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00:03 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/26/i-was-reading-a-blog-in-geminispace-yesterday-the-guy-was-talking-about-natural-gas-prices-in-the-uk-being-so-high-that-almost-50-risk-being-cut-off-this-winter/
00:03 TR Bot; I was reading a blog in Geminispace yesterday. The guy was talking about natural gas prices in the UK being so high that almost 50% risk being cut off this winter. | BaronHK's Rants
00:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], There you go.
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00:04 TR News; Full transparency on the Grub issue https://endeavouros.com/news/full-transparency-on-the-grub-issue/
00:04 TR Bot; transparency on the Grub issue EndeavourOS
00:04 DaemonFC; Mostly another story about Indiana ~20 years ago and why I don't have any sympathy for the people getting their gas turned off in the winter.
00:05 DaemonFC; They never cared when I was having a difficult time. Maybe freezing with their gas turned off this winter will teach them a lesson.
00:05 CrystalMath; 77
00:05 CrystalMath; oops
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: looking...
00:06 DaemonFC; If they never have their gas turned off, they won't get mad that some people have to live that way constantly.
00:06 DaemonFC; MinceR would agree with me, as a fellow misanthrope, that the only way to get people to care is if it's happening to them too.
00:08 DaemonFC; Federal programs and stuff get a lot less "suspicious" of people asking for help when things are just terrible in general.
00:08 DaemonFC; Then they get really mean again a few years later.
00:08 TR News; "And then I realized in a way, 50% having their heat shut off for a winter because they cant pay it might be a good thing from a certain point of view." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/26/i-was-reading-a-blog-in-geminispace-yesterday-the-guy-was-talking-about-natural-gas-prices-in-the-uk-being-so-high-that-almost-50-risk-being-cut-off-this-winter/
00:08 DaemonFC; So for a few years, things actually IMPROVE for people near the bottom.
00:08 DaemonFC; Because they ask for food. Hell, everyone's asking for food.
00:08 DaemonFC; Join the club.
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; "Roy on TechRights lives in the UK and is always in a feud with me over whether the UK or the US is falling apart faster. Theyre ahead of us in many ways, with less violent crime perhaps.
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; "
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; Look at index like national debt
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; or literacy
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; or access to health
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; the gist is,
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; many i the US hope they had "UK problems"
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; instead of "US problems"|
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; like classrooms massacres, tent cities etc.
00:11 DaemonFC; Oh you will have problems.
00:11 DaemonFC; Believe me, you will.
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; will
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; sure
00:11 DaemonFC; 20% annual inflation.
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; you will too
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; it's all relative
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; the whole world has problesm right now
00:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I have health coverage good enough to go get my maintenance meds at least.
00:12 DaemonFC; That's better than some.
00:13 DaemonFC; The patents have expired on all of this stuff. 20 years ago you had to be rich to take these medicines that keep chronic health problems from slowly killing you.
00:13 DaemonFC; You had to be rich.
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; yes
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; US has "the best" healthcare
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; but only for the rich
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; best hoispitals, docs etc.
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; for the rich
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; multi-tired society of haves and have-nots
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; wrt to car
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; **care
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; *tiered
00:14 DaemonFC; 20 years from now, the patents run out, and the poor get access to the standard of care from 2022.
00:14 DaemonFC; You know?
00:14 DaemonFC; Right now, it's early 2000s blockbusters.
00:14 DaemonFC; And the drug companies don't even like this.
00:14 TR News; Whistleblowers from Facebook, Twitter and maybe more companies to come have revealed information of interest to the general public and its hard to simply discredit such high-profile staff; one foregone conclusion is that these companies are misleading their own users and are well aware of that http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/fake-social-control-media/
00:15 TR Bot; Traffic in Social Control Media is Fake, Based on Whistleblowers Too | Techrights
00:15 DaemonFC; It's a license to steal and cheat, but only for 20 years per drug.
00:15 TR News; Microsofts slide into irrelevance carries on this summer (no wonder there are many layoffs); Notice that Microsofts ranks on the Web are so low now that in 3 out of 5 charts Microsoft isnt even named in the tables anymore (in the other 2 its listed last) http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/august-2022-web-server-survey/
00:15 TR Bot; Amid Layoffs (Culling of Almost 20,000 Permanent Microsoft Employees) the Market Share of Microsoft/Windows/IIS Continues to Collapse in the World Wide Web | Techrights
00:15 DaemonFC; And then it goes into the pool of generics and anyone can get it and nobody really has to go without that again.
00:15 TR News; Excluding ChromeOS and Android (which also contain Linux), what we see here is ongoing growth of GNU/Linux and Unknown (certainly not Microsoft and Apple); in some countries GNU/Linux rose above 20% in market share in recent months, contributing to this tide http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/august-desktops-laptops/
00:15 TR Bot; GNU/Linux Market Share Worldwide, Based on 3 Million Sites Logs, Rose to All-Time High (3%) This Month | Techrights
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> 20 years from now, the patents run out, and the poor get access to the standard of care from 2022.
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; they stop manufacturing
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; like with mp3
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; they roll over to another one
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; and wage a war on non-patented stuff
00:16 DaemonFC; They didn't stop manufacturing Crestor.
00:16 DaemonFC; It's cheap!
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; patent evergreening
00:16 DaemonFC; As a generic.
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; even if india makes generics
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot import it
00:16 DaemonFC; Yeah, they keep coming up with new drugs that are basically the same thing except patents are back.
00:16 DaemonFC; And they send lobbyists to your doctor's office.
00:17 DaemonFC; If your doctor won't go with generics, you have a corrupt doctor and you need to find someone else.
00:18 DaemonFC; Crestor is such a powerful cholesterol medication that even at 5 mg (the lowest dose) it's as effective as Lipitor 40 mg.
00:18 DaemonFC; They're in a competition to make things so powerful you barely need any dosage at all, sometimes.
00:18 DaemonFC; That's where they compete.
00:18 DaemonFC; "Hey, you have a patient with stubbornly high cholesterol? Our pill is so tiny you can hardly see it!"
00:19 DaemonFC; They're doing that with HIV drugs too.
00:19 DaemonFC; They do act like Microsoft. They slander their own product when it gets old and they want you off of it.
00:19 DaemonFC; It used to be the best thing ever, and now that's old! Sure this new one costs a fortune, but you don't want that old one anymore!
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00:20 DaemonFC; For most patients with HIV, old drug cocktails work fine and the cash price is expensive, but like $400 a month with a coupon, right?
00:20 DaemonFC; So they want to move you over to a $4,000 pill.
00:20 DaemonFC; $4,000 a month pill.
00:20 DaemonFC; $133.33 a pill.
00:20 DaemonFC; That must be a good pill. It's $133!
00:20 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/adnashmyash/status/1563086182971752449 This clip is everywhere now.
00:20 TR Bot; Borodin (@adnashmyash): "What does Russian culture look like? Today it is represented by the famous Russian film director Mikhalkov, speaking about the need for a ban in Ukrainian (Russian-occupied) schools of the Ukrainian language and Russian teachers happily nodding at this. Just ordinary Nazism!"|nitter.it
00:21 DaemonFC; The other one keeps you alive for $13 a pill. That's not a very good pill, schestowitz[TR]
00:21 XRevan86; Mikhalkov airs a programme on state TV, and one of the episodes he called "Are You a Hunter or a Faggot?'
00:21 DaemonFC; Their goal is to keep people on the expensive pills even if they don't need them, even if they don't work better.
00:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Some people qualify for "programs" and if you do, I mean, good for you. Take the expensive pill if the drug company will rebate it.
00:22 XRevan86; That was in July.
00:23 DaemonFC; I'm happy. But some people make too much money, and it's a financial decision.
00:23 DaemonFC; I'm not on THOSE pills, thank god.
00:23 DaemonFC; But I feel bad for the people I know who are.
00:23 DaemonFC; We're the only first world country that still has so many people dying of AIDS.
00:23 DaemonFC; Seriously. AIDS!
00:24 DaemonFC; It shouldn't be 7,000 a year. It shouldn't even be 100.
00:24 DaemonFC; If it was just down to treatment failure, the US would have 50 or 60 AIDS deaths in the entire nation, per year.
00:24 DaemonFC; But it's 7,000.
00:25 DaemonFC; Peter Staley took the drug company money and stopped criticizing them.
00:25 DaemonFC; Started advertising their wares.
00:25 DaemonFC; Peter Staley is to the gay rights movement what Matthew GULAG is to open source.
00:25 DaemonFC; Or Free Software, he says he's a Free Software guy.
00:26 DaemonFC; He finds ways to write software that protects Microsoft from being sued.
00:26 DaemonFC; While they make our PCs nastier.
00:26 DaemonFC; Did he ever start out at a Free Software guy? I don't know.
00:27 DaemonFC; I think Staley started out as an activist, while he was dying and while he was mad that the only thing that could help him was $10,000 a month in 1985.
00:27 DaemonFC; When he was in no danger of dying anymore, he called it, and went to work for the drug companies.
00:28 DaemonFC; Even people who start out with good intentions, or at least try to do good for selfish reasons, can be turned later.
00:28 DaemonFC; I mean, look at Charlton Heston. He was not a dumb guy.
00:28 DaemonFC; He was very well educated.
00:28 MinceR; "If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed!"
00:28 DaemonFC; He was a strong promoter of things like labor unions.
00:28 DaemonFC; And then he flipped and endorsed Ronald Reagan.
00:29 DaemonFC; <MinceR> "If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed!"
00:29 DaemonFC; Vader?
00:30 DaemonFC; There's nobody fighting against the drug companies anymore.
00:30 DaemonFC; They have it down to 7,000 AIDS deaths a year, and most of them are poor blacks in the south.
00:31 DaemonFC; So the Staleys can rest now and go on the drug company payroll and not care.
00:31 DaemonFC; Illinois only very recently repealed its criminal AIDS law.
00:31 DaemonFC; Leftover from the AIDS panic, but even Cook County was trying to enforce it.
00:32 DaemonFC; Up until it was repealed!
00:32 MinceR; Sidious
00:32 DaemonFC; I mean, you'd think the only justification for repeal would need to be "It is common knowledge that having unprotected sex is a risk for HIV.".
00:33 DaemonFC; I think I'd make an interesting judge.
00:37 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was reading the case law of Indiana's former sodomy law.
00:37 DaemonFC; From before it was repealed in the mid 70s.
00:38 DaemonFC; In one case, a man argued to the state Supreme Court that he couldn't be convicted for Sodomy because it was not explained to him that the guy he was having sex with in prison was a human being.
00:38 DaemonFC; The court ruled that it was common knowledge that prisoners are human beings and denied his appeal.
00:39 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22081519
00:39 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/g4az2vhjxig91.jpg created on 2022-08-15 08:29:50.263125
00:39 *MinceR takes a fly prisoner
00:39 MinceR; "behold, a human being!"
00:40 DaemonFC; https://law.justia.com/cases/indiana/supreme-court/1978/1278s291-2.html
00:40 TR Bot; Russell v. State :: 1978 :: Supreme Court of Indiana Decisions :: Indiana Case Law :: Indiana Law :: US Law :: Justia
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00:43 DaemonFC; Hmm, not a full transcript. Where was that.
00:44 DaemonFC; Maybe this is the wrong case.
00:44 DaemonFC; "The last reported Indiana sodomy case was Russell v. State142 from 1975. An appellate court unanimously rejected a novel claim from a prisoner accused of sexually assaulting another prisoner. Defendant Russell claimed that it was not made clear at the outset of the trial that the victim was a human being. The appellate court judges commendably kept their laughter well under control in deciding that it was "common knowledge" that prisoners kept
00:44 DaemonFC; in jail were human beings.143"
00:44 DaemonFC; Ahh, I need to find the one from 1975.
00:46 DaemonFC; https://www.anylaw.com/case/02-06-75-danny-ray-russell-v-state-indiana/indiana-court-of-appeals/02-06-1975/Yq-OS2YBTlTomsSB1fG8
00:46 TR Bot; DANNY RAY RUSSELL v. STATE INDIANA | Indiana Court of Appeals | 02-06-1975 | www.anylaw.com
00:46 DaemonFC; There's something from the trial court.
00:46 DaemonFC; Which was copied into the Appeals Court as background of the case.
00:46 DaemonFC; Trying to find court records from the 1970s is difficult.
00:47 DaemonFC; "The 15 year old youth resisted attempts to sodomize him but was unsuccessful. The appellant and another, his co-defendant, penetrated the 15 year old youth anually."
00:47 DaemonFC; MinceR, Penetrated him annually.
00:47 DaemonFC; The courts are wonderful, aren't they?
00:49 DaemonFC; "At the close of the State's evidence and at the close of all the evidence appellant moved the court for a discharge, contending that a prima facie case had not been made by the State against him for the reason that the State had failed to prove the fact that the assaulted youth was a human being. He further claimed that the court took judicial notice of the fact that the prosecuting witness was a human being after the motion was first filed
00:49 DaemonFC; but prior to the overruling of said motion. (The motion was again overruled at the close of all the evidence.)"
00:51 DaemonFC; The text of the law said that the state had to prove that the act occurred with a human being, and his argument was that the state never argued that the victim was human until after the trial was in progress.
00:51 DaemonFC; Well, he may well have been right, actually. In a technical sense.
00:52 DaemonFC; If the criminal complaint never read out that the crime was committed on a human being.
00:52 DaemonFC; But there was no way the court was going to let him go;
00:56 DaemonFC; MinceR, That's the state for you.
00:57 DaemonFC; Even if you are right, they're not letting you win.
00:57 DaemonFC; He committed a crime, but the prosecutor screwed up in a way that should have fouled the case.
00:57 DaemonFC; But the judges ignored it and convicted him anyway.
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01:00 DaemonFC; https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges
01:00 TR Bot; LinuxChanges - Linux Kernel Newbies
01:00 DaemonFC; "Some people want to use XFS to store hundreds of millions of xattrs per inode. This release adds an on-disk format change to allow these huge number of extended attributes. This change also increases the number of supported data extents per inode from 232 to 247, and a new logging feature is introduced that lays the foundation for future integration of attribute modifications as part of other atomic transactional operations. "
01:00 DaemonFC; :/
01:01 MinceR; 27 014745 < DaemonFC> The courts are wonderful, aren't they?
01:01 MinceR; indeed
01:04 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Sounds boring.
01:06 DaemonFC; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=62b32fd961cf2d8b2c9fdcd8d58abeb184bb439b
01:06 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
01:06 DaemonFC; ACPICA: Add support for the Windows 11 _OSI string
01:06 DaemonFC; Dear God, there's a separate _OSI string for all of the versions of Windows 10.
01:06 DaemonFC; That got spammy.
01:08 DaemonFC; They added 9 of them since Windows 10 was released.
01:08 XRevan86; The "See" link is broken, that's nice.
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01:18 MinceR; lol ACPI
01:19 XRevan86; Every cumulative update should get a string.
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01:33 TR News; Copyright Troll Targets Articles About EPO Corruption | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/copyright-trolls/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/26/copyright-trolls/
01:33 TR Bot; Copyright Troll Targets Articles About EPO Corruption | Techrights
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01:39 TR News; This August was fascinating in the sense that we grappled with likely legally-invalid threats from Germany, on behalf of someone from the Czech Republic http://techrights.org/2022/08/26/copyright-trolls/
01:40 TR News; OKdo To Manufacture Raspberry Pi Rockchip Powered Alternative | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/okdo-to-manufacture-sell-raspberry-pi-alternative Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/okdo-to-manufacture-sell-raspberry-pi-alternative
01:40 TR Bot; OKdo To Manufacture Raspberry Pi Rockchip Powered Alternative | Tom's Hardware
01:40 TR News; Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Powers 'Octapod' Portable Music Player | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-octapod-music-player Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-octapod-music-player
01:40 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Powers 'Octapod' Portable Music Player | Tom's Hardware
01:41 TR News; Maker's Raspberry Pi Apple Hack is an Instant Classic | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/paper-mac-uses-raspberry-pi Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/paper-mac-uses-raspberry-pi
01:41 TR Bot; Maker's Raspberry Pi Apple Hack is an Instant Classic | Tom's Hardware
01:42 TR News; Adding ESRT and EFI vars support for fwupd https://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/kernel/2022-August/320331.html
01:42 TR Bot; Adding ESRT and EFI vars support for fwupd
01:45 TR News; How to Create Custom Grub Menu Backgrounds for Linux Boots | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/customize-grub-menu-backgrounds Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/how-to/customize-grub-menu-backgrounds
01:45 TR Bot; How to Create Custom Grub Menu Backgrounds for Linux Boots | Tom's Hardware
01:45 TR News; Copying https://www.engadget.com/ex-apple-employee-pleads-guilty-stealing-self-driving-car-secrets-064419668.html?src=rss
01:45 TR Bot; Apple employee pleads guilty to stealing self-driving car secrets | Engadget
01:45 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel 6.1 Introduces Faulty CPU Core Detection Logging Feature https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_Kernel_6_1_Introduces_Faulty_CPU_Core_Detection_Logging_F.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_Kernel_6_1_Introduces_Faulty_CPU_Core_Detection_Logging_F.gmi
01:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.1 Introduces Faulty CPU Core Detection Logging Feature
01:46 TR News; The best Chromebooks you can buy https://www.engadget.com/best-chromebooks-160054646.html?src=rss
01:46 TR Bot; best Chromebooks you can buy | Engadget
01:47 TR News; The Bigme InkNote Color Is the Best E Ink Tablet We've Ever Used https://gizmodo.com/bigme-inknote-color-e-ink-paper-reader-remarkable-2-1849441620 Linux...
