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2 AM, May 28

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3 AM, May 28

03:02 Techrights-sec; The ~stack post misses the point that it is a full, general-purpose computer.

03:02 Techrights-sec; not a microcontroller. However, the complaints about the exploitation by

03:02 Techrights-sec; scalpers still stand.


4 AM, May 28

04:25 schestowitz-TR; Yes, I did not fancy the headline

04:25 schestowitz-TR; However, I do find some rather interesting new nuggets in Gemini

04:25 schestowitz-TR; there are many neirdos there

04:25 schestowitz-TR; but also some technical people

04:25 schestowitz-TR; and the technical stuff is not jujsta bout gemini, gopher etc.

04:25 schestowitz-TR; some of it is about software or "Internet" freedom

04:25 schestowitz-TR; the sorts of things we do tgend to dabble in every now and then

04:25 schestowitz-TR; I've tried to take advantage of the extra time to reorganise here

04:26 schestowitz-TR; I have some enhancements in mind for the "planet"

04:26 schestowitz-TR; I also added some domains to the camelcase file which, together with the toc, make up

04:26 schestowitz-TR; very good and now more frequent Dasily Links

04:26 schestowitz-TR; no other site comes close to providing such a news service

04:26 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile, fossforce stopped publishing new things

04:26 schestowitz-TR; Christine has just published another Microsoft puff piece via LF in some third party site

04:26 schestowitz-TR; That's where the money is....


5 AM, May 28

05:16 schestowitz-TR; today's gz files, for second day in a row, all OK

05:16 schestowitz-TR; I'll be afk in a moment


7 AM, May 28

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10 AM, May 28

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10:19 schestowitz-TR; incomplete draft

10:19 schestowitz-TR; afk

10:19 schestowitz-TR; ota

10:19 schestowitz-TR; organising the oifice space today

10:19 schestowitz-TR; whgile time fof work lasts

10:27 Techrights-sec; ack

10:27 schestowitz-TR; I've just turned ipfs back on, tso latency is higher


noon, May 28

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1 PM, May 28

13:22 Techrights-sec; ack

13:22 Techrights-sec; see ~lars/bin/tc-shaper-08.sh

13:22 Techrights-sec; (untested)

13:23 schestowitz-TR; I overslept

13:23 schestowitz-TR; maybe I should say "slept well"

13:23 schestowitz-TR; sorry, and thanks, I'll test the file now

13:36 Techrights-sec; ack

13:36 schestowitz-TR; many of the remaining Errors follow, from thw absence of something

13:39 Techrights-sec; I don't get any errors here so aomething might be missing there

13:40 schestowitz-TR; I will try to mess with it....

13:47 schestowitz-TR; the "add" and "replace" commands are failing, same error, I'll dig into that

13:47 schestowitz-TR; maybe tc got upgraded

13:47 schestowitz-TR; I use version:

13:47 schestowitz-TR; tc -V

13:47 schestowitz-TR; iproiute2-5.9.0 libbpf 0.2.0

13:47 schestowitz-TR; kernel loaded 5.10.63-V71+

13:52 Techrights-sec; # tc -V

13:52 Techrights-sec; tc utility, iproute2-5.9.0, libbpf 0.3.0

13:52 Techrights-sec; # uname -sr

13:52 Techrights-sec; Linux 5.15.32-v8+

13:52 Techrights-sec; # lsb_release -rd

13:52 Techrights-sec; Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

13:52 Techrights-sec; Release: 11

13:52 Techrights-sec; (raspberry pi os)

13:53 schestowitz-TR; I wonder how you got a kernel so new and why my kernel became so broken after a reboot

13:53 schestowitz-TR; with error on reboot and then no wifi

13:53 schestowitz-TR; if there a package that gets me on a more suitable kernel?

