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00:05 TR News; (NEW): Maui Report 19 - MauiKit http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Maui_Report_19_MauiKit.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Maui_Report_19_MauiKit.gmi
00:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Maui Report 19 - MauiKit
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00:08 TR News; Phoronix became super corporate-friendly. You'll never find it expressing a POV that might alienate Big Sponsors.
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00:10 TR News; "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 755 for the week of September 25 October 1, 2022." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/10/03/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-755/
00:10 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 755
00:11 TR News; (NEW): Announcing git-cinnabar 0.6.0rc1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Announcing_git_cinnabar_0_6_0rc1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Announcing_git_cinnabar_0_6_0rc1.gmi
00:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Announcing git-cinnabar 0.6.0rc1
00:19 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi
00:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu Leftovers
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:34 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: Git 2.38.0 and cinnabar 0.6.0rc1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/git-2-38-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/git-2-38-0/
00:34 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: Git 2.38.0 and cinnabar 0.6.0rc1 | Techrights
00:34 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
00:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
00:34 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.3.gmi
00:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
00:37 TR News; IAM must be dying fast. Without authorisation it added my address to a list of people to send marketing spam to. How many others were put in the same list? It's not even legal! And they claim to provide legal advice!
00:50 TR News; Did Sam Varghese publish this because he wanted to or because it was imposed upon him as obligatory marketing fluff? https://itwire.com/telecoms-and-nbn/australia-post-joins-the-crowd-reselling-nbn-broadband-connections.html
00:50 TR Bot; - Australia Post joins the crowd reselling NBN broadband connections
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01:03 TR News; Stadia is Googles Product Strategy - Daniel Miessler <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Daniel Miessler" href="https://danielmiessler.com/blog/stadia-is-googles-product-strategy-now/">Read on</a>
01:03 TR Bot; Stadia is Google's Product Strategy - Daniel Miessler
01:05 TR News; "As I ranted about with Googles management interfaces, the interfaces seem completely oblivious to how people will actually use the products. So they fail." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/stadia-is-googles-product-strategy-now/
01:06 TR News; "Against this backdrop, Google had also planned to establish its own gaming studio for exclusive titles. Stadia was touted to be the next disruptive thing in the gaming industry." https://analyticsindiamag.com/stadia-joins-the-league-of-extraordinary-killed-by-google-projects/
01:06 TR Bot; Stadia Joins The League Of Extraordinary Killed by Google Projects
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01:08 TR News; Facebook profits from people who strive to kill off the planet https://michaelwest.com.au/vales-point-profits-and-squalid-pr-tactics-seven-pavel-st-baker/
01:08 TR Bot; Beyond the Vales: towering profits and squalid PR tactics at the twilight of the coal boom - Michael West
01:09 TR News; The clown computing delusion/trap/bait and switch: "almost 50% IT professionals are currently facing difficulties in controlling cloud costs, and almost a third of the respondents witnessed a 2550% hike in cloud prices." https://analyticsindiamag.com/cloud-prices-are-hurting-enterprises-bad-but-there-might-be-ways-out/
01:09 TR Bot; Cloud Prices Are Hurting Enterprises Bad, But There Might Be Ways Out
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01:18 schestowitz[TR]; EPO
01:18 schestowitz[TR]; " In this open letter we urge the President to refrain from imposing yet another productivity increase of +10% on staff. A historically low compliance rate of granted patents (73.3%) contrasts with the overall production plan for 2023: more production, fewer staff, purely top-down planning."
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:41 TR News; Trolled by Microsofts Lennart Poettering and Bought by Wintel | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/
01:41 TR Bot; Trolled by Microsofts Lennart Poettering and Bought by Wintel | Techrights
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01:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's me, testing a fix
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; kiwi irc is broken
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; and has been for 8-9 days
01:54 schestowitz[TR]; their custom made part is all 500
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; internal server error
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; after they did some work that broke the UI
01:55 schestowitz[TR]; workaround in place, testing now...
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01:56 schestowitz[TR]; ok, seems to be back, sort of
01:56 schestowitz[TR]; reduced functionality
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02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:22 TR News; This graph is... baffling. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202210
02:22 TR Bot; Worldwide Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
02:23 TR News; Windows 27.1% market share https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202210
02:23 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
02:25 TR News; IRC Widgets Working Again | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-widgets/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-widgets/
02:25 TR Bot; IRC Widgets Working Again | Techrights
02:37 TR News; Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/
02:37 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-031022.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-031022.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-031022.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
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02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-031022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-031022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-031022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-031022.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 03, 2022
02:41 TR News; prices of monitors have gone up in the UK. Same specs as 5 years ago, but prices higher (for same specs). Sterling weak. https://www.argos.co.uk/search/monitor/opt/page:7/sort:price/
02:41 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.argos.co.uk/search/monitor/opt/page:7/sort:price/ )
02:43 TR News; 2800 gemini capsules known gemini://botond.online/en/stats/ gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:46 TR News; https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-ceo-tests-positive-covid-2022-09-24/
02:46 TR Bot; CEO tests positive for COVID for a second time | Reuters
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03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 14137 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42868 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 30 days ago
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 66 GB TotalOut: 18 GB
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:08 TR News; Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/covid-19-variant-efficacy/
03:08 TR Bot; Blog Archive Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude)
03:09 TR News; Rise in Covid cases and hospital patients shows winter wave has begun, government official warns https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-autumn-wave-latest-cases-b2177905.html
03:09 TR Bot; Rise in Covid cases shows winter wave has begun, government officials warns | The Independent
03:09 TR News; "Coronavirus infections are on the rise in the UK, with cases increasing by 14 per cent week-on-week, according to official estimates." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-infections-uk-rise-flu-winter-b2184671.html
03:09 TR Bot; Covid infections on the rise in the UK | The Independent
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03:12 TR News; 10% more than the usual deaths this past month https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending16september2022
03:12 TR Bot; Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, provisional - Office for National Statistics
03:13 TR News; Is COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com https://www.salon.com/2022/10/03/is-19-hurting-our-hearts-a-new-study-finds-cardiac-muscle-damage-in-patients/
03:13 TR Bot; COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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03:33 TR News; ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/
03:33 TR Bot; Blog Archive ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines
03:48 TR News; "If I should owe my allegiance to any programming language, it would be Hare." https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/03/Does-Rust-belong-in-Linux.html | Source: Drew DeVault
03:48 TR News; "The Linux 6.0 kernel is out, formerly "5.20," and on its way to a distro near you." https://www.talospace.com/2022/10/linux-60.html | Source: Talospace
03:48 TR Bot; Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel?
03:48 TR Bot; Linux 6.0
03:48 TR News; "So, as is hopefully clear to everybody, the major version number change is more about me running out of fingers and toes" https://www.lkml.org/lkml/2022/10/2/255 |
03:48 TR Bot; LKML: Linus Torvalds: Linux 6.0
03:55 TR News; "The problem with free text logging is that is it very hard to keep it consistent and hard to process automatically..." https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/10/03/structured-logging-in-powerdns-recursor/ | Source: PowerDNS
03:55 TR Bot; Structured Logging in PowerDNS Recursor | PowerDNS Blog
03:55 TR News; "I recently acquired a 3M Whisper Writer 1000 communications terminal circa 1983, and restored it to working order." https://jcs.org/2022/10/02/whisper_writer | Source: JCS
03:55 TR Bot; BBSing at 300 Bits Per Second - joshua stein
03:55 TR News; "Its time to get me up on speed with modern CSS." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day6/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
03:55 TR Bot; Day 6: the :has() pseudo-class - Manuel Matuzovi
03:55 TR News; "Having swap is a reasonably important part of a well functioning system." https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html |
03:55 TR Bot; NO TITLE
03:55 TR News; "And here comes a new challenger. Developer ultimaweapon has released a brand new Playstation 4 emulator for the PC" https://game-news24.com/2022/10/03/obliteration-is-a-new-ps4-emulator-for-pc-windows-linux/ |
03:55 TR Bot; Obliteration is a new PS4 Emulator for PC (Windows/Linux) - Game News 24
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04:01 TR News; 25th Anniversary of FreeDOS https://lunduke.substack.com/p/25th-anniversary-of-freedos-with | Source: Bryan Lunduke
04:01 TR Bot; 25th Anniversary of FreeDOS -- with the creator of FreeDOS
04:01 TR News; "I upgraded to Fedora 37 several days ago (pre-release)." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/02/fedora-37-and-seamonkey-2-53-14/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
04:01 TR Bot; Fedora 37 and SeaMonkey 2.53.14. | BaronHK's Rants
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04:11 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, October 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:11 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:11 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:11 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:12 TR News; "This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. " https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2022/10/msg00000.html | Source: Debian
04:12 TR Bot; Results for non-free firmware
04:12 TR News; "The discussion period has been extended with 7 days by the Debian Project Leader." https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003 |
04:13 TR News; "The headline result is: Choice 5 / Proposal E won: Change SC for non-free firmware in installer, one installer." https://blog.einval.com/2022/10/02#firmware-vote-result | Source: Steve McIntyre
04:13 TR Bot; General Resolution: non-free firmware
04:13 TR Bot; Steve's blog
04:13 TR News; "The Debian project is making a major change to how it handles proprietary software in the next version." https://www.makeuseof.com/debian-votes-to-include-non-free-firmware/ | Source: Make Use Of
04:13 TR Bot; Debian Makes Major Change, Will Include Non-Free Firmware in Future Installers
04:13 TR News; "The vote also changes the Debian Social Contract to make it clear that including non-free firmware in this manner is allowed." https://lwn.net/Articles/910065/ | Source: LWN
04:13 TR Bot; firmware vote results [LWN.net]
04:13 TR News; "This was my ninety-ninth month that I did some work for the Debian LTS initiative, started by Raphael Hertzog at Freexian" https://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/10/my-debian-activities-in-september-2022/ |
04:13 TR Bot; Debian Activities in September 2022 blog.alteholz.eu
04:16 TR News; I hope that Phoronix does not further slide into the territories of corporate crackpots (lies), but it certainly seems that way...
04:17 TR News; "2. Production limitations because of the global components shortage." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/you-cant-buy-raspberry-pi-right-now | Source: Jeff Geerling
04:17 TR Bot; You can't buy a Raspberry Pi right now | Jeff Geerling
04:17 TR News; "Now sometime this year the machine running that database had to be replaced (should have done that earlier" https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/the_geeks_way_of_checking | Source: NetBSD
04:17 TR Bot; NetBSD Blog
04:18 TR News; "In this post I'm going to try and explain some of the factors that I think contributed to UML's downfall. To some extent this is a historical document, at least of my perspective. But, with the benefit of hindsight" https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/uml_my_part_in_its_downfall.html | Source: Lawrence Tratt
04:18 TR Bot; communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/uml_my_part_in_its_downfall.html )
04:18 TR News; "The following describes snippets for executing shell commands, in Java, Scala, and Kotlin, using standard functionality" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/10/03/execute-shell-commands-in-java-scala-kotlin/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu
04:18 TR Bot; Execute Shell Commands in Java/Scala/Kotlin - Alexandru Nedelcu
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:21 TR News; "I find this curious. I don't think it is bad or wrong or unbloggerly. Just a bit odd." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/blog-to-speech/ | Source: Terence Eden
04:21 TR Bot; Blog To Speech Terence Edens Blog
04:21 TR News; "Lately, I've been in a movement to limit my access to Mastodon, so I can focus on my family, or things like reading and studying." https://afhub.dev/brief-thoughts-on-mastodon/ | Source: Andre Franca
04:21 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/brief-thoughts-on-mastodon/ )
04:22 TR News; "Boarding an airplane is no fun. Usually, it's done by airline status or back-to-front." https://matt-rickard.com/the-steffen-boarding-method | Source: Matt Rickard
04:22 TR Bot; The Steffen Boarding Method
04:23 TR News; "It is relevant to ask, then, if we interpret a frequentist confidence interval of level $$ as a Bayesian credible interval of level $$, what prior does this imply?" https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/10/03/freq-bayes-ci.html | Source: Lee Yingtong Li
04:23 TR Bot; Bayesian biostatistics procedures matching frequentist confidence intervals
04:23 TR News; Sweden's Paabo wins medicine Nobel https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1973911.html | Source: RTL
04:23 TR Bot; RTL Today - A week of winner announcements: Sweden's Paabo wins medicine Nobel for sequencing Neanderthal DNA
04:25 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D718.jpg
04:25 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D373.jpg
04:26 TR News; "Much of the negative commentary I've read about Gemini recently seems to focus on how much convenient functionality it lacks relative to the Web--functionality such as forms, in-line links, and stateful connections." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202210/20221003-2022-week-38-39-thoughts-and-photos.gmi
04:27 TR News; "Critical thinking is the most powerful weapon in the arsenal of humankind. It is like a sharp sword that cuts through the follies of society, leaving nothing undefiled in its wake. Yet, when deployed improperly, it can also injure the thinker, bring ruin to his or her life, and ultimately accomplish nothing productive." gemini://jhpotter.srht.site/gemlog/chestertons-fence.gmi
04:29 TR News; "The personal implications of this are insightful. Often there are parts of my life that I start to dismantle without understanding the purpose of it. This leads me to despair at points, since I realize that there is really nothing founding the majority of what holds my own identity together." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/everything-is-rotten.gmi
04:29 TR News; "I believe everything is rotten. Our institutions are designed to serve those already in power, states cannot respond properly to any social issues, corporations are empowered to destroy the environment for profit, and so much more." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/everything-is-rotten.gmi
04:31 TR News; "As I heard from a wise indigenous anarchist, abolishing capitalism will probably increase our standard of living, but abolishing colonialism will likely lower it. This is because our lives have been built upon institutions that depend on genocide." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/everything-is-rotten.gmi
04:32 TR News; "In an ordinary conventional company (or more broadly many organizations), everyone present not merely matters to the company but also is paid by the company and actively work for it." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/UniversityNonEmployeesII | Source: uni Toronto
04:32 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/UniversityNonEmployeesII
04:32 TR News; "I made the mistake today of reading some social media comments (twitter, reddit, arstechnica, slashdot) on a topic I know a bit about and have read a lot of the background on." https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/10/02/this-article-is-too-long-for-you/ | Source: Positech Games
04:32 TR Bot; This article is too long for you Cliffski's Blog
04:33 TR News; iophk: trolls and CoCs https://lobste.rs/s/a5qtl3/use_mit_license_instead
04:33 TR Bot; Use an MIT license instead | Lobsters
04:33 TR News; iophk: there are no Nobel Prizes for professional wrestling, astrology, or economics never have been, never will be
04:34 TR News; itwire still blocked by clownflare https://itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html
04:34 TR Bot; - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen
04:35 TR News; This term has been taken out of context and meaning, much like "antivaxxer" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/technology/konnech-election-conspiracy-theories.html
04:35 TR Bot; How a Tiny Elections Company Became a Conspiracy Theory Target - The New York Times
04:35 TR News; Destiny burns the last bridge https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/destiny-burns-the-last-bridge:4
04:35 TR Bot; Destiny burns the last bridge
04:36 TR News; old: fsdg https://osboot.org/news/policy.html#problems-with-fsdg
04:36 TR Bot; osboot Binary blob minimalisation policy
04:36 TR News; twitter https://boingboing.net/2022/10/03/elon-whines-about-bot-attack-as-his-pro-russian-twitter-poll-trends-ukraines-way-and-countrys-ambassador-to-germany-tells-him-to-fuck-off.html
04:36 TR Bot; Elon complains of "bot attack" as his pro-Russian Twitter poll heads Ukraine's way | Boing Boing
04:38 TR News; old: Gulag http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Is-Google-losing-it-1375315.html
04:38 TR Bot; Is Google losing it? - The H Open: News and Features
04:38 TR News; old: Gulag is NOT a friend http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Whatever-happened-to-Google-1875864.html
04:38 TR Bot; Whatever happened to Google? - The H Open: News and Features
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04:39 TR News; RFC 9308: Applicability of the QUIC Transport Protocol https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9308.html Source: RFC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9308.html
04:39 TR Bot; RFC 9308: Applicability of the QUIC Transport Protocol
04:39 TR News; "Many times, their statement is an opinion. Let me explain why" https://opensource.com/article/22/10/obsolete-computer-linux-opportunity | Source: OpenSource.com
04:39 TR Bot; your old computer 'obsolete', or is it a Linux opportunity? | Opensource.com
04:39 TR News; "Containerization is all the rage right now. Docker, introduced back in 2014, has become the most popular tool for managing containers." https://linuxhandbook.com/docker-vs-podman/ | Source: Linux Handbook
04:39 TR Bot; Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference?
04:40 TR News; "Ready to try more game demos? Now is your chance once again as Steam Next Fest - October 2022 Edition is live." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-next-fest-october-2022-edition-is-live-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
04:40 TR Bot; Next Fest - October 2022 Edition is live now | GamingOnLinux
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04:41 DaemonFC; https://www.livemint.com/industry/media/bbc-announces-job-losses-at-world-service-11664451261931.html
04:41 TR Bot; BBC announces 382 job losses at World Service radio in cost-cutting push | Mint
04:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], 382 layoffs at the BillBC.
