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7 AM, April 27

07:17 Techrights-sec; https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-04/msg00037.html

↺ https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-04/msg00037.html

07:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lists.gnu.org | Re: thank you elon musk

07:24 schestowitz; <li>

07:24 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed">Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!</a></h5>

↺ https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed">Pop!_OS

07:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.system76.com | System76 Blog Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!

07:24 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:25 schestowitz; <p>Update and upgrade Pop!_OS automatically from the OS Upgrade & Recovery panel in Settings! Minimize interruption by scheduling what day & time that you want your computer to perform the updates. Scheduled automatic updates include support for Debian, Flatpak, and Nix packages.</p>

07:25 schestowitz; <p>To reduce distractions, notifications for available updates are set to show weekly by default. The frequency can also be set to daily or monthly notifications. Notifications wont show if you have automatic updates enabled. Automatic updates are turned off by default.</p>

07:25 schestowitz; </blockquote>

07:25 schestowitz; </li>

07:25 schestowitz; <li>

07:25 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/canonical-may-go-public-in-2023,-claims-us$175m-profit-last-year.html">Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year</a></h5>

↺ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/canonical-may-go-public-in-2023,-claims-us$175m-profit-last-year.html">Canonical

07:25 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:26 schestowitz; <p>The head of Canonical, the company behind the Ubuntu Linux distribution, claims it recorded a profit of US$175 million (A$237.7 million) in 2021 and is likely to undertake an IPO in 2023.</p>

07:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year

07:26 schestowitz; </blockquote>

07:26 schestowitz; </li>

07:26 schestowitz; <li>

07:26 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb">What is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications?</a></h5>

↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb">What

07:26 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:26 schestowitz; <p>Organisations of different scales and forms want to harness the power of data to identify new business opportunities and improve current business operations. Organisations that use data effectively can hold a potential advantage the ability to make faster and more informed business decisions. However, working with data can be a long-standing problem for businesses and functions, especially in data

07:26 schestowitz; management and software development.</p>

07:26 schestowitz; <p>One essential use case in which organisations require fast phase development and excellent data management is building modern web-based applications. Organisations demand a high-quality working system that can be deployed as quickly as possible. In addition, these applications should be able to scale. So, every application must be designed and built on a suitable database. Traditionally, web

07:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications? | Ubuntu

07:26 schestowitz; applications used relational databases as primary data store, with an appreciation for the well-normalised data model. But as applications modernise, more developers lean towards adopting alternative data stores, such as NoSQL (Not Only Structured Query Language) because of their benefits.</p>

07:26 schestowitz; <p>One of the applications that can help organisations develop modern web-based applications is MongoDB. This database enables organisations to build scalable and data-driven applications. The data model and persistence strategies are built for high read and write throughput. In addition, it has an automatic failover capability. If youre wondering what MongoDB is, its benefits, and how MongoDB helps run

07:26 schestowitz; modern web-based application production, this blog is for you.</p>

07:26 schestowitz; </blockquote>

07:26 schestowitz; </li>

07:35 schestowitz-TR; great finds in Daily Links, now we see some numbers about the effect of destroying YouTube with ads

07:35 schestowitz-TR; in 2018, IIRC, Twittter did the same

07:35 schestowitz-TR; killing off third parties

07:35 schestowitz-TR; shoving lots of ads

07:35 schestowitz-TR; they temporarily made preofit for the first time

07:35 schestowitz-TR; but THEY LOST A TON OF USERS

07:35 schestowitz-TR; then they were back to losses

07:35 schestowitz-TR; YouTube might be the same


8 AM, April 27

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08:56 schestowitz-TR; Techdirt says "utilizing established IP" [sic] but should know better! https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/paradox-fully-embraces-fan-games-with-developer-affiliate-program/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/paradox-fully-embraces-fan-games-with-developer-affiliate-program/

08:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Paradox Fully Embraces Fan-Games With Developer Affiliate Program | Techdirt

08:57 schestowitz-TR; not the first time

08:57 schestowitz-TR; I see a lot of things in EFF, CC, and TechDirt that I cannot agree with

08:57 schestowitz-TR; Mozilla has long crossed the border


9 AM, April 27

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09:07 schestowitz-TR; Abusive Bully on Twitter https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/26/twitter_elon_musk_free_speech | Source: Democracy Now

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/26/twitter_elon_musk_free_speech

09:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Elon Musk, the Worlds Richest Man, Has Been an Abusive Bully on Twitter for Years. Now He Owns It | Democracy Now!


