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beginning of new day, June 17

00:00 XRevan86; Reminder, 2020: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/01/10/it-s-not-a-good-time-to-be-a-nazi-in-russia-today-but-fascists-are-another-story

↺ https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/01/10/it-s-not-a-good-time-to-be-a-nazi-in-russia-today-but-fascists-are-another-story

00:00 TR Bot; NO TITLE

00:02 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/SlopeRocker/status/1537560794648428544#m

↺ https://nitter.net/SlopeRocker/status/1537560794648428544#m

00:02 TR Bot; Nathan Hale (@SlopeRocker): ""|nitter

00:03 XRevan86; Classical joke narrative.

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00:25 TR News; The EPOs Staff Union Cautions the Administrative Council That the Office Once Again Violates the EPC (Typically With the Councils Complicity) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/breaking-the-law-with-professional-mobility/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/16/breaking-the-law-with-professional-mobility/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/breaking-the-law-with-professional-mobility/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/16/breaking-the-law-with-professional-mobility/

00:25 TR Bot; The EPOs Staff Union Cautions the Administrative Council That the Office Once Again Violates the EPC (Typically With the Councils Complicity) | Techrights

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00:31 DaemonFC; Well, dinner was good at least.

00:31 DaemonFC; Been a while since I've had a good brisket.

00:32 TR News; We Need to Focus on This Months Meeting of the EPOs Administrative Council | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/focus-on-epo-abuses/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/16/focus-on-epo-abuses/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/focus-on-epo-abuses/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/16/focus-on-epo-abuses/

00:32 TR Bot; We Need to Focus on This Months Meeting of the EPOs Administrative Council | Techrights

00:33 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/10/morning-funny-pic-dump-6-10-22/

↺ https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/10/morning-funny-pic-dump-6-10-22/

00:33 TR Bot; Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)

00:37 DaemonFC; I'm going to stockpile some more laundry detergent. iBotta has a good rebate on some.

00:37 schestowitz_TR2; i bought a lot

00:37 schestowitz_TR2; and felta kind of bad

00:37 DaemonFC; I don't need it yet, but this turns it to like $1 a bottle for a 24 load bottle off All. So I can do like 5 of those and put them somewhere.

00:38 DaemonFC; Felta....

00:38 schestowitz_TR2; felta kina sad

00:38 schestowitz_TR2; falta kinda

00:38 DaemonFC; He makes up all sorts of bizarre shit as an origin story for his name.

00:38 MinceR; i find it kind of funny, i find it kind of sad

00:38 DaemonFC; Like, it's Nordic or something.

00:38 schestowitz_TR2; your dad kinda felta little sad

00:38 schestowitz_TR2; kinda is an indian name

00:39 schestowitz_TR2; very common

00:39 DaemonFC; Well, he wasn't the first Felta.

00:39 DaemonFC; Social Security records indicate that the first one they know of was born in 1895.

00:39 DaemonFC; And they say there's 1-3 people named that in the entire country per year.

00:40 MinceR; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/felta

↺ https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/felta

00:40 TR Bot; felta - Wiktionary

00:40 MinceR; "fields"

00:40 DaemonFC; Oh my god....

00:40 TR News; Shirtless works even better https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summer-swag

↺ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summer-swag

00:40 TR Bot; Beat the heat with GNU summer swag Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

00:40 DaemonFC; He's so incredibly full of shit I just rolled my eyes at that.

00:41 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166135

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166135

00:41 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

00:42 TR News; What its like to read Techrights without the images and without any of the HTML; we take a look at todays publications (so far 13 posts in total) http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/today-in-techrights/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/today-in-techrights/

00:42 TR Bot; Today in Techrights (But Over Gemini Protocol) | Techrights

00:43 TR News; The delegations are warned in advance that they be be conned into once again breaking the law by authorising unlawful proposals http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/breaking-the-law-with-professional-mobility/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/breaking-the-law-with-professional-mobility/

00:43 TR Bot; The EPOs Staff Union Cautions the Administrative Council That the Office Once Again Violates the EPC (Typically With the Councils Complicity) | Techrights

00:43 TR News; EPO President Antnio Campinos, who throws the "f" word a lot, tells us to FOCUS http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/focus-on-epo-abuses/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/16/focus-on-epo-abuses/

00:43 TR Bot; We Need to Focus on This Months Meeting of the EPOs Administrative Council | Techrights

00:44 TR News; EPO promotes idiots to the top. The more incompetent it becomes, the more fake monopolies it'll grant to oligarchs. They prefer a defunct institution.

00:44 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: what's felta's thetan score?

00:44 schestowitz_TR2; how many to get a black belt?

00:45 schestowitz_TR2; or black blech with beer?

00:45 schestowitz_TR2; *belch

00:45 m1k3io; So what's a good search engine to use if DDG and Startpage aren't trustworthy?

00:46 TR News; What an awful way to communicate https://itwire.com/your-it/apps/snapchat-starts-testing-replies-to-spotlight-video-feature.html

↺ https://itwire.com/your-it/apps/snapchat-starts-testing-replies-to-spotlight-video-feature.html

00:46 TR Bot; - Snapchat starts testing Replies to Spotlight video feature

00:46 schestowitz_TR2; m1k3io: try searx.be

00:47 MinceR; or try other instances from searx.space

00:47 schestowitz_TR2; yes, but many are not reliable

00:47 schestowitz_TR2; I used to use other instances

00:47 m1k3io; Ok thanks for the tip

00:49 TR News; "Sponsored" = SPAM https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/15/1053763/force-multipliers-accelerating-developers-through-platform-software/

↺ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/15/1053763/force-multipliers-accelerating-developers-through-platform-software/

00:49 TR Bot; Force multipliers: accelerating developers through platform software | MIT Technology Review

00:49 TR News; Go programs and Linux glibc versioning https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoAndGlibcVersioning

↺ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoAndGlibcVersioning

00:49 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/GoAndGlibcVersioning

00:50 TR News; Retro Psion 5MX PDA Tweets Via Raspberry Pi Zero | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-psion-5mx Source: tomshardware

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-psion-5mx

00:50 TR Bot; Retro Psion 5MX PDA Tweets Via Raspberry Pi Zero | Tom's Hardware

00:51 TR News; Raspberry Pi Digital Audio Workstation Built From Scratch | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-digital-audio-workstation Source: tomshardware

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-digital-audio-workstation

00:51 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Digital Audio Workstation Built From Scratch | Tom's Hardware

00:52 TR News; That wasn't so bad. I didn't hear you scream [1] this time. gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/16.1

↺ gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/16.1

00:53 TR News; "With climate defeatism, its OK to believe were not gonna make it. Its OK to feel worn down and frustrated and unheard." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/try

↺ gemini://idiomdrottning.org/try

00:54 TR News; "I began personal therapy several weeks ago, whose sessions are scheduled near the end of the workday. Of course it would be inappropriate to discuss personal issues at my workplace, so I found a park close to my office that I can quickly drive to before session started." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220616-exploration.gmi

↺ gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220616-exploration.gmi

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1 AM, June 17

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01:02 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR2> DaemonFC: what's felta's thetan score?

01:02 DaemonFC; Is that like walking up to a Space Invaders console and there's like Tom Cruise at the top and Felta at the bottom?

01:03 DaemonFC; "Many parents trying to keep unvaccinated tots safe have put off family trips or enrolling children in daycare or preschool."

01:03 DaemonFC; LOL

01:03 DaemonFC; They're at more risk on the playground than they are from COVID.

01:04 DaemonFC; So either the "news" is lying or it's a sad commentary about how many wusses are out there and what their perception of danger is, and how far out of whack it is.

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2 AM, June 17

02:01 mjg59_; 1200 children have died of COVID in the US, which is quite a lot larger than the number who die in the playground

02:21 DaemonFC; It's not that much.

02:21 DaemonFC; I mean, when you compare it to car accidents or just the flu or things we really can't do much about, like COVID.

02:22 DaemonFC; Oh, and women getting abortions, which killed at least 50 million children since the late 70s.

02:22 DaemonFC; But who cares, right?

02:22 DaemonFC; All the way up to birth.

02:23 DaemonFC; I like how we draw that line. One minute up to birth? Mom kills them. Fine.

02:23 DaemonFC; 1 minute after birth, COVID gets them. Tragedy!

02:23 DaemonFC; And 1,200 in the entire country isn't a lot.

02:23 DaemonFC; That's over 3 years.

02:24 DaemonFC; The flu kills like 50,000-80,000 Americans per year.

02:24 DaemonFC; I mean, you can't stop everything. It's a force of nature.

02:25 DaemonFC; It's like asking why isn't anyone doing anything about a freak tornado that comes out of the sky with no warning and lands on an Amazon warehouse and kills everyone on third shift?

02:25 DaemonFC; I mean, we would if we could.

02:25 DaemonFC; Tornado prediction isn't that much better than COVID vaccines.

02:26 DaemonFC; I've literally lost count at how many times there was a tornado warning in my area and then nothing happened.

02:26 DaemonFC; So like, expecting a 5 minute warning the time it does to help is ridiculous.

02:26 DaemonFC; Nobody knows it's there until it forms and lands in a matter of a couple of minutes.

02:27 DaemonFC; About all you can do is speak in generalities. "Hey, it's really hot, it's really humid, but there's a cold front coming in and the temperature will drop 40 degrees all of a sudden, and hey, there might be a tornado.

02:27 DaemonFC; Probably not, but maybe.

02:28 DaemonFC; So I really like that you care about whether children live or not all of a sudden, mjg59_

02:28 DaemonFC; Maybe don't send Drunken Nancy and DUI Paul back to Washington.

02:29 MinceR; this is all insignificant to the number of skin cells murdered in exfoliation anyway

02:30 DaemonFC; "I say life begins at arousal! Just as you're planning an evening of vigorous masturbation, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA wants to abort your living, thinking sperm! No fluoride!" -Dan Halen

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02:32 DaemonFC; I'm not that extreme.

02:32 MinceR; lol

02:32 DaemonFC; I was down at the Walgreens today and Plan B, the morning after pill, was $50.

02:32 DaemonFC; $50 goddamned dollars.

02:33 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ

02:33 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ

↺ https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=bzVHjg3AqIQ

02:33 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | Every Sperm is Sacred - Complete - Invidious

02:33 DaemonFC; And there will be plenty of people who for lack of $50 to get a single pill, will have a child that costs $1.58 million dollars, that they really can't afford.

02:33 DaemonFC; And once they do that there's all kinds of programs that steal my tax money to pay for that.

02:34 DaemonFC; I say there's something gone really wrong here.

02:34 DaemonFC; They should be mailing people these pills for free.

02:35 DaemonFC; The Plan B pill only works for 72 hours, and even then, only like 86% of the time, but I'm perfectly comfortable with that, the birth control pill, the condom, I mean, anything you can do to prevent. But once there's a very serious question as to if it's a person, I think we need to defer to the idea that it is a person.

02:36 DaemonFC; In reality, I've met very few conservatives or Christians who are in favor of banning birth control.

02:37 DaemonFC; This is actually just some far-left scare tactic, sort of like "The Handmaid's Tale" where it goes from banning abortions to the Republic of Gilead. I mean, it's a big stretch to say one follows the other.

02:38 DaemonFC; I think that the father absolutely should be allowed to sue anyone who helped abort their child.

02:38 DaemonFC; I'm not really a fan of the Texas law that allows anyone to sue, but I think that the father can show that he was harmed.

02:38 DaemonFC; You know, you kill his child you kill a piece of him.

02:38 DaemonFC; He might not consent to that, you know. Nobody cares. It's just like Family Court. Nobody cares about men's rights.

02:39 DaemonFC; There's two ways to really be hated by the left.

02:39 DaemonFC; Be white, a man, or both.

02:39 DaemonFC; Which is why they've driven off like 73% of white men out of the Democratic Party.

02:39 DaemonFC; It's not some inherent "privilege" we try to protect. It's the fact that they're a bunch of racist male haters who won't leave us alone.

02:40 MinceR; but if you think exfoliation is mass murder, wait till you find out how many bacteria you're murdering every day.

02:40 DaemonFC; By dislodging them with soap?

02:41 MinceR; also by your immune system attacking them

02:41 MinceR; 17 033632 < DaemonFC> In reality, I've met very few conservatives or Christians who are in favor of banning birth control.

02:41 MinceR; they're probably too rich to interact with you

02:41 DaemonFC; Most conservatives aren't rich.

02:41 MinceR; well, except for parts of former president Fraudo Baggins' mob, anyway.

02:41 DaemonFC; They wish the Democrats would take their stinking taxes and let them keep the meager paycheck they have.

02:42 MinceR; the ones who make the laws are rich

02:42 DaemonFC; Which is not an unreasonable request really.

02:42 MinceR; and they're the ones who take action against birth control

02:42 MinceR; 17 033907 < DaemonFC> There's two ways to really be hated by the left.

02:43 MinceR; i think they can find ways even if those don't apply

02:43 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-160622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-160622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-160622.txt

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02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 16, 2022

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02:44 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 16, 2022

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02:45 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 16, 2022

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02:46 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 16, 2022

02:58 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-16.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-16.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

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3 AM, June 17

03:04 DaemonFC; https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/new-bill-amends-illinois-criminal-code-to-specify-someone-is-unable-to-give-consent-when-intoxicated

↺ https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/new-bill-amends-illinois-criminal-code-to-specify-someone-is-unable-to-give-consent-when-intoxicated

03:04 TR Bot; New bill amends Illinois Criminal Code to specify someone is unable to give consent when intoxicated

03:04 DaemonFC; Federally Qualified Health Center.... LOL

03:04 DaemonFC; Like the Lake County Health Department.

03:05 DaemonFC; More like Fucking Quack Health Center.

03:05 DaemonFC; They don't pay the doctors very well, so the result is that they get shitty doctors.

03:06 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 127311 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41161 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 2 weeks 6 days ago

03:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The "We're not gonna make it" thing from the other channel.

03:06 DaemonFC; I was thinking earlier about what's left of my family.

03:07 DaemonFC; Almost nobody my age is having any children.

03:07 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 244 MB TotalOut: 44 MB

03:07 DaemonFC; Either they don't want to, they're gay, they're sterile, or they're socially ostracized. Or some mixture of those things.

03:07 DaemonFC; Very few have any children of their own.

03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:08 DaemonFC; As far as I know, I'm not sterile.

03:08 DaemonFC; But I've never tried, so, who knows.

03:08 DaemonFC; Who cares?

03:09 DaemonFC; Some of the reported side effects of the COVID vaccines are sterility and the vaccine itself inducing an abortion.

03:09 DaemonFC; The government, which lies about everything else, says they don't do that.

03:09 DaemonFC; But who believes them?

03:10 IPFS; Qmcn8x4Vkjq4RTfDYrFVWudBe7iEWFEZjyG4GuSGvXN2jJ

03:10 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.

03:10 DaemonFC; mjg59_ says he's a biologist, but he's more of a politician than a biologist.

03:11 DaemonFC; They can make laws that say a court can rule a certain way, and that may make a legal fiction.

03:11 DaemonFC; But courts can't change biology in a ruling.

03:12 DaemonFC; Legally, there's nothing stopping me from filing a few motions with a judge and becoming a female, legally.

03:12 DaemonFC; But it doesn't make it so.

03:12 DaemonFC; And even if I say the entire time that I don't think I'm a woman, as long as the paperwork is in order, the ruling will come down.

03:13 DaemonFC; You can change what marriage is because that has always just been a matter of law.

03:13 DaemonFC; But biology isn't changed because some judge said so.

03:14 DaemonFC; California seems to have some difficulty understanding that.

03:14 DaemonFC; One of their courts recently ruled that bees are fish.

03:40 AdmFubar; google becoming a religious cult? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/16/technology/google-fellowship-of-friends-sect.html#gateway-content

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/16/technology/google-fellowship-of-friends-sect.html#gateway-content

03:40 TR Bot; How a Religious Sect Landed Google in a Lawsuit - The New York Times

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4 AM, June 17

04:14 DaemonFC; It looks like starting on Saturday, we'll be let up from this heat wave.

04:14 DaemonFC; It goes back into the 60s and 70s for the next 8 days.

04:15 DaemonFC; That air conditioner we have in this apartment is a big pig. It'll easily sit there and run up your electric bill about $5 each day you have it on. On top of everything else. It's terrible.

04:15 DaemonFC; Of course, suffering under the heat is worse.

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5 AM, June 17

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6 AM, June 17

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06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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07:01 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, June 16, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

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07:01 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

07:01 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

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07:01 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

07:02 TR News; 3 Ways to Find Out Your IP address in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166136

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07:02 TR Bot; 3 Ways to Find Out Your IP address in Linux | Tux Machines

07:05 TR News; Resurrecting an old ThinkPad gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220616_old_thinkpad

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07:09 schestowitz; "I continue to have a lot of fun working on my programming

07:09 schestowitz; language (to the detriment of all of my other code projects).

