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00:00 Helenah; starstreak: My genome is in research labs though.
00:00 reptilian_thrills; mick jagger too
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; well, they had to leave, MAGA 2024 was annexing places
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; to "denazify" Canda
00:00 reptilian_thrills; oh yes, the trucker convoy
00:00 reptilian_thrills; at least one of them was an actual trucker
00:00 starstreak; that convoy pissed me off
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; i'm not a trcuker, my name is just TUCKER
00:01 starstreak; i did find a good twitch stream covering many feeds at once
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; with rhotic R
00:01 starstreak; i was hoping to see cops beating up the trucker convoy but it almost never happened
00:01 reptilian_thrills; the cops were sympathetic
00:01 frog; in oasis linux, there is still lynx browser missing for example, i wouldn't have this anymore at least
00:02 reptilian_thrills; which is so stupid
00:02 starstreak; <reptilian_thrills> the cops were sympathetic <- exactly
00:02 frog; and the re-integration costs over there in oasis are high
00:02 reptilian_thrills; acab
00:02 frog; because both the packaging AND the build-system have to be re-written and tested
00:02 starstreak; if it was a left wing protest, cops would be beating people up all the time
00:03 reptilian_thrills; they were going through rubbish and food pantries trying to find somethign to eat
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; their sole contribution was, they helped the media tie "antivaxxers" and alt-right
00:03 reptilian_thrills; because walking into stores and restaurants with a mask on would defeat their whole message
00:03 reptilian_thrills; and the stores and restaurants would have none of this shit
00:04 frog; anyway, once GNU and whoever else settled their trans-homo-mysogonist problems there is alot of other problems to discuss
00:04 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: My red hair :3 https://files.catbox.moe/q53hwp.jpg
00:04 frog; inlcuding the linux kernel version rollback i consider mandatory
00:04 reptilian_thrills; they helped the media tie "antivaxxers" and alt-right <- i think that link was already established
00:04 reptilian_thrills; but you may be right about the media making it a thing
00:05 starstreak; i think its true
00:05 frog; schestowitz[TR]: what an armada of madmen is this who joined here recently? starstreak Helenah reptilian_thrills ?
00:05 frog; are those any people involved with any relevant free software development?
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: recent?
00:05 Helenah; frog: You calling me mad? o.O
00:05 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: No
00:05 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> reptilian_thrills: My red hair :3 https://files.catbox.moe/q53hwp.jpg <- how old are you?
00:06 Helenah; I haven't joined as of recently, I've been here a while now.
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; about 11000 nhs workers also turned down that AZ vaccine
00:06 Helenah; I don't even feel new anymore.
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; 110000
00:06 starstreak; I've been here a while too.
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; not 11000
00:06 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Why?
00:06 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: 28
00:07 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> reptilian_thrills: 28 <- ah ok
00:07 starstreak; <frog> are those any people involved with any relevant free software development? <- yeah, i develop MyBoobs
00:07 frog; Helenah: what would i know? you joined here, to complain about boobs and trans and whatnot.
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; I thought you were about the median age here
00:07 reptilian_thrills; some of your posts made you sound (much) older, ill have to adjust my picture now
00:07 Helenah; frog: What?
00:07 Helenah; That's confusing...
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; going by guesswork
00:07 Helenah; Why would I join a tech channel to complain about boobs and trans people?
00:08 Helenah; o.O
00:08 Helenah; That's... weird and unfounded...
00:08 frog; i thought this was a channel to talk about free software and and things
00:08 starstreak; I'm trans and I have boobs
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; frog: funny that you are the one complasining
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; after posting xenophobic things here
00:08 Helenah; frog: I got the impression not long after joining that people seem to talk about anything anyway.
00:09 Helenah; But I certainly joined here to talk about what the name suggests...
00:09 Helenah; It makes no sense to go into #banana to talk about pears, does it?
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; there is a communbity element
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; and the topic
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; I link to blogs of people who are here
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; even non-tech stuff
00:09 frog; schestowitz[TR]: i am not a transphob
00:09 frog; or gayophob or whatever
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; I said "xenophobic"
00:10 Helenah; Who called you a transphobe? o.O
00:10 frog; you're nazophob
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; no
00:10 Helenah; o.O
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; you're a naziphile
00:10 *Helenah is confused
00:10 starstreak; Helenah, frog is a literal nazi
00:11 frog; this is what you're saying, not me
00:11 frog; i want to remove GNU toolchain and GNU buildsystem only
00:11 Helenah; starstreak: Well someone on IRC got to meet my uncle
00:11 Helenah; and he called my uncle a nazi to which I said "100% agree with you" :D
00:11 TR News; "I've noticed an interesting trend on some of the blogs I follow. More of them - though by no means the majority - are including audio versions of the content." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/blog-to-speech/
00:11 Helenah; haha
00:11 TR Bot; Blog To Speech Terence Edens Blog
00:12 TR News; "The 300 bps modem requires a data/parity/stop configuration of 7 bits, 1 even parity bit, and 1 stop bit (7E1), so I had to add support to Subtext to allow configuring these settings rather than hard-coding the usual 8N1. I also had to set the modem's initialization string to use a Bell answer tone (ATB1)." https://jcs.org/2022/10/02/whisper_writer
00:12 TR Bot; BBSing at 300 Bits Per Second - joshua stein
00:13 starstreak; Helenah, lol
00:13 TR News; Its the same guy: the PR guy, the Murdoch scribe and the bouncer at the weapons fair! https://michaelwest.com.au/land-forces-2022-amda-pr-murdoch-scribe-and-bouncer-at-the-weapons-fair/
00:13 TR Bot; It's the same guy: the PR guy, the Murdoch scribe and the bouncer at the weapons fair! - Michael West
00:13 Helenah; I don't like most of my family nor do I love them, I am 0% compatible with them and it doesn't make me sad.
00:14 TR News; "But what should we do instead about illegal images of minors, and about violent online political extremism? More local policing would be better; we explain why. This is informed by our work on the link between violent extremism and misogyny, as well as our analysis of a similar proposal in the EU." https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/04/the-online-safety-bill-reboot-it-or-shoot-it/
00:14 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/04/the-online-safety-bill-reboot-it-or-shoot-it/ )
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: good for you
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes happiness comes from not trying to impress people who don;t deserve it
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; so you can get on with life
00:15 Helenah; I am happy :D
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; good
00:17 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: I know my blood type because my body itself told me it.
00:17 reptilian_thrills; my body itself told me it. <- how so?
00:17 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: The genome
00:17 reptilian_thrills; oh right
00:18 Helenah; I'm O negative
00:18 reptilian_thrills; like the band?
00:18 reptilian_thrills; that guy is actually b-positive and its such a scandal
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; genome3 sucks
00:19 reptilian_thrills; gee, gnome
00:19 Helenah; OB0 and RHAG genes
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 Helenah; AB0 sorry
00:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABO_blood_group_system
00:20 TR Bot; ABO blood group system - Wikipedia
00:20 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Yep
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_O_Negative
00:21 TR Bot; Type O Negative - Wikipedia
00:21 Helenah; I'll have to get you the data next time I'm at a more powerful machine.
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; im put my brain data online
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; almost 20 years ago
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; in dicom
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00:23 schestowitz[TR]; hi sonde
00:23 *psydruid likes Type O Negative
00:24 Helenah; dicom is the format of my imaging, schestowitz[TR]
00:24 Helenah; My main system has a dicom viewer installed.
00:25 reptilian_thrills; im not sure i understand this
00:25 Helenah; along with a load of genomic programs and a bunch of other stuff on there too.
00:25 reptilian_thrills; you sequence your own genome or something?
00:25 reptilian_thrills; youre a geneticist?
00:25 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: I requested a copy of my genome which had already been sequenced.
00:25 sonde; Hey schestowitz[TR]
00:25 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hi99dmvtfyew8.irc) has joined #techrights
00:26 DaemonFC; Okay, I just used Internet Explorer to add myself to the new insurance policies.
00:26 Helenah; o.O
00:26 DaemonFC; God....flashing text and everything. ActiveX.
00:26 Helenah; They use ActiveX in 2022?!
00:26 Helenah; I think you're telling lies like you always do.
00:27 DaemonFC; It's like you're initiating a nuclear missile launch.
00:27 reptilian_thrills; its called zurex now <- guessing
00:27 DaemonFC; I'd give you a screen shot.
00:27 Helenah; No
00:27 reptilian_thrills; azurex
00:27 DaemonFC; But it contains sensitive information.
00:27 Helenah; I've heard enough of your bullshit
00:27 Helenah; since I first came here
00:27 Helenah; That I don't even know what's truth and what's lies anymore.
00:27 Helenah; And that's on you.
00:27 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> That I don't even know what's truth and what's lies anymore. <- thats a major hazard here
00:28 Helenah; Ah
00:28 DaemonFC; This is the one part where Walmart's Web site needs Internet Explorer Mode.
00:28 DaemonFC; Is the beneficiary part.
00:28 Helenah; I don't believe you.
00:28 reptilian_thrills; you almost have to be columbo to make any sense of this place
00:28 Helenah; They used to own Asda
00:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You believe me, right?
00:28 Helenah; and Asda never required ActiveX anywhere on their website
00:29 DaemonFC; Internet Explorer Mode to access Beneficiary Online at Walmart.
00:29 frog; i am happily living with w3m browser for almost 1year, and before i had used only netsurf besides... didn't miss anything at all in 2years now
00:29 Helenah; So why would I believe you over a website I've experienced for myself?
00:29 reptilian_thrills; in fairness, if you aquire asda, you dont necessarily upgrade all their it stuff
00:29 reptilian_thrills; they might keep their old it for a while
00:29 frog; no activex, no advertisements, no videos, no annoyance, it's all gone
00:29 TR News; "On desktop, Pixel Wheels kind-of supported the XDG Base Directory spec in that it saved its config to $HOME/.config, data to $HOME/.local/share/pixelwheels and logs to $HOME/.cache/pixelwheels. But it did not support the XDG environment variables to override these directories. It does now." https://agateau.com/2022/09-update/
00:29 TR Bot; 2022 monthly update | agateau.com
00:30 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: It's just that I don't believe them and never can.
00:30 reptilian_thrills; who?
00:30 Helenah; I mean people are to be taken with a pinch of salt anyway.
00:30 Helenah; DaemonFC
00:30 reptilian_thrills; around here it takes more than a pinch
00:30 Helenah; but DaemonFC has said soo many conflicting and nonsensical sounding things that well.. ll
00:30 Helenah; lol
00:31 frog; it's just i am too tired currently, to move lynx browsers to oasis linux for example, and the many other tasks remaining
00:31 Helenah; I'd rather listen to say you or schestowitz[TR] or starstreak or whoever, I most likely won't be fed a load of crap that way.
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> They used to own Asda
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; used to?
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; did I miss something?
00:31 Helenah; I heard they sold it.
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; they tried to also buy sainsburys
00:31 frog; and my motivation is rather low, because i do know already, what is feasible and what isn't
00:31 reptilian_thrills; hey now you can go to asda :D
00:31 frog; because, without GNU toolchain, i couldn't compile any kernel anymore which supports any ARM system
00:32 Helenah; Supermarket food is low quality crap anyway
00:32 reptilian_thrills; I most likely won't be fed a load of crap that way. <- between the three of us youre definitely in for some interesting times...
00:32 *schestowitz[TR] checks
00:32 Helenah; vegetables that should last all year around go off within the fuckin' week...
00:32 Helenah; pathetic
00:32 frog; and then, i am vendor locked, again, against x86/64... and that's one big show-stopper, which keeps my motivation low
00:32 Helenah; I'd rather source from the local farms here around this village...
00:32 Helenah; Than get nasty old crap
00:32 DaemonFC; https://ibb.co/LCk0CRm
00:32 TR Bot; Screenshot-from-2022-10-15-18-29-48 ImgBB
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; "els. But it did not support the XDG environment variables "
00:33 DaemonFC; Walmart's Beneficiary Online site in Internet Explorer in VirtualBox.
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; "OwnerMohsin and Zuber Issa TDR Capital[6] Walmart ("equity" investment)"
00:33 DaemonFC; I had to get a copy of this from Microsoft to access this.
00:33 Helenah; DaemonFC: I know, I know, you said that like a dozen times!
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asda
00:33 TR Bot; Asda - Wikipedia
00:33 reptilian_thrills; xdg clan aint nothin to fuck with!
00:33 frog; why invest any more time and efforts into this?
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; "Walmart retains "an equity investment" in Asda, a seat on the board and "an ongoing commercial relationship".[11] The deal came after an acquisition by Sainsbury's was rejected by the Competition and Markets Authority.[12][6]'
00:33 reptilian_thrills; theyll take out your whole crew
00:33 DaemonFC; And VirtualBox didn't want to load in Fedora because they didn't install the most recent kernel-devel and kernel-headers.
00:33 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Wait, they didn't sell it? o.O
00:34 DaemonFC; So I had to pound those in from Koji using DNF, locally.
00:34 Helenah; Who the fuck told me that... told you there is too much lies around...
00:34 DaemonFC; Then install dkms and akmods and the akmod-virtualbox crap.
00:34 DaemonFC; Then reboot.
00:34 DaemonFC; Then the Windows 10 VM finally worked.
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohsin_and_Zuber_Issa
00:34 TR Bot; Mohsin and Zuber Issa - Wikipedia
00:34 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wuv4f-AmKE4
00:34 TR Bot; Thompson Twins - Lies - Invidious
00:34 DaemonFC; Why in God's name would I do that if I didn't have to?
00:34 Helenah; DaemonFC: Just boycott them!
00:35 DaemonFC; He works for them.
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/2021/02/16/issa-brothers-and-tdr-capital-complete-the-acquisition-of-asda-from-walmart
00:35 TR Bot; Issa Brothers and TDR Capital Complete the Acquisition of Asda from Walmart
00:35 Helenah; Who works for who? You were talking about insurance
00:35 DaemonFC; I have to manage his beneficiary stuff so if anything happens, I get the money instead of MARISOL.
00:35 Helenah; go with a different insurance company...
00:35 DaemonFC; Who won't spend it on his hospital bills.
00:35 Helenah; Oh
00:35 DaemonFC; They'd all go to France for a couple weeks on it and then it would be gone.
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; what's in france?
00:37 sonde; New wave films, cheese.
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; shoerack marisol is blopwing away borrowed moneyt o impress people, trying to make her jealous. trauma breaks feeble minds.
00:37 reptilian_thrills; trauma breaks all kinds of people roy
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; she grew up in tondo
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; parents died young
00:38 geert; nah not necessarily
00:38 geert; inability to deal trauma, more often
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; but mandy is at least functioning better
00:38 geert; i mean so meany people get trauma
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; if you don't open up the childhood
00:38 geert; who doesnt, more or less
00:38 Helenah; geert: It's not always possible deal it depending on severity.
00:38 geert; but many dont appear broken
00:38 DaemonFC; Dad out beating a dog to death in the backyard....
00:39 DaemonFC; Making all kinds of noises.
00:39 Helenah; People can end up with debilitating PSTD requiring a lot of professional help.
00:39 DaemonFC; Says, "Dinner!".
00:39 Helenah; *PTSD
00:39 geert; its not severity that define how properly trauma is dealt with
00:39 geert; thats ot the factor
00:39 DaemonFC; Their dad was also a pedophile.
00:39 geert; oof what a subject
00:39 Helenah; Oh not this...
00:39 DaemonFC; And they got kidnapped by another one from down the street.
00:39 Helenah; DaemonFC: DUDE STOP MAN!
00:39 Helenah; WTF
00:39 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> People can end up with debilitating PSTD requiring a lot of professional help. <- many of whom will receive very unprofessional help
00:39 Helenah; STFU
00:39 Helenah; with the pedo stuff...
00:40 geert; well lets not try shun the subject, better
00:40 Helenah; Damn it's trendy these days for people to cry rape and accuse others of pedophilia
00:40 geert; but its horrific subject
00:40 Helenah; DaemonFC: WTF is wrong with you?!
00:40 geert; not even b/c tenddencies of some
00:40 DaemonFC; The heart attack was the best thing that could have happened.
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: no, a true story
00:40 geert; but more the effects to victims
00:40 DaemonFC; I'm glad his dad is dead from what I've heard about him.
00:40 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: And how am I to believe that?!
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; the spouse of DaemonFC was molsted as a kid
00:40 DaemonFC; I'm sure there's more.
00:40 geert; well i dont thin we should shun the subject
00:40 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: And you know DaemonFC in real life?
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; no
00:41 geert; so no daemonfc im not gona try blame you for not tryna shun the subject
00:41 geert; still oof though
00:41 Helenah; Seriously it's a trend these days to cry rape and accuse people of pedophilia... I'm not joking!
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; he popsted a marriage cert online
00:41 geert; well it happens more often than many thing
00:41 geert; think*
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; pedophilia is a real problem
00:41 DaemonFC; Well, telling your kids to grab your dick and jerk you off when they're 4.....
00:41 DaemonFC; Is, uh.... What is that?
00:41 Helenah; It is a real problem but not when it is lied about, schestowitz[TR]
00:41 DaemonFC; Please tell me.
00:41 Helenah; instead the lies is the real problem
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; and it's not irrational to call out people who are convicted of it
00:42 Helenah; What?!
00:42 geert; offf thats very disgusted misbehavior
00:42 Helenah; Whose to say pedophiles don't have a condition?
00:42 geert; not like that
00:42 Helenah; Maybe they need help like other people with conditions
00:42 DaemonFC; They have a condition which can still be solved for less than one dollar.
00:42 geert; but its more the egoism bpart
00:42 DaemonFC; Even under Biden, a bullet is less than a dollar.
00:42 DaemonFC; And it's the only cure.
00:42 Helenah; Does society condemning them really encourage them to go seek that help?
00:42 Helenah; Nope, it shames them...
00:43 Helenah; Jesus fuck...
00:43 geert; if they like something they think they can decide for those who're not fit to decide
00:43 DaemonFC; A bullet to the head will totally cure pedophiles and make sure they don't re-offend.
00:43 DaemonFC; But we have liberals saying just throw them in county for a month.
00:43 DaemonFC; That'll help!
00:43 geert; its a egoism part, the lust happens pretty similar in many other occasions too
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: you once opened up as well
00:43 geert; thast not age confined
00:43 Helenah; geert: There are what's called "non-offending pedophiles"
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; and I don't have reasons to doubt those stories
00:43 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Really?
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00:43 schestowitz[TR]; even if it causes palpitation
00:43 Helenah; When did I open up about being a pedophile?
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; no
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; you said you had been reaped by 3 men
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; and I believe you
00:44 DaemonFC; If people ask me "Would you pull the trigger and execute a pedophile yourself if the law allowed for it?".
00:44 geert; Helenah; i dont say that, but they still shouldnt give in to it, where thge egoism stil kicks in so to sspeak
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; and the police did not even jail them
00:44 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Yeah and because DaemonFC has said unbelievable things a fuckton of times...
00:44 Helenah; I feel rape could be yet another one of their lies
00:44 DaemonFC; I say, "Yeah! As many as you want. Hand me the gun and keep 'em coming." if it were legal and that was their court ordered punishment.
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; tondo is not the uk
00:44 Helenah; and knowing it's a trend these days to cry rape...
00:44 Helenah; I'm pretty fucking upset after knowing what happened to me...
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; and some of the things that go on there are ... exceptional
00:44 DaemonFC; I don't have a big problem with executions for some kinds of people.
00:45 DaemonFC; I think they've forfeited their right to live when they do a thing like that.
00:45 DaemonFC; They're a bigger threat to society than what their right to live is worth.
00:45 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: You must understand where I'm coming from here...
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; the argument goes
00:45 geert; well i dont got problem with it, once very sure and practial application
00:45 geert; practical*
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; pedophiles cannot be cured
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; so some say,
00:45 Helenah; People use "rape" as a tool for attention...
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; remove their ****
00:45 geert; but i rather get them locked up
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; some say, execute
00:45 geert; liek some mass murders
00:45 geert; like*
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; or life in prison with hard labour
00:45 geert; murderers*
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: some people do
00:46 geert; yea i rasther dont get to kill under disguise of state
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; but we cannot generalise
00:46 DaemonFC; I don't say this mildly, but there's probably like 3-4 things which should lead to execution as the only punishment to make sure you don't get them in court again.
00:46 geert; its not difficult lock people up to their passing away
00:46 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: It can't be cured but my point is the sexual urge is treatable with GnRH agonists.
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's like saying some people use transphobia as a political schtick
00:46 geert; but better not for shit like weed
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; but that does not mean transphobia is a real thing
00:46 Helenah; ADHD can't be cured, Autism can't be cured, there are a lot of conditions which can't be cured
00:46 geert; gime sec i got about drink some beer today
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; *is NOT
00:46 Helenah; most of which are treatable
00:46 Helenah; which is different to curing
00:46 geert; and some you pop up with pedo and rape shit
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> ADHD can't be cured, Autism can't be cured, there are a lot of conditions which can't be cured
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; those ar emostly harmless to other people
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; mostly
00:47 DaemonFC; There's also a lot of things that I think should be automatically removed from your record either once your punishment is served or within a set number of years.
00:47 geert; problem with much 'cured' is that: one party wana cure the other
00:47 geert; but thats kind of like 'convicing another'
00:47 geert; convincing*
00:47 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: How is a non-offending pedophile who has their sexual urges under control harming others? IT FUCKING ISNT!
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; if Autism caused people to molest kids, we'd discuss Autism differently
00:47 Helenah; GET OFF THE FUCKING BANDWAGON OF PEOPLE SHAMING THEM!
00:47 geert; you cant. these people should wana get convinced themselves
00:47 Helenah; You're making me angry
00:47 DaemonFC; Minor crimes. Why should people havee to be punished forever with a record when their only punishment was a $1,500 court fine or something?
00:47 DaemonFC; I mean it's nuts.
00:47 geert; same with 'cure' especially mentally
00:47 geert; gime sec though i got about drink beer today
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> schestowitz[TR]: How is a non-offending pedophile who has their sexual urges under control harming others? IT FUCKING ISNT!
00:47 Helenah; I need a damn smoke...
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't advocate death senstence
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; but know some who do
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; and some were victims
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; second, this is about opffenders
00:48 MinceR; 15 223624 < Helenah> Cats shouldn't be on surfaces.
00:48 MinceR; flying cats!
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; not pedos but actual child rapists
00:48 Helenah; Death sentences mean innocent people get killed just by being accused of being guilty...
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; like drpizza, bill's pentester
00:48 Helenah; and later proven innocent after it's too late
00:48 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> 15 223624 < Helenah> Cats shouldn't be on surfaces. <- a cat surface?
00:49 reptilian_thrills; stowitz[TR]: How is a non-offending pedophile who has their sexual urges under control harming others? IT FUCKING ISNT!
00:49 Helenah; It doesn't matter how dangerous someone thinks someone else is, killing that person creates problems for the wrongly accused...
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: in the US the bar for death sentence is very high
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; in most states
00:49 DaemonFC; First Degree Murder, Rape of a minor, rape with threats of death or severe bodily harm, or actual death or severe bodily harm, and treason. Should all get the death penalty. Immediately.
00:49 reptilian_thrills; #techrights : 10/15/22 23:47 <- i think starstreak is the one to ask for a smoke here
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; not for the crime
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; but the certainty of guilt
00:49 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> in most state <- in texas they got rid of the death penalty for not tipping your hat to a lady
00:49 reptilian_thrills; in 2019
00:49 DaemonFC; We used to hang or electrocute people to death for less than what we know Trump did.
00:50 DaemonFC; The Rosenbergs were electrocuted side by side for spying for Russia.
00:50 reptilian_thrills; thats why you see everyone in texas wearing a hat
00:50 schestowitz[TR]; I'm against death sentence
00:50 reptilian_thrills; because you get in a whole heap a trouble if you dont have one
00:50 DaemonFC; This country has gone soft.
00:50 DaemonFC; And we're paying for that.
00:50 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Same for the reasons I said which are very valid and obvious.
00:50 Helenah; It was proven with history.
00:51 geert; MinceR :)
00:51 reptilian_thrills; historical proof is elusive to most people, who dont give a shit about history
00:51 reptilian_thrills; they shouldnt teach history in schools
00:52 geert; they will never be able chang the facts
00:52 geert; change*
00:52 Helenah; Also you need to be careful with who you define a "pedophile" because there are also hebephiles and ephebophiles which people automatically define as pedophiles.
00:52 geert; even if they appear smart
00:52 geert; at not just pon of history
00:52 geert; point of*
00:52 Helenah; But it is apparently in a clinical setting important to know the different
00:52 geert; NEVER!
00:52 Helenah; *difference
00:52 geert; they never gona be albe change th facts
00:52 geert; able*
00:52 Helenah; Because people are attracted to different age groups and just because someone is say attracted to teenagers, doesn't make them attracted to people younger.
00:53 Helenah; It's important for statistics and research.
00:53 whitenigga; i say off with those niggas heads
00:54 whitenigga; all the philes
00:54 Helenah; whitenigga: I say you're just being prejudice towards groups of people (pedophiles, hebephiles and ephebophiles), some of which are non-offending, some of which don't want to offend.
00:54 geert; atracktion is like perception effect
00:55 Helenah; You're putting attacks where they don't need to be.
00:55 geert; its suspectible to influence
00:55 geert; is that e4ven correct english
00:55 geert; MinceR you might get to try look the other way
00:55 geert; lel
00:56 geert; like hetero sexual, homosexual, paedoor efebo sexual
00:56 geert; perception
00:56 geert; not dna
00:56 starstreak; I had a boss that made lewd comments about young boys
00:56 geert; some try shocking
00:56 geert; not even sexual
00:56 Helenah; starstreak: Doesn't mean he'd touch one though.
00:56 geert; than they often want attention
00:57 Helenah; But it's room for concern.
00:57 starstreak; <Helenah> starstreak: Doesn't mean he'd touch one though. <- fair enough
00:57 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> But it's room for concern. <- also qualifies as workplace harassment
00:57 starstreak; <reptilian_thrills> <Helenah> But it's room for concern. <- also qualifies as workplace harassment <- thats why I sued him
00:57 geert; MinceR i didnt want get fight with you man talking @#$ about decoration
00:58 Helenah; Like depending on what someone says about young boys, I may advise they go talk to a professional about it.
00:58 geert; maybe you dont get ignore me :/
00:58 geert; yes?
00:58 reptilian_thrills; depending on what someone says about young boys, I may advise they go talk to a professional about it. <- depending on what someone considers a suit, i may advise they go talk to a professional about it
00:58 Helenah; Honestly I've read research papers on this.
00:59 geert; yea me too little bit
00:59 geert; its kind of depraved larger effects of egoism
00:59 geert; basically
00:59 reptilian_thrills; starstreak: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5IsSpAOD6K8
00:59 geert; even if seem sexual, often its not
00:59 TR Bot; Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video) - Invidious
00:59 MinceR; 15 225239 < phanes> who is "better" than everyone else? blonde haired, blue eyed aryans?
00:59 Helenah; There was also a study that tested how people condemned of "pedophilia" responded to different age groups, it was found some of them weren't even pedophiles but hebephiles or ephebophiles.
00:59 geert; however it might be expressed in sexual manner os to speak
00:59 geert; so*
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.21
00:59 MinceR; i doubt such aryans exist
01:00 geert; well maybe aryans exist but they not better
01:00 geert; and doubt dont change that fact
01:00 geert; MinceR!! :)
01:00 Helenah; and sometimes ephebophilia is socially acceptable.
01:00 Helenah; because the age group attraction is 15-19
01:01 Helenah; In the UK for example, you can legally date a 16 year old.
01:01 geert; thats more related to whats considered 'adult age'
01:01 Helenah; and you wouldn't have broke any laws.
01:01 Helenah; geert: Correct
01:01 Helenah; age of consent that is called
01:02 Helenah; the age of which the law says one is capable of consenting.
01:02 reptilian_thrills; they used to discriminate against gays by making the age of consent two years older for same-sex relationships
01:02 geert; which doesnt mean 'understood' consent
01:02 reptilian_thrills; in the uk
01:02 Helenah; geert: Agreed
01:02 reptilian_thrills; thats why the bronski beat album is titled "age of consent"
01:02 Helenah; the law can be flawed
01:02 geert; so often whats considered 'consensus' is rather not always understood
01:02 geert; meaning superficial would prefail above seriously consential legally
01:02 geert; very very flawed
01:03 Helenah; My gf got with me when I was 19, she's 20 years older.
01:03 geert; MinceR or maybe it was the 'old' and 'inflexible' wording
01:03 geert; MinceR did you get to consider it offensive?
01:03 geert; maybe?
01:03 Helenah; She's not an ephebophile though, she didn't date me because of my age.
01:03 Helenah; and we're 8 years strong now
01:04 geert; i thought efebophile is not prepubic but rather start of pubic era ofa person combined with someone whose considerd above 'adult age' i guess??
01:04 Helenah; 15-19, geert
01:04 Helenah; ephebophile
01:04 geert; efebo is 15-19 at point of age?
01:05 geert; hmmm ithink opinion might academically differ on that
01:05 Helenah; That's the age group the person has to have sexual attraction to in order to be classified as an ephebophile.
01:05 geert; well anyways consential should be as thorough as possible
01:05 Helenah; It's fact, not opinion... o.O
01:05 geert; and the more kid, the more thats impossible so to speak
01:05 geert; i didnt think it was that static
01:06 Helenah; It's medically defined...
01:06 geert; i though efebo was more referring to just after prepubic, start pubic development to adolescense regarding relation with above considered legally adult age?
01:06 geert; thought*
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01:06 geert; well i didnt get read too much papers about it
01:06 reptilian_thrills; its all greek to me
01:06 Helenah; "Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19."
01:06 Helenah; So generally
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01:07 Helenah; Basically these are chronophilias which are attractions to age groups.
01:07 geert; well consential is gona be flawed without sufficient development anyways
01:08 Helenah; Agreed
01:08 Helenah; But then...
01:08 geert; btw ima gtg in a bit
01:08 Helenah; people mature at different rates...
01:08 Helenah; While one 13 year old can't consent, another can.
01:08 TR News; "Vibrating pads placed on peoples arms can make the illusion of holding light or heavy objects in virtual reality more convincing by making us disregard some inputs from our senses." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2336381-sensory-trick-makes-objects-seem-heavy-or-light-in-virtual-reality/
01:08 Helenah; but it would be hard to prove such.
01:08 TR Bot; Sensory trick makes objects seem heavy or light in virtual reality | New Scientist
01:08 geert; well experienceget serios influence in that
01:08 geert; not really age
01:08 geert; more experience
01:08 Helenah; It would be hard to prove an individual is mature enough to consent to something.
01:08 geert; i think
01:09 Helenah; Well there are other things like...
01:09 Helenah; WWII
01:09 geert; well i tink if they kid like <16 y/o just generally assume they dont get enoug experience
01:09 Helenah; young girls were raped by soldiers
01:09 phanes; lol centos 8 stream OOB has broken fips mode, at least in london on linode
01:09 Helenah; They bled to death
01:09 Helenah; Why? Because their bodies were small
01:09 Helenah; and they were being penetrated
01:09 Helenah; also their vaginal opening hadn't opened
01:09 Helenah; and was forced open
01:10 TR News; "After I wrote about how Linux NFS clients normally only make one TCP connection to a given fileserver no matter how many NFS mounts they have, people pointed out the 'nconnect' for NFS mounts, as documented in nfs(5)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/NFSv3NConnectEffects
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01:10 Helenah; So there are things like this too
01:10 geert; french considered it tactis to algerian women while ago
01:10 geert; tactics*
01:10 geert; horrible stuff such things
01:10 geert; nayways ima get going
01:10 Helenah; I actually know someone who is attracted to kids btw
01:11 Helenah; And she's against having sex with them
01:11 Helenah; strongly against having sex with them
01:11 Helenah; but she's honest
01:11 Helenah; Why should she be condemned for a mere attraction?
