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00:25 DaemonFC; I mixed up that 8 ounce car wash concentrate with some dehumidifier water and went over the car again. It got pretty filthy while it was sitting there waiting for that guy to get around to it.
00:25 DaemonFC; https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NWWElOfhMKQrqjzUCLPOotdJ
00:25 MinceR; lol @ qubes
00:26 DaemonFC; I like this Aero Cosmetics stuff. I'll buy it again.
00:26 MinceR; because the only thing that makes your OS more secure than running systemd... is running more instances of systemd.
00:26 DaemonFC; The dehumidifier water makes great stuff to reconstitute it with because it has no minerals in it.
00:26 DaemonFC; So you get your car washed and waxed in one go and you don't leave any spots on it.
00:26 chicksahoy; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psiJuczEoSE
00:26 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=psiJuczEoSE
00:26 TR Bot; y.com.sb | Digital Anti Repression Workshop - Jacob Appelbaum Part 1/2 - April 26 2012 - Invidious
00:26 chicksahoy; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU
00:26 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU
00:26 DaemonFC; I picked up some windshield washer fluid concentrate too.
00:27 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=s9fByRmAHgU )
00:27 DaemonFC; I can reconstitute that with dehumidifier water.
00:27 DaemonFC; It makes 8 gallons and it won't freeze in the winter, and it cost me $6.95, so that's like the price of three gallons ready to use.
00:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The flatkill troll (on github) recommends Qubes OS and says "It's not Linux." and that "Linux is dangerous. Use Windows 10.".
00:29 DaemonFC; MinceR, Your car is dangerous. Buy a Pinto! Or a Kia. Kias are probably easier to find now. It's the same thing really.
00:31 MinceR; lol
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00:31 MinceR; lol @ qubes being "not Linux"
00:31 matey; you know geordi was too nice to say it
00:31 matey; but picard would have never made it in engineering
00:31 MinceR; :>
00:32 matey; i mean he wouldnt have even made it in tech support
00:32 matey; i used to have a modem with FIVE lights on the front-- how am i supposed to tell him?
00:32 matey; THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
00:32 MinceR; lol
00:32 matey; actually i take it back, thats every tech support call ive ever had
00:32 matey; he would be perfect for that, if the starship captain thing doesnt work out
00:33 matey; hello this is jean-luc, have you tried tuhhhning it Ohn and Ohf again?
00:33 matey; "hello, jean-luc"
00:33 matey; "q! i told you, unless you have a problem with your internet connection not to call me here!"
00:33 matey; "oh well, it just so happens ive subscribed"
00:34 matey; "why? youre om-nip-o-tent, you dont NEED an internet connection"
00:34 matey; "yes, but i thought itd be so fun to have one you humans diagnose the issues with it"
00:34 matey; "whats the problem?"
00:34 matey; "its in another galaxy."
00:34 matey; "well, i dont handle that sort of problem anymore"
00:35 matey; om-nip-o-tent is how he pronounces it, you see
00:35 MinceR; lol
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00:36 matey; its subtle, but the shakespearan "penchant" is sort of a H-omage to what kirk did
00:37 matey; KIRK! you dont-- NEED-- an-- internet connection!
00:37 matey; JEAN-LUC-- you dont NEEEEEEED an internet connection
00:37 matey; continutity is very important to star trek
00:37 matey; but ONLY from series to series
00:37 matey; NOT from episode to episode or season to season, obviously
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00:38 matey; continutity <- i did it again
00:38 matey; "it's 'conti-nyuuudity...
00:38 matey; "no! no its not
00:38 matey; "where are your closing quotes?
00:38 matey; "rick berman ran off with them, he said he had an idea
00:38 matey; "go to red alert
00:39 chicksahoy; Citizenfour was an awesome documentary
00:40 matey; im pretty sure all tech support on earth is done by cardassian interrogators
00:41 matey; "im going to sent a reset packet to your modem, that should fix the problem"
00:41 matey; "no it wont! that doesnt do anything at all, and the problem is clearly on your side!"
00:41 matey; "what makes you think that?"
00:41 matey; "probably because your isp is on fire and all the lights are out, and no one else in the city has a connection either"
00:41 matey; "well, we can just send reset packets to them, too"
00:41 matey; "yes, but how!"
00:42 matey; "mobile?"
00:46 matey; i reset packet is a completely imaginary thing, like a wotsit
00:47 matey; so is a reset packet, but its a different type
00:47 matey; a reset packet is a half truth, and therefore a half-lie
00:47 matey; what it really means is
00:47 matey; they know theres a problem on their side, as you havent actually changed your setup at all, but now it has stopped working.
00:48 matey; but, if it was a SERIOUS problem, they would probably mention it (probably)
00:48 matey; so really, a reset packet is a thing they made up that means "we know theres a problem, its just not serious enough for us to admit it and service will be back soon"
00:48 matey; but you have to call and get a reset packet in order for them to tell you this
00:48 DaemonFC; I noticed Capital One has a lot of different phone numbers.
00:49 matey; or, you can NOT call and guess how serious it is instead of simply getting a reset packet.
00:49 DaemonFC; If you have a Savor One card, you can call that number and it sends you to someone in the US.
00:49 DaemonFC; If you have the Quicksilver or Walmart Rewards cards, those send you to the Philippines.
00:49 matey; alternatively, a reset packet is a digital version of a communion wafer, except for modems
00:50 matey; some modems are religious and this is what they have to receive each week in order to stay in good graces with their virtual deity
00:50 matey; but i like my first theory better
00:50 matey; very observant modems will pretend to have connection problems, just to receive it
00:51 matey; their god is willing to overlook this little white lie, as long as its for a higher cause
00:51 matey; this puts the isp in the role of the church
00:52 matey; but personally im surprised they havent already said theyre "bigger than jesus" like the beatles did
00:54 matey; i think some of the isps in the states already claim to be "bigger than satan"
00:55 matey; at&t handed out shirts with this slogan at one of their annual picnics
00:55 matey; ibm replied "no, you arent bigger than me"
00:56 matey; but thats a marketshare argument, the same kind that makes windows seem like it matters
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01:41 matey; i found out what happens when you mock a modems religious beliefs
01:41 matey; but i think the issue was simpler than that and slightly more technical
01:41 matey; new labour managed to hollow out the "welfare state" more efficiently than thatcher, according to some (british) right wing paper
01:41 matey; this is way more relevant than it sounds
01:42 matey; blair signed onto (perpetrated, participated directly in) war crimes, but beyond that
01:42 matey; relevant because while in office his foreign policy was no different from putins
01:42 matey; though xrevan may protest (i welcome him to do so)
01:42 matey; i think the similarities are more important, which isnt the same as saying the differences are irrelevant
01:43 matey; i wanted to mention the hypocrisy of new labour talking about progress
01:43 matey; they moved towards authoritarianism-- towards pushing people into destitution
01:44 matey; towards policies that disenfranchised so many people on both sides of the aisle that it contributed to brexit (imo)
01:45 matey; but after gutting nhs, gutting help for single mums, gutting human rights and even mass murdering people in a country they had about as much business in as putin has in ukraine
01:45 matey; blair has the nerve to describe today (that is, this year) his term as one of PROGRESS!
01:45 matey; what he did was turn the labour party into a complete farce
01:46 matey; since then, others have come along and made it worse still
01:46 matey; but theyll call it progress
01:46 matey; this is not even anti-labour, its anti bullshit
01:46 matey; gutting something and calling it progress should sound familiar to anyone who gives a shit about free software
01:46 matey; because thats what theyve been doing since 2019
01:46 matey; gutting it and calling it progress
01:46 matey; its not an isolated thing at all
01:46 matey; more like a sign of the times
01:47 matey; (no, not those times. though mincer has his fingers crossed)
01:47 matey; ibm and red hat, same deal
01:47 matey; we dont want to gut red hat
01:47 matey; we just want to fund it
01:47 matey; who believed them?
01:47 matey; who believed it would get better with ibm owning it?
01:48 matey; because everyone knows, the real problem red hat was having was lack of funding
01:48 matey; it wasnt lack of integrity, abundance of greed, megalomania or anything like THAT
01:48 matey; they only needed more money to thrive
01:48 matey; now they have it, everything is great
01:49 matey; oh, wait, no
01:49 matey; its much worse
01:49 matey; whos surprised?
01:49 matey; id like to see the labour party fix itself
01:49 matey; unlike the fsf, i think its a distinct possibility
01:49 matey; why?
01:49 matey; unlike with the fsf, there are loads of people committed to restoring the left wing spirit of the labour party
01:50 matey; of course like the fsf, those people have fuck-all in terms of power and influence at the moment
01:50 matey; well, thats not entirely true. theyre building it slowly
01:50 matey; gradually taking it back (unlike the fsf)
01:50 matey; it IS possible to do it
01:50 matey; but only if you have enough people who know what theyre doing
01:50 matey; and of course, none of this is (anytime soon) reflected in the candiates
01:51 matey; theyre as bad as ever, and the people who actually want progress arent fooled by this nonsense
01:51 matey; (again, a parallel-- the few people who actually believe free software is about freedom arent fooled by all this horseshit coming out of the fsf lately)
01:51 matey; progress is not about tiny reforms that are followed by two steps back
01:52 matey; if all you can get is a tiny reform-- you call it what it is, and keep fighting for more
01:52 matey; you dont say "oh hey, this is great! WE WON!"
01:52 matey; open source does that
01:53 matey; it does reform tony blair style-- kill hundreds of thousands of iraqis for profit, put single mums on the street and say its PROGRESS
01:53 matey; open source is what red hat is all about
01:53 matey; its the new labour of free software
01:54 matey; this is by all means, the fake left
01:54 matey; but its not the party i dislike, its the people who have taken it over, who are fraunds
01:54 matey; fucksake
01:54 matey; frauds
01:55 matey; they may also be fronds
01:55 matey; all mr stallman is going to do from now on
01:55 matey; is kowtow to tiny reforms and endorse them, and wave like the queen
01:56 matey; but like with new labour, these tiny reforms are actually steps backwards, framed to look like steps forward
01:56 matey; its not progress when mums suddenly cant pay the rent or feed her kids
01:56 matey; its not progress when a million cameras go up on every corner
01:56 matey; its not progress when every browser has fucking telemetry
01:57 matey; but the worthless software foundation will find a way to make it sound good
01:57 matey; because they want your money
01:57 matey; sure, they can always get handouts from corporations
01:57 matey; but that looks bad
01:57 matey; they want YOU to make them look like they stand for anything
01:57 matey; especially, more than ever, now that they stand for FUCK ALL
01:57 matey; though people who know better wont fall for it
01:57 matey; that goes without saying
01:58 matey; but there are people who claim to know anything that DO fall for it
01:58 matey; or act like they do
01:58 matey; we should feel sorry for those people
01:58 matey; but not too much
01:58 matey; after all, theyre part of the problem
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01:59 matey; they dont have to be, but they are for now
01:59 matey; and just like pretending that the fsf stands for anything, when its plainly clear they dont
02:00 matey; pretending that anyone is helping by propping up bullshit is the same problem on a local level
02:00 matey; and just as pointless
02:00 matey; people shouldnt live in fear of saying its bullshit
02:00 matey; but thats what all this pc bullshit was about
02:00 matey; its not because they care
02:00 matey; its because they dont want people to be able to say what a worthless job theyre doing
02:00 matey; they came in to replace the regime with nothing at all
02:00 matey; theyve done it
02:00 matey; now, you cant say it
02:00 matey; they want you to think you cant say it
02:01 matey; but the more people say how shit it is, the more likely progress will come, from somewhere
02:01 matey; not from the fsf, theyve sold out
02:01 matey; theyre open source now
02:01 matey; theyre not the fsf
02:01 matey; never will be
02:01 matey; the only group of people working their arses off to change the fsf are the shills
02:02 matey; and the lukewarm shits who love tiny reforms that are really steps backward
02:02 matey; lieplanet is their celebration of mediocrity
02:02 matey; the freedom ladder to nowhere
02:03 matey; in ten years, the freedom ladder will be propped up against an alley wall, holding a sign asking for spare change
02:03 matey; on a nearby corner maybe the fsf will be doing the same
02:03 matey; in ten years, the freedom ladder will look less well-taken care of than stallman ever has been (or has allegedly been)
02:04 matey; i mean hes not that much worse off than john lennon ffs
02:04 matey; one was a hacker, the other a world star
02:04 matey; both were assassinated by people who are sociopathic and insane
02:05 matey; who simply wanted to make a name for themselves
02:05 matey; at his expense
02:05 matey; but the freedom ladder is such a joke
02:05 matey; because the people who talk about it dont know where theyre going
02:05 matey; or what theyre doing
02:05 matey; they have no plan
02:05 matey; they dont understand freedom-- at all
02:05 matey; they dont stand for anything, clearly
02:06 matey; they bullshit themselves so they can bullshit other people, so they can raise funds THAT DO NOTHING
02:06 matey; so they can have fake reforms that go backwards
02:06 matey; AND THATS "the freedom ladder"
02:06 matey; its definite step down
02:06 matey; just like stallmans
02:07 matey; the future is ugly
02:07 matey; if we were drunk with anything, its sobriety now
02:07 matey; waking up next an ugly unrecognisable face
02:07 matey; that used to be free software
02:08 matey; people will cling to the past, but that only gets you so much
02:08 matey; at some people theyll have to deal with this ugly future
02:08 matey; SOME PEOPLE are going to instead believe these liars and hopeless hopers
02:08 matey; and see if they have anything to say at all
02:08 matey; spoiler: they have nothing to say
02:08 matey; because they dont know anything about freedom
02:09 matey; freedom is hard work
02:09 matey; these people came in and thought they could make it easier
02:09 matey; thought it was hard because stallman made it difficult
02:09 matey; freedom is difficult
02:09 matey; if you get rid of the people who understand it, it doesnt get easier
02:09 matey; because it wasnt them who made it so much trouble
02:09 matey; surprise, it was freedom itself thats an insufferable pain in the arse
02:09 matey; you thought stallman was bad?
02:09 matey; wait until you (lieplanet cunts) see a mirror someday
02:10 matey; stallman wasnt half as bad
02:10 matey; no one wants anything to do with a bunch of know-nothing lying cunts who think the fsf wasnt authoritarian enough
02:10 matey; new labour
02:10 matey; its not labour at all
02:10 matey; new fsf
02:10 matey; its not free software at all
02:10 matey; lots of luck, fuckers
02:11 matey; there will be free software
02:11 matey; it wont come from these pretenders
02:11 matey; who know nothing about it
02:11 matey; we knew they were fakes when they were taking over
02:11 matey; now theyve taken over. still fake as hell
02:12 matey; you want obedience, youll have obedient fools
02:14 matey; free software will come from people who dont get permission
02:14 matey; not from stallman
02:14 matey; not from corporations
02:14 matey; not from lieplanet
02:14 matey; only now its going to take longer
02:14 matey; thats what counterrevolutions do
02:14 matey; they slow things down
02:14 DaemonFC; <matey> alternatively, a reset packet is a digital version of a communion wafer, except for modems
02:14 matey; not insignificantly
02:15 DaemonFC; I thought you couldn't take communion if you had an abortion.
02:15 matey; weve lost a good decade to shit like this
02:15 matey; but the counterrevolution is decades old
02:16 matey; the movement still had enough momentum that a decade into open source
02:16 matey; free software was still going
02:16 matey; from 2011 it started to slow down, and since 2014 its been in a slow reverse
02:16 matey; history repeats itself-- first as a tragedy
02:16 matey; then as a farce
02:16 matey; the fsf is that farce. lieplanet is that farce
02:17 matey; for software to be free, now it will have to move past ALL of that
02:17 matey; or, it can play pretend, with a bunch of idiots who make arts and crafts out of their armpit hair or something
02:18 matey; and have the audacity (the gall as well as the shitty telemetry-laden former application) to say stallmans weird
02:18 matey; thats what happens when everything is run by hypocrites and backstabbers
02:18 matey; seriously
02:18 matey; what did you suspect?
02:20 matey; people think if we pretend its getting better, it magically will
02:20 matey; not if we cant be honest
02:20 matey; when they ban honesty, its clear they cant work within that sort of restriction
02:20 matey; they need to be able to bullshit people
02:20 matey; for their plan to work
02:20 matey; that by itself should clue people in to what the future looks like
02:21 matey; they didnt ban criticism of the people who came before, obviously
02:21 matey; youre only banned from criticising the changes
02:21 matey; what else do you need to know about the new fsf
02:21 matey; what else would be necessary to prove what its future looks like?
02:22 matey; some people just want to pretend
02:22 matey; thats fine. but theyre idiots
02:22 matey; whats more, they wont bring us anything but fake reforms, fake progress, steps backwards
02:22 matey; thats enough reason to not suck up to them
02:22 matey; other than the fact that they dont deserve respect
02:23 matey; who respects such people?
02:23 matey; only the same sort of person
02:23 matey; idiots, fakes. shills.
02:23 matey; but lets be nice. there are more suckers than deliberate shills
02:23 matey; shills never learn. suckers sometimes get smarter
02:24 matey; so we can hope for the best in that regard, as long as we dont get too optimistic
02:24 matey; but sucking up to them is a hilarious non-plan sort of plan
02:24 matey; its fine, if you like useless
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03:04 DaemonFC; MinceR, I'm bidding on a Bose Wave Radio III.
03:04 DaemonFC; Just for the hell of it.
03:04 DaemonFC; If I can get it cheaply enough then it might be worth it.
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03:56 DaemonFC; MinceR, The Wave Music System IV gets mixed reviews.
03:56 DaemonFC; A lot of people are saying it eats their CDs and won't give them back or play them and the whole thing dies after 6-7 months.
03:56 DaemonFC; Well, that was $500+tax well spent.
