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00:00 TR News; Melinda Gates: finds it more gross that her husband befriended a an underage sex trafficker than her husband being a corrupt, sick, greedy sociopath. She too is (or became) a corrupt, sick, greedy sociopath. But Epstein wasn't her taste...
00:01 TR News; Gates Foundation press releases about how much it loves children certainly did not age well
00:02 TR News; TV report on arrest of pedophile in home of Bill Gates http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/kiro-gates-porn-arrest.mp4
00:02 TR News; Sick man talks about sickness http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/gates-economics-chat.mp4
00:03 TR News; What Bill Gates does to the planet (2007) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Bill-and-Melinda-Gates-Foundation-Truth-Revealed.mp4
00:04 TR News; How Gates Foundation staff reacted to revelations that Bill Gates was sneaking behind his wife's back to meet a man whom you only befriend when you want access to underage girls http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gates-epstein.mp4
00:04 TR News; Sick man attacks the world's very poorest http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gates-africa.mp4
00:05 TR News; Rare recording: Bill Gates hit it off with ICBM only because of his mom, explains a manager who was there at the time (nepotism, not merit) http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Meet-Bill-Gates-fair-use.mp4
00:07 TR News; Slashdot used to be pro-Linux. Now a megaphone of Microsoft FUD against Linux https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/04/27/2110216/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users see http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
00:07 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/04/27/2110216/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/04/27/2110216/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users
00:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Finds Linux Desktop Flaw That Gives Root To Untrusted Users - Slashdot
00:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
00:07 TR News; "If you run Arch Linux or a distribution based on Arch Linux, you will occasionally encounter errors when using the package manager (pacman)." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RN0pIuE6ZmU
00:07 TR Bot; SOLVED: Pacman Wouldn't Let Me Run An Update! - Invidious
00:08 TR News; "Calcurse is a great application but if you want to go even more minimal than that how about you try out when which is as minimal as you can go while still being productive" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LslUKm1mqkw
00:08 TR Bot; The Most Usable Minimal Terminal Calendar! - Invidious
00:08 TR News; LOL "Gaming" headset.... does it also come in blue and pink for either gender? https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/corsair-void-rgb-elite-usb-gaming-headset/
00:08 TR Bot; Save $20 on a Corsair Void RGB Elite USB Gaming Headset - Make Tech Easier
00:11 TR News; Linux Lite 6.0 RC1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164102#comment-33481
00:11 psydruid; computer hardware news in general is becoming very uninteresting and repetitive
00:11 TR Bot; Linux Lite 6.0 RC1 Released | Tux Machines
00:12 TR News; Criminals (Microsoft) uses smokescreen to distract from actively-exploited critical flaws in Windows etc. Why does "LINUX TODAY" help them???? https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/
↺ https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/
00:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxtoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/nimbuspwn-bugs-allow-root-privilege-access-on-some-linux-machines/
00:12 TR Bot; Nimbuspwn Bugs Allow Root Privilege Access on Some Linux Machines
00:12 bnchs; true
00:12 bnchs; it's all about gamer gear or whatever that marketing bullshit is
00:12 bnchs; i miss when computer hardware progressed
00:13 psydruid; it does progress, but the progress is mostly outside of the mainstream
00:13 MinceR; gaming hardware used to be outside of the mainstream
00:13 psydruid; and mainstream media only report on it sporadically
00:14 schestowitz-TR; microsoft calls systemd "Linux"
00:14 psydruid; all mainstream hardware has become gaming hardware
00:14 schestowitz-TR; the media is in Microsoft's pockets
00:14 schestowitz-TR; corrupt
00:15 psydruid; those will be the last Mohicans of current mainstream hardware
00:15 psydruid; gamers and their suppliers I mean
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00:16 MinceR; especially some of the first optical gaming mice that were particularly good for FPS (being linear)
00:16 MinceR; the marketroids were pushing the models with higher DPI/CPI much harder and those were a lot more expensive too
00:16 MinceR; systemd-kerneld
00:16 psydruid; what will happen to the media when Microsoft inevitably goes down?
00:16 psydruid; will those go down with them?
00:17 MinceR; \_()_/
00:17 MinceR; maybe We'll All Go Together When We Go
00:18 schestowitz-TR; Lehrer
00:18 MinceR; indeed
00:18 psydruid; it's not something I'm concerned about
00:18 bnchs; there's still things i like about computer hardware
00:18 psydruid; it's more of an observation
00:18 schestowitz; still not dead (94) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer
00:18 TR Bot; Tom Lehrer - Wikipedia
00:18 MinceR; otherwise, i predict that they'll quickly pivot to something else to suck up to
00:18 schestowitz; 26 years from now: we'll go together
00:18 MinceR; and it will be like 1984
00:19 psydruid; I think new media could come into existence that aren't tied to the status quo
00:19 schestowitz; "wait for me!"
00:19 MinceR; except that they already don't admit to pushing MICROS~1
00:19 MinceR; they'll just gainsay themselves if necessary
00:19 TR News; Videos: Arch, Calcurse, and Leaving Twitter Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164230
00:19 MinceR; like crApple always does
00:19 TR Bot; Videos: Arch, Calcurse, and Leaving Twitter | Tux Machines
00:19 MinceR; crApple: integrated GPUs suck
00:19 activelow; microsoft FreeType is awful, extremely slow... just found out, with a terminal using anti-aliased truetype fonts... hitting 100% CPU when terminal is updated, which it is with cmatrix utility
00:19 schestowitz-TR; the US gov. wants the world's PCs infested with back doors
00:19 MinceR; crApple releases a PC with an integrated GPU
00:20 MinceR; crApple: integrated GPUs are great, buy one from us quickly!
00:20 schestowitz-TR; so if it does not keep BAILOUT OUT Microsoft it'll try to shoehorn some other piece of shit OS
00:20 bnchs; they push shit like x86 and ARM
00:20 activelow; in comparison, tested on ancient rxvt-2.7, cpu usage close to nothing
00:20 MinceR; crApple: x86 is shit, don't buy it
00:20 schestowitz-TR; *BAILING
00:20 MinceR; crApple switches from PPC to x86
00:20 bnchs; CPU architectures that are backdoored
00:20 MinceR; crApple: x86 is great, buy one from us quickly! also, PPC support's days are numbered.
00:20 schestowitz-TR; "Trust"Zone
00:21 schestowitz-TR; "Trust" is like "Truth" now
00:21 MinceR; truthiness
00:21 schestowitz-TR; the word is often use by those pursuing the opposite
00:21 schestowitz-TR; 9/11 "truthers", "truth social"...
00:21 bnchs; unlike x86 which was a transistion to a closed system
00:21 bnchs; ARM was, from the start, a closed system
00:21 bnchs; with locked bootloaders and unchangeable signing keys
00:22 activelow; most of the GUI desktop of GNU/Linux and *BSD depend on it... microsoft freetype
00:22 TR News; According to Wikipedia, AAA has a bad record of supporting measures that harm motorists and car owners. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/27/according-to-wikipedia-aaa-has-a-bad-record-of-supporting-measures-that-harm-motorists-and-car-owners/ Source: baronhk
00:22 TR Bot; According to Wikipedia, AAA has a bad record of supporting measures that harm motorists and car owners. BaronHK's Rants
00:23 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQdGQZul2HQ
00:23 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=hQdGQZul2HQ
00:23 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | Heres Why Old Cars are Better Than New Cars - Invidious
00:23 psydruid; Alcoholics Anonymous America
00:23 TR News; "We just released a new diaspora* version, which addresses two critical security issues in the Ruby on Rails framework, as well as one medium security issue in our code discovered by a security researcher." https://blog.diasporafoundation.org/72-diaspora-version-0-7-17-0-released-with-security-fixes
00:23 TR Bot; diaspora* version 0.7.17.0 released with security fixes! - The diaspora* Project
00:23 psydruid; maybe they all work at Microsoft and ICBM/Deadrat
00:25 activelow; btw. suckless.org components for X11 often depend on it too: the extremely slow microsoft freetype fonts
00:25 TR News; This is not an expansion but brain drain https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-job-opportunity-licensing-and-compliance-manager
00:25 TR Bot; FSF job opportunity: Licensing and compliance manager Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
00:26 psydruid; suckless should suck less, but instead it sucks more
00:28 activelow; anyway, i wiped the entire dependency graph of mapple freetype today; repairing rxvt-2.7 build was nasty, yet it's done... a 20year old terminal emulator it is
00:30 activelow; reverted system encoding default from utf8 back to ISO8859-15..., as expected some issues remaining with it, which requires re-compilation of the entire userspace for testing
00:30 activelow; i'll handle unicode with iconv and similar
00:34 activelow; by introducing anti-aliased mapple freetype fonts into gnu/bsd x11 terminal-emulators, their line output was slowed down 99%, in return opengl is advertised to accelerate this
00:35 activelow; i must admit, anti-aliased truetype fonts look slightly better, yet not much if rxvt is configured correctly
00:36 TR News; blunders
00:36 TR News; Microsoft is spearheading a media FUD attack on Linux at the moment, looking to distract from its own major security blunders? Why isn't "Linux" Foundation responding? Oh, sorry, I forget it's among Microsoft's bribe recipients http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
00:36 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
00:37 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164231
00:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:38 activelow; the mapple freetype still is a nasty attack against free software, and it wasn't easily removed
00:39 activelow; GTK2+X11 cannot be had without it, freetype; GTK2.6+GTKFB should do the trick, in case there was urgent need for any gtk2; another such piece of 20year old software
00:42 activelow; anyone interested in hacking netsurf-motif? at least this one could be had within X11 without any Mapple attached to it.
00:43 TR News; This has absolutely nothing to do with Linux and the author, newly-hired Dan Whiting, never even used it https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/dan-whiting-linux-foundation/Linux
00:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/
00:43 TR Bot; LFPH Completes the Proof-of-Concept of its GCCN Trust Registry Network - Linux Foundation
00:43 TR Bot; Links Xmas 2008: Linux 2.6.28 Released | Techrights
00:44 TR News; This has absolutely nothing to do with Linux and the author, newly-hired Dan Whiting, never even used it https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/dan-whiting-linux-foundation/
00:44 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfph-completes-the-proof-of-concept-of-its-gccn-trust-registry-network/
00:44 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Has a New Lead Editor. Like Jim Zemlin, He Doesnt Use Linux. Hes in Love with iPad. | Techrights
00:45 TR News; Tomorrow I'll do a long video about the so-called 'Linux' Foundation http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
00:45 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
00:45 TR News; 6 Best Alternative Router Firmware that are Open Source Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164232
00:45 TR Bot; 6 Best Alternative Router Firmware that are Open Source | Tux Machines
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00:47 TR News; "After two long years of COVID hiatus, local Debian events in Montreal are back! Last Sunday, nine of us met at Koumbit to work on Debian (and other stuff!), chat and socialise." https://veronneau.org/montreals-debian-stuff-april-2022.html
00:47 TR Bot; Louis-Philippe Vronneau - Montreal's Debian & Stuff - April 2022
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00:50 TR News; SocketCAN x Kubernetes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164233
00:50 TR Bot; SocketCAN x Kubernetes | Tux Machines
00:50 DaemonFC; MinceR, It was funny to watch Apple go from saying integrated graphics were puny and that's why the Mac included a discrete graphics card, and then when they shipped with some shitty Intel graphics that could barely run a desktop compositor, they said how great that was. Efficient even.
00:50 TR News; Imagine some people gullible enough to think the Free software community is in fact attacked by the victims of corporations waging the attacks
00:51 DaemonFC; Oh good. The state issued my car title.
00:51 DaemonFC; I was beginning to wonder.
00:51 DaemonFC; They got the Impala's issued in 10 days.
00:51 DaemonFC; They're getting slower.
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00:52 DaemonFC; Must be all those tax hikes. Can't afford to run anything at this rate.
00:52 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
00:52 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: now billgates has something top envy about you
00:52 schestowitz-TR; *to
00:52 schestowitz-TR; you ride a 14 year olkd
00:52 DaemonFC; LOL
00:52 DaemonFC; It's the first car I've had in a while that wouldn't be old enough to drive itself.
00:53 schestowitz-TR; iirc, some southern us states let you drive at 15 with a parent
00:53 DaemonFC; It's a great car. I'm having some rust removed next week though. Some cosmetic touch ups. Nothing outrageous.
00:53 DaemonFC; The undercarriage looks find.
00:53 DaemonFC; *fine*
00:53 DaemonFC; I think the car will last a while.
00:53 DaemonFC; It drives like a new car.
00:54 DaemonFC; I'll be in it for less than had I bought some cheap little KIA that breaks right away and burns oil after the second oil change.
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00:54 DaemonFC; So it's a lot better even if it is 14 years old.
00:55 DaemonFC; You get a KIA and by the time it's 5 years old almost everything's broken and the engine is burning a quart of oil every thousand miles.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 495.53
00:59 TR News; Links 29/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
00:59 TR Bot; Links 29/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights
01:00 schestowitz-TR; "kia" is the sound the car makes
01:00 schestowitz-TR; when it vomit
01:00 schestowitz-TR; *vomits
01:00 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164234
01:00 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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01:09 activelow; "Patent holders who contribute to standards published by a major standards body such as ISO are required to disclose the scope of their patents, but TrueType was not such a standard."
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01:10 activelow; another one: "TrueType systems include a virtual machine that executes programs inside the font"
01:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Mom was shocked to find out that citric acid can be used to descale a dishwasher.
01:12 bnchs; freetype couldn't implement any of the font patents crap
01:12 DaemonFC; I said, "Yeah, what do you think was used to de-sludge my radiator and heater core in the Buick?".
01:12 activelow; don't doubt, some processing is necessary when a vector format is transformed into a bitmap... however i would want to hear a very good argument, why such isn't pre-processed, and instead requires some virtual machine (slow)
01:12 DaemonFC; The old coolant had been in the car so long the additives were dropping out of it.
01:12 activelow; bnchs: freetype implementing this is problematic too, for technical reasons
01:12 DaemonFC; Not great, but women don't know anything about cars.
01:13 DaemonFC; They usually just buy them and drive them until they're so neglected that they don't want to deal with something strange it's doing now, and buy another one.
01:14 DaemonFC; I know what scared the last owner into dumping this one and the funny part was that it wasn't even THAT expensive to fix considering.
01:14 DaemonFC; One of the wheel bearings was pulsing the ABS system because it wasn't spinning right.
01:14 DaemonFC; Didn't even cost $200 to fix that.
01:15 DaemonFC; They omitted the labor for the bearing hubs because I was getting the brakes overhauled anyway.
01:15 DaemonFC; So they had so much of the system dismantled anyway for the brakes that I told them to just go ahead and put new wheel bearing hubs on the front end.
01:16 DaemonFC; So for not too much more than the brake job, she could have had them replace the offending bearing hub, or even both of them.
01:17 DaemonFC; Women do dumb shit with cars, especially unloading them for a low price because something that sounds worse than it is starts happening.
01:17 psydruid; Fonts were designed and implemented to be malicious?
01:17 activelow; the TrueType system was/is malicious
01:17 psydruid; What in modern computers isn't malicious?
01:19 activelow; anyway, i'll keep bitmap fonts; with mapple freetype fully wiped and with it GTK2/3 are gone (except for some fringe case)
01:19 DaemonFC; When bearing hubs go out, they can make some awful noises, but you can get a Moog bearing hub that's at least as good as OE for not a terrible amount of money.
01:20 DaemonFC; When I finally heard the bearing hub on the driver front screeching at me, I knew where the ABS problem was coming from.
01:20 activelow; don't know, why GTK2/3 couldn't use X11 PCF fonts, without any mapple fontconfig/freetype involved
01:21 DaemonFC; Unfortunately, the Buick is such a heavy car, that you have to use better brake pads and rotors than you can get away with on an Impala.
01:21 DaemonFC; So I upgraded from those godawful semi-metallic pads "Diane" put on there and replaced them with ceramic.
01:22 activelow; the equation with mapple freetype is this: either it is accepted (with any legal and technical issue involved), and if not entire gtk/qt are gone forever
01:22 DaemonFC; I also got rid of the "Die Hard" battery from god knows when and upgraded to a Duracell Platinum AGM, and got a tune up, and new belt tensioner and serpentine belt. And flushed the coolant out real good and had the transmission serviced.
01:23 DaemonFC; I know how old cars start giving problems, and believe me, you don't want to break down because someone never replaced a 14 year old belt.
01:23 psydruid; are these software patents valid in the EU as well or are they strictly a US thing?
01:23 activelow; the patents weren't valid because IBM Mapple violated the ISO standardization criteria
01:24 activelow; in fact, it was _fraud_, to advertise TrueType as _standard_, and at the same time not revealing the patent portfolio held against such standard
01:25 activelow; brings me back to the reasoning, why GPL without a guarding standard is dangerous and potentially harmful to "free software"
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01:47 MinceR; 28 015221 < schestowitz-TR> you ride a 14 year olkd
01:47 MinceR; that's nothing, i ride a 2 year old
01:47 MinceR; (closer to 3, but whatever)
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01:56 activelow; patents or none, vector-fonts, aren't always the best choice, bitmapped fonts have advantages too, such as: easier to implement, and much faster while their disadvantages are almost absent when tailored for the specific use-case
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 29.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 344.20
02:02 activelow; anyway, already curious, once i got time, if the ancient rxvt-2.7 graphics support can be utilized, to rasterize any vectors (regis, sixel) directly into virtual terminal, together with support from gnuplot, TeX
02:03 activelow; another nice to have, for example: less <file.pdf> outputs plain text and rasterized graphics from illustrations directly into virtual terminal, and too if such virtual terminal output can be forwared 1:1 into /dev/lp0 matrix plotter
02:03 activelow; which is, this is how it should have been
02:03 bnchs; activelow, uhhh that requires less to have a PDF parser
02:04 activelow; the gentoo lesser already does output plaintext from pdf, nice. yet cannot process illustrations/images into virtual terminal sixels yet
02:12 activelow; less <doc.dvi> or even better, less <doc.tex> directly rendered into virtual terminal plaintext and sixels (for formulas and illustrations)
02:13 activelow; and imagine this, if a converter from sixel(DEC)-to-epson was available, what such a *nix terminal could do
02:13 activelow; it is an _universal_ IDE then
02:15 MinceR; it always was a universal IDE
02:16 MinceR; "Unix was originally meant to be a convenient platform for programmers developing software to be run on it and on other systems, rather than for non-programmers." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
02:16 TR Bot; Unix - Wikipedia
02:17 activelow; nowadays, without vector graphics rasterization (directly) into virtual terminal, not to mention printing (again some Mapple crap) instead of piping vt output directly into /dev/lp0
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02:34 bnchs; so apparently chromeos can run steam games
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-270422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-270422.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
02:37 activelow; here is the difference, rasterization into virtual terminal, is suitable for for unix networking with teletype terminal (tty), rasterization direct into framebuffer isn't
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
02:39 activelow; and any content outside tty context is missing certain features; it is conceptually different, rarely understood, why that is, and why it is causing me headache and bad mood for years
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
02:42 activelow; btw. i intend to operate my tty at 120 characters width, epson can do it with the right fonts chosen, and of cause any vt can set it too: export COLS=120 then
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-27.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-27.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:42 activelow; dots per column/row/character should be too difficult, to estimate the final dimension for any rasterized output
02:42 activelow; *shouldn't
02:43 activelow; and with fanfeed paper, the exact amount of rows can be configured, for the line printer
02:44 activelow; not sure yet, why adobe postscript is necessary, the 9pin matrix printers didn't require any
02:46 activelow; i'll keep postscript for a little while longer, given the fact, pdf and related are common; instead of shell script and plaintext together with sixel support
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03:06 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 336436 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40348 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 18 days ago
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03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
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03:10 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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06:11 matey; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/ Microsoft staff now feeds the media with anti-Linux talking points
06:11 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
06:11 matey; one thing they have succeded in, obviously, is getting more people (regardless of which side of the debate theyre on) to talk about "linux" as if its more than just a kernel
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06:12 matey; these days i hear more about linux than i do about gnu, and this from people who are fighting "anti-linux campaigns"
06:12 matey; this seems like a win-win move for microsoft; heads they win, tails gnu loses.
06:13 matey; of course my prognosis for gnu and linux is terrible, but its based on facts people dont like to talk about
06:13 matey; it has nothing to do with the patent nonsense microsoft talks about-- as if "microsoft" and "security" can be used in the same sentence without laughter
06:14 matey; meanwhile theyve put their own people in charge of the linux foundation, sheer hypocrisy and two-facedness but we already said "microsoft" so those are givens
06:15 matey; still they have even their opponents boosting the brands they prefer over others
06:15 matey; which should surprise me, not that it does
06:16 matey; i mean a year or two ago matt lee was saying we should call it "linux" after hiring stephen fry to call it "gnu"
06:17 matey; now microsoft is spreading fud about "linux" and all you hear is "linux linux linux"
06:17 matey; are we taking matt lees advice now?
06:18 matey; i guess bnchs knows better, thats good
06:18 matey; bnchs noted that in GNU/Linux, you would have to boot to another OS to get root.
06:25 matey; my prognosis is that gnu will die in the next few years. thats not a happy thing
06:25 matey; but if we call it "linux" then we simply erase it from history as well
06:26 matey; im not the least in favour of that
06:26 matey; there was never a linux operating system
06:26 matey; there was android, there was gnu
06:26 matey; i know alpine is proud (seems so) to not use gnu userland
06:27 matey; does it also use llvm? i dont know, i pay it very little attention because it still uses a doomed kernel
06:28 matey; however lets give alpine credit where due. suppose tomorrow all the governments of the world, the native peoples of every land, and lets even throw in aliens and jesus for fun, got together and banned linux from use
06:28 matey; i figure alpine would just use a different kernel then. granted it might take a while. but its a pretty determined project.
06:29 matey; maybe im giving it too much credit, but giving it too little isnt on my to-do list.
06:29 matey; id rather just say linux itself is a doomed kernel
06:29 matey; the fsf on the other hand, look what they do
06:30 matey; theyve become a linux kernel dick sucking contest
06:30 matey; first debian decided other kernels didnt matter, then the fsf seemed to have as well
06:31 matey; gone are the days of "there is no other operating system but gnu (and that was said humourously) and linux is ONE OF its kernels"
06:31 matey; not if you read the fsf website
06:31 matey; linux isnt even a fucking free kernel. i mean
06:32 matey; every time richard stallman says "gnu slash linux" he isnt following the fsdg
06:32 matey; of course hes not a distro so thats fine
06:32 matey; but i mean, linux-libre is a (relatively) free kernel, its free of blobs
06:32 matey; "linux" is a non-free kernel, actually.
06:33 matey; why he ever even talks about "linux" when its non-free, go figure. the fsf shouldnt promote linux, only linux-libre of course
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06:33 matey; the openbsd kernel is more free than "linux", no non-free driverse
06:34 matey; but they get shunned while "linux" gets a pass
06:34 matey; its absolutely a double standard
06:34 matey; i doubt VERY MUCH it has anything to do with being paid off-- but
06:34 matey; just the fact that its the sort of thing you get as a result of paying people off makes it sad
06:34 matey; liike who paid them off to display this double standard
06:35 matey; no one? so theyre incredibly lacking in sheer consistency and intellectual honesty FREE OF CHARGE? thats such a waste
06:35 matey; they should have at least set a price on that
06:36 matey; as long as theyre going to make such ridiculous self-defeating compromises
06:37 matey; they should at least take some money for it and put it towards i dont know... whatevers left of free software or something
06:37 matey; alternatively they could be more honest. how much would that cost?
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06:46 matey; here is my favourite one though...
06:46 matey; linux-libre violates the fsdg.
