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00:03 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/stockport-salutes-phil-foden-63801691
00:03 TR Bot; Stockport salutes Phil Foden
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/richard-stallman-hyderabad/
00:04 reptilian_thrills; we already know hes going to follow the script
00:04 reptilian_thrills; the talks are predictable. they dont surprise me that he still does them
00:04 reptilian_thrills; hyderabad <- *bhartiya sar hilana*
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; the official rms talk page does not list this
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he does not want a-hole s to write to the uni
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; to make false claims about him
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; to deplatform
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; a bunch of jealous a-holes would do all sorts of things..
00:07 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> maybe he does not want a-hole s to write to the uni <- understandable
00:07 reptilian_thrills; but it will always be this way.
00:07 reptilian_thrills; thats why i said the real richard stallman is [never] coming back
00:07 reptilian_thrills; he was ousted in 2019, its 2022-- same time of year
00:08 reptilian_thrills; 3 years, 1 month, 3 days
00:09 reptilian_thrills; if hes planning a triumphant return it better be on an alicorn that shits rainbow ice cream
00:09 reptilian_thrills; then again thats the sort of videos the fsf makes now
00:09 reptilian_thrills; stallman on a rainbow ice cream shitting alicorn would be a step up from the most recent one
00:10 reptilian_thrills; but it would still be bullshit. okay, alicorn shit.
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00:31 TR News; "Chat control measures have been discussed in the EU for some time." https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/privacy-and-freedom-should-be-the-legacy-we-leave-not-the-opposite
00:31 TR Bot; Privacy and freedom should be the legacy we leave, not the opposite Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
00:32 TR News; "The free software movement has produced so much more than software used by millions around the world. It also points the way to a freer and autonomous digital existence for all of us" https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet-2023-remember-to-submit-your-session-by-november-2
↺ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/libreplanet-2023-remember-to-submit-your-session-by-november-2
00:32 TR Bot; LibrePlanet 2023: Remember to submit your session by November 2 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; is anyone here submitting a talk?
00:36 reptilian_thrills; lol, lieplanet
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; will you submit a talk?
00:36 reptilian_thrills; keyword: submit
00:36 reptilian_thrills; is anyone here bending over for lieplanet?
00:36 dope_dealer; a talk about what bro
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; how about mr. thrills?
00:36 reptilian_thrills; i wouldnt have anything to do with lieplanet if stallman himself paid me to
00:37 reptilian_thrills; but they dont want me anyway
00:37 reptilian_thrills; i mean lets not fool ourselves
00:37 reptilian_thrills; lieplanet is not for people like me
00:37 reptilian_thrills; or people who care about freedom
00:37 reptilian_thrills; or people who care about truth
00:37 reptilian_thrills; or people who care about the treachery tha happened
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; well, you never gave your real name
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; that alone makes it almost impossible to give a talk
00:38 reptilian_thrills; lieplanet is the perpetrator of this treachery
00:38 reptilian_thrills; well, you never gave your real name <- theres an old piece about how to deliver a public talk anonymously
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; ssomeone suggested I give a talk about EPO and swpats in Europe
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; which I could do
00:38 reptilian_thrills; i think mr pirate party wrote it, or curated it at least
00:39 reptilian_thrills; why would anyone want to lend credibility to the militant anti-freedom wing of the fsf?
00:39 reptilian_thrills; i mean, id only laugh if they did
00:39 reptilian_thrills; but still, why?
00:39 reptilian_thrills; falkvinge
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; oh, he spoke there?
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; ex microsofter
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; but Ok person
00:40 schestowitz[TR]; became a lllot less visible though
00:40 reptilian_thrills; falkvinge wrote a book i really loved reading
00:40 reptilian_thrills; the case against copyright
00:41 reptilian_thrills; but after felix reda joined the coup
00:41 reptilian_thrills; i really liked felix reda btw
00:41 reptilian_thrills; i said fuck the pirate party, im joining the fucking NINJA party
00:41 reptilian_thrills; maybe the pirate party is ok though
00:41 reptilian_thrills; i really dk
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/05/18/libreplanet-2021-talk-reda/
00:41 TR Bot; Video and Transcript of Julia Redas LibrePlanet Keynote Talk | Techrights
00:46 TR News; WTH happened to Lunduke? The quality of these videos is awful, he said he had boycotted YouTube (evidently false; same for his "quitting" Twitter... several times). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoyDmH92j4Q
00:46 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=GoyDmH92j4Q
00:46 TR Bot; not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=GoyDmH92j4Q )
00:50 TR News; Cannot Trust Todays Phoronix | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/phoronix-is-not-independent/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/phoronix-is-not-independent/
00:50 TR Bot; Cannot Trust Todays Phoronix | Techrights
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00:55 TR News; Search in OpenBSD packages with openports.pl gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openports.pl.gmi
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00:56 TR News; Greedy people who work for Microsoft "because money" accuse Microsoft of "greed". The irony is not lost. https://www.thelayoff.com/microsoft
00:56 TR Bot; Corp. Layoffs - TheLayoff.com
00:58 TR News; "Stella Assange said her husband's fight for freedom was not a legal battle anymore, but lies in the hands of politicians. Assange has also been nominated for the European Union's top human rights prize." https://www.dw.com/en/julian-assange-faces-uncertain-future-his-wife-tells-dw/a-63447747
00:59 TR Bot; Assange faces 'uncertain future,' his wife tells DW DW 10/14/2022
00:59 TR News; "Joining ScheerPosts Max Jones and Diego Ramos is Kevin Gosztola, one of the esteemed speakers and a veteran journalist who has been covering cases involving people like Assange, Chelsea Manning and other whistleblowers for over 10 years. He is the managing editor at ShadowProof and curates The Dissenter newsletter." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/15/video-kevin-gosztola-and-the-state-of-support-for-julian-assange/
00:59 TR Bot; Kevin Gosztola and the State of Support for Julian Assange - scheerpost.com
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01:00 TR News; "Worsening matters, as Doctors for Assange notes, is the fact that Assange tested positive for COVID-19 on October 8." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/18/the-urgent-reasons-300-doctors-are-calling-for-julian-assanges-release/
01:00 TR Bot; Urgent Reasons 300 Doctors Are Calling for Julian Assange's Release - scheerpost.com
01:01 TR News; Wikileaks founder Julian Assange in poor health, lawyer says - JURIST - News https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/10/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-in-poor-health-according-to-assange-lawyer/ Source: JURIST | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.jurist.org/news/2022/10/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-in-poor-health-according-to-assange-lawyer/
01:01 TR Bot; Wikileaks founder Julian Assange in poor health, lawyer says - JURIST - News
01:02 TR News; Its horrible: Lawyer Jen Robinson on the toughest part of working for Assange https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-horrible-lawyer-jen-robinson-on-the-toughest-part-of-working-for-assange-20220726-p5b4ln.html
01:02 TR Bot; Jennifer Robinson: Human rights lawyer for Julian Assange, Amber Heard, and West Papuan freedom fighters
01:03 TR News; "Im Rahmen der FIfF-Konferenz wird Julian Assange mit dem Weizenbaum-Preis geehrt." https://netzpolitik.org/2022/fiff-konferenz-weizenbaum-preis-fuer-julian-assange/
01:03 TR Bot; FIfF-Konferenz: Weizenbaum-Preis fr Julian Assange
01:04 TR News; "Assange's father, John Shipton, was in Berlin for the German premiere of the documentary and talked to DW about the latest developments surrounding his imprisoned son." https://www.dw.com/en/documentary-ithaka-the-fight-to-free-julian-assange/a-63441770
01:04 TR Bot; The fight to free Julian Assange DW 10/15/2022
01:05 TR News; "Education should be subversive. It should give us the intellectual tools and vocabulary to question the reigning ideas and structures that buttress the powerful" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/17/chris-hedges-they-crush-our-song-for-a-reason/
01:05 TR Bot; Hedges: They Crush Our Song for a Reason - scheerpost.com
01:06 TR News; Waste of energy at times of shortages https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/14/bitcoin-community-casts-wary-eye-government-regulation-central-banks/
01:06 TR Bot; community casts wary eye at government regulation and central banks - SiliconANGLE
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01:09 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq_Mf8Jqxo4
01:09 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=Eq_Mf8Jqxo4
01:09 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | Al Bundy Funny Scene with Traci Lords - Invidious
01:09 DaemonFC; I didn't even know about this! LOL
01:18 dope_dealer; thats cuz ur dumb bro
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01:20 dope_dealer; ku klux klan mother fucker
01:21 TR News; SiliconANGLE is Selling Coverage (Fake Journalism) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/siliconangle-red-hat-ibm/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/siliconangle-red-hat-ibm/
01:21 TR Bot; SiliconANGLE is Selling Coverage (Fake Journalism) | Techrights
01:23 TR News; freebsd
01:23 TR News; Keeping FreeBSD Secure: Learn the Whys and Hows with the FreeBSD Sec Team | FreeBSD Foundation https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/keeping-freebsd-secure-learn-the-whys-and-hows-with-the-freebsd-sec-team/ Source: FreeBSD | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//freebsdfoundation.org/blog/keeping-freebsd-secure-learn-the-whys-and-hows-with-the-freebsd-sec-team/
01:23 TR Bot; Keeping FreeBSD Secure: Learn the Whys and Hows with the FreeBSD Sec Team | FreeBSD Foundation
01:24 TR News; New How-to Guide: Binary Package Management on FreeBSD | FreeBSD Foundation https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/new-how-to-guide-binary-package-management-on-freebsd/ Source: FreeBSD | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//freebsdfoundation.org/blog/new-how-to-guide-binary-package-management-on-freebsd/
01:24 TR Bot; New How-to Guide: Binary Package Management on FreeBSD | FreeBSD Foundation
01:26 TR News; Intel Releases First Arc Graphics Driver Package For Ubuntu https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-releases-first-arc-graphics-driver-package-for-ubuntu
01:26 TR Bot; Intel Releases First Arc Graphics Driver Package For Ubuntu | Tom's Hardware
01:28 TR News; BigTreeTech's CB1 Takes On Raspberry Pi CM4 | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/bigtreetech-cb1-compute-module Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/bigtreetech-cb1-compute-module
01:28 TR Bot; BigTreeTech's CB1 Takes On Raspberry Pi CM4 | Tom's Hardware
01:38 TR News; (NEW): Raspberry Pi Revives Tank Simulator from the 1970s http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Raspberry_Pi_Revives_Tank_Simulator_from_the_1970s.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Raspberry_Pi_Revives_Tank_Simulator_from_the_1970s.gmi
01:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Raspberry Pi Revives Tank Simulator from the 1970s
01:38 TR News; (NEW): FreeBSD News and Other BSDs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/FreeBSD_News_and_Other_BSDs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/FreeBSD_News_and_Other_BSDs.gmi
01:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines FreeBSD News and Other BSDs
01:38 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi
01:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
01:42 TR News; Gammath SPOT version 7.5 (beta) released on 21 October 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT
01:42 TR Bot; Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
01:43 TR News; the death of the meme https://feaneron.com/2022/10/21/the-death-of-the-meme/
01:43 TR Bot; the death of the meme Georges Stavracas
01:44 TR News; New Ellijay TV: Making Local TV Awesome Again https://tedium.co/2022/10/21/new-ellijay-tv-diy-tv-network/ Source: Tedium | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tedium.co/2022/10/21/new-ellijay-tv-diy-tv-network/
01:44 TR Bot; New Ellijay TV: Making Local TV Awesome Again
01:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I heard about the one where DuckDuckGo ignored a "qualified white male" application and went after the one that wasn't qualified and said they were a racial minority and may not even be in the country legally.
01:44 DaemonFC; Wanted them to come in for a job interview.
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; no skills needed
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's Microsoft
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; hosted by Microsoft
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; indexed by Microsoft
01:45 DaemonFC; Why would they hire someone who can't do anything there and doesn't even have permission from USCIS to be or work in the United States?
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; served by Microsoft
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; they are justa brand/eseller
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft proxy
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; some technical leaders there resigned in disgust
01:45 TR News; (NEW): Activity-aware Firefox 0.4.1 - Vastly improved through community collaboration http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Activity_aware_Firefox_0_4_1_Vastly_improved_through_community_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Activity_aware_Firefox_0_4_1_Vastly_improved_through_community_.gmi
01:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines Activity-aware Firefox 0.4.1 - Vastly improved through community collaboration
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; there are stil millions of fools who believe the "duck"
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; what da duck??
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; and worse yet,
01:46 DaemonFC; About the only thing Green Card holders can't do is vote or sit on a jury, and Illinois runs famously corrupt elections anyway, and most people consider jury duty to be an annoyance.
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; some browser devs who preload thisssss
01:46 schestowitz[TR]; maybe while taking microsoft bribes via DDG
01:46 DaemonFC; I don't know that citizenship is a goal of Mandy's. I'll support him on it if it is.
01:46 DaemonFC; But I mean, we'll see.
01:47 DaemonFC; I got jury duty papers once and I managed to get out of it.
01:47 DaemonFC; The Northern District of Indiana federal court.
01:48 DaemonFC; I mean, it was probably something I didn't want to do. I mean, you have to drive up there and sit and listen to something that could go on for weeks, they barely reimburse you for it. The judge might decide to trap everyone in a hotel romm with no TV.
01:49 DaemonFC; The whole point is to grind the jury down to where they return a guilty verdict just to get out of there and go home.
01:50 TR News; (NEW): Fedora: Facts, Weekly Update, and NeuroFedora http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Fedora_Facts_Weekly_Update_and_NeuroFedora.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Fedora_Facts_Weekly_Update_and_NeuroFedora.gmi
01:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora: Facts, Weekly Update, and NeuroFedora
01:51 TR News; (NEW): Linux Kernel: eBPF and Intel GPU http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Linux_Kernel_eBPF_and_Intel_GPU.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Linux_Kernel_eBPF_and_Intel_GPU.gmi
01:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel: eBPF and Intel GPU
01:52 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D736.jpg
01:52 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D391.jpg
01:59 TR News; Ubuntu 22.10 "Kinetic Kudu" Released! GNOME 43, GTK4 and MORE! (NEXT-GEN) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T3nxx40G7Ko | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/T3nxx40G7Ko
01:59 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.10 "Kinetic Kudu" Released! GNOME 43, GTK4 and MORE! (NEXT-GEN) - Invidious
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02:00 TR News; Links 21/10/2022: FSF on Privacy and digiKam Recipes 2022.10.21 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/digikam-recipes-2022-10-21/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/digikam-recipes-2022-10-21/
02:01 TR Bot; Links 21/10/2022: FSF on Privacy and digiKam Recipes 2022.10.21 | Techrights
02:02 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_leftovers.gmi
02:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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02:47 XRevan86; https://old.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/xxr1ai
02:47 TR Bot; Russian soldier joins the army to pay off debts incurred from stealing a credit card to buy World of Tanks DLCs and taking out payday loans to donate to an egirl. Gets captured. : NonCredibleDefense
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03:09 DaemonFC; [microsoft-edge]
03:09 DaemonFC; name=microsoft-edge
03:09 DaemonFC; baseurl=https://packages.microsoft.com/yumrepos/edge/
03:09 DaemonFC; enabled=0
03:09 DaemonFC; gpgcheck=1
03:09 TR Bot; Index of /yumrepos/edge/
03:09 DaemonFC; gpgkey=https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc
03:09 DaemonFC; LOL
03:10 DaemonFC; Their DNF Repo tells it to check a remote server that may be compromised by an attacker to check Edge to see if it's signed by, potentially, an attacker-modified GPG key.
03:10 resistor; sure, the key must be trusted
03:12 resistor; if you don't trust the key and retrieval method, lol what?
03:13 DaemonFC; They additionally used an outdated version of GPG to generate their public key.
03:13 DaemonFC; -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
03:13 DaemonFC; Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux)
03:13 resistor; i'm using gpg-1.4 too
03:13 resistor; and it's not outdated
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03:13 starstreak; https://edith.reisen/computers/security/forum_shills.html
03:13 TR Bot; Identifying Forum Agitators, PSYOPS & Shills
03:14 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], ^
03:14 DaemonFC; Stable2.3.7[1] Edit this on Wikidata / 11 July 2022
03:14 DaemonFC; LTS2.2.40[2] Edit this on Wikidata / 10 October 2022
03:14 DaemonFC; Legacy1.4.23[3] Edit this on Wikidata / 11 June 2018
03:14 resistor; wikipedia is in error
03:15 DaemonFC; So they used the Legacy branch of GPG to sign Microsoft Edge and point it at a Public Key that's generated using an outdated version.
03:15 DaemonFC; A key that can be modified remotely and DNF will trust whatever happens to be there.
03:15 DaemonFC; Well, that's Microsoft for you.
03:15 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
03:15 resistor; well, gpg-1.4 is a better choice in comparison to gpg-2
03:16 resistor; i won't migrate to gpg-2 and the gpgme nonsense
03:16 DaemonFC; The whole reason to import signing keys into RPM's database is so that when you bump the key and include the new version with an updated package, it's signed using the one the user has installed.
03:16 MinceR; just the usual standard of MICROS~1 practice
03:16 DaemonFC; An attacker who compromises Microsoft's server and replaced microsoft.asc can then replace Microsoft Edge with anything they want.
03:16 MinceR; see also: embedding a private key in a DLL for RDP
03:17 MinceR; (the same private key for everybody)
03:17 DaemonFC; And then as soon as users get the "update", it can actually be...anything, from the attacker.
03:18 resistor; that's a problem, private key must be hidden, wherever or however it's accomplished
03:19 DaemonFC; GPG says 1.4 branch is in "limited use" but they patch CVEs.
03:19 DaemonFC; THey do not recommend continuing to use it.
03:19 DaemonFC; The branch dates back to 2004.
03:19 resistor; anyway, the security of windows NT heavily relies upon on kerberized system, including IPSec etc
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03:20 resistor; and i think, that's difficult to break into from the outside, if correctly administered
03:20 DaemonFC; This is Edge for "Linux" as in the RPM file.
03:20 MinceR; lol
03:21 starstreak; Linucks
03:21 MinceR; aggi moved from spreading putinist propaganda to spreading MICROS~1 propaganda
03:21 resistor; i say gpg-1.4 is the better choice in comparison to gpg-2
03:22 resistor; and neither of those is a micros~1 product. so what?
03:22 resistor; i am still using gpg-1.4, intentionally, together with mutt
03:22 resistor; although i don't fully trust this setup, it's better than nothing
03:22 starstreak; resistor, you're insane
03:23 resistor; what's wrong with mutt and gpg-1.4? it's their "classic" integration of gpg, and it's good still
03:23 resistor; and gpg-1.4 has some other benefits, if need be
03:24 CrystalMath; resistor: i like the all-private-keys-in-one-file
03:24 CrystalMath; it's easier to back up
03:24 CrystalMath; so yeah there were nice things about gpg1
03:25 starstreak; i use evolution and gpg (GnuPG) 2.2.40
03:26 starstreak; btw
03:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/22/microsoft-edge-for-linux-uses-outdated-gpg-and-then-configures-it-to-silence-your-distributions-package-security-checks/
03:34 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge for Linux uses outdated GPG and then configures it to silence your distributions package security checks. | BaronHK's Rants
03:35 dope_dealer; another brain dead article
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03:54 resistor; 4 weeks, and i still can't calm down over the insanity in EU here
03:55 dope_dealer; thats because you are insane bro
03:55 DaemonFC; It's Hell on Earth every 5 minutes in some completely new way now.
