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00:10 DaemonFC; "Instead of giving people a hand up, Cancel Culture makes people develop strange and radical political ideas and foments the hatred it claims to want to stop by making people get angrier and angrier about being mocked, and then tries to shove them off the Internet so that they can't talk about those. I have another post coming up soon, maybe the next post, about this problem."
00:10 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is my muse.
00:11 DaemonFC; People who see the system failing them over and over get mad.
00:12 DaemonFC; And then they want to tear it down.
00:12 DaemonFC; They don't care what replaces it anymore.
00:12 DaemonFC; All of the shit I had to crawl through in the past 20 years and now this.
00:13 DaemonFC; Biden hands these people who completely fucked themselves with student loan scams a free pass.
00:14 DaemonFC; The entire "deficit reduction" part of the "Inflation Reduction Act" was about the size of the federal loss that was just taken on so that he could give movie floor sweepers with Poli Sci degrees a bailout.
00:16 MinceR; 26 000527 < starstreak> after my iphone dies, im probably going to get something like this: https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/
00:16 TR Bot; PinePhone Pro | PINE64
00:16 MinceR; afaik it has inferior boot firmware to the plain PinePhone
00:16 MinceR; then again, even the plain PinePhone doesn't work reliably...
00:16 DaemonFC; And in return, the IRS will comb through your PayPal wallet to see if your mom handed you some money for getting her car fixed and spotting her for her Medicare premiums that year.
00:16 starstreak; i know someone who has both and the plain one isn't powerful enough
00:17 MinceR; yeah, it is weak
00:17 DaemonFC; Well, I think the "Linux" distributions it's meant to run are heavier than Android.
00:17 MinceR; it's probably too much to ask of this industry to design one good mobile phone
00:17 MinceR; pretty sure postmarketOS with sxmo isn't as heavy as android
00:17 DaemonFC; Android is meant to work well on a small system. It's not a self-hosting or general purpose OS really.
00:17 MinceR; too bad its suspend UI didn't work for me at all
00:17 MinceR; so i can't actually use it
00:18 DaemonFC; I don't think there's a way to build Android using Android.
00:18 starstreak; if i dont get a pinephone, it'll be some android with microsd and lineageos
00:18 DaemonFC; I could be wrong. I haven't seen anything about this.
00:18 starstreak; i don't want some lame vendor provided android
00:19 starstreak; samsung is spyware
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 MinceR; how free and trustworthy is lineageos? maybe i should give it a try too.
00:20 starstreak; it doesn't come with gapps
00:20 s98259; o.o
00:20 XRevan86; MinceR: One of the better Android distributions.
00:21 s98259; I'm gonna eat I think
00:21 s98259; Cause I don't eat and I need to eat :3
00:21 XRevan86; I had to put "Android" in there to draw a baseline.
00:21 starstreak; im kinda pissed that i can't put music on my iphone anymore
00:21 s98259; o.O
00:21 s98259; Weird
00:21 s98259; Damn Crapple
00:21 starstreak; apple wants everyone to buy Apple Music for $10/month
00:21 s98259; Yep, they get you sooner or later.
00:22 starstreak; im in Canada, music piracy is legal here
00:22 starstreak; im not paying $10/month
00:22 DaemonFC; You don't "buy" Apple Music.
00:22 DaemonFC; You rent it.
00:22 s98259; I was gifted an iPod in the earliest days, took assumption it would be a mass storage device like any portable MP3 player but they'd got me at that point.
00:22 s98259; I don't support that.
00:23 XRevan86; DaemonFC: The market term is of course "subscribe".
00:23 s98259; Needing a particular music player to put music on a device, it's wrong.
00:23 starstreak; i actually liked itunes for mac, but they killed it and replaced it with Apple Music
00:23 DaemonFC; I don't subscribe to that idea.
00:23 techuser; when I was gifted a first smartphone, I thought it would be a proper portable PC
00:23 starstreak; i *might* be able to use itunes in a windows VM
00:23 s98259; I like GNU/Linux :3
00:23 techuser; a few years later I realized it is planned obsolescence shit. Some time later, I realized there is no hope in future and progress.
00:24 starstreak; i like macOS but my macbook broke
00:24 s98259; And probably a terrible person to talk about OSes with. :D
00:24 s98259; At least I can be honest.
00:24 starstreak; im looking forward to helloSystem, freebsd with a mac ui
00:25 starstreak; ravynOS also seems pretty cool, they are promising a lot: such as mac app compatibility
00:25 starstreak; https://airyx.org/
00:25 TR Bot; ravynOS Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD.
00:25 XRevan86; starstreak: The screenshots reveal that it's closer to a UI mock-up than to a real GUI.
00:25 XRevan86; starstreak: Ye have better odds with vanilla GNOME even.
00:26 starstreak; XRevan86, https://airyx.org/images/firefox_global_menu.jpg
00:26 starstreak; XRevan86, right now I use Gnome with Dash to Panel
00:26 starstreak; its kinda like windows 8
00:26 s98259; Interesting.
00:27 starstreak; https://i.imgur.com/xAV5HA7.png
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00:27 s98259; XRevan86: That's like what happened with ReactOS, they mocked up the Windows UI for it rather than just porting the Windows UI.
00:27 s98259; ReactOS is eww though
00:27 s98259; It can't simply run a like of exe file.
00:28 starstreak; Want something that looks like ReactOS/Classic Windows, try icewm
00:28 s98259; *files
00:28 s98259; Probably why they mocked up the UI.
00:28 starstreak; icewm is kinda cool
00:28 s98259; Nah
00:28 s98259; I'm happy with i3wm
00:28 starstreak; sway
00:28 starstreak; i like wayland
00:28 s98259; wayland depends on systemd :/
00:29 starstreak; i like systemd
00:29 s98259; AH
00:29 starstreak; i have 16gb ram, im not trying to squeeze everything into a size under 128mb
00:29 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/25/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-is-a-moral-hazard-and-election-year-vote-buying-its-extremely-unfair-to-people-who-planned-as-if-theyd-have-to-pay-it-all-back-and-did-something-responsible/
00:29 TR Bot; Bidens student loan forgiveness is a moral hazard and election year vote-buying. Its extremely unfair to people who planned as-if theyd have to pay it all back and did something responsible. | BaronHK's Rants
00:30 starstreak; theres better ways to reduce ram usage
00:30 starstreak; discord uses like 400mb so i could use pidgin instead, i lose scrollback though
00:30 XRevan86; s98259: There are reports on people who use Wayland without systemd.
00:30 starstreak; pidgin with the discord plugin is 50mb ram
00:30 XRevan86; But I can see how systemd can make things easier for Wayland.
00:30 forkbombe; XRevan86: If wayland is indeed the 'future', one can only hope.
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00:31 starstreak; my gnome-shell is using 189MB ram, again i got 16gb so i dont consider that an issue
00:31 starstreak; im sure icewm uses a lot less
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00:32 s98259; XRevan86: Ah
00:32 starstreak; keybase also uses quite a bit of ram but its too useful, 100GB free e2e storage
00:32 s98259; Anyway, firing up a VM. :3
00:33 s98259; I want to try ravynOS
00:33 starstreak; i couldn't get ravynOS to boot on gnome boxes (qemu)
00:33 starstreak; maybe using the real qemu might help it boot
00:36 starstreak; https://i.imgur.com/QxXjFww.png
00:36 s98259; I'm running it on my hypervisor.
00:37 s98259; Most likely will support virtual hardware.
00:37 starstreak; what hypervisor?
00:37 s98259; VM = Go-to option for developers
00:37 starstreak; gnome boxes uses qemu as a hypervisor
00:37 s98259; It's a server system that serves VMs so the process is daemonised.
00:37 s98259; Yeah
00:38 s98259; qemu KVM is what I use
00:38 s98259; with libvirt
00:38 starstreak; im a noob, i had to use archinstall to get my arch linux installed
00:38 starstreak; because it did full disk crypto
00:38 s98259; Never heard of archinstall
00:38 starstreak; its a TUI installer
00:38 s98259; Ah
00:39 starstreak; i was able to install gentoo years ago, back in 2004
00:39 starstreak; i didnt do full disk crypto though
00:39 s98259; libvirt is nice if you ever want to host virtual servers.
00:39 DaemonFC; Pidgin probably isn't as popular as it used to be.
00:39 s98259; DaemonFC: It isn't.
00:39 DaemonFC; I think most distributions used to have it in the default installation for desktops.
00:39 s98259; Plus there are better IM clients.
00:40 starstreak; i like pidgin
00:40 s98259; DaemonFC: They did
00:40 s98259; Well depends on distribution but yeah most did.
00:40 starstreak; is kopete still a thing?
00:40 s98259; Fuck, I forgot all about that!
00:40 s98259; lol
00:40 s98259; :D
00:40 souseksi; I like pidgin too.
00:41 starstreak; pidgin has a very nice discord plugin, it supports a lot of the features but it doesn't have scrollback :(
00:42 starstreak; you also can't click reply on specific people either
00:42 starstreak; it does support images though
00:42 starstreak; yay memes
00:44 s98259; VM booting
00:46 starstreak; :3
00:49 DaemonFC; mjg59_, SWATTING from Kiwi Farms is bad.
00:49 DaemonFC; Also mjg59_ when I got SWATTED by an illegal immigrant and my cheating ex..... SWATTING GOOD!
00:51 DaemonFC; I don't think that mjg59_ can prove that Kiwi Farms has engaged in SWATTING.
00:51 s98259; starstreak: So what's the login to this?
00:51 DaemonFC; SWATTING is a federal crime (as of 2015) on top of a state crime in every state.
00:51 s98259; It booted, got CLI login prompt.
00:51 DaemonFC; So why are the folks on Kiwi Farms still there if they're SWATTING people?
00:52 s98259; So web search, can't find how to login.
00:52 starstreak; liveuser
00:53 starstreak; https://airyx.org/releases.html
00:53 TR Bot; ravynOS Releases
00:53 s98259; Thanks! :D
00:53 starstreak; "The login is liveuser with no password."
00:53 DaemonFC; It wouldn't make very much sense for anyone to be running a clear Web site in their REAL NAME complete with a donation bin that goes to a real address in Florida if they plan to allow all sorts of illegal shit to go on at that site.
00:54 DaemonFC; The reason why the harassment against Kiwi Farms that mjg59_ seems to want to add himself to has been limited to things like Visa and Mastercard blockades and Web hosting problems, is because nothing there has risen to a level of criminal conduct where the police have raided it.
00:55 DaemonFC; They're not hidden. If the state or Feds wanted to they could move in. So the fact that they haven't shows that this is the sort of harassment campaign that can happen to a porn site.
00:55 DaemonFC; You might get a payment card blockade.
00:55 DaemonFC; Brave hasn't cut Kiwi Farms off. You can donate BAT to them. They're a Brave Verified Publisher.
00:56 DaemonFC; They also have various crypto wallet addresses and take checks and money orders to Joshua Moon's address in Florida.
00:57 DaemonFC; That being said, if someone wants to donate money to them, it would probably be best if they didn't do it in a way that traces into a payment system, including their personal checking account.
00:57 DaemonFC; The Matthew J. GULAGs tried to destroy Brendan Eich for making a donation to a PAC.
00:58 DaemonFC; Instead, Brave is growing and Firefox is going to fall off the stat counters like Netscape did in a few years.
00:58 s98259; YaY found the ravnOS wiki! :3
00:59 DaemonFC; An adult would just say we had a political discussion as a nation, Eich's position lost, and that $1,000 didn't really accomplish anything.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 107.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.11
00:59 DaemonFC; This just shows you how much of a sore winner liberals can be.
00:59 s98259; https://wiki.ravynos.com/wiki/SystemLayout
01:00 TR Bot; SystemLayout - ravynOS
01:02 starstreak; I actually loved macOS so I'm thrilled about a free software clone of it
01:03 s98259; starstreak: Whenever I use BSD, it's NetBSD so this is going to be a learning thing but I know little about MacOS, I just know Apple are shady.
01:03 starstreak; Apple is shady
01:04 starstreak; I just like macOS a lot
01:04 starstreak; I used macOS from 2013 to 2020
01:04 starstreak; 2020 to 2022 - Fedora
01:04 starstreak; 2022 - current - arch btw
01:05 souseksi; I started to use GNU/Linux in 2020 too.
01:05 starstreak; before my mac, i had used linux from 2002-2011, windows 7/8 2011-2013
01:05 s98259; starstreak: So... how so I run a .app file? I tried just running it but got "Permission denied".
01:06 s98259; Linux <3
01:06 starstreak; my linux use from 2002-2011 was dual boot
01:07 starstreak; I ran Gentoo, SuSE, Ubuntu, Fedora
01:07 s98259; I know someone who goes by "Raiku" who uses Haiku as their daily driver. :D
01:07 souseksi; In 2002, I was not born yet.
01:07 starstreak; my first computer was in 1995, it ran MS-DOS 6.22 which I used till 1997
01:08 DaemonFC; The Poli Sci major who works for DoorDash has a Domestic Violence warrant out for him in Illinois for attacking me.
01:08 DaemonFC; And Biden is about to forgive his entire student loan debt.
01:08 s98259; Fuck, time flies! I remember when you would've been a baby souseksi well not you personally but people in 2002. :D
01:08 s98259; I'm 28
01:08 s98259; souseksi: ^
01:08 starstreak; souseksi, lol i ran gentoo when u were in diapers
01:08 DaemonFC; I'm 38.
01:08 DaemonFC; I have an 18 year old cousin I've never met that I keep hearing about.
01:08 starstreak; i got tired of compiling everything
01:09 starstreak; i wanted something for noobs so i could do less work
01:09 souseksi; s98259: Taken into consideration.
01:09 s98259; :)
01:09 s98259; 2002, good year.
01:09 DaemonFC; Her dad managed to have a child finally, late in life.
01:09 DaemonFC; 20 years or so after his siblings did.
01:09 starstreak; 2002 - Windows XP
01:09 s98259; But that could just be my age, thinking previous times were better. :D
01:10 starstreak; I liked Windows 2000 more than Windows XP, it used less ram
01:10 DaemonFC; Trust me, everything was better.
01:10 DaemonFC; It's been burning out for my entire life.
01:10 DaemonFC; Every year gets worse.
01:10 souseksi; DaemonFC: Taken into consideration.
01:11 DaemonFC; I remember listening to the radio in 2002. They were talking about a recession.
01:11 starstreak; this is an old linux screenshot of mine from 2004: https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/34a30730-374f-4a33-92d4-605dfde9769f/d41y6w-d50790fb-d358-4d41-a6bf-d54996c18249.png/v1/fill/w_1000,h_800,q_70,strp/ulb_gnome_by_achilles_2002_d41y6w-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9
01:11 starstreak; iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTAyNCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzM0YTMwNzMwLTM3NGYtNGEzMy05MmQ0LTYwNWRmZGU5NzY5ZlwvZDQxeTZ3LWQ1MDc5MGZiLWQzNTgtNGQ0MS1hNmJmLWQ1NDk5NmMxODI0OS5wbmciLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTI4MCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl19.dnPDu_ow98pfsWvO3edtw2ryPzjjW1ja5dD7_n7Z_ao
01:11 TR Bot; ( status 401 @ https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/34a30730-374f-4a33-92d4-605dfde9769f/d41y6w-d50790fb-d358-4d41-a6bf-d54996c18249.png/v1/fill/w_1000,h_800,q_70,strp/ulb_gnome_by_achilles_2002_d41y6w-pre.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9 )
01:11 starstreak; hmm sorry
01:11 DaemonFC; I was like "Recession? LOL! Everyone I know is fine!".
01:11 s98259; I don't want any windows, starstreak
01:11 starstreak; https://i.imgur.com/ztb0qHs.jpg
01:11 s98259; So how do I launch these app files?
01:11 starstreak; s98259, i dont know :(
01:11 DaemonFC; Now they're trying to steal my mom's pension.
01:11 s98259; I remember that wallpaper!
01:11 s98259; Oh the days! :D
01:12 starstreak; ULB Gnome
01:12 DaemonFC; Biden's cracking down for taxes on people with no money.
01:12 s98259; And the one of him on the toilet reading a newspaper! :D
01:12 DaemonFC; To bail out idiots who shouldn't have taken on student loans.
01:12 starstreak; I had friends on MSN/ICQ/AIM
01:12 starstreak; ULB Gnome was for SUSE, it was ximian product
01:12 starstreak; before ximian was trash
01:13 s98259; http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OBMSfLBdjRI/Ur2tA-ixGMI/AAAAAAAAARY/Khfo8aAXl0M/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/toilet.JPG
01:13 s98259; There you go
01:13 s98259; tuxie on the toilet :D
01:13 souseksi; s98259: funny.
01:13 s98259; :D
01:14 s98259; Yeah this is like VERY old graphics work! :D
01:14 s98259; VERY old
01:14 starstreak; :3
01:14 s98259; hence why the image is soo tiny, it's probably had data loss over the years and stuff like that.
01:15 starstreak; Ok ppl, which one sucked less: ICQ, MSN or AIM?
01:16 s98259; This one is an old one too :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux_%28mascot%29#/media/File:Crystal_128_penguin.png
01:16 TR Bot; Tux (mascot) - Wikipedia
01:16 souseksi; s98259: Thank you for sharing interesting pictures.
01:17 s98259; :D
01:17 s98259; I used this one when printing my own stickers, I'll see if I can find an image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux_%28mascot%29#/media/File:Tux_Mono.svg
01:17 TR Bot; Tux (mascot) - Wikipedia
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 s98259; souseksi, starstreak, Found the image! :D https://i.imgur.com/4tAMur1.jpg
01:20 s98259; Oh looks like I didn't have it flat... but coloured... hmm
01:21 s98259; They seem to like...
01:21 s98259; They're in the background these days, forget they're even there half the time! :D
01:21 souseksi; s98259: thank you for sharing.
01:21 s98259; :D
01:25 s98259; That Russian media scaring up their own people. :(
01:27 starstreak; s98259, thats your first computer?
01:27 souseksi; s98259: are you from Russia?
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01:34 s98259; souseksi: Nah
01:34 s98259; starstreak: Nah
01:34 s98259; 1min
01:34 s98259; starstreak: This is my first computer. :3 https://i.imgur.com/Nt47QcZ.png
01:34 souseksi; s98259: Thank you for answer.
01:35 s98259; souseksi: Why did you ask? :3
01:35 starstreak; s98259, oh yeah sorry
01:35 souseksi; Because I was curious.
01:35 s98259; souseksi: Ah :)
01:41 s98259; I'm drinking beer :3
01:42 s98259; I had a can last night
01:42 starstreak; yay! i found an old backup of my photos
01:42 souseksi; I wish you a nice drink.
01:42 s98259; I prefer neat spirit.
01:42 starstreak; and... i still have my old gpg file
01:42 s98259; Nice :D
01:46 s98259; souseksi: Did I ever show you some of my music?
01:47 souseksi; s98259: no. Please show me.
01:47 s98259; This is one of my latest releases: https://soundcloud.com/helenab-6/helena-bolan-moonscapes-original
01:47 TR Bot; Helena Bolan - Moonscapes (Original) by Helenah | Listen online for free on SoundCloud
01:48 s98259; But this goes with it :D https://soundcloud.com/helenab-6/helena-bolan-starscapes-original
01:48 TR Bot; Helena Bolan - Starscapes (Original) by Helenah | Listen online for free on SoundCloud
01:48 DaemonFC; I think the MATE desktop people are great. GNOME tried to FUD them buy going "You can't do it. You won't do it. People tried to fork GNOME 1 too and that didn't happen.".
01:49 DaemonFC; *by
01:49 DaemonFC; I'm not seeing any reason why MATE can't get ported to GTK 4 at some point.
01:49 DaemonFC; So it'll probably be around as long as anyone wants to maintain it.
01:50 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is on his Shitter bashing forks again.
01:50 starstreak; s98259, are you on github?
01:50 DaemonFC; There's nothing wrong with forks.
01:50 s98259; No
01:50 souseksi; I like TDE.
01:50 s98259; Damn I'm stoned
01:51 starstreak; speaking of netbsd, i had a dream last night that i was running netbsd on a threadripper laptop
01:51 starstreak; with 32gb ram
01:52 mjg59_; I was literally doing the opposite of complaining about forks?
01:54 souseksi; s98259: I started downloading music from Soundcloud, but I have weak Internet connection, so it will take some time before I can listen to it.
01:54 souseksi; s98259: Thank you for sharing.
01:55 s98259; :D
01:55 s98259; No problem
01:56 s98259; souseksi: I can give you a nice direct download link if you'd like.
01:57 souseksi; s98259: Ok.
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.56
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02:01 s98259; souseksi: This one is Moonscapes https://files.catbox.moe/bxdc18.ogg
02:01 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/bxdc18.ogg )
02:03 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/300421282_1199673860877246_8023870766865871163_n.png?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=569QGBT_nJ0AX95OCOG&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT-g1nNGnK8Cq069R5Yk9e6WlalIw9ciEQ6QD9LWQlDyKA&oe=630D167C
02:04 DaemonFC; Inflation's bad!
02:04 DaemonFC; "How bad is it?"
02:04 DaemonFC; Biden's inflation's so bad that I saw Dominoes financing pizzas.
02:04 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I was literally doing the opposite of complaining about forks?
02:05 DaemonFC; So, can you tell me what Kiwi Farms has actually done if nobody's been arrested and they're using their real names and addresses?
02:05 souseksi; s98259: Thank you for providing links. "Moonscapes" is beautiful track.
02:05 DaemonFC; Also, do you think it was bad that I got SWATTED and the police made it even worse when they got there by believing the people who did it?
02:06 s98259; No problem. :)
02:06 s98259; Thank you :D
02:06 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Do you think it's also a problem that I'll have to apologize in court after being the victim of a SWATTING attack, and will not be allowed to say that I got SWATTED?
02:07 DaemonFC; To have any hope of putting this mess behind me.
02:07 DaemonFC; Do you think it's bad that I was nearly killed and financially ruined after being the victim of said SWATTING attack?
02:07 mjg59_; DaemonFC: https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7bzaz/twitch-streamer-keffals-arrested-after-transphobic-swating
02:07 TR Bot; Twitch Streamer Keffals Arrested After Transphobic SWATing
02:08 s98259; souseksi: And this one is Starscapes, it goes with it https://files.catbox.moe/tq2cbz.ogg
02:08 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/tq2cbz.ogg )
02:08 DaemonFC; As far as I can tell from lurking there, Keffals (whoever that is), is not universally liked.
02:08 DaemonFC; Far from it.
02:08 *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights
02:08 DaemonFC; Of course, I've read it with JavaShit turned off, in Tor Browser, on top of my VPN.
02:08 souseksi; s98259: You made this music with your computer? Can I ask what software did you use for this purpose? I liked "Starscapes" too.
02:09 DaemonFC; Because I don't want anything about me logged if the government raids them and wants to know who was reading their forum.
02:09 s98259; souseksi: LMMS
02:09 s98259; Linux MultiMedia Studio
02:09 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Reading it does not mean that I agree with them.
02:10 DaemonFC; Of course, I browse around like this a lot because I don't want GULAG, the government, or the sites I read, to know about everything I read.
02:10 s98259; Dude...
02:10 DaemonFC; Reading isn't a crime, yet.
02:10 s98259; Are you always this irritating?
02:10 mjg59_; Cool story
02:10 mjg59_; s98259: Yes
02:10 souseksi; s98259: How long ago you started composing electronic music? Sorry if I am asking too many questions, if it offens you.
02:11 DaemonFC; I don't think the US government is that much better than Russia.
02:11 DaemonFC; I think it does better PR.
02:11 s98259; Imagine if you've got a load of ants crawling all over you, DaemonFC is like that
02:12 DaemonFC; Biden seems to be more fiscally reckless than Putin or Xi. He has this "It's only debt money!" attitude. Worst of any president we've ever had.
02:12 DaemonFC; Neither China nor Russia even are stupid enough to just hyperinflate their currency for precisely no reason at all.
02:13 DaemonFC; Or take on horrific debt that couldn't be paid back even with the output of their entire economy for years.
02:13 s98259; And in what way will he pay that, that'll make it "only debt money" because I'm pretty sure it'll come out of the pockets of Americans.
02:13 DaemonFC; Yeah, that's a big problem.
02:13 DaemonFC; mjg59_ can just take his citizenship to the returns department when the bill for all of Biden's fuck-ups arrives.
02:14 s98259; And you'll be paying it back bit by bit still many presidencies into the future
02:14 DaemonFC; Yeah, the government never actually pays its debt off.
02:14 DaemonFC; The last bonds issued relating to WW II were "paid" in like 1995 or something, but to get the money it just issues more debt.
02:14 DaemonFC; And that comes out in a lot of ways, like inflation.
02:15 s98259; Here they do it too, they'll do something costly so it's secured, paid for and then they up taxes so the citizens are then paying off the debt. It's annoying.
02:15 DaemonFC; Politicians in America have had this clever thing they like to do.
02:15 DaemonFC; They're always "cutting taxes" and then finding some other way to stick it to you.
02:15 DaemonFC; Like inflation.
02:16 DaemonFC; But that's run its course because inflation is so bad now that everyone is pissed.
02:16 s98259; That's messing around with peoples finances twice each time you do it...
02:16 s98259; Wow that's terrible
02:16 DaemonFC; But they don't want to raise taxes, so they bring in a bunch of IRS agents to chase down the Walmart janitor for his dog walking money from PayPal.
02:16 DaemonFC; They won't dare go after mjg59_ and say "Hey look, buddy.".
02:16 DaemonFC; They'll go after people making $20,000 a year.
02:16 s98259; Infact...
02:17 s98259; I know...
02:17 s98259; So you will ramble political monologues all day everyday in here I've noticed
02:17 s98259; What is the motive behind this?
02:17 s98259; Am I supposed to believe you?
02:17 DaemonFC; I don't know. I've considered a podcast.
02:17 s98259; Serious question.
02:18 mjg59_; And when challenged on anything he'll just start talking about something else
02:18 DaemonFC; I don't really know who you are. Everyone is changing their username lately.
02:18 s98259; Yeah but why would I listen to your podcast and not somebody elses? What would be "special" about your podcast that isn't "special" about someone elses?
02:19 DaemonFC; I feel someone should start back up where Jerry Doyle left off.
02:19 s98259; DaemonFC: Dude, STOP the question dodging bullshit!
02:19 s98259; NOW!
02:19 DaemonFC; I think he ran for Senate in California. Big mistake. Too decent of a guy to win in the land of nuts and flakes.
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 DaemonFC; <s98259> Yeah but why would I listen to your podcast and not somebody elses? What would be "special" about your podcast that isn't "special" about someone elses?
02:20 DaemonFC; I'm not sure, but people do them anyway.
02:20 DaemonFC; mjg59_ seems to be genuinely annoyed about press freedom and op-eds.
02:21 DaemonFC; Except the ones that parrot his nonsense.
02:21 s98259; Yes but I could start manufacturing t-shirts, doesn't mean people will buy from me or have me has a favourite t-shirt supplier.
02:21 s98259; That could pay the bills might not.
02:21 DaemonFC; I don't know if they have those things in Ireland. Probably not.
02:21 DaemonFC; Europe is horrible.
02:22 DaemonFC; In the UK, they make it impossible to talk about anything as a member of the press because someone else will run you into the ground if you do.
02:22 s98259; I just feel like your political ramblings are motivated and due to that you need to output them to a group of people.
02:22 DaemonFC; And there's people that want to make the US more like this.
02:22 starstreak; oh yay i got my macbook to work
02:22 DaemonFC; You can't even call something in the UK a political scandal without being sued. They have a euphemism for it.
02:23 DaemonFC; I forgot what it was.
02:23 s98259; DaemonFC: Dude, answer the question yo...
02:23 DaemonFC; They have no scandals in the UK. It's a miracle.
02:24 s98259; So yeah, please answer the question...
02:39 DaemonFC; "Chicago Public Health Commissioner Allison Arwady announced she has tested positive for Covid."
02:39 DaemonFC; :)
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250822.txt
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, August 25, 2022
02:43 s98259; I see, more question dodging...
02:43 s98259; lol
02:43 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
02:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
02:43 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-250822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-250822.txt
02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, August 25, 2022
02:44 TR News; (NEW): Why You Should Use Administrative Interfaces to Manage Linux Servers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Why_You_Should_Use_Administrative_Interfaces_to_Manage_Linux_Se.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Why_You_Should_Use_Administrative_Interfaces_to_Manage_Linux_Se.gmi
02:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Why You Should Use Administrative Interfaces to Manage Linux Servers"
02:44 TR News; (NEW): Trying TypeScript for GNOME Apps" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Trying_TypeScript_for_GNOME_Apps.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Trying_TypeScript_for_GNOME_Apps.gmi
02:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Trying TypeScript for GNOME Apps"
02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:47 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D334.jpg
02:47 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D684.jpg
02:48 TR News; On the Frustrations of Android gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202208/20220825-on-the-frustrations-of-android.gmi
02:49 TR News; Using Asterisks as Bullet Points in Vim gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-08-24-asterisk-bullet-points.gmi
02:50 TR News; Local Reading Tracker gemini://nafmusings.smol.pub/local-reading-tracker
02:55 TR News; This Encrypted Email Provider Keeps Getting Banned - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JimR-esQYt4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/JimR-esQYt4
02:55 TR Bot; This Encrypted Email Provider Keeps Getting Banned - Invidious
02:56 s98259; :/
02:56 souseksi; s98259: Is anything wrong?