06:47 matey; if you make a fully-free version of debian, and you want the fsf to promote it, you have to meet the fsdg (not the dfsg which came first, this is the fsf criteria, the fsdg, not confusing at all) and the fsdg doesnt let you name your os after something non-free
06:48 matey; so you cant call it debian-libre (i mean this is apart from the fact that it would violate a trademark most likely held by spi, but i dont know who the holder is)
06:48 matey; they might/might not care about the trademark though
06:48 matey; if it was a spin, i dont know what the policy is
06:49 matey; anyway with puppy linux, barry kauler (trademark holder) wouldnt go after you for "puppy-libre"
06:49 matey; but youd have to change the name for the fsf to promote it
06:49 matey; they wont promote puppy-libre
06:49 matey; you have to change the name of the os. but not the kernel!
06:49 matey; puppy-libre refers to a non-free os, no good
06:50 matey; linux-libre refers to a non-free kernel-- totally okay
06:50 matey; so puppy-libre? no. but libredog gnu/linux or libredog gnu/linux-libre? green light!
06:51 matey; the linux kernel is VERY privileged here, being the ONLY non-free kernel you can refer to in the name of your fsdg-approved distro.
06:51 matey; and indeed the only non-free software you can refer to (directly) in the name of your fsdg-approved distro
06:52 matey; why does linux, a non-free kernel, enjoy such privilege?
06:52 matey; because the fsf has allowed linux to make gnu its bitch
06:52 matey; they didnt even realise they were doing it
06:53 matey; im not just talking about the special pleading in the naming scheme, thats just the most glaring example ive found recently (this week)
06:53 matey; i mean everything they do bows to the linux kernel
06:54 matey; might as well be the fs/lf free software slash linux foundation
06:54 matey; oh i guess the linux foundation would stop that with their trademark
06:55 matey; another funny thing, and this makes me laugh
06:55 matey; nah, fuck it, ill save that one
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08:33 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, April 27, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
08:33 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
08:33 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
08:33 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
08:33 TR News; Completely Remove Snap from Ubuntu Linux [Tutorial] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164235
08:33 TR Bot; Completely Remove Snap from Ubuntu Linux [Tutorial] | Tux Machines
08:34 TR News; Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
08:34 TR Bot; Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights
08:46 TR News; Smap: Alternate Network Scanner of Nmap by shodan.io [Examples] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164236
08:46 TR Bot; Smap: Alternate Network Scanner of Nmap by shodan.io [Examples] | Tux Machines
08:48 TR News; "I approached copying my PGP key to paper in short bursts: each day I copied just three lines, and that took me from 10 to 15 minutes" http://ariis.it/static/articles/handwritten-pgp-key/page.html |
08:48 TR Bot; fa - backup your PGP key with pencil and paper
08:48 TR News; "I wanted to write about DNS for three reasons" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/26/new-zine--how-dns-works-/ | Source: Julia Evans
08:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/26/new-zine--how-dns-works-/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/04/26/new-zine--how-dns-works-/
08:48 TR Bot; New zine: How DNS Works!
08:48 TR News; "As it was recently the 40th Anniversary of the ZX Spectrum 48k, the first computer I had, and the reason I got into programming in the first place" https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html | Source: Steve Kemp
08:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: steve.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html
08:48 TR Bot; Porting a game from CP/M to the ZX Spectrum 48k
08:49 TR News; Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
08:52 TR News; "A good example of open source is Linux, which became the largest open-source software project in the world.A good example of open source is Linux, which became the largest open-source software project in the world." https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector | Source: Ubuntu
08:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector
08:52 TR Bot; source technology in logistics sector | Ubuntu
08:53 TR News; "If you install Ubuntu 22.04's server edition onto a server that has one or more network ports that you aren't using" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot | Source: uni Toronto
08:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot
08:53 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/Ubuntu2204SlowServerBoot
08:53 TR News; "Finally, Pop! started putting out their own Linux kernels, which is decidedly a good thing. But their upgrade cycle is very odd and makes very little sense to me." https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/4/pop-goes-the-distro-and-fiber-internet-for-the-win | Source: Jay Little
08:53 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Pop! Goes the Distro And Fiber Internet For The Win
08:54 TR News; "Up until now, weve recommended users stick with the 4GB and 8GB versions of the Raspberry Pi 4 when running Ubuntu Desktop." https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-for-raspberry-pi-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu
08:54 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-for-raspberry-pi-ubuntu-22-04-lts https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-for-raspberry-pi-ubuntu-22-04-lts
08:54 TR Bot; new for Raspberry Pi with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu
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08:55 TR News; "Programming the system was fairly straightforward. Whenever a switch/button is active" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/ | Source: Arduino
08:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/
08:55 TR Bot; This realistic control panel takes the flight simulator experience to new heights | Arduino Blog
08:55 TR News; "Why multiple Pis? Well, a couple of reasons. First of all, I wanted some diversity in my radio receivers" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/04/27/thermo/ | Source: Rachel
08:55 TR Bot; My Raspberry Pi-based temperature tracking project
08:56 TR News; "Today we release Krita 5.0.6. This is a bug fix release with two crash fixes" https://krita.org/en/item/krita-5-0-6-released/ | Source: Krita
08:56 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: krita.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://krita.org/en/item/krita-5-0-6-released/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://krita.org/en/item/krita-5-0-6-released/
08:56 TR Bot; Krita 5.0.6 Released | Krita
08:57 TR News; "Today, we release the first stable version of the 0.4.7.x series fixing several major bugfixes, several major features and, finally after years of work, congestion control." https://forum.torproject.net/t/stable-release-0-4-7-7/3108 |
08:57 TR Bot; Stable release 0.4.7.7 - Tor Release Announcement - Tor Project Forum
08:57 TR News; "30,000 New Users Signed Up for Mastodon" https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7npd7/30000-new-users-signed-up-for-mastodon-after-elon-musk-bought-twitter | Source: Vice
08:57 TR Bot; 30,000 New Users Signed Up for Mastodon After Elon Musk Bought Twitter
08:58 TR News; "Of all the grand ideas that Elon Musk has for Twitter, the one that hes pitched most fervently is making the platforms algorithms open source" https://thenextweb.com/news/what-are-elon-musk-plans-to-open-source-twitter-algorithms | Source: The Next Web
08:58 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thenextweb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenextweb.com/news/what-are-elon-musk-plans-to-open-source-twitter-algorithms https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thenextweb.com/news/what-are-elon-musk-plans-to-open-source-twitter-algorithms
08:58 TR Bot; Open-sourcing Twitter's algorithms is more complex than Musk implies
08:58 TR News; Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
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08:59 TR News; "At Browserling, we're huge fans of single file self-contained applications." https://catonmat.net/single-file-applications | Source: Peteris Krumins
08:59 TR Bot; Single File Applications
08:59 TR News; "As soon as I finished writing up the previous blog post, I was made aware of the announcement of a new programming language named Hare." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220427.html | Source: Brian Callahan
08:59 TR Bot; Brian Robert Callahan
08:59 TR News; "During my winternship, I used the findings from recent Go audits to make several improvements to go-fuzz, a coverage-based fuzzer for projects written in Go" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/04/26/improving-the-state-of-go-fuzz/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
08:59 TR Bot; Improving the state of go-fuzz | Trail of Bits Blog
09:00 TR News; "For this work, we approach the problem from another perspective. A list of real-world vulnerabilities already exists: the CVEs" https://blog.quarkslab.com/commit-level-vulnerability-dataset.html | Source: Quarkslab
09:00 TR Bot; Commit Level Vulnerability Dataset
09:00 TR News; "One solution is to use Docker. The containerization tool runs applications in an isolated system and manages dependencies." https://earthly.dev/blog/python-docker/ | Source: Earthly
09:00 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: earthly.dev | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://earthly.dev/blog/python-docker/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://earthly.dev/blog/python-docker/
09:00 TR Bot; Running Python on Docker - Earthly Blog
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09:06 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D572.jpg
09:06 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D215.jpg
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09:07 TR News; "For sure is always a place on Gopher, which just been born. Look at the shinny new BBC news text proxy" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
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09:08 TR News; what I want in a graphical environment gemini://bvnf.space/blog/010_want.gmi
09:09 TR News; "Zemmour (far-right) instantly called to vote for Le Pen, after mocking the idiots on the left for the immediacy of their call to vote for Macron." gemini://dece.space/notes/20220427-elections-round-2.gmi
09:10 TR News; "If you are writing about a new idea, mechanic, or technology, start with it" https://idiomdrottning.org/reverse-your-articles | Source: Idiomdrottning
09:10 TR Bot; Reverse your articles
09:10 TR News; "Hey, back in 2016 I decided to get rid of trackers on my website, and Gravatar was one of them for the comment section" https://www.davidrevoy.com/article591/cat-bird-fenestar-abstract-avatar-generators | Source: David Revoy
09:10 TR Bot; My Avatar Generators: Cats, Birds, Fenestars and Abstracts - David Revoy
09:10 TR News; "Overall, I enjoy using Sony's current top-end APS-C model for my video work and occasional photography." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/few-things-i-hate-about-my-sony-a6600 | Source: Jeff Geerling
09:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/few-things-i-hate-about-my-sony-a6600 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/few-things-i-hate-about-my-sony-a6600
09:10 TR Bot; A few of the things I hate about my Sony a6600 | Jeff Geerling
09:11 TR News; Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/fsf-hiring-2/
09:11 TR Bot; Links 28/04/2022: New Official Release of IPFire, FSF Hiring | Techrights
09:15 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/irc-log-270422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/irc-log-270422/
09:15 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 | Techrights
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09:25 TR News; "The European Union is set to launch a drive to translate more scholarly research into local languages using artificial intelligence technology." https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/french-push-ai-auto-translation-european-research | Source: Times Higher Education
09:25 TR Bot; French want AI translation of European research | Times Higher Education (THE)
09:25 TR News; Microsoft tries to distract from this https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/nine-microsoft-vulnerabilities-in-top-15-exploited-routinely-in-2021.html | Source: IT Wire
09:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/nine-microsoft-vulnerabilities-in-top-15-exploited-routinely-in-2021.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/nine-microsoft-vulnerabilities-in-top-15-exploited-routinely-in-2021.html
09:25 TR Bot; - Nine Microsoft vulnerabilities in top 15 exploited routinely in 2021
09:25 TR News; "Microsoft has issued a long write-up about flaws that could lead to escalation of privilege on Linux systems, which it has collectively called Nimbuspwn" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/microsoft-post-on-linux-vulnerability-omits-essential-detail.html | Source: IT Wire
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09:25 TR Bot; - Microsoft post on Linux vulnerability omits essential detail
09:26 TR News; Rumours about the criminals (Microsoft) https://variety.com/vip/why-private-equity-not-microsoft-is-likely-circling-ubisoft-1235242030/ | Source: Variety
09:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/vip/why-private-equity-not-microsoft-is-likely-circling-ubisoft-1235242030/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://variety.com/vip/why-private-equity-not-microsoft-is-likely-circling-ubisoft-1235242030/
09:26 TR Bot; Private Equity, Not Microsoft, Is Likely Circling Ubisoft - Variety
09:26 TR News; "Several private equity firms including Blackstone Inc. and KKR & Co. have been studying the French business, according to the people, who asked not to be identified" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-22/assassin-s-creed-publisher-ubisoft-said-to-draw-buyout-interest | Source: Bloomberg
09:26 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
09:26 TR News; "All of this has led to a long term stock slide down from a high of $23 a share in 2018 to now just $9 today." https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/04/26/if-ubisoft-is-selling-could-microsoft-or-sony-be-buying/ | Source: Forbes
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09:26 TR Bot; If Ubisoft Is Selling, Could Microsoft Or Sony Be Buying?
09:26 TR News; "It's unknown how a potential acquisition of Ubisoft may affect its games, if at all" https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-reportedly-being-targeted-for-acquisition | Source: IGN
09:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ign.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-reportedly-being-targeted-for-acquisition https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-reportedly-being-targeted-for-acquisition
09:26 TR Bot; Reportedly Being Targeted for Acquisition - IGN
09:27 TR News; "Alexa has always had aspirations to be a type of digital butler, and today, its getting closer to that goal" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/27/23044873/amazon-alexa-person-package-detection-video-doorbells-security-cameras | Source: The Verge
09:27 TR Bot; Amazons Alexa can announce when theres a person or package at your Ring or Nest camera - The Verge
09:27 TR News; "The Belgian bill is a reaction to the Constitutional Courts annulment of the countrys indiscriminate data retention law." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/belgium-what-geographically-targeted-data-retention-would-really-mean/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
09:27 TR Bot; Belgium: What geographically targeted data retention would really mean Patrick Breyer
09:29 TR News; "A man was arrested in Denmark on Wednesday on suspicion of violating anti-terrorism laws by allegedly promoting the Islamic State group on social control media" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/denmark-arrests-man-promotion-social-media-84340283 | Source: ABC
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09:29 TR Bot; Denmark arrests man over promotion of IS on social media - ABC News
09:39 TR News; "Vampire appliances are appliances which continue to suck energy even they are turned off, because they enter a standby mode rather than fully powering down." https://www.wise-geek.com/what-are-vampire-appliances.htm |
09:39 TR Bot; What are Vampire Appliances? (with pictures)
09:39 TR News; "Although estimates vary, vampire energy consumption can account for as much as 40 percent of a buildings energy use and associated monthly electricity bill." https://www.wired.com/story/vampire-energy-climate-environment-earth-day/ | Source: Wired
09:39 TR Bot; Energy' Is Sucking the Life Out of Our Planet | WIRED
09:39 TR News; "All of which involve the trust buying ever-increasing amounts of BTC, pumping the "price" ever higher, attracting ever more speculators to these trades" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/04/grayscale-bitcoin-trust.html | Source: David Rosenthal
09:39 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Grayscale Bitcoin Trust
09:42 TR News; Nature: "Python scripts used for the spatial analyses are permanently available" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04664-7 | Source: Nature
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09:42 TR Bot; global reptile assessment highlights shared conservation needs of tetrapods | Nature
09:43 TR News; Understanding the Power of Propaganda (...and Big Techs Execution of it) https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/propaganda:ab RobBraxmanTech also addresses youtube
09:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/propaganda:ab https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/propaganda:ab
09:43 TR Bot; Understanding the Power of Propaganda (...and Big Tech's Execution of it)
09:44 TR News; Mastodon coverage in The Fail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10759621/Thousands-disgruntled-Twitter-users-flocking-rival-social-network-Mastodon.html
09:44 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: dailymail.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10759621/Thousands-disgruntled-Twitter-users-flocking-rival-social-network-Mastodon.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10759621/Thousands-disgruntled-Twitter-users-flocking-rival-social-network-Mastodon.html
09:44 TR Bot; Thousands of disgruntled Twitter users are flocking to rival social network 'Mastodon' | Daily Mail Online
09:45 TR News; Gulag Accused of 'Creepy' Speech Policing - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/26/0944258 Source: soylentnews
09:45 TR Bot; Google Accused of 'Creepy' Speech Policing - SoylentNews
10:04 TR News; "Its a combination that makes him one of the most significant figures in the history of technology, business and media" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musks-twitter-takeover-gives-new-type-power-rcna26211 | Source: NBC
10:04 TR Bot; Elon Musks Twitter takeover gives him a new type of power
10:05 TR News; "Can Elon Musk break Twitter? I hope so" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter.html | Source: New York Times
10:05 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter.html
10:05 TR Bot; Opinion | Elon Musk Got Twitter Because He Gets Twitter - The New York Times
10:05 TR News; "Platinum Members include Microsoft, Oracle, and Facebook (now Meta)" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and | Source: Bryan Lunduke
10:05 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and
10:05 TR Bot; 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry
10:05 TR News; "I don't believe that financial gain is Musk's goal" https://matt-rickard.com/improving-twitter/ | Source: Matt Rickard
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10:05 TR Bot; Improving Twitter
10:06 TR News; "Even a seemingly insignificant error rate of the censorship algorithms of, for example, 0.1% leads to the unjustified censorship" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/partial-success-against-internet-censorship-top-eu-court-severely-restricts-upload-filters/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
10:06 TR Bot; Partial success against Internet censorship: Top EU Court severely restricts upload filters Patrick Breyer
10:09 TR News; "This would include adults who took children abroad to carry out the marriage" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61228240 | Source: BBC
10:09 TR Bot; New law raises minimum marriage age to 18 in England and Wales - BBC News
10:09 TR News; "A separate forced marriage law, introduced in 2014, made it a criminal offence punishable by up to seven years in prison to force someone of any age to marry" https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/law/956554/minimum-marriage-age-england-and-wales |
10:09 TR Bot; Why the minimum marriage age is being raised in England and Wales | The Week UK
10:10 TR News; "In a 90-page motion to vacate the conviction, prosecutors said what appears to be a chance coincidence that the defendant, Thomas Raynard James" https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/judge-vacates-life-sentence-wrongfully-convicted-man-84348384 | Source: ABC
10:10 TR Bot; Judge vacates life sentence of wrongfully convicted man - ABC News
10:11 TR News; "When KrebsOnSecurity recently explored how cybercriminals were using hacked email accounts at police departments worldwide to obtain warrantless Emergency Data Requests (EDRs)" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/fighting-fake-edrs-with-credit-ratings-for-police/ | Source: Krebs On Security
10:11 TR Bot; Fighting Fake EDRs With Credit Ratings for Police Krebs on Security
10:15 TR News; "Electric vehicles are slowly but surely snatching market share from their combustion-engined forbearers." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/the-state-of-play-in-solid-state-batteries/ | Source: Hackaday
10:15 TR Bot; State Of Play In Solid State Batteries | Hackaday
10:16 TR News; "The world's leading anti-piracy coalition ACE continues to expand with beIN as its newest member." https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-coalition-ace-gets-bigger-stronger-and-more-effective-220427/ | Source: Torrent Freak
↺ https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-coalition-ace-gets-bigger-stronger-and-more-effective-220427/
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10:16 TR Bot; Coalition ACE Gets Bigger, Stronger and More Effective * TorrentFreak
10:16 TR News; "Nintendo's highly anticipated 'Mario Movie' will be delayed until spring 2023, so in the meantime, fans are posting rumors and speculation on social media." https://torrentfreak.com/nintendos-mario-movie-leaks-dmca-used-to-suppress-spoiler-discussion-220427/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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10:16 TR Bot; 'Mario Movie' Leaks: DMCA Used To Suppress Spoiler Discussion * TorrentFreak
10:16 TR News; "CNC Engraver" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/no-laser-cnc-engraver-is-something-new-under-the-sun/ | Source: Hackaday
10:16 TR Bot; CNC Engraver Is Something New Under The Sun | Hackaday
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10:57 TR News; "Its very early days for CAD Sketcher, a new parametric CAD add-on for Blender by [hlorus], but it looks very promising" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/cad-sketcher-its-parametric-cad-for-blender/ | Source: Hackaday
10:57 TR Bot; Sketcher, Its Parametric CAD For Blender | Hackaday
10:59 TR News; Water https://therevelator.org/slow-solutions-gies/ | Source: The Revelator
10:59 TR Bot; Why We Need Slow Solutions to Solve Our Water Problems The Revelator
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 248.95
11:05 tpmd; Government agencies cutting costs where it hurts, or the consequences of using cheapest closed source software: bbcnewsd73hkzno2ini43t4gblxvycyac5aw4gnv7t2rccijh7745uqd.onion/programmes/m0016t20
11:05 tpmd; entertaining, if it weren't so tragic
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11:09 DaemonFC; I just got a phishing email that says it's from Microsoft about unusual sign in activity.
11:09 DaemonFC; They say that someone logged into my account using the "chrom" browser.
11:21 tpmd; it could be a clever filter to prevent wasting resources on the wrong (knowledgeable, or just not drunk enough) targets.
11:26 TR News; "As the world becomes more and more digital, there are still a few holdouts from the analog world weve left behind." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/27/digital-to-analog-in-the-darkroom/ | Source: Hackaday
11:26 TR Bot; To Analog In The Darkroom | Hackaday
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11:45 TR News; "Metaverse" is pure BS. Facebook is collapsing and manipulating the media into hyping up fantasy, vapourware. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/27/can-you-truly-own-anything-in-the-metaverse/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/27/can-you-truly-own-anything-in-the-metaverse/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/27/can-you-truly-own-anything-in-the-metaverse/
11:45 TR Bot; You Truly Own Anything in the Metaverse? - CounterPunch.org
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11:47 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/toyota-keeps-donating-to-republicans-who-supported-the-coup-attempt/
11:47 TR Bot; Toyota keeps donating to Republicans who supported the coup attempt. BaronHK's Rants
11:47 TR News; Canvas https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/canvas-and-other-online-learning-platforms-arent-perfect-just-ask-students | Source: EFF
11:47 TR Bot; Canvas and other Online Learning Platforms Aren't PerfectJust Ask Students | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:48 TR News; "counterspeech" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/amidst-invasion-ukraine-platforms-continue-erase-critical-war-crimes-documentation | Source: EFF
11:48 TR Bot; Amidst Invasion of Ukraine, Platforms Continue to Erase Critical War Crimes Documentation | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:49 TR News; "Field drug tests are awful. Theyre insanely unreliable." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/field-drug-test-turns-diesel-to-meth-takes-away-six-weeks-of-the-truck-drivers-freedom/ | Source: Techdirt
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11:49 TR Bot; Drug Test Turns Diesel To Meth, Takes Away Six Weeks Of The Truck Drivers Freedom | Techdirt
11:49 TR News; "Major ISPs fought hard to remove this provision, mostly because theyve engaged in discrimination based on income status for many years." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/what-low-income-people-will-lose-deadlocked-fcc | Source: EFF
11:49 TR Bot; What Low-Income People Will Lose with a Deadlocked FCC | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:49 TR News; Sega https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/sega-does-a-nintendo-company-pulls-older-sonic-games-ahead-of-anthology-release/ | Source: Techdirt
11:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/sega-does-a-nintendo-company-pulls-older-sonic-games-ahead-of-anthology-release/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/sega-does-a-nintendo-company-pulls-older-sonic-games-ahead-of-anthology-release/
11:49 TR Bot; Does A Nintendo: Company Pulls Older Sonic Games Ahead Of Anthology Release | Techdirt
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11:51 TR News; Stop bailing out oligarchs by STEALING from citizens https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/27/sanders-pushes-biden-nix-amazons-federal-contracts-over-illegal-anti-union-activity | Source: Common Dreams
11:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/27/sanders-pushes-biden-nix-amazons-federal-contracts-over-illegal-anti-union-activity https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/27/sanders-pushes-biden-nix-amazons-federal-contracts-over-illegal-anti-union-activity
11:51 TR Bot; Sanders Pushes Biden to Nix Amazon's Federal Contracts Over 'Illegal Anti-Union Activity'
11:54 DaemonFC; "If Toyota manages to help topple the legitimate American government, they'll also manage to ruin one of the most important markets in the world for their product. So much for the Japanese being good at playing the long game."
11:55 TR News; Don't let corporations conflate social cohesion with commercial impunity
11:56 TR News; DeSantis https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/27/240930/ | Source: Counter Punch
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11:56 TR Bot; DeSantis and the Charade of Free Speech in America - CounterPunch.org
12:01 TR News; "If you listened to Verizon fifth-generation wireless (5G) marketing at any time during the last three years" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/verizon-loses-wireless-subscribers-despite-three-years-of-5g-hype/ | Source: Techdirt
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12:01 TR Bot; Loses Wireless Subscribers Despite Three Years Of 5G Hype | Techdirt
12:05 DaemonFC; MinceR, I responded to my dad on Facebook:
12:05 DaemonFC; "Hi again, dad. What did you ever change listening to that (dead) idiot Limbaugh. You say God forgives all who get on their knees and beg forgiveness. Well, it's a good place for you to start. While you're confessing all of your wrongs, remember to throw in hating people for not looking like you do. I'm pretty sure that's a big one. Also, the entire garage full of pornography. Let's see. What else?"