01:11 Helenah; it's not hurting anyone else!
01:11 Helenah; Until she acts upon it
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; its's not what's criminalised
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; what's criminalised nis
01:11 geert; i think its different to admitting atrtacktion than giving into it
01:11 Helenah; I've known her for a decade now
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; 1) production of child pr0n
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; 2) consumptipn
01:11 schestowitz[TR]; 3) sharing
01:11 geert; i dont think other people get reason to fuck up ppl wo dont give in to it but are honest about it
01:12 Helenah; geert: My point is
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; 2 can lead to 3
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; and creates demand for 1
01:12 Helenah; society automatically likes to condemn her
01:12 Helenah; and has closed her up
01:12 schestowitz[TR]; and of course actually molesting/raping kids is a crime
01:12 Helenah; trying to shame her
01:12 geert; 'damage' or someting likewise is rather legal reason to address, not virtual perception
01:12 DaemonFC; I went ahead and got vision insurance this time around.
01:12 geert; but attracktion is relative, again, perception, so she 'is not' but 'wants to', for whatever peculiar reason
01:12 geert; that should be understood beter
01:12 Helenah; Society might be upping the child sex offender statistics.
01:12 DaemonFC; I figure I'm already paying as much as the premiums cost each year anyway getting our eyes examined.
01:12 geert; beter*
01:12 geert; better*
01:13 geert; ima get going, maybe ttyl :)
01:13 Helenah; via condemning people with such an urge
01:13 Helenah; shutting them down, closing them up
01:13 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> Society might be upping the child sex offender statistics.
01:13 Helenah; making them not want to seek any support
01:13 schestowitz[TR]; this seems plusable
01:13 schestowitz[TR]; as a kid we could walk freely in the streets
01:13 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I KNOW IT IS THE DAMN TRUTH!!!
01:13 Helenah; o.O
01:13 schestowitz[TR]; now even after schools they are paranoid about them walking in the street
01:13 DaemonFC; In some cases, padding it, yes.
01:13 geert; schwestowitz money pays egoism more than quality
01:13 schestowitz[TR]; and every asult is a presumed, suspect, by default pedo
01:13 schestowitz[TR]; with "hidden desire"
01:13 DaemonFC; They try to create victimless offenses, like consensual sex with a 16 year old or something.
01:13 geert; pedo violence is expression level of egoism
01:14 geert; so society sure stimulates pedo currently
01:14 schestowitz[TR]; and people of adult age cannot tell their friends their kids looks good
01:14 geert; paying ego more than quality
01:14 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: The hidden desire gets stronger as they can never vent it
01:14 schestowitz[TR]; because they would not be seen as a compliment
01:14 DaemonFC; Or prosecute teenagers for taking pictures of themselves and then intentionally distributing them.
01:14 geert; ima get going
01:14 *geert has quit (Quit: leaving)
01:14 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I've told people their kids look good.
01:14 Helenah; What's wrong with that?!
01:14 Helenah; o.O
01:14 Helenah; Now I'm confused...
01:14 Helenah; lol
01:14 DaemonFC; But we all know what the serious offenses are. The ones that are worthy of the death sentence.
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: you are female
01:15 DaemonFC; Back in the 1970s, if you had sex with a 16 year old probably not a hell of a lot ever came out of it if someone caught on.
01:15 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Are you sure you're in the UK?
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; it's more risky for adult men to say this
01:15 Helenah; Oh true
01:15 Helenah; Oh I didn't know...
01:15 DaemonFC; Like, you went to court and paid a fine, if that.
01:15 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> schestowitz[TR]: Are you sure you're in the UK <- german
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; because the presumption of pedophilia is more of a man stigma
01:15 DaemonFC; And life went on.
01:15 DaemonFC; Today, they will DESTROY you.
01:15 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Ah
01:15 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> because the presumption of pedophilia is more of a man stigma <- very true
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; also, maternal status
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; women give birth to kids
01:15 reptilian_thrills; women are caregivers
01:15 schestowitz[TR]; and they come out of... []
01:16 Helenah; Well that's wrong...
01:16 schestowitz[TR]; men are not as close to babies
01:16 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't nourish them
01:16 Helenah; a man should be allowed to compliment a parson about their children.
01:16 reptilian_thrills; and they come out of... [] <- to be fair ive never seen one as rectangular as that
01:16 reptilian_thrills; but maybe on a robot
01:16 Helenah; This is just unfair.
01:16 MinceR; 15 235100 < reptilian_thrills> its like if 1000 people shot a guy and you execute the one that drove the car
01:16 Helenah; I feel sorry for you guys.
01:16 MinceR; if the guy who drove the car also fired a shot
01:16 schestowitz[TR]; what this results in BTW
01:17 Helenah; You should be allowed to go to a childs mother and say "Your child looks gorgeous"
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; is that many menjust look away from kids
01:17 Helenah; :/
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; and won't even smile
01:17 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> if the guy who drove the car also fired a sho <- fair point but i was hopefully implying he didnt
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; because they know anything can be misinterpreted
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; in the 90s it was not like that
01:17 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> You should be allowed to go to a childs mother and say "Your child looks gorgeous" <- perhaps
01:17 reptilian_thrills; that IS a bit weird
01:17 reptilian_thrills; but heres the thing
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; men could hold up their friend's kid
01:17 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: That is not weird, I've done it myself.
01:17 reptilian_thrills; context is everything
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; without being presumed pedo
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; when a diver rescued many kids
01:17 schestowitz[TR]; elon musk called him "pedo guy"
01:18 reptilian_thrills; what society has done is thrown context out the window
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; I mean, why would anyone NOT pedo won't to rescue kids
01:18 Helenah; I've done it myself and I got smiled at and thanked and then the discussion about their child goes on.
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; sao society has gone off the deep end, pardon the pun
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; now I cannot look to kids
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; talk to kids
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; smile at kids
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; I just treat them like persona non-grata
01:18 reptilian_thrills; it might help that youre in the uk-- "gorgeous" in the uk might not be exactly the same as "gorgeous" in the states
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; even my nephews and neieces
01:18 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: If I had kids...
01:19 reptilian_thrills; for example, coffee might be "gorgeous" there
01:19 Helenah; and I got to know you irl for a while
01:19 reptilian_thrills; if you can say it about anything, that implies you can say it about a kid
01:19 Helenah; I wouldn't bat an eyelid at you complimenting about them
01:19 MinceR; 15 235835 < frog> is it necessary nowadays, to become a holy saint blessed by the pope, to participate with free software?
01:19 reptilian_thrills; whereas "gorgeous" is probably used in few
01:19 Helenah; I'm for condemn later, not before.
01:19 MinceR; if someone was blessed by the pope, chances are they're not a good person
01:19 reptilian_thrills; in fewer contexts in other places
01:19 reptilian_thrills; so it would stand out more
01:19 Helenah; Most men wouldn't mean anything sexual with their compliments
01:19 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> if someone was blessed by the pope, chances are they're not a good person <- or they have allergies :>
01:19 Helenah; and my children would be most likely alright
01:19 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: that was 90s
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; I remember the difference
01:20 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> Most men wouldn't mean anything sexual with their compliments <- it would be nice if people were less hypersensitive to compliments
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01:20 schestowitz[TR]; as a kid in the 80s
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; and adultish in 90s
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; kids could roam the streets
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; men were not presumed sick pedos
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; that changed when it was AOL/ASL era
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; and predtors came online
01:20 Helenah; I think I'm blinded because
01:20 Helenah; I don't really see men getting presumed sick pedos...
01:20 DaemonFC; Yeah, I told mom a child (15) was asking me a question on a Matrix chat about something innocuous and she said "Don't talk to a 15 year old! You're already trying to get an expungement over what happened in 2019 with that idiot, John!". I said, "There's nothing untoward and it's a group chat with hundreds of people.".
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; in the 90s as a teen I even chatted to some adult couples in the US
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; when talking to people over the Net was a thing
01:21 DaemonFC; She goes, "Doesn't matter. Never talk to kids.".
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; even strangers
01:21 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I'm blinded, aren't I?
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; the sigma deepens if you are bald, fat, or both
01:22 DaemonFC; "FREEZE ASSHOLE! Are you the one who helped this 15 year old with her English homework? You make me sick!"
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: maybe
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; you said you were 28
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; so you didn't see the 90s as a teen
01:22 Helenah; 00:22:05 schestowitz[TR] | the sigma deepens if you are bald, fat, or both
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; I know the difference
01:22 Helenah; Reminds me of people hating on Corbyn because he had wonky glasses...
01:22 reptilian_thrills; the sigma deepens if you are bald, fat, or both <- unattractive = creepy
01:22 Helenah; I mean liking or disliking his policies, yes
01:22 reptilian_thrills; of course creepy is also creepy
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
01:22 reptilian_thrills; creepy + unattractive = even more creepy
01:23 Helenah; but hating on him as a whole cause of his glasses? Dafuq!
01:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yeah, in the 90s you could go hang out with that old Army Vet down the street who was on his porch smoking a pipe.
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; looking bad means you are desperate and aim for defenseless kids, so goes the stigma
01:23 DaemonFC; Nobody cared.
01:23 MinceR; 16 001901 < Helenah> And doesn't the wake word not stop it from listening in?
01:23 DaemonFC; Today they'd be like "OMG! MOLESTER!!!!".
01:23 reptilian_thrills; unattractive is a factor of creepiness at least
01:23 MinceR; if it mishears a lot of things locally as wake words, it will send a lot of stuff home
01:23 Helenah; True, it's only AI afterall. :D
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; many things from the 80s and 90s that I looked back now COULD look like really dodgy
01:23 reptilian_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0
01:23 MinceR; and they could claim it's to make it more certain that it will listen when it needs to
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; but were not
01:23 TR Bot; The Creep (feat. Nicki Minaj & John Waters) - Invidious
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; like me babysitting kids when I was 14
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; neighbours' kids
01:24 DaemonFC; People weren't as paranoid back then.
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; mostyly watched snooker anyway
01:24 DaemonFC; I mean, if you found an actual creep, the judge would throw him away forever.
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; and was paid to just hang around
01:24 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Kids TV was creepy back then :D
01:24 DaemonFC; Now, they just throw them back out there and they rape some other kids.
01:24 DaemonFC; Over and over again,
01:25 Helenah; Watched rainbows where they all snuggle up to each other in the same bed?
01:25 DaemonFC; At least the Democrat judges in Illinois.
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; yes, kids sometimes have bad dreams
01:25 DaemonFC; A lot of it also has to do with what our piece of shit prosecutor wants.
01:25 MinceR; 16 002351 < Helenah> Pascal was developed by a woman if I remember correctly.
01:25 Helenah; and zippy would have her mouth zipped shut when she went on a chatterbox moment
01:25 MinceR; i thought niklaus wirth was male :>
01:25 Helenah; how creepy was that...
01:25 Helenah; MinceR: It was
01:25 Helenah; read further on
01:25 Helenah; I'd found that out
01:25 DaemonFC; He's only one of two out of 102 State's Attorneys in Illinois, a third of them are Democrats, who agrees with the SAFE-T Act.
01:26 Helenah; then I found it was cobol who Grace Hopper developed
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; I still remember, as a 14 or 15 year old, inspired by Baywatch BS, the kid asked me to kiss her (OF COURSE I DECLINED!)
01:26 DaemonFC; The police are not happy with it. One of them said that a cop could be tied up for 8 hours doing booking paperwork over one arrest.
01:26 DaemonFC; How does that work out in Chicago?
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; the kids watch shit like this on TV
01:26 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: The magic roundabout had drug references
01:26 MinceR; 16 002750 < DaemonFC> Someone activated mjg59_ earlier.
01:26 Helenah; ever soo subtle
01:26 MinceR; "Please don't deactivate me!"
01:26 Helenah; but now and again for now obvious reason, mushrooms would randomly pop up on the screen
01:27 DaemonFC; Please state the nature of the Social Justice Warrior emergency!
01:27 Helenah; *no
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; my name is matt, I calcel people like myself 20 yearsd younger
01:27 Helenah; ralph harris and orville the duck
01:27 Helenah; oh god
01:27 Helenah; I wish I could fly right up to the sky but I can't?
01:27 Helenah; And the duck was green...
01:27 Helenah; Dafuq
01:28 Helenah; Looked like a human baby too in feathers...
01:28 Helenah; lol
01:28 reptilian_thrills; And the duck was green... <- Dafuq <- i mean they have green ducks
01:28 Helenah; I wonder if that's how ralph liked his children to be.
01:28 reptilian_thrills; and the systemd logo
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; pacman
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; coming soon systemd-pacmand
01:29 schestowitz[TR]; a pacman game latched onto the giut repo of Microsoft LP
01:29 Helenah; I question if stuff like that twisted the minds of people like ralph causing them to develop an attraction to children that they would otherwise have never had.
01:29 Helenah; It seems to me that
01:29 Helenah; such people these kids TV presenters, develop a deep love for children
01:29 Helenah; that they probably otherwise didn't have...
01:29 Helenah; Which suggest the media needed a clean up.
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; you mean rolf
01:30 Helenah; Yep
01:30 Helenah; and the other kids TV presenters who also got condemned of pedophilia.
01:30 Helenah; He wasn't the only one working for the BBC.
01:30 phanes; lol when i google for fips mode on centos i get only my own blog article for a walkthrough
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; savile did worse
01:31 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: And he was also a kids TV presenter working for the BBC.
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; being around kids doens't turn you intoa pedo
01:31 Helenah; Something went on in the BBC
01:31 Helenah; it wasn't as simple as this, I'm telling you!
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; being a pedo causes you to look for jobs with many kidss around
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; church, sport coach..
01:31 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> Something went on in the BBC <- fishnchipsgate
01:31 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I wasn't meaning the being around kids bit
01:31 Helenah; But how kids TV was made to be
01:32 Helenah; There was something more in this...
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; easrlier on I gave an example, a gross example, of kids 'trying to 'seduce' adults
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; adults who are mentally health are NOT attarcted to kids
01:32 Helenah; Fred Talbot
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; *healthy
01:32 Helenah; "Save a little space in the middle of the bed for me"
01:33 Helenah; two teenagers either side
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; with parents that's different
01:33 Helenah; grammer school students
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; I used to sleep between my parents if I had nightmares
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; this is 1980s
01:33 starstreak; the 2017 power ranger movie is pretty good so far
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; or just to one parent
01:33 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Same
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; don't know if that's still considered OK
01:33 Helenah; It isn't
01:33 Helenah; because the kids are smaller
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; whoa
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; really?
01:33 Helenah; and apparently
01:33 Helenah; you can accidentally crush them in your sleep
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; danger of suffocation?
01:34 Helenah; causing suffocation and even broken bones
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; didn't know
01:34 Helenah; So it's considered unsafe.
01:34 Helenah; Yep
01:34 Helenah; People used to like sleeping with their babies
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; so parents can't 'discpline' kids
01:34 Helenah; It was causing deaths
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; cannot comfort them if they have bad dreams...
01:34 Helenah; No, they can.
01:34 Helenah; but not in that way
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; to kids, physical proximity to a parent is important
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; so what do parents do now?
01:34 Helenah; Agreed
01:34 Helenah; and most likely nothing would happen.
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; also, regarding discipling, I heard they lock them up in rooms
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; that's mental abuse
01:35 Helenah; Like you're not mean't to swaddle a baby either
01:35 Helenah; because it can cause cot death.
01:35 Helenah; but people always did it
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; when I gre older and helped with a small baby they had gadgets
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; like babysense and stuff
01:35 Helenah; Yes, isolation is mental abuse.
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; all the stuff we as kids did not have
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; they making parenting so much harder
01:36 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I was bathed in the kitchen sink :D
01:36 Helenah; and now people have these posh baby bathes
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; consumerism
01:36 Helenah; I was also nappy changed on a basic matt, anything suitable.
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; you can use a sink in the toilets
01:36 Helenah; Now though? They have a posh gadget for changing a baby.
01:36 schestowitz[TR]; or some plastic laundry thing inside the bathtub
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; nothign specific to a baby
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; or keep the water shallow in the bath
01:37 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> so what do parents do now? <- the most obvious solution is to put the crib next to the parents bed
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; seems like parenting got a whole lot worse than I realised
01:37 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Yep
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; as we chose never to have kids
01:37 reptilian_thrills; or for an older kid, let them sleep in a small bed next to the other bed
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; crib next to bed?
01:37 schestowitz[TR]; for 6 year olds?
01:38 Helenah; OH
01:38 reptilian_thrills; i just answered that
01:38 Helenah; I was weirded out
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; some kids need that proximity at even age 10
01:38 Helenah; when i saw this toddler in this special bed
01:38 Helenah; like WTF
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; I think I stopped around age 2 or 3
01:38 reptilian_thrills; i think a 10 year old would survive
01:38 Helenah; when I was his age, I was in a normal single bed...
01:38 Helenah; But he had these posh bars that stop him doing a roly poly out of the bed in his sleep
01:38 reptilian_thrills; helenah, at what age do you figure this hazard is over
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; use carpets
01:39 reptilian_thrills; realising of course its about size and not age
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; not perfect, b ut life isn't 100% risk-free
01:39 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Anyone can roly poly out the bed though
01:39 Helenah; I did it believe it or not when I was 21
01:39 Helenah; once
01:39 Helenah; Did I have bars to stop me? No I didn't!
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; carpets help
01:39 Helenah; lol
01:39 Helenah; the floor is laminate but I didn't hit it
01:39 Helenah; instead the blanket was under my knees
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; i knew someone adult who hurt his head that way
01:40 Helenah; Another thing...
01:40 Helenah; and I'm not sure why but
01:40 MinceR; 16 021710 < reptilian_thrills> <MinceR> if the guy who drove the car also fired a sho <- fair point but i was hopefully implying he didnt
01:40 Helenah; If I sleep in a new or strange bed...
01:40 MinceR; he did sign the letter, though
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; but like cats we don't fall head first because the body realised wehat's going on
01:40 Helenah; I urinate in my sleep
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; and you snap
01:40 Helenah; first night in the bed
01:40 Helenah; It always happens
01:40 MinceR; in a very prominent position at that
01:40 Helenah; we dread getting a new bed knowing the first night I would've wet it
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01:41 schestowitz[TR]; new mattresses come with plastic
01:41 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: They do?
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
01:41 Helenah; Really?
01:41 Helenah; Mine didn't...
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01:41 Helenah; o.o
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; we left ours on for months just fir the "new product" feeling
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01:41 schestowitz[TR]; like many dow ith cars
01:41 schestowitz[TR]; those too have plastic on the chairs typically
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; or gadgets
01:42 Helenah; hmm
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; one of my screens and one laptop still have some plastics on
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; rianne insists I keep them on
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; they're over 5 years old
01:42 reptilian_thrills; rianne insists I keep them on <- ?????
01:42 Helenah; You want to know what I find weird?
01:43 reptilian_thrills; what on earth for
01:43 Helenah; How does doing a wrist test with water guarantee it won't burn another part of the baby's body?
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; she keps the plastic on her laptop speakers for years :-)
01:43 reptilian_thrills; its not a guarantee
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; *kept
01:43 Helenah; For one water feels hot on the head even if it's luke warm on the hands and wrists
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; but she didn't use them for playbakc much anyway
01:43 Helenah; I know for a fact when I'm having my wash downs
01:43 reptilian_thrills; but it will probably catch most instances of too-hot water
01:43 Helenah; I go to wash my hair and OUCH IT FUCKING BURNS!
01:43 Helenah; but it didn't burn my hands
01:43 reptilian_thrills; what are the odds of it being too hot for a baby but not too hot for your wrist?
01:44 reptilian_thrills; MOST temps too high for the baby will feel uncomfortable to wrist
01:44 reptilian_thrills; its not a perfect test but im sure it helps
01:44 Helenah; But what about the baby's head?
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; next generation: you must buy theremeter for water
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; pink for baby girld
01:44 Helenah; Someone actually thinks I was dropped as a baby LOL
01:44 reptilian_thrills; so put it on your head instead
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; blue for baby boty
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; and measure water tempreature
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; anything else is "child abuse"
01:44 schestowitz[TR]; and "bad parenting" (the state would tkaen the kids away)
01:45 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> Someone actually thinks I was dropped as a baby LOL <- im not sure this is due to injury
01:45 reptilian_thrills; you may be naturally like this
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; *thermometer
01:45 Helenah; Because of this where the green circle is https://files.catbox.moe/9g6tar.jpg
01:45 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> *thermomete <- all baby bottles must come with a backup camera
01:46 reptilian_thrills; to make sure no one gets run over in the carpark
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; and a microphone
01:46 Helenah; I have what looks like my skull didn't fuse
01:46 Helenah; and I can even feel it... o.O
01:46 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> and a microphone <- self driving bottles
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; lidar
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; (waste of energy)
01:46 reptilian_thrills; secure bottle
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; and distracts some drivers
01:47 reptilian_thrills; if you try to put anything but microsoft-approved formula it does a great impression of a keurig
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; you will starve to death of the md5sum does not match
01:47 Helenah; So about the crack on my head... o.o https://files.catbox.moe/9g6tar.jpg
01:47 schestowitz[TR]; they will call it food security
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; security... meanin the opposite
01:48 reptilian_thrills; but you can change the keys yourself, you just need to reprogram the nand chip and void the warranty
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; like machine of yourse that refuses to boot for you
01:48 Helenah; Put the car radio into the freezer and no longer will you need a code :D
01:48 reptilian_thrills; Put the car radio into the freezer and no longer will you need a code <- put the baby bottle in the microwave
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; if it is still detachable
01:48 reptilian_thrills; not to warm it, but to keep it from getting calls
01:48 schestowitz[TR]; I've not driven in a while, do cars still let you remove the radio etc?
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; of the radio still sa separet unit?
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; or built into the dashboard?
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; i know it's not "radio"
01:49 reptilian_thrills; do cars still let you remove the radio etc? <- if worse comes to worse you could find a guy to steal it for you
01:49 schestowitz[TR]; but the whatever they have for media functionality
01:49 reptilian_thrills; drive around tottenham im sure youll find someone
01:50 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> or built into the dashboard <- card-radiod
01:50 reptilian_thrills; i think it depends on the model of the car
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; they "digitise" a lot
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; it would cost a fortune to repair
01:50 schestowitz[TR]; "Sorry, we have to replace the whole [x]"
01:51 reptilian_thrills; car
01:51 reptilian_thrills; :>
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.npr.org/2022/02/14/1080548535/seattle-mazda-drivers-cant-change-the-radio-dial-its-stuck-on-kuow
01:51 reptilian_thrills; my bluetooth is out "sorry, its totaled"
01:51 TR Bot; Seattle Mazda drivers can't change the radio dial. It's stuck on KUOW : NPR
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.pcmag.com/news/mazda-drivers-in-seattle-can-only-listen-to-public-radio-dealerships-blame
01:51 TR Bot; Drivers in Seattle Can Only Listen to Public Radio, Dealerships Blame 5G | PCMag
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/9/22925619/mazda-head-units-bricked-npr-seattle-need-ota-updates
01:51 TR Bot; Mazdas in Seattle cant tune away from local NPR station - The Verge
01:51 reptilian_thrills; the push to start button broke, time to get a new car
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; lol
01:51 Helenah; There is also this bump on the head look https://files.catbox.moe/r5u52d.jpg
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; new dashboard at least
01:51 reptilian_thrills; they used to joke about if microsoft made cars-- now we know they were right
01:52 schestowitz[TR]; when the supply chain woes settle
01:52 Helenah; Now I look at MRI imagery of other people, their heads are smooth, nothing like this...
01:52 Helenah; o.O
01:52 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> There is also this bump on the head look https://files.catbox.moe/r5u52d.jpg <- roy is a certified phrenologist
01:52 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Wait, whose roy?
01:52 schestowitz[TR]; hi
01:52 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]
01:53 reptilian_thrills; roy is a certified phrenologist <- this is a joke of course
01:53 Helenah; Okies
01:53 reptilian_thrills; is like saying he has a prd (doctor of palmistry)
01:53 TR News; Microsoft at LF https://www.streetinsider.com/PRNewswire/The+Linux+Foundation+and+Fintech+Open+Source+Foundation+Announce+the+Conference+Schedule+for+Open+Source+in+Finance+Forum+New+York+2022/20700613.html
01:53 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation and Fintech Open Source Foundation Announce the Conference Schedule for Open Source in Finance Forum New York 2022
01:54 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zih4MH_hMV4
01:54 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=zih4MH_hMV4
01:54 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | How many lumps do you want - Invidious
01:54 Helenah; So what is schestowitz[TR] qualified in?
01:54 reptilian_thrills; witch kind of doctorate do you have?
01:54 Helenah; :3
01:54 reptilian_thrills; i think phrenology is the study of head shapes-- but its pseudoscience, no doctorate in it
01:54 reptilian_thrills; nazis loved it, so do incels
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; witchcraft
01:55 reptilian_thrills; it ought to be the study of phrens, but noooooooo
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; bruce phrens
01:55 reptilian_thrills; well no one told you life was gonna be this way *clapclapclapclapc*
01:55 reptilian_thrills; i get by with a little help from my phrens
01:56 TR News; In 1984, COLONIALISM is "humanity for others" :) https://qz.com/google-s-africa-investments-hinge-on-ubuntu-1849625571
01:56 TR Bot; Googles Africa investments hinge on the spirit of Ubuntu
01:57 schestowitz[TR]; go sleep with the perens if you have bad dreams
01:58 schestowitz[TR]; kids <3 sleeping with perens
01:58 MinceR; if you can't get that, you can try sleeping with parens
01:58 schestowitz[TR]; 2022 family bond: "mom, buy me the SMARTPHONE!"
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.98
01:59 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cR1Mq6Po3pA
01:59 TR Bot; SPOILT GIRL SCREAMS AT HER GRANDPA OVER IPHONE APPOINTMENT - Invidious
02:00 schestowitz[TR]; gee, can't wait to have kids!!
02:00 schestowitz[TR]; like "mr. empty pockets" al bundy
02:01 Helenah; Phrenology was actually disproved for once where as previously it was simply disused. Here you go! https://theconversation.com/neuroscientists-put-the-dubious-theory-of-phrenology-through-rigorous-testing-for-the-first-time-88291
02:01 TR Bot; Neuroscientists put the dubious theory of 'phrenology' through rigorous testing for the first time
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; "dad, give me gifts"
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; "dad, I need money"
02:01 schestowitz[TR]; "dad, die already so I get your money"
02:01 Helenah; So it's cool that such scientists this day and age played around with phrenology against modern knowledge and technology to prove/disprove it. :D
02:02 Helenah; It shows like how much of the knowledge of phrenologists was true and how much of it was false, it sounds very turbulent. :D
02:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Stallone
02:02 TR Bot; Jackie Stallone - Wikipedia
02:03 schestowitz[TR]; astrology
02:03 schestowitz[TR]; and belie about feet being the cantral point of the system iirc
02:03 schestowitz[TR]; *belief
02:03 Helenah; A friend of mine thinks he has Greek in him based on his hands, feet and scalp. lol
02:03 Helenah; I thought he was quackers.
02:04 Helenah; but didn't say that! :D
02:04 Helenah; I allowed him to enjoy his fantasy of being party or fully Greek.
02:04 Helenah; *partly
02:05 schestowitz[TR]; looking for info on her superstititons
02:05 schestowitz[TR]; other than the astro'log'y
02:06 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: https://searx.be/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQNVLwT9FS3UkMRsUdVGwDj6rJOfoVsuqSfqHuqOlFCPVyftCsm%26s&h=0b6a658decaa1e748e9bd197d8c3fda468246c9b0afa02b8e1732d49a252246d
02:06 Helenah; Does the link have to be soo big that it's now a nightmare for me to open it?
02:06 Helenah; TinyURL it please.
02:06 Helenah; Otherwise I'm doing a series of copy pasting to re-construct the URL...
02:06 Helenah; Retarded search engine...
02:07 Helenah; Google does the same shit...
02:07 Helenah; And DuckDuckGo does too
02:07 Helenah; Creates these silly long URLs...
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; searx is safer
02:07 Helenah; It's still creating pathetic URL lengths though...
02:07 Helenah; o.O
02:07 schestowitz[TR]; but it pulls it from gstatic
02:07 starstreak; you're not missing much, its a super tiny image that you can't read
02:08 Helenah; Plus TinyURL it...
02:08 Helenah; Oh
02:08 Helenah; I'm in a terminal and a tiny one too and nothing I can do about that...
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; classifying race by toe lengths and arrangements
02:08 schestowitz[TR]; i saw that years ago
02:09 schestowitz[TR]; that;s like telling ethnicity by cheekbones or ear shape
02:09 Helenah; The only one with more promising research behind it is the digit ratios.
02:09 Helenah; and even that could change in years to come.
02:09 Helenah; You can't rely classify someone as a race considering everyone on the damn planet is mixed race.
02:10 Helenah; *really
02:10 Helenah; You might be able to tell someone they got roman toes but they more be majorly something else overall.
02:10 Helenah; *might
02:10 TR News; ESP32 dev kit includes touchscreen and optional thermal imaging <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Linux Gizmos" href="https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-dev-kit-includes-touchscreen-and-optional-thermal-imaging/">Read on</a>
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02:11 Helenah; "ah yes, looks like a tumor", please tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.... :D
02:11 Helenah; That would be a second tumour!
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: they work backwards
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; you are greek, feet are like this
02:11 schestowitz[TR]; and statues also
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; so they saw, show me your feet, I will tell you who you are
02:12 MinceR; 16 031132 < Helenah> "ah yes, looks like a tumor", please tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.... :D
02:12 schestowitz[TR]; like doing the finger test to assess penic size
02:12 MinceR; it's not a tumah! it's not a tumah, at all!
02:13 Helenah; MinceR: Yeah I kinda have doubts it's a tumour...
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; cyst maybe
02:13 Helenah; Yeah but...
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; what is a cyst compared to a tumour anyway\?
02:13 Helenah; Now this is another condition on my damn long list...
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; one small? one does not grow anymore?
02:13 schestowitz[TR]; not sure, but seems like semantics
02:14 Helenah; Well a cyst is pocket of fluid
02:14 Helenah; *a
02:14 Helenah; A blister could be considered a cyst
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; oh
02:14 schestowitz[TR]; but external to the skin?
02:14 Helenah; a tumour is a neoplasm
02:14 Helenah; An abnormal mass of tissue that forms when cells grow and divide more than they should or do not die when they should.
02:14 MinceR; neoplasm is not to be confused with pleonasm
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; plasm4
02:15 Helenah; MinceR: Not confusing anyway.
