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00:00 gorq; whats the difference?
00:02 MinceR; neither
00:02 MinceR; it works normally, like most shells
00:12 gorq; what should i use zswap or zram?
00:12 gorq; shouldn't they be the merged?
00:13 gorq; ZSH must be sh compressed?
00:13 gorq; has most rhings with Z are about compression
00:14 MinceR; \_()_/
00:14 MinceR; pretty sure zsh has nothing to do with zswap and zram
00:14 gorq; yes
00:14 MinceR; iirc the author named zsh after someone's username they thought would be a good name for a shell
00:15 gorq; the original shell is sh
00:16 MinceR; that is known
00:17 gorq; sh is just short fro shell
00:17 MinceR; water is wet
00:18 gorq; so ZSH must be ziped shell
00:19 gorq; BASH must be bourne again shell
00:33 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/AMVUFXc.mp4
00:34 gorq; why?
00:34 gorq; you got cat script?
00:36 gorq; Elon Musk's child tells court she no longer wants 'to be related' to her dad
00:37 gorq; she must buy an apple phone then
00:37 gorq; even so it might not workout
00:38 gorq; https://imgur.com/gallery/TNUxNAQ
00:38 TR Bot; perfect travel companion - Album on Imgur
00:40 gorq; https://imgur.com/gallery/4n9FCr8 - MinceR in the shower after a night out
00:40 TR Bot; in the shower - Album on Imgur
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00:42 *psydruid sees some more shitposting by non-regulars
00:43 MinceR; no cat script
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00:54 matey; <MinceR> the war crimes are only relevant if someone with the power is actually willing to invade orcland, cripple their warmaking capabilities, arrest putler and all UR members and punish them for their crimes <MinceR> it's pointless to talk about war crimes much if the people who could do something about it are unwilling to do so
00:54 matey; god no
00:54 matey; its vital to the historical record
00:54 matey; even on the offchance that someone learns from it
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00:55 matey; i mean its too late to do anything for stallman or the fsf too (still less than warcrimes)
00:55 matey; but the story at least has to be told
00:56 matey; even challenged and with the more bullshit parts commented on for the sake of accuracy and context
00:56 matey; for smaller things than warcrimes, so certainly for warcrimes as well
00:56 matey; sometimes people do learn from them
00:56 matey; if not right away, then later
00:57 matey; someitmes the people doing the fighting you think should happen are the ones who learn from them
00:57 matey; regardless of the people who should be fighting now
00:57 matey; vietnam could have dragged on for more years, more deaths
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00:57 matey; more torture, more ecological destruction
00:58 matey; but people reporting the war crimes helped it end
00:58 matey; not as quickly as it should have, but more quickly than it might have
00:58 matey; so yeah, theres a purpose to talking about war crimes
00:58 matey; it would be nice if there were more purpose, but theres definitely purpose
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00:59 matey; <XRevan86> The problem is that a lot of the war crimes are more-of-the-same, so one stops paying attention. <- its rare that people even care this much
01:00 matey; when george and tony did similar to iraq, people cared even less
01:00 matey; gene simmons of kiss was ashamed of people who didnt think it was GREAT SHIT
01:00 matey; he wouldnt be the first israeli to support war crimes (well he wouldnt)
01:01 matey; whoo yeah! palestinian casualties, WOOOOOO!
01:01 matey; GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED!
01:01 MinceR; 22 015442 < matey> its vital to the historical record
01:01 MinceR; 22 015455 < matey> even on the offchance that someone learns from it
01:01 MinceR; i doubt there will be a historical record if vladolf gets what he wants
01:02 MinceR; and one thing that makes humans humans is that most of them don't learn from anything, ever
01:02 matey; i doubt he will get what he wants
01:02 matey; unless he wants to die slowly and painfully, poisoned by his own people
01:02 matey; im not saying theres no risk
01:02 matey; hell, theres always a risk
01:03 matey; they may already be poisoning him gradually
01:03 MinceR; if humans learned, we wouldn't see a global resurgence of fascism now
01:03 matey; "oh hes looking very ill"
01:04 matey; at least a few people probably want him to do what hes doing
01:04 matey; and the others? who knows
01:04 matey; either way hes gone off the rails at the expense of russia
01:05 matey; and russians have a finite tolerance for this sort of failure, even at the top
01:06 matey; people who say this is stalin all over again, who i dont necessarily disagree with
01:06 matey; should read about how that ended
01:07 matey; <schestowitz_TR> paying attention to toilet paper-on-shoe joke won't help <- i dont agree with this either
01:07 matey; stupid jokes have played a role (i mean i doubt putting comedians on the front lines would be useful, nor would i pretend they were as important) in the darkest chapters of human history
01:08 matey; some are cleverly stupid, others are just fucking dumb
01:08 matey; after 9/11 there was this serious discussion about when jokes could be told again
01:09 matey; like it was too serious for comedians to do any sort of comedy at all
01:09 matey; fortunately the onion was still awesome back then
01:09 matey; they were sort of on the front lines of comedy at that time, the first to be willing to laugh at something
01:09 matey; imagine if we had decided "okay, this is too bad, no more jokes anymore"
01:10 matey; presumably in wwii noel coward sang "dont lets be beastly to the germans"
01:10 matey; i love that song
01:10 matey; even if its propaganda
01:10 matey; which of course it is
01:11 matey; <schestowitz_TR> I reckon many US weapons nowadays have microchips in them that are imported from china <- that may be
01:11 matey; but the dod CAN fab their own
01:12 matey; maybe theyre willing to see how chinese chips fare in a place like iraq
01:12 matey; but if they were at war with china, maybe they wouldnt be so trusting
01:12 matey; i dont know how that shit works
01:12 matey; im sure war with china is never at the top of the list of what to do next
01:13 matey; i think most army guns work without microchips but i dont pretend to know much about that either
01:13 matey; i figured the anti-icbm arrays dont rely on chinese fabs, but thats just a guess
01:15 gorq; microchips made of paper that self destruct if they ear russian speech
01:15 MinceR; stalin managed to stay in power and commit crimes against humanity for 31 years
01:15 matey; microchips made of paper that self destruct if they ear russian speech <- i mean ukraine is blowing up russian tanks with weapons they got from the usa
01:15 gorq; because he didnt managed to stay alive longer
01:16 matey; so im not sure what that means
01:16 matey; maybe russians should talk to them
01:16 gorq; it mean not to let the technology to fall in the wrong hands
01:16 matey; oh
01:17 matey; its sort of win win for the weapons contractors
01:17 matey; they dont get tired of spending a percentage of their profits on new research and development
01:18 gorq; weapons contractors would hate papper chips couse they so cheep
01:18 matey; as long as the world is insane, they keep going to the bank
01:18 gorq; more bang for the bank
01:19 matey; the drone missiles have sony cameras <- japan is an ally iirc
01:19 MinceR; it is
01:19 matey; fuck knows how/why, but nonetheless
01:19 matey; better the devil you know?
01:19 matey; if you cant beat em, join em?
01:19 gorq; samsung cams are better
01:20 gorq; at least on phones
01:20 matey; i mean thats great if you want the missiles to do instagram filters on their targets
01:21 matey; <psydroid2> the worst part is that these AMD chips aren't that much faster than ARM chips with a fraction of the power consumption <- and the way the chipsets work these days, the amd chips probably arent much better supported than arm either
01:21 matey; though thats probably a slight exaggeration (getting slighter)
01:22 gorq; ARMy chips
01:24 matey; <MinceR> people in russia can download MICROS~1's and ibm's other OS, fedora, instead <- maybe sanctions will help microsoft get rid of some of their dead weight
01:24 matey; if that doesnt, maybe their installation policies will
01:25 MinceR; i doubt MICROS~1 sold a significant proportion of their licenses in orcland
01:25 MinceR; in general, not doing a lot of trade beyond energy and possibly food with just about anyone is one of orcland's big issues, afaict
01:25 MinceR; or rather, not exporting a lot
01:26 MinceR; but also not importing so much that anyone would particularly care
01:26 matey; i suppose you dont need russias new stalinist bullshit when you already make your own
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01:26 MinceR; people were spitballing ideas like that orcland could trade with red china instead of europe, but red china couldn't sustain itself with trading only with orcland but not with the west
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01:27 matey; maybe the russian elite found someone they like better than putin
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01:27 matey; so theyre like "here, destroy yourself, have fun"
01:28 matey; im not making them the good guys, but they cant ALL be as stupid as he is
01:28 MinceR; the orcish elite is being hit hard, afaik
01:28 MinceR; many of them lost access to a lot of assets they held in the west
01:28 matey; well a little karma is good for the world
01:28 matey; not to make light of the terrible price
01:29 matey; russia hates going too many decades without a collapse
01:29 MinceR; :>
01:29 matey; im being cynical, i actually like russians
01:29 matey; but you dont have to tell them that being russian fucking sucks
01:30 matey; they kind of wrote the book on it
01:31 matey; i actually like russians <- not enough to hope they feel welcome in ukraine right now
01:31 matey; im serious about putting signs up showing the way out
01:31 matey; moscow 1500 mi kate said
01:31 MinceR; i think they did something of the sort already
01:32 matey; i think they did something of the sort already <- love it
01:32 matey; those could come in useful later
01:32 MinceR; this one doesn't seem too informative though >> https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/odessa-ukraine-road-sign-credit-twitter-shaun-walker.jpg
01:33 MinceR; "to dick", "again to dick", "to russia to dick"
01:33 matey; thats why you put locals in charge
01:33 matey; they know the culture
01:34 matey; things are so sterile when everything comes from the top
01:35 matey; https://libreplanet.org/wiki/LibrePlanet:Code_of_Conduct
01:35 TR Bot; LibrePlanet:About/Code of Conduct - LibrePlanet
01:36 matey; "to dick", "again to dick", "to russia to dick" <- violates the code of conduct!
01:36 matey; and also, who the fuck cares?
01:36 MinceR; :>
01:36 matey; [ insert george carlin routine ]
01:37 matey; i wouldnt have even thought of incorporating "dick" into signs taunting invading troops
01:37 matey; even if it seems obvious in hindsight
01:38 MinceR; "to dick" is a commonly used expletive phrase in russian and ukrainian, afaik
01:38 MinceR; apparently as common as "fuck" in english
01:38 matey; again, swhy you put locals in charge
01:39 matey; the word "fuck" as a word for everything is pretty hilarious imo from a linguistic standpoint
01:40 matey; but using "dick" that way is novel to my non-russian sensibilities, so i love that too
01:41 matey; i should say non-slavic
01:41 MinceR; :>
01:42 matey; LibrePlanet: Participate (To Dick)
01:43 matey; theres an entire decision tree of jokes that can be made there
01:43 matey; but none of them lead to victory so
01:44 matey; and the lp people are too humourless to make them in public
01:46 MinceR; :>
01:46 MinceR; actually i could have been more specific, it's "onto dick"
01:46 MinceR; (as opposed to "into dick")
01:46 matey; i interpreted "to" as either "towards" or "for the purpose of"
01:47 matey; which is actually pretty funny
01:47 matey; but "onto" works too, it actually seems much less foreign
01:47 MinceR; :>
01:48 matey; theres a weird sketch dutch west did called "old men and leftovers"
01:48 matey; about these two old men that do voiceovers
01:49 matey; and theyre having a pissing match about all the celebrities they supposedly fucked
01:49 matey; one implying that he did one of the baldwins, "so stephen could be mine"
01:49 matey; they keep saying "with his dick?" as a sort of punchline
01:50 matey; without the invasion of the ukraine, i cant imagine how that could ever be even remotely relevant here
01:50 matey; also i dont know how it became "the" ukraine
01:50 matey; maybe its infamous
01:50 matey; the canada
01:50 matey; the mexico, the spain
01:51 matey; dutch west is probably best known for a dance video they did to "september" by earth wind and fire
01:52 gorq; the maldives
01:52 matey; they also did a sketch where the son is thinking of enlisting in the army for college money, so the mom decides to mess with his head until he relents
01:53 matey; ill leave the details out of that one, but clever idea
01:53 gorq; i8 enlisted the us army to play a video game
01:54 matey; yeah thats a thing now i guess
01:54 gorq; even thou im not a citizen
01:54 gorq; i was a virtual recruit
01:55 matey; i mean ive known people from malaysia who were working so closely with american armed forces that ti wouldnt have mattered
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02:02 MinceR; 22 024955 < matey> they keep saying "with his dick?" as a sort of punchline
02:02 MinceR; reminds me of appending "in bed" to random phrases
02:02 matey; yes
02:03 matey; the fortune cookie trick
02:03 MinceR; the netherlands
02:03 matey; "you will live in interesting times"
02:03 matey; "in bed"
02:03 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Etymology_and_orthography
02:03 TR Bot; Ukraine - Wikipedia
02:06 matey; one of the two guys in the video went on to do a series spoofing honey boo boo with the (wonderful) comedienne who played the mom in the army enlistment video
02:06 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Myo_5KYx_YI
02:06 TR Bot; Precious Plum for President! | See Plum Run [Full Episode] - Invidious
02:16 TR News; Manipulating the display backlight from the shell gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-06-21_bashbrightness.gmi
02:16 TR News; Use a gamepad to control mpv video playback gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/mpv-gamepad.gmi
02:17 AdmFubar; https://blog.aquasec.com/github-app-tokens
02:17 TR Bot; GitHub Bug Allowed Third-party Apps to Gain Elevated Permissions
02:17 matey; <MinceR> made from Linux (controlled by the Linux-Destroying Foundation, owned by corporations like MICROS~1 and ibm), systemd (controlled by ibm and based on MICROS~1 design principles), gnome (also controlled by ibm)
02:18 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D269.jpg
02:18 matey; i dont doubt it, but wheres the ibm connection (other than systemd)
02:18 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D620.jpg
02:19 matey; <gorq> do you think users are changing back to bash from zsh because of the Z?
02:19 matey; CANCEL ZED!
02:19 matey; Dr. Roy Schestowit
02:20 matey; /me uses pdksh, should be fine unless poland invades somewhere
02:22 MinceR; 22 031811 < matey> i dont doubt it, but wheres the ibm connection (other than systemd)
02:22 MinceR; LDF, gnome, fedora itself
02:22 MinceR; what's the connection between pdksh and poland?
02:23 MinceR; the manpage suggests pdksh is simply "public domain Korn shell"
02:23 TR News; The Impermanence Of Architecture gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1026
02:24 TR News; SpellBinding AZILOPE Wordo: ADDED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-21.gmi
02:24 matey; i just looked at "pdksh" and thought it looked like something written in polish
02:24 MinceR; :>
02:24 MinceR; and cshrc is a town in bosnia?
02:24 matey; why not?
02:25 matey; "bash" is an insult in croatia
02:25 TR News; "I found out about the Midnight looking up a list of capsules to get started with Gemini, and this might just be the friendliest I've ever seen the internet be!" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1027
02:26 matey; if we cancel zed we should also cancel vee
02:26 matey; replace all instances of v with u
02:26 matey; like roman monuments, but the other way
02:27 matey; (this almost makes w highly suspect, but as long as its Double YOO its okay)
02:28 TR News; Mixxx 2.3.3 DJ Software Brings Improvements for Pioneer DDJ-SB3 and Traktor S3 Controllers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166315
02:28 TR Bot; Mixxx 2.3.3 DJ Software Brings Improvements for Pioneer DDJ-SB3 and Traktor S3 Controllers | Tux Machines
02:30 matey; we could be proactive and just get rid of straight lines in writing altogether
02:31 matey; but then how will we hand mincer a straight line?
02:32 MinceR; i'm sure ruscists would just use those squigglies as a swastika then
02:32 TR News; How the Eypsultan district of Turkey uses GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166316
02:33 TR Bot; How the Eypsultan district of Turkey uses GNU/Linux | Tux Machines
02:33 matey; 8
02:33 matey; /me gasps
02:33 matey; cancel 8!
02:33 TR News; It's solstice and I can start seeing some sky light outside at 2:34
02:34 MinceR; "it's solstice eve and it's scary"... wait, that's for the other solstice.
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-210622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-210622.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, June 21, 2022
02:36 matey; /me thinks halloween should be politicians dressing up as real people and everyone else throwing candy at them
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02:37 TR News; Researchers disclose 56 vulnerabilities impacting thousands of OT devices - Help Net Security https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/06/21/vulnerabilities-ot-devices-icefall/ Source: helpnetsecurity
02:37 TR Bot; Researchers disclose 56 vulnerabilities impacting thousands of OT devices - Help Net Security
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02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-21.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-21.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:47 TR News; "Part steadfast approach - part welcoming spirirt; Collabora continues to successfully expand with new talent amply on deck. Well ahead of the remote work curve, our new joiners have settled into their roles from their respective corners of the planet." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/adding-even-more-heads-for-group-picture.html
02:47 TR Bot; Adding even more heads for the group picture
02:51 TR News; "I am trying to contact Francis van Dun (FVANDUN on cpan) for permission to relicense Net::DHCP to the MIT license." http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/trying-to-contact-francis-van-dun-fvandun.html
02:51 TR Bot; to contact Francis van Dun (FVANDUN) | dean [blogs.perl.org]
02:55 TR News; "The Chrome team is delighted to announce he promotion of Chrome 103 to the stable channel for Windows,Mac and Linux.This will roll out over the coming days/weeks." https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/06/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_21.html
02:55 TR Bot; Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop
02:56 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166317
02:56 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
02:56 TR News; Why Ubuntu Isnt a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166318
02:56 TR Bot; Why Ubuntu Isn't a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore | Tux Machines
02:56 TR News; Linux Lite 6.0 Released, Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166319
02:56 TR Bot; Linux Lite 6.0 Released, Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines
02:56 TR News; Meet Chris Hildenbrand, the artist behind the winning Inkscape 1.2 About Screen Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166320
02:56 TR Bot; Meet Chris Hildenbrand, the artist behind the winning Inkscape 1.2 About Screen | Tux Machines
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03:00 TR News; Canadaian GP warmed up at the end gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-06-22_Canadaian_GP_warmed_up_at_the_end.gmi
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03:07 TR News; EPO PR event again in France/Monaco. What's wrong's with it? See http://techrights.org/2020/04/21/french-epo-budget/ puff piece: https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2022/20220621.html
03:07 TR Bot; France Keeps Winning European Inventor Award (Millions of Euros of EPO Budget) | Techrights
03:07 TR Bot; EPO - All the winners: European Inventor Award 2022
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03:33 TR News; Hallmark of Bribery and Graft: The French EPO President Gives European Inventor Award to France Again (3rd Time in 6 Years) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/european-inventor-award-graft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/european-inventor-award-graft/
03:33 TR Bot; Hallmark of Bribery and Graft: The French EPO President Gives European Inventor Award to France Again (3rd Time in 6 Years) | Techrights
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03:34 techrights_guest|20; Hello
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03:34 Guest16; Hello
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03:47 schestowitz_TR; hi Guest16
03:47 Guest16; Hello
03:47 schestowitz_TR; new here?
03:47 Guest16; Yes
03:48 schestowitz_TR; it's quiet around this time
03:48 Guest16; I have a WebSocket IRC server, could I connect my relay to this network and relay one or two channels that aren't used on this network, by chance?