04:42 schestowitz[TR]; billbc
04:42 schestowitz[TR]; bill lost some stenographers
04:42 schestowitz[TR]; who name-call his critics
04:42 TR News; "Recently at the Akademy 2022 conference, KDE's David Edmundson gave a talk on the Steam Deck and the ongoing work in KDE to improve things." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/kde-steam-deck-akademy-2022/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
04:42 TR Bot; devs talk Steam Deck and their work for it at Akademy 2022, over a million shipped | GamingOnLinux
04:42 TR News; "Are you having issues with Red Dead Redemption 2 on either the Steam Deck or a Linux desktop with an AMD GPU? Well, upcoming driver updates should improve it." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/amd-driver-update-red-dead-redemption-2-better-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
04:42 TR Bot; driver update gets Red Dead Redemption 2 working better on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux
04:42 DaemonFC; It says it plans total layoffs of "up to 1,000" over a few years.
04:43 TR News; "The latest Steam Hardware & Software Survey is out now for September 2022, with it showing that clearly the Steam Deck with SteamOS is the most popular way now to game on Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steamos-and-steam-deck-on-top-for-linux-in-the-steam-hardware-survey/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
04:43 TR Bot; and Steam Deck on top for Linux in the Steam Hardware Survey | GamingOnLinux
04:43 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/truepill-lays-off-65-workforce-175-employees-in-4th-round/
04:43 TR Bot; lays off 65% Workforce 175 Employees in 4th Round - LayoffsTracker
04:43 TR News; "Valve has recently put up a fresh update for Proton Experimental, bringing more game compatibility and some fixes." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/proton-experimental-updates-fix-up-indiana-jones-final-fantasy-iv-3d-remake/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
04:43 TR Bot; Experimental updates fix up Indiana Jones, Final Fantasy IV (3D Remake) | GamingOnLinux
04:43 DaemonFC; TruePill (San Francisco, healthcare "tech") lays off 175 employees. 65% of total.
04:44 TR News; "In this tutorial, we are going to install WonderCMS on Ubuntu 22.04, and we will use Nginx as a web server." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-wondercms-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
04:44 TR Bot; to Install WonderCMS on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: truepill??
04:44 DaemonFC; Qihoo 360 (Chinese "antivirus" company) lays off 100.
04:44 DaemonFC; https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3194263/chinese-cybersecurity-firm-360-cuts-jobs-founder-calls
04:44 TR Bot; Chinese cybersecurity firm 360 cuts jobs as founder calls for consolidation to focus on digital security | South China Morning Post
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; lol
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; those products are malware suually
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's like "secure" boot
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; the "solution" can be miles worse than what it claims to tackle
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; also carbon footprint
04:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mozilla credits "security researchers at Qihoo 360" sometimes, Chrome team does too.
04:45 TR News; "How long will you support your device? Long-term support for IoT is a simple but difficult question for many device manufacturers." https://ubuntu.com//blog/iot-project-lifecycle-long-term-support-for-iot-devices | Source: Ubuntu
04:45 TR Bot; project lifecycle long-term support for IoT devices | Ubuntu
04:45 DaemonFC; So they do disclose vulnerabilities that they find, at least some of them.
04:45 DaemonFC; https://www.theinformation.com/articles/instacart-cuts-staff-curbs-hiring-in-run-up-to-ipo
04:45 TR Bot; Instacart Cuts Staff, Curbs Hiring in Run-up to IPO The Information
04:45 DaemonFC; 300 layoffs at Instacart.
04:46 TR News; "In this guide, we will cover how to use conditional statements in the bash script" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/use-conditional-statements-if-else-in-bash-script/ | Source: Linux Buzz
04:46 TR Bot; How to Use Conditional Statements (if-else) in Bash Script
04:46 DaemonFC; (San Francisco, "app" for grocery delivery)
04:46 DaemonFC; Things are looking bad lately in Matt GULAG's neck of the woods.
04:47 TR News; "WishFlix is a French pirate streaming site that chose GitHub as its hosting platform." Boycott Microsoft and GitHub for much better reasons than this... https://torrentfreak.com/hosting-a-pirate-streaming-site-on-github-isnt-the-best-idea-221003/ | Source: Torrent Freak
04:47 TR Bot; a Pirate Streaming Site on GitHub Isn't the Best Idea * TorrentFreak
04:47 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/docusign-lays-off-9-workforce-670-employees/
04:47 TR Bot; Lays off 9% Workforce 670 Employees - LayoffsTracker
04:47 DaemonFC; 670 layoffs at Docusign in San Francisco
04:47 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/28/23376948/cnn-podcasts-lay-offs-spotify-iheart-adl-netflix
04:47 TR Bot; CNN lays off audio staffers as it shifts podcast strategy - The Verge
04:47 DaemonFC; CNN fires MOAR people because nobody watches CNN.
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; not just CNN
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; the media in general is collapsing
04:48 DaemonFC; https://www.theinformation.com/articles/andreessen-backed-divvy-homes-lays-off-12-of-staff-as-rates-rise
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; alkso some of the very large channels and networks
04:48 TR Bot; Andreessen-Backed Divvy Homes Lays Off 12% of Staff as Rates Rise The Information
04:48 DaemonFC; Divvy Homes, 45 layoffs in San Francisco.
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; homless
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; *meless
04:49 TR News; "First, I'll explain the authors' conclusion, then I'll explain the evidence that supports it." https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/03/powell-memo/#means-motive-opportunity | Source: CoryDoctorow
04:49 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 03 Oct 2022 An antitrust murder whodunnit Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; watching the apocalypse , DaemonFC ?
04:49 DaemonFC; Wunderkind, a digital marketing firm in New York, fires 110 via internal memo.
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; "there are layoffs all the time" - devil's advocate
04:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Not like this.
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; "it might SOON become a RECSSION"
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Inflation in Turkey surges to 83% - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63120478 Source: BillBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63120478
04:50 TR Bot; Inflation in Turkey surges to 83% - BBC News
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; 83%
04:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Just what they've reported on in San Francisco in the past couple months is twice the total population of my home town losing their jobs in the past 60 days.
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; yes, they lost money
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; and now they pull the plug
04:50 DaemonFC; That's not counting anything else.
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; no proospect of turnaround
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; rianne saw 3 shut stores today
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; I said,
04:50 schestowitz[TR]; they buck the trned
04:51 DaemonFC; Yes, in some cases it's entire companies.
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; no more point openingh , if you operate at a loss
04:51 DaemonFC; And if it isn't now, the size of the cuts makes it likely that they will go under soon.
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; it's not like the Bank of England expects an imminent recovery
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; it says 24% inflation by April
04:51 DaemonFC; I'm taking the car to the shop again tomorrow.
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; the VCs don't want to go deeper into debt
04:51 DaemonFC; That damned squeaking is back. Probably another pulley in there.
04:51 schestowitz[TR]; cars are a yoke
04:52 DaemonFC; Oh they're horrible.
04:52 DaemonFC; I got the fuel leak and the brake problems sorted out.
04:52 schestowitz[TR]; did you already spend in repairsa more than you paid for the car?
04:52 DaemonFC; And now the belt system is squaking again.
04:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], No, but yuck.
04:52 DaemonFC; This is why people get rid of cars.
04:52 schestowitz[TR]; the weather outside is frightful
04:52 DaemonFC; They're sick of the repair bills and know it's not letting up soon.
04:52 schestowitz[TR]; let it squeak, let it squeak, let it squeak...
04:53 DaemonFC; I saw that the last owner nailed down a bunch of problems spending thousands of dollars.
04:53 DaemonFC; So, a lot of stuff in there actually already is new. :P
04:53 DaemonFC; Right before I bought it, they had to fix a stabilizer bar, both the O2 sensors, and a ton of other crap.
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> This is why people get rid of cars.
04:53 schestowitz[TR]; it's legal
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; unlike getting rid of kids
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; GOP&H^H SCOTUS
04:54 schestowitz[TR]; has made it hard to get rid of embryos too
04:54 DaemonFC; You can drive around with a broken stabilizer bar. I mean, it's not going to CAUSE you to crash, probably.
04:54 DaemonFC; It improves the handling.
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04:54 DaemonFC; It prevents "roll" when you go to steer sharply.
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; hehe, back come the horses
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; and the carriage
04:55 DaemonFC; So it's also called an anti-roll bar.
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; repair costs:
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; vet bills
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; gas prices: hay
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; hay hi!!
04:55 DaemonFC; Buy a new horse when it dies. Food.
04:55 DaemonFC; Gas prices: NAAAAAAY!
04:55 DaemonFC; :)
04:55 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: the old "car" becomes meat
04:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], While it's in there anyway tomorrow, I'll have them do an oil change.
04:56 DaemonFC; I'm a bit past due for that, actually.
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; if not for humans, then dogfoods or whatever
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; make a meme
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; comparative
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; compare "Smart" car
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; or EV
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; or 'self-driving'
04:56 DaemonFC; If you get behind on your oil changes by a lot and make a habit out of it, you'll crap up the engine.
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; to a horse
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; and compare one thing to anothe
04:56 DaemonFC; Or you'll "consume" a bunch and the engine will run dry if you're not topping it off.
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; you might fiund that, other than costs, the horse is better
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; barn vs garage
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04:57 schestowitz[TR]; privacy
04:57 DaemonFC; Constant attention.
04:57 DaemonFC; It's terrible.
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; expected life
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; companionship
04:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I always have a top off quart of oil in the trunk.
04:57 DaemonFC; This thing apparently uses about 0.75 quarts every 5,000 miles.
04:57 schestowitz[TR]; "fuck it, billy, I'm getting back to a barn with horses!"
04:58 DaemonFC; I don't like to let it get below half a quart low.
04:58 DaemonFC; The owner's manual advises topping it off if it is half a quart low.
04:59 DaemonFC; Every engine is different as to how much oil it consumes, and at what stage of its life it gets worse, and by how much. Even the same model with about the same service history.
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 61.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.83
04:59 DaemonFC; So you have to "get to know your car" and know about how often it needs topped off.
05:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The economy is real real shitty.
05:01 DaemonFC; When Credit Suisse goes under then the rest of the banking system will be harmed severely.
05:01 DaemonFC; They've been bracing for bank runs by telling people they can't have their own money or asking them questions about why they need just a few thousand in cash, or even several hundred.
05:01 DaemonFC; That's here in the US.
05:02 DaemonFC; https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/03/tier-mobility-owned-spin-lays-off-about-10-of-workforce-exits-two-markets/?guccounter=1
05:02 TR Bot; Mobility-owned Spin lays off about 10% of workforce, exits two markets TechCrunch
05:02 DaemonFC; 78 layoffs at "Spin" in San Francisco.
05:02 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So how about those job offers at Microsoft?
05:03 DaemonFC; Given any thought into the exit strategy when you're fired over Zoom and locked out of the company network?
05:04 *schestowitz[TR] back
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], The economy is real real shitty.
05:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Trying to cut our spending a bit. It's hard when there wasn't much in the way of extravagance before.
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; if you think about it, economy is an imaginary concept
05:04 DaemonFC; I always try to pay our bills as efficiently as I can.
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; so the issue here is man-made
05:04 schestowitz[TR]; like, too few people hoarding all the capital OR
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; too manmy people
05:05 DaemonFC; I have toothpaste and cat food mountains because of rebates.
05:05 DaemonFC; I mean, I pay up my car insurance 6 months ahead to avoid paying another $115 in installment fees.
05:05 DaemonFC; I have cash back credit cards for everything.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; you are quite the housewife
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; now quit all that "transphobic shite"
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; and go cancel people
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; by calling them ""transphobic"
05:09 TR News; "People who fail to understand the basics of supply and demand continue to insist suppliers want to kill potential customers" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/doj-senate-leader-continue-to-stoke-irrational-fear-that-drug-dealers-are-targeting-kids-with-multicolored-fentanyl/ | Source: Techdirt
05:09 TR Bot; Senate Leader Continue To Stoke Irrational Fear That Drug Dealers Are Targeting Kids With Multicolored Fentanyl | Techdirt
05:09 TR News; "5G [hype] Network" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/dishs-new-5g-network-remains-kind-of-a-mess/ | Source: Techdirt
05:09 TR Bot; New 5G Network Remains Kind Of A Mess | Techdirt
05:10 TR News; (NEW): Games: Stadia, Steam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Games_Stadia_Steam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Games_Stadia_Steam_and_More.gmi
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05:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Stadia, Steam, and More
05:12 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.gmi
05:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
05:12 TR News; Hopefully Lula will be back soon... he supports Free software and standards like ODF https://www.thenation.com/article/world/brazil-election-lula-bolsonaro/ | Source: The Nation
05:12 TR Bot; Lula Wins the First Round, but Bolsonarismo Is Here to Stay | The Nation
05:12 TR News; "big publishers attacks on libraries" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/publishers-lose-their-shit-after-authors-push-back-on-their-attack-on-libraries/ | Source: Techdirt
05:12 TR Bot; Lose Their Shit After Authors Push Back On Their Attack On Libraries | Techdirt
05:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You mean like mjg59_ who says he was openly transphobic, but that was like 240 months ago and therefore doesn't matter anymore, except that only applies to him because nobody else can rehabilitated and is of no use to society the moment they ever say anything transphobic?
05:13 DaemonFC; *can be
05:13 DaemonFC; It's like my dad, you know.
05:13 DaemonFC; He sets rules, but they only apply to everyone else in the house.
05:13 schestowitz[TR]; he is in damage control mode atm
05:14 DaemonFC; Like, he set a rule that he didn't want his expensive new carpeting ruined so everyone was to take their shoes off.
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: so your dad had a coc
05:14 DaemonFC; Then he walked around on it with his shoes on.
05:14 DaemonFC; And said everyone ELSE had to take theirs off.
05:14 mjg59_; When did I say nobody else can be rehabilitated?
05:14 DaemonFC; On your Twitter.
05:14 mjg59_; Where?
05:14 schestowitz[TR]; what are you , a rcist or something?
05:15 TR News; SCOTUS https://www.thenation.com/article/society/supreme-court-voting-rights-act/ | Source: The Nation
05:15 TR Bot; This Supreme Court Will Decide the Fate of the Voting Rights Act | The Nation
05:15 DaemonFC; You said that transphobes don't have to be welcomed back into communities.
05:15 TR News; R&D = code word for PATENTS and MONOPOLIES https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/new-study-shows-that-high-rd-costs-dont-explain-high-drug-prices/ | Source: Techdirt
05:15 TR Bot; Study Shows That High R&D Costs Dont Explain High Drug Prices | Techdirt
05:16 mjg59_; No, I said that communities don't need to engage with transphobes
05:16 mjg59_; I thought it was obviously implicit that if someone's got better then that's not a blocker
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; back on topic now
05:16 DaemonFC; " (And it is absolutely true that I said some transphobic shit 20 years ago, I was wrong to and I'm sorry and I try to do better now)
05:16 DaemonFC; "
05:16 mjg59_; But that may not have been clear
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; so many layoffs in SF area
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; it was never profitable anyway
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; many sudi investors there
05:16 schestowitz[TR]; *saudi
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; and they still profit from oil
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; but the sales prospects are slim
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; some companies sell to another
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; when they lay offf it means they are weorthless
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; and nobody will buy the staff
05:17 schestowitz[TR]; acquihiring
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; that means fewer tech jobs remain available
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; and more people will compete for each position
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; that NECESSARILY means lower wages
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; when there is more supply then demand for some skill
05:18 schestowitz[TR]; someone will offer to do the same job for less
05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; communities don't need to engage with transphobes <- with your love for ambiguity its a wonder you (obviously) have skills with computers
05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; dont need != wouldnt benefit from
05:19 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: Oh hey I wanted to respond to you earlier
05:19 mjg59_; I did read that article you linked to
05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; awesome
05:19 mjg59_; But I'm interested in some of what you were saying around that
05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; well i think its a good indictment of the womens movement
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; which of course, is an absolutely necessary movement
05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i think free software is an absolutely necessary movement too. if its dead, it will need to return eventually.
