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00:01 TR News; Racist USA to China: we only want you for your sweatshops. Or your sweat and blood. Come build our rail systems and then GET THE HELL OUT https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/usas_plan_to_decouple_its/ see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act
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00:01 TR Bot; US plan to decouple its tech with China lacks a strategy The Register
00:01 TR Bot; Chinese Exclusion Act - Wikipedia
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00:04 TR News; NVIDIA 510.68.02 Linux driver... another dodgy blog that defeats the purpose of a freedom-respecting system like gnu+linux https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/187526/en-us
00:04 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: nvidia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/187526/en-us https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/187526/en-us
00:04 TR Bot; x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver | 510.68.02 | Linux 64-bit | NVIDIA
00:04 schestowitz-TR; *blob
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00:09 TR News; Neoliberals. The idea of outsourcing security to another (foreign) territory is ludicrous to say the least. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/india_eu_trade_and_technology_council/
00:09 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/india_eu_trade_and_technology_council/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/india_eu_trade_and_technology_council/
00:09 TR Bot; India inks tech pact with EU only US has the same deal The Register
00:10 TR News; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164184
00:10 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
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00:11 TR News; USA: we cannot trust China on security because we keep attacking and infiltrating Chinese system... and they MIGHT choose to retaliate. Hubris of Empire.
00:13 TR News; USA isn't spreading security to Ukraine. It sends more weapons that perpetuate the war and increase death tolls. This is the "STOP RESISTING!" 'world cop', asserting rather vainly that its own aggression and even war crimes are OK because "Well-meaning"... sometimes (exceptionalism). Same for back doors.
00:14 MinceR; they could (by glassing every important bit of terrorussia), but they chose not to
00:15 TR News; USA Inc.: our software and hardware back doors are for "security" and "trust", they're only weapons and malicious when OTHER nations do the same. All those other nations that never dropped nukes on civilians (we've dropped two!) and don't necessarily torture journalists to death.
00:15 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: there is a shortage of sand at the moment
00:15 schestowitz-TR; which means it's making glass more expensive and precious
00:16 schestowitz-TR; glassing russia would be counter to the sanctions
00:16 schestowitz-TR; russia would benefit from selling crystals
00:16 MinceR; well, the glass made by detonating thermonuclear warheads above military bases, silos and cities might not be of particularly high quality
00:16 MinceR; and it wouldn't consist of crystals
00:16 MinceR; glass is an amorphous solid
00:18 TR News; China is experimenting on its own people for hype, gimmicks and other crap that could be done (poorly in the 1990s) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/ponyai_lassos_first_autonomous_taxi/ no real purpose for this, pure yuppie crap
00:18 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/ponyai_lassos_first_autonomous_taxi/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/ponyai_lassos_first_autonomous_taxi/
00:18 TR Bot; Pony.ai wins first autonomous taxi license for China The Register
00:18 MinceR; also, it would have all sorts of impurities and it would be radioactive
00:19 schestowitz-TR; well, if it's made of russians
00:19 schestowitz-TR; radioactive... impurities./.. putin
00:19 schestowitz-TR; if putin gets glassed, then it's impure for sure
00:19 schestowitz-TR; anyway, it's a net cast too wide
00:20 schestowitz-TR; and even nuking a military base alone is hard
00:20 schestowitz-TR; you still leave lots of fallout fallen down in nearby towns
00:20 MinceR; isn't that what the usa and the ussr prepared to do in the first cold war?
00:20 schestowitz-TR; and that leads to many cancer patients in hospitals for years
00:20 schestowitz-TR; cruel
00:20 MinceR; and yeah, we might all die
00:20 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: yes
00:20 MinceR; but even that is better than becoming slaves to putler
00:21 schestowitz-TR; Terrorepubolicans
00:21 TR News; "This gets us emitting Valhall descriptors in the driver." https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/16035
00:22 TR Bot; panfrost: Valhall driver support (!16035) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
00:22 TR News; GraalVM CE 22.1 Released https://www.graalvm.org/release-notes/22_1/
00:22 TR Bot; GraalVM
00:23 MinceR; SangraalVM
00:23 schestowitz-TR; vanGaalVM
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00:30 TR News; Links 26/04/2022: LineageOS 19 and WordPress 6.0 Beta 3, More Goodbyes to Twitter | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/26/more-goodbyes-to-twitter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/26/more-goodbyes-to-twitter/
00:30 TR Bot; Links 26/04/2022: LineageOS 19 and WordPress 6.0 Beta 3, More Goodbyes to Twitter | Techrights
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00:31 TR News; Proprietary Junk, Graft, and Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164185
00:31 TR Bot; Proprietary Junk, Graft, and Security | Tux Machines
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00:38 TR News; What a match https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/manchester-city-v-real-madrid-brief-match-highlights-63786595
00:38 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mancity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/manchester-city-v-real-madrid-brief-match-highlights-63786595 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/manchester-city-v-real-madrid-brief-match-highlights-63786595
00:38 TR Bot; City 4-3 Real Madrid: Brief highlights
00:38 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/LIirEVM.jpeg
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00:39 bnchs__; anything new with steam deck?
00:39 TR News; "I love Python as a language. But the Python ecosystem is deeply broken on most systems. Just as with every ecosystem which tried to bypass good old "distributions" to put in place an user controlled rercursive dependencies system." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-03-29-call_to_packagers.gmi
00:40 TR News; KDE-FreeBSD CI | [bobulate] https://euroquis.nl//kde/2022/04/26/freebsd-ci.html Source: euroquis
00:40 TR Bot; KDE-FreeBSD CI | [bobulate]
00:43 TR News; 1) delete Windows. 2) use something better that works for you, not for criminals (Microsoft). https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-computer-notifications/
00:43 TR Bot; How to Disable Computer Notifications on Windows - Make Tech Easier
00:43 bnchs__; how to disable computer notifications
00:43 bnchs__; "To completely turn off Windows 11 notifications, uncheck the boxes for Offer suggestions on how I can set up my device and Get tips and suggestions when I use Windows."
00:44 bnchs__; no no no, no hohohoho
00:44 bnchs__; they actually do this?
00:44 MinceR; "look at the top of his head!"
00:46 TR News; I am increasingly certain Valve bought him as a shill("influencer") as he no longer covers Free software https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5-SVisyAQEI Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
00:46 TR Bot; 22 new features that landed in the BIGGEST Steam Deck update. Ever. - Invidious
00:48 TR News; A New Dynamic Wallpaper Maker for GNOME 42 Appears Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164186
00:48 TR Bot; A New Dynamic Wallpaper Maker for GNOME 42 Appears | Tux Machines
00:48 bnchs__; lol
00:48 bnchs__; gardiner has been shilling valve for many videos
00:49 schestowitz-TR; yes, this becomes obscenely obvious
00:49 schestowitz-TR; he used to be against drm
00:49 schestowitz-TR; did a whole video about techrights after we had done some research on drm in linux
00:49 schestowitz-TR; not his channel is a steam catalogue
00:49 bnchs__; he's been paid off
00:49 MinceR; in my experience, there's another way to disable "computer notifications" on Backdoors10: when it decides you're busy and mutes notifications (which seems to happen often), just leave it that way :>
00:51 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/c/GardinerBryant
00:51 TR Bot; Bryant | TLG - YouTube
00:51 schestowitz; the channel was RE-branded too
00:51 bnchs__; TLG
00:51 bnchs__; the linux.....
00:51 bnchs__; oh fuck
00:52 schestowitz-TR; wait
00:52 schestowitz-TR; did he just REMOVE the video about him getting a HOUSE?
00:52 schestowitz-TR; I cannot find it
00:53 bnchs__; memoryholed
00:53 schestowitz-TR; haha, I think he deleted it
00:53 schestowitz-TR; I should have saved a copy
00:53 bnchs__; god damn
00:53 schestowitz-TR; oh wait
00:53 schestowitz-TR; I found it
00:54 bnchs__; well you should download it anyway
00:54 bnchs__; if it ends up actually happening
00:54 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkfEySeHG8
00:54 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=RMkfEySeHG8
00:54 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | I installed SELF-HOSTED security cameras in the ABANDONED house I just bought! - Invidious
00:56 schestowitz-TR; he calls it abandoned
00:56 bnchs__; gabe newell looks like evil richard stallman
00:56 schestowitz-TR; like it was just "found there"
00:57 schestowitz-TR; "up for grabs"
00:57 schestowitz-TR; and then plans to spend a fortune renovating it
00:57 schestowitz-TR; that cannot be done on gulag ad money
00:57 schestowitz-TR; there's a lot of money
00:57 schestowitz-TR; from parents, maybe gabe..
00:57 schestowitz-TR; but this was just before the channel became a shrine to valve and steam deck
00:58 schestowitz-TR; this video reminds me of larabelk
00:58 bnchs__; he sponsored an amazon link
00:58 schestowitz-TR; with AMD
00:58 schestowitz-TR; psydruid and I joked about the worth of the gifts
00:58 bnchs__; in the description
00:58 bnchs__; this video is sponsored by synology
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 27.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 338.71
00:59 bnchs__; "smart" cameras with proprietary firmware
01:00 schestowitz-TR; there are ads/plugs in there
01:00 schestowitz-TR; anyway, gn
01:03 bnchs__; goodnight
01:04 bnchs__; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UkoeuC4trF4
01:04 TR Bot; RMS is back at the FSF: Proof they don't care about free software. - Invidious
01:04 bnchs__; made by the same guy who shills valve and steam deck
01:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Capital One thought they'd snow me under with a bunch of non-fillable PDFs.
01:14 DaemonFC; So I uploaded them all to a site that let me drop text in and put a signature on the letter, and then I went and submitted everything they asked for directly to their website.
01:14 DaemonFC; The batteries asshole is going to wish he had never met me.
01:16 DaemonFC; I included to mention that he made an obscene phone call to my house regarding me asking for the remote programming fee back.
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01:26 DaemonFC; Evil Richard Stallman.petition.github.mjg59_
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01:39 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/27/capital-one-tried-to-cause-me-to-miss-a-dispute-deadline-in-my-case-against-batteries-plus-bulbs/
01:39 TR Bot; Capital One tried to cause me to miss a dispute deadline in my case against Batteries Plus Bulbs. BaronHK's Rants
01:40 DaemonFC; "For extra measure, I called Bhushan Chouhan incompetent, unscrupulous, malicious and said he was acting in bad faith by attempting to keep my money for services that I did not receive, and that he made an obscene and harassing phone call and threatened to call the police because I am making this credit card dispute!."
01:44 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/windows_11_patch/
01:44 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/windows_11_patch/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/26/windows_11_patch/
01:44 TR Bot; Microsoft fixes 40-minute Point of Sale bug in Windows 11 The Register
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02:13 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-enterprise/aws-google-cloud-cost-management
02:13 TR Bot; Google Cloud offer limited cost-management cloud tools - Protocol
02:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Someone linked to a Geico internal email.
02:17 DaemonFC; It says that due to rising prices to repair cars after an accident and due to COVID letting up, leading to more driving and accidents, they are suspending the option to buy policies over the phone in many states.
02:17 DaemonFC; Now you'll have to use the mobile app or Web site, or find one of the local agents.
02:17 DaemonFC; They don't have very many agents.
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02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-260422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-260422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-260422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-260422.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 26, 2022
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 26, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-260422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-260422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-260422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-260422.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 26, 2022
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 26, 2022
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-26.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-26.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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03:05 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 327832 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40334 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 17 days ago
03:06 DaemonFC; Geico's app doesn't seem to actually detect about a third of the trips I take in the car.
03:06 DaemonFC; :P
03:06 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 20 GB TotalOut: 4.3 GB
03:07 DaemonFC; I guess that's a good thing. One thing it gauges for risk is how many miles you drive.
03:07 DaemonFC; They have it set up so that most people get at least _some_ policy discount from using the app.
03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:08 DaemonFC; Most insurers set things up like this intentionally. They don't want all their customers to get mad and cancel their policies, but at the same time they'd like to hike rates on the worst 5-6% of their drivers to get rid of high risk policies.
03:09 IPFS; QmUeQTHKAjJ9v96gsDvCYLFh5GgXDKixWCuPqS4a8BmfQU
03:09 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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03:49 DaemonFC; https://jalopnik.com/the-1990-chevrolet-lumina-is-the-official-car-of-disney-5980334
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03:49 TR Bot; 'The 1990 Chevrolet Lumina Is The Official Car Of Disney-MGM Studios'
03:51 DaemonFC; "Clearcoat paint is standard." Yeah, it peeled too.
03:51 DaemonFC; I got the 1992 Lumina from my dad and drove it for a while. It held up mechanically quite well.
03:52 DaemonFC; But the body was pretty ugly from clearcoat peeling.
03:56 DaemonFC; There is no throttle linkage on my Buick. They completely removed the accelerator cable.
03:56 DaemonFC; There's an electronic sensor and motor for the throttle body.
03:57 DaemonFC; "A great lineup of affordable family vehicles."
03:57 DaemonFC; Oh my how things have changed.
03:57 DaemonFC; Junk from Mexico....$60,000.
03:58 DaemonFC; Payments that go on for 7 years.
03:58 DaemonFC; This would have been so absurd back in the 80s and 90s that nobody would have believed it.
03:58 DaemonFC; I mean, sure people financed cars all the time, but I can't remember anyone getting a car loan that went on past 4-5 years.
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03:59 DaemonFC; Now they go out 7 or 8 years because there's no other way to get the monthly payment to where people could possibly do it.
04:00 DaemonFC; https://jalopnik.com/at-14-750-is-this-1995-bmw-750il-a-pretty-good-deal-1848836405
04:00 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jalopnik.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jalopnik.com/at-14-750-is-this-1995-bmw-750il-a-pretty-good-deal-1848836405 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jalopnik.com/at-14-750-is-this-1995-bmw-750il-a-pretty-good-deal-1848836405
04:00 TR Bot; At $14,750, Is This 1995 BMW 750iL A Pretty Good Deal?
04:01 DaemonFC; Well I can't say I like how cramped the engine bay is, but that's something all BMWs suffer from. Looks like there's at least less plastic in a 1995.
04:02 DaemonFC; The interior leather seats and console look like something out of 90s Star Trek.
04:02 MinceR; too bad it's 27 years old so it's a miracle there's something left of it that you can show to people who are not using a microscope
04:04 DaemonFC; MinceR, My Buick is holding up well for being 14 years old.
04:04 DaemonFC; Although I did have to replace a lot of wear items and flush out all the fluids.
04:05 DaemonFC; It runs really well now though.
04:06 DaemonFC; It got a brake job yesterday. Pads, rotors....had the fluid flushed out at Chevy when I was up there anyway for something else.
04:06 DaemonFC; Two new front wheel hub bearings.
04:06 DaemonFC; One had seized up.
04:06 DaemonFC; The car was just kind of pushing it along.
04:07 DaemonFC; The powertrain seems to be in fine shape though.
04:07 DaemonFC; If I ever do lose the radiator, it's not going to be an OE radiator that replaces it. It'll be one of those ones from China. It's kind of hard to screw up a radiator, so there's really no reason to buy an OE one.
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04:08 DaemonFC; But the flush job seemed to clear out all of the gunk.
04:08 DaemonFC; MinceR, That's sort of the secret to car ownership.
04:08 DaemonFC; You learn where you need OE parts and where you really don't.
04:09 DaemonFC; Anything that really takes a lot of abuse, you have to be careful what you buy. AutoZone will sell you a belt tensioner for the Buick for $50, but it won't be a quality part.
04:09 DaemonFC; I made the mistake on my Taurus of using an AutoZone belt tensioner and it was broken again within 2 years.
04:11 DaemonFC; MinceR, I heard a good one the other day.
04:11 DaemonFC; Landlords are almost all Republicans, and they complain about people on welfare sitting around waiting for money to appear.
04:11 DaemonFC; Irony.
04:12 DaemonFC; My landlord doesn't drive a luxury car though, at least.
04:12 DaemonFC; He drives an early 2000s Ford Explorer.
04:13 DaemonFC; It's nice to know that he's not jacking up our rent and then driving a $90,000 car with it, you know.
04:21 DaemonFC; MinceR, Pads and rotors on both axles and two wheel hub bearings on the Buick was cheaper than just a wheel hub bearing for MARISOL's BMW.
04:21 DaemonFC; Nice, huh?
04:21 DaemonFC; THey have gourmet coffee at BMW!
04:24 DaemonFC; MinceR, I have a BMW joke for you.
04:24 DaemonFC; Knock Knock.
04:25 DaemonFC; Who
04:25 DaemonFC; Err, Who's there?
04:25 DaemonFC; Cylinder 5!
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04:31 DaemonFC; Scotty Kilmer got a reader question about running over a porcupine and ending up with quills in his tire and asking if he should leave it alone or take them out, and Kilmer says leave them in until you can get to the shop and just replace the tire. "I don't know if insurance covers porcupine damage.".
04:32 DaemonFC; They actually will if you have comprehensive, but it's probably not worth filing a claim.
04:32 inbloom; american cars breakdown alot
04:33 DaemonFC; I mean, maybe if the tires are really expensive tires or something. Like you're a MARISOL and just got conned into paying $1,600 for four tires, and your insurance deductible is $500, you may get a $900 check if you ran over some porcupines and they poppes all of your tires.
04:33 inbloom; use to much gaz
04:33 DaemonFC; The Buick doesn't use that much for a 3800 V6.
04:33 inbloom; the metal corrodes fast and they use to much
04:33 inbloom; they drive like bathtube
04:34 DaemonFC; Even before the wheel hubs in the front got replaced yesterday because of one that was dragging, I was getting 20 in the city in it.
04:34 DaemonFC; Which is better than the Impala.
04:34 inbloom; the seats look like sofas
04:34 DaemonFC; The KIA was only getting like 24, and that wasn't a really big or powerful car.
04:34 DaemonFC; The KIA engines are just built like crap.
04:35 DaemonFC; They burn oil, they catch on fire, they're not efficient for their displacement and cylinder count and the weight of the vehicle.
04:36 inbloom; killed in action
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04:38 DaemonFC; https://www.boucherkia.com/blog/what-does-the-kia-eco-button-do/
04:38 TR Bot; What does the Kia Eco button do?
