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beginning of new day, August 25

00:00 starstreak; activelow detected ^^

00:05 TR News; More vacuous and hypocritical privacy posing from Mozilla https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/08/24/its-time-to-pass-u-s-federal-privacy-legislation/

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00:05 TR Bot; It's Time to Pass U.S. Federal Privacy Legislation - Open Policy & Advocacy

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00:06 schestowitz[TR]; activeLone

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00:09 TR News; (UPDATED): $29 Inovato Quadra Arm mini PC runs Armbian on Allwinner H6 processor (UPDATEDx2) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/_29_Inovato_Quadra_Arm_mini_PC_runs_Armbian_on_Allwinner_H6_pro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/_29_Inovato_Quadra_Arm_mini_PC_runs_Armbian_on_Allwinner_H6_pro.gmi

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00:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines $29 Inovato Quadra Arm mini PC runs Armbian on Allwinner H6 processor (UPDATEDx2)

00:10 TR News; Classic Macintosh gets a massive ePaper display | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/24/classic-macintosh-gets-a-massive-epaper-display/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/24/classic-macintosh-gets-a-massive-epaper-display/

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00:10 TR Bot; Classic Macintosh gets a massive ePaper display | Arduino Blog

00:11 loner; "$29 Inovato Quadra Arm mini PC runs Armbian on Allwinner H6 processor" ... and?

00:12 loner; there's no freedom of choice with such either

00:12 DaemonFC; "WebKit as a project will need to reassess certain software development practices that may have facilitated the abuse of these vulnerabilities. The practice of committing security fixes to open source long in advance of corresponding Safari releases may need to be reconsidered."

00:12 starstreak; linux is also a hell of a lot faster than windows

00:12 DaemonFC; Apple has never pushed security fixes to their users very fast.

00:12 loner; ^ it isn't

00:13 starstreak; XD

00:13 DaemonFC; WebkitGTK doesn't suffer from this as much.

00:13 DaemonFC; If there's a security patch, it goes in the monthly WebkitGTK security rollup.

00:13 starstreak; it is on my system

00:13 DaemonFC; Sometimes Apple doesn't even ship the patch for 6-8 months and that gives nation states like China plenty of time to attack Safari users.

00:14 starstreak; linux has a way better scheduler so apps actually use all my threads

00:14 DaemonFC; Which means that Apple's Webkit-only rule makes their security mess every other browser's problem too on the iPhone.

00:14 starstreak; windows is properietary too

00:14 TR News; "PureOS on the Librem 5 USA has a long list of default capabilities and a longer list of applications that are available to install and an even longer list of applications that are coming." https://puri.sm/posts/pureos-on-the-librem-5-usa-summer-2022-snapshot/

↺ https://puri.sm/posts/pureos-on-the-librem-5-usa-summer-2022-snapshot/

00:14 TR Bot; PureOS on the Librem 5 USA Summer 2022 Snapshot Purism

00:14 MinceR; expecting security on an iGrenade is Doing It Wrong

00:14 DaemonFC; Apple should be bumping Webkit for security problems every month or so like GNOME does.

00:15 starstreak; i would trust a pinephone over android

00:15 starstreak; pinephone > ios > android

00:15 loner; at least, with w3m/lynx/links some _real_ alternative remained... however which libc could be digested without vendor-specific anti-competitive ASM?

00:15 DaemonFC; I can use Privacy Browser on Android.

00:16 DaemonFC; It disables JavaShit by default. Which of course breaks AMP because this "open source" framework makes everyone first call out to a JavaShit file that's nearly 100 KB and hosted only by GULAG.

00:16 DaemonFC; mjg59_ probably thinks this is fine too.

00:17 loner; problem isn't "free software" follows "innovative" trends, problem is any real alternative is locked out, by anti-competitive practices

00:17 DaemonFC; Even if you could locally host all of your own resources, AMP is terrible.

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00:17 loner; and, GNU/FSF etc. do follow the anti-competitive practices

00:17 DaemonFC; Normal Web pages at least work somewhat without JavaShit. All you get with AMP is a blank page.

00:18 loner; just recently, the last remaining news site, www.dw.com, "improved" their web site: "need JavaShit" now...

00:18 TR News; (NEW): Everything You Need to Know About Linux Mint https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Everything_You_Need_to_Know_About_Linux_Mint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Everything_You_Need_to_Know_About_Linux_Mint.gmi

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00:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Everything You Need to Know About Linux Mint"

00:18 techuser; normal? AMP may become new normal!

00:18 TR News; (UPDATED): Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.gmi

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00:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3)

00:18 DaemonFC; Every year, the list of reasons to load Brendan Eich into a SpaceX capsule as the dummy payload grows longer.

00:19 TR News; "So you build a GitLab project, you created a pipeline and then a scheduler to run every week your pipeline. And then you realize that you are polluting the internet with deprecated (garbage) things, at some point you have a debug option on, bla bla bla etc etc. It is time to clean up your mess!" https://balaskas.gr/blog/2022/08/24/remove-previous-gitlab-pipelines-from-a-project/

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00:19 TR Bot; - Remove Previous GitLab Pipelines from a project Evaggelos Balaskas - System Engineer

00:20 TR News; (NEW): Kate - New Features - August 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kate_New_Features_August_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kate_New_Features_August_2022.gmi

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00:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kate - New Features - August 2022

00:20 DaemonFC; There's a continuation of some of Netscape's Web server programs.

00:20 MinceR; i'm not quite sure how this DT_HASH issue is an ABI issue, honestly

00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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00:20 DaemonFC; Red Hat got ahold of them and kept developing them, and now IBM owns it.

00:20 MinceR; i thought random applications didn't need to read any of this, as it was the dynamic linker's job?

00:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you used to link a lot to AMP pages

00:20 DaemonFC; I didn't really stop to consider what it was.

00:20 schestowitz[TR]; 'pages'

00:21 DaemonFC; That's how they get you.

00:21 DaemonFC; That and their GULAG Now app prefers AMP and won't show you normal pages.

00:21 schestowitz[TR]; The Register adopted it

00:21 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder if all those URLs you gave here still work at all

00:21 schestowitz[TR]; or fail gracefully, for now..

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; Gulagf didn't have enough with its browser monopolies

00:22 DaemonFC; Now I have the AMP redirect extension in my browser.

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; it also wanted to serve you all the pages from its OWN servers

00:22 schestowitz[TR]; next it will compltely block people from entering techrights

00:22 loner; situation is, i would be willing too, to drop all multimedia capabilities (which i still got with gcc47 c-only toolchain)

00:23 schestowitz[TR]; saying techrights is not in the CA cartel

00:23 schestowitz[TR]; hence, "dangerous"

00:23 loner; however, with the libc and ASM issue, even this wouldn' suffice, to retain some minimal *nix development box

00:23 DaemonFC; I don't know that I'll ever get a cat again.

00:23 DaemonFC; I'll obviously keep my two that I have now but it really makes things difficult.

00:24 loner; and that's why i am asking, how would i pose a threat to the business prospects of any of the "made in usa" "free software" corporates?

00:24 DaemonFC; Moving, paying vet bills, extra deposits, landlords going "I don't know. The list of things I don't like is getting long.".

00:24 DaemonFC; Saying goodbye someday breaks your heart.

00:24 loner; what's the real incentive of Pentagon, to lock out any alternative with their anti-competitive shitware?

00:24 loner; i haven't got a libc anymore.

00:25 DaemonFC; Some people have a lot of money and can't move past their last cat or dog, so they pay for some unethical cloning job.

00:25 DaemonFC; Then $12,000 later when a lot of failed clones died horribly, they get their cat.

00:25 DaemonFC; And it doesn't remember them, of course, and doesn't act like the cat it was cloned from.

00:26 DaemonFC; My Bobcat is a sweet little kitty, but learning that everything has to end is one of the horrible parts of life.

00:27 DaemonFC; I think one of the reasons that people today are so mentally fucked is because instead of dealing with trauma, they've regressed, mentally, into childhood.

00:27 DaemonFC; Where they felt safe, and comfortable.

00:28 DaemonFC; Life isn't safe. In fact, it does terrible things to you every year, maybe even every day, and more is coming.

00:28 DaemonFC; So people have picked crazy things to bicker about, like gender pronouns.

00:28 DaemonFC; It's a weird hill to die on. Insisting that refusal to say they/them is a big deal in the scheme of things.

00:29 MinceR; regressed -- or never progressed out of

00:29 DaemonFC; Yeah.

00:29 starstreak; https://external-preview.redd.it/M0KR8QVJSZAhW-6meBIKkNQruCX7S0CDp3PdK2FtaSc.jpg?auto=webp&s=dd13913521dbf296746dbd1006730763512e41bc

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00:29 TR News; (NEW): [compiz] Compiz 0.9.14.2 released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/_compiz_Compiz_0_9_14_2_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/_compiz_Compiz_0_9_14_2_released.gmi

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00:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines [compiz] Compiz 0.9.14.2 released

00:29 DaemonFC; People who physically age, maybe accumulate knowledge, and manage to go to work and pay their taxes.

00:30 DaemonFC; But they have the mind of a child.

00:30 schestowitz[TR]; they still buy toys

00:30 schestowitz[TR]; but the more expensive types

00:30 DaemonFC; Yeah, MARISOL.

00:30 schestowitz[TR]; ones that might be metal and plastic

00:30 schestowitz[TR]; not just plastic

00:31 schestowitz[TR]; payd for by plastic

00:31 schestowitz[TR]; (card)

00:31 DaemonFC; And then their employer cuts their earnings potential with no warning, but all of these bills are not able to be renegotiated.

00:31 DaemonFC; So they're stuck dealing with that for years, and if they're smart they won't build the pile any higher.

00:31 schestowitz[TR]; the best thing, I found, was learning to live with less

00:31 schestowitz[TR]; smaller budget, fewer things to maintain

00:31 schestowitz[TR]; then you stop worrying

00:32 schestowitz[TR]; you can also save a bit

00:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yes, MARISOL has loaded them up with debt that can't be negotiated anymore.

00:32 schestowitz[TR]; save actual currency

00:32 schestowitz[TR]; not earpods

00:32 techuser; idk how to be happy

00:32 techuser; seems buying things doesn't make me happy

00:32 DaemonFC; She signed the mortgage, the car loans, the credit card applications (and loaded them all up and got more in Marks name and loaded those up).

00:32 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: write down what you like

00:32 DaemonFC; And they had two kids that rightfully hate her.

00:32 schestowitz[TR]; things you do enjoy do more of them

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00:32 DaemonFC; I feel for the kids, I really do.

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00:33 techuser; computers maybe? But they get destroyed by corporations all the time

00:33 DaemonFC; Mandy told me that their kids refer to her as "that bitch".

00:33 techuser; my life was about computers since early childhood

00:33 DaemonFC; She was slapping her daughter around the house one day for that.

00:33 techuser; then I noticed things are bad

00:33 DaemonFC; Because, right to her face.

00:33 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: computers can still last 10+ years

00:33 loner; schestowitz[TR]: 50years

00:33 schestowitz[TR]; if you treat them OK and repair

00:33 schestowitz[TR]; loner: at 50 even the plastics are yellowing

00:34 techuser; yes, if we don't have shitty software (or shitty updates, idk)

00:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It's not the fault of their kids that their parents are horrible people.

00:34 techuser; cuddlybear66: ^ parents

00:34 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: if you enjoy iurc, do more of it

00:34 schestowitz[TR]; better than killing time on "games"

00:34 schestowitz[TR]; also cheaper

00:34 techuser; IRC is being ruined by IRCv3

00:34 DaemonFC; Part of the reason I haven't handed their mom over to the IRS, yet, is because their kids would suffer for it.

00:34 loner; a raspi 1.3 1GH 512MiB RAM is year 2000, roughly, and with "free software" tailored for such a thing, it is good enough for another 20 years

00:34 DaemonFC; I'd be hurting people who don't deserve it and are in her orbit.

00:34 techuser; pirated videogames are ok

00:35 starstreak; <techuser> IRC is being ruined by IRCv3 <--- how so?

00:35 techuser; embrace, extend and extinguish

00:35 techuser; will kill IRC

00:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's compatible mostly

00:35 techuser; eventually they will say compatibility needs to be sacrificed

00:35 starstreak; is irc adding image support? cuz i love memes

00:35 schestowitz[TR]; ircv3 = some more features you can use

00:35 loner; however, just as said, with "free software", i haven't got at least a libc anymore

00:36 starstreak; thats why i love discord, its like irc with graphical memes

00:36 loner; well then, back to this

00:36 loner; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer

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00:36 TR Bot; Apollo Guidance Computer - Wikipedia

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: irc does meme

00:36 DaemonFC; Even ChatZilla is IRCv3 compatible.

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; you put a url

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; then people click on them

00:36 loner; that's ttl7400 series era computing... why not? maybe at least this one remained free as in free as in free

00:36 DaemonFC; So it's not like there's a shortage of client software.

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; and they can opt out

00:36 techuser; DaemonFC: yes, so the cancer grows

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; by not clicking

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; or

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; some irc clients will render image links

00:36 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], fair enough but i like seeing them as part of the chat

00:36 techuser; stop turning IRC to Discord

00:36 DaemonFC; Update your damned software. If it's so old you can't use IRCv3, what security issues are in it?

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; I have one irc client that shows previews of urls in irc

00:36 techuser; fuck your updates

00:36 starstreak; techuser, LOL XD

00:36 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. it uses browser components

00:37 DaemonFC; Saying IRCv3 is Discord is ridiculous.

00:37 techuser; I can't be happy with it

00:37 schestowitz[TR]; so if you link to images it'll render them

00:37 starstreak; what irc client renders images?

00:37 techuser; IRC gets destroyed as society does

00:37 starstreak; im using hexchat and it doesnt

00:37 CrystalMath; techuser: it's all backwards compatible though

00:37 DaemonFC; If it were Discord, schestowitz[TR] would be forcing you to go to discord's Web site and load JavaShit, and a 600 MB browser tab, and he'd have no control over his "server" which wouldn't be a server.

00:37 schestowitz[TR]; I am using xchat at the moment

00:37 loner; catgirl irc client seems decent, just saying

00:37 loner; it easily links against bearssl-libtls too

00:37 schestowitz[TR]; xchat 2.8.8

00:37 CrystalMath; techuser: people can still join in with ircjr on DOS, and it works :)

00:37 schestowitz[TR]; compiled 2 years ago

00:38 techuser; iirc catgirl is evil

00:38 starstreak; one of the nice things about irc imo is that i could use dosbox-x with networking, windows 3.11 with tcp/ip and mIRC worked in 2022

00:38 techuser; because working with TLS only

00:38 schestowitz[TR]; we support non-tls

00:38 schestowitz[TR]; intentionally

00:38 CrystalMath; techuser: TLS-only is a per-server decision

00:38 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], ooooo

00:38 DaemonFC; There are good reasons to use TLS on IRC. Like, so your ISP can't log the text.

00:38 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: but not here, since the text is logged onto an HTTP server

00:39 CrystalMath; :P

00:39 CrystalMath; everybody's ISP can see this

00:39 schestowitz[TR]; CrystalMath: not all channels

00:39 schestowitz[TR]; only 5 channels

00:39 CrystalMath; i mean, everybody and their ISP

00:39 schestowitz[TR]; not direct messages and all the other channels

00:39 CrystalMath; right

00:39 DaemonFC; The ISP bulk data collection programs want to know about you.

00:39 DaemonFC; Want to know all about you.....

00:39 DaemonFC; (singing(

00:39 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG did that!

00:40 DaemonFC; While he "changed them from within".

00:40 DaemonFC; :P

00:41 DaemonFC; I've been using Searx.be for searches and it mostly works fine.

00:41 DaemonFC; You can tell there's a clear disgust for things like GULAG and JavaShit applications, which is what New Reddit is.

00:41 techuser; waiting until they put JS onto IRC?

00:42 DaemonFC; Oh, you could use JavaShit in IRC with ChatZilla in the late 90s.

00:42 DaemonFC; That's what it's written in, and so you can also change it with JavaShit.

00:42 DaemonFC; :)

00:42 loner; catgirl irc too got a bouncer, pounce... not bad

00:42 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/today_s_howtos.3.gmi

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00:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"

00:42 DaemonFC; But even JavaShit extensions are better than mirc script.

00:43 loner; cannot link statically yet, because this needs some different network administration, to socksify irc traffic

00:43 DaemonFC; Because mirc scripts like to call out to compiled code, and then you have no idea what the hell they're telling you to run.

00:43 loner; proxychains requires LD_PRELOAD... meh... no

00:43 loner; i'll try redsocks proxy tomorrow

00:44 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Videos_and_Shows_Privacy_Massive_Wiki_Manjaro_and_Linux_Mint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Videos_and_Shows_Privacy_Massive_Wiki_Manjaro_and_Linux_Mint.gmi

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00:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint

00:44 DaemonFC; JavaScript can be "minified", which by effect obfuscates it.

00:44 DaemonFC; So an open source JavaScript should have the original source and instructions on how to minify it so the user can verify how it turns into the same thing as the minified script.

00:44 loner; why would you want to re-implement shit as opensource?

00:45 TR News; Qwiic Digital Desk Sign with MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5125 Source: SparkFun Electronics | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sparkfun.com/news/5125

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00:45 TR Bot; Digital Desk Sign with MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics

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00:46 TR News; Out-of-control HEY HI hype https://www.epistem.ink/p/it-looks-like-youre-trying-to-take

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00:46 TR Bot; It Looks Like Youre Trying To Take Over The Narrative

00:46 loner; i haven't got a libc anymore

00:47 TR News; Hello Shiny Python | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/hello-shiny-python/ Source: R | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/hello-shiny-python/

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00:47 TR Bot; Shiny Python | R-bloggers

00:47 loner; and, why is it called libc if all of them contain malicious ASM shit?

00:47 MinceR; because it's a standard library to be used by programs written in C?

00:48 loner; yes, and those "standard" libraries contain non-standard ASM shit

00:48 loner; libasm (c) pentagon corp

00:48 TR News; "Zatko was fired from Twitter in January this year for ineffective leadership and poor performance, in the words of a Twitter spokesperson. CNNs report is very long, and worth reading in full. If even partially true, what Zatko is alleging is extremely alarming." https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/08/24/twitter-mudge

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00:48 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: Ex-Twitter Security Chief Peiter 'Mudge' Zatko Files Blockbuster Whistleblower Report Over the Platform's Security

00:49 loner; anyway, there's not much i can do anymore

00:50 TR News; "Nakamoto Scheme" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/08/investment-frauds.html

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00:50 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Investment Frauds

00:51 TR News; "The phone numbers and email addresses of anonymous dissidents are very sensitive, but Id argue that the contents of DMs are the most sensitive information Twitter holds." https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/08/24/wapo-zatko-twitter

↺ https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/08/24/wapo-zatko-twitter

00:51 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: The Washington Post on Peiter 'Mudge' Zatko's Whistleblower Report on Twitter Security

00:53 DaemonFC; It's clearly time we go back to libc.so.5

00:53 loner; i fear i couldn't repair dietlibc.a at least

00:53 DaemonFC; Everything since 1997 was a mistake.

00:54 loner; almost

00:54 loner; this is the comparison i propose: just burn all books and libraries, we got wikipedia nowadays, written in php5

00:55 TR News; Maker Creates DIY Raspberry Pi Pico GPIO Ethernet Connection | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-ethernet-hack

00:55 DaemonFC; Then we can recycle all of the cars and cans and beer bottles.

00:55 TR Bot; Maker Creates DIY Raspberry Pi Pico GPIO Ethernet Connection | Tom's Hardware

00:55 DaemonFC; And become Amish

00:55 TR News; (UPDATED): DeskPi Super6C mini-ITX board takes up to 6x Raspberry Pi CM4 modules (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/DeskPi_Super6C_mini_ITX_board_takes_up_to_6x_Raspberry_Pi_CM4_m.gmi

00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines DeskPi Super6C mini-ITX board takes up to 6x Raspberry Pi CM4 modules (UPDATED)

00:55 *ender2070 (~blozza@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights

00:55 schestowitz[TR]; oh

00:55 loner; DaemonFC: Amish? why? don't conflate their religion. that's distracting.

00:55 schestowitz[TR]; ender

00:56 TR News; Raspberry Pi Project Enables I2C Interface Using HDMI Port | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-hdmi-to-i2c

00:56 ender2070; hey!

00:56 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Project Enables I2C Interface Using HDMI Port | Tom's Hardware

00:56 schestowitz[TR]; welcome back 2010

00:56 loner; because, the Amish haven't got an Apollo Guidance Computer

00:56 ender2070; im the same as starstreak

00:56 loner; nowadays, we haven't got at least this anymore

00:56 schestowitz[TR]; fedora has ambassadors again

00:56 TR News; How To Hide Passwords in Your Code With Raspberry Pi Pico W | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/how-to/hide-passwords-in-code-raspberry-pi-pico-w

00:56 TR Bot; How To Hide Passwords in Your Code With Raspberry Pi Pico W | Tom's Hardware

00:57 ender2070; right now im connected to irc using windows 3.11 and mIRC

00:57 TR News; Raspberry Pi Cat Doorbell Listens for Meows | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-cat-doorbell

00:57 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Cat Doorbell Listens for Meows | Tom's Hardware

00:57 schestowitz[TR]; ender2070: cannot open https links

00:58 starstreak; this is the nice thing about irc: https://i.imgur.com/1PvLUGG.png

↺ https://i.imgur.com/1PvLUGG.png

00:58 starstreak; it still works in windows 3.11

00:58 TR News; Gossip about the mother instead of news. What has AP become? https://federalnewsnetwork.com/u-s-news/2022/08/attorney-florida-school-shooter-was-a-damaged-person/

↺ https://federalnewsnetwork.com/u-s-news/2022/08/attorney-florida-school-shooter-was-a-damaged-person/

00:58 TR Bot; Florida school shooters birth mom abused cocaine, alcohol | Federal News Network

00:59 *ender2070 is starstreak

00:59 *ender2070 is 16-bit

00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.80

00:59 ender2070; if techrights required ssl, this wouldn't work


1 AM, August 25

01:00 ender2070; there are problems with not using ssl though, my isp and the feds can read this

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; they can:

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; read morning logs

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; they can read real-time logs

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; viaa gemini

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; or my machine at home

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; or my copy on the site

01:01 schestowitz[TR]; or the site's own copy

01:02 schestowitz[TR]; but for this channel only

01:02 schestowitz[TR]; this channel is not private

01:02 schestowitz[TR]; you can private-message people

01:02 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, SparkFun, Librem, and Arduino https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_SparkFun_Librem_and_Arduino.gmi

01:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, SparkFun, Librem, and Arduino

01:02 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/crime/armed-man-with-gas-can-taped-to-chest-fatally-shot-by-officer-in-waukegan-police-say/

↺ https://wgntv.com/crime/armed-man-with-gas-can-taped-to-chest-fatally-shot-by-officer-in-waukegan-police-say/

01:02 TR Bot; Armed man with gas can taped to chest fatally shot by officer in Waukegan, police say | WGN-TV

01:03 DaemonFC; WAUKEGAN, Ill. An armed man was shot and killed Wednesday after ignoring a Waukegan officers verbal commands, according to police.

01:03 DaemonFC; "Waukegan, State of ILL. A man was shot after failing to obey and survive."

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; "OBEY, OBEY"

01:03 schestowitz[TR]; 2 seconds llater, shots fired

01:04 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], techrights sort of works in IE5 for Win3.11: https://i.imgur.com/Adfom1K.png

↺ https://i.imgur.com/Adfom1K.png

01:04 schestowitz[TR]; "armed"= there was some postil in a holster somewhere

01:04 schestowitz[TR]; "so that's OK then"

01:04 DaemonFC; It was a knife.

01:04 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], i tried clicking on a link but it was too large to load

01:04 DaemonFC; "Authorities note that as the officer attempted to put out the blaze with a fire extinguisher, a man armed with a knife, hammer and gas can taped to his chest advanced toward the officer.

01:04 DaemonFC; Police ordered the male subject to stop advancing. When the male offender didnt comply, the officer opened fire, wounding the victim. "

01:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: he could throw it!

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; did they shoot the legs?

01:05 DaemonFC; Nope. Center mass.

01:05 DaemonFC; :)

01:05 schestowitz[TR]; cops

01:05 DaemonFC; You think they're going to kneecap someone, Roy?

01:05 DaemonFC; You aim for center mass. It's not the most effective place to shoot someone but it's the most likely place to hit.

01:06 DaemonFC; Then if you need to, you can shoot them more.

01:06 schestowitz[TR]; ender2070: not I remember that globe thing

01:06 DaemonFC; Like shooting them in the back after they're on the ground and barely even alive.

01:06 DaemonFC; Totally justified!

01:06 DaemonFC; Now the cop can say whatever lie he wants.

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; "failing to obey and survive.""

01:07 DaemonFC; No chance that the victim pulls through and contradicts his story.

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; Interesting wording

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; like "offcer-involved shooting'

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; we shot a man with a hammer in the lungs and heart

01:07 schestowitz[TR]; he was hammered

01:07 ender2070; lol

01:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], In Grand Theft Auto V, the police in California have "Obey and Survive" on the door of all the cop cars.

01:07 DaemonFC; So I just started saying it when I saw that.

01:08 ender2070; im a genius, i configured an ne2000 network card in dosbox-x and added it to windows 3.11, then installed microsoft tcp/ip and an old version of 16-bit mIRC

01:08 DaemonFC; What the politicians really hate about video games is it teaches kids to hate police officers.

01:08 schestowitz[TR]; your country loves guns more than it valued life

01:08 DaemonFC; It portrays the cops as violent, unintelligent savages.

01:08 schestowitz[TR]; *values

01:08 DaemonFC; Even better, corrupt, on the take, etc.

01:08 DaemonFC; Duke Nukem even had "pig cops".

01:09 DaemonFC; And they'd run around with "LARD" on their uniforms.

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; pigs are quite harmless

01:09 schestowitz[TR]; LAPD=LARD

01:09 DaemonFC; Yeah

01:10 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU

01:10 TR Bot; https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU

↺ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=qY9-2xJE5eU

01:10 TR Bot; yt.artemislena.eu | Down Periscope Stocking the Pantry - Invidious

01:10 schestowitz[TR]; "ghetto people"

01:11 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png

↺ https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png

01:11 ender2070; this is so retro

01:11 schestowitz[TR]; when was 3.11 released?

01:11 *ender2070 slaps starstreak around a bit with a large trout

01:11 ender2070; 1993

01:12 ender2070; so a 30 year old OS is working fine on irc

01:13 *ender2070 is now known as ender2070_16bit

01:13 starstreak; -ender2070_16bit- VERSION mIRC16 v5.31 K.Mardam-Bey

01:13 ender2070_16bit; XD

01:14 loner; ender2070_16bit: DOSBox isn't 30years old

01:14 schestowitz[TR]; I will use the screenshots shortly :-0

01:14 schestowitz[TR]; thanks

01:14 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y52-nr-P1EU

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Y52-nr-P1EU

01:14 TR Bot; JONATHAN BANKS | Mike Ehrmantraut & Tuco Salamanca | Better Call Saul - Invidious

01:14 schestowitz[TR]; celebrating backward compat

01:14 ender2070_16bit; oh cool!

01:15 ender2070_16bit; loner: I know dosbox isn't 30 years old but I did boot DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11 in it

01:15 loner; and neither were "free software" nor "open source"

01:15 ender2070_16bit; I needed a config.sys so I had to boot the OS instead of use the emulated dos

01:18 ender2070_16bit; I suppose I could have used FreeDOS

01:18 ender2070_16bit; I was doing this for nostalgia sake though

01:18 loner; there's even some open-source (with Verilog) ia32 SoC available (without ethernet i think)

01:19 loner; it's impressive still, except, except for the minor missing pieces of this

01:19 ender2070_16bit; I would love to setup all this on bare metal some day, maybe i can find a vintage computer

01:19 ender2070_16bit; the mister fpga might be a good choice

01:19 ender2070_16bit; i think it has a 486 module

01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

01:20 loner; https://github.com/archlabo/Frix

↺ https://github.com/archlabo/Frix

01:20 TR Bot; - archlabo/Frix: IBM PC Compatible SoC for a commercially available FPGA board

01:20 *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights

01:20 loner; https://github.com/alfikpl/ao486

↺ https://github.com/alfikpl/ao486

01:20 TR Bot; - alfikpl/ao486: The ao486 is an x86 compatible Verilog core implementing all features of a 486 SX.

01:20 loner; however, i think those are missing ethernet/usb1

01:20 loner; and, the Altera tooling isn't "free" nor "opensource" either

01:21 TR News; (NEW): Privacy and Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.gmi

01:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Privacy and Security Leftovers

01:21 loner; just as said, i backtracked this, and arrived at ttl7400 series era computing, if at all

01:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Just do what they say.