01:47 TR Bot; The Bigme InkNote Color Is the Best E Ink Tablet We've Ever Used
01:49 TR News; WTH? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/style/chelsea-manning-dj-brooklyn.html
01:49 TR Bot; Chelsea Manning, Brooklyn D.J. - The New York Times
01:50 TR News; Banks of UK To Collect Fees for Frozen Russian Accounts | News | teleSUR English https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Banks-of-UK-To-Collect-Fees-for-Frozen-Russian-Accounts--20220822-0017.html Source: teleSUR | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.telesurenglish.net/news/Banks-of-UK-To-Collect-Fees-for-Frozen-Russian-Accounts--20220822-0017.html
01:50 TR Bot; Banks of UK To Collect Fees for Frozen Russian Accounts | News | teleSUR English
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01:59 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.gmi
01:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
02:00 TR News; "Apparently, there is upstream, open-source support for Intel Arc Graphics on Linux albeit not enabled by default as of Linux 6.0. While you will not have Arc Graphics working on H2'2022 Linux distributions, aside from any distros that may decide to back-port, the i915 DRM kernel changes and ship with a bleeding-edge Mesa." https://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/55389-chipzilla-goes-all-open-saucy
02:00 TR Bot; Chipzilla goes all open saucy
02:02 TR News; (NEW): NetworkManager 1.40 Released with Multipath TCP Support, Improved Carrier Detection https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/NetworkManager_1_40_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/NetworkManager_1_40_Released.gmi
02:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines NetworkManager 1.40 Released with Multipath TCP Support, Improved Carrier Detection
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02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 26, 2022
02:45 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-26.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-26.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:46 souseksi; techrights-news: Thank you for providing bulletin.
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02:58 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Every cumulative update should get a string.
02:58 DaemonFC; 0x147 ACPI_OSI_WIN_11_Broken_Print_Spooler_Update
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 131.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.08
03:01 souseksi; DaemonFC: funny joke.
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 227419 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42305 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 3 weeks 1 days ago
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 7.8 GB TotalOut: 2.5 GB
03:03 phanes; hey what are you guys using to find deleted reddit comments?
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:05 souseksi; phanes: I'm sorry, I can't help you with this problem.
03:11 phanes; souseksi, not you, I was asking the smart people
03:13 souseksi; phanes: Taken into consideration.
03:17 DaemonFC; <phanes> hey what are you guys using to find deleted reddit comments?
03:18 DaemonFC; Let's be honest.
03:18 DaemonFC; By deleted Reddit comments you mean porn that people later took down, right?
03:18 DaemonFC; ;)
03:18 phanes; nah im researching for taodb
03:19 phanes; while i eat this absolutely amazing spaghetti i made completely from scratch
03:19 souseksi; phanes: Bon appetit.
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 phanes; its stupid expensive to make from scratch though
03:20 phanes; cost like 130 bucks for all the ingredients
03:21 DaemonFC; archive.org occasionally saves some things deleted from Reddit, for a time.
03:21 DaemonFC; If it was a recent delete, you might start there.
03:21 phanes; im researching the garrett -> ted t'so / rape apology accusation incident
03:30 phanes; it seems extremely likely his fiance hosted the appelbaum attack site
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 128.36
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:23 phanes; https://weeksnews.org/en/Matthew_Garrett#cite_ref-defamation-contributor-crime_19-0
04:23 TR Bot; Matthew Garrett Life and career, Advocacy Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
04:46 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/2015-10-05/
04:46 TR Bot; TAODB
04:57 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/2017-02-27/
04:57 TR Bot; TAODB
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 10.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 111.76
04:59 phanes; https://www.abuseonline.org/database/Garrett,%20Matthew/2015-10-05/
05:00 phanes; woops copy/paste fail on that last one
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:43 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/08/26/1119746511/jeffrey-epstein-mentor-steven-hoffenberg-dead
05:43 TR Bot; Jeffrey Epstein mentor Steven Hoffenberg was found dead in Connecticut : NPR
05:43 DaemonFC; Garrett is a snake.
05:44 DaemonFC; He pretty much just sits back and waits for the slightest excuse to go on the attack against actual contributors to Free Software.
05:44 DaemonFC; It doesn't matter how slight the transgression. He'll blow it entirely out of proportion. Make a big stink about nothing.
05:44 DaemonFC; Then wait for the Microsoft "journalists" to cover him.
05:45 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/26/1111710227/at-988-call-centers-crisis-counselors-offer-empathy-and-juggle-limited-resources
05:45 TR Bot; Calls are up, but many 988 call centers lack resources to offer in-person help : Shots - Health News : NPR
05:45 DaemonFC; LOL!
05:45 DaemonFC; "Slow down, sir! We can only dox people and leave them in $30,000 worth of medical debt for three days of observation so quickly, you know!"
05:46 DaemonFC; "You know, you'll be lucky if you're even alive by the time we send the police to check on you, so you should really just hold your damned horses!"
05:47 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/26/1119659681/early-signs-suggest-monkeypox-may-be-slowing-in-the-u-s
05:47 TR Bot; Monkeypox spread appears to be slowing in major U.S. cities : Shots - Health News : NPR
05:48 DaemonFC; It's probably dropping off because gay men are "pausing" Grindr and waiting to see how this plays out.
05:48 DaemonFC; The ones who won't stop are the ones who will get it.
05:48 DaemonFC; Then hopefully they'll be immune from having been infected and won't be vectors again.
05:49 DaemonFC; Back to suicide "prevention".
05:50 DaemonFC; It's a lark. You know, people who call those things are obviously having second thoughts already.
05:50 DaemonFC; People who do it go ahead and do it.
05:50 DaemonFC; Basically, it's like this "self abuse" line for the mentally ill.
05:50 DaemonFC; The consequences of calling that number are going to make whatever you're going through now seem pretty good by the time they get done with you.
05:51 DaemonFC; They take you somewhere, "observe" you, get a court to declare you incompetent to have a gun permit, and then you have the State Police going through your house.
05:52 DaemonFC; Then while that's going on, the "mental health center" charges you $30,000 for being there and dumps you out with 30 days worth of medication, which some psychiatrist who saw you once or twice for a total of 20 minutes thinks you should take, based on a guess about what might be "wrong with you".
05:53 DaemonFC; And even if he was right, which, he was probably not, you won't get follow up care unless you have good insurance, and if your life was going so well that you have good insurance, you probably wouldn't have been having suicidal ideation.
05:53 DaemonFC; So you don't get that and can't get a prescription, and even if you could get a prescription, the drugs themselves are $1,500 a month and also don't work, except that they might cause suicide. Says so right on the bottle.
05:54 DaemonFC; If you dive into the research studies on SSRI antidepressants, you'll find that they barely worked better than the placebo, except in the studies where the placebo and the drug were equally effective, which they decided not to submit to the FDA, which is fine for some reason.
05:55 DaemonFC; There's the black box suicide warning.
05:55 DaemonFC; So we know they're doing something, and it's not good.
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05:55 DaemonFC; And then everyone who starts taking them tends to gain weight and lose the ability to become sexually aroused.
05:57 DaemonFC; "They don't give a fuck about you.....they don't give a fuck about you.....they don't give a fuck about you, at all, at all.....at all....." -George Carlin on Politicians, but may as well say this about "mental health professionals" as well.
05:57 DaemonFC; Carlin said "Politicians" want to line their pockets and don't give a fuck about you.
05:57 DaemonFC; Same with "mental health professionals".
05:58 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/08/26/1119608060/moderna-sues-pfizer-over-covid-19-vaccine-patents
05:58 TR Bot; Moderna sues Pfizer over COVID-19 vaccine patents : Shots - Health News : NPR
05:58 DaemonFC; :)
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 143.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 110.06
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:26 AdmFubar; https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/26/justice-department-antitrust-apple-00053939
06:26 TR Bot; faces growing likelihood of DOJ antitrust suit - POLITICO
06:28 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, August 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
06:28 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
06:28 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
06:28 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
06:35 TR News; "For almost ten months, advancing Free Software was my 'main project'. I never put any effort toward monetizing these pursuits, so its inevitable I would eventually engage in a time-for-money exchange." gemini://gemini.zachdecook.com/capsule/2022-08-26-no-status.gmi
06:35 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D335.jpg
06:36 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D685.jpg
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06:55 DaemonFC; Bleeping Computer now bans all VPN users and displays a Protected by Clownflare page instead.
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 122.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 87.03
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; "Protected"
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; here is the thing
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; [start longrant /]
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; in w3c validators they put clownflare
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; so you need proprietary JS to use their validators
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; and if you are bklind, you may be out of luck
07:02 schestowitz[TR]; good luck "seeing" all those buses and trains and stuff
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; so a month or so ago they re-branded that cancer
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; the cancer being clownflare
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; and they say things like "device ir protected'
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; or "security check"
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; they clearly miuse words
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; like "secure boot"
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; what they mean is
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; your device ran some proprietary malware
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; so now it's sdecure
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; or safe
07:03 schestowitz[TR]; or authorised
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; when in fact it's more like "tampered with"
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; that's what happened to the words safe and security
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; they mean cororater-friendly
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; or corporate-controlled
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; is your devices coming with bug doors?
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; or back doors like "remove automatic update"
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; then "secure"
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; code for, controlled by NSA
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; or spied on by clownflare
07:04 schestowitz[TR]; [end rant]
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07:09 starstreak; <schestowitz[TR]> the cancer being clownflare
07:09 starstreak; lol clownflare
07:09 starstreak; good name
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:23 schestowitz[TR]; cloud->clown
07:23 schestowitz[TR]; lots of things
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 66.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 99.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.31
08:00 starstreak; cloudflare is protecting the pirate bay tho, so its not all bad
08:01 DaemonFC; https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dunkin-Caramel-Iced-Coffee-Bottle-48-fl-oz/
08:01 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dunkin-Caramel-Iced-Coffee-Bottle-48-fl-oz/ )
08:01 DaemonFC; LOL
08:01 DaemonFC; Ingredients, coffee, skim milk, sugar, cream. Costs $4.88 for a 48 ounce bottle.
08:02 DaemonFC; I could just make some coffee and put half and half and sugar in it and put it in a bottle in the fridge and shake it up later.
08:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yes, some sites don't work with those without JavaScript.
08:03 DaemonFC; Thankfully, that's rare, for now.
08:04 DaemonFC; But mjg59_ , Mister GULAG, hides his blog behind this shit.....just as well so nobody accidentally reads it and goes crazy.
08:04 DaemonFC; "Free Software Guy"
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; hypocrisy is abundant there
08:04 schestowitz[TR]; no need to look for any
08:05 DaemonFC; You can't read his blog unless you run proprietary JavaShit.
08:05 DaemonFC; It won't let you just get at the text, like mine does.
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; with all those "smart" home gadgets
08:05 schestowitz[TR]; not eeven security- and privacy-aware
08:05 DaemonFC; If WordPress does something fucking terrible like this, I'm going to stop and copy everything out to some blog site that doesn't do that.
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; it already does
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; I reject wordpress after 3.9.x
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; which is LTS btw
08:06 schestowitz[TR]; it uses JS
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; and I red somewhere that they phone "home" or send images//referencdes to wordpress.com
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; but did not verify firsthand
08:07 schestowitz[TR]; maybe the faulyt of some plugin
08:10 DaemonFC; mjg59_, "Some might say that we should only consider the technical aspects about what Richard Stallman does." [...] "We need a decentralized Free Software Movement" (easier for Microsoft to attack) [...] "where anyone can feel empowered to speak" [...] "but if you disagree with me, you're full of shit". I'm paraphrasing his anti-RMS post.
08:10 DaemonFC; Anyone can feel free to speak.... UNLESS YOUE DISAGREE WITH ME AND YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT!
08:10 DaemonFC; -Social Justice Dalek
08:15 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> it uses JS
08:15 DaemonFC; Yes, but you can use NoScript or Lynx or ELinks to view my blog.
08:15 DaemonFC; I checked.
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; this is 2022, ryan
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; you should really just download chrome form gulag
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; that's gulagweb now
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; aveeyrthtuing is optomised for it
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; *everything
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; brb
08:19 schestowitz[TR]; done 2 videos, in a hurry...
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 DaemonFC; I pretty much use everything except Chrome.
08:20 DaemonFC; I can't use SeaMonkey as much as I'd otherwise like to.
08:20 DaemonFC; I like the program but I can't figure out how to get NoScript installed into it.
08:21 DaemonFC; It's diverged so much from Firefox that the add-on is incompatible.
08:21 DaemonFC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-russian-malware-hijacks-adfs-to-log-in-as-anyone-in-windows/
08:21 TR Bot; Microsoft: Russian malware hijacks ADFS to log in as anyone in Windows
08:21 DaemonFC; LOL
08:22 DaemonFC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/doordash-discloses-new-data-breach-tied-to-twilio-hackers/
08:22 TR Bot; DoorDash discloses new data breach tied to Twilio hackers
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; I'd rather order food with vocal chord
08:23 DaemonFC; mjg59_ should check his bank account to make sure nobody has logged into his account and stiffed the pizza guy.
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; and carry it with my bipedal thing
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; and then eat
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; no apps and no address given
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; that's how we used to eat
08:23 schestowitz[TR]; many of us still eat this way
08:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, you install restaurant apps on your phone and like Taco Bell.
08:24 DaemonFC; 7 notifications a day on your tray about burritos.
08:24 DaemonFC; :)
08:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I asked a person working there if I could order the "online exclusives" box meal (the $5 one it only shows online) without their app, and they told me I could.
08:25 DaemonFC; They just don't put it on the menu to make you think you have to use the app when you really don't. You just have to know about it.
08:26 DaemonFC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-chrome-extension-internet-download-manager-has-200-000-installs/
08:26 TR Bot; Fake Chrome extension 'Internet Download Manager' has 200,000 installs
08:26 DaemonFC; Chrome users are retarded. It's why they use Chrome.
08:28 DaemonFC; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-terminal-is-now-the-default-terminal-in-windows-11-dev-builds/
08:28 TR Bot; Windows Terminal is now the default terminal in Windows 11 dev builds
08:28 DaemonFC; I don't know why "Command Prompt" is still an option.
08:28 DaemonFC; The DOS compatibility it used to have is gone.
08:28 DaemonFC; There is no 32-bit version of Windows 11.
08:31 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_command_or_file_name
08:31 TR Bot; Bad command or file name - Wikipedia
08:31 DaemonFC; I remember being hit with "Bad command or file name" when I first used DOS and was kind of dumbstruck, even as a child, about how unhelpful that was.
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08:32 DaemonFC; The C64 didn't have very many "commands"
08:33 DaemonFC; The firmware let you use BASIC and save the program to a disk, or run programs from a disk or a tape.
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08:36 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_BASIC
08:36 TR Bot; Commodore BASIC - Wikipedia
08:36 DaemonFC; "The core is based on 6502 Microsoft BASIC, and as such it shares many characteristics with other 6502 BASICs of the time, such as Applesoft BASIC. Commodore licensed BASIC from Microsoft in 1977 on a "pay once, no royalties" basis after Jack Tramiel turned down Bill Gates' offer of a $3 per unit fee, stating, "I'm already married," and would pay no more than $25,000 for a perpetual license.[1]"
08:38 DaemonFC; "Like the original Microsoft BASIC interpreter, Commodore BASIC is slower than native machine code. Test results have shown that copying 16 kilobytes from ROM to RAM takes less than a second in machine code, compared to over a minute in BASIC."
08:38 DaemonFC; LOL
08:40 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/irc-log-260822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/27/irc-log-260822/
08:40 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 26, 2022 | Techrights
08:41 DaemonFC; Well, Walmart raised the price of that break I like. $3.78 per loaf. Was $3.28.
08:41 DaemonFC; *bread
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08:43 DaemonFC; Groceries just go up and up.
08:44 DaemonFC; It's $7 for a single pound of ground beef now.
08:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], iBotta has rebates for Creepy Uncle Bill's Lab Garbage.
08:44 DaemonFC; I'd rather pay $7 a pound for the real stuff.
08:45 DaemonFC; Oh look at the time... :(
08:45 DaemonFC; bbiab
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09:07 TR News; Mandriva and Novell Web Sites Bagged by Hostile Entities, Damaging History | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/www-taken-over-by-scammers/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/27/www-taken-over-by-scammers/
09:07 TR Bot; Mandriva and Novell Web Sites Bagged by Hostile Entities, Damaging History | Techrights
09:08 TR News; (NEW): My favorite open source library for analyzing music files https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/My_favorite_open_source_library_for_analyzing_music_files.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/My_favorite_open_source_library_for_analyzing_music_files.gmi
09:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines My favorite open source library for analyzing music files"
09:08 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Android_Leftovers.gmi
09:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:36 TR News; Webless Daily Driver | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/going-webless/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/27/going-webless/
09:36 TR Bot; Webless Daily Driver | Techrights
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10:01 TR News; Video: Microsoft Working for NSA and FBI | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/microsoft-informant/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/27/microsoft-informant/
10:01 TR Bot; Video: Microsoft Working for NSA and FBI | Techrights
10:05 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
10:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
10:06 TR News; The Web is vanishing rather fast along with facts and data contained in the Web (corporations and news sites going offline); to make matters worse, once-legitimate domains are being taken over by scammers http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/www-taken-over-by-scammers/
10:06 TR News; As the number of Gemini capsules approaches 3,000 (likely by years end) we look at the current state of things, knowing that even YouTube videos, projects inside jails like GitHub and pretty much every news site (owing to NewsWaffle) are now accessible through Gemini clients http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/going-webless/
10:07 TR News; At the time of the video (and the reporting in the media) Microsoft was constantly distracting and outright lying to the media; but the facts remain facts and there is hard (material) evidence to support the accusations http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/microsoft-informant/
10:11 TR News; xkcd: Cloud Swirls https://xkcd.com/2664/
10:11 TR Bot; Cloud Swirls
10:12 TR News; Beware of fake ELM327 OBD-II Bluetooth adapters https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/27/beware-of-fake-elm327-obd-ii-bluetooth-adapters/
10:12 TR Bot; Beware of fake ELM327 OBD-II Bluetooth adapters - CNX Software
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10:14 TR News; Snapchat is the OPPOSITE of privacy. Quit giving people; false expectations and hope. https://www.maketecheasier.com/snapchat-privacy/
10:14 TR Bot; How to Make a Private Story in Snapchat and Other Privacy Tips - Make Tech Easier
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10:19 TR News; Lawrence Lessig - Is Digital Rights Management a Solution or a Problem? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vwtshgPSnOA
10:19 TR Bot; Lawrence Lessig - Is Digital Rights Management a Solution or a Problem? - Invidious
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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10:32 TR News; Delhi HC allows CCI to investigate WhatsApp Privacy Policy https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-dismisses-whatsapps-appeal-to-restrain-cci-from-investigating-its-privacy-policy/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-dismisses-whatsapps-appeal-to-restrain-cci-from-investigating-its-privacy-policy/
10:32 TR Bot; Delhi HC allows CCI to investigate WhatsApp Privacy Policy
10:33 TR News; Absolute64-20220825 released https://www.absolutelinux.org/
10:33 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://www.absolutelinux.org/ )
10:34 TR News; Tape Hiss: The Underlying Noise Quietly Driving Modern Music https://tedium.co/2022/08/26/tape-hiss-noise-history/ Source: Tedium | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tedium.co/2022/08/26/tape-hiss-noise-history/
10:34 TR Bot; Tape Hiss: The Underlying Noise Quietly Driving Modern Music
10:37 TR News; LOL. OSI has outsourced its Web site to proprietary software. ClownFlare.