04:38 DaemonFC; "When the Active Eco System is activated, drivers may experience reduced acceleration performance, limited air conditioner function, a different shift pattern and a louder engine all occurrences happening to improve gas mileage."
04:39 DaemonFC; Oh good. Lousy engine performance, crappy air conditioning, and noise.
04:39 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
04:40 DaemonFC; How, exactly, does making the engine noisier improve fuel economy?
04:43 inbloom; DaemonFC is some guy out from the mad max movie
04:43 DaemonFC; The Buick is going in next week for rust repair so it's back to driving the Impala around for a little while.
04:44 DaemonFC; There's not much rust on the Buick considering the age, but I intend to get rid of the body rust. The undercarriage looks really good.
04:44 DaemonFC; The gas tank might even be new.
04:44 inbloom; its not rust it patina
04:48 inbloom; https://variety.com/2022/film/news/anya-taylor-joy-furiosa-mad-max-1235236776/
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04:48 TR Bot; Anya Taylor-Joy Shave Her Head for Mad Max Prequel Furiosa? - Variety
04:51 inbloom; Buick costs a buck
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 392.73
05:02 inbloom; hey DaemonFC have you gone for a drive?
05:02 inbloom; you can irc and drive on a tesla
05:03 DaemonFC; Not a great idea, really.
05:04 inbloom; its legal
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06:24 matey; so the thing about reproducible builds vs "who wrote what" is...
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06:25 matey; reproducible builds can be automated and proven, consensus can be reached on whether its verified
06:25 matey; who wrote what (in terms of credits being available) is mostly a solved problem
06:25 matey; who not to trust will never be a solved problem
06:26 matey; however, lets say it WAS solved
06:26 matey; even if you trusted everyone who wrote the code, thats misses the point doesnt it?
06:26 matey; because to know whose code was in the binary...
06:26 matey; youd need some way to verify the build...
06:26 matey; and now (hopefully) you understand why this is solving what CAN be solved and (not only that) what has to be solved
06:27 matey; for the "who to trust" thing to even make it into the binary
06:27 matey; (of course this is common sense)
06:27 inbloom; trust no one
06:27 matey; he changed that to "trust everyone" in another episode
06:28 inbloom; who?
06:28 matey; mulder
06:28 matey; /me doesnt trust people who say "trust no one" because its what they would want (probably)
06:28 psydruid; stop resisting and trust everyone
06:28 matey; unless theyre lying, then its moot
06:29 inbloom; you can trust them to lie
06:29 matey; only in labyrinth
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06:31 matey; of course calling something a "verifiable build" when it contains blobs is funny
06:31 matey; you could take a completely unverified build, put that blob in a verifiable build process and call the output "verifiable"
06:32 psydruid; a verifiably unverifiable build
06:32 matey; which is cynical, but mostly an illustration of how funny the idea of "reproducible builds" with blobs is
06:32 matey; s/verified/reproducible/ s/verifiable/reproducible/
06:33 matey; /me thinks a reproducible build with unreproducible blobs should be called a farcical build, but this isnt a knock on the process itself
06:34 matey; if its applied to a blobless source then its not as silly
06:34 matey; however, i suspect the whole thing will be used to sell things like flatcrap
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06:35 matey; i mean in practice, people will use it as a lever to say "why bother with source?"
06:36 matey; "this is literally the exact binary you would get if you made it yourself"
06:36 matey; and since they wont verify every system, im sure...
06:37 matey; it will be used to push certain build systems over others as "secure build" vs not
06:37 psydruid; I remember getting some GNOME application to build was so hard that they recommended just installing the flatcrap
06:37 matey; none of which means its a bad idea
06:37 matey; but even good ideas can have terrible side effects
06:38 psydruid; Fractal, that is
06:39 SomeH4x0r; hi
06:39 matey; o/
06:39 SomeH4x0r; barto did appear for a few minutes yesterday
06:39 matey; okay
06:40 matey; /me moves the earth to make it work
06:40 matey; /me realises its silly and puts it back
06:55 *psydruid verifiably reproduces the earth and obtains a flawed replica that can absolutely not be trusted to spin around its axis in the right direction
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06:58 matey; <psydruid> ACTION verifiably reproduces the earth and obtains a flawed replica that can absolutely not be trusted to spin around its axis in the right direction <- even that would be less trouble than trying to chat in every irc channel at the same time
06:59 matey; the barriers between channels is a feature. of course, some people would like to bridge all the channels, and thats fine for the people who want that
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 27.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 318.21
07:00 matey; but very large channels tend to stifle conversation
07:00 matey; and simulating a very large channel just makes the whole thing read like an appointment book
07:01 matey; and every appointment is about a hypothetical conversation that rarely ever happens
07:02 matey; id rather just use the channel according to its basic design. if other people want to try to squeeze more out of the various networks, theyre free to
07:02 matey; but for me it does very little, its just extra work without much payoff
07:03 matey; the puritan farmer approach to irc, till the soil until there are no minerals left to support crop growth
07:08 inbloom; will elon musk buy irc too?
07:10 matey; he already did, under the pseudonym of andrew lee
07:10 matey; and it had exactly the opposite effect promised
07:10 matey; freenode went from awful to worthless, and everyone moved to an even LESS free irc
07:11 matey; it was supposed to be some sort of renaissance
07:11 matey; instead it was more of an impressionist
07:12 matey; though tbh, killing the freenode monopoly wasnt all bad
07:12 matey; you could argue that it needed to die
07:13 matey; but just like the fsf, there were so many ways to fight that didnt leave us worse off
07:13 matey; i mean, even if killing freenode was a given, there were better ways with better outcomes
07:14 matey; we didnt have to kill it with pure stupidity which is what happened
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07:14 matey; same thing happened to debian
07:15 matey; although im pretty sure ibm isnt a pseudonym elon
07:15 matey; hey!
07:15 matey; he should buy ibm
07:15 matey; now that would be hilarious
07:15 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, April 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:15 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:15 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:15 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:15 matey; fuck twitter, buy big blue
07:15 matey; they can teach his cars to play chess
07:17 psydruid; everything that is good must come to an end
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07:18 TR News; "A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon." https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-04/msg00037.html
07:18 TR Bot; Re: thank you elon musk
07:22 TR News; "Online security is one of those topics that seems to pop up everywhere, all the time." https://today.rtl.lu/entertainment/do-s-and-don-ts/a/1903157.html | Source: RTL
07:22 TR Bot; RTL Today - Do's and Don'ts: Online security
07:23 TR News; "Some containers just aren't meant to be connected directly to the internet." https://yarmo.eu/blog/wireguard-docker/ | Source: Yarmo Machenbach
07:23 TR Bot; Wireguard and docker: providing VPN access to arbitrary containers
07:23 TR News; "Monitoring your 3D-Printer with a Raspberry Pi is nothing new" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-3d-printer-monitor | Source: Tom's Hardware
07:23 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico Monitors 3D Printer and Sends Telegram Notifications | Tom's Hardware
07:23 TR News; "limitations of libvirt is that it doesn't support making snapshots of virtual machines that use UEFI instead of BIOS booting" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LibvirtUEFISnapshots | Source: uni Toronto
07:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LibvirtUEFISnapshots https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LibvirtUEFISnapshots
07:23 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/LibvirtUEFISnapshots
07:23 TR News; "One^wTwo days late for 4/20, I return to discuss equipment authorization" https://computer.rip/2022-04-22-regulating-radiation.html | Source: Computers Are Bad
07:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: computer.rip | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://computer.rip/2022-04-22-regulating-radiation.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://computer.rip/2022-04-22-regulating-radiation.html
07:23 TR Bot; Computers Are Bad
07:24 TR News; "TempleOS had interesting new ideas about how different kinds of data like text, images, and 3D models could be freely mixed" https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/ |
07:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: palladiummag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://palladiummag.com/2022/04/01/palladium-is-now-templeos/
07:24 TR Bot; Terry Davis Was Right
07:25 TR News; "To reduce distractions, notifications for available updates are set to show weekly by default" https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed | Source: Systemd 76
07:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: system76.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.system76.com/post/682519660741148672/popos-2204-lts-has-landed
07:25 TR Bot; System76 Blog Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS has landed!
07:26 TR News; "The head of Canonical, the company behind the Ubuntu Linux distribution, claims it recorded a profit of US$175 million (A$237.7 million) in 2021 and is likely to undertake an IPO in 2023" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/canonical-may-go-public-in-2023,-claims-us$175m-profit-last-year.html | Source: IT Wire
07:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/canonical-may-go-public-in-2023,-claims-us$175m-profit-last-year.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/canonical-may-go-public-in-2023,-claims-us$175m-profit-last-year.html
07:26 TR Bot; - Canonical may go public in 2023, claims US$175m profit last year
07:26 activelow; mission of today: switching back to ISO8859-1, non-Unicode, removal of microsoft truetype
07:26 TR News; "One of the applications that can help organisations develop modern web-based applications is MongoDB" https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb | Source: Ubuntu
07:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-mongodb
07:26 TR Bot; is MongoDB and why use it for modern web applications? | Ubuntu
07:27 activelow; of cause, i will evaluate options, to retain unicode support, within Vim for example, and wherever else unicode is necessary
07:27 TR News; "If youre interested in the intersection of the right to repair with law and policy, youll want to set aside some time" https://securepairs.org/friday-symposium-on-right-to-repair/ | Source: Securepairs
07:27 TR Bot; SecuRepairs at Symposium on Right To Repair securepairs.org
07:27 TR News; "The 2022 edition is about Open, Privacy, and Trust." https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/open-belgium-2022 | Source: Joinup
07:27 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/open-belgium-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/event/open-belgium-2022
07:27 TR Bot; Open Belgium 2022 | Joinup
07:27 activelow; however, i will no longer accept Unicode as default, and i will remove Microsoft TrueType here, and together with it everything which depends on it
07:28 TR News; "Build steps are great. I use them all the time. But they do come at a cost" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/progressively-enhanced-builds/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
07:28 TR Bot; Progressively Enhanced Builds - Jim Nielsens Blog
07:28 TR News; "This post explores the new type-based optimizations in Erlang/OTP 25 where the compiler embeds type information in the BEAM file" https://www.erlang.org/blog/type-based-optimizations-in-the-jit/ | Source: Erlang
07:28 TR Bot; Type-Based Optimizations in the JIT - Erlang/OTP
07:28 activelow; ISO codepages, had proven sufficient for 50years... and guess what, nowadays i haven't got DEC VT240 support with linux framebuffer console at least
07:28 TR News; "USB-C is a mess. The way manufacturers implement and communicate its features is confusing and downright misleading at times" https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/usb-c-implementation-messy-and-unclear/ | Source: Digital Trends
07:28 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: digitaltrends.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/usb-c-implementation-messy-and-unclear/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/usb-c-implementation-messy-and-unclear/
07:28 TR Bot; USB-C Was Supposed to Be a Utopia, But It's Become a Nightmare | Digital Trends
07:28 activelow; instead, i got unicode to render hieroglyphs into console
07:29 matey; /me tries to guess how truetype=microsoft
07:29 TR News; "Newsletters are the latest shiny thing that a lot of content creators are gravitating toward." https://kevq.uk/why-are-newsletters-so-painful/ | Source: Kev Quirk
07:29 TR Bot; Why Are Newsletters So Painful? - Kev Quirk
07:29 TR News; "Dear microbreweries, Maybe instead of your 12th double IPA" https://www.salon.com/2022/04/26/the-ipa-is-dead-long-live-the-ipa-why-the-love-it-or-hate-it-beer-is-here-to-stay/ | Source: Salon
07:29 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/26/the-ipa-is-dead-long-live-the-ipa-why-the-love-it-or-hate-it-beer-is-here-to-stay/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/26/the-ipa-is-dead-long-live-the-ipa-why-the-love-it-or-hate-it-beer-is-here-to-stay/
07:29 TR Bot; IPA is dead, long live the IPA: Why the love-it-or-hate-it beer is here to stay | Salon.com
07:29 matey; i thought apple and/or adobe did truetype, and apple was the earliest proponent
07:29 TR News; "A Merkle tree is a tree of interconnected hashes." https://matt-rickard.com/merkle-tr/ | Source: Matt Rickard
07:29 TR Bot; Merkle Trees
07:29 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/merkle-tr/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/merkle-tr/
07:30 matey; ISO codepages, had proven sufficient for 50years... <- by that argument, most of the human existence happened without computers altogether
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07:30 TR News; "There have been multiple reports recently concerning the impacts of the extended pandemic lockdowns on the computer industry" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-covid-lockdowns-laptop-shortages | Source: Tom's Hardware
07:30 TR Bot; Laptop Component Shortages Intensify as China Covid Lockdowns Linger | Tom's Hardware
07:30 activelow; matey: yet couldn't have sent spaceshuttle to the moon without it, DEC VT
07:31 matey; fair enough
07:31 activelow; matey: and i think, this is another missing puzzle, the problem NASA had, when trying to source i8086 era parts
07:31 activelow; remember, vector graphics support within terminal console
07:32 TR News; "Lately, however, those bonds have frayed as Apple has shown an increasing willingness to ignore the things pro-level users want" https://jasonlefkowitz.net/2016/10/why-apple-doesnt-care-about-professional-mac-users-anymore/ |
07:32 TR Bot; Why Apple doesn't care about professional Mac users anymore - Just Well Mixed
07:32 activelow; z80/i8086 era DEC VT and Tektronix could do it; linux framebuffer console cannot
07:32 activelow; instead i got Mapple TrueType and Unicode...
07:32 activelow; which will be, removed, today
07:32 matey; mapple, huh :)
07:33 TR News; "net profit actually dropped to $16.4 billion" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/26/23043402/google-alphabet-youtube-q1-2022-earnings | Source: The Verge
07:33 TR Bot; Google parent Alphabets Q1 profits dropped by more than $1 billion compared to 2021 - The Verge
07:33 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cyberscoop.com/fbi-warns-agricultural-sector-ransomware/ | Source: Scoop News Group
07:33 TR Bot; warns agricultural sector of heightened risk of ransomware attacks - CyberScoop
07:33 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://yle.fi/news/3-12417602 | Source: YLE
07:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: yle.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://yle.fi/news/3-12417602 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://yle.fi/news/3-12417602
07:33 TR Bot; Cyber attack hits upscale Helsinki hotels affecting 15k customers | News | Yle Uutiset
07:33 activelow; and it is possible, to have unicode support without it... i think by integrating iconv with Vim, or similar
07:33 matey; z80/i8086 era DEC VT and Tektronix could do it; linux framebuffer console cannot <- now seems like a good time to point out that linux itself may be the culprit here
07:33 matey; i mean
07:34 matey; while bsd carried unix forward
07:34 TR News; "YouTube advertising sales for the first three months of 2022 grew 14%, to reach $6.87 billion" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/youtube-q1-2022-ad-revenue-slows-alphabet-earnings-1235241508/ | Source: Variety (they drive out the users by 'SPAMMING' them with ads, nonstop!!!)
07:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/youtube-q1-2022-ad-revenue-slows-alphabet-earnings-1235241508/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/youtube-q1-2022-ad-revenue-slows-alphabet-earnings-1235241508/
07:34 TR Bot; Q1: YouTube Ad Revenue Growth Slows Dramatically - Variety
07:34 matey; linux reinvented it into what we have now
07:34 matey; from the perspective of linus at least
07:34 matey; gnu at least, wrote a free compiler
07:35 activelow; good question, if any of the *BSD supported DEC VT240/340 or Tektronix, on their framebuffer console, doubt they could
07:35 activelow; not free anymore, to my understanding
07:35 matey; free at one point
07:36 matey; doubt they could <- they dont like to maintain code that hardly anybody is using
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07:36 activelow; btw. this is what i found: https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/index.php/Notcurses
07:36 TR Bot; Notcurses - dankwiki, the wiki of nick black
07:37 matey; and what is the advantage over curses?