01:22 DaemonFC; They're not fucking around.

01:22 loner; because then, with this type of computing, there is little to no chance for ethernet and tcp/ip

01:22 DaemonFC; If you give a cop any excuse to kill you, they can and they very well might.

01:23 DaemonFC; You're really playing with fire because there's pretty much no accountability.

01:23 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi

01:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers

01:24 TR News; http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/compiz-0-9-14-2/

http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/compiz-0-9-14-2/

01:24 TR Bot; Links 24/08/2022: Mishi Choudhary Leaves Software Freedom Law Center and Release of Compiz 0.9.14.2 | Techrights

01:24 ender2070_16bit; loner: im not doing this to avoid the GNU/FSF/UN/Pentagon/IBM/Wintel conspiracy

01:25 loner; there's many reasons to do it

01:26 ender2070_16bit; lol Hexchat uses 50.1MB of ram, DOSBOX-X uses 118.9MB ram

01:27 ender2070_16bit; loner: pretty much all CPUs have backdoors in them, even arm (trustzone)

01:29 techuser; yes, because people let corporations do computers

01:29 techuser; inventing a computer was either a mistake, or an evildoing

01:29 ender2070_16bit; I do have some hope with risc-v and openrisc

01:29 techuser; I have none

01:30 ender2070_16bit; you could always buy a computer older than a core2duo

01:30 techuser; can these processors be done/altered at home?

01:30 techuser; without really expensive equipment

01:32 ender2070_16bit; fair enough

01:32 loner; i doubt there will be at least a libc without evil ASM extensions available, only GNU binutils could digest

01:33 TR News; Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/

http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/

01:33 TR Bot; Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights

01:33 ender2070_16bit; hrm, mIRC doesn't seem to use the sound card, its using the pc speaker

01:34 schestowitz[TR]; try:

01:34 schestowitz[TR]; gemini.techrights.org

01:34 schestowitz[TR]; ssl optional

01:34 schestowitz[TR]; see if the context is legible

01:34 schestowitz[TR]; *content

01:35 techuser; does Gemini works without TLS at all?

01:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's serving over port 80 too

01:35 schestowitz[TR]; and 443

01:35 ender2070_16bit; i don't think gemini uses 80/443

01:35 schestowitz[TR]; it does web

01:35 schestowitz[TR]; that's my home ip address

01:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's in my living room

01:36 schestowitz[TR]; see how msie copes

01:36 ender2070_16bit; your gemini server does http too?

01:36 schestowitz[TR]; yes

01:36 schestowitz[TR]; we wrotew aproxy

01:36 schestowitz[TR]; in perl

01:36 schestowitz[TR]; it does ipfs also

01:37 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D333.jpg

↺ gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D333.jpg

01:37 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D683.jpg

↺ gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D683.jpg

01:38 DaemonFC; Never underestimate will to live.

01:38 TR News; On Keeping Gimmicks Out of the Classroom gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi

↺ gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi

01:38 DaemonFC; Like that time Gonad the Barbarian had me in the chokehold, bleeding profusely, concussed.

01:38 TR News; "The point is made that any new approach to teaching will produce measurable improvements, but only because of the enthusiasm of the practitioner. Infectious enthusiasm is most likely the key, and not all teachers have that, so maybe the gadgets help these classes. But I'm not convinced." gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi

↺ gemini://rochelimit.uk/articles/20220824_on_keeping_gimmicks_out_of_the_classroom.gmi

01:38 DaemonFC; And right before it all went dark, I managed to grab a large rock and break his hand in two places so I could get away from him.

01:39 DaemonFC; He was a soldier. I was a teenager. I still quickly figured it out at the last minute what I had to do to live.

01:40 *ender2070_16bit slaps DaemonFC around a bit with a large trout

01:40 DaemonFC; My mother had my go lie to the prosecutor and play it down.

01:40 schestowitz[TR]; you could kick him in the gnats :-)

01:40 DaemonFC; Two weeks later I was homeless anyway, and they made him pay a small fine and go to anger management.

01:40 ender2070_16bit; i used the mirc slap command lol

01:41 ender2070_16bit; this is so retro its glorious

01:41 ender2070_16bit; a/s/l?

01:41 DaemonFC; 15 F Police Trap

01:41 DaemonFC; Errr, I mean, Taco Bell.....Come meet me. Bring a lot of incriminating shit with you.

01:41 DaemonFC; I mean LOL!

01:42 DaemonFC; Why don't you have a seat?

01:42 DaemonFC; :)

01:42 schestowitz[TR]; s/s/l?

01:42 schestowitz[TR]; "NO!"

01:42 DaemonFC; Only the United States could make a reality show about a bunch of old perverts showing up to try to fuck kids and laugh at them running from the police.

01:43 starstreak; https://www.retrorgb.com/mister.html

↺ https://www.retrorgb.com/mister.html

01:43 TR Bot; FPGA Hardware | RetroRGB

01:43 ender2070_16bit; a/s/l means age/sex/location

01:43 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GhkypiYyqTU

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GhkypiYyqTU

01:43 TR Bot; To Catch A Predator Host Chris Hansen Arrested - Invidious

01:43 ender2070_16bit; its something i used to ask a lot on IRC back before 2000

01:44 ender2070_16bit; i would hang out in #teenzone on DALnet when i was growing up

01:44 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zJIlftta6fk

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zJIlftta6fk

01:44 TR Bot; Man brings pizza to teens house, meets Chris Hansen instead - Invidious

01:44 schestowitz[TR]; dalnet is still online

01:44 ender2070_16bit; yes it is

01:44 ender2070_16bit; im too old for #teenzone now though

01:45 techuser; I wonder why age matters

01:45 techuser; why do they create these weird channels

01:45 ender2070_16bit; lol

01:45 ender2070_16bit; a place for teens to ask each other asl and hook up

01:45 techuser; make kids grow up asap and start working all day until they die

01:46 ender2070_16bit; i used to have online girlfriends way before I had real ones

01:46 DaemonFC; https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/werewolfsboxingforum53765/jeff-sokol-died-last-summer-t3468.html

↺ https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/werewolfsboxingforum53765/jeff-sokol-died-last-summer-t3468.html

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's not what irc does

01:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's what schools do

01:46 TR Bot; Jeff Sokol died last summer - Hotel Dixie Boxing Forum

01:46 DaemonFC; https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/16835/predator-rabbit-sokols-divorce-bankruptcy

↺ https://templeoftcap.freeforums.net/thread/16835/predator-rabbit-sokols-divorce-bankruptcy

01:46 TR Bot; predator rabbit hole: Jeff Sokol's divorce and bankruptcy | Temple of TCAP

01:46 DaemonFC; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214277280/jeffrey-sokol

↺ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214277280/jeffrey-sokol

01:46 TR Bot; Jeffrey Jeff Sokol (1971-2020) - Find a Grave Memorial

01:46 ender2070_16bit; i remember back in the 90s, i scanned my student ID photo to hand out to online girls

01:46 ender2070_16bit; before digital cameras

01:47 techuser; I know some online girls

01:47 DaemonFC; Chris Hansen's show has caused at least three of the men they ensnared to commit suicide.

01:47 ender2070_16bit; and even now in 2022, i prefer online people to real people

01:47 ender2070_16bit; because i have social anxiety

01:47 techuser; idk why should I meet them

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; my fist "online gf" from from thunderbay

01:47 ender2070_16bit; im asexual now so i actually would prefer to meet a woman and date her online only

01:47 schestowitz[TR]; *first

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; but I met some whom I met "irl"

01:48 techuser; horseface thinks cuddlybear66 is my online girlfriend

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; before "irl" and "afk" was a thing

01:48 ender2070_16bit; schestowitz[tr] was that thunderbay, ontario?

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; yes

01:48 ender2070_16bit; nice

01:48 techuser; but I treat her as just an "IRC friend", like others

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; she even conatcted me right before I got married

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; which was strange

01:48 ender2070_16bit; i still have my six digit ICQ number

01:48 ender2070_16bit; (yes ICQ is still around)

01:48 schestowitz[TR]; icq = putin :-)

01:49 techuser; Helenah is another IRC female I know, once again no special attraction to her

01:49 ender2070_16bit; i think a russian company owns icq now

01:49 techuser; there are others maybe

01:49 ender2070_16bit; add me on ICQ, my UIN is 438570

01:49 techuser; I hate genders and sexes

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; irc was ahead of its time in some ways

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; like experimental real-time typing

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; over modem

01:49 schestowitz[TR]; ytalk still does this

01:49 ender2070_16bit; there is a plugin for pidgin that works with the new icq protocol

01:50 techuser; ender2070_16bit: iirc old ICQ protocol supports custom servers

01:50 techuser; but I did fail to find good clients for it

01:50 Helenah; techuser: I don't need special attraction towards me. lol

01:50 DaemonFC; Lesson 1: Don't believe anything a person on the other end of a computer tells you.

01:50 schestowitz[TR]; irc = software youi use to find out people's ip addresses and then winnuke them

01:50 techuser; ender2070_16bit: are you from somewhere the former USSR?

01:50 Helenah; I don't need to be the centre of attention.

01:50 schestowitz[TR]; also see: icq

01:50 ender2070_16bit; nah

01:50 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> irc = software youi use to find out people's ip addresses and then winnuke them

01:50 ender2070_16bit; techuser - im from ontario, canada

01:50 Helenah; I have ADHD but that doesn't mean I'm a brat.

01:51 ender2070_16bit; ICQ was popular here back in the 90s and early 00s

01:51 DaemonFC; There were a lot of Yahoo Messenger nukes that I used to use on people.

01:51 ender2070_16bit; before msn messenger came out

01:51 ender2070_16bit; then it was msn

01:51 DaemonFC; AIM had them too. The software wasn't very well written.

01:51 DaemonFC; It had a lot of DDoS attack vulnerabilities.

01:51 ender2070_16bit; i miss the days of pidgin with msn/aim/icq

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; you ended up running "antuinuke"

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; any of the bunch

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; a whole process

01:51 schestowitz[TR]; just to block packets

01:52 schestowitz[TR]; instead of having the bug patches

01:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, there was YTunnel to protect against Yahoo booters targeting you.

01:52 schestowitz[TR]; *patvcched

01:52 ender2070_16bit; pidgin uses about 50MB ram and discord uses about 400MB

01:52 techuser; I'm not asexual, but the way sex is done makes me unwilling to do it with people

01:52 DaemonFC; I cracked it and turned it into YTunnelPro.

01:52 techuser; I mean, males harassing female to get sex

01:52 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/news/ytunnelpro-25-build-498-beta/

↺ https://www.neowin.net/news/ytunnelpro-25-build-498-beta/

01:52 TR Bot; Y!TunnelPro 2.5 Build 498 Beta - Neowin

01:53 techuser; then marriage happening and the relationships sometimes getting toxic

01:53 DaemonFC; There were a lot of minors on the Indiana_M4M room.

01:53 techuser; then suicides or other issues because failures at love

01:53 DaemonFC; Worse than Grindr. Much worse. It was totally unregulated, and the police back then didn't really have any sort of organized online presence.

01:53 DaemonFC; How do I know there were a lot of minors? I was 15 years old.

01:54 DaemonFC; I was meeting adults online and having sex with them at 15. Like, when my parents weren't there.

01:54 DaemonFC; They never really were. Off at work, or mom cheating on dad, or dad off with Jan.

01:54 starstreak; https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems <--- a great place for retro stuff

↺ https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems

01:54 TR Bot; WinWorld: Library

01:54 starstreak; they even got old versions of windows

01:54 techuser; I never had sex and probably not going to have it

01:55 ender2070_16bit; virgin alert

01:55 ender2070_16bit; how old are you techuser?

01:55 DaemonFC; There was a 38 year old man in South Bend, Indiana that was sending me nudes when I was 15.

01:55 techuser; 18

01:55 DaemonFC; Just emailing them to me.

01:55 ender2070_16bit; nvm

01:55 DaemonFC; He said his name was Joe Schaffer.

01:55 schestowitz[TR]; i actually did sleep with my first "online g/f"

01:55 DaemonFC; I mean, people didn't even hide it back then because there was really nobody looking for it.

01:55 ender2070_16bit; i was a virgin till i was 19

01:55 schestowitz[TR]; but only when we were about 20

01:56 ender2070_16bit; schestowits[tr] the one from thunderbay?

01:56 techuser; btw cuddlybear66 thinks sex is only acceptable when it is to get pregrant and give birth to a child

01:56 ender2070_16bit; schestowitz[tr] the one from thunderbay?

01:56 schestowitz[TR]; yes, she was already in winniipeg by then

01:56 ender2070_16bit; ahhh

01:56 ender2070_16bit; nice :)

01:56 DaemonFC; After there was an organized police crackdown, it scared away all the ones that were smart enough to realize that it could be a trap and something really awful would happen to them. Right?

01:56 DaemonFC; In the late 90s, there were few sex offender lists.

01:57 ender2070_16bit; I was in love with this girl from alberta

01:57 ender2070_16bit; but we never met

01:57 DaemonFC; No online sex crime police units.

01:57 ender2070_16bit; she was in love with my friend

01:57 DaemonFC; The laws weren't that tough. The absolute worst that might happen is they bust you on something and send you to jail for a year or two.

01:57 DaemonFC; So more people were open about it.

01:58 DaemonFC; If I had to put my finger on when that changed, I'd say around 2005 or so.

01:58 techuser; love is too expensive

01:58 techuser; I partially have social anxiety, partially unwillingness to interact with people in some ways

01:58 DaemonFC; By then the politicians had caught up with it and passed tough laws and made it something that would ruin your life if you got caught, and gave cops unlimited funding.

01:58 DaemonFC; So now the only people they catch are the stupid ones.

01:59 DaemonFC; Because those are the people nothing will scare off.

01:59 ender2070_16bit; i got full blown social anxiety, i have panic attacks around too many people

01:59 schestowitz[TR]; or the "fallman"?

01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.85

01:59 schestowitz[TR]; rich allen jones?

01:59 techuser; like I don't support "love" because it makes one waste money and go into toxic relationships


2 AM, August 25

02:00 ender2070_16bit; fair enough

02:00 ender2070_16bit; you're too young to be so cynical though

02:00 techuser; I think the issue is that my life was about computers from early childhood, then I realized things were always wrong with computers, and now idk what I want to do at all

02:01 techuser; I can't be happy with computers, but at the same time I did replace "real life" with computers in before

02:01 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> rich allen jones?

02:01 DaemonFC; I think he was stupid.

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; computers don't last long

02:01 ender2070_16bit; i've replaced real life with computers and its amazing

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; compared to humans

02:01 DaemonFC; It's a pretty safe assumption that anyone who knows how the system works and gets caught is stupid.

02:01 schestowitz[TR]; even some OLD cars can last 50 years

02:01 techuser; so I have no hope

02:01 techuser; no life and bad computers

02:03 techuser; I tried to get into free software. It seems I met agents. Liars who told me that GNU/Linux is really good and it will save me. It isn't.

02:03 techuser; it is ruined by systemd and other shit

02:03 techuser; anything big has corporation parasites

02:04 ender2070_16bit; is this allowed?

02:04 techuser; colors

02:04 techuser; yes

02:04 ender2070_16bit; i still remembered how to do it in mIRC

02:05 techuser; however I'm now going to sleep

02:05 techuser; see you... if ever?

02:05 techuser; people disappear and never appear again

02:05 ender2070_16bit; ill be around

02:05 ender2070_16bit; im starstreak/britney

02:05 techuser; ok

02:05 ender2070_16bit; see ya :)

02:06 techuser; I don't notice/remember behavior patterns often, so a nickname change can make me think a person did disappear

02:06 ender2070_16bit; i lost "britney" because i was an idiot with nickserv

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; this discussion made me reecall a lot of things

02:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, I feel like every generation says this.

02:06 DaemonFC; But we grew up a lot faster I think.

02:06 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: in my experience, you won't find compatible girls online

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; it's like depicting characters in a book without illustrations

02:07 techuser; (still here) oh, I'm not looking for them

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; then you meet in person and it's all different

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; defies expectations

02:07 techuser; I just happened to know cuddlybear66 is a girl

02:07 techuser; I don't ask

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; girls I met through irc and icq were not compatible

02:07 ender2070_16bit; schestowitz[tr]: it was better back in the 90s and early 00s for women because computers were more rare so you found women online with the same interests

02:07 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> even some OLD cars can last 50 years

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; it was all platonic, also due to our age

02:07 schestowitz[TR]; like 15-17

02:07 ender2070_16bit; now im on dating apps and i have nothing in common with these women

02:07 DaemonFC; They figured out the Buick emissions problem. That's solved.

02:07 techuser; I don't expect to meet anyone irl

02:08 schestowitz[TR]; girld I knew from work were more compatible

02:08 schestowitz[TR]; the "first girldfriend" thing, she contacted me before my wedding

02:08 schestowitz[TR]; so clearly she was still stalking me 15 years later

02:08 techuser; if I want sex I can masturbate, though need to get rid of this habit if possible at some point

02:08 schestowitz[TR]; after the wedding another girlfriend of mine (we met as she was a neighbour) wrote to me

02:08 schestowitz[TR]; she was back in chian by then

02:09 DaemonFC; These people on that Predator show made a lot of obvious mistakes.

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; girls stalk guys online

02:09 ender2070_16bit; guys stalk girls too

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; but there's this stigma or "pervy" guys stalking girls

02:09 DaemonFC; Chief among them was planning to trespass in another person's house.

02:09 schestowitz[TR]; *of

02:09 DaemonFC; That's actually worse than the sex offense, as far as consequences go.

02:10 DaemonFC; Even if it was real, if dad shows up and shoots you, nobody is going to convict dad.

02:10 Helenah; hmm

02:10 Helenah; :3

02:10 *Helenah gives DaemonFC a hamper of chocolates

02:10 schestowitz[TR]; people you "meet" online = almost always disappointment

02:10 *Helenah gives schestowitz[TR] a hamper of chocolates

02:10 schestowitz[TR]; for dating anyway

02:10 *Helenah gives ender2070_16bit a hamper of chocolates

02:10 Helenah; Hi hi

02:10 schestowitz[TR]; maybe not for collaboration etc.

02:10 techuser; so probably going to sleep now

02:10 *Helenah gives techuser a hamper of chocolates

02:10 DaemonFC; There was this case in Texas a few months ago where a woman caught a man having sex with her teenage daughter.

02:11 DaemonFC; So she ran over him with their car.

02:11 DaemonFC; Nobody even filed charges against her for doing that.

02:11 ender2070_16bit; hey Helenah!

02:11 Helenah; Hi :D

02:11 schestowitz[TR]; 0/

02:11 DaemonFC; It's Texas. They know the jury won't cooperate.

02:11 ender2070_16bit; im starstreak in windows 3.11/16-bit mirc

02:11 Helenah; I want a bit off the rails on another IRC network.... :/

02:11 TR News; Stop uploading photos to ZuckerCreep for merely some useless effects you can apply offline anyway https://www.maketecheasier.com/search-camera-filters-effects-instagram/

↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/search-camera-filters-effects-instagram/

02:11 TR Bot; How to Search for and Use Camera Filters and Effects on Instagram - Make Tech Easier

02:12 starstreak; Helenah, https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png

↺ https://i.imgur.com/dIl43xx.png

02:12 *Helenah clickifies

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; ender2070_16bit: I assume you cannot be winnuked there

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; as it's a VM

02:12 schestowitz[TR]; or simialr

02:12 Helenah; Ooooooh nostalgia!

02:13 Helenah; Too bad it's Windows

02:13 ender2070_16bit; i dont know actually

02:13 Helenah; :(

02:13 ender2070_16bit; windows 3.11 is probably vulnerable to stuff

02:13 Helenah; Me want no windows, no gates.

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise I'd send you a packet

02:13 ender2070_16bit; lol

02:13 Helenah; Just doors and penguins to walk through them.

02:13 ender2070_16bit; it IS a vm running DOS 6.22 and Win3.11

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; The Doors

02:13 Helenah; Ah

02:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8lVqEchxIxw

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8lVqEchxIxw

02:14 TR Bot; The Doors - Touch Me - Invidious

02:14 Helenah; I just wanna............. GNU/Linux

02:14 Helenah; :D

02:14 starstreak; Helenah, https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems <--- a great place for retro stuff

↺ https://winworldpc.com/library/operating-systems

02:14 TR Bot; WinWorld: Library

02:14 ender2070_16bit; you can find retro versions of linux there

02:15 Helenah; Okay I'll install it inside a VM ender2070_16bit but only because it's soo old and won't spy on me and steal my files and all that stuff, you know?

02:15 ender2070_16bit; lol

02:15 ender2070_16bit; i use arch btw, it doesnt do those things either

02:15 Helenah; Me too

02:15 Helenah; and devuan

02:16 ender2070_16bit; i know lol

02:16 *ender2070_16bit is starstreak

02:16 Helenah; Yeah I'm too stoned to keep tabs on everyone around here...

02:16 ender2070_16bit; i dont mind systemd so i use centos stream 9 for servers

02:16 ender2070_16bit; i love firewalld

02:17 Helenah; iptables here

02:17 TR News; A fuzzy issue of responsible disclosure [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/904293/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/904293/

↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/904293/

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/904293/

02:17 TR Bot; fuzzy issue of responsible disclosure [LWN.net]

02:17 ender2070_16bit; firewalld is a noob frontend for iptables

02:17 Helenah; Ah

02:17 Helenah; sysvinit and openrc here.

02:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HqKXXiNl3TQ

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HqKXXiNl3TQ

02:17 TR Bot; The Best Of The Doors - Invidious

02:17 Helenah; and systemd

02:18 Helenah; I'm moving my arch systems to artix.

02:18 Helenah; I'll be down to sysvinit and openrc then.

02:18 ender2070_16bit; i can get a VM for $1/month with 512mb ram so systemd isnt such a big deal anymore

02:18 Helenah; Don't run systemd on that!

02:18 Helenah; lol

02:19 TR News; Tornado Cash and collateral damage [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/904960/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/904960/

↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/904960/

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/904960/

02:19 TR Bot; Cash and collateral damage [LWN.net]

02:19 ender2070_16bit; why not

02:19 schestowitz[TR]; artix is good

02:19 ender2070_16bit; last time i had a vm, a centos system with systemd used around 130mb ram

02:19 Helenah; systemd eats resources like candy and you only got 512 MB RAM

02:19 ender2070_16bit; with cjdns and znc

02:19 Helenah; systemd isn't an init system, it's a suite of system utilities, one being the init system.

02:20 ender2070_16bit; i know

02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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02:20 Helenah; Up to you but don't be surprised.

02:20 ender2070_16bit; it really doesnt use *that* much ram

02:20 ender2070_16bit; im not trying to squeeze everything into a 128mb ram vm

02:20 TR News; (UPDATED): Linux 6 RC1 (Many Updates, UPDATEDx9) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/15/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/15/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc1.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/15/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc1.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/15/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc1.gmi

02:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux 6 RC1 (Many Updates, UPDATEDx9)

02:20 Helenah; I don't know I had to remove it from my IRC servers because it filled up a chunk of the 128 MB RAM

02:21 Helenah; Now the servers only use around 64 MB RAM each.

02:21 ender2070_16bit; yeah thats good

02:21 schestowitz[TR]; are they hosted at home?

02:22 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: On my hypervisor.

02:22 ender2070_16bit; is your hypervisor at home?

02:22 Helenah; No, dc.

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; my rasdpi server uses 750MB of RAM atm

02:22 Helenah; Ah

02:22 schestowitz[TR]; file server+webserver(nginx)+gemini+ipfs..

02:23 loner; my distro, with ssh active and nfs mounted requires 32MiB RAM

02:23 schestowitz[TR]; but this time I booted it into a desktop env too

02:23 Helenah; I even have a web server using only around 20 MB RAM of 32 MB RAM

02:23 ender2070_16bit; i had ssh+cjdns+znc+systemd running around 130MB

02:24 Helenah; That's good going!

02:24 schestowitz[TR]; ipfs can take up 400mb, but that varies

02:24 Helenah; I am a low footprint person.

02:24 ender2070_16bit; i wonder if i should put my collection of conspiracy books on ipfs

02:25 XRevan86; britney: i still have my six digit ICQ number (yes ICQ is still around)" <- Did ye confirm your phone number there?

02:25 Helenah; Try sleeping outside and you will appreciate life more and understand what it means to be low footprint.

02:26 ender2070_16bit; XRevan86: I wasn't asked for a phone number

02:26 TR News; ZDNet is NOT dead. 3 "Linux" articles in past 9 days. Used to be 3 per day ;-)(

02:26 XRevan86; "firewalld is a noob frontend for iptables" <- For nftables.

02:27 schestowitz[TR]; I think in icq I'm a 5-digit number

02:27 ender2070_16bit; nice!

02:27 schestowitz[TR]; I cannot even recall my username

02:27 ender2070_16bit; you can login with the number

02:27 XRevan86; britney: They require it these days.

02:27 *schestowitz[TR] checks notes

02:27 XRevan86; Unless they dropped the requirement for whatever reason.

02:27 ender2070_16bit; XRevan86: I use pidgin with the new icq protocol plugin, nothing asked me for a phone number

02:28 ender2070_16bit; i even used the ios app and same thing

02:28 ender2070_16bit; the problem is, nobody uses icq anymore so theres no point lol

02:28 schestowitz[TR]; "-See what happens with old 166 MMX computer which is unused. Consider taking it as only problem is modem contacts. If taken, fetch keyboard, (mouse) and wires as well. Extra PB monitor is already in possession. see if old files, ICQ and E-mail can be dug up."

02:28 schestowitz[TR]; 2003 notes

02:28 schestowitz[TR]; I wanted to excavate m,y old computer 19 years ago

02:28 schestowitz[TR]; maybe with irc stuff on it

02:29 *techrights_guest|75 (~ac3a9349@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights

02:29 ender2070_16bit; its a shame i deleted my old files

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder if https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabilis_(company) kept full logs

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirabilis_(company)

02:29 TR Bot; Mirabilis (company) - Wikipedia

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; and, if so, what happened to them

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; they can use them as dirt on people who are not much older

02:29 schestowitz[TR]; imagine they selling them to you

02:30 schestowitz[TR]; very old chats

02:30 ender2070_16bit; all they got is teenage me talking to girls online lol

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; you never know

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; how thee things can be weaponised

02:31 XRevan86; britney: I mean, there's always FSB to talk to :)

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; when social control is taken up a notch

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; to classify people

02:31 ender2070_16bit; lol XRevan86

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; to be clear, I didn't do anything illegal in irc

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; but I'm sure many did

02:31 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't need to use illegal things

02:32 XRevan86; Do I count?

02:32 schestowitz[TR]; they can use "embrassing"

02:33 schestowitz[TR]; same for browsing history, email..

02:33 XRevan86; britney: This reminds me that there was a case where as evidence the prosecution provided ICQ private messages obtained by unknown means.

02:33 schestowitz[TR]; everyone onm the planet once upon a time landed on some nazi site, even by sheer sderendipity

02:33 schestowitz[TR]; in EPO we saw how such stuff gets weaponised even to discredit judges

02:34 ender2070_16bit; I once had a conversation with Andrian Lamo over AIM

02:34 ender2070_16bit; we used the encryption plugin in pidgin

02:34 schestowitz[TR]; he spoke to me in twitter

02:34 schestowitz[TR]; before he died

02:34 schestowitz[TR]; Adrian

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Lamo

02:35 TR Bot; Adrian Lamo - Wikipedia

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; what's the latest?

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; "Despite a complete autopsy and supplemental testing, no definitive cause of death was identified."

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article210989594.html

↺ http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article210989594.html

02:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4498280/Adrian-20-Lamo.pdf

↺ https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4498280/Adrian-20-Lamo.pdf

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; why does Wikipediaa have such a long article about him?

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; comes to show hoiw stupid wikipedia is

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; it's not like he's a very important person

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; I know people who get people to write extensive wikipedia pages about themselves

02:36 schestowitz[TR]; toi make them LOOK important

02:36 ender2070_16bit; there was this really good documentary which included Andrian Lamo called "Hackers Wanted" and it made me find him

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; "b"

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; "Lamo was best known for reporting U.S. soldier Chelsea Manning to Army criminal investigators in 2010"

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; This was his claim to fame

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; beign a rat

02:37 Helenah; Mew

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; *being

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02:37 schestowitz[TR]; apparently with tantoo fbi somethiong

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02:37 ender2070_16bit; i love Chelsea Manning

02:37 XRevan86; > ICQ < https://zona.media/news/2018/05/17/ispyonyou >

↺ https://zona.media/news/2018/05/17/ispyonyou

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; being turned into asset, allagedly

02:37 XRevan86; Found it.