10:38 TR News; Also, the OSI Web site had been hosted on FreeBSD until a decade ago https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fopensource.org
10:38 TR Bot; Site report for http://opensource.org | Netcraft
10:42 TR News; Linux Foundation has meanwhile outsourced its own site and Linux.com to pantheon. Yes, this company: https://pantheon.io/azure-wordpress
10:42 TR Bot; Azure Hosting on Wordpress | Pantheon
10:48 starstreak; <schestowitz[TR]> you should really just download chrome form gulag
10:48 starstreak; or brave
10:48 schestowitz[TR]; almost same
10:48 schestowitz[TR]; 95% the same
10:48 starstreak; missing the gulag spyware
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; "don't buy coke, get fanta"
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; "it's not American"
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; "it's not Gul;ag"
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; "it's not spying"
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; (it does)
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; the pages you visit spy on yopu
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; and gulag is embedded in many pages
10:49 schestowitz[TR]; e.g. googlefonts.com
10:50 starstreak; oracle is spying on 5 billion people
10:50 schestowitz[TR]; even when JS turned off
10:50 schestowitz[TR]; yes, that was in the news
10:50 starstreak; oracle makes a lot of the software used for tracking people online
10:50 schestowitz[TR]; oracle is a nasty company
10:50 starstreak; it was founded as a CIA project
10:50 schestowitz[TR]; oracle as a company has cia roots
10:50 schestowitz[TR]; doubt it even need to be truly rpoftaible
10:50 schestowitz[TR]; it can be bailed out like Big Banks
10:51 starstreak; a good reason to avoid solaris and java
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11:11 psydruid; a fnk az orosz munksok eltt beszl
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:27 TR News; Surveillance is dumb, too https://staceyoniot.com/why-the-once-exciting-smart-home-is-now-boring/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
11:27 TR Bot; Why the once exciting smart home is now boring - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
11:27 TR News; "Many of us discovered the power of R through RStudio products like their IDE and open source packages." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/why-posit-means-growth-for-the-r-community/ | Source: Rlang
11:27 TR Bot; Posit Means Growth for the R Community | R-bloggers
11:28 TR News; "We have two R communities here in Taiwan: R-Ladies Taipei, which I host, and the Taiwan R User Group." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/r-ladies-taipei-hopes-to-host-hybrid-events-in-the-future/ | Source: Rlang
11:28 TR Bot; Taipei Hopes to Host Hybrid Events in the Future | R-bloggers
11:28 TR News; "This ought to be the job of the party making the software. Not the user" https://borud.no/dev/2022/embedded-tooling/ |
11:28 TR Bot; Bjrn Borud | Please do not use Python for tooling
11:29 TR News; "One of the Python applications you can deploy to RStudio Connect is Flask." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/python-api-deployment-with-rstudio-connect-flask/ | Source: Rlang
11:29 TR Bot; API deployment with RStudio Connect: Flask | R-bloggers
11:30 TR News; "According to the Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology, 32% of individuals who went to the doctor in 2018 reported a gap in information exchange." https://medcitynews.com/2022/08/interoperability-is-the-secret-to-effective-healthcare/ | Source: Med City News
11:30 TR Bot; Interoperability is the secret to effective healthcare - MedCity News
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11:34 TR News; This is a state-sponsored purging of ideas and identities that has no precedent in the United States of America, said John Chrastka https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/17/book-ban-restriction-access-lgbtq/ | Source: The Washington Post
11:34 TR Bot; 'State-sponsored purging of ideas: Students are losing access to books - The Washington Post
11:34 TR News; "Intel has continued investing heavily in its IGC" https://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/55389-chipzilla-goes-all-open-saucy | Source: Fudzilla
11:34 TR Bot; Chipzilla goes all open saucy
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11:56 TR News; PFOA and PFOS https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/epa-designate-forever-chemicals-hazardous-substances-88890819 | Source: ABC
11:56 TR Bot; EPA to designate 'forever chemicals' as hazardous substances - ABC News
11:57 TR News; "Google's ChromeOS isn't available to install on a laptop or desktop like Windows or Linux, but the next best thing is Google's ChromeOS Flex" https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/how-to-turn-an-old-laptop-into-a-chromebook-with-chromeos-flex-for-free/ | Source: CNET
11:57 TR Bot; to Turn an Old Laptop Into a Chromebook With ChromeOS Flex for Free - CNET
11:58 TR News; "Microsoft has started putting more ads in Outlook mobile for iOS and Android in recent months" https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/22/23316102/microsoft-outlook-mobile-ads-ios-android-focused-inbox Microsoft = mass layoffs http://techrights.org/2022/08/10/microsoft-firing-10-percent/
↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/22/23316102/microsoft-outlook-mobile-ads-ios-android-focused-inbox
11:58 TR Bot; Microsoft is putting more ads in Outlook on iOS and Android - The Verge
11:58 TR Bot; Microsoft Firing 10%, Not 1%, of Staff (Microsoft Lies to the Media, Figures One Order of Magnitude Off) | Techrights
11:58 TR News; TikTok https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/08/24/tiktok-testing-nearby-location-feed/ | Source: Digital Music News
11:58 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/08/24/tiktok-testing-nearby-location-feed/ )
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12:03 TR News; "But such a radical transformation in what people drive will also require at least 15 times more vehicle chargers statewide" https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/california-poised-phase-sale-gas-powered-cars-88829195 | Source: ABC
↺ https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/california-poised-phase-sale-gas-powered-cars-88829195
12:03 TR Bot; California phasing out gas vehicles in climate change fight - ABC News
12:03 TR News; "It would also dent common trust in energy market mechanisms." https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22095-lintilae-norway-restricting-electricity-exports-would-play-into-putin-s-hands.html | Source: Helsinki Times
12:03 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/22095-lintilae-norway-restricting-electricity-exports-would-play-into-putin-s-hands.html )
12:04 TR News; "And things are getting worse. U.K. residents will see an 80% increase in their annual household energy bills" https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/britain-80-spike-energy-bills-crisis-worsens-88882917 | Source: ABC
12:04 TR Bot; Britain to see 80% spike in energy bills as crisis deepens - ABC News
12:04 psydruid; > But mjg59_ , Mister GULAG, hides his blog behind this shit.....just as well so nobody accidentally reads it and goes crazy.
12:04 psydruid; > "Free Software Guy"
12:04 psydruid; You have to have boundaries or the evil free software crowd will lynch you
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12:05 TR News; "Zimbabwean authorities must lift the ban on the documentary film President by Danish journalist Camilla Nielsson and not abuse censorship laws" https://cpj.org/2022/08/zimbabwes-censorship-board-bans-danish-documentary-about-opposition-leader/ | Source: CPJ
12:05 TR Bot; Zimbabwes censorship board bans Danish documentary about opposition leader - Committee to Protect Journalists
12:05 TR News; "Today, noyb.eu filed a complaint against Google with the French Data Protection Authority (CNIL)." https://noyb.eu/en/gmail-creates-spam-emails-despite-cjeu-judgment | Source: NYOB
12:05 TR Bot; Gmail creates Spam Emails, despite CJEU judgment
12:06 TR News; "The TikTok video by Aldin.98 shows two youths climbing a flagpole at the Campus of Religions in the Aspern district of Vienna." https://medforth.biz/free-palaestina-migrants-destroy-israeli-flag-in-vienna-and-post-it-on-tiktok/ | Source: Medforth
12:06 TR Bot; Free Palaestina: Migrants destroy Israeli flag in Vienna and post it on TikTok Allah's Willing Executioners
12:09 TR News; "Comics censorship is an American pastime. While censorship has been raging for the last 15 months, book and comic censorship is nothing new." https://bookriot.com/most-banned-comics-since-2000/ | Source: Book Riot
12:09 TR Bot; Here are the Most Challenged Comics and Most Banned Comics Since 2000
12:09 TR News; "any personal bias or non-school materials favoring any particular group" https://www.startribune.com/free-speech-under-fire-in-school-censorship-battles/600200108/ | Source: Star Tribune
12:09 TR Bot; Free speech under fire in school censorship battles
12:10 TR News; "NetBlocks metrics confirm the disruption of YouTube on multiple internet providers in Pakistan on Sunday 21 August 2022." https://netblocks.org/reports/youtube-disrupted-in-pakistan-as-former-pm-khan-streams-speech-XADMq6Bg | Source: Netblocks
12:10 TR Bot; YouTube disrupted in Pakistan as former PM Khan streams speech - NetBlocks
12:10 TR News; "In a cease-and-desist letter obtained by The Post, Tesla objects to a video commercial by anti-Full Self-Driving group the Dawn Project that appears to show the electric vehicles running over mannequins at speeds over 20 mph while allegedly using the technology." https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/08/25/tesla-elon-musk-demo/ | Source: The Washington Post
12:10 TR Bot; Tesla demands video of cars hitting child-size mannequins be taken down - The Washington Post
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12:12 TR News; "The fatwa issued against author Salman Rushdie happened in the waning months of the often-fraught 1980s." https://www.greeleytribune.com/2022/08/21/column-salman-rushdie-and-the-new-censorship/ |
12:12 TR Bot; (Opinion) Bruce Edward Walker: Salman Rushdie and the new censorship Greeley Tribune
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12:18 TR News; "Gates and his Foundation epitomize the idea that the only way to organize public health issues is through the whims of unaccountable billionaires" https://pluralistic.net/2022/08/24/waivers-for-me-not-for-thee/#vaccine-apartheid | Source: CoryDoctorow
12:18 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 24 Aug 2022 Modernas Vaccine Apartheid Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
12:19 techuser; are you double-opinioned?
12:19 TR News; "so, everything is going good. Next thing I know, n***as just ghosted me." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/08/25/voice-of-fn-meka-speaks-out/ | Source: Digital Music News
12:19 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/08/25/voice-of-fn-meka-speaks-out/ )
12:19 techuser; vaccine apartheid, but then saying people should get vaccinated
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:22 TR News; "The rolling release continues fastforwarding daily with new versions of software." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/08/26/mesa-git-gear-more-update-in-tw/ |
12:22 TR Bot; Mesa, Git, Gear, More Update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News
12:28 TR News; "Ready for the weekend? Humble Bundle just put up the Fantastic Journeys: Middle-earth and Beyond bundle and it's actually pretty darn good." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/you-can-get-shadow-of-mordor-shadow-of-war-and-more-in-this-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:28 TR Bot; can get Shadow of Mordor, Shadow of War and more in this bundle | GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR News; "Lutris, the all encompassing game manager for installing games from various stores and services (both Native and with Wine / Proton) has a new version out." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/lutris-adds-amazon-games-integration-plus-flatpak-finally-out-good-for-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR Bot; adds Amazon Games integration, plus Flatpak finally out (good for Steam Deck) | GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR News; "A small but interesting Steam Deck update available in Beta and Preview, which you can try out right now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-deck-has-a-new-client-beta-with-more-steam-input-improvements/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR Bot; Deck has a new Client Beta with more Steam Input improvements (updated) | GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR News; "Diluvian Winds continues looking interesting." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/escape-the-rising-waters-and-take-on-refugees-in-diluvian-winds-new-trailer-up/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR Bot; the rising waters and take on refugees in Diluvian Winds - new trailer up | GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR News; "Overboss looks like a fun idea. Coming from the same team that gave us Legend of Keepers, it has you emerge from the underworld to take over the overworld." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/no-more-dungeons-overtake-the-overworld-tile-by-tile-in-overboss/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:29 TR Bot; more dungeons, overtake the overworld tile by tile in Overboss | GamingOnLinux
12:30 TR News; "The GOG Sale continues on and their next free giveaway has been revealed as the cyberpunk action RPG named Dex." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/get-a-free-copy-of-cyberpunk-rpg-dex-in-the-gog-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:30 TR Bot; a free copy of cyberpunk RPG 'Dex' in The GOG Sale | GamingOnLinux
12:31 TR News; "Valve has just released a rather fancy Steam Deck Booklet to introduce Valve, Steam and the Steam Deck to the new markets across Asia they're about to expand into and it gives some fun details." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-deck-2-is-absolutely-coming-new-booklet-from-valve-confirms/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
12:31 TR Bot; Deck 2 is absolutely coming, new booklet from Valve confirms | GamingOnLinux
12:33 MinceR; https://thecodinglove.com/when-we-tell-the-client-we-have-a-temporary-workaround
12:33 TR Bot; When we tell the client we have a temporary workaround | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
12:33 TR News; "In this article, I demonstrate how the groovy.File class extends and streamlines java.File and simplifies its use." https://opensource.com/article/22/8/groovy-script-java-music | Source: OpenSource.com
12:33 TR Bot; I analyze my music directory with Groovy | Opensource.com
12:37 TR News; Student Loan Debt https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/26/student-loan-debt-american-malignancy-born-ronald-reagan | Source: Common Dreams
12:37 TR Bot; Opinion | Student Loan Debt Is an American Malignancy Born of Ronald Reagan | Thom Hartmann
12:54 TR News; "Following an anti-piracy crackdown in early June, Egyptian authorities have shut down nine additional sports streaming portals." https://torrentfreak.com/egypt-continues-sports-piracy-crackdown-but-the-main-target-remains-220826/ | Source: Torrent Freak
12:54 TR Bot; Continues Sports Piracy Crackdown, But The Main Target Remains * TorrentFreak
12:54 TR News; "Digital creators may choose to distribute their files along with additional data identifying them as the owner" https://torrentfreak.com/metadata-ruling-gives-youtube-timely-boost-in-content-id-lawsuit-220826/ | Source: Torrent Freak
12:54 TR Bot; Ruling Gives YouTube a Timely Boost in Content ID Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
12:56 TR News; FOSS Force Open Source News Quiz (8/26/22) https://fossforce.com/2022/08/foss-force-open-source-news-quiz-8-26-22/ | Source: Unicorn Media
12:56 TR Bot; FOSS Force Open Source News Quiz (8/26/22) - FOSS Force
12:56 TR News; Unauthorized Disclosure: We're Not Here To Grift https://thedissenter.org/subscriber-exclusive-were-not-here-to-grift/ | Source: The Dissenter
12:56 TR Bot; Unauthorized Disclosure: We're Not Here To Grift
12:57 TR News; Julian Assange Files his Perfected Grounds of Appeal https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/julian-assange-files-his-perfected-grounds-of-appeal/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
12:57 TR Bot; PRESS RELEASE: Julian Assange Files his Perfected Grounds of Appeal - Don't Extradite Assange
12:58 TR News; "We have seen about bash for loop, while loop, and until loop in our previous articles with detailed examples." https://ostechnix.com/bash-select-loop/ | Source: OSTechNix
12:58 TR Bot; Select Loop Explained With Examples - OSTechNix
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 117.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 115.70
13:03 TR News; "Aaeon unveiled yesterday their first outdoor autonomous robot controller based on 11th Gen Core/Celeron processors from Intel." https://linuxgizmos.com/aaeon-releases-autonomous-robot-controller-with-hardware-integrated-time-synchronization/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
13:03 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/aaeon-releases-autonomous-robot-controller-with-hardware-integrated-time-synchronization/ )
13:07 TR News; "Open Source Software issue" ... how lawyers badmouth sharing (it means less lawsuits) https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=0c77385d-97cf-4641-8f20-fb4397268a50
13:07 TR Bot; the left, to the left: All the IP you own in the box to the (copy)left: Open Source Software issues in M&A transactions - Lexology
13:07 TR News; Twitter Whistleblower Claims Musk Was Right About Bots; FTC Reviewing Report - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/08/25/1336229 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/08/25/1336229
13:07 TR Bot; Twitter Whistleblower Claims Musk Was Right About Bots; FTC Reviewing Report - SoylentNews
13:08 TR News; Facebook https://fair.org/home/bizarre-decisions-from-facebook-call-into-question-moderation-systems/ | Source: FAIR
13:08 TR Bot; 'Bizarre Decisions From Facebook Call Into Question Moderation Systems' - FAIR
13:10 TR News; Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/26/all-us-are-paying-price-corporate-profits-surge-record-high-2-trillion | Source: Common Dreams
13:10 TR Bot; 'All of Us Are Paying the Price' as Corporate Profits Surge to Record-High $2 Trillion
13:11 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/experience-2
13:11 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Experience
13:13 TR News; Repair cafs https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/repair-cafes-computing-education-hello-world-19/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
13:13 TR Bot; Repair cafs in computing education | Hello World #19 - Raspberry Pi
