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00:01 ulf; no clue who activelow or britney are
00:02 DaemonFC; <phanes> when i have a layover in chicago i don't even leave the terminal
00:02 ulf; there simply isn't anything "good" or "positive" remaining about what's advertised as "free" by GNU/FSF/RMS
00:02 DaemonFC; That's the safest part of the city.
00:02 DaemonFC; It's behind the TSA checkpoint and there's cops everywhere.
00:03 DaemonFC; With machine guns.
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00:03 DaemonFC; There are people who have lived in O'Hare for months without being caught.
00:03 DaemonFC; It's such a big airport that nobody noticed them for a while.
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00:06 ulf; sabotage, is a severe criminal act, and this is how i qualify much of what's advertised as "free"
00:06 XRevan86; ulf: Are ye kidding me, activelow?
00:06 XRevan86; ulf: Don't even pretend.
00:06 ulf; the fact, it's highly intelligent persons developers involved with sabotage, to waste other intelligent persons time
00:07 ulf; globally
00:07 ulf; this is what they do
00:07 ulf; in USA, they hack and slay each other with anti-competitive malware, which sufficed to put all of them into jail
00:08 ulf; it's globalized now
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00:08 ulf; to waste even more development man power, time and resources
00:09 *phanes ordered some 99% isopropyl alcohol and wonders if there's anything cool you can do with it
00:09 XRevan86; ulf: I have a simple test for you: can ye tell me the etymology of the word "Titan".
00:10 ulf; XRevan86: it the greek gods which died, and their cultural heritage drowned in atlantis
00:11 XRevan86; ulf: No, *etymology*.
00:11 ulf; their language and knowledge disappaered forever, and the olymp conquered by a "new generation"
00:11 XRevan86; What the origins of the word are.
00:11 ulf; no idea, Titan to is a chemical element
00:12 XRevan86; What's your best guess?
00:12 phanes; Titan: Tite, from Tit. As in big.
00:13 XRevan86; phanes: No tips
00:14 phanes; XRevan86, only tips.
00:15 TR News; Peppermint OS Now Offers Devuan-Based ISOs for Software Freedom Lovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167975
00:15 TR Bot; Peppermint OS Now Offers Devuan-Based ISOs for Software Freedom Lovers | Tux Machines
00:17 TR News; LibreOffice is a flagship project for social service at UACM - The Document Foundation Blog https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/08/03/libreoffice-is-a-flagship-project-for-social-service-at-uacm/ Source: Documentfoundation | OpenDocument | freesw | libreoffice | odf |
00:17 TR Bot; LibreOffice is a flagship project for social service at UACM - The Document Foundation Blog
00:18 XRevan86; phanes: Anyway, ulf didn't take a bait this cheap.
00:18 TR News; Locking Engineering Hierarchy https://blog.ffwll.ch/2022/08/locking-hierarchy.html
00:18 TR Bot; Locking Engineering Hierarchy
00:18 phanes; XRevan86, i was hoping
00:18 phanes; XRevan86, worst case scenario he believes it and repeats it to someone else who gets it
00:19 XRevan86; The activelow answer is that Titan comes from the English word tit, not any tit but the tit of the primeval cow Auumbla.
00:19 XRevan86; phanes: Yours is actually milder.
00:19 TR News; "Members of openSUSEs Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) community workgroup had a successful install workshop on August 2 and are transitioning to two install feedback sessions." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/08/03/wg-shifts-to-feedback/
00:19 TR Bot; Work Group Shifts to Feedback Session - openSUSE News
00:20 XRevan86; phanes: Ye missed the moment in this channel when activelow was telling us all these ideas.
00:21 TR News; Migration to Containers, Microservices and Kubernetes https://containerjournal.com/topics/migration-to-containers-microservices-kubernetes-adrian-ionel-mirantis/
00:21 TR Bot; Migration to Containers, Microservices and Kubernetes - Container Journal
00:21 XRevan86; This "GNU is evil" stuff is lame in comparison. But in brand.
00:21 ulf; GNU/FSF aren't any better than micros~1
00:22 ulf; they're only a marketing facade, of the Pentagon, to advertsize and push spyware made in usa
00:22 XRevan86; And the unhealthy fixation on TinyCC specifically is a dead giveaway, because activelow gives it merit because someone managed to build a stripped down old Linux version with it.
00:23 XRevan86; And by his logic it means it's a better suited compiler for the job of building (any) Linux than anything else out there.
00:23 phanes; thats some next level dumb shit to think
00:23 phanes; like if this were a dumb shit contest i'd be hard pressed to find a contender
00:23 XRevan86; (GCC/Clang excluded)
00:23 ulf; any sane standards compliant compiler is better than what GNU/FSF with their GNU toolchain do, or mapple LLVM
00:26 TR News; Tristan Van Berkom: BuildStream 2 news https://blogs.gnome.org/tvb/2022/08/03/buildstream-2-news/
00:26 TR Bot; BuildStream 2 news Tristan's World
00:27 XRevan86; ulf: What about cproc then?
00:29 XRevan86; ulf: Give me an activelow answer, I know ye want to.
00:33 TR News; From MIT To Linux: How Xorg Died Many Deaths - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7fRoiF6IDxs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/7fRoiF6IDxs
00:33 TR Bot; From MIT To Linux: How Xorg Died Many Deaths - Invidious
00:34 britney; i know ulf is earthling but i don't know if earthling was activelow
00:34 ulf; if cproc was merley ANSI C90/99/11 compliant for any desired architecture, then this certainly isn't "good enough" for GNU/FSF/BSD and whoever else
00:34 phanes; yeah this is why they need to stop giving out so many comp sci degrees, these no child left behind generation kids buy right into the wayland marketing, xorg is still in heavy use
00:34 TR News; Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QShfkB5vyoM | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QShfkB5vyoM
00:34 TR Bot; Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon Run Through - Invidious
00:34 ulf; XRevan86: it is the system-integration into build-system which was sabotaged by GNU/FSF
00:34 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167976
00:34 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:34 ulf; and other dirty tricks of them
00:34 XRevan86; ulf: https://git.sr.ht/~mcf/cproc/tree/master/README.md "cproc is a C11 compiler" "Some C23 features and GNU C extensions are also implemented."
00:34 TR Bot; ~mcf/cproc: README.md - sourcehut git
00:34 XRevan86; Off the rip this gives more than TinyCC ever could.
00:35 TR News; Sugar-Free Hammer https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/692 Source: twittv
00:35 TR Bot; Sugar-Free Hammer
00:35 ulf; XRevan86: if you ever manage to fully compile any GNU/Linux distribution of your choice with an ANSI C compliant compiler/toolchain
00:35 ulf; tell me
00:36 ulf; i bet there will be stories made up, in 2000 years, XRevan86 aka. Heracles had beaten the devil out of Athens
00:36 TR News; SCaLE 19x - Canonical, AREDN, and System76 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fLEhePcd6DI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/fLEhePcd6DI
00:36 TR Bot; SCaLE 19x - Canonical, AREDN, and System76 - Invidious
00:36 ulf; won't happen, GNU/FSF/BSD, they're corrupted beyond imagination
00:37 ulf; and they're merely the marketing facade of the Pentagon anyway
00:37 britney; Pentagon alert
00:37 XRevan86; ulf: And TinyCC is what?
00:37 ulf; XRevan86: i will eat a hamster alive if you show me any GNU/Linux which fully compiles with cproc
00:38 ulf; XRevan86: TinyCC isn't pentagon endorsed malware
00:38 TR News; "TechRepublic Academy" = spam account
00:38 ulf; hence you'll have little luck with this one too
00:38 XRevan86; ulf: I'm not claiming cproc can do that, all I'm saying is that it has better odds than the dead compiler TinyCC.
00:39 XRevan86; It's more of an anti-TinyCC argument than a pro-something argument.
00:39 ulf; tinycc isn't dead, and i am not limiting this approach to it either
00:39 ulf; it's "only" one first minimum acceptance testing, to see how far i'll get with "free software" promoted by GNU/FSF, together with an ANSI C capable compiler
00:40 XRevan86; So when is TinyCC getting C11 support?
00:40 TR News; T.J. Maxx in trouble for knowingly selling recalled products that can cause fires and kill babies. This is the natural result of Republican political corruption. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/03/t-j-maxx-in-trouble-for-knowingly-selling-recalled-products-that-can-cause-fires-and-kill-babies-this-is-the-
00:40 TR Bot; T.J. Maxx in trouble for knowingly selling recalled products that can cause fires and kill babies. This is the natural result of Republican political corruption. BaronHK's Rants
00:40 ulf; XRevan86: tinycc already got some C11 features on board, already had seen it fail with dev-libs/libffi btw.
00:40 ulf; which is remarkable, reason being, libffi is required by micros~1 python interpreter, and was poisoned with C11 it seems
00:41 ulf; no surprise i would say
00:42 XRevan86; "Some" is better than expected.
00:42 XRevan86; Of course that's compared to a compiler that has *some* C23 features on board.
00:43 ulf; XRevan86: you won't convince me with bold claims made. no talking, simply show me at least one GNU/Linux which can be fully compiled with cproc
00:43 ulf; or, at bare minimum, for example, compile dev-libs/libffi with cproc, and see for yourself
00:43 ulf; besides, you're missing another detail, which is GNU binutils, which tinycc can partially replace, because tcc to got a linker and assembler
00:44 XRevan86; It's like ye want to lift a house with a stool. I point you in the direction of a hydraulic jack and tell you it still won't lift a house.
00:44 ulf; apropos, some ASM inside musl-libc didn't pass with the arm-assembler tcc got... "surprise"
00:44 ulf; XRevan86: does cproc ship with a linker and assmbler for aarch32?
00:45 ulf; and even if, the system-integration into the build-system is what's sabotaged too by them, GNU/FSF
00:46 ulf; the problem isn't tinycc or cproc, the problem are GNU/FSF and their toolchain and buildsystem with anti-competitive sabotage involved
00:46 XRevan86; phanes: Of course activelow also wanted to build BaphometOS on ARM. Just a funny coincidence.
00:46 ulf; if you got a better explanation, too i'll eat a hamster alive then
00:47 TR News; Videos: Xorg, Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon, FLOSS Weekly, and SCaLE 19x Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167977
00:47 TR Bot; Videos: Xorg, Linux Mint 21 Cinnamon, FLOSS Weekly, and SCaLE 19x | Tux Machines
00:47 XRevan86; ulf: I think ye over-estimate human ability to accomodate every whim, and your whims are very specific.
00:48 britney; ulf, you probably eat hamsters all the time
00:48 XRevan86; But sure, let's think that every design decision that doesn't go with what ye are trying to do is an act of sabotage.
00:49 TR News; 9 New Linux Distros to Try Out in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167978
00:49 TR Bot; 9 New Linux Distros to Try Out in 2022 | Tux Machines
00:49 ulf; it's not any arbitrary design decisions, tinycc and cproc are ANSI C capable compilers
00:49 psydruid; not just any ARM, but aarch32 that will not even be featured on most of the latest ARM cores
00:49 XRevan86; And as we know every programmer out there is obsessed with strict standard compliance.
00:50 XRevan86; And will even allocate extra hours just to fit into the standard.
00:50 TR News; GlobalFoundries joins Googles open source silicon initiative | Google Open Source Blog https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/08/GlobalFoundries-joins-Googles-open-source-silicon-initiative.html
00:50 TR Bot; GlobalFoundries joins Googles open source silicon initiative | Google Open Source Blog
00:50 ulf; sure, GNU/FSF are more concerned with sabotage against standards compliance, just as micros~1 does or anyone else
00:50 XRevan86; or days even
00:51 TR News; [GIT PULL] tracing: Updates for 5.20 / 6.0 - Steven Rostedt https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803112014.7ffed04e@gandalf.local.home/ Source: kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803112014.7ffed04e@gandalf.local.home/
00:51 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] tracing: Updates for 5.20 / 6.0 - Steven Rostedt
00:51 psydruid; only Cortex-A510 still includes support for it, other than Cortex-A710 and older cores
00:51 ulf; GNOME... motif widgets are standardized by IEEE even... see how much they apreciated this type of "free software"
00:51 XRevan86; ulf: Or they like writing code with the extensions they developed specifically for their own convinience?
00:51 ulf; because with motif and an IEEE standard applied, GNU/FSF couldn't have sabotaged anyone as they wished to
00:51 TR News; [PATCH] drm/nouveau: recognise GA103 - Karol Herbst https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803142745.2679510-1-kherbst@redhat.com/ Source: Red Hat | ICBM | Kernel | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803142745.2679510-1-kherbst@redhat.com/
00:51 TR Bot; [PATCH] drm/nouveau: recognise GA103 - Karol Herbst
00:52 XRevan86; Software written with Motif is something I've always dreamt of.
00:52 XRevan86; I'm sure it'll work great with my HiDPI display.
00:52 ulf; the initial version of GIMP was implemented against motif
00:53 ulf; just another example, of the anti-competitive hack and slay
00:53 XRevan86; But of course HiDPI displays are an act of sabotage by the Big Monitor.
00:53 XRevan86; against Motif, GTK 2 and such.
00:54 psydruid; Monitor Lizard
00:54 XRevan86; psydruid: ARMv7 is getting dropped? Wow.
00:54 XRevan86; I guess I'm too used to the x86 way of doing things, i.e. indefinite support :)
00:54 ulf; apritzel already told me some ARMv9 will drop compatibility for aarch32
00:55 TR News; Simon Bisson, longtime Microsoft mole in the media, mentions "Linux" just to promote MICROSOFT again. Link omitted. Typical ZDNet. http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet#2022
00:55 TR Bot; ZDNet - Techrights
00:56 psydruid; XRevan86, ARMv8 is a completely different ISA from ARMv7, that's probably why
00:56 psydruid; I don't know ARMv7 and earlier
00:56 TR News; Notice how most people who promote WSL are Microsofters, i.e. people who HATE GNU/Linux. Because WSL is an attack on GNU/Linux. They know it.
00:57 psydruid; x86 works differently, it has extensions on top of extensions
00:57 psydruid; but don't quote me on that, you probably know better
00:58 TR News; Proprietary https://duo.com/decipher/nvidia-fixes-high-severity-flaws-in-graphics-drivers-for-windows-linux
00:58 TR Bot; NVIDIA Fixes High-Severity Flaws in Graphics Drivers For Windows, Linux | Decipher
00:58 TR News; "I want to install Linux openSUSE in a "multiboot" configuration. When I reboot my Mac Pro, and the "RefindPlus boot manager" main menu displays, I want Linux OpenSuse to be an option for one of the operating systems into which I can boot." https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/simpler-solution.2353588/
00:58 TR Bot; Simpler Solution ... ? | MacRumors Forums
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:00 XRevan86; psydruid: I really don't.