07:09 schestowitz; I have a small but enthusiastic userbase." gopher://circumlunar.space:70/0/~sloum/phlog/061622.txt

07:10 schestowitz; The Red Room

07:10 schestowitz; by H. G. Wells gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Red_Room.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Red_Room.gmi

07:12 schestowitz; "Now that Ive satisfied my dark desire to make a wireless USB drive, lets add an ethernet cable" https://artemis.sh/2022/06/14/oxide-crucible.html |

↺ https://artemis.sh/2022/06/14/oxide-crucible.html

07:12 TR Bot; More Oxide at Home: My Pi is a Wireless Crucible

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07:12 TR News; "The standard ping utility is one of the most commonly used network troubleshooting tools." https://www.rumble.run/blog/lean-network-discovery-icmp/ |

↺ https://www.rumble.run/blog/lean-network-discovery-icmp/

07:12 TR Bot; One ping to find them: lean network discovery

07:13 TR News; "You have been using Linux for a while as a main OS. A couple of years at least." https://boilingsteam.com/boiling-steam-call-for-contributors/ | Source: Boiling Steam

↺ https://boilingsteam.com/boiling-steam-call-for-contributors/

07:13 TR Bot; Boiling Steam: Call for Contributors - Boiling Steam

07:14 schestowitz; <li>

07:14 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/16/freddie-points-to-the-current-temperature-on-the-mercury-thermometer/">Freddie points to the current temperature on the Mercury Thermometer</a></h5>

↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/16/freddie-points-to-the-current-temperature-on-the-mercury-thermometer/">Freddie

07:14 TR Bot; Freddie points to the current temperature on the Mercury Thermometer | Arduino Blog

07:14 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:14 schestowitz; <p>Nearly everyone is familiar with the mercury thermometer and how it uses the expansion of the element to display ambient temperatures. But in Instructables member TurboSnails latest project, they attempted to turn this concept on its head by making a thermometer that uses the iconic Freddie Mercury to show the temperature without the need for the toxic liquid metal.</p>

07:14 schestowitz; </blockquote>

07:14 schestowitz; </li>

07:14 TR News; "A couple weeks ago, I glanced through my ever-growing collection of Raspberry Pi RP2040-based boards" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/esphome-on-raspberry-pi-pico | Source: Jeff Geerling

↺ https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/esphome-on-raspberry-pi-pico

07:14 TR Bot; ESPHome on the Raspberry Pi Pico! | Jeff Geerling

07:14 TR News; "Nearly everyone is familiar with the mercury thermometer and how it uses the expansion of the element" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/16/freddie-points-to-the-current-temperature-on-the-mercury-thermometer/ | Source: Arduino

↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/16/freddie-points-to-the-current-temperature-on-the-mercury-thermometer/

07:15 TR News; "The answer is any industrial computerwhether Raspberry Pi-based or X8" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/industrial-raspberry-pi-computers-one-explosion-proof | Source: Jeff Geerling

↺ https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/industrial-raspberry-pi-computers-one-explosion-proof

07:15 TR Bot; Industrial Raspberry Pi computers (one is explosion-proof) | Jeff Geerling

07:15 TR News; "As a result, I have plenty of pictures that predate that change on my Macs and other Apple devices." https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/06/15/places/ | Source: Rachel

↺ https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/06/15/places/

07:15 TR Bot; Place name mappings probably need a time dimension too

07:16 TR News; "In part 4, we presented the Gregory method, which removes random effects from STV." https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/06/16/stv-primer-5.html | Source: Lee Yingtong Li

↺ https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/06/16/stv-primer-5.html

07:16 TR Bot; A conceptual primer on the single transferable vote 5: Weighted inclusive Gregory method

07:16 TR News; "Strings are normal characters that are in human-readable format whereas Byte strings are strings that are in bytes." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/effect-of-b-character-in-front-of-a-string-literal-in-python/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks

↺ https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/effect-of-b-character-in-front-of-a-string-literal-in-python/

07:16 TR Bot; Effect of 'b' character in front of a string literal in Python - GeeksforGeeks

07:19 TR News; "snapping pictures and storing them in the CLOWN" [NSA] https://bjhess.com/blog/2022/shared-photo-library/ | Source: Barry Hess

↺ https://bjhess.com/blog/2022/shared-photo-library/

07:19 TR Bot; Photo Library :: Barry Hess :: bjhess.com

07:19 TR News; "The first iPod was announced in October 2001, and most people agree that it revolutionized [sic] the way we listen to music nowadays." Not really. PMPs existed long beforehand. https://afhub.dev/2022/06/15/the-end-of-the-ipod-era/ | Source: Andre Franca

↺ https://afhub.dev/2022/06/15/the-end-of-the-ipod-era/

07:19 TR Bot; iPods are over

07:19 TR News; Windows TCO: "Were talking about software systems that, you know, operate our missiles and our ships and everything, they just dont" https://www.cyberscoop.com/adam-smith-national-security-software-house-armed-services/ | Source: Scoop News Group

↺ https://www.cyberscoop.com/adam-smith-national-security-software-house-armed-services/

07:19 TR Bot; Armed Services chair calls national security software, systems 'too vulnerable' - CyberScoop

07:20 TR News; "Facebook has devoted substantial engineering effort to keeping its switching costs as high as possible" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/facebook-says-apple-too-powerful-theyre-right | Source: EFF

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/facebook-says-apple-too-powerful-theyre-right

07:20 TR Bot; Facebook Says Apple is Too Powerful. They're Right. | Electronic Frontier Foundation

07:22 TR News; "The conditions of a recent radio license competition includes terms by county regarding what styles of music license" https://news.err.ee/1608630160/ministry-sees-no-problem-with-extra-terms-in-radio-licenses-competition | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling

↺ https://news.err.ee/1608630160/ministry-sees-no-problem-with-extra-terms-in-radio-licenses-competition

07:22 TR Bot; Ministry sees no problem with extra terms in radio licenses competition | News | ERR

07:24 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumCleaners/comments/r0n285/are_shark_vacuums_good/

↺ https://www.reddit.com/r/VacuumCleaners/comments/r0n285/are_shark_vacuums_good/

07:24 TR Bot; Are shark vacuums good? : VacuumCleaners

07:24 TR News; "Welcome to Part 2 of our investigation into Firefox snap performance." https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2 | Source: Ubuntu

↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-2

07:24 TR Bot; are we improving Firefox Snap performance? Part 2 | Ubuntu

07:24 TR News; "The Operator Day at Kubecon EU 2022, hosted by Canonical, took place on Monday 16 May 2022." https://ubuntu.com//blog/operator-day-at-kubecon-eu-2022-recordings | Source: Ubuntu

↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/operator-day-at-kubecon-eu-2022-recordings

07:24 TR Bot; Day at Kubecon EU 2022 recordings available! | Ubuntu

07:24 DaemonFC; "Bags filter better and you don't need to wash filters or have a cloud of dust when you dispose of them. You don't use many bags in a year so it's a nominal cost in the grand scheme of things."

07:24 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 Is Unstable & Systemd OOMD Is Why! https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/ubuntu-22.04-is-unstable-systemd-oomd-is:3 Source: BrodieRobertson

↺ https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/ubuntu-22.04-is-unstable-systemd-oomd-is:3

07:24 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 Is Unstable & Systemd OOMD Is Why!

07:24 DaemonFC; The bags cost several dollars each and you go through at least a few every month if you have cats. Maybe more. Some vacuum bags are getting smaller so they can sell more.

07:25 schestowitz_TR2; old business model

07:26 DaemonFC; If you want to use OEM bags, it's terrible.

07:26 DaemonFC; Kenmore charges $17+tax for 6 bags.

07:26 DaemonFC; Like you need something else that's costing you $80-90 a year.

07:28 DaemonFC; With the bagless models, you can just rinse the filters into a bucket and toss the dirty water outside every month and then let them dry and use them indefinitely.

07:28 DaemonFC; And each time the canister is full, you just dump it out into the trash.

07:28 TR News; If the goal was to harass, he won https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/13/arron-banks-loses-libel-action-against-reporter-carole-cadwalladr-guardian-defamation-brexit-russia

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/13/arron-banks-loses-libel-action-against-reporter-carole-cadwalladr-guardian-defamation-brexit-russia

07:28 TR Bot; Arron Banks loses libel action against reporter Carole Cadwalladr | Arron Banks | The Guardian

07:28 DaemonFC; And you can rinse it out into the bucket and dump the dirty water.

07:28 DaemonFC; Nothing to replace.

07:29 DaemonFC; The motors on my vacuums don't use belts.

07:29 TR News; "In addition, configuring strong SSH passwords should stop the malware in its tracks since it uses a very basic list of default passwords to spread." https://www.akamai.com/blog/security/new-p2p-botnet-panchan

↺ https://www.akamai.com/blog/security/new-p2p-botnet-panchan

07:29 DaemonFC; With Kenmore, Rainbow, and Kirby, you have belts to buy because they snap about every year and they're not terribly expensive, like $6-8, but it's a pain in the ass.

07:30 DaemonFC; You have to go figure out which model belt you need. It's easiest to buy spares when you get the vacuum so they can't stop selling them.

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07:31 schestowitz; x https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/new-peer-to-peer-botnet-installs-linux-servers-with-cryptominers

↺ https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/new-peer-to-peer-botnet-installs-linux-servers-with-cryptominers

07:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, GM changed the name of the color of my car 8 times in 20 years.

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07:31 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77

07:31 DaemonFC; But they kept the color code the same, so any of them will match regardless of what the color on the paint pens say.

07:31 DaemonFC; It took me forever to figure that out.

07:32 DaemonFC; They used it across their different divisions, and on Pontiac, it was called this, and on Chevy it was called that, and on Buick it was this, and GMC, it was that, and then they changed it a couple times each division.

07:32 DaemonFC; But it's exactly the same light metallic silver color.

07:34 TR News; old: U.S. V. Microsoft: Court's Findings Of Fact https://www.justice.gov/atr/us-v-microsoft-courts-findings-fact Source: justice

↺ https://www.justice.gov/atr/us-v-microsoft-courts-findings-fact

07:34 TR Bot; U.S. V. Microsoft: Court's Findings Of Fact

07:34 TR News; "Technology is easy to blame for the mental health crisis that kids are facing. But according to experts, its not that simple." https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/kids-mental-health-screen-time-technology/ | Source: Mozilla

↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/kids-mental-health-screen-time-technology/

07:35 TR Bot; Kids are growing up in a very online world. What's a concerned parent to do?

07:35 TR News; "To ensure that your application usage bandwidth is not expended by a single client, you need to control the upload and download speeds per client." https://www.tecmint.com/nginx-bandwidth-limit/ | Source: TecMint

↺ https://www.tecmint.com/nginx-bandwidth-limit/

07:35 TR Bot; How to Limit Network Bandwidth in NGINX Web Server

07:36 TR News; "Similar to the recent Exo Sense RP also by Sfera Labs, the Iono RP D16 is built around the RP2040 chip" https://linuxgizmos.com/multipurpose-i-o-module-based-on-raspberry-pi-rp2040-silicon/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/multipurpose-i-o-module-based-on-raspberry-pi-rp2040-silicon/

07:36 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/multipurpose-i-o-module-based-on-raspberry-pi-rp2040-silicon/ )

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07:36 TR News; "Building our products in an open and transparent way allows us to rethink the way how we test" https://news.opensuse.org/2022/06/16/ALP-Quality-Engineering-update/ |

↺ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/06/16/ALP-Quality-Engineering-update/

07:36 TR Bot; An update from ALP Quality Engineering - openSUSE News

07:42 TR News; "Starship Troopers: Terran Command [Humble Store / Steam] just released from The Artistocrats and Slitherine Ltd. but getting it on running on Linux desktop or Steam Deck requires a few steps." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/starship-troopers-terran-command-on-steam-deck-and-linux-m-a-quick-guide/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/starship-troopers-terran-command-on-steam-deck-and-linux-m-a-quick-guide/

07:42 TR Bot; Troopers: Terran Command on Steam Deck and Linux a quick guide | GamingOnLinux

07:42 TR News; Linux

07:42 TR News; "Ready to get punched with nostalgia and eat some pizza? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge is officially out now along with Native Linux support and it's looking good on desktop and a Steam Deck too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-is-out-now/

07:43 TR Bot; Beat 'em up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge is out now | GamingOnLinux

07:43 TR News; "First-person shooting and match-3 together? MATCHO sure does sound strange but it also looks like it could be tons of fun and it's coming to GNU/Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/matcho-is-a-unique-first-person-shooter-with-match-3-mechanics/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/matcho-is-a-unique-first-person-shooter-with-match-3-mechanics/

07:43 TR Bot; is a unique first-person shooter with match-3 mechanics | GamingOnLinux

07:43 TR News; "Making use of public domain renaissance artwork" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/the-frogs-will-take-you-through-a-humorous-renaissance-artwork-adventure/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/the-frogs-will-take-you-through-a-humorous-renaissance-artwork-adventure/

07:44 TR Bot; Frogs will take you through a humorous renaissance artwork adventure | GamingOnLinux

07:45 TR News; "No doubt plenty of puzzle fans will be sad, as Zachtronics will be hanging up their development hat and moving on after the release of Last Call BBS." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/the-last-ever-game-from-zachtronics-releases-july-5th/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/the-last-ever-game-from-zachtronics-releases-july-5th/

07:45 TR Bot; last ever game from Zachtronics releases July 5th | GamingOnLinux

07:47 TR News; "LightSpeed Studios, owned by Tencent, has joined up with the Open 3D Foundation who oversee the Open 3D Engine (O3DE)." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166083#comment-34038 | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166083#comment-34038

07:47 TR Bot; Proprietary Software and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines

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07:50 TR News; Games: Starship Troopers: Terran Command, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredders Revenge, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166137

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166137

07:50 TR Bot; Games: Starship Troopers: Terran Command, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge, and More | Tux Machines

07:51 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166138

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166138

07:51 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

07:55 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/these-vehicles-are-the-most-targeted-for-catalytic-converter-thefts/

↺ https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/these-vehicles-are-the-most-targeted-for-catalytic-converter-thefts/

07:55 TR Bot; These vehicles are the most targeted for catalytic converter thefts | WGN-TV

07:56 matey; Mesa 22.1.2 and GNOME Takes Microsoft Money

07:57 matey; gitlab or not, gnome IS microsoft

07:57 matey; always was, always will be

07:57 matey; like microsoft only cares about owning / controlling things that are on github

07:58 matey; what about the microsoft linux kernel?

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07:59 schestowitz_TR2; gnome is compromised


8 AM, June 17

08:00 schestowitz_TR2; by several "big companies"

08:00 schestowitz_TR2; KDE was never like this

08:00 schestowitz_TR2; SUSE had SOME impact

08:00 schestowitz_TR2; but not a lot

08:00 DaemonFC; https://www.carfax.com/blog/catalytic-converter-theft

↺ https://www.carfax.com/blog/catalytic-converter-theft

08:00 TR Bot; Converter Theft: Most Targeted Vehicles - CARFAX

08:00 TR News; Cadwalladr https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/13/carole-cadwalladr-wins-libel-case-against-arron-banks-using/ | Source: The Telegraph UK

↺ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/13/carole-cadwalladr-wins-libel-case-against-arron-banks-using/

08:00 DaemonFC; "They can make anywhere from $25 to $300 for a standard catalytic converter, McDonold said. Ones from hybrid vehicles can sell for up to $1,400."

08:00 TR Bot; Carole Cadwalladr wins libel case against Arron Banks using 'echo chamber' defence

08:00 DaemonFC; LOL

08:00 TR News; "Mr Banks, the founder of the pro-Brexit campaign group Leave.EU, sued Ms Cadwalladr for defamation" https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61782578 | Source: BBC

↺ https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61782578

08:00 TR Bot; Banks loses Russia libel case against Carole Cadwalladr - BBC News

08:01 TR News; "The High Court understood Mr Banks to be complaining about Ms Cadwalladr" https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/arron-banks-carole-cadwalladr-verdict-b2099605.html | Source: The Independent UK

↺ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/arron-banks-carole-cadwalladr-verdict-b2099605.html

08:01 TR Bot; Arron Banks loses libel case against journalist Carole Cadwalladr | The Independent

08:01 TR News; "Accordingly, the claim is dismissed." https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Banks-v-Cadwalladr-130622-Judgment.pdf |

↺ https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Banks-v-Cadwalladr-130622-Judgment.pdf

08:01 DaemonFC; So why waste your time with the Buick? You're only going to get $100. You can get 14 times that amount by hitting the Prius over nyaaah.