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05:43 TR News; "This is also great because I can use shorthand in the daily log (I need to use longhand for prep so that the players can verify stuff, but logs arent prep)" https://idiomdrottning.org/dnd-logging | Source: Idiomdrottning
05:43 TR Bot; Daily logging on al-Toril
05:44 TR News; "In other words the game is a directed acyclic graph. Going through the entire book and writing it out as a Graphviz file, this is what the adventure looks like." https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/05/a-look-in-game-design-of-choose-your.html | Source: Jussi Pakkanen
05:44 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: A look in the game design of choose-your-own-adventure books
05:44 TR News; ">Haiku currently uses a fork of Perforce Jam as its build system. While Jam is a great build system, its legacy codebase makes it difficult to fix bugs or introduce new features" https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/dominicm/2022-05-25_gsoc_2022_ham_a_jam_replacement/ | Source: HaikuOS
05:44 TR Bot; [GSoC 2022] Ham: A Jam Replacement | Haiku Project
05:45 TR News; "OpenBSD has provided binary patches for a select few architectures for a while now, to save users from the daunting task of running make on their own." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/reversing-an-openbsd-syspatch | Source: Ted Unangst
05:45 TR Bot; reversing an openbsd kernel syspatch
05:45 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/28/authorities-say-registered-violent-offender-dressed-up-as-cub-scout-attended-meeting-with-young-children-in-lake-zurich/
05:45 TR Bot; Authorities say registered violent offender dressed up as Cub Scout, attended meeting with young children in Lake Zurich
05:45 DaemonFC; A 40 year old man.... What was their first clue he wasn't a Cub Scout?
05:45 TR News; "These topics came up again and again this week, a decade later. Half a dozen panels mentioned the challenge of figuring out a business model that offsets the ongoing cost of smart devices." https://staceyoniot.com/the-smart-home-is-stuck-in-stasis-and-im-stuck-in-dallas/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
05:45 TR Bot; The smart home is stuck in stasis (and I'm stuck in Dallas) - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
05:46 DaemonFC; "Neil J. Pawelczak, 40, of the 2200 block of Aloha Drive in McHenry, was charged with two counts of violating the sex offender registry, a Class 4 felony."
05:46 DaemonFC; Well, say Aloha to him.
05:48 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/28/waukegan-man-ordered-held-without-bond-for-shooting-into-occupied-car-during-apparent-road-rage-in-mchenry/
05:48 TR Bot; Waukegan man ordered held without bond for shooting into occupied car during apparent road rage in McHenry
05:49 DaemonFC; The felon, Waukegan Man, had a gun even though it was already illegal for him to have one.
05:49 DaemonFC; The law abiding citizen had to fend him off with....pepper spray.
05:49 DaemonFC; Illinois.
05:50 DaemonFC; "Marek said that the dashcam video clearly depicts Colons face and the image was compared to Secretary of State records."
05:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz, There you go. The dashcam was compared to the license branch records, and then they knew who he was. Facial recognition.
05:52 DaemonFC; Neither the driver, nor the shooter, should have been released from prison to begin with for what they had done previously.
05:52 DaemonFC; If we had done things the way I would, this wouldn't have happened.
05:52 DaemonFC; They'd be in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives getting their meals through a slot in the door.
05:54 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/05/23/2-hospitalized-after-three-vehicle-crash-that-left-car-fully-engulfed-in-flames-in-lincolnshire/
05:54 TR Bot; 2 hospitalized after three-vehicle crash that left car fully engulfed in flames in Lincolnshire
05:55 DaemonFC; MinceR, "Run Marty! It's the Libyans!"
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 231.36
06:03 TR News; "The SparkFun MicroMod Single Pair Ethernet Function Board introduces 10BASE-T1L Two-Wire Ethernet protocol into the SparkFun MicroMod ecosystem." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4635 | Source: SparkFun Electronics
06:03 TR Bot; Pair Ethernet with MicroMod - News - SparkFun Electronics
06:04 TR News; "he door in question is quite heavy, but OHara had a beefy motor with a gearbox to increase the torque. That pulls the door open by reeling in a wire via a pulley." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/28/using-the-force-to-open-a-door/ | Source: Arduino
06:04 TR Bot; Using The Force to open a door | Arduino Blog
06:04 TR News; "As someone who has spent a bit too much time nerding out over space and atmospheric weather, but never touched seismology, I decided it was time to dig deep and learn a bit more about the Earth" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/watching-earth-move-raspberry-pi | Source: Jeff Geerling
06:04 TR Bot; Watching the Earth move with a Raspberry Pi | Jeff Geerling
06:05 TR News; "The first thing to check is the audio amp and filter. The unique thing about this is that it requires a -5v to generate some of the waveform. Guess what? -5v wasnt there, instead it was +0.75v." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/05/24/amiga-1000-restoration-audio-repair/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
06:05 TR Bot; Amiga 1000 Restoration: Audio Repair LinuxJedi's /dev/null
06:05 TR News; "In this post, Ill walk through how I chose the parts, what mistakes I made, and my recommendations for anyone interested in building their own" https://mtlynch.io/budget-nas/ | Source: Michael Lynch
06:05 TR Bot; a Budget Homelab NAS Server (2022 Edition) mtlynch.io
06:08 TR News; "If youre coming to M1 Mac fresh, without any old projects or profiles, you probably wont notice; Homebrew will work as it always has." https://earthly.dev/blog/homebrew-on-m1/ | Source: Earthly
06:08 TR Bot; Using Homebrew on M1 Mac - Earthly Blog
06:08 TR News; "Please dont let this be another hang up if youve considered writing but are worried about how often you could post. A well written post about a project every other year is already hugely valuable." https://rubenerd.com/prematurely-labelling-rss-feeds-as-inactive/ | Source: Ruben Schade
06:08 TR Bot; Prematurely labelling RSS feeds as inactive
06:09 TR News; "Just like weve recently done with Vivaldi, the enthusiasts browser, weve highlighted the top 8 reasons to quit Chrome and make the switch to Firefox. Lets dig in." https://www.pcworld.com/article/704687/8-reasons-to-ditch-chrome-and-switch-to-firefox.html | Source: PC World
06:09 TR Bot; reasons to ditch Chrome and switch to Firefox | PCWorld
06:12 TR News; "Today, while looking at previously-logged data in preparation for consumption of future similar data, I discovered to my horror, that tinylog(8) truncates lines at what I first assumed was 1024 but actually is 1000 bytes" https://jpmens.net/2022/05/25/a-backup-is-only-as-good-as/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens
06:12 TR Bot; Jan-Piet Mens :: A backup is only as good as ...
06:12 TR News; "Here's another note-to-self on using jq to shape JSON representations of OData to match what's returned using system query options. Thsi time it's all filtering at two levels" https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/05/28/multiple-level-filters-in-jq/ | Source: DJ Adams
06:12 TR Bot; Multiple level filters in jq | DJ Adams
06:13 TR News; "So far I have a simple clojure notebook with coarse-grained incremental maintenance. There are data cells that can be mutated by other code, with the changes being persisted back into the cell." https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/log/0024/ | Source: Jamie Brandon
06:13 TR Bot; 0024: HYTRADBOI postmortem, HYTWACFI?, preimp, emergent ventures, data and reality, merkle search trees, readyset, julia compilation times
06:13 TR News; "Initially, I had written a quick and dirty AVX-512 kernel for simdjson. We never merged it and after a time, I just deleted it. I then forgot about it." https://lemire.me/blog/2022/05/25/parsing-json-faster-with-intel-avx-512/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
06:13 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/05/25/parsing-json-faster-with-intel-avx-512/ )
06:14 TR News; "Best Books on Data Science with Python, In the subject of data science, Python is one of the most extensively used programming languages" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/05/best-books-on-data-science-with-python/ | Source: Rlang
06:14 TR Bot; Books on Data Science with Python | R-bloggers
06:14 TR News; "A new project has been released which seeks to teach people how to use a UNIX style shell via a game-like experience" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/gameshell-interactive-game-for-learning | Source: Bryan Lunduke
06:14 TR Bot; "GameShell" interactive game for learning Linux shell commands
06:15 TR News; "This report, by Aaron Gordon for Motherboard, looks like a hypothetical dreamed up by a particularly cruel constitutional law professor:" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/27/san-francisco-cops-are-accessing-autonomous-vehicle-recordings-to-collect-evidence/ | Source: Techdirt
06:15 TR Bot; Francisco Cops Are Accessing Autonomous Vehicle Recordings To Collect Evidence | Techdirt
06:16 TR News; "Taiwan based Cincoze, released a compact and robust PC that is powered by 9/8th Gen Intel Core CPUs (i7, i5, i3) and up to 128GB of DDR4 memory" https://linuxgizmos.com/coffee-lake-based-rugged-pc-offers-flexible-display-support-and-extensive-storage-capacity/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
06:16 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/coffee-lake-based-rugged-pc-offers-flexible-display-support-and-extensive-storage-capacity/ )
06:16 TR News; "In this guide, we will cover how to install RHEL 9 step by step along with screenshots. Before jumping into the installation steps, lets look at new features and improvements in RHEL 9." https://www.linuxtechi.com/how-to-install-rhel-9-step-by-step/ |
06:16 TR Bot; How to Install RHEL 9 Step by Step with Screenshots
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06:27 TR News; "Kleptopia is a nonfiction chronicle of international financial corruption and money laundering told via a focus on the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-06-323613-3.html
06:27 TR Bot; Review: Kleptopia by Tom Burgis
06:28 TR News; PulseAudio 16.0 release notes https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/16.0/
06:28 TR Bot; 16.0
06:30 IPFS; Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi
06:30 TR News; OpenPGP Email Summit https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/29/europe-trip-journal-entry-24-26-openpgp-email-summit/
06:30 TR Bot; Europe Trip Journal Entry 24 26: OpenPGP Email Summit vanitasvitae's blog
06:33 TR News; kpcyrd: auth-tarball-from-git: Verifying tarballs with signed git tags https://vulns.xyz/2022/05/auth-tarball-from-git/
06:33 TR Bot; Verifying tarballs with signed git tags - vulns.xyz
06:35 DaemonFC; Red Hat was moving more towards an opaque-source model a long time before IBM bought them.
06:35 DaemonFC; But they got really nasty after the CentOS debacle.
06:35 DaemonFC; Nobody, even Rocky, knows what's actually in their kernel.
06:36 DaemonFC; You can see the entirety of the source, which technically complies with the license, but all you can really do with it is build it. It's a lot of source code, and even if you did pay people to audit it all to make sure Red Hat didn't slip in nasty things like backdoors, they just bump the kernel all the time anyway.
06:37 DaemonFC; So there's nobody looking, as far as I'm aware of, to see what's actually in the thing, because with that much source code, nobody can.
06:37 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: are you writing about WSL and the FUD?
06:37 DaemonFC; Oh, that stalled out this evening. I caught the mail room bandit!
06:37 DaemonFC; Chased her out and got her plate number and called it in to the police.
06:37 DaemonFC; Make, model, color, plate.
06:37 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165364
06:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
06:38 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: This Week in Linux, Sudo Show, Why Dont Linux Terminals Show The Pasword You Type Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165365
06:38 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: This Week in Linux, Sudo Show, Why Don't Linux Terminals Show The Pasword You Type | Tux Machines
06:38 TR News; "FreeBSD 13.1 stable version is officially released. This tutorial walks you through the steps to upgrade to FreeBSD 13.1 from FreeBSD 12.3 and older versions." https://ostechnix.com/how-to-upgrade-to-freebsd-13-from-freebsd-12/ |
06:38 TR Bot; To Upgrade To FreeBSD 13 From FreeBSD 12 - OSTechNix
06:39 TR News; iophk: NYT intentionally mischaracterizes the topic; the "self-service" program is missing 99% of what is needed; https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/new-york-times-contributes-to-poor-apple:7
06:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Yes, WSL is attack surface. Everything they put into Windows is attack surface. And we should mention that not only is it attack surface, it's a compatibility later. A lousy compatibility layer on a lousy OS. Which is exactly what SCO did.
06:39 TR Bot; New York Times contributes to poor Apple self-repair program coverage
06:39 DaemonFC; The Linux Kernel Personality may have even infringed the GPL, but nobody bothered to sue SCO.
06:39 DaemonFC; Even with everything SCO was doing.
06:40 TR News; FB = social control media https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/05/21/how-facebook-let-fake-engagement-distort-global-politics/
↺ https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/05/21/how-facebook-let-fake-engagement-distort-global-politics/
06:40 TR Bot; How Facebook let fake engagement distort global politics neritam
06:40 TR News; old: NTFS is toxin inside Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/problems_for_the_linux_kernel_ntfs/
06:40 TR Bot; Linux kernel NTFS driver author goes silent The Register
06:40 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165366
06:40 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
06:40 DaemonFC; In the end, I think SCO just paid a consultant to go digging and all he came back with was that a few header files looked vaguely similar to the UNIX kernel's, and then they got expert testimony that there really was no way to implement such a thing other than that, and then the judge ruled that SCO didn't even own UNIX anyway.
06:41 DaemonFC; What a mess, and it was all Microsoft's seed money funding this.
06:41 DaemonFC; That was their second phase in the attack.
06:42 DaemonFC; The first one was ignore or trivialize it, then they paid terrorists to pop up and make the thing look dangerous to use, and now they're embedded in the "open source community" working to sabotage everything all at once from within. And the pay offs aren't even expensive in most cases.
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06:43 DaemonFC; And so we're in this third phase now, and WSL is part of this phase. When will they give up on it? Like Google, they burn things down and walk away when it becomes real work for them all the time.
06:43 DaemonFC; So you should hope you don't have a workflow that depends on it for that reason as well.
06:45 DaemonFC; We know Microsoft didn't want to ship a Linux kernel, but the Linux kernel simulation they were paying people to write was so bad it was hysterically funny. They had to maintain that it was "clean" from knowledge of anything GPL, so it meant people at Microsoft writing something with only some vague concept of how Linux actually worked.
06:46 TR News; How to Store an SSH Key on a Yubikey https://xeiaso.net/blog/yubikey-ssh-key-storage |
06:46 DaemonFC; WSL gives applications running in it full access to the host with the goal that to the user it will appear seamless. And here's the problem. Whenever Microsoft comes face to face with ease-of-use vs. security, security loses.
06:46 TR Bot; How to Store an SSH Key on a Yubikey - Xe
06:47 DaemonFC; Virtualization gives you the opportunity to wall off the guest, but WSL doesn't.
06:48 TR News; "What adding this header does is exclude your website from being used when calcualting a users cohort. A cohort is an identifier shared with a few thousand other users" https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/04/16/permissions-policy-floc-misinfo/ | Source: Rohan Kumar
06:48 TR Bot; Misinfo about Permissions Policy and FLoC - Seirdy
06:48 TR News; "Last night the news broke that DuckDuckGo have been effectively whitelisting Microsoft trackers in their browser as a result of their agreement with the tech giant. Brilliant." https://kevq.uk/is-duckduckgo-duckduckdone/ | Source: Kev Quirk
06:48 TR Bot; Is DuckDuckGo, DuckDuckDone? - Kev Quirk
06:48 TR News; "I did narrow it down: it turns out that the Go Module Mirror runs some crawlers that periodically clone Git repositories with Go modules in them to check for updates." https://drewdevault.com/2022/05/25/Google-has-been-DDoSing-sourcehut.html | Source: Drew DeVault
06:48 TR Bot; Google has been DDoSing SourceHut for over a year
06:48 TR News; DuckDuckGo is too privacy what 'secure' boot is to computer security
06:50 TR News; "OpenIKED 7.1 was released on May 23rd, 2022." https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220527103136 | Source: Undeadly
06:50 TR Bot; OpenIKED 7.1 released
06:50 TR News; "You know what I also love? Playing with various email providers and client applications. Currently I maintain accounts with the following vendors (listed in order of preference): [...]" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/05/27/email-mania/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
06:50 TR Bot; Email Mania - (think)
06:51 TR News; "This pandemic has raised the ratio of remote jobs in the past few years and the ticket to success lies within it." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/5-most-high-demand-skillsets-for-remote-jobs/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks
06:51 TR Bot; 5 Most High-Demand Skillsets For Remote Jobs - GeeksforGeeks
06:51 TR News; "Buying a keyboard, should be like buying an office chair. Youve got to test it, find whether you like it or not, and only then buy it." https://afhub.dev/2022/05/26/is-there-a-perfect-keyboard/ | Source: Andre Franca
06:51 TR Bot; Is there a perfect keyboard?
06:52 TR News; "Of course, heavy social-media use really can threaten a relationship." https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/05/terminally-online-relationship-dating-similarities/629946/ | Source: The Atlantic
06:52 TR Bot; Is Online Presence a Turnoff? - The Atlantic
06:54 TR News; PulseAudio 16.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165367
06:54 TR Bot; PulseAudio 16.0 | Tux Machines
06:58 TR News; PulseAudio 16 Released with Bluetooth Improvements, Opus Support in RTP Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165368
06:58 TR Bot; PulseAudio 16 Released with Bluetooth Improvements, Opus Support in RTP Modules | Tux Machines
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:01 TR News; "A major criticism of Bitcoin is that its blockchain processes only around 230K transactions/day, of which only about 10% are "economically meaningful." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/05/cryptocurrency-catch-22.html | Source: David Rosenthal
07:01 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Cryptocurrency Catch-22
07:02 TR News; "Ruediger Loechenhoff has been able to create a far cheaper solar tracker controller, which relies on an Arduino Uno to drive a set of two motors that position the panel." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/24/this-sun-tracker-uses-an-arduino-to-increase-solar-panel-efficiency/ | Source: Arduino
07:02 TR Bot; This sun tracker uses an Arduino to increase solar panel efficiency | Arduino Blog
07:03 TR News; "In one important respect, upload filtering is worse than content moderation. The latter can be circumvented by the use of algospeak that constantly evolves to stay one step ahead of the filtering." https://walledculture.org/even-algospeak-wont-save-us-from-upload-filter-overblocking/ | Source: Walled Culture
07:03 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/even-algospeak-wont-save-us-from-upload-filter-overblocking/ )
07:09 TR News; Schrems https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/max-schrems-paa-v2-security-ny-dataaftale-med-usa-bliver-noget-skrald
07:09 TR Bot; Max Schrems p V2 Security: Ny dataaftale med USA bliver noget skrald | Version2
07:09 TR News; EU against privacy https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/chatkontrolle-messenger-ueberwachung-duerfte-an-deutschland-scheitern-a-61338f80-839f-4798-b8d9-180e7a5bb711
07:10 TR Bot; Chatkontrolle: Messenger-berwachung drfte an Deutschland scheitern - DER SPIEGEL
07:10 TR News; GDPR https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/tillykke-med-foedselsdagen-de-vigtigste-gdpr-begivenheder-det-seneste-aar
07:10 TR Bot; GDPR fylder fire: Her er de vigtigste sager det seneste r | Version2
07:10 TR News; Also GDPR https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/05/25/gdpr-fyller-fyra-ar-men-hur-blev-det-egentligen/
07:10 TR Bot; GDPR fyller fyra r men hur blev det egentligen?