02:37 schestowitz[TR]; *llgedly

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; "Lamo was a grey hat hacker who viewed the rise of the World Wide Web with a mixture of excitement and alarm. "

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; This is not info

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; this is promotional prose

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; an obituary

02:38 Helenah; I <3 my cat, he's loyal to me. :3

02:38 schestowitz[TR]; in wikipedia

02:38 Helenah; He follows me everywhere.

02:39 Helenah; I treat him like a baby.

02:39 schestowitz[TR]; wikipedia's demise makes me sad, I gave them lots of links

02:39 Helenah; <3

02:39 ender2070_16bit; i love cats

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02:39 schestowitz[TR]; our neighbours' cats come here

02:39 schestowitz[TR]; we pat them, let them off

02:39 Helenah; ender2070_16bit: He follows me to the shop!

02:39 Helenah; :D

02:39 schestowitz[TR]; no responsibility needed

02:39 Helenah; And I let him do it!!! :D

02:39 schestowitz[TR]; no fur in the home

02:39 ender2070_16bit; :D

02:39 Helenah; Then he waits outside the shop for me!

02:40 Helenah; It's like having a dog on a lead exept it's a cat that acts as your companion! :D

02:40 Helenah; I fuckin' <3 him!

02:40 ender2070_16bit; thats so cute

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02:40 Helenah; Yeah :D

02:40 schestowitz[TR]; yo dawg, i heard you hed cats!

02:40 Helenah; There is even a main road, he like... waits for cars to go by before crossing, what a smart cat!

02:40 Helenah; Anyway...

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02:40 schestowitz[TR]; *herd

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02:41 Helenah; I can't reproduce and like I love him like he's offspring, he's soo lovely <3

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02:41 Helenah; He's called George

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; cats are vicious animals:-)

02:41 Helenah; Or Georgeeeeeeeee

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; big cats are bigly vicious animals

02:41 Helenah; because cats respond better to that in like a high pitch

02:41 schestowitz[TR]; they gang up on harmless large mammals

02:42 ender2070_16bit; i had a cat named Xenu, i named her after scientology's devil

02:42 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: He has a bell.

02:42 ender2070_16bit; Lord Xenu

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02:42 Helenah; So no bird killing.

02:42 schestowitz[TR]; ender@xenu # du

02:42 ender2070_16bit; lol

02:43 Helenah; I respect the environment and domesticated cats are an imbalance in the eco system, they are by nature bigger than that, they are now at a bigger advantage because of their tiny lightweight bodies.

02:43 ender2070_16bit; my hostname is actually "archbtw"

02:43 Helenah; People don't think of this but it's true!

02:43 Helenah; They're a man made speices...

02:43 schestowitz[TR]; "i use archbtw btw'

02:43 Helenah; They have been bred by humans to be that way.

02:43 ender2070_16bit; LOL

02:44 Helenah; So I think humans should take full responsibility for what they created.

02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-24.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-24.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

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02:44 loner; cats eat squirrels, they're brutal

02:44 schestowitz[TR]; 'created'

02:44 Helenah; But yeah he's sweeeeeeet :3

02:44 schestowitz[TR]; selective breeding

02:44 Helenah; loner: Yeah but mine can't because he has a bell.

02:44 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is just angry that free speech finds a way.

02:44 schestowitz[TR]; taking oddball small ones

02:44 schestowitz[TR]; iterating over and over

02:44 DaemonFC; I haven't seen any strong evidence that even Kiwi Farms has driven anyone to suicide.

02:44 schestowitz[TR]; until the animals cannot even give natural birth

02:44 Helenah; The point of the bell is so nearby creatures can hear the cat approaching.

02:45 schestowitz[TR]; and struggle to beathe

02:45 schestowitz[TR]; *breathe

02:45 DaemonFC; One of the three possible examples listed on Wikipedia was a pseudonym of a person who may or may not have ever existed.

02:46 DaemonFC; The administrator of the site tells another story completely.

02:46 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254332

↺ https://theins.press/en/news/254332

02:46 DaemonFC; One of being "deplatformed" by Cancel Culture people and constant harassment via lawsuit.

02:47 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254342

↺ https://theins.press/en/news/254342

02:47 DaemonFC; It may be better to revive the site as a Tor Hidden Service.

02:47 DaemonFC; That would make it harder to take down.

02:47 *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights

02:47 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77

02:47 DaemonFC; They haven't actually done anything illegal, but people like GULAG don't care about that.

02:47 starstreak; Hackers Wanted (Documentary): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY

02:47 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY

↺ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY

02:47 XRevan86; "One nation, one president, one victory Politicians and propagandists turn Dugina's memorial service into a pro-war rally"

02:47 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=Mn3ooBnShtY )

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02:48 XRevan86; "Missing anti-Kadyrov Telegram chat moderator killed, Team Against Torture lawyer says"

02:49 schestowitz[TR]; if gulag bans you, you are guilty

02:49 Helenah; I think I got the black lung...

02:49 schestowitz[TR]; what schmidt said

02:49 Helenah; Just kidding but...

02:49 Helenah; I'm doing a lot of coughing like cause I smoke

02:49 XRevan86; "One nation, one president, one victory" <- The new head of LDPR (the party of Zhirinovsky) gets it.

02:49 Helenah; big black phlems are coming up, I need to quit, I seriously need to quit...

02:49 schestowitz[TR]; https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4

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02:49 Helenah; I've had this before...

02:50 Helenah; I stopped smoking for a bit and they got healthier looking until they were back to healthy.

02:50 Helenah; But yeah my phlem is black currently.

02:50 AdmFubar; yummy

02:50 Helenah; AdmFubar: What is? Black phlem? o.o

02:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rXHnijzImE0

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02:51 TR Bot; D Smoke Performs Black Habits I Alongside Deontay Wilder at WilderFuryII - Invidious

02:58 TR News; (NEW): EasyOS 32-bit i686 Dunfell-series version 4.3.5 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/EasyOS_32_bit_i686_Dunfell_series_version_4_3_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/EasyOS_32_bit_i686_Dunfell_series_version_4_3_5.gmi

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02:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines EasyOS 32-bit i686 Dunfell-series version 4.3.5

02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 108.65


3 AM, August 25

03:01 DaemonFC; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-accused-threatening-conservative-convention-rcna44157

↺ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-accused-threatening-conservative-convention-rcna44157

03:01 TR Bot; Texas man accused of threatening conservative convention

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; g conservative convention

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; code for coup plot

03:01 schestowitz[TR]; threatening to overthrow the government?

03:02 DaemonFC; The FBI arrested a leftist Latino teenager for threatening mass murder.

03:02 DaemonFC; So, uhhhh.

03:02 DaemonFC; It was their terrorism task force that got him.

03:02 DaemonFC; "Velasquez was arrested in San Antonio and charged with making threatening interstate communications. He was also charged with possession of child pornography for images allegedly found on his phone."

03:03 *DaemonFC laughs

03:03 schestowitz[TR]; FBI to GOP: no, we are not biased

03:03 schestowitz[TR]; "we also entrap brown people"

03:03 DaemonFC; They also found child porn on his phone.

03:03 DaemonFC; Maybe mjg59_ can petititon to remove "LatinoZoomer" from Shitter.

03:04 DaemonFC; From his ShitHub account, of course.

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; they often seem to add some CP on top of it

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; to make sure nobody online would express sympathy

03:04 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 208745 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42277 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 weeks 6 days ago

03:04 Helenah; tut tut tut tut

03:04 Helenah; Windows 11 sounds a mess!

03:04 Helenah; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11

03:04 TR Bot; Windows 11 - Wikipedia

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; it''s Vista 11

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; the service pack of Vists 10

03:04 schestowitz[TR]; to make it seem like something new gets made

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; it's "mojave experiment II"

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; Wikipedia is gamed by Microsoft

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03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 5.7 GB TotalOut: 1.9 GB

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; never look up Microsoft products names in wikipedia

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2008/12/05/waggener-edstrom-wikipedia/

http://techrights.org/2008/12/05/waggener-edstrom-wikipedia/

03:05 TR Bot; Microsoft Agents from Waggener Edstrom Airbrush Wikipedia, Glorify Paymaster | Techrights

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; military-grade propaagnda

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; literally connected to the US military

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; Shaw/WER

03:05 schestowitz[TR]; *E-W

03:06 Helenah; Read it though and you'll see why it's bad... the differences from that and Windows 10...

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; *W-E rather

03:06 Helenah; Windows gets worse by version...

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; it's written by Microsoft

03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; by proxy

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; oe edited

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; like, delete what they don't like

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; only let the flattering things stay

03:06 Helenah; Well if so then they've brought themselves down, shot themselves in the foot, wrote negative shit about themselves.

03:06 DaemonFC; First they came for the Social Justice Warriors, and I said nothing because I was not a Social Justice Warrior. Then they came for the groomers, and I said nothing, because I was not a groomer. Then they came for the left-wing Latino terrorist, and I said nothing because I was not a left-wing Latino terrorist. And then they came for the child pornographers. And I again said nothing, because I wasn't a child pornographer.

03:06 schestowitz[TR]; that's collaboration -- the Microsoft way

03:06 DaemonFC; :P

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03:07 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you know, I went to the gym today

03:07 schestowitz[TR]; first time in 15 months

03:07 Helenah; Like...

03:07 schestowitz[TR]; we're not getting back there

03:08 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is arguing for canceling the people who point out that most of the people who go away for CP are, uhhhh, not conservatives.

03:08 Helenah; The crazy thing is...

03:08 DaemonFC; :)

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; will still work out from home

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; COVID-19 killed it for us

03:08 Helenah; This is a repeat of the Windows 98 situation

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; WIndows ME

03:08 Helenah; Which caused landfill to be full of i486 machines overnight!

03:08 Helenah; They're doing it again...

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; with TPM

03:08 Helenah; Which means more waste...

03:08 schestowitz[TR]; they won't pull this off

03:09 Helenah; And CPU gen too

03:09 DaemonFC; Why would you toss a 486 in the landfill? It should run Windows 98 just fine after removing the Antitrust bullshit and turning it back into a glorified Windows 95.

03:09 Helenah; I'm not happy about this.

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/12-months-later-vista-11-still-mia-very-small-share-and-in-some-places-vista-7-has-higher-share-than-vista-10/

http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/12-months-later-vista-11-still-mia-very-small-share-and-in-some-places-vista-7-has-higher-share-than-vista-10/

03:09 TR Bot; 12 Months Later Vista 11 Still MIA (Very Small Share) and in Some Places Vista 7 Has Higher Share Than Vista 10! | Techrights

03:09 Helenah; DaemonFC: Because people want more.

03:09 Helenah; All the time they want more

03:09 Helenah; And Microsoft know this

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; no

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; they buy a new PC

03:09 Helenah; So what happens is you obsolete hardware overnight

03:09 schestowitz[TR]; the old one broke

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; and new ones will force them to get an OS they do not want

03:10 Helenah; and people will bow down to you and buy a new PC

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; that's not free market

03:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's a cartel

03:10 Helenah; And so landfill gets filled with a generation of PCs

03:10 Helenah; And I'm not happy about that...

03:10 DaemonFC; https://nitter.it/QuarantinedCoof/status/1560642098667261957#m

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03:10 TR Bot; (@QuarantinedCoof): "I'm noticing a pattern. Baked Alaska - Jan 6th, assault, vandalism Ethan Ralph - Revenge porn Big Tech - Domestic violence, Child abuse Latino Zoomer - Terroristic threats, Child pornography"|nitter.it

03:10 Helenah; Plus I never liked how Windows nannied the user.

03:11 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/

http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/

03:11 TR Bot; My Year as a Digital Vegan Part IX Hard Reckonings: The Nine Circles of E-Waste | Techrights

03:11 Helenah; GNU/Linux <3

03:11 Helenah; I got a teddy collection

03:11 Helenah; I've yet to add a tux to it! :(

03:12 Helenah; A good old plain tux, no fancy bells and whistles like a red hat on its head.

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; maybe gnu

03:12 schestowitz[TR]; https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gift

↺ https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gift

03:12 Helenah; Yeah :D

03:12 TR Bot; Gift - Free Software Directory

03:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://shop.fsf.org/

↺ https://shop.fsf.org/

03:13 TR Bot; FSF Shop

03:13 Helenah; You remember back when Mandriva was called Mandrake? They had a store and on that store they were selling these HUGE and I'm not kidding, they were the best tux on the market, tux penguin teddies! :D

03:13 schestowitz[TR]; $35.00 for a tshirt

03:14 DaemonFC; I don't know what these people are so angry about.

03:14 Helenah; And they were a popular buyers choice.

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; that probaby costs 2 dollars at most to make in Bangladesh

03:14 schestowitz[TR]; made by workers who are paid under $2 for a whole day

03:14 DaemonFC; A lot of them have more money than me, they're half my age with their entire life ahead of them, they look better than I do.

03:14 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Agreed

03:14 DaemonFC; What's there to be mad about?

03:14 Helenah; But people will try and justify it

03:15 Helenah; They'll try and justify the markup on the t-shirt price.

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; https://shop.fsf.org/gear/stuffed-baby-gnu

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03:15 TR Bot; Stuffed Baby Gnu | FSF Shop

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; 25 dollars

03:15 schestowitz[TR]; let's compare to ebaty

03:15 DaemonFC; The nutty thing about being pissed off is telling people you're about to kill people.

03:16 DaemonFC; I mean, do you want to be arrested for doing it or for talking about it?

03:16 DaemonFC; Then again, half the time the cops are so fucking retarded that they miss people like Robert Crimo and issue them gun permits after they know what they are.

03:17 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155027356018

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155027356018

03:17 TR Bot; PAPO Wild Animal Kingdom Gnu Toy Figure 3465000501013 | eBay

03:17 DaemonFC; You notice how they just let things like this happen and then they happen to have a 1,400 page gun bill ready to pass in the middle of the night? And even if it doesn't pass, that's fine because the State Police will use it as an excuse for gun confiscation anyway?

03:18 DaemonFC; You don't write bills this long in the 1-2 days after a mass shooting. You write them and then you let something happen so you can pass them.

03:18 DaemonFC; That's how they did the PATRIOT ACT.

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; rapberry pi 4 on sale... ripoffs now

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; due tto shortages

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195306794107

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/195306794107

03:18 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B With 8GB Ram | eBay

03:18 schestowitz[TR]; more than twice original RRP

03:19 DaemonFC; The State of Illinois wanted the Highland Park Shooting to happen. Why else would they have issued a FOID card to a guy they'd already removed weapons from twice and taken to be "observed" after suicidal threats, who was kicked out of high school for having a "kill book" complete with drawing pictures of himself killing his classmates.

03:19 DaemonFC; Makes no sense at all.

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144662441640

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144662441640

03:19 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - 4GB Ram - Brand New In sealed Box | eBay

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; 96 pounds

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; used to be 45 or 25 IIRC

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; or 35

03:19 schestowitz[TR]; same thing, 3 years later... 3 times the price

03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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03:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The air conditioner is drawing in the neighbor's nasty cigarettes.

03:20 DaemonFC; Ick.

03:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295180439681 < USED ones still for MORE than the NEW thing

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295180439681

03:20 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB RAM FULLY WORKING With Argon One Case | eBay

03:20 schestowitz[TR]; so you sell your used pi for more than you got it for!

03:20 Helenah; Did I show my nails? :3 https://i.imgur.com/6qxQIhd.jpg

↺ https://i.imgur.com/6qxQIhd.jpg

03:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225130574560 77 pounds for USED one

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225130574560

03:20 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB RAM Single Board Computer with case and fan | eBay

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; roy's nails https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Spijkers_%28Nails%29.jpg/220px-Spijkers_%28Nails%29.jpg

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03:22 ender2070_16bit; i wouldn't mind owning a raspi 4

03:22 ender2070_16bit; but im thinking rock64 might be a better option

03:22 schestowitz[TR]; they became expensive

03:23 ender2070_16bit; :(

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; like half the price of a decent laptop

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; and a laptop has keyboard, screen, more

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; webcam, mic..

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; fans!

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; battery!!

03:23 schestowitz[TR]; so it works without power (outages)

03:24 starstreak; https://www.pine64.org/devices/single-board-computers/rock64/

↺ https://www.pine64.org/devices/single-board-computers/rock64/

03:24 TR Bot; ROCK64 | PINE64

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; rianne managed to get a raspi400 before the price soared completely

03:24 ender2070_16bit; nice

03:24 schestowitz[TR]; now 104, just for the base unit https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334285996791?epid=6042469748

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334285996791?epid=6042469748

03:24 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 400 Computer Kit UK Keyboard Layout 633696492981 | eBay

03:25 ender2070_16bit; a raspi400 is nice but I'd want to use my own keyboard

03:25 ender2070_16bit; i have a nice clicky mechanical one

03:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mostly I like the VPN and HTTPS-only Mode and not using GULAG directly for anything because I don't want it to be logged with GULAG when I become interested in something.

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; even used ones now cost more than what she paid https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115500193543?

↺ https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115500193543?

03:25 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 400 (microSD, Broadcom BCM2711, 1.80 GHz, 4GB, US layout) Keyboard | eBay

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; she paid in february

03:25 schestowitz[TR]; just before putler diddled with his ...

03:25 ender2070_16bit; lol

03:25 DaemonFC; I mean, if you're interested in something that's not illegal but it could be used to embarrass you or justify additional surveillance you don't know about....

03:26 DaemonFC; Why would you want GULAG to know about it?

03:26 DaemonFC; The government doesn't necessarily need to have anything damning on you to start watching you more.

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4

↺ https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4

03:26 schestowitz[TR]; mind controls

03:27 DaemonFC; And it can make bad things happen that seem totally random.

03:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Like, you end up on their shitlist and your license plate goes by a cop car.

03:27 DaemonFC; You start getting tickets every time you're out.

03:27 DaemonFC; Coincidence?

03:27 schestowitz[TR]; the tickets are love letters

03:28 ender2070_16bit; eric schmidt is a piece of work

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03:28 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aNFbYEKm3qg

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03:28 TR Bot; Latino Zoomer Reading my awesome Quote - Invidious

03:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Does this guy not seem weird?

03:29 DaemonFC; I think this must have been a few years before they busted him last week.

03:29 DaemonFC; They said he turned 19 on the day they arrested him (Friday).

03:29 phanes; https://youtu.be/uXzhx1gQY8A

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03:29 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=uXzhx1gQY8A

↺ https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=uXzhx1gQY8A

03:29 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Top 5 Best Dash Cam for Police Encounter & Stops in 2022 (Buying Guide & Review) - Invidious

03:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Emphasis on 23 seconds into the video.

03:31 DaemonFC; "*laughs creepily* Nice private parts I can play with!" then near the end "Respectful of minorities and a Christian."

03:31 DaemonFC; "threatened SAS tampa and got arrested and they found cheese pizza on his phone"

03:32 DaemonFC; So that's how people are getting by GULAG Tube's censor bot now.

03:32 DaemonFC; CP - Cheese Pizza

03:33 ender2070_16bit; oh yay my eyes are fucked

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; ""Um, no, a box of frozen pizza rolls is not $22

03:34 *ender2070_16bit gets glasses

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5bax7/bill-gates-is-adorably-terrible-at-guessing-the-cost-of-everyday-groceries

↺ https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5bax7/bill-gates-is-adorably-terrible-at-guessing-the-cost-of-everyday-groceries

03:34 TR Bot; Bill Gates Is Adorably Terrible at Guessing the Cost of Everyday Groceries

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; Bill is like all of us :-)

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; MSM

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; funded by Bill

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; "Adorably Terrible"

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; adorable!!

03:34 DaemonFC; Yes, Bill Gates is adorable

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; adorable thieves

03:34 schestowitz[TR]; adorable

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bills-friendship-with-epstein-helped-drive-us-to-divorce-says-melinda-gates-7dxqptp96

↺ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bills-friendship-with-epstein-helped-drive-us-to-divorce-says-melinda-gates-7dxqptp96

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; adorable

03:35 TR Bot; Bills friendship with Epstein helped drive us to divorce, says Melinda Gates | News | The Times

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html

03:35 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; adorable

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/

http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/

03:35 TR Bot; Sheela Microsoft (Zemlin) Does Not Like Linux and Jim Zemlin Idolises Bill Gates | Techrights

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; adorable

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; what jim zemlin called his daughter

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; "adorable"

03:35 ender2070_16bit; bill gates is going to give all his money away to charity and thats because the divorce will end up costing him 50%

03:35 schestowitz[TR]; in TED talk

03:36 ender2070_16bit; if he spends it before the divorce goes to court he wont have any money to give her

03:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI

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03:36 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI

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03:36 TR Bot; not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI )

↺ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI

03:36 schestowitz[TR]; if you search gulag for anything "bill gates" they will tell you alll abot "conspiracy theories"

03:36 schestowitz[TR]; amplifying the nonsense

03:37 schestowitz[TR]; to distract from legit criticism

03:37 schestowitz[TR]; gulag is an oligarch's buddy

03:37 schestowitz[TR]; unless you are RUSSIAN oligarhs

03:37 schestowitz[TR]; does sergei brin count as russian oligarchs?

03:37 schestowitz[TR]; he is richa dn born in moscow

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; "search engines" became just filters

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they used to strive to be actual search sites

03:38 schestowitz[TR]; now it's another layer of social control

03:38 ender2070_16bit; apparently chrome won't support ad blockers after january

03:38 ender2070_16bit; i wonder if brave will be effected

03:40 ender2070_16bit; it has its own ad blocker but i use ublock origin

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; www needs to die already

03:40 schestowitz[TR]; it's drm

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's forcing you to submit to CA cartel

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's bloated

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's a noise machine

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; we need alternatives to be adopted

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; gnunet is also interesting

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; but not stable yet

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; they did to tim b-l what they do to linus

03:41 schestowitz[TR]; w3c became like lf

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium

http://techrights.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium

03:42 TR Bot; World Wide Web Consortium - Techrights

03:42 schestowitz[TR]; also moz http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla

03:42 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights

03:43 TR News; (NEW): Robustel industrial IoT gateways run Debian-based OS, offer 5G, 4G LTE, LoRaWAN connectivity https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Robustel_industrial_IoT_gateways_run_Debian_based_OS_offer_5G_4.gmi

03:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Robustel industrial IoT gateways run Debian-based OS, offer 5G, 4G LTE, LoRaWAN connectivity

03:45 DaemonFC; "I want to mention that while DT_HASH is very good at finding existing symbols, it performs badly with the missing ones. As you could see in the example with searching for "foobar", you need to walk through a random chain and compare strings only to bump into the STN_UNDEF. This becomes even worse in real life because symbols are searched in multiple shared libraries, so you'll have to walk multiple random chains."

03:46 DaemonFC; Brought to you by Fraunhofer? :P

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03:47 DaemonFC; They made MP3. A codec so advanced it didn't have any concept of seek tables.

03:48 DaemonFC; DAAAAAALEKS HAVE NO CONCEEEEEEPT OF ELEGAAAAAAAANCE!

03:49 DaemonFC; Apple's MP3 decoder still has only crude seeking support.

03:49 DaemonFC; It assumes all frames are the same size as the first one in the file.

03:50 DaemonFC; Which works out well when it's VBR and you'll be correct no more than about 15-20% of the time.

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03:50 TR News; (NEW): Firefox 105 Beta Brings Memory Fixes, Two-Finger Swipe Back/Forward Gesture on Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Firefox_105_Beta_Brings_Memory_Fixes_Two_Finger_Swipe_Gesture.gmi

03:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Firefox 105 Beta Brings Memory Fixes, Two-Finger Swipe Back/Forward Gesture on Linux

03:50 DaemonFC; The end result being the user clicks on the progress bar and ends up at a completely unexpected point in the file.

03:51 TR News; It hasn't even been 3 years since COVID-19 and at the gym (where I was for 20 years) they've already sacked/pushed out 3 administrators. It's insane.

03:51 DaemonFC; Every competently designed decoder walks the entire file in the background and builds a seek table that works. You can accomplish this in <1 second on almost any computer.

03:52 DaemonFC; It's not how the specification should have been designed, but there are ways to deal with it. Apparently a "trillion dollar company" can't do that.

03:53 TR News; 2 days ago: "In the long run, when this is all over I think we will see a much larger percentage of Linux and Ope Source use, at least in Russia. Which too is unlikely to hurt the mentioned corporate players." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36793/

↺ http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36793/

03:53 TR Bot; What part of open source do they not understand?: Red Hat moves out of Russia

03:53 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> it's forcing you to submit to CA cartel

03:53 DaemonFC; Let's Encrypt is a band-aid that's designed as an attack on CACert.

03:53 TR News; "I've just moved to Manjaro after an 11 hour upgrade of Linux Mint Cinnamon (20.3 to 21.0) left me with a broken desktop. For me it's a return to KDE, and I'm loving it." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36801/

↺ http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36801/

03:53 TR Bot; I'm running Garuda on my laptop.: Garuda Linux: All-Rounder Distro Based on Arch Linux

03:53 DaemonFC; mjg59_ probably knows that even if he'd never say so.

03:55 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/300212903_519247640009382_3964893351813664494_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=aflEX6v1fJoAX_L6Bnk&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT_6gTv_ZQZd2bg_RtZaZ-Ai8L206PQE7dMXF0yLPlQECA&oe=630BA9A3

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03:55 ender2070_16bit; garuda linux eh, i use arch btw

03:58 DaemonFC; Liberals: Elon Musk is going to save the planet with the Teslas!

03:58 DaemonFC; https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/elon-musk-planes-9-minute-35-mile-flight-sparks-outrage/

↺ https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/elon-musk-planes-9-minute-35-mile-flight-sparks-outrage/

03:58 TR Bot; Elon Musk plane's 9-minute, 35-mile flight sparks outrage

03:58 starstreak; https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/

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03:58 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/ )

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03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.03

03:59 DaemonFC; https://nypost.com/2022/08/24/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-is-just-joe-sticking-it-to-the-little-guy-again/

↺ https://nypost.com/2022/08/24/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-is-just-joe-sticking-it-to-the-little-guy-again/

03:59 TR Bot; Biden's student loan 'forgiveness' is just Joe sticking it to the little guy -- again


4 AM, August 25

04:00 *ender2070_16bit slaps techrights-ipfs-bot around a bit with a large trout

04:00 DaemonFC; "The reality is that its not the government forgiving debt but the US taxpayer being forced to cover it. And estimates show canceling $10,000 per borrower earning less than $125,000 will cost the country a whopping $300 billion and each US taxpayer around $2,000."

04:00 DaemonFC; I hope someone sues to block this.

04:01 DaemonFC; Since it costs every taxpayer money, every person who pays taxes in America is harmed and has standing to sue.

04:01 DaemonFC; There's also no provision in any law that gives Biden the authority to do this.

04:02 DaemonFC; The only law on student loan forgiveness is for people who attended a college that was taken to court by the DoJ for defrauding its students.

04:02 DaemonFC; Being an idiot and signing a loan document does not make the loan a "fraud".

04:03 DaemonFC; "The universities themselves, meanwhile, must be thrilled by Bidens plan. Loan forgiveness functions the same way federal aid does: It essentially greenlights colleges and universities to continue to hike prices, knowing the federal government has no qualms about covering tuition costs in the immediate future. No wonder student debt is expected to climb back to its current levels within the next four years. Indeed, as basic economics teache

04:03 DaemonFC; s us, adding a lane to the highway does not reduce traffic it increases demand and often makes traffic worse."

04:03 DaemonFC; Yes, more people will take on loan debt expecting to demand "forgiveness" again later.

04:04 DaemonFC; But I wouldn't bet on that. Biden's days in office are numbered.

04:04 DaemonFC; And he's even pissing me off.

04:04 DaemonFC; "Any serious discussion surrounding student debt would ask the fundamental question of how best to reduce tuition price tags, as ours dwarf those of peer nations. But this isnt a serious discussion. It is a bribe to Bidens base in anticipation of the midterm elections, and the US taxpayers are the ones footing the bill."

04:05 DaemonFC; It's a bad idea.

04:05 DaemonFC; People who didn't get to go or worked very hard to pay theirs off won't be happy about it.

04:07 TR News; Yesterday's Official Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/

04:07 TR Bot; Blog Archive Tale of Three Summers of COVID-19 in the UK, as Told by Yesterdays Official Numbers

04:07 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/22/illinois-residents-who-used-snapchat-eligible-for-payout-from-35-million-settlement/

↺ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/22/illinois-residents-who-used-snapchat-eligible-for-payout-from-35-million-settlement/

04:07 TR Bot; Illinois residents who used Snapchat eligible for payout from $35 million settlement

04:07 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, August 24, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

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04:07 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

04:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Snapchat (Facebook) and BIPA, again.

04:08 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

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04:08 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

04:08 DaemonFC; This brings their total losses to like $600 million under the BIPA.

