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beginning of new day, October 15

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8 AM, October 15

08:08 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Ukrainian defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov posted on Twitter that, over the course of the war in Ukraine" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/14/ukrainian-defense-minister-claims-russia-has-used-up-two-thirds-of-its-missile-arsenal | Source: Meduza

↺ https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/14/ukrainian-defense-minister-claims-russia-has-used-up-two-thirds-of-its-missile-arsenal

08:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io | NO TITLE

08:09 schestowitz-TR; twitter diplomacy

08:09 schestowitz-TR; soon controlled by 'pedo guy' and terrorist MbS

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08:31 techrights-sec; Soon? More like already controlled, at least by the latter since many years ago

08:31 schestowitz-TR; apropos, you sent a very timely link about china

08:31 schestowitz-TR; and how they police hashtags and such to identify and mute protest-related messages

08:31 schestowitz-TR; the hashtag culture is like talking chalk and markinf yourself

08:31 schestowitz-TR; *marking

08:31 schestowitz-TR; *MARK zuckerberg

08:31 schestowitz-TR; no, not mark of the beast

08:31 schestowitz-TR; just marking people

08:31 schestowitz-TR; population control of sorts

08:31 schestowitz-TR; not the reproduction sense

08:31 schestowitz-TR; but more like crowd control, the hoi polloi

08:32 techrights-sec; They're just feeding a huge disinformation and manipulation engine by using

08:32 techrights-sec; twitter in place of official channels of communication.

08:32 techrights-sec; That muting has been going on for ages and ages, I presume not just by red china

08:32 techrights-sec; either.

08:32 techrights-sec; ack

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noon, October 15

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12:43 schestowitz-TR; the first is uk and xenophobia/sex leader ("market leader")

12:43 schestowitz-TR; the second is pro-GOP rag in US of A

12:43 schestowitz-TR; not very simular audience, but will check the wording now...

12:48 schestowitz-TR; the photography seems distinct

12:49 schestowitz-TR; dailyFail claims this to be "special investigation for [itself]"

12:49 schestowitz-TR; washington times cites aspanish-basded "human rights org"

12:49 schestowitz-TR; so they cannot both be trut?

12:49 schestowitz-TR; if you click on the dailymail author, onlu 2 articcles show up

12:49 schestowitz-TR; so it's john smith-like

12:49 schestowitz-TR; so you reckon spies might be feeding them these red-baiting pieces?

12:53 schestowitz-TR; some years ago I pointed out that murdoch rags kept attacking china

12:53 schestowitz-TR; after reupert had a nasty breakup with then-wife wendy deng (iirc, the name)

12:53 schestowitz-TR; but anyway, china is not trustworthy, we already know how they censor unis here

12:53 schestowitz-TR; and elsewhere

12:53 schestowitz-TR; it's like saudi money, but not derived from fossil fuel

12:53 techrights-sec; Yes, their "institutes" and the accompanying funding appear mostly vechicles

12:53 techrights-sec; for academic censorship and manipulation.

12:57 schestowitz-TR; analogy

12:57 schestowitz-TR; 1) microsoft loves open source

12:57 schestowitz-TR; 2) microsoft offers money

12:57 schestowitz-TR; 3) microsoft loves linus

12:57 schestowitz-TR; 4) mo money

12:57 schestowitz-TR; 5) microsoft enters board for (2) and (4)

12:57 schestowitz-TR; 6) microsoft threatens to withdraw money unless demands met

12:57 schestowitz-TR; here, the tuition fees (about 20k/year) are 'slush funds' fodder

12:57 schestowitz-TR; disclosure: I dated an mba student from china here

12:57 schestowitz-TR; we were intimate and I even settld her accounts from her after she left to beijing

12:57 schestowitz-TR; (no messy break-up basically)

12:57 techrights-sec; 5) is the worst, most damaging move they have been helped into by quislings