07:10 TR News; What Happened on Day 94 of the War in Ukraine - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/28/world/russia-ukraine-war/it-destroys-bunkers-russia-systematically-uses-thermobaric-warheads-in-ukraine Source: nytimes
07:10 TR Bot; What Happened on Day 94 of the War in Ukraine - The New York Times
07:11 TR News; Why Disinformation Has Flourished During the Pandemic - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/27/0943201 Source: soylentnews
07:11 TR Bot; Why Disinformation Has Flourished During the Pandemic - SoylentNews
07:12 TR News; MPA https://torrentfreak.com/sued-iptv-operator-is-curious-about-mpas-involvement-with-torrentfreak-220528/ | Source: Torrent Freak
07:12 TR Bot; IPTV Operator is Curious About MPA's "Involvement" With TorrentFreak * TorrentFreak
07:13 TR News; Alaska https://www.propublica.org/article/sniffen-alaska-ag-sexual-assault-charges | Pro Publica has meanwhile taken bribes from Jeffrey Epstein's enabler, famous criminal Bill Gates
07:13 TR Bot; Alaska Charges Former Acting Attorney General With Sexual Abuse of a Minor ProPublica
07:14 TR News; Covid-19 Patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/28/world-leaders-must-commit-end-covid-19-patents-nobel-laureate-muhammad-yunus | Source: Common Dreams
07:14 TR Bot; World Leaders Must Commit to End Covid-19 Patents: Nobel Laureate Muhammad Yunus
07:15 TR News; Real Change Will Bubble Up Not Trickle Down https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/28/real-change-will-bubble-not-trickle-down | Source: Common Dreams
07:15 TR Bot; Opinion | Real Change Will Bubble Up Not Trickle Down | Michael J. Illuzzi
07:17 TR News; "The video, with more than 181,000 views, in which top U.S. officials in 2014 discuss changing the Ukrainian government, had been removed from YouTube after more than 8 years" https://scheerpost.com/2022/05/28/nuland-pyatt-video-restored-to-youtube/ | Source: Scheerpost
07:17 TR Bot; Video Restored to YouTube scheerpost.com
07:19 TR News; "[Alexander] created codex_py2cpp as a way of experimenting with Codex, an AI intended to translate natural language into code." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/28/ai-attempts-converting-python-code-to-c/ | Source: Hackaday
07:19 TR Bot; Attempts Converting Python Code To C++ | Hackaday
07:19 TR News; "With the Great Chip Shortage still delaying deliveries of new components, now might be a good time to look around your lab and inspect those piles of chips that you thought might come in handy one day." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/28/hackaday-prize-2022-reuse-those-dip-chips-to-make-a-1980s-style-single-board-computer/ | Source: Hackaday
07:19 TR Bot; Prize 2022: Reuse Those DIP Chips To Make A 1980s-Style Single-Board Computer | Hackaday
07:20 TR News; "In 2004, high-ranking staffers in the George W. Bush administration spearheaded a holistic review of the president's emergency powers" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/28/new-documents-reveal-just-how-much-emergency-power-us-government-thinks-it-might | Source: Common Dreams
07:20 TR Bot; Opinion | New Documents Reveal Just How Much 'Emergency Power' the US Government Thinks It Might Have | Benjamin Waldman
07:21 TR News; "If theres something weird in your Network Neighborhood, who you gonna call? If you want your WiFi troubles diagnosed in style, try calling [Travis Kaun] he might just show up wearing the amazing Pwnton Pack." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/28/track-down-ghosts-in-your-wifi-with-the-pwnton-pack/ | Source: Hackaday
07:21 TR Bot; Down Ghosts In Your WiFi With The Pwnton Pack | Hackaday
07:40 DaemonFC; I ordered all the stuff I need to make an air purifier.
07:40 DaemonFC; Some small command strips, some MERV 13 furnace filters 20x20, and a 20" box fan.
07:41 DaemonFC; 3M seems to know people do it. They have an "air purifier kit" they sell, but it's cheaper to order the command strips and filters separately.
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07:51 TR News; Links 29/05/2022: PulseAudio 16.0 and Fresh Complaints About COVID-19 Patents | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/pulseaudio-16-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/pulseaudio-16-0/
07:51 TR Bot; Links 29/05/2022: PulseAudio 16.0 and Fresh Complaints About COVID-19 Patents | Techrights
07:53 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165369
07:53 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
07:53 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165370
07:53 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
07:53 TR News; Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165371
07:53 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
07:53 TR News; Compile GNOME Shell and Apps From Source [Beginners Guide] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165372
07:53 TR Bot; Compile GNOME Shell and Apps From Source [Beginner's Guide] | Tux Machines
07:54 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165373
07:54 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:59 TR News; Those faces... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oj4YqEk3ImQ
07:59 TR Bot; Full time SCENES as Real Madrid beat Liverpool in Champions League final - Invidious
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08:10 TR News; "Intel recently updated the oneAPI Video Processing Library, also known as oneVPL, to version 2022.1. The new update changes Intel's focus on VA-API and Media SDK to the current standard of oneAPI acceleration." https://wccftech.com/intel-adds-arc-a-series-rocky-linux-and-multi-gpu-support-to-onevpl-2022-1/
08:10 TR Bot; Intel adds Arc GPU, Rocky Linux, & multi-GPU functionality support to oneVPL 2022.1
08:11 TR News; Paul E. Mc Kenney: Stupid RCU Tricks: How Read-Intensive is The Kernel's Use of RCU? https://paulmck.livejournal.com/67547.html
08:11 TR Bot; Stupid RCU Tricks: How Read-Intensive is The Kernel's Use of RCU? - Paul E. McKenney's Journal LiveJournal
08:11 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165374
08:11 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:11 TR News; Annotate PDFs On Linux With PDFrankenstein Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165375
08:11 TR Bot; Annotate PDFs On Linux With PDFrankenstein | Tux Machines
08:43 TR News; Software Patents: "'668 patent generally relates to mapping population activity by discerning a location" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/23/3000-awarded-for-gridley-ip-prior-art
08:43 TR Bot; $3,000 awarded for Gridley IP prior art Unified Patents
08:44 TR News; "Unified is pleased to announce PATROLL crowdsourcing contest winner, Ramesh Varadharaj, who was awarded a cash prize of $2,000 for his prior art submission for U.S. Patent 8,495,167." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/23/lauri-valjakka-prior-art-found-2000-awarded
08:44 TR Bot; Lauri Valjakka prior art found, $2,000 awarded Unified Patents
08:47 TR News; "The '113 patent relates to generating artist-specified dynamic albums." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/25/3000-for-dynamic-ip-deals-entity-escapex-ip-prior-art
08:47 TR Bot; $3,000 for Dynamic IP Deals entity Escapex IP prior art Unified Patents
08:49 TR News; Software Patents: "The 275 patent is generally related to financial document retrieval and storage systems and has been asserted against Bank of America, Wells Fargo, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Capital One, PNC Bank, BancorpSouth Bank, and others." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/5/27/mirror-imaging-patent-likely-invalid
08:49 TR Bot; Mirror Imaging patent likely invalid Unified Patents
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09:00 TR News; The Boards of Appeal are still kangaroo courts in the EPO https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=563e7f23-7161-4fb0-8de6-a798caece9a1 see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
09:00 TR Bot; EPO Guideline for description amendments remain - Lexology
09:00 TR Bot; G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
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09:45 TR News; You cannot opt in and out of things that do not exist
09:45 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 28, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/irc-log-280522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/irc-log-280522/
09:45 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 28, 2022 | Techrights
09:56 TR News; "This was also my understanding of the origin of the EPO's new approach to adaptation of the description. If this explanation is true, then it is deeply troubling in many ways." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/05/board-of-appeal-agrees-that-description.html?showComment=1653566353836#c1219961219872815923
09:56 TR Bot; Board of Appeal agrees that the description amendment requirement lacks legal basis (T 1444/20) - The IPKat
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10:57 TR News; rceptions/
10:58 TR News; Gallery of Patent Law Firms That Still Lie, Still Promote Illegal Agenda, and Casually Game the Media to Mischievously Shape Perceptions http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gallery-of-patent-law-firms-that-still-lie-still-promote-illegal-agenda-and-casually-game-the-media-to-mischievously-shape-perceptions/
10:58 TR Bot; Gallery of Patent Law Firms That Still Lie, Still Promote Illegal Agenda, and Casually Game the Media to Mischievously Shape Perceptions | Techrights
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11:29 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/conditions-of-josh-duggars-supervised-release-after-prison-are-not-typical-but-appropriate-judge-says/
11:29 TR Bot; Conditions of Josh Duggars supervised release after prison are not typical, but appropriate, judge says | WGN-TV
11:29 DaemonFC; There should be two conditions.
11:30 DaemonFC; 1. The electric chair. 2. The electric chair.
11:31 DaemonFC; I figured it was such a good condition, mention it a second time.
11:43 matey; priti patel has created a law in the uk that runs contrary to international law, by criminalising asylum seeking by irregular means
11:44 matey; most asylum seeking is by "irregular means" due to the circumstances of people who neeed asylum in the first place
11:44 DaemonFC; There's no "international law" regarding immigration.
11:45 matey; its a bit like saying you cant claim sanctuary in a church if you didnt knock and wait for someone to come to the door, even if the door was open
11:45 DaemonFC; Each country can maintain its own system as they see fit, including criminalizing it, or further criminalizing asking for asylum after illegally immigrating and then getting caught and using an asylum application to gum up the works.
11:45 matey; but again, this is counter to international law
11:45 DaemonFC; Again, there is no real "international law".
11:46 DaemonFC; There are only treaties, and the treaties are what each country has agreed to with other countries, and there are no penalties for violating the treaty, you just rip it up.
11:46 matey; beyond that, its basically a huge fuck you to people who are fleeing persecution, the entire point of asylum being humanitarian and a demonstration of the fact that some places give a shit about the persecution of groups, because theyre good countries
11:46 DaemonFC; Treaties are sort of an agreement in principle that lacks an enforcement mechanism.
11:46 matey; these days, no one cares about that. at least by numbers.
11:47 DaemonFC; Well, bad apples ruin it for everyone.
11:47 matey; in the usa theyre no different. "come here legally"
11:47 DaemonFC; Why do you think I'm going through such hell with US Immigration with Mandy?
11:47 DaemonFC; Everyone tries to game the system somehow.
11:47 DaemonFC; They get caught illegally immigrating here so they throw some bullshit fear of returning to their country.
11:47 matey; they dont understand (nor care to understand) how asylum actually works, so theyre content to see it gutted and people who fled the sort of regimes they claim to be against during illegal invasions
11:48 matey; i mean, they dont want "illegal invasions" of people fleeing bad countries
11:48 DaemonFC; They make something up so the Immigration people have to let them go with a court date that 80% of them don't return for.
11:48 matey; but illegal invasions OF those countries
11:48 matey; the entire thing is based on opportunism and double standards
11:48 DaemonFC; That is what these immigrant caravans are.
11:48 DaemonFC; They're declaring an invasion of the United States, which opens up an interesting concept.
11:48 matey; we can go there and kill people "because tyrants"
11:48 matey; but if those same people who would be "liberated"
11:49 DaemonFC; Texas Governor Abbott says that Texas is being invaded, which is true.
11:49 matey; DONT come here, STAY there, wait for us to invade and exploit your resources and set up a puppet government
11:49 matey; then you wont NEED to flee
11:49 DaemonFC; And the US Constitution says that a state cannot declare war or use military force, "unless it has actually been invaded".
11:49 DaemonFC; Since they are being invaded, it would seem to imply that Texas has the legal authority to use military force to repel the invasion, since the president isn't helping them.
11:50 matey; of course theres a word for that. bollocks.
11:50 matey; the first world runs entirely on bullshit
11:50 DaemonFC; Texas is arresting and detaining immigrants by themselves.
11:50 matey; the rest of the world isnt exactly a haven of humanity either
11:50 DaemonFC; They can do that under all sorts of state laws.
11:51 matey; you can hardly blame people like mincer for coming to the conclusion he does
11:51 matey; though at the moment the problem is not enough people give a shit at the same time
11:51 matey; it isnt even the fact that they dont agree on a solution
11:51 DaemonFC; They can't necessarily set their own immigration laws, but they can do things like arrest them for trespassing and then make sure it's going to take them 3-4 years to get a trial for trespassing, while they wait in jail or agree to return to Mexico.
11:52 matey; because when enough people actually give a shit, agreeing (sufficiently at least) on solutions is a sort of natural byproduct to some degree
11:52 matey; people are willing to take solutions seriously enough when they agree on the nature of the problem
11:52 matey; when enough people actually give a shit, it stops being rocket science.
11:52 DaemonFC; I don't know why we have to let everyone walk in and say they're here when Mandy had to go through the legal process of getting his Green Card.
11:52 DaemonFC; We just let these people in who didn't build anything in their own country and then they want welfare and jobs and shit here?
11:52 matey; its only hopelessly complicated when not enough people agree on the nature of the problem
11:52 DaemonFC; No thanks.
11:53 matey; similarly, when enough people realise why free software is failing, the solutions wont seem so complicated
11:53 matey; they werent when free software actually understood the problem
11:53 DaemonFC; If you're actually going to be murdered or unjustly imprisoned if we send you back, that is the ONLY reason why we should consider your case.
11:53 matey; years of lobbying have created DIFFERENT, unsolvable problems, and softer, easier to implement, and utterly useless "solutions"
11:53 DaemonFC; Everyone else should get a one way ticket back where they came from if they didn't enter legally.
11:54 matey; it really is failing to understand the problem that makes it so impossible to solve
11:54 DaemonFC; We shouldn't be heartless, but we shouldn't be chumps just because their country isn't so good.
11:54 matey; and getting people to not understand the problem is a core goal of fake progress
11:54 matey; including lieplanet, open source, and the new fsf
11:54 DaemonFC; If it was a good place, they wouldn't want to come here. Would they?
11:54 DaemonFC; But that's not our problem.
11:54 matey; its built on pure bullshit
11:54 matey; opportunism and double standards
11:55 DaemonFC; You don't make your country great by bringing in millions of people with no skills who want to live off of you.
11:55 DaemonFC; That's how you weaken it.
11:58 DaemonFC; Generally, like "gun violence" we get hated on by a bunch of foreigners who have never even been here.
11:59 DaemonFC; If they had to live and share a land border with not one or two or three but like at least 10 third world countries (which seem to be able to use Mexico as a conduit, and the Mexican government doesn't care), they'd probably be fed up with this too.
12:00 DaemonFC; Once they get here, they spread out, and when they spread out, you start getting a bunch of rapes, drugs, murders, shootings, hit and run felonies, etc.
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12:00 DaemonFC; Which some people are lucky enough to mostly avoid because they live on an island country where the ocean discourages mass waves of immigrants who are going there to sign up for welfare and go on a crime binge.
12:01 DaemonFC; You see how that worked out with the Tsarnaev brothers.
12:02 TR News; If one counts revisions and drafts, Techrights has just passed over 160001 (33.5k of which final)
12:02 DaemonFC; Russia even warned the United States multiple times, but the Obama administration and State of Massachusetts (Democrats) were letting them live here anyway. Paying for their college, while many Americans can't get help. Eating off of our food stamp program. While they told their classmates they hated America and wanted to kill us, and the police never did anything about it.
12:02 DaemonFC; And we all saw how THAT went.
12:03 DaemonFC; They were straight up living here for free, going to college for free, eating for free, free healthcare. Things Americans can't get. And they were plotting the Boston Marathon attack and not even being quiet about it.
12:04 DaemonFC; And the government did nothing to stop them. Want more free shit? Here you go!
12:05 DaemonFC; So no, I don't like that, and anyone who tells me I should like that can eat my shit.
12:10 matey; far from being pedantic, the goal of holding people accountable to such bullshit is the only way to get past the obstacle they create.
12:21 DaemonFC; I have to get used to the Buick again.
12:21 DaemonFC; I managed to make the brakes so touchy that they stop the car really fast. Faster than what I'm used to in the Impala.
12:22 DaemonFC; Oh well. At least if someone darts out in front of the car, I might be able to stop in time.
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12:22 DaemonFC; I live in one o "those" neighborhoods.
12:22 DaemonFC; It's cheap because it's the ghetto.
12:22 DaemonFC; And for some reason, there's a lot of bums that have never heard of sidewalks.
12:23 DaemonFC; And they'll go out walking at night.
12:26 TR News; Texan cops are far too beautiful to interfere in a gun battle
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12:29 matey; hi
12:29 matey; when is the digdeeper chat most active?
12:30 IPFS; Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi
12:30 matey; my clock says 11:29, i think thats utc. knowing the time in utc is probably most useful
12:31 matey; SomeH4x0r ^
12:31 matey; as youre probably just auto-joining
12:36 SomeH4x0r; no idea, will ask him
12:37 SomeH4x0r; but he is in Poland
12:38 DaemonFC; I think that would be GMT -1 wouldn't it?
12:38 DaemonFC; Illinois is -6.
12:39 matey; no, no need to ask
12:39 SomeH4x0r; matey: 14:38:55 - digdeeper: most people are europeans
12:39 matey; oh you already did
12:39 SomeH4x0r; 14:39:04 - digdeeper: so european morning hours
12:39 SomeH4x0r; 14:39:07 - digdeeper: I guess
12:39 matey; that makes sense
12:39 SomeH4x0r; I did, though I didn't mention your nickname
12:39 SomeH4x0r; 14:39:33 - digdeeper: I don't see a lot of posts during european "night"
12:39 SomeH4x0r; 14:39:47 - digdeeper: Usually when I come back there are only a few posts
12:40 DaemonFC; <SomeH4x0r> matey: 14:38:55 - digdeeper: most people are europeans
12:40 SomeH4x0r; 14:39:48 - digdeeper: during the night
12:40 DaemonFC; Broadly speaking.
12:40 DaemonFC; If you did run a DNA test on me, I've got a hell of a lot more Native American than Senator Pocahontas.
12:40 DaemonFC; I can tell you that much.
12:40 matey; im going in with low expectations, but there are at least a couple important things we must agree on
12:40 matey; must as in-- im sure of it
12:41 SomeH4x0r; 14:40:43 - digdeeper: the balance has shifted, there used to be more americans that have mostly ran away
12:41 SomeH4x0r; 14:40:58 - digdeeper: rainheaven, Elda, Tom and Baobab [the members from the past] all disappeared
12:41 matey; not too surpriing
12:42 SomeH4x0r; 14:42:22 - digdeeper: the european evening is also pretty active, that is when people have already come back from school or work
12:45 SomeH4x0r; 14:45:33 - digdeeper: also the imam comes at the european evening :D
12:46 SomeH4x0r; idk what it means
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12:51 matey; does it show me entering and leaving #stardust?