04:08 Helenah; Garlic bread

04:08 ender2070_16bit; yum

04:08 Helenah; :3

04:09 Helenah; So erm... did anyone see my pretty nails? :3 https://i.imgur.com/6qxQIhd.jpg

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04:10 Helenah; I painted them blue

04:10 Helenah; but the truth is I painted them red

04:10 ender2070_16bit; yeah they look nice

04:10 ender2070_16bit; i'd add a coat of clear glitter myself

04:10 Helenah; Ooooo

04:11 Helenah; I've done that many times, I should do that at some point again. :D

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; Garlic bread is good

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; usually a bit expensive

04:12 ender2070_16bit; you can make your own

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; lots fo work

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; and not the same quality

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; naan is also good, btu expensive

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; some ingredients are hard to get

04:12 ender2070_16bit; i love garlic naan

04:12 schestowitz[TR]; and the process

04:13 Helenah; Yeah I make my own and it tastes a whole lot better! :3

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; they sell them as singles and doubles here

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; and it's like one pound

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; you can get a whole loaf of bread for less

04:13 schestowitz[TR]; now with ovens costing more to oeprate

04:14 ender2070_16bit; i love eating hamburgers with mini naan rounds

04:14 loner; gladly, i worked off my student loan

04:14 Helenah; For reference guys, 1 GBP = 1.18 USD = 1.18 EUR

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; they should consider rationing energy

04:14 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid blackouts and brownouts

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; loner: harder to do in us than deutschland

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; cost of raising kid 300k

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; average, that is

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; to 18

04:15 schestowitz[TR]; "better off" families maybe 500,000

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; than 300k for "good" college

04:16 Helenah; It's probably good in the end that I don't have a kid.

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; so 3 kids can cost 2.5 million dollars

04:16 loner; schestowitz[TR]: with 100K annual income or something

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; 2 million pounds

04:16 loner; ?

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; those jobs are terriblew

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; they get you to work long hours

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; and then ask you to use their 'free' smart phone

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; so they can pester you any time of the day

04:16 schestowitz[TR]; "BUT WE ARE PAYING YOU!@!"

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; "we own you.."

04:17 loner; how is this different?

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; "100% o f the time=" - IBM managers

04:17 Helenah; IBM

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; I once went to a former IBM office

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; it wa s sclient called first utility

04:17 Helenah; Interesting.

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; before they sold

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; they were losing customers when I was there

04:17 schestowitz[TR]; as I saw it in theior databases

04:18 Helenah; hmm

04:18 DaemonFC; Okay, I have signed up for this Facebook settlement too.

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; and they used a dead zombie building of old relic IBM

04:18 schestowitz[TR]; soon IBM will be an indian company

04:18 DaemonFC; I figure if they had to give me $500 last time, it'll probably be $50-60 out of this one.

04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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04:23 DaemonFC; My guess is that GNU is removing DT_HASH mostly to spite the BSDs again.

04:24 DaemonFC; If the BSDs want the Linuxulator to work, they'll need to implement DT_GNU_HASH if they haven't already in their libc.

04:25 TR News; Over 600 million cases of COVID-19 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries in the UK, 203,000 dead.

↺ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

04:25 TR Bot; COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

04:27 TR News; Always amusing to see China claiming that only 5k people died of COVID-19 there (5,226), compared to half a million in India or loads of people who nowadays die in South Korea and Japan (despite it being summer). Serves to show what a lying regime governs China.

04:28 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/23/cops-find-gang-member-in-possession-of-loaded-ak-47-style-rifle-handgun-in-waukegan-prosecutors/

↺ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/23/cops-find-gang-member-in-possession-of-loaded-ak-47-style-rifle-handgun-in-waukegan-prosecutors/

04:28 TR Bot; Cops find gang member in possession of loaded AK-47-style rifle, handgun in Waukegan: prosecutors

04:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Obviously he had a FOID card, you know.

04:29 DaemonFC; ;)

04:29 DaemonFC; The Mask, Jim Carey.....Detective pulls out a rocket launcher from his pocket.

04:29 DaemonFC; "I HAVE A PERMIT FOR THAT!"

04:29 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^

04:30 TR News; Your Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back https://yewtu.be/watch?v=m9goxwS0GR0

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=m9goxwS0GR0

04:30 TR Bot; Your Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back. - Invidious

04:30 DaemonFC; "Julius D. Gaines, 34, of North Chicago, was charged with armed habitual criminal, two counts of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, felon in possession of a firearm and possession of a controlled substance.

04:30 DaemonFC; Lake County Assistant States Attorney Lillian Lewis said officers with the Waukegan Police Department observed a vehicle with no tail light and no license plate last Wednesday.

04:30 DaemonFC; A traffic stop was conducted on the vehicle and Gaines was the driver and sole occupant."

04:30 DaemonFC; Mommas don't let your sons grow up to be an armed habitual felon with no license plate.

04:30 DaemonFC; Yes, I remember this song.

04:30 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Sing it with me now!

04:31 DaemonFC; I have a bottle of whiskey with your name on it if you can keep up.

04:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], See what happens?

04:32 TR News; Years after this talk he shoehorned or helped shoehorn DRM into Web browsers and Web site. Tim B-L: MAJOR disappointment. His solution: MOAR JavaScript... controlled by Microsoft proprietary software prison. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OM6XIICm_qo

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OM6XIICm_qo

04:32 TR Bot; Tim Berners-Lee: The next Web of open, linked data - Invidious

04:32 DaemonFC; Remember when I said, if you're going to commit a felony, don't commit misdemeanors and infractions?

04:32 DaemonFC; If he had a plate and a working tail light, they wouldn't have noticed him.

04:33 DaemonFC; "Lewis said that Gaines was not cooperative with officers and called a woman over to get things from him.

04:34 DaemonFC; Mistake #2: If you get pulled over anyway, be respectful.

04:34 DaemonFC; "While officers were speaking with Gaines, he handed the woman some of his belongings, which included a small bag. "Gaines was arrested and officers found a white powder substance in the bag, which was determined to be 2.1 grams of crack cocaine."

04:34 DaemonFC; Man, that's a lot of crack cocaine. That's like.....Hunter Biden quantities.

04:35 TR News; The Web wasn't even innovative. It was done similarly 3 decades earlier. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sz77x05rySc

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sz77x05rySc

04:35 TR Bot; Ian Ritchie: The day I turned down Tim Berners-Lee - Invidious

04:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Do you have a crack "epidemic" in the UK?

04:35 DaemonFC; Guessing no.

04:35 DaemonFC; They use the word "epidemic" like crack is a disease.

04:36 DaemonFC; "Hey, what happened to Steve?" Oh, it was The Crack. It kills you know. It's a really bad epidemic. Bill Gates has them working on a Crack Vaccine.

04:37 DaemonFC; I'm so glad I have the opportunity to live in America.

04:37 DaemonFC; Greatest country on Earth.

04:38 DaemonFC; And in the best state, no less. Felonois

04:39 schestowitz[TR]; yes drugs get compared tom viruses

04:39 schestowitz[TR]; even if they are just chemicals

04:39 schestowitz[TR]; the words get twisted a lot

04:39 schestowitz[TR]; they also call crimes that

04:40 schestowitz[TR]; like crime is biology

04:40 DaemonFC; Yeah, "crime wave".

04:40 DaemonFC; "crime epidemic"

04:40 DaemonFC; Well, let's ask our resident biologist mjg59_

04:40 DaemonFC; :)

04:41 DaemonFC; If he's not too busy pulling a MARISOL. Believing oneself to be all powerful is not a good sign.

04:41 DaemonFC; I see a lot of the same sort of behavior going on with him.

04:41 DaemonFC; He thinks threatening to leave his blog will get them to cancel Clownflare, which he's only mad about because they host Kiwi Farms, which is worse than the Taliban I'll have you know.

04:42 TR News; xkcd: Tetherball Configurations https://xkcd.com/2663/

↺ https://xkcd.com/2663/

04:42 TR Bot; Tetherball Configurations

04:43 DaemonFC; Kiwi Farms may or may not have been a contributing factor in the suicide of 2 or 3 entire people (1 may not exist and is known only due to a pseudonym) (the other two were definitely crazy to begin with, hell, one self-immolated).

04:43 DaemonFC; Even if that's true, which it's debateable, but even if true, the Taliban are definitely nowhere near as bad as the Kiwi Farms.

04:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I doubt we'll ever know how many people Chris Hansen drove to suicide for the entertainment and laughter of Americans.

04:44 DaemonFC; My guess is....more than Kiwi Farms.

04:46 DaemonFC; My guess is mjg59_ doesn't post on Shitter about Cloudflare and the Taliban.

04:46 DaemonFC; He doesn't want to insult Muslims.

04:47 DaemonFC; Or call attention to FGM or you know, women being kept illiterate and out of society.

04:47 ender2070_16bit; i think everyone should try LSD at least once in their life

04:47 ender2070_16bit; its such an experience

04:47 DaemonFC; And hmm, what would they do with trans people?

04:47 DaemonFC; Probably worse than calling one of them Keith.

04:47 DaemonFC; But what do I know?

04:47 ender2070_16bit; and watch a few movies on it: 2001 - A Space Oddessy, Tron, Star Trek 1, Dune 1980s

04:48 DaemonFC; Those were all terrible movies!

04:49 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't like them either

04:49 DaemonFC; Probably the best out of the three was Dune (1984) and that had me going "DO I REALLY NEED EXPOSITION VIA EVERY THOUGHT IN THIS CHARACTER'S HEAD!?".

04:49 schestowitz[TR]; there are much betetr films

04:49 schestowitz[TR]; like the second Back to the Future

04:50 schestowitz[TR]; take my word for it: 20 years from now nobody will give a crap about movied made in 2010-2022

04:50 schestowitz[TR]; *movies

04:50 DaemonFC; Wasn't that the one where Future Biff stole the sports almanac?

04:50 schestowitz[TR]; it is a dark age and the death of the industry

04:50 schestowitz[TR]; it just doesn't "accept" its death yet

04:50 schestowitz[TR]; by a thousand cuts

04:50 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> it is a dark age and the death of the industry

04:51 ender2070_16bit; they're good movies for being on LSD

04:51 DaemonFC; Oh Roy, you know that Emoji Movie was up there with Lawrence of Arabia in 4K.

04:51 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it's where they have hoverboards

04:51 ender2070_16bit; you don't like Tron?

04:51 ender2070_16bit; I absolutely love both Tron movies

04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the third one was awful

04:51 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, it was also the last

04:51 ender2070_16bit; there is a third?

04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the first was not so bad, but he travels backwards

04:51 schestowitz[TR]; and meets his parents

04:51 DaemonFC; I thought the third one was better.

04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the second was about what thye future would be like

04:52 DaemonFC; Yeah, the third one is a Western, because he gets stuck in the 1800s.

04:52 schestowitz[TR]; yes, awful

04:52 ender2070_16bit; oh you're talking about back to the future, all three were great. my favourite was #2

04:52 schestowitz[TR]; all that fox is remembered for is this franchsise and his parkinsons

04:53 DaemonFC; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_3

↺ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_3

04:53 ender2070_16bit; spin city was awesome

04:53 TR Bot; Back to the Future Part III - Rotten Tomatoes

04:53 DaemonFC; 80% on the Tomato Meter.

04:53 schestowitz[TR]; lloyd weber is dead

04:53 schestowitz[TR]; but he was also known for frankenstein iirc

04:53 DaemonFC; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_2

↺ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/back_to_the_future_2

04:53 TR Bot; Back to the Future Part II - Rotten Tomatoes

04:53 DaemonFC; 63%

04:53 DaemonFC; Seems the critic consensus is the third part was better.

04:53 schestowitz[TR]; www = dumb young people

04:53 DaemonFC; They're not always right.

04:53 ender2070_16bit; Freddy Got Fingered is such a classic, Tom Green is a genius

04:54 schestowitz[TR]; the mvoie predates this

04:54 schestowitz[TR]; probably a bunch of whiners clicking down on a man with hovrboard

04:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The reviews on Rotten Tomatoes can go back into the 90s.

04:54 schestowitz[TR]; while clicking on their "Smart" phones

04:54 DaemonFC; Roger Ebert is one of the critics on some of them.

04:55 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.shtml

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04:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

04:55 DaemonFC; I guess I don't get Italian humor. I was mislead into watching a movie called "Short Skin" assured that it would be as funny as "American Pie".

04:56 schestowitz[TR]; which one?

04:56 schestowitz[TR]; the first?

04:56 schestowitz[TR]; the latter was shit

04:56 DaemonFC; And it turns out to be about a 14 year old Italian teenager who has painfully tight foreskin and there's an entire scene of him fucking a dead octopus he got from the store in the bathroom sink.

04:56 DaemonFC; (No it's not CP. The actor was like 19 when he did that scene!)

04:56 DaemonFC; I'm surprised the DVD was at the library in Fort Wayne though.

04:57 loner; watched Casino (1995) recently

04:57 DaemonFC; https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/short_skin

↺ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/short_skin

04:57 TR Bot; Short Skin - Rotten Tomatoes

04:58 loner; italian humor

04:59 TR News; Security Advisory 2022-02 for PowerDNS Recursor up to and including 4.5.9, 4.6.2, 4.7.1 https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/08/23/security-advisory-2022-02-for-powerdns-recursor-up-to-and-including-4-5-9-4-6-2-4-7-1/

↺ https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/08/23/security-advisory-2022-02-for-powerdns-recursor-up-to-and-including-4-5-9-4-6-2-4-7-1/

04:59 TR Bot; Security Advisory 2022-02 for PowerDNS Recursor up to and including 4.5.9, 4.6.2, 4.7.1 | PowerDNS Blog

04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.10


5 AM, August 25

05:00 DaemonFC; My dad had that problem though.

05:00 DaemonFC; He had to get circumcised when he was 12 to deal with it.

05:01 loner; this is something, the world has to know

05:01 loner; your dad was circumcised

05:01 TR News; The Windows rival to the GNU/Linux-based Steam Decks seems like a sad joke https://xeiaso.net/blog/anbernic-win600-review

↺ https://xeiaso.net/blog/anbernic-win600-review

05:02 TR Bot; Anbernic Win600 Review - Xe

05:02 loner; you know, i got trouble, digesting cheese and milk products

05:02 DaemonFC; Well almost everyone here is.

05:02 schestowitz[TR]; lactose?

05:02 DaemonFC; If you're not, it usually means your parents were poor.

05:03 loner; one of the best moments in the movie Casino (1995): "The bosses shit onto supreme court and all this crap." that's italian humor

05:03 ender2070_16bit; cheese is just a loaf of milk

05:03 loner; and the "happy ending" too was, exceptional italian humor i would say

05:03 *ender2070_16bit slaps loner around a bit with a large trout

05:03 DaemonFC; Just based on my own observation, I'd say about 2-3% of American men are uncircumcised if that, and all of them I've known were really poor growing up.

05:04 DaemonFC; Oddly, the poorest one was circumcised though.

05:04 DaemonFC; But it's almost without a doubt if you're in the US and uncircumcised, you're either poor, a racial minority, or both.

05:05 DaemonFC; But the practice seems to have caught on in the Hispanic/Latino population here.

05:05 schestowitz[TR]; <ender2070_16bit> cheese is just a loaf of milk

05:05 DaemonFC; It seems to be something of a class indicator, although I've never found many studies on the issue.

05:05 schestowitz[TR]; eggs are abortions

05:06 DaemonFC; The US CDC does post racial statistics with STDs and abortions.

05:06 ender2070_16bit; if you got two pillows, one of your pillows is using the other as a pillow

05:06 DaemonFC; Their statistics say you're about 9 times as likely to encounter an STD from a black sex partner.

05:06 DaemonFC; Of course, they never expand and speculate on why that is.

05:06 TR News; LOL!! Buzzwords as "shifts". Who pays for this fake hype? Fakebook? https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/metaverse-matthew-ball-book-interview

↺ https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/metaverse-matthew-ball-book-interview

05:06 TR Bot; metaverse, as explained by Matthew Ball - Protocol

05:07 loner; anyway, the movie Casino is worth watching, if you got the sense of italian humor

05:07 DaemonFC; Bill Gates did the botched circumcision experiment in Africa.

05:07 DaemonFC; But nobody has ever suggested that circumcision plays into how likely you are to get Syphilis.

05:07 DaemonFC; And that risk is 5 times higher.

05:08 schestowitz[TR]; humans: we correct nature

05:08 schestowitz[TR]; and evolution, too

05:08 schestowitz[TR]; "plastic" "surgery"

05:08 DaemonFC; Either way, I doubt circumcision could possibly explain a 500% higher Syphilis rate or a 13x higher HIV rate.

05:08 schestowitz[TR]; I always called that "butchering"

05:08 schestowitz[TR]; and some people adopted this term they heard from me

05:08 DaemonFC; *circumcision status

05:09 DaemonFC; I've heard all sorts of "possible" explanations.

05:09 schestowitz[TR]; humans also cut tails of animals

05:09 schestowitz[TR]; and declaw cats

05:09 DaemonFC; Including black men having sex with each other thinking it's not gay if you don't wear a condom.

05:09 schestowitz[TR]; like they "remove" seeds from fruit and veg

05:10 DaemonFC; Or if you leave your socks on.

05:10 DaemonFC; But that was something John told me. So take that for what it is.

05:10 loner; "it's not gay if you don't wear a condom"

05:10 loner; DaemonFC: ???

05:11 DaemonFC; That's what John told me black men think. I don't know. I don't know where he got that.

05:11 schestowitz[TR]; off-topci nonsense

05:11 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to tech

05:11 DaemonFC; I wonder what Uncle Bill will do to them next time.

05:12 DaemonFC; First it was "AIDSVAX" in Thailand (male prostitutes).

05:12 DaemonFC; Then when the vaccine didn't work very well, they just dumped them all and didn't give them any follow-up.

05:12 DaemonFC; Failed experiment. Cut losses. Pull up the tent!

05:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^

05:13 DaemonFC; This is how Creepy Uncle Bill does business.

05:14 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDSVAX

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDSVAX

05:14 TR Bot; AIDSVAX - Wikipedia

05:14 DaemonFC; 31.4% efficacy

05:14 DaemonFC; Probably better than the COVID "vaccines".

05:14 DaemonFC; Nobody really wants an AIDS vaccine.

05:14 DaemonFC; Why wipe it out when you can rob people forever?

05:15 TR News; Social control media is not dead. But is is dying.

05:15 DaemonFC; Dying 4-5 years later if they stop taking your pills is such a motivator to figure out where the $4,000 a month pills will come from.

05:15 DaemonFC; Wouldn't you agree schestowitz[TR]?

05:16 DaemonFC; There will never be an AIDS vaccine because the pills are such a money grab./

05:16 TR News; IRC is keeping steady in terms of usage for a number of years already https://netsplit.de/

↺ https://netsplit.de/

05:16 TR Bot; NO TITLE

05:16 DaemonFC; It's so obvious.

05:16 DaemonFC; Peter Staley is "activist" turned pharmaceutical company advertiser.

05:17 DaemonFC; He amuses himself by having people write absolutely lurid "articles" on poz dot com.

05:17 schestowitz[TR]; wow, phoronix really cannot find stories

05:17 DaemonFC; But most of it is paid spam for new drugs.

05:17 ender2070_16bit; i love irc

05:17 schestowitz[TR]; covering some random mailing lists posts and commits

05:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yeah, nobody needed Phoronix 20 years ago.

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; there is almost no source of kernel news anymore

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; kernelTrap was OK

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; died ages ago

05:18 DaemonFC; If there was a new program released, they just gave you the elevator pitch in the release notes.

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; covering kernel new is hard anda lot of work

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; *news

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; you are able to get paid a lot by just writing a kernel driveer

05:18 schestowitz[TR]; for any company

05:19 schestowitz[TR]; then cover the development of linux

05:19 schestowitz[TR]; 'linux' foundation killed linux.com

05:19 schestowitz[TR]; test http://archive.org/

↺ http://archive.org/

05:19 TR Bot; connect to archive.org:80; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ http://archive.org/ )

↺ http://archive.org/

05:20 schestowitz[TR]; not just me ten

05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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05:20 schestowitz[TR]; offline?

05:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/web.archive.org?proto=https

↺ https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/web.archive.org?proto=https

05:20 TR Bot; Web.archive.org down? Current problems and status.

05:21 DaemonFC; Well, for most people, Linux (the kernel) didn't change much for a few years at a time until 2.6 came out.

05:21 DaemonFC; Then it changed quite a lot, quite often.

05:21 schestowitz[TR]; "" After freenode's network type was changed to "historical" several months ago, I noticed today, that the crawler can connect freenode again. Therefore freenode's network type was changed back to "competitor" again. Welcome back!

05:21 schestowitz[TR]; https://netsplit.de/news.php

↺ https://netsplit.de/news.php

05:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE

05:22 ender2070_16bit; seems to be down for me too

05:27 ender2070_16bit; I'm watching Escape from New York

05:39 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-08-20-adding-aggregators.gmi

↺ https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-08-20-adding-aggregators.gmi

05:39 TR Bot; Gemini Portal

05:40 *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving)

05:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Is there some way to easily port the NewsWaffle to the Web?

05:41 DaemonFC; I think more people would end up using it that way.

05:41 DaemonFC; Web browsers tend to have better font rendering than Gemini clients.

05:42 DaemonFC; Stripping away the crap and converting it back from GemText to HTML seems to remove all the bloat and nonsense just fine.

05:42 DaemonFC; But it would be more efficient to just make the NewsWaffle a Web resource for Web users.

05:43 DaemonFC; I never was a big fan of Style Sheets.

05:43 DaemonFC; They're not as big of a problem as JavaScript, but they are a nuisance.

05:43 DaemonFC; Ideally, you'd just have the text and some "optimized" JPEGs if those are important, but have the user click on them if they want to download and see that one.

05:44 DaemonFC; By optimized, I mean stripping the EXIF tags and optimizing the Huffman Coding. Which you can do without further decay to any existing JPEG.

05:44 DaemonFC; And most sites do that, ironically, to lower bandwidth costs, even as they are quite bloated otherwise.

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; you don'ty need newswaffle for the web

05:45 DaemonFC; Worrying about reducing JPEG size by 7% is a little odd when you're mostly loading stock images, huge style sheets, and several MB of JavaScript to display a news article.

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; you can disable css and js usually

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; or use a browser that removes cruft

05:45 DaemonFC; I use the NewsWaffle on the Web via the mozz.us proxy.

05:45 schestowitz[TR]; newswafle handles images well

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; ifd you use a reader with built-in image renderer

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, we're looking beyond the web already

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; so does tuxmachines

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; the counter says 10k requests over gemini

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; but most are just uptime checkss (monitoring)

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday we had to kick nginx

05:46 schestowitz[TR]; the gemproxy was failing

05:47 schestowitz[TR]; did not investigate the cause,,m just restarted the daemon

05:49 psydruid; I mostly read techrights over gemini, because it's the fastest and most uncluttered way to do so

05:49 TR News; (NEW): Test of modules https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Test_of_modules.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Test_of_modules.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Test_of_modules.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Test_of_modules.gmi

05:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Test of modules

05:49 psydruid; https://wccftech.com/stagnant-pc-hardware-inventories-may-cause-retailers-manufacturers-to-lower-prices-offer-huge-discounts/

↺ https://wccftech.com/stagnant-pc-hardware-inventories-may-cause-retailers-manufacturers-to-lower-prices-offer-huge-discounts/

05:49 TR Bot; Stagnant PC Hardware Inventories May Cause Retailers & Manufacturers To Lower Prices & Offer Huge Discounts

05:50 psydruid; playing into what Helen ah said a few hours ago

05:50 psydruid; I don't think Microsoft is getting away with it this time around

05:50 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft= 20,000 layoffs

05:50 schestowitz[TR]; that will be good form popcorn sales

05:51 psydruid; things have changed and used hardware from the past 10 years is still good enough for running most software

05:51 psydruid; yes

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; micerosoft RELIES

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; on preinstalles

05:51 loner; minor correction: _all_ software

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; NOBODFY INSTALLS Windows

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; almost nobody

05:51 schestowitz[TR]; pepople buy PCs

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft works behind cloed doors to mirror Windows across newly-made complete PCs

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; fewer sales = fewer windows licence

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; nbo vista 10 user goes to a store online to "buy" Vista 11

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; and in physical stores I doubt they sell it

05:52 schestowitz[TR]; it would be too many DVDs

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; so they are obsolete

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; with gnu/linux you get a base image

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; usb

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; cd

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; sd

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; and then install what you need over the network

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; once it bootstraps live or on spinning rust or ssd

05:53 schestowitz[TR]; you can outwit them by killing off the OEMs

05:54 schestowitz[TR]; and then people who don't get p;hones but a RealComputer(R) get more choice

05:55 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> did not investigate the cause,,m just restarted the daemon

05:55 DaemonFC; What is this? Wireplumber?

05:55 DaemonFC; :)

05:57 psydruid; Wintel people also make fun of 50-100 SBCs as being not powerful enough to run "modern" software, but the joke is on them

05:57 loner; i could live with a $5 raspi zero 1.3

05:58 psydruid; and I think it's actually them trying to cope with the fact that they have to spend a lot more money to get the same performance out of their Wintel computer

05:58 DaemonFC; Wireplumber is a disaster.

05:58 schestowitz[TR]; techrights-news> With energy prices soaring do you want this liability? https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-gpu-flex-series

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-gpu-flex-series

05:58 TR Bot; Announces Data Center GPU Flex Series - Phoronix

05:59 DaemonFC; I thought there was something wrong with GNOME Web playing a video and causing Wireplumber to spin the CPU.

05:59 DaemonFC; But Firefox does it sometimes as well,.

05:59 psydruid; so anything that is much cheaper and runs another less bloated operating system must be mocked and ridiculed as being a toy

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; energy will get a lot more expensive soon

05:59 psydruid; it's all just so transparent

05:59 schestowitz[TR]; due to alleged scarcities


6 AM, August 25

06:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 112.53

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; the diff between 5 watt processor and 20 watt processor is night and day

06:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Illinois is actually doing okay on that.

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; screens are another matter

06:00 DaemonFC; Good time to be on electric for everything.

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; some electric power is made with gas

06:00 schestowitz[TR]; they use gas in the processes of spinning turbines

06:00 DaemonFC; Illinois doesn't generate much power with gas.

06:01 schestowitz[TR]; we use gas to heat up water

06:01 schestowitz[TR]; many boilers here are gas-based

06:01 schestowitz[TR]; electric showers are common too

06:01 DaemonFC; Yeah, I think the landlord uses gas in the water heater.

06:01 ender2070_16bit; I have a 2013 laptop that runs gnome perfectly fine. Faster than Windows.

06:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_Test_of_ReadOn.shtml

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_Test_of_ReadOn.shtml

06:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines A Test of ReadOn()

06:02 psydruid; what is also an issue for them is that today's 20 processor is going to be tomorrow's 1-5 processor

06:02 DaemonFC; I'm sure he's pissed. The best thing to do would be to invest in an electric model.

06:02 ender2070_16bit; I have a raspi zero w, I'd use BSD on it but BSD doesn't have the wifi driver :(

06:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Better get yourself a sleeping bag.

06:02 DaemonFC; It's gonna be cold in Bogusland this winter.

06:02 psydruid; I don't have any raspi

06:03 ender2070_16bit; I checked OpenBSD, NetBSD and FreeBSD

06:03 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: There are other methods

06:03 ender2070_16bit; they don't have drivers for any raspi

06:03 schestowitz[TR]; like, put allt he computers in one room

06:03 schestowitz[TR]; then seal

06:03 psydruid; and probably never will have any

06:03 schestowitz[TR]; double glazing and door

06:03 schestowitz[TR]; and that alone, togetehr with body heat, helps avoid home heaters

06:03 DaemonFC; If they're Intel that should work.

06:03 DaemonFC; :)

06:03 psydruid; because these things aren't actually open hackable devices

06:03 schestowitz[TR]; you just reuse natural combustion and electic heat waste

06:04 schestowitz[TR]; our friends, a couple, may more than twice what we pay for energy

06:04 starstreak; https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/

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06:04 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/ )

↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/risc-v-based-visionfive-2-launched-on-kickstarter/

06:04 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't even work from home

06:04 schestowitz[TR]; so go figure

06:05 schestowitz[TR]; not even counting the potrol bills for the car

06:05 schestowitz[TR]; *petrol

06:05 psydruid; I did spend a few months working with a raspi 1, but I didn't really see how it would be better than the more powerful orange pi I already had

06:05 schestowitz[TR]; you can now end up paying 400 pounds a month for "energy"

06:05 psydruid; I know about VisionFive v2

06:05 schestowitz[TR]; or 200 pounds perr person per month

06:05 schestowitz[TR]; food also went up by a lot

06:05 ender2070_16bit; it seems promising

06:05 DaemonFC; http://68k.news/

↺ http://68k.news/

06:05 schestowitz[TR]; unless you find discounts

06:05 TR Bot; Headlines From the Future

06:05 DaemonFC; This works.