07:37 activelow; this library does Sixel
07:37 matey; oh
07:37 matey; cool
07:39 TR News; "Fidelity will soon start allowing eligible individuals to save a portion of their 401(k) in fakecoin" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/26/23043424/fidelity-rolling-out-bitcoin-investing-401-k-plans-cryptocurrency-microstrategy | Source: The Verge
07:39 TR Bot; Fidelity is rolling out Bitcoin investing for 401(k) plans - The Verge
07:39 TR News; "Bitcoin mining uses more electricity than all the electricity consumption done by Sweden" https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/crypto/a-software-code-change-would-reduce-bitcoins-energy-use-by-99-9-climate-groups-7852046/ | Source: Indian Express
07:40 TR Bot; A software code change would reduce Bitcoins energy use by 99.9%: Climate groups
07:40 activelow; for now i'll ditch the suckless.org st simple terminal, because it requires Mapple freetype/fontconfig
07:41 activelow; rxvt, the non-unicode version of it, should be fine, and i still got linux framebuffer console with a sufficient font
07:42 TR News; "employee revolt Musk is likely to face as he seeks to overhaul Twitter" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2022/04/26/twitter-staff-uproar-elon-musks-plans-social-media-giant/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
07:42 TR Bot; Twitter staff in uproar over Elon Musk's plans for the social media giant
07:42 TR News; "Mandiant has a reputation for attributing attacks, be they mounted through the use of zero-days or not" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/mandiant-no-reasonable-confidence-about-zero-day-attacks-by-western-states.html | Source: IT Wire
07:42 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/mandiant-no-reasonable-confidence-about-zero-day-attacks-by-western-states.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/mandiant-no-reasonable-confidence-about-zero-day-attacks-by-western-states.html
07:42 TR Bot; - Mandiant: no 'reasonable confidence' about zero-day attacks by Western states
07:43 TR News; "Twitter was flooded with user reports of high-profile accounts losing thousands of followers" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-says-mass-deactivations-musk-news-organic-rcna26182 | Source: NBC
07:43 TR Bot; Twitter says mass deactivations after Musk news were organic
07:43 TR News; "According to an NBC News report published Tuesday, the follower numbers for some of Twitters most-followed accounts" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/twitter-deactivations-elon-musks-takeover-1235136168/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
07:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/twitter-deactivations-elon-musks-takeover-1235136168/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/twitter-deactivations-elon-musks-takeover-1235136168/
07:43 TR Bot; Thousands of Twitter Users Are Deactivating After Musk Takeover The Hollywood Reporter
07:44 TR News; "Its a high ideal that has been invoked repeatedly over the years by executives of the Internets biggest companies" https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/elon-musk-twitter-free-spech-india-donald-trump-bots-7887847/ | Source: Indian Express
07:44 TR Bot; Elon Musks Twitter: How his free speech argument could play out in India | Explained News,The Indian Express
07:44 TR News; "Given Twitter is a global service, it will have to follow the idea of free speech as defined by each countrys laws, at least if one goes by Musks definition for now." https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/elon-musk-free-speech-twitter-deal-censorship-7889094/ | Source: Indian Express
07:44 TR Bot; Against censorship that goes far beyond the law: Elon Musk on free speech post-Twitter deal | Technology News,The Indian Express
07:45 TR News; "Elon, there are rules" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2317454-elon-musk-buying-twitter-has-set-him-up-for-a-scuffle-with-the-eu/ | Source: New Scientist
07:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newscientist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2317454-elon-musk-buying-twitter-has-set-him-up-for-a-scuffle-with-the-eu/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newscientist.com/article/2317454-elon-musk-buying-twitter-has-set-him-up-for-a-scuffle-with-the-eu/
07:45 TR Bot; Elon Musk buying Twitter has set him up for a scuffle with the EU | New Scientist
07:45 activelow; the history of Unicode, beginning in 1990, at that time, ISO wasn't good enough anymore, says wikipedia, for global data exchange
07:45 TR News; "As people express their concern over the fact that Twitter may henceforth be an unmoderated platform" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/i-am-against-censorship-that-goes-far-beyond-the-law-elon-musk-clarifies-what-he-means-by-free-speech-on-twitter/articleshow/91115297.cms | Source: India Times
07:45 TR Bot; Elon Musk: I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law. Elon Musk clarifies what he means by free speech on Twitter - The Economic Times
07:46 TR News; "left Twitter users high and dry as they did not understand what Musk actually meant by free speech on Twitter." https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/elon-musk-explains-what-he-meant-by-free-speech-for-twitter-if-people-want-101651018220784.html | Source: Hindustan Times
07:46 TR Bot; Elon Musk explains what he meant by free speech for Twitter: If people want | World News - Hindustan Times
07:46 activelow; the first, to seek support with unicode, were arab/hebrew/hindi ... i see, the same who we have to thank for harfbuzz library
07:46 TR News; "In other words, hes got four main ideas for unlocking Twitters potential, and every single one is a huge can of worms" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/26/23040879/elon-musk-twitter-plans-free-speech-bots-anonymity-algorithm-open-source | Source: The Verge
07:46 TR Bot; Elon Musks Twitter plans are a huge can of worms - The Verge
07:46 activelow; besides, kyrillic/greek and the CJK variants demonstrated, they could do without it, without Unicode, without harfbuzz...
07:47 TR News; His very presence dooms the site https://www.axios.com/elon-musk-twitter-changes-45dfb4c3-ff60-455d-b976-fc78bab8530f.html | Source: Axios
07:47 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: axios.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.axios.com/elon-musk-twitter-changes-45dfb4c3-ff60-455d-b976-fc78bab8530f.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.axios.com/elon-musk-twitter-changes-45dfb4c3-ff60-455d-b976-fc78bab8530f.html
07:47 TR Bot; Everything Elon Musk wants to change about Twitter
07:47 TR News; "Once they come into force, there will need to be greater transparency around why content is recommended to users" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61225355 | Source: BBC
07:47 TR Bot; Elon Musk warned he must protect Twitter users - BBC News
07:47 activelow; so, what were the technicalities and politics, to push Unicode, Mapple TrueType, and the GNOMEification of *unix?
07:47 TR News; "He proposes to authenticate all users" https://www.economist.com/business/elon-musk-is-taking-twitters-public-square-private/21808958 | Source: The Economist
07:47 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/elon-musk-is-taking-twitters-public-square-private/21808958 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.economist.com/business/elon-musk-is-taking-twitters-public-square-private/21808958
07:47 TR Bot; Musk is taking Twitters public square private | The Economist
07:48 TR News; "Here are five things well be watching as details of the companys new makeup become public" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/overnights/3466175-hillicon-valley-five-things-to-watch-on-musks-twitter-deal/ | Source: The Hill
07:48 TR Bot; Hillicon Valley Five things to watch on Musks Twitter deal | The Hill
07:49 TR News; "The father of woman killed by ISIS asks the U.S. Supreme Court to consider a case involving algorithms, terrorism, and free speech." https://reason.com/2022/04/25/youtube-isis-videos-mean-the-supreme-court-could-reconsider-section-230/ | Source: Reason
07:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: reason.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://reason.com/2022/04/25/youtube-isis-videos-mean-the-supreme-court-could-reconsider-section-230/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://reason.com/2022/04/25/youtube-isis-videos-mean-the-supreme-court-could-reconsider-section-230/
07:49 TR Bot; YouTube ISIS Videos Mean the Supreme Court Could Reconsider Section 230
07:49 TR News; Pros and Cons of Using React Native for Mobile Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164187
07:49 TR Bot; Pros and Cons of Using React Native for Mobile Development | Tux Machines
07:51 TR News; "a delegation from the EPs Internal Market Committee will visit several company headquarters" https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220412IPR27111/digital-services-act-agreement-for-a-transparent-and-safe-online-environment | Source: European Parliament
07:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220412IPR27111/digital-services-act-agreement-for-a-transparent-and-safe-online-environment https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220412IPR27111/digital-services-act-agreement-for-a-transparent-and-safe-online-environment
07:51 TR Bot; Digital Services Act: agreement for a transparent and safe online environment | News | European Parliament
07:51 TR News; "WikiLeaks promptly released the war logs that were published by a host of media organisations and exposed human rights abuses" https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-julian-assange-us-extradition-wikileaks-7884667/ | Source: Indian Express
07:51 TR Bot; Explained: Julian Assange extradition order and charges against the Wikileaks founder | Explained News,The Indian Express
07:51 TR News; "In 2010, the portal published thousands of classified files and diplomatic cables that shook the world" https://dailypost.ng/2022/04/20/wikileaks-uk-court-orders-extradition-of-julian-assange-to-us/ | Source: Daily Post
07:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: dailypost.ng | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dailypost.ng/2022/04/20/wikileaks-uk-court-orders-extradition-of-julian-assange-to-us/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://dailypost.ng/2022/04/20/wikileaks-uk-court-orders-extradition-of-julian-assange-to-us/
07:51 TR Bot; WikiLeaks: UK court orders extradition of Julian Assange to US - Daily Post Nigeria
07:51 matey; at a guess i would say bill gates is a jewish reptilian democrat communist who REALLY likes hindi
07:53 TR News; GNU/Linux and censorship https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/linux,-censorship,-and-activism:5 takes about 3 minutes to get going
07:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/linux,-censorship,-and-activism:5 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/linux,-censorship,-and-activism:5
07:53 TR Bot; Linux, Censorship, and Activism
07:54 TR News; "Their [the states] success is our success" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/ntia-head-reiterates-need-for-states-to-step-up-on-broadband-infrastructure/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
07:54 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/ntia-head-reiterates-need-for-states-to-step-up-on-broadband-infrastructure/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/ntia-head-reiterates-need-for-states-to-step-up-on-broadband-infrastructure/
07:54 TR Bot; NTIA Head Reiterates Need for States to Step Up for Broadband Infrastructure Funds : Broadband Breakfast
07:54 TR News; "The vacation rental market will increase 20% in 2022 due to demand for accommodation from digital nomads" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fast-internet-digital-nomads-mexico/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
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07:54 TR Bot; Fast internet and a clean room: what digital nomads want in Mexico
07:55 matey; though from a scholarly standpoint, i would say that 8 bits is pretty modest limitation for handling both code and international text
07:55 matey; i mean, we used to be able to transmit text with ONLY FIVE bits
07:56 matey; just who should we blame for ascii bloating it up to 7?
07:56 matey; baudot is all we need
07:56 activelow; checked it: fonconfig it is, which GTK2/3 depend on, and with it Mapple TrueType
07:57 matey; its not that i love unicode, i find it a little bit hateful
07:57 activelow; ASCII contains more codes, to control teletype terminals for example... which aren't fully implemented anymore nowadays (VT340 sixels)
07:58 matey; but its the implementation i dislike, the idea itself is pretty cool
07:59 matey; which aren't fully implemented anymore nowadays (VT340 sixels) <- sixels are a cool idea
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 361.56
07:59 matey; im not sure why you dont consider them unnecessary bloat
08:00 matey; why should we fully implement VT340. with 25 users, when we could fully implement unicode, with millions of users?
08:00 activelow; you know what, the real selling point of Unicode: you can read Hebrew, Arab, Hindi, Farsi all at once in parallel
08:01 activelow; how many different characters? 4billions?
08:01 activelow; besides, the ISO standards are still: STANDARD
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08:02 matey; it probably got to the point where dealing with codepages seemed a bit silly
08:02 TR News; Heresy: Hare programming language an alternative to C http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164110#comment-33475
08:02 TR Bot; Announcing the Hare programming language | Tux Machines
08:03 matey; i mean suppose youre writing translation software
08:03 matey; every language you want to add, IF it has a codepage
08:03 activelow; furthermore, CJK and Greek/Kyrillic implemented in compliance with ISO, it is possible, without GNOMEification, without Unicode
08:03 matey; you need a number of the code page then a number for the glyph
08:04 matey; and as much as i dislike the unicode implementation
08:04 matey; im not sure tarring it with the same brush as gnome is fair
08:04 matey; gnome is evil
08:04 TR News; X.Org + Wine Developer Conference 2022 (4-6 October 2022): Overview Indico https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/2/
08:04 TR Bot; X.Org + Wine Developer Conference 2022 (4-6 October 2022): Overview Indico
08:04 activelow; another reasoning is, to keep an ASCII clean terminal, ideally with sixel vector graphics support - this is it
08:04 activelow; this is what i scientist had wanted, vector graphics with terminal
08:05 matey; first thing unicode did was decide on compatibility via its first 128 characters
08:05 TR News; Capital One tried to cause me to miss a dispute deadline in my case against Batteries Plus Bulbs. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/27/capital-one-tried-to-cause-me-to-miss-a-dispute-deadline-in-my-case-against-batteries-plus-bulbs/ Source: baronhk
08:05 TR Bot; Capital One tried to cause me to miss a dispute deadline in my case against Batteries Plus Bulbs. BaronHK's Rants
08:05 matey; unicode starts with ascii
08:05 activelow; GTK1 doesn't require fontconfig i think; motif (IEEE _standard_) doesn't require fontconfig... just saying
08:05 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164188
08:05 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
08:05 matey; GTK1 doesn't require fontconfig <- does it support unicode?
08:06 activelow; don't know, i'll not bother with it
08:06 activelow; sixel type vector graphics support is more impartant, than GIMP
08:06 activelow; *important
08:08 activelow; btw. i think it is possible to use GTK2.6 without it, Mapple TrueType/fontconfig, with GTKFB ... just in case, it's still there
08:08 TR News; SELinux is unmanageable; just turn it off if it gets in your way Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164189
08:08 TR Bot; SELinux is unmanageable; just turn it off if it gets in your way | Tux Machines
08:09 activelow; and as far as the question of unicode is concerned, integration with iconv is possible (inside Vim); CJK, greek, kyrillic are available with both X11 and linux framebuffer console
08:09 activelow; which is, alltogether, good enough
08:09 TR News; "Subjecting social control media users" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/eff-european-court-no-intermediary-liability-social-media-users | Source: EFF
08:09 TR Bot; EFF to European Court: No Intermediary Liability for Social Media Users | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:09 TR News; "Filternet" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/dsa-agreement-no-filternet-human-rights-concerns-remain | Source: EFF
08:09 TR Bot; DSA Agreement: No Filternet, But Human Rights Concerns Remain | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:09 matey; gtk1 doesnt support unicode
08:10 activelow; question is: does GTK1 or GTK2.6/GTKFB need unicode support, to show CJK, greek/kyrillic glyphs
08:10 matey; gtk2 uses pango
08:11 activelow; of cause, the Hebrew/Farsi/Arab/Hindi support is gone; nonetheless it is still possible to have it, GNOMEification with Mapple TrueType, Harfbuzz etc.
08:12 activelow; gtk2 is slighly confusing, because it seems not consistent among minor version bumps; gtk2.6 used an older pango version 1.8... moment
08:13 matey; i think we can rule out unicode as a jewish conspiracy
08:13 matey; Code page 862 ( CCSID 862) (also known as CP 862, IBM 00862, OEM 862 (Hebrew), MS-DOS Hebrew) is a code page used under DOS in Israel for Hebrew. Like ISO 8859-8, it encodes only letters, not vowel-points or cantillation marks.
08:13 matey; im not even slightly surprised that hebrew was (mostly) supported before 1990
08:14 activelow; matey: seems with pango-1.8 freetype/fontconfig are optional; meaning gtk-2.6/GTKFB and pango-1.8 do not need it... just in case i really want GTK2.6/GTKFB
08:14 activelow; first, i need a clean terminal
08:15 activelow; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode#History
08:15 TR Bot; Unicode - Wikipedia
08:16 activelow; "Unicode consortium"... California
08:17 matey; apparently the indian version of ascii is iscii
08:17 activelow; year 2020 they are: Adobe, Apple, Facebook, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Netflix, and SAP SE
08:17 matey; Indian Script Code for Information Interchange is a coding scheme for representing various writing systems of India. It encodes the main Indic scripts and a Roman transliteration. The supported scripts are: BengaliAssamese, Devanagari, Gujarati, Gurmukhi, Kannada, Malayalam, Oriya, Tamil, and Telugu.
08:18 matey; ISCII does not encode the writing systems of India that are based on Persian, but its writing system switching codes nonetheless provide for Kashmiri, Sindhi, Urdu, Persian, Pashto and Arabic.
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08:19 activelow; now we got support for that, and vector graphics support for framebuffer console is gone
08:20 activelow; i mean, concerning this, the TI-89 was more capable than any typical *nix terminal i had seen in the last 20 years
08:20 matey; no, you misunderstand
08:20 matey; that was available in dos, in the 1980s
08:21 matey; youre building a timeline that is full of non-facts and glaring omissions
08:21 activelow; without unicode however, you couldn't read more than of language of those all at once
08:21 matey; unicode wasnt created to support hebrew and hindi-- those were already supported
08:21 activelow; with ISO codepages it is ~190 character glyphs "only" within a single document
08:21 activelow; ^ harfbuzz was
08:22 matey; the argument ignores the fact that support for both existed regardless of whether youre talking about unicode or harfbuzz
08:23 activelow; brought to you, by Mapple, implemented by an Iranian accused of spying
08:23 matey; i mean if you want to make things up, sure
08:24 matey; /me accuses activelow of being a german spy
08:24 matey; there, now baphometos is created by a german nationalist accused of spying
08:24 matey; that was easy
08:24 matey; maybe too easy
08:24 activelow; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behdad_Esfahbod
08:24 TR Bot; Behdad Esfahbod - Wikipedia
08:24 matey; ive read it
08:25 matey; you sort of did
08:25 matey; you latch onto details but dont seem to love context very much
08:25 activelow; matey: i did study at Deutsche Telekom University, which predating 1990, did cooperate with Stasi, and after 1990 was closely associated with Bonn (former capital city of west-germany)
08:25 matey; instead they get glued together in curious ways
08:25 matey; sixels matter, unicode doesnt. thats pretty arbitrary
08:25 matey; i think both are cool sometimes
08:25 matey; why are sixels important
08:26 matey; theyre not
08:26 activelow; although, i am _not_ a spy, i a _not_ spying
08:26 activelow; it is very specific, not arbitrary
08:26 matey; both are standards, neither standard is relevant to everyone
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08:27 activelow; vector graphics support (with sixel one option of implementing it), for terminal
08:27 activelow; to provide a workflow, similar to what a TI89 could do, plot curves etc.
08:27 matey; okay
08:28 activelow; since you're saying it, yes, the TI89 series (Motorola) is defunct nowadays
08:28 activelow; and their firmware never was opensourced...
08:29 activelow; furthermore, the economic war and sabotage against global technology, isn't only an accusation, it's a fact
08:29 activelow; Adobe, Apple, Facebook, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Netflix, and SAP SE
08:30 activelow; with DEC VT and Tektronix type vector graphics support for scientific work on terminal, that's a regression, of 50 years already
08:31 matey; on an 80x25 character screen, sixels will give you a graphics resolution of 80x150
08:31 activelow; too, the entire east-german semiconductor and scientific apparatus are defunct
08:31 matey; the ti-89 has a resolution of 160x100
08:32 matey; sixels wont even give you the same pixel count
08:32 psydruid; what is the problem with Unicode implementations?
08:32 matey; its 75% the pixel count of the ti-89
08:32 TR News; Twitter = fraudster's sharecropping https://truthout.org/video/how-will-elon-musks-ownership-affect-twitter/ | Source: TruthOut
08:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/video/how-will-elon-musks-ownership-affect-twitter/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/video/how-will-elon-musks-ownership-affect-twitter/
08:32 TR Bot; How Will Elon Musk's Ownership Affect Twitter?
08:32 matey; and half the width
08:33 matey; but if you have a framebuffer, why arent you just using pixels?
