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00:08 psydruid; embalmed human thighs ready for consumption by a cannibalistic developer advocate
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; no, I am referring to the video here vvv
00:09 TR News; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/
00:09 TR Bot; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; imagine ther reaction
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; if RMS did this
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; RMS stares at people
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; because of a condition
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe the cancel mob wants to electrocute him for it
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile, balmer molests men
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; and you can see the men's arms
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; they're like, leaving me alone creep
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; but he's their boss
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; so they must be careful
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ does not mind
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; he's preying on thw weak
00:10 psydruid; "consumption" as in squeezing them
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; the cance mob set up no petiotion
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; to cance;l Ballmer
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; he stil runs the team
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; and mollests men there
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; maybe Connie does not satisfy him
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; so he goes for young men
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; who he controls in ther workplace
00:11 psydruid; "cannibalistic" as in being a little bit too touchy-feely in an uncomfortable way
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; no github petitionm about it from elana Hamasman, MinceR, Bully, and McGovern
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; oops
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; not mincer
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; wrong autocomplete
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; spyware is good
00:12 psydruid; MinceR and Bully the Vampire Enabler
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; gpl violations OK
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft is trust
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; security is back doors
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; join us know and share the entryism
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; in EFF, FSF, and more
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; *join us now
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; Vampire Slayer
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; Sarah Michelle Gellar
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; the troll's partner was born Sarah Michelle
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; and for decades he was saying "transphobic shit"
00:14 MinceR; lol
00:14 MinceR; 03 010846 < psydruid> embalmed human thighs ready for consumption by a cannibalistic developer advocate
00:14 MinceR; wouldn't those be toxic?
00:14 MinceR; due to the embalming fluid(s)
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; "we,, he's dead"
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; Steve/: "let's EMBALM him"
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; you could mash up
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; death og Bill Gatesd Sr.
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; and then his son saying
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; "well,m he's dead"
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; with the cold-faced banality
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; "He [Bill Gates] is divisive. He is manipulative. He is a user. He has taken much from me and the industry."
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; Gary Kildall
00:16 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/dM0t8LE.jpeg
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00:17 psydruid; the toxicity is part of the grand plan to kill free software by taking out its developers
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: that's a strange-looking dog
00:17 psydruid; just squeeze them until there is no one left
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; yeha
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; but there was a reaction to this
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; and now we extinguish the monopoly tradually
00:18 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: it's not. observe the tag.
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; but bailout biden and cheeto nazi keep bailing out the criminals
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; but giving them "defence" money
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; to "save" the S&P '500'
00:18 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-exec-tony-blevins-departs-following-tiktok-video-2022-9
00:18 TR Bot; Apple Exec Tony Blevins Departs After Crass Joke in TikTok Video
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; which is like 20% GAFAM
00:18 DaemonFC; "An Apple executive is leaving the company after being filmed joking about fondling 'big-breasted women' in a viral TikTok video"
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; Apple will collapse soon
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; the sales are collapsing
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; they craft new BS stories or excuses
00:19 DaemonFC; Matthew "I made fun of trannies but that was like 20 years ago and now I attack people for it" Garrett should chime in.
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they need to pretend they're otp a company of pervert
00:19 DaemonFC; mjg59_: What do you think of yet another BIGBOOBIES scandal at a major tech company?
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; like Steve thighthigh
00:20 DaemonFC; Did you make BIGBOOBIES jokes 20 years ago?
00:20 psydruid; govermind criminals siding with corporate criminals against citizens
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 psydruid; who would have though that was even possible
00:20 psydruid; thought*
00:20 psydruid; /s
00:20 psydruid; government*
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: give him a break, he ws a kid at the time
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; 25+ year old with phd
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; he was just a child
00:22 psydruid; "More fun or less fun for trannies?"
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; manchild
00:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is having tranny problems.
00:22 DaemonFC; Must have bought a Chevy.
00:23 TR News; very good news for Linux http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/microsoft-windows-new-low/
00:23 TR Bot; Windows Majority in Asia Down to Just Three Countries, All-time Low for Windows Worldwide This Month | Techrights
00:23 TR News; Who profits from "Linux"? PEOPLE WHO DO NOT EVEN USE IT!! http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/pseudo-charitable-front-group/
00:23 TR Bot; Linux Foundation, While Hoarding Over $200,000,000 Per Year, Calls Itself Non-Profit | Techrights
00:24 DaemonFC; They can really get their printing costs under control with the owner's manuals these days.
00:24 DaemonFC; 35,000 miles - First Service - Replace entire $60,000 car.
00:25 TR News; Zemlin isn't selling Linux. He's SELLING OUT Linux. Like handing it over to LINUX FOES in exchange for money... for them to give it a butcher's treatment (e.g. VMware and Microsoft GPL violations).
00:25 TR News; Slippery Singapore gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-10-03_Slippery_Singapore.gmi
00:26 DaemonFC; Remember when owner's manuals assumed you might keep the car for 250,000 miles or so and that's where the recommended service interval stopped?
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; car become less appealing
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; they will not be sold in quantity
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; so quality too will sink
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; no mass production like decades ago
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; and prices soar
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; and reliability be so crap that few will actually WISH to buy them
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; from "too many moving parts"
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; to "too many computers"
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot fix a computer by just "moving" it
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; you need to replace whole boasrs
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; made in another country
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; no wrentch but invoice and transmission
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; wretch
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; imagine this going on for 20-30 years
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; you talk about something like installing in you car a pre-pentium PC
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; in 2022
00:30 TR News; The current policy isnt working. People are ill and they get poor (theres also Long COVID-19, which few wish to speak about). https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/02/208000-british-death/
00:30 TR Bot; Blog Archive Almost 3 Years After Breakout, 208,000 British Deaths Linked to COVID-19
00:31 TR News; The decline of Microsoft Windows continues; sooner or later Android (Linux inside) will be dominant in almost every country in terms of its market share or number of users http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/microsoft-windows-new-low/
00:31 TR Bot; Windows Majority in Asia Down to Just Three Countries, All-time Low for Windows Worldwide This Month | Techrights
00:31 TR News; The good news is that GNU/Linux continues to expand (widespread usage); the bad news is, it has come under a sheer magnitude of attacks and the media barely bothers to mention the obvious http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/
00:31 TR Bot; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights
00:34 TR News; GNU/Linux and the GPL in Particular Are Under Attack Because They Spread Fast (Like a Cancer) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/02/gnu-and-gpl-spread-fast/
00:37 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> imagine this going on for 20-30 years <- i can imagine it going on for 11
00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; 20 if you count the halloween documents
00:38 highest_cubist_thrills; are we talking about the newfsf or the old open sleaze
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's muteFSF
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's there
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; but does not say much
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; vry passive tbh
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00:39 schestowitz[TR]; rms stares at people = ewww. creep!
00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a software update
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; ballmer molests men, with his bare hands = lol, those rich people...
00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmer molests men, with his bare hands = lol, those rich people... <- im not crazy, jack
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; "don't wannt be a monkey wrench"=balmmer
00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; "POOR PEOPLE are crazy"
00:40 highest_cubist_thrills; "im ECCENTRIC!"
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Book Review: "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime" by Elizabeth Hinton https://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2022/09/book-review-from-war-on-poverty-to-war.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2022/09/book-review-from-war-on-poverty-to-war.html
00:41 TR Bot; Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Book Review: "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime" by Elizabeth Hinton
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; being poor is a crime
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; rich=campaign contriobution
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; otherwise, "shoplifter"
00:41 highest_cubist_thrills; can ballmer rub peoples thighs at lieplanet?
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; yes
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; and if they throw eggs they get arrested
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; but he can grab their eggs
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; and bribe hungarian officers
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; whose oficer were raided by authorities btw
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; *offices
00:42 highest_cubist_thrills; whose oficer were raided by authorities btw <- which distro is that
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; "tough on crime" became "tough on poor people"
00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; probably a spin of microsoft linucks
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; those who use the term are cops
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; they don't deal with white-dollar crimes
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; *collar
00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; "tough on crime" became "tough on poor people" <- pretty much always like this
00:43 highest_cubist_thrills; now moreso, but stil
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; more tax breaks on the rich
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; lax on the rich
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; legialising tax crimes
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; tough on tax :-)
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; make it lax
00:45 highest_cubist_thrills; thighs need wax?
00:45 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmers back!
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; who said sit down!!??
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; he left them alone after they used their arms to get him off their thigh area
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; befroe he's too much in upper inner
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; "egg attack"
00:47 highest_cubist_thrills; they made a three point goal-- it was a sweet surprise
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.informationweek.com/operating-systems/microsoft-s-ballmer-escapes-egg-attack
00:47 highest_cubist_thrills; ballmer is always bold-- theyve got bette davis thighs!
00:47 TR Bot; Microsoft's Ballmer Escapes Egg Attack
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; "Escapes"
00:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The good news is that my ABS hasn't randomly malfunctioned.
00:48 DaemonFC; So it was the ABS module and not something much more serious than that.
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/2790350/Microsofts-Steve-Ballmer-dodges-egg-attack.html
00:48 TR Bot; Microsoft's Steve Ballmer dodges egg attack
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.stuff.co.nz/archived-stuff-sections/games-old-mirror/473827/Now-anyone-can-throw-eggs-at-Microsoft-chief
00:48 TR Bot; anyone can throw eggs at Microsoft chief | Stuff.co.nz
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; site offline http://www.egg-attack.com/
00:48 TR Bot; NameBright - Coming Soon
00:49 highest_cubist_thrills; eggggsellent
00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; site offline http://www.egg-attack.com/ <- they could modify the kill bill game
00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; egg ballmer
00:52 highest_cubist_thrills; someone made a version with lennart
00:53 DaemonFC; Today was "chemicals day" at the store. They're pushing big rebates hard to keep branded consumables going.
00:55 DaemonFC; 09/29/2022 - 58,203 mi.
00:55 DaemonFC; Vehicle serviced Brake system bled ABS module replaced
00:56 DaemonFC; Those GM ABS modules were infamous for going bad. My mechanic says age usually kills them before mileage does. He said expect them to go out every 10 years or so.
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02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-021022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-021022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-021022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-021022.txt
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02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-02.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-02.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:49 DaemonFC; Okay, there's an upcoming build of SeaMonkey now that fixes the NoScript crashing I think.
02:49 DaemonFC; I'll have to test this and see what happens.
02:53 DaemonFC; https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/10/02/exclusive-darren-bailey-within-striking-distance-as-illinois-governors-race-tightens-voters-ready-for-change/?fbclid=IwAR2Ak1k3I-J07wEL0fonSQau5486B6_Pnad1Ygne9BlUIEqjVUzeHynCLPU
02:54 TR Bot; Exclusive: Darren Bailey Within Striking Distance as Illinois Governor's Race Tightens
02:54 DaemonFC; "In August, he slammed the states SAFE-T (Safety, Accountability, Fairness and Equity-Today) Act that will end cash bail in Illinois and limit the use of force that police officers are permitted to use.
02:54 DaemonFC; The new law, passed by Democrats, will free from jail thousands of suspects accused of second-degree murder, kidnapping, burglary, robbery, and other violent crimes."
02:55 DaemonFC; Pretty much. It gives the prosecutor a high burden because they have to prove to a judge, who might be a Democrat and doesn't have to explain themselves and will probably be on the court for life, that the suspect is a clear and present danger to an identifiable person and they have to do that at a hearing, which has to be within 72 hours of an arrest.
02:56 DaemonFC; Otherwise, the police have to release you on a personal recognizance bond, which basically just means most people will sign it and go back to killing and raping and not show up for their trial.
02:57 DaemonFC; "If elected to office, Bailey said he would repeal the law, which is slated to take effect in January."
02:57 DaemonFC; He can't. There's no plausible situation where he gets into office with a legislature that will do as he says.
02:58 DaemonFC; About the only thing he could do is appoint new judges that have promised to lock up violent offenders using their discretion that the law gives them, but that doesn't happen overnight.
02:58 DaemonFC; The only ways a judge loses their office is if they are convicted of a crime, die, fail a retention vote, or get impeached.
02:59 DaemonFC; The law kicks in in January and will basically ensure a crime wave that sweeps the entire state.
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02:59 DaemonFC; The same so-called reform package makes it harder to charge murder accomplices and allows for anonymous and unsworn complaints to be filed against law enforcement officers, he said.
03:00 DaemonFC; That's true, but it also doesn't require the Internal Affairs department to act on those complaints.
03:00 DaemonFC; And the officer you complain of will know it was you if you leave any identifying information in the complaint, which basically means that the complaint won't go anywhere, but now you have cop(s) with a grudge against you, who may see you around town and invent things to harass you with further.
03:01 DaemonFC; "He also slammed Pritzker and Lightfoot for the increase in violent crime in Chicago and throughout the state by taking away tools for law enforcement officials to use against criminals."
03:01 bagira; im actually amazed illinois hasn't collapsed into various gang-run territories at this point, they just keep getting worse
03:02 DaemonFC; Most of those "tools" were basically police bullshit. Like, they want to stop you and check your car, so they say you had fuzzy dice on your rearview mirror.
03:02 DaemonFC; bagiraim actually amazed illinois hasn't collapsed into various gang-run territories at this point, they just keep getting worse
03:02 DaemonFC; Parts of it have.
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03:02 DaemonFC; Chicago only has enough police to enforce the law in less than half the city, so some neighborhoods have 2-3 hour response times for 911 now.
03:03 DaemonFC; There's a couple of cities that would file bankruptcy, but they can't because Illinois doesn't allow it, so they fired all of the police and firefighters because the state intercepted their tax money to pay pensions for cops and firefighters they used to have.
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03:04 bagira; schestowitz: After a great deal of back and forth, I'm able and willing to speak out about Frank Gingras stalking me and my family for several years if you'd like to do an interview.
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 DaemonFC; Illinois is getting ready to collapse.
03:05 DaemonFC; The only reason it didn't during the entirely avoidable COVID "crisis" was because it took bailout loans from the Federal Reserve.
03:05 DaemonFC; The state was the only one to do it because the rest of the states can get loans at rates lower than what Russia pays.
03:05 DaemonFC; So no reason to use the Fed's "State and Municipal Liquidity" program.
03:06 bagira; schestowitz I am also able to confirm that the Apache Software Foundation was made aware of the issue at a conference several years ago and took no action.
03:07 bagira; schestowitz for context, Frank Gingras is associated with the Apache project and is their "main guy" on their official IRC channels, and was at one point heavily associated with the Slackware community.
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03:18 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/supreme-court-to-hear-case-that-could-have-massive-impact-on-us-water-quality/?fbclid=IwAR2VG1fPBiP0RZ4EJqRFe1zFrQpD_sbd9sAc1PjSoSzYxSI6s_X2n38BXYI
03:18 TR Bot; Supreme Court to hear case that could have massive impact on US water quality | WGN-TV
03:19 DaemonFC; I liked how in Ghostbusters, the guy who actually causes the disaster at the end of the movie is from the Environmental Protection Agency.
03:19 DaemonFC; And he shuts down the Ghostbusters' "confinement grid" without knowing what he's even doing just because Peter Venkman slighted him.
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 DaemonFC; The movie accidentally made a good point.
03:20 DaemonFC; The government is stacked with people who don't know what they're doing and are on a major power trip and should never have gotten where they're at. :)
03:20 DaemonFC; MinceR: ^
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03:40 bagira; https://phanes.silogroup.org/frank-gingras-is-a-former-stalker-of-mine/
03:40 TR Bot; Frank Gingras is a Former Stalker of Mine Phanes' Canon
03:58 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/09/30/1126207614/trevor-noah-daily-show-late-night-tv-comedy-central
03:58 TR Bot; Trevor Noah leaves 'The Daily Show' a hint at deeper problems in late night TV : NPR
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03:58 DaemonFC; After ruining The Daily Show, Trevor Noah is leaving.
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04:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Basically, I think the artificial limitations of requiring a TPM for Windows "11" are mainly there to disguise software bloat. If your PC is new enough to have TPM2 you probably won't notice that it quadrupled the memory and disk footprint of the OS and doesn't do much more than Windows 10.
04:38 DaemonFC; Windows 10 was already incredibly bloated, but Windows 11 keeps piling it on. Including an entirely new GUI shell, except.....the old one is there too so things that expect it don't break.
04:38 DaemonFC; You just can't see it.
04:39 DaemonFC; To people who go "Well, yeah, but....compatibility...." No *nix desktop environment includes the last two versions as well for "compatibility". GNOME 4 doesn't include GNOME 3 and GNOME 2 running but hidden.
04:41 DaemonFC; Only in 2019 did Microsoft purge the last remnants of Outlook Express, which hadn't even done anything as a functional program since Windows XP.
04:41 DaemonFC; Only in 2021 did they remove syskey.exe, which is from Windows NT 4, iirc, because tech support scammers were using it to lock you computer and demand money.
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05:08 bagira; windows is going to try to pivot to be a linux company
05:08 bagira; MSFT is i mean
05:08 starstreak; its phanes!
05:09 bagira; it is i
05:09 highest_cubist_thrills; <bagira> windows is going to try to pivot to be a linux company <- the only thing i dont like about this is
05:09 starstreak; Microsoft Linucks 24.04 LTS, with edge and powershell
05:09 highest_cubist_thrills; people are going to say "thats why theyre taking shit over. because THEY HAVE NO CHOICE"
05:10 bagira; they are trying to maximize control of what distros can be installed and then inject themselves so far into the kernel that it's basically a msft os
05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; which is fine, except then theyre like
05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; "so they wont fuck it up..."
05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; oh yeah? what did they do to windows? RIGHT, okay.
05:10 bagira; tarvolds is drunk at the wheel though and won't see it coming
05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; the microsoft model is breaking everything, then selling people a broom and dustpan.
05:10 bagira; he's checked out
05:11 bagira; so
05:11 bagira; f/oss will not be a on linux kernel in the future
05:11 bagira; i dont know what kernel it _will_ center around, but it won't be linux at some point
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; tarvolds is drunk at the wheel <- lawrence lessig has a clip of the guy steering the exxon valdeez before it spilled
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; lets just say he was tanked.
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; on a tanker.
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; hes calling in on the radio
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; and he sounds completely out of it
05:12 bagira; i dont mean that he has a drinking problem i mean he's not resisting corporate infection of the kernel anymore
05:12 starstreak; i use arch btw
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; but it won't be linux at some point <- even hurd was based on bsd
05:13 bagira; he either sees it and doesn't care or or he doesn't see it because he's not paying attention or thinking strategically (have they found his blind spot?)
05:13 highest_cubist_thrills; thats why they call it bsd
05:13 highest_cubist_thrills; because its (b)a(s)e(d)
05:13 bagira; i dont think bsd is ever going to be much more than it is
05:13 highest_cubist_thrills; what would it need to be
05:14 bagira; i dont know
05:14 highest_cubist_thrills; also im just talking about the kernel
05:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean bsd has a forkable kernel
05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; linux not so much
05:15 bagira; what i fear due to no visible emerging contender is that msft will just gradually infect linux further until everything is running MSFT Linux
05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; is that msft will just gradually infect linux further until everything is running MSFT Linux <- i think we are already there
05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; it will just get worse and more obvious and blatant
05:15 bagira; no not even close
05:15 bagira; but yes it will get worse and more obvious and blatant
05:15 highest_cubist_thrills; does openbsd have microsoft edge? <- yeah by default. gnome too
05:16 highest_cubist_thrills; pkg_add monodevelop
05:16 bagira; the problem isn't just msft infection of linux
05:16 bagira; the problem is that they have corrupted the talent pool to create conteners
05:16 bagira; *contenders
05:16 highest_cubist_thrills; stackoverflow.com/questions/73870369/view-my-website-on-edge-and-safari-browsers-only
05:16 highest_cubist_thrills; That is, it can only be view on EDGE and SAFARI Browsers alone. How do i achieve that? javascript. php. html. sql. cpanel.
05:16 bagira; you aren't going to see indie projects prop up with viable performant kernels that can compete with linux
05:17 highest_cubist_thrills; competing with windows never took us anywhere good imo
05:17 highest_cubist_thrills; competing with linux wont either
05:17 highest_cubist_thrills; no point being indepedent if we have to play by their rules anyway
05:18 starstreak; im looking forward to the new version of Gnome Web, it uses firefox extensions
05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; holwerdas funniest article ever. april 1?
05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; Microsoft Edge is becoming the browser you didn't know you needed
05:18 highest_cubist_thrills; www.osnews.com/story/131612/microsoft-edge-is-becoming-the-browser-you-didnt-know-you-needed/
05:18 bagira; no
05:18 bagira; i mean
05:19 bagira; there won't be any independent projects
05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre certianly working on it.
05:19 bagira; i mean there will be some smaller projects here and there, but "this boom" can't bereproduced
05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; free software is dead anyway
05:19 bagira; because they've alienated or purchased any conceivable talent that would and could
05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the fake version is still kicking
05:19 highest_cubist_thrills; because they've alienated or purchased any conceivable talent that would and co <- yep
05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and some of the talentless too
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05:20 highest_cubist_thrills; starstreak: i honestly tried to find ANYTHING about edge and openbsd
05:21 highest_cubist_thrills; i got nothing. i think the search engine is actually making up results and laughing at me.
05:21 highest_cubist_thrills; did you mean: red vs blue smurfs crossover series?
05:21 starstreak; i dont think openbsd has any chrome based browser, so its a fail
05:22 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, theo de raadt should just open a pizza place or something
05:22 highest_cubist_thrills; "we use stuffed crust because it increases the attack surface for more flavour!"
05:23 starstreak; attack surface btw
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "we create research pizza for our own purposes. we dont really care if anyone likes our pizza or not"
05:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "we created stuff crust as a mitigation, now other pizza places have adopted it"
05:24 highest_cubist_thrills; "we were the first pizza place to put the little plastic table in the box so you didnt get cheese all over the lid. i was pretty proud of that one."
05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "we also created the insulated pizza carrier so pizzas remained hot when they came to your door"
05:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "the only thing we didnt invent was pizza itself. some italian guy got there first"
05:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "we take no credit for the use of ham and pineapple-- those are not mitigations, they are exploits"
05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome has three kinds of hawaiian pizza
05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; in gnome 3 the pizza is hawaiian by default
05:27 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone hated it and they said "fuck you, youre going to eat hawaiian pizza and youll fucking like it"
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg pointed out that the guy that invented pizza was a misogynist and ableist
05:29 highest_cubist_thrills; also long dead but its not too late to cancel him. i mean he still gets credit for inventing pizza
05:30 highest_cubist_thrills; at this point people need to understand that pizza only exists because of countless groups of people, not just one guy
05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; which of course is true in a way.
05:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the guy that invented pizza didnt even think to put cheese on it ffs
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; until a guy named linnos torvallini decided he was going to make pizza
05:32 highest_cubist_thrills; only he didnt call it pizza, he called it torvallini. then he got bought out by papa johns.
05:34 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza
05:34 TR Bot; History of pizza - Wikipedia
05:34 highest_cubist_thrills; according to wikipedia, pizza was invented by roy schestowitz in 2006
05:35 highest_cubist_thrills; "Pizza Rolls were first invented by Jeno Paulucci in 1968. His company also named Jeno's Pizza Rolls was the official owner up until he sold the business to Pillsbury who later changed the name to Totino's. Pizza Rolls were first created by replacing the contents of an egg roll with pizza toppings."
05:38 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6XvMKdD2tY
05:38 TR Bot; 500 Year-Old Pizza VS Today - Invidious
05:39 starstreak; comic: https://i.imgur.com/T1S3Nco.jpg
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05:39 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl
05:40 highest_cubist_thrills; til dishwashing gloves arent enough to stop the tap water from turning frogs gay
05:41 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6XvMKdD2tY <- 00:00:25 robert california goes back centuries in italy
05:41 highest_cubist_thrills; how did they know james spader would end up looking like that though
05:44 highest_cubist_thrills; https://i.ibb.co/YTxXjbV/james-spader-fresco.jpg
05:54 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, October 02, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
05:54 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
05:54 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
05:54 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
05:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Yeah, they're talking about Credit Suisse failing now, but no worries.
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06:01 DaemonFC; Well, you know....
06:02 DaemonFC; You launder money for cocaine traffickers......You finance terrorism.....You tell hedge funds you do business with to destroy evidence of the loans to Russian oligarchs that you backed....
06:02 DaemonFC; Banking!
06:02 TR News; Craving a game gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1664730725
06:03 TR News; I should learn Russian gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/i-should-learn-russian
06:03 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D372.jpg
06:04 TR News; Kale goes to gemspace gemini://kalechips.smol.pub/2022-10-02-first
06:04 TR News; "I'll also probably be talking about everything Linux/FOSS, gaming, the small web and what not." gemini://djpro.smol.pub/first-post
06:05 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D717.jpg
06:10 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about a blog post that explains there isnt really an open source software supply chain. The whole idea of open source being one thing is incorrect, open source is really a lot of little things put together. A lot of companies and organizations get this wrong." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/02/episode-343-stop-trying-to-fix-the-open-source-software-supply-chain/
06:10 TR Bot; Episode 343 Stop trying to fix the open source software supply chain Open Source Security
06:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Mozilla is trying to cram Clang down everyone's throats.