12:05 TR News; Social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/more-lawsuits-are-being-filed-by-parents-hoping-to-hold-social-media-platforms-responsible-for-the-deaths-of-their-children/ | Source: Techdirt
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12:05 TR Bot; Lawsuits Are Being Filed By Parents Hoping To Hold Social Media Platforms Responsible For The Deaths Of Their Children | Techdirt
12:08 TR News; Fifth Amendment https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/nj-appeals-court-lower-court-mixed-up-4th-and-5th-amendment-and-either-way-phone-passcodes-can-be-compelled/ | Source: Techdirt
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12:08 TR Bot; Appeals Court: Lower Court Mixed Up 4th And 5th Amendment And Either Way, Phone Passcodes Can Be Compelled | Techdirt
12:08 DaemonFC; "They canned Limbaugh's voice and play clips of him bitching about things from beyond the grave, which is sad, and a wee bit creepy. Most of his listeners are probably too damned stupid to even realize he's dead and ranting about a white grievance that happened 50 years ago. Gee, what a wonderful way to be remembered?"
12:09 schestowitz; DaemonFC: lol
12:09 schestowitz; DaemonFC: was this in public?
12:09 schestowitz; or direct message?
12:09 DaemonFC; Yes.
12:09 DaemonFC; Public.
12:09 schestowitz; hahga
12:10 schestowitz; DaemonFC: repent your sins
12:10 schestowitz; marry a "nice girl"
12:10 TR News; "the US now hosts more child sexual abuse material (CSAM) online than any other country" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/27/people-are-lying-to-the-media-about-earn-it-the-media-has-to-stop-parroting-their-false-claims/ | Source: Techdirt
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12:10 TR Bot; Are Lying To The Media About EARN IT; The Media Has To Stop Parroting Their False Claims | Techdirt
12:11 TR News; Fauci farting through his lips https://truthout.org/articles/at-long-last-anthony-fauci-has-let-me-down/ | Source: TruthOut
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12:14 schestowitz; wb, matey
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12:15 matey; the other day: thanks for letting me know openbsd is for servers, not my laptops matey
12:15 matey; i mean that was trolling
12:15 matey; because you already said that in september
12:15 matey; so i couldnt have "informed" you of what you already knew
12:15 schestowitz; I considered openbsd for my laptop
12:16 schestowitz; but that laptop, mas it turned out, was not just for storage
12:16 schestowitz; as I installed many things on it
12:16 schestowitz; like obs
12:16 schestowitz; on the server side, this month we buildm techrights on devuan
12:16 DaemonFC; Me on Facebook: "Never buy a car that had a woman's name on the title unless a mechanic goes over it. You will spend thousands trying to catch up on the backlog of maintenance and repairs. Plus, they always end up with like 80% of the really interesting car damage like curbs and mail boxes."
12:16 schestowitz; but did not deploy
12:17 DaemonFC; <schestowitz> but did not deploy
12:17 DaemonFC; Interesting you should say that.
12:17 DaemonFC; I got ANOTHER recall notice from KIA.
12:17 DaemonFC; Now the engine may explode and the airbags might not deploy in a crash.
12:17 DaemonFC; This is getting better.
12:17 DaemonFC; Good luck, John.
12:18 matey; schestowitz what distro are you on again? Sep 10 21:05
12:18 DaemonFC; Plus, they're being sued because almost all of the cars they make have really shitty engines that burn oil right away.
12:18 matey; schestowitz I was always curious about openbsd Sep 10 21:05
12:18 matey; schestowitz some friends use it on servers Sep 10 21:05
12:18 matey; schestowitz but in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found, maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain Sep 10 21:06
12:19 matey; im "pro bsd" but the only reason people use it is just "smaller footprint" and "experience gain"
12:19 matey; theres really no other reason it exists...
12:19 matey; i like the maybe though
12:19 matey; "maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain"
12:19 matey; sort of like "fig is sort of back, albeit too shy to admit that he wants to be back after insulting a whole bunch of us (RMS and Oliva too) in a totally unwarranted fashion"
12:19 matey; watch for the maybes and sort ofs
12:20 matey; "fig is sort of back" <- that was completely made up
12:20 matey; oliva apologised for helping you throw me under the bus you know
12:21 matey; but you said i "insulted him" and it was "a totally unwarranted fashion"
12:21 DaemonFC; "Several bills were passed to address statewide teacher shortages during Illinois' most recent legislative session. Today, April 27, Gov. JB Pritzker signs one into law."
12:21 matey; watch for the maybes and sort ofs
12:21 DaemonFC; I said, on Facebook: "It should require everyone at the DMV to go fill in as a substitute teacher for two months for free to pay taxpayers for the two months sitting on their ass while we couldn't go in and get our vehicle papers done."
12:21 matey; you know when you constantly tell little lies and bullshit about bsd...
12:21 matey; you reveal the threat it poses to you
12:22 matey; i mean, it SHOULDNT pose any threat at all
12:22 matey; but so many people in here use it, and know that " schestowitz but in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found, maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain" is bullshit
12:22 matey; theyre using it to get away from things youve already complained about (or pretended to care about)
12:22 matey; like microsoft taking over linux
12:22 matey; or systemd (which you never cared about)
12:23 matey; "in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found"
12:23 matey; thats some bullshit right there.
12:23 matey; there are no real practical benefits to bsd, says mr pro-bsd
12:23 matey; you know it follows the same pattern you mentioned about microsoft trolls who damned linux with faint praise
12:24 matey; years and years ago
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12:24 matey; "oh i tried linux, dont get me wrong, its good BUT"
12:24 matey; its funny, you spent a year telling people i left because of an argument with mincer-- which was insignificant except as a trigger for something more important
12:25 matey; To me, personally, this really came out of nowhere, and not forthe first time. IIRC, the first time was, I argued that a BSDlicence would be a regression. (Because it's what companies thatexploit "free labour" code prefer us to use) Dec 21 18:39
12:25 matey; yeah, i wrote an article about an operating system
12:25 matey; then you started writing bs about a license in another article.
12:26 matey; and i said i was leaving in august
12:26 matey; in august
12:26 matey; but according to you, EVERYTHING STARTED with some exchange in december
12:26 matey; even though i wrote an actual article about leaving in august.
12:26 matey; and you told me "oh thats a misunderstanding"
12:27 DaemonFC; Some of the reason for things like systemd that depend heavily on Linux-only functionality is to harass the other *nix operating systems and hinder their compatibility. GNOME has decided that they don't care about broad compatibility and will lean heavily on systemd.
12:27 DaemonFC; It used to work fine on all sorts of non-Linux systems.
12:27 matey; but then you told people here i was being "flippant"
12:27 matey; you also said you had nothing to do with the exchange with mincer...
12:27 matey; that was another lie.
12:28 matey; mincer was no different than usual. extremely technical and a little snarky, but thats not a crime
12:28 matey; you claimed NOTHING TO DO WITH ME! but that was a bit of a rewrite.
12:29 matey; i mean you were the one implying that the only reason to have a reaction was imagination and racism.
12:29 matey; i mean my diet for the past 6 months is about 90% asian
12:29 matey; no sensitivities to any of it
12:30 matey; i eat thai peppers, scotch bonnets, ghost peppers, i love high scoville ratings-- no problem
12:31 matey; but somehow implying my argument is racist and inserting THAT into the conversation is "NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!"
12:31 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/trending/scam-alert-police-warn-of-texts-calls-threatening-to-kill-family-members/
12:31 TR Bot; Scam alert: Police warn of texts, calls threatening to kill family members | WGN-TV
12:31 DaemonFC; "Man, I liked them better when they were Microsoft or the IRS or saying they found my car on the Mexican border with blood and cocaine in it.
12:31 DaemonFC; When they did the last one I started pretending to be Walter White in a monologue and confessing to everything Walter did in the series. And I don't think they understood me because they let me get to like Season 4 before they hung up."
12:31 matey; it wasnt about mincer at all.
12:32 matey; i just felt ganged up on, because you were trying to fan flames in an exchange that was (my fault as much as anyones) pedantic and silly.
12:32 matey; but that wasnt mincers fault-- you were trolling.
12:32 matey; i was trying to relate a personal experience
12:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I realized when the Indian guy on the phone asked my name and I said "Heisenberg" and he started calling me that, that I could have some fun with this.
12:33 matey; like your imaginary experience with bsd, except not imagined.
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12:33 matey; heres what actually happened: before august, it was all benefit-of-the-doubt and "assuming good faith"
12:33 matey; sure, id had doubts but brushed them off
12:33 matey; like when i did that stuff about debian stats and you said "can i use this" and i was like "sure"
12:34 matey; it was meant as a starting point-- not to be conclusive
12:34 matey; you invented a conclusion, put words in my mouth, my reaction over here was "wtf just happened"
12:34 matey; but i was like whatever
12:34 matey; august was the big wtf moment.
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12:35 matey; of course you know i was talking about SOFTWARE, not a license
12:35 matey; you made it about the license.
12:35 matey; as if theyre the same thing
12:35 matey; then i said "fuck this, im out" and youre like "that was a misunderstanding"
12:35 matey; so im like (dopey dopey) oh i guess ill... i dont know, not leave yet
12:36 matey; its always been like this though
12:37 matey; finally in december i realised i was definitely being used.
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12:37 matey; yes it was triggered by a very unimportant (attempted) conversation with mincer, but that was incidental-- trivia-- meaningless.
12:38 matey; it was the way you inserted yourself into that exchanged, tried to use it against me, after EVERYTHING ELSE
12:38 matey; and all i wanted to do was leave
12:38 matey; couldnt leave in august-- no, you had to lie and say it was a misunderstanding
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12:38 matey; it wasnt. it was an understanding.
12:38 matey; i understood just fine.
12:38 matey; so i tried to leave (and yes i was angry) in december
12:39 matey; couldnt do that either...
12:39 matey; no, you had to punish me for it.
12:39 matey; making things up and lying to people
12:39 matey; thatll teach someone to stop helping you for free after years (years) of doing so
12:39 schestowitz; that's untrue actually
12:39 schestowitz; (sorry, I was in another channel and posting links, catching up here now)
12:40 matey; oh fuck you, you compulsive lying shit.
12:40 schestowitz; ?
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12:40 schestowitz; No, I was posting daily links
12:40 matey; no i mean about the past few years
12:40 matey; not two minutes ago
12:40 schestowitz; and I said hi and then you just started getting all upset
12:40 matey; oh im not upset
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12:41 matey; ive had more than a year to process this.
12:41 matey; its cool
12:41 matey; techrights is entirely about 15 years of seeing what you can get people to do for you for free
12:41 schestowitz; wb,you are quoting very old things
12:41 matey; i mean its a personal blog sure
12:41 matey; very old things
12:41 matey; not old to me
12:41 schestowitz; from a time when you wrote many things against me
12:42 matey; yes they were about things you did, which were INCREDIBLY dishonest and manipulative of you
12:42 matey; including lying to stallman about me.
12:42 matey; a personal hero
12:42 schestowitz; matey: you are also misframing this
12:42 schestowitz; I have no gain from this
12:42 matey; no.
12:42 matey; oh you know what your gain is?
12:42 schestowitz; I'm working for free just like everyone ewlse
12:42 matey; yeah
12:42 schestowitz; in fact, worse, I pay bills
12:42 matey; yeah
12:42 schestowitz; and when the database goes titsup I need to stay up overnight to fix it
12:43 schestowitz; sites don't "just run"
12:43 matey; i mean to your credit, you actually built this thing.
12:43 schestowitz; not even "on the clown"
12:43 matey; you didnt buy it like elon and twitter
12:43 schestowitz; all yoru work is now in gemini too
12:43 schestowitz; all of it
12:43 matey; but if twitter costs him more than it makes him
12:43 matey; the purpose is clear
12:43 schestowitz; twitter was a mistake
12:43 matey; no, it serves his ego
12:43 schestowitz; I mean, sure, it was a different thing 7 years ago
12:43 matey; what you "get" out of techrights is twofold
12:44 matey; first, you get to spend years saying how techrights saved gnu/linux
12:44 matey; which is nonsense
12:44 schestowitz; id I say that??
12:44 matey; second, you get to spend years getting people to do things for you.
12:44 schestowitz; false
12:44 matey; i mean theres nothing wrong with asking people to volunteer.
12:44 matey; true.
12:44 schestowitz; I spend a lot of hours for people
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12:44 schestowitz; for projects
12:44 matey; yeah
12:44 matey; for you.
12:44 schestowitz; for no gain
12:44 schestowitz; and have for 20 years
12:44 matey; because other people can do things for their ego
12:44 matey; but not you. thats impossible.
12:44 matey; the problem, really, the main problem
12:45 matey; is that you get people to do things for you by bullshitting
12:45 schestowitz; you could say corbyn and sanders do it for "ego"
12:45 matey; but not you.
12:45 matey; this is a public service.
12:45 schestowitz; but that's implying ego is some kind of currency
12:45 matey; lying to people on behalf of systemd and against bsd.
12:45 schestowitz; I never boosted systemd
12:45 matey; no, that wasnt subtle enuogh
12:46 schestowitz; when we first spoke (email) it was about sdystemd bashing
12:46 schestowitz; you asked me, why not expose systemd agenda
12:46 matey; and you pretended to give a shit
12:46 schestowitz; and I responded, showing you we had done it many times
12:46 matey; then you posted a year or two later
12:46 schestowitz; but were focused on things like patents
12:46 matey; you were "neutral or apathetic" about it.
12:46 matey; in an article.
12:46 schestowitz; quote/link?
12:46 schestowitz; maybe I was many years ago
12:46 schestowitz; like 4+
12:47 schestowitz; many were, too
12:47 matey; no, this was a year or two after i started helping.
12:47 schestowitz; tyhe latest FUD attack from Microsoft is networkd iirc
12:47 schestowitz; they now call systemd "linux|"
12:47 matey; the one with the picture of tux being sent to the red hat electric chair
12:47 schestowitz; when it suits them
12:48 matey; which i never intended you to post as an article, the image was copyrighted
12:48 schestowitz; matey: tux was being recharged by "elon"
12:48 matey; the thing im never going to forgive you for of course was lying to stallman.
12:48 schestowitz; I think johns is to blame, too
12:49 matey; YES HE IS!
12:49 schestowitz; rms was being put under intense pressure
12:49 schestowitz; and you called john some named
12:49 schestowitz; so it became personal
12:49 matey; i was told he was part of the coup
12:49 matey; and you threw me under the bus for that.
12:49 matey; schestowitz__ *figosdev no longer writes for us. On many things I agree with him, but it always disturbed me that he urged you to step down* (also some of the things he wrote about the FSF, a sort of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"). Jan 04
12:49 matey; thats what you said to stallman about me.
12:49 schestowitz; and at the end oliva convinced rms to not mind john (IIRC)
12:50 matey; tom said about that lie "Not only is it ancient history, with no bearing on the present, but you had fully explained the context previously. For him to bring this up now is simply a smear"
12:50 schestowitz; I always told you asking rms to step down was a bad idea
12:50 schestowitz; not just for tact reason s
12:50 schestowitz; but for pragmatic reasons
12:50 matey; I always told you asking rms to step down was a bad idea <- another fabrication
12:50 schestowitz; he should stay and can stay
12:50 matey; youve neve saidthat
12:50 matey; you understand you have a pathological lying disorder
12:50 matey; personally i think its textbook narcissism. but it could be any cluster-b disorder.
12:50 schestowitz; I did tell you it was a bad idea
12:50 schestowitz; to tell a person to step down from his org
12:51 matey; you lie to people to make them do you what yo uwant
12:51 schestowitz; another person I know said that
12:51 schestowitz; very confrontational no matter how it is phrased
12:51 schestowitz; if someone told me to leave techrights, I'd be offended
12:51 schestowitz; RMS did not even express a desire to leave
12:51 matey; i only said he should step down as president
12:51 matey; and it wasnt a matter of phrasing
12:51 schestowitz; unlike some fatigued people who do look for a way out
12:51 matey; it was a matter of continuing a line of succession
12:52 schestowitz; apparently Mark Shuttleworth
12:52 matey; under terms that rms had control over
12:52 matey; the fsf had already stagnated for years
12:52 matey; everyone here knows it
12:52 schestowitz; OK, I see
12:52 matey; no, you dont
12:52 matey; you just found another angle to take this
12:52 matey; this is what you do.
12:52 schestowitz; no
12:52 matey; yes.
12:52 schestowitz; I need to see what you actually said
12:52 matey; ou know what i said, you published it
12:52 schestowitz; another person said it more crudely
12:53 schestowitz; like, "I AM GOING TO REPLACE YOU!"
12:53 matey; oh and you mixed the two up and told a personal hero of mine
12:53 matey; oops
12:53 schestowitz; fsf stagnated
12:53 schestowitz; that is true
12:53 schestowitz; but rms doing succession plans would not slow it down
12:53 matey; and i only said he should step down as president and find a successor
12:53 schestowitz; as the stagnation of gnu was for external fators
12:53 schestowitz; at the tyime
12:53 matey; not from the board
12:53 schestowitz; as I see it
12:54 schestowitz; and also not keeping up with some threats
12:54 schestowitz; and sponsors
12:54 schestowitz; which again, were seen as essential for paying salaries
12:54 matey; and not based on lies and bullshit (which nadine strossen did a wonderful job of refuting, and she is amazing)
12:54 schestowitz; I only know nadine for that mini interview she did
12:54 matey; none of what youre saying does anything to address my concerns, they focus entirely on-- this is more "NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!"
12:54 schestowitz; and that she met rbg
12:55 matey; youll never make a mistake unless its unimportant. you have no (meaingful) flaws.
12:55 matey; youll never make an apology about something that matters.
12:55 schestowitz; you made some enemies
12:55 matey; yeah
12:55 matey; and you took their side
12:55 schestowitz; and those enemies you made came after me
12:55 schestowitz; inc. fossforce
12:55 schestowitz; when you called them names
12:55 matey; christine is a liar and shill
12:56 schestowitz; and anonymously
12:56 schestowitz; so they go after me
12:56 matey; so this is your explanation of why you lied about me?
12:56 matey; wait, the truth is slipping out
12:56 matey; you were threatened and sold me out.
12:56 matey; so youd have clean hands.
12:56 schestowitz; no, I clarified that your views were yours
12:56 schestowitz; to rms
12:56 schestowitz; to christine
12:56 matey; you lied about my views.
12:56 schestowitz; I share many views
12:56 schestowitz; but we are not the same person
12:56 schestowitz; lxr said the same
12:56 matey; ill say.
12:57 schestowitz; *lxo
12:57 matey; yeah i dont trust him either
12:57 matey; whats to trust
12:57 schestowitz; christine is not a shill
12:57 schestowitz; christine needs a pension
12:57 schestowitz; and made some foolish money-grabbing attempts
12:57 schestowitz; over the past few years
12:57 matey; consisting of shilling and lying
12:57 schestowitz; I don't resent her for it
12:57 schestowitz; but I am disappointed
12:57 matey; just like phipps
12:58 matey; but I am disappointed <- YOURE disappointed
12:58 schestowitz; phipps has a lot of money
12:58 schestowitz; so he cannot find the same excuses
12:58 matey; you lied and and manipulated me for years, but its all about you
12:58 matey; lol
12:58 schestowitz; matey: disappointed at her
12:58 schestowitz; not you
12:58 matey; bullshit
12:58 matey; you smeared me for a whole year
12:58 matey; you must be disappointed
12:58 matey; you made things up!
12:58 schestowitz; no, you smeared me
12:58 schestowitz; and I responded
12:58 matey; mmhmm...
12:59 matey; darvo.
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 324.73
12:59 schestowitz; the rest was me tying to wrap my head around what had happened
12:59 matey; i thought it was just me.
12:59 matey; youve done it to other people too
12:59 matey; when people leave here, you always act like its a big mystery
12:59 matey; people leave communities ALL THE TIME
13:00 matey; its not a mystery, reasons vary
13:00 matey; time constraints
13:00 matey; families starting
13:00 matey; boredom. disappointment. better things to do.
13:00 matey; you always act like its a big mystery when someone leaves
13:00 matey; no, you smeared me <- this is a rewrite of history
13:01 matey; i left you alone for a month while you told people bullshit.
13:01 matey; then i defended myself
13:01 matey; somehow you get that mixed up
13:01 schestowitz; no
13:01 schestowitz; you did it prior also
13:01 matey; nope
13:01 matey; ive been entirely honest about you
13:01 schestowitz; you sent me email "articles" calling me names
13:01 matey; not smearing
13:01 matey; you sent me email "articles" calling me names <- they were complaining about what you did.
13:02 matey; to me. personally.
13:02 matey; i said youdidnt have to publish. you didnt.
13:02 matey; how is that smearing?
13:02 schestowitz; I never censored you
13:02 matey; it wasnt published.
13:02 schestowitz; and yet you expect me
13:02 matey; it wasnt published!
13:02 schestowitz; to agree with everything you say
13:02 matey; how can i smear you with a private email sent only to you?
13:02 schestowitz; on bsd, systemd etc.
13:02 matey; youre delusional.
13:02 schestowitz; look what you wrote there
13:02 matey; and yet you expect m <- to agree with everything you say <-
13:02 matey; no
13:02 schestowitz; if it even looked like an article
13:03 matey; i expect you to be honest.
13:03 matey; i expect you to NOT waffle back and forth to maximise readers
13:03 schestowitz; by that you mean,
13:03 schestowitz; "I am honest"
13:03 matey; by appealing to everyone, on both sides of the fence
13:03 matey; i expect you to not keep people on a treadmill of fake progress
13:03 schestowitz; "and if you do not share my views, you are dishonest"
13:03 matey; saying you care about x and then saying x isnt so bad
13:03 matey; "and if you do not share my views, you are dishonest" <- i mean is that supposed to be a quote
13:03 matey; or your imagined interpretation
13:03 matey; because i never said that.
13:04 schestowitz; no, it's hypothetical
13:04 matey; yes
13:04 matey; as hypothetical as you being mexican
13:04 matey; its complete nonsense
13:05 matey; i mean you dont have to be a bsd fanboy
13:05 matey; better if youre not really
13:05 matey; if you just stopped lying about it
13:05 matey; but bsd poses some threat to you
13:05 matey; i can guess what it is
13:05 matey; you do the same thing to bsd you did to me of course
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13:05 schestowitz; bsd licences are easier for companies that hurt us to l;everage against us
13:05 schestowitz; that much is true
13:06 matey; funny because
13:06 matey; microsoft controls linux (gpl)
13:06 matey; ibm controls gnu with systemd
13:06 matey; to me its about the software more than the licenses, but this DOES NOT mean the licenses dont matter
13:06 matey; i understand permissive vs copyleft
13:06 matey; its not news to me
13:06 matey; im a former fsf member. youre not.
13:06 matey; ive given them loads of money
13:07 matey; bought lots of stuff
13:07 matey; i understand gpl vs bsd license
13:07 matey; you keep making it about that
13:07 matey; you gloss over the reasons people are interested in the operating system
13:08 matey; linux is less free than the openbsd kernel.
13:08 matey; linux-libre is free
13:08 matey; linux is a non-free kernel.
13:08 matey; linux has non-free drivers. openbsd kernel doesnt.
13:08 matey; its a WEIRD double standard
13:08 matey; hyperbola is fsf-approved
13:08 schestowitz; that's "just" the kernel
13:09 schestowitz; most of the time it does boring stuff
13:09 schestowitz; "boring"
13:09 matey; blah blah blah
13:09 matey; i talked about pairing the openbsd kernel with gnu
13:09 schestowitz; android uses Linux
13:09 schestowitz; but it spies a lot
13:09 matey; to salvage gnu
13:09 schestowitz; Gulag does not like GPL
13:09 matey; thats what hyperbola is about
13:09 matey; its gets NO LOVE from the fsf at all
13:09 schestowitz; and for that matter, it dislikes what RMS says
13:09 schestowitz; DiBona signed the defamation letter
13:09 matey; SO DID CHRISTINE!
