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beginning of new day, June 4

00:01 schestowitz_TR2; virtual water bill

00:01 schestowitz_TR2; virtual home insurance

00:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Yeah, CNN is saying they're going to lay off the yellow journalism and go to real news.

00:02 DaemonFC; We'll see.

00:02 DaemonFC; If they do, I may turn it on again. What they have isn't working.

00:02 schestowitz_TR2; make REALKids with VIRTUALcondom

00:03 DaemonFC; They're a branch of the Democratic Party, and stuffed with sex perverts and public masturbators.

00:03 DaemonFC; I wouldn't call someone a pervert for masturbation.

00:03 DaemonFC; Or having it accidentally witnessed when they thought they were in private.

00:03 DaemonFC; The guy got stung by not using Zoom's "privacy mode" correctly.

00:04 DaemonFC; The truth is that very nearly everyone masturbates and people still talk about it like it's something only a degenerate does.

00:05 DaemonFC; But you know, the perverts are like Chris Cuomo and that guy that was paying women to send their underage daughters to him. They had their own mini-Epstein and it barely got coverage anywhere.

00:09 DaemonFC; Anything sex-related tends to get false equivalence as far as scandal goes.

00:09 DaemonFC; Which is really really weird.

00:09 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/toast.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-toast#comic )

↺ https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/toast.png

↺ https://explosm.net/comics/rob-toast#comic

00:09 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)

00:10 schestowitz_TR2; I used to have Cyanide & Happiness in KDE

00:10 schestowitz_TR2; plasma6

00:10 schestowitz_TR2; 5

00:10 schestowitz_TR2; they have a "plasmoid" for it

00:10 schestowitz_TR2; (it's not longer called that)

00:11 schestowitz_TR2; but it seems to leak memory and has other issues

00:11 schestowitz_TR2; so I removed it months ago

00:11 DaemonFC; Yeah, because it's KDE.

00:11 schestowitz_TR2; well,, third party

00:12 schestowitz_TR2; a lot of non-core things are not working as expected

00:12 schestowitz_TR2; same with windows btw

00:14 TR News; Links 04/06/2022: Notkia and Severe Flaws in Dominion Voting Systems | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/03/notkia/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/03/notkia/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/03/notkia/

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00:14 TR Bot; Links 04/06/2022: Notkia and Severe Flaws in Dominion Voting Systems | Techrights

00:16 TR News; "You see, one of the fundamental issues with a standard UNIX-like command line interface is that the inputs and outputs don't have types associated with them." gemini://park-city.club/~invis/phlog/030-guis-are-better.txt

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00:17 TR News; "But fine, GUIs and TUIs are the big monolithic things. CLI programs are the small or at least constrained things that you chain together. They're the best tool for that job. ...right?" gemini://park-city.club/~invis/phlog/030-guis-are-better.txt

↺ gemini://park-city.club/~invis/phlog/030-guis-are-better.txt

00:17 TR News; "A man with one calorie tracker knows how much energy hes burned; a man with two is never sure" gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/

↺ gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/

00:19 TR News; "I cant believe this is not intentionally malicious design, a consumer cycle meant to burn through electronics material as quickly as possible. Some farmers daughter from Henan got paid tuppence to solder a 1 cent switch when she could have been paid 10 cents" gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~shufei/phlog/Shufei-ThisAndThat-Weiphlog.gmi

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00:20 TR News; "This book has been with me since 1985. It is worn, it fell apart. But this is one of the most important books I ever read." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220601-books-pirsig.gmi

↺ gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220601-books-pirsig.gmi

00:21 TR News; Memory gemini://rooster.smol.pub/memory "We're going to have a get-together tomorrow to celebrate Brandon's life. So for the a while I have been helping to gather pictures and songs for the party."

↺ gemini://rooster.smol.pub/memory

00:22 TR News; "I started getting over-invested in the Democratic primary, which led to me using web-based normie social media like Twitter and Reddit to keep up with the news and memes." gemini://carcosa.net/send-the-nukes/

↺ gemini://carcosa.net/send-the-nukes/

00:24 TR News; "Gemini, like gopher before it, allows the client to determine how a site is shown to the user, rather than dictating a particular appearance. The server supplies only the content. This has huge accessibility benefits." gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/gemini-capsule.gmi

↺ gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/gemini-capsule.gmi

00:27 TR News; Arduino Projects: GetFit and RuneScape Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165612

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165612

00:27 TR Bot; Arduino Projects: GetFit and RuneScape | Tux Machines

00:27 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165613

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165613

00:27 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

00:33 DaemonFC; Windows is always worse.

00:33 DaemonFC; Even core things fail to work as expected, and when they fix that, they break something else in the same update.

00:33 DaemonFC; If people won't tolerate this from a mechanic, dentist, lawyer, etc., why computer software?

00:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, You still buy into all of this COVID stuff.

00:43 DaemonFC; It was pretty overblown, I think, to get people used to staying in their homes over the UN's climate change agenda.

00:43 DaemonFC; While they prepared the high gas prices for after the lockdowns were lifted.

00:43 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/WarMonitor3/status/1532837002504245250

↺ https://nitter.net/WarMonitor3/status/1532837002504245250

00:43 TR Bot; WarMonitor (@WarMonitor3): "Maps: Severodonetsk Frontline Update- Ukrainian forces have counterattacked and recaptured at least 20 percent of lost territory, the town of Met'olkine was liberated(East Of Sevrodonetsk). Heavy battles continue in the centre reportedly near the "Jazz Mall"." | nitter

00:44 DaemonFC; I can't remember which movie it was where the woman said "Good. I hope they kill every last fucking one of them.".

00:44 DaemonFC; Sort of my opinion on Russians right now.

00:44 XRevan86; I'll keep that in mind.

00:45 DaemonFC; Oh, present company excluded of course.

00:45 DaemonFC; I mainly mean the ones participating in this.

00:46 DaemonFC; They were speculating about if the FSB would knife Putin in the back and call it off.

00:46 DaemonFC; No such luck.

00:49 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1532776998501744641

↺ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1532776998501744641

00:49 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russian lawmaker on state TV claims that the people he meets are neatly divided in two categories: those that want war and those that want bigger war: "Let's move on Berlin, London and Washington!" He also has some expletive-ridden comments about our deliveries of weapons. Watch:" | nitter

00:49 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1532789353063366668

↺ https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1532789353063366668

00:49 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Even on Kremlin-controlled state TV one pundit has had enough of nuclear threats: "Be calm, comrades. Next comes WWIII. The nuclear war is coming... Is that a normal approach? Is that the way to work with public opinion? People are getting worried!" Watch:" | nitter

00:49 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/04/putin-s-original-plan-has-completely-failed "Military expert Mykhailo Samus reflects on 100 days of Russias war in Ukraine"

↺ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/04/putin-s-original-plan-has-completely-failed

00:49 TR Bot; NO TITLE

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00:54 DaemonFC; First stage: Take over entire country and hang Zelensky.

00:54 DaemonFC; 3 days.

00:54 DaemonFC; 100 days later.....

00:54 XRevan86; Washington DC

00:54 DaemonFC; Second stage: "Try to occupy 15% of Ukraine and actually hold onto it while losing tons of men and equipment every day."

00:55 DaemonFC; Your country will forget the entire attempt at occupying Afghanistan once Putin is done.

00:55 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Dangerously close to Washington DC, isn't it?

00:55 DaemonFC; He got more Russians killed in the first month alone than during the entire occupation of Afghanistan.

00:56 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> DaemonFC: Dangerously close to Washington DC, isn't it?

00:56 DaemonFC; Well, we've had some military blunders, but this isn't one of them.

00:56 DaemonFC; This is the best money we've ever spent.

00:56 XRevan86; That was a geographical joke.

00:56 DaemonFC; It's relatively cheap and we get to watch the Russian Army dying in a country they thought they'd annex in 3 or 4 days.

00:57 DaemonFC; The big scary red menace gets obliterated and it didn't even take the best stuff we have.

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1 AM, June 4

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01:56 DaemonFC; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253387704

↺ https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253387704

01:56 TR Bot; PMEDIA showing on iPhone music album list - Apple Community

01:56 DaemonFC; PMEDIA is a warez group.

01:56 DaemonFC; They put their name in the tags.

01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 403.71


2 AM, June 4

02:07 MinceR; 04 015528 < DaemonFC> Your country will forget the entire attempt at occupying Afghanistan once Putin is done.

02:07 MinceR; it's possible that his country won't exist once putin is done

02:16 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/31/man-charged-with-driving-almost-3-times-over-legal-drinking-limit-with-unrestrained-2-year-old-child-in-car/

↺ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/31/man-charged-with-driving-almost-3-times-over-legal-drinking-limit-with-unrestrained-2-year-old-child-in-car/

02:16 TR Bot; Man charged with driving almost 3 times over legal drinking limit with unrestrained 2-year-old child in car

02:16 DaemonFC; "Marcos, who could barely stand on his own, had a blood alcohol content of .201, Banks said. The legal drinking limit for drivers in Illinois is 0.08.

02:16 DaemonFC; Marcos only had a Mexican consulate card on him but no drivers license and no valid car insurance, Banks said."

02:20 MinceR; so?

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02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-030622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-030622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-030622.txt

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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 03, 2022

02:42 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-030622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-030622.txt

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02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 03, 2022

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02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 03, 2022

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02:44 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 03, 2022

02:55 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-03.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-03.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)

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03:05 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 25283 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40936 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 weeks 0 days ago

03:06 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 303 MB TotalOut: 51 MB

03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.

03:09 IPFS; QmaLZmWcBgHpKwLqX93H4xA2SGxbuxuxyoQoAMkAUZKvtx

03:09 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.

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4 AM, June 4

04:06 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, June 03, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext

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04:06 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing

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04:07 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives

04:07 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index

04:13 TR News; "There were also forums, mailing lists and USENET news groups where one could express themselves. Over the years I stopped using most of these things, largely because I entered a form of recovery from the systems administration trade and went into a somewhat more well thanked field... sales." gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/26.gmi

↺ gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/26.gmi

04:14 TR News; "The reality is that in one form or another the early days of the World Wide Web encouraged a lot of experimentation that seems largely to be discouraged now." gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/18.gmi

↺ gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/18.gmi

04:27 TR News; Announcing coreboot 4.17 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165614

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165614

04:27 TR Bot; Announcing coreboot 4.17 | Tux Machines

04:27 TR News; "Multiple vendors including AWS, Google, Kubecost, and SUSE are supporting the open source OpenCost project for Kubernetes cost monitoring." https://www.itprotoday.com/cloudops/opencost-open-source-kubernetes-cost-monitoring-project-takes-shape

↺ https://www.itprotoday.com/cloudops/opencost-open-source-kubernetes-cost-monitoring-project-takes-shape

04:27 TR Bot; OpenCost Kubernetes Cost Monitoring and Optimization Project Launches | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More

04:29 TR News; Offbeat Television Broadcasting Standards: From Jamaica to North Korea https://tedium.co/2022/06/03/television-broadcasting-standard-oddities/ Source: tedium

↺ https://tedium.co/2022/06/03/television-broadcasting-standard-oddities/

04:29 TR Bot; Offbeat Television Broadcasting Standards: From Jamaica to North Korea

04:30 TR News; Gammath SPOT 3.7 (beta) released on 3 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT

↺ https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT

04:30 TR Bot; Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory

04:31 TR News; Pull initial Loongarch architecture code from Arnd Bergmann https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=c6f2f3e2c80e975804360665d973211e4d9390cb

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04:31 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree

04:32 TR News; Robolinux 12.06 is out http://www.robolinux.org/

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04:32 TR Bot; to Robolinux.org

04:38 TR News; Optimizing Linux Pipes | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/optimizing-linux-pipes/ Source: hackaday

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04:38 TR Bot; Linux Pipes | Hackaday

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04:43 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165615

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04:43 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

04:47 TR News; Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC - A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165616

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04:47 TR Bot; Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC - A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 | Tux Machines

04:47 TR News; It's NOT community effort, it is MICROSOFT. LF is polluting the media with Microsoft SPAM. https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/open-source/open-compute-project-data-center-design-community-effort

↺ https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/open-source/open-compute-project-data-center-design-community-effort

04:48 TR Bot; Open Compute Project: Data Center Design by Community Effort | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry

04:48 TR News; LF possibly spends more money boosting Microsoft than supporting the Linux kernel. Remove the L from LF. It's a parasite.

04:50 TR News; 2022 Democracy Perception Index: How to read the survey of 52 - or 53 - countries https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/features/democracy-perception-8639991.html

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04:50 TR Bot; 2022 Democracy Perception Index: How to read the survey of 52 - or 53 - countries

04:51 TR News; Improperly developed. So despite a GPL licence it only works in Windows (or WINE). https://www.neowin.net/news/notepad-842/

↺ https://www.neowin.net/news/notepad-842/

04:51 TR Bot; Notepad++ 8.4.2 - Neowin

04:54 TR News; False dichotomy https://analyticsindiamag.com/can-sagemaker-studio-lab-compete-with-google-colab/

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04:54 TR Bot; Can Sagemaker Studio Lab compete with Google Colab

04:54 TR News; Those are offensive. They are the source of attacks, not targets of attacks. https://www.afcea.org/content/air-force-squadron-shares-cyber-training-lessons-learned

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04:54 TR Bot; Air Force Squadron Shares Cyber Training Lessons Learned | SIGNAL Magazine

04:55 TR News; "Fixed Windows XP GUI issues"... in 2022!!! https://www.neowin.net/news/anydesk-709/

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5 AM, June 4

05:02 TR News; Should software paid for by taxpayers be Free software? https://techhq.com/2022/05/should-software-paid-for-by-taxpayers-be-open-source/

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05:02 TR Bot; Should software paid for by taxpayers be open-source?

05:04 TR News; SPAM: "Special Content ... This article was written in cooperation with Srikar Srinivasula" Webspam in "news" sites https://www.jpost.com/special-content/best-shopify-development-companies-708036

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05:04 DaemonFC; https://www.lifewire.com/bose-wave-soundtouch-iv-review-4693466

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05:04 TR Bot; Bose Wave SoundTouch IV Review: Good Audio, Poor Design

05:04 DaemonFC; " Even with a high-speed business-class internet connection, this update took almost an hour to complete. When the update finished, we opened the SoundTouch app again and it connected to the speaker without any issues. But thenanother update. Yes, linking the mobile software to the speaker system initiated another hour-long update.

05:04 DaemonFC; Finally, after two hours of waiting, we got some music streaming over Wi-Fi. It sounded greatand then the Wi-Fi disconnection problems started. We tried moving the system closer to our router, restarting our devices, uninstalling and installing the app again, restarting the SoundTouch pedestal, and even doing a factory reset. The Wi-Fi continued to randomly disconnect."

05:04 DaemonFC; LOL

05:04 TR News; European boats accused of illegally catching tuna - Oceanographic - Oceanographic https://www.oceanographicmagazine.com/news/indian-ocean-european-boats-accused-of-illegally-catching-tuna/ Source: oceanographicmagazine

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05:04 TR Bot; European boats accused of illegally catching tuna - Oceanographic - Oceanographic

05:05 DaemonFC; <MinceR> so?

05:05 DaemonFC; Drunk, 2 year old in the car with no car seat, and illegal immigrant with no driver's license or insurance.

05:06 TR News; In the race against time to cut emissions, companies supply chains are key | Reuters https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/race-against-time-cut-emissions-companies-supply-chains-are-key-2022-05-30/ Source: reuters

↺ https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/race-against-time-cut-emissions-companies-supply-chains-are-key-2022-05-30/

05:06 TR Bot; the race against time to cut emissions, companies supply chains are key | Reuters

05:06 DaemonFC; Of course it's Illinois, so they'll let him go and then pick me up for 1 mph over the limit.