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; mozilla has no respect for boundaries
06:13 schestowitz[TR]; keeps shoving ads
06:13 DaemonFC; They're trying to drop a bunch of patches in Skia that make it perform well when built with GCC.
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; firefox became malicious software
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; maybe gulag told moz that gpl is bad
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; and moz has to nod
06:14 schestowitz[TR]; for baker to keep robbing the org
06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> mozilla has no respect for boundaries <- mozilla was invented in 1602 in naples as a way to funnel money from the papacy to the mob
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; firefox became malicious software <- and mozilla became a not-for-profit-for-profit
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; like the fsf
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; well, at least osi
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf merely ADVOCATES stealing free software and handing control to corporations that hate user freedom
06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; osi is the militant wing of the salvation army
06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; ibms take on open source goes back to the early 20th century when work camps used forced labour and "terminated" anyone not useful to the state and corporations
06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; it turns out when you dont pay your workers and you murder them when they take ill or get injured, profits go way up
06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; just one of many innovations from big blue brother
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; along with gas chambers as a retirement package
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; "it also removes lice from clothing!"
06:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "i mean we didnt invent that. we just streamlined it by not having them take the clothes off first"
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; anyone else think its interesting that ibms trademark colour is similar to prussian blue?
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-holocaust-art-possible-a-murderous-shade-of-blue-is-one-painters-answer/
06:29 TR Bot; Is Holocaust art possible? A murderous shade of blue is one painter's answer | The Times of Israel
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "The Prussian blue-tinted stains sometimes found on gas chamber walls are from the compound ferrocyanide, a byproduct of the Zyklon B gas"
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe they should be called zbm
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; zyklon b machines
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; zyklon b murderers
06:32 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=US-KcZbZGUk
06:32 TR Bot; Getting started with IBM Blueworks Live: an introduction - Invidious
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zfLVvk7CjY4 <- ibm blue cloud
06:33 TR Bot; IBM Blue Cloud is Ready-to-Use Cloud Computing - Invidious
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; "dont worry, this time our blue cloud doesnt contain ferrocyanide!"
06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zpIdUNDSIGM
06:34 TR Bot; IBM Blue Lightning 486 DX2 class PC - Invidious
06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm blue lightning-- what, like the ss insignia?
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_386SLC#IBM_486BL_(Blue_Lightning)
06:37 TR Bot; IBM 386SLC - Wikipedia
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; "whether its millions of transistors or millions of jews, ibm is working towards a better future for everyone. except maybe jews."
06:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: It gets harder and harder to build Firefox with GCC.
06:39 DaemonFC; I think sooner or later, it will get a build exception from fesco.
06:39 TR News; (NEW): Regolith Is the Perfect Introduction to Tiling Window Managers on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Regolith_Is_the_Perfect_Introduction_to_Tiling_Window_Managers_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Regolith_Is_the_Perfect_Introduction_to_Tiling_Window_Managers_.gmi
06:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Regolith Is the Perfect Introduction to Tiling Window Managers on Linux
06:39 DaemonFC; It's not like IBM is a huge fan of the GPL.
06:39 highest_cubist_thrills; "IBM later marketed Socket 3 168-pin PGA Blue Lightning 486 CPUs, but these are technically not related to earlier Blue Lightning models as they are based on the Cyrix Cx486 CPU core. They can be distinguished by the inclusion of a "DX" (or DX2, DX4) legend somewhere on the label"
06:39 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/
06:39 TR Bot; Red Hat/IBM Got Tired of RMS. Is It Getting Tired of GPL/Copyleft Too? | Techrights
06:40 DaemonFC; The main reason they kept building with GCC is because Clang was missing proper support for some of the security hardening that Fedora uses and generates useless debug symbols..
06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; https://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/
06:40 TR Bot; The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights
06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; /me checke watch and calendar
06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; any day now
06:41 DaemonFC; I wonder what mjg59_ Failed Biologist Extraordinaire thinks about turning off security to make Firefox build with Clang.
06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Coming
06:41 TR Bot; Second Coming - Wikipedia
06:42 TR News; (NEW): Review: SpiralLinux 11.220628 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Review_SpiralLinux_11_220628.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Review_SpiralLinux_11_220628.gmi
06:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Review: SpiralLinux 11.220628
06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; https://github.com/WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns
06:43 TR Bot; - WRainbow1/crown-of-thorns
06:44 TR News; New Pegasus Spyware Abuses Identified in Mexico - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/ Source: Citizen Lab | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//citizenlab.ca/2022/10/new-pegasus-spyware-abuses-identified-in-mexico/
06:44 TR Bot; New Pegasus Spyware Abuses Identified in Mexico - The Citizen Lab
06:44 TR News; (NEW): Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 2: multi-threading http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Notes_from_kernel_hacking_in_Hare_part_2_multi_threading.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Notes_from_kernel_hacking_in_Hare_part_2_multi_threading.gmi
06:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 2: multi-threading
06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yow_BJeb8TI
06:45 TR Bot; Guy Fawkes vs Che Guevara. Epic Rap Battles of History. - Invidious
06:45 TR News; Debian bookworm on a Lenovo T14s Gen3 AMD https://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_463
06:45 TR Bot; Debian bookworm on a Lenovo T14s Gen3 AMD
06:46 DaemonFC; Matthew Garrett
06:46 DaemonFC; @mjg59
06:46 DaemonFC; 19h
06:46 DaemonFC; Debian has voted to include non-free firmware in the installer by default, which is an impressive repudiation of the FSF
06:46 DaemonFC; -----
06:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: He gloats that non-free binaries that open up backdoors in hardware is included by default and that the FSF has been "repudiated"
06:47 DaemonFC; "security"
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; FSF shot its own foot
06:47 schestowitz[TR]; by giving award to a troll
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and thus discrediting the FSFF
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and the award
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; it was not the only time
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; de Icaza and others
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; bkuhn
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; they have a whole parade of people with FSF awards who bash the FSF
06:48 schestowitz[TR]; and what's that for?
06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i recall ariadne (i might be thinking of someone else though) saying the point of the fsf awards was to mend things with people rms pissed off
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/
06:49 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; yes, like reconciliation attempts
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; but it does not work
06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont want to misquote or misattribute, so it should be assumed my wording here is lacking in accuracy somewhere
06:49 schestowitz[TR]; they just give a badge of endorsement to people would would continue to bash their mission
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; but it does not work <- no, the fsf awards are as misguided an approach as secure boot itself
06:50 schestowitz[TR]; and now while saying things like, I'm even a freedom 'champion'... gott this award right here
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; the whole military "heroes" thing is also a pr campaign
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; ive got family in the armed forces-- i dont hate them or anything
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre being used by imperialism
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; some of them at least are guilty of crimes
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the armed forces
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; but war is a hostage situation where the hostages are pitted against each other
06:51 TR News; New page/update: SWI-Prolog version 8.4.3 (stable) released on 22 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog
06:51 TR Bot; Swi-prolog - Free Software Directory
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; sure there are "volunteers"
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; often relatively poor
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; create a lower class, tell them they can volunteer
06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; raise college tuition, tell them youll pay for them to go to college
06:52 TR News; "Welcome to this week's Linux Weekly Roundup. We had a full week in the world of Linux releases, many reviews will be ready next week." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/10/linux-weekly-roundup-202.html
06:52 TR Bot; Linux Weekly Roundup #202
06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; then pump people full of propaganda about "liberating" the world
06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; from situations imperialism created in the first place
06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; its a great scam
06:53 TR News; IBM and Microsoft as coauthors. Or Red Hat. They're not competing with Microsoft but appeasing the enemy that's attacking us. https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/10/03/userns-alpha/
06:53 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.25: alpha support for running Pods with user namespaces | Kubernetes
06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i was anti-imperialism as a libertarian too
06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; only libertarianism, like ancoms, has no plan and is basically ineffective against imperialism
06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; so it just kind of fluffs itself all day and listens to punk rock
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; ok, im trying very hard to be more fair than that. jurys still out on ancoms
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i gave libertarians enough time to get serious, will never happen.
06:56 TR News; More clowns... from "Senior Contributor I cover Clown Computing" https://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2022/10/02/spectro-cloud-aims-to-simplify-managing-cloud-native-edge-infrastructure/?ss=cloud
06:56 TR Bot; Spectro Cloud Aims To Simplify Managing Cloud Native Edge Infrastructure
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart seems to love an-coms. hates stallman.
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; he gives more money to an-com youtubers than i ever gave to the fsf
06:57 TR News; "Any member of the campus community who participates in the clinic will receive a meal voucher worth up to $10 for vendors in the Nebraska and Nebraska East unions." https://news.unl.edu/newsrooms/today/article/university-to-host-covid-vaccine-clinic-on-oct-10/
06:57 TR Bot; University to host COVID vaccine clinic on Oct 10 | Nebraska Today | University of NebraskaLincoln
06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; the thing that fucks me off about them isnt their goal
06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; its their methods
06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; they say anarchy isnt chaos, then they spend endless years taking each other out
06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; nobody expects the civil inquisition!
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06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; "welcome to anarcho-communism. all fire is friendly fire!"
06:58 TR News; They pay like $100 for PATENT licences for 3 shots (that cost cents to make) and only 10 bucks to people who then become CLIENTS of the VENDOR, lacking any long-term clinical trials, so they compel you to also sign a waiver.
06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; "if you arent shooting at your own comrades youre not a real anarchist!"
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 71.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.58
06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; who knows what draws al sweigart to this. personally im fascinated.
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; id LOVE to ask him. would he give an honest answer? because seriously, any answer i can imagine only brings with it more questions.
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07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; im probably giving him too much credit. flawed philosophy (which sweigart loves) is like the dna in jurassic park
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; if they cant get a complete genome they just throw whatever frog dna or whatever they can find
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "hey buddy! wanna buy the philosophical equivalent of 'junk dna'?"
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; "sure um, you look like a reputable business owner."
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; so trying to understand the logic is probably like trying to find a pattern in white noise
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont have a fucking clue what theyre doing
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but the goal is righteous, so smash until someone rebuilds it as something better
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07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; then smash that too! its worked so far
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; this wont become a tool of corporations or anything
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07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; iraq is bad! smash!
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; halliburton: "who sent these guys?"
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; "i dont know, but like the cut of their jib!"
07:04 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart: cancel mob the boring stuff
07:06 highest_cubist_thrills; if you wonder why i keep mentioning sweigart its because hes a financial connection between left anarchists and the coup
07:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i tried to get away from him but hes fucking everywhere
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; you know those crazy stories about george soros?
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart is like the an-com mini me of that
07:07 TR News; iTWire - Even Barnaby Joyce knows Optus attack was anything but sophisticated! https://itwire.com/open-sauce/even-barnaby-joyce-knows-optus-attack-was-anything-but-sophisticated.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/even-barnaby-joyce-knows-optus-attack-was-anything-but-sophisticated.html
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean make no mistake, im exaggerating. just less than you might think.
07:07 TR Bot; - Even Barnaby Joyce knows Optus attack was anything but sophisticated!
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its absolutely wild
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; and you can totally make up a scenario (its just one of countless possibilities, so im not by any means assuming its true)
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; where mjg got sucked into this like a cult
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; you can just as easily say swiegart did
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; these developers dont know shit about politics. if they did, they wouldnt work for fucking google for christs sake
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre useful pawns
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; im not trying to get them off the hook. i call them traitors.
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; but i am interested in the whole story. whatever the fuck it is.
07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but the story has so many interesting twists to it
07:10 TR News; "This is the 21st Discworld novel and relies on the previous Watch novels for characterization and cast development. I would not start here." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-06-228020-1.html
07:10 TR Bot; Review: Jingo by Terry Pratchett
07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; we are in the phase of free software history where it gets destroyed
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07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; no ones really fighting it, people pretend
07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; some even believe they are doing something. im not against trying-- they should keep trying if they really believe in the idea.
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; trying wont do shit right now. but if theyre really trying, that might keep some spark of the idea alive
07:12 TR News; IBM-sponsored propaganda/marketing site propels the false narrative of "supply chain" to demonise stuff while totally overlooking CISA/NSA back doors -- the real issue along with outsourced manufacturing of hardware https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/software-supply-chain-attacks-are-a-growing-threat/
07:12 TR Bot; Software Supply Chain Attacks Are A Growing Threat - IT Jungle
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; im not against that at all.
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; im only against people pretending theyre doing more than theyre actually doing
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; pretending non-results are results.
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; because thats horseshit.
07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; thats how you get quack medicine
07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; you whip together some ingredients that might work based on some incomplete or exaggerated research
07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; then you call it a cure and you scam people
07:14 TR News; "We go hands-on at NASA's JPL and learn why Linux is the best OS for Earth and Mars." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8877
07:14 highest_cubist_thrills; thats how people end up dead from "horse" medicine
07:14 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do that with political strategy too
07:15 highest_cubist_thrills; whip together a bunch of tactics, unleash them and pretend it did any good, when it made things worse
07:15 highest_cubist_thrills; they destroyed the fsf
07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; they were useful pawns. they did about as much for the fsf
07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; as cancelling eich did for mozilla
07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg: post-stallman free software
07:16 TR News; Timothy Prickett Morgan = paid and bought ICBM shill. Some still treat him as independent journalist, despite the trail of bribes. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/we-need-some-insight-from-you/
07:16 TR Bot; We Need Some Insight From You - IT Jungle
07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; look at how post-eich mozilla worked out
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; web with drm, microsoft owns webkit AND gecko
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; icecat is source only but who wants to compile the ocean?
07:17 TR News; (NEW): CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CPU_X_an_Alternative_to_CPU_Z_for_Linux.gmi
07:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines CPU-X an Alternative to CPU-Z for Linux
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; just to get stuck in the middle of it on a fucking raft
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; theyd rather use emacs
07:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: PornHub has a UK post.
07:18 DaemonFC; Searches for pegging spike the same time the Queen dies.
07:18 DaemonFC; I smell a conspiracy.
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; post-eich mozilla is literally a $cam
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; post-stallman f$f is bullshit
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; an influx of mozilla talent at sellout
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; people froim FB
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; from Microsoft
07:19 schestowitz[TR]; from CIA, literally
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; they did need to replace stallman, somehow
07:20 schestowitz[TR]; from assassination mission to non-profit :-)
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but there was hardly any point, if they were going to destroy everything he worked for as a biproduct
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; smash the bakery!
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; great, what will you eat
07:20 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.gmi
07:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; smash the hospitals!
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; fucking morons.
07:20 TR News; (NEW): Vim vs Neovim: Functionalities, and Strengths http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Vim_vs_Neovim_Functionalities_and_Strengths.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Vim_vs_Neovim_Functionalities_and_Strengths.gmi
07:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Vim vs Neovim: Functionalities, and Strengths
07:20 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.gmi
07:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; these are the same idiots that let stalin rise to power
07:21 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.0 is Officially Out with Run-Time Kernel Verification http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Linux_Kernel_6_0_is_Officially_Out_with_Run_Time_Kernel_Verific.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Linux_Kernel_6_0_is_Officially_Out_with_Run_Time_Kernel_Verific.gmi
07:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.0 is Officially Out with Run-Time Kernel Verification
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; one moment you overthrow a government
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; the next moment you overthrow mozilla geeks
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; and instyall fake security
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; and add lots of spyware to firefox
07:21 schestowitz[TR]; to level the playing field... for spies
07:21 highest_cubist_thrills; overthrow the boring stuff
07:21 TR News; (NEW): Next Phase For Rust In The Linux Kernel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Next_Phase_For_Rust_In_The_Linux_Kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Next_Phase_For_Rust_In_The_Linux_Kernel.gmi
07:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Next Phase For Rust In The Linux Kernel
07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; to the extreme!
07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; https://mcninja.fandom.com/wiki/King_Radical
07:23 TR Bot; King Radical | McNinja Wiki | Fandom
07:24 highest_cubist_thrills; if you read the entire comic, king radical ceases to be a parody
07:24 highest_cubist_thrills; he wants to replace everything in the universe with something less boring
07:25 highest_cubist_thrills; open source was always the "cool" version of free software
07:26 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KjB6r-HDDI0
07:26 TR Bot; Wayne's World (6/10) Movie CLIP - I Will Not Bow to Any Sponsor (1992) HD - Invidious
07:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i like that rob lowe was in two successful mike myers franchises
07:26 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey-2-53-14-and-noscript-crashes-palefills-not-working-more-grumbling-about-google-and-microsoft-webmail-open-source-mozilla-security-theater-software-bloat-and-matthew-garre/
07:26 TR Bot; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript crashes/Palefills not working. More grumbling about Google and Microsoft WebMail, open source, Mozilla, security theater, software bloat, and Matthew Garrett. | BaronHK's Rants
07:27 highest_cubist_thrills; wayes world, then he played #2 in austin powers
07:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: I hate Webmail, but I think I got Windows and Garrett pretty good at the end.
07:28 TR News; 3 Techrights posts about EPO coming later this morning
07:29 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.gmi
07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "you can stay in the big leagues and play by the rules, or you can go back to the farm club in aurora."
07:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "wayne, what the hell are you doing?"
07:29 TR News; / | Gemini address: /
07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "same thing weve always done"
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "youve humiliated our sponsor"
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "shyeah."
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "youre fired!"
07:30 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: Linux 6.0 is Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/linux-6-0-is-out/
07:30 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: Linux 6.0 is Out | Techrights
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "fired? for that? thats it, im outta here-- and im taking my show with me"
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; "we OWN the show"
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; yep.
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; they sure do.
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; a show called after you
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; they "own" you
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; you signed away your name
07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; still no idea what the fuck THIS is https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/help-others-find-free-software-watch-and-share-escape-to-freedom
07:31 TR Bot; Help others find free software: Watch and share Escape to Freedom Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; bears and stuff
07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; you signed away your nam <- waynux
07:32 schestowitz[TR]; the artist threw some repertoire in
07:32 highest_cubist_thrills; shoetool wasnt bad, but it marked the transition of the fsf from advocacy to pointless television
07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; its not that video is a bad medium. its that the message has nothing to back it with.
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; ikt's expensive
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; these videos have high budget
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; *it's
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; not sure how many watch these
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; and whether it justified the expense
07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean expensive videos arent videos if theyre volunteer created
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; after zoe they do some translation
07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; but if theyre paying for that
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; like mandarin
07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; hey, the treasurer is president
07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; if they paid a dollar for escape to freedom, they got ripped off
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; it has no story and no point
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; shoe.tools
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; its honestly crap
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; shoe.tools <- heh
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; "HEEL!"
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; contrapoints would have made a video 100 times better than escape to freedom
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; she probably would have sided with open source though
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; but the thing about contrapoints is that when she disagrees with someone
07:35 TR News; IBM i 7.3 Loses Standard Support On April 28, 2023 - IT Jungle https://www.itjungle.com/2022/10/03/ibm-i-7-3-loses-standard-support-on-april-28-2023/ ICBM = ripoff
07:35 TR Bot; IBM i 7.3 Loses Standard Support On April 28, 2023 - IT Jungle
07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; shes really honest when she thinks someone is right
07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; not just in a fair and balanced way, but in a way that makes you see the world in greater detail and maybe wisdom
07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; funded by al sweigart, alas. not her fault. im sure she has no idea who al sweigart is
07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; unless she codes in python or something
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he funds all the lefttubers
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he funded the video on cancel culture that talks about what he did to stallman
07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; its an amazing video
07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8
07:38 TR Bot; Canceling | ContraPoints - Invidious
07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; shes being cancelled for doing a show with hillary clinton
07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i could have met her years ago. i did not want to touch her hand
07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; the show with clinton, terrrrrrrible move
07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; if i read into her most recent video, all of her energy (and fucking sense) is going into quitting drinking. or im way off.
07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; so i can see how (some will think this is unfair. i dont) she lacks the energy to make reasonable decisions about who she associates with
07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; especially since while its true that clinton is a war criminal and one of the more horrible people on earth, imo
07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; along with everyone else in her circle
07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; which includes most of the republican party (including trump) imo
07:41 highest_cubist_thrills; the fact is, she got canceled just as hard for letting a trans adult star do a VOICEOVER in one of her videos
07:41 highest_cubist_thrills; because hes not a woke enough trans person
07:42 highest_cubist_thrills; some trans people are like "youre not REAL trans unless you... x y z"
07:42 highest_cubist_thrills; and he ONCE SAID something that SOUNDS LIKE he might be one of those people
07:42 highest_cubist_thrills; so by association, she is one of those people ("truscum") because she "associated" with him
07:43 highest_cubist_thrills; twitter is like the fucking stasi.
07:43 highest_cubist_thrills; so yeah, its more than a faux pas to go for drinks and dancing with a war criminal
07:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but if it was a trans person who isnt the right sort of trans politically, thats just as bad to these people
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no sense of proportion. at all. none.
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; sound like anyone you know?
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; from google or anything
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; granted i talk about ibm like theyre the fucking third reich
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats because they literally were the third reich.
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and no one seems to have much of a problem with that
07:44 highest_cubist_thrills; in the stallman version of this
07:45 highest_cubist_thrills; hillary clinton and war criminals are fine
07:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but buck angel? doing a voice over? how dare you!
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07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; "but also like the guillotine, it CAN become a sadistic entertainment spectacle"
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; hitler used a guillotine
07:49 highest_cubist_thrills; they used pretty much any lethal means they could get their goosestepping little hands on
07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; dont worry about mike godwin, hes fucking dead
07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; tragic accident de-lousing some clothing. he will be missed.
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; in zee end it was zee law zat killed him
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Did You Know The Nazi's Killed 16,000 People By Guillotine?
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4604772/Nazi-head-hunter-invented-guillotine-killed-3-000.html
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Nazi executioner Johann Reichhart killed over 3,000 people during his career Reichhart ended lives of criminals and dissidents with the plunge of a guillotine
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07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; The Nazi's Killed 16,000 <- obviously THAT wasnt working
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; too slow.
07:53 highest_cubist_thrills; the needed to find a way to get ahead. sorry.
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i know the adl is going to be after me now, but it only says "criminals and dissidents with the plunge of a guillotine
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and that sounds like they were still ROUNDING UP the jews
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; so maybe they were killing aryans and catholics
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and cathoics, as the adl should know, are a mixed bag.
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07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but 16,000 is so few you dont even need ibm to count them.
07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean thats what the third reich looks like when you dont "automate the boring stuff with dehomag"
07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; sorry, al.
07:59 TR News; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/
07:59 TR Bot; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 52.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 99.30
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08:00 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I've jsut republished your post
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; the troll asked me tom publish hhis posts too
08:00 highest_cubist_thrills; yes but it was a rhetorical point
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; but that same troll said we should shun and not publish and not even deal with bugs from tranphobes
08:00 highest_cubist_thrills; he doesnt care if you publish him or not
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; the troll said he was a transpobe
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; after a phd from cambridge
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; so I cannot repost an article for him
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08:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the troll said he was a transpobe <- i knew youd make this THE meme of 2022
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; I don't, according to him, have the capacity for publishing technical posts from transpohbes
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: yes
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; he said,
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; we should shun them
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; and then said he too is the one to be shunned
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; he's a joke on two thun legs
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; *thin
08:02 highest_cubist_thrills; hes at a point where his transphobic past is never going to bite him. as starstreak (correctly) points out, everyone was a transphobe back then.
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; notice he has been mostly shitting up since then
08:02 schestowitz[TR]; not the first time he makes self-incriminating brags
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: untrue
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; if you talk about 20 years backj
08:03 highest_cubist_thrills; notice he has been mostly shitting up since then <- if he takes a nap you act like hes waving a white flag though
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; now after a campaign of intimidation
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; many just don't talk aboutn it
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; that's not acceptance
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; it is self-censorship
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; and still about 95% of the world does not accept transd at all
08:03 schestowitz[TR]; that 9% includes women
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; (*95
08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: untru <- its not untrue, his previous transphobia is never going to bite him. thats realistic.
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; so that's how it is
08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; what he cant appreciate is that it shouldnt have bitten stallman the way it did either.
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to tech now
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; the article is about Google and the Web
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; and email
08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean apart from the fact that stallman isnt actually a transphobe. that too should matter.
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; we're facing issues here other than sw freedom
08:04 highest_cubist_thrills; but narratives > reality
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; but standards
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; and platforms
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; all that vendor lockin stuff, inc. the back doors that accompany that
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; rms was not even transphobic 20 years agoi
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; and yet the tolls who were pick on him
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; *trolls
08:05 highest_cubist_thrills; double standards and hypocrisy are cornerstones of cancel culture
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; and then have the audacity to accuse OTHERS of defamation
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, hypocrisy
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, so today we have some EPO leaks
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; and letters
08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; electric patent orchestra
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; and rianne finally deposits her naturalisation docs
08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; at least one of you will be british now
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; in truss britain iut's not a huge feature
08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; though tbh i assumed she was native.
08:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean i assumed she was born in the uk
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; this assumption sho0ws
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; privacy works
08:07 highest_cubist_thrills; well i have roughly zero interest in rianne as a person
08:07 highest_cubist_thrills; shes not relevant to anything i do
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; but I brought up this subject at one point, for some reason
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; maybe to boast about her perfect score
08:08 highest_cubist_thrills; perfect score on naturalisation?