08:01 TR News; "As Amazon warehouse workers racked up many thousands of serious injuries each year, government officials havent done much about it" https://revealnews.org/article/amazons-warehouse-quotas-have-been-injuring-workers-for-years-now-officials-are-taking-action/ | Source: The Center for Investigative Reporting

↺ https://revealnews.org/article/amazons-warehouse-quotas-have-been-injuring-workers-for-years-now-officials-are-taking-action/

08:01 TR Bot; Amazons Injury Rates Under Increasing Government Scrutiny

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08:02 matey; KDE was never like this <- im not sure thats true actually

08:02 matey; but if they were its more subtle

08:03 matey; im not thinking of suse

08:03 schestowitz_TR2; ok, show me kde succumbing to microsoft

08:03 matey; gnome is compromised <- gnome was compromised when techrights was still bn

08:03 schestowitz_TR2; or a kde leader going to work for microsoft

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08:03 matey; ok, show me kde succumbing to microsoft <- they had a windows version!

08:03 matey; i agree thats not exactly on the same level of gnome...

08:03 DaemonFC; "Why hybrids? Its because more precious metals are needed for a hybrids catalytic converter. Hybrid engines do not run as often, so their exhaust does not get as hot."

08:03 matey; and at the time it seemed like a good idea to me even

08:04 matey; but that was a LONG time ago

08:04 DaemonFC; Another reason not to drive a hybrid.

08:04 DaemonFC; Also, those cars with start/stop.

08:04 matey; given what kde has become, i think its worth going back and double checking

08:04 matey; but either way thats not the same as gnome is it

08:04 matey; when tr was still bn, gnome was pushing mono

08:04 matey; microsoft patent shit

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08:05 matey; de icaza was always a softie in his heart

08:05 matey; gnome was practically a plot from the halloween documents

08:05 matey; maybe it was just fanboyism

08:05 matey; its the real thing now

08:05 matey; but its been a problem for 15 years

08:05 matey; no surprise then its even worse at this point

08:06 matey; gnome <-> collabora <-> libreoffice

08:06 matey; these three will become the same thing

08:06 matey; theyre as joined at the hips as debian and ubuntu at this point (developer overlap)

08:07 matey; similar politics (stallman cancellation)

08:07 matey; of course, we can flood people with dots and downplay the connections

08:07 matey; then say "but look at all the dots we give"

08:07 matey; but its the same people. doing the same shit. betweeen three projects.

08:07 matey; collabora is going to destroy libreoffice. gnome will be there.

08:08 matey; doesnt matter 5 or 10 years-- it will be gnome and collabora that do it

08:08 matey; gnome is the red hat to libreoffices debian, in more ways than one

08:09 matey; of course the BIG BIG picture here

08:09 matey; the one techrights wont tell people

08:09 matey; even though its gone on for eyars

08:09 matey; is gnome will ultimately control all the gtk shit (as if they dont already)

08:09 matey; they have libreoffice right where they want them

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08:10 matey; big surprise mozilla is equally compromised (though thats hardly gnome alone)

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08:10 matey; by 2030 gtk will be as bad as mono

08:11 TR News; Canonical Releases New Ubuntu Kernel Updates to Patch Intel MMIO Stale Data Flaws Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166139

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166139

08:11 TR Bot; Canonical Releases New Ubuntu Kernel Updates to Patch Intel MMIO Stale Data Flaws | Tux Machines

08:11 matey; in some ways it already is-- just not a patent issue necessarily. not this year at least. selling people out to patents is so what, 2020?

08:11 matey; gnome isnt software, its a fucking digital disease

08:12 matey; "our project got gnome"

08:12 matey; "god, im so sorry"

08:12 matey; this week its not even a story on techrights-- they took money from microsoft and its just in links

08:13 matey; but the more important story is theyve always done microsofts bidding

08:13 matey; some of the biggest evils came from gnome

08:13 matey; and techrights downplayed that saying it was just the gnome foundation

08:13 matey; bullshit

08:13 matey; but regardless, some of the biggest evils in free software come from gnome

08:13 matey; thats the real story

08:13 matey; and they love microsoft so much they want to marry it

08:14 matey; and de icaza is a title for sellouts now

08:14 matey; like hes only "gnome foundation"

08:14 matey; get it together, techrights

08:14 matey; you want friends too badly

08:14 matey; with friends like gnome, who needs landmines?

08:15 matey; if you put all the facts together-- the dots

08:15 matey; and you connect them with any kind of serious motive towards the big picture-- the truth

08:15 matey; youll see just how fucked up gnome really is

08:16 matey; and if you dont... it pads out the weeks stories nicely

08:16 matey; its like driving down the freeway at top speed

08:16 matey; hey was that treach--

08:16 matey; nevermind!

08:17 matey; and whats even funnier is the teflon coating they get (no extra charge)

08:17 matey; i mean watch this:

08:17 matey; watch this: wiki time

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08:18 matey; http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME

http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME

08:18 TR Bot; GNOME - Techrights

08:18 matey; nope!

08:18 matey; http://techrights.org/wiki/Gnome

http://techrights.org/wiki/Gnome

08:18 TR Bot; Gnome - Techrights

08:18 matey; nope!

08:18 matey; here we go

08:18 matey; http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation

http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation

08:18 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation - Techrights

08:18 matey; bullshit!

08:19 matey; no look how much has been done

08:19 matey; "gnome foundation"

08:19 matey; as if gnome is innocent

08:19 TR News; Proprietary: Apple and Mcrosoft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166140

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08:19 TR Bot; Proprietary: Apple and Mcrosoft | Tux Machines

08:19 matey; thats like saying blair isnt a war criminal because the iraq invasion was american (which it was, largely)

08:19 TR News; Raspberry Pi Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166141

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08:19 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Projects | Tux Machines

08:19 matey; i mean putin does war crimes and everybody knows it

08:20 matey; blair does the same thing and they want him to do commercials for new labour

08:20 matey; whats the fucking difference? ill tell you what the difference is

08:20 matey; blair has a get out of war crimes free card

08:20 matey; its fucking arbitrary

08:20 matey; whats the difference between gnome and gnome foundation?

08:20 matey; same people! same project! SAME FUCKING MONEY!

08:21 matey; does anyone think gnome is going to LEAVE the gnome foundation?

08:21 matey; thats as silly as saying linus will pack up his trademark and leave lf

08:21 matey; how is gnome not complicit in all this?

08:21 matey; do they give a shit? do they apologise? of course not

08:22 matey; techrights makes up a very arbitrary line

08:22 matey; on one side, the people who are doing this stuff are "gnome foundation"

08:22 matey; on the other side, its "gnome" and theyre innocent

08:22 matey; THE LINE DOESNT EXIST

08:22 matey; its completely imaginary

08:22 matey; its nonsense

08:22 matey; it does exist sort of on paper

08:23 TR News; "surveillance capitalism" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/16/1-2-billion-in-streaming-ads-a-year-arent-being-watched-because-the-tv-is-off/ | Source: Techdirt

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08:23 TR Bot; Billion In Streaming Ads A Year Arent Being Watched Because The TV Is Off | Techdirt

08:23 matey; sort of like the constitution that says no mass surveillance

08:23 matey; so they just have gchq do it instead, then trade

08:23 matey; its a farce

08:23 TR News; "cord cutting" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/15/major-league-soccer-to-stream-all-games-on-apple-tv-for-10-years/ | Source: Techdirt

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08:23 matey; i mean microsoft does that all the time

08:23 TR Bot; League Soccer To Stream All Games On Apple TV For 10 Years | Techdirt

08:23 matey; oh, thats not us! its "SCO"!

08:23 matey; right, so when microsoft does that, its bullshit

08:23 matey; when gnome does it...

08:23 matey; its the same fucking thing

08:24 matey; only moreso

08:24 matey; "oh its not 'microsoft', its bill and melinda!"

08:24 matey; its not epstein! its the epstein FOUNDATION

08:25 matey; maybe techrights has nothing to do with this facetious silliness

08:25 matey; maybe its the techrights foundation doing it

08:25 TR News; "nonsense legislation from Republicans" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/16/ridiculous-republican-senators-introduce-law-to-say-political-emails-cant-be-filtered-as-spam/ | Source: Techdirt

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08:25 TR Bot; Republican Senators Introduce Law To Say Political Emails Cant Be Filtered As Spam | Techdirt

08:26 matey; i have no problem with people attributing things to the correct sources

08:26 matey; but playing along with a decoy when both parties are more than a little involved

08:26 matey; is just public relations shit

08:26 TR News; The Poor Peoples Campaign (PPC) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/16/if-poverty-is-a-moral-issue-then-the-u-s-is-bankrupt/ | Source: Counter Punch

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08:26 TR Bot; Poverty is a Moral Issue, Then the U.S. is Bankrupt - CounterPunch.org

08:26 matey; get your money, youve earned it

08:27 matey; if gnome wants its hands clean of the gnome foundation

08:27 matey; they can leave i guess

08:27 matey; wont ever happen, because theyre not really separate things

08:27 TR News; "The company behind Xtream-Codes, the IPTV management system shut down as part of a massive law enforcement operation in 2019" https://torrentfreak.com/xtream-codes-iptv-company-declared-lawful-assets-seized-in-raid-returned-220616/ | Source: Torrent Freak

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08:27 TR Bot; IPTV Company Declared Lawful, Assets Seized in Raid Returned * TorrentFreak

08:27 TR News; "Pirate streaming apps are leading the entertainment category in Brazil's Google Play Store" https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-streaming-apps-beat-netflix-and-disney-in-brazils-play-store-220616/ | Source: Torrent Freak

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08:27 TR Bot; Streaming Apps Beat Netflix and Disney in Brazils Play Store * TorrentFreak

08:27 matey; but corporations love to spread the finger pointing around

08:27 matey; keeps us busy

08:28 matey; some things are so painfully obvious (and demonstrable) it makes you wonder why anyone would bother to pretend that the left hand and the right hand dont belong to the same fucking thing

08:28 matey; oh its not the democrats, its the republicans

08:28 matey; you meant corporations, thats all it fucking is

08:28 matey; thats all gnome foundation is, thats all gnome is

08:28 matey; fucking corporations

08:28 matey; fucking over free software for 15+ years

08:28 TR News; "The story youre about to read is bananas, and its also about bananas." https://www.propublica.org/article/ocean-freight-shipping-costs-inflation Pro Publica tgakes bribes from oligarchs and criminals like Bill Gates, however, so it's part of the problem

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08:28 TR Bot; Ocean Freight Shipping Costs Are Driving Goods Prices Higher ProPublica

08:29 matey; lets move the finger pointed at them SLIGHTLY over here, so we can say "oh, thats okay"

08:29 matey; heres to another 15 years of gnome fucking us over!

08:29 matey; and doing fuck all about it

08:29 matey; or even pretending to do fuck all about it, like its really doing shit

08:30 matey; gnome is the brand after all

08:30 matey; the REAL NAME is BOHICA

08:30 schestowitz_TR2; it's called after miguel

08:31 schestowitz_TR2; he's like 5 5

08:31 matey; nobody cares about miguel

08:31 matey; nobody cares about nat friendman

08:31 matey; and to top it off, nobody cares that gnome fucks them over just like microsoft does

08:31 matey; but its the last one that actually matters

08:32 matey; i personally dont like miguel? so if hes involved with something i know its going to be shit?

08:32 matey; but most people will care about gnome being shit BEFORE they care that miguel is

08:32 matey; and they dont even care about that, so...

08:32 matey; why would they care about miguel?

08:32 TR News; Links 16/06/2022: Arron Banks Loses His SLAPP Campaign | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/slapp-campaign/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/slapp-campaign/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/slapp-campaign/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/slapp-campaign/

08:32 TR Bot; Links 16/06/2022: Arron Banks Loses His SLAPP Campaign | Techrights

08:34 matey; the its not like this industry gives a shit about ethics

08:34 matey; ibm wants to control what OTHER people say

08:34 matey; they wont stop using the same words they censor though

08:34 matey; thats the industry in a nutshell

08:34 matey; they only want to control other people

08:35 matey; they want to control competitors. not a huge relevation but its relevant

08:35 matey; theyll work to destroy competitors even if they have to buy them first

08:35 matey; the same thing has happened over and over for decades

08:35 matey; but

08:35 matey; it keeps getting downplayed and people keep getting misdirected

08:36 schestowitz_TR2; when you cannot do well

08:36 schestowitz_TR2; you ruin the others

08:36 schestowitz_TR2; to lower the bar

08:36 matey; its not just that

08:36 schestowitz_TR2; and "win"

08:36 schestowitz_TR2; that's Microsoft basically

08:36 matey; ruining the others is a fine way to "do well"

08:36 matey; you simply step on other people to climb up

08:36 matey; like tyra probably did to naomi

08:37 matey; tyra could have done VERY well either way

08:37 matey; but she wanted to be #1

08:37 matey; you gotta step on people to be #1

08:37 matey; or theyll step on you

08:37 matey; you dont actually have to be #1 though

08:38 matey; because at the end of the day

08:38 matey; #1 is whoever steps on people, one way or another

08:38 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 16, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/irc-log-160622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/irc-log-160622/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/irc-log-160622/

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08:38 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 16, 2022 | Techrights

08:38 matey; youre better off with #3

08:38 matey; or we can pretend rank = merit

08:38 TR News; Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) May Replace openSUSE Leap Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166142

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08:38 TR Bot; Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) May Replace openSUSE Leap | Tux Machines

08:38 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166143

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08:39 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

08:39 matey; which is a load of shit, but its a very persistent and very common fallacy

08:39 matey; #1 is pretty much a guaranteed sellout

08:40 matey; it didnt get there without compromising something

08:40 matey; in a world that wasnt a race to fuck / step on people, #1 might not be so bad

08:40 matey; let me know when the world is far

08:40 matey; fair

08:40 matey; then #1 will be a GOOD thing, not something more sinister

08:41 matey; i wouldnt dismiss something thats accidentally #1 for 5 minutes either

08:41 matey; if it stays in that slot though

08:41 matey; you know something went wrong somewhere

08:41 matey; or its really the only thing in its category

08:42 matey; so its #1, the way an only child is the favourite

08:42 matey; but thats silly

08:44 TR News; Pandemic https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/16/my-pandemic-in-three-acts/ | Source: Counter Punch

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08:44 TR Bot; Pandemic in Three Acts - CounterPunch.org

08:46 matey; under the wiki entry for "gnome foundation"

08:46 matey; look at all the people who call out gnome

08:46 matey; While OpenDocument Format (ODF) adoption was rising, GNOME was promoting, participating in and implementing the competing Office Open XML (OOXML) format developed by Microsoft. RMS has said Microsoft is trying to spin the apparent support of GNOME into proof that OOXML

08:46 matey; is not bad for free software., which Microsoft actually did by listing GNOME Gnumeric as an application that implements it. Miguel de Icaza has repeatedly defended Microsoft's OOXML. He now receives a very large salary from Microsoft and his partner (since the older days; former Microsoft employee, then Novell and Xamarin)

08:46 matey; thats all gnome

08:47 schestowitz_TR2; kde does not have such issues

08:47 matey; not on the same level no

08:47 matey; kde has never been as fundamentally fucked up as gnome

08:47 matey; but gnu kept its distance for a while because of qt

08:47 matey; understandably

08:48 TR News; "Lots of states and cities have considered bail reform in recent years" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/16/chicago-judge-reminds-citys-mayor-that-the-presumption-of-innocence-still-exists/ | Source: Techdirt

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08:48 TR Bot; Judge Reminds Citys Mayor That The Presumption Of Innocence Still Exists | Techdirt

08:48 matey; and today, qt is a problem-- kde has done telemetray

08:48 TR News; "Weve already discussed how the expected overturning of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court may impact the debate on encryption" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/16/yes-section-230-also-matters-in-the-fight-over-abortion-rights/ | Source: Techdirt

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08:48 TR Bot; Section 230 Also Matters In The Fight Over Abortion Rights | Techdirt

08:48 matey; they did that pseudopropietary shit with the cashew

08:48 matey; which is an exaggeration, but its either exaggerate or downplay so for the cashew, im willing to exaggerate and say im doing so

08:49 matey; but its hopelessly bloated beyond any chance of salvage

08:49 matey; none of which is as bad as gnome

08:50 matey; but if people want hopeless bloat its still an issue

08:50 matey; gnome is microsoft, kde became apple then google and will now become microsoft

08:51 matey; insomuch as webkit has anything to do with kde, which admittedly is a stretch

08:51 matey; i bet theres at least a little truth to that

08:51 matey; if idle hands are the devils playground

08:52 matey; a bloated project is just another yoke for giafam to use against us

08:52 matey; not in theory-- in theory AND practice

08:52 matey; whats kdes plan with qt?