05:20 TR News; "In the cases the court agreed to hear, relatives of people killed in terrorist attacks in France and Turkey had sued Gulag," https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/high-court-hear-social-media-terrorism-lawsuits-90917012 | Source: ABC
↺ https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/high-court-hear-social-media-terrorism-lawsuits-90917012
05:20 TR Bot; High court will hear social media terrorism lawsuits - ABC News
05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; its taken 100 years but i think anticapitalism is back, to some degree
05:20 TR News; "Iranian lawmaker labeled women who have taken off mandatory headscarves to protest against the death of Mahsa Amini" https://www.dhakatribune.com/middle-east/2022/09/28/irans-nationwide-protests-pile-pressure-on-state | Source: Dhaka Tribune
05:20 TR Bot; Iran: Lawmaker labels female protesters as prostitutes
05:21 highest_cubist_thrills; free hardware may advance in its stead but its not a substitute for free software (both are needeD)
05:21 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
05:21 schestowitz[TR]; very true
05:21 schestowitz[TR]; we had this discussion the other day in another channel
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; how outsourcing chipmaking to china poses a problem
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; for security
05:22 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: I can't find exactly what you said right now and I don't want to mis-state your position, but it was something along the lines of cancellation largely being based on poorly defined accusations rather than specific cases
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; yet we're mostly focusing on other aspects
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; and now the media harps about "supply chain"
05:22 highest_cubist_thrills; cancellation largely being based on poorly defined accusations rather than specific cases <- not in every instance
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; in relation to Free sofwtare
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; not the manufacturers of the hardware that runs the sw
05:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think youre mistating, just that
05:22 schestowitz[TR]; in many communities the troll is already canceleld
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; well, for example, im not 100% against war
05:23 schestowitz[TR]; because people saw clearly what he does
05:23 schestowitz[TR]; Torvalds, rms, tso
05:23 schestowitz[TR]; the troll who cried "wolf"
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; im not against all forms and all justifications of war
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; in some instances, the exception rather than the rule
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i think some forms of war (not most-- most are imperialist or avoidable) are necessary
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; nearly all of it is bullshit
05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; even wwii was bullshit but there WERE some good parts
05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; hitlers dead
05:24 TR News; "I get that stock photos are a thing and that political campaigns or teams may be pressed for time" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/03/lazy-ass-house-gop-uses-foreign-stock-photos-in-video-about-america/ | Source: Techdirt
05:24 TR Bot; House GOP Uses Foreign Stock Photos In Video About America | Techdirt
05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; the american revolution was bullshit (really) but some of the outcomes WERE good
05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; im in favour of independence. thats not what the war for independence was actually about :)
05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and the point of saying this is
05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i feel similarly about the "friendly fire" within the movement
05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; trashing is a bad habit, and like natalie wynn says the guillotine can be a great equaliser
05:25 TR News; "businesses forced to close for lack of staff" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/sarah-jaffe-aaron-benanav-automation-work/ | Source: The Nation
05:25 TR Bot; Has Labor Become More or Less Powerful Over the Last Two Decades? | The Nation
05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; which quickly turns into a gruesome spectactle for entertainment (or opportunism)
05:26 highest_cubist_thrills; and all of this describes pretty well how i feel about all of this... stuff that has happened
05:26 mjg59_; So, eg, we've previously talked about my objections to rms being rooted in specific behaviour that I witnessed in person
05:26 highest_cubist_thrills; well i wont make you repeat everything but hints and refreshers will help, however brief they are
05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont need the file contents but i need a filename at least, to look it up mentally
05:27 mjg59_; Overrulling staff when they tried to enforce the Libreplanet CoC after Eben threatened a board member
05:27 mjg59_; Refusal to correctly gender people
05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, i think wynn describes the process there pretty we-- wait wait
05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; this is, honestly, new
05:28 highest_cubist_thrills; who refused? moglen?
05:28 mjg59_; rms
05:28 highest_cubist_thrills; ive never heard of him refusing to correctly gender
05:28 highest_cubist_thrills; ive never heard of rms refusing to correctly gender
05:28 mjg59_; He has an entire webpage on it!
05:28 highest_cubist_thrills; no, i read that page.
05:28 highest_cubist_thrills; and i agree with leah on it
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; there no refusal to do anything on that page.
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont just mean this to the letter
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; the spirit of that page clearly has nothing to do with refusal either
05:29 mjg59_; He will literally use his own choice of pronouns rather than the ones he's requested to use
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; let me make something clear-- i was (And remain)
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; a HUGE FAN of singular they
05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; for the sheer convenience to writing
05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; i also like dynamic typing. and i think thats relevant.
05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; loosely ofc
05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; i was a big fan of singular they before it was a (mainstream, well known among cis) trans thing
05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; because it makes life so much easier
05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; rms is going full-on ada with this
05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; like an ambiguous pronoun will somehow lead to a major vulnerability in language
05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; im putting words in his mouth, but this is how i see it.
05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; but this is just him being anal-retentive about language
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; you are committing at least as much of a similar error when you see a refusal anywhere in that text
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; he is not demanding anything, or refusing anything
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; that is not the point or intent of his text
05:32 mjg59_; Oh, I'm not referring to the text
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; he is SUGGESTING that people CONSIDER using
05:32 mjg59_; If you ask him to refer to someone with singular they, he will refuse to
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; Oh, I'm not referring to the text <- well now im legit confused
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; If you ask him to refer to someone with singular they, he will refuse to <- ah.
05:33 highest_cubist_thrills; that IS a problem. granted im not sure your solution is the best one.
05:33 highest_cubist_thrills; has he never changed his position since then?
05:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, has anyone helped him out with this?
05:33 mjg59_; Not to the best of my knowledge
05:33 mjg59_; I spent a while talking to him about it back in 2017
05:33 highest_cubist_thrills; at least i can see how this is a problem
05:34 highest_cubist_thrills; id want more about this from other sources, you understand
05:34 TR News; Freedom of Information: "Mediazona reports that Russias Interior Ministry has placed the former Channel One editor Marina Ovsyannikova on the federal wanted list." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/03/former-channel-one-editor-marina-ovsyannikova-placed-on-russia-s-federal-wanted-list | Source: Meduza
05:34 TR Bot; NO TITLE
05:35 highest_cubist_thrills; but lets for a moment assume that what youre saying is factual for the sake of argument
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; can we talk about freesw
05:35 highest_cubist_thrills; that is a real shame
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; anr rms in relation to fw?
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; not the anti-rms trolling?
05:35 highest_cubist_thrills; can we talk about freesw <- oh, now stallmans cancellation isnt relevant enough?
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; no
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; you help perpetuate thje lies
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; by engaging the troll
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; with total
05:35 schestowitz[TR]; total bs
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; from a 'fomer' transphobe
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; you give him a platform
05:36 highest_cubist_thrills; go fuck yourself, roy. ive done more to stand against the lies than you have.
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; not the point
05:36 highest_cubist_thrills; youve PROTECTED the frauds and trolls and downplayed everything.
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; no, I didn't
05:36 highest_cubist_thrills; not the point <=- you being full of shit is TOTALLY the point.
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; not even close
05:36 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, you did.
05:36 highest_cubist_thrills; well, i dont agree with you.
05:36 schestowitz[TR]; but the irc logs get filled with his tripe now
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; there was a reason he waas muted last year
05:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i think youre a sheer opportunist and it suits you to look like you care about any of these issues
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; he steers the channel off topic
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; and then defames people
05:37 highest_cubist_thrills; but i think its more of a hobby than a CAUSE if you will
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; and then people write to complain to me that he defames them
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; in irc
05:37 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah. well, you pretend to care about this stuff
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; i do
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; and we need to focus on tech
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; not the BS
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; he wants BS
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; not tech
05:37 schestowitz[TR]; because he's not a a tech
05:37 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg: do you mind discussing this in #techpol? its worth it if it shuts him up.
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; he's a professional troll
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; he's a professional troll <- noted
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
05:38 TR Bot; Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
05:38 mjg59_; I can assure you that I am not paid to talk to you
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; better to ignore him
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; and focus on facts
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; oh now its about facts
05:38 schestowitz[TR]; it always was
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; before it was about on-topic facts
05:39 schestowitz[TR]; trolls tire you down
05:39 highest_cubist_thrills; /me joins #techpol
05:39 schestowitz[TR]; they don't engage with facts
05:39 schestowitz[TR]; they take up space
05:39 highest_cubist_thrills; trolls tire you dow <- yes, you really do sometimes.
05:39 TR News; Grassroots https://truthout.org/articles/grassroots-groups-in-mississippi-are-pushing-for-representation-in-local-office/ | Source: TruthOut
05:39 TR Bot; Grassroots Groups in Mississippi Are Pushing for Representation in Local Office
05:39 highest_cubist_thrills; /me invites mjg to techpol
05:40 TR News; Subverting PS4 And PS5 Through The PS2 Emulator https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/subverting-ps4-and-ps5-through-the-ps2-emulator/ | Source: Hackaday
05:40 TR Bot; PS4 And PS5 Through The PS2 Emulator | Hackaday
05:40 TR News; "Many devices use infrared (IR) as a signalling medium like, for example, RGB LED strip controllers modules and some TV controllers" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/your-own-home-ir-cloner/ | Source: Hackaday
05:40 TR Bot; Own Home IR Cloner | Hackaday
05:41 TR News; ""Im not an expert on internal Google politics, but it seems to meand Ive heard elsewherethat they pretty much let engineers run everything. https://danielmiessler.com/blog/stadia-is-googles-product-strategy-now/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
05:41 TR Bot; Stadia is Google's Product Strategy - Daniel Miessler
05:41 highest_cubist_thrills; if we talk about it there, im not trying to get you to stop discussing it somewhere else. im only trying to reduce the distracting annoyance that results of trying to discuss it here
05:41 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: Oh, I'm there already
05:41 highest_cubist_thrills; cool
05:41 TR News; Proprietary https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/innovative-public-services/news/interview-ai-procurement-clauses | Source: Joinup
05:41 TR Bot; Interview AI Procurement Clauses | Joinup
05:42 TR News; "I pretty much stumbled over sematicon and their N200 Series on my quest for Hardware Security Modules (HSM) of almost any shape and size" https://jpmens.net/2022/10/02/the-se-sam-n200-hsm-with-pkcs-11/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens
05:42 TR Bot; Jan-Piet Mens :: DNSSEC signing with the se.SAM N200 HSM with PKCS#11
05:43 TR News; "For months, scientists have been expressing concern about the increase in cardiovascular diseases among COVID-19 patients" https://www.salon.com/2022/10/03/is-19-hurting-our-hearts-a-new-study-finds-cardiac-muscle-damage-in-patients/ | Source: Salon
05:43 TR Bot; COVID-19 hurting your heart? A new study finds cardiac muscle damage in COVID patients | Salon.com
05:44 TR News; "From 1967 to 2007, the Federal Bureau of Investigation methodically collected information about Aretha Franklin using false phone calls" https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/aretha-franklin-fbi-file-surveillance-1234602217/ | Source: Rolling Stone
05:44 TR Bot; Aretha Franklin Was Tracked by the FBI for 40 Years Rolling Stone
05:44 TR News; "Now the Greek authorities are researching new methods to detect border crossings from the air." https://digit.site36.net/2022/10/03/artificial-intelligence-for-border-surveillance-greece-tests-autonomous-drone-swarms/ | Source: Site36
05:44 TR Bot; Artificial intelligence for border surveillance: Greece tests autonomous drone swarms Security Architectures in the EU
05:44 TR News; "Palantir Technologies had a secret plan to deepen its relationship with the UKs National Health Service" https://www.inkl.com/news/palantir-had-secret-plan-to-crack-uk-health-system-buying-our-way-in/lvadqXCvnxv | Source: Inkl
05:44 TR Bot; Peter Thiels Palantir Had Secret Plan to Crack UKs
05:45 TR News; "senior election security lead at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), said because of those threats" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3669329-us-faces-election-worker-shortage-ahead-of-midterms-due-to-rise-in-threats/ | Source: The Hill
05:45 TR Bot; US faces election worker shortage ahead of midterms due to rise in threats | The Hill
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09:35 TR News; "Will hundred thousand dead in Mariupol vote?" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/03/volodymyr-zelensky-hits-back-elon-musk-tweets-peace-plan-ukraine/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
09:35 TR Bot; Volodymyr Zelensky hits back at Elon Musk after he tweets his peace plan for Ukraine
09:35 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Enable, Disable Keyboard, Mouse and Touch Devices via Terminal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Enable_Disable_Keyboard_Mouse_and_Touch_Devices_via_Term.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Enable_Disable_Keyboard_Mouse_and_Touch_Devices_via_Term.gmi
09:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Enable, Disable Keyboard, Mouse and Touch Devices via Terminal
09:36 TR News; Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/
09:36 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights
09:41 TR News; "Each Channel dinghy generally carries more than 40 migrants and is said by police to have netted the smugglers around 70,000" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/22/police-catch-people-smuggling-gang-behind-50-channel-crossings/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
09:41 TR Bot; Police catch people-smuggling gang behind 50 Channel crossings
09:42 TR News; "But we dont follow that rule about terrorism-in-process, at least not in the form of the former Presidents own tweets." https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/10/01/stop-magnifying-the-former-presidents-incitement/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
09:42 TR Bot; Stop Magnifying the Former President's Incitement - emptywheel
09:46 TR News; "The bill states that private companies with 50249 employees must introduce an internal channel that enables the anonymous reporting of misconduct by 17 December 2023." https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22276-law-on-whistleblower-protection-finally-moving-forward-in-finland.html | Source: Helsinki Times
09:46 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22276-law-on-whistleblower-protection-finally-moving-forward-in-finland.html )
09:46 TR News; "Kardashian failed to disclose that she was paid $250,000 to publish a post on her Instagram account about EMAX tokens" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/kim-kardashian-settle-sec-charges-illegally-hyped-crypto-1235391186/ | Source: Variety
09:46 TR Bot; Kardashian Paying $1.26 Million to Settle SEC Crypto-Hype Charges - Variety
09:47 TR News; "The Securities and Exchange Commission said Monday Kardashian has agreed to pay a fine of $1 million" https://text.npr.org/1126526883 | Source: NPR
09:47 TR Bot; SEC charges Kim Kardashian for unlawfully touting crypto on her Instagram account
09:47 TR News; "Why is a gasoline moped allowed to do 30, but an electric one only 20? Oil industry bribes to legislators" https://soylentnews.org/~mcgrew/journal/12434 | Source: Soylent News
09:47 TR Bot; Journal of mcgrew (701)
09:48 TR News; "Organizations have a strong interest in making sure that the devices people use to do their work (and access to organization's resources) are secure." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/UniversityBYODAndSecurity | Source: uni Toronto
09:48 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/UniversityBYODAndSecurity
09:48 TR News; "We are discontinuing Google Translate in mainland China due to low usage" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3672497-google-shuts-down-translation-feature-in-china/ | Source: The Hill
09:48 TR Bot; Google shuts down translation feature in China | The Hill
09:49 TR News; "It marks the end of one of Google's last remaining products in the world's second-largest economy." https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/03/google-shuts-down-translate-service-in-china-.html | Source: CNBC
09:49 TR Bot; Google shuts down Translate service in China
09:51 TR News; "We Will Be on the Streets" https://truthout.org/articles/we-will-be-on-the-streets-lula-vows-to-keep-fighting-in-runoff-with-bolsonaro/ | Source: TruthOut
09:51 TR Bot; "We Will Be on the Streets": Lula Vows to Keep Fighting in Runoff With Bolsonaro
09:52 TR News; National Archives https://truthout.org/articles/national-archives-says-its-still-missing-docs-trump-removed-from-white-house/ | Source: TruthOut
09:52 TR Bot; National Archives Says It's Still Missing Docs Trump Removed From White House
09:52 TR News; Liz TrumpSS https://truthout.org/articles/liz-truss-is-roiling-the-british-economy-in-her-zeal-to-serve-the-1-percent/ | Source: TruthOut
09:52 TR Bot; Liz Truss Is Roiling the British Economy in Her Zeal to Serve the 1 Percent
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09:53 TR News; unionisation https://truthout.org/articles/ilhan-omar-and-ro-khannas-offices-overwhelmingly-vote-to-unionize/ | Source: TruthOut
09:53 TR Bot; Ilhan Omar and Ro Khannas Offices Overwhelmingly Vote to Unionize
09:54 TR News; Well, how about Tor bagging bribes from Microsoft proxy DDG?? To recommend Microsoft espionage... https://blog.torproject.org/role-tor-project-board-conflicts-interest/ | Source: Tor
09:54 TR Bot; The Role of the Tor Project Board and Conflicts of Interest | The Tor Project
09:57 TR News; Battery Life https://xkcd.com/2680/
09:57 TR Bot; Battery Life
09:58 techuser; Tor Project grew too big and is now suspicious
09:59 TR News; Covid infections on the rise in the UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/covid-19-variant-efficacy/
09:59 TR Bot; Blog Archive Efficacy Declining Due to Bad COVID-19 Policy (a Do-Nothing Attitude)
10:00 TR News; to better assess efficacy, based on data rather than what pharmaceutical companies advertise in the media https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/
10:00 TR Bot; Blog Archive ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: for nearly a decade already
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; but size is not the problem
10:00 schestowitz[TR]; but their actions
10:00 techuser; will techrights one day grow too big and self-destruct?
10:01 TR News; ast weeks public appearance by Torvalds seemed reluctant and a tad embarrassing (the media pointed out the awkwardness, too); whose idea was that, the Linux Foundations? http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/bought-by-wintel/
10:01 TR Bot; Trolled by Microsofts Lennart Poettering and Bought by Wintel | Techrights
10:01 techuser; though highest_cubist_thrills says it already does, so idk
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10:01 techuser; hi matteobin
10:01 matteobin; Hello!