08:09 highest_cubist_thrills; /me missed something somewhere
08:10 schestowitz[TR]; you might also assume the troll was born in England
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; but Northern Ireland was already in the UK
08:11 highest_cubist_thrills; anyway, emigrating to britain isnt easy, i should know
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; ""
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; The establishment of the Irish Free State in 1922 led to the remainder later being renamed the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in 1927. Anthem: "God Save the King" (180137, 190122) "God Save the Queen" (18371901)
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; brexit puts this at risk
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; same for sscotland
08:11 highest_cubist_thrills; no, i thought mjg was from northern ireland.
08:11 highest_cubist_thrills; which is british, but its also irish.
08:11 schestowitz[TR]; the appeal of being run by westminister is not there anymore
08:12 highest_cubist_thrills; which means hes british, but also irish.
08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; fun fact, the only reason i ever met someone from the fsf
08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; is because i recognised a belfast accent.
08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont explain, but its quite true.
08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but i cant recognise other irish accents.
08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; ill guess theyre from south africa before i guess theyre from ireland! unless its a really obvious one
08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; like the irish equivalent of the crocodile hunter
08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; if you talk like youre doing a commercial for lucky charms, of course ill guess irish
08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; that cereal is not incredibly popular in ireland btw
08:16 highest_cubist_thrills; \_()_/
08:17 DaemonFC; You know what really annoys the shit out of me. It's not trans people. It's the ones that say you're a transphobe just because you are mildly perplexed by the concept.
08:17 DaemonFC; Not actively trying to hurt them in any way.
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08:18 schestowitz[TR]; FSF needs to study https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Concern_troll
08:18 TR Bot; Internet troll - Wikipedia
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; they are too easily manipulated by them
08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=quKaWlCalTg
08:19 TR Bot; Catherine Tate Show - Gay Son John HQ Part 3/5 - Invidious
08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; they are too easily manipulated by them <- money was the wrecking ball
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; "The authors noted that authorities tended to overlook or to deny situations that involve uncertainty while making unscientific arguments and disparaging comments in order to undermine opposing positions"
08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; trolls are just the squatters camped out in the ruins
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; "The New York Times reported in late October 2018 that Saudi Arabia used an online army of Twitter trolls to harass the late Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi and other critics of the Saudi government"
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; Twitter
08:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, they had trolls before
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; invested in by...
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but the fsf has been full of holes left by money for ages
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; ""While corporate networking site LinkedIn is considered a platform of good taste and professionalism, companies searching for personal information by promoting jobs that were not real and fake accounts posting political messages has caught the company off guard
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft now blames "open source" for it
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
08:20 TR Bot; Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; linkedin has problems
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; it's proprietary
08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; Microsoft now blames "open source" for it <- microsoft might as well blame microsoft
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; blame "open source"
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; my friend got scammed there
08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft <3 scapegoats
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; lost all his money
08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; we all got scammed by open source.
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; they also use "north korea" as scpegoat here
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; one of the least popular countries
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; but linkedin is not north korean
08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; to be fair, there isnt much you can say thats nice about north korea
08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; they have cute women pointing which way to turn on the roads.
08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; and even that is probably under the very worst of circumstances for the women.
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; ""
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; For example, a person who wishes to shame obese people, but disguises this impulse as concern for the health of overweight people, could be considered a concern troll
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; Like a tranphobe calling people "tranphobes"
08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, theyve got that right
08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman was cancelled by 3,000 shitlords.
08:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Browsing in SeaMonkey still performs well with JavaShit suppressed by NoScript.
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; it stared in 2019
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; with defamation
08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; 2018
08:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/
08:22 TR Bot; One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights
08:22 DaemonFC; If you don't run too much of that, then there's not a lot of "jank".
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; people still find this when they 'google' it
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/
08:23 TR Bot; Is LibrePlanet Safe?
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; and it looks like a "legit" site
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: maybe
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; without question.
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; but really more so in 2019
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; in 2018 it was Torvalds in the penalty box
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; they want you to think it started
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; in 2018 it was Torvalds in the penalty box <- didnt read the link then
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; because he upset the same people who a lear later "worked on" RMS
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, i got that link from you.
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; emboldened by the prior "success"
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ <- stallman, not torvalds
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; they had a failed go in 2015 as well (same people) http://techrights.org/2015/10/07/forking-with-hypocrisy/
08:24 TR Bot; Hypocrite Forks the Linux Kernel Because of Cultural Characteristics That He Himself is Guilty of | Techrights
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; youre flipflopping again. when i say it started in 2018 you say it started earlier
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/
08:24 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; today you say it happened later
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; award to the man who 10 years ago was a tranphobe, by his own admission
08:24 schestowitz[TR]; for 25+ years
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; if you stuck to facts you could have a more consistent narrative
08:25 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/california-high-school-football-slave-auction-reaj/index.html
08:25 TR Bot; Valley High School in California cancels football season after athletes filmed staging 'slave auction' prank | CNN
08:25 highest_cubist_thrills; granted, if you do find out new information, better to incorporate new facts than worship consistency of error
08:25 DaemonFC; California: Where people "get it".
08:25 DaemonFC; - mjg59_
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: 2008/9
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; guadec
08:25 highest_cubist_thrills; thats better
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2009/09/26/richard-stallman-smeared-for-truth/
08:25 TR Bot; Richard Stallman is Not the Bad Guy | Techrights
08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; not a new phenomenon
08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; but it goes to show you-- they never stop
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; the term is new
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; "cancel culture"
08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; they are relentless until their goal is achieved
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; I think it's a term coined by the righ wing
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; so I try not to use it much
08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i consider that before the coup though.
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; same for several pther loaded terms
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; that get you mis-branded
08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; I think it's a term coined by the righ wing <- so I try not to use it muc <- you give them way too much credit.
08:26 highest_cubist_thrills; youre like that communist i knew from greece, right before i started helping you out.
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; no, you avoid the ad hom
08:27 schestowitz[TR]; as best you can
08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; he thought "cultural marxism" was an alt right thing.
08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; if he knew anything he would know it was nearly identical to a complaint made by lenin himself.
08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; about "cultural chauvanists"
08:27 highest_cubist_thrills; which is EXACTLY what cancel culture is: cultural chauvanism
08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; a group of petty bourgiosie that think themselves superior to "less educated" proles
08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; in other words, wokeness DESERVES privilege.
08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; and the proles are too unrefined to be woke
08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; lenin complained about this 100 years ago
08:28 highest_cubist_thrills; you give credit to the alt-right
08:29 highest_cubist_thrills; if you can explain how lenin is alt-right, by my guest. you can do a series on it.
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; I think I read "cultural marxism" was a jordan peterson thinfg
08:29 highest_cubist_thrills; again-- you give the alt-right way too much credit
08:29 highest_cubist_thrills; you like them silence you by pretending to have invented things they appropriated from the left
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; mayeb
08:29 schestowitz[TR]; but the point is, hoosing terms carefully can help the message
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid false accusations
08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; the alt-right appropriates terminology from the left all the time
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; like, for instance, people who compare Pocock to Trump
08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; choosing terms carefully can help the message <- or it can make you afraid to make important points
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; which is insanely inadequate because his politics are to the left
08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; like ones about cancel culture.
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; spamnil tried to compare me to trump
08:30 highest_cubist_thrills; because youre afraid of being lumped in with people who appropriated the term.
08:30 schestowitz[TR]; he did not even bother explaining the similarity
08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; spamnil tried to compare me to trump <- of course he did. hes an idiot.
08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; and trump was basically satan and darth vader and hitler rolled into one at the time
08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; so he compared you to satan himself
08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; a very old trick
08:31 highest_cubist_thrills; he might as well have said you were a witch.
08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; he gets no points for originality, or accuracy.
08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; but then hes spamnil, so this is no surprise
08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; uses a mac and calls it linux
08:32 highest_cubist_thrills; accuracy is definitely not his forte
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; the contexts were
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; several times when I showed he was shilling anti-FOSS stuff
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; and his response was, several times, was you're trump
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; or like trump
08:33 highest_cubist_thrills; yep
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; which not even remoately made sense
08:33 highest_cubist_thrills; that was a thing for a few years
08:33 schestowitz[TR]; because I did not even say anything political
08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; well i explained the entirety of the logic behind it
08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; you just pick the worst person on earth
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; at the time he kept blustering in twitter about trump
08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; then you say "youre like them"
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; preying on his mind as an immigrant
08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; reductio ad trumpium
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; he boasted he would not allow trump on his show
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; a show that nowadays struggles to get 10 views per "episode"
08:34 schestowitz[TR]; so he pays for bots
08:34 highest_cubist_thrills; because trump was like "i definitely want to go on this guys show" and spamnil was like FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!
08:35 schestowitz[TR]; to boost it like 50x-100x the real views
08:35 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: I was born in Ireland, but largely grew up in Northern Ireland
08:35 highest_cubist_thrills; he cant even get hillary clinton because he isnt gutsy.
08:35 *schestowitz[TR] checks views
08:35 highest_cubist_thrills; I was born in Ireland <- ah, i was wrong
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; lol, 3 days ago, 12 views
08:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i assumed you were from the north originally
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; assume 2 are spamni checking his own video
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; one is the gust
08:36 *DaemonFC throws a potato at mjg59_
08:36 schestowitz[TR]; so abouti 9 views... after 3 days
08:36 DaemonFC; Not even a good potato. One of those crap ones from Indiana.
08:36 DaemonFC; I'm not going to waste an Idaho on you, buddy.
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; lo, there ios a view there from 3 weeks ago
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; 15 views
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; less than one per day
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; he wastes a lot of energy mixing up the mac
08:37 schestowitz[TR]; to make videos nobody watches and mostly bots 'click'
08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; /me speaks involuntarily with a northern accent for 3 days afterwards after any viewing of "ronin" despite mcelhones terrible northern accent
08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; but originally it lasted about a year
08:38 DaemonFC; I keep finding dead GUI stuff in SeaMonkey and pointing it out for deletion.
08:38 DaemonFC; I just found some more that survived the last batch. :P
08:39 highest_cubist_thrills; /me sounded MUCH cooler back then
08:39 highest_cubist_thrills; its too bad i dont have that anymore
08:39 DaemonFC; I got some more of the last tenants parking tickets. The woman is a goddamned menace.
08:40 DaemonFC; I wish they'd quit sending them here. I told them she doesn't live here.
08:41 DaemonFC; They have some lawyers in Chicago after her for $3,000 in unpaid parking tickets to City of Waukegan.
08:41 DaemonFC; You can thank Prickster for that. He's the one that passed the "They can't make anyone pay up or revoke their license because rayciss!" law.
08:42 highest_cubist_thrills; shes from surrey but both her parents were irish
08:42 DaemonFC; It's not that hard to obey the traffic laws. I have had three parking tickets in my life. One was $5 and I just laughed and paid it, and the other two were from a university that couldn't do anything about it because I wasn't a student there and they couldn't withhold transcripts.
08:43 DaemonFC; The $5 one was a laugh because I was parked in a two hour spot every day all day for 8 months before they ticketed me.
08:43 TR News; "Its my observation that people who have fully formed political opinions when they were in their 20s and had managed to graduate college with a PhD dont actually change them. If anything, they just get smart and dont advertise it so they can remain employable." http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/update-on-seamonkey/
08:43 TR Bot; Update on SeaMonkey 2.53.14 and NoScript Crashes/Palefills Not Working | Techrights
08:44 *DaemonFC waterboards mjg59_ with mashed potatoes.
08:45 DaemonFC; Not even good mashed potatoes. Those crummy Save-A-Lot instant potatoes with margarine instead of butter.
08:46 DaemonFC; That ought to get a real confession.
08:46 DaemonFC; I want to know who paid you for Secure Boot and when's the last time you actually had a transphobic thought, you transphobe!
08:48 DaemonFC; Oh, not talking, eh? Another scoop..... NOW WHO'S A F***IN' WIKI?
08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; trying to trick straight men into thinking theyre gay
08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; "did you put tap water in my drink?"
08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; "no, that only works on frogs"
08:49 DaemonFC; I found a Nintendo 64 emulator written in JavaScript.
08:49 DaemonFC; Like....why?
08:50 DaemonFC; Even on some shitass Chromebook, you can run Retroarch.
08:50 highest_cubist_thrills; "i thought you were supposed to kiss them"
08:50 highest_cubist_thrills; "i mean after a couple glasses of tap water theyre ready for a lot more than that"
08:50 highest_cubist_thrills; ribbit... for her pleasure
08:52 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg have you seen this https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OjMPJVmXxV8
08:52 TR Bot; Canceling | ContraPoints - Invidious
08:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i cant get over it because one of the people in the (patreon) credits signed the now infamous letter
08:53 highest_cubist_thrills; chalk it up to coincidence, he still funded her afterwards
08:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think this proves anything except that the world is a strange place
08:55 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YGgjUFTfRl8
08:55 TR Bot; John Lennon - Nobody Told Me - Invidious
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08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 66.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 74.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 96.68
08:59 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is when things become things
09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; they were things before that but now theyre things
09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is when things happen
09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is when
09:01 highest_cubist_thrills; abstraction is
09:03 highest_cubist_thrills; presumption of guilt -> abstraction -> essentialism
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; the examples a bit weak because as it was later found out...
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; al sweigart could have provided a MUCH better example
09:08 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 02, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-proceedings-sunday-october-02-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/irc-proceedings-sunday-october-02-2022/
09:08 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, October 02, 2022 | Techrights
09:10 highest_cubist_thrills; 12:35 "you can pretend youre simply offering up criticism, when what youre really doing is attacking a persons career and reputation out of spite, envy, revenge, i- i mean it could be any motivation"
09:10 highest_cubist_thrills; dont worry al, she wasnt even talking about stallman.
09:11 highest_cubist_thrills; "petty sadism... maybe not the internets proudest moment, but..."
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; she gets super cute sometimes and i just realised its when she takes her makeup off
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; she looks good in makeup too, but glamourous and cute arent exactly the same
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; 14:24 "james charles: is racist, ableist, transphobic, AND a sexual predator" -- may 2019 (twitter)
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; is there a cancel culture form letter you can draft all these from or something?
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; may 2019 (twitter)
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; there must be a new variant of that letter out by now
09:17 TR News; ICBM hyping up Kubernetes https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/kubernetes-statistics-2022
09:17 TR Bot; Kubernetes by the numbers, in 2022: 11 stats to see | The Enterprisers Project
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; 2021-03-23 Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety. These sorts of beliefs have no place in the free software, digital rights, and tech communities.
09:18 TR News; "These days, cash on hand is no longer a requirement, and Id argue that traffic isnt either just post online, and people worldwide can buy virtual lemonade." (if you don't value privacy and other rights) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/future-payments-6-predictions
09:18 TR Bot; The future of payments: 6 predictions | The Enterprisers Project
09:18 TR News; (NEW): [LibreOffice] Content controls in Writer: PDF export and combo box type http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/_LibreOffice_Content_controls_in_Writer_PDF_export_and_combo_bo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/_LibreOffice_Content_controls_in_Writer_PDF_export_and_combo_bo.gmi
09:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines [LibreOffice] Content controls in Writer: PDF export and combo box type
09:19 highest_cubist_thrills; he also made a nation or a planet radioactive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientology_security_checks
09:19 TR Bot; List of Scientology security checks - Wikipedia
09:19 highest_cubist_thrills; im all for freedom 0, but thats definitely abusing freedom 0.
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?"
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Have you ever smothered a baby?"
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Have you ever enslaved a population?"
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Have you ever destroyed a culture?"
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; " Have you ever torn out someone's tongue?"
09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; fsf: definitely not literally!
09:22 TR News; Airbus AoA Angle of Attack sensor issue | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/airbus-aoa-angle-of-attack-sensor-issue/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/airbus-aoa-angle-of-attack-sensor-issue/
09:22 TR Bot; Airbus AoA Angle of Attack sensor issue | Pen Test Partners
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc
09:22 TR Bot; Scientology - What are your crimes? - Invidious
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09:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Leftovers
09:22 TR News; "IVM Development Group is pleased to announce the release of pg_ivm 1.3." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pg_ivm-13-released-2517/
09:22 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: pg_ivm 1.3 released
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09:28 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever smothered a baby?"
09:29 DaemonFC; Have ya' ever eaten a baby? BABY! It's the other other white meat!
09:29 DaemonFC; I want mah baby back baby back baby back! I want mah baby back baby back baby back! Chili's baby back ribs!
09:30 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Did you come to Earth for evil purposes?"
09:31 DaemonFC; No, it was just a happy accident that I accomplished evil purposes. Coming to Earth was entirely unplanned by me.
09:31 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever enslaved a population?"
09:31 DaemonFC; No, well, yes. I bought Plantation Mint tea before they renamed it Perfectly Mint. Which is enough in mjg59_'s book to call me a slave owning transphobe.
09:32 DaemonFC; highest_cubist_thrills"Have you ever destroyed a culture?"
09:32 DaemonFC; No, but I've had some major international incidents.
09:33 DaemonFC; Do we accumulate sex objects?
09:33 DaemonFC; Well, I keep telling schestowitz[TR] to get rid of that butt plug, mjg59_
09:33 DaemonFC; But he just won't listen.
09:33 DaemonFC; So, sure, I guess.
09:35 DaemonFC; "Are you or have you ever been a Communist?"
09:35 DaemonFC; Immigration asks this.
09:37 highest_cubist_thrills; "so here it is, the 10 second voiceover that ruined a month of my life"
09:38 highest_cubist_thrills; it used to a few days in the stocks would put a person back on track
09:38 highest_cubist_thrills; not our natalie, she simply has no remorse
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09:50 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/30/man-out-on-bond-for-gun-charge-found-with-loaded-gun-at-seatbelt-enforcement-checkpoint-in-waukegan/
09:50 TR Bot; Man out on bond for gun charge found with loaded gun at seatbelt enforcement checkpoint in Waukegan
09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; 38:37 she talks about how being constantly accused of being truscum has an effect similar to brainwashing (it doesnt take though)
09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; (at least with her it doesnt take)
09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre going to brutally convince someone that theyre horrible and dont deserve their accomplishments because they need to become a good person for a change
09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and they end up believing you
09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; you have an ethical obligation to either be right, or at least have tried your fucking damnedest to be right
09:56 highest_cubist_thrills; otherwise how are you different from eugene landy
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09:56 highest_cubist_thrills; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Landy#Legacy
09:56 TR Bot; Eugene Landy - Wikipedia
09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; i suppose in fairness, landy was not a mob
09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; and you cant say a group of people are a SINGLE unethical therapist
09:58 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre only EMULATING one 3000th of an unethical therapist
09:58 highest_cubist_thrills; and in a democracy, that sort of two fingers up at ethical considerations should be possible after all
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; 3000 mobsters > an uncountable (probably insignificant) group of "ethicists"
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; so thats no problem
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; at least its not unsurmountable
10:02 TR News; Vaccination/innoculation is very important, but it seems to have been warped into a lucrative, high-end market (for the rich) with many unethical patents. The same happened with plastic surgery (not 'repairing' people with defects or after accidents) and hair removal (some people with chromosome issues grow think hair on the face, making it harder to socialiase and get jobs). Money corrupts science and medicine.
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10:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
10:03 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 2nd, 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_2nd_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_2nd_2022.gmi
10:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 2nd, 2022
10:03 highest_cubist_thrills; cancel culture isnt medicine
10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; in medicine, the dosage is part of the cure
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10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; you dose carefully so you Do No Harm
10:04 matteobin; Good morning everyone!
10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; with poison you dont have to be so careful
10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; with poison your only concern is that the dose is Strong Enough
10:04 highest_cubist_thrills; its pretty obvious which side of things cancel culture is on
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Well, I keep telling schestowitz[TR] to get rid of that butt plug, mjg59_
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; if you start by baning one person for reason x
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; and it's not due to spam
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; then the slippery slope si there
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; we don't have anyone banned
10:05 highest_cubist_thrills; how often does a good doctor try to poison someone
10:05 schestowitz[TR]; harolp
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; harold shipman
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; \what's the "ski" in the US
10:06 matteobin; Have you heard of Debian decision regarding non-free firmware in the installer?
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; who also did the same?
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; dr. death?
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: yes, it's no big deal
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; fewer hoops to jump through
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; actually dr death is a legitimate counter example
10:06 schestowitz[TR]; at least debian voted NOT to issue statement on RMS
10:06 matteobin; I was against it.
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; but that was with consent of the patient
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; and voted to try to facilitate systemd alts
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; not that anything was done on it sfaterwards
10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; Have you heard of Debian decision regarding non-free firmware in the installer? <- they cancelled everyone that was in favour of keeping it out
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; it was two terms ago (Hartman)
10:07 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman
10:07 TR Bot; Harold Shipman - Wikipedia
10:07 matteobin; The voting was right, I was just talking about my POV.
10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; in fairness free firmware is an extremely difficult battle
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; i forgot the surname of dr death
10:08 matteobin; I like the hoops I had to do, because they reminded me of the issue that is NON-FREE hardware.
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; searched the shipman article for sky and ski
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; the two most impossible battles that free software has faced are probably free firmware and the death of free software.
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; kevorkian.
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; ah, right
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; jack kevorkian
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; another east european name
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; who is now dr dead
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; not ski
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think kevorkian was a bad doctor
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian
10:08 TR Bot; Jack Kevorkian - Wikipedia
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; dnr lets people die.
10:08 matteobin; Anyway, I didn't want to interrupt you.
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; Armenian
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; kevorkian just makes it faster and less painful.
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: no, you're not
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; you are on topic
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; we are not
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> Anyway, I didn't want to interrupt you. <- i it was a worthy interruption
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; i see some trolls try to weaponise the debian GR to make snide remarks re FSF
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; which is revealing
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; as if software freedom is not "the enemy"
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; you know what else is revealing
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; debian is the largest group of cancellers in the entire 3000
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i counted 108 myself.
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; someone from gnu counted 117 i think.
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; kevorkian like kardashian
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; i have no idea
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, they too are of armenian descent
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; keeping up with the kevorkians :)
10:10 matteobin; I know that firmware is everywhere, but it does not change the fact that non-free hardware is an issue worth fighting for.
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; their dad was the lawyer for oj siumpsion
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; there's something you want in your resume!
10:10 schestowitz[TR]; "my dad helped a murderer get away with it"
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; if the glove does not fit, you must acquit!
10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; there's something you want in your resume! <- as a defence lawyer, you probably do
10:11 matteobin; Keeping the Debian installer the way it was it would have been better, because it highlighted the non-free hardware issue.
10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; Keeping the Debian installer the way it was it would have been better <- imo there was no reason for the installed to take a step backwards
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, I used usb keys
10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan was a step backwards in 2015.
10:11 schestowitz[TR]; to add the missing drivers
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; it was only a problem when the hardware was so bad that no firmware for it existed
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; yet
10:12 matteobin; You started thinking about what really hardware means.
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the guy who made the installer for devuan DEMANDED non-free DRIVERS (non-free firmware is a separate issue)
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; sdrivers/firmware
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; or he would walk
10:12 matteobin; Besides it wasn't so hard to add the firmware on a USB stick.
10:12 schestowitz[TR]; for you
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; i had to teach my wife how to do all that
10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan has never been fully free. theyve talked of a fully free devuan for years
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; but
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; here is the thing?
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; who uses debian
10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i actually used a fully free devuan called gnuinos.
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; who will use debian?
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; the derivs of debian add those bits anyway
10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; debian: the universal sellout
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; debian does not target the joe and jane
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; and never reallllllllllllllllly did
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; thta's why ubuntu exists
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; hmm... restrating barrier
10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; and ubuntu and debian have been cross pollenating for years, like monsanto and... real farmers.
10:13 matteobin; I don't think Debian should be like Ubuntu.
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I don't think Debian should be like Ubuntu. <- nor do we
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; (nor does any sane person imo)
10:14 matteobin; Debian should not by "easy" or "convenient" for the sake of it.
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean those are buzzwords used to push corporate nonsense
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: yeah, we have chromeos
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; windows is easy and convenient. so is apple linux-- i mean mac.
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; sometimes the linux foundation gets them confused
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; to show us what happenss when pushingf comporomise to the max
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; email is gamil
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; browser is gulag
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; webkit is microsoft.
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; desktop lacks bassssic features
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; and you can barely get anything done, even if gentoo is the base for it
10:15 schestowitz[TR]; chromeOS is a cautionary tale
10:15 matteobin; I used NVIDIA firmware and driver on Debian, the non-free ones. However I would have never wanted to change the DSC to reflect a temporary decision made for the sake of convenience.
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; when gnu/linux is made "mainstream" and accomplished almost nothing
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu/microsoft https://techrights.org/2020/05/03/gnuhub-pt-1/
10:16 TR Bot; Microsoft GNU-Hub (Part 1) | Techrights
10:16 matteobin; Debian should be above that.
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's global grep -R | ... |sed Microsoft Google
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; I used NVIDIA firmware and driver on Debian, the non-free ones. However I would have never wanted to change the DSC to reflect a temporary decision made for the sake of convenience. <- theres merit in it being the exception rather than the rule
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; there is another aspect
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; gulag does all that "chromeboot" approval thing
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; so you don't get real choice of hardware
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; but they bought this company that let's you convert old geenral-purpose laptops into chromeos
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot the name. neverware?
