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00:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]prices still the same as 10 years ago
00:00 DaemonFC; The last ABS module I had to replace was on the Impala.
00:00 DaemonFC; They all go bad sooner or later.
00:00 DaemonFC; Mom had it replaced already. They seem to fail about every 10 years or so.
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00:03 schestowitz[TR]; "taking out all of their critics by any means necessary."
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; Koffler
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; obv. nazi
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; he lives in austria
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; cancelled
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; to make way to Windows/EDGE users
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; the "modereators"
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; who never contributed anything to fedora
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: 750 is a lot of taxi rides
00:04 DaemonFC; It is.
00:04 TR News; Pale Moons Greed and Corrosive People (Boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/corrosive-trolls/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/21/corrosive-trolls/
00:04 psydruid; the truth is that some of these people exhibit ibm/rh/ms syndrome
00:04 TR Bot; Pale Moons Greed and Corrosive People (Boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities | Techrights
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; now it's in gemini, too
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; I enjoyed this article
00:05 psydruid; if you're not wanted in some "community" you leave and never come back
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; and it covers many (not all) of the key points
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; it pays more to be a crook
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; but that's true outside tech too
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; yesterday I saw colleagues lying
00:05 psydruid; but you need to have a spine for that
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; toi client
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; don't want to give away the whole story
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; but let's say say bytemark took offline a machjine
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; due to persistent lack of payments
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; and then some people lied about the whole thing
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; I was so disgusted
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; rianne was too
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; liars.... keep the job
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00:06 schestowitz[TR]; honest people.. SHEOOSH!!! KEEP QUIET
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; emails being deleted t
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; to tamper with evidence
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; that's the "tech" world for you
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; liars with NO TECHNICAL SKILLS
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; like graveley
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; plagiarist on drugs
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; drug seller, too
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; coming soon
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ won't paty attention
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; hen looks for some technical people to cancel
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; not frauds who assault women
00:08 psydruid; he should bite the bullet and cancel himself
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; he does a fine job
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; he is already canceled by many
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; but they don't tell him
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; because then he would harass them, too
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; he's mentally binned by m,any kernel devs
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; they don't deal with lying clowns
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; they get coding and stuff done
00:09 psydruid; does he still "contribute" code to any free software projects?
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; no
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; he pretends to
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; and he uses github
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; proprioetary
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; ndsa
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; NSA
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; the S stands for the same security he belkieves in
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; back doors basically
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; "national security"
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00:10 schestowitz[TR]; security means the opposite of that
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; safety does too
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; privacy..
00:11 psydruid; national secrecy
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; robustness to censorshiop is also security
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; I spent 5 hours on ipfs today
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ is a MASSIVE proponent of cnesorhsip
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; and deplattforming people
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; not for doing anything illegal, either
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; some people believe that if some words hurt someone
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; even if it's true
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; or a corporation
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; or corrupt CEO
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; than it should be removed
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; except
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; the troll himself defames p[eople all the time
00:13 psydruid; does he manage to do so?
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; defamation and hurt aere not the same
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; I can write truithful things
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; that hurt a corrupt person
00:13 psydruid; not just in the US but also in the EU and elsewhere?
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; or
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; you could write false things
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; which is what he does
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; to PROTECT corrupt companies
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; and people
00:14 psydruid; I can't imagine people giving 2 cents for what he does
00:14 psydruid; in the most populated parts of the world at least
00:15 TR News; Openwashing puff piece for ICBM at IDF today https://www.networkworld.com/article/3674141/linux-foundation-to-blaze-a-path-forward-for-mainframes.html it's proprietary and PATENTED
00:15 TR Bot; Linux Foundation to blaze a path forward for mainframes | Network World
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; maybe bot-boosted
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; not sure how to check that in twitter
00:15 psydruid; and with several countries moving to their own hardware he will onky disadvantage those in his "home" regions
00:15 schestowitz[TR]; there are ways
00:16 psydruid; only*
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; I used to be able to identity fake accounts in twitter using a tooll
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; we found that about 50% mof the EPO's "fgollowers" were fake
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00:16 schestowitz[TR]; like you can easily see 95% of spamnil's "views" are fake (bots)
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; some people build a career on a lik,e on fruad
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; like bully de blanc
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; start with a lie
00:17 psydruid; I don't really check things on twitter
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; use a lie to get a job
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; leave the job befiore they figure out you lied about your abilities
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; and find a similar job
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; based on that last one
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; hop on
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; and joke about your incompetence
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; cannot code, have blue hair, became Debian Developer
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; should require buildsing and maintaining several serious programs BTW
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. you are required to have written some good software
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; and then hop on to bullying positions
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; gnome foundation
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; where you can start harassing ACTUAL devs
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; who do a ton of work
00:19 psydruid; I've noticed bugs creeping into debian to the point I moved to bookworm on my main laptop recently, hoping that things settle when that gets frozen
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 psydruid; and funnily enough it's faster now and KDE plasma also seems to be faster
00:20 psydruid; but now Mate and XFCE are in some state of brokenness
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; i use 10 and 11
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; rianne also uses both
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; on 2 machines
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; 11 is... ok
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; but it feels like 10 was more predictable
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; my sister was forced by employer from 10 to 11
00:21 psydruid; I think it's something with my hardware
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; I told her to push back
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; she did for a year
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; when they finally moved her to 11 (was not needed)
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; ot caused her chaos
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; and to colleagues too
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of things that worked ok in debian 10 stoped working
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; and wehat for?
00:22 psydruid; I ran 11 for a year when I noticed the bugs creeping in
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; debian 10 stillll gets security patches
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; so she said that I was right
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; and now the processes she does take longer
00:22 schestowitz[TR]; it was a downgrade basically
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; debian pushed out its kde developers/packager
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; thew person who built and maintained plasma
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; they used a nasty mob
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; and wqhy?
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; because he edefended tso from the mob
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; thatt's not acceptable
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; \the canel mob founded a senior dev
00:23 schestowitz[TR]; seems the goal is to make distros less stable... by "taking out" the best devs
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; replacing themswiuth bully de blancs
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; who only offer "blue hair" to the project
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; and who discourage other people from joining the project as DM and DD
00:24 psydruid; this is why I don't deal with most of these projects
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; debian can not barely recruiit oine new developer per month!
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; and they wonder why???
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; like EPO
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; people do some reading and figure out it's not for them
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; so then debian wastes money on lawyers
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; to hide the facts
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; supported by the cancel mob
00:25 psydruid; I communicate my problems and file some bug reports to upstream projects but other than that I am usually not involved
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; debian lost people
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; and they try to pretend it has nothing to do with hiding the REAL toxic people
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; the cancel mob
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; the cancel mob claims to remove toxic people
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; but the toxicity is the mnob
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; and they know it
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; they just want to destroy
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; to take things down
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; no, NOT CORPORATIONS
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; communitiioes, projects
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; people, volkunteers
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; they take down the powerless
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; they defame journaliosts
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; who expose war crimes
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; and this is how they try to make a living
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; by attacking the VULNERABLE
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; the SMLALL
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; The POOR
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; they aim this low
00:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Turns out Matt Tobin lives very close to my home town in Indiana.
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; low-lives ;-)
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: bill gates doesn't bother me
00:27 DaemonFC; Maybe like 10-15 miles.
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC does
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; noscript is a good extension
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; rianne uses it still
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; along with other ad-blocking stuff
00:28 DaemonFC; The toxic people take senior positions in large corporations.
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; she does not allow any JS at all
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; by default anyway
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; and then selectively enables, like for a bank
00:28 DaemonFC; Yeah, that's how I use it.
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes, they they hire and promote other toxic people
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; same in politics
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; when yuo browse trher web
00:29 DaemonFC; If a page is something I really need to use and it doesn't seem SUPER sketchy and I'm having a hard time figuring it out, I can temp disable NoScript in that tab and close that tab when I'm done.
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; the only code that should run is
00:29 DaemonFC; And the permissions go away.
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; the firefox (if you still use that) code
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; or the firefox fork
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; that code MIGHT be truthworthy
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; and it's audited
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; no JavaScript
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; programs running from ruandom site not at their back end but on yoiur own machine is insanity normaklisede
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; *normalised
00:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: The developer of MyPal, which was a browser that still supported Windows XP, claims that Matt Tobin shut him down and "censored" the source code.
00:30 DaemonFC; I might ask Tobin what was up with that. MyPal's developer appears to be Russian?
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; maybe there was a good reason to block it
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; ittt's not My Pal
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; and if it demands JS, it's presumed malware
00:30 DaemonFC; The guy seems to be doxing Tobin.
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; censoring malware is not cenroship
00:30 DaemonFC; https://albusluna.com/mypal/index.html
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's called TT secuirity
00:30 TR Bot; Forbidden Mypal source code
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; *IT
00:31 DaemonFC; "However, there's a flip side. Matt has been able to focus on FOSS as much as he has because he's been on disability for mental illness. "
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; so tobin upset some bad pewople
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; good
00:31 DaemonFC; Making fun of someone for having a mental disorder is pretty low.
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; who would use XXP today?
00:31 DaemonFC; If it's even true.
00:31 schestowitz[TR]; heck, ANY Windows?
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; they are all back doored
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Making fun of someone for having a mental disorder is pretty low.\
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; soemeimes mjg59_ would do
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; and did
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; except, remember
00:32 DaemonFC; " We can state without uncertainty that Matt once told this writer he was a razor's edge from suicide. This isn't somebody that you'd want as a babysitter."
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; the cancel mob has no mental issues
00:32 DaemonFC; So are 25% of the Americans 18-24.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; they redefine their insanity as being special
00:32 DaemonFC; Nobody is allowed to talk about that.
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; and RMS is the crazy one
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; because he - GASP - stared aty guys andn gals
00:32 schestowitz[TR]; long gazes
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; maybe do electric shock
00:33 DaemonFC; A quarter of the American youth population sees no good future for themselves and longs to die.
00:33 DaemonFC; What a country.
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; to teach him noit to
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; tratement with electrodes
00:33 psydruid; I installed the latest build of Vista 11 in VirtualBox 7.0.0 Beta 2 yesterday choosing options that allowed me to skip logging in with a Microsoft account
00:34 psydruid; Even after installing guest tools the resolution is stuck at 1024x768
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft account = ankle chain/bracelet
00:34 DaemonFC; The 25% figure skyrocketed from like 11% in a single year due to the Democrat COVID shutdowns.
00:34 DaemonFC; The most morally reprehensible thing that party has ever done to this country.
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; ??
00:34 XRevan86; psydruid: Try resizing the window.
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; the lockdowns were done under trummp you know
00:35 psydruid; So it looks like they just remove more stuff to get you to log into an account
00:35 DaemonFC; It was the states doing them.
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; red states did them too
00:35 DaemonFC; The federal government can't implement that.
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; 'red'
00:35 XRevan86; psydruid: No, guest additions should work fine.
00:35 DaemonFC; Barely.
00:35 DaemonFC; And more people fought back!
00:35 psydruid; XRevan86: I did lots of things
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; meh
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; you change yhistory
00:35 DaemonFC; And they put an end to that.
00:35 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/190985.webm?mode=sfw
00:35 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190985.webm
00:35 DaemonFC; Very quickly.
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; also remember
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; 'red' states are not densely populated
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; the big cities are
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; and they are usually blue
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; so you miss out that bit
00:36 MinceR; better dead than red
00:36 XRevan86; MinceR: So fluid.
00:36 DaemonFC; The lefties didn't mind the lockdowns because mjg59_ can sit at home naked with his whatever.
00:36 psydruid; XRevan86: it sticks to the Microsoft Basic Driver, I also told VirtualBox developers about this "today"
00:36 DaemonFC; While the guy working at McDonalds loses his job.
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: when there is too much red you are dead
00:37 DaemonFC; mjg59_ can amuse himself with Doordash and making people spend their money (negative net earnings) driving him a pizza because the left destroyed all the jobs.
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; it's not a job
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; gig economy is fuedalism
00:37 schestowitz[TR]; feudalism
00:38 psydruid; all of the economy is feudalism
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; the lude ones are masters
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; and they like slaves
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; but they don't like the terminopoly
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; *logy
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: increasingly, over time
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; globalisation is part of it
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; india and china are labour mills
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; you might say,
00:38 schestowitz[TR]; like in british empire
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; so the western people enjopy it
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; but no
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; there are no jobs there
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; only low-cost labour abroad
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; the surplus goes to few hands
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; like the "royal"/HM and affiliates
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; they stockpile all the money
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; whiule banksters gamble on price of foods soaring
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; and then profit off that, too
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; self-fulfilling prophecies
00:40 psydruid; then you start revolutions and take back what's rightfully yours
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; well, spying makes it harder
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; russia and china are ahead
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; they hack away at anything that looks like a seed
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; like a famous singer who doiesn't fancy war
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; and make an example of them
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; in the west we have the same
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; but less direct
00:41 schestowitz[TR]; we have well-endowed (financially, not downstairs) losers
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; who attack the well-kwnon people
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; by baiting them
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; and then trying to cancel them
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; in saudfi sites
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; sauidi is acancel on steroid
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; they literally behead people, IN PUBKLIC, over nothing
00:42 schestowitz[TR]; and disappear whole swaaths of people
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; so the cancel mob is basically more like Wahhabi islam than progressive
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; people who shout "blaphemy'
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; and demand BLOOD
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; and then some people who claim alephants ar egender-fluid or something
00:43 schestowitz[TR]; and then demand blood if someone doe snot agree
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; the tactiucs are similar
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; but the marketing is different
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; ikt's style veneeer etc. over substance
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; \SJVN
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; https://thenewstack.io/shikitega-new-malware-program-targeting-linux/
00:44 TR Bot; Shikitega: New Malware Program Targeting Linux - The New Stack
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; at leasrt he threw in some rebuttals there
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; but still
00:44 schestowitz[TR]; and he did not call it "backdoors"
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; like thwe microsoft iars did
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; they nowadays call every malware for "Linux" (not) a back doors
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; when the real back doors are in Windows
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; seems like a coordinated FUD campaign
00:45 psydruid; they know this is the end game
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; yes, not much of windows
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; left
00:45 schestowitz[TR]; 27%?
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; india seems to have started mass migration
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; yesterdsy a I saw a report about sales of PCs stopping there
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; just millions or the quarter
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; so the PCs are reused
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; plus mobile
00:46 *schestowitz[TR] checks latest
00:46 psydruid; and this is without considering whatever SBC and IoT markets may grow to over the next decade
00:46 schestowitz[TR]; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-200901-202209
00:46 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; GNU/Linux 9% now
00:47 schestowitz[TR]; it's rising
00:47 psydruid; with each new computer type windows will look even more insignificant than before
00:47 psydruid; from 90% to 30% to maybe 10% in 2030?
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; https://itwire.com/hardware-and-storage/india-pc-shipments-fall-below-5m-for-first-time-in-four-quarters.html
00:48 starstreak; i use linucks btw
00:48 TR Bot; - India PC shipments fall below 5m for first time in four quarters
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; by sam varghese
00:48 psydruid; and from there fade into total obscurity
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; 5m in a country with 1500m people
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; that used to bring microsoft revenue
00:48 schestowitz[TR]; windows oem bulk licences
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland/#monthly-200901-202209
00:49 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Finland | Statcounter Global Stats
00:49 MinceR; 22 013802 < psydruid> all of the economy is feudalism
00:49 MinceR; Resistance is Feudal.
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; exercise in feudality
00:50 MinceR; :)
00:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/julian-alvarez-interview-competition-for-places-63799353
00:53 TR Bot; Alvarez welcomes competition for places at City
00:54 schestowitz[TR]; next door to us
00:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]'red' states are not densely populated
00:54 DaemonFC; Yes, it's nicer to live there.
00:54 DaemonFC; In some ways.
00:54 DaemonFC; People aren't bidding up rents and in each other's faces and shooting at each other.
00:55 DaemonFC; I mean, for the most part. If there's a shooting it makes the news with a full run down of exactly what happened because it's not another one every 2 minutes like Chicago.
00:56 DaemonFC; Where you wait until the end of the day and post "Everyone in Chicago was shot today, some twice! Pritzker responds blah blah must be all those lawful gun owners again.".
00:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]it's not a jobschestowitz[TR]gig economy is fuedalismschestowitz[TR]feudalism
00:57 DaemonFC; Never said it was a job. I said it's what people do thanks to the left destroying the job that they had before the supercold.
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00:57 DaemonFC; Down with San Francisco!
00:57 DaemonFC; Fuck San Francisco!
00:58 DaemonFC; All these companies laying off at once there is what they deserve. Unfortunately, there will be spillover into Real America.
00:58 DaemonFC; But the harm of letting things go on like they are in the "tech" sector is even worse than having a recession and telling them to get a real job like everyone else.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 127.86
00:59 DaemonFC; The collapse of this "tech" sector will ultimately benefit Free Software.
00:59 DaemonFC; Because companies like Microsoft are the ultimate user.
01:00 psydruid; That's the thing
01:00 psydruid; Stop propping up the companies and they will collapse even faster
01:00 DaemonFC; They're not contributing outside of some driver that runs "linux" in Hyper-V, so what do we lose if they go down? Nothing.