02:56 s98259; Nah
02:56 TR News; A rant about writing "systems" - Writing things. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ioE4YRpJirc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ioE4YRpJirc
02:56 TR Bot; A rant about writing "systems" - Writing things. - Invidious
02:57 TR News; Going Linux #429 Using Open Source Software to get a new job https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp429
02:57 TR Bot; Going Linux Shownotes
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 75.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.68
02:59 TR News; When even bulb arrays turn into spying outposts https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/amazon-echo-dot-philips-hue-white-bulbs/
02:59 TR Bot; Save $75 on an Amazon Echo Dot with Philips Hue Bulbs - Make Tech Easier
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 219949 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42288 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 3 weeks 0 days ago
03:02 TR News; "CISA has added ten new vulnerabilities to itsKnown Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog, based on evidence of active exploitation. These types of vulnerabilities are a frequent attack vector for malicious cyber actors and pose significant risk to the federal enterprise." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/25/cisa-adds-ten-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
03:02 TR Bot; CISA Adds Ten Known Exploited Vulnerabilitiesto Catalog | CISA
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 6.8 GB TotalOut: 2.2 GB
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:06 s98259; souseksi: Lady Morphine: https://files.catbox.moe/ee0n9v.ogg
03:06 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/ee0n9v.ogg )
03:06 s98259; Ambient
03:09 souseksi; s98259: Thank you. I am going to listen to all songs in your SoundCloud profile when I will have better Internet connection. By now I have listened to "My House Is Your House" and I liked this track.
03:09 souseksi; I am going to bed now. Bye
03:09 s98259; Nini :3
03:10 schestowitz[TR]; 0/
03:11 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: You might light it, the lady morphine link above.
03:11 s98259; *like
03:12 TR News; LF now promoting diploma mills with entities more controversial than LF itself https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/free-quantum-computing-training-course-launched-by-the-linux-foundation-and-world-bank-301612281.html
03:12 TR Bot; Free Quantum Computing Training Course Launched by the Linux Foundation and World Bank
03:16 TR News; Public Knowledge Applauds FCC for Investigating Mobile Carrier Data Practices - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-fcc-for-investigating-mobile-carrier-data-practices/ Source: Public Knowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-applauds-fcc-for-investigating-mobile-carrier-data-practices/
03:16 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Applauds FCC for Investigating Mobile Carrier Data Practices - Public Knowledge
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 TR News; (UPDATED): Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.gmi
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03:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
03:20 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: Going Linux and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Shows_and_Videos_Going_Linux_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Shows_and_Videos_Going_Linux_and_More.gmi
03:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Going Linux and More"
03:20 TR News; (NEW): pgAdmin 4 v6.13 Released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/pgAdmin_4_v6_13_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/pgAdmin_4_v6_13_Released.gmi
03:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines pgAdmin 4 v6.13 Released
03:27 TR News; (NEW): One dead Purism laptop https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/One_dead_Purism_laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/One_dead_Purism_laptop.gmi
03:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines One dead Purism laptop
03:27 *starstreak_macos (~Adium@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
03:27 TR News; Trimming the cruft gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1661449234
03:28 TR News; "It's nearly reached a bank holiday weekend here in the UK, which means we get an extra day off (woop!) I really need it at the moment, quite honestly. Work has not been easy to cope with the last few months. I desperately need a change." gemini://themby.smol.pub/2022-08-25
03:28 starstreak_macos; Hello
03:28 TR News; "nothing's gonna change my world" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1111
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; 0/
03:29 starstreak_macos; :O
03:29 TR News; "I recently made a work presentation in Hypercard as well. I think this is going to be my go-to presentation tool! I love how something from the mid-90s can still be used today." gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-6-meetups-filipino-hypercard
03:30 starstreak_macos; I took Mincer's advice and fixed my macbook (sort of)
03:30 starstreak_macos; I need to use an external monitor
03:30 s98259; :3
03:30 TR News; "Like many people, I got pretty unfit during COVID, but I got back on the fitness grind summer of last year. However, I was solely weightlifting, and I was silly enough to listen to youtube influencers telling me to avoid cardio at all costs lest I "kill my gainz"." gemini://nomadpengu.in/thoughts/runningnotes/
03:32 TR News; Lutris 0.5.11 release but not a word in their Web site, the announcement got outsourced to Microsoft's proprietary prison (bad optics) https://forums.lutris.net/
03:32 TR Bot; Lutris Forums
03:34 TR News; SUSE is propping up its own worthless diploma mills too, as if some digital something will help you get a job https://www.suse.com/c/3-reasons-why-authorized-training-matters/
03:34 TR Bot; Reasons Why Authorized Training Matters | SUSE Communities
03:35 TR News; And SUSE also promotes SAP's proprietary software https://www.suse.com/c/navigate-your-sap-journey-with-dell-technologies-and-suse/
03:35 TR Bot; your SAP Journey with Dell Technologies and SUSE | SUSE Communities
03:36 TR News; "Webinar" as fancy word for marketing spam https://www.suse.com/c/hpe-and-suse-at-the-edge/
03:36 TR Bot; and SUSE at the Edge | SUSE Communities
03:36 TR News; "Interested to know what has improved using the Librem 5 phone?" https://puri.sm/posts/swipeable-upgrade-to-the-librem-5-interface/
03:36 TR Bot; Swipeable Upgrade to the Librem 5 Interface Purism
03:39 TR News; (NEW): Top 10 Best Linux Distros for Privacy and Security https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distros_for_Privacy_and_Security.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distros_for_Privacy_and_Security.gmi
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03:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Top 10 Best Linux Distros for Privacy and Security
03:39 *starstreak_macos is updating from macOS Catalina to macOS Big Sur
03:41 TR News; GitOps Guide to the Galaxy (E43) | Codefresh hosted GitOps on OpenShift - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=d8CC_3pahp0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/d8CC_3pahp0
03:41 TR Bot; GitOps Guide to the Galaxy (E43) | Codefresh hosted GitOps on OpenShift - Invidious
03:41 starstreak_macos; https://i.imgur.com/SCyZD5b.png
03:42 TR News; </p></blockquote></li>
03:42 TR News; In the Clowns (S2E13) | How data science can improve business - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4YPOChJo1v4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/4YPOChJo1v4
03:42 TR Bot; In the Clouds (S2E13) | How data science can improve business - Invidious
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03:48 DaemonFC; https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/teens-gen-z-misinformation-social-media/
03:48 TR Bot; A little less misinformation, a little more action
03:48 TR News; OpenFHE: Open-Source Fully Homomorphic Encryption - Help Net Security https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/08/19/openfhe-open-source-fully-homomorphic-encryption-video/ Source: Help Net Security | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/08/19/openfhe-open-source-fully-homomorphic-encryption-video/
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03:48 TR Bot; OpenFHE: Open-Source Fully Homomorphic Encryption - Help Net Security
03:48 DaemonFC; More bullshit from Mozilla.
03:48 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
03:48 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Mozilla as wannabe censorship company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/teens-gen-z-misinformation-social-media/
03:48 DaemonFC; Misinformation is anything Democrats don't like. Also, Mozilla praises a platform from China for "fighting misinformation" with "algorithms".
03:49 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Mozilla Firefox should be a Web browser, not information police
03:50 TR News; I filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying what I owed. Not I complain about people who won't pay back some of their debt. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/25/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-is-a-moral-hazard-and-election-year-vote-buying-its-extremely-unfair-to-people-who-planned-as-if-theyd-have-to-pay-it-all-back-and-did-something-responsible/
03:50 TR Bot; Bidens student loan forgiveness is a moral hazard and election year vote-buying. Its extremely unfair to people who planned as-if theyd have to pay it all back and did something responsible. | BaronHK's Rants
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; *Now I
03:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The bankruptcy code is a law.
03:52 DaemonFC; Please show me the law that Biden used.
03:52 DaemonFC; In fact, bankruptcy law says student loans cannot be discharged.
03:52 DaemonFC; They have a high risk of default and they know it, and they only give them out because they knew you couldn't ever get rid of them.
03:53 DaemonFC; Also, what I owed mostly was to hospitals who have fake prices, and government court assessments that were designed to rob me, and were summarily dismissed by the bankruptcy code.
03:55 DaemonFC; One court is making up debts and the other court is getting rid of them.
03:55 DaemonFC; KIA didn't lose anything.
03:56 DaemonFC; John has to pay for it, which is fair considering he's driving it.
03:56 DaemonFC; Totally the same as some dumbshit taking on a student loan.
03:57 DaemonFC; The government ruined me to the point where I haven't paid Income Tax since they did it.
03:57 TR News; "A new bug fix release 0.1.2 of RApiSerialize got onto CRAN earlier. It follows on the 0.1.1 release from earlier this month, and addresses a minor build issue where an error message, only in the case of missing long vector support, tried to use an i18n macro that is not supplied by the build." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/08/25#rapiserialize_0.1.2
03:57 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
03:57 DaemonFC; In fact, they knocked me into such a low bracket that they pay me now, which is fine really.
03:57 DaemonFC; They actually do owe me reparations unlike some people complaining about 200 years ago and what happened to someone else.'
03:57 TR News; Strange way to reply to people https://bkhome.org/news/202208/reply-to-steve.html
03:57 TR Bot; Reply to steve
03:58 DaemonFC; Not that the fact that they hurt themselves when they attack me probably ever registered.
03:59 DaemonFC; Dumb fucking government ran by dumb fucking people.
03:59 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.gmi
03:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 117.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.98
03:59 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Dumb fucking government ran by dumb fucking people.
03:59 schestowitz[TR]; you said if you ran the country you'd nuke it
04:00 DaemonFC; Only the cancer.
04:00 DaemonFC; And it was a joke, you know.
04:00 DaemonFC; The only way to fix Chicago is by tossing a nuke in.
04:00 DaemonFC; It's so broken by stupid Democrats and criminals there's no hope for it.
04:01 DaemonFC; About the only thing they could do is hope to get the land back after firebombing the place.
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04:06 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: He said that and then he goes and slates the Government? LOL!!!
04:06 schestowitz[TR]; ^_^
04:07 s98259; DaemonFC: You do realise democracy doesn't have to be bad, right?
04:07 DaemonFC; No goverment, no problems.
04:07 DaemonFC; *government
04:08 s98259; So you think a world with no governments, no laws would be good? Then we're back to outright barbarian ways and I'm talking BARBARIAN!
04:08 s98259; It's a double edged sword dude...
04:08 DaemonFC; Yeah, then I shoot the fucker who wants to do bad things, and no police come punish me for it.
04:09 DaemonFC; And so eventually the world sorts itself out.
04:09 DaemonFC; No IRS.
04:09 s98259; Yeah but you could be shooting each time you want revenge which actually is very bad and unjustified.
04:09 schestowitz[TR]; you would be shot for being gay
04:09 s98259; And there would be nobody to stop you
04:09 DaemonFC; The only people who like the IRS are getting paid for popping out babies we don't need.
04:09 schestowitz[TR]; and "so"
04:09 s98259; meaning you're in barbarian times
04:10 schestowitz[TR]; "so eventually the world sorts itself out."
04:10 s98259; Be careful what you wish for.
04:10 DaemonFC; The IRS is a giant welfare program thanks to Nixon and Reagan.
04:11 s98259; DaemonFC: The problem is Governmental Mismanagement and politicians standing for the wrong thing and so the public's confidence in Government reduces and you end up for people becoming anti-Government.
04:11 DaemonFC; And so the only reason it has any approval at all are those people having kids they can't afford to feed and getting back $8,000 tax checks when they didn't pay anything to begin with.
04:11 DaemonFC; Like Gonad's daughter.
04:11 DaemonFC; And she'd have kept going if he didn't take her down to be sterilized when she turned 21.
04:12 DaemonFC; It pays undesirables to have kids.
04:12 s98259; It happened here in the UK, nobody has confidence in any of the parties.
04:12 DaemonFC; What could possibly go wrong?
04:16 s98259; DaemonFC: Go wrong with what?
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> It pays undesirables to have kids.
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; some people reggard you as an undesirablle
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; who are you to judge who gives birth and who does not?
04:18 schestowitz[TR]; that's eugenics
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, your double standards are palpable
04:19 s98259; DaFuQ
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; complaining about people who govern you while wanting to nuke blacks
04:20 *s98259 checks what channel she's in
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04:20 schestowitz[TR]; calling them criminals while you yourself have a criminalk record
04:20 s98259; Oh dear
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; making fun of poor people when you are poor yourself
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; that makes nosennnnse to me
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; it makes no sense to you either, but you are in deep denial
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; and need to reassess
04:20 s98259; Agreed
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, it all started with his blog post
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; moaning about people who are given very very small debt relief
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; after the ripoff that's US colleges
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; costing 50-100 THOUSAND dollars a year
04:21 schestowitz[TR]; and who struggle to pay back, over decades, for a degreee that barely helps them find a job
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; after you yourself filed bankruptcy to avoid paying over 100k dollars in debt
04:22 schestowitz[TR]; for things like car and such
04:22 s98259; He's a complete hypocrit...
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; I told him that ages ago
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; just to enlighten him
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; and he had no good comeback
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; also makes fun of welfare moms and such
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; people who don't work
04:23 schestowitz[TR]; when he himself does not work
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; back to tech now
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; biden's debt/loan thing is a joke
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; it's so small
04:24 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, it's like up to 10k or somethiong
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; the people he offfers this too drown in debt like $100-200k
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; it's just to pretend he "helps" them
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; after years of campaignings
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; and he got their votes
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; mid-term elections coming up
04:25 schestowitz[TR]; so he needed to show... something
04:25 s98259; DaemonFC: That's rotten, how can you have money give to you by the Government yourself yet go and criticise others who have the same thing?
04:26 schestowitz[TR]; weeks ago said there was an announcement in the making
04:26 s98259; Is it one rule for you and another rule for another?
04:26 schestowitz[TR]; now progressiveas re like, this... is IT??
04:26 s98259; Are you to get everything given to you, a foot massage and a bum wipe and nobody else is?
04:26 s98259; Jesus man, what's wrong with you?
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04:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's like the cop who arrests the black man in the mercedes
04:27 schestowitz[TR]; because it's wrong to drive a good car while black
04:27 schestowitz[TR]; "it's OK for me, nor for you"
04:27 s98259; Pfft
04:27 schestowitz[TR]; *not
04:28 TR News; ESP32 Looks Good In Red - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5190 Source: SparkFun Electronics | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sparkfun.com/news/5190
04:28 TR Bot; Looks Good In Red - News - SparkFun Electronics
04:28 TR News; Cracking, not hacking. Don't get the basics wrong. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/what-is-sniffing-attack-in-system-hacking/
04:28 TR Bot; What is Sniffing Attack in System Hacking? - GeeksforGeeks
04:29 DaemonFC; <s98259> DaemonFC: That's rotten, how can you have money give to you by the Government yourself yet go and criticise others who have the same thing?
04:29 DaemonFC; It's their laws that forced a situation where they have to hand me the money instead of making me pay taxes.
04:30 DaemonFC; I'd rather not be in this situation but it is what it is. You can't tax someone when you've ruined their earnings potential.
04:30 TR News; "The fact that this was found by Grace Hopper who is an absolute legend in the world of computer programming adds to the legendary status of this story. And this story has been repeated countless times as the origin for why we use the term bug when talking about errors and defects in computer software." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-story-of-the-first-computer-bug
04:30 TR Bot; The story of the first "computer bug"... is a pile of lies.
04:30 DaemonFC; Maybe they should stop SWATTING people based on the sworn testimony of an illegal immigrant and a pedophile.
04:30 DaemonFC; Then this wouldn't happen.
04:31 DaemonFC; I'm biting my tongue until this is all over.
04:32 TR News; Excerpt from Norman Finkelsteins forthcoming book on Cancel Culture and Academic Freedom #1 | Norman Finkelstein http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/excerpt-from-norman-finkelsteins-forthcoming-book-on-cancel-culture-and-academic-freedom-1-selected-by-obinna-ijomah-on-01-august-2021/ "Cancel culture is as old as culture itself."
04:32 TR Bot; Excerpt from Norman Finkelsteins forthcoming book on Cancel Culture and Academic Freedom #1 | Norman Finkelstein
04:32 DaemonFC; I'm biting my tongue. I'll get the files destroyed.
04:32 DaemonFC; Then they have no way of taking it back and I can say whatever I want about it.
04:33 DaemonFC; The truth!
04:33 TR News; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ Source: gemini://gemini.techrights.org | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/
04:33 s98259; Does your life revolve around politics?
04:33 TR Bot; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights
04:34 TR News; Friction as a Proxy for Value https://matt-rickard.com/friction-as-a-proxy-for-value
04:34 DaemonFC; The TSA employed a vicious pedophile for years.
04:34 TR Bot; Friction as a Proxy for Value
04:34 s98259; vicious?
04:34 DaemonFC; One who would come home and brag about feeling up underage teenagers while I counted how many payments were left on that car, when I would have been better off driving it into the lake and walking away.
04:35 DaemonFC; s98259, Yes, John is worse than Dr. Pizza.
04:35 DaemonFC; Or at least as bad as Dr. Pizza.
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04:35 *s98259 sighs
04:35 s98259; Who the fuck is John and who the fuck is Dr Pizza?
04:35 DaemonFC; He was on gay.com talking to a man about arranging to rape his 6 and 8 year old children while the guy watched.
04:35 s98259; You speak as if I should know these people...
04:36 s98259; hmm
04:36 DaemonFC; I wanted a way out, and I got almost the worst one possible.
04:36 DaemonFC; SWATTED by John and Luis (his Grindr fuck, the illegal immigrant).
04:36 DaemonFC; Then tossed around in the courts like some kind of criminal.
04:37 schestowitz[TR]; SWATTED does not mean that
04:38 TR News; Workplace surveillance is coming for you https://pluralistic.net/2022/08/21/great-taylors-ghost/#solidarity-or-bust
04:38 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 21 Aug 2022 The Shitty Technology Adoption Curve Reaches Apogee Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
04:39 s98259; lol
04:39 TR News; Gmail will call the cops on you based on the content of your emails https://pluralistic.net/2022/08/22/allopathic-risk/#snitches-get-stitches
04:39 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 22 Aug 2022 Gmail will call the cops on you based on the content of your emails Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: I know that story
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; John is his ex
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; Luis if the guy his ex chose over him
04:40 s98259; No using Gmail then. :D
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; and he raised a knife or something
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; or reahc out for one
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; so they called the cops
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; he calls this "SWATTED"
04:40 s98259; hmm
04:40 s98259; o.O
04:40 schestowitz[TR]; that's an entirely different thing
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; when you get armed cops to raid your home and maybe kill you
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; e.g. by telling them you are armed and dangerous
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; or kill your pet
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; cops love shooting dogs
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; even your neighbour's dog is the dog "gets in their way"
04:41 schestowitz[TR]; *if
04:42 s98259; :(
04:42 schestowitz[TR]; US is already post-apocalyptic in some areas
04:42 schestowitz[TR]; it'll spread to more places, over tiem..
04:42 schestowitz[TR]; my sister lives there and plans to leave
04:42 s98259; :(
04:43 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC needs love
04:43 schestowitz[TR]; nobody gives that to him
04:43 schestowitz[TR]; or gave
04:44 *starstreak_macos is watching Tron: Legacy
04:44 s98259; Love is important because it develops intimacy.
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; Tron Paul: LEGO
04:44 starstreak_macos; lol
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; "my bum is on the sweidish... swedish"
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04:47 starstreak_macos; swedish!
04:47 starstreak_macos; ok so on mac you don't have pidgin, you got adium
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; i thought it was common knowledge
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; are you using that for irc too?
04:48 starstreak_macos; yes
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; I've not used pidgin for years
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; some lunaticss think clown computing is "da fyucher"
04:49 starstreak_macos; its kinda annoying, it doesnt scroll down
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; and so they shut down jabber where I work
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; pidgin is now a good irc client
04:49 starstreak_macos; its alright
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; it works, sort of... but really retrofitted into a jabber client
04:50 starstreak_macos; i'd rather be using hexchat
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; quassel and konversation are good if you have qt
04:52 starstreak_macos; I like konversation
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 10.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 93.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 104.15
05:00 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
05:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
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05:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers"
05:02 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/301310201_601100078352175_1421125838931804913_n.jpg?stp=cp1_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=4ipZqTqSiVUAX_1zsK9&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT8Hx46xAMd0Hu5jT5XKRJXYp89NtlAIIPjcf52HhGsaeA&oe=630E1AAB
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; your republican FB 'friends' spreading BS
05:03 schestowitz[TR]; or 'family'
05:04 starstreak_macos; lame meme
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: how much income tax did you pay this year?
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; how much did IRC tax you?
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; *IRS
05:04 DaemonFC; I won't know until next year.
05:04 schestowitz[TR];
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; MURDOCH MEDIA IS RUNNING ...
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; hmm.. caps
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; weird
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; bug
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; murdoch media runs anti-IRS BS campaign
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; to distract from the real catalysts of the downturn
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; blame immigrants, blame irs...
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; blame biden of course
05:05 DaemonFC; Fuck the IRS and fuck the police and fuck the government and fuck the judges and fuck the welfare office and fuck the parks department and especially fuck the Health Department, and fuck the library telling me I need to leave my name for COVID contact tracers and strap Mandy down for a Monkeypox shot experiment.
05:06 DaemonFC; Fuck all of them. Fuck them very much.
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; the issue with irs is that it doesn't pick on oliugarfhchs
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; like murdoch and gates
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; if you lawyers up they leave you alone to carry on with tax fraud
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; *lawyer up
05:08 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Purism Rant and pgAdmin 4 v6.13 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/pgadmin-4-v6-13/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/pgadmin-4-v6-13/
05:08 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Purism Rant and pgAdmin 4 v6.13 | Techrights
05:12 TR News; Racism by GulagTube https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IPXukSZhTuI
05:12 TR Bot; Big Problems at Youtube - Invidious
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05:20 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: :3
05:20 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> murdoch media runs anti-IRS BS campaign
05:20 DaemonFC; I've stopped using PayPal.
05:21 DaemonFC; I don't take any money on PayPal anymore.
05:21 DaemonFC; Not worth getting a 1099-K form over something I'd voluntarily report anyway.
05:22 DaemonFC; You might as well report income if it's significant. If you don't and they find out later, you're not looking good, and just because there's a $600 reporting limit for 1099s doesn't mean you shouldn't voluntarily report lower amounts from a payer.
05:22 DaemonFC; They _can_ decide to give you a 1099 anyway, and then what would you do when you're a mismatch?
05:23 DaemonFC; :)
05:23 DaemonFC; But the K form is a bad one to even have issued, because it's "informational".
05:23 DaemonFC; So the IRS knows you got money, which is fine, because you would report it anyway.
05:23 DaemonFC; But it doesn't tell them which transactions are taxable and which aren't and how so.
05:23 DaemonFC; Nor you.
05:24 DaemonFC; So now you have a tax mess and have to go down god knows how many lines on the K form figuring it all out yourself. :)
05:25 DaemonFC; They should really do something about this to where you can separate Business and Family so you don't get 1099s from Family, but if it's Business you'll get a 1099-MISC or 1099-B or a 1099-COMPOSITE.
05:25 DaemonFC; Anything BUT K.
05:25 DaemonFC; K is basically a giant "fuck you, figure this shit out on your own".
05:26 DaemonFC; If I have someone pay me by check then I can deposit it in my bank account, and then at tax time, if it's income, I can say "I got a check from X for this amount for doing that.".
05:26 DaemonFC; If it's mom paying you back for spotting her car repair bill, it's not "income".
05:26 DaemonFC; If it's a rebate, it's not taxable.
05:26 TR News; GulagTube also ignores reports of clickfraud. Put another way, Gulag Inc. (Alphabet) is 100% FINE with CLICKFRAUD as long as it makes the platform look 20 TIMES bigger than it really is. Gulag supports the BLACK MARKER of FAKE clicks.
05:26 schestowitz[TR]; *MARKET
05:27 DaemonFC; So you want to just avoid the 1099-K AT ALL COSTS and report your taxes.
05:27 *s98259 gets a table and drops it on top of DaemonFC
05:27 DaemonFC; You won't cause the kind of shit the K form will where it can be a giant problem 3 years later when you aren't even thinking about it anymore.
05:28 TR News; Wanna bet Gulag would seek revenge if you call them racist (in order to protect the racists)? They've got all these "creators" 'by the b0lls' https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IPXukSZhTuI
05:28 TR Bot; Big Problems at Youtube - Invidious
05:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm surprised GULAG hasn't blocked Invidious yet.
05:28 DaemonFC; Just not that much of a nuisance?
05:28 schestowitz[TR]; they will when it gets biog enough
05:28 schestowitz[TR]; *big
05:29 schestowitz[TR]; I thought about doing blog posts about Gulag faking numbers
05:29 schestowitz[TR]; but evidence I have is narrow (just a channel or two)
05:29 schestowitz[TR]; Twitter does this for sure
05:29 schestowitz[TR]; reports aaid FB had done this with videros, and it got sued
05:29 DaemonFC; Yeah, Dorsey got rich and got out.
05:29 DaemonFC; mjg59_ and his army of 8 followers.
05:29 schestowitz[TR]; twitter is a botfarm
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; russia and other nations take advantage of it
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; they just set up automated operations there
05:30 DaemonFC; I have more people who read my blog than interact with his Shitter in any way that I'm aware of.
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; to boost some things for political gain
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; and twitter looks the other way
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; until _US_ polticians press them
05:30 s98259; My mother has lost teeth :(
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; and then they try to cull the bvotnets
05:30 s98259; Osteoporosis
05:30 schestowitz[TR]; and of course remoove MANY LEGIT accounts in the process, too
05:31 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: one can get dentures and stuff... there are worse things than lost teeth
05:31 schestowitz[TR]; Osteoporosis does worse things
05:31 schestowitz[TR]; like causing immobility
05:32 schestowitz[TR]; at 40, I've still not had a single tooth filling or similar
05:32 schestowitz[TR]; I'm sure one day I will... maybe after 50, I hope
05:32 DaemonFC; I have three fillings.
05:33 DaemonFC; I haven't lost any other than panicking and getting my wisdom teeth removed the day before I lost dad's dental insurance from RCA.
05:33 schestowitz[TR]; may people have false teeth, but you will never know unless you know them very well
05:33 DaemonFC; Mandy does.
05:33 DaemonFC; Then his insurance tried not paying.
05:33 schestowitz[TR]; same for other conditions
05:33 DaemonFC; Then I got them to eventually.
05:33 schestowitz[TR]; overrated as people keep it private
05:33 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: You've not had a single filling? I've lost two molars...
05:33 schestowitz[TR]; and the proportion of people who got abortions
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; teeth are bad sdesign
05:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Well, abortion now more than ever is a shoot, shovel, and shut-up issue in America.
05:35 DaemonFC; Like what happened when Congress passed the Endangered Species Act.
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; if we were "intelligently designed" we'd have better means of digesting food
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; I reckon humans' teeth are inferior to teeth of many other animals
05:35 s98259; :D
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; like human vision and hearing
05:36 s98259; Yep
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; cats can also survive big falls
05:36 s98259; It's just our brain that's good and the fact we have hands.
05:36 s98259; And the fact we are bipedal
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; osoctopus has many 'hands'
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; *octopus
05:36 s98259; Yah
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; and much better vision, too
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; octopus does not need dentists
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; bipedal is not good
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; you lose one mkeg and that's it
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; and you cann't move around
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; most other mammals can bounce around on 3
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; we need at least 3 legs
05:38 s98259; For a creature with our brains that therefore applies them the way it does, it's fine. :)
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; good luck kicking someone'e bum if you are one-legged
05:39 s98259; lol
05:39 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> cats can also survive big falls
05:39 DaemonFC; Out of a 5-6 story window during a fire.
05:39 DaemonFC; Saw that happen in Chicago. Cat was fine.
05:39 DaemonFC; Got up, shook itself off, walked away.
05:41 TR News; Happy National Radio Day! - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5223 Source: SparkFun Electronics | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sparkfun.com/news/5223
05:41 TR Bot; National Radio Day! - News - SparkFun Electronics
05:42 TR News; Catching sanitizer errors programmatically - Daniel Lemires blog https://lemire.me/blog/2022/08/20/catching-sanitizer-errors-programmatically/ Source: Daniel Lemire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lemire.me/blog/2022/08/20/catching-sanitizer-errors-programmatically/
05:42 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/08/20/catching-sanitizer-errors-programmatically/ )
05:45 TR News; "If you live in a smart home, how do you interact with it?" I live in a smart home; it's smart enough to know to AVOID all those mass surveillance gimmicks. I interact with hands and stuff. https://staceyoniot.com/google-atap-has-a-blueprint-for-ambient-computing/
05:45 TR Bot; Google ATAP has a blueprint for ambient computing - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
05:47 TR News; "The rich man thats unable to find happiness because he doesnt realize the goal of life is altruism/nirvana/love/enjoying-the-moment/god is beyond cliche." https://www.epistem.ink/p/in-defense-of-making-money
05:47 TR Bot; In Defense Of Making Money - by George - Epistemink
05:49 TR News; "For some people, having 200k worth of savings might be enough to shift their paradigm to now I can live frugally off savings and dedicate my life to joining a deworming project in Africa." https://www.epistem.ink/p/in-defense-of-making-money
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05:52 starstreak_macos; ahhh, irssi, much better
05:52 starstreak_macos; homebrew didnt have hexchat :(
05:52 starstreak_macos; or konversation
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 127.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.41
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:23 starstreak_macos; yay lagrange works on mac :D
06:26 starstreak_macos; https://i.imgur.com/kYMcoPm.png
06:28 schestowitz[TR]; u use mac btw
06:29 starstreak_macos; yeah i use mac btw
06:29 starstreak_macos; lol
06:29 starstreak_macos; i pulled it out of my closet
06:30 starstreak_macos; the built in screen stopped working so i replaced it but external monitors work
06:40 DaemonFC; The only thing that happens if you try to read Matthew Garrett's blog with a text browser or with JavaShit turned off, is it won't load.
06:40 DaemonFC; See, NoScript improves things already. I'm still reachable and he isn't. :)
06:40 loner; DaemonFC: which blog?
06:40 DaemonFC; Well, Dreamwidth or Shitter. Neither one of his work without JavaShit.