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; *lets
10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; imagine if everyone knew how to replaced soldered ics (note: leah can do this. i cannot. mjg can. i could learn but lack the patience)
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverware
10:18 TR Bot; Neverware - Wikipedia
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; "Neverware is a New York City-based technology company and a subsidiary of Google. It is the developer of CloudReady, a distribution of Google's Chromium OS designed to be installed on existing computers (as opposed to Google's commercial version, Chrome OS, which is sold primarily as pre-loaded software on netbooks). Neverware markets CloudReady as a means to reuse older computers (particularly at schools), thus reducing electroni
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; c waste.
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; "
10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; we could just sell ics with unlucked bootloaders then.
10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; unlocked
10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; except for dmca or some bs
10:18 matteobin; I liked the Debian approach on non-free binaries, because even if Stallman is right, sometimes there's value in using an NVIDIA if you do have one.
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; debian has many derivatives
10:18 matteobin; However that should not be seen as a priority.
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; and that's good
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; sometimes there's value in using an NVIDIA <- i agree with the point somewhat, more than the example...
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; it makes work on debian of very high impact
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; inn servers and devices
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; like Rapberry Pis
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; they don't need to make the base OS/template compromsing
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; with free drivers, pushing only-free was a gambit that worked
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; with free firmwre its far more difficult. maybe to the point where it just wont work
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10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but that could also be because of the degree to which the movement is compromised
10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; they don't need to make the base OS/template compromsing <- right
10:20 matteobin; Non-free software sucks, I agree. But would it be better to throw away a piece of functioning hardware? NO! Use it, know the issue with it, but don't change the damn DSC because nowadays firmware is everywhere and it cannot be avoided.
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; mind you, they did not sell out
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; the proposed policy
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; or GR
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; and if youre going to have non-free stuff, at least keep it separate
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do that with the repos.
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; says put it there but warn the user
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; so it's in the ISO
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; not so much with the installer.
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; nothing to download on put on media device
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; the main issue was network cards
10:21 matteobin; It would have been better to have two separate installers.
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; debian is not doing this as a strategy for freedom
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; because to get them going you needed some machine with a network
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; therye doing this to cave to corporate wants
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; for other things maybe not
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but they already sacrificed themselves on the altar of ibm
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; middle ground: debian include a few bits of firmware to get wifi going on widely used chips
10:22 matteobin; With two installers you are forced to make a choice, therefore you must think about it!
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; their soul is sold
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; and then fetches the rest over the nwtwork
10:22 matteobin; Thinking is good!
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; many lapotps have no ethenet port anymore
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; and those that do are sold to people with no ethernet cables
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some routers have no ethernet ports either (anymore)
10:22 matteobin; Sorry for my language, I'm just a bit sad.
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.en.html
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills is a pessimist
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; that's OK
10:23 TR Bot; Avoiding Ruinous Compromises - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; but think of it from that POV
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; many lapotps have no ethenet port anymore <- i think this is an exaggeration
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; RMS is also a pessimist
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i do have one with not ethernet port
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; but that helps accomplish more
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; unlike the "OPEN SOURCCCE HAS WON" crowd
10:23 matteobin; I see his POV.
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; to quote Friedman too (Microsoft)
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; RMS is also a pessimist <- mincer would say he wasnt pessimistic enough
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i would agree
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; "OPEN SOURCCCE HAS WON" crowd <- they did. they trampled free software and everything it stands for
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and sold the movement to corporations
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; "Value your freedom or you will lose it, teaches history."
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; -RMS
10:24 matteobin; I'm sad because this voting to me means that most DDs do not care about open hardware.
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; now the whole operation is basically a sweatshop
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; on another occcasion he said ther battle is a perpetual one
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; and it's expected we can never win
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; I'm sad because this voting to me means that most DDs do not care about open hardware <- most dds dont care about anything at all.
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; debian stopped caring 7 years ago
10:25 matteobin; They would rather have more ignorant users.
10:25 schestowitz[TR]; but just fight to make things less bad than they would do WITHOUT resistance
10:25 schestowitz[TR]; like women fighting for abortion rights
10:25 matteobin; Ignorant != stupid
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; its logo is freedom swirling down a toilet
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; <- former debian user
10:25 matteobin; That's a nice one
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i used to give away free computers with debian on them
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; with the sources.
10:25 schestowitz[TR]; we use debian on 4 machines here
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; im sorry
10:26 schestowitz[TR]; still our daily driver
10:26 matteobin; Debian should educate people both on software and hardware freedom.
10:26 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: it's ok ;-)
10:26 schestowitz[TR]; no need to feel sorry ;-)
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> Debian should educate people both on software and hardware freedom. <- including themselves. but its too late.
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; debian stopped caring about freedom in 2014
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; the die was cast
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; they have always sided with gnome when it was about gnome vs freedom
10:27 matteobin; Removing that extra hoop you had to do to install non-free firmware was an educative process.
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; mate valiantly tried to save people from gnome 3
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; gnome didnt care
10:27 matteobin; Maybe I'm just too strict. Who knows?
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; debian crushed mate
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: thee compromise was not the worst
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> Maybe I'm just too strict. Who knows? <- maybe you have principles for an actual reason
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; it still cautions the users
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; the way UBUNTU USED to do
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; like 10+ years ago
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; when you tried adding graphics drivrs
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> matteobin: thee compromise was not the worst <- sigh, that didnt take long
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot the pertinent details, but remember the GUI a bit
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: there were more than 2 options
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; there usually are, yes
10:28 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: You are probably right, but I'm kinda new to GNU/Linux (about 4 years).
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; this is an ongoing fight
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; gnu/linux is widely used
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; less so on laptops, granted...
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; "ongoing"
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; but fewer people buy them anyway
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; so there are the mainstreamers
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; like chromsOS
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; basically spyware built on GNU/Linux base
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; and then there are those who try to change the (tech) world
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> schestowitz[TR]: You are probably right, but I'm kinda new to GNU/Linux (about 4 years). <- you missed gnu/linux in its full glory
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; those are the ones who scold at firefox
10:29 matteobin; I've moved to GNU/Linux because I wanted to change the world for the better and I realised that IT was just a tool for rich people.
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; it peaked in 2013.
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: it doesn't have to be like that
10:30 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I've moved to GNU/Linux because I wanted to change the world for the better <- its a good start at least
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; they lost their old revenue streams
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; like ICBM with its "legacy" OSes
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; so they have no choice but to embrace the "de facto" OS
10:30 matteobin; And because GNU/Linux is more fun.
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; which for most form factors is GNU/Linux
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; BSD in some sectors
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; so gnu/linux got divided
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; already int eh 90s
10:31 matteobin; C is fun, CLI is fun, suckless is fun: to me it's how computing should be.
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; but the drift widens
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; as some people reject pentagon giants
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; and some people are just market share money market share money market share money market share money market share money
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; BSD in some sectors <- so gnu/linux got divided <- you heard orrectly. bsd went back in time to the 1970s to "divide" gnu/linux
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; those bastards.
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; if anything divided gnu/linux, it was linux.
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: not that
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; I'm talking about community vs corporate control
10:32 matteobin; People do care only about money in IT, it's so sad.
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; not the kernel/OS parts
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; linux was a fatal wrong turn for gnu. they tried to avoid it.
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> I'm talking about community vs corporate control <- well youre right, that did happen
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10:32 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: some are not IT
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; for example, failed biologists
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; who cannot find a job
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> People do care only about money in IT, it's so sad. <- imo anticapitalism is the only hope free software has left
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; or zemlin
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; a branding loser
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; with no relevant qualifications or exprience
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; so they start preying on us
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; and then try to oust the best engineers
10:33 matteobin; And the worst part of it is that they do not want to feel responsible.
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; to make a name for themsleves and carve out territory
10:33 matteobin; Yeah, I was just talking about my work experiences.
10:33 highest_cubist_thrills; youre here for the death of free software, matteobin
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; and then bring other clueless people or, worse, our enemies
10:33 highest_cubist_thrills; definitely look into its life. its life is just as informative in the good parts.
10:34 matteobin; But I'm quite young... maybe things can change?
10:34 matteobin; I'll fight for it.
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; things do change
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; no, he's her for the fight-back
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; few fight back as much as we do
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; we acknolwedge there is a problem adn work to be done
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; I set aside my career for this
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> no, he's her for the fight-back <- its been 100+ years since the october revolution.
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; the fightback can take a long time to come around.
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; this is about tech
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> we acknolwedge there is a problem <- you downplay it for years at a time.
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; not full-blown political mayhem
10:34 matteobin; I'll probably be dead, but I hope I can help.
10:34 schestowitz[TR]; but those are connected
10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> not full-blown political mayhe <- obviously you know nothing about the october revolution.
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; when "dark budget" of pantagon is feeding the tech oppression
10:35 matteobin; I'm not interested in having a career in non-free software.
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; *pentagon
10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I'm not interested in having a career in non-free software. <- good call. it would only suck.
10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; do you code?
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; I need to read more about it, I know what it is
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; a friend of mine bought a book on it
10:35 matteobin; However I do need a job and I don't know much else to do.
10:35 matteobin; I code for work.
10:35 matteobin; Don't laugh
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; october rev. had nothing to do with tech
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; they overthrew the tsar and created a workers democracy, which stalin destroyed.
10:36 matteobin; I'm a full stack web developer at the moment.
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; but it was about worker-controlled society, to an extent
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; so some parallels do exist
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; you might as well refer to the american revolution as "mayhem"
10:36 matteobin; I'm trying to change job.
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; and the s/w community can run the 'farms'
10:36 matteobin; I've refused several positions because of Windows.
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I code for work. <- but you code though
10:36 matteobin; At least, with my current change I can use Debian an a secondary HD.
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; I'm a full stack web developer at the moment. <- so, server side too?
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: windows reemote?
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; or youw own machine
10:37 matteobin; Yes.
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; a company that force a PROGRAMMER to use Windows does not get tech
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; *forces
10:37 highest_cubist_thrills; cool, what do you code in for the server side?
10:37 matteobin; Most companies, at least in Italy, use Windows.
10:37 matteobin; I code in PHP mostly, a bit of Go.
10:38 matteobin; But I would like to work more with C.
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; starstreak loves go
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; she also likes c
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i coded in php but not since they revamped it
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; not just in Italy
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; but ggood companies allow gnu/linux
10:38 matteobin; I both use Windows and Debian for work.
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; esp. for tech staff
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; even GAFAM
10:38 matteobin; Good companies are rare.
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; except Microsoft
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: and pay little
10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; matteobin you can code, so you can fight. but most people have stopped fighting
10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; they forgot what its about
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; proportionally
10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; they defend the software license but not the thing the license exists to serve.
10:39 matteobin; Besides what's the use of Debian, when you use Microsoft Teams? :D
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; but the total number of people ffighting is still high
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's just that we're taken away by so-called 'newbs'
10:40 schestowitz[TR]; who never got taught freedom
10:40 schestowitz[TR]; hence the efforts to discredit and marginalise FSF, RMS...
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; or shills who pretended to care
10:40 schestowitz[TR]; "oooh,,, shinny... chromeOS... it's NOT WINDOWS"
10:40 matteobin; I don't use WhatsApp. My company does not like it, but it cannot force me to do it.
10:40 schestowitz[TR]; "ohhh, let's buy a MAC... to PUNISH Microsoft"|
10:40 matteobin; *use it.
10:41 schestowitz[TR]; spme companies want "apps"
10:41 schestowitz[TR]; and give you "free" phone
10:41 matteobin; Life is hard and difficult, but I will try to fight for Free Software.
10:41 schestowitz[TR]; so they can bother you 24/7
10:41 schestowitz[TR]; for 'free'
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I don't use WhatsApp. <- saying no to software that doesnt care about your freedom is the primary mechanism of fighting for free software
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; the secondary mechanism is writing free software
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do both.
10:42 matteobin; I've set up a XMPP server for friends and family. The same foes for email and VoIP.
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; nice
10:43 TR News; UK blind to new immune-evasive Covid variants creating perfect storm for devastating wave https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-covid-variant-omicron-new-wave-b2183934.html
10:43 TR Bot; UK blind to new immune evasive Covid variants creating perfect storm for devastating wave | The Independent
10:43 mjg59_; highest_cubist_thrills: I think "Advocating for software freedom" and "Helping people write free software" ought to fall into that space
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: I think "Advocating for software freedom" <- i lump this in with the first mechanism
10:43 matteobin; But sometimes I have to do bad things for my company.
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; "Helping people write free software" <- and this with the second
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> But sometimes I have to do bad things for my company. <- companies are like that sometimes
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; if you can move away from that company all the better
10:44 matteobin; WordPress sites with Google Analytics.
10:44 matteobin; :(
10:44 matteobin; I'm looking... ;)
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; you can help people block google at least
10:45 TR News; [Old] "We are happy to announce the Radxa Zero, a new member of our SBC family." https://forum.radxa.com/t/introduce-the-radxa-zero/6550/5 |
10:45 TR Bot; Introduce the Radxa Zero - Zero Series - Radxa Forum
10:45 matteobin; The people who own those sites want Google! :D
10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; options arent the same thing as freedom. though a nice side effect of freedom (which some people like lennart complain bitterly about) is that freedom tends to create more options.
10:46 matteobin; Thanks for reading me about that Debian decision. I was a bit sad because of it.
10:46 TR News; "The research suggests that 74% of the IT decision makers surveyed have already decentralized their IT structures" https://www.techradar.com/news/more-non-it-workers-say-theyre-having-to-do-it-tasks-at-work-now | Source: TechRadar
10:46 TR Bot; non-IT workers say they're having to do IT tasks at work now | TechRadar
10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; debian has made me sad for the better part of a decade
10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; im used to it
10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; they never made me sadder than they did in 2021.
10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; who knows what kind of bastardly deeds theyll get up to next
10:47 matteobin; Was that because of that Stallman hate letter?
10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah im not a fan of the hate letter
10:47 TR News; instagram https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/business/instagram-suicide-ruling-britain.html | Source: New York Times
10:47 TR Bot; British Ruling Pins Blame on Social Media for Teenagers Suicide - The New York Times
10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; 117 (i counted 108) debian people
10:47 highest_cubist_thrills; more than any other group
10:47 matteobin; I signed the Stallman love letter.
10:48 highest_cubist_thrills; more than gnome, more than ibm (gnome was also very prominent)
10:48 TR News; "how technology and modernity are negatively and chronically affecting our brains and behavior." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/books/review/stolen-focus-johann-hari-the-loop-jacob-ward.html | Source: New York Times
10:48 TR Bot; Why Cant We Pay Attention Anymore? - The New York Times
10:48 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I signed the Stallman love letter. <- youre already a hero then
10:48 highest_cubist_thrills; do you have github account? i mean for anything besides work. sometimes work forces psople.
10:49 matteobin; I do, but I don't use it much.
10:49 matteobin; I've sent PR for small projects.
10:49 highest_cubist_thrills; does it have much on it? would you consider moving to another repo?
10:49 TR News; Brazil's election https://text.npr.org/1126161100 | Source: NPR
10:49 TR Bot; Brazil's election could determine the fate of the Amazon after record deforestation
10:49 TR News; Bitcoin crap https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-18686-8 | Source: Nature
10:49 TR Bot; Economic estimation of Bitcoin minings climate damages demonstrates closer resemblance to digital crude than digital gold | Scientific Reports
10:49 matteobin; I use GitHub just because some projects do. I send a PR and that's about it. I don't like it.
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; network effects
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; software has mass
10:50 matteobin; And when I get in contact with the project leader I try to convince that person to leave GitHub.
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; but they dont because network effects
10:51 TR News; Misinformation https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277 | Source: DNA India
10:51 TR Bot; DNA Special: How American outfit IAMC is spreading fake news about Muslim and Dalit genocide in India
10:51 matteobin; The last three are mine: https://github.com/davidjoffe/dave_gnukem/pulls
10:51 TR Bot; requests davidjoffe/dave_gnukem GitHub
10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; roy tells people that projects are leaving github
10:51 schestowitz[TR]; many are
10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; but theyre getting sucked in faster than theyre escaping.
10:51 TR News; "There is a kind of audacity in Major Garrett and David Becker titling their book The Big Truth: Upholding Democracy" https://text.npr.org/1126217354 | Source: NPR
10:51 TR Bot; Facts come to the rescue in the age of gaslighting
10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; so its net bullshit.
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; over time there are more git repos
10:52 highest_cubist_thrills; has webkit succumbed yet? they were planning to.
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; and they go in dirrerent directions
10:52 matteobin; I wouldn't use GitHub for my projects.
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; if the share that go to shithub is less than what it is now
10:52 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I wouldn't use GitHub for my projects. <- thats good
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; thenover time Microsoft loses share
10:52 schestowitz[TR]; until it's codeplex 2
10:52 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> if the share that go to shithub is less than what it is now <- considering your phd is basically in statistics, you should know better.
10:53 TR News; "Local media reported that the men published content related to Hong Kong independence" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/national-security-police-arrest-2-hong-kong-men-for-allegedly-publishing-seditious-social-media-posts/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
10:53 TR Bot; National security police arrest 2 Hong Kong men for allegedly publishing seditious social media posts - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
10:53 TR News; "A hearing date has not yet been fixed." https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/29/2-hong-kong-speech-therapists-apply-to-challenge-conviction-over-seditious-childrens-books/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
10:53 TR Bot; 2 Hong Kong speech therapists apply to challenge conviction over 'seditious' children's books - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
10:53 highest_cubist_thrills; let me know when youre not making much of a rounding error
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the projects that are hostages of github are the ones the movement relies on
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; its nice that some new stuff is being built elsewhere
10:54 matteobin; Actually I don't like git web front-ends
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and in the longrun that will help if those projects are not hijacked too
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> Actually I don't like git web front-ends <- i dont like the web at all
10:55 matteobin; There are cool websites. How about this one: https://www.amigapage.it/index.php?op=v&pl=commenti&id=N20092022-2&page=1 :D
10:55 TR Bot; Amigapage- Sito italiano dedicato ad Amiga
10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; if the web ceased to exist id much rather use alternatives.
10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; oh there are some very cool websites
10:56 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: https://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/report-dna-special-how-american-outfit-iamc-is-spreading-fake-news-about-muslim-and-dalit-genocide-in-india-2989277 is misinformation, or it is describing misinformation?
10:56 TR Bot; DNA Special: How American outfit IAMC is spreading fake news about Muslim and Dalit genocide in India
10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; its just the web is never going to stop trying to suck
10:56 TR News; "The High Court is expected to hand down a ruling on those disputes on Friday" https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/28/hong-kong-media-tycoon-jimmy-lai-appeal-against-failed-bid-to-block-police-from-searching-his-phones/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
10:56 TR Bot; Hong Kong media tycoon Jimmy Lai appeals against failed bid to block police from searching his phones - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
10:56 TR News; "Why it matters: News organizations go to great lengths to prevent the government from seeing their communications" https://www.axios.com/2022/09/30/trump-maggie-haberman-phone-records | Source: Axios
10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; its like a rich uncle that wont stop trying to pay you for...
10:56 TR Bot; Trump threatened to go after Maggie Haberman's phone records: new book
10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; anyway
10:57 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: what are you, racist or something?
10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; he used to be extremely racist (not really, afaik)
10:58 TR News; "The information was shared on Twitter by Iranian journalist and activist Masih Alinejad" https://www.firstpost.com/world/iran-woman-arrested-for-having-breakfast-without-wearing-hijab-11362271.html | Source: Firstpost
10:58 TR Bot; Iran: Woman arrested for having breakfast without wearing hijab
10:58 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I'm saying that you just made an unclear statement and I'm asking what you actually meant
10:59 TR News; Software Patents ... attempts from the back door's Trojan horse https://www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2022/09/27/recently-introduced-bill-would-revise-patent-subject-matter-eligibility-framework/?slreturn=20220902185510 | Source: ALM
10:59 TR Bot; Introduced Bill Would Revise Patent Subject Matter Eligibility Framework | New York Law Journal
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 64.33
11:00 highest_cubist_thrills; thoughts about the movement https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f74L2hRZE1Y
11:00 TR Bot; John Cleese Offered To Kill His Mom To Cheer Her Up | CONAN on TBS - Invidious
11:01 TR News; "In this guide, we will cover how to use conditional statements in the bash script" https://www.linuxbuzz.com/use-conditional-statements-if-else-in-bash-script/ | Source: Linux Buzz
11:01 TR Bot; How to Use Conditional Statements (if-else) in Bash Script
11:02 TR News; "The latest and great version of the Linux kernel has been released with Linux 6.0 out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/linux-kernel-60-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:02 TR Bot; kernel 6.0 is out now | GamingOnLinux
11:05 TR News; Pro Publica talks about "trafficking", does not mention it bags bribes from Bill Gates, who was enabling underage sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein https://www.propublica.org/article/pig-butchering-scams-raided-cambodia-apple-trafficking
11:05 TR Bot; Alleged Cambodian Pig Butchering Scam Operations Raided ProPublica
11:05 TR News; "Drones are pretty common in the electoronics landscape today" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/winged-drone-gets-forward-flight-capability/ | Source: Hackaday
11:05 TR Bot; Drone Gets Forward Flight Capability | Hackaday
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; "this is all lilys fault"
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; "lily alba"
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; "fuck her dreams"
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:28 TR News; "Google, Amazon and Apple are all duking it out for supremacy in the spy home space." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/homebrew-led-strips-that-are-homekit-compatible/ | Source: Hackaday
11:28 TR Bot; LED Strips That Are HomeKit-Compatible | Hackaday
11:31 TR News; iophk: DistroTube "avoids even mentioning the OEM monopoly; until vendors are allowed to sell with distros pre-installed, no one will be able to walk into a store and buy an off-the-shelf computer with GNU/Linux" https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/linux-must-mimic-windows-to-become:c
11:31 TR Bot; Linux Must Mimic Windows To Become Popular
11:31 TR News; microsoft windows tco https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/6-windows-computer-habits-you-need-to-stop-avvRw5e9k48z
11:31 TR Bot; 6 Windows computer habits you need to stop - Which? News
11:37 psydruid; https://wccftech.com/amd-b650-motherboard-prices-msi-budget-friendly-starting-at-199-usd/
11:37 TR Bot; Budget & Mainstream Friendly AMD B650 Motherboards Prices Revealed, Starting at $199 US
11:38 psydruid; "Hardware must become expensive for it to be considered budget"
11:38 TR News; (NEW): GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/GNU_Linux_Libre_6_0_Kernel_Released.gmi
11:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs
11:40 TR News; "i wonder what any of this has to do with tech rights" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2004:08:38
11:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022
11:41 TR News; "shuttleworth claimed he didn't think switching to systemd was a good idea, but didn't stop ubuntu from doing so" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011022.html#tOct%2001%2018:42:42
11:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 01, 2022
11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; i got a laptop for 300 new once, but there you have a mobo thats 200
11:41 TR News; ""Insecure Apps" Like Google gives a fuck about your security." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2005:08:14
11:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022
11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess different budget budgets are budget
11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; it had a touchscreen. it wasnt a netbook. it was larger. and had a touchscreen.
11:42 TR News; "desperately need to hire a designer" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-021022.html#tOct%2002%2008:10:50
11:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 02, 2022
11:42 highest_cubist_thrills; /amd-b650 <- yeah, amd
11:43 highest_cubist_thrills; we make utter garbage. then we bribe people you know.
11:43 highest_cubist_thrills; then we overcharge. whats not to like
11:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont need to buy amd. i can just pay michael larabel directly for spouting bullshit.
11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; thats where the money is going anyway
11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; this may sound pro-intel. fuck intel. i hope they die.
11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; they both make garbage and the sooner both go to hell, the better
11:44 TR News; "The DA1470x is a BLE 5.2 SoC combining an Arm Cortex M33 processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
11:44 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/pro-dev-kit-features-da1470x-ble-socs-for-portable-iot-devices/ )
11:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but i have no use for amd because its unusable shit.
11:44 TR News; "NVIDIA have done another new release to their developer-focused Vulkan Beta driver with 515.49.19 out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/nvidia-vulkan-beta-driver-5154919-is-out-now-driver-51576-causing-problems/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:44 TR Bot; Vulkan Beta driver 515.49.19 is out now, driver 515.76 causing problems | GamingOnLinux
11:45 highest_cubist_thrills; its not hardware. its premium e-waste.
11:45 TR News; (NEW): Is your old computer obsolete, or is it a Linux opportunity? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Is_your_old_computer_obsolete_or_is_it_a_Linux_opportunity.gmi
11:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Is your old computer obsolete, or is it a Linux opportunity?
11:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i prefer discount e-waste. wait until someone is disgusted, and give them back some of the money they lost on that bullshit.
11:46 highest_cubist_thrills; no ones happy-- but everyone is less miserable that way.
11:46 TR News; LOL. How to get BOTH Google and Microsoft to spy on you while you are using PROPRIETARY software. https://www.dignited.com/100680/how-to-install-visual-studio-code-chromebook/
11:46 TR Bot; to install Visual Studio Code on your Chromebook - Dignited
11:46 highest_cubist_thrills; thats more than amd can say for their approach.
11:46 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck you, amd.