08:33 TR News; Twitter = looters' booster https://fortune.com/2022/04/26/jeff-bezos-musk-twitter-china-censorship-leverage-tesla/
08:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: fortune.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fortune.com/2022/04/26/jeff-bezos-musk-twitter-china-censorship-leverage-tesla/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://fortune.com/2022/04/26/jeff-bezos-musk-twitter-china-censorship-leverage-tesla/
08:33 TR Bot; asks if Musk buying Twitter gives China censorship leverage on the platform | Fortune
08:33 TR News; BezosPost uses tweets (hearsay) in place of reliable sources https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/22/how-uk-intelligence-came-tweet-lowdown-war-ukraine/
08:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/22/how-uk-intelligence-came-tweet-lowdown-war-ukraine/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/22/how-uk-intelligence-came-tweet-lowdown-war-ukraine/
08:33 TR Bot; How U.K. intelligence came to tweet the lowdown on the war in Ukraine - The Washington Post
08:34 activelow; matey: sixels too served as a transfer format; for teletype terminals and printers attached with a telephone line and modem
08:34 matey; thats true
08:34 TR News; CC sucks. The leadership there changed. https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/25/creative-commons-welcomes-landmark-agreement-in-europe-on-digital-services-act/
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08:34 TR Bot; Creative Commons welcomes landmark agreement in Europe on Digital Services Act - Creative Commons
08:34 matey; because it maps to 7-bit ascii
08:34 activelow; which is/was, practical, and extremely efficient
08:34 matey; <psydruid> what is the problem with Unicode implementations? <- only that its impossible to open a fucking file
08:35 matey; and annoying to write one
08:35 TR News; "Lots of changes coming to the #Thunderbird #email client in the next three months." https://mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes/108188898971113056 https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/100.0beta/releasenotes/
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08:35 TR Bot; Ryan Sipes: "Friends of the #fediverse. Lots of changes coming" - Mastodon
08:35 TR Bot; Thunderbird Beta Notes (100.0beta) Thunderbird
08:35 matey; i mean "raw unicode" is no problem at all
08:35 matey; but the world doesnt use that
08:35 matey; it uses encodings
08:36 matey; and those are bastards
08:36 psydruid; why is it impossible to open a file and write one?
08:36 matey; its not, its just a complete pain in the dick
08:36 TR News; "Petition - Australian Standards Should be FREE" https://odysee.com/@eevblog:7/petition-australian-standards-should-be:e
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08:36 TR Bot; Petition - Australian Standards Should be FREE
08:37 matey; it used to be trivial to open files and close them
08:37 psydruid; but what is the underlying reason for that?
08:37 matey; i mean it didnt require a library
08:37 TR News; old: Using freedom-respecting software https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/why-you-should-use-free-software:a
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08:37 TR Bot; Why You Should Use Free Software
08:37 matey; i would say the underlying reason is that the encodings dont have headers
08:37 TR News; IT Wire is still served from a blocked LAN infamous for colocating malware (Microsoft)
08:37 matey; headers would make it relatively trivial
08:38 matey; of course headers would be obnoxious in their own way
08:38 psydruid; would headers be needed if everything was Unicode?
08:38 matey; everything CANT be unicode
08:38 TR News; Totally insane. Now they scam pensioners, too. https://www.wsj.com/articles/fidelity-to-allow-retirement-savers-to-put-bitcoin-in-401-k-accounts-11650945661
08:38 TR Bot; to Allow Retirement Savers to Put Bitcoin in 401(k) Accounts - WSJ
08:38 psydruid; why not?
08:39 matey; because unicode is a binary representation of TEXT
08:39 matey; and not everything is text
08:39 matey; machine code for eaxmple, cannot be unicode
08:39 TR News; iophk: ignores the elephant in the room - Microsoft; maybe should not be in the daily links https://today.rtl.lu/entertainment/do-s-and-don-ts/a/1903157.html
08:39 matey; compressed data also cannot be unicode
08:39 TR Bot; RTL Today - Do's and Don'ts: Online security
08:39 psydruid; OK, so everything that is text is written in unicode
08:39 matey; but thats just it
08:39 matey; your idea works fine, if the only files we ever want to open are text files
08:40 matey; but just determining if unicode is a text file is just as annoying
08:40 matey; so really nothing gets solved this way
08:40 matey; by the time you know if its a text file, youve already been through the most annoying part
08:40 matey; and its the most annoying part that we are hoping to avoid
08:41 matey; unicode blurs the lines between plaintext and binary
08:41 matey; and it doesnt have headers
08:41 TR News; Variety.com Has Its Biggest Traffic Month in History - Variety https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/variety-traffic-record-1235238403/ Source: variety
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08:41 TR Bot; Has Its Biggest Traffic Month in History - Variety
08:41 matey; and that makes it a bitch
08:41 matey; let me put it this way
08:41 matey; ive written programs designed to work on a LOT of different data
08:42 matey; and when i switched from python 2 to python 3
08:42 matey; i spent hours and hours making it work with the unicode-centricity of python 3
08:42 matey; then i spent six months testing the python 3 version
08:42 matey; it worked pretty reliably for that long
08:42 matey; then one day, i spent about 30 minutes trying to figure out why something just wasnt working
08:43 matey; and i recompiled the program into python 2 instead of 3 and it worked
08:43 matey; and i said fuck python 3 forever
08:43 matey; its wonky as fuck
08:43 matey; and unicode is the reason
08:43 matey; python 2 is also wonky, but its more graceful about this
08:43 matey; you cant win with unicode
08:44 matey; you can only lose less (sometimes)
08:44 psydruid; because Unicode itself is broken?
08:44 psydruid; could it be fixed?
08:44 matey; well thats just it
08:44 matey; if you fixed unicode
08:44 matey; 1. it wouldnt be unicode
08:45 matey; 2. all the old unicode would remain broken
08:45 TR News; Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/nso-is-everywhere-and-still-lying-about-what-it-can-and-cant-do-to-control-misuse-of-its-exploits/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:45 TR Bot; Is Everywhere And Still Lying About What It Can And Cant Do To Control Misuse Of Its Exploits | Techdirt
08:45 matey; im not saying we should get rid of it of course
08:45 matey; im saying that it should be fucking optional
08:45 matey; and that python 3 is one of the worst things ever created
08:47 TR News; Thugs helped by copyright law https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/santa-ana-ca-council-looking-to-ban-city-cops-from-playing-copyrighted-music-while-being-recorded/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:47 TR Bot; Ana (CA) Council Looking To Ban City Cops From Playing Copyrighted Music While Being Recorded | Techdirt
08:47 matey; this guy says strings themselves are broken https://mortoray.com/2013/11/27/the-string-type-is-broken/
08:47 TR Bot; string type is broken Musing Mortoray
08:48 TR News; Twitter is dead to many people https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/twitters-legal-team-has-been-an-aggressive-defender-of-free-speech-will-that-continue-under-musk/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:48 TR Bot; Legal Team Has Been An Aggressive Defender Of Free Speech; Will That Continue Under Musk? | Techdirt
08:48 matey; however, they seem to be only broken where this is unicode, so this is a bit like missing the obvious
08:48 matey; "Id rather have an array of characters than a broken string class."
08:48 matey; problem is that files dont store arrays
08:49 matey; they store a string of characters that can be used in a FORMAT that amounts to an array, but thats still a string.
08:49 matey; since a "character" doesnt map to a byte (with unicode that is)
08:49 TR News; Twitter is for crooks though. Now it'll be run by one. https://truthout.org/articles/democrats-and-republicans-agree-trumps-potential-return-to-twitter-is-no-good/ | Source: TruthOut
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08:49 TR Bot; Some GOP Insiders Are Expressing Fear Over Trump's Possible Return to Twitter
08:50 matey; it can be two bytes, or a mix of single-byte or two-byte characters
08:50 matey; this "array of characters" business can neither be saved nor loaded to a file without the very same problem of NOT BEING AN ARRAY
08:50 matey; so internally, tada, problem solved
08:51 matey; until you want to save or load a file, then its fucked again
08:51 TR News; Anti-SLAPP https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/some-good-news-kentucky-passes-a-good-anti-slapp-law/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:51 TR Bot; Good News: Kentucky Passes A Good Anti-SLAPP Law | Techdirt
08:52 matey; "The simplest approach would be to wrap a code point string with a grapheme cluster iterator and then build upon that to provide more complex functionality like regular expression matching and other iterators."
08:52 matey; /me throws the whole fucking machine in a goddamned volcano
08:52 TR News; [Cr]ackers would have gained nothing if it was Free software. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/hackers-gained-access-to-t-mobile-vpns-customer-service-and-source-code/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:52 TR Bot; Gained Access To T-Mobile VPNs, Customer Service, And Source Code | Techdirt
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08:54 TR News; "Its an auspicious moment for retrocomputing fans, as its now four decades since the launch of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/26/the-sinclair-zx-spectrum-turns-40/ | Source: Hackaday
08:54 TR Bot; Sinclair ZX Spectrum Turns 40 | Hackaday
08:55 psydruid; aren't there utf-16 and utf-32?
08:55 matey; and 8
08:55 matey; and thats only part of the mess a
08:55 matey; and you cant pick one because theyre platform dependent
08:55 matey; and some languages standardise one or the other
08:55 matey; js uses utf-16
08:56 TR News; Techdirt says "utilizing established IP" [sic] but should know better! https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/paradox-fully-embraces-fan-games-with-developer-affiliate-program/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:56 TR Bot; Fully Embraces Fan-Games With Developer Affiliate Program | Techdirt
08:57 matey; you could just use 7-bit ascii and be happy, except that every binary file from 70s microcomputers to 2020 microcomputers uses octets for file storage
08:57 matey; now how do you know if your octets are ascii, binary or something else
08:57 matey; answer: to load plaintext you need an entire operating system to know:
08:57 matey; 1. IF it is plaintext
08:57 matey; 2. what KIND of plaintext
08:58 matey; then you need a whole bunch of other shit
08:58 matey; its just broken
08:58 matey; they broke plaintext.
08:59 matey; but thats fine! as long as they dont make us use broken for everything.
08:59 matey; then they made us use broken for everything.
08:59 TR News; "It really feels like we shouldnt have to have discussions about how companies should handle information that leaks onto the internet in 2022." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/25/ea-streisands-leaked-skate-4-footage-into-the-news/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:59 TR Bot; Streisands Leaked Skate 4 Footage Into The News | Techdirt
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 58.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 302.00
08:59 matey; thats the crime. they should absolutely kill themselves.
08:59 psydruid; the question is what plaintext is
08:59 TR News; "The idea that there is a link between the exclusivity period on patents and higher drug prices is about as noncontroversial as a view can be." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/26/yes-of-course-drug-patents-drive-up-drug-prices-why-is-this-even-up-for-debate/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:59 TR Bot; Of Course Drug Patents Drive Up Drug Prices; Why Is This Even Up For Debate? | Techdirt
08:59 matey; ah, so glad you asked
08:59 matey; plaintext is whatever the fuck you want it to be
08:59 matey; its a completely meanless term
08:59 matey; everything is binary
08:59 matey; nothing can be displayed
09:00 matey; everything is encoded
09:00 TR News; SweatshopZone and Coffee-sipping Cult https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-calls-on-biden-to-invite-starbucks-amazon-union-workers-to-white-house/ | Source: TruthOut
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09:00 TR Bot; Sanders Calls on Biden to Invite Starbucks, Amazon Union Workers to White House
09:00 matey; nothing can be read
09:00 matey; hooray
09:00 matey; but plaintext USED TO BE the one thing that was absolutely trivial to deal with
09:00 matey; you didnt need a fucking library to handle it
09:00 matey; because it was RIGHT THERE in front of you
09:01 TR News; "Rights groups and concerned citizens the world over have urged Patel to halt the extradition, on the grounds that Washingtons case against Assange" https://thedissenter.org/very-british-form-of-press-censorship/ | Source: The Dissenter
09:01 TR Bot; The D-Notice: A Very British Way Of Censoring The Press
09:01 matey; like a child could literally convert from 0s and 1s to "text" and back
09:01 matey; they did the same thing to plaintext that they did to html
09:01 matey; they made it impossible to implement
09:02 matey; no one writes an html rendering engine anymore
09:02 matey; too fucking complicated
09:03 matey; if i had grown up with iscii i dont think id love unicode at all
09:03 matey; granted you need an iscii rom to use iscii on a dos machine
09:03 activelow; besides all this, i was blessed with a mountain of telco protocols, yet another story to be told
09:03 TR News; "Tor Browser 11.5a9 updates Firefox on Windows, macOS, and GNU/Linux to 91.8.0esr" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-115a9/ | Source: Tor
09:03 TR Bot; New Alpha Release: Tor Browser 11.5a9 (Windows/macOS/Linux) | The Tor Project
09:03 activelow; it is far worse than bad
09:04 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/irc-log-260422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/irc-log-260422/
09:04 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 26, 2022 | Techrights
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09:05 TR News; "we are doing PGP encryption as part of core. Some users point out we don't have as many features as Enigmail, which is correct. We could use community help to catch us up to those users' expectations." https://mastodon.social/@ryanleesipes/108188898971113056
09:05 TR Bot; Ryan Sipes: "Friends of the #fediverse. Lots of changes coming" - Mastodon
09:05 activelow; it is ok to "innovate", it is not to destroy and sabotage technology with a proven track record for 50 years
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09:05 activelow; and i see a regression, of more than 50 years already
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09:05 activelow; given the fact, telco is slightly older than internet era
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09:07 TR News; Abusive Bully on Twitter https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/26/twitter_elon_musk_free_speech | Source: Democracy Now
09:07 TR Bot; Elon Musk, the Worlds Richest Man, Has Been an Abusive Bully on Twitter for Years. Now He Owns It | Democracy Now!
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09:08 matey; at any rate, even though activelow is comical or bizarre with some reasons or details or conclusions
09:08 matey; less with others...
09:08 matey; the idea that technology is being made unsustainable hes not wrong about
09:09 matey; they dont simply reinvent the wheel
09:09 matey; every time they do, it has an order of magnitude more complexity
09:09 matey; they might as well design it to fail
09:09 matey; now heres the funny thing we are supposed to believe
09:09 *psydruid continues his search for the holy grail of operating systems and finds Michaelsoft Binbows
09:10 TR News; "The Court of Justice of the European Union has dismissed Poland's request to annul Article 17 of the Copyright Directive." https://torrentfreak.com/upload-filters-dont-violate-freedom-of-expression-eu-top-court-rules-220426/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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09:10 matey; they refuse to make a lightbulb that says what it does
09:10 TR Bot; Filters Dont Violate Freedom of Expression, EU Top Court Rules * TorrentFreak
09:10 matey; i spend more money getting lightbulbs that say theyll last for a decade
09:10 TR News; "Zone-Telechargement and Tirexo, two of the most popular [unauthorised sharing] sites in French-speaking regions, have announced they will shut down." https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-giants-zone-telechargement-tirexo-mysteriously-shut-down-220426/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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09:10 matey; im happy with them when i get them home
09:10 TR Bot; Giants Zone-Telechargement & Tirexo Mysteriously Shut Down * TorrentFreak
09:10 matey; within a year or two they flicker to the point of uselessness or just stop turning on
09:10 matey; they dont burn out, they dont get hot enough for that
09:10 matey; they just dont work
09:11 matey; industry refuses to make a lightbulb that lasts-- everybody knows that
09:11 matey; sure, if you pay ten times as much, SOMETIMES youll get a bulb that lasts 10x as long
09:12 matey; thats not really a savings-- the ones that cost 1/10 of that and work for 1/10 as long were already rigged
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09:12 matey; so its just a package deal with the same level of ripoff
09:12 matey; and more complexity
09:12 matey; we know this happens with lightbulbs
09:12 matey; someday people will figure out they do the same thing with software
09:13 TR News; "Chemical-based photography can seem like a dark art at times, but it neednt be so." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/26/simple-photo-enlarger-makes-great-addition-to-any-darkroom/ | Source: Hackaday
09:13 TR Bot; Photo Enlarger Makes Great Addition To Any Darkroom | Hackaday
09:13 matey; for the same reason-- to create dependence on companies
09:13 matey; if they didnt do that, we woudlnt need them
09:13 matey; and they would hate that
09:13 matey; but thats crazy talk
09:13 matey; true with lightbulbs
09:13 matey; not true with code
09:14 matey; /me looks at mozilla
09:14 matey; dont be silly
09:14 matey; they would never do that to code
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09:14 matey; even if they could
09:14 TR News; "[Mark Rober] has a bird feeder in his back yard" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/26/fort-knutz-squirrels-go-all-mission-impossible/ | Source: Hackaday
09:14 TR Bot; Knutz Squirrels Go All Mission Impossible | Hackaday
09:14 TR News; "If Twitter does not comply with our law, there are sanctions." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/26/elon-there-are-rules-eu-says-twitter-must-comply-new-digital-services-act | Source: Common Dreams
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09:14 TR Bot; 'Elon, There Are Rules': EU Says Twitter Must Comply With New Digital Services Act
09:14 matey; theres no reason software developers would behave like people who design and sell lightbulbs
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09:15 matey; even if it creates dependency
09:15 matey; i mean dependency is a concept that doesnt even exist in the software world
09:15 TR News; "The developing world is at the brink of a perfect storm of debt, food, and energy crises." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/26/poor-nations-face-perfect-storm-debt-food-and-energy-crises-un | Source: Common Dreams
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09:15 TR Bot; Poor Nations Face 'Perfect Storm' of Debt, Food, and Energy Crises: UN
09:15 matey; whoever heard of a software dependency
09:15 matey; not me
09:16 TR News; "musical artist, but seems lately to have taken a bit of shine to retro telecoms gear" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/26/a-baudot-code-speaking-chatterbot-with-a-freakish-twist/ | Source: Hackaday
09:16 TR Bot; Baudot Code Speaking Chatterbot With A Freakish Twist | Hackaday
09:16 matey; create a lightbulb that works for 50 years, someone will design one that lasts only 10, and not reliably so
09:17 matey; create a program that works for 20 years, and someone will design one that not only needs updates (for good reason)
09:17 matey; but it has to be completely redesigned, broken, incompatible, forcing people to do the bidding of the developers
09:18 matey; slap a free license on it and richard stallman will be 256 years old before he ever notices
09:18 matey; youre free to try to fight it, but the fsf wont give a shit
09:19 matey; sure it makes their mission pointless but
09:19 matey; theyre still doing exactly what they said, even if it isnt working
09:19 matey; oh, well, almost what they said
09:20 matey; theyve also made a number of fatal compromises, on top of their plan not working and complete failure to recognise the problems that make their plan not work
09:21 matey; but other than regression and overall failure and a shift to focusing primarily on fundraising and dropping the "free speech, free software, free society" bit
09:21 matey; other than that, it isnt a complete fraud
09:22 matey; its such a fucking simple thing
09:22 matey; 1. build simple shit that you can rely on
09:22 matey; 2. build any ridiculously complex shit ON TOP of that, not in its place
09:22 matey; 3. THEN, when your silly ridiculous complex bullshit fails... people just use the simple shit underneath
09:23 matey; but they started replacing the simple reliable shit with hopeless shit
09:23 *psydruid doesn't even think of the fsf, gnu and linux these days
09:23 matey; thats good
09:23 matey; hopefully it means youre thinking of something less stupid
09:24 activelow; instead we got, ridiculously complex crapware, which at best, serves some emulation with proprietary software, for a VT with vector graphics
09:25 psydruid; all I'm thinking of right now is Michaelsoft Binbows
09:25 activelow; TI89, DEC VT340, Tektronix, didn't have OpenGL, for plotting, or placing bitmapped fonts onto screen... i mean
09:28 matey; http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/features-harmful/ https://web.archive.org/web/20190925162942/https://s.put.re/p1wAT4gC.png
09:28 TR Bot; Features Considered Harmful (Revised) | Techrights
09:29 activelow; for "AI", Nvidia CUDA it is you want, or OpenCL, "free software" they say...