01:17 TR News; Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/
01:17 TR Bot; Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights
01:17 TR News; BuildStream 2 news Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167979
01:17 TR Bot; BuildStream 2 news | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; 16 Best Open-source Free Ghost Blog Themes for 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167980
01:18 TR Bot; 16 Best Open-source Free Ghost Blog Themes for 2022 | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; LibreOffice in Universidad Autnoma de la Ciudad de Mxico (UACM) and GTK4 GtkScrollbars Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167981
01:18 TR Bot; LibreOffice in Universidad Autnoma de la Ciudad de Mxico (UACM) and GTK4 GtkScrollbars | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; SUSE and Red Hat: Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167982
01:18 TR Bot; SUSE and Red Hat: Adaptable Linux Platform (ALP) and More | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; Proprietary Sofrware, Hardware, and Openwashing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167983
01:18 TR Bot; Proprietary Sofrware, Hardware, and Openwashing | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167984
01:18 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
01:22 schestowitz[TR2]; later today we'll hopefully have tuxmachines ready over gemini
01:23 schestowitz[TR2]; exciting times ahead
01:23 schestowitz[TR2]; but not many articles in techrights because of work on the broken system (pi microosd card)
01:30 TR News; Mesa 22.2-rc1 Released https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/tags/mesa-22.2.0-rc1
01:30 TR Bot; mesa-22.2.0-rc1 Tags Mesa / mesa GitLab
01:32 TR News; For the sixth time in 2 days, 'Linux Today' posts spammy "plugs" as "news". http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/
01:32 TR Bot; Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours (Updatedx4) | Techrights
01:36 TR News; Using "CLOWN" hype to stir up enthusiasm about surveillance inside one's home https://www.datanami.com/2022/07/28/how-the-migration-from-cloud-to-edge-powers-tomorrows-smart-homes/
01:36 TR Bot; How The Migration From Cloud to Edge Powers Tomorrows Smart Homes
01:37 TR News; Both types of vendor lock-in are very bad https://matt-rickard.com/dont-be-scared-of-vendor-lock-in/
01:37 TR Bot; ( status 308 @ https://matt-rickard.com/dont-be-scared-of-vendor-lock-in/ )
01:37 TR News; LOL, "Blockchain Security Engineer" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/07/28/shedding-smart-contract-storage-with-slither/
01:37 TR Bot; Shedding smart contract storage with Slither | Trail of Bits Blog
01:52 TR News; Techrights articles in Gemini are now fully restored (missed 4-5 months' worth until tonight)
01:54 TR News; "Theyll all be freely avaliable"... it was before, too https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/28/23280743/deepmind-alphafold-protein-database-alphabet
01:54 TR Bot; DeepMind found the structure of nearly every protein known to science - The Verge
01:55 TR News; Sounds like BS TBH https://www.idmt.fraunhofer.de/en/Press_and_Media/press_releases/2022/sound-personalisation-in-vehicles.html
01:55 TR Bot; Intuitive sound personalisation in vehicles - Fraunhofer IDMT
01:56 TR News; WWW has become hostile to blind people. They ought to turn to Gemini. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/technology/ai-web-accessibility.html
01:56 TR Bot; For Blind Internet Users, the Fix Can Be Worse Than the Flaws - The New York Times
01:57 TR News; "If you thought the Attorney-General dropping charges against Bernard Collaery was a sign that secret trials in Australian courts and tribunals were a thing of the past, you would be wrong." https://michaelwest.com.au/rex-patrick-on-timor-spying-albanese-governments-first-secret-trial-after-only-67-days/
01:57 TR Bot; Rex Patrick on Timor spying: Albanese governments first secret trial after only 67 days - Michael West
01:58 TR News; "Fred Brooks observed in Mythical Man Month that adding more programmers to a project often slowed it down." https://matt-rickard.com/brooks-in-reverse
01:58 TR Bot; Brooks in Reverse
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:02 TR News; Sam Varghese no longer covers GNU/Linux or rebuts Microsoft lies. It's shallow fluff such as https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html
02:02 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://itwire.com/mobility/oppo-releases-two-models-of-a77-5g-device-in-australia.html )
02:04 TR News; A good sign: "Valve Expanding Steam Deck Availability To Asian Markets" (fewer people will say, "can't move to Linux, no games")
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02:04 TR News; Managing time with Python https://unixcop.com/managing-time-with-python/
02:04 TR Bot; Managing time with Python - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
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02:07 TR News; "Martech"... another new, creeping buzzword. A lot of the time those allude to software patents and spying https://multichannelmerchant.com/marketing/martech-and-digital-experience-management-the-new-frontier/
02:07 TR Bot; Martech and Digital Experience Management: The New Frontier - Multichannel Merchant
02:21 TR News; This won't last 20 years. This won't be possible/cheap to repair. How is this "SMART"? https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-make-your-backyard-pond-smart/
02:21 TR Bot; How to make your backyard pond smart - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
02:21 TR News; "Smart" typically means very expensive, spying, or both
02:23 TR News; "Jest is the most used JavaScript testing framework. In this post, you will learn how to use Jest toHaveBeenCalledWith for testing various scenarios like a partial array, partial object, multiple calls, etc. Lets get started!" https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/07/jest-tohavebeencalledwith/
02:23 TR Bot; Using Jest toHaveBeenCalledWith for testing primitive data types and partial objects
02:26 TR News; There's a false (fabricated) rumour that Daniel Pocock was having a taboo relationship. This sort of libel, spread based no factual basis whatsoever, is unfair... even if you don't like the person or his style or what he writes. Curiously, the source of this libels seems to be Gulag. They did the same to me: http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
02:26 TR Bot; Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
02:28 TR News; You definitely never want to catch COVID-19. EVER! https://www.ninds.nih.gov/news-events/press-releases/small-nih-study-reveals-how-immune-response-triggered-covid-19-may-damage-brain
02:28 TR Bot; Small NIH study reveals how immune response triggered by COVID-19 may damage the brain | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
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02:30 TR News; Surveillance applications? https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/07/earable-uses-sonar-reconstruct-facial-expressions
02:30 TR Bot; Earable uses sonar to reconstruct facial expressions | Cornell Chronicle
02:31 TR News; Bootstrapping KaplanMeier Survival Curves https://two-wrongs.com/bootstrapping-kaplan-meier-confidence-intervals
02:31 TR Bot; Bootstrapping KaplanMeier Survival Curves
02:32 TR News; "Aside from how dumb is such argument in any sense, the idea of justifying anything morally by saying someone 300 years ago would approve of it is pathetic." https://alirezahayati.com/2022/07/30/founding-fathers-would-approve/
02:32 TR Bot; Founding fathers would approve! - Ali Reza Hayati
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-030822.txt
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02:39 TR News; "For some reason, rather than putting on a podcast, I turned on my transistor radio, switched through the shortwave bands, and actually managed to tune in Radio Havana." gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~visiblink/phlog/20220803
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-030822.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022
02:39 TR News; Corporations and Feigning Concern gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202208/20220803-corporations-and-feigning-concern.gmi
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-030822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-030822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-030822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-030822.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 03, 2022
02:40 TR News; "Bots are absolutely crippling the Internet ecosystem." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/61-botspam-apocalypse.gmi
02:41 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D663.jpg
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:41 TR News; When Media Was Social gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-08-03-when-media-was-social.gmi
02:42 TR News; Microsoft's Github itself is a lot worse than the allegation gemini://remyabel.srht.site/posts/2022-08-03.gmi
02:43 TR News; Misadventures with bash shell gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-08-03-Re:-misadventures-with-bash-shell.txt
02:44 TR News; "Currently I have my gemini subscriptions imported into Offpunk so whenever I sync I get all the new gemini posts I'm following downloaded locally and added to my "tour"." gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-08-03-gemfeedsoffline.gmi
02:44 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D312.jpg
02:45 TR News; Creating a NixOS live USB for a full featured APU router gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/nixos-with-live-usb-router.gmi
02:45 TR News; "The only problem that I have with that is that nobody sticks strictly to POSIX. Sure, they might keep the shell syntax POSIX compatible, but there are assumptions made about the base utilities present on your system." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/re_misadventures_with_bash_shell.gmi
02:47 TR News; "Sometimes I feel that most stuff simply is boring. I am not diagnosed with anything, but I find most people boring, most hobbies boring, most work boring" gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-02%20Attention
02:47 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D311.jpg
02:48 TR News; "I was reading a blog post on David Graeber's book Debt, by Marcia B. It's a good post, and an excellent reminder that I should finish reading the damn book, and also read the new one that got published posthumously." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-02%20Money
02:49 TR News; "I feel that's very similar to what Rob Conley has been saying all along about desktop publishing and liberal licenses allow the publication of material." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-02%20Tom%20Van%20Winkles%20Blog
02:49 TR News; Why I Use Bash gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-08-02-why-i-use-bash.gmi
02:49 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D662.jpg
02:50 TR News; "I also have started looking into RSS and subscribing to some favorite web-blogs. I am definitely interested in expanding more as time comes, but I cannot really find interesting reads out there." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/08/02/i-am-back/
02:52 TR News; RE: Misadventures with bash shell gemini://siiky.srht.site/programming/shell.gmi "As a sort of conclusion: for some reason bash is one of the most, if not the most, popular interactive shell. Probably because it's the default in many Linux distros"
02:53 MinceR; 04 015311 < XRevan86> But of course HiDPI displays are an act of sabotage by the Big Monitor.
02:53 MinceR; how big is it? 32"?
02:54 TR News; ELNYUVO Wordo: HYPHA gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-03.gmi
02:54 TR News; "So there are unfinished (unstarted, even) posts that, were I to finish and publish, would get the date I first created them on the index." gemini://siiky.srht.site/meta/dates.gmi
02:56 TR News; 1971 - Never a Dull Moment gemini://luke.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-08-03.gmi
02:56 TR News; "The opening is dark, but its important to contextualize the situation in which we find ourselves. Climate change has been badly mishandled, fascism is on the rise, and the ultra-rich are becoming more powerful." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220803_freedom_ownership_infrastructure_hope
02:57 TR News; "Very often this successfully plants the seed for a thriving interest in whatever the thing is, in that person. If it's something with utility value, I'll often rely on their relative expertise in the future." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1090
02:59 TR News; "Betamax was superior, Minidisc bested CDs, Idiocracy is a documentary. The fact that any good idea survives is miraculous." gemini://ed.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-08-02.gmi
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:03 TR News; "I could feel the worry reading this. Maintainers of all stripes have to put up with angry people who demand they fix and update software, often with no financial or development assistance." https://rubenerd.com/macvim-thanks/
03:03 TR Bot; Thanking Yee Cheng Chin for MacVim
03:05 TR News; "Europe has extreme weather, but the Greens approach is radical. The connection is well within grasp, but his ideology prevents him from doing so. Whether he sees it or not, this is exactly the same problem faced by his former colleagues; the ones he now scolds for costing him his seat." https://rubenerd.com/trent-zimmerman-writes-why-the-coalition-lost/
03:06 TR Bot; Trent Zimmerman writes why the Coalition lost
03:07 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 436466 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41957 Active: active (running) since Wed 2022-05-25 06:06:17 BST; 2 months 10 days ago
03:08 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:08 TR News; "Last week I participated in the annual RStudio conference which took place in Washington DC." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/some-takeaways-from-rstudioconf-2022/
03:08 TR Bot; takeaways from rstudio::conf 2022 | R-bloggers
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03:12 TR News; Steam Deck: You Can Finally Order it in Japan. Through Komodo, not Steam. With Higher Pricing. And No Availability Window. - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-you-can-finally-order-it-in-japan-through-komodo-not-steam-with-higher-pricing-and-no-availability-window/
03:12 TR Bot; Steam Deck: You Can Finally Order it in Japan. Through Komodo, not Steam. With Higher Pricing. And No Availability Window. - Boiling Steam
03:13 TR News; Tablet, chromebook shipments down globally for fourth quarter running https://itwire.com/hardware-and-storage/tablet,-chromebook-shipments-down-globally-for-fourth-quarter-running.html good for the planet
03:13 TR Bot; - Tablet, chromebook shipments down globally for fourth quarter running
03:15 TR News; Not a Yoking Matter - In Pursuit of Laziness https://manishearth.github.io/blog/2022/08/03/zero-copy-1-not-a-yoking-matter/ http://manishearth.github.io/blog/2022/08/03/zero-copy-2-zero-copy-all-the-things/ http://manishearth.github.io/blog/2022/08/03/zero-copy-3-so-zero-its-dot-dot-dot-negative/ Source: manishearth
03:15 TR Bot; Not a Yoking Matter (Zero-Copy #1) - In Pursuit of Laziness
03:15 TR Bot; Zero-Copy All the Things! (Zero-Copy #2) - In Pursuit of Laziness
03:15 TR Bot; So Zero It's ... Negative? (Zero-Copy #3) - In Pursuit of Laziness
03:16 TR News; Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/03/peppermint-os-release-2/
03:16 TR Bot; Links 03/08/2022: Peppermint OS Release | Techrights
03:19 phanes; wikipedia blowback should start
03:19 phanes; now
03:20 phanes; "completely unrelated"
03:20 AdmFubar; https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/22/08/03/1932218/how-the-us-gave-away-a-breakthrough-battery-technology-to-china?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
03:20 TR Bot; How the US Gave Away a Breakthrough Battery Technology To China - Slashdot
03:22 schestowitz[TR2]; "gave away"
03:22 schestowitz[TR2]; the "IP" mindset
03:22 schestowitz[TR2]; US gave away oxygen to China
03:22 schestowitz[TR2]; https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/07/28/shedding-smart-contract-storage-with-slither/
03:22 TR Bot; Shedding smart contract storage with Slither | Trail of Bits Blog
03:22 schestowitz[TR2]; "smart"
03:23 phanes; https://youtu.be/pVY1-v97Mic
03:23 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=pVY1-v97Mic
03:23 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | Evil Laugh - Invidious
03:24 schestowitz[TR2]; context?
03:26 phanes; https://youtu.be/y7kvGqiJC4g
03:26 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=y7kvGqiJC4g
03:26 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=y7kvGqiJC4g )
03:29 TR News; "Docker has transformed the way many people develop and deploy software. It wasn't the first implementation of containers on Linux, but Docker's ideas about how containers should be structured and managed were different from its predecessors" https://lwn.net/Articles/902049/
03:29 TR Bot; and the OCI container ecosystem [LWN.net]
03:30 phanes; docker is literally just an orchestration layer on top of lxc isn't it
03:30 phanes; its that thing that all the junior engineers pretend is an architectural panacea
03:31 schestowitz[TR2]; or revolution
03:32 TR News; RMS sdaid rust should be forked for this reason and be called something like "cRust" https://lwn.net/Articles/901816/
03:32 TR Bot; with the Rust trademark [LWN.net]
03:32 phanes; companies will eventually be worried about the money loss
03:32 phanes; alot of them will be fired eventually i think
03:33 phanes; and unfortunately when it stigmatizes they will have marked themselves by the opportunity cost of investing in a rarely appropriate model
03:34 schestowitz[TR2]; i don't follow
03:34 schestowitz[TR2]; <phanes> companies will eventually be worried about the money loss
03:34 schestowitz[TR2]; context?
03:34 phanes; its too early
03:34 schestowitz[TR2]; losses due to containerisation?
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; right now there's massive graft
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; like CHIPS
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; press MAX in https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt#historical
03:35 TR Bot; United States Government Debt - July 2022 Data - 1942-2021 Historical
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; USSR redux
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; it is screaming upwards
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; hundreds of millions of Americans sinking into debt
03:35 schestowitz[TR2]; personal debt
03:36 schestowitz[TR2]; not just this national debt
03:36 schestowitz[TR2]; while few oligarchs open the cookie jar and empty it
03:37 schestowitz[TR2]; let me screenshot it
03:37 schestowitz[TR2]; JS = cannot link to things
03:38 schestowitz[TR2]; you need to click, not link
03:38 schestowitz[TR2]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/debt-us.png
03:40 TR News; You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/us-debt/
03:40 TR Bot; Blog Archive You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When
03:41 phanes; yeah im watching it slowly happen and unsure of where to put my money since i know it'll be worthless in 2024
03:41 schestowitz[TR2]; not as steep https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/government-debt#historical
03:41 TR Bot; United Kingdom Public Sector Net Debt Ex Banks - July 2022 Data - 1975-2021 Historical
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; phanes: maybe assets that are materialk
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; the problem is, their value is diminished fast
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; and homes are a bubble
03:42 phanes; yeah i waited too long to go into real estate
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; so you overpay
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; too late now
03:42 schestowitz[TR2]; don't buy for 200,000 something that costs less than 50,000 to make
03:43 schestowitz[TR2]; the prices will get back to wqhere they used to be
03:43 schestowitz[TR2]; in the 2980s you could buy a home for many 10k
03:43 schestowitz[TR2]; *1980s
03:43 schestowitz[TR2]; it makes no sense that in a few decades the prices are like 100 times higher
03:43 phanes; well sure they will, but, no one will be buying and the banks may fail
03:43 phanes; i am thinking the japanese yen is safe
03:44 phanes; *safer
03:44 phanes; at least in terms of holding power
03:44 schestowitz[TR2]; nothing is "safe"
03:44 schestowitz[TR2]; "safe" is being able to do gainful work
03:44 schestowitz[TR2]; if you must
03:46 schestowitz[TR2]; least safe: skyrocketing living expenses
03:46 schestowitz[TR2]; kids, expensive home, mortgage...