11:47 highest_cubist_thrills; please die
11:47 highest_cubist_thrills; /me asked nicely
11:47 TR News; "Typically, the audio coming out of your camera is not of the greatest quality." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/camera-mounted-stereo-mic-is-fluffy-and-capable/ | Source: Hackaday
11:47 TR Bot; Stereo Mic Is Fluffy And Capable | Hackaday
11:48 highest_cubist_thrills; intel started the same way as amd-- as a relatively generic brand selling someone elses design :)
11:48 highest_cubist_thrills; i think thats funny. whats less funny is they still exist.
11:50 TR News; "The Queens final act of service to the nation was to selflessly buy the economy one last fortnight" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/02/britannia-unhinged-uks-return-trickle-down-economy-suicide | Source: Common Dreams
11:50 TR Bot; Opinion | Britannia Unhinged: UK's Return to Trickle Down Economy is Suicide | Gwynne Dyer
11:52 TR News; "Having compressed air available in a workshop can be extremely useful." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/a-compressor-of-compressors-breaks-the-noise-barrier/ | Source: Hackaday
11:52 TR Bot; Compressor Of Compressors Breaks The Noise Barrier | Hackaday
11:53 TR News; "Necessity is the mother of invention" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/hackaday-links-october-2-2022/ | Source: Hackaday
11:53 TR Bot; Links: October 2, 2022 | Hackaday
11:56 TR News; "A court in India has granted what appears to be the most aggressive site-blocking injunction in the history" https://torrentfreak.com/court-blocks-13445-pirate-sites-proactively-to-protect-one-movie-221003/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:56 TR Bot; Blocks 13,445 'Pirate' Sites Proactively to Protect One Movie * TorrentFreak
11:56 TR News; "The RIAA has booked a landmark victory against YouTube-ripper Yout.com." https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-thwarts-youts-attempt-to-declare-youtube-ripping-legal-221002/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:56 TR Bot; Thwarts Yout's Attempt to Declare YouTube-Ripping Legal * TorrentFreak
11:57 TR News; "election deniers" and "conspiracy theory" lending to the idea that proprietary, back-doored voting machines must never be questioned https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/03/debunking-the-latest-2020-conspiracy-theory-from-a-leading-trump-election-denier/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:57 TR Bot; the Latest 2020 Conspiracy Theory from a Leading Trump Election Denier - CounterPunch.org
11:58 TR News; When Bush steals the election the media moans about rigged voting machines. But now we just have "nazis" and "conspiracy theorists" not trusting those same machines?
11:59 TR News; "You can achieve a lot with a Dremel." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/making-a-handheld-nes-by-turning-dip-chips-into-qfn/ | Source: Hackaday
11:59 TR Bot; A Handheld NES By Turning DIP Chips IntoQFN? | Hackaday
11:59 TR News; 3D Scanning Is Over A Century Old https://hackaday.com/2022/10/02/in-a-way-3d-scanning-is-over-a-century-old/ | Source: Hackaday
11:59 TR Bot; A Way, 3D Scanning Is Over A Century Old | Hackaday
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12:04 psydruid; Intel can still reinvent itself by going back to its manufacturing roots, but I don't think there's any such option for AMD
12:04 psydruid; so they'll have milk it while it lasts
12:05 psydruid; and with fewer systems sold they'll be jacking up prices
12:08 highest_cubist_thrills; give me a button and ill nuke twitter off the planet right now
12:09 highest_cubist_thrills; boom
12:09 highest_cubist_thrills; its got to go
12:10 highest_cubist_thrills; its worse than the fucking scientologists
12:12 highest_cubist_thrills; twitter is the mafia in digital form
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; saudi-owned
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; ans weaponised by KSA too
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; against journalism and such
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; also has moles inside the company
12:13 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not really why its like that though
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; to rot out users
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; KSA 'dissidents'
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; like people who want voting rightde
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; *rights
12:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean im sure thats a facet of its existence
12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but not the bulk of its reality
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; *rat out
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, twitter is collapsing
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; and its further acceleated now
12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; and as a facet thats bad enough
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; I covered this before
12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; anyway, twitter is collapsing <- and its further acceleated now <- youre so naive
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; Facebook is now "meta" and "metaverse
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; read: losing billions
12:14 highest_cubist_thrills; itll happen. you always exaggerate this.
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; selling hype to keep shareholders around
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; nol, I was right about twitter
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; and a whistleblower vindicated me
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; prior to it, the musk dispute did too
12:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean oliva is a whistleblower
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; but you want to assert I was wrong
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; without showing evidence for it
12:15 schestowitz[TR]; I didn't say "twitter will be bankrupt in 2022"
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; look at stadia
12:16 highest_cubist_thrills; well, heres what i ACTUALLY said
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; or "silverlight"
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; they never admitted it was dying
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; but I called them out on it early
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; anyway..
12:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i said youre naive. i said (yes) it will happen. and i said you always exaggerate this.
12:16 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what i said.
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; posting daily links n now
12:16 schestowitz[TR]; biab
12:17 highest_cubist_thrills; everything you dont like you say its dying.
12:17 highest_cubist_thrills; its wishful fantasy thinking.
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; and very often it DOES
12:17 highest_cubist_thrills; not that often.
12:17 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/gnu-linux-libre-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/gnu-linux-libre-6-0/
12:17 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: GNU Linux-Libre 6.0 | Techrights
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; what did I say would die but did not?
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; netflix was another good call btw
12:17 schestowitz[TR]; lots of correct calls
12:18 highest_cubist_thrills; netflix is dead?
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; ying, yes
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; many layoffs
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; profit issues
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; *dying
12:18 highest_cubist_thrills; what did I say would die but did not? <- what is actually dead that you said was dying?
12:18 highest_cubist_thrills; besides, youre missing the point. i said you exaggerate this
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; i did set a deadine for DEATH
12:18 schestowitz[TR]; I said dying
12:19 highest_cubist_thrills; and what was the deadline...
12:19 schestowitz[TR]; aa lot of what I said about rted hat was also very acurate
12:19 schestowitz[TR]; but it took time
12:19 highest_cubist_thrills; red hat is ibm now.
12:19 schestowitz[TR]; I heard from insiders ibm would squash them 18 months later
12:19 schestowitz[TR]; it did happen
12:19 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to links
12:19 MinceR; 03 045824 < DaemonFC> After ruining The Daily Show, Trevor Noah is leaving.
12:19 MinceR; i don't think he ruined The Daily Show
12:19 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/How_to_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_0_on_Ubuntu_22_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/How_to_Install_Linux_Kernel_6_0_on_Ubuntu_22_10.gmi
12:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10
12:19 MinceR; i think Jon Stewart's departure is what ruined The Daily Show
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; unfortunately the worst thing about red hat is still doing us in.
12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; gcc is being taken over.
12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is still manipulating the public.
12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and systemd has enjoyed 7 years of takeover.
12:20 highest_cubist_thrills; not to mentio the utter destruction of frankly, MOST gnu/linux distros
12:21 highest_cubist_thrills; oh except some which (frankly) dont matter.
12:21 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre going to talk about these things dying
12:21 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe talk about how people should protect themselves from their undead corpses.
12:22 highest_cubist_thrills; since i swear it comes down to chestbeating anyway
12:22 highest_cubist_thrills; and chestbeating seems a lot more appropriate in victory than defeat
12:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but i suppose you can make an argument for it in either situation. just look at russia.
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; centos de facto dead
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; fedora dying
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; no community
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; red hat lost popularity
12:23 highest_cubist_thrills; fedora dying <- disputed. but i suspect youre right
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; and its work is treated with suspicvion
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; MANy managers left
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; including 2 CEOs
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; many LAYOFFS
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; and exodus of engineers
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; along with managers
12:23 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
12:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
12:23 highest_cubist_thrills; red hat lost popularity <- theyre a business bueyed by a corporation so powerful, even the holocaust doesnt make customers mad.
12:24 schestowitz[TR]; that did harm IBM
12:24 schestowitz[TR]; both 21 years ago
12:24 highest_cubist_thrills; not enough.
12:24 schestowitz[TR]; (the book)
12:24 schestowitz[TR]; and to this date
12:24 schestowitz[TR]; they don't have a SEC section for "business lost due to PR issues"
12:24 highest_cubist_thrills; im not blaming edwin black. society is clearly insane.
12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; what it will and wont overlook
12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; toejam (hangnail) and autism: big news years later
12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; holocaust denial: huge!
12:25 highest_cubist_thrills; actually engineering and participuting directly in the holocaust itself:
12:26 highest_cubist_thrills; "well, the thinkpad is nice"
12:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean thats lenovo now, but red hat isnt.
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> toejam (hangnail) and autism: big news years later
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> holocaust denial: huge!
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; you could argue the two are connected
12:27 MinceR; the ThinkPad used to be nice
12:27 schestowitz[TR]; through antisemitism
12:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> you could argue the two are connected <- im actually arguing theres a disconnect
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile I see 0 articles about epstein and gates
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; or thighthigh ballmer
12:28 MinceR; then they fucked up the keyboard layout, then they replaced the keyboard with a chiclet keyboard, then they replaced the TrackPoint with a shitty knockoff, got shitty fans and shitty batteries and shitty battery latches
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; they work for the Establishment
12:28 MinceR; and i don't even think that the spring-loaded battery latches are cheaper
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; like the troll here
12:28 MinceR; oh yeah, they also removed the lid latch
12:28 schestowitz[TR]; also works for the Establishment
12:28 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah the establishment can do what it wants. its the revolutionaries that must pay dearly-- so say the ancoms.
12:29 MinceR; and they probably don't even have user-replaceable batteries anymore
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; they just use the brand
12:29 highest_cubist_thrills; hardware is generally lower quality than it was 5 or 10 years ago
12:29 highest_cubist_thrills; that 300 laptop i had was great as it happens
12:29 schestowitz[TR]; people want, cheap, fast
12:29 highest_cubist_thrills; but it felt like it was made of cardboard.
12:30 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
12:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
12:30 highest_cubist_thrills; people want, cheap, fast <- and they pick two
12:30 highest_cubist_thrills; the other one is "good"
12:30 highest_cubist_thrills; but people are bound to pick cheap and fast when society is designed to leech all their time and money
12:31 highest_cubist_thrills; until cheap and fast is all most people can afford
12:31 TR News; GNU Linux-libre 6.0-gnu (-ETOOSIXY) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2022-10/msg00000.html
12:31 TR Bot; GNU Linux-libre 6.0-gnu (-ETOOSIXY)
12:32 highest_cubist_thrills; and they probably don't even have user-replaceable batteries anymore <- what, you mean the clock battery?
12:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i doubt thinkpad went sealed capsule like apple
12:33 highest_cubist_thrills; then again its times like that i remember "im still not as cynical as mincer"
12:33 TR News; Most Dreaded Question of the Day gemini://eggler.smol.pub/most-dreaded-question-of-the-day
12:33 MinceR; the firmware is probably fucked up in all uefi laptops
12:34 MinceR; as it all descends from tianocore
12:34 highest_cubist_thrills; the firmware is probably fucked up in all uefi laptops <- redundant imo
12:34 MinceR; i mean, even for a uefi implementation
12:34 TR News; "The fewer materials I posses the more cognizant I become of their hollow nature." gemini://dk.smol.pub/1664753729
12:34 MinceR; i doubt the spec says "you must crash before letting the user enter setup if you see an efivar you don't like"
12:34 psydruid; the destruction of most gnu/linux distributions was the goal
12:35 TR News; "Last year I decided to read Doom's source code to learn how to organize big C projects. Even though my exploration of doom's source code was short I learned a lot from that experience and also made me realize some things that I never thought about Video Game preservation." gemini://djpro.smol.pub/03102022-preserva
12:35 MinceR; "how to organize big C projects" -> write them in C++
12:35 highest_cubist_thrills; unquestionably extremely fucked insecure
12:35 highest_cubist_thrills; uefi
12:35 MinceR; :>
12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; <psydruid> the destruction of most gnu/linux distributions was the goal <- of course
12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but "gnu/linux" is dying when when actually is?
12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; no
12:36 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is dying when theyre going through the millionth iteration of a familiar cycle? yes!
12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; the sun dies tonight!
12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; and then in the morning, it is born!
12:37 MinceR; sun died when it was bought by oracle
12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is like tinkerbell. if you stop believing, its little light starts to fade and flicker
12:37 highest_cubist_thrills; at least until they throw some more corpses on the fire, then its bright and shiny again
12:38 psydruid; it's like the renaissance, but it happens every day
12:38 psydruid; exciting times are ahead of us
12:39 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> sun died when it was bought by oracle <- and my point is, the worst thing about sun is still with us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)
12:39 TR Bot; Java (programming language) - Wikipedia
12:39 MinceR; also CDDL
12:39 highest_cubist_thrills; which is why roys little funeral for all his enemies is so masturbatory and pointless.
12:39 MinceR; also known as "here we declare in writing that slowlaris can't compete with Linux"
12:39 highest_cubist_thrills; it accomplishes nothing
12:39 MinceR; also, java will still be with us if oracle dies as long as MICROS~1 survives
12:40 MinceR; since MICROS~1 Visual Java also exists
12:40 highest_cubist_thrills; <psydruid> exciting times are ahead of us <- for now, we live in interesting ones
12:40 MinceR; (they call it "C#")
12:40 highest_cubist_thrills; MICROS~1 Visual Java <- i just threw up in my mouth a little
12:41 MinceR; :>
12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; the worst thing about red hat is still with us
12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; the worst thing about microsoft
12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; is now github
12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; and when that goes
12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; it will be even worse
12:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but it has to-- the longer it stays, the worse it will be when it goes
12:45 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hemingway
12:45 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hemingway
12:45 psydruid; the worst thing about red hat is that it still exists
12:45 highest_cubist_thrills; muriel?
12:45 MinceR; o mennen mylar muriel
12:50 highest_cubist_thrills; The initial review in the Sunday Telegraph described it as "among the greatest works of imaginative fiction of the twentieth century"
12:51 highest_cubist_thrills; that was in the 50s, and hemingway died at 61 in 1961 (born 1899)
12:51 highest_cubist_thrills; my guess is he knows what a hobbit is, or at least the authors name.
12:51 MinceR; :)
12:51 highest_cubist_thrills; its still funny though
12:52 highest_cubist_thrills; only took 50 years for jk rowling to rip it off too
12:52 highest_cubist_thrills; nice
12:52 highest_cubist_thrills; (i enjoyed her version a lot more. except for the scenes with ian mckellan, which were never part of the books for obvious reasons)
12:54 highest_cubist_thrills; still it was nice of tolkien to lay so much of the groundwork for her
12:54 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad he couldnt also explain what a basilisk was
12:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess he wanted to give her a chance to learn from her own mistakes
12:58 TR News; (NEW): 5 Great GUI Apps for Visual Disk Usage in Linux, Ubuntu [With Bonus] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/5_Great_GUI_Apps_for_Visual_Disk_Usage_in_Linux_Ubuntu_With_Bon.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/5_Great_GUI_Apps_for_Visual_Disk_Usage_in_Linux_Ubuntu_With_Bon.gmi
12:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines 5 Great GUI Apps for Visual Disk Usage in Linux, Ubuntu [With Bonus]
12:58 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing is a particularly vicious form of character assassination which amounts to psychological rape. It is manipulative, dishonest, and excessive.
12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; character assassination
12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; psychological rape
12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; manipulative
12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; excessive
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.68
12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; better than therapy, mjg: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm
12:59 TR Bot; Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood
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12:59 highest_cubist_thrills; years of analysis and treatment in one easy to swallow pill.
13:00 highest_cubist_thrills; courtesy of one of the worlds most beautiful trans women
13:00 highest_cubist_thrills; (and smartest)
13:01 highest_cubist_thrills; oh look, its NOT 2022 and you CAN use rape as a metaphor for other kinds of abuse
13:01 highest_cubist_thrills; how. about. that.
13:02 highest_cubist_thrills; granted jo freeman was probably drawn and quartered by woke twitter shitlords years ago
13:02 highest_cubist_thrills; shes probably a terf too, and im not generally sympathetic to them
13:12 highest_cubist_thrills; " I have been watching for years with increasing dismay as the Movement consciously destroys anyone within it who stands out in any way. "
13:12 highest_cubist_thrills; thought policing, for any good cause, leads to people stepping on each other to be uniform.
13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; you better get that cookie cutter just right, because youre going to be stuck with a fuckload of it for years to come
13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; if its impotent and self-destructive
13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; youll have mandatory impotence and mandatory self-destruction
13:13 highest_cubist_thrills; so get that template right before you all beat it into each other.
13:15 highest_cubist_thrills; [trashing] "is not disagreement; it is not conflict; it is not opposition. These are perfectly ordinary phenomena which, when engaged in mutually, honestly, and not excessively, are necessary to keep an organism or organization healthy and active."
13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/different-circumstances/
13:16 TR Bot; I Would Have Supported the Coup (Under Very Different Circumstances) | Techrights
13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i would have supported the coup if it wasnt just about trashing the founder.
13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; if it was honest, reasonable, and about the good of the movement. it was none of those things.
13:16 highest_cubist_thrills; it was about trashing stallman.
13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and everyone who supported him.
13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and everyone who supported the ideas.
13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; basically it was about destroying free software.
13:17 highest_cubist_thrills; whats left is open source-- the fake corporate version of free software that hates your freedom.
13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what trashing stallman got us.
13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; funny, because when eich was trashed, the same thing happened to mozilla.
13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; when torvalds was trashed, the same thing happened to linux.
13:18 highest_cubist_thrills; its almost like this is a predictable pattern of destruction that reasonable people can learn from.
13:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but unreasonable people... well, how are you supposed to appeal to them.
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/
13:21 TR Bot; [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights
13:22 highest_cubist_thrills; roy says mozilla is dying, same thing happened to it and the fsf
13:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know his position on either linux or the fsf at this point
13:23 techuser; highest_cubist_thrills: and then you hate me for hating the evil FSF
13:23 highest_cubist_thrills; my guess its its being revised (which is fine, it probably needs to be)
13:23 highest_cubist_thrills; but hes definitely closer to the fence than ever
13:24 techuser; dual opinions like me on some things?
13:24 highest_cubist_thrills; pretty soon the fence will have its own fence dividing one side of the fence (itself) from the other
13:24 highest_cubist_thrills; this is your half the fence, and this is my half of the fence
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13:25 TR News; (NEW): String Processing in LibreOffice Calc Macro with Examples [Programming] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/String_Processing_in_LibreOffice_Calc_Macro_with_Examples_Progr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/String_Processing_in_LibreOffice_Calc_Macro_with_Examples_Progr.gmi
13:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines String Processing in LibreOffice Calc Macro with Examples [Programming]
13:28 highest_cubist_thrills; "its true that im more powerful than any of them individually, but as a collective they have a terrifying power that they dont seem to be aware of"
13:29 MinceR; hating the evil FSF and attempting to cancel RMS for things he did not say are two different things
13:29 highest_cubist_thrills; hating the evil FSF and attempting to cancel RMS for things he did not say are two different things <- the fsf and the fsf are two different things
13:29 techuser; the letter was about cancelling the rest of the staff too, iirc
13:29 MinceR; also, if you hate the FSF, why do you care who leads it?
13:29 techuser; remove the people, maybe something changes. Or it just disappears.
13:30 MinceR; oh yes
13:30 MinceR; remove the people who occasionally still supported free software, install SJW corporate drones in their places
13:30 MinceR; something will definitely change
13:30 highest_cubist_thrills; if you hate the FSF, why do you care who leads it? <- if this is about dr sixels views
13:30 MinceR; it won't be good for free software, but it will change
13:30 highest_cubist_thrills; he probably hated the fsf that was led by a jew
13:30 highest_cubist_thrills; now he hates the fsf that is led by trans
13:31 highest_cubist_thrills; he wants the fsf that is run by cis white germans. they have that though. its called fsfe and its in berlin ffs
13:31 MinceR; lol
13:31 highest_cubist_thrills; you can never please a nazi that feels down on his luck
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13:32 MinceR; why would a nazi feel down on his luck in 2022 though?
13:32 highest_cubist_thrills; he will always find something to be sad about and he will always blame the fact that completely irrelevant shit is happening that his logic conflates with his situation
13:32 MinceR; nazism is "hip" and "cool" again
13:32 MinceR; though they don't dare call themselves nazis yet
13:33 MinceR; they call themselves "conservatives" for now
13:33 highest_cubist_thrills; in reality, no chapter of the history of the fsf is related to dr sixel making tea with 1 ppm of tea and 999,999 ppm of water
13:33 TR News; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/
13:33 TR Bot; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights
13:33 highest_cubist_thrills; but he swears he knows the connection and hes going to bitch until its resolved
13:33 MinceR; is he also into homeopathy?
13:33 highest_cubist_thrills; no because its unnatural
13:34 MinceR; lol
13:34 highest_cubist_thrills; he believes in water and tea, not water and lgb-tea
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13:34 highest_cubist_thrills; he prefers heteropathy
13:34 MinceR; lol
13:35 highest_cubist_thrills; they don't dare call themselves nazis yet <- he really is kenneth mars in the producers
13:35 highest_cubist_thrills; im a nice person! we arent nazis! heil hitler! please dont tell anyone.
13:37 highest_cubist_thrills; hes really like the daleks-- he wants pure history while pretending the events that created it didnt exist
13:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he wants pure german computing
13:37 highest_cubist_thrills; courtesy of the american census bureau.
13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i know about zuse of course
13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; zuse didnt have a fucking z80 chip
13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the longer he talks the clearer it is that he wants purity, rather than sanity
13:38 highest_cubist_thrills; but the purity he wants is arbitrary and delusional
13:39 highest_cubist_thrills; and sanity only overlaps with his plans for a brief fling before they go their separate ways
13:39 highest_cubist_thrills; he gets as far as "things are crazy" and steps 1 and 2
13:39 highest_cubist_thrills; it all goes to hell from there
13:40 highest_cubist_thrills; most politics are like that. youre going to get fucked, but if youre lucky you get dinner and a movie first
13:40 TR News; Language supporting gender diversity gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-10-03.gmi fine with me, as long as you don't use plurals for a single person
13:41 TR News; AWK the ultimate swiss army knife for data gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/10-03-awk-the-ultimate-swiss-army-knife-for-data.gmi
13:41 TR News; The Ever Present Rumble gemini://thurk.org/blog/575.gmi
13:42 highest_cubist_thrills; "i suppose that when shamings are delivered like remotely administered drone strikes nobody needs to think about how ferocious our collective power might be. the snowflake never needs to feel responsible for the avalanche." joe ronson
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13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; this is why i like the marxists
13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; ancoms read history, then cancel the authors and do whatever
13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; marxists at least try to fit history into a narrative
13:43 highest_cubist_thrills; they incorporate history
13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; history knows that revolutions actually result in destruction and death
13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; ancoms have their little reigns of terror
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13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but then after the blood has spilled everywhere theyre like
13:44 highest_cubist_thrills; "what?"
13:45 highest_cubist_thrills; "dont look at us, we just made this place a lot nicer"
13:46 highest_cubist_thrills; if you havent reframed history 6 different ways before breakfast, youre hardly an ancom.
13:46 highest_cubist_thrills; relevant: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm
13:46 TR Bot; The Tyranny of Stuctureless
13:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i hope she doesnt turn out to be a terf. she probably isnt, but you get used to "we cant have nice things"
13:47 highest_cubist_thrills; and by nice things i mean we cant have people that understand anything we say
13:48 highest_cubist_thrills; because theyve all been beaten into submission by their own closest allies
13:48 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wFBHBSPvZbw
13:48 TR Bot; All She Wants To Do Is Dance - Invidious
13:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i cant stand don henley btw
13:49 highest_cubist_thrills; worse than bono. i like a few eagles songs, i mostly cant stand them either.
13:52 highest_cubist_thrills; "hundreds of people endlessly bashing someone whos already been knocked to the ground, and feeling all the while like theyre 'punching up'"-- natalie wynn
13:55 highest_cubist_thrills; shes been going on for 80 minutes now, and the last 20 minutes is just as good as the rest of it
13:56 TR News; (NEW): Get Ready for Ubuntu MATE Experience on Debian Linux! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Get_Ready_for_Ubuntu_MATE_Experience_on_Debian_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Get_Ready_for_Ubuntu_MATE_Experience_on_Debian_Linux.gmi
13:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Get Ready for Ubuntu MATE Experience on Debian Linux!
13:56 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Android_Leftovers.gmi
13:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
13:57 highest_cubist_thrills; "the demand for an apology itself is often insincere"
13:58 highest_cubist_thrills; of course it is. its just narcissistic abuse.
13:58 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont want an apology, they want you to carry your own cross to the crucifixion.
14:03 highest_cubist_thrills; "in a way, leftist twitter finally accomplished what 4chan, nazis, stalkers and terfs, have been trying and failing to do to me for years"
14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i was worried that stallman was going to kill himself in 2019
14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i didnt think it was a sure thing, but it was a real concern
14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; he didnt
14:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i think a part of him has absolutely died
14:06 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont know if he will ever get that back
14:06 highest_cubist_thrills; probably not in any way we will be able to discern. we can at least hope he feels differently
14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; when youre beaten, attacked, lied to, manipulated, by countless people for long stretches of time, like years
14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; it warps. it creates trauma. it affects. permanently.
14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; there are ways hes been torn apart hes probably still numb to.
14:07 highest_cubist_thrills; he probably cant even tell you exactly how he feels about it.