03:48 schestowitz_TR; let me see if I get thgis right:
03:49 schestowitz_TR; you want to set up a channel here
03:49 schestowitz_TR; and then relay that to another network
03:49 TR News; [Meme] Rewarding Crooks With Public Relations and Marketing at the EPOs Expense (European Inventor Award) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/microsoft-marketing-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/21/microsoft-marketing-epo/
03:49 TR Bot; [Meme] Rewarding Crooks With Public Relations and Marketing at the EPOs Expense (European Inventor Award) | Techrights
03:54 TR News; Petition for ministerial conference on European Patent Organisation http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/06/17/petition-for-ministerial-conference-on-european-patent-organisation/
03:54 TR Bot; Petition for ministerial conference on European Patent Organisation - Kluwer Patent Blog
03:55 AdmFubar; https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Internet-Explorer-shutdown-to-cause-Japan-headaches-for-months
03:55 TR Bot; Internet Explorer shutdown to cause Japan headaches 'for months' - Nikkei Asia
03:56 Guest16; schestowitz_TR: Yes
03:56 schestowitz_TR; I don't see why now
03:56 schestowitz_TR; which channel would it be?
03:56 Guest16; Like #spam and #qemu
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03:57 Guest16; I already have channels on my network, but my network is difficult to connect to.
03:58 schestowitz_TR; I see
03:58 schestowitz_TR; so you want people to use ours for access and then bridge it across?
03:58 Guest16; If they won't go to the work of connecting to https://solanum.9pfs.repl.co/ (Which takes a lot of work to connect to), then they'd at least have an alternative.
03:58 TR Bot; Kiwi IRC
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 239.06
03:59 schestowitz_TR; Guest16: sure, go for it
04:00 Guest16; Okay
04:00 Guest16; How would I register an account using this network's services?
04:01 schestowitz; /motd
04:01 Guest16; Okay
04:01 Guest16; Does this server require verification?
04:02 schestowitz; email iirc
04:02 schestowitz; then you can register further
04:02 Guest16; Okay
04:02 schestowitz; or I could register them now
04:02 schestowitz; someone recently killed off a whole channel by deregistering the nickname
04:04 Guest16; How do I get email verification to work?
04:04 Guest16; I haven't received a verification email.
04:05 schestowitz_TR; I'm not sure you need to
04:05 Guest16; Oh
04:05 schestowitz_TR; /msg NickServ register mySecretPassword validEmailAddress@example.com
04:05 schestowitz_TR; just specify an address
04:06 schestowitz_TR; manual: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ergoirc-manuals.txt
04:06 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, June 21, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:06 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:06 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:06 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:07 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166321
04:07 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
04:13 Guest16; Could you op my bot on #qemu ?
04:13 Guest16; [8:13:11 PM] pylink-_9pfs has joined
04:14 Guest16; Never mind
04:16 schestowitz_TR; ok
04:18 TR News; "as a relative new comer to Gemini, Im confused about what happened to the mailing list. is there a good write up of the drama anywhere?" gemini://geddit.glv.one/s/494
04:20 TR News; "The price of diesel has reached 1.90 per litre (about $9 per US gallon), food prices are way up, the economy seems to be heading for a period of stagflation, the UK government is destroying the constitutional checks and balances on its actions, Russia is making gains in eastern Ukraine" gemini://rochelimit.uk/gemlog.gmi
04:20 Guest16; My #qemu channel is a Linux virtual machine with its terminal accessible via IRC (and network access).
04:20 TR News; 2022-06-22 Locrian.Zone: THE STORY OF THE INEXPERIENCED GHOST added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Inexperienced_Ghost.gmi
04:21 schestowitz_TR; Guest16: good that you do not rely on very large networks
04:21 schestowitz_TR; we saw what can happen to them 12 months ago
04:21 Guest16; Why is that good?
04:21 schestowitz_TR; *13 even
04:21 Guest16; Oh.
04:22 schestowitz_TR; people assume it's "free"
04:22 Guest16; I do use large networks, I just don't link my relay to them because of SASL issues.
04:22 schestowitz_TR; until even "FREE"node is not
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04:22 schestowitz_TR; SASL is against the concept of IRC
04:22 Guest16; Reminds me, I was working on a shell script to join #freenode on that network and start flooding.
04:22 Guest16; It won't work, could someone help?
04:23 schestowitz_TR; freenode changed last year
04:23 Guest16; ( cat ping-fifo|grep PING|sed s/PING/PONG/|tee /dev/stderr & sleep 28; echo "USER abcd abcd abcd abcd"; echo "NICK abcd"; sleep 5; echo "JOIN #freenode" ; sleep 80; yes "PRIVMSG #freenode :I am an IRC bot, coming to eat Freenode" ; sleep 3; echo "QUIT :Bye" ) | ncat irc.freenode.net 6667 | tee ping-fifo
04:23 Guest16; ping-fifo is a named pipe
04:23 schestowitz_TR; freenode keeps changing, too
04:23 schestowitz_TR; they are not sure what they want to do with the thin
04:23 schestowitz_TR; *thing
04:24 schestowitz_TR; my prediction is that freenode might not even survive until next year
04:24 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2022/05/19/leenode-birthday/
04:24 TR Bot; A Libera.Chat Anniversary and Happy Birthday (Maybe the Last) to Leenode | Techrights
04:25 TR News; European Inventor Award is little but a graft opportunity and a way to bribe nations (money in exchange for special favours); its also a way to reward questionable people, dismantle the notion of patent neutrality, and pass bribes to a lot of European publishers that might otherwise expose EPO corruption http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/european-inventor-award-graft/
04:25 TR Bot; Hallmark of Bribery and Graft: The French EPO President Gives European Inventor Award to France Again (3rd Time in 6 Years) | Techrights
04:25 TR News; The EPO lies about financial deficits while spending nearly $100,000,000 on more than a decade of problematic "awards" that occasionally glorify massive frauds http://techrights.org/2022/06/21/microsoft-marketing-epo/
04:26 TR Bot; [Meme] Rewarding Crooks With Public Relations and Marketing at the EPOs Expense (European Inventor Award) | Techrights
04:29 TR News; Mass surveillance enabler https://www.maketecheasier.com/embedded-sim-esim-explained/
04:29 TR Bot; What Is eSIM and Who Can Use It? - Make Tech Easier
04:30 Guest16; Is it dangerous to link a channel to Freenode?
04:31 schestowitz_TR; no
04:31 TR News; Clonezilla 3.0.1-8 https://clonezilla.org/
04:31 TR Bot; Clonezilla - About
04:31 Guest16; I just linked my #qemu channel to #9pfs-qemu on freenode
04:32 schestowitz_TR; they have weird and fast-changing policies
04:33 schestowitz_TR; they disenfranchised thousand of channelss last year
04:33 schestowitz_TR; without notice
04:33 schestowitz_TR; that network is run by a weedhead
04:34 Guest16; Could I sync this channel with my network using my PyLink relay?
04:35 schestowitz_TR; I suppose...
04:35 Guest16; My bot would need +o for at least 3 seconds.
04:35 Guest16; Otherwise, it wouldn't connect.
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04:37 schestowitz_TR; wait
04:37 Guest16; This is what it does otherwise.
04:37 Guest16; [8:37:45 PM] <_9pfs> remote techrights link solanum #techrights
04:37 Guest16; [8:37:45 PM] [NOTICE] Error: Please op the bot in '#techrights' to complete this operation.
04:38 Guest16; Once it is +o, it'll work, but it won't send messages if it isn't when it starts syncing the first time.
04:38 schestowitz_TR; I am not channel operator in the channels you set up
04:39 Guest16; I set them up, they're working
04:39 schestowitz_TR; oh, you want op here?
04:40 Guest16; My bot needs to be +o at least once, or it won't let me add a link entry.
04:40 *schestowitz gives channel operator status to pylink-_9pfs
04:40 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - Netjoin gained users: _9pfs
04:40 Guest16; I think it should work now
04:40 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Hello
04:40 *schestowitz removes channel operator status from pylink-_9pfs
04:40 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I see 52 users now, should I?
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Here's my network map
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:52 PM] solanum.repl[9PF] -------------------------------- | Users: 3 ( 3.2%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] |- solanum2.repl[9A0] --------------------------- | Users: 1 ( 1.1%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | |- services.solanum2.repl[678] -------------- | Users: 17 (18.3%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | `- pylink.solanum.repl[0PY] ----------------- | Users: 1 ( 1.1%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | |- freenode.relay.pylink.solanum.repl[802 | Users: 1 ( 1.1%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | |- techrights.relay.pylink.solanum.repl[8 | Users: 50 (53.8%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] | `- libreirc.relay.pylink.solanum.repl[800 | Users: 2 ( 2.2%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:53 PM] `- services.solanum.repl[677] ------------------- | Users: 18 (19.4%)
04:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> [8:40:54 PM] End of /MAP
04:41 TR News; Giving up on GNOME To Do Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166322
04:41 TR Bot; Giving up on GNOME To Do | Tux Machines
04:42 schestowitz_TR; GNUmoon2: just make it a little less verbose pls
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04:43 TR News; Linux Plumbers Conference: Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: CPU Isolation https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/22/microconferences-at-linux-plumbers-conference-cpu-isolation/
04:43 TR Bot; Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: CPU Isolation Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
04:44 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I was making sure remote users wouldn't be +o on this network, sorry
04:44 TR News; Waitlist https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/22/registration-still-sold-out-but-there-is-now-a-waitlist/
04:44 TR Bot; Registration Still Sold Out, But There is Now a Waitlist Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
04:44 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - Notice from @ChanServ: _9pfs set flags +AORVefiorstv on $server:pylink.solanum.repl
04:44 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - ChanServ (ChanServ@services.solanum.repl) sets mode +o _9pfs-PyLink on #techrights
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> &help
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; PyLink provides extended network services for IRC.
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; Available commands include: autoconnect, chandesc, checkban, checkbanre, chghost, chgident, chgname, claim, clearqueue, create, delink, destroy, disconnect, echo, forcetag, help, identify, jupe, kick, kill, link, linkacl, linked, list, load, localmap, loglevel, logout, map, massban, massbanre, masskill, masskillre, mkpasswd, mode, modedelta, purge, raw, rehash, reload, reloadproto, remote, rpm, save, showchan, shownet, showuser, shutdown,
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; status, topic, unload, version
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; To see help on a specific command, type help <command>.
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> &rehash
04:45 pylink-_9pfs; Done.
04:48 TR News; Ubuntu Core 22 Brings Real-time Compute Support for IoT Industrial Applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166053#comment-34098
04:48 TR Bot; Canonical Releases Ubuntu Core 22 for IoT, Edge and Embedded Devices | Tux Machines
04:48 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I hope my relay's not annoying
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> &help
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; PyLink provides extended network services for IRC.
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; Available commands include: autoconnect, chandesc, checkban, checkbanre, chghost, chgident, chgname, claim, clearqueue, create, delink, destroy, disconnect, echo, forcetag, help, identify, jupe, kick, kill, link, linkacl, linked, list, load, localmap, loglevel, logout, map, massban, massbanre, masskill, masskillre, mkpasswd, mode, modedelta, purge, raw, rehash, reload, reloadproto, remote, rpm, save, showchan, shownet, showuser, shutdown,
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; status, topic, unload, version
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; To see help on a specific command, type help <command>.
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> !help
04:50 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> !lottery
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04:51 TR News; 10 Best Kali Linux Tools for Hackers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166323
04:51 TR Bot; 10 Best Kali Linux Tools for Hackers | Tux Machines
04:54 TR News; </p></blockquote></li>
04:54 TR News; Discourses of climate delay https://idiomdrottning.org/discourses-of-climate-delay
04:54 TR Bot; Discourses of climate delay
04:55 Guest16; What? XSS?
04:57 TR News; "For many years, I was only a casual user of rsync and used it mostly for one-off file transfers. Over time, I found rsync useful in more and more cases, and would recommend every computer user put this great tool into their toolbox" https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-06-18-rsync-overview/
04:57 TR Bot; rsync: Series Overview - Michael Stapelberg
04:58 TR News; How Trustless Is Bitcoin, Really? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/06/science/bitcoin-nakamoto-blackburn-crypto.html
04:58 TR Bot; How Trustless Is Bitcoin, Really? - The New York Times
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 TR News; "Simple works best even for applications at planet scale (powering the internet). Why do Protocols Win? Even our most machine-oriented systems still have a human element to them. There's no guarantee that HTTP would have beat out other protocols if it were designed with full efficiency over practicality on day one." https://matt-rickard.com/the-power-of-plaintext-protocols/
04:59 TR Bot; The Power of Plaintext Protocols
05:00 TR News; "The intrusion comes amid heightened sensitivity around unlawful or unauthorized access to congressional buildings and came as the third public hearing by the House panel investigating the January 6 Capitol insurrection concluded." https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jun/18/stephen-colbert-staff-members-arrested-capitol-hill-robert-smigel
05:00 TR Bot; Stephen Colbert staff members arrested for trespassing on Capitol Hill | Stephen Colbert | The Guardian
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05:01 TR News; Why does Science News Suck So Much? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9Gn4rmQTZek Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
05:01 TR Bot; Why does Science News Suck So Much? - Invidious
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05:02 TR News; "Im thinking narrowly here. Not a corporate blog run by individuals and backed by an organization. And not an individual blog thats hosted on a platform, like Medium. Im asking, specifically, about an indie bloga blog written and run by an individual who owns the domain and controls their own content." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-message-and-medium-of-the-personal-blog/
05:02 TR Bot; The Message Behind the Medium of a Personal Blog - Jim Nielsens Blog
05:03 Guest16; What are these bots?
05:03 TR News; https://cacm.3D-Printed Acoustic Holograms Against Alzheimer's or Parkinson's acm.org/news/261090-3d-printed-acoustic-holograms-against-alzheimers-or-parkinsons/fulltext
05:03 TR Bot; not resolve host: cacm.3D-Printed; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://cacm.3D-Printed )
05:03 schestowitz_TR; which, techrights-news ?
05:04 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> All of them
05:04 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> They're confusing.
05:04 TR News; Masterclass in leadership https://michaelwest.com.au/the-great-sydney-university-grant-swindle/
05:04 TR Bot; The great Sydney University grant swindle - Michael West
05:05 schestowitz_TR; confusing in what sense?
05:05 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> They constantly send messages.
05:05 schestowitz_TR; that's how IRC worrrks
05:05 schestowitz_TR; we syndicate some news, curated manually
05:05 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> I thought IRC was for people, not bots.
05:05 schestowitz_TR; and so on and so forth
05:05 schestowitz_TR; this time of the day is quiet
05:05 schestowitz_TR; so not many conversations
05:06 schestowitz_TR; it's not a bot per se
05:06 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Oh.
05:06 schestowitz_TR; techrights-news is not a bot really
05:06 schestowitz_TR; it's ii running in the command line and taking input that is site-related
05:07 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Could I put my own bots on my network that send content that is related to websites?
05:08 TR News; John Gruber has turned his blog into sponsorship spam when he's not doing advertising directly for Apple. I remember how blog being vastly more useful. Example: "My thanks to Rows for sponsoring this week at DF." (So the RSS feed itself is the ads) :/
05:09 schestowitz_TR; pylink-_9pfs: yes, if topics overlap
05:09 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> Okay.
05:10 TR News; "sortcanon.py is a tool to sort text files according to some canonicalization function. For example, sorting domains or ipv4 addresses. This is actually an old tool, that I still had to publish. I just updated it to Python 3." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/06/18/new-tool-sortcanon-py/
05:10 TR Bot; New Tool: sortcanon.py | Didier Stevens
05:10 TR News; 8 Ways to Prevent Replay Attacks How to Stop the Interception and Retransmission of Data https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/prevent-replay-attacks/ Source: privateinternetaccess
05:10 TR Bot; 8 Ways to Prevent Replay Attacks How to Stop the Interception and Retransmission of Data
05:11 TR News; Rubenerd: Cryptocurrency waste, in all senses of the word https://rubenerd.com/cryptocurrency-waste/ Source: rubenerd
05:11 TR Bot; Cryptocurrency waste, in all senses of the word
05:12 TR News; "Ive felt that for a few pieces of kit lately. I keep it around in the hopes that one day Ill skill up enough to work on them." https://rubenerd.com/cathode-ray-dude-on-retro-hardware-collecting/
05:12 TR Bot; Cathode Ray Dude on retro hardware collecting
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05:15 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <@_9pfs> What's the ipfs bot?
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06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:58 schestowitz_TR; GNUmoon2: the relay is just too verbose
06:58 schestowitz_TR; Guest1648: ^
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:59 Guest1648; My relay?
06:59 Guest1648; I could maybe change something on it
06:59 GNUmoon2; ?
06:59 schestowitz_TR; sorry, wrong autocomplete
06:59 GNUmoon2; NP :)
06:59 Guest1648; Not sure how, though. (Due to how PyLink works)
07:00 TR News; Linux rm command with Advance Syntax for Pros Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166324
07:00 TR Bot; Linux rm command with Advance Syntax for Pros | Tux Machines
07:02 TR News; "While the number of new security bulletins for IBM i is nowhere near what we see with Windows Server and Linux platforms, it has become a constant game of Whack-a-mole." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/22/ibm-i-ptf-guide-volume-24-number-25/
07:02 TR Bot; IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 24, Number 25 - IT Jungle
07:04 TR News; "In recent weeks, IBM has disclosed a handful of vulnerabilities in its IBM i operating system and related IBM i products, including Db2 Mirror, WebSphere, Navigator for i, the Java development and runtime tools, and OmniFind Text Search Server. IBM has shipped PTFs for the security problems, which range in severity from medium to high." https://www.itjungle.com/2022/06/22/multiple-security-vulnerabilities-patched-on-ibm-i/
07:04 TR Bot; Multiple Security Vulnerabilities Patched on IBM i - IT Jungle
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07:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I'm going to steal a line from Bob's Burgers and modify it a little.
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07:09 DaemonFC; I'm a lot like Navy Pier. Somehow I've made it almost 40 years without being sued into the ground or falling into the lake.
07:09 TR News; "Engineers build systems. Good engineers always stress and focus efficiency of these systems." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/06/19#038_faster_feedback_systems
07:09 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
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07:09 schestowitz_TR; Bob's Burger?
07:10 matey; tv show
07:10 TR News; FFSS, stop calling every computer program "HEY HI" https://www.inc.com/ben-sherry/artificial-intelligence-hospitality-industry.html
07:10 TR Bot; Ways A.I. Is Transforming the Hospitality Industry | Inc.com
07:11 TR News; Another example of overuse of the buzzwords/term "HEY HI" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/well/eat/ai-diet-personalized.html
07:11 TR Bot; Here Come the Artificial Intelligence Nutritionists - The New York Times
07:11 DaemonFC; They made a movie.
07:11 DaemonFC; We went to the movies all evening.
07:11 DaemonFC; I figure it was cheaper than running the air conditioner.
07:12 DaemonFC; It got up to like 120 degrees outside today with the heat index.
07:12 matey; Excuse me. I believe you meant to say "eldritch studmuffin". http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3800/fc03765.png
07:12 TR News; Comparing Local Kubernetes Development Solutions - Earthly Blog https://earthly.dev/blog/k8s-dev-solutions/ Source: earthly
07:12 TR Bot; Comparing Local Kubernetes Development Solutions - Earthly Blog
07:12 DaemonFC; The new Doctor Strange isn't bad either.
07:12 DaemonFC; Sam Raimi directed it.
07:12 schestowitz_TR; sounds like Manji almost
07:13 schestowitz_TR; or Ramji
07:13 matey; /me doesnt even know where a sqid learns the word "studmuffin" on a terreformed planet covered in robots
07:13 DaemonFC; You know, he did the Evil Dead series.
07:13 DaemonFC; Which was funny because part of the plot was Doctor Strange was stuck in a mirror universe and had to possess a corpse of himself.
07:14 matey; probably from the robots. they have internet.