13:14 TR News; China https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/26/chinas-development-path-indigenous-innovation-and-global-competition/ | Source: Scheerpost
13:14 TR Bot; Development Path: Indigenous Innovation and Global Competition scheerpost.com
13:14 TR News; Police Algorithms https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/26/defund-the-police-algorithms/ | Source: Scheerpost
13:14 TR Bot; the Police Algorithms scheerpost.com
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 TR News; "Scheer Intelligence" https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/26/alan-robock-the-terrifying-research-nuclear-powers-dont-want-you-to-see/ | Source: Scheerpost
13:20 TR Bot; Robock: The Terrifying Research Nuclear Powers Dont Want You to See scheerpost.com
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13:23 TR News; OpenWrt Trademarks https://openwrt.org/trademark?rev=1661591843&do=diff
13:23 TR Bot; [OpenWrt Wiki] OpenWrt Trademarks
13:31 TR News; Once again, Phoronix admits "affiliate links" (i.e. product promotions)
13:33 TR News; The mercenary industry... people make money from killing other people https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/26/catering-tycoon-and-mercenary-group-owner-evgeny-prigozhin-demands-felony-disinformation-charges-against-another-pair-of-journalists | Source: Meduza
13:33 TR Bot; NO TITLE
13:34 TR News; Defend Putin and defend Russia are opposites https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/08/26/true-patriots-are-willing-to-defend-the-motherland-with-arms-in-hand | Source: Meduza
13:34 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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13:55 TR News; Open Access https://creativecommons.org/2022/08/26/a-big-win-for-open-access/ | Source: Creative Commons
13:55 TR Bot; A Big Win for Open Access: United States Mandates All Publicly Funded Research Be Freely Available with No Embargo - Creative Commons
13:55 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080464
13:55 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/sqy5scze9ye91.jpg created on 2022-08-04 23:22:02.414728
13:56 TR News; Theft? https://truthout.org/articles/corporate-profits-surge-to-an-all-time-high-of-2-trillion/ | Source: TruthOut
13:56 TR Bot; Corporate Profits Surge to an All-Time High of $2 Trillion
13:57 TR News; Privacy https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/26/uk-privacy-group-says-police-are-abusing-stop-and-search-powers-to-hassle-protesters/ | Source: Techdirt
13:57 TR Bot; Privacy Group Says Police Are Abusing Stop And Search Powers To Hassle Protesters | Techdirt
13:57 TR News; Twitter will collapse https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/26/delaware-chancery-court-keeps-pushing-back-on-elon-musks-legal-arguments-as-he-mostly-loses-his-discovery-battles/ | Source: Techdirt
13:57 TR Bot; Chancery Court Keeps Pushing Back On Elon Musks Legal Arguments As He (Mostly) Loses His Discovery Battles | Techdirt
13:59 TR News; Microsoft Pelosi making a mess https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/26/biden-pelosi-postmortem-on-taiwan-trip/ | Source: Counter Punch
13:59 TR Bot; Pelosi Postmortem on Taiwan Trip - CounterPunch.org
14:01 TR News; (NEW): Games: Lutris, Steam, GOG, and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Games_Lutris_Steam_GOG_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Games_Lutris_Steam_GOG_and_More.gmi
14:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Lutris, Steam, GOG, and More
14:03 TR News; "The Fed apparently won't stop raising rates until millions more are unemployed" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/26/nuts-critics-react-fed-chair-justifies-coming-pain-working-families | Source: Common Dreams
14:03 TR Bot; 'This Is Nuts': Critics React as Fed Chair Justifies Coming 'Pain' for Working Families
14:04 TR News; "[Jason P], evidently an enjoyer of old reliable laser printing tech, spilled a drink (nitter) onto his Panasonic KX-P5400 SideWriter." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/26/dead-eeprom-dumped-with-help-of-body-diodes/ | Source: Hackaday
14:04 TR Bot; EEPROM Dumped With Help Of Body Diodes | Hackaday
14:04 TR News; WiFi Jamme https://hackaday.com/2022/08/27/diy-video-transmitter-turned-wifi-jammer/ | Source: Hackaday
14:04 TR Bot; Video Transmitter Turned WiFi Jammer | Hackaday
14:06 TR News; Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP)... what about the COVID-19 stuff? Why is that patented? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/26/huge-news-biden-administration-announces-all-publicly-funded-research-should-be-available-for-free-to-the-public/ | Source: Techdirt
14:06 TR Bot; News: Biden Administration Announces All Publicly Funded Research Should Be Available For Free To The Public | Techdirt
14:07 TR News; MoviePass https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/26/moviepass-returns-after-its-disastrous-comical-implosion/ | Source: Techdirt
14:07 TR Bot; Returns After Its Disastrous, Comical Implosion | Techdirt
14:07 TR News; "This week weve been writing about California bill AB 2273, a dangerous bill that has effectively sailed through the California legislature with little pushback" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/26/who-would-benefit-from-californias-age-appropriate-design-code-apparently-porn-companies-privacy-lawyers-and-medical-disinfo-peddlers-but-not-kids/ | Source: Techdirt
14:07 TR Bot; Would Benefit From Californias Age Appropriate Design Code? Apparently Porn Companies, Privacy Lawyers, And Medical Disinfo Peddlers. But Not Kids | Techdirt
14:08 TR News; "It costs me around $1,000 a month to urinate. Thats more than $30 a day. My catheters are just one of the essential medical devices" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/rationing-of-medical-equipment-is-costing-disabled-people-their-lives/ | Source: The Nation
14:08 TR Bot; Rationing of Medical Equipment Is Costing Disabled People Their Lives | The Nation
14:09 TR News; EFF became product endorser... for AOL??? TechCrunch now, Microsoft before... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/techcrunch-launches-lookup-tool-help-android-users-know-if-their-device-was | Source: EFF
14:09 TR Bot; TechCrunch Launches Lookup Tool to Help Android Users Know if Their Device Was Compromised by a Family of Stalkerware Apps | Electronic Frontier Foundation
14:15 TR News; EFF: abortions, sex change, politics etc. Yes, we used to talk about tech, but nowadays we oust our techies, so... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/trans-youths-need-data-sanctuary | Source: EFF
14:15 TR Bot; Trans Youths Need Data Sanctuary | Electronic Frontier Foundation
14:16 TR News; EFF: not a word about Assange (anymore), lots about abortion. Everyone has a constitutional right of the First Amendment to say things, to speak, McMaster said, according to The State (Columbia, SC). https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/victory-south-carolina-will-not-advance-bill-banned-speaking-about-abortions EFF also libels RMS http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/
14:16 TR Bot; Victory! South Carolina Will Not Advance Bill That Banned Speaking About Abortions Online | Electronic Frontier Foundation
14:16 TR Bot; The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights
14:17 TR News; Churches that promote political stuff can be denied tax exemptions. Maybe Mozilla, Linux Foundation and EFF should also be denies their IRS status at this point.
14:19 TR News; EFF staying silent on Assange after Barlow's death (EFF founder, friend of Assange, they even cofounded 'FOTPF'?) IS in fact taking a stance. It's an anti-Assange stance.
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 TR News; This summer I'm trying to convince EFF that the way they ignore EPO corruption is in fact not excusable. They do lots of work on copyrights in the EU and patents in the US. Why turn a blind eye to the most corrupt org???
14:21 TR News; "Making fermentation work for us is one of the original hacks that allowed humans to make food last longer, and festivities more interesting." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/26/make-your-own-vinegar/ | Source: Hackaday
14:21 TR Bot; Your Own Vinegar | Hackaday
14:22 TR News; Water Monitor Measures The Cost Of Your Shower https://hackaday.com/2022/08/26/water-monitor-measures-the-cost-of-your-shower-thinking-time/ | Source: Hackaday
14:22 TR Bot; Monitor Measures The Cost Of Your Shower Thinking Time | Hackaday
14:22 TR News; "Whilst the Raspberry Pi RP2040 is quite a capable little chip, on the whole its nothing really special compared to the big brand offerings." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/26/bit-banged-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi-pico/ | Source: Hackaday
14:22 TR Bot; Ethernet On The Raspberry Pi Pico | Hackaday
14:23 TR News; Hackaday Podcast https://hackaday.com/2022/08/26/hackaday-podcast-183-stowaway-science-cold-basements-and-warm-beers/ | Source: Hackaday
14:23 TR Bot; Podcast 183: Stowaway Science, Cold Basements, And Warm Beers | Hackaday
14:24 TR News; Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/26/lapd-adopts-some-weak-surveillance-tech-reforms-that-will-finally-allow-public-input/ | Source: Techdirt
14:24 TR Bot; Adopts Some (Weak) Surveillance Tech Reforms That Will Finally Allow Public Input | Techdirt
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14:25 TR News; Strip Club... not stripped off rights https://truthout.org/articles/strip-club-dancers-plan-to-hold-union-elections-as-unionization-wave-spreads/ | Source: TruthOut
14:25 TR Bot; Strip Club Dancers Plan to Hold Union Elections as Unionization Wave Spreads
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14:25 TR News; Debt https://truthout.org/articles/mitch-mcconnells-condemnation-of-debt-relief-is-dripping-with-hypocrisy/ | Source: TruthOut
14:25 TR Bot; Mitch McConnell's Condemnation of Debt Relief Is Dripping With Hypocrisy
14:26 TR News; "I came to adult at the end of the one, forty year long, period in the history of Western civilisation when there was a reduction in the chasm between the rich and ordinary people." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/08/the-great-clutching-at-pearls/ | Source: Craig Murray
14:26 TR Bot; The Great Clutching at Pearls - Craig Murray
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14:35 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22081517
14:35 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/n78uz6bwf1h91.jpg created on 2022-08-15 07:54:07.845537
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14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 52.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 136.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.58
14:59 TR News; FTI Consulting also helps EPO criminals cover up their crimes https://www.desmog.com/2022/08/26/fti-consulting-fossil-fuels-work-climate-disinformation-house-natural-resources-subpoena/ | Source: DeSmog
14:59 TR Bot; Committee Poised for Potential Subpoena of PR Firm for Climate Disinformation - DeSmog
14:59 TR News; 3D Printing https://hackaday.com/2022/08/26/a-guide-to-3d-printing-model-aircraft-wings/ | Source: Hackaday
14:59 TR Bot; Guide To 3D Printing Model Aircraft Wings | Hackaday
15:00 TR News; Those patents should not exist in the first place! https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/26/moderna-slammed-grotesque-lawsuit-against-pfizer-over-covid-19-vaccine-patents | Source: Common Dreams
15:00 TR Bot; Moderna Slammed for 'Grotesque' Lawsuit Against Pfizer Over Covid-19 Vaccine Patents
15:10 TR News; (NEW): Shows: LHS, Women In Linux, Hackaday Podcast, and BSD Now https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Shows_LHS_Women_In_Linux_Hackaday_Podcast_and_BSD_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Shows_LHS_Women_In_Linux_Hackaday_Podcast_and_BSD_Now.gmi
15:11 TR News; (NEW): Mozilla and the Web https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Mozilla_and_the_Web.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Mozilla_and_the_Web.gmi
15:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows: LHS, Women In Linux, Hackaday Podcast, and BSD Now"
15:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mozilla and the Web
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15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:21 TR News; (NEW): KDE neon 20220714 Quick overview https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/KDE_neon_20220714_Quick_overview.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/KDE_neon_20220714_Quick_overview.gmi
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15:22 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
15:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
15:22 TR News; (NEW): An Installation And First Look At Mabox Linux 22.08 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/An_Installation_And_First_Look_At_Mabox_Linux_22_08.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/An_Installation_And_First_Look_At_Mabox_Linux_22_08.gmi
15:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines An Installation And First Look At Mabox Linux 22.08
15:27 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080441
15:27 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/3echvwmnq2f91.jpg created on 2022-08-04 15:24:48.084400
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15:49 TR News; OpenMP: Support reverse offload (middle end part) https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commit;h=d6621a2f3176dd6a593d4f5fa7f85db0234b40d2
15:49 TR Bot; Git - gcc.git/commit
15:49 TR News; (NEW): Linux and BSD Improvements: Intel and EFI https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_and_BSD_Improvements_Intel_and_EFI.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_and_BSD_Improvements_Intel_and_EFI.gmi
15:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux and BSD Improvements: Intel and EFI
15:52 TR News; The Travis separation a year later | daniel.haxx.se https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/08/27/the-travis-separation-a-year-later/ Curl moving to Microsoft proprietary software, which cannot be trusted http://techrights.org/2022/07/22/github-network-effect-curl/
15:52 TR Bot; Travis separation a year later | daniel.haxx.se
15:52 TR Bot; Microsoft: Stay in Our Proprietary Prison (GitHub) and Attract Other People to This Prison, Well Give You Gifts | Techrights
15:54 TR News; We need more sub-languages https://informatique-libre.be/swilmet/blog/2022-08-27-we-need-more-sub-languages.html
15:54 TR Bot; We need more sub-languages :: Sbastien Wilmet's blog
15:57 TR News; C vs Python: The Key Differences You Must Know https://www.ubuntupit.com/c-vs-python-the-key-differences/ Source: Ubuntu Pit | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/c-vs-python-the-key-differences/
15:57 TR Bot; C vs Python: The Key Differences You Must Know
15:57 TR News; EGIKNRY Wordo: RACES gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-27.gmi
16:04 TR News; SSHd now uses socket-based activation (Ubuntu 22.10 and later) https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/sshd-now-uses-socket-based-activation-ubuntu-22-10-and-later/30189/2
16:04 TR Bot; SSHd now uses socket-based activation (Ubuntu 22.10 and later) - Server - Ubuntu Community Hub
16:06 TR News; (NEW): Community Calamares https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Community_Calamares.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Community_Calamares.gmi
16:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Community Calamares
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16:15 TR News; "Join the FSF and friends on Friday, September 02, from 12:00 to 15:00 EDT (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) to help improve the Free Software Directory." https://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20220902-irc
16:15 TR Bot; Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, September 02, starting at 12:00 EDT (16:00 UTC) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
16:15 TR News; (NEW): Converting Laptops to ChromeOS and So-called 'Chromebooks' https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Converting_Laptops_to_ChromeOS_and_So_called_Chromebooks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Converting_Laptops_to_ChromeOS_and_So_called_Chromebooks.gmi
16:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines Converting Laptops to ChromeOS and So-called 'Chromebooks'
16:17 TR News; Publicly Available RDP, What Could Go Wrong?! (Enterprise Linux Security Episode 39) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gI5iNwnUHpQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/gI5iNwnUHpQ "What happens when you open up the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) to the public Internet?"
16:17 TR Bot; Publicly Available RDP, What Could Go Wrong?! (Enterprise Linux Security Episode 39) - Invidious
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:23 TR News; 24 ways to check the status of files using if commands on Linux | Network World https://www.networkworld.com/article/3670850/24-ways-to-check-the-status-of-files-using-if-commands-on-linux.html Source: Network World | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.networkworld.com/article/3670850/24-ways-to-check-the-status-of-files-using-if-commands-on-linux.html
16:23 TR Bot; 24 ways to check the status of files using if commands on Linux | Network World
16:25 TR News; "The Wujian 600 chip development platform will help developers build systems-on-chip to support edge applications such as home robots, medical imaging and video conferencing" https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252524139/Alibaba-Cloud-unveils-RISC-V-chip-development-platform
16:25 TR Bot; Alibaba Cloud unveils RISC-V chip development platform
16:25 TR News; "Vector database vendor Zilliz on Wednesday said it raised $60 million in a series B round of funding to advance the open source Milvus platform." https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatamanagement/news/252524175/Zilliz-raises-60M-for-open-source-Milvus-vector-database
16:25 TR Bot; Zilliz raises $60M for open source Milvus vector database
16:27 TR News; "Kaspersky researchers have shared new intelligence on two emergent cyber criminal groups that have adapted their ransomwares to target different operating systems at the same time" https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252524203/Adaptive-RedAlert-Monster-ransomwares-go-cross-platform
16:27 TR Bot; Adaptive RedAlert, Monster ransomwares go cross-platform
16:30 TR News; (NEW): Kubernetes v1.25: Combiner (UPDATEDx2) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kubernetes_v1_25_Combiner.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/24/Kubernetes_v1_25_Combiner.gmi
16:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kubernetes v1.25: Combiner (UPDATEDx2)
16:34 TR News; In Forbes, no article about "Linux" in nearly 4 weeks. That site is dying.