03:57 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/10/21/1130705453/student-loan-cancellation-blocked-lawsuit-appeal
03:57 TR Bot; Student loan debt cancellation has been temporarily blocked by a federal court : NPR
03:58 DaemonFC; A federal court has halted Walmart workers having to pay taxes to prop up useless college degrees.
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 125.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.46
03:59 resistor; i mean, they are debating for weeks, "negotiate", for their "market"
03:59 resistor; what a nonsense is this, negotiating at a market without confirming any price to negotiate upon?
04:03 resistor; and since when government announced here to provide "emergency aid" with energy bills, they're sending all sorts of nonsense energy bills with any wish-thinked pricing in advance
04:07 resistor; imagine if you went to the petrol station, watched at the price, $8/gallon, you fuel your car, and when you pay they say to you
04:08 resistor; error buddy, while you walked in here to pay price already increased to $80/gallon
04:09 resistor; yet it's even crazier than this, because it's not at least obvious anymore, what the price was, and they can bill you backwards for almost a year, any gallon before you already contracted, all of the sudden is any other imaginary price
04:09 resistor; then they ask regress
04:12 resistor; then you say, hey, something is wrong here... err no, can't be, because we haven't neither confirmed any price nor the timespan this price applied to
04:13 resistor; then you see, allright, check the market data, that's still somewhere at $8/gallon as it has always been before, no but the price increased they say
04:13 resistor; to what? $80gallon again? when? how often?
04:14 resistor; then government comes along, hey buddy we'll help you. yes please, simply fucking tell me what the price is 1.80Euro/kWh?
04:14 resistor; or will it be then 3Euro/kWh?
04:14 resistor; government then says, nope buddy.... it's a "flexible corridor" and it's all "capped" to prevent "price peaks"
04:15 resistor; hey you, damn it... what's the fucking price?
04:15 starstreak; https://go.dev/dl/go1.19.2.linux-amd64.tar.gz
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04:18 resistor; now SexPartyBoJo announces his comeback, ComebackBoJo, he'll manage this.
04:18 resistor; "hey got some booze for ya"
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04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.76
05:00 reptilian_thrills; im higher than snoop and joe rogan in a hot air balloon
05:06 MinceR; hi higher than snoop and joe rogan in a hot air balloon, i'm dad
05:06 reptilian_thrills; Hi, Dad!
05:06 reptilian_thrills; thought you were dead
05:06 reptilian_thrills; but youre looking well
05:07 MinceR; :)
05:07 reptilian_thrills; /me always wonders how old mincer really is
05:07 reptilian_thrills; ^ NOT a boomer joke
05:08 reptilian_thrills; i assume youre at least older than roy
05:08 reptilian_thrills; that would make two of us
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05:24 MinceR; i don't know how old anyone here but me is
05:29 DaemonFC; http://forums.winamp.com/showpost.php?s=854e1ba0f48936e42bf9b312a5bbb90b&p=3163565&postcount=24
05:29 reptilian_thrills; if your first computer was a minivac, that would confirm starstreaks suspicions
05:29 reptilian_thrills; /me has used a minivac
05:29 DaemonFC; The new owner of Winamp lost all the MPEG licenses. So they replaced them with dependencies on Windows "Media Foundation", but the AAC encoder in Windows is crap. They had to stop including FHG AAC, but don't delete it on upgrade installs.
05:30 MinceR; reptilian_thrills: it wasn't
05:30 reptilian_thrills; /me shows the gnome people "look it has a gui!"
05:30 reptilian_thrills; "thats an indicator light"
05:30 reptilian_thrills; "yeah but its graphical"
05:30 reptilian_thrills; "no its binary"
05:31 reptilian_thrills; "its round! and red coloured"
05:31 reptilian_thrills; "look, its a gui, it has buttons you can click!"
05:31 reptilian_thrills; "those are actual pushbuttons"
05:31 reptilian_thrills; "you can still click them"
05:31 MinceR; the famous 1x1 pixel graphic display, eh?
05:31 reptilian_thrills; "you can press them"
05:31 MinceR; raster, even
05:32 reptilian_thrills; the famous 1x1 pixel graphic display, eh? <- it had at least six of them
05:32 reptilian_thrills; so technically, it was a one-sixel display :D
05:32 MinceR; lol
05:32 reptilian_thrills; i could have ported baph os to it
05:32 reptilian_thrills; it used actual relays
05:33 reptilian_thrills; dr sixel: "ve vill need a moment alone..."
05:33 reptilian_thrills; "but are you going to port"
05:33 reptilian_thrills; "PLEASE LEAVE US!"
05:35 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> raster, even <- you have to understand, this was before wesley snipes
05:36 resistor; that's another project, sixel-to-epson-raw-bitmap conversion, to support printing of DEC sixels onto Epson matrix printers
05:36 resistor; raw/native support
05:36 resistor; for example then, you can do gnuplot -makemesixel > /dev/lp0
05:36 resistor; cool
05:37 resistor; which is very useful, for scientific plots, and authoring
05:37 resistor; and doesn't require any fancy bloatware
05:37 resistor; because, sixels were intended for both, rasterizing onto screen, and plotting
05:38 resistor; and your computer terminal, when configured to let's say 80columns (or 120columns is possible too), then the output onto screen matches 100% what's printed onto matrix printer
05:40 resistor; however, i don't work for zero income
05:40 MinceR; Simon says: "Bleed."
05:40 resistor; yesterday morning, the HR person from EPA germany picked up the phone, i wanted to ask, hey please note my phone number
05:41 resistor; printing onto old-school matrix printers, that's cool, environmentally friendly, and too really usefull for report generation and protocol logs onto fanfreed paper
05:41 resistor; however, after 10days, refusing to pick up the phone and answering to my mail, this HR person said he couldn't see my application documents yet
05:41 resistor; and then i quit the conversation
05:43 resistor; arrogance and impolite, and their vacancy was full of german gender language (which is different to english, and ridiculous)
05:43 resistor; i think they prefer castrates or something in this government agency
05:43 resistor; and while i was thinking all this already, who cares
05:44 resistor; and the HR person at Telekom, who picked up phone after almost 10days, he didn't at least read my email yet, because in the subject it said software developer
05:44 resistor; and he said, he wasn't looking for software developers, they're SAP persons now at telekom
05:45 resistor; and then, politicians say, it's all my fault
05:45 resistor; i was lazy unproductive incompetivie dumb-fuck or something
05:53 resistor; the reasoning with EPA report formatting and plotting onto fanfeed, is long-term archival and retrieval of data
05:53 resistor; i mean, all the web-developmen app crap, just try to pick up some web-browser from year 2012 and navigate any w3c compliant stuff with this nowadays - bam, failed.
05:54 resistor; that's the difference, with sixels, and text, and vendor-independent and traditional report formatting
05:54 resistor; just a proposal, not a must-have
05:54 resistor; however this fascist in the EPA didn't bother at least to look into my documents after 10days(!)
05:55 resistor; that's a government agency funded with hundreds of millions of coins
05:55 resistor; and the Telekom one, although "privatized" nowadays, that's not much different
05:56 resistor; not to mention the fact, i enjoyed this type of conversation for more than 15years already, with them
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 134.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 108.43
06:04 DaemonFC; https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/ya2z1h/werewolf_form_bugged_outthis_is_the_worst_thing/
06:04 DaemonFC; Microsoft: Oh, we'll just bump the compiler again. What's the worst that could happen?
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06:44 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/monkeypox/2-chicago-residents-die-after-monkeypox-diagnosis/
06:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], It's baaaaaaack.
06:45 DaemonFC; https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/monkeypox/home.html
06:45 DaemonFC; "While anyone can get infected with MPV, it has primarily spread through close-knit social networks of gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM). Risk is especially high if you are a MSM who has multiple or anonymous sexual partners."
06:45 DaemonFC; Can spread through "hugging".
06:46 DaemonFC; Just in case there's anyone in Chicago you want to "hug".
06:47 DaemonFC; "Among more than 75,000 cases reported globally in the 2022 outbreak, there have been 32 reported deaths, according to the World Health Organization. The CDC said there have been five deaths in the U.S."
06:47 DaemonFC; Wow, five deaths since MAY!
06:47 DaemonFC; PANIC PANIC EXPERIMENTAL VACCINE!
06:48 DaemonFC; COVID is killing 500 per DAY and they're trying to panic about something that kills one American per month.
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06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 154.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 115.96
07:09 DaemonFC; https://investors.voltacharging.com/news/news-details/2022/Volta-Provides-Update-on-Business-Realignment/default.aspx
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07:28 TR News; "I also try to speedup and optimize my process a lot." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article932/painting-study | Source: David Revoy
07:28 TR Bot; painting study - David Revoy
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> COVID is killing 500 per DAY and they're trying to panic about something that kills one American per month.
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; no, more than 500 a day
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; my method
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; check death levels 2019
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; check 2022
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; take diff
07:30 schestowitz[TR]; divide by 365
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; it's almost 3k a day
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; 3k per day more than before pandemic
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; in the US alone
07:31 schestowitz[TR]; cause/s? You tell me..
07:31 DaemonFC; Offically, ~500 to COVID.
07:32 DaemonFC; Illinois government claims we're down to about 8-10 per day now.
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; .claims
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; government :-)
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; what are those other ~2500 deaths per day, more than iin prior years?
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; 2500 each day drowning in their baths?
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; cuicide?
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; post-covid-19 health issues?
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; *suicide
07:36 TR News; "Lorenzo Salvadore, on behalf of the status report team." https://www.freebsd.org/status/report-2022-07-2022-09/ | Source: FreeBSD
07:36 TR Bot; FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report Third Quarter 2022 | The FreeBSD Project
07:37 TR News; [Old] "And as if installing and configuring a new *NIX environment is not time consuming enough" http://www.saminiir.com/boot-arch-linux-from-pxe/ |
07:37 TR Bot; Booting Arch Linux from PXE (Raspberry Pi)
07:38 TR News; "run by Rolling Stones journalist Stewart Bran" https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/21/ai-lab-celebrates-50th-anniversary-of-intergalactic-spacewar-olympics/ | Source: uni Stanford
07:38 TR Bot; Stanford lab hosts Intergalactic Spacewar Olympics
07:38 TR News; "a sanctioned or accepted group or body of related works" http://www.bogieland.com/postings/post_canonux.php |
07:38 TR Bot; canon of user experience - BogieLand
07:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I found some off brand Chinese parts for my old Shark vacuum.
07:38 DaemonFC; Shark said they no longer supported this model.
07:40 TR News; "Elizabeth Mattijsen" https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/10/17/2022-42-grep-no-fear/ | Source: Rakulang
07:40 TR Bot; 2022.42 Grep no Fear Rakudo Weekly News
07:41 TR News; "All incidents, on the SHEFA-2 cable network, are thought to be related to fishing gear." https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2022/10/21/cable-fault-the-third-reported-in-waters-around-shetland-since-mid-september/ |
07:41 TR Bot; Cable fault the third reported in waters around Shetland since mid-September | Shetland News
07:41 TR News; [Old] "Good web site consultants know that you can't just jump in and start writing HTML" https://repo.zenk-security.com/Others/Information%20Architecture%20For%20The%20World%20Wide%20Web.pdf |
07:42 TR News; digital vegan https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58555929-digital-vegan
07:44 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> post-covid-19 health issues?
07:44 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> *suicide
07:44 DaemonFC; Oh who knows, Roy?
07:45 DaemonFC; Honestly, with what the Fox Lake Police did to me, my mind was going there for a while.
07:45 DaemonFC; That was before COVID.
07:46 TR News; "Experts fear that social media is leading people to put themselves at risk and approach dangerous animals for the perfect shot" https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Travel/woman-gored-bison-sparks-warnings-nature-lovers/story?id=91768853 | Source: ABC
07:46 TR Bot; Woman gored by bison sparks warnings for other nature-lovers - ABC News
07:48 TR News; [Old] "As one possible approach, we will store the GPG keyring as QR codes, print them on pape" https://www.saminiir.com/paper-storage-and-recovery-of-gpg-keys/ |
07:48 TR Bot; Paper storage and recovery of GPG keys
07:48 TR News; "To celebrate the $1,500 headset, Meta made some fun new additions to its privacy policy" https://gizmodo.com/meta-quest-pro-vr-headset-track-eyes-ads-facebook-1849654424 | Source: Gizmodo
07:48 TR Bot; Meta Quest Pro VR Headset Will Track Your Eyes for Targeted Ads
07:48 TR News; "Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton Thursday sued Google for allegedly collecting biometric data on millions of Texans" https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/10/texas-ag-sues-google-over-collection-of-facial-and-vocal-recognition-data/ | Source: JURIST
07:48 TR Bot; Texas AG sues Google over collection of facial and vocal recognition data - JURIST - News
07:48 DaemonFC; Ken Paxton is crazy.
07:48 DaemonFC; He's the Texas v. Pennsylvania guy.
07:52 reptilian_thrills; 3k per day more than before pandemic <- okay
07:52 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court would have loved to help Trump steal an election.
07:52 reptilian_thrills; 3k more than what? how much of an increase is that
07:52 DaemonFC; But they'd do it with their thumb on the scale, not just broad daylight theft right in front of everyone.
07:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/17/cdc-data-on-us-deaths/
07:53 TR Bot; Blog Archive CDC Data: US Deaths About 25% Higher This Winter Than Last Winter Before COVID-19 (Updated)
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07:54 reptilian_thrills; how often is the census done? by your numbers, the united states should be missing half a million people
07:55 reptilian_thrills; 3k per day? times 365 days per year?
07:55 reptilian_thrills; thats more than a quarter million
07:55 reptilian_thrills; 2021, 2022, thats what?
07:55 reptilian_thrills; half a million
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; jan0march
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; jan-march
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; cdc does not yet show more recent 2022 figures
07:56 reptilian_thrills; oh im just extrapolating from your figure.
07:56 reptilian_thrills; if its as bad as you say
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; I gavce links to CDC
07:56 schestowitz[TR]; those are not my figures
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; here, the increase is 10%
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; ireland 11%
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; auralia 17%
07:57 schestowitz[TR]; and I only checked countries that publish this data in english
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; canada has not published data for 20 months already
07:58 schestowitz[TR]; or 21 months
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07:58 reptilian_thrills; with these increases
07:58 reptilian_thrills; seems like we should be seeing more funerals everywhere
07:58 reptilian_thrills; or maybe people dont do funerals anymore
07:58 reptilian_thrills; i mean
07:58 reptilian_thrills; they go to restaurants
07:58 TR News; ByteDance https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/report-tiktok-bad-culling-us-election-misinformation-ads-91852756 | Source: ABC
07:58 TR Bot; Report: TikTok bad at culling US election misinformation ads - ABC News
07:59 reptilian_thrills; they go to bars, you see them in stores
07:59 reptilian_thrills; but no funerals, no more than a few years ago
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 99.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.28
07:59 reptilian_thrills; these are dramatic increases
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; i actually did readf commentary from the "death industry"
07:59 DaemonFC; <reptilian_thrills> how often is the census done? by your numbers, the united states should be missing half a million people
07:59 DaemonFC; Once per decade.
07:59 schestowitz[TR]; they say they do see an uptick
07:59 reptilian_thrills; they must be putting the bodies somewhere
08:00 schestowitz[TR]; butpeople's budget, here too, is a lot tighter
08:00 DaemonFC; Trump did it in the middle of COVID. It was such a disaster, we never got any Census forms. I had to log in and report our household without ANY contact from the Census Bureau.
08:00 DaemonFC; And nobody ever came out to check the motel, where at least 100 people lived.
08:00 reptilian_thrills; stick grandpa in a closet and spray some air freshener?
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; notice the csdc site
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; they try to hide the old data
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; I had to use waylback machine
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; twi
08:01 schestowitz[TR]; twice even
08:01 DaemonFC; They want to know what happened if you didn't file your taxes that year.
08:01 DaemonFC; But they don't want to know you exist in a motel in Waukegan.
08:01 reptilian_thrills; maybe theyre run by the fsf
08:01 reptilian_thrills; i know its not back to normal
08:01 reptilian_thrills; hospitals still work overtime
08:01 TR News; "Amnesty International Wednesday condemned the Pulitzer Prize-winning Kashmiri photojournalist" https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/10/amnesty-international-indian-authorities-must-end-arbitrary-travel-bans-on-journalists-and-activists/ | Source: JURIST
08:01 TR Bot; Amnesty International: Indian authorities must end arbitrary travel bans on journalists and activists - JURIST - News
08:02 DaemonFC; It makes it easier to rip you blind and then deny your city federal grant money later and give it to Republicans, which get overcounted because it's Trump's Census.
08:02 reptilian_thrills; the uptick you mention is with people taking zero precautions
08:02 DaemonFC; The Census Bureau career civil servants were slow walking the Census results so they didn't have to deliver them to Trump.
08:02 reptilian_thrills; precious few masks and no social distancing
08:03 TR News; [Old] "The degree of abuse by 'big tech' of our rights and our mental health, which is just coming to light now" https://cybermagazine.com/cyber-security/are-you-digital-vegan |
08:03 TR Bot; Are you a digital vegan? | Cyber Magazine
08:03 reptilian_thrills; there a still signs on the floors but no one pays attention
08:03 DaemonFC; Trump had ordered them to exclude illegal immigrants and most of the larger states have millions of them.
08:03 reptilian_thrills; at least the stores are not as packed
08:03 reptilian_thrills; but restaurants are still busy
08:03 reptilian_thrills; this may follow the 1900s one
08:03 reptilian_thrills; we are past the point where anyone gives a fuck about precautions
08:04 reptilian_thrills; so numbers still up-- but thats with NO precautions
08:04 reptilian_thrills; only vax
08:04 reptilian_thrills; that suggests either
08:04 reptilian_thrills; 1. its working
08:04 reptilian_thrills; 2. masks and distancing never helped
08:04 reptilian_thrills; or
08:04 reptilian_thrills; 3. everythings getting better regardless of the vax
08:05 reptilian_thrills; most likely its 1 + 3
08:05 reptilian_thrills; thats just a guess.
08:05 mjg59_; Probability of death is still *extremely* influenced by vaccination status (including boosters)
08:05 reptilian_thrills; 3 is based on what happened in the early 1900s
08:05 TR News; Facebook patents reveal how it intends to cash in on metaverse https://www.ft.com/content/76d40aac-034e-4e0b-95eb-c5d34146f647 ft paywall
08:05 TR Bot; Subscribe to read | Financial Times
08:05 reptilian_thrills; what you see now follows the pattern
08:05 TR News; microsoft should not even exist https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/microsoft-under-fire-for-response-to-leak-of-2-4tb-of-sensitive-customer-data/
08:05 TR Bot; Microsoft leaked 2.4TB of data belonging to sensitive customer. Critics are furious | Ars Technica
08:05 reptilian_thrills; when it was worse, masks saved lives. they still do.
08:05 TR News; snowden https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&u=https://itavisen.no/2022/10/19/snowden-advarer-norge-mot-overvakningsloven/
08:05 TR Bot; Snowden advarer Norge mot overvkningsloven - ITavisen
08:06 reptilian_thrills; but they worked better when more were wearing them
08:06 reptilian_thrills; in the 1900s, people took a long time to care
08:06 reptilian_thrills; then at its worst they cared for a while
08:06 reptilian_thrills; then they stopped caring, and it came back
08:07 reptilian_thrills; but they never got back to doing what was best
08:07 reptilian_thrills; and eventually it went away
08:07 reptilian_thrills; eventually
08:07 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Did you see my post about Edge?