12:52 matey; i know, ill use the webchat to confirm
12:54 matey; maybe i wont
12:54 matey; is the webchat down or something?
12:54 matey; it keeps redirecting to the page that says "or use the webchat"
12:54 matey; as far as i can tell, this is new
12:54 matey; i should already be there, but i cant actually tell
12:54 matey; and i was going to use the webchat to confirm it
12:55 matey; it isnt just the webchat being weird, im having issues with both the standard channel as well as the webchat
12:56 matey; issues ive never had previously with either
12:56 matey; which is why i ask if something is down
12:56 matey; but i think im connected to one of them. maybe
12:57 matey; *** Got ident response
12:57 matey; but i cant tell if ive joined the channel
12:57 matey; thats unusual
12:57 matey; i told it to go to #stardust
12:58 SomeH4x0r; it does
12:58 matey; what does?
12:58 SomeH4x0r; I seen you joining #stardust
12:58 matey; hmm
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13:00 matey; im using whois to confirm that im connected
13:00 matey; but i get no response from the command
13:00 matey; again, thats unusual
13:00 matey; its like connecting to /dev/null
13:00 SomeH4x0r; webchat should now work
13:01 matey; yes
13:01 matey; what was the story with it
13:01 SomeH4x0r; for some reason Apache glitches and needs to be reloaded
13:01 TR News; [Meme] Unitary and Harmonised Injustice | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/kangaroo-courts-upc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/kangaroo-courts-upc/
13:01 TR Bot; [Meme] Unitary and Harmonised Injustice | Techrights
13:02 matey; yeah i believe it
13:02 SomeH4x0r; try connecting to the other server https://stardust.cx/?a=servers
13:02 TR Bot; StardustNetwork - Servers
13:03 matey; :) okay its my fault, i figured it out
13:03 matey; not the webchat part of course
13:03 matey; /me fixes it
13:06 TR News; PulseAudio 16.0 Released with Bluetooth Battery Level Reporting Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165376
13:06 TR Bot; PulseAudio 16.0 Released with Bluetooth Battery Level Reporting | Tux Machines
13:07 TR News; Another roundup of the past weeks lies (or responses to the lies) from Team UPC; it has become rather absurd and to make matters worse Antnio Campinos is posting similar lies (and advocacy of unlawful agenda) in the EPOs official Web site http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gallery-of-patent-law-firms-that-still-lie-still-promote-illegal-agenda-and-casually-game-the-media-to-mischievously-shape-perceptions/
13:07 TR Bot; Gallery of Patent Law Firms That Still Lie, Still Promote Illegal Agenda, and Casually Game the Media to Mischievously Shape Perceptions | Techrights
13:09 TR News; Time to review the phone that I helped make! gemini://idiomdrottning.org/mudita-pure
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13:13 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1530694058007478275
13:13 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Watch this for more of an understanding as to what happens in Russia when they hear appeasers who call on Ukraine to cede territory to Russia for the sake of an imaginary peace. Spoiler: they grow emboldened and want even morefrom both Ukraine & the West." | nitter
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13:19 XRevan86; Such might. Almost the whole force is focused on Sieverodonetsk right now, and has it been taken yet? That would be a no.
13:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, I can only imagine how badly the Russians are doing if the US is concerned that we're almost to the minimum acceptable level of stingers and javelin systems.
13:21 DaemonFC; Of course, who better to use them on?
13:22 DaemonFC; Those Stinger systems have to be replaced every 15 years or so anyway because of the non-serviceable battery if nothing else.
13:22 DaemonFC; So ideally you give Ukraine the stuff that is expiring first so they can go ahead and blow up a bunch of Russians with it now and we can refill on stuff that's good for a while.
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13:23 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/05/29/mediazona-employee-of-russian-defence-ministrys-press-service-killed-in-ukraine-news "Employee of Russian Defence Ministrys press service killed in Ukraine"
13:23 TR Bot; .
13:24 DaemonFC; It would have cost us about as much either way.
13:24 DaemonFC; Might as well blow up a bunch of Russian equipment so they can't use it on anyone.
13:24 DaemonFC; Plus we now know how well our defensive weapons work on their stuff. Pretty well, actually. Even the latest stuff.
13:26 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I wonder how resilient the latest addition to the heavy vehicle arsenal to the Javelin's and such is: T-62's.
13:27 XRevan86; Reports indicate they'll be given to the "DPR" forces.
13:28 XRevan86; Considering how they trained and used the mobilised soldiers, this might just be an improvement for them.
13:34 DaemonFC; It doesn't seem like Russia has any armored vehicles that hold up well against the Javelin.
13:34 DaemonFC; They sent on tanks that use their most advanced armor and the Javelin made short work of those.
13:35 DaemonFC; But it seems a lot of the Russian stuff is obsolete, and even when Ukraine is using some stuff that old, it had the design flaws fixed, and Russia's haven't had similar retrofits.
13:35 DaemonFC; Lots of corruption in the Russian military seems to have taken its toll.
13:36 DaemonFC; Their stuff wasn't even up to fighting in Ukraine even when the US has been hesitant to give Ukraine heavier weapons.
13:37 DaemonFC; The US is just now starting to approve medium range missile systems.
13:37 DaemonFC; I don't know what those will be exactly. Maybe the Patriot missile system?
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13:51 XRevan86; https://metacpan.org/release/RJBS/perl-5.36.0/view/pod/perldelta.pod#use-v5.36 I can't believe they actually enabled "signatures".
13:51 TR Bot; - what is new for perl v5.36.0 - metacpan.org
14:12 MinceR; 29 125030 < matey> the first world runs entirely on bullshit
14:12 MinceR; somehow the second world manages to run even more on bullshit
14:24 matey; mincer: the second world is run by the first world
14:24 matey; india is run by microsoft
14:24 matey; so youre not wrong, and thats how
14:25 MinceR; russia is not run by the USA
14:26 MinceR; and putler's brand of bullshit is something special
14:26 MinceR; OTOH the USA was run by terrorussia for 4 years, when the Moscovian Candidate was the president
14:28 XRevan86; matey: "The Second World" is a designation for the USSR and its bloc.
14:32 schestowitz_TR2; ukraine snubbbed putin
14:32 schestowitz_TR2; so he bloc'ced ukraine
14:32 schestowitz_TR2; "bloc user"
14:32 MinceR; putler's been dreaming of recapturing the entire easter bloc earlier than that
14:33 schestowitz_TR2; he should take easter island
14:33 MinceR; he should take polonium
14:33 schestowitz_TR2; estern polonium
14:33 schestowitz_TR2; *Eastern
14:34 MinceR; or novichok, instead of "novorossiya"
14:34 schestowitz_TR2; 2024 insurrectionist elected
14:34 schestowitz_TR2; hands over alaska to putin
14:34 schestowitz_TR2; putin takes hungary
14:34 MinceR; or just joins the russian federation
14:34 schestowitz_TR2; making alaska "great again"
14:34 MinceR; and on cue, the gypsy king joins hungary to it too
14:35 schestowitz_TR2; ttrump lost his marbles when he found out finland wants to secede from russia
14:35 schestowitz_TR2; the nerve of those finns !
14:36 schestowitz_TR2; car ride from alaska to hungary, no assport stops needed
14:36 schestowitz_TR2; just drive on ice
14:37 schestowitz; https://www.downtoearth.org.in/video/climate-change/why-are-polar-bears-migrating-to-russia-from-alaska--81756
14:37 TR Bot; Why are polar bears migrating to Russia from Alaska?
14:37 MinceR; just make sure you get a car made outside the new russian empire
14:37 MinceR; otherwise it will just break down a fraction of the way
14:38 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
14:38 TR Bot; Bering Strait - Wikipedia
14:40 schestowitz_TR2; "Since 2012, the Russian coast of the Bering Strait has been a closed military zone."
14:41 schestowitz_TR2; "It is 53 miles (85 km) wide, and at its deepest point is only 90 m (300 ft) in depth."
14:50 TR News; The Travesty of the Web as a Disinformation Machine of Patent Litigation Maximalists | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/team-upc-gets-media-played/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/team-upc-gets-media-played/
14:50 TR Bot; The Travesty of the Web as a Disinformation Machine of Patent Litigation Maximalists | Techrights
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15:30 IPFS; Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi
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15:33 TR Bot; [Meme] Illegally Forcing Unification in Europe | Techrights
15:40 TR News; Dont miss the jaw-dropping deals on electronic gadgets Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165377
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15:40 TR News; Arch Linuxs Menu-Based Installer Gets New Disk Preview, FIDO2 Support, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165378
15:40 TR Bot; Arch Linuxs Menu-Based Installer Gets New Disk Preview, FIDO2 Support, and More | Tux Machines
15:40 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165379
15:40 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
15:42 TR News; "They could be known, or go unnoticed for eternity. Sometimes we are communicating to the nearest and known object, which is creating a galaxy neighborhood." gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-29-My-map-of-the-galaxy.gmi
15:44 TR News; Distrobox 1.3 is out, but it got outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software, so it's not so trustworthy as a project. We need to help people get away from GitHub, maybe set up Git for them (if they don't know how)....
15:45 TR News; Pull xfs updates from Dave Chinner https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=babf0bb978e3c9fce6c4eba6b744c8754fd43d8e
15:45 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
15:46 XRevan86; More traumatising news for activelw
15:46 TR News; Two energy wasters https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-could-be-readying-a-super-cheap-gpu-to-tackle-nvidias-rumored-gtx-1630 we need to innovate in another direction...
15:46 TR Bot; could be readying a super-cheap GPU to tackle Nvidias rumored GTX 1630 | TechRadar
15:47 XRevan86; XFS gets new things, clearly it's not as good as ext2.
15:47 TR News; Phoronix is obsolete https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Hyper-V-Linux-5.19
15:47 TR Bot; Trims Hyper-V Boot Time By Minutes For Big Azure VMs With Linux 5.19 - Phoronix
15:48 matey; /me thinks xfs is a big pile of shit, has always hated it
15:48 matey; i hated trisquel for going with the same default that ubuntu had, which was to use xfs
15:48 *XRevan86 thinks XFS is the most stable FS for Linux that has at least some CoW.
15:49 XRevan86; I don't recall Ubuntu ever going for XFS by default.
15:49 matey; /me wonders if it wasnt xfs
15:49 matey; you cant resize it smaller, right?
15:49 bnchs; activelow really hates sgi
15:49 bnchs; and for no good reason
15:49 XRevan86; matey: That's the big problem of XFS, yes.
15:49 matey; okay thats why i hate it as a default
15:50 matey; it takes up your partition and you have to move it to make room for other distros
15:50 matey; its like uefi for your partition table
15:50 matey; but if it wasnt default, i wouldnt care
15:50 matey; because people would use it less, and those who did its their choice
15:50 matey; and yes, ubuntu made it default, no other reason trisquel would
15:51 matey; trisquel rarely innovates anything unless they have to remove something and replace it
15:51 XRevan86; matey: I see mentions of Trisquel using XFS for /home
15:51 matey; which is fine, xcept for ubuntu as a base
15:51 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/17121827
15:51 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/ouPouhi.jpg created on 2017-12-18 12:44:46.975159
15:51 matey; its freely licensed, so the fact that its some shit from ubuntu is irrelevant, as is good design
15:51 MinceR; i hate XFS because it zeroed out a lot of my files
15:51 XRevan86; I don't see mentions of Ubuntu ever doing that, and my seldom experience with Ubuntu never-ever had any mention of XFS.
15:52 MinceR; i think they fixed that in Linux since then, though
15:52 matey; maybe trisquel did it first, but i still doubt it
15:52 matey; they tend to follow what ubuntu does
15:52 matey; for better or worse
15:52 XRevan86; matey: Don't assume, make sure.
15:52 XRevan86; matey: Which release are we even talking about?
15:52 matey; well 99% sure is as sure as normal people need to be... 99% of the time
15:52 matey; well they would be very old
15:53 matey; i havent touched the shit in years
15:53 matey; im not talking about today
15:53 XRevan86; matey: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/why-does-trisquel-still-default-xfs-home
15:53 TR Bot; Why does Trisquel still default to XFS for home? | Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!
15:56 XRevan86; MinceR: They made it significantly more robust over time, and my experience has only been positive.
15:56 XRevan86; Meanwhile btrfs users still occasionally suffer.
15:56 MinceR; yeah, i don't use btrfs either
15:59 activelow; maybe XFS was once stable, currently i do not consider it anymore
15:59 activelow; and i do not hate SGI, i reject most implementations of OpenGL
15:59 XRevan86; In activelow's terminology stable means "a codebase that doesn't change much".
15:59 XRevan86; So maybe that's true.
15:59 activelow; yes, that's one criteria
16:00 MinceR; criterion
16:00 bnchs; matey: bysword is a troll
16:00 MinceR; criteria is plural
16:00 bnchs; ignore him
16:00 XRevan86; It's something to keep in mind, because most people by "stable" mean "the FS doesn't break easily", so there can be misunderstanding.
16:01 XRevan86; XFS used to break but it was stable, now it works well but it's unstable.
16:02 matey; bnchs: already ignored him
16:02 matey; hopefully he dies bysword
16:03 MinceR; who's bysword?
16:03 matey; bnchs is like santa claus
16:03 matey; this is just one of his helpers
16:03 XRevan86; Russia has a very close relationship to the word "stable". It's never been more stable, but also
16:03 MinceR; are there a lot of horses in russia?
16:04 XRevan86; Haven't kept tabs on them.
16:04 matey; there are whenever the army doesnt have to eat them
16:04 activelow; XRevan86: i put bcachefs on todo for review
16:04 matey; if putin is around long enough there will be more horses in russia than trees
16:04 MinceR; https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a7WEb4A_700b.jpg
16:04 matey; not because of an increase in horses
16:05 activelow; had to migrate my IRC stuff first, just shut down irssi some minutes ago
16:05 activelow; bcachefs is interesting: because it incorporates some replication/backup mechanism, it supports compression
16:06 activelow; disadvantage of bcachefs: linux-only to my knowledge
16:06 XRevan86; I thought the disadvantage would be that it's still in heavy development.
16:06 XRevan86; It is cool though.
16:07 activelow; among the many filesystems, ext2 (with the non-ext4 kernel module) seems the most portable one remaining
16:07 XRevan86; No, FAT32 is the most portable.
16:07 activelow; if you wanted to consider FAT32 stable, then go for it
16:07 XRevan86; It's practically rock solid.
16:07 MinceR; FAT32 is patent-encumbered, isn't it?
16:08 XRevan86; MinceR: I thought every single one of them expired.
16:08 XRevan86; as rock solid as mammoth poop
16:08 activelow; anyway, i'll not use any of those: xfs, jfs, zfs, btrfs
16:08 MinceR; maybe i'm thinking of exFAT
16:09 matey; i dont think the fat patent was ever enforceable other than giving microsoft a bit of money from each drive sold
16:09 MinceR; there was a shakedown exploiting a VFAT patent
16:09 MinceR; and iirc it resulted in MICROS~1 malware on many android devices
16:09 matey; which is all the more reason to destroy microsoft forever
16:09 matey; oh wait, github is free!
16:09 matey; dumb fucks
16:09 bnchs; "oh god it's on github"
16:10 XRevan86; MinceR: There was some thing about the filename stuff, I don't remember if that patent is still holding.
16:10 XRevan86; But it seems that feature was stripped out anyway.
16:10 XRevan86; "MICROS~1" <- Literally that.
16:11 matey; INNOVA~1
16:13 matey; "Mozilla's new addon blocking process literally starts with a section called Security Over Choice, which was not in the old one. So, they have now provided us with a direct, undeniable admission that your choice doesn't matter." systemd fanbois did the same thing
16:13 matey; "islinuxaboutchoice" NO.
16:14 matey; the only people ive seen pull that one are mozilla, moonchild, systemd and gnome
16:14 matey; these are people who are so against user freedom that they proudly claim it doesnt exist and isnt a goal
16:14 matey; and people still use their shit-- incredibly
16:16 matey; 52 brings a PulseAudio requirement to play sound on Linux - even though the ALSA code is there even now, so the decision was made entirely to remove user choice. <- systemdzilla
16:17 matey; im familiar with most of this so far
16:17 matey; but i havent found a more comprehensive rundown anywhere
16:18 matey; Yes, you saw it right! There is no way to disable auto-updates since version 63! <- software that updates itself without the option not to isnt free
16:18 matey; its just a backdoor
16:18 matey; i hope whoever implemented that dies
16:18 matey; painfully
16:18 matey; wrong chat, but equally applicaable here
16:22 XRevan86; https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.dev.platform/c/jRAqSTri66I
16:22 TR Bot; Rationalising Linux audio backend support
16:22 XRevan86; > The most problematic backend across all platforms is ALSA. It is also missing full duplex support. We are intending to add multichannel (5.1) support across all platforms and the ones that dont make the cut will be the ALSA backend
16:22 XRevan86; > Our ALSA backend has fallen behind in features, it is buggy and difficult to fix.
16:24 matey; /me doesnt use alsa
16:24 activelow; ALSA wasn't buggy, and it didn't miss any features
16:25 activelow; still using it, and used it with seamonkey for many years
16:25 XRevan86; "Our ALSA backend" == ALSA?
16:26 activelow; and, 5.1 is technical nonsense
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16:27 XRevan86; Is full duplex technical nonsense?
16:27 activelow; full duplex what? ethernet? no.
16:27 XRevan86; It is ironic when pure ALSA is the way to get sound latency.
16:27 activelow; ALSA buffers can be configured for minimal latency
16:28 matey; whats so fucking difficult about letting users enable alsa in about:config and saying "we dont support this. too buggy"
16:28 activelow; asoundrc configuration isn't trivial
16:29 matey; i hope thats a fucking bird because if its not im never going outside again
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16:29 matey; /me has somehow been transported to florida
16:30 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIJdcmbym-c
16:30 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=aIJdcmbym-c
16:30 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Fastest meowing cat ever came to me as soon as she heard my voice - Invidious
16:30 activelow; migrated everything onto linux framebuffer console, with yaft+dvtm bundled into my dmux desktop environment
16:31 MinceR; so, basically what mozilla is trying to tell us that ALSA can't do certain things, but poetteringaudio can do those things while using ALSA as its output API
16:31 MinceR; sounds very credible, mozilla.