16:36 TR News; Zemlin and the Banksters <3 diploma mills https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4055345/linux-foundation-world-bank-launch-free-quantum-computing-training-course
16:36 TR Bot; Linux Foundation and World Bank launch free quantum computing training course
16:56 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080425
16:56 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/oaonjw5guwe91.jpg created on 2022-08-04 09:36:07.653060
16:57 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
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16:58 TR News; "I've gotten into the habit of pulling small berries off the branches of overhanging trees while I walk my dog and throwing them onto random lawns" gemini://gem.saayaa.space/gemlog/2022-08-27-cell-everywhere.gmi
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 97.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 111.61
16:59 TR News; HN: tool beeps when data is sent to Google. Spoiler: constant beeping. gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-27.google.gmi
17:18 TR News; (NEW): Linux Foundation Diploma Mills and Proprietary Disasters https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_Foundation_Diploma_Mills_and_Proprietary_Disasters.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_Foundation_Diploma_Mills_and_Proprietary_Disasters.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Foundation Diploma Mills and Proprietary Disasters
17:18 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
17:18 TR News; (NEW): Open Access and Interoperability Advanced https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Open_Access_and_Interoperability_Advanced.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Open_Access_and_Interoperability_Advanced.gmi
17:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Access and Interoperability Advanced"
17:19 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre Software: Zilliz, FOSS Force Open Source News Quiz, and FSF https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Free_Libre_Software_Zilliz_FOSS_Force_Open_Source_News_Quiz_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Free_Libre_Software_Zilliz_FOSS_Force_Open_Source_News_Quiz_and.gmi
17:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre Software: Zilliz, FOSS Force Open Source News Quiz, and FSF
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:26 TR News; (NEW): New Release of Absolute Linux and Issue in EndeavourOS https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/New_Release_of_Absolute_Linux_and_Issue_in_EndeavourOS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/New_Release_of_Absolute_Linux_and_Issue_in_EndeavourOS.gmi
17:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines New Release of Absolute Linux and Issue in EndeavourOS
17:31 TR News; (NEW): Raspberry Pi Pico, Raspberry Pi in Education, and Various Projects With Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W or Better https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Raspberry_Pi_Pico_Raspberry_Pi_in_Education_and_Various_Project.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Raspberry_Pi_Pico_Raspberry_Pi_in_Education_and_Various_Project.gmi
17:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Raspberry Pi Pico, Raspberry Pi in Education, and Various Projects With Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W or Better
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17:40 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_leftovers.gmi
17:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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17:43 TR News; Links 27/08/2022: A Look Ahead at Linux 6.1 and Calamare as Community Work | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/27/calamare-as-community-work/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/27/calamare-as-community-work/
17:43 TR Bot; Links 27/08/2022: A Look Ahead at Linux 6.1 and Calamare as Community Work | Techrights
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18:06 TR News; "At least unlike proprietary driver blobs, firmware blobs are platform agnostic, so you wouldn't need one for each architecture / kernel you run." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1342725-debian-begins-a-general-resolution-to-decide-what-to-do-with-non-free-firmware
18:06 TR Bot; Begins A General Resolution To Decide What To Do With Non-Free Firmware - Phoronix Forums
18:07 TR News; Caoln McNamara: zero coverity defects for hunspell http://caolanm.blogspot.com/2022/08/zero-coverity-defects-for-hunspell.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//caolanm.blogspot.com/2022/08/zero-coverity-defects-for-hunspell.html
18:07 TR Bot; Caoln McNamara: zero coverity defects for hunspell
18:07 TR News; (NEW): GIMP 2.99.12Released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/GIMP_2_99_12_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/GIMP_2_99_12_Released.gmi
18:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines GIMP 2.99.12Released
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:51 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1563490255457488899
18:51 TR Bot; (en) (@CITeam_en): "In the past few months, we and other analyst have watched the formation and training of Russia's 3rd Army Corps, first publicly reported by Ukrainian intelligence back in June. Now it is being deployed to the Ukrainian border. 1/5 https://te.legra.ph/Russia-transfers-recently-created-3rd-Army-Corps-to-the-front-08-27"|nitter.it
↺ https://te.legra.ph/Russia-transfers-recently-created-3rd-Army-Corps-to-the-front-08-27"|nitter.it
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.60 k/sec., IPFS upstream 143.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 130.25
19:01 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r
19:01 starstreak; 5.19.4-arch1-1
19:05 souseksi; starstreak: hostname is funny.
19:06 starstreak; :)
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:29 s98259; starstreak: lol
19:32 souseksi; s98259: Hello. I listened to all the songs in your profile. I liked your music very much. My favourite ones are "Earth and Wind", "Trancing through Wonderland" and "My House Is Your House".
19:34 souseksi; s98259: I wish you success if you plan to continue composing music. I will be following updates on SoundCloud.
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20:02 techuser; hi
20:02 techuser; s98259: brought Luis64_gamer back
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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20:35 schestowitz[TR]; hi Luis64_gamer
20:36 TR News; "The fascinating story behind the biggest cybersecurity threats like Stuxnet, NotPetya"... that's Microsoft Windows! gemini://tobykurien.com/microblog.gmi
20:37 TR News; Re: How many computers do you have? (with thoughts on setup wizards) gemini://gemini.leafstorm.org/en/gemlog/2022-08-27-computers.gmi
20:38 s98259; techuser: Oh nice.
20:38 s98259; Welcome back, Luis64_gamer :3
20:38 TR News; "I am proud to announce that I've released Gemtexter version `1.1.0`. What is Gemtexter? It's my static site generator written in GNU Bash..." gemini://foo.zone/gemfeed/2022-08-27-gemtexter-1.1.0-lets-gemtext-again.gmi
20:39 TR News; "Neil deGrasse Tyson claims that the most astounding fact about the universe is the knowledge, that the atoms that make up the human body were once in the stars. Galaxies. These atoms are traceable to the very beginnings of all and everything." gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/08/27-could-have-been.gmi
20:41 TR News; "1) It is part of the self-development activity to write regularly. Especially some sort of ordered thoughts, rather than social-media likes, emojis and links." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
20:41 techuser; schestowitz[TR]: took a while to bring Luis64_gamer back. He complains about bad tech in PM to me.
20:42 techuser; like auto-updates, in Chrome and in Windows
20:42 techuser; or slowing down with each update in Minecraft
20:43 Luis64_gamer; or slowing down with each update in Minecraft > it was something that Discord likes to crash when high memory programs are running
20:43 Luis64_gamer; not only minecraft
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; they say, buy a new computer
20:44 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
20:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
20:51 TR News; The laptop I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT: Slimbook Executive 16 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DTei_ivtONA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/DTei_ivtONA
20:51 TR Bot; The laptop I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT: Slimbook Executive 16 - Invidious
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20:53 TR News; 3 Best Ways to Securely Wipe Disk in Linux Using Command Line https://linuxiac.com/best-ways-to-securely-erase-disk-in-linux/ Source: Linuxiac | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxiac.com/best-ways-to-securely-erase-disk-in-linux/
20:53 TR Bot; 3 Best Ways to Securely Wipe Disk in Linux Using Command Line
20:57 TR News; (NEW): Why Linux Smartphones Aren't As Popular As They Should Be https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Why_Linux_Smartphones_Aren_t_As_Popular_As_They_Should_Be.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Why_Linux_Smartphones_Aren_t_As_Popular_As_They_Should_Be.gmi
20:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Why Linux Smartphones Aren't As Popular As They Should Be
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 122.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 129.13
21:02 psydroid2; back in the day programs would crash due to "general protection faults" and other errors not necessarily in the applications, but in the operating system itself
21:03 TR News; UPDATE: Intel's Arc GPUs Can Run On Linux, But Requires Some Effort - Techgage https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Linux_and_BSD_Improvements_Intel_and_EFI.shtml
21:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux and BSD Improvements: Intel and EFI (UPDATED)
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; psydroid2: specifically Windows
21:03 psydroid2; I think DaemonFC knows more about that, as I stopped using Windows as a main operating system in 2002
21:03 schestowitz[TR]; that's quite early
21:04 psydroid2; I pretty much only experienced that on Windows
21:04 psydroid2; yes, I had been using GNU/Linux and Windows for 5 years by then
21:04 psydroid2; just not at home until I bought a SUSE 7.0 box
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; not to say gnu/linux is pperfect
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; but we fix it
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; and can fix it
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; and have incentive to fdix it
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft: you are doing it wrong. buy the LATEST version.
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21:05 psydroid2; and then it took me a year and a half to switch everything over as KDE matured
21:05 *s98259 dances to her music productions
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: Luis is here
21:05 psydroid2; this is why I don't have any dependencies on Windows
21:05 DaemonFC; The fuck....
21:05 psydroid2; I have no idea what Windows software I should be missing out on
21:05 s98259; GNU/Linux <3
21:05 s98259; Since 2005
21:06 DaemonFC; Different Luis?
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; Luis Lane ;-)
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; Luis64_gamer:
21:06 starstreak; SystemD/Gnome/GNU/Linux <3
21:06 s98259; i3wm here
21:06 s98259; :3
21:06 starstreak; wayland master race
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; you can't say master, that's raysist
21:07 s98259; Do I really need to race to a new piece of software? o.O
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; race condition
21:09 *XRevan86 can't be bothered to race for Wayland.
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; wayland means lots of things break
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; things that used to work
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; also see: systemd, pulseaudio..
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; the net benefit of wayland seems small
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; except, it's DIFFERERNT
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; and "modern"
21:10 starstreak; systemd, wayland with sway uses about 330mb ram
21:10 starstreak; wayland is a lot more lightweight than xorg
21:11 TR News; "Sysadmin trick of the day if a server is down and you don't know when it will be back up, use ping -a to hear when it comes back up. The -a flag enables audio alert." https://catonmat.net/ping-a
21:11 TR Bot; Make ping audible
21:12 TR News; "Let's start by navigating the terminal." https://jamesg.blog/2022/08/17/terminal-shortcuts/
21:12 TR Bot; TIL: Terminal shortcuts | James' Coffee Blog
21:12 TR News; "Create a file called paddle.go. Our paddle will be similar to our ball in that it will need an X and a Y position, and also a speed. Well only be moving the paddles along the Y axis so for now well just set up a Yspeed." https://earthly.dev/blog/pong-part2/
21:12 TR Bot; Building Pong in Your Terminal: Part Two - Earthly Blog
21:13 TR News; "Shekhar Kirani treats talented engineers like a rare dog breed hes learned to spot. This is obviously wrong, but the subject of the 10x engineer wont go away. So lets dissect this concept a little bit, see when it makes sense, when it doesnt, and maybe arrive at a better way to frame things." https://earthly.dev/blog/stop-10x-developer/
21:13 TR Bot; Stop saying 10x developer - Earthly Blog
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; <starstreak> systemd, wayland with sway uses about 330mb ram
21:13 schestowitz[TR]; that's a lot
21:14 starstreak; no its not lol
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; it is
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; compared to what?
21:14 starstreak; when i boot up gnome its using about 2GB
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; you can do upstarts+x+openbox for a lot less
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; plasma5 can be aboout 100mb
21:15 starstreak; yeah and i could probably run icewm too
21:15 starstreak; but i want something usable
21:15 schestowitz[TR]; *upstart
21:15 techuser; since Luis64_gamer is into videogames, I'm telling him to try Windows 10 LTSB/LTSC for now
21:15 techuser; maybe it is at least less bloated
21:16 starstreak; mind you, the 2GB includes keybase which uses a lot of ram too
21:17 TR News; Talk recordings and workshop materials from rstudio::conf(2022) https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/talk-recordings-and-workshop-materials-from-rstudioconf2022/
21:17 TR Bot; recordings and workshop materials from rstudio::conf(2022) | R-bloggers
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; keybase is owned by zoom
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; nobody should touch it anymolre
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; I used to use it a little
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; not sure why I bothered
21:17 schestowitz[TR]; zoom works for fbi and others
21:17 starstreak; who else is going to give me 100gb of e2e storage
21:18 starstreak; for free
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; how do you know it is even secure?
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; and who funds the storage?
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; why?
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; how long for?
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; what conditions?>
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; get yourself an external drive
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; it's cheap
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; and you can encrypt it
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; even buy two
21:18 schestowitz[TR]; ot two portable pluggable storage sticks
21:18 starstreak; and that will sync with my phone?
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; phone is anti-encryuption
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; if you want private, you won't usem one
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; they are even worse than laptops/desktops
21:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Want to hear something funny?
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://wikileaks.org/vault7/
21:19 TR Bot; WikiLeaks - Vault 7: Projects
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; https://wikileaks.org/vault8/
21:19 TR Bot; WikiLeaks - Vault 8
21:19 DaemonFC; My phone responds to "OK GULAG".
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; I thought in the kitchen today
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; regiretse gulagtube.,com
21:19 starstreak; what do i do if my house burns down
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; or googletube.com
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; install invidious on it
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; that'd be funny
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; the URLs
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; goolagtube
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; gulagfilmStal.in
21:20 XFaCE; starstreak: I recommend you contact an insurance agent for that information. They may have advice for such a situation.
21:21 starstreak; hey xface, how is windows?
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; if your house can burn down, make one backup disk and give to a friend
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; you can encrypt it
21:21 starstreak; i have no friends
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; one of my friends cannot deal with ext
21:21 MinceR; 27 221550 < techuser> maybe it is at least less bloated
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; so that is enough to keep him from getting nosey
21:21 MinceR; and maybe the games won't run on it :>
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; or give no cable for the drive
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; the issue with encrypted drive is bit flipping
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; you can be denied access to the whole disk because oif some bad sector
21:22 DaemonFC; I should really learn to do what my mom said, in this particular case. "If someone is trying to argue with you, just stop responding. It's impossible to continue arguing with someone who won't argue back.".
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; after years of storage
21:22 DaemonFC; Good point. Very rare from her.
21:23 XFaCE; starstreak: it's a beautiful day outside through the windows, you may want to visit outside sometime.
21:23 DaemonFC; As soon as you stop responding, the other person eventually burns themselves out pretty quickly and shuts up.
21:23 starstreak; XFaCE, rrrrrrrrrreptoidz
21:23 starstreak; XFaCE, I meant how is Microsoft Windows?
21:24 starstreak; are you running Gentoo or OpenBSD yet?
21:24 DaemonFC; Some people just like to argue, but if you keep feeding into it, the odds of something really stupid happen grow exponentially.
21:24 XFaCE; Check a reputable CNET rating I guess. Seriously though, outside is a wonderful place. Can't recommend enough.
21:24 DaemonFC; If you quit responding to them, they go in the other room and sulk, if you keep it going, they end up throwing plates.
21:24 starstreak; outside has people :/
21:25 TR News; Stop calling everything HEY HI. It's how patent extremists mislead clueless judges. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/only-humans-not-ai-qualify-as-inventors-federal-circuit-rules
↺ https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/only-humans-not-ai-qualify-as-inventors-federal-circuit-rules
21:25 TR Bot; NO TITLE
21:25 DaemonFC; Eventually things can get so bad that there's police.
21:25 DaemonFC; Did you really need THAT in your day? Nope. Nobody does.
21:25 DaemonFC; But when people are mad, they get stupid. They'll cut off their nose to spite their own face.
21:26 s98259; Dude you're really depressing... :/
21:26 s98259; Does nothing else happen in your life? Wow damn wtf man!
21:26 s98259; DaemonFC: Do you have any responsibilities in life?
21:26 DaemonFC; The neighbors are arguing again.
21:26 s98259; Do you know what life is?
21:27 techuser; some biological thing
21:27 DaemonFC; I have to listen to it because of course I do. The landlord moved these people in last month and they've been worse than the people who were only smoking the nasty cigars.
21:27 techuser; not clearly defined afaik
21:27 s98259; Sorry what, techuser?
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; <s98259> Do you know what life is?
21:27 DaemonFC; Because these people do that AND they're throwing each other around and screaming at all hours.
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; baby don'\t hurt me
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; baby don'\t hurt me, no mo'...
21:27 techuser; iirc there is no exact definition of life
21:27 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: rofl :D
21:27 techuser; biology studies life
21:27 DaemonFC; I'd call the cops except not my problem. Roy's right.
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
21:28 DaemonFC; If you call the cops, they're as dangerous to you as they are to anyone else when they arrive.
21:28 TR Bot; Haddaway - What Is Love [Official] - Invidious
21:28 mjg59_; Biology studies things that are not alive
21:28 techuser; cells are alive
21:28 mjg59_; Viruses aren't
21:28 techuser; parts of cells afaik aren't too
21:29 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Your "post-RMS post" was very funny. Gloating and taking a victory lap. Too soon, really. Guess who's back. Nananananananananana! Back again! Stallman's back, tell your Microsoft friends. Guess who's back guess who's back guess who's back......
21:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://stallman.org/talks.html
21:29 TR Bot; Talks - Richard Stallman
21:29 DaemonFC; Anyway, I loved the part about a participatory democracy where anyone can speak besides those who agree with you. And how those people are full of shit.
21:29 DaemonFC; Reminds me of the Palpatine "I love democracy!" meme.
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=01_WK5AXpYQ
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; 3 weeks ago
21:30 TR Bot; Confrence Richard STALLMAN - Congrs ADULLACT 2022 - Invidious
21:30 DaemonFC; *disagree
21:30 DaemonFC; Anyway, that's like, totally not how democratic institutions work.
21:30 DaemonFC; Democracy is ugly, it's horrible, it's awful.
21:30 DaemonFC; It's the worst idea ever, except for the other systems.
21:31 TR News; How to move from capitalism to Co-Op - neritam <p><img src="/Features/" class="feature" align="left" width="" height="" alt="" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Neritam" href="https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/08/24/how-to-move-from-capitalism-to-co-op/">Read on</a>
21:31 TR Bot; How to move from capitalism to Co-Op neritam
21:31 DaemonFC; The United States is not a democracy. It's something far, far, worse, which has institutions that pretend to be somewhat democratic, in order to increase buy-in from people who think they have an influence on the political environment.
21:32 DaemonFC; But that's all it is. Has it been even worse than this before? SURE!
21:32 DaemonFC; The 3/5ths Compromise, the lack of women and people between 18-21 being able to vote.
21:32 DaemonFC; But incremental patch jobs don't fit a system that was this badly designed.
21:32 TR News; "In my lifetime the outputs of organized religion have been mostly war, sexual abuse, and political support for venal rightist hypocrites." https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/08/24/On-Faith
21:32 TR Bot; ongoing by Tim Bray On Faith
21:33 DaemonFC; This is rather like Microsoft Windows, which started out being designed very wrong with all sorts of ugly hacks.
21:33 DaemonFC; And then they had to fix those hacks by coming up with some sort of system that bypassed them, doing something else that ended up being terrible.
21:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], These cumulative updates for Windows are, I think, why people are rushing towards the exits, more than anything else.
21:34 DaemonFC; They're realizing that there's no way to control the onslaught of broken and high-risk updates anymore.