07:14 TR News; Raspberry Pi 3A+ Mod Brings Double the RAM | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-3a-1-gb-ram-mod Source: tomshardware
07:14 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi 3A+ Mod Brings Double the RAM | Tom's Hardware
07:14 TR News; Raspberry Pi Retro Black and White TV Hack https://gizmodo.com/raspberry-pi-retro-black-and-white-tv-set-hack-youtube-1849088028 Source: gizmodo
07:14 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Retro Black and White TV Hack
07:15 TR News; Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility (Updated) | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/devterm-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-adapter Source: tomshardware
07:15 TR Bot; Clockwork's DevTerm Teases Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Compatibility (Updated) | Tom's Hardware
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07:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, This sort of heat is more like August.
07:22 DaemonFC; It gets really bad at the end of August and then it settles down.
07:22 DaemonFC; This is really not good for the corn and stuff.
07:23 DaemonFC; If it doesn't settle down soon then there might be crop loss due to the heat.
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07:49 Guest1648; Don't do this:
07:49 Guest1648; &masskill *!*@*
07:49 pylink-_9pfs; Error: You are missing one of the following permissions: opercmds.masskill
07:49 Guest1648; Wiped your entire server.
07:49 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> s/your/my/
07:50 matey; presumably this is an ircd specific thing
07:50 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> It's a PyLink command.
07:51 matey; and a bot shouldnt have the permissions
07:52 TR News; "In other news, my parents flew in last night only to find out when they arrived that they have COVID. We wore masks in the car and they are isolating in their room, so hopefully I will avoid catching it." gemini://sprock.dev/posts/not-dead.gmi
07:52 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> If you have a PyLink server connected to any network with the opercmds.masskill permission, your entire network and any connected networks will be wiped of users. (It can't do anything on your network, because my bot isn't +o anywhere (and shouldn't be))
07:52 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] <ChanServ219> my bot shouldn't be +o on anything it doesn't have to be because of me being that stupid.
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07:55 TR News; Legends start at 1.0! FreeBSD in 1993 (pt. 2) https://eerielinux.wordpress.com/2022/06/19/legends-start-at-1-0-freebsd-in-1993-pt-2/
07:55 TR Bot; Legends start at 1.0! FreeBSD in 1993 (pt. 2) | eerielinux
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07:57 TR News; TUIFI Manager: A file manager, in the terminal, with file icons made out of ascii characters. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/tuifi-manager-a-file-manager-in-the Source: lunduke
07:57 TR Bot; TUIFI Manager: A file manager, in the terminal, with file icons made out of ascii characters.
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08:00 TR News; The Historic Keweenaw Mountain Lodge Designated as Michigans Third International Dark Sky Park - International Dark-Sky Association https://www.darksky.org/the-historic-keweenaw-mountain-lodge-designated-as-michigans-third-international-dark-sky-park/ Source: darksky
08:00 TR Bot; The Historic Keweenaw Mountain Lodge Designated as Michigans Third International Dark Sky Park - International Dark-Sky Association
08:02 TR News; "Wikimedia Movement and the Free Knowledge Advocacy Group EU have the pleasure to invite you to a Monsters of Law event featuring First Advocate General of the Court of Justice of the European Union, Maciej Szpunar titled: New Technologies and Fundamental Rights." https://edri.org/take-action/events/new-technologies-and-fundamental-rights-monsters-of-law-event/
↺ https://edri.org/take-action/events/new-technologies-and-fundamental-rights-monsters-of-law-event/
08:02 TR Bot; New Technologies and Fundamental Rights - Monsters of Law event - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
08:03 TR News; Microsoft itself is a scam https://threatpost.com/voicemail-phishing-scam-steals-microsoft-credentials/180005/
08:03 TR Bot; Scam Steals Microsoft Credentials | Threatpost
08:04 TR News; Microsoft is King of Ransomware https://threatpost.com/office-365-opens-ransomware-attacks-on-onedrive-sharepoint/180010/
08:04 TR Bot; 365 Config Loophole Opens OneDrive, SharePoint Data to Ransomware Attack | Threatpost
08:06 TR News; Raspberry Pi Projects and News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166325
08:06 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Projects and News | Tux Machines
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08:08 *psydruid is waiting for ransomware to run in the Microsoft clown
08:08 schestowitz_TR; Microsoft: PAY US or else
08:08 schestowitz_TR; that's "official" ransom
08:08 schestowitz_TR; doe snto count
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08:10 TR News; Happy 80th, Paul McCartney! "Clara and I have been diving headfirst into Pauls discography of late, and now I learn the chap just hit the big 80 yesterday." https://rubenerd.com/happy-80th-paul-mccartney/
08:10 TR Bot; Happy 80th, Paul McCartney!
08:11 TR News; You Need to be Wrong (Sometimes) https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2022/06/20/You-Need-to-be-Wrong-Sometimes/
08:11 TR Bot; You Need to be Wrong (Sometimes) | Ben Congdon
08:13 TR News; Bitcoin and ether both are down 70%+ since November 2021
08:14 TR News; The sweatshop company https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/18/technology/apple-union-maryland.html
08:14 TR Bot; Apple Workers at Maryland Store Vote to Unionize, a First in the U.S. - The New York Times
08:15 TR News; "The House of Representatives on Monday, following an earlier vote by the Senate, approved legislation that retailers believe will help reign in ocean carriers who have used the coronavirus pandemic as a rational to jack up rates to transport goods to the U.S." https://retailwire.com/discussion/retailers-applaud-as-ocean-shipping-reform-act-sails-through-congress/
08:15 TR Bot; applaud as Ocean Shipping Reform Act sails through Congress RetailWire
08:16 TR News; Standards on buzzwords: another IEEE profiteering opportunity? https://standards.ieee.org/initiatives/artificial-intelligence-systems/
08:16 TR Bot; IEEE SA - Artificial Intelligence Systems (AIS)
08:18 TR News; Differences between base and ports LLVM in OpenBSD https://www.cambus.net/differences-between-base-and-ports-llvm-in-openbsd/
08:18 TR Bot; Differences between base and ports LLVM in OpenBSD | Frederic Cambus
08:21 TR News; Microsoft : DAY-LONG downtimes https://therecord.media/microsoft-365-cloudflare-say-service-restored-after-outages/
08:21 TR Bot; Microsoft 365, Cloudflare say service restored after outages - The Record by Recorded Future
08:22 TR News; Microsoft Epstein https://www.techradar.com/news/wait-is-microsoft-tempting-kids-away-from-chrome-with-minecraft-money "Well, he's dead"... not
08:22 TR Bot; is Microsoft tempting kids away from Chrome with Minecraft money? | TechRadar
08:24 TR News; SolidRun RZ/G2LC SOM is powered by Renesas RZ/G2LC processor for AI-enhanced HMI applications - CNX Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166312#comment-34099
08:24 TR Bot; Devices: Memfault, AOI, amd SolidRun | Tux Machines
08:25 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/irc-log-210622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/irc-log-210622/
08:25 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 | Techrights
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08:35 TR News; Links 22/06/2022: Turkeys GNU/Linux Stories and Giving up on GNOME To Do | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/turkey-gnu-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/turkey-gnu-linux/
08:35 TR Bot; Links 22/06/2022: Turkeys GNU/Linux Stories and Giving up on GNOME To Do | Techrights
08:35 TR News; Security and Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166326
08:35 TR Bot; Security and Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:36 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166327
08:36 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166328
08:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:36 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166329
08:36 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
08:38 TR News; Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/despots-game-dystopian-army-builder-to-leave-early-access-this-summer/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:38 TR Bot; Game: Dystopian Army Builder to leave Early Access this 'Summer' | GamingOnLinux
08:38 TR News; Now on GNU/Linux "proper" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/horror-mystery-visual-novel-five-stages-of-pink-now-supported-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:38 TR Bot; mystery visual novel Five Stages of Pink now supported on Linux | GamingOnLinux
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08:39 TR News; "SolidRun announced today a partnership with Renesas Electronics at Embedded World. According to SolidRun" https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
08:39 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/solidrun-releases-som-module-based-on-renesas-rz-g2lc-soc/ )
08:40 TR News; "As you may already know, when an user enter a command with sudo privileges, the sudo password will be remembered for a brief period of time." https://ostechnix.com/force-sudo-password-authentication-in-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix
08:40 TR Bot; To Force Sudo Password Authentication In Linux - OSTechNix
08:41 TR News; "This is a tutorial to install Unity Desktop Environment on Ubuntu 22.04." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/ubuntu-unity-jammy-jellyfish.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
08:41 TR Bot; Ubuntu Unity Jammy Jellyfish
08:42 TR News; "Linux has always been known for its flexibility and installing packages from ISO is one of them." https://www.tecmint.com/create-rhel-9-local-repository/ | Source: TecMint
08:42 TR Bot; How to Install Software Packages Using Local RHEL 9 ISO
08:42 TR News; "MySQL is one of the oldest and most reliable open-source relational database management systems which is trusted" https://www.tecmint.com/install-mysql-fedora-linux/ | Source: TecMint
08:42 TR Bot; How to Install MySQL 8 in Fedora 36 Linux
08:43 TR News; iophk: pocket change, he is mistaking this for assistance, see third comment https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/microsoft-gives-10k-to-gnome-shorts:b
08:43 TR Bot; MICROSOFT gives $10K to GNOME #SHORTS
08:44 TR News; Plausibility of Claimed Covid-19 Vaccine Efficacies by Age:... : American Journal of Therapeutics https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/Abstract/9900/Plausibility_of_Claimed_Covid_19_Vaccine.47.aspx Source blocked by javascript
08:44 TR Bot; Plausibility of Claimed Covid-19 Vaccine Efficacies by Age:... : American Journal of Therapeutics
08:47 TR News; RPG https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/fountains-is-a-promising-looking-metroidvania-action-rpg-with-a-demo-up/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR Bot; is a promising looking metroidvania action-RPG with a demo up | GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR News; Another RPG https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/erannorth-chronicles-gets-fixed-up-for-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR Bot; Chronicles gets fixed up for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR News; Twisted Tale https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/comedy-point-and-click-adventure-a-twisted-tale-has-a-demo-and-kickstarter-live/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR Bot; point and click adventure A Twisted Tale has a demo and Kickstarter live | GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR News; Steam Deck https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/missed-your-steam-deck-email-valve-confirms-a-grace-period-to-still-get-one/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:47 TR Bot; your Steam Deck email? Valve confirms a grace period to still get one | GamingOnLinux
08:51 TR News; Hey, Pro Publica, you are bagging BRIBES from the world's biggest tax avoider AND famous criminal, Bill Gates. Will you do an article about those who bribe you too? https://www.propublica.org/article/jeff-yass-susquehanna-tiktok-tax-avoidance
08:51 TR Bot; Jeff Yass: The Billionaire GOP Mega-Donor Gaming the Tax System ProPublica
08:52 TR News; "Some readers have written in with questions about my photo geotagging post from last week" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/06/20/exif/ | Source: Rachel
08:52 TR Bot; More on geo-tagging photos with a time element
08:52 TR News; "Spotify announced the recipients of the 2022 Spotify FOSS Fund and urllib3 was among the 8 projects" https://sethmlarson.dev/blog/get-paid-to-contribute-to-urllib3?date=2022-06-21 | Source: Seth Michael Larson
08:52 TR Bot; Get paid to contribute to urllib3 (Newsletter #7)
08:53 TR News; Games: Despots Game: Dystopian Army Builder, Five Stages of Pink, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166330
08:53 TR Bot; Games: Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder, Five Stages of Pink, and More | Tux Machines
08:54 TR News; "TCL is one of those scripting languages which used to be used a hell of a lot in the past" https://blog.steve.fi/writing_a_simple_tcl_interpreter_in_golang.html | Source: Steve Kemp
08:54 TR Bot; Writing a simple TCL interpreter in golang
08:54 TR News; "The modern web is replete with such examples, where convention is discarded for stylistic reasons" https://rubenerd.com/web-design-101-field-order-matters/ | Source: Ruben Schade
08:54 TR Bot; Web design 101: field order matters
08:54 TR News; "Yet, Id like yet another layer: semantic bookmarking of history entrie" https://ane.iki.fi/2022/06/21/beenthere-donethat.html |
08:54 TR Bot; Been there, done that
08:55 TR News; Hardware: "Recently we got some 20 TB HDDs to become the future data storage for our Prometheus metrics system" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/HDDsNowSomewhatBetter | Source: uni Toronto
08:55 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/HDDsNowSomewhatBetter
08:56 TR News; Proprietary = junk https://www.computerworld.com/article/3664141/cloudflare-outage-brings-hundreds-of-sites-services-temporarily-offline.html | Source: Computer World
08:56 TR Bot; outage brings hundreds of sites, services temporarily offline | Computerworld
08:56 TR News; Microsoft junk https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/microsoft-outlook-email-issues-cloudflare-b2105870.html | Source: The Independent UK
08:56 TR Bot; Microsofts Outlook email taken down by global internet outage | The Independent
08:56 TR News; Microsoft = no working getting done https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/tech/microsoft-outlook-outage-email-service-down-with-company-working-on-fix-after-service-inaccessible-3739663 | Source: The Scotsman
08:56 TR Bot; Outlook outage: Email service down with company working on fix after service inaccessible | The Scotsman
08:56 TR News; Maybe time to end the back doors, NSA? https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3531924-former-nsa-chief-warns-against-russian-cyberattacks-against-us-financial-sector/ | Source: The Hill
08:56 TR Bot; Former NSA chief warns of Russian cyberattacks against US financial sector | The Hill
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 TR News; Privacy abuses by Gulag in NHS are well documented: "Yet it is Alphabet, Googles corporate parent, whose health-care ambitions seem to be the most vaulting." https://www.economist.com/business/2022/06/20/alphabet-is-spending-billions-to-become-a-force-in-health-care | Source: The Economist
08:59 TR Bot; is spending billions to become a force in health care | The Economist
08:59 TR News; "There is a significant problem, though." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/hidden-anti-cryptography-provisions-in-internet-anti-trust-bills.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
08:59 TR Bot; Anti-Cryptography Provisions in Internet Anti-Trust Bills - Schneier on Security
09:00 TR News; "What I want you to do after you finish reading this, is email me every single login you have." https://gregoryhammond.ca/blog/is-privacy-dead/ | Source: Gregory Hammond
09:00 TR Bot; Is Privacy Dead - Gregory Hammond
09:00 TR News; "The legislation was drafted in response to a Supreme Court draft leaked in May that showed the court was prepared to overturn Roe v. Wade, a decision that would trigger abortion bans or severe restrictions in a number of U.S. states." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3531776-democrats-introduce-bill-to-ban-collection-of-reproductive-health-data/ | Source: The Hill
09:00 TR Bot; Democrats introduce bill to ban collection of reproductive health data | The Hill
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09:03 TR News; "Promoting such false information violates the policies of Facebook, Twitter and TikTok." https://www.salon.com/2022/06/21/big-lie-vigilantes-publish-targets-online--but-facebook-and-twitter-are-asleep-at-the-wheel_partner/ | Source: Salon
09:03 TR Bot; Lie vigilantes publish targets online but Facebook and Twitter are asleep at the wheel | Salon.com
09:03 TR News; "According to the leak, the German government asks 61 questions, which in part are very tough and will pose serious problems for the EU Commission to answer." https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/will-germany-fight-for-privacy/ | Source: Tutao GmbH
09:03 TR Bot; Leaked 'chat control' document: Will Germany fight for privacy?
09:04 TR News; "the State and Local Government Cybersecurity Act" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3531553-biden-signs-cyber-bills-into-law/ | Source: The Hill
09:04 TR Bot; Biden signs cyber bills into law | The Hill
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09:09 TR News; "The "TV people" that Colbert referenced included Fox News host Tucker Carlson" https://text.npr.org/1106374559 | Source: NPR
09:09 TR Bot; Here's how Stephen Colbert says his staff members got arrested on Capitol Hill
09:09 TR News; "Fresh off his legal battle with his ex-wife Amber Heard, Johnny Depp took to his social media" https://www.freepressjournal.in/hollywood/johnny-depp-warns-fans-of-fake-accounts-pretending-to-be-him-on-social-media | Source: Free Press Journal
09:09 TR Bot; Johnny Depp warns fans of fake accounts pretending to be him on social media
09:09 TR News; "I ask that you remain cautious as it seems these fake accounts can be relentless" https://people.com/movies/johnny-depp-asks-fans-to-be-cautious-as-his-team-combats-fake-social-media-accounts/ | Source: People Magazine
09:09 TR Bot; Depp: My Team Is Working to 'Combat' Fake Social Media Accounts | PEOPLE.com
09:09 TR News; "In a note shared on Instagram Story, the 59-year-old said that he was informed that some 'fake' social media accounts were 'pretending' to be him or claiming that they work with him." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/i-do-not-have-any-private-or-side-accounts-johnny-depp-warns-fans-of-imposters-shares-list-of-verified-profiles/articleshow/92333394.cms | Source: India Times
09:09 TR Bot; johnny depp: 'I do not have any private or side accounts'. Johnny Depp warns fans of impostors, shares list of verified profiles - The Economic Times
09:10 TR News; "The photo was taken by Matt Beemsterboer, 34, who was surprised to see the likes of Elon Musk share it Tuesday, considering the price depicted wasn't accurate" https://text.npr.org/1106450478 | Source: NPR
09:10 TR Bot; No, this 7-Eleven isn't charging $7.11 for gas, even if the internet says so
09:10 TR News; Censorship: "My brief tangle with the mob taught me that it is not when I am most embattled that I see most clearly" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/opinion/cancel-culture-friendship.html | Source: New York Times
09:10 TR Bot; Opinion | If I Get Canceled, I Want Friends, Not Allies - The New York Times
09:11 TR News; Freedom of the Press: "Now is the time to end the dangerous threat to basic freedoms and the rule of law that the Julian Assange persecution represents." https://michaelwest.com.au/time-to-act-anthony-albanese-the-assange-persecution-cannot-be-allowed-to-go-on/ | Source: Michael West Media
09:11 TR Bot; Anthony Albanese, it's time to end the Julian Assange persecution
09:12 TR News; Freedom of the Press: "Puname at the time worked for daily Postimees." https://news.err.ee/1608636064/family-values-group-head-fined-over-journalist-ejection-from-public-protest | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
09:12 TR Bot; Family values group head fined over journalist ejection from public protest | News | ERR
09:12 TR News; "Investigators say the latest information indicates officers had more than enough firepower and protection to take down the gunman long before they finally did." https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/2022/06/20/officers-arrived-uvalde-school-rifles-shield-9-minutes-after-gunman/7623318001/ |
09:12 TR Bot; American-Statesman
09:13 TR News; "Police could have stopped Uvalde shooting within 3 minutes [...] it took about an hour and 14 minute" https://text.npr.org/1106372103 | Source: NPR
09:13 TR Bot; The police response at Robb Elementary was a failure, a Texas official says
09:16 TR News; After Gulag go tackle Microsoft's much bigger crimes in Germany https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1930990.html | Source: RTL
09:16 TR Bot; RTL Today - Unfair advantage: Germany opens anti-cartel probe into Google Maps
09:17 TR News; I had to explain to me German councillor that his Android phone was recording his location even if he had set that to "off"
09:18 TR News; All mobile phones are not privacy-respecting. It's just what such phones do. It is how they work.