10 AM, April 27

10:11 Techrights-sec; ypuotube is dying, first the sharecroppers are going elsewhere, along with their

10:11 Techrights-sec; followers, and then google is tryingto squueze the remining fools, thus driving

10:11 Techrights-sec; more sharecroppers away

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10:15 schestowitz-TR; I could never prove it due to "creative" accounting, but I've long argued that like with Gulag Code

10:15 schestowitz-TR; and ShitHub, there's no real business mode;

10:15 schestowitz-TR; Same for Twitter

10:15 schestowitz-TR; the "free" account is how they build the business

10:15 schestowitz-TR; with netflix nthe expenses are huge, but they do charge a fee

10:15 schestowitz-TR; so anyway, they operate in a vacuuum

10:15 schestowitz-TR; assuming they can somehow turn the useds into customers

10:15 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I messed aroung with youtube

10:15 schestowitz-TR; toi find football videos

10:15 schestowitz-TR; of the game here

10:15 schestowitz-TR; they keep pushing PACKAGES for youtube

10:15 schestowitz-TR; like I'd actually pay them to watch video

10:15 schestowitz-TR; it's hard to convince people to start paying

10:15 schestowitz-TR; for what they used to get for freee

10:15 schestowitz-TR; back to gulag, they bought a losing operaiton

10:15 schestowitz-TR; same for shithub

10:15 schestowitz-TR; and gulag did not wish to buy shithub

10:15 schestowitz-TR; it was put on offer

10:15 schestowitz-TR; maybe shithub preferred to sell to gulag

10:15 schestowitz-TR; the more they sequqeesze for money, like twitter in 2018

10:15 schestowitz-TR; the fewer used are left

10:15 schestowitz-TR; until there's no geese left to squeeze

10:15 schestowitz-TR; it's a precarious situation

10:15 schestowitz-TR; spotify does charge for useds

10:15 schestowitz-TR; but maybe not enough

10:15 schestowitz-TR; so it tried podcasting

10:15 schestowitz-TR; and lost millions of subscribers

10:15 schestowitz-TR; 5 million x $10 a month = 50 a month lost. 50 million

10:15 schestowitz-TR; In two months 100 million.

10:15 schestowitz-TR; What they paid RogueAn.

10:17 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure YouTube was losing so badly at the time it was bought but

10:17 Techrights-sec; the storage and bandwidth don't pay for themselves and video is expensive

10:17 Techrights-sec; as hell to even store and stream despite them getting the production work

10:17 Techrights-sec; for free

10:17 schestowitz-TR; remember it's easier to lose SUBSRFIBER

10:17 schestowitz-TR; than a USED

10:17 schestowitz-TR; because for the used it's harder to justify leaving

10:17 schestowitz-TR; "it's free after all"

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10:17 schestowitz-TR; subscribers just "Stop paying"

10:17 schestowitz-TR; if they are no longer happy

10:17 Techrights-sec; yep

10:18 schestowitz-TR; I want to see the whole bubble busrsting

10:18 schestowitz-TR; NO BAILOUTS THIS TIMER

10:18 schestowitz-TR; Stop doping!!!

10:18 schestowitz-TR; OIn taxpayers' backs

10:18 schestowitz-TR; The Reg wrote about the hololkens graft yesterday

10:24 Techrights-sec; National security and preparedness would rise drastically if M$ were allowed

10:24 Techrights-sec; to finally go under

10:25 schestowitz-TR; but sales of all sorts would also diminish

10:25 schestowitz-TR; can't allow dddat!!!

