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00:00 TR News; MIT: we pushed out the person who called our pedophile sponsor "serial rapist"
00:00 MinceR; not only are they poorly designed and poorly made, they also have a massive IT backdoor
00:00 matey; because if its a nissan leaf the other cars will beat it up and call it names
00:00 TR News; "We are happy to announce the release of Qt Design Studio 3.5." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-design-studio-3.5-released
00:00 TR Bot; Qt Design Studio 3.5 Released
00:01 matey; not only are they poorly designed and poorly made, they also have a massive IT backdoor <- i mean all tech has pros and cons
00:01 matey; like systemd
00:01 matey; on the one hand, it destroyed gnu/linux and revealed the fsf to be... done, basically
00:01 matey; but then again, its marvelous for promoting bsd
00:01 TR News; ABCs of FreeDOS: 26 commands I use all the time | https://opensource.com/article/22/6/26-freedos-commands Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
00:01 TR Bot; of FreeDOS: 26 commands I use all the time | Opensource.com
00:02 DaemonFC; Schestowitz-3, The software that drives your car around, and occasionally slams into a parked cop car or runs over some woman because it thinks she's a shopping bag flying across the road.
00:02 MinceR; so why not something like a Toyota bZ4X?
00:02 matey; apart from never having heard of it you mean
00:02 matey; (not kidding)
00:02 TR News; Proprietary and likely spyware, now or in the future. https://medevel.com/vivaldi/
00:02 TR Bot; Vivaldi Browser gets a built-in a Mail client, Calendar and a Newsreader
00:02 DaemonFC; Matt Gulag should enjoy those paychecks while they last. If 200 people at Tesla couldn't make it work right, I doubt anyone else can.
00:02 matey; the joke requires a self-driving car
00:03 Schestowitz-3; DaemonFC: they didn't write the "logic" for "flying trash bag"
00:03 matey; i only know the tesla and the one garrett works on
00:03 matey; and between those i suppose i would get a tesla
00:03 matey; not for any technical reasons
00:03 DaemonFC; I wouldn't.
00:03 Schestowitz-3; like I said, it is a dead end
00:03 Schestowitz-3; based on personal experience
00:03 DaemonFC; I have enough fun out of the Buick.
00:03 Schestowitz-3; as a postdoc
00:04 DaemonFC; I had to jerry rig a fucking airbag sensor today.
00:04 matey; to be fair
00:04 Schestowitz-3; it can work
00:04 Schestowitz-3; but only in controlled environments
00:04 Schestowitz-3; like a warehouse
00:04 matey; the entire scientific community said the same about heavier-than-air flight
00:04 Schestowitz-3; amazon already does this
00:04 DaemonFC; Can you imagine what I'd run into with a Tesla? People complain the paint peels off them in the first 90 days of owning a BRAND NEW CAR.
00:04 DaemonFC; That's unacceptable.
00:04 matey; im not a huge fan of the technology at all
00:04 matey; but that doesnt mean its not feasible
00:04 DaemonFC; You have a 15 year old car with slight rust or a few paint problems, you live with it.
00:05 Schestowitz-3; even the warehouse one will go nuts when bad things happen
00:05 DaemonFC; But a brand new car where the paint starts peeling off the hood or the doors in 90 days?
00:05 Schestowitz-3; like shleves falling or bombs falling in the warehouse
00:05 Schestowitz-3; ask ukraine
00:05 DaemonFC; And you just paid over $100 grand for it?
00:05 Schestowitz-3; and then what?
00:05 Schestowitz-3; do nothing?
00:05 DaemonFC; Give me a fucking break.
00:05 Schestowitz-3; shut down?
00:05 matey; non-working prototypes really dont prove that bugs will never be worked out
00:06 Schestowitz-3; DaemonFC: they hire fake security pros
00:06 matey; they do show where the most obvious problems are
00:06 Schestowitz-3; for fear these cars will be taken over remotely
00:06 Schestowitz-3; so they hire people with no computer science education
00:06 matey; i mean non-self-driving cars have that problem
00:06 DaemonFC; Why doesn't an airbag sensor fail safe?
00:06 Schestowitz-3; whose skills is successfully faking being a "Security" pro
00:06 Schestowitz-3; that's likie me pretending to be a physician
00:06 DaemonFC; If it fails, it should assume that there is always a passenger over 100 pounds in the seat.
00:06 Schestowitz-3; because I'm a doictor
00:06 matey; dont get me started
00:07 Schestowitz-3; and saying,, "don't worry"
00:07 DaemonFC; Because that's the safe assumption 95% of the time.
00:07 Schestowitz-3; "I have experience"
00:07 Schestowitz-3; "I can do it"
00:07 Schestowitz-3; "I saw how it's done"
00:07 Schestowitz-3; "I diagnosed my wife"
00:08 matey; if people can debunk his understanding of computer science or security i encourage them to do so
00:08 matey; i mean, there ARE examples where he prefers...
00:08 DaemonFC; Schestowitz-3, I know I shouldn't, but we've been making fun of this homeless guy who chased us down over at the gas station the other day.
00:08 matey; models of security that impress roughly none of us, including me
00:08 matey; "move all authority upstream and pretend we didnt"
00:08 DaemonFC; He was like "HEY HEY HEY!" in this really gruff voice...."HEY HEY HEY GUY IN THE BLUE SHIRT HEY HEY HEY!".
00:09 matey; "technically microsoft doesnt control this if you recompile the firmware"
00:09 matey; ^ this is hyperbole
00:09 DaemonFC; Mandy sometimes goes "HEY HEY HEY!" And I start singing that song, "I'm just a love machine!".
00:09 MinceR; 30 010259 < matey> the joke requires a self-driving car
00:09 MinceR; those don't exist yet
00:09 matey; jokes often cut corners on realism
00:10 matey; mine involved a tesla shopping at tesco
00:10 TR News; Beyond Lithium-Ion: The Many Use Cases for the Rechargeable Battery https://tedium.co/2022/06/29/rechargeable-battery-history/ Source: tedium
00:10 TR Bot; Beyond Lithium-Ion: The Many Use Cases for the Rechargeable Battery
00:10 MinceR; and either there will be self-driving-car-only road networks with some sort of coordinating between the cars, or we need human-level general AI in self-driving cars
00:10 MinceR; so they'll understand written signs and context correctly
00:10 MinceR; otherwise it's just asking for trouble
00:10 matey; is it fair to ask them to do more than real drivers
00:11 TR News; Ecuadors Attempt to Resettle Edward Snowden - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/ecuadors-attempt-to-resettle-edward-snowden.html Source: schneier https://www.dailydot.com/debug/exclusive-hacked-documents-ecuadors-edward-snowden/
00:11 TR Bot; Attempt to Resettle Edward Snowden - Schneier on Security
00:11 TR Bot; Ecuadorian Embassy Hack In Russia Details Discussions On Snowden
00:11 MinceR; the "have a human monitor it in real time and intervene in real time if it fucks up" paradigm doesn't work and never will work
00:11 matey; "yellow light detected, spooling turbo..."
00:11 MinceR; it just makes things more dangerous
00:12 DaemonFC; "or we need human-level general AI in self-driving cars"
00:12 matey; im not sure it isnt all a fucking horrible idea
00:12 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOtzN0u6jv4
00:12 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=sOtzN0u6jv4
00:12 MinceR; unless maybe we can make humans react really, really, really fast and never get tired of watching a machine drive, waiting for it to make a mistake
00:12 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=sOtzN0u6jv4 )
00:12 matey; im only unconvinced it is beyond a shadow of a doubt
00:12 MinceR; bots are very useful in fetching the title as usual
00:12 matey; actually they fail at that all the time
00:12 MinceR; indeed
00:12 matey; if self-driving cares cant do better than roys rss reader, we really are fucked
00:13 matey; and if they run systemd they should be impounded
00:13 TR News; A Rust-in-GCC update https://lwn.net/Articles/899385/ putting parts of GCC in Microsoft's proprietary GitHub is part of the attack on GNU
00:13 TR Bot; Rust-in-GCC update [LWN.net]
00:13 MinceR; if they run code from ibm, MICROS~1 or crApple or code of that quality level, they're death traps on wheels
00:14 matey; youre on the freeway and your car decides it cant postpone updates any longer
00:14 matey; or you sit for 30 minutes in the middle of the autobahn trying to connect to the internet
00:15 matey; microsoft provides free towing to mvps
00:15 matey; to tow an apple car you need a dongle
00:15 TR News; WebExtension Support in Epiphany Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166650
00:15 TR Bot; WebExtension Support in Epiphany | Tux Machines
00:16 MinceR; i doubt you even can tow a crApple car
00:16 MinceR; maybe they'll allow you put it on a trailer though
00:16 MinceR; if you can make a place to connect its winch to
00:17 MinceR; MICROS~1 officially supports towing, but their implementation doesn't actually work
00:18 matey; trying to steer with a jogwheel is a bitch though
00:18 matey; keep your fingertips at 2 and 10 o clock
00:18 matey; and make sure you hold it correctly
00:18 MinceR; dehomag managed to have some volunteer design a recovery point into their vehicle, and it sort of works for a while, but they proudly announced that the next version of their car won't have one anymore
00:18 DaemonFC; "That attendant had it rough. He was robbed, witnessed a kidnapping, and judging by how remote the gas station is, he survived the nuclear apocalypse and experienced the rise of the machines."
00:18 MinceR; making it more in line with crApple and MICROS~1 and thus more "modern"
00:18 TR News; LLVM 15.0.0 Release Schedule https://discourse.llvm.org/t/llvm-15-0-0-release-schedule/63495/3
00:18 TR Bot; LLVM 15.0.0 Release Schedule - #3 by brooks - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums
00:19 DaemonFC; " All in one shift XD"
00:19 DaemonFC; Never thought about that.
00:19 TR News; Collabora Online Developer Edition (CODE) 22.05 and LibreOffice News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166651
00:19 TR Bot; Collabora Online Developer Edition (CODE) 22.05 and LibreOffice News | Tux Machines
00:19 matey; i got one of the prototype dehomag cars
00:19 matey; it still had a the skull and lightning bolts
00:19 MinceR; the earlier prototype it is, the more of it actually works
00:20 matey; even lambos are made by dehomag now
00:20 TR News; Red Hat: we've become all about CLOWN.... i.e. nothing meaningful https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-shares-get-started-cloud-services
00:20 TR Bot; Red Hat Shares Get started with cloud services
00:20 matey; or at least volkswagon
00:21 matey; they still look good (ive seen one up close) but an italian sports car made by a german company?
00:21 TR News; Red Hat original: engineers and geeks. Under IBM: marketing company.
00:21 matey; doesnt everyone think thats a bit weird
00:22 matey; i mean if i were german id rather watch rocky with subtitles than dubbing
00:22 TR News; User Liberation https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/user-liberation/
00:22 TR Bot; User Liberation GNU MediaGoblin
00:22 TR News; The University of Costumed Heroes http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-university-of-costumed-heroes/
00:22 TR Bot; The University of Costumed Heroes GNU MediaGoblin
00:22 TR News; ShoeTool http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/shoetool/
00:22 TR Bot; ShoeTool GNU MediaGoblin
00:22 matey; dubbing ruins a film
00:22 TR News; Escape to Freedom http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/escape-to-freedom/
00:22 TR Bot; Escape to Freedom GNU MediaGoblin
00:23 TR News; Fight to Repair http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/fight-to-repair/
00:23 TR Bot; Fight to Repair GNU MediaGoblin
00:23 matey; unless its a kung fu movie, then you NEED that
00:23 TR News; Rewind http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/rewind/
00:23 TR Bot; Rewind GNU MediaGoblin
00:23 XRevan86; https://t.me/supertima/454 So I saw this pro-Kremlin post which tried to use lossy video compression as proof that the first Kh-22 missile in Kremenchuh hit much closer to the factory than to the mall.
00:23 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @supertima
00:23 XRevan86; Because of that I opened Google Maps again and made this: https://i.ibb.co/RY3Z7kc/image.jpg
00:23 TR News; xkcd: Periodic Table Changes https://xkcd.com/2639/ Source: xkcd
00:23 TR Bot; Periodic Table Changes
00:24 MinceR; looking good is the only thing lambos were ever good for
00:24 XRevan86; Just from perspective it should be obvious that the missile hit farther from the camera than the yellow part of the mall building.
00:24 matey; but presumably italians make Real sports cars too...
00:24 matey; or maybe they dont
00:25 MinceR; i don't care, i wouldn't want a german car, i wouldn't want an italian car and i wouldn't want a german/italian car either
00:25 matey; i dont actually want a car
00:25 MinceR; what's a "Real sports car"?
00:25 matey; i was hoping youd know
00:25 MinceR; lol
00:25 MinceR; well, it's probably something like a Mazda MX-5 or a Toyota GR86
00:25 MinceR; built to be fun to drive, not to break acceleration records
00:25 TR News; FLOSS Weekly 687: Open Source Roundtable - Discussing Open Source Security Holes https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/687 is FLOSS Weekly done shilling for criminals from Microsoft and Gates & Lolita Foundation?
00:25 TR Bot; Open Source Roundtable
00:25 matey; so a real italian sports car would be... japanese
00:26 MinceR; lol
00:26 matey; hey i dont make the rules, im just reading them
00:26 MinceR; a real italian sports car is a contradiction in terms
00:26 MinceR; a broken-down rolling sculpture can't be fun to drive
00:26 matey; i knew you knew
00:26 matey; but i didnt have any details to work with
00:26 MinceR; it's not fun to sit in a cramped space and remain still
00:27 matey; a broken-down rolling sculpture can't be fun to drive <- i dunno, theyre pretty cool to climb into and out of
00:27 TR News; Reminder that Torvalds is not REALLY in control of Linux https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b1lIU8Hp6XU
00:27 TR Bot; Rust Coming Soon To A Linux Kernel Near You!! - Invidious
00:27 MinceR; it's not even fun to have a trailer move it around while you sit in it
00:27 matey; there arent enough cars that are like spaceships on the inside
00:27 TR News; "GNU/Linux distributions need bootloaders during installation. These bootloaders are responsible for loading system files that run when you install any GNU/Linux distro. If you are developing any GNU/Linux distribution, you may need to work with bootloaders so users can install it on their systems." https://www.makeuseof.com/types-of-syslinux-bootloaders/
00:27 TR Bot; Understanding the Different Types of Syslinux Bootloaders
00:28 matey; im not saying its practical. there are different kinds of fun
00:28 matey; most people dont drive OUTSIDE the car though
00:28 matey; thats where they put most of the sexy looks
00:28 matey; you get in and its... okay
00:29 matey; the exteriors get cool looking a lot faster than the interiors imo
00:30 matey; but if this is frivolous (And it is) remember
00:30 matey; im not actually in the market for a car
00:30 matey; so its a bit like fantasy baseball
00:31 TR News; "Murphy regarding a particular form of communication between egos: if one tells another something the latter needs to know to not screw up, the latter becomes indignant for the seeming implication they're an idiot" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1048
00:31 matey; its not like you can just hire those players
00:31 matey; even if you had the money, they have contracts
00:31 TR News; eXaDrums is an open source, low-latency electronic drum system | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/29/exadrums-is-an-open-source-low-latency-electronic-drum-system/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
00:31 TR Bot; eXaDrums is an open source, low-latency electronic drum system | Arduino Blog
00:31 matey; and the team owners would kill you
00:32 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166652
00:32 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:32 matey; a lot of houses are the opposite
00:32 matey; boring af on the outside, then you go in and its like-- wow
00:33 MinceR; i've seen many good looking interiors
00:34 MinceR; i particularly like it when USians decide to make the interior of a pickup really nice and practical
00:34 matey; it almost has to be
00:34 matey; nothing about the rest of the truck is, for 90% of the people who own them
00:34 MinceR; :>
00:34 matey; i never bitch about contractors driving big trucks if they need one
00:34 MinceR; well, i'd hope the bed is practical too
00:34 MinceR; what's the point of a pickup truck if it isn't?
00:35 matey; gettin girls with painted on jeans and takin that old dirt road to the lake and drinkin some of that good stuff?
00:36 matey; /me has moved so many thousands of miles away from where country music emanates from but its fucking everywhere
00:36 TR News; Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166654
00:36 TR Bot; Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft | Tux Machines
00:36 TR News; Modding With Arduino: eXaDrums, Voltage Meter, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166653
00:36 TR Bot; Modding With Arduino: eXaDrums, Voltage Meter, and More | Tux Machines
00:39 matey; Countrymusic24 Listen Live - Berlin, Germany | Online Radio Box
00:40 matey; In Tokyo, Japan, Country Music Finds an Audience - AFAR
00:40 MinceR; lol
00:40 MinceR; pretty sure girls can just ride in regular seats
00:40 DaemonFC; Schestowitz-3, The Vivaldi Mail client is pretty nice actually.
00:41 matey; WTF
00:41 matey; The Congo Cowboys - www.congocowboys.com Africa
00:41 matey; www.congocowboys.com
00:41 matey; The Congo Cowboys: music that draws on the foot stompin qualities of bluegrass country, reimagined through Kwassa Kwassa African rhythms
00:41 matey; seriously?!
00:41 MinceR; ah, the rhythms of kvass
00:41 matey; /me is going to need something harder than kvass
00:41 MinceR; :>
00:41 MinceR; hardbass?
00:42 matey; i was thinking vodka
00:42 matey; "we play both kinds-- country, AND western!"
00:43 MinceR; lol
00:44 matey; "our musical director is stan byermann"
00:45 matey; "our legal team is from the law offices of dewey, cheatham and howe" (now sfc)
00:45 MinceR; :>
00:55 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-tracking-office-attendance-badge-use-warns-employees-elon-musk-2022-6
00:55 TR Bot; Tesla Tracks Employees Who Haven't 'Badged in' to Office: Email
00:55 DaemonFC; I replied:
00:55 DaemonFC; "Well they won't have to worry too long since he's firing about 500 people every day now."
00:57 MinceR; :>
00:58 TR News; F37 Change Proposal: Unfiltered Flathub (System-Wide Change) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/X7XDXRLJIXLB6PYJBY4QWNCRBILU2NYY/
00:58 TR Bot; F37 Change Proposal: Unfiltered Flathub (System-Wide Change) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 TR News; Hello World for Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) https://developers.redhat.com/crw-hw
00:59 TR Bot; Hello World for Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) | Red Hat Developer
01:00 TR News; Sharing your Container Development Environment with Red Hat Openshift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/crw-fmi "Resources to help you make the most of Red Hat Openshift Dev Spaces."
01:00 TR Bot; Sharing your Container Development Environment with Red Hat Openshift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) | Red Hat Developer
01:01 TR News; Data@Mozilla: This Week in Glean: Reviewing a Book Rust in Action https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2022/06/29/this-week-in-glean-reviewing-a-book-rust-in-action/
01:01 TR Bot; This Week in Glean: Reviewing a Book Rust in Action Data@Mozilla
01:02 TR News; Glean = Mozilla spyware
01:03 TR News; Git internals and SHA-1 https://retout.co.uk/2022/06/29/git-internals-and-sha1/ Source: retout (Tim Retout)
01:03 TR Bot; Git internals and SHA-1 Tim Retout
01:04 TR News; Clown computing = you own nothing, you're a slave of large companies that work for the US military https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/29/greenlake-finally-a-platform-that-hpe-utterly-controls/
01:04 TR Bot; GreenLake: Finally, A Platform That HPE Utterly Controls
01:05 TR News; Subscription model is promoted by those who promote perpetual rental: people who own all the homes inspire those trying to control all the data and all the computers. Don't fall for it.
01:07 TR News; Smart Match in CPAN http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/06/smart-match-in-cpan.html
01:07 TR Bot; Match in CPAN | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
01:08 TR News; Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166654
01:08 TR Bot; Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft | Tux Machines
01:09 XRevan86; https://t.me/supertima/453 here he shows the camera angle he picked. That's just wrong, very obviously wrong. But sure enough, big Z-channels picked it up: https://t.me/warfakes/4343
01:09 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @supertima
01:09 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @warfakes
01:10 XRevan86; matey: Imagine the level of bullshitting if even I can figure out they're wrong without any investigative background.
01:12 TR News; Lilbits: Nothing Phone (1) has a mid-range processor, Samsung developing a cheap(er) foldable https://liliputing.com/2022/06/lilbits-nothing-phone-1-has-a-mid-range-processor-samsung-developing-a-cheaper-foldable.html
01:12 TR Bot; Nothing Phone (1) has a mid-range processor, Samsung developing a cheap(er) foldable - Liliputing
01:12 XRevan86; And "War with Fakes" even used the satellite images that clearly show that the back wall of the mall is gone. And they say it didn't fall apart. I don't get that.
01:13 TR News; Phoronix: we post marketing for AMD. wccftech: We post marketing for Phoronix marketing of AMD https://wccftech.com/linux-gamers-should-stick-with-mesas-radv-drivers-for-rdna-2-gpus-as-it-outperforms-amds-official-amdvlk-vulkan-driver/
01:13 TR Bot; Linux Gamers Should Stick With Mesa's RADV Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs As It Outperforms AMD's Official AMDVLK Vulkan Driver
01:14 TR News; "Using the Windows Subsystem for Linux" -- no! this is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux. There's no reason to promote this attack. Even a VM is better. https://www.xda-developers.com/does-dell-xps-13-2022-run-linux/
01:14 TR Bot; Does the Dell XPS 13 (2022) run Linux? Can you install it?
01:15 XRevan86; It did take me a bit to find the exact spot of the camera, so their idiotic audience will probably buy their arguments.
01:15 TR News; Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166655
01:15 TR Bot; Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:15 TR News; Summer [GNOME] Maps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166656
01:15 TR Bot; Summer [GNOME] Maps | Tux Machines
01:17 TR News; Putting in the title "open source GitHub" is misleading; Github is an attack on open source and it is proprietary https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/29/toxic_interaction_github_open_source/
01:17 TR Bot; 'Toxic' open source GitHub discussions analyzed in study The Register
01:20 TR News; This is a Microsoft issue, not a "Linux" issue http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34190 also see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
01:20 TR Bot; Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
01:20 TR Bot; Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights
01:21 TR News; "If youre starting out with Bash scripting on Linux, getting a solid grasp of the basics will stand you in good stead. Theyre the foundation of deeper knowledge and higher scripting skills." https://www.howtogeek.com/808593/bash-script-examples/
01:21 TR Bot; 9 Bash Script Examples to Get You Started on Linux
01:24 TR News; Microsoft-connected site overlooks far more severe and unpatched, actively-exploited Microsoft holes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34191
01:24 TR Bot; Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
01:25 TR News; AMD's Radeon RX 7000 GPUs could feature hardware HEY HI processors similar to Nvidia's Tensor cores, as suggested by latest Linux patches https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s-Radeon-RX-7000-GPUs-could-feature-hardware-AI-processors-similar-to-Nvidia-s-Tensor-cores-as-suggested-by-latest-Linux-patches.632297.0.html
01:25 TR Bot; Radeon RX 7000 GPUs could feature hardware AI processors similar to Nvidia's Tensor cores, as suggested by latest Linux patches - NotebookCheck.net News
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01:27 TR News; Russian Windows Users are Turning to Sharing and GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166627#comment-34192
01:27 TR Bot; Russians are searching for pirated Microsoft products and switching to Linux as the Western corporate exodus hits software updates and services: report | Tux Machines
01:28 TR News; If you install malware (bad software), bad things will happen https://blog.sonatype.com/python-dateutils-a-moner-cryptominer-in-disguise-for-windows-linux-macos
↺ https://blog.sonatype.com/python-dateutils-a-moner-cryptominer-in-disguise-for-windows-linux-macos
01:28 TR Bot; python-dateutilsA Cryptominer in Disguise Targeting Windows, Linux, macOS
01:30 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D277.jpg
01:31 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D277.jpg
01:32 MinceR; :3
01:37 DaemonFC; https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/google-in-talks-to-buy-chicagos-thompson-center-report
01:37 TR Bot; Google in talks to buy Chicago's Thompson Center: report
01:38 DaemonFC; Schestowitz-3, After the state got rid of it for nothing and wouldn't say what it would be used for.