12:57 techrights-sec; ack

12:59 schestowitz-TR; the arms industry (on all sides) is a bigger enemy than putin/xi/russia/china

12:59 schestowitz-TR; nato is not innocent either

12:59 schestowitz-TR; peace means no armament needed -> they go out of business

12:59 schestowitz-TR; tentions= armament

12:59 schestowitz-TR; war=consumption

12:59 schestowitz-TR; they did this in south korea for ages

12:59 techrights-sec; ack


1 PM, October 15

13:02 techrights-sec; s korea:

13:02 techrights-sec; https://historycollection.com/some-of-historys-most-unexpected-plot-twists/15/

↺ https://historycollection.com/some-of-historys-most-unexpected-plot-twists/15/

13:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-historycollection.com | Some of History's Most Unexpected Plot Twists | History

13:04 schestowitz; https://fair.org/home/lockheed-martin-funded-experts-agree-south-korea-needs-more-lockheed-martin-missiles/

↺ https://fair.org/home/lockheed-martin-funded-experts-agree-south-korea-needs-more-lockheed-martin-missiles/

13:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Lockheed MartinFunded Experts Agree: South Korea Needs More Lockheed Martin Missiles - FAIR

13:04 schestowitz; https://fair.org/home/korean-voices-missing-from-major-papers-opinions-on-singapore-summit/

↺ https://fair.org/home/korean-voices-missing-from-major-papers-opinions-on-singapore-summit/

13:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Korean Voices Missing From Major Papers' Opinions on Singapore Summit - FAIR

13:04 schestowitz; https://fair.org/home/missile-defense-will-protect-you-from-north-korea-say-usa-todays-missile-defense-funded-sources/

↺ https://fair.org/home/missile-defense-will-protect-you-from-north-korea-say-usa-todays-missile-defense-funded-sources/

13:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | Missile Defense Will Protect You From North Korea, Say USA Today's Missile Defense-Funded Sources - FAIR

13:04 schestowitz; https://fair.org/home/cnns-portrayal-of-north-korea-as-lawless-aggressor-reverses-reality/

↺ https://fair.org/home/cnns-portrayal-of-north-korea-as-lawless-aggressor-reverses-reality/

13:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fair.org | CNNs Portrayal of North Korea as Lawless Aggressor Reverses Reality - FAIR

13:05 schestowitz-TR; the url you gave fails to work in falkon even with js on!

13:10 techrights-sec; https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-sanctions-un-nuclear-weapons

↺ https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-sanctions-un-nuclear-weapons

13:10 techrights-sec; the url had no javascript but seemed to work in FF

13:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cfr.org | What to Know About Sanctions on North Korea | Council on Foreign Relations

13:16 schestowitz-TR; gut feeling: china would have added troops and resources

13:16 schestowitz-TR; mcarthur considered nuking china near the border in two places, iirc

13:17 schestowitz-TR; one way or another, china wanted a buffer

13:17 schestowitz-TR; japan could never defeat china, just kill many people

13:17 schestowitz-TR; china does not have a shortage of people

13:17 schestowitz-TR; gut feeling: china would have added troops and resources

13:17 schestowitz-TR; mcarthur considered nuking china near the border in two places, iirc

13:17 schestowitz-TR; one way or another, china wanted a buffer

13:17 schestowitz-TR; japan could never defeat china, just kill many people

13:17 schestowitz-TR; china does not have a shortage of people

13:19 schestowitz-TR; a bit of z ero-sum game in africa over limited resources

13:19 schestowitz-TR; as with energy in north asia/europe

13:25 schestowitz-TR; going back to the original point (china), before liberation korea was japenese empire (since 1910 iirc), so this

13:25 schestowitz-TR; was a way for japan to have a go at china by land

13:25 schestowitz-TR; imagine if you will a "west hawaii" with many chinese military bases in it and then some more in mexico

13:32 techrights-sec; FWIW there are an awful lot of sites that won't render in FF, javascript or not