10:01 TR News; After turbulence and technical issues at KiwiIRC weve managed to get a semi-working solution or some workaround http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-widgets/
10:01 TR Bot; IRC Widgets Working Again | Techrights
10:02 techuser; you didn't connect to other IRC networks
10:02 TR News; As we noted yesterday, Windows is down sharply this month (27.1% market share worldwide) and the decreases are very significant in Africa, where Android (Linux-based) is spreading fast. Heres a chart for Africa, showing Microsofts decrease to about 16%. http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/microsoft-windows-african-market/
10:02 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Sinks to Just 16% of the African Market | Techrights
10:10 TR News; "My long-term anxiety sees every month as less than guaranteed. Sometimes I can't even take a week for granted. If I had the ball, all I would have to do is ask, and know whether or not my anxiety is well-founded...but doing so puts a countdown on the rest of my life, regardless of whether the answer is in 6 weeks or 6 decades." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1142
10:11 TR News; "Under the delusions of market capitalism, fossil fuel has been a remarkable source of energy to cheaply enable far-reaching transportation. Its all illusory because weve been paying for that wealth by wrecking our own planet." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-rotten
10:11 TR News; "Abolishing that will decrease our standard of living very much. And weve got to, or well die. Thats what gasoline populists dont understand." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/re-rotten
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10:13 TR News; "SpaceBeans is currently using the latest OSS version of Akka (the service relies on Akka Streams), and I don't plan to use the non-OSS version, so this is the end of the road for SpaceBeans as it is today." gemini://capsule.usebox.net/gemlog/20221004-akka-and-the-future-of-spacebeans.gmi
10:15 TR News; More strikes https://truthout.org/articles/workers-have-held-more-strikes-so-far-in-2022-than-in-all-of-2021-data-finds/ | Source: TruthOut
10:15 TR Bot; Workers Have Held More Strikes So Far in 2022 Than in All of 2021, Data Finds
10:16 TR News; "In the first article, Ive given you an overview of Lithium-Ion batteries and cells as building blocks for our projects" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/lithium-ion-batteries-are-easy-to-find/ | Source: Hackaday
10:16 TR Bot; Batteries Are Easy To Find | Hackaday
10:19 TR News; "Humans arent always great at respecting each others privacy" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/big-brother-or-dumb-brother-bus-drivers-in-beijing-are-forced-to-wear-emotional-monitors/ | Source: Hackaday
10:19 TR Bot; Brother Or Dumb Brother? Bus Drivers In Beijing Are Forced To Wear Emotional Monitors | Hackaday
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10:20 TR News; "This audit exposes the danger that some climate finance claims could simply be greenwashing." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/oxfam-warns-world-bank-could-be-significantly-overstating-climate-spending | Source: Common Dreams
10:20 TR Bot; Oxfam Warns World Bank 'Could Be Significantly Overstating' Climate Spending
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10:31 TR News; "They need to reverse their whole economic, discredited trickle-down strategy" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/uks-truss-drops-tax-break-wealthy-austerity-threat-remains-amid-tory-class-war | Source: Common Dreams
10:31 TR Bot; UK's Truss Drops Tax Break for Wealthy, But Austerity Threat Remains Amid 'Tory Class War'
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10:40 TR News; "We have the tools to calm inflation and support all vulnerable groups. This is a matter of policy choices and political will." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/03/step-back-edge-recession-un-urges-central-banks-stop-rate-hikes | Source: Common Dreams
10:40 TR Bot; To 'Step Back From the Edge of Recession,' UN Urges Central Banks to Stop Rate Hikes
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10:58 TR News; Links 04/10/2022: Tor Project Board and Conflicts of Interest, More Politics | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/tor-onflicts-of-interest/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/04/tor-onflicts-of-interest/
10:58 TR Bot; Links 04/10/2022: Tor Project Board and Conflicts of Interest, More Politics | Techrights
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11:00 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding and Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.gmi
11:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding and Programming Leftovers
11:00 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding and Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Open_Hardware_Modding_and_Programming_Leftovers.gmi
11:00 TR News; "Fascism is a rich-gets-richer project that was created to divert energy from the class vs class struggle and instead getting the classes to cooperate vs some nebulous other." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fascism
11:00 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_leftovers.gmi
11:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
11:09 TR News; (NEW): Alibaba T-Head TH1520 RISC-V processor to power the ROMA laptop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Alibaba_T_Head_TH1520_RISC_V_processor_to_power_the_ROMA_laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Alibaba_T_Head_TH1520_RISC_V_processor_to_power_the_ROMA_laptop.gmi
11:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Alibaba T-Head TH1520 RISC-V processor to power the ROMA laptop
11:12 TR News; Linux Foundation lied last week about being global, showing misleading charts. Over 90% of the money is spent in the US.
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11:16 TR News; (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Kotlin Static Site Generators http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Kotlin_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Kotlin_Static_Site_Generators.gmi
11:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Kotlin Static Site Generators
11:16 TR News; Jim Zemlin keeps saying "intellectual property"
11:19 TR News; Linux Foundation's LFX seems to be proprietary software. Needs to be verified though.
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:21 TR News; Recently, Jim Zemlin did not even give talks. His keynotes were just him reading a script. Ridiculous.
11:23 TR News; Zemlin now spread the "supply chain" FUD of Microsoft proxies. To make "Open Source", not NSA and its tentacles (like Microsoft) seem like the real disk, inc. back doors.
11:27 TR News; Zemlin also bags about Microsoft working with Linux Foundation on "trust" (while Microsoft works for the NSA, a back doors booster)
11:28 TR News; Zemlin became like a Microsoft salesperson (like his wife, who is technically a fraud). He even uses the same talking points, e.g. "log4j" (even a year after this was patched)
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11:30 TR News; Zemlin also perpetuates the lie that in proprietary software there are good security practices but the same is untrue in "Open Source"; he's in effect repeating Microsoft lies
11:33 TR News; Zemlin says "Open Source movement", but it's not a movement but a corporate push to attack the movement (Free software) or what he dubs "collective innovation"
11:33 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.gmi
11:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
11:36 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/irc-log-031022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/04/irc-log-031022/
11:36 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 03, 2022 | Techrights
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11:39 TR News; LF events became like a joke. Online, the whole thing is just people reading scripts, even the presenter, coordinator. It's like people who are able to speak, just read.
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12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:35 TR News; Linux Foundation Events Now Run by Linuxs Biggest Foe | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/
12:35 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Events Now Run by Linuxs Biggest Foe | Techrights
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13:06 TR News; Abandoned-IRC is anything but abandoned. Over 500 users online, on average. https://netsplit.de/networks/Abandoned-IRC/
13:06 TR Bot; NO TITLE
13:07 TR News; WorldIRC has survived for about 25 years already. Well done. https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=WorldIRC
13:07 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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13:11 TR News; Linux Foundation is trying to change its pitch in response to posts that expose its hypocrisy; for instance, they now openly admit Linux is just a little project in the corner. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
13:11 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
13:13 TR News; "Total Coronavirus Cases in New Zealand" in this page shows what happens when you 'open up' BEFORE you even have a potent solution to COVID-19. 3k deaths in a small island. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/
13:13 TR Bot; New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
13:17 TR News; NZ is at 90% COVID-19 vaccine uptake for ages 12+. https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-vaccine-data and when opening up COVID-19 spreads to millions, killing thousands. Hardly an efficacy success story. Try the same with polio. We need more vaccine development (and clinical trials), not more patents and higher prices.
13:17 TR Bot; COVID-19: Vaccine data | Ministry of Health NZ
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; NZ, once a role model on COVID-19, now has a higher mortality rates overall than another island, Iceland. Those Islands are valuable as reference points to study COVID-19 mitigation approaches in insulation/isolation.
13:23 TR News; And now in NZ they'll have millions with "LONG COVID(-19)" and lifelong conditions associated with infection, based on extensive research published just a month ago. They have a health service, so the high cost will be long-term and collective.
13:39 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
13:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
13:40 TR News; "This is intended to be more of a small blog rather than anything I actually write super long on. Short diary for my day. Tried to use gemlog blue or whatever, but this seems nicer. Dunno." gemini://vincent.smol.pub/10032022
13:41 TR News; Compaq Presario 5150 gemini://spoony.smol.pub/compaq-presario-5150
13:41 TR News; An Antique Epoch of Human History gemini://thurk.org/blog/576.gmi
13:43 TR News; 2150 gemini capsules detected as online by Lupa (I know many more than Lupa cannot see, maybe real number is 3,000-4,000) gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
13:44 TR News; List of capsules (as per Lupa) gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/lupa-capsules.txt
13:46 TR News; Pfizer CEO infected with COVID-19. Again. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3ceurG7P89c
13:46 TR Bot; Vaccination status - Invidious
13:49 TR News; New Zealand and Australia deaths rates for COVID-19 the same almost (less than 5% margin), but NZ had a long head start with vaccination before the spread. Demography similar, so it's not entirely clear if mass vaccination is anywhere near as effective as distance, mask, insulation. We need independent efficacy studies, not marketing junk from salespeople.
13:51 TR News; In the UK, 90% of those who die of COVID-19 are vaccinated with COVID-19 products, based on the official data. Efficacy can't be THAT good. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/04/ons-vaccine-data/
13:51 TR Bot; Blog Archive ONS Data: In May (Latest Data Available) COVID-19 Killed 149 Brits Who Turned Down COVID-19 Vaccines, 1,439 Who Received Such Vaccines
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13:52 TR News; COVID minimisers: people who think it's OK to mingle while COVID-19 is prevalent. Examples: British government. COVIDiots: people who say "the pandemic is over" when in fact it is rebounding if not surging. In the UK, it's worse now than same time 1 year ago and 2 years ago.
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14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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14:29 XRevan86; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/releases/0.3.59 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/releases/0.4.12
14:29 TR Bot; 0.3.59 PipeWire / pipewire GitLab
14:29 TR Bot; 0.4.12 PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab
14:36 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/la2Wpil.png
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14:47 DaemonFC; Most Illinois state Web sites are now blocking VPN users if the VPN IP address is outside of the US.
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14:55 schestowitz[TR]; hi, lupo
14:56 lupo; o/
14:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Now I have another fume leak somewhere it seems.
14:56 DaemonFC; More smoke tests if the code comes back.
14:57 DaemonFC; I can't imagine this one would be in the gas tank again. This one says "minor evap leak". The last one was "gross evap leak".
14:57 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/04/a78973
14:57 TR Bot; Kremlin Hails Musks Attempt at Ukraine Peace Deal - The Moscow Times
14:57 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: in another channel we mentioned thisa
14:57 schestowitz-TR; and the horse+carriage joke
14:58 DaemonFC; Just awful.
14:58 schestowitz-TR; see the logs for #boycottnovell tomorrow
14:58 schestowitz-TR; or using /history in irc
14:58 schestowitz-TR; you have a kid now
14:58 schestowitz-TR; the buick
14:59 schestowitz-TR; peace would be good, DaemonFC
14:59 schestowitz-TR; but rhetoric from a fraud is not helpful
14:59 schestowitz-TR; he has a history of lying for attention
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14:59 DaemonFC; Musk suggests a "referendum" under UN supervision.
14:59 schestowitz-TR; but if a proposal from him brought peace, I'd welcome iot
14:59 DaemonFC; This is not a solution.
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I also welcomes him exposing twitter as a SPAMFARM
15:00 schestowitz-TR; and later a high-level whistleblower did the sam
15:00 DaemonFC; (1) It would probably still pass because Putin has cowed or ran out or murdered all of the opposition by now.
15:00 schestowitz-TR; *same
15:00 DaemonFC; (2) It would legitimize the taking of territory from another state.
15:01 schestowitz-TR; russia makes people miserable
15:01 schestowitz-TR; by attacking infra
15:01 XRevan86; On what territory would that referendum even take place?
15:01 schestowitz-TR; and then uses the appalling conditions it imposes
15:01 schestowitz-TR; to caue dfeatism
15:01 schestowitz-TR; that's not choice
15:01 XRevan86; Who would be the participants? This would require a complete ceasefire.
15:01 schestowitz-TR; set aside fake referendum protocols
15:02 XRevan86; Musk's proposal is a logistical nightmare.
15:02 XRevan86; Is he really a businessman that deals with large organisations?
15:02 DaemonFC; Hey, he was in a picture with the Pope.
15:02 DaemonFC; So that practically makes him the Pope.
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15:03 TR News; Just because someone is a racist doesn't mean that everything that someone says is false. Just because someone is an antiracist doesn't mean that everything that someone says is true.
15:03 MinceR; musk is a sociopath with rich parents
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; he was hated as a kid too
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; to the point where other pupils tried to kill him
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; kids
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; he spins that as childhood trauma
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; to seem like a victim
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; I'm sure billg was deeply traumatised by pie in the face
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; or getting arrested severasl times for breaking the law
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; poor bill
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; always breaking the law
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; and then dragged to a cell
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; K &L Gates on the way to pay bail
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; (note: I know it was not K &L gates just yet, pre-merger)
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; the police is hateful
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; gates 'bashing'
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; report them for CoC violations
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; and the cops would be canceled
15:06 starstreak; linucks btw
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; attack serf-ICE
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15:07 techuser; hi
15:07 TR News; The Linux Foundation expresses gratitude, upfront, to only one company: Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/
15:07 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Events Now Run by Linuxs Biggest Foe | Techrights
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; hi asilo
15:07 asilo; helo
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; i think we got an FTP daemon here
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; (geek joke)
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; ("must be over this age to 'get' it...")
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; to GET it.
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15:09 TR News; iTWire - Government should also share blame for Optus fiasco: Budde https://itwire.com/security/government-should-also-share-blame-for-optus-fiasco-budde.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/government-should-also-share-blame-for-optus-fiasco-budde.html
15:09 TR Bot; - Government should also share blame for Optus fiasco: Budde
15:10 TR News; Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/04/khadas-edge2-review-with-android-12/
15:10 TR Bot; Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 - CNX Software
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15:11 TR News; GNU Units version 2.22 (stable) released on 5 September 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Units
15:11 TR Bot; Units - Free Software Directory
15:12 TR News; GNU Gama version 2.23 (stable) released on 12 September 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gama background: https://www.gnu.org/software/gama/
15:12 TR Bot; Gama - Free Software Directory
15:12 TR Bot; GNU Gama
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15:16 TR News; Optus announced the breach on 22 September. However, only last evening did the company specify the numbers affected, with a total of 2.1 million taking a hit.
15:16 TR News; FBI sting operations to create more Russophobia? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/nsa-employee-charged-with-espionage.html
15:16 TR Bot; Employee Charged with Espionage - Schneier on Security
15:17 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/guides/bypass-microsoft-account-requirement-when-setting-up-windows-11-with-internet/
15:17 TR Bot; Bypass Microsoft Account requirement when setting up Windows 11 with internet - Neowin
15:17 DaemonFC; "I hit Enter to bypass having to use a password."
15:17 DaemonFC; Ah yes, the famous Windows security that security expert mjg59_ keeps talking about.
15:18 TR News; The White House just unveiled a new "Hey Hi" Bill of Rights https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/04/1060600/white-house-ai-bill-of-rights/ while MIT "Hey Hi" Lab takes bribes from Bill Gates and his underage sex trafficking buddy, Jeffrey Epstein
15:18 TR Bot; The White House just moved to hold AI more accountable | MIT Technology Review
15:19 techuser; people don't care about passwords. They won't even bother resetting it, which isn't difficult if there is no disk encryption. They will just use rubber-hose cryptanalysis if it ever becomes an issue for someone.
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; mjg11
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; mgj coming soon
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; with more "security"
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; mjg12
15:19 TR News; (NEW): VideoLAN has issued a legal notice to DoT and MeitY for banning their website in India http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/VideoLAN_has_issued_a_legal_notice_to_DoT_and_MeitY_for_banning.gmi
15:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines VideoLAN has issued a legal notice to DoT and MeitY for banning their website in India
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 schestowitz[TR]; mjg will have genetic algorithms"
15:20 schestowitz[TR]; for "security"
15:20 schestowitz[TR]; mjg12, out next year
15:20 schestowitz[TR]; in 30 editions
15:20 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithm
15:20 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithm )
15:21 MinceR; serverless cloud security ai
15:21 schestowitz[TR]; on the blackSmoke chain
15:21 schestowitz[TR]; clouds can be serverless
15:21 schestowitz[TR]; because the servers are now clowns
15:21 schestowitz[TR]; hence, no "server"
15:21 schestowitz[TR]; they are "abstracted" away
15:22 MinceR; :>
15:22 schestowitz[TR]; serverlessless
15:22 schestowitz[TR]; it's like serverless
15:22 XRevan86; https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-04/eu-lawmakers-overwhelmingly-vote-to-force-usb-c-onto-phones
15:22 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
15:22 schestowitz[TR]; but without serverless
15:22 schestowitz[TR]; and then you have NoNoSQL
15:22 schestowitz[TR]; aka SQL
15:22 MinceR; lol
15:23 DaemonFC; With remote attestation. By Microsoft.
15:23 MinceR; on top of UEFI
15:23 DaemonFC; Backed by the Intel Management Engine.
15:23 MinceR; using systemd and gnome running on top of WSL2
15:24 TR News; SpellBinding: CEMOUTP Wordo: VIRAL gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-04.gmi
15:25 schestowitz[TR]; mjg 20 years ago: Windows XP should have come with a cismale edition. zing.
15:25 schestowitz[TR]; Windows XP
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; when mjg was still monkey-slapping his testosterone-buddies with anti-trans jokes
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, xp might still ahve mmore willful users than vsta11
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; and Microsoft 'upgrade' users to "11" without consent
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; because microsoft has no respect for boundasries
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; why should it?
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; the brigade never even target microsoft
15:26 DaemonFC; I was looking at Mozilla's documentation on Firefox "Quantum" and Windows XP crashes.
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; it even cancels people using PROPRIETARY microsoft platforms that WOKR FOR ICE consentration camps
15:27 DaemonFC; It wasn't anywhere near as bad as they said the problem was.
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; didn't mozilla abandon xp ages ago?
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; like 5 years aog?
15:27 DaemonFC; It increased Firefox crashes by about 15% over baseline.
15:27 DaemonFC; Yeah, but this is documentation from their telemetry as of Firefox 57.
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, oepra targeted xp
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; to latch onto "old" windows uers
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; *users
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; fiefox IS telemetry
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's getting increasingly hard to fix
15:28 DaemonFC; There's a couple of browsers that still run on Windows XP, though probably nothing you've ever heard of.
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; you need full-time devs removing this and making derivatives
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; or android 1-3
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; old browsers
15:28 DaemonFC; It would probably be possible to build SeaMonkey on XP, but for how much longer, I don't know.
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; for old android
15:29 DaemonFC; It's not running on "Quantum".
15:29 schestowitz[TR]; but old android has tld compatibility issues
15:29 DaemonFC; If you get SeaMonkey up and running, it buys you a few more years to use most Web sites.