10:25 schestowitz-TR; btw, rianne and I will go cycling soon, maybe in 30 mins

10:25 Techrights-sec; excellent. have a great ride

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft concern-trolling Linux while putting NSA back doors in Windows https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating System

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- thehackernews.com | Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating System

10:35 schestowitz-TR; techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> As if local privilege escalation is anywhere as severe as remotely-reachable back doors in Windows https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

↺ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users/

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-arstechnica.com | Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars Technica

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- arstechnica.com | Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars Technica

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft is "concerned" about Linux security like wolves are concerned about the safety of sheep.

10:35 schestowitz-TR; ICBM hypocrisy: "Many companies these days are keen to infuse their products and platforms with artificial intelligence" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/diversity-drives-innovation

↺ https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/diversity-drives-innovation

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-enterprisersproject.com | 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers Project

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- enterprisersproject.com | 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers Project

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Proprietary junk. Probably does more harm than good. Shilled by spamnil and other snakeoil spammers. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/26/2429026/0/en/New-SIOS-LifeKeeper-for-Linux-Version-9-6-1-Adds-Support-for-the-Latest-Versions-of-Key-Operating-Systems-Databases-and-Cloud-Features.html

↺ https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/26/2429026/0/en/New-SIOS-LifeKeeper-for-Linux-Version-9-6-1-Adds-Support-for-the-Latest-Versions-of-Key-Operating-Systems-Databases-and-Cloud-Features.html

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.globenewswire.com | New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds Support

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.globenewswire.com | New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds Support

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "I'm going to start this blog by writing a very simple guide on installing Perl using perlbrew." http://blogs.perl.org/users/ali/2022/04/installing-perl-with-perlbrew.html

↺ http://blogs.perl.org/users/ali/2022/04/installing-perl-with-perlbrew.html

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Installing Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- Installing Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This was patched a very long time ago; meanwhile, there are dozen of zero-day flaws in Windows that are remotely exploitable, not local privilege escalation https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/

↺ https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thestack.technology | "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wild

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- thestack.technology | "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wild

10:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> While CISA admits Microsoft is full of holes that are actively exploited Microsoft and its faithful media operative try to shift attention to "Linux" https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/

↺ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Nimbuspwn Linux vulnerability gives hackers root privileges

10:35 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.bleepingcomputer.com | Ne

10:37 schestowitz-TR; more research on the security matter would help beofore doign article/video

10:37 schestowitz-TR; in case I do one

10:37 schestowitz-TR; maybe there's more to it than meets the eye

10:37 schestowitz-TR; like very hard to actually leverage such a bug

10:37 schestowitz-TR; I did not look into it

10:37 schestowitz-TR; but could use help here

10:37 schestowitz-TR; Dan Goodin and other Micerosoft boot lickers... I would NOT truist a word from them

10:39 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure what could be found, the media covers for M$

10:39 Techrights-sec; all day everyday

10:40 schestowitz-TR; but maybe it's another one of those MS/GitHub claiming Linux has security "disaster"

10:40 schestowitz-TR; because you can executive some malicious file in KDE or GNOME

10:40 schestowitz-TR; Can

10:40 schestowitz-TR; Not will

10:40 schestowitz-TR; they tend toi exaggerate

10:40 schestowitz-TR; CISA has just released a long list of severe Microsoft flaws

10:40 schestowitz-TR; ACTIVELY exploited

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847

↺ https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847

↺ https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847

↺ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-5092-1

↺ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-5092-1

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2022-0847

10:42 Techrights-sec; If there is a problem affecting non-M$ systems then that is unusual and therefore news. If there is a remote explo

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2022-0847

10:42 Techrights-sec; it in the wild being actively exploited

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-0847

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | DSA-5092-1

10:42 Techrights-sec; against M$ systems, that is the normal situation and thus not news

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.ivanti.com/blog/how-to-mitigate-cve-2022-0847-the-dirty-pipe-vulnerability

↺ https://www.ivanti.com/blog/how-to-mitigate-cve-2022-0847-the-dirty-pipe-vulnerability

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ivanti.com | How to Mitigate CVE-2022-0847 (The Dirty Pipe Vulnerability)

10:43 Techrights-sec; "This includes a multitude of devices running Android 12 and Linux."