16:31 activelow; side-effect of this, most of the bullshit problems in the realm of moz/systemd/gnu aren't any concern anymore
16:31 XRevan86; MinceR: API
16:31 MinceR; it's "modern" to tell lies all the time
16:31 activelow; instead, i can focus on hacking and programming, which is fun
16:34 matey; <MinceR> it's "modern" to tell lies all the time <- progressive, even!
16:34 matey; like lieplanet
16:35 matey; they also say they care about privacy, then send your data to google with invisible captcha and even use clear gifs, after disabling "turn off images" in dialog saying it broke websites
16:39 XRevan86; MinceR: From a programme's perspective PulseAudio and ALSA are very different.
16:40 XRevan86; Maybe they could have figured something out, but is the game worth the candle?
16:40 MinceR; poetteringaudio is magic
16:41 activelow; PulseAudio is an ALSA frontend, not sure what pulseaudio is good for
16:41 XRevan86; It's also going obsolete.
16:41 activelow; if a software mixer was required, then dmix existed with ALSA
16:41 activelow; then besides pulseaudio, jack-audio existed (jack1 was written in C, jack2 is written in c++)
16:42 MinceR; it's good for introducing skips into your audio output
16:42 XRevan86; And couldn't even resample.
16:42 MinceR; and wasting resources
16:42 MinceR; and dropping random files all over your filesystem
16:42 MinceR; presumably the skipping is where the "pulse" comes from
16:42 activelow; i won't consider any of those anymore: jack2, pulseaudio
16:42 XRevan86; MinceR: I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as skips, is in fact, underruns/overruns, or as I've recently taken to calling it, xruns.
16:42 MinceR; :>
16:43 activelow; if jack2 didn't require c++, and jack1 is deprecated
16:43 XRevan86; activelow: Are ye seriously considering JACK for everyday use?
16:44 activelow; XRevan86: jack is almost equivalent to pulseaudio, and jack was the better choice
16:44 activelow; and i don't use jack anymore, because jack2/c++
16:44 XRevan86; Where "almost equivalent" means "has a completely different use-case".
16:45 matey; :>
16:46 *activelow got a mild cold
16:47 activelow; maybe i got another few hours to review bcachefs today
16:47 XRevan86; activelow: "and jack was the better choice" <- I'm sure ye never actually used either.
16:47 XRevan86; Otherwise ye would've known how silly this sounds.
16:47 activelow; XRevan86: i tested alsa/jackd/fluidsynth with a MIDI keyboard while ago
16:48 activelow; and noticed, jackd is redundant for the use-case i tested
16:48 activelow; jackd is required to dynamically change configuration of an audio setup (re-plugging audio-channels)
16:48 XRevan86; activelow: Recommend me a patchbay for pure ALSA.
16:48 activelow; i didn't need this, and configured midi channel plugging directly with alsa
16:49 activelow; XRevan86: shell script
16:49 activelow; anyway, meanwhile i removed fluidsynth too, because it depends on GNU Glib, and i do not accept GNU Glib anymore
16:49 activelow; what remains is timidity++ to fiddle with MIDI
16:49 activelow; got no time currently
16:49 XRevan86; https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/rncbc/qpwgraph/-/raw/v0.3.1/src/images/qpwgraph_screenshot-1.png
16:49 XRevan86; So this looks like something doable in ALSA?
16:51 activelow; XRevan86: jackd does use ALSA, jackd (and pulseaudio) are a frontend for ALSA
16:52 activelow; although, i do not know what this screenshot shall demonstrate, to do with ALSA or jackd or pulseaudio
16:52 XRevan86; I noticed I forgot to write "pure ALSA" but decided no one would nitpick in the context.
16:53 activelow; the difference between ALSA and jackd frontend is this, dynamic-configurations are easier to accomplish with jackd to re-plug channels and their configuration
16:53 XRevan86; activelow: It's an input/output graph, where the ins and outs can be manually redirected.
16:53 activelow; with ALSA i can write an asoundr, and not alter this once configured
16:54 XRevan86; activelow: So pure ALSA can distinguish individual channels?
16:54 activelow; and then alsa got some utilities to plug varios channels
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16:55 TR News; Video: Antonio F Campinos in His Very Own Words | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/antonio-f-campinos-talks/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/antonio-f-campinos-talks/
16:55 TR Bot; Video: Antonio F Campinos in His Very Own Words | Techrights
16:55 activelow; XRevan86: besides, recently i removed LADSAP, it had some undesireable dependencies again, c++ or something else, don't remember
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16:56 activelow; otherwise, for testing i plugged into an LADSPA equalizer and resampler with my asoundrc, and it worked as it should
16:56 XRevan86; On the whole sink?
16:57 activelow; which source? which sink?
16:58 activelow; one stereo channel -> resampled -> ladspa -> out
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
16:59 activelow; anyway, asoundrc alone isn't suitable for complicated audio-channel management
17:00 matey; /me doesnt even know what pure alsa is
17:00 XRevan86; activelow: Imagine being able to apply audio filters only for one programme's sound.
17:00 XRevan86; matey: libasound
17:01 XRevan86; No sound daemons, just libasound kernel's ALSA
17:01 activelow; XRevan86: i can configured as many (virtual) pcm devices with a custom processing chain as i wanted
17:01 activelow; that's not the problem with asoundrc, problem is to re-plug and change channels and processing chains dynamically
17:02 activelow; which is, what jack2 can do, which i cannot with asoundrc alone
17:02 activelow; however, gladly, i do not need that
17:03 TR News; Slashdot CONTINUES to ATTACK Linux... in its LINUX section https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/05/28/2243237/new-linux-based-ransomware-targets-vmware-servers WTH? Slashdot is a FUD machine http://techrights.org/2022/05/28/slashdot-linux-section/
17:03 TR Bot; New Linux-Based Ransomware Targets VMware Servers - Slashdot
17:03 TR Bot; When 50% of Slashdots Linux Section is Microsoft Marketing, EEE, and FUD | Techrights
17:03 *activelow continues bcachefs review
17:03 activelow; ttyl
17:03 matey; libasound is still alsa though?
17:04 MinceR; iirc you can create virtual devices in pure ALSA, at least with dmix
17:04 XRevan86; matey: There are caveats, i.e. there are plug-ins that make libasound redirect output into whatever one desires.
17:05 matey; that sounds like a worthwhile feature, at least in theory
17:05 XRevan86; Well, yea, it's simple enough that this works.
17:06 XRevan86; matey: The caveat is that libasound doesn't mean "pure ALSA" on its own, it should also actually pipe sound into ALSA directly for that to be true.
17:07 XRevan86; Although in context of Firefox it doesn't matter for instance, there "pure ALSA" means "libasound".
17:07 XRevan86; It doesn't matter where the sound goes to, it's the API they have a problem with.
17:09 TR News; Microsoft Phoronix
17:10 activelow; this was a quick review, bcachefs won't be it... libudev, libzstd, liblz4 (cmake)... no.
17:11 matey; prominent Linux kernel developer Theodore Tso expressed his opinion that the dispute over systemds centralized design philosophy, more than technical concerns, indicates a dangerous general trend toward uniformizing the Linux ecosystem, alienating and marginalizing parts of the open-source community, and leaving little room for alternative projects
17:11 matey; and we have gkh instead, a novell person
17:11 MinceR; there are many problems with systemd's philosophy and politics
17:12 matey; and linus has no real say in the future
17:12 matey; and we move away from tso and towards gkh
17:12 matey; you know
17:12 XRevan86; "libzstd, liblz4 (cmake)" <- This guy wants FS compression, but doesn't want compression software.
17:12 matey; libzstd <- this is facebook or google
17:12 matey; i think brotli is google
17:12 matey; i think zstd is facebook
17:12 matey; either way its github and part of wget
17:13 matey; liblz4 <- this one might be okay
17:13 matey; xz is a huge disappointment
17:13 XRevan86; matey: Both are good quick compression algorithms.
17:13 matey; its nearly lossy
17:13 XRevan86; activelow expects gzip?
17:13 matey; Both are good quick compression algorithms <- the algorithm doesnt enter into it
17:13 matey; mirror it on something gnu controls, and stop relying on the good will of microsoft
17:13 XRevan86; matey: For on-the-fly compression it's *crucial*.
17:14 matey; it doesnt belong in wget
17:14 matey; algorithms can be mirrored
17:14 TR News; Lukashenko's business partners Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos want to take the law into their own hands, with criminals from Microsoft as business partners http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/kangaroo-courts-upc/
17:14 TR Bot; [Meme] Unitary and Harmonised Injustice | Techrights
17:14 activelow; XRevan86: liblz4 required CMake to build it which i do not have without c++
17:14 matey; on gnu-controlled infrastructure
17:14 TR News; With journalism waning if not dying perhaps we should expect lobbyists and PR agencies to fill the vacuum; in the domain of patents were seeing the worst elements stealing the narrative and pushing illegal proposals without any parliamentary debates http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/team-upc-gets-media-played/
17:14 TR Bot; The Travesty of the Web as a Disinformation Machine of Patent Litigation Maximalists | Techrights
17:14 matey; not microsoft juggernauts
17:14 activelow; i could hack bcachefs-tools build system to remove lz4/zstd/libudev...
17:14 matey; youd think gnu understood this
17:15 matey; but gnu is a farce
17:15 TR News; Do not be misled by words like unified or unitary (or united, unity, harmony etc.); what the EPO and Team UPC (law firms pushing the dead and legally invalid UPC proposal) strive to do isnt just illegal for at least a handful of different and solid reasons, it is also unconstitutional in many nations http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/upc-as-invasion-or-occupation/
17:15 TR Bot; [Meme] Illegally Forcing Unification in Europe | Techrights
17:15 activelow; yet there is other problems with bcachefs... it is implemented for linux-kernel only
17:15 TR News; A year-old video of the EPOs kakistocrat in chief shows potentially offensive language difficulties (the videos are unaltered; must be seen to be believed!) http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/antonio-f-campinos-talks/
17:15 TR Bot; Video: Antonio F Campinos in His Very Own Words | Techrights
17:15 activelow; and i am not sure i would want to place all my bets on linux-kernel
17:15 XRevan86; matey: I don't disagree, but so much stuff is hosted on GitHub I don't know if it's even possible to filter software on that criterion.
17:16 MinceR; 29 181347 < matey> mirror it on something gnu controls, and stop relying on the good will of microsoft
17:16 MinceR; better yet, mirror it on something _you_ control
17:16 XRevan86; "yet there is other problems with bcachefs... it is implemented for linux-kernel only" <- It's new and it's a feature-oriented FS.
17:17 matey; <MinceR> better yet, mirror it on something _you_ control <- sure, but i dont expect the gnu project to trust my mirror
17:17 XRevan86; The desire for FS compression and the desire for high portability are practically mutually exclusive.
17:17 matey; but i get your point. make my own binaries or something
17:18 XRevan86; Genuine portable FS' are not even a thing, the ports will always be that, ports.
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17:19 XRevan86; Even with FAT32, which everything supports, it will always be obvious that it's a DOS FS at heart.
17:19 matey; gnu should at a minimum, set a good example for free software
17:20 matey; if it cant do that, they might as well pull the plug
17:20 matey; if its going to be another microsoft product, better that it simply die with honour, than go out as a slave
17:20 matey; the fsf has chosen the latter already
17:20 matey; gnu will (does) follow
17:21 matey; microsoft gnu will not inspire better, not compared to what gnu was when it wasnt a joke
17:21 matey; and ibm (increasingly) controls gcc, though i dont think llvm is better
17:21 matey; i like the idea that you can actually compile gcc
17:22 matey; gcc should be mirrored, and red hat can go fuck itself
17:22 matey; there is a gcc mirror on sr.ht or something
17:22 activelow; with ext2 i fear filesystem corruption with sudden power-loss, if ext2 isn't mounted -o sync
17:23 activelow; and -o sync mount, is probably slow
17:23 activelow; another problem, was loopdev which i kept with a crypto-transform, and loopdev has some performance regression too
17:24 XRevan86; activelow: Can't have both a stable (i.e. dead codebase) FS and a stable (i.e. reliable) FS at the same time.
17:24 MinceR; my point was more a question of how much you can trust gnu
17:24 activelow; XRevan86: what's wrong with ext2?
17:25 MinceR; wasn't the ext2 driver retired already?
17:26 XRevan86; MinceR: It was, but activelow uses an old kernel anyway.
17:26 activelow; the original ext2 implementation is still there inside kernel, and if it doesn't contain bugs, then why change the sources?
17:26 activelow; kernel 5.10 isn't old
17:26 activelow; it is the current lTS
17:26 activelow; LTS
17:26 MinceR; it might contain bugs, and those bugs are unlikely to be found or fixed
17:27 activelow; ext2 was tested for 20years now
17:27 activelow; although i wouldn't want the ext4 driver, i'll keep it at ext2; not decided yet what i will do
17:28 activelow; because i do need/want some replication/backup/raid-1, and compression and/or encryption
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17:28 XRevan86; activelow: ext4 has better journaling than ext3, and simply has journaling compared to ext2.
17:29 matey; <MinceR> my point was more a question of how much you can trust gnu <- you cant trust a doormat who stands for nothing
17:29 matey; i tell people to be careful of pushovers
17:29 matey; because pushovers only bring worse people into yourlife
17:30 matey; those better be birds
17:30 matey; if you read a story about a guy being carried off by giant insects
17:30 matey; and you dont see me here
17:30 matey; youll know what happened
17:30 MinceR; :>
17:30 matey; wtf
17:30 XRevan86; activelow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features just read that but look at it not as ext4 features but ext2's lack of features.
17:30 TR Bot; ext4 - Wikipedia
17:31 activelow; ext4 requires the in-kernel crypto-api, which i want to wipe
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17:31 XRevan86; ext4 can be encrypted, yes.
17:31 activelow; and although ext4 introduced features, it didn't implement those i really wanted: compression, and hashing _all_ data and metadata
17:31 activelow; ext4 only supports crc32 for metadata iirc
17:32 XRevan86; How about the "don't break on the 32000 subdirectory" feature?
17:32 matey; thats a good one
17:32 activelow; wasn't aware of any limitation with subdirectories
17:32 activelow; not yet
17:33 matey; at the moment im not worried about reaching a 32000 subdirectory limit
17:33 matey; though it seems a pretty conservative limit for enough uses that i wouldnt set it there
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17:36 XRevan86; > An extent is a range of contiguous physical blocks, improving large-file performance and reducing fragmentation.
17:36 XRevan86; > Delayed allocation improves performance and reduces fragmentation
17:36 XRevan86; > ext4 uses checksums in the journal [and metadata] to improve reliability, since the journal is one of the most used files of the disk. This feature has a side benefit: it can safely avoid a disk I/O wait during journaling, improving performance slightly.
17:36 XRevan86; > ext4 enables write barriers by default. It ensures that file system metadata is correctly written and ordered on disk, even when write caches lose power.
17:37 XRevan86; Also ext2 can't be grown when mounted.
17:38 TR News; When You Piss Off Your Core Audience | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/phoronix-audience/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/phoronix-audience/
17:38 TR Bot; When You Piss Off Your Core Audience | Techrights
17:38 activelow; if i wanted checksums, i chose nilfs2; ext4 does checksum on metadata only
17:38 activelow; with nilfs2 i encountered some other minor issues
17:39 activelow; the benefit of ext2: it is implemented for almost all operating systems including *bsd, windows etc... just in case
17:39 activelow; i won't hit any filesystem size limit with ext2
17:40 activelow; question will be, how fast ext2 is when mounted -o sync
17:40 activelow; and i had wanted the e2compr patch, which doesn't apply anymore, thanks to changes of in-kernel filesystem APIs
17:41 activelow; re-implementing this, and TESTING, that's not the easiest task
17:44 activelow; linux MD-RAID too is, linux specific
17:45 activelow; the loopdev crypto-transformation of mine, is relatively easy to implement
17:45 activelow; including a user-space crypto-pipe, in case of emergency, and if linux kernel was dropped
17:46 TR News; Fake security put in the kernel https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/security/secrets/coco.rst?id=bf2431021c8cfe52c866d7bf640ced03a35ebe91
17:46 TR Bot; coco.rst secrets security Documentation - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
17:47 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22052740
17:47 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/lgo7x672cn191.png created on 2022-05-27 14:55:06.541745
17:47 activelow; with ext2 i am hitting another problem: missing RENAME_WHITEOUT feature, meaning i cannot use this with overlayfs
17:48 activelow; and the root.squashfs+overlayfs with ext4 was both practical and had some security benefits
17:49 activelow; if i drop linux md-raid, i cannot use md-raid for online backup/recovery anymore, and would need to dd disk images
17:50 activelow; i must reduce the amount of data in any case, currently gentoo distfiles is flooding 1TB on MD-RAID
17:51 TR News; 4MLinux 39.1 released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165380
17:51 TR Bot; 4MLinux 39.1 released. | Tux Machines
17:51 activelow; that's too much, and expensive, because an MD-RAID backup/archive/recovery strategy requiresat least three disks of the size of 1TB
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18:09 TR News; "Valve has released a few days ago a new update for the Steam Deck, SteamOS 3.2. One of the main improvements is around Refresh Rates." https://boilingsteam.com/steamos-3-2-introduces-flexible-refresh-rates-for-the-steam-deck/
18:09 TR Bot; SteamOS 3.2 Introduces Flexible Refresh Rates for the Steam Deck - Boiling Steam
18:10 activelow; bcachefs-tools contain rust... gone.
18:12 TR News; Phoronix gets "gifts" to review https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ChromeOS-EC-Framework-Laptop
18:12 TR Bot; Laptop Gets ChromeOS EC Driver Support In Linux 5.19 - Phoronix
18:14 TR News; With a total of 5 comments today (a lot less than it used to be), as shown above, maybe its time to better understand that sponsored coverage and Microsoft news isnt what people typically came to the site for http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/phoronix-audience/
18:18 matey; Also ext2 can't be grown when mounted. <- ext3 can?
18:19 XRevan86; matey: yes
18:20 activelow; don't know yet, if the old ext2 kernel-driver got journaling
18:20 activelow; re-thinking e2compr, that's not desireable too, because not portable
18:21 XRevan86; ext2 not having journaling also puts me in doubt over whether the old ext2 kernel-driver has journaling.