09:19 TR News; Qatar sportswashing https://www.thenation.com/article/society/fifa-qatar-world-cup-sportswashing/ | Source: The Nation
09:19 TR Bot; The Tragic Absurdity of Qatars World Cup Sportswashing | The Nation
09:20 TR News; Corporations still from taxpayers under the guise of "defence" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/pentagon-defense-department-budget/ | Source: The Nation http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
09:20 TR Bot; The Pentagon Gets More Money, and Americans Pay the Price | The Nation
09:20 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
09:22 TR News; Old: "The Mare Crisium Soviet Socialist Regency (or "the Soviet" for short) is a public access OpenBSD server offering shell accounts, Gopher hosting and Gemini hosting to a maximum of 48 users." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/a-new-circumlunar-colony.gmi
09:22 TR News; "with part of this being moving toward an "offline first" mode of computing, where I connect to the internet only when I need to for as long as I need to to accomplish some specific task." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/progress-toward-offline-first.gmi
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09:25 TR News; "If youre one of those people who got into building electronics for the purpose of making music, then this Raspberry Pi RP2040-based audio DSP project by [DatanoiseTV] might be of interest." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/a-simple-rp2040-based-audio-dsp-board/ | Source: Hackaday
09:25 TR Bot; Simple RP2040-Based Audio DSP Board | Hackaday
09:26 TR News; Buzzwords salad and HYPE: "With the power of edge AI in the palm of your hand, your business will be unstoppable." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/edging-ahead-when-learning-on-the-edge/ | Source: Hackaday
09:26 TR Bot; Ahead When Learning On The Edge | Hackaday
09:27 TR News; "Twitter refused and asked a federal magistrate judge to quash Baysides subpoena." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/victory-court-rules-dmca-does-not-override-first-amendments-anonymous-speech | Source: EFF
09:27 TR Bot; Victory! Court Rules That DMCA Does Not Override First Amendments Anonymous Speech Protections | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:28 TR News; "Deleting posts or cancelling accounts because a government official or agency requested or required itjust like spying on peoples communications on behalf of the government" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/when-jawboning-creates-private-liability | Source: EFF
09:28 TR Bot; When Jawboning Creates Private Liability | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:28 TR News; Assange https://truthout.org/articles/julian-assange-is-enduring-unbearable-persecution-for-exposing-us-war-crimes/ | Source: TruthOut
09:28 TR Bot; Julian Assange Is Enduring Unbearable Persecution for Exposing US War Crimes
09:28 matey; apart from being github-based, one of the things i really loathe about pygame falls into the category of "fuck users, whatever"
09:29 TR News; "It appears all but inevitable that Julian Assange will be receiving an all-expenses-paid (except for his defense!) one-way trip" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/uk-approves-extradition-of-julian-assange-allowing-the-us-government-to-continue-criminalizing-journalism/ | Source: Techdirt
09:29 TR Bot; Approves Extradition Of Julian Assange, Allowing The US Government To Continue Criminalizing Journalism | Techdirt
09:29 matey; and note that i chose pygame originally for its user-friendliness, its just a wrapper for sdl
09:29 schestowitz_TR; matey: pygame and python
09:29 matey; pygame implies python
09:29 schestowitz_TR; a lot of python stuff surrendered
09:29 schestowitz_TR; the founder went to work for the criminals
09:29 matey; well i dont bother with python 3
09:29 matey; thats the google/microsoft/less-basic-like version
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:30 matey; pypy2 is still maintained
09:30 matey; and has all the python features i need
09:30 matey; it isnt even github based
09:30 schestowitz_TR; it won't last forever
09:30 matey; i dont think you understand pypy2
09:30 schestowitz_TR; to "east the migration" they let people run both in tandem fir now
09:30 schestowitz_TR; *ease
09:30 matey; it isnt from the same people
09:31 matey; it isnt for the same purpose
09:31 matey; pypy2 has about as much to do with cpython as mate has to do with gnome
09:31 matey; anyway
09:31 matey; pygame
09:31 TR News; More surveillance https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/06/21/european-court-ruling-on-air-travel-surveillance/ | Source: Papers Please
09:31 TR Bot; European Court ruling on air travel surveillance Papers, Please!
09:32 matey; at one point someone decided it would be cute for pygame to put a little message about itself on stdout
09:32 matey; its a graphical window
09:32 TR News; "The U.S. Copyright Claims Board has been live for a few days and thus far 19 cases have been filed." https://torrentfreak.com/paris-hilton-is-one-of-the-first-defendants-at-the-small-copyright-claims-board-220621/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:32 TR Bot; Hilton is One of the First Defendants at the 'Small' Copyright Claims Board * TorrentFreak
09:32 TR News; "Manga publisher Shueisha is running a survey on its MANGA Plus service." https://torrentfreak.com/manga-plus-invites-users-to-confess-piracy-name-most-used-pirate-sites-220621/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:32 matey; so they figured that stdout wasnt something the user cared about
09:32 TR Bot; Plus Invites Users to Confess Piracy & Name Most-Used Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
09:32 matey; well heres the thing, even if you use pygame for graphical output
09:32 matey; you dont need pygame announcing itself on stdout
09:33 schestowitz_TR; python2 will die
09:33 matey; some of us are still useing stdout for other program features
09:33 schestowitz_TR; sooner than python 3
09:33 schestowitz_TR; and maybe before python4+
09:33 schestowitz_TR; because software sucks
09:33 schestowitz_TR; and they move too fast
09:33 schestowitz_TR; look what happend to kde
09:33 matey; cobol is still around
09:33 schestowitz_TR; qt "upgraded" and many kde applications no longer maintained simply ceased to exist
09:33 matey; one of the things that really fucks me off about python 3
09:33 schestowitz_TR; cobol is from another era
09:33 matey; is the fanboy cult pretended python 2 users dont exist
09:33 matey; they do
09:34 matey; so is python 2
09:34 matey; python 3 has been around for fucking AGES
09:34 schestowitz_TR; one when laptops' expected lifetime was not 2 years... heck, they had no proper laptop back then
09:34 schestowitz_TR; computers turned into "gadgets"
09:34 matey; anyway, they pretended python 2 users dont exist
09:35 matey; i stopped using systemd (after about a week, maybe less!) in 2014
09:35 matey; nearly EIGHT years ago
09:35 schestowitz_TR; they should be like gemini
09:35 schestowitz_TR; make a simple spec
09:35 matey; python 3 has been around longer than that
09:35 schestowitz_TR; leave it frozen for good
09:35 matey; make a simple spec <- done
09:35 matey; leave it frozen for good <- done
09:35 schestowitz_TR; maybe the occasional bug fix or removing an ambuguity
09:35 matey; maybe the occasional bug fix or removing an ambuguity <- done
09:36 schestowitz_TR; afaik, gemini has been the same all these years
09:36 schestowitz_TR; and you can expect it to be the same i 10 years
09:36 matey; well yeah, simplicity is a goal
09:36 schestowitz_TR; so clients and servers do not necessitate "upgrades"
09:36 matey; as is stability
09:36 schestowitz_TR; it's putting huge burden on developers
09:36 matey; so the pygame decision fucks with existing programs
09:36 schestowitz_TR; to keep up with "new" crap
09:36 schestowitz_TR; where the cost of keeping up is high
09:36 matey; and their attitude about it is very familiar to init freedom people
09:37 schestowitz_TR; and the benefit of the new stuff is vanishingly small
09:37 matey; well heres the thing
09:37 matey; IF you care about software freedom
09:37 schestowitz_TR; like a curve that moves downward and nearly flattens
09:37 matey; then corporations constantly hijacking and fucking up software probably pisses you off
09:37 schestowitz_TR; asymptotic?
09:38 matey; and fighting that is PART OF free software https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html
09:38 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom
09:38 schestowitz_TR; not all corporations do this
09:38 matey; irrelevant
09:38 schestowitz_TR; that leads them to "technical debt"
09:38 schestowitz_TR; and then they cannot keep up with their own stuff
09:38 matey; most corporations profit rom technical debt
09:38 schestowitz_TR; happend a lot at Microsoft
09:38 schestowitz_TR; they sank under the weight of their own pigs
09:38 matey; so they found new pigs
09:38 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - Netsplit lost users: ChanServ
09:38 matey; thats what these companies do
09:38 schestowitz_TR; not necessarilyt
09:38 schestowitz_TR; they create "IP stickiness" -Microsoft
09:39 schestowitz_TR; otherwise people jump ship
09:39 matey; ibm has spent more than a century exploiting whatever it gets its hands on
09:39 schestowitz_TR; to avoid that debt
09:39 matey; milk it, slaughter it, buy new shit
09:39 matey; they create "IP stickiness" -Microsof <- i still have that pdf
09:39 matey; anyway, pygame were predictably dicks about the whole thing
09:39 schestowitz_TR; yes, because it's hard to find
09:39 matey; i do have a program that removes the message
09:39 schestowitz_TR; Microsoft tries to hide that
09:39 matey; but since pyython isnt compiled
09:40 matey; the fix only works for people who bother running it
09:40 matey; and most people dont want to MODIFY their python installation
09:40 matey; they just want to run code on it
09:40 matey; so its a really obnoxious move from the pygame devs
09:40 matey; serves no purpose
09:40 matey; breaks shit
09:40 matey; these days i rarely use pygame
09:40 matey; even the code i have that uses pgame
09:40 matey; i rarely use that
09:41 matey; i removed pygame support from the project i use the most
09:41 matey; and now the two projects i use the most dont include it
09:41 matey; i do graphics with xterm now. shit you not.
09:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - Netjoin gained users: ChanServ
09:41 pylink-_9pfs; [Solanum.repl] - ChanServ (ChanServ@services.solanum.repl) sets mode +nt on #techrights
09:41 matey; obviously i mostly do graphics for fun
09:41 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> "Here at Enterprising Enterprise, we love technology, but were also pushing it hard, constantly trying to expand the frontier of whats possible." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/from-apples-to-pears
09:41 TR Bot; from apples to pears
09:41 schestowitz_TR; matey: ^ new
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09:41 schestowitz_TR; from python 2 to 3
09:41 matey; (you can get the font down to 1x1 px)
09:41 fuzzy; just today, synced latest gentoo tree, missed 18month already, hacking other things instead
09:42 fuzzy; it is probably not bad intentions of gentoo devs
09:42 matey; matey: ^ new <- you can post that link separately or give it 5 minutes to show up in the scrollback
09:42 matey; ill have it either way
09:43 fuzzy; nonetheless, maintaining old packages (with a clean and minimal dependency graph), becomes increasingly difficult, because of breakag of the packaging/build-system
09:43 matey; /me doesnt get the bot links by default
09:43 fuzzy; without excessive dirty hacks, i couldn't keep some older compiler/binutils, and many other things
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09:45 fuzzy; and it is some indirect forced upgrades introduced by this
09:45 fuzzy; libraries which otherwise remained clean concerning c++, all of the sudden need it, because of cmake or any other change like this
09:46 matey; "Here at Enterprising Enterprise, we love technology, but were also pushing it hard, constantly trying to expand the frontier of whats possible." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/from-apples-to-pears
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09:46 matey; i presume this is what matey: ^ new is about
09:48 matey; i mean hes ranting about the same thing i am here
09:48 matey; pears arent apples
09:48 matey; DEAL WITH IT
09:48 matey; FSF ISNT ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE ANYMORE
09:48 matey; DEAL WITH IT
09:48 matey; /me takes off gnus sunglasses and throws them in a volcano
09:49 matey; theres enough fake there already
09:49 fuzzy; lol... sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles ... what is this
09:49 matey; kill it with fire, fuzzy
09:49 fuzzy; in the latest gentoo tree, this enforces systemd clutter all of the sudden on latest git HEAD
09:50 matey; anyway
09:50 fuzzy; i cannot remove gentoo tooling easily, that's the problem
09:50 matey; the trend youre not onto yet roy
09:50 matey; is the efforts to actually fight this bullshit
09:50 matey; sure youll mention them in links or something
09:51 fuzzy; even if, i manage to compile the entire package set, synching against upstream will be a nightmare, if i cannot rely on gentoo
09:51 matey; alongside non-free stuff and whatever else you think is news-worthy in there
09:51 matey; but its the only free-software story left
09:51 matey; people fighting against the bullshit
09:51 matey; thats all thats left of the movement, and admittedly. its fucking scarce
09:51 schestowitz_TR; <matey> FSF ISNT ABOUT FREE SOFTWARE ANYMORE
09:52 schestowitz_TR; there's more to it than this
09:52 matey; no, there isnt.
09:52 matey; you would like there to be
09:52 schestowitz_TR; as threats proliferate
09:52 fuzzy; and with gentoo, keeping the profile _clean_ becomes increasingly difficult, although the stunts necessary to hack back into support for a free GNU compiler (4.7) is at the edge already of what is possible, and it is
09:52 schestowitz_TR; even if we had software freedom, the other creeping issue would still restrict freedom
09:52 matey; free software still (barely) exists
09:52 schestowitz_TR; inc. the hardware and the network
09:52 matey; but the fsf hasnt care about it in forever
09:52 matey; lieplanet doesnt care about it either
09:52 matey; guix doesnt care about it either
09:53 matey; if youre going to conflate the people faking it and destroying it and co-opting it
09:53 matey; with the few left who are actually fighting it
09:53 matey; i mean, thats what made all this treachery possible in the first place
09:53 matey; thats the open source marching song-- conflate bullshit with the real thing
09:53 matey; the bullshit needs to be on one side
09:53 fuzzy; there is rarely any clean linux distribution remaining, the only other one i knew is oasis linux, and i couldn't review this one yet
09:53 matey; the real thing needs to be on the other sides
09:54 matey; thats the REAL story
09:54 matey; the rest is marketing and takeover
09:54 matey; and if you cant tell the difference, youre working for the wrong side
09:54 matey; the formerly libre, openly sleazy software side
09:54 matey; at any rate, there IS a side still fighting
09:54 matey; small and growing in numbers
09:55 matey; if you dont tell that story, if you downplay the coup and conflate bs with the restistance
09:55 matey; someone else will get the story right
09:55 matey; youd only be doing it to yourself
09:55 TR News; Links 22/06/2022: Microsofts Very Long Downtimes and Games Ported to GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/microsoft-very-long-downtimes/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/microsoft-very-long-downtimes/
09:55 TR Bot; Links 22/06/2022: Microsofts Very Long Downtimes and Games Ported to GNU/Linux | Techrights
09:55 matey; but it does help the baddies
09:56 matey; youd basically be helping the occupation
09:56 TR News; Proprietary Failures Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166331
09:56 TR Bot; Proprietary Failures | Tux Machines
09:56 matey; psarticularly when you have the resources to know better
09:56 TR News; Programming and Tinkering Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166332
09:56 matey; ill be telling the real story either way
09:56 matey; so
09:56 TR Bot; Programming and Tinkering | Tux Machines
09:56 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166333
09:56 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
09:56 matey; you do you
09:57 schestowitz_TR; <matey> if you dont tell that story, if you downplay the coup and conflate bs with the restistance
09:57 schestowitz_TR; would you rather theby lied down?
09:57 schestowitz_TR; belly-up?
09:57 matey; what are you asking?
09:57 matey; who?
09:57 schestowitz_TR; this coup is very old
09:57 matey; so is microsoft
09:57 matey; so is ibm
09:57 matey; so what?
09:57 schestowitz_TR; separate issue
09:57 matey; theyre very active
09:57 schestowitz_TR; the court ~= fsf
09:58 matey; the fsf is done
09:58 schestowitz_TR; *coup
09:58 matey; done, dead, meaningless
09:58 matey; sold out
09:58 matey; they have nothing
09:58 matey; they DO nothing
09:58 schestowitz_TR; the was already a coup in the 90s
09:58 schestowitz_TR; the media called gnu "linux"
09:58 matey; that was kid stuff
09:58 schestowitz_TR; and then in 1998 they 'invented' a competing camp
09:58 matey; theres a difference between an attempt on something and an actual fall
09:59 matey; this was an actual fall
09:59 matey; the stuff in the 90s wasnt
09:59 schestowitz_TR; fsf is up against regimes that spend trillions on "defense"
09:59 schestowitz_TR; what did you expect?
09:59 matey; you have a problem with differences
09:59 schestowitz_TR; fsf to "take over the world"?
09:59 matey; what did you expect? <- EFFORT
09:59 schestowitz_TR; there would be resistance to them
09:59 matey; ive looked
09:59 schestowitz_TR; that's expected
09:59 matey; its not there.
09:59 matey; no
09:59 schestowitz_TR; see how quickly wikileak was put down
09:59 matey; this is why its a stupid question
09:59 schestowitz_TR; assange has been de facto arrested within 4 years of wikileaks being founded
09:59 matey; would you rather theby lied down? <- THATS WHAT THEY DID!
10:00 matey; they dont fight
10:00 matey; they even tell other people not to fight
10:00 fuzzy; i don't think it is possible for anyone else to catch up with the completeness of my c-only profile anymore
10:00 matey; then YOU tell people to fight
10:00 matey; i don't think it is possible for anyone else to catch up <- of course it is
10:00 matey; you arent inventing cold fusion over there
10:01 matey; but in fairness, its UNLIKELY. just not impossible
10:01 fuzzy; within the gentoo tree, there is too much hacks and clutter, which requires alot of time and testing and detailed insight, which rarely anyone had
10:01 matey; which rarely anyone had <- thats still a far cry from impossible
10:01 fuzzy; either you end up with outdated and or incomplete package set, or it won't be c-only, except for mine
10:01 matey; ill give you unlikely
10:02 matey; then YOU tell people to fight <- damned typos
10:02 fuzzy; another one caught... jpeg-9c (c-only) removed from gentoo tree, only libjpeg-turbo now... c++
10:02 matey; then YOU tell people to NOT to fight
10:02 TR News; GNU/Linux has taken over but not the way many of us advocates envisioned it ("clown", Android etc.)
10:02 fuzzy; gentoo invested efforts, into maintenance of different jpeg libs... and now removed the good one
10:02 TR News; brands distract from goals and concepts
10:03 TR News; Richard Stallman: Freedom is the Goal (Updated) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/15/richard-stallman-freedom-is-the-goal/
10:03 TR Bot; Richard Stallman: Freedom is the Goal (Updated) | Techrights
10:03 matey; anyway
10:03 matey; the point youre still working hard to miss is
10:03 matey; there IS an actual fight
10:03 matey; its not happening at the fsf, because the fsf doesnt exist
10:03 matey; its a the non-profit equivalent of a shell corporation now
10:03 matey; and being liquidated year by year
10:03 matey; as ibm extracts gcc from it
10:03 schestowitz_TR; I told RMS about LF
10:04 matey; and gnu becomes dead
10:04 schestowitz_TR; he does not eant to speak about it himse
10:04 matey; I told RMS about LF <- rms doesnt exist anymore either
10:04 schestowitz_TR; they paralysed that movement
10:04 schestowitz_TR; a fear of backlash
10:04 matey; http://web.archive.org/web/20211027055047/http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/ <- this was true
10:04 TR Bot; The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights
10:04 matey; still is true
10:04 schestowitz_TR; and some people work hard to self-censor or censor those who STILL speak about the issues
10:04 matey; http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/
10:04 TR Bot; The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights
10:04 matey; and some people work hard to self-censor or censor those who STILL speak about the issues <- thats the occupation at work
10:04 matey; the fsf just lays down
10:05 matey; thats why its a farce
10:05 fuzzy; and with c++ and cmake spreading, the entire foss locks into hostile compiler and/or versions of those
10:05 matey; we were pretending stallman was "back"
10:05 matey; hes not back
10:05 matey; he never will be back
10:05 schestowitz_TR; Kooyman has said nearly nothing since becoming ED
10:05 matey; there is nothing to come back to
10:05 schestowitz_TR; Greg says a bit more
10:05 schestowitz_TR; but just a bit
10:05 matey; Kooyman has said nearly nothing <- youre only proving my point
10:05 schestowitz_TR; I see they are active in Twitter
10:05 matey; noise on twitter isnt fighting for freedom
10:05 schestowitz_TR; but activism in 20-work chunks/bytes is not effecdtive
10:05 matey; you know you cant fight for freedom on twitter anyway, its too censored
10:05 schestowitz_TR; *word
10:06 matey; actually
10:06 matey; you CAN fight for SOME things on twitter
10:06 matey; though its not my choice of tool
10:06 schestowitz_TR; until the curtails come
10:06 schestowitz_TR; then they come after you
10:06 matey; i signed up when they went double-length?