08:07 reptilian_thrills; the numbers are up, but the precautions are WAY down
08:07 reptilian_thrills; so maybe, just maybe, its not as bad as it was
08:07 reptilian_thrills; but
08:07 mjg59_; A whole bunch of early 20th century apartment building heating issues are a direct result of the 1918 flu
08:07 DaemonFC; It sets up DNF to just quietly silence the signature check and trust that whatever is on the Microsoft server it points at for a Public Key is fine.
08:07 DaemonFC; :)
08:08 DaemonFC; What do you think about this?
08:08 reptilian_thrills; well ill take mjgs take on this over anyones elses
08:08 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Yeah so does the default COPR config
08:08 DaemonFC; I have literally NEVER seen a package do this.
08:08 reptilian_thrills; as long as the vax isnt saying something p r o b l e m a t i c
08:08 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Cool?
08:08 DaemonFC; Even Vivaldi and Opera import their Public Key locally.
08:08 reptilian_thrills; then id have to be more sceptical
08:09 TR News; GitHub Copilot May Steer Microsoft Into a Copyright Lawsuit - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/20/1833200 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/20/1833200
08:09 TR Bot; GitHub Copilot May Steer Microsoft Into a Copyright Lawsuit - SoylentNews
08:09 DaemonFC; This is bad practice on Microsoft's part, especially since they have shown they can't secure their own Web servers.
08:09 reptilian_thrills; its not like a trust the medical industry. but i do trust it more than average yokels and crude gossip
08:09 mjg59_; A bunch of apartment buildings in large US cities have unbearably high levels of heating in winter, because there was an assumption that you'd have the windows open all the time to improve ventilation so you don't get the flu
08:09 DaemonFC; Also, I don't use copr because I don't trust that there won't be malicious software from it even if it is signed. There's too many for Fedora to be checking them all.
08:10 DaemonFC; It's like PPAs. Don't do it.
08:10 reptilian_thrills; ahh yes
08:10 mjg59_; Then we stopped keeping windows open all the time and wondered why it was so fucking hot
08:10 DaemonFC; mjg59_, One of the reasons I don't use Mozilla VPN was because they don't bother to provide an RPM and it's literally some random guy with a copr.
08:11 mjg59_; Chicago is *awful* in this respect
08:11 DaemonFC; You don't know what he's putting in there. It's not Mozilla.
08:11 reptilian_thrills; in what aspect is chicago NOT awful
08:11 mjg59_; There's some excellent cocktail bars
08:11 mjg59_; You can actually get a train to the airport
08:11 reptilian_thrills; there would have to be
08:11 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> A bunch of apartment buildings in large US cities have unbearably high levels of heating in winter, because there was an assumption that you'd have the windows open all the time to improve ventilation so you don't get the flu
08:11 mjg59_; (well, one of the airports)
08:11 TR News; (NEW): PaperDE is a Touch-Friendly Linux Desktop Environment http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/PaperDE_is_a_Touch_Friendly_Linux_Desktop_Environment.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/PaperDE_is_a_Touch_Friendly_Linux_Desktop_Environment.gmi
08:11 reptilian_thrills; (lol)
08:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines PaperDE is a Touch-Friendly Linux Desktop Environment
08:11 DaemonFC; I had an apartment with boiler heating many years ago like this.
08:12 mjg59_; The river is kind of scenic
08:12 DaemonFC; Then I got home one morning and it was freezing and the landlord said they ripped the boiler system out without warning their tenants.
08:12 DaemonFC; It was in Indiana, so there's no slumlord law there.
08:12 reptilian_thrills; tourist board: come to chicago-- hell, we can pay you
08:12 reptilian_thrills; "just tell someone you werent miserable"
08:12 DaemonFC; So I went down to Walmart and came home with a oil filled radiator and plugged it in and had heat, and they screamed about their electric bill, and I ignored them and moved out over the course of a weekend.
08:12 mjg59_; I've never actually had a bad time in Chicago
08:12 reptilian_thrills; the band is good enough
08:13 reptilian_thrills; peter cetera
08:13 TR News; "With another major release from SEGA and Atlus now here with Persona 5 Royal" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/persona-5-royal-is-a-great-steam-deck-experience/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:13 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> I've never actually had a bad time in Chicago
08:13 TR Bot; 5 Royal is a great Steam Deck experience | GamingOnLinux
08:13 DaemonFC; So you've never had a gun pointed at you there like I have.
08:13 DaemonFC; Or like John did.
08:13 DaemonFC; They should have shot him.
08:13 DaemonFC; My life would have been improved greatly.
08:13 reptilian_thrills; I've never actually had a bad time in Chicago <- single data point
08:14 reptilian_thrills; ive mostly heard terrible things
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; Chicago has "good parts", too
08:14 DaemonFC; In the world where the guy just shot John I never would have had to go to court over that bullshit and then go bankrupt.
08:14 reptilian_thrills; who knows if theyre true
08:14 DaemonFC; But it is what it is.
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; DC is a gun capital
08:14 schestowitz[TR]; but I did not go to the rough places
08:14 TR News; "Ludeon Studios have just released a rather big expansion to the colony building sim RimWorld with Biotech" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/rimworld-biotech-and-the-free-14-update-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:14 TR Bot; - Biotech and the free 1.4 update out now | GamingOnLinux
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08:15 TR News; "Here's an interesting one I came across recently. It seems Valve are doing small hotfix releases of Proton" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/valve-doing-quick-hotfixes-in-proton-for-big-game-releases-on-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:15 TR Bot; doing quick hotfixes in Proton for big game releases on Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux
08:15 DaemonFC; There's a parallel world where they shot John and I went back to Indiana and never knew how badly it would have ended had he lived, and may have been sad about it.
08:15 reptilian_thrills; DC is a gun capital <- its where they keep the second amendment
08:15 DaemonFC; And then never met Mandy, I guess. So maybe it's better they didn't shoot John. I don't know.
08:15 reptilian_thrills; they used to keep the other ones there too
08:16 reptilian_thrills; but the 2nd amendment shot half of them
08:16 TR News; "Congratulations to Ubuntu community worldwide as Ubuntu 22.10 codenamed Kinetic Kudu has been released by Canonical on 20 October 2022." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/download-ubuntu-2210-kinetic-kudu-all-flavors-with-mirrors-torrents-and-checksums.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
08:16 reptilian_thrills; or the patriot act did
08:16 TR Bot; Download Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu All Flavors with Mirrors, Torrents and Checksums
08:16 TR News; "Valve has released another Steam Deck Beta and it's a rather interesting one" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-beta-adds-way-to-view-components-valve-confirms-fan-changes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:16 TR Bot; Deck Beta adds way to view components, Valve confirms fan changes | GamingOnLinux
08:16 DaemonFC; The way John described his attacker, it was a Mexican man with a revolver and a bag of marijuana.
08:16 reptilian_thrills; the 14th amendment was only half-written in the first place
08:16 DaemonFC; Mine was three black teenagers with a gun. Two of them held me and one pointed a gun and demanded everything I had.
08:17 TR News; "GMKtec has launched a MiniPC integrating the Celeron N4100 processor from Intel. The GMK NucBox 8 offers up to 6GB RAM, 128GB of eMMC, Wi-Fi5/BL4.2 and dual display support." https://linuxgizmos.com/gemini-lake-based-mini-pc-available-for-139/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
08:17 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/gemini-lake-based-mini-pc-available-for-139/ )
08:17 DaemonFC; I wonder how mjg59_ would have handled that.
08:17 DaemonFC; Maybe he would have come apart psychologically.
08:17 DaemonFC; We already know he said he "was" transphobic.
08:17 DaemonFC; Maybe he'd start having bad feelings towards black people and try to stay away from them.
08:17 DaemonFC; (Maybe he already does.)
08:19 TR News; FTC https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/ftc-eyes-integrating-right-to-repair-standards-into-existing-energy-saving-rules/ | Source: Techdirt
08:19 TR Bot; Eyes Integrating Right To Repair Standards Into Existing Energy Saving Rules | Techdirt
08:19 DaemonFC; Nothing good has happened to me in Illinois.
08:19 DaemonFC; The mugging isn't even the worst of it.
08:19 TR News; Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staf https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/report-elon-musk-plans-to-make-twitter-profitable-by-firing-75-of-the-staff/ | Source: Techdirt
08:19 TR Bot; Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staff | Techdirt
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 DaemonFC; The place is failed and it operates like a third world country.
08:21 DaemonFC; The Democrats don't want to jail black people so there's basically no laws anymore.
08:21 DaemonFC; The SAFE-T Act is what that's all about.
08:22 reptilian_thrills; /me checks how sane twitter is (its generally a disappointment)
08:22 DaemonFC; Soon it truly won't matter what they get caught with. Crack. An Uzi....
08:22 DaemonFC; Won't matter.
08:22 reptilian_thrills; Matthew Garrett @mjg59 22h Question: the Free Software Song says "We'll kick out those dirty licenses". Is this a rejection of licenses that constrain user freedom, or is a rejection of software being covered by copyright in the first place?
08:22 reptilian_thrills; 53% Evil licenses are bad
08:22 reptilian_thrills; 47% All licenses are bad
08:22 reptilian_thrills; 344 votes 1 hour
08:23 reptilian_thrills; it seems obvious enough to me
08:23 reptilian_thrills; now this one:
08:23 reptilian_thrills; Matthew Garrett @mjg59 12h Another question: would the world be better or worse if software weren't copyrightable?
08:23 reptilian_thrills; 68% Better
08:23 reptilian_thrills; 32% Worse
08:23 reptilian_thrills; 255 votes 11 hours
08:24 reptilian_thrills; its like asking which distro is best? debian ubuntu suse
08:24 reptilian_thrills; ill explain why i dont think this is a nitpick
08:24 reptilian_thrills; my first instinct is to agree with the notion that we would be better off if software wasnt copyrightable
08:24 mjg59_; Regardless of whether the question is sensible, it's a self-selected poll response to the results are meaningless
08:24 reptilian_thrills; remember, id be happy if there was no copyright at all
08:25 mjg59_; s/to/so/
08:25 reptilian_thrills; so ultimately i think we would be better off if software wasnt copyrightable
08:25 reptilian_thrills; ultimately
08:26 reptilian_thrills; i also think its better to wear shoes when going outside-- more of than not
08:26 reptilian_thrills; but if i put my shoes on first, im going to have a heck of a time getting my trousers on
08:26 mjg59_; A point that people brought up in response is that if software couldn't be copyrighted, SAAS solutions would probably be even more dominant than they are now
08:26 mjg59_; Doesn't matter if the code can't be copyrighted if you can never get at the code anyway
08:26 reptilian_thrills; SAAS solutions would probably be even more dominant than they are now <- i wonder how many of them realise that ndas were used to protect non-free software before it was copyrightable
08:27 reptilian_thrills; Doesn't matter if the code can't be copyrighted if you can never get at the code anyway <- this is what the nda achieveed
08:27 reptilian_thrills; stallman went to someone to get code and the author was like "sorry, under nda so i cant tell you"
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08:27 reptilian_thrills; at least according to one author this is what started the whole crusade
08:28 reptilian_thrills; but for some reason i think stallman disputes this. im not entirely clear on it.
08:28 reptilian_thrills; i believe it happened at the very least
08:28 reptilian_thrills; and i feel certain it was a factor
08:28 reptilian_thrills; ndas can be used instead of copyright
08:29 reptilian_thrills; and yeah, so can saas
08:29 reptilian_thrills; the problem with the question is simple
08:29 reptilian_thrills; i want a future with no copyright, including on software
08:30 reptilian_thrills; but which steps we take to get there, in which order-- WHEN and how we absolish copyright on software matters a great deal
08:30 DaemonFC; If mjg59_ was mugged at gunpoint by three "troubled youth" would he (1) shit himself (2) bog off back to Ireland (3) both?
08:30 reptilian_thrills; i dont necessarily think copilot is a good first step at all
08:30 reptilian_thrills; most people seem to be of the "lets do it and see what happens" camp or the "this is so great y u mad" camp
08:30 reptilian_thrills; or the "this will destroy free software forever" camp
08:31 reptilian_thrills; any of these camps could be right btw.
08:31 reptilian_thrills; but none of them seem very interested in the concerns of the other camps.
08:31 reptilian_thrills; the fsf seems uninterested in the possibilities-- which i sort of get
08:32 reptilian_thrills; the pro camp seems to find none of the concerns worthwhile
08:32 DaemonFC; Copyright shouldn't be abolished. The DMCA should be.
08:32 reptilian_thrills; every one is gung ho about doing nothing or doing something, no one seems reserved at all about their position
08:32 DaemonFC; They can't make DRM work so they threaten people who figure it out with prison time.
08:32 reptilian_thrills; i think we should be 1. careful and 2. strategic
08:32 reptilian_thrills; the latter implies that we do what WILL work and avoid what is foolish or arbitrary
08:32 reptilian_thrills; at least if thats possible
08:33 reptilian_thrills; but strategy comes down to more than "yes or no" wrt to "lets do this" usually
08:33 reptilian_thrills; thats what i dont like about the question itself
08:33 reptilian_thrills; its too simple
08:33 reptilian_thrills; when people say whats the best distro
08:33 reptilian_thrills; best for what?
08:34 reptilian_thrills; should we abolish copyright?
08:34 reptilian_thrills; YES
08:34 reptilian_thrills; but HOW should we do it
08:34 reptilian_thrills; if we arent going to get into that level of detail its a pretty careless thing to ask imo
08:34 reptilian_thrills; should we go to war? maybe
08:34 reptilian_thrills; with who?
08:35 reptilian_thrills; with rubber bands as our most sophisticated weapons? no
08:35 reptilian_thrills; not unless we are up against people with spitballs
08:36 reptilian_thrills; copyright made more sense when everything was paper
08:36 reptilian_thrills; its ridiculous now
08:37 reptilian_thrills; if you goal is really to abolish copyight, abolish corporations
08:38 DaemonFC; https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pfizer-sets-new-prices-for-its-covid-19-vaccines-the-cost-110-to-130-per-dose-11666358195
08:38 TR Bot; sets new prices for its COVID-19 vaccines. The cost? $110 to $130 per dose - MarketWatch
08:38 DaemonFC; What is "Novavax"?
08:38 reptilian_thrills; as long as we are talking about what stallmans position was about originally
08:38 DaemonFC; Nobody around here is offering that.
08:38 reptilian_thrills; the gnu manifesto seems more anticapitalist than the free software movement
08:39 reptilian_thrills; i mean, it gave zero fucks if a corporation was unhappy with free software
08:39 reptilian_thrills; the the fsf (and osi) are definitely more "pragmatic" about that
08:39 reptilian_thrills; i dont care THAT MUCH about the manifesto
08:39 reptilian_thrills; i care about the fsd
08:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I noticed it's possible to get Vivaldi to use Wayland. It just isn't the default.
08:40 DaemonFC; It's in the vivaldi:flags section.
08:40 reptilian_thrills; the manifest is like the declaration of indepedence
08:40 DaemonFC; You can also cause the compositor to use Vulkan instead of OpenGL.
08:40 reptilian_thrills; the fsd is like the constitution (for free sw)
08:40 reptilian_thrills; loose metaphor but somewhat illustrative imo
08:40 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: I don't think Copilot itself is necessarily something that benefits free software
08:41 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: But I worry that the obvious response to Copilot (ie, to argue that copyright should cover new things) is harmful to free software
08:41 reptilian_thrills; neither the manifesto or the declaration are really binding. the constitution is and the fsd has to be insomuch as youre making something free software
08:41 reptilian_thrills; I worry that the obvious response to Copilot (ie, to argue that copyright should cover new things) is harmful to free software <- the fsf seems mostly to react now anyway
08:41 reptilian_thrills; and it doesnt do a good job
08:42 reptilian_thrills; im appalled with it, and i have been for 7 or 8 years
08:42 reptilian_thrills; as for an even older comparison
08:42 reptilian_thrills; i left the fsf because i thought their position on free culture was harmful, both to free culture and to itself
08:42 mjg59_; Yeah the problem there is that the board influences the direction to a fairly meaningful degree, and the board's average age is far too high
08:42 reptilian_thrills; i mean i didnt renew my membership
08:42 DaemonFC; It looks like Costco in Gurnee has Novavax COVID-19 vaccine.
08:42 DaemonFC; Wonder what's different about it.
08:43 reptilian_thrills; the board's average age is far too high <- i agree with that much
08:43 reptilian_thrills; but what i said for years was "the fsf doesnt listen to its members"
08:43 reptilian_thrills; and this led to a coup
08:43 reptilian_thrills; i would have supported a coup, if it was reasonable enough.
08:44 reptilian_thrills; i dont mean perfectly reasonable. thats more of a turn of phrase than a description of reality
08:44 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Right now? Novavax delivers a protein, rather than either mRNA that encodes the protein or an inactivated virus that expresses the protein
08:44 DaemonFC; Side effects?
08:44 reptilian_thrills; a coup that really wanted to help the fsf move forward rather than tear it limb from limb, i would have been interested in.
08:45 mjg59_; DaemonFC: But also, the currently approved Novavax only covers the original covid strain, not Omicron - it's not a bivalent booster
08:45 DaemonFC; Mandy slept for like 3 days after that Pfizer bivalent one.
08:45 DaemonFC; I didn't like that. It scared me.
08:45 reptilian_thrills; in fact i called for one, but it was sheer rhetoric-- i knew no one would take it seriously or respond. but i was sincere.
08:45 reptilian_thrills; and then THE coup happened
08:45 reptilian_thrills; :/
08:45 mjg59_; DaemonFC: There are side effects, yes. It's not widely deployed enough yet to have strong insight into whether they're better or worse than other vaccines.
08:45 reptilian_thrills; it was definitely NOT the one i called for. it was nothing like it.
08:46 reptilian_thrills; which is why from day one ive condemned it
08:46 reptilian_thrills; if it was unlike the one i called for but GOOD i wouldnt have condemned that either
08:46 DaemonFC; Well, I mean side effects to a vaccine are a given. I just wondered if the mrna ones are especially rough or something.
08:46 reptilian_thrills; if there was a way to insert the word "coup" somewhere in the word "clusterfuck" that would be ideal
08:47 reptilian_thrills; but the coup was not unsuccessful
08:47 mjg59_; I don't think the issue was just failing to listen to members
08:47 reptilian_thrills; it was simply not good
08:47 mjg59_; It was that the membership already embodied the set of people that the FSF targets
08:47 reptilian_thrills; I don't think the issue was just failing to listen to member <- you were on the board, so maybe there was more to it than that
08:48 reptilian_thrills; at the time, i was farther outside and doing my best to guess wth was wrong.
08:48 mjg59_; And listening too much to the membership means you aren't listening to the people who *aren't* members - people who you're failing to convince, or even potentially alienating
08:48 reptilian_thrills; It was that the membership already embodied the set of people that the FSF targets <- maybe it wouldnt be so if open source hadnt poached the movement.
08:48 reptilian_thrills; idk
08:48 TR News; "Honestly, the only thing one can say about the whole Elon Musk buying Twitter situation is that you should expect the unexpected to happen." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/dont-expect-the-us-government-to-actually-stop-elon-from-buying-twitter/ | Source: Techdirt
08:48 TR Bot; Expect The US Government To Actually Stop Elon From Buying Twitter | Techdirt
08:48 DaemonFC; The problem with Free Software _is_ being a political movement outside of the software issues.