01:01 psydruid; Don't spend a cent on any of their products and services and they will be gone in no time
01:01 psydruid; That's why I actually want Microsoft to buy more game studios
01:02 psydruid; Let them fail and write those acquisitions off
01:03 psydruid; Those companies actually stand in the way of Real Tech used for Real Jobs
01:09 psydruid; There should be more local tech communities doing actually useful work instead of settling for government and advertising money by performing surveillance on people and selling their private data
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01:10 schestowitz[TR]; the b0rg
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Nathan Lineback of ToastyTech told me that he had resorted to using MyPal for a browser.
01:20 DaemonFC; He said it only came to that because everything else finally stopped running on Windows XP, including SeaMonkey.
01:20 schestowitz[TR]; wo is that?
01:21 DaemonFC; http://toastytech.com/
01:21 TR Bot; Nathan's Toasty Technology Page
01:21 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D361.jpg
01:21 DaemonFC; He made this site a long time ago. It has a huge gallery of GUI screenshots, including ancient and bizarre operating systems.
01:21 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D707.jpg
01:22 DaemonFC; AFAIK there's nothing that still runs on Windows 95 OSR 2.1 which was his preferred OS prior to getting marooned on XP.
01:22 TR News; "Editorial opinions, sure, but not the original sites themselves. My reaonsing is this: if I want to see Reddit, I can go to the Reddit site. I think it actually clutters up Geminispace, and I want Geminispace to have as much "signal" as possible." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-09-21-cdg.gmi
01:22 DaemonFC; He had a copy of SeaMonkey 1.x patched up to fix some Windows 95 glitches, but I'm assuming it finally got away from him after the overhaul in 2.0.
01:27 TR News; The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/
01:27 TR Bot; The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights
01:29 TR News; EPO management continues to gaslight and abuse staff, even in direct violation of the EPOs rules and legal contracts http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/epo-managers-acting-deaf/
01:29 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Abuse Continues, Managers Acting Deaf | Techrights
01:29 TR News; Despite relatively quiet weeks there is no calm at the EPO; the quality of patents continues to fall and staff isnt being properly rewarded for the work http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lscth-open-letter/
01:29 TR Bot; The EPOs Local Staff Committee The Hague (LSCTH) is Requesting Immediate Action | Techrights
01:30 TR News; "Mr. GULAG has repeatedly defended Microsoft Secure Boot even though he himself admits that their Platinum-level OEM partner, Lenovo, has now sabotaged it to prevent Linux kernels from booting" http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/corrosive-trolls/
01:30 TR Bot; Pale Moons Greed and Corrosive People (Boosted by Microsoft) in FOSS Communities | Techrights
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01:48 DaemonFC; "Here's a non-Mozilla news-item for the pile: Starting January 4, 2021, Google will block all sign-ins to Google accounts from embedded browser frameworks. So if you're the kind of person who says "I hate the dumbing-down of modern browsers like Chrome and Firefox, I'll use an alternative like surf or uzbl or something built on QtWebKit", well, good luck. The replies suggest you can keep...
01:48 DaemonFC; ...things working by adding a "yes, I promise I'm only using this browser for OAuth authentication" header to every request, but if you add that to *every* request I suspect Google will clamp down pretty quickly."
01:48 DaemonFC; :/
01:53 TR News; Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/
01:53 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights
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02:17 DaemonFC; " And here comes the problem, as the "web standards" these days are largely designed, written, approved and implemented by Google these days. The W3C just rubberstamps them for Google, and Mozilla these days are even lifting Chromium code wholesale to keep up with the latest Chromeisms. You may even say that there are no web standards anymore, but the "standard" is what Chrome does."
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Rust is a major problem for SeaMonkey.
02:23 DaemonFC; It's trapped on an old version of the compiler because Rust constantly breaks.
02:24 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey generally disables Rust components where possible and sticks to a compiler that works with the rest.
02:26 DaemonFC; "Thats putting side censorship issue"
02:27 DaemonFC; aside issues
02:27 DaemonFC; "The above video is long but unscriped"
02:27 DaemonFC; unscripted
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02:29 DaemonFC; http://helmet.kafuka.org/bboard/thread.php?id=48
02:29 TR Bot; Mozilla, *sigh* - bboard
02:29 DaemonFC; A four year old ongoing rant about Mozilla doing stupid things. To be fair, it is all basically true.
02:34 DaemonFC; https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/18/pale-moon-30-0-out-with-important-changes/
02:34 TR Bot; Pale Moon 30.0 out with important changes - gHacks Tech News
02:35 DaemonFC; M.C. Hitler went back and forth about changing the GUID and not changing it.
02:35 DaemonFC; "The new release restores support for legacy Firefox extensions, which users may once again install in the browser. Pale Moon exclusive extensions need to be updated to target the Firefox GUID as well."
02:36 DaemonFC; He changed it to make a Pale Moon specific GUID, and forced the extension developers to update the GUID to target Pale Moon because "Pale Moon isn't Firefox.".
02:37 DaemonFC; Then he went back to Firefox's GUID because few XUL extension developers even bothered to switch GUIDs, only now the ones that did have to reset the GUID back to the legacy Firefox GUID.
02:37 DaemonFC; What a mess.
02:38 DaemonFC; Reading through the release notes, it seems M.C. Hitler also rejects some Mozilla security patches that do apply to Pale Moon, if he _thinks_ it is too much work to actually attack the vulnerabilities.
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-210922.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022
02:39 DaemonFC; So in other words, there's definitely unpatched CVEs piling up in Pale Moon and whether M.C Hitler patches them or not is sort of arbitrary.
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-210922.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-210922.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022
02:41 DaemonFC; "Firefox is less likely to run out of memory on Linux and performs more efficiently for the rest of the system when memory runs low." in Firefox 105 release notes.
02:42 DaemonFC; Which change was this landed in?
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-210922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-210922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-210922.txt
02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022
02:45 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-21.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-21.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:58 DaemonFC; https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1707590
02:58 TR Bot; 1707590 - Initial implementation for JXL
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03:00 DaemonFC; That does sound good.
03:00 DaemonFC; JPEG bloat is a serious problem, but it's small compared to JavaScript bloat and huge style sheets and Web fonts.
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 152211 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42685 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 18 days ago
03:02 DaemonFC; https://repo.palemoon.org/MoonchildProductions/uxp/issues/58?lang=bg-BG
03:02 TR Bot; #58 - Get rid of rust - UXP - Pale Moon repositories
03:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: "We'll never use Rust components in UXP."
03:03 DaemonFC; Okay, well, there's something going for it.
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 48 GB TotalOut: 13 GB
03:03 DaemonFC; "We'll never use Rust components in UXP, so we need to get rid of what is weaved into the tree:
03:03 DaemonFC; MOZ_RUST_MP4PARSE and MP4 parser components
03:04 DaemonFC; MOZ_RUST_URLPARSE and URL parser components
03:04 DaemonFC; Rust NSString replacement
03:04 DaemonFC; MOZ_RUST build system and rust compiler, etc."
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 DaemonFC; The Rust replacement for the URLPARSE component was said because it handled untrusted input, but then they bloated the new URLPARSE by adding all kinds of crazy shit to it, including a moz://a URL handler.
03:05 DaemonFC; We're just running out of Web browsers that have no Rust in them at all.
03:06 DaemonFC; I don't think GNOME Web and WebkitGTK do, but Apple said they were "interested" in Rust.
03:06 DaemonFC; So perhaps that's just a matter of time.
03:15 DaemonFC; https://old.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/qnrelp/pale_moon_is_clearly_incompatible_with_the_bsds/
03:15 TR Bot; Pale Moon is clearly incompatible with the BSDs, so for a rust-free Gecko-type browser, why not Arctic Fox? : BSD
03:15 DaemonFC; " But BSD? Never again, the multi-year crusade against us for poor word order and a succession of incompetent developers/contributors trying to expand BSD capability has gone wrong too many times. Not one has ever BOTHERED to keep non-BSD building in mind."
03:17 DaemonFC; So Matt Tobin said, 10 months ago, that Pale Moon on BSD wasn't going to happen again because BSD devs would constantly break the builds on non-BSD systems with "incompetent" patches.
03:17 DaemonFC; And then PM devs would have to go back and correct or back out the patch and eventually they gave up. That's fair enough.
03:17 DaemonFC; But to suggest that taking open source PM code, not using the branding, and to come up with an unbranded variant for Windows XP or BSD systems is "stealing" is not correct.
03:19 DaemonFC; Most of Pale Moon itself was written by Mozilla. Releasing it as Pale Moon is fine because they're not misrepresenting it as Firefox or as a Mozilla product.
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:21 DaemonFC; "Some platforms have no Rust compiler. Right now, OpenBSD/macppc and OpenBSD/powerpc64 have no Rust compiler, but some other PowerPC platforms might have one."
03:21 DaemonFC; So Pale Moon can be ported to those (unbranded) but nothing recent from Mozilla, or even SeaMonkey. Interesting.
03:22 DaemonFC; "In the meantime, Mozilla doesn't allow official branding on NetBSD builds, so we have 'Nightly' in place of Firefox. And thanks God, nobody cares."
03:23 DaemonFC; You could always grab the source and configure it with --enable-branding if you want yours to say Firefox for some reason, but you'd be in trouble if you share it.
03:25 DaemonFC; MinceR: Apparently, the NetBSD change that Mozilla doesn't like patched out the Pulseaudio dependency.
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03:57 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: BTC-USD fell another $1,000 on the Fed's latest hike.
03:58 DaemonFC; Also, Biden's new "crypto" regulations.
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04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:38 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/21/waukegan-man-arrested-after-allegedly-confronting-woman-with-ar-15-pistol-during-altercation-over-affair-in-waukegan/
04:38 TR Bot; Waukegan man arrested after allegedly confronting woman with AR-15 pistol during altercation over affair in Waukegan
04:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i know this channel is dead now, but i tried #techpol and licenses/law arent politics, so i gave up (enjoy the netsplit) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aGSKrC7dGcY
04:39 TR Bot; Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence (Official Video) - Invidious
04:40 highest_cubist_thrills; but anyway
04:40 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S1xxcKCGljY
04:40 TR Bot; Men | ContraPoints - Invidious
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05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:30 DaemonFC; If Matt Tobin is violating the MPL, probably the only people who could do something about it are Mozilla. And they probably don't care about the violations. His alleged violations are regarding the Interlink UXP email client.
05:31 DaemonFC; RMS commented on Florida flying the illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard.
05:32 DaemonFC; He's probably upset because people in Massachusetts (where he lives) normally don't get very many of them and weren't planning on having to mobilize to do anything for them.
05:32 DaemonFC; Texas is right on the border and has millions and is sick of it, so they're busing them all over the place to lefty states that passed "sanctuary" laws.
05:33 DaemonFC; I don't see what's wrong with that. Give them what they say they want.
05:33 DaemonFC; "Immigrants are welcome here!"
05:33 DaemonFC; And then when they arrive, they of course....well, are not.
05:33 DaemonFC; They should start busing thousands of them to San Francisco.
05:34 DaemonFC; It's Nancy Pelosi's district, and it's where Matt GULAG lives.
05:34 DaemonFC; So how can you lose?
05:34 DaemonFC; Their city government doesn't seem to have much to do except fine people and make them prove a driveway is for parking cars.
05:34 DaemonFC; So sounds like they need more problems.\
05:34 CrystalMath; oh. Matt Tobin, that's the friend of that horrible palemoon developer guy?
05:35 DaemonFC; CrystalMathoh. Matt Tobin, that's the friend of that horrible palemoon developer guy?
05:35 DaemonFC; They had a falling out.
05:36 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: lol
05:42 AdmFubar; yeah those immigrants will make great new democratic voters!
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05:48 DaemonFC; It seems that Ambassador IRC can't connect to Libera Chat.
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06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:29 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/metra-train-fatally-strikes-pedestrian-in-mount-prospect/
06:29 TR Bot; Metra train fatally strikes woman in Mount Prospect | WGN-TV
06:29 DaemonFC; "A spokesperson said that the train was traveling express and was not scheduled to stop at Mount Prospect."
06:29 DaemonFC; Well, that's the way to do it.
06:30 AdmFubar; it's the robot uprising!
06:32 AdmFubar; don't lay on the floor.... your roomba will suck the blood outta ya like a vampire!
06:42 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-uk-workers-partial-day-off-queen-funeral-2022-9?utm_campaign=sf-bi-main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com
06:42 TR Bot; Amazon Didn't Give Warehouse Workers Full Day Off for Queen's Funeral
06:42 DaemonFC; You can like, watch the state funeral on-site for 90 minutes of personal time!
06:42 DaemonFC; LOL
06:43 DaemonFC; "The part-time worker told Insider he took some of his personal time off so he could watch the funeral with his family.
06:43 DaemonFC; "This is never going to happen again in my lifetime," he told Insider.
06:43 DaemonFC; "You've got to think of what she sacrificed all her life, and I think this is the right thing to do," he added."
06:43 DaemonFC; The Queen "sacrificed"?
06:44 DaemonFC; Gee, I want to sacrifice too, if sacrifice means living in a palace, on $50 million a year of taxpayer money, and pay no taxes, and be above the law.
06:48 AdmFubar; she sacrificed all that tax money
06:53 DaemonFC; Yeah, where did all of that go? I wonder if Roy knows.
06:54 AdmFubar; I thought this was going to be more medical oriented https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/22/evil-colon-attacks/
06:54 TR Bot; What you need to know about Evil-Colon attacks - Help Net Security
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07:07 AdmFubar; oh you are way of on the money amount my dear....
07:10 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V4LkqdD-26o
07:11 TR Bot; ABS Pump Failure Symptoms How To Test And Fix! - Invidious
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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08:23 matteobin; Good morning everyone!
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08:51 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, September 21, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
08:51 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
08:51 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
08:51 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
08:52 TR News; There are currently loads of puff pieces (mindless corporate fluff, no technical considerations) about Rust coming to Linux in the sense that Linux will become dependent on a monstrous shebang controlled by Microsoft proprietary software; a lot of developers very well understand the risk, but it feels like nobody wants to face the mob http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/
08:52 TR Bot; The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | Techrights
08:53 TR News; Pilot Priority List https://xkcd.com/2675/
08:53 TR Bot; Pilot Priority List
08:54 TR News; (NEW): Find Whether your USB Devices are Connected to Your Linux System using CLI & GUI Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/find_usb_information.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/find_usb_information.gmi
08:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Find Whether your USB Devices are Connected to Your Linux System using CLI & GUI Tools
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08:58 TR News; "Here's a rather useful feature Valve just added to a recent release of the Steam Beta Client." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/steam-beta-lets-you-create-a-collection-filtered-by-games-you-and-friends-own/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:58 TR Bot; Beta lets you create a collection filtered by games you and friends own | GamingOnLinux
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08:59 TR News; "While plenty of people use apps like Lutris, Heroic and Bottles there's also Minigalaxy which is a dedicated launcher just for GOG on Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/minigalaxy-a-simple-open-source-gog-client-for-linux-adds-lots-of-new-features/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:59 TR Bot; a simple open source GOG client for Linux adds lots of new features | GamingOnLinux
08:59 TR News; "Zoria: Age of Shattering from Tiny Trinket Games is not a name I've mentioned for a while but the developer is back with an updated demo" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/isometric-fantasy-rpg-zoria-age-of-shattering-gets-a-new-demo-and-kickstarter/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:59 TR Bot; fantasy RPG Zoria: Age of Shattering gets a new demo and Kickstarter | GamingOnLinux
09:00 TR News; "Unfortunately, Scathe in its current form doesnt hold baby demons first fireball to its recent Doom forebears" https://boilingsteam.com/scathe-review-impressions/ | Source: Boiling Steam
09:00 TR Bot; Scathe: Not The Doom You Are Looking For - Boiling Steam
09:00 TR News; "Lately Ive been having some weird problems with CircleCI and some of my OSS projects (most recently CIDER)" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/09/20/resetting-circleci-checkout-ssh-keys/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
09:00 TR Bot; Resetting CircleCI Checkout SSH Keys - (think)
09:00 TR News; "this means that ZFS does synchronous writes twice" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSZILSafeDirectWrites | Source: uni Toronto
09:00 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/solaris/ZFSZILSafeDirectWrites
09:02 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/irc-log-210922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/irc-log-210922/
09:02 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 | Techrights
09:09 matteobin; I'm listening right now to the video about Rust in Linux.
09:10 TR News; "Enter guix shell. If you are lucky, that project you want to hack on is one of the 21000+ packages available in Guix." https://gexp.no/blog/hacking-anything-with-gnu-guix.html |
09:10 TR Bot; Hacking anything with GNU Guix - Grasping gexps
09:10 TR News; "Betterbird 91.13.1 released on 13th September 2022" https://betterbird.eu/ |
09:10 TR Bot; Betterbird. Simply better.