10:06 schestowitz_TR; *curtains
10:06 matey; i posted once and they said it was weird that i didnt give a phone number
10:06 matey; oh well
10:06 schestowitz_TR; twitter got FINED for that
10:07 matey; fine
10:07 schestowitz_TR; they used that phone number thing for spying
10:07 schestowitz_TR; with advertisers
10:07 schestowitz_TR; they broke the law
10:07 schestowitz_TR; it was not to secure people's accounts
10:07 matey; obviously
10:07 matey; but this is the dance
10:07 matey; when theres talk about the most important shit
10:07 matey; it becomes a million tiny less significant tangents
10:07 schestowitz_TR; https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/25/twitter-user-data-advertising-settlement
10:07 TR Bot; Twitter fined $150m for handing users contact details to advertisers | Twitter | The Guardian
10:07 schestowitz_TR; https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/twitter-phone-numbers-targeted-ads-b2087771.html
10:07 TR Bot; Twitter to pay $150M penalty for using phone numbers for targeted ads | The Independent
10:07 schestowitz_TR; https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/25/twitter-fine-ftc/
10:07 schestowitz_TR; https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/twitter-to-pay-150-million-fine-over-using-phone-numbers-for-targeted-ads/
10:07 matey; the occupation? oh meh, whatevers
10:08 schestowitz_TR; https://www.adweek.com/media/ftc-doj-fine-twitter-150m-for-improper-use-of-users-phone-numbers/
10:08 TR Bot; Twitter will pay $150 million fine over deceptively using data - The Washington Post
10:08 TR Bot; to Pay $150 Million Fine Over Using Phone Numbers for Targeted Ads - CNET
10:08 TR Bot; FTC, DOJ Fine Twitter $150M for Improper Use of Users Phone Numbers
10:08 matey; yeah, twitters never going to be free
10:08 matey; anyway, this dance is fine, its old hat
10:08 schestowitz_TR; Twitter was ALREADY losing money
10:08 fuzzy; flashrom... pciutils, now insist on llvm/clang... which these didn't before (can be fixed of cause)... it is a long list
10:08 schestowitz_TR; now fines
10:08 matey; the fight will go on
10:08 schestowitz_TR; and ICBM blackmailed Twitter with patents
10:08 matey; where things are less bullshit
10:08 schestowitz_TR; iirc, twitter settled for 20 million
10:08 matey; some of it will get mentioned in links
10:08 schestowitz_TR; over very BS SOFTWARE patents
10:08 matey; on irc
10:08 fuzzy; what if, anyone wanted to use flashrom... without the presence of llvm/clang and a c++ compiler?
10:08 schestowitz_TR; ICBM is a thug
10:08 matey; <fuzzy> what if, anyone wanted to use flashrom... without the presence of llvm/clang and a c++ compiler? <- that would be cool
10:09 schestowitz_TR; https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/05/twitter-pays-150m-fine-for-using-two-factor-login-details-to-target-ads/ https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61606476 https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2022/05/twitter-pay-150-million-penalty-allegedly-breaking-its-privacy-promises-again https://mashable.com/article/twitter-fine-elon-musk
10:09 TR Bot; Twitter pays $150M fine for using two-factor login details to target ads | Ars Technica
10:09 TR Bot; fined $150m in US for selling users' data - BBC News
10:09 fuzzy; matey: cool?
10:09 TR Bot; Twitter to pay $150 million penalty for allegedly breaking its privacy promises again | Federal Trade Commission
10:09 TR Bot; pays $150 million fine over privacy and Elon Musk has thoughts | Mashable
10:09 matey; yes, if they could do that
10:09 matey; without all that bloated shit
10:09 matey; you said "what if"
10:09 matey; i said "that would be cool"
10:09 fuzzy; basic system utilities build up dependency chains against corporate bloat increasingly
10:09 matey; yeah to be fair
10:10 matey; youre talking about utilities to mess with an architecture no one wants anymore
10:10 fuzzy; even basic ones such as flashrom... haven't got any reasonable explanation, why this realm of embedded software should lock into apple/llvm/clang
10:10 matey; no one WANTS x86
10:10 matey; theyre just stuck with it for now
10:10 matey; x86 IS bloat
10:10 fuzzy; pciutils, to be precise
10:10 matey; the utilities also suck
10:10 matey; pciutils <- pci is x86 afaik
10:10 matey; is there pci for arm too?
10:10 matey; oh of course there is, there must be
10:10 matey; /me shrugs
10:11 fuzzy; and there is no easy way back, once a package created a dependency chain, it remains
10:11 matey; but the flashrom part
10:11 matey; thats x86, its got to be
10:11 mjg59_; matey: pci was never x86 only
10:11 matey; and there is no easy way back <- not "back"
10:11 matey; out
10:11 matey; <mjg59_> matey: pci was never x86 only <- makes sense
10:11 matey; not a hardware guy
10:11 matey; i mean, i get bits and pieces
10:11 mjg59_; It displaced pretty much every other expansion bus by the late 90s
10:11 fuzzy; if a new version of pciutils and/or flashrom are required for some new bios chip, either hacky backporting is necessary, or all of the sudden apple/llvm/clang are required
10:11 mjg59_; flashrom's pretty platform agnostic
10:11 matey; except new shit and occasional graphics stuff
10:11 fuzzy; which it wasn't for decades before, with flashrom
10:11 matey; plus industrial peripherals, maye
10:11 mjg59_; There are some bits that are x86-specific, because the hardware it's talking to may be x86-specific
10:12 matey; sometimes you see weird bus shit
10:12 mjg59_; But the generic interfaces it supports aren't tied to any CPU
10:12 matey; yeah
10:12 matey; as soon as i said it i was like
10:12 matey; "no, that cant be right"
10:12 matey; but it started with talk of flashrom
10:12 matey; and even if hes saying pciutils
10:13 matey; the flashrom stuff has to be x86-specific
10:13 matey; arm would have its own, surely
10:14 fuzzy; the cmake/c++ spreading is a rather innovative approach, to lock into vendors and compilers/versions of those
10:14 fuzzy; and there isn't any other recent distribution anymore, which contained an mplayer, libsdl1, and remained c-only
10:14 fuzzy; for compilation with cproc/tinycc, or any other sane c-compiler
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10:15 matey; at any rate the idea that some guy with gentoo build can create a c-only distro
10:15 matey; but that python 2 cant be maintained by a similar workforce
10:16 matey; is silly
10:16 matey; python 2 is about as much trouble to maintain as pale moon
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10:16 matey; you just patch vulnerabilities
10:16 matey; and if you want to do one better
10:16 fuzzy; i am planning for something else, to remove python entirely from the base system and the build system (and with it remove gentoo tooling entirely)
10:16 fuzzy; and then, anyone may choose to pick any python/pypy freely
10:16 matey; i am planning for something else, to remove python entirely <- not useful to me or anyone who wants to use python
10:17 matey; and then, anyone may choose to pick any python/pypy freely <- of course
10:17 fuzzy; while ago i tried to bootstrap pypy... wasn't possible without a huge binary blob
10:17 matey; well you had the same problem with gcc and llvm too
10:18 matey; so i cant imagine why that wouldnt apply to higher abstractions
10:18 fuzzy; nothing wrong with python, yet i think it doesn't belong into the base-system as build-time dependency anywhere
10:18 matey; i mean, get-pip also has a giant blob in it
10:18 matey; but you can also get the source that builds that blob
10:18 fuzzy; yes, with gcc the problem still exists, at least tcc is known to compile gcc-4.7
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10:18 matey; yet i think it doesn't belong into the base-system <- de raadt would agree with you
10:18 matey; even i might agree it doesnt belong in the base system
10:19 matey; and i think for something as important as openbsd or debian... package management probably shouldnt REQUIRE it either
10:19 matey; apt i believe, requires python
10:20 matey; but it can at least bootstrap its own installation without it, i think
10:20 matey; im not sure at what level its actually required, only that it gets pulled in as a dep
10:20 matey; and if you try to remove python, debian treats it as base
10:20 matey; since python 3 is microgoogle, and debian treats it as base
10:21 fuzzy; with gentoo, exherbo re-implemented a portage-utility (for good reasons)... in C++
10:21 matey; maybe we should call it ibmmicrodebian
10:21 matey; but i already settled on "debiibm"
10:21 matey; debibm rather
10:21 matey; all these projects have become shrines to corporate takeover
10:22 matey; the techrights treatment is not unlike hagbard celines card that says "red" in green letters
10:23 matey; but if you hold it another way it says "green" in red letters
10:24 matey; the way you make such a card is by interlacing both images |||||||||||||||||||||
10:24 matey; then putting a plastic layer of little lenses over that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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10:24 matey; if you tilt it one way, you see the first image
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10:24 matey; tilt it the other, it changes
10:25 matey; you can get stickers like this but you can also make them, if you can figure out how to do the plastic part anyway
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10:27 matey; the cheaper way to do the same optical effect is is to just folder paper accordion-style /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
10:27 matey; and draw the first image on the / / / / / / / / / and the second image on the \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \
10:27 matey; then you dont need the lenses
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10:31 SomeH4x0r; do we have a bridge now?
10:31 matey; someone made a bridge
10:31 matey; i havent paid much attention to it, but ive seen it
10:32 SomeH4x0r; is Solanum.repl an IRC server?
10:32 matey; those are the details i have, other than it was like in the past 24 hours
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11:02 TR News; "When you want a couple copies of a thing, you can 3D print em. When you want a ton of them, you might consider making a mold." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/casting-parts-in-urethane-tips-from-a-master/ | Source: Hackaday
11:02 TR Bot; Parts In Urethane: Tips From A Master | Hackaday
11:02 TR News; "a lot of modern stereo equipment is still missing out on some of the old analog meters" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/teensy-spectrum-analyzer-has-170-channels/ | Source: Hackaday
11:02 TR Bot; Spectrum Analyzer Has 170 Channels | Hackaday
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11:03 TR News; Chafa - terminal graphics image viewer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166334
11:03 TR Bot; Chafa - terminal graphics image viewer | Tux Machines
11:04 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166335
11:04 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
11:06 TR News; Corporations eat up everything https://truthout.org/articles/dont-let-corporations-profit-from-our-inflation-pain/ | Source: TruthOut
11:06 TR Bot; Don't Let Corporations Profit From Our Inflation Pain
11:06 TR News; Tax evaders, never imprisoned for it https://truthout.org/articles/a-tiktok-investor-has-avoided-1-billion-in-taxes-now-hes-a-gop-megadonor/ | Source: TruthOut
11:06 TR Bot; A TikTok Investor Has Avoided $1 Billion in Taxes. Now Hes a GOP Megadonor.
11:07 TR News; Corporate Profits https://truthout.org/articles/corporate-profits-soared-to-highest-levels-in-7-decades-last-year/ | Source: TruthOut
11:07 TR Bot; Corporate Profits Soared to Highest Levels in 7 Decades Last Year
11:07 TR News; "Cops love secrecy" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/appeals-court-tells-police-union-its-contract-doesnt-supersede-state-public-records-laws/ | Source: Techdirt
11:07 TR Bot; Court Tells Police Union Its Contract Doesnt Supersede State Public Records Laws | Techdirt
11:08 TR News; "If youve ever thought about 3D printing shoes, youll enjoy watching the video" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/inside-3d-printing-shoes/ | Source: Hackaday
11:08 TR Bot; 3D Printing Shoes | Hackaday
11:09 TR News; "Today you will find microcontrollers in your car" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/21/plastic-cpus-will-bend-to-your-will/ | Source: Hackaday http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/
11:09 TR Bot; CPUs Will Bend To Your Will | Hackaday
11:09 TR Bot; Index: Loss of Control Over Cars | Techrights
11:12 TR News; Techrights joined freenode around the time it had 50k users online https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode
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11:13 TR News; At over 500 (threshold >50 online users) IRC now has more networks out there than it has had in years https://netsplit.de/networks/
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11:15 TR News; The w3.org IRC network continues too grow. WWW is becoming a bloated pig, maybe they'll take a lesson from IRC. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=w3.org
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11:17 TR News; IRC will likely benefit from the demise of Freenode. It will mean more pertinent (smaller) networks. NordicIRC peaked around 5 years ago, but many networks are in fact growing https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=NordicIRC
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11:21 TR News; We don't need to CREATE alternatives to social control media. They were already created in the 1980s. We just need to DEPLOY more of them.
11:22 TR News; Debian-Based Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 Disk Imaging/Cloning Tool Released with Linux 5.18 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166336
11:22 TR Bot; Debian-Based Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 Disk Imaging/Cloning Tool Released with Linux 5.18 | Tux Machines
11:22 TR News; TraceRoute42 https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/interview-with-michal-kasprzak-traceroute42/ | Source: PIA
11:22 TR Bot; Interview With Micha Kasprzak TraceRoute42
11:23 TR News; Taxing the Rich https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/21/taxing-the-rich-to-boost-social-security/ | Source: Scheerpost
11:23 TR Bot; the Rich to Boost Social Security scheerpost.com
11:23 TR News; "Fight Poverty, Not the Poor!" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/21/fight-poverty-not-the-poor-thousands-rally-in-washington-dc/ | Source: Scheerpost
11:23 TR Bot; Poverty, Not the Poor!: Thousands Rally in Washington DC scheerpost.com
11:24 TR News; "A few years ago the Trump DOJ and FCCrubber-stampedthe Sprint T-Mobile merger without heeding expert warnings" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/dishs-new-5g-network-created-by-trump-regulators-to-justify-rubber-stamping-t-mobile-merger-looks-like-a-silly-dud/ | Source: Techdirt
11:24 TR Bot; New 5G Network, Created By Trump Regulators To Justify Rubber Stamping T-Mobile Merger, Looks Like A Silly Dud | Techdirt
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11:50 TR News; "Universal school lunches have been a lifeline for families, especially as corporations price-gouge at the grocery store." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/21/free-school-meal-waivers-set-expire-senate-pushes-857-billion-military-budget | Source: Common Dreams
11:50 TR Bot; Free School Meal Waivers Set to Expire as Senate Pushes $857 Billion Military Budget
11:50 TR News; "A new paper published Tuesday shows that U.S. corporate price markups and profits surged to their highest levels since the 1950s" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/21/study-shows-excess-corporate-profits-us-have-become-widespread | Source: Common Dreams
11:50 TR Bot; Study Shows Excess Corporate Profits in the US Have Become 'Widespread'
11:53 TR News; "My Body, My Data" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/pass-my-body-my-data-act | Source: EFF
11:53 TR Bot; Pass the "My Body, My Data" Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:53 TR News; 2FA bullshit https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/daycare-apps-are-dangerously-insecure | Source: EFF
11:53 TR Bot; Daycare Apps Are Dangerously Insecure | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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12:31 schestowitz_TR; ciphrCat: no more declownflare?
12:31 schestowitz_TR; in irc?
12:32 SomeH4x0r; iirc the link bot did disappear a few months ago
12:32 SomeH4x0r; can't remember why though
12:32 schestowitz_TR; yeah
12:51 TR News; Twitter and copyright https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/twitter-successfully-quashes-sketchy-copyright-subpoena-over-billionaires-critic-on-twitter/ | Source: Techdirt
12:51 TR Bot; Successfully Quashes Sketchy Copyright Subpoena Over Billionaires Critic On Twitter | Techdirt
12:51 TR News; "antitrust bill" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/senators-ask-amy-klobuchar-to-fix-the-content-moderation-loophole-in-her-antitrust-bill/ | Source: Techdirt
12:51 TR Bot; Ask Amy Klobuchar To Fix The Content Moderation Loophole In Her Antitrust Bill | Techdirt
12:56 TR News; CoreCivic and social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/giant-private-prison-company-goes-to-court-to-try-to-get-lawyer-to-stop-tweeting-about-them/ | Source: Techdirt
12:56 TR Bot; Private Prison Company Goes To Court To Try To Get Lawyer To Stop Tweeting About Them | Techdirt
12:57 TR News; ICBM and FSFE really wanted me to stop "tweeting" about them. 1) http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/ 2) http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/
12:57 TR Bot; Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights
12:57 TR Bot; FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights
12:57 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252459
12:57 TR Bot; Ukrainian journalist Maksim Levin killed by Russian military, RSF reports
12:57 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/22/estonian-defence-ministry-russia-simulated-missile-strikes-on-estonia-during-exercises-news "Estonian Defence Ministry: Russia simulated missile strikes on Estonia during exercises"
12:57 TR Bot; .
12:58 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: estonia might fire back
12:58 schestowitz_TR; near you
12:58 schestowitz_TR; they won't take shit from peter II (putin)
12:58 schestowitz_TR; and they're in the EU
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
13:07 TR News; Firefox and its descendants/dependents will be almost extinct in a few years. The WWW is becoming proprietary with DRM on top.
13:08 TR News; W3C is to the WWW what ISO is to document standards http://techrights.org/wiki/ISO
13:08 TR Bot; ISO - Techrights
13:10 TR News; "Content moderation at scale is impossible to do well says my impossibility theorem." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/21/impossibility-theorem-strikes-again-youtube-deletes-january-6th-committee-video/ | Source: Techdirt
13:10 TR Bot; Theorem Strikes Again: YouTube Deletes January 6th Committee Video | Techdirt
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13:52 SomeH4x0r; matey: a person on #digdeeper on Stardust, having nickname fuckpilled, said to also have dropped GNU/Linux in favour of BSD or something
13:53 matey; lol
13:53 matey; its an increasingly common thing
13:53 matey; when debian was at its best
13:53 matey; it was a collection of tools that didnt try to take over everything
13:53 matey; if you didnt like it, you didnt have to run it
13:54 matey; i mean the tool, not either/or the whole damned thing
13:54 matey; not only did you not have to run it, you could just remove it
13:54 matey; its less and less like that now, with so many things
13:54 matey; openbsd at least, and to some degree netbsd (maybe even freebsd, but not as much)
13:54 matey; bsd comes directly from unix
13:55 matey; gnu ran away from unix philosophy and linux shot it in the face
13:55 matey; gnome looted the body
13:55 matey; and gave everything to microsoft
13:55 matey; freebsd is suspect at least, but bsd in general is more like unix
13:55 matey; so the more bullshit gnu/penguinshit gets, the more people say "fuck this, im out"
13:56 matey; they want a computer that works
13:56 matey; they dont want to hold lennarts dick all day while he laughs at their pain
13:56 matey; only so ibm can have big fat wallets made of penguin hide
13:57 matey; something about being pushed around for 7 or 8 fucking years makes people resentful
13:57 matey; i dunno what it is
13:57 matey; lennart can eat a bag of dicks
13:57 *psydruid would be happy to some day find out that GNU/Linux was only popular with former Windows users and current Microsoft allies at the sell-out distribution companies
13:57 matey; would be happy to some day find out that GNU/Linux was only popular with former Windows users <- lol
13:57 matey; whose to say we arent there already?
13:58 matey; /me isnt kidding
13:58 matey; debian is gnome
13:58 matey; gnome is windows
13:59 matey; wannabe windows
13:59 matey; why anyone would wanna be windows... but there it is
14:00 matey; and then for simulating android fuckery you have flatpak and the nonsense that runs on top of
14:00 matey; yo dawg we herd you like shit
14:00 matey; so we put shit in your shit so you an crAPP while you crAPP
14:01 psydruid; GNU/Linux and much of free software already operate in the Microsoft sphere
14:01 matey; open source has been sucking off microsoft for long enough to have a kid and get them into college
14:01 psydruid; I would say let them carry the entire burden of developing and maintaining it for who knows what purpose
14:01 TR News; "The formula scarcity began when the COVID-19 pandemic led to a disruption of ingredient supply chains" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/21/how-corporate-food-monopolies-caused-the-baby-formula-scanda/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:01 TR Bot; Corporate Food Monopolies Caused the Baby Formula Scandal - CounterPunch.org
14:02 TR News; Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/21/free-assange-yes-but-thats-not-nearly-enough/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:02 TR Bot; Assange? Yes, But That's Not Nearly Enough - CounterPunch.org
14:02 matey; what did they think was going to result, if not more or less exactly this?