08:48 reptilian_thrills; or even potentially alienating <- well, heres the thing
08:48 reptilian_thrills; if you werent a member
08:49 DaemonFC; It's caused a lot of damage to the community and Microsoft encourages this and sends trolls to make it worse.
08:49 reptilian_thrills; and you became one
08:49 mjg59_; And, to be clear, the FSF *should* be alienating some people
08:49 reptilian_thrills; it didnt really make much difference
08:49 reptilian_thrills; the FSF *should* be alienating some people <- it should have fought harder against open source
08:49 DaemonFC; I really don't care what Stallman's politics are. He isn't in a position to make any of it happen.
08:49 reptilian_thrills; im particularly against forced marriage. i think its barbaric.
08:49 reptilian_thrills; i also think corporations are barbaric.
08:49 DaemonFC; He can do the same things I can. I can vote and I can talk to people.
08:49 reptilian_thrills; today, support of the fsf means entering a forced marriage, more or less.
08:50 DaemonFC; I don't agree with Stallman on a lot of issues, but he has the right to vote and talk to people.
08:50 reptilian_thrills; i give them my money, they help ibm obtain sweatshop labour.
08:50 mjg59_; A lot of the FSF campaigns were things that resonated with the FSF membership, and meant nothing to people who didn't have the background
08:50 TR News; Inflation https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/is-inflation-forcing-people-to-live-paycheck-to-paycheck/ | Source: Counter Punch
08:50 TR Bot; Inflation Forcing People to Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck? - CounterPunch.org
08:51 DaemonFC; "The lowest-paid workers have, on average, been seeing pay increases that exceed inflation."
08:51 reptilian_thrills; were things that resonated with the FSF membership <- that would be okay, if they were seeking to attract more people who "resonated with the membership"
08:51 TR News; Gaming https://truthout.org/articles/the-gaming-community-is-fed-up-with-corporate-greed-and-ripe-to-be-mobilized/ | Source: TruthOut
08:51 TR Bot; The Gaming Community Is Fed Up With Corporate Greed and Ripe to Be Mobilized
08:51 DaemonFC; LOL, sure.
08:51 reptilian_thrills; i believe the whole point of the membership programme was to move past an fsf that ran on stallmans grant money. thats what roy says anyway.
08:51 DaemonFC; "When you're down, that's where you'll stay."
08:51 DaemonFC; That basically sums up America these days.
08:51 TR News; "The Fifth Circuit is often the worst circuit when it comes to protecting constitutional rights." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/fifth-circuit-criticizes-pretextual-stops-after-cops-kill-a-man-because-his-kid-threw-a-candy-cane-out-of-a-car-window/ | Source: Techdirt
08:51 TR Bot; Circuit Criticizes Pretextual Stops After Cops Kill A Man Because His Kid Threw A Candy Cane Out Of A Car Window | Techdirt
08:51 reptilian_thrills; when roy says something that sounds reasonable and i dont have any data to counter it, sometimes i still consider its merit.
08:52 reptilian_thrills; it may be bullshit, idk
08:52 reptilian_thrills; it seems quite plausible nonetheless
08:52 mjg59_; The Defective By Design campaign ended up producing a bunch of posters that were basically women being tied up with ipod headphone cables, and, well, that didn't actually resonate terribly well with people who didn't already understand what they were trying to convey
08:52 TR News; Global Encryption Day https://blog.torproject.org/global-encryption-day-2022/ | Source: Tor
08:52 reptilian_thrills; or it could be half the story
08:52 TR Bot; Global Encryption Day: Demand End-to-End Encryption in DMs | The Tor Project
08:52 TR News; Misinformation https://www.propublica.org/article/misinformvation-vs-disinformation-midterm-election-guide | Source: Pro Publica
08:52 TR Bot; Misinformation vs. Disinformation: A Guide to the 2022 Midterms ProPublica
08:52 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> The Defective By Design campaign ended up producing a bunch of posters that were basically women being tied up with ipod headphone cables, and, well, that didn't actually resonate terribly well with people who didn't already understand what they were trying to convey
08:53 reptilian_thrills; women being tied up with ipod headphone cables <- that seems like a fail in this day and age.
08:53 DaemonFC; The iPod was one of the worst tech products of all time.
08:53 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: Oh, this was in the 2000s
08:53 reptilian_thrills; granted i was a member before 2016
08:53 DaemonFC; For some reason, a lot of people liked it.
08:53 mjg59_; But even then
08:53 reptilian_thrills; sure
08:53 DaemonFC; I would rate the iPod as "Worse than Windows Me.".
08:53 DaemonFC; It's between Windows Me and Internet Explorer 6.
08:53 reptilian_thrills; but by the mid 2010s it was far more tone-deaf than previously
08:53 mjg59_; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_by_Design#/media/File:Defectivebydesign_Ff_la1.jpg was, uh
08:53 TR Bot; Defective by Design - Wikipedia
08:54 reptilian_thrills; i mean
08:54 reptilian_thrills; i was a fan of rip a remix manifesto
08:54 mjg59_; It was a reference to the contemporary Apple advertising motif
08:54 reptilian_thrills; brett gaylor, mozilla
08:54 mjg59_; But it just kind of came off very wrong
08:54 reptilian_thrills; he went to mozilla AFTER making that i believe
08:54 reptilian_thrills; in rip remix, theres a clip (they borrowed it, they didnt create it)
08:54 Helenah; Is Inflation Forcing People to Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck?
08:55 reptilian_thrills; of a guy being chained to his music collection
08:55 reptilian_thrills; with literal chains
08:55 DaemonFC; LOL, someone did a bing wallpaper extension for GNOME.
08:55 reptilian_thrills; which i think is fine
08:55 reptilian_thrills; it had a lot of footage of doctor and lessig speaking-- in pretty easy to understand terms
08:56 reptilian_thrills; but what really fucked me off about dbd was
08:56 reptilian_thrills; they used by-nd
08:56 reptilian_thrills; so their materials were locked up with copyright instead of drm
08:56 mjg59_; Ok I think I've figured out what my actual problem is
08:56 reptilian_thrills; they werent free at all
08:56 mjg59_; The FSF can never express an opinion that RMS disagrees with
08:56 reptilian_thrills; stallmans "Works of opinions" schtick btw should he chucked into a live volcano.
08:57 mjg59_; Even if RMS's opinion is based on an outdated understanding of the world
08:57 reptilian_thrills; The FSF can never express an opinion that RMS disagrees with <- coming from anyone but you id be more sympathetic.
08:57 reptilian_thrills; well, ok, theres a list of people.
08:57 reptilian_thrills; but its not entirely UNTRUE is it?
08:58 Helenah; o.o
08:58 reptilian_thrills; still, coming from you...
08:58 Helenah; Is Inflation Forcing People to Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck?
08:58 reptilian_thrills; Helenah> Is Inflation Forcing People to Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck? <- idk
08:58 reptilian_thrills; eventually it would / probably?
08:58 TR News; "Ryan seems like an unlikely object of such caustic rhetoric." https://www.propublica.org/article/the-working-class-jobs-candidate-in-the-era-of-resentment | Source: Pro Publica
08:58 TR Bot; The Working-Class-Jobs Candidate in the Era of Resentment ProPublica
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 136.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.03
08:59 reptilian_thrills; (its hard to pull away from an mjg topic)
08:59 reptilian_thrills; (by design)
08:59 reptilian_thrills; then again "whats wrong with the fsf" is a topic that i think is highly fucking relevant to the movement and this channel (imo)
08:59 TR News; Steam Deck https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/direction-finding-with-help-from-the-steam-deck/ | Source: Hackaday
08:59 TR Bot; With Help From The Steam Deck | Hackaday
09:00 reptilian_thrills; Even if RMS's opinion is based on an outdated understanding of the world <- my issue with this is that its overplayed by open source
09:00 reptilian_thrills; its downplayed by the fsf.
09:00 reptilian_thrills; but for open source its like one of their favourite wedges
09:00 reptilian_thrills; oh theyre so OLD FASHIONED
09:01 reptilian_thrills; yeah well unix is better than windows, making it into windows wont be better.
09:01 reptilian_thrills; today we make it into windows and its shit. imo.
09:01 reptilian_thrills; but hey
09:01 reptilian_thrills; windows is a ripoff of mac which is a ripoff of xerox
09:01 reptilian_thrills; which is a ripoff of the ultimate demo. or if you like, an implementation.
09:02 reptilian_thrills; but mice go back to what, the 60s? as a concept
09:02 reptilian_thrills; theyre old!
09:02 reptilian_thrills; lets poke at everything with fat fingers on screens
09:02 Helenah; The Free Software Foundation vs Novell
09:02 reptilian_thrills; (i had a smartphone. i have a tablet. i had a nice laptop with a touchscreen i never used)
09:03 reptilian_thrills; i find touchscreens hateful. im not against them existing, im only against a monopoly
09:03 reptilian_thrills; theyre good for some people surely
09:04 Helenah; Touchscreens :3
09:05 reptilian_thrills; touchscreens make reparing laptops more prohibitively expensive
09:05 reptilian_thrills; if the screen is broken
09:05 Helenah; o.O
09:05 reptilian_thrills; if its a plain lcd its worth saving the laptop and getting a new screen
09:05 reptilian_thrills; if its got a digitiser, fuck it, its e-waste
09:06 reptilian_thrills; granted im using a laptop without a screen right now
09:06 reptilian_thrills; i have a screen. the laptop doesnt.
09:06 reptilian_thrills; its external
09:07 reptilian_thrills; theres no screen on the laptop
09:07 reptilian_thrills; its basically a very small desktop
09:08 reptilian_thrills; so you can salvage a laptop with a broken digitiser but the point is most wont-- because of cost
09:08 reptilian_thrills; so it really is e-waste
09:08 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: You know that glass house you're living in? How about I get you some stones!
09:08 reptilian_thrills; good for me (ill take it) but bad for the environment
09:09 reptilian_thrills; You know that glass house you're living in? How about I get you some stones! <- i dont follow
09:09 reptilian_thrills; digitisers are good for the environment and cost effective to replace, because of something about me personally?
09:09 reptilian_thrills; what are you saying here
09:10 TR News; ERRF https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/errf-22-recreator-3d-turns-trash-into-filament/ | Source: Hackaday
09:10 TR Bot; 22: Recreator 3D Turns Trash Into Filament | Hackaday
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09:11 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: Eh, what?
09:11 TR News; "Injection molding is usually focused on high-volume production, but that doesnt always need to be the case." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/hackaday-prize-2022-recycled-plastic-skateboard-decks-demonstrate-small-scale-injection-molding/ | Source: Hackaday
09:11 TR Bot; Prize 2022: Recycled Plastic Skateboard Decks Demonstrate Small-Scale Injection Molding | Hackaday
09:12 reptilian_thrills; Eh, what? <- i asked you first
09:12 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/irc-log-211022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/22/irc-log-211022/
09:12 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, October 21, 2022 | Techrights
09:12 reptilian_thrills; you said: reptilian_thrills: You know that glass house you're living in? How about I get you some stones!
09:12 TR News; New Fractal Images: - Mandelbrot 0002H gemini://gem.librehacker.com/fractals/mandelbrot/mand0002.png
09:12 reptilian_thrills; i dont know what youre referring to
09:12 Helenah; reptilian_thrills: I'm just cute as fuck
09:13 reptilian_thrills; you seem upset about something, but i (honestly) dont know whats bothering you about what i said.
09:13 TR News; "Hi there, I'm new here." Hi there, I'm new here.
09:13 reptilian_thrills; if i knew, i might be able to address it
09:13 Helenah; I do?
09:13 reptilian_thrills; am i wrong?
09:13 Helenah; I am happy. :3
09:13 Helenah; Hope you're happy too! :D
09:13 reptilian_thrills; okay, thats a use of that phrase im not familiar with
09:13 reptilian_thrills; but im (sincerely) glad youre happy
09:13 reptilian_thrills; i like you and if youre happy, its probably a good thing.
09:14 TR News; "Hi there, I'm new here." gemini://gda.smol.pub/gda Gemini growing. "2829 capsules" gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> I am happy. :3
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; <Helenah> Hope you're happy too! :D
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; sound rewference?
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; *song
09:14 reptilian_thrills; <Helenah> reptilian_thrills: I'm just cute as fuck <- i also think youre obviously a genius
09:14 reptilian_thrills; but sometimes it will go over my head.
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; happiness is important
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; irrespective of circumstances
09:15 reptilian_thrills; the greatest gift, that i possess
09:15 reptilian_thrills; oh thank the lord, that ive been blessed
09:15 reptilian_thrills; with more than my share of happiness
09:15 *Helenah gives no thanks to the lord
09:15 reptilian_thrills; (theme song to a classic british programme)
09:15 TR News; Neodriver https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/neodriver-ornament-brightens-up-christmas/ | Source: Hackaday
09:15 TR Bot; Ornament Brightens Up Christmas | Hackaday
09:16 reptilian_thrills; ACTION gives no thanks to the lord <- i think before he was the LORD he was the sun god
09:16 reptilian_thrills; obviously this is non-canon.
09:17 reptilian_thrills; jesus: lord
09:17 reptilian_thrills; krishna: lord
09:17 reptilian_thrills; michael flatley: lord
09:17 TR News; "retro gameplay" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/this-snappy-8-bit-microcomputer-brings-the-speed-to-retrocomputing/ | Source: Hackaday
09:17 TR Bot; Snappy 8-Bit Microcomputer Brings The Speed To Retrocomputing | Hackaday
09:17 Helenah; Retro computing doesn't need speed bringing to it... o.O
09:17 reptilian_thrills; at any rate thats how the song goes
09:18 Helenah; That's just.... FUCKIN' WEIRD!
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09:20 reptilian_thrills; ella marija lani yelich-o'connor: lorde
09:23 TR News; "I write and use a lot of Emacs Lisp but what I do even more, maybe two or three times more often, is to just make Unix filters to run on the region (with a prefix if I wanna replace the text)." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/unix-filter-on-region
09:24 TR News; Sloppy tree accessors gemini://idiomdrottning.org/sloppy-tree-accessors
09:26 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, RimWorld, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Games_Steam_Deck_RimWorld_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Games_Steam_Deck_RimWorld_and_More.gmi
09:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck, RimWorld, and More
09:29 TR News; "Editor-in-Chief Elliot Williams and Assignments Editor Kristina Panos rendezvoused in yet another secret" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/hackaday-podcast-190-fun-with-resin-printing-tiny-tanks-lo-fi-orchestra-and-deep-thoughts-with-al-williams/ | Source: Hackaday
09:29 TR Bot; Podcast 190: Fun With Resin Printing, Tiny Tanks, Lo-Fi Orchestra, And Deep Thoughts With Al Williams | Hackaday
09:30 TR News; Mississippi https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/mississippi-courts-are-helping-cops-keep-search-warrants-out-of-the-publics-hands/ | Source: Techdirt
09:30 TR Bot; Courts Are Helping Cops Keep Search Warrants Out Of The Publics Hands | Techdirt
09:37 TR News; "Women work for free in Hungary" https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/21/women-work-for-free-in-hungary-from-the-end-of-october | Source: Telex (Hungary)
09:37 TR Bot; Telex: Women work for free in Hungary from the end of October
09:38 TR News; Nuclear War https://truthout.org/articles/scientists-warn-nuclear-war-would-make-the-world-colder-darker-and-hungrier/ | Source: TruthOut
09:38 TR Bot; Scientists Warn Nuclear War Would Make the World Colder, Darker and Hungrier
09:38 TR News; pfizer is under a criminal investigation in europe already (afaik) https://truthout.org/articles/pfizer-price-gouges-by-charging-10000-percent-above-cost-for-us-covid-vaccine/ | Source: TruthOut
09:38 TR Bot; Pfizer Price-Gouges by Charging 10,000 Percent Above Cost for US COVID Vaccine
09:40 TR News; Plunder legalised https://truthout.org/articles/warren-condemns-all-trump-court-for-ruling-against-consumer-protection-agency/ | Source: TruthOut
09:40 TR Bot; Warren Condemns All-Trump Court for Ruling Against Consumer Protection Agency
09:44 TR News; "I felt for some seconds like an AI evaluating some schmos algorithmic desires" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/the-day-glo-elephant-in-a-darkening-room/ | Source: Counter Punch
09:44 TR Bot; Day-Glo Elephant in a Darkening Room - CounterPunch.org
09:44 TR News; Pfizer https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/21/daylight-robbery-pfizer-condemned-hiking-us-covid-vaccine-price-10000-above-cost | Source: Common Dreams
09:44 TR Bot; 'Daylight Robbery': Pfizer Condemned for Hiking US Covid Vaccine Price by 10,000% Above Cost
09:46 TR News; Journalism https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/21/journalisms-bad-bargain | Source: Common Dreams
09:46 TR Bot; Opinion | Journalism's Bad Bargain | Sanjay Jolly
09:47 TR News; "The season finale of HBO's "House of the Dragon" has leaked online, two days ahead of its official premiere." https://torrentfreak.com/house-of-the-dragon-season-finale-leaks-early-on-pirate-sites-221021/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:47 TR Bot; of The Dragon Season Finale Leaks Early on Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
09:47 TR News; EU https://torrentfreak.com/streaming-services-are-not-liable-for-vpn-pirates-ag-concludes-221021/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:47 TR Bot; Opinion: Streaming Services Are Not Liable for VPN 'Pirates' * TorrentFreak
09:47 TR News; Food Insufficiency Up 25% https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/21/food-insufficiency-25-manchin-gop-killed-child-tax-credit-boost | Source: Common Dreams
09:47 TR Bot; Food Insufficiency Up 25% Since Manchin, GOP Killed Child Tax Credit Boost
09:48 TR News; debt https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/21/appeals-court-temporarily-blocks-student-debt-cancellation-program | Source: Common Dreams
09:48 TR Bot; Appeals Court Temporarily Blocks Student Debt Cancellation Program
09:49 TR News; Only Class Struggle Can Save the Left https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/21/only-class-struggle-can-save-left | Source: Common Dreams
09:49 TR Bot; Opinion | Only Class Struggle Can Save the Left | Chris Wright
09:49 TR News; Kroger Goes From Supermarket to Superpower https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/21/kroger-goes-supermarket-superpower | Source: Common Dreams
09:49 TR Bot; Opinion | Kroger Goes From Supermarket to Superpower | Dylan Gyauch-Lewis
09:50 TR News; NCCC https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/21/despite-record-profits-rail-companies-reject-unions-demand-paid-sick-leave | Source: Common Dreams
09:50 TR Bot; Despite Record Profits, Rail Companies Reject Union's Demand for Paid Sick Leave
09:50 TR News; Social Security https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/21/save-social-security-and-medicare-democrats-urged-head-gop-debt-limit-ploy | Source: Common Dreams
09:50 TR Bot; To Save Social Security and Medicare, Democrats Urged to Head Off GOP Debt Limit Ploy
09:55 TR News; "Turkish banks have started making it more difficult for Russians who arrived after the start of Putins mobilization campaign to sign up for payment cards" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/21/rbk-tired-turkish-bank-workers-have-imposed-new-barriers-on-opening-accounts-for-russians | Source: Meduza
09:55 TR Bot; NO TITLE
09:56 TR News; WikiLeaks https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/21/political-fix-needed-for-wikileaks-assange-lawyer/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:56 TR Bot; Fix' Needed for WikiLeaks' AssangeLawyer - scheerpost.com
10:10 TR News; "As landlords continue their relentless pursuit of profits" https://fair.org/home/media-narratives-shield-landlords-from-a-crisis-of-their-own-making/ | Source: FAIR
10:10 TR Bot; Media Narratives Shield Landlords From a Crisis of Their Own Making - FAIR
10:18 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Even if RMS's opinion is based on an outdated understanding of the world
10:19 DaemonFC; Which part of that world was outdated? The fact that groomers and sex freaks weren't exploiting children openly and taunting normals that they couldn't do anything about it?