03:46 TR News; Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167985
03:46 TR Bot; Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop | Tux Machines
03:51 phanes; maybe REITs on a DRIP
03:51 phanes; utilities ETFS
03:52 phanes; the problem with gold is you get screwed when you try to liquidate it again
03:53 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/gitlab_data_retention_policy/
03:53 TR Bot; GitLab plans to delete dormant projects from free accounts The Register
03:54 phanes; yeah gitlab sucks even for self-hosted
03:55 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/cdt_school_surveillance/
03:55 TR Bot; Groups ask US Education Dept to rein in student surveillance The Register
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04:04 TR News; July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/
04:04 TR Bot; Blog Archive July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout)
04:04 phanes; https://youtu.be/kh-f_bpTFaE
04:04 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=kh-f_bpTFaE
04:04 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | The Stranger - Invidious
04:05 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, August 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:05 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:05 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:05 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:26 TR News; United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/
04:26 TR Bot; Blog Archive United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020
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04:28 TR News; Paying technical debt in our accessibility infrastructure - Transcript from my GUADEC talk - Federico's Blog https://viruta.org/paying-technical-debt-transcript.html Source: viruta | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//viruta.org/paying-technical-debt-transcript.html
04:28 TR Bot; Paying technical debt in our accessibility infrastructure - Transcript from my GUADEC talk - Federico's Blog
04:29 TR News; How to install Counter-Strike 1.6 Server On Ubuntu/Debian https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-counter-strike-1-6-server-on-ubuntu-debian/ Source: unixcop | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//unixcop.com/how-to-install-counter-strike-1-6-server-on-ubuntu-debian/
04:29 TR Bot; How to install Counter-Strike 1.6 Server On Ubuntu/Debian - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
04:30 TR News; Track and target: FAQ on Myanmar CCTV cameras and facial recognition - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/myanmar-cctv-cameras/ Source: accessnow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/myanmar-cctv-cameras/
04:30 TR Bot; Track and target: FAQ on Myanmar CCTV cameras and facial recognition - Access Now
04:33 TR News; This year, or this summer, the risk of infection and also hospitalisation with COVID-19 (England and UK), is more than 10 times higher than it was 2 years ago when people still wore masks in a lot of places. We aren't tackling the crisis, we let the crisis become "normal"... because of corporate lobbying
04:34 TR News; There is nothing normal about this https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/us-debt/
04:34 TR Bot; Blog Archive You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When
04:34 TR News; "To put things in perspective, on 11-07-2022 no less than 2,005 people were admitted to hospital with COVID-19, compared to 3,008 in the whole of July 2020." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/
04:35 TR News; "Were fast approaching one millions hospitalisations, having already surpassed 200,000 deaths." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/
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04:37 TR News; "The history of modularization in JavaScript is a tedious one." https://matt-rickard.com/a-first-class-language-package-manager/
04:37 TR Bot; ( status 308 @ https://matt-rickard.com/a-first-class-language-package-manager/ )
04:38 TR News; "Jest has been the tool of choice for writing tests in JavaScript for years now. This guide will teach you how to run a single test using Jest. Lets get going!" https://geshan.com.np/blog/2022/07/jest-run-single-test/
04:38 TR Bot; Two useful ways to easily run a single test using Jest
04:40 TR News; "In 1970, robotics expert Masahiro Mori first described the effect of the "uncanny valley," a concept that has had a massive impact on the field of robotics. The uncanny valley, or UV, effect, describes the positive and negative responses that human beings exhibit when they see human-like objects, specifically robots." https://cacm.acm.org/news/262910-crossing-the-uncanny-valley/fulltext
04:40 TR Bot; Crossing the Uncanny Valley | News | Communications of the ACM
04:50 TR News; London in the 1980s https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/london-in-the-1980s/
04:50 TR Bot; Blog Archive London in the 1980s
04:56 TR News; BillBC celebrating 1984 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62243427
04:56 TR Bot; Cup to use drones to help protect stadiums - BBC News
04:57 TR News; "As brain implants become more commonplace and may eventually be used for non-medical purposes, some experts believe they must be regulated." https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/8/262912-neurotechnology-and-the-law/fulltext
04:57 TR Bot; Neurotechnology and the Law | August 2022 | Communications of the ACM
04:57 TR News; Hostplus, Canva and the year of super losses https://michaelwest.com.au/morningstar-top-performing-fund-superannuation-hostplus-canva/
04:57 TR Bot; Is Australia's top performing fund smoke and mirrors? Hostplus, Canva and the year of super losses - Michael West
04:58 TR News; [Old] "Data shows that Rajasthan is not the best place to live in if youre a Dalit. But what happens when a Dalit seeks justice? What are the perils and pitfalls, the long and often futile processes that he or she must face?" https://ruralindiaonline.org/en/articles/a-dalit-goes-to-court---2/
04:58 TR Bot; A Dalit goes to court 2
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05:02 TR News; "For an estimated one billion people around the world drinking coffee is a daily regime. Yet what many coffee lovers might not know is that they are often drinking a brew made, at least in part, from Brazilian beans." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62235741
05:02 TR Bot; The tech helping to bring you your morning coffee - BBC News
05:03 TR News; "On old friendships and new loneliness" https://www.datagubbe.se/constline/
05:03 TR Bot; Online In Real Life | datagubbe.se
05:04 TR News; "Suddenly my blog archive has grown from 18 entries to 74. At some point I intend creating a separate list of what I consider the posts which are most likely to be of longer-term interest, because there is now a definite divide between more substantial and ephemeral posts." https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/another_reorganisation.html
05:04 TR Bot; communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/another_reorganisation.html )
05:13 TR News; Some of today's parents have it all backwards. Children are their responsibility, their choice. Kids aren't indebted to their parents, they're oftentimes just 'vanity projects' of the parents. The media likes to distort or invert responsibilities for whatever reason.
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05:33 TR News; When the national debt was about 150 billion pounds, not 2.4 trillion pounds (an increase no less than 16 times in just over 32 years) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/london-in-the-1980s/
05:33 TR News; Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Digital_autonomy_and_the_GNOME_desktop.shtml
05:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Digital autonomy and the GNOME desktop
05:34 TR News; The Linux Foundation Welcome Jefferson Braswell as openIDL Project Executive Director... https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/leftovers_2.shtml
05:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers"
05:34 DaemonFC; https://www.phoronix.com/news/Lenovo-Linux-2022-State
05:34 TR Bot; Expects 30+ Platforms With Linux Support This Year, Both AMD & Intel Systems - Phoronix
05:34 TR News; Security: Malware, Mistakes, Patches, and Snake-oil https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/Security:_Malware,_Mistakes,_Patches,_and_Snake-oil.shtml
05:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: Malware, Mistakes, Patches, and Snake-oil
05:34 DaemonFC; Quite often, the "Linux" version not only costs more, it has half as much RAM and a slower processor.
05:34 TR News; Milandr MDR32F02FI is a RISC-V microcontroller for (Russian) electricity meters... https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/today%27s_leftovers.shtml
05:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
05:35 DaemonFC; That's what they tried to do with this laptop.
05:35 TR News; today's howtos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/howtos_2.shtml
05:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
05:35 TR News; IBM-sponsored (disclosure missing) marketing fluff... https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/03/Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff.shtml
05:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Fluff
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: yes, I noticed
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; Lenovoi pays many "Linux" events
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; while shilling Miceosoft
05:35 schestowitz[TR2]; and 'secure' killswitzch
05:36 DaemonFC; When people wipe Windows off of it instead of paying another $100 for the Linux model with half as much RAM and a slower CPU, they say nobody wanted Linux.
05:37 DaemonFC; I may never max out 16 GB of RAM, but why would I pay $100 more for a laptop with 8?
05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; because "Lenovo <3 Linux"
05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; and pays some "Linux" orgs
05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; BTW, I faced the same issue
05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; many buy "Windows" laptops
05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; and wipe Windows
05:38 schestowitz[TR2]; or Chromebooks
05:38 DaemonFC; The Windows model is cheaper and often comes with more hardware because Windows is a pig.
05:39 schestowitz[TR2]; the Microsoft surplus comes from monopoly rents
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05:41 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: you should do an article about it
05:41 schestowitz-TR; irc and social control media are less visible and hard to find a few years down the line
05:42 schestowitz-TR; although they can be less "work"
05:42 schestowitz-TR; yes, that is so the vendors can assert a reduced demand for "Linux" laptop
05:42 schestowitz-TR; computers and claim that "customers want" windows
05:43 schestowitz-TR; oops, wrong client, wait:
05:43 Techrights-sec; yes, that is so the vendors can assert a reduced demand for "Linux" laptop
05:43 Techrights-sec; computers and claim that "customers want" windows
05:43 schestowitz-TR; I was quoting before
05:43 Techrights-sec; s; similar for how they
05:43 Techrights-sec; really hide the option for having GNU/Linux pre-installed
05:45 Techrights-sec; It's getting to the point that if you want that option you have to go to
05:45 Techrights-sec; a specialist company like Slimbook or System76
05:47 DaemonFC; You're certainly better off.
05:47 DaemonFC; I can't imagine how they'd bungle the firmware worse than Lenovo does.
05:48 DaemonFC; It's crap firmware even to run Windows with. They tick all the boxes they need to and ship it. Microsoft doesn't care if it's good or not.
05:49 Techrights-sec; :(
05:49 Techrights-sec; ack
05:49 Techrights-sec; :(
05:49 Techrights-sec; ack
05:53 TR News; US economy is finished. It's drained to death with debt. No wonder US uses Ukraine to hack away at the other superpower and Microsoft Pelosi goes to Taiwan to provoke China. That's all they have left, like Microsoft trying to sabotage Linux FROM THE INSIDE.
05:56 TR News; [GIT PULL] MM updates for 5.20-rc1 - Andrew Morton https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803133541.18b82ec9344ed0e8b975fe5b@linux-foundation.org/ Source: linux foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803133541.18b82ec9344ed0e8b975fe5b@linux-foundation.org/
05:56 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] MM updates for 5.20-rc1 - Andrew Morton
05:57 TR News; Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - head & tail - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dBSUjmKEadA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dBSUjmKEadA
05:57 TR Bot; Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - head & tail - Invidious
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05:59 TR News; "Advantech has announced the AIMB-522 industrial Micro-ATX motherboard with AMD Ryzen Embedded 5000 Series Zen3 processors for AI image processing in automation and surveillance applications." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/04/amd-ryzen-embedded-5000-series-cpus-show-up-in-micro-atx-motherboard/
05:59 TR Bot; AMD Ryzen Embedded 5000 Series CPUs show up in Micro-ATX motherboard - CNX Software
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06:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I have Searx set up to use Qwant and DuckDuckGo as well as Google.
06:02 DaemonFC; That way if something's not responding, I still get plenty of results.
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06:03 DaemonFC; https://lcarsde.github.io/index.html
06:03 TR Bot; lcarsde - LCARS Desktop Environment
06:03 DaemonFC; LOL
06:04 DaemonFC; The copyright for LCARS is held by CBS, and they've been very VERY litigious about it.
06:05 DaemonFC; Of course they're hosting it on Microsoft GitHub. We'll see how long this lasts once CBS's attorneys hear about it.
06:05 DaemonFC; https://web.archive.org/web/20121027024019/http://code.google.com/p/moonblink/wiki/Tricorder
06:05 TR Bot; Tricorder - moonblink - A tricorder for Android. - Android Projects by Moonblink, including shared libraries. - Google Project Hosting
06:06 DaemonFC; Here's a project that GULAG took down when Play was still called Android Market.
06:06 DaemonFC; There also used to be an LCARS theme for Mozilla Suite, but they took it down due to legal threats.
06:09 DaemonFC; I never thought LCARS looked futuristic.
06:12 DaemonFC; I always thought that the Solaris Nimbus theme looked pretty nice. The "Java Desktop System" theme was a variant of this.
06:14 DaemonFC; http://linuxsysconfig.com/install-the-nimbus-theme-on-centos6rhel6/
06:14 TR Bot; the Nimbus theme on Centos6/RHEL6 | linuxsysconfig
06:14 DaemonFC; There was also a dark variant.
06:14 DaemonFC; It looked a lot sharper than all of these "Dark Modes".
06:27 DaemonFC; It seems there's this race to adopt "two options" for what your computer looks like, like Windows and Mac have imposed.
06:28 DaemonFC; For now you can still control your fonts and icons. When will GNOME get rid of that and claim users are too stupid to pick fonts and icons?
06:54 DaemonFC; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/02/celsius-investors-owed-4point7-billion-beg-judge-to-recover-life-savings.html
06:54 TR Bot; Celsius investors owed $4.7 billion beg judge to recover life savings
06:54 DaemonFC; LOL
06:54 DaemonFC; "Homeless, suicidal, down to last $1,000: Celsius investors beg bankruptcy judge for help"
06:54 DaemonFC; " Some of the 1.7 million Celsius customers ensnared by the alleged fraud are now directly pleading with the Southern District of New York to help them get their money back.
06:54 DaemonFC; It is the latest sign that bankruptcy court has become the de facto arbiter of crypto policy in the U.S."
06:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
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07:01 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/police-13-year-old-boy-dies-after-being-shot-by-attempted-car-theft-victim-on-south-side/
07:01 TR Bot; Police: 13-year-old boy dies after being shot by attempted car theft victim on South Side | WGN-TV
07:01 DaemonFC; Good.
07:01 matey; fwif
07:02 matey; fwiw rather
07:02 DaemonFC; One less carjacker in Chicago.
07:02 matey; daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=9559
07:02 matey; It is possible to boot OpenBSD with Secure Boot enabled by using the Linux Foundation's PreLoader & HashTool utilities. Now reboot the machine and enable Secure Boot. When the system starts the PreLoader will detect an unauthorised image (the OpenBSD bootloader) and will offer to start the HashTool so that the loader.efi can be authorised.
07:02 matey; this is nothing i want to bother doing, and i dont own any machines that mandate secure boot
07:02 DaemonFC; If you're old enough to pick up a gun and point it at someone, you're old enough to die by one.
07:02 matey; "by using the Linux Foundation's PreLoader" <- im certainly not interested in this
07:03 matey; but i thought this was interesting:
07:03 matey; " Now reboot the machine and enable Secure Boot. When the system starts the PreLoader will detect an unauthorised image (the OpenBSD bootloader) and will offer to start the HashTool so that the loader.efi can be authorised."
07:03 matey; i mean, lol
07:04 matey; im trying to figure out how that doesnt defeat the whole fucking purpose of secure boot
07:04 matey; but its too convoluted for me to 1. know or 2. give a fuck
07:05 matey; 2015: https://www.osnews.com/story/28416/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
07:05 TR Bot; 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality OSnews
07:06 matey; Windows 11 and Dual Booting: Secure Boot Can Be Disabled, But Has To Be ... www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/obcdt8/windows_11_and_dual_booting_secure_boot_can_be/
07:06 matey; 2015: Linuxs worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems
07:07 matey; BootHole attack work even with Secure Boot enabled because, for some devices or OS setups, the Secure Boot process doesn't cryptographically verify the grub.cfg file, allowing attackers to tamper ...