18:22 matey; cool
18:22 matey; btw if you bite into a chickpea and it breaks in half
18:23 matey; its probably a cardamom pod
18:23 matey; as i recntly discovered
18:23 MinceR; :>
18:24 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2205276
18:24 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/z0f83d0ogn191.jpg created on 2022-05-27 02:22:51.936442
18:25 activelow; i do not need journaling if, if a sudden power-loss doesn't push the filesystem into an inconsistent state
18:26 activelow; currently on the list remaining are: ext2/(3) and nilfs2
18:27 matey; also if you bite into a chickpea and its 3 inches long, red and full of seeds
18:27 matey; hold onto your anus because it could get away from you
18:27 activelow; the nilfs2-utilities contain a bug somewhere, when used as aarch32 binaries on top of an aarch64 kernel, which is what i couldn't repair yet with nilfs2
18:28 activelow; and nilfs2 has one disadvantage over ext2: there is only some rudimentary read-only implementation with NetBSD for it
18:28 activelow; instead, ext2 is implemented with all *bsd, and windows too
18:29 MinceR; if you bite into a chickpea and it's torus-shaped, made of metal, is connected to a pin, and you just pulled the pin out of a grenade, it's not a chickpea
18:29 matey; close enough
18:30 IPFS; Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi
18:30 matey; theres a guy on youtube who puts grenades in safes and pulls the pin out with a long string
18:30 matey; i guess he got bored with shooting bottles and tin cans
18:35 matey; /me points points points
18:39 MinceR; :)
18:42 XRevan86; Meanwhile British tabloids are spreading rumours of Putin's death.
18:43 XRevan86; For some strange reason no respectable agency picked that story up.
18:44 matey; also he was born with bat ears
18:44 matey; you can still see where they modified them
18:44 matey; he never smiles because his canines are unusually long
18:45 XRevan86; matey: The Ukrainian bioengineers designed COVID-19 to assassinate Putin, that's why it spreads in bats & humans.
18:45 XRevan86; (disclaimer: it's a joke)
18:46 matey; (see if that stops me from running with it)
18:46 XRevan86; (:D)
18:48 XRevan86; matey: Also he does smile.
18:49 XRevan86; his humour is also quite something.
18:52 XRevan86; https://youtu.be/aimnhejkr2s this will do
18:52 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=aimnhejkr2s
18:52 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Vladimir Putin jokes about a stroke survivor being drunk - Daily Mail - Invidious
18:52 matey; <XRevan86> matey: Also he does smile. <- isnt it more of an evil grin though?
18:56 XRevan86; matey: I can't tell.
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18:58 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/251681
18:58 TR Bot; Single mom denounced by neighbor, fined for anti-war drawings
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/29/7349227/ While Russia is trying to take Sieverodonetsk, Ukraine is conducting a counter-offensive in the Kherson region.
18:59 TR Bot; Near Kherson, Ukrainian defenders chase and burn Russian vehicles using artillery | Ukrayinska Pravda
19:00 XRevan86; The way I see it, that had to have happened simply because Russia is pushing its everything onto Sieverodonetsk, so the rest should be thinned.
19:01 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22052660
19:01 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/exwahc426q191.jpg created on 2022-05-26 20:36:21.915420
19:01 XRevan86; But that's layman judgement, I don't understand military stuff.
19:02 XRevan86; I know MinceR is already writing "so don't the Russian army commanders" :)
19:02 MinceR; dunno about that, maybe the stupid decisions come from further above
19:03 XRevan86; MinceR: They just had to slap the CNN logo onto that.
19:04 XRevan86; Fake News!
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19:07 TR News; 12 Best Free and Open Source Linux PDF Viewers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165381
19:07 TR Bot; 12 Best Free and Open Source Linux PDF Viewers | Tux Machines
19:08 TR News; Khadas VIM4 SBC review - Part 3: Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165382
19:08 TR Bot; Khadas VIM4 SBC review - Part 3: Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines
19:08 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165383
19:08 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:12 AdmFubar; https://www.crn.nz/news/chorus-shows-off-25-gigabit-per-second-retail-fibre-broadband-580604
19:12 TR Bot; Chorus shows off 25 gigabit per second retail fibre broadband - Service Providers - CRN NZ
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19:18 TR News; inttf-kernel - Clear Linux kernel for Fedora 36 users - If Not True Then False https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/inttf-kernel/ Source: if-not-true-then-false
19:18 TR Bot; inttf-kernel Clear Linux kernel for Fedora 36 users If Not True Then False
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19:22 DaemonFC; Well, Ext2 is very old and basically on life support at this point.
19:23 DaemonFC; There aren't going to be new features, and it's going to hit the 32-bit signed time problem here soon.
19:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165384
19:26 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:26 TR News; Kernel: Linux Plumbers Conference 2022, Clear Linux Patches, RCU, and oneAPI Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165385
19:26 TR Bot; Kernel: Linux Plumbers Conference 2022, Clear Linux Patches, RCU, and oneAPI | Tux Machines
19:27 DaemonFC; BtrFS is obviously where Linux is heading as far as a "de facto" file system default.
19:28 DaemonFC; Unlike Canonical's other blunders, ZFS won't be easy for their customers to migrate away from..
19:28 activelow; DaemonFC: didn't kernel migrate to 64bit timestamps?
19:28 DaemonFC; Yes, but I don't believe that Ext2 is included in that.
19:29 DaemonFC; In Ext4, it requires that the file system be of the 64-bit variant, which I believe can only be done at creation time, and I think the 32-bit variant of Ext4 was dropped from e2fsprogs to make dropping it from the kernel too at some point easier to do.
19:30 activelow; if ext4 was available with *BSD and windows, i would re-consider it
19:31 activelow; and i remain sceptical, about feature creep with ext4, while important features are absent: compression, hashsums for metadata _and_ data
19:31 TR News; "On Saturday, Dublin airport officials were in the news promising to resolve the problems at the airport. Yet on Sunday things only got worse, dramatically, airport security and police overwhelmed by a crowd." https://danielpocock.com/surviving-crowd-crush-dublin-airport/
19:31 TR Bot; Surviving a crowd crush at Dublin airport
19:31 activelow; nilfs2 is the only filesystem i would trust, with regards to crc32 hashsums for data and metada
19:32 activelow; metadata
19:32 activelow; that's why, i implemented an fsck/hashsum-verification tool for it, nilfs2
19:32 TR News; Which Linux Mint Desktop Should I Use? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165386
19:32 TR Bot; Which Linux Mint Desktop Should I Use? | Tux Machines
19:32 TR News; Building a retro handheld console with Fedora and a RPi zero Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165387
19:32 TR Bot; Building a retro handheld console with Fedora and a RPi zero | Tux Machines
19:35 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dis6PJdRQQg
19:35 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=dis6PJdRQQg
19:35 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | a hostile work environment - Invidious
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19:44 activelow; DaemonFC: you are right ... ext2.h: __le32 i_atime; /* Access time */
19:45 activelow; the original ext2 implementation uses 32bit timestamps, year 2038 problem
19:46 activelow; maybe, it isn't too difficult, to replace __le32 with __le64
19:47 activelow; in kernel it is a no-brainer, almost, and then check the userspace utilities (the busybox ones, and coreutils for mount.ext2 etc)
19:47 XRevan86; https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7765629.html
19:47 TR Bot; Boris Johnson reveals plan to bring back pounds and ounces | Daily Mail Online
19:47 MinceR; changing the on-disk format can lead to painful results though
19:47 MinceR; it's probably a good idea to check how it was done in ext3/4
19:48 DaemonFC; I got a Wave Music System IV. Refurbished.
19:48 activelow; or, i'll switch to nilfs2
19:49 AdmFubar; ghost in the machine https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/attackers-can-use-electromagnetic-signals-to-control-touchscreens-remotely.445447/
19:49 TR Bot; Attackers Can Use Electromagnetic Signals to Control Touchscreens Remotely | Wilders Security Forums
19:49 activelow; nilfs2 support is complete with linux, on NetBSD a read-only implementation exists for the sake of it
19:49 DaemonFC; Well, it's a manufacturer refurb. You have to be careful that it's from the manufacturer, and not like, you know, "Best Buy be like 'refurbished'" and then you get the carpet shampooer home and there's half of someone's wet dog in it waiting for you.
19:49 DaemonFC; :)
19:49 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
19:49 activelow; and it is only the aarch64-kernel/aarch32-userspace bug which i would need to repair
19:50 XRevan86; Isn't it fun when a country is powerful enough that it can afford to do self-harm like continue to push their own obsolete measurement systems indefinitely?
19:51 DaemonFC; I bought an antenna too from Bose. The unit will use the power cord by default for FM, but I live in an apartment that gets notoriously bad reception, and people say the $10 FM antenna lets them get FM stations for about 100 miles.
19:51 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Isn't it fun when a country is powerful enough that it can afford to do self-harm like continue to push their own obsolete measurement systems indefinitely?
19:51 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Well, Putler sent in all the old stuff first.
19:51 DaemonFC; I guess he didn't have much confidence in the mission, or things in your military really are that bad.
19:52 XRevan86; He should prepare a symmetrical response and restore sazhe.
19:52 activelow; ok, then nilfs2 it is, hopefully the bugfixing isn't too difficult, at least it is a userspace utility problem, easier to test/debug
19:53 DaemonFC; Why not XiaFS?
19:53 DaemonFC; ;)
19:53 TR News; SteamOS 3.2 Introduces Flexible Refresh Rates for the Steam Deck http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165342#comment-33823
19:53 TR Bot; Games: Proton Experimental, SteamOS 3.2, and More | Tux Machines
19:53 TR News; Arch Linux text-based Installer gets a new update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165388
19:53 TR Bot; Arch Linux text-based Installer gets a new update | Tux Machines
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19:58 TR News; Links 29/05/2022: 4MLinux 39.1, Invalidity of Some US Software Patents | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/4mlinux-39-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/4mlinux-39-1/
19:58 TR Bot; Links 29/05/2022: 4MLinux 39.1, Invalidity of Some US Software Patents | Techrights
20:03 TR News; "more broadly, lefebvre is trying to develop a 'theory of needs' (299) that illuminates the relationship between nature and culture in everyday life." gemini://aidn.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-29.gmi
20:04 TR News; "In the referenced entry, OP (me) makes a curious statement about the Raspberry Pi power usage: "Uses too much power"..." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-05-29.pi.power.gmi
20:07 TR News; Historical or Cultural Bindings gemini://thurk.org/blog/557.gmi
20:13 TR News; OpenMandriva: "For Rock and Rolling users OpenMandriva Community has made ISOs using the LXQt desktop." https://www.openmandriva.org/en/breve/new-lxqt-isos-for-rock-rolling
20:13 TR Bot; New LXQt ISOs for Rock & Rolling - OpenMandriva
20:15 TR News; Top 15 Best Google Drive Clients for Linux System in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165389
20:15 TR Bot; Top 15 Best Google Drive Clients for Linux System in 2022 | Tux Machines
20:15 TR News; Lodestone is an open-source free document search engine https://medevel.com/lodestone-dms/
20:15 TR Bot; Lodestone is an open-source free document search engine
20:17 TR News; Updated: today's example of Slashdot pushing anti-Linux... in the LINUX section http://techrights.org/2022/05/28/slashdot-linux-section/
20:17 TR Bot; When 50% of Slashdots Linux Section is Microsoft Marketing, EEE, and FUD (Updated) | Techrights
20:18 TR News; Slashdot is run by people who don't care about GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2020/09/26/a-slashdot-run-linux-journal/
20:18 TR Bot; Why Techrights is Totally Unexcited About the New Owner of Linux Journal | Techrights
20:18 TR News; Calamares Handoff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165390
20:18 TR Bot; Calamares Handoff | Tux Machines
20:19 TR News; [GIT PULL] chrome-platform changes for v5.19 - Tzung-Bi Shih https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yo7YztZklByTINZp@google.com/ Source: google
20:19 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] chrome-platform changes for v5.19 - Tzung-Bi Shih
20:27 TR News; "The reality at the EPO is that people behind, for instance, trade union SUEPO operate in anonymity out of fear they will be fired or will face other severe sanctions, as happened with various SUEPO leaders in the Battistelli era." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/23/dedicated-tribunal-could-help-settle-labour-disputes-at-the-european-patent-office/
20:27 TR Bot; 'Dedicated tribunal could help settle labour disputes at the European Patent Office' - Kluwer Patent Blog
20:29 TR News; "I AM NOT A CROOK!!" https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2015/20150318.html
20:29 TR Bot; EPO - Statement from the management: No, the EPO is not violating fundamental human rights
20:30 TR News; They clearly don't understand that EPO is a rubber-stamping operation now https://www.prnewswire.com/il/news-releases/oramed-granted-nash-patent-in-europe-301517778.html
20:30 TR Bot; Oramed Granted NASH Patent in Europe
20:35 TR News; Software Freedom Conservancy Receives Court Ruling Affirming GPL as Both Copyright License and Contractual Agreement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164920#comment-33824
20:36 TR Bot; Software Freedom Conservancy right-to-repair lawsuit against California TV manufacturer Vizio, Inc. remanded to California State Court | Tux Machines
20:42 DaemonFC; MinceR, After activelow gets done with his xiafs-based suckless system, he can relax and know it's good.
20:42 DaemonFC; Speaking of relaxing, I forgot how well that Buick rides.
20:42 DaemonFC; Even with a rebuilt front end suspension, the Impala doesn't ride that well.
20:43 DaemonFC; About the only part of the Impala's front end suspension that's partially original, are the CV half-shafts.
20:44 DaemonFC; Those are very expensive. The boots rotted away and leaked the grease out, but the metal parts were still in decent shape, so I had the shop get one of those seals and boots kits and re-grease the things and put new rubber stuff on them.
20:46 TR News; "Y'know, don't take this the wrong way, but I kinda get the impression you're more than a little, um, shall we say, "obsessed" with Firefox? I don't think I've ever seen anybody worry so much about availability, future plans - does it even have a "future"? - etc., etc." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/772597/is-this-a-legit-mozilla-ppa/
20:46 TR Bot; Is this a legit Mozilla PPA? - Linux & Unix
20:50 TR News; WordPress Turns 19 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165391
20:50 TR Bot; WordPress Turns 19 | Tux Machines
20:50 activelow; nilfs2 it will be, the nilfs_cleanerd still crashes when executed as aarch32-binary on top of an aarch64 kernel
20:51 activelow; i can use nilfs2 already, including the crc32 verification (fsck) utility; and yes, it's very pleasent, when all segment crc32 match for both data and metadata
20:51 DaemonFC; Microsoft has a Windows on ARM developer kit pretty cheap. If it runs GNU/Linux, it may be worth buying.
20:52 DaemonFC; Paul Thurrott got one and said it was a pretty dismal experience with Windows 10. It's not actually powerful enough to run Windows 10 very well, and even though the Windows PC Health program says you can run Windows 11, there's not officially supported way of installing or upgrading to that.
20:52 TR News; Better install a virtual machine of GNU/Linux and do it properly. Or properly boot into GNU/Linux. Windows is as relic and it has back doors. https://petri.com/how-to-use-git-bash-on-windows/
20:52 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://petri.com/how-to-use-git-bash-on-windows/ )
20:52 DaemonFC; So I see Microsoft's off to the races again with another halfassed attempt to get anyone to pay attention to Windows on ARM.
20:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
20:53 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: too late
20:53 DaemonFC; It's barely powerful enough to run the included ARM software, so I suppose you can forget about x86 emulation.
20:53 schestowitz_TR2; it's also too far
20:53 schestowitz_TR2; *fat
20:53 schestowitz_TR2; mission impossoble
20:53 schestowitz_TR2; just getting windows tpoo boot ona pi or olpc means nothing
20:54 schestowitz_TR2; if you wait a very long time
20:54 schestowitz_TR2; and then everything si far too slow
20:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, As far as too fat, I mean obviously. You'd think that, starting over, with no legacy baggage, they could cut away some of the things that only made sense in the context of running x86 Windows software.
20:54 DaemonFC; And that might reduce the weight.
20:54 schestowitz_TR2; you can stuff a horse into a van
20:55 schestowitz_TR2; but you would not then take the live horse into the intersttae in avan
20:55 DaemonFC; I mean, the sole purpose of the WinSXS folder is so that old programs will find the libraries they need to run.
20:55 DaemonFC; But there aren't any old programs from 20, 10, 5, or even 1 year ago on ARM for Windows.
20:55 DaemonFC; There's basically what comes with the developer kit and nothing else at the moment.
20:56 TR News; Be GENTOO with our things https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/whats-on/things-to-do/edinburgh-zoo-urges-visitors-to-stop-tampering-with-signs-after-disrespectful-behaviour-from-guests-3709617 maybe the animals in the zoo... are the humans
20:56 TR Bot; Edinburgh Zoo urges visitors to stop 'tampering with signs' after disrespectful behaviour from guests | Edinburgh News
20:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, They found a 1,300 pound bison that got loose and had been living in the Lake County Forest Preserve for over a year and a half, the other day.
20:56 DaemonFC; People occasionally spotted it, but it got away before anyone could come to capture it. They finally lured it into a live trap using some food as bait.
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: sorry to bother you
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; you said you would write about wsl
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; that stupid beleeping computer thing
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; I didn't look into it
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; but stumbled upon it
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; we could use as rebuttal
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; as it keeps happening
20:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, been meaning to. I ate something that disagreed with me this morning and ended up riding it out in bed.
20:57 schestowitz_TR2; the media blaming "linux" for WSL being shit
20:58 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: too many details
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 DaemonFC; When you make a Linux guest in Windows, you don't make the GNU/Linux system stronger, you just make it inherit all of the performance and security disasters that were already in Windows. So, it's like. What else did anyone expect this to be except for some underperforming security nightmare that gives people new ways to write Windows malware?
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21:00 TR News; Laugh all you want, but corporations do not respect basic free speech, they just throw that term around https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2022/05/27/large-us-companies-rated-on-respect-for-free-speech-religious-freedom/
21:00 TR Bot; Large US companies rated on respect for free speech, religious freedom Catholic World Report
21:00 DaemonFC; It's not even fully compatible with the "Linux" system you choose for it. And then Microsoft keeps bolting in hooks that extend "Linux" in a whole bunch of ways that only work on Windows.
21:00 DaemonFC; So it's the Microsoft Java scandal all over again, as well.
21:00 DaemonFC; Only with nobody willing to sue them this time.
21:01 TR News; BS. They don't need a scam. https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/05/27/cryptos-one-unassailable-use-case-helping-human-rights-activists/
21:01 TR Bot; Crypto's One Unassailable Use Case: Helping Human Rights Activists
21:01 DaemonFC; Microsoft fundamentally misunderstands the "problem". They know their customers want to run "Linux" workloads, so they figured they could tack something on to Windows and say "use that".
21:01 DaemonFC; And aside from some corrupt "influencers" they pay to promote it, nobody I know of is using it for anything.
21:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Well, they make these omelet in a cup things at the store now. And they're ridiculously overpriced. But they're on iBotta and so that makes them a cheap breakfast. So I stocked up on them going what the hell.
21:03 DaemonFC; That was the last thing I ate before I became sick to my stomach. So I don't know it was that, but.....
21:03 TR News; How to associate fakecoin with people who smoke pot https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/how-the-federal-government-showed-me-the-importance-of-bitcoin
21:04 schestowitz; https://www.osnews.com/story/134925/microsoft-announces-a-brand-new-arm-powered-desktop-pc-and-arm-native-dev-tools/
21:04 schestowitz; LOL!
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21:06 TR News; They always find some 'compelling' excuses for more surveillance https://mettisglobal.news/sbp-expands-scope-of-data-collection-to-curtail-digital-banking-frauds/
21:07 TR Bot; SBP expands scope of data collection to curtail digital banking frauds - Mettis Global News
21:08 TR News; To telegram, YOU are the product. Why would you PAY for it? https://www.gsmarena.com/telegram_to_soon_launch_its_premium_plan-news-54468.php (No, Telegram is NOT privacy)
21:08 TR Bot; to soon launch its premium plan - GSMArena.com news
21:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Capitalism is weird. They make products too expensive and then they slip people who won't pay it a deal.
21:09 TR News; What Made GoLang So Popular? The Languages Creators Look Back - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/what-made-golang-so-popular-the-languages-creators-look-back/ Source: thenewstack
21:09 TR Bot; What Made GoLang So Popular? The Languages Creators Look Back The New Stack
21:09 TR News; Welcome to Windows. Goodbye. What Made GoLang So Popular? The Languages Creators Look Back - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/what-made-golang-so-popular-the-languages-creators-look-back/ Source: thenewstack
21:10 TR News; Welcome to Windows. Goodbye. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/772562/windows-crashes-no-bsod/
21:10 TR Bot; Windows crashes no BSOD - Windows Crashes and Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Help and Support
21:11 TR News; He makes NATO look bad. And some wanted him in the EU, too? https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/05/27/playing-games-in-nato-turkey-eyes-its-role-in-a-new-world-order/
21:11 TR Bot; Playing games in NATO, Turkey eyes its role in a new world order - Modern Diplomacy
21:12 psydroid2; that makes capitalism nothing more than a form of cheap manipulation
21:12 schestowitz; https://www.osnews.com/story/134925/microsoft-announces-a-brand-new-arm-powered-desktop-pc-and-arm-native-dev-tools/
21:12 TR Bot; announces a brand-new ARM-powered desktop PC and ARM-native dev tools OSnews
21:12 schestowitz; "I actually wouldnt mind one of these as an actual product for regular end users. Windows on ARM needs a big push, and while Im not sure these announcements constitute such a big push, its at least something."
21:12 schestowitz; Why would he LIKE it?
21:12 psydroid2; cheap form of manipulation*
21:12 schestowitz; what can that do that GNU/Linux cannot, and more efficiently? and no back doors...
21:13 schestowitz; DaemonFC: right, now it's screaming in prain
21:13 schestowitz; to make itself seem legitimate
21:13 psydroid2; he benefits from it somehow?
21:14 schestowitz; from a less tech channel (many typos)
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> 1990s: job demand
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> 2000: the market is BACK
21:14 psydroid2; decommoditise the commodities
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> 2010: we're back
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> after pandemic: market back!
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> after unkraine: MACK
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> 'after'
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> they always cheers "the system"
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> there are always many jobs, they say
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> while they blame "great resiugnation"
21:14 schestowitz; [19:11] <schestowitz-TR> the people who OWN the paper never had to apply for a job!
21:14 schestowitz; [19:13] <schestowitz-TR> blame the unem,ployed or uneresployed for their misfortunes
21:14 schestowitz; [19:13] <schestowitz-TR> and blaming the poor for their poverty
21:14 schestowitz; [19:13] <schestowitz-TR> that's how the system helpd the "weak"
21:14 schestowitz; [19:13] <schestowitz-TR> shame
21:14 schestowitz; [19:13] <schestowitz-TR> *underemployed
21:15 psydroid2; (or decommodify)
21:15 schestowitz; some were subsidised
21:15 schestowitz; by taxpayers
21:15 schestowitz; now they shuffle the capitsl between the pots
21:15 schestowitz; to keep it afloat
21:16 psydroid2; actually free markets are undesirable?
21:17 schestowitz; no such thing
21:17 schestowitz; they always had regulation
21:17 schestowitz; even in the US
21:17 schestowitz; but not in your favour
21:17 schestowitz; because of regulatory capture
21:17 schestowitz; same for politicians
21:17 psydroid2; perfect competition should be the ideal
21:17 schestowitz; oligarchs capture them
21:17 schestowitz; then they "market" these to voters
21:18 schestowitz; psydroid2: not always
21:18 schestowitz; for utilities like water you need to share pipes
21:18 schestowitz; and other facilities
21:18 schestowitz; or openreach for wiring
21:18 schestowitz; the competition is then mostly "optics"
21:18 psydroid2; those should probably never be privatised
21:18 schestowitz; they compete over price, support service..
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21:19 psydroid2; public transport is another thing that hasn't improved with competition
21:19 psydroid2; it only became worse and more expensive
21:19 schestowitz; in the UK any household with broadband or landline pays annual tax for the infra
21:19 psydroid2; particularly in theUK
21:19 schestowitz; they call it line renta
21:19 psydroid2; the UK*
21:19 schestowitz; line rental is about 220 a year at the moment
21:20 schestowitz; if you cannot afford to pay for the year upfront, it is more
21:20 schestowitz; IOW, the POOR pay MORE for it
21:20 schestowitz; either in debt interest of installments
21:20 schestowitz; psydroid2: I use my feet and bike
21:20 schestowitz; public transport is not pleasant
21:21 schestowitz; the "peasants" can become less "pleasant" when they're treated so badfly
21:21 schestowitz; we need to revolutionise work
21:21 schestowitz; to lower use of vehicles
21:21 schestowitz; the many jobs in the UK are considered "intellectual" labour
21:22 schestowitz; not much farming going on, and there they import "workfroce"
21:22 schestowitz; and many of the physical jobs are servicing centralised working space
21:22 schestowitz; if it's "knowledge economy", then a change was missed in COVID-19
21:23 schestowitz; and not likely we'll change modes of working
21:23 schestowitz; or distribution of resources
21:23 schestowitz; the old businesses want their old models "back"
21:24 TR News; Scam vs scheme https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/bitcoin-vs.-bitcoin-cash:-whats-the-difference-and-which-is-better
↺ https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/bitcoin-vs.-bitcoin-cash:-whats-the-difference-and-which-is-better
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21:25 psydroid2; https://www.acm.nl/en/publications/publication/9189/OPTA-on-the-cable-sector-Put-an-end-to-cross-subsidies
21:25 TR News; Weekend lack of focus gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/weekend-out-of-focus
21:26 schestowitz_TR2; people thing subsidies make things "cheaper"
21:26 schestowitz_TR2; easily forgetting where the money comes from
21:26 schestowitz_TR2; (them)
21:26 schestowitz_TR2; they just hide it
21:27 schestowitz_TR2; like right n ow when the gov. gives energy "help"
21:27 schestowitz_TR2; 150 pounds in Manchester
21:27 schestowitz_TR2; and 400 this coming auitumn
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21:27 schestowitz_TR2; where does this money come from? us.
21:27 schestowitz_TR2; where does it go? us.
21:27 schestowitz_TR2; nice stunt you got there, borisnaro
21:27 schestowitz_TR2; maybe they should, instead, tax corporations like bp a lot more
21:28 schestowitz_TR2; or force bp et al to charge less for enrgy
21:28 psydroid2; I think we are going to see the end of power-hungry services and devices including computers
21:28 schestowitz_TR2; they have all-time highs in reports of income/revenue
21:28 schestowitz_TR2; so what do you do?
21:28 schestowitz_TR2; take from taxpayers, give back to taxpayers
21:28 schestowitz_TR2; BP: LMAO
21:28 psydroid2; normal people can't afford it anymore
21:29 schestowitz_TR2; we have not used the heating since before the pandemic
21:29 schestowitz_TR2; at all
21:29 schestowitz_TR2; our bills are 2.5 cheaper thaan my friend who lives with his partner
21:29 psydroid2; I've read from PC gaming people asking for government intervention when it comes to power consumption by computers, since it's going to get out of hand without intervention
21:30 IPFS; Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi
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21:30 psydroid2; I only used minimal heating to prevent the pipes from breaking
21:31 psydroid2; in winter
21:31 schestowitz_TR2; they only break after thawing at about -2
21:31 schestowitz_TR2; if they're outdoors like ours
21:32 DaemonFC; https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/speakers/speaker_accessories/wave-fm-antenna.html#ProductTabs_tab999
21:32 DaemonFC; "No old fashioned screw terminals." Just a coaxial.
21:33 DaemonFC; FM antennas aren't particularly fancy. You can buy coaxial FM antennas that work with the old Bose systems from all kinds of sellers on ebay and Amazon. It's all from China but it's so simple I doubt that you'll have any trouble out of it.
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21:34 DaemonFC; When I was a kid and I wanted to have a TV in my bedroom, my dad was so cheap that I ended up making a UHF/VHF antenna out of an old copper coat hanger and some aluminum foil and copper wiring I cut off a tube he had in the garage.
21:35 DaemonFC; It worked fine. I could get TV stations from Fort Wayne, Muncie, and Indianapolis pretty clearly. They were 35 miles northeast, 30 miles southeast, and 85 miles south.
21:36 DaemonFC; There was plenty of free stuff over the air back then.
21:36 DaemonFC; You didn't really need cable.
21:36 DaemonFC; Our public television has always been badly under-funded, even before Bush and Trump.
21:37 DaemonFC; Even in the 90s, PBS affiliates had to gather up small donations to pool together to buy rebroadcasting rights to things like Doctor Who, The Red Green Show, and Red Dwarf.
21:38 DaemonFC; So it was almost all British and Canadian public TV they just bought broadcast rights too. Very little was US-based other than Nova, Reading Rainbow, Sesame Street, some nature documentaries, etc.
21:38 DaemonFC; The US-based stuff wasn't all crap, but a lot of it was for children.
21:39 DaemonFC; They had Bill Nye the Science Guy. He was always fun to watch even if he was a bit remedial.
21:39 DaemonFC; I doubt adults today have the science education of a 6th grader back when he was on the air originally, before Netflix brought him back briefly.
21:40 DaemonFC; There's no reason to educate people to be scientific. To have a mind that wants to know "why" or "how". It doesn't help corrupt politicians who want to line their pockets with your money and control feebleminded people and keep them bickering with each other over nonsense.
21:42 DaemonFC; Everything Orwellian has now happened, in this country. Permanent war, "telescreens" (iPads, Windows, iPhones, etc.), an economy based on keeping neighbors bickering with each other with brief respites to watch porn and sporting events and to buy lottery scratchers, and cheap alcohol.
21:43 DaemonFC; Nineteen Eighty-Four was optimistic. It presumed that there would be a lot of people such as Winston Smith, who knew better, but went along with it anyway because they were being watched.
21:43 DaemonFC; In fact, today, 90% of the public is basically so stupid that they don't know how to participate in basic civic process and it's probably better if they don't vote at all.
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21:45 DaemonFC; Sometimes I get what I vote for and when I get what I really wanted, it's not so bad. But it's rare. Usually I get saddled with the douch or the turd sandwich like the Biden/Trump thing.
21:45 DaemonFC; *douche
21:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I don't think you want to admit it, but your country has gone there and bought the T-shirt too, although it may not be as bad in some ways, it's actually more pervasive in others.
21:46 DaemonFC; I mean, you have the NHS, what's left of it. Good for you. I hope you can see a doctor this year. I hope you're satisfied with the taxes.
21:46 DaemonFC; But then, you have Johnson's crime bill which is something that would make most Republicans here go "What the fuck!".
21:47 DaemonFC; Trump actually did have the legal authority to do what he was threatening to do during the riots. The President has the authority to send in the marines when the state governors can't or won't protect people's lives, property, and civil rights.
21:48 DaemonFC; Kennedy did it with Alabama. Trump could have done it with Chicago.
21:48 DaemonFC; In fact, it's been done. The reason he didn't actually go through with it is because I think he is smarter than he projects to get votes.
21:49 psydroid2; I don't know if Moronix has been posting more AMD articles, but their new processors for later this year aren't even going to perform much better than their 2-year-old ones nor consume less power
21:49 DaemonFC; He's undoubtedly aware of what happened when there were riots in Detroit and Chicago in the 1960s and the military was sent in to restore order. And they didn't. The riots got worse. The rioters started shooting at the army, the army army started shooting back. It was a disaster.
21:49 DaemonFC; Neighborhoods on fire. Damage that can still be seen today.
21:49 DaemonFC; So that's way worse than some Oakley sunglass store being sacked.
21:50 schestowitz_TR2; psydroid2: these were meentioned
21:50 schestowitz_TR2; and then by the "me tooers" of michael
21:50 DaemonFC; But many younger people today don't know anything about history, even of their own country. Even major events such as Watergate, the Civil Rights movement, or the Vietnam War.
21:50 schestowitz_TR2; e.g. <techrights-news> Two energy wasters https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-could-be-readying-a-super-cheap-gpu-to-tackle-nvidias-rumored-gtx-1630 we need to innovate in another direction...
21:50 TR Bot; could be readying a super-cheap GPU to tackle Nvidias rumored GTX 1630 | TechRadar
21:50 DaemonFC; So it's impossible to avoid the same things happening today.
21:51 DaemonFC; Because politicians can keep tricking the latest generation, when they don't know where the proposals lead last time.
21:51 DaemonFC; So there's not just an incentive to keep people scientifically illiterate, but also illiterate of history.
21:52 DaemonFC; We already have a fresh batch of adults, who *can* vote, who don't know what happened on September 11, 2001, or why the Iraq War happened.
21:53 DaemonFC; So yeah, fucked. And we're fucked because we have two parties who each have their own reasons to keep people dumb.
21:53 DaemonFC; The left wants people dumb so they can be controlled with handouts.
21:53 DaemonFC; The right wants people dumb so they'll be religious and easy to manipulate with issues like reproductive rights.
21:54 DaemonFC; When you start educating yourself, you start forming your own variety of opinions about things, and then nobody likes you, because 90% of the population is stupid and is completely in the bag for the leftists or the right-wing fascists and Nazis.
21:55 DaemonFC; I intend to split my ballot this year, honestly. I honestly intend to do that. We'll see how my slate of Republican candidates did. I sure as hell don't want them to get the US Senate seat, but I think other than that, anything goes.
21:56 DaemonFC; I didn't think any of the Republican candidates for the US Senate were any good. They were all some form of Trump asshole-licker, so I just voted strategically and for the very worst one while I was at it.
21:57 DaemonFC; And there's a logic to that, right? If they're all going to be openly racist, especially against Asian people, then pick the one that's very VERY open about it. The thing is, the incumbent Senator is an Asian woman and she's a veteran of the war in Iraq, and you know, if this guy I voted to saddle the Republicans with wins and goes to a live debate with her in Illinois, the result will be he gets demolished in the election.
21:58 DaemonFC; Because he won't be able to contain himself in the debate if he hasn't bothered to on his website.
22:00 DaemonFC; For the rest of the ballot, I voted towards moderate Republicans. There's a black man running for Governor, a South Korean immigrant running for Secretary of State, and a former Democrat turned Republican who used to be our Sheriff running for the Supreme Court. It's pretty diverse, none of them are extremists. Richard Irvin (the candidate for Governor) says he actually wants to expand Illinois state-level protections for immigrant families
22:00 DaemonFC; beyond what Pritzker did.
22:00 DaemonFC; You never hear about these people.
22:00 DaemonFC; I think it's time we changed that and push things back to roughly where the party was in the 1960s before Nixon started openly courting southern racists.
22:01 DaemonFC; That's where things started to go very badly wrong. You let all of that trash in and they're your base now. And you own that, and they start making more demands with the power you handed them.
22:01 psydroid2; schestowitz_TR2, they are going to be in a world of hurt if performance of ARM and RISC-V processors are going to reach their levels at a fraction of power consumption and cost. Too many people are dismissing this because of some holy grail of "binary compatibility", but why would Microsoft keep trying to get people to develop and make available applications for Windows on ARM then
22:02 TR News; "I recently took up basketry as a hobby. Each basket has been a bit better, as one would expect, but this one -- my fourth -- is the first one I'm truly happy with. It's the first one that I've stained and sealed with a wood oil and I think it really completes what otherwise looks like a half-finished product." gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/handiwork/fourthBasket.gmi photos too...
22:02 DaemonFC; Johnson's party in the UK is doing vouchers for religious schools too.
22:02 DaemonFC; I think it was Dawkins that pointed this out?
22:03 DaemonFC; The UK is turning into the Alabama of Europe.
22:03 DaemonFC; And it's all coming from England.
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22:04 DaemonFC; MinceR, I'll tell you how damned expensive Bose systems are.
22:05 DaemonFC; Even broken Wave Radios, people want $100 for them on eBay, and they're broken and missing the remote, and they say all you can do with it is cannibalize them for parts, and they're not even the latest model.
22:05 DaemonFC; :P
22:07 schestowitz_TR2; psydroid2: I do almost all my programming on arm
22:07 schestowitz_TR2; because of a number of factors
22:07 schestowitz_TR2; all our critical files are also on amr
22:07 schestowitz_TR2; *arm
22:07 schestowitz_TR2; xx86 is good for heavy computation
22:08 schestowitz_TR2; like vidoe processing, which is just automated and goes on for hours
22:09 bnchs; i think mips is good for both cases
22:10 DaemonFC; MinceR, Cars are all basically BMW now.
22:10 DaemonFC; They take these cheap little engines and put twin overhead cams and turbochargers on them.
22:10 DaemonFC; They're not built to last.
22:10 psydroid2; mips barely exists anymore outside of loongson
22:10 DaemonFC; The only upside with a Chevy or Ford is at least the car doesn't cost a fortune, so when it finally takes a dump on you, you'll be out LESS money.
22:10 psydroid2; and higher-end arm is also fast while still using much less power than x86
22:11 DaemonFC; I'm highly skeptical of anyone who claims you can reliably get more than 200 horsepower out of a 1.5 liter engine.
22:11 DaemonFC; You can, if you're not at all concerned about longevity.
22:14 DaemonFC; A 200 horsepower engine without a turbo and overhead cams, is going to be about three times the size of what these companies are shipping now.