14:08 highest_cubist_thrills; a lot of people can talk about this based on first-hand experience
14:08 highest_cubist_thrills; funnily enough, they cant tell you how (if at all) it affects stallman
14:08 highest_cubist_thrills; because they dont care.
14:09 schestowitz[TR]; see gnu linux-libre announcemenmt
14:09 schestowitz[TR]; from hours ago
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; suppoerstallman at the bottom
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; lxo gets abused for puting the links there
14:10 schestowitz[TR]; facts are abuse, you see...
14:10 highest_cubist_thrills; These feelings are reinforced when you are isolated from your friends as they become convinced that their association with-you is similarly inimical to the Movement and to themselves. Any support of you will taint them.
14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; Eventually all your colleagues join in a chorus of condemnation which cannot be silenced, and you are reduced to a mere parody of your previous self.
14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; this was written in 1976.
14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; note the next line of text:
14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; It took three trashings to convince me to drop out. Finally, at the end of 1969, I felt psychologically mangled to the point where I knew I couldn't go on. Until then I interpreted my experiences as due to personality conflicts or political disagreements
14:11 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman survived previous trashings
14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; " I felt psychologically mangled to the point where I knew I couldn't go on."
14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; "Until then I interpreted my experiences as due to personality conflicts or political disagreements"
14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; sounds familiar
14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; these arent really new things
14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the web and social media make them seem like new things
14:12 highest_cubist_thrills; this is the dark side of leftism.
14:13 highest_cubist_thrills; and the alt-right knows that, but so does the radical left.
14:13 highest_cubist_thrills; the alt-right points it out because it makes the left look incompetent.
14:13 highest_cubist_thrills; the left points it out because without addressing this, the left will always be a bigger enemy to itself than its worst enemies.
14:14 highest_cubist_thrills; or close enough.
14:15 TR News; Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/
14:15 TR Bot; Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights
14:16 highest_cubist_thrills; "This was communicated so subtly that I never could get anyone to talk about it. There were no big confrontations, just many little slights. Each by itself was insignificant; but added one to another they were like a thousand cuts with a whip." <- 1976
14:17 TR News; epo.org is a load of lies. Horrible.
14:19 MinceR; 03 143814 < highest_cubist_thrills> zuse didnt have a fucking z80 chip
14:19 MinceR; ah, that famous german company known as Zilog.
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "you were being very politely shunned and excluded everywhere you went, and nobody had to put a mark on you (or put your name on a list) because everybody was mirroring the behaviour of everyone else--
14:21 highest_cubist_thrills; if anybody important shunned you then everybody else would do the same. you didnt fit, you would never be part of the community, but to your face they would pretend you were welcome-- or that all you had to do was follow the rules, which wasnt ever exactly true either." <- 2021
14:21 highest_cubist_thrills; the unwritten rule was control and obedience, and mirroring those in control. the written rules were only a cover (an excuse) for the unwritten rule.
14:23 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no such thing as a safe space either
14:23 highest_cubist_thrills; you can get kicked out of the same safe space you rely on to survive
14:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its just one more thing they can take away from you to try to kill you if you offend the gods
14:24 highest_cubist_thrills; https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/
14:24 TR Bot; Is LibrePlanet Safe?
14:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and the gods are petty
14:25 MinceR; it's safe for the corporations
14:25 MinceR; not for you
14:25 highest_cubist_thrills; what a "safe space" really is, is a love-bombing campaign transformed from a toxic relationship phase to a local and ongoing event.
14:25 MinceR; only corporations matter
14:25 MinceR; that's why the "Linux Foundation" kicked out all non-corporate members
14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; it's safe for the corporations <- theyre the only ones who have enough resources to shheild themselves
14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; for everyone else its like being inside the reactor with a flimsy suit made of tinfoil
14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; that's why the "Linux Foundation" <- the linux fraud, you mean
14:26 highest_cubist_thrills; you did use quotes ofc
14:27 TR News; Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teens Suicide https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/
14:27 TR Bot; Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teen's Suicide - Make Tech Easier
14:27 highest_cubist_thrills; only corporations matter <- corporate lives matter
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14:27 MinceR; +
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; "job creationism"
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's the new religion
14:28 techuser; hi
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; hi mate
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; avoid scoial control media
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; it's all shit, all of it
14:29 schestowitz[TR]; irc is better
14:29 techuser; IRC is social too
14:29 techuser; it will be ruined via IRCv3
14:29 matteobin; IRC is great!
14:29 TR News; Rahul of tecadmin has posted LOADS of junk like this lately https://tecadmin.net/how-to-install-net-core-on-macos/
14:29 highest_cubist_thrills; I had survived my youth because I had never given anyone or any group the right to judge me. That right I had reserved to myself. But the Movement seduced me by its sweet promise of sisterhood.
14:29 TR Bot; How to Install .NET Core on macOS TecAdmin
14:29 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> you can get kicked out of the same safe space you rely on to survive
14:29 MinceR; will IRCv3 be incompatible with older clients?
14:29 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: I am trying to understand how ircv3 can ruin it for you
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; it most added non-mandatory features
14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> its just one more thing they can take away from you to try to kill you if you offend the gods
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; so if you lose the connection you can scroll up more
14:30 techuser; bloat IRC
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; /history command
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; blost where
14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; It claimed to provide a haven from the ravages of a sexist society; a place where one would be understood. https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm
14:30 TR Bot; Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; the server?
14:30 techuser; maybe they bring some SJW shit then
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; the client side is the same
14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; " a haven"
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; the server side is still light
14:30 highest_cubist_thrills; s safe space.
14:30 MinceR; afaik storing history on the ircd side is also optional
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; it runs as an OS with about 10 processes in total
14:31 techuser; my IRC friend says in Minecraft they added client-side server banning
14:31 MinceR; and the client side is backwards compatible
14:31 techuser; they can add this shit into IRC as well
14:31 MinceR; what is "client-side server banning"?
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; that's not irc(v3)
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; that's a bor running in irc
14:31 MinceR; minecraft is nonfree
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; TechrightsBot-tr has this functionality too
14:31 MinceR; free irc clients exist, i'm using one right now
14:31 techuser; seems it fetches banned server list from Microsoft server and doesn't let players connect to the listed servers
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; but we've not used it in over a decaded, just experimentally
14:31 MinceR; if they were to add something i disapprove into it, i can fork it
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; banning people who use vulgar words
14:32 techuser; shit code can exist in free software too
14:32 MinceR; techuser: with a free client, such things are avoidable
14:32 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> what is "client-side server banning"? <- client side server banning lets you skip servers that lack features (so im told)
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; any code can exist in it, but you can remove it
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; even linux is getting a deblobified version
14:32 highest_cubist_thrills; large networks that dont consist of a single server may vary in available features
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; one was rleased hours ago
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; gnu linux-libre 6.0
14:32 techuser; when they enforce things like SASL, choices get reduced
14:33 MinceR; we don't enforce SASL
14:33 MinceR; most networks don't enforce SASL
14:33 MinceR; i think even freenode stopped enforcing SASL
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; afaik, SASL can also be enforced with IRCv'1'
14:33 techuser; SASL is a part of IRCv3
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; we never used it
14:33 techuser; but PASS exists in original IRC
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's not relevant to us
14:33 techuser; why do you use ergo ircd
14:33 MinceR; PASS has a different purpose
14:33 MinceR; \_()_/
14:34 techuser; the shittiest IRCd around
14:34 highest_cubist_thrills; linux-libre 6.0 <- they should make a gnu libre that has the ibm crap taken out
14:34 MinceR; it's not IRCX
14:34 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad that includes gcc.
14:34 techuser; moving IRC into embrace, extend and extinguish
14:34 MinceR; it's not even the ircnet ircd
14:34 MinceR; so it's definitely not the shittiest ircd around
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday I checked pissnet
14:34 techuser; they focus on IRCv3 and don't implement necessary stuff like server linking for years
14:34 techuser; because some stupid excuses
14:34 techuser; or they are evil and not stupid
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14:35 MinceR; if you want server linking, use unrealircd
14:35 techuser; I voted for ngIRCd for a network that I administrate, but it seems it isn't updated anymore
14:35 highest_cubist_thrills; "I gave the movement the right to judge me because I trusted it. And when it judged me worthless, I accepted that judgment."
14:36 highest_cubist_thrills; "For at least six months I lived in a kind of numb despair, completely internalizing my failure as a personal one."
14:36 techuser; I think UnrealIRCd will do evil eventually
14:36 techuser; as it is the most used IRCd
14:36 MinceR; then that will be the time to fork it
14:36 MinceR; and there are many others
14:36 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt see a crisis for irc
14:37 techuser; unless it is a SJW attack, most people won't care about forking
14:37 highest_cubist_thrills; concerns about bloat are fair enough
14:37 techuser; SJWs know well how to cancel
14:37 highest_cubist_thrills; bloat kills freedom
14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; irc isnt in the systemd phase where shit stops being optional
14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and no one gives a shit
14:38 MinceR; MICROS~1 tried to take over IRC, that's why IRCX exists
14:38 MinceR; they didn't get far
14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the first counterrevolution is often just a practice run
14:38 highest_cubist_thrills; whats the thing microsoft had before github roy mentions all the time?
14:39 MinceR; codeplex
14:39 highest_cubist_thrills; right
14:39 TR News; ADILNUV Wordo: TOUGH gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-03.gmi
14:39 highest_cubist_thrills; took them at least one more try to take over all the repos
14:39 MinceR; afaik that was their own thing, not a takeover
14:39 MinceR; then they switched to buying corporations to acquire users
14:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the pattern of "use our thing-- fine then we will just buy your thing" is probably established
14:40 MinceR; now it certainly is
14:40 TR News; "In the fortieth episode of the WordPress Briefing, Josepha Haden Chomphosy sits down with special guests Anne McCarthy and Brian Alexander to discuss the Testing Team and how to get started with testing in the WordPress project." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/10/episode-40-all-things-testing-with-special-guests-anne-mccarthy-and-brian-alexander/
14:40 TR Bot; Episode 40: All Things Testing with Special Guests Anne McCarthy and Brian Alexander WordPress News
14:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean github is the ultimate example
14:41 highest_cubist_thrills; how about sysinternals
14:41 highest_cubist_thrills; much smaller example
14:41 MinceR; dunno, i stopped focusing on Backdoors sometime around 2000
14:41 highest_cubist_thrills; lucky, it took me from 2004 to 2007 at least
14:42 highest_cubist_thrills; and i was trying in 2001
14:42 highest_cubist_thrills; being a dos fan i started with tomsrtbt :)
14:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but with dos i could diskcopy a: b:
14:43 highest_cubist_thrills; with tomsrtbt i had no idea how to even copy that non-standard size floppy
14:43 MinceR; i started with red hat linux 7
14:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i still dont know how :)
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14:43 MinceR; i asked for debian install CDs, i got rh install CDs
14:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i bought red hat 6.0 but couldnt install it on my hardware
14:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i asked for debian install CDs, i got rh install CDs <- you were obviously on the naughty list that year
14:44 TR News; "Her familys attorneys have said that in the six months before she died, the 14-year-old showed an interest in 16,300 posts on Instagram by liking, sharing, or saving, with 2,100 of the posts self-harm related" https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/
14:44 TR Bot; Coroner Blames Instagram, Pinterest for London Teen's Suicide - Make Tech Easier
14:44 TR News; "There has been widespread news coverage of the death of Molly Russell, a 14 year old British schoolgirl." https://danielpocock.com/molly-russell-suicide-debian-frans-pop-lucy-wayland-deaths-social-media/
14:44 MinceR; :>
14:44 TR Bot; Molly Russell suicide & Debian Frans Pop, Lucy Wayland, social media deaths
14:45 TR News; Addiction: "She had 5,793 impressions and 2,692 close-ups on Pinterest in that same time frame." https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/
14:45 TR News; "But was her excessive use of social media the fault of the algorithms? Did it lure her into that behavior? Its a hard call." https://www.maketecheasier.com/coroner-blames-instagram-pinterest-teens-suicide/
14:46 TR News; How to make your distro less stable because you lack patience https://9to5linux.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-6-0-on-ubuntu-22-10
14:46 highest_cubist_thrills; We gathered one night for a general discussion on the state of the Movement, and instead found ourselves discussing what had happened to us.
14:46 TR Bot; to Install Linux Kernel 6.0 on Ubuntu 22.10 - 9to5Linux
14:46 highest_cubist_thrills; I learned ... years ago that women had always been divided against one another, self-destructive and filled with impotent rage. I thought the Movement would change all that.
14:46 TR News; (NEW): Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Podman_vs_Docker_What_s_the_Difference.gmi
14:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Podman vs Docker: What's the Difference?
14:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if mjg will ever read this
14:47 highest_cubist_thrills; I never dreamed that I would see the day when this rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism [would be used within the Movement to strike down sisters singled out
14:47 TR News; Lyra V2 open-source audio codec gets faster, higher quality and compatible with more platforms https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/03/lyra-v2-open-source-audio-codec-gets-faster-higher-quality-and-compatible-with-more-platforms/
14:47 TR Bot; Lyra V2 open-source audio codec gets faster, higher quality and compatible with more platforms - CNX Software
14:47 MinceR; if MICROS~1 pays him to, sure
14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; roy could be right, but i think he misses the psychological side of this mostly
14:48 TR News; The EPO has totally lost the plot; it completely neglected its mission in pursuit of money and optics http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/montenegro-marriage-of-corruption/
14:48 TR Bot; [Meme] Lowering the Bar With Nations That Barely Have Any European Patents (Close to Zero) | Techrights
14:48 TR News; The European School The Hague (ESH) is not functioning like its supposed to; people who migrated (seeking a job) along with family members for an EPO position arent pleased (to say the least) and they request if not demand to speak with EPO management http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/
14:48 TR Bot; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights
14:48 MinceR; > rage, masquerading as a pseudo-egalitarian radicalism
14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe mjg only cares about money, but i think he would be driven to do the same for free
14:48 MinceR; it's the angle MICROS~1 found
14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; yes
14:48 MinceR; so it's the angle MICROS~1 uses
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14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; of course
14:48 MinceR; it doesn't matter to them what the excuse is
14:48 highest_cubist_thrills; by any means necessary
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14:48 MinceR; the only thing that matters is leverage
14:49 schestowitz[TR]; aye
14:49 TR News; The EPO has turned into a farcical operation that laughs at the law, abuses its own staff, and lies to both staff and customers in the official Web site http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/epo-not-accountable-2022/
14:49 TR Bot; Members of the Administrative Council of the EPO Are Asked to Summon a Conference of Ministers of the Contracting States Due to Violations of the Law | Techrights
14:49 highest_cubist_thrills; These attacks take different forms. The most common and pervasive is character assassination: the attempt to undermine and destroy belief in the integrity of the individual under attack. Another form is the 'purge.' The ultimate tactic is to isolate her.
14:49 highest_cubist_thrills; exiled in place.
14:49 schestowitz[TR]; there are PR firms that do this
14:49 highest_cubist_thrills; whats amazing about this essay (from 1976)
14:49 schestowitz[TR]; we have a whistleblower who saw it from the inside
14:49 schestowitz[TR]; she said,
14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; is that it got in a time machine in 2015
14:50 schestowitz[TR]; they use "minorities"
14:50 schestowitz[TR]; to protect corporations
14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; took all the ideas from the alt-right
14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; and carried them back in time to the 1970s where they could infect the leftist movements.
14:50 schestowitz[TR]; they sell censorship online... they report journalists for hurting women or minorities... to gag their criticism of corporate abuse
14:50 schestowitz[TR]; that's like a CoC being weaponised or ToS
14:50 highest_cubist_thrills; or of course this has nothing to do with the alt-right. but thats a crazy theory compared to the one with a time machine in it.
14:51 highest_cubist_thrills; "And who do they attack? Generally two categories. . . Achievement or accomplishment of any kind would seem to be the worst crime:
14:51 MinceR; did CoC-s even exist before they were already weaponized?
14:51 schestowitz[TR]; as an aside, the corporate media is controlled by oligarcfhy already...consolidation
14:51 highest_cubist_thrills; when cocs were unwritten rules, were they really cocs?
14:51 schestowitz[TR]; so they get to choose which leas matter
14:51 MinceR; no
14:51 schestowitz[TR]; and which whisteblowers to report for
14:52 schestowitz[TR]; or to burn
14:52 MinceR; you can't point to a document as an excuse if the document doesn't exist
14:52 schestowitz[TR]; report to the source
14:52 schestowitz[TR]; duckduckgo and startpage were never properly exposed as spying operaitons
14:52 schestowitz[TR]; by the "maintream" media
14:52 schestowitz[TR]; they bribe many orgs to help them pretend
14:52 MinceR; you can't have bureaucrats in the role of deciding who gets booted from the project if those roles aren't formally declared
14:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Productivity seems to be the major crime -- but if you have the misfortune of being outspoken and articulate, you are also accused of being power-mad, elitist, fascist, and finally the worst epithet of all: a male-identifier.
14:52 highest_cubist_thrills; not a GENDER TRAITOR!
14:52 MinceR; lol
14:53 highest_cubist_thrills; (race traitor is an actual nazi/white supremacist thing)
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; corporations are people
14:53 MinceR; my friend
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; what genders are corprations?
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; also, what is their life expenctancy?
14:53 highest_cubist_thrills; As I listened to her, a great feeling of relief washed over me. It was my experience she was describing. If I was crazy, I wasn't the only one.
14:53 MinceR; different gender for each corporation for maximum fake diversity
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; criticisng OSI is homophobic
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; OSI is gay
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; I think
14:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's what the president of OSI wanted us to think
14:54 MinceR; "we all think the same, we all believe in the same things, but we are differently colored and that's all that matters"
14:54 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they should register OSI as religion
14:54 highest_cubist_thrills; The result was that most of the women at that meeting dropped out as I had done. Two ended up in the hospital with nervous breakdowns.
14:54 MinceR; "i can't code but i have blue hair"
14:54 schestowitz[TR]; then it's blasphemous to chastise its members
14:54 schestowitz[TR]; an act of intolerance
14:54 highest_cubist_thrills; Although all remained dedicated feminists, none have really contributed their talents to the Movement as they might have.
14:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the real jo freeman is not coming back
14:55 highest_cubist_thrills; With each new story, my conviction grew that trashing was not an individual problem brought on by individual actions; nor was it a result of political conflicts between those of differing ideas, It was a social disease.
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; well, MinceR and I.. and many others are still here
14:55 highest_cubist_thrills; today the disease is known as social media
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; it's not "crazy" to say there were attempted to cancel us. still ongoing
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; by crazed and resourceful stalkers.
14:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but in 1976, it was known as twitter
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; who defame
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; social control media is about control
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; and controllinf the used
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; it wasn't like this originally
14:56 highest_cubist_thrills; The disease has been ignored so long because it is frequently masked under the rhetoric of sisterhood. In my own case, the ethic of sisterhood prevented a recognition of my ostracism.
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; they sought a business model
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; they were losing money
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; see what FB did with cambridge analytics
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; trhry started selling political outcomes
14:56 highest_cubist_thrills; The new values of the Movement said that every woman was a sister, every woman was acceptable. I clearly was not. Yet no one could admit that I was not acceptable without admitting that they were not being sisters.
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; analytica
14:56 highest_cubist_thrills; jo freeman: inclusion is not inclusive
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: this happens here too
14:56 schestowitz[TR]; divide and rule
14:57 highest_cubist_thrills; every woman was a sister, every woman was acceptable. I clearly was not. Yet no one could admit that I was not acceptable without admitting that they were not being sisters.
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; like trying to blackmail me into not reposting daeamonfc
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; and even banning him
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; to split a group that otherwise agrees on tech
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; cleverer people can smell those tactics from a mile
14:57 highest_cubist_thrills; to split a group that otherwise agrees <- idk
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; in twitter I get defamed as rape apologist
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; I barely had sex with women
14:57 highest_cubist_thrills; who here agrees with dfc on tech?
14:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont lie, ive read a couple things he wrote that were okay
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; and yet here we have some sick transphopbic pervert... calling me names
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; "toxic masculinity=" MJG
14:58 highest_cubist_thrills; and yet here we have some sick transphopbic pervert <- i dont think mjg is 2 of those 3.
14:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its amusing when you couch it that way, but not accurate
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; maybe a little exaggerated
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; but no more than he does to us
14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; like he does. yuk yuk uyk
14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; right
14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; no i got it
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; btw,
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; transphopbic rhetoric is a symptom
14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; i call you out on it but i also acknowledge that-- well, as an ironic joke its
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; usually men who try to impress other men
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 146.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 136.50
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; about how machoi they are
14:59 highest_cubist_thrills; <highest_cubist_thrills> like he does. yuk yuk uyk
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; to compensate for things
14:59 schestowitz[TR]; like him being bald and very thin
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; so he goes on and on about how "that other group" is [insult]
15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> usually men who try to impress other men <schestowitz[TR]> to compensate for things <- incel culture is like this
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; I never bothered
15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; they care more about bragging than getting laid, even when they get something to brag about
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; too busy with my 'puter
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; online, trans people are good allies
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; they are very productive
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; they spend a lot of time online
15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; idk, i find computers as frustrating as women
15:00 schestowitz[TR]; to escape hecklers in society
15:00 highest_cubist_thrills; and the latter are a welcome distraction at times
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; depends
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; but anyway, many in gemini are trans
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; many developoers are too
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; because it's an escape
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; escape from people trying to not "miss out"
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; while calling them names
15:02 highest_cubist_thrills; id sooner expect it had more to do with the autism dovetail
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15:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but yeah sure
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; fwiw, I think I know why dmccc name-calls groups
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; his life always sucked
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; beaten up, rejected by parents etc.
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; and now poor and lonely
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; not that it makes race-baiting ok
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; *dmcc - typo
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; brb
15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; you lay into him as ruthlessly as mjg does when you talk like that
15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; i can guess why
15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; only difference is you let him talk and mjg tries to stop that
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; no, he is being racist
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; and it puts peopple off
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; it's not ok
15:03 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah it puts me off
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; but I don't ban, I confront
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; banning means he goes to worse forums
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; where people agree with him on this stuff
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; sorry, got distracted
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; sent message to friend
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; rianne has just sent her application
15:05 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N8mzQKl1LH8
15:05 TR Bot; White privilege - Invidious
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; we needed to thank some people
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, dfc is in a bad situation, it's not an excuse though
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; but I won't ban him
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; we had worse than him
15:06 highest_cubist_thrills; let me know when he ditches his eugenics
15:06 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> we had worse than him <- oh?
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, ages ago
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; lots of terrible trolls
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; crica 2009
15:07 highest_cubist_thrills; /me imagines
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; it was hard to have the channel on without some babysitting
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR was the netkkjop
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; anti-linus groups infested the placer at time
15:07 highest_cubist_thrills; mincer should get an honourary ptsd diagnosis
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; flooding, crashing, throwing the worst text you can imagine
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; to vandalise it
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; some of them orgnaised and coordinated in dedicated anti-linus sites
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; which no longer exist
15:08 highest_cubist_thrills; anti-linus groups <- its probably the blanket. but hes like indiana jones with that blanket.
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; *anti-linux
15:08 schestowitz[TR]; i have that in some old bookmarks, but the links would n not work, unless you use wayback lachine
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15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; were they really anti-linux
15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; or just anti-cola
15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; because the ones i saw were anti-cola
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; we actually are way ahead and left behind the worst trolling
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; the media too clamed down the FUD a bit
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; but mostly because the media is dyiing
15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; lol
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; not because it "calmed" down by choice
15:09 highest_cubist_thrills; _________ is dying
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; look at zdnet.
15:09 schestowitz[TR]; 11+ days, no "linus" article
15:10 schestowitz[TR]; *linus
15:10 schestowitz[TR]; ->*linux
15:10 schestowitz[TR]; tthe only linus article they did last month was rust spam
15:10 schestowitz[TR]; promoting rust
15:10 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft github
15:10 schestowitz[TR]; trying to use his name/status to endorse it
15:10 highest_cubist_thrills; rust is one thing on github that would be just as terrible anywhere else.
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; linus is The Godfather of the Open Source movement, [sic] according to Intels CEO.
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/linus-torvalds-award/
15:11 TR Bot; Intel Treats Linus Torvalds as a Marketing Mascot | Techrights
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; then, in the regioster
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; zdnet's sjvn
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; cited MICROSOFT as endorser of Rust
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; inside Linux
15:11 highest_cubist_thrills; linus-torvalds-award <- do they give this to recognise sellouts, hostages of their own creations, what?
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; and then another person in the Reg (Reuper)( did the same
15:11 highest_cubist_thrills; if its the latter, they could give stallman one
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's like a Microsoft/GitHub PR campaign
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; paid for
15:12 schestowitz[TR]; Intel is all about ME ME ME
15:12 schestowitz[TR]; RMS does nto tolerate "ME"
15:12 schestowitz[TR]; or PSP
15:12 schestowitz[TR]; not playstation portable
15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; mincer: "As long as the standard is vague and utopian, it can never be met. But it can be shifted with circumstances to exclude those not desired as sisters. "
15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; sounds very coc-like. maybe there WAS an unwritten coc
15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; at least in feminism.
15:13 TR News; My last Overwatch 1 highlight ever. LET EM RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM
15:13 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=Fr55L_mQ0TM
15:13 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | My last Overwatch 1 highlight ever. LET EM RIP - Invidious
15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; note it was feminists who introduced the coc to free software.