06:41 DaemonFC; But you can look at Shitter through Nitter without JavaShit turned on or in a text browser.
06:41 starstreak_macos; ooo, quassel is for macOS
06:41 DaemonFC; Twitter is rarely important. I don't have an account.
06:41 DaemonFC; All I sometimes want is read-only access, so Nitter works.
06:42 loner; DaemonFC: true http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10437.html
06:42 DaemonFC; And it lets you see NSFW posts without logging in and identifying yourself to Shitter.
06:42 TR Bot; mjg59 | The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement
06:42 loner; although i think a few days ago i did read his blog, with w3m browser
06:42 DaemonFC; Identify! IDENTIFYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! (Dalek)
06:42 DaemonFC; So that Shitter can compile what kind of freaky stuff you want.
06:42 TR News; Not Just Twitter: YouTube is Failing, Flailing, and Tolerating Clickfraud (Bot Activity) in Order to Fake Its Size (Audience Magnitude) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/faketube/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/faketube/
06:42 TR Bot; Not Just Twitter: YouTube is Failing, Flailing, and Tolerating Clickfraud (Bot Activity) in Order to Fake Its Size (Audience Magnitude) | Techrights
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06:43 loner; now i see why: his blog website demands javascript when i use onion proxy, without onion proxy no javascript asked for
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06:43 loner; same browser otherwise, w3m
06:44 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/300882554_438523704978155_7853907334354928585_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=US4oKnFMQVgAX8Knu_d&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT8T1iS_RVIpR5uXYCRaSgc6h9eufwNm-AXTrPOGtOmyUQ&oe=630D95DB
06:44 DaemonFC; It demands JavaShit from me even without Tor.
06:44 DaemonFC; So it must demand JavaShit for VPN users as well.
06:44 DaemonFC; Identify! IDENTIFYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! (Dalek)
06:44 TR News; 2650 gemini capsules now? gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
06:45 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H6XDgZcE-7I
06:45 TR Bot; Dalek Identify yourself - Invidious
06:45 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is a Dalek
06:45 DaemonFC; Social Justice Dalek
06:46 loner; what is a Dalek?
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Well, Dreamwidth or Shitter. Neither one of his work without JavaShit.
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; worse yet,
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; both are proprietary
06:46 schestowitz[TR]; and outsourced
06:46 DaemonFC; <loner> what is a Dalek?
06:46 DaemonFC; A Doctor Who antagonist race.
06:46 starstreak_macos; loner: a dalek is a robot from the tv series Doctor Who
06:47 DaemonFC; They see anything other than other Daleks (and some cases inferior Daleks) as something that has to be EXTERMINATED!
06:47 DaemonFC; They're not robots.
06:48 loner; never seen Dr. Who
06:48 DaemonFC; They're technically cyborgs.
06:48 loner; anyway
06:48 DaemonFC; It's better than this Star Trek bullshit.
06:49 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is some kind of Trekkie I think.
06:49 loner; DaemonFC seems to be occupied 10h/day to throw mutt at Mr. G, in this channel
06:49 DaemonFC; Watching most Star Trek is a chore because it's so dry and poorly written.
06:49 DaemonFC; And the characters are not likable or relatable, usually.
06:49 loner; 10years ago, i bought the entire "next generation" series on DVD
06:50 DaemonFC; If I have a favorite Trek character though, it's The Doctor from Voyager.
06:50 loner; nowadays, i think, it's childish quackery, most of it
06:50 starstreak_macos; I enjoyed Star Trek Discovery
06:50 DaemonFC; That's the worst one so far.
06:50 loner; except, Mr. Garak, the only grown-up adult character in the entire series
06:50 DaemonFC; Strange New Worlds is at least better than Discovery.
06:51 DaemonFC; I always felt that Pike should have been the Captain in TOS.
06:51 loner; and the Grand Nagus, reminded me of Trumpovitsch
06:51 DaemonFC; Kirk was simply too outlandish.
06:51 DaemonFC; Shatner is a poor actor who is always trying to steal screen time.
06:51 TR News; Homebrew Basics Commands and Cheat Sheet for Linux https://www.linuxshelltips.com/homebrew-commands-cheat-sheet-linux/ Source: Linux Shell Tips | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/homebrew-commands-cheat-sheet-linux/
06:51 TR Bot; Homebrew Basics Commands and Cheat Sheet for Linux
06:51 loner; never watched TOS, only "next generation" stuff
06:52 loner; and, Captain Janeway, the most annoying actress in history
06:52 DaemonFC; Why is The Doctor my favorite? He's funny. For one thing. Yeah, he provided comic relief that made up for Janeway a few times.
06:52 DaemonFC; She's wondering what they've done to harm a giant space creature and he gives her the answer I would.
06:53 DaemonFC; "Well, let's see, you rammed your ship into it, blasted it with phasers, and fired a photon torpedo at it....I can't see what could possibly..." and they cut him off.
06:53 loner; nowadays, there's nothing remaining worth watching
06:54 loner; the most recent movie i had seen, was "no country for old men", year 2007
06:54 DaemonFC; A night at the movies with Jamie Zawinski. No really.
06:54 TR News; (NEW): CentOS Automotive SIG: First Year in Review https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/CentOS_Automotive_SIG_First_Year_in_Review.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/CentOS_Automotive_SIG_First_Year_in_Review.gmi
06:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines CentOS Automotive SIG: First Year in Review
06:54 DaemonFC; He gives the short reviews to most of the new movies so you don't have to concern yourself with it.
06:55 DaemonFC; You can just see that they're made for retards and avoid almost all of them.
06:55 loner; the atmosphere, without any music... in comparison, Casino (1995) was overloaded with annoying music
06:55 DaemonFC; They ran out of good ideas long before the Matt GULAGs took everything over anyway.
06:55 DaemonFC; So at least there's that.
06:56 TR News; "Whether you heard it in person at rstudio::conf(2022) or caught the news through the internet grapevine, RStudio PBC is rebranding itself to Posit PBC." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/why-posit-means-growth-for-the-r-community/
06:56 TR Bot; Posit Means Growth for the R Community | R-bloggers
06:56 loner; in germany, this is classified as "operette" (not an Opera, an Operette)
06:56 DaemonFC; But with streaming disservices, the Matt GULAGs can go whine "DELEEEEEETE! DELEEEEEETE!!!" and then you can't watch old stuff either unless you have your own copy.
06:57 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> and outsourced
06:57 DaemonFC; GULAG said he "loves" Dreamwidth, iirc.
06:57 loner; i mean, with Casino (1995), they tried to push too much sensation with the soundtrack, a little less of this, and i would place this movie close to #1
06:57 TR News; Exploding German Electricity Prices: Some Time Series https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/exploding-german-electricity-prices-some-time-series/
06:57 TR Bot; German Electricity Prices: Some Time Series | R-bloggers
06:58 DaemonFC; But he "might have to leave" if Cloudflare, whom they do business with, doesn't DEEEEELEEEEEEEEEETE Kiwi Farms.
06:58 DaemonFC; Social Justice Dalek FAIL
06:58 TR News; "German wholesale electricity prices in August 2022 are extremely high with an average of 397 Euro / MWh (EPEX day ahead prices until 19th of August). That is more than 10 fold the average prices in 2019 (38.3 Euro / MWh) and 2020 (31 Euro / MWh)." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/exploding-german-electricity-prices-some-time-series/
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06:59 DaemonFC; Yes, they'll cancel their entire business arrangement with Cloudflare because he warned them!
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 46.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 104.83
06:59 loner; i would rank Stalingrad (1993) little higher than Casino (1995), however, i don't watch many movies
07:00 DaemonFC; Europe is self-destructing due to piss-poor governance.
07:00 chunky; https://streamable.com/ft9hrs
07:00 TR Bot; ladder shitting
07:00 DaemonFC; They spent so many years letting the climate scare BANANAs at their energy sector and outsourcing it to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin that now they're fucked.
07:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR] was boasting about the VERY STABLE WORLDS OLDEST DEMOCRACY.
07:01 DaemonFC; Which is collapsing under Bogus Johnson's feet and 20% inflation. Over twice as bad as the inflation here.
07:02 loner; with TV-Series, i consider X-files the all-time best ever produced
07:02 starstreak_macos; x-files was amazing
07:02 loner; there's no more bang for the buch than with this tv-series
07:02 loner; buck
07:02 loner; only sad thing with x-files, i had seen all of it already, and need to wait 5-10years to enjoy it again
07:03 starstreak_macos; there was a new season of x-files a few years ago
07:04 loner; i think with Season7, give or take a few more episodes, the series ended, when Mulder disappeared
07:05 starstreak_macos; yeah, that guy from terminator 2 wasn't so great
07:06 loner; i think it wasn't possible anymore to prolong this series; the best was made out of it, and the director missed the moment when to call it quit
07:06 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/299812819_461948895816183_8369932215107935320_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=gpBY5-RlAJEAX-V9Unv&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=00_AT8c-pxr164v8NITkEoUnswOtspjGlwxq0V03n04gYbUiQ&oe=630D453C
07:08 loner; most often, i prefer the english-language original with movies, Casino (1995) is a rare exception to this, with german being the better one
07:09 loner; for example, the counting room, where the money is counted, was translated as Tabernakel in german, which added some humorous nuance absent in english
07:11 DaemonFC; Mozilla churns out a lot of misinformation.
07:11 TR News; UK Government Should Get Back to Releasing COVID-19 Data Every Day, Not (Barely) Every Week https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/26/open-data/
07:11 DaemonFC; TikTok is probably actually even worse than Facebook.
07:11 TR Bot; Blog Archive UK Government Should Get Back to Releasing COVID-19 Data Every Day, Not (Barely) Every Week
07:11 DaemonFC; But they're endorsing it.
07:11 schestowitz[TR]; yes, I saw that
07:11 schestowitz[TR]; they should combat social control media in general
07:11 schestowitz[TR]; but they moan about its sdide effects
07:12 schestowitz[TR]; snot the disease itself
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07:13 loner; with "No country for old men", some brilliant moments were when some amateur actors portrayed the inhabitants
07:13 loner; and, there was a short moment when music played, in Mexico... which too seemed some authentic musicians
07:14 loner; sadly, it's only a few seconds the musicians play
07:14 starstreak_macos; I got something called X-Chat Aqua for macOS
07:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I can't believe you have any buy-in to this system.
07:15 DaemonFC; Courts are the way rich people fuck over poor people.
07:15 DaemonFC; It's basically a government-approved way to harass and steal,m
07:16 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> but they moan about its sdide effects
07:16 DaemonFC; They don't want a decentralized Web for the same reason mjg59_ doesn't like the idea.
07:16 starstreak_macos; <DaemonFC> It's basically a government-approved way to harass and steal,m. <--- so true
07:16 DaemonFC; If it's centralized then it's one target for the Cancel mob.
07:17 DaemonFC; If you can take it over, you can do a clean sweep of the Web and knock off anyone you don't like in one stroke.
07:18 starstreak_macos; I think the Cancel mob got reptilian content removed from Youtube
07:18 loner; well, no surprise, Hollywood, too is centralized control over entertainment, in California
07:18 DaemonFC; If the Taliban get to be on the Web, who doesn't?
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 loner; excretion of shallow infantile politically correct spectacle and commerce
07:21 loner; i wonder, if Texas is really as it is presented in No country for old men
07:21 DaemonFC; That's what they want, you know. To get inside everyone's heads and tell them how to think.
07:23 loner; this women at the receiption, who denies giving information about the residents of the trailer park
07:23 loner; reminds me of my grandmother, the hair cut, the resilience
07:25 loner; i tried to count the number of murders in "No country for old men", which is rather difficult, because there was that many
07:25 loner; and in the end, that's shocking, i realized, they're all dead
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07:26 loner; and it is almost impossible to count how many it was
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07:32 starstreak_macos; Im putting some new screenshots up on deviantart
07:33 starstreak_macos; That's where I found that one from 2004
07:34 loner; in year 2004, everything was rigged already
07:34 loner; i think, that's why, good movies were either produced predating the millenial, and/or it's 1980/90s the scenery is placed at
07:35 TR News; Humour as a Non-Answer | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/linus-torvalds-on-backdoor-in-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/linus-torvalds-on-backdoor-in-linux/
07:35 TR Bot; Humour as a Non-Answer | Techrights
07:36 loner; star trek "next generation", began production in 1980s
07:37 loner; then, at some time, "cold war" supposedly had ended, then september 2001
07:37 loner; 20years ago, in USA, they must have realized already, the golden era of theirs of US culture and science had ended already
07:38 loner; any later, it's no progress anymore, it's shallow commerce
07:38 loner; this is what succeeded since then, commercialization
07:38 TR News; ZDNET: just 2 stories on "Linux" in past 10 days. It used to be 3 per day. ZDNet is dying. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022
07:38 TR Bot; ZDNet - Techrights
07:39 loner; i mean, the apollo guidance computer, is 1960s tech
07:39 loner; with this, USA sent men onto the moon
07:40 loner; something went wrong many decades ago already, somehow lost control, some ideological doctrine, which i can't fully grasp yet
07:41 loner; hence, i distinguish, USA until 1990s, and USA 30years later
07:41 loner; that's two different countries
07:41 starstreak_macos; Here loner: https://winworldpc.com/product/red-hat-linux/50
07:41 TR Bot; WinWorld: Red Hat Linux 5.0
07:41 starstreak_macos; There is red hat 5.0
07:42 loner; i received a first cultural shock, in germany too, because i was shielded and isolated in grammer school, and another few years in university, didn't notice most of the "changes"
07:43 loner; meaning, i entirely missed a decade or two of "change", in germany, and then all of the sudden, realized, what a madhouse it had become
07:43 loner; probably same in USA, UK wherever else, that's not the same country anymore, which produced particular movies and tv series
07:44 loner; when i first saw "smart phones" 15 years ago, i instantly decided i will _NEVER_ use any, and _NEVER_ did
07:44 loner; although, imagine this, i did study at Deutsche Telekom
07:46 loner; anyway, most relevant technical aspects are completely unknown, even among the "free software" crowd
07:47 loner; how many have at least heard of trellis code or anything else relevant?
07:47 loner; they're all boasting with their "expertise", and never grasp any rudimentary maths and science of the new era
07:47 DaemonFC; gemini://ur.gs/blog/off-grid-in-suburbia/
07:47 DaemonFC; Okay, here's my problem.
07:48 DaemonFC; The guy says his family was left without food in the house, utilities (for days), etc when he was a child.
07:48 DaemonFC; "But that's expected when you're in the bottom 5%."
07:48 DaemonFC; Now that half the population is at risk, that's a problem, he says.
07:48 DaemonFC; No it's not.
07:49 DaemonFC; Where were they when you were going hungry and without heat?
07:49 DaemonFC; Time for them to spend a little time in your world.
07:49 DaemonFC; Fuck 'em.
07:49 DaemonFC; Let them go without heat and food for a winter and see how THEY like it!
07:49 DaemonFC; See how many of them come through it and are fine with letting the good times roll while other people have to suffer.
07:50 DaemonFC; I think things would be a lot better if most people lost their heat for the winter because of their own politicians. The people they voted for.
07:50 DaemonFC; They were fine with it when it was Someone Else's Problem.
07:51 loner; final nuclear shutdown is scheduled for december 2022 in germany
07:52 loner; may sound spectacular, yet i say they had shut down 20 years ago already, an era of science and engineering, gambled, by corrupt and incompetent and arrogant pseudo-intellectuals
07:53 loner; most of them, are affiliates of "atlantic bridge", ironically; that's why the political parties here, are a scam
07:53 loner; they're all coordinated puppets of washington, and they're still proud of it
07:53 loner; somehow
07:54 loner; that's why, i don't trust Vladimir P., because in public Vladimirowitsch agitates against "the west", and in parallel does shake hands with the exact same lunatics who are affiliated closely to washington, to conduct oil/gas business
07:54 loner; a contradiction, i am looking forward, to an explanation
07:56 loner; currently, that's the highest order of intellect currently: energy production is heavily subsidized which either doesn't exist or doesn't produce any energy ("renewables")
07:56 loner; that's subsidies for nothing, then prices for energy increase, energy which doesn't exist
07:56 loner; and too, taxation is, again, increased on energy which isn't consumed
07:57 TR News; The Absurdity of UK Government's COVID-19 Data Disclosures (Deaths 2-3 Times Higher, But Updates/Data Demoted From Daily to Weekly) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/26/the-absurdity-of-uk-governments-covid-19-data-disclosures-deaths-2-3-times-higher-but-updatesdata-demoted-from-daily-to-weekly/
07:57 TR Bot; Blog Archive The Absurdity of UK Governments COVID-19 Data Disclosures (Deaths 2-3 Times Higher, But Updates/Data Demoted From Daily to Weekly)
07:57 loner; recently a "renewable eco tax" was abandoned, instead thy want to re-introduce it now as "gas reallocation tax" (Gasumlage)... that's weird
07:58 loner; all i noticed, it's impossible to estimate the amount of gas i consumed with the bill i got from the landlord
07:58 DaemonFC; "Pollo Is Back in the US and UK. Heres How That Happened" -Wired (typo....Polio) / Pollo? Well, there was a chicken shortage, but I guess they solved it!
07:58 loner; meaning, at least, i want to know, how much gas i consumed, and how much i pay for it
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 58.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 84.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 82.21
07:59 loner; instead of precise kWh consumed, they re-label it simply as a "unit" (Einheit, scalar), and then confuse percentage/share of costs with percentage/share of consumption
07:59 DaemonFC; https://www.wired.com/story/us-census-queerness-data/
07:59 TR Bot; Does Queerness Fit Into the US Census? | WIRED
08:00 DaemonFC; "Partner is a curious label, a term that can have a jumble of meanings. Partners might run businesses or law firms. Some of us have partners in crime."
08:00 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG has a "partner".
08:00 loner; hence, although i lowered consumption, again, 20% in the last two years, the demanded _more_ money, which was _before_ the recent price explosions and the "gas reallocation tax"
08:01 loner; and my income is that low, any lower and i have to live in a tent with internet disconnected
08:01 starstreak_macos; I hate python
08:01 DaemonFC; "Gasumlage"
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; a partner in crime can be a spouse too
08:01 loner; anyway, i collected evidence, for 20years now
08:01 DaemonFC; But I didn't even sneeze!
08:02 TR News; "We don't like AppArmor, in large part because it doesn't work in our environment" https://jamesg.blog/2022/08/21/indieweb-etherpad-archiver/ | Source: James G
08:02 TR Bot; Building an IRC archiver bot for the IndieWeb community | James' Coffee Blog
08:03 TR News; "Linux supports numerous filesystems, such as Btrfs, ext4, ext3, ext2, exFAT, sysfs, securityfs, FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, and many." https://ostechnix.com/how-to-find-the-mounted-filesystem-type-in-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix
08:03 TR Bot; To Find Filesystem Types In Linux - OSTechNix
08:03 TR News; "I decided I could do better, and set out to eliminate FastCGI from my setup." https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/12367.html | Source: Diziet
08:03 TR Bot; diziet | prefork-interp - automatic startup time amortisation for all manner of scripts
08:04 TR News; "If youve been waiting for this Id like to thank you for your patience" https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4378 | Source: Linux Mint
08:04 TR Bot; How to upgrade to Linux Mint 21 The Linux Mint Blog
08:04 TR News; "The idea to connect a device that relies on an I2C interface to the DDC pins found inside an unused video port isnt new." https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c | Source: Tom's Hardware
08:04 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Project Enables I2C Interface Using HDMI Port | Tom's Hardware
08:05 TR News; 40 years of CDs : From listening pleasure to useless trash? https://www.dw.com/en/40-years-of-cds-from-listening-pleasure-to-useless-trash/a-62821523 | Source: Deutsche Welle
08:05 TR Bot; years of CDs : From listening pleasure to useless trash? | Culture | Arts, music and lifestyle reporting from Germany | DW | 17.08.2022
08:07 TR News; "The topics that follow multiplication include division, fractions, area, perimeter, angles, telling time, and other things I promptly forgot how to do as soon as I graduated from high school." https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/26/23319398/duolingo-math-app-beta-launch-duocon-2022 | Source: The Verge
08:07 TR Bot; Duolingo has math now (and its kind of hard) - The Verge
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08:09 loner; with this proposed "gas reallocation tax" (Gasumlage), they announced it would be calculated per kWh
08:09 loner; i hope for this next time, this "gas reallocation tax" is separately accounted, then with this i can estimate the amount of kWh somehow at least
08:10 loner; if this wasn't fraudulent too
08:11 loner; last winter, i only heated one room where i remain, at lowest possible temperature to prevent moisture and fungus growth
08:12 loner; i waited until middle of november last year, and turned of completely beginning of march, the minimal heating i _must_ do
08:13 loner; i should measure temperature next winter, i think the flat cooled down to ~15degC entire winter
08:13 loner; and then i got a schedule, as soon as i _must_ turn on heating in the room i reside (moisture), i turn of the fridge
08:14 loner; meaning, during "heating" season, i turn of the fridge entirely
08:14 loner; i quit using the dish washer, and used hot water, since the "war in ukraine" i use cold water to wash dishes
08:15 TR News; "Googles AI and filtering tagged the photos as child abuse without taking into context the situation." https://siliconangle.com/2022/08/21/big-tech-gone-bad-google-blocks-accounts-based-false-positives/ | Source: Silicon Angle
08:15 TR Bot; tech gone bad: Google blocks accounts based on false child exploitation filter - SiliconANGLE
08:15 loner; never used alot of hot water for the little dish washing, nonetheless, i estimate hot water will be 50% down, at least
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08:17 loner; last year, i consumed 13cubic meters of warm water, per year; this year it will be at most 6cubic meters of warm water, per year
08:17 loner; i am looking forward to how they intend to justify another price explosion for this
08:18 TR News; Proprietary TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/australia-and-increasingly-attractive-traget-for-cybercriminals-report.html | Source: IT Wire
08:18 TR Bot; - Australia an increasingly attractive traget for cybercriminals: report
08:18 loner; sadly, with heating, it is NOT possible to estimate the consumption in kWh, and i consider the bill i received, how should i say
08:18 TR News; Surveillance by Microsoft... now 'free' https://www.pcworld.com/article/916902/duckduckgo-email-service.html | Source: PC World http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
08:18 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.pcworld.com/article/916902/duckduckgo-email-service.html )
08:18 loner; it is compliant with some laws to account "heating costs" in germany, however i cannot estimate real consumption
08:18 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo )
08:19 loner; however, i do know with absolute certainty, the heating i _must_ do to prevent fungus and moisture in one room i reside, is as low as the hot water consumption
08:19 loner; btw, i got no car, no office, no holidays in 20years, nothing
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08:21 schestowitz[TR]; loner: does your radicalism predate this condition? Or follows that?
08:21 loner; anyway, Casino (1995), the dialog: "The bosses shit onto supreme court and all this crap" (translated from german), it's a different mindset
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; I mean, I can understand your frustration if you cannot find a job and such
08:21 loner; schestowitz[TR]: whose radicalism?
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; but need to understand if these beliefs are the reasons you were put on shitlists in the first place
08:22 loner; schestowitz[TR]: i was hired several times, Telekom, Airbus, DLR, Eutelsat and/or their subsidiaries
08:22 loner; if you want i got some contracts archived here
08:22 loner; however, i shit onto those
08:22 loner; not worth the paper anymore
08:23 loner; same with the bills from the landlord (it's not his fault, it's "laws" by government)
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; so what happeend?
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; and when?
08:23 loner; and their "social ecological justice"
08:23 loner; schestowitz[TR]: happened what?
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; you lost the job
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; or left
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; for some reason
08:23 loner; since 1990, it's three expropriations as I explained
08:23 loner; schestowitz[TR]: i terminated contracts
08:24 loner; and the last one was special, although i was "fired" little later IBM wanted to hire
08:24 loner; however, for this they wanted me to relocate to Munich, which i didn't want to
08:24 TR News; "The answer lies in the concept of manufactured consent." https://www.teenvogue.com/story/bail-reform-new-york | Source: Teen Vogue
08:24 TR Bot; Bail Reform In New York Is Under Threat Thanks to Misinformation and Fearmongering | Teen Vogue
08:24 loner; schestowitz[TR]: certainly won't i ever sign any contract with this type of criminals
08:24 loner; whatever company label they place onto their banner, that's irelevant
08:24 loner; doesn't mean anything
08:26 TR News; "They say the plant near the border with Finland, is burning an estimated $10m (8.4m) worth of gas every day." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62652133 | Source: BillBC (taking bribes from the world's biggest polluter, Bill Gates)
08:26 TR Bot; Climate change: Russia burns off gas as Europe's energy bills rocket - BBC News
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; lockeanarchist: did the local employment agency/gov. dept offer you something else?
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; *loner:
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; to reintegrate you into conformist society?
08:27 loner; schestowitz[TR]: i told them what i want and explained to them why
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; an office of your own
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's not that simple
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; I have my own officer
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; *officer
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; but I work at nights for it
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; an employer
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; and clients I don't truly care fro
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; *for
08:28 loner; i wan't back my homeland, and the entire expropriations undone, receive my salary for the last 20 years, and compensation of _ALL_ damages
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; I'll soon be 12 years in this job
08:28 loner; *want
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; even godel had to teach
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; give classes
08:28 schestowitz[TR]; maybe cmark up exams
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's not always what you want to do
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; you have to do some things against your will
08:29 loner; no problem
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's how this system works
08:29 loner; if this type of bureaucracy was capable of a legally compliant contract, i am all ears
08:29 loner; however, that's not unconditional anymore
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; the germany taxpayers won't pay you for 20 years
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot prove culpability and damages
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; *german
08:30 loner; i don't want anyone else's money, i want _MY_ money
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; money is not a real thing
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's a number, a concept
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's an allocation of resources
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; you want resources allocated to you
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; for 20 years' 'work'
08:30 loner; and what those generous "taxpayers" pay, most of it is stolen anyway, stolen out of _MY_ pockets long before it arrived on _MY_ acocunt
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; that you did not do for the nation
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; why would they 'put' in your bank accounf "funds"?
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; lockeanarchist: you get roads and stuff
08:31 loner; short answer, i collected evidence for 20years now
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; and polizei and water and so on
08:31 loner; schestowitz[TR]: i got no car, and couldn't afford train tickets either, so what?
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; they raise money for operations
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; so you don't live as nomd in the woods
08:31 schestowitz[TR]; *nomad
08:32 loner; however, the mindset to shit onto any of those type of pseudo-arguments, that's the healthiest mind-set currently
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; well, then you are too opinionated to coexist with the system
08:32 loner; in the end, i made only this mistake, i should have studied something else, with weaponry involveed
08:32 schestowitz[TR]; and it will make life very hard for you
08:32 loner; however, after 1990, the entire military was dismantled
08:33 loner; rest assured, this type of criminal cartell in Europe/Germany, they won't understand any other language
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; so you want violence as a solution?
08:33 TR News; "In tests, the team demonstrated that the new battery cells can withstand hundreds of charge cycles, and charge very quickly in some experiments, less than a minute" https://newatlas.com/energy/aluminum-sulfur-salt-battery-fast-safe-low-cost/ | Source: New Atlas
08:33 TR Bot; Battery made of aluminum, sulfur and salt proves fast, safe and low-cost
08:33 loner; no, it's only what remains they would understand and recognize
08:33 TR News; "The new battery architecture, which uses aluminum and sulfur as its two electrode materials, with a molten salt electrolyte in between, is described today in the journal Nature" https://news.mit.edu/2022/aluminum-sulfur-battery-0824 | Source: uni MIT
08:33 TR Bot; A new concept for low-cost batteries | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
08:33 loner; all else, whatever they excrete out of their mouths, it's lies, cheating, mis-representation, agitation and incitement
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; against?
08:34 loner; and i am not willing to "discuss" on such an irrational basis
08:34 loner; schestowitz[TR]: against the _real_ minority in germany
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; well, you do need to rationalise your views
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; are you the minoriy, michael?
08:34 loner; which views?
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; you're not quite the victim, you know..
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; your governmenbt that you support invaded a lot of europe and even parts of africa
08:35 loner; three expropriations in 30 years
08:35 loner; although, just as said while ago, i am rather relaxed and not worried anymore
08:35 TR News; "Take a look at Drupal, the open-source content management system. Based on Statista, there are 937,000 websites using this CMS." https://labs.ripe.net/author/max-schulze/competition-environmental-impact-of-open-source-23-september-2022/ | Source: RIPE
08:35 TR Bot; Competition: Environmental Impact of Open-source (23 September 2022) | RIPE Labs
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; loner: you still get shelter
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; in some countries you would not
08:36 loner; because, the "rationale" is this: it's not only a threat anymore, they effectively did kill my entire existence
08:37 loner; and they knew it, if the military had not been dismantled in east germany, what would have happened nowadays
08:37 loner; although, i don't think it would be an east-west conflict
08:37 loner; i think it's closer to the Yugoslavian situation, and the civil war escalation stage there
08:38 loner; and it's no coincidence, the mass-immigration from this region into Germany, contributed to the "social" surroundings nowadays, in germany
08:38 loner; we got all those _external_ conflicts _imported_ into germany too
08:38 loner; although, that's only a side-note
08:39 loner; so instead, they killing slowly and silent nowadays, and behave as it never happened
08:40 loner; a few million "socially compliant timed deaths", who cares
08:40 TR News; "trucks and SUVs in the nation's most-populous state, culminating in a total ban of new sales of the vehicles by 2035." https://text.npr.org/1119456396 | Source: NPR
08:40 TR Bot; California will ban sales of new gasoline-powered cars by 2035
08:40 loner; although, there won't be any statistical record made anymore, simply because there isn't any statically significant amount of people remaining anymore
08:40 TR News; "renewable" https://news.err.ee/1608695428/estonia-sets-2030-target-for-renewable-only-electricity | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
08:40 TR Bot; Estonia sets 2030 target for renewable-only electricity | News | ERR
08:40 loner; *statistically
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; loner: it's off topic anyway
08:41 schestowitz[TR]; I think you are full of it (wrt politics) and don't reflect the general views of people here
08:42 loner; it's not politics nor any arbitrary opinion, it's historical _fact_
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; but I respect your right to participate in tech and all.... just don't use it to harm
08:42 loner; undeniable
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; germans are not the victims
08:42 loner; and the scale of murderous corruption, it's not anywhere close to being comprehended
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; you're acting like crybullies
08:42 loner; schestowitz[TR]: germans?