01:39 DaemonFC; Although to be fair, they were going to tear it down and it was in horrible condition.
01:39 DaemonFC; Whatever Google pays for it they're also going to have to spend a lot of money gutting it and refurbishing it from top to bottom.
01:39 DaemonFC; So jobs, I guess.
01:39 DaemonFC; I can see why they'd want to expand in Illinois if it's that or California.
01:40 DaemonFC; California is where things go to get taxed and die.
01:40 DaemonFC; Even before they had to shut down the sriracha plant because of the crop failure, California residents tried to chase the guy out because they claimed the place was smelling up the neighborhood.
01:41 DaemonFC; Then of course they had plans to replace those hundreds of jobs and all kinds of obscene California taxes the guy was paying that he wouldn't have to if he moved literally anywhere else.
01:41 DaemonFC; They lost so many net residents in California over the past decade that it was like the entire population of Wyoming got up and moved out.
01:42 DaemonFC; Signs point to that accelerating.
01:42 DaemonFC; Now you have people like Musk who are mad that they were dumb enough to locate in California to begin with threatening people that if they don't "badge in" at the office enough, they're next with the layoffs.
01:45 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166657
01:45 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:45 TR News; Ubuntu and Debian: Multipass, syslog-ng, and virtnbdbackup Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166658
01:45 TR Bot; Ubuntu and Debian: Multipass, syslog-ng, and virtnbdbackup | Tux Machines
01:46 TR News; Leftovers: AMD, Cockpit CMS, and EasyOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166659
01:46 TR Bot; Leftovers: AMD, Cockpit CMS, and EasyOS | Tux Machines
01:47 TR News; Links 29/06/2022: Collabora Online Developer Edition 22.05 and HPLIP 3.22.6 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/hplip-3-22-6/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/hplip-3-22-6/
01:47 TR Bot; Links 29/06/2022: Collabora Online Developer Edition 22.05 and HPLIP 3.22.6 | Techrights
01:55 Schestowitz-3; DaemonFC: tesla is failing not because of where it is located
01:55 Schestowitz-3; it's a massive bubble if not fraud
01:55 Schestowitz-3; making huge promises
01:55 Schestowitz-3; on little actual basis
01:56 Schestowitz-3; any car company can make an EV
01:56 Schestowitz-3; or hybris
01:56 Schestowitz-3; and they have a history of making solid cars
01:56 Schestowitz-3; tesla cannot compete with that
01:56 Schestowitz-3; aside from that, those are not green cars
01:56 Schestowitz-3; they're likely less polluting
01:56 Schestowitz-3; or polluting further away from people/roads
01:56 MinceR; crApple is a massive bubble too, yet they're not in such distress
01:56 MinceR; then again, they're in california too
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:01 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1542297819196841987
02:01 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: here is another look into the twisted world of Putin's propagandists, as they plot to influence public opinion and divide the United States by using the issue of abortions and social injustice in order to "dismember America.""|nitter
02:02 TR News; Building a simple USB adapter for the Logitech Driving Force Shifter with Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/30/building-a-simple-usb-adapter-for-the-logitech-driving-force-shifter-with-arduino/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
02:02 TR Bot; Building a simple USB adapter for the Logitech Driving Force Shifter with Arduino | Arduino Blog
02:03 TR News; Retrofitting Jonathan Cohens house for energy efficiency Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166660
02:03 TR Bot; Retrofitting Jonathan Cohens house for energy efficiency | Tux Machines
02:15 Schestowitz-3; XRevan86: putin's man appointed 3 justices
02:15 Schestowitz-3; 2 of them, male
02:16 XRevan86; I heard.
02:16 Schestowitz-3; all 3 votes against women's interest
02:16 Schestowitz-3; unlike sotomayer and kagan
02:16 Schestowitz-3; so without those 3
02:16 Schestowitz-3; breyer, RBG, keneddy (iirc)
02:16 Schestowitz-3; would vote to protect roe
02:17 Schestowitz-3; that's trumpism
02:17 XRevan86; Trump got lucky and was able to screw the US over for many years to come.
02:17 Schestowitz-3; yes, he choe young ones too
02:17 Schestowitz-3; so they can stay there 30+ years
02:18 XRevan86; "Why are things so bad?" "Well, ye see, my child, 30 years ago one stable genius was very briefly a POTUS"
02:19 Schestowitz-3; the more decent justices are older
02:19 Schestowitz-3; like breyer who left
02:19 Schestowitz-3; so the testicles of trump will outlive them
02:22 TR News; [Meme] EPO Rewarding Corruption Instead of Upholding the Law and Protecting the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-rewards-for-complicity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-rewards-for-complicity/
02:22 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Rewarding Corruption Instead of Upholding the Law and Protecting the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
02:35 TR News; European Patent Office is a Kakistocracy Illustrated | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-kakistocracy-examples/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-kakistocracy-examples/
02:35 TR Bot; European Patent Office is a Kakistocracy Illustrated | Techrights
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-290622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-290622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-290622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-290622.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 29, 2022
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 29, 2022
02:38 TR News; Berty, A New Offline-First Messenger gemini://zelena.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-06-29_Berty_Offline_Messenger.gmi
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-290622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-290622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-290622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-290622.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 29, 2022
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02:39 schestowitz; "
02:39 schestowitz; The original web was a revelation. It may be lo-fi compared to what we know today, but it was a dream for academics, scientists, and indie hobbyists. The Internet connected computers and people around the world." gemini://tbeseda.smol.pub/enhance-story
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 29, 2022
02:41 TR News; 2022/0629/1600 cockies gemini://apintandaparma.club/~ajft/phlog/2022-06-29.gmi
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-29.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-29.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:43 DaemonFC; <Schestowitz-3> and they have a history of making solid cars
02:44 DaemonFC; Yeah, I'm having enough fun with my Buick's airbag sensor, and that's one relatively simple sensor.
02:44 DaemonFC; There's really no diagnostic time involved because you describe what it's doing and they know what it is.
02:45 DaemonFC; Imagine a car full of sensors and wiring and two engines, and lithium ion battery cells, and regenerative braking parts, and lane assist sensors that have to be recalibrated for $9,000 after a fender bender.
02:45 DaemonFC; Now imagine how well that's going to age in Illinois, where for 4-5 months out of the year, you're driving in a slush of half-melted snow and road salt.
02:46 DaemonFC; And on top of all of this, there's a lot of software. Software that you can't even see.
02:46 DaemonFC; You have no idea how the car works because it's more software than machine at this point.
02:47 DaemonFC; You take it to a mechanic that was somewhat qualified to work on a Buick, and he has to go "Aww shucks. I don't know. Take it to the dealership?".
02:47 DaemonFC; Yeah, Car-X just uses aftermarket parts they source from all over the place.
02:48 DaemonFC; Literally all over the place. And most of them are alright, but the discount auto parts store isn't going to have stuff that is compatible for sure with some of these advanced cars they have out now.
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02:56 Schestowitz-3; DaemonFC: Check out this draft:
02:56 Schestowitz-3; http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/
02:56 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Market Share in Russia in 2022: Down From 55% to 50% in 5 Months | Techrights
02:56 Schestowitz-3; XRevan86: ^^
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03:00 TR News; Microsoft Windows Market Share in Russia in 2022: Down From 55% to 50% in 5 Months | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/
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03:01 psydruid; https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/14656337
03:01 TR Bot; TUXEDO P7xxTM1 - Geekbench Browser
03:01 psydruid; "the real issue is that Intel lied and the i9-9900K can spike to 205W actual power when running at 100% even without OC"
03:02 Schestowitz-3; you cheapskate!
03:02 Schestowitz-3; you cannot power it?
03:02 psydruid; this is looking more and more like a pyramid scheme
03:02 Schestowitz-3; "your oven takes up more power"
03:02 psydruid; lol
03:02 Schestowitz-3; "the vacuum clear is worse"
03:02 Schestowitz-3; "leave on the vacuum clear all day long"
03:02 Schestowitz-3; *cleaner
03:02 Schestowitz-3; stingy
03:02 Schestowitz-3; frugal
03:03 Schestowitz-3; you and your 5watt processor
03:03 Schestowitz-3; to surf a web page
03:04 Schestowitz-3; I am tempted to find a page
03:04 Schestowitz-3; that shows power usage per applicance
03:04 Schestowitz-3; and see where 200w fits
03:04 Schestowitz-3; depends on brands and sizes
03:04 psydruid; the US is shielded from this for now by (artificially) low energy prices
03:04 Schestowitz-3; a fridge going at full blast because it is warm is probably less than 200w
03:05 Schestowitz-3; psydruid: how so?
03:05 Schestowitz-3; energy prices went up there too
03:05 Schestowitz-3; not just gasoline
03:05 psydruid; but it just doesn't make any financial sense anymore to have such a wasteful computer
03:05 psydruid; people tell me they still only pay $0.11 per kWh
03:05 Schestowitz-3; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20212022_inflation_surge
03:05 TR Bot; 20212022 inflation surge - Wikipedia
03:05 DaemonFC; Schestowitz-3, Windows long term trend is definitely down, even on desktop PCs.
03:06 Schestowitz-3; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Housing_prices_inflation.webp
03:06 TR Bot; File:Housing prices inflation.webp - Wikipedia
03:06 DaemonFC; And that doesn't even tell the entire story.
03:06 DaemonFC; When the economy gets bad, who is buying new computers all the time?
03:06 Schestowitz-3; https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/energy-shock-could-sap-global-growth-years
03:06 TR Bot; The energy shock could sap global growth for years
03:06 MinceR; slower devices are going to take longer to load and render the page, so perhaps it's better to calculate the amount of energy used to do that and the amount of power used then to keep it displayed and animated :>
03:06 Schestowitz-3; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/20/global-oil-crisis-and-inflation-hurt-consumers-world-energy-council.html
03:06 TR Bot; Global oil crisis and inflation hurt consumers: World Energy Council
03:07 MinceR; or perhaps the amount of energy spent on loading and rendering the page and once it's usable, on it being used for something like 1 minute
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03:07 Schestowitz-3; QbAgGRJUi6VKK2W0murbVsJ06bc+/uOXfPPvL//zt3AL34kiPHUtbN5/kSS4TwGPwwGMzgRYBneqY/DpEW+QBofAXiI23+N6M2kqyiruITaOS2iQHNFP7bOgQIbCOs/pBdMbAue8PW5hmgweK2pN0/aBa6y3sbQtoBmxwfi+SWuaFf+oG7+ASGU5M934dy3F/6/vD9WX8RFutEjwIyP9dQnmcQnktWX18XHMbTi4u5YncJ/hrNptOJwoLK2fRiWQLI2QLwYQ7ZeRmfA5/OfeFLlyaTGOliVsw0wKKuzoVYXt4YSM4F5n65iOBsNgF1rgmWM2auaBXMYjjD0oHNL29TAHN9EwKGXM4ZQ448h6l7Ant7Oeb4pJaXtxVAhh8JkMV0DGJ2kajZRQr2YqYgn11Otee7VqDPke/p9GI8q0CeYzJfN
03:07 Schestowitz-3; 5khn1PjqgwpRo9gdIHhiy9rhDUxOoc5NXB3A7d0MqbnMLuaTC6vBK0djnQ6uaGIX0oX9TUVkFAa4QMNM5qOKSzpqq7Xl/Xk/TtBZ3U9LukYFA0NZefvbU0D/BLTaXFNVUjpmaJlQYMRxeawNDKUKksRxwUdzaiIqRnTMqPTmNY3dJW3olNDxxFdGMdRRi+LKQ0EvSqWdAJXV5RbSouIYoZT5M3S8+KWlhr5vqZRSe14Ts/H5ZSyxRU2g6vb+xtFL+oljQMqQzorbmhW0/FkUj8KR6wBp1c3giY5tQAh1dNrIRZU0sLjiGHX5ygiNBRLyuH2HGuT0qsrTdMJTRBiWQmAm1shLqigk0gTzBEM5YaKy2sbBYiVpFPXYEvr05VzGkTB2QrHK3rucCTLAgKqrjHe1UIvMsAUZoVjuVDwflEuJNAl
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03:08 MinceR; i remember when people joked about using a video as the wallpaper
03:08 MinceR; the "modern" web made it a reality
03:08 DaemonFC; https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/29/thanks-to-leftist-corruption-u-s-military-recruiting-is-in-total-freefall/
03:08 TR Bot; Thanks To Leftist Corruption, U.S. Military Recruiting Is In Total Freefall
03:08 DaemonFC; Nobody wants to die anymore!
03:08 MinceR; lol
03:09 DaemonFC; "As a result of its massive recruiting shortfalls, the U.S. Army has lowered its standards, dropping requirements for recruits to have a high school diploma or GED to enlist, while relaxing tattoo restrictions to allow tattoos on hands and neck without a waiver. These two decisions will result in a less capable force with troublesome discipline issues. The Army is even offering enlistment contracts as short as two years barely enough tim
03:09 DaemonFC; e to learn the basics of modern warfare.
03:09 DaemonFC; The DoD is even reviewing more than 250 disqualifications for service, such as asthma and ADHD."
03:09 MinceR; "Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?"
03:09 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, they mock Putin for throwing prisoners and conscripts with three days training into Ukraine.
03:09 DaemonFC; The Pentagon is about a year or two away from this itself.
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03:10 MinceR; i thought the pentagon had access to all sorts of unmanned vehicles
03:10 MinceR; and the usian military industrial complex has spent ages developing robots that have legs
03:11 schestowitz_log_; https://arab.news/9dcgw
03:11 TR Bot; World Bank warns of inflation in low-income countries as energy prices rise | Arab News
03:11 schestowitz_log_; https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220225-2
03:11 TR Bot; Energy inflation rate continues upward hike, hits 27% - Products Eurostat News - Eurostat
03:11 MinceR; maybe they'll soon be sending remote-controlled terminators to the battlefield :>
03:11 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 298310 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41394 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 3 days ago
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03:12 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 19 MB TotalOut: 3.8 MB
03:12 DaemonFC; "With only 23 percent of Americans ages 17-24 qualified to serve in uniform without a waiver and just 9 percent of those eligible to serve even interested."
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03:12 DaemonFC; Wow, they took away all the good jobs and still ended up with that.
03:12 DaemonFC; I'm impressed.
03:12 DaemonFC; By 2004 the jobs market in Indiana was pretty terrible.
03:12 DaemonFC; It went from almost every factory job I applied at calling me in a day or two to going weeks and then getting a call from Walmart.
03:12 MinceR; "serve in a uniform" is a bit vague
03:13 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:13 MinceR; some places might have waiters in uniform
03:13 DaemonFC; The good jobs left under Bush because they had complete confidence that he would take no action to prevent it from happening.
03:13 DaemonFC; "Some day some smart person will figure out what happened in here, but by then I'll be long gone." he allegedly said.
03:14 MinceR; :>
03:14 DaemonFC; "with some experts suggesting that a draft might be needed again"
03:14 MinceR; classic manager attitude
03:14 DaemonFC; Nobody is going to go along with this.
03:15 IPFS; QmSGNyqayw9Kb8GtH2D4DicRMEG9NuJ9kQEJo4KgFc1NeH
03:15 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:19 matey; thought there was another runaway bot, but its just roy with image data
03:19 schestowitz_log_; some pages work like this now
03:20 schestowitz_log_; they don't have image files
03:20 schestowitz_log_; they use data:
03:20 schestowitz_log_; and add it inline
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03:22 DaemonFC; The Russian army is having lots of problems with defectors.
03:22 DaemonFC; They can go live a better life in Ukraine when this mess is over.
03:22 DaemonFC; They have no hope of ever fixing Russia if they live and go back there.
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; atm ukraine is worse
03:23 matey; they don't have image files <- they use data: <- and add it inline <- websites like that can be taken out and shot
03:24 matey; but the gnu project requires them, as it is on github
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03:36 schestowitz[TR]; ms jack stoppeed in 2019 https://www.zdnet.com/blog/jacks-blog/
03:36 TR Bot; Blog | ZDNet
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; was still shilling his masters
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; with the fake value
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-has-become-the-third-us-company-to-achieve-a-trillion-dollar-valuation-albeit-briefly/
03:36 TR Bot; has become the third US company to achieve a trillion-dollar valuation | ZDNet
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; company makes losses
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; claims to be woprth this much
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; bailed out by trump and biden
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/
03:37 TR Bot; Broiler | ZDNet
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he did leave LF
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; as opposed to move to the fake "research" fake "dept"
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; he is not even using linux ! https://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-continuity-webcam-changes-everything-heres-how-to-use-it/
03:38 TR Bot; Continuity Webcam changes everything: Here's how to use it | ZDNet
03:42 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vnhi4k/like_why_on_earth_did_we_come_up_with_these/
03:42 TR Bot; Like, why on earth did we come up with these stupid laws? : LateStageCapitalism
03:42 DaemonFC; Yeah, the local Burger King and McDonalds threaten you that if you go in to eat and stay more than 30 minutes, they'll call the cops and accuse you of loitering, and that your car will be towed away.
03:43 DaemonFC; Sounds like customer appreciation to me!
03:44 DaemonFC; I've noticed that this only happens in neighborhoods with a lot of black people.
03:44 DaemonFC; You go into a McDonalds in rural areas and there are no signs threatening you about staying too long. You can stay there as long as you want.
03:45 DaemonFC; They have like dozens of kids just loud and obnoxious and not even buying anything for hours.
03:45 DaemonFC; Nobody threatens to call the cops.
03:46 DaemonFC; The movies here tells minors that to see _any_ movie after 6 PM requires a parent or guardian and that each "guardian" has to be over 18 and that they can't be the "guardian" of more than 3 minors.
03:46 DaemonFC; Gurnee has a 7 PM curfew for minors though.
03:47 DaemonFC; In Indiana, there's theoretically a curfew for minors, but I used to be out by myself at night and never got bothered by the police.
03:47 DaemonFC; I was even on probation as a teenager and they said no leaving the house except for school and back without your parents, but nobody was monitoring me, so I didn't care.
03:48 DaemonFC; If you're not doing something illegal and drawing attention to yourself, you're unlikely to be stopped by the police just for walking around during the day, so they never caught me even though I was out somewhere by myself almost every day for a year.
03:49 DaemonFC; I can freely admit to that now of course because the statute of limitations was over with in like 2006.
03:50 DaemonFC; It's people who do something that's clearly illegal and have enemies that snitch on them who find themselves in trouble with probation usually.
03:51 DaemonFC; They told Gonad's son-in-law not to go into a bar.
03:51 DaemonFC; So not only did he go into a bar. He went to the bar next to the probation office to cash his paycheck.
03:53 DaemonFC; Sneak 0
03:54 DaemonFC; But like, yeah, I noticed there's this problem.
03:54 DaemonFC; Everywhere you go, there's shit to buy, right?
03:55 DaemonFC; And standing there without buying something long enough is a criminal offense.
03:55 DaemonFC; You go to the nature preserves to take a walk like your doctor said to do, and there's someone there to mug and rape you.
03:56 DaemonFC; If you shave your head and walk on a sidewalk without committing any sort of crime, the police will stop and demand to see your driver's license.
03:56 DaemonFC; But if you have hair, it's fine.
03:57 DaemonFC; If you check out a book at the library and it's useful as evidence in a criminal investigation, the police can get at it without a warrant.
03:58 DaemonFC; But you can linger as long as you want to at the library and read without checking anything out.
03:58 DaemonFC; The guy there asked why I would come in and read sometimes, all day and then bring my laptop with me.
03:58 DaemonFC; I go, "It's a public library, right?" Yeah. "I'm a member of the public."
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03:59 DaemonFC; If you check anything out, it tells you how much money the library saved you, but there's no line telling you how much the average person paid them that year in taxes.
03:59 DaemonFC; It's just "free", you know.
04:00 DaemonFC; But it's something I actually used to approve of my tax money being spent on, before the USA PATRIOT ACT, the Health Department contact tracers, and them buying less books and CDs so they can dump my money into DRM that requires Windows or a Mac.
04:00 DaemonFC; The less important Windows gets, the nastier the public libraries get about insisting.
04:01 DaemonFC; It's like tax revenue must be down and they need Bill. Like NPR.
04:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
04:01 DaemonFC; Regarding Windows going from 99% to 74% desktop share globally. It's just not as important these days.
04:02 DaemonFC; You use to "need it" because it ran something that you couldn't run someplace else, or printers needed it, or you bought some tax software or a video game, and the list of things that only Windows does is dwindling.
04:02 DaemonFC; So Windows total goes down faster than Windows 11 goes up.
04:02 schestowitz[TR]; i see
04:03 DaemonFC; I upload my tax documents into a web browser app and the software runs on some other computer (TurboTax), and it tells me what the calculations are and sends them to the IRS.
04:03 DaemonFC; The IRS is so backed up that if you file a paper return, they may not even know you sent it to them for two years.
04:05 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, June 29, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:05 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:06 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:06 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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04:27 psydruid; https://nitter.pussthecat.org/PixelzilIa/status/1541621490029715456
04:27 TR Bot; Monster-Queen Pixel (@PixelzilIa): "Bringing this to EVERYONE's attention. I purposely didn't have my most recent card on my account because Epic has falsely charged me before, and this way I could have paypal to back me up if it happens again. I got this email, called my bank, and found out EPIC CONTACTED THEM (+)"|Nitter | PussTheCat.org
04:28 psydruid; scummy companies
04:30 schestowitz[TR]; with fre sofwtare you can discon nect from them
04:30 schestowitz[TR]; except if you want a new version
04:30 schestowitz[TR]; and you can turn that down
04:30 schestowitz[TR]; or even fork
04:31 schestowitz[TR]; proprieytary software = drug dealer
04:32 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-doubles-tips-after-swapping-toyota-tesla-model-3-2022-6
04:32 TR Bot; Uber Driver Doubles Tips After Swapping Toyota for Tesla Model 3
04:32 DaemonFC; This is revolting.
04:32 DaemonFC; People tip you better if they like your car.
04:32 DaemonFC; :/
04:32 DaemonFC; My God, what is wrong with people?
04:33 DaemonFC; I usually leave a $5 on the table for the guy that has to clean up our mess at the Golden Corral.
04:33 DaemonFC; People are only tipping someone driving them around $1-$3?
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; he will need the tips
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; for repairs :-)
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; it does not even out
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04:34 schestowitz[TR]; some uber "drivers" committed suicide
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; bought expensive cars
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; got underpaid
04:34 DaemonFC; Loan still due.
04:34 DaemonFC; Pay up chump, says the bank.