05:07 TR News; Linux Foundation is a front group for proprietary software companies; seems inadequate for it to speak on such issues, in effect promoting anti-Free software https://www.csoonline.com/article/3661631/the-open-source-software-security-mobilization-plan-takeaways-for-security-leaders.html

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05:07 TR Bot; The Open Source Software Security Mobilization Plan: Takeaways for security leaders | CSO Online

05:08 DaemonFC; I had Mandy in stitches the other day when he reminded me of those two guys that ran into my car.

05:08 DaemonFC; I said, "Oh yeah, and then those stupid Mexican cops that showed up and blamed the whole thing on me."

05:08 TR News; Linux Foundation does NOT speak for people who like and use Linux. In many cases it speaks AGAINST them. http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/

05:08 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Board in 2022: 86% Corporate and 81% Proprietary Software Companies | Techrights

05:10 TR News; Intel has fallen so far behind that nowadays in disclosures you can see that Intel bribes publications to run puff pieces for it. Sometimes press releases too: http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/

05:10 TR News; Intel has fallen so far behind that nowadays in disclosures you can see that Intel bribes publications to run puff pieces for it. Sometimes press releases too: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220531005771/en/Intel-Editorial-Accelerated-Innovations-for-Sustainable-Open-HPC

↺ https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220531005771/en/Intel-Editorial-Accelerated-Innovations-for-Sustainable-Open-HPC

05:11 TR Bot; Intel Editorial: Accelerated Innovations for Sustainable, Open HPC | Business Wire

05:11 TR News; "National Gun Violence Awareness Day" https://bsd405.org/2022/06/a-message-from-the-superintendent-national-gun-violence-awareness-day/

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05:12 TR Bot; A Message from the Superintendent: National Gun Violence Awareness Day Bellevue School District

05:13 TR News; Did copyleft.conf die because of the pandemic or because SFC recognised that bagging bribes from Microsoft was bad for its reputation?

05:16 TR News; Slaveowners as bosses https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/01/opinion/elon-musk-tesla-twitter.html

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05:16 TR Bot; Opinion | Elon Musks Tesla Management Is a Bad Sign for Twitter - The New York Times

05:20 TR News; "Digital Marketing" and "Enhance Business Through Social Media" is NOT tech savvy, it is SPAM. https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/pune-news/pmcs-1st-digital-lighthouse-guides-turbulent-youth-to-become-tech-savvy-101654023490910.html

↺ https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/pune-news/pmcs-1st-digital-lighthouse-guides-turbulent-youth-to-become-tech-savvy-101654023490910.html

05:20 TR Bot; PMCs 1st digital lighthouse guides turbulent youth to become tech savvy - Hindustan Times

05:21 TR News; Calling every bit of automation "hey hi!" https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/ethical-issues-surrounding-research-ai-health-care-2022-05-31/

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05:21 TR Bot; issues surrounding research of AI in health care | Reuters

05:22 TR News; "Woke" is an insult these days https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/29/conservatives-seek-to-hold-woke-companies-accounta/

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05:22 TR Bot; Conservatives seek to hold woke companies accountable with free-speech, religion rankings - Washington Times

05:22 TR News; ARM vs. RISC-V: Is one better than the other? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165617

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05:22 TR Bot; ARM vs. RISC-V: Is one better than the other? | Tux Machines

05:28 TR News; The Impact of Funding on Longevity Research | Technology Networks https://www.technologynetworks.com/cell-science/blog/the-impact-of-funding-on-longevity-research-362035 Source: technologynetworks

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05:28 TR Bot; The Impact of Funding on Longevity Research | Technology Networks

05:29 TR News; Microsoft is CRIME, but the criminals now hide behind "DEI" and "Microsoft Philanthropies"... yes, the irony of organised crime painting ITSELF as "Philanthropies" https://www.hrdive.com/news/microsoft-techspark-jackson-mississippi/624684/

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05:29 TR Bot; Combining DEI with learning, Microsoft opens TechSpark hub in Mississippi | HR Dive

05:30 TR News; Perpetuating a victim-blaming myth: "The Great Resignation is taking a heavy toll on employers"... no, companies lay off a lot of people. Stop blaming those who lose their job. https://www.americanbanker.com/list/best-places-to-work-in-fintech-2022

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05:30 TR Bot; Best Places to Work in Fintech 2022 | American Banker

05:32 TR News; Indian Students Educational Aid Foundation https://itsgoa.com/indian-students-educational-aid-foundation-empowering-the-underprivileged-in-goa-to-realise-their-dreams/

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05:32 TR Bot; Indian Students Educational Aid Foundation: Empowering the underprivileged in Goa to realise their dreams

05:33 TR News; Brown Corporation... watch what universities have turned into https://www.brown.edu/news/2022-06-01/corporation

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05:33 TR Bot; Brown Corporation elects two new fellows, eight trustees | Brown University

05:34 TR News; "Having passed the legislature, it is awaiting signature by Governor Kathy Hochul, who is expected to support the measure." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/3/23153504/right-to-repair-new-york-state-law-ifixit-repairability-diy | Source: The Verge

↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/3/23153504/right-to-repair-new-york-state-law-ifixit-repairability-diy

05:34 TR Bot; New York state passes first-ever right to repair law for electronics - The Verge

05:35 TR News; "All cars have been removed from Alstatt's lawns, but he still has a hefty fee to pay to the city." https://www.thedrive.com/news/california-man-fined-573k-for-fixing-broken-cars-in-his-yard | Source: The Drive

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05:35 TR Bot; California Man Fined $573K for Fixing Broken Cars in His Yard

05:35 TR News; "Altstatt in 2014 parked an old van in his fenced backyard, where he worked on it on the grass a code violation." https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article261835755.html | Source: California

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05:35 TR News; "In 2020, many of those 65+ were averaging $187 in online shopping per month." https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/debra-berlyn-online-shopping-is-here-to-stay-for-older-adults/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast

↺ https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/debra-berlyn-online-shopping-is-here-to-stay-for-older-adults/

05:36 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3509741-ransomware-groups-rebrand-to-dodge-sanctions/ | Source: The Hill

↺ https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3509741-ransomware-groups-rebrand-to-dodge-sanctions/

05:36 TR News; Should software paid for by taxpayers be open-source? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165618

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05:37 TR News; "They later walked back the statement and said the teacher had propped the door open with a rock, but then removed it and closed the door when she realized there was a shooter on campus" https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3510803-uvalde-teacher-says-incorrect-accusation-she-left-door-open-left-her-heartbroken/ | Source: The Hill

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05:39 TR News; "The measure establishes a two-year moratorium on new permits for cryptocurrency mining operations that use proof-of-work " https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/government-policy/new-york-passes-bill-to-halt-bitcoin-mining-for-two-years/91983403 | Source: India Times

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05:39 TR News; "If Hochul signs the bill, it would make New York the first state in the country to ban blockchain technology infrastructure" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/crypto/new-york-bitcoin-mining-bill-rcna31819 | Source: NBC

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05:39 TR News; "Promising new jobs, the [cryptocurrency] industry had split Senate Democrats on whether the moratorium would come with greater environmental or economic costs" https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/3/23151622/new-york-bitcoin-mining-moratorium-bill-state-senate | Source: The Verge

↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/3/23151622/new-york-bitcoin-mining-moratorium-bill-state-senate

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05:42 TR News; Monopolies, not "intellectual property (IP)" [sic] rights [sic] https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/3511090-the-us-cannot-afford-to-give-intellectual-property-rights-to-china/ | Source: The Hill

↺ https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/3511090-the-us-cannot-afford-to-give-intellectual-property-rights-to-china/

05:42 TR Bot; The US cannot afford to give intellectual property rights to China | The Hill

05:43 TR News; "Authorities in Russia have confirmed a that a new crackdown to prevent citizens from accessing VPN services is underway." https://torrentfreak.com/new-vpn-crackdown-underway-in-russia-government-confirms-220603/ | Source: Torrent Freak

↺ https://torrentfreak.com/new-vpn-crackdown-underway-in-russia-government-confirms-220603/

05:43 TR Bot; VPN Crackdown Underway in Russia, Government Confirms * TorrentFreak

05:44 TR News; Code Execution 0-day in Windows Has Been Under Active Exploit for 7 Weeks - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/02/1233207 Source: soylentnews

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05:44 TR Bot; Code Execution 0-day in Windows Has Been Under Active Exploit for 7 Weeks - SoylentNews

05:44 TR News; California man fined $573,000 for fixing cars on his own property https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/california-man-fined-573,000-for-fixing:2 Source: rossmanngroup

↺ https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/california-man-fined-573,000-for-fixing:2

05:44 TR Bot; California man fined $573,000 for fixing cars on his own property

05:45 TR News; Right to Repair bill PASSES - 7 years of work FINALLY GOT SOMEWHERE! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/right-to-repair-bill-passes-7-years-of:9 Source: rossmanngroup

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05:45 TR Bot; Right to Repair bill PASSES - 7 years of work FINALLY GOT SOMEWHERE!

05:46 TR News; "Have some games on Steam Deck that won't get the right resolution? Now you can force them into what you want." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/steam-deck-now-lets-you-override-display-resolution-for-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/steam-deck-now-lets-you-override-display-resolution-for-games/

05:46 TR Bot; Deck now lets you override display resolution for games | GamingOnLinux

05:46 TR News; "Valve and their partner CodeWeavers are working towards the next major upgrade of Proton, the compatibility layer for running Windows games on Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/proton-70-3-in-testing-will-bring-more-game-compatibility-to-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/proton-70-3-in-testing-will-bring-more-game-compatibility-to-linux-and-steam-deck/

05:46 TR Bot; 7.0-3 in testing, will bring more game compatibility to Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux

05:48 TR News; How To Enable SSH On FreeBSD https://ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-ssh-on-freebsd/

↺ https://ostechnix.com/how-to-enable-ssh-on-freebsd/

05:48 TR Bot; To Enable SSH On FreeBSD - OSTechNix

05:48 TR News; "Want to support queer creators? Now is a good chance for you, while also grabbing a whole chunk of games too in the Queer Games Bundle 2022." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/theres-another-big-queer-games-bundle-live-on-itchio-for-2022/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/theres-another-big-queer-games-bundle-live-on-itchio-for-2022/

05:48 TR Bot; another big Queer Games Bundle live on itch.io for 2022 | GamingOnLinux

05:48 TR News; "Love retro shooters? How about those with a little magical flair to them and dark fantasy?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/hands-of-necromancy-is-an-upcoming-gzdoom-powered-dark-fantasy-shooter/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/hands-of-necromancy-is-an-upcoming-gzdoom-powered-dark-fantasy-shooter/

05:48 TR Bot; of Necromancy is an upcoming GZDoom powered dark fantasy shooter | GamingOnLinux

05:48 TR News; "Another great looking point and click adventure is on the way from Wadjet Eye Games! They just recently teased their latest called Old Skies." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/old-skies-is-an-upcoming-time-travel-adventure-from-wadjet-eye-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/old-skies-is-an-upcoming-time-travel-adventure-from-wadjet-eye-games/

05:48 TR Bot; Skies is an upcoming time travel adventure from Wadjet Eye Games | GamingOnLinux

05:49 TR News; "The wonderful Oxygen Not Included from Klei Entertainment has seen a big free update released" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/oxygen-not-included-sees-the-fast-friends-update-out-now-steam-deck-verified/ | Source: GamingOnLinux

↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/oxygen-not-included-sees-the-fast-friends-update-out-now-steam-deck-verified/

05:49 TR Bot; Not Included sees the 'Fast Friends' update out & now Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux

05:56 TR News; Links 04/06/2022: Coreboot 4.17 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/03/coreboot-4-17/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/03/coreboot-4-17/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/03/coreboot-4-17/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/03/coreboot-4-17/

05:56 TR Bot; Links 04/06/2022: Coreboot 4.17 | Techrights

05:58 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Proton, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165619

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165619

05:58 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Proton, and More | Tux Machines

05:58 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165620

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165620

05:58 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

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06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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7 AM, June 4

07:51 TR News; "Free Speech" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/free-speech-harassment-censorship/ | Source: The Nation

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07:51 TR Bot; The Silenced Students in the Free Speech Debate | The Nation

07:52 TR News; "To say that it's high time for real progress on a federal privacy bill would be a tremendous understatement." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/advocates-offer-cautious-praise-new-digital-privacy-bill-congress | Source: Common Dreams

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07:52 TR Bot; Advocates Offer Cautious Praise of New Digital Privacy Bill in Congress

07:53 TR News; UK privacy https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/uk-government-orders-clearview-to-pay-9-4-million-fine-delete-all-uk-residents-data/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/uk-government-orders-clearview-to-pay-9-4-million-fine-delete-all-uk-residents-data/

07:53 TR Bot; Government Orders Clearview To Pay $9.4 Million Fine, Delete All UK Residents Data | Techdirt

07:54 TR News; Military contractors taking over the Internet https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/eu-isps-join-us-isps-in-demanding-big-tech-give-them-billions-for-no-coherent-reason/ | Source: Techdirt http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/eu-isps-join-us-isps-in-demanding-big-tech-give-them-billions-for-no-coherent-reason/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

07:54 TR Bot; ISPs Join US ISPs In Demanding Big Tech Give Them Billions For No Coherent Reason | Techdirt

07:54 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

07:55 TR News; Patents https://fair.org/home/vaccine-equity-coverage-underplays-barrier-of-patents/ | Source: FAIR

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07:55 TR Bot; Vaccine Equity Coverage Underplays Barrier of Patents - FAIR

07:56 TR News; Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/06/what-counts-as-good-faith-security-research/ | Source: Krebs On Security

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07:56 TR Bot; What Counts as Good Faith Security Research? Krebs on Security

07:57 TR News; Surveillance https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/eff-inter-american-court-human-rights-colombias-surveillance-human-rights | Source: EFF

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07:57 TR Bot; EFF to Inter-American Court of Human Rights: Colombias Surveillance of Human Rights-Defending Lawyers Group Violated International Law | Electronic Frontier Foundation

07:57 TR News; Open Culture https://creativecommons.org/2022/06/03/open-culture-voices-vlog-series-wrap-up/ | Source: Creative Commons

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07:57 TR Bot; Open Culture VOICES Vlog Series: Wrap-Up - Creative Commons

07:58 TR News; Revekka Kefalea https://creativecommons.org/2022/06/03/cc-certificate-alumni-interview-with-revekka-kefalea/ | Source: Creative Commons

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07:58 TR Bot; CC Certificate: Alumni interview with Revekka Kefalea - Creative Commons

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07:59 TR News; "The press has been neither humiliated nor found out because most of the country still believes the lies they were told and have not seen corrected." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/03/craig-murray-the-power-of-lies/ | Source: Scheerpost

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07:59 TR Bot; Murray: The Power of Lies scheerpost.com

07:59 TR News; "Disinformation Governance Board" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/03/guarding-democracy-from-news/ | Source: Scheerpost

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07:59 TR Bot; Guarding Democracy From News scheerpost.com


8 AM, June 4

08:00 TR News; Monopolies https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/03/corporate-monopolies-who-stole-babies-formula | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/03/corporate-monopolies-who-stole-babies-formula

08:00 TR Bot; Opinion | The Corporate Monopolies Who Stole the Babies' Formula | Amy Goodman

08:04 TR News; "With feline obesity on the rise, keeping track of your cats weight is an important part of keeping them healthy" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/track-your-cats-weight-through-this-internet-connected-litter-box/ | Source: Hackaday

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08:04 TR Bot; Your Cats Weight Through This Internet-Connected Litter Box | Hackaday

08:04 TR News; "In CPU design, there is Ahmdals law. Simply put, it means that if some process is contributing to 10% of your execution" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/optimizing-linux-pipes/ | Source: Hackaday

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08:04 TR Bot; Linux Pipes | Hackaday

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08:32 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 03, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/irc-log-030622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/04/irc-log-030622/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/irc-log-030622/

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08:32 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 03, 2022 | Techrights

08:34 TR News; "There are many applications running, of which many are bespoke creations. Everything is tended to by either Puppet or Ansible these days because I'm growing less interested in the day to day in my advancing age. Authentication is handled by an LDAP database that is replicated to multiple sites" gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/25.gmi

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08:36 TR News; On github as a social network gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/ "Slowly I began to realize that these social networking sites were echo-chambers that really didn't mean much at all."