08:42 schestowitz[TR]; yes
08:43 loner; which ones? and when?
08:43 loner; how many?
08:43 loner; whom are you referring to?
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; you view yourself as "true german"
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; and would likely call many others "Fake"
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; based on ethnic stuff
08:43 schestowitz[TR]; like, you complain about ukraine flags where you are
08:44 loner; you have no idea what you're talking about
08:44 TR News; Twitter in the doodoo https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3615648-house-democrats-demand-twitter-respond-to-whistleblower-allegations/ | Source: The Hill
08:44 TR Bot; House Democrats demand Twitter respond to whistleblower allegations | The Hill
08:45 TR News; Free software https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/justice-law-and-security/solution/leos-open-source-software-editing-legislation/news/blog-post-european-commission-open-source-programme-office | Source: Joinup
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08:46 schestowitz[TR]; hitler decided austria was his too, based on language and stuff
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; and later decided that more and more countries are his to own
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; like Putler does not
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; calling Ukrainians "one people" (one with us)
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; then bombing the shit out of the country, and people...
08:46 loner; how should i explain, Romania, is a big country, too Ukraine is
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; using muslim priosoners and stuff
08:46 schestowitz[TR]; as his mercenaries
08:46 loner; it's not as if various conflicts had not been settled in the last 70years
08:47 loner; hence, i am asking myself, since _all_ germans were deported and expelled everywhere...
08:47 loner; hasn't this been enough?
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; departed where from to where?
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; show me mass deportations of germans
08:47 loner; ocasionally, i do look, where various "germans" came from, who are nowadays agitating and inciting hatred on TV (not some fringe niche echo chamber in the internet)
08:48 loner; nowadays, there isn't almost any remaining to deport, nor any place to deport them to
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; show those expulsions you speak of
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; you accuse of "hate" those who are agaionst hate
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; that's projecton
08:49 loner; a slogan, yesterday, debated on public tv: "fight inequality"... discuss
08:49 loner; you have no idea what you're talking about, schestowitz[TR]
08:50 loner; although, in german the slogan reads more closely such as "combat inequality"...
08:50 loner; guess what this "inequality" was supposed to be
08:50 loner; ?
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; financial
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; like you being poor
08:51 loner; schestowitz[TR]: my income is that low, this can't be it
08:51 loner; i am not poor either
08:51 schestowitz[TR]; and then there are effort sto blance things off
08:52 loner; nonetheless they incite hatred and propaganda as if it was 1933
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; so you can get your office a
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; and do gainful activity in the country
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; 1933 had lots of hatred and propaganda
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; from people like you
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; against other people
08:52 loner; against whom did i agitate with what?
08:52 loner; and when?
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; you do this all the time
08:52 schestowitz[TR]; usually with dddddddddddog whistles
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; oops
08:53 schestowitz[TR]; barrier acting up
08:53 TR News; Conservatives reject Facebooks excuse for latest censorship of GOP https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/25/conservatives-reject-facebooks-excuse-latest-censo/ | Source: The Washington Times
08:53 TR Bot; Conservatives reject Facebook's excuse for latest censorship of GOP: 'No one's buying it' - Washington Times
08:53 TR News; "Mark Zuckerberg has admitted that Facebook algorithmically censored the 'Hunter Biden laptop' story for a week." https://www.business-standard.com/article/technology/zuckerberg-admits-censoring-hunter-biden-laptop-story-for-a-week-122082600097_1.html | Source: Business Standard
08:53 TR Bot; timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.business-standard.com/article/technology/zuckerberg-admits-censoring-hunter-biden-laptop-story-for-a-week-122082600097_1.html )
08:55 TR News; "This isn't just insane, it's election interference" https://www.newsweek.com/mark-zuckerbergs-explanation-hunter-biden-censorship-enrages-maga-world-1737163 | Source: Newsweek
08:55 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg's Explanation of Hunter Biden Censorship Enrages MAGA World
08:56 TR News; "Attack On Salman Rushdie: Salman Rushdie, 75, was stabbed by a 24-year-old New Jersey resident identified as Hadi Matar, a US national of Lebanese origin, on stage last week" https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/attack-on-salman-rushdie-anger-understandable-attack-unjustifiable-imran-khan-on-salman-rushdie-3268089 | Source: NDTV
08:56 TR Bot; Attack On Salman Rushdie: Anger Understandable, Attack Unjustifiable: Imran Khan On Salman Rushdie
08:56 TR News; "The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's operations." https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022 | Source: WikiMedia
08:56 TR Bot; Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022 - Meta
08:57 TR News; "For the past few days, the VLC media player ban has been the talk of the town. Some suggest it may be because Chinese hackers use it as a medium to hack into computers in India." https://analyticsindiamag.com/why-was-vlc-banned/ | Source: AIM
08:57 TR Bot; Why was VLC Banned?
08:57 TR News; "the country of origin of the accounts was the United States" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/technology/facebook-twitter-influence-campaign.html | Source: New York Times
08:57 TR Bot; Facebook, Twitter and Others Remove Pro-U.S. Influence Campaign - The New York Times
08:58 TR News; Hopefully Twitter wil shut down some time in the next 5 years https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/technology/twitter-whistleblower-security.html | Source: New York Times
08:58 TR Bot; Twitters Former Security Chief Accuses Company of Egregious Practices - The New York Times
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 143.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 106.45
09:00 TR News; Red Hat/ICBM: Don't say MASTER! DATZ RAYSIST. Latest blog post: "Mastering" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/mastering-kubernetes-cluster-lifecycle-management-multicluster-engine-kubernetes-operator
09:00 TR Bot; Mastering Kubernetes cluster lifecycle management with the multicluster engine for Kubernetes operator
09:02 TR News; "The Bajiu Lite is a FPGA development board with an open-source RISC-V development environment called CRiscV." https://linuxgizmos.com/open-source-fpga-dev-board-offers-custom-risc-v-development-environment/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
09:02 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/open-source-fpga-dev-board-offers-custom-risc-v-development-environment/ )
09:02 TR News; "Ajenti is a free and open source web-based Admin Control Panel that allows you to perform a wide range of server administration tasks such as installing and updating packages, managing services" https://www.tecmint.com/install-ajenti-control-panel-debian-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint
09:02 TR Bot; How to Install Ajenti Control Panel in Debian and Ubuntu
09:04 TR News; ">What was your first GNU/Linux experience?" https://opensource.com/article/22/8/linux-birthday-origin-stories | Source: OpenSource.com
09:04 TR Bot; birthday, Linux! Here are 6 Linux origin stories | Opensource.com
09:04 TR News; "Modern organisations have become reliant on their IT capabilities, and at the heart of that infrastructure is a growing need to store data. Be it transactional databases, file shares, or burgeoning data lakes" https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-storage-for-beginners-with-ceph | Source: Ubuntu
09:04 TR Bot; storage for beginners with Ceph | Ubuntu
09:06 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, August 25, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/irc-log-250822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/irc-log-250822/
09:07 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, August 25, 2022 | Techrights
09:14 loner; "Red Hat/ICBM: Don't say MASTER! DATZ RAYSIST"
09:15 loner; german language: Master is Meister, a master craftsmen, authorized to lecture an Apprentice (Lehrling)
09:15 loner; and the political nuance is only this, a slave (from sleep), mean, the Master craftsmen intends his Apprentice not to fall asleep while being lectured
09:15 starstreak_macos; !google test
09:15 TechrightsBot-tr; No Google results
09:15 starstreak_macos; !google poison tap water
09:15 TechrightsBot-tr; No Google results
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; google killed off this api ages ago
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; like a decade ago
09:16 starstreak_macos; lol
09:16 starstreak_macos; I was looking through the logs and found that being used in 2012
09:17 loner; another political spin of the Master-Apprentice relationship is portrayed with "The Apprentice" (Der Zauberlehrling)
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; slave is not from sleep
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; you pull that our of your behind
09:17 loner; it's a famous poem, the apprentice thinks he could practice magic himself alone without guidance from the master
09:17 loner; and the magic miracle the apprentice startet gets out of control
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; "late 13c., "person who is the chattel or property of another," from Old French esclave (13c.), from Medieval Latin Sclavus "slave" (source also of Italian schiavo, French esclave, Spanish esclavo), originally "Slav" (see Slav); so used in this secondary sense because of the many Slavs sold into slavery by conquering peoples."
09:18 loner; slave, sleep, schlaf
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.etymonline.com/word/slave
09:18 TR Bot; Etymology, origin and meaning of slave by etymonline
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; you make up nonsense
09:19 loner; the association is this, of lazy sleeper
09:19 loner; instead of learning, pupils/students fall asleep in in school
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 TR News; "Our joint investigation found an interconnected web of accounts on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and five other social media platforms that used deceptive tactics" https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:nj914nx9540/unheard-voice-tt.pdf |
09:20 TR News; "According to the report, Twitter and Meta removed a group of accounts from their platforms earlier this month, citing their platform manipulation and coordinated inauthentic behavior rules." https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/25/23322214/us-government-propaganda-campaign-twitter-facebook | Source: The Verge
09:20 TR Bot; The US government got caught using sock puppets to spread propaganda on social media - The Verge
09:20 TR News; "But in the era of the Big Lie, the unfounded theory of election rigging in 2020, the village has another and possibly more challenging mission." https://www.cyberscoop.com/defcon-voting-village-harri-hursti-election-fraud/ | Source: Scoop News Group
09:20 TR Bot; CON Voting Village takes on election conspiracies, disinformation - CyberScoop
09:20 TR News; "Since Russia spread disinformation on Facebook during the 2016 election" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/technology/google-search-misinformation.html | Source: New York Times
09:20 TR Bot; Google Looks to Vaccination to Combat Misinformation In Searches - The New York Times
09:20 loner; the historical wording isn't master and slave either, it is "patricians" and "plebejans" (plebs), which emerge within feudal socieites and the religiously established class society
09:21 loner; anyway, nowadays, religion is abandoned, and replaced with only this: money
09:21 TR News; "It turns out that these fears and misunderstandings of our eight-legged friends are reflected in the news." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/25/science/spiders-misinformation-rumors.html | Source: New York Times
09:21 TR Bot; Spiders Are Caught in a Global Web of Misinformation - The New York Times
09:22 loner; with another difference, a medieval age priest or city inhabitant (patrician), didn't distinguish themselves by money alone ("faith alone"), they distinguished by their _education_
09:22 loner; nowadays, it's money, and pseudo-intellectual habitus
09:22 TR News; "Surely not. Depriving our students of access to the full range of human experience in the name of protecting them only, ultimately, does them harm." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/rushdie-attack-underlines-value-teaching-challenging-books | Source: Times Higher Education
09:22 TR Bot; The Rushdie attack underlines the value of teaching challenging books | Times Higher Education (THE)
09:23 loner; with the circular argument, those with money are the smart ones, those with none are the stupids
09:24 TR News; "While literary writers in the U.S. increasingly face online threats, they rarely metastasize into actual physical attacks" https://text.npr.org/1119199533 | Source: NPR
09:24 TR Bot; Exiled writers reflect on freedom of speech in America in light of Rushdie attack
09:24 loner; that's the difficulty, with anglo-american and their "political science" (politics isn't science anyway): they haven't got the language and historical knowledge at least
09:24 loner; to base their argument upon
09:25 TR News; "I dont like the person. I dont think hes a very good person. I dont like him very much" https://deadline.com/2022/08/salman-rushdie-alleged-attacker-hadi-matar-read-two-pages-satanic-verses-1235096009/ | Source: Deadline
09:25 TR Bot; Rushdies Alleged Attacker Has Read 2 Pages Of Satanic Verses Deadline
09:27 *starstreak_macos has quit (Quit: Leaving)
09:27 TR News; "Today, we will celebrate Salman for what he has endured, but even more importantly, because of what he has engendered the stories, characters, metaphors and images" https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/salman-rushdie-new-york-rally-1.6557073 | Source: CBC
09:27 TR Bot; Rally for author Salman Rushdie draws hundreds of supporters in New York | CBC News
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; loner: it's not an anglo-saxon thing at all
09:29 TR News; "Impunity and Denial in the face of Extreme Violence against the Press Persists" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/journalist-killed-media-attacks-rise/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
09:29 TR Bot; Another journalist killed and attacks on media on the rise: report
09:29 TR News; "Reporters Tuomo Pietilaina and Laura Halmi, and the paper's acting manager at the time, Kalle Silfverberg, have denied wrongdoing" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/finnish-journalists-trial-revealing-defense-secrets-88833914 | Source: ABC
09:29 TR Bot; 3 Finnish journalists on trial for revealing defense secrets - ABC News
09:29 TR News; "He is the "alleged intellectual author of Margarito's murder" and head of a cell of the once-powerful Arellano Felix drug cartel" https://www.voanews.com/a/mexico-arrests-alleged-mastermind-in-journalist-s-killing-/6717450.html | Source: VOA News
09:29 TR Bot; Mexico Arrests Alleged Mastermind in Journalist's Killing
09:30 TR News; "When it comes to online trolls, Pakistan has ranked among the top five worst offenders monitored by the Coalition For Women in Journalism" https://www.voanews.com/a/political-journalists-in-pakistan-face-slew-of-attacks/6716818.html | Source: VOA News
09:30 TR Bot; Political Journalists in Pakistan Face Slew of Attacks
09:31 TR News; "Closing your laptop at 5 p.m. Doing only your assigned tasks. Spending more time with family." https://text.npr.org/1119343413 | Source: NPR
09:31 TR Bot; The term 'quiet quitting' is everywhere now. We want to hear your thoughts
09:31 TR News; "Chinas state media defended the countrys increasingly costly zero tolerance approach to Covid-19" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-25/chinese-state-media-defend-covid-zero-warn-against-lying-flat | Source: Bloomberg
09:31 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
09:32 TR News; "Chinas unemployment statistics are notoriously wrong, Solinger told VOA Mandarin." https://www.voanews.com/a/china-s-youth-unemployment-nearly-20-/6715736.html | Source: VOA News
09:32 TR Bot; Chinas Youth Unemployment Nearly 20%
09:32 TR News; "Chinas recently reported record-breaking 20% youth unemployment rate has obscured an equally worrying trend among its younger generation" https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stuck-in-an-ever-so-draining-rat-race-burnout-apathy-on-the-rise-rise-as-chinas-youth-face-bleak-job-market-11661209071 | Source: Market Watch
09:32 TR Bot; apathy on the rise rise as China's youth face bleak job market - MarketWatch
09:32 TR News; "They're reaping what they're sowing at the moment, and what they've sown for the last two years has not been great for the job market" https://www.southeastasianews.net/news/272665481/chinas-youth-unemployment-nearly-20 |
09:32 TR Bot; China's Youth Unemployment Nearly 20%
09:35 loner; schestowitz[TR]: the usurped anglo-saxon realm then, which is the dominant mind-set
09:46 TR News; "I have tuned in to two IANA Root KSK signing ceremonies this year." https://jamesg.blog/2022/08/22/root-ksk-google-calendars/ | Source: James G
09:46 TR Bot; Subscribe to IANA Root KSK signing and Google algorithm update events | James' Coffee Blog
09:46 TR News; "The update is that the cable landed in Cape Town, South Africa on the 8th of August." https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/08/google-subsea-cable-improves-internet-speeds-lowers-costs-reaches-south-africa/ | Source: Zimbabwe
09:46 TR Bot; Google's subsea cable meant to improve internet speeds and lower costs reaches South Africa - Techzim
09:46 TR News; "Via a subsidiary called CFE Telecomunicaciones e Internet para Todos (CFE Telecommunications and Internet for Everyone)" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/electricity-commission-launches-new-internet-service-prices-start-at-30-pesos/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
09:46 TR Bot; CFE launches mobile phone and internet; prices start at 30 pesos
09:46 TR News; iophk: apropos the CFE Telecommunications announcement, 4GB of data is not much with the bloat of the current web
09:52 TR News; "Free connectivity is now available at around 3,000 of the 12,000 payphones in Telstra's network." https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/free-wi-fi-at-telstra-payphones.html | Source: IT Wire
09:52 TR Bot; - Free Wi-Fi at Telstra payphones
09:52 TR News; [Old] "The second problem is more substantial. To the extent that keeping honest people honest involves any analytical thinking" https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2003/03/06/keeping-honest-people-honest/ |
09:53 TR Bot; Keeping Honest People Honest
09:55 TR News; https
09:55 TR News; https
09:56 TR News; "The lawsuit which is part of a new strategy by Lina Khan, the F.T.C. chair, to be more forward-looking in antitrust enforcement" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/technology/ftc-zuckerberg-suit.html | Source: New York Times
09:56 TR Bot; F.T.C. Agrees to Remove Zuckerberg as Defendant in Antitrust Suit - The New York Times
09:57 TR News; [Old] "But this is also technological nonsense. The program that checks to see whether other programs are approved by the manufacturer is also running on an untrusted adversary's computer" https://pluralistic.net/2022/07/25/can-you-hear-me-now/ | Source: CoryDoctorow
09:57 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 25 Jul 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
09:59 schestowitz[TR]; loner: you know where saxony is
09:59 schestowitz[TR]; it's asinine to suggest greedy is like a UK/US thing
09:59 TR News; "SD GUNDAM BATTLE ALLIANCE is a brand new release from ARTDINK and Bandai Namco Entertainment." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/sd-gundam-battle-alliance-works-out-of-the-box-on-steam-deck-and-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:59 TR Bot; GUNDAM BATTLE ALLIANCE works out of the box on Steam Deck and Linux | GamingOnLinux
10:00 TR News; "CodeWeavers, the company that works on Proton with Valve and supports Wine development, has announced the released of CrossOver 22.0.0." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/crossover-22-released-for-running-windows-apps-and-games-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:00 TR Bot; 22 released for running Windows apps and games on Linux | GamingOnLinux
10:03 TR News; "One Lonely Outpost is an upcoming sci-fi colonization life and farming sim that was crowdfunded on Kickstarter." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/one-lonely-outpost-gets-a-new-trailer-and-a-delay-until-2023/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:03 TR Bot; Lonely Outpost gets a new trailer and a delay until 2023 | GamingOnLinux
10:04 TR News; "Valve are now testing a new version of the Steam app for Android and iOS, which comes with a much more modern design and a QR code login system too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/valve-testing-new-mobile-steam-app-with-qr-codes-for-sign-ins/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:04 TR Bot; testing new mobile Steam app with QR codes for sign ins | GamingOnLinux
10:05 TR News; Well, strangulation bad https://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/man-jailed-for-34-months-for-strangulation-9270509/ unless you work for Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/trial-of-alex-graveley/
10:05 TR Bot; Spalding man Benjamin Flatters is jailed for intentionally strangling partner
10:05 TR Bot; Trial of Microsofts Serial Strangler, Who Also Manages GitHubs Copilot | Techrights
10:06 TR News; This is a crime https://www.lincs.police.uk/news/lincolnshire/news/2022/aug-2022/man-guilty-of-non-fatal-strangulation-offence-sentenced-to-34-months-in-prison/ but ask Microsoft... http://techrights.org/2022/08/11/microsoft-stranglers/
10:06 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.lincs.police.uk/news/lincolnshire/news/2022/aug-2022/man-guilty-of-non-fatal-strangulation-offence-sentenced-to-34-months-in-prison/ )
10:06 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXV Microsoft Employs Serial Strangler as a Manager, Running GitHub Copilot in Spite of Arrest for Assault on Women | Techrights
10:06 TR News; "Spider-Man Remastered is an absolutely awesome game and it's great on both Steam Deck and Linux desktop!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/spider-man-remastered-update-out-has-a-couple-steam-deck-fixes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:06 TR News; "This is the public once a month reminder to make sure your PC information is correct on your user profiles" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/update-pc-info-202208/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR News; "I had the pleasure of speaking to Brodie Robertson recently on the subject of Linux Gaming" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/check-out-my-appearance-with-brodie-on-tech-over-tea/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR Bot; Remastered update out, has a couple Steam Deck fixes | GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/update-pc-info-202208/ )
10:07 TR Bot; timed out after 10517 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/check-out-my-appearance-with-brodie-on-tech-over-tea/ )
10:07 TR News; (UPDATED): CodeWeavers CrossOver 22 for macOS Linux and ChromeOS has been released (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/CodeWeavers_CrossOver_22_for_macOS_Linux_and_ChromeOS_has_been_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/CodeWeavers_CrossOver_22_for_macOS_Linux_and_ChromeOS_has_been_.gmi
10:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines CodeWeavers CrossOver 22 for macOS Linux and ChromeOS has been released (UPDATED)
10:09 TR News; Mark Zuckerberg Answers to Facebooks Moderation of Controversial Content - Invidious https://yewtu.be/BN3PIGLDscQ
10:09 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://yewtu.be/BN3PIGLDscQ )
10:10 TR News; Non-fatal strangulation: Spalding man jailed for 34 months - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-62658837 Source: BillBC http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/trial-of-alex-graveley/ http://techrights.org/2022/08/11/microsoft-stranglers/
10:10 TR Bot; strangulation: Spalding man jailed for 34 months - BBC News
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:26 psydruid; https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/25/odroid-go-ultra-gaming-console-and-devkit-amlogic-s922x-soc/
10:26 TR Bot; ODROID-Go Ultra portable gaming console and devkit coming soon with Amlogic S922X SoC - CNX Software
10:48 s98259; :3
10:49 souseksi; Hello.
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; 111 dollars?
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; is that the one?
10:49 s98259; Hi :D
10:49 *s98259 hugs
10:49 TR News; "The western United States is, famously, in the grips of its worst megadrought in a millennium." https://www.propublica.org/article/colorado-river-water-shortage-jay-famiglietti | Source: Pro Publica
10:49 TR Bot; What the Colorado River Water Shortage Means for the U.S. ProPublica
10:53 TR News; "U.S. government has consistently lied about its war-making and imperialism" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/defining-disinformation-toward-an-anti-authoritarian-left/ | Source: Counter Punch
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10:53 TR Bot; Disinformation: Toward an Anti-Authoritarian Left - CounterPunch.org
10:55 TR News; DMCA and Microsoft again... DELETEGITHUB https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-app-developer-uses-dmca-to-remove-stolen-copy-from-github-220825/ | Source: Torrent Freak
10:55 TR Bot; App Developer Uses DMCA to Remove 'Stolen' Copy from GitHub * TorrentFreak
10:57 TR News; Instagram = FBInstagram = ZuckerBAG https://thedissenter.org/staff-from-us-prison-behind-vile-correctional-humor-instagram-page-says-whistleblower/ | Source: The Dissenter
10:57 TR Bot; Whistleblower Exposes 'Correctional Humor' Instagram Page
10:57 TR News; "Today, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights, Michelle Bachelet, met with Julian Assanges wife, Stella Assange, and Mr. Assanges Spanish lawyers" https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/the-un-high-commissioner-for-human-rights-michelle-bachelet-met-with-assanges-wife/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
10:57 TR Bot; The UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Michelle Bachelet, met with Assange's wife - Don't Extradite Assange
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 136.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.36
10:59 MinceR; 26 043009 < starstreak_macos> I took Mincer's advice and fixed my macbook (sort of)
10:59 MinceR; did you replace it with a real computer? :>
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11:04 techuser; matey did appear elsewhere, just to insult me over anti-RMS letter
11:10 techuser; also I wonder how did I "lie" when I did say a few times I did sign it, and that I did sign it because I hate FSF, because it became a big company.
11:19 *psydroid2 (~psydroid@h635kpe3hju7k.irc) has joined #techrights
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:21 psydruid; > 111 dollars?
11:21 psydruid; > is that the one?
11:21 psydruid; yes, it's much improved and just a little bit more expensive than the previous model
11:22 psydruid; > matey did appear elsewhere, just to insult me over anti-RMS letter
11:22 psydruid; that's not so nice, but I wouldn't be bothered too much
11:27 techuser; also I feel like I was "converted" into free software. My beliefs were affected, and I thought I'm dealing with a good thing, and I considering donating to FSF
11:27 techuser; eventually I realized these were just agents
11:27 techuser; GNU/Linux is being promoted by corporate people, e.g. "Microsoft Loves Linux"
11:27 psydroid2; that's true
11:28 psydroid2; it may have started out as a real thing, but now it's just corporate kowtowing
11:28 psydroid2; and the real free software movement, if there is any left, is to be found elsewhere
11:29 techuser; (I was trying to flee from Windows 10 spyware trend)
11:29 techuser; but I just fallen into another trap
11:29 psydroid2; I didn't realise it until a few years ago when I found out there was such a thing as systemd, which didn't function correctly and was this giant web of incomprehensible source code
11:30 psydroid2; because I couldn't spend much time on the ins and outs of free software due to my work
11:31 psydroid2; fleeing from Windows 10 is a good thing, but what is called free software nowadays isn't actually free anymore
11:31 psydroid2; it will take time for actual free software to rise again
11:31 psydroid2; if it is ever to rise again in the first place
11:32 psydroid2; insulting people for not realising or not joining in the quest for the one true idea of free software doesn't help with that
11:33 schestowitz[TR]; happened before
11:33 psydroid2; the seeds for this corporate takeover where planted when we were young or some of us weren't even born
11:33 MinceR; canceling people for being in the way of some suits doesn't help either
11:34 psydroid2; s/where/were/
11:36 TR News; (NEW): Games: SD GUNDAM BATTLE ALLIANCE, One Lonely Outpost, and More From Steam https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Games_SD_GUNDAM_BATTLE_ALLIANCE_One_Lonely_Outpost_and_More_Fro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Games_SD_GUNDAM_BATTLE_ALLIANCE_One_Lonely_Outpost_and_More_Fro.gmi
11:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: SD GUNDAM BATTLE ALLIANCE, One Lonely Outpost, and More From Steam
11:38 techuser; why would RMS even come back to already-corrupt FSF?
11:39 techuser; "sponsored"
11:39 psydroid2; as a mascott
11:39 techuser; sponsored by their enemies
11:39 techuser; yes, probably this
11:40 schestowitz[TR]; <techuser> why would RMS even come back to already-corrupt FSF?
11:40 techuser; people's old opinions are considered to be more important than they are
11:40 schestowitz[TR]; why would RMS protect something he FOUNDED?
11:40 schestowitz[TR]; Remember he ousted his ousters to some extent
11:40 psydroid2; his ideas were and are still good
11:41 psydroid2; they may just need some refinement for the modern era
11:41 psydroid2; and I don't think he's the right person to lead the free software movement into the future
11:41 psydroid2; but that doesn't mean he didn't do a lot of good things over the past 40-50 years
11:42 psydroid2; of course he did bad things too, but I don't consider those relevant in the context of free software
11:42 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: what you said sums that up
11:42 schestowitz[TR]; even he said some dumb things...
11:42 schestowitz[TR]; all people said something dumb at some point..
11:42 schestowitz[TR]; but they don't use that
11:42 schestowitz[TR]; they make fictional pretextx
11:42 schestowitz[TR]; and we know why or what for
11:43 schestowitz[TR]; and then they threaten anyone who supports him
11:43 schestowitz[TR]; so clearly it's not aboout him
11:43 schestowitz[TR]; they want to crush the mission
11:43 schestowitz[TR]; then you have the coup plotters, like, mjg59_ , coming here to IRC
11:43 schestowitz[TR]; like intel agents
11:43 schestowitz[TR]; stirring shit up
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11:44 MinceR; 26 123857 < techuser> why would RMS even come back to already-corrupt FSF?
11:44 MinceR; he didn't leave
11:44 MinceR; he just gave up
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; didn't give up
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; did not leave either
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; it was optics
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; to appease the lying mob
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; that now controls his irc channels
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; fsf and gnu etc.
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; spending years trying to appease some bad actors
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; like mjg59_
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; thinking that giving him an award for working for Microsoft would tturn out OK
11:48 techuser; also seems someone didn't read the intention fully, but it was about removing all FSF people, not jusr RMS. Maybe it helps.
11:48 techuser; *just
11:48 techuser; fuck evil FSF
11:48 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/
11:48 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights
11:48 techuser; at this point, it is better if it just disappeared
11:49 schestowitz[TR]; nope
11:49 techuser; the FSF
11:49 schestowitz[TR]; that's a really bad opinion
11:49 schestowitz[TR]; so you wipe out the guardian of GPL?
11:49 schestowitz[TR]; because you are angry?
11:49 techuser; are you happy with "or any later version" ticking time bomb?
11:49 schestowitz[TR]; maybe next year you will say make technrights disappear because someone posted a link to gamingonlinux in irc
11:50 schestowitz[TR]; if the tolerance threshold is that low
11:50 schestowitz[TR]; and meanwhily uo use proprietary games
11:50 schestowitz[TR]; gameZ
11:50 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: I don't think you realise what that means
11:50 techuser; once FSF is hopeless, GPLv4 could appear
11:51 techuser; malicioius license
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; if you license it GPLv3 (OR LATER)
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11:51 techuser; *malicious
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; and then the FSS becomes anti-GPL
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; You can change to GPLv3 only
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; leah exaggerated this threat
11:51 techuser; but not for the old versions
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: what licnece do you like?
11:51 techuser; and not if you are already dead
11:51 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, you don't even code
11:52 techuser; WTFPL
11:52 schestowitz[TR]; so you say,
11:52 schestowitz[TR]; kill tghe FSF
11:52 schestowitz[TR]; let it die
11:52 schestowitz[TR]; because... GPLv3 or LATER?