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: 60% in the US own a home
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; matey says
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; inc. mortgages I assume
04:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The Golden Corral doesn't really pay people who bus tables all that well.
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; the bank owns them
04:35 DaemonFC; I think the tipped minimum wage.
04:35 schestowitz[TR]; iirc some places are 100% tips
04:36 schestowitz[TR]; i was told this inn washingtonm
04:36 schestowitz[TR]; you even need to tip the bartender
04:36 DaemonFC; $7.20 an hour....fuck.
04:36 DaemonFC; So if you have a bunch of fat slobs who go in there and run you ragged and leave you nothing.
04:36 DaemonFC; There was this black lady on the phone with someone at the restaurant the other day YELLING about how stingy she was as a tipper.
04:37 DaemonFC; She actually bragged that she went to a place so many times without leaving a tip that she was asked to leave.
04:37 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: typos? http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/
04:37 TR Bot; Sitting Down Less | Techrights
04:37 DaemonFC; "I've been thrown out of better places than this, motherfuckers!" LOL
04:37 DaemonFC; Not an actual quote.
04:38 DaemonFC; That's rare. That a manager would ask a customer who doesn't tip to leave.
04:38 DaemonFC; It's their employee who isn't making any money.
04:38 DaemonFC; I wonder where this happened at.
04:42 TR News; | Gemini address:
04:42 DaemonFC; Looks okay.
04:43 DaemonFC; I always thought the standing desk was the employer's way of saying they will make you uncomfortable just because they can.
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04:43 DaemonFC; John complained when they took the chairs away and brought in "standing chairs".
04:43 TR News; Sitting Down Less | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/
04:43 DaemonFC; Then yelled at people for sitting in them anyway and looking ridiculous.
04:44 DaemonFC; The TSA employed him for years, he didn't catch a single criminals.
04:44 DaemonFC; All he ever did was cost money and get written up that one time for flagging a pizza and then losing it in the airport at Midway.
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; TSA caught him
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; layoff
04:44 schestowitz[TR]; caught him catching people's packages
04:45 schestowitz[TR]; and I reported him to them
04:45 DaemonFC; I'm not supposed to know that the TSA locked down an entire checkpoint and went looking for a pizza and never found it because of him.
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04:46 DaemonFC; Then he missed a raise because he had the write up on his personnel file, so he had me sit down and draft a letter to the national headquarters in DC so he could get his write up removed and get his raise, which he did.
04:46 DaemonFC; They even gave him back pay.
04:47 DaemonFC; He told me a lot of things and said "Don't ever tell this to anyone.".
04:47 DaemonFC; The pizza thing is just one thing I'm not supposed to know about.
04:48 DaemonFC; It would embarrass them if the public was aware that the people working for them are idiots who can't even keep track of a pizza and force the airport to go under partial lockdown for half an hour before they give up and call off the search.
04:49 DaemonFC; It's not classified though. I mean, it's not a crime for me to know that. It is a crime that he told me that it happened after they said don't tell anyone.
04:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Anything that shatters the government's image of being powerful and knowing everything can't be allowed to escape.
04:55 DaemonFC; They know a lot, but they don't know everything.
04:55 DaemonFC; They're trying to get to the point where they know everything.
04:55 AdmFubar; beginnings of a sonic screwdriver??? https://techxplore.com/news/2022-06-acoustic-levitation.html
04:55 TR Bot; Novel construction system uses acoustic levitation to assemble parts
04:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mandy and I went to see the movie The Black Phone the other day.
04:56 schestowitz[TR]; denyphone
04:56 DaemonFC; Pretty good movie, but then I read a review about it, and the reviewer says that The Grabber (the child abductor) would never get away with it today.
04:56 DaemonFC; Because of cell phones and Ring doorbells.
04:56 DaemonFC; He said that's why it had to take place in 1979.
04:57 DaemonFC; And I was like, "It had to take place them? We didn't have smartphones and ring doorbells in 1989, or 1999, and barely had anything like that in 2009!".
04:57 DaemonFC; And the police even admit that they don't actually solve much crime now, but they still want them.
04:57 DaemonFC; From what I've seen, legally, they're as dangerous for you as they are for anyone who comes up and means you harm.
04:58 DaemonFC; Right? Like say you have to shoot a person who was invading your home and then the police yank the video, that you have no control over, and use it to prosecute you with.
04:58 DaemonFC; It's happened.
04:58 DaemonFC; They don't mention that this happens when they say they will pay you back for buying a Ring.
04:58 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: typos? http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/
04:58 TR Bot; Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier | Techrights
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04:59 DaemonFC; What if you have someone over at your house and they're there to help you commit a crime?
04:59 DaemonFC; A crime that both of you want to be a part of but which is illegal nonetheless.
04:59 DaemonFC; The video is on Amazon's server.
04:59 DaemonFC; The police can yank it.
04:59 DaemonFC; You get a one way ticket to the slammer.
05:00 DaemonFC; In 5 years when Alito, Thomas, and the rest knock down Lawrence and gay sex is illegal in half the country.
05:01 DaemonFC; The polie will use Grindr logs to prove you invited someone over for sex and then they'll go to Amazon and pull the video of them arriving at your house for sex.
05:01 DaemonFC; Establishing that you made plans and then had them over.
05:01 DaemonFC; Even if you shut up and don't say anything after you're under arrest!
05:01 DaemonFC; *police
05:02 TR News; Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/
05:02 DaemonFC; It's too dangerous for me and even if it helps the police solve something, what difference does it make?
05:02 DaemonFC; Like if someone goes out and slashes your tires and the police actually catch them with a Ring video, then you're still not getting your tires back.
05:04 DaemonFC; How does having a Ring give you your life back as a crime victim? It doesn't. But it can be so useful to the police for putting you in prison.
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05:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Criminal acts of vandalism are covered by my car insurance.
05:05 DaemonFC; I have a very low deductible.
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; my car insurance is zero
05:05 DaemonFC; If someone keeps slashing tires and drilling gas tanks, then my insurance company will owe me a lot of tires and gas tanks.
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; and I need to deal with no paperwo9rd either
05:05 schestowitz[TR]; *paperwork
05:06 DaemonFC; Some shitdick that goes around stealing gas probably has nothing you can sue them for.
05:06 DaemonFC; That's why they're stealing your gas.
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; the insurance company does not compensate you for lost time
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; like repairs
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; anyway
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; back on topic
05:06 schestowitz[TR]; i i posted re kde
05:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, I loaded it in Gemini.
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05:07 DaemonFC; You need to overhaul your site and get rid of the messy formatting and stuff.
05:07 schestowitz[TR]; thnaks
05:07 DaemonFC; Make it look more like it does in Gemini.
05:08 schestowitz[TR]; the the bits below?
05:08 DaemonFC; I don't know. It would be cleaner.
05:09 DaemonFC; Also, losing the formatting and images and stylesheets and scripts would probably make hosting costs next to nothing.
05:09 DaemonFC; "When it comes to managing software packages, GNU/Linux is in some sense better and more robust than what Apple and Microsoft provide. Its also a lot more secure. In some distros its already simplified to the level of app mentality (like Android and iOS)."
05:10 DaemonFC; The new GNOME themes lately look more like Material Design on Android.
05:10 DaemonFC; And the Software Center has greatly improved.
05:10 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166661
05:10 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
05:10 DaemonFC; In that it's not a huge memory leak that may add a repo and may crash and shit its database like it was up to this point.
05:10 schestowitz[TR]; brb
05:11 DaemonFC; Looks okay.
05:14 DaemonFC; We get to go pick up Mandy's new teeth tomorrow.
05:14 DaemonFC; The insurance apparently covered more of it than I thought they were going to.
05:15 DaemonFC; I may keep or cancel his cleaning appointment later this year depending on where we are with the annual allowance and just take him over to the college dental clinic if we've overshot our insurance limit on this.
05:15 DaemonFC; If all he needs are cleanings starting next year though, I mean, he is insured and probably won't have anymore major stuff going on for a while.
05:15 DaemonFC; So might as well go back to the dentist and get something from the insurance.
05:16 DaemonFC; All it gets us to if we've overshot our budget is the amount allowed by the plan, which gets a cleaning at the dentist to $74.
05:16 DaemonFC; They only charge $15 at the school, so no brainer.
05:17 DaemonFC; I have no insurance at all, so most dentists are going to get me for $150-250, depending on if there's X-rays or not.
05:18 DaemonFC; I spent all day there letting students seal my teeth last time I had a cleaning.
05:18 DaemonFC; Those normally would have been like $60 each and they did 11 of them.
05:18 DaemonFC; They didn't charge me because the students needed experience, and the dentist comes by and checks to make sure they did it right.
05:18 DaemonFC; Insurance does not cover sealants for adults.
05:19 DaemonFC; They don't care if your teeth fall out. If they have to pay for an extraction or filling later, they will, but by that point you might not even be insured with them anymore.
05:20 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-tesla-toyota-swapped-hybrid-car-lease-tesla-gas-price-2022-6
05:20 TR Bot; Uber Driver Says Leasing Tesla Cheaper Than Fueling Toyota Camry
05:20 DaemonFC; $450 a week to lease and charge a Tesla. LOL
05:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], What will be funny is when the economy hits the skids and nobody can afford gas and it comes plummeting back to like $2 a gallon, and she's stuck with this stupid Tesla.
05:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], What the government is not saying is they need the economy to crash for a number of reasons.
05:23 DaemonFC; Not the least of which is we're going to run out of oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in a matter of 3-4 months at this rate and there's no guarantee that supplies will be normalized by then. They probably won't.
05:23 DaemonFC; So if the economy doesn't go into a recession, we're talking $12 a gallon gas and lines a mile long to get it.
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06:04 DaemonFC; I don't see this election going too well for the Democrats.
06:04 DaemonFC; I looked at the most recent polling and in Illinois of all places, Governor Pritzker is only 5 points ahead of Darren Bailey.
06:04 DaemonFC; It's entirely possible, however unlikely, that we end up with a "Paul Lepage of Illinois" here pretty soon.
06:05 DaemonFC; I mean they're blowing it so bad that they're going to trade paint in some "deep blue states".
06:26 DaemonFC; https://www.amazon.com/CoreCarbon-Pre-Filter-Designed-Honeywell-Purifier/dp/B07CZ283NH/
06:26 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:26 DaemonFC; I might get some of these and see if they work. I had a couple Honeywell K Pre-Filters left but now they've gone way up in price.
06:26 DaemonFC; Those seem to neutralize the awful smell from the guy down the hall.
06:27 DaemonFC; I spent a month shampooing and pouring baking soda on my carpets just to find out it's drifting down the hall and through my door from that guy!
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:48 matey; Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier
06:48 matey; uninstalling it has never been closer to impossible
06:50 matey; Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier <- thank ibm/microsoft, they control the stack now
06:50 matey; theyve always been good at installing things that are painful or difficult to remove
06:51 matey; microsoft: internet edgesplorer
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06:51 matey; ibm: yellow patches on clothing
06:52 matey; not to mention init malware
06:56 matey; If you can successfully get into Lotus Pose, you're not likely to injure your ankles. But most people are not built to naturally drop into the pose because it requires very open hips. Check if your body is ready for Lotus by sitting cross-legged. If your knees don't touch the ground, your hips are not ready.
06:57 matey; that would be me
06:57 matey; 5 Lotus Pose Variations To Prevent Injury - DoYou Lotus is a pose that requires a great deal of hip mobility and when done improperly can strain ankles, knees, and hips to name a few injury-prone areas. Thankfully, there are several alternatives that can keep your hips, knees, ankles happy.
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07:11 DaemonFC; Installing Windows software is a nightmare.
07:11 DaemonFC; There's actually no official way to do that in Win32.
07:11 DaemonFC; That's why there are so many "Installation Framework Vendors.
07:12 DaemonFC; And then they all come up with their own scripting and shit, and of course you can write a virus with it, and then antivirus companies have false positives because they don't know if it's malicious or just doing something that looks a little strange.
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07:45 TR News; "I watched Jeremys talk at CSS Day 2022" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/notes-from-in-and-out-of-style/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
07:45 TR Bot; Notes From In And Out Of Style - Jim Nielsens Blog
07:45 TR News; "if you have a multi-homed host, a host with multiple interfaces and IP addresses" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SymmetricAndAsymmetricIPRouting | Source: uni Toronto
07:45 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/SymmetricAndAsymmetricIPRouting
07:46 TR News; "Ive been looking for a way to run containers faster since then" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/06/28/some-notes-on-bubblewrap/ | Source: Julia Evans
07:46 TR Bot; Notes on running containers with bubblewrap
07:46 TR News; "Courtney Allen has published a blog post about how to run a website and blog almost exclusively on things that are in the OpenBSD base system" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220629071853 | Source: Undeadly
07:46 TR Bot; (Almost) 0 Dependency Websites with OpenBSD & AsciiDoc
07:47 TR News; "A few months ago, a friend of mine mentioned that they still, in the year 2021, used RSS feeds to subscribe to the blogs they liked." https://prose.nsood.in/implementing-rss |
07:47 TR Bot; Implementing RSS for my blog (yes, this one!) Prose
07:47 TR News; "I have fallen in love with a recent combination of software to make good looking websites" https://blog.passwordclass.xyz/blogs/2022/06/0-dependency-websites-with-openbsd-asciidoc.html |
07:47 TR Bot; 0 Dependency Websites with OpenBSD & AsciiDoc
07:48 TR News; Games https://www.howtogeek.com/812246/atari-was-very-very-hard-nolan-bushnell-on-atari-50-years-later/ | Source: HowTo Geek
07:48 TR Bot; Atari Was Very, Very Hard Nolan Bushnell on Atari, 50 Years Later
07:49 TR News; "Valve made a change to the specifications of the top two versions of the Steam Deck last month," https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/some-steam-decks-ship-with-an-x2-ssd-instead-of-an-x4-ssd/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:49 TR Bot; Steam Decks ship with an x2 SSD instead of an x4 SSD | GamingOnLinux
07:49 TR News; "AOKZOE will be jumping in the handheld ring with their upcoming AOKZOE A1 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U portable" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/aokzoe-are-the-latest-to-attempt-a-steam-deck-rival-with-the-aokzoe-a1/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:49 TR Bot; are the latest to attempt a Steam Deck rival with the AOKZOE A1 | GamingOnLinux
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07:51 TR News; "the installer recommends we choose a complex password" https://www.tecmint.com/reset-forgotten-root-password-rhel-9/ | Source: TecMint
07:51 TR Bot; How to Change and Reset Forgotten Root Password in RHEL 9
07:52 TR News; "GNU Nano is an editor that has a minimal learning curve and hence is widely used for beginner-level guides." https://linuxhandbook.com/cut-copy-paste-nano/ | Source: Linux Handbook
07:52 TR Bot; How to Cut, Copy and Paste Text in Nano editor?
07:52 TR News; ICBM telling decision-makers to become clowns (outsourcing the company that pays them the salary!!!) "5 things CIOs should know about cloud service providers" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-shares-get-started-cloud-services | Source: Red Hat Official
07:52 TR Bot; Red Hat Shares Get started with cloud services
07:53 TR News; "The software operator is a design pattern." https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-4 | Source: Ubuntu
07:53 TR Bot; software operator design pattern: advantages part 4 | Ubuntu
07:53 TR News; "Teodoras help was the pilot of a new program spearheaded by Daniele, the documentation secondment program." https://ubuntu.com//blog/multipass-documentation-proudly-a-work-in-progress | Source: Ubuntu
07:54 TR Bot; documentation: proudly a work in progress | Ubuntu
07:54 TR News; "Along with the usual bug fixing, maintenance, and upstream version enablement work" https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-charmed-ceph-with-ceph-quincy-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu
07:54 TR Bot; new in Charmed Ceph with Ceph Quincy on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu
07:55 TR News; "the popular WordPress plugin W3 Total Cache" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-configure-w3-total-cache-plugin-with-redis-on-wordpress-website/ | Source: RoseHosting
07:55 TR Bot; to Configure W3 Total Cache Plugin with Redis on WordPress website - RoseHosting
07:55 TR News; CitHub Copilot is the lovechild of criminals https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/github-copilot-is-still-a-foss-legal:e see http://techrights.org/2022/05/28/rumours-github/
07:55 TR Bot; GitHub Copilot Is Still A FOSS Legal Nightmare
07:55 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXI Rumours About How Microsoft Plans to Actually Make Money (Not Losses) From GitHub | Techrights
07:56 TR News; iophk: DDoS are enabled by the large botnets of networked Windows systems
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08:01 TR News; "Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom does not seem like a happy man right now." https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-not-happy-says-mega-infringement-report-on-the-way-220629/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:01 TR Bot; Dotcom Not Happy, Says 'Mega Mass Piracy Report' is On the Way * TorrentFreak
08:01 TR News; "anti-piracy [sic] coalition" https://torrentfreak.com/ace-anti-piracy-alliance-expands-into-asia-to-disrupt-illegal-streaming-220629/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:01 TR Bot; Anti-Piracy Alliance Expands Into Asia to Disrupt Illegal Streaming * TorrentFreak
08:02 TR News; "In this blog post, I reverse-engineer a hybrid module that was used for ground-testing" http://www.righto.com/2022/06/x-ray-reverse-engineering-hybrid-module.html | Source: Ken Shirriff
08:02 TR Bot; X-ray reverse-engineering a hybrid module from 1960s Apollo test equipment
08:03 TR News; "With the update to version 102, Firefox now automatically strips tracking parameter" https://www.pcworld.com/article/797980/this-new-privacy-feature-in-firefox-strips-tracking-info-from-links.html | Source: PC World
08:03 TR Bot; new privacy feature in Firefox strips tracking info from links | PCWorld
08:04 TR News; "At some point I realized that some queries were taking a few seconds to produce results, so I started to wonder if a more robust database such as PostgreSQL" https://www.twilio.com/blog/sqlite-postgresql-complicated |
08:04 TR Bot; SQLite or PostgreSQL? It's Complicated!
08:05 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166662
08:05 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:05 TR News; Games: Atari at 50 and SteamOS (GNU/Linux) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166663
08:05 TR Bot; Games: Atari at 50 and SteamOS (GNU/Linux) | Tux Machines
08:06 TR News; "The moment when someone asks me for how I'm feeling, and then it'll take me serveal minutes to figure out how I'm actually feeling, and to think about if I'm ok to express how I'm fine with expressing for some other minutes." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random3
08:07 TR News; Down under: "Only a couple of days after the winter solstice and its still very dark when we get up in the morning, the sun doesn't rise until after 7.30." gemini://apintandaparma.club/~ajft/phlog/2022-06-24.gmi
08:08 TR News; These are not the child processes you are looking for. gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/29.1
08:09 TR News; Notes on an overheard conversation on who will be driving gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/28.1
08:09 TR News; "Firefox [1] was giving me fits. It would work fine except when I quit the application, then it would just sit there consuming over 100% of the CPU (Central Processing Unit) (not hard given I have multiple CPUs on the machine)." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/27.1
08:25 TR News; "Each source in the above diagram represents a single encoder" https://jpieper.com/2022/06/28/flexible-i-o-source-configuration/ | Source: J Pieper
08:25 TR Bot; Flexible I/O: Source configuration | A Modicum of Fun
08:25 TR News; "The command set wasn't always well thought out, and then over the years it grew by accretion, with new stuff piled on top of old stuff that couldn't be changed because Backward Compatibility." https://blog.plover.com/prog/git/tips.html | Source: Mark Dominus
08:25 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Things I wish everyone knew about Git (Part I)
08:30 TR News; "I think a lot about the lifecycle of websites." https://notebook.wesleyac.com/how-websites-die/ |
08:30 TR Bot; How Websites Die Wesleys Notebook
08:30 TR News; "Outrage dividend is the boost in reach that content which elicits strong emotional responses" https://rys.io/en/159.html | Source: Micha Woniak
08:30 TR Bot; The Outrage Dividend | Songs on the Security of Networks
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08:34 TR News; "According to The New York Times, some of the employees laid off were involved in human resources" https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/29/23188977/substack-layoffs-14-percent-economy | Source: The Verge
08:34 TR Bot; Substack CEO says hes very sorry about laying off 13 people - The Verge
08:35 TR News; [Old] "Im not here to defend him but it appeared to me that he wasnt necessarily looking to attack or hurt his team (I could be wrong) but to stop them from limiting themselves" https://code.likeagirl.io/5-things-steve-jobs-taught-me-7ce4b9adee8 |
08:35 TR Bot; 5 Things Steve Jobs Taught Me. Firstly, if you havent already, I | by Serena | Code Like A Girl
08:36 TR News; Proprietary software: "Norways public and private sector websites were temporarily down on Wednesday following a cyberattack that targeted the countrys national data network, forcing it to suspend online services for several hours." https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3541585-norway-hit-with-cyberattack-temporarily-suspending-service/ | Source: The Hill
08:36 TR Bot; Norway hit with cyberattack, temporarily suspending service | The Hill
08:36 TR News; "The distributed-denial-of-service (DDOS) attack targeted a secure national data network forcing the temporary suspension of online services for several hours, the Norwegian National Security Authority said." https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-technology-norway-government-and-politics-b837c155fde5d9cb4215b77dff9a94f0 | Source: Associated Press
08:36 TR Bot; Cyberattack hits Norway, pro-Russian hacker group fingered | AP News
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08:38 TR News; With Extensions, GNOME Web is Slowly Becoming an Attractive Option on Desktop Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166664
08:38 TR Bot; With Extensions, GNOME Web is Slowly Becoming an Attractive Option on Desktop Linux | Tux Machines
08:38 TR News; 10 Fun Free and Open Source Action-Adventure Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166665
08:38 TR Bot; 10 Fun Free and Open Source Action-Adventure Games | Tux Machines
08:44 TR News; "Now if I break another YubiKey, or brick my phone" https://earthly.dev/blog/multi-factor-auth/ | Source: Earthly
08:44 TR Bot; Programmatic Multi Factor Auth and Time Based One Time Passwords - Earthly Blog
08:46 TR News; "According to the Republican FCC commissioner, TikTok violates policies dictating the app stores of Apple and Google covering user data" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/fcc-commissioner-calls-on-apple-alphabet-to-ban-tiktok-1235174083/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
08:46 TR Bot; FCC Commissioner Calls On Apple, Alphabet to Ban TikTok The Hollywood Reporter
08:46 TR News; "The app is run by ByteDance" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/tiktok-data-concerns-broadband-data-collection-system-impact-of-internet-access-on-covid-19-mortality/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
08:46 TR Bot; TikTok Data Concerns, Broadband Data Collection System, Internet Access on COVID-19 Mortality : Broadband Breakfast
08:46 TR News; "This issue is not resolved yet" https://status.torproject.org/issues/2022-06-09-network-ddos/ |
08:46 TR Bot; Network DDoS | Tor Project status
08:51 TR News; "An April circular by the Chinese Ministry of Education on student admission criteria at Tibetan universities" https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2022/06/30/2003780834 | Source: Taipei Times
08:51 TR Bot; China destroys education in Tibet - Taipei Times
08:51 TR News; "While Chinese-state propaganda says the reason for the move is to get the people away from harsh weather and relatively backward production and living conditions" https://freetibet.org/latest/chinese-government-to-force-more-than-100000-tibetans-out-of-their-homes/ |
08:51 TR Bot; Chinese government to force more than 100,000 Tibetans out of their homes - Free Tibet
08:52 TR News; Lithuania https://www.baltictimes.com/lithuania_fixing_cybersecurity_gaps__not_surprised_by_russia_s_hostile_rhetoric___pm/ | Source: The Baltic Times
08:52 TR Bot; Lithuania fixing cybersecurity gaps, not surprised by Russia's hostile rhetoric PM
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08:57 TR News; tio is a serial device I/O tool for Linux targeted at embedded developers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166666
08:57 TR Bot; tio is a serial device I/O tool for Linux targeted at embedded developers | Tux Machines
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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09:14 TR News; "I think what were facing is an instance of the Two-Worlds Problem thats now everywhere in US society." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-cybersecurity-skills-gap-is-another-instance-of-late-stage-capitalism/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
09:14 TR Bot; The Cybersecurity Skills Gap is Another Instance of Late-stage Capitalism - Daniel Miessler
09:14 TR News; TikTok Misinformation/Disinformation https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/tiktok-abortion-herbs-misinformation-death-1376101/ | Source: Rolling Stone
09:14 TR Bot; Pennyroyal Tea for Abortion Is Going Viral on TikTok. It Could Kill You - Rolling Stone
09:14 TR News; Misinformation/Disinformation https://www.teenvogue.com/story/social-media-influencers-climate-change | Source: Teen Vogue
09:14 TR Bot; Social Media Influencers Get Media Attention on Climate Change Grassroots Activists Dont | Teen Vogue
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09:18 TR News; Censorship by Zuck and Sandbag https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/facebook-instagram-restricting-abortion-pills-posts-fast-after-roe-end-rcna35834 | Source: NBC
09:18 TR Bot; What Facebook and Instagram's restricting abortion pills posts so fast should tell us
09:19 TR News; "He could be seen sharing Tibets history and authentic Tibetan culture with the tourists" https://www.tibetanreview.net/china-jails-tibetan-university-student-for-contact-with-exile-fellows/ | Source: Tibet
09:19 TR Bot; China jails Tibetan university student for contact with exile fellows - Tibetan Review
09:25 TR News; "The American Guild of Variety Artists, which is affiliated with the AFL-CIO" https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/medieval-theater-plans-union-vote-pay-safety-concerns-rcna35916 | Source: NBC
09:25 TR Bot; Medieval Times theater plans union vote over pay and safety concerns
09:26 TR News; Whistleblowers https://www.projectcensored.org/whistleblowers/ | Source: Project Censored
09:26 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/whistleblowers/ )
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:59 TR News; OpenLibrary https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/enjoy-digital-ownership-and-public-libraries-while-you-still-can/ | Source: Techdirt
09:59 TR Bot; Digital Ownership And Public Libraries While You Still Can | Techdirt
10:06 TR News; As June ends (last day today) lets examine the rapid demise of Windows in Russia, even before the exodus media speaks of this week (an ongoing story) http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/
10:06 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Market Share in Russia in 2022: Down From 55% to 50% in 5 Months | Techrights
10:06 TR News; Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos arent just a dark era for the EPO; they might in fact be the end of the EPO, having made corruption the new normal or new ways of working http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-kakistocracy-examples/
10:06 TR Bot; European Patent Office is a Kakistocracy Illustrated | Techrights
10:06 TR News; Avoiding long periods of sitting down is important for ones health, especially in sedentary lifestyles or jobs http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/
10:06 TR Bot; Sitting Down Less | Techrights
10:06 TR News; GNU/Linux is easy to use and extend; the above demonstrates how new software gets installed, removed, and updated in KDE Neon http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/
10:06 TR Bot; Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier | Techrights
10:06 TR News; Wednesday proved that the EPO actively guards corruption and protects Team Battistelli from scrutiny; instead of standing for patent law the EPO under Antnio Campinos stands for overt violations of the law; national delegates are fine with it as long as they're personally rewarded for complicity http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-rewards-for-complicity/
10:06 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Rewarding Corruption Instead of Upholding the Law and Protecting the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
10:07 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/irc-log-290622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/irc-log-290622/
10:07 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 | Techrights
10:24 TR News; Point Crawl gemini://idiomdrottning.org/point-crawl
10:34 TR News; JCPA https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/journalism-competition-and-preservation-act-will-produce-neither-competition-nor | Source: EFF
10:34 TR Bot; The Journalism Competition and Preservation Act Will Produce Neither Competition Nor Preservation | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:35 TR News; Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/29/trump_raged_secret_service_january_6 | Source: Democracy Now
10:35 TR Bot; Jan. 6 Bombshell: Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent, Demanded to Join Mob at Capitol | Democracy Now!