13:32 techrights-sec; , but do fine in Chromium without javascript

13:36 schestowitz-TR; fucking sjvn is once again pushing swpats

13:36 schestowitz-TR; marrying us and swpats

13:36 schestowitz-TR; for LFOIN

13:36 schestowitz-TR; the media is a shilling operation

13:36 schestowitz-TR; for unprincipled, undiscplined people

13:36 schestowitz-TR; and later they shut down and blame the 'cynical' readers

13:36 schestowitz-TR; otho, we've kept consistent and on-topic

13:36 schestowitz-TR; two trolls today in irc

13:36 schestowitz-TR; but we cope

13:36 schestowitz-TR; i still need more topics to cover

13:36 schestowitz-TR; but the "media" fails to give me any

13:36 schestowitz-TR; except doing "responses" to BS

13:36 schestowitz-TR; which is not a good topi

13:36 schestowitz-TR; it's reactionary

13:54 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/yuhong2/status/1581229126140448769#m

↺ https://nitter.it/yuhong2/status/1581229126140448769#m

13:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "@shanemcoyle Do you remember when the Google ads was removed from Techrights?"|nitter.it

13:54 schestowitz-TR; lol, not talking to unrelated people

13:55 schestowitz-TR; who are not even related to the site or linux

13:55 schestowitz-TR; *now

13:55 schestowitz-TR; trolls with a mental defect

13:59 techrights-sec; checking

13:59 techrights-sec; https://adf-magazine.com/2022/10/who-report-pandemic-successes-offer-lessons-for-future-outbreaks/

↺ https://adf-magazine.com/2022/10/who-report-pandemic-successes-offer-lessons-for-future-outbreaks/

13:59 techrights-sec; for your own home site

13:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-adf-magazine.com | WHO Report: Pandemic Successes Offer Lessons for Future Outbreaks - Africa Defense Forum


2 PM, October 15

14:05 schestowitz-TR; no offence, this article seems substance-free

14:05 schestowitz-TR; vague details

14:05 schestowitz-TR; WHO quotes

14:05 schestowitz-TR; lack of clear narrative

14:05 schestowitz-TR; and different from anything I've read

14:05 schestowitz-TR; 1) africa did not test mich

14:05 schestowitz-TR; 2) distancing hard

14:05 schestowitz-TR; 3) lack of documentation

14:05 schestowitz-TR; 4) swtronger immune resistance

14:05 schestowitz-TR; 5) WHO dropped the ball, should not be applauded

14:05 schestowitz-TR; 6) mortality very high to begin with

14:05 schestowitz-TR; WHO is like WIPO: UN in a suit and tie

14:05 schestowitz-TR; with a token "diversity" message

14:06 techrights-sec; https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40982771.html

↺ https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40982771.html

14:06 techrights-sec; grauniad:

14:06 techrights-sec; https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide

14:06 techrights-sec; -update-on-talks-with-us

14:06 techrights-sec; yes it is substandard

14:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.irishexaminer.com | Julian Assange makes final shortlist for human rights award

14:06 techrights-sec; https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/

↺ https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/

14:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide )

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/13/julian-assanges-supporters-call-on-australian-government-to-provide

14:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fake justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com

14:12 schestowitz-TR; at risk of being called racist

14:12 schestowitz-TR; people who live in an average african nation do not live very long

14:12 schestowitz-TR; not many maintenance drugs available

14:12 schestowitz-TR; and it's a fact that COVID-19 is an "old people" killer

14:12 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I did try to find some covid material

14:12 schestowitz-TR; but there's not much quality journalism

14:13 schestowitz-TR; in today's links file I saw just one links that merely mentioned it in passingf

14:13 schestowitz-TR; at most 2

14:13 schestowitz-TR; after 36 months it is "out of fashion" and does not attract many clicks

14:13 schestowitz-TR; hence, "not important"

14:13 schestowitz-TR; so what if in my age group there are now 10% more deaths?