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08:37 TR News; "Github is the worst kind of social networking site. Like a virus, it has infected my mind and is constantly getting me to engage with it. It's a social networking site that I have to use for work." gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/

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08:39 TR News; "Github isn't just a code repository, it's a social networking site. The network effect makes it really hard to host other open source projects anywhere else." gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/

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08:40 TR News; <li><h5><a href="gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/">On github as a social network</a></h5>

↺ gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/">On

08:40 TR News; "I really like sourcehut[1] and will be moving everything there. There are no "engagement" features like stars or trending projects. Drew, more than anyone, has made me realize that you don't have to participate in social networking in order to have people use your projects." "gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/

↺ gemini://erock.io/2022/06/03/github-as-social-network/

08:42 TR News; "on one side you have the monopoly of Google and other big tech giants that seem to want to enslave humanity and take control over everything and everyone to increase their profit margins by another few Billions next month" gemini://metalune.xyz/glog/03-06-2022.gmi

↺ gemini://metalune.xyz/glog/03-06-2022.gmi

08:44 TR News; An Offline Week gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220603-an-offline-week.gmi "After a busy Friday and Saturday, our house lost electric power for a few hours on Sunday. My wife and I decided to go to a local secondhand bookstore while we waited for power to be restored."

↺ gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220603-an-offline-week.gmi

08:47 TR News; Meanwhile, Donald Biden gave FOUR TIMES that amount to bail out Microsoft https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/3/student_debt_corinthian_colleges | see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/3/student_debt_corinthian_colleges

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

08:47 TR Bot; Biden OKs $5.8B in Debt Relief for Corinthian Students; Pressure Grows to Abolish All Student Debt | Democracy Now!

08:50 TR News; Tesla is failing https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/lots-luck-his-trip-moon-biden-says-musks-job-cuts-tesla | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/lots-luck-his-trip-moon-biden-says-musks-job-cuts-tesla

08:50 TR Bot; 'Lots of Luck on His Trip to the Moon,' Biden Says of Musk's Job Cuts at Tesla

08:51 TR News; Sanders https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/sanders-says-stop-busting-people-marijuana-and-start-prosecuting-crooks-wall-street | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/sanders-says-stop-busting-people-marijuana-and-start-prosecuting-crooks-wall-street

08:51 TR Bot; Sanders Says Stop Busting People for Marijuana and Start 'Prosecuting Crooks on Wall Street'

08:53 TR News; This week in KDE: Fixing bugs, and lets fix more Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165621

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165621

08:53 TR Bot; This week in KDE: Fixing bugs, and lets fix more | Tux Machines

08:53 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165622

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165622

08:53 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

08:57 TR News; Patents: "We Are Choosing Death" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/we-are-choosing-death-byanyima-stiglitz-slam-wto-inaction-vaccine-patents | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/we-are-choosing-death-byanyima-stiglitz-slam-wto-inaction-vaccine-patents

08:57 TR Bot; 'We Are Choosing Death': Byanyima, Stiglitz Slam WTO Inaction on Vaccine Patents

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9 AM, June 4

09:03 TR News; "Heres an older but fantastic video that is as edifying as it is short." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/3d-printed-flexture-shows-precision-in-action/ | Source: Hackaday

↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/3d-printed-flexture-shows-precision-in-action/

09:03 TR Bot; Printed Flexure Shows Precision In Action | Hackaday

09:10 TR News; "Join Hackaday Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams and Staff Writer Dan Maloney for a tour of the weeks best and brightest hacks." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/hackaday-podcast-171-rent-the-apple-toolkit-diy-an-industrial-cnc-or-save-the-birds-with-3d-printing/ | Source: Hackaday

↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/hackaday-podcast-171-rent-the-apple-toolkit-diy-an-industrial-cnc-or-save-the-birds-with-3d-printing/

09:10 TR Bot; Podcast 171: Rent The Apple Toolkit, DIY An Industrial CNC, Or Save The Birds With 3D Printing | Hackaday

09:10 TR News; Censorship connected to Microsoft https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/03/u-s-state-affiliated-newsguard-targets-consortium-news/ | Source: Scheerpost

↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/03/u-s-state-affiliated-newsguard-targets-consortium-news/

09:10 TR Bot; State-Affiliated NewsGuard Targets Consortium News scheerpost.com

09:12 TR News; NASA privatised https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/nasa-turns-to-commercial-partners-for-spacesuits/ | Source: Hackaday

↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/nasa-turns-to-commercial-partners-for-spacesuits/

09:12 TR Bot; Turns To Commercial Partners For Spacesuits | Hackaday

09:14 TR News; "The Zubaydah case is procedurally unusual." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/the-supreme-court-expands-government-secrecy-powers-in-torture-related-case/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/the-supreme-court-expands-government-secrecy-powers-in-torture-related-case/

09:14 TR Bot; Supreme Court Expands Government Secrecy Powers in Torture-Related Case - CounterPunch.org

09:15 TR News; Missing disclosure: Pro Publica receives bribes from COVID profiteer and big criminal, Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/ppe-covid-scams-fraud-nitrile-gloves

↺ https://www.propublica.org/article/ppe-covid-scams-fraud-nitrile-gloves

09:15 TR Bot; They Were Ripped Off Trying to Supply PPE During COVID Pandemic ProPublica

09:19 TR News; Land of the free? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/appeals-court-says-its-perfectly-fine-for-cops-to-unreasonably-extend-traffic-stops/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/appeals-court-says-its-perfectly-fine-for-cops-to-unreasonably-extend-traffic-stops/

09:19 TR Bot; Court Says Its Perfectly Fine For Cops To Unreasonably Extend Traffic Stops | Techdirt

09:19 TR News; "many regulatory proceedings there have been in the last 6 months or so to discuss standard technical measures in the copyright context." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/yet-again-we-remind-policymakers-that-standard-technical-measures-are-no-miracle-solution-for-anything/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/yet-again-we-remind-policymakers-that-standard-technical-measures-are-no-miracle-solution-for-anything/

09:19 TR Bot; Again We Remind Policymakers That Standard Technical Measures Are No Miracle Solution For Anything | Techdirt

09:20 TR News; "Techdirt is one of the few remaining independent blogs." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/the-internet-can-still-be-small-and-nice-but-its-on-all-of-us-to-make-that-work/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/the-internet-can-still-be-small-and-nice-but-its-on-all-of-us-to-make-that-work/

09:20 TR Bot; Internet Can Still Be Small And Nice, But Its On All Of Us To Make That Work | Techdirt

09:20 TR News; "Dovetail joints on a piece of furniture are one of those features that make it say master carpenter rather than IKEA." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/3d-printed-template-makes-perfect-dovetail-joints/ | Source: Hackaday

↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/03/3d-printed-template-makes-perfect-dovetail-joints/

09:20 TR Bot; Printed Template Makes Perfect Dovetail Joints | Hackaday

09:22 TR News; "Senator Ron Wyden has never been shy about demanding both the government and the private sector stop doing so much damn spying on their constituents/users." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/federal-legislators-ask-google-to-limit-collection-of-location-data-following-leak-of-supreme-courts-abortion-ruling/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/federal-legislators-ask-google-to-limit-collection-of-location-data-following-leak-of-supreme-courts-abortion-ruling/

09:22 TR Bot; Legislators Ask Google To Limit Collection Of Location Data Following Leak Of Supreme Courts Abortion Ruling | Techdirt

09:23 TR News; "On both the state and federal level, a flood of new bills are targeting companies efforts to monopolize repair by implementing obnoxious DRM" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/california-right-to-repair-bill-gets-scuttled-by-lobbyists/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/03/california-right-to-repair-bill-gets-scuttled-by-lobbyists/

09:23 TR Bot; Right To Repair Bill Gets Scuttled By Lobbyists | Techdirt

09:24 TR News; "If you get cockroaches in your house, you poison them" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/03/if-you-get-cockroaches-in-your-house-you-should-poison-them "convicted under the new law banning fake news about the war"

↺ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/03/if-you-get-cockroaches-in-your-house-you-should-poison-them

09:24 TR Bot; NO TITLE

09:26 TR News; "I do not love change and I really dislike pointless change that only exists to justify someone's job (often the case for UI). The floating tabs really just donked my brain every time I opened the browser and felt it had to go." gemini://gemlog.blue/users/sloum/1624914178.gmi

↺ gemini://gemlog.blue/users/sloum/1624914178.gmi

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09:28 schestowitz; "

09:28 schestowitz; I wrote up a script to query the national weather service api to get a weather forecast for the next week (from whenever you query). At present it accepts US zip codes." gemini://gemlog.blue/users/sloum/1607657698.gmi there is one for the UK too

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09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-03.gmi

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi

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09:35 schestowitz_TR2; hello, techrights_guest|8

09:36 TR News; "The Carnage the Supreme Court is About to Unleash" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/seven-days-in-may-2/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/seven-days-in-may-2/

09:36 TR Bot; Days in May - CounterPunch.org

09:38 TR News; "The accessibility of the encyclopedists and the wikipedists increasingly dominates our days and nights" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/the-well-tempered-clavier-at-300/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/03/the-well-tempered-clavier-at-300/

09:38 TR Bot; Well-Tempered Clavier at 300 - CounterPunch.org

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09:41 TR News; SPAMnil shows that Gulag''s YouTube is easy to game. Clickbots.

09:42 TR News; My week in KDE: More Tasks and New App https://fhek.gitlab.io/en/my-week-in-kde-more-tasks-and-new-app/

↺ https://fhek.gitlab.io/en/my-week-in-kde-more-tasks-and-new-app/

09:42 TR Bot; My week in KDE: More Tasks and New App

09:42 TR News; "Since the last update two month ago KDE Itinerary gained support for managing discount program memberships and flat rate tickets, gives you more control over alternative connection searches and transfer connections, produces correct train station indoor maps even in complex cases and much more." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/06/04/kde-itinerary-april-may-2022.html

↺ https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/06/04/kde-itinerary-april-may-2022.html

09:42 TR Bot; April/May in KDE Itinerary

09:46 TR News; Seems like SEO spam dressed up as an article https://mightygadget.co.uk/learning-linux-6-linux-tips-that-will-make-you-feel-like-a-pro/

↺ https://mightygadget.co.uk/learning-linux-6-linux-tips-that-will-make-you-feel-like-a-pro/

09:46 TR Bot; Learning Linux: 6 Linux Tips That Will Make You Feel Like a Pro

09:55 TR News; Attract contributors to your Free software project with authenticity https://opensource.com/article/22/6/attract-contributors-open-source-project

↺ https://opensource.com/article/22/6/attract-contributors-open-source-project

09:55 TR Bot; contributors to your open source project with authenticity | Opensource.com

09:58 TR News; A comparison of state-level data policies https://internetfreedom.in/a-comparison-of-state-level-data-policies/ Source: internetfreedom

↺ https://internetfreedom.in/a-comparison-of-state-level-data-policies/

09:58 TR Bot; A comparison of state-level data policies


10 AM, June 4

10:03 TR News; "June came. I am still playing with rust these days. Learning more things every day." http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2022-Jun-4.html.en#2022-Jun-4-17:42:06

↺ http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2022-Jun-4.html.en#2022-Jun-4-17:42:06

10:03 TR Bot; June came.

10:04 TR News; The fight for Init Freedom http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/260/Devuan "Devuan, with its promise of Init Freedom, provides users an alternative to systemd as an init process."

↺ http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/260/Devuan

10:04 TR Bot; Distro Walk Devuan Linux Magazine

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10:17 TR News; The Wine development release 7.10 is now available. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165623

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165623

10:17 TR Bot; The Wine development release 7.10 is now available. | Tux Machines

10:17 TR News; New Issue of Linux Magazine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165624

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165624

10:17 TR Bot; New Issue of Linux Magazine | Tux Machines

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10:34 TR News; Links 04/06/2022: WINE 7.10 and KDE Progress | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/kde-progress/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/04/kde-progress/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/kde-progress/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/04/kde-progress/

10:34 TR Bot; Links 04/06/2022: WINE 7.10 and KDE Progress | Techrights

10:34 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165625

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165625

10:34 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

10:55 TR News; RMS talk (in French) 3 hours away http://techrights.org/2022/06/02/francophone-rms/

http://techrights.org/2022/06/02/francophone-rms/

10:55 TR Bot; Richard Stallman in France, Speech This Coming Saturday (With Live Stream) | Techrights

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11 AM, June 4

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11:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Amazon be like "Renewed" and people are taking pictures of their Ninja Foodi that had cracked plastic that they cut themselves on or major dents and dings and stuff.

11:29 schestowitz_TR2; amazon :-)

11:29 DaemonFC; I don't know what Amazon's definition of "refurbished" is, but the generally accepted one at least used to be "Should be indistinguishable from buying a new unit, but legalities prohibit them from calling it that.".

11:29 schestowitz_TR2; your mom's vice

11:29 schestowitz_TR2; I read about it today

11:29 schestowitz_TR2; I can find the link

11:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Packard Bell used to take customer returns and fix them and then sell the computer as new.

11:30 DaemonFC; They got sued for that.

11:31 DaemonFC; KMart used to sell factory refurbished appliances sometimes.

11:31 schestowitz; https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/debra-berlyn-online-shopping-is-here-to-stay-for-older-adults/

↺ https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/debra-berlyn-online-shopping-is-here-to-stay-for-older-adults/

11:31 TR Bot; Debra Berlyn: Online Shopping is Here to Stay for Older Adults : Broadband Breakfast

11:31 DaemonFC; I remember my parents buying a refurbished Hoover vacuum cleaner there that was about half the price. It worked fine for many years.

11:31 DaemonFC; So obviously they got a good deal on that.

11:32 DaemonFC; That was back when people still took their vacuum to the repair shop if it broke down, and when the thing worked so wall that you could look at the carpet and see where you'd been already.

11:32 DaemonFC; *well

11:32 DaemonFC; Today you get a vacuum cleaner and it's all shitty and made in China most of the time.

11:33 DaemonFC; If anything happens to it, you throw the whole machine in a dumpster. Mom got a $700 vacuum that broke down and then threw it out a year later when it broke down.

11:35 DaemonFC; I asked her if she spent $700 on the vacuum why she didn't take it to the vacuum repair shop and she said "The guy wanted $100 to look at it and tell me what was wrong, and that was before he fixed it and it's not a car! The guy I go to church with said the $50 vacuum I replaced it with could break down and go in the trash every year and I still wouldn't be out $700 for the vacuum!".

11:35 DaemonFC; I said, "The $100 is usually a diagnostic fee and sometimes you get it back if you have them repair it. They just don't want you wasting their time if you're not going to get it repaired there. It may have only been a broken belt, which is like $10.".