14:02 matey; this is what they wanted
14:02 matey; this is what it got
14:03 matey; so the original free software was a good thing
14:03 TR News; Bill Gates and fellow criminals pushing patents https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/21/alliance-green-revolution-africa-hurting-farmers-not-helping | Source: Common Dreams
14:03 TR Bot; Opinion | The Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa Is Hurting Farmers, Not Helping | Francesca de Gasparis
14:03 matey; it was a little naive-- but not stupid
14:03 matey; i really do mean a little
14:03 matey; as in only
14:04 matey; over time it got suckered more and more
14:04 matey; that was the plan
14:04 fuzzy; exactly, a modern graphical desktop resembles what windows blesses consumers with
14:04 matey; not for free software, for the counterrevolution
14:04 fuzzy; by design
14:04 matey; thats how counterrevolutions work
14:04 fuzzy; which is flawed
14:04 psydruid; I'm wondering if they will go and ruin BSD after ruining GNU/Linux
14:05 fuzzy; ^ llvm/clang
14:05 matey; I'm wondering if they will go and ruin BSD after ruining GNU/Linux <- thats what roy thinks
14:05 matey; he thinks theres no point in bsd because theyll just fuck that too
14:05 matey; and hes partly right
14:05 psydruid; Is anything ever going to be resistant to these corporate tentacles
14:05 TR News; "small acts of protest, the reactions he gets from his neighbors, and whether hes afraid there might be criminal prosecution in his future" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/21/my-neighbors-fully-support-me | Source: Meduza
14:05 TR Bot; NO TITLE
14:05 matey; theyve already fucked bsd, thats what freebsd is
14:05 matey; Is anything ever going to be resistant <- i think so
14:05 matey; what i was saying about free software in general was
14:05 matey; each revolution is a lesson
14:05 matey; an important lesson
14:06 matey; the history is very fucking important
14:06 fuzzy; anyone knows, if/how much autotools voodoo is contained inside *BSD (without additional ports)
14:06 matey; its our textbook
14:06 fuzzy; or, do *BSD at least avoid the autotools ?
14:06 matey; anyone knows, if/how much autotools voodoo is contained inside *BSD <- your worry is unfounded
14:06 matey; i mean
14:06 matey; if you want a sane build system
14:06 matey; gentoo wasnt the first
14:06 matey; /me doesnt personally like gentoo but respects what theyve done
14:07 fuzzy; autotools are not directly related to the ports/portage system
14:07 matey; exactly
14:07 matey; anyway
14:07 *psydruid doesn't like gentoo or its "developers"
14:07 matey; free software will, as ive been saying for some time now
14:07 matey; i dont just mean today
14:07 matey; split off into two directions
14:07 fuzzy; and gentoo portage simply is the most powerful dependency tracking system, and well maintained too
14:07 matey; the bulk of it, which has been infected with osbs (open source bullshit) for ages
14:08 matey; will fuck off and join the corporate mothership
14:08 matey; its already happened
14:08 matey; it will continue to do so
14:08 matey; the rest will flee this dumpster fire
14:08 matey; some will stay just close enough to it to stay warm
14:08 matey; others have had enough
14:09 fuzzy; at the heart and core of it, gentoo followed the minimalist design rationale, and it's the default too
14:09 fuzzy; the metalog syslogger from gentoo, is a keeper too
14:09 matey; but the thing is
14:09 matey; the lesson was painful
14:09 matey; it hurt, a lot, for years
14:09 matey; some will bullshit and say it never happened, or people exaggerate
14:10 matey; or theyre being "unfair"
14:10 matey; its none of those
14:10 matey; it was well-orchestrated industrial bullshit
14:10 matey; and it decimated free software
14:10 matey; decimated
14:10 matey; but
14:10 matey; thats what free software will be rebuilt from, because thats how important it is
14:11 matey; and those who ACTUALLY give a shit
14:11 matey; rather than opportunists who ACT like they give a shit
14:11 fuzzy; anyway, are you aware of any distribution which rejected the gcc-4.8 bump 2013?
14:11 matey; https://techrights.org/2019/06/03/act-like-a-friend/
14:11 TR Bot; Microsofts Handbook: Know Your Enemies, Act Like a Friend | Techrights
14:11 fuzzy; i only know aboriginal linux (some success with tinycc), oasis linux (cproc), openbsd (pcc)
14:12 matey; those who ACTUALLY give a shit have learned the hard way
14:12 matey; stallman wasnt kidding
14:12 matey; the things he said were probelms really were problems
14:12 matey; hes quiet now
14:12 matey; but the lesson speaks for itself-- as does our history (especially since 2014, maybe earlier)
14:12 matey; and as roy says, it started before that
14:12 matey; but nothing like its been for the past 7 or 8 years
14:12 matey; imo
14:13 schestowitz_TR; it was worse
14:13 matey; the fsf just quit doing their job
14:13 matey; <schestowitz_TR> it was wors <- absolute. bullshit.
14:13 schestowitz_TR; in 2006 for example
14:13 matey; nope
14:13 schestowitz_TR; I call back "bs"
14:13 schestowitz_TR; it was worse in 2006
14:13 matey; THEYRE DEAD!
14:13 matey; they were not dead
14:13 matey; how is NOT DEAD worse than fucking dead?
14:13 matey; stupid
14:13 matey; anyway
14:13 matey; SOME PEOPLE will learn from this
14:13 schestowitz_TR; I see you take disareements very gracefully
14:14 matey; not everyone
14:14 matey; some people will just go in circles forever, with no plan
14:14 schestowitz_TR; 2000: we can barely surf the web
14:14 schestowitz_TR; 2003: gains made
14:14 schestowitz_TR; 2006: vista novell deal
14:14 matey; things were improving, now theyre getting worse
14:14 matey; i mean
14:14 schestowitz_TR; extrortion until much later
14:14 schestowitz_TR; alice/sec 101 2014
14:14 matey; you can play with words all day if you like
14:14 schestowitz_TR; SCOTUS
14:15 matey; i remember alice
14:15 schestowitz_TR; 2014 had some good things to it
14:15 matey; remember alice? its a song about alice
14:15 schestowitz_TR; Snowden leaks 2013
14:15 MinceR; who the fuck is alice?
14:15 schestowitz_TR; it's a company
14:15 matey; you can get anything you want at alices restaurant (excepting alice)
14:15 matey; alice helped patent reform
14:15 matey; roy can explain it
14:15 schestowitz_TR; http://groklaw.net/
14:15 TR Bot; Groklaw - Digging for Truth
14:16 matey; it was a bit of a turning point
14:16 schestowitz_TR; "[PJ: Ask yourself: when the Alice Corp. case was first decided, is this outcome analysts told you to expect? : D ] - Dennis Crouch, Patently O"
14:16 schestowitz_TR; She came from from the last hiatus just to write this
14:16 matey; imo most people who say "alice" are referring to the court case, which was named after the company
14:16 matey; and really the verdict, which was helpful to us
14:16 matey; so one alice is bad, but the outcome was good
14:17 matey; and the outcome is called alice because the company was called alice
14:17 matey; famous court cases are named after the parties involved
14:17 schestowitz_TR; Alice STILL stands
14:17 schestowitz_TR; after all those endless attempts to overturn it
14:17 matey; but those who care about users, not just image
14:17 schestowitz_TR; or hack around it
14:17 matey; will continue to fight, not just try to look good or smooth things over
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14:18 matey; or rewrite history for whatever reason they do that day
14:18 fuzzy; for practical use, there is almost nothing remaining, readily available, as free software operating system, nowadays
14:18 matey; bsd has TWO advantages
14:18 matey; 1. it never became as shit, so its "ahead"
14:18 matey; 2. it never loved bloat as much as gnu/linux/windows (maybe freebsd, i dont know)
14:18 matey; so its FORKABLE
14:18 TR News; Rare Earth https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/21/the-rare-earth-dilemma/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:18 TR Bot; Rare Earth Dilemma - CounterPunch.org
14:18 fuzzy; the typical, bsd,debian, redhat whatnot, sell a facade of freedom
14:18 matey; as in people actually fork it (they dont do that with linux)
14:19 matey; <fuzzy> the typical, bsd,debian, redhat whatnot, sell a facade of freedom <- you lump EVERYTHING EVERYTHING together
14:19 fuzzy; it is a summary, of all details collected and discussed
14:19 matey; and you take days or weeks to do it, while ive spent years poking at such connections
14:19 schestowitz_TR; android partly forked the kernel
14:19 matey; but its good someones so sceptical
14:20 schestowitz_TR; but as linux was not toally dead
14:20 matey; it gives us a glimpse of what might be ahead
14:20 schestowitz_TR; it paid off to develop upstread
14:20 fuzzy; if you want your testicles squeezed by the pentagon five eyes, go for it, all *BSD, debian etc. ship everything desired
14:20 schestowitz_TR; so gulag played with mainline
14:20 schestowitz_TR; that can change
14:20 schestowitz_TR; like, if linux does something very very evilk
14:20 schestowitz_TR; LF is a force of occupation
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14:20 schestowitz_TR; and now it's adding rust
14:21 matey; if you want your testicles squeezed by the pentagon <- if you intend to be bulletproof to state actors and apts youre going to have to more than just recompile
14:21 matey; start by putting everything in a faraday cage
14:21 matey; then detach your speakers and wifi
14:21 matey; i mean
14:21 matey; cmon
14:21 fuzzy; well then, hack this irc box... tell me when done.
14:22 matey; /me listens to what fuzzy types with a laser on a multimeter connected to housewiring
14:22 matey; what im saying is, if youre that serious, youre half-arsing everything
14:23 matey; but you dont need me to prove it, there are hardware gurus in here that know way more about it
14:23 matey; at best youre working on part of the problem
14:23 matey; and thats great
14:23 matey; dont assume its more than that
14:24 schestowitz_TR; LF is now working with snyk to smear Free software and Linux
14:24 schestowitz_TR; LF is amazing
14:24 schestowitz_TR; amazinglyy corroupt
14:24 schestowitz_TR; pay them money and they will say anything
14:24 matey; free software doesnt even need smearing
14:24 matey; its nearly killed itself
14:24 schestowitz_TR; free software is a concept
14:24 schestowitz_TR; it cannot kill itself
14:24 fuzzy; i removed that much BS from my system in the last month alone, you got no idea what i've got
14:24 schestowitz_TR; it's also a condition
14:25 matey; free software is a concept <- it cannot kill itself <- if that makes you feel better
14:25 matey; i mean
14:25 schestowitz_TR; fuzzy: the police can invade your home
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14:25 matey; if free software is a concept that cant die
14:25 fuzzy; schestowitz_TR: they cannot
14:25 matey; and thats good enough for you
14:25 schestowitz_TR; with "reasonable suspicion"
14:25 matey; they didnt need an fsf to make it a concept
14:25 fuzzy; of what?
14:25 schestowitz_TR; fuzzy: it definitely can
14:25 matey; it was a concept already in the early 80s
14:25 matey; voila, "ITS A CONCEPT" we can go home now
14:25 schestowitz_TR; they are with weapons and legal powers
14:25 matey; so what was all that other work for
14:25 matey; OH
14:25 matey; maybe its MORE than just a concept
14:26 matey; but whatever
14:26 matey; concepts are more useful when applied
14:26 matey; then theyre applications (not just in the software sense, more like in the applied science sense)
14:27 schestowitz_TR; you suggested fs federatrion
14:27 matey; equality is a concept
14:27 matey; it CANT DIE
14:27 schestowitz_TR; to make it harder to take down just one FS advocacy front
14:27 fuzzy; although it isn't that high of a bar... i probably got one of the most secure up-to-date linux system up and running
14:27 matey; you suggested fs federatrion <- to make it harder to take down just one FS advocacy front <- yes
14:27 fuzzy; which is not controlled by the typical corporate pentagon fuzz
14:27 matey; and im surprised at how well thats going
14:27 matey; im like stallman in that im a pessimist
14:27 matey; i dont expect to succeed
14:28 matey; i didnt abandon the idea of federation but things got a lot worse and i moved my own focus
14:28 matey; meanwhile, leah has run farther with the idea than i could have likely dreamt of doing
14:28 matey; i think its in reasonably good hands
14:28 matey; leah didnt get it from me, doesnt matter, leah figured it out on their own
14:28 TR News; "After the log mentioning my playing with CGI scripts, Acidus was nice enough to send me an email with some helpful tips. The jist of it was renaming the script files extention to .cgi and running the command 'chmod 755 script.cgi' to make it executible." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-22-break.gmi
14:28 matey; thats whats great about it! redundancy
14:29 TR News; SpellBinding: CDIMUON Wordo: PLUTO gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-22.gmi
14:29 matey; even better would be if a few more people ran with it-- thats the point of it
14:29 matey; but then you have all these conflicting-- i addressed that too
14:30 matey; https://techrights.org/2020/08/08/the-thrive-guidelines/
14:30 TR News; Removing the "packaging cruft" from the web. Or buying without packaging with Gemini. gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-06-22-packaging-cruft.gmi
14:30 TR Bot; The THRIVE Guidelines | Techrights
14:30 matey; i think its in good hands
14:30 matey; but if its not, its probably fixable
14:30 matey; because its not some top-down thing that can just sell out with no recourse
14:30 TR News; "The dwimmiest sort of all time!" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/dwim-sort
14:32 matey; i dont even talk here about the progress being made
14:32 matey; whats funny is youve read about it and of course, you dont talk about it either
14:32 matey; but thats ok
14:32 matey; i dont need it played up, downplayed, bent back and forth and twisted
14:32 matey; so its cool
14:33 matey; itll happen either way
14:33 matey; on top of all the bullshit there are Natural Forces at work
14:33 matey; people DONT take the same old shit forever
14:34 matey; my radars been on at full power since i started here
14:34 matey; its still going on
14:34 TR News; Rocket.Chat Aims to Replace Skype for Business by Collaborating with Pexip Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166337
14:34 TR Bot; Rocket.Chat Aims to Replace Skype for Business by Collaborating with Pexip | Tux Machines
14:35 matey; but its going to be less about x86 and less about gnu/linux
14:35 matey; more about hardware and USERS controlling their computing
14:35 matey; thats the "concept" free software stands for
14:35 matey; and the fsf doesnt
14:35 TR News; Arm Linux IoT gateway ships with up to 8GB RAM, offers dual GbE, 4G LTE, WiFi 6, BLE 5.3, GNSS connectivity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166338
14:35 TR Bot; Arm Linux IoT gateway ships with up to 8GB RAM, offers dual GbE, 4G LTE, WiFi 6, BLE 5.3, GNSS connectivity | Tux Machines
14:35 matey; the fsf stands for corporations laughing at you and telling you you have to do this, this, this
14:36 matey; sign up for github
14:36 matey; enable javascript
14:36 schestowitz_TR; not really
14:36 matey; upgrade your browser (this one is a good idea, unless its a web brtowser)
14:36 schestowitz_TR; you are aexaggeratijng because FSF spoke on oth issues
14:36 matey; <schestowitz_TR> not really
14:36 schestowitz_TR; JS
14:36 schestowitz_TR; and also created some solutions
14:36 matey; GOOD RETORT
14:36 matey; R> you are aexaggeratijng because FSF spoke on oth issues <-= wank
14:36 schestowitz_TR; it also ranked github worst... many years ago
14:36 fuzzy; what FSF/GNU allowed to happen to their compiler, GCC, which is THE #1 project of theirs
14:36 matey; pure wank!
14:36 matey; just yesteday you implied you knew better
14:36 matey; today you say the opposite
14:36 matey; im used to it
14:37 fuzzy; this alone, GCC and the "progress" made with it...
14:37 matey; its always of the moment with you
14:37 matey; just pull anything out thats convenient
14:37 matey; tomorrow youll change your story AGAIN
14:37 matey; wank wank wank
14:37 schestowitz_TR; I changed nothing
14:37 schestowitz_TR; it's the same position
14:37 fuzzy; the fact, many competent and idealist developers invested alot of time ... this makes it even worse, what happened to GCC
14:37 matey; missionary?
14:37 schestowitz_TR; you are in a different mood
14:37 matey; yeah
14:37 matey; i mean
14:37 matey; i can quote you, and show just how different what you were saying was
14:38 matey; and how its the opposite now
14:38 fuzzy; that's why, FSF/GNU do not want to loose the authority to interpret what "free software" was supposed to be, and what isn't
14:38 matey; but i spent like a whole year doing that
14:38 matey; it gets old
14:38 matey; if you wanna do apologetics for a dead organisation
14:38 matey; just say so
14:38 schestowitz_TR; fuzzy: they have competition with clang now
14:38 matey; then the rest of us will say "ok roy, when you put it that way, the fsf isnt totally bullshit"
14:38 schestowitz_TR; and they would rtaher let gcc became whatever the corporaitona wants it to be
14:38 fuzzy; to lure the precious brain power into what they consider "free software", serving corporate consumerist insanity
14:38 matey; except we wont, because no one is fooled by their bullshit
14:38 matey; except you.
14:38 schestowitz_TR; than to let it be replaced by llvm/bsd
14:38 schestowitz_TR; or mit
14:39 matey; and then when people give you shit about that
14:39 matey; youre like
14:39 matey; the fsf blah blah (imply you understand when really its whatever all the time)
14:39 matey; yes i get it
14:39 matey; then tomorrow you dont
14:39 matey; then the next day you do
14:39 matey; its a pretty obvious pattern
14:39 matey; its fence-riding
14:39 schestowitz_TR; sometimes you act like fsf is the economy
14:39 matey; people-pleasing
14:39 schestowitz_TR; enemy
14:39 schestowitz_TR; not economy
14:40 matey; sometimes you act like fsf is the economy <- what do you think an OCCUPATION (like occupied territory) IS
14:40 matey; its when the area is controlled by the enemy.
14:40 matey; the fsf is open source now
14:40 matey; you can pretend otherwise, i do not care
14:40 schestowitz_TR; no, it is not
14:40 matey; you can be wrong
14:40 matey; <schestowitz_TR> no, it is no <- youre free to be wrong!
14:40 matey; but you WILL deny it later
14:41 matey; same as you did with systemd
14:41 matey; for like a decade.
14:41 matey; or is systemd not a problem again?
14:41 schestowitz_TR; it's a problem
14:41 matey; okay good
14:41 schestowitz_TR; but not the biggest one
14:41 matey; well no i mean
14:41 schestowitz_TR; to me, swpats first
14:41 schestowitz_TR; then some other things
14:41 matey; i think climate change is probably the biggest one...
14:41 schestowitz_TR; like WIndows market share
14:41 schestowitz_TR; systemd later
14:41 matey; yes, systemd AFTER ibm kicks it
14:41 fuzzy; at least, systemd can be coped with, finding a free software C compiler for recent aarch64 hardware, which can compile *bsd and linux
14:41 matey; then its-- no problem.
14:41 fuzzy; good luck finding any
14:41 schestowitz_TR; climate change is a problem to everything
14:42 matey; yes
14:42 matey; i mean theres always something
14:42 schestowitz_TR; not just humans, not just software
14:42 matey; i dont think the human race has ever been truly without an issue
14:42 schestowitz_TR; we do what we can about the climate
14:42 matey; thats a stretch
14:42 schestowitz_TR; recycling everything, minimising purchases, etc.