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; true
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; but we need to speed that up
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; in some countries, sadly, they move to "phones"
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; it's a regression
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; but..
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; based on Linux
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; it's improving over Windows in a few ways
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; but a step back in many other ways
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; and they don't use their PCs till the end
21:35 s98259; People won't turn to GNU/Linux, they're to fucked in the membrane to even learn the system.
21:35 DaemonFC; Phones are even worse than Windows in some ways, because it's easier to shove spyware in an "app" and with the iPhone at least, no way for the user to run a corrected version of that app.
21:35 DaemonFC; Or sometimes even a certain KIND of app, like bittorrent.
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; s98259: I don't think that's true
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; they don't need to learn the system
21:36 s98259; schestowitz[TR]: You don't think what is true?
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; but software on it
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; like firefox or kate
21:36 s98259; Oh
21:36 s98259; That
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; or lyx, kile..
21:36 s98259; So that's called "jailing"
21:36 schestowitz[TR]; libreoffice
21:36 DaemonFC; Android could be a decent PC operating system with some minor work, but nobody wants it to be one.
21:36 techuser; s98259: it doesn't matter. If they do, it is already shit.
21:36 s98259; Force them into an environment that molly coddles them
21:36 techuser; like systemd
21:36 s98259; and doesn't show them what the system is really about...
21:37 s98259; This is why I personally don't like mobile OSes because they do that very thing, jail you to a UI.
21:37 DaemonFC; systemd is like the scene where the blob is attacking the movie theater and people are running and screaming as it absorbs everything and grows bigger and bigger and bigger.
21:37 techuser; there is no hope in computing
21:37 s98259; DaemonFC: I'm happy without it.
21:37 DaemonFC; Eventually at the end of the movie, they give up trying to kill it and end up flash freezing it and dumping it at the North Pole.
21:38 TR News; The 1948 precursor to the hard disk - by Bryan Lunduke https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-1948-precursor-to-the-hard-disk Source: Bryan Lunduke | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lunduke.substack.com/p/the-1948-precursor-to-the-hard-disk
21:38 TR Bot; The 1948 precursor to the hard disk - by Bryan Lunduke
21:38 s98259; techuser: Nobody says you got to use systemd...
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; btw, android has faaar more users than Windows now
21:38 s98259; OpenRC is maintained.
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; so the target of campaigning changed
21:38 s98259; And there are others.
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; or activism
21:38 techuser; ask tech_exorcist on IKTeam
21:38 s98259; It's your choice dude.
21:38 techuser; he says for some reasons he depends on systemd for something
21:38 s98259; Support what you think is right man.
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; we use openrc in the new servers
21:39 techuser; and end up supporting capitalism cancer that kills me
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; many bloated things assume systemd
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; but usually you don't need those things
21:39 DaemonFC; What would make more sense than the second movie obviously, would be to keep it at the North Pole and set up a disposal unit that lops off frozen pieces of The Blob and incinerates the pieces until there's no more pieces.
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; today I work on a one-file front page for tuxmachines
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; one single file with the css inside it
21:39 XRevan86; "systemd is like the scene where the blob is attacking the movie theater and people are running and screaming as it absorbs everything and grows bigger and bigger and bigger." <- All hail Lord Smooze!
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; php, grabs what it needs locally
21:40 DaemonFC; We don't know that wouldn't work. It survived re-entry into Earth's atmosphere, but it was protected by a meteorite that might have acted as a heat shield.
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; "we are groot"
21:41 TR News; Bulldozing trust: when the big build back tramples on communities and wildlife - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/covid-recovery-projects-endanger-animals-and-environment/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/covid-recovery-projects-endanger-animals-and-environment/
21:41 TR Bot; Bulldozing trust: when the big build back tramples on communities and wildlife - Michael West
21:41 DaemonFC; That was one of my favorite movies as a kid. The 1958 Blob.
21:43 starstreak; cowabanga
21:43 TR News; "Heroku is a platform-as-a-service that lets you push git repositories to the cloud and then magically get a URL to that application running somewhere. This "Heroku magic" was catalytic to my career." https://xeiaso.net/blog/rip-heroku
21:43 TR Bot; The Legacy of Heroku's Free Tier - Xe
21:44 DaemonFC; They remade the blob in the 80s, and that one wasn't bad.
21:44 DaemonFC; They're talking about doing it AGAIN, because they've run out of ideas anyway.
21:45 DaemonFC; With the mjg59_ Social Justice Daleks running Hollywood, and the Chinese censors, and the product placements and shit they'll put in it now, they'll ruin it forever.
21:45 DaemonFC; They'll do it up like Transformers, where they completely sucked out the 80s animation coolness out of it, right?
21:46 DaemonFC; And they'll end up corpse humping it and having XBOX consoles running around.
21:46 DaemonFC; Transformers was really where I gave up, you know, the "I like movies." thing. It wasn't just a shark jump, it was THE shark jump.
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/manchester-city-4-2-crystal-palace-pep-guardiola-reaction-63797214
21:48 TR Bot; Guardiola: Haaland was born to score goals
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; (lots of cheering here today) ot
21:48 s98259; :3
21:48 DaemonFC; You'll notice when you look back at movies up through the early 2000s, it wasn't some ditzy blond on a cell phone and then they started having all of these really bad movies with Adam Sandler and Rob Schneider that were completely unwatchable, forgettable, and so bad that Sony Pictures had to make up a fake movie critic to review their own movies.
21:48 s98259; <3
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> And they'll end up corpse humping it and having XBOX consoles running around.
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; xbox had a massive blow
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; the public found out it had failed very badl;y
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft tends to hide the real numbers
21:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I still look at Rotten Tomatoes. If it's under 50% my general rule is definite skip.
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; I wonder how much money is wasted there
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; and lost
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; not even counting takerover of companies
21:49 DaemonFC; If even the people reviewing movies NOW think it's a turd.
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; at the expense of gullible MSFT shareholders
21:50 s98259; I stick to good old fashioned desktop OS.
21:50 s98259; <3
21:50 s98259; Aaaaaah the breeze! <3
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; desktops make work possible
21:50 s98259; Yep!
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; mobile gives the illusion of getting stuff done
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; it gets done
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; but in small doses
21:50 s98259; So they must stay
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; like scrolling and pressing things
21:51 s98259; Always have a place
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; phones are for phonecalls
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; on the go
21:51 s98259; Yep
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; if you need typing
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; make a mental note
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; get it done when you have some mechanical keyboard
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; and then typo [sic] away like me
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes wheiole standing up
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; I try to not just sit
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes I do exercise while reading
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; don't "computer" in the kitchen
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; not the place
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; remember what you want to do
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; then do it where the computers are
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; I see people trying to reply to emails from thr toilets
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; and then sitting there in changing rooms
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; or on the bowls
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; for way too long
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; instead of just going to a keyboard
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; I don't see them on bowls
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; but in changing rooms
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; doing "business"
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; with two fingers
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; on the phone
21:54 s98259; Ewww!
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; (there's a joke there)
21:54 s98259; DaFuQ?!
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; writing emails
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; on a phone
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; two thumbs
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; very very slow
21:54 DaemonFC; I hate doing things on my phone.
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; I say, why don't you go home?
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; write it there?
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; or the office?
21:54 s98259; Then don't...
21:54 DaemonFC; The mobile Web sites are usually so bad it's like WAP 2022.
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; <s98259> Ewww!
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; exactly
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; writing emails on a tiny screen is "ewww"
21:55 *s98259 is now known as Helenah
21:55 Helenah; o.o
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; there's that old joke about trump tweeting from the toilet bowl
21:55 DaemonFC; Yes, it's hard to write detailed emails on a phone, so I usually don't even try to if it's going to go on for longer than a paragraph.
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; where he is unsupervised
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; apparently based on posting time this is what he did
21:56 DaemonFC; I've noticed that Fedora is grabbing things directly out of OpenSUSE at this point.
21:56 Helenah; o.O
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they ruins the web sites for us desktop users
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; the sites are narrow
21:56 DaemonFC; Such as their RPM dependency manager and BtrFS.
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; no usable navigation
21:56 DaemonFC; They're trying to rewrite Anaconda as an Electron app or something.
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; "Web"
21:56 Helenah; o.O
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; what an awful ida
21:56 DaemonFC; I saw that and I was like oh god no. Oh god and jesus no.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; and security-wise too
21:57 DaemonFC; They should move to Calamares.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; imagine all the issues in the browser the installer than inherits
21:57 DaemonFC; It's there, it's not a dependency nightmare.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; *then
21:57 DaemonFC; You can use it even on a slow computer without much RAM.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; yes, I was about to mention Calamares
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; also today: <techrights-news> (NEW): Community Calamares https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Community_Calamares.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/Community_Calamares.gmi
21:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Community Calamares
21:57 *Helenah goes to her bowl and eats her cat food
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; fedora is not curring edege anymore
21:58 DaemonFC; https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/anaconda-is-getting-a-new-suit/
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's just knife's edge
21:58 TR Bot; Anaconda is getting a new suit Fedora Community Blog
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM is killing the project
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; by eliminating the community that brought excellence
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; they also drive out many engineers who worked on Fedora
21:58 Helenah; So what happens if someone wants non-electron? o.O
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; the ICBM staff
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> I've noticed that Fedora is grabbing things directly out of OpenSUSE at this point.
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; many orphaned packages
21:59 DaemonFC; "Furthermore, its just a simple Python wrapper over Webkit and as we both already have Python and Webkit (used to show help pages in the current GUI) on the media, it does not really make the installation image any larger, even with the existing GTK3 GUI still in place!"
21:59 DaemonFC; So how is this going to work out on KDE, where WebkitGTK and GTK are not part of KDE?
21:59 DaemonFC; Or dod they just plan on killing the spins?
21:59 DaemonFC; Or do they plan to crap them up with GNOME stuff?
22:00 DaemonFC; It's not a problem on GNOME, sure. You're using GNOME components.
22:01 DaemonFC; WebkitGTK has vastly improved over the years, but it's still sort of limited in some ways, mostly because of Safari and Apple wanting to limit what you can do with Safari, which harms us.
22:02 DaemonFC; Their Content Blockers is not ideal. In some ways, it's better for us because the Epiphany "Adblock" code was horrid and incomplete, and so Apple's Content Blockers made THAT situation better.
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/man-city-crystal-palace-premier-league-highlights-63797197
22:03 TR Bot; City 4-2 Crystal Palace: Brief Highlights
22:03 DaemonFC; But it's not on par with ublock-origin, and never will be, and unless someone adds the WebRequest API to WebkitGTK, that's not going to change, so things like uBO and NoScript won't work even after WebExtensions support gets added in a few months.
22:04 TR News; Winged again: latest chapter of Alan Joyces ruinous reign at Qantas laid bare - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/another-milestone-in-joyces-disastrous-stewardship-of-qantas/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/another-milestone-in-joyces-disastrous-stewardship-of-qantas/
22:04 TR Bot; Winged again: latest chapter of Alan Joyce's ruinous reign at Qantas laid bare - Michael West
22:04 DaemonFC; The Epiphany ad blocker didn't support things like blocking something and then adding exclusions conditionally.
22:04 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM keeps pushing GTK
22:04 schestowitz[TR]; now they want to deprecate GTK2
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; I can find the link
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; from 2-3 days agoi
22:05 DaemonFC; So we had to drop EasyPrivacy from it because it was breaking Web sites that should have worked.
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; the web is likle this
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; it pushes some nasty thing
22:05 Helenah; o.O
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; then you stoip the nasty thing
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; then the sites don't work
22:05 Helenah; O.o
22:05 Helenah; o.O
22:05 Helenah; o.o
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; so the web is inherently not working or working agaionst you
22:05 Helenah; O.O
22:05 DaemonFC; GTK2 has been in maintenance mode for years.
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; and you cannot fix that anymore
22:05 Helenah; WWW sux
22:06 Helenah; donkey balls
22:06 DaemonFC; It's only supported because some applications aren't ported. It was never going to live on forever.
22:06 schestowitz[TR]; I try to use gemini more/mostly
22:06 DaemonFC; Adding things like features or Wayland support to GTK2 isn't feasible.
22:07 TR News; Analogue learning for a digital age (25 years of Tony Blair) https://criticaledtech.com/2022/08/23/analogue-learning-for-a-digital-age-25-years-of-tony-blair/
22:07 TR Bot; Analogue learning for a digital age (25 years of Tony Blair) Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY
22:07 DaemonFC; The patches it gets are to make sure it builds and that it gets security fixes, and that's pretty much it at this point.
22:07 DaemonFC; Again, for years.
22:07 Helenah; That's true
22:07 Helenah; He's right guys
22:07 Helenah; He's correct
22:07 Helenah; okies
22:07 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], But the Web is alarming.
22:07 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: how much did you huff and puff? :-)
22:07 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: hmm?
22:08 DaemonFC; It's changing at a rapid clip and I actually fixed something because of the article you posted about scammers taking over mandriva's former domain and pitching some sort of casino scam.
22:08 schestowitz[TR]; partly joking
22:08 Helenah; "partly"
22:08 DaemonFC; I went to Wikipedia and removed all of the direct links to mandriva's former domain that I could find.
22:08 schestowitz[TR]; it still has some?
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; the official article, the main one, did not
22:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, they had "dead link" next to it.
22:09 DaemonFC; But it went to the scam site.
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; also, distrowatch made the links not clickable
22:09 DaemonFC; So I removed those.
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; that's the www
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; btw, number of internet domain i sdecreasing
22:09 DaemonFC; I mean, we should fix those. Why should we help scammers make money off of things like this?
22:09 Helenah; BBS <3
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; even if you count scammers
22:09 Helenah; IRC <3
22:09 DaemonFC; We should cut them off from it whenever we can so there's less incentive to keep doing it.
22:10 DaemonFC; I doubt many Wikipedia users click that link and hand the scammers their credit cards or something, but if even one person does, they made money.
22:10 DaemonFC; Possibly more than having that domain renewed cost them.
22:11 DaemonFC; So if you make more than it cost you, it's worth it.
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/category/servers/
22:11 TR Bot; Servers | Techrights
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/12/july-web-server-survey/
22:11 TR Bot; The World Wide Web is Shrinking and Microsofts Share in Web Servers is Down to Just 3% | Techrights
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/linear-web-scale.png
22:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Have you gone back and cleaned all your links to Mandriva?
22:11 Helenah; WWW won't shrink! That's nuts!
22:11 Helenah; BONKERS!
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I have not
22:11 schestowitz[TR]; mandriva is not the onl;y sucj problem
22:12 DaemonFC; WWW grows, mostly by taking 600 MB to do what 6 MB did 20 years ago and 6 MB to do what 600 KB did 20 years ago.
22:12 DaemonFC; :)
22:12 Helenah; Mobile apps even usually just wrap websites up inside of them.
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; I linked to thousands of domains that are now scam sites... after up to 16 years
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; if yoiu removed all links to all sites that are no longer owned and run by the same people/companies, there would not be many links left at all
22:12 DaemonFC; They're calling an entire generation "zoomers" like, after a single company I think.
22:12 DaemonFC; This is fucked.
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; many wikipedia references become web archive/wayback machine urls
22:13 DaemonFC; A nasty company that may not even be in business anymore in 4-5 years.
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; *internet archive
22:13 DaemonFC; And demographers will keep calling them that.
22:13 Helenah; hmm
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; zoom is a joke
22:13 DaemonFC; Thank god they didn't call my generation the "Facebookers" or the "Myspacers".
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; any idiot can code that
22:13 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: IRC <3 man
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; my brother coded a video chat application for android in 2010
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; as a
22:13 DaemonFC; Nobody will remember Fakebook in 20 years unless it's like they remember MySpace now.
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; n undergrad uni student
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; also lyft and uber are crap
22:14 DaemonFC; All Zuckerberg can do since he went crazy is burn money faster than they can make more.
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; larry ellison joked about them
22:14 DaemonFC; Ad rates are way down and he's investing billions per year into things that will only ever cost "Meta" money.
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; the "apps" don't do much sophisticated stuff except the spying
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; same for "dating" apps
22:14 Helenah; DaemonFC: All social media sites are just pop up and eventually gone thingies.
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; they're geometry "apps"
22:14 DaemonFC; Yes, and then all that effort to post there, all the hours of lives wasted....
22:14 Helenah; They tend to run for YEARS, maybe a decade after in the background but nobody speaks about them anymore.
22:14 DaemonFC; GONE
22:15 Helenah; For example last I checked MySpace was still going.
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> All Zuckerberg can do since he went crazy is burn money faster than they can make more.
22:15 Helenah; Things like ICQ are still going
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; my mom told me today people quit facebook
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; exceptm old people
22:15 Helenah; but nobody ever speaks of them
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; like her
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; and that they moved to instagram
22:15 DaemonFC; Most people don't "engage" with it.
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; I had tro remind her who ownes instagram
22:15 Helenah; Agreed
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; the ignorance is astounding
22:15 DaemonFC; There's a lot of dangling accounts that people rarely check.
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; I asked her,
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; how many people did you physically meet
22:16 Helenah; IRC is the same really, still a thing, people are still creating IRC networks, people are still connecting to IRC networks but nobody speaks of IRC.
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; distict people
22:16 Helenah; These things become a niche
22:16 Helenah; and eventually die
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; she said 8 this month, she could count them on two hands
22:16 DaemonFC; The only sort of economy that makes sense today for sustainability and equity is a post-growth economy. But we won't have one.
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; I said, that's how many friends you have
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> IRC is the same really, still a thing, people are still creating IRC networks, people are still connecting to IRC networks but nobody speaks of IRC.
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; IRC users speak of IRC
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; GAFAM media does not
22:16 DaemonFC; They have to pretend that this fake shit is important and that people need to waste their lives working on fake shit and promoting fake shit with their bullshit job, so that they can say it's the "economy growing".