14:13 schestowitz-TR; doesn't matter why, go warch some football match

14:13 schestowitz-TR; btw, last night I checked who john cambell is

14:13 schestowitz-TR; he's a nurse teacher with a phd in making medical info more widely accessible

14:13 schestowitz-TR; hence his very many videos with his lectures, since 15 years ago

14:13 schestowitz-TR; he is based in carlyle now, not too far from us

14:13 schestowitz-TR; i noticed he gets 'trolled' a bit, not just by MSM

14:13 schestowitz-TR; efforts to discredit his qualifications

14:13 techrights-sec; yes ad hominem is used 1) because it works, 2) there are no arguments of substance

14:13 techrights-sec; That connects to the ongoing smears againts JA

14:22 schestowitz-TR; for gulag, campbell is dead man walking

14:22 schestowitz-TR; they already decided he had violated "community guidelines"

14:22 schestowitz-TR; they just look for a second "trigger" for another strike

14:22 schestowitz-TR; he is well aware

14:22 schestowitz-TR; they can take down over 1000 videos in one fell swoop

14:22 schestowitz-TR; some have millions of views and cover covid19

14:22 schestowitz-TR; more like the way I've covered that for years

14:22 schestowitz-TR; and that 'defames' billbc and other outlets that don't disclose conflict of interest

14:22 schestowitz-TR; billPR needs to do more pieces tying that to "conpiracy theories"

14:22 schestowitz-TR; billBC already escalated to "debunking" the youtube man

14:22 schestowitz-TR; like this is "news"... having to respond to retired teacher with still-accessible

14:22 schestowitz-TR; youtube channel

14:22 schestowitz-TR; this has 'CPC' all over it (the tactics that us)

14:22 schestowitz-TR; *is

14:22 schestowitz-TR; but in china they would have gone to his home by now and 'help' him find therapists in some local clinic

14:22 schestowitz-TR; mark my words: his channel will be removed, it's just a question of when

14:22 schestowitz-TR; he has to apologise upfront for anything that might somehow be spun as racist

14:22 schestowitz-TR; and use terms like "dark-skinned" or "lactating persons"

14:22 schestowitz-TR; walking a tightrope

14:23 techrights-sec; CoC again :/

14:23 techrights-sec; That's their only purpose, sadly.

14:23 techrights-sec; most there know already to diversify hosting providers as an intermediate step

14:23 techrights-sec; towards actual self-hosting

14:23 techrights-sec; ^ topic ?

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14:28 techrights-sec; Even hiring a VPS would be a step forward for him

14:28 techrights-sec; Youtube pays basically nothing to anyone, that much is common knowledge

14:28 techrights-sec; Backups are necessary

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14:34 schestowitz-TR; [due to one-minute network outage, repetition below]

14:36 schestowitz-TR; self-hosting would be hard for him due to scale

14:36 schestowitz-TR; never mind dead links

14:36 schestowitz-TR; and followers who follow a url or platform

14:36 schestowitz-TR; without redirection/forwarding

14:36 schestowitz-TR; but remember, gulag is NOT free hosting

14:36 schestowitz-TR; they earn almost nothing from 20-min videos of 'boring' lecttures

14:36 schestowitz-TR; if's the curation that vcurries favours with regimes

14:36 schestowitz-TR; if not not, then tomorrow, or a decade later

14:36 schestowitz-TR; those who can delete history can decide what history is

14:36 schestowitz-TR; but first they need the centralisation

14:36 schestowitz-TR; of eyeballs/attention

14:36 schestowitz-TR; then they start flagging, intimidating, removing

14:36 schestowitz-TR; RT and hosts for RT ("empire files", chris hedges) invested a lot in youtube presence

14:36 schestowitz-TR; all flushed with the flick of a switch

14:36 schestowitz-TR; the next project maven contract might be fatter

14:36 schestowitz-TR; lunduke wrote about the TBs needed to host videos

14:36 schestowitz-TR; and also, more platforms is not self-hosting

14:36 schestowitz-TR; it's just more eggs in a basket

14:36 schestowitz-TR; this this scale it would work if everyone used peertube to get to his videos

14:36 schestowitz-TR; enough people online to go down and upstream

14:36 schestowitz-TR; but people are made or convinced to use "apps" and not even a web site

14:36 schestowitz-TR; or arbitrary site

14:36 schestowitz-TR; so if not youtube, then does not exist...