15:13 highest_cubist_thrills; feminist wiki, wasnt it?
15:14 highest_cubist_thrills; Thus Ti-Grace Atkinson's memorable adage that "sisterhood is powerful: it kills sisters" is reaffirmed again and again.
15:14 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing is not only destructive to the individuals involved, but serves as a very powerful tool of social control. The qualities and styles which are attacked become examples other women learn not to follow -- lest the same fate befall them.
15:14 highest_cubist_thrills; they werent just cancelling stallman, but anyone like him.
15:15 highest_cubist_thrills; "This is not a characteristic peculiar to the Women's Movement, or even to women. The use of social pressures to induce conformity and intolerance for individuality is endemic to American society." <- 1976
15:15 highest_cubist_thrills; "The use of social pressures to induce conformity and intolerance for individuality is endemic"
15:15 highest_cubist_thrills; this was written less than 10 years before the fsf was founded.
15:16 highest_cubist_thrills; "This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and feminism. But underneath are some very traditional ideas about women's proper roles."
15:16 TR News; The ULTIMATE Steam Deck emulation setup is easier than ever! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NEhlY-r_6Uw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/NEhlY-r_6Uw
15:16 TR Bot; The ULTIMATE Steam Deck emulation setup is easier than ever! - Invidious
15:17 highest_cubist_thrills; This standard is clothed in the rhetoric of revolution and freedom, but underneath are some very traditional ideas about workers' and users' proper roles.
15:17 TR News; Debian Accepted mutter 43~beta-3 (source) into experimental https://tracker.debian.org/news/1356285/accepted-mutter-43beta-3-source-into-experimental/
15:17 TR Bot; Debian Package Tracker
15:17 TR News; [GIT PULL] hwmon updates for v6.1 - Guenter Roeck https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/ Source: Guenter Roeck | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221003000230.1008396-1-linux@roeck-us.net/
15:17 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] hwmon updates for v6.1 - Guenter Roeck
15:17 TR News; [GIT PULL] STATX_DIOALIGN for 6.1 - Eric Biggers https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YzpXpalOcvwp+keu@quark/
15:17 highest_cubist_thrills; The quest for "leaderlessness" that the Movement so prizes has more frequently become an attempt to tear down those women who show leadership qualities <- psydruid https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm
15:17 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] STATX_DIOALIGN for 6.1 - Eric Biggers
15:18 TR Bot; Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood
15:18 TR News; Test your Linux system with LTP | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project-ltp Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project-ltp
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15:18 TR Bot; Test your Linux system with LTP | Enable Sysadmin
15:18 highest_cubist_thrills; Many women who have tried to share their skills have been trashed for asserting that they know something others don't. The Movement's worship of egalitarianism is so strong that it has become confused with sameness.
15:18 highest_cubist_thrills; that means standing out would be confused with privilege
15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; and the cure to put the person standing out in their place? making them stand out more.
15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; if they want privilege, we will give them the privilege!
15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; just my interpretation?
15:19 highest_cubist_thrills; "Women who remind us that we are not all the same are trashed because their differentness is interpreted as meaning we are not all equal."
15:19 TR News; "That takes away precious hours, so its no wonder that 58% of US workers believe they can work remotely and finish job tasks on time." https://medevel.com/working-from-home-these-4-tips-will-help-you-to-stay-productive/
15:19 TR Bot; Working from Home? These 4 Tips Will Help You to Stay Productive
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 highest_cubist_thrills; "Trashing only discourages other women from trying to break free of their traditional shackles."
15:21 TR News; 10 Best IntelliJ Themes and Color Schemes To Use in 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-intellij-themes-and-color-schemes/ Source: Ubuntu Pit | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-intellij-themes-and-color-schemes/
15:21 TR Bot; 10 Best IntelliJ Themes and Color Schemes To Use in 2022
15:21 highest_cubist_thrills; heres a blast from the present:
15:21 highest_cubist_thrills; "Once under attack, there is little a woman can do to defend herself because she is by definition always wrong." <- 1976
15:21 highest_cubist_thrills; nothing like cancel culture at all!
15:21 TR News; In proceedings before CIC, IFF obtains website censorship orders from DoT and MTNL https://internetfreedom.in/in-proceedings-before-cic-iff-obtains-website-censorship-orders-from-dot-and-mtnl/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/in-proceedings-before-cic-iff-obtains-website-censorship-orders-from-dot-and-mtnl/
15:21 TR Bot; In proceedings before CIC, IFF obtains website censorship orders from DoT and MTNL
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15:22 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing involves heavy use of the verb "to be" and only a light use of the verb "to do."
15:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "Trashers also tend to use nouns and adjectives of a vague and general sort to express their objections to a particular person."
15:23 highest_cubist_thrills; once again for mjg
15:23 highest_cubist_thrills; "Trashers also tend to use nouns and adjectives of a vague and general sort to express their objections to a particular person."
15:24 highest_cubist_thrills; from jo freeman in 1976, describing how feminists tear each other down and push each other into dropping out (her words) of the movement
15:24 highest_cubist_thrills; "These terms carry a negative connotation, but don't really tell you what's wrong. That is left to your imagination. Those being trashed can do nothing right. Because they are bad, their motives are bad, and hence their actions are always bad."
15:24 highest_cubist_thrills; There is no making up for past mistakes, because these are perceived as symptoms and not mistakes.
15:25 highest_cubist_thrills; The acid test, however, comes when one tries to defend a person under attack, especially when she's not there, If such a defense is taken seriously, and some concern expressed for hearing all sides and gathering all evidence, trashing is probably not occurring.
15:25 MinceR; https://www.oglaf.com/wilyworm/
15:25 TR Bot; The Wily Worm
15:25 highest_cubist_thrills; But if your defense is dismissed with an oft-hand "How can you defend her?"
15:25 highest_cubist_thrills; sarah mei, grand inquisitor, salesforce
15:26 TR News; "This is, of course, not the last word. Deepfake generators will figure out how to use these techniques to create harder-to-detect fake voices. And the deepfake detectors will figure out another, better, detection technique. And the arms race will continue." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/detecting-deepfake-audio-by-modeling-the-human-acoustic-tract.html
15:26 TR Bot; Deepfake Audio by Modeling the Human Acoustic Tract - Schneier on Security
15:28 TR News; (NEW): OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Some_of_the_major_changes_since_ROME_Silver_Candidate.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Some_of_the_major_changes_since_ROME_Silver_Candidate.gmi
15:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate
15:28 TR News; (NEW): ANAVI Macro Pad 10 - Knobs input devices run KMK firmware on Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/ANAVI_Macro_Pad_10_Knobs_input_devices_run_KMK_firmware_on_Rasp.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/ANAVI_Macro_Pad_10_Knobs_input_devices_run_KMK_firmware_on_Rasp.gmi
15:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines ANAVI Macro Pad 10 - Knobs input devices run KMK firmware on Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding)
15:29 TR News; (NEW): Streaming with Linux: TIDAL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Streaming_with_Linux_TIDAL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Streaming_with_Linux_TIDAL.gmi
15:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Streaming with Linux: TIDAL
15:30 highest_cubist_thrills; The New Puritans Mob Justice Is Trampling Democratic Discourse (Archived) By Anne Applebaum on The Atlantic.
15:30 highest_cubist_thrills; ^ via stallmansupport website
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; cann how > how DARE
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; "HOW DARE you defend RMS? think of the children"
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; me: whose? bill gates and jeffrey epstein;s?
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; lxo got some abuse?
15:31 highest_cubist_thrills; [trashing] is much more prevalent among those who call themselves radical than among those who don't; among those who stress personal changes than among those who stress institutional ones
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; how DARE his template email sign have a link to a site called stallmansupport??
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; we don't need facts
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; the twittercourt has already ruled
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; guilty
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; for door sign etc.
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; many peoppele still believe this btw
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; and when I show them it's fake
15:32 highest_cubist_thrills; There is nothing new about discouraging women from stepping out of place by the use of psychological manipulation. This is one of the things that have kept women down for years; it is one thing that feminism was supposed to liberate us from.
15:32 schestowitz[TR]; their reaction is, "wel... OK,... but [ssome other crap]"
15:32 highest_cubist_thrills; free software, free speech, free society
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; the confiormation bias is there
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; people don't like to admit
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; culpabilioty
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; and
15:33 highest_cubist_thrills; Yet, instead of an alternative culture with alternative values, we have created alternative means of enforcing the traditional culture and values. Only the name has changed; the results are the same.
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; gullibility
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; so they will loom for somer other ammo
15:33 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft github gnu.
15:33 schestowitz[TR]; sfc lf a bunch of .tools
15:33 highest_cubist_thrills; "Rage is a logical result of oppression. It demands an outlet."
15:34 highest_cubist_thrills; sfc lf a bunch of .tools <- penfold.tools
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; I first read that as "repe"
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; *rape"
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; "he raped me with his mind"
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; "I think he pictures me naked"
15:34 highest_cubist_thrills; "Because most women are surrounded by men whom they have learned it is not wise to attack, their rage is often turned inward."
15:34 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile, apple exac openly speaks about fondling large breasts
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; keeps all his income
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; "steps down" iirc
15:35 highest_cubist_thrills; the same goes for men on the spectrum usually
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; until he is epxected to do the imposible
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; lecture in portuguese
15:35 schestowitz[TR]; after travellingg andpreparing for weeks
15:35 highest_cubist_thrills; One can feel the sense of power that comes from having "done something."
15:35 highest_cubist_thrills; Trying to change an entire society is a very slow, frustrating process in which gains are incremental, rewards diffuse, and setbacks frequent.
15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; It is not a coincidence that trashing occurs most often and most viciously by those feminists who see the least value in small, impersonal changes and thus often find themselves unable to act against specific institutions.
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; you kknow, it's offline now, but one think I always remember
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; from identi.ca iirc
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; ggreve defended rms after that incident
15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; The Movement's emphasis on "the personal is political" has made it easier for trashing to flourish. We began by deriving some of our political ideas from our analysis of our personal lives.
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; and blasted people who uploaded that clip
15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; ggreve defended rms after that incident <- yeah
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; not sure which platform to
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some raw mp4
15:36 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad the rest of fsfe are mostly traitors
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; so you know original fefe was OK
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; ggreve was not compromised
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; *fsfe
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; he even defended rms after the freakout
15:37 highest_cubist_thrills; Trashing is also a way of acting out the competitiveness that pervades our society, but in a manner that reflects the feelings of incompetence that trashers exhibit.
15:37 highest_cubist_thrills; he even defended rms after the freakout <- its called a meltdown
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; ggreve swiss
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; iirc
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; or german who moved to .ch
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; the current fsfe is all german
15:37 schestowitz[TR]; they appeear to have reported me to twitter
15:37 highest_cubist_thrills; seizures are called seizures because theyre a medical phenomenon
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; for merely using the hashtag #gulagdeutschland to describe the org
15:38 highest_cubist_thrills; they arent someone going insane-- theyre a failure of the brain to function normally for a time.
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; ttwitter sided with me
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; nazis don't mind being called nazis
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; but when there is gulag $ at stake
15:38 highest_cubist_thrills; stallmans meltdown wasnt a freakout-- its an occurance of
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; then they get all nazi about it
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; and become moderation nazis
15:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i m ean you can use whatever word you want to
15:38 schestowitz[TR]; and ask to 'denazify' twitter
15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; its just one is stupid and thoughtless and the other shows understanding and compassion
15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; by all means ill defend your right to use the stupid and thoughtless one
15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; but ill also recommend you stop calling a freakout
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; ok
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; what would you call it?
15:39 schestowitz[TR]; breakdown?
15:39 highest_cubist_thrills; he had a meltdown or a panic attack
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; ah, yes, better wording
15:40 highest_cubist_thrills; in autism its called a meltdown. its more broadly referring to as a panic attack
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; not sure what freakout means 'technically'
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, I heard that
15:40 highest_cubist_thrills; neither of these phrases are thoughtless or dismissive
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; like when the shops ran out of toilet paper
15:40 schestowitz[TR]; and people who were blind and stuff suffered breakdowns in stores
15:41 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah feel free to say society is freaking out collectively when its being insane
15:41 highest_cubist_thrills; im not against using the word crazy when its as appropriate as any other wording
15:41 TR News; "Its best to have an entire room to yourself since privacy matters. People passing by are a distraction, especially if they often throw random comments. But even if you dont have a whole room to work in, you can create an office corner." https://medevel.com/working-from-home-these-4-tips-will-help-you-to-stay-productive/
15:41 TR Bot; Working from Home? These 4 Tips Will Help You to Stay Productive
15:42 highest_cubist_thrills; some people are, i think theyre nuts.
15:42 TR News; SWI-Prolog version 8.4.3 (stable) released on 22 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Swi-prolog
15:42 highest_cubist_thrills; the reason im a stickler (and only a little) about things used to describe stallman
15:42 TR Bot; Swi-prolog - Free Software Directory
15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; nearly every one of them has a term for it among people on the spectrum
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; an ex of his wrote that he had a phobia of being under water
15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; his "freakout" was a meltdown. a lot of people can relate to tht event.
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; and his head in particular
15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but maybe not as many people can related to those people.
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; which his why he did not wash his hair for long periods of time
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; until he got over that phobia
15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; his "toejam" was probably just a hangnail for fucks sake
15:43 highest_cubist_thrills; have you never bitten a hangnail when clippers werent handy?
15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; its gross that it was one on his foot yes
15:44 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1576796427409559558#m
15:44 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Tonight on Russian state TV: the mood is grim, look at their faces. Dmitry Sablin, Deputy Chairman of the Defense Committee, admits that Russia desperately needs "to stop and regroup" and is experiencing all sorts of shortages, compared to Ukraine that has it all and then some."|nitter.it
15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; society has a THING about feet
15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; ew, feet.
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; and dicks... see clinton...
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; and antony weiner
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15:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's always feet and dicks
15:44 highest_cubist_thrills; probably not autism but yeah
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like some fetish domain name
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; how to cancel people:
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; look for footage of their bare feet
15:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean theres plenty of videos that combine feet and dicks
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; or photos of their junk
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; war crimes ok
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; just keep the weiner inside
15:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i agree that sending unsolicited dick pics is a bad idea
15:46 schestowitz[TR]; "zip it or we zap you"
15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the person weiner (heh) sent them to was underage as well
15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; but i might be thinking of another one.
15:46 schestowitz[TR]; ballmer obviously got tyhose two dude uncomfortable... look at their hands
15:46 schestowitz[TR]; before he sat back down... clapping like a baboon
15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; yep. she was.
15:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i looked it up. not fair to him if she wasnt.
15:47 schestowitz[TR]; no, I think she wwas adult
15:47 schestowitz[TR]; unless there were several
15:47 highest_cubist_thrills; s/developers/basketball players/
15:47 schestowitz[TR]; but it was adultery too
15:47 highest_cubist_thrills; no, I think she wwas adult <- Anthony Weiner jailed for 21 months for sexting underage girl
15:47 highest_cubist_thrills; www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41391640
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; there was also an anti-snoweden anti-wikileakss troll from the nsa
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; john schindler
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; he got busted sending duick pics online
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; and some let him carry on writing like nothing happened
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; he was married too
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; I'm not sure if the schooll where he lectured fire him
15:48 schestowitz[TR]; or maybe he 'stepped down'
15:48 highest_cubist_thrills; A Movement that once burst with energy, enthusiasm, and creativity has become bogged down in basic survival -- survival from each other.
15:48 highest_cubist_thrills; 1976!
15:49 highest_cubist_thrills; so familiar
15:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if mjg will read it
15:49 TR News; Andy Wingo writes about work-stealing and weak memory... https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/10/03/on-correct-and-efficient-work-stealing-for-weak-memory-models he should know... gnu.fools
15:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if anyone at lieplanet will figure out what really makes lieplanet less "safe"
15:50 TR Bot; on "correct and efficient work-stealing for weak memory models" -- wingolog
15:50 highest_cubist_thrills; these are narcissistic tendencies, imo the odds of self-realisation (at least in significant numbers) is very small
15:50 highest_cubist_thrills; phanes says impossible
15:50 highest_cubist_thrills; im only slightly more optimistic than that.
15:50 schestowitz[TR]; the term "safe" is not what thhe dictionary says
15:50 schestowitz[TR]; think not "memroy-safe"
15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; no theyre conflating safety with mob rule
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; but safe with money in it
15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; which is hilarious until it actually happens
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; FS is not safe
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; not much money in it
15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; the kind of "safe" at lieplanet
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; no need for safe
15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; when the rolling stones hired hells angels as "security"
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; SSchubb
15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; then they were "safe"
15:51 highest_cubist_thrills; when lieplanet uses psychological manipulation as assurance
15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and as a tactic
15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; lieplanet has fuck all to do with freedom
15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; its a fucking counterrevolution
15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; its a corporate trojan horse
15:52 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/free-speech-dying/
15:52 TR Bot; Free Speech is Becoming as Scarce as Independent Journalism (Even at the FSF) | Techrights
15:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i think the situation looks better for free speech than the movement
15:52 schestowitz[TR]; safe means you are not invited
15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; in 2015 it looked BLEAK
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; and thus cannot confront certain claims
15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; safe <- from the nasty hangnail-eating commie threat
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; soem troll here tries to make out network also "safe"
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; by banning p[eople
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; int eh channel
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; and also blacklisting authors
15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; he only says that because he loves you
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; because they still believe and say what he said 10 years ago
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; or 20
15:53 highest_cubist_thrills; just like when you call him a troll
15:54 schestowitz[TR]; or 10 years before FSF gave him an "award"
15:54 schestowitz[TR]; for helping Micosoft
15:54 TR News; Who Are You (I Really Wanna Know)? Detecting Audio DeepFakes Through Vocal Tract Reconstruction | USENIX https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/blue Source: USENIX | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/blue
15:54 TR Bot; Who Are You (I Really Wanna Know)? Detecting Audio DeepFakes Through Vocal Tract Reconstruction | USENIX
15:54 TR News; Deepfake audio has a tell researchers use fluid dynamics to spot artificial imposter voices https://theconversation.com/deepfake-audio-has-a-tell-researchers-use-fluid-dynamics-to-spot-artificial-imposter-voices-189104 Source: The Conversation
15:54 TR Bot; Deepfake audio has a tell researchers use fluid dynamics to spot artificial imposter voices
15:54 highest_cubist_thrills; back later (probably)
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15:55 TR News; Thorsten Alteholz: "This month I accepted 226 and rejected 33 packages. The overall number of packages that got accepted was 232." http://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/10/my-debian-activities-in-september-2022/
15:55 TR Bot; Debian Activities in September 2022 blog.alteholz.eu
15:56 TR News; "These articles are an interesting read not only if you're working on WebKit, but also if you are curious on how a modern browser engine works and some of the moving parts beneath the surface. So go check them out!" https://blogs.igalia.com/csaavedra/news-2022-10.html#D03
15:56 TR Bot; Claudio Saavedra's ChangeLog - October 2022
15:57 TR News; "Just a quick report. I have posted the latest Limine Installer scripts here" https://bkhome.org/news/202210/limine-installer-fixes.html
15:57 TR Bot; Limine Installer fixes
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16:13 TR News; Crystal Linux | Impressive New Arch Based Distro - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=v4wFxsFm8X0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/v4wFxsFm8X0
16:13 TR Bot; Crystal Linux | Impressive New Arch Based Distro - Invidious
16:14 TR News; MacOS on Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dMLNP6FfhkI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dMLNP6FfhkI
16:14 TR Bot; MacOS on Linux - Invidious
16:14 TR News; MX Linux 21.2 Quick overview #linux #mxlinux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uoK7iMPPxWU | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/uoK7iMPPxWU
16:14 TR Bot; MX Linux 21.2 Quick overview #linux #mxlinux - Invidious
16:15 TR News; Security updates for Monday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/910161/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/910161/
16:15 TR Bot; updates for Monday [LWN.net]
16:17 TR News; Paul Wise: FLOSS Activities September 2022 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2022/10/03/floss-activities/
16:17 TR Bot; FLOSS Activities September 2022
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:20 TR News; Wow, the Web site of Spamnil is about as ignored as his videos. "13 views"... what's the point even running the thing?
16:22 TR News; Security patches only for a fee? https://ubuntu.com//blog/iot-project-lifecycle-long-term-support-for-iot-devices
16:22 TR Bot; project lifecycle long-term support for IoT devices | Ubuntu
16:23 TR News; "FOSSlife Team" = Microsoft liars. Watch them helping Microsoft... basically protecting criminals by blaming "Open Source" https://www.fosslife.org/hackers-target-it-staff-fake-job-offers-and-open-source-software see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/
16:23 TR Bot; Hackers Use Fake Job Offers and Open Source Software to Target IT Staff
16:23 TR Bot; Microsoft Doesnt Like Open Source; Its Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights
16:29 TR News; Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.40 Learning to Core https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/10/03/2022-40-learning-to-core/
16:29 TR Bot; 2022.40 Learning to Core Rakudo Weekly News
16:37 TR News; Clown, SAP, and Microsoft are the focus of today's SUSE. Or GAFAM+Proprietary Software https://www.suse.com/c/learn-engage-solve-join-suse-at-google-cloud-next-22/
16:37 TR Bot; Engage. Solve. Join SUSE at Google Cloud Next '22 | SUSE Communities
16:37 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: Distros, WordPress, and Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Shows_and_Videos_Distros_WordPress_and_Games.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Shows_and_Videos_Distros_WordPress_and_Games.gmi
16:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: Distros, WordPress, and Games
16:39 TR News; ICBM looks for unpaid volunteers or slaves... so it can reduce operating expenses associated with testers (that's how ICBM views "community"... like plantation) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-to-fedora-37-upgrade-test-day/
16:39 TR Bot; Contribute to Fedora 37 Upgrade Test Day Fedora Community Blog
16:40 TR News; I remember the days SJVN acted like a journalist, before he defected to MARKETING
16:41 TR News; Two clowns in one headline: this is today's Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/embracing-multi-cloud-container-development-platforms-drive-cloud-native-innovation
16:41 TR Bot; Embracing multicloud container development platforms to drive cloud-native innovation
16:52 TR News; What's Going on in Embedded Linux? Watch the EEI Livestream on October 5 https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/what-s-going-on-in-embedded-linux-watch-the-eei-livestream-on-october-5
16:53 TR Bot; Embedded Linux Insights: Watch the EEI Livestream on October 5 | Elektor Magazine
16:54 TR News; "Chrome OS Linux". No Chrome OS is USING Linux and loves Gulag, i.e. it loves pushing spyware to people. https://www.howtogeek.com/835854/heres-how-steam-works-on-chromebooks/
16:54 TR Bot; Heres How Steam Works on Chromebooks
16:55 TR News; Gulag to GNU/Linux founder: thanks for the work, now please drop dead and leave all your software to us.
16:57 TR News; Proprietary copycats of IRC are a lot worse because of gamification, scores, engagement, addiction etc. They're spyware that harms people's minds. Just use IRC 'proper'.
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 161.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 116.16
16:59 TR News; The Web was doing great for half of its lifetime (so far) without "like" buttons. They're spurious, meaningless, an appeal to ego and not substance.
17:00 TR News; Web 1990s: read. Web 2000s: read+write. Web 2010+: click, scroll, drool
17:03 TR News; Akademy Talks Day 2 - Jonathan Esk-Riddells Diary https://jriddell.org/2022/10/03/akademy-talks-day-2/ Source: Jonathan Riddell | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jriddell.org/2022/10/03/akademy-talks-day-2/
17:03 TR Bot; Akademy Talks Day 2 Jonathan Esk-Riddell's Diary
17:08 TR News; "Based on the recently released Linux 6.0 kernel series, the GNU Linux-libre 6.0 kernel is here to clean up proprietary code." https://9to5linux.com/gnu-linux-libre-6-0-kernel-released-for-those-who-seek-100-freedom-for-their-pcs
17:08 TR Bot; Linux-Libre 6.0 Kernel Released for Those Who Seek 100% Freedom for Their PCs - 9to5Linux
17:08 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
17:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
17:12 TR News; 1990s WWW: we send you description of a page. 2000s: we send you a page linked to other pages and light code to enhance appearance. 2010s: you need some big programs for easier navigation in site. 2020s: you cannot enter our site at all until you download and run our proprietary JS bundles.
17:18 TR News; (NEW): IceWM 3.0.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/IceWM_3_0_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/IceWM_3_0_0.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines IceWM 3.0.0
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:45 TR News; The State vs the climate gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20221003_state_climate
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17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; "theres a really irritating point that people on the left that goes 'well cancelling doesnt really end anyones career'" mjg likes to play this tune, or variations thereof
17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; this is still from the wynn video
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; "i think people say this because theyre trying to mitigate any sense of guilt the might feel about how theyre treating people"
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; "because its a really stupid argument" (cw: suicide)
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; she said cw: im not really a cw; kind of person
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; im my own cw by now
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; cw: me
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; "theres a lot of things that dont end your life that are still terrible"
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; then she talks about august ames
17:56 TR News; (NEW): TUXEDO OS 1 overview | Surf, mail, work or play? Go for it! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/TUXEDO_OS_1_overview_Surf_mail_work_or_play_Go_for_it.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/TUXEDO_OS_1_overview_Surf_mail_work_or_play_Go_for_it.gmi
17:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines TUXEDO OS 1 overview | Surf, mail, work or play? Go for it!