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; that media is paid to do ads/marketing as "news"
22:17 DaemonFC; And with the economy "growing", they need "more workers".
22:17 DaemonFC; And it's just absolutely stupid.
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; and IRC doe snot buy 'the news'
22:17 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: Correct
22:17 Helenah; But my point is...
22:17 Helenah; Not many of them in the world
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: and they tell us to do "self-checkout"
22:17 Helenah; so you don't walk through your front door and hear someone speaking of IRC
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; because then the workers are paid nothing
22:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The side effect is sometimes Free Software.
22:17 Helenah; You'll most likely hear someone mention Facebook
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; the workers are the customers
22:18 DaemonFC; But that's "feeding the sparrows through the horses".
22:18 DaemonFC; You have to dole out so much of your economic output to the Fakebooks and they abuse people badly, and then they put out a trivial amount of Free Software that is usable in Linux or something.
22:18 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: there are aboyuut a million irc usersa
22:18 schestowitz[TR]; and online there are maybe half a million at any one time
22:18 Helenah; Yeah and many many many many more people on earth...
22:19 MinceR; 27 231600 < Helenah> IRC is the same really, still a thing, people are still creating IRC networks, people are still connecting to IRC networks but nobody speaks of IRC.
22:19 MinceR; well, you know the first rule of IRC Club...
22:19 DaemonFC; I don't know about mjg59_. In some years, probably he'll be at another employer because this one collapsed. Self-driving cars are a fantasy.
22:19 schestowitz[TR]; even the media says so now
22:19 DaemonFC; Maybe some of what they do will end up in Linux, but he's basically at another Facebook.
22:19 schestowitz[TR]; they ran out of "fake articles budget"
22:19 schestowitz[TR]; puff pieces pretending this can work out
22:19 schestowitz[TR]; I know first hand it won't wqork
22:19 DaemonFC; You know, those companies aren't important in the long run.
22:20 Helenah; I don't like how everyone has turned into phone zombies...
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; I coded some stuff related to this a decade back
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; as a researcher
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22:20 Helenah; Everyone is now a slave to a computer, a zombie...
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; then they fall back on beeping machine
22:20 MinceR; victim of a criminal
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; "driving assistants"
22:20 DaemonFC; Yes, they cut labor costs by making everything self-service.
22:20 Helenah; Since smart phones, everyone is ALWAYS at a computer in one way or another.
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; they produce more false positives than they're worth
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; and end up distracting the driver
22:20 DaemonFC; And then your grocery bill goes up another 15% that year.
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; stupid gimmicks inside the dashboard
22:20 Helenah; Humans are already all cyborgs.
22:20 Helenah; You only have to wear tech and you're a cyborg.
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: unless you bargain-hunt
22:21 starstreak; i love being a cyborg
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; I started dry-shaving again earlier this year
22:21 DaemonFC; You remember how things were in the 90s? Nobody did online banking. Your checking account paid 5%, your Savings paid 9%.
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; lowers gas bills and water
22:21 Helenah; starstreak: Well you already are one.
22:21 DaemonFC; And they had all of these branches.
22:21 starstreak; Helenah, i know <3
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; and I can read books while shaving
22:21 DaemonFC; Today, they cut thousands of branches.
22:21 Helenah; You might not be a biohacker but you're a cyborg.
22:21 starstreak; ooo biohacking
22:21 Helenah; Biohacking is when you start actually "hacking" your body.
22:21 DaemonFC; Tell you do it yourself on a Web site that's so bad it's not even available half the time.
22:21 DaemonFC; And your account doesn't pay interest.
22:21 Helenah; Implants, things like that
22:21 starstreak; i know im a cyborg, Elon Musk made that point
22:22 Helenah; Musk? Pfft
22:22 Helenah; lol
22:22 XRevan86; Helenah: So are cart runners cyborgs?
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: or pays interesting 10 times lower than inflation rat
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; "thanks for... nothing"
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; (interest
22:22 starstreak; Helenah, he made me realize it anyway, he was on Joe Rogan
22:22 DaemonFC; Whose life improves for all of this "self-service"?
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; *rate
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; inflation rat LOL
22:22 starstreak; "That's crazy man, you ever try DMT?" - Joe Rogan
22:22 DaemonFC; Yours? You do free labor. The employees? They have no job. The executives and the shareholders!
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; "dammn... THIS INFLATION RAT!!"
22:22 Helenah; XRevan86: Lol, what? :D
22:23 starstreak; 4 Hour BBS Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI&t=13566s
22:23 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=nO5vjmDFZaI
22:23 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | BBS the Documentary [Full HD] - Invidious
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; "you callin' me a RAT?"
22:23 XRevan86; Helenah: Cart pusher I mean.
22:23 Helenah; Yeah I know :D
22:23 XRevan86; Not sure what the proper term is.
22:23 Helenah; A cart is just a tool
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; rebellioj is brewing
22:23 XRevan86; But it's also technology.
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; and people increasingly get off their skinnerboxes (social control media)
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; but not "phones"
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; we need people back on real computers
22:24 Helenah; Cyborg is when you start intregating tech and the body together physically
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; but now there is "supply chain" shortage
22:24 Helenah; *integrating
22:24 Helenah; So for example wearables, things in your pockets
22:24 XRevan86; Helenah: Wearing crap is not physical integration.
22:24 Helenah; even ear piercings and stuff really
22:24 XRevan86; So cyborgs have been a thing even BCE?
22:24 Helenah; Yeah really
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; they try to call surveillance pieces "fashgion" now
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; or "smart"
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; we can fight back by changing their terms
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; and berate people who but into it
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; politely enough
22:25 Helenah; Actually piercing ears could also be seen as biohacking.
22:25 Helenah; Because you're changing the state of your body from how it naturally is, hacking it.
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; and tats?
22:25 XRevan86; Breaking News: Cyborgs Were Among Us BCE But It's Not As Exciting As One May Think
22:26 XRevan86; Neanderthal Cyborgs
22:26 MinceR; Neanderthal Strogg
22:27 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I'm in a Transhumanist community.
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; oh noes
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; you will get britney going again..
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; with neanderthal
22:27 Helenah; They want some wrongs to be viewed as rights.
22:27 *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights
22:27 XRevan86; Helenah: I mean, with the bar this low it's really not hard to be transhumanist :D
22:27 DaemonFC; mjg59_ and bio hacking.....
22:27 Helenah; Like things that are currently seen as wrong
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; "Transhumanist" became a very toxic word
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; that gets associated with cranks
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; so better not even touch the word anymore
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; even if those people themselves use that word, "Transhumanist"
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; same for "Deep State"
22:28 Helenah; XRevan86: Yeah but they want beyond ear piercings and chip implants.
22:28 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], lolz
22:28 starstreak; you mean the cyborg neanderthallers?
22:28 XRevan86; Helenah: "Because you're changing the state of your body from how it naturally is, hacking it." <- Maybe eating supplements is biohacking, too.
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; heh
22:28 Helenah; You can't just be like "I want a third arm that I can control" and then simply go get one implanted to your chest...
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: hormones
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^
22:28 Helenah; XRevan86: It is
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: you can get better limbs
22:29 Helenah; Doing anything with the intent of changing your body for example enhancing its functionality or changing such functionality or whatever is biohacking.
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; a third harm is llike a fifth wheel
22:29 Helenah; That can be done with drugs too
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; or sa swiss army knife with 20 knives
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; or different dizes
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; you might be better off with a cord cutter
22:29 Helenah; I spoke to a guy who implanted a pi into his body.
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; INTO?
22:30 XRevan86; It's always fun when a neologism is retroactively applied to almost everything humans do.
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; the body would react badly
22:30 Helenah; It's a pretty useless implant because that will become obsolete quickly and he'll have to remove it.
22:30 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: No, not if it's covered in resin.
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; so it''s a bubble with something in it
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; and charging these things is hard
22:30 Helenah; Actually implant rejection can still occure
22:30 schestowitz[TR]; like pacemakers
22:30 Helenah; But not always
22:30 Helenah; Yes
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; you could program a pacemaker
22:31 Helenah; Shaped to be comfortable too
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; but the companies won't let you
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; likely sue reverse engineeers too
22:31 Helenah; Implant rejection looks bad
22:31 Helenah; your body starts trying to tunnel the implant
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; raspi is very large
22:31 Helenah; the rejection site itches
22:32 Helenah; Yeah
22:32 XRevan86; Are we talking about implanting raspi's into human bodies?
22:32 Helenah; XRevan86: Yep
22:32 Helenah; And implant rejection risk
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; does it also come with a wire for recharging?
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; a wire that comes out from the skin?
22:32 Helenah; Yes
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; ewww
22:32 Helenah; Radio charging
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; a pi?
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; it needs like 5 volts
22:32 Helenah; Yeah, he charges it via radio
22:33 Helenah; You can get wireless chargers for phones
22:33 Helenah; It's a flat coil
22:33 Helenah; Like a pad
22:33 schestowitz[TR]; but the phones are not in human tissue
22:33 Helenah; The charging put was right up to the skin in his thigh while the pi implanted into the fat.
22:33 Helenah; *part
22:33 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, sound slike something a person would do for short-term attentiobn
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; reddit thread: I put pi in my body.. [something[
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; [2 comments, 2 upvotes][
22:34 Helenah; Nah
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; "lol, that was worth it"
22:34 Helenah; He's on hackaday
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; [proceeds to removing the implant]
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; hackaday is one I had in mind
22:34 Helenah; And an OS was GNU/Linux distro was developed from it for use inside the body.
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; I follow everything there
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; maybe I even linked to that project
22:35 Helenah; That was it, he was hosting a file server inside his body.
22:35 XRevan86; Helenah: So are we talking raspi zero or the regular version?
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; pico?
22:35 Helenah; XRevan86: I can't fully remember that part.
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; pico does not run gnu/linux
22:35 Helenah; But I explained as much as I could and even pointed you guys to hackaday.
22:35 XRevan86; Oh, Pico's a thing, yea.
22:35 Helenah; Anyway biohacking is cool
22:35 XRevan86; Of course if someone implanted a proper raspi, that's way more hilarious.
22:35 schestowitz[TR]; those have availability
22:36 schestowitz[TR]; unlike the "main" product
22:36 DaemonFC; It's almost cheaper to buy new clothes than to go to the laundromat.
22:36 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: they can put that inside a boob blob
22:36 schestowitz[TR]; but then it would overheat
22:36 schestowitz[TR]; it would also hurt to sleep on it
22:36 schestowitz[TR]; the pi has shrp edges
22:37 schestowitz[TR]; sooner or later it would become so disgusting and damaged you'd remove it and have only scars
22:37 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe tumours too
22:37 XRevan86; schestowitz: Maybe bubble wrap it :)
22:37 schestowitz[TR]; the bubbles would melt
22:37 XRevan86; But it would still overheat of course.
22:38 schestowitz[TR]; so you end up with ewaste in your body
22:38 Helenah; I once got to see inside an NOC (Network Operations Centre), that was soo cool! :D
22:38 Helenah; Exclusive access too!!!
22:38 schestowitz[TR]; my office is a NOC
22:38 schestowitz[TR]; right now evern
22:38 schestowitz[TR]; 9 screns
22:38 schestowitz[TR]; wide uses 3
22:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], People wonder how it can be that expensive to go to the laundromat.
22:38 schestowitz[TR]; *wife
22:38 Helenah; This has the worlds second largest plasma screen in it.
22:38 XRevan86; Maybe if a person has a lot of fat and it's implanted just below the skin, with all the ports exposed through the skin
22:38 DaemonFC; It's simple. Like everything else, "Because they can do it to you.".
22:38 Helenah; Still used to this day
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; large screens are very expensive
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; a
22:39 DaemonFC; Why does it cost $1,000 a month to rent an apartment that hasn't been maintained properly and where everything smells like mildew?
22:39 DaemonFC; Because they can!
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; better to buy array of smaller ones
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; you also get finer resolution
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: in IL?
22:39 schestowitz[TR]; inc. bills?
22:40 DaemonFC; $1,000 is now on the lower end, and it doesn't include electric.
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; water?
22:40 DaemonFC; Yeah. water and garbage.
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; well, water is not as expensive now
22:40 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/sites/datacenterknowledge.com/files/styles/article_featured_retina/public/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/BT-network-ops-center-Oswestry.jpg?itok=9_cse_gr
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; just scarece due to lack of rainfall here
22:40 Helenah; I was looking down on it like that
22:40 DaemonFC; The Democrats do raise the water bill every time they want to spend the money on something else.
22:40 DaemonFC; And not say it's a tax.
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; gchq in man has some very large screen
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; graft
22:40 Helenah; You see that screen?
22:40 Helenah; That huge screen?
22:40 schestowitz[TR]; they wate money on it like mad
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; the one in heron house
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; opp.. town hall
22:41 Helenah; It displays UK TV broadcasting channels
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; and they joke about how much money was wasted on iut
22:41 Helenah; 999 call monitoring stuff
22:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], They should come here and take some lessons from our politicians about how to fuck you over and not have anything you can do about it.
22:41 Helenah; They answer your 999 calls
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; that screen is useless vanity
22:41 DaemonFC; Like just keep raising your water bill every time they want to spend money.
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; because from that distance they cannot see much
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; it's just adult "kids"
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; trying to emulate scifi filsm
22:41 schestowitz[TR]; they watched as kids
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; keith alexander from nsa actually said he anted to emulate star trek
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; nad make a "bdridge" in nsa
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; adult kids
22:42 Helenah; lol :D
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; waste of money on fantasies with no practical benefit
22:42 DaemonFC; Yeah, but nobody can stop them, so.....
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; they ncannot read the finer fonts from their desks
22:42 DaemonFC; Why not?
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; even with eyeglasses on
22:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm the government. Don't mind me. I'll just get in your bank account and take whatever I want because you can't stop me. Here, I'll go spend it on a "safe space" for heroin addicts to shoot up right in front of nurses you're paying for.
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: it shows the standard desk has 4 monitors
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; and then some giant monitor that costs maybe 1000 times the cost of a small one
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; and is not very useful anyway
22:44 schestowitz[TR]; gchq manchester wasted like tens of millions on a screen iirc
22:44 schestowitz[TR]; and it became a local joke
22:44 Helenah; lol
22:44 schestowitz[TR]; when you are gchq you havbe no budgetg limits or contraints
22:44 DaemonFC; "Oh, did I say you're paying for that? I mean you water bill is going up 25%. Because reasons!" -The Government
22:44 Helenah; How come the focus turned 100% into the screen? :D
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; correction:
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; theiur standard desk has 32 screen
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; one frontal, side for the sides
22:45 Helenah; To be honest, what ran through my mind back then was "Why are you maintaining a plasma screen?"
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; *3
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; not 2
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; and not 32
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; actyuallt the lady on the lft does have 4
22:45 Helenah; Having to re-gas it after so many years...
22:45 schestowitz[TR]; so it varies a bit
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; also the lady on the right... use 4 screens
22:46 DaemonFC; I turned that into a facebook comment on the IRS.
22:46 DaemonFC; "I'm the government. Don't mind me. I'll just get in your bank account and take whatever I want because you can't stop me. Here, I'll go spend it on a "safe space" for heroin addicts to shoot up right in front of nurses you're paying for. Oh, did I say you're paying for that? I mean you water bill is going up 25%. Because reasons!" -How stuff gets done in Democrat cities.
22:46 DaemonFC; Why would anyone be surprised they run the federal government like a really big version of that?
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; if you look into the windows in amnc ity centre you see more officer spaces that are now dual-head stations
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; rarely triple
22:47 Helenah; Dou you even know what you're looking at though? lol
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; this noc uses relatively small screens
22:47 Helenah; *Do
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; they look like flatscreens from 20 years ago
22:47 Helenah; They are
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; maybe preowned
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; and repurposed
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; maybe for eye strain reduction
22:48 Helenah; So yeah a lot of equipment you see there is old.
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; this noc looks like old photo
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; maybe 2005
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; they have a special bunch of peripheralsm for call handling
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; and no privacy
22:48 Helenah; Nope
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; not even a cubicle
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; so it's not an enjoyable noc
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; just a streeess poioint
22:48 Helenah; 2013
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; and you hear colleagues on the phone
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; and the boss walks around, behind you, without you being able to know
22:49 DaemonFC; https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/JxtmIvSeyIUKWvGWDuLIQPrJ
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; if you are in the "front" row you get better view on the large screeen and slightly better privacy
22:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; and less noise
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; in 2013 you could get 22-inch monitors for about 130 pounds
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; I got one for 110 off the display at dixons/pc world
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; it still works
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; it's the second screen of my main laptop
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; turning 12 next year
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; AOC
22:51 Helenah; So they claimed that the building was designed to be bomb proof but they won't know if it will survive a bomb because it has never been tested, only on a smaller scale...
22:51 DaemonFC; You know, $600, or as I've recently taken to calling it, twenty Biden dollars.
22:51 schestowitz[TR]; 2018 argos was selling hp 22-inchers for 79 pouncd apiece
22:51 schestowitz[TR]; you could get preowned ones for like 20 or 30 pounds
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22:51 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: where is it?
22:52 Helenah; That building connects all UK infrastructure together.