10:43 schestowitz-TR; that includes apples and apple skins

10:47 Techrights-sec; re: irc -- why would 951k "tweets" cost 7GB ?

10:47 Techrights-sec; That's over 7kB per tweet

10:49 Techrights-sec; 7GB comnpressed

10:49 schestowitz-TR; i did not uncompress ot

10:49 schestowitz-TR; but i assume thyey include images now

10:49 schestowitz-TR; thereare 951k tweets

10:59 schestowitz-TR; Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod

10:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod )

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/nod

10:59 schestowitz-TR; I might do a video about it when I return home


11 AM, April 27

11:00 schestowitz-TR; you have given some additional links to work with

11:00 schestowitz-TR; inc. direct from CVE/source

11:00 schestowitz-TR; what I want to know is,

11:00 schestowitz-TR; and have not checked to verify

11:00 schestowitz-TR; is how DIFFICULT this thing is to leverage

11:00 schestowitz-TR; like pre-requisite

11:00 schestowitz-TR; e.g. are there assumptions about which kernel modules are in place?

11:01 schestowitz-TR; which kernel versions affected (many distros use stable old kernels)

11:01 schestowitz-TR; Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164200

↺ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164200

11:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation | Tux Machines

11:04 schestowitz-TR; seeing the directrion itwire has taken

11:04 schestowitz-TR; and the workload of "obligatory spam"

11:04 schestowitz-TR; the only other person likely to check what's at stake here

11:04 schestowitz-TR; is not likely to say a thing

11:04 schestowitz-TR; FOSS Force is LF now

11:04 schestowitz-TR; LF ACTIVELY PARTICIPATES in such antyi-Linux talking points

11:04 schestowitz-TR; and then pushes Snyk et al products

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2 PM, April 27

14:39 schestowitz-TR; back

14:39 schestowitz-TR; saved about 30-35 pounds

14:39 Techrights-sec; is there a summary somewhere where FOSSForce comes clean on LF financing?

14:39 Techrights-sec; https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and

↺ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and

14:39 Techrights-sec; "The Linux Foundation is funded (and controlled) by Microsoft and Facebook"

14:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry

14:40 schestowitz-TR; fossforce is an open secret

14:40 schestowitz-TR; no need to fight them in the open

14:40 schestowitz-TR; it would be counterproductive because we get support from them, esp. TM

14:42 Techrights-sec; It would be convenient to have a link to point people to covering FOSS Force and

14:42 Techrights-sec; LF but it does not have to be a link at TR

14:42 Techrights-sec;

14:42 Techrights-sec; The soft deadline for the temporary machine is approaching. Is there any

14:42 Techrights-sec; use for it or can I power it down and repurpose it early?

14:42 Techrights-sec; excellent

14:43 schestowitz-TR; any offsite partitition withh backup of the site is helpful

14:43 schestowitz-TR; in case of data losses

14:43 schestowitz-TR; My connection is not fast, so my backups of the site are not so good

14:46 Techrights-sec; The temporary system has no LXC and that is a quite unfamiliar way of managing

14:46 Techrights-sec; services

14:52 schestowitz-TR; a) many people with yellow labels in their carts today. maybe they come to grips

14:52 schestowitz-TR; with them not being worth whatever their salary said 5 or 15 years ago, so it

14:52 schestowitz-TR; is time to save where possible

14:52 schestowitz-TR; b) 10 mins ago we discussed i the kitchen expenses, sum is estimated at 750/mo excluding

14:52 schestowitz-TR; unexpected fees or help to family

14:52 schestowitz-TR; c) lunduke is not "good neighbourhood" at this time

14:52 schestowitz-TR; d) fossforce can be very schizo, so I try to stay on the good side of it