09:30 matey; "when we have enough associate members"
09:30 matey; "paying us, hackers, paying us..."
09:30 activelow; and as a reminder, if am not mistaken, a Z80 sufficed for a DEC VT with vector graphics...
09:30 matey; "well admit how big the problems are"
09:31 matey; "for a change, hackers, for a change"
09:31 matey; the fsf isnt gratis or libre :P
09:32 matey; osi is gaping though
09:32 matey; the gaping software initiative
09:34 matey; if am not mistaken, a Z80 sufficed for a DEC VT <- that has to be a mistake
09:35 matey; nope, its not
09:36 matey; http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/decmate.html ...but later models also had Z80 or 8088 coprocessors, allowing them to also run CP/M or DOS. The underlying PDP-8 operating system was OS ...
09:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: columbia.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/decmate.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/decmate.html
09:36 TR Bot; DECmate
09:36 matey; actually
09:36 TR News; Links 27/04/2022: Tor Browser 11.5a9; X.Org and Wine Developers Make a Conference | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/xorg-and-wine/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/xorg-and-wine/
09:36 TR Bot; Links 27/04/2022: Tor Browser 11.5a9; X.Org and Wine Developers Make a Conference | Techrights
09:36 matey; its half true
09:37 matey; the vt220 had 2 cpus, including a z80 and an intel chip
09:37 matey; 4 and 4.81 mhz respectively
09:38 matey; thats the rainbow 100 though
09:38 activelow; don't know what the Tektronix 4014 4050 etc. had
09:39 activelow; could be there wasn't any "CPU", and instead TTL chips, similar to the gigatron
09:39 activelow; btw. the gigatron ttl too demonstrated, scientific work is possible with it; hadn't seen a plotter attached to it yet
09:39 TR News; Links 27/04/2022: Tor Browser 11.5a9; X.Org and Wine Developers Make a Conference | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/xorg-and-wine/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/xorg-and-wine/
09:40 TR News; Proprietary Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164190
09:40 TR Bot; Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:40 TR News; Shortwave 3.0 is Here With UI Upgrades, Private Stations, and More Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164191
09:40 TR Bot; Shortwave 3.0 is Here With UI Upgrades, Private Stations, and More Improvements | Tux Machines
09:40 TR News; How I grew my product management career with open source Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164192
09:40 TR Bot; How I grew my product management career with open source | Tux Machines
09:41 TR News; Axzez Interceptor carrier board for RPi CM4 gets 8-port PoE+ board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164193
09:41 TR Bot; Axzez Interceptor carrier board for RPi CM4 gets 8-port PoE+ board | Tux Machines
09:41 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164194
09:41 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
09:41 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Oracle JDeveloper Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164195
09:41 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Oracle JDeveloper | Tux Machines
09:47 TR News; Updating Edge Devices with OSTree and Pulp Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164196
09:47 TR Bot; Updating Edge Devices with OSTree and Pulp | Tux Machines
09:52 TR News; "Browsing through the command line protects me from sensory overload. It makes me less angry, less anxious. It also makes me a better reader." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-04-02-offpunk13.gmi
09:53 TR News; "everyone wants to squeeze money out of everything. does it occur to people that some things should be public services" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
09:53 TR News; "The more experience I have an an engineer, the more I realize how much discussion about software online is just people making up things based on a vibe they feel" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
09:54 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D214.jpg
09:55 TR News; "I'm not a movie reviewer so I'm mostly just gonna be rambling about what I thought about the film. It's my capsule I can do what I want, I'm trying to stop making every post be professional quality when I just feel like casually writing." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2022-04-26.gmi
09:56 TR News; "This is the sixth in a planned series of posts (well, seventh if you count the announcement) where I'll share my experience writing smolver, my Gemini server software, written in Swift." gemini://ainent.xyz/devlog/smolver/2022-04-26-smolver-development-log-part-6.gmi
09:57 TR News; "If you are writing about a new idea, mechanic, or technology, start with it. Talk about what it is before you start contrasting it with what it isnt. Start by explaining the new thing and why the new thing is so good." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/reverse-your-articles
09:58 TR News; Moving Linux From One Laptop to Another gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~tfurrows/phlog/2022-04-26_linuxMoved.txt
09:59 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164197
09:59 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:03 TR News; "digital transformations" is just meaningless buzzword salad for people who typically do harm in the name of "modernising" https://www.cio.com/article/308436/7-secrets-of-successful-digital-transformations.html
10:03 TR Bot; secrets of successful digital transformations | CIO
10:05 TR News; Fancy names for themes or CSS. This is so laughable. Rewrapping old crap as "dark mode" https://opensource.com/article/22/4/light-dark-mode-jekyll
10:05 TR Bot; practical guide to light and dark mode in Jekyll | Opensource.com
10:07 TR News; Yes, let's throw in 1MB download and 200MB of RAM for some useless JS framework... so that we can have "dark mode" and a little bounding ball that says "please wait..."
10:08 TR News; This is a Microsoft (Mono) infection vector https://terminalroot.com/how-to-install-unity-engine-on-ubuntu-via-appimage/
10:08 TR Bot; How to Install Unity Engine on Ubuntu 22.04 via AppImage
10:09 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164198
10:09 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:10 TR News; curl 7.83.0 headers bonanza https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/27/curl-7-83-0-headers-bonanza/ needs to delete Microsoft GitHub. Don't support crime.
10:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/27/curl-7-83-0-headers-bonanza/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/27/curl-7-83-0-headers-bonanza/
10:10 TR Bot; 7.83.0 headers bonanza | daniel.haxx.se
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10:19 TR News; This realistic control panel takes the flight simulator experience to new heights | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
10:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/26/this-realistic-control-panel-takes-the-flight-simulator-experience-to-new-heights/
10:19 TR Bot; This realistic control panel takes the flight simulator experience to new heights | Arduino Blog
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10:23 TR News; As important as water is to life: How internet blackouts stifled Kashmirs digital economy -Rest of World https://restofworld.org/2022/blackouts-kashmir-digital-economy/ Source: restofworld
10:23 TR Bot; As important as water is to life: How internet blackouts stifled Kashmirs digital economy - Rest of World
10:24 TR News; New EasyOS and Other Development News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164199
10:24 TR Bot; New EasyOS and Other Development News | Tux Machines
10:26 TR News; Microsoft concern-trolling Linux while putting NSA back doors in Windows https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
10:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/microsoft-discovers-new-privilege.html
10:26 TR Bot; Microsoft Discovers New Privilege Escalation Flaws in Linux Operating System
10:26 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
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10:28 TR News; As if local privilege escalation is anywhere as severe as remotely-reachable back doors in Windows https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/microsoft-finds-linux-desktop-flaw-that-gives-root-to-untrusted-users/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
10:28 TR Bot; Microsoft finds Linux desktop flaw that gives root to untrusted users | Ars Technica
10:29 TR News; Microsoft is "concerned" about Linux security like wolves are concerned about the safety of sheep.
10:30 TR News; ICBM hypocrisy: "Many companies these days are keen to infuse their products and platforms with artificial intelligence" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/diversity-drives-innovation
10:30 TR Bot; 4 reasons diverse engineering teams drive innovation | The Enterprisers Project
10:31 TR News; Proprietary junk. Probably does more harm than good. Shilled by spamnil and other snakeoil spammers. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/04/26/2429026/0/en/New-SIOS-LifeKeeper-for-Linux-Version-9-6-1-Adds-Support-for-the-Latest-Versions-of-Key-Operating-Systems-Databases-and-Cloud-Features.html
10:31 TR Bot; New SIOS LifeKeeper for Linux Version 9.6.1 Adds Support
10:31 TR News; "I'm going to start this blog by writing a very simple guide on installing Perl using perlbrew." http://blogs.perl.org/users/ali/2022/04/installing-perl-with-perlbrew.html
10:31 TR Bot; Perl with perlbrew | Ali [blogs.perl.org]
10:32 TR News; This was patched a very long time ago; meanwhile, there are dozen of zero-day flaws in Windows that are remotely exploitable, not local privilege escalation https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/
10:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thestack.technology | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://thestack.technology/dirty-pipe-exploited-linux-vulnerability-cve-2022-0847/
10:32 TR Bot; "Dirty Pipe" Linux vulnerability is now being exploited in the wild
10:34 TR News; While CISA admits Microsoft is full of holes that are actively exploited Microsoft and its faithful media operative try to shift attention to "Linux" https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/
10:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-nimbuspwn-linux-vulnerability-gives-hackers-root-privileges/
10:34 TR Bot; New Nimbuspwn Linux vulnerability gives hackers root privileges
10:36 TR News; GNU/Linux that pays an evil company with monopolies on the hardware and malicious features [sic] https://macdailynews.com/2022/04/26/asahi-linux-on-an-apple-m1-mac-mini-is-unbelievably-fast/
10:36 TR Bot; Linux on an Apple M1 Mac mini is 'unbelievably fast' - MacDailyNews
10:38 schestowitz; Janice Tryam (@JaniceTryam): "Pokud se starte o to, aby spolenosti jako Google a FB nevidli vechny vae data, tak k nim nepstupujte z MS Windows! If you care about your data and are scared, that Google and FB will see too much, then do not access them from MS Windows! http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA" | nitter https://nitter.eu/JaniceTryam/status/1518573705298952193 Source:
10:38 TR Bot; Janice Tryam (@JaniceTryam): "Pokud se starte o to, aby spolenosti jako Google a FB nevidli vechny vae data, tak k nim nepstupujte z MS Windows! If you care about your data and are scared, that Google and FB will see too much, then do not access them from MS Windows! http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA" | nitter
10:38 schestowitz; nitter
10:39 schestowitz; NIA KOO (@niakoo): "The Death of Gary Kildall Remains a Mystery to This Date http://techrights.org/2020/01/05/history-canceled/" | nitter https://nitter.eu/niakoo/status/1518358286797574145 Source: nitter
10:39 TR Bot; NIA KOO (@niakoo): "The Death of Gary Kildall Remains a Mystery to This Date http://techrights.org/2020/01/05/history-canceled/" | nitter
10:54 TR News; When it comes to tech, Microsoft is unique in that it commits an EXTRAORDINARY amount of crime and relies on crime. It's not the only one committing crime, but Microsoft took that to the extreme. There are no "Microsoft haters"; those are just rational people who know the facts.
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10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 331.20
10:59 TR News; Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164200
10:59 TR Bot; Security Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt/Fear-mongering/Dramatisation | Tux Machines
11:04 TR News; The browser that made the WWW proprietary (like MSIE did before it) https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2022/04/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_26.html
11:04 TR Bot; Chrome Releases: Stable Channel Update for Desktop
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11:05 TR News; Firefox Nightly: These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 114 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/26/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-114/
11:05 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/26/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-114/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2022/04/26/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-114/
11:05 TR Bot; These Weeks In Firefox: Issue 114 Firefox Nightly News
11:06 TR News; ICBM pushing clown computing (read: surveillance) of OTHER companies https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/27/create-privatelink-red-hat-openshift-cluster-aws-sts also shipping Fedora to them... http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/aws-fedoraproject/
11:06 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: redhat.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/27/create-privatelink-red-hat-openshift-cluster-aws-sts https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/27/create-privatelink-red-hat-openshift-cluster-aws-sts
11:06 TR Bot; Create a PrivateLink Red Hat OpenShift cluster on AWS with STS | Red Hat Developer
11:06 TR Bot; It Looks Like Red Hats (IBM) Fedora Project May be Outsourced to Amazons Datacentres | Techrights
11:07 TR News; Microsoft gives the NSA et al direct access to PCs, so no "security" measures from Microsoft should be taken seriously https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/04/27/pin-for-login/
11:07 TR Bot; PIN for Login etbe - Russell Coker
11:08 TR News; "Back in April 2021 I introduced a simple text-based adventure game, The Lighthouse of Doom, which I'd written in Z80 assembly language for CP/M systems." https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html
11:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: steve.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.steve.fi/porting_a_game_from_cp_m_to_the_zx_spectrum_48k.html
11:08 TR Bot; Porting a game from CP/M to the ZX Spectrum 48k
11:09 TR News; "MontaVista Software, LLC, a leader in commercial Embedded Linux products and services, today announced MVEdge, a full-platform solution for the Intelligent Edge, specifically aimed at gateway-style devices." https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/569656367/montavista-launches-mvedge-a-commercially-supported-end-to-end-solution-for-the-intelligent-edge
11:09 TR Bot; MontaVista Launches MVEdge, a Commercially Supported End-to-End Solution for the Intelligent Edge - EIN Presswire
11:10 TR News; EU Ecodesign: 38 organisations demand the right to access and to reuse hardware https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220427-01.en.html
11:10 TR Bot; EU Ecodesign: 38 organisations demand the right to access and to reuse hardware - FSFE
11:10 TR News; "You probably have already heard about WebAssembly, but there are high chances that happened in the context of Web application development. Theres however a new emerging trend that consists of using WebAssembly outside of the browser." http://flavio.castelli.me/2022/04/26/write-kubectl-plugins-using-webassembly-and-wasi/
11:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: castelli.me | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://flavio.castelli.me/2022/04/26/write-kubectl-plugins-using-webassembly-and-wasi/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://flavio.castelli.me/2022/04/26/write-kubectl-plugins-using-webassembly-and-wasi/
11:10 TR Bot; Write kubectl plugins using WebAssembly and WASI
11:10 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/04/26/1092867458/vaccine-derived-polio-is-on-the-rise-a-new-vaccine-aims-to-stop-the-spread
11:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/04/26/1092867458/vaccine-derived-polio-is-on-the-rise-a-new-vaccine-aims-to-stop-the-spread https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/04/26/1092867458/vaccine-derived-polio-is-on-the-rise-a-new-vaccine-aims-to-stop-the-spread
11:10 TR Bot; Vaccine-derived polio is on the upswing. Can a new vaccine stop the spread? : Goats and Soda : NPR
11:11 DaemonFC; "In early 2020, for example, there was a 4-month pause in polio vaccination efforts in more than 30 countries, according to Ananda Bandyopadhyay, deputy director for polio at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. (Editor's note: The Gates Foundation is a funder of NPR and this blog)."
11:14 TR News; NPR is just BILL-PR. NPR is dead. It's ads. "(Editor's note: The Gates Foundation is a funder of NPR and this blog)." https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/04/26/1092867458/vaccine-derived-polio-is-on-the-rise-a-new-vaccine-aims-to-stop-the-spread webspam/spam/shilling for a monster who enabled Jeffrey Epstein and commited crimes at Microsoft
11:14 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/04/26/1092867458/vaccine-derived-polio-is-on-the-rise-a-new-vaccine-aims-to-stop-the-spread https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/04/26/1092867458/vaccine-derived-polio-is-on-the-rise-a-new-vaccine-aims-to-stop-the-spread
11:15 TR News; Open Letter for the Right to Install any Software on any Device https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/27/open-letter-for-the-right-to-install-any-software-on-any-device/
11:15 TR Bot; Open Letter for the Right to Install any Software on any Device - The Document Foundation Blog
11:16 TR News; Supporting metafile formats: WMF/EMF/EMF+ https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/04/26/supporting-metafile-formats-wmf-emf-emfplus/ documentfoundation / libreoffice
11:16 TR Bot; Supporting metafile formats: WMF/EMF/EMF+ - LibreOffice Development Blog
11:17 TR News; "Going to a physical event feels weird. It feels semi-safe. I know a lot of the people there, I look up to many, I assume everyone is smart, capable and looking out for the good of the world-as-a-whole. Getting together is not-quite-the-safest-thing-to-do." https://euroquis.nl//blabla/2022/04/26/las.html
11:17 TR Bot; Linux Application Summit 2022 | [bobulate]
11:20 TR News; Real-time Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta - Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164201
11:20 TR Bot; Real-time Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta - Now Available | Tux Machines
11:21 TR News; LOL. "just an init system...." https://0pointer.net/blog/testing-my-system-code-in-usr-without-modifying-usr.html
11:21 TR Bot; Testing my System Code in /usr/ Without Modifying /usr/
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11:23 TR News; systemDORA Project. Incubating lots of ICBM vendor lock-in, disseminating that to other GNU/Linux projects. Also forcing you to buy new things: http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
11:23 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
11:24 TR News; Proprietary. "We are happy to announce the release of Qt Creator 7.0.1!" https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-7.0.1-released
11:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-7.0.1-released https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-7.0.1-released
11:24 TR Bot; Qt Creator 7.0.1 released
11:24 TR News; FLASHOUT 3 will bring high-speed combat racing later this year | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/flashout-3-will-bring-high-speed-combat-racing-later-this-year/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
11:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/flashout-3-will-bring-high-speed-combat-racing-later-this-year/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/flashout-3-will-bring-high-speed-combat-racing-later-this-year/
11:24 TR Bot; 3 will bring high-speed combat racing later this year | GamingOnLinux
11:25 TR News; Native GNU/Linux: Claustrowordia, a fun free crossword-type game from Ludum Dare 50 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/claustrowordia-a-fun-free-crossword-type-game-from-ludum-dare-50/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
11:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/claustrowordia-a-fun-free-crossword-type-game-from-ludum-dare-50/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/claustrowordia-a-fun-free-crossword-type-game-from-ludum-dare-50/
11:25 TR Bot; a fun free crossword-type game from Ludum Dare 50 | GamingOnLinux
11:26 TR News; Pro-outsourcing, pro-surveillance screed from ICBM today. "YOU DON'T NEED NO STOCKIN' SERVERS. OUTSOURCE TO NSA TODAY!!" https://live-rhes.pantheonsite.io/sysadmin/cloud-service-providers
11:26 TR Bot; 5 things sysadmins should know about cloud service providers | Enable Sysadmin
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11:28 TR News; Lots of sad people this week. Outsourced and entrusted all their online activities/presence to Twitter. Now realising they are unpaid slaves of Mr. Emerald Mine from Apartheid South Africa. Muskin' Tape.