22:52 schestowitz[TR]; Oswestry
22:52 Helenah; Yep
22:52 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswestry
22:52 TR Bot; Oswestry - Wikipedia
22:52 Helenah; Yes
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah:
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Battle-Station-2021
22:53 TR Bot; 'Battle Station' 2021
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; I've since then moved everything
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; and added a computer and 2 screens
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; with 11 screens the NOC is complete
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; but operated by 2
22:54 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: https://i.imgur.com/N9P1p15.jpg
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; nice
22:54 schestowitz[TR]; elegant
22:55 Helenah; Thankies :D
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; tghe chair would not be good for the back
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; in the long run
22:55 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: https://i.imgur.com/eLQs4QX.jpg
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; seems like dining chair
22:55 Helenah; Yeh, agreed
22:55 Helenah; I'm wanting to get a computer chair :3
22:55 Helenah; https://i.imgur.com/TuuS8Uu.jpg
22:55 *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights
22:55 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: III have a spare one unused
22:56 schestowitz[TR]; maybe rianne will uise it soon
22:56 schestowitz[TR]; she started having back pains this week
22:56 schestowitz[TR]; (again)
22:56 techuser; the text seems to be illegible, but be sure not to leak passwords or something
22:56 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: My kitchen tiles :D https://i.imgur.com/1r3AoBF.jpg
22:56 schestowitz[TR]; the kitchen seems new
22:57 schestowitz[TR]; your passowrd is "SALT"??
22:57 Helenah; No, the kitchen is old. lol
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22:57 schestowitz[TR]; seems like a safe place to be
22:57 Helenah; The kitchens are painted semi-permanent
22:57 Helenah; lol
22:57 schestowitz[TR]; if you can surd this "recession"
22:58 schestowitz[TR]; *surf
22:58 schestowitz[TR]; brb
22:58 Helenah; It's just a recession man
22:58 Helenah; It's nothing compared to death...
22:58 Helenah; There are people in 3rd world countries living through way worse things than sky high gas bills...
22:58 TR News; "Recently grub has been going through a few challenges and Fedora Silverblue was not safe and it had a pretty serious issue you literally couldn't update your system as an update is treated like a new OS" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BlAgtCYIBQQ
22:59 TR Bot; How Fedora Silverblue Broke Automated Updates - Invidious
22:59 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: yes, I know
22:59 schestowitz[TR]; said to the wife today
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 129.60
22:59 schestowitz[TR]; in some place, this means hunger
22:59 schestowitz[TR]; here, it means something else
22:59 Helenah; STARVING more like
22:59 Helenah; Most people don't know what starving is...
22:59 schestowitz[TR]; the % relative to salary spent on food and energy here is small on a global scale/grand scheme of things
22:59 Helenah; They only experienced a bit of hunger before a meal
23:00 schestowitz[TR]; I read that, accoridng to the UN, in past 2 years hungry people rose from 100 million something to over 800 million
23:00 Helenah; Yeah, it's crazy :/
23:00 schestowitz[TR]; hunger as in... no assurance you have food on the day
23:00 schestowitz[TR]; 8000 mill;ion people and up
23:00 schestowitz[TR]; inc. kids
23:00 schestowitz[TR]; *800
23:00 Helenah; Seriously though if you think I really care about the economy then you don't know me. :D
23:01 Helenah; I've been reduced to zero...
23:01 Helenah; ie homeless, etc, etc
23:01 Helenah; So therefore...
23:01 Helenah; A hit to the economy is like... nothing to me :D
23:01 Helenah; It's just another thingie that happened
23:01 Helenah; oh well moving on sorta thingie lol
23:02 schestowitz[TR]; ttps://www.voanews.com/a/war-in-ukraine-will-worsen-hunger-un-agency-says/6492381.html
23:02 Helenah; schestowitz[TR]: I'm soo damn minimal that...
23:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.voanews.com/a/war-in-ukraine-will-worsen-hunger-un-agency-says/6492381.html https://truthout.org/video/un-is-prioritizing-corporate-profiteers-over-global-hunger-activists-say
23:02 TR Bot; War in Ukraine Will Worsen Hunger, UN Agency Says
23:02 Helenah; I don't bathe or shower
23:02 Helenah; But wash down at sink
23:02 TR Bot; UN Is Prioritizing Corporate Profiteers Over Global Hunger, Activists Say
23:02 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/11/10/un-agencies-warn-global-hunger-and-displacement-surge-coronavirus-pandemi
23:02 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/11/10/un-agencies-warn-global-hunger-and-displacement-surge-coronavirus-pandemi )
23:02 Helenah; Most people think a bath or shower is a necessity in their home...
23:03 Helenah; And don't realise it's actually a luxury.
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/26/coalition-slams-un-food-summit-peddling-corporate-led-false-solutions-hunge
23:03 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/26/coalition-slams-un-food-summit-peddling-corporate-led-false-solutions-hunge )
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/21/warning-hammer-blow-pandemic-un-food-agencies-say-coronavirus-could-double-global
23:03 TR Bot; Warning of 'Hammer Blow' From Pandemic, UN Food Agencies Say Coronavirus Could Double Global Levels of Acute Hunger
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/26/coalition-slams-un-food-summit-peddling-corporate-led-false-solutions-hunger
23:03 TR Bot; Coalition Slams UN Food Summit for Peddling 'Corporate-Led False Solutions' to Hunger
23:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/11/10/un-agencies-warn-global-hunger-and-displacement-surge-coronavirus-pandemic
23:03 TR Bot; UN Agencies Warn of Global Hunger and Displacement 'Surge' From Coronavirus Pandemic
23:03 Helenah; Cray
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3uexl9
23:06 TR Bot; asshole, crotch and teeth. - George Carlin - quickmeme
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/46azq3/i_only_need_to_wash_the_four_key_areas_armpits/
23:06 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/46azq3/i_only_need_to_wash_the_four_key_areas_armpits/ )
23:06 schestowitz[TR]; from https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-Y-yH_Qyipc
23:06 TR Bot; George Carlin - Fear of Germs - Invidious
23:11 TR News; E84: Tech Talk w/ Gabriel Agboruche - Cyber Security https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEa8-xHafFQ
23:11 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=pEa8-xHafFQ
23:11 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=pEa8-xHafFQ )
23:13 TR News; How to Use Workspaces and Hot Corners in Linux Mint to Boost Productivity https://www.makeuseof.com/use-workspaces-and-hot-corners-in-linux-mint/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/use-workspaces-and-hot-corners-in-linux-mint/
23:13 TR Bot; How to Use Workspaces and Hot Corners in Linux Mint to Boost Productivity
23:14 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/27/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
23:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
23:15 TR News; Rasdaemon is what you want on Linux if you're seeing kernel MCE messages https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/MCEUseRasdaemon Source: uni Toronto | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/MCEUseRasdaemon
23:15 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/MCEUseRasdaemon
23:17 TR News; "The goal of each offer is the same. The solicitor wants to add malicious code for some unnamed, nefarious purpose. Usually its ad tech-related spyware." https://ericwbailey.website/published/re-selling-your-extension/
23:17 TR Bot; Re: Selling your extension Eric Bailey
23:17 TR News; "IP [sic] Waivers are as much as part of the global patent system as patent protections are: they're the quid-pro-quo that justified poor countries' tying their own hands and agreeing not to make drugs that would improve the quality of life for the people who live there." https://pluralistic.net/2022/08/24/waivers-for-me-not-for-thee/#vaccine-apartheid
23:17 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 24 Aug 2022 Modernas Vaccine Apartheid Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
23:18 Helenah; Sorry I started coding, schestowitz[TR], I'm stoned... o.o
23:19 TR News; Twitter Whistleblowing Report Actually Seems To Confirm Twitters Legal Argument, While Pretending To Support Musks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/24/twitter-whistleblowing-report-actually-seems-to-confirm-twitters-legal-argument-while-pretending-to-support-musks/
23:19 TR Bot; Whistleblowing Report Actually Seems To Confirm Twitters Legal Argument, While Pretending To Support Musks | Techdirt
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:22 TR News; "As consumers become more aware of how much data their devices take in and how often that data gets sold or shared with third parties, Maks Czuperski is hoping theres a market for services that can expose the data-hungry devices in the vicinity." https://staceyoniot.com/bluescore-wants-to-show-you-which-devices-are-looking-in/
23:22 TR Bot; BlueScore wants to show you which devices are looking in - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
23:22 TR News; Which programming language should I learn? https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/which-programming-language-should-i-learn/
23:22 TR Bot; programming language should I learn? | R-bloggers
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; Helenah: be creative
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vuoNn-a7ZlA
23:29 TR Bot; Southampton vs Manchester United 01 - Extndd Hghlghts & All Gals 2022 HD - Invidious
23:30 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/301860562_398624602441287_8573096231049447809_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=u-cFtzGt0rkAX8UYL_2&_nc_oc=AQmoEr1IaoMnV0pLzlX34t3A9DYB60V65G5p9rtAzzbYDMVpt71yjOwB95OZ_8K99bo&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT8Chgzled8bSiWhLMyok8LK-9d5bx0f12xq2GADlwISrA&oe=630F701B
23:30 DaemonFC; "Hard working plumber looking forward to paying for neighbor's Gender Studies degree."
23:30 schestowitz[TR]; equal to PL record
23:30 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AenRNoY3D4Q
23:30 TR Bot; HIGHLIGHTS: Liverpool 9-0 Bournemouth | Record-breaking NINE goals at Anfield! - Invidious
23:30 DaemonFC; Well, how will they know what gender Matt's partner is without it?
23:32 schestowitz[TR]; the vampite slayer
23:32 schestowitz[TR]; *pire
23:32 *schestowitz[TR] works on new tuxmachines structure
23:33 schestowitz[TR]; turns out old archives alone are still about 3 hirs/sec, on average
23:33 schestowitz[TR]; drupal
23:33 schestowitz[TR]; can make that more efficient
23:33 starstreak; i like the jekyll static site generator
23:33 schestowitz[TR]; https://static1.makeuseofimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Use-workspaces-in-Linux-Mint.jpg
23:34 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: we made our own
23:34 schestowitz[TR]; jekyll has nasty deps
23:34 schestowitz[TR]; and lacks features
23:34 schestowitz[TR]; if you hack on it
23:34 schestowitz[TR]; then you deviate away from upstream
23:34 DaemonFC; They want so much for cooking oil at the store these days.... On top of switching to the air fryer, I've conserved cooking spray by baking on parchment paper.
23:34 schestowitz[TR]; which may contain security patches
23:34 DaemonFC; The paper is cheaper and you can use it up to 400 degrees F, so it's usually an acceptable solution.
23:34 starstreak; yeah the deps weren't fun
23:35 starstreak; the output was nice tho
23:35 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes, cooking oil is expensive, eggs too
23:35 schestowitz[TR]; food supply chain breakdown it seems
23:35 schestowitz[TR]; too much demand remains for things they cannot provide/suppply
23:35 schestowitz[TR]; not just the war , the agra issues too
23:35 schestowitz[TR]; climate, heat waves, droughts
23:35 DaemonFC; They have to say don't use it at more than 400. Duh doy! Fahrenheit 451. The temperature at which Matt Gulag burns the truth.
23:35 schestowitz[TR]; there's fiece competiotion over food resources now
23:36 schestowitz[TR]; *fiercer than before
23:36 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you can reuse oven heat
23:36 schestowitz[TR]; put more things in the oven
23:36 schestowitz[TR]; and gets smaller oven for small things
23:37 DaemonFC; It's ironic that Ray Bradbury was from Illinois, Waukegan actually.
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; now people start thinking about those sorts of things
23:37 DaemonFC; Fahrenheit 451 is what the Democrats are doing now.
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; as energy bills double
23:37 DaemonFC; To give the idea there are more than two genders, they have to first delete the concept of gender.
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; a friend of mine pays 250 a month, for two people, who work outside home
23:37 DaemonFC; And they do that by canceling books that point that out.
23:37 schestowitz[TR]; don't know how they use up that much power, maybe heating up the home
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; which has limited insulation, no doors in the living room area
23:38 DaemonFC; Mom averages about $155 a month.
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; some homes are built such that you need to heat up entire floors
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; just to keep one little area warm
23:38 DaemonFC; Her landlord said she "always" used over $250, which is why he "had to raise the rent".
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; for one person?
23:38 schestowitz[TR]; who works at the church?
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; outside home?
23:39 DaemonFC; I said, "Bullshit. Call the electric company. Ask them.". She goes, "I don't think you can do that.". I said, "Ask them for a 12 month average on that unit because you're thinking about signing a lease.".
23:39 DaemonFC; They told her.
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; she pays more than a couple and we're at home all the time
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; so her landlord isa liar. nice.
23:39 DaemonFC; It was about $100 a month less than what the landlord was saying.
23:40 DaemonFC; Oh he exaggerates about money all the time. I knew that already.
23:40 DaemonFC; If he does something that cost him a nickel on the apartment, that was four hundred bucks you know.
23:41 DaemonFC; He's so stupid that he caused an insane amount of water damage to my mom's apartment trying to unclog a shower upstairs.
23:41 schestowitz[TR]; she was better off tiffing with Felta in a hokme on mortgage
23:41 schestowitz[TR]; she would have even paid it off twice over by now
23:41 DaemonFC; The stuff works based on generating heat and pressure and pushing out the clog, right?
23:41 DaemonFC; And it said use a tablespoon and pour in a cup of hot water.
23:41 DaemonFC; So what do you think he did?
23:42 DaemonFC; He pours in the entire bottle, which had like 100 tablespoons, pours in the water.
23:42 DaemonFC; The drain pipe explodes, it's raining in mom's kitchen, water and caustic pipe chemicals.
23:42 DaemonFC; The guy is a fucking idiot, Roy.
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; he blew irt
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; literally
23:43 DaemonFC; Well, it's not clogged anymore.
23:43 DaemonFC; :)
23:43 TR News; first impressions gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random16
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; it burst
23:44 DaemonFC; No clog.
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; he worked around the clog-=up
23:44 DaemonFC; You blew it up! You maniacs!
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; broke free of the piping
23:44 DaemonFC; You god damned maniacs blew it up!
23:44 schestowitz[TR]; next time he wants to build a bomb he knows what to use and where to buy it
23:45 DaemonFC; That stuff is seriously bad on pipes.
23:45 DaemonFC; I mean, even to use according to the directions, it can melt pipes.
23:45 schestowitz[TR]; usually very corrosive
23:45 schestowitz[TR]; you don't want to use an actual tablespoon with it
23:45 schestowitz[TR]; if you later use the spoon
23:45 schestowitz[TR]; metal or plastic pipes|?
23:46 DaemonFC; Like PEX.
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; today's homes are made more cheaply
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; just like today's electronics
23:46 DaemonFC; People pour it down the drain and then they have a bigger problem than paying a plumber to come unclog a pipe.
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; people expect everything "cheap"
23:46 schestowitz[TR]; even if it lasts just 3-5 years
23:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], There's a lot of cases where if you don't know what you're doing, leave it alone.
23:47 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: plungers before it's too late
23:47 DaemonFC; You'll only cause more damage and then you turn a $300 plumber call to like $4,000 worth of shit that needs to happen before you can use that bathroom again.
23:47 DaemonFC; Including replacing the floorboard and the drywall on the ceiling downstairs.
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; jnust pour icing down the pipe
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; and wash it off with milk
23:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], We have infamously bad plumbing in this apartment.
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; then he's full
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; and obese
23:48 DaemonFC; Ruben is out all the time unclogging it because it clogs too easily and fixing it right would be a major expense.
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; that's like trying to "fix" a CMS then
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; lots of work
23:49 DaemonFC; Like, at least once a month or so he's out here unclogging something because the building needs an overhaul, the landlord doesn't want to spend that kind of money.
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; and then comes a new "major" version
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; and the changes go down the drain
23:49 schestowitz[TR]; metaphorically
23:49 DaemonFC; So he pays Ruben $20 to come out and unclog everything so it works again for a couple months maybe.
23:50 DaemonFC; The bathroom fixtures need replaced.
23:50 DaemonFC; They got severely water damaged by a previous tenant.
23:50 DaemonFC; The entire area under the sink smells like mildew.
23:51 DaemonFC; Don't stick your head in. Don't store anything down there except maybe bathroom chemicals.
23:51 DaemonFC; The washers and dryers are either broken entirely or don't actually work until you've ran them several times.
23:51 DaemonFC; The washing machine down there is dancing around because someone's using it right now, actualy.
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23:52 DaemonFC; THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK CLUNKA CLUNK!THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK CLUNKA CLUNK! THUNK THUNK THUNK THUNK CLUNKA CLUNK!
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; dancing with the stars
23:53 DaemonFC; Everyone uses the THUNKA CLUNK CLUNK one because that's the one that leaves your clothes sopping wet. The second one down randomly ruins something spitting out leftover bleach.
23:53 DaemonFC; The third one has been broken since before I lived here.
23:53 DaemonFC; The dryers have no heat and cost $3 every time you activate them.
23:54 DaemonFC; The guy down the hall's apartment smells like cat piss and that's air freshener for whatever the hell in god's name his neighbor is smoking every night.
23:54 DaemonFC; I think he's the reason I had to put flea collars on my cats.
23:55 DaemonFC; I think it will take a month or two before the flea problem dies down because by the time the cat's scratching, it's too late to prevent a major infestation.
23:56 DaemonFC; About all you can do is activate flea collars and put them on the cats and vacuum your apartment regularly.
23:56 schestowitz[TR]; could bw worse
23:56 DaemonFC; There's thousands of flea eggs by the time you even realize it's a problem. It can take months for them to hatch, and they go to bite the cat once, and then die if it was wearing a collar.
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; you could be in "bay area" ppaying $5000 a month for a showboix 'home'
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; and pay maybe $10 for a dyer's cycle
23:57 DaemonFC; Oh, I don't use his washing machines.
23:57 schestowitz[TR]; if you know how to handle clothes and garments like sheets and curtains you rarely need a dryer
23:58 schestowitz[TR]; even in winter, it just takes longer
23:58 DaemonFC; I have a spinner that I use instead of a dryer.
23:58 DaemonFC; It uses a centrifuge to spin the water out of clothes.
23:58 DaemonFC; It's like a salad spinner for clothes.
23:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Even if the rent does go up to what I'm thinking, I'd rather cheap out on the rent and get an apartment that's just not so great than pay double or triple the rent.
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