10:37 TR News; Bear in mind Pro Publica bagged bribes from the world's biggest polluter, Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/generators-carbon-monoxide-deaths-congress-investigation
10:37 TR Bot; Congress Investigates Portable Generator Manufacturers Following Carbon Monoxide Deaths ProPublica
10:40 TR News; Clarence Thomas https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/clarence-thomas-really-wants-to-make-it-easier-for-the-powerful-to-sue-people-for-criticizing-them/ | Source: Techdirt
10:40 TR Bot; Thomas REALLY Wants To Make It Easier For The Powerful To Sue People For Criticizing Them | Techdirt
10:41 TR News; NSO Group https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/nso-lawyer-tells-lawmakers-company-can-count-to-five-will-need-more-time-to-count-higher-than-that/ | Source: Techdirt
10:41 TR Bot; Lawyer Tells Lawmakers Company Can Count To Five, Will Need More Time To Count Higher Than That | Techdirt
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10:48 TR News; GPS https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/a-gps-frequency-standard-for-when-the-timing-has-to-be-right/ | Source: Hackaday
10:48 TR Bot; GPS Frequency Standard For When The Timing Has To Be Right | Hackaday
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10:49 TR News; Zuck and Sandbag against women https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/facebook-bans-people-for-simply-saying-abortion-pills-exist/ | Source: Techdirt
10:49 TR Bot; Bans People For Simply Saying Abortion Pills Exist | Techdirt
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11:00 TR News; "Both environments are not the most welcoming, but there are plenty of tools from the community to help parsing them. In this post Ill talk about b4, suggested by my GSOC mentor Andr, a tool to help with applying patches." https://tales-aparecida.github.io/tales-tips-and-tricks/posts/dri-devel/gsoc-report-4/
11:00 TR Bot; Tales Tips and Tricks
11:02 TR News; "Recently Ive heard from a friend that his professor simply doesnt believe that free software should be profitable, so Im making this blog post." https://crosscat.me/real-contributions-with-real-money/ Gulag does nor sponsor Free software, it spies on billions of people while bribing some geeks to keep quiet about it
11:02 TR Bot; Real contributions with real money
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11:08 TR News; What Makes TMC2208 Stepper Motor Drivers Silent - The DIY Life https://www.the-diy-life.com/what-makes-tmc2208-stepper-motor-drivers-silent/ Source: the-diy-life
11:08 TR Bot; What Makes TMC2208 Stepper Motor Drivers Silent - The DIY Life
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11:22 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252721
11:22 TR Bot; Gazprom stock collapses
11:22 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252724
11:22 TR Bot; Russia leaves Snake Island allegedly as gesture of goodwill following Ukrainian strike
11:25 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/30/russia-doesnt-strike-any-civilian-targets-putin-comments-on-missile-strike-on-shopping-centre-in-ukraines-kremenchuk-news "Russia doesnt strike any civilian targets: Putin comments on missile strike on shopping centre in Ukraines Kremenchuk"
11:25 TR Bot; .
11:25 XRevan86; I mentioned this yesterday, but this is actually translated.
11:28 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1542373089111064576
11:28 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: bringing you another report from behind the looking glass. The most deluded pundit, Professor Avatkov explained key differences between Russia & the West: Russia is all about peace and cooperation, while the West is all about war. Watch it and weep:"|nitter
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11:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I've been talking to RMS about Roe and gun control.
11:36 DaemonFC; I described how hellish Illinois is with the crime and how broken the FOID system is and how dangerous it actually is here compared to Indiana.
11:37 DaemonFC; He's under the impression that crime is lower in states with more gun control laws.
11:37 DaemonFC; Here's part of my latest reply:
11:37 DaemonFC; "As far as gun control again for a moment, and Illinois, and FOID... I never said I disagreed totally with gun control, but it has to make sense. First of all, a law that contradicts itself, is impossible to comply with, and is unreasonably vague is already unconstitutional with or without the Second Amendment. The FOID law is so bad that throwing it out is the only way to hit the hard reset and force the state legislature to try again. If it's
11:37 DaemonFC; allowed to stand, they have no reason to fix it. If they were going to, they would have sometime between 1968 and now.
11:37 DaemonFC; Existing case law basically says that the politicians can't create a law that is any of these things because at that point, it's unclear what is even prohibited, and anyone at all can be charged with a crime for the most innocuous behavior.
11:37 DaemonFC; As far as how well FOID is working, well, it isn't.
11:38 DaemonFC; There are over 60,000 guns that should have been surrendered to the police and over 20,000 revoked FOID cards that are still floating around out there. You can't do anything involving the cards if they revoke them because you can't get a transfer authorization number with a revoked card, but over 60,000 guns that they don't know what happened to is a little bit of a problem, and those are just the ones that were in the FOID system to begin
11:38 DaemonFC; with, not accounting for trunk loads of guns brought into the state in cars over the years and sold on the streets that were never in the FOID system that the state knows nothing about. They also banned 3d printed "ghost" guns, but the DEFCAD files are still out there and still shared, and they really can't do anything except punish the ones they catch.
11:38 DaemonFC; So even if they started enforcing FOID and raised a magical force field around the entire state of Illinois this very minute which caused all new guns being smuggled into the state to be vaporized, for the sake of argument.... What then? They'd still have people being shot and illegal guns being recovered at crime scenes for the next thousand years.
11:38 DaemonFC; As far as Illinois having less crime than states with looser gun laws, that's a joke. I moved here from Indiana and the first time I was a victim of a "gun crime" was two weeks in when I was mugged in Chicago. Shootings and perverts in Chicago are so rampant that between the two, nobody will let their children play in the public parks. There is absolutely nothing like this going in in the vast majority of Indiana, and if there is something like
11:38 DaemonFC; this going on, it's in the Chicago spillover area.
11:38 DaemonFC; When I lived in Indiana, I didn't have to lock my doors and windows, really. I'd go out walking late at night with cash in my pockets because nothing would happen. Shootings and murders were almost unheard of. The town I lived in most recently in Indiana had something like 20 years with no murders I've heard about, which was only broken recently when a man from Illinois with a knife drove there and stabbed and killed a family of four.
11:38 DaemonFC; And unlike the Chicago police, the police in Indiana got him, and unlike in Illinois, he will be remanded and go to prison.
11:38 DaemonFC; The moment a Felony Agg UUW isn't a possibility anymore due to the events I described in my last email, I intend to buy a gun for the apartment. We don't live in the best neighborhood. The landlord evicts people for not paying their rent, they come back and sabotage the building, You come home with the groceries, and you can't go in because the "Gang Police" are out here with full tactical gear and bullpup rifles serving a warrant. You can
11:38 DaemonFC; really only arm yourself and hope the day never comes. During the riots, our neighborhood got torn up pretty badly. I was just hoping they didn't torch MY car. What did I ever do to those losers? Nothing. That's what.
11:38 DaemonFC; Again, Illinois is not safer than Indiana. It's just an illusion supported by propaganda and wishful thinking."
11:39 DaemonFC; They made me sell the last one and file a "Firearm Disposition Record".
11:39 DaemonFC; With 48 hours notice.
11:39 DaemonFC; This is fucking nuts.
11:39 DaemonFC; You can have a gun!
11:40 DaemonFC; You can't!
11:40 DaemonFC; Okay now you can!
11:41 DaemonFC; Luckily prices on guns are up.
11:41 DaemonFC; If you hold onto one for a while you can usually sell it for a lot more than you paid.
11:41 DaemonFC; Demand is red hot right now, especially with all of the stuff going on.
11:42 DaemonFC; Illinois has topped the states with the most legal gun sales for the past two and a half years.
11:42 DaemonFC; People here suddenly realized a few things.
11:42 DaemonFC; Including that the criminals have them and the government here doesn't do much about the criminals.
11:45 TR News; coexist with HEY HI gemini://xoc3.io/blog/2022-06-30
11:53 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1108852884/pete-buttigieg-launches-1b-pilot-to-build-racial-equity-in-americas-roads
11:53 TR Bot; Buttigieg launches $1B pilot to build racial equity in roads : NPR
11:53 DaemonFC; Pete Buttfuck is back to spend money on "racial equality in roads".
11:53 DaemonFC; His last hit was "If you can't afford a gallon of gasoline for your clunker, just buy an EV.".
12:00 TR News; G7 https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/29/g7-and-the-desperation-stage-of-russian-sanctions/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:00 TR Bot; and the Desperation Stage of Russian Sanctions - CounterPunch.org
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12:03 XRevan86; Russian Ministry of Special Military Operation stated that leaving Snake Island is a gesture of good will (just like leaving Kyiv oblast' in March), definitely nothing to do with Ukraine getting long-distance weaponry such as M142 HIMARS.
12:04 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/30/a78153
12:04 TR Bot; Chinas Honor Smartphone Maker Halts Russia Shipments Vedomosti - The Moscow Times
12:05 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico W: your $6 IoT platform - Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-your-6-iot-platform/ Source: raspberrypi
12:05 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico W: your $6 IoT platform - Raspberry Pi
12:06 TR News; All Aboard the mikroBUS https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4794
12:06 TR Bot; Aboard the mikroBUS - News - SparkFun Electronics
12:07 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico W Review: Built-in Wi-Fi Comes to Pico https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-pico-w
12:07 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico W Review: Built-in Wi-Fi Comes to Pico | Tom's Hardware
12:08 TR News; Pine64 Teases RISC-V Based Raspberry Pi Alternative https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pine64-risc-v-sbc-raspberry-pi-alternative
12:08 TR Bot; Pine64 Teases RISC-V Based Raspberry Pi Alternative | Tom's Hardware
12:09 matey; one of the things i dont get about roy is that he says systemd is a problem
12:09 matey; but anytime someone wants to fix it he says it shouldnt be "our" top priority (because we all have the same priorities obviously)
12:10 matey; he knows ibm is a problem, he also realises systemd gives them a major foothold
12:10 matey; its been the better part of a decade, and im still wondering what "OUR" top priority is supposed to be
12:10 matey; i dont believe there is one, funnily enough
12:10 matey; "we" should fight against the takeover of free software. imo.
12:11 matey; systemd is a prominent example of that
12:11 DaemonFC; It basically works I suppose. I mean, I pretty much ignore it.
12:11 matey; so is ibms (again ibm) takeover of gcc, which roy remains in the dark about
12:11 matey; they move to own and control it (synonymous anyway-- if you control it...)
12:11 DaemonFC; The biggest problem with systemd is that it's bloated and springs a lot of security problems.
12:11 DaemonFC; It's so badly written in a rush that nobody bothers to go find any of the bugs and fix them.
12:11 matey; github of course, is another one. but the approach to github seems to be the same
12:12 matey; dont do anything, just wait for people to stop using it
12:12 DaemonFC; And those bugs make it into alleged "enterprise" distributions.
12:12 matey; just wait another year for systemd to get fixed
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12:12 matey; theres no serious evaluation of ANY of the efforts to remove systemd
12:12 matey; only a handwave
12:12 matey; it must be REALLY unimportant
12:12 matey; not just "not our top priority", which i think is a euphamism for "dont bother doing anything at all"
12:13 matey; which is the "solution" thats been promoted for 7 or more years: dont bother
12:13 TR News; 390 - This is the Way(land) - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/06/29/390-this-is-the-wayland/ Source: mintcast
12:13 TR Bot; 390 This is the Way(land) mintCast
12:13 matey; fires burn themselves out. that said, if you call the fire dept, sometimes they can minimise the damage done
12:13 matey; roys solution to the biggest problems in free software always seems to be "itll be burn out on its own"
12:13 TR News; BSD Now 461: Persistent Memory Allocation https://www.bsdnow.tv/461 "Q1 FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report 2022, Nginx on OpenBSD 7.1, Persistent Memory Allocation, Colorize your BSD shell, cgit With Gitolite and Nginx on FreeBSD 13, and more"
12:13 TR Bot; BSD Now 461: Persistent Memory Allocation
12:14 matey; yeah, but itll take the whole goddamned forest with it-- and perhaps even neighbouring cities, like weve seen with wildfires
12:14 matey; so the fact that "ill burn itself out" is really an incredibly disastrous attitude to have towards crises
12:15 matey; its the one techrights always (indirectly) proposes towards the worst things in free software today:
12:15 matey; the coup. github. gcc. systemd
12:15 DaemonFC; Novell was never really as viable as IBM.
12:15 matey; it should be called sit-on-your-fat-arserights
12:15 DaemonFC; They did the Novell-Microsoft deal as a way to raise cash they needed for daily operations.
12:15 matey; the only important thing is telling people something is wrong
12:15 matey; and then when they try to fix it, tell them not to bother
12:16 matey; tell them whats wrong, and then...
12:16 matey; downplay whats wrong by saying its not important enough to be proactive about
12:16 matey; pretending theres some "more important" thing we could be doing-- which seems to be nothing more than
12:16 TR News; LinuxHint going in a bad direction: many articles completely unrelated to GNU/Linux, some even for Microsoft stuff
12:16 matey; "install incresingly fucked up software and just wait for it to magically improve"
12:17 matey; well, no thank you. that wasnt good enough in 2014 and it isnt good enough now.
12:17 matey; and for most people the point of knowing whats wrong is in the hopes that someone TRIES to fix it
12:17 matey; rather than be told "this isnt a priority"
12:17 sp1n; certainly, it magically got only this in the last decade: worse and worse and much worse
12:17 matey; we dont even have to say "#1 priority" because thats not what it means
12:18 matey; it MEANS "not a priority AT ALL"
12:18 matey; if it were a priority at all, every person who intended to try to fix it wouldnt be told "eh, its not SO IMPORTANT"
12:18 sp1n; what are the priorities?
12:18 matey; but install kde and hope for the best
12:18 matey; "what if i want to run a server"
12:18 matey; "you can use kde on a server!"
12:19 matey; "what if i DONT want systemd?"
12:19 sp1n; matey: what are the priorities then?
12:19 matey; "i dont think we will have systemd forever"
12:19 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Ardunio, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166667
12:19 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Ardunio, and More | Tux Machines
12:19 matey; well no, eventually the sun will explode and destroy whats left of the planet
12:20 matey; so we can be pretty sure we wont have systemd "forever" unless we move to another star system
12:20 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, mintCast, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166668
12:20 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, mintCast, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) | Tux Machines
12:20 sp1n; which would it be, the most urgent _technical_ issue of free software?
12:20 matey; someone should have explained this to stallman when he started talking about standing up to non-free software
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12:21 matey; richard, baby, non-free software will be destroyed when the sun engulfs the earth, if not sooner!
12:21 matey; i dont think this needs to be our top priority!
12:21 matey; of course that would be an idiotic response to the idea of free software
12:21 matey; but then thats my point
12:22 matey; the fsf doesnt stand up to non-free software anymore
12:22 matey; it isnt THEIR top priority either, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be ours
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12:22 stupidor; matey: which would it be, the most urgent _technical_ issue of free software?
12:23 matey; stupidor <- shoving guns into nazis mouths and pulling the trigger
12:23 matey; then after that, removing systemd
12:23 matey; /me removes another spambot
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12:24 matey; nazi spambots are the product of OUTSTANDING german engineering
12:25 matey; :) i can actually move to a whitelist, if this inbred krout doesnt get a clue
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12:27 stupidor; don't worry, i keep logfiles save and secure to refresh my memories whenever necessary
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12:27 stupidor; defamation and threats of violence are a severe criminal offense
12:28 matey; if we end up at war with nazis again it will be the same as before
12:29 matey; theyll make progress, overreach, fail to hold what they capture, and get decimated
12:29 matey; theyre a one-trick fighting force, trying to rule the world against its will
12:29 matey; the world will always stomp them to death, and good fucking riddance
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:30 matey; bring on the swinewaffen und sheissewaffen
12:30 matey; fuck them all
12:31 stupidor; so, this is the most urgent technical issue of free software, according to matey
12:32 TR News; "Like todays Intel-AMD duopoly, the market for home computer CPUs in the 1970s and 80s was dominated by two players: Zilog with their Z80" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/hackaday-prize-2022-the-baffatari-2600-adds-atari-compatibility-to-retrocomputers/ | Source: Hackaday
12:32 TR Bot; Prize 2022: The Baffatari 2600 Adds Atari Compatibility To Retrocomputers | Hackaday
12:32 matey; they didnt hang enough of them at nuremberg
12:33 TR News; STM32 https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/bare-metal-stm32-adding-an-analog-touch-with-adcs/ | Source: Hackaday
12:33 TR Bot; STM32: Adding An Analog Touch With ADCs | Hackaday
12:33 matey; next time theyll be lined up against the wall like fish in a barrel
12:34 matey; no more ceremonies, just Your Turn! BANG!
12:34 matey; thump
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; donald thump
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/29/trump_raged_secret_service_january_6 | Source: Democracy Now
12:37 TR Bot; Jan. 6 Bombshell: Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent, Demanded to Join Mob at Capitol | Democracy Now!
12:37 matey; we dont even need term limits
12:38 matey; bad leaders die of old age eventually
12:38 matey; they dont need to be our #1 priority
12:38 MinceR; we don't need term limits, we need anarchism
12:38 TR News; On inflation https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/29/video-ask-prof-wolff-what-the-nytimes-gets-wrong-about-inflation/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:38 TR Bot; Ask Prof Wolff: What the NYTimes Gets Wrong About Inflation scheerpost.com
12:38 matey; anarchism is really the ultimate term limit
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12:38 matey; you get 0 days!
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12:39 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-17-22-7.jpg
12:41 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166669
12:41 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
12:43 TR News; Social control media is a bubble https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/trumps-truth-social-big-payday-may-be-falling-apart/ | Source: Techdirt
12:44 TR Bot; Truth Social Big Payday May Be Falling Apart | Techdirt
12:44 psydroid2; https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shrink/202005/how-america-fell-toxic-individualism
↺ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shrink/202005/how-america-fell-toxic-individualism
12:44 TR Bot; How America Fell into Toxic Individualism | Psychology Today
12:44 matey; psychologytoday is a piece of shit
12:44 matey; they compare autistic kids to dogs
12:45 MinceR; dogs, humans... what's the difference?
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; who does this insult, the kids?
12:45 matey; toxic-individualism <- blame the people for a corrupt leadership
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: when humans act more like dogs, many problems will go away
12:46 MinceR; not really
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; individualism is good
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; "Toxic" is essubjective
12:46 MinceR; maybe the pointless destructiveness will be less hidden
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; some people will call you "toxic"
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's subjective
12:46 MinceR; there's nothing individualist about what corrupted pack animals do
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; like "toxic masculinity"
12:46 MinceR; yeah, SJWs call everyone they don't agree with "toxic"
12:46 MinceR; who cares?