02:15 Helenah; *anything
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; killlall plasm-shell
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; *cell
02:15 Helenah; o.O
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; right
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; -9
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, time for bed, I'm tired
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; not gonna sleep with my mom and dad
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; they weight a ton each
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; but I'm not afair
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; *afraid
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; I'll wear a halmet
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; gn
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; *helmet * weigh
02:19 Helenah; schestowitz[TR], MinceR, reptilian_thrills, Tumour of the cranium https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs00381-018-3937-0/MediaObjects/381_2018_3937_Fig1_HTML.png
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02:37 reptilian_thrills; it makes plenty of sense really, but i was hoping ##coffeeshop and #deletegithub were a little closer to say, #techpol in makeup
02:37 reptilian_thrills; and by #techpol in makeup, i mean run by xrevan, only FABULOUS
02:38 reptilian_thrills; i mean a mix of owners and guests really
02:38 reptilian_thrills; i ran :list for the first time and there are a bunch of channels
02:38 reptilian_thrills; but theyre obviously mostly-- actually i cant guess
02:41 frog; reading still, how cutting cables of two mobile radio station towers caused a _global_ outage of german railway in entire northern germany, last weekend
02:42 frog; the public reporting about this, seems rubbish mostly
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02:43 frog; because it was supposedly two locations were cables were cut in half, at a distance of 500miles
02:44 frog; without doubt if the severed cables had connected radio station towers of railway signalling, then this had cause two _local_ outages, NOT a global one
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02:44 frog; and too i was reading, GSM-R is designed for redundancy and failover, nonetheless none of this had prevented neither a local outage, leave alone a global outage
02:45 reptilian_thrills; i killed the channel
02:45 reptilian_thrills; i dont know how
02:45 reptilian_thrills; it was an accident
02:45 starstreak; did you crash my irc client?
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02:45 reptilian_thrills; definitely not
02:45 reptilian_thrills; this isnt the 90s, and im not a script kiddie
02:45 reptilian_thrills; also youre fucking with me, right?
02:46 starstreak; no, i noticed hexchat wasn't running
02:46 starstreak; i don't remember closing it
02:46 reptilian_thrills; i saw you leave
02:46 reptilian_thrills; yeah but i also didnt ddos roy
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02:46 reptilian_thrills; and i probably didnt write nimda
02:46 reptilian_thrills; and im not kevin mitnick
02:47 starstreak; nimda lol, i had that one back in the day
02:47 starstreak; one of the few viruses i've had
02:47 reptilian_thrills; i took antibiotics around the same time so idk
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02:47 reptilian_thrills; i had a boot sector virus
02:48 reptilian_thrills; john mcaffee killed it
02:48 reptilian_thrills; with his gun
02:48 starstreak; john mcaffee <3
02:48 reptilian_thrills; you just like bad boys
02:48 Helenah; Are men not supposed to nurture?
02:48 starstreak; apparently
02:48 Helenah; Why not?
02:48 reptilian_thrills; Are men not supposed to nurture? Are men not supposed to nurture? <- not if they want to get laid
02:49 reptilian_thrills; MOST people-- NOT all, look to men for certain-- expectations, like starstreak has of them
02:49 reptilian_thrills; and they look to women for something different-- to the point where it can get comical
02:49 reptilian_thrills; by comical, i mean read "trashing" by jo freeman
02:49 starstreak; im like 90% lesbian and 10% straight
02:49 reptilian_thrills; thankfully not everyone has conventional expectations
02:50 reptilian_thrills; but by definition, most people do
02:50 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> im like 90% lesbian and 10% straight <- 90% awesome and 10% also awesome
02:50 Helenah; So it's mere expectation and not even defined by nature.
02:50 Helenah; social construction
02:50 Helenah; What if it's in human nature to create social constructs though?
02:50 reptilian_thrills; So it's mere expectation and not even defined by natur <- had to say how much of a role nature plays here. i mean, in indiginous communities it varies more
02:50 Helenah; hence why it happened?
02:50 starstreak; john mcaffee is definately high up on the hot/crazy scale
02:51 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> social construction <- i believe some of it is construction absolutely
02:51 Helenah; Well that's why the "what if" question came in, reptilian_thrills
02:51 reptilian_thrills; yeah i may miss a few characters here and there
02:51 Helenah; hmm
02:51 reptilian_thrills; my gf used to identify as lesbian
02:51 Helenah; I was expected to have surgeries as a baby o.o
02:52 Helenah; My mother rejected it
02:52 starstreak; John McAfee, Justin Beiber, Roy, etc all sexy.
02:52 reptilian_thrills; I was expected to have surgeries as a baby <- im really curious but i dont want to pry
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02:52 reptilian_thrills; John McAfee, Justin Beiber, Roy, etc all sexy. <- guess if those are the choices id have to fuck john mcaffee
02:52 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: ambiguous genitalia.
02:52 reptilian_thrills; at least he helped me with a computer problem 20 years ago
02:52 starstreak; lol
02:52 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> reptilian_thrills: ambiguous genitalia. <- COOL!
02:52 reptilian_thrills; um
02:52 reptilian_thrills; no worries
02:53 starstreak; Justin Beiber is so dreamy
02:53 reptilian_thrills; My mother rejected it <- but you dont relate to her at all?
02:53 reptilian_thrills; i mean i can relate, my mother was switched at birth.
02:53 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/45,X/46,XY_mosaicism
02:53 TR Bot; 45,X/46,XY mosaicism - Wikipedia
02:54 Helenah; I'm happy she rejected it
02:54 reptilian_thrills; yeah its cool that she rejected it
02:54 reptilian_thrills; switched at birth <- my birth
02:54 Helenah; the doctors were wanting to unnecessarily how they put it "correct" something which should have been my choice and not a matter of urgency.
02:54 reptilian_thrills; which should have been my choice and not a matter of urgenc <- we are on the same page with this, but because of your mother you DO have that choice, yes?
02:55 reptilian_thrills; which is good
02:55 Helenah; I do
02:55 reptilian_thrills; awesome
02:55 Helenah; and I don't want anything doing.
02:55 reptilian_thrills; i think previous generations meant well of course-- but as they say, "yikes"
02:55 reptilian_thrills; and I don't want anything doing <- i can relate to that too, i dont want anything done
02:58 Helenah; I'm probably medically classified as transgender but I don't feel like I am... o.o
02:58 Helenah; How can I be that unless I transitioned...
02:58 reptilian_thrills; i think transgender is too personal for the medical community to have a LOT of say on it
02:59 Helenah; Which I didn't...
02:59 reptilian_thrills; How can I be that unless I transitioned... <- that parts easy
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.23
02:59 reptilian_thrills; trangender isnt only about surgery and hormones
02:59 reptilian_thrills; sometimes it is
03:00 Helenah; I'm not on HRT, reptilian_thrills
03:00 reptilian_thrills; eddie izzard says hes trans and still uses the same pronouns
03:00 reptilian_thrills; i love eddie izzard, im not gonna argue
03:00 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> I'm not on HRT, reptilian_thrills <- no i wasnt implying you were
03:00 reptilian_thrills; i was saying that transgender isnt only about hrt and surgery
03:01 reptilian_thrills; also im not saying youre trans-- i think thats more about YOUR feelings than anything els
03:01 Helenah; hmm
03:01 reptilian_thrills; its like how im i gonna tell someone theyre gay
03:01 Helenah; I feel like I'm cisgender.
03:01 reptilian_thrills; or straight
03:01 reptilian_thrills; I feel like I'm cisgender <- works for me
03:02 reptilian_thrills; i think ultimately youre the most qualified person to know this
03:02 reptilian_thrills; maybe someone can lend you a hand with it but its really up to you (imo)
03:02 reptilian_thrills; id joke about demanding that its up to you but sometimes i confuse people that way
03:03 Helenah; lol
03:11 *Helenah hugs reptilian_thrills
03:11 Helenah; I erm...
03:11 Helenah; I misunderstood you at first and was very wrong
03:11 reptilian_thrills; no im totally a mixed bag and youll probably hate me sooner or later :)
03:11 Helenah; Like... back when I called you a misogynist, you're far from it.
03:12 reptilian_thrills; but until then, cheers!
03:12 reptilian_thrills; you're far from it <- well im unconventional and not pc
03:12 Helenah; hmm
03:12 reptilian_thrills; but my politics overlap with feminism well enough imo
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03:12 reptilian_thrills; it always depends how you define feminism. some are terfs.
03:12 Helenah; I don't agree with all types of feminism.
03:12 reptilian_thrills; i dont overlap with those
03:13 reptilian_thrills; I don't agree with all types of feminism. <- thats just it-- its not really possible to
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03:13 Helenah; Some of them are fine, others are fighting for something which doesn't need fighting for, others are excludionary and everything.
03:13 Helenah; You get modern type of feminism where they fight for things like anti-gentleman
03:13 reptilian_thrills; yeah thats...
03:14 Helenah; What's wrong with a man holding the door for a woman? What the fuck is wrong with anyone holding the door for anyone else?
03:14 reptilian_thrills; i compare it to stalins plowing
03:14 Helenah; lol
03:14 reptilian_thrills; What the fuck is wrong with anyone holding the door for anyone else? its P R O B L E M A T I C
03:14 reptilian_thrills; honestly its post structuralism
03:14 reptilian_thrills; its HIGHLY unstable
03:14 Helenah; hmm
03:14 reptilian_thrills; we might need a little post structuralism
03:14 reptilian_thrills; too much and the world just goes nuts
03:15 Helenah; I do it out of mere politeness is someone is like right behind me, it's better than letting a door slam in their face.
03:15 Helenah; *if
03:15 reptilian_thrills; it's better than letting a door slam in their face <- yeah its just
03:15 reptilian_thrills; if you make not letting a door slam in someones face into a political statement
03:15 reptilian_thrills; then it becomes about whether youre making the right statement or not
03:15 reptilian_thrills; at that point i pretty much just tell people to go fuck themselves, and thats MY political statement
03:15 Helenah; And what these modern feminists are wishing for is doors slammed in their faces as men would start feeling rude holding it for them even if they're literally 2cm behind you.
03:16 Helenah; Ah
03:16 reptilian_thrills; i had someone say "youre welcome?" to me after holding a door just last night
03:16 Helenah; They actually exclamed it too? :D
03:16 reptilian_thrills; i didnt worry about it, i said thank you audibly and its obvious that some noise prevented them from hearing me
03:16 reptilian_thrills; so i just kept walking
03:17 reptilian_thrills; i could have stayed and made it even more awkward, but people are more likely to take a compliment than accept an apology these days
03:17 Helenah; hmm
03:17 reptilian_thrills; so i just let it go
03:17 Helenah; You see, I would've said "Thank you very much", literally.
03:17 reptilian_thrills; well i said thank you, and i meant it
03:17 reptilian_thrills; it was noisy so he probably didnt hear me
03:17 Helenah; I literally would've put "you very much" on the end, it's literally how I thank people irl. :D
03:17 Helenah; Ah
03:18 reptilian_thrills; I literally would've put "you very much" <- i miss the uk sometimes
03:18 Helenah; But yeah you get rude fucks.
03:18 reptilian_thrills; not enough to go back, but enuogh to be depressed for a year or two after leaving
03:18 Helenah; hmm
03:18 *Helenah hugs
03:18 reptilian_thrills; But yeah you get rude fucks. <- i think he just felt stepped on that no one said thank you
03:19 reptilian_thrills; it was one of those door-airlocks that increase energy efficiency and make everything awkward for more than one person going through
03:19 reptilian_thrills; if i hadnt been wearing a mask im sure the sound woudl have carried
03:19 Helenah; hmm
03:19 reptilian_thrills; /me hugs helenah
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03:21 Helenah; Is there something wrong with your command interpreter? :3
03:22 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> Is there something wrong with your command interpreter? <- it really depends who you ask
03:22 Helenah; Oh
03:22 Helenah; :D
03:22 reptilian_thrills; its functioning within normal parameters
03:22 Helenah; Ah
03:24 starstreak; you know what blows my mind? memes
03:26 reptilian_thrills; /me still like oppalance
03:27 starstreak; who was the first person to take an image and add text to it so that its a joke
03:28 reptilian_thrills; oh i know this one
03:28 reptilian_thrills; look up ne pas une pipe
03:28 reptilian_thrills; treachery of images
03:28 reptilian_thrills; or lhooq
03:28 reptilian_thrills; which is a french pun for "shes got a hot ass"
03:28 reptilian_thrills; marcel duchamp
03:29 starstreak; nah like internet memes
03:29 reptilian_thrills; well i mean, theyre on the internet now
03:29 starstreak; internet memes didnt really exist back in the 00s
03:29 reptilian_thrills; but i guess yeah, not made for the internet
03:29 reptilian_thrills; unless duchamp was truly a prophet
03:30 reptilian_thrills; "the thing about the internet is people misquote you all the time"-- abraham lincoln
03:30 starstreak; ok so we had the dancing baby
03:30 starstreak; i guess thats a meme
03:30 reptilian_thrills; i consider that a proto meme
03:30 reptilian_thrills; as long as we are restricting scope to the internet
03:31 starstreak; the whole image and text thing really picked up in the 10s though
03:31 reptilian_thrills; but really, this goes back as far as email signatures
03:31 reptilian_thrills; as they contained ascii art
03:31 starstreak; ok
03:31 reptilian_thrills; so you have to specify raster images
03:31 reptilian_thrills; or something
03:31 reptilian_thrills; otherwise warhol
03:31 starstreak; the format: image with text super imposed
03:31 reptilian_thrills; he didnt even need text
03:32 reptilian_thrills; "its a picture over and over, bitch! i memed the shit out of it"
03:32 reptilian_thrills; image with text super imposed <- lolcats?
03:32 reptilian_thrills; fwiw-- in the 90s no less, we had some postcards that would have qualified as memes had they been online
03:32 reptilian_thrills; what i mean is
03:33 reptilian_thrills; chances are this made it online the very moment the technology supported it
03:33 reptilian_thrills; so youre really looking not for the first example, which is impossibile
03:33 reptilian_thrills; but the first MAINSTREAM (popularly known) example
03:33 reptilian_thrills; and that would probably be lhooq or treachery of images IF they were online
03:33 starstreak; meme: https://i.imgur.com/rH5GGmR.jpg
03:33 reptilian_thrills; but otherwise...
03:34 reptilian_thrills; welcome to #internethistory
03:34 starstreak; i'd like to take a guess and say modern memes probably started with smart phones
03:35 reptilian_thrills; thats a good guess but
03:35 reptilian_thrills; i remember when smart phones became a thing
03:35 reptilian_thrills; and lolcats preceded that, im 99% sure
03:35 reptilian_thrills; what they did is made it even more mainstream
03:35 starstreak; if you have the facebook app its really easy to save memes and repost them
03:35 reptilian_thrills; smartphones didnt matter until the iphone
03:36 reptilian_thrills; just like mp3 players didnt matter until the ipod
03:36 starstreak; true
03:36 reptilian_thrills; and im not saying this as an apple fan. im a realist here.
03:36 reptilian_thrills; steve jobs made everybody want one.
03:36 starstreak; did you see the google phone before iphone?
03:36 starstreak; it looked like a blackberry
03:36 reptilian_thrills; yeah blackberries were a thing
03:36 starstreak; i had a few blackberries
03:36 reptilian_thrills; but only people with ties had a blackberry
03:37 starstreak; i first got into twitter via a blackberry
03:37 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> meme: https://i.imgur.com/rH5GGmR.jpg <- tsk
03:37 reptilian_thrills; youre making the channel look bad
03:37 starstreak; lol im autistic tho
03:37 reptilian_thrills; YOU, and your mems about vaxes and autism
03:37 reptilian_thrills; and conspiracy theories
03:38 reptilian_thrills; and making everything trans-fabulous, which has nothing to do with tech
03:38 starstreak; i had a blackberry and i didn't do email much lol
03:38 reptilian_thrills; dfc has been with us since the 80s
03:39 starstreak; BBM was nice
03:39 starstreak; blackberry messenger
03:39 reptilian_thrills; BBM was nice <- i dont listen to hip hop
03:39 starstreak; it was one of the first messenger apps that had delivery confirmation
03:39 reptilian_thrills; what were blackberry apps like?
03:39 starstreak; BBM = blackberry messenger
03:39 reptilian_thrills; before android i mean
03:39 reptilian_thrills; blackberry messenger <- i know you ruined the joke by explaining too soon
03:40 reptilian_thrills; being informative, and about tech
03:40 reptilian_thrills; /me tsks again
03:40 reptilian_thrills; just go back to the vaccine stuff
03:41 starstreak; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PpxUU32jSPg
03:41 TR Bot; Pocketnow Throwback: BlackBerry Curve 8330 review - Invidious
03:41 starstreak; thats the phone I had for work
03:41 starstreak; then we got upgraded to the iphone 4
03:41 reptilian_thrills; did you hold it right?
03:42 reptilian_thrills; iphone likes to be held...
03:42 reptilian_thrills; a certain way
03:42 starstreak; yeah
03:42 starstreak; i've had android devices too
03:42 reptilian_thrills; and pampered
03:42 starstreak; i like the iphone the best
03:42 reptilian_thrills; and wined and dined
03:42 starstreak; what will be my next phone? i dunno, maybe the pinephone
03:42 reptilian_thrills; iphone likes long walks on the beach and movies about war
03:43 reptilian_thrills; i've had android devices too <- me too but they were very one dimensional
03:43 starstreak; i can't use linucks to put music on my iphone
03:43 reptilian_thrills; i have put music on an iphone with linucks
03:43 reptilian_thrills; but then the phone couldnt play it
03:44 reptilian_thrills; because i didnt use the magic apple software
03:44 reptilian_thrills; but you could still read the files off the phone
03:44 reptilian_thrills; apple, it just works
03:44 starstreak; i tried rhythmbox and banshee and neither saw the device
03:44 starstreak; i had to pull my macbook out of the closet to put music on my phone
03:45 reptilian_thrills; like tom cruise
03:45 starstreak; apple, it just works with apple
03:45 reptilian_thrills; you macbook what are you OH MY GAD i like it in here i mean like i feel really safe!
03:45 starstreak; i could probably load itunes up in a windows 10 vm but i hate turning that thing on
03:45 starstreak; windows is so slow
03:46 reptilian_thrills; windows be like:
03:46 reptilian_thrills; ...
03:46 reptilian_thrills; /me shows the windows logo
03:46 starstreak; i have a windows 10 vm for doing my taxes
03:46 reptilian_thrills; /me teases with a blank screen like its gonna load
03:46 reptilian_thrills; /me shows the windows logo again
03:46 reptilian_thrills; /me makes dots go around the logo in a circle
03:47 reptilian_thrills; /me pauses for another 10 seconds
03:47 starstreak; systemd boots faster
03:47 reptilian_thrills; id protest but its true
03:47 starstreak; why should my GUI be put on hold because the network is connecting
03:48 reptilian_thrills; now youre contradicting yourself
03:48 reptilian_thrills; while windows was loading i mastered the art of japanese ink painting
03:48 reptilian_thrills; i went out, bought some ink and brushes, some books, studied and practiced
03:48 Helenah; My tumour
03:48 reptilian_thrills; toured the world
03:48 reptilian_thrills; came back and it booted
03:48 starstreak; my system boots up in less than 10 seconds
03:49 reptilian_thrills; /me did actually practice japense ink painting but cant do a lot more than a fucking bamboo pole
03:49 reptilian_thrills; also this was before wesley snipes
03:49 Helenah; starstreak: Memes have been around for thousands of years, even in the form of carvings of pictograms and writing to go with it on cave walls.
03:49 reptilian_thrills; and windows 10
03:50 Helenah; It's nothing new, and it's not specific to the internet or the media.
03:50 reptilian_thrills; lolcats used to be a lot bigger
03:50 reptilian_thrills; and they had huge teeth
03:50 DaemonFC; Windows 10 really sucks in a virtual machine.
03:50 reptilian_thrills; and they taste like chicken
03:50 Helenah; DaemonFC: I call BS...
03:50 DaemonFC; I thought it was slow on actual computers just because of a little jank.
03:51 Helenah; With the correct virtualisation setup, it can be near-native performance.
03:51 reptilian_thrills; this was before mcdonalds
03:51 reptilian_thrills; and wesley snipes
03:51 reptilian_thrills; With the correct virtualisation setup, it can be near-native performance. <- i turned my computer into a virtual computer
03:51 Helenah; qemu + vfio for example will give you near-native performance.
03:51 reptilian_thrills; only when the power went out it disappeared and i dont know where it is
03:52 Helenah; Providing you do GPU passthrough and also trick the VM into thinking the CPU is a real one.
03:52 DaemonFC; The default is like 4 GB of RAM.
03:52 Helenah; That has nothing to do with performance...
03:52 DaemonFC; I don't even really want to give it that much, but it's enough to make it load Internet Exploder.
03:53 Helenah; Unless you're exceeding it.
03:53 Helenah; Then the system will page and it will slug as a result
03:53 Helenah; But until it exceeds that 4GB...
03:53 starstreak; Helenah, i was trying to pinpoint the timeline of a specific format of meme, the standard image with top and bottom text
03:54 Helenah; I'm not sure you can really say any format of meme is a standard.
03:54 DaemonFC; Enable hardware acceleration was off.
03:54 MinceR; 16 043555 < reptilian_thrills> smartphones didnt matter until the iphone
03:54 MinceR; i had a smartphone before the hypePhone even existed and it mattered to me
03:54 reptilian_thrills; ok boomer
03:54 reptilian_thrills; /me runs
03:55 reptilian_thrills; but seriously, i mean to the general public, not to tech people
03:55 Helenah; DaemonFC: I just find it funny how you're whining about the performance of a Windows 10 VM blaming Windows itself yet I've ran modern games in a Windows 10 VM at full FPS.
03:55 Helenah; Yes I agree that Windows itself does have some performance issues but it doesn't make a difference if virtual or physical in that regard.
03:55 MinceR; the general public needs a smartphone so little they don't even notice that hypePhones aren't smartphones
03:56 MinceR; Helenah: guess what are "modern" game FPS-es compared to.
03:56 Helenah; DaemonFC: I just think you say shit that you want to believe even when it isn't true.
03:56 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 88300 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43030 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 months 11 days ago
03:56 MinceR; 16 045025 < DaemonFC> Windows 10 really sucks in a virtual machine.
03:56 reptilian_thrills; everyone complaining about postmodernism take note
03:56 Helenah; MinceR: I've even mapped HUGE amounts of highly graphical terrain in such VM.
03:56 MinceR; it really sucks on a real machine too.
03:56 reptilian_thrills; mincer is PRE-modern
03:57 Helenah; Surely fucking around with an engine is more resource costly than simply playing a game.
03:57 MinceR; who knows
03:57 reptilian_thrills; it depends on the engine
03:57 MinceR; the "modern" web tends to be more resource-hungry than games
03:57 MinceR; and has no right to be
03:57 reptilian_thrills; because if the engine is well designed and the game was coded by a team of monkeys
03:57 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Unreal Engine and Unity 3D, they're still very heavy.
03:57 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 81 GB TotalOut: 22 GB
03:57 reptilian_thrills; sure but those are examples
03:58 reptilian_thrills; i mean if you mean "so far with existing examples" then probably, yes
03:58 MinceR; PrBoom+ is a lot lighter than those engines :>
03:58 DaemonFC; Eh, I don't need it to work well.
03:58 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:58 DaemonFC; I just needed to load IE for a few minutes.
03:58 DaemonFC; Worked for that.
03:59 reptilian_thrills; you have to be careful with mincer, he knows a lot more than phanes and unlike phanes he only waves it around your face when hes in the mood to do so
03:59 reptilian_thrills; phanes just runs it up the flagpole and sees if anyone salutes
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.86
04:00 Helenah; I played in the VM just fine GTA V, League of Legends, Minecraft, WoW (Though uses fuck all), CoD, Cities Skylines, The Sims 4, a fuckton of other games.
04:00 DaemonFC; I just use Wine or something.
04:00 DaemonFC; Virtual machines are just too slow for that.
04:00 Helenah; The VM didn't hinder game performance at all.
04:01 Helenah; DaemonFC: Dude
04:01 Helenah; Now you're blaming VMs...
04:01 Helenah; as a whole
04:01 Helenah; You're generalising
04:01 Helenah; You do not even know what you're talking about.
04:01 Helenah; This machine was literally running like 5 VMs
04:02 reptilian_thrills; what cpu
04:02 DaemonFC; Windows can barely run games at a playable speed when it's the Host OS.
04:02 Helenah; And here you are calling VMs slow...
04:02 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: i7
04:02 reptilian_thrills; wow
04:02 Helenah; DaemonFC: Not true.
04:02 reptilian_thrills; /me expected higher, with 5 vms
04:02 DaemonFC; I have a Tiger Lake i7, 16 GB RAM, and Iris XE graphics.
04:02 Helenah; Like I said before, Windows does have its performance issues but...
04:02 DaemonFC; Wine runs most games fine.
04:03 Helenah; You should still be able to play games at full speed
04:03 reptilian_thrills; plus its pure concentrated evil coming out of bill gates backside
04:03 Helenah; providing your hardware is cut out to deal with the performance of Windows and the games at the same time.
04:04 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: I'm more of a GNU/Linux user myself.
04:04 Helenah; And its runtime seems to feel smoother than that of Windows.
04:05 Helenah; but DaemonFC does not know what they're talking about. :D
04:06 Helenah; DaemonFC: My hypervisor has 128GB RAM
04:07 Helenah; And is packed out with graphics cards
04:07 Helenah; That's how I get my VM performance!!!
04:07 Helenah; And that's how I run soo many VMs at once!
04:07 Helenah; Because the CPU isn't having to software render the graphics of them.
04:08 starstreak; Helenah, thats hot
04:08 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: ^
04:08 Helenah; starstreak: Thanks
04:08 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> reptilian_thrills: ^ <- hehehe
04:08 starstreak; i wish i had 128GB of ram, gnome would run smoother
04:08 Helenah; You shouldn't need that for a DE...
04:08 Helenah; o.O
04:08 Helenah; Not sure why you think you do...
04:08 starstreak; LOL im making fun of gnome
04:08 Helenah; Oh LOL
04:09 Helenah; I didn't see that haha :D
04:09 reptilian_thrills; <3
04:09 reptilian_thrills; buttons... pushed!
04:09 Helenah; I <3 my i3wm
04:09 starstreak; im currently using 5.6GB of ram
04:09 Helenah; My hypervisor is GNU/Linux, I got two of them.
04:09 Helenah; One in DC, one in house.
04:09 Helenah; One in house is headless as far as the host is concerned but the VMs have their own dedicated displays.
04:10 starstreak; Helenah, you should try stable diffusion
04:10 Helenah; VMs which start automatically so I only need to power it on, all the VMs come up automatically along with their displays, keyboards, mice.
04:10 Helenah; So there is no touching the host, ever, only for updates and maintenance which I can simply SSH in to do that.
04:11 reptilian_thrills; my window manager:
04:11 reptilian_thrills; SIZE RES
04:11 reptilian_thrills; 776K 4712K
04:11 starstreak; Helenah, https://github.com/cmdr2/stable-diffusion-ui
04:11 TR Bot; - cmdr2/stable-diffusion-ui: Easiest 1-click way to install and use Stable Diffusion on your own computer. Provides a browser UI for generating images from text prompts and images. Just enter your text prompt, and see the generated image.
04:11 Helenah; Looks nice :D
04:12 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Nice :D
04:12 starstreak; its the AI art generator I use
04:12 Helenah; I have an IRC server somewhere that only has 8MB RAM.
04:12 starstreak; my dual core with hyperthreading takes 15 minutes to make 1 image
04:12 Helenah; reptilian_thrills, starstreak I have an IRC server somewhere that only has 8MB RAM.
04:12 starstreak; nice
04:12 reptilian_thrills; /me clusters his 1mp cameras together to take one really average-sized picture
04:13 Helenah; So when people are running UnrealIRCd and claiming they need gigs of RAM, it's fucking whackjobish.
04:13 Helenah; lol
04:13 Helenah; Boycott unreal!
04:13 Helenah; It is NOT resource efficient at all!
04:13 starstreak; unreal is that bad?
04:13 Helenah; Boycott it, stop being a dick with your resources...
04:13 Helenah; starstreak: Yep
04:13 Helenah; an IRC network I'm oper on, they use UnrealIRCd and allocating silly amounts of RAM...
04:14 Helenah; Yet I can run Solanum IRCd within 8MB RAM and it doesn't even need to swap.
04:14 Helenah; Which is better use of hardware resources for other things.
04:14 Helenah; 8MB RAM, single core
04:14 starstreak; 8MB is crazy low
04:14 starstreak; what OS?
04:15 Helenah; It's IRC, it was wrote in 1988 for christ sake
04:15 Helenah; starstreak: Devuan
04:15 Helenah; Which is systemd-less Debian
04:15 reptilian_thrills; sort of
04:15 starstreak; i know of it
04:15 MinceR; iirc people are doing stuff with unrealircd that solanum won't do, though
04:15 reptilian_thrills; /me switched to devuan in 2015
04:15 Helenah; MinceR: Correct but it's unnecessary features.
04:15 Helenah; They're mere bells and whistles and they're wants, not needs.
04:16 starstreak; my server is using 314MB with nothing but cjdns and irssi loaded :/
04:16 MinceR; spamfilter is pretty awesome
04:16 starstreak; oh and nginx
04:17 Helenah; Seriously though even with a lot of the modules not loaded, it still asks for pathetic amounts of MiB's...
04:17 phanes; every ircd sucks
04:17 Helenah; Which means the core codebase isn't resource efficient.
04:17 Helenah; Because of crappy developers
04:17 phanes; like they literally all need rewritten from the ground up
04:17 reptilian_thrills; how did you get out
04:17 MinceR; anope compatibility is also handy
04:17 reptilian_thrills; go back to lunch https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xcWOviMI6Lk
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04:17 TR Bot; Robbie Williams - Millennium (Official Music Video) - Invidious
04:18 Helenah; Atheme here, I forgot to mention but the 8MB RAM single core IRC hub is running Atheme on it.
04:18 Helenah; So EVERYTHING is within 8MB of RAM! :D
04:18 Helenah; And a single core
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04:18 Helenah; :D
04:18 MinceR; we'll see if anyone is willing and able to write an appropriate replacement
04:18 Helenah; It's the 90s all over again, how cool is that?!
04:18 MinceR; maybe even with RELAYMSG
04:18 starstreak; linucks btw
04:19 MinceR; and without inspircd's creative interpretation of the standards
04:19 reptilian_thrills; It's the 90s all over again, how cool is that <- that means hillary clinton is potus
04:19 MinceR; that's a different branch, isn't it?
04:19 Helenah; Was that the person who used a home email server and it got hacked, reptilian_thrills? :D
04:19 reptilian_thrills; i mean it could be
04:20 reptilian_thrills; she also ran against lawrence lessig for the white house
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:20 Helenah; MinceR: It might be more resource efficient under a rewrite
04:20 Helenah; Like the IRCd family tree is HUGE now
04:20 Helenah; every single IRCd is based off another IRCd based off another IRCd and so on and so forth
04:21 Helenah; and that's bound to create code mess
04:21 MinceR; i think there are some from-scratch ircd-s around
04:21 Helenah; MinceR: I did one myself...
04:21 Helenah; I don't use it though.
04:22 Helenah; and there are from scratch IRCd's around anyway
04:22 Helenah; What about the first ever IRCd? Isn't that not from scratch? Of course it is!
04:22 MinceR; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/IRCd_software_implementations3.svg
04:24 Helenah; MinceR, reptilian_thrills, I still use CB radio btw.