13:10 matey; so did bilefield
13:10 matey; so did phipps
13:10 matey; and you dont care.
13:10 schestowitz; I don't care?
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13:10 matey; so dont pretend you care about anyone else signing it either.
13:10 schestowitz; false.
13:10 matey; <schestowitz> I don't care? <- i tokd you phipps sined
13:10 matey; signed
13:10 matey; you said you werent mad at him.
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13:11 matey; phipps, christine, bilefield all signed. what bilefield wrote was defamation
13:11 matey; you didnt care.
13:11 matey; in fact i dont think youre actually emotionally capable of caring.
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13:11 matey; it wouldnt make you the only sociopath around here, theres another one (self-identified) i respect.
13:12 schestowitz; like I didn't talk about the bbyfield posts?
13:12 schestowitz; or the signature?
13:12 matey; high-functioning mild sociopath, like sherlock holmes maybe
13:12 matey; im mostly referring to what you said about phipps.
13:12 matey; the rivalry with you and bilefield is well known
13:12 schestowitz; it is not rivalry
13:12 schestowitz; it's a strong disagreement
13:12 matey; hell i think he even wrote a condescending article about you and techrights specifically
13:12 matey; saying anti-techrights
13:12 schestowitz; going back to mono, ooxml, and novell
13:13 matey; <schestowitz> it's a strong disagreement
13:13 matey; oh right right i thought you meant the letter.
13:13 matey; i was like lol
13:13 schestowitz; bbyyfield is barely relevant since 2010
13:13 matey; thank god for small favours
13:13 schestowitz; he started attacking groklaw too
13:14 matey; hes a slimeball
13:14 schestowitz; and then apologise not for novell but for microsoft too
13:14 matey; but you probably think thats too negative
13:14 schestowitz; then he abandoned and started doing howtos
13:14 schestowitz; and then came back for a bit
13:14 schestowitz; then vanished again
13:14 matey; whatever happened to shane anyway
13:14 matey; i assume he was too busy and/or lost interest
13:15 matey; especially after mono practically failed
13:15 matey; i mean this WAS a single purpose site but it didnt work out that way
13:15 matey; i remember when it became techrights
13:15 schestowitz; mono?
13:15 schestowitz; it was never about mono
13:15 schestowitz; he made his own distro
13:15 matey; i paid no attention for many years, but we used to talk a decade ago. for a short while. you quoted me in 2010.
13:16 schestowitz; I was not aware it was you
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13:16 schestowitz; so it was another name
13:16 matey; it was never about mono <- my mistake, the NOMO logo on the site forever must have made me think it was
13:16 schestowitz; I think you did mention this to m,e before
13:16 matey; i mean it was above novell
13:16 matey; about
13:16 schestowitz; oh
13:16 schestowitz; you mean the one in japan
13:16 schestowitz; was it jason?
13:16 matey; and you thought "boycott novell" was "too negative"
13:16 matey; was it jason? <- was what jason?
13:16 schestowitz; mono-nono
13:16 schestowitz; I forgot the name of his other site
13:17 matey; no let me find the url (on your website)
13:17 matey; its in the sidebar
13:18 matey; hmm
13:18 matey; maybe its only on the frontpage, lets find an archive
13:18 matey; since the lightweight redesign
13:19 matey; anyway, friends, enemies, it makes no difference
13:19 matey; theyre all people you know
13:19 matey; people you talk to
13:20 matey; /me goes to 2019 thinking the logo is probably there
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13:21 schestowitz; matey: which logo? maybe I can help find it
13:21 schestowitz; something mono?
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13:23 matey; http://techrights.org/images/nomo.png
13:23 matey; so im probably thinking of that
13:23 matey; thats the xamarin logo or something yes?
13:23 matey; or whatever it was before xamarin
13:23 schestowitz; you can say it is old
13:23 schestowitz; based on the path
13:23 matey; oh i know its been there for ages
13:23 schestowitz; the site was VERY young when I made that
13:23 matey; yeah
13:24 matey; but it was still there in 2019
13:24 matey; im not attaching much significance to it
13:24 schestowitz; I was a student back then
13:24 matey; just that if i thought it was about mono...
13:24 matey; yeah
13:24 schestowitz; literally sitting in the LAB at uni
13:24 matey; but the thing is, you had this campaign to get rid of mono deps
13:24 schestowitz; before I dis the thesis from home
13:24 schestowitz; *did
13:24 matey; and you promoted alternatives
13:24 matey; and it worked, i think even i...
13:24 matey; i avoided mono like the plague
13:25 schestowitz; mono is still around
13:25 schestowitz; but like .NET it's rotting away
13:25 schestowitz; miguel and nat left microsoft
13:25 matey; you always say that
13:25 matey; everything bad is already disappearing
13:25 matey; will be gone soon
13:25 schestowitz; "real soon now!" :-)
13:25 schestowitz; "5 minutes"
13:25 matey; closer to the truth
13:25 schestowitz; "on the way!"
13:25 schestowitz; having morale raised helps too
13:26 schestowitz; a lot of negativism can weaken activism
13:26 schestowitz; but it lower expectations, which can be good
13:26 schestowitz; look at windows market share
13:26 schestowitz; little by little it decreased to 30%
13:26 matey; http://techrights.org/2009/08/31/boycott-novell-as-negative/
13:26 TR Bot; Why So Negative? | Techrights
13:28 matey; Issues that need to be unspun or addressed for the risks that they are will usually be turned into posts in order to understand threats to freedom. This is why an impression may be given that the site has an alarmist aspect to it. Microsoft is covered a lot because Microsoft is by far the biggest opponent to Free software, and certainly the most active one.
13:29 matey; i like when threats are taken seriously
13:29 matey; these days, rms is making MORE concessions to open source
13:29 matey; while microsoft uses "open source" to take over its opponents
13:30 schestowitz; RMS is indebted
13:30 schestowitz; to various factors
13:30 schestowitz; he might not admit it
13:30 matey; i think hes compromised in a way, but im not sure which
13:30 schestowitz; he was more revolutionary 20 years ago
13:30 matey; YES he was
13:30 matey; and thats why i said he should step down
13:30 matey; so someone more revolutionary could step up
13:30 matey; however...
13:30 schestowitz; you can also heard that in older speeches
13:30 matey; i ALSO said
13:30 schestowitz; he used words like "evil"
13:31 matey; he should be part of the transition
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13:31 matey; he should not leave the fsf
13:31 matey; only the position
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13:31 matey; and that he should mentor his replacement
13:31 matey; this is not the call for him to have no influence
13:31 schestowitz; a more revolutionary person would get pushed out by the likes of Kat Walsh and bkuhn he/hjim
13:31 matey; but for the fsf to continue
13:31 matey; a more revolutionary person would get pushed out by the likes of <- he WAS pushed out
13:31 schestowitz; there is a corrosive force
13:31 schestowitz; not just inside the fsf
13:32 schestowitz; and sfc
13:32 schestowitz; it's a stench that's everywhere now
13:32 schestowitz; inc. shithub
13:32 matey; yes, it rhymes with "corrosive force"
13:32 schestowitz; "professionalism" is their excuse
13:32 schestowitz; (they are not THEMSELVES professional)
13:32 matey; no theyre hypocrites
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13:33 schestowitz; at least some people talk abotu it
13:33 schestowitz; tonight I will record a long video about LF
13:33 schestowitz; and what became of it
13:33 schestowitz; because we have 4 bits of new material
13:33 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=awY1MRlMKMc
13:33 TR Bot; Henry Rollins - Liar - Higher Quality - Invidious
13:33 schestowitz; then we have a video to do about Lukashenko
13:33 schestowitz; Luka has his own CoC
13:34 schestowitz; it's "unprofessional" to do opinion polls
13:34 matey; code of conquest?
13:34 schestowitz; they might show the "CEO" is not popular
13:34 matey; code of censorship
13:34 schestowitz; yeah
13:34 matey; code of corporate ethics
13:34 schestowitz; in belarus
13:35 matey; <schestowitz> RMS is indebted <schestowitz> he might not admit it <- the real richard stallman is not coming back
13:35 schestowitz; Gulag will; cancel Henry Rollins next
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13:35 schestowitz; sorry, "demonetise"
13:35 schestowitz; shadowban"
13:35 schestowitz; "hey hi"
13:35 schestowitz; "we're not in control of the algorithms!!!"
13:35 matey; NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!
13:36 schestowitz; it's da hey hi
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13:36 schestowitz; da hey hay ate ma homework
13:37 matey; the reason people are interested in bsd
13:37 matey; is because they want control of their computing
13:37 matey; and its pretty obvious that whether bsd ever makes that possible or not
13:37 matey; for some it clearly does
13:38 matey; gnu/linux probably wont
13:38 matey; i watched devuan for years-- switched my main development machine to it in feb or march 2015.
13:38 matey; first iso download was feb 14 2015.
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13:38 matey; i watched them struggle for years
13:39 matey; jaromil moved a lot of stuff from dyne TO github
13:39 matey; hes the one who created dyne:bolic
13:39 matey; fully free, fsf approved
13:39 matey; he moved TO github in the past year or two i think
13:39 matey; at least i only found out recently
13:40 matey; but the devuan struggle is nearly fruitless
13:40 matey; they take a step forward
13:40 matey; systemd (somehow, i dont get it) drags them two steps back
13:40 matey; antix/mx doesnt have this struggle, but theyre github-based so no.
13:40 matey; most systemd-free distros are github-based
13:40 schestowitz; did toy ask jaromil why he did this?
13:41 matey; jaromil is nearly the flightiest person ive ever talked to
13:41 schestowitz; some people are enticed by 'free'bies and bribes
13:41 schestowitz; like CPU cycles
13:41 matey; i think he might actually be radioactive
13:41 schestowitz; shitLAB charges for it
13:41 matey; i like him but i gave up talking to him more than a year ago
13:41 matey; it simply wasnt going anywhere
13:41 matey; he did a thesis on free software
13:41 matey; its interesting
13:42 schestowitz; seems weird he would even touch shitlab with a 10-foot bargepole
13:42 schestowitz; he should know better
13:42 matey; i agree
13:42 matey; but then dyne is free/open
13:42 schestowitz; personal account of project's?
13:42 matey; i mean i think dyne early one
13:42 matey; on
13:42 matey; WAS a personal project
13:42 schestowitz; maybe it was done against his will to appease someone?
13:42 matey; he spun it into a "forge"
13:42 matey; i dont know
13:42 matey; hes very hands-off admin-wise
13:43 schestowitz; he knows how to set up git
13:43 matey; yeah
13:43 matey; it could easily be someone elses decision
13:43 matey; but he doesnt call the shots in devuan at all
13:43 schestowitz; in deuan it takes more time to wait for the install
13:43 schestowitz; than to get git
13:43 matey; i mean he stepped down before it started
13:43 schestowitz; and configure it
13:43 matey; hes subservient by choice
13:43 matey; he lets his people run it
13:43 schestowitz; I am too
13:43 matey; which is too bad
13:43 schestowitz; at work I choose not to be promoted ever
13:43 matey; his people demand non-free stuff in the installer
13:43 schestowitz; it means less responsibility
13:44 matey; his people are absolutely terrible to people who are interested in devuan
13:44 schestowitz; maybe jaromil doesn't want to be contact point
13:44 schestowitz; so he can do his own thing
13:44 schestowitz; and branch out
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13:44 matey; there was an exchange between the person running the forum and esr
13:44 matey; esr was interested
13:44 schestowitz; esr is MIA
13:44 matey; one exchange with the non-technical molly-like egomaniac
13:44 schestowitz; since 1.5 years ago
13:44 matey; well
13:45 matey; ariadne said what, hes a white supremacist?
13:45 Chaul-Jhin-Kim; Hi I am interested in technology and its intersection with our society.
13:45 schestowitz; he is
13:45 matey; i guess the helmet with horns was a sign
13:45 matey; but i havent found any evidence of his racism
13:45 schestowitz; many people in his position would fall back on that
13:45 matey; then again i havent paid much attention
13:45 matey; maybe osi should have been called wpi
13:45 schestowitz; see his blog prior to the DB crasdh
13:45 matey; the white power initiative
13:46 schestowitz; he did lots of dog-whistling
13:46 matey; yeah so did the guy who smirked at someone playing a drum in his face
13:46 matey; so did stallman
13:46 matey; i mean
13:46 matey; have they got anything besides "dog-whistles"
13:47 matey; i dont even like esr, id LOVE a reason to write him off
13:47 matey; i dont like anything about him.
13:47 schestowitz; ICBM: WHITE(HURST) (Open)Power
13:47 matey; but before i call someone a white supremacist i like to have more to go on than "dog-whistles" or "posts on 4chan"
13:47 matey; doesnt mean hes ok
13:47 matey; just that im not joining a brigade without facts
13:48 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/
13:48 TR Bot; Armed and Dangerous Sex, software, politics, and firearms. Life's simple pleasures
13:48 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752
13:48 TR Bot; Kyle Rittenhouse and the militia obligation Armed and Dangerous
13:48 matey; otherwise, how do i know theyre not doing a stallman
13:48 Chaul-Jhin-Kim; Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. TIME TRAVELERS or MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN formerly of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER. I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body! Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN
13:48 Chaul-Jhin-Kim; KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL).
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13:48 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8708
13:48 TR Bot; Rules for rioters Armed and Dangerous
13:48 matey; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8752 <- i was waiting for something more specific than just "visit his blog"
13:48 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8685
13:48 matey; ok reading
13:48 TR Bot; This is your final warning Armed and Dangerous
13:49 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8632
13:49 TR Bot; Choosing your weapons wisely Armed and Dangerous
13:49 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8627
13:49 TR Bot; PSA: COVID-19 is a bad reason to get a firearm Armed and Dangerous
13:49 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8587
13:49 TR Bot; Chinese bioweapon II: Electric Boogaloo Armed and Dangerous
13:49 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8566
13:49 TR Bot; Three reasons to believe the Wuhan virus is a bioweapon Armed and Dangerous
13:49 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8526
13:49 TR Bot; The Great Inversion Armed and Dangerous
13:50 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8443
13:50 TR Bot; The Order of Defenders Armed and Dangerous
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13:50 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8342
13:50 TR Bot; A libertarian rethinks immigration Armed and Dangerous
13:51 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8310
13:51 TR Bot; Spotting the wild Fascist Armed and Dangerous
13:51 matey; i almost feel bad for perens
13:51 matey; he really picked a winner
13:52 matey; wow http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8443
13:52 matey; i have no problem with gun nuts, but this is a guy with a gun who is nuts.
13:52 matey; this is a ranting lunatic with a firearm
13:53 matey; (doesnt change my stance on guns at all, lots of anti-esr pro-gun people here)
13:53 schestowitz; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7871
13:53 TR Bot; How elites are blind about immigration Armed and Dangerous
13:53 matey; maybe its good if natural causes take him down.
13:53 matey; im still not sure hes a white supremacist because i havent read the other urls (yet)
13:54 matey; ive only talked to him once
13:54 matey; about stallman
13:54 matey; i was not impressed.
13:54 schestowitz; I left out m,any
13:54 matey; ill check them out
13:54 schestowitz; which would be more "Debatable"
13:54 schestowitz; not sure WHEN he started writing about politics
13:54 matey; oh i mean
13:54 matey; in revolution os, like 20 years ago
13:54 schestowitz; but wikipedia said even around 9/11 he dod
13:55 schestowitz; I hadn't paid attention until years ago
13:55 matey; he said how angry it made him when people compared free software to communism
13:55 matey; even stallman refutes that
13:55 matey; but when stallman talks about communism hes talking specifically about stalinism
13:55 schestowitz; esr compared antfa to terrorists almost, or "commies"
13:55 matey; which is about as much like communism as windows is like "linux"
13:55 schestowitz; he uses "commies" as a straw man
13:56 schestowitz; e.g. in relation to venezuela
13:56 matey; i noticed
13:56 matey; thats one of the ones ive read
13:56 matey; i mean just now
13:56 schestowitz; it's free speech, but off-putting
13:57 schestowitz; you would not want your CEO writing a blog like this
13:57 matey; i mean...
13:57 matey; well its not PROFESSIONAL obviously
13:57 matey; but hes siding with the double standard of free speech but "no sedition"
13:57 matey; which constitutionally is a big deal
13:58 matey; because constitutionally...
13:58 matey; 2/3 of the people can dissolve the constitution
13:58 matey; thats a very important thing to note
13:58 matey; the people have (on paper, not in reality) ALL THE POWER
13:58 matey; sedition flies in the face of this
13:58 matey; it makes the government special
13:58 TR News; "The unknown hackers, Papers we love to read, Dual Boot Homelab in The Bedroom by the bed testbed, OpenSSH 9.0 released, OS battle: OpenBSD vs. NixOS, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/452
13:58 TR Bot; BSD Now 452: The unknown hackers
13:59 matey; and hes talking about communists like theyre guilty of sedition and implying it as treasonous and something his guns can protect us from
13:59 matey; he would shoot me, for engaging in free speech
13:59 matey; this is a guy who claims to care about free speech
13:59 matey; and a sheer hypocrite
13:59 matey; of course
13:59 matey; but as i said... i dont like anything about him
13:59 matey; he worked on termcaps or curses, or both
14:00 matey; he has some early-year tech chops related to free software
14:00 matey; other than that
14:00 matey; hes a counterrevolutionary
14:00 matey; both in regards to free software, and apparently, world politics
14:00 matey; when the world loses a counterrevolutionary, it gains.
14:01 matey; hes of no more use to free software than steve jobs was.
14:01 matey; and it wont be sad when he passes
14:01 matey; i still have to read more to determine if hes actually a white supremacist
14:01 matey; i think the whole notion of "dog-whistles" is too close to wrongthink, which is what pushed stallman to pretend to step down, or whatever.
14:02 matey; but that doesnt mean esr is NOT a white supremacist
14:02 matey; i just have a high standard of proof for that sort of thing
14:02 matey; someone told me someone in here is a white supremacist
14:02 matey; ive seen signs, so theyre not crazy to think that
14:03 matey; oh, not dfc
14:03 matey; dfc is... weird
14:03 schestowitz; I think I know who
14:03 matey; but i dont think hes a white supremacist
14:03 matey; yeah i bet you do actually
14:03 schestowitz; it's usually closeted
14:03 schestowitz; they would not say it out loud
14:03 matey; sure, i get that
14:04 schestowitz; I think they can be "cured" of it
14:04 schestowitz; i put that in quotes
14:04 matey; i mean
14:04 schestowitz; if you don't, it worsens
14:04 schestowitz; the problem does not go away
14:04 matey; i knew a guy who was at one point a white supremacist
14:04 matey; now, hes a hippie and goes to rainbow gatherings and does native american peace pipe ceremonies
14:04 matey; not that the two are entirely mutually exclusive... oddly
14:05 matey; but hes not a white supremacist
14:05 matey; anymore
14:05 matey; i was a female supremacist when i was younger
14:05 matey; i literally thought women were naturally BETTER people
14:05 matey; im basically neutral on gender now
14:05 schestowitz; collectiove pride happens when one lacks accomplishment
14:05 schestowitz; or feels singular rejection
14:06 matey; when youre young you can make false generalisations like that
14:06 schestowitz; like so-called "incels"
14:06 matey; its not just about accomplishment though
14:06 matey; anyone who feels "beaten down" by even one person in their life
14:06 matey; can be manipulated into channeling that into hate for a group
14:06 matey; "it was all the jews!"
14:06 matey; "it was all the blacks!"
14:06 matey; "it was the jews using the blacks!"
14:07 schestowitz; women are not better than men, they are just different
14:07 activelow; *bsd and gnu/linux share _many_ components, particularly those which pose a threat to both
14:07 schestowitz; like an octopus isn't better
14:07 schestowitz; or an eagle
14:07 matey; "thats why your uncle molested yoy, he was corrupted by the jews!"
14:07 matey; you
14:07 matey; "OMG IT ALL MAKES SENSE!"
14:07 schestowitz; humans are better [sic] than them in the sense they can wipe them all out (and do)
14:07 matey; <schestowitz> women are not better than men, they are just different <- i realised this later.
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14:08 matey; i met enough good men and lousy women. i didnt flip the chauvanism and hate women instead, i just abandoned the idea that anyone is superior.
14:08 schestowitz; being an eagle would be nice
14:08 matey; but i still know female supremacy when i see it
14:08 matey; my best friend is a feminist, but hes not any kind of supremacist
14:08 schestowitz; but depends where, they can starve to death or get poisoned (even hunted)
14:09 SomeH4x0r; hi matey
14:09 matey; hi
14:09 schestowitz; being an eagle in yellowstone would be fumn
14:09 SomeH4x0r; barto was around sometime yesterday
14:09 schestowitz; *fun
14:09 matey; SomeH4x0r: if barto and i talk, we talk
14:09 matey; if we dont, we dont
14:10 matey; whats meant to be will be
14:10 TR News; "Technical Marketing" seems like paradox https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/sudo-show/sudo-50/
14:10 TR Bot; 50: Careers 2 - Tech Marketing with Eric
14:10 matey; they can starve to death or get poisoned (even hunted) <- yes im familiar with "honour" killings and human trafficking.
14:11 schestowitz-TR; animals are also trafficked
14:11 schestowitz-TR; but there are other words for that
14:11 schestowitz-TR; see, humans are "different"...
14:11 schestowitz-TR; "slave trade"
14:11 schestowitz-TR; "human trafficking"
14:12 schestowitz-TR; "smuggling"
14:12 matey; no, humans arent different
14:12 matey; like quite a few other animals, humans eat meat
14:12 schestowitz-TR; I was being ironic though
14:12 matey; unlike most animals, weve become disgustingly industrial and wasteful about it
14:12 matey; we would do well to stop eating beef for a start
14:12 schestowitz-TR; if you say a human is animal it's sensed as an insult
14:12 matey; its unbelievably wasteful
14:12 schestowitz-TR; like you "DEHUMANISE" them
14:12 matey; i mean its a fact, humans are animals
14:13 schestowitz-TR; "STOP DEDOGIFYING MY DOGGY"
14:13 SomeH4x0r; oh, also goose did change the ircd on TWISTED to ergo, which I hate
14:13 schestowitz-TR; (next thing you know they're just cattle, sold as meat on the market, piecewise)
14:13 matey; i didnt know he was capable of doing that without your help
14:13 SomeH4x0r; he talks about "modernizing", I talk about destructive fake "progress"
14:14 matey; fake progress is terrible. not only does it not solve anything, it makes people stop trying to fix it.
14:14 schestowitz-TR; goose runs twisted? the python thing?
14:14 SomeH4x0r; no, irc.executingreality.com/+6697
14:15 schestowitz-TR; x org is stable
14:15 schestowitz-TR; so we solve small issues
14:15 schestowitz-TR; bugs
14:15 schestowitz-TR; wayland is a bug
14:15 SomeH4x0r; ergo breaks IRC standards
14:15 schestowitz-TR; so you end up dealing with show stoppers
14:15 schestowitz-TR; icbm, thank you!