08:52 matey; if techrights focused on the takeover of free software AND ACTUALLY FIGHTING IT

08:52 matey; we might know what kde plans to do about qt

08:52 matey; ive never heard anything about that

08:52 matey; just teasers

08:53 matey; but i can tell you what kde could do if it wasnt hopeless bloat

08:53 matey; anything they want.

08:53 matey; you only have to bow to that which has control over you

08:53 matey; kde has to bow to qt

08:54 matey; or find another way... what even exists?

08:54 matey; step 1 is bloat

08:54 matey; step 2 is takeover

08:54 matey; step 3 is exodus

08:54 matey; with fsf and debian we are already in step 3

08:55 matey; gcc is at step 2, no one talks about it

08:55 matey; most of gnu is at step 3

08:55 matey; techrights pretends these things reverse

08:55 matey; death doesnt go backwards

08:55 matey; UNIX isnt coming back

08:56 matey; its bsd and gnu and "linux" and android now

08:56 matey; but UNIX is done

08:56 matey; if you can find a bank running it in 50 years, its still done

08:57 matey; unix signed its own death warrant with a very expensive per-cpu license

08:57 matey; that kept it from being a success on the pc

08:57 matey; ensuring a future for someone else to make something unixy instead

08:58 matey; gnome will suffer the same fate

08:58 matey; but not without a lot of fight

08:58 matey; and while gnome fights US

08:58 matey; some of us will suck up to them

08:58 matey; which is so utterly stupid, theres no self-respect or dignity in it

08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

08:59 matey; its just trusting liars

08:59 TR News; Petrocracy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/16/people-vs-petrocracy | Source: Common Dreams

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08:59 TR Bot; Opinion | The People vs. Petrocracy | Stan Cox

08:59 matey; gnome has shown itself to make powerful "friends" who use it as weapon against users

08:59 matey; and for all that, we call it "gnome foundation"

08:59 matey; bollux


9 AM, June 17

09:00 matey; they betrayed gnu, they betrayed us

09:00 matey; they betrayed free software over and over and over again

09:00 matey; trusting them only makes it easier for them to do more of that

09:00 matey; we can be friends with gnome!

09:00 matey; microbel can be friends with amd

09:01 matey; if amd didnt suck so much it wouldnt have to bribe people to say they dont suck

09:01 matey; if gnome didnt suck so much

09:01 matey; we wouldnt have to like to make them look like they dont suck

09:01 matey; lie

09:01 matey; but it makes no more sense than what microbel is doing

09:02 matey; i mean, from a practical (not an ethical) standpoint it makes even less sense-- at least he gets something out of it

09:02 matey; what do you get for pretending gnome isnt a giant backstabbing pile of shit?

09:02 matey; not money, im pretty sure

09:02 matey; so, what?

09:02 matey; id rather have amd than gnome, and they have to bribe people

09:03 matey; but even knowing that, and how sad it is and what it implies

09:03 TR News; "On behalf of the team, I am thrilled to share with you the Tor Project's latest Annual Report!" https://blog.torproject.org/2020-2021-annual-report/ | Source: Tor

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09:03 TR Bot; The Tor Project 2020-2021 Annual Report | The Tor Project

09:03 matey; eh, its apples and oranges

09:03 matey; but its rotten apples and rotten oranges

09:03 matey; they both belong in a pile of compost

09:04 TR News; "According to the statistics, women in Hungary achieve a higher average level of education than men, yet they have a lower employment rate." https://telex.hu/english/2022/06/16/preschool-teacher-by-day-nail-technician-by-night-just-to-make-ends-meet | Source: Telex (Hungary)

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09:04 TR Bot; Telex: Preschool teacher by day, nail tech by night just to make ends meet

09:04 matey; this isnt about free software

09:04 matey; these projects dont liberate anyone or anything

09:04 matey; gnome has a free license, its a pile of shit that microsoft influences

09:05 matey; and forks of gnome dont really do well

09:05 matey; debian sabotaged the fuck out of mate

09:05 matey; because they love gnome

09:05 matey; debian and gnome are among the largest groups that signed the letter too

09:05 matey; these arent our friends

09:06 matey; they arent allies

09:06 matey; they dont care about us or freedom

09:06 matey; this isnt a free software movement

09:06 matey; its corporate bullshit

09:06 matey; its open source

09:06 matey; if youre talking about free software like its a real thing

09:06 matey; youre talking about a movement that rises from the ashes of open source

09:07 matey; because open source rose from the ashes of free software

09:07 TR News; "A press is a useful thing to have, whether you like destroying stuff or you simply want to properly install some bearings" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/16/3d-printed-gear-press-can-squash-stuff-kinda/ | Source: Hackaday

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09:07 TR Bot; Gear Press Can Squash Stuff, Kinda | Hackaday

09:07 matey; and its a big giant pile of bullshit

09:07 TR News; "The Commodore 64 is a much-loved 8-bit retro computer that first appeared in 1982 and finally faded away around a decade later." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/16/will-the-real-commodore-please-stand-up/ | Source: Hackaday

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09:07 TR Bot; The Real Commodore Please Stand Up? | Hackaday

09:07 matey; "bullshit... bullshit everywhere"

09:07 schestowitz_TR2; debian aagainst mate?

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09:08 matey; debian sabotaged mate

09:08 *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)

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09:08 matey; and i forgave them

09:08 matey; i had real misgivings about it

09:08 matey; it was one of those moments

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09:09 matey; but i put it aside

09:09 matey; i thought mate was doing EXACTLY what free software should do

09:09 matey; fork to keep something going that people love

09:09 matey; when a corporate shit decides to let people down

09:09 matey; but mate had more than the gnome juggernaut to worry about

09:10 matey; debian and gnome are the same project

09:10 matey; now more than ever

09:10 matey; and since 2014, but even before that

09:10 matey; working hand in hand to fuck people

09:10 matey; debian = gnome, gnome = microsoft

09:11 matey; debian = red hate = ibm

09:11 matey; ibm = microsoft

09:11 matey; its a tangled mess, but so is systemd

09:11 matey; but ibm and microsoft act more like a single company that two separate ones

09:11 matey; they do their worst damage together

09:11 matey; like twins

09:12 matey; microsoft is a clone of ibm

09:12 matey; and just like twins, they have their differences too

09:12 matey; but matching dna

09:12 matey; you really cant separate debian from gnome

09:12 matey; it wouldnt be debian then

09:13 matey; conjoined twins

09:14 matey; or the fly, whatever you like

09:14 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fly_(1986_film)

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09:14 TR Bot; The Fly (1986 film) - Wikipedia

09:15 matey; you can find a thousand people that say theyre fighting for your freedom

09:16 matey; 900+ of which are only fighting for corporations to take over our computing again

09:16 matey; i dont know what the fuck fsf thinks its doing

09:16 matey; its just doing marketing for what used to be its mission

09:16 matey; theres already a term for that

09:16 matey; abandoning free software for marketing is called "open source"

09:17 schestowitz_TR2; see their latest blog post

09:17 matey; should be good for a laugh

09:17 schestowitz_TR2; https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summ

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09:17 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summ )

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09:19 matey; ive spent two minutes trying to find that url from the fsf website

09:19 matey; its a pile of shit

09:20 matey; This page does not seem to exist

09:20 matey; /me tries https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press

↺ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press

09:20 TR Bot; Recent blog posts Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

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09:20 matey; https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summer-swag

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09:20 TR Bot; Beat the heat with GNU summer swag Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

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09:21 matey; /me considering buying something from the fsf just to burn it

09:21 matey; i wont give them money though

09:22 matey; "This is different than all previous years: not only did we invert the print, but the GNU itself is sporting sassy sunglasses."

09:22 matey; well hold the fucking phone

09:22 matey; not only does the fsf do fuck all

09:22 matey; and is gcc being taken over by ibm

09:22 matey; but the gnu itself is sporting "sassy sunglasses"

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09:23 matey; i guess the future of the occupation is so bright theyve gotta wear shades

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09:24 TR News; "At the end of May, as I was waiting to board a flight from Newark to Geneva, I overheard a high-decibel monologue" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/16/mask-less-world-how-corporate-capitalist-war-humanity-wreaking-havoc | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/16/mask-less-world-how-corporate-capitalist-war-humanity-wreaking-havoc

09:24 TR Bot; Opinion | A Mask-Less World: How the Corporate-Capitalist War on Humanity Is Wreaking Havoc | Beln Fernndez

09:24 matey; "our Super Sticker Mega Multi-Pack is a great item for any free software enthusiast, and it includes messaging from our most popular campaigns and projects"

09:24 matey; just what the fsf needs

09:25 matey; more messaging

09:25 matey; messaging about messaging

09:25 matey; fsf is a recursive acronym

09:25 matey; it stands for fsf sucks foundation

09:26 matey; the fsf

09:26 matey; whats the fsf stand for

09:26 matey; messaging!

09:26 matey; whats the messaging about?

09:26 matey; messaging!@

09:26 matey; join us today so we can have more messaging about joining today!

09:27 matey; i grew up in the bible belt

09:27 matey; this is what its like

09:27 matey; everyones gotta get jesus, so they can tell everyone they need jesus

09:27 matey; yo dawg, we herd you like superficial bulshit

09:27 matey; so we put bullshit in your bullshit, so you can bullshit while you bullshit!

09:28 TR News; "when prototype hardware shows up on our desk" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/16/turing-pi-2-the-low-power-cluster/ | Source: Hackaday

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09:28 TR Bot; Pi 2: The Low Power Cluster | Hackaday

09:28 matey; i wish jesus really would come back

09:28 matey; just so he can fly around getting his followers attention and yelling

09:28 matey; "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!"

09:29 matey; i step away for just two milliennia, and-- what the actual fuck?!

09:29 matey; but you know, the story is kind of a ripoff anyway

09:29 TR News; "most private information" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/16/warren-leads-charge-ban-sale-peoples-health-and-location-data | Source: Common Dreams

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09:29 TR Bot; Warren Leads Charge to Ban Sale of People's Health and Location Data

09:29 matey; other than that, whatever

09:29 matey; the romans did an osi on it anyway

09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

09:30 matey; complete with a big "cancellation" of the founder!

09:30 matey; /me two thumbs up

09:30 schestowitz_TR2; a coup

09:30 matey; followed by an occuapation

09:30 matey; STILL GOING ON 2000 years later

09:31 schestowitz_TR2; yes

09:31 schestowitz_TR2; for 2 years

09:31 matey; you might think i hate catholics or something

09:31 matey; i dont at all

09:31 matey; we get along fine

09:31 matey; ive never met a catholic that doesnt one way or another know the church is full of shit

09:31 matey; catholicism doesnt bother me

09:31 matey; but the church is still bullshit

09:32 TR News; Socialism gemini://idiomdrottning.org/socialism

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09:32 TR News; systemd gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-06-17-linux-command-line-reference.gmi

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09:33 matey; the crusades, the inquisition-- those bother me

09:33 matey; the church was involved in wwii in both good and bad ways

09:33 matey; most of that bothers me

09:34 matey; religion really doesnt bother me though

09:34 matey; only people who abuse it

09:35 TR News; "Many robot builders and RC enthusiasts find themselves turning to 3D printed tires." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/16/comparing-3d-printed-tires-resin-vs-tpu/ | Source: Hackaday

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09:35 TR Bot; 3D Printed Tires: Resin Vs. TPU | Hackaday

09:36 TR News; "Nintendos war on its own fans love of Nintendo game music continues." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/16/nintendo-shuts-down-musicians-youtube-videos-of-metroid-covers/ | Source: Techdirt

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09:36 TR Bot; Shuts Down Musicians YouTube Videos Of Metroid Covers | Techdirt

09:43 matey; www.imdb.com/name/nm2274606/

09:43 matey; Bassam Kurdali, Animation Department: Elephants Dream

09:44 matey; signed the letter

09:44 matey; Bassam Kurdali: 'I see open source as a movement for social good.'

09:44 matey; i see lies and assassinations as a movement for social good

09:45 matey; wheres the social good now

09:45 matey; they destroyed the movement and sold it to corporations

09:45 matey; kurdali is a professor so

09:46 matey; his school probably did the same-- sold out to sponsors

09:46 matey; our bill and melinda football stadium

09:46 matey; microkurdali, microdali, perhaps

09:47 matey; not just microbel, but just like him

09:47 matey; i mean larabel didnt sign but

09:47 matey; he is pretty silly

09:47 matey; orange.blender.org/bassam-kurdali/

09:47 matey; The director of the project, Bassam is responsible for animation direction, character design and final edit.

09:49 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_Foundation

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09:49 TR Bot; Blender Foundation - Wikipedia

09:49 matey; The foundation is chaired by Ton Roosendaal, the original author of the Blender software.

09:49 matey; the original author

09:49 matey; thats different

09:50 matey; Blender is a member of ASWF, Khronos, Linux Foundation and OIN.

09:50 matey; yay

09:51 matey; Its also well supported by major hardware vendors such as AMD, Apple, Intel, and NVIDIA.

09:51 matey; just like microbel

09:51 matey; i mean thats from their own frontpage https://www.blender.org/

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09:51 TR Bot; - Home of the Blender project - Free and Open 3D Creation Software

09:52 matey; with that said, i think the blender/kurdali connection looks dead-end-ish


10 AM, June 17

10:01 matey; here are some differences between cancellation and due process

10:01 matey; with due process, you take all the accusations and list them

10:02 matey; then you go about figuring out how accurate those accusations are (or arent)

10:02 matey; maybe

10:02 matey; thats the idea, at least

10:02 matey; after youve done that, you figure out what to do about it

10:02 matey; cancellation is more like this (which is to say, more like a mob)

10:03 matey; first, you have a bunch of accusations. or "SHES A WITCH!" also works

10:03 matey; then a bunch of hysterical people concur and say its even worse than that

10:03 matey; then guilt is assumed

10:03 matey; then we burn the witch

10:03 matey; then everyone goes home

10:03 matey; then you find out that a lot of things were exaggerated or made up, or at least not entirely true

10:04 matey; maybe

10:04 matey; i mean, i figure at least some percentage of cancelled people deserve it

10:04 matey; like alex jones, seems more and more like really

10:04 matey; you can ALSO do due process after the witch burning

10:04 matey; it doesnt bring the witch back of course

10:04 matey; but its a good way to evaluate mobs

10:05 matey; the mob that cancelled stallman looks different than the mob that (at the time) was cancelling him

10:05 matey; the history is getting rewritten here and there

10:06 matey; we gradually find out bits and pieces of what it was REALLY about

10:06 matey; but the real story doesnt quite match the narrative at the time

10:06 matey; i mean, the narrative at the time was bullshit

10:06 matey; and since people know that, they have to give a version they think is more... reasonable

10:07 matey; good luck unburning the witch

10:07 matey; i would say these people ended the free software movement

10:07 matey; and they definitely played a role

10:07 matey; but the biggest player will always be the corporations

10:07 matey; and open source

10:08 matey; the word "traitor" isnt unfair

10:08 matey; what do people think its FOR, anyway?