11:36 DaemonFC; Oh, $700 vacuum in the trash without even looking at it.

11:36 DaemonFC; Now she can't afford to just pick up and move out on this bastard of a landlord she has.

11:39 DaemonFC; Typical boomer. "Oh this guy wants to be paid for his work. I'll just chuck it and spend more money on another one that'll break down!".

11:40 DaemonFC; Boomers tend to be horrible with finances and in a lot of debt all the time for stupid reasons.

11:41 DaemonFC; That woman she worked with gave her 2012 Chevy Malibu as a trade-in for $2,000 on the suspicion there might be something wrong with the transmission, without even getting a quote for the work, or a diagnostic.

11:42 DaemonFC; She spent $12,000 on a 2011 Ford Mustang from the same shop, which told her it needed a "timing chain" that they put in, and the engine blew up on her on the way home.

11:42 DaemonFC; Now she has no car at all and a $12,000 Mustang that needs a $5,000 used engine.

11:50 schestowitz_TR2; PB is still around?

11:50 schestowitz_TR2; IIRC, bought

11:50 schestowitz_TR2; HP?

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11:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Nope.

11:55 DaemonFC; They were never associated with HP.

11:55 DaemonFC; They fostered the mentality that they were though by the similar naming.

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11:55 DaemonFC; My dad found a Packard Bell down at the Walmart in 1992.

11:55 DaemonFC; They were sort of a bargain basment PC company back then.

11:56 DaemonFC; They sold slow desktop PCs for running boring applications that didn't need much power.

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11:56 DaemonFC; Their very best offerings eventually had 486DX processors and Pentiums.

11:56 DaemonFC; But they mainly sold into the low end market.

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noon, June 4

12:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Yeah, I buy stuff from "Amazon Warehouse Deals" sometimes.

12:12 DaemonFC; So the box that a box fan came in got damaged.

12:12 DaemonFC; As long as the fan works, why wouldn't I want to pay 15% less for the fan?

12:14 DaemonFC; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08J9J396N

↺ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08J9J396N

12:14 TR Bot; Molekule Air Pro FDA-Cleared Medical Air Purifier with PECO Technology for Smoke, Allergens, Pollutants, Viruses, Bacteria and Mold in Professional Spaces : Home & Kitchen

12:14 DaemonFC; Claims to scrub CO2 out of the air.

12:14 DaemonFC; LOL

12:14 DaemonFC; Unless you're an astronaut, not having a CO2 scrubber is rarely an issue.

12:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Mom asked me what I use in the livingroom. I told her "a fan with a furnace filter strapped to it and sealed in with tape".

12:16 DaemonFC; She goes, "And that works?". I said, "Well, it's not quite HEPA, but it doesn't cost much. It's literally a $20 box fan and a $10 filter you have to change a few times a year.".

12:17 DaemonFC; Just get the cheapest box fan that moves air around because even on the low setting, this thing can maintain the air quality of a room. You're not buying it to move a shitload of air and keep you comfortable so it doesn't have to be a performance model fan. It just has to move plenty of air through the filter.

12:18 DaemonFC; With no air purifier in my living room I can see dirt floating around in the air. It's so bad it looks like glitter if I turn on my phone camera and make a video.

12:18 DaemonFC; But the fan+furnace filter gets rid of all of that.

12:19 DaemonFC; MinceR said fans don't work. They work, until they don't.

12:20 DaemonFC; Obviously the hotter it gets, the less they work to keep you cool, until there's no point running it and you need to turn on the air conditioning.

12:20 DaemonFC; But if it's just mildly to moderately uncomfortable, getting some air on you can relieve that.

12:22 DaemonFC; Do they save you money? Well, where I live, there's about 40 days out of the Summer where air conditioning is not really necessary, but you do want some air on you. If you have no fan and turn the air conditioner on, it'll add $2-3 per day, so if you used the fan instead, it will pay for itself in 10 days, and then you'd still have the fan next year.

12:23 DaemonFC; Fans can also help the air conditioner cool you down better, so you don't have to turn it down as much to achieve the same cooling effect.

12:23 DaemonFC; The US Department of Energy has some interesting guidance on the air conditioner.

12:23 DaemonFC; They suggest keeping it at 78 while you're awake and 82 at night.

12:23 DaemonFC; I don't know about anyone else, but if it's 82 in my bedroom I can't sleep and I'm going to be madder than hell.

12:24 DaemonFC; They also recommended a smart thermostat. The electric company pays you to buy a Nest.

12:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, ^

12:24 schestowitz_TR2; sorry, hang opn..

12:24 schestowitz_TR2; I'm GIMPing something

12:25 DaemonFC; I laughed pretty hard at that. I know when I'll be gone all day and can flip the air conditioner off.

12:25 DaemonFC; It doesn't need to have a connection to my phone for that. It has an OFF switch.

12:25 schestowitz_TR2; it's BS

12:25 schestowitz_TR2; all those spying devices

12:25 schestowitz_TR2; they use up power

12:25 schestowitz_TR2; so you pay more

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; and they tell them a lot about you

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; it tells you very little that you didn't not aalready know

12:26 DaemonFC; They already know a lot from smart meters.

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; "oh really? I didn't need this shitty gadget to tell me my PC is on"

12:26 DaemonFC; But this tells them exactly what you're doing.

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; not just them

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; their data partners

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; inc. your regime

12:26 schestowitz_TR2; today biden

12:27 schestowitz_TR2; tomorrow Trump-Greene

12:27 DaemonFC; Maybe.

12:27 DaemonFC; The Party would feel better about someone that can do two back to back terms.

12:28 DaemonFC; Vice Presidents don't have a good track record of being elected after the president's term is done.

12:28 DaemonFC; Sometimes it happens with coattails, like George H.W Bush.

12:29 DaemonFC; Sometimes the president dies in office and the VP goes on to win a full term.

12:29 DaemonFC; But trying to get elected after just being the VP for 8 years is not easy.

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12:31 DaemonFC; The economy wasn't in fantastic shape when Reagan got re-elected.

12:31 DaemonFC; And it was another landslide.

12:39 schestowitz_TR2; are you referring to the earlier article about raegan?

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12:43 DaemonFC; I did not see that. I was just commenting that elections don't always go the obvious way.

12:43 DaemonFC; I still think Trump would lose if he came back.

12:43 DaemonFC; Most people don't like Biden, but they like Trump less.

12:48 DaemonFC; If they're still talking about gun control and abortion on election day, and the economy is bad, they're going to lose a lot of seats in Congress.

12:48 DaemonFC; But most presidents lose a lot of seats in Congress, but then the voters are satisfied that they can't really do much anymore and give the president whose policies they just repudiated another term.

12:49 DaemonFC; So I think Biden will hang in there, but I also think we're looking at the biggest Republican majority in Congress since Gingrich's strategy against Bill Clinton in 1994 and 1996.

12:49 DaemonFC; The same thing basically happened to Bush, Obama, and Trump.

12:49 DaemonFC; So it's not like it's unique.

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12:50 DaemonFC; The Democrats have pretty much zero chance to hold the House or the Senate this year.

12:51 DaemonFC; They conduct rigged polling to try to claim the Democrats can hang in there somehow.

12:51 DaemonFC; Most Americans are not terribly fond of abortion or gun control, but they keep rigging the polls to make it sound like people back the Democrats, and most people do not.

12:52 DaemonFC; Only the most corrupt reprobate mind out there could possibly support totally unrestricted abortion.

12:53 DaemonFC; Could look at a doctor tearing a baby apart that could have survived at that stage and say "That's it! I want to be a part of that!".

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12:54 DaemonFC; "Sign me up! Kermit Gosnell for President!"

12:54 DaemonFC; I mean, there's definitely those people out there.

12:54 DaemonFC; Gosnell/Pelosi....San Francisco types I guess.

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13:47 schestowitz; work in process: http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents

http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents

13:47 TR Bot; High-Priority Opponents - Techrights


2 PM, June 4

14:11 TR News; #HowTo remove duplicate lines in a text file Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165626

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14:11 TR Bot; How to remove duplicate lines in a text file | Tux Machines

14:16 TR News; [GIT PULL] hte: New subsystem for v5.19-rc1 - Thierry Reding https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220603113908.78777-1-thierry.reding@gmail.com/ Source: gmail

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14:16 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] hte: New subsystem for v5.19-rc1 - Thierry Reding

14:17 TR News; Linus: "The DT bindings got the comment "why call it 'hardware timestamp'" when no other case seems sane." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wiVxF5VLFSuet3OrC7u1Gfb-ZyMs4W-KXAc42rXPRWmhA@mail.gmail.com/

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14:17 TR Bot; Re: [GIT PULL] hte: New subsystem for v5.19-rc1 - Linus Torvalds

14:21 MinceR; 04 060558 < DaemonFC> Drunk, 2 year old in the car with no car seat, and illegal immigrant with no driver's license or insurance.

14:22 MinceR; still sounds pretty uninteresting

14:22 TR News; "Phoronix's annoying uncle: - Congrats, now you can get your drivers license soon and drive down to Walmart to buy Microsoft'" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1326900-premium-special-to-celebrate-phoronix-s-18th-birthday

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14:22 TR Bot; Special To Celebrate Phoronix's 18th Birthday - Phoronix Forums

14:23 TR News; 5 Best Hunting Games for Linux: Your Must-try To Complete Many Quests Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165627

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14:23 TR Bot; 5 Best Hunting Games for Linux: Your Must-try To Complete Many Quests | Tux Machines

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14:25 TR News; On desktops/laptops, according to this Web survey, GNU/Linux is now at 5% of the market https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202206

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14:25 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats

14:29 TR News; Gulag, a mass SURVEILLANCE company, denying you access to a page for "privacy" reasons (e.g. TLS with self-signed cerf), is more ironic than I can put it into words...

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14:43 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/showthistoyourkidswhentheyreolder.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-showthistoyourkidswhentheyreolder#comic )

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14:43 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)

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3 PM, June 4

15:02 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/251876

↺ https://theins.press/en/news/251876

15:02 TR Bot; Kavkaz.Realii: Three Chechens murdered over group sex tape

15:02 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/04/national-guard-building-on-fire-in-russian-far-east-news "National Guard building on fire in Russian Far East"

↺ https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/04/national-guard-building-on-fire-in-russian-far-east-news

15:02 TR Bot; .

15:02 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/04/ex-spy-kovtun-linked-with-litvinenko-poisoning-dies-in-moscow-news "Ex-spy Kowtun linked with Litvinenko poisoning dies in Moscow"

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15:02 TR Bot; .

15:03 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/4/7350479/

↺ https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/4/7350479/

15:03 TR Bot; Mariupol: Occupiers no longer retrieve bodies from under rubble, but demolish houses and take them to landfill | Ukrayinska Pravda

15:04 XRevan86; https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-3 <https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/4/7350479/>

↺ https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-3

↺ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/4/7350479/>

15:04 TR Bot; Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 3 | Institute for the Study of War

15:04 XRevan86; > A Russian milblogger published a lengthy message on June 3 claiming that nearly the entire 35th Combined Arms Army has been destroyed in Izyum due to incompetent Russian commanders

15:04 schestowitz_TR2; "has been destroyed"

15:04 schestowitz_TR2; the people are sobjects to them

15:04 schestowitz_TR2; "cannon fodder"

15:05 schestowitz_TR2; objects, subjcts

15:05 schestowitz_TR2; "human resources"

15:05 schestowitz_TR2; "assets"

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15:07 XRevan86; schestowitz: Cargo 200

15:16 schestowitz_TR2; what does that mean?

15:17 XRevan86; schestowitz: That's on Wikipedia.

15:18 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200

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15:18 TR Bot; Cargo 200 - Wikipedia

15:18 schestowitz_TR2; I see

15:19 schestowitz_TR2; do they get cooked?

15:20 XRevan86; Not to my knowledge.

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15:24 MinceR; why are the coffins zinc-lined?

15:24 schestowitz_TR2; Z-lined

15:24 XRevan86; MinceR: Hermetic.

15:24 MinceR; ic

15:27 XRevan86; And X-rays pass through, so they can be examined without unsealing.

15:27 schestowitz_TR2; Vlad should be PUT IN one of those

15:27 schestowitz_TR2; and shipped to orbit

15:27 Ariadne; like sorceress adel from final fantasy 8?

15:29 schestowitz_TR2; lots of people will die needless and cities be destroyed for ther big ego of this small man

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15:30 TR News; 2022-06-04 SpellBinding: AELMUSO Wordo: GULCH gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-04.gmi

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15:32 XRevan86; MinceR: https://opt-10379.ssl.1c-bitrix-cdn.ru/upload/iblock/17a/17a78cc200e0a26d339282635b7db432.jpg That's how they look like.

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15:32 XRevan86; https://www.pohoroniy.ru/upload/iblock/fa2/fa2fa511eaee3dcc54d7a8b34d2c1d16.png

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15:33 XRevan86; Sometimes these Zink-lined coffins are just put into the proper coffins and buried like that.

15:33 TR News; "Not much bandwidth for personal computing these days. Since I've been back to work and working remote, the computer is not what I want to interface with after a work day. I'm still here, just haven't been motivated to transmit." gopher://sdf.org:70/1/users/xiled/phlog/2022/20220603_haw

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15:34 XRevan86; * Zinc

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15:40 schestowitz_TR2; it has gotten to the point where they treat people like meart

15:40 schestowitz_TR2; *meat

15:40 schestowitz_TR2; like italy in 2020

15:40 schestowitz_TR2; and then other european nations

15:40 schestowitz_TR2; (we still have about 100 people per day here perishing with COVID-19)

15:41 schestowitz_TR2; butt they have been cargo2000'd by borisnaro

15:41 XRevan86; There is a gradation. Can't get more meat-like than a mobilised person from the occupied territories of Ukraine.

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15:56 SomeH4x0r; hi

15:56 matey; hi

15:57 XRevan86;

15:57 XRevan86; hi

15:58 matey; now i need an umlaut

15:58 matey; XRevan86 do you have one handy

15:59 XRevan86; matey: No, but I can give you a "".

15:59 matey; no worries ill do it

15:59 matey;

15:59 matey; okay


4 PM, June 4

16:00 XRevan86; matey: So what's the idea?

16:01 matey;

16:01 matey;

16:01 matey; U

16:01 matey; v

16:01 matey; /me giggles

16:01 XRevan86;

16:03 psydroid2;

16:03 psydroid2;

16:03 matey; |

16:04 matey; the only words i know in russian are "cafe" and "bar"

16:04 SomeH4x0r; we need #techrights-ru

16:04 matey; even then i cant type them

16:04 matey; we need #techrights-ru <- way more fun when people speak russian here

16:04 matey; even if thyere just talking shit about westerners

16:05 SomeH4x0r; did make #uplink-ru on UplinkIRC, idk if it would be useful long-term

16:05 XRevan86; .

16:05 SomeH4x0r; I speak Ukrainian too

16:06 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: , :).

16:07 *XRevan86 "" "", .

16:07 SomeH4x0r; , unless it is among the words changed recently

16:08 XRevan86; ?

16:08 SomeH4x0r; yes

16:08 XRevan86; , .

16:09 *psydroid2 proposes #techrights-ua too

16:11 matey; obviously if you join #techrights-ru and someone stays there, its "created"

16:11 matey; but it wont be logged by default

16:12 matey; which could be a feature

16:12 matey; or a bug

16:13 *psydroid2

16:13 XRevan86; s///

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16:13 SomeH4x0r; hi

16:14 psydroid2; so it's different from the way it is in Polish?