09:11 TR News; "When we set up any HTTP redirection, we have historically tended to initially make them 'temporary' redirections" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/21/akka-fork-fud/?pk_campaign=rss&pk_kwd=link | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu
09:11 TR Bot; Akka Fork FUD - Alexandru Nedelcu
09:11 TR News; "The gssproxy project makes it possible to introduce privilege separation to reduce the attack surface." https://blog.josefsson.org/2022/09/20/privilege-separation-of-gss-api-credentials-for-apache/ | Source: Simon Josefsson
09:11 TR Bot; Privilege separation of GSS-API credentials for Apache Simon Josefsson's blog
09:11 TR News; "While it has been around longer, the pattern of using JavaScript to generate a page's content after delivery became particularly popular within the last 5-10 years." https://blog.webpagetest.org/posts/will-html-content-make-site-faster/ |
09:11 TR Bot; Will Serving Real HTML Content Make A Website Faster? Let's Experiment! - WebPageTest Blog
09:12 TR News; "Did you miss the old Firefox's feed reader feature? You can take it back by using Smart RSS" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/firefox-and-smart-rss-find-our-feed-reader-again.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
09:12 TR Bot; Firefox and Smart RSS: Find Our Feed Reader Again
09:13 TR News; "We have finished publishing a collection of very basic Calc Spreadsheet tutorials for beginner grade since January 2022" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/libreoffice-calc-spreadsheet-basic-tutorials-collection.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
09:13 TR Bot; LibreOffice Calc Spreadsheet Basic Tutorials Collection
09:14 TR News; "The pages of Open Circuits contain ample inspiration for both novices and grizzled veterans alike." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6558 | Source: Bunnie Huang
09:14 TR Bot; Book Review: Open Circuits bunnie's blog
09:14 TR News; "Lightbend made Akka proprietary from version 2.7.x onward. This left the community wondering about the possibility of a fork" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/21/akka-fork-fud/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu
09:14 TR Bot; Akka Fork FUD - Alexandru Nedelcu
09:15 TR News; About 90% of the Linux Foundations money is spent in the United States (see IRS filing); its not global but a front for American corporate interests so adding Europe to the name is misleading to say the least; http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/lf-openwashing-front-group/
09:15 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Europe a Front Group for Patent Trolls and American Monopolies | Techrights
09:16 TR News; My Contribution to Launching React Router 6.4 https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/my-contribution-to-react-router/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
09:16 TR Bot; My Contribution to Launching React Router 6.4 - Jim Nielsens Blog
09:17 TR News; "TTX is a Python script for reading the teletext pages published by SVT, Sweden's public service television company." https://www.datagubbe.se/ttx/ | Source: Carl Svensson
09:17 TR Bot; - Swedish Teletext reader | datagubbe.se
09:17 TR News; "The new release includes a substantial number of bug fixes and minor improvements." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/business-software/java-19-arrives.html | Source: IT Wire
09:17 TR Bot; - Java 19 arrives
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:21 TR News; On scientific arrogance gemini://november.smol.pub/arrogance
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09:23 schestowitz; "The far right has changed many words and phrases.
09:24 schestowitz; " gemini://idiomdrottning.org/integration
09:30 schestowitz; <li>
09:30 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/20/improve-your-astrophotography-quality-with-this-automatic-lens-heater/">Enhance your astrophotography quality with this automatic lens heater</a></h5>
09:30 TR Bot; Enhance your astrophotography quality with this automatic lens heater | Arduino Blog
09:30 schestowitz; <blockquote>
09:30 schestowitz; <p>Nighttime photography, and especially astrophotography, requires very long exposure. To get a good picture of the stars, you might leave the shutter open for several minutes. That gives nature plenty of time to produce dew on your lens, which can ruin the photo. The solution is a lens heater, but running that heater all night can consume a lot of power. Thats why Andrew Brocklesby built this automated
09:30 schestowitz; lens heater that only activates when necessary.</p>
09:30 schestowitz; </blockquote>
09:30 TR News; "Nighttime photography, and especially astrophotography, requires very long exposure." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/20/improve-your-astrophotography-quality-with-this-automatic-lens-heater/ | Source: Arduino
09:30 schestowitz; </li>
09:32 TR News; "In detail: On Friday September 16, students of the Simone Weil High School spent the afternoon inside the historic library" https://medforth.biz/paris-teacher-threatened-for-asking-a-pupil-to-take-off-her-islamic-headscarf/ | Source: Medforth
09:32 TR Bot; Paris: Teacher threatened for asking a pupil to take off her Islamic headscarf Allah's Willing Executioners
09:33 TR News; "You might be curious who still needs floppy disks in 2022" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/floppy-disk-still-has-life | Source: Tom's Hardware
09:33 TR Bot; Floppy Disk Kingpin Says Business Has About Four Years Before Hitting Eject Button | Tom's Hardware
09:34 TR News; "The agency issued a cybersecurity risk alert for the Medtronic MiniMed 600 Series insulin pump system" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/fda-warns-of-cybersecurity-risk-with-certain-medtronic-insulin-pumps/94350275 | Source: India Times
09:34 TR Bot; medtronic: FDA warns of cybersecurity risk with certain Medtronic insulin pumps, CIO News, ET CIO
09:34 TR News; "Three Tibetans have recently died from COVID-19 as the virus continues to spread across Chinas Tibet Autonomous Region" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/dead-09162022103647.html | Source: RFA
09:34 TR Bot; Three Tibetans reported dead from COVID as virus spreads Radio Free Asia
09:34 TR News; "I looked down at my phone to check the air quality index: AQI 122." ... wildfires https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/opinion/wildfires-climate-change-summer.html | Source: New York Times
09:34 TR Bot; Opinion | We Cant Let the Kids Go Outdoors: Our New Reality on the West Coast - The New York Times
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09:38 schestowitz[TR]; <matteobin> I'm listening right now to the video about Rust in Linux.
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; hopefully covered the key things
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; not scripted
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09:42 TR News; "The vulnerability is present in the desktop versions of Teams for Windows, macOS and Linux." https://www.ghacks.net/2022/09/16/microsoft-teams-is-storing-authentication-tokens-in-cleartext/ | Source: Ghacks
09:42 TR Bot; Microsoft Teams is storing authentication tokens in cleartext. - gHacks Tech News
09:42 TR News; "Security firm Vectra Protect claims the weakness affects the desktop app for Windows, Mac, and Linux" https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4056512/microsoft-teams-stores-authentication-tokens-plaintext | Source: Computing UK
09:42 TR Bot; Microsoft Teams stores authentication tokens in plaintext
09:42 TR News; "The affair also raises suspicions of performative tokenism on the part of some tech giants" https://www.cyberscoop.com/twitter-mudge-survival-of-the-quittest/ | Source: Scoop News Group
09:42 TR Bot; Mudge and survival of the quittest - CyberScoop
09:42 TR News; (NEW): Debian GNU/Linux 12 Bookworm Installer Adds Windows 11 Detection, New ARM Devices http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Debian_GNU_Linux_12_Bookworm_Installer_Adds_Windows_11_Detectio.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Debian_GNU_Linux_12_Bookworm_Installer_Adds_Windows_11_Detectio.gmi
09:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Debian GNU/Linux 12 Bookworm Installer Adds Windows 11 Detection, New ARM Devices
09:45 TR News; "Then, each time a connection is attempted, the service will pose a sort of riddle to the smartphone, a "challenge"..." https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2022/09/21/no-more-passwords-passkeys-explained-in-three-questions_5997728_19.html | Source: Le Monde
09:45 TR Bot; No more passwords? Passkeys explained in three questions
09:45 TR News; "Kevin Beaumont, a cyber-pundit who also goes by his Twitter handle @GossiTheDog, said the hack had probably been augmented by a remote-code execution script" https://cybernews.com/news/trolling-forum-kiwi-farms-admits-being-hacked/ |
09:45 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://cybernews.com/news/trolling-forum-kiwi-farms-admits-being-hacked/ )
09:45 TR News; 3FA https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/credit-card-fraud-that-bypasses-2fa.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
09:45 TR Bot; Card Fraud That Bypasses 2FA - Schneier on Security
09:46 TR News; "In a ruling delivered today, the EU Court of Justice dismissed German legislation on general and indiscriminate retention of call data" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/data-retention-ruling-lets-free-europe-from-mass-surveillance-and-general-suspicion/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
09:46 TR Bot; Data retention ruling: Lets free Europe from mass surveillance and general suspicion! Patrick Breyer
09:46 TR News; "The data is maintained for 15 years, the Post said. Officials declined to say how long the practice has gone on." https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/21/customs-border-patrol-collecting-data/69507093007/ | Source: Gannett
09:46 TR News; "The data is maintained for 15 years, the Post said. Officials declined to say how long the practice has gone on." https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/21/customs-border-patrol-collecting-data/69507093007/ | Source: Gannett
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09:47 TR News; "The Washington Post is reporting that the US Customs and Border Protection agency is seizing and copying cell phone" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/large-scale-collection-of-cell-phone-data-at-us-borders.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
09:47 TR Bot; Collection of Cell Phone Data at US Borders - Schneier on Security
09:48 TR News; "Details of the database were revealed Thursday in a letter to CBP Commissioner Chris Magnus from Sen. Ron Wyden" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/15/government-surveillance-database-dhs/ | Source: The Washington Post
09:48 TR Bot; DHS built huge database from cellphones, computers seized at border - The Washington Post
09:48 TR News; "Since Amazon announced its Sidewalk Network in 2019, Ive been eagerly awaiting the Low-Power Wide-Area Network" https://staceyoniot.com/everything-i-could-find-out-about-amazons-sidewalk-network/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
09:48 TR Bot; Everything I could find out about Amazon's Sidewalk Network - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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09:53 TR News; "details about the specific content that Facebook and Twitter chose to remove from their platforms are relatively scarce" https://futurism.com/the-byte/us-military-social-psyop-bots | Source: Futurism
09:53 TR Bot; US Military Annoyed When Facebook and Twitter Removed Its PSYOP Bots
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10:04 TR News; "Regulation of cryptocurrencies in the US is coming, albeit too slowly." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/09/white-house-statement-on-cryptcurrency.html | Source: David Rosenthal
10:04 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: White House Statement On Cryptocurrency Regulation
10:04 TR News; "With the change enacted late Wednesday, ethereum the world's second most valuable cryptocurrency after bitcoin has effectively eliminated the energy-intensive task of "mining" new coins on its blockchain." https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ethereum-merge-1.6584585 | Source: CBC
10:04 TR Bot; Ethereum network completes merge that could cut its electricity use by 99% | CBC News
10:06 TR News; TikTok AstroTurf https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3654462-tiktok-updating-policies-for-political-accounts-after-report-of-rampant-misinformation/ | Source: The Hill
10:06 TR Bot; TikTok updating policies for political accounts after report of rampant misinformation | The Hill
10:06 TR News; "It's no secret that Meta-formerly-Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse pivot isn't exactly paying off yet" https://futurism.com/the-byte/mark-zuckerberg-big-trouble | Source: Futurism
10:06 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg Is in Big, Big Trouble
10:07 TR News; "Instead, the documents guidance contains a mixture of impractical, confusing, confused, and even dangerous recommendations" https://swagitda.com/blog/posts/securing-the-supply-chain-of-nothing/ |
10:07 TR Bot; Securing the Supply Chain of Nothing | Kelly Shortridge
10:07 TR News; "open source project: a software project where the source code is freely released under an open source license" https://mikemcquaid.com/entitlement-in-open-source/ |
10:07 TR Bot; Entitlement in Open Source | Mike McQuaid
10:08 TR News; Open Source Business Alliance (OSBA) https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/germany-launches-opencodede | Source: Joinup
10:08 TR Bot; Germany launches opencode.de | Joinup
10:09 TR News; Misinformation https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/20/technology/youtube-recommendations.html | Source: New York Times
10:09 TR Bot; YouTubes Dislike Button Rarely Shifts Recommendations, Researchers Say - The New York Times
10:09 TR News; "TikTok said Wednesday that it will require the accounts of politicians and political parties to be verified" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/tiktok-sets-new-verification-rules-politicians-political-parties-rcna48771 | Source: NBC
10:09 TR Bot; TikTok sets new verification rules for politicians and political parties
10:09 TR News; "In a review conducted by NBC News, users were found posting videos with emojis and slight wording variations in hashtags to evade QAnon hashtag bans" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/qanon-tiktok-trump-salute-theme-song-embraces-conspiracy-theory-rcna48641 | Source: NBC
10:09 TR Bot; QAnon videos are getting millions of views on TikTok as Trump embraces conspiracy theory
10:11 TR News; "Network data from NetBlocks confirm a near-total disruption disruption to internet service in parts of Kurdistan" https://netblocks.org/reports/internet-disrupted-in-iran-amid-protests-over-death-of-mahsa-amini-X8qVEwAD | Source: Netblocks
10:11 TR Bot; Internet disrupted in Iran amid protests over death of Mahsa Amini - NetBlocks
10:12 TR News; "The rhythm of openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshots being released this week continues at a steady pace." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/09/21/vb-grep-gawk-up-in-tw/ |
10:12 TR Bot; Virtualbox, grep, gawk update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News
10:13 TR News; How To Install VMware Workstation On Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-vmware-workstation-on-ubuntu/
10:13 TR Bot; How To Install VMware Workstation On Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04
10:14 TR News; "Khadas officially launched the Edge2 SBC featuring the powerful octa-core Rockchip RK3588S SoC along with a 6 TOPS performance NPU." https://linuxgizmos.com/new-khadas-edge2-sbc-launches-at-199/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
10:14 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/new-khadas-edge2-sbc-launches-at-199/ )
10:17 TR News; "mysqladmin is a command-line database administration utility that comes with MySQL/MariaDB server" https://www.tecmint.com/mysqladmin-commands-for-database-administration-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint
10:17 TR Bot; 20 mysqladmin Commands for MYSQL/MariaDB Administration
10:19 TR News; "When you start a Linux system, it starts with only one process, a program called init" https://linuxhandbook.com/check-if-systemd/ | Source: Linux Handbook
10:19 TR Bot; Check if You Are Using Systemd or Not in Linux
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:21 TR News; "I manage my code, shell scripts, and documentation versioning using Git." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/git-configuration-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
10:21 TR Bot; Git configurations I make on Linux | Opensource.com
10:21 TR News; "The e-RouteCAM_CU20 is a 2MP PoE (Power-over-Ethernet) GigE camera developed by e-con Systems." https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-gige-camera-supports-poe/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
10:21 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-gige-camera-supports-poe/ )
10:23 TR News; "Claims of constitutional violations can only be brought by US citizens" https://jacobin.com/2022/09/julian-assange-cia-uc-global-morales-ecuadorian-embassy-spying/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
10:23 TR Bot; Secret Documents Have Exposed the CIAs Julian Assange Obsession
10:23 TR News; "nothing more serious that threatens the First Amendment" https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2022/9/9929gkpuq3cxglozh5oh0zbobo6ivu |
10:23 TR Bot; Laura Poitras Slams Hilary Clintons Presence at TIFF, Defends Julian Assange World of Reel
10:25 TR News; "Specifically, the Human Rights Commissioner criticises the enisioned message screening on private smartphones" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/un-human-rights-commissioner-warns-against-chat-control/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
10:25 TR Bot; UN Human Rights Commissioner warns against chat control Patrick Breyer
10:25 TR News; UN 'Alarmed' At Iranian Detainee's Death (while ignoring what UK does to Assange???) https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-amini-death-protests-un-pressure/32042840.html | Source: RFERL
10:25 TR Bot; UN 'Alarmed' At Iranian Detainee's Death, Pressure On Tehran Mounts Amid Protests
10:26 TR News; "He was evicted a few days later for unrelated reasons, he said and is now living out of his car." https://www.cyberscoop.com/canadian-hacker-aubrey-cottle-raid/ | Source: Scoop News Group
10:26 TR Bot; hacker, who bragged about exploits on TikTok, says he was raided by Canadian police - CyberScoop
10:27 TR News; "A second notable development has been the rise of cloud-based public resolvers" https://labs.ripe.net/author/andrew_campling/is-it-possible-for-encryption-to-harm-cybersecurity/ | Source: RIPE
10:27 TR Bot; Is It Possible for Encryption to Harm Cybersecurity? | RIPE Labs
10:27 TR News; "With this rise, the total number of broadband internet subscribers nationwide has reached 88.2 million" https://bianet.org/english/life/267367-number-of-broadband-internet-users-in-turkiye-rose-by-over-41-percent-in-six-years | Source: BIA Net
10:27 TR Bot; Number of broadband internet users in Trkiye rose by over 41 percent in six years - english
10:28 TR News; "The Cyclon program work like this: You sign up for the Cyclon subscription service and get a pair of shoes in the mail." https://fighttorepair.substack.com/p/the-subscription-economy-comes-for |
10:28 TR Bot; The Subscription Economy Comes For Your Shoes
10:30 TR News; "Microsoft was planning to move WSL to the next stage" EMBRACE, EXTEND... https://debugpointnews.com/systemd-microsoft/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/
10:30 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://debugpointnews.com/systemd-microsoft/ )
10:30 TR Bot; Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights
10:31 TR News; Attacks on GNU/Linux by criminals from Microsoft and their bribe facilitators at Canonical https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-and-canonical-bring-systemd-support-to-wsl/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/
10:31 TR Bot; Microsoft and Canonical bring systemd support to WSL - Neowin
10:32 TR News; Microsoft: fires 10% of staff, hires people to attack GNU/Linux
10:33 TR News; "This is the power of the picket line and the power of the people." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/after-64-day-strike-boston-starbucks-workers-declare-victory | Source: Common Dreams
10:33 TR Bot; After 64-Day Strike, Boston Starbucks Workers Declare Victory
10:35 TR News; old: When EFF did real work https://www.eff.org/pages/us-v-elcomsoft-sklyarov-faq#Jurisdiction
10:35 TR Bot; US v. ElcomSoft & Sklyarov FAQ | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:35 TR News; open circuits https://nostarch.com/open-circuits
10:35 TR Bot; Open Circuits | No Starch Press
10:35 TR News; Bright New Satellites Join a Crowded Sky Here's How You Can Help - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/20/1227235 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/09/20/1227235
10:35 TR Bot; Bright New Satellites Join a Crowded Sky Here's How You Can Help - SoylentNews
10:36 TR News; Great Escape prisoner Vyvyan Howard, dies aged 102 - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-62924112 Source: BillBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-62924112
10:36 TR Bot; Great Escape prisoner Vyvyan Howard, dies aged 102 - BBC News
10:38 TR News; old: "abuses"??? http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linus-Torvalds-abuses-NVIDIA-over-Optimus-support-1618766.html
10:38 TR Bot; Linus Torvalds abuses NVIDIA over Optimus support - The H Open: News and Features
10:48 TR News; Russia https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.muylinux.com/2022/09/21/rusia-windows-linux-de-verdad/
10:48 TR Bot; Rusia insiste en deshacerse de Windows y apostar por Linux
10:50 TR News; Coffin-shaped office chairs cause work is killing you | Boing Boing https://boingboing.net/2022/09/21/coffin-shaped-office-chairs-cause-work-is-killing-you.html Source: BoingBoing | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boingboing.net/2022/09/21/coffin-shaped-office-chairs-cause-work-is-killing-you.html
10:50 TR Bot; Coffin-shaped office chairs 'cause work is killing you | Boing Boing
10:53 TR News; "he started attacking you because you wrote about drm" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.html#tSep%2021%2023:25:13
10:53 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022
10:54 TR News; "they didn't respond to my legal and technical arguments; instead they threw baseless innuendo, insinuating Rust critics are somehow transphobic. Welcome to the new Maoism." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-210922.html#tSep%2021%2022:44:17
10:54 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 21, 2022
10:58 TR News; Use a REAL OS, not this broken malware, and you won't need to "reset" it https://www.maketecheasier.com/reset-reinstall-windows-without-losing-files/
10:58 TR Bot; How to Reset/Reinstall Windows Without Losing Your Files - Make Tech Easier
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 148.90
11:01 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.gmi
11:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
11:02 TR News; Or just don't use "apps" AT ALL https://internetfreedom.in/5questions-to-ask-before-installing-an-app/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/03/privacy-of-mobile-phones/
11:02 TR Bot; #5Questions to ask before installing an app
11:02 TR Bot; The Privacy Problem Associated With All Mobile Phones (Even Dumb Ones) is Worse Than Snowden Put It | Techrights
11:03 TR News; "its ubuntu" is in Microsoft spam mode again, doing WINDOWS-ONLY webspam. WWW is hopeless. https://itsubuntu.com/best-144hz-laptops/
11:03 TR Bot; 144Hz Gaming Laptops In 2022 | Itsubuntu.com
11:04 TR News; "Hello all. It's been a while. As you may have guessed there will not be a workshop this year. We spoke about organising one but the uncertainty around restrictions, along with other organisational constraints, resulted in our decision not to." http://blogs.perl.org/users/lpw/2022/09/london-perl-workshop-status-update-2023.html
11:04 TR Bot; Perl Workshop: Status Update & 2023 | lpw [blogs.perl.org]
11:05 TR News; "This Week in Rust is openly developed on GitHub." This is a lie and a paradox. If you are using GitHub, you do NOT develop openly!! https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2022/09/21/this-week-in-rust-461/
11:05 TR Bot; This Week in Rust 461 This Week in Rust
11:07 TR News; Microsoft the back doors company https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/21/microsoft-releases-out-band-security-update-microsoft-endpoint see http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
11:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Releases Out-of-Band Security Update for Microsoft Endpoint Configuration Manager | CISA
11:07 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
11:12 matteobin; What do you think as Go as a language?