14:37 techrights-sec; https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/

↺ https://www.salon.com/2022/10/12/fake-justice-from-the-puppet-masters-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/

14:37 techrights-sec; yes ad hominem is used 1) because it works, 2) there are no arguments of substance

14:37 techrights-sec; That connects to the ongoing smears againts JA

14:37 techrights-sec; CoC again :/

14:37 techrights-sec; That's their only purpose, sadly.

14:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fake justice from the puppet-masters: The persecution of Julian Assange | Salon.com

14:37 techrights-sec; most there know already to diversify hosting providers as an intermediate step

14:37 techrights-sec; towards actual self-hosting

14:37 techrights-sec; ^ topic ?

14:37 techrights-sec; Even hiring a VPS would be a step forward for him

14:37 techrights-sec; Youtube pays basically nothing to anyone, that much is common knowledge

14:37 techrights-sec; Backups are necessary

14:37 techrights-sec; yes but mostly he just blathers these days

14:37 techrights-sec; correct, yet it is a step towards self-hosting

14:43 schestowitz-TR; at this stage, banning his channel (i.e. deleting everything) is all about optics

14:43 schestowitz-TR; or PR 'damage control'

14:43 schestowitz-TR; to avoid some of those twitter backlashstorms that typically are the only

14:43 schestowitz-TR; way to overturn a youtube "strike"

14:43 schestowitz-TR; but I'd tell him

14:43 schestowitz-TR; from my experience, "you're very likely on borrowed time now"

14:43 schestowitz-TR; they can of course (yes, seen this!) find something in some very old video

14:43 schestowitz-TR; which they claim offends someone

14:43 schestowitz-TR; even if not uniformly applied across a platform

14:43 schestowitz-TR; like how to use some p2p softare

14:43 schestowitz-TR; or some information on a security flaw

14:43 schestowitz-TR; then issue a strike against years-old videos

14:43 schestowitz-TR; and asking him to accept that it was bad _at the time_

14:43 schestowitz-TR; this is what snowden too spoke about when alluding to years upon years of mass surveillance

14:43 schestowitz-TR; and meticulous details about who you phoned, where you walked, and what they insist that means

14:43 schestowitz-TR; or jokes that did not age well as society's values changed

14:43 schestowitz-TR; or there's some new enermy du jour

14:43 schestowitz-TR; an old trip to see moscow for tourism might later become evidence of being a "spy"

14:43 schestowitz-TR; or see what they did to corbyn

14:43 schestowitz-TR; linking him to people who merely went to the same event

14:43 schestowitz-TR; this is a marriage of so-called 'SWJs' (outrage culture/culture) and military/spy agencies

14:43 schestowitz-TR; they use false pretenses or pretexts for entirely unrelated purposes

14:43 schestowitz-TR; such as election meddling

14:44 techrights-sec; it is also important to use the other platforms to get attention to the idea

14:44 techrights-sec; of *anything* other than Youtube, othewise it becomes all there is

14:44 techrights-sec; You could make an ennumerated list of all the options and explain why self-

14:44 techrights-sec; hosting is still the best option of them all

14:44 techrights-sec; ^ topic ?