11:29 TR News; Twitter isn't a platform for communications, interactions, and information. It's for running or conducting interferences, for manipulating whole population from up above (top-bottom). Facebook, fore instance, sold Brexit.
11:32 TR News; Exploring StackRox https://retout.co.uk/2022/04/26/exploring-stackrox/ Source: retout
11:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: retout.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://retout.co.uk/2022/04/26/exploring-stackrox/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://retout.co.uk/2022/04/26/exploring-stackrox/
11:32 TR Bot; Exploring StackRox
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11:33 TR News; Making it a lot harder to fork https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-14.0.2-Released LLVM doesn't care about freedom. It already outrsourced itself to Microsoft (criminals) proprietary software... and has no plans to change this.
11:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-14.0.2-Released https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-14.0.2-Released
11:33 TR Bot; 14.0.2 Released With The Compiler Moving To Bi-Weekly Releases - Phoronix
11:33 TR News; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164202
11:33 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
11:34 TR News; Games: The Lighthouse of Doom, FLASHOUT 3, and Claustrowordia Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164203
11:34 TR Bot; Games: The Lighthouse of Doom, FLASHOUT 3, and Claustrowordia | Tux Machines
11:35 TR News; "A good example of open source is Linux, which became the largest open-source software project in the world. It is a free, open-source Operating System (OS), released under the GNU General Public Licence (GPL)." She calls GNU "Linux"... https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector
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11:35 TR Bot; source technology in logistics sector | Ubuntu
11:36 activelow; weird, ancient rxvt (non-unicode) had support for --enable-graphics, which was removed from urxvt later ... wonder what this does
11:37 psydruid; Intel, AMD and Qualcomm are also malicious and complicit in maintaining the status quo in the current IT landscape. Fortunately HP, Lenovo and Acer have been losing market share recently in order for this to change.
11:37 TR News; "LilyGO provides Arduino sketches for factory testing..." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/27/10-t-zigbee-board-combines-esp32-c3-and-tlsr8258-for-zigbee-3-0-wifi-and-ble-connectivity/ delete GitHub and use Free software hosting, don't support crime (Microsoft)
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11:37 TR Bot; $10 T-Zigbee board combines ESP32-C3 and TLSR8258 for Zigbee 3.0, WIFi and BLE connectivity - CNX Software
11:38 schestowitz; psydruid: last night we spoke about how the (former) "Linux Gamer" sold to valve
11:38 schestowitz; and bragged about a new home
11:38 schestowitz; where the timing was a tad suspicious
11:39 schestowitz; just before rebranding and doing nonstop Steam Dreck PR
11:39 schestowitz; this is similar to Microbell not resisting the temptation to show off gifts
11:39 schestowitz; not just bottles of beer and wine
11:40 schestowitz; a whole proper crate of high-priced "wares"
11:40 schestowitz; AMD has long done things like that
11:40 schestowitz; flying bloggers around for PR
11:40 schestowitz; but I didn't know they'd stopp this low
11:40 schestowitz; *stop
11:40 schestowitz; *stoop
11:41 TR News; "An additional advantage of open source is it prevents being tied to a single proprietary software [vendor]." https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-technology-logistics-sector
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11:43 TR News; Fedora dev team starts to simplify Linux graphics handling Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164204
11:43 TR Bot; Fedora dev team starts to simplify Linux graphics handling | Tux Machines
11:46 psydruid; I stopped buying AMD hardware in 2009. Even though Linux "users" adore them for their "free" graphics drivers, I believe supporting the company by buying its products does more to help Microsoft than buying Intel, Apple or preferably other non-x86 hardware.
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11:50 activelow; ^ raspberry pi if you're not concerned about their VideoCore firmware; that's the most mainstream and affordable option currently
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13:17 *psydruid is waiting for other boards and staying far away from Raspberry Pi hardware
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13:20 activelow; again, both certificate fingerprint and pubkey fingerprint mismatched a moment ago
13:21 SomeH4x0r; fuck Let's Encrypt
13:22 SomeH4x0r; and the evil CA system
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14:24 activelow; maintaining _old_ GNU software with their autotools/configure is horrible, noticed with rxvt terminal emulator version from year 2003
14:34 activelow; anyway ... rxvt-2.7.10 together with it's graphics support is back :)
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15:09 TR News; You would think they hate GNU/Linux... how times are changing https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/classic-bethesda-titles-come-to-steam-play-them-easily-on-linux/
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15:09 TR Bot; Bethesda titles come to Steam, play them easily on Linux | GamingOnLinux
15:10 SomeH4x0r; classic as in what?
15:10 SomeH4x0r; the ones they made freeware?
15:11 SomeH4x0r; oh, free there too
15:12 SomeH4x0r; did they give Bethesda Launcher players Steam keys for the other games at least?
15:13 SomeH4x0r; > Starting on April 27 youll be able to migrate your games and Wallet to your Steam account. nvm
15:14 SomeH4x0r; fuck both Steam and their launcher though
15:14 schestowitz; stay classic, sir ;-)
15:15 SomeH4x0r; retail only, and only if DRM-free
15:17 SomeH4x0r; though if I got retail I'd better make a backup to other medium anyway, and use it
15:18 SomeH4x0r; retail is just for a box on a shelf
15:24 SomeH4x0r; > Starting on May 11, you will no longer be able to play and access your games within the Bethesda.net Launcher. | fuck DRM
15:28 psydruid; cheers for Bethesda^WMicrosoft
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15:28 psydruid; they really love Valve, Linux, DRM and Steam
15:28 SomeH4x0r; Bethesda bought by M$ someday as well?
15:30 psydruid; already bought
15:30 psydruid; from what I can remember
15:30 SomeH4x0r; is stuff like OpenMW safe?
15:31 psydruid; I don't know
15:31 psydruid; if it's on Github, it's probably not safe
15:31 psydruid; as they can shut it down any time
15:31 SomeH4x0r; yes, evil
15:32 psydruid; apparently it's on Gitlab
15:32 psydruid; so it's better to mirror it before it disappears
15:32 psydruid; https://gitlab.com/OpenMW/openmw
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15:32 TR Bot; / openmw GitLab
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15:37 SomeH4x0r; hi
15:37 SomeH4x0r; bnchs:
15:37 SomeH4x0r; 17:35 < kolya> https://i.imgur.com/xTZ37OC.png
15:37 SomeH4x0r; 17:35 < kolya> https://github.com/IntroversionSoftware
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15:37 TR Bot; GitHub
15:40 bnchs; hmmm made by a guy named tycho
15:40 bnchs; who also works at... VALVE
15:41 SomeH4x0r; also, UplinkIRC-related, https://web.archive.org/web/20090913002159/http://www.multiwinia-ladder.net/flamebot.php
15:41 TR Bot; Flamebot
15:41 SomeH4x0r; they had this bot until somewhere in 2016
15:43 bnchs; oh
15:45 SomeH4x0r; maybe kolya implements its stuff in ag3nt_b0t in the future
15:52 SomeH4x0r; will you be back on UplinkIRC btw?
15:57 activelow; what would you need steam deck for? there is other games available without it.
15:58 activelow; which are, opensource at least
16:01 bnchs; activelow, games properly optimized for it
16:01 bnchs; rather than optimized for a generic x86_64 cpu
16:02 bnchs; but either way, it's a boring game console
16:02 bnchs; gabe got tons of bribe money to give to gulagtubers
16:08 activelow; i don't know, steam deck isn't necessary to "optimize", whatever this should be; it is DRM only to run proprietary malicious software
16:09 bnchs; true
16:10 bnchs; gabe bribed gardiner into being a valve shill
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16:10 bnchs; now he makes more videos about the steam deck than the actual topic (GNU/Linux)
16:11 activelow; just saying, libsdl1/fbcon are still there; and it works, even with _all_ opengl removed and _all_ c++ dependencies remvoed
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16:14 redcat; fbcon is going to be "deprecated"
16:16 redcat; redhat is cutting that old unmatained code out
16:16 SomeH4x0r; hi
16:16 redcat; tf u want?
16:17 SomeH4x0r; idk
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16:18 activelow; redcat: excatly what is deprecated about it?
16:19 redcat; ask fedora
16:20 activelow; deprecated framebuffer console? that's nonsense
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16:20 activelow; however it is true, particular libraries and games did disappear, allthough libsdl1/fbcon was fast and stable with those, without proprietary opengl
16:20 bnchs; consoles are deprecated
16:20 bnchs; they're ancient tech
16:20 redcat; fedora are serial killers of "old" software
16:21 activelow; prboom-plus is one example for this; which admittedly is old, and i had to search for an even older version since the latest ones are flawed
16:22 redcat; fbcon is fro0m 1999
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16:22 redcat; fedora can have any of that non-sence
16:22 redcat; cat*
16:22 redcat; cant*
16:23 SomeH4x0r; what happened to prboom-plus?
16:23 TR News; From Belarus With Love Part V: From Start-Up to Success Story... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/belarus-success-story/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/belarus-success-story/
16:23 redcat; they only work with modern stuff like drm
16:23 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part V: From Start-Up to Success Story | Techrights
16:24 activelow; SomeH4x0r: latest versions didn't support libsdl1/fbcon as it should be; an older version is fast and stable
16:24 MinceR; what's wrong with libsdl2?
16:25 activelow; MinceR: libsdl2 cannot use fbcon directly to my knowledge, and requires DirectFB (which isn't maintained, except for my patchset, and is written in c++, hence removed)
16:25 MinceR; ic
16:25 activelow; libsdl2 itself too is c++; libsdl1 had none of those issues
16:26 redcat; well fedora is going to surgically remove all of that cancer
16:26 bnchs; intel compiler
16:27 redcat; its EUFI or bust
16:28 redcat; EUFI cause the bios didnt have enought room to install modern trojans on it
16:28 activelow; well, the stable libraries disappeared already, no need to worry; steam deck seems mostly all that's left for fedora users... good luck with that
16:29 activelow; BaphometOS will ship with fast and stable libsdl1/fbcon
16:29 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164205
16:29 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
16:29 redcat; BaphometOS LOL
16:30 activelow; eureka editor must be installed manually from source, which isn't a problem, and i am not willing to take responsibility for anything written in c++, including FLTK which eureka editor needs
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16:30 activelow; redcat: it is the last remaining modern system, which removed all c++ dependencies, among many other features
16:31 redcat; so you also good with scalpels
16:32 activelow; the things i did, required a machete
16:32 redcat; theres no BaphometOS
16:33 activelow; sure there is, currently tailored for some Rockchip ARM SBC, although i am planning to provide raspberry pi images
16:33 psydruid; let's work on GuillotineOS
16:33 redcat; or maybe there is but you are the onlyone using it
16:33 activelow; and i am the only one maintaining this, yes
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17:12 TR News; Red Hat Satellite 6.9.9 has been released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164206
17:12 TR Bot; Red Hat Satellite 6.9.9 has been released | Tux Machines
17:12 TR News; GNOME Devs Help User Solve "Barking Laptop" Problem Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164207
17:12 TR Bot; GNOME Devs Help User Solve "Barking Laptop" Problem | Tux Machines
17:17 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/824388.jpg
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17:48 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NRcySkzLRQ
17:48 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=7NRcySkzLRQ
17:48 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | IHOP and Drive Thrus | Gabriel Iglesias - Invidious
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18:14 TR News; Krita 5.0.6 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164208
18:14 TR Bot; Krita 5.0.6 Released | Tux Machines
18:14 TR News; Yocto Project 4.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164209
18:14 TR Bot; Yocto Project 4.0 released | Tux Machines
18:14 TR News; 10 Reasons to Run Linux in Virtual Machines Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164210
18:14 TR Bot; 10 Reasons to Run Linux in Virtual Machines | Tux Machines
18:14 TR News; You Can Now Upgrade Ubuntu 21.10 to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Heres How Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164211
18:14 TR Bot; You Can Now Upgrade Ubuntu 21.10 to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Heres How | Tux Machines
18:14 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164212
18:14 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:15 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.17.5, 5.15.36, 5.10.113, 5.4.191, 4.19.240, 4.14.277, and 4.9.312 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164213
18:15 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.17.5, 5.15.36, 5.10.113, 5.4.191, 4.19.240, 4.14.277, and 4.9.312 | Tux Machines
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18:21 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/20/people-share-cool-fun-facts-askreddit/
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18:21 TR Bot; People Are Sharing Interesting Fun Facts They Know In This Viral Thread (30 Pics)
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18:53 MinceR; (cat) (audio:music) https://i.imgur.com/J1HMvKN.mp4
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19:02 TR News; History of Software From Minsk (SaM), Belarus by Proxy | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/software-from-minsk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/software-from-minsk/
19:02 TR Bot; History of Software From Minsk (SaM), Belarus by Proxy | Techrights
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19:11 bnchs; "Scenario: we have a php 7 web application using IIS10 via FastCGI. We did performance testing on our application and noticed a slowdown. We ruled out the database tier. We looked at the IIS server and, even under heavy load, when the app slows down dramatically, the resources are not strained... no CPU spikes no RAM spikes. Digging further we came to the conclusion that all the requests coming in are simply being queued. When some of requests take
19:11 bnchs; longer (for some very large reports that take 1-3 minutes) then every other request is being queued up waiting for the first ones to go through."
19:12 bnchs; your web server is slow but fuck you anyway
19:12 bnchs; use ASP.net bitch
19:13 psydruid; toy software for kids
19:13 bnchs; imagine this
19:14 bnchs; your website has to handle tons of request at once
19:14 psydruid; "My First Slow ASP.NET Malware Site"
19:14 bnchs; this is easy to configure in nginx and apache, but in IIS, you're gonna kill yourself
19:16 psydruid; my only experience with a Windows server is taking Windows 2003 SBS Server offline and replacing it with GNU/Linux to act as a file server and adding a newer ESXi virtualisation server for running Windows 2003 and 2008 guests as terminal servers
19:16 psydruid; I've never used anything from their server stack of turds
19:18 bnchs; IIS with PHP (fastcgi) is slow as fuck because of their one-at-a-time request queue
19:18 bnchs; it may work for small websites
19:18 bnchs; but break in larger websites
19:18 bnchs; php-fpm handles this much better
19:19 psydruid; I think it's a good thing IIS works like this, though
19:19 psydruid; it's easy to DoS and take offline
19:19 bnchs; happened with my ministry of education official site
19:20 bnchs; they had to take it offline for the day because of too many people
19:21 psydruid; they got exactly what they were asking for
19:27 bnchs; i'm gonna try hacking nginx to add gemini support
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19:30 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-26-memes-3.jpg
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19:41 TR News; Belarus Versus EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/belarus-versus-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/belarus-versus-epo/
19:41 TR Bot; Belarus Versus EPO | Techrights
19:45 TR News; Gemini already has better UX than the web and mobile gemini://gemini.ucant.org/gemlog/2022-04-27_gemini_better_ux.gmi
19:46 TR News; urgent ink escapade laziness, and a webpage full of 2-4KB JPEGs gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-27.gmi "The referral for it needs to be printed beforehand."