22:15 DaemonFC; And it'll go for 400,000 miles or so because there's not as much strain on any particular part of the engine, and the engine is made out of more durable materials.
22:15 DaemonFC; They don't want to do this anymore.
22:16 DaemonFC; At some point, I guess, GM realized it's easier to ship crap in a Buick and get away with it because the owners tend to be old and not drive them much anyway. There's lots of cars like mine that go on the market and they're 14-15 years old with 50,000-60,000 miles.
22:17 DaemonFC; They don't drive them around a lot like young people do. You see a lot of 2018s, 2020s....They already have over 100,000 miles on them. And because they model year is a lot newer, you have to pay twice as much or more.
22:17 DaemonFC; Everyone around me who goes car shopping says the same thing "It's hard to find anything under $20,000 that's not absolute garbage on its way to the dump.
22:18 DaemonFC; So I mean, even with the rust repair job and the brake overhaul, and the wheel bearing replacements, and the new tensioner, and the flushings, filters, oil change, and belt replacement. I'm doing a hell of a lot better than that. And the car looks good, it drives good. It's totally quiet while you're driving it. The transmission is smooth.
22:19 DaemonFC; It's easier to find a older car that has some sin going on and fix it than it is to try to find something that's good to go right now.
22:19 DaemonFC; You will pay double, or more if you want something that is not going to need some work done up front.
22:20 TR News; "I am extremely against how the reddit algorithm squashes genuine taste and voice." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
22:24 DaemonFC; I almost never drive anything that was newer than about 14 years old when I bought it. And if you can believe it, I've only had one car break down and strand me somewhere in the last 22 years.
22:24 DaemonFC; It's because I generally watch what the hell I'm buying.
22:25 DaemonFC; Then I pay some guy to fix anything that was wrong with it when I bought it that's going to be a reliability issue at some point.
22:26 DaemonFC; My mom gets random cars off some buy here pay here lot and they fall apart right away and she still owes payments and can't afford to fix anything, and biting her nails hoping that the payments are over before she loses that car.
22:26 DaemonFC; She's bought them new and destroyed them in less than three years before though.
22:27 DaemonFC; She's particularly hard on transmissions. Many of her cars have serious transmission problems, mostly because she doesn't service them like you ought to and because she doesn't wait until the car is fully stopped before switching gears.
22:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, She was offering to hand me that 2011 Impala LTZ she has right now.
22:27 DaemonFC; I told my mechanic that. He says, "Well, if it was going to be free, why didn't you take it?".
22:28 TR News; "I could eat the axx out of a dead rhinoceros" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/982
22:28 DaemonFC; I said, "Because I'd be right back in here paying you thousands of dollars anyway, in installments. You don't want a free car from mom."
22:28 DaemonFC; Oh my god, she hits every pothole. Like she's aiming for them.
22:28 DaemonFC; She stands up on the brake pedal.
22:28 TR News; Why Everyone Should Use Adguard gemini://sanelkukic.smol.pub/2022-05-29_why-everyone-should-use-adguard "I hate ads. I think anyone who knows me can attest to the fact that I hate ads."
22:29 DaemonFC; She puts everything she buys through Hell.
22:29 DaemonFC; She asked me how my portable washer is running. I said, "Fine, why?". She goes, "I can't get them to last more then about 3 months.".
22:29 TR News; "As it is custom, whatever trend appears in America becomes mainstream in Japan after it has completely lost its cool. This time the government and a billionaire think what the Japanese people really should care about is some jpgs." gemini://nelforzo.smol.pub/1653817188
22:29 DaemonFC; I have no idea what she is doing to her washing machines. Probably treating them like her Impalas and Pontiacs.
22:30 DaemonFC; If you could run the washing machine straight over a 2.5 foot curb, she'd do it.
22:30 DaemonFC; She did that to one of her cars and blew out both the tires and dented the rims.
22:31 DaemonFC; Because she hit the gas and instead of turning, she just drove over a curb.
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22:32 TR News; "Some of them are big (family members dying, lockdowns, depression, lockdown depression), but most of them are small (see aforementioned noisy neighbour)." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/981
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22:52 matey; /me still prefers gnu screen to tmux
22:52 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-05-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:52 matey; fewer features, less github
22:52 matey; until they move that there too
22:53 activelow; matey: ever tried dvtm?
22:53 matey; if the chief gnuisance is too hobbled, like james caan in misery
22:53 matey; other people can still say what a load of crap it is
22:53 activelow; i think dvtm is the most capable terminal multiplexer
22:54 matey; the reason they call it a coc by the way
22:54 matey; is because like kathy bates in misery
22:54 schestowitz_TR2; <techrights-news> Corporations hiding their crimes behind the veil of "diversity" does NOT help minorities but EXPLOITS minorities that are hurt the MOST by these corporate crimes
22:55 matey; the big fans of free software at lieplanet wont tolerate ANY cockadoodie from neckbeards
22:55 schestowitz_TR2; <techrights-news> EPO President Antnio Campinos is still not being held accountable for his Code of Conduct violations http://techrights.org/2022/05/23/monopoly-tony-code-of-conduct-violations/
22:55 TR Bot; [Meme] Its My Working Party And Ill Cry If I Want to! | Techrights
22:55 matey; bates wants to write the ending of sheldons book
22:55 matey; and lieplanet wants to write the ending of the fsf
22:56 schestowitz; [15:07] <techrights-news> I think many of us have seen that a CoC does NOT protect who the media (corporations) said to us it would protect. CoC stands for Cannot Ostracise Corporations.
22:56 matey; anything they have to do to see it happen their way is obviously justified
22:56 matey; maybe its wrong, maybe its terrible-- but at least its not cockadoodie
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22:57 matey; hell tmux even comes included with openbsd
22:57 matey; it isnt perfect, thats for sure
22:58 matey; but at least it isnt part of systemd yet
22:58 matey; systemd-multiplexd
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
22:59 matey; john hancock had such a long signature that it became synonymous with signing things
22:59 activelow; i used tmux for many years, i consider dvtm superior, because the expected feature-set is complete with dvtm, and dvtm is ~90% smaller than tmux (linux of code, and binary size)
22:59 matey; systemd seems to have the same mentality towards naming their components
23:00 activelow; *lines of code
23:01 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/right-in
23:01 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Right In
23:02 activelow; migrated my entire setup to yaft+dvtm already, and won't return to gnome/microsoft/systemd whatever
23:02 matey; lennart poettering doesnt think systemd-multiplexd is too long a name
23:02 activelow; i could wipe GNU readline, GNU glib... by coincidence it seems, alot of the GNU aren't necessary anymore too
23:02 matey; his middle name is stroopwaffel
23:03 psydruid; lennartpoetteringthebutcherofgnulinuxfromredhat
23:03 matey; also known as the flying bakery brigade
23:03 activelow; except... GNU debugger, it is the only one remaining to insist on GNU readline
23:03 matey; the weiss angel of gnu/linux
23:03 activelow; don't know, if any other debugger exists, to avoid GDB, although that's not necessary, GCC it is which causes endless pain
23:04 matey; herr doktor poettering
23:04 matey; know for his "experiments" with init systemd
23:04 matey; systems
23:04 matey; ill never be able to type that word properly again
23:04 matey; on the second try sure
23:04 matey; but never the first
23:04 activelow; to remain fair with systemd... sysvinit wasn't particularly good before
23:05 MinceR; it also wasn't particularly bad
23:05 matey; what, when it was optional?
23:05 activelow; MinceR: without OpenRC my system boots twice as fast, with the exact same services started
23:06 activelow; and i did enable parallelism with openrc, with my custon rc script i didn't
23:06 MinceR; so what's in place of openrc?
23:06 activelow; MinceR: /bin/sh with a while ; do ; done to re/spawn gettys
23:06 matey; honestly if it wasnt for sane options like rc.d
23:06 MinceR; oh, you're the one who decided that reaping zombies was for squares
23:07 matey; id just do like dr sixel and run my own non-init
23:07 matey; really, autoexec was all i needed
23:07 matey; and rc.d does about as much to get in your way or tell you what to do as autoexec.bat did
23:07 matey; now thats considerate
23:08 matey; when you see the painstaking effort made to NOT make rc.d into a pain in the arse
23:08 matey; its basically the opposite of systemd in every way
23:08 matey; except its modern enough
23:08 matey; for people who cant bear to use something more than 5 years old (like epstein. no, wait)
23:08 matey; what do think jeff?
23:09 matey; i dont know, 18 years is kind of obsolete
23:09 matey; today someone online said nt was crappy security because the kernel is 20 years old
23:09 matey; ...
23:09 matey; right conclusion, but
23:09 matey; linux is older
23:09 matey; i thought it was a weird argument
23:10 matey; i was like "yeah, better use 30-year-old linix kernel, since nt is old and obsolete"
23:12 psydruid; they actually wanted to say that Microsoft has only been applying layers of duct tape since the early days instead of thoroughly reworking the kernel to become better and more maintainable
23:12 matey; they should have said that
23:12 psydruid; but that's squarely a Microsoft problem
23:12 matey; indeed
23:12 matey; afaik theyve never written a kernel on their own
23:13 matey; dos was based on qdos, they bought that
23:13 matey; nt was based on joint research with ibm
23:13 matey; if microsoft is so great at making an os
23:13 matey; how come theyve never actually made one?
23:13 psydruid; that's the elephant in the room
23:13 matey; to be fair, im not sure about minux. but thats probably not original either
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23:13 matey; minix even
23:14 matey; that was surprisingly enjoyable SomeH4x0r
23:14 matey; credit where credit is due
23:14 matey; also dd is WAY different than i expected
23:14 matey; hes lke
23:14 matey; not really even slightly a douchebag (so far)
23:14 matey; i was expecting a SLIGHT one at least
23:15 matey; which would be fine
23:15 SomeH4x0r; not sure what are you talking about, my connection keeps glitching
23:15 matey; but i didnt think we would have much in common
23:15 matey; not sure what are you talking about <- no worries, its only good things anyway
23:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/05/29/wsl-windows-malware-steals-browser-cookies-deploys-remote-access-trojan-bleeping-computer-calls-out-windows/
23:18 TR Bot; WSL Windows malware steals browser cookies, deploys Remote Access Trojan. Bleeping Computer calls out Windows. BaronHK's Rants
23:18 DaemonFC; How is this?
23:19 DaemonFC; "Calling Windows the future of operating systems is like calling Sears the future of retail."
23:20 activelow; windows NT was based on DEC OpenVMS
23:20 activelow; wasn't aware DEC was associated with IBM
23:21 DaemonFC; Microsoft is just a bunch of packrats and copycats.
23:21 DaemonFC; They steal everything and then pay out a lawsuit settlement about that later.
23:21 activelow; don't know, why the DEC developers joined Microsoft
23:22 DaemonFC; DEC sued them and it settled out of court for undisclosed amounts of money to DEC, but some say it was almost $700 million over 20 years ago.
23:22 DaemonFC; <activelow> don't know, why the DEC developers joined Microsoft
23:22 DaemonFC; Money. They probably offered them better money.
23:22 activelow; didn't know Microsoft was sued by DEC
23:22 activelow; anyway, DEC is defunct since 1998
23:23 activelow; and 30years later, the anti-competitive crap is an endless headache still
23:24 activelow; one to mention again: filesystems
23:25 matey; xenix
23:26 matey; xenix was the microsoft one
23:26 activelow; ultrix (dec), aix (ibm), solaris (sun)
23:26 matey; www.unixmen.com/xenix-the-microsoft-unix-that-once-was/
23:26 matey; In 1979, Microsoft formed an agreement with AT&T Corporation to license Unix from AT&T. And then Microsoft licensed out its renamed Unix to OEM vendors, including Intel, Tandy and SCO. Those companies then ported it to their own hardware architectures and requirements.
23:26 matey; "to license Unix from AT&T. And then Microsoft licensed out its renamed Unix"
23:26 matey; so, yeah
23:26 matey; one again. microsoft cant even make a fucking os
23:26 psydruid; short-term monetary gains for the few at the expense of long-term gigantic losses for society as a whole
23:27 matey; but people have heard so much fucking marketing, they think its the best one
23:27 matey; if youre in marketing, kill yourself
23:27 psydruid; but that's how mankind rolls
23:27 matey; no, thats what mincer thinks too
23:27 matey; thats how capitalism rolls
23:27 matey; and despite what he says about "if you call everything you dont like 'capitalism'"
23:27 matey; anti-capitalists tend to have a better (clearer, more precise) definition of capitalism than the capitalists do
23:28 MinceR; i'd like to see such a definition, and i'd like to see it applied consistently
23:28 matey; in the same way that atheists often know more about the bible than the nutjubs praying to the guy with bad hair on the television
23:28 matey; mincer: thats fair
23:28 matey; a tall order, but tair
23:28 matey; fuck typing
23:28 matey; /me hires someone to do dictation
23:28 matey; not stalin though, fuck that guy
23:28 MinceR; i'm not saying i'd like to see people agree on one, because i know that's never going to happen
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23:29 matey; dont worry, anyone who doesnt agree, we know what to do with them
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23:29 activelow; nowadays, linux kernel is abused as corporate dump-yard, i had preferred IBM/DEC/Microsoft dumped their own systems with anti-competitive crap, instead of poisoning linux kernel
23:29 activelow; and GNU, particularly GNU compiler
23:29 matey; i have a guess who bnchs is, but obviously i wouldnt say
23:29 matey; i wouldnt even hint
23:30 psydruid; I believe linux was always destined to become a corporate dumping ground
23:30 matey; politically, its been one since the 90s
23:30 matey; linus is one of the people
23:30 psydruid; and it has reached its full potential in that regard
23:30 matey; he says hes modest
23:30 matey; and you can tell hes full of shit
23:30 matey; he isnt modest
23:31 matey; he took credit for something way more important than linux-- AND THEN
23:31 TR News; Another Way to See Latest Gemini Activities | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gemini-activities/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/gemini-activities/
23:31 TR Bot; Another Way to See Latest Gemini Activities | Techrights
23:31 matey; he let people make docu after docu about how he invented all this
23:31 matey; thats not remotely ethical
23:31 psydruid; fake modesty Scandinavian style
23:31 matey; i dont know scandinavians
23:31 matey; but id avoid the region if its typical
23:31 matey; i think most do anyway just because its fucking cold
23:32 psydruid; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante
23:32 TR Bot; Law of Jante - Wikipedia
23:32 matey; linus has been selling out forever
23:32 matey; only slightly less
23:33 matey; painting him as a hero
23:33 bnchs; i think you and somehacker and xrevan86 already know
23:33 matey; politically speaking, hes a charlatan
23:33 matey; bnchs: wrong, its only a guess
23:33 matey; no worries
23:33 matey; either way its your business
23:33 bnchs; alright
23:33 matey; i didnt even know xrevan was in there :)
23:34 matey; he probably only speaks jamaican patois in there, and didnt say much
23:34 matey; he would make an excellent spy if he doesnt already :)
23:34 matey; though i admit, the russian spy thing is SO OLD
23:34 matey; even as a joke
23:34 XRevan86; I already know what?
23:35 matey; (also i didnt say for russia. he could be doing it for canada)
23:35 matey; mountie spies are especially crafty
23:35 activelow; i don't think it was linus at fault
23:35 activelow; nor most of the kernel veteran kernel developers
23:35 matey; its boring in canada and most people take up spying for shits and giggles
23:35 matey; no one expects the canadian inquisition because theyre so fucking polite
23:36 matey; by the time youve had tea and chatted for 5 minutes, they already know everything they need to know
23:36 matey; the crazy psychopath lady from america does a ted talk on this
23:36 matey; but they learned it from the canadians
23:36 matey; after they figured out theyd been had
23:37 matey; anyway, when they burned down the white house, they didnt even bring matches
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23:37 matey; they just asked for one
23:37 DaemonFC; Very politely.
23:37 matey; im terrified of canadians
23:37 DaemonFC; And also some artwork that was impossible to replace to kindle it with.
23:37 matey; you never spot it until its too late
23:38 DaemonFC; Also, very politely.
23:38 DaemonFC; Then saying they were very sorrrrrrey about all of this.
23:38 DaemonFC; Well, aboot all of this.
23:38 matey; ryan reynolds, perfect example
23:39 DaemonFC; I can only imagine that. "We're really sorey aboot this, don'tcha know!".
23:39 matey; his uncle was a mounty
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23:39 DaemonFC; A Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksman?
23:40 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7hVjZHp6YQ
23:40 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=_7hVjZHp6YQ
23:40 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=_7hVjZHp6YQ )
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23:43 schestowitz; DaemonFC: "unless the user goes through"
23:43 schestowitz; before that GNU/Linux is misspelled
23:44 matey; its spelled ibm/microsoft now
23:44 matey; or as i now like to call it, ibm+microsoft
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23:46 TR News; WSL Windows Malware Steals Browser Cookies, Deploys Remote Access Trojan | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/wsl-malware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/29/wsl-malware/
23:46 TR Bot; WSL Windows Malware Steals Browser Cookies, Deploys Remote Access Trojan | Techrights
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23:48 TR News; "At one point in time the pacman contrib scripts shipped with pacman and shipped with Arch Linux but due to maintenance issues it was split out." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VldltVyD4i0
23:48 TR Bot; These Pacman Scripts Should Ship With Arch Linux - Invidious
23:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Fixed.
23:54 TR News; Zeitgeist for the planetary system of Gemini capsules isnt a new challenge but an ongoing effort; weve had another go at it http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/gemini-activities/
23:54 TR Bot; Another Way to See Latest Gemini Activities | Techrights
23:54 TR News; "Microsoft has spent a lot of time and money trying to Embrace, Extend, and Exterminate GNU/Linux. First, they decried it a cancer and Communism." http://techrights.org/2022/05/29/wsl-malware/
23:57 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165392
23:57 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:58 matey; As detailed in U.S. military compromised by removable media malware, the United States Department of Defense was compromised by malware carried on removable media that was automatically executed every time the media was read by an MS Windows computer.
23:58 matey; While it is possible to turn off AutoRun functionality, it is not always easy, and that functionality should not be the default anyway. Even worse, Windows Update has been known to surreptitiously reactivate capabilities like AutoRun.
23:59 matey; 2010. when techrepublic wasnt a pile of shit https://www.techrepublic.com/article/unix-vs-microsoft-windows-how-system-designs-reflect-security-philosophy/
23:59 TR Bot; vs. Microsoft Windows: How system designs reflect security philosophy | TechRepublic
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