15:29 schestowitz[TR]; on old machines
15:29 schestowitz[TR]; the new machnes don't last very long
15:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], So then Fedora brought back the vaapi drivers and put them in a different package.
15:31 DaemonFC; Then they bumped mesa again to change the name of the package.
15:31 matteobin; Why would someone want to use Windows XP?
15:31 matteobin; To browse the Internet, I mean.
15:31 DaemonFC; <matteobin> Why would someone want to use Windows XP?
15:31 DaemonFC; I know people who do that.
15:32 matteobin; What are their reasons?
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; old PC
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; sort of works
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; cannot run Vista x*
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; used by 'old fart'
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; who gets y and z done, then turns it off
15:33 matteobin; They could switch to GNU/Linux.
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: why do people still ride a car from 2001?
15:33 DaemonFC; I got a Midas rebate on my credit card of 10%. They're pretty bad.
15:33 DaemonFC; $89.99 for a synthetic oil change.
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; they're missing out all all the smart shiiny gizmos
15:34 DaemonFC; The DEALER charges $69.99!
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; synthetic oil?
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; is that like patented shit?
15:34 matteobin; I've got a FreeDOS PC I use. My question is why would they want to browse the Internet with a Windows XP PC.
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; chemistry patents?
15:34 DaemonFC; Yeah. I use synthetic oil in my cars.
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; because they cannot patent natural oils?
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15:35 DaemonFC; No, the term is basically a misnomer, schestowitz[TR]
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; <matteobin> They could switch to GNU/Linux.
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; yes, but you need to explain this to them
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; the emdia pretends it's mac or "pc"
15:35 DaemonFC; In American cars, when you say you're using full synthetic, what you really mean is that they've highly refined crude oil.
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; asometimes windows or "chromebooks|"
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15:36 schestowitz[TR]; so it's like "synthetic" vodka
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; triple "synthetic"
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; (distiiled)
15:37 *schestowitz[TR] leaves chair. ima gonna get me some synthetic booze
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15:38 DaemonFC; If you look at "conventional" motor oil then a lot of stuff pre-2011 can use it.
15:39 DaemonFC; But it breaks down and loses its protective capabilities and leaves sludge and wax eventually if you go long enough without changing it.
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; liek rpinter toner
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; or inkjet cartridges
15:39 DaemonFC; The computer in the Buick figures you're using full synthetic.
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; wait till they digitall ban "unauthorised" oil
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; the unpatented stuff
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; and use FUD to caution you about using "generic" car oil
15:39 DaemonFC; You can pour it in your engine and use it, but it voids the warranty in most newer cars.
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; Big (Car)Oil ;-)
15:40 DaemonFC; The car companies only warrant the engine if you use motor oil that complies with the specification.
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: wait til, they put computers there too
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; to "check" what you put it
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; for "yuor safety"
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; "smarrrrrt"
15:40 DaemonFC; Yeah, so far they can't do that.
15:41 DaemonFC; But if you use unapproved oil and it starts sludging the engine, they can absolutely say they refuse to warrant it and they suspect you've used the incorrect oil.
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; "my car is soooo smammrt... it knows everything about me... even knows how to contact the police, the local authoritiwes, and Microsofrt"
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you can deny
15:42 DaemonFC; Engine sludge is a pretty bad problem. One that you can easily avoid by using higher end motor oils, even in older cars that don't strictly need it.
15:42 DaemonFC; You end up paying about the same, even a little less, over time, with the synthetics.
15:42 DaemonFC; You can drive longer between changes.
15:43 DaemonFC; You're not going to "blow up the engine" in an older car using conventional oil, but you have to change it out about twice as often.
15:43 TR News; Child exploitation/slavery at Gulag Deutschland (aka 'FSF'E) https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20221004-01.en.html see http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/
15:43 TR Bot; Youth Hacking 4 Freedom Winners - FSFE
15:43 TR Bot; Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights
15:43 DaemonFC; So if you're taking it somewhere and having them do it for you, you're paying two-thirds of the cost of just getting synthetic, so you can drive half as long before you need another oil change.
15:44 DaemonFC; You're not actually "saving" any money. It just seems like you are.
15:44 TR News; Canonical today: "We open source" but we PROMOTE the PROPRIETARY software of MICROSOFT https://ubuntu.com//blog/3-step-guide-to-start-hacktoberfest
15:44 TR Bot; step guide to start Hacktoberfest | Ubuntu
15:45 TR News; Kubeflow 1.6 on Kubernetes 1.23 and beyond | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/kubeflow-on-kubernetes-1-23 Source: Ubuntubuzz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/kubeflow-on-kubernetes-1-23
15:45 TR Bot; 1.6 on Kubernetes 1.23 and beyond | Ubuntu
15:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Obviously there's a lot of expensive stuff in the engine.
15:46 DaemonFC; A guy came into the shop today because his timing chain is all fucked up and making a horrific noise.
15:46 DaemonFC; $1,800 job.
15:46 DaemonFC; Now, who knows why, but.....
15:46 TR News; Canonical advertises Microsoft Github, which is proprietary (it attacks both Git and "Open Source", it's an occupation, siege) https://ubuntu.com//blog/3-step-guide-to-start-hacktoberfest
15:47 DaemonFC; If you're not changing your oil at the correct intervals with the correct oil, you can absolutely damage the timing chain.
15:48 DaemonFC; Do you want an $1,800 repair bill in your hand because the manual says "Use 5w20 full synthetic." and you go "You know, AutoZone is having a sale on 10w30 conventional Castrol and they're basically the same. The owner's manual is full of shit. I'm so smart!"?
15:48 DaemonFC; They don't tell you what to use because the engineers mean "Put whatever the fuck you want in there. Go crazy!".
15:49 TR News; Some videos of 'Linux' Foundation receive just as many views as Spamnil. They're both using Google's YouTube to FAKE their importance with clickfraud though. The view count is so low that there's no actual incentive to produce them, but it's a scam.
15:49 starstreak; attack surface os btw
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15:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I do ignore the manual for oil sometimes. But only because either the OEM has tested and approved a different viscosity later on that wasn't on the market when the manual was printed, or because the viscosity index range is superior to what the manual requires under the conditions in which I expect to be using the car.
15:52 DaemonFC; I used 0w20 in the Ford and 0w30 in my GM 3800s.
15:52 schestowitz[TR]; we use taxi now
15:52 schestowitz[TR]; no need for manual
15:52 schestowitz[TR]; just landline
15:52 DaemonFC; It gets brutally cold here in the winter and that's not a bad idea.
15:52 schestowitz[TR]; no need for gps either
15:52 DaemonFC; They call for 5w20 and 5w30.
15:52 DaemonFC; It's that second number that's more important.
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; ok
15:53 DaemonFC; It's where the oil viscosity index is at under full operating temperature.
15:53 DaemonFC; The first number is at cold start and between that and operating temp.
15:53 DaemonFC; So if you go with 0w, basically it just flows better in the cold and reaches the top of the engine faster.
15:54 DaemonFC; The car also tends to start a bit easier when the temperature is extremely cold.
15:54 TR News; CoCs are about control, not safety. I never heard of someone getting killed or mained at a FOSS event.
15:54 schestowitz[TR]; *maimed
15:54 DaemonFC; There's a video on Youtube showing the flow rate of 5w30 and 0w30 full synthetic oil at -20 F.
15:55 DaemonFC; The 5w30 is like a viscous pancake syrup that you've been storing in the coldest part of your refrigerator.
15:56 DaemonFC; And the 0w30 flows almost like water at that temperature. It's a pretty big difference. But....around 5 degrees F, there's no longer a big difference anymore. So you get far enough down south, you're likely safe to just use 5w30 all year.
15:58 DaemonFC; The longer it takes oil to reach the critical parts of the engine and to begin lubricating them, the longer they run "dry" and the sooner your engine fails or doing nasty things due to excessive wear.
15:59 DaemonFC; It's better to ensure that it doesn't happen, because worn out pistons or spun bearings are basically going to be "time to start looking for another car" if you've got serious age or mileage on it.
15:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], If people just took better care of what they have it would last them longer.
16:00 DaemonFC; The manufacturer doesn't want you to change out transmission fluids and filters, because if the transmission fails, you need a new car.
16:00 DaemonFC; Think about it from their angle and then think why they deleted that from recent owners manuals.
16:01 DaemonFC; The manufacturer doesn't really mind if you don't flush your coolant out when you should.
16:01 DaemonFC; If your coolant system plugs up and your engine overheats, you're back buying a new car.
16:02 DaemonFC; So these cars are very "low maintained". Just buy another one every 5 years. You'll be a lot happier. Many things have improved! Just look at how safe this one is. It's running software from mjg59_ that scans your facial expressions in real time and decides whether you're too tired or drunk to drive.
16:02 DaemonFC; Won't you just love that? I mean, from the people who brought you "The steering wheel fights you when you try to change lanes to get on the freeway.".
16:03 DaemonFC; If I had a car that tried to scan my face to see if I was too tired to drive, there'd be no way to get Mandy to work in the morning.
16:04 DaemonFC; The Democrats think they can make cars so horrible and expensive that poor people give up trying to have one while rich people still have 50 of them and 9 private jets that they get in to fly 50 miles.
16:05 DaemonFC; The goal of the Democratic Party is to lower the living standard of the bottom 90% to "free up resources". They're an elitist bunch of snobs, and it's time someone sent the fuckers packing.
16:06 DaemonFC; I have an idea for people in Florida. Maybe try getting away from the ocean instead of expecting tax payers to rebuild your condos every year.
16:06 DaemonFC; Fuck off.
16:07 DaemonFC; Our planet isn't "crying out" for anything. The reason these storms do more damage in dollars every time is because Biden has lowered the value of the dollar 30% since he took office last year....
16:07 DaemonFC; That's for starters.
16:08 DaemonFC; And people have built fucking condos and malls and shit everywhere in Florida and pumped up the "value" in real estate schemes.
16:08 DaemonFC; A lot of the stuff wasn't even built to spec to stand up to the weather that they should expect to hve.
16:08 DaemonFC; Then it all gets knocked over and the federal government hands them more handouts.
16:10 DaemonFC; So they go "Oh, the dollar value of the damage is 50% higher than the last worst one.".
16:10 DaemonFC; How does that happen? Gee, I don't know. Why is bread $4 a loaf now?
16:12 TR News; Better to rewrite in a syntax not controlled by the foremost enemy of Linux https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-powershell/
16:12 TR Bot; How to Install PowerShell on the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/hifi-made-in-hungary-ncs-audio/
16:14 TR Bot; Hifi Made in Hungary: NCS Audio | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; "Last weekend, I visited a special audio event in Budapest."
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; They actually make these?
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; or produce in china, then advertise as local?
16:15 starstreak; linucks has attack surface btw
16:15 TR News; FCC Cracking Down on Robocalls With a Threat to Voice Service Providers - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/fcc-cracking-down-on-robocalls-voice-service-providers/ Source: Make Tech Easier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/fcc-cracking-down-on-robocalls-voice-service-providers/
16:15 TR Bot; FCC Cracking Down on Robocalls With a Threat to Voice Service Providers - Make Tech Easier
16:15 highest_cubist_thrills; it does, its over 9000
16:16 starstreak; its overrrr 9000
16:16 schestowitz[TR]; linucks... well, it's dead
16:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean they could still use a bsd kernel
16:16 highest_cubist_thrills; or if theyre really clever, they could replace the kernel with the bsd license.
16:16 starstreak; wait, linucks is dead?
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; yes
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; but if it's not good, at least make it look good
16:18 highest_cubist_thrills; making it good would require a fork
16:18 highest_cubist_thrills; and linux isnt forkable
16:18 highest_cubist_thrills; the point of entryism is infiltration
16:18 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft infiltrated
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; it still does
16:18 highest_cubist_thrills; only a fork could be good
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; it's not over
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; then they attack the fork too
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; oir create their own
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; OSI and OSI
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; OSI2
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; not the OSI Model
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; OSI2=SFC
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; Synk=DenyDuck2
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; DuckDuckGo=BingMarked
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
16:19 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Black_Duck
16:19 TR Bot; Black Duck - Techrights
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; you know what they say
16:20 schestowitz[TR]; if it quacks like a duck..
16:20 schestowitz[TR]; grab it by the thigh
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:21 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
16:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
16:21 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
16:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
16:29 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], if linucks is dead why aren't you running BSD?
16:31 TR News; Iran: Alarm over mass arrests of human rights defenders amidst protests - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/iran-mass-arrests-hrds/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/iran-mass-arrests-hrds/
16:31 TR Bot; Iran: Alarm over mass arrests of human rights defenders amidst protests - Access Now
16:32 starstreak; i use linucks because there is no microsoft edge for freebsd
16:32 highest_cubist_thrills; X)
16:33 schestowitz[TR]; knife's EDGE
16:33 starstreak; Gnome Shell (windows 8 styled), Evolution (Outlook), Powershell and Microsoft Edge
16:34 starstreak; oh and i can't forget vscode!
16:34 TR News; "Among the loveliest illuminations of Bartholomaeus Anglicus' encyclopedia, Evrard d'Espinque's illuminations use a T-O pattern to trace the Great Chain of Being." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/despinque-anglicus-illuminations/
16:34 TR Bot; Evrard d'Espinques Illuminations of *De Proprietatibus Rerum* (ca. 1480) The Public Domain Review
16:34 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft vs code
16:34 schestowitz[TR]; it wants resellers
16:34 schestowitz[TR]; not coders
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; the onyl code microsoft wants is code of conduct
16:35 starstreak; using my outlook.com account in evolution via exchange protocol is pretty sweet, my calander events show up in the system tray menu
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. censorship mechanism to protect crimincals
16:35 highest_cubist_thrills; Gnome Shell (windows 8 styled), Evolution (Outlook), Powershell and Microsoft Edge <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hwBBYQDJnfs
16:35 TR Bot; Gordon Ramsay HATING food for one hour ( Kitchen Nightmares ) - Invidious
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/the-linux-experiment-confused/
16:35 TR Bot; The Linux Experiment Thinks RMS is the Enemy and Microsoft is Not | Techrights
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/10/04/microsoft-controls-linux-foundation-using-money/
16:35 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Events Now Run by Linuxs Biggest Foe | Techrights
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; >> my calander events show up in the system tray menu
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; That's what she (Microsoft) said
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; they get all your data
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; why would you want that?
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
16:36 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
16:36 starstreak; lol
16:36 DaemonFC; Windows 11 does not "look like GNOME" or "KDE". It copies.
16:37 TR News; mrcal 2.2 released http://notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2022/10/04_mrcal-22-released.html Source: Stefano Marinelli | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//notes.secretsauce.net/notes/2022/10/04_mrcal-22-released.html
16:37 TR Bot; mrcal 2.2 released
16:37 DaemonFC; It copies from everything.
16:37 starstreak; i used to use my outlook.com account as my main email so I added it to evolution to move my data off
16:37 DaemonFC; Lately, everything on the taskbar has to be center-aligned because that's what Chromebooks do.
16:39 starstreak; good news, microsoft edge doesn't exist on arch linucks
16:39 starstreak; no package
16:39 highest_cubist_thrills; \o/
16:40 starstreak; microsoft recently added vpn to edge and its on by default
16:41 DaemonFC; LOL
16:41 DaemonFC; Spyware adds "VPN".
16:41 starstreak; brave has vpn built in too but you gotta pay for it
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16:42 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft in the middle
16:43 highest_cubist_thrills; users on the edge
16:43 starstreak; in all honesty, im looking forward to Gnome Web 43
16:43 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmer on the thighs
16:55 TR News; iTWire - Telstra gets in on data leak action, staff data posted online https://itwire.com/security/telstra-gets-in-on-data-leak-action,-staff-data-posted-online.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/telstra-gets-in-on-data-leak-action,-staff-data-posted-online.html
16:55 TR Bot; - Telstra gets in on data leak action, staff data posted online
16:55 TR News; Windows or Mac? I Dislike One, But Hate The Other! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Xg6LdzwK6b4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Xg6LdzwK6b4
16:55 TR Bot; Windows or Mac? I Dislike One, But Hate The Other! - Invidious
16:55 schestowitz[TR]; leave me the wings, steve!
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16:56 highest_cubist_thrills; god thats disturbing
16:56 DaemonFC; This is weird.
16:56 DaemonFC; My left Ctrl stopped working and then decided to work again.
16:57 DaemonFC; I probably wouldn't replace the keyboard module just over a ctrl key. Worst thing, I have one on the right as well.
16:58 MinceR; https://i.ibb.co/M1LpH8r/310312746-637656397726471-102804007543898580-n.jpg
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 143.80
16:59 psydruid; McWindows's or McApple's?