19:47 TR News; "preserve is a combinator that caches the result of a procedure for a given number of seconds." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/preserve
20:02 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-26-memes-6.jpg
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20:12 TR News; Pop!_OS 22.04 now available with updated Ubuntu base and new features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164117#comment-33476
20:12 TR Bot; Pop!_OS 22.04 Launches Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Powered by Linux 5.16 and PipeWire | Tux Machines
20:21 TR News; Censorship, mental torture, and gags. As we shall see soon, in Belarus even surveys among the population became forbidden, just like in Benot Battistellis EPO, which also illegally forbade strikes (without consent from the party protested against, including Antnio Campinos for 3 years). http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/belarus-versus-epo/
20:21 TR News; Essential EPO work has been outsourced to Belarus by Benot Battistelli and now Antnio Campinos, Battistellis friend, has the audacity to claim the EPO has moral high ground (while funneling EPO funds to Belarus) http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/software-from-minsk/
20:21 TR Bot; History of Software From Minsk (SaM), Belarus by Proxy | Techrights
20:21 TR News; The EPOs partner in the east (SaMs German proxy is how Team Battistelli dealt with Belarus) and its roots explained; Antnio Campinos cannot simply pretend that the EPO dissociates from Russia and Belarus http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/belarus-success-story/
20:21 TR Bot; From Belarus With Love Part V: From Start-Up to Success Story | Techrights
20:23 TR News; Getting Started With The Steam Deck Desktop - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/getting-started-with-the-steam-deck-desktop/ Source: boilingsteam
20:23 TR Bot; Getting Started With The Steam Deck Desktop - Boiling Steam
20:23 TR News; "Valve has been validating games at the slowest pace it took them almost two weeks to add another 100 games after the 2200 games milestone on the Steam Deck. There are now more than 2300 games (2329 at the time of writing) working on the Steam Deck in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/2300-games-on-the-steam-deck-with-olliolli-luna-the-shadow-dust-as-steam-deck-verified/
20:23 TR Bot; 2300 Games On The Steam Deck, with OlliOlli, LUNA The Shadow Dust as Steam Deck Verified - Boiling Steam
20:24 TR News; 3 Best Kodi Addons You Should Try https://www.addictivetips.com/media-streaming/kodi/best-kodi-add-ons/
20:24 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/media-streaming/kodi/best-kodi-add-ons/ )
20:26 TR News; Wii U emulator Cemu getting closer to Linux and Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wii-u-emulator-cemu-getting-closer-to-linux-and-steam-deck-support/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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20:26 TR Bot; U emulator Cemu getting closer to Linux and Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux
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20:28 TR News; "Hace algunos dias Richard Stallman habl sobre el estado del movimiento del software libre y en lo cual no ha sido amable con Apple y Canonical en estos comentarios." https://www.linuxadictos.com/richard-stallman-habla-sobre-el-estado-del-movimiento-del-software-libre-y-ataca-a-apple-y-canonical.html
20:28 TR Bot; Richard Stallman habla sobre el estado del movimiento del software libre y ataca a Apple y Canonical | Linux Adictos
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20:30 TR News; Microsoft lose more than 600 "top sites" this past month ago https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html
20:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: netcraft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/04/27/april-2022-web-server-survey.html
20:30 TR Bot; April 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News
20:42 TR News; BarryK sounds like a marketer today https://bkhome.org/news/202204/how-to-clean-your-phone-screen-and-camera-lens.html
20:42 TR Bot; How to clean your phone screen and camera lens
20:43 TR News; I keep hearing about many people who flee Twitter to avoid working for MuskingTape
20:47 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-26-memes-11.jpg
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20:51 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164214
20:51 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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20:53 TR News; Games: Bethesda Launcher, Steam Deck, Block Quake, and Wii U emulator Cemu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164215
20:53 TR Bot; Games: Bethesda Launcher, Steam Deck, Block Quake, and Wii U emulator Cemu | Tux Machines
20:55 TR News; "Since, I am attracted to go back to networks like Mastodon (or ActivityPub like). Community is great, and I like to share with others." gemini://si3t.ch/log/2022-04-27-twtxt2atom.gmi
20:56 TR News; 1881 active capsules known to Lupa. 1900 shortly. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 288.95
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21:12 TR News; Links 27/04/2022: Krita 5.0.6, EasyOS 3.4.7, Yocto Project 4.0, and Red Hat Satellite 6.9.9 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/yocto-project-4-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/yocto-project-4-0/
21:12 TR Bot; Links 27/04/2022: Krita 5.0.6, EasyOS 3.4.7, Yocto Project 4.0, and Red Hat Satellite 6.9.9 | Techrights
21:14 TR News; Programming and Web Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164216
21:14 TR Bot; Programming and Web Development | Tux Machines
21:15 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding and Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164217
21:15 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding and Linux | Tux Machines
21:15 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164218
21:15 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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21:23 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/27/according-to-wikipedia-aaa-has-a-bad-record-of-supporting-measures-that-harm-motorists-and-car-owners/
21:23 TR Bot; According to Wikipedia, AAA has a bad record of supporting measures that harm motorists and car owners. BaronHK's Rants
21:23 TR News; 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164219
21:23 TR Bot; 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry | Tux Machines
21:23 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: according to people WHO EDIT Wikipedia
21:23 schestowitz-TR; could be anuyone
21:24 schestowitz-TR; many people and orgs write their own pages
21:24 schestowitz-TR; about themselves
21:24 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: can you proofread with me?
21:24 DaemonFC; Fixed a typo.
21:26 DaemonFC; "The fact that AAA lobbies against motorist rights and for unconstitutional and corrupt traffic camera schemes and ridiculously low speed limits that nobody pays attention to is like finding out your donations to Planned Parenthood are actually funding Female Genital Mutilation (and as far as I know, THAT isnt happening, but AAA is the car owners version of that)."
21:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, MetroMile fucked me real good on Roadside once.
21:27 DaemonFC; So I was in Fort Wayne, Indiana which is 200 MILES from Chicago.
21:28 DaemonFC; And then my Crown Victoria blows a brake line. I called MetroMile for a tow. I bought the Roadside because mom kept letting our AAA lapse and I didn't want to call and find out it wasn't working.
21:29 DaemonFC; So, I get in my MetroMile app and ask for a tow. Nothing happens. I call them, they say "Well, we sent a tow truck to your location on Wacker Drive.
21:30 DaemonFC; I say "I'm not on Wacker Drive. I'm on State Street in Fort Wayne, Indiana. How can you have something on my phone with GPS access _and_ plugged into my car with GPS access and think I'm in Chicago?".
21:30 DaemonFC; mjg59_'s San Francisco tech bubble economy.
21:31 DaemonFC; But it qualifies as having liability coverage and my bills were averaging $20 a month because they're a questionable insurance outfit running on VC losses like everything in mjg59_-land.
21:31 DaemonFC; :)
21:32 DaemonFC; And if I hit anyone and they sued MetroMile, not really my problem. So their lawyer and MetroMile would get into a shit throwing contest.
21:32 DaemonFC; But now that I have a nice car, I'm using an established insurance company.
21:32 DaemonFC; When you get "full coverage", MetroMile really isn't good on price anymore.
21:32 DaemonFC; And you may end up filing a claim for yourself.... So you may as well take your business to a reputable firm.
21:33 DaemonFC; Instead of going "$20 a month and if I hit anything, not my circus not my monkeys.".
21:33 DaemonFC; I mean, other than being in CLUE, but that'll happen regardless of who you caused the loss to.
21:34 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: can you proofread with me?
21:35 DaemonFC; I ended up having to literally push my Crown Vic into a Midas nearby and tell them "replace the brake lines" while one of their mechanics steered me in.
21:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Yeah, real quick.
21:35 DaemonFC; Gotta go to the post office soon to mail MetroMile their shit back.
21:35 schestowitz; DaemonFC: thanks.
21:35 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
21:35 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
21:35 schestowitz; I ead your blogover rss
21:35 schestowitz; to avoiud clutter
21:36 DaemonFC; Also, yes, nothing Microsoft does benefits anyone else, except for a few odd cases that were usually less than 100 lines anyway.
21:36 DaemonFC; Which someone else probably would have done regardless at some point.
21:37 DaemonFC; They try to minimize the usefulness of their "Linux" work to anyone else, because they don't want to make "Linux" work better except in shackles under their Azure crap.
21:38 schestowitz; I will quote you
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21:41 DaemonFC; Local Privilege Escalations are bugs, yes, but they are of low concern (and do get fixed). Anyone with direct physical access to a computer can elevate their privileges eventually. And on Windows there's a ton of them which sometimes even bypass the TPM and Bitlocker. There was one in the print spooler, for example, last summer. But it happens all the time on Windows and you don't even see it much in "the news".
21:41 DaemonFC; Any user on the machine could become SYSTEM and read your files, even if they were "protected". So that's Windows for you.
21:42 bnchs; in GNU/Linux, you would have to boot to another OS to get root
21:42 DaemonFC; Becoming SYSTEM is an even bigger disaster than becoming ADMINISTRATOR, because in Windows, this means that you're...well, part of the system. You can even patch and hook into things that are "secured" and off limits to ADMINISTRATOR.
21:43 DaemonFC; Stuff that normally requires digital signing no longer requires digital signing.
21:43 DaemonFC; So at this point, rootkit? Sure.
21:43 DaemonFC; And all it takes is someone running as a Guest or as a user with no administrator hat to run a file that knows where the vulnerabilities are.
21:45 DaemonFC; Microsoft was in the news (their news) recently for raising the bug bounty. It's still less than Google's, and way less than what those things are worth to nation state attackers, terrorists, and ransomware outfits.
21:45 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/qRNzBui.mp4
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21:45 DaemonFC; By a factor of $10,000:$1 sometimes.
21:45 MinceR; it's still wasted money from their perspective
21:46 MinceR; that could be better spent on corruption, ads and lawyers
21:46 DaemonFC; Even if you get $40,000 out of Microsoft's bug bounty system somehow, the ransomware gangs can just explout it and make $20 million or more on one hit.
21:46 DaemonFC; So they'll pay better each time and it's simply up to the conscience of whoever found the problem in Windows as to what they want to do with it at that point.
21:47 DaemonFC; So the bug bounties are a ruse, a smoke screen, and the illusion of responsibility. In Linux, people find and fix bugs all the time. The code isn't hidden. That leads, usually, to inevitable discovery, and quick patching.
21:48 DaemonFC; People want to find bugs in Linux and report and fix hundreds of the same type, so they develop tools that can do things like that. Microsoft is annoyed that you reported one.
21:49 DaemonFC; Even over a decade ago before profiling tools were not as robust, not by a long shot, Coverity Scan admitted that "open source software, in general" was less than half as buggy as a comparable proprietary program.
21:50 DaemonFC; The proprietary software is sort of like the worst case situation for your security because they have little incentive to fix it unless there's already malware out there and they just can't hide the bugs any longer.
21:51 schestowitz; added
21:51 DaemonFC; It's like General Motors putting defective ignition switches in millions of cars for a decade after they knew they were shutting off the car unexpectedly and killing people in accidents.
21:51 DaemonFC; GM figured it'll cost $1 a car to fix this problem, then come all of the recalls, and we'll just grind them down with stall tactics and lawyers and stuff if they ever find out, and the settlement will still cost less.
21:52 DaemonFC; So that's what we do.
21:53 DaemonFC; "in old news rerun"
21:54 DaemonFC; an "old news" rerun
21:54 schestowitz-TR; I will add "being"
21:54 schestowitz-TR; to clarify what I meant
21:56 TR News; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
21:56 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
21:58 DaemonFC; It's crazy what corporations get away with, but money talks.
21:58 DaemonFC; People complain that, like, car repair bills are very expensive.
22:00 DaemonFC; They're expensive because of a lot of factors. That mechanic is a skilled laborer. Car prices are horrible, so the skill is in demand, and the demand exceeds the supply. There's overhead to running the shop. The shop has to fix problems with their work, for free, if one arises while it's covered under the parts and labor warranty. If you get out on the road and their job was substandard, they can be sued, so they have to carry liability
22:00 DaemonFC; insurance that covers their legal defense and damages and the more it happens the more the insurance costs.
22:01 DaemonFC; Yes, you can go get a part for $164 at AutoZone. It won't be a good part, but you can get that part. For $250 you get the part that's OEM, and it meets standards and will last a lot longer. But where they "get you" is labor hours, because they're skilled, they have overhead, and they are liable for what the repair does later on after they sell you the service.
22:01 activelow; DaemonFC: local privilege escalations are very dangerous in conjunction with a remote-execution vulnerability of various types
22:01 DaemonFC; So the job might suddenly cost $600-700, because that guy knows how to do something you don't, uses quality parts, and gets to eat the consequences if something bad happens and you get a lawyer.
22:02 activelow; a security concept is, to isolate all processes with networking as non-root account... guess what happens with a local root priv escalation
22:02 DaemonFC; You can repair your own car. You can also perform surgery on yourself in the bathroom mirror.
22:02 DaemonFC; Most people shouldn't.
22:03 DaemonFC; <activelow> a security concept is, to isolate all processes with networking as non-root account... guess what happens with a local root priv escalation
22:03 DaemonFC; I do like the principles of a system like MINIX. One of the big flaws of Linux is everything in kernel space.
22:04 activelow; the recent linux dirtypipe CVE is another one of Torvald's such as dirty CoW was
22:04 DaemonFC; At the time, computers were very slow and so unless you wanted an unacceptable performance loss, you had to do it the way Linux ended up.
22:04 TR News; Today we wish to take stock of a bunch of misleading, sensationalist coverage about Linux; as usual, Microsoft is connected to that, even more directly than one might expect http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
22:04 DaemonFC; But today, computers are very fast, but companies like Intel and AMD have a long list of processor flaws that make everything in kernel space a big security problem.
22:04 TR News; IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 167 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164220
22:04 TR Bot; IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 167 released | Tux Machines
22:05 DaemonFC; So it was a 20 year problem.
22:05 DaemonFC; 20 years later, Tanenbaum was right.
22:05 DaemonFC; But what mattered to Torvalds was getting the stupid operating system to run right on a 386.
22:05 schestowitz; microsoft spam site, pushing trash https://mytechdecisions.com/network-security/microsoft-antimalware-engine-capabilities-linux-macos/
22:05 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: mytechdecisions.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mytechdecisions.com/network-security/microsoft-antimalware-engine-capabilities-linux-macos/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mytechdecisions.com/network-security/microsoft-antimalware-engine-capabilities-linux-macos/
22:05 TR Bot; Microsoft Unveils New Antimalware Engine Capabilities for Linux and macOS - My TechDecisions
22:05 schestowitz; microsoft, the security expert
22:05 schestowitz; 'secure' bot
22:06 DaemonFC; It's like how the car being a little heavier doesn't bother the engine too much if you have a V8 engine. Which everyone with a computer does now.
22:06 DaemonFC; But back then, running MINIX was like adding weight to a Geo Metro.
22:07 DaemonFC; The obvious answer in 1991 was that computers would be fast enough to do nearly anything, someday.
22:07 DaemonFC; But not in 1991.
22:08 bnchs; wtf is this
22:08 bnchs; microsoft pushes "antimalware" engine for linux and macos
22:08 bnchs; let me guess, it's gonna be microsoft's backdoor to censorship on all platforms
22:08 DaemonFC; Microsoft pushes anti-notourmalware engine for Linux.
22:08 DaemonFC; :)
22:09 DaemonFC; Like other forms of malware, Microsoft Defender first tries to attack competing malware to free up the system for itself.
22:10 DaemonFC; It then shows a green shield on the screen when it figures it's the remaining malware on the system and has accomplished its goal.
22:10 DaemonFC; bbiab
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22:11 AdmFubar; OMG! I'll have to proect my system againt m$ malware!
22:12 MinceR; can it detect and remove systemd?
22:12 AdmFubar; I was talking about m$ defender
22:13 bnchs; microsoft defender
22:13 bnchs; because it defends microsoft
22:13 bnchs; oh i deleted your webm video of ballmer rubbing thighs
22:13 bnchs; it was a malware
22:13 bnchs; no it doesn't make any sense, stop questioning me, I KNOW WHATS BEST FOR YOU
22:14 MinceR; yeah, i meant MICROS~1 defender too
22:15 AdmFubar; and if he wears those flint embedded pants you can see sparks when he walks
22:18 schestowitz; DaemonFC: I added an update http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
22:19 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
22:19 schestowitz; see ottom
22:20 AdmFubar; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/explained-google-crackdown-on-third-party-call-recording-apps-10606361.html
22:20 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: firstpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/explained-google-crackdown-on-third-party-call-recording-apps-10606361.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/explained-google-crackdown-on-third-party-call-recording-apps-10606361.html
22:20 TR Bot; Why Google is cracking down on third party call recording apps- Technology News, Firstpost
22:21 TR News; xkcd: Lightsabers https://xkcd.com/2612/ Source: xkcd
22:21 TR Bot; Lightsabers
22:21 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2612/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2612/
22:22 TR News; Microsoft loves Linux, according to Microsoft. And Putin loves the Ukraine...
22:23 AdmFubar; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/what-situations-can-make-elon-musk-pull-out-of-twitter-deal-10605381.html
22:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: firstpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/what-situations-can-make-elon-musk-pull-out-of-twitter-deal-10605381.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/what-situations-can-make-elon-musk-pull-out-of-twitter-deal-10605381.html
22:23 TR Bot; What could make Elon Musk back out of his bid to acquire Twitter- Technology News, Firstpost
22:24 TR News; Was Sean Michael Kerner PAID to promote this PROPRIETARY ATTACK on Git? He should know better. https://www.itprotoday.com/devops/github-desktop-30-improves-devops-collaboration There's corrupting force... getting writers to promote malicious things with puff pieces
22:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itprotoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itprotoday.com/devops/github-desktop-30-improves-devops-collaboration https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.itprotoday.com/devops/github-desktop-30-improves-devops-collaboration
22:24 TR Bot; GitHub Desktop 3.0 Enhances Collaboration for DevOps | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
22:25 TR News; Bluestar 5.17.4 https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/
22:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: sourceforge.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/
22:25 TR Bot; download | SourceForge.net
22:25 bnchs; wtf is bluestar linux
22:27 TR News; In another universe far far away a "LINUX FOUNDATION" protects and promotes Linux instead of bashing it and weakening it
22:28 MinceR; (fox) (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLXDHZcCKLU
22:28 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=HLXDHZcCKLU
22:28 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | A friendly fox - Invidious
22:28 TR News; Linux Foundation is a fraudulent org and it seems likely IRS could see it and withdrew their status. They make a lot of noise when people point out... no IRS filings since 2018 report.
22:32 TR News; The same year Linux Foundation issued last known IRS report the CFO left and several other strange things happened. In recent years they actively promote frauds like NFT. Maybe it's even done intentionally to discredit the "Linux" brand?