10:08 matey; but, one of the reasons im so interested in the whole affair is

10:08 matey; i actually DONT want to assume guilt 3000 times

10:09 matey; id LIKE to find some innocents there

10:09 matey; fucking shame then there are 3000 people padding that list

10:09 matey; they certainly didnt make it easy to find the ones who had a good reason to be on it

10:09 matey; but pat yourselves on the back, people

10:09 matey; stallman is fucking toast now

10:09 matey; well done, you killed the witch

10:10 matey; for no good reason

10:10 matey; and you helped a bunch of corporations destroy free software

10:10 matey; /me claps

10:10 matey; youll always be able to look back on that with pride

10:11 matey; empty, narcissistic pride

10:11 matey; but pride of some sort anyway

10:12 matey; ill never trust these people

10:13 matey; if we are lucky, we will be here long enough to see the movement recover from their bullshit

10:13 matey; i think they believed they would be that recovery

10:13 matey; look around

10:13 matey; they didnt have a real plan at all

10:14 matey; big surprise

10:14 matey; a bunch of lies and bullshit did more harm than good

10:14 matey; not that stallman was accomplishing anything, i mean

10:14 matey; he had half-retired by 2011

10:15 matey; what was actually lost was two-fold

10:15 matey; 1. it was better to have him keeping the seat warm until a suitable replacement was found

10:15 matey; he could have done that another 20 years perhaps

10:15 matey; 2. he was a symbol of the movement

10:16 matey; now it doesnt even have that

10:16 matey; but the biggest problem is related to that

10:16 matey; the well is poisoned

10:16 matey; anyone who WOULD BE suitable is now, in partisan bullshit terms

10:16 matey; "unelectable"

10:16 matey; theyve built an fsf that cant tolerate the only person suited to the job

10:17 matey; regardless of the fact that the fsf doesnt have anyone now--

10:17 matey; it also CANT host such a person

10:17 matey; the fsf has been immunised against its own mission

10:17 matey; so even if we went to mars, FOUND a second, younger, more powerful rms

10:17 matey; its like they say

10:17 matey; if jesus came back today he would be thrown in gitmo

10:17 matey; well done. backstabbers

10:18 matey; GOOD PLAN

10:18 matey; you scored one for open source

10:18 matey; in the name of free software

10:18 matey; /me claps

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10:31 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166144

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10:31 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

10:32 TR News; Fedora Linux 36 election results Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166145

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10:32 TR Bot; Fedora Linux 36 election results | Tux Machines

10:33 TR News; CrowPi L kit transforms a Raspberry Pi into a laptop (little assembly required) - Liliputing https://liliputing.com/2022/06/crowpi-l-kit-transforms-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-laptop-little-assembly-required.html Source: liliputing

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10:33 TR Bot; L kit transforms a Raspberry Pi into a laptop (little assembly required) - Liliputing

10:34 TR News; CrowPi L is a $200 laptop shell for Raspberry Pi 4 - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/17/crowpi-l-200-laptop-shell-for-raspberry-pi-4/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware

↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/17/crowpi-l-200-laptop-shell-for-raspberry-pi-4/

10:34 TR Bot; CrowPi L is a $200 laptop shell for Raspberry Pi 4 - CNX Software

10:36 TR News; Can Arduino help with tightrope walking? | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/17/can-arduino-help-with-tightrope-walking/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking

↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/17/can-arduino-help-with-tightrope-walking/

10:36 TR Bot; Can Arduino help with tightrope walking? | Arduino Blog

10:39 TR News; Square Enix Announces Final Fantasy VII Remake for Steam and the Steam Deck for June 17th - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/square-enix-announces-final-fantasy-vii-remake-for-steam-and-the-steam-deck-for-june-17th/ Source: boilingsteam

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10:40 TR Bot; Square Enix Announces Final Fantasy VII Remake for Steam and the Steam Deck for June 17th - Boiling Steam

10:43 TR News; fish 3.5.0 (released June 16, 2022) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166146

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10:43 TR Bot; fish 3.5.0 (released June 16, 2022) | Tux Machines

10:44 TR News; "There are days, however, when hybrid workers can feel disconnected. They see their teammates faces on the screen but miss the energy and culture they once experienced daily at the office." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/hybrid-work-4-ways-strengthen-relationships

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10:44 TR Bot; Hybrid work: 4 ways to strengthen relationships | The Enterprisers Project

10:45 TR News; IBCM wants you to be "IBM employee 100% of the time" i.e. a slave. No 4-day workweek https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/4-day-workweek-3-things-development-team-leaders-should-prioritize-instead

↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/4-day-workweek-3-things-development-team-leaders-should-prioritize-instead

10:45 TR Bot; The 4-day workweek: 3 things development team leaders should prioritize instead | The Enterprisers Project

10:45 TR News; Metasploit 6.2.0 comes with 138 new modules, 148 enhancements and features Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166147

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10:45 TR Bot; Metasploit 6.2.0 comes with 138 new modules, 148 enhancements and features | Tux Machines

10:47 TR News; Ubuntu Runs on a Google Nest Hub, Wait, What? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166122#comment-34040

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10:47 TR Bot; Hacker installs Ubuntu on a Google Nest Hub (2nd-gen) smart display | Tux Machines

10:48 TR News; ICBM said the word "masters" should be avoided; the double-standards are again showing... https://opensource.com/article/22/6/scrum-master-dancing

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10:48 TR Bot; scrum masters can learn from dancing | Opensource.com

10:49 TR News; ICBM does NOT have layoffs. It's just LIBERATING SLAVES.

10:50 TR News; My Favorite Modules: File::stat | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/06/my-favorite-modules-filestat.html Source: perl

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10:50 TR Bot; Favorite Modules: File::stat | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]

10:51 TR News; SUSE is schizo. It works like a department of SAP, pushing proprietary software instead of Free software. Like Novell did... https://www.suse.com/c/the-secret-to-delivering-sap-solutions-with-high-security-reliability-and-cost-savings/

↺ https://www.suse.com/c/the-secret-to-delivering-sap-solutions-with-high-security-reliability-and-cost-savings/

10:51 TR Bot; Secret to Delivering SAP Solutions with High Security, Reliability and Cost Savings | SUSE Communities

10:54 TR News; "It does have both Bluetooth and 802.11, but the only official method of using them is some dinky closed phone app. This is silly. I just did some reverse-engineering, and I now have a functional shell script to download the last few images via 802.11." http://notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2022/06/16_ricoh-gr-iiix-80211-reverse-engineering.html

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10:54 TR Bot; Ricoh GR IIIx 802.11 reverse engineering

10:55 TR News; "I've been using sbuild for a while to build my Debian packages, mainly because it's what is used by the Debian autobuilders, but also because it's pretty powerful and efficient." https://anarc.at/blog/2022-04-27-sbuild-qemu/

↺ https://anarc.at/blog/2022-04-27-sbuild-qemu/

10:55 TR Bot; building Debian packages under qemu with sbuild - anarcat

10:55 TR News; The History of Ubuntu Linux Distribution System Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166148

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10:55 TR Bot; The History of Ubuntu Linux Distribution System | Tux Machines

10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 0


11 AM, June 17

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11:07 TR News; Links 17/06/2022: Fish 3.5.0 and Metasploit 6.2.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/metasploit-6-2-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/metasploit-6-2-0/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/metasploit-6-2-0/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/metasploit-6-2-0/

11:07 TR Bot; Links 17/06/2022: Fish 3.5.0 and Metasploit 6.2.0 | Techrights

11:10 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166149

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11:10 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

11:11 TR News; CrowPi L, Turing Pi 2, and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166150

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11:11 TR Bot; CrowPi L, Turing Pi 2, and Arduino | Tux Machines

11:12 TR News; Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166151

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11:12 TR Bot; Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines

11:12 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166152

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11:12 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

11:12 TR News; Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166151

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11:12 TR News; timg - Terminal Image and Video Viewer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166153

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11:12 TR Bot; timg - Terminal Image and Video Viewer | Tux Machines

11:13 TR News; Beelink SER3 & SEi8 mini PCs review Part 2: Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166154

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11:13 TR Bot; Beelink SER3 & SEi8 mini PCs review Part 2: Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines

11:14 TR News; Ubuntu releases Core 22: Its IoT and edge distro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166053#comment-34042

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11:15 TR Bot; Canonical Releases Ubuntu Core 22 for IoT, Edge and Embedded Devices | Tux Machines

11:15 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/17/hundreds-of-civilians-are-trapped-in-the-besieged-azot-chemical-plant-in-sievierodonetsk "Hundreds of civilians are trapped in the besieged Azot chemical plant in Sieverodonetsk. The assault has drawn comparisons to Azovstal, but this time could be different"

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11:15 TR Bot; NO TITLE

11:15 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/17/macron-france-germany-italy-and-romania-vow-prompt-eu-candidate-status-to-ukraine-news "Macron: France, Germany, Italy and Romania vow prompt EU candidate status to Ukraine"

↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/17/macron-france-germany-italy-and-romania-vow-prompt-eu-candidate-status-to-ukraine-news

11:15 TR Bot; .

11:15 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/17/russian-court-sentences-former-us-embassy-worker-to-14-years-behind-bars-for-drug-smuggling-news "Russian court sentences former US embassy worker to 14 years behind bars for drug smuggling"

↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/17/russian-court-sentences-former-us-embassy-worker-to-14-years-behind-bars-for-drug-smuggling-news

11:15 TR Bot; .

11:15 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/17/bbc-ukrainian-nationals-beaten-and-tortured-at-russian-filtration-camps-news "Ukrainian nationals beaten and tortured at Russian filtration camps"

↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/17/bbc-ukrainian-nationals-beaten-and-tortured-at-russian-filtration-camps-news

11:15 TR Bot; .

11:15 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252295

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11:15 TR Bot; GRU agent who sought internship with International Criminal Court called Putin&#x27;s regime cancerous and retweeted Bellingcat&#x27;s publications

11:15 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252305

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11:15 TR Bot; Ukrainian Navy strikes Russian ship carrying ammunition, weapons and sailors to Snake Island

11:16 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353032/

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11:16 TR Bot; Evacuation from Sievierodonetsk Azot plant is impossible - Head of Luhansk Oblast Military Administration | Ukrayinska Pravda

11:16 TR News; Kdenlive 22.04.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166012#comment-34041

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11:16 TR Bot; Kdenlive 22.04.2 Released | Tux Machines

11:16 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1537656561430147082

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11:16 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "The UK sanctioned the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, for his support of Russias invasion of Ukraine. He "blessed" Russias conflicts abroad and has labeled Russias opponents in Ukraine evil forces. The sanctions did not go over well in Moscow. Watch:"|nitter

11:17 TR News; Display History with Date and Time in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166155

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11:17 TR Bot; Display History with Date and Time in Linux | Tux Machines

11:18 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/wikileaks/status/1537726323858219009 <https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353032/>

↺ https://nitter.net/wikileaks/status/1537726323858219009

↺ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353032/>

11:18 TR Bot; WikiLeaks (@wikileaks): "BREAKING: UK Home Secretary approves extradition of WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange to the US where he would face a 175 year sentence - A dark day for Press freedom and for British democracy The decision will be appealed https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/assangeappeal/"|nitter

↺ https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/assangeappeal/"|nitter

11:18 schestowitz_TR2; rianne just told me

11:18 schestowitz_TR2; see?

11:19 schestowitz_TR2; we're all for freedom

11:19 schestowitz_TR2; like putin

11:22 schestowitz_TR2; it has just beeb mentioned in another channel too

11:22 schestowitz_TR2; a political channel

11:25 XRevan86; schestowitz: True free country would've executed him as a mercenary a long time ago.

11:26 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166156

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166156

11:26 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

11:27 TR News; End the impunity: police surveillance and hacking in India must be eradicated - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/end-the-impunity-india-police-surveillance/ Source: accessnow

↺ https://www.accessnow.org/end-the-impunity-india-police-surveillance/

11:27 TR Bot; End the impunity: police surveillance and hacking in India must be eradicated - Access Now

11:29 TR News; Proprietary software is the only thing Microsoft promotes. GitHub is proprietary, VS Code is proprietary, and now this https://devclass.com/2022/06/16/dot_et_microsoft-introduces-closed-source-c-extension-for-vs-code/

↺ https://devclass.com/2022/06/16/dot_et_microsoft-introduces-closed-source-c-extension-for-vs-code/

11:29 TR Bot; Microsoft introduces closed-source C# extension for VS Code

11:35 *techrights_guest|93 (~5f5564f9@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights

11:36 schestowitz_TR2; morning,

11:36 schestowitz_TR2; techrights_guest|93

11:38 TR News; This guy installed Ubuntu Linux on his Google Nest Hub http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166122#comment-34043

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11:38 TR Bot; Hacker installs Ubuntu on a Google Nest Hub (2nd-gen) smart display | Tux Machines

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11:39 TR News; Sociopath. Many slaves in Twitter still tolerate this. https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/16/spacex_employees_decry_musks_behavior/

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11:39 TR Bot; SpaceX employees decry Musk's behavior in open letter The Register

11:43 TR News; Proprietary software can add more holes though https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/06/17/cyberark-endpoint-privilege-manager-for-linux/

↺ https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/06/17/cyberark-endpoint-privilege-manager-for-linux/

11:43 TR Bot; CyberArk Endpoint Privilege Manager protects Linux systems by enforcing least privilege policies - Help Net Security

11:45 TR News; Qt not in good shape since going proprietary. Lars is leaving. https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2022-June/042660.html

↺ https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2022-June/042660.html

11:45 TR Bot; [Development] New Chief Maintainer

11:46 TR News; Free software should be developed using Free/libre toolchains, i.e. not Qt anymore

11:47 TR News; "In November 2021 the FSFE has launched the new campaign "Upcycling Android". If you haven't already upcycled your phone or you are curious to learn more about the campaign listen to our new Software Freedom Podcast episode with the campaigns manager Erik Albers." https://fsfe.org/news/podcast/episode-15.en.html

↺ https://fsfe.org/news/podcast/episode-15.en.html

11:47 TR Bot; SFP#15: All about Upcycling Android - FSFE

11:54 TR News; "We are taking a break but we will be back soon (a couple of months)." Been 3 months now... https://www.linuxuserspace.show/220

↺ https://www.linuxuserspace.show/220

11:54 TR Bot; Linux User Space: Episode 2:20: AFK, TTYL

11:56 TR News; "The REUSE project is an effort to make Open Source projects provide copyright and license information (for all files) in a machine readable way." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/06/17/curl-is-reuse-compliant/

↺ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/06/17/curl-is-reuse-compliant/

11:57 TR Bot; is REUSE compliant | daniel.haxx.se

11:59 TR News; The criminals from Microsoft have been very welcoming of other criminals. https://www.crn.com/news/security/proofpoint-potentially-dangerous-flaw-could-allow-ransomware-attacks-on-microsoft-sharepoint-onedrive

↺ https://www.crn.com/news/security/proofpoint-potentially-dangerous-flaw-could-allow-ransomware-attacks-on-microsoft-sharepoint-onedrive

11:59 TR Bot; Proofpoint: Potentially Dangerous Flaw Could Allow Ransomware Attacks On Microsoft SharePoint, OneDrive


noon, June 17

12:00 TR News; venus: add event and fence feedback (!16731) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/16731 Source: gitlab | freedesktop

↺ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/16731

12:00 TR Bot; venus: add event and fence feedback (!16731) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab

12:00 TR News; todays howtos Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166157

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166157

12:00 TR Bot; today''s howtos | Tux Machines

12:01 TR News; Fedora Workstations State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166158

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166158

12:01 TR Bot; Fedora Workstations State of Gaming - A Case Study of Far Cry 5 (2018) | Tux Machines

12:02 TR News; Download deepin 20.6 with Mirrors, Torrents, and Checksums http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/download-deepin-206-with-mirrors.html Source: UbuntuBuzz | GNU | Linux

↺ http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/download-deepin-206-with-mirrors.html

12:02 TR Bot; Download deepin 20.6 with Mirrors, Torrents, and Checksums

12:03 TR News; Surveillance devices spun as "smart"; connects to listening devices https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/17/sonoff-pow-elite-esp32-wifi-power-meter-switch-handles-up-to-20a-load/

↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/17/sonoff-pow-elite-esp32-wifi-power-meter-switch-handles-up-to-20a-load/

12:03 TR Bot; SONOFF POW Elite ESP32 WiFi power meter switch handles up to 20A load - CNX Software

12:04 TR News; "Smart" meters are for dumb people or people blackmailed by companies and governments into having one attached to their homes...

12:08 TR News; Today the UK 'court' system or regime decided to once again 'virtue-signal' to war criminals: we are on the side of war criminals, we shall protect war criminals (unless they speak Russian), we'll even assassinate people who merely speak about or expose the war crimes. This means that, inter alia, we've governed by criminals.

