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06:10 schestowitz-TR; "Josh and Kurt talk about a blog post that explains there isnt really an open source software supply chain. The whole idea of open source being one thing is incorrect, open source is really a lot of little things put together. A lot of companies and organizations get this wrong." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/02/episode-343-stop-trying-to-fix-the-open-source-software-supply-chain/
06:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 343 Stop trying to fix the open source software supply chain Open Source Security
06:10 schestowitz-TR; they seem to be saying more or less the same as what I said about it
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08:12 Techrights-sec; They seem to failing to see, or perhaps denying, the distributed, decentralized
08:12 Techrights-sec; nature of FOSS. There's a lot of emergent behavior as it is sometimes called.
08:12 Techrights-sec; from the FOSS side. There are also powerful or at least influential opponents
08:12 Techrights-sec; who work for the very idea of decentralization to disappear. So of course
08:12 Techrights-sec; they will not ever acknowledge it.
08:13 schestowitz-TR; tes, this is why we fight back, if not on practical grounds then at least correcting the narrative
08:13 schestowitz-TR; Jimmy and the Sunshine boys get paid to distort the narrative
08:13 schestowitz-TR; to make FS look bad
08:13 schestowitz-TR; and pass control to Pentagon contractors
08:13 schestowitz-TR; that's how it is
08:13 schestowitz-TR; calling spade a "spade
08:13 Techrights-sec;
08:13 Techrights-sec; ack
08:14 schestowitz-TR; Snyky Jimmy
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08:27 Techrights-sec; :(
08:27 Techrights-sec; Or Blackduck
08:28 schestowitz-TR; DenyDuck got bought
08:28 schestowitz-TR; and tbh I think they don't do well
08:28 schestowitz-TR; the past 2 years they're barely visible
08:28 schestowitz-TR; and unlike Synk they don't have much funded, I think
08:28 schestowitz-TR; OSI turned them away, but not LF
08:28 schestowitz-TR; irinically OSI then took money from Microsoft itself
08:41 Techrights-sec; Wasn't there a third FUD machine too? Snyk, Blackduck, ____
08:41 Techrights-sec; It's helpful that Blackduck is doing poorly, they had no value added
08:41 Techrights-sec; and peddled only FUD. Eventually that became univerally known and their
08:41 Techrights-sec; credibility vanished even among those that wanted to rent some FUD
08:41 Techrights-sec; https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/02/fifteen-year-old-black-duck-software-gets-its-exit-selling-to-synopsys-for-565-million/
08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fifteen-year-old Black Duck Software gets its exit, selling to Synopsys for $565 million TechCrunch
08:42 schestowitz-TR; WhiteSOurce
08:42 schestowitz-TR; didn't even heard of them in years
08:42 schestowitz-TR; maybe defunct
08:42 schestowitz-TR; OpenLogic was gone for years, then mentioned a little lately, I think OSI works with them
08:42 schestowitz-TR; closing a Microsoft circle (jerks)
08:42 schestowitz-TR; OpenLogic is where Microsoft's Stormy Peters came from too (after HP, IIRC)
08:42 schestowitz-TR; working for a Microsofter
08:42 schestowitz-TR; Bruce Perens called them out on it
08:42 schestowitz-TR; DenyDuck wrote some numbers on papers to "lookl good"
08:42 schestowitz-TR; there was no truck of 'Benjamins'
08:42 schestowitz-TR; a lot of this sector is sheer fraud, like Sheela Microsoft's Bakkt
08:46 Techrights-sec; Yes, that is the whole point, to peddle fraud. Managers with unfounded opininons contact them wishing to buy some backing supporting their bad decisions
08:46 Techrights-sec; based on unfounded opinions (instead of empirical facts). That buys them
08:46 Techrights-sec; time to either blame someone or something else for their bad decisions or
08:46 Techrights-sec; time to find a new job so that the collapse in someone else's responsibility.