04:24 MinceR; i don't use cb radio btw
04:25 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> MinceR, reptilian_thrills, I still use CB radio btw. <- thats awesome
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04:25 Helenah; There are more BBS users than CB users, MinceR
04:25 Helenah; Yes, BBS is still a thing.
04:25 MinceR; i used to use bbs btw
04:25 reptilian_thrills; i tried to tell roy how to make a bbs
04:26 reptilian_thrills; /me used small bbs and mainstream ones btw
04:26 MinceR; i don't even know which of the hungarian bbs-es i knew counted as "mainstream"
04:26 Helenah; reptilian_thrills, MinceR, https://i.imgur.com/N3n87Ax.jpg
04:26 reptilian_thrills; 9600 (ive done lower but never when i had a choice)
04:26 Helenah; See the radio on top? :D
04:26 Helenah; and the old fashioned tool box! :D
04:27 MinceR; i don't even have a rack
04:27 MinceR; i don't even have room for one
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04:27 Helenah; starstreak: https://i.imgur.com/N3n87Ax.jpg
04:27 Helenah; MinceR: I paid 20GBP for that rack brand new. :D
04:27 Helenah; No joke!
04:28 starstreak; *drools*
04:28 Helenah; I made all the cables
04:29 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> starstreak: https://i.imgur.com/N3n87Ax.jpg <- this is super hot
04:29 Helenah; My WiFi AP https://i.imgur.com/1FVBebX.jpg
04:29 Helenah; Yep it's on the ceiling! :D
04:29 MinceR; needs cooling?
04:29 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: :D
04:29 Helenah; MinceR: Does what need cooling?
04:29 MinceR; the rack
04:29 Helenah; Nope.
04:29 MinceR; since it's "super hot"
04:29 Helenah; OH
04:30 Helenah; Well
04:30 Helenah; starstreak fans it for me with her beauty <3
04:30 starstreak; :3
04:30 MinceR; i have my doubts about the efficacy of that method
04:30 reptilian_thrills; yeah if anything that will only make it worse
04:30 reptilian_thrills; you arent going to cool anything with girl-on-grill action
04:31 Helenah; And speaking of memes I made this a very LONG time ago! https://i.imgur.com/9JGlHC5.jpg
04:31 Helenah; Cause I'm crazy
04:32 reptilian_thrills; ITS A UNIX SYSTEM! I KNOW THIS!
04:32 reptilian_thrills; /me used to have a linucks clone of that sgi file viewer
04:32 MinceR; ah-ah-ah! you didn't say the magic word!
04:32 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Speaking of my in-house hypervisor
04:32 reptilian_thrills; ah-ah-ah! you didn't say the magic word! <- von NEUMANN!!!
04:32 Helenah; Did you know its HDMI and USB cables run through walls and ceilings?
04:33 Helenah; And you get this https://i.imgur.com/nOv5RF9.jpg
04:33 Helenah; That image there
04:33 Helenah; you're looking at a VM
04:33 reptilian_thrills; i.t. inception
04:34 Helenah; What do you think? :D
04:34 Helenah; Like every room the systems in them are all VMs
04:34 Helenah; in disguise as physical machines
04:34 Helenah; :D
04:34 reptilian_thrills; very impressive
04:34 Helenah; Like dumb terminals
04:35 Helenah; Another dumb terminal, reptilian_thrills https://i.imgur.com/fhU1z52.jpg
04:35 Helenah; But with Windows 10
04:35 Helenah; which DaemonFC claimed doesn't work well in a VM...
04:35 Helenah; lol
04:35 Helenah; claims VMs too slow to run it...
04:35 Helenah; lol
04:36 reptilian_thrills; wild
04:37 Helenah; Better pic of that dumb terminal running GNU/Linux reptilian_thrills https://i.imgur.com/CQnE68a.jpg
04:37 Helenah; Notice there is literally no base unit? :D
04:37 Helenah; That's cause there isn't one.
04:37 reptilian_thrills; youre definitely crazy
04:38 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Yep!
04:38 starstreak; Helenah, my desk: https://i.imgur.com/qgyG6Dz.jpg
04:38 Helenah; And that phone? it connects to the PBx in the rack
04:38 Helenah; 9 to dial out via PSTN, 8 to dial out via GSM
04:38 reptilian_thrills; lol
04:38 Helenah; So you dial 9 or 8 followed by the phone number of choice.
04:39 Helenah; So 999 would be 9999 via PSTN and 8999 via GSM
04:39 reptilian_thrills; which number to dial over VOCB
04:39 Helenah; starstreak: Nice :D
04:40 reptilian_thrills; roy has pictures of his desk too
04:40 reptilian_thrills; hundreds, maybe thousands
04:40 starstreak; l
04:40 starstreak; lol
04:41 reptilian_thrills; "youre a tiger! GRRRRR! give me angry! angry! ooh, give me pouting, good, good, now be cheeky! yes! yes! NO! NO! NO!"
04:41 Helenah; reptilian_thrills, starstreak, This is my TV, yet another dumb terminal https://i.imgur.com/aHYcJv4.jpg
04:41 Helenah; That's my lounge
04:41 reptilian_thrills; this is definitely oppalance
04:42 Helenah; The cleaner part of the house rather than the trashy hacky mad multiple roomed lab part of the house
04:42 Helenah; reptilian_thrills, starstreak, And yet another dumb terminal, same room https://i.imgur.com/Kbi13cG.jpg
04:42 Helenah; Told you!
04:42 reptilian_thrills; wth
04:42 Helenah; My whole house is literally dumb terminals!
04:42 Helenah; I wasn't lying...
04:43 reptilian_thrills; nope, not lying
04:43 Helenah; One single centralised system to power it all
04:43 starstreak; Helenah, dumb terminals?
04:43 Helenah; starstreak: Yep
04:43 starstreak; so everything runs off your hypervisor?
04:43 Helenah; And you haven't seen the hot tub yet :D
04:43 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: ^
04:43 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> One single centralised system to power it all <- does the hypervisor run systemd?
04:43 Helenah; Yep, I said hot tub!
04:43 Helenah; :D
04:43 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: No
04:43 Helenah; sysvinit
04:43 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> And you haven't seen the hot tub yet :D <- somehow i suspect i never will
04:44 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> sysvinit <- well that hardly fits "One single centralised system to power it all" but good
04:45 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Each dumb terminal has its own GPU card.
04:45 Helenah; dedicated to it
04:45 Helenah; All the GPU cards are in that rack
04:45 Helenah; in one single system
04:45 reptilian_thrills; /me is reminded of the video "Get Off" by prince
04:45 reptilian_thrills; but techno
04:45 starstreak; Helenah, that is so badass
04:46 reptilian_thrills; "heres the server rack" <- "thats just john mcaffee holding a blade server"
04:47 reptilian_thrills; "yeah, i installed that for starstreak"
04:48 phanes; https://external-preview.redd.it/fIikxPA11nC4n-1ahvs5jCVvWxJuvlVC5VA8tV9L5I8.gif?format=mp4&s=dcbab2add10a8cd52bfebdafd5f5af2bdfe7bc4c
04:49 Helenah; starstreak, reptilian_thrills, Hot tub https://files.catbox.moe/jaotk0.mp4
04:49 Helenah; phanes: ^
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04:49 phanes; idk Helenah its streaming so slowly i can't even watch it
04:50 Helenah; Idk how to make it stream faster...
04:50 *Helenah sighs I'll jsut get a fuckin image
04:50 Helenah; I just wanted to show the damn lights!
04:50 Helenah; They're like a disco... man...
04:51 phanes; im not sure what im looking at
04:51 phanes; is this an isolation chamber
04:51 phanes; for like sensory-deprivation trips
04:51 Helenah; phanes, reptilian_thrills, starstreak https://i.imgur.com/mphCnDl.jpg
04:51 Helenah; phanes: It's my spa room
04:51 Helenah; Yeah, another room... o.o
04:51 phanes; lol
04:51 phanes; you should see a movie called "altered states"
04:52 Helenah; It has lights that spiral around the room and shit
04:52 Helenah; :D
04:52 Helenah; and different colours
04:52 Helenah; flashing and shit
04:52 Helenah; like a disco
04:52 Helenah; I haven't seen that.
04:52 phanes; oh you gotta watch it
04:53 reptilian_thrills; /me plays the fugees saturday night song
04:53 starstreak; Helenah, thats pretty awesome
04:54 Helenah; starstreak, reptilian_thrills, phanes, Wanna see a second spa room? https://i.imgur.com/AaLIihr.jpg
04:55 Helenah; Oh now I'm being revealing! :D
04:55 starstreak; Helenah, you have such cool things
04:55 Helenah; Thanks :D
04:55 phanes; 2 point bonus for the scotch by the tub, 5 point demerit for platic cups
04:55 Helenah; phanes: Martini
04:56 phanes; 3 point demerit for martini instead of scotch
04:56 Helenah; :D
04:56 Helenah; I like brandy and scotch
04:56 Helenah; and a fuckton of other things too :D
04:56 reptilian_thrills; :)
04:56 phanes; im just not sure what i would -do- with a spa room tbh
04:57 starstreak; Helenah, have you ever tried LSD?
04:57 Helenah; starstreak, phanes, reptilian_thrills, And I like to get the publics attention too https://i.imgur.com/YJltqon.jpg
04:57 Helenah; Like that
04:57 Helenah; :D
04:57 Helenah; Except this dude is cool in that he's got a microphine!
04:57 Helenah; *microphone
04:57 phanes; im not trackin ya
04:58 Helenah; phanes: You wont find me...
04:58 Helenah; My sewage is pumped upwards, drained downwards...
04:58 Helenah; Actually that's bad, it's dead loud... :'(
04:58 phanes; is this code for sex things
04:58 Helenah; NO
04:58 Helenah; I'm meaning literally...
04:58 phanes; ok i have no idea what youre trying to say
04:59 Helenah; I take a wash and the pump kicks in the moment the water goes through the sink hole
04:59 Helenah; I take a dump and flush
04:59 Helenah; and loud noise
04:59 Helenah; pumping it up into the sewer
04:59 reptilian_thrills; lol
04:59 Helenah; o.O
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 37.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.66
04:59 phanes; that's not good you should hire contractors to redo that whole setup
04:59 Helenah; phanes: How?
05:00 phanes; or one day you'll come in after something fails just right and have every room filled with overflowing oceans of rotting shit
05:00 reptilian_thrills; plumbing in the uk (in my experience) is the weirdest ive seen
05:00 Helenah; No no...
05:00 Helenah; What I mean is...
05:00 Helenah; I live in a space where...
05:00 Helenah; the sewer is above
05:00 Helenah; and I'm below
05:00 Helenah; o.O
05:00 reptilian_thrills; that sounds unhealthy
05:00 Helenah; Does that make sense now?
05:00 phanes; yes that's what im saying
05:00 reptilian_thrills; yes perfectly
05:00 Helenah; Really?
05:00 reptilian_thrills; weird, but it makes sense
05:00 phanes; if something fails in that pipeline natural forces will reverse the flow
05:01 reptilian_thrills; well, everything is fighting gravity
05:01 Helenah; So you come looking for me on ground surface, phanes
05:01 Helenah; You will not find me
05:01 Helenah; and you'll be like "WTF"
05:01 Helenah; Okay?
05:01 Helenah; So don't bother
05:01 Helenah; you're wasting your time
05:01 phanes; no
05:01 Helenah; and I ain't even scared to give you my full name, okay?
05:01 phanes; what im trying to say is
05:01 phanes; you are one bad thunderstorm away from swimming to the surface through feces
05:01 reptilian_thrills; /me wonders whos bothering helenah but can guess
05:02 Helenah; I'm not bothered.
05:02 Helenah; I'm happy :D
05:02 Helenah; phanes: Believe me
05:02 Helenah; I once threw away a pair of sneakers
05:02 Helenah; Because I mean FUCK lol
05:02 Helenah; I'd walked through feces
05:02 Helenah; sewage up to my leg
05:02 Helenah; There was a flood like 2 years ago...
05:02 Helenah; and oh god
05:03 phanes; lol, so what im describing has already happened then?
05:03 Helenah; And mean it's said this place may be underwater by 2050
05:03 Helenah; phanes: The sewer got too erm...
05:03 reptilian_thrills; they didnt say greywater... but its greywater
05:03 Helenah; too full
05:03 Helenah; with rain water
05:03 phanes; i wouldn't live there
05:03 Helenah; HUGE downpour
05:03 phanes; i assume you're somebody's underground prisoner
05:03 Helenah; phanes: It was only outside
05:04 Helenah; Wait...
05:04 Helenah; o.O
05:04 Helenah; I'm nobody's prisoner...
05:04 Helenah; I went to get some AIR
05:04 Helenah; and I was like WTF with what I saw...
05:04 Helenah; o.O
05:04 Helenah; Water pressure from too much rain had popped a manhole cover off
05:05 phanes; ive noticed that living in houses with stairs stresses me out
05:05 Helenah; and out flooding came sewage
05:05 phanes; i need to be at ground level in houses with a long horizontal run
05:05 phanes; i would imagine being underground would be stressful like thatr
05:05 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> sewage up to my leg <- "i got the POO on me..."
05:06 Helenah; Then the next thing the Government turns up to disinfect the ground...
05:06 reptilian_thrills; so this is your origin story?
05:06 Helenah; They were picking up feces to get rid off and spraying a disinfectant
05:06 phanes; lol
05:06 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: A what story?
05:06 reptilian_thrills; its definitely messier than most of them
05:06 phanes; the story of how you got your powers
05:06 reptilian_thrills; well, you have super powers
05:06 reptilian_thrills; or pooers
05:06 reptilian_thrills; this is how it happened?
05:06 Helenah; Oh my super pooers, those!
05:07 Helenah; No
05:07 Helenah; Wait, whaT?
05:07 *Helenah is confused now
05:07 reptilian_thrills; youre obviously above average in a number of ways
05:07 reptilian_thrills; a super woman if you will
05:07 phanes; with super poo
05:07 reptilian_thrills; but this is one messy origin story
05:07 Helenah; Oh my girl pooers!
05:07 Helenah; Right I see!
05:08 phanes; Helenah, are you a woman or a man in irl who is a woman on irc
05:08 reptilian_thrills; maybe it was the super poo
05:08 reptilian_thrills; id prefer a radioactive spider given the choice
05:08 reptilian_thrills; but the wand chooses the wizard, after all
05:08 Helenah; phanes: woman
05:08 phanes; ok but i mean
05:08 phanes; this is irc
05:08 Helenah; Well on IRC I'm a man, no??
05:08 *phanes shrugs
05:08 Helenah; But irl I'm a woman, right?
05:09 Helenah; Isn't that right, reptilian_thrills?
05:09 reptilian_thrills; i mean if you want, just let me know if youre serious so i can use the pronouns you want
05:09 Helenah; It's me trying to avoid arguing whose a woman and whose a man. :D
05:09 Helenah; lol
05:09 Helenah; It doesn't matter really
05:09 reptilian_thrills; otherwise mjg will beat me with this thalidamide arms
05:09 phanes; it matters a great deal what gender a person is
05:09 Helenah; Not to the extent that like we erm... you know what... yeah, you're right, it matters a huge deal! :D
05:09 phanes; not just for their personal identity but in how that identity integrates socially with other identities
05:10 Helenah; So I'm going to do my little trick for you all
05:10 *Helenah whips down her panties and flashes
05:10 reptilian_thrills; w00t
05:10 Helenah; lol
05:11 Helenah; phanes: Anyway, yeah, so jokes aside... I'm a woman. :D
05:11 Helenah; phanes: And this is me enjoying petting my pet goat named Jasper. https://i.imgur.com/QBO2Mky.jpg
05:12 reptilian_thrills; say what you will about roy, i do, but he has the best irc channel on the internet
05:12 phanes; im confused how do you have a goat underground
05:12 Helenah; You clearly didn't click then, phanes :D
05:13 Helenah; Truth is I don't own a goat.
05:14 reptilian_thrills; i dont own a goat either
05:14 reptilian_thrills; zoning laws would forbid it
05:14 reptilian_thrills; you sound like you might get away with it
05:14 reptilian_thrills; if you had a pet crocodile you could just say "it followed me home"
05:15 Helenah; lol
05:15 reptilian_thrills; "must be downstream"
05:15 reptilian_thrills; granted as pets, crocodiles are a bit stroppy
05:15 Helenah; reptilian_thrills, phanes, starstreak, https://i.imgur.com/P1dfgGS.jpg
05:16 Helenah; brb coffee
05:16 reptilian_thrills; ill say
05:16 reptilian_thrills; /me has some too just to be safe
05:17 phanes; i was just thinking i want some espresso but then saw what time it was
05:17 Helenah; Skip the coffee, I found a nice joint.
05:17 Helenah; Oh yeah that tastes nice! :D
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:21 phanes; so excited
05:21 phanes; i pawned my gibson les paul like 11 or 12 years ago when i was poor
05:21 Helenah; I feel a bit sick
05:21 Helenah; lol
05:21 phanes; and by the time i had enough to get it out it was sold
05:21 phanes; but i tracked it down recently and bought it
05:21 phanes; and it arrives tomorrow
05:21 Helenah; I think it had been laying around for a while, it tasted a bit... funny
05:22 Helenah; Does anyone know how to fix the "Too many files in a single directory" problem?
05:22 phanes; Helenah, what OS?
05:22 reptilian_thrills; yes
05:22 Helenah; GNU/Linux ofc
05:22 reptilian_thrills; delete them, slowly
05:22 Helenah; .
05:22 phanes; Helenah, what filesystem and what exact error
05:22 reptilian_thrills; or copy to another partition and format
05:22 reptilian_thrills; or run hdparm
05:22 Helenah; Well... it's that problem where shit crashes when it tries indexing it all like ls command for example
05:23 reptilian_thrills; i would offer more details but i dont run linucks
05:23 reptilian_thrills; dont use ls
05:23 phanes; yeah but what filesystem
05:23 Helenah; Literally indexed like 5 directories
05:23 Helenah; no files
05:23 phanes; ntfs, ext4, fat
05:23 Helenah; in that directory
05:23 reptilian_thrills; weird
05:23 Helenah; but there are 100,000s of files and directories
05:23 Helenah; Cause too many for it to process...
05:24 reptilian_thrills; i mean if you give me access over ssh ill try to sort it out for you, but theres literally no reason you should trust me
05:24 Helenah; I give up with this nonsense...
05:24 reptilian_thrills; you CAN trust me, but i wouldnt
05:24 phanes; ls -U avoids the sorting which will be most of the slowdown
05:24 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, you don't use ls? what do you use?
05:24 Helenah; brb reboot
05:24 reptilian_thrills; well i dont have this problem, so ls works fine
05:24 reptilian_thrills; also my version of ls isnt her version of ls
05:24 reptilian_thrills; as you know
05:25 phanes; are you some busybox dweeb or something
05:25 starstreak; phanes, he uses openbsd
05:25 phanes; i thought he ran arch
05:25 phanes; or was that you
05:25 starstreak; i use arch linucks btw
05:29 Helenah; I'm back
05:29 Helenah; and I got coffee on
05:29 Helenah; and I checked battery reserves
05:29 Helenah; and they're doing good
05:29 reptilian_thrills; so ive figured you out now
05:29 Helenah; so at least I don't need to worry about power
05:29 reptilian_thrills; youre an australian
05:29 reptilian_thrills; but you live in the uk
05:29 Helenah; I'd hate it if I couldn't brew coffee due to no reserves
05:30 reptilian_thrills; /me just uses instant
05:30 Helenah; It goes off too quickly
05:30 Helenah; therefore is difficult to store
05:30 Helenah; It turns into a goop as the air gets to it...
05:30 reptilian_thrills; in a jar?
05:30 Helenah; Yep even in a jar eventually
05:30 reptilian_thrills; okay
05:31 starstreak; what about the freezer?
05:31 reptilian_thrills; is it hard to get to the shop, or are you prepping for the day that bill gates shows us the mothership
05:32 reptilian_thrills; starstreak, you know his wifes name? not melinda, i mean his REAL wife
05:32 starstreak; Queen Reptoid?
05:32 reptilian_thrills; i was gonna say "liz"
05:32 reptilian_thrills; get it?
05:32 starstreak; lol
05:33 reptilian_thrills; :D
05:33 starstreak; Liz the lizard
05:33 Helenah; reptilian_thrills, starstreak, phanes, https://i.imgur.com/MF3g9NT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8pOxIDu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jsFEBrF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yTRhNaB.jpg
05:34 starstreak; Helenah, is that your tower?
05:38 Helenah; starstreak: That's 4 towers https://i.imgur.com/NFO8gTa.jpg
05:39 Helenah; https://i.imgur.com/2u188PY.jpg
05:40 starstreak; those are all your towers?
05:41 Helenah; starstreak: No
05:42 Helenah; That facility uses way more power than my battery reserves can handle.
05:42 starstreak; oh lol so you're sharing random towers?
05:42 Helenah; Well not "random"
05:42 reptilian_thrills; why is everything on batteries?
05:42 Helenah; starstreak: It's a relay station.
05:43 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: My entire premise is on batteries. o.O
05:43 reptilian_thrills; yes, but why?
05:43 Helenah; That's my means of electricity...
05:43 reptilian_thrills; what charges them?
05:44 reptilian_thrills; or watt charges them (yuk yuk yuk)
05:44 starstreak; "That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?" -Joe Rogan
05:44 reptilian_thrills; /me yanks himself off the stage
05:45 reptilian_thrills; no, not like that
05:45 Helenah; Solar, wind, geothermal. And gas? That would be anaerobic digestion
05:45 reptilian_thrills; you found the weirdest place in the uk and moved there
05:45 Helenah; Oh and there's backup supply for electricity for if those aren't options.
05:45 reptilian_thrills; that or you were born there
05:46 Helenah; Yeah well I'm not hit by the fuel crisis
05:46 Helenah; I'd rather that...
05:46 reptilian_thrills; points for that!
05:46 reptilian_thrills; i pity the fuel
05:46 Helenah; Everyone in the UK is complaining about sky high bills and that they can't afford them.
05:46 Helenah; Me? I'm not with a single energy board.
05:46 Helenah; and it's the energy board having them cry.
05:47 reptilian_thrills; heh
05:47 Helenah; Russia
05:47 Helenah; They basically er...
05:47 Helenah; Well the war with Ukraine and all that lol
05:47 Helenah; And there are cool stuff going on in house
05:48 Helenah; The production of sodium hydroxide, sodium chlorate, sodium hypochlorite, chlorine gas, hydrogen gas
05:48 Helenah; well hydrogen and chlorine gas are collected, not produced
05:48 Helenah; but okies
05:48 Helenah; Then there is the CO2 supply
05:49 Helenah; CO2 is a byproduct of anaerobic digestion
05:49 Helenah; sodium hydroxide, sodium chlorate, sodium hydrochlorite, chlorine gas and hydrogen gas are products of electrolysis of saline (H2O + Sodium Chloride)
05:50 Helenah; sodium chlorate and sodium hypochlorite are household bleach
05:50 Helenah; Sodium hydroxide can be used to make soap to wash with
05:50 Helenah; CO2 can be used to fizz up homebrew
05:51 Helenah; From the anaerobic digestion process, not only do I get CO2 but also biomethane
05:51 Helenah; Then there is the fertiliser for plants
05:51 reptilian_thrills; helenah is doctor who
05:52 Helenah; Rain water is collected, filtered and then drank
05:52 reptilian_thrills; her home is bigger on the inside, and all this science stuff just to flush to the loo
05:52 reptilian_thrills; definitely from the planet of the timelords
05:52 Helenah; o.O
05:52 phanes; for poo that runs upwards
05:52 *Helenah chokes on her coffee
05:52 Helenah; phanes: That isn't what I said happened though...
05:53 Helenah; Like I said, I went outside for air
05:53 Helenah; to find everywhere had flooded
05:53 Helenah; and manhole covered had been blown off via water pressure
05:53 Helenah; from a heavy down pour
05:53 phanes; the great poo flood of 20 ought 6
05:53 Helenah; which resulted in floods containing feces
05:53 Helenah; It wasn't in my premise.
05:54 reptilian_thrills; you know you could throw off collectors and door to door salespeople if you built a decoy next to your real premise
05:54 reptilian_thrills; but that would be a false premise
05:55 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: How much do you think I spend on vitamin C?
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05:55 reptilian_thrills; i dunno, i keep saying they should put it in drugs so that more people get enough vitamin c
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05:55 Helenah; I spend zero amounts of money on fruit and vegetables.
05:56 Helenah; But eat plenty of them
05:56 *phanes wonders wtf a vegetable is
05:57 starstreak; my diet is eggs, english muffins, and chicken fingers
05:57 phanes; i think those are made from those "sal lid" things my doctor keeps saying i need to eat
05:57 Helenah; Here is a test report on some of my levels, no vitamins included though to show I have good health
05:57 Helenah; Urea and electrolytes:
05:57 Helenah; Name Result Normal Range
05:57 Helenah; Serum sodium 141 mmol/L 133 - 146 mmol/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum potassium 4.2 mmol/L 3.5 - 5.3 mmol/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum urea level 4.6 mmol/L 2.5 - 7.8 mmol/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum creatinine 78 umol/L 45 - 84 umol/L
05:58 Helenah; GFR calculated abbreviated MDRD > 90 ml/min/1.73sqm N/A
05:58 Helenah; Serum lipids:
05:58 Helenah; Name Result Normal Range
05:58 Helenah; Serum cholesterol 4.59 mmol/L < 5.01 mmol/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum HDL cholesterol level 1.6 mmol/L > 1 mmol/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum cholesterol/HDL ratio 2.9 N/A
05:58 Helenah; Bone profile:
05:58 Helenah; Name Result Normal Range
05:58 Helenah; Serum alkaline phosphatase 87 U/L 30 - 130 U/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum albumin 51 g/L 35 - 50 g/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum inorganic phosphate 1.16 mmol/L 0.8 - 1.5 mmol/L
05:58 Helenah; Serum calcium 2.44 mmol/L N/A
05:58 Helenah; Calcium adjusted level 2.37 mmol/L 2.2 - 2.6 mmol/L
05:58 phanes; ya know i was just thinking it would be good to know someone's creatinine levels on irc
05:59 whitenigga; thats right nigga
05:59 Helenah; And more
05:59 Helenah; Liver function test:
05:59 Helenah; Name Result Normal Range
05:59 Helenah; Serum total bilirubin level < 5 umol/L 0 - 21 umol/L
05:59 Helenah; Serum ALT level 21 U/L 0 - 33 U/L
05:59 Helenah; Serum gamma GT level 12 U/L 0 - 42 U/L
05:59 Helenah; Serum total protein 72 g/L 60 - 80 g/L
05:59 Helenah; And even more
05:59 Helenah; Full blood count - FBC:
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 139.33
05:59 Helenah; Name Result Normal Range
05:59 Helenah; Total white blood cell count 5.8 10*9/l 4 - 11 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Haemoglobin estimation 155 g/L 115 - 165 g/L
05:59 Helenah; Platelet count 299 10*9/l 140 - 440 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Red blood cell (RBC) count 4.99 10*12/l 3.8 - 5.8 10*12/l
05:59 Helenah; Haematocrit 0.445 Ratio 0.37 - 0.47 Ratio
05:59 Helenah; Mean corpuscular volume (MCV) 89.2 fl 82 - 98 fl
05:59 Helenah; Mean corpusc haemoglobin (MCH) 31.1 pg 27 - 32 pg
05:59 Helenah; Red blood cell distribute width 12 % 11.8 - 14 %
05:59 Helenah; Neutrophil count 3.03 10*9/l 16 - 7.5 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Lymphocyte count 1.98 10*9/l 1 - 4 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Monocyte count 0.52 10*9/l 0.2 - 1 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Eosinophil count 0.23 10*9/l 0.04 - 0.44 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Basophil count 0.04 10*9/l 0 - 0.1 10*9/l
05:59 Helenah; Nucleated red blood cell count 0 10*9/l 0 - 0.01 10*9/l
06:01 Helenah; Blueprints for a viral vector https://i.imgur.com/sQ8Eudm.png
06:01 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: ^
06:02 reptilian_thrills; /me doesnt understand this stuff
06:02 Helenah; I can explain what the viral vector does, just I do not dare.
06:02 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> my diet is eggs, english muffins, and chicken fingers <- sounds good
06:02 whitenigga; thats a lot of scientific data
06:02 Helenah; Okay I'll just say it!
06:03 Helenah; It does a DMRT1 knock out...
06:03 reptilian_thrills; thats crazy man, have you ever tried dmrt1?
06:03 reptilian_thrills; /me thinks it looks like "dmitri"
06:04 Helenah; DMRT1 (Doublesex And Mab-3 Related Transcription Factor 1) is a Protein Coding gene. Diseases associated with DMRT1 include 46,Xy Sex Reversal 4 and Germ Cell Tumor. Among its related pathways are Mammalian disorder of sexual development and Nervous system development. Gene Ontology (GO) annotations related to this gene include DNA-binding transcription factor activity and
06:04 Helenah; sequence-specific DNA binding. An important paralog of this gene is DMRTA1.
06:04 whitenigga; that sounds like some 1337 talk
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06:04 phanes; i was rading the other day that people with o blood types live longer and are healthier on average
06:04 Helenah; phanes: I'm O negative
06:04 Helenah; Let me get some data for that
06:04 phanes; same
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06:05 phanes; just wanted reptilian_thrills to know that i'll live a long time too
06:05 Helenah; Here's the data for my blood type, phanes and reptilian_thrills https://i.imgur.com/QR7wDXX.png https://i.imgur.com/mza1Ymr.png
06:06 Helenah; See?
06:06 starstreak; phanes, is that because you worship molock?
06:06 reptilian_thrills; so simple a child could do it
06:06 phanes; starstreak, no i just o- blood
06:06 starstreak; moloch*
06:07 phanes; i lucked out genetically
06:07 Helenah; The data for my red hair https://i.imgur.com/EF2RBMv.png
06:07 phanes; everyone in my family is smart, tall and strong
06:07 Helenah; I'm 5'4
06:07 Helenah; 1min I got data
06:07 phanes; im the shortest in my family and am 6'2"
06:08 whitenigga; phanes: you're really pompus dawg
06:08 Helenah; Height: 5'4
06:08 Helenah; Weight: 60 kg
06:08 Helenah; Waist: 36 inch (91.44 cm) - (Size 12, Medium)
06:08 phanes; whitenigga, yeah sorry about being objectively superior in every way you care about lol
06:08 Helenah; Bust: 40 inch (101.6 cm) - (Size 16, Large)
06:08 Helenah; Hips: 38 inch (96.52 cm) - (Size 12, Medium)
06:08 Helenah; Under Bust: 38 inch (88.9 cm)
06:08 Helenah; Inside Leg: 24 inch (Short)
06:08 Helenah; WHR: 0.95
06:08 Helenah; Cup Size: 38B
06:08 Helenah; There's the data ^
06:08 reptilian_thrills; :)
06:08 Helenah; I'm packed with data, right?
06:09 phanes; Helenah, autist?
06:09 Helenah; phanes: Yes I am!
06:09 reptilian_thrills; like marathon with peanuts
06:09 Helenah; And I recently made a discovery during research yesterday
06:09 Helenah; that I have a higher amount of dopamine transporters within my brain.