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; as if manly behaviour is toxicity
12:46 matey; some people will call you "toxic" <- its easier to write than "problematic"
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; and men should start acting like women or seomthing
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; what a "toxic" channel
12:47 matey; /me considers "toxic masculinity" more an overpronounced fear of anything remotely feminine, but its not universal among men and i fucking hate the term anyway
12:49 matey; its a term that lends itself readily to worse (dumber) overgeneralisations
12:49 matey; even if it was more specific to begin with
12:49 matey; (if)
12:50 *schestowitz[TR] is now known as nastywomantoxicman
12:51 psydroid2; I never see "toxic" mentioned outside of the US sphere of culture, but maybe I'm not paying attention
12:52 matey; its because americans dont care much about actual pollution
12:52 matey; so they look for proxy forms of it to poke at with a stick
12:52 matey; /me made it up but it sounds plausible
12:53 TR News; "How can a few grams of battery, geared motor, and some nifty materials get a jumping robot over 30 meters into the air?" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/record-setting-jumper-tosses-biomimicry-out-the-window/ | Source: Hackaday
12:53 TR Bot; Jumper Tosses Biomimicry Out The Window | Hackaday
12:55 matey; you could also throw in psychopathy but im against formally gendering such things
12:55 matey; psychopathy isnt a gender trait
12:55 matey; informally gendering such things is going to happen "women are crazy" "men are dicks"
12:56 matey; when it tries to make its way into the dsm and the icd then its an issue
12:56 matey; they should just call it "male hysteria" then its fair play
12:57 matey; plus theres a wonderful cure
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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13:02 matey; toxicity is a thing of course
13:02 matey; its an anything-goes way to refer to people with serious personality disorders
13:02 MinceR; it's also a map for xonotic
13:02 matey; if people talked about actual personality disorders that would probably be more useful
13:03 matey; but its harder to start a mob that way
13:03 MinceR; the way people do it, it's usually not useful at all
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13:03 TR News; Emacs Basics gemini://idiomdrottning.org/emacs-basics
13:03 matey; mobs are rarely useful, at least in the sense that they are used by the mob itself
13:03 matey; theyre great for destroying nice things we used to have
13:03 schestowitz; Emacs Basics gemini://idiomdrottning.org/emacs-basics
13:04 MinceR; e.g. someone with no relevant knowledge randomly diagnosing someone with something over text only chat
13:04 schestowitz; "Whenever someone uses the term "trickle-down" in a performative (usually economic) sense it invokes a feeling of warm apathy, like a high profile politician promising the passive benefits of his high nutrient diet as he smiles and pisses against your leg.
13:04 schestowitz; " gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1049
13:04 matey; i dont want to make it sound like i think every riot is necessarily the worst thing that could happen
13:04 matey; but a mob has no idea wtf its doing
13:04 MinceR; humans generally have no idea what they're doing
13:04 MinceR; that's why human society "works" the way it does
13:04 matey; "Whenever someone uses the term "trickle-down" in a performative (usually economic) sense it invokes a feeling of warm apathy, like a high profile politician promising the passive benefits of his high nutrient diet as he smiles and pisses against your leg."
13:05 matey; trickledown systemd
13:05 MinceR; that's more of a force-feeding situation
13:05 matey; i was thinking about the solution though
13:05 MinceR; "we will make you use systemd and you will love it!"
13:05 matey; and how it will trickledown eventually
13:05 MinceR; the solution is extinction
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13:06 matey; systemd-bohicad
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13:06 TR News; Learning gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-06-30_Learning.gmi
13:10 TR News; "The world can be an awful, horrible place. Lately, it feels like, in America, things are only getting more difficult." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/how-the-internet-enabled-a-mariners-fan-and-doordash-driver-to-connect-and-do-something-cool/ | Source: Techdirt
13:10 TR Bot; The Internet Enabled A Mariners Fan And DoorDash Driver To Connect And Do Something Cool | Techdirt
13:11 TR News; "The terrible, awful, no good, horrible plans to regulate the internet keep coming faster and furiouser these days." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/please-take-a-moment-to-celebrate-how-a-very-different-supreme-court-saved-the-internet-25-years-ago/ | Source: Techdirt
13:11 TR Bot; Take A Moment To Celebrate How A Very Different Supreme Court Saved The Internet 25 Years Ago | Techdirt
13:12 stupidor; the systemd problem is easily solved
13:12 stupidor; what's impossible to repair is the wrongoing of FSF/GNU with: GCC
13:12 stupidor; wrongdoing of FSF/GNU
13:20 DaemonFC; <matey> bring on the swinewaffen und sheissewaffen
13:20 DaemonFC; I need my glasses.
13:20 DaemonFC; I read that as swine waffle.
13:20 DaemonFC; That's my favorite thing at Dennys! How did you know?
13:25 TR News; Links 30/06/2022: Pine64 Has RISC-V-Based Raspberry Pi Rival, Pico W Introduced | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/pico-w-introduced/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/pico-w-introduced/
13:25 TR Bot; Links 30/06/2022: Pine64 Has RISC-V-Based Raspberry Pi Rival, Pico W Introduced | Techrights
13:26 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166670
13:26 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:26 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166671
13:26 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:26 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166672
13:26 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166672
13:26 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
13:27 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166672
13:28 *toxictoxicity is now known as schestowitz[TR]
13:28 psydroid2; toxic swine waffles
13:28 psydroid2; https://eeb.org/the-great-detox-largest-ever-ban-of-toxic-chemicals-announced-by-eu/
13:28 TR Bot; The great detox - largest ever ban of toxic chemicals announced by EU
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13:30 MinceR; blue waffles
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13:31 matey; debian is kind of the trickle down distro (or pistro if you like)
13:32 matey; whenever they do to destroy it trickles downstream
13:32 TR News; "Id like to thank Beelink for providing the MINI S for review." 'Reviews'... for gifts... pushing WINDOWS (malware) machines as "Linux". "The Beelink MINI S came installed with a licensed copy of Windows 11 Pro" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/30/beelink-mini-s-review-low-cost-mini-pc-ubuntu-22-04-windows-11/
13:32 TR Bot; Beelink MINI S Review - A Low-cost mini PC tested with Ubuntu 22.04 and Windows 11 - CNX Software
13:32 matey; or it starts as a trickle, then it sort of comes in large painful gushes
13:32 matey; or diarrhebian
13:33 matey; if it was still just a trickle, it wouldnt be so much for devuan to mop up
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13:34 matey; https://eeb.org/the-great-detox-largest-ever-ban-of-toxic-chemicals <- first its the chemicals, then theyll ban masculinity
13:34 matey; id think that was an overreaction, but they already force you to register pointed sticks
13:35 psydroid2; they need push Windows because of what is happening in the market
13:35 psydroid2; https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/337500-asus-gigabyte-project-weaker-sales-as-gpu-bundles-no-longer-possible
13:35 TR Bot; Gigabyte Project Weaker Sales as Consumers Reject GPU Bundles - ExtremeTech
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13:35 psydroid2; 25% fewer sales than last year
13:35 psydroid2; lol
13:36 psydroid2; all toxicity must be outlawed and then we'll have perfect societies
13:37 MinceR; have they banned DHMO and E948 yet?
13:37 *SomeH4xx is now known as SomeH4x0r
13:37 matey; "pointed sticks may be no longer than 20cm in length and 8mm in diametre"
13:37 TR News; With help from Microsoft operatives in ZDNet (Tung), anti-Linux FUD is being broadcast and the issue isn't Linux itself but some malware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34194
13:37 TR Bot; Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
13:37 matey; have they banned DHMO <- no but it IS a controlled substance
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13:39 matey; weaker-sales-as-gpu-bundles-no-longer-possible <- why arent gpu bundles possible?
13:40 matey; <MinceR> have they banned DHMO and E948 yet? <- a blacklist is really the wrong approach anyway
13:40 TR News; Microsoft FUD against Linux again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34195
13:40 TR Bot; Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
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13:41 matey; spain is going to start with a whitelist that only allows organic beets in the first year
13:41 matey; if youre hungry, eat some beets
13:41 TR News; Microsoft hates Linux. Anything else is a lie. There's evidence of that, too.
13:41 MinceR; organic beets contain DHMO
13:41 MinceR; and most likely they also contain ethanol and methanol
13:41 MinceR; and inorganic beets don't exist
13:41 matey; theyre working on a process to remove all those
13:42 matey; so i think powdered organic beets are going to be huge pretty soon
13:43 psydroid2; they were bundling GPUs with motherboards and even whole systems as a vendor lock-in measure, because GPUs were scarce and very expensive
13:44 psydroid2; now they can't get away with that anymore and people don't buy things they don't need or already bought during the first two years of the pandemic
13:44 matey; a group calling themselves "friends of toxicity" has asked the government if theyre going to ban the earth itself, because it actually contains a shitload of toxins
13:45 matey; theres been no word about the construction of a government building / military base on luna.
13:45 TR News; EPC is routinely violated by the EPO, so it has just pushed this "UPDATE" on the thing it is VIOLATING https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/national-law.html
13:45 TR Bot; EPO - National law relating to the EPC
13:45 matey; ultimately they may have to ban the universe itself based on the number of unbreatheable gasses and heavy metals
13:46 matey; but we can just make a new one, so theres no problem there
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13:47 matey; presumably the new ban means inspection checkpoints outside of stores, homes and restaurants
13:47 matey; otherwise it will be too easy to get around
13:48 matey; some people might think it excessive to have customers officers outside their own home
13:48 matey; customs
13:48 matey; but this is the price we pay for a cleaner world
13:49 matey; no word if ibm is going to relinquish its stockpile of zyklon b
13:49 stupidor; schestowitz:
13:50 stupidor; if anyone wonders why i'll leave
13:50 matey; herr doktor isnt interested, he said he wants nothing to do with it because it now also contains zyklon c++
13:50 matey; which is a stupider, less effective form of the poison
13:51 matey; also now the canisters weigh 5 times as much
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13:53 TR News; Thunderbird 102: A compelling facelift http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166599#comment-34196
13:53 TR Bot; Mozilla Thunderbird 102 Released with New Address Book, Import/Export Wizard | Tux Machines
13:53 MinceR; the moon probably also contains a shitload of toxins
13:54 TR News; Why not Facebook and LinkedIn (Microsoft) as well? https://www.maketecheasier.com/fcc-tiktok-ban-apple-google/
13:54 TR Bot; FCC Urges Apple and Google to Ban TikTok as Security Threat - Make Tech Easier
13:55 TR News; Vim 9.0 is Available on Arch Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34197
13:55 TR Bot; Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; toxic https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/29/toxic_interaction_github_open_source/
13:56 TR Bot; 'Toxic' open source GitHub discussions analyzed in study The Register
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; "/toxic_interaction_github_open_source/"
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; Micerosoft
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; is toxic
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's also criminal
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; crimes OK
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; don't be "toxic" though
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; do it with "sty;e"
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; IBM: profits from death camps
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; moans about some comments about IBM being "toxic"
13:57 TR News; WTF? https://linuxhint.com/how-to-mount-a-laptop-to-a-wall/
13:57 TR Bot; How to Mount a Laptop to a Wall
13:58 matey; if only there was a solution to these corporations taking over
13:59 matey; other than just waiting for them to die over several decades
14:00 psydroid2; such as intoxicating them?
14:00 matey; IBM: profits from death camps <- moans about some comments about IBM being "toxic" <- pychopaths have zero empathy, none, but theyre also full of themselves and cant tolerate people questioning their supreme nature
14:01 matey; such as intoxicating them? <- thats a very russian solution
14:01 matey; it probably worked on stalin though
14:01 matey; "well, hes dead"
14:02 TR News; [PULL] drm-intel-gt-next https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2022-June/362063.html Source: kernel
14:02 TR Bot; [PULL] drm-intel-gt-next
14:03 matey; on the one hand, theres so much progress that can come out of unions "taking over" the running of these companies
14:03 matey; theres a lot of progress being made-- real progress, even
14:03 TR News; CIC orders MeitY to respond to IFF's RTI seeking information on Non-Personal Data Governance Framework Policy-Process https://internetfreedom.in/cic-orders-meity-to-respond-to-iffs-rti-seeking-information-on-non-personal-data-governance-framework-policy-process/
14:03 TR Bot; CIC orders MeitY to respond to IFF's RTI seeking information on Non-Personal Data Governance Framework Policy-Process
14:03 matey; slowly, but not in a bullshit way
14:03 matey; of course theres always bullshit. and once you account for that, whatever is left over is not-bullshit
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14:04 matey; brb
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14:04 schestowitz[TR]; hi michael
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; michael, put political stuff in techpol
14:04 schestowitz[TR]; and there will be less conflict
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14:05 matey; the weakness of unions as a force for free software couldnt be more straightforward
14:05 matey; the fsf has no power to change shit.
14:06 matey; the unions have mostly untapped power, in quantities most people cant imagine (potentially)
14:06 matey; at least as much change has come from unions as the fsf (which lobbies for a specific kind of reform)
14:06 matey; (and has failed for nearly a decade straight or more)
14:07 matey; unions dont even need to be working perfectly or led perfectly to do their job
14:07 matey; the workers fight for progress-- and the leaders often capitulate to corporations
14:07 matey; but unlike with the fsf, where the leader capitulates and the workers demand LESS progress, rather than more
14:08 TR News; "Thanks to an anonymous benefactor for donating a few of these for this months Ware. The board itself is a bit sparse, but, there are some hefty clues regardless. I think theres a good chance someone will guess it from this image alone." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6435
14:08 TR Bot; Name that Ware, June 2022 bunnie's blog
14:08 matey; the leader tries to play negotiator and if they fail enough, they are replaced with a STRONGER leader, not a weaker one
14:08 matey; so clearly, a union is a a good model for a future fsf replacement
14:08 matey; but wait
14:08 matey; unions in general could add the 4 freedoms to their lists of demands and what they fight for
14:09 matey; and then youd have the power of unions PLUS the concept of free software
14:09 matey; the fsf has the concept but does nothing.
14:09 matey; the unions actually do something but they lack the concept for the most part
14:09 matey; so giving the idea of free software to unions, IF possible, would reboot the movement
14:09 thisideup; union are ruled by the mob
14:10 matey; youd have to make the argument that user rights are worker rights
14:10 matey; but user rights ARE worker rights. you still have to make the argument
14:10 matey; imo youre better off selling free software as an idea to unions than you are buying water bottles from the fsf and supporting toxicplanet
14:11 thisideup; im on strike im using linux!
14:11 matey; maybe it wont work, but its an idea worth exploring
14:11 matey; the fsf is already obsolete. if unions cared about free software (IF) the fsf would be even more useless
14:11 matey; (and thats a tall order really-- for the fsf to be even more useless)
14:12 thisideup; ubuntu unity got dumped for gnome
14:13 matey; imo unions are more powerful than little 501c3s like the fsf (particularly these days, when they all end up infiltrated by corporations)
14:13 matey; and they have a stronger connection to their base than fake political parties
14:14 matey; but the coolest thing about them is that when things go to shit at the very top
14:14 matey; they just remove the top and REPLACE it with something better
14:14 thisideup; unions in the usa was rulled by the mob
14:14 matey; the coup did the fucking opposite
14:14 matey; it removed the leader and founder and replaced him with--
14:15 matey; they might have well put toby from the office in charge
14:15 matey; i mean hes just keeping the seat warm for someone from gnome to come in and take it
14:15 matey; the next fsf president will be someone from the coup, guaranteed
14:16 matey; guix, gnome? debian? red hat? (not oliva) who knows
14:16 thisideup; after 2ww the mob become an armed branch of the special forces
14:16 matey; or maybe lea h will be right and it will be greg, but that doesnt matter
14:16 matey; either way, the fsf will continue its trajectory
14:16 thisideup; thats how they stormed the capitol
14:17 matey; it isnt going to turn around, and people arent going to force it to turn around
14:17 matey; those people are STILL silenced by the fsf
14:17 matey; including stallman (who likely doesnt have much to say, but should at least be allowed to say it)
14:17 thisideup; and killed kenndy and killed kennedy assassin
14:17 TR News; ...now eON and maybe other energy providers in the UK started nagging people over the telephone, not just email and snail mail, over stupid "smart" (spy) meters. They also like to pretend it's almost compulsory and try to blame "The government". Crooks.
14:17 matey; it IS hard to tell if he has much to say when we know hes silenced
14:18 matey; but we have years of data on this that can help us guess
14:18 matey; the idea of him being unsilenced at this point is purely hypothetical anyway
14:19 matey; even the supportstallman website, which is wonderful really, has no plan to glean what the "real stallman" wants and then fight for it
14:19 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166673
14:19 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
14:19 matey; they "only" protect his legacy, in the sense of standing against the mob
14:19 matey; which is way better than nothing
14:20 matey; its not enough to save free software, but it helps because the attacks on stallman made software freedom even harder to fight for (by design)
14:20 matey; that was the point
14:20 TR News; The Basics of Coding and Programming That You Need to Know https://www.makeuseof.com/coding-and-programming-basics/ Source: makeuseof
14:20 TR Bot; The Basics of Coding and Programming That You Need to Know
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14:20 matey; if they stand up for his legacy, someone else can fight for the cause he founded.
14:21 matey; itd be nice if they did both of course, but i guarantee there are people willing to stand up for him that have no idea how to save free software
14:21 matey; they might as well do what theyre good at
14:21 matey; and then if you look at some projects outside the scope of supportstallman
14:21 thisideup; they did the samething to linus
14:22 matey; there are at least a couple people fighting other battles on other fronts
14:22 matey; i mean theres overlap
14:23 matey; but imo there isnt a lot
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14:23 thisideup; google will fight for opensource
14:24 matey; back when the fsf stood for anything, they learned that hard way that if you stand for something, it pisses people off
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14:24 matey; the new people havent learned-- probably never will learn, or simply dont care--
14:24 TR News; Blocking web-page adverts in a container https://bkhome.org/news/202206/blocking-web-page-adverts-in-a-container.html Source: bkhome
14:24 TR Bot; Blocking web-page adverts in a container
14:24 matey; if your first priority is to not piss people off
14:25 matey; ultimately you wont be standing for anything either
14:25 TR News; PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 Released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166674
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14:25 matey; theyre looking for an inoffensive way to say that user rights matter more than the right of anyone to have a monopoly on software.
14:25 matey; you cant say that without pissing off people who want a monopoly on software.
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14:26 matey; it doesnt matter HOW you say it, its going to piss them off if its clear enough for anyone to know what youre saying
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14:26 thisideup; they want a monopoly on peoples lifes
14:26 matey; try and find a way to say youre against the right to an abortion-- without pissing off people fighting for that right
14:27 TR News; Quad Cortex-A55 @2.2GHz; ARM Mali-G57 GPU https://linuxgizmos.com/vecow-introduces-som-line-based-on-mediatek-genio-1200-500-350/
14:27 matey; its impossible
14:27 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/vecow-introduces-som-line-based-on-mediatek-genio-1200-500-350/ )
14:27 matey; (im pro choice, and very pissed off about that)
14:28 matey; try and find a way to say you support putlin without pissing off half the planet
14:29 matey; free software cant frame free software in a way that doesnt piss off monopolists.
14:29 schestowitz[TR]; true
14:29 matey; the more it tries, the more it becomes open source.
14:29 schestowitz[TR]; it should not try to appease, either
14:30 matey; and not appeasing should go beyond mere critique
14:30 matey; there should be EFFORTS (beyond talk) to undo their bullshit
14:30 matey; if all you want to is to say "software should be free"
14:30 matey; the fsf has that covered
14:30 matey; they used to do more.
14:30 matey; now they outsource
14:30 matey; marketing, software development, hosting, even leadership
14:31 matey; going the same route that osi did before osi went belly-up
14:31 matey; opening everything up to corporations
14:31 matey; holding the door for them
14:31 matey; but they always SAY how important free software is, oh yes
14:31 matey; they just dont act like it
14:31 matey; and like i just said, even when they say it
14:31 TR News; Programming/Development Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166675
14:31 TR Bot; Programming/Development Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:32 matey; theyre looking for some way to stand for it while-- as you said-- appeasing
14:32 matey; (you didnt say they were appeasing but you used the word. im saying theyre appeasing)
14:32 matey; even esr wasnt so coy, even when he was useless.
14:33 matey; he said he was standing up to microsoft-- even when he gave them the perfect vehicle with which to put the fsf out of commission
14:33 TR News; Replace "Update Chrome OS" with "Update the OS" (put proper GNU/Linux on it!) https://linuxhint.com/why-is-my-chromebook-so-slow/
14:33 TR Bot; Why is my Chromebook so slow?
14:33 matey; (but i think it was stupidity caused by ego)
14:33 matey; some people are deliberate collaborators-- they deserve to be called that
14:34 matey; i dont think esr was directly involved with the coup
14:34 matey; at the same time, he was one of its architects
14:34 matey; i dont think esr was directly involved with the coup <- id LOVE to get my hands on proof to the contrary. i simply dont think thats what happened.
14:35 TR News; ICBM cites Gartner as an authority. Gartner is a bribed shill and liar. A bunch of crooks and charlatans, but ICBM uses them for marketing along with Microsoft https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/cios-hold-teams-accountable http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
14:35 TR Bot; 3 ways CIOs should approach IT team accountability | The Enterprisers Project
14:35 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
14:35 matey; the coup was a product of work done by esr AND microsoft (among others)
14:35 matey; once again, i attribute this to esrs damning incompetence
14:36 TR News; ICBM: we've fired like 100,000 of OUR OWN engineers, now we moan "companies are facing [issue] due to the talent shortage." ICBM = "liars 100% of the time" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/it-hiring-5-challenges-emerging-technologies
14:36 matey; not technical incompetence-- politically, hes a fucking idiot
14:36 TR Bot; IT hiring: 5 challenges with emerging technologies | The Enterprisers Project
14:36 matey; he helped create osi, which became an attack vehicle for corporations to use against free software
14:36 matey; he played a role in this, i think non-deliberately
14:37 matey; he had, to put it nicely, "a better idea"
14:37 matey; oh, it wasnt a better idea
14:37 matey; it was a fucking stupid idea
14:37 matey; like stalins relationship with hitler
14:37 matey; "dont shoot, youll only provoke them! let them kill you!"
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14:38 matey; stalin was maybe the most idiotic leader that ever lived
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14:38 matey; hes in the running at least
14:38 TR News; What we should all hate about the WWW is -h-- like this: https://kifarunix.com/what-are-the-benefits-of-using-a-password-management-for-your-business/ the site typically covers UNIX/Linux and this is meant to look like just another "article", but it's SEO SPAM. Topic, links, pure BS!!!
14:38 TR Bot; are the Benefits Of Using a Password Management For Your Business - kifarunix.com
14:38 matey; and putlin must think hes him
14:38 matey; or maybe even better!
14:39 TR News; Another new example of SEO webspam in what is OTHERWISE a real blog. They get paid to plug in spam and push that to readers without disclosing that it's SPAM. https://medevel.com/6-tools-to-manage-revenue-fluctuations-in-business/
14:39 TR Bot; 6 Tools To Manage Revenue Fluctuations In Business
14:41 matey; im not as hard on stallman as i am on esr or torvalds
14:41 matey; torvalds was a nasty shill-- just a little at first
14:41 matey; then on and on for more than 20 years
14:41 TR News; A spy meter ("smart" meter) does not lower energy bills. A spy meter needs energy to run, so it does the exact opposite. But it saves greedy companies the need to send a person to take readings... plus it gives them data about you... to SELL. Don't surrender to this scam.