06:06 ender2070_16bit; ooooo 68k.news :D

06:06 ender2070_16bit; i love it

06:06 psydruid; and this is just the first board that is going to be more widely usable

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06:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Privacy, Massive Wiki, Manjaro, and Linux Mint"

06:07 psydruid; StarFive is working on a more powerful SoC and board to be launched later next year

06:07 loner; i fear such RISC-V offerings will require a most recent kernel version

06:07 loner; and this comes with alot of other trouble

06:07 ender2070_16bit; lol loner

06:08 psydruid; I hope they will be usable with several operating systems

06:08 loner; ender2070_16bit: lol what?

06:08 ender2070_16bit; you're insane

06:08 loner; irelevant, it's facts

06:09 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r

06:09 starstreak; 5.19.3-arch1-1

06:09 starstreak; I proudly run the latest kernel!

06:09 psydruid; it's logical for new hardware to be supported in newer kernel versions

06:09 loner; i mean, i already got riscv64-tcc toolchain installed ...

06:09 psydruid; whether that should be Linux is another matter

06:10 loner; kernel/version, which libc, etc?

06:10 loner; would be curious

06:10 DaemonFC; https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/ryanjrusak/article264826494.html

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06:10 ender2070_16bit; I would run openbsd or freebsd, but no steam, brave, discord, element

06:11 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ gcc --version

06:11 starstreak; gcc (GCC) 12.2.0

06:11 DaemonFC; "Lets be clear about whats happening here: Working-class people will be taxed to fund a benefit for people whose degrees already give them a leg up in the economy." ""Also punished by this terrible idea are people who did things the right way. You know: suckers."

06:11 psydruid; I'm not really interested in that debate

06:11 DaemonFC; "If you paid back loans or never incurred them because you sought out cheaper alternatives, your reward is to help people who didnt think twice about borrowing tens of thousands of dollars to get an English degree."

06:12 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ ldd --version

06:12 starstreak; ldd (GNU libc) 2.36

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06:12 DaemonFC; "Bidens decision to extend the moratorium on payments is indefensible. His administration tries to persuade us that the economic bruises were all carrying arent real. It redefined recession, celebrated gas-price reductions that still leave us paying at least 50% more than when the president took office and manipulated statistics to suggest inflation is zero. On COVID-19, public health officials just announced what most of us have

06:12 DaemonFC; known for more than a year, that we have to learn to live with it. "

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06:12 psydruid; with the exception of element those are closed source applications/services

06:13 loner; i fear, GNU and LLVM will continue to lock out any real free software alternative with RISC-V again

06:13 ender2070_16bit; freebsd has a linux emulator that can run steam but it doesn't work with proton

06:13 psydruid; I have no such fear

06:14 ender2070_16bit; although technically I could use firefox, load element web and discord web

06:14 ender2070_16bit; i don't really play too many games on linux, my xbox can do that instead

06:14 psydruid; linux emulator that works only on x86

06:14 DaemonFC; Well, you can just load Wine and run games that way, right?

06:15 ender2070_16bit; oh not freebsd64?

06:15 DaemonFC; "Come to think of it, though, wed be much better off if we gave young people money to buy a truck and plumbing or lawn equipment than to spend three hours a week learning Jane Austen."

06:15 DaemonFC; :)

06:15 psydruid; I mean freebsd i386 and x86_64, but not aarch64 or riscv64

06:15 ender2070_16bit; i was surprised to see vscode working on freebsd

06:16 psydruid; what linux software would you like to run on the latter?

06:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You said they basically showed Mr. GULAG to the door in Linux development, yes?

06:16 ender2070_16bit; i probably wouldn't bother with steam on riscv64

06:16 loner; this will be the cornerstone, of proof, with RISC-V, if the tcc-toolchain (riscv64-tcc) can fully digest any libc/kernel

06:16 ender2070_16bit; my xbox can handle the gaming

06:17 loner; otherwise, if RISC-V and related software continue to lock out any alternative toolchain, in practice, almost nothing relevant changed then

06:17 psydruid; so as DaemonFC is saying, it may be easier to run games using Wine on FreeBSD x86_64

06:18 ender2070_16bit; i've put daemonfc on ignore due to transphobia

06:18 psydruid; I haven't tried so far, as I don't have any FreeBSD install

06:19 ender2070_16bit; I was talking about freebsd on my current x86_64 laptop

06:19 psydruid; an ISA doesn't lock out software, people/companies and developers in particular do

06:20 loner; psydruid: disagree

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06:20 psydruid; you are free to disagree

06:20 loner; it is both, vendor-specific/ISA assembly extensions, and GNU gas extensions, which very effictively lock-out any alternative toolchain such as tcc

06:20 loner; i haven't got a libc anymore due to this

06:20 psydruid; that's software

06:20 ender2070_16bit; fuck tcc

06:21 psydruid; if the software that you want isn't out there write your own

06:21 DaemonFC; <ender2070_16bit> i've put daemonfc on ignore due to transphobia

06:21 ender2070_16bit; if the hardware that you want isn't out there, build your own

06:21 loner; psydruid: just as said, riscv64-tcc is available already, looking forward to see any kernel/libc pass with it, including assembler

06:22 DaemonFC; This is ridiculous.

06:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is spewing hatred against an Asian man, openly.

06:22 loner; psydruid: i am not the vendor of RISC-V

06:22 DaemonFC; Just to stir the shit.

06:22 ender2070_16bit; RISC-V is open source

06:22 ender2070_16bit; build your own computer

06:23 psydruid; exactly

06:23 psydruid; and build your own software

06:23 ender2070_16bit; +1

06:23 loner; it is almost impossible to defend against the anti-competitive practices of the industry

06:24 loner; even if, it is simply not desireable to re-implement particular crap with a sane toolchain

06:24 ender2070_16bit; i thought it was the united nations

06:24 loner; they're involved too

06:24 loner; yes

06:24 loner; criminal, corrupt cartell

06:25 ender2070_16bit; IBM/Wintel/Pentagon/GNU/FSF/UN conspiracy right

06:25 loner; but you know, GNU/FSF etc., that's all "non-profit" "NGO"

06:26 ender2070_16bit; I guess technically I could run FreeBSD on my x86_64 laptop, use firefox instead of brave, and run element and discord in browser

06:27 psydruid; the RISC-V/ARM/POWER/SPARC/MIPS cartel are co-conspirators

06:27 DaemonFC; Ted Tso is both smarter than Garrett and has made actual contributions to Linux.

06:27 DaemonFC; So good enough reasons to target him.

06:27 psydruid; I had FreeBSD installed on a few of my laptops

06:27 ender2070_16bit; psydruid - how did you like it?

06:28 psydruid; on one of them the hard drive died, so I'll need to get an SSD to get it up and running again

06:28 DaemonFC; No user actually wants Secure Boot once they find out what it does. Mostly making it harder to boot their computer (or impossible thanks to ridiculous bugs). And then they go to try to add an unsigned module and that won't load.

06:28 DaemonFC; It's more bullshit.

06:28 DaemonFC; It's another reason to abandon the PC entirely soon.

06:29 DaemonFC; Eventually, they won't just turn it on by default, you won't have a choice.

06:29 psydruid; ender2070_16bit: it worked fine for me and it doesn't have systemd, so that's an advantage

06:29 psydruid; I didn't try to get any Linux software running, though

06:30 loner; the last relevant attempt with BSD was OpenBSD evaluating PCC compiler

06:31 psydruid; PCC aarch64 produced crashing binaries for me

06:31 psydruid; I don't know if anyone has fixed that yet

06:31 ender2070_16bit; I got a FreeBSD Virtual Machine running with Mate Desktop. It's using about 384MB

06:32 psydruid; it won't be much leaner than a modern GNU/Linux desktop, but that's because the applications are so bloated these days

06:33 loner; for fun, i could try to dump musl-libc risc-v ASM into riscv64-tcc and see how that goes...

06:33 ender2070_16bit; thats true

06:33 ender2070_16bit; oh I also use keybase

06:33 psydruid; it's as if no one knows how to write good software anymore

06:33 ender2070_16bit; there doesn't seem to be a keybase for freebsd

06:33 DaemonFC; https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/garrett-slams-tso-as-rape-apologist.html

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06:33 TR Bot; - Garrett slams Ts'o as 'rape apologist'

06:33 DaemonFC; :/

06:34 psydruid; again?

06:34 DaemonFC; "Garrett, who styles himself as a defender of women's rights."

06:34 ender2070_16bit; yeah applications are really bloated these days. discord uses about 400MB of ram

06:34 DaemonFC; 100.5% of all women, whether they want it or not.

06:34 DaemonFC; ;)

06:34 ender2070_16bit; meanwhile hexchat sits at about 50MB

06:35 ender2070_16bit; I could use discord in pidgin and that sits at about 50MB too

06:35 loner; well, catgirl irc sits at 5Megs RAM

06:35 *DaemonFC starts using different pronouns so that Matthew Garrett will come to her assistance

06:35 DaemonFC; Everyone knows women can't take care of themselves without Garrett.

06:35 ender2070_16bit; loner - i want a GUI irc client

06:36 psydruid; is he like a hitman who gets hired by LF-connected people to discredit long-term contributors to free software?

06:36 DaemonFC; He thinks doing it (for free) will get more favor from his bosses at Microshit.

06:36 psydruid; oh, that was 10 years ago

06:36 DaemonFC; And that they'll slip him more money through a proxy company.

06:37 psydruid; what will he do when Microshit goes under?

06:37 ender2070_16bit; ok so i go into facebook and use the activity log to delete all my posts and reacts, and facebook asks for my password to confirm and sends me a harassing email

06:37 ender2070_16bit; lol

06:38 psydruid; flushed down the toilet

06:38 psydruid; what is on facebook stays on facebook

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06:43 ender2070_16bit; yeah im sure they keep a copy of everything you delete

06:44 ender2070_16bit; i hate facebook but it has such good memes

06:45 psydruid; facebook is the biggest meme

06:45 ender2070_16bit; just in case they don't tho

06:45 ender2070_16bit; potential employers like to look at peoples private facebook posts

06:46 ender2070_16bit; facebook sells access

06:47 psydruid; that's why it's better not to have a facebook account

06:47 ender2070_16bit; i was at one job interview, they asked about something on my facebook, later i checked and it turns out the post was marked private

06:47 ender2070_16bit; i use facebook with a fake name now

06:48 ender2070_16bit; i want to keep in touch with a few people who aren't on other networks

06:52 DaemonFC; Fakebook will decide what "misleading" is.

06:52 DaemonFC; Thank you very much!

06:57 DaemonFC; The whole idea of "rape culture" is something out of a reprobate mind that just hates masculinity and wants to attack men using any nasty thing it can.

06:57 DaemonFC; So it doesn't surprise me that Garrett perpetuates the myth.

06:57 DaemonFC; That's all it is, is a myth.

06:59 DaemonFC; Feminists are a really nasty piece of work, but it's so much worse when it's an alleged man walking around using bullshit phrases like "toxic masculinity".

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7 AM, August 25

07:00 DaemonFC; Their ultimate goal is to paint even identifying as a man as a disease and as a mental illness.

07:04 DaemonFC; From what I can tell, Ted Tso had a one liner joking about people getting really drunk and having sex.

07:05 DaemonFC; And the joke is funny when you consider it in a modern sense because of all of these idiot Democrats passing "consent" laws like the ones in California or Illinois.

07:05 DaemonFC; California requires people to affirmatively consent. "Right, hold up, I have the legal contract right here!"

07:06 DaemonFC; Illinois says if a person is drunk they can't consent. That's new. That passed this year I think. Anyway, that's where Ted Tso's joke gets really funny.

07:06 DaemonFC; Because if both of you are drunk, you just raped each other.

07:07 DaemonFC; I mean, what we used to just call life where you woke up and you knew you'd both been drinking and maybe one of you think "AHHH!!!" because the other one was below your standards and you just go your separate ways is now a federal case, right? Big stinking federal case.

07:09 DaemonFC; I went drinking the night of my 21st birthday. Woke up next to someone. Okay, it's life. You start drinking, you make lousy decisions. Trying to pin your lousy decisions on other people is a really scummy thing to do.

07:10 DaemonFC; And then there's the "I had sex but now I'm mad and I'll go get him in trouble!" "rape".

07:10 DaemonFC; Where it wasn't rape, but now going to the cops is revenge.

07:10 loner; DaemonFC: defamation is a legal offense too

07:11 DaemonFC; Ted Tso should have sued.

07:13 loner; depends, in germany, he could sue for compensation of damages due to harmed reputation in case of defamation

07:13 DaemonFC; I probably would have if someone went to various publications and tried to paint me as a rapist in order to professionally destroy me for his own stolen gain.

07:14 DaemonFC; It's very unfortunate that Ted Tso didn't do that.

07:14 DaemonFC; He could have financially ruined GULAG for that.

07:14 DaemonFC; And then we wouldn't have had to endure all of these years of him.

07:17 DaemonFC; The American Psychological Association has warned that "traditional masculinity ideology" is associated with negative effects on mental and physical health

07:17 DaemonFC; Yeah, the APA also said homosexuality was a mental illness.

07:17 DaemonFC; And now they say being trans is a mental illness.

07:18 DaemonFC; Everything's a mental illness!

07:19 DaemonFC; The APA is an oppressive organization.

07:19 DaemonFC; In any decade.

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07:20 DaemonFC; "Men who adhere to traditionally masculine cultural norms, such as risk-taking, violence, dominance, the primacy of work, need for emotional control, desire to win, and pursuit of social status, tend to be more likely to experience psychological problems such as depression, stress, body image problems, substance use, and poor social functioning."

07:20 DaemonFC; Just be a loser and a wimp. -The APA

07:21 DaemonFC; They tossed a few negatives in there just to scare the hell out of everyone.

07:21 DaemonFC; Guilt by association!

07:21 DaemonFC; Of course, violence is fine. We don't really mind violence do we?

07:21 DaemonFC; Why are we spending half our budget always being at war with people if we mind violence so much?

07:21 DaemonFC; When you vote, you're using violence.

07:22 DaemonFC; You're using state violence to control your neighbor.

07:22 loner; "cultural norms", some norms aren't cultural, they're natural, evolved over millions of years

07:22 DaemonFC; When mjg59_ sends Nancy Pelosi to the House to steal my paycheck and give it to someone else, he's using violence against me.

07:22 loner; *evolved in

07:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, you know, you go back thousands of years and rape was how most people got pregnant.

07:23 DaemonFC; There weren't any laws.

07:23 loner; i didn't live thousands of years ago, and i doubt it was a cultural norm at that time

07:23 DaemonFC; People were operating on a different level then.

07:24 DaemonFC; It was pretty common in many places.

07:24 DaemonFC; In some cultures, pedophilia was normalized, in that society. Greece did that.

07:24 DaemonFC; That was a cultural norm in Greece at a certain time.

07:24 DaemonFC; So, this respect for other cultures thing? Bullshit. It's more bullshit.

07:25 DaemonFC; The reason that American states have to raise marriage laws to 18 all of a sudden, is that Muslim perverts are moving here and raping children by "marrying" them.

07:25 DaemonFC; It wasn't a problem until now so the states didn't have to act on it really.

07:26 DaemonFC; They had all these old marriage laws on the books from when people died of old age at 40-45 and they started having kids at 13.

07:26 DaemonFC; Time to go deal with that. We have some Muslim perverts in the country now making a big fucking issue out of this.

07:26 DaemonFC; And since we can't throw them back, oh god no, we just have to regulate around the problems the sickos are causing.

07:27 loner; you won't provoke any argument with me over this

07:27 DaemonFC; This is what happens when the uncivilized world comes to live in your country.

07:28 DaemonFC; There was no "child bride" problem really until now. Like, before all these Muslims started happening, there were probably 2-3 marriages to a minor in an entire state over the course of a year.

07:29 DaemonFC; And even then it probably wasn't "gross" it was probably two minors getting their parents to sign the marriage license.

07:29 loner; which country? usa? germany?

07:29 loner; i haven't got any data.

07:29 DaemonFC; The United States.

07:30 DaemonFC; My mom got married when she was 17 and my dad was 22.

07:30 DaemonFC; I mean, that's the whole reason why we were fine with "legal safeguards".

07:31 DaemonFC; Like your parents have to sign this, and then the judge has to talk to both of you.

07:31 DaemonFC; That's how it is in Indiana.

07:32 DaemonFC; You can get married at 16 to an adult of any age in Indiana, but you can't be an adjudicated delinquent, you have to be doing well in school, your parents have to sign it, the judge has to approve the thing.

07:32 DaemonFC; There's a lot of safeguards.

07:32 DaemonFC; But then you had these states like New Jersey.

07:33 DaemonFC; They recently changed it, but basically the system was so broken that parents would force 12 year olds into arranged marriages, and there was no judge, and you know....

07:33 DaemonFC; That's just ripe for abuse.

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07:33 DaemonFC; It gets around the rape laws. So the people who brought "rape culture" to the US are the Muslims. "Child rape culture"

07:33 DaemonFC; Let's see if Matt will touch that one.

07:33 loner; the Indiana legislation is reasonable, and similar to germany's

07:34 loner; and New Jersey, i question this, whatever legislation and safeguards existed, such must be _enforced_ somehow

07:34 loner; laws without compliance are, useless

07:34 DaemonFC; They had to wait until Chris Christie was out of office to change THAT law.

07:34 DaemonFC; He didn't want to "offend religious beliefs".

07:34 loner; could it be, New Jersey could have introduced any type of reasonable legislation and safeguards, but couldn't enforce compliance?

07:35 DaemonFC; They could enforce compliance.

07:35 DaemonFC; If you're not married and it's not on file with the state and you have sex with someone below the age of consent who is not your spouse, it is rape.

07:35 DaemonFC; That's the enforcement!

07:36 DaemonFC; States with higher age of consent laws that allow marriage under some circumstances to someone younger make exceptions for the statutory rape law.

07:36 DaemonFC; So perverts like to exploit that to prey on children and have the state be unable to stop them.

07:37 DaemonFC; Because when it's your spouse, it's not illegal.

07:38 DaemonFC; I think states should bring back felony adultery laws.

07:38 DaemonFC; There's a correct way to end a marriage and have sex outside of it.

07:38 DaemonFC; Go to the court and end the marriage.

07:38 loner; child abuse is criminal, regardless of what laws

07:38 DaemonFC; That's the thing though.

07:39 DaemonFC; A lot of pedophiles will marry their victim if they can.

07:39 DaemonFC; In some states, like Mississippi, it shuts down ACTIVE prosecutions for previous offenses!

07:39 loner; "pedophilia" is an euphemism

07:39 loner; in this context

07:40 DaemonFC; There's something we used to have in this country.....something that's gone missing.....

07:40 DaemonFC; Standards.

07:40 DaemonFC; :)

07:45 DaemonFC; Ariadne, Arch Linux patched DT_HASH back into glibc.

07:45 DaemonFC; LOL

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07:54 ender2070_16bit; yay!

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08:58 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint Release Cycle: What You Need to Know https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_Mint_Release_Cycle_What_You_Need_to_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_Mint_Release_Cycle_What_You_Need_to_Know.gmi

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08:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint Release Cycle: What You Need to Know

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08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 122.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.26


9 AM, August 25

09:04 TR News; (NEW): Privacy and Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Privacy_and_Security_Leftovers.gmi

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09:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Privacy and Security Leftovers

09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

09:23 TR News; (NEW): The History and Evolution of Fedora Linux Distribution https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_History_and_Evolution_of_Fedora_Linux_Distribution.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_History_and_Evolution_of_Fedora_Linux_Distribution.gmi

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09:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines The History and Evolution of Fedora Linux Distribution

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09:33 TR News; (NEW): Liso App Is An Open-source Decentralized Private Data Vault https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Liso_App_Is_An_Open_source_Decentralized_Private_Data_Vault.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Liso_App_Is_An_Open_source_Decentralized_Private_Data_Vault.gmi

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09:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Liso App Is An Open-source Decentralized Private Data Vault

09:34 TR News; (NEW): Python tops programming love list but for jobs, learn SQL https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Python_tops_programming_love_list_but_for_jobs_learn_SQL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Python_tops_programming_love_list_but_for_jobs_learn_SQL.gmi

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09:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Python tops programming love list but for jobs, learn SQL

09:34 TR News; Raspberry Pi Monitor Not Working? Try These Fixes - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/raspberry-pi-monitor-not-working-fixes/ Source: MakeTech Easier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/raspberry-pi-monitor-not-working-fixes/

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09:34 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Monitor Not Working? Try These Fixes - Make Tech Easier

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09:35 TR News; BSD Now 469: Ctrl-C Reset https://www.bsdnow.tv/469 Source: The BSD Now Podcast "FreeBSD Q2 2022 Status Report, FreeBSD in Science, fastest yes(1) in the west, Why Programmers Cant "Reset" Programs With Ctrl-C, Run Slack in FreeBSDs Linuxulator, and more."

↺ https://www.bsdnow.tv/469

09:35 TR Bot; BSD Now 469: Ctrl-C Reset

09:37 TR News; So deaths this summer are basically treble what they were two summers ago (the breakout). Is that really much progress? https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/25/covid-summers/

09:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive Tale of Three Summers of COVID-19 in the UK, as Told by Yesterdays Official Numbers

09:37 TR News; Britney has fired up Windows 3.11 to show were compatible with it, both on the IRC side and the Web side http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/

http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/techrights-backward-compatible/

09:37 TR Bot; Techrights Compatible With Computers From 30+ Years Ago | Techrights

09:44 TR News; 16 Open-source Starters and Boilerplate for Building Your SaaS Project https://medevel.com/16-os-saas/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/16-os-saas/

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09:44 TR Bot; 16 Open-source Starters and Boilerplate for Building Your SaaS Project

09:45 TR News; ICBM: "With technology evolving faster than ever, here are seven things you can implement today to improve your leadership game and prepare your teams for the future of work." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-leadership-prepare-future-work

↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-leadership-prepare-future-work

09:45 TR Bot; 7 ways CIOs can prepare today for the future of work | The Enterprisers Project

09:46 TR News; Explore [buzzword] with Red Hat at ArgoCon 2022 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/explore-gitops-red-hat-argocon-2022 Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/explore-gitops-red-hat-argocon-2022

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09:46 TR Bot; Explore GitOps with Red Hat at ArgoCon 2022 | Red Hat Developer

09:46 TR News; "The just-in-time (JIT) compiler in OpenJDK improves Java performance through a number of optimizations, particularly in loops." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/optimize-loops-long-variables-java

↺ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/25/optimize-loops-long-variables-java

09:46 TR Bot; Optimize loops with long variables in Java | Red Hat Developer

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09:52 TR News; x86 is doomed. Raspi copycat for 5 times the price, takes up a LOT more energy. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/25/up-squared-2-is-a-compact-elkhart-lake-sbc-with-celeron-n6210-or-pentium-j6426-processor/

↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/25/up-squared-2-is-a-compact-elkhart-lake-sbc-with-celeron-n6210-or-pentium-j6426-processor/

09:52 TR Bot; UP Squared 2 is a compact Elkhart Lake SBC with Celeron N6210 or Pentium J6426 processor - CNX Software

09:53 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: ^


10 AM, August 25

10:05 psydruid; yeah, lol

10:07 psydruid; as if x86 "compatibility" is worth paying 2-5 times the price

10:07 XRevan86; schestowitz: "it''s Vista 11; the service pack of Vista 10; to make it seem like something new gets made" <- Like I previously mentioned, to bump the requirements, which Microsoft is going to do again. Windows 12 is going to be even more elitist.

10:08 psydruid; everything from Intel Alder Lake and AMD Zen 3?

10:08 psydruid; in Redmond they're suffering from headless chicken syndrome

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; price of purcahse

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; the "TCO" is worse

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; like paying extra 20 dollars per year

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; for 5-10 years

10:10 schestowitz[TR]; just for electricity

10:10 TR News; (NEW): StarFive VisionFive 2 quad-core RISC-V SBC launched for $46 and up (Crowdfunding) (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/StarFive_VisionFive_2_quad_core_RISC_V_SBC_launched_for_46_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/StarFive_VisionFive_2_quad_core_RISC_V_SBC_launched_for_46_and_.gmi

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10:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines StarFive VisionFive 2 quad-core RISC-V SBC launched for $46 and up (Crowdfunding) (UPDATED)

10:11 TR News; (NEW): Using eBPF for network observability in the cloud https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Using_eBPF_for_network_observability_in_the_cloud.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Using_eBPF_for_network_observability_in_the_cloud.gmi

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10:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Using eBPF for network observability in the cloud

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10:12 psydruid; Celeron N6210 isn't power-hungry, but it's also barely faster than a 20 ARM chip

10:13 psydruid; you won't want to run Vista 10/11 on it

10:16 techuser; souseksi: is your nickname related to Souseiseki from Rozen Maiden?

10:17 souseksi; techuser: yes, it is.

10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

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10:27 TR News; "There are old mushroom eaters, and there are bold mushroom eaters. But there are no old, bold mushroom eaters." gemini://tilde.pink/~telepta/gems/mushroom-eaters.gmi

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10:27 TR News; Why You Should Hone Your Firecraft gemini://tilde.pink/~telepta/gems/firemaking-level.gmi

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10:28 TR News; "Then generate server.crt and server.key with mkcert. However, what I'm interested in is automatically redirecting to the offline version if I visit the site in my browser. Fortunately, there is a very simple solution for this using the Redirector addon." gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-08-25.gmi

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10:34 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Android_Leftovers.gmi

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10:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers

10:36 TR News; IT [sic] Pro [sic] Today wants you to think that GNU/Linux is just some slave of Microsoft Windows. https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/how-create-ubuntu-virtual-machines-easy-way

↺ https://www.itprotoday.com/compute-engines/how-create-ubuntu-virtual-machines-easy-way

10:36 TR Bot; How To Create an Ubuntu Virtual Machine on Windows 10 | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More

10:36 TR News; Meanwhile the criminals (Microsoft) make it exceedingly hard to dual-boot or just simply boot an OS of your choice http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/

http://techrights.org/2022/07/28/antitrust-dual-booting/

10:36 TR Bot; Antitrust Action Against Microsoft is Well Overdue | Techrights

10:38 TR News; ZDNet had moved ti "infinite scroll" fraud/faux-UI to fake 'traffic' or 'engagement'. Their numbers must be really appalling as they did a rushed job. ZDnet is uglier now than it was in the 90s.

10:40 TR News; kernel/git/akpm/mm.git - akpm's fork of linux.git https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/akpm/mm.git/commit/?h=mm-unstable&id=7b3ef2e6a64440924ecbcc5b6d3f8b7966558c66 Source: Kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/akpm/mm.git/commit/?h=mm-unstable&id=7b3ef2e6a64440924ecbcc5b6d3f8b7966558c66

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10:40 TR Bot; kernel/git/akpm/mm.git - akpm's fork of linux.git

10:42 TR News; Microsoft Azure "embraces" Linux like Being "embraces" Uyghurs

10:45 schestowitz[TR]; Beijing

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10:47 TR News; Open-source storage for beginners with Ceph | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-storage-for-beginners-with-ceph Source: Ubuntu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-storage-for-beginners-with-ceph

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10:47 TR Bot; storage for beginners with Ceph | Ubuntu

10:49 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.1.gmi

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10:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

10:49 MinceR; 25 020933 < schestowitz[TR]> LAPD=LARD

10:49 MinceR; Duke Nukem 3D

10:54 TR News; (NEW): Best Music Player for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Best_Music_Player_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Best_Music_Player_for_Linux.gmi

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10:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Music Player for Linux

10:55 TR News; Kubernetes v1.25: Pod Security Admission Controller in Stable | Kubernetes https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/25/pod-security-admission-stable/ Source: Kubernetes Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/25/pod-security-admission-stable/

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10:55 TR Bot; Kubernetes v1.25: Pod Security Admission Controller in Stable | Kubernetes

10:57 TR News; (NEW): Best text editor for Linux" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.gmi

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10:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best text editor for Linux"

10:58 TR News; (UPDATED): Kubernetes v1.25: Combiner (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kubernetes_v1_25_Combiner.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kubernetes_v1_25_Combiner.gmi

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10:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kubernetes v1.25: Combiner (UPDATED)

10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 130.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.83


11 AM, August 25

11:02 TR News; [PATCH] cr16: remove obsoleted port https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-August/600296.html

↺ https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-August/600296.html

11:02 TR Bot; [PATCH] cr16: remove obsoleted port

11:02 TR News; The Future of KDAB CI - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/the-future-of-kdab-ci/ Source: KDAB | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kdab.com/the-future-of-kdab-ci/

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11:02 TR Bot; Future of KDAB CI - KDAB

11:03 TR News; (NEW): Tails 5.4 is out https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.gmi

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11:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Tails 5.4 is out

11:05 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@r6fx9ce6x78p6.irc) has joined #techrights

11:08 *Helenah climbs into DaemonFC's lap and purrs

11:13 mjg59_; Wouldn't recommend that

11:16 DaemonFC; Why is that, Matt?