07:11 matey; One Can Speculate Why Windows-Friendly OEMs Start Enforcing Windows-Only Boot on Laptops (Microsoft Blocking BSD and GNU/Linux With UEFI) <- im getting sceptical about this whole headline
07:11 matey; 1. weve been here before (7 years ago)
07:11 matey; 2. only techrights is making this fuss
07:11 matey; while its easy to spin the narrative that ONLY techrights has this story, or ONLY techrights cares about this
07:12 matey; i dont believe that either. if this was really like techrights is saying, other people WOULD be concerned AND say something
07:12 matey; im sure theres some truth to this narrative. there always is.
07:12 matey; is techrights overblowing it several times over? probably.
07:12 DaemonFC; https://cases.stretto.com/public/x191/11749/PLEADINGS/1174908012280000000082.pdf
07:13 matey; would i be pissed if this were true? yeah.
07:13 DaemonFC; "a gross if not criminal"
07:13 matey; do i believe this story? not entirely.
07:13 DaemonFC; Well, the sad thing about these crypto scams is what they did is not illegal.
07:13 DaemonFC; As long as they aren't hiding assets from the bankruptcy court, then they're actually not committing bankruptcy fraud.
07:13 matey; when i used to try to get straight answers about this stuff, i believed in the hype
07:13 DaemonFC; Because there's no law requiring them to give any money back to their marks.
07:14 matey; so when i couldnt get straight answers, i assumed good faith
07:14 matey; i dont do that anymore. stuff like this just increases my scepticism.
07:15 matey; i wonder who is going to be honest about the rest of the facts, because techrights spins things until its a pain in the arse to deal with as a "source"
07:15 matey; and un-spinning things becomes a full time job
07:15 matey; you know, just so its possible to know wtf youre talking about, when talking about a tr story
07:15 matey; you have to go find out what things were like before roy ran them through the hype machine
07:16 matey; its pretty damned annoying, because it makes it pretty clear roy thinks all his readers are suckers.
07:16 matey; roy: its not like that
07:16 matey; yeah, whatever
07:16 matey; i know it is, but say what you like
07:16 DaemonFC; https://cases.stretto.com/public/x191/11749/PLEADINGS/1174907222280000000086.pdf
07:16 DaemonFC; "yet this week alone, they continue to
07:16 DaemonFC; pay their board members and their staff over $4 Million dollars, yet I'm stuck wondering
07:16 DaemonFC; how I can pay my rent next month"
07:17 DaemonFC; LOL
07:17 DaemonFC; He put $50,000 in "Celsius" and left only $1,000 in his checking account.
07:18 DaemonFC; Then he posted a screengrab of his "account balance" at "Celsius" (there's no actual money except to continue paying themselves, you know, which is why they filed bankruptcy), and of course the guy is using a Mac.
07:20 DaemonFC; Welcome Stephen, you have NaN dollars in your account.
07:20 DaemonFC; :)
07:23 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/uphold/comments/wdnwi7/uphold_mega_scam_thread/
07:23 TR Bot; Uphold Mega Scam thread : uphold
07:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, "HoldUp" is freezing people's accounts and taking their money. Then saying "terms of service violation".
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08:26 TR News; Shutting down Gemini for a moment, scheduled maintenance for testing and assembly
08:33 TR News; Common SASL Commands and Packages https://linuxhint.com/common-sasl-commands-packages/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhint.com/common-sasl-commands-packages/
08:33 TR Bot; Common SASL Commands and Packages
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08:50 TR News; ICBM Red Hat uploads its sample code to Microsoft's proprietary prison. Says a lot about attitude... https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/04/quick-java-application-setup-using-kafka-messaging
08:50 TR Bot; Quick Java application setup using Kafka messaging | Red Hat Developer
08:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167986 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/howtos_2.shtml
08:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
08:57 TR News; gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167987 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/gosling__Natural_Sounding_Text-to-Speech_in_the_Terminal.shtml
08:57 TR Bot; gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal | Tux Machines
08:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines gosling Natural Sounding Text-to-Speech in the Terminal
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09:00 TR News; Slax Linux Re-Introduces a Slackware Variant With Slax 15 Release - It's FOSS News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167969#comment-34505
09:00 TR Bot; Slackware-Based Slax Linux Is Back After 9 Years of Hiatus | Tux Machines
09:09 TR News; Linux Around The World: Denmark - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-denmark/ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/linux-denmark/
09:09 TR Bot; Around The World: Denmark - LinuxLinks
09:12 schestowitz[TR2]; Ariadne: bsdnow has a new episode
09:12 schestowitz[TR2]; you are mentioned in it https://www.bsdnow.tv/466
09:13 TR Bot; BSD Now 466: cat(1)s efficiency
09:13 TR News; "Contributing to Open Source Beyond Software Development, bringing TLS 1.3 to the Internet of Old Things, How efficient can cat(1) be, boost the speed of Unix shell programs, Running FreeBSD VNET Jails on AWS EC2 with Bastille, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/466
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10:02 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/04/irc-log-030822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/04/irc-log-030822/
10:02 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 03, 2022 | Techrights
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10:40 TR News; Linux Mint 21, codenamed Vanessa is now available for download, which was released on 31st July 2022 and is based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167848#comment-34506
10:40 TR Bot; New Release of Linux Mint (3 Flavours) | Tux Machines
10:41 TR News; "SwissArmyPi is a free open-source project (MIT licensed) that transform your Raspberry Pi, or even the Zero edition into a formidable hacking and pentesting tool." https://medevel.com/swissarmypi/
10:41 TR Bot; SwissArmyPi Converts your Raspberry Pi into a Strong Hacking Tool
11:00 TR News; Links 04/08/2022: Steam Deck in Asia | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/04/steam-deck-in-asia/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/04/steam-deck-in-asia/
11:00 TR Bot; Links 04/08/2022: Steam Deck in Asia | Techrights
11:00 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167988 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/programming_1.shtml
11:00 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
11:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
11:01 TR News; SwissArmyPi and Raspberry Pi Longevity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167989 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/SwissArmyPi_and_Raspberry_Pi_Longevity.shtml
11:01 TR Bot; SwissArmyPi and Raspberry Pi Longevity | Tux Machines
11:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines SwissArmyPi and Raspberry Pi Longevity
11:01 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167990 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/s_leftovers.shtml
11:01 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
11:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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11:28 DaemonFC; https://www.ladbible.com/news/mcdonalds-restaurant-bans-all-under18s-from-entering-after-5pm-20220730
11:28 TR Bot; McDonald's Restaurant Bans All Under-18s From Entering After 5pm
11:28 DaemonFC; Anti-social behavior.
11:28 DaemonFC; In the UK even!
11:29 DaemonFC; It's good to see the parents aren't doing their jobs and turning the kid over their knee anymore there too.
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11:29 DaemonFC; "Apply the board of education to the seat of the student body."
11:34 DaemonFC; https://crankers.com/gas-car-road-trips/
11:34 TR Bot; buys electric vehicle, but admits taking gas car on road trips because she's afraid - Crankers
11:34 DaemonFC; Just keep the Buick.....You're gonna need it.
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11:36 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/biden-tests-positive-for-5th-straight-day-after-rebound-covid-infection/
11:36 TR Bot; Biden tests positive for 5th straight day after rebound COVID infection | WGN-TV
11:37 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: two links:
11:37 DaemonFC; It's nice not to have to hear too much from Biden. He wanted to take a victory lap about the US finally managing to kill one of the terrorists that should have been dead in 1998.
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; 1) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/indifference-to-covid/ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/covid19-hospitalisation-statistics/
11:38 TR Bot; Blog Archive United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales, NI) COVID-19 Hospitalisation Rates Compared: July 2022 Eleven Times Worse Than July 2020
11:38 TR Bot; Blog Archive July COVID-19 Hospitalisation Statistics Compared: 3,008 in 2020, 18,513 in 2021, 47,018 in 2022 (This Past Month 16 Times More Than First Year of Coronavirus Breakout)
11:38 DaemonFC; They finally got the guy at the young age of 71.
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; the second is included at the end of (1):
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; 2)
11:38 DaemonFC; That's what happens to terrorists that fuck with us.
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; techrights-news> You definitely never want to catch COVID-19. EVER! https://www.ninds.nih.gov/news-events/press-releases/small-nih-study-reveals-how-immune-response-triggered-covid-19-may-damage-brain
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.ninds.nih.gov | Small NIH study reveals how immune response triggered by COVID-19 may damage the brain | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
11:38 TR Bot; Small NIH study reveals how immune response triggered by COVID-19 may damage the brain | National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; so if you thought biden was a senile
11:38 DaemonFC; They live a nice long life that gets cut short a few months by a $5 million drone strike.
11:38 schestowitz[TR2]; just wait till he starts fist-bumping the mirror
11:43 DaemonFC; Aw c'mon, man!
11:44 DaemonFC; Go easy on him. Not like his dog or the stairs leading up to Air Force One, or COVID which he's had all month including AGAIN right after saying how much progress we've all made.
11:44 DaemonFC; Or the inflation reports.
11:45 DaemonFC; Or the speculation over what "recession" means because we're in one and the Democrat cronies in the media don't want to call it. If Trump was in office, you'd have 24 hour wall to wall "news" about the "recession" (present tense).
11:46 DaemonFC; Biden deserves some credit. He did unite the country.
11:46 DaemonFC; He's less popular than Donald Trump, and not even polls arranged by Democrats can cover it up fully.
11:48 DaemonFC; WHen George W. Bush had approval numbers like this, Stephen Colbert called it "the backwash" like what happens when you swallow too much of your drink at once and some comes back up.
11:48 DaemonFC; Colbert doesn't say anything bad about Democrats.
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11:50 DaemonFC; Most of the media are dyed-in-the-wool Democrats. They support (or are) the people who flew to Jeff Epstein's island, masturbate on the evening news, and tell federal agents posing as someone's mother that they want to "teach" a 9 year old how to have sex.
11:50 DaemonFC; That wasn't just Microsoft Peter. It was that CNN guy too. What was his name?
11:52 DaemonFC; Always CNN. Like the same CNN with Chris Cuomo. The news covered for Andrew Cuomo for rape. He raped every woman around him. Big time Democrat. Part of the Clinton Administration in the 90s (HUD secretary) long before Governor of New York.
11:52 DaemonFC; The Democrats have all these sex scandals now, especially the ones involving kids and "dozens" of women.
11:53 DaemonFC; The worst they could dig up on Trump is that an adult woman had sex with him for $40,000.
11:55 DaemonFC; https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/12/30/sex-scandals-sinking-ratings-cnn-imploding-on-eve-of-streaming-launch/
11:55 TR Bot; Sex Scandals, Sinking Ratings: CNN Imploding on Eve of Streaming Launch
11:55 DaemonFC; CNN's streaming service, which they spent many millions on, collapsed and was shut down within a month of its launch.
11:56 DaemonFC; "John Griffin, who worked as a senior producer on Chris Cuomos show, was arrested this month on child sex trafficking charges. He has pleaded not guilty to the charges, which include allegations that he used Kik and Google Hangout to persuade parents to allow him to train their daughters to be sexually submissive."
11:56 DaemonFC; "Prosecutors claim that in one instance, Griffin arranged for a nine-year-old girl to travel from Nevada to his Vermont residence where she was directed to engage in, and did engage in, unlawful sexual activity."
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11:57 DaemonFC; CNN has all of these perverts and is the most tainted "news" outlet for letting Billshit all over the place.
11:57 DaemonFC; Can't be a coincidence.
11:58 DaemonFC; Chomo News Network
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12:01 DaemonFC; The page on Breitbart about Jackie Walorski dying in a car crash descended rapidly.
12:02 DaemonFC; Someone speculated with no evidence that the 55 year old in the other car "must have had a heart attack due to a COVID vaccine" and then like 10 other people agreed and someone said maybe the other driver was texting, and others said "Not a 55 year old!".
12:02 DaemonFC; My mom is 65 and texts while she drives.
12:03 DaemonFC; The accident investigators haven't said why the other driver crashed into Walorski's car, much less anything about a heart attack.
12:03 DaemonFC; (Which people have always had at any age.)
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12:10 TR News; Translate the web easily with a browser extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167991 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Translate_the_web_easily_with_a_browser_extension.shtml
12:10 TR Bot; Translate the web easily with a browser extension | Tux Machines
12:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Translate the web easily with a browser extension
12:11 TR News; Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167992 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Peppermint_OS_Now_Also_Offers_a_Systemd-free_Devuan_Variant!.shtml
12:11 TR Bot; Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant! | Tux Machines
12:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant!
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12:13 DaemonFC; <techrights-news> Translate the web easily with a browser extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167991 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Translate_the_web_easily_with_a_browser_extension.shtml
12:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Bitch to Boss, from Mozilla.
12:13 schestowitz[TR2]; how many users?
12:13 schestowitz[TR2]; 200?"
12:13 DaemonFC; 762 users in the entire world agree that feeewings being hurt is definitely the worst problem on the Web.
12:14 DaemonFC; 762 downloads rather.
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; how many employees does moz still have?
12:14 horseface; baclofen
12:14 horseface; I mean high.
12:14 DaemonFC; Maybe 700 of them were mjg59_ downloading it himself.
12:14 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe some of them are testers
12:14 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR2]> how many employees does moz still have?
12:14 DaemonFC; It's hard to say. They don't develop Firefox in the open anymore.
12:14 DaemonFC; It's all on secret Google things and Slack.
12:16 horseface; I had to go to court recently for driving a hotel's golf cart into their swimming pool... you see... I thought that it would be hilarious... and I was correct! it was funny as hell... anyway... I walked into the courthouse and the security metal detector sounded zimmm or whatever noise they make... so I was asked to empty my pockets! out comes a syringe and a spoon!!! ahah... they were all like: O_O meanwhile I was like rolling along the
12:16 horseface; floor, laughing.
12:19 DaemonFC; When you go to Holiday Inn Club Vacations and someone's kids run you out of the hot tub, so you come back in a golf cart and drive it into the hot tub.
12:19 DaemonFC; Why didn't I think of this?
12:22 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167993 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Android_Leftovers.shtml
12:22 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
12:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
12:22 DaemonFC; Just explain to the judge calmly, yet firmly, that the Illinois Department of Public Health code prohibits people under 16 from using a public hot tub and that you were just creatively enforcing the Health Code.
12:23 DaemonFC; It shouldn't have come to this, you agree, however if the hotel staff weren't going to enforce the Health Code, who would?
12:23 DaemonFC; So it works just like a Citizen's Arrest, when you think about it.
12:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Mozilla disguises layoffs by moving Firefox development behind a privacy fence.
12:27 DaemonFC; You can't read their mailing lists or chats anymore.
12:28 DaemonFC; So you have no idea who or how many are active.
12:29 horseface; high schestowitz[TR2]
12:29 horseface; :-*
12:33 schestowitz[TR2]; 0/
12:33 schestowitz[TR2]; sorry, busy, maing tuxmachjnes work over gemini
12:33 schestowitz[TR2]; e.g. gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/howtos_2.gmi
12:34 DaemonFC; I tried out "GNOME Console" which Ubuntu says they want to switch to instead of GNOME Terminal.
12:34 DaemonFC; Console seems to just be Terminal with the features scooped out.
12:34 TR News; Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167994
12:34 TR Bot; Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment | Tux Machines
12:34 DaemonFC; It can pretty much only open new tabs and load your user shell, and that's it.
12:35 DaemonFC; It's things like this that make me consider going to KDE.
12:35 DaemonFC; They say they have no plan to stop developing GNOME Terminal because "power users" need it.
12:36 DaemonFC; I'm guessing that means the developers of GNOME themselves don't want to use Console. So what is Console for?