14:41 matey; people PROJECTED stallmans ideas, intentions and accomplishments onto torvalds
14:42 matey; while torvalds had a corporate dick sucking contest (but even HE had standards... gkh is not better)
14:42 TR News; The WWW is, IME, moving from about 80% webspam and PR noise to over 90%. Soon the Web will be almost nothing but bloat and spam... and social [sic] control 'media'...
14:42 matey; torvalds, BASICALLY software jesus, folded under pressure before rms did
14:42 schestowitz[TR]; matey: torvalds comes from a socialist home
14:42 schestowitz[TR]; he is sympathetic to that, still
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; when e attacks FSF and RMS he
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; 1) does what's nowadays called "viortue signalling"
14:43 matey; well hes a worthless socialist then
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; to signal his lotalty to the corporations
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; it won't surffice
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; we saw in 2018
14:43 matey; i mean even if linus is "
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; 2) he changes history
14:43 matey; socialist" LINUX is capitalist
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; he wants to remove RMS
14:43 matey; 2) he changes history <- only shit socialists do that
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; while admitting GNU GCC and GPL weree needed for his success
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; FSF is just an org
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; not so rleevant to him
14:44 matey; he wants to remove RMS <- like i said, worthless socialist then
14:44 thisideup; RMS is a socialist
14:44 matey; anyway, point is, rms stood for longer than linus and esr
14:44 matey; both linus and esr were "folding" 20 years ago
14:44 matey; rms put up a fight MOST of us couldnt
14:44 matey; so credit where credit is due
14:45 matey; that doesnt extend to pretending hes got anything else in him
14:45 matey; he doesnt
14:45 matey; thats very important, not as a critique, but strategically
14:45 matey; stallman cannot, will not (ever) save us
14:45 matey; he did enough of course. he would be WELCOME to do more (imo-- not in everyones o)
14:45 matey; but its never going to happen
14:46 matey; people waiting for it are fooling themselves-- strategically speaking, thats suicide
14:46 matey; they might as well wait for jesus himself
14:46 matey; /me checks the calendar
14:46 matey; any day now?
14:46 matey; well, give it another 1000 years
14:47 matey; stallman has left it up to a defunct fsf
14:47 thisideup; ill just wait for Christ then
14:47 matey; per the advice of his "friends" and colleagues
14:47 matey; who are either idiots, or worse
14:48 matey; the fsf, like open source, has left the reform of corporations up to the corporations themselves
14:48 thisideup; matey will you ever shutup?
14:48 matey; foxes are EXCELLENT henhouse guards
14:49 matey; they make videos about how important it is to have hens and protect them and stand up for them
14:49 matey; then they put foxes in charge of the henhouse
14:49 matey; it gives a very clear impression of what the videos are about
14:49 matey; bullshit, to put it simply
14:50 matey; ive been saying for years now-- this is NOT unique in a 501c3
14:50 matey; it goes from being about a cause to being about MONEY and MESSAGING
14:50 matey; from the cause itself to "awareness"
14:50 thisideup; stfu spambot
14:50 matey; at some point they throw out the cause itself, for PROMOTING the cause
14:51 matey; for marketing.
14:51 matey; and its redundant-- microsoft can tell you all day that its VERY important for you to control your computing
14:51 matey; and then they take over your computer. they just say that youre in charge.
14:51 matey; microsoft can do that-- its equally useful when the fsf does the same thing.
14:52 matey; something important happens when you throw the cause itself out for MARKETING
14:52 matey; more people are willing to throw money at your "cause" (messaging)
14:52 matey; and then! you can THANK them in public
14:52 matey; and now youre basically advertising for microsoft
14:53 matey; only now, its tax-deductible.
14:53 matey; what megacorp could possibly be against such a scheme?
14:53 matey; and thats why they push for it
14:53 matey; what did someone call it?
14:53 matey; non-profit capture?
14:54 matey; like regulatory capture, but of non-profits?
14:54 matey; and this is typical of orgs like the fsf
14:54 matey; they have a good run-- then they do exactly this
14:54 matey; then they become a mouthpiece for the very companies who they used to stand against
14:54 matey; what the fsf is doing is LEGALISED FRAUD
14:55 matey; its corrupt
14:55 matey; defunct
14:55 matey; traitorous
14:55 matey; but above all, bullshit
14:56 matey; sfc is worse, because they helped make this happen
14:56 matey; but that doesnt mean the fsf isnt traitorous too
14:56 matey; they both betrayed the movement, their members, the founder and their history and cause.
14:56 thisideup; stfu asshole
14:56 TR News; Going Increasingly Dark (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When Its Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/covid-19-patients-in-hospital/
14:56 TR Bot; Blog Archive Going Increasingly Dark (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When Its Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record)
14:57 matey; they ought to be treated accordingly
14:57 matey; but that will certainly take a while
14:57 matey; they have microsoft and ibm propping them up (not directly, ibm pulled funding)
14:57 matey; ibm STILL props up the fsf though
14:57 matey; in ways even you can figure out
14:57 *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights
14:57 matey; only so they can "liberate" gcc (that is, make it their own)
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14:58 thisideup; stfu asshole go to the trump supporters channel
14:58 matey; "liberate" in the iraq war sense
14:58 matey; like ukraine is being liberated now
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
15:00 matey; id think it would be silly for ibm to bother owning gcc of course
15:00 matey; just like they would never bother purchasing red hat
15:00 matey; oh
15:00 matey; 2 out of 3 huh?
15:01 matey; ibm was interested enough in gcc to work on it for years, before liberating it
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; <thisideup> stfu asshole go to the trump supporters channel
15:01 matey; i sure putlin was also invested heavily in ukraine
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; I don't understand this remark
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; michael you set uup your own channel
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; #techpol
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; which you later abandoned
15:01 schestowitz[TR]; because nobody really agreed with your nazi-sympathetic views
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, I wait for july 2nd
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; that's when we get some july numbers from russia
15:02 chunky; damn that guy was being very rude!
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; on OS usage online
15:02 chunky; i don't approve of that!
15:02 XRevan86; activelow is Michael?
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; maybe lots of people have moved to gnu/linux there this month
15:02 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: many nyms are him
15:03 matey; putlin is fooling himself
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; he must have used nearly 10 names already
15:03 matey; if he thinks he can avoid microsoft and other evil western corporations
15:03 matey; by switching to gnu/linux
15:03 schestowitz[TR]; because when people see a person with such views walking into a pub they move away
15:03 matey; thats like avoiding putlins megalomatic bullshit by moving to ukraine!
15:03 chunky; do you think stallman was paid to act manically and sabotage his own free software movement?
15:03 thisideup; YES
15:03 matey; a nazi walks into a bar...
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; wunderbar!
15:04 matey; haha
15:04 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderbar
15:04 TR Bot; Wunderbar - Wikipedia
15:04 thisideup; what funny about that?
15:05 chunky; does anyone see my chattings?
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-kk65epNc98
15:05 TR Bot; ET - Wolfenstein: ENEMY TERRITORY Triple Kills of a returning player... WUNDERBAAAR !!! - Invidious
15:05 matey; he must have used nearly 10 names already <- i think its more
15:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wure5mTY_0c
15:05 matey; like 5 at least in the past 48 hours
15:05 TR Bot; Wunderbar - Invidious
15:05 thisideup; who?
15:05 matey; he is accellerating though. maybe hes going for 6 million
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; shoes?
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; ther might be 12 million
15:06 matey; i saw the shoes
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; but you know they like to lessen the number
15:06 matey; i dont think there were 6 million shoes
15:06 matey; there were more than enough to make the point though
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/30/rodrigo-duterte-vows-to-kill-3-million-drug-addicts-and-likens-himself-to-hitler
15:06 TR Bot; Rodrigo Duterte vows to kill 3 million drug addicts and likens himself to Hitler | Philippines | The Guardian
15:06 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/01/world/asia/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-hitler-drugs.html
15:06 TR Bot; Duterte, Citing Hitler, Says He Wants to Kill 3 Million Addicts in Philippines - The New York Times
15:07 matey; /rodrigo-duterte-vows-to-kill-3-million-drug-addicts-and-likens-himself-to-hitler <- what a charming fellow, do you think he will head the epo later?
15:07 thisideup; hitler used drugs
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37515642
15:07 TR Bot; Jewish leaders react to Rodrigo Duterte Holocaust remarks - BBC News
15:07 chunky; are there any actual humans here?
15:07 schestowitz[TR]; "Hitler massacred three million Jews"
15:08 matey; /me facepalms
15:08 thisideup; i think it was more
15:08 matey; the world must love an idiot
15:08 thisideup; hitler army used methanpjetamine
15:08 matey; (so many examples)
15:08 thisideup; so did hitler
15:09 matey; is a mass extermination programme technically a masscre?
15:09 matey; maybe its a nitpick, im actually curious though
15:09 thisideup; matey you are an idiot
15:10 matey; is it a war too? is it a special military operation? i dont know
15:10 thisideup; only if you do it in rust
15:10 matey; its a war, its a special military operation-- its a war, its a special military operation
15:10 matey; its two mints in one!
15:11 TR News; Introducing PyScript [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/898452/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux
15:11 TR Bot; PyScript [LWN.net]
15:11 matey; "at noahs arcade we have two of every game so you dont have to wait-- thats two for you, cause one wont do!"
15:12 TR News; Fedora, FFmpeg, Firefox, Flatpak, and Fusion [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/897793/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | ICBM | Red Hat
15:12 TR Bot; FFmpeg, Firefox, Flatpak, and Fusion [LWN.net]
15:13 schestowitz[TR]; "Operation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa
15:13 TR Bot; Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia
15:14 schestowitz[TR]; 5.9 million killed
15:14 schestowitz[TR]; 4.9 Soviets
15:14 schestowitz[TR]; so when Putiin says operation it doesn't mean bomb here, bomb there
15:14 schestowitz[TR]; it means the "full monty"
15:14 schestowitz[TR]; it's easier one nation at at a time
15:15 schestowitz[TR]; he already has belarus... without bullets fired
15:15 thisideup; he used to have the usa too
15:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Otto
15:16 TR Bot; Operation Otto - Wikipedia
15:17 schestowitz[TR]; "The Nazis deliberately starved to death or otherwise killed 3.3 million Soviet prisoners of war, and millions of civilians, as the "Hunger Plan" worked to solve German food shortages and exterminate the Slavic population through starvation."
15:17 thisideup; nowdays its easy to improve on those numbers
15:18 schestowitz[TR]; They stiill ukraine
15:18 schestowitz[TR]; and they're still at it
15:18 schestowitz[TR]; "The failure of Operation Barbarossa reversed the fortunes of Nazi Germany.[32] Operationally, German forces achieved significant victories and occupied some of the most important economic areas of the Soviet Union (mainly in Ukraine) and inflicted, as well as sustained, heavy casualties. "
15:18 thisideup; we have to thank the nazis for the new weapons of war
15:19 thisideup; they was working on the nuclear bomb and already had the rockets to deliver
15:20 thisideup; then all that smart "cientists" got nicked by the soperpowers
15:20 thisideup; so hitler must be having a laugh from the beyond
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15:23 schestowitz[TR]; nuclear bombs get drropped
15:23 schestowitz[TR]; and you can denotae them some other way
15:23 schestowitz[TR]; no need for germany rocket "scientists"
15:24 schestowitz[TR]; *german
15:24 TR News; #HowTo fix file size limit exceeded Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166676
15:24 TR Bot; How to fix file size limit exceeded | Tux Machines
15:25 thisideup; nuclear come from german scientists
15:25 thisideup; they was on the brink of makinf nuclear bombs
15:25 TR News; "Join the FSF and friends Friday, July 1, from 12:00 to 15:00 EDT (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) to help improve the Free Software Directory." http://www.fsf.org/events/free-software-directory-on-irc-friday-july-1-starting-at-12-00-edt-16-00-utc
15:25 TR Bot; Free Software Directory on IRC: Friday, July 1 starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
15:26 TR News; Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166677 give up taking bribes from Microsoft, SFC....
15:26 TR Bot; Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! | Tux Machines
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; thisideup: no
15:26 schestowitz[TR]; unless you count people who mescaped germany
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; germany was beated to it by years
15:27 thisideup; https://www.rbth.com/history/328489-german-scientists-who-helped-to-create-soviet-bomb
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; come on, michael, study history
15:27 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; heisenberg lost the war for "the bomb"
15:27 thisideup; what mivjel?
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; you
15:27 schestowitz[TR]; I'd not use your real name
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; if you had not used like 10 sockpuppets
15:28 schestowitz[TR]; we just need a way to keep track
15:28 thisideup; wasn't einstein german
15:28 thisideup; he did study in germany
15:29 TR News; KDE neon 20220630 is out. It's what I use here. https://neon.kde.org/
15:29 TR Bot; KDE neon
15:29 schestowitz[TR]; he left
15:29 schestowitz[TR]; his country became shitty
15:29 thisideup; THATS NOT THE POINT
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:30 TR News; SmartOS 20220630 is also out. https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
15:30 TR Bot; SmartOS | Joyent
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; operation paperclip alsop
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; germany lost many scientists
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; they didn't stay
15:31 thisideup; all that knowledge came from germany
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; the brain drain continues to this day
15:31 schestowitz[TR]; because of people there who still miss hitler
15:31 TR News; The pre-book learning stage and awk gemini://sotiris.papatheodorou.xyz/gemlog/20220630_the_pre_book_learning_stage_and_awk.gmi
15:32 thisideup; at least hitler made sure germany lost the wat
15:32 thisideup; war
15:32 thisideup; with his dumbass decisions
15:33 thisideup; playing with military maps
15:35 thisideup; the brain drain continues to this day
15:35 thisideup; because of people there who still miss hitler ?
15:35 thisideup; what does that mean?
15:35 XRevan86; Putin is also playing with military maps.
15:36 thisideup; hes speciallity is counter information
15:36 thisideup; kgb
15:36 thisideup; probablly leaves the war to the experts
15:37 thisideup; like that genral that was in sirya
15:37 *matey (~matey@28fahx8iupqj2.irc) has joined #techrights
15:37 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> and they're still at i
15:38 matey; and thats after stalin starved them
15:38 matey; some treaty
15:38 matey; "ive starved them as much as i can-- here, you take over"
15:38 XRevan86; It's based on insides (even though pretty good ones), so I'm not going to press on, it doesn't matter all that much.
15:39 thisideup; at least puttin has military education
15:40 thisideup; not some mouthpiece dictator
15:40 *thisideup looks at matey
15:40 XRevan86; thisideup: Um
15:40 XRevan86; Hitler was literally a soldier.
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; artillery
15:41 thisideup; yes corporal
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; ww1
15:41 XRevan86; Putin was a KGB bureaucrat.
15:41 XRevan86; Whose military education is better?
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; hitler saw everything as a shell
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; putler sees everyone as a spyu
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; projection
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; orm "foreign agent"
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; russia has no opposition to putin
15:41 schestowitz[TR]; they all love putin
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; except the "freign agents"
15:42 matey; honestly, i think both perspectives have advantages
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; influenced by "toxic" people
15:42 thisideup; somehow i find it hard to imagine a KGB agent as a bureaucrat.
15:42 matey; though id favour someone with firsthand combat experience
15:42 matey; maybe NOT hitler though
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; john kerry?
15:42 XRevan86; thisideup: I mean a desk-job.
15:42 matey; maybe someone who isnt an idiot
15:43 matey; kerrys job was to give a fake president 4 more years
15:43 matey; thanks, idiot.
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; desk--0job
15:43 thisideup; what kinf of job does a military strategist has?
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; "ze shell is coming, qvvick, under ze desk"
15:44 XRevan86; thisideup: Hopefully a military strategist had a good career path, and they have seen combat at least once.
15:44 thisideup; why?
15:44 matey; whats being implied here is that a lack of combat experience means a guaranteed failure to command strategically
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; hitler got a desk-job
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; eva didn't know
15:44 matey; im not convinced thats true
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; unter das desk
15:44 XRevan86; thisideup: To understand war.
15:44 schestowitz[TR]; from his gay general
15:44 XRevan86; The psychology of the troops, et al.
15:44 matey; it may be a hazard and that might apply to stalin
15:44 matey; i mean putin lol
15:44 matey; honestly a slip
15:44 matey; it might apply to putin
15:44 thisideup; that for the trops
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; putlin
15:45 matey; but if putin had served he would still be a lousy psycho leader
15:45 matey; and hitler wasnt that great strategically imo
15:45 XRevan86; thisideup: Anyway, your argument that Putin has better military background than Hitler is invalid, because Putin has literally zero military background.
15:45 matey; pushing too far (like stalin did at home) and then losing everything as a result (like stalin did at home)
15:45 matey; you have to actually hold what you capture or it counts for very little
15:45 schestowitz[TR]; hitler was literally a shit artist
15:45 thisideup; are you really comparing a corporal to an officer of the KGB?
15:46 schestowitz[TR]; he sought revenge by bombing people
15:46 matey; i didnt know he painted in shit
15:46 matey; i assumed it wasnt vatercolours
15:48 matey; i dont think front line experience guarantees a better strategist (but it probably helps the odds)
15:48 TR News; "Linux gamer" so lost in terms of topics... "Picking parts for our new PC!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JfVgk7243pw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
15:48 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JfVgk7243pw )
15:48 matey; nor lack of that guarantees an inferior strategist (buts its probably a hazard)
15:49 matey; i doubt standing in a trench helped hitler strategise as much as reading about military strategy for that matter
15:49 matey; but it may hvae given certain useful insights
15:49 matey; maybe without those he would have failed even sooner
15:50 schestowitz[TR]; matey: vasser?
15:50 thisideup; htiler was siting in the trench but then he we siysup and walks some meter and a bomb falls exactlly were he was siting
15:51 thisideup; its a mirical of god
15:51 XRevan86; Unfortunate.
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; of god?
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; god failed humanity
15:51 MinceR; which god
15:51 MinceR; Asmodeus?
15:51 thisideup; hitlers god
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; godel
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gdel
15:51 TR Bot; Kurt Gdel - Wikipedia
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; another smart person
15:51 schestowitz[TR]; escaped the shithole
15:52 XRevan86; Hitler was Christian, so Yahweh?
15:52 MinceR; right
15:52 thisideup; after that he got the notion he was chosen by god
15:52 MinceR; how fitting, yahweh used to be a war god
15:52 thisideup; or maybe the gas has something to do with that
15:52 matey; legalinsurrection.com/2019/11/vassar-president-it-was-anti-semitic-to-shout-at-israeli-jewish-speaker-from-the-river-to-the-sea-palestine-will-be-free/
15:52 matey; Condemns Vassar Students for Justice in Palestine for shouting genocidal slogan at Israeli speaker Hen Mazzig and disrupting his speech: "the use of the chantin this way, directed at this speakercrossed the line into anti-Semitism.
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; ""After the Anschluss on 12 March 1938, Austria had become a part of Nazi Germany. Germany abolished the title Privatdozent, so Gdel had to apply for a different position under the new order. His former association with Jewish members of the Vienna Circle, especially with Hahn, weighed against him. The University of Vienna turned his application down.
15:53 matey; thats genocidal?
15:53 XRevan86; thisideup: Hitler is not striking me as a humble guy.
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; "His predicament intensified when the German army found him fit for conscription. World War II started in September 1939. Before the year was up, Gdel and his wife left Vienna for Princeton"
15:53 thisideup; he was known has the autrian corporal
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; "Human capital flight
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; "
15:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight
15:53 TR Bot; Human capital flight - Wikipedia
15:54 matey; "His predicament intensified when the German army found him fit for conscription. World War II started in September 1939. Before the year was up, Gdel and his wife left Vienna for Princeton" <- new jersey?
15:54 matey; thats even worse than vienna
15:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166678
15:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:54 TR News; 6 New Changes Coming to Nautilus File Manager in GNOME 43 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166679
15:54 TR Bot; 6 New Changes Coming to Nautilus File Manager in GNOME 43 | Tux Machines
15:54 schestowitz[TR]; matey: nobody is perfect
15:54 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, he flew away from the austraian compatriot
15:54 matey; another problem with nazi mythology
15:54 schestowitz[TR]; who had taken over germany by storm-tropper
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; *stooper
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; *tropper
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; *trooper
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; hard to type SMH
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; matey: some people still fall for it in 2022
15:55 schestowitz[TR]; next year it's 90 years since the major events
15:55 matey; how did they take over germany? they cant even shoot one person in a crowd with 100 shots
15:56 thisideup; who?
15:56 matey; plus you can just wave your hand at them and they let you past
15:56 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election
15:56 TR Bot; March 1933 German federal election - Wikipedia
15:57 schestowitz[TR]; 43.9% of the votes
15:57 thisideup; political bickering
15:57 matey; like they didnt know alec guinness was british
15:57 matey; "must be one of ours"
15:57 thisideup; somethin matey knows verywell
15:57 matey; "why is he in a bathrobe though"
15:58 matey; "hes probably a kernel developer"
15:58 MinceR; strange
15:58 *gde35 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights
15:58 MinceR; i thought if someone is a bathrobe, they're probably The Postal Dude, Jr.
15:58 MinceR; s/is a/is in a/
15:58 matey; its a linus thing
15:59 TR News; A lot of Windows https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/06/2022-0-day-in-wild-exploitationso-far.html
15:59 TR Bot; Project Zero: 2022 0-day In-the-Wild Exploitationso far
15:59 thisideup; bathrobe its someone that escaped from the hospital
15:59 matey; also obi wan wasnt the postal dude, but he was delivering bad news
16:01 matey; in the fuzi remake of star wars, vader doesnt die
16:01 thisideup; obi lan
16:01 matey; instead luke joins him, and they take over the fsf together
16:01 MinceR; :>
16:01 TR News; Sandbagged, abused privacy of billions for profit https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/10/wow-facebook-really-knows-how-to-give-someone-a-send-off/
16:01 TR Bot; Facebook really knows how to give someone a send-off! TechCrunch
16:02 TR News; "Imagine calling someone on the phone, going hello! then putting them on hold... " https://nohello.net/en/
16:02 TR Bot; no hello
16:02 matey; leia runs han through with a borrowed lightsaber because hes toxic
16:02 matey; and chewbacca becomes a woman (which is fine, if hard to picture)
16:03 thisideup; are we righting the next chapter for disney for free?
16:03 MinceR; what do female wookiees look like?
16:04 matey; less hairy with wider hips
16:04 TR News; Irving Wladawsky-Berger on IBM's (and now Microsoft's) sham marketing (e.g. openwashing, greenwashing) front, misleadingly labeled "Linux Foundation" https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/06/the-impressive-scope-of-the-linux-foundation-in-2022.html Source: irvingwb
16:04 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Impressive Scope of the Linux Foundation in the 21st Century Digital Economy
16:04 thisideup; thats something only MinceR is intrested to know
16:05 TR News; IBM says "digital transformations" again; they see that as vendor lockin opportunity. Run away. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/hbr-analytics-services-report-digital-transformation-refocused-new-goals-require-new-strategies
16:05 TR Bot; Harvard Business Review Analytics Services Report - Digital Transformation Refocused: New Goals Require New Strategies
16:05 thisideup; MinceR is waiting for the right anser wich is "a feminist"
16:06 thisideup; you got love this loaded questions
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; LOL!!!!
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; "
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; "
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; Both internally and externally Team London is now fully available.
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; For 38 minutes Team London was unavailable or inaccessible.