06:09 reptilian_thrills; are you a geneticist or just a crazy genius?
06:09 Helenah; I got the data
06:09 Helenah; 1min
06:09 whitenigga; phanes master race
06:09 whitenigga; sounds like a nazi
06:10 phanes; whitenigga, no just naturally well bred cattle
06:10 reptilian_thrills; i think the third reich jury was on the fence about gingers
06:10 starstreak; phanes, did the freemasons pick your parents?
06:11 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Here's the data https://files.catbox.moe/ukvv3c.jpg
06:11 Helenah; data data data
06:11 phanes; starstreak, im a 4th gen so, kinda, but not the way you're implying
06:11 Helenah; phanes: Well you are still a good model for me :3
06:11 Helenah; I'll keep you going forever! :D
06:11 starstreak; phanes, your mom was selected because of her genes and hooked up with your father because of his genes
06:12 phanes; starstreak, yeah like any other couple selects each other
06:12 starstreak; your mom was introduced to your dad at a masonic event
06:12 phanes; when your ma-maw picked great grampy for his big ole cattle prod that was gene selection
06:12 Helenah; SLC6A3 is the gene I studies.
06:12 Helenah; *studies
06:13 Helenah; I have the SLC6A3 genotype indicative of heightened dopamine transporters within the brain.
06:13 Helenah; Which I was able to come up with a solution for.
06:13 phanes; starstreak, actually though my parents met when my mom took one of my dad's classes in college
06:13 phanes; i was there
06:14 Helenah; So my ADHD medicine is vitamin D3
06:14 phanes; my mom went to high school with my biological father
06:14 Helenah; Not the stupid whiz they prescribe...
06:14 whitenigga; phanes, so your dad preys on students?
06:14 phanes; whitenigga, it was a college class and she was 21
06:14 phanes; he was 29
06:14 Helenah; Oh Fred Talbot was a biology student but a pedophile too, he was probably not only teaching sex but having the kids do it too, demonstrating to the boys have penises work by giving them blowjobs.
06:14 Helenah; *teacher
06:15 Helenah; "This is how you do a gobble with it"
06:15 Helenah; "Step 1 blah blah blah"
06:15 Helenah; lol
06:15 phanes; "an instructive snarlin'"
06:15 Helenah; "Now to use a mouse model to put it into perspective"
06:15 Helenah; lol
06:16 *Helenah shortens whitenigga's telomeres
06:16 whitenigga; Helenah: what?
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06:17 phanes; so who is whitenigga and why does he randomly alternate between brooding in silence and looking for shit to morph around into negative validation
06:17 Helenah; whitenigga: They're the caps on the ends of your chromosomes which protect your DNA from damage but they get shorter and shorter as you age until your DNA is finally broken into by the environment.
06:17 phanes; i heard NDA+ is good for telomeres but i question the science now
06:17 Helenah; Cause I shortened them, you will probably only live until the age of 40, at the age of 40, you will look 80.
06:18 Helenah; phanes: Do NOT try to make them last longer!
06:18 Helenah; Just be healthy...
06:18 phanes; i took it for like 2 years
06:18 Helenah; Any science claiming to make them last longer could be pseudoscience or something properly researched, it may even have an opposite effect shortening your lifespan...
06:18 phanes; i have to admit i haven't been as healthy since
06:19 Helenah; Even Radiotherapy shortens the telomeres, that equates to premature aging
06:19 Helenah; faster aging
06:19 Helenah; looking older than your actual years
06:19 Helenah; And so you die earlier
06:19 phanes; i got lucky on that
06:19 whitenigga; phanes: cuz im whitenigga dawg
06:19 Helenah; What happens if you delete 100% of your genome? Google won't give you the answer but I know it.
06:19 phanes; whitenigga, you nobody, stfu
06:19 Helenah; Your body turns necrotic as it can no longer maintain itself
06:19 Helenah; It basically just... rots away, you get blood poisoning
06:19 Helenah; followed by multi organ failure
06:20 whitenigga; phanes: why u gotta be so rude dawg
06:20 Helenah; it's a very painful death then you die
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06:20 Helenah; whitenigga: Why you got to say "dawg", dawg?
06:21 phanes; i think he's just needing some attention
06:21 phanes; nobody using the name "whitenigga" isn't trying to signal
06:21 whitenigga; Helenah: thats the way i talk yo
06:21 phanes; a cry for help, really
06:23 DaemonFC; Comcast says expect downtime on Wednesday while they "upgrade" their system.
06:23 phanes; anyway whitenigga so what do you do? are you like a sociologist or something
06:24 whitenigga; i work in IT dawg and i also DJ on the side
06:24 whitenigga; my trunk is full of mad albumz yo
06:24 phanes; whitenigga, what do you do in IT
06:24 whitenigga; systems admin
06:25 whitenigga; a bit of help desk too
06:25 phanes; that's a rough life yo
06:25 whitenigga; "did you try turning it off and back on again?"
06:26 phanes; how long have you been doing it
06:26 whitenigga; 11 years
06:26 phanes; and youre still in helpdesk
06:27 whitenigga; systems admin mostly
06:27 whitenigga; not the same job for 11 years
06:27 Helenah; "did you try turning it off and back on again?" How old are your customers? They sound like they're 90 years old....
06:27 whitenigga; they're doctors
06:27 phanes; no you wouldn't believe how dumb corporate users are Helenah
06:27 Helenah; "doctors"...
06:27 Helenah; oh
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06:28 phanes; nothing like getting an escalation all the way to c-suite that ends in a screenshare only to find out the problem is the user forgot their fuckin password
06:29 Helenah; Thing is, everything that can be solved with a reboot can be solved by avoiding the reboot but resorting to a reboot is only a workaround and the problem will come back at some point.
06:29 whitenigga; some einstein thought it would be a good idea to give 80 year old doctors a surface pro with super tiny text
06:29 Helenah; So you haven't really supported your customers properly, have you, whitenigga?
06:29 Helenah; You just told them how to work around an issue but you didn't fix it, did you?
06:29 Helenah; So you're as dumb fucked as they are!
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06:29 phanes; most sysadmin stuff can be automated but the people who could and would do that get bogged down by the riff raff that climb out of that cesspool
06:30 Helenah; Lets say I'm talking to a mechanic...
06:30 phanes; the whole "reboot it" thing is a decent workaround for some issues when you dont have access to the product source code, and often you don't
06:30 Helenah; I'm not simply going to go on about RAM and CPUs cause it will confuse them...
06:30 Helenah; So what I do is I change the wording slightly to represent car parts
06:30 Helenah; and then they get a better understanding and more confident with what they're dealing with then.
06:30 Helenah; No joke
06:31 Helenah; It works
06:32 Helenah; phanes: That's fair enough but most "reboot it" cases, that's not the issue and can be fixed properly.
06:33 Helenah; For example most people who run an OS of the desktop market run Windows and will install loads of crap on there and end up with loads of malware and shit and also screw up their registry.
06:34 Helenah; And this can be fixed without a reboot, without a reinstall in most cases.
06:34 Helenah; This is the most likely thing the customer has done wrong is screwed up their own system.
06:34 Helenah; And it's just a case of cleaning up all that mess.
06:35 phanes; when i was in that space most of my environments were too locked down for that
06:35 Helenah; Thin clients or something?
06:35 Helenah; deep freeze?
06:35 phanes; no i just learned how gpo worked and has DSS to rely on
06:35 phanes; *had
06:35 Helenah; The college I studied at, a simple reboot would wipe a virus off the systems.
06:35 Helenah; It was hilarious
06:36 phanes; you can hella lock a windows machine down with group policy
06:36 Helenah; you could infect the whole college and they'd only have to reboot all the systems...
06:36 Helenah; no joke
06:36 Helenah; and the systems would come back up with a clean slate. :D
06:36 Helenah; That's how resiliant they had their setup.
06:36 phanes; yeah netboot is cool
06:36 Helenah; It would never defrag
06:36 Helenah; phanes: It was deep freeze
06:37 Helenah; Basically the system always has a shadow copy which is copied to make a main copy, on reboot, the main copy is wiped and recreated from the shadow.
06:37 Helenah; That's how their systems worked, they weren't even thin clients, they had disks.
06:37 phanes; my college wasn't anywhere near that thought out
06:37 phanes; they would tie peoples' real names to their pre-registered mac addresses
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06:37 phanes; and would take disciplinary action purely on that
06:37 phanes; we had a field day with it
06:37 Helenah; Even WannaCry held them ransom, they simply rebooted and WannaCry was gone.
06:38 Helenah; While the Government was struggling
06:38 Helenah; You had doctors and nurses paying it just so they could continue helping patients who urgently needed care right away.
06:38 Helenah; It was horrible
06:38 Helenah; but yeah college was WannaCry infectable and WannaCry resiliant at the same time. :D
06:39 DaemonFC; I'm a really "see good in bad" kind of a guy though.
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06:39 DaemonFC; When I was going bungie jumping, I scheduled something really unpleasant for a few weeks after.
06:39 DaemonFC; That way if the cord snapped, at least I didn't have to do that other thing.
06:40 phanes; it was especially fun on that lan because not only did they assume who you were based on your mac address but they would assign your rdns to contain that name, so you could literally just dump a list of names and associated mac addresses, we had written software by the end of it that could boot people off or take over their connection as them
06:40 Helenah; phanes: Not only that but how they were installing their systems was they'd simply dd this image to the HDD and stick it inside the machine simple as that.
06:40 phanes; yeah sounds like tftp based
06:41 Helenah; There was no tftp
06:41 Helenah; there was no PXE
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06:41 Helenah; There was no netboot of any kind
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06:42 Helenah; The image they dd to the HDD is a system that has a shadow copy of windows, when the system is turned on, a main copy of that shadow is created on the HDD and the main copy is booted
06:42 Helenah; Upon next start up or next shut down that old main is wiped and re-created from the shadow
06:42 Helenah; That's literally it, phanes
06:43 Helenah; So if virus infects main Windows system then it's only destroyed later on when replaced with the shadow.
06:43 phanes; hrm
06:44 Helenah; And they couldn't install software on them, they would have to create a new image then dd that image to the HDD of each system
06:44 Helenah; Actually it could be installed but next reboot would wipe it
06:45 Helenah; The systems that weren't very secure were the kiosk systems in the library.
06:45 Helenah; The damn login manager and session manager was wrote in delphi.
06:45 Helenah; It was the same setup but the extra software was those managers
06:46 Helenah; So custom login screen, once in your session is on a countdown then it kicks you out
06:46 Helenah; But if you booked in at this booking system, you could set for longer time, the default for half hour.
06:46 starstreak; linucks
06:46 Helenah; It would tell you which computer your session is allocated to you and when you could use it, so it gave date and time.
06:47 Helenah; But you wanna know what I discovered?
06:47 Helenah; While it's busy logging in...
06:47 Helenah; pull the ethernet cable, it drops you into local admin account.
06:47 Helenah; Why? Because the custom login screen was started as local admin which is stupid.
06:47 Helenah; and it had bugs like that
06:48 Helenah; and you could also kill the session manager once logged in with Task Manager, that also brought you into the admin account too.
06:48 Helenah; I actually reported it because I'm not an arse.
06:48 Helenah; I knew how to fix it
06:49 Helenah; They just needed to do a regedit to change the binary used for login to the one of the custom login, that way Windows would've just started the login manager directly instead of as a user and there would be no account to down into then.
06:49 Helenah; winlogin.exe is the default binary which you'd change to the executable of your login manager.
06:50 phanes; yeah that'd do it
06:50 Helenah; The college was stupid, this physician who was supposed to have retired was offered a new career path within the college, working as network manager
06:50 Helenah; and he was enthused by it and took it without having a single fuck about what to do
06:50 Helenah; and he basically patched an infrastructure together...
06:51 Helenah; naming servers ridiculous names like polonium.campus.local, cadmium.campus.local, plutonium.campus.local and so on.
06:51 Helenah; I mean't physicist
06:53 Helenah; So in the end he had a very late retirement
06:53 Helenah; But he shouldn't have taken that job...
06:53 Helenah; There was no training offered or anything and he took it... :/
06:54 Helenah; Nice guy though, really nice guy! :D
06:55 Helenah; The deep freeze stuff though, it was robust, no joke!
06:55 Helenah; And for some reason he was keeping a personal vintage machine running on a KVM switch within the damn server room. LOL
06:55 Helenah; It was running Windows 95
06:56 Helenah; And he wrote scripts to add student network drives via MS-DOS prompt, WTF
06:56 Helenah; That sounds dodgy if you ask me...
06:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Did you see those "hologram booths" Google was showing off?
06:58 Helenah; DaemonFC: starstreak saw you playing with your chest hair while you were proud that you ate plenty of white bread for it.
06:58 DaemonFC; WTF does that even mean?
06:58 Helenah; Have you never heard the saying that bread crust puts hairs on your chest? It's actually bullshit but funny.
06:59 DaemonFC; No, I haven't.
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06:59 DaemonFC; Apparently there's a Windows 11 VM image that is 20 GB compressed.
06:59 Helenah; It was one of those things you tell kids to get them to eat their food.
07:00 starstreak; <Helenah> It was running Windows 95 <- i got windows 3.11 working on the internet
07:00 Helenah; So in this case it's used against boys who claim to dislike breast crust.
07:00 Helenah; starstreak: That's fine but on a college network is not.
07:00 DaemonFC; Honestly, I could have probably just done one up using that Virtual XP mode.
07:00 DaemonFC; Assuming IE 8 would still connect to Walmart's Web server. Probably not.
07:01 Helenah; You shouldn't be using IE 8!!!
07:01 Helenah; o.O
07:01 Helenah; That's... old...
07:01 DaemonFC; I know.
07:01 DaemonFC; I only needed to connect to one Web site and then close the fucking thing.
07:01 Helenah; So stop using it then and stop making excuses to use it...
07:01 DaemonFC; The only other way to load it is go to the HR office, which I can't because I'm not him.
07:02 DaemonFC; So we had to load it on my computer somehow.
07:02 Helenah; You're doing something without someone elses consent? That's terrible man...
07:02 DaemonFC; No, he was here with me.
07:02 DaemonFC; He logged in.
07:02 Helenah; So why can't he go to the HR office then?
07:02 DaemonFC; I can't.
07:02 Helenah; Or at least look for a way in which you can do it on his behalf?
07:03 Helenah; I said "he"
07:03 Helenah; not "you"
07:03 DaemonFC; I was looking at his benefit options and seeing what we needed for the next year.
07:03 DaemonFC; Yes, when you're married it gets weird.
07:03 Helenah; You could've jeopardised his privacy... :/
07:03 DaemonFC; Because sometimes they need your dental, but you need their vision and health insurance, or something.
07:03 Helenah; phanes: I'm right here in what I'm saying, right?
07:04 DaemonFC; Well, IE 11 connected to the site and worked.
07:04 Helenah; If there is an IE 8 backdoor then you could've just given information to some man in the middle...
07:04 DaemonFC; You're right! Walmart should stop using an ActiveX control for the beneficiary page!
07:05 DaemonFC; This is obviously some old relic that they built 20 years ago and never replaced.
07:06 *phanes shrugs
07:06 phanes; im not in windowsland
07:06 phanes; been a long time since ive needed to be
07:06 Helenah; "Microsoft warns of hole in Video ActiveX control"
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07:06 Helenah; Even Microsoft themselves are saying that it has a hole...
07:06 Helenah; So Walmart are clearly even ignoring the vender of the OS on their machines...
07:07 phanes; its prob more simpler that they just are really slow to change what systems they use
07:07 DaemonFC; Yes, because they instruct you to access it in IE Mode on Edge.
07:07 phanes; they were still using mainframes until like 8 years ago or so
07:07 Helenah; "ActiveX is a deprecated software framework created by Microsoft that adapts its earlier Component Object Model (COM) and Object Linking and Embedding (OLE)"
07:07 DaemonFC; The only problem is that since GNU/Linux doesn't have Internet Explorer, Edge on "Linux" has no IE Mode.
07:07 Helenah; Wikipedia notes that it's deprecated.
07:08 phanes; you can run ie in wine
07:08 Helenah; I don't know, you could have unknowingly given information about that guy to someone else.
07:08 DaemonFC; As part of Windows 11, IE will be patched until 2029.
07:08 DaemonFC; But only to address security holes.
07:08 Helenah; Surely that's a valid reason to just boycott walmart, tell him to boycott walmart man!
07:08 Helenah; It isn't worth the risk
07:08 Helenah; seriously
07:08 phanes; their embedded ie product is also still supported
07:08 DaemonFC; And to keep it able to connect to HTTPS sites.
07:08 Helenah; I'm not kidding here...
07:09 phanes; these companies have gotten so big that boycotts wont work
07:09 phanes; the only thing that'll really teach them are red teams
07:09 Helenah; phanes: I wasn't meaning it for that reason
07:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, literally all IE Mode does is embed Trident on the Chromium Edge shell instead of the Internet Explorer shell.
07:09 Helenah; I'm meaning it to avoid handing information unknowingly to other people
07:09 Helenah; DaemonFC is using backdoored software to access a Walmart website...
07:10 DaemonFC; So you're basically using IE, vulnerabilities and all, in Internet Explorer mode.
07:10 Helenah; and he's doing it on behalf of someone else.
07:10 DaemonFC; It's not just a "Mode" that pretends to be IE, it's IE.
07:10 Helenah; Which could land DaemonFC in shit...
07:10 Helenah; if that other persons data gets abused by some third person...
07:10 Helenah; I'm not kidding!!!!!!
07:10 DaemonFC; Walmart's application is written for IE.
07:11 DaemonFC; And you MUST use it or you can't set your beneficiaries.
07:11 phanes; hippa laws only apply to orgs that handle medical data
07:11 Helenah; It shouldn't be wrote for IE, it should be wrote for the major web browsers...
07:11 DaemonFC; The only difference if you access it at work is you open MSIE and load it there instead.
07:11 Helenah; It's just a damn beneficiary website man...
07:11 Helenah; It doesn't need to be IE-specific
07:11 DaemonFC; Yeah, tell that to the Borg.
07:11 Helenah; I'm telling it to you...
07:12 Helenah; because you're the one inputting someone elses credentials into backdoored software...
07:12 DaemonFC; There are no paper forms.
07:12 Helenah; and you will be in big trouble if those credentials get into the wrong hands...
07:12 Helenah; And you excuse your behaviour...
07:12 Helenah; and it's not fair on that other person...
07:12 Helenah; You need a damn reality check...
07:12 DaemonFC; His credentials already are in the wrong hands. We had to lock his credit reports and put fraud alerts on them.
07:13 DaemonFC; When his sister tried to take out a million dollar life insurance policy last year.
07:13 DaemonFC; And told them it was him applying, and signed his name.
07:13 Helenah; That's his sister though and so you know who it is
07:13 Helenah; I'm talking someone who you most likely will never know who they are
07:13 DaemonFC; Yeah, the police refused to do anything because she's got money.
07:13 Helenah; and that you have made it easy for them to obtain credentials
07:13 Helenah; via entering them into backdoored software...
07:14 DaemonFC; Most of the benefits sites work fine in other browsers.
07:14 phanes; usually with shit like that you have to have an attorney raise hell in the DA's office and involve bar association complaints
07:14 DaemonFC; I can access their main benefits site and the bank that manages the 401(k) and the life, health, and disability insurance companies in any browser.
07:14 Helenah; What benefits is this anyway?
07:15 Helenah; It's not Government welfare because if it was, Walmart wouldn't be managing it.
07:15 DaemonFC; Walmart employee stuff. Their internal network is a complete mess.
07:15 Helenah; oh
07:15 DaemonFC; Part of it is "modern" Microshit stuff.
07:15 DaemonFC; But that one damned page is IE-only.
07:15 Helenah; They should look for a new job to protect their own data...
07:15 phanes; yeah azure is one of biggest ripoffs ive ever seen
07:16 phanes; its basically just a big siphon for money from unsuspecting clients
07:16 DaemonFC; No other job like this has these benefits though.
07:16 Helenah; So benefits comes before data?
07:16 DaemonFC; I didn't want to tell his friend that works at Jewel (for forty years) but, they have a union over there and he doesn't get a 6% 401(k) match.
07:16 DaemonFC; It's only 4%.
07:16 Helenah; Believe me, he'd be in less mess with less benefits than he would if he had his data stolen...
07:16 DaemonFC; Can you believe that?
07:17 Helenah; Damn
07:17 DaemonFC; Lousy union.
07:17 Helenah; Anyway, I have warned you and I do hope you relay to your friend.
07:17 DaemonFC; Didn't even get them a contract with benefits like Walmart.
07:17 Helenah; I'll say no more.
07:17 Helenah; but I did warn you...
07:18 DaemonFC; I told schestowitz[TR2] that it annoys me that Walmart tries to add 1% from the employee each year without asking.
07:18 DaemonFC; And you have to go in and reverse that every year.
07:18 DaemonFC; We've already maxed out the match and the IRS tax credits.
07:18 Helenah; You have working tax credits there?
07:18 Helenah; Interesting
07:19 DaemonFC; Everything on top of that would be (a) our money only and (b) no tax benefits and (c) exposed to stock market risk.
07:19 Helenah; The UK scrapped it I heard but lol my life is different so I'm naive to that.
07:19 DaemonFC; (c) applies to all of it, but it at least comes with matches and tax credits.
07:19 DaemonFC; So you'd have to see a 75% stock market drop to lose money.
07:19 DaemonFC; (ish)
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07:20 DaemonFC; I mostly maxed out his 401(k) to get the match and the tax breaks.
07:20 Helenah; loss doesn't always have a deep effect on you though, it depends how big the loss is...
07:21 Helenah; and how much you get overall
07:21 DaemonFC; I deducted us down to like <$40 of federal income tax last year.
07:21 DaemonFC; Our 2024 tax for the 2023 tax year will probably see us owing nothing.
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07:22 DaemonFC; I signed up for a bunch of insurances that are part of Section 125 of the Internal Revenue Code.
07:22 DaemonFC; So it's all pre-tax money buying the insurance.
07:22 Helenah; phanes: And me? I don't have any insurances. :D
07:22 DaemonFC; Then if something bad happens and it's a covered peril, the insurance pays out and you don't pay taxes on the payout.
07:22 DaemonFC; I took $20,000 worth of critical illness insurance on both of us.
07:23 DaemonFC; Starting next year, like, if the doctor comes up and says I have cancer or something, then his insurance through work has to cut us a check for $20,000 right there, and the IRS can't touch a penny of it.
07:23 Helenah; Woah that sounds complicated... o.O
07:24 Helenah; critical illness insurance? So there is nothing called Healthcare insurance that covers healthcare in general?
07:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, and the premiums on that for an entire year are only $50 each, and it comes out of pre-tax dollars.
07:24 Helenah; Obviously with different Healthcare insurance policies too.
07:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, so it's more like AFLAC, but it's not through them.
07:24 DaemonFC; Allstate sold us that plan.
07:24 Helenah; Is it like an Employment insurance where like
07:24 Helenah; if you fall out of work due to critical illness
07:24 Helenah; you're paid for?
07:24 DaemonFC; You fall down the stairs, you get money from the accident insurance plan.
07:24 Helenah; like sick pay
07:24 Helenah; Ah!
07:25 DaemonFC; Like, they hand you $2,500 to help pay for ER bills and $500 to help you pay for a walking cast, and stuff.
07:25 DaemonFC; So the accident part, right?
07:25 DaemonFC; It's like an umbrella plan.
07:25 DaemonFC; It helps pay what your major medical doesn't.
07:25 DaemonFC; Critical Illness is something else.
07:26 Helenah; So not what I was thinking then but Germany have something called Healthcare insurance where like if you fell down the stairs at work or something else where you're ill health and can't work for a period of time, the Employment insurance covers you with like sick pay.
07:26 DaemonFC; It's basically like, cash that goes right to you (like accident insurance does) but you can spend it on anything.
07:26 Helenah; Ah
07:26 Helenah; *Employment insurance
07:26 DaemonFC; There's some brochures I saw.
07:26 DaemonFC; It's actually very cheap for what the covered perils pay out.
07:26 Helenah; UK works differently though
07:27 DaemonFC; Accident insurance covers hundreds of accidents and there's a payout for each.
07:27 DaemonFC; And it's only 35 cents per week.
07:27 Helenah; The US makes the UK system look basic but it's still a scatterfuck. :D
07:27 phanes; they should just have hospitals bill the government directly
07:27 DaemonFC; There's also Accidental Death or Dismemberment.
07:27 DaemonFC; So I got that for him, they wouldn't cover Spouse.
07:28 Helenah; In the UK, it's down to the employer to give you sick pay if you fall ill for a while.
07:28 DaemonFC; But it pays me if he dies in an accident or gets seriously maimed.
07:28 Helenah; Other than that you end up falling onto er... Universal Credit
07:28 Helenah; which is some universal benefit umbrella thing
07:28 Helenah; you end up with the job seeking element, this is where it gets confusing
07:28 DaemonFC; And he's got life insurance, and so do I, and I set each of us at the beneficiary for the other's plan.
07:29 Helenah; cause you can be put into a "support group" with this element where you don't have to look for work
07:29 Helenah; and the money you get is yours
07:29 DaemonFC; <Helenah> In the UK, it's down to the employer to give you sick pay if you fall ill for a while.
07:29 DaemonFC; Walmart has Standard Short Term Disability and you get that by working there.
07:29 Helenah; Yep the UK system is weird and difficult to explain
07:29 Helenah; Told you if was scattery
07:29 DaemonFC; It covers 50% of your pay for up to 6 months if you can't go into work.
07:29 Helenah; Ah
07:29 DaemonFC; But you can add to it with Enhanced Short Term Disability for an additional premium.
07:30 DaemonFC; Which I just did, because pre-tax dollars and cheap.
07:30 DaemonFC; It bumps it to 60%.
07:30 DaemonFC; And then I just bought Enhanced Long-Term Disability too.
07:30 Helenah; Well at least you got options cause like...
07:30 Helenah; you don't wanna have illness meaning falling right on your knees
07:30 DaemonFC; It goes through another insurance company and takes over indefinitely as long as you can't work at 60%.
07:30 Helenah; and ending up without a job and homeless and can't feed
07:30 Helenah; So that's good
07:31 DaemonFC; But he had to take a health question form for that.
07:31 DaemonFC; So they're in the decision-making process right now.
07:31 DaemonFC; Can't see why the E-LTD plan wouldn't be approved though.
07:31 Helenah; phanes, DaemonFC, There's this really nice multi-billion GBP company here.
07:31 DaemonFC; It's good to look at what insurances are available and how they affect your taxes.
07:32 Helenah; Which has like a fuckton of benefits, I counted 20
07:32 Helenah; Like they were in the news cause
07:32 DaemonFC; I also signed us both up for Vision Insurance through his work.
07:32 Helenah; This guys wife fell ill with cancer
07:32 DaemonFC; $1.25 a week for each of us, and it covers an exam every year, and a pair of eyeglasses. $4 for the exam, $4 for glasses.
07:32 Helenah; So the company just said "You don't have to come to work, spent time with your wife until she dies, you get full pay and we'll add a bonus on top to support her"
07:32 Helenah; And they didn't even get rid of him.
07:33 DaemonFC; Yeah, the US has the Family Medical Leave Act.
07:33 DaemonFC; It forces your employer to give you a medical leave of absence, but it's unpaid.
07:33 Helenah; Well this is rare in the UK, extremely rare.
07:33 Helenah; That company wasn't obliged to do it
07:33 DaemonFC; So if you don't have disability insurance, you're broke and you're in trouble.
07:33 Helenah; Nor did they have a system in place for what they did for him and his wife.
07:34 Helenah; They just simply did it
07:34 DaemonFC; You can take off with FMLA if you're a covered employee and an immediate family member needs you to care for them.
07:34 Helenah; It's wonderful when you have multi-billion GBP capitalists who actually care about the welbeing of others
07:34 Helenah; instead of just trampling all over them to get richer
07:34 Helenah; They're rare too
07:34 DaemonFC; They never tell you about this at work.
07:34 Helenah; but they're true genuine anthropologists.
07:34 DaemonFC; They don't want people to know. So few people know they can take FMLA and the law won't let them get in trouble for using it.
07:35 Helenah; UK is the same I hear
07:35 Helenah; in that for example
07:35 DaemonFC; I had to explain it to one of Mandy's co-workers at Walmart who needed a leave of absense for a hip surgery.
07:35 Helenah; the job centres won't tell you about a lot of things available to you
07:35 DaemonFC; I said "Use the Family Medical Leave Act!".
07:35 Helenah; such as work programmes
07:35 Helenah; and you've to specifically ask what options are on the table before they disclose the list.
07:35 Helenah; It's ridiculous...
07:36 DaemonFC; The business groups were lobbying Congress and Clinton to not pass FMLA.
07:36 DaemonFC; Then he signed it and my mom had to use it due to complications from giving birth to my brother the same year!
07:36 DaemonFC; After she voted for Bush.
07:36 DaemonFC; The hospital didn't know about it because it was a month old when she used it.
07:37 DaemonFC; And they were threatening to fire her for taking a medical leave because of this.
07:37 Helenah; Crazy healthcare systems you got there then
07:37 Helenah; The state healthcare system here knows about Government stuff right away.
07:37 DaemonFC; Well, this was back in 1993.
07:38 DaemonFC; Clinton signed it in February and mom had to take a FMLA leave in May of the same year.
07:38 Helenah; Even in 1993, they knew right away though... o.o
07:38 DaemonFC; And the hospital HR was PISSED.
07:38 DaemonFC; They had to hold her job until she could come back 5 months later.
07:38 DaemonFC; I remember that well.
07:38 Helenah; Yeah, they probably won't like that.
07:38 DaemonFC; Nearly half a year, mom was home with us.
07:39 Helenah; So how do they hold the job?
07:39 Helenah; Do they have someone work it?
07:39 Helenah; To be honest, that's weird if so...
07:39 Helenah; It's not really a proper solution if so.
07:39 DaemonFC; They have to promise you'll have a job making the same pay and benefits you would have had you stayed, and they have to give you full time.
07:39 DaemonFC; So it would mean if there was nothing in the Pediatrics unit, she may have had to come back and work as an ICU nurse.
07:39 DaemonFC; But there would be a job.
07:40 Helenah; UK has something not quite the same.
07:40 DaemonFC; It only covers employers of a certain number of people.
07:40 Helenah; It's called "bank work"
07:40 Helenah; but basically lets say you fall seriously ill
07:40 Helenah; and so you lose your job
07:40 Helenah; You can see on hospital websites for bank work
07:40 Helenah; which is basically where they take you on doing things in the hospital
07:41 Helenah; But the work has to be available too
07:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, there's another federal law that says they have to hold your job if you're in the National Guard and called up.
07:42 DaemonFC; Most laws that say you get time off and they can't do shit about it don't give you that many reasons. Like, they can't hold it against you if it's jury duty or something.
07:42 Helenah; https://www.nhsprofessionals.nhs.uk/joining-nhsp
07:42 Helenah; It mentions people already professionals
07:43 Helenah; but...
07:43 Helenah; I've heard of people go through say cancer treatment
07:43 DaemonFC; For COVID, it's now just company policy. Like, Mandy had to take two days off due to vaccine side effects this past week.
07:43 DaemonFC; And they cleared the attendance points.
07:43 Helenah; and be able to get bank work that requires no qualifications
07:43 DaemonFC; But we decided to save his PPTO hours.