13:55 schestowitz-TR; at the moment cost of the available system updates are CUPS packages

13:55 schestowitz-TR; and then there's the emergency (JS) firefox esr fix

13:56 Techrights-sec; not sure

13:56 Techrights-sec; # apt-cache policy raspberrypi-kernel | head -n 3

13:56 Techrights-sec; raspberrypi-kernel:

13:56 Techrights-sec; Installed: 1:1.20220331-1

13:56 Techrights-sec; Candidate: 1:1.20220331-1


2 PM, May 28

14:02 schestowitz-TR; # apt-cache policy raspberrypi-kernel | head -n 3

14:02 schestowitz-TR; gives me the same output

14:02 schestowitz-TR; # uname -sr

14:02 schestowitz-TR; gives me 5.10.something

14:02 schestowitz-TR; I think all these issue might boil down to the kernel

14:02 schestowitz-TR; I didn't check how the raspi kernel selector worked

14:02 schestowitz-TR; for fear I'd boot into something that locks me out by virtue of not even boostrapping

14:08 schestowitz-TR; is it possible that when it boots is attempts to load the latest kernel, then fails, then loads some rather old one instead

14:08 schestowitz-TR; as a fallback?

14:08 schestowitz-TR; it's booting too fast for me to read everything

14:08 Techrights-sec; did you change /boot/config.txt

14:09 schestowitz-TR; i did not change it, I saw it and did not notice options of relevance there, but I will check again now

14:25 schestowitz-TR; I am reading a bunch of forum threads about people with kernel issues after updates

14:25 schestowitz-TR; and various things not working after that

14:25 schestowitz-TR; my hunch is that tc and wlan0 and a bunch of smaller things are

14:25 schestowitz-TR; impacted by the kernel changes

14:25 schestowitz-TR; I used dpkg to check versions of things

14:25 schestowitz-TR; and the CLI raspi config tool (ncurses)

14:25 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to risk breaking the system completely

14:25 schestowitz-TR; maybe I should just turn ipfs on and off until the next kernel update is available

14:25 schestowitz-TR; and then hope it'' fix things

14:25 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to install anything experimental

14:25 schestowitz-TR; as I said, the usb (which I plugged into the black port, so it was slow)

14:25 schestowitz-TR; still has wifi working and I assume tc as well

14:25 schestowitz-TR; but it's about a month out of data and after system update, which is neeed

14:25 schestowitz-TR; for security reasons, it would likely inherit those very same problems

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14:52 schestowitz-TR; Rwading on this further, namewly how to revert back tom previously-used kernel, what I find are mostly

14:52 schestowitz-TR; hacks and third-party shit that puts at risk the booting sequence and integrity of the system

14:52 schestowitz-TR; given the nature of this system (file system, server etc.) I don't wish to take this risk

14:52 schestowitz-TR; maybe treat the nwew script you make as "coming soon" and assume the system is temporarily

14:52 schestowitz-TR; incapacitated until next time kernel becomes available? In the mean time I will not back whole system, just

14:52 schestowitz-TR; /home, as it doesn't have the binaries anyway


3 PM, May 28

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15:46 schestowitz; [02:29] <Source> Did you ever see that Alex Jones prison planet thing? [02:29] <Source> [02:29] <Source> I watched it for shits and giggles and because I was broke college student

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <schestowitz> I don't think highly of him ^_^

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <schestowitz> it helps understand some people

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <Source> But the theory about everything getting automated and then slowly getting killed off[02:30] <schestowitz> and what appeals to them

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <Source> So that the elite can become cyborgs and live forever off of the rest of earths resources and travel space

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <schestowitz> alex jones = start with a grain of truth

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <schestowitz> than provoke a little

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <Source> Which is also the plot to a 70s anime galaxy express 999[02:30] <schestowitz> than add fictional agenda stuff

15:46 schestowitz; [02:30] <schestowitz> and sell shit to cranks

15:46 schestowitz; [02:31] <Source> Yeah exactly grain of truth that turns into a shit storm

15:46 schestowitz; [02:31] <schestowitz> yeah

15:46 schestowitz; [02:31] <Source> Just like Chem trails lol they put sand in the cloud and make rain [02:32] <Source> I saw this back in like 2009 so don't judge me too much[02:32] <schestowitz> it helps discredit people by entrapping them

15:46 schestowitz; [02:32] <Source> It was free and I laughed the whole time

15:46 schestowitz; [02:32] <schestowitz> its a common disinformation tactic

15:46 schestowitz; [02:32] <schestowitz> we wrote a lot about this for ages

15:46 schestowitz; [02:33] <schestowitz> like all this "5g causes covid" and "changes your dna" BS

15:46 schestowitz; [02:33] <Source> Yeah that's what Alex did to me

15:46 schestowitz; [02:33] <schestowitz> distracts from legit criticisms

15:46 schestowitz; [02:33] <Source> With all the BS about she showed up to my parents house

15:46 schestowitz; [02:33] <schestowitz> l;like patents

15:46 schestowitz; [02:33] <Source> Because you stole my keys

15:46 schestowitz; [02:34] <schestowitz> the ALLEGEDLY $200,000,000 man...