10:19 DaemonFC; I could ride my bicycle, safely, anywhere I wanted to go in the county.
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 DaemonFC; Nobody was going to "snatch" me or shoot me off the bicycle.
10:20 DaemonFC; Today, Marion, Indiana is little Chicago.
10:20 DaemonFC; There was a 15 year old shot off his bicycle a few blocks from where I went to school, which was a safe neighborhood in the 90s.
10:20 DaemonFC; It was in the news about a year ago.
10:21 DaemonFC; 20 years ago, RCA was there and it was a very prosperous side of town.
10:21 DaemonFC; mjg59_ thinks it's funny to call people who are suffering "basket of deplorables" at his little $50,000 a plate Hillary Clinton fundraising dinners.
10:22 DaemonFC; Doesn't get that's why Trump won.
10:22 DaemonFC; Doesn't get that's why Trump will be back.
10:22 DaemonFC; Doesn't get that's why his "partner"'s days are numbered before we have a National Bathroom Bill and such.
10:23 DaemonFC; Democrats writing off half the country, leaving them to suffer and get angrier by the minute....won't end well.
10:24 DaemonFC; They think it's funny now. Stacey Abrams says go kill your baby if you're worried what gas costs.
10:24 DaemonFC; She's not going to win Georgia like that. She's not going to be the Governor of jack shit with that platform.
10:25 DaemonFC; A lot of black people don't like baby killing and they won't like being reminded how it's the only thing Democrats want to talk about because they've left blacks and the working class whites hanging high and dry.
10:26 DaemonFC; The Democrats think baby killing is a winner. It's only a winner when you're dealing with sick and depraved people.
10:26 DaemonFC; They think that's the only issue they have to run on.
10:27 DaemonFC; There's two ways the Eighth Circuit stopping Biden's "buy off $250,000 income households with taxes from people making $50,000" "student loan forgiveness" goes.
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10:28 DaemonFC; Biden is basically handing $10,000 in "forgiveness" to people who make 25 times that much money in a year.
10:28 DaemonFC; Why?
10:28 DaemonFC; Vote buying.
10:28 DaemonFC; I hope the Supreme Court takes this up and stops it permanently.
10:29 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, well Biden is bailing out six figure households, we have people eating out of the trash at the Metra stations.
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12:11 TR News; "Dr. Nomi Prins examines the games the wealthy elites play while the 99% suffer." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/21/nomi-prins-how-the-federal-reserve-and-allied-central-bankers-wrote-the-obituary-for-competitive-capitalism/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:11 TR Bot; Prins: How the Federal Reserve and Allied Central Bankers Wrote the Obituary for Competitive Capitalism - scheerpost.com
12:11 TR News; "Jake Johnson reports on responses from vaccine equity activists on Pfizer's latest move to increase Covid-19 vaccine prices." https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/21/pfizer-condemned-for-hiking-us-covid-vaccine-price-by-10000-above-cost/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:11 TR Bot; Condemned for Hiking US Covid Vaccine Price by 10,000% Above Cost - scheerpost.com
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:40 TR News; RealPage https://www.propublica.org/article/realpage-accused-of-collusion-in-new-lawsuit | Source: Pro Publica
12:40 TR Bot; Lawsuit Filed Against RealPage After ProPublica Investigation ProPublica
12:49 TR News; Spyhome needs a protocol? For you or for the spy? https://www.maketecheasier.com/smart-home/thread-protocol/
12:49 TR Bot; Everything You Need to Know About the Thread Protocol for Smart Home Devices - Make Tech Easier
12:53 psydruid; > [notice] Pfizer Condemned for Hiking US Covid Vaccine Price by 10,000% Above Cost - scheerpost.com
12:53 psydruid; How to prop up failed companies from a failed country
12:54 TR News; How Important is Learning Linux? @DuAn Lightfoot #labeveryday - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7Yr_Pa5Oyy8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/7Yr_Pa5Oyy8
12:54 TR Bot; How Important is Learning Linux? @DuAn Lightfoot #labeveryday - Invidious
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; EU: https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/21/pfizer-secrecy/
12:54 TR Bot; Blog Archive Pfizer Refuses to Explain What Its Selling
12:58 TR News; Robo-fish filters microplastics like a whale with krill | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/22/robo-fish-filters-microplastics-like-a-whale-with-krill/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/22/robo-fish-filters-microplastics-like-a-whale-with-krill/
12:58 TR Bot; Robo-fish filters microplastics like a whale with krill | Arduino Blog
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13:01 TR News; Sending all your mouse movements, key presses etc. to the CIA via GAFAM. Is THIS how you wish to use GNU/Linux? Clown computing is INSANE. https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/10/22/red-hat-enterprise-linux-aws/
13:01 TR Bot; Red Hat releases Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Workstations on AWS - Help Net Security
13:01 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_howtos.gmi
13:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
13:07 TR News; Microsoft Edge for Linux Uses Outdated GPG and Then Configures it to Silence Your Distributions Package Security Checks | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/microsoft-edge-is-malware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/22/microsoft-edge-is-malware/
13:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge for Linux Uses Outdated GPG and Then Configures it to Silence Your Distributions Package Security Checks | Techrights
13:08 TR News; Gymnasticon: Turn Obsolete Indoor Bikes Live with Raspberry Pi https://medevel.com/gymnasticon-indoor-cycling/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/gymnasticon-indoor-cycling/
13:09 TR Bot; Gymnasticon: Turn Obsolete Indoor Bikes Live with Raspberry Pi
13:09 TR News; "WCH CH32V003 is a new ultra cheap RISC-V microcontroller (MCU) clocked at 48 MHz with 2KB SRAM, 16KB flash, and a bunch of interfaces that sells for under 10 cents in quantities." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/22/10-cents-ch32v003-risc-v-mcu-offers-2kb-sram-16kb-flash-in-sop8-to-qfn20-packages/
13:09 TR Bot; 10 cents CH32V003 RISC-V MCU offers 2KB SRAM, 16KB flash in SOP8 to QFN20 packages - CNX Software
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:23 TR News; OpenSource.com is Compromised, Leveraged to Promote Windows and Microsoft Vendor Lock-in Instead of Open Source | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/opensource-dot-com-compromised/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/22/opensource-dot-com-compromised/
13:23 TR Bot; OpenSource.com is Compromised, Leveraged to Promote Windows and Microsoft Vendor Lock-in Instead of Open Source | Techrights
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14:16 TR News; (NEW): Devices: RISC-V, Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Devices_RISC_V_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Devices_RISC_V_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.gmi
14:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines Devices: RISC-V, Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:21 TR News; (NEW): Leftovers: Proprietary Blunders, Global Encryption Day, Spied-on Workstations [sic] on AWS, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/y.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/y.gmi
14:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Leftovers: Proprietary Blunders, Global Encryption Day, Spied-on Workstations [sic] on AWS, and More
14:22 TR News; Working for Microsoft is "dream job"? Crime is whose dream? Seems like sociopaths magnet. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jk5NXA4
14:22 TR Bot; This is my dream job - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
14:24 psydruid; I hope that person's dream will turn out to be that person's worst nightmare ever
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/matchday/fixtures/mens/2022/man-city-v-brighton-22-oct-2022
14:24 TR Bot; Man City v Brighton - 22 Oct 2022 Man City - Offical Club website.
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; one heck of a starting lineup
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; a billion dollar lineup
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: layoffs
14:25 psydruid; Liverpool has just lost
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; oh, did it?
14:25 *schestowitz[TR] checks
14:25 psydruid; yes
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; and arsenal played? yet?
14:25 psydruid; probably tomorrow
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; just told rianne
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; she's laughing
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; she hates LFC with a passion
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; oh, Saints tomorrow
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; the big match is 5:30pm
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://resources.premierleague.com/photos/premierleague/photo/2022/10/22/0d669fbe-09bb-466d-aade-02bedb9de015/2022-10-22T131835Z_1369924617_UP1EIAM10YW73_RTRMADP_3_SOCCER-ENGLAND-NTG-LIV-REPORT.JPG?width=1350&height=759
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; grabs head
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.premierleague.com/matchweek/7843/blog
14:27 TR Bot; Premier League Live Scores, Stats & Blog | Matchweek 13 | 2022/23
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; facepalm by the start top of page
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; lost to NFO
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; seems ManCity is the only club they can still beat
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; oh, lingard is in nfo now? on loan?
14:28 psydruid; this is Liverpool in its sunset phase
14:29 psydruid; Man United is finding its way back slowly but surely
14:29 psydruid; now that they finally have a good coach again
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, LFC like ManUtd in 2012
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; or LFC of the 1980s
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; on the tech side:
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; it's getting very hard to attend a game anonymously
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; due to restrictions never properly lifted
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; I think even if you buy with scalpersd
14:31 schestowitz[TR]; they MIGHT still want to see some ID
14:32 psydruid; you used to be able to attend games buying anonymous tickets
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; and Mancity started email spamming campaigns
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; which theyh never did before
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; leveraging their ocntacts DB to sent unwanted promotional emails
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; and their siteee is broken
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; so you cannot opt out
14:32 psydruid; I must say I attended a game for the last time in 1996 or so
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; I trrries several browsers
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; *tried
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; today I walked pass a pastry store where they now refuse to take cash
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; since the covid-19 hysteria
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; which was justified
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; but cash payments were NOT the issue
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; masks and distancing matered
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; so now to get a bottle of water or some ***ing pastry you need to give an ID
14:34 psydruid; I has such an experience at a local supermarket two days ago as well
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; we were shocked the first time
14:34 psydruid; the cashier reluctantly accepted cash
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; we refused to present an ID like a debit card
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; and just left
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; midway through the order
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; give then a dirty look for refusing to accept it
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; and don't accept their dirty look for refusing to give them IS, presenting a card to buy some chewing gum
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; "what aere you, building a chewers' dataabse?"
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; "here's my bartering, which is federally approved, now give me what you're offering on sale"
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; some people just leave the coins
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; putting them down
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; and taking the item
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; technically they do pay for them
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; how the shop then handles the payment is the shop's problem
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; then the local media tries to paint the buyer as conspiracy nut
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; for paying with cash
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; and taking the item paid for
14:40 psydruid; I usually still pay with cash
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14:52 schestowitz[TR]; are you a a terrorist, psydruid? WHAT's IN YOUR FRIDGE !!
14:53 psydruid; schestowitz[TR]: I terrorise the terrorists in power!!
14:53 schestowitz[TR]; terrorists always start by hiding cheese inside their fridge
14:54 schestowitz[TR]; it goes downhill from there
14:54 schestowitz[TR]; police should order a "fridge raid" on their homes
14:55 schestowitz[TR]; to get inventories of foods purchased with CASH
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 148.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 118.91
15:09 TR News; (NEW): KDE Ltinerary: An Amazing Travel Assistant That Cares about Your Privacy http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/KDE_Ltinerary_An_Amazing_Travel_Assistant_That_Cares_about_Your.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/KDE_Ltinerary_An_Amazing_Travel_Assistant_That_Cares_about_Your.gmi
15:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Ltinerary: An Amazing Travel Assistant That Cares about Your Privacy
15:09 TR News; (NEW): This week in KDE: UI improvements abound http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/This_week_in_KDE_UI_improvements_abound.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/This_week_in_KDE_UI_improvements_abound.gmi
15:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines This week in KDE: UI improvements abound
15:10 TR News; The video above was published less than a day ago; we reproduce it in a Free format and we may post links near to the time of the talk (4 days from now) http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/richard-stallman-hyderabad/
15:10 TR Bot; EML IIT Hyderabad to Host Richard Matthew Stallman (RMS) This Coming Week | Techrights
15:10 TR News; Phoronix has a deepening conflict of interest problem; this means it cannot be relied upon for objective reviews anymore http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/phoronix-is-not-independent/
15:10 TR Bot; Cannot Trust Todays Phoronix | Techrights
15:11 TR News; Neither Red Hat Inc., the main sponsor for theCUBEs event coverage, nor other sponsors have editorial control over content on theCUBE or SiliconANGLE. http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/siliconangle-red-hat-ibm/
15:11 TR Bot; SiliconANGLE is Selling Coverage (Fake Journalism) | Techrights
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15:16 MinceR; 22 093909 < reptilian_thrills> i mean, it gave zero fucks if a corporation was unhappy with free software
15:16 MinceR; on the flip side, the fsf gives zero fucks if a user is unhappy with the OSPS they push
15:18 MinceR; 22 100033 < reptilian_thrills> oh theyre so OLD FASHIONED
15:18 MinceR; working computers are so old-fashioned
15:19 MinceR; malware-ridden unusable garbage is "modern", "hip" and "cool"
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; computinjg is odl
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; *odl
15:19 schestowitz[TR]; >old
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15:19 MinceR; also, as windows nt is derived from vms, which is older than unix, they shouldn't worship windows so much
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 MinceR; maybe i'm remembering that wrong
15:21 psydruid; VMS is from the late 70s, I think
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15:21 psydruid; there isn't much to worship in windows anyway
15:21 psydruid; if anything, it's a third-rate copy of VMS
15:24 TR News; Links 22/10/2022: Global Encryption Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/global-encryption-day-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/22/global-encryption-day-2022/
15:24 TR Bot; Links 22/10/2022: Global Encryption Day | Techrights
15:30 MinceR; and yet people like poettering love its "design" so much
15:35 TR News; Judge in the morning, lawyer in the afternoon http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/
15:35 TR Bot; The UPC - Hopes and Headaches - Kluwer Patent Blog
15:38 TR News; "That was the same criticism for ISDS tribunals, judges in the morning, lawyers in the afternoon. Boosters will find a way to argue both jobs are compatible." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 14.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 111.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 115.11
17:03 MinceR; (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Hello-Gaysha-909219524
17:03 TR Bot; Gaysha by FurLined on DeviantArt
17:06 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cPm-Hf30Iew
17:06 TR Bot; Manchester City vs Brighton 3-1 - Extndd Hghlghts & All Gals 2022 HD - Invidious
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:22 TR News; Persona 5 Royal on Steam Deck! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0E3kYukCTaQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/0E3kYukCTaQ
17:23 TR Bot; Persona 5 Royal on Steam Deck! - Invidious
17:23 TR News; Catching up with LeftWM: The TWM for Rust Fans - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_IhpLsVbFKo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/_IhpLsVbFKo
17:23 reptilian_thrills; /furlined/
17:23 TR Bot; Catching up with LeftWM: The TWM for Rust Fans - Invidious
17:23 reptilian_thrills; furlein = german furries?
17:24 reptilian_thrills; german furry to girl: "furlein, comanzie"
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17:24 reptilian_thrills; bitte
17:25 reptilian_thrills; /me summoned a cat
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17:28 reptilian_thrills; i went to the an-com hospital with an ingrown toenail, to see if they could fix it up
17:29 reptilian_thrills; they all threw bottles and rocks at it, and said my foot was toxic and ultimately decided i was better off dead than giving a platform to a nail that was problematic
17:29 reptilian_thrills; so i went to a marxist hospital
17:30 reptilian_thrills; they took everyones organs and limbs and redistributed them according to peoples needs. though they didnt fix the toenail at all, because it wasnt that important
17:30 reptilian_thrills; at least to them
17:30 reptilian_thrills; so i went to the capitalist hospital
17:30 reptilian_thrills; and they did medical experiements and sold me off in parts
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17:32 reptilian_thrills; plus the charged me for the work they did
17:37 reptilian_thrills; i thought about going to a stalinist hospital, but i heard about those
17:38 reptilian_thrills; one guy went in with an ingrown toenail, so they cut off his toe and amputated the rest, then had him shot for complaining to the people running the hospital
17:38 reptilian_thrills; but he got to keep the toe
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17:49 TR News; Next Casualty of IBM: Red Hats Free Software-Centric Web Sites | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/ibm-hr-blunder/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/22/ibm-hr-blunder/
17:49 TR Bot; Next Casualty of IBM: Red Hats Free Software-Centric Web Sites | Techrights
17:52 TR News; "This should be totally forbidden, it's playing with fire" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_WTZo9ieBKY
17:52 TR Bot; New Boston virus - Invidious
17:54 TR News; Video: MiSTer FPGA Sega Saturn core WIP update Oct 2022 http://www.montanalinux.org/video-mister-sega-saturn-wip-update-oct-2022.html
17:54 TR Bot; MiSTer FPGA Sega Saturn core WIP update Oct 2022 | www.montanalinux.org
17:57 TR News; SpellBinding UGINPSC Wordo: MAHUA gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-22.gmi
17:58 TR News; New Fractal Images Mandelbrot 0002H gemini://gem.librehacker.com/fractals/mandelbrot/mand0002.png
17:58 TR News; zshbrev gemini://idiomdrottning.org/zshbrev
18:08 TR News; Tries to associate a Windows problem, ransomware, with "Linux", even though it's hard to actually install this thing on GNU/Linux https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4058606/oldgremlin-targets-russia-debuts-linux-ransomware
18:08 TR Bot; OldGremlin, which targets Russia, debuts new Linux ransomware
18:10 TR News; What is a Raspberry Pi used for? https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/tip/What-is-a-Raspberry-Pi-used-for
18:10 TR Bot; What is a Raspberry Pi used for?
18:12 TR News; Research That Should be Banned https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/22/boston-university-stupidity/
18:12 TR Bot; Blog Archive Research That Should be Banned
18:13 TR News; "Microsoft Edge for Linux uses outdated GPG and then configures it to silence your distributions package security checks." http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/microsoft-edge-is-malware/
18:13 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge for Linux Uses Outdated GPG and Then Configures it to Silence Your Distributions Package Security Checks | Techrights
18:13 TR News; This mornings featured/leading article in OpenSource.com is a symptom of what the Web site OpenSource.com is becoming http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/opensource-dot-com-compromised/
18:13 TR Bot; OpenSource.com is Compromised, Leveraged to Promote Windows and Microsoft Vendor Lock-in Instead of Open Source | Techrights
18:13 TR News; Red Hats longstanding and long-established Web sites are becoming more proprietary as they abandon their original focus and adherence to standards; worse yet, they promote proprietary stuff for Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/ibm-hr-blunder/
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:36 starstreak; https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/dog-telepathy
18:36 TR Bot; How a Soviet Circus Clown Tried to Prove That Dogs Can Be Psychic - Atlas Obscura
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19:17 starstreak; Microsoft made a wicked pride flag: https://github.com/microsoft/Pride-flag?ocid=FY23_soc_omc_br_tw_PrideFlag
19:18 TR Bot; - microsoft/Pride-flag: Pride flag featuring 40 individual LGBTQIA+ flags
19:18 reptilian_thrills; microsoft are actual nazis, pretending to support pride like roy pretends to be neutral or supportive of openbsd
19:19 reptilian_thrills; theyre using this to get fewer people to boycott them
19:19 reptilian_thrills; and more people to give them money. this is just marketing.
19:19 reptilian_thrills; the message is fine. the source is bs though.