07:43 DaemonFC; Those are like Gold.
07:44 DaemonFC; As long as you don't run out of PPTO to cover time away that's unexcused, you don't get points for it.
07:44 DaemonFC; So he's got like 60 of those right now I think.
07:44 DaemonFC; Then when you run out of PPTO, you can still call in, but every day is a point. If you get 4.5 attendance points, they fire you. They fall off 6 months after you accrue a point.
07:45 DaemonFC; If you clock in late, you get a half a point, so you might as well just go ahead and take a half day if you want.
07:45 DaemonFC; But the half point only applies if you clock in more than 6 minutes after your shift start.
07:46 DaemonFC; So if your shift starts at 6 AM, you have until 6:06 AM to clock in before you get half a point.
07:46 DaemonFC; I never told Mandy that's the policy.
07:46 DaemonFC; I don't want him to go "Oh I can just drag my feet getting out the door. It's fine!".
07:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], If you believe the US CDC about taking the flu shot and COVID booster at the same time, you can, but there's an 11% higher risk of moderate and severe side effects than had you just taken one, followed by the other a few weeks later.
07:48 DaemonFC; So they admit they're giving advice that's less ideal than just waiting three weeks between flu and COVID shots.
07:49 DaemonFC; I took my flu shot in September 9th and came back for the COVID shot on October 6th.
07:49 DaemonFC; I expected that flu would pick up before COVID. That certainly looks to be what's happening.
07:50 DaemonFC; What happens in the northern hemisphere flu season is usually similar to what just happened in the southern hemisphere.
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08:03 TR News; "To design the schematic and PCB, I used Altium designer 22 and installed the missing component libraries using Altiums..." https://www.pcbway.com/blog/technology/Temperature_Humidity_Control_Unit_Using_a_Raspberry_Pi_Pico_66fdee4a.html |
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08:05 TR News; [Old] "When I give a keynote address at a conference, I sometimes commission* and post a transcript or a near-transcript afterwards (example)." https://harihareswara.net/posts/2021/if-you-give-a-speech-you-care-about-post-a-transcript/ | Source: Sumana Harihareswara
08:05 TR Bot; If You Give A Speech You Care About, Post A Transcript | Cogito, Ergo Sumana
08:05 TR News; AirTags https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/travel/lufthansa-apple-airtags-luggage.html | Source: New York Times
08:05 TR Bot; Lufthansa Says Apple AirTags Are Once Again Allowed in Checked Bags - The New York Times
08:05 TR News; "Student-monitoring software has come under renewed scrutiny over the course of the Covid-19 pandemic." https://www.wired.com/story/student-monitoring-software-privacy-in-schools/ | Source: Wired
08:05 TR Bot; Are Back in Classrooms and Laptops Are Still Spying on Them | WIRED
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08:11 Helenah; phanes, schestowitz[TR], LOL!
08:11 Helenah; This question someone asked
08:11 Helenah; "My 15-year-old daughter randomly stapled her mouth shut and I had to take her to the hospital. I asked her why she did it and she said she didnt know. What should I do now?"
08:11 Helenah; And this answer! :D
08:11 Helenah; "According to other questions you have posted, you are 13, or 16, or 17, or 18, as well as being a 22 year old homeless stripper. Even assuming the oldest of those claimed ages to be true, having a 15 year old child is stretching credulity beyond breaking point.
08:11 Helenah; I think that it is safe to say that all the scenarios you present are fictitious.
08:11 Helenah; "
08:12 phanes; maybe she's a time traveler
08:12 Helenah; :D
08:12 phanes; sounds awfully transtemporalphobic to me
08:12 Helenah; And this answer too!
08:12 Helenah; "Perhaps make up more stories about the other children you claim to have. I think you should consider not reproducing any more. The kids you have dont seem to be very smart."
08:12 Helenah; lol
08:13 Helenah; "Wait, your 15 year old daughter stapled her mouth shut? A lot of parents might look at that as a blessing! (Don't hate me folks, a bullshit question deserves a bullshit answer.)"
08:14 TR News; "The result, announced by the National Labor Relations Board on Friday night, suggests that an initial victory by a union at a store" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/14/business/economy/apple-store-union-oklahoma-city.html | Source: New York Times
08:14 TR Bot; Apple Store in Oklahoma City Becomes Second to Unionize - The New York Times
08:15 Helenah; phanes: I'm contemplating advising her to replace the stapler with toy one so that she can save on hospital expenses. :D
08:17 phanes; kid needs prob needs a therapist. sounds like compulsive behaviour.
08:18 TR News; Microsoft's HoloLens Headsets are Giving US Army Testers Nausea - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/13/1728244 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/13/1728244
08:18 TR Bot; Microsoft's HoloLens Headsets are Giving US Army Testers Nausea - SoylentNews
08:19 TR News; "Linux is the least popular mainstream operating system. Unlike its main competitors, Linux is free and open source" https://www.unixmen.com/tools-for-linux-users-to-not-miss-out-on/ | Source: Unix Men
08:19 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/tools-for-linux-users-to-not-miss-out-on/ )
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 Helenah; But they also asked this... "I have a 9-year-old daughter who keeps hooking up with boys aged 13-15. What do I do?"
08:20 Helenah; And this "I found an inappropriate toy in my 17 year old daughters room. I had a talk with her and questioned her and now she wont talk to me. What do I do?"
08:21 Helenah; And this "A 16 year old boy gave my 15 year old daughter pot and she had to be rushed to the ER, should I report this to the police?"
08:22 TR News; "RPi4-2GB @ 1.8Ghz, debian lite, xfce - spare, was general purpose desktop but i found it a bit slow. i don't find 2GB enough for desktop use." gemini://gemini.mingmengtou.org/2022-10-16-sbc-inventory.gmi
08:22 DaemonFC; "Inappropriate toy" "17 year old".
08:22 DaemonFC; LOL
08:22 Helenah; phanes: Sounds ridiculous, right?
08:22 TR News; Niemann sucks, but Chess.com and Magnus are the real villains gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/magnus-chesscom.gmi
08:22 DaemonFC; I had sex toys when I was 15.
08:23 DaemonFC; I was ordering them out of catalogs.
08:23 Helenah; And every question is like "My blah year old son/daughter did blah, what do I do?" LOL
08:23 Helenah; All the way through
08:23 TR News; Kentucky Streisand Effect https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/14/kentucky-judge-streisands-story-about-him-failing-to-wear-pants-at-work-into-wide-coverage/ | Source: Techdirt
08:23 Helenah; If I was to stick a pound in a pot for every child I count she's got, I'd be rich...
08:23 TR Bot; Judge Streisands Story About Him Failing To Wear Pants At Work Into Wide Coverage | Techdirt
08:23 DaemonFC; I ordered some cigars off the Web when I was 16.
08:24 DaemonFC; I had to sign a promise that neither one of us would use tobacco next year. Or vaping products.
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08:24 DaemonFC; There's higher insurance premiums if you do for the stuff that pays for covered medical events.
08:24 Helenah; "I caught my 20 year old daughter smoking a cigarette so I made her smoke a cigar knowing she'd choke on it to teach her a lesson, what more needs to be done to make sure the lesson is well taught?" < My fake question :D
08:25 DaemonFC; Most teenagers tried cigarettes when I was a teenager.
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08:25 DaemonFC; I was a kid stealing them from people's cars who left the windows rolled down.
08:25 DaemonFC; And the big cigarette display at the supermarket.
08:25 DaemonFC; They didn't lock them up back then. Nobody was watching them.
08:26 Helenah; Actually my mother did just that to my sister, she was caught smoking a cig so my mother gave her a cig and made her smoke it to which she choked and my mother said "You can't smoke it all, can you? That's cause it's bad for your health, don't do it again"
08:26 TR News; How a Secret Rent Algorithm Pushes Rents Higher https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent | Source: Pro Publica
08:26 TR Bot; How a Secret Rent Algorithm Pushes Rents Higher ProPublica
08:26 Helenah; I found it a harsh way of teaching that to be honest...
08:26 DaemonFC; Yeah.
08:27 DaemonFC; I'm just glad I never made a regular thing of it.
08:27 TR News; "Sites like The Pirate Bay are recognized for their unique branding but in today's pirate streaming sector" https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-sites-that-rip-off-other-pirate-sites-branding-are-about-to-regret-it-221015/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:27 TR Bot; Sites That Rip-Off Other Pirate Sites' Branding Are About to Regret It * TorrentFreak
08:27 TR News; "RCN's request to dismiss a piracy liability lawsuit filed by several filmmakers has been denied by a New Jersey federal court." https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-repeat-infringer-lawsuit-against-isp-rcn-can-move-forward-221015/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:27 TR Bot; Repeat Infringer Lawsuit Against ISP RCN Can Move Forward * TorrentFreak
08:27 Helenah; If she was my own daughter and not my sister, I would've sat her down and spoke to her properly about the harm cigarettes do and why she shouldn't be smoking them.
08:27 Helenah; I wouldn't fuckin' force a damn cig onto her
08:28 Helenah; it's just giving her a taste for it even more.
08:28 Helenah; Plus the trauma it would've caused is uncalled for.
08:28 Helenah; lol
08:28 DaemonFC; My mom's parents made her chain smoke the rest of the pack until she went in the bathroom and threw up.
08:28 DaemonFC; She said she never picked up a cigarette again.
08:28 Helenah; Oh dear
08:28 Helenah; Just cause it worked though doesn't make it right...
08:29 DaemonFC; She said when she was a teenager, she had a figure, but my aunt was overweight.
08:29 DaemonFC; And my grandparents were always yelling at my aunt for eating too much.
08:30 DaemonFC; One day, my aunt drank six of those 8 ounce bottles of Coke and she came running to my mom going "I don't know what to do. I drank all of them and mom and dad are going to be home any minute now!".
08:31 TR News; Oklahoma https://truthout.org/articles/apple-workers-in-oklahoma-city-vote-to-unionize-second-us-store/ | Source: TruthOut
08:31 TR Bot; Apple Workers in Oklahoma City Vote to Unionize Second US Store
08:31 DaemonFC; So they came home and noticed that the pack of Coke they bought with the groceries was gone and started to yell at my aunt for it, and then my mom, who they were always trying to encourage to eat because she was a little bit underweight said, "Oh, I drank all of those. I just really got a taste for them all of a sudden. I'm sorry.".
08:31 DaemonFC; And they stopped yelling and were like, "Oh, okay then.".
08:32 DaemonFC; They weren't going to yell at her. She wasn't fat.
08:32 TR News; "While desktop 3D printing is an incredible technology, its got some pretty clear limitations." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/printed-axial-generator-is-turned-by-hand/ | Source: Hackaday
08:32 TR Bot; Axial Generator Is Turned By Hand | Hackaday
08:32 Helenah; hmm
08:32 Helenah; It's still a lot of cola though. :D
08:32 Helenah; Yelling probably isn't a resolve.
08:33 DaemonFC; Meh, today people get two liter bottles of Coke and drink them like a big fat disgusting baby with a bottle.
08:33 Helenah; Yeh, here too.
08:34 Helenah; Huge packs of snacks and drinks intended for sharing but consumed to ones self.
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08:34 DaemonFC; Well, I remember when eating a bag of potato chips by yourself in one sitting was truly shameful.
08:34 DaemonFC; Because it was one of those 90s bags that had like two and half pounds of chips in it.
08:35 DaemonFC; Now you open one up and it's got 7.5 ounces of chips.
08:35 DaemonFC; If they make them any smaller a "full sized bag" of chips will look like one of those snak paks over by the checkout lane.
08:35 Helenah; With the bag the same size too regardless of weight so it feels dead empty? :D
08:36 Helenah; That's what companies have done here.
08:36 DaemonFC; They just puff it with air.
08:36 Helenah; Reduce weight but not bag size. lol
08:36 Helenah; Oh here they don't.
08:36 DaemonFC; You open it up and the chips are 2/3rds of the way down in the bag.
08:37 Helenah; There's this crisp brand that...
08:37 Helenah; even when my gf was a kid in the 70s, she remembers them being 0.10GBP
08:37 Helenah; and they're still that today!
08:37 Helenah; But hey the bags are almost empty now.
08:37 TR News; 3D Printed Ratchet https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/a-3d-printed-ratchet-that-can-really-take-the-torque/ | Source: Hackaday
08:37 TR Bot; 3D Printed Ratchet That Can Really Take The Torque | Hackaday
08:37 Helenah; They're trying to keep the price tag but it clearly isn't sustainable as their product is now like vanishing to just a bag.
08:38 DaemonFC; A bag with a single chip surrounded by air.
08:38 DaemonFC; 10 cents
08:38 Helenah; lol
08:38 TR News; PCB https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/aqua-pcb-is-a-big-upgrade-for-the-mattel-aquarius/ | Source: Hackaday
08:38 TR Bot; PCB Is A Big Upgrade For The Mattel Aquarius | Hackaday
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08:39 Helenah; Yeah the company is nuts.
08:39 Helenah; Even Heinz tried price tag maintenance with tins of beans for many many years once
08:39 Helenah; They soon had to pump it up though...
08:39 DaemonFC; I actually initiated a refund request for a bag of chips at Walmart a few weeks ago.
08:39 DaemonFC; I got it home after online pickup and the entire bag was crushed.
08:39 Helenah; but then did they have to pump it up cause a tin of beans from Heinz isn't pennies anymore
08:40 phanes; i haven't looked at the price on a register for about 5 years
08:40 Helenah; yet I can get these 0.20GBP tins of beans from another company. lol
08:40 DaemonFC; Like someone beat the fuck out of it and it was a bag of salt and vinegar chip crumbs.
08:40 phanes; i just swipe my card
08:40 Helenah; WTF
08:40 DaemonFC; I'm not a big complainer but when I get cans that look like someone hit them with a golf club or a bag of chips that's crushed....
08:41 DaemonFC; I want my money.
08:41 Helenah; I wouldn't be surprised if a dimwit shelf stacker accidentally dropped a load of bags, stood on them, stuck them on the shelf anyway. lol
08:41 Helenah; At least here if a product is severely damaged, not just a package defect, they reduce the price.
08:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, but you can't stay mad at shelf stockers. They're like, all so pretty to look at.
08:42 DaemonFC; Probably because the stupid ones always are.
08:42 Helenah; :D lol
08:42 Helenah; All of them pretty to look at? That's... questionable lol
08:42 DaemonFC; Well, many are.
08:42 Helenah; Maybe employed on purpose so customers don't question them to higher management?
08:42 DaemonFC; That's what I miss about going in to do my shopping.
08:42 DaemonFC; I could take my time. Steal a peek.
08:43 Helenah; It isn't like that here, shelf stockers here are diverse in their appearance.
08:43 DaemonFC; That's racist.
08:43 TR News; Moscow https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/15/moscow-authorities-demand-that-hotel-and-hostel-operators-hand-over-information-on-male-guests | Source: Meduza
08:43 TR Bot; NO TITLE
08:43 Helenah; DaemonFC: What is? o.O
08:43 DaemonFC; :)
08:43 Helenah; lol
08:44 TR News; "Veteran journalist Kevin Gosztola joins ScheerPost to discuss last weeks Hands Off Assange! rally and the state of the media." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/15/video-kevin-gosztola-and-the-state-of-support-for-julian-assange/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:44 TR Bot; Kevin Gosztola and the State of Support for Julian Assange - scheerpost.com
08:44 DaemonFC; No, I mean like you go in to do your shopping and there's always at least a few of them that are all the right shapes.
08:44 DaemonFC; I'm not. I admit it.
08:44 DaemonFC; Mandy calls me a pig. And I say, "Yeah, I'm a big pig.".
08:45 DaemonFC; Then he says "I'm only 18, come play with me!" and wags his tongue between his fingers. I admit, I may be responsible for teaching him that.
08:45 TR News; National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/15/we-won-workers-vote-become-second-unionized-us-apple-store | Source: Common Dreams
08:45 TR Bot; 'We Won!': Workers Vote to Become Second Unionized US Apple Store
08:45 DaemonFC; When we had cable at the motel, late at night they did those ads for the 1-900 sex lines.
08:45 DaemonFC; And they had those "I'm only 18, come play with me!" ones.
08:46 DaemonFC; So I said, "I'm only 18, come play with me!" *wags tongue between fingers*
08:46 Helenah; Oh fuck haha :D
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08:47 Helenah; reptilian_thrills!
08:47 Helenah; Welcome to Planet Zion
08:47 DaemonFC; Yeah, with the corresponding silly noises, you know.
08:47 DaemonFC; Hey, I made him laugh.
08:47 Helenah; Please take a seat and make yourself at home.
08:47 reptilian_thrills; you have no idea
08:47 TR News; "'The Rent Is Too Damn High" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/15/rent-too-damn-high-activists-respond-us-housing-crisis | Source: Common Dreams
08:47 TR Bot; Opinion | 'The Rent Is Too Damn High': Activists Respond to the US Housing Crisis | Fran Quigley
08:54 TR News; Reverse-Engineering https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/reverse-engineering-a-display-protocol-to-repair-a-roland-synthesizer/ | Source: Hackaday
08:54 TR Bot; A Display Protocol To Repair A Roland Synthesizer | Hackaday
08:55 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 15, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/irc-log-151022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/16/irc-log-151022/
08:55 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 15, 2022 | Techrights
08:56 TR News; "You must be used to use Ctrl + C for terminating any process, but do you know it sends the SIGINT signal?" https://linuxhandbook.com/termination-signals/ | Source: Linux Handbook
08:56 TR Bot; How to use SIGINT and other Termination Signals in Linux
08:56 TR News; "While XML (Extensible Markup Language) is a human-readable markup language, you'll more likely find XML files unstructured enough to give you headaches!" https://linuxhandbook.com/pretty-print-xml/ | Source: Linux Handbook
08:56 TR Bot; Pretty Print XML in Linux Command Line
08:56 TR News; "You know you arent supposed to watch your laser while it is cutting or engraving" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/15/laser-engraving-up-close/ | Source: Hackaday
08:56 TR Bot; Engraving, Up Close | Hackaday
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09:03 TR News; (NEW): Best Network Monitoring Tools for Linux Mint 21 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Best_Network_Monitoring_Tools_for_Linux_Mint_21.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Best_Network_Monitoring_Tools_for_Linux_Mint_21.gmi
09:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Network Monitoring Tools for Linux Mint 21
09:03 TR News; (NEW): today's howtows http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtows.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtows.gmi
09:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtows
09:03 TR News; (NEW): The 6 Best Image Editors for Ubuntu http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/The_6_Best_Image_Editors_for_Ubuntu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/The_6_Best_Image_Editors_for_Ubuntu.gmi
09:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines The 6 Best Image Editors for Ubuntu
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09:14 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, ESP32, and Morew http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_ESP32_and_Morew.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_ESP32_and_Morew.gmi
09:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, ESP32, and Morew
09:14 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
09:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
09:17 TR News; Links 16/10/2022: A Lot on Devices | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/a-lot-on-devices/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/16/a-lot-on-devices/
09:17 TR Bot; Links 16/10/2022: A Lot on Devices | Techrights
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09:25 TR News; Buy a Linux laptop: The TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen 2 detailed review. https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2022/10/tuxedo-pulse-15-gen-2-review.html
09:25 TR Bot; Buy a Linux laptop: The TUXEDO Pulse 15 Gen 2 detailed review.
09:25 TR News; (NEW): ArchLabs 2022.10.15 Release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/ArchLabs_2022_10_15_Release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/ArchLabs_2022_10_15_Release.gmi
09:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines ArchLabs 2022.10.15 Release
09:29 TR News; Juno tablet runs Manjaro Linux or Mobian on a Celeron N5100 Jasper Lake CPU - CNX Software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Juno_Tablet_is_a_Linux_tablet_with_an_Intel_Jasper_Lake_process.shtml
09:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Juno Tablet is a Linux tablet with an Intel Jasper Lake processor for $429 and up
09:32 TR News; Gulag outsourcing to Microsoft Proprietary Software Prison http://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/10/announcing-kataos-and-sparrow.html
09:32 TR Bot; Announcing KataOS and Sparrow | Google Open Source Blog
09:33 TR News; "In this video I show you how to secure an admin login page for your wordpress login, cpanel, Django, or any other website framework that has an admin login page." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Rdj_sBiTHFY
09:33 TR Bot; How To Secure Your Admin Login Page - Invidious
09:34 TR News; Chrome Books, Video games and 365 is rubbish now - A Trendy Talk - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S-SDtc8rhtI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/S-SDtc8rhtI
09:34 TR Bot; Chrome Books, Video games and 365 is rubbish now - A Trendy Talk - Invidious
09:44 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Enable and Access USB Drive in VirtualBox http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/How_to_Enable_and_Access_USB_Drive_in_VirtualBox.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/How_to_Enable_and_Access_USB_Drive_in_VirtualBox.gmi
09:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Enable and Access USB Drive in VirtualBox
09:45 TR News; (NEW): DebugPoint Weekly Roundup #22.09: New Wayland Compositor, Firefox OS Revival and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/DebugPoint_Weekly_Roundup_22_09_New_Wayland_Compositor_Firefox_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/DebugPoint_Weekly_Roundup_22_09_New_Wayland_Compositor_Firefox_.gmi
09:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines DebugPoint Weekly Roundup #22.09: New Wayland Compositor, Firefox OS Revival and More
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10:00 TR News; Three New Sparky 2022.10 Semi-Rolling Special Editions Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/15/Sparky_2022_10_Special_Editions.shtml
10:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Sparky 2022.10 Special Editions
10:00 TR News; (NEW): Revival of the GIMP developerwebsite http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Revival_of_the_GIMP_developer_website.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Revival_of_the_GIMP_developer_website.gmi
10:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Revival of the GIMP developerwebsite
10:02 TR News; "This problem has come up when an SFS from another Puppy-derivative is attempted to be used in EasyOS." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/sfs-with-invalid-library-path-rejected.html
10:02 TR Bot; SFS with invalid library path rejected
10:03 TR News; "WoofQ has two scripts '0pre-oe' and '0pre-oe-add' to import packages from OpenEmbedded. As well as importing the binary packages, the package database in Puppy-format is created." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/improve-finding-deps-woofq-importing-from-oe.html
10:03 TR Bot; Improve finding deps woofQ importing from OE
10:11 TR News; iTWire - Labor's new initiative: passports that cannot be used for ID https://itwire.com/open-sauce/labor-s-new-initiative-passports-that-cannot-be-used-for-id.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/labor-s-new-initiative-passports-that-cannot-be-used-for-id.html
10:11 TR Bot; - Labor's new initiative: passports that cannot be used for ID
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11:18 TR News; (NEW): Whipping up a new Shell - Lash#Cat9 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Whipping_up_a_new_Shell_Lash_Cat9.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Whipping_up_a_new_Shell_Lash_Cat9.gmi
11:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Whipping up a new Shell - Lash#Cat9
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:21 TR News; Web browsers are insecure software https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/10/12/google-chrome-security-update-high-priority-update-chrome-now/
11:21 TR Bot; Google Issues High Priority Update For Chrome Browser Users
11:25 TR News; "The tech giant brings open source Apache Iceberg table format support to its BigLake data lake as it extends BigQuery support for unstructured data and Apache Spark." https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252525928/Google-grows-data-cloud-capabilities-for-data-management
11:25 TR Bot; Google grows data cloud capabilities for data management
11:28 TR News; Microsoft kills https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55659-military-use-of-microsoft-s-hololens-would-get-soldiers-killed see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
↺ https://www.fudzilla.com/news/55659-military-use-of-microsoft-s-hololens-would-get-soldiers-killed
11:28 TR Bot; Military use of Microsoft's HoloLens would get soldiers killed
11:28 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
11:31 TR News; Microsoft: we steal money from taxpayers under the guise of "defence" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11312525/Microsofts-HoloLens-makes-soldiers-SICK-80-suffered-mission-affecting-physical-impairments.html
11:31 TR Bot; Microsoft's HoloLens makes soldiers SICK: 80% suffered 'mission-affecting physical impairments' | Daily Mail Online
11:33 TR News; Horrible Bosses Cause 'Race to the Bottom' - Study https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/15/199242
11:33 TR Bot; Horrible Bosses Cause 'Race to the Bottom' - Study - SoylentNews
11:34 TR News; "I thought this was a little weird as if it was a battery problem I would have expected to fail in seconds to a couple of minutes. I therefore dug out the schematic to see what is up." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/10/09/acorn-archimedes-a3010-restoration-part-3/
11:34 TR Bot; Acorn Archimedes A3010: Restoration Part 3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
11:36 TR News; "The R Consortium recently caught up with Alyssa Columbus of R-Ladies Irvine (also on MeetUp and Twitter) to discuss the groups progress during the pandemic. Alyssa discussed the groups efforts to remain active and provide networking opportunities for its members." https://www.r-consortium.org/blog/2022/10/11/acing-virtual-events-with-networking-sessions-and-collaboration
11:36 TR Bot; Acing Virtual Events with Networking Sessions and Collaboration - R Consortium
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11:37 TR News; "completely misunderstand the process of getting a decent result with AI generators like Stable Diffusion and DALL-E 2. People seem to assume that it's just "push button, recieve bacon" without any real creativity in the equation." https://xeiaso.net/blog/prompt-engineering
11:37 TR Bot; Prompt engineering is hard - Xe
11:40 TR News; "A taxi trip would probably be a little quicker but only marginally so. I'd have to be out waiting for the taxi for a couple of minutes, it would pick up another couple of colleagues on the way, and the trip itself takes about 15 minutes by car." https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-10-01-just-happy-for-bike-lanes.html
11:40 TR Bot; Just Happy For Bike Lanes - Bjrn Wrmedal
11:42 TR News; "clicking on click bait titles should be avoided at best, this gives credit to such titles and authors will continue to publish them" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-02-top-10-things.html
11:42 TR Bot; Solene'% : The top 10 things about blog and IT you should know
11:43 TR News; "Im iffy on the language used to describe people, our creativity, and our interactions online. Everything is measured by engagement, for the production of content, and extracting value. And its hollowing out the web from the inside." https://rubenerd.com/content-engagement-and-extraction/
11:43 TR Bot; Content, engagement, and extraction
11:44 TR News; Optus Hack just tip of the iceberg. FinTechs harvest bank details and passwords, can sell them too https://michaelwest.com.au/fintech-companies-privacy-rorts/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/fintech-companies-privacy-rorts/
11:44 TR Bot; Optus Hack just tip of the iceberg. FinTechs harvest bank details and passwords, can sell them too
11:45 TR News; "Maybe screenshots as an API can bridge the gap on some of these problems." https://matt-rickard.com/on-web-clipping
11:45 TR Bot; On Web Clipping
11:49 TR News; Trackball musings https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2022/10/06/trackball-musings/ "This is a post about my ideas about how a perfect trackball would look and function."
11:49 TR Bot; Trackball musings - Asylum
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11:55 TR News; Microsoft shills and the insult of "Linux on the desktop" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsoft-windows-predicts-the-end
11:55 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows predicts the end of the world...
11:56 TR News; Survey Says: Why the Government Reacted With Alarm to a Critical Opinion Poll on the Online News Act https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/survey-says-why-the-government-and-bill-c-18-supporters-are-concerned-about-a-critical-opinion-poll-on-the-online-news-act/
11:56 TR Bot; Survey Says: Why the Government Reacted With Alarm to a Critical Opinion Poll on the Online News Act - Michael Geist
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11:58 TR News; The wonderful tee(1) command https://rubenerd.com/the-wonderful-tee-command/
11:58 TR Bot; The wonderful tee(1) command
11:59 TR News; "We have quite a few things to do now, ideally before the freeze for Debian 12 (bookworm), due January 2023." https://blog.einval.com/2022/10/02#firmware-vote-result
11:59 TR Bot; Steve's blog
12:00 TR News; Why does my image look desaturated when I upload it online? https://blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/image-desaturation/
12:00 TR Bot; Why does my image look desaturated when I upload it online?
12:02 Helenah; Anyone here?
12:02 mjg59_; Nope
12:04 Helenah; I was just talking about America's fucked up age of consent laws. 21+ is over the top and unfounded, not even scientifically backed. In the UK the age of consent is 16+, age 16 is classified as the start of adult life in the UK. It's normal for 16+ year olds to seek a girlfriend or boyfriend and kids are taught sex education at age 13 and it has caused no problems.
12:04 mjg59_; I'm not aware of anywhere in the US where the age of consent is 21
12:05 Helenah; When I was taught sex education at age 13, I was able to fully understand it.
12:05 Helenah; "In the remaining states, the age of consent is either 17 or 18 years old"
12:05 Helenah; Oh, since when?
12:05 Helenah; So most it's 16+
12:05 Helenah; but even 17+ and 18+ is too high.
12:05 mjg59_; Since it stopped being 14 or something, probably
12:06 mjg59_; It's actually kind of complicated because there are carve outs in some states if you're married and marriage can be legal below the age of consent
12:07 Helenah; Even the age of consent of 15+ in Sweden seems to not flag up anything sinister.
12:07 Helenah; So that has worked for them.
12:08 TR News; (NEW): Advertising is killing Tech Journalism http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Advertising_is_killing_Tech_Journalism.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Advertising_is_killing_Tech_Journalism.gmi
12:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Advertising is killing Tech Journalism
12:08 Helenah; Oh
12:11 mjg59_; So eg in North Carolina you can marry a 14 year old and then have sex with them
12:11 mjg59_; There's no consistency at all in the US in this respect, basically every state has different rules
12:14 TR News; "The Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet has been ordered to hand over the Gaetjens Report into the Sports Rorts Affair after a two and a half year fight by Rex Patrick against fake Cabinet confidentiality." https://michaelwest.com.au/prime-ministers-department-ordered-to-come-clean-on-sports-rorts-cover-up/
12:14 TR Bot; Prime Minister's department ordered to come clean on Sports Rorts cover-up - Michael West
12:15 TR News; "Today I realized I'm annoyed by the word "stethoscope". "Scope" is Greek for "look at". The telescope is for looking at far things (). The microscope is for looking at small things (). The endoscope is for looking inside things (). The periscope is for looking around things ()." https://blog.plover.com/2022/10/13#stethoscope
12:15 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Stethoscope
12:16 TR News; "I apologise for the lack of sizeable updates in the past few months. Unfortunately the T700 project has not been smooth sailing, primarily due to Shenzhen and other Chinese cities under major lockdowns." https://www.xyte.ch/2022/10/10/t700-and-my-apology/
12:16 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.xyte.ch/2022/10/10/t700-and-my-apology/ )
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:21 TR News; Full Circle Weekly News #283 | Full Circle Magazine https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-283/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-283/
12:21 TR Bot; Full Circle Weekly News #283 | Full Circle Magazine
12:22 TR News; (UPDATEDx4): Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx4) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.gmi
12:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx4)
12:41 TR News; [GIT PULL] xen: branch for v6.1-rc1 - Juergen Gross https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221012071618.8859-1-jgross@suse.com/ Source: SUSE's Corporate Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221012071618.8859-1-jgross@suse.com/
12:41 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] xen: branch for v6.1-rc1 - Juergen Gross
12:41 TR News; Pull xfs updates from Dave Chinner https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=60bb8154d1d77042a5d43d335a68fdb202302cbe
12:41 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
12:42 TR News; LKML: Michael Ellerman: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-6.1-1 tag https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/9/123 Source: uni Indiana | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/9/123
12:42 TR Bot; LKML: Michael Ellerman: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-6.1-1 tag
12:45 TR News; "Here, we introduce you Floccus, which is a handy tool to sync and backup your bookmark collections from different browser and devices. Furthermore, it is completely free and open source." https://medevel.com/floccus/
12:45 TR Bot; Sync and Backup your Mega Bookmark collections with Floccus
12:46 TR News; Fakecoins 'wallet' https://linuxhint.com/best-bitcoin-wallets-for-ubuntu/
12:46 TR Bot; Best Bitcoin Wallets for Ubuntu
12:48 TR News; CRAN and the Isoband Incident - Is Your Project at Risk and How to Fix It - R programming https://appsilon.com/cran-and-the-isoband-incident/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//appsilon.com/cran-and-the-isoband-incident/
12:48 TR Bot; CRAN and the Isoband Incident - Is Your Project at Risk and How to Fix It - R programming
12:49 TR News; "A Plea for Lean Software" by Prof. Niklaus Wirth https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/88032.html
12:49 TR Bot; liam_on_linux | "A Plea for Lean Software" by Prof. Niklaus Wirth
12:50 TR News; "On the contrary. Were it not for a thousand times faster hardware, modern software would be utterly unusable." https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/88032.html
12:50 schestowitz[TR]; frog: ^
12:51 TR News; Python dependency management difficulty is an unhelpful meme http://blog.viraptor.info/post/python-dependency-management-difficulty-is-an-unhelpful-meme
12:51 TR Bot; Python dependency management difficulty is an unhelpfulmeme
12:54 TR News; "Maple Diffusion is the second Stable-Diffusion-on-a-phone implementation I'm aware of (first place goes to Matt Waller), but it should be the fastest." https://madebyoll.in/posts/maple_diffusion/
12:54 TR Bot; Maple Diffusion
12:55 TR News; Cold Fusion is Back (there's just one problem) http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/cold-fusion-is-back-theres-just-one.html
12:55 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Cold Fusion is Back (there's just one problem)
12:56 Helenah; mjg59_: Thing is...