14:15 SomeH4x0r; he is goosestepping_ here btw
14:16 matey; probably a stupid pun, i dont think hes a white supremacist
14:16 matey; it is a terrible handle at least
14:16 schestowitz-TR; fake modernity = masochism
14:17 matey; any time you use a fake solution as a solution to a problem, youre saddling yourself with whatever problem you were setting out to fix
14:17 matey; modernity is an arbitrary solution, often to problems that dont exist
14:17 matey; just as likely to cause issues as resolve them
14:18 SomeH4x0r; I don't get why this place has ergo too
14:18 SomeH4x0r; but probably you have some stupid excuses
14:18 matey; you dont like ircd3 they do
14:18 matey; im not familiar enough with ircd3 but i bet its modern
14:18 matey; and a lot of modern things are
14:18 SomeH4x0r; https://ircv3.net
14:18 TR Bot; Welcome - IRCv3
14:18 matey; im not against all modernisation
14:18 matey; its just that it has a tendency to be bullshit
14:19 matey; and im generally against bullshit
14:19 schestowitz-TR; icbm: we don't do software, we sell solutions
14:19 matey; especially as a solution
14:19 schestowitz-TR; also icbm: systemd. this is the final solution. (next: wayland)
14:20 schestowitz-TR; [14:18] <SomeH4x0r> but probably you have some stupid excuses
14:20 schestowitz-TR; the person who wrote part of ircv3
14:20 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: use a modern [ ^_^ ] irc client
14:20 SomeH4x0r; ergo is like systemd in IRC
14:20 SomeH4x0r; putting separate parts together
14:21 matey; of course if youre trying to get away from wayla# find / -type f | grep ayland | wc
14:21 matey; 0 0 0
14:22 matey; schestowitz but in terms of practical benefits over gnu/linux distros, not much to be found, maybe just smaller footprint and experience gain Sep 10 21:06
14:22 matey; and getting away from wayland
14:22 matey; and getting away from systemd
14:22 matey; and getting away from linux foundation
14:22 SomeH4x0r; it is a cancer on IRC
14:22 matey; maybe it is
14:22 matey; but youd do well to provide more details than that
14:24 schestowitz-TR; I don't have systemd on this machine
14:24 matey; ill bet you do, and its just not running as pid 1
14:25 matey; but if thats all it means to be systemd-free, we fixed that 7 years ago.
14:25 matey; /me plays crab rave
14:25 matey; hell, i even made a program that remixed debian live (9.5) to use sysvinit instead of systemd
14:25 matey; on the live installer
14:25 matey; first boot
14:26 matey; i did trisquel too
14:26 matey; their version used systemd, mine booted upstart instead-- not an older version of trisquel
14:26 matey; i mean its older NOW, it wasnt then
14:27 matey; trisquel no longer includes upstart because its really just (microsoft) ubuntu
14:27 matey; and they dont care about systemd
14:27 matey; so they hardly fight for your freedom
14:28 matey; trisquel, fully free
14:28 matey; also trisquel, sure, let ibm take control of everything
14:29 matey; but i mean, if not running systemd as init is the only problem, jaromil solved that in feb 2015 and devuan is completely unnecessary
14:29 matey; ou could replace the entire project WITH A SCRIPT
14:30 matey; except systemd is far more insidious than that
14:30 matey; or mincer would have shut up about it 7 years ago
14:30 matey; (and i would have never written a single article)
14:31 superkuh; lol.
14:31 superkuh; Does techrights exist anymore?
14:31 superkuh; Kind of like a tree falling in the forest with no one around to hear it.
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14:31 matey; <schestowitz-TR> also icbm: systemd. this is the final solution. (next: wayland) <- is that the route for the d-bus?
14:32 schestowitz-TR; -d-trains
14:32 schestowitz-TR; you swipe at the terminal
14:32 schestowitz-TR; with your phone app
14:32 schestowitz-TR; or wrist
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14:34 TR News; If it's still a "phone" and it is "mobile", then it cannot respect your human rights https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771459/install-lineageos-on-samsung-s7-phone-using-linux-mint/
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14:34 TR Bot; Install LineageOS on Samsung s7 phone using Linux Mint - Cell Phones
14:34 matey; there was a british programme in the 80s
14:34 matey; sort of a followup to "the computer programme" (sic) with one of the same people
14:34 TR News; Gammath SPOT version 3.5 (beta) released on 27 April 2022. They need to delete GitHub. https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT
14:34 matey; called "making the most of the micro"
14:34 TR Bot; Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
14:34 matey; about the bbc micro of course
14:35 matey; in the last episode they transmitted a bbc micro program over the television
14:35 matey; you would record it with the tape recorder then play it into the micro, it was pretty cool
14:35 matey; its still on youtube
14:35 TR News; Embedded Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part IV] | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/embedded-linux-project-iv Source: ubuntu
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14:35 TR Bot; Linux project: Yocto or Ubuntu Core? [Part IV] | Ubuntu
14:36 matey; in the first episode, they had a guy who had to type with a thing attached to his head
14:36 matey; but it let him use the very firm keyboard on an apple ][ or whatever machine it was
14:36 matey; and he would write programs in basic this way, because he couldnt use his hands to type
14:37 matey; i would say that touchscreens are murder for this sort of thing
14:37 TR News; Is Canonical trying to get sold to Microsoft? https://ubuntu.com//blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-1 3 Microsoft puff pieces so far this week in their blog.
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14:37 TR Bot; Active Directory Integration features in Ubuntu 22.04 (part 1) | Ubuntu
14:37 matey; i have good dexterity but i think virtual keyboards are generally a nightmare for usability
14:37 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164241
14:37 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
14:37 matey; but in reality im sure theres some eye-tracking app that serves the same purpose
14:38 matey; i mean that techs been around for decades, only it was more expensive and now you can put it in a smartphone
14:38 schestowitz-TR; virtual keyboards are not keyboard
14:38 schestowitz-TR; hence virtual
14:38 schestowitz-TR; like viertual "sex"
14:38 schestowitz-TR; or "meta" verse
14:38 schestowitz-TR; all BS
14:38 schestowitz-TR; or fake social life
14:38 schestowitz-TR; like FB walls
14:38 schestowitz-TR; and "likes"
14:38 schestowitz-TR; some people no longer understand what friendship is
14:38 matey; /me doesnt think virtual sex is bs
14:39 schestowitz-TR; they think it's "I like yours, please like mine also"
14:39 schestowitz-TR; many people still use mechaniscal keybbords
14:39 schestowitz-TR; I have 5 laptop keyboard around me at the moment
14:39 schestowitz-TR; but I use external one
14:40 matey; yeah your laptop keyboard wasnt working
14:40 schestowitz-TR; some keys
14:40 matey; right
14:40 schestowitz-TR; working, not working
14:40 matey; i had a similar issue, its common
14:40 schestowitz-TR; not consistently
14:40 matey; went and got an external
14:40 matey; i do the same for monitors
14:41 matey; the guy i wanted to perform my wedding ceremony (he was booked that day) had an old netbook with a broken screen
14:41 matey; i used a live usb to boot it and scp the filesystem over the church network to back it up for him
14:41 matey; then he gave me the netbook
14:41 matey; i stuck a monitor on it
14:42 matey; i still carried it around like a laptop but i could only use it at the library, where they had monitors
14:42 matey; or at home
14:42 matey; but with the screen removed, it weighed nothing (it was light to start with)
14:42 schestowitz-TR; the glass
14:42 schestowitz-TR; or plastic on top of it
14:42 matey; sure a little bit
14:42 schestowitz-TR; not plastic
14:43 schestowitz-TR; some other material
14:43 matey; small screen
14:43 matey; yeah i think lcd has glass
14:43 schestowitz-TR; I'm not familiar with the process
14:43 matey; even if theres plastic over it
14:43 matey; either way the screen adds weight
14:43 schestowitz-TR; some kind of Lycra maybe
14:43 matey; small screen, but small computer
14:43 schestowitz-TR; of a more solid form
14:43 schestowitz-TR; protective
14:43 matey; whatever it is, it shatters like glass does
14:43 matey; but i suppose some materials could do that
14:44 activelow; microsoft creeped deeply into X11 with their TrueType font system... it's still possible to remove it and retain X11
14:44 schestowitz-TR; old CRTs had very thick frontal glass
14:44 schestowitz-TR; you woulld see how think if you smashed one
14:44 schestowitz-TR; or saw a smashed one somewhere
14:44 schestowitz-TR; activelow: probably not their code
14:44 schestowitz-TR; just the patents
14:44 schestowitz-TR; expired now, IIRC
14:45 matey; https://www.quora.com/Why-are-most-touch-screens-made-of-glass-instead-of-plastic-like-laptop-screens?share=1
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14:45 TR Bot; are most touch screens made of glass instead of plastic like laptop screens? - Quora
14:45 activelow; it is awful nonetheless
14:45 matey; "Why are most touch screens made of glass instead of plastic like laptop screens?" It's just the outer layer of the display panel. Both contain both glass and plastic layers internally. The display itself must be glass, because both the liquid crystal material in LCD/TFT displ...
14:45 matey; "The display itself must be glass, because both the liquid crystal material in LCD/TFT"
14:45 matey; its a thin layer, not like a window pane
14:46 matey; definitely thick enough to feel the weight difference
14:46 schestowitz-TR; double-glazed screen :-
14:46 schestowitz-TR; to lock the heat inside :-)
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14:48 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Sudo Show, BSDNow, The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164242
14:48 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Sudo Show, BSDNow, The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) | Tux Machines
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14:52 TR News; Rockchip RK3566 SoC gets into $150 Anbernic RG503 gaming handheld with OLED display - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/28/rockchip-rk3566-soc-gets-into-150-anbernic-rg503-gaming-handheld-with-oled-display/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
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14:52 TR Bot; Rockchip RK3566 SoC gets into $150 Anbernic RG503 gaming handheld with OLED display - CNX Software
14:53 matey; i can see how esr is threatened by "communists"
14:53 matey; "The U.S. has a proud tradition of assimilating legal immigrants into a high-trust society, but it succeeds in this by making them non-diverse teaching them to assimilate folk values and blend in. Putnams work suggests strongly that without the ability to rate-limit immigration to be within some as yet undetermined maximum, the harm from erosion of trust would exceed the benefits of immigration."
14:53 matey; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7871
14:53 TR Bot; How elites are blind about immigration Armed and Dangerous
14:53 matey; in the soviet union-- not only under stalin, who made a mess of it
14:54 matey; they AMPLY refuted what esr is saying here
14:54 matey; masses were thrown together from every ethnicity AND culture
14:54 matey; and people were (for the most part, at least as much as as you see in the usa) friends
14:54 matey; "diversity" was no barrier at all
14:55 matey; you can see in this article, esr recognises that the same issues he talks about CAN BE resolved
14:55 matey; but only at a certain "rate" he says
14:55 matey; but that rate depends entirely on circumstances other than "different cultures" or "folk values" as he puts it
14:56 matey; in other words, he starts to debunk his own claim, he simply doesnt finish
14:56 matey; the soviet union, before its collapse, would have amply refuted what hes saying
14:56 matey; but since its communist, he would only shoot it, not learn anything.
14:56 matey; oh well
14:57 matey; again im not talking about under stalin, i mean after leaders started to listen to people complaining
14:57 schestowitz-TR; maybe he chats with soem bros at the shooting range
14:57 schestowitz-TR; and they tell him those things
14:57 matey; under stalin, there was a sort of coc like the lf one
14:57 matey; where you couldnt complain about anything because how dare you question authority, what are you, a nazi?
14:58 TR News; The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe is out now | GamingOnLinux <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-is-out-now/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
14:58 TR Bot; Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe is out now | GamingOnLinux
14:58 matey; when they did away with that a lot of people wanted to undo a lot of stalins more idiotic ideas about who should live where
14:58 matey; and some progress was made
14:58 TR News; Building and management sim Tavern Master comes to Linux | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/building-and-management-sim-tavern-master-comes-to-linux/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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14:58 TR Bot; and management sim Tavern Master comes to Linux | GamingOnLinux
14:59 matey; too bad stalin is in power again
14:59 TR News; "The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe from Crows Crows Crows is out now with Native Linux support and it's looking good." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-is-out-now/
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14:59 matey; and just as insane as ever before
14:59 matey; only no moustache this time
14:59 matey; and sometimes no shirt either
15:00 TR News; SteamOS 3.2 Beta brings a new Steam Deck Fan Curve, experimental Refresh Rate Switching | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steamos-32-beta-brings-a-new-steam-deck-fan-curve-experimental-refresh-rate-switching/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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15:00 TR Bot; 3.2 Beta brings a new Steam Deck Fan Curve, experimental Refresh Rate Switching | GamingOnLinux
15:00 schestowitz-TR; always short
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15:00 schestowitz-TR; not always a shirt
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15:02 matey; hes more like napoleon than hitler
15:02 matey; but even more like stalin
15:03 matey; actually, his ambitions are probably more like napoleons. but thats a guess
15:05 activelow; 99% of all "free software" systems (bsd, gnu) ship with microsoft/apple freetype for their X11, although it can be removed
15:06 TR News; PE needs to delete GitHub. Microsoft is competitor and foe, don't let Microsoft (criminals) control the project and code. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/proton-experimental-fixes-video-playback-in-ember-knights-ghostwire-tokyo-and-more/
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15:06 TR Bot; Experimental fixes video playback in Ember Knights, Ghostwire: Tokyo and more | GamingOnLinux
15:06 TR News; Hardware/Modding: Devices, CAD, and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164243
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15:06 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164244
15:06 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:07 TR News; Linux inside https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/28/khadas-vim4-review-part-1-unboxing-kit-assembly-and-first-boot-with-oowow/
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15:07 TR Bot; Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 1: Unboxing, kit assembly, and first boot with OOWOW - CNX Software
15:07 activelow; hitting another dependency of microsft freetype against ghostscript ... where it can be removed too, although it isn't optional in the build system anymore
15:08 activelow; that's why, bsd/gnu/linux whoever crying about microsoft, is somwheat amusing, given almost all gnu/linux with X11 depend on it, microsoft/apple font system
15:09 TR News; Games: Rockchip, The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, and Steam Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164245
15:09 TR Bot; Games: Rockchip, The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, and Steam | Tux Machines
15:10 schestowitz-TR; activelow: not as simple as you put it
15:10 schestowitz-TR; you could say the same about samba
15:10 schestowitz-TR; but smb originally came from ancient ibm, iirc
15:11 activelow; the standard is called CIFS btw.
15:11 activelow; and samba is easily removed
15:11 schestowitz-TR; I know
15:11 activelow; however, microsoft font system creeping deeply into gnu, this isn't easily coped with... although i got a solution for this problem now
15:11 schestowitz-TR; many things demand samba
15:11 schestowitz-TR; you can also remove font bits
15:11 matey; esr: "Lenin didnt understand that the puppets could be trained to love their motions so much that they would keep dancing after their strings were cut. And go on to recruits more puppets to the dance."
15:11 schestowitz-TR; and run without them
15:11 matey; im pretty sure lenin understood that just fine
15:11 schestowitz-TR; but fonts and protocol for files are different monsters
15:12 MinceR; not sure what's MICROS~1 or crApple about FreeType
15:12 schestowitz-TR; patwnts
15:12 schestowitz-TR; old software patents
15:12 MinceR; from what i can tell, it was started by an independent person, targeting OS/2
15:12 matey; that's why, bsd/gnu/linux whoever crying about microsoft, is somwheat amusing, given almost all gnu/linux with X11 depend on it <- i mean thats the whole fucking point though
15:12 MinceR; and crApple's patents were avoided until they expired
15:12 matey; given almost all gnu/linux with X11 depend on it <- that is the whole fucking point
15:13 matey; youre saying it like its some kind of revelation or "gotcha" in the whole thing
15:13 matey; it IS the whole thing.
15:13 matey; its not a gotcha at all
15:13 matey; also fuck you, a little
15:13 matey; bsd/gnu/linux whoever crying about microsoft <- yeah
15:14 matey; more like tired of
15:14 MinceR; i'm aware of two major scalable font formats, one owned by adobe and one owned by MICROS~1
15:14 MinceR; neither of them are good masters to have
15:14 MinceR; they seem to be working together on OpenType
15:14 matey; masters in general, are not good to have
15:14 MinceR; indeed
15:14 matey; though calling them mains doesnt fix anyhting :)
15:14 MinceR; but at least we appear to have free implementations
15:14 MinceR; (FreeType and free fonts)
15:14 activelow; bitmapped fonts have advantages too, and if used correctly, the visual result with bitmapped fonts is very good
15:15 MinceR; if you like aliasing
15:15 matey; i mean
15:15 activelow; bitmapped fonts need no scaling with aliasing
15:15 matey; okay just for fun...
15:15 MinceR; of course, while troubleshooting the windowing system, i don't mind aliasing, but in general use, i do
15:16 matey; we could have bitmapped fonts with anti-aliasing though
15:16 activelow; and i do not need vectorized/scalable fonts; what is required without scalable fonts is a correctly sized bitmap font for any desired encoding
15:16 matey; just not monochome ones
15:16 matey; i dont know if its ever been done
15:16 matey; you could literally just run the ttf, take a screenshot, divvy it up into individual images, and...
15:16 matey; voila, anti-aliased bitmap fonts
15:17 activelow; ^ exactly
15:17 matey; (obviously youd need a different library to display them or youd have to modify it)
15:17 MinceR; i suppose when you have some games put text together from bitmaps, those can sometimes be antialiased
15:17 MinceR; but there are limits to the practicality
15:17 matey; limits to the practicality is what this is all about :)
15:17 MinceR; they can't scale and the more of unicode you try to support, the worse it gets
15:18 matey; the more of unicode you try to support, the worse it gets <- that seems to be true no matter what method is used :/
15:18 matey; unicode is a fucking beast
15:18 MinceR; yeah, but to different extents
15:18 matey; not THE beast, but im sure the mark has a unicode point.
15:18 matey; but to different extents <- quite so
15:18 MinceR; also, i wonder how much disk space and how much memory would a reasonably complete unicode-supporting anti-aliased bitmap font take
15:19 activelow; besides the political implications, with microsoft freetype font system stuffed into almost every gnu/linux system; too scalable/vector fonts have disadvantages
15:19 matey; i mean, here you go, ascii has a 127, and debatably a 255
15:19 matey; but ascii has no 666. you need unicode for that :)
15:19 activelow; meaning, their processing (anti-aliasiang, hinting) is _slow_, it is expensive, even when it is not required if a correctly sized bitmap font for iso8859-15 exists
15:20 matey; and you cant buy or sell anything (online) without unicode, so OMG PROPHECIES WERE TRUE
15:21 matey; it is not required if a correctly sized bitmap font for iso8859-15 exists <- standards are industry bullshit! industry bullshit to the rescue
15:21 MinceR; iso8859-15 doesn't really cut it anymore
15:22 matey; iso8859-15 should be enough for anybody
15:22 MinceR; lol
15:22 activelow; didn't say this
15:22 MinceR; and all that processing did happen in a usable time frame on a rpi1 running a full screen terminal emulator on X
15:22 MinceR; so it seems practical enough
15:22 activelow; besides unicode is another concern, besides scalable vector fonts disadvantes
15:23 activelow; disadvantages
15:23 MinceR; i suppose one can cache rendered glyphs in the case of a terminal emulator though
15:23 matey; that would be interesting
15:23 matey; but ultimately only gnome would do it
15:23 matey; and then we would have two more operating systems installed to make up for the cache benefit.
15:23 matey; gnome: twice as fast!
15:24 matey; also gnome: 10x as slow!
15:24 activelow; all i noticed was this: cmatrix test case in terminal emulator, with freetype fonts this is hitting 100% cpu usage... wt****
15:24 activelow; in comparison, rxvt-2.7 with bitmapped fonts ... CPU usage 0% when cmatrix is active .... discuss
15:24 activelow; and the PCF font with rxvt-2.7 looks almost identical to the freetype one
15:25 matey; /me wonders why xterm still seems faster than rxvt
15:25 activelow; asynchronsous scrolling is helpful with speed too
15:25 matey; no way to test here, the only rxvt i can install easily is urxvt
15:25 matey; but when i made the comparison, i had rxvt too
15:26 matey; i have urxvt installed but thats not a fair comparison
15:26 activelow; urxvt is poisoned alread (and urxvt removed graphics support, not sure if this is what is necessary for sixel/regis vector graphics)
15:26 MinceR; 28 162339 < matey> and then we would have two more operating systems installed to make up for the cache benefit.
15:26 MinceR; not that sort of cache
15:26 matey; no i mean, this isnt a knock on the idea itself, just on gnome
15:26 MinceR; the sort of cache i had in mind is like this: you have freetype render, say, the letter 'a' for you once, then you put that bitmap in a cache
15:26 matey; because gnome would be the only people to bother actually developing such a thing
15:27 matey; no your idea is fine
15:27 matey; it would work
15:27 MinceR; probably rendered black on white or vice versa and you color it when you put it to screen
15:27 matey; but the only people interested in writing it would be gnome, because they love gimmicks
15:27 matey; then they would make it render twice as fast-- then add another mountiain of bloat to make up for it
15:27 MinceR; and when you run out of cache space, you discard the least recently used bitmap
15:27 matey; yes
15:27 matey; like i said, flawless
15:27 matey; it would work
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15:27 activelow; btw. the rxvt i got here was known to support CJK already... so what, in response to iso8859-15 for everyone
15:28 matey; but if gnome implemented it, it wouldnt :)
15:28 MinceR; :>
15:28 matey; thats the only caveat
15:28 MinceR; someone may have implemented it already
15:28 activelow; if you need hieroglyphs inside terminal emulator, then rxvt can do this too for you
15:28 TR News; Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164246
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15:28 matey; and gnome loves gimmicks so they would jump on the chance
15:28 TR News; New Tor and Move Towards Mastodon Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164248
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15:28 matey; <MinceR> someone may have implemented it already <- i almost wonder why we havent seen it already
15:29 matey; gnome is to performance what vw is... to performance
15:29 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal
15:29 TR Bot; Volkswagen emissions scandal - Wikipedia
15:30 matey; fine german (social) engineering
15:31 activelow; social engineering?
15:32 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal <- social engineering
15:33 *schestowitz-TR back to writing about belarus
15:34 matey; european protection (money) organisation
15:35 matey; or european patent racket, but thats a different acronym
15:35 schestowitz-TR; 'european'
15:35 schestowitz-TR; it's intl org
15:35 schestowitz-TR; not european at all
15:35 schestowitz-TR; like imf is international'
15:35 schestowitz-TR; you know who it exists for
15:36 matey; you can probably say the same for the eu
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15:36 TR Bot; Did I mention the hardcore?
15:37 matey; how to properly wear a harness
15:37 matey; wearing it improperly could result in injury
15:38 TR News; "I found myself without a job on short notice. I'm not at all worried about finding another one, I have savings, and I have experience, and I have demonstrable skill. What I am concerned about is finding a source of income that's compatible with putting some time on my personal projects." gemini://marginalia.nu/log/56-uncertain-future.gmi
15:39 TR News; Wiki projects and Gemini gemini://ainent.xyz/fiction/2022-04-27-dragonoid-chronicles-wiki-announcement.gmi
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15:43 matey; its like a rolex https://www.engrish.com/2021/05/hot-girl-power/
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15:43 TR Bot; Hot Girl Power
15:43 matey; or it would be hilarious if you listen to it and its just some j-pop band doing covers
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15:44 MinceR; :)
15:44 matey; they did this with the beatles A LOT
15:45 matey; like there were countless beatles knockoffs-- youd find records by bands with names like "the mop tops"
15:45 matey; sometimes it would be nameless musicians doing beatles covers
15:45 matey; other times it would be random crap with a band simply named and/or dressed in a way to make you think it could be a beatles record
15:46 matey; "the fab four" was another one-- anything they nicknamed the beatles, there would be a band with that name, on an album
15:47 matey; this was before tribute bands were a factor
15:47 MinceR; was there one called "beatless"? :>
15:48 matey; i think quite a few of them were beatless
15:48 matey; without ringo theyd be beatless
15:49 matey; a different kind of beatles ripoff https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8pfJRTU6J1s
15:49 TR Bot; 10 Beatles Hits That 'Rip Off' Other Songs - Invidious
15:51 matey; "the beatoos"
15:51 matey; i think hes got that jonathan ross thing
15:53 matey; wow, i didnt know about these
15:55 matey; okay but the opening of "revolution" is the same 2 notes 36 times...