14:52 schestowitz-TR; e) when TM had issue she took it very hard (fossforce), thought it was personal

14:52 schestowitz-TR; I shared 3 "tweets" about that in IRC

14:52 schestowitz-TR; f) we actually cycle up the stream and the food buying is comfy because it's right there and way back is downhill,

14:52 schestowitz-TR; so carrying stuff in bicycle basket and backpack is easier than walking

14:52 schestowitz-TR; (g) no food for the geese today (we keep heads and tails of bread for them, always) and there are already

14:52 schestowitz-TR; some eggs hatching with gosling (we saw about 200 on the way)

14:52 schestowitz-TR; h) I am going to start working on part 5 (belarus), maybe later I will do a video about that and about

14:52 schestowitz-TR; microsoft FUD. I want to know the conditions for exploitation and how severe it really is

14:53 Techrights-sec; ack

14:53 Techrights-sec; c) lunduke is rather off since the last year or two

14:53 Techrights-sec; e) ack

14:53 Techrights-sec; grains might be healthier for the geese

14:53 Techrights-sec; h) which vulnerabilities, specifically?

14:54 schestowitz-TR; we limit to just one head or tail and split that among about a dozen each, so the total amount is small

14:54 schestowitz-TR; because their food is grass and stuff, grain is better

14:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:42] <Techrights-sec> https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847

↺ https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-0847

14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cve.mitre.org | CVE - CVE-2022-0847

14:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:42] <Techrights-sec> https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847

↺ https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-0847

14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nvd.nist.gov | NVD - CVE-2022-0847

14:55 schestowitz-TR; [10:42] <Techrights-sec> https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847

↺ https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-0847

14:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-0847

14:58 schestowitz-TR; CTRLC+ for copy I guess

14:58 schestowitz-TR; I said,

14:58 schestowitz-TR; wait there are 3 links about a new Microsoft FUD

14:58 schestowitz-TR; The one about "dirty pipe" is old news

14:58 schestowitz-TR; I think you pasted something from makeuseof

14:58 schestowitz-TR; and then quoted two links from it

14:58 schestowitz-TR; which I saw briefly

14:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe then tried to pasted another

14:59 Techrights-sec; yes #######################################

14:59 Techrights-sec; CVE-2022-0847 an co *are* old

14:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-the-dirty-pipe-exploit-in-linux-and-fix-it/

↺ https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-the-dirty-pipe-exploit-in-linux-and-fix-it/

14:59 Techrights-sec; """

14:59 Techrights-sec; The attack surface of Dirty Pipe stretches across all Linux kernel versions from 5.8 to 5.16.11. In layman's terms,

14:59 Techrights-sec; it means that all the distros, from Ubuntu to Arch and everything in between, are susceptible to being compromised

14:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.makeuseof.com | What Is the Dirty Pipe Exploit in Linux and How Can You Fix It?

14:59 Techrights-sec; by Dirty Pipe.

14:59 Techrights-sec; Affected Linux kernel versions range from 5.8 to 5.10.101.

14:59 Techrights-sec; """


3 PM, April 27

15:00 schestowitz-TR; There are two issues to cover (actually 3, I will mention ntfs neglect too)

15:00 schestowitz-TR; but the main one is from Goodin and Bleeping garbage

15:00 Techrights-sec; The problem sounds more like it is that many mobile and, especially, embedded

15:00 Techrights-sec; systems don't / can't easily get kaintained

15:00 Techrights-sec; despite being connected to the net.