11:16 DaemonFC; You know what I say.

11:16 DaemonFC; Stop Asian Hate

11:17 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/married-people-trolling-each-other-29.jpg

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11:18 schestowitz[TR]; ryan and matt are not married to each other yet

11:18 schestowitz[TR]; mandy and sarah michelle gellar are taken

11:18 DaemonFC; Matt won't bmarry LOVECRUFT afaik.

11:19 mjg59_; ?

11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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11:21 DaemonFC; Put a ring on it.

11:22 mjg59_; Still no clue what you're saying here

11:22 TR News; A lot of work for something so small. The pitfall of 3d printing for repairs is the time taken to 'manufacture' custom made part for a single piece https://jmtd.net/log/shoe_cabinet_repair/

↺ https://jmtd.net/log/shoe_cabinet_repair/

11:22 TR Bot; jmtd log IKEA HEMNES Shoe cabinet repair

11:25 DaemonFC; I'm trying to look into what proportion of vulnerabilities in Firefox are related to the JavaScript engine and exactly how bad they tend to be.

11:25 DaemonFC; Mozilla tries to hide their bugs for years after they fix them though.

11:26 DaemonFC; So it's difficult to get much good and recent information.

11:26 DaemonFC; Also, this is just the kind of stuff they tend to find on their own or with fuzz testing. There's absolutely no guarantee that they're finding the worst stuff that nation states are hoarding.

11:27 DaemonFC; At least some of it appears to be found when Firefox encounters some actual JavaScript and crashes and "telemetry" reports on that crash often enough.

11:27 *Helenah simulates hunting and tears up a cardboard box

11:28 *Helenah scratches the sofa to sharpen her claws

11:28 DaemonFC; SHHHHHH!!!! Be vewy vewy quiet.

11:28 DaemonFC; I'm hunting wabbits and Garretts.

11:28 *Helenah looks at DaemonFC then looks at mjg59_

11:28 DaemonFC; I got you now you wascawy wabbit!

11:28 *Helenah climbs into mjg59_'s lap and purrs

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Mozilla tries to hide their bugs for years after they fix them though.

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; "it's not a bug"

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's a FICHER!

11:29 *DaemonFC uses Elmer Fudd's New Liberal Toilet Plunger on mjg59_

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; for gulag.. like DRM (EME)

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; and removing RSS support

11:29 mjg59_; Helenah: I've never met you so that's probably inappropriate

11:29 Helenah; oh

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; and making it harder to block ads

11:29 schestowitz[TR]; etc etc

11:29 MinceR;

11:29 DaemonFC; mjg59_, You're missing out.

11:29 DaemonFC; ;)

11:30 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: cheeto powder?

11:30 MinceR; no

11:30 MinceR; popcorn

11:30 schestowitz[TR]; with cheeto powder

11:30 MinceR; no

11:30 DaemonFC; I think schestowitz[TR] means those kernel seasons things.

11:30 mjg59_; Helenah: Not a concern, just an expression of boundaries

11:30 DaemonFC; I'm fond of the ranch myself.

11:32 DaemonFC; Dear diary.....TIL mjg59_ has boundaries and that he's no longer primarily driven by Fear Of Missing Out, or FOMO. Could it be that he's becoming human? What are the implications for this? Clearly must study subject further and report, for science!

11:32 TR News; "This is quick guide howto install Kernel 6.0-rc2 on Fedora 36 with or without latest NVIDIA 515.65.01 drivers. If you have NVIDIA 515.65.01 already installed, then you still have to update your drivers with patched version." https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/kernel-60-fedora-36-nvidia/

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11:32 TR Bot; Kernel 6.0-rc2 + Fedora 36 + NVIDIA 515.65.01 If Not True Then False

11:33 schestowitz[TR]; comes to channel of site he wishes to undermine

11:33 schestowitz[TR]; to lecture us on "boundaries"

11:33 schestowitz[TR]; pass the popcorn, MinceR

11:33 *Helenah scratches DaemonFC in the eye for treating mjg59_ like a lab rat

11:34 TR News; Bluetooth + Electrical switchgear | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/bluetooth-electrical-switchgear/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/bluetooth-electrical-switchgear/

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11:34 TR Bot; Bluetooth + Electrical switchgear | Pen Test Partners

11:34 DaemonFC; Relax, I was just going to test shampoo on him so they don't have to do it to the animals.

11:34 *MinceR hands schestowitz[TR] a fresh bag of popcorn

11:34 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: hmm?

11:34 DaemonFC; Just for that, you get Brand X.

11:34 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Could you explain the conflict here?

11:35 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: As in, what precisely is incompatible between me having boundaries about interpersonal interaction and me expressing that I think your behaviour is harmful?

11:35 schestowitz[TR]; you are incappable of understanding

11:36 schestowitz[TR]; you are like Mr. Data

11:36 schestowitz[TR]; from Google Inc.

11:36 schestowitz[TR]; The Data Company

11:36 mjg59_; A company that I no longer work for, as you keep pointing out

11:36 Helenah; Oh I thought Mr Data was from Star Trek, my bad!

11:36 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Cutting-Edge Kernel, The Linux Link Tech Show, and BSD Now https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Videos_and_Shows_Cutting_Edge_Kernel_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Videos_and_Shows_Cutting_Edge_Kernel_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_a.gmi

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11:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Cutting-Edge Kernel, The Linux Link Tech Show, and BSD Now

11:37 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: What's the hypocrisy here?

11:37 DaemonFC; <Helenah> Oh I thought Mr Data was from Star Trek, my bad!

11:37 DaemonFC; If anything, mjg59_ would be like Lore, only far less capable.

11:38 *Helenah sniffs schestowitz[TR]'s bag and discovers the smell of popcorn inside

11:38 *Helenah steals schestowitz[TR]'s popcorn

11:38 DaemonFC; Remember when Lore pretended to be Data and told the Crystalline Entity to come eat everyone else on the Enterprise?

11:40 mjg59_; Helenah: The rough situation is that DaemonFC and schestowitz[TR] both criticise me at length but never actually engage in discussion about that criticism

11:41 mjg59_; Which is not to say that they're wrong for disagreeing with me (I disagree with them a lot) but they'll never actually spend time discussing that disagreement

11:41 mjg59_; DaemonFC will start talking about random unrelated things instead, schestowitz[TR] will just stop responding

11:41 Helenah; Awww

11:42 DaemonFC; It's unbelievable how bad Star Trek is at times.

11:42 Helenah; DaemonFC: Vague.

11:42 DaemonFC; But then again, some liberal pussies in California do it, so.....

11:42 mjg59_; Case in point

11:43 DaemonFC; The woman who killed the Crystalline Entity was portrayed as a villain for destroying something that lived by stripping all life off of entire planets as it went along.

11:43 DaemonFC; She kills this thing and then her career is ruined and they put HER on trial for it.

11:44 mjg59_; Yeah she was protrayed that way because at a point where they were successfully communicating with it in a way that may have deescalated the situation, she killed it

11:44 DaemonFC; After it kills everyone on a federation colony!

11:44 TR News; [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] add support for CDX bus controller - Nipun Gupta https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220817150542.483291-1-nipun.gupta@amd.com/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220817150542.483291-1-nipun.gupta@amd.com/

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11:44 TR Bot; [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] add support for CDX bus controller - Nipun Gupta

11:44 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Yeah she was protrayed that way because at a point where they were successfully communicating with it in a way that may have deescalated the situation, she killed it

11:44 DaemonFC; Thus de-escalating the situation. The thing is dead and won't ever kill again.

11:45 mjg59_; I feel like you've failed to understand the goals of the Federation here

11:45 DaemonFC; When there's a rabid bear out going around mauling people, you don't stop and talk to it. You SHOOT IT.

11:45 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I feel like you've failed to understand the goals of the Federation here

11:45 DaemonFC; I do understand these types of people.

11:45 DaemonFC; You actually run into them sometimes.

11:46 DaemonFC; They talk and they talk and you go around in circles and they never fix anything.

11:46 DaemonFC; Like the people who argue child molesters have rights.

11:46 DaemonFC; The Crystalline Entity had to be killed for the greater good.

11:47 mjg59_; If you watch Star Trek with the social expecations of, well, you, then yeah, you end up with undesirable outcomes

11:47 mjg59_; Beacuse the show is extremely clearly based around a different ethical framework

11:47 DaemonFC; It is idiotic to allow one thing to live as it needs to kill billions of lifeforms to do that.

11:47 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Beacuse the show is extremely clearly based around a different ethical framework

11:47 DaemonFC; One which is clearly incorrect.

11:48 mjg59_; "Let This Be Your Last Battlefield" was incompatible with social mores of the time

11:49 mjg59_; If you want to argue that Star Trek had the wrong moral framework then sure you can do that

11:49 DaemonFC; Actually, things haven't improved much.

11:49 mjg59_; But the episodes exist within that framework, so criticising them for being aligned with it is bizarre

11:49 TR News; (NEW): Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.gmi

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11:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA

11:50 TR News; [PATCH 0/4] Add support for atomic async page-flips - Simon Ser https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220824150834.427572-1-contact@emersion.fr/

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11:50 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/4] Add support for atomic async page-flips - Simon Ser

11:50 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Occasionally I've found myself in agreement with something put forward, but only rarely.

11:50 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Am I like an Android? o.o

11:50 TR News; SmartOS 20220825 is out https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos

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11:50 TR Bot; SmartOS | Joyent

11:51 DaemonFC; Again, when they made contact with the Borg, everyone warned Picard what they were, and in his arrogance (he later admitted as much) he almost got the entire crew killed by trying to negotiate with the Borg instead of fleeing.

11:51 DaemonFC; Or immediately trying to find some way they've overlooked of attacking them and getting them by surprise.

11:51 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: not you

11:52 DaemonFC; Ignoring Q? Okay, yeah.

11:52 mjg59_; That's not really how Q Who goes

11:52 DaemonFC; But he trusted Guinan.

11:52 Helenah; Okies

11:52 DaemonFC; Sloppy writing.

11:53 DaemonFC; It's established that Guinan and Q hate each other.

11:53 DaemonFC; So if they both agree that the Borg are dangerous and impossible to reason with, why ignore that?

11:53 TR News; IBM emeritus Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Economic Potential of the Internet of Things https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/08/the-economic-potential-of-the-internet-of-things.html Source: IBM Old Timer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/08/the-economic-potential-of-the-internet-of-things.html

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11:53 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Economic Potential of the Internet of Things

11:54 DaemonFC; The only reason the Borg delayed their attack at all was because they had never encountered a federation ship before and were busy assessing it.

11:55 Helenah; borg

11:55 Helenah; cyborg

11:55 DaemonFC; They were no doubt running all sorts of scans on it and the crew.

11:55 Helenah; <===[ Cyborg ]

11:55 Helenah; okies

11:56 DaemonFC; Picard managed to blow the time he had while the Borg were amused and collecting points of data.

11:56 DaemonFC; Which doesn't say much for his command abilities.

11:57 DaemonFC; Time and time again, the Federation proves that it's too indecisive and weak to survive.

11:57 MinceR; not to worry, it has plot armor

11:57 DaemonFC; If Star Trek was real, the Romulans and Klingons would have destroyed it.

11:58 DaemonFC; MinceR, Yes, plot armor is the only thing protecting it.

11:59 Helenah; :3

11:59 Helenah; Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

11:59 DaemonFC; There are no governments in the world today that exist peacefully and are unmolested by their neighbors if they have anything of value worth invading for and no military to protect them.

11:59 DaemonFC; There's a reason for that.


noon, August 25

12:00 DaemonFC; Star Trek sees people "evolving" past violence and subjugating each other, but humans never will.

12:00 TR News; (NEW): ODROID-Go Ultra portable gaming console and devkit coming soon with Amlogic S922X SoC https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ODROID_Go_Ultra_portable_gaming_console_and_devkit_coming_soon_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ODROID_Go_Ultra_portable_gaming_console_and_devkit_coming_soon_.gmi

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12:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines ODROID-Go Ultra portable gaming console and devkit coming soon with Amlogic S922X SoC

12:00 DaemonFC; You're either strong enough to defend yourself or someone will kill you for what you have.

12:01 TR News; IBM / Red Hat Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/IBM_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml

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12:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines IBM / Red Hat Leftovers"

12:02 DaemonFC; Showing weakness to strength is not ever going to be a good idea.

12:03 DaemonFC; mjg59_, How do you figure the real world works anyway?

12:03 DaemonFC; Do you think people in Chicago aren't always looking for the weakest person to mug?

12:03 DaemonFC; Why do you think they prefer to go after the elderly?

12:04 DaemonFC; It's like a wolf waiting for an old sick person or a child to wander off.

12:04 DaemonFC; You pounce on the weak and you get an easy meal.

12:04 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> mjg59_, How do you figure the real world works anyway?

12:04 schestowitz[TR]; he fancies himself "CopOps" in this channel

12:05 schestowitz[TR]; here to "protect people"

12:05 schestowitz[TR]; corporations are people, my friend!

12:05 DaemonFC; "That THING lives because children wander off!" -Rick Sanchez to Jerry (Rick & Morty) (as the thing is eating Jerry)

12:06 schestowitz[TR]; COCporations: BE NICE!!!

12:06 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=InFMlXL_Bbo

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12:06 TR Bot; Jerry is used as bait | Rick and Morty S03E05 Full HD - Invidious

12:06 DaemonFC; This. mjg59_ ^

12:07 TR News; (NEW): IBM / Red Hat Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/IBM_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/IBM_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi

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12:07 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_leftovers.gmi

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12:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

12:08 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Tails 5.4 and EasyOS 4.3.5 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/tails-5-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/tails-5-4/

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12:08 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Tails 5.4 and EasyOS 4.3.5 | Techrights

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; corporations use minorities and women (not!) as "human shields"

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; their weapons are pretences and posers

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; who falsely claim to represent the uvulnerable

12:09 schestowitz[TR]; while bagging $200,000 per annum

12:14 Helenah; DaemonFC: QUIT BABBLING BOY!

12:15 schestowitz[TR]; he has been like this as long as I have known him online

12:16 DaemonFC; All of the Captain Hook memes after the alligator swallowed that kid dressed up like Hook at Disney World.

12:16 DaemonFC; I'm telling you, people are mean.

12:16 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG acts like I'm the worst.

12:16 *techuser (~techuser@w4riy9batfvrn.irc) has joined #techrights

12:19 MinceR; 25 130008 < DaemonFC> Star Trek sees people "evolving" past violence and subjugating each other, but humans never will.

12:19 MinceR; humans will just go extinct

12:19 MinceR; probably by their own effort

12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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12:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: there was one called diablod3

12:20 schestowitz[TR]; he was worse

12:20 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, his real name was patrick

12:20 schestowitz[TR]; he was more offnsive to women than you are

12:21 schestowitz[TR]; and didn't use his gayness as excuse for this

12:21 schestowitz[TR]; maybe even did that deliberately

12:22 TR News; Thunderbird Tips: Rearrange The Order Of Your Accounts https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/thunderbird-tips-rearrange-the-order-of-your-accounts/ Source: Thunderbird | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/thunderbird-tips-rearrange-the-order-of-your-accounts/

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12:22 TR Bot; Thunderbird Tips: Rearrange The Order Of Your Accounts

12:22 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: DaemonFC uses his own Homosexuality to justify his misogyny and transphobia? o.o

12:22 TR News; KDE neon 20220825 is ready for download https://neon.kde.org/

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12:22 TR Bot; KDE neon

12:23 Helenah; MinceR: What if humanity doesn't go extinct?

12:23 Helenah; This is all speculation...

12:24 techuser; Helenah: it will, sooner or later

12:24 techuser; the question is when

12:24 DaemonFC; Humans are confined to one planet.

12:24 DaemonFC; In a solar system where only one planet can support human life.

12:24 MinceR; Helenah: then it becomes something quite unlike its current self

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; all animals go extinct

12:25 MinceR; and if current "conservatives" knew that, they'd wish it would just go extinct instead

12:25 schestowitz[TR]; humans go extinct faster

12:25 Helenah; MinceR: Yep but this is the thing, one can't predict if humanity in lets say 500 years time will be a lot better or a lot worse

12:25 DaemonFC; Humans aren't well suited for living on any other planet in this solar system long term and without fresh supplies from Earth arriving occasionally.

12:26 MinceR; anti-science, anti-intellectualism, religious fundamentalism and bigotry are all incompatible with long term survival

12:26 schestowitz[TR]; which execerbates warning and energy drainage

12:26 Helenah; Agreed

12:26 schestowitz[TR]; *warming

12:26 schestowitz[TR]; like firing rockets with supples to another planet

12:26 MinceR; also, humanity has fucked up many things that are greatly lowering the chances of survival

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Finland-Braces-For-Rolling-Blackouts-This-Winter.html

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12:27 TR Bot; Braces For Rolling Blackouts This Winter | OilPrice.com

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/swiss-say-energy-supplies-safe-now-winter-shortages-loom-2022-07-20/

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12:27 TR Bot; brace for rolling four-hour blackouts in any energy crunch | Reuters

12:27 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: You'd be depleting one planet (definitely is lift sustaining) to supply another planet (Most likely won't be lib sustaining)

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1651234/blackout-britain-star-energy-warning-electricity-risk-return-to-1970s

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12:27 TR Bot; BRITAIN: Stark energy warning as '24/7 electricity' at risk in return to 1970s | UK | News | Express.co.uk

12:27 Helenah; And what consequences will this have on earth?

12:27 schestowitz[TR]; gee, the future is BRIGHT..... SOME of the time ;-)

12:28 MinceR; oh, it is bright

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; then there is fallout

12:28 MinceR; in 5 billion years, the Sun will encompass the orbit of the Earth

12:28 DaemonFC; The sun will expand and destroy....

12:28 MinceR; imagine how bright it will be here then.

12:28 DaemonFC; Yeah, that.

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; humans won't reach that far

12:28 MinceR; indeed

12:28 schestowitz[TR]; they will detonate nukes first

12:28 Helenah; Yeah

12:28 Helenah; but you were talking about the "exinction of humans" and not the "extinction of life on earth"

12:29 MinceR; in about 1 billion years, the Sun will remove the Earth's atmosphere and water

12:29 Helenah; So I didn't realise you guys were gonna go off on a tangent and talk about the lifespan of the sun and what it will do end of life.

12:29 MinceR; the extinction of Earth life is guaranteed unless intelligent beings save it

12:29 MinceR; after humans exterminate themselves, there won't be a lot of time for intelligent life to evolve

12:29 MinceR; and even if it does, easily exploited resources will be much scarcer

12:29 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: or takes Lolita Express to Mars

12:29 techuser; is "intelligent life" possible?

12:30 MinceR; probably

12:30 techuser; humans exist because instincts

12:30 techuser; life has no purpose

12:30 MinceR; intelligence is not mutually exclusive with self-replication

12:30 MinceR; if humans could make Mars livable for themselves, they could also fix Earth

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; Mars is not for humans

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's for tooligarchs

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; they don't want to fix what they depart

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; or hope to depart

12:33 schestowitz[TR]; they need many peasnats here to pack up "supplies"

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; or so the crazy ones hope

12:34 MinceR; they can't fix Mars either

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; the "transplanetary"

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; they can get fried there

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; or freeze to death at night

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; guess what

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; at mars they don't hunour your money

12:34 schestowitz[TR]; *honour

12:35 schestowitz[TR]; planetary miugration as a form of eugenics

12:35 schestowitz[TR]; tenanting based on wealth

12:36 DaemonFC; Mars wouldn't be pleasant even if you could live there.

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; as crazy as that sound

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; this is how they thinkmk

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; to migrate their family there

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; "we are moving to Mars"

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; and then hope to build pedestal for their dead ancestors

12:36 Helenah; MinceR: Yep

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; or something inane like that

12:36 TR News; "Googling revealed multiple solutions that enabled me to accomplish my goals to great degree of customizability." https://blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/nginx-sqlite-log/ | Source: Adriaan Zhang

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12:36 TR Bot; Logging Requests with SQLite and Nginx

12:36 MinceR; "get your ass to Mars!"

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; Earth is "working bees" to them

12:36 schestowitz[TR]; a company on its way down

12:36 Helenah; They'll be able to fix earth because terraforming mars would be an extremely difficult and expensive task.

12:36 TR News; "Since I joined Charm, Ive been working and learning more about SSH" https://carlosbecker.com/posts/ssh-tips-and-tricks/ |

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12:36 TR Bot; SSH tips and tricks | Carlos Becker

12:37 Helenah; And it would take decades, probably more.

12:37 DaemonFC; You can't really terraform Mars though.

12:37 Helenah; DaemonFC: I never said you could.

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; they make greenhouses

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; or uncubators

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; or solonies with bubbles

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; not the whole lot

12:37 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Can Mr DaemonFC actually comprehend?

12:37 MinceR; that would be a fun way to go

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; *colonies

12:37 MinceR; tiny meteorite hits your greenhouse, you suffocate and die

12:37 schestowitz[TR]; but need supply to kickstart it

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; they also talk aboout engineering plant to better suit the climate in Mars etc.

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; if they have a bunker on earth the "plebs" an get to them

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; at sea, too

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; in the air you cannot stay foreveerrr

12:38 schestowitz[TR]; the average "peasant" cannot organise to "get them" on the moon

12:39 schestowitz[TR]; it takes a lot of coordination to make a space mission

12:39 TR News; "Ive been trying to learn Golang recently." https://earthly.dev/blog/pong-part2/ | Source: Earthly

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12:39 TR Bot; Building Pong in Your Terminal: Part Two - Earthly Blog

12:40 TR News; FreeBSD https://xyinn.org/md/freebsd/framework_laptop |

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12:40 TR Bot; FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop |@fearedbliss

12:40 TR News; "One of the computer modules in modern vehicles listens to the radio waves for signals" https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2022/08/solving-my-trucks-tpms-sensor-problem-with-the-help-of-an-rtl-sdr-dongle/ | Source: Doug Brown

↺ https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2022/08/solving-my-trucks-tpms-sensor-problem-with-the-help-of-an-rtl-sdr-dongle/

12:40 TR Bot; Downtown Doug Brown Solving my trucks TPMS sensor problem with the help of an RTL-SDR dongle

12:41 TR News; iophk: this story neglects to mention, perhaps intentionally, that there are official id cards which can be used online and do not require bank access https://yle.fi/news/3-12590858

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12:41 TR Bot; Bank account obstacles creating Finland's "second class citizens" | News | Yle Uutiset

12:42 TR News; Today Our Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/internetrecord:6

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12:42 TR Bot; Today Our Life is a Recording. Which Someone can Play Back

12:42 TR News; ISDS in action? https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/22086-russia-s-rosatom-files-claims-worth-3bn-against-finland-s-fennovoima.html

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12:42 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/22086-russia-s-rosatom-files-claims-worth-3bn-against-finland-s-fennovoima.html )

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12:43 TR News; "... users don't so much delete data as put it into some kind of quantum state where its existence is just kind of uncertain as opposed to destroyed ..." https://risky.biz/RB675 warning, these guys shill azure

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12:43 TR Bot; Risky Business #675 -- The problem with Mudge's whistleblowing complaint - Risky Business

12:43 TR News; old: Everyone seems to forget why GNOME and GNOME 3 and Unity happened https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/85359.html Source: Liam Proven | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/85359.html

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12:43 TR Bot; liam_on_linux | Everyone seems to forget why GNOME and GNOME 3 and Unity happened

12:44 Helenah; You know these like...

12:44 Helenah; mass murderer setups where it would be like two of them, possibly like a husband and wife

12:44 MinceR; apparently Liam hasn't seen RISC OS up close

12:44 Helenah; One would probs like... always put the other one at an advantage doing the murders...

12:45 Helenah; I believe in some cases, the one putting the other at an advantage is a follower is Stockholm syndrome.

12:45 MinceR; or GNOME, or KDE

12:45 MinceR; "without a Start menu"

12:45 Helenah; Anyone read into the venables case? Robert Thompson was following John Venables who was leading the evil act.

12:45 MinceR; they all have a button that brings up launchers for a lot of applications

12:46 MinceR; none of them call it "Start"

12:46 Helenah; Younger child killers of the 20th century

12:46 Helenah; Meaning the killers were children

12:46 Helenah; Robert kept his head down

12:46 Helenah; John Venables still offends to this day

12:47 Helenah; They both killed a toddler at I think 10 years old

12:47 Helenah; And I think one thing to blame for why Venables is the way he is, is environmental, he has a very rough background.

12:48 TR News; "I had the pleasure of speaking to Brodie Robertson recently on the subject of Linux Gaming, Steam Deck and all sorts of things for you" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/check-out-my-appearance-with-brodie-on-tech-over-tea/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:48 TR Bot; out my appearance with Brodie on Tech Over Tea | GamingOnLinux

12:48 Helenah; I'm not justifying his behaviour as right, merely explaining reasonings why he had grown up to be that way.

12:48 Helenah; *reasons

12:48 schestowitz[TR]; women who drown their own babies is tragic too

12:49 schestowitz[TR]; then again, in china some women let them rot

12:49 schestowitz[TR]; and there are those who leave tghem iin skips/bins

12:49 Helenah; If you ever read up on psychology, narcissists, people with ASPD (Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopathy), one reason for these that has been proven is abusive parents.

12:49 schestowitz[TR]; humans are not very caring animalk

12:49 schestowitz[TR]; *animals

12:49 TR News; "Valve has confirmed two tasty bits of info today for those waiting on getting a Steam Deck" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-deck-reservations-continue-to-grow-now-at-its-highest-point/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:49 TR Bot; Deck reservations continue to grow, now at its highest point | GamingOnLinux

12:49 Helenah; Abusive parents can create a sick human being.

12:49 Helenah; Mentally sick

12:49 Helenah; One that will murder, rape, do all sorts of terrible things.

12:49 Helenah; And such people are partly to blame for such behaviours.

12:50 TR News; "Another reasonably good pick here from Humble Bundle with the Career Break Bundle." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/get-the-likes-of-parkitect-and-project-hospital-in-this-latest-game-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:50 TR Bot; the likes of Parkitect and Project Hospital in this latest game bundle | GamingOnLinux

12:50 techuser; parents should be considered to be evil by default

12:50 Helenah; For conditioning a human into bad ways of being.

12:50 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

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12:50 TR Bot; Albert Fish - Wikipedia

12:50 MinceR; s/parents/humans/

12:50 Helenah; There was a case where...

12:50 Helenah; And some parents can't deal with children

12:50 Helenah; so anyway...

12:51 schestowitz[TR]; "Fish's family had a history of mental illness. His uncle had mania, one of his brothers was confined in a state mental hospital, and his sister Annie was diagnosed with a "mental affliction". Three other relatives were diagnosed with mental illnesses, and his mother had "aural and/or visual hallucinations""

12:51 *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving)

12:51 techuser; IRC is better than children!

12:51 Helenah; These two parents killed their daughter when she hit puberty due to her behaviour, they couldn't cope with her puberty

12:51 Helenah; and their evil solution to that was to be rid of her so they killed her.

12:51 Helenah; Fuckin' wrong but...

12:51 Helenah; There is a reason behind everything.

12:52 techuser; why would one want to bring a misbehaving person to their home?

12:52 Helenah; techuser: You will say IRC is better than anything, on another day I saw you say "IRC is better than sex!"

12:52 TR News; "Stop me if you've heard this before, but I've discovered another game that takes elements from Vampire Survivor" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/boneraiser-minions-is-probably-my-next-100-hour-indie-obession/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:52 TR Bot; Minions is probably my next 100 hour indie obsession | GamingOnLinux

12:52 techuser; for 18+ years

12:52 techuser; entire life ruined

12:52 techuser; wasn't the first time I said IRC is better than sex

12:52 TR News; "the developer behind them has died after a battle with Cancer" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/waves-and-waves-2-notorious-are-now-free-after-developer-passed-away/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:52 TR Bot; and Waves 2: Notorious are now free after developer passed away | GamingOnLinux

12:53 Helenah; techuser: Children misbehave because they've been conditioned to be that way, a child is born an empty slate, it doesn't know to behave or misbehave at that point, it has no concept of behaviour and doesn't know what behaving is.

12:53 TR News; "Radio General - Water Rats is the first paid expansion for the positively rated unique strategy game" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/command-armies-over-voice-comms-radio-general-water-rats-expansion-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:53 TR Bot; armies over voice comms, Radio General - Water Rats expansion out now | GamingOnLinux

12:53 techuser; a case when developer death is good?