14:44 techrights-sec; ack

14:49 schestowitz-TR; unfortunately, slef-hosting is very expensive for videos

14:49 schestowitz-TR; and scales upwards very poortly

14:49 schestowitz-TR; for several reasons

14:49 schestowitz-TR; so one aspect of interest is, keep specs low

14:49 schestowitz-TR; like small pages, static

14:49 schestowitz-TR; like gemini at home

14:49 schestowitz-TR; there are many other facets, like... if you made it big on platform x, can you drag that to platform y?

14:49 schestowitz-TR; a) what % would follow

14:49 schestowitz-TR; b) what absolute number follows and what provisioning is now needed for self-hosting

14:49 schestowitz-TR; a channel with a million views per day (~70mb) would be 70,000 GB per day

14:49 schestowitz-TR; and if you try to profit from it, then they call you greedy

14:49 schestowitz-TR; even if just to pay some host, which they can censor anyway

14:49 schestowitz-TR; the internet is still centralised upstream

14:49 schestowitz-TR; there are no "community"-owned underwater cables

14:49 schestowitz-TR; wireless meshes were our best chance, but those will never work intl'ly unless we can fire satellites into orbit

14:49 schestowitz-TR; with community rockets

14:49 schestowitz-TR; or get "community" submarines with GPS tracking to warn boats when they drop anchors

14:50 techrights-sec; ack

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15:07 schestowitz-TR; thought:

15:07 schestowitz-TR; how to censor my site, schestowitz.com

15:07 schestowitz-TR; there is trhe host

15:07 schestowitz-TR; there is dns

15:07 schestowitz-TR; the dns system would not target sites for "community guidelines"

15:07 schestowitz-TR; also I pay for the domain

15:07 schestowitz-TR; as for webhost, I pay them

15:07 schestowitz-TR; unlike youtube users

15:07 schestowitz-TR; so as long as it's not illegal, fine with them

15:07 schestowitz-TR; now compare to youtube 'free' hosting or lbry

15:07 schestowitz-TR; lbry afaik does not give you your own domain really

15:07 schestowitz-TR; so your links can break

15:07 schestowitz-TR; but I don't know the protocol well

15:07 schestowitz-TR; I just know many links to their video on a domain they do not own or control

15:07 schestowitz-TR; fosspatents and 9to5linux use blogspot and wordpress.com

15:07 schestowitz-TR; but at least they use their own domain

15:07 schestowitz-TR; not .wordpress.com or .blogspot.com

15:07 techrights-sec; ack

15:07 techrights-sec; If it were a static site, it could be easily mirrored, or with some work

15:07 techrights-sec; a static mirror could be made anyway

15:09 schestowitz-TR; I spoke to florian about this ages ago

15:09 schestowitz-TR; I think wordpress.com and gulag become DNS managers but not registrars

15:09 schestowitz-TR; so you could take control over the domain from them

15:09 schestowitz-TR; I think it's safe to predict osysee won't be online in 20 yeaars

15:09 schestowitz-TR; or 10... or 5

15:09 schestowitz-TR; or not with the videos on there

15:09 schestowitz-TR; many sites die when they need to move

15:09 schestowitz-TR; and "start over"

15:09 schestowitz-TR; and then the motivation is dead

15:09 schestowitz-TR; like taking a 5-level demotion

15:12 techrights-sec; Correct, odysee won't be around in 10 or 20 years, but that does not diminish

15:12 techrights-sec; its value *right now* as one of many ways to avoid YouTube

15:16 schestowitz-TR; the other day lunduke uploaded a dready new video to youtube

15:16 schestowitz-TR; it got a meager 700 views

15:16 schestowitz-TR; a lot less than before

15:16 schestowitz-TR; but at least 95% of that was real, not 95% fake

15:16 schestowitz-TR; I was surprised to see how few people watch LF videos

15:16 schestowitz-TR; despite the "claim" of 150k+ "subscribers"

15:16 schestowitz-TR; rianne knows today's youtube well and can see different ratio