12:11 TR News; iTWire - UK approves Assange extradition to US, WikiLeaks says it will appeal https://itwire.com/strategy/uk-approves-assange-extradition-to-us,-wikileaks-says-it-will-appeal.html Source: itwire

↺ https://itwire.com/strategy/uk-approves-assange-extradition-to-us,-wikileaks-says-it-will-appeal.html

12:11 TR Bot; - UK approves Assange extradition to US, WikiLeaks says it will appeal

12:12 TR News; Gulag https://medium.com/@kwilliamlloyd/the-cult-in-google-3c1a910214d1

↺ https://medium.com/@kwilliamlloyd/the-cult-in-google-3c1a910214d1

12:12 TR Bot; Cult in Google. I worked for Google for about three and | by Kevin Lloyd | Jun, 2022 | Medium

12:14 TR News; Don't be that open-source user, don't be me https://jacobtomlinson.dev/posts/2022/dont-be-that-open-source-user-dont-be-me/

↺ https://jacobtomlinson.dev/posts/2022/dont-be-that-open-source-user-dont-be-me/

12:14 TR Bot; NO TITLE

12:15 TR News; Cool Desktops Dont Change https://tylercipriani.com/blog/2022/06/15/choose-boring-desktop-technology/

↺ https://tylercipriani.com/blog/2022/06/15/choose-boring-desktop-technology/

12:15 TR Bot; Cool desktops dont change - Tyler Cipriani

12:16 TR News; The computers are fast, but you don't know it http://shvbsle.in/computers-are-fast-but-you-dont-know-it-p1/

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12:16 TR Bot; The computers are fast, but you don't know it | Computer Science After Dark

12:16 TR News; Qt News and Moves Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166159

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12:16 TR Bot; Qt News and Moves | Tux Machines

12:17 TR News; Cargo Culting Software Engineering Practices https://isthisit.nz/posts/2022/cargo-culting-software-engineering-practices/ Source: isthisit

↺ https://isthisit.nz/posts/2022/cargo-culting-software-engineering-practices/

12:17 TR Bot; Cargo Culting Software Engineering Practices

12:20 TR News; Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166160

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12:20 TR Bot; Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines

12:20 MinceR; 17 121640 < XRevan86> https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1537656561430147082

↺ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1537656561430147082

12:20 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "The UK sanctioned the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, for his support of Russias invasion of Ukraine. He "blessed" Russias conflicts abroad and has labeled Russias opponents in Ukraine evil forces. The sanctions did not go over well in Moscow. Watch:"|nitter

12:21 MinceR; the EU would have done the same, were it not for the traitorous gypsy king

12:22 TR News; [PULL] drm-misc-next - Thomas Zimmermann https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/YqwriEhn0l4uO+Gn@linux-uq9g/ Source: linux

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12:22 TR Bot; [PULL] drm-misc-next - Thomas Zimmermann

12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi

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12:30 TR News; Rotting away due to ICBM policy: "Purpose of this team is to take care of day to day business regarding CentOS and Fedora Infrastructure and Fedora release engineering work." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-24-2022/

↺ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-24-2022/

12:30 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update Week 24 2022 Fedora Community Blog

12:32 TR News; Community work group update post oSC22 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166116#comment-34045

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166116#comment-34045

12:32 TR Bot; OpenSUSE: Base Container Images (BCI) and ALP Quality Engineering | Tux Machines

12:41 TR News; Links 17/06/2022: Wikileaks to Appeal Decision to Extradite Assange for Exposing War Crimes (to Protect War Criminals) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/decision-to-extradite-assange/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/decision-to-extradite-assange/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/decision-to-extradite-assange/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/decision-to-extradite-assange/

12:41 TR Bot; Links 17/06/2022: Wikileaks to Appeal Decision to Extradite Assange for Exposing War Crimes (to Protect War Criminals) | Techrights

12:44 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166161

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12:44 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines

12:44 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166162

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166162

12:44 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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12:53 TR News; Tracking People via Bluetooth on Their Phones - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/tracking-people-via-bluetooth-on-their-phones.html the problem is that far too many people are brainwashed into 'wanting' such "phones"

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/tracking-people-via-bluetooth-on-their-phones.html

12:53 TR Bot; People via Bluetooth on Their Phones - Schneier on Security

12:54 TR News; Always-On Bluetooth Could Be Used to Track Your Phone https://gizmodo.com/bluetooth-tracking-iphone-airtags-1849042375 the government and corporations do the same regardless. Bluetooth is an issue, but mobile phones are a BIGGER issue.

↺ https://gizmodo.com/bluetooth-tracking-iphone-airtags-1849042375

12:54 TR Bot; Always-On Bluetooth Could Be Used to Track Your Phone

12:56 TR News; From "The Linux Gamer" to "The Valve Shill" (even Windows sometimes) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_L-RJkFOdCc Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_L-RJkFOdCc

12:56 TR Bot; A new Deck APU driver for Windows fixes Halo Infinite regression (plus other Deck News) - Invidious

12:57 XRevan86; MinceR: Yea.

12:57 TR News; Help the CMA help theWeb https://www.kryogenix.org/days/2022/06/17/help-the-cma-help-the-web/ Source: kryogenix

↺ https://www.kryogenix.org/days/2022/06/17/help-the-cma-help-the-web/

12:57 TR Bot; as days pass by Help the CMA help theWeb

12:58 TR News; UK sides with war criminals https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/world/europe/assange-extradition.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/world/europe/assange-extradition.html

12:58 TR Bot; Britain Approves Extradition Order for Assange - The New York Times

12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

12:59 TR News; Priti Patel pretty certain that war crimes are OK https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/uk/uk-julian-assange-extradition-priti-patel-intl-gbr/index.html

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/uk/uk-julian-assange-extradition-priti-patel-intl-gbr/index.html

12:59 TR Bot; Julian Assange's extradition to US approved by UK government - CNN


1 PM, June 17

13:00 TR News; This is how you get promoted in the UK government: support criminals https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/06/17/wikileaks-julian-assange-extradition-u-s-face-spying-charges-priti-patel/9957335002/

↺ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/06/17/wikileaks-julian-assange-extradition-u-s-face-spying-charges-priti-patel/9957335002/

13:00 TR Bot; WikiLeaks' Julian Assange extradition to US approved by UK

13:00 TR News; How Scandinavian press covers it https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/wikileaks-vil-anke-utlevering-1.16006718 https://www.svd.se/v5qmBX https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2022-06-17/storbritannien-godkanner-utlamning-av-assange?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=site-feed&utm_campaign=rss https://www.svd.se/a7V2Qd

↺ https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/wikileaks-vil-anke-utlevering-1.16006718

↺ https://www.svd.se/v5qmBX

↺ https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2022-06-17/storbritannien-godkanner-utlamning-av-assange?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=site-feed&utm_campaign=rss

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13:00 TR Bot; Wikileaks vil anke utlevering Siste nytt NRK

13:00 TR Bot; Storbritannien godknner utlmning av Assange | SvD

13:00 TR Bot; Storbritannien godknner utlmning av Assange Sydsvenskan

13:00 TR Bot; Storbritannien sger ja till att utlmna Julian Assange till USA | SvD

13:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> UK sides with war criminals https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/world/europe/assange-extradition.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/world/europe/assange-extradition.html

13:02 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.nytimes.com | Britain Approves Extradition Order for Assange - The New York Times

13:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Priti Patel pretty certain that war crimes are OK https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/uk/uk-julian-assange-extradition-priti-patel-intl-gbr/index.html

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/uk/uk-julian-assange-extradition-priti-patel-intl-gbr/index.html

13:02 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- edition.cnn.com | Julian Assange's extradition to US approved by UK government - CNN

13:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This is how you get promoted in the UK government: support criminals https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/06/17/wikileaks-julian-assange-extradition-u-s-face-spying-charges-priti-patel/9957335002/

↺ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/06/17/wikileaks-julian-assange-extradition-u-s-face-spying-charges-priti-patel/9957335002/

13:02 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.usatoday.com | WikiLeaks' Julian Assange extradition to US approved by UK

13:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> How Scandinavian press covers it https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/wikileaks-vil-anke-utlevering-1.16006718 https://www.svd.se/v5qmBX https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2022-06-17/storbritannien-godkanner-utlamning-av-assange?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=site-feed&utm_campaign=rss https://www.svd.se/a7V2Qd

↺ https://www.nrk.no/nyheter/wikileaks-vil-anke-utlevering-1.16006718

↺ https://www.svd.se/v5qmBX

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13:02 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.nrk.no | Wikileaks vil anke utlevering Siste nytt NRK

13:02 schestowitz-TR; www.svd.se | Storbritannien godknner utlmning av Assange | SvD

13:02 schestowitz-TR; www.sydsvenskan.se | Storbritannien godknner utlmning av Assange Sydsvenskan

13:02 schestowitz-TR; www.svd.se | Storbritannien sger ja till att utlmna Julian Assange till USA | SvD

13:26 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/09/artist-scott-hilburn-makes-comics-that-are-equal-parts-funny-and-absurd-20-comics/

↺ https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/09/artist-scott-hilburn-makes-comics-that-are-equal-parts-funny-and-absurd-20-comics/

13:26 TR Bot; Artist Scott Hilburn Makes Comics That Are Equal Parts Funny And Absurd (20 Comics)


2 PM, June 17

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14:29 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252312

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14:29 TR Bot; Kyiv&#x27;s approach to Crimean question changed after February 24, Zelensky spokesperson says

14:29 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252317

↺ https://theins.press/en/news/252317

14:29 TR Bot; 70% of Russian tugboat crew wounded, Ukrainian Navy command reports

14:30 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353065/

↺ https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353065/

14:30 TR Bot; Ukraine implements visa regime with Russia ? Zelenskyy | Ukrayinska Pravda

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15:17 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-9-22-13.jpg

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15:24 m1k3; @schestowitz_TR2, I like the summary video

15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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15:53 schestowitz-TR; m1k3io: great.

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15:58 TR News; "I've seen many discussions in socialist and Marxist thought about two different kinds of property: private property and personal property." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220617-property.gmi

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15:59 TR News; "I'm a heavy VRChat player. My setup wasn't really good for VR per se. I had a relatively weak PC and limited LAN bandwidth. The upgrade is a bit costly, but I'm happy with the money spent. Also some unexpected issues caused my the upgrade." gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/06-17-upgrading-wifi-bandwidth-hardware-codec-for-vr-experience.gmi

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4 PM, June 17

16:15 TR News; I had never been in a meeting in my 33-year business career in which a competitor had so blatantly implied that we should either stop competing with it or the competitor would kill us" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3663442/death-of-internet-explorer-good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish.html

↺ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3663442/death-of-internet-explorer-good-riddance-to-bad-rubbish.html

16:15 TR Bot; death of Internet Explorer: Good riddance to bad rubbish | Computerworld

16:17 TR News; "A special episode today as TechnoTim joins Alex to discuss everything Kubernetes and HomeLab. The #100DaysOfHomeLab initiative from Tim is just getting started, find out what its all about in today's episode." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148952/100-days-of-homelab-self-hosted-73/

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16:17 TR Bot; 100 Days of HomeLab | Self-Hosted 73 | Jupiter Broadcasting

16:18 SomeH4x0r; it is not "death". It is computing done wrong.

16:19 SomeH4x0r; Bit rot should not exist. It is a problem with computing.

16:21 schestowitz_TR2; nostly software

16:21 schestowitz_TR2; surel, stgorage devices have limites lif

16:21 schestowitz_TR2; but the older ones not quote

16:21 schestowitz_TR2; logevity ceased to matter at some point

16:21 schestowitz_TR2; ssd loses data without charge

16:21 schestowitz_TR2; *limited life

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16:23 TR News; Mozilla is not a tech company but a leech living off of Google money to pretend choice and competition exist https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/brandon-kyle-goodman-big-mouth-messy-mondays-online-community/

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16:23 TR Bot; Firefox Presents: Redefining love and identity, one viral video at a time

16:23 SomeH4x0r; yes, I refer to software

16:23 SomeH4x0r; software should not "die" if left with no official support

16:24 TR News; When you cannot compete on tech and resort to politics http://techrights.org/2022/06/13/mozilla-politics-blog/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/13/mozilla-politics-blog/

16:24 TR Bot; Mozilla, Just Like the Linux Foundation, Has Turned to Politics at Firefoxs Expense | Techrights

16:24 TR News; When your reputation is down the drain http://techrights.org/2022/05/31/the-linux-foundation-politics/

http://techrights.org/2022/05/31/the-linux-foundation-politics/

16:24 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation Has Turned Its Blog (and the Linux.com Web Site) Into Politics (Updated) | Techrights

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16:30 TR News; Cops were always rather incredulous and violent. Should we help them get worse by equipping us and them with tech? No. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/police-contactless-fingerprints-photos

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16:30 TR Bot; Contactless Fingerprinting Uses Phone Cameras to Capture Prints | WIRED UK

16:31 schestowitz_TR2; SomeH4x0r: that happens a lot with proprietary

16:31 schestowitz_TR2; a lot of old CMS stuff still works

16:31 schestowitz_TR2; and some people patch it

16:31 SomeH4x0r; free software can have bit rot too if no one cares to patch it

16:32 TR News; There's no such thing as "private clouds"; you just mean servers. Stop calling everything "clown". https://ubuntu.com//blog/private_cloud_future_dcaas

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16:32 TR Bot; private cloud future: Data centres as a service | Ubuntu

16:33 schestowitz_TR2; if you don't patch it, then it's mostly your fault

16:33 schestowitz_TR2; provided a patch is available and publicised

16:34 TR News; Monica Setup on Portainer | A Personal Relationship Manager - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=czhioZfyQ9I Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia

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16:34 TR Bot; Monica Setup on Portainer | A Personal Relationship Manager - Invidious

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16:51 AdmFubar; so much for muck's "free speech" initiative https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/musk-spacex-employees-fired

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16:51 TR Bot; employees who wrote letter about Elon Musk were fired - Protocol

16:53 m1k3; schestowitz_TR2: I don't know about you but I still use the oxygen theme in KDE plasma. I just can't stand the flat look of GUIs these days.

16:53 schestowitz_TR2; yes, oxygen is good

16:53 schestowitz_TR2; but,,

16:53 schestowitz_TR2; in plasma5 they got a little less appealing to me

16:54 schestowitz_TR2; when the portuguese guy made the theme for qt4/kde4 it was better

16:54 schestowitz_TR2; I still have one laptop running with that theme

16:54 m1k3; What do you use on your other computers?

16:54 schestowitz_TR2; AdmFubar: yes, I saw that yesterday

16:54 schestowitz_TR2; musk is an arsehole and fraud

16:54 schestowitz_TR2; no person shouls till poost anything in twitter

16:54 m1k3; I agree, Musk is a twat

16:55 schestowitz_TR2; m1k3: gnome3, xfce4, plasma5 stable, plasma latest, and kde4

16:55 schestowitz_TR2; kde neon always has the latest

16:55 schestowitz_TR2; at some point in life most people reach cthe conclusion the planet is governed by very sick people

16:55 m1k3; schestowitz_TR2: Wow, you use it all huh?

16:56 schestowitz_TR2; and they are attracted to each other's sickness

16:56 schestowitz_TR2; m1k3: it's an old system I use only as a terminal

16:57 m1k3; The one with kde4?

16:57 m1k3; Which DE do you prefer the most?

16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 0


5 PM, June 17

17:01 m1k3; I really need to learn more about IPFS

17:04 schestowitz_TR2; KDE

17:04 schestowitz_TR2; IPFS is not so great

17:04 schestowitz_TR2; don't take it too seriously

17:04 schestowitz_TR2; it does not scale well

17:04 schestowitz_TR2; it works OK when things are small

17:04 schestowitz_TR2; they might be able to fix this over time

17:08 TR News; </ul>

17:08 m1k3; Do you have any thoughts on Skynet?

17:08 TR News; Most people can PRE-order, but vloggers and bloggers are being given these as gifts for fake "reviews"... or "benchmarks" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=hp-devone-linux&num=1 http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

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http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/

17:08 TR Bot; Performance Of Six Linux Distributions On The HP Dev One - Phoronix

17:08 TR Bot; When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights

17:08 m1k3; Not the Terminator one. lol

17:09 TR News; Ethical issues associated with bribery aside, my concern is that we'll have some GNU/Linux products out there whose reviews we simply cannot trust because they were 'seeded' with strings attached

17:09 m1k3; https://skynetlabs.com/

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17:09 TR Bot; Decentralized Internet for a Free Future | Skynet Labs

17:11 TR News; Corporate media: Western "tech" corporations are a success story. Us sceptics: BUT DO THEY MAKE MONEY? (Other than Pentagon graft, i.e. subsidies from US taxpayers through national debt) https://www.maketecheasier.com/snapchat-plus-paid-subscription/

↺ https://www.maketecheasier.com/snapchat-plus-paid-subscription/

17:11 TR Bot; Snapchat Plus Is Paid Subscription to Cover Revenue Loss - Make Tech Easier

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17:34 matey; schestowitz_TR2 | IPFS is not so great schestowitz_TR2 | don't take it too seriously

17:35 matey; do you have a bicycle? they dont scale well either

17:35 matey; terrible at handling heavy freight, especially over distances

17:35 matey; you should replace your bicycle with a lorry

17:35 schestowitz_TR2; we have just cycled in facxt

17:36 schestowitz_TR2; carried about 15 kg of food home

17:36 matey; a lorry can handle a lot more though

17:36 schestowitz_TR2; ipfs is for particular things

17:36 schestowitz_TR2; peertube too

17:36 matey; yes its for particular things

17:36 schestowitz_TR2; peertube is ok for vitral videos (i hate the term viral)

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17:58 matey; /me figures that bittorrent is the protocol people should probably use if they want to do large files

17:58 SomeH4x0r; hi

17:58 matey; ipfs came later and probably does a better job of holding small files together (but larger files would tax the whole thing too much)

17:59 matey; since there wasnt an ambition to make it work for things bittorrent is capable of (its not a bittorrent replacement) the only people who will likely "fix" this are the ones who want to sacrifice one of ipfs core features for similarity with an existing protocol


6 PM, June 17

18:00 matey; so then youll have two bittorrents

18:00 matey; but ipfs wont be as well suited to what it was designed for

18:00 matey; but then thats a common pattern in the tech industry, so dont give up hope yet

18:01 schestowitz_TR2; it's still going

18:01 schestowitz_TR2; atm I have another issue

18:01 schestowitz_TR2; a bad kernel on that machine, which seems not compatible with iptables

18:02 schestowitz_TR2; so I cannot throttle down ipfs

18:02 matey; you use iptables for throttling?