17:00 highest_cubist_thrills; McJagger
17:00 psydruid; Such a tough choice to make as to which one sucks the most
17:00 highest_cubist_thrills; windows sucks more
17:00 highest_cubist_thrills; apple at least can be scripted
17:00 highest_cubist_thrills; but they made it as tedious as they can
17:01 TR News; Podcast: Frederic Branczyk on Continuous Profiling Leveraging eBPF https://www.infoq.com/podcasts/continuous-profiling-leveraging-eBPF/
17:01 TR Bot; Frederic Branczyk on Continuous Profiling Leveraging eBPF
17:01 TR News; "This book was so bad. A more sensible person than I would have given up after the first hundred pages, but I was too stubborn. The stubbornness did not pay off." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/1-59780-099-6.html
17:01 starstreak; i use linucks because its free software
17:01 TR Bot; Review: The Dragon Never Sleeps by Glen Cook
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; it used to be
17:02 starstreak; it still is
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; no freedom 3
17:02 starstreak; what is freedom 3
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; the freedom to distribute modified versions
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; linucks is unforkable
17:02 starstreak; you can
17:02 starstreak; linucks can be forked
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; its a source blob
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; prove it
17:03 starstreak; you *could* hire a team of people to work on it
17:03 psydroid3; that's true
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, so
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; a corporation could maintain linucks
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but
17:03 TR News; 'FSF'E pretends "Free Software in France gains attention" because of itself https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202210.en.html
17:03 TR Bot; Free Software in France +++ Hackerspace in Albania +++ Job - FSFE
17:03 starstreak; oh look: https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; then theyll just get infiltrated
17:03 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: GNU Linux-libre project
17:04 starstreak; linux libre, so it was forked
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; ah, i talked to the linux-libre people
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; they cant fork it either
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre really not forking it
17:04 psydroid3; a Microsoft/IBM-employed all-star team of Linux kernel and GNU/systemd developers
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre really just patching it
17:05 starstreak; ok
17:05 TR News; 'FSF'E conditions you to think any good news from Europe regarding Free software is THANKS to itself. This is propaganda; they try to raise money this way, while pretending to be "like FSF"... "but for European donors" (it's a lie)
17:05 highest_cubist_thrills; its a limited form of freedom 3 to be sure
17:05 highest_cubist_thrills; what im saying is
17:05 starstreak; the license is GPL, so really you just need a good team to study the source code and work on it
17:05 highest_cubist_thrills; linucks has no future, or present, outside of corporate control
17:05 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not freedom
17:06 psydroid3; fake freedom for fake freedom fighters
17:06 starstreak; GPL means freedom to fork
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; corporations controlling users is not what gnu was about
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; /me writes out a permit to move mt fuji
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; youre free to move it wherever you want
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; anywhere you can ship it, the permit allows
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; they just bloat a project until only corporations can maintain (control) it
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; its a scam
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; its a brilliant scam
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; it works
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; unforkable: linucks
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; unforkable: systemd
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; unforkable: gnome 3 probably
17:09 starstreak; so you're saying free software that becomes too big becomes non free software
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; im saying its effectively non-free
17:09 starstreak; but the source code license says its still technically forkable
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, and the permit says you can move mt fuji wherever you like
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; its a portable mountain now.
17:09 starstreak; so thunderbird and firefox are non free?
17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; firefox to be fair, was forked
17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; so at least that version was forkable
17:10 starstreak; firefox is just as bloated as linucks in size of code
17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but as mincer will point out, none of the forks have resulted in freedom
17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; i think icecat was close
17:10 psydroid3; firefox will become more forkable when it dies
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah they can put a fork in it
17:11 TR News; (NEW): Best Command Line BitTorrent Clients for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Command_Line_BitTorrent_Clients_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Best_Command_Line_BitTorrent_Clients_for_Linux.gmi
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; it takes a lot more expertise to maintain linucks than firefox
17:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Command Line BitTorrent Clients for Linux
17:11 psydroid3; then I would chop up the codebase and fix the build system
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; so just going by loc isnt a reliable metric
17:11 starstreak; like i said earlier though, i use linucks because openbsd doesn't have microsoft edge
17:11 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: maybe legal virtuoso baker will figure out a way to curtail that
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; lol :)
17:11 psydroid3; to not require umpteen versions of automake, autolocal and whatever cruft is there
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; is microsoft edge free software?
17:12 starstreak; i dont think so
17:12 MinceR; 04 180359 < highest_cubist_thrills> then theyll just get infiltrated
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; does the pop poo in the woods?
17:12 starstreak; i was kidding tho
17:12 MinceR; or bought
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; or bought
17:12 starstreak; i switched from brave to firefox because brenden eich is terrible and i don't want to help make him rich
17:13 highest_cubist_thrills; which is a very effective way to infiltrate
17:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, you own it
17:13 highest_cubist_thrills; its full infiltration
17:13 MinceR; it's MICROS~1's old MO
17:13 highest_cubist_thrills; meet the new m.o. same as the old m.o.
17:16 schestowitz[TR]; mo.o. salah
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; chutiya salah
17:17 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Farstechnica.com%252Fscience%252F2022%252F10%252Fwalmart-cvs-face-trial-for-putting-sham-homeopathic-products-next-to-real-meds%252F
17:17 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
17:18 TR News; Larabel has a large pole up his spine and it's run by the strings of Nazi IBM: "The key takeaways from the materials provided in advance by IBM ahead of today's announcements" https://www.phoronix.com/news/IBM-Red-Hat-Storage
17:18 TR Bot; Does A "Quasi-Acquisition" Of Red Hat Storage - Phoronix
17:18 DaemonFC; IceCat works fine when you turn off all of those shitty extensions it comes with and replace them with the ones you want to use.
17:19 TR News; Larabel also says "IP" instead of software patents. He speaks the bully's language.
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:22 TR News; (NEW): Stellarium 1.0 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Stellarium_1_0_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Stellarium_1_0_Released.gmi
17:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Stellarium 1.0 Released
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17:23 psydroid3; Muppet Larabel
17:23 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, they can buy people too
17:24 TR News; PostgreSQL 15 RC 1 Released! (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/PostgreSQL_15_RC_1_Released.shtml
17:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL 15 RC 1 Released! (UPDATED)
17:26 DaemonFC; I need to free up some more space on my backup drive.
17:26 DaemonFC; I'm considering converting it to BtrFS.
17:30 *psydroid3 is considering putting some BtrFS on his bread
17:33 starstreak; linucks btw
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17:42 psydroid3; also on someone's head
17:43 psydroid3; I think a certain Muppet qualifies for that experience
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17:45 psydroid3; the full name is Michael Muppet Laravel
18:01 starstreak; daemonfc is a muppet
18:10 AdmFubar; bork bork bork!!!
18:10 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/walmart-and-cvs-will-go-to-trial-for-placing-bogus-homeopathic-products-next-to-legit-over-the-counter-meds/
18:10 TR Bot; Walmart and CVS will go to trial for placing bogus homeopathic products next to legit over-the-counter meds - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i think hes from avenue q
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18:17 AdmFubar; https://www.salon.com/2022/10/04/ukraine-ambassador-torches-elon-musks-peace-plan-fk-off-is-my-very-diplomatic-reply-to-you_partner/
18:17 TR Bot; ambassador torches Elon Musk's "peace" plan: "F**k off is my very diplomatic reply to you" | Salon.com
18:17 AdmFubar; elon suffers from foot in mouth up to ass disease!
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:23 AdmFubar; https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/10/04/1622252/musk-proposes-to-proceed-with-twitter-deal-at-5420-a-share---bloomberg?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
18:23 TR Bot; Musk Proposes To Proceed With Twitter Deal at $54.20 a Share - Bloomberg - Slashdot
18:24 AdmFubar; https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/10/03/2327248/universities-adapt-to-googles-new-storage-fees-or-migrate-away-entirely?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
18:24 TR Bot; Universities Adapt To Google's New Storage Fees, Or Migrate Away Entirely - Slashdot
18:28 AdmFubar; worm spit to save the world! https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/04/wax-worm-saliva-rapidly-breaks-down-plastic-bags-scientists-discover
18:28 TR Bot; Wax worm saliva rapidly breaks down plastic bags, scientists discover | Plastics | The Guardian
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:46 starstreak; linucks btw
19:46 mjg59_; Woo rust support for merged
19:59 XRevan86; Would've made sense to make *that* 6.0.
19:59 starstreak; i like the feeling of rust on my salad fingers
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:21 psydroid3; rust is the best thing since the invention of iron
20:24 TR News; (NEW): Collabora Announces NVK, a New Open-Source Vulkan Driver for NVIDIA Hardware in Mesa http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Collabora_Announces_NVK_a_New_Open_Source_Vulkan_Driver.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Collabora_Announces_NVK_a_New_Open_Source_Vulkan_Driver.gmi
20:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Collabora Announces NVK, a New Open-Source Vulkan Driver for NVIDIA Hardware in Mesa
20:32 TR News; Massive regression: Ubuntu with mass surveillance, inc. mouse tracking and keylogging by Amazon and American spy agencies. https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/amazon-workspaces-core-ubuntu/
20:32 TR Bot; AWS Introduces Amazon Workspaces Core and Support for Ubuntu Desktops on Amazon Workspaces
20:33 TR News; (NEW): You thought you bought software all you bought was a lie http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/You_thought_you_bought_software_all_you_bought_was_a_lie.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/You_thought_you_bought_software_all_you_bought_was_a_lie.gmi
20:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines You thought you bought software all you bought was a lie
20:34 TR News; "Interesting FOSS program time! ActivityWatch[1] is a time monitoring FOSS program. Compared to alternatives, it's fully FOSS, privacy-friendly and stores data locally. I thought it'd help me see how I spend my computer time, thus would prove helpful in organizing it. If you're on Android it'll auto import your statistics from the OS." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/activitywatch.gmi
20:34 TR News; "On the Small Web we tend to be mindful of our computer usage and try to not get caught in the whirlwind of the WWW, so a helpful utility like ActivityWatch fits right in. I find it useful for keeping myself informed in regards to my screen time, not only that you can see what specific programs you use and you can group them based on various categories." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/activitywatch.gmi
20:35 TR News; "I know I don't post very often and I don't really participate in the gemini community. I'm not a very extroverted person and I became really depressed since the russian invasion of Ukraine, although my life hasn't changed that much. I wasn't hit by inflation that hard (yet) and I can still pay my bills." gemini://foobucket.xyz/gemlog/2022-10-04-A_rare_update.gmi
20:36 TR News; "OpenWeather forecasted clear skies in the early morning hours, so I decided to get up about 2am AKDT and do some star gazing. When I got outside about 2:30am, there was some mild green Aurora swirls." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221004-0.gmi
20:37 TR News; My open-source machine learning toolbox gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/machine-learning-toolbox.gmi
20:37 TR News; "At Lumina[1] (the statup I work), we switched our UI stack from Electron to Qt. Both are extremely popular and mature technologies, both had their pros and cons. But we ended up migrating by the end of 2021. I think the story is interesting and worth sharing. Hence this post." gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/10-04-the-easy-decision-to-more-from-electron-to-qt-at-lumina.gmi
20:38 MinceR; Qt requires creating an account for all sorts of things
20:38 MinceR; and then its installer fails to talk to the proxy
20:38 MinceR; great quality proprietary software.
20:39 MinceR; and in one of the cases there isn't even an option to "sign up" without a company
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20:40 TR News; Ewwww. https://medevel.com/next-js-desktop-apps/
20:40 TR Bot; Build Desktop Application with Next.js and Electron using Nextron
20:41 TR News; (NEW): Unix Basics It Pays To Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Unix_Basics_It_Pays_To_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Unix_Basics_It_Pays_To_Know.gmi
20:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Unix Basics It Pays To Know
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: to develop or to use?
20:42 TR News; IBM is extinguishing, not distinguishing, Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-storage-strategy-update
20:42 TR Bot; Red Hat Storage strategy update
20:42 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: <a href="https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/hifi-made-in-hungary-ncs-audio/">Peter Czanik: Hifi Made in Hungary: NCS Audio</a>
20:42 TR Bot; Hifi Made in Hungary: NCS Audio | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
20:43 TR News; Put your CPU to work with GNU Parallel | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/gnu-parallel Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/gnu-parallel
20:43 TR Bot; Put your CPU to work with GNU Parallel | Enable Sysadmin
20:43 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: to get/install developer tools
20:43 MinceR; the website is a mess, they really don't want you to use the "open source" version
20:43 TR News; ICBM Red Hat bragging about buzzwords https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/edge-computing-manufacturing
20:43 TR Bot; Edge computing: 5 use cases for manufacturing | The Enterprisers Project
20:44 TR News; ICBM: we fire loads of skilled people, then moan about "skills gaps across many sectors" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/it-interview-questions-prep
20:44 TR Bot; IT talent: 3 interview questions to prep for (and how to respond) | The Enterprisers Project
20:45 starstreak; "I'm your worst nightmare" -ESR (btw)
20:45 TR News; ICBM outsourcing Fedora to India, just like it did ICBM itself (to lower operating costs) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-hiring-a-software-engineer/
20:45 TR Bot; CPE hiring a software engineer Fedora Community Blog
20:47 TR News; Under IBM, Fedora does not even care about the needs of Indian users. http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
20:47 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: they ended up taking control of OSI
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; which he had cofounded
20:52 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/markets/europe/musk-said-go-ahead-with-5420-share-twitter-deal-bloomberg-reporter-2022-10-04/
20:52 TR Bot; Musk reverses again, ready to buy Twitter at original $44 bln price
20:52 TR News; Rahul's blog has been awful for about a month: Apple, Microsoft, and HEY HI hype, playing into this narrative that "HEY HI" is something new https://tecadmin.net/artificial-intelligence-how-it-will-change-the-future/
20:52 TR Bot; Artificial Intelligence: How It Will Change The Future TecAdmin
20:55 TR News; Java News Roundup: BellSoft Introduces Alpaquita Linux, GlassFish, WildFly, Hibernate, Tomcat https://www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/java-news-roundup-sep26-2022/ Source: InfoQ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.infoq.com/news/2022/10/java-news-roundup-sep26-2022/
20:55 TR Bot; Java News Roundup: BellSoft Introduces Alpaquita Linux, GlassFish, WildFly, Hibernate, Tomcat
20:55 TR News; [GIT PULL] Btrfs updates for 6.1 - David Sterba https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1664798047.git.dsterba@suse.com/ Source: SUSE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1664798047.git.dsterba@suse.com/
20:55 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Btrfs updates for 6.1 - David Sterba
20:56 DaemonFC; "He already took a highly rated comedy news program with high ratings and turned it into The Daily Two Minutes of Hate against White people. Oh, and he's not funny."
20:56 TR News; [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 - Herbert Xu https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yzv0wXi4Uu2WND37@gondor.apana.org.au/
20:56 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Crypto Update for 6.1 - Herbert Xu
20:56 DaemonFC; -Me on Trevor Noah leaving The Daily Show
20:56 TR News; [GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 6.1-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003174431.1189919-1-Jason@zx2c4.com/
20:56 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] random number generator updates for 6.1-rc1 - Jason A. Donenfeld
20:56 DaemonFC; Maybe I should edit this before I post.
20:56 DaemonFC; highly loved?
20:56 DaemonFC; much loved
20:56 DaemonFC; That's better.
20:57 TR News; AMD-sponsored site: AMD DEFECTS are... GOOD news!!! https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-zen4-spectrev2
20:57 TR Bot; Spectre V2 Mitigations Is What Can Impair AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Performance - Phoronix
20:58 DaemonFC; "What the Democrats have turned into is so bad that on most of my ballot this year for everything that has any real political power where there was an option, I voted for Republicans. Including Darren Bailey. I don't even agree with Darren Bailey or like the guy, I just think starting a food fight with the legislature may slow them down a bit so we don't get so many bills from the Burn Loot Murder caucus passed into law.
20:58 DaemonFC; Even Dictator Pritzker is now running away (softly) from the SAFE-T Act.
20:58 DaemonFC; There are child pornographers, murders, rapists, and a guy who beat a cat so badly it's missing half its face, in Lake County, like just read about these people, and they're the ones who go free without bail, miss their court appearance and the next time the police see them again it's because they've raped and murdered someone else.
20:58 DaemonFC; That's the SAFE-T Act, and that's not even touching the fact that Pritzker's "emergency powers" have not gone away, and they never will as long as he can get away with renewing them and saying COVID is out there.
20:58 DaemonFC; So let me get this straight. 12 people a day dying in a state of nearly 13 million is an emergency when it's COVID, but 100 people a day being shot in Chicago alone is not an emergency at all? Despite all of the "gun laws" they've passed, it just goes up because criminals don't obey the law.
20:58 DaemonFC; I had a traffic ticket last year and I got to talking with my lawyer. We beat the ticket, but while I was talking with him, he said he used to be a public defender. Now, I think criminals should be punished and the punishment should fit the crime, but I have a lot of respect for people who choose to do PD work because it's a thankless job and they're sometimes the last line of defense between a tyrannical court system going after a person who
20:58 DaemonFC; hasn't done anything, or at least anything that bad, but he was telling me the kind of clients he'd get, and how many of them spat at him and told him to go f**k himself. Their own lawyer! Who was representing them instead of getting some cushy private clients.
20:58 DaemonFC; And so we not only get criminals on the street who are some pretty bad folks under SAFE-T, but they're so stupid they assault their own defense attorney in open court."
20:58 DaemonFC; I changed my mind and voted for Bailey.
20:58 TR News; (NEW): Linux 5.19.13 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Linux_5_19_13.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Linux_5_19_13.gmi
20:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux 5.19.13
20:58 DaemonFC; Things have gotten so out of control in this state that Pritzker has to go.
20:58 DaemonFC; I don't care how, and I don't care who.
20:59 DaemonFC; As bad as Darren Bailey will be, he's got a few things damned right, and he actually works for a living.
20:59 TR News; (NEW): The first prototype of Adaptable Linux Platform is Live! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/The_first_prototype_of_Adaptable_Linux_Platform_is_Live.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/The_first_prototype_of_Adaptable_Linux_Platform_is_Live.gmi
20:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines The first prototype of Adaptable Linux Platform is Live!
20:59 TR News; (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM.gmi
20:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM
20:59 DaemonFC; He's earned the money he's made instead of being born into a hotel fortune.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 60.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 161.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 139.25
20:59 DaemonFC; He's a third generation farmer.