15:46 schestowitz; [02:34] <schestowitz> enjoying his little cell

15:46 schestowitz; [02:34] <schestowitz> toxic person

15:46 schestowitz; [02:34] <Source> I guess[02:34] <schestowitz> "fun to be around with, but..."

15:46 schestowitz; [02:34] <Source> He's probably in population

15:46 schestowitz; [02:35] <Source> He honestly wasn't even that fun to be around[02:35] <Source> But I am super fun so it's hard to live up to that

15:46 schestowitz; [02:35] <Source> You know it's like the whole Taylor Swift thing[02:36] <Source> It makes men angry when women are funny


5 PM, May 28

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17:23 schestowitz; "Percentage Used: Contains a vendor specific estimate of the percentage of NVM subsystem life used based on the actual usage and the manufacturers prediction of NVM life. A value of 100 indicates that the estimated endurance of the NVM in the NVM subsystem has been consumed, but may not indicate an NVM subsystem failure. The value is allowed to exceed 100. Percentages greater than 254 shall be represented as 255. This value shall be updated

17:23 schestowitz; once per power-on hour (when the controller is not in a sleep state)."

17:23 schestowitz; https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/652623/how-to-evaluate-the-wear-level-of-a-nvme-ssd

↺ https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/652623/how-to-evaluate-the-wear-level-of-a-nvme-ssd

17:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-unix.stackexchange.com | smartctl - How to evaluate the wear level of a NVMe SSD? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange

17:24 schestowitz-TR; I am not approaching 129%.

17:24 schestowitz-TR; *now

17:24 schestowitz-TR; did some research into it, in order to better understand why SMART issues a warning and how to debug further

17:25 schestowitz-TR; like I said, this machine does not have critical data anymore, but it is used heavily

17:27 schestowitz; https://linux.die.net/man/8/smartctl

↺ https://linux.die.net/man/8/smartctl

17:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linux.die.net | smartctl(8) - Linux man page

17:27 schestowitz; "ssd - [SCSI] prints the Solid State Media percentage used endurance indicator. A value of 0 indicates as new condition while 100 indicates the device is at the end of its lifetime as projected by the manufacturer. The value may reach 255."

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17:58 Techrights-sec; the new script is for nftables the old script should still work

17:58 Techrights-sec; unless iptables is removed

17:59 schestowitz-TR; thanks! Much appreciated. I guess eome future distros/releases will have iptables deprecated entirely

17:59 schestowitz-TR; so it is good to be future-proof

17:59 schestowitz-TR; ipfs isn't great, but it did improve (like 10 times faster to "add") in recent releases


6 PM, May 28

18:01 Techrights-sec; ack

18:01 schestowitz-TR; draft btw (while video encodes)

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18:06 schestowitz-TR; now uploading the remainder, eta 18 mins

18:06 schestowitz-TR; I think this hits Microsoft where it hurts most (developers developers...)

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18:25 schestowitz-TR; howtoforge pushing tons of aws lately

18:25 schestowitz-TR; instead of real howtos

18:25 schestowitz-TR; clountoforge

18:25 Techrights-sec; ack

18:25 Techrights-sec; that's not so much from howtoforge itself but more how the site is being gamed

18:25 Techrights-sec; it's very vulnerable to gaming like that

18:26 schestowitz-TR; The "Linux" section of Slashdot is part-time Windows marketing section that helps Microsoft attack and smear "Linux"


7 PM, May 28

19:04 Techrights-sec; not part-time, most of the time; and most of the rest of the time it is a

19:04 Techrights-sec; FUD generator; I've only ever accidentally clicked on a /. link since aroudn

19:04 Techrights-sec; 2013 or 2014

19:04 Techrights-sec; I'm not even sure which company owns the site any more

19:05 schestowitz-TR; see draft re slashdot

19:07 schestowitz-TR; the current owners of the site, Logan, used to be in Techrights IRC saying things would improve