18:02 schestowitz_TR2; I used to check EVERY DAY for kernel updates

18:02 schestowitz_TR2; to overcome this issue

18:02 schestowitz_TR2; it also knocked out wifi support on there

18:03 schestowitz_TR2; so now it's on a blue ethernet cord

18:03 matey; as most servers should be

18:03 matey; only for your own sanity

18:03 schestowitz_TR2; depends how far the router is

18:03 matey; server + wifi = wtf

18:03 schestowitz_TR2; we already have agiant long cable going across floors

18:03 matey; depends how far the router is <- i guess

18:04 matey; if we are talking about a pi, id say put it closer to the router

18:04 matey; you can always do it another way

18:04 schestowitz_TR2; in case we move to fibre later on, this cable will be better suited

18:04 matey; but if you stack fuckery you get stacked fuckery

18:04 schestowitz_TR2; what is the limit on wifi speed and whicih wifi version?

18:05 matey; for wifi the issues are support and reliability

18:05 matey; its not a question of speed

18:05 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166163

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18:05 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

18:05 schestowitz_TR2; but wifi does have its limits

18:05 matey; every network has its limits, or we could talk to pluto quite easily

18:06 matey; fortunately pluto probably has very little to say

18:06 matey; but it would be convenient if networking had no limits, if we wanted to send a probe there

18:08 schestowitz_TR2; you could just say yoiu don't know the nswer

18:08 schestowitz_TR2; I don't know eithe

18:08 schestowitz_TR2; rchecking now

18:09 schestowitz_TR2; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11g-2003

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18:09 TR Bot; IEEE 802.11g-2003 - Wikipedia

18:09 schestowitz_TR2; 6 to 54 Mbit/s

18:09 schestowitz_TR2; so less thsn MB/sec and up

18:10 schestowitz_TR2; up to 10 MByte/sec

18:10 schestowitz_TR2; maybe depends on signal

18:11 TR News; Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166164

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18:11 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 4 | Tux Machines

18:11 schestowitz_TR2; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable

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18:11 TR Bot; Category 5 cable - Wikipedia

18:12 schestowitz_TR2; "The cable standard provides performance of up to 100 MHz and is suitable for most varieties of Ethernet over twisted pair up to 2.5GBASE-T[1][2][3][4] but more commonly runs at 1000BASE-T (Gigabit Ethernet) speeds. Cat 5 is also used to carry other signals such as telephone and video."

18:12 schestowitz_TR2; can ddo over 100MB/sec

18:12 schestowitz_TR2; like USB2/3

18:13 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166165

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18:13 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

18:15 TR News; The ways you can run Linux on the MacBook Air (2022) https://www.xda-developers.com/can-macbook-air-2022-run-linux/ Source: xda-developers

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18:15 TR Bot; The ways you can run Linux on the MacBook Air (2022)

18:17 TR News; Clown.. clown... clown... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-cloud-application-and-data-services-red-hat-hybrid-cloud-console Red Hat a bunch of clowns now?

↺ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-cloud-application-and-data-services-red-hat-hybrid-cloud-console

18:17 TR Bot; Using cloud, application and data servicesplus other hosted toolsin the Red Hat Hybrid Cloud Console

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18:18 TR News; Red Hat does not recognise an enemy and instead advertises Microsoft proprietary software while hiring from Microsoft for management positions https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/deploy-enterprise-applications-red-hat-enterprise-linux-microsoft-azure

↺ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/deploy-enterprise-applications-red-hat-enterprise-linux-microsoft-azure

18:18 TR Bot; Deploy enterprise applications on Red Hat Enterprise Linux in Microsoft Azure

18:19 TR News; ICBM veteran Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Can We Trust Our Impressive AI Language Models? https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/06/can-we-trust-our-impressive-ai-language-models.html Source: irvingwb

↺ https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/06/can-we-trust-our-impressive-ai-language-models.html

18:19 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Can We Trust Our Impressive AI Language Models?

18:19 matey; you could just say yoiu don't know the nswer <- i dont understand the relevance of the question

18:20 schestowitz_TR2; some servers rely on certain throughput upstream and downtream

18:20 schestowitz_TR2; so they cannot work wirelessly

18:21 m1k3; schestowitz_TR2, are much of your services running on your own machines?

18:22 TR News; Comparing tech to a grain of rice in size https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/17/u-blox-unveils-miniature-mia-m10-gps-module/

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18:22 TR Bot; u-blox unveils miniature MIA-M10 GPS module - CNX Software

18:22 schestowitz_TR2; what's fessibl;e

18:23 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/24 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-24/

↺ https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-24/

18:23 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/24 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)

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18:23 m1k3; Makes sense

18:28 XRevan86; https://bbc.com/news/world-europe-61825525 <https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353065/>

↺ https://bbc.com/news/world-europe-61825525

↺ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/17/7353065/>

18:28 TR Bot; Russia is not squeaky clean and not ashamed - BBC News

18:28 TR Bot; Ukraine implements visa regime with Russia ? Zelenskyy | Ukrayinska Pravda

18:28 XRevan86; > I replied that the men had served in the Ukrainian armed forces and were not mercenaries, and Mr Lavrov said that should be decided by a court.

18:29 XRevan86; A universal answer there, if there's an obvious hole in the logic, just say the court should decide.

18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

18:30 XRevan86; Of course the so-called DPR's "court" has already decided that the Ukrainian army soldiers, including a Ukrainian citizen, are mercenaries and should be executed.

18:30 XRevan86; Trust in the court.

18:33 XRevan86; > I am not interested in the eyes of the West at all. I am only interested in international law. According to international law, mercenaries are not recognised as combatants.

18:36 TR News; Openwashing crock or how to farm volunteer (slaves) to work for your corporation for no salary https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/a-new-framework-for-in-person-ospo-workshops-todo-group-seeks-collaborators/

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18:36 TR Bot; A New Framework for In-Person OSPO Workshops: TODO Group Seeks Collaborators - Linux Foundation

18:38 TR News; Those are not communities! They openwashing corporate incubators, cultivating the false impression that corporations are altruistic https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/one-place-to-manage-your-open-source-projects-and-communities/

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18:38 TR Bot; One Place to Manage Your Open Source Projects and Communities - Linux Foundation

18:39 TR News; "I started the Calliope playlist toolkit back in 2016. The goal is to bring open data together and allow making DIY music recommenders, but its rather abstract to explain this via the medium of JSON documents. Coupled with a desire to play with GTK4" https://samthursfield.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/status-update-17-06-2022/

↺ https://samthursfield.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/status-update-17-06-2022/

18:39 TR Bot; Status update, 17/06/2022 Sam Thursfield

18:46 *psydruid suggests morgues and cemeteries as the ultimate locations for communities of dead people

18:47 m1k3; I'm really digging the Lagrange gemini client

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18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 0


7 PM, June 17

19:00 schestowitz_TR2; I use it right no

19:00 schestowitz_TR2; *now

19:02 TR News; OpenBSD - Part 3 gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-06-17.gmi

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19:03 TR News; "I'm also actively looking for a job so my year of unemployment is about to come to an end hopefully in the next weeks. I don't want to work when I'm only starting to find my own pace, but I need money so I can buy a piece of soil somewhere and grow tomatoes and basil on it!" gemini://dece.space/notes/20220617.gmi

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19:03 TR News; "I'm persuaded by the Golden Rule: treat others as you would wish to be treated. I think most people are happy with this as the basis for how to treat people, but not everyone." gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-06-17_Christina_s_questions_for_June.gmi

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19:04 TR News; "This is a wordlog for the SpellBinding puzzle" AUMNORL Wordo: RETRY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-17.gmi

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19:05 TR News; "What it about and why do I want to read it? Understanding science has always been "my thing" ever since elementary school. What is fire, why does it rain, what are living things, what am I, Why do people act the way they do? Im someone who likes asking questions and getting answers." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-17-foggyday.gmi

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19:07 TR News; Baby cat (big cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D264.jpg

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19:37 TR News; "Whitney discusses the parallels between the rescue of Emergent Biosolutions with anthrax (and potentially now monkeypox) and the rescue of Moderna and BioNTech with Covid." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/06/press/doctors-for-covid-ethics/

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19:37 TR Bot; Doctors for Covid Ethics

19:37 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Kaisen Linux 2.1 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=APgUF5oCVLc

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=APgUF5oCVLc

19:37 TR Bot; Kaisen Linux 2.1 overview | The distribution for professional IT. - Invidious

19:39 TR News; I subscribed to this blog because it covered technical stuff. This past week almost 7 posts about queer stuff, almost 100% of the posts. Now https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/queer-singer-songwriter-criibaby-finds-pride-and-joy-at-the-intersection-of-tech-and-music/

↺ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/queer-singer-songwriter-criibaby-finds-pride-and-joy-at-the-intersection-of-tech-and-music/

19:39 TR Bot; Queer Singer/Songwriter Criibaby Finds Pride and Joy at the Intersection of Tech and Music

19:40 TR News; It's like Mozilla is trying hard to intentionally spoil the Mozilla and Firefox by associating them with divisive political issues, consciously. What next? You cannot use Firefox if you support abortion?

19:44 TR News; "GSoC coding period started on Monday, so this is a good time to blog about what Ive started working on and whats my milestone to finish the project." https://melix99.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/gsoc-update-1-planning/

↺ https://melix99.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/gsoc-update-1-planning/

19:44 TR Bot; GSoC update #1 Planning Space Penguin

19:46 TR News; It is highly doubtful Mozilla actively tries to kill itself -- I never ever claimed that !! -- but that the wrong people were left in positions of power when Gulag sponsors and picks the leadership... that's possible. Then they grab popcorn and see Firefox share going down.

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19:50 DaemonFC; https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2022-21166

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19:50 TR Bot; CVE - CVE-2022-21166

19:50 DaemonFC; "Incomplete cleanup in specific special register write operations for some Intel(R) Processors may allow an authenticated user to potentially enable information disclosure via local access."

19:51 DaemonFC; https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2022-21125

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19:51 TR Bot; CVE - CVE-2022-21125

19:51 DaemonFC; "Incomplete cleanup of microarchitectural fill buffers on some Intel(R) Processors may allow an authenticated user to potentially enable information disclosure via local access."

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19:51 DaemonFC; https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2022-21123

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19:51 TR Bot; CVE - CVE-2022-21123

19:51 DaemonFC; "Incomplete cleanup of multi-core shared buffers for some Intel(R) Processors may allow an authenticated user to potentially enable information disclosure via local access."

19:52 DaemonFC; LOL

19:52 DaemonFC; So, three more Intel CVEs that had to be closed via microcode updates. They're in Microsoft's CVE system too because they pushed them out via Windows Update.

19:52 TR News; Openwashing and greenwashing of dirty energy by the so-called 'Linux' Foundation (it is not about Linux) https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/the-sogno-project-wins-prestigious-award-for-focus-on-modular-grid-automation/

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19:52 TR Bot; The SOGNO Project Wins Prestigious Award for Focus on Modular Grid Automation - Linux Foundation

19:53 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation represents Linux like Wall Street represents the people of the United States of America

19:54 DaemonFC; Pipewire update "Add patch to fix stuttering in TeamSpeak."

19:54 DaemonFC; It's nice to know that there's patches to cover up bugs in proprietary software.

19:55 TR News; Asking the 'Linux' Foundation what Linux IS would be like asking the Amish what's on TV....

19:57 TR News; David REVOY abandons Ubuntu due to Snaps and Canonical's Hubris (worry not! He still uses what he calls "GNU/Linux") https://www.davidrevoy.com/article913/fedora-36-kde-spin-for-a-digital-painting-workstation-reasons-and-post-install-guide

↺ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article913/fedora-36-kde-spin-for-a-digital-painting-workstation-reasons-and-post-install-guide

19:57 TR Bot; Fedora 36 KDE Spin for a digital painting workstation: reasons and post-install guide - David Revoy

19:58 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Where?


8 PM, June 17

20:00 TR News; Many people STILL think Twitter is a "thing"; wait till Musk officially takes over (or walks away; then the company rots to death). It'll be a SPECTACLE!

20:00 TR News; This RGB wedding dress mimics Princess Auroras from Sleeping Beauty | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/17/this-rgb-wedding-dress-mimics-princess-auroras-from-sleeping-beauty/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking

↺ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/17/this-rgb-wedding-dress-mimics-princess-auroras-from-sleeping-beauty/

20:00 TR Bot; This RGB wedding dress mimics Princess Auroras from Sleeping Beauty | Arduino Blog

20:01 TR News; Fedora Family / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166166

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166166

20:01 TR Bot; Fedora Family / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines

20:14 TR News; Antoine Beaupr: Matrix notes https://anarc.at/blog/2022-06-17-matrix-notes/ very nice and detailed. I still prefer IRC.

↺ https://anarc.at/blog/2022-06-17-matrix-notes/

20:14 TR Bot; Matrix notes - anarcat

20:16 TR News; Many people conflate being shy or wary of criticising something as actual acceptance of that something. How wrong are they... corporations do this a lot

20:19 TR News; Data Brokers: What Are They & How Do They Work? - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/data-brokers/ When the state insists spying on everyone is "necessary" (terrorists, the children etc.) the crooks who violate our human rights are tolerated and even funded by the state

↺ https://www.linuxlinks.com/data-brokers/

20:19 TR Bot; Brokers: What Are They & How Do They Work? - LinuxLinks

20:20 TR News; Fedora 36 KDE Spin for a digital painting workstation: reasons and post-install guide Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166167

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166167

20:20 TR Bot; Fedora 36 KDE Spin for a digital painting workstation: reasons and post-install guide | Tux Machines

20:21 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Kaisen Linux, Monica, Kubernetes, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166168

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166168

20:21 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Kaisen Linux, Monica, Kubernetes, and More | Tux Machines

20:21 TR News; Linux Foundation and Openwashing Agenda Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166169

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166169

20:21 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and Openwashing Agenda | Tux Machines

20:21 TR News; Sam Thursfield: Status update, 17/06/2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166170

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20:21 TR Bot; Sam Thursfield: Status update, 17/06/2022 | Tux Machines

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20:24 TR News; While I do NOT support ICBM (it has done GREAT HARM to Red Hat), I am HAPPY to see people moving from Ubuntu from Fedora because having tons of GNU/Linux users all on the same distro -- or same chain/base -- defeats the purpose of GNU/Linux freedom. Same for the distributed Internet/Web. We need many, many actors with users scattered across loads of them. IRC, Matrix, Diaspora, Mastodon, Invidious, PeerTube etc.

20:26 TR News; Software freedom won't be enough if we cannot have Internet freedom and/or everything is centralised. AWS is an ANTI-Free software platform. Clown computing is inherently an enemy of freedom; it's a retreat to mainframe era slavery (ICBM).

20:29 TR News; The EPO's staff union now has an "APP" for members. "Apps" generally suck, they typically spread personal data all over this place, but if this one helps coordinate and organise staff actions I suppose it is better than nothing. (n.b. it was announced TODAY)

20:32 TR News; "an open source approach to collecting telemetry data." Oh "telemetry" "data"... https://containerjournal.com/features/cisco-unfurls-observability-cloud-for-kubernetes-environments/

↺ https://containerjournal.com/features/cisco-unfurls-observability-cloud-for-kubernetes-environments/

20:32 TR Bot; Cisco Unfurls Observability Cloud for Kubernetes Environments - Container Journal

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20:45 TR News; Links 17/06/2022: David Revoy Dumps (K)ubuntu for Fedora | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/david-revoy-fedora/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/david-revoy-fedora/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/david-revoy-fedora/

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20:45 TR Bot; Links 17/06/2022: David Revoy Dumps (K)ubuntu for Fedora | Techrights

20:45 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166171

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20:45 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

20:46 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166172

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20:46 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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9 PM, June 17

21:15 DaemonFC; One of the problems with Intel's wifi/bluetooth firmware lately is that some of it survives a warm reboot.

21:15 DaemonFC; So you have to do a shutdown and then turn the computer back on to completely get rid of the old firmware.

21:16 DaemonFC; This can cause a lot of confusion if you dual boot between Windows and GNU/Linux, or try to reboot from Windows into a GNU/Linux installer, as it will appear that your WiFi and Bluetooth don't work, when in fact they will work if you do a cold shutdown first, before changing over.