11:18 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Xfce Quick overview http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Mint_21_Vanessa_Xfce_Quick_overview.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Mint_21_Vanessa_Xfce_Quick_overview.gmi
11:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Xfce Quick overview
11:19 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: seems rather extensive
11:19 schestowitz[TR]; but maybe others have more experience
11:19 schestowitz[TR]; also, it is controlled by a company I don't trust
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:20 TR News; "Woo hoo! I just received the shipping label to return Satan, the useless Windows Laptop [1]!" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/02/23.3
11:20 TR News; SSH Notes gemini://nuacht.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-09-21-ssh.gmi
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11:22 schestowitz; "
11:22 schestowitz; That same day, a heated debate started on Twitter (as if that weren't the norm there). That's because the winner of this art contest used Midjourney, a popular AI image generator, to create his entry" gemini://birabittoh.smol.pub/ai-art-contest
11:23 schestowitz; "
11:23 schestowitz; He created this because he saw _art as a relic of the artist_. Any object or even person can become an art piece if an artist puts his sign on it. But how do you become an artist? By making something that makes people discuss, something new and innovative that nobody ever thought about doing before. That's what Mr. Allen did and that's why I think he deserves his price.
11:23 schestowitz; Before photography was invented, artists generally strove to make their painting as realistic as possible. As soon as people were able to cheaply make perfect copies of reality, artists began experimenting with new techniques, things that a camera could never do. Allen showed everyone how technology just reached a new milestone, introducing a new need for artists to innovate and create something exclusive to their abilities. Something an AI can't
11:23 schestowitz; reproduce. Yet.
11:23 schestowitz; "
11:23 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: ^
11:23 schestowitz[TR]; of interest?
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11:26 TR News; Notice how Pro Publica does not touch Famous Criminal Bill Gates but is distracting from Gates because Gates is BRIBING Pro Publica. Pro Publica = corruption. https://www.propublica.org/article/chicago-housing-abla-land-deal
11:26 TR Bot; A Land Deal Benefiting a Billionaires Soccer Team Is Muscled Through Despite Objections ProPublica
11:27 TR News; "During the summer Bungie sued a Destiny 2 cheater who allegedly evaded multiple bans and harassed Bungie's staff." https://torrentfreak.com/that-rude-kid-sued-by-bungie-for-cheating-in-destiny-2-is-fighting-back-220921/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:27 TR Bot; Sued By Bungie Over Cheats & Threats Comes Out Fighting * TorrentFreak
11:27 TR News; "Internet provider Earthlink has reached a tentative settlement with several filmmakers, to end an ongoing piracy liability lawsuit." https://torrentfreak.com/earthlink-reaches-tentative-settlement-with-filmmakers-to-end-piracy-liability-lawsuit-220921/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:27 TR Bot; Reaches 'Tentative' Settlement with Filmmakers to End Piracy Liability Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
11:28 TR News; "A Florida teenager who served as a lackey for a cybercriminal group that specializes in cryptocurrency thefts was beaten and kidnapped last week" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/09/sim-swapper-abducted-beaten-held-for-200k-ransom/ | Source: Krebs On Security
11:28 TR Bot; SIM Swapper Abducted, Beaten, Held for $200k Ransom Krebs on Security
11:29 TR News; "wage growth will need to slow" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/ignoring-pain-workers-bloomberg-editorial-openly-endorses-fed-induced-recession | Source: Common Dreams
11:29 TR Bot; Ignoring Pain for Workers, Bloomberg Editorial Openly Endorses Fed-Induced Recession
11:30 TR News; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OnLogic_IGN800_Industrial_Raspberry_Pi_Edge_Gateway_runs_Igniti.shtml
11:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines OnLogic IGN800 Industrial Raspberry Pi Edge Gateway runs Ignition Edge software
11:30 TR News; (NEW): OnLogic IGN800 Industrial Raspberry Pi Edge Gateway runs Ignition Edge software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OnLogic_IGN800_Industrial_Raspberry_Pi_Edge_Gateway_runs_Igniti.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OnLogic_IGN800_Industrial_Raspberry_Pi_Edge_Gateway_runs_Igniti.gmi
11:31 TR News; Climate https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/21/climate-lawyers-take-aim-at-green-heating-scheme-fed-by-incinerator/ | Source: DeSmog
11:32 TR Bot; Lawyers Take Aim at 'Green' Heating Scheme Fed by Incinerator - DeSmog
11:32 MinceR; 22 042547 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Apparently, the NetBSD change that Mozilla doesn't like patched out the Pulseaudio dependency.
11:32 MinceR; i wonder how much dehomag is paying mozilla to force that crap on people
11:33 DaemonFC; "Biden has spent the entire Summer floundering about the state of the economy.
11:33 DaemonFC; Finally, this culminated in his Its all about how you feel, Jack! definition, and then he went off and, I dont know, ate another ice cream cone.
11:33 DaemonFC; (He probably didnt even know what that cost. Rich people and politicians, the same thing really, have spent so many years disconnected from reality that they tend to guess orders of magnitude wrong about average wages and what common items cost.)
11:33 DaemonFC; But even by Bidens Does it feel like a recession? test, he walked onto another rake, because now even CNN isnt trying to hide the fact that the Consumer Sentiment Index has hit its lowest level since Jimmy Carter was in the White House."
11:33 DaemonFC; From a post I'm writing.
11:36 DaemonFC; "The Consumer Sentiment Index basically is a "How do you feel?" survey. People are losing their jobs now that interest rates are rising, even though they're still very low, but it has less to do with that (sorry, Mr. Stallman) than it does with the fact that people are so broke from Bidenflation that they have to stop discretionary spending to redirect funds to buying eggs, butter, milk, bread, rent, and transportation to work. If Mr. Stallman
11:36 DaemonFC; were an economist, he'd know that one does not simply hyperinflate their way to prosperity."
11:39 DaemonFC; "Some people who are still in denial about hyperinflation and whether it's caused by Biden and Democrats printing up another trillion dollars every week and stating that it's an attempt to control the weather using battery cars, point to other badly-managed economies where hyperinflation rages. In Europe, they print, tax, and spend even worse than the US does, and this comes on top of years spent building up their energy markets on the
11:39 DaemonFC; assumption that Vladimir Putin would continue being the Santa Claus of cheap natural gas."
11:42 DaemonFC; "Germany announced yesterday that it would "invest" in the energy company that imports Russian gas by spending $8 billion to nationalize it. Some investment. Putin has turned off the gas, so one does wonder how one frames this as an investment. It's even worse than that time the US federal government "invested" in failing bank shares and General Motors."
11:42 MinceR; > If Mr. Stallman were an economist, he'd know that one does not simply hyperinflate their way to prosperity.
11:42 MinceR; i'm not so sure about that
11:42 MinceR; economy isn't much of a science, and that's generous
11:45 schestowitz[TR]; economics
11:45 schestowitz[TR]; they made up a price for it
11:45 schestowitz[TR]; *prize
11:45 schestowitz[TR]; and they wrongly call it "Nobel"
11:45 schestowitz[TR]; it's about how to manage man-made "resources"
11:45 schestowitz[TR]; (money)
11:45 MinceR; who cares
11:45 MinceR; there's also a peace prize
11:45 MinceR; and that's also totally fraudulent
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; yeah :-)
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; i think it was not always this bad
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; hitler wa nominated
11:46 schestowitz[TR]; but anyone can be NOMINATED
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; you could even nominate some frog
11:47 schestowitz[TR]; or a gay frog
11:50 MinceR; :>
11:51 DaemonFC; "The US economy today is not the envy of the world based upon people getting up every morning and going to a good union job to produce widgets to sell, so most of the public was teetering on the verge of bankruptcy even before illegal "COVID" lockdowns and dictators such as Illinois Governor Pritzker who pretty much just usurped the legislative power by claiming that the Illinois Emergency Management Act lets him rewrite any law he wants as
11:51 DaemonFC; long as he remembers to hit the SNOOZ button and reset the "emergency" for another 30 days by executive order. "
11:51 DaemonFC; "In reality, the IEMA says that he can only do some of what he says he can for 30 days, and then the legislature must renew the "emergency", which means that his actions have been illegal since May of 2020, but nobody will stop him."
11:52 DaemonFC; "We live in a country where half the states are "governed" by such people (Democrats) who have such open contempt for all of the people that work for a living that they've ruined millions of lives simply to claw Donald Trump out of office, then found that they like the powers that they gave themselves and won't be terminating the "emergency"."
11:53 TR News; (NEW): AAEON ARES-500AI embedded box PC features 22 TOPS Huawei Atlas 200 AI accelerator module http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/AAEON_ARES_500AI_embedded_box_PC_features_22_TOPS_Huawei_Atlas_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/AAEON_ARES_500AI_embedded_box_PC_features_22_TOPS_Huawei_Atlas_.gmi
11:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines AAEON ARES-500AI embedded box PC features 22 TOPS Huawei Atlas 200 AI accelerator module
11:53 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.gmi
11:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
11:53 TR News; (NEW): GNOME Builder 43.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNOME_Builder_43_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNOME_Builder_43_0.gmi
11:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNOME Builder 43.0
11:56 DaemonFC; "From my perspective, even with two incomes, no kids, and the cheapest apartment we can find in the whole damned city, life is getting hard. I feel like there's no way to gain ground. Even buying a goddamned gas station breakfast sandwich and coffee this morning on the way back from taking my spouse to work cost me $9.70. Under Biden, this has gone up by roughly $4 vs just the last year. Countries operated like this end up like Nigeria, or even
11:56 DaemonFC; the US Continental Dollar, where next thing you know, there are trillion dollar bills and you need to hurry up and spend them before a breakfast sandwich and a coffee are two trillion dollars, and then the currency fails because nobody will accept it anymore."
11:58 DaemonFC; "Hyperinflation also contributes to political instability. In Germany, people became so sick of their ruined economy that they felt they had nothing to lose, personally, and elected Hitler."
11:59 MinceR; have they tried undamned gas station breakfast sandwiches?
12:04 MinceR; https://i.ibb.co/PTCpCcv/1663796308253729.jpg
12:07 XRevan86; MinceR: That feels like sarcasm.
12:07 TR News; "DeSantis latest stunt sheds light on the treatment of migrants by the countrys top politicians" https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/21/mark-fiore-sending-migrants-around-the-country-cruelty-travel/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:07 TR Bot; Fiore: Sending Migrants Around the Country: Cruelty Travel scheerpost.com
12:07 TR News; Philadelphia https://truthout.org/articles/philadelphia-home-depot-workers-file-to-form-companys-first-ever-retail-union/ | Source: TruthOut
12:07 TR Bot; Philadelphia Home Depot Workers File to Form Companys First Ever Retail Union
12:07 MinceR; XRevan86: then he can go to ukraine and die sarcastically.
12:09 *XRevan86 is checking the feed.
12:11 XRevan86; MinceR: https://nitter.it/DasRgen/status/1569932398803959809
12:11 TR Bot; (@DasRgen): "While everyone is distracted in #Kharkov and #Kherson we blitzkrieg #Kyiv 100,000 North Koreans storm the West and our glorious army the East, then with a pincer movement we crush the capital (2/4)"|nitter.it
12:11 XRevan86; I can't tell if he's insane or has a very special trolly type of humour.
12:12 MinceR; probably insane
12:13 psydruid; and now he is in Georgia apparently
12:14 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/EntireYep/status/1567926286680576007#m
12:14 TR Bot; (@EntireYep): "Decent parody account, don't give it away"|nitter.it
12:14 TR News; "If you do what the people want, and not what the corporate world wants or billionaire campaign contributors want, you win elections." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/sanders-says-gop-plot-tank-student-debt-relief-will-hurt-them-politically | Source: Common Dreams
12:14 TR Bot; Sanders Says GOP Plot to Tank Student Debt Relief Will 'Hurt Them Politically'
12:14 XRevan86; MinceR: I think the latter.
12:15 XRevan86; Besides, this account used to write in Portuguese.
12:16 MinceR; :>
12:18 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/22/buick-anti-lock-brake-module-costs-790-to-replace-and-reprogram-also-richard-stallman-is-not-an-economist-and-the-post-covid-american-dystopia/
12:18 TR Bot; Buick Anti-Lock Brake Module costs $790 to replace and reprogram. Also, Richard Stallman is not an economist, and the Post-COVID American dystopia. | BaronHK's Rants
12:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
12:18 DaemonFC; "The digital natives are getting restless.
12:18 DaemonFC; Polling has shown that even young voters are finished with Biden and the Democrats.
12:18 DaemonFC; Hes resorted to a vote buying program of bailing them out of their student loans, which left them with a head full of liberal college mush (you have to go to college and pay $60,000 to learn that white people are responsible, collectively, through corruption of blood, for everything bad thats ever happened or which will happen at some future date).
12:18 DaemonFC; Liberal college mush that gets them nowhere instead of a job.
12:18 DaemonFC; Will the forgiveness win any of them back into the fold or will any of them remember that they need to eat and that theres something even worse than their student loans going on in this country? "
12:19 psydruid; taking the p*** out of everyone
12:19 psydruid; a Portuguese in Georgia?
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:20 XRevan86; psydruid: It's just a meme account, none of it is real.
12:20 DaemonFC; "If things get too good, were just another pandemic away from more lockdowns, more emergency powers.
12:20 DaemonFC; Who knows?
12:20 DaemonFC; Governor Pritzker already had his I am the Senate! moment. Perhaps next hell officially dissolve the Senate. They are kind of pesky.