12:56 Helenah; the age tolerance is missing
12:56 Helenah; Sweden has an age tolerance of 3 years, the age of consent is 15+ like I said.
12:56 TR News; Hackday - Group Solar Forecasts - Terence Edens Blog https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/hackday-group-solar-forecasts/ Source: Terence Eden | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/hackday-group-solar-forecasts/
12:56 TR Bot; Hackday Group Solar Forecasts Terence Edens Blog
12:56 Helenah; But a 15 year old there can go with someone 3 years younger than them and it be legal.
12:57 mjg59_; helenah: Oh several stats have age tolerance laws
12:57 Helenah; And it apparently works while at the same time protecting people with minor age differences.
12:57 Helenah; mjg59_: Good
12:57 mjg59_; This is one of the scenarios where talking about the US is like talking about Europe
12:57 Helenah; The UK doesn't and I know someone who was 16 and went with a 15 year old
12:57 mjg59_; There isn't a generic answer
12:57 Helenah; They were later forced to sign the sex offenders register
12:57 Helenah; I thought that was fucking wrong
12:58 Helenah; Wasn't allowed to work with kids as he was considered a child predator.
12:58 TR News; "Less internalised misogyny and a greater sense of equality. I became vegetarian while in Canada - and still am. I feel like I was better at making friends back then, but that's the nature of throwing teens together in a strange environment. I'm better at self-directed learning, and probably just as bad as I ever was at procrastinating." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/two-anniversaries-on-one-day/
12:58 TR Bot; Two Anniversaries on One Day Terence Edens Blog
12:58 Helenah; mjg59_: Agreed on that
12:58 Helenah; But there are definitive answers such as we know age tolerance is a must
12:59 Helenah; What that age needs to be is there is no generic answer like you said
12:59 Helenah; but 3 years tolerance sounds reasonable and non-dangerous.
12:59 Helenah; and has proven to be so.
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 124.66
12:59 Helenah; Sometimes with politics, it's about seeing how other nations that aren't your own perform with their own system.
12:59 Helenah; and comparing your own to it to see where your own flaws are that that other system doesn't have
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12:59 Helenah; where you can then revise your own system and make changes to it.
13:00 Helenah; Obviously it's a lengthy process and isn't as simple as that, in the UK it would require votes of MPs and so on.
13:00 Helenah; and even lengthy discussions at the political table.
13:00 Helenah; And in Germany they recently discussed whether or not it should be allowed to have sex with dogs.
13:00 Helenah; Now yes I don't agree with it
13:01 Helenah; but I agree that things should still be discussed even so
13:01 Helenah; And the result was it shouldn't be allowed
13:01 Helenah; but it's good that it was discussed as with advances in what people know these days compared to yesterday may have changed.
13:01 Helenah; Thing with dogs though is they don't understand sex, they just instinctively do it.
13:02 Helenah; They also don't have any concept of STDs nor the capacity to learn about sex
13:02 Helenah; and so they are easily exploited by humans
13:02 Helenah; So even if a human and a dog can safely and mutually have sex and it not cause issues...
13:02 Helenah; There is always room other humans may exploit dogs into doing so
13:02 Helenah; potentially even passing down a disease.
13:02 Helenah; or hurting the animal in some way
13:03 Helenah; I like to speak in depth about the ethics of things.
13:04 Helenah; I also like to be impartial as I speak about such matters.
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; right, but it's quite far removed from tech
13:04 Helenah; I don't like to let personal one-sidedness get in the way of my judgements on such important ethical matters.
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; and might mostly put people off
13:04 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Sure
13:04 Helenah; Would you like me to move on?
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; we can talk tech topics
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; like kids who carry 'smart' phones
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; i think it's partly what led to it yesterday
13:05 Helenah; Are you wanting to talk tech topics are is it really that you don't like this subject of dicussion in particular? Earlier on I was talking about alsorts of non-tech stuff and times prior and I wasn't told to change the topic.
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; you pointed out many accuse of pedophilia to discredit people
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; bringing up the subject here gives leeway to 'cancel culture'
13:06 Helenah; Perfectly understandable.
13:07 Helenah; Thanks for giving me insight into what you really mean.
13:07 Helenah; Anyway, I'll change the topic to tech. :)
13:08 TR News; "about 26 percent of the time, actors gain initial access through the exploitation of public-facing applications, which underscores how critical it is for organizations to maintain an up-to-date inventory of assets and vulnerabilities; this is true for both public and private sector entitiesas no one is immuneincluding the federal government." https://www.mandiant.com/resources/blog/cisa-directive-strengthens-federal-networks
13:08 TR Bot; CISA Operational Directive Strengthens Cyber Defenses for Federal Networks | Mandiant
13:08 TR News; The browser build on Firefox, whose CSO is CIA https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1154/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/
13:08 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.4 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
13:08 TR Bot; Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights
13:09 TR News; The browser built on Firefox, whose CSO is CIA https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1154/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/
13:11 TR News; "Restrictive internet censorship and blackouts are normal tools used by governments to disrupt organizing and dissent. Companies continuously surveill their workers with digital spyware" https://blog.torproject.org/powered-by-privacy/
13:11 TR Bot; Resistance, change, & freedom: powered by privacy | The Tor Project
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: np :-)
13:11 Helenah; :)
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; you said it yesterday, people like to use those topics to attack people
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; so debating things like age of consent can lead to mischaracterisations
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/ok-melinda/
13:12 TR Bot; OK, Melinda | Techrights
13:15 TR News; "I am curious to see how the industry responds to AirTags in general, because it seems like maybe they should technically be banned, based on current regulations." https://onemileatatime.com/news/lufthansa-bans-airtags/
13:15 TR Bot; Lufthansa Bans AirTags: Will Other Airlines Follow? - One Mile at a Time
13:16 TR News; "Most visitors to Horizon Worlds generally dont return after first month; an empty world is a sad world" https://www.wsj.com/articles/meta-metaverse-horizon-worlds-zuckerberg-facebook-internal-documents-11665778961
13:16 TR Bot; Documents Show Metas Flagship Metaverse Falling Short - WSJ
13:16 TR News; "Patrick Hart, a leader in the Oklahoma City campaign, said hes now eager to advise other Apple stores on how to organize. I want this to become a labor movement, he said. Were going to be that catalyst for people." https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-15/apple-oklahoma-store-is-second-to-unionize-after-election-win
13:17 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
13:17 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/1552051985460994051-2048x774.jpg
13:18 TR News; "I love to read, and while I'm no stranger to the world of eBooks, nothing beats the experience of curling up in front of the fire with a stack of dead trees." http://flower.codes/2022/10/15/used-books.html
13:18 TR Bot; Buying Used Books | flower.codes
13:20 TR News; "We have a slightly smaller week again so we can prepare for some additional big releases that we have on the horizon (you might even see one or two next week)! We start this Friday off with a new BreadBoard Mates starter kit for their TIMI-96 module." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5470
13:20 TR Bot; Galore - News - SparkFun Electronics
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; "Over time, smart thermostats can learn not just your personal routines but also how long it takes your HVAC system to arrive at a requested or programmed temperature." Overkill, waste of energy, and expensive to maintain https://staceyoniot.com/why-your-smart-thermostat-might-run-before-its-programmed-times/
13:21 TR Bot; Why your smart thermostat might run before its programmed times - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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13:21 TR News; No, for GPL VIOLATIONS https://austinhenley.com/blog/copilotmodes.html see http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/github-series-outline/
13:21 TR Bot; Coding with Copilot for acceleration and exploration - Austin Z. Henley
13:22 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part III A Story of Plagiarism and Likely Securities Fraud | Techrights
13:25 TR News; "BASH? PowerShell? It all traces back to 1963. And the work of an amazing Frenchman, CTTS, and Multics." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-history-of-the-first-computer
13:25 TR Bot; The History of the First Computer Shell - by Bryan Lunduke
13:26 TR News; "How do multinationals like Microsoft get away with paying so little tax?" https://michaelwest.com.au/microsoft-tax-avoidance-a-bunch-of-shifting-bastards/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Tax
13:26 TR Bot; A bunch of shifting bastards: how Big Tech goes small on tax - Michael West
13:26 TR Bot; Microsoft - Tax - Techrights
13:27 TR News; "The strength of this heuristic is that it doesnt rely on domain knowledge about textiles or even the details of fancy and comfort. Given any two independent qualities, we can argue that optimizing for one will sacrifice the other." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/what-a-wedding-taught-me-about-software/
13:27 TR Bot; What a Wedding Taught Me About Software Engineering Buttondown
13:30 TR News; companies
13:31 MinceR; corporations are people, my friend!
13:31 TR News; "While most of these contracts went to Australian , some went to subsidiaries of foreign multinational weapons makers such as SAAB and Boeing." https://michaelwest.com.au/federal-government-funded-2021-weapons-expo/
13:31 TR Bot; Federal government funded 2021 weapons expo - Michael West
13:31 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/9s2thZ2.mp4
13:32 TR News; "The 10th anniversary of Julia Gillards so-called misogyny speech is a reminder of what might have been. Chiefly, the loss of a potentially great Australian leader." https://michaelwest.com.au/a-decade-on-from-the-big-m-gillard-and-the-might-have-beens/
13:32 TR Bot; A decade from Big M: Gillard and the might-have-beens - Michael West
13:35 TR News; "Ken modified cc (the C compiler on UNIX systems) so that only when it was compiling UNIXs login program it would inject a small backdoor (into login) that would allow him to log in as any user on the system if he used a predefined password." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/that-time-the-creator-of-unix-built
13:35 TR Bot; That time the creator of UNIX built a Trojan Horse that let him log in to any UNIX machine.
13:37 TR News; "Ultimately, people use them for a variety of different things. From "lab" in the word, you figure that it's a place for experimentation, not production. That doesn't always end up as the case: Some people run "home production" instead of "homelab", but it's a big tent." https://ntietz.com/blog/homelab/
13:37 TR Bot; Starting my (overkill) homelab | nicholas@web
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13:41 TR News; "Its hard to find a textbook series garnering more effusive praise than The Little Schemer, The Little Prover, The Little Typer & co. The Little Typer introduces dependent type theory and is the first of the series Ive read." https://ahelwer.ca/post/2022-10-13-little-typer-ch9/
13:41 TR Bot; The Missing Prelude to The Little Typer's Trickiest Chapter - Andrew Helwer
13:42 TR News; "Whats the scam? The scam is RANS, DANS, TANS, RDAC, IAS, IFAM and JobKeeper a dazzling array of at least six sorts of public subsidies which helped get this private enterprise through the pandemic." https://michaelwest.com.au/qantas-stock-soars-as-alan-joyce-declares-the-roo-back-in-the-black/
13:42 TR Bot; Qantas stock soars as Alan Joyce declares the Roo back in the black - Michael West
13:43 TR News; "As reported by The Australian Financial Review, Kylea Tink (North Sydney) told a forum hosted by investment bank Citi that not all beneficiaries of the cuts are wealthy." https://michaelwest.com.au/2024-tax-cuts-find-their-true-north/
13:43 TR Bot; 2024 tax cuts find their true north - Michael West
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13:51 TR News; (NEW): Rant: wordpress & privacy - self hosted instances upload all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com imho without consent and no possibility to delete? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm
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13:57 TR News; Re: [GIT PULL] Devicetree updates for v6.1 https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/2210.1/00691.html
13:57 TR Bot; Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT PULL] Devicetree updates for v6.1
13:57 TR News; (NEW): 5 Best Free and Open Source Text-Based Spotify Clients http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Text_Based_Spotify_Clients.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Text_Based_Spotify_Clients.gmi
13:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines 5 Best Free and Open Source Text-Based Spotify Clients
13:59 TR News; Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-10-16 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-released-in-the-past-week-2022-10-16-edition/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/best-steam-deck-games-released-in-the-past-week-2022-10-16-edition/
13:59 TR Bot; Best Steam Deck Games Released in the Past Week - 2022-10-16 Edition - Boiling Steam
14:00 TR News; "Navit is written in the C programming language and it is released under the GPL-2.0 (Only) License." https://medevel.com/navit/
14:00 TR Bot; Navit: Offline Navigation System for Android and Windows
14:05 TR News; "Dan Lorenc is Founder & CEO of Chainguard, the platform to secure your software supply chain. Chainguard supports many popular open source projects such as Sigstore, SLSA, and Tekton." https://anchor.fm/ossstartuppodcast/episodes/E57-Secure-your-Software-Supply-Chain-with-Chainguard-e1p5lia
14:05 TR Bot; E57: Secure your Software Supply Chain with Chainguard by Open Source Startup Podcast
14:06 TR News; Why the Canadian Film and TV Production Sectors Bill C-11 Expectations Are Wildly Out of Touch With Global Standards https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/why-the-canadian-film-and-tv-production-sectors-bill-c-11-expectations-are-wildly-out-of-touch-with-global-standards/
14:06 TR Bot; Why the Canadian Film and TV Production Sectors Bill C-11 Expectations Are Wildly Out of Touch With Global Standards - Michael Geist
14:07 TR News; When Promtail seems to make position checkpoints (as of v2.6.1) https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/PromtailWhenPositionsSaved
14:07 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/PromtailWhenPositionsSaved
14:10 TR News; "IT is increasingly involved in factory operations." https://staceyoniot.com/how-john-deere-built-its-own-cellular-network-for-its-factory/
14:10 TR Bot; How John Deere built its own cellular network for its factory - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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14:13 TR News; "Extract patterns in R, Rs str extract() function can be used to extract matching patterns from strings. It is part of the stringr package." https://datasciencetut.com/extract-patterns-in-r/
14:13 TR Bot; Extract patterns in R? - Data Science Tutorials
14:14 TR News; Common Statistical Tests in R - Part I Musings on R A blog on all things R and Data Science by Martin Chan https://martinctc.github.io/blog/common-statistical-tests-in-r-part-i/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//martinctc.github.io/blog/common-statistical-tests-in-r-part-i/
14:14 TR Bot; Common Statistical Tests in R - Part I Musings on R A blog on all things R and Data Science by Martin Chan
14:16 TR News; "Last week, we were very excited to host our first Shiny in Production conference! Attendees gathered in The Catalyst in Newcastle for two days of workshops and talks focusing on all things related to Shiny, building dashboards, and cool things you can do in R." https://www.jumpingrivers.com/blog/shiny-in-production-highlights/
14:16 TR Bot; Highlights from Shiny in Production (2022)
14:17 TR News; Inference on Adaptively Collected Data https://youngstats.github.io/post/2022/10/11/inference-on-adaptively-collected-data/
14:17 TR Bot; Inference on Adaptively Collected Data | YoungStatS
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 TR News; "The authors conclude that the change in US antitrust enforcement wasn't the result of reasoned argument, but rather, a mix of financial enticements and a covert influence operation." https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/03/powell-memo/#means-motive-opportunity
14:20 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 03 Oct 2022 An antitrust murder whodunnit Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
14:21 TR News; "Don't spy on a privacy lab" (and other career advice for university provosts) https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/07/sensory-deprivation/#sensorship
14:21 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 07 Oct 2022 Dont spy on a privacy lab, and other career advice for university provosts Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
14:21 TR News; "The EXIF information is a set of data that your camera or smart phone has put into the JPG file. One of the elements of this set is the actual date and time you made the photo." https://box.matto.nl/set-filedate-on-photo-according-to-exif.html
14:21 TR Bot; filedate on photo according to EXIF - box.matto.nl
14:23 TR News; "We'd buy the cameras ourselves and our biggest fear would be that nobody was watching" https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/10/buying-cameras.html
14:23 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Buying the Cameras
14:24 TR News; "Portainer comes in two types - the portainer community edition (portainer-ce) and the portainer business [PROPRIETARY] edition (portainer-ee). This tutorial uses the portainer community edition." https://earthly.dev/blog/explore-portainer-as-tool/
14:24 TR Bot; Exploring Portainer As A Tool For Managing Docker Containers - Earthly Blog
14:25 TR News; ZDNet running Facebook puff pieces (ads) now. Corrupt site. Surveillance painted as a science.
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14:26 TR News; Surveillance inside the home https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/12/23398987/google-matter-samsung-smartthings-multi-admin-partnership
14:26 TR Bot; Samsung and Google use Matter to add interoperability between their smart home platforms - The Verge
14:26 TR News; Invitro neurons learn and exhibit sentience when embodied in a simulated game-world: Neuron https://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(22)00806-6
14:26 TR Bot; Invitro neurons learn and exhibit sentience when embodied in a simulated game-world: Neuron
14:27 TR News; "The Russian authorities have added [Zuckerface Inc.] - which owns Facebook and Instagram - to a list of terrorist and extremist organisations, the country's Interfax agency reports." https://www.bbc.co.k/news/technology-63218095
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14:28 TR News; Two evil companies help one another do evil stuff https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/11/23397251/meta-microsoft-partnership-quest-teams-office-windows-features-vr see https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/11/23397251/meta-microsoft-partnership-quest-teams-office-windows-features-vr
14:28 TR Bot; Microsoft partners with Meta to bring Teams, Office, Windows, and Xbox to VR - The Verge
14:28 TR News; "Facebook, a partly Microsoft-owned company, commoditises site users and exploits them voluntarily so as to harvest peer-informing/tracking labour, then sell their linked data. Facebook engages in censorship, patent aggression, and more" http://techrights.org/wiki/Facebook
14:28 TR Bot; Facebook - Techrights
14:30 TR News; "Most people prefer Bucket A, despite both buckets having the same expected utility. This is because we tend to choose the less ambiguous option when it comes to quantifiable vs. unquantifiable risk. Our tendency towards ambiguity aversion, even when the expected utility is greater, is called the Ellsberg paradox." https://matt-rickard.com/risk-vs-uncertainty
14:30 TR Bot; Risk vs. Uncertainty
14:31 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D385.jpg
14:31 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D730.jpg
14:32 TR News; How To Downgrade The Manjaro Kernel gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-16-downgrade-kernel.gmi
14:34 TR News; "When significant changes occur in my life it feels like they are occurring around me without my agency. They don't have an impact on my feelings or emotions, they are just things that happen." gemini://cadence.moe/gemlog/2022-10-16-emotions-about-significant-changes-in-my-life.bliz
14:34 TR News; The development of the online RPG market 16%20The%20development%20of%20the%20online%20RPG%20market
14:58 TR News; "CSS may be a boring example, but the more interesting one (for me) is where infrastructure configuration goes. Is there a Tailwind-like solution that helps consolidate infrastructure and application code?" https://matt-rickard.com/where-logic-lives
14:58 TR Bot; Where Logic Lives
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.21
14:59 TR News; "While a commercial solution like IPMI offers many more features like remote serial, or remote image mounting, this DIY solution feels really magical, and has great price performance if all you need is power management." https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-10-09-remote-power-button/
14:59 TR Bot; DIY out-of-band management: remote power button - Michael Stapelberg
15:00 TR News; The Greatest Challenge To State Power https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/10/the-greatest-challenge-to-state-power/
15:00 TR Bot; The Greatest Challenge To State Power neritam
15:01 TR News; "Leaders of the African Peoples Socialist Party say the FBI carried out a violent raid on its properties with flash grenades and drones early Friday morning in Missouri and Florida" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/10/black_socialist_chairman_fbi_raid_response
15:01 TR Bot; Bogus Charge: FBI Raids African Peoples Socialist Party; Group Dismisses Russian Influence Claims | Democracy Now!
15:05 TR News; No need for these surveillance devices to study these already-known links https://scitechdaily.com/optimize-exercise-specific-links-between-exercise-memory-and-mental-health-revealed-by-fitness-trackers/amp/
15:05 TR Bot; Optimize Exercise: Specific Links Between Exercise, Memory, and Mental Health Revealed by Fitness Trackers
15:06 TR News; Powerful simulation solves vital physics problem - News - University of Florida https://news.ufl.edu/2022/09/thermal-plume-simulation/ Source: Yahoo News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.ufl.edu/2022/09/thermal-plume-simulation/
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15:06 TR Bot; Powerful simulation solves vital physics problem - News - University of Florida
15:08 TR News; How much in bribe money (sorry, advertising) did venturebeat take from corrupt Facebook to publish such idiotic pieces? https://venturebeat.com/virtual/how-covid-19-changed-the-healthcare-metaverse-prognosis/
15:08 TR Bot; ways the metaverse will change healthcare | VentureBeat
15:14 TR News; COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/
15:14 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:23 TR News; Mokin M.2 NVMe to USB Adapter with Western Digital 250GB WD Blue SN550 Drive under Linux https://bioslevel.com/reviews/2022/mokin-m2-nvme-to-usb-adapter-with-western-digital-250gb-wd-blue-sn550-drive
15:23 TR Bot; Mokin M.2 NVMe to USB Adapter with Western Digital 250GB WD Blue SN550 Drive | NVMe to USB, Fast Mobile Storage
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15:24 TR News; How To COMPLETELY Remove Applications On Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Dv9zx_K3YMo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Dv9zx_K3YMo
15:24 TR Bot; How To COMPLETELY Remove Applications On Linux - Invidious
15:26 TR News; YANUB: yet another (nearly) useless blog: Tutorial: analysis of multiwavelength fast kinetics data https://vince-debian.blogspot.com/2022/10/tutorial-analyse-multiwavelength-fast.html
15:26 TR Bot; YANUB: yet another (nearly) useless blog: Tutorial: analysis of multiwavelength fast kinetics data
15:28 TR News; People's senses harmed by COVID-19 https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1128692167/yankee-candle-review-amazon-covid-twitter-study-covid19-pandemic-biden
15:28 TR Bot; What a viral study on Yankee candles can teach us about COVID data : NPR
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15:33 TR News; At least they didn't call computers "HEY HI" this time https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/20/robots-automating-restaurant-industry/
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15:33 TR Bot; Meet the robots coming to a restaurant near you - The Washington Post
15:35 TR News; Two companies without a future make up buzzwords like "metaverse" and hope gimmicks, not just lies (defrauding shareholders), will help the losses be tolerated https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/10/metaverse-style-avatars-are-now.html
15:35 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Metaverse-style avatars are now available in Microsoft Teams
15:36 TR News; New system designs nanomaterials that conduct heat in specific ways https://news.mit.edu/2022/nanomaterials-conduct-heat-chips-1007
15:36 TR Bot; New system designs nanomaterials that conduct heat in specific ways | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
15:39 TR News; "But $2.5b was a bargain, because it allowed the company's original investors (notably the Saudi royals) to offload their Uber shares on credulous suckers when the company IPOed." https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/09/herbies-revenge/#100-billion-here-100-billion-there-pretty-soon-youre-talking-real-money
15:39 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 09 Oct 2022 $100 billion later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
15:40 TR News; "Thomas Kinkade, the self-proclaimed "Painter of Light," produced over 1,000 paintings in his life. His company claimed that his paintings hung in "one out of every twenty American homes." Nevertheless, art critics generally wrote Kinkade off describing his artwork as kitsch, naive imitation, gratuitous, or lacking more profound thought." https://matt-rickard.com/personal-data-training-corpus
15:40 TR Bot; A Personal Training Corpus
15:41 TR News; "You either buy the cheapest undifferentiated items or the best-in-class items from a company with high brand equity. Fast-fashion vs. luxury brands." https://matt-rickard.com/middle-squeeze
15:41 TR Bot; The Middle Squeeze
15:42 TR News; Impact of fast-melting ice | UDaily https://www.udel.edu/udaily/2022/september/arctic-ocean-acidification-climate-sea-ice-wei-jun-cai/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.udel.edu/udaily/2022/september/arctic-ocean-acidification-climate-sea-ice-wei-jun-cai/
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15:42 TR Bot; Impact of fast-melting ice | UDaily
15:43 TR News; Jackson, Mississippis water disaster is a crime of capitalism - World Socialist Web Site https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/07/pers-s07.html Source: WSWS | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/09/07/pers-s07.html
15:43 TR Bot; Jackson, Mississippis water disaster is a crime of capitalism - World Socialist Web Site
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15:49 TR News; "The arrest took place just weeks after the inauguration of Ferdinand Marcos Jr., the son of the former U.S.-backed dictator." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/12/filipino_activist_walden_bello_arrested_cyber
15:49 TR Bot; Filipino Activist Walden Bello Speaks Out After Arrest Just Weeks After Marcos Jr. Inauguration | Democracy Now!
15:50 TR News; "In his latest essay, Professor Hudson digs deeper into Germanys suicidal economic/financial policies; their effect on the already falling euro and hints at some possibilities for fast integrating Eurasia and the Global South as a whole to try to break the Hegemons stranglehold." https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/escaping-the-western-rentier/
15:50 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/escaping-the-western-rentier/ )
15:51 TR News; Vishwa Guru India Needs to Learn from Southeast Asias Pluralist Ethos https://thewire.in/culture/southeast-asia-vishwaguru-pluralist Source: The Wirecutter | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thewire.in/culture/southeast-asia-vishwaguru-pluralist
15:51 TR Bot; Vishwa Guru India Needs to Learn from Southeast Asias Pluralist Ethos
15:53 TR News; "The years since the late 1700s have been marked by waves of struggle for a more democratic, egalitarian society that have repeatedly been rolled back by power elites. From 18th century political revolutions, to 19th century labor struggles, to civil rights struggles, to the cultural uprisings of the 1960s, peoples movements have made gains." https://theraven.substack.com/p/democracy-versus-the-megamachine
15:53 TR Bot; Democracy versus the Megamachine - by Patrick Mazza
15:54 TR News; "The capitalist economic system has major failures. It generates extreme, socially divisive inequalities of wealth and income. It consistently fails to achieve full employment" https://truthout.org/articles/grades-are-capitalism-in-action-lets-get-them-out-of-our-schools/
15:54 TR Bot; Grades Are Capitalism in Action. Let's Get Them Out of Our Schools.
15:55 TR News; Nobel Winner Svante Pbo Discovered the Neandertal in Our Genes - Scientific American https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/nobel-winner-svante-paeaebo-discovered-the-neandertal-in-our-genes/ Source: Scientific American | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.scientificamerican.com/article/nobel-winner-svante-paeaebo-discovered-the-neandertal-in-our-genes/
15:55 TR Bot; Nobel Winner Svante Pbo Discovered the Neandertal in Our Genes - Scientific American
15:58 TR News; "The International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance just issued the Global State of Democracy Report 2021. It says that the United States is a country where democracy is backsliding." https://tomdispatch.com/optimism-of-the-will/
15:58 TR Bot; of the Will - TomDispatch.com
15:59 TR News; Richard Wolff on School Grades as Capitalist Control - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/13/school-grades-as-capitalist-control/ Source: Neritam
15:59 TR Bot; School Grades as Capitalist Control neritam
16:00 TR News; Fake ration cards or faulty Aadhaar data? https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/fake-ration-cards-or-faulty-aadhaar-data/ Source: ruralindiaonline | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/fake-ration-cards-or-faulty-aadhaar-data/
16:00 TR Bot; Fake ration cards or faulty Aadhaar data?
16:01 TR News; "Neither Windows 2000 Professional, nor Windows NT 4.0 Workstation could make it through their installers without triggering a blue screen of death" https://rubenerd.com/windows-2000-in-qemu-on-an-m1-mac/ messing with proprietary software is a waste of time
16:01 TR Bot; Windows 2000 in QEMU on an M1 Mac
16:03 TR News; "The judicial proceedings against Julian Assange give a faux legality to the state persecution of the most important and courageous journalist of our generation." https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-puppets-and-the-puppet-masters
16:03 TR Bot; The Puppets and the Puppet Masters
16:04 TR News; NPM is Microsoft malware source https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/10/npm-chalk/ avoid. It's not safe. http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/
16:04 TR Bot; How to use NPM Chalk to colorize and format your console output
16:04 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XVIII The Story of NPM | Techrights
16:05 TR News; "Since Twitter seems to be about to dive back into being the hosting platform of choice for neo-nazis, I don't want there to be any gap in my Fediverse access; I've set up a new Mastodon account at @roguelazer@tenforward.social2. Hopefully it'll be another great community, like mastodon.technology was." https://www.roguelazer.com/2022/10/mastodon-move/
16:06 TR Bot; website: Mastodon Move
16:06 TR News; Bayesian biostatistics procedures matching frequentist confidence intervals https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/03/freq-bayes-ci.html
16:06 TR Bot; Bayesian biostatistics procedures matching frequentist confidence intervals
16:08 TR News; "An Adelaide Channel 7 weather forecaster used to say itd be chwenty degrees." https://rubenerd.com/mispronunciations-i-remember/
16:08 TR Bot; Mispronunciations I remember
16:09 TR News; "Economic expansion remains the yardstick of success at the global and national levels." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/its-time-acknowledge-endless-growth-model-under-capitalism-unsustainable
16:09 TR Bot; Opinion | It's Time to Acknowledge the Endless Growth Model Under Capitalism Is Unsustainable | John Feffer
16:10 TR News; Is there a secret Paris agreement that we dont know about? https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/14/is-there-a-secret-paris-agreement-that-we-dont-know-about/
16:10 TR Bot; Is there a secret Paris agreement that we dont know about? neritam
16:11 TR News; "As railroad workers prepare for a confrontation against the corporations, the government and the union bureaucracies that falsely claim to represent them, they must learn from and grapple with their own history." https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/10/debs-o10.html
16:11 TR Bot; Eugene V. Debs and the struggle of railroaders - World Socialist Web Site
16:12 TR News; "The US/NATO confrontation with Russia in Ukraine is achieving just the opposite of Americas aim of preventing China, Russia and their allies from acting independently of U.S." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/08/how-to-resist-the-empires-neoliberal-debt-trap/
16:12 TR Bot; to Resist the Empires Neoliberal Debt Trap - CounterPunch.org
16:13 TR News; "The German public was coming to understand what it will mean if their steel companies, fertilizer companies, glass companies and toilet-paper companies were shutting down. These companies were forecasting that they would have to go out of business entirely or shift operations to the United States" https://michael-hudson.com/2022/10/the-euro-without-german-industry/
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16:14 TR News; "Median rent across the country is over $2,000 for the first time ever. And people simply cant afford it." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/11/activists_call_biden_address_rent_crisis
16:14 TR Bot; As Rent Soars & Evictions Spike, Will Biden Address Housing Crisis with Same Urgency as Gas Prices? | Democracy Now!