19:19 reptilian_thrills; collaborating with microsoft is a bad thing. im not trying to cancel the people who did-- natalie wynn collaborated with hillary fucking clinton (war criminal) and i love her anyway.
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 reptilian_thrills; but that doesnt make it a good thing to do.
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19:23 reptilian_thrills; i also want to point out how cynical the choice of license is
19:23 reptilian_thrills; this is an nc license-- being used to promote microsoft.
19:23 reptilian_thrills; that means
19:23 reptilian_thrills; 1. its non-free
19:23 reptilian_thrills; 2. MICROSOFT can make money from it
19:23 reptilian_thrills; 3. but YOU cant
19:23 reptilian_thrills; this is not microsoft supporting a community
19:24 reptilian_thrills; this is microsoft exploiting and taking partial ownership of a community
19:24 reptilian_thrills; they are more free to use this flag than you are.
19:24 reptilian_thrills; thats a huge fuck-you.
19:24 reptilian_thrills; #justsaying
19:24 starstreak; fair enough
19:24 reptilian_thrills; nc: more free for corporations than people
19:24 reptilian_thrills; its supposed to be the opposite
19:24 reptilian_thrills; nc is bs
19:24 starstreak; i might use it as wallpaper though
19:24 reptilian_thrills; im sure its a cool looking image.
19:25 reptilian_thrills; i havent seen it
19:25 starstreak; cuz its on github
19:25 reptilian_thrills; thats not even why
19:25 reptilian_thrills; id probably look if it was only on github
19:25 reptilian_thrills; brb
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19:34 psydruid; #fuck-you-microsoft
19:35 starstreak; they're doing it for their image
19:35 starstreak; they want to look like heroes
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19:38 reptilian_thrills; im fucking tired of microsoft acting like they own everything
19:38 reptilian_thrills; giving microsoft control of free software is like giving the catholic church control over freedom of religion
19:38 reptilian_thrills; they said microsoft <3 linux and theyve taken it over and sabotaged it
19:38 reptilian_thrills; now they <3 lgbt (not for the first time)
19:38 reptilian_thrills; what could go wrong
19:39 reptilian_thrills; bill gates is literally a eugenicist, from a eugenist dynasty. microsoft is his empire.
19:39 reptilian_thrills; he would breed out lgbt qualities from people.
19:39 reptilian_thrills; he would support that, and his empire is built like a wing of ibm
19:39 reptilian_thrills; who literally engineered the holocaust
19:40 reptilian_thrills; a microsoft pride flags makes about as much sense as a rainbow nazi swastika armband.
19:40 reptilian_thrills; as for gay nazis, other than dfc i mean
19:40 reptilian_thrills; hitler had a CLOSE (not THAT close, but people did speculate) friend in the reich who he KNEW was gay
19:40 reptilian_thrills; and they were on the politest of terms
19:41 reptilian_thrills; hitler did eventually have him killed under suspicion
19:41 reptilian_thrills; so much for the tolerance of the fascist right.
19:41 starstreak; <starstreak> they're doing it for their image
19:41 starstreak; <starstreak> they want to look like heroes
19:41 reptilian_thrills; they want to look like allies
19:41 reptilian_thrills; more than that, they want people to treat them like allies.
19:42 reptilian_thrills; roy calls it reputation washing. im not afraid to say when roy is (however rarely) 100% right about something.
19:42 reptilian_thrills; hes 100% right about this
19:42 reptilian_thrills; it seems warm and fuzzy
19:42 reptilian_thrills; its actually really sinister
19:42 reptilian_thrills; but thats what gaslighting does
19:43 reptilian_thrills; this is corporate gaslighting. its as warm and fuzzy as emotional abuse.
19:43 reptilian_thrills; im not going to rant about it all day, because i havent bottled it up or pretended its fine
19:43 reptilian_thrills; but this IS weaponised bullshit.
19:44 reptilian_thrills; its weaponised fake pride for corporate (not merely hypocritical) means.
19:44 reptilian_thrills; ill never support this
19:44 starstreak; they want money
19:44 reptilian_thrills; they want money. and control.
19:44 reptilian_thrills; and they want to fool people.
19:44 starstreak; yeah but hosting doesn't always mean control
19:45 reptilian_thrills; not always
19:45 starstreak; if someone uploads their project to github, microsoft isn't telling them how to write code
19:45 reptilian_thrills; if you read the halloween documents, that truism will never apply to microsoft.
19:45 reptilian_thrills; hosting exists for the purpose of control.
19:45 reptilian_thrills; microsoft isn't telling them how to write code <- you should really read the halloween documents. microsoft wrote them.
19:46 starstreak; that being said, if everyone believed microsoft was evil, they would take 2 seconds to move their project to Gitlab, Codeberg, etc
19:46 reptilian_thrills; if its too boring there a series, On Techrights, called the handbook for
19:46 reptilian_thrills; if everyone believed microsoft was evil <- they think theyre not evil because microsoft is always exploited people and projects to wash their image.
19:46 reptilian_thrills; this is the latest example.
19:46 reptilian_thrills; its funny how if you have billions of dollars and fooling people is part of your business model
19:46 reptilian_thrills; a core part at that-- people get fooled.
19:47 starstreak; the way i look at it is, they're spending money to host stuff i'd have public anyways
19:47 reptilian_thrills; if the halloween documents are too boring there a series, On Techrights, called the handbook for destroying the free software movement
19:47 reptilian_thrills; its based on (and heavily quotes) the halloween documents
19:47 reptilian_thrills; it predicted stallman being ousted.
19:47 starstreak; im not reading esr's crazy manifestos
19:48 reptilian_thrills; they're spending money to host stuff i'd have public anyways <- the third reich spent a lot of money too
19:48 starstreak; keybase is owned by zoom but im still using them for their 100GB of free clown storage
19:48 reptilian_thrills; "look, we house them, we dont charge them for the mass graves, we do keep their teeth..."
19:48 starstreak; e2e encrypted
19:48 techuser; is registration easy?
19:49 techuser; as in, no phone number, no credit card
19:49 techuser; no ID verification
19:49 starstreak; pretty easy, no phone number
19:49 reptilian_thrills; youre using keybase as a mirror that you encrypt before you upload
19:49 starstreak; yeah
19:49 reptilian_thrills; i dont worry about github mirrors if theyre not being used for active development.
19:49 starstreak; i also make a copy on dvd
19:50 reptilian_thrills; i dont think github should be used for mirrors either-- but its such a minor problem compared to the others, i just dgaf
19:50 starstreak; i like gitlab better
19:50 reptilian_thrills; gitlabs claim to fame is being better than github
19:51 reptilian_thrills; i think its horrific, but anything is better than github
19:51 reptilian_thrills; except MAYBE sourceware
19:51 reptilian_thrills; because thats ibm
19:51 starstreak; what would you use for git hosting
19:51 reptilian_thrills; but i dont really think moving from sourceware to github is a good thing
19:51 starstreak; don't say self hosted
19:51 reptilian_thrills; what would you use for git hosting <- anything but github or gitlab
19:51 starstreak; lol
19:52 reptilian_thrills; ive used sourceforge. that was my first move from github.
19:52 starstreak; ewww sourceforge
19:52 reptilian_thrills; i never even signed up for github. when i was making fig os someone
19:52 starstreak; they're terrible
19:52 reptilian_thrills; i know sourceforge is awful
19:52 starstreak; sourceforge was adding spyware to executables
19:52 reptilian_thrills; they were worse when they were under different owners
19:52 techuser; propose something else. Tell others to promote it. It will eventually become evil shit.
19:52 reptilian_thrills; listen, the original owners never did that. some people bought it and did that.
19:52 reptilian_thrills; then new people bought it and FIXED that.
19:52 reptilian_thrills; the middle owners should be lined up against a wall
19:53 reptilian_thrills; but the present owners cant be faulted for fixing it
19:53 reptilian_thrills; but this brings up a great point imo
19:53 reptilian_thrills; we should never trust for-profit repos imo
19:53 reptilian_thrills; ideally everyone would use non-profit orgs (with all their faults, yes) for hosting.
19:54 reptilian_thrills; savannah is awful but id use it before github.
19:54 reptilian_thrills; savannah is an fsf-hosted fork of sourceforge btw
19:54 reptilian_thrills; from when the latter was under a free license
19:55 techuser; then they turn evil
19:55 techuser; the non-profit orgs
19:55 reptilian_thrills; i have misgivings about srht because i feel their model is a bit mafia-like
19:55 reptilian_thrills; im sure they have good intentions. i think its a shitty model.
19:55 techuser; why do some sell T-shirts for "donations"?
19:55 techuser; or something else
19:55 techuser; FSF and Tor Project at least
19:56 reptilian_thrills; when you stop paying it should become read-only
19:56 reptilian_thrills; thats fine
19:56 techuser; iirc FSF has its shop
19:56 reptilian_thrills; instead they plan to delete whatever isnt paid for
19:56 reptilian_thrills; i cant wait for them to change this or for someone to prove me wrong.
19:56 reptilian_thrills; they havent started doing it yet, thats great, but
19:56 techuser; or maybe they are no longer "non-profit"
19:56 reptilian_thrills; the model is stupid.
19:57 reptilian_thrills; theyre just being cheap af imo.
19:57 techuser; I can probably prove you wrong, but you probably ignore me
19:58 techuser; anyway, why should they host something that isn't paid for, especially for a long time
19:58 techuser; so they have their HDDs filled with old stuff they can't get rid of, and they can't buy new HDDs either because not enough people pay
20:01 techuser; and also if you don't do backups, you deserve this to happen at some point anyway
20:07 reptilian_thrills; i havent written off sr.ht completely-- i think most likely they will fold in the near future or (better yet) come to their senses
20:07 reptilian_thrills; but i think its too early to be optimistic
20:08 reptilian_thrills; they obviously have the wrong priorities imo. that needs to change
20:16 TR News; (NEW): 5 Best Free and Open Source Nim Static Site Generators http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Nim_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/5_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Nim_Static_Site_Generators.gmi
20:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines 5 Best Free and Open Source Nim Static Site Generators
20:17 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
20:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
20:17 TR News; (NEW): Wolfgang Denk http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/U-Boot_passed_away_last_week_We_have_lost_a_great_developer_and_a_very.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/U-Boot_passed_away_last_week_We_have_lost_a_great_developer_and_a_very.gmi
20:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Wolfgang Denk
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:26 TR News; SUB-10$ Linux board, GNOME Thumbnails (finally), + Ubuntu 22.10: Linux and Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BMdkC-_YmbM | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/BMdkC-_YmbM
20:26 TR Bot; SUB-10$ Linux board, GNOME Thumbnails (finally), + Ubuntu 22.10: Linux and Open Source News - Invidious
20:27 TR News; Mic explosions, new laptops and Ubuntu ads - A Trendy Talk - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dIR7gQlPpnI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/dIR7gQlPpnI
20:27 TR Bot; Mic explosions, new laptops and Ubuntu ads - A Trendy Talk - Invidious
20:30 TR News; "The U-Boot list carries the sad news that Wolfgang Denk, the founder of the U-Boot project, has passed away." https://lwn.net/Articles/912052/
20:30 TR Bot; Wolfgang Denk [LWN.net]
20:39 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Ubuntu Spam, GNOME, LeftWM, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Videos_Ubuntu_Spam_GNOME_LeftWM_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Videos_Ubuntu_Spam_GNOME_LeftWM_and_More.gmi
20:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Ubuntu Spam, GNOME, LeftWM, and More
20:41 TR News; David REVOY: would sign anything https://www.davidrevoy.com/article933/signing-session-in-november-2022-brive-and-toulouse
20:41 TR Bot; Signing Session in November 2022: Brive and Toulouse - David Revoy
20:49 TR News; iTWire - EnergyAustralia portal compromised, details of 323 customers leaked https://itwire.com/security/energyaustralia-portal-compromised,-details-of-323-customers-leaked.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/energyaustralia-portal-compromised,-details-of-323-customers-leaked.html
20:49 TR Bot; - EnergyAustralia portal compromised, details of 323 customers leaked
20:50 TR News; iTWire - Govt to increase fines for data breaches to $50m, says Dreyfus https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/government-tech-policy/govt-to-increase-fines-for-data-breaches-to-$50m,-says-dreyfus.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/government-tech-news/government-tech-policy/govt-to-increase-fines-for-data-breaches-to-$50m,-says-dreyfus.html
20:50 TR Bot; - Govt to increase fines for data breaches to $50m, says Dreyfus
20:51 TR News; (NEW): Peropesis 1.8 released: GNU gcc and g++ compilers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Peropesis_1_8_released_GNU_gcc_and_g_compilers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Peropesis_1_8_released_GNU_gcc_and_g_compilers.gmi
20:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Peropesis 1.8 released: GNU gcc and g++ compilers
20:51 TR News; (NEW): EasyOS version 4.4.3 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/EasyOS_version_4_4_3_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/EasyOS_version_4_4_3_released.gmi
20:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines EasyOS version 4.4.3 released
20:51 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
20:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 125.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.00
20:59 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
20:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
20:59 TR News; (NEW): Raspberry Pi Introduction and Setup http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Raspberry_Pi_Introduction_and_Setup.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Raspberry_Pi_Introduction_and_Setup.gmi
20:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Raspberry Pi Introduction and Setup
20:59 TR News; (NEW): The Unity desktop in 2022 - A trick of nostalgia or the real deal? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/The_Unity_desktop_in_2022_A_trick_of_nostalgia_or_the_real_deal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/The_Unity_desktop_in_2022_A_trick_of_nostalgia_or_the_real_deal.gmi
20:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines The Unity desktop in 2022 - A trick of nostalgia or the real deal?
21:00 psydruid; Microsoft has never fallen apart as much as it has since cheap commodity hardware became available
21:00 TR News; (UPDATED): Linux Kernel 6.1 RC1 Arrives with Initial Rust Support (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Linux_Kernel_6_1_RC1_Arrives_with_Initial_Rust_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/17/Linux_Kernel_6_1_RC1_Arrives_with_Initial_Rust_Support.gmi
21:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Kernel 6.1 RC1 Arrives with Initial Rust Support (UPDATED)
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: they keep pretenfing
21:01 TR News; First package for Calibre6 in my repository | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/first-package-for-calibre6-in-my-repository/ Source: Eric Hameleers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//alien.slackbook.org/blog/first-package-for-calibre6-in-my-repository/
21:01 TR Bot; First package for Calibre6 in my repository | Alien Pastures
21:01 TR News; PowerDNS 4.7 Authoritative Server Brings Support for Catalog Zones https://linuxiac.com/powerdns-4-7-authoritative-dns-server/ Source: Linuxiac | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxiac.com/powerdns-4-7-authoritative-dns-server/
21:01 TR Bot; PowerDNS 4.7 Authoritative Server Brings Support for Catalog Zones
21:02 TR News; Intel MARKETING material from Phoronix. Of course it's controlled by proprietary software of MICROSOFT. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-DAOS-2.2-File-System
21:02 TR Bot; Releases DAOS 2.2 Distributed File-System - Phoronix
21:05 TR News; No link to the actual CHANGE, just FIVE links from Phoronix to ITSELF https://www.phoronix.com/news/DMA-BUF-FB-Mesa-VLK-Wayland
21:05 TR Bot; Lands DMA-BUF Feedback Support For Vulkan On Wayland - Phoronix
21:07 TR News; "Last weekend I attended an OpenStreetMap workshop about indoor mapping hosted by the German Federal Agency for Cartography and Geodesy in Frankfurt. After having started to use OSM indoor data in 2020 for KDE Itinerary this was my first opportunity to actually meet other people working on that subject in person." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/10/22/osm-indoor-workshop-october-2022.html
21:07 TR Bot; OSM Indoor Mapping Workshop Recap
21:07 TR News; KDE's Google Summer of Code 2022 Projects: Final Report | KDE.news https://dot.kde.org/2022/10/22/kdes-google-summer-code-2022-projects-final-report Source: KDE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dot.kde.org/2022/10/22/kdes-google-summer-code-2022-projects-final-report
21:07 TR Bot; KDE's Google Summer of Code 2022 Projects: Final Report | KDE.news
21:10 reptilian_thrills; android tablets certainly didnt do microsoft m/any favours
21:10 reptilian_thrills; they get a cut, which is mafia shit
21:10 reptilian_thrills; pure theft
21:10 TR News; "A funny post today; I gave an internal presentation at work recently describing the so-called "sticky mark bit" algorithm. I figured I might as well post it here, as a gift to you from your local garbage human." https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/10/22/the-sticky-mark-bit-algorithm
21:10 TR Bot; the sticky mark-bit algorithm -- wingolog
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; reptilian_thrills: ^ ingo
21:11 reptilian_thrills; helped along by the corrupt government
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; *wingo
21:11 reptilian_thrills; mafia government
21:11 TR News; (NEW): Post Collapse Computing Part 3: Building Resilience http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Post_Collapse_Computing_Part_3_Building_Resilience.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Post_Collapse_Computing_Part_3_Building_Resilience.gmi
21:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Post Collapse Computing Part 3: Building Resilience
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; <reptilian_thrills> mafia government
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> pfizer is under a criminal investigation in europe already (afaik) https://truthout.org/articles/pfizer-price-gouges-by-charging-10000-percent-above-cost-for-us-covid-vaccine/ | Source: TruthOut
21:11 TR Bot; Pfizer Price-Gouges by Charging 10,000 Percent Above Cost for US COVID Vaccine
21:15 TR News; 2180 active/online capsules indexed. Steady growth. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
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21:19 TR News; The next 'cattle' for such surveillance will be humans https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-intelligence/5g-ai-used-to-automate-counting-of-cattle-in-12-month-nsw-trial.html
21:19 TR Bot; - 5G, AI used to automate counting of cattle in 12-month NSW trial
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 TR News; Dumbest Mistakes I've Ever Made On Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RFZ3uLnpbQY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/RFZ3uLnpbQY
21:20 TR Bot; Dumbest Mistakes I've Ever Made On Linux - Invidious
21:21 TR News; Find Is Slow, Use This Command Instead - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l-19tKTktfk | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/l-19tKTktfk
21:21 TR Bot; Find Is Slow, Use This Command Instead - Invidious
21:22 TR News; (NEW): GNU Parallel 20221022 ('Nord Stream') released [Savannah] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/GNU_Parallel_20221022_Nord_Stream_released_Savannah.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/GNU_Parallel_20221022_Nord_Stream_released_Savannah.gmi
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21:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Parallel 20221022 ('Nord Stream') released [Savannah]
21:23 TR News; Plumbing valves make great heavy duty analog inputs | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/22/plumbing-valves-make-great-heavy-duty-analog-inputs/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/22/plumbing-valves-make-great-heavy-duty-analog-inputs/
21:23 TR Bot; Plumbing valves make great heavy duty analog inputs | Arduino Blog
21:23 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, muh corporations are corporationy
21:26 TR News; "After all this time I've been on Linux I've had my fair share of issues so today I thought it'd be fun to recount some of those issues as a learning experience/you get to laugh a bit at me." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RFZ3uLnpbQY
21:26 TR News; "For Linux there are few command line tools that can complete with find to search for files on your system. But locate is much faster but lacks a lot of finds features" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l-19tKTktfk
21:26 reptilian_thrills; all corps are bastards
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; corporations are "patrons"
21:27 starstreak; ACAB
21:27 schestowitz[TR]; "thank gnu, $patron"
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: corporations are diversity
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; <starstreak> Microsoft made a wicked pride flag: https://github.com/microsoft/Pride-flag?ocid=FY23_soc_omc_br_tw_PrideFlag
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- GitHub - microsoft/Pride-flag: Pride flag featuring 40 individual LGBTQIA+ flags
21:28 TR Bot; - microsoft/Pride-flag: Pride flag featuring 40 individual LGBTQIA+ flags
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft is TOLERANCE
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
21:28 starstreak; ignorance is strength
21:28 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
21:29 reptilian_thrills; freedom is github
21:30 TR News; One month report of a low-carb diet gemini://waste.smol.pub/low-carb-one-month
21:30 reptilian_thrills; we have always been at peace with microsoft
21:30 reptilian_thrills; 5 minute hate for stallman
21:30 TR News; The painless way to multiple values on Scheme gemini://idiomdrottning.org/multiple-values
21:31 TR News; Elizabeth Mattijsen: Don't fear the grepper! (2) https://dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-2-4ki5
21:31 TR Bot; Don't fear the grepper! (2) - DEV Community
21:31 TR News; "Where magma stands for :Meta-Apple-Google-Microsoft-Amazon." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-09-20-magma.gmi
21:32 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], im using it as a wallpaper
21:32 TR News; How idiotic! "For Ireland I can do everything online from home and submit a photo taken with a smartphone (or any decent digital camera). It is 2022. This is how it should be!" gemini://ruario.flounder.online/journal.gmi
21:33 resistor; This flag combines 40 different flags from LGBTQIA+ communities around the world, including: Abrosexual, Aceflux, Agender, Ambiamorous, Androgynous, Aroace, Aroflux, Aromantic, Asexual, Bigender, Bisexual, Demifluid, Demigender, Demigirl, Demiromantic, Demisexual, Gay/MLM/Vinician, Genderfluid, Genderflux, Genderqueer, Gender questioning, Graysexual, Intersex, Lesbian, Maverique, Neutrois, Nonbinary, Omnisexual, Pangender, Pansexual, Polyamorous,
21:33 resistor; Polysexual, Transgender, Trigender, Two Spirit, Progress Pride, Queer, Unlabeled.