12:20 DaemonFC; His own party has over 75% of the seats and he still has to go around them. His nominee to the parole board was recently rejected because the Democrats were panicking about more murderers and child rapists being let loose on Chicago during an election year, and decided to leave the seat empty so the board couldnt get a quorum.
12:20 DaemonFC; Maybe that law needs suspended as well, due to COVID."
12:20 DaemonFC; XRevan86, I don't think the United States is so different from Russia, really.
12:20 DaemonFC; The Democrats have learned that they can do anything as long as they say it's because of COVID-19.
12:21 TR News; Ultrarich https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/21/number-of-ultrarich-hits-all-time-high-as-someone-dies-from-hunger-every-4-seconds/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:21 TR Bot; of Ultrarich Hits All-Time High as Someone Dies From Hunger Every 4 Seconds scheerpost.com
12:21 DaemonFC; And people are stupid enough to go along with it.
12:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR] is like RMS. Smart enough that he should see this for what it is.
12:21 DaemonFC; But doesn't.
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: no, you are not the smart one
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; you rushed for jabs
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; across the state
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; 3 times
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; now we know those jabs did not slve the probelm
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; I can give you us links from this morning
12:22 DaemonFC; When they were making a mountain out of a mole hill.
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; and me... I kept distance
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; my mom got covid-19 three times already
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; after 4 jabs
12:22 schestowitz[TR]; so it's not really protecting her
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; mrna
12:23 DaemonFC; And we haven't had it once, despite not even wearing masks for the last 9 months or so.
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; summer 2020 was better than this past summer
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; less deaths
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; far fewer in fact
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; saame for hospital admissions
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; see my personal blog
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; I write about it about 3 times a week
12:23 DaemonFC; The vaccine companies are spending a lot of money crapflooding the advertising channels about the "new booster". Ads at the movies, ads on the radio, ads everywhere.
12:23 schestowitz[TR]; today they will relase more number in the evening
12:24 DaemonFC; A hospital playing horror music while talking about COVID and saying it's all the fault of people who refuse 5 jabs that still don't prevent it in most people.
12:24 schestowitz[TR]; they use guilt tactics a
12:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], This is how you control people.
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; and peer shame
12:25 DaemonFC; Frighten and shame.
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; "i took this risky untested thing"
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; "why don't you?"
12:25 DaemonFC; RMS repeats their tactics.
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; "if something gfoes wrong, I want you TOO to suffer the damage"
12:25 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile I stay home
12:25 DaemonFC; Like some sort of stupid robot.
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; on covid and many issuies, rms is programmed by Bill Gates' guardian
12:26 DaemonFC; RMS is just weird, you know.
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; would you trust gates as a guardian of children
12:26 schestowitz[TR]; or child-like adults?
12:26 DaemonFC; He basically has no chance of living to see "climate change" do anything serious.
12:26 DaemonFC; Even if it's every bit as bad as he claims it is.
12:26 DaemonFC; But it's like 3/4ths of his blog churn.
12:26 DaemonFC; RMS parrots Bill Gates.
12:27 psydruid; has RMS completely lost it in his old age?
12:27 DaemonFC; It's like Gates is a parasitic wasp that stuck its proboscis into RMS's brain.
12:27 DaemonFC; Forcing him to march to his own death so Gates can lay eggs in the corpse.
12:28 TR News; Trojans https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/trojans-can-lurk-inside-avr-bootloaders/ | Source: Hackaday
12:28 TR Bot; Can Lurk Inside AVR Bootloaders | Hackaday
12:29 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is a sleazebag. He makes no big secret about it. It's nakedly obvious who and what he is. Who he pals around with. People like Mr. Pizza. "DOCTOR PIZZA, thank you! I did not spend 8 years at Kiddie Raping School to be called Mr.!" :) Microsoft people. "Doctor Pizza" (current location: federal prison) was also lobbying to get rid of me.
12:30 DaemonFC; Making all the same points that mjg59_ does.
12:30 TR News; "When the Elon Musk/Twitter drama landed in the Delaware Court Of Chancery, it thrust specialist publication The Chancery Daily into the spotlight" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/techdirt-podcast-episode-330-elon-musk-takes-his-chances-in-the-court-of-chancery/ | Source: Techdirt
12:30 TR Bot; Podcast Episode 330: Elon Musk Takes His Chances In The Court Of Chancery | Techdirt
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it seems increasingly lucif
12:30 DaemonFC; And schestowitz[TR] told him, in logs, "Yes, I've been thinking about getting rid of DaemonFC for his disorderly conduct.".
12:30 DaemonFC; Said it to Dr. Pizza!
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: exists to distract from the real scandals
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; from real security
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; from ethics
12:30 DaemonFC; Back during the Linsux days of USENET.
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; but attacking those who expose criminalks
12:30 schestowitz[TR]; by promoting FAKE security
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; (read: BACK DOORS)
12:31 DaemonFC; And then they went back to USENET and laughed that they almost had me silenced.
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; and media paid by the likes of him then boosts his lies
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; while name-calling the sane people
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; and flinging around words like "rape"
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; in relation to people who never even "Stole a kiss"
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; so he is noit a bullshit artist
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; but more like a snake and spy
12:31 schestowitz[TR]; keep your distance fromm him
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; he's no better than the GCHQ moles who did-in their OWN words - a "fit up" job on Assange
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; iow, framing him
12:32 DaemonFC; People like mjg59_ who have made all the same arguments for getting rid of me that he does, are now in the federal pen for 12 years.
12:32 DaemonFC; I mean, consider that.
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; if there's a revolution the masses first go after the pspies
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; the moles
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; notice how he always picks pon vulnerable people
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; like eunemployed guy in IL
12:32 schestowitz[TR]; who is GAY
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; and whose familyn rejects the gayness
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; or picks on RMS
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; for having a mental deficiency of sorts
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; but never ever speaks of the sociopaths, whom he works for
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; this is not a coincidence
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; this is his MODUS OPERANDI
12:33 DaemonFC; Yes, it's because mjg59_ is an evil inhuman bully.
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; US commitsd war cimrs?
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: I WANT TO BE US citiziens
12:33 schestowitz[TR]; proceeds to attacking perople who EXPOSE the war crimes
12:34 DaemonFC; Like everyone else who is on that side of the fence, mjg59_ is a sociopath who tries to climb the ladder by tearing others down.
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12:34 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; exactly
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; that's his sole purpose
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; anjd attack sofwtare
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; by putting back doors in it
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; then calling it "secuirty"
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; to be cleberated in Arese Technically Pedophile
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; where 'drpizza' would ciite him
12:34 schestowitz[TR]; for Microsoft
12:34 DaemonFC; How do I deal with mjg59_'s "contribution"? I don't. I turn it off.
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; they both ework for Microsoft
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; peter does kids
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; mjg does... something
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; the lateter is legal
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; except if in some foss conferences and without consent
12:35 schestowitz[TR]; who knows...
12:35 DaemonFC; The only thing "Secure Boot" has ever done, visibly, for me, was update the dbx and then refuse to boot anything other than Ubuntu or Windows until I entered the firmware setup and turned it off.
12:35 DaemonFC; That was on that Yoga laptop. I kept having all sorts of UEFI problems out of it thanks mostly due to Lenovo and Ubuntu.
12:35 TR News; "The problems with Clearview AIs facial recognition system, particularly in the hands of police, are myriad and serious." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/no-the-solution-for-criminal-defendants-is-not-more-clearview-ai/ | Source: Techdirt
12:35 TR Bot; The Solution For Criminal Defendants Is Not More Clearview AI | Techdirt
12:36 DaemonFC; The only one I missed out on was the Ubuntu bug that set the firmware settings to read only.
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that's why he tries to cancel you
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; bringing up unrelated topic
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; to use them as a wedge
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; he is NOT trans
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; he's a bully and opportunist
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; he is a PROPRIETARY s/w "Developer"
12:36 schestowitz[TR]; whose code I cannot even see
12:36 DaemonFC; He's like Scott Evil though.
12:36 techuser; deviloper
12:36 DaemonFC; So evil that his hair starts falling out in clumps.
12:36 TR News; broadband https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/there-have-been-decades-of-broadband-policy-and-subsidies-and-were-only-just-now-accurately-measuring-their-impact/ | Source: Techdirt
12:36 TR Bot; Have Been Decades Of Broadband Policy And Subsidies And Were Only Just Now Accurately Measuring Their Impact | Techdirt
12:37 DaemonFC; :)
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; he's falling apart
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; mentally
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; but has money for therapy
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; anyway
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; I saw his likes
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; before he was around
12:37 techuser; it is evil that "trans" is being an excuse for anything
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; when I did linux adovacy in my teensss
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; they vanish fast
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; like mcgovern
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; bully de blanc
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; he has already mostly vanished
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; at age 40 or so
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; with his hair falling off
12:37 schestowitz[TR]; he's done for
12:38 DaemonFC; There's a lot of horrible people that go "I'm trans, therefore cannot be criticized for anything!".
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; they used him
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; remember the dozens of good linux writers who sold out?
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; where are they now|?
12:38 DaemonFC; That way if you criticize some code they wrote, you're transphobic.
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; gone. vanished for good.
12:38 DaemonFC; That got Linus in the penalty box.
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it's a wedge
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; he is NOT trans
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; he is just usinng that
12:38 techuser; so some people may consider becoming trans just because of this
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; spies do that too
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; they even tried this on assange
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; assange was very supportive of manning
12:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I don't know. Maybe he dances around the house to Goodbye Horses.
12:38 schestowitz[TR]; but the spy-funded BS campaign p[ainted wikileaks as trnasphobic
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's just some shallow edge
12:39 DaemonFC; Do we know what's going on in there? Do we want to?
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; boosters by lyuing brigeades in saudi sites
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ is teans as I am... or as much
12:39 schestowitz[TR]; we are equally trans
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; except I don't use that to make grudges
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; he does
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; *trans
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; like male "feminists"
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; some are good
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; but many are just stealing away the voice of actual women
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; which is incidentally something many women do not like
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; not about such men
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; or trans women
12:40 techuser; I want equality, not "reverse the discrimination for now"
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; because it takes away from those who know best
12:40 schestowitz[TR]; men don't have pms
12:41 techuser; it will just lead to reversed discrimination for a few decades
12:41 techuser; then reversed SJWs appear, and so on
12:41 TR News; "Legal battles have been fought for most of a decade now over access to the full CIA Torture Report." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/dc-court-shuts-down-common-law-access-end-around-says-congress-doesnt-need-to-release-full-cia-torture-report/ | Source: Techdirt
12:41 TR Bot; Court Shuts Down Common Law Access End-Around, Says Congress Doesnt Need To Release Full CIA Torture Report | Techdirt
12:41 techuser; unless we self-destruct earlier
12:41 TR News; "On Sunday, the European Commission decided not to close the rule of law procedure also known as the conditionality procedure against Hungary" https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/21/new-anti-corruption-measures-even-reach-the-prime-ministers-office | Source: Telex (Hungary)
12:41 TR Bot; Telex: New anti-corruption measures reach as far as the Prime Minister's Office
12:41 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: that seeds infighting
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; among the lower class
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; like the racial fights
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; except over bs
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; and made-up nonsense
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; while the rich suck up allm the cpital
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; and watch from above the sectarian battles
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; over total fiction
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; which their media and social contorl media keeps boosting
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; it's not asa you put it
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; it's not "women"
12:42 schestowitz[TR]; or "LGBT"
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; it's a whole raft of things
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; inc. immigration and celebrities
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; the polarisation is the problem
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; and it's stirred up[m by the platforms that the rich control
12:43 schestowitz[TR]; russia does the same inwards
12:45 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mk7782dm884
12:45 TR Bot; buffalo bill dance SFW - Invidious
12:45 TR News; Massive Kickback Scheme https://thedissenter.org/major-settlement-fca-whistleblower-biogen/ | Source: The Dissenter
12:45 DaemonFC; Inside Matt GULAG's house.
12:45 TR Bot; Biogen Whistleblower Lawsuit Ends In Huge Settlement
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; many things that used to be a passive or peacrul coexistence
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; suddeny become batttles
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; if not just online
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; then first online
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; then offline
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; or some isolated icndnts are hyped up, selectively, online
12:47 DaemonFC; You couldn't do The Silence of the Lambs today.
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; to accentuate grievances
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; when I gre up trans people were out there
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; nobody said anything
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; we lived ok
12:47 DaemonFC; The Cancel Mob wouldn't even let the script be read.
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; we talked, they worked etc.
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; now with social controlm media people go to war
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; over something that's not new
12:47 DaemonFC; If you tried to write the book, it wouldn't get published.
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; same for racial
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; like black on black (and white) violence
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; peieter H from FFII said this is why he left twitter
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; around 2016
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; he felt like twitter was starting to be dominateing by those divisive brigades
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; it got a lot wors ein eyars that followd
12:48 DaemonFC; Buffalo Bill (trans), except the movie points out he's not trans. He's like Keith (except that Keith didn't make a woman suit).
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; aand is still further exaecentrated
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; to the point of execerbating the conflict with russia
12:48 DaemonFC; The psychiatrists all say Keith isn't trans, so he went to Canada to get the operations.
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; all jus to occupy minds and for "engagement"
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; polarisation is how they make more business and "value" (for political gain)
12:49 MinceR; (audio) https://apina.biz/190929.mp4?mode=sfw
12:49 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/190929.mp4
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; *exacerbating
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; sorry, typing while standng
12:50 DaemonFC; You have to be really careful around SJWs and Christians. It's the same fundamental problem. "Holier than thou!". They know how corrupt they are so they always are on high alert to find fault with others as a way of deflecting.
12:50 TR News; "Solutions to systemic ills will only come from awkward conversations." https://shadowproof.com/2022/09/21/protest-song-of-the-week-the-money-by-rain-perry/ | Source: Shadowproof
12:50 TR Bot; Protest Song Of The Week: 'The Money' By Rain Perry
12:50 XRevan86; MinceR: Why was he talking about shawarma? Was he selling?
12:50 DaemonFC; So mjg59_ is like the people at MARISOL's church in that way.
12:50 MinceR; \_()_/
12:51 DaemonFC; People may be overthrowing religion, but it's being replaced by things that are just as bad because people are still people.
12:51 MinceR; if people are overthrowing religion, how are the religious fundamentalist parties not being thrown out of power?
12:52 DaemonFC; The country is getting worse to live in as "irreligious" people are at their highest percentage on record.
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; religion is a separation tactic
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; not originally
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; but it can stir up hate
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; the problem is
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; people used to speak to people
12:52 DaemonFC; The USSR had state atheism like Communist countries do. They built a giant highway with GULAG labor that has 250,000 Russians buried under it in a mass grave that goes on for over 1,400 miles.
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; or watch tv
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; which is largely moderated
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; hard to get a sdhos r get on the airrwaves
12:52 MinceR; the way religion works guaranteed that it will stir up hate, from the start
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; not we have platforms of cnesorship controlled by thr rich
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; like the saudi "ropyal" family
12:53 MinceR; "communist countries" have stalinism and cult of personality, not "state atheism"
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; and they benefit from us not talking about stuff like price of oil
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; which is artiificially elevated
12:53 MinceR; have you seen the portraits and statues they put _everywhere_?
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; they removed greta when covifc-d19 started
12:53 DaemonFC; That ought to give you some insight. If state atheism led to a 1,400 mile long mass grave full of "political enemies" of Stalin, then why would any sort of atheist country be any better than that, necessarily?
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; almost like they canceled it. move over, thunberg, now we have a new scare to sell and it is more profitable
12:54 MinceR; DaemonFC: it's not "state atheism"
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; <MinceR> the way religion works guaranteed that it will stir up hate, from the start
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; not sun0-god
12:54 MinceR; fundies would love to stick this on atheism, but it doesn't belong
12:54 DaemonFC; The Communists have a much larger body count than Hitler. Stalin alone had twice as many.
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; peopleused to pray for sun, rain
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; that's how it started
12:54 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: sun-god-worshippers were wiped out centuries ag
12:54 MinceR; o
12:54 DaemonFC; Mao had 5 times the Holocaust.
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; later came slavery and oppression as part of it
12:54 DaemonFC; And that's just Russia and China.
12:54 MinceR; sun-god implies polytheism
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
12:54 MinceR; and polytheism is defenseless against monotheism
12:55 TR News; Warner Brother https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/21/warner-brothers-discovery-merger-continues-to-be-a-shitshow-for-the-ages/ | Source: Techdirt
12:55 XRevan86; Stalin turned up a lot of oppression, but not on religion, that he tuned down.
12:55 TR Bot; Brothers Discovery Merger Continues To Be A Shitshow For The Ages | Techdirt
12:55 MinceR; "my god is stronger than your god, and your god doesn't even exist, nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah!" beats "my god is pretty neat, but others exist too"
12:55 DaemonFC; I didn't get the political undertones of Star Trek as a kid. Klingons as Russians, and all that.
12:55 MinceR; XRevan86: so why were there portraits of stalin and lenin and marx everywhere?
12:56 MinceR; why were there huge statues of stalin everywhere?
12:56 DaemonFC; The movie where they sent Kirk and McCoy to the mining colony on the asteroid to mine dilithium with a pickaxe until they died.
12:56 XRevan86; MinceR: Totalitarian propaganda.