16:14 SomeH4x0r; I don't know Polish

16:14 psydroid2; mwi troch po ukraisku

16:15 psydroid2; maybe that's where my confusion lies

16:15 psydroid2; I do, as I lived there for a year and a bit

16:15 XRevan86; psydroid2: I don't know why Polish is like that, Ukrainian has an affinity for a palatalised "s" (and "ts").

16:16 psydroid2; XRevan86, I am happy to be made aware of it, because I've been doing it wrong all along

16:17 matey; ,

16:19 XRevan86; ^ a phrase I wish to know the English version of

16:19 matey; "prove the obvious"

16:19 matey; i mean, theres no idiom for it that i know of

16:19 matey; its not a "saying" in english afaik

16:19 matey; /me thinks

16:19 XRevan86; matey: That's not really what that's about.

16:20 matey; explain it to me then

16:20 XRevan86; It's more about proving something unsubstantiated as false.

16:20 matey; oh

16:20 matey; i mean "you cant prove a negative"

16:21 matey; and then theres "unfalsifiable" as a single word

16:21 matey; which is probably closer in meaning

16:22 matey; but id be surprised if you werent familiar with these already

16:22 XRevan86; I am, it's close but not it.

16:25 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_jokes

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_jokes

16:25 TR Bot; Russian jokes - Wikipedia

16:25 XRevan86; > The Hare runs like crazy through a forest and meets the Wolf. The Wolf asks: "What's the matter? Why such haste?" / "The camels there are caught and shod!" The Wolf says: "But you're not a camel!" / "Hey, after you are caught and shod, just you try to prove to them that you are not a camel!"

16:25 XRevan86; > This joke is a suggested to be an origin of the popular Russian saying "try to prove you are not a camel" in the sense "try to prove something to someone who doesn't want to listen", used in relation to violations of the presumption of innocence by Russian law enforcement agencies, or when someone has to fight the bureaucracy to get official papers proving that one has lost a leg or is even alive.

16:25 matey; yeah i was going to say

16:25 matey; there are idioms in english for people who just wont ever listen, no matter what you say

16:26 matey; but they come from a different angle, focusing on the person who wont listen, rather than the impossibility of explaining

16:26 matey; or maybe

16:26 matey; having to explain until youre "blue in the mouth"

16:27 matey; the most famous english example of this of course being the dead parrot sketch from monty python

16:27 matey; john cleese goes into a pet shop to complain that the parrot he just purchased there "not alf an hour ago" was stone dead

16:27 matey; and that the only reason it had stayed on its perch in the first place is it had been nailed there

16:28 matey; so the owner of the shop proceeds to argue with him and explain that "ees just resting!"

16:28 XRevan86; matey: https://i.pinimg.com/474x/c5/31/ad/c531ad1ce4a3115bc4fb39dd490e4674--inner-peace-quotes-spiritual-quotes.jpg

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16:28 XRevan86; matey: This photograph discredits the Russian army.

16:28 matey; ill have a look

16:29 XRevan86; matey: https://theins.press/en/news/251573

↺ https://theins.press/en/news/251573

16:29 TR Bot; Oppositionist fined for discrediting Russian army by posting Vietnam War protests photo

16:29 matey; that is a classic anti-war slogan

16:29 matey; mandatory happiness, XRevan86

16:30 XRevan86; Prove that it doesn't discredit the Russian army.

16:30 matey; exactly

16:30 matey; prove stallman (i realise this is a smaller example by comparison) isnt a terrible person

16:30 matey; guilty until proven innocent even

16:31 matey; but this goes beyond guilt

16:31 matey; and accusations

16:31 matey; or is it mostly about that?

16:31 matey; prove youre not a camel

16:35 matey; when will the russian army be held accountable for discrediting themselves?

16:36 matey; oh, you cant ask that, because it discredits them

16:36 matey; good on, pudding

16:37 matey; winning the argument is against the rules

16:37 matey; by winning you forfeit

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5 PM, June 4

17:20 MinceR; 04 163210 < XRevan86> MinceR: https://opt-10379.ssl.1c-bitrix-cdn.ru/upload/iblock/17a/17a78cc200e0a26d339282635b7db432.jpg That's how they look like.

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17:20 MinceR; looks like there are gaps

17:21 XRevan86; There shouldn't be.

17:23 MinceR; indeed

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17:29 TR Bot; The Plunder of EPO Examiners Continues | Techrights

17:54 matey; "Marx assumed that the starting point of a movement in the direction of socialism would be a high level of living standards.

17:55 matey; Only by completely satisfying all the material aspirations of men and women will it be possible to arrive at a level where such aspirations cease to dominate peoples lives and thoughts, preparing the way for a qualitatively superior level of human civilisation."-- ted grant

17:55 matey; for all the bullshit so-called "socialists" out there making a lot out of (nothing) piddling reforms

17:56 matey; including new labour

17:56 matey; socialism implies progress that the masses can see

17:56 matey; if the masses cant see progress, its probably not socialism

17:56 matey; but theres plenty of the fake, bullshit variety

17:57 matey; the stuff political careers are made of

17:57 matey; careerists are hardly better than plunderers and embezzlers

17:57 matey; theyre liars and frauds

17:57 matey; similarly, lieplanet has nothing to offer freedom except less return, less freedom, more marketing and more censorship

17:57 matey; fraud, fraud, bullshit, fraud

17:58 matey; when its the real thing, its obvious

17:58 matey; maybe some people dont understand it, but those that do understand dont have to guess

17:58 matey; because it isnt fucking complicated

17:58 matey; only the bullshit is complicated

17:58 matey; of course im talking about results. methods are complicated. results (real ones) are plain to see

17:59 matey; careerists make results complicated, because theyre justifying bullshit with more bullshit

17:59 matey; all theyre doing is holding people back

17:59 matey; covering up for the problems


6 PM, June 4

18:00 matey; maybe they say there are problems, then they cover up for the causes of those problems

18:00 matey; and finally say "oh, its not so bad"

18:00 matey; as if people are too stupid to know if things are bad

18:00 matey; of course if you control communication, then you can make it look like most people agree with bullshit

18:00 matey; then people feel a little more helpless to state the fucking obvious

18:01 matey; not that such has happened to lieplanet, the fsf, or the founder of the movement

18:01 matey; oh wait

18:01 matey; yes it has

18:02 matey; there are absolutely people who are never happy no matter what you do

18:02 matey; but when more and more people are silenced by the notion that you cant make everyone happy

18:02 matey; then youre in major bullshit territory

18:03 matey; even people who are wrong about the causes, the culprits, etc

18:03 matey; know that something at least, is wrong

18:03 matey; you cant rid them of that notion, it has to go somewhere

18:03 matey; they know (for a fact) that something is wrong

18:04 matey; if you prove (with bullshit) that it isnt x, y, z when it is actually x, y, z

18:04 matey; they will assume it has to be p. d. q instead

18:04 matey; because they know its something at least

18:04 matey; that much theyre right about

18:04 matey; if you hide the culprits well enough, people will make them up

18:05 matey; but theyre not making up the overall problem, theyre simply determined to find the fault somewhere

18:05 matey; the better you hide the real problems, the more people will come up with other problems (even imaginary ones)

18:05 matey; the suspicion of millions of people will flow somewhere

18:06 matey; even if it flows to nonsense

18:06 matey; fix the real problems and people will make up fewer ridiculous ones

18:06 matey; human imagination will not cease to exist, but the abuse of that imagination will naturally go back to reasonable levels (mostly)

18:06 matey; at least relativelty speaking

18:07 matey; just for one example, if debian didnt suck, pocock probably wouldnt be a name we know now

18:08 matey; i was actually thinking of the pandemic and the nuttier responses to that, but pocock works as an example too

18:08 matey; the more real problems get brushed under the rug, the harder people will try to imagine whats under there

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18:09 matey; its a symptom as much as a cause

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18:14 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-3-22-10.jpg

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18:17 matey; mincer: if we were built more like cats, we might never need physical therapy or chiropractic adjustments

18:18 MinceR; :>

18:18 matey; i do prefer a sore back to a dick covered in stiff hairs though

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18:21 MinceR; lol

18:23 matey; also cat dna wouldnt save royals. they tend to breed the way pugs are bred

18:23 matey; no dna can withstand that https://www.theonion.com/dog-breeders-issue-massive-recall-of-07-pugs-1819569121

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18:23 TR Bot; Dog Breeders Issue Massive Recall Of '07 Pugs

18:28 TR News; Ubuntu-Based Escuelas Linux 7.5 Released with Linux Kernel 5.17, Updated Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165628

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18:28 TR Bot; Ubuntu-Based Escuelas Linux 7.5 Released with Linux Kernel 5.17, Updated Apps | Tux Machines

18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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18:32 matey; /me thinks pugs are cute, but maybe not as prone to being healthy as other breeds

18:32 matey; s/pugs/royals/ s/cute/human/ s/healthy/sane/

18:33 MinceR; just don't have royals

18:33 MinceR; or pugs

18:33 matey; <MinceR> just don't have royals

18:33 matey; +

18:33 matey; im close to neutral on pugs (though im relieved that i dont own one)

18:34 SomeH4x0r; for me, pets are a waste of money and time

18:34 MinceR; they're dogs, therefore they shouldn't exist

18:34 matey; thats a surprisingly strong position on dogs

18:34 SomeH4x0r; in some cases, might also cause health issues

18:35 SomeH4x0r; and damaged/destroyed property

18:35 MinceR; it was animal abuse in the first place to turn gray wolves into dogs

18:35 matey; it was animal abuse in the first place to turn gray wolves into dogs <- i sort of get what youre saying there

18:37 XRevan86; "royals" <- https://smbc-comics.com/comic/noble

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18:37 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Noble

18:37 matey; http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3800/fc03754.htm Florence: I would be careful.

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18:37 TR Bot; Freefall 03754 May 27, 2022

18:37 matey; Florence: Humans did uplift wolves. But you also turned us into dachshunds and chihuahuas.

18:37 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/04/ukraine-reports-first-dead-bodies-swap-with-russia-news "Ukraine reports first dead bodies swap with Russia"

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18:37 TR Bot; .

18:38 matey; i presume it would be unfair to assume youre against all examples of animal domestication

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18:39 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533119410138927104

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18:39 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Pundits on Russian state TV begrudgingly acknowledge that Russian-speakers in Ukraine they supposedly came to "liberate" are actually fighting against invading Russian troops. Instead of leaving, they advocate breaking Ukraine's will to resist by erasing Ukraine's modern history."|nitter

18:39 matey; "Humans did uplift wolves." shes referring to the fictional context in which she was given higher intelligence and the capability of speaking

18:40 MinceR; i don't see how humans uplifted wolves

18:40 MinceR; afaik dogs are stupider than wolves in general

18:41 matey; ive always suspected that dogs are stupid

18:41 matey; sometimes they do heroic things and then appear smarter

18:42 matey; the difference between a dog and a cat is that a cat sees you on the toilet and thinks "gross. you shit where you drink?"

18:42 MinceR; lol

18:42 matey; a dog sees you sitting on the toilet and thinks "WOW! YOU CAN DRINK WITH YOUR ARSE?!"

18:42 MinceR; there are many differences

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18:43 TR News; Tidying Up | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/tidying-up/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/04/tidying-up/

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18:43 MinceR; for example, feliformia have double-chambered auditory bullae, caniformia don't

18:43 TR Bot; Tidying Up | Techrights

18:43 matey; cool

18:45 matey; the wolf probably sees you on the toilet and thinks "i hope that isnt emptying into the public water supply"

18:48 matey; or maybe "how the fuck did i get into this persons bathroom?"

18:48 matey; "ooh, grandmas clothes"

18:49 matey; im surprised the religious right allowed that story about cross-dressing animals through

18:49 matey; LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD IS TURNING PEOPLE INTO HOMOSEXUALS!

18:50 matey; if thats all it takes, you were probably most of the way there already

18:52 MinceR; the wolf sees you on the toilet and decides whether you're a threat or prey

18:52 matey; those are good priorities in the big scheme of things

18:52 matey; very practical

18:56 matey; The quality of Soviet consumer goods was not as bad as the pro-bourgeois press now likes to make out. At any rate, there was no reason in principle why the quality of these goods should be any worse than those produced in the West. In those sectors WHERE quality received DUE ATTENTION, very good products were made.

18:56 matey; did you know the guardian existed in 1986? i didnt

18:57 MinceR; people generally don't know how bad the quality of those goods was

18:57 matey; some of them were appalling

18:57 matey; When we think of Soviet excellence in technology, we are accustomed to their achievements in space, and to the high quality of many of their military products. <- the guardian, 1986

18:58 MinceR; the cars they made had to be taken directly to service when they were brand new to fix the manufacturing defects

18:58 matey; the tractors fell apart a lot too

18:58 MinceR; they copied usian and japanese calculators, but did a poor job even at that

18:59 MinceR; but it's ok because they didn't have to compete with anyone

18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 0

18:59 MinceR; and complaining citizens would earn a quick trip to the gulag

18:59 matey; its ok because they werent held to any standard of quality

18:59 matey; and complaining citizens would earn a quick trip to the gulag <- this

18:59 matey; it was run by bureaucracy, not democracy

18:59 matey; the citizens WOULD HAVE complained, given the chance


7 PM, June 4

19:00 matey; its ironic, but the citizens would have held production to a higher standard than the oppressive system could

19:01 matey; but the oppressive system was more interested in volume

19:01 matey; which led to utter crap

19:01 matey; the space programme didnt need thousands of rockets capable of manned spaceflight

19:01 matey; they took their fucking time

19:02 matey; and did it right

19:02 matey; but if theyd been making space rockets for the masses, nothing would make it into orbit but the factory itself

19:02 matey; because production must increase!

19:03 matey; its a lot like the meat industry in the states

19:03 matey; a lot of bad shit happens when you lean too hard on that lever

19:03 matey; if the workers have a say, its a lot safer

19:04 matey; production may go down, quality at least has the chance to increase

19:05 matey; democracy is more efficient than bureaucracy because the people who know whats going on are closer to the decision making process

19:05 matey; bureaucrats make terrible guesses on their best day, with data that is less useful, and it increases corruption too

19:06 matey; every citizen gets a left shoe, and every bureaucrat gets 15 pairs

19:10 matey; mincer, xrevan86: is a zhiguli any good or a pile of shit?

19:10 XRevan86; matey: Can't it be both?

19:10 matey; why not

19:12 matey; "However, undoubtedly, the general level of quality lagged far behind Western standards. Colour television sets had to be taken back for repairs on average twice in their first year of use. They also had a tendency to explode. Shoes were, for some reason, of a particularly poor quality, and so on."

19:13 matey; "They also had a tendency to explode."

19:13 matey; molotov television

19:14 matey; "the television will be revolutionised"

19:14 matey; hopefully the shoes didnt do the same

19:14 matey; "AHH, FUCK!"

19:14 matey; "leonid, whats wrong?"

19:14 matey; "my shoe went off"

19:15 matey; "the other one?"

19:16 matey; of course if the workers could say anything, this would probably get fixed

19:16 matey; too bad they all had to sign a code of conduct

19:17 matey; the shoes and televisions were shit, but at least they didnt have any offensive names

19:18 matey; this sign discredits the television manufacturing ministry

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19:23 matey; this is not a camel http://toonopedia.com/joecamel.jpg

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19:23 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

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19:23 TR Bot; The Treachery of Images - Wikipedia

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19:27 MinceR; 04 201004 < matey> mincer, xrevan86: is a zhiguli any good or a pile of shit?

19:27 MinceR; it's a pile of shit

19:28 MinceR; tiny, weak, slow, ugly thing that needs a lot of servicing often

19:34 DaemonFC; Oh, a Kia?