11:52 MinceR; 26 124828 < techuser> also seems someone didn't read the intention fully, but it was about removing all FSF people, not jusr RMS. Maybe it helps.
11:52 MinceR; seems like someone didn't read the letter fully
11:53 techuser; I did just side with SJWs because I thought it helps
11:53 techuser; not because of this, because corporations slowly make it evil
11:53 techuser; or not so slowly
11:53 MinceR; SJWs are already evil and are already in cahoots with corporations
11:54 techuser; if I can make my enemy help me, why not
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; help you how?
11:54 schestowitz[TR]; destroy FSF?
11:54 techuser; destroy some companies
11:55 schestowitz[TR]; you are the one helping your enemy
11:55 techuser; FSF or whatever
11:55 schestowitz[TR]; fsf is NOT a company
11:55 schestowitz[TR]; no more than techrights is a company
11:55 techuser; is techrights registered somewhere?
11:55 techuser; a trademark or whatever
11:55 schestowitz[TR]; no
11:56 techuser; Libera.Chat is, iirc. And this thing killed freenode, but they don't learn.
11:56 TR News; Economy https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/you-cant-fix-the-economy-by-hurting-people/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:56 TR Bot; Cant Fix the Economy by Hurting People - CounterPunch.org
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; techyour argument against fsf is not coherent
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; you describe the fsf in terms of what the fsf is against
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; because what the fsf is against is TRYING to hijack fsf
11:57 schestowitz[TR]; so you say, kill the FSF
11:58 schestowitz[TR]; kill what the companies attack
11:58 schestowitz[TR]; by joining their troops
11:58 TR News; Student Debt Crushes Black Women https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/25/freedom_dreams_documentary_debt_crushes_black | Source: Democracy Now
11:58 TR Bot; Freedom Dreams: How Student Debt Crushes Black Women & Why Debt Relief Would Benefit Everyone | Democracy Now!
11:58 TR News; Cancel It All https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/25/biden_student_debt_forgiveness_stepping_stone | Source: Democracy Now
11:58 TR Bot; Cancel It All: Debt Collectives Astra Taylor on Biden Plan & Need for Full Student Debt Relief | Democracy Now!
11:59 TR News; "Senior Trump administration officials undermined public health experts because they believed doing so would benefit the former president politically." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/house-report-shows-trump-deliberately-and-repeatedly-undermined-covid-19-response and Biden downplays it
11:59 TR Bot; House Report Shows Trump 'Deliberately and Repeatedly' Undermined Covid-19 Response
11:59 TR News; "Evaluating the performance of 3D printers and component upgrades is a more difficult than it may seem at first glance" https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/objective-hotend-performance-measurement-is-hard/ | Source: Hackaday
11:59 TR Bot; Hotend Performance Measurement Is Hard | Hackaday
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: where did you even see matey recently?
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; no link was given
12:00 techuser; StardustNetwork
12:00 techuser; irc.stardust.cx/+6697 #coding
12:00 TR News; muckrights-sans-merde
12:00 techuser; with nickname ahoy
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; ^that's where?
12:00 techuser; he just appeared, said that I'm a bad person because I signed the letter, and disappeared
12:00 schestowitz[TR]; ok, so maybe someone upset him
12:02 TR News; "In many ball sports like golf, football and tennis, controlling the balls spin is an important skill." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/a-self-spinning-tennis-ball-to-surprise-your-opponent/ | Source: Hackaday
12:02 TR Bot; Self-Spinning Tennis Ball To Surprise Your Opponent | Hackaday
12:03 TR News; Microsoft Pelosi promotes war https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/how-nancy-pelosi-used-feminism-to-play-the-isolationist-right/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:03 TR Bot; Nancy Pelosi Used "Feminism" to Play the "Isolationist" Right - CounterPunch.org
12:03 TR News; Lithium https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/25/why-lithium-power-politics-are-playing-out-very-differently-in-chile-and-bolivia/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:03 TR Bot; Lithium Power Politics Are Playing Out Very Differently in Chile and Bolivia scheerpost.com
12:03 techuser; anyway, at the moment of signing my thoughts were "why should free software movement be linked to a suspicious company?"
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; which one?
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; the one that started the petition?
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; IBM
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; so you helped IBM?
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; to attack FSF?
12:04 techuser; FSF. I think I thought of it as a company.
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; what does it sell?
12:05 techuser; iirc it does something in fact
12:05 techuser; I will try to find it
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; ok
12:05 TR News; Social control media https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/25/how-one-spook-run-london-college-department-is-training-the-worlds-social-media-managers/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:05 TR Bot; One Spook-Run London College Department is Training the Worlds Social Media Managers scheerpost.com
12:05 techuser; wasn't there FSF shop or donation rewards?
12:05 TR News; "India Walton and Sam Rosenthal examine Joe Biden's student debt forgiveness plan and find it wanting" https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/25/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-is-a-drop-in-the-bucket/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:05 TR Bot; Student Loan Forgiveness Is a Drop in the Bucket scheerpost.com
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: does the FSF exist to sell stuff in a shop?
12:06 techuser; probably not
12:06 techuser; but to collect donations? maybe
12:06 TR News; "Clearing House axed two years after we revealed controversial unit was vetting Freedom of Information requests." https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/25/governments-orwellian-unit-to-be-disbanded-after-opendemocracy-revelations/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:06 TR Bot; Orwellian Unit To Be Disbanded After openDemocracy Revelations scheerpost.com
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; so the elephant charoties we donated to today are corporations?
12:07 schestowitz[TR]; sheldrick and The Herd?
12:08 TR News; "Orbn has declared war on liberal democracy and in doing so appeals not only to anti-communists, right-wing Christians, nativists, and homophobes" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/the-scourge-of-fascist-politics-and-the-rise-of-white-nationalism-from-orban-to-desantis/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:08 TR Bot; Scourge of Fascist Politics and the Rise of White Nationalism from Orbn to DeSantis - CounterPunch.org
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ^
12:08 techuser; no idea
12:08 schestowitz[TR]; ere your parents a corporation?
12:09 schestowitz[TR]; *are
12:09 loner; ever visited hungary at least once before accusing them of whatever you're accusing them?
12:09 psydroid2; I think the FSF can continue to exist and there is no reason to wish it dead
12:09 psydroid2; you can just not pay attention and donate to it
12:09 loner; visted hungery, 25 years ago, Balaton youth camp
12:09 psydroid2; if it can't sustain itself it will wither away by itself
12:10 s98259; :3
12:10 loner; and Hungarian cuisine, it's where Letscho and Paprika come from
12:10 techuser; do you mean whether they work for a corporation? They don't.
12:10 techuser; I have no idea about their intentions
12:10 loner; is hungary really that bad? i don't believe if.
12:10 loner; it
12:11 psydroid2; I was in Budapest slightly over 5 years ago
12:12 techuser; psydroid2: need to be sure my money won't be used to make me kill myself eventually, or at least make me sad. Applicable for any entity.
12:13 loner; "The Scourge of Fascist Politics and the Rise of White Nationalism from Orban ..."
12:13 loner; all i know, within EU, Schengen-Agreement is tied to border-protection, and this is what Hungary did
12:13 loner; which isn't Orban, it's EU-contracts to do so
12:14 loner; and what else? free press? Orban himself tested it, visiting a Kiosk and asked for opposition news-papers... all there... so what?
12:15 loner; often then, the LGBTQ issue is dicusses, and this is a suspicion i have, because it's similar almost everywhere
12:15 loner; the urban/metropolitan elite are, often, far less hysterical about it than the ordinary population
12:16 loner; that's why, Kremlin-news such as Russia-Today broadcast documentary about LGBTQ topics, which are, liberal
12:16 loner; nonetheless, i wouldn't doubt minorities face rough confrontations outside the educated metropolitan elite, in Russia
12:17 loner; or wherever else
12:18 loner; and guys such as Orban, don't know what he thinks in private, couldn't openly agitate for a liberal position, _without_ loosing support in the population
12:18 loner; similar situation with CDU in germany, among whom various homosexual politicians made carreer, it wasn't an issue among the metropolitan elite
12:18 loner; it's an issue for politicians to appeal liberal towards their voters
12:19 TR News; Green [sic] Energy https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/green-energys-threat-to-the-desert-west/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:19 TR Bot; Energy's Threat to the Desert West - CounterPunch.org
12:19 loner; if the voters aren't, liberal
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 TR News; Price of insulin https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/whatever-happened-to-the-public-option-and-the-35-insulin-cap/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:20 TR Bot; Happened to the Public Option and the $35 Insulin Cap? - CounterPunch.org
12:20 loner; even among the German extremist right-wing (which is subverted controlled-opposition anyway), the political prominence isn't that much concerned, about homosxuality for example
12:21 TR News; Fascism https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/only-fools-count-on-capital-to-stop-late-fascism/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:21 TR Bot; Fools Count on Capital to Stop Late Fascism - CounterPunch.org
12:21 loner; it's the ordinary population and voters who are
12:21 loner; "The Scourge of Fascist Politics and the Rise of White Nationalism from Orban ..."
12:21 TR News; Student Debt https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/bidens-bifurcated-student-debt-cancelation-plan/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:21 TR Bot; Bifurcated Student Debt Cancelation Plan - CounterPunch.org
12:21 loner; anyway, ever visited Hungary or talked to anyone there?
12:22 loner; ever visited Russia, talked to Russians or Ukrainians or whoever?
12:24 loner; btw. even Nazi party didn't bother with their SA storm troop leader (Roehm Ernst) living a public homosexual live-style
12:25 loner; it was the political opposition to the Nazi party who defamed Roehm for his homosexuality, to capitalize upon
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; haha
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; so you say nazis were pro-gay
12:25 loner; yes, this is historical undisputed _facts_
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; and those who oppose the nazis who were anti-gay
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; I guess the nazis gassed gays because they lovem them?
12:26 loner; no, i don't say Nazis were pro-gay, they idealized various greek ideals
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; maybe the critics of hitler pointed out the hypocrisy
12:26 loner; and too the nazis jailed homosexuals, many, males that was, far less females ever were sent to prison, side note only
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12:26 schestowitz[TR]; you make too many excuses for hitler
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; and it's sad to say the least
12:27 loner; however, Hitlers best buddy, Roehm, was gay, yes, and Hitler disposed him, because the opposition "social democrats" fueled an anti-gay campaign against Roehm
12:27 TR News; Student Debt https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/25/bidens-student-debt-plan-important-step-towards-narrowing-racial-wealth-divide | Source: Common Dreams
12:27 TR Bot; Opinion | Biden's Student Debt Plan Is an Important Step Towards Narrowing the Racial Wealth Divide | Sarah Anderson
12:27 loner; you know, Soldiers, sozializing with each other... this is how most young men at that time grew up
12:28 loner; anyway
12:29 loner; often i am fare more sceptical about the pro-gay political agitators, simply because, it's a private issue (within legal boundaries and yout-protection)
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/nazi-persecution/gay-people/
12:29 TR Bot; Holocaust Memorial Day Trust | Gay people
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; you need to read up on things
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; all this hitler apologism isn't just off-topi
12:29 loner; it's not the duty of politicians to decide about pro or anti gay whatever, that's none of their business
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's an embarassmment to this channel
12:30 loner; schestowitz[TR]: you're an embarassement with your lack of knowledge of historical facts
12:30 loner; Hitler didn't dispose Roehm because Roehm was gay
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; sigh
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; so hitler liked one nazi gay man
12:30 loner; Roehm was disposed, because "social demcrats" fueled a defamation campaign against Roehm due to his homosexuality, which Hitler did not bother with before at all
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; hence, all the other victims don't exist?
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, it's off-topic
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; go to some forum of relevant
12:31 loner; never said this
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; if it's legal in your country
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; (it would not be)
12:31 loner; anyway, it was almost exclusively males who were jailed for homosexuality, rarely ever if at all females
12:31 loner; that's why, the "feminist" interpretation of historical facts is, outrageous
12:32 techuser; iirc leah was on techrights. Did she disappear?
12:32 TR News; Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/25/enough-enough-declares-sanders-after-nlrb-says-starbucks-targeted-union-workers | Source: Common Dreams
12:32 TR Bot; 'Enough Is Enough,' Declares Sanders After NLRB Says Starbucks Targeted Union Workers
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; I've not seen anything from libreboot in months
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; maybe hiatus again
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; is leah in another network?
12:33 techuser; no idea
12:33 loner; "The Scourge of Fascist Politics and the Rise of White Nationalism from Orban ..."
12:33 loner; ever visited Hungary before writing this?
12:34 loner; this is the question i have.
12:34 loner; and after writing this, not sure how i would welcome the author of such scriblings.
12:35 techuser; seems she is on Libera.Chat
12:36 loner; besides, if this argument was focussing on the lgbtq perspective, this is the right-wing hooligan perspective
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; * freenode/user/schestowitz :is now your displayed host
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; * leah :No such nick
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; * [leah] End of WHOIS list.
12:36 loner; among the right-wing hooligans, the percentage of homosexuals is relatively high btw.
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12:37 loner; so, what's their grievance with LGBTQ? the right-wingers do not reject homosexuality itself as such, the reject the femalish cowardice attitude, they reject weakness
12:37 loner; their ideal is strength, honor and all this, which isn't compatible with their interpretation of homosexuality
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; source: a local pub
12:38 loner; since there is males, who are gay, towards males... among them
12:38 loner; and the source is reality
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; source: realy
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; which page?
12:38 techuser; schestowitz[TR]: you do access freenode
12:38 techuser; not Libera.Chat
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; one client of mine still logs there
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; in case people go to the old network
12:39 loner; another peculiarity among the right-wingers is their attitude towards "betrayal"
12:39 techuser; some people dislike LGBT because they can't reproduce
12:40 loner; of whatever ideals they have, and practice secretly
12:40 techuser; and so possible depopulation as a result of it getting more widespread
12:41 loner; as long as their are prisons and military to incarcerate males, homosexuality will exist
12:41 loner; if you want to consider this an ideal or not, that's none of my concerns
12:42 loner; i have an opinion, about this, to oppress young males, extort and exploit them in military, and killing millios of them
12:42 loner; which is, history
12:42 loner; and another reason why, when this type of "idealism" was objected to among right-wingers
12:42 loner; because, some of them do know history at least
12:43 loner; *there
12:43 techuser; I don't know with whom I side with
12:43 techuser; I may be a double agent
12:43 techuser; doublethink
12:43 techuser; both love and hate at the same time
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12:44 schestowitz[TR]; what does all this have to do with tech anyway?
12:44 loner; another moment when the gay issue escalated among right-wing was, when an "ideal" was perpetuated
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; one nazi sympathiser patryingh nazis as homosexuals' friend
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; loner: you are full of dreck
12:45 loner; such as, if males fuck each other, they wouldn't need to worry about family at home anymore, because they had no children
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: <techuser> I may be a double agent
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; "may be"
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; double agent means something else
12:45 techuser; cuddlybear66: children topic?
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's not a split personality/emotion thing
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's when you work for two opposing orgs
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; like if you work for Microsoft
12:46 loner; and serve in military, as solider, turning gay, to optimize their social utility
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; and also enter FSF board
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; like mjg59_ did
12:46 techuser; are condoms expensive, btw?
12:46 techuser; generally
12:47 loner; another problem i have, with adoptions of children by LGBTQ... do you really think this will benefit gay males?
12:47 techuser; so that there are many "accidental" families
12:47 loner; it's the ultimate lesbian dream i would say... to adopt children.... this is why i reject this idea
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; so go say that in another channel
12:47 techuser; abolish parenthood, release the children
12:47 loner; if feminist lesbian want to expose fathers from the family entirely, and simply adopt children
12:47 loner; *dispose
12:48 techuser; if they no longer reproduce, ok
12:48 loner; that's the "multi-culti" "patchwork" "family" "ideal" of the...
12:48 loner; theirs
12:48 techuser; we don't need to have more humans on earth
12:48 loner; males turn gay, to serve in military and working cattle...
12:48 loner; that's no joke
12:49 TR News; (NEW): My open source journey from user to contributor to CTO https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/My_open_source_journey_from_user_to_contributor_to_CTO.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/My_open_source_journey_from_user_to_contributor_to_CTO.gmi
12:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines My open source journey from user to contributor to CTO"
12:49 loner; among catholics in germany, some catholic priests dared to raise some objections to this feminist gaga
12:49 loner; FATHERS HAVE A RIGHT TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN
12:49 techuser; unless they raise defective children
12:49 techuser; what for children with no fathers?
12:50 techuser; I mean no alive father, or abusive one
12:50 TR News; A reminder that as a US citizen Torvalds was in fact approached by the NSA (this is still applicable and relevant; the Linux Foundation even hired CxO-level managers who had worked for James Clapper) http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/linus-torvalds-on-backdoor-in-linux/
12:50 TR Bot; Humour as a Non-Answer | Techrights
12:50 loner; it's a toxic argument among "LGBTQ" (can't place as many quotes as sarcastic it is) to insist on adopting children
12:50 TR News; A lot of numbers (or visible counters like views, subscribers etc.) in YouTube are basically fake and Google tolerates this because it gives shareholders a false sense of impact and financial viability http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/faketube/
12:50 TR Bot; Not Just Twitter: YouTube is Failing, Flailing, and Tolerating Clickfraud (Bot Activity) in Order to Fake Its Size (Audience Magnitude) | Techrights
12:50 loner; do you really think, it would be gay males, fathers, who adopted children?
12:51 TR News; Government policy: you dont need no stinkin updates. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/26/the-absurdity-of-uk-governments-covid-19-data-disclosures-deaths-2-3-times-higher-but-updatesdata-demoted-from-daily-to-weekly/
12:51 TR Bot; Blog Archive The Absurdity of UK Governments COVID-19 Data Disclosures (Deaths 2-3 Times Higher, But Updates/Data Demoted From Daily to Weekly)
12:51 loner; i can tell you what this type of "social engineering" realy is
12:51 loner; and it's far worse than a "conservative" family ideal
12:51 TR News; </li>
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12:52 TR News; The British software engineer Tim Berners-Lee explained why its important to put data on the Web. The NHS had moved away from that in recent months. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/26/open-data/
12:52 TR Bot; Blog Archive UK Government Should Get Back to Releasing COVID-19 Data Every Day, Not (Barely) Every Week
12:52 loner; and that's why i do object to the "LGBTQ" "ideal" of lifestyle, because children, and the fathers have a right, children to grow up with their father, and a father to raise their children
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; loner: take your dreck to another channel
12:53 loner; however, nowadays this is "toxic masculinity"? pardon what? and next "Rise of White Nationalism"?
12:53 loner; schestowitz[TR]: shut up
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; no, you
12:53 techuser; schestowitz[TR]: other channels may have less people on them
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; you are lying for nazis
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; in a technical channel
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: he got banned from some channels/networks
12:54 techuser; is it technical? I see non-technical talks all the time
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; and he tries to use thr audience here to spread lies
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: because of people who derail the topic or change it
12:54 techuser; need to tell what places exactly
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; earlier we spoke about fsf
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; that was at least on topic
12:55 techuser; there are hostile SJWs everywhere, who will ban anyone who says something "wrong" about LGBT, BLM, Ukraine, and other topics
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; today michael aggi is just interjecting ranjts about his country not being nazi enough anymore
12:55 techuser; I think pedophilia will be in this list soon too
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: depends on the channel and context
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86 posts war updates here
12:56 schestowitz[TR]; but that does not make the whole cchannel about the war
12:56 schestowitz[TR]; his message is also antiwar
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12:56 s98259; Hi :3
12:56 schestowitz[TR]; 0/
12:56 techuser; hi
12:57 s98259; techuser: Oh dear I hope with don't end up with Anonymous here...
12:57 techuser; Anonymous did say he won't join here
12:58 s98259; Good
12:58 techuser; because /motd has a rule:
12:58 techuser; motd
12:58 TR News; Gulag https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/25/big-win-google-search-and-maps-will-now-say-if-clinics-provide-abortions | Source: Common Dreams
12:58 techuser; > we trust people to be civil and the debates to be constructive.
12:58 TR Bot; 'Big Win': Google Search and Maps Will Now Say If Clinics Provide Abortions
12:58 s98259; Cause seriously he has no boundaries, he upset a "father of a daughter" parent last night in #winning, nish to be exact.
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 118.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.61
13:00 s98259; How would you or anyone else here like it if they mentioned their 14 year old daughter and the next thing some dude asks to see her pussy?
13:00 s98259; I'm sure you would be pretty shocked even in a damn free speech channel.
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; it's free speech but pedophilia
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; and pedophilia is a crime
13:00 loner; child abuse is a crime
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; in the past, some Microsoft pedo came here
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; tried to suppress our site
13:01 loner; "pedophilia" in this contextis an euphemism
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; and failed
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; years later he was arrested
13:01 s98259; Well if he does turn up, I'll leave him to it cause "free speech" but hey doesn't mean I need to be happy about it, I love the current atmosphere.
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; I reported a pedophile to the TSA/DHS some years ago
13:02 s98259; Plus this stuff harms people...
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; he no longer works there
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13:03 TR News; Police Algorithms https://www.thenation.com/article/society/police-algorithms-artificial-intelligence/ | Source: The Nation
13:03 TR Bot; Defund the Police Algorithms | The Nation
13:03 s98259; The guy can't think.
13:03 TR News; Censored https://www.thenation.com/article/society/censored/ | Source: The Nation
13:03 TR Bot; Censored! | The Nation
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13:04 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: He thinks sex can be fun for kids and therefore as a result doesn't need to be forced...
13:04 TR News; "Ratcheting screwdrivers can help you work faster, even if their bulk means theyre not the best option for working in tight spaces" https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/printable-one-way-driver-skips-ratchet-for-a-clutch/ | Source: Hackaday
13:04 TR Bot; One-Way Driver Skips Ratchet For A Clutch | Hackaday
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: don't know who that's about..,. don't care tbh
13:04 s98259; Sure
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; let's focus on the topic here
13:04 s98259; Yeah
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; if some scum comes here, we can deal with it somehow
13:05 s98259; Ah
13:06 TR News; >Misinformation/Disinformation: RIP Reliable Sources https://fair.org/home/rip-reliable-sources-and-corporate-medias-willingness-to-examine-itself/ | Source: FAIR
13:06 TR Bot; RIP Reliable Sourcesand Corporate Media's Willingness to Examine Itself - FAIR
13:07 TR News; Gulag working with cops https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/how-youtubes-partnership-londons-police-force-censoring-uks-drill-music | Source: EFF
13:07 TR Bot; How YouTubes Partnership with Londons Police Force is Censoring UK Drill Music | Electronic Frontier Foundation
13:08 TR News; (NEW): Spotify TUI Spotify client for the terminal https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Spotify_TUI_Spotify_client_for_the_terminal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Spotify_TUI_Spotify_client_for_the_terminal.gmi
13:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Spotify TUI Spotify client for the terminal
13:08 techuser; techrights-news: is it still DRMd?
13:09 TR News; (NEW): Want to Help Improve GNOME? This New Tool Gives You the Chance!" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Want_to_Help_Improve_GNOME_This_New_Tool_Gives_You_the_Chance.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Want_to_Help_Improve_GNOME_This_New_Tool_Gives_You_the_Chance.gmi
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13:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Strictly Confined MicroK8s"
13:10 techuser; oh, > But third-party clients are available for Spotify Premium users. Spotify blocks API access to their audio for non-premium members.
13:10 techuser; clickbait?
13:10 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Android_Leftovers.gmi
13:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
13:11 loner; that's the advertisement of LGBTQ towards healthy males: turn gay, become working cattly and military canon fudder
13:11 techuser; yes, probably clickbait
13:11 loner; not gay yet? we got some porn for you, because it's liberal
13:12 techuser; am I "healthy" if I don't really want to have sex with real people?
13:12 loner; become gay, enjoy, don't worry about family and children anymore, "LGBTQ" lesbians will adopt children for the "patchwork families" of theirs
13:12 loner; gay males, have fun, no need to worry about family and children anymore, you're work-load will be optmized to 80hours/week
13:13 loner; for the "social ecological justice" of the feminist gaga wonder land
13:13 techuser; loner: btw are you on any other IRC networks?
13:13 loner; which was the moment when, some right-wingers turned mad i think
13:13 techuser; gtg soon and idk if they ban you
13:14 loner; truth can't be banned
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13:17 loner; in more conservative countries, the objection was children shouldn't be exposed to pornography
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; <techuser> techrights-news: is it still DRMd?
13:17 loner; for reasons which are, undisputable, facts.
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; rianne posted that link
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; I don't like spotify or all those drm platforms
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; for some people, like gamers, it's a barrier
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; so the idea some have, RMS included, maybe if they come over, they'll turn to aother OS
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; or rather,
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; they are going to use that DRM regardless
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; but if they use it not on WIndows, maybe better
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; loner: you are still off topic
13:19 loner; schestowitz[TR]: i do not object to pornography on the internet
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13:19 loner; i object to children being exposed to it
13:19 *souseksi (~souseksi@298fydj2ws4tc.irc) has joined #techrights
13:19 loner; and the LGBTQ flavors of this, aren't any exception to this
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 techuser; schestowitz[TR]: I know one person who has "gamer" in his nickname (Luis64_gamer)
13:20 loner; and this is what Russian/Hungarian etc. objection was, particular pornography and children being exposed to it
13:20 schestowitz[TR]; kids found prn even before the www
13:20 schestowitz[TR]; pr0n
13:21 techuser; I don't know if I bring him here again, but he appears elsewhere almost each day, when it is afternoon in Peruan (UTC-5) time
13:21 techuser; on other IRC networks
13:21 loner; in the end, in this "liberal" feminist/lgbtq gaga wonderland, i wouldn't want to raise children anymore
13:21 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: Yep
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; that's a bullshit trope
13:21 loner; there's no place for fathers anymore, that's all "toxic masculinity" nowadays, "fascist", "white nationalist" and whatnot
13:22 techuser; loner: agreed
13:22 schestowitz[TR]; kids found pr0n even before the Net
13:22 schestowitz[TR]; and before what you call "feminist/lgbtq".. something
13:22 loner; how would call it?
13:22 schestowitz[TR]; you are trying to connect queers to pedophilia
13:22 schestowitz[TR]; that's a common smear
13:22 techuser; what is good/bad about porn?
13:22 schestowitz[TR]; to make it sound like they harm society and kids
13:22 loner; i mean, some particular extremist political positions, are rather common among them
13:22 techuser; sex isn't the same as it looks in porn
13:23 loner; "combat inequality" add this into the mix of propaganda goo
13:23 techuser; can tell watchers about this
13:23 loner; for "social ecological justice"... males being nothing more than working cattle and miliary cannon fudder ?
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; kids used to find tapes
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; a
13:23 loner; if this is the "progressive" ideal, go for it
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; and share these
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; prior to this, literature sand magazines
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; kids finding pr0n is a very old thing
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; and isn't possible to prevent
13:24 loner; sure, they go after kids first, they're far easier "sociall engineered" for this type of "ideal"
13:24 s98259; loner: He wasn't answering your questions, he was telling you that you are still off topic.
13:25 s98259; Oh it moved on...
13:25 s98259; Damn my scollback was up in the air!
13:25 s98259; Right I'm back on track now... damn!
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; longer got banned in some places
13:25 techuser; I was partially brainwashed
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; this is his outlet now
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; like daemonFC
13:25 techuser; now I have no idea with whom to side with
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; also banned in places
13:26 loner; any opposition to the mentioned "ideal" is totally silenced nowadays
13:26 loner; yes
13:27 techuser; I'm hated by everyone eventually, just takes time until they realize I'm not their friend
13:27 TR News; (NEW): Open source FPGA dev board offers custom RISC-V development environment https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Open_source_FPGA_dev_board_offers_custom_RISC_V_development_env.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Open_source_FPGA_dev_board_offers_custom_RISC_V_development_env.gmi
13:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open source FPGA dev board offers custom RISC-V development environment
13:27 loner; come on... germany... lowest birth rate globally?
13:27 loner; discuss... what's this?
13:27 loner; and then they agitate for a homosexual life-style?
13:27 schestowitz[TR]; false
13:27 schestowitz[TR]; false by far
13:27 schestowitz[TR]; singapore is among the lowest
13:27 schestowitz[TR]; 0.75 iirc
13:27 techuser; probably not by "everyone", but by most people
13:28 techuser; afk, pinging cuddlybear66 once again on the children topic
13:28 loner; schestowitz[TR]: singapore belongs to china
13:28 s98259; Yeah, "everyone" is a bit far fetched. :D
13:28 schestowitz[TR]; like germany belongs to russia
13:28 schestowitz[TR]; singapore is not even ethnically chinese, many malay and indian
13:28 loner; couldn't be worse than USA 2020 tbh
13:29 s98259; Did I read somewhere in here "Grouping LGBT and Pedophilia"? o.O
13:29 loner; USA 1990, that's something else
13:29 s98259; DaFuQ?
13:29 schestowitz[TR]; germany isn't even on the low scale of birth rates in europe
13:29 s98259; Which sick mind did that?!
13:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's just below average
13:29 loner; schestowitz[TR]: it's the lowest
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13:29 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: the right wing
13:29 s98259; :/
13:29 schestowitz[TR]; esp. int he US
13:29 loner; and if the reproductive rate of immigrants is excluded from the supposedly "german" one...
13:29 s98259; Pfft
13:30 schestowitz[TR]; lockeanarchist: now you throw some bigotry to the mix
13:30 psydroid2; techuser, I would say to side with yourself, as you're the only person you can trust
13:30 loner; whatever they do, it's a weird ideal of "peaceful coexistence", to eradicate thousands years of history and culture and language
13:30 loner; in favor, of whatever this is nowadays
13:31 loner; and i don't care, how you namecall this
13:31 loner; it's not only foreign to me, it's hostile and murderous
13:31 *souseksi has quit (connection closed)
13:31 techuser; s98259: yes, I think pedophilia will be made new normal eventually
13:31 *souseksi (~souseksi@298fydj2ws4tc.irc) has joined #techrights
13:32 techuser; maybe as a sexual orientation
13:32 TR News; Pi Pico https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/pi-pico-gives-its-life-for-overclocking/ | Source: Hackaday
13:32 TR Bot; Pico Gives Its Life For Overclocking | Hackaday
13:32 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: Do you think pedophilia will be made normal eventually?