21:00 DaemonFC; I don't respect J.B. Pritzker at all. Just another sleazy billionaire Chicago politician. A very "rich liberal" you know.
21:00 DaemonFC; The ones who have no actual life experience and play to people who are going through some heavy shit like they can even relate to that.
21:02 DaemonFC; Many politicians "get rich", but it's not "billionaire who literally bought the election to amuse himself" rich, which is what happened with Pritzker.
21:02 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install TUXEDO OS 1" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XL-QRdr97VI
21:02 TR Bot; How to install TUXEDO OS 1 - Invidious
21:03 DaemonFC; Bailey amused me greatly when he called Chicago a "stinking hellhole", which is absolutely what it is.
21:03 DaemonFC; And don't get me wrong, I love Chicago and I agree with Bailey, at the same time.
21:03 TR News; Fani Partsafyllidou and Alexander Sander advertise youth exploitation/slavery by Gulag Deutschland https://www.fosslife.org/fsfe-announces-youth-hacking-4-freedom-winners http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/
21:03 TR Bot; FSFE Announces Youth Hacking 4 Freedom Winners
21:03 TR Bot; Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights
21:03 DaemonFC; There's a lot of good people in that city, but it's a stinking hellhole in the sense that the bad ones have fucked it up with bad politicians and a State's Attorney who lets all the criminals loose.
21:04 DaemonFC; And Lori Lightfoot is dumber than a bag full of shit.
21:04 TR News; New Linux Kernel (It's Starting To Get Rusty) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ShpSdXQCPU4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ShpSdXQCPU4
21:04 TR Bot; New Linux Kernel (It's Starting To Get Rusty) - Invidious
21:05 DaemonFC; We need someone who will clean up this mess, not give "Chicago-like" crime problems to the rest of the state.
21:05 DaemonFC; Bailey is also correct that taxes are too damned high.
21:06 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
21:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
21:06 TR News; (NEW): Videos: TUXEDO OS, 6.x of Linux, eBPF, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Videos_TUXEDO_OS_6_x_of_Linux_eBPF_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Videos_TUXEDO_OS_6_x_of_Linux_eBPF_and_More.gmi
21:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: TUXEDO OS, 6.x of Linux, eBPF, and More
21:06 DaemonFC; And most of those taxes go to prop up people who don't even work for the state anymore, and many weren't even all that necessary to begin with. The Madigan Political Machine made sure there were a lot of state jobs so there'd be a lot of voters and "volunteers" to get Democrats elected.
21:06 DaemonFC; Many of them laughed as soon as their fat pension checks started, and moved to Florida.
21:07 DaemonFC; They don't even spend the money in Illinois, which is where the taxes come from.
21:09 DaemonFC; They're just this gigantic drain on the state. Fully 25% of our tax money and rising is pretty much going to old people in Florida.
21:09 DaemonFC; We can't afford it. Every year, the state comes and cuts something else that we need and says it's because of pensions.
21:09 DaemonFC; But they won't do anything about the pensions.
21:10 TR News; (NEW): FSFE Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/FSFE_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/FSFE_Updates.gmi
21:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines FSFE Updates
21:10 DaemonFC; Oh, they're 24% funded of course, because the Democrats kept declaring "pension holidays" to run budget surpluses for individual years, and managed the investments corruptly.
21:10 DaemonFC; And now, politically too.
21:10 DaemonFC; They yank pension money out of Unilever because ice cream isn't being sold in Israel.
21:11 DaemonFC; Because it triggered our anti-BDS law.
21:11 DaemonFC; But that's just one minor issue. They invest in "clean energy scams" that go bankrupt instead of companies that make money.
21:12 DaemonFC; Then the AFSCME goes on the march with signs saying "pensions are a promise!". Yeah, tell it to the Democrats. They're the ones that invested your fuckin' pensions in Solyndra instead of Exxon.
21:12 MinceR; lol exxon
21:13 TR News; Canonical still pretends it's not control by Mark Shuttleworth (MS) and Microsoft. Guess who has the last word... not this "Community" Council (optics) https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/10/04/reminder-call-for-ubuntu-community-council-nominations/
21:13 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Reminder: Call for Ubuntu Community Council Nominations
21:13 DaemonFC; At least Exxon is in business.
21:13 DaemonFC; Those solar and battery car companies only exist because of taxpayers being robbed under threat of prison time if they don't pay up.
21:14 DaemonFC; Then the politicians stuff it into companies that fail anyway.
21:15 starstreak; i use ionos.ca btw
21:18 TR News; "Buy the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 with Ubuntu Linux ... If you dont want to do any of the things above and youd rather avoid Windows completely, you can buy the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 with Ubuntu Linux installed out of the box" https://www.xda-developers.com/can-i-run-ubuntu-linux-lenovo-thinkpad-x1-extreme-gen-5/
21:18 TR Bot; Can I run Ubuntu Linux on the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5?
21:18 TR News; (NEW): 5 Best Python IDE(s) and Code Editor(s) - Top List of 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_Best_Python_IDE_s_and_Code_Editor_s_Top_List_of_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_Best_Python_IDE_s_and_Code_Editor_s_Top_List_of_2022.gmi
21:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines 5 Best Python IDE(s) and Code Editor(s) - Top List of 2022
21:18 TR News; (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Community Council, AWS, Hacktoberfest, and Kubeflow http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Community_Council_AWS_Hacktoberfest_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Canonical_Ubuntu_Ubuntu_Community_Council_AWS_Hacktoberfest_and.gmi
21:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Community Council, AWS, Hacktoberfest, and Kubeflow
21:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], But will it actually let you turn off Matt GULAG Boot?
21:20 mjg59_; Yes
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:23 TR News; (NEW): Salix OS - A Powerful and Simple Slackware Distro http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Salix_OS_A_Powerful_and_Simple_Slackware_Distro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Salix_OS_A_Powerful_and_Simple_Slackware_Distro.gmi
21:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Salix OS - A Powerful and Simple Slackware Distro
21:23 DaemonFC; mjg59_, How long until Microsoft changes that policy?
21:23 TR News; (NEW): Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Khadas_Edge2_review_with_Android_12.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Khadas_Edge2_review_with_Android_12.gmi
21:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12
21:23 MinceR; the moment they think they can get away with it
21:23 DaemonFC; Then even better, when they do that, what stops them from issuing dbx updates that revoke all versions of shim and grub?
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; keyturn killswitch
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; they have it hibernating on many PCs already
21:24 MinceR; nothing stops them from doing that
21:24 MinceR; that's the whole point
21:24 MinceR; though they'll probably do a false flag operation to "justify" it
21:26 DaemonFC; The entire point of mjg59_'s "shim" is to evade the GPL's anti-DRM provisions.
21:27 DaemonFC; If they tried to "sign" GRUB and then tell you that you couldn't run modified versions of it, they'd be in violation of the GPL.
21:27 DaemonFC; So shim is a GPL evasion tool.
21:28 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Security_Leftovers.gmi
21:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
21:28 TR News; Introducing NVK http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Collabora_Announces_NVK_a_New_Open_Source_Vulkan_Driver.shtml
21:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines Collabora Announces NVK, a New Open-Source Vulkan Driver for NVIDIA Hardware in Mesa
21:30 MinceR; GRUB has "or later", so that lasts until they take over the FSF and release GPLv4
21:32 DaemonFC; "byuu"'s elitism pretty much killed the commercialization opportunities he had with higan and GPL exceptions, which I thought was funny.
21:32 DaemonFC; He thought companies that may want to license his emulator gave a damn if it worked accurately instead of quickly.
21:33 DaemonFC; When is the last time you saw a company delay a product over concerns that it worked "perfectly", or even mostly right?
21:34 mjg59_; DaemonFC: No, Shim exists for multiple reasons
21:35 DaemonFC; Anti-GPL Condom is the main one.
21:35 mjg59_; DaemonFC: (1) To avoid needing to sign every new grub build - Shim is updated rarely
21:35 MinceR; then again, i suspect they won't be distributing GRUB anyway since they love UEFI and they have systemd-boot
21:35 MinceR; (or is it systemd-bootd?)
21:35 mjg59_; DaemonFC: (2) To guarantee that the user has the ability to enroll new keys to allow them to boot whatever grub they want
21:35 MinceR; (or perhaps systemd-dbootd or systemd-dbdoodtd?)
21:36 TR News; Russia Tightening Screws on War Coverage https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-tightening-screws-on-war-coverage-/6771300.html "A violation of the latter carries a 15-year prison sentence."
21:36 mjg59_; DaemonFC: (3) To manage certain aspects of boot security (such as handling SBAT) that are out of scope for grub
21:36 TR Bot; Russia Tightening Screws on War Coverage
21:36 DaemonFC; mjg59_, And if Microsoft uses their remote backdoor in LVFS to revoke the ability to boot that version of GRUB?
21:36 techuser; should we start calling the OS systemd/Linux instead of GNU/Linux eventually?
21:36 DaemonFC; Can you make it boot anyway, considering there's no way to roll the dbx back?
21:36 MinceR; i already call it that
21:36 MinceR; they obviously don't intend GNU to retain a role in their OS
21:36 mjg59_; DaemonFC: LVFS won't install any dbx updates that correspond to the currently installed boot chain (or, at least, it's not meant to - it's certainly possible there are bugs there)
21:37 techuser; will the kernel remain indefinitely though?
21:37 techuser; or they also make it a part of systemd somehow
21:37 DaemonFC; All I saw pop up was that it wanted to install a Microsoft dbx revocation list, so I disabled the LVFS repo.
21:38 DaemonFC; Which leaves me on the v87 that exists in my firmware now.
21:38 DaemonFC; I keep having to put my finger in the hole every time they try some new way of taking over my computer and trying to slip it past me.
21:38 MinceR; that's little more than rebranding
21:38 MinceR; they took it away from Linus already
21:39 MinceR; and there already were attempts to make the kernel depend on systemd
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21:39 DaemonFC; Moving dbus into it?
21:39 MinceR; not just that
21:40 DaemonFC; Yes, there's a lot of really shitty people at Red Hat, including some that now work at Microsoft directly, who want to re-create the Win32k disaster on Linux.
21:40 DaemonFC; Maybe mjg59_ is one of those kinds.
21:41 DaemonFC; Then they can "lock it down" and say adding tons of vulnerabilities and then restricting access to them (you hope), like on Windows, is a "security feature".
21:41 DaemonFC; "Win32k Lockdown"
21:43 DaemonFC; You can also run Edge in Hype-V and hope that walls you off from malware.
21:43 DaemonFC; You can just keep adding layers of crap instead of fixing bugs and saying it's all "security" work.
21:44 TR News; (NEW): System76's COSMIC Desktop Ditched GTK in Favor of Iced http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/System76_s_COSMIC_Desktop_Ditched_GTK_in_Favor_of_Iced.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/System76_s_COSMIC_Desktop_Ditched_GTK_in_Favor_of_Iced.gmi
21:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines System76's COSMIC Desktop Ditched GTK in Favor of Iced
21:45 TR News; (NEW): What Is PureOS? A Look at Purism's OS for Laptops and Phones http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/What_Is_PureOS_A_Look_at_Purism_s_OS_for_Laptops_and_Phones.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/What_Is_PureOS_A_Look_at_Purism_s_OS_for_Laptops_and_Phones.gmi
21:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines What Is PureOS? A Look at Purism's OS for Laptops and Phones
21:45 TR News; (NEW): WordPress 6.1 Beta 3 Now Available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/WordPress_6_1_Beta_3_Now_Available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/WordPress_6_1_Beta_3_Now_Available.gmi
21:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines WordPress 6.1 Beta 3 Now Available
21:45 TR News; (NEW): OpenSSH 9.1 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/OpenSSH_9_1_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/OpenSSH_9_1_released.gmi
21:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines OpenSSH 9.1 released
21:46 DaemonFC; "Windows Subsystem for Android enables any device running Windows 11 to install all of the malware available in the Amazon App Store. If you thought security in the Google Play store was shit, wait until you get a load of Amazon."
21:46 TR News; OMG! Intel DEFECTS: "After looking at some logs we do end up with potentially bogus panel power sequencing delays, which may harm the LCD panel. Greg, I recommend immediate revert of this stuff, and new stable release ASAP. Plus a recommendation that no one using laptops with Intel GPUs run 5.19.12." https://lore.kernel.org/all/YzwooNdMECzuI5+h@intel.com/
21:46 TR Bot; Re: Regression on 5.19.12, display flickering on Framework laptop - Ville Syrjl
21:47 MinceR; 04 224357 < DaemonFC> You can just keep adding layers of crap instead of fixing bugs and saying it's all "security" work.
21:47 MinceR; and it never works
21:47 TR News; "How the hell did Arch let this kernel get to stable without testing it on Intel hardware? It's the first time Arch broke my install with an update and it seems oddly obvious of a bug." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1350270-intel-laptop-users-should-avoid-linux-5-19-12-to-avoid-potentially-damaging-the-display
21:47 TR Bot; Laptop Users Should Avoid Linux 5.19.12 To Avoid Potentially Damaging The Display - Phoronix Forums
21:47 MinceR; but it's "hip" and "cool" because it lets suits tack on buzzwords without having the underlings do much work
21:48 XRevan86; Uh, I'm not rebooting!
21:51 TR News; Spamnil spamming for Microsoft again today. Linux Foundation is a fraud.
21:53 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
21:55 TR News; Fatdog64 813, based on LFS, is out http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/
21:55 TR Bot; Fatdog64 Linux
21:56 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Make Your First Linux App With Flutter http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Make_Your_First_Linux_App_With_Flutter.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/How_to_Make_Your_First_Linux_App_With_Flutter.gmi
21:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Make Your First Linux App With Flutter
21:56 TR News; (NEW): AMD Ryzen 7000 gives Windows users the perfect reason to move to Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/AMD_Ryzen_7000_gives_Windows_users_the_perfect_reason_to_move_t.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/AMD_Ryzen_7000_gives_Windows_users_the_perfect_reason_to_move_t.gmi
21:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines AMD Ryzen 7000 gives Windows users the perfect reason to move to Linux
21:57 MinceR; i see the intHell people don't like testing their code either
21:58 MinceR; just like their idols at MICROS~1
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; I was gonna say the same
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; BUT...
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; they dleete the word "fuck" from the kernel
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; their "hugs" did not fix the defects
22:00 TR News; (NEW): Beware: Linux kernel 5.19.12 could damage your Intel laptop display, literally http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Beware_Linux_kernel_5_19_12_could_damage_your_Intel_laptop_disp.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Beware_Linux_kernel_5_19_12_could_damage_your_Intel_laptop_disp.gmi
22:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Beware: Linux kernel 5.19.12 could damage your Intel laptop display, literally
22:01 TR News; Sean Michael Kerner openwashing posting spam for Mark Zuckerface https://venturebeat.com/ai/meta-seeks-to-accelerate-ai-inference-with-open-source-aitemplate/
22:01 TR Bot; seeks to accelerate AI inference with open-source AITemplate | VentureBeat
22:02 TR News; Burning the planet inside the datacentre for useless stuff and occasional violations of human rights https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/04/different-gpu-horses-for-different-datacenter-courses/
22:02 TR Bot; Different GPU Horses For Different Datacenter Courses
22:03 TR News; "To exploit this vulnerability, a threat actor would need physical or network access to the system and would need to bypass any additional security controls." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-22-277-01
22:03 TR Bot; BD Totalys MultiProcessor | CISA
22:08 *techrights_guest|8 (~51cc3537@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
22:08 techrights_guest|8; Well hello there, this website looks like dogshit
22:09 TR News; Microsoft CISA tries to blame "open source" for merely being used to construct things that exploit holes/back doors in proprietary stuff https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/04/impacket-and-exfiltration-tool-used-steal-sensitive-information http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
22:09 TR Bot; Impacket and Exfiltration Tool Used to Steal Sensitive Information from Defense Industrial Base Organization | CISA
22:09 TR Bot; Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights_guest|8> thanks
22:10 schestowitz[TR]; any specific comments on the contents?
22:10 schestowitz[TR]; or the design?
22:10 techrights_guest|8; less serif fonts
22:11 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO: "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an Active Directory user to execute validated actions without providing a valid password." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-01
22:11 TR Bot; Johnson Controls Metasys ADX Server | CISA
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; you can specify your own fonts
22:12 techrights_guest|8; https://i.imgur.com/h1A5l6h.png Weird border here for some reason that goes through content
22:12 TR News; "Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities could allow an attacker to perform malicious command injection, trick a valid user into downloading malicious software onto their computer. Successful exploitation may also allow an attacker to pose as a legitimate user." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-02
22:12 TR Bot; Hitachi Energy Modular Switchgear Monitoring (MSM) | CISA
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; ah, that is part of the base theme
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; from 17 years ago
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; your browsers renders the fonts a bit oddly
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; what OS is that?
22:15 techrights_guest|8; Last good windows, 7
22:15 MinceR; there's no good windows
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's very old
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; gnu/linux has miles better versions
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; and it's free
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; judging by the fonts, it's not a good version
22:16 techrights_guest|8; it's free if your time is worthless
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; my Debian system makes that look a lot betterr
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; my free time has value
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; that is why I do NOT use Windows
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; and it just runs and runs and runs
22:17 TR News; "The affected product does not properly validate user-supplied data. If a user opens a maliciously formed FNT file, then an attacker could execute arbitrary code within the current process by accessing an uninitialized pointer, leading to an out-of-bounds memory read." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-03
22:17 TR Bot; Horner Automation Cscape | CISA
22:18 TR News; Some of these are specific to Microsoft crap https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/04/cisa-releases-five-industrial-control-systems-advisories
22:18 TR Bot; CISA Releases Five Industrial Control Systems Advisories | CISA
22:18 DaemonFC; I went out and topped off the car's oil because I was bored.