19:35 DaemonFC; GM redesigned their cars in the early 2000s and those designs are still mostly influencing their current cars. They don't look bad. The Aztek was a WTF.

19:35 DaemonFC; But those Asian things are all like a box on wheels.

19:35 DaemonFC; Doesn't seem aerodynamic at all.

19:36 DaemonFC; Some of the redesigns that GM did were to help CAFE (fuel economy).

19:36 DaemonFC; By changing the aerodynamics, you don't have to give up something else (like engine performance) to attain better gas mileage.

19:37 MinceR; i like the way the aztek looks

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20:05 TR News; 10 Free and Open Source Game Utilities Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165629

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20:05 TR Bot; 10 Free and Open Source Game Utilities | Tux Machines

20:05 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165630

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20:05 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines

20:09 TR News; The EPOs staff is once again feeling the wrath of Antnio Campinos, who takes away many of the workers benefits while pushing the surplus into speculation in clear defiance of the EPC http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/plunder-of-epo-examiners/

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20:09 TR Bot; The Plunder of EPO Examiners Continues | Techrights

20:09 TR News; Tidied-up Wiki and routine blog posts will be the strategic goal as we approach another milestone; the site ought to become more accessible to non-regulars http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/tidying-up/

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20:09 TR Bot; Tidying Up | Techrights

20:10 TR News; Now that the EPO has been turned into a rubber-stamping machine all that the management of the EPO needs is a bunch of monkeys or kangaroos to OK all granted European Patents, no questions asked http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/meme-unified-in-patent-maximalism/

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20:10 TR Bot; [Meme] Unified in Patent Maximalism | Techrights

20:11 TR News; Fingerprint Sensor with Arduino: FPM10A Explained for Beginners https://peppe8o.com/fingerprint-sensor-with-arduino-fpm10a-explained-for-beginners/ Source: peppe8o

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20:11 TR Bot; Fingerprint Sensor with Arduino: FPM10A Explained for Beginners

20:13 TR News; [GIT PULL] Staging driver updates for 5.19-rc1 - Greg KH https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Ypng29bf0vGJ20fo@kroah.com/ Source: greg kroah

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20:13 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Staging driver updates for 5.19-rc1 - Greg KH

20:15 TR News; Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Support Ends on July 14 2022 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165507#comment-33880

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20:15 TR Bot; Ubuntu 21.10 (Impish Indri) End of Life | Tux Machines

20:16 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165631

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20:16 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines

20:21 TR News; GNU radio https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-13358-z

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20:21 TR Bot; Solar radio emission as a disturbance of radiomobile networks | Scientific Reports

20:25 TR News; AlmaLinux 9, a RedHat Linux with KDE and Xfce desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165285#comment-33881

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20:25 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9 Officially Released, Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Tux Machines

20:30 TR News; What if they're all scams, to a greater or lesser degree? https://cointelegraph.com/news/is-education-the-key-to-curbing-the-rise-of-scammy-high-apy-projects

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20:30 TR Bot; Is education the key to curbing the rise of scammy, high APY projects?

20:30 TR News; Summary: US bill to break up Googles digital advertising business https://www.medianama.com/2022/06/223-summary-competition-transparency-digital-advertising-act/ Source: medianama

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20:30 TR Bot; Summary: US bill to break up Google's digital advertising business

20:31 TR News; AMD Mendocino Laptops Make It Easy To Have A Steam Deck Laptop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165632

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20:31 TR Bot; AMD Mendocino Laptops Make It Easy To Have A Steam Deck Laptop | Tux Machines

20:32 TR News; IBM: we fire HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of workers, then we moan about "talent shortage" https://news.yahoo.com/ibm-partners-cau-stem-job-110736011.html

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20:32 TR Bot; IBM partners with CAU to provide STEM job training and tackle talent shortage

20:32 TR News; Excellence Joshua: My mission isto empower 5000 young African women with basic digital skills | The Guardian Nigeria News - Nigeria and World News " Guardian Woman - The Guardian Nigeria News - Nigeria and World News https://guardian.ng/guardian-woman/excellence-joshua-my-mission-is-to-empower-5000-young-african-women-with-basic-digital-skills/ Source: guardian

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20:32 TR Bot; Excellence Joshua: My mission isto empower 5000 young African women with basic digital skills | The Guardian Nigeria News - Nigeria and World News Guardian Woman The Guardian Nigeria News Nigeria and World News

20:33 TR News; The Internet Used to be Smaller and Nicer. Lets Get It Back. - News Update https://newsupdate.uk/the-internet-used-to-be-smaller-and-nicer-lets-get-it-back/ Source: newsupdate

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20:33 TR Bot; The Internet Used to be Smaller and Nicer. Lets Get It Back. - News Update

20:36 TR News; METAVERSE!!! LOL! Our future... is FICTION and hype! https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/06/02/2455438/0/en/GlobalData-Plc-Metaverse-to-Revolutionize-Digital-Media.html

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20:36 TR Bot; GlobalData Plc: Metaverse to Revolutionize Digital Media

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20:39 TR News; Chainguard nets some financial backing https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chainguard-raises-50m-in-series-a-to-make-software-supply-chain-secure-by-default-introduces-secure-container-base-images-301559970.html

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20:39 TR Bot; Chainguard Raises $50M in Series A to Make Software Supply Chain Secure by Default, Introduces Secure Container Base Images

20:40 TR News; AWS and "on-prem" are contradictory terms; AWS = outsourcing and proprietary https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/02/aws_launches_two_new_challenges/

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20:40 TR Bot; AWS launches two challenges to on-prem hardware vendors The Register

20:41 TR News; "Many information security professionals have long known that passwords are a weak link in the security chain. For example, one in four breaches in 2021 utilized stolen passwords, according to the latest Verizon Data Breach Investigations Report." https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/3-authentication-strategies-organizations-need-for-cybersecurity-today-enterprise-password-management-and-beyond/

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20:42 TR News; They would gain a big edge by just removing Windows https://www.newsweek.com/kirsten-gillibrand-pushes-cyber-academy-fight-china-russia-cyber-war-1711910

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20:42 TR Bot; Kirsten Gillibrand Pushes 'Cyber Academy' to Fight China, Russia Cyber War

20:43 TR News; Assuming Kubernetes is not money down the drain https://siliconangle.com/2022/06/02/kubecost-launches-open-source-opencost-project-keep-lid-kubernetes-spending/

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20:43 TR Bot; launches open-source OpenCost project to keep a lid on Kubernetes spending - SiliconANGLE

20:45 TR News; "The New York City Department of Education (DOE) has decided to pull the plug on academic software company Illuminate Education after the third party vendors January data breach compromised the data of over 820,000 students." https://thecyberwire.com/newsletters/privacy-briefing/4/105

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20:45 TR Bot; New York City schools cut ties with academic software firm. Hive ransomware hits healthcare provider. Unprotected MySQL servers.

20:46 TR News; But people still lack money to spend. Stop blaming "supply chain". https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/30/shanghai_lockdowns_to_end/

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20:46 TR Bot; Shanghai lockdowns to end, perhaps easing tech supply woes The Register

20:47 TR News; "Over-pumping of San Joaquin Valley's groundwater basins has caused the region's surface to slowly collapse." https://patch.com/california/paloalto/stanford-study-finds-san-joaquin-farmland-could-continue-sinking

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20:47 TR Bot; Study Finds San Joaquin Farmland Could Continue Sinking | Palo Alto, CA Patch

20:49 TR News; Linux Foundation is a front group for proprietary software companies; seems inadequate for it to speak on such issues, in effect promoting anti-Free software FUD https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/698591/open-source-software-security-mobilisation-plan-takeaways-security-leaders/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/

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20:49 TR Bot; The Open Source Software Security Mobilisation Plan: Takeaways for security leaders - Reseller News

20:49 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Board in 2022: 86% Corporate and 81% Proprietary Software Companies | Techrights

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20:49 TR News; That's just adding back doors, VMware has nothing of value to offer https://www.streetinsider.com/Business+Wire/VMware+Advances+Its+Anywhere+Workspace+Platform+To+Enable+Intelligent%2C+Proactive+Security+for+All+Employee+Devices/20165304.html

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20:49 TR Bot; VMware Advances Its Anywhere Workspace Platform To Enable Intelligent, Proactive Security for All Employee Devices

20:51 TR News; 'Fortune' is running puff pieces (probabaly paif-for fluff) for evil company, Intuit. They misuse buzzwords like "inclusivity" to describe a company that widens the gasp and breaks the rules (recently fined) https://fortune.com/2022/06/02/intuit-ceo-sasan-goodarzi-leadership-next/

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20:51 TR Bot; Intuit's CEO believes inclusivity benefits the world and the company's bottom line | Fortune

20:52 TR News; Media was supposed to INFORM us. Instead it became a FORCE OF OCCUPATION AGAINST US. Working FOR those it was supposed to EXPOSE (to us).

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21:00 TR News; "In our Innards section we discuss our free and open source alternatives for proprietary software." https://mintcast.org/2022/06/04/382-5-its-time-to-focus/

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21:00 TR Bot; 382.5 Its Time to Focus mintCast

21:04 TR News; "I discovered that my public library offers a really huge range of digital comics and graphic novels! I used to read quite a lot of comics but fell out of the habit a few years ago. This will be a great chance to check out some new titles and catch up with stuff I missed." gemini://tilde.club/~hammie/tiny-gemlog.gmi

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21:05 TR News; "My PR to add Opal to Krispin Schulz's Awesome Gemini list was merged, so Opal is now listed among all the fantastic Gemini-related projects over there." gemini://gemini.schuhardt.net/opal-update.gmi

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21:07 TR News; "Alpine meets all of the essential criteria and most of the optional criteria (documentation is the weakest link), and far better than any other Linux distribution" gemini://drewdevault.com/2021/05/06/Praise-for-Alpine-Linux.gmi

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21:09 schestowitz_TR2; <DaemonFC> I still think Trump would lose if he came back.

21:09 schestowitz_TR2; unles they pit HRC against him, again..

21:09 schestowitz_TR2; after all those Epstein reveals, which omplicated at least two Bills

21:10 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/04/welfare-queen/

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21:10 TR Bot; Welfare Queen BaronHK's Rants

21:11 TR News; Oligarchs' media helps ICBM spread victim-shaming lies. The issue isn't "talent shortage" but greedy corporations like ICBM firing many highly skilled people who are "spoiled" and "expensive" https://www.wsbradio.com/news/ibm-partners-with-cau-provide-stem-job-training-tackle-talent-shortage/TAJLZIQHRNCVVBN72F5UVKCVVU/

↺ https://www.wsbradio.com/news/ibm-partners-with-cau-provide-stem-job-training-tackle-talent-shortage/TAJLZIQHRNCVVBN72F5UVKCVVU/

21:11 TR Bot; IBM partners with CAU to provide STEM job training and tackle talent shortage 95.5 WSB

21:11 schestowitz_TR2; ^^ like your dad, DaemonFC

21:11 schestowitz_TR2; sounds like felta was hard-working and willing

21:11 schestowitz_TR2; but companies like rca had another plan

21:12 DaemonFC; The "welfare queen" thing.

21:12 TR News; [Old] Encyclopaedia Britannica's New Business Model: Sue For Patent Infringement https://www.techdirt.com/2007/05/31/encyclopaedia-britannicas-new-business-model-sue-for-patent-infringement/

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21:12 TR Bot; Britannica's New Business Model: Sue For Patent Infringement | Techdirt

21:12 DaemonFC; The slumlords in Indiana.

21:13 schestowitz_TR2; they should call them slumslime

21:13 schestowitz_TR2; the people who own these

21:13 schestowitz_TR2; and take away all the surplus from tenannt

21:13 schestowitz_TR2; while calling them or those places "slums"

21:13 schestowitz_TR2; and still looiking to profit off it..

21:14 TR News; Oh gosh, this waw attempted in the 90s and never caught on. Maybe try to it "meta" and "verse" something for reinvigorated hype? https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/apple-ar-vr-headset-to-feature-content-from-hollywood-directors-report-says/

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21:14 TR Bot; AR, VR Headset to Feature Content From Hollywood Directors, Report Says - CNET

21:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Mom's landlord is letting the place turn into a dump while increasing her rent so much that other landlords she talked to were like "God damn!".

21:15 TR News; An "attractions for all"... except the animals. They don't wish to be there. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/nz-travel-the-pioneering-auckland-aquarium-with-undersea-attractions-for-all/JES5H74OKTDNEQ6MCF4DOBUVWI/

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21:15 TR Bot; NZ Travel: The pioneering Auckland aquarium with undersea attractions for all - NZ Herald

21:15 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: maybe he feels like she would pay no matter what

21:16 schestowitz_TR2; or starts negotiation from a peak

21:16 schestowitz_TR2; like Kroger CEO

21:16 DaemonFC; I hesitate to mention anyone by name with accusations like these even though I witnessed it going on.

21:16 DaemonFC; He wouldn't negotiate.

21:16 DaemonFC; So I told her to just pay him what he wants, week by week, and get out when she can.

21:17 DaemonFC; Turn over the keys and give him notice to vacate via certified mail so he can't say she didn't do it. Record her dropping it all into the envelope and giving it to the post office.

21:17 TR News; Did Sandbag get sandbagged? https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sidelining-sheryl-sandberg-whats-really-going-on-inside-facebook-ngtknrcdr

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21:17 TR Bot; Sidelining Sheryl Sandberg: whats really going on inside Facebook | News | The Sunday Times

21:17 DaemonFC; Under Indiana law, you can't be evicted if you've surrendered the property.

21:18 DaemonFC; You can be sued for back rent or breaking a lease, if that's what's going on, but they can't say it was an eviction.

21:18 DaemonFC; She doesn't have a lease.

21:18 DaemonFC; She's a tenant at will going week by week.

21:18 DaemonFC; That puts the landlord in a very bad place to claim damaged for unpaid rent.

21:18 DaemonFC; *damages

21:18 schestowitz_TR2; the housing bubble will burst

21:19 schestowitz_TR2; I don't know when

21:19 DaemonFC; I advised her that if he sues her, then show up for court, and exactly what to say.

21:19 schestowitz_TR2; the issue is, fiscal policies is controlled by the rich

21:19 schestowitz_TR2; they would sabotage anything in the system to avoid that bubble from bursting

21:19 DaemonFC; "Always respond in person or else the court will issue a default ruling and assume everything he told the judge is true."

21:19 schestowitz_TR2; like massive inflation hikes

21:19 DaemonFC; Most dirtbags that sue you figure you won't respond and they can pull one over on the court real fast.

21:19 DaemonFC; Because most people ignore it and don't show.

21:20 DaemonFC; If they figure you will respond, sometimes they go shopping for a jurisdiction, and sometimes it sticks.

21:20 TR News; "She voted for Trump." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/04/welfare-queen/

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21:20 TR Bot; Welfare Queen BaronHK's Rants

21:21 DaemonFC; Like Depp suing Heard in Virginia, despite Heard never having lived or even been there.

21:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I advised mom on shopping for jurisdiction during her last divorce.

21:21 DaemonFC; It made things less of a disaster.

21:21 DaemonFC; The judge in her county is a real asshole and knows her ex husband.

21:21 DaemonFC; It's doubtful he would recuse himself.

21:22 TR News; "Ive talked to Richard Stallman about this numerous times as he calls for a beefed up IRS. Ive told him they need to modernize their systems to catch red flags on tax returns (they still use software written in COBOL during the Kennedy Administration), and they need to start prioritizing these rich assholes who consider gaming the system par for the course" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/04/welfare-queen/

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21:22 DaemonFC; So I told her go up to Whitley County and slap him with divorce papers from that court. They asked her why she was doing that and she cited conflict of interest involving the judge and her husband.