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; funny how the same crowd that accuses sites of driving people to suicid... tries to drive peopel to suicide
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; and those sites do not do is
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; some people on those sites, like some people in the forum, say things..
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, double standard is an inherent feature of these brigades
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's like women who joke about cutting off men's dicks
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; as punishment for things
17:58 highest_cubist_thrills; double standards and hypocrisy are corner stones of trashing culture
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; and then you respond,
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; "is it also funny to cut women's breasts as punishment?"
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; but being able to recognise double standard takes a certain mindset
17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; it's like women who joke about cutting off men's dick <- yeah, i didnt care for sharon osbourne ever again after seeing her light up with glee over the thought of a mans dick in a blender
17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, cw: mans dick in a blender
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17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; but i didnt try to end her career or start a twitter campaign over it. i simply lost any interest in her as a person
17:59 starstreak; attack surface btw
17:59 highest_cubist_thrills; <3
18:00 starstreak; another day, no gnome 43 :(
18:01 starstreak; arch *did* package gnome-console 43
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; /me cancels gnome for hurting trans people
18:01 starstreak; lol
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; :D
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; also systemd is racist
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; it just is
18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and anyone who cant understand that is a horrible person
18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; *winkwink*
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; jokes about sextual mutilation are, to m,e as offensive as jokes about decapitation
18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; jokes about sextual mutilation are, to m,e as offensive as jokes about decapitation <- idk if i had to choose, id probably let the dick go
18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; just because without the other one i couldnt really enjoy it anyway
18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats a very practical (nearly fucking autistic) take
18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; ideally the third scenario of killing the fucker who tries to take either one off seems like a good third option
18:05 starstreak; linucks btw
18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; its not as bad as it seems, you dont have to cheer me up constantly
18:06 starstreak; "Guh new slash Linucks" -RMS
18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; but you do :)
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: some do both
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, in south america
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; then stuff one inside the other
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; key word: mouth
18:07 highest_cubist_thrills; iirc, in south america <- that probably had more to to do with the guns mcaffee had
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; it sure scares the rest who are alive
18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; but you never know, i mean, hes not really ian murdock is he
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; drug cartels... that's one heck of a drug!
18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; cartels are the opiate of the mass... nothing
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; thrown under the bus
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; and well, he's dead (john)
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; if this is how billg speaks of a close friend
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; imagine how he thinks and speaks of "enemies"
18:09 starstreak; "He's dead, Jim" -McCoy
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/rabid-bill-gates/
18:10 TR Bot; Bill Gates Refers to His Business as Jihad and Accuses Java of Being a Religion With Rabid Supporters | Techrights
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; /me just wants to love natalie wynn forever even if she becomes hitler
18:10 starstreak; every time i gave the ai "reptilian bill gates" it would just give me bill gates pictures so clearly he is
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but if she becomes hitler i might cancel her just a little
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; hitlist
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; i think I'm in one
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; hitlerlist
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> i think I'm in one <- no, just a shitlist
18:11 starstreak; "His kernel is called linucks" -RMS
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; been a survivor though
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; you want to be on a hitlist, so you can do a series about it
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; better shitlist than hitlist
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; hit is worse than just shit
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> been a survivor though <- this i actually believe
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; hitman brett hart
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; canadian
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: own hart attack surfae
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; dont fuck with canadians. they will fuck you up and then say theyre sorry.
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; i think both brothers are dead now
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; steroids and fall
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: all canadian wrestlers I know die with cancer or anabolic steroids
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, "british bulldog" was from BC
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; so not even british
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; just branding
18:13 starstreak; british columbia
18:13 starstreak; gtfo noob
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; didn't even reach my age
18:16 TR News; "CISA has issued Binding Operational Directive (BOD) 23-01: Improving Asset Visibility and Vulnerability Detection on Federal Networks, which seeks improve asset visibility and vulnerability enumeration across the federal enterprise." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/03/cisa-issues-binding-operational-directive-23-01-improving-asset
18:16 TR Bot; CISA Issues Binding Operational Directive 23-01: Improving Asset Visibility and Vulnerability Detection on Federal Networks | CISA
18:16 TR News; CentOS Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q3 https://blog.centos.org/2022/10/centos-hyperscale-sig-quarterly-report-for-2022q3/
18:16 TR Bot; Hyperscale SIG Quarterly Report for 2022Q3 Blog.CentOS.org
18:18 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
18:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
18:19 TR News; (NEW): CentOS, Red Hat, and Fedora Family http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CentOS_Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/CentOS_Red_Hat_and_Fedora_Family.gmi
18:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines CentOS, Red Hat, and Fedora Family
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:30 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
18:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
18:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi
18:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
18:30 TR News; Links 03/10/2022: OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate and IceWM 3.0.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/icewm-3-0-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/03/icewm-3-0-0/
18:30 TR Bot; Links 03/10/2022: OpenMandriva ROME Gold Candidate and IceWM 3.0.0 | Techrights
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18:43 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/tunnel-cam-manchester-united-63800390
18:43 TR Bot; City 6-3 Manchester United: Tunnel Cam
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.03
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:54 DaemonFC; I should post a bug report I suppose on dangling references to 90s/2000s instant messengers that are dead.
19:54 DaemonFC; But the GUI of SeaMonkey has gotten a lot less crowded with the removal of references to plug-ins, AIM, and such.
19:55 DaemonFC; That just shows what the long term technical debt of shoving in references to proprietary software is.
19:55 DaemonFC; 20 years later, you're still there and they aren't.
19:55 DaemonFC; People are going to look at the ZDNet spam about Microsoft Teams in the same way in just 5 years or so.
19:56 DaemonFC; Like, it's not even now what AIM was at its peak.
19:56 DaemonFC; They have to invent ways to promote this shit because shooting emails back and forth and CC-ing people who need to be in the know about the memo is too fast and easy and can be done with anything.
19:57 DaemonFC; The memo about the TPS report could just be sent to everyone in the office who needed it, and then they could reply and your email client would create a tree so everyone could read the replies and be up to speed with everyone else.
19:58 DaemonFC; Now they call a two hour mandatory video meeting where nobody is getting any work done. Oh, and you need this Microsoft crap for some reason.
19:59 DaemonFC; Then during the video meeting, someone is a cat and someone else forgets to turn on their privacy shade and gets caught masturbating because they have to be at the meeting but didn't actually care about the TPS reports.
19:59 DaemonFC; This Zoom Court shit going on is fucking stupid.
19:59 DaemonFC; People transmit gay porn into a courtroom and the lawyers show up with the cat face filter.
20:00 DaemonFC; And the judge is over there admonishing people for turning his courtroom into a three ringed circus, but it's his own fault for telling them to use Zoom in the first place.
20:01 DaemonFC; But Zoom is kind of funny too, in its own way.
20:01 DaemonFC; It shows you just how trashy these people getting in trouble with the law tend to be.
20:02 DaemonFC; Right? I'm there wearing a suit even though I'm on Zoom going "Yes sir. No sir." and then you have people in their bed that are called "iPhone" and they have nappy hair and they're smoking weed in front of the judge and are high as fuck and they're saying the judge is full of shit right at him.
20:03 DaemonFC; One woman in Zoom Traffic Court was admonished by the judge for appearing in court on her phone while she was driving.
20:03 DaemonFC; The judge said she needed to pull over because she was committing a traffic offense while she was in traffic court.
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:24 bagira; https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2019-07/msg00009.html
20:25 TR Bot; [libreplanet-discuss] Nepotism, Conflict of interest: Debian GSoC/Outrea
20:39 DaemonFC; Most stall outs on the browser process in single-process mode (which is what SeaMonkey uses) are in poorly-written and bloated JavaScripts.
20:40 frog; there is only one solution to the technical and quality problems GNU/FSF etc. have: removal of GNU-toolchain (gcc,binutils) and removal of GNU-buildsystem (autotools,automake)
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20:40 DaemonFC; So basically the problem Mozilla is solving with e10s is that those really bloated and poorly-written JavaScripts get their own CPU core to bog down, which will hopefully stop them from freezing your entire browser.
20:40 DaemonFC; Which is a really shitty way to try to solve the problem.
20:41 DaemonFC; "MoonChild" (M.C. Straver) was right in saying e10s is a really shitty way to solve Web performance problems.
20:41 DaemonFC; It would be nice if they would stop blocking NoScript and making the user fight to turn it back on and insulting people who want to use it.
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20:56 AdmFubar; there's fungus among us https://www.statnews.com/2022/09/30/fungi-found-in-cancer-tumors-but-why-is-a-mystery/
20:56 TR Bot; Fungi find their way into cancer tumors, but why is a mystery - STAT
20:57 AdmFubar; probably why I don't like mushrooms
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 195.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 139.06
21:03 starstreak; AdmFubar, i liked LSD a lot more than mushrooms
21:03 starstreak; mushrooms are too intense
21:06 starstreak; i wish the government would legalize LSD
21:06 AdmFubar; I kinda noticed that about you.. ;)
21:06 starstreak; AdmFubar, noticed what?
21:06 AdmFubar; yes that exactly
21:07 starstreak; i use gnome btw
21:09 AdmFubar; hhhmmm ok
21:09 starstreak; what is it about me that makes you think LSD or mushrooms?
21:11 AdmFubar; absolutely nothing
21:11 AdmFubar; just something I said off the top of my head
21:11 MinceR; limited slip differential?
21:12 AdmFubar; got you thinking there was something
21:12 AdmFubar; there is a little blue pill for that mincer
21:12 MinceR; "Made you flinch!"
21:13 MinceR; AdmFubar: Viagra? i don't need it.
21:13 starstreak; vajayjay
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:27 AdmFubar; https://www.planetary.org/the-downlink/a-smashing-success
21:27 TR Bot; A smashing success | The Planetary Society
21:37 AdmFubar; https://linuxiac.com/tuxedo-os-1/
21:37 TR Bot; TUXEDO Computers Released TUXEDO OS 1 to the Mass Public
21:43 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/ancient-nuclear-plant-computer-finds-new-home-in-bletchley-museum/
↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/03/ancient-nuclear-plant-computer-finds-new-home-in-bletchley-museum/
21:43 TR Bot; Nuclear Plant Computer Finds New Home In Bletchley Museum | Hackaday
21:54 AdmFubar; you've been spotted! https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/29/spotify-is-getting-installed-on-some-windows-pcs-automatically/
21:54 TR Bot; Spotify is getting installed on some Windows PCs automatically - gHacks Tech News
21:57 AdmFubar; https://www.databreaches.net/why-wont-they-tell-you-that-your-data-were-leaked-why-doesnt-the-government-make-them-tell-you/
21:57 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/why-wont-they-tell-you-that-your-data-were-leaked-why-doesnt-the-government-make-them-tell-you/ )
22:06 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/news/google-might-force-users-to-pay-for-premium-to-watch-videos-in-4k-on-youtube
22:06 TR Bot; Google might force users to pay for Premium to watch videos in 4K on YouTube - Neowin
22:06 DaemonFC; "Pay for PREMIUM so you can watch 4K on a 5" iPhone screen!" -GULAG
22:06 DaemonFC; IIRC, the iPhone "retina" displays aren't even 1080p, so why would you pay to watch something the phone's screen doesn't even support?
22:07 MinceR; hypePhone users don't mind
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22:13 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/310061203_5429935183710653_2129939102217093000_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=EHsi75rtY8oAX9rP441&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT_KhZk29ngpXwvyDWf8uqqtNT3dclu42vsWeMzBsCNzkw&oe=633FD530
22:13 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, in Flordia.
22:13 DaemonFC; *Florida
22:14 MinceR; :D
22:16 AdmFubar; monster low riders
22:17 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/03/tiktok_tracking_pixels/
22:17 TR Bot; TikTok caught using tracking pixels just like Meta, Google The Register
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:24 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1577044548236124160 "Musk, whose text messages revealed him to be an occasional reader of RT"
22:24 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Self-explanatory."|nitter.it
22:24 XRevan86; Ye were supposed to be the chosen one!
22:25 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/world/musk-zelenskiy-twitter-showdown-over-billionaires-peace-plan-2022-10-03/ context
22:25 TR Bot; Musk and Zelenskiy in Twitter showdown over billionaire's peace plan
22:26 MinceR; lol
22:27 MinceR; i think it was obvious for a while that he's not the chosen one, but a fraud
22:27 XRevan86; Starlink's are an incredibly powerful tool for Ukraine, so this is very awkward.
22:28 XRevan86; MinceR: I mean in this narrow context %).
22:29 MinceR; musk forced the founders of tesla out in 2008 and tried to take credit for everything they've done
22:29 XRevan86; Whose idea was the Tesla subway disaster?
22:30 MinceR; (which isn't even all that worth taking credit for)
22:30 MinceR; \_()_/
22:30 MinceR; was it even branded tesla?
22:30 MinceR; i can't keep musk's transportation pipe dreams (literally) straight
22:31 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company "The Boring Company was formed as a subsidiary of SpaceX, before separating in 2018"
22:31 TR Bot; The Boring Company - Wikipedia
22:35 TR News; iTWire - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen https://itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/after-12-days,-optus-finally-says-2-1m-customers-had-data-stolen.html
22:35 TR Bot; - After 11 days, Optus finally says 2.1m customers had ID data stolen
22:35 TR News; Clickbait on Gemini gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/clickbait-on-gemini.gmi
22:36 TR News; State vs Climate gemini://idiomdrottning.org/state-vs-climate
22:37 TR News; "Unfortunately, we are still having what I call the "cloud apocalypse" here in Fairbanks, Alaska. This last week was a seemingly unbroken chain of overcast days and nights very thick clouds with some light rain here and there." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221003-0.gmi
22:39 TR News; (NEW): LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (39/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09, Akademy and an Update on Nemo Mobile http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_39_2022_Plasma_M.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/LINMOB_net_Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_39_2022_Plasma_M.gmi
22:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines LINMOB.net - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (39/2022): Plasma Mobile Gear 22.09, Akademy and an Update on Nemo Mobile
22:40 TR News; How to Reduce Video Size (Compress) With FFmpeg - ByteXD https://bytexd.com/how-to-reduce-video-size-compress-with-ffmpeg/ Source: ByteXD | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bytexd.com/how-to-reduce-video-size-compress-with-ffmpeg/
22:40 TR Bot; to Reduce Video Size (Compress) With FFmpeg - ByteXD
22:43 TR News; Paid-for puff piece about foreign lobby group of monopolies https://thenewstack.io/open-source-summit-introducing-linux-foundation-europe/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/03/european-school-the-hague/
22:43 TR Bot; At Open Source Summit: Introducing Linux Foundation Europe - The New Stack
22:43 TR Bot; European School The Hague (ESH) Faces a Crisis and Families of EPO Workers Are Harmed Profoundly | Techrights
22:45 DaemonFC; MinceRmusk forced the founders of tesla out in 2008 and tried to take credit for everything they've done
22:45 DaemonFC; He did the same to Paypal but wasn't as successful.
22:45 DaemonFC; Musk is an elitist far-right crank who the liberals subsidize and buy bad cars off of.
22:45 MinceR; +
22:46 DaemonFC; He says the danger to the planet is not enough kids and there's an underpopulation problem.
22:46 DaemonFC; He doesn't hit a limit to what his finances can afford and even if you split his wealth between 10 nasty heirs when he dies, they all become rich from doing absolutely nothing.
22:46 DaemonFC; And so do all of their kids.
22:47 DaemonFC; I don't think all of his kids are as bad as he is.
22:47 MinceR; and will probably use those resources to make life worse for everyone else
22:47 DaemonFC; At least one of them said she doesn't care to inherit anything from him, hates him, and disowned him as her father in court.
22:48 TR News; Crystal Crowder = webspammer. "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by Tronsmart..." So you do a FAKE 'review' for the company https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/tronsmart-bang-mini-portable-party-speaker/
22:48 TR Bot; Tronsmart Bang Mini Portable Party Speaker Review - Make Tech Easier
22:49 TR News; (NEW): Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Does_Rust_belong_in_the_Linux_kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Does_Rust_belong_in_the_Linux_kernel.gmi
22:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Does Rust belong in the Linux kernel?
22:51 TR News; [GIT PULL] kernel hardening updates for v6.1-rc1 - Kees Cook https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/202210011003.B89BF8B@keescook/
22:51 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] kernel hardening updates for v6.1-rc1 - Kees Cook
22:51 DaemonFC; Courts can't change a biological fact. They can only create a legal fiction. It won't change her genetics anymore than a court order could turn me into a woman.
22:51 DaemonFC; But it is a public repudiation of her dad, and a fairly forceful one too.
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22:52 DaemonFC; Most normal people are inclined to protect children, even children that are not their own. It's one of those "subconscious programming" things that serves an evolutionary purpose.
22:53 DaemonFC; I recall reading a study, though, that showed that men responded more strongly to pictures of children that had similar facial features as theirs than ones that didn't look anything at all like them, whereas women do not.
22:54 DaemonFC; So it might explain why men are less willing to adopt unless they just lose an argument with their spouse, treat their step-children badly, etc.
22:54 DaemonFC; They may not even realize that they do it, or why.
22:54 TR News; "Loads of discoveries including quickly fixing command line flubs, a must-have tool for USB booting, managing snapshots, and a router distro. Plus the problem with open-sourcing AI, Graham makes a dreadful racket, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-197/ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-197/
22:54 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 197 Late Night Linux
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22:54 TR News; OPEN SOURCE your Android Phone: open source Android ROMS and apps - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Llrrzh6hxcA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Llrrzh6hxcA
22:54 TR Bot; OPEN SOURCE your Android Phone: open source Android ROMS and apps - Invidious
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22:55 TR News; The Best Method for Building a Custom Firefox Install on Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H7VcIIrdoXg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/H7VcIIrdoXg
22:55 TR Bot; The Best Method for Building a Custom Firefox Install on Linux - Invidious
22:56 TR News; Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bwTEAj5eF6o | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/bwTEAj5eF6o
22:56 TR Bot; Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created! - Invidious
22:57 TR News; New release of Git and Phoronix has spun that as a Microsoft thing. Shame on Microbell.
22:59 TR News; TechRepublic = Microsoft DIPLOMA MILL SPAM https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-courses-linkedin-premium/ see also http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/spam-instead-of-news/
22:59 TR Bot; Learning: The best Linux courses and tutorials | TechRepublic
22:59 TR Bot; Linux Today Back to Posting Spam Instead of News | Techrights
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 158.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.58
23:06 TR News; When Git has a release there is a formal announcement in a vendor-neutral mailing list. LWN and Phoronix link to an ATTACK on Git!! Yes, Microsoft proprietary GitHub as if Microsoft owns Git itself. This is tactless and harmful.
23:07 TR News; The impact of Free software on cybersecurity | Infosec Resources https://resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/open-source-cybersecurity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/open-source-cybersecurity/
23:07 TR Bot; The impact of open source on cybersecurity | Infosec Resources
23:08 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Arch User Repository Package, Firefox, Android, and Late Night Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Videos_and_Shows_Arch_User_Repository_Package_Firefox_Android_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Videos_and_Shows_Arch_User_Repository_Package_Firefox_Android_a.gmi
23:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Arch User Repository Package, Firefox, Android, and Late Night Linux
23:18 TR News; September GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Seventeen new GNU releases! https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/september-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-seventeen-new-gnu-releases
23:18 TR Bot; September GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Seventeen new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
23:18 TR News; (NEW): Git v2.38.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Git_v2_38_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Git_v2_38_0.gmi
23:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Git v2.38.0
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-02.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-03.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 TR News; (NEW): Everything You Need to Get Started With Arduino Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Everything_You_Need_to_Get_Started_With_Arduino_Projects.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Everything_You_Need_to_Get_Started_With_Arduino_Projects.gmi
23:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Everything You Need to Get Started With Arduino Projects
23:20 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
23:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
23:23 TR News; This article hardly explains how this gets on systems in the first place and instead rambles about Microsoft, not Linux, issues https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/researchers-link-cheerscrypt-linux.html
23:23 TR Bot; Researchers Link Cheerscrypt Linux-Based Ransomware to Chinese Hackers
23:27 TR News; Liam Proven, David Delony, and Arindam Giri on Debian changes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/02/Debian_Results_for_non_free_firmware.shtml
23:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian: Results for non-free firmware (UPDATED)
23:28 TR News; "After waiting for almost two, two, and a half months, I finally got mums death certificate last week. A part of me was saddened as it felt like I was nailing her or putting nails to the coffin or whatever it is, (even though Im an Agarwal) I just felt sad and awful." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2022/10/04/death-certificate-legal-heir-succession-certificate-and-indian-beaureacracy/
23:28 TR Bot; Death Certificate, Legal Heir, Succession Certificate, and Indian Beaureacracy. Experiences in the community
23:30 TR News; Mass surveillance. As if running and controlling your own PC is 'passe' https://www.storagereview.com/news/amazons-fully-managed-infrastructure-only-vdi-solution-announced
23:30 TR Bot; Fully-Managed, Infrastructure-Only VDI Solution Announced - StorageReview.com
23:31 TR News; Waste of energy, ruining the planet https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/03/the-steady-hand-guiding-amds-prudently-expanding-datacenter-business/
23:31 TR Bot; The Steady Hand Guiding AMDs Prudently Expanding Datacenter Business
23:32 TR News; vrurg: Did you know that https://vrurg.github.io/2022/10/03/coerce-with-long-name
23:32 TR Bot; Did you know that - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg
23:32 starstreak; arch linux's gnome unstable source code is available on gitlab: https://gitlab.com/fabiscafe/gnome-unstable
23:32 TR Bot; Bornschein / gnome-unstable GitLab
23:32 TR News; The Gallery: Can FMV Games Make a Come-back? https://boilingsteam.com/the-gallery-fmv-game-review/
23:32 TR Bot; The Gallery: Can FMV Games Make a Come-back? - Boiling Steam
23:33 TR News; (NEW): Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.gmi
23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt
23:33 TR News; (NEW): The 6 Most Effective Linux Parental Control Software in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/The_6_Most_Effective_Linux_Parental_Control_Software_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/03/The_6_Most_Effective_Linux_Parental_Control_Software_in_2022.gmi
23:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines The 6 Most Effective Linux Parental Control Software in 2022
23:33 TR News; [GIT PULL] Power management updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/CAJZ5v0ip_C6y1KopyN2pEs7dyqPw6NzKG1WtJSeqyKJeMOYwfA@mail.gmail.com/
23:33 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Power management updates for v6.1-rc1 - Rafael J. Wysocki
23:34 TR News; Improved version of our popular "Embedded Linux system development" course - Bootlin's blog https://bootlin.com/blog/improved-version-embedded-linux-course/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bootlin.com/blog/improved-version-embedded-linux-course/
23:34 TR Bot; version of our popular "Embedded Linux system development" course - Bootlin's blog
23:35 TR News; "For twenty-five years, SUSE has collaborated and innovated with Hewlett Packard Enterprises (HPE), to create a seamless hardware and software experience." https://www.suse.com/c/its-here-suse-rancher-sle-micro-and-k3s-now-available-with-hpe-pointnext-support/
23:35 TR Bot; here! SUSE Rancher, SLE Micro and K3s now available with HPE Pointnext support | SUSE Communities
23:35 TR News; "The accepted sessions for the upcoming Netdev 0x16 have been posted. The conference will be held virtually and in-person in Lisbon, Portugal October 24-28. In addition, early-bird registration rates have been extended to October 4." https://lwn.net/Articles/910210/
23:35 TR Bot; 0x16 accepted sessions announced [LWN.net]
23:37 TR News; "Oh yeah, you probably want to know if the game works as is on Steam? Actually, no. It wont work if you use the regular Proton or even Experimental, at least at the time of writing: the videos wont display, which makes the game unplayable. But GE-Proton (any recent version) will do the trick to make it work the way its supposed to." https://boilingsteam.com/the-gallery-fmv-game-review/
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23:40 TR News; USA: militarising even the education system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm_7BP0RxYs
23:40 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=rm_7BP0RxYs
23:40 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | Take Advantage of your Military Education Benefits! @CyberInsight - Invidious
23:41 TR News; Functionality ruined by excessive "design" in this case https://thishosting.rocks/how-to-create-an-impressive-website-in-terms-of-design-and-functionality/
23:41 TR Bot; How To Create an Impressive Website in Terms of Design and Functionality
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23:42 TR News; XDA does a lousy job, helping Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux. WSL is an ATTACK on it. Make no mistakes about it... https://www.xda-developers.com/how-enable-systemd-in-wsl/
23:42 TR Bot; How to enable systemd in Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)
23:43 TR News; Laura Tucker is posting spam as 'articles'. Great example of webspam in so-called 'news' sites https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/insignia-65-f30-series-smart-fire-tv/ Amazon is giving incentives to turn the Web into this sort of spamfarm
23:43 TR Bot; Save $300 on an Insignia 75" F30 Series Smart Fire TV - Make Tech Easier
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23:52 TR News; Energy wasted, back doors too https://venturebeat.com/programming-development/intel-cto-wants-developers-to-build-once-run-on-any-gpu/
23:52 TR Bot; CTO wants developers to build once, run on any GPU | VentureBeat
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