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; The database appears to be shown as "storage-full" in AWS, causing the DB access to be paused. Increasing the storage space from 40GB to 45GB had the effect of restoring the website's functionality.
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; From work
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; clown computiing
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; your site is down
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; why?
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; artificvial limits
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; in the "clown"...
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; so robust
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; London Town Hall outsourced to Amazon
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; US
16:07 schestowitz[TR]; London, United States ;-)
16:07 matey; www.theodysseyonline.com/hitler-failed-get-into-art-school
16:07 matey; Hitler hated this; he hated any kind of job that would involve menial labor and routine, thinking himself too good for that kind of thing. Once his dad died, Hitler felt free to do his own thing, free of his father's strict rules and behavior. He was a rebellious teenager, interested in German nationalism and art.
16:08 schestowitz[TR]; but based in England... somehow
16:08 thisideup; wtf is team london?
16:09 schestowitz[TR]; if they STILL had their own infra, this wouldn't have happened
16:09 matey; south america is probably equally confused about amazon being in the united states
16:09 thisideup; Hitler wasnt that bad with the brush
16:09 schestowitz[TR]; but some salespeople convinced them to outsource their systems to another continent
16:09 thisideup; maybe if he would have stick with it
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; instead of amazon sending out alerts
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; they just take the thing down
16:10 matey; but some salespeople convinced them to outsource their systems to another continent <- maybe it was the same people who convinced the gnu project to move to github
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; even a town hall of a world capital
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; or town hall to adopt shithub
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; "inner source"
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; they used to have better systemns
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; like mantis
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; then that became jira (bloat)
16:10 schestowitz[TR]; they keep adopting "clown"
16:11 matey; instead they have jeff bezos preying on mantis
16:11 schestowitz[TR]; and new issues emerge
16:11 schestowitz[TR]; atlassian aalso had data loss recently
16:11 thisideup; team london are they running for the olimpics?
16:11 schestowitz[TR]; they lost many IT people
16:11 schestowitz[TR]; real IT
16:11 schestowitz[TR]; because they adopt suitware and surveillanceware
16:11 schestowitz[TR]; like clown
16:12 thisideup; amazoning
16:12 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, 38 mins of downtime
16:12 schestowitz[TR]; because some proprietary AWS GUI sent, upgrade, pay us more
16:12 schestowitz[TR]; they used to have their own infra when we started supporting them
16:12 schestowitz[TR]; 2014 when I viisited them and secured the contract
16:12 matey; monopolies re great for reliability, because when the only solution goes down,
16:12 *matey has quit (connection closed)
16:13 schestowitz[TR]; clown computing is an attack on IT and on IT people
16:13 schestowitz[TR]; cui bono? http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/cia-strategy-collect-all-data-and-keep-it-forever-130325?news=849534
16:13 TR Bot; Stories - CIA Strategy: Collect All Data and Keep it Forever - AllGov - News
16:13 thisideup; i think its was mazon marketing people that made "amazing" popular instead of awesome
16:13 TR News; Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166680
16:13 TR Bot; Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:14 MinceR; (cat) https://p.helene.moe/media/54b473b1552cef31bb6abe8c16201d8c9cbbd76440cec7c71969216b7cd02dfc.png
16:14 psydruid; clowns like attacking little children in particular
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; the media tells them that "all the kooool kidzzz" move to the clown
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; whatever that is
16:14 schestowitz[TR]; just outsourcing
16:15 schestowitz[TR]; and since the managers are NOT technical
16:15 schestowitz[TR]; they fall for it
16:15 *matey (~matey@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights
16:15 matey; join us now and take over our software
16:15 schestowitz[TR]; matey:
16:15 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166677 give up taking bribes from Microsoft, SFC....
16:15 TR Bot; Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! | Tux Machines
16:15 thisideup; they should be using owneclown
16:16 schestowitz[TR]; sfc says drop gtihub
16:16 schestowitz[TR]; sfc sells microsoft keynote
16:16 schestowitz[TR]; in conference about copyleft
16:16 schestowitz[TR]; spot the contradiciton
16:16 TR News; OpenSSL, Squid, Dracut Update in Tumbleweed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166681
16:16 TR Bot; OpenSSL, Squid, Dracut Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines
16:16 matey; theres no contradiction-- sfc is perpetually full of shit
16:16 matey; theyre being true to form
16:16 schestowitz[TR]; thisideup: they used it
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; chris set that up
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; like mantis
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; he left after they embraeed shitware
16:17 thisideup; schestowitz site only had 5m downtime in heluva long time
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; they drove away many talented geeks
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; he set up nextcloud or own clodu
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; cannot remember which
16:17 matey; including stallman, with a whip and chains
16:17 matey; nextcloud: github
16:17 matey; owncloud: also github
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; as mirror?
16:17 schestowitz[TR]; or "main"?
16:17 matey; perhaps, not that i know of...
16:17 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFHleRUa0qE
16:17 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=hFHleRUa0qE
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; where's yo masta?
16:18 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | IT | Opening Scene | HD | OV | 2017 - Invidious
16:18 psydruid; clowns are very dangerous
16:18 matey; master-baiting monkeys
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; matey: nextcloud LED a compalint about Microsoft
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; in the EU
16:18 schestowitz[TR]; I very much dioubt they would make microsoft master over theirn code
16:18 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owncloud github.com/owncloud
16:18 TR Bot; ownCloud - Wikipedia
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158424
16:19 TR Bot; EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by Microsoft, files official complaint | Tux Machines
16:19 schestowitz[TR]; ^ nexttcloud
16:20 matey; https://github.com/owncloud/core Issues 333Pull requests 68
16:20 TR Bot; - owncloud/core: ownCloud web server core (Files, DAV, etc.)
16:20 schestowitz[TR]; matey: see the SFC statement
16:20 schestowitz[TR]; they say quit github
16:20 thisideup; they filed a file
16:20 schestowitz[TR]; cause gpl violations
16:20 matey; i was doing owncloud first
16:20 schestowitz[TR]; for two years in a row they bagged microsoft money to sell influence over gpl
16:20 matey; matey: nextcloud LED a compalint about Microsoft <- and mjg did one against ice.
16:20 thisideup; i bet the complain is on amazon clown
16:21 schestowitz[TR]; that was done specifically, according to them, by the one who later became OSI interm GM
16:21 matey; complaints != boycotts != alternatives
16:21 schestowitz[TR]; deb nicholas cage
16:21 schestowitz[TR]; caged by microsoft
16:21 matey; /me still thinks deb icaza is funnier
16:21 matey; because both are traitors and theres only one letter different
16:21 schestowitz[TR]; yes, I think we adopted this for a while
16:22 schestowitz[TR]; bully de icaza would be funny
16:22 schestowitz[TR]; but too far from the real name
16:22 psydruid; deb nichola francis ford coppola cage icaza
16:22 MinceR; that's a mouthful
16:22 matey; nothing beats "caring slander" though
16:22 matey; i stole that one
16:23 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/09/15/wrong-solutions-swpats/
16:23 matey; as a favour (they can have it back if they want it)
16:23 TR Bot; Open Invention Network (OIN) Recognises a Risk Posed to Cryptocurrencies (Danger From Software Patents), But OIN Still Proposes the Wrong Solutions | Techrights
16:23 schestowitz[TR]; wait, wrong link
16:23 schestowitz[TR]; Video: http://techrights.org/2021/04/24/debunking-deb/
16:23 TR Bot; OINs Deb Nicholson: We Dont Solve Any Real Issues, Just Like OSI (Where Nicholson is Now Interim General Manager) | Techrights
16:23 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/videos/oin-swpats-interview.webm
16:23 psydruid; Coppola is his real last name, he's related to the director of the Godfather movies
16:23 schestowitz[TR]; might kill the bot
16:24 matey; has it "adapted" again
16:24 SomeH4x0r; TechrightsBot-tr? Why?
16:24 schestowitz[TR]; SomeH4x0r: memory allocation
16:24 schestowitz[TR]; ogg files cause issues
16:24 matey; i never have trouble with the audio
16:24 matey; the videos eat cpu for breakfast
16:24 psydruid; is it leaking memory?
16:24 schestowitz[TR]; you can see our code for it in git
16:24 schestowitz[TR]; php-based
16:25 MinceR; presumably it fetches the whole resource and looks for <title> in it
16:25 matey; given that the whole system is php/perl based
16:25 thisideup; nowdays the newsoftware is always worst that the older one
16:25 schestowitz[TR]; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/IRC/
16:25 matey; i can see why you would use php
16:25 matey; personally im not in the market for either of those
16:26 matey; <MinceR> presumably it fetches the whole resource and looks for <title> in it <- messy
16:26 matey; wget has a timeout, i dont know if it can stop after n bytes
16:26 matey; but it can stop after n seconds
16:26 TR News; Curiouser and Curiouser: How I found, and what you can learn, from gemserv's Directory Transversal vulnerabilities gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-06-30-check-your-project.gmi
16:27 thisideup; n lines
16:27 matey; curl is an os posing as a command line tool, im sure you can tell it to stop after a republican gets in office on yom kippur
16:27 thisideup; matey loves to use the n word
16:27 matey; awk has curl envy
16:27 MinceR; i thought wget was more featureful than curl
16:28 matey; not that i know of-- but i could be wrong
16:28 matey; curl does more protocols at least
16:28 matey; which i used to take advantage of
16:28 TR News; Mozilla Thunderbird: Are Your Favorite Thunderbird Add-ons Compatible With Thunderbird 102? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166599#comment-34198
16:28 TR Bot; Mozilla Thunderbird 102 Released with New Address Book, Import/Export Wizard | Tux Machines
16:28 thisideup; curl had security issues
16:29 matey; wget can do crawling, i think
16:29 matey; im not saying curl cant, but i dont know
16:29 TR News; LOL. "I'm not sure if I'd call an Intel motherboard a "dream", more like a specific type of dream, like the ones when you go to school naked or all your teeth fall out." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1331687-a-dream-come-true-running-coreboot-on-a-modern-retail-desktop-motherboard
16:29 TR Bot; Dream Come True: Running Coreboot On A Modern, Retail Desktop Motherboard - Phoronix Forums
16:30 MinceR; yeah, i used recursive retrieval in wget a lot
16:31 matey; https://github.com/nextcloud/server
16:31 TR Bot; - nextcloud/server: Nextcloud server, a safe home for all your data
16:31 thisideup; this port does still require the Intel FSP (Firmware Support Package) binary so it's not 100% open-source.
16:31 matey; Join the team
16:31 matey; There are many ways to contribute, of which development is only one! Find out how to get involved, including as translator, designer, tester, helping others and much more!
16:31 matey; Set up your local development environment
16:31 matey; Pick a good first issue
16:31 matey; Create a branch and make your changes. Remember to sign off your commits using git commit -sm "Your commit message"
16:31 matey; Create a pull request and @mention the people from the issue to review
16:31 matey; Fix things that come up during review
16:31 matey; Wait for it to get merged!
16:32 SomeH4x0r; what is "good first issue"?
16:32 matey; schestowitz[TR] i believe nextcloud is github-based (as i already did)
16:32 matey; good first issue is get tfo github
16:32 matey; but i doubt that will go over well
16:32 TR News; Old school editor Vim hits version 9 with faster scripting language http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34199
16:32 TR Bot; Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines
16:33 matey; "Create a pull request and @mention the people from the issue to review" <- this sounds very github-based (source: their github repo)
16:33 matey; "We are moving more and more towards using Vue.js in the frontend"
16:34 thisideup; is nextcloud a ownclowd fork ?
16:35 matey; so nextcloud is github-based
16:35 matey; and so is their 3rd party frontend
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; wow
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; weird
16:35 matey; but that shouldnt surprise anyone
16:35 matey; because pretty much everything is controlled by ibm and microsoft now
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; their head is in the lion's mouth
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; an analogy rms likes to use
16:35 schestowitz[TR]; I just got a call from work
16:35 thisideup; microsft is gorking every project onto github
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; so it turns out the engs had no aws access
16:36 matey; from google?
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; and so on this clown copmputing env (aws) we could not fix the issue
16:36 matey; I just got a call from work <- over google?
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; even if we wanted to
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; with ful root access
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; welcome to clown
16:36 matey; a google voice call?
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; use proprietary guis tro "|solve" issue
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; slike artificial limitatios on DB size
16:36 matey; google(listens to your)voice
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; "beilling" downtime
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; reason for downtime:
16:36 psydruid; wait for yourself to be merged into the clown!
16:36 schestowitz[TR]; billing!
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; not billness (billG)
16:37 psydruid; a symbiotic relationship
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; the clown company wanted more money
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; so it put down the site for an hour
16:37 matey; gee thats a nice website you got here
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; aws: we are zero downtime
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; "we are robust"
16:37 thisideup; simbiotic?
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; "guranteed sla"
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; and.... it's downr
16:37 matey; robusted
16:37 schestowitz[TR]; reason: billing
16:37 matey; ro-busted by ro-bots
16:38 matey; they can open an issue on github
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; matey: n, not gulag voiiuce
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; landline
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; intercom even
16:38 matey; intercoms are great
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; rianne is working today
16:38 matey; i waiting for nest to make one
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; nest has wone iirc
16:38 matey; rofl
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; but it's not really intercom
16:38 schestowitz[TR]; it just emulates it
16:39 matey; yeah
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; gulag gets to ccontrol it all
16:39 matey; through the clown
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; so now even a doorbell is wiretapped
16:39 matey; /me waits for it
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; it used to be just some wire they stretch across
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; would last OK 30+ years
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; now you need to get updates and after 5 years it's "end of life"
16:39 schestowitz[TR]; solution: BUUY A NEW ONE
16:39 psydruid; hebban olla vogala nestas bigunnan
16:39 matey; yeah we had one of the dumb doorhells (dumb bells?)
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; dumbbells...
16:40 matey; doorhells <- the interdimensional portals that lead to github
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; lose weight while answering the door
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; what next?
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; what miracle?
16:40 thisideup; dumb doorhells you cant open the door wile taking a dump
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; a "smart" "assistane" the OPENs thwe ooor physically?
16:40 psydruid; "have all birds started building nests"
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; RUSHA "likes"
16:40 matey; at the tone(d muscles) please leave your message
16:40 schestowitz[TR]; "give me address, dima, i open door to burglars"
16:41 matey; its not a breakin, its a special greeting operation
16:41 thisideup; or worst to the fbi
16:41 schestowitz[TR]; FaceBook Integram
16:41 schestowitz[TR]; (Instagram
16:42 thisideup; at least burglars donr send you to jail
16:42 schestowitz[TR]; they can send you to the grave
16:42 thisideup; so do the fbi
16:43 thisideup; at least if you are black
16:44 thisideup; we didnt have warrant to search but theres was this compurter glitch
16:44 psydruid; Facedoor: for when your face hits the door on the way out
16:45 MinceR; we didn't have warrant, but there are some corporations that happily sold the data to us
16:45 thisideup; smartdoorsbells are hardwired to open the door if the read police or fbi
16:46 thisideup; we didn't have warrant, but we founf you on the kackernets forum
16:46 TR News; Today's lesson: clown computing is so dumb that even with full (root) access to the servers you cannot resolve the issue. The issue is in some proprietary GUI of Jeff Bezos, that causes London's municipality to have 40 minutes of downtime over a superficial BILLING issue, nothing technical. Avoid clown computing. Own your systems. Quit renting from greedy blackmail artists.
16:49 thisideup; just adopt us english the rest of the world already did
16:50 thisideup; stop being twats
16:50 schestowitz[TR]; ?
16:50 schestowitz[TR]; that's a british term
16:50 thisideup; 40 minutes of downtime over a superficial BILLING?
16:50 thisideup; thats why i said stop
16:51 thisideup; BILLING thats language related or money?
16:51 matey; <schestowitz[TR]> a "smart" "assistane" the OPENs thwe ooor physically? <- the true meaning of "open source"
16:51 MinceR; "twat" is also a usian, new zealander and general australian term
16:51 MinceR; https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/twat
16:51 TR Bot; twat - Wiktionary
16:52 matey; twat is used with subtle differences in britain and usa
16:52 matey; in usa its more often used to refer to anatomy
16:52 matey; in britain its more often used to describe a person
16:52 TR News; Links 30/06/2022: PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/postgresql-15-beta-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/postgresql-15-beta-2/
16:52 TR Bot; Links 30/06/2022: PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 | Techrights
16:52 matey; but that doesnt mean it cant be used either way
16:52 matey; only that one use is favoured in different places
16:52 matey; from what ive seen of course
16:53 thisideup; buggers
16:53 matey; for example, in shawn of the dead, "twat" is used to describe the guy from black books
16:53 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166682
16:53 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:53 matey; or maybe shawn, but i think its the other guy
16:53 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166683
16:53 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
16:53 matey; either way the other guy (from black books) is definitely a twat
16:53 thisideup; will i get downvoted for using it?
16:54 matey; and in the uk it sometimes rhymes with cat
16:54 matey; in the us is basically always rhymes with caught
16:54 thisideup; tell mincer about it
16:55 thisideup; cat rhymes with cat?
16:55 thisideup; dont tell anyone
16:56 matey; it could have been the opposite 50 years ago, i dont know where it originated
16:56 matey; if i had to guess, id guess it was scottish :)
16:56 matey; i bet xrevans guess would be better
16:56 schestowitz[TR]; must be some german word
16:57 schestowitz[TR]; ask micahel
16:57 matey; "cunt" is also used more often to refer to a person in the uk
16:57 schestowitz[TR]; (aka activelow aka thisideup )
16:57 schestowitz[TR]; matey: used to be make
16:57 schestowitz[TR]; not females too
16:57 thisideup; am noy activelol
16:57 schestowitz[TR]; "she's such a c**"
16:57 matey; well
16:57 matey; when i hear cunt in the uk its usually referring to a guy
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; thisideup: are you roommates with activelow?
16:58 matey; but i dont know if its used exclusively that way
16:58 matey; i imagine its unisex
16:58 matey; there are just more guys around when its used
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; matey: the word lost its intensity
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; you'd not say it in the office
16:58 thisideup; roommates? no but you are
16:58 matey; "hey steve! how are ya, ya fuckin cunt"
16:58 schestowitz[TR]; but in the pub it's used casually
16:58 matey; yeah just like that
16:58 matey; its a joke
16:58 matey; maybe it used to be "fighting words"
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
16:59 matey; but now its almost a term of endearment (as well)
16:59 matey; thats brits for you
16:59 thisideup; matey why dont you just stfu?
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; we still say git
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; usually CHEEKY git
16:59 matey; yep
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft says gitHUB
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; they ndidn't create it
16:59 matey; steve coogan likes it
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; they ruin it
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; staff and users/projects deviate elsewhere
16:59 schestowitz[TR]; like with skype
17:00 matey; staff and users/projects deviate elsewhere <- citation needed
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; i shows microsoft itself
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; its own data
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/
17:00 matey; i know a few projects have moved since the "exodus" first week
17:00 TR Bot; Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; it must have gotten worse since
17:00 thisideup; soon we whont be able to say squat
17:00 schestowitz[TR]; I see many new projects that use other hosting
17:01 matey; http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/ <- 17 months ago
17:01 TR Bot; 2021 January 24 | Techrights
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; github was the "go-to"place
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; it was seen as free and convenient
17:01 thisideup; cause of stupid COC laws
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; snow projects think twice
17:01 matey; its still where all the software is, sadly.
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; older projects mostly
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; because they got locked in
17:01 matey; the ones weve relied on forever that arent bloated yes
17:01 thisideup; at least we can still say COC
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; issues, users, URLs linking to it
17:01 matey; the new ones arent based there but
17:01 schestowitz[TR]; github got all COCky
17:02 matey; theyre all written in github-based languages using github-based libraries
17:02 matey; also most new ones are still based there
17:02 matey; its just new projects MIGHT make an exception
17:02 matey; before writing everything in python or perl or c++ with boost libraries
17:02 matey; or rust
17:03 matey; or node
17:03 matey; while using libraries based on github
17:03 matey; because thats where all the software still is. for now.
17:03 thisideup; im room mate with schestowitz
17:04 matey; if you tried to write some github-free software
17:04 matey; youd be VERY VERY hard-pressed to do so
17:04 matey; but its doable, if you avoid practically everything
17:04 matey; if i wrote everything in awk for example
17:05 matey; theres a non-github-based awk in openbsd
17:05 matey; i dont even think it needs autotools
17:05 thisideup; now you can have github account just like fb google MS
17:05 matey; and i dont count mirrors. its just that most mirrors arent really mirrors
17:05 thisideup; you can use it to login to shit
17:05 matey; theyre not strictly mirrors
17:06 matey; and they end up being a step towards migration TO github too often
17:06 matey; but itll be nice when this generalisation is actually out of date
17:06 matey; it just isnt yet
17:06 thisideup; im using my google account to login to fb and my fb account to login to google
17:06 matey; it will be eventually. sooner if we fight it-- and later if we sit on it
17:06 thisideup; how cool is that!
17:06 matey; downplaying doesnt help
17:07 thisideup; get a github account its free!
17:08 thisideup; even the politicians are doing it
17:08 thisideup; just dont tell trump
17:09 thisideup; i wonder if you get banned from FB if you get banned from github too
17:10 thisideup; or maybe you ill be filling captchas for 6 months
17:11 MinceR; captcha gulag
17:13 thisideup; MS was asking me to have my parant "vouch" for an account i made 20 years ago
17:15 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/16/tumblr-gets-deep-06-16-22/
17:15 TR Bot; 24 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention Today
17:17 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had "According to Russias press releases, theyve destroyed more military hardware than Ukraine ever had. Proekt's journalists analysed the Russian Defence Ministrys reports"
17:17 TR Bot; NO TITLE
17:20 thisideup; if they account for vodka bottles has hardware
17:21 thisideup; you can make molotovs out of them
17:21 thisideup; so i recon
17:54 TR News; SpellBinding: GINOYWR Wordo: GRAFT gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-30.gmi
17:55 TR News; Modern Art gemini://idiomdrottning.org/modern-art
17:55 TR News; On choosing a text editor gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220630_cotton_or_oil
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18:12 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-16-22-7.jpg
18:12 matey; Pine64 Has RISC-V-Based Raspberry Pi Rival, Pico W Introduced
18:12 matey; now that is interesting
18:12 MinceR; does it come with MICROS~1 malware?