21:22 DaemonFC; During the trial, the judge up in Whitley sided with mom over Dave more often than not.

21:23 DaemonFC; So it seems to me that the judge saw what was going on.

21:23 DaemonFC; Dave tried to lie to the court and I told mom how to untangle the lies and prove he was lying.

21:23 schestowitz_TR2; seems she hhad a tough life

21:23 schestowitz_TR2; and still has

21:23 DaemonFC; It got the judge really mad at Dave.

21:23 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR2> and still has

21:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, she's gone from men beating her up to some asshole who lives in a gated community in Florida jacking up her rent because he wanted to buy a bigger house and make her pay for it.

21:24 schestowitz_TR2; jackass

21:24 schestowitz_TR2; I could say **f

21:24 schestowitz_TR2; but that would trigged mr social justUS

21:25 DaemonFC; He even flaunted it to her while they were on the phone.

21:25 schestowitz_TR2; yeah, I need more money..

21:25 DaemonFC; That he sold the place in Florida (which was on a private island iirc).

21:25 schestowitz_TR2; ..coz need bigger home

21:25 DaemonFC; Then he made a profit off it and "bought a place twice as big".

21:25 schestowitz_TR2; not because he faces forclosure

21:25 schestowitz_TR2; he wants an upgrade... udirin g pandemic

21:25 schestowitz_TR2; *during

21:26 DaemonFC; Oh, he was the one that went there to hide from the pandemic and he had a maskless dinner party with 6 other rich people.

21:26 DaemonFC; One of them had it, and everyone at the party got COVID, including him.

21:26 schestowitz_TR2; good

21:26 schestowitz_TR2; hope it left him scarred a bit

21:26 schestowitz_TR2; took a few years off his life

21:26 DaemonFC; Nothing has so far.

21:27 DaemonFC; Guy has HIV and cancer.

21:27 DaemonFC; And you would never know it.

21:27 DaemonFC; He looks as healthy as any other guy his age.

21:28 DaemonFC; He's been dealing with the cancer going into remission and coming back off and on, and it isn't in remission now.

21:28 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D251.jpg

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21:28 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D605.jpg

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21:28 DaemonFC; So in addition to buying a bigger house in the middle of all of this and flaunting how rich he is, nothing kills him because he's so rich (off of other people) that he can just add more pills and chemo and laser beams for whatever it is.

21:29 DaemonFC; And if his medical bills cost $10 million that year, who cares?

21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-03.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi

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21:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, It's like Ahnuld.

21:30 DaemonFC; And all of the heart surgeries. Anyone else would be dead, dead, dead.

21:30 schestowitz_TR2; Stallone also

21:30 DaemonFC; Even in your country, some NHS bean counter would be stonewalling them from seeing a cardiologist for 8 years.

21:30 schestowitz_TR2; they even were in hospital together

21:30 schestowitz_TR2; recovering

21:31 DaemonFC; Then they'd be dead anyway even if it was 'free".

21:31 schestowitz_TR2; from all those anabolic stroids

21:31 schestowitz_TR2; *steroids

21:31 schestowitz_TR2; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone

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21:31 TR Bot; Sylvester Stallone - Wikipedia

21:31 schestowitz_TR2; look at his face

21:31 schestowitz_TR2; he looos like a bottox pie

21:31 DaemonFC; LOL

21:33 schestowitz_TR2; Michael is already on his third wife

21:33 schestowitz_TR2; quite common among those "class"

21:34 DaemonFC; I don't plan to ever be divorced, but if it did happen (and I don't see any reason why it would), then I probably wouldn't continue to step in it.

21:34 schestowitz_TR2; oh, the Schwarzenegger divorce was only last year

21:35 DaemonFC; I went out on a limb for Mandy because I barely knew him at the time and it all just sort of worked out for the most part.

21:35 schestowitz_TR2; iit'll be ok

21:35 schestowitz_TR2; we have our 10th in sept.

21:35 schestowitz_TR2; btw, my sister got engaged today

21:35 schestowitz_TR2; not the one in the US

21:36 DaemonFC; I quickly surmised that I liked him and that I did not like his sister very much.

21:36 DaemonFC; But I kind of bit my tongue because I needed her to go along with it and not scream until it was too late to do much about it.

21:37 schestowitz_TR2; wikipedia does not mention the kid born out of wedlock

21:37 schestowitz_TR2; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Schwarzenegger#/media/File:Patrick_Schwarzenegger_TIFF_2012.jpg

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21:37 TR Bot; Patrick Schwarzenegger - Wikipedia

21:38 schestowitz_TR2; when you don't max up on steroids like "dad"

21:39 DaemonFC; Eh, he is part Kennedy.

21:39 DaemonFC; Saw the picture and wondered.

21:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The article about the Bose system is coming along.

21:40 DaemonFC; I took several detours into talking about how bad Bluetooth is and what a joke the SoundToch dock is and why I refused to pay more for that, and psychoacoustics.

21:40 DaemonFC; And to take a shit on Apple.

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; oh, btw

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; today I went to a sho

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; looking for speakers

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; I already ranted in anothr channel about it

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; they only sell shit

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; all this sound bar BS

21:40 DaemonFC; The Bluetooth Subband Codec is so bad that not even going from FLAC to the receiver over SBC in the middle sounds great.

21:40 schestowitz_TR2; unbelievablke

21:41 DaemonFC; I tried it with MP3 for kicks and it was horrendous.

21:41 schestowitz_TR2; they figured out how to bilk people for x10 more money than they should spend

21:41 DaemonFC; Eh, as a refurb, I didn't pay an exorbitant amount of money.

21:41 DaemonFC; I almost always go refurb on expensive appliances.

21:42 DaemonFC; That way you get good stuff and don't pay tons and tons of money. Usually no more than half of what a brand new one retails for.

21:42 DaemonFC; You should be seeing a discount of at least 30-50% on refurbs, and I've never had a problem with one.

21:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The obvious codec for Bluetooth at that time should have been Musepack.

21:46 TR News; Links 04/06/2022: Tails 5.1 Finally Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/tails-5-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/04/tails-5-1/

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21:46 TR Bot; Links 04/06/2022: Tails 5.1 Finally Out | Techrights

21:46 DaemonFC; It's not badly written.

21:46 TR News; Tails 5.1 is out Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165633

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21:46 TR Bot; Tails 5.1 is out | Tux Machines

21:46 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165634

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21:46 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines

21:46 DaemonFC; It expands on MPEG Layer II but adds psychoacoustic model tuning, clear voice detection, M/S stereo encoding, VBR is mandatory, etc.

21:46 DaemonFC; It's pretty much what MP3 should have been and wasn't, and it's open source.

21:47 DaemonFC; I think it's better than Vorbis, not as good as Opus.

21:47 DaemonFC; Fedora never supported it properly.

21:47 DaemonFC; I think out of spite or something.

21:47 DaemonFC; Red Hat backed Xiph.

21:47 schestowitz_TR2; they hired monty

21:47 schestowitz_TR2; is he even still there?

21:47 DaemonFC; I don't think so.

21:47 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165635

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21:48 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines

21:48 DaemonFC; They paid him to work on Vorbis, which was basically wasted effort.

21:48 schestowitz_TR2; not really

21:48 schestowitz_TR2; I still use it

21:48 DaemonFC; Not only is Vorbis deprecated, but instead of quality tuning for stereo mode, which stopped in 2004 upstream, they did this crazy surround sound bullshit.

21:49 DaemonFC; In stereo mode, Xiph LibVorbis hasn't changed much since 2004.

21:49 DaemonFC; There was still "gold in them there hills" as far as what was possible in encoder tunings.

21:49 DaemonFC; But "monty" repeatedly refused to look into it, or even accept patches that achieved that.

21:50 DaemonFC; AoTuv isn't so much worse than Opus. It's comparable in quality to Apple AAC.

21:51 DaemonFC; I have a rough "transparency" estimate for each codec. They claim that Opus is about 40% more efficient than LAME MP3, but LAME hasn't changed much since those comparisons were made and Opus has.

21:52 DaemonFC; Read the change log between 1.1 and 1.3 and you see that.

21:54 TR News; Freenode down to 9 servers this past April https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode

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21:54 TR Bot; NO TITLE

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21:56 TR News; Libera.Chat total number of users online has been decreasing since February of this year https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=Libera.Chat

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21:56 TR Bot; NO TITLE

21:57 DaemonFC; Most of the tuning has been with bit allocation. Which is the majority of what went into AoTuv.

21:58 DaemonFC; Except that AoTuv doesn't behave as the documentation suggests it will and Opus is still more like an average bitrate.

21:58 DaemonFC; AoTuv doesn't really care if the average bitrate goes up significantly past where it should be.

21:58 DaemonFC; But LAME behaves that way too at the higher settings.

21:59 DaemonFC; Worse, in fact. Because of the scalefactor band 21 problem.

21:59 TR News; But there are still like a third of a million IRC users online (that are in networks known to Andreas), so it seems like what's actually happening is, users scatter to more and more networks. There are new ones all the time. https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant

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22:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Dropping floor0 from the Vorbis specification and decoder would de-bloat it a bit. Anything encoded with 1.0-rc2 would still work. It was retained due to compatibility with encoders that were never guaranteed to be compatible with the final specification anyway.

22:01 TR News; Netflix and Spotify won't survive the coming decade

22:01 DaemonFC; I don't like the approach to telling people what they do with beta software may not be supported and then crapping up the final product to retain support later anyway.

22:01 DaemonFC; Compatibility should only be a guarantee with something marked as a frozen specification.

22:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The Bose system makes FM radio sound pretty good.

22:02 DaemonFC; I can't believe they're talking about possible phaseout of FM.

22:03 TR News; Just to be clear and direct, Spotify is losing users https://www.barrons.com/articles/spotify-stock-plunges-after-earnings-dont-blame-joe-rogan-51643838028 and losing money https://www.statista.com/statistics/1022122/spotify-operating-income-quarterly/ basically, it's not a legit business; it's like Uber... riding at losses

↺ https://www.barrons.com/articles/spotify-stock-plunges-after-earnings-dont-blame-joe-rogan-51643838028

↺ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1022122/spotify-operating-income-quarterly/

22:03 DaemonFC; And they want to replace it with broken Microsoft shit that froze up and corrupted $500 radio computers in people's cars because a JPEG didn't finish coming through over NPR. LOL

22:03 TR Bot; Spotify Stock Plunges After Earnings. Don't Blame Joe Rogan. | Barron's

22:03 TR Bot; Spotify: quarterly operating income/loss worldwide 2022 | Statista

22:05 TR News; "In the first quarter of 2020, music streaming service Spotify was operating at a loss of 69 million euros." A year earlier it was 169 million in losses. And that's despite the ritual of cooking the books, Enron-style accounting has become the 'gold standard'...

22:06 TR News; This is around the year Gulag turned YouTube sour and evil, discriminating against channels to push what was seen as "profitable" https://www.fiercevideo.com/operators/youtube-tv-losing-60m-a-year-no-obvious-path-to-not-losing-money-analyst-says

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22:06 TR Bot; YouTube TV losing $60M a year with no obvious path to not losing money, analyst says | Fierce Video

22:09 TR News; Just having many users does not imply profits. Ask Gulag. https://www.wsj.com/articles/viewers-dont-add-up-to-profit-for-youtube-1424897967

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22:09 TR Bot; 1 Billion Viewers, No Profit - WSJ

22:12 TR News; 2022: "YouTube showed particularly weak results." Yes, forcing your "users" to watch endless ads kind of puts them off and repels human beings... https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/26/alphabet-to-report-q1-earnings-after-the-bell-tuesday.html

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22:12 TR Bot; Alphabet reports weak earnings and revenue on big YouTube miss

22:12 TR News; GAFAM: we're doing well because Uncle Joe pays us. I.e. we're sustained by the US taxpayers (read: NATIONAL DEBT) http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

22:12 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

22:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The funny part about these Bose Bluetooth Speakers is you have to buy two and pair them for stereo.

22:13 DaemonFC; Proper stereo.

22:13 TR News; 2009: "Technology consultants RampRate projects YouTube's operating losses this year at $174.2 million far below the $470.6 million estimated by Credit Suisse analysts Spencer Wang and Kenneth Sena in an April research report that became a hot topic on Wall Street and the Internet." https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7868311&page=1

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22:13 TR Bot; Guessing game: How much money is YouTube losing? - ABC News

22:14 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: sounds like shit

22:14 DaemonFC; Bose still advertises the Wave Radio as "MP3 CD compatible".

22:14 DaemonFC; Who uses this?

22:16 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR2> DaemonFC: sounds like shit

22:16 DaemonFC; Yeah, Bluetooth.

22:16 DaemonFC; I seriously doubt it supports LDAC.

22:16 TR News; USA: we have many billionaires. We also have 31 trillion in national debt. So money is taken from a vacuum and stuffed into some people's pockets.

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: why use BT

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; for sound?

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; the non-cord, cordless gimmick?

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; I had headphones ike these in the 90s

22:17 DaemonFC; With LDAC it wouldn't be too bad.

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; they used simpler radio

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; but needed battery

22:17 DaemonFC; Yes, I had a pair of FM headphones.

22:17 schestowitz_TR2; and also, having a 3-meter cord isn't too bad

22:17 DaemonFC; I bought them at Aldi.

22:17 DaemonFC; I could start playing things on my PC upstairs and hear it fine in the basement even.

22:17 DaemonFC; Bluetooth doesn't do that.

22:18 schestowitz_TR2; I did this in the garden

22:18 schestowitz_TR2; but reception was poor

22:18 DaemonFC; SBC is shit to begin with and you get dropouts if you're more than 20 feet and behind one wall or floor/ceiling.

22:18 schestowitz_TR2; you would be better off just tuning in to tuner

22:18 schestowitz_TR2; anyway, this is all 1990s mtech

22:18 schestowitz_TR2; remarketed as "BT"

22:18 schestowitz_TR2; and sold for very high prices with "boutique" brands and patents

22:19 schestowitz_TR2; you pay for the marketing and the patent departm,ent

22:19 DaemonFC; SBC is "digital" tho!!!!

22:19 DaemonFC; Really really horrible "digital".

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22:19 schestowitz_TR2; today I saw terriblke products

22:19 schestowitz_TR2; sonos and stuff

22:20 schestowitz_TR2; they sell you a single speaker on a stand for 100 pounds

22:20 schestowitz_TR2; and the other "sound" "rbands" are even worse

22:20 schestowitz_TR2; even samsung claims to be a household name... in sound

22:20 schestowitz_TR2; not sony

22:20 schestowitz_TR2; and some sound systems are like 1000 pounds

22:20 schestowitz_TR2; who pays this much for a residential thing?

22:21 schestowitz_TR2; they intentionally do not make/sell/stock low-end stuf

22:21 schestowitz_TR2; upselling as the minimal option

22:21 schestowitz_TR2; premium is the new "low end"

22:22 DaemonFC; "<schestowitz_TR2> they sell you a single speaker on a stand for 100 pounds"

22:22 DaemonFC; LOL

22:22 TR News; "The 777 patent relates to using a wireless device to locate a remote wireless device and has been asserted against Samsung and Apple." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/27/speir-technologies-patent-challenged

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22:22 TR Bot; Speir Technologies patent challenged Unified Patents

22:23 DaemonFC; You can use anything you want to with your Bose radio.

22:23 DaemonFC; You can hook up tape players, your laptop, a turntable.