19:07 schestowitz-TR; and trying to convince us to change the wiki

19:07 schestowitz-TR; as time went on he broke his promise

19:07 schestowitz-TR; there's no money in promoting freedo

19:21 Techrights-sec; the is, it's just that the opponents are far more focused on tearing down

19:21 Techrights-sec; freedom and well organized against it. Those promoting freedom are not

19:22 schestowitz-TR; mnnot many people even grasp p the underlying concpts

19:22 schestowitz-TR; so there is explaining to be done

19:22 schestowitz-TR; so that there will be more of us

19:22 schestowitz-TR; not just demanding STEAM on "Linux"

19:25 schestowitz-TR; many people vagely relate to the concepts and the importance

19:25 schestowitz-TR; e.g. period-tracking "apps"

19:25 schestowitz-TR; so we can change thevocabulary uses

19:25 schestowitz-TR; EFF won't do it for us

19:25 schestowitz-TR; it will misframe the problem

19:25 schestowitz-TR; EFF target audience and donors are billionaires

19:25 schestowitz-TR; corporations

19:25 schestowitz-TR; and cofee sippers from "Gay/Bay Area"

19:25 schestowitz-TR; they don't want to turn off JS

19:25 schestowitz-TR; or stop dropping it by the megabytes into Web pages

19:25 schestowitz-TR; they also use Macs

19:25 schestowitz-TR; like the people who run the EFF

19:26 Techrights-sec; Sad demise for the EFF.

19:26 Techrights-sec; JS is just a vehicle for locking out FOSS and tying sites to use of specific

19:26 Techrights-sec; browsers once again.

19:28 schestowitz-TR; I still remember EFF wasting a month trash-talking pgp because of web pages disguised as "email"

19:28 schestowitz-TR; and then promoting shitty "apps" instead

19:28 schestowitz-TR; I totally lost respect for EFF at that point, a couuple of years before they decided that freedom

19:28 schestowitz-TR; fighters were in fact their enemies

19:28 schestowitz-TR; except ones called "alaa" (fattah)

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19:28 Techrights-sec; EFF has been anti-email in general for a while

19:28 Techrights-sec; ack

19:37 schestowitz-TR; do you know how to sniff out the mail server/services ued by eff.org?

19:37 schestowitz-TR; I can have a go at it myself

19:37 schestowitz-TR; if you do not

19:37 schestowitz-TR; maybe they have their own SamreenGas inside the EFF

19:37 schestowitz-TR; it's not like they have many techs left, it's a political wing and a badge/name for rental

19:37 schestowitz-TR; running one's email server is not easy when the techs leave, so sooner or later they will outsource

19:37 schestowitz-TR; and say "the clown", even if that directly contradicts the EFF's position on privacy

19:37 schestowitz-TR; I have som emails from eff.org, but that was years ago, infra may have changesd

19:45 Techrights-sec; ack

19:45 schestowitz-TR; web site and domain are vm1.eff.org in SF

19:45 schestowitz-TR; with 59 domains under this address

19:45 schestowitz-TR; those are other eff domains

19:45 schestowitz-TR; ports open http/s

19:45 schestowitz-TR; not the others, e.g. dns

19:45 schestowitz-TR; domains are

19:45 schestowitz-TR; trollingeeffect org

19:45 schestowitz-TR; httpsnow org

19:45 schestowitz-TR; sesta org

19:45 schestowitz-TR; about face org

19:45 schestowitz-TR; all sorts of eff campaign sites

19:45 schestowitz-TR; inc. very old ones

19:45 schestowitz-TR; there is smtp.slpha.eff.org

19:45 schestowitz-TR; *alpha

19:51 Techrights-sec; ack


9 PM, May 28

21:32 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Briefly want to sidetrack and tell you something. Computers were built different back then. I never experienced the craftsmanship that went into some of these older machines until the thinkcentre. 'The dinostation' is a IBM certifed 50 pound hunk of solid stainless steel. The case is the most solid and well-built of its kind that Ive personally handled." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-05-28-raspberry-pi-

↺ gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-05-28-raspberry-pi-

21:32 schestowitz-TR; affordabilit

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