15:16 schestowitz-TR; so maybe a real legit topic would be LF faking its reach

15:16 schestowitz-TR; as per the brochures

15:16 schestowitz-TR; to overcharge people

15:16 schestowitz-TR; like overhyping diploma mills

15:16 schestowitz-TR; in techrepublican

15:16 schestowitz-TR; you linked to one exampel today

15:16 schestowitz-TR; there were about 4 news examples the past 2 years

15:16 schestowitz-TR; somehing "linux" in title, but diploma webspam

15:16 schestowitz-TR; (marketing)

15:17 techrights-sec; Few that follow him keep any ties to youtube

15:20 schestowitz-TR; partly his own fault

15:20 schestowitz-TR; the irony

15:20 schestowitz-TR; doing to yoyutube forums

15:20 schestowitz-TR; telling people to quit youtube

15:20 schestowitz-TR; and then coming back to youtube

15:20 schestowitz-TR; awful

15:20 schestowitz-TR; same in twitter

15:20 schestowitz-TR; need your help:

15:20 schestowitz-TR; for twitter I used to have a tool to computer ratio of real vs fake "followers"

15:20 schestowitz-TR; I used to do this to @Epoorg

15:20 schestowitz-TR; I want to do the same to LF

15:20 schestowitz-TR; they are fakes and charlatans like crypto sheels microsoft

15:20 schestowitz-TR; so I am sure a lot are fake

15:20 schestowitz-TR; the ratio of subecribers/vies indicates many, many are fake

15:20 schestowitz-TR; bought and paid for

15:20 schestowitz-TR; so they can overcharge for "advocacy" and "influencers"

15:20 schestowitz-TR; via bacon, spamnil etc.

15:20 schestowitz-TR; they also appear to have paid someone to groom their wikipedia aricles/s

15:20 schestowitz-TR; so that they're just marketing bvrochures in "article" clothing

15:20 techrights-sec; ok

15:20 techrights-sec; s/crypto/cryptocurrency/

15:26 schestowitz-TR; looking for tools with youtube account check, like the ones for twitter

15:26 schestowitz-TR; brb

15:26 schestowitz-TR; (btw, friedman tries HARD to distance himself from his past, has money to spare)

15:26 schestowitz-TR; The Linux Foundation, "160K Subscribers"

15:26 schestowitz-TR; vide week old, 59 views

15:26 schestowitz-TR; another at 33

15:26 schestowitz-TR; so how many subscribers would be needed to get 1000 views on these? 50 million?

15:26 schestowitz-TR; rather, 5 million?

15:26 schestowitz-TR; 22 views

15:26 schestowitz-TR; 17 views (several)

15:26 schestowitz-TR; lol 10 views

15:26 schestowitz-TR; woth the effort uploading??

15:26 schestowitz-TR; 7 views!

15:26 schestowitz-TR; 160k subscribers, 7 views

15:26 schestowitz-TR; 4 views!

15:28 schestowitz; https://influencermarketinghub.com/fake-youtube-subscriber-checker/

↺ https://influencermarketinghub.com/fake-youtube-subscriber-checker/

15:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-influencermarketinghub.com | How to Spot Fake YouTube Subscribers [+ Free YouTube Fake Sub Checker Tool]

15:28 schestowitz; "Why You Shouldnt Buy Subscribers"

15:29 schestowitz; https://peertopeermarketing.co/fake-youtube-subscribers/

↺ https://peertopeermarketing.co/fake-youtube-subscribers/

15:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-peertopeermarketing.co | Fake YouTube Subscribers: 6 Ultimate Ways to Spot Them in 2022

15:29 schestowitz; "| Its not difficult to purchase illegitimate subscribers, and numerous online platforms are offering fake subscribers for a fee."