22:23 TR News; Software Patents again: "The '777 patent relates to using feedback based on a user's indication of frustration with a device and has been asserted against Nuu Mobile, Atlassian, Snapchat, Instagram, and Sony." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/31/ip-edge-entity-savannah-licensing-patent-challenged

↺ https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/31/ip-edge-entity-savannah-licensing-patent-challenged

22:23 DaemonFC; An MP3 player.

22:23 TR Bot; IP Edge entity, Savannah Licensing, patent challenged Unified Patents

22:23 DaemonFC; Fuck bluetooth.

22:24 TR News; Software patents squashed at EPO https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/6/3/gevc-ep416-and-ep179-successfully-challenged-at-the-epo

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22:24 TR Bot; GEVC EP'416 and EP'179 successfully challenged at the EPO Unified Patents

22:25 TR News; When properly challenged, software patents perish at the EPO https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/6/3/another-former-velos-ep-patent-successfully-challenged-at-the-epo

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22:25 TR Bot; Another former Velos EP patent successfully challenged at the EPO Unified Patents

22:25 DaemonFC; I'm not paying $100 more for some bulky adapter that gives me really bad "wireless".

22:25 TR News; Microsoft-connected patent troll https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/27/acacia-entity-monarch-networking-solutions-patent-held-invalid see http://techrights.org/wiki/Acacia

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http://techrights.org/wiki/Acacia

22:25 TR Bot; Acacia entity, Monarch Networking Solutions, patent held invalid Unified Patents

22:25 TR Bot; Acacia - Techrights

22:25 DaemonFC; Getting sound to the speaker is a "problem" that was solved in the 1960s.

22:26 DaemonFC; Everything they did since then only made it worse.

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; exactly!

22:26 DaemonFC; Worse or impossible.

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; remember the big, thick headphone jacks?

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; and the adapters for these?

22:26 DaemonFC; Yes, the 5/8ths I believe.

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; afaik, some headphones still come with them

22:26 DaemonFC; I have an adapter for my headphones.

22:26 schestowitz_TR2; the adapter

22:26 DaemonFC; It turns the 1/8th into a 5/8ths.

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; it's like sd and microsd

22:27 DaemonFC; Yes, there's nothing wrong with the 1/8" (3.5 mm).

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; the bigger ones might be more robust

22:27 DaemonFC; Sounds terrific.

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; but I did not test

22:27 DaemonFC; EM shielding a cable is cheap and easy.

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; you can get high fiudelity ones

22:27 DaemonFC; You can do it with tinfoil and then cover that with the sheath.

22:27 schestowitz_TR2; I think I still have one

22:27 DaemonFC; The cable costs $9 for a 20 footer.

22:28 schestowitz_TR2; hmm... I wonder where my cable is..

22:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Someone I knew was complaining about static and needing a new cable.

22:28 DaemonFC; I said "No you don't.".

22:28 schestowitz_TR2; right now I use 15-pound headphones

22:28 DaemonFC; Took a foil chewing gum wrapper, moved it around until no more static. Said, "You kinked the EM shield." and taped the foil in place.

22:28 schestowitz_TR2; with hdmi and all the modern stuff it would not work

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; the scrambled signals

22:29 DaemonFC; HDMI is huge and there are several incompatible versions.

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; even vga gives you comparablke quality

22:29 DaemonFC; It's a fucking joke.

22:29 DaemonFC; You break the cable and it doesn't work at all. Doesn't take much.

22:29 DaemonFC; The ports are easy to break too.

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; yeah

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; my experience also

22:29 DaemonFC; Mostly for DRM.

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; we bought many cables like these

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; some barely last months

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; if you jerk them a lot

22:29 schestowitz_TR2; like on a movin g laptop

22:30 schestowitz_TR2; yes, it's a DRM carrier

22:30 schestowitz_TR2; same with all that stuff that replaces headphone jacks

22:30 DaemonFC; I strongly prefered DVI-D and a 3.5 mm cable.

22:30 DaemonFC; I have no use for DRM and don't use it.

22:30 DaemonFC; There was also a standard for analog audio over a DVI-D cable.

22:30 schestowitz_TR2; many monitors support neither dvi or vga

22:30 MinceR; DRM (HDCP) is possible on DVI-D, sadly

22:31 schestowitz_TR2; some support all 3 types

22:31 schestowitz_TR2; but can be expensive

22:31 DaemonFC; So it's not even like you needed HDMI for a unified cable.

22:31 MinceR; my first LCD monitor proudly advertised that it supports HDCP :(

22:31 MinceR; (and it had only VGA and DVI-D inputs, iirc)

22:31 DaemonFC; Oh, then you have to worry about if it's HDMI 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 2.0, 2.2, etc.

22:32 DaemonFC; And if it's not DRM'd enough, your shit won't work because Hollywood.

22:32 DaemonFC; Fuck them

22:32 schestowitz_TR2; the cables can be very sensitive and get 'confused'

22:32 schestowitz_TR2; I still get trouble with these

22:32 schestowitz_TR2; like after booting it would not "pick up"

22:32 MinceR; DVI-D cables probably have the same issues regarding bandwidth and versions

22:33 DaemonFC; Oh yes, that reminds me. When I connected my Windows 8.1 over Nvidia's HDCP compliant port to my HDCP compliant TV, Amazon told me I needed to ditch Firefox and come back in Internet Explorer.

22:33 MinceR; and DP cables are a pain to work with because of the little hooks

22:33 schestowitz_TR2; maybe activelow left because irc was too much drm for him

22:33 DaemonFC; So I laughed and did, then it said that the HDCP versions mismatched and it wouldn't play in HD.

22:33 schestowitz_TR2; and it rendered fonts

22:33 DaemonFC; Great stuff.

22:33 schestowitz_TR2; DRM is a mess for many reasons

22:33 DaemonFC; Just buy new TVs and video cards and cables all the time because money is available and takes no work to get, right?

22:33 schestowitz_TR2; it's not fault-tolerant

22:33 schestowitz_TR2; and not designed to be

22:34 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: maybe 20 years ago

22:34 DaemonFC; I already had to chuck a Blu Ray player that worked when I started coming up on newer discs that took 4 minutes to load.

22:34 DaemonFC; Then ones that didn't work at all.

22:35 DaemonFC; Then I eventually gave up on "owning" Blu Rays and used the player to borrow them from the library so at least I wasn't out more money later.

22:36 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-30-22-3.jpg

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22:36 DaemonFC; I'm playing Elton John's "Diamonds" compilation (3 CDs) on the Bose right now.

22:36 DaemonFC; I converted them all to 128k Opus and put them on the SD card plugged into my laptop.

22:37 DaemonFC; I'm not even using the entire SD card and I have a lot of music on it.

22:37 TR News; MUST WATCH THIS ONE ~ FIVE YEAR OLD BOY PLAYS JUMPING JACKS WITH A BEAR http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2022/06/03/must-watch-this-one-five-year-old-boy-plays-jumping-jacks-with-a-bear/

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22:37 TR Bot; Harvey Tobkes Blog Archive MUST WATCH THIS ONE ~ FIVE YEAR OLD BOY PLAYS JUMPING JACKS WITH A BEAR

22:37 DaemonFC; I don't know why people are buying vinyl again.

22:37 DaemonFC; Even a well constructed compact cassette tape sounds better than vinyl.

22:37 DaemonFC; There's no constant irritating popping and hissing.

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: they sold a playyer of it today

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; that I saw

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; maybe 2 types

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; but no decent speakers

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; only premium garbage

22:38 DaemonFC; I've always used CDs more as source material for something else.

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; with one piece or at most 3

22:38 DaemonFC; I used to buy premium compact cassettes to get good transfers from CDs I borrowed from my aunt and friends at school.

22:38 schestowitz_TR2; a lot can go wrong with cassette tape

22:38 DaemonFC; I used the cassettes, not CDs.

22:39 schestowitz_TR2; and with CD also

22:39 schestowitz_TR2; the vinyl is KISS

22:39 MinceR; DaemonFC: they love the popping and hissing

22:39 schestowitz_TR2; go up and down

22:39 DaemonFC; The vinyl sounds okay at first.

22:39 MinceR; generally, humans seem to love crap

22:39 schestowitz_TR2; damage means just a little jitter or sound distortion

22:39 DaemonFC; Then it gets worse.

22:39 MinceR; they make up bullshit terms for it too, like "warm"

22:39 DaemonFC; The needle grinds them down the more you play it, and eventually grinds in dirt and crap so you can't get it out.

22:40 DaemonFC; And then you have less and less accurate playback every time you use it no matter how careful you are. They're dust magnets, which only makes the problem worse.

22:40 schestowitz_TR2; so the quality degrades

22:40 schestowitz_TR2; but it still plays

22:40 schestowitz_TR2; even 50 years later

22:40 schestowitz_TR2; tapes you might need to literally tape

22:40 DaemonFC; Opus files don't degrade.

22:40 schestowitz_TR2; when they rip apart, fold...

22:40 DaemonFC; They're easy to back up because they're small.

22:40 MinceR; FLAC files don't degrade and don't have to be pre-degraded, even :>

22:41 DaemonFC; You'll know if it's corrupt and needs restored from backup because of CRC.

22:42 DaemonFC; Compact Cassettes don't get "eaten" by the player much unless you let the head get really dirty.

22:42 DaemonFC; About every 100-150 plays you run a special tape with a cleaner solvent through it. Just a drop of cleaner on the sponge and then play the tape until it says to stop and eject it.

22:42 DaemonFC; You're good to go again.

22:43 DaemonFC; VCRs are the same really.

22:43 DaemonFC; Those had cleaner tapes too.

22:43 schestowitz_TR2; some people digitised themw

22:43 schestowitz_TR2; with divx

22:43 schestowitz_TR2; and other formats that will grow obsolete

22:43 DaemonFC; *cringe*

22:43 schestowitz_TR2; or have checksum errors

22:43 MinceR; lol

22:43 schestowitz_TR2; and won't be possible to format-shift at all

22:43 schestowitz_TR2; due to compression

22:44 DaemonFC; Even Microsoft was right abotu MPEG-4 ASP (divx).

22:44 DaemonFC; It was a disappointment that didn't turn out to be much better than MPEG-2.

22:44 DaemonFC; Stuffed full of more patents. No quality improvement.

22:44 DaemonFC; "Oh this is terrific!"

22:46 DaemonFC; h264 is generally "good enough".

22:46 DaemonFC; It's like, at some point the easy improvements have been made and now it's just a compute cycle monster with MOAR PATENTS.

22:55 schestowitz_TR2; SOFTWARE patents

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23:27 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/4/7350538/

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23:27 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/4/7350538/ )

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23:27 XRevan86; Russian Ministry of War has a response that should put Ukraine to shame: https://t.me/mod_russia/16462

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23:27 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://t.me/mod_russia/16462 )

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23:28 XRevan86; tl;dr: the Ukrainian army burnt the church when retreating, and the Russian army is not conducting any military operations in the region.

23:28 XRevan86; Solid logic, I like it.

23:29 schestowitz_TR2; to prevent the russian troops from seeing jesus

23:30 XRevan86; I am curious what the Ukrainian troops were retreating from per the Russian Ministry's chronology.

23:33 XRevan86; schestowitz: Or maybe they were retreating away from Jesus.

23:34 MinceR; Zombie Jesus

23:35 DaemonFC; There we go. I got my 3.5 mm jack splitter.

23:35 DaemonFC; $3.

23:35 DaemonFC; Now I have my TV and my computer plugged into the same port.

23:35 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Just for outputs?

23:35 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I got 50 of them for $3 a while ago.

23:35 XRevan86; Don't know what to do with them.

23:35 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: you can get one for under a pound

23:36 schestowitz_TR2; maybe you paid for home dlivery

23:36 DaemonFC; It was a Belkin. Got it on Amazon.

23:36 XRevan86; I actually wanted an in/out splitter, which I later purchased for a bigger price, and a single piece.

23:36 schestowitz_TR2; I have a splitter on now

23:36 DaemonFC; I replaced the Vizio soundbar with the Bose to save space and get better sound from the TV.

23:36 schestowitz_TR2; lbut it's only connected to the headset

23:37 XRevan86; Which I also no longer use because later I got myself a digital microphone.

23:37 schestowitz_TR2; I had one 21 years ago when I wanred to hook up the computer to two amplification systems at once

23:37 DaemonFC; They advertise it as a headphone splitter, but you can reverse it as well and turn one Aux In port into two.

23:37 XRevan86; DaemonFC: There are combined jacks.

23:37 XRevan86; Sure, that can work as both an in/in splitter and an out/out splitter.

23:38 DaemonFC; This is the most versatile and compatible port for audio and all the electronics companies are getting rid of it.

23:38 DaemonFC; Making you buy USB-C dongles to keep using it.

23:38 DaemonFC; This is absolutely stupid.

23:39 XRevan86; DaemonFC: They're actually pushing for Bluetooth, not USB Type-C.

23:39 XRevan86; Apple's dream is a completely portless device.

23:40 schestowitz_TR2; whata dumb dream

23:40 schestowitz_TR2; like a limbless person

23:40 schestowitz_TR2; called snake

23:40 schestowitz_TR2; cords are not evil

23:40 schestowitz_TR2; they can also be good for the environment, fewer batteries

23:41 XRevan86; And because a cord is always more efficient than wireless charging.

23:42 TR News; Wayland is a nightmare. Avoid this unnecessary "novelty". https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FnNpwVUwPag

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23:42 TR Bot; Discord Is A Nightmare On Wayland Linux - Invidious

23:42 TR News; Tails 5.1 Anonymous OS Improves the Tor Connection Assistant, Updates to Tor 0.4.7.7 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165636

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23:42 TR Bot; Tails 5.1 Anonymous OS Improves the Tor Connection Assistant, Updates to Tor 0.4.7.7 | Tux Machines

23:45 MinceR; > Apple's dream is a completely pointless device.

23:45 MinceR; oh wait, they've had those for decades.

23:45 XRevan86; MinceR: I disagree, it's not a dream, it's a reality.

23:46 XRevan86; MinceR: Ye realised your mistake just in time.

23:48 DaemonFC; Cables have better audio than Bluetooth, unless you're using a Sony receiver that's been made recently, and the transmitter supports LDAC as well.

23:48 DaemonFC; LDAC scales. Under decent connections, you'll have pretty good audio quality out of it.

23:49 DaemonFC; SBC @ 384k is like, oh, MP3 @ 128k. It's not a good way to stream, especially since what you're streaming is probably already lossy encoded anyway.

23:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I likened using SBC and Bluetooth to converting a WMA file to MP3 because Microsoft had another music store fail and it was the only way to keep your music (with the intermediate step being burn a CD you don't even want and kill the planet).

23:50 DaemonFC; But it's generational loss.

23:50 DaemonFC; It's like encoding a JPEG to a really low quality second JPEG.

23:50 DaemonFC; You can do it. It won't look good.

23:51 DaemonFC; No encoder is really designed with the assumption that it's already working with at least 1 generation of loss.

23:51 XRevan86; DaemonFC: SBC-XQ exists though.

23:51 XRevan86; So it's not a codec problem, it's just capped by manufacturers for complicated reasons.

23:52 XRevan86; My Bluetooth headset can do AAC, and the latency is not too bad (like half a second), so good enough.

23:58 XRevan86; Unfortunately it falls apart at SBC-XQ and standard low-bitpool SBC is noticeably worse than AAC.

23:59 XRevan86; But it's all on the per-device basis.

23:59 TR News; "This live has not started yet." Weird. https://video.chalec.org/w/5Y338qZDJvBakEDmoY4jDe

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