12:53 TR News; "predatory practices" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/games-publisher-pqube-accused-of-predatory-practices-and-being-manipulative/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

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12:53 TR Bot; publisher PQube accused of 'predatory practices' and being manipulative (updated) | GamingOnLinux

12:53 Helenah; It's only as a child learns things about the world that it starts doing more things.

12:53 Helenah; You condition a child

12:53 Helenah; automatically via nurture

12:54 Helenah; That shapes that shape

12:54 techuser; could as well be chatting on IRC, instead of talking with children

12:54 Helenah; *child

12:54 schestowitz[TR]; ssome parents are like children

12:54 Helenah; techuser: I like children...

12:54 schestowitz[TR]; and if they lose their capacity to think clearly, more so

12:55 Helenah; Love em but I'm happy with my cat...

12:55 techuser; read books, watch movies, use computers, etc

12:55 schestowitz[TR]; cats are a lot less work

12:55 techuser; both cats and children waste one's money

12:55 schestowitz[TR]; they don't even need a walk in ther park, unlike dogs

12:55 schestowitz[TR]; also, cats don't contemplate suicide, unlike kids

12:56 TR News; "Vim has the following three line numbering modes:Absolute line numberRelative line numberHybrid line number" https://vitux.com/how-to-show-or-hide-line-numbers-in-vim/ | Source: Vitux

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12:56 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://vitux.com/how-to-show-or-hide-line-numbers-in-vim/ )

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12:56 techuser; love is expensive

12:57 *CrystalMath (~coderain@mcttbtsji475k.irc) has joined #techrights

12:58 schestowitz[TR]; if you love nature, love is free

12:58 MinceR; generally cats are much nicer than humans

12:59 schestowitz[TR]; maybe humans need selective breeding then

12:59 schestowitz[TR]; to become like domesticated cats

12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.78


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13:00 TR News; "Written in Python and Javascript, Ajenti provides a powerful and intuitive UI that is lightweight and resource-friendly." https://www.tecmint.com/install-ajenti-control-panel-debian-ubuntu/ | Source: TecMint

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13:00 TR Bot; How to Install Ajenti Control Panel in Debian and Ubuntu

13:00 TR News; "According to the IPQ8072A datasheet, the SoC offers four ARM Cortex A53 with a max frequency of 2GHz." https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-embedded-board-taps-qualcomm-processor-4x-1gbe-ports-and-1x-10gbe-port/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

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13:00 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/networking-embedded-board-taps-qualcomm-processor-4x-1gbe-ports-and-1x-10gbe-port/ )

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13:01 TR News; "Even though the technology related news media isn't about inhibiting thinking or controlling the masses" https://unixsheikh.com/articles/do-you-feel-overwhelmed-trying-to-stay-up-to-date-with-the-latest-tech-news.html | Source: Unix Sheikh

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13:01 TR Bot; Do you feel overwhelmed trying to stay up to date with the latest tech news?

13:01 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: some human love can be free too

13:01 schestowitz[TR]; but not if yiou have kids

13:01 schestowitz[TR]; it's a money sink

13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and demanding spouses are too

13:02 schestowitz[TR]; that begets a need for high income

13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and then you are rendered eternal slave ("provider")

13:02 schestowitz[TR]; then that leads to ncoonflict

13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and escalates into dovorces and resentment, neflect of soffpsinring

13:02 schestowitz[TR]; that the state neglects too

13:03 schestowitz[TR]; patents will never admit regret about brearing kids

13:03 schestowitz[TR]; because society treate that as pos-natal abortion

13:03 schestowitz[TR]; which is a sick think to contemplate

13:03 schestowitz[TR]; like drowning living kids

13:03 schestowitz[TR]; so parents keep those thoughts to thewmselves

13:03 schestowitz[TR]; daemonfc's mom spat at him

13:04 schestowitz[TR]; how insulting to be spat on by the person whose womb you came from

13:04 TR News; "In the past I've written about state machines in Rust." https://blog.yoshuawuyts.com/state-machines-2/ | Source: Yoshua Wuyts

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13:04 TR Bot; State Machines II

13:04 TR News; "I was at my wits end for this newsletter after my first two ideas hit research barriers." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/why-do-arrays-start-at-0/ | Source: Buttondown

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13:04 TR Bot; Why do arrays start at 0? Buttondown

13:05 TR News; "These messages are well-intentioned and in many cases on point." https://www.wired.com/story/children-screen-time-psychology/ | Source: Wired

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13:05 TR Bot; Adults Don't Get About Teens and Digital Life | WIRED

13:06 TR News; [Old] "Slack, which is now owned by Salesforce, says a security researcher disclosed the bug to the company on July 17, 2022." https://www.wired.com/story/slack-hashed-passwords-exposed/ | Source: Wired

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13:06 TR Bot; Slack Bug Exposed Some Users Hashed Passwords for 5 Years | WIRED

13:07 TR News; "A 2FA code is meant to prevent a specific class of problem." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/08/whats-the-optimal-length-for-a-2fa-code/ | Source: Terence Eden

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13:07 TR Bot; Whats the optimal length for a 2FA code? Terence Edens Blog

13:07 TR News; "In this article well make some changes to the example extension to make such an attack against it feasible" https://palant.info/2022/08/24/attack-surface-of-extension-pages/ | Source: Wladimir Palant

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13:07 TR Bot; Attack surface of extension pages | Almost Secure

13:07 TR News; "Ive noticed that theres a common misconception that Certificate Transparency is a replacement for HTTP public key pinning." https://emilymstark.com/2022/08/23/certificate-transparency-is-really-not-a-replacement-for-key-pinning.html |

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13:07 TR Bot; Certificate Transparency is really not a replacement for key pinning | Emily M. Stark

13:09 TR News; "As the NSO Group struggles with intense scrutiny and being blacklisted by the US, its less well-known European rivals are jostling to take its clients, researchers say" https://www.wired.com/story/europe-spyware-scandals-greece/ | Source: Wired

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13:09 TR Bot; Scandals Are Ripping Through Europe | WIRED

13:09 TR News; "Last week, hackers broke into the systems of Twilio, a cloud communications company that provides infrastructure to other companies to automate sending text messages to their users." https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjkvxv/how-a-third-party-sms-service-was-used-to-take-over-signal-accounts | Source: Vice

↺ https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjkvxv/how-a-third-party-sms-service-was-used-to-take-over-signal-accounts

13:09 TR Bot; a Third-Party SMS Service Was Used to Take Over Signal Accounts

13:09 TR News; "This is because strong authentication is required to access almost all public services and many commercial services, and the most common form of authentication is a bank ID." https://yle.fi/news/3-12590858 | Source: YLE

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13:09 TR Bot; Bank account obstacles creating Finland's "second class citizens" | News | Yle Uutiset

13:09 TR News; Too many back doors, even THE EMPIRE cannot keep up with the mess it CREATED https://www.cyberscoop.com/top-justice-official-paper-only/ | Source: Scoop News Group

↺ https://www.cyberscoop.com/top-justice-official-paper-only/

13:09 TR Bot; now relies on paper for its most sensitive court documents, official says - CyberScoop

13:11 TR News; "Cognitive biases are systematic deviations from rational judgment." https://matt-rickard.com/a-short-list-of-cognitive-biases | Source: Matt Rickard

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13:11 TR Bot; A Short List of Cognitive Biases

13:11 TR News; "An international team of researchers decided to look into what factors have enabled these countries to make that shift and what might happen if more countries adopted a similar transportation focus." https://www.wired.com/story/bike-more-curb-global-emissions/ | Source: Wired

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13:11 TR Bot; What Happens When Countries Use Bikes to Fight Emissions | WIRED

13:11 TR News; "There is a forecast risk of unscheduled, protracted, rolling black-outs in midwinter." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html | Source: Antipope

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13:11 TR Bot; The gathering crisis - Charlie's Diary

13:11 TR News; "The history of the technological and philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin make two things clear." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/08/investment-frauds.html | Source: David Rosenthal

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13:11 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Investment Frauds

13:12 TR News; "I've listed the sections below in order of priority if your end goal is to be sponsored by organizations or companies" https://sethmlarson.dev/blog/preparing-for-the-wave-of-open-source-funding | Source: Seth Michael Larson

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13:12 TR Bot; Preparing for the wave of open source funding

13:12 TR News; "GULAG (Google) doesnt even feel compelled to tell them why they have been banned" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/22/cook-county-judges-office-gets-thrown-off-gulag-tube-youtube-and-has-to-file-an-appeal/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)

↺ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/22/cook-county-judges-office-gets-thrown-off-gulag-tube-youtube-and-has-to-file-an-appeal/

13:12 TR Bot; Cook County Judges Office gets thrown off GULAG Tube (YouTube) and has to file an appeal. | BaronHK's Rants

13:12 TR News; "Twitter's security vulnerabilities makes the platform vulnerable to foreign spies" https://text.npr.org/1119071586 | Source: NPR

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13:12 TR Bot; A former employee accuses Twitter of big security lapses in a whistleblower complaint

13:13 TR News; "Speed test data by Ookla shows Australias actual [Internet] speeds are not globally competitive" https://michaelwest.com.au/slow-internet-among-barriers-to-growth-pc/ | Source: Michael West Media

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13:13 TR Bot; Slow internet among barriers to growth: PC - Michael West

13:14 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I got free human love!

13:14 Helenah; free and true! :D

13:15 Helenah; Best love ever!

13:15 techuser; IRC user love

13:15 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/married-people-trolling-each-other-31.jpg

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13:15 techuser; "user" can mean a bot too, though

13:15 Helenah; You can't beat it, if you want long lasting, sustaining, non-turbulent love then that kind is right one.

13:15 Helenah; I met her on IRC, techuser

13:15 *psydruid tests and exceeds the boundaries of Intel, Microsoft, Gulag, Secure Boot, TPM and Pluton and fully expects to be called out for that due to disregarding absolutely necessary "security" measures

13:17 techuser; I may have some attraction to some IRC users for short time, but it is definitely not "love"

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; irc has two such issues

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; 1). you can project into unknown usernames attributes you want them to have

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; 2) you don't get nuaance

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; so you can raise expectations

13:18 schestowitz[TR]; and get insulted over nothing

13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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13:20 techuser; people disappear

13:20 Helenah; techuser: You would know if something is love because you would feel it.

13:20 techuser; people also raise expectations about their loved ones

13:20 Helenah; Love is chemical based.

13:20 Helenah; Oxytocin

13:21 Helenah; There needs to be an appropriate stimuli to stimulate the release of it into your system.

13:21 techuser; I can't even be sure I'm talking with a human or a bot

13:21 techuser; Luis64_gamer used to be here, but then he left because he thought DaemonFC is a bot

13:21 techuser; and he didn't like that bots look like humans

13:21 Helenah; You can't blame him.

13:22 Helenah; DaemonFC has very uniform and consistant behavioural pattern.

13:22 Helenah; Such as posting a URL, then posting quotes of texts in that URL and then talking about it regardless of whether or not someone else is listening and it's always his own topic.

13:23 TR News; (NEW): Games: New Titles and Development News" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Games_New_Titles_and_Development_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Games_New_Titles_and_Development_News.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Games_New_Titles_and_Development_News.shtml

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13:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: New Titles and Development News

13:23 Helenah; Which is like an awareness deficit, a deficit in the awareness of other people around him.

13:23 techuser; I tried telling Luis64_gamer to come back, but idk if he even noticed it yet

13:23 Helenah; You can't engage with him because he won't engage with you.

13:23 techuser; idk if I should keep asking sometimes, until I get some response

13:23 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint Release Cycle: What You Need to Know" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_Mint_Release_Cycle_What_You_Need_to_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_Mint_Release_Cycle_What_You_Need_to_Know.gmi

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13:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint Release Cycle: What You Need to Know"

13:24 TR News; (NEW): The Best Linux Task Manager" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_Best_Linux_Task_Manager.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_Best_Linux_Task_Manager.gmi

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↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/The_Best_Linux_Task_Manager.gmi

13:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines The Best Linux Task Manager"

13:24 Helenah; Constantly asking could eventually get interpreted as harassment.

13:28 techuser; I had to ask him a lot to even come back to IRC, over Discord bridge

13:29 techuser; he did first appear on IRC, then did stay a bit, then did quit because some system issues but was still on the Discord bridge

13:30 *loner has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

13:30 techuser; but then he came back only when I did rage quit the network with the bridge, for unrelated reasons

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13:32 TR News; Ongoing phishing campaign can hack you even when youre protected with MFA | Ars Technica https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/microsoft-details-phishing-campaign-that-can-hijack-mfa-protected-accounts/

↺ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/microsoft-details-phishing-campaign-that-can-hijack-mfa-protected-accounts/

13:32 TR Bot; Ongoing phishing campaign can hack you even when youre protected with MFA | Ars Technica

13:33 TR News; Optimizing Developer Impact on K8s Security - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/optimizing-developer-impact-on-k8s-security/ Source: containerjournal | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/optimizing-developer-impact-on-k8s-security/

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13:33 TR Bot; Optimizing Developer Impact on K8s Security - Container Journal

13:33 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.2.gmi

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13:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos

13:34 TR News; (NEW): KaOS 2022.08 Released: What to Look Forward to in the Latest Release https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/KaOS_2022_08_Released_What_to_Look_Forward_to_in_the_Latest_Rel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/KaOS_2022_08_Released_What_to_Look_Forward_to_in_the_Latest_Rel.gmi

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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines KaOS 2022.08 Released: What to Look Forward to in the Latest Release

13:34 TR News; (NEW): Help improve GNOME!" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Help_improve_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Help_improve_GNOME.gmi

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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Help improve GNOME!"

13:34 MinceR; 25 142335 < Helenah> You can't engage with him because he won't engage with you.

13:34 MinceR; pretty sure i already have

13:34 TR News; (NEW): A review of postmarketOS on the Xiaomi Poco F1 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_review_of_postmarketOS_on_the_Xiaomi_Poco_F1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_review_of_postmarketOS_on_the_Xiaomi_Poco_F1.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_review_of_postmarketOS_on_the_Xiaomi_Poco_F1.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/A_review_of_postmarketOS_on_the_Xiaomi_Poco_F1.gmi

13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines A review of postmarketOS on the Xiaomi Poco F1

13:34 TR News; (NEW): 15 Ways to Tweak Nemo File Manager in Linux to Get More Out of it" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/15_Ways_to_Tweak_Nemo_File_Manager_in_Linux_to_Get_More_Out_of_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/15_Ways_to_Tweak_Nemo_File_Manager_in_Linux_to_Get_More_Out_of_.gmi

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13:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines 15 Ways to Tweak Nemo File Manager in Linux to Get More Out of it

13:35 TR News; (NEW): Best text editor for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.gmi

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↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Here_are_some_of_our_top_picks_for_text_editors_on_Linux.gmi

13:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best text editor for Linux

13:37 TR News; Happy 31st Birthday, Linux! https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Happy_31st_Birthday_Linux.shtml

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13:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Happy 31st Birthday, Linux!

13:38 Helenah; MinceR: I have a few times but more often than not he'll continue with whatever he was talking about and blank you out. lol

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13:41 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: true, it's a runaway train oif thoughts

13:41 schestowitz[TR]; so you can imaginwe what he's like tyo argue with IRL

13:41 Helenah; Yeah :D

13:42 Helenah; My Autism probably won't be able to handle it. lol

13:42 schestowitz[TR]; oh, finally it's getting sunny outside

13:42 schestowitz[TR]; later then the 3 frorecast sources said

13:42 schestowitz[TR]; 2 of them in gemini

13:42 schestowitz[TR]; we'll head off soon for her birthday..

13:43 schestowitz[TR]; *later than

13:44 TR News; I am my father's son gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-08-25-dad.gmi

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13:45 TR News; Open content that you can contribute to gemini://siiky.srht.site/kB45oC/re-open-content.gmi "And would also like to mention iNaturalist, where people can contribute observations of animals, plants, fungi, &c. Photos are shared under user-chosen terms, but they recommend using some CC licenses compatible with Wikimedia Commons."

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13:45 techuser; IRC is better than children!

13:46 TR News; "For the past years I've had several cycles of disenchantment with computers. Although nice things have come out of them, like Compudanzas, they have also represented a source of anxiety: it seems I have internalized that my way of contributing to the world, society and a solarpunk present and future *has* to be through" gemini://compudanzas.net/biosejo_120220825.gmi

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13:46 TR News; Local peer to peer binary cache with NixOS and Peerix gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-with-peerix.gmi

↺ gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-with-peerix.gmi

13:46 Helenah; See?

13:47 Helenah; Saw it again!

13:47 Helenah; "IRC is better than" :D

13:47 *Helenah is now known as IRCIsBetterThan

13:47 IRCIsBetterThan; techuser: Hi

13:47 techuser; hi

13:48 TR News; "Police in Yekaterinburg arrested former Mayor Evgeny Roizman on Wednesday morning" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/24/outspoken-antiwar-politician-and-former-yekaterinburg-mayor-evgeny-roizman-charged-with-felony-discrediting-the-military-could-face-up-to-five-years-in-prison | Source: Meduza

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13:48 TR Bot; NO TITLE

13:49 TR News; Russia Today: The US/West is bad for imprisoning someone for exposing US war crimes. Russia, OTHO, arrests people for merely speaking about Russian war crimes.

13:51 TR News; Encryption https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/24/dont-wait-get-into-the-encryption-habit-now/ | Source: Scheerpost

↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/24/dont-wait-get-into-the-encryption-habit-now/

13:51 TR Bot; Wait: Get Into the Encryption Habit Now scheerpost.com

13:53 TR News; The disinformation https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/24/first-person-incarcerated-in-russia-for-calling-the-invasion-of-ukraine-a-war-says-he-s-being-denied-vital-medical-aid-in-prison | Source: Meduza

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13:53 TR Bot; NO TITLE

13:58 TR News; Disney https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/23/u-s-appeals-court-affirms-disney-win-against-evel-knievel-estate-over-toy-story-character/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/23/u-s-appeals-court-affirms-disney-win-against-evel-knievel-estate-over-toy-story-character/

13:58 TR Bot; Appeals Court Affirms Disney Win Against Evel Knievel Estate Over Toy Story Character | Techdirt

13:58 TR News; DRM garbage https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/hbo-max-and-sesame-street-highlight-the-stupidity-of-mindless-media-megamergers/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/hbo-max-and-sesame-street-highlight-the-stupidity-of-mindless-media-megamergers/

13:58 TR Bot; Max And Sesame Street Highlight The Stupidity Of Mindless Media Megamergers | Techdirt

13:59 TR News; manchinism https://truthout.org/articles/650-progressive-groups-vow-to-fight-manchin-deal-with-everything-weve-got/ | Source: TruthOut

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13:59 TR Bot; 650+ Progressive Groups Vow to Fight Manchin Deal "With Everything We've Got"


2 PM, August 25

14:00 TR News; During a court hearing scheduled for today https://torrentfreak.com/private-torrent-site-user-faces-prison-after-sharing-40-movies-220824/ | Source: Torrent Freak

↺ https://torrentfreak.com/private-torrent-site-user-faces-prison-after-sharing-40-movies-220824/

14:00 TR Bot; Torrent Site User Faces Prison After Sharing 40 Movies * TorrentFreak

14:00 TR News; Popular stream-ripping site Yout.com finds itself blocked again by Peruvian ISPs. https://torrentfreak.com/yout-com-site-blocking-whack-a-mole-continues-in-peru-220825/ | Source: Torrent Freak

↺ https://torrentfreak.com/yout-com-site-blocking-whack-a-mole-continues-in-peru-220825/

14:00 TR Bot; Site Blocking 'Whack-a-Mole' Continues in Peru * TorrentFreak

14:00 TR News; Denuvo DRM https://torrentfreak.com/denuvo-promises-to-kill-switch-emulator-piracy-with-new-protection-220824/ | Source: Torrent Freak

↺ https://torrentfreak.com/denuvo-promises-to-kill-switch-emulator-piracy-with-new-protection-220824/

14:00 TR Bot; Promises to Kill Nintendo Switch Emulator Piracy With New Protection * TorrentFreak

14:00 TR News; How to gender-balance? https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-peer-instruction-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi

↺ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-peer-instruction-approach-engaging-girls/

14:00 TR Bot; A peer instruction approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Study results - Raspberry Pi

14:02 TR News; UKs Online Safety Bill https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/former-uk-supreme-court-judge-calls-out-online-safety-bill-as-harmful-by-itself/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/former-uk-supreme-court-judge-calls-out-online-safety-bill-as-harmful-by-itself/

14:02 TR Bot; UK Supreme Court Judge Calls Out Online Safety Bill As Harmful By Itself | Techdirt

14:03 TR News; TTAB on trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/fucking-ttab-says-fuct-owner-cant-trademark-fuck-because-that-word-fucking-belongs-to-all-of-us/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/fucking-ttab-says-fuct-owner-cant-trademark-fuck-because-that-word-fucking-belongs-to-all-of-us/

14:03 TR Bot; TTAB Says FUCT Owner Cant Trademark Fuck Because That Word Fucking Belongs To All Of Us | Techdirt

14:06 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/21/tumblr-gets-deep-07-21-22/

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14:06 TR Bot; 24 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention Today

14:06 TR News; Public Knowledge Joins 48 Public Interest Groups Urging House To Pass Bipartisan Privacy Bill - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-joins-48-public-interest-groups-urging-house-to-pass-bipartisan-privacy-bill/ Source: Public Knowledge |

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14:06 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Joins 48 Public Interest Groups Urging House To Pass Bipartisan Privacy Bill - Public Knowledge

14:08 TR News; (UPDATED): Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Plasma_5_25_for_Jammy_22_04_available_via_PPA.shtml

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14:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Plasma 5.25 for Jammy 22.04 available via PPA (Updated)

14:12 TR News; (NEW): FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/FreeBSD_on_the_Framework_Laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/FreeBSD_on_the_Framework_Laptop.gmi

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14:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines FreeBSD on the Framework Laptop

14:15 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Linuxs 31st Birthday and KDE Plasma 5.25 in Kubuntu 22.04 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/linux-31st-birthday/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/linux-31st-birthday/

http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/linux-31st-birthday/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/linux-31st-birthday/

14:15 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Linuxs 31st Birthday and KDE Plasma 5.25 in Kubuntu 22.04 | Techrights

14:16 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi

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14:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers

14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

14:30 TR News; "I submitted a change to the nix package manager last week, and it got merged! It's now possible to define a bandwidth speed limit in the nix.conf configuration file." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nix-download-limit.gmi

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14:31 TR News; "Dear readers, given the popular demand for a RSS feed with HTML in it (which used to be the default), I modified the code to generate a new RSS file using HTML for its content." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/blog-rss-html.gmi

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14:31 TR News; ACEUPTO Wordo: COYPU gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-25.gmi

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14:58 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-30-22-17.jpg

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14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 112.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 107.56


3 PM, August 25

15:15 psydruid; developers developers developers with boundaries boundaries boundaries who don't care about crossing other people's boundaries boundaries boundaries

15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

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15:41 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187781.jpeg?mode=sfw

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15:41 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/187781.jpeg

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4 PM, August 25

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16:19 AdmFubar; https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/amazon-roomba-irobot-acquisition-monopoly/671145

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16:19 TR Bot; ( status 308 @ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/amazon-roomba-irobot-acquisition-monopoly/671145 )

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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi

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16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.08


5 PM, August 25

17:12 *IRCIsBetterThan is now known as s98259

17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

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17:24 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/187779.mp4?mode=sfw

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17:33 TR News; Jeffrey Lamar https://www.thenation.com/article/society/rap-lyrics-young-thug/ | Source: The Nation

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17:33 TR Bot; When Rap Lyrics Become Incriminating Speech | The Nation

17:35 TR News; PET Bottles https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/pet-bottles-diligently-turned-into-filament/ | Source: Hackaday

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17:35 TR Bot; Bottles Diligently Turned Into Filament | Hackaday

17:36 TR News; "If youve always been intrigued by the idea of performing hardware attacks" https://hackaday.com/2022/08/25/everything-you-didnt-know-you-need-to-know-about-glitching-attacks/ | Source: Hackaday

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17:36 TR Bot; You Didnt Know You Need To Know About Glitching Attacks | Hackaday

17:37 TR News; Oklahoma https://truthout.org/articles/oklahoma-teacher-disciplined-for-sharing-access-to-banned-books-has-quit/ | Source: TruthOut

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17:37 TR Bot; Oklahoma Teacher Disciplined for Sharing Access to Banned Books Has Quit

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17:50 TR News; E-Bike https://hackaday.com/2022/08/24/skarper-e-bike-conversion-kit-simplifies-electrifying-your-bike/ | Source: Hackaday

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17:50 TR Bot; E-Bike Conversion Kit Simplifies Electrifying Your Bike | Hackaday

17:50 TR News; "Corporate Democrats" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/corporate-democrats-maloney-and-goldman-fend-progressives-ny-primary | Source: Common Dreams

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17:50 TR Bot; Corporate Democrats Maloney and Goldman Fend Off Progressives in NY Primary

17:50 TR News; Maine https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/24/energy-giants-spending-millions-block-states-effort-create-consumer-owned-utility | Source: Common Dreams

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17:50 TR Bot; Opinion | Energy Giants Spending Millions to Block This State's Effort to Create Consumer-Owned Utility | Jon Lamson

17:51 TR News; Leave It in the Ground Initiative (LINGO) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/us-banks-pouring-23-billion-russian-carbon-bomb-projects | Source: Common Dreams

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17:51 TR Bot; US Banks Pouring $23 Billion Into Russian 'Carbon Bomb' Projects

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17:51 TR News; Xdotool Simulates Key Presses and Mouse Clicks - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1DF58wDDfBE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/1DF58wDDfBE

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17:51 TR Bot; Xdotool Simulates Key Presses and Mouse Clicks - Invidious

17:54 TR News; x86/mm: Print likely CPU at segfault time https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?h=x86/cpu&id=c926087eb38520b268515ae1a842db6db62554cc

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17:54 TR Bot; kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.

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17:54 TR News; Linux Action News 255 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149682/linux-action-news-255/

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17:54 TR Bot; Linux Action News 255 | Jupiter Broadcasting

17:56 TR News; (UPDATED): Tails 5.4 is out" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Tails_5_4_is_out.gmi

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17:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Tails 5.4 is out (UPDATED)

17:58 TR News; One has to be careful what one installs on a system; a lot of the media still blames "Linux" for users putting malware on it https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/08/25/pypi-phishing/

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17:58 TR Bot; Phishing PyPI users: Attackers compromise legitimate projects to push malware - Help Net Security

17:59 TR News; GNU "Linux is an amazing and powerful operating system. More specifically, the Linux kernel is the source of many of its superpowers. I have been using GNU/Linux for 25 years and have used a lot of versions of the Linux kernel. I have even compiled the kernel a time or two in class and a few times just for grins." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-kernel-tuning

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17:59 TR Bot; How to tune the Linux kernel with the /proc filesystem | Enable Sysadmin


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18:01 TR News; McConnell https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/after-19-trillion-giveaway-rich-mcconnell-calls-debt-relief-working-class-slap-face | Source: Common Dreams

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18:01 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1562544729711333377

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18:01 TR News; "The stock market booming. Corporate earnings rising." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/24/only-decent-economy-one-works-working-people | Source: Common Dreams

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18:01 TR Bot; After $1.9 Trillion Giveaway to Rich, McConnell Calls Debt Relief for Working Class 'Slap in the Face'

18:01 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Kremlin propagandists are trying to convince their audiences that Ukrainians will somehow forgive and forget Putin's atrocities, making comparisons to Chechnya and ludicrously predicting that someday, shoulder to shoulder with Russians, Ukrainians will invade Poland and Germany."|nitter.it

18:01 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/254396

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18:01 TR Bot; Opinion | The Only Decent Economy Is One That Works for Working People | Hamilton Nolan

18:01 TR Bot; Russian Deputy Defense Minister&#x27;s family owns $80 million worth of real estate, reports Team Navalny

18:02 TR News; Medicare https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/the-stealth-plan-to-privatize-medicare-for-all/ | Source: Counter Punch

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18:02 TR Bot; Stealth Plan to Privatize Medicare for All - CounterPunch.org

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18:03 TR News; "Dont tell the liberals that the average Democrat in the Congress is worth a bit more than the average Republican." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/the-progressive-industrial-complex-and-our-fascist-future/ | Source: Counter Punch

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18:03 TR Bot; Progressive Industrial Complex and Our Fascist Future - CounterPunch.org

18:03 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/25/7364709/

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18:03 TR Bot; Attack on the railway station in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast: the death toll increases to 25 | Ukrainska Pravda

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18:03 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/25/russian-defence-ministry-says-200-ukrainian-servicemen-killed-in-chaplino-shelling-news "Russian Defence Ministry says 200 Ukrainian servicemen killed in Chaplino shelling"

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18:03 TR Bot; .