15:01 schestowitz-TR; they should have used simpler OSes, with smaller attack surface, and keep them OFF the Net where possible

15:01 schestowitz-TR; but like browsers and sites throwing everything at you in bulk

15:01 schestowitz-TR; they overcomplicate things for saving's sake

15:01 schestowitz-TR; because small can be more expensive

15:01 schestowitz-TR; small requires extra effort

15:02 Techrights-sec; A problem is that everything nowadays has a network stack and the quick

15:02 Techrights-sec; way to do that is throw a kernel at it

15:02 Techrights-sec; ^Linux, specifically

15:02 Techrights-sec; Making it smaller requires effort and skill

15:06 schestowitz-TR; =====

15:06 schestowitz-TR; this is good for outsourcers

15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource software

15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource servers (hardware)

15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource dns

15:06 schestowitz-TR; outsource "apps"

15:06 schestowitz-TR; open an account

15:06 schestowitz-TR; type in credit card

15:06 schestowitz-TR; memorise GUI

15:06 schestowitz-TR; some stand to benefit from this IT as "consumerist" model

15:06 schestowitz-TR; even "apps" are now "storee"

15:06 schestowitz-TR; in palmOS it was not like this

15:08 Techrights-sec; Except that everything has been outsourced even the outsourcing so there

15:08 Techrights-sec; is nothing there to build upon.


4 PM, April 27

16:15 schestowitz-TR; bbiab

16:15 schestowitz-TR; draft

16:16 Techrights-sec; ack

16:16 Techrights-sec; same preview problem, probably related to HTTPS

16:16 Techrights-sec; yep logging out and back in again makes it accessible

16:16 Techrights-sec; The first paragraph ought to place the article in the series as well as mention

16:16 Techrights-sec; in at least one line what the main point of the article will be

16:16 Techrights-sec; How are Jung and SaM related to M$ and EPO?

16:16 Techrights-sec; Last paragraph ought to have a conclusion or reverse summary

16:23 schestowitz-TR; I am going to expand the summary

16:23 Techrights-sec; .

16:23 Techrights-sec; ack

16:24 schestowitz-TR; ota in a few mins, rianne should do a round for tuxmachines before me to avoid collusion/dupes

16:24 schestowitz-TR; I will record 2 videos

16:24 schestowitz-TR; *collision

16:27 Techrights-sec; thanks

16:28 schestowitz-TR; gonna leave out the "OVER-THE-AIR" updates thing

16:28 schestowitz-TR; and embedded devices

16:28 schestowitz-TR; and small OS aspect

16:28 schestowitz-TR; that 's used to discredit Linux for being bloated

16:28 schestowitz-TR; but the key point is

16:28 schestowitz-TR; Windows is a lot worse and a lot less safe

16:28 schestowitz-TR; so I will focus on that

16:28 schestowitz-TR; I won't link to the articles, I can instead show them on the screen in part

16:28 schestowitz-TR; and make fun

16:28 schestowitz-TR; OTA

16:30 schestowitz-TR; ok

16:30 schestowitz-TR; no need to feed them traffic

16:30 schestowitz-TR; yes but not only is windows worse, harder to use and maintain, and a lot

16:30 Techrights-sec; ok

16:30 Techrights-sec; no need to feed them traffic

16:30 Techrights-sec; yes but not only is windows worse, harder to use and maintain, and a lot

16:30 Techrights-sec; (really a lot) less safe, all those shortcomings are taken for granted

16:30 schestowitz-TR; (really a lot) less safe, all those shortcomings are taken for granted

16:30 Techrights-sec; and people have become inured to them and will need to be shaken out of the

16:30 Techrights-sec; complacancy or apathy

16:30 schestowitz-TR; and people have become inured to them and will need to be shaken out of the

16:30 schestowitz-TR; complacancy or apathy

16:30 Techrights-sec; yes, all system are not perfect, no that deviation from the ideal is not on

16:30 schestowitz-TR; yes, all system are not perfect, no that deviation from the ideal is not on

16:30 Techrights-sec; the same scale with windows

16:30 schestowitz-TR; the same scale with windows

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18:21 schestowitz-TR; will have drafts ready soon

18:21 schestowitz-TR; got holiday apporoved 10-11/52022

18:21 schestowitz-TR; 5/2022

18:21 schestowitz-TR; i have 26 days for the year, I get to choose when

18:21 schestowitz-TR; instead of fixed at quiet times like xmas

18:21 schestowitz-TR; I did not use any in March and April, in effect saving them for later

18:22 schestowitz-TR; drafts on the way, will quot you a little

18:23 Techrights-sec; 2 days?