13:32 TR News; Cancel It All https://truthout.org/video/cancel-it-all-an-interview-with-astra-taylor-on-the-call-for-full-debt-relief/ | Source: TruthOut
13:32 TR Bot; Cancel It All: An Interview With Astra Taylor on the Call for Full Debt Relief
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: no
13:32 loner; schestowitz[TR]: sadism?
13:32 s98259; I thought that too schestowitz[TR]
13:32 s98259; but er...
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; maybe it was worse in the disstance past
13:32 s98259; thanks for validating :D
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; we're moving towards harsher enforcement
13:33 loner; is this what you refer to with "pedophilia"?
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; *distant past
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; that upsets some peolple
13:33 loner; are fathers still allowed to hug their children?
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; esp. perverts
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; so all the better if we enforce better
13:33 s98259; loner: Why wouldn't they be? :D
13:33 loner; or is it all "toxic masculinity" perverts then?
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; the problem right now si sleective enforcement
13:34 cuddlybear66; hii
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; as you can see with espteingate
13:34 loner; schestowitz[TR]: white nationalist racist whatever...
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; like, how they let "prince" andre off the hook
13:34 s98259; Why would a parent not be allowed to hug their child?
13:34 souseksi; cuddlybear66: Hello.
13:34 s98259; Why would the world start viewing it as wrong for a father to hug their child?
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; and bill gates is prfetending all his critics are cranks and nuts
13:34 techuser; hi
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; parents cannot spank kids, either
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; so they discipline them some other way
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes worse even
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; like locking them like dogs
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; spank on the bum - child abuse
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; lock a kid inside a small room for a day= OK
13:36 TR News; Student Debt https://truthout.org/articles/student-debt-activists-say-much-more-is-needed-including-free-college/ | Source: TruthOut
13:36 TR Bot; Student Debt Activists Say Much More Is Needed -- Including Free College
13:36 s98259; Actually I got some very harsh corporal punishments that did nothing but made me suffer so I agree with anti-corporal punishment laws.
13:36 s98259; Though yes things like being made to stand at a wall made me want to just "get it over and done with" and so I would want the strap instead.
13:36 schestowitz[TR]; both suck
13:36 schestowitz[TR]; and are bad
13:36 schestowitz[TR]; raising kids is no fun these days
13:36 schestowitz[TR]; they cost a lot
13:36 s98259; I think talking to a child and supporting them is the way to get them to behave.
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; the gov. no longer helps
13:37 techuser; parents suck
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; and you have no control
13:37 techuser; kill them
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; harsh
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: you are optimistic
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; kids don't always behave
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; ane you cannot talk sense to them
13:38 techuser; cuddlybear66 is also optimistic
13:38 s98259; Agreed but the belt or standing a the wall doesn't make them behave any better, schestowitz[TR]
13:38 TR News; Multispectral Imaging System Built With Raspberry Pi https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/multispectral-imaging-system-built-with-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Hackaday
13:38 TR Bot; Imaging System Built With Raspberry Pi | Hackaday
13:38 s98259; At least talking to a child and supporting them isn't torture though.
13:38 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: that's why I said both are bad
13:38 cuddlybear66; I don't believe in punishing kids...
13:38 schestowitz[TR]; it wasn't "I choose this over this"
13:38 cuddlybear66; u can teach them using other ways
13:39 s98259; Yep
13:39 *s98259 hugs cuddlybear66
13:39 cuddlybear66; u don't have to be a bad parent just bc most are
13:39 s98259; You'll make a great mother if not one already.
13:39 cuddlybear66; exactly bc most parents r bad u should strive to be better
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; the sad thing iss
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's partly genetic
13:39 s98259; Yeah, I agree with this, is with my point too.
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; they say a child that was beaten up will be soft with her/his kids
13:40 s98259; And yeah I've met families where
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; but in practice they often turn out to be their parents at the end
13:40 s98259; everyone in it has a set of behaviours
13:40 s98259; that they share
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; due to genetic tendencies like temper
13:40 cuddlybear66; no, a child that was beaten up would end up repeating it
13:40 s98259; cuddlybear66: Yep
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes they promise themselves opposite
13:40 s98259; They would then do it to their kids and their other peers
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; "I'll NEVER do this to my kid"
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; but tehy do it anyway
13:40 s98259; cause conditioned into thinking it's right to attack a person when they done wrong.
13:41 s98259; They will attack in the playground because they were attacked themselves.
13:41 cuddlybear66; If ur not 100% sure ur going to be better nd actually help ur kids grow then u shouldn't even reproduce
13:41 s98259; Look into ASPD (Anti-Social Personal Disorder) and Narcissism. ASPD is basically Sociopathy.
13:41 s98259; A common case to these is bad parenting.
13:42 s98259; Yeah you can't exactly 100% blame a psychopath, sociopath, narcissist for their behaviour because the chances are someone else conditioned them to be that way.
13:42 TR News; National Archive https://truthout.org/articles/national-archives-has-asked-for-documents-trump-improperly-took-since-early-2021/ | Source: TruthOut
13:42 TR Bot; National Archives Has Asked for Documents Trump Improperly Took Since Early 2021
13:42 loner; children have a right to grow up with their mother and father, and an intact family
13:43 TR News; Florida https://truthout.org/articles/the-far-right-is-taking-over-florida-school-boards-thanks-in-part-to-dark-money/ | Source: TruthOut
13:43 TR Bot; The Far Right Is Taking Over Florida School Boards, Due in Part to Dark Money
13:43 loner; not being exposed to "social engineering", instead freely develop their natural sexuality, without "LGBTQ propaganda", which was how Hungary and Russia objected to it
13:43 loner; i am less offensive with the wording i would chose, nonetheless, the argument is legimitate
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; german parenting is awful
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; lots of beating up of kis
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; germany is notorious for this
13:44 schestowitz[TR];
13:45 loner; violence, both physical and psychological, is the another escalation phase
13:45 loner; towards children
13:45 TR News; Criminals (Microsofters) on gaming https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/25/xbox-chief-exclusives-arent-the-future-pay-no-attention-to-all-these-exclusives/ | Source: Techdirt
13:45 TR Bot; Chief: Exclusives Arent the Future, Pay No Attention To All These Exclusives | Techdirt
13:45 loner; children need guidance, and authority, not physical and psychological violence
13:46 loner; besides, alot of pornography on the internet, including LGBTQ one, is just that, psychological violence
13:46 TR News; Twitter's fake numbers are finally a subject of debate https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/25/creator-of-botometer-goes-on-media-tour-to-explain-why-elon-musks-claims-about-bots-using-botometer-are-meaningless/ | Source: Techdirt
13:46 TR Bot; Of Botometer Goes On Media Tour To Explain Why Elon Musks Claims About Bots (Using Botometer) Are Meaningless | Techdirt
13:47 loner; age 18? klick, become gay working cattle... this is the new "progressive" "liberal" ideal?
13:47 loner; i'm out
13:47 TR News; California Censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/25/why-is-a-british-baroness-drafting-california-censorship-laws/ | Source: Techdirt
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13:47 TR Bot; Is A British Baroness Drafting California Censorship Laws? | Techdirt
13:47 loner; because, this was the objection in Hungary/Russia elsewhere with "conservative" tendencies, where a red line was drawn
13:47 schestowitz[TR]; for a nazi
13:47 loner; not exposing _children_ to "LGBTQ propaganda", and i agree with this 100%
13:48 schestowitz[TR]; too much for you snowflake to ahndle
13:48 schestowitz[TR]; you are no macho
13:48 schestowitz[TR]; you are just looking to blame ther groups because you didn't find your place in life
13:49 loner; i do identify the feminist gaga as one cause of troube in particular, it's extremely hostile and hateful
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; now you sound like incel
13:50 loner; i am an incel, because of this
13:50 TR News; "two media polls announced results that seemed almost willful efforts to portray the public as extremists" https://fair.org/home/manufacturing-crisis-how-polling-on-the-border-exaggerates-extreme-opinions/ | Source: FAIR
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13:50 TR Bot; Manufacturing 'Crisis': How Polling on the Border Exaggerates Extreme Opinions - FAIR
13:50 loner; and i do not feel ashamed of this at all
13:51 loner; i had my fun in life, _before_ the lgbtq/femnist gaga incitement became totalitarian
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; we are the sme age
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; you talk about feminism like it's a new thing
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; that's bullshit
13:51 loner; instead, i am proud of it, to not follow along their "ideals" of turning into gay working cattle for their feminist multi culti gaga wonderland
13:52 TR News; Tech In Plain Sight: Rain-Sensing Wipers https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/tech-in-plain-sight-rain-sensing-wipers/ | Source: Hackaday
13:52 TR Bot; In Plain Sight: Rain-Sensing Wipers | Hackaday
13:52 loner; and the "social ecological justice" of theirs
13:52 loner; as far as i am concerned, they may inflate their shitcoin EU currency to the moon
13:53 loner; because they, already, did accomplish what they wanted to, killing my entire existence
13:53 loner; and i collected evidence for this, more than 20years now
13:53 loner; the problem they have, is to explain now, why the third(!!!) expropriation won't suffice anymore
13:54 loner; reminder, i enjoyed two expropriations already, the recent inflatin is the third one, and i am 40years old now
13:54 loner; two currency reforms, and the most excessive inflation since WW2
13:54 TR News; Lachlan Murdoch https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/25/lachlan-murdoch-is-big-mad-that-crikey-called-him-out-on-his-bullshit-so-now-hes-suing-to-shut-them-up/ | Source: Techdirt
13:54 TR Bot; Murdoch Is Big Mad That Crikey Called Him Out On His Bullshit; So Now Hes Suing To Shut Them Up | Techdirt
13:54 loner; my argument: WELL DONE! need some scape goat to blame? look elsewhere.
13:55 TR News; "In the White Mountains of New Hampshire, I gathered last week with a group of antiwar activists where we talked of the grim issues confronting the globe." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/25/dance-sympathy-planet-gone-mad | Source: Common Dreams
13:55 TR Bot; Opinion | The Dance of Sympathy on a Planet Gone Mad | Brad Wolf
13:56 loner; some "political science" bullshit gaga... they arranged rather well, they all got their offices and media and political positions
13:56 loner; to "earn" their shitcoins
13:56 loner; i got NOTHING, not at least some tinies office and lab space in MY OWN HOMELAND
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; so you blame feminists for taking your officer space?
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; and your "OWN HOMELAND"?
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; *office
13:57 loner; almost forgot, its "the climate" nowadays, however, i check the bills here, it's not me who wastes all the energy
13:57 loner; schestowitz[TR]: yes i do
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; the climate is connected to overpopulation
13:57 loner; i got evidence for this
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; you seem concerned about low birth rate
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; maybe you fail to see the planet is already overpopulated any6way
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; and many germsns recognise this already
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; but not you
13:58 loner; schestowitz[TR]: population INCREASED in germany, although we got the far lowest brith rate on the entire globe
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; the Nords too
13:58 loner; explain!
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; it increase because of immigration
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; making more births does not solve the issue
13:58 loner; and then, they sneak around the corner, with they gay porn, to entertain me with?
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; the reason they come is overpopulation
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; in their home countries
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; so they spread out
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; and btw, thsoe immigrants typically think gays should be killed
13:59 loner; it's certainly not me who was supposedly crazy or whatever
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; so quit blaming gays
13:59 loner; well, gays are supposed to serve as working cattle and in military
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; lockeanarchist: you are crazy and intolerant in your OWN way
13:59 loner; that's the "ideal"
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; that's why you cannot find gainful employment
13:59 loner; or become an incel
13:59 loner; although, their only concern seems to be, that's less efficient
14:00 loner; and not only do i want back MY homeland, i want them to leave, all of them
14:00 loner; all foreign agents and agitators out, send back to their homelands wherever they came from
14:00 loner; they're the worst criminals in human history
14:02 loner; it's the THIRD expropriation
14:02 loner; since 1990
14:02 loner; and i didn't count yet the many "currency reforms" of my parents and grand parents
14:02 TR News; "Over the last few years, students have rarely had the option to opt-out of using remote proctoring tools" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/federal-judge-invasive-online-proctoring-room-scans-are-also-unconstitutional | Source: EFF
14:02 TR Bot; Federal Judge: Invasive Online Proctoring "Room Scans" Are Unconstitutional | Electronic Frontier Foundation
14:02 loner; and, how did this end? i do see, who hijcked _ALL_ leading positions in politics, industry, media/tv/newspapers
14:03 TR News; "To make your job as a parent easier, weve combined expert-approved tips and created a four-step guide to introducing parental controls in your home" https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/child-friendly-guide-to-parental-controls/ | Source: PIA
14:03 TR Bot; How to Explain Parental Controls to Children
14:03 loner; that's not a "conspiracy theory", it's a fact
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; thw world is global
14:03 loner; however, it's not me, who had to explain now, why germany scheduled for FINAL nuclear shutdown end of this year
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; germany experts
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; many machines, cars
14:03 loner; germany doesn't exist anymore
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; insular germany would be weaker
14:04 loner; they eradicated the entire population, and brainwashed and socially engineered the rest
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; with epo eu etc. germany exerts power over nearby nations
14:04 loner; germany what? it doesn't exist anymore. neither any population nor legal instutions, nothing
14:04 TR News; FCC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/25/fcc-state-action-nets-an-amazing-80-reduction-in-auto-warranty-scam-robocalls/ | Source: Techdirt
14:04 TR Bot; State Action Nets An Amazing 80% Reduction In Auto Warranty Scam Robocalls | Techdirt
14:05 loner; all that remained is that remained is some posers and scammers, who present themselves as "government" or "intellectuals" supposedly representing "germany"
14:05 TR News; "Theres presumptive access to court records under the First Amendment." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/25/sixth-circuit-equal-access-to-court-proceedings-only-applies-to-those-more-equal-than-others/ | Source: Techdirt
14:05 TR Bot; Circuit: Equal Access To Court Proceedings Only Applies To Those More Equal Than Others | Techdirt
14:05 loner; yet there isn't none anymore
14:05 loner; simple test-run, visit any big german city and try to find a restaurant where you could learn and play a traditional german card game
14:06 loner; you won't find any anwywhere, because it ceased to exist
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; you miss a germany you never lived in
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; and was not born in
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; you were born 1981
14:06 schestowitz[TR]; germany was already americanised decades earlier
14:07 schestowitz[TR]; so you miss something you don't even know
14:07 loner; all i remember is heavily deformed remains of what it once was
14:07 schestowitz[TR]; when?
14:07 schestowitz[TR]; 1985?
14:07 schestowitz[TR]; the berlin wall?
14:08 schestowitz[TR]; you didn't even live there
14:08 loner; there was a very short time-frame, 1990s to until 2000, before 9/11 2001
14:08 loner; this time, was, relatively normal
14:08 loner; no war, no cold-war, and normalizing social and political conditions
14:09 schestowitz[TR]; you were born into the cold war
14:09 schestowitz[TR]; on the eastern bloc
14:09 loner; in 1998 extremist criminals hijacked government in germany (mostly "atlantic bridge" WAR CRIMINALS)
14:09 loner; since then, and finally 2001, gone
14:09 schestowitz[TR]; you fetishise a fiction
14:09 loner; they had other plans, from the beginning
14:09 loner; "to combat inequality" (because two expropriations weren't enough at that time)
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; this is excahsuting and off-topic speak later
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; I'll post Daily Links
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14:22 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi and SparkFun https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_and_SparkFun.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_and_SparkFun.gmi
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14:22 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Europe, Bans, and Microsoft Censorship https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Free_Software_Europe_Bans_and_Microsoft_Censorship.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Free_Software_Europe_Bans_and_Microsoft_Censorship.gmi
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14:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Europe, Bans, and Microsoft Censorship
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14:24 TR News; "The internet speed has increased a lot since 2000. Pixel size, colors and camera have also improved a lot, since 2011 I don't feel the need to buy new phones. Mobile internet was already good enough for me with 3G." gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2022-08-26-mobile-phones-i-have-been-using-overtime.gmi
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14:40 TR News; As if ICBM knows how to attract young people... it also insults older people by calling them "DINOBABIES" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-talent-gen-z
14:40 TR Bot; How to hire (and retain) Gen Z talent | The Enterprisers Project
14:42 TR News; "Latest and Greatest" isn't always great. Sometimes it tries to replace something "old" for all the wrong reasons, even if the old thing is technically superior.
14:42 *s98259 has suspicions that schestowitz[TR] and loner might be lovers
14:42 schestowitz[TR]; maybe lovers of software
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; but I suspect he doesn't love any software at all
14:43 XRevan86; This is hard to read. activelow remembered he can talk about something other than compilers.
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; Intrel bad
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; Incel good
14:43 XRevan86; Pseudo-linguistics are back, Hitler is back
14:43 s98259; Oh so you are not in love with each other? :D
14:44 *s98259 gives XRevan86 a hamper of chocolates
14:44 *s98259 gives schestowitz[TR] a hamper of chocolates
14:44 *s98259 gives loner a hamper of chocolates
14:44 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
14:44 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
14:44 s98259; System Uptime: 4 weeks, 2 days, 23 hours, 25 minutes
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; nice
14:44 s98259; hmm?
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: slave means sleep :-)
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; not slav
14:45 s98259; What is nice?
14:45 XRevan86; schestowitz: I read that %).
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; master means... never mind
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; meisterrace
14:46 *schestowitz[TR] thinks loner needs awoman's touch/love
14:46 XRevan86; schestowitz: That's a strong anti-feminist message :)
14:46 schestowitz[TR]; it's too late anyway
14:46 *s98259 is confused about what's nice
14:46 s98259; o.o
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: system uptime
14:47 s98259; Oh! that ah thanks
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; what's puptime?
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; puppylinux?
14:47 s98259; No
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; pup as in poop
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; my dog is caling
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; it's puptime
14:47 *schestowitz[TR] grabs small plastic bag
14:47 s98259; Just a script I wrote
14:48 schestowitz[TR]; bash? shell?
14:48 schestowitz[TR]; puppy linux/easyos makes many of its own tools
14:48 schestowitz[TR]; called pup*something
14:48 s98259; alias.cmd.uptime = "/exec -o puptime"
14:48 s98259; bash
14:48 schestowitz[TR]; got to admire people who make their own from bottom to top
14:49 schestowitz[TR]; with their own stack
14:49 schestowitz[TR]; not just wallpaper and some preloaded "apps"
14:49 s98259; echo "System Uptime: $(uptime --pretty | awk '{ print $2" "$3" "$4" "$5" "$6" "$7" "$8" "$9 }')"
14:50 s98259; IRC command: /uptime
14:50 *schestowitz[TR] opens uptime manpage
14:50 s98259; The first P stands for "pretty"
14:50 s98259; pretty uptime
14:51 schestowitz[TR]; pretty please
14:52 XRevan86; s98259: That's a funny way to use awk.
14:52 s98259; "pplease: An alternative to sudo and doas"
14:52 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_(Unix)
14:52 TR Bot; yes (Unix) - Wikipedia
14:53 s98259; XRevan86: Ah
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; please make me a sandwich
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; doas root please sudo
14:53 s98259; pplease rm -r --no-preserve-root / (Do NOT run this command! I will ignore you if you bitch at me!)
14:53 XRevan86; s98259: Something like `sed -E 's/^[^ ]+ //'` would do the trick just as well.
14:54 s98259; er... I forgot an f but oh well
14:54 loner; schestowitz[TR]: there isn't women who would understand my language anymore
14:54 XRevan86; (-E is superfluous actually)
14:54 s98259; I'm glad I shared it now.
14:54 loner; and i refrain from socializing otherwise
14:54 souseksi; s98259: thank you for sharing.
14:55 s98259; :)
14:56 XRevan86; s98259: Also `uptime --pretty` is something only available in the procps(-ng) version of uptime, not in GNU coreutils.
14:56 loner; and i am no zoo animal to conduct social engineering experiments with
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; alias hamperofchocolates='rm -rf'
14:57 loner; this government here, arrenged for immigration, to try this with
14:57 loner; enjoy
14:57 loner; i refrain
14:57 loner; i am not a zoo animal
14:57 s98259; XRevan86: That worked and make more sense. :3
14:57 s98259; *makes
14:57 s98259; Ah
14:58 s98259; I'll remove --pretty
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; git has nice pretty option
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; nice git --pretty
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; !!
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.23
15:06 TR News; (NEW): Jellyfin and Raspberry PI: a Free System to Manage your Media https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Jellyfin_and_Raspberry_PI_a_Free_System_to_Manage_your_Media.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Jellyfin_and_Raspberry_PI_a_Free_System_to_Manage_your_Media.gmi
15:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Jellyfin and Raspberry PI: a Free System to Manage your Media
15:07 TR News; vcl: implement zoom gesture infrastructure https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=474414919c102f2973d2ed9815f997fdb1f30d9c
15:07 TR Bot; libreoffice/core - main, development code repository
15:08 TR News; Pegasus Investigation Report to remain in sealed cover despite containing evidence that 5 phones had malware https://internetfreedom.in/pegasus-investigation-report-to-remain-in-sealed-cover-even-though-it-contains-evidence-that-5-phones-had-malware/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/
15:08 TR Bot; Pegasus Investigation Report to remain in sealed cover despite containing evidence that 5 phones had malware
15:16 TR News; Charmed Kubernetes and Huawei Oceanstor Pacific storage integration verification report | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/charmed-kubernetes-and-huawei-oceanstor-pacific-storage-integration-verification-report Source: Ubuntubuzz
15:16 TR Bot; Kubernetes and Huawei Oceanstor Pacific storage integration verification report | Ubuntu
15:17 TR News; Microsoft 'security' https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/living-off-the-land-ad-cs-style/ part of a pattern: http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
15:17 TR Bot; Living off the land, AD CS style | Pen Test Partners
15:17 loner; ~~
15:17 TR Bot; Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights
15:19 TR News; Twitter is not social and not media. At the core it is a censorship and manipulation machine that will censor more and more (and distract the masses) until it dies, goes bust due to inability to make money
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: he needa a hamper of chocolates
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 TR News; "In den Wilden Gestaden leiten mehrere Personen Spiele und die Spieler setzen sich immer neu zusammen. Ein offener Tisch, online. Funktioniert prchtig!" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-26%20AD&D%20Reibungsflchen
15:21 TR News; GNU Linux fonts and font editors what is WOFF? https://dwaves.de/2022/08/26/gnu-linux-fonts-and-font-editors-what-is-woff/
15:21 TR Bot; GNU Linux fonts and font editors what is WOFF? | dwaves.de
15:22 TR News; SpellBinding: ABIMORS Wordo: PIING gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi
15:24 TR News; Microsoft does not want security experts because Microsoft does not want security, it wants bug doors for the NSA http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
15:24 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
15:26 TR News; "Sorry Steam! Why did you not treat me as a developer? WTF were you thinking? I build Operating Systems & have for over 20 years. Your Steam deck uses Arch Linux. Took me one day to port my software to yours. You are fucked." http://ultimateedition.info/the-hammer-is-about-to-drop/
15:27 TR Bot; The Hammer is about to drop - Ultimate Edition
15:28 TR News; The language odf the developer of Ultimate Edition (GNU/Linux distro) always makes me wonder if he's sober http://ultimateedition.info/the-hammer-is-about-to-drop/
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; "That is all I will say right now. Last check I am TheeMahn. What will happen tomorrow? I have a ThreadRipper Pro coming up tomorrow. I can promise you that you are hit in the mouth. I did offer to sell you my software. Now I will incorporate in a O/S I build & wipe you out. Mine will be free, pretty hard to fuck with.
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; "
15:29 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/politics/254436
15:29 TR Bot; Gentlemen prefer brunettes: How a GRU agent turned NATO officers around her little finger
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: hair colour is a lousy factor
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; and it's easy to change
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; ammonia
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; he msm/pop culture treats hair colour of choice like a pesonality type
15:31 XRevan86; schestowitz: Just a phrase.
15:31 *CrystalMath (~coderain@64vdbiwhiqu9i.irc) has joined #techrights
15:32 XRevan86; The article is actually not about that but a success story.
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; even most russian blondes, esp. female, use hair dye
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: she is not even attractive
15:34 loner; most blondes change hair color, when the grow up; as a child many are blonde, then later turn darker
15:34 loner; almost always
15:35 XRevan86; schestowitz: Maybe she looks better in uniform.
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; "In recent years, the work of GRU officers has been associated with high-profile failures: they tried to poison a fugitive spy with Novichok but killed a British citizen instead; they brought a Buk missile system to Donbass to shoot down warplanes but shot down a Boeing passenger jet. Time after time again they demonstrate fantastic unprofessionalism: when hackers from the GRU were arrested while trying to hack the OPCW network, on
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; e of them had a cab receipt with the address of a military unit in his pocket;"
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; Bellingcat?
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; I don't trust hem much, either
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; they are a front group of "the other putins"
15:37 loner; Bellingcat is considered a CIA propaganda outlet by Kremlin
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; the "good " putins
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; not just the kremlin
15:38 TR News; Cockpit Project: Cockpit 275 https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-275.html
15:38 TR Bot; Cockpit 275 Cockpit Project
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; being misled by putin is very bad
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; being misled by anti--putin think tank is also bad
15:39 XRevan86; schestowitz: Bellingcat's investigative work is really solid.
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; but she is probably indeed an agent
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; they have lots of agents out there
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; Butina..
15:40 TR News; Neofetch A Command Line Linux System Information Tool https://www.linuxshelltips.com/neofetch-linux-system-information-tool/
15:40 TR Bot; Neofetch A Command Line Linux System Information Tool
15:41 XRevan86; schestowitz: That's quite a colourful character.
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, her main air was to propr up the pseudom achos
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; with guns and studd
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; that weakens the west
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; causes culture wars
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; people like loner
15:41 TR News; How I analyze my music directory with Groovy | https://opensource.com/article/22/8/groovy-script-java-music Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/8/groovy-script-java-music
15:41 TR Bot; I analyze my music directory with Groovy | Opensource.com
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; RT and Sputnik spur up anti-immigrant hatred, too
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; Trump and Murdoch help them
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; head of sec at twitter become whistlebvlower
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; now admits nation states can easily hijack the narrative in twitter
15:44 loner; people like loner?
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina
15:44 TR Bot; Maria Butina - Wikipedia
15:45 loner; i am merely citing facts, undeniable facts, of what "atlantic bridge" minions (war criminals) did in the last decades
15:45 XRevan86; Latest from Butina is she suggested jailing parents if their children access RKN'd resources with VPN.
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; "Butina was in a relationship with Overstock.com CEO and Trump conspiracy theorist Patrick M. Byrne. Byrne claimed the FBI encouraged him to pursue Butina, a claim retired FBI officials denied."
15:45 XRevan86; Constant entertainmnet.
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; "For five years, prosecutors claimed, Butina lived with and maintained an intimate relationship with activist and fraudster Paul Erickson. During Donald Trump's presidential campaign in 2016, Erickson attempted to develop a back-channel between the NRA and the Russian government. Erickson was jailed and convicted of fraud unrelated to his relationship with Butina, then pardoned by Trump in his last week in office."
15:46 loner; that's the confusing aspect, with Vladimir P., in public he agitates against "the west" and "decadence"
15:47 schestowitz[TR]; ""The FBI began to monitor Butina in August 2016, after she had moved to the United States on an F-1 student visa. Rather than confront her immediately, the FBI chose to track her movements and gather information on whom she was meeting, and what her end goals were to be
15:47 loner; and, mostly behind the scences of the vulgar political theater, shakes hands to conduct oil/gas business with exactly those decadent westerners (BoJo, Trumpovitsch, German altantic-bridge affiliates)
15:48 XRevan86; > "that's the confusing aspect, with Vladimir P., in public he" <- With experience comes realisation.
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; "Butina is one of the members of the State Duma the United States Treasury sanctioned on 24 March 2022 in response to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine"
15:49 loner; well, Zelensky too stuffed his pockets full with Dollars, Panama Papers, offshore accounts
15:49 loner; whoever they are, i don't believe any of their theater
15:50 loner; it's all propaganda rubbish, and in the end someone has to pay for this... guess who
15:50 loner; and that's the moment when i begin to talk a little
15:51 loner; another mis-conception about "right-wingers" in east-germany, at least some of them, didn't spray swastikas onto the wall to identify themselves with, but instead to label their surroundins as what it is
15:51 loner; and police, required, not anyone pissing at "holy" buildings of any flaver of this
15:52 TR News; (NEW): postmarketOS // Considering SourceHut, Part 2 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/postmarketOS_Considering_SourceHut_Part_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/postmarketOS_Considering_SourceHut_Part_2.gmi
15:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines postmarketOS // Considering SourceHut, Part 2"
15:52 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
15:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
15:53 loner; it's the THIRD(!) expropriation, since 1990
15:54 loner; in many regions, 50% of east-german youth left their homeland, because of unemployment, and two preceeding "currency reforms"
15:54 loner; now, comes the third one, and this one seems lethal, more or less
15:55 loner; and i wouldn't take for granted, this couldn't arrive in germany
15:55 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: Who does? o:
15:56 loner; no clue what the theater with saporischja plant is
15:56 loner; germany scheduled for _final_ nuclear shutdown december 2022
15:57 s98259; o.o
15:59 loner; just today, another of those "atlantic bridge" war criminals, Oezdemir (from Turkey!!!), announced, he permitted german soil designated as natural reserve may be used for farming
15:59 loner; would be curious, why? couldn't he and his following simply leave back to their homelands and farm their food themselves.
15:59 loner; ?