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like pill ingrients
21:33 starstreak; lol
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; (ingredients
21:34 starstreak; it looks like a rainbow wormhole
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; "Unlabeled"
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; Find out what it is then
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; it might be cyanide and happiness
21:34 starstreak; Microsoft just wants an ally so they can make money.
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; no
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; so thet can libel people
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; like RMS
21:34 starstreak; That said, I still like the wallpaper.
21:35 reptilian_thrills; the flag is a nice idea
21:35 reptilian_thrills; the reasons for it are bullshit
21:35 resistor; microsoft, got a new mascot: a rainbow colored anus
21:35 reptilian_thrills; when someone dishonestly pretends to care about you, its never for a nice reason.
21:35 reptilian_thrills; theyre using you.
21:35 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, wanna see my desktop? https://i.imgur.com/OKzfiiN.png
21:36 reptilian_thrills; i know what im going to see if i go there
21:36 starstreak; XD
21:36 starstreak; so you won't even look at it
21:36 reptilian_thrills; thats a dirty trick, you cow <3
21:36 starstreak; afraid you might like it?
21:36 reptilian_thrills; dirty cow <- some computer vulnerability from 2019
21:36 starstreak; you're judging a book by its cover
21:36 reptilian_thrills; afraid you might like it? <- whats what she said
21:36 reptilian_thrills; you're judging a book by its cover <- just the opposite
21:37 reptilian_thrills; the cover is lovely. its a very nice dust jacket for mein bloody kampf.
21:37 reptilian_thrills; :P
21:37 starstreak; lol
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/10/20/understanding-autism/
21:37 TR Bot; Guest Post: Understanding Autism for More Complete Inclusion | Techrights
21:37 reptilian_thrills; i love you anyway
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/
21:37 TR Bot; Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental | Techrights
21:37 starstreak; ooooooo
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/
21:37 TR Bot; The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | Techrights
21:37 starstreak; Roy just linked an autism article
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2021/12/12/exploiting-autistic-people/
21:38 TR Bot; EPO Management Now Exploits Autistic People as White-washing Communication Exercise for an Organization Which Has Breached Fundamental Rights | Techrights
21:38 starstreak; reptilian_thrills, it was funny when you rage quit because i forked something on github
21:39 reptilian_thrills; Roy just linked an autism article <- i dont think roy understands autism as well as he should
21:39 reptilian_thrills; he is familiar with microsoft exploiting autism and i know he did an article about that
21:39 starstreak; <reptilian_thrills> Roy just linked an autism article <- i dont think roy understands autism as well as he should <- touche
21:39 TR News; "This unit was an eBay find that was advertised as not working and priced accordingly." https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/10/one-more-7600-pong-coleco-telstar-gemini.html
21:39 TR Bot; Old Vintage Computing Research: One more MOS 7600 Pong: Coleco Telstar Gemini
21:39 reptilian_thrills; as well as he should <- if he understood it a little better it would be helpful
21:39 reptilian_thrills; it could be worse too
21:40 reptilian_thrills; but either way, microsoft has exploited autism and roy has written about it
21:40 reptilian_thrills; i have mixed feelings about the article
21:40 reptilian_thrills; it could be worse
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; people from the inside iexplained it to me
21:40 reptilian_thrills; microsoft is worse.
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; how microsoft exploited them
21:40 starstreak; Microsoft has a neurodivergence hiring program that I went through
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; several in fact
21:40 starstreak; I didn't get hired :/
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; some even died from it
21:40 reptilian_thrills; how microsoft exploited them <- thats true
21:40 starstreak; probably a good thing
21:40 reptilian_thrills; probably a good thing <- dodged a bullet
21:41 starstreak; im good at dodging bullets
21:43 reptilian_thrills; like neo
21:43 starstreak; yeah, bullet time
21:44 TR News; Greenwashed: how the new "Middle Arm" fossil fuel hub was rebranded green https://michaelwest.com.au/greenwashed-how-the-new-middle-arm-fossil-fuel-hub-was-rebranded-green/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/greenwashed-how-the-new-middle-arm-fossil-fuel-hub-was-rebranded-green/
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21:44 TR Bot; Greenwashed: how the new "Middle Arm" fossil fuel hub was rebranded green
21:45 TR News; Medieval Times invents a modern union-busting tactic https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/14/competitors-critics-customers/#ip
21:45 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 14 Oct 2022 Medieval Times invents a modern union-busting tactic; Billionaire dilletantes vs good Democrats Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
21:46 TR News; "Sam Lambert is CEO of PlanetScale, the serverless MySQL database platform for developers." https://anchor.fm/ossstartuppodcast/episodes/E60-Building-Highly-Scalable-Databases-with-PlanetScale-e1phple
21:46 TR Bot; E60: Building Highly Scalable Databases with PlanetScale by Open Source Startup Podcast
21:48 TR News; Firmware updated update on router hour ago without any notification to us, which means BT will remotely reboot at some unknown time tonight, causing issues. They just don't care.
21:50 TR News; Fraudclick spamnail has clearly not given up on the fraud. Where he forgot to enable the fraud one can see videos with like 9 views in 9 days (i.e. one view per day since publication). LF hires frauds.
21:51 TR News; Authoritative Server 4.7.0 | PowerDNS Blog https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/10/20/authoritative-server-4-7-0/ Source: PowerDNS | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.powerdns.com/2022/10/20/authoritative-server-4-7-0/
21:51 TR Bot; Authoritative Server 4.7.0 | PowerDNS Blog
21:52 TR News; Chatcontrol or Child Protection? https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/13/chatcontrol-or-child-protection/
21:52 TR Bot; connect to www.lightbluetouchpaper.org:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/13/chatcontrol-or-child-protection/ )
21:54 TR News; "I was fascinated by The Thorny Problem of Keeping the Internets Time, in which no less than the New Yorker features NTP, the protocol and software by which any computer connected to the Internet knows the right time to within a tiny fraction of a second off what the best atomic clocks say" https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/10/11/Long-Links
21:54 TR Bot; ongoing by Tim Bray Long Links
21:55 TR News; ML models must also think about trusting trust https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/10/ml-models-must-also-think-about-trusting-trust/
21:55 TR Bot; connect to www.lightbluetouchpaper.org:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/10/ml-models-must-also-think-about-trusting-trust/ )
21:57 spazz; c
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; c c senior
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; senor with accent on the o
22:01 TR News; "My goal is to expand the Linux community." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0JJaZTmBNLw
22:01 TR Bot; E89: Tech Talk: Secure Your Linux Server - Invidious
22:02 TR News; "Here's Jon Corbet's very recent Linux Kernel Report from the recent LinuxCon OSS EU 2022..." http://www.montanalinux.org/video-linux-kernel-report-oct-2022.html
22:02 TR Bot; Linux Kernel Report, Oct. 8th, 2022 | www.montanalinux.org
22:12 TR News; (NEW): Videos and Shows: Mistakes, Find, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Videos_and_Shows_Mistakes_Find_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Videos_and_Shows_Mistakes_Find_and_More.gmi
22:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos and Shows: Mistakes, Find, and More
22:12 TR News; (NEW): KDE Itinerary in OSM Indoor Mapping Workshop and KDE's Google Summer of Code 2022 Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/KDE_Itinerary_in_OSM_Indoor_Mapping_Workshop_and_KDE_s_Google_S.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/KDE_Itinerary_in_OSM_Indoor_Mapping_Workshop_and_KDE_s_Google_S.gmi
22:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Itinerary in OSM Indoor Mapping Workshop and KDE's Google Summer of Code 2022 Projects
22:12 TR News; (NEW): Authoritative Server 4.7.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Authoritative_Server_4_7_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Authoritative_Server_4_7_0.gmi
22:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Authoritative Server 4.7.0
22:12 TR News; code here
22:12 MinceR; snarky comment here
22:12 TR News; (NEW): DAOS Version 2.2 Release Notes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/DAOS_Version_2_2_Release_Notes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/DAOS_Version_2_2_Release_Notes.gmi
22:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines DAOS Version 2.2 Release Notes
22:12 TR News; (NEW): Marcos Costales: Clipboard content to file. New app http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Marcos_Costales_Clipboard_content_to_file_New_app.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Marcos_Costales_Clipboard_content_to_file_New_app.gmi
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22:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Marcos Costales: Clipboard content to file. New app
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: how dare u !!
22:13 MinceR; :)
22:13 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> snarky comment here <- misogynist!
22:13 MinceR; how did that compute?
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; that was 20 years ago!!
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; that'sx what she said
22:13 MinceR; :)
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; that's what they said
22:14 reptilian_thrills; typo
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; (no polygamy)
22:14 reptilian_thrills; i meant "me saw gymnast
22:15 reptilian_thrills; NOPOLY
22:15 reptilian_thrills; people always make jokes about "well fuck everybody then" (NOPOLY)
22:15 MinceR; lowpoly
22:16 reptilian_thrills; we need MO NOPOLY
22:16 reptilian_thrills; i think github has mo nopoly
22:17 psydruid; microsoft macht frei
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22:18 starstreak; i love k3b
22:19 starstreak; not only does it burn BD-R disks, but it also rips cds
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:20 reptilian_thrills; <psydruid> microsoft macht frei <-
22:20 reptilian_thrills; bkuhn: get your frei con
22:20 reptilian_thrills; get your free con
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; conservative
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; conservative.conf
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; sponsored by saleforce
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; btw, their staff objected to iiit
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; and slaesforce management did nothing
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; slaesforce is working for bigots
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; and yet employers some bigots who call leftists "bigots"
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; (yes, RMS)
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; let's post some fakes about RMS
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; and keep it online for years after knowing it was fake
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; oh mei!
22:24 resistor; reading about the "EU" "geen new deal" which "Madame President" Ursula Uschi Van-der-Leyen funneled billions into "breakthrough energy" investment fund... which is BillG
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; Ursula =slavery
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; slave trade
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; bigot
22:24 resistor; same with Vaccine spendings of "EU", Uschi giving money to BillG
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/
22:24 TR Bot; Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; .https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/21/pfizer-secrecy/
22:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive Pfizer Refuses to Explain What Its Selling
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; EU: U pay
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; they hide
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; and soon they try to even start an illegal patent syste,
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; UPC
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; I will cover this in a few days
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; EU is burying itself
22:25 schestowitz[TR]; but it's because it lets's lobbyists run the EU
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; so EU becomes lobbyville these years
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; everyone who criticises some EU decision is a "bigot" now
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; but that label is not holding up
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; as they do more and more things that piss off pepople on all sides
22:27 resistor; https://yewtu.be/channel/UC_bMh2cqdwioGicb_zbdevw
22:27 TR Bot; Nico Semsrott - Invidious
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's like a localised UN
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; started out OK
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; pro-peace
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; then a pocket of corruption
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; and of autocrats
22:27 reptilian_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> everyone who criticises some EU decision is a "bigot" now <- or a rape apologist
22:28 resistor; anyhow, this entire money laundring system of theirs is dys-functional
22:28 reptilian_thrills; the kool-aid man is a grape apologist
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; they assume they are beyond criticism
22:28 reptilian_thrills; the swedish chef is a crepe apologist
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; and that people will supprot the "EU" no matter what they do
22:29 reptilian_thrills; e! u! get offa my cloud!
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; rms is abeleist because he support abortion
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; *supports
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; he is a self-hating ableist
22:29 reptilian_thrills; it was a stupid comment, but the attacks on rms were more ableist than rms himself
22:29 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
22:30 reptilian_thrills; also it was a stupid comment, but in context it was less awful
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22:30 TR News; Holy moley, thats the way to spread the good word - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/holy-moley-thats-the-way-to-spread-the-good-word/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/holy-moley-thats-the-way-to-spread-the-good-word/
22:30 TR Bot; Holy moley, that's the way to spread the good word - Michael West
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; <reptilian_thrills> also it was a stupid comment, but in context it was less awful
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; wait, here is the thing
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; cancel culture is all about removing context
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; I wrote about it before
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; and why TWITTEr os OPTICAL for this culture
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; no context
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; standalone short sentences
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/
22:32 TR Bot; Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; bhuhnhehim removed all his dents from identica
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; like one by one
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; he wants to be immune from this
22:32 schestowitz[TR]; while he targets rms
22:33 schestowitz[TR]; to take away RMS 'sponsors' / 'clients' (Patrons)
22:33 resistor; GNU does have quality issues
22:33 TR News; Half a million squandered by Information Commissioner on frustrating publics right to know - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/half-a-million-squandered-by-information-commissioner-on-frustrating-publics-right-to-know/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/half-a-million-squandered-by-information-commissioner-on-frustrating-publics-righ
22:33 TR Bot; Half a million squandered by Information Commissioner on frustrating public's right to know - Michael West
22:34 schestowitz[TR]; with gnu you can see and fix them
22:34 resistor; that severe, i blocked updates/upgrades indefinitely with what contains GNU
22:34 resistor; schestowitz[TR]: wrong, i cannot
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22:34 schestowitz[TR]; gnu is till vastly more predictable than some of the prprietary stuff I used in the 90s
22:35 resistor; GNU does heavily rely upon and does support proprietary stuff
22:35 resistor; $ man gcc ; see for yourself, dozens of pages which document all the proprietary extensions from malicious vendors GNU does support
22:35 TR News; "I love how Wikipedia shows you a preview of a page when you hover over a link to another page in a wiki entry. This makes Wikipedia more navigable for me, particularly if I am only looking for a definition of a term" https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/12/hovercards/
22:35 TR Bot; Adding hovercards to my website | James' Coffee Blog
22:36 resistor; schestowitz[TR]: and in practice it is almost impossible to fully detangle GNU buildsystem too, oasis linux is trying (with other problems remaining)
22:37 TR News; "Weve started to see interest from some TV and laptop companies, especially around our upcoming hand gesture recognition, so if you are in the consumer electronics world, or have other applications in mind, I would love to hear from you!" https://petewarden.com/2022/10/20/launching-useful-sensors/
22:37 TR Bot; Launching Useful Sensors! Pete Warden's blog
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22:38 TR News; "I felt a little bit silly, because I wrote a book about lazy functional programming and yet somehow, its not the glue I reach for first when I need glue." https://blog.plover.com/2022/10/18#lazy-search
22:38 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Tree search in Haskell
22:38 resistor; gcc47, this is where i stop, linux-5.10, and no step further into the direction where GNU and Linux are heading
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22:41 TR News; "i have my sewing machines on a standing desk: the foot control leads are too short to have the foot control on the floor." gemini://gemini.mingmengtou.org/2022-10-22-bernina-foot-control-extension.gmi
22:42 TR News; A dbplyr-based Address Matching Package https://nhsrcommunity.com/a-dbplyr-based-address-matching-package/
22:42 TR Bot; A dbplyr-based Address Matching Package NHS-R Community
22:43 TR News; https
22:43 TR News; MLOps with vetiver in Python and R: Answering your questions - RStudio https://www.rstudio.com/blog/vetiver-answering-your-questions/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rstudio.com/blog/vetiver-answering-your-questions/
22:43 TR Bot; with vetiver in Python and R: Answering your questions - RStudio
22:44 TR News; "The Laith Marouf/CMAC incident took another turn today as Globe and Mail has a report that the Prime Ministers Office knew for a month that the government was funding an anti-semite as part of its anti-hate program. And it did nothing." https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/government-funding-for-an-anti-semite-they-knew-for-a-month-and-did-nothing/
22:44 TR Bot; Government Funding For an Anti-Semite: They Knew For a Month. And Did Nothing. - Michael Geist
22:45 TR News; Broadcast Bonanza: PBO Says Bill C-18 Would Give a Quarter Billion to Broadcasters Such as Bell and the CBC, Less Than 25% of Payments to Canadian Newspapers https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/broadcast-bonanza/
22:45 TR Bot; Broadcast Bonanza: PBO Says Bill C-18 Would Give a Quarter Billion to Broadcasters Such as Bell and the CBC, Less Than 25% of Payments to Canadian Newspapers - Michael Geist
22:46 TR News; Pedobook: "Reportedly Facebook took action against 340,000 EU accounts during a period of two months for sending or receiving alleged child pornography to or from EU users." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/meta-facebook-defends-error-prone-chat-control-csam-scanner-algorithms-in-court/
22:46 TR Bot; Meta/Facebook defends error-prone chat control CSAM scanner algorithms in court Patrick Breyer
22:47 TR News; Data retention: France illegally extends blanket mass surveillance of the entire population - Patrick Breyer https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-france-illegally-extends-blanket-mass-surveillance-of-the-entire-population/ Source: Patrick Breyer
22:47 TR Bot; Data retention: France illegally extends blanket mass surveillance of the entire population Patrick Breyer
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22:49 TR News; Dump: helping spying on oneself: "I have used a Mi Band as a smartwatch / fitness tracking device for the last couple years." https://bentsukun.ch/posts/mi-band-strava/
22:49 TR Bot; Using a Mi Band with Strava benzblog
22:50 TR News; "Every manufacturer would like to store your fitness data in their cloud. Your past data, the months or years worth of workouts, all this is a source of vendor lock-in that tech companies are all too eager to embrace." https://bentsukun.ch/posts/mi-band-strava/ there ought to be VERY strong regulations AGAINST those
22:52 TR News; Avoid Rust. https://crates.io/ is such utter crap that not only does it demand JavaScript; even if you use perfectly fine browsers with JS on it would still not work. It demands GAFAM malware. Rust is like monopolyware. There are many other facets to it...