08:48 schestowitz-TR; zero-sum where "I steal your money" with 'clever' ploy
08:48 schestowitz-TR; instead of creating anything of real value
08:48 schestowitz-TR; same in her prior employers
08:48 schestowitz-TR; prpopaganda mills and resellers of Microsoft
08:48 schestowitz-TR; snyk = DenyDuck 1.1
08:48 schestowitz-TR; SFC= OSI 1.1
08:48 schestowitz-TR; LF = stuart cohen (OSDL) reborn, first with a mask for a few years (Murdock as CTO), until they get the straitjacket on LT and his circle
08:48 Techrights-sec; ck
08:50 schestowitz-TR; ck lewis ;-)
08:50 schestowitz-TR; after workout I'll record 2 epo videos
08:50 schestowitz-TR; I ended up covering GPL plagiarism in a post, not a video
08:50 schestowitz-TR; rianne goes to hand over to final docs/papers to the solicitors at noon
08:50 schestowitz-TR; i don't see how they can turn down the application
08:50 schestowitz-TR; truss will have caused brain drain by now
08:50 schestowitz-TR; not that any other country thrives atm
08:50 Techrights-sec; excellent
08:52 Techrights-sec; truss has already added to the damage caused by bojotheclown
08:56 schestowitz-TR; yes, I could go on and on about it
08:56 schestowitz-TR; but refrained in recent years as I don't wish to get in trouble with the local authss
08:56 schestowitz-TR; gchq is about 700 meters from us in heron house
08:56 schestowitz-TR; and rianne has this application
08:56 schestowitz-TR; don't want them to identify the spouse on some "list"
08:56 schestowitz-TR; so I focus on stuff like EPO instead
08:56 schestowitz-TR; I keep explaining to my dad,
08:56 schestowitz-TR; to us the current turmoil is not that big a deal
08:56 schestowitz-TR; because we live in a bubble of choice
08:57 schestowitz-TR; working from home, buying discounts like 80% of the time
08:57 schestowitz-TR; inc. this laptop I'm using right now
08:57 schestowitz-TR; you can now get them even cheaper, it's amazing!
08:57 schestowitz-TR; not that I need another laptop, rianne and I use 7 machines, not counting the pi that's in the living roomn acting mostly
08:57 schestowitz-TR; as server, http proxy, gemini, file storage, backup (5am each morning), and few other things
08:57 schestowitz-TR; I turned off the LEDs a few months ago to save energy until it's positioned somewhere more visible
08:57 schestowitz-TR; it's still running ipfs but throttled
08:58 Techrights-sec; ack
08:58 Techrights-sec; Just avoid laptops with Nvidia=
09:00 schestowitz-TR; in RELATIVE terms, Manchester is doing OK because of foreign investment, inc. football and estate
09:00 schestowitz-TR; we have an influx of residents
09:00 schestowitz-TR; but that won't last forever
09:00 schestowitz-TR; this latest laptop is neat, good bang for the buck
09:00 schestowitz-TR; athlon+radeon so can do video acceleration too
09:00 schestowitz-TR; it mostly does kate, lagrange, many terminals, and xchat
09:00 schestowitz-TR; oh, obs studio sometimes, but it can cope
09:00 schestowitz-TR; the footprint (ram) of the above is small
09:00 schestowitz-TR; thunderbird is like 5 times more than all the above combined
09:01 Techrights-sec; ack
09:05 schestowitz-TR; checking...
09:05 schestowitz-TR; I don't know the answer.
09:05 schestowitz-TR; regarding the buttoms, I reckon I'll fit them onto that or another Pi
09:05 schestowitz-TR; I don't have a soldering gun and borrowing is harder when I try to avoid people
09:05 schestowitz-TR; I limit myself to one "outsider" if it's very important like getting a reference for the application
09:05 schestowitz-TR; a risk worth taking
09:05 schestowitz-TR; (there was something else, not important, that I wanted to utter but forgot. will pass, move on..)