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13:00 XRevan86; MinceR: "how big is it? 32"?" <- 12.5'' :)
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13:06 schestowitz[TR2]; <DaemonFC> It's all on secret Google things and Slack.
13:06 schestowitz[TR2]; oh dear
13:06 schestowitz[TR2]; Slack??
13:06 ulf; puff-piece on german tv: "TeamViewer" software vendor, member of "Bitkom" (foundation) insists on "BlueCard" Visa permits to hire "highly qualified staff"
13:06 ulf; this is what german economy needs... anti-competitive shitware
13:07 ulf; for this "BlueCard" an academic diploma degree is necessary, and a contract with annual salary of 56K shitcoins
13:10 TR News; Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment Tux Machines https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/While_still_an_unofficial_flavor_Ubuntu_Unity_2204_was_released_back_in_April_2022.shtml
13:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 Released with the Latest Unity 7.6 Desktop Environment
13:15 TR News; Censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/indonesia-wields-new-censorship-law-to-block-yahoo-paypal-and-several-gaming-websites/ | Source: Techdirt
13:15 TR Bot; Wields New Censorship Law To Block Yahoo, Paypal, And Several Gaming Websites | Techdirt
13:15 TR News; "Young people are invited to feel like patients rather than students." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/02/university-gives-history-students-trigger-warning-graphic-miracles/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
13:15 TR Bot; History students warned accounts of religious miracles may disturb them
13:15 TR News; "Chakar made the announcement on Twitter on July 31." https://www.duvarenglish.com/award-winning-opera-singer-pervin-chakar-barred-from-taking-stage-at-turkish-university-over-kurdish-songs-news-61089 | Source: duvaR
13:15 TR Bot; Award-winning opera singer Pervin Chakar barred from taking stage at Turkish university over Kurdish songs
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13:26 TR News; #HowTo Remove White Space from the File Name in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167995 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/How_to_Remove_White_Space_from_the_File_Name_in_Linux.shtml
13:26 TR Bot; How to Remove White Space from the File Name in Linux | Tux Machines
13:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Remove White Space from the File Name in Linux
13:31 TR News; First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167996 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/First_Release_Candidate_of_Krita_5.1.0_is_out.gmi
13:31 TR Bot; First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Tux Machines
13:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out
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15:32 AdmFubar; https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-maternity-stillbirth-vaccines-pregnancy#1380083
15:32 TR Bot; COVID-Related Stillbirths Didnt Have to Happen ProPublica
15:35 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/great-barrier-reef-sees-fragile-coral-comeback/
15:35 TR Bot; Great Barrier Reef sees fragile coral comeback - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
15:49 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/why-the-massive-china-police-database-hack-is-bad-news-for-surveillance-states-everywhere/
15:49 TR Bot; The Massive China Police Database Hack Is Bad News For Surveillance States Everywhere | Techdirt
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15:58 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/the_many_derivatives_of_cpm/
15:58 TR Bot; The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system The Register
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16:03 TR News; GitLab Plans to Save Up to $1M by Deleting Inactive Projects by Free Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167997 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/GitLab_could_turn_out_to_be_the_villain_we_never_expected_with_this_new_po.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/GitLab_could_turn_out_to_be_the_villain_we_never_expected_with_this_new_po.gmi
16:03 TR Bot; GitLab Plans to Save Up to $1M by Deleting Inactive Projects by Free Users | Tux Machines
16:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines GitLab Plans to Save Up to $1M by Deleting Inactive Projects by Free Users
16:04 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167998
16:04 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:06 AdmFubar; https://suddendisruption.blogspot.com/2007/08/not-going-to-burning-man.html
16:06 TR Bot; Sudden Disruption: NOT going to Burning Man?
16:10 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/the-women-calling-out-apples-handling-of-misconduct-claims/
16:10 TR Bot; The women calling out Apples handling of misconduct claims | Ars Technica
16:14 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/253818
16:14 TR Bot; Russian teacher denounced by student, sentenced to five years probation over army fakes
16:14 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/253824
16:14 TR Bot; Prosecutor asks Russian court to sentence Olympic champion Brittney Griner to 9.5 years in prison
16:15 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-3-08-04
16:15 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 3 Telegraph
16:16 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/4/7361815/
16:16 TR Bot; Russian citizen killed by Russian shelling in Ukraine | Ukrainska Pravda
16:17 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/4/7361830/
16:17 TR Bot; Toretsk: Russian strike hits crowd at bus stop, many dead | Ukrainska Pravda
16:17 XRevan86; https://eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/4/7144417/ Sherlock Holmes is on the case.
16:17 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:17 XRevan86; "Russia Aims to Fabricate Evidence in Olenivka - U.S."
16:22 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Android2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Android2.gmi
16:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
16:23 TR News; The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167999 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/The_many_derivatives_of_the_CPM_operating_system.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/The_many_derivatives_of_the_CPM_operating_system.gmi
16:23 TR Bot; The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system | Tux Machines
16:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines The many derivatives of the CP/M operating system
16:25 TR News; microsoftianism https://www.salon.com/2022/07/30/rick-ross-deprogrammer-profile/
16:25 TR Bot; to rescue a cult victim: An interview with Rick Ross, professional deprogammer | Salon.com
16:27 TR News; "and ive gotta be honest, only toxic people allow it" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020822.html#tAug%2002%2005:09:39
16:27 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 02, 2022
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16:28 TR News; "The Vim editor is like an ocean wonderful and joyful to be in, but there will always be things you don't know" https://linuxhandbook.com/pro-vim-tips/ | Source: Linux Handbook
16:28 TR Bot; 11 Pro Vim Tips to Get Better Editing Experience
16:31 TR News; "A little while ago Valve showed the current top 10 most played games on Steam Deck and now we have an update on what people are currently playing." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/heres-the-current-most-played-games-on-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
16:31 TR Bot; the current most-played games on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
16:31 TR News; "Some huge news for the future of the Steam Deck, as Valve has announced a teaming up with Komodo for the release of the Steam Deck in Asia." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/valve-teams-with-komodo-to-bring-the-steam-deck-to-asia/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
16:31 TR Bot; teams with Komodo to bring the Steam Deck to Asia | GamingOnLinux
16:40 TR News; "Good news web slingers, as Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered from Insomniac Games and Nixxes Software has been Steam Deck Verified" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/marvels-spider-man-remastered-is-steam-deck-verified-ahead-of-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
16:40 TR Bot; Spider-Man Remastered is Steam Deck Verified ahead of release | GamingOnLinux
16:43 TR News; "Love The Walking Dead? Now you can pick up a whole bunch of the games thanks to the Walking Dead 10th Anniversary Bundle." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/get-a-bunch-of-the-walking-dead-in-the-latest-humble-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/get-a-bunch-of-the-walking-dead-in-the-latest-humble-bundle/
16:43 TR Bot; a bunch of The Walking Dead in the latest Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux
16:43 TR News; "Space Bandit is a new Native Linux top-down shooter where you're running through cramped corridors on some space ship." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/space-bandit-is-a-top-down-shooter-with-slick-tunes-and-a-hotline-miami-vibe/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
16:43 TR Bot; Bandit is a top-down shooter with slick tunes and a Hotline Miami vibe | GamingOnLinux
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16:52 TR News; "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge is an absolutely fantastic beat 'em up throwback and now perhaps even better" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-gets-a-nice-big-stability-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
16:52 TR Bot; Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge gets a nice big stability update | GamingOnLinux
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16:52 TR News; "Enter the Panchaku is the latest big update to the rather great game Dead Cells" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/the-30th-update-for-dead-cells-is-out-now-as-enter-the-panchaku/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
16:52 TR Bot; 30th update for Dead Cells is out now as 'Enter the Panchaku' | GamingOnLinux
16:53 TR News; (trying to) finally get off social media + announcing my flight log gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-01-08.gmi
16:55 TR News; Offpunk 1.5 :AHuge Thank You to Packagers gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-08-04-offpunk15.gmi
16:56 TR News; gemini
16:56 TR News; Petri Nets Log #004 gemini://siiky.srht.site/petri_nets/log004.gmi
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17:03 TR News; "Yet another event is happening now on Steam with the Survival Fest" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-survival-fest-is-live-now-until-august-8th/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
17:03 TR Bot; Survival Fest is live now until August 8th | GamingOnLinux
17:16 TR News; "there's a graphics bump coming thanks to all the work in the drivers with it hitting Vulkan" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/raspberry-pi-4-gets-a-graphics-bump-with-vulkan-12-conformance/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
17:16 TR Bot; Pi 4 gets a graphics bump with Vulkan 1.2 conformance | GamingOnLinux
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17:28 TR News; "much awaited Linux Mint 21 has been released." https://www.linuxbuzz.com/install-linux-mint-21-step-by-step/ | Source: Linux Buzz
17:28 TR Bot; How to Install Linux Mint 21 (Vanessa) Step by Step
17:32 TR News; NVIDIA launches Jetson AGX Orin 32GB Production Module for $999 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167970#comment-34507
17:32 TR Bot; NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 32GB production module is now available | Tux Machines
17:33 TR News; "European Astro Pi Challenge" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/astro-pi-mission-space-lab-2021-22-the-results/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
17:33 TR Bot; Astro Pi Mission Space Lab 2021/22: The Results - Raspberry Pi
17:39 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/13/real-estate-fails/
17:39 TR Bot; 40 Of The Most Chaotic Real Estate Listings From The "Broke Agent" Instagram Account
17:47 TR News; Public Pension Funds https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/pension-funds-divestment-nso-pegasus/ | Source: The Nation
17:47 TR Bot; Public Pension Fundsthe Next Battleground for Human Rights | The Nation
17:48 TR News; More surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/why-the-massive-china-police-database-hack-is-bad-news-for-surveillance-states-everywhere/ | Source: Techdirt
17:48 TR Bot; The Massive China Police Database Hack Is Bad News For Surveillance States Everywhere | Techdirt
17:48 TR News; "consumer location data is routinely abused bya long list of bad actors" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/tim-hortons-doles-out-some-coffee-pocket-change-in-response-to-location-data-scandal/ | Source: Techdirt
17:48 TR Bot; Hortons Doles Out Some Coffee Pocket Change In Response To Location Data Scandal | Techdirt
17:51 TR News; "Here are three methods I use to capture screenshots on Linux..." https://opensource.com/article/22/8/screenshots-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
17:51 TR Bot; ways to take screenshots on Linux | Opensource.com
17:53 TR News; Lengthen the life of your hardware with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168000 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Lengthen_the_life_of_your_hardware_with_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Lengthen_the_life_of_your_hardware_with_Linux.gmi
17:53 TR Bot; Lengthen the life of your hardware with Linux | Tux Machines
17:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Lengthen the life of your hardware with Linux
17:58 TR News; Net Neutrality https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/telecom-lobbyists-at-wispa-ncta-throw-hissy-fit-over-doomed-net-neutrality-bill/ | Source: Techdirt
17:58 TR Bot; Lobbyists At WISPA, NCTA Throw Hissy Fit Over Doomed Net Neutrality Bill | Techdirt
17:59 TR News; "Charter Communications and several major record labels have settled their lawsuits over the ISP's handling of repeat copyright infringers" https://torrentfreak.com/charter-settles-piracy-liability-lawsuits-with-major-record-labels-220804/ | Source: Torrent Freak
17:59 TR Bot; Settles Piracy Liability Lawsuits With Major Record Labels * TorrentFreak
18:00 TR News; "Twitch has flagged Project Zomboid's in-game police siren sound effect as copyright infringement." https://torrentfreak.com/twitch-falsely-flags-project-zomboids-in-game-siren-as-copyright-infringement-220803/ | Source: Torrent Freak
18:00 TR Bot; Falsely Flags Project Zomboid's In-Game Siren as Copyright Infringement * TorrentFreak
18:01 TR News; Et tu, Canal+? Internet police? https://torrentfreak.com/free-f1-streaming-sites-latest-targets-in-french-piracy-blocking-campaign-220803/ | Source: Torrent Freak
18:01 TR Bot; F1 Streaming Sites Latest Targets in French Piracy Blocking Campaign * TorrentFreak
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18:33 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Humble Bundle, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168001 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Games:_Steam_Deck,_Humble_Bundle,_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Games:_Steam_Deck,_Humble_Bundle,_and_More.gmi
18:33 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Humble Bundle, and More | Tux Machines
18:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, Humble Bundle, and More
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18:36 TR News; FB is crumbling https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/as-expected-facebook-is-no-longer-interested-in-paying-news-orgs-to-post-news-on-facebook-that-no-one-wants/ | Source: Techdirt
18:36 TR Bot; Expected, Facebook Is No Longer Interested In Paying News Orgs To Post News On Facebook That No One Wants | Techdirt
18:37 TR News; Trumpism means censorship https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/03/study-says-trumps-truth-social-is-much-more-aggressive-and-much-more-arbitrary-in-moderating-content/ | see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2017/07/29/trump-blocks-me-in-twitter/
18:37 TR Bot; Says Trumps Truth Social Is Much More Aggressive, And Much More Arbitrary, In Moderating Content | Techdirt
18:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive Trump Blocks Me in Twitter
18:45 TR News; Pro Publica should disclose upfront it's taking bribes from COVID-19 profiteer and Famous Criminal Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-misinformation-pregnancy-vaccine-testing
18:45 TR Bot; Why Misinformation About COVID Vaccines and Pregnancy Isnt Going Away ProPublica
18:46 TR News; COVID-Related Stillbirths Didnt Have to Happen ProPublica https://www.propublica.org/article/covid-maternity-stillbirth-vaccines-pregnancy Source: propublica, bribed by Bill Gates to push agenda and leave him alone
18:46 TR Bot; COVID-Related Stillbirths Didnt Have to Happen ProPublica
18:51 MinceR; (cat) (audio) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/kTBOpaB
18:51 TR Bot; Attack of the rare Venus Fly Cat - rimgo
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19:07 TR News; Summer Camp Survival Guide https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/the-hackaday-summer-camp-survival-guide/ | Source: Hackaday
19:07 TR Bot; Hackaday Summer Camp Survival Guide | Hackaday
19:08 TR News; Pi Zero https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/hackable-20-modem-combines-lte-and-pi-zero-w2-power/ | Source: Hackaday
19:08 TR Bot; $20 Modem Combines LTE And Pi Zero W2 Power | Hackaday
19:09 TR News; NVIDIA Unleashes The First Jetson AGX Orin Module http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167970#comment-34508
19:09 TR Bot; NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin 32GB production module is now available | Tux Machines
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19:43 TR News; "The language is far from reassuring." https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/03/facial-recognition-technology-down-under/ | Source: Scheerpost
19:43 TR Bot; Recognition Technology Down Under scheerpost.com
19:47 TR News; Schumer https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/04/chuck-schumers-war-on-free-speech/ | Source: Scheerpost
19:47 TR Bot; Ritter: Chuck Schumers War on Free Speech scheerpost.com
19:49 TR News; Oops, IRA: Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 (IRA) https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/03/manchin-approved-budget-bill-no-progressive-panacea-its-hell-lot-better-nothing | Source: Common Dreams
19:50 TR Bot; Opinion | The Manchin-Approved Budget Bill Is No Progressive Panacea But It's a Hell of a Lot Better Than Nothing | Max B. Sawicky
19:50 TR News; Moderna patents and graft... charging money for stuff the public paid to develop https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/03/moderna-revenue-shows-pandemic-has-been-lucrative-smash-and-grab-big-pharma | Source: Common Dreams
19:50 TR Bot; Moderna Revenue Shows Pandemic Has Been 'Lucrative Smash-and-Grab' for Big Pharma
19:51 TR News; On inflation https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/03/bernie-sanders-explains-good-bad-and-very-ugly-inflation-reduction-act | Source: Common Dreams
19:51 TR Bot; Opinion | Bernie Sanders Explains the Good, the Bad, and the Very Ugly of the Inflation Reduction Act | Bernie Sanders
19:51 TR News; Graft https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/03/sanders-blasts-huge-giveaway-fossil-fuel-industry-manchin-deal | Source: Common Dreams
19:51 TR Bot; Sanders Blasts 'Huge Giveaway' to Fossil Fuel Industry in Manchin Deal
19:53 TR News; If the homelessness were bailed out like the billionaires, there would be almost no homelessness. But the super-rich don't mind the homeless people's pain. They call them "losers" and ask the lower class to blame homeless "criminals" instead of rich plunderers. The symptom, not the disease.