18:12 matey; good question
18:12 matey; im just getting this from the tr frontpage
18:12 matey; havent read about the pico yet
18:13 matey; fwiw these stories are usually a disappointment
18:13 matey; i firmly believe SOME of them will become less disappointing
18:13 matey; while many will remain useless
18:13 matey; thats the general trajectory of sbcs
18:14 matey; based on the name i expect the "pico" to be significantly less powerful than the pi, but i dont know that
18:14 matey; but if theyre riffing on "pi" they did it wrong
18:14 matey; but maybe it actually is a "rival" to the pi
18:14 matey; of course im excited about risc-v
18:14 matey; so i perk up slightly when i see that
18:14 matey; but i dont get my hopes up too high
18:15 matey; pico is better than "pipsqueak"
18:15 matey; which would be an okay name if its meant to rival the pi zero
18:17 matey; when the raspberry pi starts to draw too much power and doesnt give a reasonable amount of processing in return, we can call it the "raspberry pig"
18:18 matey; people who know an sbc is a better deal than traditional boards are raspberry pilled
18:18 matey; of course id never use that term in an article or any serious context
18:19 matey; as the raspberry is a raspberry pile-- of shit
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18:19 psydroid2; lol
18:20 matey; and the person who made the pi and defends all the terrible things hes allowed to be done to it
18:20 matey; is a raspberry PIece of shit
18:21 matey; but thats what people take the raspberry piss out of him
18:22 matey; also known as a raspberry berate
18:22 matey; the kind you find on a second rate forum
18:23 TR News; "Today we'll talk about the Gemini server that powers this capsule and runs on an ESP32 development board. (All code is simplified and some uninteresting parts are omitted.)" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/behind-the-scenes.gmi
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:30 matey; ergonomic 3d mouse design:
18:30 matey; basic 2 button mouse, but instead of a scroll wheel
18:31 matey; theres a curved, narrow touchpad
18:31 matey; it only cares about one axis of movement
18:31 matey; forward and back, used for zooming or up/down
18:32 matey; you could use a scrollwheel the same way-- but i wouldnt prefer it
18:32 matey; so left/right forward/back with the mouse as usual
18:32 matey; plus the "scrollpad" for up/down
18:33 matey; on a plane, you have pedals, yoke rotation and yoke forward/back to navigate 3d
18:34 matey; forward/back for pitch, rotation for roll, and pedals for yaw
18:39 TR News; COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/england-covid-cases/
18:39 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%)
18:39 MinceR; i got a mouse with an optical sensor on top for scrolling, but they got the sensitivity wrong
18:40 MinceR; and it provided no haptic feedback
18:40 MinceR; so it didn't work out for me
18:40 matey; touchpad always provided enough tactile feedback for me
18:40 matey; but if you make it too smooth it doesnt
18:41 MinceR; it doesn't click when it sends a scroll event
18:41 matey; the sensitivity should be adjustable, but in practice some mice seem more adjustable than others
18:42 matey; in this context its analogous to moving the mouse in 4 directions, plus one more axis
18:42 matey; my mouse doesnt click when i move it
18:42 matey; but i suppose for scrolling-- that would annoy you
18:42 matey; not me, but-- some people
18:42 matey; fwiw my mouse DOES give feedback when i scroll
18:43 matey; also worth considering is this
18:43 matey; in the turntable dj community there is a great debate about the pitch slider
18:43 matey; some people like the stop in the middle, so its easy to find "0
18:44 matey; but a lot of people fucking hate it, because it makes the transition from < 0 to > 0 less smooth
18:44 matey; so people will go as far as replacing the slider with the stop to a slider without one
18:44 matey; removing it from the turntable and replacing it with the other type
18:45 matey; because everything they do depends on the behaviour of that slider
18:45 matey; whether it provides feedback at 0-- or doesnt
18:45 matey; depending on their preference
18:46 MinceR; perhaps it could be switchable via an electromagnet
18:46 MinceR; or a motor
18:46 matey; you could really put a simple mechanical switch in the middle
18:46 matey; slide towards the slider, it stops slghtly at 0
18:47 matey; slide it away from the slider, its perfectly smooth
18:47 MinceR; :>
18:47 matey; the thing is, the designers didnt think anyone would care
18:47 matey; or they assumed people would want something, when not everyone did
18:47 MinceR; they might not want switches between the sliders
18:48 matey; on the model in question theres only one slider
18:48 matey; the pitch slider
18:48 matey; these are real turntables-- not cdjs
18:48 MinceR; ic
18:48 matey; i like cdjs
18:48 matey; i respect people can that mix on real turntables
18:48 matey; its a lot more work, and you have to constantly compensate for things
18:48 MinceR; i prefer composing in a tracker
18:48 matey; me too
18:49 matey; but i cant imagine doing some of the things in a tracker that these guys do on the spot
18:49 matey; so ive watched a bunch of tutorials to understand the techniques better
18:49 matey; who knows, maybe someday ill design a better tracker based on those techniques
18:49 matey; either way i wanted to understand how its done
18:50 matey; at least at a beginner level
18:50 matey; ive watched vinyl mixing tutorials too
18:50 matey; just keeping the beats matched is work
18:51 matey; a lot of people who used to do vinyl, and still can, have settled into the convenience of cdj mixing
18:51 matey; its still an art form, only now its not as tedious and you can focus on having fun wih the beats
18:51 matey; and what to mix next
18:52 matey; theres a thing called groove riding in vinyl mixing
18:52 matey; its a smoother way to match beats
18:53 matey; you can always match by slowing the record down with a finger on the middle
18:53 matey; or speed it up by moving the other way
18:53 matey; groove riding is when you change the speed with the slider (this also changes the pitch)
18:54 matey; but you do it in small increments so the record gets synced as you move the slider back and forth
18:54 matey; its crazy, but once you see it done it makes sense
18:54 matey; you do it because its more subtle (in the final production) than the manual record adjustments
18:55 matey; and unlike with a cdj the beats get unmatched again
18:55 matey; or it happens sooner
18:55 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/solved
18:55 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Solved
18:56 matey; of course after you learn these techniques they have to be practiced to be useful
18:56 matey; i dont have any gear like that, so its just interesting
18:57 matey; i did make a text file with queue points though :) this is a cdj technique
18:57 matey; so basically the text file stops mplayer and moves to a specific part of the song
18:57 matey; and plays there
18:57 matey; you can rebuild (or mix) two songs that way
18:57 matey; maybe not as well as you could with a cdj, but its still fun
18:58 matey; and you dont edit the song at all
18:58 matey; you just play it back creatively
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 matey; id love to make a "tracker" that just uses scripts and entire songs and mplayer
18:59 matey; the thing is, mplayer cant queue properly on mp4, probably not on mp3 either
18:59 matey; you have to at least decompress to wav (or maybe mp3 works, but i dont think it does)
19:00 matey; i cant get mplayer to go to a specific second on video-- maybe every 3-4 seconds but i want 1/2 1/4 1/8 seconds (preferably 1/100)
19:00 matey; for wav it is more accomodating
19:00 matey; maybe theres a tweak with "frames" that makes it more suitable, im no expert on mplayer options
19:01 matey; yesterday i watched a video that only had audio on the left, but its "stereo"-- theres an -af tweak for that
19:01 thisideup; mplayer FTW
19:03 thisideup; why not ffplay?
19:03 matey; i dont have any mp3s on here, have a couple of m4as
19:04 matey; on m4a i think mplayer can queue to at least half seconds (its hard to test finer than that, but i could)
19:04 thisideup; i mean the more cumbersom the better
19:04 matey; so maybe converting to wav isnt needed
19:05 thisideup; ffplay doesnt need converting
19:07 thisideup; ffplay -h doesnt even fit term buffer
19:07 thisideup; must be the right choice for you
19:08 thisideup; theres nothing it cant do
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19:17 TR News; Vim 9.0 Released, Introduces the New Vim9 Scripting Language http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34200
19:17 TR Bot; Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines
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19:18 TR Bot; Why Kenyans should say no to biometrics for SIM card registry - Access Now
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19:24 TR News; What would it be like to suffer a cyberattack event, that literally closes down an entire business? That's exactly what happened to United Structures of America, a steel manufacturing company. In this episode, Jay and Joao discuss what happened, and some of the lessons learned that should cause..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=akchEAs423k
19:24 TR Bot; Enterprise Linux Security Episode 34 - How one business lost Everything - Invidious
19:25 TR News; So, You Think You Can Design A 20 Exaflops Supercomputer? https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/30/so-you-think-you-can-design-a-20-exaflops-supercomputer/ Source: nextplatform
19:25 TR Bot; So, You Think You Can Design A 20 Exaflops Supercomputer?
19:26 TR News; Microsoft is down even further, as usual https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/06/30/june-2022-web-server-survey.html
19:26 TR Bot; June 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News
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19:28 TR News; CVSS v3 9.8 (out of 10!!). But it's not "Open Source", so the so-called 'media' will pretend not to see it https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-01
19:28 TR Bot; Exemys RME1 | CISA
19:29 TR News; Exploitable remotely https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-02 low entropy... while our governments TRY TO MANDATE LOW ENTROPY!!!
19:29 TR Bot; Yokogawa Wide Area Communication Router | CISA
19:30 TR News; "The affected product is vulnerable by using hard-coded credentials in the FTP service, which is disabled by default." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-03
19:30 TR Bot; Emerson DeltaV Distributed Control System | CISA
19:31 TR News; Proprietary software "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity/public exploits are available" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-04
19:31 TR Bot; Distributed Data Systems WebHMI | CISA
19:32 TR News; "Unzip the downloaded file (zip format). Execute the file setup.exe located in the folder unzipped and install it." Gee, do I need to install WINE... or, wait... this is MICROSOFT WINDOWS https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-350-05
19:32 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric FA Engineering Software (Update A) | CISA
19:32 TR News; Proprietary again: "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/ICSA-15-258-02
19:32 TR Bot; CODESYS Gateway Server (Update A) | CISA
19:33 TR News; Thousands of articles saying "Open Source"... something "security" issue. No such articles about proprietary software... as if it is collectively beyond scrutiny
19:35 TR News; "Notice how theyre phasing out bi-weekly updates (used to be daily), just when the problem gets more severe and urgent" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/covid-19-patients-in-hospital/
19:35 TR Bot; Blog Archive Going Increasingly Dark (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When Its Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record)
19:37 TR News; "UK-wide COVID-19 patients in hospital" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/england-covid-cases/
19:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%)
19:39 TR News; "Really pleased to see so much work from the team, and the wider community released as Collabora Online 22.05 - a first cut of our next round of development work around the next-generation Collabora Online - quicker, slicker, better, prettier and more." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog/2022-06-29.html
19:39 TR Bot; Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
19:40 MinceR; (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/zh9NJT6.mp4
19:42 TR News; Deluge BitTorrent Client 2.1.0 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/06/deluge-bittorrent-client-2-1-0-released/ Source: UbuntuHandbook | FreeSW | GNU | Linux
19:42 TR Bot; Deluge BitTorrent Client 2.1.0 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook
19:45 TR News; "I detailed today an old sketch to test something technical about painting (and also to keep beta testing Krita 5.1beta1). After the Rendez Vous de la BD in Amiens Festival, I saw hundreds of comic styles but rarely painterly style." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article917/asleep
19:45 TR Bot; Asleep - David Revoy
19:46 TR News; Thunderbirds huge update and Googles new antitrust issues - Linux and open source news - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GU7aBOJElRA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
19:46 TR Bot; Thunderbird's huge update and Google's new antitrust issues - Linux and open source news - Invidious
19:47 TR News; KaOS 2022.06 overview | KaOS is an independent distribution focused on Qt and KDE. - Invidious <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9qT8wm_k6o4"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
19:47 TR Bot; KaOS 2022.06 overview | KaOS is an independent distribution focused on Qt and KDE. - Invidious
19:48 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166684
19:48 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:56 TR News; Published 10 Minutes Ago: IRCNow by Aaron Lin | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/ircnow-by-aaron-lin/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/ircnow-by-aaron-lin/
19:56 TR Bot; Published 10 Minutes Ago: IRCNow by Aaron Lin | Techrights
19:59 TR News; Should stop Windows then, as that's by far the biggest ransomware magnet https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/30/stopransomware-medusalocker
19:59 TR Bot; #StopRansomware: MedusaLocker | CISA
20:00 TR News; "Fedora gets serious about its server editions, our thoughts on Valve's increased Steam Deck production, and the surprising results of booting Linux on the Apple M2 SoC." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149077/linux-action-news-247/
20:01 TR Bot; Linux Action News 247 | Jupiter Broadcasting
20:04 TR News; IRCNow by Aaron Lin was uploaded moments ago. Of the users, by the users, for the users http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/ircnow-by-aaron-lin/
20:06 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, KaOS 2022.06, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166685
20:06 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, KaOS 2022.06, and More | Tux Machines
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21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:19 matey; /me looks around for nazis
22:19 matey; well, thats plural, but close enough for jazz
22:20 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=INt48fr_ZYc
22:20 TR Bot; STAN FREBERG - Heartbreak Hotel (1956) - Invidious
22:20 matey; ve must exTERMinate zee plud plus
22:21 matey; ve ah here to zolve zee plus plus prrrrrrrrroblem!
22:21 matey; vould you like un horderve?
22:22 matey; horderves, vhich vill be obeyed at all timez!
22:22 matey; /me obeys zee little coldcuts on crrrrrrrrrackerz
22:22 matey; ja vhol!
22:23 matey; vhen ve hav exterminated zee plus plus
22:24 matey; ve vill exterminate zee distro und vinning gnu und leenux for zee red hat, ja?
22:25 matey; compile compile compile, verk verk verk, und no talk of ziss herr stallman, he is a nasty jew
22:25 matey; he causes so much trrrrouble
22:25 matey; ve vill neutralize zee problem!
22:26 matey; heil vatson!
22:27 matey; vatson ist ibm! und ibm ist godt!
22:27 matey; "vait, vait, vait! godt or godt?"
22:27 matey; "ja!"
22:28 matey; "zee furrrrrst vone!"
22:30 matey; gnu ist recursung acronymg ja
22:30 matey; meaning "gnu ist nicht linux!"
22:30 matey; herr torvalds disagreez
22:30 matey; he says, NEIN! LEENUX IST GNU!
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22:31 matey; but ve know better, ja?
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22:31 matey; zilence, bitte!
22:32 matey; herr gates ist speakung
22:32 matey; sprechen!
22:32 matey; also sprechen gatesthustra
22:33 matey; dum!
22:33 matey; DUM!
22:33 matey; DUMMMMMMMM!
22:33 matey; dum dum dum DUM! DUMDUM!
22:33 psydruid; Lennarts Endlsung!
22:33 matey; hehehehehehehehe
22:34 matey; but theres a nuance!
22:34 matey; /me falls over
22:34 matey; XD
22:35 matey; one the one hand, the world is run by idiots and thats fucking tragic
22:35 matey; on the other hand, they will die horribly
22:35 matey; and thats hilarious
22:37 psydruid; but we will also die without enjoying the hilarity of this tragedy
22:37 matey; no no no
22:38 matey; first of all, and very importantly
22:38 matey; some of us will (probably) survive
22:38 matey; god has made it very clear that im not wanted
22:38 matey; and the devil feels exactly the same
22:38 matey; i cant be the only one
22:38 matey; but also
22:39 matey; we will, are, DO, enjoy the hilarity
22:39 matey; thats half the bloody point
22:39 matey; but for those who are just too serious to laugh
22:39 matey; dont despair
22:39 matey; its going to get a fuck of a lot worse before it gets better
22:40 matey; it does get better
22:40 matey; https://yewtu.be/search?q=it%20does%20get%20better
22:40 TR Bot; it does get better - Invidious
22:41 matey; i cant be the only one <- some of us are just too much trouble, you knoe
22:42 matey; "look at these two crafty buggers!"-- ben
22:43 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI
22:43 TR Bot; "Shia LaBeouf" Live - Rob Cantor - Invidious
22:44 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=siuOtzkI8vQ
22:44 TR Bot; Tom Cruise Original VS Parody Interview - Invidious
22:45 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5RYY0hwHIRw
22:45 TR Bot; Sia - Elastic Heart (lyrics) - Invidious
22:46 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8
22:46 TR Bot; Scatman (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop) Official Video HD - Scatman John - Invidious
22:47 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UeoYqP_2irI
22:47 TR Bot; The Worst Fisherwoman On The Black Sea! - Invidious
22:48 matey; the ship computer DID get a lot cuter when he became a woman
22:51 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vLm6oTCFcxQ
22:51 TR Bot; Red Dwarf - White Hole: Genius Holly & Talkie Toaster - Invidious
22:55 *psydruid has been losing touch with the Anglophone music world for the past 15 years
22:55 matey; ACTION has been losing touch with the Anglophone music world for the past 15 years <- thats alright
22:56 matey; truth be told,
22:56 matey; (this is a big secret)
22:56 matey; music doesnt have WORDS
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22:56 matey; they just bolt them on as an afterthought
22:56 matey; :)
22:57 psydruid; I listen to plenty of music with lyrics in languages I don't understand
22:57 matey; https://yewtu.be/search?q=bach+dum+dum+dum+dum+dumdumdumdumd
22:57 TR Bot; bach dum dum dum dum dumdumdum - Invidious
22:57 matey; whats creepy is youtube knew what i mean
22:57 psydruid; this is apparently a big barrier for many people to cross
22:57 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
22:57 matey; Beethoven's 5th Symphony
22:57 TR Bot; Beethoven's 5th Symphony - Invidious
22:58 matey; AND IT WAS CORRECT
22:58 matey; this qualifies as research, i expect the proper grant in the morning
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22:59 matey; (seriously i looked up dum dum dum dum dumdumdumdum and youtube gave the song i was looking for)
22:59 matey; hey hi WORKS (*cough* occasionally)
22:59 matey; /me does finger batons
23:00 matey; NEXT UP: trying to drive with a comp-YOO-tah!
23:00 psydruid; lol
23:01 matey; my wife used to say this (im not kidding)
23:01 matey; vroom vroom VROOM!
23:01 matey; you think id marry someone who wasnt cute?
23:01 matey; (and a dork)
23:01 matey; she was making fun of idiots with cars
23:01 matey; like elon
23:01 matey; (not specifically)
23:02 matey; these days it seems like only idiots have cars
23:02 matey; i think some people probably need them, in all fairness
23:02 matey; (but it does seem that way)
23:02 matey; beethoven was pretty good for a cis white dude
23:03 matey; "
23:03 matey; "but he was german!"
23:03 matey; "well no ones perfect"
23:03 matey; marx was german, so was marlene
23:03 matey; i never married marlene, its one of my greatest regrets
23:05 matey; 6:21 now hes just showing off!
23:05 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
23:05 TR Bot; Beethoven's 5th Symphony - Invidious
23:05 matey; not bad for a deaf composer
23:07 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zliasEkWx0M
23:07 TR Bot; Skrillex, Starrah & Four Tet - Butterflies (Official Music Video) - Invidious
23:09 matey; someone in here told me skillex is a cia operative or something?
23:09 matey; anything is possible i suppose
23:11 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lwCy6yn4SDY
23:11 TR Bot; Coffee & Cigarettes - Delirium - Bill Murray with RZA & GZA - Invidious
23:12 matey; DAMN, BILL MURRAY!
23:13 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4ypZ3J_Jw
23:13 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=X_4ypZ3J_Jw
23:13 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=X_4ypZ3J_Jw )
23:14 matey; "it used to make me dream faster"
23:14 matey; "thats how my dreams were... just whizzin by"
23:15 matey; nicotine messes with your central nervous system
23:15 matey; your respertorial system...
23:16 matey; try oven cleaner
23:18 matey; EARLY david walliams https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1ssE8sxe0B4
23:18 TR Bot; Vulva's Art Show | Spaced | Dead Parrot - Invidious
23:18 matey; well, i think it was after little britain began actualllllly
23:19 matey; here in the town of KHHLANDOOEY BREVEY (i dunno, its welsh) is wooly woofter herr goebbels
23:20 matey; "yes, we have *** times, there was a very inforrrrmative article on *******"
23:20 psydruid; waffle ss
23:20 matey; pancake ss
23:21 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UtlaTNI1TaU
23:21 TR Bot; Parry Gripp Do You Like Waffles? [Official Video] - Invidious
23:22 matey; i like that people are remixing this to make it even MORE ridiculous
23:24 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mYHZhaLsZI4
23:24 TR Bot; "GBI" TOWA TEI - Invidious
23:24 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/30/a78170
23:24 TR Bot; Moscow Summons U.K. Envoy Over Johnsons Putin Remarks: Statement - The Moscow Times
23:25 matey; personally i like the idea of kanji in a "german" font
23:25 matey; i mean what the hell is that?
23:26 matey; german kanji?
23:26 psydruid; is that Kylie Minogue or some lookalike?
23:26 matey; no its really her
23:26 matey; and i bought the album years before i knew it was her
23:26 matey; because i like kieren kirby
23:26 matey; and i saw this video (years later) and i was like
23:27 matey; wtf is that kylie?
23:28 matey; first km video i ever saw: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE
23:28 TR Bot; Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out Of My Head (Official Video) - Invidious
23:28 matey; first place i saw it: uni cafeteria
23:28 matey; i didnt go to that one
23:28 matey; it was in the same city
23:28 psydruid; I saw some before that
23:28 matey; earlier this year i heard from the person i met there
23:28 matey; oh there are lots but i didnt see them
23:28 matey; i didnt have cable back then, and youtube didnt exist yet
23:28 psydruid; one with Nick Cave
23:29 matey; she talented, or something. no, really
23:29 matey; i mean, shes sexy so
23:29 psydruid; and Confide In Me
23:29 matey; theres this dichotomy
23:29 psydruid; yes
23:29 matey; marlene was sexy too
23:29 matey; more than kylie
23:30 matey; she was the best mix of down to earth and ahead of her time
23:32 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TZhUGoxbr-g
23:32 TR Bot; "LOOK ME OVER CLOSELY" by MARLENE DIETRICH - Invidious
23:32 matey; jennifer saunders did a wonderful parody
23:32 matey; or maybe that was edith piaf
23:33 matey; who was basically the french marlene? idk
23:33 matey; marlene was more awesome
23:33 matey; german women are basically pretty men
23:33 matey; and thats their charm
23:34 matey; /me would marry marlene 1000 times
23:35 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UW5RLpdN1kU
23:35 TR Bot; Pretty - Invidious
23:36 matey; i knew this girl in school named kelly
23:37 matey; she was out of her fucking mind but i was mesmerised
23:37 matey; she was like samantha mathis in turn it up
23:37 matey; no
23:37 matey; pump up the volume
23:38 SomeH4x0r; iirc here you normally need to wait a month or so before registering a marriage
23:38 SomeH4x0r; and to marry again, you need to divorce
23:38 matey; well marlene is dead
23:38 matey; and im divorced
23:38 matey; its an imperfect world, clearly
23:38 SomeH4x0r; so I doubt it is possible to marry 1000 times during one's life
23:38 matey; oh no youd have to die and come back
23:39 matey; but supposing you did, shes worth it
23:39 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YPAXoWxiTDo
23:39 TR Bot; Marlene Dietrich, I Will Come Back, Live. - Invidious
23:40 matey; the sound quality
23:40 matey; it burns
23:40 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kFv3krX8m_w
23:40 TR Bot; I Will Come Back Again - Invidious
23:41 matey; /me kicks youtube in the jubleez
23:42 matey; fucking piece of shit
23:42 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=I0wdt98SzEo
23:42 TR Bot; I Will Come Back Again - Invidious
23:43 matey; rosemary clooneys got shit!
23:45 matey; BERNARDO https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tKA0jcN8Mew
23:45 TR Bot; "Love, You Didn't Do Right By Me" -White Christmas (HD 1080p BluRay Print) - Invidious
23:45 matey; (yes bing is a piece of shit on countless levels, its not about him)
23:46 matey; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_papers
23:46 matey; :/
23:46 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_papers
23:46 TR Bot; Pentagon Papers - Wikipedia
23:54 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mriXncI96lw you kind of start to get the point
23:54 TR Bot; Rosemary Clooney - Come On-A My House - Invidious
23:54 matey; james thurber you fucking bastard, what do you think youre doing
23:57 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=seBInAPI32A
23:57 TR Bot; It's a Wonderful Life - Kiss her scene - Invidious
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