09:06 Techrights-sec; If TR is redon based on what we've learned from migrating TM, it should
09:06 Techrights-sec; probably use full time stamps internally.
09:12 schestowitz-TR; i get distracted by irc a lot
09:12 schestowitz-TR; it never truly stopds
09:12 schestowitz-TR; and not predictable either
09:12 schestowitz-TR; but s/n ratio is OK
09:12 schestowitz-TR; (dang, still trying to recall the not-so-important thign I forgot, despite knowing it was rubbish)
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10:27 Techrights-sec; excellent
10:44 schestowitz-TR; abck from workout, will record soon
10:44 schestowitz-TR; irc ver on-optic
10:44 schestowitz-TR; politics are in #techpol
10:44 schestowitz-TR; it's good that I finsihed meeting those whom I needed to meet
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13:15 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/
13:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.it
13:16 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/
13:16 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1576881797618466821#m
13:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "Linux Foundation makes 200.000.000USD/year, not bad for a charity http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/pseudo-charitable-front-group/"|nitter.it
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16:23 schestowitz-TR; "FOSSlife Team" = Microsoft liars. Watch them helping Microsoft... basically protecting criminals by blaming "Open Source" https://www.fosslife.org/hackers-target-it-staff-fake-job-offers-and-open-source-software see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
16:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Hackers Use Fake Job Offers and Open Source Software to Target IT Staff
16:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
16:23 schestowitz-TR; OTA
16:24 schestowitz-TR; "Club LF"
16:24 schestowitz-TR; (LPI)
16:24 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft pays, we parrot
16:24 schestowitz-TR; the L in LPI stands for "Linux"
16:25 Techrights-sec; ack
16:25 Techrights-sec; that's how it usually works, once there are sellouts on staff or in decision
16:25 Techrights-sec; making positions. worst of all is the situation where there are actual
16:25 Techrights-sec; microsofters inside the organization.
16:26 schestowitz-TR; just checked, it links to a Microsoft operative inside ZDNet
16:26 schestowitz-TR; Liam Tung
16:26 schestowitz-TR; ZDNet is a Microsoft/LF hostile force
16:26 schestowitz-TR; I'm told lwn is too, but it's nowhere as bad as this
16:28 Techrights-sec; LWN was important, like ZDNet too though well over a decade ago
16:30 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Wow, the Web site of Spamnil is about as ignored as his videos. "13 views"... what's the point even running the thing?
16:35 schestowitz-TR; is it wolrth reviving the free software credibility index?
16:35 schestowitz-TR; btw, rianne submitted all the papers today
17:09 schestowitz-TR; I was just reading some recipes
17:09 schestowitz-TR; no JS
17:09 schestowitz-TR; (gemini)
17:10 Techrights-sec; :)
17:12 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> 1990s WWW: we send you description of a page. 2000s: we send you a page linked to other pages and light code to enhance appearance. 2010s: you need some big programs for easier navigation in site. 2020s: you cannot enter our site at all until you download and run our proprietary JS bundles.
17:18 Techrights-sec; :)
17:18 Techrights-sec; 2020s we send an unauthenticated program to run amok on your system's resources
17:19 schestowitz-TR; it is an improvement over sending you some .EXE file to run on WIndows
17:19 schestowitz-TR; but a big step back considering what COULD be accomplished with Web standards
17:21 schestowitz-TR; Chrome has already becme an _"OS"_. See what ryan wrote about it this morning.
17:21 schestowitz-TR; and what mozilla means to Gulag.
17:22 Techrights-sec; Chrome (Chromium) as well as FF are no longer browsers but the crappiest,
17:22 Techrights-sec; leakiest, and most insecure and inefficient form of VM
17:22 Techrights-sec; FFS skip the browser and just have people fetch a docker or qemu image >:(
17:22 Techrights-sec; That's the logical next step.