19:53 TR News; turbolift https://hackaday.com/2022/08/03/next-floor-geosynchronous-satellites-orbiting-laboratories/ | Source: Hackaday
19:53 TR Bot; Floor: Geosynchronous Satellites, Orbiting Laboratories | Hackaday
20:02 TR News; Rent https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/03/rent-skyrocketing-everywhere-and-us-tenants-are-paying-price | Source: Common Dreams
20:02 TR Bot; Opinion | Rent Is Skyrocketing Everywhere and US Tenants Are Paying the Price | Eleanor J. Bader
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20:39 TR News; Bad idea because it is proprietary, spyware, and controlled by Microsoft, which wants to control you ttps://idroot.us/install-visual-studio-code-linux-mint-21/
20:43 TR News; 11 Pro Vim Tips to Get Better Editing Experience https://linuxhandbook.com/pro-vim-tips/ Source: LinuxHandbook | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhandbook.com/pro-vim-tips/
20:43 TR Bot; 11 Pro Vim Tips to Get Better Editing Experience
20:45 TR News; Terrible advice: using proprietary software controlled by Microsoft and censored by RIAA sends the wrong signal to worthy employers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWC_1nISLKE
20:45 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ZWC_1nISLKE
20:45 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Why you should build your Portfolio in Github to gain a Linux Job - Invidious
20:46 schestowitz[TR2]; matey will love this bullshit ^^
20:46 schestowitz[TR2]; want a Linux job?
20:46 schestowitz[TR2]; CHOOSE MICROSOF!
20:46 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah, makes sense...
20:46 schestowitz[TR2]; what job? azure?
20:46 schestowitz[TR2]; azure layofss off its own staff
20:47 TR News; With its chips recently adopted by Google Cloud and HPE, Ampere Computing is giving ARM-based chips the kind of server breakthrough that has eluded other chip companies. These companies' backing provides a big boost to the entire ARM server ecosystem.
20:47 TR News; ARM Server Chips Get a Boost with Amperes Altra - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/arm-server-chips-get-a-boost-with-amperes-altra/ Source: thenewstack | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thenewstack.io/arm-server-chips-get-a-boost-with-amperes-altra/
20:47 TR Bot; ARM Server Chips Get a Boost with Amperes Altra The New Stack
20:48 TR News; Michael Larabel showing off bribes from AMD again, but shows only one layer of the crate of "gifts" https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMD-EPYC-Linux-6.0-Early-Tests
20:48 TR Bot; Early Look At AMD EPYC Performance Gains On Linux 6.0 - Phoronix
20:48 schestowitz[TR2]; psydroid2: ^
20:50 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacmRlH4OIQ
20:50 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=sacmRlH4OIQ
20:50 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Least Eventful Day in Britain - Invidious
20:52 TR News; Pi Projects and News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168002 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Pi_Projects_and_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Pi_Projects_and_News.gmi
20:52 TR Bot; Pi Projects and News | Tux Machines
20:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Pi Projects and News
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20:59 TR News; Links 04/08/2022: Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 and Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/04/ubuntu-unity-22-04-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/04/ubuntu-unity-22-04-1/
20:59 TR Bot; Links 04/08/2022: Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 and Ubuntu Unity 22.04.1 | Techrights
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21:00 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168003 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/today_s_howtos.gmi
21:00 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
21:04 TR News; Sim City: 31 Years Young gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-08-04-sim-city-31-years-young.gmi
21:04 TR News; Re: Misadventures with bash shell gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220804-re-bash-misadventures.gmi
21:05 TR News; Asynchronous messaging still has its place gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/2022-08-04-2.gmi
21:06 TR News; "Earlier this week I created Where in the World?, a daily geography puzzle game where you have to guess the country from a picture." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-08-04-where-in-the-world.gmi
21:06 TR News; "Micro-blogs, character limits and similar enforced behavior by modern platforms are not good for self expression or development of thought." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/2022-08-04.gmi
21:06 schestowitz[TR2]; Ariadne: ^^
21:08 TR News; "Nobody who opposes liberatory ideologies has the courage to be honest and tell us, I like living in a world with rulers and subjects, haves and have-nots, and I will fight to keep things this way." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220804_human_nature
21:08 TR News; "The Gemini-space is really versatile and offers countless ways to interact with, one aspect I love so much on Gemini is this direct thread that links a capsule to another one!" gemini://warp.geminispace.club/~freezr/gemlog/2022-08-04-relog.gmi
21:09 TR News; "I visited my family this week in New Jersey. It's my grandpa's birthday so we had a little reunion over here. My siblings are on summer vacation as well, so it's really nice to see everyone in one place." gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-3-visiting-family-plan9-bootcamp
21:10 TR News; "The Geminaut" Jukebox gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1092
21:11 psydroid2; https://www.techpowerup.com/297232/gigabyte-first-to-launch-an-arm-based-motherboard-with-256-cpu-cores
21:11 TR News; KDE neon 20220804 is released today https://neon.kde.org/ good for NON-production system if you fancy KDE/Plasma
21:11 TR Bot; KDE neon
21:11 schestowitz[TR2]; psydroid2: they should send phoronix some motherboards
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21:12 schestowitz[TR2]; and get glowing reviews
21:12 schestowitz[TR2]; and he'll tell me it's OK, it's normal, because Windows reviewers also take expensive bribes
21:12 psydroid2; https://www.gigabyte.com/nl/Enterprise/Server-Motherboard/MP72-HB0-rev-10
21:12 TR Bot; (rev. 1.0) | Server Motherboard - GIGABYTE Netherlands
21:13 schestowitz[TR2]; psydroid2: does not even name a price
21:13 psydroid2; schestowitz[TR2], they don't need to bribe anyone, their chips are already getting adopted based on merit
21:13 schestowitz[TR2]; so it must be very high
21:13 schestowitz[TR2]; their slaes people will convince you to sell the home, buy a mobo
21:13 schestowitz[TR2]; and be a hobo
21:13 psydroid2; Ariadne probably knows prices for these boards
21:13 psydroid2; well, this is enterprise stuff
21:14 psydroid2; at home you can use a raspberry pi
21:14 psydroid2; or some other affordable board
21:14 schestowitz[TR2]; "Contact our sales team
21:14 schestowitz[TR2]; "
21:14 schestowitz[TR2]; to find out pricing
21:14 schestowitz[TR2]; today I messed around physiocally with my 4-core raspi
21:14 schestowitz[TR2]; boxed it properly
21:15 schestowitz[TR2]; hoping I won't have to rebuild it a third time in 20 months
21:15 schestowitz[TR2]; no more microsd cards
21:15 schestowitz[TR2]; fast r+w but brittle
21:15 ulf; schestowitz[TR2]: try nilfs2 or fsfs filesystem
21:15 ulf; f2fs
21:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I might post about GNOME Console.
21:15 DaemonFC; There's not really much to talk about except how useless it is.
21:16 DaemonFC; About all it can do is open your default user shell and have tabs.
21:16 psydroid2; I switched to a USB SATA SSD after my microSD got damaged
21:16 DaemonFC; They've completely gutted GNOME Terminal.
21:16 DaemonFC; I have no idea why they would do that. People who aren't power users probably aren't using the Terminal any more often than they have to.
21:16 DaemonFC; They're just ruining it for everyone.
21:17 schestowitz[TR2]; ulf: too late
21:17 schestowitz[TR2]; also, the classic rapi oses use ext
21:18 schestowitz[TR2]; I have a growing pile of dead sd cards
21:18 psydroid2; GNOME is committing suicide.fyi
21:20 ulf; psydroid2 ?
21:20 psydroid2; ulf ?
21:20 DaemonFC; Sex trafficking and causing people to have heart attacks by telekinesis (pinching their arteries shut) and causing a car crash.
21:21 DaemonFC; These are just SOME of the things Debian is up to!
21:21 ulf; psydroid2: committing suicide?
21:21 psydroid2; ulf, what are you asking from me?
21:21 DaemonFC; Daniel Pocock is a clown. If there are any good talking points about Debian anywhere on his site, they're gone as soon as you delve into this shit.
21:21 ulf; i wanted to know what you were trying to say about GNOME
21:22 DaemonFC; The fact that MICROS~1 and LOL! No! Vo is "sponsoring" DebConf is enough of a scandal.
21:22 Ariadne; DaemonFC: it is not very nice to talk about mental illness so dismissively
21:22 DaemonFC; They want Linux to work so much that mjg59_ now admits what we all knew since I exposed them in 2016.
21:22 psydroid2; GNOME is becoming increasingly irrelevant and by doing these kinds of things they are only accelerating their demise
21:23 DaemonFC; <Ariadne> DaemonFC: it is not very nice to talk about mental illness so dismissively
21:23 DaemonFC; The guy is obviously some sort of paranoid schizophrenic.
21:23 Ariadne; yes, and? the problem is the disruption and harassment he does to people, not his mental illness :)
21:24 XRevan86; https://i.ibb.co/ypv33SH/image.png What a strange coincidence!
21:25 XRevan86; (ulf is claiming to NOT be activelow, by the way)
21:25 psydroid2; obviously he isn't
21:26 TR News; Hyperbola - News: Milky Way v0.4.1 install medium release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168004 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Hyperbola_News_Milky_Way_v0_4_1_install_medium_release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Hyperbola_News_Milky_Way_v0_4_1_install_medium_release.gmi
21:26 TR Bot; Hyperbola - News: Milky Way v0.4.1 install medium release | Tux Machines
21:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Hyperbola - News: Milky Way v0.4.1 install medium release
21:27 ulf; XRevan86: no idea? what's wrong with f2fs and nillfs2 used as flash friendly file systems?
21:27 TR News; Krita 5.1 Is Close to Final Release, RC1 Is Available for Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167996#comment-34510
21:27 TR Bot; First Release Candidate of Krita 5.1.0 is out | Tux Machines
21:28 XRevan86; ulf: Ye're just another Eastern German who hates GCC, believes in Atlantis, cares about TinyCC and NILFS2. Definitely a completely different person.
21:28 ulf; i am not an eastern german
21:28 XRevan86; Also builds an OS for an ARM device.
21:28 XRevan86; ulf: What's the name of that OS, by the way?
21:28 schestowitz[TR2]; ENIGMA
21:29 XRevan86; I was thinking "TotallyNotBaphometOS"
21:29 psydroid2; GuillotineOS
21:29 schestowitz[TR2]; he wants Putin to invades Poland and then Germany to liberate him from Merkel and her successor
21:29 schestowitz[TR2]; which is outright bizarre
21:30 schestowitz[TR2]; psydroid2: AggiOS
21:30 schestowitz[TR2]; Haggis
21:31 XRevan86; ulf: Ye caught me, this nickname never claimed to be Eastern in my memory, I was wondering if ye'd notice.
21:32 schestowitz[TR2]; merkel had her issues, but wanting putin over merkel inside germany is insane
21:33 ulf; ???
21:33 schestowitz[TR2]; anyway, enough about politics
21:33 schestowitz[TR2]; it's what techpol exists for
21:35 *psydroid2 once walked on the Merkelstrasse
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; state?
21:53 schestowitz[TR2]; ststen?
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21:57 TR News; Pine64's Pinebook Pro Linux laptop is finally shipping again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167936#comment-34511
21:57 TR Bot; Open source laptop PineBook Pro is shipping again | Tux Machines
21:58 TR News; Security updates for Thursday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/903816/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/903816/
21:58 TR Bot; updates for Thursday [LWN.net]
21:59 TR News; </p></blockquote></li> xxxxxxxxxxx <li><h5><a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/903816/">Security updates for Thursday [LWN.net]</a></h5> <blockquote><p>Security up
21:59 TR News; NIST/NSA keep promoting fake crypto (back doors) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/sike-broken.html
21:59 TR Bot; Broken - Schneier on Security
22:00 ulf; meanwhile, trying to bootstrap gcc-4.7 with tinycc again... reached compilation phase, arm-tcc eating
22:00 schestowitz[TR2]; aggi does his own encryption
22:00 schestowitz[TR2]; in microsot shithub
22:00 schestowitz[TR2]; with nsa manipulating the code, binaries if so it wishes
22:01 schestowitz[TR2]; the security chieft at github?
22:01 schestowitz[TR2]; 20-year NSA veteran
22:01 schestowitz[TR2]; that telle you something ^_^
22:01 schestowitz[TR2]; *tells
22:02 schestowitz[TR2]; I happen to agree with aggi that a lot of the hardware chain, software toolchains, and ciphers are compromised
22:02 schestowitz[TR2]; and have been for decades
22:02 ulf; btw... gcc-4.7 passed initial compilation with arm-tcc, to the point where it compiles itself with an intermediate xgcc binary emitted from arm-tcc ... looks good
22:03 schestowitz[TR2]; making a better cipher and hosting it in shithub, however, is dancing into the lion's cage
22:03 ulf; i mean, it's not complete to defend against "trust attack", because there is some important pieces missing elsewhere
22:03 schestowitz[TR2]; and if he's looking or better ciphers to spread nazi shit, then I don't condone that
22:04 ulf; alot of work remaining
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; the end goal being what?
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; cost?
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; security?
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; autonomy?
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; better efficiency?
22:05 ulf; ideally, i can remove the entire GNU malware toolchain
22:05 TR News; Qubes OS 4.0 has reached EOL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168005 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Qubes_OS_4_0_has_reached_EOL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Qubes_OS_4_0_has_reached_EOL.gmi
22:05 TR Bot; Qubes OS 4.0 has reached EOL | Tux Machines
22:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Qubes OS 4.0 has reached EOL
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; ulf: alpine has no gnu toolchain by default
22:05 schestowitz[TR2]; you can add it
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22:07 TR News; Here lies the Data Protection Bill, 2021 https://internetfreedom.in/here-lies-the-data-protection-bill-2021/ Source: internetfreedom | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/here-lies-the-data-protection-bill-2021/
22:07 TR Bot; Here lies the Data Protection Bill, 2021
22:07 TR News; New subsystem for acceleration devices - Oded Gabbay https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAFCwf11=9qpNAepL7NL+YAV_QO=Wv6pnWPhKHKAepK3fNn+2Dg@mail.gmail.com/
22:07 TR Bot; New subsystem for acceleration devices - Oded Gabbay
22:09 ulf; schestowitz[TR2]: Mapple LLVM/clang is c++ malware too
22:10 TR News; Phoronix today: "Over the past year AMD has been hiring more on the client side for Linux improvements." Oh year... like Microsoft and Pluton? SHUTTING OUT LINUX? Preventing it from booting? Eat up your EPYC, Michael, with a side dish/beer labelled "Kool-Aid". You shill for Linux-hostile corporations to help sell defective, back-doored, inefficient chips.