22:32 TR News; 5 Reasons to Try Out Zorin OS (and Which Edition to Go For) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164221
22:32 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/report-hackers-have-been-sexually-extorting-kids-with-data-stolen-from-tech-giants/
22:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/report-hackers-have-been-sexually-extorting-kids-with-data-stolen-from-tech-giants/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pogowasright.org/report-hackers-have-been-sexually-extorting-kids-with-data-stolen-from-tech-giants/
22:32 TR Bot; 5 Reasons to Try Out Zorin OS (and Which Edition to Go For) | Tux Machines
22:32 TR Bot; Report: Hackers Have Been Sexually Extorting Kids With Data Stolen From Tech Giants
22:32 TR News; Trade Edition of Affinities Now Available for Pre-order The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/blog/2022/04/affinities-trade-edition-available-for-pre-order/ Source: publicdomainreview
22:33 TR Bot; Trade Edition of *Affinities* Now Available for Pre-order The Public Domain Review
22:33 TR News; A Sword was Seen in the Sky: *A True and Wonderful Narrative* (1763) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/a-true-and-wonderful-narrative/ Source: publicdomainreview
22:33 TR Bot; A Sword was Seen in the Sky: *A True and Wonderful Narrative* (1763) The Public Domain Review
22:36 TR News; "The latest LTS release of one of the most popular desktop distributions is finally here - say hello to Pop!_OS 22.04! In this video, Jay will give you all the details about the release, including its new features, how it differs from Ubuntu, and more!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F4q0sHMiobQ
22:36 TR Bot; Pop!_OS 22.04: Full Review - Invidious
22:37 TR News; Easily moving Linux installs - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x6063EuxfEA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
22:37 TR Bot; Easily moving Linux installs - Invidious
22:37 TR News; 5 Reasons to Try Out Zorin OS (and Which Edition to Go For) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164222
22:37 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164222 )
22:38 TR News; There will NEVER be a year of the Linux desktop, but... - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2JVeepNxeFo we're still up against criminals (Microsoft) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988#comment-33323
22:38 TR Bot; There will NEVER be a year of the Linux desktop, but... - Invidious
22:39 TR Bot; Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines
22:39 TR News; "Gitlab kicking off some free accounts" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148387/you-git-what-you-pay-for-coder-radio-463/ but does it give you freedom? No, not quite... use something that's not two-faced
22:39 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148387/you-git-what-you-pay-for-coder-radio-463/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148387/you-git-what-you-pay-for-coder-radio-463/
22:39 TR Bot; You Git What You Pay For | Coder Radio 463 | Jupiter Broadcasting
22:45 TR News; Bruce Schneier: Conde Nast as a source again (Microsoft buddies) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/zero-day-vulnerabilities-are-on-the-rise.html
22:45 TR Bot; Vulnerabilities Are on the Rise - Schneier on Security
22:47 TR News; floppy: disable FDRAWCMD by default https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=233087ca063686964a53c829d547c7571e3f67bf Linux abandoning "legacy"
22:47 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
22:47 TR News; So-called 'legacy' https://lwn.net/Articles/892826/
22:47 TR Bot; not deprecating legacy BIOS - yet [LWN.net]
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22:49 TR News; MOST of the world's computers STILL use BIOS! ICBM: FUCK YOU!! BUY A NEW MACHINE ALREADY!! (Also: We are green! We pay Zemlin and the other frauds to say so) http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
22:49 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
22:51 TR News; A lot of "Microsoft" in there https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/27/2021-top-routinely-exploited-vulnerabilities
22:51 TR Bot; 2021 Top Routinely Exploited Vulnerabilities | CISA
22:51 TR News; Quit Twitter. Make his "asset" worthless. https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/elon-musk-twitter-dangers/
22:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: codastory.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/elon-musk-twitter-dangers/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.codastory.com/newsletters/elon-musk-twitter-dangers/
22:51 TR Bot; The global dangers of Elon Musks Twitter takeover - Coda Story
22:52 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164223
22:52 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:53 TR News; The Future of the NTFS Linux Driver as Part of the Kernel Is in Question Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164224
22:53 TR Bot; The Future of the NTFS Linux Driver as Part of the Kernel Is in Question | Tux Machines
22:55 TR News; Videos: Coder Radio, Year of GNU/Linux, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164225
22:55 TR Bot; Videos: Coder Radio, Year of GNU/Linux, and More | Tux Machines
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 60.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 330.75
22:59 TR News; Oh dear oh dear... "Medevel Editor's pick" once again makes the Medevel site an SEO webspam graveyard/link farm. NOT good.... stop vandalising your own sites! You'll earn nothing and lose everything!
23:00 TR News; Movin On Up A Little Higher, Part 1: Starting to Get Up Offa That Thang with Interoperability - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/movin-on-up-a-little-higher-part-1-starting-to-get-up-offa-that-thang-with-interoperability/ Source: publicknowledge
23:00 TR Bot; Movin On Up A Little Higher, Part 1: Starting to Get Up Offa That Thang with Interoperability - Public Knowledge
23:00 TR News; Security and FUD Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164226
23:00 TR Bot; Security and FUD | Tux Machines
23:00 TR News; Moving from Windows to Linux - Disk management Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164227
23:00 TR Bot; Moving from Windows to Linux - Disk management | Tux Machines
23:02 TR News; Hardware for a syslog-ng server - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/hardware-for-a-syslog-ng-server Source: syslog-ng
23:02 TR Bot; for a syslog-ng server - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
23:08 TR News; We need to foster a landscape where it's more gainful to support GNU/Linux than to attack it. As OSI and Linux Foundation show, there's more money to be made by ATTACKING GNU/Linux. And we know who pockets this money...
23:09 TR News; Disclosure missing: this site is heavily funded by AMD to promote AMD. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R600g-Better-Compute-2022
23:09 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R600g-Better-Compute-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R600g-Better-Compute-2022
23:09 TR Bot; R600g Driver For Old AMD GPUs Is Seeing New Activity To Improve GPU Compute - Phoronix
23:11 TR News; "The Web and design team at Canonical run two-week iterations building and maintaining all of the Canonical websites and product web interfaces. Here are some of the highlights of our completed work from this iteration." https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-22-april-2022
23:11 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-22-april-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-22-april-2022
23:11 TR Bot; and Web team summary 22 April 2022 | Ubuntu
23:12 TR News; "It should be clear to everyone now: E2EE is beneficial and desirable to support a rights-respecting society. If E2EE is desirable, then conceptually, its also desirable to make secure messaging interoperable across major communications platforms. Ill explain why." https://www.accessnow.org/encypt-messages/
23:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/encypt-messages/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/encypt-messages/
23:12 TR Bot; Encrypt all the messages across all the platforms - Access Now
23:12 TR News; "The nature of invention and innovation has been on my mind the past few weeks. Specifically, why we attribute some innovations to particular individuals but not others" https://tedium.co/2022/04/27/bubble-hockey-history/
23:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/27/bubble-hockey-history/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/27/bubble-hockey-history/
23:12 TR Bot; Bubble Hockey History: For the Hockey Lovers in Your Life
23:13 TR News; PDF: "Access Now contribution to UN Ad Hoc Committee to Elaborate a Comprehensive International Convention on Countering the Use of Information and Communication Technologies for Criminal Purposes." https://www.accessnow.org/cybercrime-un-ahc-contribution
23:13 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/cybercrime-un-ahc-contribution https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/cybercrime-un-ahc-contribution
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23:16 TR News; Linux Foundation today: "The Carbon Footprint of NFTs NFTs are simultaneously overhyped and met with both skepticism and a general lack of understanding on what they are and how they work." LF is now boosting a scam! under the guise of "Research"!!! https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf-research-one-year-recap-and-imagining-the-future/
23:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf-research-one-year-recap-and-imagining-the-future/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf-research-one-year-recap-and-imagining-the-future/
23:16 TR Bot; LF Research: One Year Recap and Imagining the Future - Linux Foundation
23:17 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/bugger-pan.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/12/dont-bend-over/ )
23:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/bugger-pan.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/bugger-pan.jpg
23:17 TR Bot; Dont bend over
23:18 TR News; Today we wish to take stock of a bunch of misleading, sensationalist coverage about Linux; as usual, Microsoft is connected to that, even more directly than one might expect http://techrights.org/2022/04/27/secfud-aggression-and-deflection/
23:18 TR Bot; Microsoft Aggression and Deflection (Against Linux) | Techrights
23:19 TR News; "In this project, were going to be making a Mini Plex Server with SSD storage using a ZimaBoard. If you havent heard of a ZimaBoard before, its a low-cost, feature-rich single board server well take a look at some of its features once we get it unboxed." https://www.the-diy-life.com/mini-plex-server-running-on-a-zimaboard-with-a-480gb-ssd/
23:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: the-diy-life.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.the-diy-life.com/mini-plex-server-running-on-a-zimaboard-with-a-480gb-ssd/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.the-diy-life.com/mini-plex-server-running-on-a-zimaboard-with-a-480gb-ssd/
23:19 TR Bot; Mini Plex Server Running On A ZimaBoard With A 480GB SSD - The DIY Life
23:19 TR News; RFID With Arduino Uno: RC522 Wiring and Code https://peppe8o.com/rfid-with-arduino-uno-rc522-wiring-and-code/ Source: peppe8o
23:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/rfid-with-arduino-uno-rc522-wiring-and-code/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://peppe8o.com/rfid-with-arduino-uno-rc522-wiring-and-code/
23:19 TR Bot; RFID With Arduino Uno: RC522 Wiring and Code
23:21 TR News; Apollo ISO bug is fixed for most users and also a workaround for those who need it. https://endeavouros.com/news/apollo-iso-bug-is-fixed-for-most-users-and-also-a-workaround-for-those-who-need-it/ "our recent Apollo ISO resulted in failed installations due to the recently updated Archlinux keyring."
23:21 TR Bot; ISO bug is fixed for most users and also a workaround for those who need it. EndeavourOS
23:21 TR News; [PULL] drm-intel-gt-next - Tvrtko Ursulin https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/Ymkfy8FjsG2JrodK@tursulin-mobl2/ Source: x86/intel/kernel
23:21 TR Bot; [PULL] drm-intel-gt-next - Tvrtko Ursulin
23:24 TR News; AlmaLinux 9 beta is now available and introduces several improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163920#comment-33480
23:24 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9 Beta--Now Available | Tux Machines
23:26 TR News; "PARTNER CONTENT" means IBM/Red Hat now bribes sites and publishers for puff pieces https://securitybrief.asia/story/red-hat-report-enterprise-open-source-new-pandemic-response
23:26 TR Bot; Red Hat report: Enterprise open source new pandemic response
23:26 TR News; "Compliance as Code" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/compliance-code-extending-compliance-automation-process-improvement
↺ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/compliance-code-extending-compliance-automation-process-improvement
23:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: redhat.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/compliance-code-extending-compliance-automation-process-improvement https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/compliance-code-extending-compliance-automation-process-improvement
23:26 TR Bot; Compliance as Code: Extending compliance automation for process improvement
23:27 TR News; Arch Linuxs Archinstall Gets a Brand-New Menu System, Many Other New Features Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164228
23:27 TR Bot; Arch Linuxs Archinstall Gets a Brand-New Menu System, Many Other New Features | Tux Machines
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23:31 TR News; The WWW rapidly became manifestation and infestation of proprietary software, neither open standards nor freedom-respecting anything. Move to Gemini, little by little...
23:32 SomeH4x0r; or discard shitty updates and use sane HTML
23:32 TR News; Beelink SER 4 4800U X pairs a Ryzen 7 CPU with Manjaro Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164229
23:32 TR Bot; Beelink SER 4 4800U X pairs a Ryzen 7 CPU with Manjaro Linux | Tux Machines
23:32 SomeH4x0r; otherwise IRC is already dead because IRCv3
23:32 SomeH4x0r; but we can discard it
23:33 TR News; "But English is the worlds most widely spoken L2; four times more people know it than the second most common L2, the MSA variety of Arabic. Though thats just a written language, and we were talking about spoken L2." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/world-language
23:34 TR News; "These days when you stumble upon a humble Web 1.0 or even 2.0 site that's still up and runnning chances are it's a no-nonsense, no-BS website that does exactly what it says on the tin." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/905
23:36 TR News; "I am being demoted at work. It is a administrative reorganisation thing, unique I guess to huge administrations. Same job, same money - for now, different title (under-minion) Someone somewhere does not know what I do, and luckily management are asking awkward questions..." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/907
23:37 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: does ircv3 cause issues for clients that do not support it?
23:38 schestowitz-TR; afaik, they just cannot take advantage of certain features
23:38 SomeH4x0r; SASL enforcement yes
23:38 schestowitz-TR; not here
23:38 schestowitz-TR; also, you are 17
23:38 schestowitz-TR; when you were born irc was already not simple
23:38 schestowitz-TR; i used irc when i was 14 iirc
23:39 schestowitz-TR; maybe 13
23:39 schestowitz-TR; irc has not changed much
23:39 DaemonFC; It has for me. I'm not using mIRC now.
23:39 schestowitz-TR; the clients just look a lot better because of toolkits and better hardware, inc. displays
23:39 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: mIRC was the first for msny
23:39 schestowitz-TR; it's still around
23:39 schestowitz-TR; you might want to try it with trumpet winsock and this network
23:40 schestowitz-TR; it might even work, still
23:40 DaemonFC; Yeah, it has product activation now.
23:40 schestowitz-TR; but without ssl
23:40 DaemonFC; I guess you could just use the last version that didn't.
23:40 SomeH4x0r; product activation is cracked a lot of the time
23:40 schestowitz-TR; is mirc even worth paying for?
23:40 schestowitz-TR; quassel is very nice
23:41 schestowitz-TR; nicer than konversation, but I got used to konversation, xchat etc.
23:41 DaemonFC; mIRC had a lot of nice features at the time, but you had to be careful with them.
23:41 DaemonFC; Some extensions were malicious.
23:42 DaemonFC; Basically, they could be macro viruses in the VBS-like script it uses, or they could load malicious Windows programs in dll files.
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23:42 TR News; Microsoft Windows kills hospital patients all the time https://dwaves.de/2022/04/27/freebsd-based-citrix-vpn-hacked-in-massive-hostpital-healthcare-hack-in-germany-cve-2019-19781-hits-healthcare-hospital-in-germany-causing-death-of-at-least-1-person/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/
23:42 TR Bot; FreeBSD based Citrix VPN hacked in massive hostpital healthcare hack in Germany CVE 2019 19781 hits healthcare hospital in Germany, causing death of (at least) 1 person | dwaves.de
23:42 TR Bot; Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights
23:43 TR News; "Questions about religion, race, national origin, age, disability, marital status, and sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy) are not acceptable." https://www.fosslife.org/12-tips-successful-job-interview
23:43 TR Bot; 12 Tips for a Successful Job Interview
23:46 DaemonFC; "Disney's self-governing district says Florida cannot dissolve it without paying off its debts"
23:46 DaemonFC; LOL
23:46 TR News; NEW: LVFS: Vendor Product Certifications https://fwupd.org/lvfs/vendors/prodcerts Source: fwupd
23:46 TR Bot; LVFS: Vendor Product Certifications
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23:47 SomeH4x0r; wb
23:47 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: when corporations become peop
23:47 schestowitz-TR; *people and NATIONS!
23:47 schestowitz-TR; you know this world is a big farce
23:47 DaemonFC; They managed to put a billion dollars in debt into a "government" district that they control.
23:47 DaemonFC; To make it impossible for Florida to shut it down without moving a billion dollars in debt obligations of Disney onto the state's books.
23:47 MinceR; corporations are people, my friend!
23:48 schestowitz-TR; next: menstruating unicorns
23:48 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: corporations are evil, my friend!
23:48 MinceR; humans are evil, my friend!
23:49 schestowitz-TR; evil is evil, brexit means brexit
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23:49 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.jpg
23:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.jpg
23:50 SomeH4x0r; wget says it is gif, not jpg
23:50 bnchs; imgur's server is retarded a bit
23:50 MinceR; that's because it's a gif
23:50 TR News; "With GNU/Linux being Free software, its code can be tweaked and modified to meet specific user requirements - something which is not possible with the closed source Windows and macOS systems." https://www.itpro.co.uk/software/364316/windows-vs-linux-vs-mac-the-channel-comparison
23:50 TR Bot; Windows vs. Linux vs. Mac: the channel comparison | IT PRO
23:50 MinceR; same contents >> https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.gif
23:50 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.gif https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.gif
23:51 schestowitz-TR; imgur is polymorphic :)
23:51 SomeH4x0r; bnchs: btw, one more player on UplinkIRC, though they said nothing. I go to sleep now.
23:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Disney should default on the bonds.
23:51 schestowitz-TR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.xxx
23:51 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.xxx )
23:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.xxx https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.xxx
23:51 DaemonFC; It's Florida's problem when the bondholders come after the state government for it.
23:51 bnchs; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.png
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23:52 bnchs; imgur's server reports gif on the content-type header
23:52 bnchs; the extension on the URL doesn't mean shit anymore
23:52 MinceR; it never meant shit
23:52 SomeH4x0r; oh, iirc sometimes .png having better quality than .jpg on imgur
23:52 DaemonFC; The bonds are attached to a district of Florida government, not the Disney corporation. So the credit rating damage will be to Florida, not Disney.
23:52 MinceR; it's a uniform resource locator, not a path or file name
23:52 DaemonFC; This is what happens when you allow something like this to happen to begin with, schestowitz-TR
23:52 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: but try with xxx
23:52 schestowitz-TR; 404
23:52 MinceR; you might receive a filename in the HTTP header though
23:53 bnchs; they only check common file extensions
23:53 bnchs; i think
23:53 MinceR; in the Content-Disposition field
23:53 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: but "the internet is for porn" (satire)
23:53 MinceR; so grab your dick and double-click for porn, porn, porn
23:53 schestowitz-TR; so their website is dumb
23:53 schestowitz-TR; they ignore the last bit
23:53 bnchs; the internet is for any kind of porn
23:54 schestowitz-TR; but reject it is unknown content mime type?
23:54 bnchs; MinceR, no they don't report the actual filename in content-disposition field
23:54 MinceR; they handle some suffixes in a special way, iirc
23:54 bnchs; so the browser will download the gif as a PNG or jpg
23:54 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: but try with txt
23:54 MinceR; yeah, they don't
23:54 schestowitz-TR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.txt
23:54 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.txt )
23:54 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.txt https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.txt
23:54 MinceR; but if they wanted to, that's where they could do it
23:55 schestowitz-TR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.mp3
23:55 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.mp3 )
23:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.mp3 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.mp3
23:55 MinceR; for example, the .gifv suffix is treated specially
23:55 bnchs; https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.tiff
23:55 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.tiff )
23:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.tiff https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.tiff
23:55 schestowitz-TR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.bmp
23:55 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.bmp )
23:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.bmp https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.bmp
23:55 MinceR; it gives you a simple html page
23:55 MinceR; with a video version of a gif embedded (if applicable)
23:55 MinceR; and set to loop
23:56 schestowitz-TR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.@killall@reboot localhost
23:56 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.@killall@reboot )
23:56 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.@killall@reboot https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.@killall@reboot
23:56 MinceR; and if you omit the suffix (. included), you get redirected to the relevant page on imgur's website (imgur.com, not i.imgur.com)
23:56 schestowitz-TR; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.png
23:56 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui )
23:56 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.png
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23:57 bnchs; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.giftechrights
23:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.giftechrights https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.giftechrights
23:57 bnchs; it only checks the first characters
23:57 TR News; "We're happy to announce Kiwi TCMS version 11.3 which is the 100th tagged version in our git repository!" https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2022/04/27/kiwi-tcms-113/
23:57 TR Bot; Kiwi TCMS - Kiwi TCMS 11.3
23:57 bnchs; https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.giftechrights@killall@reboot
23:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.giftechrights@killall@reboot https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/7Xb44Ui.giftechrights@killall@reboot
23:58 TR News; Maybe Bill Gates was close friends of Jeffrey Epstein for a little pentesting
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