17:24 schestowitz-TR; they use terms like sandbox and container
17:24 schestowitz-TR; can you imagine using such a contruct to read recipes that I send to rianne if I like them?
17:24 schestowitz-TR; maybe an ol' grandma's recipe book too should be a "VM"
17:24 schestowitz-TR; with userspace and doas?
17:24 schestowitz-TR; doas over
17:24 schestowitz-TR; *doas oven
17:25 schestowitz-TR; is that compatgible with screen readers? if not, you can make a complaint
17:28 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of activescript/trash/swf files as 'sites'
17:28 schestowitz-TR; that was 1990s as well
17:28 schestowitz-TR; the web has bad ideas
17:28 schestowitz-TR; sometimes they perish after a while
17:28 schestowitz-TR; but this time around it's like activex except it penetrates mobile too
17:28 schestowitz-TR; this could doom the web
17:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe mobile "apps" are built with web/js frameworks
17:28 schestowitz-TR; this is why a "modern" phone needs so many CPUs cores and has a battery like or old portable televisions
17:28 schestowitz-TR; *life
17:29 Techrights-sec; Those caused almost as much damage, the difference being was that ActiveX was
17:29 Techrights-sec; only on optional sites; Now days the javascripts are the only gatekeepers to
17:29 Techrights-sec; essential services.
17:29 schestowitz-TR; in south korea activex penetrated banks and iirc gov. sites
17:30 Techrights-sec; 11 cores? Ok, not 11 but way too many : https://cellularnews.com/mobile-phone/best-mobile-processors-top-10-high-performing-smartphones/
17:30 Techrights-sec; No wonder there is an electricity crisis with all those billions of phones
17:30 Techrights-sec; (portable supercomputers) needing recharging many times a day.
17:30 Techrights-sec; Then to add further injury, the wall warts are usually left plugged in when
17:30 Techrights-sec; not charging by the dickheads using the "phones"
17:30 Techrights-sec; Yes, South Korea has borderline terminal stage microsoftianism
17:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cellularnews.com | Best Mobile Processors: Top 10 High Performing Smartphones
17:34 schestowitz-TR; based on stattcounter korea is slow to dopt gnu/linux
17:34 schestowitz-TR; i last chedked today, hoping to spot a change
17:34 schestowitz-TR; the country has a cultural problem
17:34 schestowitz-TR; and so concepts like software freedom fall on deaf ears
17:34 schestowitz-TR; an american tech who worked with koreans explained this to me over a decade ago
17:34 schestowitz-TR; after he had wrapped his head around thr way they think
17:34 schestowitz-TR; seoul mikght be ok for holiday, but that's it
17:34 schestowitz-TR; trhey immerse their life in the dumbest tech
17:34 schestowitz-TR; similar to japanese, but there are differences
17:34 schestowitz-TR; like robotics vs tech inside your toilets
17:35 schestowitz-TR; or kpop vs jpop
17:35 schestowitz-TR; they are not the same
17:35 schestowitz-TR; but rather depressing vision of life and existence and being
17:35 schestowitz-TR; a swede neighbour once told me they're know to be wortking strityluy 5 to 9 but not beyond
17:35 schestowitz-TR; then there't he ubi thing
17:35 schestowitz-TR; i think germans are like this too
17:35 schestowitz-TR; brits just go to the pub with colleagues, but stay extra hours sometimes
17:37 Techrights-sec; The country does not exist independently. It is a vassal state of M$
17:37 Techrights-sec; It's been like that since the 1990s
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17:44 Techrights-sec; otr: holy shit is it hard to find mention of her book online
17:44 schestowitz-TR; are you using baskersoft fartfox?
17:44 schestowitz-TR; *bakersoft?