22:11 ulf; both Mapple llvm and GNU toolchain are heavily pentagon vendor-locked
22:11 TR News; Thunderbird ISNT from 2003 anymore! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VFHLUPjmzgg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/VFHLUPjmzgg
22:11 TR Bot; Thunderbird ISN'T from 2003 anymore! - Invidious
22:12 TR News; Nala is a New Package Manager for Debian and Ubuntu - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QD6J9sEejdw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/QD6J9sEejdw
22:12 TR Bot; Nala is a New Package Manager for Debian and Ubuntu - Invidious
22:12 AdmFubar; https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/bird-and-lime-scooters-sent-249-people-in-los-angeles-to-the-er-last-year.412583/
22:12 TR Bot; Bird And Lime Scooters Sent 249 People In Los Angeles To The ER Last Year | Wilders Security Forums
22:13 TR News; "Lenovo's big Linux ambitions." Overcharging and BLOCKING IT FROM BOOTING??? https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149452/linux-action-news-252/
22:13 TR Bot; Linux Action News 252 | Jupiter Broadcasting
22:18 TR News; Running a Debuginfod server alongside pulp https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/running-debuginfod-server-alongside-pulp Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/running-debuginfod-server-alongside-pulp
22:18 TR Bot; Running a Debuginfod server alongside pulp
22:18 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/04/cctv_exposure_tool/
22:18 TR Bot; This open-source code measures your exposure to CCTV The Register
22:19 TR News; Tiny audience: "In July, we published 17 posts. The site had 5,500 visits from 3,548 unique viewers. 1,850 visits came from search engines, while 111 came from Twitter and 48 came from Phoronix." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-july-2022/
22:19 TR Bot; Community Blog monthly summary: July 2022 Fedora Community Blog
22:21 TR News; "Heres how to avoid getting 'nibbled to death by ducks'," says a person who petitioned to remove the founder of GNU/Linux and the FSF... from the FSF https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/it-leadership-best-advice-starting-new-role
22:21 TR Bot; IT leadership: My best advice for starting a new role | The Enterprisers Project
22:21 psydroid2; https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merea_iela_(Rga)
22:21 TR Bot; Merea iela (Rga) Vikipdija
22:21 TR News; Once again transformation and "transformational CIO" as code for vendor lock-in https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/digital-transformation-how-guide-innovation-leaders
↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/digital-transformation-how-guide-innovation-leaders
22:21 TR Bot; Digital transformation: How to guide innovation leaders | The Enterprisers Project
22:22 psydroid2; https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_deutschsprachigen_Straennamen_in_Riga
22:22 TR Bot; Liste der deutschsprachigen Straennamen in Riga Wikipedia
22:24 TR News; seeded snaps fail to launch after OEM install https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1983528
22:24 TR Bot; Bug #1983528 seeded snaps fail to launch after OEM install : Bugs : snapd package : Ubuntu
22:24 psydroid2; Jim Duckherd
22:25 schestowitz[TR2]; i like his word
22:25 schestowitz[TR2]; and his articles
22:25 schestowitz[TR2]; but him signing the rms libel
22:25 schestowitz[TR2]; come on
22:25 schestowitz[TR2]; did he even check the facts?
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; that's like me signing a bill gates petition
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; saying he should resign
22:26 schestowitz[TR2]; for being a reptile or something
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22:27 DaemonFC; https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261#comment-809506
22:27 TR Bot; #261: gnome-terminal -> gnome-console - fedora-workstation - Pagure.io
22:27 TR News; Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 11.4 https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/08/04/kiwi-tcms-114/ Source: kiwitcms | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/08/04/kiwi-tcms-114/
22:27 TR Bot; Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 11.4
22:30 TR News; This air cleaner activates when it hears shop tools running | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/04/this-air-cleaner-activates-when-it-hears-shop-tools-running/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/04/this-air-cleaner-activates-when-it-hears-shop-tools-running/
22:30 TR Bot; This air cleaner activates when it hears shop tools running | Arduino Blog
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22:31 TR News; GitGuardian launches ggcanary project to help detect open-source software risks | CSO Online https://www.csoonline.com/article/3668193/gitguardian-launches-ggcanary-project-to-help-detect-open-source-software-risks.html Source: csoonline | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.csoonline.com/article/3668193/gitguardian-launches-ggcanary-project-to-help-detect-open-source-software-risks.htm
22:31 TR Bot; GitGuardian launches ggcanary project to help detect open-source software risks | CSO Online
22:33 TR News; Keynote sold to Microsoft by the Linux Foundation, yet again, to promote proprietary software under the guise of "Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging Strategy" https://linuxfoundation.org/press-release/the-linux-foundation-announces-keynote-speakers-for-open-source-summit-europe-2022/
22:33 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation Announces Keynote Speakers for Open Source Summit Europe 2022 - Linux Foundation
22:35 TR News; LF is not a joke. LF is very harmful. Harm is not amusing. http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
22:35 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
22:35 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04.1 delayed until August 11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168006 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Ubuntu_22_04_1_delayed_until_August_11.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Ubuntu_22_04_1_delayed_until_August_11.gmi
22:35 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04.1 delayed until August 11 | Tux Machines
22:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.04.1 delayed until August 11
22:35 DaemonFC; I love how Microsoft crammed MSN (with stupid bots putting clickbait on it since they fired everyone) into the Windows 11 task bar and you can't remove it.
22:35 DaemonFC; It's like Microsoft took a shit that overflowed the toilet and called it Windows 11.
22:35 TR News; LF = corporate self-defence... from critics
22:36 AdmFubar; https://eclecticlight.co/2022/08/04/virtualisation-on-apple-silicon-macs-8-how-apple-limits-vms/
22:36 DaemonFC; They've had some really lousy GUIs, but this one is the worst.
22:36 TR Bot; Virtualisation on Apple silicon Macs: 8 How Apple limits VMs The Eclectic Light Company
22:36 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: their market share is collapsing
22:36 DaemonFC; They waited for the shit that completely overflowed the toilet and crashes if it can't contact ad servers until mjg59_'s fake security finally locked you to Windows.
22:36 schestowitz[TR2]; they don't know what to do
22:37 schestowitz[TR2]; to stop the bleeding
22:37 schestowitz[TR2]; so they try to make us bleed too
22:37 schestowitz[TR2]; like Microsoft pelosi pandering in Taiwan
22:37 schestowitz[TR2]; to stir shit up
22:37 schestowitz[TR2]; as US empire collapses
22:37 schestowitz[TR2]; and China rises
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/04/us-debt/
22:38 TR Bot; Blog Archive You Know Your Economy Spins Out of Control When
22:38 techrights_guest|24; Hello. Great video post: Attacking BSD and Linux in Name of Security. I started moving backward in hardware some years ago now. The newest hardware in my house is 2014. Even so, there was quite a bit of adjustments needed to run Linux. All of the questionable settings are disabled, and every hardware platform is set to compatible IPO
22:38 techrights_guest|24; Achi. Prior I had 2017 (ish) hardware and these machines, were boarderline with controls. The bios was unreal, and previous controls I had in earlier models, were removed. M$ has been incrementally retaining ownership of the hardware in each "upgrade" cycle. This just brings it front and center, out in the open, not so obfuscated. In
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; Donald Biden
22:38 techrights_guest|24; essence they are moving to now licence the use of the hardware and the software. With ownership of said hardware being retained by M$, as well as the software. So it becomes a lease rather than a buy situation.
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; the end of US
22:38 schestowitz[TR2]; hi, <techrights_guest|24>
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22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; <techrights_guest|24> yes, this is true
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; rental as a model
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; but their sales are to OIEMs
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; in bulk
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; the clients are not PC users
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; they are OEMs
22:39 schestowitz[TR2]; like Lenovo and Dell
22:40 TR News; Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168007 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi
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22:41 psydruid; My latest general purpose hardware is from 2017
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; we need to mboycott more OEMs
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; to exert pressure
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; like DaemonFC did with Lenoivo over the years
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; made them go bonkers
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; foxconn also
22:41 psydruid; I've been postponing any hardware acquisitions after that
22:41 schestowitz[TR2]; they hate it when their name /reputation is harmed in the minds of millions
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; costs them a lot
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; like boycottnovell
22:42 DaemonFC; I doubt we'll collapse. We may slide into near irrelevance like the UK.
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; cheaper to hire some linux programmers
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; to fix their shit
22:42 schestowitz[TR2]; than to lose millions in slae
22:42 DaemonFC; With Bogus Johnson going from Homeless Spikes to making it illegal to sleep anywhere except some place you have money for.
22:43 DaemonFC; Most US states aren't as bad as Boris yet. Illinois law theoretically makes solving homelessness a priority for the state and says they can't be denied any rights due to their status.
22:43 psydruid; the only UEFI machines I have are my main laptop and a few other ones I was gifted or bought used to give me some time to stay afloat until alternatives emerged
22:43 DaemonFC; In reality, the Chicago police beat them and set all their things on fire.
22:43 DaemonFC; Very equal. The state tries hard to "solve" it.
22:44 DaemonFC; The truth is even in the worst of times, most people still have a job and want politicians to get the homeless away from them where they don't have to help or feel bad or get asked for change.
22:44 psydruid; Bonus Johnson is always the life of the Covid party
22:45 DaemonFC; Like California, where mjg59_ lives, which actually had a law making it a felony to bring a homeless person into the state.
22:45 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court struck it down in 1999.
22:45 DaemonFC; Then California tried to make sleeping in public illegal.
22:45 DaemonFC; That was more recent.
22:45 DaemonFC; Fucking assholes. It's a state of fucking assholes.
22:46 ulf; i thought he is an Irish person, this is what wikipedia notes
22:46 DaemonFC; I mean, every state has a lot of them, but California is like 99%.
22:46 DaemonFC; They're so stupid too.
22:46 DaemonFC; Dump billions of gallons of Lake Mead on almonds.
22:46 DaemonFC; "DAMN YOU CLIMATE CHANGE!"
22:46 DaemonFC; *bans cars*
22:47 DaemonFC; I think most people are ready to have California fall into the ocean.
22:47 DaemonFC; I just hope it waits until Nancy Pelosi is back visiting her constituents.
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22:47 TR News; Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Nala, and Thunderbird Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168009 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Shows_Videos_Linux_Action_News_Nala_and_Thunderbird.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Shows_Videos_Linux_Action_News_Nala_and_Thunderbird.gmi
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22:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I caught some flak on Facebook for my comments about Jackie Walorski dying in the car crash. I wrote what she did in Congress and said I'm not glad she's dead, but I am glad she won't be in Congress anymore.
22:48 DaemonFC; You know, the same comment the Cancel Stallman people went after him with. That one didn't really fly.
22:48 schestowitz[TR2]; sI remember
22:48 schestowitz[TR2]; yes, rms reused a statement
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; from a mayor iirc
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; about steve jobs
22:49 DaemonFC; Richard J. Daley (Chicago)
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; ok
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; it's a good comment
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; or pattern of comment
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; not glad... dead
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; glad... gone
22:49 DaemonFC; I would have been just as happy about the not in Congress part if she had just lost an election or resigned.
22:49 DaemonFC; Any intelligent person can see what you meant.
22:49 schestowitz[TR2]; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm
22:49 TR Bot; BBC NEWS | Technology | It's not the Gates, it's the bars
22:50 schestowitz[TR2]; By Richard Stallman
22:50 schestowitz[TR2]; iirc, that was before epstein's buddy satarted bribing bbc
22:50 schestowitz[TR2]; not bbc will go after rms
22:50 schestowitz[TR2]; not let rms speak
22:51 DaemonFC; She twice voted to keep Trump from being impeached, and then wrote to the Supreme Court urging them to allow Texas to invade Pennsylvania using the court system, and overturn their election.
22:51 DaemonFC; So I'm very pleased she won't be in Congress.
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; afair point
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; FB unhappy?
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; then f facebook
22:51 schestowitz[TR2]; it's not a govt.
22:51 DaemonFC; She didn't deserve to be there.
22:53 TR News; HydraUSB3 RISC-V MCU board combines USB 3.0 with HSPI and SerDes high-speed interfaces - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/04/hydrausb3-risc-v-mcu-board-combines-usb-3-0-with-hspi-and-serdes-high-speed-interfaces/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware
22:53 TR Bot; HydraUSB3 RISC-V MCU board combines USB 3.0 with HSPI and SerDes high-speed interfaces - CNX Software
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: at least you didn';t say she deserved to be 65 feet under
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; typo
22:53 schestowitz[TR2]; but a funny typo
22:54 DaemonFC; Trump was 65 feet under, in a bunker, when he called the Governors weak during the riots.
22:54 schestowitz[TR2]; BB
22:54 schestowitz[TR2]; BiBi
22:54 schestowitz[TR2]; Bunker Bitch
22:54 schestowitz[TR2]; what MinceR calls him
22:55 TR News; "One easy thing that we can do to help the poor developer that needs to find what changed in the code that stopped their printer to work properly, is to keep the project bisectable." https://andrealmeid.com/post/2022-07-31-keep-bisect/
22:55 TR Bot; Keeping a project bisectable | tony is coding
22:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], You can get away with insulting someone on Facebook and not being banned for it. If you delete it before they complain and the system "reviews it", then you're fine.
22:56 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/trending/cracker-barrel-responds-after-facebook-post-about-plant-based-meat-causes-online-uproar/
22:56 TR Bot; Cracker Barrel responds after Facebook post about plant-based meat causes online uproar | WGN-TV
22:56 DaemonFC; The NEWS!
22:56 DaemonFC; UPROAR OVER FAKE NASTY MEAT!
22:57 DaemonFC; https://thehill.com/homenews/news/538991-bill-gates-rich-nations-should-move-to-100-percent-synthetic-beef/
22:57 schestowitz[TR2]; News orgs: FB kills us
22:57 TR Bot; Bill Gates: Rich nations should move to 100 percent synthetic beef | The Hill
22:57 DaemonFC; I had a triple whopper today.
22:57 DaemonFC; I know I shouldn't, but om nom nom.
22:57 techrights_guest|24; "sales are oems" I agree with this, and certainly PC users can pick and choose their own parts, the problem comes when the parts manufcaturers get some kind of price cut for falling in line. There are alot of choices still for hardware, It is my hope it will not flow downhill to the PC parts market. Still, if adopted creates yet another
22:57 techrights_guest|24; barrier. I work quite a bit with BSD, and I do not think I could tolerate a peice of hardware that does not allow the install of an OS of my choosing. People who love computing, do their own builds. People who need one to just get by, are on oems, so it makes sense for M$ to target oems, they arent the tech savy, and by just building in that
22:57 techrights_guest|24; one barrier, it creates high probablility those users would never make the jump to linux. ever. They dont need to make a barrier for the tech savy, they just lock out the people who "might make the jump" . I think They are making this move to capture the would be converts.
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; also news orgs: let's write "articles" about what hillbillies say in FB, pretend it's news
22:58 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/04/please-dont-normalize-copyright-as-a-tool-for-censorship/
22:58 TR Bot; Dont Normalize Copyright As A Tool For Censorship | Techdirt
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; or trademarks
22:58 schestowitz[TR2]; see Debian :-)
22:58 DaemonFC; "Synthetic meat" is pretty gross.
22:58 DaemonFC; It's also not healthier than real meat.
22:59 DaemonFC; It's a sodium bomb that doesn't have any B vitamins.
22:59 schestowitz[TR2]; <techrights_guest|24> yes, exactly
22:59 DaemonFC; The Impossible Whopper patties have twice as much salt in them as real Whopper patties. They have to put a ton of salt in the fake burgers because otherwise they taste like cardboard.
22:59 DaemonFC; They don't want to spend money flavoring them with something more expensive than salt, so SALT SALT SALT.
23:00 DaemonFC; Very "healthy" much green.
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23:01 DaemonFC; Real burgers taste okay without a lot of salt on them. You can sprinkle some on to enhance flavor that's already there. When you do "synthetic meat" you start on the penalty line. It tastes like cardboard.
23:01 DaemonFC; Nobody would eat it like that.
23:01 DaemonFC; I bought some "Jimmy Dean Plant Based Breakfast Sandwiches" and they tasted so bad I nearly vomited.