15:39 schestowitz-TR; The old tools that did use to ehck and audit

15:39 schestowitz-TR; don't work or don't exist

15:39 schestowitz-TR; which is a shame really

15:39 schestowitz-TR; I could run those on spamnil too and show a video of LF view counts

15:39 schestowitz-TR; including half a million fake twitter accounts, maybe 90% of them

15:39 schestowitz-TR; it's similar to FBInstagram

15:39 schestowitz-TR; they fake what they are and how ell they do

15:39 schestowitz-TR; which causes insecurity and anxiety among non-cheaters

15:39 techrights-sec; ack

15:39 techrights-sec; Which tools were they?

15:39 techrights-sec; I won't click on spamnil's channel and accidentally give him an extera view

15:39 techrights-sec; :/

15:39 techrights-sec; My random guess is that a slight majority of twitter accounts are inactive,

15:39 techrights-sec; fake, or spam.

15:41 schestowitz-TR; maybe twitter and gulag broke or blocked (API, IPs) to hide their fakeness

15:41 schestowitz-TR; their whole market value depeends on this fakeness

15:41 schestowitz-TR; and the idea you can profit from those "platforms"

15:42 techrights-sec; https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/10/10/parliament-officials-defend-seizure-julian-assange-books/

↺ https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/10/10/parliament-officials-defend-seizure-julian-assange-books/

15:42 techrights-sec; Fraud is almost certainly against the law, the question is whethe the

15:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.crikey.com.au | Julian Assange: Parliament defends seizure of family's books

15:42 techrights-sec; relevant governments will call them out on it or turn a blind eye in exchange

15:42 techrights-sec; for access and manipulation and censorship

15:43 schestowitz-TR; just showed rianne

15:43 schestowitz-TR; she calls it fake

15:43 schestowitz-TR; she knows many channels and the expected subs/view ratio

15:59 schestowitz-TR; fallback: show the numbes

15:59 schestowitz-TR; let the video watcher reach own conclusoon

15:59 schestowitz-TR; the earlier discussion on self-hosting can be mention ed in passing

15:59 schestowitz-TR; we cover some of those aspects before

15:59 schestowitz-TR; wow, lunduke channel:

15:59 techrights-sec; ack

15:59 techrights-sec; Lunduke droppe youtube and told everyone of his fans never to look for his

15:59 techrights-sec; videos there ever again. Whoever or whatever is viewing them is a question.

15:59 schestowitz-TR; 4 days ago, 424 views

15:59 techrights-sec; Certainly not many will be his regular followers.

15:59 schestowitz-TR; 1 months ago 820

15:59 schestowitz-TR; 2 months ago 666

15:59 schestowitz-TR; # of subs=63.1K

15:59 schestowitz-TR; one check that "works"

15:59 schestowitz-TR; says 20% fake for jzemlin

15:59 schestowitz-TR; but times out on linuxfoundation

15:59 schestowitz-TR; I cannot find one for youtube

15:59 schestowitz-TR; maybe due to lack of capacity or lack of business model

15:59 schestowitz-TR; f* this, the wwww is shit

15:59 schestowitz-TR; and you can see there are fakes, but no valid way to properly show this

15:59 schestowitz-TR; the platforms work to hide the fakeness

15:59 schestowitz-TR; i might do a video showing this emprically alone


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16:02 schestowitz-TR; I found 3 for twitter

16:02 schestowitz-TR; 0 for youtube

16:02 schestowitz-TR; 1 of the 3 worked, but only for 5,000 first followers

16:02 schestowitz-TR; for LF it doesn't tell you anything about the later 155k

16:02 schestowitz-TR; so pretty much pointless

16:02 schestowitz-TR; OTA

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20:01 techrights-sec; Regarding the Git update, Mastodon is a specific instance of the Fediverse, perhaps the link should say Fediverse

20:01 techrights-sec; instead?

20:49 schestowitz-TR; you are correct, I'll redo the whole thing in the next iteration

20:49 schestowitz-TR; anyway, mastodon isn't important, it's waning for years already

20:49 schestowitz-TR; I wish I took stock of ALL the techrepublic spam I saw before the weekend, my latest post shows only a subset

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