22:19 DaemonFC; It seems to consume about 1/5th of a quart every 1,100 miles or so, which is a lot better than most brand new cars.
22:19 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO: "The affected product is vulnerable to an Out-of-Bounds Write in CX-P.exe, which may allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-277-04
22:19 TR Bot; OMRON CX-Programmer | CISA
22:19 DaemonFC; Many manufacturers say "Adding a quart of oil every 800 to 1,000 miles is perfectly normal and not a sign that there's anything wrong with your engine.".
22:19 DaemonFC; If I was adding a quart every 1,000 miles and it was something I just bought, I'd be fucking pissed.
22:20 techrights_guest|8; Rotary engine has entered the chat
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 DaemonFC; They're not giving 'em away!
22:20 DaemonFC; Even the "American synthetic" is like $6-7 a quart.
22:20 psydroid3; Windows is only free if a comet is heading for earth to wipe out all life
22:21 DaemonFC; The "German synthetic" which is for German cars that throw oil all over the place during their "completely normal operation" is $12-13 a quart.
22:21 DaemonFC; So if you have to add a quart every 1,000 miles, that's an additional $15 a month or so you can add on to the cost of owning the damned thing just because they couldn't bother to make the oil stay inside the engine where it belongs.
22:22 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
22:22 DaemonFC; Oh those fucking German cars are the worst.
22:22 DaemonFC; No quality control whatsoever.
22:22 MinceR; it's hard to keep it inside the alleged engine when it burns a hole in the side of the engine and then sets plastic parts outside the engine on fire.
22:23 DaemonFC; Mom's came off the line missing a part that the engine needed to stay cool or something, and so she had to leave it idling whenever she went in somewhere.
22:23 DaemonFC; Because if you turned it off, it took 2 hours before you could start it again,
22:23 techrights_guest|8; windows has always been free, as in free beer
22:23 techrights_guest|8; which is also free
22:23 DaemonFC; That was a VW.
22:23 DaemonFC; They took it to every mechanic around and nobody could figure it out, including the VW dealer.
22:23 TR News; "Git is one of those tools that I have been using for the past 4-5 years on a daily basis, very very good tool. Below I share some git commands and aliases ...etc, that I've collected over the years." https://ahmadsamir.github.io/posts/13-git.html
22:23 TR Bot; Git
22:23 psydroid3; free as a virus or a trojan
22:25 TR News; New UN telecoms chief urges governments to keep the internet on https://www.politico.eu/article/new-un-telecoms-chief-doreen-bogdan-martin-urge-governments-keep-internet-on/ so American corporations can meddle and interfere with your domestic affairs ;-)
22:25 TR Bot; New UN telecoms chief urges governments to keep the internet on POLITICO
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights_guest|8> what are your PC's specs?
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; we can help you find a decent distro
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; with nice fonts
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; it';s easier to install gnu/linux than it is to install windows
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; fact
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; (moost people never install windows)
22:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm just gonna top off my oil and roll with the computer.
22:26 TR News; (NEW): Most Popular Java IDEs for Linux Developers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Most_Popular_Java_IDE_s_for_Linux_Developers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Most_Popular_Java_IDE_s_for_Linux_Developers.gmi
22:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Most Popular Java IDEs for Linux Developers
22:26 DaemonFC; I've driven 3,206 miles since the last oil change and it's telling me I have 57% of the oil life left.
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; "oil life"
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; "oil life matters"
22:27 DaemonFC; The stealership sticker says 5,000 mile oci, which is probably fine if you're an old lady and just don't know how to do top offs.
22:28 DaemonFC; But if you can squeeze an extra 2,500-3,000 out of it and just make sure it never gets too low...
22:28 TR News; A Virtual Boost in VR Rendering Performance with Synchronous Space Warp https://developer.qualcomm.com/blog/virtual-boost-vr-rendering-performance-synchronous-space-warp
22:28 TR Bot; A Virtual Boost in VR Rendering Performance with Synchronous Space Warp - Qualcomm Developer Network
22:28 DaemonFC; I mean, one top off quart (which I get my Walmart discounts on) of 0w30 is a hell of a lot cheaper than the dealer's $70 oil change.
22:29 DaemonFC; You can easily check the level and top off. You don't have to jack up the car or anything.
22:31 techrights_guest|8; schestowitz[TR] Nice try NSA
22:32 TR News; OpenZFS 2.1.6 released but outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software in the NSA's pocket, so it cannot be trusted, the software patents notwithstanding....
22:33 DaemonFC; The computer says I can drive a total of 7,456 miles if the average driving conditions continue.
22:33 DaemonFC; Which is 2,456 more than the dealer says, which is only 44 miles short of half the dealer recommended OCI.
22:34 DaemonFC; So for every two oil changes you actually NEED, the dealer is trying to slip in a third.
22:34 TR News; openzfs web site has NO news in it; it does, however, have a large "Code of Conduct" section https://openzfs.org/wiki/Main_Page
22:34 TR Bot; OpenZFS
22:35 TR News; (NEW): CISA Spreads FUD About "Open Source" While Microsoft is the Problem http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/microsoft_cisa.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/microsoft_cisa.gmi
22:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines CISA Spreads FUD About "Open Source" While Microsoft is the Problem
22:35 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
22:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
22:35 DaemonFC; At 5,000 miles without top offs, you'd be almost exactly 1 quart low, which is the minimum acceptable oil fill level for this car.
22:35 DaemonFC; With no safety margin.
22:36 DaemonFC; Man, engineers!
22:36 DaemonFC; But the computer is telling you to go 2,456 more miles which is only safe if you're topping off as needed -or- the car is consuming almost no oil, which is improbable.
22:37 DaemonFC; They could have come at the problem from a different angle, like what BMW does.
22:38 DaemonFC; Throw in more oil than you'll need assuming it'll burn some.
22:38 psydroid3; these are the specs of the machine I'm using right now
22:38 psydroid3; with some more powerful laptops doing other things
22:38 DaemonFC; But then that creates an environmental problem because people are still going to those quickie lube places that lead them to believe 3,000 miles or 3 months.
22:38 psydroid3; Client: HexChat 2.16.1 OS: Debian bookworm/sid CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N3060 @ 1.60GHz (480MHz) Memory: Physical: 7.4GiB Total (2.7GiB Free) Swap: 5.0GiB Total (4.4GiB Free) Storage: 224.8GB / 239.7GB (14.8GB Free) VGA: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xx
22:38 psydroid3; x/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register Uptime: 7h 28m 55s
22:39 psydroid3; this laptop can't run any modern version of Windows without looking like a snail while doing so
22:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mom's one of those aging boomers who still does that.
22:39 DaemonFC; I told her she's throwing away her money.
22:39 psydroid3; and with GNU/Linux is surprisingly useable for running several lightweight applications
22:39 psydroid3; it's*
22:39 DaemonFC; I only change my oil about every year or so and I've never had an engine blow up because of that.
22:40 TR News; Updated today: "URL is an Emacs Lisp library for parsing URIs and retrieving the resources to which they refer. (The library is so-named for historical reasons; nowadays, the URI terminology is regarded as the more general one, and URL is technically obsolete despite its widespread vernacular usage.)" https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Url
22:40 TR Bot; Url - Free Software Directory
22:40 DaemonFC; It just doesn't have to be done as often as they want you to believe. They all have some version of "Let's get this guy in here. Oil costs nothing near what we're going to get him for in markup and labor.".
22:41 DaemonFC; I've considered getting some ramps and doing it myself.
22:41 DaemonFC; But then I have to throw the ramps somewhere.
22:41 TR News; Linux Today relays Microsoft lies and FUD against "Open Source" https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/zinc-hackers-leverage-open-source-software/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
22:41 TR Bot; ZINC Hackers Leverage Open-source Software to Lure IT Pros
22:41 DaemonFC; It would make more sense if I had a garage.
22:41 TR Bot; Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
22:42 DaemonFC; Doing your own oil changes isn't hard. Costs you maybe $25-30 in materials, and that's with the good oil in a 5 quart jug.
22:42 DaemonFC; Other things are more of a pain in the ass, like changing out coolant, because it's harder to completely flush out and you have to use all this water, and all the water gets contaminated.
22:43 DaemonFC; I mean, if you're some redneck who throws it in a river....
22:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mom's pastor got a cut that got infected pretty bad.
22:44 DaemonFC; The church went out to volunteer to clean up the river, and he got cut trying to get a washing machine someone threw in it.
22:44 TR News; (NEW): Kubernetes: Introducing Kueue http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Kubernetes_Introducing_Kueue.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Kubernetes_Introducing_Kueue.gmi
22:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kubernetes: Introducing Kueue
22:44 DaemonFC; I mean, who does that? You can call the electric company and they'll give you a $50 check for it. Or hell, set it outside. Scrappers will see it.
22:45 DaemonFC; Someone actually worked to get that washer into a truck so they could toss it in the river.
22:45 TR News; [GIT PULL] EDAC updates for v6.1 - Borislav Petkov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvqtD2dVN9YPI1K@zn.tnic/ Source: SUSE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvqtD2dVN9YPI1K@zn.tnic/
↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzvqtD2dVN9YPI1K@zn.tnic/
22:45 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] EDAC updates for v6.1 - Borislav Petkov
22:46 TR News; [RFC UKL 00/10] Unikernel Linux (UKL) - Ali Raza https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003222133.20948-1-aliraza@bu.edu/ Source: bu.edu | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003222133.20948-1-aliraza@bu.edu/
22:46 TR Bot; [RFC UKL 00/10] Unikernel Linux (UKL) - Ali Raza
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22:52 TR News; (NEW): 5 new improvements in Apache ShardingSphere http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_new_improvements_in_Apache_ShardingSphere.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/5_new_improvements_in_Apache_ShardingSphere.gmi
22:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines 5 new improvements in Apache ShardingSphere
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22:54 TR News; Learn the OSI model in 5 minutes | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/osi-model-network-communications Source: Open Source dot com | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/osi-model-network-communications
22:54 TR Bot; the OSI model in 5 minutes | Opensource.com
22:55 TR News; Red Hat talking about a yuppie Utopia while working for IBM, which implemented genocide for profit https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/designing-inclusion-representational-vs-aspirational-personas
22:55 TR Bot; Designing for inclusion: Representational vs. aspirational personas
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22:56 TR News; Red Hat is promoting Microsoft proprietary software and mass surveillance, in effect helping those who attack GNU/Linux and the GPL https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-deploy-azure-red-hat-openshift
22:56 TR Bot; How to deploy Azure Red Hat OpenShift
22:57 TR News; When a company is reduced to marketing and not substance https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/its-customer-experience-cx-day-how-red-hat-listening-and-learning-you
22:57 TR Bot; Its Customer Experience (CX) Day! How Red Hat is listening and learning from you
22:58 TR News; Vendor lockin spun as "Enable Sysadmin" https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/top-sysadmin-articles-september-2022 Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/top-sysadmin-articles-september-2022
22:58 TR Bot; Automating network testing, getting started with Ansible, and other sysadmin tips | Enable Sysadmin
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22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.96
23:02 TR News; Red Hat's site became an inaccessible proprietary JS mess. To make matters worse, they BLOCK many user agents, including wget it seems... Red Hat is evil.
23:05 TR News; - The era of Micro PCs - will ARM based SoCs finally (Apples aside) be fast enough for Desktop Workstation and Server workloads? | dwaves.de https://dwaves.de/2022/10/04/the-era-of-micro-pcs-will-arm-based-socs-finally-apples-aside-be-fast-enough-for-desktop-workstation-and-server-workloads/ Source: dwaves.de
23:05 TR Bot; The era of Micro PCs will ARM based SoCs finally (Apples aside) be fast enough for Desktop Workstation and Server workloads? | dwaves.de
23:08 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Red_Hat_Leeftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Red_Hat_Leeftovers.gmi
23:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers
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23:14 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
23:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
23:15 TR News; Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Khadas_Edge2_review_with_Android_12.shtml
23:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines Khadas Edge2 review with Android 12 (UPDATED)
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23:17 DaemonFC; My left ctrl key is working intermittently.
23:18 DaemonFC; Oh well, at least it was a key that I have two of.
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23:19 TR News; [GIT PULL] Thermal control updates for v6.1-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAJZ5v0iD8M=qYc32EY96vYSmjTaEz=M357PVvATSQvryrzh0Gw@mail.gmail.com/
23:19 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Thermal control updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki
23:20 TR News; (NEW): Getting Started With Portainer: A GUI Manager for Docker on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Getting_Started_With_Portainer_A_GUI_Manager_for_Docker_on_Linu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Getting_Started_With_Portainer_A_GUI_Manager_for_Docker_on_Linu.gmi
23:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Getting Started With Portainer: A GUI Manager for Docker on Linux
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:21 TR News; Debian Linux accepts proprietary firmware in major policy change http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Debian_Results_for_non_free_firmware.shtml
23:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian: Results for non-free firmware (UPDATED)
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23:25 DaemonFC; I turned it off and smacked all the shit out of the keyboard and used some compressed air on the vents to blow as much dust as would come out without taking the laptop apart.
23:25 TR News; Judging by the rise of COVID-19 in the UK, this will be the third unhappy xmas in a row
23:26 DaemonFC; '
23:26 DaemonFC; Oops
23:26 DaemonFC; <techrights-news> Judging by the rise of COVID-19 in the UK, this will be the third unhappy xmas in a row
23:26 DaemonFC; We usually have a Jewish Christmas.
23:26 DaemonFC; The only thing open is the Chinese place.
23:26 DaemonFC; But hey, they're awesome. Poor people though. Have to deal with Waukegan and think it's America.
23:27 DaemonFC; Shit ass ghetto Chicago spillover.
23:27 DaemonFC; Only slightly watered down by proximity to Wisconsin.
23:28 psydruid; Is this one of mjg's friends promoting (or vomiting) Vista propaganda?
23:28 TR News; New example of Amazon turning the WWW into a spamfarm https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/kindle-paperwhite-signature-edition/
23:28 TR Bot; Save $55 on a Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition - Make Tech Easier
23:30 psydruid; Red Hat is a Trojan horse that enables its masters to infiltrate and impose IBM/Microsoft malware
23:33 starstreak; i love centos stream 9
23:33 TR News; iTWire - European Parliament approves move for USB-C as single charging port https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/european-parliament-approves-move-for-usb-c-as-single-charging-port.html Source: IT Wire/Sam Varghese | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/technology-regulation/european-parliament-approves-move-for-usb-c-as-single-charging-port.html
23:33 TR Bot; - European Parliament approves move for USB-C as single charging port
23:34 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through (and Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Beta Too) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Ubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through_and_Ubuntu_MATE_22_10_Beta_Too.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Ubuntu_22_10_Beta_Run_Through_and_Ubuntu_MATE_22_10_Beta_Too.gmi
23:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.10 Beta Run Through (and Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Beta Too)
23:34 TR News; (NEW): Copyright Licenses Are Key When Including Software in Standards http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Copyright_Licenses_Are_Key_When_Including_Software_in_Standards.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Copyright_Licenses_Are_Key_When_Including_Software_in_Standards.gmi
23:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Copyright Licenses Are Key When Including Software in Standards
23:34 psydruid; I love NSA backdoor OS 9
23:37 TR News; Flux is a kinetic art installation brought to life with Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/flux-is-a-kinetic-art-installation-brought-to-life-with-arduino/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/flux-is-a-kinetic-art-installation-brought-to-life-with-arduino/
23:37 TR Bot; Flux is a kinetic art installation brought to life with Arduino | Arduino Blog
23:38 TR News; Uroflow measures urine stream to monitor medical treatments | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/uroflow-measures-urine-stream-to-monitor-medical-treatments/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/uroflow-measures-urine-stream-to-monitor-medical-treatments/
23:38 TR Bot; Uroflow measures urine stream to monitor medical treatments | Arduino Blog
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23:38 TR News; Build a smart home entertainment system | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/build-a-smart-home-entertainment-system/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/04/build-a-smart-home-entertainment-system/
23:38 TR Bot; Build a smart home entertainment system | Arduino Blog
23:42 TR News; Dooming Linux with Microsoft infection https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=8aebac82933ff1a7c8eede18cab11e1115e2062b see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/
23:42 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
23:42 TR Bot; The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights
23:43 TR News; (NEW): Arduino Projects: Entertainment, Art, and Medical http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Arduino_Projects_Entertainment_Art_and_Medical.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/04/Arduino_Projects_Entertainment_Art_and_Medical.gmi
23:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Arduino Projects: Entertainment, Art, and Medical
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23:49 schestowitz[TR]; Quit: Vista 7 crashed
23:51 DaemonFC; Now my battery is acting funny.
23:51 DaemonFC; It keeps going from charged to on battery until I unplug the power cord and plug it in.
23:51 DaemonFC; Might be a bad charger.
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; this "luxiry" cars need s constant babysitting
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; reliability is not the "luxury" in it
23:54 DaemonFC; This laptop is flaking out.
23:54 DaemonFC; What is this? Everything I own breaks day?
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23:59 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like adapter
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: the less you own, the less can break
23:59 schestowitz[TR]; that's why many old people start giving away things
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