18:23 Techrights-sec; nice

18:23 schestowitz-TR; I say to people that they can read more in IRC to avoid repetition

18:23 schestowitz-TR; and in #techrights main channel I've not participated much lately

18:23 schestowitz-TR; it's doing ok on its own, relatively speaking

18:23 Techrights-sec; the quotes are not of high quality though

18:25 Techrights-sec; good that IRC is being taken care of on that channel

18:26 schestowitz-TR; as you said, irc can be a "lot of work"

18:26 schestowitz-TR; also, it is real time so attention and focus are impacted

18:45 schestowitz; given what you sent me this morning, I had to check to see it's not conde nast

18:45 schestowitz; or some other nasty thing

18:45 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_(magazine)

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_(magazine)

18:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Variety (magazine) - Wikipedia

18:45 schestowitz; turns out Variety is VERYOLD

18:46 schestowitz-TR; draft (getting coffee)

18:59 Techrights-sec; it sometimes covers some relevant topics

18:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.homegrounds.co/how-long-should-i-boil-coffee-for/

↺ https://www.homegrounds.co/how-long-should-i-boil-coffee-for/

18:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.homegrounds.co | How Long Should I Boil Coffee For?


7 PM, April 27

19:01 schestowitz-TR; so far I saw nothing I disliked about it

19:01 schestowitz-TR; then again, similar weekly and daily "household" brands got scooped up by Condy Nasty and turned nasty

19:01 schestowitz-TR; Vanity Fair is one of them, IRC

19:01 schestowitz-TR; always reminds me of Variety

19:02 Techrights-sec; we'll see how well they continue to do, it's been rather good so far

19:02 Techrights-sec; They;ve been in the daily links since 2017

19:04 Techrights-sec; Vanity Fair is a whole different audience / genre

19:04 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazines)

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanity_Fair_(magazines)

19:04 Techrights-sec; That's Conde Nast

19:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Vanity Fair (magazines) - Wikipedia

19:05 Techrights-sec; I always feel I have to wash my hands or something after referring to Wikipedia

19:05 Techrights-sec; :(

19:06 schestowitz-TR; haha, you beat me to it

19:06 schestowitz-TR; I was literally about to open the same in wikipedia

19:06 schestowitz-TR; and did

19:06 schestowitz-TR; only to realise you already opened tyhe same page

19:06 schestowitz-TR; The Internet or Web lack high-quality sites andf those that are good or were good get bought, infiltrated, perturbe

19:06 schestowitz-TR; d

19:06 schestowitz-TR; because there is financial incentive to do this

19:06 schestowitz-TR; in paper form it's trickier to do this

19:06 schestowitz-TR; SEO, anon edits, threats, DDOS...

19:07 Techrights-sec; I don't trust it but it often contains links to sources that /are/ rather

19:07 Techrights-sec; authoritative

19:08 schestowitz-TR; or it REMOVED such links

19:08 schestowitz-TR; see OSI/Simmons

19:08 schestowitz-TR; because it's "toxic" to sugest some orgs like EPO or OSI don't defend their mission

19:09 schestowitz-TR; people who infiltrate orgs for eprsonal or corporate gain would do the same to sites that write about such org

19:09 schestowitz-TR; wikipedia, media...

19:34 Techrights-sec; often the good links get removed from wikipedia, like in the ODF fight M$ put up

19:35 schestowitz-TR; "sponsored" edits are the best edits (Jolliffe)

19:35 schestowitz-TR; The shadow "wikipedia economy"

19:35 schestowitz-TR; thank you, Microsoft

19:35 schestowitz-TR; finally there is a "business model"

19:35 schestowitz-TR; draft

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8 PM, April 27

20:53 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft lose more than 600 "top sites" this past month ago https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html

↺ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html

20:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.netcraft.com | April 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News

20:58 schestowitz-TR; *alone

20:58 schestowitz-TR; 1881 active capsules known to Lupa. 1900 shortly. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi


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