15:56 matey; if you can copyright that, someone needs to die
15:56 matey; /me realises plagiarism != copyright
15:57 matey; but its the same 2 notes 36 times! you might as well say "do do do do do do do do do
15:57 matey; is plagiarism
15:57 matey; "once upon a time" "YOU STOLE THAT!"
15:57 matey; "the end?" "OMG"
15:58 matey; "and they lived..." *lawyer on speed dial*
15:59 matey; to be fair the person who made the video doesnt think its plagiarism either (the 36 same note one)
16:00 matey; watch your step vs i feel fine is interesting
16:00 matey; rolling stones did the same thing, then later sued the verve for doing it too
16:00 matey; /me stopped listening to them, fuck mick jagger
16:03 matey; and lol, the guy the beatles ripped off had already ripped off dizzy gillespie first :)
16:03 matey; same song. but i think the ripoff was a little more creative
16:04 matey; musicians do this constantly
16:04 matey; before the record industry was a thing, this is how music was made
16:04 matey; if its original, its incidental
16:05 matey; lez zeppelin (notorious for this) used part of the same song
16:06 matey; folk music will reuse an entire tune, like weird al does
16:06 matey; jazz and blues will reuse parts
16:08 matey; "they wanted me to sue them but i told them not to be so stupid. you cant copyright a rhythm and the rhythm was all theyd used. anyway, wed borroed it from dan burley"-- humphrey lyttelton
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16:16 SomeH4x0r; hi
16:16 matey; hi
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16:16 activelow; given the situation with unicode, font systems, this is yet another reason, to re-iterate over virtual terminals, and which one to pick
16:17 SomeH4x0r; oh, it was just a connection glitch
16:17 activelow; certainly i'll keep the two decades old rxvt-2.7, and i will try to hack suckless simple terminal to support X11/PCF bitmapped fonts without miscrosoft fontconfig/freetype
16:17 matey; /me thinks unicode is an extremely useful feature, even if the worst thing you can do is make it mandatory
16:18 activelow; it isn't entirely clear what you are referring to with unicode
16:18 activelow; the transfer format? the font system?
16:18 activelow; of cause i will take care, unicode can be coped with, yet i'll try to without microsoft/apple truetype involved
16:19 matey; the ability to use a number higher than 255 and get text out of it.
16:19 matey; and fontconfig isnt microsoft, its ibm https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig
16:19 TR Bot; fontconfig / fontconfig GitLab
16:19 activelow; with a non-unicode terminal, any type of document must map a character set into ~190 max glyphs available, yes... which is good enough for me
16:20 matey; why 190 max
16:20 activelow; i am referring to linux framebuffer console and their PSF font system
16:20 matey; in the 80s you could get (bitmapped fonts) nearly 255 characters
16:20 activelow; some codepoints aren't used for fonts,
16:21 matey; i mean ascii 7, which is audible, had a little circle
16:21 activelow; even in the 80s it was possible to use more than 255 characters, this requires swapping the codepage
16:21 matey; i mean within codepage 437 mostly
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16:22 matey; otherwise ascii 1 is just a control character
16:22 matey; in codepage 437 its an ancient emoji
16:22 matey; a premoji :)
16:22 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/QuO6PwV.mp4
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16:25 matey; freetype is also ibm. they moved from savannah to gitlab in 2021, and kept the former as a mirror
16:25 matey; this was in january, before stallman announced his return months later
16:25 matey; We are now using the infrastructure of the gitlab instance of freedesktop.org. All bug issues have been imported (kudos to Anurag Thakur for doing this tedious job!), together with the git repositories, which have been renamed to freetype and freetype-demos (this is, we are dropping the 2 in the repository names).
16:26 matey; The git repositories at Savannah will stay as mirrors.https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freetype
16:26 TR Bot; FreeType GitLab
16:26 matey; so both fontconfig/freetype are ibm, not microsoft
16:27 matey; ah, but
16:28 matey; for 8 years freetype has used harfbuzz i guess
16:28 matey; thats microsoft
16:28 matey; join us now, at ibm and microsoft
16:28 matey; code for free, hackers
16:28 matey; code for free
16:28 matey; when ibm and microsoft has enough free software
16:29 matey; that we wrote, hackers, that we wrote
16:29 matey; we will kick out richard stallman
16:29 matey; evermore, hackers, evermore
16:30 matey; its like when mozart wrote his own requiem
16:30 *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has joined #techrights
16:31 matey; "the free software song for organ in d minor"
16:31 activelow; nice overview, what linux PSF font system is capable of, even without unicode
16:31 activelow; https://www.zap.org.au/projects/console-fonts-zap/
16:31 TR Bot; Linux Console Fonts - The ZAP Group
16:31 matey; "by 'in d minor...'"
16:31 matey; "no, not like that"
16:32 MinceR; Death in D Minor
16:32 matey; rule #1: dont put organ in d minor.
16:32 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVwjjf9Djc
16:32 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ABVwjjf9Djc
16:32 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ABVwjjf9Djc )
16:32 matey; rule #2: dont debate putting organ in d minor in d e-mail.
16:35 matey; rule #3: dont visit microsoft while bill gates is visiting jeff epstein
16:35 matey; jeff epstein: the first rule about flight club is, you do not talk about flight club
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16:41 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part VI: Big Daddy Hammers the Opposition | Techrights
16:42 matey; interesting https://www.zap.org.au/projects/console-fonts-zap/
16:44 bnchs__; rule #0: don't watch clippers owner's victory thigh rub
16:44 matey; don't watch clippers owner's victory thigh rub <- that was pretty weird
16:46 matey; maybe someone should explain that he owns the team, not the players
16:46 matey; or maybe theyre just REALLY close friends of his :)
16:46 matey; "they rub my thighs too whenever my stocks go up"
16:46 matey; "oh well, i mean if theres consent then sure"
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16:48 bnchs__; " In April 2003 he even interrupted his skiing holiday in Switzerland to personally plead with the mayor of Munich not to switch to Linux."
16:48 bnchs__; yay i'm gonna go skiing!!!
16:48 matey; he should ski more.
16:48 bnchs__; LINUx ALERT LINUX ALERT
16:48 matey; like sonny bono.
16:48 bnchs__; OH NOOO BETTER ACT!!
16:48 matey; to the BALLMOBILE!
16:50 bnchs__; "pretty please don't switch to liunx!!!!"
16:50 bnchs__; "i need you!!"
16:50 MinceR; 28 173500 < matey> rule #3: dont visit microsoft while bill gates is visiting jeff epstein
16:50 MinceR; how can you tell he's visiting jeff epstein though?
16:50 matey; linux could lead to google, and that could lead to dancing.
16:51 matey; <MinceR> how can you tell he's visiting jeff epstein though? <- its not a very useful rule, and the media makes everything worse
16:51 matey; the media is always there to say why we need to get involved in illegal wars and kill iraqis to get back at saudi arabia.
16:51 matey; saudi arabia: "you missed!"
16:51 bnchs__; "But he did not succeed with this and Munich switched to LiMux, despite his offering a 35% discount at his lobbying visi"
16:52 matey; soldiers: "thanks! *shoots another iraqi*"
16:52 bnchs__; MISSION FAILED, WE'LL GET THEM NEXT TIME
16:54 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sZqVUjziexk
16:54 TR Bot; Next time Gadget - Invidious
16:55 bnchs__; steve has linux rent-free in his head
16:55 bnchs__; he has to interrupt his skiing holiday because a city decided to make their own linux distribution for the gov
16:55 matey; no, he gets royalties from android while he fucking kills google
16:56 matey; so its not rent-free, they pay rent
16:56 matey; because a city decided to make their own linux distribution for the gov <- nobody messes with microsoft and gets away with it!
16:57 MinceR; MICROS~1 is among the owners of Linux now
16:57 MinceR; https://linuxfoundation.org/our-members-are-our-superpower-2/
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16:57 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Members - Linux Foundation
16:58 MinceR; they even got Linux to merge some of their incredibly poor quality code
16:58 matey; i love the megatron is based on barry white
16:59 matey; that
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 362.43
16:59 matey; or so he says
16:59 matey; dr claw too
17:00 MinceR; "Not The Craw! The Craw!"
17:02 matey; would you believe, two craws?
17:02 matey; sorry about that chief
17:03 bnchs__; matey: lol
17:03 bnchs__; but really
17:03 bnchs__; steve ballmer coming to beg munich to not switch to linux
17:03 bnchs__; and even offering a 35% discount
17:03 bnchs__; seems pathetic
17:03 matey; i never thought chrissie hynde was sexy until i realised shes basically 99 without the eating disorder
17:04 matey; <bnchs__> seems pathetic <- the word youre looking for is desperate, but obsessed and contrived also apply
17:04 matey; also greedy
17:04 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgAG3Vnif8
17:04 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ftgAG3Vnif8
17:04 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=ftgAG3Vnif8 )
17:04 bnchs__; he was so desperate that i's pathetic
17:04 bnchs__; it's*
17:05 matey; oh mickey rooney you old racist
17:06 matey; "lefty?"
17:07 matey; "all americans look alike to us" XD
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17:07 matey; what a great show
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17:11 bnchs__; i just looked at an average clownflare headers
17:11 bnchs__; "permissions-policy
17:11 bnchs__; accelerometer=(),autoplay=(),camera=(),clipboard-read=(),clipboard-write=(),fullscreen=(),geolocation=(),gyroscope=(),hid=(),interest-cohort=(),magnetometer=(),microphone=(),payment=(),publickey-credentials-get=(),screen-wake-lock=(),serial=(),sync-xhr=(),usb=()"
17:11 bnchs__; wtf is payment
17:12 bnchs__; does clownflare use your bank account for payment?
17:12 activelow; regis vector graphics, sixels... why bother; adobe postscript, IBM Mapple freetype, SGI OpenGL we got instead, as "free software"
17:12 matey; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3223003/Why-did-Chrissie-Hynde-date-one-Hells-Angels-raped-her.html
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17:12 TR Bot; Chrissie Hynde dated the Hells Angels who raped her and then blamed herself for the attack | Daily Mail Online
17:12 matey; "She enraged feminists by blaming herself for the attack."
17:13 bnchs__; activelow, for the last time, opengl is a api standard
17:13 matey; whats the point of fighting abuse if you dont fucking understand it?
17:13 bnchs__; not software
17:13 bnchs__; you can implement a OpenGL API frontend for a software framebuffer driver
17:13 matey; victims often blame themselves, its part of the victimisation
17:14 matey; blaming the victim for blaming themseles is just another level of stupidity
17:14 activelow; bnchs__: i do not want such an API, nor any implementation of it (mesa/libdrm together with apple llvm)
17:14 MinceR; activelow: so, is DEC/Compaq/HP sixel better, then? :>
17:14 bnchs__; well that's up to you
17:15 bnchs__; but don't assume opengl is a software
17:15 bnchs__; or blame it for mesa issues
17:15 activelow; MinceR: sixel and regis were substantial for a fully capable unix tty... yet aren't available anymore
17:15 matey; DEC/Compaq/HP sixel <- i just blame satan, its easier
17:15 MinceR; :>
17:16 MinceR; and IRIX wasn't Unix? :>
17:17 matey; seven years of systemd, six sixels displaying, five mains a forking
17:17 MinceR; :>
17:17 bnchs__; blaming the specification for the implementation
17:18 matey; if theyre from the same people, sure
17:18 matey; if
17:18 *psydruid even compiled GNU for IRIX on his SGI Origin 2000 before trying to get GNU/Linux running on it
17:18 bnchs__; SGI didn't make mesa
17:18 matey; okay
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17:19 matey; sometimes the spec is at fault, i dont know (probably not) if its to blame here
17:19 activelow; https://linuxreviews.org/Notcurses
17:19 TR Bot; Notcurses - LinuxReviews
17:19 matey; i suspect it would help if sgi was german
17:19 bnchs__; he blames SGI for mesa having microsoft crap
17:19 matey; some german infrastructure (sgi)
17:19 bnchs__; SGI was long bankrupt before microsoft took over mesa
17:20 matey; he blames SGI for mesa having microsoft crap <- he seems to think that attributing things to ibm and microsoft is some kind of pantomime rather than talking about who owns / controls / actually funds things
17:20 matey; SGI was long bankrupt before microsoft took over mesa <- right
17:21 matey; like blaming abraham lincoln for the faults of the town car
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17:31 psydruid; if SGI had built its business on Z80 hardware and ScimitarOS, it would probably still be around
17:31 MinceR; ScimitarOS?
17:32 psydruid; the precursor to GuillotineOS
17:34 matey; id only quibble with the name out of personal preference
17:34 matey; firingsquados
17:34 matey; its a quibble, its not meaningful
17:36 MinceR; :)
17:37 matey; incidently esr is the worst cherry picker historian ive ever seen
17:37 MinceR; BFSOS
17:38 matey; his ability to go through a (paper) encyclopedias worth of history, and find only what supports his narrative, without caveats
17:38 matey; makes every article on wikipedia look like a phd thesis by comparison
17:38 matey; he acts like rms is obsessed and single-minded, and he isnt
17:39 matey; if rms is autistic, esr is just psycho
17:39 matey; but im not sure whether hes "a little" psycho or a lot
17:40 matey; i dont think hes ever killed someone, so probably just a "little" bit psycho
17:40 matey; and yes, quotes needed
17:41 matey; hes either batshit or on the verge of batshit
17:42 matey; its funny because, ive never met anyone who cant tell the actual difference between life and video games
17:42 matey; yet here is esr... and hes the closest ive seen to that
17:43 MinceR; the leaders of the ICRC are like that too
17:43 MinceR; they practiced outragism against "war crimes" committed in video games
17:46 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Johnnie-Worker.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/12/the-only-thing-not-messed-up-is-the-red-lab-er-never-mind/ )
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17:46 TR Bot; The only thing not messed up is the Red Lab, er never mind
17:47 bnchs__; red hat
17:47 bnchs__; red lab
17:50 activelow; meanwhile, got all conflicts and broken dependencies resolved now, and IBM Mapple freetype fully removed
17:51 matey; if you just say giafam youre going to be right 99% of the time
17:51 matey; wget has a dependency from facebook, on github
17:52 matey; wget is significant because openbsd has no tool (that i know of) to do what wget does
17:52 matey; its either curl or wget
17:52 matey; curl is github based, wgets gnu developer develops part of wget on github
17:53 matey; and pulls in a dep from facebooks github repo
17:53 matey; which is probably a great compression algorithm but id like to remove it anyway
17:53 activelow; i do not exclude software based on their vendor, first i verify technical qualities of it
17:55 matey; i do not exclude software based on their vendor, first i verify technical qualities of it <- then when you rely on projects that get killed off or corrupted by microsoft, you can tell people you ignored those warnings and listened to the inane babbling of "open source" and its "technical merit" bullshit
17:55 matey; meanwhile you attribute things to microsoft they have zero involvement with even in hosting
17:55 matey; in short, arbitrary bullshit
17:55 matey; but thats open source.
17:56 matey; not everything you do or conclude is like that
17:57 matey; step one, make decisions based on whatever
17:57 matey; step two, attribute to "
17:57 matey; technical merit"
17:57 matey; piece of cake. industry standard, really.
17:58 matey; some of it at least, is about technical merit
17:58 matey; but that doesnt stop people from using it as a placeholder phrase for absolutely whatever
17:58 matey; which is why its if interest to open source
17:58 matey; we can worry about meaning later. for now, WORDS!
17:58 matey; words that sound like the mean something
18:01 matey; at this rate it will come down to whether buckles on shoes are absolutely necessary or cannot in all possible worlds be tolerated, void of any context
18:01 matey; at least it isnt all like that
18:02 psydruid; WeaselwordOS
18:02 matey; citationneededos
18:03 matey; some of the worst mistakes stallman ever made were of this variety
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18:09 DaemonFC; My mom was talking about how eccentric rich people are.
18:10 DaemonFC; I said, "Most of those eccentricities are just all about how they feel they own and are entitled to everything. It even bubbles up in small ways, like your friend's dad who was a millionaire from IBM and Coca Cola investments. And when he died, his kids were finding kitchen cabinets with thousands of ketchup packets he would pocket at McDonalds.".
18:12 DaemonFC; Even now, you can buy 64 ounces of ketchup for $2.92. And that's about 200 packets of ketchup? More maybe?
18:12 DaemonFC; So the guy had millions of dollars and would steal $1 worth of ketchup from McDonalds just to get away with it.
18:13 matey; Even now, you can buy 64 ounces of ketchup for $2.92. <- without hfcs? because i wont open most packets now, most brands contain unnecessary "sugar"
18:13 matey; id rather use hot sauce than ketchup with hfcs (even if ketchup is more delicious on chips for example)
18:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, Mom got a really CLEAN Buick off his daughter though. A 1968 Skylark convertible, bright red. No scratches, no rust. She only wanted $300 and it only had 25,000 miles on it.
18:13 DaemonFC; https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7R18wDCk--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_900,q_80,w_1600/18s455a7hmghejpg.jpg
18:14 DaemonFC; Looked like this.
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18:14 DaemonFC; Only the paint was like fire engine red.
18:14 DaemonFC; I think he may have even had it redone with a clear coat.
18:14 DaemonFC; I mean it was SHARP.
18:14 DaemonFC; And mom had to sell it again because my dad was controlling her money and wouldn't give her enough to get the plates.
18:15 matey; we had someone like that in our family
18:15 matey; i never got to thank him for dying
18:15 DaemonFC; I told her "For me, that would have been the last straw. You know, 'I always wanted one of these and now it's mine!' and then some domineering husband won't even give me $50 of my own money to plate it.".
18:16 DaemonFC; Oh these old cars are great.
18:16 DaemonFC; YOu don't have to get them emissions tested. They're really fast because there's no pollution control nonsense on there putting back pressure on the engine or poisoning it with its own exhaust.
18:17 DaemonFC; There's almost no electronics, and what there are are very simple. Simple enough to operate with glass fuses.
18:17 DaemonFC; Your carburetor goes out, you can get a brand new one for $50. Your generator goes out. $50. You can do it yourself with some simple tools. It's all right there.
18:18 matey; but now that cars have systemd, its a different story
18:18 DaemonFC; My former pediatrician still drives 1970s Lincolns.
18:18 DaemonFC; She's still working, in her 90s.
18:18 DaemonFC; And she still drives 1970s Lincolns that look like they just came out of the factory.
18:19 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=868DSi85odQ
18:19 TR Bot; Hot Rod Lincoln - Invidious
18:19 DaemonFC; Her husband bought like 7 of them and he's a mechanic and got all the rust off of them.
18:19 DaemonFC; You have a husband like that and you'll never have too many car problems. He's out there all the time working on the cars just to do it.
18:20 DaemonFC; matey, I did the best I could when I bought that Buick. I'm having it rust repaired next week, but it's nothing terrible.
18:20 DaemonFC; For what I paid, you see them with so much rust on the body that you just give up and drive the car for as long as you can.
18:21 DaemonFC; But all of the rust on this thing is either on removable panels that you can just toss and replace or slight cosmetic touch up and it's gone.
18:21 DaemonFC; So it's getting new fenders and rocker panel.
18:21 DaemonFC; And then I don't need to worry about rust again for a nice long time.
18:22 DaemonFC; The fenders are pretty cheap as aftermarket parts. The part that gets you is paint and blend.
18:22 DaemonFC; There's some labor there so it's like 2/3rds of that job.
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18:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Dad said that he would like to meet me, but his wife is scared of me. (Which is bullshit.) Also, that he stopped listening to Rush Limbaugh over NAFTA.
18:35 DaemonFC; I replied: Jan isn't scared. She's just so domineering of you and pompous and self-absorbed that she can't tolerate you doing anything that she doesn't sign off on and since she was barren she doesn't want to entertain the idea of having your kids around. Not that you're a lot better. You tried to cancel insurance that wasn't costing you anything on me and Collin, so, for example, I would have to suffer terribly from painful wisdom teeth that I
18:35 DaemonFC; would not have been able to afford to extract for a while, so my mother had to schedule me in one day before my birthday to get all four of them out and beat your petty nonsense by one day. How do you even look at yourself?
18:35 DaemonFC; You know what Gustavo Fring said in Breaking Bad, right? To Walter. He said "A man provides for his family. Do you know what kind of man does not provide for his family? Not a man.". Mexican culture tends to be like that, to where even a drug lord would be repulsed by a man who takes things out on his own children to try to settle a score with his ex wife.
18:35 DaemonFC; I got the Internet connection myself. I didn't have any money for it but there was tulip mania in the DotCom market and they had the idea of free ad supported ISPs. So that's what I grabbed and used. Eventually I figured out how to crash the ad bar and later how to unscramble my password and bypass their software to dial out.
18:35 DaemonFC; It's weird that you stopped listening to Limbaugh over NAFTA but you backed Trump when he expanded it and bought a Chevy Equinox that is 100% Mexican on the Country of Origin Label due to Trump NAFTA. Also, the dairy farmers in Wisconsin who are committing suicide over cheap milk dumped from Canada would like a word with you, Mr. Farmer. Trump lost because he lost. The people up there may not like Biden but they know where Trump sent their job
18:35 DaemonFC; to. They're not all that stupid.
18:38 DaemonFC; Addendum: The only significant pushback to Trump NAFTA was from the Democratic Party. It split the party down the middle in Congress. I think every Republican voted for it, and if they didn't, then it was nearly unanimous. There are at least a few Democrats who care what happens to our agriculture and auto industries.
18:39 DaemonFC; ---
18:39 DaemonFC; I'm not in opposition to trade agreements, but NAFTA was predatory and Trump made it worse.
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18:41 DaemonFC; Threatening to remove us from NAFTA initially got my attention and increased my support of Donald Trump on that issue until I saw where he really went with it and was thoroughly disgusted. Ripping up NAFTA is not even comparable to a Brexit, which was terribly stupid and a self-inflicted gunshot wound. We would have reverted to the tariffs schedule on Mexico as it existed in 1994 and the United States-Canada Free Trade Agreement.
18:41 DaemonFC; The UK was never attached to a third world economy with no environmental or labor laws through the European Union common trade zone like we are with Mexico through NAFTA.
18:42 DaemonFC; So the EU actually was promoting efficiency in the trade bloc, and with Brexit, the UK has lost more jobs and consumers have had to pay more in taxes (tariffs) and it has slowed down their economy badly. Combined with COVID, it's damned near dead.
18:43 DaemonFC; And now that Johnson has succeeded in breaking the working class, he goes where they all do after that. Stoke racial tensions, gets the poor to blame the poorer.
18:44 DaemonFC; And so you have the "policing bill" and you had the "restaurant scheme" during COVID that even Roy said was the dumbest thing he'd ever seen but since there was a perverse incentive, he went for it like any rational person would.
18:45 DaemonFC; Illinois decided to put up all of the homeless in hotels to make it look like "not a hotel bailout package". I mean, the optics of empty hotel rooms with a bailout bill would have been too much.
18:46 DaemonFC; So the state actually almost caused _us_ to go homeless because I was paying monthy rates to stay in a motel by the highway and once the state enacted that program, the manager decided to raise the monthly rate by 30% overnight to soak the government, and that's when I got up and said "No matter what I have to do, we're finding an apartment.".
18:46 DaemonFC; *monthly
18:47 DaemonFC; And now that there's "no emergency", and everyone who died of COVID died of COVID despite the government tyranny.... No more housing for the homeless.
18:47 DaemonFC; Beat it. Get a job!
18:48 DaemonFC; The government only did this so it could "reform" the economy in ways that nobody would have accepted otherwise and flex its "we're the government and we will do anything we want" muscles like it does every couple decades to remind you all who daddy is.
18:48 DaemonFC; And then everyone who was going to die of COVID died of COVID anyway.
18:49 DaemonFC; People from San Francisco don't "get it".
18:49 DaemonFC; mjg59_ and jwz don't get it.
18:49 DaemonFC; You can tell from their comments about "COVID" that they just don't get what is happening, or part of them does and they just like not having any freedoms and so they're cheering a police state.