14:42 schestowitz_TR; not flying since 2018
14:42 matey; oh you mean YOU
14:42 matey; i dont think youre the problem as far as climate change goes
14:43 matey; its definitely systemic
14:43 matey; systemic change is needed
14:43 matey; similarly to free software
14:43 matey; its a systemic issue
14:43 schestowitz_TR; this eyar I quit gulag 100%
14:43 schestowitz_TR; and social control media
14:43 matey; thats great
14:43 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166339
14:43 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:44 matey; i quit pretending the fsf stands for anything
14:44 matey; theyve proven it not to be so
14:44 matey; and its becoming obvious to more people
14:44 matey; its important to not put stock in bullshit, because weve done it for years
14:44 matey; waiting
14:44 matey; and as a result, things have gotten MUCH worse
14:44 matey; people need to "be the change" the fsf refuses to be
14:44 matey; because if they dont, microsoft will continue to
14:45 matey; and the fsf wont care.
14:45 fuzzy; the FSF/GNU stood for GCC
14:45 matey; thats ibm gcc
14:45 matey; and microsoft llvm
14:45 fuzzy; llvm originated from apple iirc
14:45 matey; sadly most people need one or the other
14:45 matey; everyone i know needs one or the other, at least for now
14:45 matey; except fuzzy
14:45 matey; good luck to him
14:46 matey; i dont know if gcc is forkable
14:46 fuzzy; that's my biggest wish currently, for free software, to get back what we had, 20 years ago
14:46 matey; but its too nearly impossible to compile llvm anyway
14:46 fuzzy; a free software C compiler
14:46 matey; <fuzzy> that's my biggest wish currently, for free software, to get back what we had, 20 years ago <- yeah
14:46 matey; thats going to become increasingly common
14:46 matey; while other people insist its not important
14:47 matey; i mean people wont always agree on the details
14:47 matey; people who are free dont have to all agree on the details
14:47 matey; they still havent merged vi and emacs-- whats up with that!
14:47 matey; oh, wait, freedom
14:47 matey; maybe lennart can
14:47 matey; who cant a big turd, polish it like gold?
14:47 matey; take a working system and destroy it cause "its old"
14:48 matey; the poetterman can cause hes full of fucking poo
14:48 matey; and makes init fail on shutdown
14:48 matey; last line needs work
14:48 matey; but you get the idea
14:48 fuzzy; the corporate creep into GNU/GTK began with Harfbuzz, not systemd
14:48 matey; i mean, gnu/linux is fucked from the moment you turn it on
14:48 matey; BEFORE YOU GET A SHELL!
14:49 matey; but who cares, its not what we need to work on
14:49 fuzzy; harfbuzz, is even worse, somehow, because i could remove _all_ systemd clutter and retain x11/gtk3
14:49 matey; users can just "to dick" until... roy thinks its important
14:49 matey; hahaha
14:49 fuzzy; i could not replace harfbuzz with anything sane
14:49 matey; i hope they have another decade
14:49 matey; harfbuzz is MOSTLY some other thing (also github based)
14:49 matey; look up the deps, its pretty obvious
14:49 matey; or just avoid it if you can
14:49 matey; i want devanagari support
14:50 matey; im not a harfbuzz fan but i know a tricky dep when i see one
14:50 fuzzy; wiped it entirely, never again will i use any system with GTK2/3 or QT
14:50 matey; the author is a dick too
14:50 matey; maybe someone will fork it eventually
14:50 matey; youre just like "no unicode for me!"
14:50 matey; i mean, it should be optional, sure
14:50 matey; so good thing people work on that
14:50 matey; making things optional
14:51 matey; some people DO think its important
14:51 matey; good
14:51 matey; thats what we need
14:51 fuzzy; of cause not, i integrated and hacked together yaft+dvtm for extended unicode support on linux framebuffer
14:51 fuzzy; and so far, yaft passed the unicode tests just fine
14:51 fuzzy; except for hebrew/farsi/hindi, which tbh., isn't my responsibility to implement
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15:02 TR News; Links 22/06/2022: Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/clonezilla-live-3-0-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/clonezilla-live-3-0-1/
15:02 TR Bot; Links 22/06/2022: Clonezilla Live 3.0.1 | Techrights
15:03 MinceR; https://assets.amuniversal.com/5b42f990c8d5013aaf74005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-15 )
15:03 TR Bot; Comic Strip on 2022-06-15 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
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15:20 TR News; How to Bypass Internet Censorship - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ThTLjzlMu2o Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
15:20 TR Bot; How to Bypass Internet Censorship - Invidious
15:22 TR News; shred command: makes files unrecoverable in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166340
15:22 TR Bot; shred command: makes files unrecoverable in Linux | Tux Machines
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15:25 TR News; "We are still observing a relatively low rate of addition of verified/playable games for the Steam Deck. We are now more than 3500 games validated (3510 games to be precise at the time of publication) on the Steam Deck in two categories..." https://boilingsteam.com/3500-games-now-on-the-steam-deck-with-kao-the-kangaroo-2022-and-moonlighter-verified/
15:25 TR Bot; 3500 Games Now On The Steam Deck with Kao the Kangaroo (2022) and Moonlighter Verified - Boiling Steam
15:26 TR News; AMD makes a little change in Microsoft GitHub (proprietary), Larabel pounces at it to make "article"
15:27 TR News; Using Linux System Roles to implement Clevis and Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/using-linux-system-roles-to-implement-clevis-and-tang-for-automated-luks-volume-unlocking/ Source: Fedora | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linuxmagazine
15:27 TR Bot; Using Linux System Roles to implement Clevis and Tang for automated LUKS volume unlocking - Fedora Magazine
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15:28 TR News; Complete separation between boot-manager and EasyOS https://bkhome.org/news/202206/complete-separation-between-boot-manager-and-easyos.html
15:28 TR Bot; Complete separation between boot-manager and EasyOS
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:32 TR News; Bruce Schneier continues to repeat talking points and misuse the term "backdoor" (it's not a back door, it is malware) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/symbiote-backdoor-in-linux.html
15:32 TR Bot; Backdoor in Linux - Schneier on Security
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15:37 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/06/there-is-no-cat-in-this-image/
15:37 TR Bot; There Are Definitely No Cats In Any Of These Images (40 Pics)
15:41 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166341
15:41 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:44 TR News; ICBM Red Hat: from working for Adolf Hitler to working with those who literally FUND ISIS https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/ericsson-and-red-hat-empower-service-providers-build-multi-vendor-networks
15:44 TR Bot; Ericsson and Red Hat empower service providers to build multi-vendor networks
15:45 TR News; "transformation" = more complexity and more vendor lock-in, more expenses associated with ICBM https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/4-ways-digital-transformation-has-changed-how-business-done
15:45 TR Bot; 4 ways digital transformation has changed how business is done | The Enterprisers Project
15:46 TR News; Red Hat is modeling itself like Microsoft? "In February, Microsoft revealed its hybrid working strategy, and last month, IBM shared its Return to Workplace Playbook" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/how-create-return-office-playbook-your-it-team
15:46 TR Bot; How to create a return-to-office playbook for your IT team | The Enterprisers Project
15:49 TR News; "Since the COVID19 pandemic started, the printing has gone to a whole different level though. The M1 money supply has almost doubled since. What that means for inflation is heavily argued about by different sides." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8528
15:51 TR News; OpenWRT: D-Link DGS-1210-28 ... coming soon https://openwrt.org/dgs-1210-28?rev=1655895659&do=diff
15:51 TR Bot; [OpenWrt Wiki] D-Link DGS-1210-28
15:52 TR News; Linux kernel manged to turn 30, but that's it. Before it turns 31 it becomes krust. Microsoft shithub (proprietary) and bloat.
15:54 TR News; Microsoft's coy concern trolls all over the media, pretending to cover "Linux" while actually attacking it
15:55 TR News; Microsoft knows that for its attacks Linux to be more effective and seem credible it needs to seem like it's not Microsoft doing it, hence the concern trolls
15:55 TR News; Graphical desktop system X Window turns 38 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166342
15:55 TR Bot; Graphical desktop system X Window turns 38 | Tux Machines
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15:56 TR News; 21.3 of Arch Linux derivative Manjaro released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166220#comment-34101
15:56 TR Bot; Manjaro 21.3 "Ruah" Brings Refreshed Desktop Environments | Tux Machines
15:57 TR News; "Pull signature checking selftest from David Howells" https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=0273fd423b2fe10af96ff713273137c63a7736c0
15:57 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
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16:05 TR News; So Far Today 67% of Phoronix Articles Are About AMD | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/phoronix-amd/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/phoronix-amd/
16:05 TR Bot; So Far Today 67% of Phoronix Articles Are About AMD | Techrights
16:06 schestowitz_TR; at last microbell has a "RealJob"(TM)
16:06 schestowitz_TR; AMD marketer
16:08 TR News; This is not progress. It could technically be done decades ago. THIS IS A RACE TO THE BOTTOM. It's an assault on society, an attack on customers, and abolishments of human dignity etc. https://www.maketecheasier.com/amazon-drone-delivery-service/
16:08 TR Bot; Amazon Chooses 1st Location for Drone Delivery Service - Make Tech Easier
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16:12 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-6-22-21.jpg
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16:13 TR News; Train strikes hard. Hard NOT to sympathise with the strikers. Last time we took the train was when COVID-19 was young (Jan 2020).
16:15 TR News; No. "Cloud-based site backups". That's a DATA BREACH. Clown computing = security compromised. https://thishosting.rocks/useful-web-hosting-tips-that-can-help-secure-your-site/
16:15 TR Bot; Useful web hosting tips that can help secure your site
16:16 TR News; We already saw what clown computing means when AWS deplatformed Wikileaks for exposing massive corruption and war crimes 12 years ago. The person who kicked out Wikileaks for exposing all those crimes has since then become the world's richest.
16:17 TR News; If you like clown computing, then congratulations. You know nothing about computing and you've been indoctrinated to become a stooge or a 'useful idiot' of the Security State, not real security
16:18 TR News; This is what Zemlin & The Frauds are 'teaching' https://linuxfoundation.org/compliance-and-security/learn-the-principles-of-devsecops-in-new-free-training-course/
16:18 TR Bot; Learn the Principles of DevSecOps in New, Free Training Course - Linux Foundation
16:19 TR News; "Making backups on Google" is NOT security advice. It's basically tell you to jump off the cliff.
16:21 TR News; OpenSSF (former Microsoft) telling you to deny people who want to run applications of their choice; they call that "security" https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/free-training-course-teaches-how-to-secure-a-software-supply-chain-with-sigstore%EF%BF%BC/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
16:21 TR Bot; Free Training Course Teaches How to Secure a Software Supply Chain with Sigstore - Linux Foundation
16:21 TR Bot; With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
16:22 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation: promoting NSA back doors agenda while overcompensating with nonsensical buzzwords that have camelCase int hem
16:24 TR News; Pushing the "talent gap" canard https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/open-source-technology-careers-become-more-lucrative-as-open-source-software-becomes-dominant-and-talent-gaps-persist/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/lfs101x-revisionism/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/linux-falsehoods-and-indoctrination/
16:24 TR Bot; Open Source Technology Careers Become More Lucrative as Open Source Software Becomes Dominant and Talent Gaps Persist - Linux Foundation
16:24 TR Bot; What the Linux Foundation Teaches People About GNU/Linux in LinuxFoundationX (edX) LFS101x Introduction to Linux [sic] | Techrights
16:24 TR Bot; LinuxFoundationX (edX) LFS101x Introduction to Linux is More Linux Foundation Marketing and Linux Revisionism Than Actual Training/Teaching | Techrights
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16:25 TR News; edX should rebrand, maybe adX
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16:27 TR News; The employment crisis isn't a "skills shortage" or "labour shortage" crisis but a crisis of underpaid workers whose skills are lied about to lower the salaries further, then laying them off and blaming it on them ("Great Resignation"). In some countries real unemployment rate is about 50%.
16:29 TR News; Linux Foundation is a front group for billionaires, oppressing the community that did all the work free of charge https://linuxfoundation.org/compliance-and-security/learn-the-principles-of-devsecops-in-new-free-training-course/
16:29 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/22/the_x_window_system_just/
16:29 TR Bot; Graphical desktop system X Window turns 38 The Register
16:30 TR News; Linux Foundation is led by chronic liars who forge/fabricate their qualifications. It's the LIE-NOX Foundation. http://techrights.org/2019/08/14/linux-foundation-chief/
16:30 TR Bot; Wrong Person in Charge of the Linux Foundation (and in Charge of Linus Torvalds) | Techrights
16:31 TR News; Zemlin and the Frauds have even used Wikipedia to spread disinformation, to lie about themselves, e.g. year LF was founded. Of course they lie about GNU all the time. All the time.
16:32 TR News; Zemlin is no better than the "crypto" bros who claim to have invented things they never did. But Zemlin gets away with it because he keeps bribing the media using LF budget. They protect THEIR fraud.
16:33 TR News; Little AMD (in relative terms its a small company) getting its moneys worth? http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/phoronix-amd/ After posting many AMD job ads at Phoronix it seems like Michael himself was implicitly 'hired'
16:33 TR Bot; So Far Today 67% of Phoronix Articles Are About AMD | Techrights
16:34 TR News; EU court limits air travel surveillance to the strictly necessary - EURACTIV.com https://www.euractiv.com/section/data-protection/news/eu-court-limits-air-travel-surveillance-to-the-strictly-necessary/ caution: the publisher euractiv bagged bribes from a famous criminal and child sex trafficking enabler (Bill Gates)
16:34 TR Bot; court limits air travel surveillance to the strictly necessary EURACTIV.com
16:35 TR News; Hack Week starts Hacking for Humanity next week https://news.opensuse.org/2022/06/22/hw-starts-hacking-nw/
16:35 TR Bot; Hack Week starts Hacking for Humanity next week - openSUSE News
16:36 TR News; Draft: Deep colour support (!1756) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1756 Source: gitlab
16:36 TR Bot; Draft: Deep colour support (!1756) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab
16:37 TR News; Sourceware GNU Toolchain Infrastructure roadmap https://gnu.wildebeest.org/blog/mjw/2022/06/22/sourceware-gnu-toolchain-infrastructure-roadmap/
16:37 TR Bot; Mark J. Wielaard Blog Archive Sourceware GNU Toolchain Infrastructure roadmap
16:38 TR News; "Infrastructure and platforms are rapidly evolving. Not so long ago, infrastructure was not as complex, and it was easy to manage." Because ICBM Red Hat et al want to make things break a little and then sell "support" https://opensource.com/article/22/6/change-management-site-reliability-engineers
16:38 TR Bot; site reliability engineer's guide to change management | Opensource.com
16:40 TR News; Striving to kill the Elephant to shoehorn more complexity https://containerjournal.com/features/big-data-on-kubernetes-the-end-for-hadoop/
16:40 TR Bot; Big Data on Kubernetes: The End For Hadoop? - Container Journal
16:40 TR News; The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache InLong as a Top-Level Project https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-software-foundation-announces84
16:40 TR Bot; The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache InLong as a Top-Level Project : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
16:42 TR News; Ubuntu Touch OTA-23 Is Coming on June 28th with FM Radio Expansion, Lomiri Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166343
16:42 TR Bot; Ubuntu Touch OTA-23 Is Coming on June 28th with FM Radio Expansion, Lomiri Fixes | Tux Machines
16:42 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.18.6, 5.15.49, 5.10.124, and 5.4.200 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166344
16:42 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.18.6, 5.15.49, 5.10.124, and 5.4.200 | Tux Machines
16:48 TR News; England: With COVID-19 Hospitalisations Up 37% in the Past Week Alone We're Back to 1,000+ Hospitalisations Per Day https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/22/england-hospital-strain/
16:48 TR Bot; Blog Archive England: With COVID-19 Hospitalisations Up 37% in the Past Week Alone Were Back to 1,000+ Hospitalisations Per Day
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16:51 TR News; Hey, Amber Ankerholz, since when is Forrester an expert in "Open Source"? https://www.fosslife.org/how-develop-open-source-strategy see http://techrights.org/wiki/Forrester
16:51 TR Bot; How to Develop an Open Source Strategy
16:51 TR Bot; Forrester - Techrights
16:52 TR News; We're meant to think Microsoft-funded anti-FOSS shills are those who should be lecturing us. That's the "Linux Foundation club"...
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16:55 TR News; OPI outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software of course... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166292#comment-34102
16:55 TR Bot; Introduction of Open Programmable Infrastructure (OPI) Project | Tux Machines
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16:58 TR News; SG90 Servo Motor Interfacing with Arduino Uno https://peppe8o.com/sg90-servo-motor-interfacing-with-arduino-uno/ Source: peppe8o
16:58 TR Bot; SG90 Servo Motor Interfacing with Arduino Uno
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17:00 schestowitz_TR; oops
17:00 schestowitz_TR; wrong user
17:00 schestowitz_TR; that's what I don't like about this idiot bot he brought here
17:05 TR News; ESP32-C5 RISC-V IoT MCU supports dual-band WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0 LE - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/22/esp32-c5-risc-v-iot-mcu-dual-band-wifi-6-bluetooth-le/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
17:05 TR Bot; ESP32-C5 RISC-V IoT MCU supports dual-band WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0 LE - CNX Software
17:08 TR News; For COVID-19 its only summer. Worse summer than 2021 and 2020. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/22/england-hospital-strain/
17:08 TR Bot; Blog Archive England: With COVID-19 Hospitalisations Up 37% in the Past Week Alone Were Back to 1,000+ Hospitalisations Per Day
17:22 TR News; Has CISA become a "damage control" or PR department of Microsoft? https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/22/keeping-powershell-measures-use-and-embrace
17:22 TR Bot; Keeping PowerShell: Measures to Use and Embrace | CISA
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17:27 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/Hwb82bT
17:27 TR Bot; dumps of my cats #3: Pandora - Album on Imgur
17:28 TR News; New Article by Richard Stallman: Many Governments Encourage Schools to Let Companies Snoop on Students | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/school-spyware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/school-spyware/
17:28 TR Bot; New Article by Richard Stallman: Many Governments Encourage Schools to Let Companies Snoop on Students | Techrights
17:33 TR News; KaOS 2022.06 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345
17:33 TR Bot; KaOS 2022.06 | Tux Machines
17:35 TR News; Ouch! Do not say "big tech"! You help Microsoft's lobbyists. It's even in the category name! "The GNU Education Team has published a new article by Richard Stallman on the threats of Big Tech in the field of education." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10198
17:35 TR Bot; www.gnu.org - News: New Article by Richard Stallman [Savannah]
17:36 TR News; Chip Maker CEOs Frustrated as $52 Billion Chip Bill Stalls - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/chip-maker-ceos-frustrated-as-52-billion-chip-bill-stalls/ Source: thenewstack
17:36 TR Bot; Chip Maker CEOs Frustrated as $52 Billion Chip Bill Stalls The New Stack
17:37 TR News; "Fedora 36 and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, both released back to back pretty at the same time. Both of these distros are one of the biggest names in the Linux scene. At the same time, they are radically different from each other. But which among them is the best? How they compare against each other?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MKwEBkkb4DY
17:37 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Vs Fedora 36 | The BEST Linux OS of 2022! - Invidious
17:37 TR News; |In this video, I am going to show how to install Manjaro 21.3.0." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WZwRpGnsmGE
17:37 TR Bot; How to install Manjaro 21.3.0 - Invidious
17:45 TR News; Monitoring IV fluid bag levels with the Arduino Portenta H7 and Vision Shield https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/22/monitoring-iv-fluid-bag-levels-with-the-arduino-portenta-h7-and-vision-shield/
17:45 TR Bot; Monitoring IV fluid bag levels with the Arduino Portenta H7 and Vision Shield | Arduino Blog
17:48 TR News; Another reason to boycott Microsoft GitHub https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/21/github_bug_apps/
17:48 TR Bot; How rogue GitHub apps could have hijacked countless repos The Register
17:49 TR News; Flameshot 12.0.0 Released with Movable Layer, New Magnifier and 20+ Bug Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166346
17:49 TR Bot; Flameshot 12.0.0 Released with Movable Layer, New Magnifier and 20+ Bug Fixes | Tux Machines
17:49 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166347
17:49 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
17:50 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers: RISC-V and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166348
17:50 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers: RISC-V and Arduino | Tux Machines
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18:20 Noisytoot; It is possible to disable those annoying join/part/quit/netsplit messages but _9pfs isn't here
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18:27 AdmFubar; https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/06/22/1334242/blockchains-vulnerable-to-tampering-a-darpa-analysis-finds?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
18:27 TR Bot; Blockchains Vulnerable To Tampering, a DARPA Analysis Finds - Slashdot
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:36 MinceR; good to know
18:42 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-22-22-9.jpg
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19:07 TR News; How is this connected to SUSE? https://www.suse.com/c/hack-the-planet-with-a-scholarship-from-redpanda/
19:07 TR Bot; the Planet with a Scholarship from Redpanda | SUSE Communities
19:10 TR News; Video Editors on Ubuntu, FLOSS Alternatives to Premiere and Movie Maker Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166349
19:10 TR Bot; Video Editors on Ubuntu, FLOSS Alternatives to Premiere and Movie Maker | Tux Machines
19:10 TR News; All-in on PipeWire for openSUSE Tumbleweed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166350
19:10 TR Bot; All-in on PipeWire for openSUSE Tumbleweed | Tux Machines
19:11 TR News; "This brings me to how Twitch in particular will or wont get by. Over the last year or so, it has become obvious that their corporate overlords at Amazon want Twitch to get serious about making a profit." gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/recession-twitch.gmi
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19:16 TR News; Imagination unveils IMG RTXM-2200 32-bit RISC-V real-time "Catapult" CPU Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166351
19:16 TR Bot; Imagination unveils IMG RTXM-2200 32-bit RISC-V real-time "Catapult" CPU | Tux Machines
19:19 TR News; "The website Orkut.com is a site youve probably visited even if it feels like a vague memory today. It is Googles first attempt at a social network, and one that became a success largely by chance; it started with modest goals and grew pretty quickly, although it never reached Facebook scale." https://tedium.co/2022/06/22/10-failed-social-networks/
19:19 TR Bot; 10 Social Networks That Didnt Make It
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19:20 TR News; Linux and Linux Foundation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166352
19:20 TR Bot; Linux and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines
19:20 TR News; Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166353
19:20 TR Bot; Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:20 Noisytoot; If you want a properly configured bridge to pissnet that does not cause botloops, announce every join/part/quit/netsplit, or constantly flood itself off because of the botloops, I can set one up.