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21:25 MinceR; 17 191845 < techrights-news> Red Hat does not recognise an enemy and instead advertises Microsoft proprietary software while hiring from Microsoft for management positions

21:25 MinceR; they're not enemies of each other

21:25 MinceR; they're enemies of the free world

21:25 MinceR; https://cloudblogs.microsoft.com/uploads/prod/sites/37/2016/04/Tshirts-2-1024x647.jpg

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21:25 DaemonFC; I remember going to Clifty Falls State Park in Indiana and staying at the park lodge back in the early 90s and laughing when I turned on the hotel information channel on the TV.

21:26 DaemonFC; "If you snuck your pets in, please sneak them back out."

21:27 DaemonFC; Mom was looking at apartments in her city and it's like looking for cars is now. Anything that's affordable is total crap.

21:28 matey; microZoft

21:29 MinceR; :>

21:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Speaking of vaccines, that's when Jewel Osco slips you a 20% off one grocery trip coupon (up to $20), so I set those aside and fill up the freezer again in January before the coupons expire, when I also get 5% back at the grocery store on my Discover card.

21:29 matey; its easier to understand ibm and microsoft when you think of them as the same company

21:29 DaemonFC; I did that this year and we still have plenty of meat in there to last for the rest of the year.

21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-16.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

21:30 MinceR; MICROS~1 certainly learned a lot from dehomag

21:31 DaemonFC; Two of us go in and get our flu shots and then I get $40 off $200 worth of meat and then another $8 from the credit card. You can stretch your money pretty far because they have crazy meat sales all the time.

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21:31 DaemonFC; YOu actually get a lot worse stuff at Walmart, AND pay more, but stay away from packaged food at Jewel.

21:31 DaemonFC; That's all higher.

21:31 schestowitz; "I opened port 22 on my router at home and left my RPi on so that I can

21:31 schestowitz; conneect to it while I'm at my parents'. Before doing this I setup npf

21:31 schestowitz; on NetBSD that is running on the RPi and also blacklistd to ban those

21:31 schestowitz; who try to log in multiple times." gopher://sdfeu.org:70/0/users/glaciurso/phlog/2022-06-17__70.md

21:32 schestowitz; matey: there was a microsoft-ibm ooxml-odf back room deal

21:32 schestowitz; but you would struggle to find any info on that

21:32 schestowitz; it was 2009 and 2010

21:32 schestowitz; earlier today I showed red hat pushing azure again

21:32 DaemonFC; The Pi Foundation... LOL

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21:32 DaemonFC; $20,000 from Microsoft.

21:32 DaemonFC; They got bought cheaply.

21:33 DaemonFC; Microsoft has no intention of helping fund a competitor. They want this to be the XO Laptop Part II.

21:33 TR News; HFNP: The project's not dead! I'm working hard gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/06/17-not-dead.gmi

↺ gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/06/17-not-dead.gmi

21:33 DaemonFC; The funny part is that they say oh here's free Windows for the Pi, and then it doesn't do anything of course, because it's ARM and Windows has no programs for ARM.

21:34 matey; MICROS~1 certainly learned a lot from dehomag <- of course it goes beyond imitation, but it certainly includes a lot of that

21:34 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/saturday-afternoon-random-randomness-6-4-22-15.jpg

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21:34 DaemonFC; They have a big chicken and the egg problem on their hands with ARM because they can't just dictate what people will write Windows programs for. It's never worked that way and it won't start now.

21:34 DaemonFC; The only value in Windows is it runs things that were there 10 or 15 years prior.

21:35 DaemonFC; Intel threatened a major lawsuit if they try to implement a compatibility layer that actually works fine.

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21:35 DaemonFC; I don't know how Apple got away with it. Maybe they pay Intel and force their customers to foot the bill.

21:36 matey; 1980s: ibm/microsoft

21:36 DaemonFC; There's no margin in a PC laptop to hide that in.

21:36 matey; 1990s/2000: gnu/linux

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21:36 matey; 2015/2022: ibm/microsoft

21:36 matey; good job, counterrevolution

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21:37 matey; pat yourself on the back, open source

21:42 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/wells-fargo-limits-online-credit-card-payments-from-non-wells-fargo-bank-accounts/

↺ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/wells-fargo-limits-online-credit-card-payments-from-non-wells-fargo-bank-accounts/

21:42 TR Bot; Wells Fargo limits online credit card payments from non-Wells Fargo bank accounts. BaronHK's Rants

21:43 DaemonFC; "If you try to make more than like 4 payments in a month online using a non-Wells Fargo bank account, they will refuse to accept the online payment until its a new month, and then say You can make further payments by calling them in over the phone to this number..

21:43 DaemonFC; Then you have to call a toll free number, tell it your Wells Fargo account number, and then tell it the bank account routing and account numbers you want to use to make the payment.

21:43 DaemonFC; Then it sends you a letter in the mail about the payment.

21:43 DaemonFC; Theres no fee, but it is a pain in the butt, which is the entire point, I think.

21:43 DaemonFC; The only reason I use this card is because it offers 2% back on all spending, which I use for non-category spending on my other cards.

21:43 DaemonFC; Maybe if you do 2 phone payments, they refuse that and demand that you send them a singing telegram, and then when youre out of singing telegrams, you have to use Morse Code, which would suck for anyone who wasnt an Eagle Scout, and then when youre out of those, you have to send them a notarized letter in Braille.

21:43 DaemonFC; "

21:46 DaemonFC; They changed the forecast again.

21:47 DaemonFC; It went from cool and pleasant tomorrow and for the next 8 days.

21:47 DaemonFC; To "It's going to be nice tomorrow, but then hotter than hell for at least 5 days after that.".

21:53 DaemonFC; They still play laundry games with you, schestowitz

21:53 DaemonFC; Most people dump way too much soap in.

21:54 schestowitz_TR2; we had no hot day after all

21:54 schestowitz_TR2; forecast was rubbish

21:54 DaemonFC; We don't go through detergent very fast because I don't play those games. Most people use a full size washer without reading that line 5 is meant for those gigantic industrial washers at the laundromats.

21:55 DaemonFC; So they just fill it to line 5 and dump it in there, and then it can backfire. Clothes and bedsheets come out smelling too strongly and dirt can get lifted and re-deposited somewhere else.

21:55 DaemonFC; For a full size washer, full, you're only supposed to fill it to line 3, which is about half of line 5, which is pretty deceptive really.

21:55 TR News; [Meme] Breaking the Law While Laughing at the Law | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/mortified-by-cynicism-of-crime/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/mortified-by-cynicism-of-crime/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/mortified-by-cynicism-of-crime/

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21:55 TR Bot; [Meme] Breaking the Law While Laughing at the Law | Techrights

21:56 DaemonFC; Then there's a line 1, which it says is for medium loads, which would be like half to 3/4s of a full sized washer full.

21:56 DaemonFC; But then people still dump line 5 in.

21:56 DaemonFC; Line 1 is like maybe a third of the capacity of the cup.

21:57 DaemonFC; Then there's these little portable mini washers, like what I have, where you have to have 3.2 full loads to equal 1 load on a full sized washer.

21:57 DaemonFC; And the laundry soap companies have no line for that one.

21:57 DaemonFC; So I just kind of guesstimate that you pour soap about to half of line 1, and that seems to work okay.

21:58 DaemonFC; The instructions that came with the machine said "Bubbles are fun! Until they're not... Please adjust how much laundry soap you use, and never use more than the amount for a medium sized load in a regular washing machine.

21:59 DaemonFC; I wonder how many people call the company panicking that the washer oversuds and there's bubble water all over their floor. :)

21:59 DaemonFC; After totally not reading this.

21:59 DaemonFC; So I have no doubt that if the landlords knew about these, they'd be in the lease under something that you're absolutely not allowed to have.


10 PM, June 17

22:01 DaemonFC; I've actually never seen a lease that says anything about these.

22:02 DaemonFC; So either they don't know they exist or they don't want you to know they exist, because if you read the lease you'd go "What are those? Oh, you mean I'm paying this dickhead $6 a load to wash and dry in machines that other people tossed shit and bedbugs into?".

22:03 DaemonFC; I figure that each year a household of two gets away with having one of these is about $480 in not having to go to the laundromat. The shit adds up fast.

22:03 DaemonFC; And that was last I looked. I'm sure the laundromat raised their price 20-30% like the car washes did!

22:04 DaemonFC; The landlords all swear up and down that the laundry isn't a profit center for them, but it is.

22:04 DaemonFC; So once you own one of these things and stop paying him to do the laundry, you can turn around and pay some of your rent in laundry money you don't pay him.

22:04 TR News; Canonical is 'doping' by propping up Microsoft, then wonders why so many Ubuntu users ditch for other distros https://ubuntu.com//blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-3-privilege-management

↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-3-privilege-management

22:04 TR Bot; Active Directory Integration features in Ubuntu 22.04 (part 3) Privilege Management | Ubuntu

22:05 DaemonFC; He spends no money at all maintaining those machines.

22:05 TR News; How far will they go? https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/wells-fargo-limits-online-credit-card-payments-from-non-wells-fargo-bank-accounts/

↺ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/17/wells-fargo-limits-online-credit-card-payments-from-non-wells-fargo-bank-accounts/

22:05 TR Bot; Wells Fargo limits online credit card payments from non-Wells Fargo bank accounts. BaronHK's Rants

22:05 DaemonFC; One of them hasn't worked at all since we've lived here, one of them spurts out bleach all over your clothes, and the one that doesn't do that doesn't drain properly and sounds like the washing machine is jumping up and down, and then leaves your clothes sopping wet.

22:06 DaemonFC; None of the dryers even get hot, so you have to run them forever, through more than one cycle, and pay for another one because there's no heat.

22:06 DaemonFC; It's pretty craptacular really.

22:06 DaemonFC; They're all completely shot or on their last leg.

22:07 DaemonFC; Then you have to share with the people who are bringing in roaches and bedbugs, tossing poop in them, and leaving used condoms in the bottom of the machine.

22:07 DaemonFC; And pay for this.

22:08 DaemonFC; I don't know how you even do that.

22:08 DaemonFC; I have never once taken off a condom and gone "You know what? I'm proud of this one. I'm keeping it. And tied it up and put it in my pocket.

22:08 TR News; "Scholarship in Social Media and Democracy"? Social Media and Democracy are complete opposites. https://citizenlab.ca/2022/06/vuyo-kwakweni-recipient-2022-reset-scholarship-social-media-democracy/

↺ https://citizenlab.ca/2022/06/vuyo-kwakweni-recipient-2022-reset-scholarship-social-media-democracy/

22:08 TR Bot; Vuyo Kwakweni Recipient of the 2022 Reset Scholarship in Social Media and Democracy - The Citizen Lab

22:10 TR News; Why does Lxer help MICROSOFT spread anti-Android FUD in GitHub, which is proprietary unlike AOSP? I think editorial mistake... http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/317126/index.html

↺ http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/317126/index.html

22:10 TR Bot; The Android kernel mitigations obstacle race

22:11 TR News; Microsoft is concern-trolling everybody to shoehorn its malicious moles. The organised crimes rely on such sinister tactics.

22:11 TR News; Microsoft is not a legitimate business. It's not even a business.

22:12 TR News; The Wine development release 7.11 is now available. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166173

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22:12 TR Bot; The Wine development release 7.11 is now available. | Tux Machines

22:14 TR News; 63: 3D Printers Are Printing Our Way To The Future - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-63/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux

↺ https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-63/

22:14 TR Bot; 3D Printers Are Printing Our Way To The Future - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital

22:19 TR News; This Week in GNOME: #48 Adaptive Calendar Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166174

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22:19 TR Bot; This Week in GNOME: #48 Adaptive Calendar | Tux Machines

22:24 DaemonFC; I hate landlords. A lot of them now pressure you to use a lot of proprietary software to apply in the first place, undergo a background check, pay for the background check, and pay your rent.

22:24 DaemonFC; https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52998

↺ https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52998

22:25 TR Bot; WineHQ Bugzilla Bug 52998 xaudio2_7:xaudio2 fails on Windows 1909+

22:25 DaemonFC; Nice. Looks like Microsoft was unsure if any real applications were using the legacy CLSIDs so they kept them around for a while.

22:25 DaemonFC; They can gather "telemetry" in the background to see if any Windows applications use them, without telling the user.

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; skip those

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; bad kland"lords"

22:26 DaemonFC; So they have a gigantic spy net watching every Windows user just to see if they start an application that uses something.

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; don't become their slave

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; they will abuse you more

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; if they want to spy on you before you even get started

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; if you were a good tennat beore

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; and you can demonsteate that

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; then that should be enough

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; and you can pay with cash or cheque

22:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Yeah, I try to avoid the corporate apartments.

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; no "apps"

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; if there is trust

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; give them desposit

22:27 DaemonFC; I got burned on one a long time before "apps".

22:27 DaemonFC; Different manager every week.

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: can you rpoof read with me?

22:27 DaemonFC; When they want to do something illegal, they just do it and dare you to say anything.

22:27 DaemonFC; They have lawyers on retainer because they have to evict people literally every week and they don't care if you hit a speed bump and can pay them next week.

22:28 DaemonFC; You miss the deadline and you're being evicted immediately along with the current batch,

22:28 DaemonFC; I never had that problem though.

22:28 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR2> DaemonFC: can you rpoof read with me?

22:28 DaemonFC; Yeah.

22:28 schestowitz_TR2; thanks, posted: http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/epo-compliance-epc/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/epo-compliance-epc/

22:28 TR Bot; For the Second Time in a Week the EPO Fakes Compliance With the European Patent Convention While Constantly Violating It | Techrights

22:28 DaemonFC; Usually here it's some greedy foreigner who lives in Chicago that sets up an LLC.

22:29 DaemonFC; Then they go buying up all the apartment complexes they can get their grubby little paws on.

22:31 DaemonFC; "imperial"

22:31 DaemonFC; imperil?

22:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I think I'm fixing to lose my good prescription coverage in about another 4-6 months. Who knows.

22:32 DaemonFC; I guess if I do, I'll just shift all my prescriptions to 90 day fills at Jewel-Osco and sign back up for GoodRX Gold to lock them into lower contractual prices.

22:32 DaemonFC; It's still going to be pretty painful.

22:33 DaemonFC; But CVS and Walgreens would charge 6-12x more for each one of my meds.

22:33 schestowitz_TR2; thanks, good spot1

22:33 TR News; For the Second Time in a Week the EPO Fakes Compliance With the European Patent Convention While Constantly Violating It | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/epo-compliance-epc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/epo-compliance-epc/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/epo-compliance-epc/

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22:36 TR News; Remembering and Honoring Marina Zhurakhinskaya, Founder of Outreachy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165969#comment-34048

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22:36 TR Bot; Mourning Marina Zhurakhinsakaya | Tux Machines

22:37 TR News; Old: "Marina is a senior software engineer at Red Hat and has been involved in free software development for quite some time. She shares with us her opinions about the importance of software freedom and how to get more women involved in the free software community." https://www.fsf.org/working-together/profiles/marina-zhurakhinskaya

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22:37 TR Bot; Marina Zhurakhinskaya Free Software Foundation Working together for free software

22:39 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166175

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22:39 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines

22:56 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1537907670186721281

↺ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1537907670186721281

22:56 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russian state TV discussed the capture of two Americans, Alexander Drueke & Andy Huynh, by Russian forces in Ukraine. Immediately after the clip of crying family members pleading for their lives, state TV host used mocking expressions meaning there's no chance they will be freed."|nitter

22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

22:59 DaemonFC; I finally vacuumed out the curtains in the window my longhair cat likes to hide in.

22:59 DaemonFC; Filled an entire canister.

22:59 DaemonFC; That might be one of the places she gets her tangles.


11 PM, June 17

23:00 DaemonFC; It's pretty hard to keep this place clean with that cat shedding everywhere.

23:00 DaemonFC; You go after one place in the house and then call it and there's like 3-4 more.

23:01 psydruid; Its midnight and people here are having some kind gathering outside in their garden, maybe they'll go on all night long

23:08 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-9-22-17.jpg

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23:26 DaemonFC; The XAudio2 fallout keeps unfolding, thankfully it's mostly settled down.

23:27 DaemonFC; Speaking of which, Fallout 4 GOTY Edition is perfectly playable on vanilla Wine recently with no external patches needed, on Fedora at least.

23:27 AdmFubar; only one longhair?

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23:59 DaemonFC; Yeah.

23:59 DaemonFC; So I have to have two vacuums now.

23:59 DaemonFC; I kept the old one just to get under the couch, coffee table, and bed.

23:59 DaemonFC; I got tired of having to disassemble it and yank cat hair out of the roller, so I got another one that has a self-cleaning roller.


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