18:50 DaemonFC; I am too old for this bullshit already, and I'm not even 40 yet.
18:50 DaemonFC; So obviously I've matured faster.
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 356.58
18:59 matey; I'm not in opposition to trade agreements, but NAFTA was predatory and Trump made it worse. <- nafta is to the usa what the eu is to europe
18:59 matey; something that is sold as benefitting someone other than corporations-- but of course, isnt
19:00 matey; and everyone who sees that is accused of racism, even though lol it wasnt clinton that wanted it this time, was it
19:00 matey; the EU actually was promoting efficiency in the trade bloc <- i mean all the predatory laws like what they wanted to do / did to the internet
19:00 DaemonFC; MinceR alluded to maybe Hungary being the closest thing to a Mexico they have.
19:01 DaemonFC; They send all the car manufacturing to Hungary but I doubt Hungary is as bad as Mexico is.
19:01 matey; give it time
19:01 DaemonFC; Thousands of people being murdered each year in a drug war due to a government whose police are all on the take and doesn't control anything.
19:02 matey; how many thousands?
19:02 matey; i mean i dont want to move there, just asking
19:02 DaemonFC; The figures I've seen say perhaps 6,000-8,000 people murdered every year for either being in the way or cartel-military clashes.
19:02 DaemonFC; It's bad.
19:02 matey; 6000-8000 is definitely bad, its like 2 9/11s every year
19:02 DaemonFC; I think it has gotten up over 10,000 before.
19:03 matey; but these days that seems small
19:03 DaemonFC; There's very little law and order in Mexico.
19:03 DaemonFC; There's lots of kidnappings even in the middle of their capitol city.
19:03 matey; thats bad
19:03 DaemonFC; If you're an American there's basically only a few places you can go where you'll be safe.
19:04 DaemonFC; The government concentrates their ability to enforce rule of law on a few vacation spots and manufacturing zones that get visited by tourists and businessmen.
19:05 matey; id actually want a second opinion from mjg since he lived in northern ireland
19:05 DaemonFC; Most of the people in Mexico are drinking Coca Cola instead of water because the water is poisonous and kills you now, but the Coke plant filters the water to turn it into Coke.
19:05 DaemonFC; So it kills you later. :)
19:06 DaemonFC; The Libertarian Party doesn't particularly like ICE or USCIS.
19:06 matey; i havent found many libertarians
19:06 DaemonFC; The position is that anyone who isn't causing harm to a US citizen and plans to support themselves should be allowed to live here.
19:07 matey; i dont mean in terms of voting
19:07 matey; i mean in equally important ways
19:07 matey; i mean among libertarians, i havent found many libertarians
19:07 matey; or maybe i was looking for left libertarians, i dont know
19:07 DaemonFC; Well, it's hard to do that because the elections are jacked up so only two parties can win.
19:07 matey; oh i know that
19:08 DaemonFC; And so social libertarians tend to vote for Democrats they don't like.
19:08 matey; thats too obvious
19:08 DaemonFC; While fiscal libertarians tend to vote for Republicans they don't like.
19:08 matey; yeah people like that are exactly what i wanted to get away from
19:08 DaemonFC; And the actual Libertarian Party only gets like 1-2% of the vote.
19:08 matey; its not a real democracy
19:09 DaemonFC; This whole pigfuck with the Pritzker Administration has me seriously wondering how I'll vote this year.
19:09 DaemonFC; I already requested a Republican primary ballot so that I can vote for Richard Irvin for Governor of Illinois.
19:09 DaemonFC; And if he doesn't win, I guess I'll just vote for the Libertarian candidate.
19:10 DaemonFC; It's weird because there's a lot of deep blue states that get Republican governors.
19:10 DaemonFC; So it's not out of the realm of possibility that it can happen in Illinois.
19:10 DaemonFC; It does happen sometimes.
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19:10 DaemonFC; The only reason Pritzker "won" is because Bruce Rauner blew it so badly as Governor, and he managed to sign off on laws that he didn't have to that damaged him with his own party.
19:11 DaemonFC; When he could have either vetoed them and been overruled or allow them to become law a week later without his signature.
19:11 DaemonFC; So it was like a comedy of unforced errors.
19:11 DaemonFC; And it was just so bizarre.
19:12 DaemonFC; Like, he should have vetoed it and said "I tried but there were so many Democrats in the legislature that I couldn't stop it. We have checks and balances and I am not the entire government. I tried.".
19:13 matey; right?
19:13 DaemonFC; It would be better than tossing his hands in the air and letting Jeanne Ives run attack ads that split the party in half.
19:13 activelow; surprise: build-time failure of adobe ghostscript-gpl without mapple freetype available, although ghostscript got a configure switch to remove freetype
19:13 activelow; ^ "free software"
19:13 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/new-human-board.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/01/human-board-is-made-of-people/ )
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19:13 TR Bot; Human Board is made of PEOPLE!
19:14 DaemonFC; Geico: Your cornering isn't so good.
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19:14 DaemonFC; Me: "You know what else sucks? Slowing down to 5 miles an hour and pissing EVERYONE off so your stinking app can say I'm cornering like a lunatic."
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19:15 DaemonFC; Then again, some parts are good. I have a perfect score on hard braking and not using my phone while driving.
19:16 mjg59_; matey: The worst year of the troubles was 479 deaths, which per-capita was far worse than Mexico is now
19:16 matey; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/new-human-board.jpg https://www.fsf.org/about/board-of-directors-code-of-ethics
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19:16 TR Bot; Board of Directors Code of Ethics Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
19:17 matey; surprise: build-time failure of adobe ghostscript-gpl without mapple freetype available, although ghostscript <- you do need a font renderer to render fonts, yes
19:17 matey; considering what freetype and ghostscript are, this doesnt seem frivolous
19:18 matey; Then again, some parts are good. I have a perfect score on hard braking and not using my phone while driving. <- im not the least bit comfortable with that level of surveillance
19:19 matey; im not inserting a probe for my health insurance either
19:19 matey; "just keep this sensor array in your arse for a few weeks while we monitor your daily habits" no
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19:42 DaemonFC; I told my dad: "You're about as stable as Johnny Depp's ex-wife. She too showed up to court to perjure herself and nobody bought what she was selling. Anyway, what kind of a sick person tells a 15 year old they'll be dead of AIDS in a few years because they're gay? Guess what, moron. I'm almost 40 and still perfectly fine. Just another one of your lies. Maybe you need to get more medication. You've made it your life's mission to be so mean that
19:42 DaemonFC; the only person who won't leave you is Jan, because she can't. Chew on that."
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19:43 MinceR; (fox) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrSdiqp0Dpk
19:43 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=nrSdiqp0Dpk
19:43 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Fox Village in Japan: The Fluffiest Place on Earth! (Miyagi Zao, Shiroishi) - Invidious
19:51 activelow; with sixel support, various text browser such as links didn't need special support for framebuffer... illustrations could be plotted into virtual terminal, not the framebuffer
19:51 activelow; that's an important difference, and too it points to conceptual problems of adobe ghostscript with mapple freetype fonts
19:53 activelow; and such type of products and standards, were pushed for commercial interests
19:53 activelow; soon i'll review some TeX related, and what happened there, with which formats...
19:54 activelow; to see, what remains without malicious contributors from ibm, apple, microsoft, adobe etc.
19:57 activelow; and mapple freetype is _not_ necessary to output fonts such as linux PSF ones or X11 PCF
19:58 activelow; stumbled upon another minor build-time breakage against removed freetype within X11, which is fixed already... and i am absolutely certain i will see fonts in X11
19:58 activelow; without any of the non-free malicious components
20:02 activelow; and it is noteworthy still, "free software" terminal emulators got no ReGIS vector graphics nor sixel support
20:03 psydruid; https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/28/rockchip-rk3566-soc-gets-into-150-anbernic-rg503-gaming-handheld-with-oled-display/
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20:10 TR News; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Beta is out and is ready to take your servers to new heights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164252
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20:37 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/jN1JrA2
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20:47 TR Bot; Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights
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20:50 TR News; Like the EPO in Munich, the Batka of Belarus does not tolerate questioning or dissent; elections are moreover rigged or "fixed"; today we look at the Battistelli of Belarus as this sheds light on where the EPO is sending business via shells and proxies of course http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/belarus-opposition/
20:50 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part VI: Big Daddy Hammers the Opposition | Techrights
20:51 TR News; Management of the EPO behaves a lot like Lukashenko in Belarus; today weve looked at how Lukashenko thwarted perceived threats vying to end his 28-year reign in a democratic fashion http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/reign-of-lukashenko-in-belarus/
20:51 TR News; There are arguments that are worth correcting; following straw man arguments from Lunduke about the Linux Foundations involvement in vaccine passports [1, 2] we now see a number of similar claims about OSI and Mozilla. I respond in video form. http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/
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20:57 TR News; How Raspberry Pi Detects Malware Using Electromagnetic Waves https://linuxhint.com/raspberry-pi-detect-malware/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
20:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/raspberry-pi-detect-malware/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxhint.com/raspberry-pi-detect-malware/
20:57 TR Bot; How Raspberry Pi Detects Malware Using Electromagnetic Waves
20:58 bnchs__; "Detects Malware Using Electromagnetic Waves"
20:58 bnchs__; sounds interesting and retarded at the same time
20:58 bnchs__; must read
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 312.86
20:59 bnchs__; the article says little info about how it does it
20:59 bnchs__; it's probably a bunch of bullshit
21:00 TR News; GitHub is malware and surveillance by criminals. Don't follow advice like this... https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-github-desktop-on-pop_os-22-04-lts/
21:00 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxcapable.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-github-desktop-on-pop_os-22-04-lts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-github-desktop-on-pop_os-22-04-lts/
21:00 TR Bot; to Install GitHub Desktop on Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS - LinuxCapable
21:02 TR News; More malware pushed to GNU/Linux users. This one gets root. Microsoft compromises your GNU/Linux box. https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
21:02 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxcapable.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-skype-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
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21:02 TR Bot; to Install Skype on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - LinuxCapable
21:06 schestowitz-TR; bnchs__: it did sound off
21:06 schestowitz-TR; *odd
21:12 TR News; Toyota keeps donating to Republicans who supported the coup attempt. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/toyota-keeps-donating-to-republicans-who-supported-the-coup-attempt/ Source: baronhk
21:12 TR Bot; Toyota keeps donating to Republicans who supported the coup attempt. BaronHK's Rants
21:13 TR News; Bullshit. This helps Gulag lie. They collect the data, pass it on, then let you hide it from yourself, not the government etc. https://www.maketecheasier.com/google-remove-personal-information-from-search/
21:13 TR Bot; Google Now Allows You to Remove Personal Information from Search - Make Tech Easier
21:14 TR News; Microsoft is largely responsible for the Russian attacks on Ukraine's tech side. But Bruce Schneier helps Microsoft lies about the whole thing. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/microsoft-issues-report-of-russian-cyberattacks-against-ukraine.html
21:14 TR Bot; Issues Report of Russian Cyberattacks against Ukraine - Schneier on Security
21:17 TR News; Microsoft puts back doors in things and has actively exploited zero-day flaws; so it seems to have weaponised the media to libel "Linux" and distract from Microsoft's culpability https://www.securityweek.com/how-linux-became-new-bullseye-bad-guys
21:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: securityweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/how-linux-became-new-bullseye-bad-guys https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.securityweek.com/how-linux-became-new-bullseye-bad-guys
21:17 TR Bot; Linux Became the New Bullseye for Bad Guys | SecurityWeek.Com
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21:18 TR News; "PopOS! 22.04 has a surprise you might not have noticed, we get the details on Ubuntus new Real-Time kernel, and the clever idea from the Framework laptop team." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148422/linux-action-news-238/
21:18 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148422/linux-action-news-238/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148422/linux-action-news-238/
21:18 TR Bot; Linux Action News 238 | Jupiter Broadcasting
21:19 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DoBF9mctSQg
21:19 TR Bot; Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS overview | Streamline your Workflow. - Invidious
21:22 TR News; Godot Engine - Godot Sprint and User Meeting Barcelona June 2022 https://godotengine.org/article/godot-sprint-and-user-meeting-barcelona-june-2022 Source: godotengine
21:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/godot-sprint-and-user-meeting-barcelona-june-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/godot-sprint-and-user-meeting-barcelona-june-2022
21:22 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Godot Sprint and User Meeting Barcelona June 2022
21:22 TR News; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 7 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-7 Source: godotengine
21:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-7
21:22 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 7
21:23 TR News; Bugsnax out on Steam, looking good on Steam Deck but tweak needed on Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/bugsnax-out-on-steam-looking-good-on-steam-deck-but-tweak-needed-on-linux-desktop/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
21:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/bugsnax-out-on-steam-looking-good-on-steam-deck-but-tweak-needed-on-linux-desktop/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/bugsnax-out-on-steam-looking-good-on-steam-deck-but-tweak-needed-on-linux-desktop/
21:23 TR Bot; out on Steam, looking good on Steam Deck but tweak needed on Linux desktop | GamingOnLinux
21:25 TR News; Red Hat does not even use "Open Source" to make this report https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-telecommunications-industry-highlights see http://techrights.org/2022/03/03/state-of-proprietary-software/
21:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: redhat.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-telecommunications-industry-highlights https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-telecommunications-industry-highlights
21:25 TR Bot; Red Hats The State of Enterprise Open Source report : Telecommunications industry highlights
21:25 TR Bot; Red Hats State of Enterprise Open Source Report Made on an Apple Mac Using Proprietary Software | Techrights
21:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164256
21:25 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:26 TR News; "Launched today, Access Nows new report, The return of digital authoritarianism: internet shutdowns in 2021, sheds light on Russias further down sliding into digital authoritarianism over the course of last year, exploring how previous actions have led to todays reality of blocked Facebook" https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
21:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
21:26 TR Bot; Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now
21:27 TR News; Microsoft viciously attacks Linux while so-called 'Linux' Foundation grins and continues lying for Microsoft while taking bribes from it
21:29 TR News; But will they finally prosecute and arrest Microsoft executives for their crimes? Much more severe than antitrust abuses? https://www.project-disco.org/competition/042822-leading-antitrust-enforcers-criticize-antitrust-bills-targeting-large-tech-firms/ see http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
21:29 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: project-disco.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/042822-leading-antitrust-enforcers-criticize-antitrust-bills-targeting-large-tech-firms/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/042822-leading-antitrust-enforcers-criticize-antitrust-bills-targeting-large-tech-firms/
21:29 TR Bot; Leading Antitrust Enforcers Criticize Antitrust Bills Targeting Large Tech Firms - Disruptive Competition Project
21:29 TR Bot; Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
21:30 TR News; ICBM looking for slaves: "Help Wanted in Q2 2022" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/mindshare-committee-quarterly-report-q1-2022/
21:30 TR Bot; Mindshare Committee Quarterly Report - Q1 2022 Fedora Community Blog
21:30 TR News; Not so Smart: The SMART Copyright Acts Dangerous Approach to Online Copyright Protection - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/not-so-smart-the-smart-copyright-acts-dangerous-approach-to-online-copyright-protection/ Source: publicknowledge
21:30 TR Bot; Not so Smart: The SMART Copyright Acts Dangerous Approach to Online Copyright Protection - Public Knowledge
21:31 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR, same
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21:31 bnchs__; i don't know how would you detect malware via electromagnetic waves
21:31 bnchs__; that's like pseudo science
21:31 mib_j15jek; Why are you talking to yourself?
21:32 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:32 SomeH4x0r; the fact you don't see logs does not mean there are none
21:32 TR News; "technology alone wasnt going to get us where we needed to be; people needed to invest time to learn and use the platforms that we had put in place." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/digital-acumen-impact-business-success
21:32 TR Bot; 3 ways building digital acumen can impact business success | The Enterprisers Project
21:32 SomeH4x0r; check them out on https://techrights.org tomorrow, I guess
21:32 TR Bot; Welcome to Techrights
21:32 mib_j15jek; Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. TIME TRAVELERS or MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN formerly of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER. I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body! Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a.
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21:33 schestowitz-TR; trolls from gateways
21:34 bnchs__; lol
21:34 bnchs__; webchat always brings trolls
21:34 bnchs__; example: stallman talk
21:34 schestowitz-TR; you lower the acess barriere
21:34 schestowitz-TR; and you get low-lives
21:35 schestowitz-TR; that's one reason to not be in freenode
21:35 schestowitz-TR; easy means bad things too
21:35 schestowitz-TR; outsource linux to shithub, get bad patch requests
21:35 schestowitz-TR; to use ananalogy
21:35 schestowitz-TR; people who cannot use real email
21:36 schestowitz-TR; (not gmail/web page as "message")
21:36 schestowitz-TR; cannot produce good kernel code
21:36 schestowitz-TR; and people who don't know how to use an iRC clients
21:36 schestowitz-TR; likely don't have much to contribute to "tech rights"
21:36 schestowitz-TR; likely
21:36 schestowitz-TR; not always
21:36 TR News; "Nice to see a title with full Linux support too, with a Native Linux build available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/trigon-space-story-is-a-fresh-ftl-like-space-strategy-game-out-now/
21:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/trigon-space-story-is-a-fresh-ftl-like-space-strategy-game-out-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/trigon-space-story-is-a-fresh-ftl-like-space-strategy-game-out-now/
21:36 TR Bot; Space Story is a fresh FTL-like space strategy game out now | GamingOnLinux
21:36 bnchs__; webchats make it easy to troll
21:37 schestowitz-TR; yes, cheap
21:37 schestowitz-TR; and hard to detect
21:37 schestowitz-TR; also large irc network
21:38 schestowitz-TR; /join #fsf
21:38 schestowitz-TR; RMS [something offensive] [something offensive] [something offensive]
21:38 schestowitz-TR; [closes tab
21:38 bnchs__; swastikas
21:38 bnchs__; and N-words
21:39 schestowitz-TR; next challenge:
21:39 schestowitz-TR; detect with "hey hi"
21:39 schestowitz-TR; a swastika
21:39 schestowitz-TR; not un unicode
21:39 schestowitz-TR; and not used as a peace symbol in asia
21:39 schestowitz-TR; and detect is the N word is used by a black person
21:39 schestowitz-TR; in which case it is not offensive
21:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe sort out the racial profiling of irc users..
21:43 TR News; 'Public Knowledge' has just been infiltrated by Microsoft, so it is more likely to help cover up Microsofts crimes than promote actual knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-new-members-to-board-of-directors/
21:43 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Welcomes New Members to Board of Directors - Public Knowledge
21:44 TR News; Beelink SER 4 Ryzen 7 Mini PC Ships with Manjaro Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164229#comment-33483
21:44 TR Bot; Beelink SER 4 4800U X pairs a Ryzen 7 CPU with Manjaro Linux | Tux Machines
21:46 TR News; Site called "Linux security" helps Microsoft smear "Linux" to deflect attention away from Microsoft's own catastrophes, which are costing lives already https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/microsoft-warns-these-flaws-could-give-attackers-root-privileges-on-linux-desktops see http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
21:46 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/microsoft-warns-these-flaws-could-give-attackers-root-privileges-on-linux-desktops https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-vulnerabilities/microsoft-warns-these-flaws-could-give-attackers-root-privileges-on-linux-desktops
21:46 TR Bot; Microsoft warns: These flaws could give attackers root privileges o...
21:46 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
21:46 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR, i'm pretty sure nobody would spam the N-word 100 times unless it was a troll
21:46 bnchs__; or spam a big block of swastika
21:47 TR News; Games: Godot Engine, Bugsnax, Trigon: Space Story, Kaiju Wars Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164257
21:47 TR Bot; Games: Godot Engine, Bugsnax, Trigon: Space Story, Kaiju Wars | Tux Machines
21:49 TR News; "The apparent standstill of Windows 11 adoption is continuing for a second month, according to figures from ad platform AdDuplex." So Microsoft attacks Linux now. Frauds like Zemlin do nothing but take bribes. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/adduplex_windows_11/
21:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/adduplex_windows_11/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/adduplex_windows_11/
21:49 TR Bot; Windows 11 'isn't growing', but 10 21H2 added 6.5% report The Register
21:50 TR News; Mesa already infiltrated by Microsoft to PROMOTE WINDOWS https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.1-rc3 see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/phoronix-and-microsoft-mesa/
21:50 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.1-rc3 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-22.1-rc3
21:50 TR Bot; 22.1-rc3 Released With Backports For Intel Raptor Lake P, Zink/Kopper On Windows - Phoronix
21:50 TR Bot; Microsoft Thinks It Owns Mesa (and Computer Games) | Techrights
21:51 TR News; Internet Shutdowns Rocket As Governments Crack Down On Dissent https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/04/28/internet-shutdowns-rocket-as-governments-crack-down-on-dissent/?sh=74d7afbf3613
21:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/04/28/internet-shutdowns-rocket-as-governments-crack-down-on-dissent/?sh=74d7afbf3613 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2022/04/28/internet-shutdowns-rocket-as-governments-crack-down-on-dissent/?sh=74d7afbf3613
21:51 TR Bot; Internet Shutdowns Rocket As Governments Crack Down On Dissent
21:52 TR News; Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: digital authoritarianism returning across the globe https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/
21:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-global-keepiton-2021/
21:52 TR Bot; Internet shutdowns in 2021: digital authoritarianism returning globally
21:52 TR News; Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: MENA in the dark https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-mena-keepiton-2021/
21:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-mena-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-mena-keepiton-2021/
21:52 TR Bot; Report: Internet shutdowns in the Middle East and North Africa in 2021
21:53 TR News; Over 100 Internet Shutdowns Imposed in India in 2021 The Most in the World: New Report https://thewire.in/government/over-100-internet-shutdowns-imposed-in-india-in-2021-the-most-in-the-world-new-report
21:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thewire.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thewire.in/government/over-100-internet-shutdowns-imposed-in-india-in-2021-the-most-in-the-world-new-report https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thewire.in/government/over-100-internet-shutdowns-imposed-in-india-in-2021-the-most-in-the-world-new-report
21:53 TR Bot; Over 100 Internet Shutdowns Imposed in India in 2021 The Most in the World: New Report
21:53 TR News; Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: resistance in the face of blackouts in Africa https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-africa-keepiton-2021/
21:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-africa-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-africa-keepiton-2021/
21:53 TR Bot; Report: Who shut down the internet in Africa in 2021?
21:54 TR News; India continues to hold top position in internet shutdowns: Access Now | Business Standard News https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/india-continues-to-hold-top-position-in-internet-shutdowns-access-now-122042800628_1.html Source: business-standard
21:54 TR Bot; India continues to hold top position in internet shutdowns: Access Now | Business Standard News
21:54 TR News; Internet shutdowns in 2021: the return of digital authoritarianism https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-2021/
21:54 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-2021/
21:54 TR Bot; Report: Who shut down the internet in 2021?