12:56 TR News; "Poverty Is a Political Choice" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/21/data-reveals-poverty-political-choice | Source: Common Dreams
12:56 TR Bot; Opinion | Data Reveals Poverty Is a Political Choice | Karen Dolan
12:56 DaemonFC; Basically "sent to the GULAG".
12:56 MinceR; XRevan86: what's the difference?
12:56 TR News; "Consider the harmful, grasping tentacles by corporations around the bodies and minds of youngsters through relentless direct marketing that bypasses parental authority." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/21/who-will-liberate-our-tweens-these-corporate-tentacles | Source: Common Dreams
12:56 TR Bot; Opinion | Who Will Liberate Our Tweens From These Corporate Tentacles? | Ralph Nader
12:57 TR News; Old Barcode Scanner https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/old-barcode-scanner-motherboards-live-again/ | Source: Hackaday
12:57 TR Bot; Barcode Scanner Motherboards Live Again | Hackaday
12:57 MinceR; what's the difference between having to carry a bible with you and having to have a crucifix in your home and having to carry a little red book with you and having to have a portrait of stalin in your home?
12:57 XRevan86; MinceR: Does that negate Stalin lessening the crackdown on religion?
12:57 MinceR; no
12:57 MinceR; religions "crack down" on each other all the time
12:57 MinceR; and blind faith makes brains nonfunctional all the time
12:57 DaemonFC; Marsh supermarket (bankrupt now) was a large Indiana grocery chain that was the first to use barcodes for groceries.
12:58 DaemonFC; People were freaked out by it and figured it would be the "mark of the beast".
12:58 DaemonFC; Every new technology will be, you know.
12:58 TR News; "If you are a political fanatic, you've surely heard the old saying that when fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/21/fascist-fingers-air-terrifying-american-nightmare-unfolds-trump-rally | Source: Common Dreams
12:58 TR Bot; Opinion | Fascist Fingers in the Air: Terrifying American Nightmare Unfolds at Trump Rally | Will Bunch
12:58 MinceR; lol
12:58 schestowitz[TR]; beasty boys
12:59 schestowitz[TR]; mandy and DaemonFC
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 131.61
12:59 XRevan86; MinceR: Stalin didn't seek to destroy the church, instead he took control of it.
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; that's like musk trying to buy twitter
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; or bill gates buying a lot of the media
13:00 XRevan86; A cooperating church is a good asset. Putin certainty understands that.
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; they co-opt it
13:00 MinceR; :>
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; or debian/spi trying to take over debian./coimmunity
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; it's about control
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; and they took over the exposer's domain
13:01 MinceR; is there even a debian community anymore?
13:01 matteobin; I use Debian!
13:01 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
13:01 matteobin; Am I part of the Debian community?
13:01 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights
13:01 MinceR; \_()_/
13:02 matteobin; Don't you like Debian?
13:02 MinceR; i left deadian behind when they tried to force systemd onto my systems in the guise of an "update"
13:02 matteobin; Is it because of systemd?
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; I use debian
13:02 MinceR; yes
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; we use it on 4 machines
13:02 DaemonFC; debian.community
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; but debian's leadership has gotten worse
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; and they cover up
13:02 MinceR; i already considered leaving debian when they started putting mono in the default install
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; by abusing colunteers
13:02 MinceR; but couldn't find a good alternative
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; mono came through gnomke, iirc
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; and debian <3 ICBM GNOME
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; defaulyt DE afaik
13:03 MinceR; well, there was crunchbang, then it ended because the authors decided that systemd was "lightweight"
13:03 matteobin; You should be able to remove systemd from Debian.
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; they don't have "official" favourite
13:03 MinceR; but crunchbang was based on debian
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; but gnome is always at the top
13:03 MinceR; matteobin: yeah, i can, and it takes with itself all the packages that depend on it
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; ubuntu is also based on debian
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; almost everything is based on it, maybe 70% of actively developed distros
13:03 MinceR; and if i don't have access to the packages of debian, what's the point of using debian?
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; pepperminos has a deriv based on deuan now
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; you can give that a try
13:04 MinceR; i used devuan for a while
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; I tried to install it on my main laptop
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; it lacked some blob for realtek
13:04 MinceR; but devuan can't afford to do what it set out to do
13:04 MinceR; they couldn't even remove the dependency on libsystemd
13:04 matteobin; Is Devuan that bad?
13:05 MinceR; it doesn't have enough people to do the job
13:05 matteobin; What are the things you need that depend on systemd?
13:05 MinceR; all sorts of gui applications
13:06 MinceR; openssh-server also depends on libsystemd
13:06 MinceR; and i don't trust libsystemd
13:06 DaemonFC; Debian is essentially "Take Fedora, misconfigure it, and call it stable.".
13:06 MinceR; i think you can hack around that with libelogind now
13:06 MinceR; but i don't really care
13:06 MinceR; the stratum most things come from on my bedrock systems is void, not devuan
13:06 TR News; Diode Laser https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/cutting-metals-with-a-diode-laser/ | Source: Hackaday
13:06 TR Bot; Metals With A Diode Laser? | Hackaday
13:06 DaemonFC; MinceR, It's bad enough that Fedora is where ICBM dumps things, but then Debian and Ubuntu grab them without the slightest understanding of how they work and manage to fuck things up even worse than they are upstream.
13:06 MinceR; i was wary of it because it's rolling release, but it turned out to be pretty stable
13:07 MinceR; 22 140607 < DaemonFC> Debian is essentially "Take Fedora, misconfigure it, and call it stable.".
13:07 matteobin; OpenBSD does not use systemd. How can openssh-server depen on systemd?
13:07 TR News; "Disney Heiress Tackles Inequality" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/21/the_american_dream_other_fairy_tales | Source: Democracy Now
13:07 TR Bot; The American Dream & Other Fairy Tales: Disney Heiress Tackles Inequality, Family Legacy in New Film | Democracy Now!
13:07 MinceR; no, it's "waste a LOT of work on reimplementing fedora"
13:07 MinceR; matteobin: some logging bullshit optionally supports it and the systemd cultists at deadian use this to add a binary dependency
13:07 MinceR; they build their binaries with it enabled
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Debian is essentially "Take Fedora, misconfigure it, and call it stable.".
13:07 MinceR; deadian wields systemd dependency as a weapon
13:07 DaemonFC; Fedora doesn't ship a broken and misconfigured setup whereby Pulseaudio and Pipewire are on the same system and set up incorrectly as well.
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; that's a gross oversimpklifcation
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; Debian has a lot more than what Fedora/ICBM pushes
13:08 MinceR; just respinning and relabeling fedora as debian would be a lot less work
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; KDE/plasma for instance
13:08 MinceR; and it would achieve what debian people want
13:08 MinceR; and what they believe in
13:08 matteobin; I like Debian. I don't get your negativity.
13:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I was pleased to see that Pipewire recently added Opus as a Bluetooth codec.
13:08 MinceR; systemd people believe in things like "Linux is not about choice"
13:08 DaemonFC; That's not supported by "industry".
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: I still use debian on 2 machines
13:08 MinceR; so why have more than one distro?
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; rianne does too, on 2 machines
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; it is still very reliable
13:09 DaemonFC; But I was calling for Free Software to do this for a while now.
13:09 MinceR; systemd people believe in things like "letting the user/admin configure something is bad"
13:09 schestowitz[TR]; i don't like debian politics
13:09 DaemonFC; The Bluetooth SIG doesn't mandate any audio codecs except SBC.
13:09 schestowitz[TR]; and it will worsen the qualifty of currrent and future releases
13:09 schestowitz[TR]; they drove away some good high-calbre devs
13:09 DaemonFC; So theoretically, you can put any audio codec in there you want and advertise it's supported.
13:09 DaemonFC; Including things that are not standardized by anyone.
13:10 DaemonFC; You could include Musepack or WavePack as Bluetooth codecs if you really wanted to.
13:10 DaemonFC; If there's a receiver and a server side that can both agree to use it, it will work.
13:10 TR News; Hunger https://truthout.org/video/1-person-dies-of-hunger-every-4-seconds/ | Source: TruthOut
13:10 TR Bot; 1 Person Dies of Hunger Every 4 Seconds
13:10 matteobin; I get the issue, but I don't think that Debian is doomed.
13:11 MinceR; that must suck for that 1 person
13:11 DaemonFC; Musepack isn't badly designed. It's unfortunate that Vorbis caught on instead in the open source space.
13:11 MinceR; debian is not doomed
13:11 MinceR; debian is dead
13:12 DaemonFC; Musepack hasn't been actively developed since SV8, but Fedora still has numerous decoders available, so if you have them, they'll work.
13:12 MinceR; not only did debian give up on every single thing that made it what it is (being GNU/Linux, being universal, being stable, being free), but they capitulated to a corporation (ibm) that doesn't want to have them around.
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; some projects moved fromc entos tro debian
13:12 techuser; matteobin: on OpenBSD, did I mention HLIRCnet already?
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; but china's kylin is still on ubuntu afaik
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; deepin moves away from debian
13:12 techuser; (its admin seems to do some things with OpenBSD)
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; they don't trust debian I suppose
13:12 matteobin; What does dead even mean? You are exaggerating!
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; debian becomes more infested with what seems like gov. spies
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; people like GULAG
13:12 DaemonFC; <MinceR> not only did debian give up on every single thing that made it what it is (being GNU/Linux, being universal, being stable, being free), but they capitulated to a corporation (ibm) that doesn't want to have them around.
13:13 MinceR; debian used to be GNU/Linux; now it's systemd/Linux
13:13 schestowitz[TR]; who promote imperial back doors
13:13 schestowitz[TR]; and attack the community
13:13 MinceR; debian used to be universal; now it's designed to support poettering's multiseat laptop and nothing else
13:13 schestowitz[TR]; LF is a part of thsi agenda
13:13 DaemonFC; Debian used to have over a dozen CPU architectures and even a non-Linux kernel option (FreeBSD).
13:13 MinceR; debian used to be stable; now it ships systemd by default, which still is a mess
13:13 DaemonFC; Yes, systemd is the reason they killed off Debian/kFreeBSD.
13:13 MinceR; debian used to be free; now it depends on systemd by default, which is OSPS (Open Source Proprietary Software)
13:13 schestowitz[TR]; on one laptop of mine it boots fast
13:13 MinceR; and what DaemonFC said
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; on rian''e sit's super-slow
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; some hardware cannot work with systemd
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; far too slow
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; also shutdown
13:14 DaemonFC; At one point there was GNU/Darwin, GNU/kFreeBSD, and GNU/OpenSolaris.
13:15 MinceR; also, systemd people believe that choice is bad, and debian replicates the effort of what ibm does in fedora/rhel/centos, making it a superfluous choice, which is bad.
13:15 TR News; "When youre a machinist, your stock in trade is precision, with measurements in the thousandths of your preferred unit being common." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/metric-and-inch-threads-fight-it-out-for-ultra-precise-positioning/ | Source: Hackaday / Metric And Inch Threads Fight It Out For Ultra-Precise Positioning
13:15 TR Bot; And Inch Threads Fight It Out For Ultra-Precise Positioning | Hackaday
13:15 MinceR; (even ibm is being a hypocrite in this. why have 3 distros where only 1 would be desirable?)
13:15 DaemonFC; I mean, you still could do those things, but you'd need to make sure you're not using systemd, which increases the workload if you want the Linux version to use systemd.
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: RHEL?
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: ^
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; why desirable?
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's expensive
13:16 *psydruid mentions Chimera Linux in passing
13:16 DaemonFC; MinceR, Red Hat used to have one distribution.
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; it's just something you get with a contract
13:16 MinceR; there was also a debian HURD distro, and HURD wanted to implement support for this single point of failure, but i guess they never got around to it
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; but there are free derivs now
13:16 MinceR; DaemonFC: yeah, and it used to be not shit, afaict
13:16 DaemonFC; The binaries were the same whether you paid Red Hat or not. What made it "enterprise" was whether you bought paid support.
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; the new ones anyway
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; didn't test either of them, rocky and alma
13:16 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: it's desirable to systemd people, because choice is bad and "Linux is not about choice".
13:17 matteobin; What is RHEL?
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: like you want to give them money
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; so they can attack us some more
13:17 MinceR; Red Hat Enterprise Linux
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; so many people quit red hat
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; it's the oinly place in icbm where peopple leave in droves
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; in the other parts of icbm people are FIORED in droves
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; icbm is "sjhitty old company"
13:17 DaemonFC; Fedora has become more autonomous just simply because IBM doesn't care about it much anymore.
13:17 schestowitz[TR]; they promote the sociopaths
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; the liars
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; the abusers
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; in a saner company,
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; like old red hat,
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; they would sack ther management
13:18 DaemonFC; They switched to a file system default (BtrFS) that RHEL probably will never support.
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; for that massive blunder of destroying centos
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; and attacking(alientating) the community
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; after building a relationship with it for 25 years almost
13:18 MinceR; 22 141817 < DaemonFC> They switched to a file system default (BtrFS) that RHEL probably will never support.
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; even jim allowhurst left icbm
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; WITHOUT A AWORD
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; sold his house
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; vanished
13:18 MinceR; maybe they already know that ibm will buy oracle
13:18 schestowitz[TR]; like mjg
13:19 schestowitz[TR]; who is not justa reisdent troll in an IRC network
13:19 TR News; "In our occasional series charting audio and Hi-Fi technology we have passed at a technical level the main components of a home audio set-up." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/21/know-audio-stereo/ | Source: Hackaday
13:19 TR Bot; Audio: Stereo | Hackaday
13:19 psydruid; Is IBM in a position to buy Oracle?
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:20 MinceR; \_()_/
13:20 DaemonFC; They could do a merger.
13:20 MinceR; the official values of these corporations are based on the beliefs of ignorant masses
13:20 DaemonFC; It would be funny though.
13:20 MinceR; it's unpredictable
13:20 DaemonFC; Red Hat was pissed about "Oracle Enterprise Linux".
13:20 MinceR; most of them are massive bubbles
13:20 TR News; "Full Recession-Creating Mode" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/21/fed-full-recession-creating-mode-comes-under-fire-another-interest-rate-hike | Source: Common Dreams
13:20 TR Bot; Fed in 'Full Recession-Creating Mode' Comes Under Fire for Another Interest Rate Hike
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; <psydruid> Is IBM in a position to buy Oracle?
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; they used to make openoffice.org
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; via a fork of sorts
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; for symphony
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; but that was before oracle bought and scuttled it
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; icbm has its own DBs
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; doubt it wants oracle's
13:21 MinceR; they could rebrand LibreOffice instead, if they wanted
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; but both are malicious gopv. contracts that do a lot of distry work, einc. mass spying
13:21 MinceR; not sure what's the point though
13:22 DaemonFC; I used IBM Lotus Symphony for a while.
13:23 DaemonFC; It wasn't a bad program. It was basically just a nicer GUI for OOo.
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; it did look nicer
13:23 schestowitz[TR]; they sold out all that business to india iirc
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; for only about 2 billion
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM has a future only as a bailout company
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; International Bailout Mobster
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; "defence" contracts
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; as "stimulus"
13:24 schestowitz[TR]; to keep afloat the tentcacle
13:24 MinceR; they're entangled with the usian state, it will just keep them alive
13:24 MinceR; in exchange for things like systemd
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; but
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; if the USA falls too, then it will need to let some companies and bank fail
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; no matter the consequences
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; systemd is also partly controlled by Microsoft
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; not just the github part
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; but also LP
13:25 schestowitz[TR]; turns out within daays of LP jumping over the redmond he works on WSL
13:26 schestowitz[TR]; they are apromoting WIndows now
13:26 schestowitz[TR]; Windows LP
13:27 TR News; Telegram Has a Serious Doxing Problem https://www.wired.co.uk/article/telegrams-doxing-problem
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13:27 matteobin; This chat makes me sad. You might be right, but I would like to think there's hope for Debian and Free Software.
13:27 matteobin; You sound so sure and so negative.
13:27 MinceR; the state of the world is pretty damn sad
13:27 matteobin; It's depressing.
13:28 MinceR; i'm looking for a way out
13:28 matteobin; Is it?
13:28 matteobin; I mean it definetely is...
13:28 matteobin; But it's not that worst thant it was three hundred years ago.
13:29 matteobin; History has never been nice.
13:29 matteobin; Maybe you are a bit too cynical.
13:29 MinceR; i prefer a few million years ago, when there were no humans
13:29 matteobin; I'd love to become a DD.
13:30 matteobin; You would have been killed by a dinosaur.
13:30 MinceR; the really big dinosaurs died out 66 million years ago
13:30 MinceR; and the rest are still around
13:31 MinceR; well, some of them
13:31 matteobin; I share some of your POVs, so maybe new developers like me can help Debian and the Free Software movement?
13:31 MinceR; you call them "birds"
13:31 MinceR; i don't see the point in helping debian, or how they could be helped
13:31 TR News; some time around the end of this year the combined age of Techrights and Tux Machines will be 35 years
13:31 MinceR; debian is controlled by people who do ibm's bidding
13:31 MinceR; like the technical committee
13:31 MinceR; and debian's promise of stability is already worthless
13:31 matteobin; Anyway we do live now. We should try to make the world a better place.
13:31 MinceR; yes, we should
13:31 matteobin; Just because of systemd?
13:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Things are just too fucking expensive.
13:32 MinceR; not really "because of systemd"
13:32 matteobin; Is there any sense in complaining?
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: context?
13:32 DaemonFC; I found a recipe for dinner that only requires a head of cabbage, so I'll just go with that. That's the only thing I don't already have.
13:32 MinceR; rh/ibm effectively took over debian so they could force systemd onto users of debian and debian derivatives
13:32 MinceR; and it succeeded
13:32 DaemonFC; Food is too damned expensive.
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; bargain-hunt
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; if feasible where you are
13:32 MinceR; there's hardly any usable GNU/Linux distros around
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; and safe
13:32 DaemonFC; I was shocked by the cost of breakfast this morning.
13:32 schestowitz[TR]; at times they discount
13:33 MinceR; also, these >> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members
13:33 TR Bot; Members of the Linux Foundation
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; we probably save about 200 pounds a month with discounted foods
13:33 MinceR; took over Linux
13:33 immibis; DaemonFC: it's called capitalism, you might want to abolish it
13:33 DaemonFC; I suppose Thornton's at least has decent breakfast sandwiches. That surprised me. The gas station has overtaken McDonalds for breakfast quality.
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: LFa
13:33 immibis; you know all the bad stuff that happened in USSR communism, well it's also happening in USA capitalism
13:33 MinceR; notice microsoft and ibm ("red hat") are there
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; and maybe kernel
13:33 DaemonFC; McDonalds used to manage their QC better.
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; "linux" usually means more than that
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; OIN limits its scope too
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; the corporate front groups are old playbook
13:33 schestowitz[TR]; to extinguish communities
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; so we fight back
13:34 matteobin; I would like to help the Free Software movement. I started using Debian because it was the oldest GNU/Linux distro, I liked the concept of a stable system.
13:34 MinceR; also vmware, a known GPL violator
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: no, learn to cook
13:34 MinceR; slackware is older, and it's actually GNU/Linux still
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; i spoke with matteobin about this earlier
13:34 MinceR; but i didn't have that much good experience with it either
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; people need to learn how to cook
13:34 DaemonFC; The United States does not have an Interstate Highway built with labor of political enemies of Eisenhower, with 250,000 corpses buried under it as they went.
13:34 schestowitz[TR]; and then save a TON of money adn enjoy FRESHER foods
13:34 DaemonFC; :)
13:34 MinceR; i had to install -current because latest stable didn't support my hardware
13:35 MinceR; and it broke when i tried to upgrade it
13:35 *Meh (~andrew@tjdieew2i55g2.irc) has joined #techrights
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; hi meh
13:35 matteobin; I want to become a Debian Developer because a lot of distro are based on Debian, so I can help package software for most of them.
13:35 *Meh is now known as Andrew
13:35 MinceR; you can probably do it
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; hi andrew
13:35 Andrew; Eh, I'm just going to listen in for now
13:35 matteobin; I think there's some value in this idea.
13:35 MinceR; but be prepared for being bossed around by people on ibm's payroll and your work being compromised by them
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: just don't have any opinions
13:35 schestowitz[TR]; or the thugs will flag you
13:36 MinceR; that too
13:36 DaemonFC; They'd never hand child molesters crude tools and tell them to work on the highways until they died.
13:36 schestowitz[TR]; they want obedience mindlesa nd mouthless workers
13:36 DaemonFC; First of all, the labor unions would be pissed.
13:36 matteobin; I will always have opinions!
13:36 techuser; hi Andrew
13:36 DaemonFC; Secondly, the Democrats don't even want the child molesters in prison, and if they do go, they want to give them exercise equipment and satellite television.
13:36 MinceR; that's going to be a liability in that shiny corporate SJW world
13:36 matteobin; Anyway my question is
13:36 schestowitz[TR]; someone somewhere might be offended
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; and if you maintain a trulty secure package, they might try to oust you just for the fun of it
13:37 techuser; are you the same Andrew I did talk to a few seconds ago?
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; see how they shoehorned systems
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; *systemd
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; in spite of strong opposition from many devs and even former DPLs
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; at the end systemd is controlled by Microsoft
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; it took LP and github
13:37 schestowitz[TR]; and now has a lot of control over us through that
13:37 matteobin; What are you doing? You know more than I do. What is you plan? You must have a plan, right? Do you really think there is no more hope?
13:38 DaemonFC; We should have GULAG labor camps. Not filled with political prisoners, but child molesters, rapists, murderers, etc.
13:38 MinceR; i don't have much of a plan
13:38 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: there is always hope
13:38 schestowitz[TR]; they play catch-up
13:38 DaemonFC; Sentenced to hard labor until natural death.
13:38 MinceR; i'm thinking of maybe forking Linux, stripping out the CoC, stripping out the hype-V crap
13:38 MinceR; but it's a ton of work
13:38 MinceR; and i'd have to build a distro on it, since nobody else would ship binaries of it
13:38 MinceR; and i have ideas for that
13:38 DaemonFC; How is compiling out the HyperV driver difficult?
13:38 MinceR; but i don't have a lot of ideas for what features i'd add to the kernel
13:39 DaemonFC; That's part of the make config process.
13:39 MinceR; DaemonFC: i don't want to compile it out. i want their atrocious code out of the tree.
13:39 matteobin; Is there something you do every day that you think can help the Free Software movement?
13:39 MinceR; i don't want to maintain it, i don't want to keep it around.
13:39 MinceR; matteobin: not currently
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: maybe another ditro
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; one that respects its devs
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; debian at the moment seems captured
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; google, microsoft money
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; and they even outsourced their CI to GAFAMN
13:39 matteobin; Do you like just to complain? I don't want to sound harsh, but this chat is very sad.
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR is like this
13:40 techuser; schestowitz[TR]: tell Andrew about FSF evils
13:40 MinceR; the systems we use are too big for a single person to build from scratch
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; figosdev is too
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; he goes by many names
13:40 MinceR; and most of them are utter crap
13:40 MinceR; all the web browsers that "modern" sites work on are utter crap
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; fsf is besieged
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; it's not evil
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; it actually iousted many of the coup plotters
13:40 DaemonFC; I have been considering switching to MATE.
13:40 MinceR; none of the kernels are particularly good
13:40 schestowitz[TR]; inc. mattL
13:40 DaemonFC; I'm not sure if they have a CoC.
13:41 MinceR; i have trouble picking libcs and userlands
13:41 DaemonFC; mjg59_, OMG CoC!!!!!
13:41 DaemonFC; Wouldn't want to "miss out".
13:41 MinceR; all the desktop environments are crap
13:41 schestowitz[TR]; must be female then
13:41 DaemonFC; They should quit trying to CoC Block me. It never works.
13:41 MinceR; all the hardware is either crap, or underpowered
13:41 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: when did you last try kde?
13:41 MinceR; 4.3
13:41 schestowitz[TR]; it was worse back then
13:42 MinceR; plasma kept forgetting its settings
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; still buggy
13:42 MinceR; no, it wasn't
13:42 DaemonFC; At least MATE forked something that was still usable.
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; kde3>4
13:42 MinceR; then they announced 5.x with systemd dependency
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; but 5>4
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; and I tried 3 again 2 years ago
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; it sucks
13:42 MinceR; and then i knew i had no interest in the future of KDE
13:42 DaemonFC; GNOME tried to spread FUD about MATE.
13:42 MinceR; and also that KDE had no future
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; it looked OK at the time
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; but it's shit by today's stanhdards
13:42 DaemonFC; They made it seem like MATE would never even have a release.
13:42 MinceR; it is now controlled by a corporation that has no use for it
13:42 MinceR; and they don't like having competition around
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; if needed, they can fork qt again
13:42 MinceR; so don't expect KDE to stick around for long
13:42 DaemonFC; Yet here they are 11 years and like over a dozen releases later.
13:43 MinceR; and then, yes, Qt became open core
13:43 MinceR; and it was crap even before then
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; kde is widely used
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; it'll be around for decades more
13:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You remember GNOME spreading anti-MATE FUD, right?
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; they had a worse legal situatuin in the 90s
13:43 MinceR; it already had half a window manager built into it for waylandows and it always sucked at clipboard/selection handling
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: gnome is gafam
13:43 MinceR; (GTK+ also has half a window manager built into it for the same reason)
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation
13:43 TR Bot; GNOME Foundation - Techrights
13:43 MinceR; oh yeah, i forgot
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; kde is european
13:44 MinceR; X's maintainers don't understand X
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; gnome is former latin/spanish, now GAFAM (Pentagon)
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; kde is managed by germans and dutch
13:44 MinceR; and they came up with an alleged replacement, waylandows, which is a total trash fire
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; and kde did not attack FSF's founder
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; not based on any lies anyway
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; just wanted some more transparency
13:45 matteobin; LXDE is very good too. MATE is nice, but my favourite is dwm.
13:45 techuser; <@LibUser> anyway, at least they once told that FSF is sponsored by big entities and it restricts FSF in commenting on these entities' evils
13:45 techuser; <@Andrew> what are their sources?
13:45 techuser; do I remember things correctly? schestowitz[TR] do you know?
13:45 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: many options, the applications matter more
13:45 schestowitz[TR]; i used openbox for eyars
13:45 schestowitz[TR]; just bland, empty desktop
13:45 schestowitz[TR]; no panels or icons at all
13:45 MinceR; LXDE's panel doesn't understand multihead setups, afaict
13:45 DaemonFC; The only GNOME-ish thing about MATE is that it uses GTK.
13:45 schestowitz[TR]; that laptop just didn't have much ram
13:45 MinceR; MATE forked gnome when gnome was already crap
13:45 DaemonFC; That might cause their project to suffer at some point.
13:45 MinceR; and gnome is still crap
13:46 DaemonFC; I've heard developers complain that the toolkit itself makes it more difficult to write "desktop" applications properly.
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; \<techuser> do I remember things correctly? schestowitz[TR] do you know?
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; the fsf 'solved' this issue
13:46 matteobin; I did not want to offend anyone before. I like your IRC server. Apologies if I was rude.
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; it barely says anything about anything
13:46 MinceR; also, GTK+, the GIMP toolkit, abandoned GIMP itself
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: some people here are more negative then me
13:47 schestowitz[TR]; it's their right
13:47 schestowitz[TR]; *then
13:47 schestowitz[TR]; >than
13:47 XRevan86; DaemonFC: MATE is in bad shape right now, it needs people.
13:47 DaemonFC; Their 1.26 release notes are fairly long.
13:47 DaemonFC; They are obviously getting a lot done.
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13:48 DaemonFC; Sometimes "more people" isn't better. It's getting the "right people".
13:48 matteobin; Of course it's in their right! I wanted to say I didn't want to hurt your feelings. Friends like before. :)
13:48 XRevan86; DaemonFC: If ye have them, send them the MATE way.
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: you are not the first to say this
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; a lady called mogxz said the same
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; and offered art to us
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; she was saddned by figosdev being rather defeatist
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; I keep saying gnu/linux is now used more than ever before
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; and still growing
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; hence,
13:50 schestowitz[TR]; it's under attack
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; should we reatreat, then?
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; no, we should fight on
13:51 MinceR; no, systemd/Linux and Android/Linux are used a lot
13:51 MinceR; GNU/Linux, not so much
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; it's expectd that those whom you moccupy will get aggressive
13:51 matteobin; That's my spirit!
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; like microsoft trying to dswallow the sea
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; github for instance
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: no
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; android has no systemd
13:51 MinceR; indeed
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; and it's like 80% of the "Linux" market
13:51 schestowitz[TR]; (sadly)
13:51 MinceR; that's why i listed it separately
13:52 MinceR; but Android is not GNU/Linux
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; the systemd parts also not in embedded
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; apline is used a lot in embedded
13:52 MinceR; and systemd is not a free unix
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; like cars with linux inside circuitry
13:52 MinceR; i shudder to think how many cars run systemd
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; systemd will fall off
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; like a useless CoC
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; a CoC kills off communities
13:52 matteobin; Do you like VoIP, Mumble?
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; that's partly its purpose
13:52 MinceR; the other pointless overcomplications didn't fall off cars either
13:52 schestowitz[TR]; it's greasing it up for corporate takeover
13:52 MinceR; mumble is good
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; or perishing status
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; mumble is very good
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; we use it
13:53 matteobin; Do you have a Mumble server? I do.
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; it's e2ee and self-hosted
13:53 MinceR; i used it while playing xonotic
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: yes, but not public
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; <MinceR> i shudder to think how many cars run systemd
13:53 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM failed to take oevr this market
13:54 schestowitz[TR]; Reddd Hat keeps trying
13:54 schestowitz[TR]; using the LF front group
13:54 schestowitz[TR]; making more phoyn 'foundations'
13:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], CDPH paid me for taking a survey about Monkeypox.
13:54 matteobin; I use it with my friends too. Even if some of them prefer TeamSpeak 3. :(
13:54 DaemonFC; It was overall trying to gauge how afraid I was of it and it I planned to get the vaccine.
13:54 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: funded by the vaccine patent holders?
13:54 DaemonFC; I said not at all afraid and no plans to get the vaccine.
13:54 schestowitz[TR]; so they an cook up a fake "study"?
13:54 schestowitz[TR]; marketing pitch?
13:54 CrystalMath; vaccine stuff in #techrights instead of #techpol?
13:55 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: funded by the vaccine patent holders?
13:55 schestowitz[TR]; patents issue
13:55 XRevan86; CrystalMath: DaemonFC doesn't take orders from anyone.
13:55 CrystalMath; ah, yes
13:55 DaemonFC; Not sure who funded it. They handed me $20 for telling them I think the Monkeypox scare is boloney and the vaccine is not appropriate for people who are not screwing around with anonymous sex partners.
13:55 schestowitz[TR]; lobbyists
13:55 XRevan86; DaemonFC: We have a functioning #techpol channel now.
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; funded by the patent stakeholders
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; then officials issue a survey
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; bvecause "Emergency"
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; seems you got ontn their"gay men" registry
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; be wary of those
13:56 schestowitz[TR]; your next regime might be more bigoted than Trump's
13:57 schestowitz[TR]; don't wait for m"sodomleaks"
13:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, they kept paying me to take HIV tests for like 5 years. It turned out to be like $500 or so total.
13:57 DaemonFC; They call it "LITE" surveys.
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; seems bad
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; it can cost you a LOT
13:58 DaemonFC; Why do I care if they know I don't have HIV? I don't have HIV. Why would it be embarrassing to say "I don't have HIV?".
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; all thatdats you gave them
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; put int he wrong hands
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; you talked about hos suicide helplines sell data
13:58 schestowitz[TR]; and that's even more sentitive than "gay men" registry
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; you should be like
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; "WHY THE FUCK do you contact me???"
13:59 DaemonFC; Yes, the suicide lines selling data and sending the cops out to murder people is a lot worse because that's all happening right now.
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; if they value lives
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; they will do a eife beaters' survey
13:59 DaemonFC; Who is interested in a list of people who might want to kill themselves? Insurance companies, drug companies, employers?
13:59 schestowitz[TR]; to catch the likes of hans reiser
14:00 schestowitz[TR]; how many did money [sic] pox kill?
14:00 schestowitz[TR]; 1?
14:00 DaemonFC; Nobody in the United States.
14:00 DaemonFC; They admit that.
14:00 schestowitz[TR]; how many women are murdered by their male husband?
14:00 DaemonFC; They can't name one person in the US who has died of Monkeypox.
14:01 schestowitz[TR]; so maybe they should make a testosterone registry and survey
14:01 schestowitz[TR]; \but..
14:01 schestowitz[TR]; there's "no money" on that
14:01 DaemonFC; If you're not in the sex swing at the San Francisco bath house, you're "missing out" on Monkeypox, as mjg59_ might put it.
14:02 DaemonFC; The Open Sores Conference.
14:02 schestowitz[TR]; it wasn't open and not sore
14:02 schestowitz[TR]; until the perverts came
14:02 DaemonFC; GULAG workers getting together to discuss plans to use poppers and to deprecate POP3.
14:03 TR News; Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 1 release https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2022/09/msg00004.html
14:03 TR Bot; Debian Installer Bookworm Alpha 1 release
14:04 TR News; iTWire - Optus hit by huge data breach, up to 9m customers claimed affected https://itwire.com/security/optus-hit-by-huge-data-breach,-up-to-9m-customers-claimed-affected.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/optus-hit-by-huge-data-breach,-up-to-9m-customers-claimed-affected.html
14:04 TR Bot; - Optus hit by huge data breach, up to 9m customers claimed affected
14:05 TR News; Potion Permit - Chill Life Sim Begging for some Polish. - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/potion-permit-chill-life-sim-begging-for-some-polish/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/potion-permit-chill-life-sim-begging-for-some-polish/
14:05 TR Bot; Potion Permit - Chill Life Sim Begging for some Polish. - Boiling Steam
14:07 TR News; Michael Larabel knows how to make his site deprecated, fast https://www.phoronix.com/news/Microsoft-Mesa-Faster-VA-API see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/phoronix-and-microsoft-mesa/ clickbait that helps Microsoft
14:07 TR Bot; Speeds Up Mesa VA-API Video Acceleration For FFmpeg - Phoronix
14:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Thinks It Owns Mesa (and Computer Games) | Techrights
14:08 TR News; The shameless Microsoft propagandist and Linux basher Sofia Wycilik-Wilson likes the way Canonical is attacking us https://betanews.com/2022/09/22/microsoft-and-canonical-bring-systemd-support-to-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/
14:08 TR Bot; Microsoft and Canonical bring systemd support to Windows Subsystem for Linux
14:08 TR Bot; Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights
14:09 TR News; WSL: loved by people who HATE Linux. Coincidence? NO. The purpose of WSL is to ATTACK GNU/Linux. It's very obvious!