17:50 schestowitz-TR; going to post daily links, then take a break (rest)
17:50 schestowitz-TR; good news: not so much microsoft spam/googlebombs so far this week
17:50 schestowitz-TR; great news: irc s/n ratio was OK today and rianne got a lot done
17:50 schestowitz-TR; annoying: seeing some new epo trash, but my expectations from reforms are low anyway
17:50 schestowitz-TR; side note: earlier today i wasnted to tell rianner about the "immune-resistant" variant and then forgot to
17:50 schestowitz-TR; when she came back home I suddenly remembered
17:50 schestowitz-TR; so mystery solved
17:50 schestowitz-TR; we like such news because it reaffirms our choices
17:50 schestowitz-TR; though it's cruel re eollctive interest
17:50 Techrights-sec; ... for some definitions of OK :/
17:50 Techrights-sec; ack
17:51 schestowitz-TR; any improvement in S/N (IRC) is good news
17:51 schestowitz-TR; techpol is active
17:53 schestowitz-TR; rant: icewm is on github
17:53 schestowitz-TR; maybe predating microsoft, but still
17:53 schestowitz-TR; phoronix links a LOT to github
17:53 schestowitz-TR; even when it's just a mirror
17:53 schestowitz-TR; or an offical independent site has the same news or better
17:53 Techrights-sec; many remain there on GitHub for a variety of invalid reasons
17:53 schestowitz-TR; lwn quality did not worsen, it was always like that
17:53 schestowitz-TR; phoronix, otho, did worsen
17:53 schestowitz-TR; and you can smell the "businessman" from a mile (he prefers the term "enterprenuer")
17:54 schestowitz-TR; i hope microsoft loses a LOT of money there
17:54 schestowitz-TR; the other day a blogger you follow shilled GitHub Actions
17:54 schestowitz-TR; i didn't link to that
17:54 schestowitz-TR; he praised it
17:54 schestowitz-TR; but they lose money on it
17:54 schestowitz-TR; they entice peopple with workfload 'freebies'
17:54 schestowitz-TR; it's not free
17:54 schestowitz-TR; it's manipulating of the market
17:54 schestowitz-TR; *tion
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18:01 Techrights-sec; bill has shown time and again that he is willing to lose money in an area
18:01 Techrights-sec; indefinitely just to ensure that no one else makes money there either
18:01 Techrights-sec; Then related to that you have the long list of economically unviable purchases
18:01 Techrights-sec; make, appartently, only to prevent GNU/Linux and other FOSS systems from
18:01 Techrights-sec; establishing a foothold in *any* visible market. Mojang was one example,
18:01 Techrights-sec; there was starting to be a generation of kids that were finding out how
18:01 Techrights-sec; much better any of the GNU/Linux distros were and induced absolute panic
18:01 Techrights-sec; in Redmond by actually beginning how to learn to use said distros.
18:01 Techrights-sec; The kids did not care about freedom, yet, but would have been exposed eventually
18:01 Techrights-sec; What they were interested in was the better performance and improved ease of
18:02 Techrights-sec; use of Minecraft on Linux over Minecraft on windoze
18:03 Techrights-sec; https://www.engadget.com/2015-03-04-minecraft-notch-mojang-microsoft-purchase.html
18:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft bought 'Minecraft' after a single tweet by its creator | Engadget
18:04 schestowitz-TR; it used to be OK until FF started experiumenting with url abbreviation
18:05 schestowitz-TR; and gulag started rewriting urls using JS
18:05 schestowitz-TR; for tracking purposes
18:05 schestowitz-TR; anyway, lagrange also sucks at copy/paste support
18:05 Techrights-sec; Yes they both also hide the real URL
18:05 schestowitz-TR; fwiw
18:06 schestowitz-TR; the status bar does not help and FF does not intercept and undo this behaviour
18:06 schestowitz-TR; it's like mozilla is funded by gulag or something.......
18:06 Techrights-sec; :/
18:43 schestowitz-TR; rest
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22:26 Techrights-sec; ack
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