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19:21 TR News; "Human Rights Watch studied 164 software programs and web sites recommended by various governments for schools to make students use. It found that 146 of them gave data to advertising and tracking companies." http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/school-spyware/
19:21 TR Bot; New Article by Richard Stallman: Many Governments Encourage Schools to Let Companies Snoop on Students | Techrights
19:22 TR News; How To Install The Etherpad Collaborative Note-Taking Platform On Linux https://newsupdate.uk/how-to-install-the-etherpad-collaborative-note-taking-platform-on-linux/
19:22 TR Bot; How to install the Etherpad collaborative note-taking platform on Linux - News Update
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19:26 schestowitz; Noisytoot: no need
19:26 schestowitz; I don't know the person who set that one up
19:26 schestowitz; and did not ask for it
19:26 schestowitz; I even said make it less verbose
19:27 matey; learning by trial and error
19:27 matey; of course...
19:27 matey; you know, they DO HAVE test channels for that
19:27 matey; watch
19:27 matey; /join #testmyannoyingbot
19:28 matey; its all good, but you do wonder sometimes
19:28 matey; "like youre any better"
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19:28 matey; yeah, well [bot] gabrbled nonsense 'ra'dndom;ascII'... blah blah blah
19:28 TR News; "This article is intended to help Oracle Linux users get a basic understanding of Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) and its commands and architecture. PCP will be replacing the legacy tool OSWatcher as Oracles recommended tool for diagnosing and tuning Oracle Linux systems." https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/better-diagnostics-with-performance-co-pilot
19:29 matey; i mean i thought it was perl source
19:29 DaemonFC; I do not feel very good this week. I came home this morning and fell face first into bed and forgot to set my alarm.
19:30 TR News; KDE-Focused KaOS Linux 2022.06 Is Here with the Latest Plasma 5.25 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345#comment-34104
19:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I guess someone else was mad about going to eviction court.
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19:31 DaemonFC; They broke out all the windows in their apartment.
19:31 TR News; TrueNAS 22.02.2 "SCALE" is out https://www.truenas.com/docs/scale/scalereleasenotes/
19:31 DaemonFC; "Oh I don't have to pay you! Here! *crash crash crash crash crash!*
19:32 DaemonFC; It's no wonder that if anything does get fixed up between tenants around here it's with the cheapest stuff you can run down to Menards and pick up.
19:32 TR News; Proprietary software https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/22/cisa-releases-security-advisories-related-oticefall-insecure
19:33 DaemonFC; There's only two kinds of apartments you can rent. Ones where the landlord realizes his tenants are either dealing drugs (and doesn't want to know) or working at McDonalds and "luxury" apartments where they put in new countertops, so that'll be $3,000 a month.
19:34 DaemonFC; I've had a constant battle with black mold down here.
19:34 DaemonFC; I bleach it, it goes away, it comes back. THe dehumidifier seems to be really slowing it down.
19:36 DaemonFC; Those are supposed to be a "temporary" fix until you can get to the source of the humidity. It's already pretty dank down here because it's a basement with crappy airflow.
19:37 DaemonFC; But then I had to tape over the ventilator fan in the bathroom to prevent pot and nasty cigarettes from coming in from the neighbors. There's no way to prove which neighbors are doing it, but I think it's the lady over in 100 because I smelled a ton of weed in the air near her door the other day. Then again, everyone here except us smokes weed.
19:37 TR News; >Linux Lite 6.0 Based On Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166319#comment-34105
19:38 DaemonFC; I made the mistake of coming home too late last night so the only spaces left were where the birds shit on your car, or further in, where it's almost impossible to back up without hitting someone.
19:38 TR News; How to properly adopt and manage Kubernetes in production https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/06/20/managing-kubernetes-in-production-video/
19:38 DaemonFC; There's really not much room to move around in this region of the country and I had a few 2-3 mph mishaps where it didn't damage anything so oh well.
19:39 DaemonFC; But not with the Buick. I have some sort of radar in there that assists with parking and backing up. It dings at you angrily if you get too close to something.
19:39 DaemonFC; Fenders and bumpers have a hard life around here.
19:40 DaemonFC; I don't get it. This place went in back in 1977. People still drove cars that were like 1.7 of the Buick.
19:40 DaemonFC; How did THEY get in and out?
19:43 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictutres-6-21-22-9.jpg
19:43 psydroid2; lol
19:43 TR News; TrueNAS SCALE adds SMB Clustering and HA in 2nd Major Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166354
19:43 psydroid2; what exactly is LinkedIn?
19:43 psydroid2; https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-does-pacman-frog-eat-list-foods-junayed-sebly
19:44 TR News; Server: InLong and Kubernetes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166355
19:44 psydroid2; that looks more like the garbage on the Mozilla blog
19:44 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166356
19:44 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166356
19:45 MinceR; MICROS~1's attempt to get and hoard more private data after Monkey Boy threw chairs over not managing to hoard as much private data as gulag did and after allying with faecesbook to try and make up for it
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19:45 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
19:47 TR News; David REVOY: Two signing session this week: Paris and Amiens https://www.davidrevoy.com/article915/two-signing-session-this-week-paris-and-amiens is he that famous?
19:47 TR Bot; Two signing session this week: Paris and Amiens - David Revoy
19:47 MinceR; who cares
19:47 TR News; [PATCH v2 00/12] powerpc: Nintendo Wii U support - Ash Logan https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220622131037.57604-1-ash@heyquark.com/ Source: heyquark
19:47 TR Bot; [PATCH v2 00/12] powerpc: Nintendo Wii U support - Ash Logan
19:48 psydroid2; who the fuck is David?
19:48 psydroid2; Alice's neighbour?
19:53 TR News; VKD3D 1.4 Released https://source.winehq.org/git/vkd3d.git/commit/9d4df5e70468b4bfe4666bf926cedb5f685394cc
19:53 TR Bot; Git - vkd3d.git/commit
19:57 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166357
19:57 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:57 TR News; XnView - Small, feisty and powerful Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166358
19:57 TR Bot; XnView - Small, feisty and powerful | Tux Machines
19:57 TR News; Videos: #HowTo install Manjaro 21.3.0 and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Compared to Fedora 36 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166359
19:57 TR Bot; Videos: How to install Manjaro 21.3.0 and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Compared to Fedora 36 | Tux Machines
20:02 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/22/lawmakers-propose-incorporating-russias-national-guard-into-video-games-to-improve-its-image-news "Lawmakers propose incorporating Russias National Guard into video games to improve its image"
20:02 TR Bot; .
20:02 TR News; How I would sell OpenBSD as a salesperson gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-selling-arguments.gmi
20:03 TR News; On Hork-Bajir language gemini://november.smol.pub/hork-bajir
20:23 TR News; Links 22/06/2022: Flameshot 12.0.0 and KaOS 2022.06 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/flameshot-12-0-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/flameshot-12-0-0/
20:23 TR Bot; Links 22/06/2022: Flameshot 12.0.0 and KaOS 2022.06 | Techrights
20:24 TR News; Programming/Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166360
20:24 TR Bot; Programming/Development | Tux Machines
20:26 matey; over not managing to hoard as much private data <- hes stupid isnt he
20:26 matey; lets hoard data!
20:26 matey; lets co-opt a seearch engine that works with tor!
20:26 matey; lets watch basketball and rub players thighs!
20:26 matey; pick two ffs
20:30 schestowitz_TR; and I told him to two thighs of two people
20:30 schestowitz_TR; that makes -3some
20:30 schestowitz_TR; ballmer, ms ceo
20:30 schestowitz_TR; how apt
20:30 schestowitz_TR; look at "microsoft kipman"
20:31 schestowitz_TR; a company run by perverts
20:31 schestowitz_TR; telling us fs need a coc
20:31 schestowitz_TR; and rms is bad for staring
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21:11 TR News; The Future of the EPOs Work-to-Rule Industrial Action (Examiners Following the Law Rather Than Unlawful Instructions From Management) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/unfit-to-lead-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/unfit-to-lead-epo/
21:11 TR Bot; The Future of the EPOs Work-to-Rule Industrial Action (Examiners Following the Law Rather Than Unlawful Instructions From Management) | Techrights
21:11 DaemonFC; Walmart forgot 2 things on my pickup order and gave me a damaged can.
21:11 DaemonFC; Their website issued refunds for all of it though, so there's that.
21:11 DaemonFC; Mandy said they trained people on not picking damaged cans.
21:11 DaemonFC; They just throw whatever in there and close the order out, bunch of retards.
21:15 DaemonFC; $4.29 in damaged and missing merchandise out of a $127 order is not acceptable.
21:16 DaemonFC; When I worked there, we'd get reamed out if our fabric department came in over or under by more than a 1% variance at inventory.
21:17 DaemonFC; In addition, they accidentally gave me a couple of items I didn't order, but it doesn't seem like I was billed for, including a bottle of "slightly sweet" iced tea and an extra bottle of garlic powder, I'm assuming instead of the bottle of mustard powder that went missing.
21:18 DaemonFC; Thankfully, I have a little mustard powder left. I guess I'll go in the store tomorrow and pull it myself. Their spice aisle is a complete mess because they have different sizes, brands, organic and non organic.
21:18 DaemonFC; So it takes up like 4 times the space that it should, and nothing is ever where it should go.
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21:24 TR News; [Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/
21:24 TR Bot; [Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights
21:24 TR News; [Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/
21:25 TR News; KaOS Linux 2022.06 Released with KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop and Calamares 3.3 Installer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166362
21:25 TR Bot; KaOS Linux 2022.06 Released with KDE Plasma 5.25 Desktop and Calamares 3.3 Installer | Tux Machines
21:25 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166361
21:25 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:45 DaemonFC; Oh my god I hate carpet.
21:45 DaemonFC; I've been over this with pet mess shampoo, vinegar water in the shampooer, and now baking soda srubbed into the floor.
21:45 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/joe.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-joe#comic )
21:45 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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22:04 TR News; At the EPO, Bringing Teams Together or New Management of Office Space is Another Step Towards EPO Outsourcing http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/at-the-epo-bringing-teams-together-or-new-management-of-office-space-is-another-step-towards-epo-outsourcing/
22:04 TR Bot; At the EPO, Bringing Teams Together or New Management of Office Space is Another Step Towards EPO Outsourcing | Techrights
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22:17 TR News; [Meme] Executing the EPC (as in Killing It, Not Following It) | Gemini address: [Meme] Executing the EPC (as in Killing It, Not Following It)
22:17 TR News; Gemini on ESP32 gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/gemini-on-esp32.gmi
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22:19 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/lErepvf.jpeg
22:39 TR News; EPO Management Severely Harms the Health of Staff by Bullying Them | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/bullying-epo-staff/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/bullying-epo-staff/
22:39 TR Bot; EPO Management Severely Harms the Health of Staff by Bullying Them | Techrights
22:54 DaemonFC; Okay, I left it on for 2 hours and vacuumed it all up.
22:54 DaemonFC; Seems to smell better over there. We'll see if I keep getting whiffs of cat piss.
22:54 DaemonFC; Everything I use on it makes it smell better, but it's hard to get it all.
22:55 DaemonFC; The enzyme cleaners, the vinegar, now the baking soda.
22:55 TR News; [Meme] Trying to Circumvent the European Patent Convention is Like Playing With Fire | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/antonio-campinos-playing-with-fire/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/antonio-campinos-playing-with-fire/
22:55 DaemonFC; It's like you can get 98.5% of it but once the cat has done something it's there.
22:55 TR Bot; [Meme] Trying to Circumvent the European Patent Convention is Like Playing With Fire | Techrights
22:56 DaemonFC; MinceR, I'm good with 98-99%. I just don't want the landlord to come over for something or to sign a new lease and go "Fwaaaaah!!!!" as soon as I open the door.
22:57 DaemonFC; https://videocardz.com/newz/crypto-crash-forces-miners-to-sell-hundreds-of-graphics-cards-during-livestreamed-auctions
22:57 TR Bot; crash forces miners to sell hundreds of graphics cards during livestreamed auctions - VideoCardz.com
22:57 DaemonFC; Dumping graphics cards into the market now.
22:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, ^
22:57 DaemonFC; It's going to be funny seeing Nvidia choking on all of that oversupply that was puffing them up that's all on the market again now.
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:06 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/apple.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-apple#comic )
23:06 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
23:19 TR News; EPO Abolishing Workers Rights and Creating Second-Class Workers in Direct Violation of the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-abolishing-rights/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-abolishing-rights/
23:19 TR Bot; EPO Abolishing Workers Rights and Creating Second-Class Workers in Direct Violation of the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
23:21 TR News; New tea pot gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-06-22%20New%20tea%20pot
23:21 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: I have no use for these
23:24 DaemonFC; Neither do I.
23:24 DaemonFC; This laptop is plenty fast for retro gaming emulators.
23:25 DaemonFC; It can even run Skyrim and Fallout 4, which are both so big you never complete the entire game, even on one character build.
23:25 DaemonFC; You go through it again with a different build, you always find things you missed before, or there's an expansion pack you haven't ever gotten around to.
23:26 DaemonFC; It takes years just to get through one game, you know, sometimes.
23:26 psydruid; It's not just that, electricity costs 0.50 per kWh here now
23:26 DaemonFC; https://abc7chicago.com/copi-asian-carp-new-name-is-edible-illinois/11987699
23:26 TR Bot; Asian carp renamed copi, short for copious, meant to encourage eating as means to control invasive species - ABC7 Chicago
23:27 DaemonFC; Yeah, as electric costs skyrocket, and it becomes harder to mine bitcoin, and the central banks tighten, it's a perfect storm.
23:27 DaemonFC; Bitcoin isn't coming back from this.
23:27 DaemonFC; If you use too much power, especially at odd hours of the day and night, the power company hands over your information to the police.
23:28 DaemonFC; They bust down your door suspecting you of growing marijuana or something.
23:29 DaemonFC; Getting people who can't afford it hopelessly addicted to drugs and gambling is the state's job!
23:29 TR News; The sort of atmosphere that has already led to a suicide wave at the EPO is being reproduced by Antnio Campinos (Monopoly Tony) less than 4 years after he came, just like Benot Battistelli around 2014 http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/unfit-to-lead-epo/
23:29 TR Bot; The Future of the EPOs Work-to-Rule Industrial Action (Examiners Following the Law Rather Than Unlawful Instructions From Management) | Techrights
23:29 DaemonFC; When anyone else does it, it's a crime.
23:29 TR News; Benot Battistellis French buddy Antnio Campinos is destroying whats left of the EPO; as the 50th anniversary approaches its not clear if the EPO has any future at all (laws arent obeyed and new hires arent examiners but a disposable workforce, akin to scabs, that doesnt meet the requirements explicitly specified in the EPC) http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-dumpster-fire/
23:29 TR Bot; [Meme] Battistelli the Second (Battistelli II) | Techrights
23:29 DaemonFC; It's the same with whoremongering.
23:30 DaemonFC; Whenever prostitution is legal, it's taxed and the state is their pimp.
23:30 TR News; The Local Staff Committee Munich (LSC Munich/LSCMN) and Central Staff Committee (CSC) raise awareness of a scheme that may result in only 33% of staff (at best) [having] a permanently allocated desk. http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/at-the-epo-bringing-teams-together-or-new-management-of-office-space-is-another-step-towards-epo-outsourcing/
23:30 TR Bot; At the EPO, Bringing Teams Together or New Management of Office Space is Another Step Towards EPO Outsourcing | Techrights
23:30 TR News; Vichy Battistelli and his French friend have basically killed the EPC, i.e. they committed crimes to turn the EPO into a private bank instead of a patent office; who will hold them accountable and when? http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/executing-epc/
23:30 TR Bot; [Meme] Executing the EPC (as in Killing It, Not Following It) | Techrights
23:30 TR News; EPO management that breaks the law wants the staff to blindly cooperate; failing to achieve full cooperation (in crimes), the managers are increasingly bullying the workers, causing some of them to get ill (in the past this led to a lot of suicides) http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/bullying-epo-staff/
23:30 TR Bot; EPO Management Severely Harms the Health of Staff by Bullying Them | Techrights
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23:34 TR News; The EPOs repeated violations of the European Patent Convention (EPC) will make Antnio Campinos an asylum seeker like his father, seeking political shelter like Benot Battistelli, who virtually went into hiding in 2018 (when his diplomatic immunity ended and his EPO crimes, like the Benalla affair, came to light) http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/antonio-campinos-playing-with-fire/
23:34 TR Bot; [Meme] Trying to Circumvent the European Patent Convention is Like Playing With Fire | Techrights
23:34 TR News; The EPOs presidents Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos have demolished any remnant of EPC compliance; this institution must be reobooted immediately and all the managers sacked if not prosecuted http://techrights.org/2022/06/22/epo-abolishing-rights/
23:34 TR Bot; EPO Abolishing Workers Rights and Creating Second-Class Workers in Direct Violation of the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
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