21:55 TR News; Empty promises? Declaration for Future of the Internet is nice on paper - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/declaration-for-future-internet/ Source: accessnow
21:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/declaration-for-future-internet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/declaration-for-future-internet/
21:55 TR Bot; Empty promises? Declaration for Future of the Internet is nice on paper - Access Now
21:55 TR News; Internet shutdowns in 2021 report: India is the worlds largest offender https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-india-keepiton-2021/
21:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-india-keepiton-2021/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/internet-shutdowns-india-keepiton-2021/
21:55 TR Bot; Report: Internet shutdowns in India in 2021
21:55 TR News; The return of digital authoritarianism: internet shutdowns in 2021 https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-2021-report [PDF]
21:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-2021-report https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-2021-report
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21:56 TR News; India country with most internet shutdowns for 4th time, 85 in J&K alone: Report | Latest News India - Hindustan Times https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/india-country-with-most-internet-shutdowns-for-4th-time-85-in-j-k-alone-report-101651135980603.html Source: hindustantimes
21:56 TR Bot; India country with most internet shutdowns for 4th time, 85 in J&K alone: Report | Latest News India - Hindustan Times
21:56 TR News; Internet Shutdowns Surge From India to Russia After Covid Dip https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-28/internet-shutdowns-surge-from-india-to-russia-after-covid-dip
21:56 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
21:57 TR News; Proprietary software: "Cisco has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in multiple Cisco products. An attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/27/cisco-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
21:57 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
21:59 TR News; Orra White Hitchcocks Scientific Illustrations for the Classroom (182840) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/hitchcock-illustrations/ Source: publicdomainreview
21:59 TR Bot; Orra White Hitchcocks Scientific Illustrations for the Classroom (182840) The Public Domain Review
22:02 TR News; Microsofts Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164258
22:02 TR Bot; Microsoft's Anti-Linux Propaganda and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:04 TR News; Apples Big Fat Nothing Burger " The Repair Association https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq Source: righttorepair
22:04 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: repair.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.repair.org/blog/2022/4/27/03kl2m5moyqurmstbvckhaoqi3btxq
22:04 TR Bot; Apple's Big Fat Nothing Burger The Repair Association
22:05 TR News; The old Torvalds would have blasted Microsoft for this, but now 3 of his bosses are full-time Microsoft employees. Goodbye, independent Linus. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wihuvzVTozzNLZT=uFzJH6uM7ZNKN7fYVpm0v2KkY6Jxg@mail.gmail.com/
22:05 TR Bot; Re: NTFS3 driver is orphan already. What we do? - Linus Torvalds
22:07 TR News; To Linux, Microsoft is a saboteur that lies, bribes, and corrupt everyone to actively undermine adoption of Linux. Zemlin and the other frauds sold us out for personal gain.
22:07 TR News; Patents are NOT rightrs https://blog.opensource.org/gnome-patent-troll-stripped-of-patent-rights/ also see http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation#Shotwell_lawsuit
22:07 TR Bot; GNOME patent troll stripped of patent rights
22:07 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation - Techrights
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22:09 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/28/cisa-and-fbi-update-advisory-destructive-malware-targeting see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/
22:09 TR Bot; CISA and FBI Update Advisory on Destructive Malware Targeting Organizations in Ukraine | CISA
22:09 TR Bot; Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights
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22:10 TR News; "If you intend to apply for a DebConf22 bursary and/or submit an event proposal and have not yet done so, please proceed as soon as possible!" https://bits.debian.org/2022/04/debconf22-bursaries-and-cfp-last-call.html
22:10 TR Bot; DebConf22 bursary applications and call for papers are closing in less than 72 hours! - Bits from Debian
22:10 bnchs; lol
22:11 bnchs; if nobody maintains the NTFS drivers
22:11 bnchs; then this might be the last week linux kernel supports NTFS
22:11 TR News; Attacking users with older machines spun as "starts to simplify Linux graphics handling" https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/
22:11 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/27/fedora_starts_to_simplify_linux/
22:11 TR Bot; Fedora dev team starts to simplify Linux graphics handling The Register
22:14 activelow; "Fedora 36 release will remove the old fbdev driver, leaving only DRM and KMS" <- idiots
22:15 activelow; "later this year, it's proposed that the driver be removed from the X.org server as well" <- why? it is fast and stable
22:15 bnchs; 2040: "Fedora 100 release will remove the old OpenGL driver, leaving only Vulkan and DirectX"
22:16 activelow; some argument being, because UEFI... framebuffer isn't a concern of UEFI
22:16 activelow; it is conceptual rubbish, what fedora devs are planning
22:16 activelow; braindead nonsense
22:17 activelow; "simpledrm will replace fbdev, but it's not yet possible to completely remove this, partly because fbcon, the kernel console driver" <- simpledrm for what?
22:18 bnchs; simpleDRM
22:18 bnchs; digital restrictment management
22:18 activelow; "KMS to configure a console graphics mode, enabling people to use other alphabets and writing systems" <- nonsenes
22:21 activelow; if this type of intellect continues dictating there won't be any linux remaining
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22:21 activelow; with GCC they made considerable progress already, kernel isn't left far behind this type of "innovation", userspace is poisoned with rubbish
22:22 bnchs; activelow, "there won't be any linux remaining" you got that right
22:22 bnchs; the old linus would have straightened the shit out of the mailing list
22:22 bnchs; and reject bad patches and ideas
22:23 bnchs; but unfortunately things like that don't last
22:24 bnchs; the old linus was like gordon ramsay
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22:34 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164259
22:34 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:35 TR News; "After 2 editions cancelled due to the pandemic, the famous Embedded Recipes and Kernel Recipes conferences are back: they will take place end of May and beginning of June in Paris!" https://bootlin.com/blog/bootlin-at-embedded-recipes-and-kernel-recipes-2022-paris/
22:35 TR Bot; at Embedded Recipes and Kernel Recipes 2022, Paris - Bootlin's blog
22:36 TR News; Management is NOT an art https://newsletter.bringthedonuts.com/p/the-art-of-product-management?s=r
22:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bringthedonuts.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newsletter.bringthedonuts.com/p/the-art-of-product-management?s=r https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newsletter.bringthedonuts.com/p/the-art-of-product-management?s=r
22:36 TR Bot; The Art of Product Management - by Ken Norton
22:37 TR News; "Evan, meanwhile, tries out his new microphone and complains bitterly about tech hardware obsolescence." https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/The-Obsolescence-Episode-e1hpucg
22:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: anchor.fm | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/The-Obsolescence-Episode-e1hpucg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://anchor.fm/tic-tek-toe/episodes/The-Obsolescence-Episode-e1hpucg
22:37 TR Bot; The Obsolescence Episode by TIC TEK TOE
22:41 TR News; Richard Hughes: fwupd 1.8.0 and 50 million updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164251#comment-33484
22:41 TR Bot; Fwupd 1.8 Linux Firmware Updating Tool Is Out With Support for New Hardware, More | Tux Machines
22:42 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS, Linux Action News, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164260
22:42 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS, Linux Action News, and More | Tux Machines
22:43 TR News; Is Rocky Linux the new CentOS? https://www.howtogeek.com/devops/is-rocky-linux-the-new-centos/ Unlike AlmaLinux, it's NOT in bed with Microsoft
22:43 TR Bot; Is Rocky Linux the new CentOS?
22:47 TR News; Rocky Linux and Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164261
22:47 TR Bot; Rocky Linux and Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:47 TR News; Voyager Live 22.04 http://voyagerlive.org/
22:48 TR Bot;
22:48 TR News; Kodachi 8.21 is out in Oman https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/
22:48 TR Bot; Linux Kodachi 8.21 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization
22:49 TR News; Ubuntu Christian Edition has just had a new LTS release as well https://ubuntuce.com/ I still remember ME, Muslim Edition, almost 15 years ago
22:49 TR Bot; Ubuntu Christian Edition -- Linux For Christians
22:50 MinceR; i still remember Satanic Edition which was cancelled
22:50 TR News; Linus Torvalds acting like a coward now that 3 FULL-TIME staff of Microsoft are his MANAGERS https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-NTFS3-Comments see http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/
22:50 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-NTFS3-Comments https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linus-Torvalds-NTFS3-Comments
22:50 TR Bot; Torvalds Comments On The NTFS Linux Driver Situation - Phoronix
22:50 TR Bot; [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights
22:50 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: Satan Bacon
22:51 schestowitz-TR; he came to visit with a trademark pitchfork
22:51 schestowitz-TR; memory lane might still have that info
22:51 schestowitz-TR; but the web forgets fast
22:51 MinceR; and so we know which religions canonical likes, beside that of MICROS~1, which is number 1 for them
22:51 schestowitz-TR; "community managers" = hobbyist, unqualified lawyer who shouts heavy metal
22:52 schestowitz-TR; Satanic Edition was reserved
22:52 schestowitz-TR; for Microsoft
22:52 MinceR; no, MICROS~1 outdoes satan at evil
22:53 TR News; Microsoft did the same thing! Microsoft is a religion. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/almost_twothirds_of_smics_shanghai/
22:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/almost_twothirds_of_smics_shanghai/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/almost_twothirds_of_smics_shanghai/
22:53 TR Bot; 60% of SMIC's Shanghai employees living at work, says firm The Register
22:53 TR News; CLOWNFLARE ITSELF is the attack. Seems like The Reg is running PR or reposting PR for the clowns. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/cloudflare-largest-ddos-attack-/
22:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/cloudflare-largest-ddos-attack-/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/28/cloudflare-largest-ddos-attack-/
22:53 TR Bot; Cloudflare stomps on 15.3 million requests per second DDoS The Register
22:54 TR News; Say No to Qt................ Style Sheets https://www.kdab.com/say-no-to-qt-style-sheets/
22:54 TR Bot; No to Qt Style Sheets - KDAB
22:55 psydruid; and systemshitd is taking 2 minutes to shut down again
22:55 MinceR; well, at least it's a finite amount
22:55 TR News; "Proprietary software" is there Qt goes under in Techrights daily links. Qt isn't Free software or even "Open Source". It just used to be...
22:55 MinceR; often it takes an infinite amount of time to shut down
22:56 TR News; MinceR will like this... https://www.qt.io/blog/running-doom-on-qt-quick-ultralight
22:56 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/running-doom-on-qt-quick-ultralight https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/running-doom-on-qt-quick-ultralight
22:56 TR Bot; Running Doom on Qt for MCUs
22:56 MinceR; i'm not a big fan of Qt Quick because of how unreliable it is
22:57 TR News; But MinceR will NOT like THIS: https://www.qt.io/blog/digital-advertising-use-cases-and-best-practices Qt is pushing in the direction of spyware, even worse than ordinary proprietary toolkit
22:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/digital-advertising-use-cases-and-best-practices https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/digital-advertising-use-cases-and-best-practices
22:57 TR Bot; Digital advertising Use cases and best practices
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22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 432.36
22:59 TR News; "I am new to Gemini space. I was attracted at first by the promise that it would work more consistently on my device than the mainstream internet, but I actually rather like it here" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/909
23:00 TR News; "Browsing Gemini on my phone after dinner, slightly fuzzy from cooking with wine (though none went into the food). I'm grateful for the people writing on Gemini and Gopher. There's so much to be fond of." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/908
23:01 TR News; etnaviv: gc7000 r6204 support (!9255) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/9255 Source: gitlab
23:01 TR Bot; etnaviv: gc7000 r6204 support (!9255) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
23:01 psydruid; systems and at must be put out to pasture and out of their misery
23:01 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/jerry-app-for-car-insurance-does-it-again-fake-prices/
23:01 TR Bot; Jerry App for car insurance does it again. Fake prices. BaronHK's Rants
23:01 psydruid; systemd*
23:02 DaemonFC; Yes, and Ubuntu left Christian Edition alone.
23:02 DaemonFC; Even though that violated their trademarks as well.
23:02 DaemonFC; Canonical claimed that they went after Satanic Edition because if they didn't defend their trademarks they could lose them.
23:03 DaemonFC; So not going after Christian Edition means that they secretly gave them permission to use the Ubuntu name or abandoned their trademark on Ubuntu.
23:04 DaemonFC; Trademarks can get genericized even if they actually still are protected.
23:05 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164262
23:05 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:06 TR News; SUSE shilling proprietary software. Don't forget what SUSE stands for. It's just a SAP and Microsoft reseller among other thing... https://www.suse.com/c/sles-for-sap-hana-maintenance-procedures-part-1-pre-maintenance-checks/
23:06 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/sles-for-sap-hana-maintenance-procedures-part-1-pre-maintenance-checks/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/sles-for-sap-hana-maintenance-procedures-part-1-pre-maintenance-checks/
23:06 TR Bot; for SAP HANA Maintenance Procedures Part -1 (Pre Maintenance Checks) | SUSE Communities
23:06 TR News; Half of the official SUSE blog is just shilling SAP. Another one: https://www.suse.com/c/safeguard-your-sap-operations-with-trento-1-0-ga/
23:06 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/safeguard-your-sap-operations-with-trento-1-0-ga/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/safeguard-your-sap-operations-with-trento-1-0-ga/
23:06 TR Bot; Your SAP Operations with Trento 1.0 GA | SUSE Communities
23:07 TR News; Proprietary Software: Vista 11 Failing Miserably and Qt Helps Push Ads Inside Native Programs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164263
23:07 TR Bot; Proprietary Software: Vista 11 Failing Miserably and Qt Helps Push Ads Inside Native Programs | Tux Machines
23:08 TR News; GAFAM outsourcing the recording of people to Mozilla CORPORATIONS and people participate for free https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/common-voice-dataset-tops-20000-hours/
23:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/common-voice-dataset-tops-20000-hours/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/common-voice-dataset-tops-20000-hours/
23:08 TR Bot; Common Voice dataset tops 20,000 hours - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog
23:09 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22041918
23:09 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/zcleuf8buau81.jpg created on 2022-04-19 06:06:19.717638
23:10 TR News; Mozilla does paywalls now https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mdn-plus-now-available-in-more-markets/
23:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mdn-plus-now-available-in-more-markets/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/04/mdn-plus-now-available-in-more-markets/
23:10 TR Bot; MDN Plus now available in more countries - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog
23:10 TR News; Linux inside https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/
23:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/
23:10 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-persee-3d-camera-integrates-neural-processing-unit-for-ai-ml-applications/ )
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23:13 TR News; "The 2022 edition of the Latin-American LibreOffice Conference will take place in Brasilia, Brazil between August 25 and 26. The event will be held at the Catholic University of Braslia, in the Taquaritinga DF." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/28/latin-american-libreoffice-conference-2022-will-take-place-in-brasilia/
23:13 TR Bot; Latin-American LibreOffice Conference 2022 will take place in Braslia - The Document Foundation Blog
23:14 TR News; Mozilla: Paywalls, Speech Recognition (Voice Collection), and Rust Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164264
23:14 TR Bot; Mozilla: Paywalls, Speech Recognition (Voice Collection), and Rust | Tux Machines
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23:18 TR News; Events: LibreOffice, Bootlin, and DebConf22 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164265
23:18 TR Bot; Events: LibreOffice, Bootlin, and DebConf22 | Tux Machines
23:18 TR News; mesa 22.1.0-rc3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164266
23:18 TR Bot; mesa 22.1.0-rc3 | Tux Machines
23:22 TR News; Links 28/04/2022: Godot 4.0 Alpha 7 and Mesa 22.1.0 RC3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/mesa-22-1-0-rc3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/28/mesa-22-1-0-rc3/
23:22 TR Bot; Links 28/04/2022: Godot 4.0 Alpha 7 and Mesa 22.1.0 RC3 | Techrights
23:32 *matey (~matey@5w59pse2jw4pa.irc) has joined #techrights
23:32 SomeH4x0r; hi
23:32 matey; hi
23:32 schestowitz; 0/
23:32 matey; O<
23:33 matey; ~~~~~~~~ ^( )O<
23:33 MinceR; \_o< QUACK!
23:34 matey; .bef
23:34 MinceR; :)
23:34 matey; /me doesnt like the taste of duck anyway
23:35 matey; im sure someone could do a better job than ive tasted but
23:35 matey; to me it justs tastes fowl
23:35 MinceR; i see what you did there
23:35 matey; puns aside its true
23:36 matey; poultry yes, ducks no, beef is just ridiculously (dangerously) inefficient
23:36 matey; im not saying it should be illegal, just... avoided voluntarily
23:36 matey; the more people who dont eat beef the better
23:36 MinceR; beef is too tasty for me to avoid
23:36 matey; as for telling ancient scandinavian tribes not to fish... thats just reeks of colonists "humanising" "savages"
23:37 matey; which peta is not above doing at all
23:37 matey; i used to live near one of their headquarters
23:37 matey; they hung a sign comparing eating meat to eating pets...
23:37 matey; outside an asian food store.
23:37 MinceR; delicious pets
23:37 matey; i went to their headquarters and i said...
23:38 matey; "listen, dont you think maybe this is a BIT racially insensitive, or might look a LITTLE bit awful to people, and be taken the wrong way?"
23:38 matey; they looked at me deadpan and said "no, because thats a korean store and the stereotype is about the chinese"
23:38 matey; okay, i guess they know best!
23:38 matey; /me prefers aspca anyway
23:39 matey; /me is sure people are are going to go with that level of nuance too
23:39 bnchs; the world's most dangerous malware is back
23:39 matey; windows 12 is out?
23:39 matey; we havent even seen 11 yet
23:39 MinceR; lol
23:39 bnchs; windows 11.2
23:39 matey; omg
23:39 matey; is it twice as bad as 11? i forget if its like decibels or not
23:40 matey; "its over 9000!!!!!"
23:42 bnchs; https://www.zdnet.com/article/emotet-once-the-worlds-most-dangerous-malware-is-back/
23:43 TR Bot; once the world's most dangerous malware, is back | ZDNet
23:43 bnchs; the world's SECOND most dangerous malware
23:43 matey; oh, zdnet
23:43 bnchs; that first place is reserved for windows
23:43 matey; s/emotet/linux/
23:43 matey; ive never heard of emotet, it sounds like ancient egyptian malware
23:44 matey; it infected a bunch of smartphones when they opened up some old tomb
23:44 bnchs; it's a malware that uses document macros
23:44 matey; it puts a scarab as your boot screen
23:44 bnchs; as if you haven't had enough of that bullshit
23:44 matey; it's a malware that uses document macros <- oh yes, i remember document macros
23:45 matey; theyre never designed well
23:45 matey; i recommend never using them
23:45 matey; or having them enabled
23:45 bnchs; lol
23:45 matey; sadly this applies to ooo and "libre"collaborgnomea too
23:45 matey; libregnomeoffice
23:45 bnchs; C preprocessors work better than word document macros
23:45 bnchs; fuck that shit
23:45 bnchs; we should use C preprocessor
23:46 matey; well, c has never deserved to be tarred with the same brush as office applications
23:46 matey; usually when c fucks you over, its because SOMEONE coding something wrong
23:46 matey; coded
23:46 matey; and honestly there are so many cool things you can do about tht
23:47 matey; to the point where HOPEFULLY those overflows are passe/obsolete, but i wouldnt assume they are
23:47 matey; i mean im not silly enough to think openbsd is impenetrable. i know it isnt true
23:47 matey; if it was, more people would use it
23:47 matey; theyd be like yeah, openbsd bitch! just try it!
23:48 matey; nope, you still need security, just like any other stupid machine
23:48 matey; but PROBABLY less than windows does.
23:48 TR News; Screens too small, no keyboard... this is progress???? https://linuxstoney.com/android-13-will-allow-running-linux-and-even-windows-through-virtualization/
23:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/android-13-will-allow-running-linux-and-even-windows-through-virtualization/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/android-13-will-allow-running-linux-and-even-windows-through-virtualization/
23:48 TR Bot; 13 will allow running Linux and even Windows through virtualization - LinuxStoney
23:48 matey; /me holds up a thumb and finger close together
23:48 bnchs; "android 13 will allow running windows"
23:48 bnchs; uhh is it the opposite
23:48 matey; lol
23:49 matey; that would be hilarious though
23:49 matey; i was like damn, those qualcomm chips are getting heavy
23:49 matey; i dont even own anything up to running windows 11
23:50 TR News; Beelink SER 4 4800U X, new mini-PC with Manjaro Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164229#comment-33485
23:50 TR Bot; Beelink SER 4 4800U X pairs a Ryzen 7 CPU with Manjaro Linux | Tux Machines
23:50 matey; /me loves that his mouse and keyboard like to braid each other when hes not looking
23:50 matey; sometimes my headphones get in on it
23:50 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/my-buicks-computer-does-not-like-gates/
23:50 TR Bot; My Buicks computer does not like Gates. BaronHK's Rants
23:51 matey; i guess you shouldnt drive it in redmond, it might try something funny :)
23:51 TR News; Cider: the Apple Music app also for Linux - LinuxStoney https://linuxstoney.com/cider-the-apple-music-app-also-for-linux/ Source: linuxstoney
23:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/cider-the-apple-music-app-also-for-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/cider-the-apple-music-app-also-for-linux/
23:51 TR Bot; the Apple Music app also for Linux - LinuxStoney
23:51 matey; /me has no idea where bill gates hangs out these days
23:51 matey; now that jeff is gone
23:52 TR News; Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 211 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-211-released/
23:52 TR Bot; diffoscope 211 released
23:53 TR News; The new Linux NTFS driver is in danger http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164224#comment-33486
23:53 TR Bot; The Future of the NTFS Linux Driver as Part of the Kernel Is in Question | Tux Machines
23:54 psydruid; > lol
23:54 psydruid; > that would be hilarious though
23:54 psydruid; > i was like damn, those qualcomm chips are getting heavy
23:54 psydruid; > i dont even own anything up to running windows 11
23:54 psydruid; They are getting heavy. The latest phone chips are as fast as laptop/desktop processors from a few years ago.
23:54 TR News; Jerry App for car insurance does it again. Fake prices. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/28/jerry-app-for-car-insurance-does-it-again-fake-prices/ Source: baronhk
23:54 TR Bot; Jerry App for car insurance does it again. Fake prices. BaronHK's Rants
23:54 matey; i know that on an intellectual level
23:54 bnchs; <psydruid> They are getting heavy.
23:54 matey; but until i see it for myself its hard to believe
23:54 bnchs; that's what i said about yo momma
23:54 TR News; How Often Should You Update Arch Linux? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=is_ikJkvwxk Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
23:54 TR Bot; How Often Should You Update Arch Linux? - Invidious
23:55 matey; /me plays some disco to go with that joke, but laughs anyway
23:55 MinceR; finally MICROS~1 figured out a way to keep Backdoors around
23:55 psydruid; Similar chips from Mediatek and Qualcomm are in Chromebooks
23:55 MinceR; they'll just use patents to blackmail android device vendors to preinstall Backdoors as a VM
23:55 matey; i like mediatek for some reason. thats stupid, right?
23:55 MinceR; brace for the market penetration claims.
23:55 TR News; FreeBSD 13.1-RC5 Available https://www.freebsd.org/ site not updated yet...
23:55 TR Bot; The FreeBSD Project
23:56 *goosestepping_ (~goosestepping@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights
23:56 psydruid; Maybe, but I have more devices with Mediatek chips than with Qualcomm chips
23:57 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/04/28/drop-in-gdp-challenges-bidens-pitch-to-voters/
23:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/04/28/drop-in-gdp-challenges-bidens-pitch-to-voters/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://politicalwire.com/2022/04/28/drop-in-gdp-challenges-bidens-pitch-to-voters/
23:57 TR Bot; Drop In GDP Challenges Bidens Pitch to Voters
23:57 DaemonFC; President Joe Bidens upbeat message that the economy is cruising along hit a troublesome speed bump on Thursday when the federal government reported that U.S. gross domestic product shrank during the first three months of 2022, the AP reports.
23:57 DaemonFC; Economic activity declined at annual rate of 1.4%, a sharp reversal from last year when growth was the strongest since 1984. There were technical reasons for the decline that likely obscured the actual health of the economy, yet the drop clearly put the president on the defensive after he has said repeatedly that the booming job market means the U.S. can withstand inflation at a 40-year high.
23:57 DaemonFC; 1.4% GDP drop with 8.5% inflation.
23:57 DaemonFC; Build Back Better-er
23:58 TR News; Chrome is proprietary and acts like it https://blog.chromium.org/2022/04/chrome-102-window-controls-overlay-host.html
23:58 TR Bot; Chromium Blog: Chrome 102: Window Controls Overlay, a Host of Finished Origin Trials, PWAs as File Handlers and More
23:58 DaemonFC; "Technical Reasons!"
23:58 matey; market penetration sounds like something steve ballmer would do
23:59 DaemonFC; Yeah.
23:59 matey; maybe after a market thigh rub
23:59 MinceR; :>
23:59 matey; at least he didnt throw a chair at the other team
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