22:52 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://crates.io/ )
22:52 TR News; Rust even has a warning label: its name
22:55 TR News; "Australian economist [sic] (BS artist) and ABC finance fixture Alan Kohler had a clear and concise article in The New Daily about the rise of remote work." https://rubenerd.com/alan-kohler-explores-remote-work/
22:55 TR Bot; Alan Kohler explores remote work
22:56 TR News; "Defaults in technology can sometimes be stronger than network effects for platforms. Default, pre-installed applications Notes, Mail, Maps, on iPhone." https://matt-rickard.com/defaults
22:56 TR Bot; Defaults
22:57 TR News; "Ive got some personal stuff going on, as well as a family, a busy job and a house move. Hopefully the sale will complete in a couple days from this post going live and normal service will resume. Pinky promise." https://kevquirk.com/its-all-gone-quiet-over-here/
22:57 TR Bot; It's all Gone Quiet Over Here - Kev Quirk
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22:58 TR News; 'Modern' WordPress: "Sadly, there are all sorts of ways plugin authors can abuse their privileges. Dodgy code and user-hostile features sometimes make plugins more trouble than they're worth" https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2022/10/howto-remove-the-blubrry-powerpress-new-banner/
22:58 TR Bot; HOWTO: Remove the Blubrry PowerPress New! Banner Terence Edens Blog
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22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 82.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 110.25
23:00 TR News; "Nat Friedman further asserted..." did he wear any clothes when he said that??? https://lunduke.substack.com/p/lundukes-normal-computing-news-oct http://techrights.org/2021/11/22/defrauding-microsoft-shareholders/
23:00 TR Bot; Lunduke's Normal Computing News - Oct 19, 2022
23:00 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VII Nat Friedman, as GitHub CEO, Had a Plan of Defrauding Microsoft Shareholders | Techrights
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23:02 TR News; "The cover is weird on purpose because of the topic." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/humiliation-is-deadly/
23:02 TR Bot; Humiliation is Deadly - Daniel Miessler
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23:03 TR News; US Dept of Energy injects $47m into tokamak fusion research - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/17/doe_tokamak_fusion_reactor_research/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/10/17/doe_tokamak_fusion_reactor_research/
23:03 TR Bot; US Dept of Energy injects $47m into tokamak fusion research The Register
23:03 TR News; Apple in trouble? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-21/apple-s-industrial-design-chief-evans-hankey-is-leaving-three-years-after-ive
23:03 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
23:04 DaemonFC; All these ReactOS builds are kind of confusing.
23:04 DaemonFC; I'm assuming there's probably important differences in whether the compiler was GCC or MSVC.
23:04 DaemonFC; I probably want the x86-32 version since it says USB and WoW64 is missing in x86-64.
23:05 TR News; In Twitter, "25 percent of employees have left in the last year" https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/10/21/twitter-musk-wapo-layoffs
23:05 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: The Washington Post: Musk Plans Massive Layoffs at Twitter
23:06 TR News; Many companies are overstaffed based on a false vision of bright future
23:06 DaemonFC; https://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8005
23:06 TR Bot; MSVC Compiler Support - ReactOS Forum
23:06 starstreak; Gnome 43 is sweet
23:06 DaemonFC; Od, but...
23:06 DaemonFC; *old
23:06 TR News; Video: LPC Keynote - Converstation with Linus Torvalds http://www.montanalinux.org/node/41
23:06 TR Bot; LPC Keynote - Converstation with Linus Torvalds | www.montanalinux.org
23:07 DaemonFC; "Why do you think we spent so much time on GCC 3.4.5 and last years on 4.1.3, despite version 4.4.x being released? Do you know that we opened several gcc/mingw bugs in their trackers? Do you know what part of them was fixed and what we had to hack around? Do you have any idea why we limit ourselves to C, while limiting C++ and how g++ being complete crap impacts that?"
23:07 DaemonFC; LOL
23:07 DaemonFC; Shots fired.
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; gcc is VAST
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; "yo mama is so fat gcc is almost smaller than her"
23:09 TR News; Assessing the Quantum-Computing Landscape https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/10/264854-assessing-the-quantum-computing-landscape/fulltext
23:10 TR Bot; Assessing the Quantum-Computing Landscape | October 2022 | Communications of the ACM
23:10 starstreak; "yo mama is so fat she crashes gcc"
23:10 DaemonFC; Despite this, Clang is terrifyingly worse.
23:10 DaemonFC; I noticed that absolutely nobody at ReactOS is looking into building with Clang/LLVM.
23:10 TR News; Deep Learning is Human, Through and Through https://cacm.acm.org/news/265733-deep-learning-is-human-through-and-through/fulltext
23:10 TR Bot; Deep Learning is Human, Through and Through | News | Communications of the ACM
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23:12 TR News; "A Greek financial journalist is one of several who believe they have been targeted for surveillance by the nation's government with the help of Intellexa." https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/10/suing-for-surveillance.html
23:12 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Suing for Surveillance
23:12 DaemonFC; "Fixing GCC or another open source compiler makes more sense than porting ReactOS to MSVC."
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23:12 DaemonFC; Not necessarily. From a software freedom POV, it's good to have GCC as a build option.
23:13 mib_naqlyy; Hi there. I need to manage an old watchguard x700 Firewall and need an old version of the system manager (v7.5 or 10.x). Any chance here?
23:13 TR News; "in-store augmented reality" == MOAR spying https://retailwire.com/discussion/big-retailers-say-they-need-more-tech-to-deliver-better-customer-experiences/
23:13 DaemonFC; But for compatibility with Windows programs, which is what ReactOS wants, and being able to debug its kernel and libraries and Windows programs from within ReactOS, MSVC is probably better even though it's proprietary.
23:13 TR Bot; retailers say they need more tech to deliver better customer experiences - RetailWire
23:13 starstreak; mib_naqlyy, i don't have it, and i don't think anyone here does
23:13 starstreak; sounds like a proprietary thing
23:13 DaemonFC; Seems like people interested in developing ReactOS would be better off doing it from an MSVC build for the most part, but users don't need to care as much.
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; not a support forrrum either
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: how many users?
23:14 starstreak; yeeeeee, this is #techrights and not #techsupport
23:14 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: how many users?
23:14 mib_naqlyy; ok. thank you people
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; np
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; reactos is a shrine to iwnodws
23:14 DaemonFC; Some people use ReactOS on real hardware. Mostly ancient PCs that came with XP and could not run a newer Windows version.
23:14 starstreak; reactos is terrible
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. a solution in search of a need
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23:15 DaemonFC; Or in an emulator because they're board.
23:15 starstreak; i tried reactos and it needed drivers for everything
23:15 DaemonFC; Some of the things they learn about Windows are helpful to Wine.
23:15 DaemonFC; The project isn't _useless_.
23:15 starstreak; you would think they would bundle virtual machine drivers
23:15 DaemonFC; But the people developing it do show a clear anti-unix bias.
23:16 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> you would think they would bundle virtual machine drivers <- that only holds if reactos development team were more than two lads on a bicycle taking shelter under half a bridge in ukraine
23:16 DaemonFC; The amusing part is that it actually doesn't support NTFS at all. They recently gave up on some unofficial FAT driver and imported Microsoft's "open source" FAT16/32 driver.
23:16 starstreak; i have a virtual machine drivers that works for windows 7+ but reactos is more like XP
23:16 reptilian_thrills; actually i think theyre russian, but they probably know the war is bullshit
23:16 TR News; better yet, do not collect data you do NOT need?https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/digital-masks de-anonymisation science probably thwarts this
23:16 TR Bot; Digital mask could protect patients privacy in medical records
23:16 DaemonFC; But for an "advanced" file system, they're porting over BtrFS.
23:17 reptilian_thrills; theyre certainly not "russian" to get reactos out
23:17 DaemonFC; Which is hilarious considering they hate Linux yet want all of this cool stuff because it's a pile of code that works well that they don't have to write.
23:17 DaemonFC; I don't think NTFS as an option on ReactOS even makes sense. What would the use case be? So you can have NTFS problems and proprietary disk tools to try to sort them all out with? :)
23:18 DaemonFC; chkdsk /f
23:18 DaemonFC; chkdsk: "CAN DOOOOOOOOOOO!" *corrupts file system *and* destroys the SSD hardware at the same time*
23:18 DaemonFC; mjg59_, "All the interesting people use Windows."
23:18 TR News; How lawyers became sadists https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/15/lex-sadist/#incentives-matter
23:19 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 15 Oct 2022 How lawyers became sadists Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
23:19 MinceR; the whole point of reactos is to have windows problems
23:19 DaemonFC; It's surprisingly small.
23:19 MinceR; it's incomplete
23:19 reptilian_thrills; and the whole point of free software is to avoid windows problems (not really. at least it used to be. not really)
23:19 DaemonFC; Windows virtual machine images are now 20 GB and that's in a ZIP file.
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 reptilian_thrills; uselessos
23:20 TR News; "US officials have grown uncomfortable over Musks recent threat to stop supplying the Starlink satellite service to Ukrainehe said it had cost him $80 million so farand what they see as his increasingly Russia-friendly stance following a series of tweets that outlined peace proposals" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-21/us-weighs-security-reviews-for-musk-deals-including-twitter-buy
23:20 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
23:20 reptilian_thrills; but ive used it. but it was useless.
23:20 MinceR; 23 001955 < reptilian_thrills> and the whole point of free software is to avoid windows problems (not really. at least it used to be. not really)
23:20 MinceR; not if you ask the FSF.
23:20 DaemonFC; They did ask Vladimir Putin for funding.
23:20 reptilian_thrills; ha, what fsf
23:21 reptilian_thrills; que fsf?
23:21 reptilian_thrills; kya fsf hai
23:21 DaemonFC; If he was smarter, the Russian government would have worked on this in the past decade.
23:21 reptilian_thrills; the cheese is old and mouldy. donde es el bano
23:21 MinceR; the Open Source Foundation
23:21 DaemonFC; If for nothing else, so they could move their Windows programs over to it instead of relying on pirated Microsoft stuff.
23:21 MinceR; or the Gratis Windows Foundation
23:21 reptilian_thrills; the Open Source Foundation <- this
23:21 reptilian_thrills; or the Gratis Windows Foundation <- frauddesktop.org
23:21 MinceR; or the "Doesn't Matter What It Is As Long As It Has Our License On It Foundation"
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; Open Soros Foundation
23:22 reptilian_thrills; thats the fsf agan
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; Not Open Society?
23:22 reptilian_thrills; the gee pee el
23:22 starstreak; Soros is a reptilian
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; so are you!
23:22 starstreak; lol
23:22 reptilian_thrills; open soros?
23:22 starstreak; open sores
23:22 reptilian_thrills; /me calls it open soros from now on
23:22 schestowitz[TR]; sorois initiative (OSI) ;-)
23:22 starstreak; you should call it open sores
23:23 reptilian_thrills; ive called it open sores
23:23 MinceR; what does Soros have to do with any of this?
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; better not call it open soaros
23:23 reptilian_thrills; he has nothing to do with any of this
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; there is no connection
23:23 reptilian_thrills; (and by nothing i mean EVERYTHING_
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; but soris does use the word "open" in some contextx
23:23 reptilian_thrills; and by EVERYTHING i mean actually nothing
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; like his proapoagnda site openDemocracy
23:23 starstreak; <MinceR> what does Soros have to do with any of this? <- he drinks the blood of infants to get his shot of adrenachrome
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; and that foundaiton of his
23:23 schestowitz[TR]; they're not about code or sharing
23:23 MinceR; lol
23:23 reptilian_thrills; i use the adrenachrome browser
23:24 schestowitz[TR]; more about "inclusion" and stuff
23:24 reptilian_thrills; but its ok, i dont install the plugins
23:24 starstreak; i got the new Gnome 43 web browser
23:24 *starstreak tries to install firefox plugins
23:24 reptilian_thrills; i got the new Gnome 43 web browser <- it was that or just sit at the acoustic coupler, breathing heavily
23:24 DaemonFC; https://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21476&p=146339
23:24 TR Bot; Fallout 3 gog - ReactOS Forum
23:25 reptilian_thrills; "mincer can i borrow your acoustic coupler?"
23:25 reptilian_thrills; "what makes you think i have one"
23:25 schestowitz[TR]; Use the Soros, Luke
23:25 reptilian_thrills; "oh, cmon"
23:25 DaemonFC; I wonder if the game actually plays.
23:25 reptilian_thrills; "dont get it dirry"
23:25 reptilian_thrills; dirty
23:25 DaemonFC; Ahh, no sound device detected, fallout 3 can't run. LOL
23:26 DaemonFC; Well, so it can't run a game from 2008 that Windows XP can.
23:26 reptilian_thrills; my computer teacher flew in wwii
23:26 DaemonFC; "the game start but is too slow to play
23:26 DaemonFC; "
23:26 reptilian_thrills; he did, he was a riot
23:26 DaemonFC; Hmm, probably no hardware accelerated graphics drivers in ReactOS.
23:26 reptilian_thrills; i bet he had a handful of acoustic couplers
23:26 reptilian_thrills; "hey, whats that thing?"
23:27 reptilian_thrills; "its an autistic coupler"
23:27 reptilian_thrills; "it looks like a keyboard to me"
23:27 reptilian_thrills; "well, youre not wrong"
23:27 TR News; Teaching Accidental and Essential Complexity https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/teaching-accidental-and-essential-complexity/ "For example, imagine a bunch of people all trying to find seats in an auditorium. Each person is nondeterministic: they can pick whatever seat they want, as long as its not occupied."
23:27 TR Bot; Teaching Accidental and Essential Complexity Buttondown
23:27 DaemonFC; "Besides being in alpha stage, ReactOS doesn't take advantage of multiple CPUs, so you'd be under-utilizing your system if you have a dual or quad-core system."
23:27 DaemonFC; No SMP support?
23:27 DaemonFC; Wow, so amazing.
23:28 DaemonFC; "OpenGL is rendered by Hardware if you use drivers which dont make ROS die. VBox drivers work fine as example."
23:28 MinceR; you'd be under-utilizing your system with windows too
23:28 MinceR; unless your goal is heating
23:29 TR News; "The Arduino Nano is neatly housed in a little 3-D printed case" https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/10/ir-controlling-new-air-conditioner-in.html
23:29 TR Bot; Old Vintage Computing Research: IR-controlling the new air conditioner in the vintage server room
23:29 MinceR; ROS is something quite different though
23:29 MinceR; https://www.ros.org/
23:29 TR Bot; ROS: Home
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; not just ubuntu?
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; ros2 and ros are ubuntu-based
23:29 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. debianWithAds
23:30 MinceR; afaik it can run on top of other distros too
23:30 MinceR; though not officially supported
23:31 TR News; "These scammers aim to take advantage of the elderly, people with disabilities, and others. I occasionally engage in scambaiting, but particularly enjoyed the encounter I document here." http://kn100.me/gumtree-scammer/
23:31 TR Bot; Convincing a Scammer That Theyre Going Crazy | Kevin Norman
23:33 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> afaik it can run on top of other distros too <- thats about the only way to do it
23:33 reptilian_thrills; im one of the people who have run python on reactos
23:33 reptilian_thrills; its doable.
23:33 MinceR; still not talking about ReactOS
23:33 reptilian_thrills; its fun to install
23:33 reptilian_thrills; oh, which one?
23:34 MinceR; ROS, i.e. Robot Operating System
23:34 reptilian_thrills; oh that thing
23:34 reptilian_thrills; yes ive heard of it
23:34 reptilian_thrills; "the other 'ros'"
23:34 reptilian_thrills; ros is an operating system
23:34 MinceR; more of a framework
23:34 MinceR; but they call it an OS
23:34 reptilian_thrills; reactos should call itself ross
23:34 reptilian_thrills; for reactos sucks
23:34 reptilian_thrills; like the guy from friends
23:35 reptilian_thrills; but they call it an OS <- systemd is a cuckold os but they call it an init system
23:35 MinceR; yeah
23:35 reptilian_thrills; "whats this"
23:35 reptilian_thrills; "just an egg"
23:35 reptilian_thrills; "its not going to hatch into a dragon and eat gnu is it?"
23:35 reptilian_thrills; "what? dont be silly. its JUST AN EGG"
23:36 reptilian_thrills; two months later: RAAAAAWWWRRR!! *FLAMES*
23:36 MinceR; https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/443/250/e3b.jpg
23:36 reptilian_thrills; "i thought you said it was just an egg"
23:36 reptilian_thrills; "and you believed me?"
23:37 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/443/250/e3b.jpg
23:37 reptilian_thrills; roys desk is made of
23:37 reptilian_thrills; MAHOGANY
23:37 reptilian_thrills; mahhhhaoooogany
23:37 reptilian_thrills; "its actually a card table"
23:38 reptilian_thrills; "yeah but whats it made of"
23:38 reptilian_thrills; "maaahhhhhooogany"
23:38 reptilian_thrills; "why are there so many shots of it"
23:38 reptilian_thrills; "i had to use up the roll"
23:38 reptilian_thrills; "isnt it digital?"
23:39 reptilian_thrills; "yeah but the model is so old i have to send the chip in the post to get processed into jpegs"
23:39 reptilian_thrills; "i had to use up the roll" <- and some people have no idea what this means :D
23:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That guy doing Windows 95 in Electron and Windows 98 in Electron put them on GitHub.
23:39 DaemonFC; They're old and basically useless, but Microsoft still has the copyright on them.
23:40 reptilian_thrills; "young people today with their weird hip language and 'LEET' slang!"
23:40 reptilian_thrills; "yeah okay, mister 'use up the roll'
23:40 reptilian_thrills; "thats because you literally did that!"
23:41 reptilian_thrills; "we didnt have slang when i was a boy!"
23:41 reptilian_thrills; "we had to pretend ordinary words were hip!"
23:42 TR News; Links 23/10/2022: RIP, Wolfgang Denk (U-Boot) and EasyOS 4.4.3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/22/rip-wolfgang-denk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/22/rip-wolfgang-denk/
23:42 TR Bot; Links 23/10/2022: RIP, Wolfgang Denk (U-Boot) and EasyOS 4.4.3 | Techrights
23:42 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
23:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
23:42 reptilian_thrills; when i heard my uncle was getting a hip replacement i thought they were going to teach him how to talk like a cool person
23:42 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
23:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
23:42 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
23:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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23:48 starstreak; Gnome 43 is sweet
23:48 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> Gnome 43 is sweet <- i tried a platform called "sugar"
23:48 reptilian_thrills; i learned python on it
23:50 starstreak; thats cool
23:50 reptilian_thrills; the weather people have gone from calling "record-breaking" temperatures to "record-challenging" temperatures
23:50 reptilian_thrills; "are you unprecedented?" "no, just record-challenged"
23:50 reptilian_thrills; i guess they didnt want to offend any records
23:51 schestowitz[TR]; chllenging news
23:51 reptilian_thrills; "im not broken! just a bit challenged!"
23:52 reptilian_thrills; my records are small i know, but theyre not yours, they are my own-- no theyre not yours, they are my own and
23:52 reptilian_thrills; they are never broken...
23:52 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4EXlSTVyJ4o
23:52 TR Bot; George Carlin Euphemisms and Disability Language - Invidious
23:53 reptilian_thrills; jewel kilcher, the cutest snaggle-toothed mormon girl on earth
23:54 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
23:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
23:54 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/22/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi
23:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
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