18:03 TR News; BillPR aka BillPR spreading misinformation https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/25/npr-host-and-nyt-guest-stress-that-russia-is-communist-while-vilifying-uninformed-republicans/ | Source: Counter Punch

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18:03 TR Bot; Host and NYT Guest Stress that Russia is Communist While Vilifying Uninformed Republicans - CounterPunch.org

18:04 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/25/7364779/

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18:04 TR Bot; Russia disconnects Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant from power grid for the first time ever ? Energoatom | Ukrainska Pravda

18:04 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: when the currency of "success" is number of deaths

18:06 TR News; ryanair https://telex.hu/english/2022/08/25/ryanair-prepared-to-take-case-of-300-million-forint-fine-to-eu-court-of-justice | Source: Telex (Hungary)

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18:06 TR Bot; Telex: Ryanair prepared to take case of 300 million forint fine to EU Court of Justice

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18:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: Pretty much. Well, a good word would be "alleged".

18:09 TR News; The cause of climate change is humans, not fossil fuels. Overpopulation such as this is only possible with combustion of fossil fuels, fertilisers etc. Want to tackle climate change? Start dealing with population size.

18:10 TR News; I'm sure those EVs run fine on air and sun ;-) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/24/huge-california-ban-new-gasoline-fueled-car-sales-2035 more pollution, more production of wars with lithium and nasty chemicals...

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18:10 TR Bot; 'This Is Huge': California to Ban New Gasoline-Fueled Car Sales by 2035

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: they are "one people"

18:11 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^

18:13 TR News; Overpopulation is a thing. Want offspring? Get a cat. https://telex.hu/english/2022/08/25/the-state-audit-office-worries-that-too-many-women-getting-university-education-will-lead-to-less-children-being-born | Source: Telex (Hungary)

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18:13 TR Bot; Telex: The State Audit Office worries that too many Hungarian women getting university education will lead to less children being born

18:13 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ^

18:13 MinceR; yeah, the usual evil christian fundamentalist bullshit

18:14 TR News; Orban 'signalling' to GOPKK, now this... https://telex.hu/english/2022/08/24/dutch-far-right-politician-geert-wilders-awarded-hungarian-state-honour | Source: Telex (Hungary)

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18:14 TR Bot; Telex: Dutch far right politician Geert Wilders awarded Hungarian state honour

18:14 MinceR; they want female humans to be livestock

18:14 schestowitz[TR]; Talibanistan

18:15 TR News; Corporate Hijacking of Democracy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/24/march-towards-us-fascism-began-corporate-hijacking-democracy | Source: Common Dreams

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18:15 TR Bot; Opinion | The March Towards US Fascism Began With the Corporate Hijacking of Democracy | Thom Hartmann

18:15 TR News; Student Debt https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/25/student-debt-fight-continues-progressives-eye-another-goal-tuition-free-college | Source: Common Dreams

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18:15 TR Bot; As Student Debt Fight Continues, Progressives Eye Another Goal: Tuition-Free College

18:15 TR News; Domestic Workers Bill of Rights https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/at-long-last-congress-considers-a-national-domestic-workers-bill-of-rights/ | Source: Counter Punch

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18:15 TR Bot; Long Last, Congress Considers a National Domestic Workers Bill of Rights - CounterPunch.org

18:16 TR News; Student Loan https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/25/we-can-do-so-much-more-on-student-loan-forgiveness/ | Source: Counter Punch

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18:16 TR Bot; Can Do So Much More on Student Loan Forgiveness - CounterPunch.org

18:16 TR News; Rupert Murdoch lies about Lithium https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/24/wsj-sells-lithium-neocolonialism-as-climate-necessity/ | Source: Scheerpost

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18:16 TR Bot; Sells Lithium Neocolonialism as Climate Necessity scheerpost.com

18:17 TR News; "Not Without a Fight" https://shadowproof.com/2022/08/24/protest-song-week-not-without-fight-danceland/ | Source: Shadowproof

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18:17 TR Bot; Protest Song Of The Week: 'Not Without A Fight' By Danceland

18:17 TR News; Montanan https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/24/a-river-of-shit-runs-through-it/ | Source: Counter Punch

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18:17 TR Bot; River of Shit Runs Through It - CounterPunch.org

18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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18:22 TR News; "in-car entertainment enjoyable and safe" ... no, it is STILL a distraction from the driving and listening devices are an abuse of human rights, they don't make you safe https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/apple/how-to-turn-off-apple-carplay/

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18:22 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/apple/how-to-turn-off-apple-carplay/ )

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18:22 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187602.jpeg?mode=sfw

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18:24 TR News; Music Video Disclosed as a Cyber Vulnerability - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gendmuVgbaE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/gendmuVgbaE

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18:24 TR Bot; Music Video Disclosed as a Cyber Vulnerability - Invidious

18:24 TR News; YET ANOTHER package format, and Ubuntu might not get this GNOME feature - Linux & Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SrcupdKGvBs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SrcupdKGvBs

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18:24 TR Bot; YET ANOTHER package format, and Ubuntu might not get this GNOME feature - Linux & Open Source News - Invidious

18:25 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Neptune 7.5 "Ada"." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lEPDHXRm4As

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18:25 TR Bot; How to install Neptune 7.5 "Ada" - Invidious

18:26 TR News; Webspam from "Marianne elanotta" gives a boring ol' FALSE dichotomy: "Azure VS AWS: Whats the Difference"... as if you must choose between proprietary software and servers one controls ceased to exist

18:27 TR News; Mozilla as wannabe censorship company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/teens-gen-z-misinformation-social-media/

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18:27 TR Bot; A little less misinformation, a little more action

18:28 TR News; Mozilla Firefox should be a Web browser, not information police

18:28 TR News; Clown computing complexity begets more holes https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/gitlab-patches-critical-rce/

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18:28 TR Bot; Patches Critical RCE in Community and Enterprise Editions | eSecurityPlanet

18:29 TR News; "CISA has released 1 Industrial Control Systems (ICS) advisory on August 25, 2022. This advisory provides timely information about current security issues, vulnerabilities, and exploits surrounding ICS." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/25/cisa-releases-1-industrial-control-systems-advisory

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18:29 TR Bot; CISA releases 1 Industrial Control Systems Advisory | CISA

18:30 TR News; "What's wrong with Android, you ask? Google, obviously. You'd think that, with hundreds of billions of dollars to play with, they would soar above, say, an amateur effort like Linux. But no, instead they took linux and made it largely unusable, except in some, very specific use cases." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:31 TR News; "Don't be fooled -- you are not Google's customer. Google is paid by hardware manufacturers and advertisers, and those who buy consumer data. You, the consumer, are the ticket to the game. Google (and other companies) will do the minimum necessary to keep the illusion of serving you while maximizing profits from their real customers" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:31 TR News; "An 'app', consequently, is a piece of spyware, combined with an advertising display, with a small amount of useful functionality, locked down to be incompatible and unusable by other 'apps', of course (lock-in). Apps are there to extract money from you, while providing Google with valuable telemetry." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:32 TR News; "These are cranked out by uninspired billionaire wannabees, who care more about ad integration and in-app purchases than actually performing a useful task. Collecting personal information is likely more lucrative than selling the app, and selling apps at the Google store for a buck" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:33 TR News; "First task: find a file manager. The built-in 'Device storage' one is complete bullshit, so you go back to F-Droid. You try one that seems to not work at all, because your phone is like 3 years old. You try another one, which seems to work, called File Explorer." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:33 TR News; "Your partner is looking at you funny, because you said you were just going to get an audiobook, and three hours have gone by, and you are very agitated, muttering obsenities, and it's really unpleasant to be anywhere near you when you get like that." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:34 TR News; "P.S. IOS, apparently, is even worse about not allowing you to see and manipulate files. Well, that prick Jobs was known for saying that "it's not the customer's job to know what they want", so no great surprise there. Also why I would never own Apple hardware." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-25.android.gmi

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18:36 TR News; Gaining Experience for your GNU/Linux Career - What should you Learn?! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FaFITB2wuUQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/FaFITB2wuUQ

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18:36 TR Bot; Gaining Experience for your Linux Career - What should you Learn?! - Invidious

18:39 TR News; "The affected product is vulnerable to an out-of-bounds write while processing project files. If a valid user is tricked into using maliciously crafted project files, an attacker could achieve arbitrary code execution." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-237-01

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18:39 TR Bot; FATEK Automation FvDesigner | CISA

18:39 TR News; "A remote attacker could exploitsomeof these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/25/cisco-releases-security-updates-multiple-products

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18:39 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA

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18:43 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Experience Gain, Neptune, Package Mangement, and More" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Videos_and_Shows_Experience_Gain_Neptune_Package_Mangement_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Videos_and_Shows_Experience_Gain_Neptune_Package_Mangement_and_.gmi

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18:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Experience Gain, Neptune, Package Mangement, and More"

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18:47 TR News; Joe Biren Engrish https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/08/25/china-launches-the-inevitable-indigenous-gpu/

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18:47 TR Bot; China Launches The Inevitable Indigenous GPU

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18:50 TR News; U.S. Solicitor General and Department of Commerce must hold NSO accountable - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-solicitor-general-and-department-of-commerce-must-hold-nso-accountable/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/u-s-solicitor-general-and-department-of-commerce-must-hold-nso-accountable/

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18:50 TR Bot; U.S. Solicitor General and Department of Commerce must hold NSO accountable - Access Now

18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 57.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 136.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.20

18:59 TR News; ICBM Red Hat... "Mastering Kubernetes cluster lifecycle management with the multicluster engine for Kubernetes operator" -> "The requested URL was not found on this server." https://www.redhat.com/en/node/731 Drupal exposed.

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18:59 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.redhat.com/en/node/731 )

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7 PM, August 25

19:00 TR News; "July 2023 FreeBSD 14.0" https://www.freebsd.org/releng/ https://www.freebsd.org/releng/

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19:00 TR Bot; Release Engineering Information | The FreeBSD Project

19:11 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-24-08-25

↺ https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-24-08-25

19:11 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 24 Telegraph

19:17 TR News; "readfile" system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/driver-core.git/log/?h=readfile

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19:17 TR Bot; kernel/git/gregkh/driver-core.git - Driver core development git tree

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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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19:25 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi

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19:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers

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19:28 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22081666

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19:28 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/roxxlrwdkph91.jpg created on 2022-08-16 21:00:18.068470

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19:30 TR News; Spam sites or pure webspam "generating" anti-Linux garbage, Gulag Noise picks that up https://www.gearrice.com/update/a-2001-legal-conflict-over-the-linux-code-keeps-open-the-possibility-that-a-company-could-charge-a-royalty-for-its-use/

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19:30 TR Bot; 2001 legal conflict over the Linux code keeps open the possibility that a company could charge a royalty for its use. - Gearrice

19:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos " https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/today_s_howtos.3.gmi

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19:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"

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19:45 TR News; (NEW): Linux 5.19.4, 5.15.63, 5.10.138, 5.4.211, 4.19.256, 4.14.291, and 4.9.326 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_5_19_4_5_15_63_5_10_138_5_4_211_4_19_256_4_14_291_and_4_9.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Linux_5_19_4_5_15_63_5_10_138_5_4_211_4_19_256_4_14_291_and_4_9.gmi

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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux 5.19.4, 5.15.63, 5.10.138, 5.4.211, 4.19.256, 4.14.291, and 4.9.326

19:45 TR News; (NEW): ALP Aims to Balance Past, Present with Future https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ALP_Aims_to_Balance_Past_Present_with_Future.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/ALP_Aims_to_Balance_Past_Present_with_Future.gmi

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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines ALP Aims to Balance Past, Present with Future

19:45 TR News; (NEW): Deepin releases 20.6 plus a preview of major new version https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Deepin_releases_20_6_plus_a_preview_of_major_new_version.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Deepin_releases_20_6_plus_a_preview_of_major_new_version.gmi

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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Deepin releases 20.6 plus a preview of major new version"

19:45 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Display the Weather Forecast on Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/How_to_Display_the_Weather_Forecast_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/How_to_Display_the_Weather_Forecast_on_Linux.gmi

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19:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Display the Weather Forecast on Linux

19:47 TR News; (NEW): Meet the Kubuntu Focus NX Mini Linux PC with 11th Gen Intel CPUs, Up to 64GB RAM https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Meet_the_Kubuntu_Focus_NX_Mini_Linux_PC_with_11th_Gen_Intel_CPU.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/Meet_the_Kubuntu_Focus_NX_Mini_Linux_PC_with_11th_Gen_Intel_CPU.gmi

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19:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Meet the Kubuntu Focus NX Mini Linux PC with 11th Gen Intel CPUs, Up to 64GB RAM

19:54 TR News; Do you use Kdenlive? Share your project and behind the scenes footage and stills! - Kdenlive https://kdenlive.org/en/2022/08/do-you-use-kdenlive-share-your-project-and-behind-the-scenes-footage-and-stills/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kdenlive.org/en/2022/08/do-you-use-kdenlive-share-your-project-and-behind-the-scenes-footage-and-stills/

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19:54 TR Bot; Do you use Kdenlive? Share your project and behind the scenes footage and stills! - Kdenlive

19:56 TR News; (UPDATED): Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.gmi

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19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08 released (UPDATEDx3)

19:56 TR News; (NEW): GNOMEs New Quick Toggles Land in Ubuntu 22.10 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/GNOME_s_New_Quick_Toggles_Land_in_Ubuntu_22_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/GNOME_s_New_Quick_Toggles_Land_in_Ubuntu_22_10.gmi

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19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNOMEs New Quick Toggles Land in Ubuntu 22.10

19:56 TR News; (NEW): 7 Best Free and Open Source Linux Student Information Systems" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/7_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Student_Information_Systems.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/25/7_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Student_Information_Systems.gmi

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19:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines 7 Best Free and Open Source Linux Student Information Systems"


8 PM, August 25

20:06 TR News; Links 25/08/2022: Deepin Chooses Another Way | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/25/independent-deepin/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/25/independent-deepin/

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20:06 TR Bot; Links 25/08/2022: Deepin Chooses Another Way | Techrights

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20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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20:23 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=59BueBd43vk

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20:23 TR Bot; Making of Bolg - Invidious

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20:25 MinceR; Lesistance is futire.

20:25 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187599.png?mode=sfw

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20:25 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/187599.png

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20:31 starstreak; https://github.com/skyjake/lagrange

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20:31 TR Bot; - skyjake/lagrange: A Beautiful Gemini Client

20:31 starstreak; oops

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20:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mZnv6LXD9qs

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20:37 TR Bot; ORCS* Army Marches & Attacks- Lord of the Rings/ Hobbit - Invidious

20:45 starstreak; Gotta love that Certified Microsoft 4096-byte stack overflow in the legacy remote support tool

20:45 starstreak; Message @Rosalina

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20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.76


9 PM, August 25

21:00 *Errr (~err@rcmcei2p3396g.irc) has joined #techrights

21:01 techuser; hi

21:01 starstreak; hello

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21:07 XRevan86; DaemonFC: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/commit/37c839b9308cd3d6580bf01077db8cb29ec2aa2f Is that it?

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21:07 TR Bot; policy-node: fix potential rescan loop (37c839b9) Commits PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab

21:08 DaemonFC; Most really old software has a large attack surface and can't be reliably fixed.

21:09 DaemonFC; So to an extent, Linux dropping things and having developers complain somewhere else that their proprietary software is affected is a "Good! Fuck 'em!" situation.

21:09 DaemonFC; But in some cases, what gets dropped was actually a part of a standard, adds no known attack surface, and is so small that dropping it and citing technical debt is laughable.

21:10 DaemonFC; Getting rid of the X11 printing system was good.

21:10 DaemonFC; Getting rid of DT_HASH from glibc was bad.

21:11 MinceR; distros can still build glibc with both DT_HASH and DT_GNU_HASH

21:12 DaemonFC; Yeah, so we're back to distro patching because of a completely avoidable situation.

21:12 MinceR; and it doesn't even affect you unless you're trying to do the dynamic linker's job, afaik

21:12 DaemonFC; Then software will behave unpredictably based on the decisions each one makes.

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21:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I wonder if MARISOL will ever give up and just work so few hours on purpose that they pass the straight bankruptcy test.

21:14 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5E3gra5wz4

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21:14 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=N5E3gra5wz4

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21:14 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Oracle Has Been Tracking Over 5 Billion People - Invidious

21:14 DaemonFC; That would be a better idea than remaining bogged down forever, making payments more slowly than the debt goes away.

21:14 DaemonFC; If you can keep things moving along until you pass the income test, you can immediately start earning more money again, literally the day after your Trustee meeting.

21:15 DaemonFC; What you tell the Trustee has to be the truth when you are telling it.

21:16 DaemonFC; Basically, the meeting happens about a month to six weeks after your filing. So if they could manage to earn just under the filing limit for the lookback period, then add a month to that, they could eliminate most of their debt. Much easier than flailing around trying to earn money and can't.

21:17 DaemonFC; They were boasting about "how hard they work" and "how many hours".

21:19 DaemonFC; They could probably wipe out everything except the last few payments on the BMW (presumably they want to keep that) and their mortgage.

21:19 DaemonFC; The restructuring would make it unlikely they'd ever lose the house.

21:19 DaemonFC; Then they could work fewer hours and actually enjoy their lives a bit if they actually learn something, like how to live within their means.

21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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21:20 DaemonFC; It's so much harder to earn a dollar than to save a dollar. Even in this economy. Especially in this economy.

21:21 DaemonFC; Saving a dollar means not spending it on something you want to have, right? Finding something else to do with that dollar.

21:21 DaemonFC; As soon as you spend one, you have to offset/earn another one. It's a very simple concept. Apparently so simple that it's beyond a woman with a Master's Degree in Nursing.

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21:28 DaemonFC; Okay, signed Mandy up for the Snapchat lawsuit too.

21:28 DaemonFC; MOAR BIPA!

21:29 DaemonFC; I had to go digging to figure out whether I even had an account or not. It was an old one, but I used it a couple times while in Illinois.

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21:29 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/22/illinois-residents-who-used-snapchat-eligible-for-payout-from-35-million-settlement/

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21:29 TR Bot; Illinois residents who used Snapchat eligible for payout from $35 million settlement

21:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Writing an article about Mr. GULAG and deplatforming.

21:31 DaemonFC; "It's bad enough that we have deplatform and censorship-state advocates living here in America already that we can't do anything about. (Including the current leadership at Mozilla, which is going down in flames and in a few more years won't even register in browser statistics anymore.) Why do we want more?"

21:33 DaemonFC; "Matthew Garrett uses Twitter, a system and mechanism for the surveillance state and the Cancel mobs. He also uses "Dreamwidth" to host his blog."

21:33 DaemonFC; "In both cases, you can't even read him without "JavaScript" enabled in your browser, which causes hideous security problems and a gigantic additional attack surface, unless you use a proxy like Nitter to keep an eye on him."

21:36 DaemonFC; "The latest un-American activity, and that is what I would call petitions to deplatform over simple disagreement, involves "petitioning" Crimeflare (Cloudflare, an attack on people who browse securely/anonymously.) to take down Conservative Web forums."

21:40 DaemonFC; "The reason it's possible to do so much damage by convincing companies like these to disappear Web sites that you disagree with is that Web sites have made the unfortunate mistake to rely on them for DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) protection in the first place. Which is ironic."

21:40 DaemonFC; "Nobody can say for sure where the DDoS activities that led these Web sites to use Cloudflare are coming from. Since DDoS attacks are an extralegal and illegal method to "shut people up", we must presume that the people committing them at least fundamentally agree with the people who are also petitioning Cloudflare to remove the protection, and that there may be overlap where some of the individuals are the same."

21:42 psydroid2; I hope you mention the existence of boundaries somewhere in one of your articles

21:43 psydroid2; those are much more important than Restricted Boot, DRM, TPM, Pluton and malware running on that hardware

21:48 DaemonFC; mjg59_ probably counts giving Rat Crap (IBM) an excuse to defund GNU.

21:48 DaemonFC; Simply because it damages GNU and makes them weaker.

21:49 DaemonFC; *counts it as a victory

21:50 DaemonFC; His only real goal seems to be to cause trouble by using wedge issues and a lot of hyperbole.

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21:50 DaemonFC; Which is what Internet Trolls do.

21:51 DaemonFC; I wonder who is running the DDoS attacks against Kiwi Farms that led them to use "DDoS protection".

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21:51 DaemonFC; The evidence that Kiwi Farms has "caused" any suicides is flimsy.

21:52 DaemonFC; It's literally just that someone posted on Wikipedia that some crazy person that self-immolated was "driven" to it by Kiwi Farms, but if there was actual evidence, that would be a serious crime.

21:52 DaemonFC; Under federal and state law. Joshua Moon could be arrested under Florida's cyberbullying law if this allegation had any legs.

21:55 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/freaky-2

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21:55 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Freaky

21:59 DaemonFC; "It's difficult to get anything, ultimately, removed from the Internet, because it can always pop back up someplace else, even if it goes underground."


10 PM, August 25

22:00 DaemonFC; "So if Matthew Garrett found a Djinn and it granted him a bunch of wishes, and one was to get people like Joshua Moon deplatformed from GULAG (Google), Crimeflare (Cloudflare), Shitter (Twiiter), Fakebook, and the rest, the really dangerous ones would just come back as Tor Hidden Services and it would be much more difficult for law enforcement to keep track of them."

22:00 DaemonFC; "But Garrett doesn't mind that, I think. What the Cancel Mob really wants to do is to Crimethink all Conservative and Libertarian political views by way of a sustained harassment campaign."

22:01 DaemonFC; He goes after legitimate politcal discourse and free speech.

22:01 DaemonFC; And still I don't see him concerned that Cloudflare is hosting the Taliban.

22:01 DaemonFC; They're an unrecognized government because they're a terrorist group.

22:02 DaemonFC; Even their promises to only treat (actual) women harshly to an extent were violated months later.

22:08 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/25/coroner-releases-identity-of-26-year-old-man-who-died-after-being-shot-by-police-in-waukegan/

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22:08 TR Bot; Coroner releases identity of 26-year-old man who died after being shot by police in Waukegan

22:08 DaemonFC; Waukegan Police Kill Jesus

22:14 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/25/3-juveniles-hospitalized-1-flown-with-life-threatening-injuries-after-crash-on-route-31-in-mchenry/

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22:14 TR Bot; 3 juveniles hospitalized, 1 flown with life-threatening injuries, after crash on Route 31 in McHenry

22:14 MinceR; :)

22:14 DaemonFC; If you get into any sort of car accident here, you're getting a ticket.

22:16 *starstreak is watching "Cheech and Chong - Up in Smoke"

22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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22:52 starstreak; https://www.pine64.org/2022/06/28/june-update-who-likes-risc-v/

↺ https://www.pine64.org/2022/06/28/june-update-who-likes-risc-v/

22:52 TR Bot; June Update: Who likes RISC-V? | PINE64

22:52 DaemonFC; <starstreak> * DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) <-- the trash took itself out

22:52 DaemonFC; Fuck off

22:53 loner; weird

22:53 loner; anyway

22:53 souseksi; DaemonFC: starstreak: Please don't quarrel.

22:54 loner; could anyone recommend a tiny libc, which can be compiled/linked/assembled with tcc-toolchain (AS=arm-tcc for example)?

22:54 starstreak; souseksi, i have him on ignore due to transgender ignorance

22:55 techuser; SJW issues?

22:55 techuser; it is good you don't have +o

22:56 souseksi; starstreak: Taken into consideration.

22:57 starstreak; ignore is good enough

22:59 starstreak; i wouldn't ban him unless he evaded ignore by changing nicks often

22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 75.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 150.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.08


11 PM, August 25

23:01 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/08/25/1119385178/walmart-oregon-settlement-racial-profiling

↺ https://www.npr.org/2022/08/25/1119385178/walmart-oregon-settlement-racial-profiling

23:01 TR Bot; A Black man was awarded $4.4 million after being racially profiled in Walmart : NPR

23:01 DaemonFC; They don't say whether it's Sr. or Jr., but either way they have an extensive record with the courts in Oregon.

23:03 starstreak; that being said, he makes the channel look bad with all his racism and transphobia, im surprised he isnt banned

23:03 DaemonFC; "Mr. Mangum was never stopped by Walmart's Asset Protection. He interfered with our associates as they were surveilling and then stopped confirmed shoplifters, and then refused to leave despite being asked to repeatedly by our staff and Multnomah County, Ore., deputies," he added.

23:03 starstreak; i was told that talk about reptilians makes the channel look bad but apparently racism and transphobia are okay

23:04 DaemonFC; Walmart should just close the doors to their store and make everyone order things online.

23:05 DaemonFC; It's gotta be cheaper than all of the shoplifting and newly-minted black millionaires who were engaging in criminal trespass and harassment of Loss Prevention.

23:05 starstreak; after my iphone dies, im probably going to get something like this: https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/

↺ https://www.pine64.org/pinephonepro/

23:05 TR Bot; PinePhone Pro | PINE64

23:06 souseksi; starstreak: I wish you a pleasant shopping.

23:06 starstreak; :)

23:11 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0

23:11 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0

↺ https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0

23:11 TR Bot; timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0 )

↺ https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0

23:15 souseksi; starstreak: I didn't watch a video, but preview looks very funny.

23:19 starstreak; its a satire video about linux users

23:19 souseksi; Taken into consideration.

23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-24.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-25.gmi

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23:20 souseksi; Thank you for providing information.

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23:24 starstreak; No prob lol

23:25 s98259; o.o

23:25 *s98259 gives starstreak a hamper of chocolates

23:26 *s98259 gives souseksi a hamper of chocolates

23:26 s98259; hi

23:26 s98259; :3

23:26 starstreak; yay thanks :)

23:26 techuser; hi

23:26 *s98259 gives techuser a hamper of chocolates

23:26 starstreak; hi helenah

23:26 s98259; Hi :3

23:26 souseksi; Hello. Thanks for chocolates.

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23:29 s98259; yw

23:29 s98259; :3

23:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm also writing about the "student loan forgiveness" and how terribly unfair this all is.

23:31 DaemonFC; After the government and my parents ensured that I would be ruined for life no matter what I tried to do.

23:32 starstreak; https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238

↺ https://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238

23:32 TR Bot; Larry Ellison's Oracle Started As a CIA Project

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23:33 souseksi; starstreak: Thank you for sharing an article that might be interesting.

23:35 starstreak; thanks its pretty good

23:36 DaemonFC; "The people who went into debt to take on student loans are very different people than I am. They typically fall into two categories.

23:36 DaemonFC; Category 1 are people like a guy I dated who racked up $20,000 in student loan debt to study Political Science and works a gig job DoorDash while moonlighting as a hotel desk clerk. At least, thats last I knew. He cant even hold onto these jobs, but hes one of those people with a lot of student loan money who is totally unemployable for much more than whatever the minimum wage is.

23:36 DaemonFC; They keep getting rid of him at that, and he goes to find something else to do, but the $20,000 Political Science crap never helped him make a single dollar. In fact, he owed so many people so much delinquent debt, that he had to do business in cash without a bank account so nobody could garnish him, he had no furniture in his apartment by the time I managed to look inside it, and there was a safe on top of the kitchen counter.

23:36 DaemonFC; Since he took on a FAFSA to go to University of Wisconsin-Parkside, youve already paid to enable him if youre an American taxpayer, but now Biden will wipe out the rest of the $20,000 and make you pay for that too. And theres a lot more where he came from.

23:36 DaemonFC; Even in the 1990s, we had a neighbor whose son was named Lynn. Lynn had a degree in Philosophy, and we used to see Lynn putting his degree to good use, when we went to the movie theater, where he worked for $4.25 an hour as an usher sweeping popcorn off the floor and checking tickets."

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23:43 DaemonFC; "Category 2 is people who did well in school, chose a degree where they'll actually get a career that doesn't involve flipping burgers and delivering pizzas (there's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't need a college degree), and are probably making six figure salaries."

23:44 DaemonFC; "In other words, they simply just do not need our help. Case Closed."

23:44 DaemonFC; "If Biden gave a damn about Public Policy, he wouldn't be taking money from people who go to work and pay their taxes and handing it to losers and people who don't even need the help and are in highly paid careers where they can afford to pay back their loans."

23:45 DaemonFC; "What's worse is that there's no law passed by Congress that allows any of this. He never even pretended there was one."

23:45 DaemonFC; "He did his debt forgiveness to people who went to colleges that cheated them and are being prosecuted by the Department of Justice first and separately, because that's the only debt forgiveness that is authorized by statute."

23:47 DaemonFC; "This next phase creates an unauthorized entitlement for which no enabling law or appropriated money exists. It will cost us $362 billion, which is more than $2,000 debt added to the plate of every American who actually pays taxes. Someone is also likely to sue over this to stop it, and let us all hope that they succeed! "

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