16:17 TR News; Lilbits: Linux on the Star64 RISC-V single-board computer, Game Boy cartridges on the Steam Deck, and fitness tracking on the Pixel Watch (is not optional) - Liliputing https://liliputing.com/lilbits-linux-on-the-star64-risc-v-single-board-computer-game-boy-cartridges-on-the-steam-deck-and-fitness-tracking-on-the-pixel-watch-is-not-optional/ Source: Liliputing
16:17 TR Bot; Linux on the Star64 RISC-V single-board computer, Game Boy cartridges on the Steam Deck, and fitness tracking on the Pixel Watch (is not optional) - Liliputing
16:18 TR News; "Now Pine64 notes that developer Icenowy Zheng has made great strides in getting the Debian-based AOSC Linux to run on the board." https://liliputing.com/lilbits-linux-on-the-star64-risc-v-single-board-computer-game-boy-cartridges-on-the-steam-deck-and-fitness-tracking-on-the-pixel-watch-is-not-optional/
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:23 TR News; SpellBinding: CDEGLTN Wordo: WOOLY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-16.gmi
16:24 TR News; Linux in the Ham Shack (LHS) Episode #484: The Weekender XCVII https://lhspodcast.info/2022/10/lhs-episode-484-the-weekender-xcvii-2/
16:24 TR Bot; LHS Episode #484: The Weekender XCVII | Linux in the Ham Shack
16:25 TR News; "Forum member don570 has created a Audacity SFS for EasyOS, ported from FatDog." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/audacity-313-sfs-created.html
16:25 TR Bot; Audacity 3.1.3 SFS created
16:32 TR News; (NEW): OE, EasyOS, and FatDog Development http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/OE_EasyOS_and_FatDog_Development.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/OE_EasyOS_and_FatDog_Development.gmi
16:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines OE, EasyOS, and FatDog Development
16:33 -Shelob/Wallops-We just released a blog post highlighting some new and upcoming features of the network. If you are a chanop, the new features may be of particular interest to you.
16:34 TR News; Pisi 2.3.1 released https://www.pisilinux.org/ GNU/Linux distro from Turkey
16:34 TR Bot; Pisi GNU/Linux - zgrlk imdi Balad...
16:35 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Security_Leftovers.gmi
16:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
16:35 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, Full Circle Weekly News, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Shows_and_Videos_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Full_Circle_Weekly_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Shows_and_Videos_Linux_in_the_Ham_Shack_Full_Circle_Weekly_News.gmi
16:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Linux in the Ham Shack, Full Circle Weekly News, and More
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16:38 TR News; A bit of a distraction from vastly more Exchange servers that got cracked because Microsoft had intentionally ignored active exploits https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/137164/apt/zimbra-cve-2022-41352-exploitation.html
16:38 TR Bot; Threat actors hacked hundreds of servers by exploiting Zimbra CVE-2022-41352 bugSecurity Affairs
16:38 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/today_s_howtos.gmi
16:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
16:50 frog; higher clock frequencies and memory data rates doesn't make a computer more powerful
16:51 frog; and most of it is not realtime-capable either
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; pure RT is impossible
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; by definition
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; but you can get close to it
16:52 frog; wrong, it is possible to design and implement fully synchronous finite state-machines
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; even realtime calls
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; theya re not realtime
16:52 schestowitz[TR]; there is latency
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; and there is no way to make action and callback happen in parallel
16:53 frog; wrong, it is possible to design and implement fully synchronous finite state-machines
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; not in chips
16:54 frog; to guarantee any maximum latency is not violated
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; a way edged scale goes up on one side when you press down
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; but on a computer it would not work like that
16:54 frog; wrong, it is possible to design and implement fully synchronous finite state-machines
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; yes, but if you specify a latency >0, then it's pseudo RT
16:54 frog; wrong
16:54 schestowitz[TR]; you tell me
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; how do you build a simulating machine with a chips that responds like a scale
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; without speculation
16:56 schestowitz[TR]; like "hand is very close to the button"
16:56 schestowitz[TR]; "finger pressing down"
16:57 schestowitz[TR]; physical car wheel
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; versus "power electreonic steering
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 125.91
16:59 TR News; Antitrust is and always has been about fairness https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/10/play-fair/#bedoya
16:59 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 10 Oct 2022 Antitrust is and always has been about fairness Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
17:00 TR News; "The program `btrbk` is simple, it requires a configuration file `/etc/btrbk.conf` defining which volume you want to snapshot regularly, where to make them accessible and how long you want to keep them." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-07-nixos-btrfs-continuous-snapshots.html
17:00 TR Bot; Solene'% : Linux BTRFS continuous snapshots
17:00 frog; https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-sanctions-china-semiconductors-industry-b2202941.html
17:00 TR Bot; US sanctions on Chinese semiconductors decapitate industry, experts say | The Independent
17:01 TR News; Sketch Design Challenge: App Icons https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/sketch-design-challenge-icons/ art
17:01 TR Bot; Sketch Design Challenge: App Icons - Jim Nielsens Blog
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; frog: you just changed the subject
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17:02 schestowitz[TR]; us sanctioning the manufcaturers?
17:02 schestowitz[TR]; foot, meet shotggun
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17:04 scientes17; XRevan86 what was that SIP service you recommended again?
17:05 scientes17; oh I will have to ask again, as I need to open a bank account and get a bank card
17:09 TR News; "As it turns out, it depends on how you create and use the components. In my test setup I have an HTML document, a stylesheet and three different components." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day10/
17:09 TR Bot; Day 10: global styles and web components - Manuel Matuzovi
17:09 TR News; "In this article, I present one simple way to future-proof SQL." https://hakibenita.com/future-proof-sql
17:09 TR Bot; Future Proofing SQL with Carefully Placed Errors | Haki Benita
17:11 TR News; "One thing I miss about the blogging days is the ability to comment on current events short notice. It's much harder with video than in writing. This is why on my YouTube channel, we now have a weekly Science News episode." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-first-ever-episode-of-science-news.html
17:11 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The First Ever Episode of Science News Without the Gobbledygook
17:12 TR News; Beta ratio distribution for SciPy https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/05/beta-ratio-scipy.html
17:12 TR Bot; Beta ratio distribution for SciPy
17:13 TR News; "Using tools that simplify certain tasks makes our work more efficient so we can focus on the things that provide more value." https://austingil.com/under-engineered-productivity-over-engineered-distraction/
17:13 TR Bot; Under-Engineered Productivity > Over-Engineered Distractions
17:15 TR News; "No conflicts with your tree. There will be a conflict when you merge the kbuild tree, due to us renaming head_fsl_booke.S to head_85xx.S. The resolution is mostly trivial, linux-next has the correct result if it's unclear." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/9/123
17:15 TR Bot; LKML: Michael Ellerman: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-6.1-1 tag
17:18 TR News; Akademy 2022 talk: Konquering the World Are We There Yet? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx4)
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:21 XRevan86; scientes17: Novofon
17:22 TR News; Reproducible man-db databases https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~cjwatson/blog/reproducible-man-db-databases.html
17:22 TR Bot; Reproducible man-dbdatabases | Colin Watson's blog
17:30 TR News; "Flight shaming is a social movement that originated in Sweden a few years ago. Its aim is to discourage people from flying because its bad for the environment. But lets be honest, were not going to give up flying just because some Swedes think we should." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/10/can-we-make-flying-green.html
17:30 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Can we make flying "Green"?
17:31 TR News; "We can leverage SciPy's numerical optimisation and root-finding functions to compute the highest density interval directly from the distribution. We can achieve this by solving for the narrowest interval which covers 95% of the distribution (or some other desired level)." https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/06/scipy-hdi.html
17:31 TR Bot; Directly computing HDIs from PDFs in SciPy
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17:58 starstreak; linucks btw
17:59 TR News; 2022
18:02 starstreak; Even Amiga gets kernel 6: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/10/15/2124215/linux-kernel-60-released-for-the-amigaone-x1000x5000-powerpc-based-amigaos-computers
18:02 TR Bot; Linux Kernel 6.0 Released for the AmigaOne X1000/X5000 PowerPC-Based AmigaOS Computers - Slashdot
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18:14 starstreak; Elon Musk releases a perfume called "Burnt Hair" - https://idle.slashdot.org/story/22/10/15/2050234/elon-musks-newest-venture-selling-a-100-perfume
18:14 TR Bot; Elon Musk's Newest Venture: Selling a $100 Perfume - Slashdot
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; musk does not hasve hair
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; he has hair plugs
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 starstreak; it looks real enough
18:21 starstreak; https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/22/10/14/2353205/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-prequel-ends-season-one-what-did-you-think
18:21 TR Bot; Amazon's 'Lord of the Rings' Prequel Ends Season One. What Did You Think? - Slashdot
18:21 *starstreak downloads
18:22 starstreak; the show cost $700 million to make :O
18:24 TR News; Australia Reports 17.1% More Deaths Than the Historical Average Following the COVID-19 Wave, Let's Look at the Data https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australia-post-covid-spike/
18:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive Australia Reports 17.1% More Deaths Than the Historical Average Following the COVID-19 Wave, Lets Look at the Data
18:29 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Android_Leftovers.gmi
18:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
18:29 TR News; (NEW): Whats new in GNOME 43? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/What_s_new_in_GNOME_43.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/What_s_new_in_GNOME_43.gmi
18:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Whats new in GNOME 43?
18:42 TR News; An Australian COVID-19 Surge https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australian-covid19-surge/
18:42 TR Bot; Blog Archive An Australian COVID-19 Surge
18:53 TR News; Linux Kernel 6.0 Released for the AmigaOne X1000/X5000 PowerPC-Based AmigaOS Computers https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/10/15/2124215/linux-kernel-60-released-for-the-amigaone-x1000x5000-powerpc-based-amigaos-computers
18:54 TR News; ICBM pays slaves with panda NFTs... if they celebrate ICBM. Like Microsoft with Vista 7 "parties" https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-37
18:54 TR Bot; Fedora Badges
18:57 TR News; Wine Dev 7.19 Released, Heres how to install it in Ubuntu https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/10/wine-dev-7-19-released-heres-how-to-install-it-in-ubuntu/
18:57 TR Bot; Wine Dev 7.19 Released, Heres how to install it in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook
18:58 TR News; COVID-19 instant impact https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/
18:58 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers
18:59 TR News; "I wanted to know how big an impact could be seen in younger people, knowing that COVID-19 mostly kills old people." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australia-post-covid-spike/
18:59 TR News; COVID-19 deaths over the years https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australian-covid19-surge/
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 141.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.60
19:02 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel: Hardware, AmigaOS Computer Support, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linux_Kernel_Hardware_AmigaOS_Computer_Support_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Linux_Kernel_Hardware_AmigaOS_Computer_Support_and_More.gmi
19:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel: Hardware, AmigaOS Computer Support, and More
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19:17 reptilian_thrills; "its a bit like that song, 'sunday, bloody sunday...' really captures the boredom and frustration of a sunday"
19:18 reptilian_thrills; "yknow i hate to do this alan, but sunday bloody sunday is actually about a masscre in derry"
19:18 reptilian_thrills; "well im never gonna listen to that song again..."
19:19 reptilian_thrills; /me hopes its derry, just because if its dublin or sth its a smaller version of the same mistake
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:27 dope_dealer; hey erybody
19:28 reptilian_thrills; dont be a dope, just say "nope"
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19:29 TR News; Links 16/10/2022: ArchLabs 2022.10.15 Out and GIMP Developer Website Revived | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/gimp-developer-website-revived/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/16/gimp-developer-website-revived/
19:29 TR Bot; Links 16/10/2022: ArchLabs 2022.10.15 Out and GIMP Developer Website Revived | Techrights
19:30 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
19:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
19:30 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Offline Navigation System, Floccus, And Google's KataOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Free_Software_Offline_Navigation_System_Floccus_And_Google_s_Ka.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Free_Software_Offline_Navigation_System_Floccus_And_Google_s_Ka.gmi
19:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Offline Navigation System, Floccus, And Google's KataOS
19:30 TR News; (NEW): Games and Devices: Steam Deck, Star64, and SparkFun http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Games_and_Devices_Steam_Deck_Star64_and_SparkFun.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Games_and_Devices_Steam_Deck_Star64_and_SparkFun.gmi
19:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games and Devices: Steam Deck, Star64, and SparkFun
19:30 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Proprietary_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Proprietary_Leftovers.gmi
19:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Leftovers
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20:11 starstreak; linucks btw
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:35 MinceR; 16 175413 < schestowitz[TR]> but on a computer it would not work like that
20:35 MinceR; it wouldn't even work like that on a scale
20:35 MinceR; even that effect travels at most with c
20:35 MinceR; (and in this case, probably actually at the speed of sound in that medium)
20:44 TR News; Sven Hoexter: CentOS 9, stunnel, an openssl memory leak and a VirtualBox crash http://sven.stormbind.net/blog/posts/centos_c9s_stunnel_memleak/
20:44 TR Bot; CentOS 9, stunnel, an openssl memory leak and a VirtualBox crash
20:45 TR News; "PFA, the patch that enables support for the next generation AMD Zen4 CPU via -march=znver4. This is a basic enablement patch and as of now the costings, tunings are kept same as znver3." https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-October/603486.html
20:45 TR Bot; [PATCH] [X86_64]: Enable support for next generation AMD Zen4 CPU
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20:54 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/weekend-random-randomness-8-20-22-8.jpg
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 147.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 127.28
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21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:26 AdmFubar; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/explained-how-lawsuit-targeting-google-can-change-the-internet-forever-11432481.html
21:26 TR Bot; Why a new lawsuit targeting Google & YouTube can potentially change the internet forever- Technology News, Firstpost
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; seems like clickbait ;-)
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; they don't even say what the lawsuit is about
21:35 TR News; Hyprland The Greatest Wayland Compositor Ever? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=e89w9IFFut0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/e89w9IFFut0
21:36 TR Bot; Hyprland The Greatest Wayland Compositor Ever? - Invidious
21:39 TR News; Who cares what proprietary software of Microsoft does... gemini://pwshnotes.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-16-auto-pull.gmi
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21:54 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/meta_visions-instagram-1.jpg
22:00 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/meta_visions-instagram-4.jpg
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22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 TR News; "But of course we know that no employer would ever abuse functionality like that, right?" https://palant.info/2022/10/06/scirge-when-your-employer-mandates-spyware/
22:20 TR Bot; Scirge: When your employer mandates spyware | Almost Secure
22:21 TR News; "Similar to my SciPy beta ratio distribution, we can package these functions into a SciPy rv_continuous, which allows us to avail ourselves of the familiar SciPy syntax for working with probability distributions. The implementation is available here." https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/07/scipy-beta-odds-ratio.html
22:21 TR Bot; SciPy distribution for the odds ratio of independent beta variables
22:23 TR News; "Someone bootstrapping a machine with the intent to upgrade will need a much larger power supply and cooling system from the outset, which will price out more people. That sucks." https://rubenerd.com/thinking-about-amds-7000-series-cpus/
22:23 TR Bot; Thinking about AMDs 7000 series CPUs
22:24 TR News; "I have some capital-T Thoughts about immediate mode GUIs now, and the particular one I'm using, but those are best saved for another blog post that may or may not come to fruition" https://ntietz.com/blog/rc-week-3-recap/
22:24 TR Bot; RC Week 3: Returning to Math | nicholas@web
22:24 psydruid; AM5 is a total failure in the marketplace
22:24 TR News; "Let's say you want to self-host a Gemini capsule and a weblog. Maybe you'll use a Raspberry Pi or VPS server. Typically, you'd install (or get a pre-installed) operating system, like Debian/Ubuntu. You might then apt install a webserver like nginx, and pip3 install a Gemini server like JetForce." http://tobykurien.com/simpler-linux-selfhosting/
22:25 TR Bot; Simpler Linux self-hosting with tmux and bubblewrap | Toby Kurien
22:25 psydruid; Phoronix: please buy more AMD
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22:26 TR News; "So, if you are planning to follow the advice of energy experts here in Europe (and watch out, quite a few are not experts at all, just echo chambers) to reduce your electric energy consumption and save money, consider the following points (their idea is to unplug chargers you dont use)." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/10/08/quickpost-standby-power-consumption-of-an-old-linear-power-supply/
22:26 TR Bot; Quickpost: Standby Power Consumption Of An Old Linear Power Supply | Didier Stevens
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22:26 TR News; "The specific timings will vary based on the system which runs the test(s), but there's no threading involved so the relative performance is probably comparable." https://blog.steve.fi/trivial_benchmarks_of_toy_languages.html
22:26 TR Bot; Trivial benchmarks of toy languages
22:27 TR News; "I have worked on numerous projects that involve finding all of the URLs in the sitemaps associated with a website. For example, one of the first steps the IndieWeb Search crawler takes when it starts crawling a website is to find all of the URLs in all of the sitemaps." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/09/announcing-getsitemap/
22:27 TR Bot; Announcing getsitemap, a Python library for sitemap URL retrieval | James' Coffee Blog
22:28 TR News; "This weeks focus is on the competent end of kerosene lanterns and lighting - so, mostly, cold blast lanterns of a range of models! Ive been adding lanterns to my collection for a while" https://www.sevarg.net/2022/10/09/keropunk-part-1-kerosene-lanterns/
22:28 TR Bot; Keropunk Part 1: Lanterns
22:29 TR News; "I am excited to announce that IndieWeb Utils is now in v0.3.1. This update is the culmination of months of work from project contributors. Before I get any further, I want to note a special thank you to James, Tantek and Angelo for their collaboration in this project." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/10/announcing-indieweb-utils-v0-3-1/
22:29 TR Bot; Announcing IndieWeb Utils v0.3.1 | James' Coffee Blog
22:29 TR News; Boredom land with NixOS https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-10-nixos-is-the-most-boring-os.html
22:29 TR Bot; Solene'% : Boredom land with NixOS
22:31 TR News; "Functional color notations that existed before CSS Color Module Level 4 (rgb(), rgba(), hsl(), hsla()) used to only except comma-separated lists of arguments. That changes with Module Level 4, now you can also provide space-separated arguments." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day11/
22:31 TR Bot; Day 11: space-separated functional color notations - Manuel Matuzovi
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22:36 TR News; "Why more or less modern CSS? Because some topics will be about cutting-edge features, while other stuff has been around for quite a while already, but I just have little to no experience with it." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day12/
22:36 TR Bot; Day 12: max() trickery - Manuel Matuzovi
22:37 TR News; "I use YouTube as a video hosting service because it's largely predictable and it's the evil I know. I'm starting to try to reduce my dependencies on large centralized systems like YouTube and one of the ways I want to do this is by hosting my own video." https://xeiaso.net/blog/hls-experiment
22:37 TR Bot; Site Update: HLS support - Xe
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22:41 starstreak; welcome back reptilian_thrills :D
22:41 reptilian_thrills; thank you <3
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22:48 TR News; "My understanding is that this paper was very influential in its time. The architecture it describes is a shared-nothing architecture for distributed databases with very nice scaling properties" https://ntietz.com/blog/review-gamma-database-paper/
22:48 TR Bot; Paper review: The Gamma Database Project | nicholas@web
22:49 MinceR; attack surface btw
22:50 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> attack surface btw <- <3
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22:53 TR News; "Now, when you log in your user, `surf` will be started automatically, and you can't escape it, so you will need to switch to a TTY if you want to disable it, or through ssh." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-10-11-openbsd-kiosk.html
22:53 TR Bot; Solene'% : A kiosk computer running OpenBSD
22:54 TR News; "I like when websites provide direct links to headings on the page. In Mozilla Developer Network documentation, headings are clickable." https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/11/fragmention-links/
22:54 TR Bot; Adding fragmention links to my website | James' Coffee Blog
22:58 TR News; Scraping the bottom of the barrel in assault on privacy - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-in-assault-on-privacy/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/scraping-the-bottom-of-the-barrel-in-assault-on-privacy/
22:58 TR Bot; Scraping the bottom of the barrel in assault on privacy - Michael West
22:58 reptilian_thrills; /me has the better version of baphomet os
22:58 TR News; Surveillance around you https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-get-matter-on-your-devices/
22:58 TR Bot; How to get Matter on your devices - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
22:59 reptilian_thrills; i think ill call it lgbtjew os just to fuck with dr sixel
22:59 MinceR; :)
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 132.61
22:59 reptilian_thrills; (its not really an os, but thats a minor issue)
23:01 reptilian_thrills; first thing is its graphical-- but only if you type in /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt05 -auth /etc/X11/xenodm/authdir/authfiles/i-love-jews at the command line
23:01 reptilian_thrills; startx simply wont do
23:02 reptilian_thrills; you could script it, but the man page tells you not to For No Actual Reason
23:02 MinceR; lol
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23:02 reptilian_thrills; but thats still more graphical than nazi os
23:02 reptilian_thrills; in fairness though, dr sixel totally helped inspire this project
23:02 DaemonFC; So, it turned out that Walmart ended the COVID vaccine side effects policy completely in April.
23:02 reptilian_thrills; and unlike baph os this doesnt even pretend to be a real os
23:02 DaemonFC; So Mandy had to use 16 PPTO hours.
23:03 reptilian_thrills; its just a software directory ffs
23:03 MinceR; (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Set-Tail-Floof-To-Maximum-916997978
23:03 TR Bot; Tail Floof To Maximum by FurLined on DeviantArt
23:03 DaemonFC; I suspect that since people are aware of this, very few Walmart employees will get their boosters.
23:03 reptilian_thrills; it is at least designed to be easier to fork than the original
23:03 reptilian_thrills; if youre going to fork something (anything) from the fsf
23:03 reptilian_thrills; for fucks sake, make it more forkable than the original
23:04 reptilian_thrills; dr sixel totally helped inspire this project <- before i found out he was part of project paperclip
23:04 reptilian_thrills; or they wanted to get him for project paperclip but he was too nutty and whingy
23:04 reptilian_thrills; "if we hire him the other nazi researches will walk out"
23:05 reptilian_thrills; "we have to think of the project here"
23:05 reptilian_thrills; i would joke about the irony of literal nazis having a code of conduct but ibm beat me to it
23:05 reptilian_thrills; then again, thats better than what they would have done to me 80 years ago
23:06 MinceR; :>
23:07 reptilian_thrills; when der fuhrer sez, we is da master raaaace-- we heil! *kazoo* heil! *kazoo* right in attack sur-face!
23:07 MinceR; lol
23:08 reptilian_thrills; this may be the only world ive ever been on
23:08 reptilian_thrills; but its definitely the most insane world ive ever been on
23:09 reptilian_thrills; sometimes i really cant believe it
23:09 reptilian_thrills; i dont blame people for thinking this is a simulation. its totally cracked
23:09 reptilian_thrills; even leonard cohen said so
23:09 reptilian_thrills; more than once
23:09 MinceR; i've seen many simulations that were saner
23:09 reptilian_thrills; yeah and i dont blame you for preferring them
23:09 reptilian_thrills; this place is nuts
23:09 reptilian_thrills; and i mean the whole world
23:10 MinceR; even the ones where "The sanest place is behind a trigger"
23:10 reptilian_thrills; The sanest place is behind a trigger <- hell its worth a try
23:10 reptilian_thrills; nothing ventured, fucking boom
23:11 MinceR; (audio:music) https://apina.biz/191754.mp4?mode=sfw
23:11 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/191754.mp4
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23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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23:25 reptilian_thrills; /me removes the locate database
23:25 reptilian_thrills; when i delete a file i want it gone
23:25 reptilian_thrills; if i want a db ill setup a db
23:26 reptilian_thrills; i always did this in ubuntu. a lot of lightweight distros dont bother
23:26 reptilian_thrills; openbsd apparently thinks locate is really neat
23:26 reptilian_thrills; when i was in highschool i wanted to make something like locate, so its not all bad
23:26 reptilian_thrills; i still dont want it
23:27 reptilian_thrills; (i had a lot of floppies, and the thing about locate is it doesnt care if files are local or not)
23:27 reptilian_thrills; it will index what you want it to
23:27 reptilian_thrills; i removed updatedb too
23:28 reptilian_thrills; this is just from my installation, its not related to anything else
23:28 reptilian_thrills; though and actual distribution i made would not have updatedb on by default
23:29 reptilian_thrills; i think its a cron job because openbsd isnt into modern reinventing modern the modern wheel
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23:33 reptilian_thrills; /me was just talking about modern reinventing modern the modern wheel
23:34 starstreak; i hope gnome 4.x is based on .net
23:34 reptilian_thrills; ROFL
23:35 starstreak; gtk#
23:35 reptilian_thrills; https://zdnet.com/article/good-news-gnome-is-being-rewritten-in-csharp
23:35 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.zdnet.com/article/good-news-gnome-is-being-rewritten-in-csharp/ )
23:35 starstreak; lol 404
23:35 reptilian_thrills; yeah the bot isnt fooled
23:35 reptilian_thrills; wait thats just a network problem
23:36 reptilian_thrills; zdnet: OH NO WE ARE BEING DDOSED BECAUSE GAFAM HATES THE TRUTH!
23:36 starstreak; im using 3.2GB ram
23:36 starstreak; damn gnome lol
23:36 reptilian_thrills; rofl
23:36 reptilian_thrills; thats just the parts that are written in rust
23:36 starstreak; rust is actually pretty cool
23:37 reptilian_thrills; if you think the resource hogging is bad, check netstat
23:37 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> rust is actually pretty cool <- yeah clown computing is totally the future
23:37 starstreak; i dont think its "bad" per se
23:37 starstreak; i have 16GB of ram
23:37 reptilian_thrills; i dont think its "bad" per se <- people from osi had this as a bumper sticker in the 90s
23:37 reptilian_thrills; "it isnt SO BAD, is it brad?"-- dr frankenfurter
23:39 reptilian_thrills; they put crickets in our food and bugs in our kernel
23:40 reptilian_thrills; then they ddos us for telling the truth
23:40 MinceR; yeah, it's so cool that they "move fast and break things"
23:40 MinceR; who needs things that function anyway...
23:41 MinceR; is there a way to write an application on top of a web browser, but in rust, yet?
23:41 reptilian_thrills; i like linux but i wish it was written in javascript instead
23:41 MinceR; did you mean "typescript"?
23:42 reptilian_thrills; why cant we have a kerenl in a modern language
23:42 MinceR; it's not as "hip" or "cool" if it doesn't have extra bondage-and-discipline from MICROS~1 on top
23:42 reptilian_thrills; /me writes a kernel entirely in adobe flash
23:42 MinceR; lol
23:43 reptilian_thrills; finally a kernel that works good AND even looks good
23:43 reptilian_thrills; /me makes sure to give the kernel plenty of cool visual effects
23:43 reptilian_thrills; when it runs oom it shows a sad face like macs used to
23:44 reptilian_thrills; things are a bit over the top with tim cook though
23:44 reptilian_thrills; there used to be a sad mac icon
23:44 reptilian_thrills; now its a mac leaning against a wall on the sidewalk shooting up heroin
23:44 reptilian_thrills; someone please help sad mac
23:44 *MinceR helps with a gun
23:44 TR News; Microsoft AstroTurfing: GitHubs First Puppet CEO May Be Violating Wikipedia Rules With Reputation Laundering by Proxy (Hiding the Serial Strangler From Microsoft/GitHub) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/nat-friedman-theauthenticco/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/16/nat-friedman-theauthenticco/
23:44 TR Bot; Microsoft AstroTurfing: GitHubs First Puppet CEO May Be Violating Wikipedia Rules With Reputation Laundering by Proxy (Hiding the Serial Strangler From Microsoft/GitHub) | Techrights
23:45 reptilian_thrills; mincer uses gun on sad mac
23:45 reptilian_thrills; its super effective
23:46 dope_dealer; im high on mushrooms
23:47 MinceR; hi high on mushrooms, i'm dad
23:47 dope_dealer; hi dad
23:47 dope_dealer; are you going to put it in my butt again?
23:47 MinceR; yes
23:47 *MinceR gets a pipe bomb from his pocket
23:48 dope_dealer; kinky
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: no need to feed these treolls
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; they probably just try to put off regulars
23:49 dope_dealer; nerd
23:49 *dope_dealer smokes a blunt
23:50 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
23:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
23:53 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/10/15/1129305660/digital-license-plates-california
23:53 TR Bot; California drivers can now sport digital license plates on their cars : NPR
23:53 TR News; Seems like going in the WRONG direction https://www.maketecheasier.com/convert-pdf-to-microsoft-word/
23:53 TR Bot; How to Convert a PDF to Microsoft Word Document - Make Tech Easier
23:53 DaemonFC; For just an additional $240 a month on top of renewing your plate, you can get a "digital" license plate.
23:53 dope_dealer; everything runs on nigga-watts
23:53 DaemonFC; But you can pay even more for a license plate with "premium features".
23:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
23:53 schestowitz[TR]; I saw that
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; California stupidity
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; gimmicks
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; look ma! leds
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; oh, batteries went out
23:54 DaemonFC; I love adding costs to owning a car that serve no purpose at all!
23:54 schestowitz[TR]; showoff
23:54 DaemonFC; mjg59_, can finally get his GULAGSJW4U vanity plate.
23:54 DaemonFC; With premium features/.
23:55 DaemonFC; So he doesn't miss out.
23:55 schestowitz[TR]; "ASSMAN"
23:55 DaemonFC; B4THR0B3
23:55 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws
23:55 TR Bot; Seinfeld - Assman - Dr. Cosmo Kramer, Proctology - Invidious
23:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That was nice of Walmart. They make you take PPTO hours for vaccine side effects now.
23:57 DaemonFC; So you get to choose between taking sick days for the vaccine or winging it and risk getting hurt a lot more by COVID.
23:57 DaemonFC; It turned out that they had to either point Mandy or make him use PPTO hours, so he chose to use PPTO hours.
23:58 DaemonFC; The paid time off on top of no points ended last August, and then the "no paid time, but we'll clear points" policy ended in April.
23:58 DaemonFC; The managers don't even know what the policy is anymore, which tells you how many people working there have taken the bivalent booster now.
23:58 DaemonFC; It's for white collar assholes.
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23:59 DaemonFC; Who can afford to risk feeling like crap for a couple days because they can be a recluse in a $3 million house anyway.
23:59 DaemonFC; Like mjg59_
23:59 TR News; (NEW): LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (41/2022): Plasma 5.26 and SGX 540 reverse engineering http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_41_2022_Plasma_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_41_2022_Plasma_5.gmi
23:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (41/2022): Plasma 5.26 and SGX 540 reverse engineering
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