16:00 loner; as far as i am concerned, i want those war criminals to leave MY homeland
16:00 loner; all of them
16:00 loner; in Ukraine, no surprise, they seeked to land-grab for natural resources and oil/gas
16:00 loner; how generous they are...
16:01 loner; seemed to have failed, somehow
16:01 loner; the only reason there isn't any blood on the streets yet in germany
16:02 loner; east-german military was dismantled and "re-educated" to follow those new "leaders"
16:02 loner; besides, the did an awesome job, to eradicate most of the population
16:02 loner; what they did, those atlantic bridge war criminals, by all means of the definition of it, is the biggest ethnocide in european history
16:04 loner; this final nuclear shutdown 2022, that's not only a symbolic act, of an ending era of science, culture and arts, of a civilization which once build such plants
16:05 loner; they couldn't operate nuclear at the scale required anymore, even if they wanted to
16:05 loner; because, the political leadersship is a bunch of corrupt, murderous, criminal charlatans
16:05 loner; how now, to "safe the climate" fire up coal power plants to peak capacity
16:07 loner; guess what the "carbon neutral" heating is according to them, the ones like Oezdemir?
16:07 loner; buring wood pellets from german forests, sure, those migrants prefer the appartments comfortable and warm during german winter
16:10 loner; a government with war criminals such as Oezdemir in charge, isn't only not legitimate, such persons as Oezdemire got no right at all to reside in germany
16:10 loner; and that's why i am wondering, with all their brilliant ideas, to "safe the climate", and "fight racism" etc... why aren't they doing it first in their homelands?
16:11 loner; such as: turkey, lebanon, iran, iraq, yugaslavia, romania... there's many places and homes for them
16:11 loner; instead, they're importing their political and ideological conflicts into germany
16:12 loner; recently, "german" chancellor Scholz "social democrat", atlantic bridge war criminal, shaked hands with palestinian holocaust denier Abbas
16:13 loner; citation, loose translation from Abbas, few days ago: "Israel commited several holocausts against us, the Palestinians", chancellor Scholz salutes
16:14 loner; who are those people? what are they doing here? in MY homeland?
16:14 loner; and in the end, someone has to pay with hard cash, guess who?
16:14 loner; and this is when i had a little to say, after two expropriations, with the third one ignited recently
16:15 loner; the only good news is, there is nothing remaining anymore to loot and plunder
16:15 MinceR; 26 130810 < techrights-news> "Orbn has declared war on liberal democracy and in doing so appeals not only to anti-communists, right-wing Christians, nativists, and homophobes"
16:15 MinceR; lol @ "anti-communists"
16:15 loner; they can't expropriate soil and companies more than once
16:16 MinceR; like fideath who openly sucks up to the CPC and wants to spend taxpayers' money on a "university" that requires loyalty to the CPC
16:16 XRevan86; MinceR: Anti-communist Hitler was making deals with Stalin.
16:17 MinceR; yeah
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: not a uniquely hungarian issue
16:17 MinceR; and then they occupied poland together, in an alliance
16:17 MinceR; and divided it up
16:19 XRevan86; MinceR: They were incompatible, but they found a way.
16:19 TR News; "I got an overwhelmingly positive response to the new newsletter format. A few FOSSers expressed concern about losing the personal touch in this new format. I assure you that it won't happen." https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-31/ the name is confusing. There is already a "FLOSS Weekly"
16:19 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #22.31: Tweaking Nemo, Tools to Understand Linux Commands and More
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:20 XRevan86; Ultimate testimony to cooperation and tolerance. Well, until the sudden but inevitable betrayal that is.
16:20 CrystalMath; i think declaring war on liberal democracy appeals to communists too
16:21 CrystalMath; but also anti-communists, at least if we look at how people call themselves
16:22 XRevan86; Communists are a diverse bunch, it does to some, it doesn't to others.
16:22 loner; _this_ is the most plausible explanation, for the land and power-grab into ukraine ("war") by "atlantic bridge", they already looted and plundered what they could close nearby after 1990
16:22 TR News; COVID-19 killed key conference of cURL: "Unfortunately, I had the bad taste of catching covid exactly when I was about to use my new US visa for the first time, so I had to remain at home and because of that we cancelled the whole event." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/08/26/curl-up-2022-take-2/ notice the Microsoft logo in there. Tainted project. Microsoft money. http://techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/
16:22 TR Bot; up 2022 take 2 | daniel.haxx.se
16:22 TR Bot; Microsoft: Stay in Our Proprietary Prison (GitHub) and Attract Other People to This Prison, Well Give You Gifts | Techrights
16:22 s98259; CrystalMath: <3 :3
16:22 loner; "german" politicians, such as Oezdemir, he couldn't "export" (steal) any more corn and wheat from german soil to ship into turkey/lebanon/syria wherever
16:22 *s98259 gives CrystalMath a hamper of chocolates
16:22 CrystalMath; loner: well, it's true that israel is committing a genocide of palestinians
16:22 *s98259 cuddle CrystalMath
16:22 loner; farming already operated at maximum
16:22 CrystalMath; hi s98259 :)
16:23 *s98259 climbs into CrystalMath's lap and purrs
16:23 TR News; cURL: Microsoft STOCKHOLM syndrome. WGet: GNU.
16:23 s98259; CrystalMath: Me Helena :3
16:23 loner; CrystalMath: impossible. there's billions of their cultural spehere spanning from north-africa down to indonesia
16:23 TR News; "We provide you both infographics and text version of the weekly report. If you just want to quickly look at what we did, just look at the infographic. If you are interested in more in depth details look below the infographic." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-34-2022/
16:23 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update - Week 34 2022 Fedora Community Blog
16:23 MinceR; 26 171919 < XRevan86> MinceR: They were incompatible, but they found a way.
16:23 MinceR; they were very similar to each other
16:24 loner; anyway, the farming aspect alone, Oezdemir couldn't loot and plunder any more than he already did... hence he does depend on generously distribute Ukrainian corn in the name of "humanity"
16:24 MinceR; still are
16:24 loner; which according to him, certainly didn't include some east-german underling
16:24 XRevan86; MinceR: An "anti-communist" and an "anti-fascist" is what I mean.
16:24 XRevan86; self-declared
16:25 loner; and while Oezdemire and his turkish "minority" enjoy luxury cars and comfortable appartments... guess who is paying for this?
16:25 loner; however, such dumbf** couldn't operate nuclear plants... this is one moment of payback time...
16:25 loner; guess who shall pay, again, for this?
16:26 loner; that's too irritating, PUtin shaking hands with Erdogan... none of my concerns, i simply do not understand this anymore, Turkey == NATO
16:26 loner; so Putin suddenly becomes best buddy of NATO there?
16:26 XRevan86; It is always funny but also nice when activelow openly realises there are holes in his understanding of Putin.
16:27 XRevan86; and the world politics in general
16:27 TR News; "This is a brief update of patch statuses. These are what will appear in the v6.1 kernel." https://asus-linux.org/blog/updates-2022-08-26/
16:27 TR Bot; ASUS NoteBook Linux
16:27 TR News; (NEW): openSUSE News: Mesa, Git, Gear, More Update in Tumbleweed https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/openSUSE_News_Mesa_Git_Gear_More_Update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/openSUSE_News_Mesa_Git_Gear_More_Update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi
16:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines openSUSE News: Mesa, Git, Gear, More Update in Tumbleweed
16:27 MinceR; i thought erdogan turned against putler recently
16:27 schestowitz[TR]; sort of
16:27 MinceR; then again, maybe he's playing the same game orban is playing
16:27 schestowitz[TR]; now he poses as peacemaker
16:28 loner; i don't care whom turks befriend with, as long as they don't cut down the last remaining tree in germany to harvest wood pellets for heating and corn shipped to turkey
16:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/25/duginist-propaganda-in-turkey-how-russia-turkey-are-both-friends-and-competitors/
16:28 TR Bot; Propaganda in Turkey; How Russia-Turkey Are Both Friends and Competitors - CounterPunch.org
16:28 loner; currently, this is labeled as "renewable" to burn wood pellets, Oezdemir, one such name
16:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/08/22/happy-to-help">Happy to help How Turkey's President Erdogan
16:28 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/18/erdogan-and-zelensky-hold-first-talks-since-full-scale-war-began
16:29 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:29 XRevan86; MinceR: "i thought erdogan turned against putler recently" <- Same energy: https://aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/24/belarus-congratulates-ukraine-on-independence-day
16:29 TR Bot; Belarus congratulates Ukraine on Independence Day | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera
16:29 schestowitz[TR]; just.. preeeeciousss.
16:29 XRevan86; Ergodan is playing both sides. Lukashenko is trying to do the same thing but failing spectacularly.
16:30 schestowitz[TR]; KSA: kiss the ring.
16:30 schestowitz[TR]; while I kill your journalists
16:30 schestowitz[TR]; also: sell me lots of weapons
16:30 schestowitz[TR]; we'll pay in oil
16:31 XRevan86; It's quite pathetic, Belarus is involved in the war, it can't just make that go away.
16:31 MinceR; XRevan86: yeah
16:31 XRevan86; https://reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-rejects-cynical-independence-day-greeting-by-belarusian-leader-2022-08-24/
16:31 TR Bot; rejects 'cynical' Independence Day greeting by Belarusian leader | Reuters
16:31 TR News; [RFC 0/3] THP Shrinker - alexlzhu https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1661461643.git.alexlzhu@fb.com/ "Transparent Hugepages use a larger page size of 2MB in comparison to normal sized pages that are 4kb."
16:31 TR Bot; [RFC 0/3] THP Shrinker - alexlzhu
16:32 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: Making chilli con carne :3
16:32 TR News; GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+ https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/KH2BKEOZTLV4G6WF5FUXU6RYDPC62UEX/
16:32 TR Bot; GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+ - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
16:32 s98259; I can make it from scratch! :3
16:33 MinceR; if you want to make chili con carne from scratch, first you have to invent the universe
16:33 s98259; MinceR: Sure
16:33 TR News; [Intel-gfx] [RFC v1 0/1] Enabling Smooth Sync Feature. https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-August/304241.html Source: Zx2c4 | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-August/304241.html
16:33 TR Bot; [Intel-gfx] [RFC v1 0/1] Enabling Smooth Sync Feature.
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16:34 TR News; [PATCH 0/4] sched/fair: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains - Ricardo Neri https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220825225529.26465-1-ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com/
16:34 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/4] sched/fair: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains - Ricardo Neri
16:35 XRevan86; Erdogan is getting profit pretty well so far but he is playing with fire: if NATO is fed up with him enough, the other members can reduce Turkey's role in NATO.
16:36 s98259; MinceR, schestowitz[TR], I'm smoking weed :3
16:36 XRevan86; But apparently so far they see his role as a net positive as he managed to strike some deals with Putin that Putin actually upheld more or less.
16:36 s98259; My head is fallin' off...
16:36 MinceR; hi smoking weed, i'm dad
16:36 TR News; Chipsee AIO-CM4-156 A 15.6-inch industrial All-in-One computer with Raspberry Pi CM4 https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/26/chipsee-aio-cm4-156-a-15-6-inch-industrial-all-in-one-computer-with-raspberry-pi-cm4/
16:36 TR Bot; Chipsee AIO-CM4-156 - A 15.6-inch industrial All-in-One computer with Raspberry Pi CM4 - CNX Software
16:36 s98259; I'm gonna get up and do something! :3
16:36 s98259; MinceR: Hi dad, why did you name me this way?
16:36 MinceR; \_()_/
16:37 s98259; :3
16:37 s98259; brb now :D
16:37 TR News; "Chipsee says the all-in-one computer is fully compatible with Raspberry Pi OS (Debian), and also lists Ubuntu and Android 11, but most operating systems for Raspberry Pi should work as well. More technical details can be found on the documentation website." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/26/chipsee-aio-cm4-156-a-15-6-inch-industrial-all-in-one-computer-with-raspberry-pi-cm4/
16:37 XRevan86; Can't say the same about the deal Putin made with the UN regarding Azovstal's surrender.
16:38 XRevan86; Still no news on that front.
16:38 s98259; I back! :D
16:38 s98259; Getting up and sitting back down against is a reset switch for my fall-asleepness
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; <s98259> MinceR, schestowitz[TR], I'm smoking weed :3
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; if it makes you ahappy and nobody is harmed..
16:38 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: Don't worry I'm not stabbing up the neighbours
16:39 s98259; I can't be arsed with em anyway lol
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; we hate when the neighbours do it cause we need to shut doors and windows, the smoke is terrible
16:39 s98259; They're just a bunch of randomers on an estate
16:39 s98259; who could put me to harm... :'(
16:39 MinceR; yeah, why stab them up if you can just cut them down
16:40 s98259; Agreed! :3
16:40 loner; that's one argument i conset with Putin, him insisting foreign agents register and identify accordingly
16:40 s98259; I don't want them knocking at my door, I don't want them posting through my door, I don't even want them to say the damn alphabet to me.
16:40 XRevan86; loner: Do ye agree with the definition of a foreign agent?
16:40 s98259; I would like for them to mind their own business and I'll mind mine. :3
16:40 loner; with germany i would insisit, this applied to all Ukraine/Belarus/Russian/Polish agents acting here, same with all those "atlantic bridge" ones
16:40 TR News; LOL!!!! $469... !!! Foir a CELERON!!! You can buy TEN four-core Raspis for that price!!! https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/26/wafer-tgl-u-3-5-inch-tiger-lake-sbc-offers-3x-2-5gbe-port-sata-4x-display-interfaces/
16:40 TR Bot; WAFER-TGL-U 3.5-inch Tiger Lake SBC offers 3x 2.5GbE port, SATA, 4x display interfaces - CNX Software
16:41 MinceR; knock-knock-knockin' on s98259's door
16:41 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: ^
16:41 s98259; MinceR: That song <3
16:41 loner; XRevan86: "atlantic bridge", would you agree with the definition of this being an "NGO" for "non-profit"?
16:41 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_foreign_agent_law#2020s It's been updated by the way.
16:41 TR Bot; Russian foreign agent law - Wikipedia
16:41 loner; hence i insist, any member or affiliate of this gang of war criminals is labeled accordingly
16:41 s98259; /nick Helenah
16:41 *s98259 is now known as Helenah
16:42 *Helenah is now known as s98259
16:42 TR News; Intel in 2022: selling fossils to dinosaurs
16:42 psydroid2; lol
16:42 schestowitz[TR]; $469
16:42 s98259; Something broke.
16:42 XRevan86; loner: The best way not to be a foreign agent in Russia is to be a hermit.
16:42 schestowitz[TR]; so you can AKMOST run Vista11
16:42 schestowitz[TR]; celeron
16:42 loner; whenever anyone of them poses in public as "journalist" or "politician", just anything relevant... to identify as "atlantic bridge" gang member
16:42 psydroid2; at snail's pace
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; edge pace
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; it's notoriously bloated now
16:43 loner; XRevan86: too i consider the former soviet/KGB/FSB realm problematic in germany and their agents acting secretly here
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't look into it
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; seems they just broken down mise into modules
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; took fresh chromium
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; loaded up the bloat onto it, bolted in
16:43 loner; i do not object of former soviets being active in germany, i object to them doing it secretly, to subvert and hijack positions
16:43 schestowitz[TR]; and it runs like a snail
16:43 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
16:43 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
16:43 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
16:43 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable
16:43 s98259; I need to fix that
16:43 s98259; System Uptime:
16:43 s98259; /usr/local/bin/puptime: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable
16:44 psydroid2; and the celeron one is useless
16:44 s98259; Things broke.
16:44 psydroid2; only has 2 slow cores
16:44 loner; i am thinking of many former "yugo" "refugees" too with this, recently "ukrainian", "belarussian"... many "refugees" "NGO" "journalists"
16:44 s98259; I'm sorry about that guys.
16:44 schestowitz[TR]; too much UP time makes you HIGH
16:44 s98259; I only got enough resources for my IRC connection it seems.
16:44 psydroid2; even that $111 handheld could be faster
16:44 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: I'm stoned
16:44 loner; this would greatly simply various problems: to identify in whose interests those act, espionage etc...
16:45 s98259; My head is wired
16:45 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: Me and my gf are very private with the weed when it comes to irl
16:45 loner; the entire political apparatus is fully subverted and hijacked in germany, by foreign agents
16:45 s98259; We keep our windows and doors closed then spray the place down afterwards.
16:45 psydroid2; scratch that
16:45 loner; same with public media/tv/newspapers... foreign interests
16:45 psydroid2; the $111 handheld IS faster in multicore
16:45 schestowitz[TR]; you seem friendly though, just don't flood
16:45 psydroid2; talking about a Wintel tax
16:46 s98259; Who flooded?
16:46 schestowitz[TR]; UNIX and POTS don't mix anymore
16:46 s98259; I couldn't stop it.
16:46 loner; Putin is the least problematic, because he and his affiliates most often clearly identified
16:46 loner; the yugo gang, not sure, what to think of their strain of "communism"
16:46 MinceR; except when his affiliates lie about their affiliation
16:46 psydroid2; POTS is for running Vista
16:46 MinceR; which happens often
16:46 *s98259 gives schestowitz[TR] a hamper of drug delights
16:46 *s98259 gives MinceR a hamper of chocolates
16:46 MinceR; Plain Old Telephone System?
16:47 s98259; POTS <3
16:47 s98259; The days :D
16:47 s98259; I've been washing pots. :3
16:47 schestowitz[TR]; today's kids don't knmow the model dial-up sounds
16:47 MinceR; also when his affiliates can't decide which side they're on
16:47 schestowitz[TR]; or fax machines
16:47 MinceR; (orban, erdogan, lukashenka)
16:47 loner; anyway, they follow an agenda, similarly known in former yugoslavia, when everyone without a party politics passport was expelled from public institutions and economy...
16:47 loner; remember this?
16:47 s98259; I miss the days when you could sqeeze the dish soap bottle and all tiny bubbles would come out! :D
16:47 loner; this is what they did in germany, since 1990s
16:48 s98259; Oh the days of pots
16:48 s98259; and dish soap bubbles
16:48 s98259; Now it's just... pots...
16:48 TR News; SPAMnil posting spam for anti-Linux firms again. FUD as webspam.
16:48 s98259; with no fun...
16:48 XRevan86; https://yewtu.be/sxXZDlV6SO4 The true forgotten German language is revealed.
16:48 s98259; lol
16:48 TR Bot; Russian State TV: Vladimir Solovyov attempts to ridicules Olaf Scholz - Invidious
16:49 s98259; I'll stop, sorry. I should keep on-topic when tech talk is happening.
16:49 XRevan86; Need loner's expertise on just how close it is to the language of his grandmother.
16:49 loner; i don't use any youtube
16:49 s98259; youtube-dl <3
16:49 s98259; Oh
16:49 s98259; There is that new one, a fork of it that I need to try.
16:49 s98259; People are recommending it to me.
16:49 CrystalMath; yt-dlp?
16:50 s98259; Yes, that.
16:50 loner; XRevan86: there isn't any speakers remaining
16:50 MinceR; try headphones
16:50 loner; and those who do, don't anymore, remain silent, because the language is mis-represented as dumb
16:50 XRevan86; loner: https://files.catbox.moe/8o97j7.mp4
16:50 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/8o97j7.mp4 )
16:51 loner; i am not in the mood of ridicule
16:51 XRevan86; State TV quality content.
16:52 loner; just today a right-wing terrorist was sentenced to life-time imprisonment in germany
16:53 loner; a "german" politician, CDU in this case, agitated, anyone who didn't enjoy the immigration policies may freely choose to leave the country
16:53 MinceR; is there IRC in prison?
16:53 loner; in parallel, some unknown agent incited the perpretrator, provided him with a gun, and then the CDU politician was executed.
16:54 MinceR; good
16:54 XRevan86; loner: "i am not in the mood" <- Excuses, excuses.
16:54 MinceR; they should do that to the rest too
16:55 loner; the inciting agent was relived from any responsibility, the gun-men will go to jail for the rest of his life, and then sent into psychiatry or something (secure captivity, it's not called imprisonment)
16:56 loner; another reason why, i insist foreign agents in politics identify as what they are, in whose interest they agitate etc.
16:56 loner; the execution of this CDU politician wasn't the only case
16:57 TR News; Haha. No. Apple is in NSA PRISM. Your data is most safe... with YOU! https://www.maketecheasier.com/private-data-most-safe-with-apple/
16:57 TR Bot; Study Shows Your Private Data Is Most Safe with Apple - Make Tech Easier
16:57 loner; the church and their interests in germany, another political psycho-sect to shed some light upon
16:58 loner; if they're acting in the interest of Rome, fine, then they should clearly identify at least they do so
16:58 XRevan86; It's not that hard to buy loner, just declare something that appeals to him, it doesn't have to have any resemblance to the actual thing.
16:58 loner; and not present themselves as "german" politician or journalist or whatever
16:58 MinceR; i wonder what they studied... crApple ads? crApple fanboys' beliefs?
16:59 XRevan86; - Why did ye assassinate Trotsky?
16:59 XRevan86; - Well he was a fascist foreign agent.
16:59 XRevan86; - Ah, fair is fair.
16:59 MinceR; :>
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 113.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.55
16:59 TR News; 394 - With music on our side to break the old hard drives - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/08/26/394-with-music-on-our-side-to-break-the-old-hard-drives/ Source: mintCast Pocast
16:59 TR Bot; 394 With music on our side to break the old hard drives mintCast
17:00 TR News; "We learned some really hard lessons this week, and reflect. Then Chris finds the perfect temperature sensor, and Alex finds a beautiful media discovery app." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149702/we-should-know-better-self-hosted-78/
17:00 TR Bot; We Should Know Better | Self-Hosted 78 | Jupiter Broadcasting
17:04 TR News; (UPDATED): Deepin releases 20.6 plus a preview of major new version (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Deepin_releases_20_6_plus_a_preview_of_major_new_version.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Deepin_releases_20_6_plus_a_preview_of_major_new_version.gmi
17:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Deepin releases 20.6 plus a preview of major new version (UPDATED)
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17:08 TR News; "Ive been saying that complexity is the worst enemy of security for a long time now. (Heres me in 1999.) And its been true for a long time." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/security-and-cheap-complexity.html
17:08 TR Bot; and Cheap Complexity - Schneier on Security
17:09 TR News; "So, computers are insecure because they have so many complex layers." https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2022/08/03/the-anomaly-of-cheap-complexity/
17:09 TR Bot; The anomaly of cheap complexity
17:09 TR News; (NEW): Pano is a Next-Gen Clipboard Manager for GNOME Shell https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Pano_is_a_Next_Gen_Clipboard_Manager_for_GNOME_Shell.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Pano_is_a_Next_Gen_Clipboard_Manager_for_GNOME_Shell.gmi
17:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Pano is a Next-Gen Clipboard Manager for GNOME Shell
17:11 TR News; "CentOS hosted a Dojo at DevConf.US in Boston. This was our first return to hosting in-person events, and we tried to include remote participants with a YouTube live stream. Thanks to everybody who joined us in Boston or online" https://blog.centos.org/2022/08/centos-community-newsletter-august-2022/
17:11 TR Bot; Community Newsletter, August 2022 Blog.CentOS.org
17:12 TR News; Modernization as crypto-speak for embracing complexity (lock-in, too) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/modernization-developing-your-code-migration-strategy
17:12 TR Bot; Modernization: Developing your code migration strategy
17:13 TR News; Buzzwords overload https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/edge-automation-seven-industry-use-cases-and-examples
17:13 TR Bot; Edge automation: Seven industry use cases and examples
17:14 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2022/34 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/08/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-34/
17:14 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/34 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
17:16 TR News; (UPDATED): openSUSE News: Mesa, Git, Gear, More Update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/openSUSE_News_Mesa_Git_Gear_More_Update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/openSUSE_News_Mesa_Git_Gear_More_Update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi
17:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines openSUSE News: Mesa, Git, Gear, More Update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED)
17:17 TR News; The American Data Privacy and Protection Act: a look into the United States first federal privacy law https://www.techradar.com/features/the-american-data-privacy-and-protection-act-a-look-into-the-united-states-first-federal-privacy-law
17:17 TR Bot; American Data Privacy and Protection Act: a look into the United States' first federal privacy law | TechRadar
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17:19 TR News; Meet Canonical at OpenSearchCon 2022 and hear about our new community collaboration | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-opensearch-collaboration Source: Ubuntubuzz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-opensearch-collaboration
17:19 TR Bot; Canonical at OpenSearchCon 2022 and hear about our new community collaboration | Ubuntu
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 schestowitz__[TR]; https://peter.czanik.hu/other/opensource-linux-birthday-origin-stories/
17:20 TR Bot; Happy birthday, Linux! Here are 6 Linux origin stories | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
17:21 TR News; Day in the life of a package maintainer: Reproducible Go packages https://shibumi.dev/posts/day-in-the-life-of-a-package-maintainer-reproducible-go-packages/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//shibumi.dev/posts/day-in-the-life-of-a-package-maintainer-reproducible-go-packages/
17:21 TR Bot; Day in the life of a package maintainer: Reproducible Go packages
17:21 TR News; "It's substantially based on one module from an OpenSCAD "Nose Cone Library" by Garrett Goss, which he kindly released to the public domain." https://jmtd.net/log/janod_rocket/
17:21 TR Bot; jmtd log Replacement nosecone for Janod Rocket
17:22 TR News; Debian to Puppy package db conversion in Nim https://bkhome.org/news/202208/debian-to-puppy-package-db-conversion-in-nim.html "'debdb2pupdb' is written in BaCon language, though Dima (dimkr in the forum) rewrote it in C in woof-CE; though, the legacy-branch in woof-CE still has the BaCon version..."
17:22 TR Bot; Debian to Puppy package db conversion in Nim
17:23 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
17:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
17:23 TR News; Storing OCR result | My Journey at google summer of Code 2022 https://quochungtran.github.io/junk/2022/08/14/weed9.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//quochungtran.github.io/junk/2022/08/14/weed9.html
17:23 TR Bot; <Weeks 9> Storing OCR result | My Journey at google summer of Code 2022
17:25 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Europe, Bans, and Microsoft Censorship https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Free_Software_Europe_Bans_and_Microsoft_Censorship.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Free_Software_Europe_Bans_and_Microsoft_Censorship.gmi
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17:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Europe, Bans, and Microsoft Censorship
17:26 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Android_Leftovers.gmi
17:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
17:26 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Security_Leftovers.gmi
17:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
17:28 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat, Fedora, and CentOS Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Red_Hat_Fedora_and_CentOS_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Red_Hat_Fedora_and_CentOS_Leftovers.gmi
17:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat, Fedora, and CentOS Leftovers
17:28 TR News; (UPDATED): Universal Unix tool AWK gets Unicode support (UPDATEDx2) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Universal_Unix_tool_AWK_gets_Unicode_support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Universal_Unix_tool_AWK_gets_Unicode_support.gmi
17:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines Universal Unix tool AWK gets Unicode support (UPDATEDx2)
17:29 TR News; We Asked AI To Create These Beautiful Thunderbird Wallpapers https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/we-asked-ai-to-create-these-beautiful-thunderbird-wallpapers/ Source: Thunderbird | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/we-asked-ai-to-create-these-beautiful-thunderbird-wallpapers/
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17:29 TR Bot; We Asked AI To Create These Beautiful Thunderbird Wallpapers
17:31 TR News; What on EARTH does this have to do with Firefox? What has Mozilla been smokin'? https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/firefox-presents-stoke-king-wade-holland/
17:31 TR Bot; Firefox Presents: Feeling alive with the Stoke King
17:31 *schestowitz[TR] blames s98259
17:31 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: o.O
17:31 s98259; For?
17:32 TR News; Mozilla is rebranding as a censorship company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/misinformation-social-media/
17:32 TR Bot; Slow your scroll: 5 ways to fight misinformation on your social feed
17:32 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: smoke jking
17:33 TR News; "mate, why do you want me to try Firefox?" "It blocks things!" "Scams?" "No, politics and stuff that Gulag Baker does not agree with..."
17:34 s98259; Oh
17:35 TR News; Follow RSS feed of UK government, find out the RSS feed is like 300+ entries!!! Which you'd fetch over and over again!
17:37 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/08/a-new-jailbreak-for-john-deere-tractors-rides-the-right-to-repair-wave/
17:37 TR Bot; A new jailbreak for John Deere tractors rides the right-to-repair wave | Ars Technica
17:38 TR News; [Old] "Microsoft state that they follow the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), and that these practices apply to all geographies, not just Europe. However, you cannot access the data collected." https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry.html
17:38 TR Bot; VS Code - What's the deal with the telemetry?
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17:40 TR News; "However, VSCodium cant shut out all the data collection as it is the same codebase. And since extensions act independently with regard to data collection, you still need to be mindful of what extensions you install. You would need to search around for other options if you want to find a more privacy-oriented, open-source code editor." https://www.roboleary.net/tools/2022/04/20/vscode-telemetry.html
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17:41 TR News; Mir compositor has a new release, but it is outsourced to Microsoft/NSA proprietary malware. So don't trust it. Don't trust Canonical in general.