23:01 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: depends
23:02 DaemonFC; Vegans are on there going "OMG SO TASTY!!!!".,
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe the ones you allude to aren't the proper ones
23:02 DaemonFC; Err, vegetarians rather.
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; but the synthetic crap
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; you could get veg-based patties
23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; based on mushrooms and condiments
23:02 DaemonFC; Vegans are complaining about egg and cheese, which is the only part of the sandwich (along with the english muffin) I didn't throw in the trash.
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23:02 schestowitz[TR2]; there's a new shop near us where they sell vegaaaan burgers
23:03 schestowitz[TR2]; I did not check the price
23:03 schestowitz[TR2]; looked from the outside only, 2 days ago..
23:03 ulf; just wanted to ask
23:03 psydruid; My mom is a GNU/Linux user, so I will always make sure to find her some hardware that works with the operating system
23:03 ulf; because this is the reason i avoid the vegan food: price
23:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], YES!!!! OMG YES!! There's a place over in Vernon Hills that has a "burger" that's a mushroom patty.
23:03 DaemonFC; And they actually made it taste okay.
23:03 schestowitz[TR2]; we buy some discounted
23:03 DaemonFC; They need to do that instead of Bill's ground up cardboard.
23:04 schestowitz[TR2]; like less than half price
23:04 phanes; vegan food kills way more animals than the meat industry does
23:04 schestowitz[TR2]; rianne stocks them up in the freezer
23:04 schestowitz[TR2]; phanes: insects
23:04 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/former-mcdonalds-employees-ignoring-subpoenas-in-fight-for-15-surveillance-investigation-labor-board-says/
23:04 TR Bot; Former McDonalds employees ignoring subpoenas in Fight For $15 surveillance investigation, labor board says | WGN-TV
23:04 DaemonFC; "Last week, the NLRB asked a federal judge in Chicago to enforce two subpoenas sent last March to Kristen Stewart-Gibbs and Carsten Frank, former members of McDonalds Global Intelligence Team."
23:04 DaemonFC; Yeah, shitty low wage employers all have their own KGB.
23:05 DaemonFC; Walmart has one.
23:05 DaemonFC; It's called "Labor Relations Hotline".
23:05 phanes; i never understood why people would choose to eat only food that costs more life and pain to create than meat at the cost of their own health
23:06 TR News; [GIT PULL] x86/sgx for v6.0 - Dave Hansen https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803213356.3396773-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com/ Source: linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220803213356.3396773-1-dave.hansen@linux.intel.com/
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23:06 phanes; some people are more genetically disposed for high meat diets too so it could dramatically decrease quality of life while seriously curtailing longevity
23:06 schestowitz[TR2]; flowers too are living things
23:06 phanes; in my case i could subsist almost perpetually just shy of ketosis and stay in good health, it's bread that kills people with my profile
23:06 schestowitz[TR2]; people are elective ion what they deem pain
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; *selective
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; some decided fish don't feel pain
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; like when they suffocate to death very slowly
23:07 phanes; im okay with my food experiencing pain
23:07 schestowitz[TR2]; phanes: why don't you eat your dog?
23:07 phanes; because he's not food
23:08 phanes; if i were in a survival situation and he was the only accessible meat i would seriously consider eating him though
23:08 schestowitz[TR2]; and a deer is?
23:08 phanes; well sure
23:08 schestowitz[TR2]; oh dear
23:09 phanes; anything that's meat is food technically, but some meat is more preferred than others
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23:10 phanes; i'd consider eating you in a donner party scenario too
23:10 phanes; im just saying, if it's eat or die, im gonna eat something i dont want to eat
23:10 schestowitz[TR2]; like argentine rugby players
23:10 phanes; especially argentine rugby players
23:11 phanes; high protein content
23:11 TR News; "Medusa is released as an open-source under the MIT License." https://medevel.com/medusa/
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23:15 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR2]> and a deer is?
23:15 DaemonFC; I've eaten deer.
23:15 DaemonFC; My uncle in Georgia doesn't really have much money and never has. He got his house down there before hipsters moved to the area and drove up the property values.
23:16 phanes; i think probably the only meat i would not eat is insect
23:16 DaemonFC; He hunts for food.
23:16 DaemonFC; I thought it was funny how many renovations he did on his house.
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23:16 DaemonFC; It caught the attention of the county and they wanted to come in and inspect and he told them if they didn't have a warrant to get off his property.
23:17 DaemonFC; They never brought it up again. A suspicion that someone has done stuff to their house without declaring it (permitting, taxes, etc) is not sufficient to get a warrant, which is why they were out there asking to come in.
23:17 DaemonFC; I suppose that's what schestowitz[TR2] was talking about with TV License.
23:17 phanes; the law will never ask for something they don't need to. if they're asking the answer's no.
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23:18 DaemonFC; BINGO!
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23:18 DaemonFC; If the police are ASKING to come in, it means they don't have a warrant.
23:18 DaemonFC; If they had a warrant, they'd just kick the door down to begin with.
23:18 DaemonFC; There's damage to the door frame on my apartment.
23:18 phanes; same thing when they pull you over in a terry stop and ask you where you're headed. "i dont answer questions"
23:18 DaemonFC; Guessing the police had a warrant on someone and weren't asking.
23:19 DaemonFC; They don't pay for the damages. You have to sue them about it later if they kicked the door down and didn't actually find anything illegal that they had described in their search warrant application.
23:20 DaemonFC; Yeah. They don't need to know where you're going.
23:20 DaemonFC; They're only asking it because they want to know everything in case it becomes interesting (incriminating) at some point along the way.
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23:21 phanes; im just not big on most cops
23:21 DaemonFC; phanes, The police pulled over my first ex's cousin for just driving around without a destination.
23:21 phanes; they need to screen like 9 out of 10 out
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23:21 DaemonFC; It turned out that "indirect route" is something they can charge you with as an infraction in Indiana.
23:21 phanes; one of the most dangerous things in the world is a coward with a gun
23:22 DaemonFC; So admitting you're out driving around for no reason is admitting that you're committing an infraction, which they can then fine you for.
23:22 phanes; and when they're running around killing people out of fear for their life, even in dangerous situations, they're cowards
23:22 TR News; Better dual-boot or something to properly use the Pi from the desktop, Windows isn't safe with SSH, there are back doors in Windows https://www.maketecheasier.com/control-raspberry-pi-windows-ssh/
23:22 TR Bot; How to Control your Raspberry Pi through Windows via SSH - Make Tech Easier
23:22 phanes; we can't give them credit for valor unless they actually exhibit that valor
23:24 DaemonFC; When you're dealing with a cop sticking his head in your car and asking you questions, you have no way of knowing where this is heading.
23:24 phanes; shooting someone "because you thought they had a gun" is an act of cowardice
23:24 DaemonFC; He's not asking them because he just wants to waste his time and chit chat.
23:24 DaemonFC; Therefore, he's asking them because he wants to do something with the information, and whatever he does with it is unlikely to be good for you.
23:25 phanes; we have sent millions of armed service members into battle with clear rules of engagement that they were able to respect even while /live mortar was being dropped on them/ and if those guys can do it so can the police
23:25 DaemonFC; So, you should just hand him your license, registration, and insurance, and then tell him you're sorry but you can't answer any questions at this time.
23:25 phanes; and if they can't do that
23:25 phanes; then maybe they're too much of a coward to be issued a firearm by the pd
23:25 DaemonFC; Be polite, but don't answer any questions. License, registration, insurance. Sorry, but I can't answer any questions at this time.
23:25 phanes; nothing more dangerous than a coward with a gun
23:26 DaemonFC; Nothing you say convinces the cop whether or not to issue a citation.
23:26 DaemonFC; He made up his mind when he started following you.
23:26 DaemonFC; You're either getting one or you're not. Unless you piss him off, but saying "I'm sorry but I cannot answer any questions at this time." is not a personal insult or anything.
23:28 DaemonFC; If a cop is being completely honest, they'll admit that nobody has ever talked their way out of an arrest or a citation.
23:28 DaemonFC; They have talked their way into one or into a jail cell.
23:28 DaemonFC; There are factors inside and outside your control. If they are going to cite/arrest, they'll do that. Arming them with more information to hand to the prosecutor makes it worse.
23:29 DaemonFC; The longer you talk, the more likely it is you'll tell them something they don't know. Or confirm something they suspected, and can now prove.
23:30 DaemonFC; There is now zero chance you'll ever get it dismissed in court.
23:30 DaemonFC; That's why they ask if you know why they pulled you over.
23:30 DaemonFC; "I was speeding."
23:30 DaemonFC; Cop: "He said he was speeding. He admitted it. What are we even doing here?"
23:30 DaemonFC; Judge: "GUILTY!"
23:32 DaemonFC; Most people can't keep their mouth shut.
23:32 DaemonFC; The cops know that.
23:32 DaemonFC; They use it.
23:32 DaemonFC; The guilty try to explain their way out of it and can't keep their story straight, or they feel bad about something and they just flat out admit it.
23:33 DaemonFC; The people who are not guilty talk, and they get steered into making incriminating statements by a cop who wants to go home and eat dinner.
23:33 DaemonFC; Only a few people don't say anything at all.
23:34 DaemonFC; In the US system, the cop can't get on the stand and try to imply that not talking to them means you're hiding something. The judge won't allow it.
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23:35 TR News; Content Management Systems (CMS): Kiwi TCMS 11.4 and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/168012 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Content_Management_Systems_CMS_Kiwi_TCMS_11_4_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/04/Content_Management_Systems_CMS_Kiwi_TCMS_11_4_and_More.gmi
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23:35 DaemonFC; The UK system police warning says that if you don't speak to the police and your defense later hinges on something you could have said, you may not be able to use that defense.
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23:35 DaemonFC; It's nasty.
23:35 DaemonFC; In the US system, you can keep quiet and put forth any defense you want to later.
23:35 DaemonFC; You have nothing to gain trying to beg a cop who just arrested you for something, or who may arrest you.
23:36 DaemonFC; They already decided. They're not going to change their mind and get back into the computer and cancel the arrest and go "He said he didn't do it!".
23:36 schestowitz[TR2]; juust keep away
23:36 schestowitz[TR2]; out of their sight
23:37 schestowitz[TR2]; nothing to be ghained when
23:37 schestowitz[TR2]; the cops see anyone has a potential criminal
23:37 schestowitz[TR2]; or potential witness
23:37 schestowitz[TR2]; if you become a witness
23:37 schestowitz[TR2]; then the criminals might want to "get even"
23:38 schestowitz[TR2]; the cops' job is to solve crimes
23:38 schestowitz[TR2]; not yours
23:38 schestowitz[TR2]; don't become their volunteers/slave
23:38 DaemonFC; Yeah, it's better to say you didn't hear or see anything and you wish you could be more of a help. It's sad though.
23:38 DaemonFC; In the big picture, everyone loses.
23:39 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
23:39 schestowitz[TR2]; esp. if they don't protect sources
23:39 DaemonFC; That's the fastest way to get rid of the cop. "I didn't see or hear anything. I wish I could be more of a help.".
23:39 schestowitz[TR2]; nobody will trust them
23:39 schestowitz[TR2]; or speak to them
23:40 DaemonFC; Because if they arrest that guy that was out there dragging his girlfriend through the hall by her hair, and then the judge lets him out with no bail....it's Illinois.....
23:40 DaemonFC; He can pick up his gun that he doesn't have a FOID card for, and shoot you with it.
23:40 DaemonFC; He may be arrested again, but you're dead.
23:41 DaemonFC; These people don't put a lot of thought into what they're doing. They're criminals.
23:41 DaemonFC; They fuck and they make more criminals and they're in and out of prison.
23:41 DaemonFC; It's what they do.
23:42 DaemonFC; The reason that they get caught all the time is because they're too stupid to evaluate whether the payoff is large enough and likely enough to not be punished to be worth the risk.
23:42 DaemonFC; And because they don't plan 5 minutes after the crime.
23:43 DaemonFC; When the cops tell them to get on the ground, they point a gun at them or run and then the whole neighborhood is on fire because of what ANYONE could tell you was going to happen next.
23:44 DaemonFC; https://www.findlaw.com/traffic/traffic-tickets/distracted-driving.html
23:44 TR Bot; Driving - FindLaw
23:44 MinceR; https://apina.biz/187049.png?mode=sfw
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23:44 DaemonFC; If you tell the cop "I was adjusting my radio and didn't see the other car." then you've admitted to a crime.
23:44 DaemonFC; Adjusting the radio is "being distracted by an electronic device".
23:45 DaemonFC; They can't prove you were adjusting the radio at the time of the accident.
23:45 DaemonFC; Unless you tell them that's what you were doing.
23:46 DaemonFC; When I was a young driver, something came on the radio I didn't like, and I looked over to adjust the knob and crashed into the back of a semi truck.
23:46 DaemonFC; The trucking company filed bankruptcy the next day and so there wasn't a trucking company anymore to complain that I hit their truck.
23:47 DaemonFC; And the driver never complained or filed a claim because he got shit canned and it was a truck belonging to a liquidated company that was in bankruptcy court anyway.
23:47 MinceR; you crashed them right into bankruptcy?
23:47 DaemonFC; I just happened to crash into their company truck the day before they filed for bankruptcy.
23:48 DaemonFC; So the police went to investigate the accident and there was suddenly nobody complaining about me.
23:48 DaemonFC; That was like 2001 I think.
23:49 DaemonFC; I was pretty pissed that I needed a new hood, but the insurance company never heard about that, and the court couldn't make the ticket stick because the cop didn't write down the driver's name and then the 800 number he gave them was dead and there was no company to tell them who was driving the truck.
23:50 DaemonFC; The ticket had the trucking company's name and 800 number on it under the victim information section.
23:51 DaemonFC; So I went to traffic court and nobody else came and I pleaded not guilty and the prosecutor dismissed the ticket.
23:51 DaemonFC; I've had warnings and dismissed tickets.
23:51 DaemonFC; But I've never had one stick.
23:52 DaemonFC; Except for a seatbelt violation, but that was $15 an in Indiana law, that's a non-moving violation.
23:52 DaemonFC; So the insurance company can't do anything with it.
23:52 DaemonFC; I had some unpaid parking tickets, but those were campus police and I wasn't a student there, so they had nothing to hold over me if I didn't pay them.
23:53 DaemonFC; They never tell you the only thing they can do if you don't pay is withhold your transcripts if you're a student there.
23:53 DaemonFC; So I dropped them a note in the mail that said "Not a student. :)"
23:54 DaemonFC; They wanted like $70 per ticket (2003) and I had three of them by that time.
23:54 DaemonFC; I got a parking ticket once.
23:54 DaemonFC; I parked in a two hour spot for 8 months before anyone noticed.
23:55 DaemonFC; I was renting an apartment that didn't have dedicated parking, and it was attached to a bank.
23:55 DaemonFC; So I just parked it in a two hour spot intended for the bank.
23:55 DaemonFC; 8 months later, the city noticed and wrote me a parking ticket for $5 because that's how things were in small towns in Indiana back then.
23:55 DaemonFC; So I paid the ticket at the town hall.
23:56 DaemonFC; For the next 4 months, I parked my car in an abandoned cafe's parking lot until I got a note asking me not to park there anymore.
23:57 DaemonFC; So at that point, I started parking my car at a city lot.
23:58 DaemonFC; They had one that was $5 a month, so I paid it, and then I scanned it into my computer and changed the expiration date and kept printing one out with a new month on it and sticking it on my dashboard.
23:58 DaemonFC; The police never figured it out.
23:59 DaemonFC; Instead of using parking garages, I usually just leave the car at a busy supermarket or Walmart store for the day.
23:59 DaemonFC; That way they think I'm just in thee shopping.
23:59 DaemonFC; *there
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