17:42 TR News; "KDE neon has Docker images which are great for easily testing out KDE software built from Git master, Git testing or releases without touching your host system." https://blog.neon.kde.org/2022/08/26/kde-neon-docker-images-now-on-22-04lts/
17:42 TR Bot; KDE neon Docker Images now on 22.04LTS KDE neon Developers' Blog
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17:45 TR News; It's Over, It Starts gemini://radi_.smol.pub/its-over_it-starts
17:46 TR News; "while working on my website, i happened to stumble across an opportunity where a certain company was opening auditions for new vtuber talents. i'm only heavily considering it because i'm in the midst of a hopeless job hunt - which sounds stupid but. well. this is me trying every avenue, even the unorthodox ones." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1112
17:46 TR News; "I finally created a gemini capsule!!! I've been lurking on gemini for ages now, and I've been wanting to contribute my own nonsense for just as long." gemini://gem.saayaa.space/gemlog/2022-08-25-my-first-gemlog.gmi
18:00 TR News; (NEW): Linux could leave Windows 11 in the dust as Intel hybrid CPUs get further optimizations https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Linux_could_leave_Windows_11_in_the_dust_as_Intel_hybrid_CPUs_g.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Linux_could_leave_Windows_11_in_the_dust_as_Intel_hybrid_CPUs_g.gmi
18:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux could leave Windows 11 in the dust as Intel hybrid CPUs get further optimizations
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18:18 TR News; "I am the largest contributor to Ubuntu by uploads in the last decade." https://jriddell.org/about-me/
18:18 TR Bot; About Me Jonathan Esk-Riddell's Diary
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:21 TR News; NetworkManager"bump version to 1.40.0" https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/tags/1.40.0
18:21 TR Bot; 1.40.0 Tags NetworkManager / NetworkManager GitLab
18:25 TR News; "Many years ago I bought a record player and started my own little record collection. I fell in love with handling, cleaning, and playing records from the very beginning. I grew up in the back-end of tapes and meat of the CD eras so records were new to me." gemini://gem.saayaa.space/gemlog/2022-08-26.gmi
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18:40 TR News; Links 26/08/2022: Lutris 0.5.11 and NetworkManager 1.40.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/networkmanager-1-40-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/networkmanager-1-40-0/
18:40 TR Bot; Links 26/08/2022: Lutris 0.5.11 and NetworkManager 1.40.0 | Techrights
18:41 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
18:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
18:43 TR News; Programming/Development: Nim and BaCon, GSoC https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Programming_Development_Nim_and_BaCon_GSoC.shtml Coding and Free software updates
18:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming/Development: Nim and BaCon, GSoC
18:43 TR News; today's howtos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.3.shtml 5 more howtos
18:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
18:43 TR News; KDE Snap Packages and New KDE neon Docker Image https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_Snap_Packages_and_New_KDE_neon_Docker_Image.shtml Jonathan Riddell's work
18:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Snap Packages and New KDE neon Docker Image
18:44 TR News; Mozilla: Firefox Censorship, Off-topic Marketing, and Thunderbird Wallpapers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Mozilla_Firefox_Censorship_Off_topic_Marketing_and_Thunderbird_.shtml Weird day for Mozilla...
18:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mozilla: Firefox Censorship, Off-topic Marketing, and Thunderbird Wallpapers
18:49 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
18:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
18:49 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
18:49 TR News; (NEW): Programming/Development: Nim and BaCon, GSoC https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Programming_Development_Nim_and_BaCon_GSoC.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Programming_Development_Nim_and_BaCon_GSoC.gmi
18:49 TR News; (NEW): Mozilla: Firefox Censorship, Off-topic Marketing, and Thunderbird Wallpapers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Mozilla_Firefox_Censorship_Off_topic_Marketing_and_Thunderbird_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Mozilla_Firefox_Censorship_Off_topic_Marketing_and_Thunderbird_.gmi
18:49 TR News; (NEW): KDE Snap Packages and New KDE neon Docker Image https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_Snap_Packages_and_New_KDE_neon_Docker_Image.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_Snap_Packages_and_New_KDE_neon_Docker_Image.gmi
18:50 TR News; (NEW): Top 10 Best Linux Distros for Privacy and Security https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distros_for_Privacy_and_Security.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distros_for_Privacy_and_Security.gmi
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18:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Top 10 Best Linux Distros for Privacy and Security
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18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.06
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19:27 TR News; For marketing reasons, first and foremost, companies like to say "developed in a lab" or "made in a lab" when it's always just mass-manufactured in a bloody factory. The idea is, maybe after they came up with something in experiments (with scientists) they got some formula, but they overcomplicate it to make it seem like it's meticulously tailored "just for you". Research-washing.
19:31 DaemonFC; I like how Biden's speeches always say "our kids" and not "your kids".
19:31 DaemonFC; It's a refreshing honesty that when you hae kids, you turn them over to the state.
19:32 DaemonFC; You have to pay for it, but they belong to the state.
19:32 DaemonFC; And you have to let the state brainwash them or you've committed the offense of not doing so.
19:32 DaemonFC; Those Christian schools are just as bad as the state ones. They take state money and encourage people to just "do whatever the state says" because "it's biblical".
19:33 DaemonFC; Whatever keeps the vouchers coming.
19:34 MinceR; maybe discuss that with "republicans"
19:38 DaemonFC; Either way, the kids learn just do whatever the government says.
19:38 DaemonFC; So you have to almost laugh when parents go "I'm taking my kids out of the failed public schools and putting them in schools that take government vouchers!".
19:39 DaemonFC; Then there's the ones that don't take government money so they aren't as regulated by the state.
19:39 DaemonFC; And they "aren't accredited" so the state takes their revenge on your children for escaping their propaganda.
19:39 DaemonFC; By saying they didn't graduate high school.
19:40 DaemonFC; So it's a classic no-win situation.
19:41 DaemonFC; The only way your children ever learn to hate the state as much as they should is if they get exposed to "radical" ideas that the state says are basically terrorism. Such as "taxation as theft" and becoming the victims of police harassment.
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19:45 DaemonFC; The IRS shouldn't be a welfare program. They should get rid of the Earned Income Tax Credit entirely.
19:45 DaemonFC; The IRS itself admits that about a third of the money that goes out is fraud and overpayments.
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19:46 DaemonFC; TANF has about a 1-2% overpayment rate.
19:46 DaemonFC; What if they just gave the money to the TANF program and increased the benefits from TANF?
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19:47 DaemonFC; Instead of going to fraudsters who file false tax returns and then the victim finds out about it when the IRS says "We're auditing you." and the victim didn't even get any money because it went to an abandoned house's mailbox in another state that a scammer was stealing the checks from, why don't they do that?
19:47 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman is an idiot.
19:47 DaemonFC; One of his posts said there's no reason to even try to fix this fraud because the scammers will spend the money and it will be "stimulus".
19:48 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: what about being homeschooled?
19:48 DaemonFC; I emailed him and said, "Well, what about the victims who get the IRS audit letter because they were the victim of the false return? And what about the IRS slapping a tax lien on their car and home and seizing their bank account? The money comes right back out of the ass of random people who were victims of a scam!".
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19:51 DaemonFC; There's real people who get hurt when scammers grab their Social Security Number and file false tax returns.
19:52 DaemonFC; And Stallman just goes "Well, the scammers will spend the money and create jobs, so what's the problem!?".
19:52 DaemonFC; This is almost, hardly something out of the mind of a guy who has his accomplishments in the field of computer science.
19:53 DaemonFC; The GNU project also tries to retcon the notion that the "open source" people didn't arrive on the scene until "1998" or so, when in fact the idea existed before the GNU project.
19:54 DaemonFC; The BSD modifications to UNIX were "open source", but I don't know if anyone was calling it that then or if the idea was just nameless but understood.
19:55 MinceR; that's an interesting idea
19:55 DaemonFC; Is open source a "watered down" concept of Free Software? That's one way to look at it. Free Software could also be viewed as a "stronger" protection for the users, but a variation of open source.
19:55 MinceR; starting a flamewar about what's the correct name for a nameless idea
19:56 DaemonFC; That's kind of what they did.
19:56 MinceR; currently "open source" means "disguise something that is only meant to serve one or more corporations to look like it was free software"
19:56 DaemonFC; The GNU project isn't as old as the X server, and wasn't that always under the MIT license?
19:57 DaemonFC; The X server is about a year older, right?
19:57 MinceR; how old is Emacs?
19:58 DaemonFC; March 20th, 1985
19:58 *DaemonFC should really make a Firefox extension to shift Wikipedia to en-US and US time/date formats.
19:58 DaemonFC; Does that exist?
19:59 techuser; standard non-compliance is evil
19:59 techuser; use ISO 8601
19:59 techuser; for all languages
20:00 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
20:00 TR Bot; X Window System - Wikipedia
20:00 MinceR; > X9 September 1985 Color. First release under MIT License.
20:00 DaemonFC; I flip the time and date settings in all the software I use. It's annoying, but you only have to do it once.
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20:04 DaemonFC; The original BSD code was just a set of add-ons to AT&T UNIX, but weren't they under the original BSD license with the "advertising clause"?
20:05 DaemonFC; The FSF recognizes that one as "Free" but "the advertising clause is annoying and we discourage using that version of the license".
20:07 DaemonFC; The way a Linux system behaves today is all over the place.
20:07 DaemonFC; systemd seems to me to be a really bad attempt to copy Solaris SMF.
20:09 DaemonFC; MinceR, If I had to describe systemd and some of the other things Red Hat has done it would be this....
20:09 DaemonFC; "And now a Really Bad Lip Reading of Solaris."
20:10 DaemonFC; The SMF was considered for porting to Linux by Canonical in 2006 to replace init, and I think it would have worked out a lot better than systemd.
20:11 DaemonFC; They rejected the SMF though for being "too complex", which is amusing really, because systemd has grown to encapsulate most of userspace now and is too large to comfortably understand anymore.
20:11 DaemonFC; OpenSolaris booted up faster than Ubuntu did on my laptop when I used it.
20:12 DaemonFC; There was a lot of anti-ZFS stuff going around too. Like, it was slow and needed a ton of RAM. Nonsense.
20:12 DaemonFC; It ran fine on a single core mobile Sempron with 1 GB of RAM in the entire computer.
20:13 DaemonFC; The worst thing about Solaris was its engineers apparently were worried about their code ending up in Linux and requested an incompatible license.
20:14 DaemonFC; If they had brought in SMF to Linux, which I think would have worked out pretty well compared to this, we wouldn't have "systemd" which is designed by a guy who now works at Microsoft.
20:14 DaemonFC; Which is obviously an attempt to sabotage Linux and weigh it down with security problems and technical debt and code bloat.
20:14 DaemonFC; (which worked)
20:15 DaemonFC; Even the people who claim they've got a systemd-free Linux system usually end up with pieces of it anyway.
20:15 DaemonFC; Because it's become very hard to actually thoroughly escape.
20:16 DaemonFC; The DNS resolver alone is a scandal.
20:18 MinceR; DaemonFC: i doubt slowlaris has enough bad ideas in it for systemd
20:18 MinceR; does slowlaris stuff multiple services into the same process?
20:18 DaemonFC; No it didn't.
20:19 DaemonFC; Why, did Poetteringd copy the Windows svchost? That was really useful for viruses.
20:19 DaemonFC; And if a service crashed, then it could cause multiple crashes because the svchost containing them died.
20:19 MinceR; no, but he did stuff a ton of unrelated functionality into systemd
20:19 MinceR; all of it implemented poorly, of course
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:20 DaemonFC; I think Microsoft's solution with svchost was to run a separate svchost for each service to get around the "one crash to take out the whole OS" problem.
20:20 DaemonFC; Which defeats the point.
20:20 MinceR; what a wonderful "solution"
20:21 DaemonFC; svchost was originally a way to save RAM by cramming a bunch of services into a single process.
20:21 DaemonFC; But it created stability problems instead.
20:22 DaemonFC; Then when computers got more RAM, it made sense to run separate services again, but parts of Windows depend on svchost to be running services.
20:22 DaemonFC; So now there's an overhead for svchost running one service per instance.
20:22 MinceR; it wouldn't have been necessary to save RAM in this way if they used a kernel designed by someone competent
20:23 MinceR; like any unix out there, for example
20:23 DaemonFC; Microsoft has always aimed to appease junk computer vendors, you know.
20:23 DaemonFC; The more computers they claimed NT *could* run on, the more marketshare they could hope to get.
20:24 DaemonFC; So if a really nasty hack saved 1-2 MB of RAM, that's what you did.
20:25 MinceR; they were never willing to design or implement something properly to reduce the waste of resources, though
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20:34 DaemonFC; No, it becomes easier to just quickly design around problems even if those create bigger problems later.
20:34 DaemonFC; Like the mess they created with their C standard library.
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20:37 DaemonFC; They decided to bump the C Standard library and just tell application vendors to bundle their own private copy of it instead of rolling it out through Windows Update and telling them use the version "7" library if you want to. It's in the C:\Windows folder. If you want the version "6" library, just link to the same one or don't specify which one you want.
20:37 DaemonFC; Then when there were dozens of copies on the system and they started getting security vulnerabilities reported on them, there was no system keeping them all up to date.
20:38 DaemonFC; Something similar happened to gdiplus.dll, and Microsoft released a tool that attempted to find all of them and patch them all.
20:39 DaemonFC; And it ended up patching some of them wrong and causing application failures. :)
20:40 DaemonFC; Because some programs were modifying the dll either in their private copy or after it was loaded, by patching it in memory, and Microsoft's security update changed the assumptions of where everything inside the dll was located.
20:41 DaemonFC; "Simple. Change the gravitational constant of the universe!" -Q (on how to get an asteroid out of the way before it impacted on a planet)
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20:55 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/universal-2
20:55 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Universal
20:57 souseksi; MinceR: funny comic. Thank you for sharing.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 91.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.60
20:59 MinceR; np
21:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, Half your country is in danger of having the gas shut off by winter.
21:09 DaemonFC; Half.
21:09 DaemonFC; I wonder what that is here. We have LIHEAP, you know, so the government will basically pay for it for the very poorest households.
21:09 DaemonFC; Under 125% of the Federal Poverty Line.
21:09 DaemonFC; It's not just going to let THEM freeze to death.
21:09 DaemonFC; But that doesn't help us.
21:10 DaemonFC; Mandy and I don't qualify for LIHEAP.
21:10 DaemonFC; So we get to turn the heater off and wrap ourselves in sleeping bags like we were out in the wilderness, so we can afford to pay lawyers and dentists and landlords and shit.
21:10 DaemonFC; (Oh my!)
21:11 DaemonFC; Lawyers and dentists and landlords and shit, oh my! Lawyers and dentists and landlords and shit, oh my!
21:11 DaemonFC; People wonder why I'm fucking pissed.
21:11 DaemonFC; Damn this state to hell!
21:12 DaemonFC; I'm sure that loner has it worse in Germany.
21:12 DaemonFC; But nobody's really happy with what their government is up to.
21:12 DaemonFC; Except people with so much money they'll never worry about it, which is fewer and fewer.
21:12 DaemonFC; Even MARISOL got knocked down a couple of pegs.
21:12 souseksi; DaemonFC: please don't get upset.
21:13 starstreak; lol
21:13 DaemonFC; I dug out the hair clippers and gave myself another haircut in the mirror last night.
21:13 DaemonFC; I started doing that in April of 2020 because the government shut down all of the haircut places.
21:14 DaemonFC; And at first I looked awful, and then eventually I got better and better at it.
21:14 DaemonFC; It's hair. It grows back. You can just keep trying until you're better at it.
21:14 DaemonFC; Then you don't have to pay anyone to take care of this.
21:14 souseksi; DaemonFC: Remarkable coincidence! Yesterday I went to the hairdresser and got my hair cut too.
21:15 souseksi; I don't mind that I paid a little for it.
21:15 DaemonFC; Well, I wonder how many people realized how much money was going out the door to the haircut places and just stopped going there and had each family member taking turns giving the others haircuts.
21:15 DaemonFC; In turn, in "macro", some hair stylists lost their jobs forever because of Governor Prickster.
21:16 souseksi; A friend of mine recently told me that his mother cut his hair, but it turned out so badly that he had to cut it bald.
21:16 DaemonFC; Because if you have tens of thousands of people in a state never going to get a professional haircut again, hundreds of hair stylists lose their job because business is too slow to continue justifying their employment.
21:16 DaemonFC; Then you magnify that to the entire country, and thousands of them lose their job permanently.
21:17 DaemonFC; An entire small city's worth of people lose their jobs cutting hair.
21:17 DaemonFC; <souseksi> I don't mind that I paid a little for it.
21:17 DaemonFC; It's like any ongoing expense.
21:17 DaemonFC; Spending $15 getting your hair cut once is a nuisance.
21:18 DaemonFC; You got two people in the house, it's $30, then there's a tip, so $40 minimum so you're not an asshole who doesn't tip.
21:18 DaemonFC; Then you take that and over a year it's about $500 right. With tax and tip, over $500.
21:19 DaemonFC; And that means over 10 years, $5,000 (in constant dollars) has gone out the door, over hair.
21:19 souseksi; Taken into consideration.
21:19 souseksi; I want to grow long hair when I move out of my parents' house, then I won't pay hairdressers.
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21:20 souseksi; techrights-ipfs-bot: thank you for update.
21:21 DaemonFC; $5,000 is still....not nothing.
21:21 DaemonFC; But people waste all kinds of money in small amounts at a time, not thinking about it.
21:22 DaemonFC; It's how it becomes possible to rationalize money going out the door for streaming sites and microtransactions and daily trips to get coffee at a restaurant.
21:22 DaemonFC; I've talked to schestowitz-TR2 about that before.
21:22 souseksi; DaemonFC: Thank you for sharing yout thoughts and calculations.
21:22 DaemonFC; Bad habits promote bad habits.
21:22 DaemonFC; Soon it's hundreds a month on shit you don't even need and you don't consider it because it's all small at that point in time.
21:23 DaemonFC; :)
21:23 DaemonFC; When I was 7 years old, I remember the price for cigarettes and fountain drinks at the convenience store down the street from my Aunt's house, because she was addicted to both.
21:23 DaemonFC; She used to sit there drinking a giant fountain drink and smoking a cigarette, right there in the store.
21:24 DaemonFC; It was barely over a dollar for a pack of cigarettes and 59 cents for a fountain drink in 1990.
21:25 DaemonFC; It's probably better to gauge inflation by the fountain drinks than the cigarettes because the anti-smoking campaign and revenue departments have cracked down on the cigarettes.
21:25 souseksi; I'm not going to smoke because the smell of cigarette smoke makes me sick.
21:25 DaemonFC; Those are like $9-15 a pack now. Like $8 even in Indiana.
21:25 DaemonFC; But there's a skewed measure of inflation, because it's mainly tax.
21:26 DaemonFC; The fountain drinks tend to be about $1.29-1.49 in my area. That's actually on the lower end of the inflation multiple since 1990. Only doubling since 30 years ago.
21:26 DaemonFC; That's also skewed, of course, because fountain drinks are mostly syrup, the cost of the cup, and profit for the store.
21:27 DaemonFC; Even today, it's probably not even 15-20 cents for the actual costs.
21:27 DaemonFC; That's a very good margin.
21:27 DaemonFC; They'd still make money at 59 cents, just not a lot of money.
21:28 DaemonFC; I try to figure out what inflation actually is. It's something like a hobby.
21:28 DaemonFC; The government has every reason to lie and make it look good.
21:28 DaemonFC; That way people look at the figures and see it's quite under control even though their rents and food are quite bad and half the country risks having their gas shut off this winter.
21:29 DaemonFC; So if you're not simply going to lie, you skew your formula to over-represent things that people probably don't actually buy much of, but where it will keep the headline inflation number lower.
21:32 starstreak; https://www.wsj.com/articles/mark-zuckerberg-says-waking-up-in-the-morning-is-like-getting-punched-in-the-stomach-11661540231
21:32 TR Bot; Zuckerberg Tells Joe Rogan Waking Up in the Morning Is Like Getting Punched in the Stomach - WSJ
21:33 souseksi; starstreak: Thank you for sharing link.
21:34 MinceR; maybe he should stop doing that, then
21:35 starstreak; I want to see the full episode of Mark Zuckerberg on Joe Rogan
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21:41 s98259; o.o
21:41 souseksi; :-()
21:42 s98259; souseksi: Hi! :D
21:43 souseksi; Hello!
21:46 s98259; :3
21:47 souseksi; s98259: How was your day?
21:47 s98259; souseksi: Good :D and yours?
21:48 souseksi; Mine too. Glad you asked.
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21:52 s98259; :)
21:54 DaemonFC; MinceR, It must be terribly depressing and demoralizing to be a billionaire who wakes up in the morning and with nothing to do except kill the boredom and sorrow by taking a 30 minute plane ride to your little yacht so you can go dock with your superyacht.
21:57 MinceR; yeah
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22:20 DaemonFC; Then you can go dock your superyacht with the superduperyacht and hang out with other rich people out in international waters where you can do whatever you want.
22:20 souseksi; techrights-ipfs-bot: Thank you for update!
22:22 XRevan86; https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-crimes-government-and-politics-0abd99fd89a62042287341e88758d32f
22:22 TR Bot; Ukraine train system attacks may be war crimes, experts say | AP News
22:23 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
22:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
22:23 XRevan86; https://reuters.com/markets/commodities/coca-cola-bottler-starts-making-dobry-cola-russia-2022-08-26/
22:23 TR Bot; bottler starts making 'Dobry Cola' in Russia | Reuters
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; debris cola
22:24 MinceR; sounds polish
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; fanta all over again
22:24 XRevan86; MinceR: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/dobr%D1%8A#Derived_terms
22:24 TR Bot; Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/dobr - Wiktionary
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; "Daddy, if coca cola starts making new names for products here, does it means we've turned into nazis?"
22:25 XRevan86; That'll show 'em.
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; aggi: coca cola did nothing wrong!
22:25 MinceR; i was only taught about
22:25 *XRevan86 doesn't know what that's supposed to show us.
22:28 XRevan86; MinceR: The distinction is complicated.
22:28 XRevan86; Anyway, Dobry is the Coca-Cola's Russian (mediocre) juice brand.
22:30 MinceR; :)
22:30 souseksi; Some Slavs avoid using the word "", preferring synonyms "" and "". This is partly a matter of religious beliefs.
22:30 MinceR; strange
22:31 XRevan86; That's new to me.
22:34 souseksi; For the same reasons, these people use the word "" to express gratitude, instead of the more common "".
22:34 TR News; (NEW): KDE Snap Packages now on ARM and KDE Invent CI https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_Snap_Packages_now_on_ARM_and_KDE_Invent_CI.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_Snap_Packages_now_on_ARM_and_KDE_Invent_CI.gmi
22:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Snap Packages now on ARM and KDE Invent CI"
22:34 TR News; (NEW): KDE neon Docker Images now on 22.04LTS https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_neon_Docker_Images_now_on_22_04LTS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/KDE_neon_Docker_Images_now_on_22_04LTS.gmi
22:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE neon Docker Images now on 22.04LTS
22:35 souseksi; techrights-news: Thank you for sharing news.
22:35 XRevan86; souseksi: Exclusively?
22:36 XRevan86; Is it because "" has a mention of Go~ embedded in it?
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22:43 psydruid;
22:43 TR News; Traffic in Social Control Media is Fake, Based on Whistleblowers Too | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/fake-social-control-media/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/fake-social-control-media/
22:43 TR Bot; Traffic in Social Control Media is Fake, Based on Whistleblowers Too | Techrights
22:45 souseksi; XRevan86: The prejudices associated with the word "" are old, and people with different beliefs give different arguments against using this word. Most often explain the origin of the word "" from the expression " " (God save). Therefore, Old Believers avoid this word: when you say "" to another person, it can be interpreted as " " (God save me fro
22:45 souseksi; m you) and so you can invite trouble on the one to whom they are approaching. But people who do not share Christian beliefs, for example, Rodnovers, may have other arguments (i heard pagans arguing that "" origins from the word "" (pasture), and you can't address people like that).
22:45 techuser; oh, one more Russian-speaking user here?
22:45 souseksi; Privet.
22:45 techuser; privet
22:46 techuser; I'm on in a few Russian-speaking channels elsewhere, if it matters
22:46 techuser; I can PM
22:46 XRevan86; souseksi: .
22:48 souseksi; techuser: I don't mind, but I don't think I can be an interesting conversationalist
22:48 XRevan86; souseksi: I did hear about the Staroviers doing that, I've simply forgotten.
22:48 MinceR; and what's the reason for not using ?
22:48 techuser; XRevan86: should I tell you too?
22:48 MinceR; i see no bits of "" in there
22:48 techuser; is MinceR also Russian-speaking?
22:48 MinceR; i've learned a bit of it
22:48 MinceR; a long time ago
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22:51 techuser; cuddlybear66 said she knows Russian a bit too
22:51 souseksi; MinceR: "", according to superstitious people, works as a feed for the egregore of strangers who do not belong to the Slavic family of Gods, since it contains a mention of the ancient Egyptian god Horus. This is not as common a prejudice as the previous one I described, but it exists. It is proposed to use the word "" because it goes back to the name of the Slavic goddess Lada.
22:51 MinceR; lol
22:52 MinceR; they don't mind referring to Lada while being supposed to only worship Yahweh?
22:52 *MinceR proposes usage of "JAFFA! KREE!" instead of ""
22:53 souseksi; This prejudice exists among neo-pagans who deny the Christian religion as non-native to the Slavs.
22:53 MinceR; ic
22:53 cuddlybear66; hii
22:53 techuser; hi
22:54 souseksi; Hello.
22:54 MinceR; hay
22:54 cuddlybear66; how r u guys
22:54 MinceR; fine but tired
22:55 techuser; as usual, probably
22:55 MinceR; a bit more
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22:55 starstreak; * MinceR proposes usage of "JAFFA! KREE!" instead of "" <--- +1
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22:56 MinceR; i drove to a town ~30km from here to shop at 3 places, then drove back home, then worked for ~7h
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 52.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 92.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.18
23:01 XRevan86; souseksi: That's very activelow-esque but with a Slavic twist.
23:02 MinceR; :>
23:04 starstreak; lol
23:06 starstreak; speaking of activelow, loner seems to be gone
23:06 starstreak; i wonder what their next name will be
23:07 schestowitz[TR]; homelander
23:07 schestowitz[TR]; hollander
23:07 TR News; Amid Layoffs (Culling of Almost 20,000 Permanent Microsoft Employees) the Market Share of Microsoft/Windows/IIS Continues to Collapse in the World Wide Web | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/august-2022-web-server-survey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/august-2022-web-server-survey/
23:07 TR Bot; Amid Layoffs (Culling of Almost 20,000 Permanent Microsoft Employees) the Market Share of Microsoft/Windows/IIS Continues to Collapse in the World Wide Web | Techrights
23:07 schestowitz[TR]; kraut?
23:07 starstreak; nazilover
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; hisleright
23:08 starstreak; fedora 37 will support the raspi4
23:09 starstreak; someone was telling me that sway runs great on raspi4
23:10 starstreak; sway is kinda cool but i prefer gnome
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23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:23 techuser; I wonder if XRevan86 did notice my question
23:24 techuser; about whether I should tell you addresses of the Russian IRC channels I'm on
23:25 TR News; GNU/Linux Market Share Worldwide, Based on 3 Million Sites Logs, Rose to All-Time High (3%) This Month | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/august-desktops-laptops/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/august-desktops-laptops/
23:25 TR Bot; GNU/Linux Market Share Worldwide, Based on 3 Million Sites Logs, Rose to All-Time High (3%) This Month | Techrights
23:26 XRevan86; techuser: Which network?
23:26 techuser; will PM
23:26 TR News; Giant 'kraken' carcass with dinner plate-size eyes washes ashore in South Africa | Live Science https://www.livescience.com/giant-squid-cape-town-beach Source: Live Science | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.livescience.com/giant-squid-cape-town-beach
23:26 TR Bot; Giant 'kraken' carcass with dinner plate-size eyes washes ashore in South Africa | Live Science
23:26 souseksi; techrights-news: thank you for publishing interesting articles.
23:28 techuser; did PM
23:28 TR News; Get into Linux Now!! @Women In Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=najDW6cTQ-0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/najDW6cTQ-0
23:28 TR Bot; Get into Linux Now!! @Women In Linux - Invidious
23:29 TR News; LHS Episode #478: The Weekender XCV https://lhspodcast.info/2022/08/lhs-episode-478-the-weekender-xcv-2/
23:29 TR Bot; LHS Episode #478: The Weekender XCV | Linux in the Ham Shack
23:30 TR News; "As people leave Mozilla, the libraries, processes, services, and other responsibilities (hidden and visible) all suddenly become unowned. In some cases, these things get passed to teams and individuals and there's a clear handoff. In a lot of cases, stuff just gets dropped on the floor." https://bluesock.org/~willkg/blog/mozilla/volunteer_responsibility_amnesty_day_2022_06.html
23:30 TR Bot; Volunteer Responsibility Amnesty Day: 06-2022 | Will's Blog
23:30 TR News; Baker is cooking Mozilla
23:31 TR News; Mozilla Accessibility: Cache the World Opt In Preview https://blog.mozilla.org/accessibility/cache-the-world-opt-in-preview/
23:31 TR Bot; Cache the World Opt In Preview - Mozilla Accessibility
23:33 TR News; "Please join us at the next regular Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 29 August at 1300 UTC. The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend." https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/08/26/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-29-August-1300-utc.html
23:33 TR Bot; Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 29 August 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog
23:33 TR News; "Heres your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)! The F37 Beta freeze is underway!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-34/
23:33 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-34 Fedora Community Blog
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23:38 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 22.10: Top New Features and Release Wiki https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Ubuntu_22_10_Top_New_Features_and_Release_Wiki.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/Ubuntu_22_10_Top_New_Features_and_Release_Wiki.gmi
23:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.10: Top New Features and Release Wiki
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23:44 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-25-08-26
23:44 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 25 Telegraph
23:44 starstreak; im watching this cool show called "Breaking In"
23:46 souseksi; starstreak: I wish you a pleasant watching of the show.
23:46 starstreak; souseksi, thanks, you're extremely polite :)
23:47 souseksi; starstreak: You are welcome.
23:53 TR News; (NEW): This week in KDE: Re-bindable mouse buttons - Adventures in Linux and KDE https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/This_week_in_KDE_Re_bindable_mouse_buttons_Adventures_in_Linux_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/26/This_week_in_KDE_Re_bindable_mouse_buttons_Adventures_in_Linux_.gmi
23:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines This week in KDE: Re-bindable mouse buttons - Adventures in Linux and KDE
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