14:11 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: what ThinkPad do you use, R60s?
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; rianne uses an idepad iirc
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; thinkpads are expensive
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; even second-hand ones
14:13 matteobin; Ok, thanks.
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14:14 TR News; Cars become far too expensive to repair as they get more "sophisticated"; they're becoming too much of a financial burden to justify or be overcome by the perceived benefits of car ownership https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/22/buick-anti-lock-brake-module-costs-790-to-replace-and-reprogram-also-richard-stallman-is-not-an-economist-and-the-post-covid-american-dystopia/
14:14 TR Bot; Buick Anti-Lock Brake Module costs $790 to replace and reprogram. Also, Richard Stallman is not an economist, and the Post-COVID American dystopia. | BaronHK's Rants
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: you got a luxury clunker
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14:14 schestowitz[TR]; now with "EXTRA" petrol price
14:14 psydruid; matteobin, when you become a Debian Developer we will worship you and look towards you for guidance every day of the week
14:15 MinceR; 22 145357 < schestowitz[TR]> ICBM failed to take oevr this market
14:15 MinceR; what about the likes of samsung (with tizen and whatever)?
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; android is big there too
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; some car frameworks are build with android
14:15 matteobin; psydruid, are you mocking me?
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; I saw one new cars-centric package earlier this month
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; iut';s new and based on android
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; some move from "linux" to Android (also Linux)
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: he mocks debian
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; fow how they treat some DDs
14:16 psydruid; matteobin: no, I am encouraging you to go for it
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/debian-social-contract/
14:16 TR Bot; Scientific Excellence and the Debian Social Contract | Techrights
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/05/08/debian-slapping-volunteers/
14:16 TR Bot; Debian is Not Defending Volunteers by SLAPPing Other Volunteers, It Just Tarnishes the Communitys Reputation and Brand | Techrights
14:16 TR News; (NEW): Games: Steam, Minigalaxy, RPG Zoria: Age of Shattering, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Games_Steam_Minigalaxy_RPG_Zoria_Age_of_Shattering_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Games_Steam_Minigalaxy_RPG_Zoria_Age_of_Shattering_and_More.gmi
14:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Steam, Minigalaxy, RPG Zoria: Age of Shattering, and More
14:17 MinceR; 22 145519 < XRevan86> CrystalMath: DaemonFC doesn't take orders from anyone.
14:17 MinceR; "Daleks do not take orders!"
14:17 schestowitz[TR]; under the guise of "anti-hatrrassment" some -people inside debian allower serial harassers to enter
14:18 schestowitz[TR]; and go after productive devs
14:19 TR News; You cant stop me. MS Teams session hijacking and bypass | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/you-cant-stop-me-ms-teams-session-hijacking-and-bypass/ Microsoft the back doors company http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
14:19 TR Bot; You cant stop me. MS Teams session hijacking and bypass | Pen Test Partners
14:19 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
14:20 XRevan86; MinceR: It was a Doctor Who reference but from https://youtu.be/t0CiX4ok-so?t=15
14:20 TR Bot; NO TITLE
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 TR News; DRM garbage. Fools will rent and rent... and run out of money, and STILL left with ZERO OWNERSHIP https://www.maketecheasier.com/spotify-audiobooks/
14:20 TR Bot; Look Out, Audible, Spotify Now Has Audiobooks - Make Tech Easier
14:20 MinceR; XRevan86: :)
14:23 psydruid; Spotify is nice to discover some lesser-known music, but I would never spend anything on a subscription
14:23 TR News; FSF slection criteria: MUST NOT UPSET OUR CORPORATE PATRONS https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-awards-nominate-those-who-have-charted-a-course-to-freedom-by-november-30 see http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/
14:23 TR Bot; Free Software Awards: Nominate those who have charted a course to freedom by November 30 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
14:23 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: downloads loads of music
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; tghen find what you like in it
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; you can keep it all
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; no subscription
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; WxSW ..
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; it won't eat up youyr bbbbandwidth either
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; except initial download
14:24 schestowitz[TR]; and you can pass it on
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; no digital shackles
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; today's laptops don't have much storage space
14:25 psydruid; schestowitz[TR]: that doesn't work if you don't even know the groups and individual artists, although there are things like last.fm that could help
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; it's all "clown"
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: not true
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; download 100 tracks
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; then browse
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; and flag what you fancy
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; in amarok they used to have scoring
14:25 psydruid; download them where?
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; torrent for instance
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; some is free to share
14:25 schestowitz[TR]; they do promotions
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; last time I sapid for music... wow, I cannmot even recall
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; *paid
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; 90s for sure
14:26 matteobin; I do still buy CDs, used or new, and I do buy from Bandcamp.
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; like dog eat dog for 2 pounds
14:26 psydruid; maybe that's true if you only listen to western music, but I've discovered a lot of non-western music on Spotify
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; then some sinatra classics... those were super cheap also
14:27 MinceR; https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members
14:27 TR Bot; Members of the Linux Foundation
14:27 MinceR; i just noticed that the "Linux Foundation" is an associate member of the "Linux Foundation"
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; heavy page
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; they don't know the web
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; and never partitioind the page
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; it's insane
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; way to game it counter
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; for all those logos
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; last I checkedc
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; they have hundreds of logos
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; LF is ja shell game anyway
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; LE is part of LF
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; Let's Encrypt
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; same adfdress
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; same office
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; shell game
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; pentagonistic piece of ***
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; even the same accountant
14:30 MinceR; it does trigger image loading with a script though, to make it even more of a pain to use or save
14:33 matteobin; Wanna see a light website?
14:33 matteobin; https://choice.tiepi.it/
14:33 TR Bot; Server Choice dal 2013
14:34 TR News; (NEW): Web Browsers: Apache and HTTP/HTML http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Web_Browsers_Apache_and_HTTP_HTML.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Web_Browsers_Apache_and_HTTP_HTML.gmi
14:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Web Browsers: Apache and HTTP/HTML
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: also fast
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; static
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: the LF site is awful
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; on many levels
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; I saw many incarnations of it
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; they are based in SF
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; whiich means they hire men with mustard bottle
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; pouring our lots of crap into your fooda
14:36 matteobin; What is SF?
14:36 matteobin; *LF
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; (caricature in mind)
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; san francisco
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; where pantagon, saudi arabais and other pour out money
14:36 schestowitz[TR]; to make oppressive 'soif' 'ware'
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; sorry for many typos
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; they make everything on the web just javascript "apps"
14:37 matteobin; I know. It was a typo: I meant LF.
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; and never any useful software
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; in europe people make some real software
14:37 schestowitz[TR]; no "telemetry" and weaponry
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14:39 schestowitz[TR]; SF turns the web to cyber warfare
14:39 matteobin; What is LF?
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; LF turns FOSS into corporate "assets"
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; LF is Liars Foundtation
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; it's a corporation
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; run bya fraud called James Zemlinnnnn
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; married to a microsofter
14:40 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation
14:40 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
14:40 DaemonFC; MinceR"Daleks do not take orders!"
14:40 schestowitz[TR]; "wait for your turn"
14:40 DaemonFC; You are superior in only one way! Cyberman: And what is that? Dalek: You are better at DYING!
14:40 MinceR; :>
14:41 matteobin; Got it: LF stands for Linux Foundation!
14:41 psydruid; Leprechaun Fanclub
14:41 TR News; Clickfraud spamnil issuing more spam for LF now. CNCF. These people literally VIOLATE the terms and conditions in sites on the Web. Anything to promote their bad agenda.
14:41 psydruid; Los Franciscos
14:42 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation still violates Twitter "terms of service" by SELLING "tweets" http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/
14:42 TR Bot; Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights
14:42 MinceR; Linux-Destroying Foundation
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: lf is based in sf http://techrights.org/2022/09/01/linux-foundation-mission-creep/
14:43 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation Has Formally Changed Its Mission! (Based on IRS Files) | Techrights
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; linux was oeregon absed before
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; and before that helsinki
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; then linus moved to california
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; chasing $
14:44 matteobin; You guys on IRC use so many different acronyms!
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; he now gets almost $2 million per year to nod to GAFAM
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; and say yes to things he knows to be bad
14:44 MinceR; we guys in IT use so many different acronyms
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; in exchange they let him pretend he is in charge
14:44 matteobin; Just like the James Bond forum at mi6-hq.com.
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; and then used his node as badge of approval
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; for the supposed "community"
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; which he bashes
14:45 matteobin; From Russia With Love becomes FRWL, No Time to Die => NTtD.
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; MAGMA
14:45 matteobin; What a mouthful!
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft Apple Gulag Meta Amazon
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid coined it
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; but last week someone from gnome used it
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; in gemini and in http
14:46 schestowitz[TR]; GAFAM I coined with Julian Assange
14:46 schestowitz[TR]; a very long time ago
14:46 matteobin; Do you think an IBM ThinkPad 380z can handle NetBSD? https://www.ebay.it/itm/144724972395
14:46 TR Bot; IBM ThinkPad 380z Type 2635 Intel Pentium 2 64mb di RAM Senza HDD Retr Vintage | eBay
14:46 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft lobbyists now push a new term
14:46 schestowitz[TR]; "big tech"
14:47 MinceR; dunno
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; netbsd for a laptop?
14:47 MinceR; NetBSD couldn't handle my SteelSeries Rival 600 :(
14:48 TR News; I dont know#HowTo solve prompt injection https://simonwillison.net/2022/Sep/16/prompt-injection-solutions/ Source: Simon Willison | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//simonwillison.net/2022/Sep/16/prompt-injection-solutions/
14:48 TR Bot; I dont know how to solve prompt injection
14:49 matteobin; Isn't NetBSD good for a laptop? How about 9front?
14:49 matteobin; I thought NetBSD was less resource intensive than GNU/Linux.
14:50 schestowitz[TR]; for pi maybe
14:50 schestowitz[TR]; sbc
14:50 matteobin; Why not for a laptop?
14:51 matteobin; Or a PowerPC Mac mini from 2005 for that matter?
14:56 psydruid; OpenBSD
14:56 matteobin; Is it better for laptops?
14:56 matteobin; Isn't NetBSD easier to port?
14:57 psydruid; It's better to think of systems as in combinations of hardware and operating systems
14:58 psydruid; It may be easier to port, but if it doesn't work with your hardware and some other operating system(d) does, most people will choose the latter
14:58 MinceR; OCP pioneered cyborg technology State of the art destructive capabilities Commanded by a unique combination of software and organic systems
14:58 psydruid; NetBSD has only worked "better" on my ARM SBC
14:59 matteobin; I'll try OpenBSD then.
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 13.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 161.81
14:59 MinceR; OpenBSD worked mostly fine on both laptops i used it on, but it was slow on both
14:59 matteobin; I was really enthused by NetBSD portability.
14:59 matteobin; Why do you think is that?
15:00 MinceR; \_()_/
15:00 MinceR; i found something, then found out the fix to it was already in OpenBSD when i first tried it
15:00 matteobin; Ah ah ah! Silly question on my part, forgive me! :D
15:00 MinceR; there was also a suggestion that maybe intel GPU drivers are lacking
15:01 MinceR; but i haven't looked into that
15:01 matteobin; Have you ever tried OpenBSD on a PowerPC Mac mini?
15:01 MinceR; no
15:01 MinceR; i've tried a crApple PC before, and it was laughably bad
15:01 MinceR; but it was running macOS
15:02 TR News; Learn about the new BGP capabilities in Red Hat OpenStack 17 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/22/learn-about-new-bgp-capabilities-red-hat-openstack-17 Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/22/learn-about-new-bgp-capabilities-red-hat-openstack-17
15:02 TR Bot; Learn about the new BGP capabilities in Red Hat OpenStack 17 | Red Hat Developer
15:02 psydruid; OpenBSD runs fine on Apple PowerPC hardware
15:02 TR News; Surveillance as a science. Thanks, ICBM. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/data-science-engineer-day-life
15:02 TR Bot; Data science engineer: A day in the life | The Enterprisers Project
15:03 matteobin; I have this Mac mini from 2005, which I used to use 15 years ago. I would like to keep using it, but with a free OS. Originally it ran Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.
15:03 DaemonFC; MinceR: You're forgetting the killer feature that Intel GPUs have that will win the day.
15:04 TR News; Fedora is blogging on Microsoft proprietary software; sad and ironic.. https://fedora-copr.github.io//posts/api3-migraition-helper Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fedora-copr.github.io//posts/api3-migraition-helper
15:04 TR Bot; Migrate to APIv3 queries
15:04 DaemonFC; 1: They can pay Microsoft Larabel to write a nice article about them every 5 minutes.
15:04 psydruid; there is barely any GNU/Linux distribution left that supports such hardware out of the box and officially
15:04 DaemonFC; 2: Extreme price cuts until nobody cares how bad they are because they're cheap.
15:04 psydruid; I never ran Mac OS X for more than a few hours
15:04 TR News; Explore OpenShift APIs from the command line | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/openshift-api Source: ICBM/Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/openshift-api
15:04 TR Bot; Explore OpenShift APIs from the command line | Enable Sysadmin
15:05 psydruid; I saw enough coloured beach balls of death for a lifetime
15:06 psydruid; The joke is that they could have kept PowerPC indefinitely with the PA Semi acquisition, but by then they had already moved to Intel
15:06 psydruid; and started working on ARM in the background
15:07 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL: Citus 11.1 and pg_stat_monitor 1.1.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/PostgreSQL_Citus_11_1_and_pg_stat_monitor_1_1_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/PostgreSQL_Citus_11_1_and_pg_stat_monitor_1_1_0.gmi
15:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL: Citus 11.1 and pg_stat_monitor 1.1.0
15:09 TR News; Flying somewhere just to see a band for a couple of hours? Seems like unneeded pollution. https://jmtd.net/log/nin_cornwall/
15:09 TR Bot; jmtd log Nine Inch Nails, Cornwall, June
15:11 TR News; Taking My Workshop Offgrid Using EcoFlow Power Kits - The DIY Life https://www.the-diy-life.com/taking-my-workshop-offgrid-using-ecoflow-power-kits/ Source: The DIY Life | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.the-diy-life.com/taking-my-workshop-offgrid-using-ecoflow-power-kits/
15:11 TR Bot; Taking My Workshop Offgrid Using EcoFlow Power Kits - The DIY Life
15:11 MinceR; not only have they moved to intHell, but in their usual fashion, they've already badmouthed PPC
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM
15:11 MinceR; according to the cupertino mafia, every technology is the worst crap ever until crApple starts using it, then it becomes the best thing ever.
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; how about SPARC?
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; Oracle killed it
15:11 schestowitz[TR]; 'open'SPARC
15:11 MinceR; it's owned by Obstacle
15:12 TR News; (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi
15:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers
15:12 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 22.10s New Wallpaper is an Absolute Knock-Out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Ubuntu_22_10_s_New_Wallpaper_is_an_Absolute_Knock_Out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Ubuntu_22_10_s_New_Wallpaper_is_an_Absolute_Knock_Out.gmi
15:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.10s New Wallpaper is an Absolute Knock-Out
15:12 matteobin; Apple invented the dark mode too! :D
15:12 DaemonFC; Yes, it was quite revolutionary. The only thing anyone thought of in UX design previously was light gray text on a light gray background.
15:14 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: in the 1980s
15:16 psydruid; POWER is a bit cumbersome to program for compared to ARM and RISC-V, but it was there decades ago with MIPS, SPARC, Alpha, PA-RISC etc.
15:16 psydruid; ARM was 32-bit until 2011
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15:19 TR News; "autonomous vehicles" = UNSAFE cars. STOP trying to compensate for a bad idea with better shilling, marketing, lobbying, buzzwords https://siliconangle.com/2022/09/20/nvidia-drive-thor-delivers-2000-teraflops-unifies-intelligent-functions/
15:19 TR Bot; 2,000 teraflops, Nvidia Drive Thor unifies intelligent auto functions - SiliconANGLE
15:19 TR News; "Vehicles with the chipset will be able to run Linux, QNX and Android simultaneously." https://www.engadget.com/nvidia-autonomous-vehicle-chipset-drive-thor-164538911.html
15:19 TR Bot; reveals its next-gen chipset for autonomous vehicles | Engadget
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 TR News; Mobility in a car was all the rage BEFORE we were deeply interconnected digitally (and device mobility).
15:22 TR News; (NEW): EuroLinux Desktop is an RHEL-based Distro With Enterprise Perks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/EuroLinux_Desktop_is_an_RHEL_based_Distro_With_Enterprise_Perks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/EuroLinux_Desktop_is_an_RHEL_based_Distro_With_Enterprise_Perks.gmi
15:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines EuroLinux Desktop is an RHEL-based Distro With Enterprise Perks
15:26 TR News; (NEW): Devices: EcoFlow Power Kits, Framework, and Peripherals http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Devices_EcoFlow_Power_Kits_Framework_and_Peripherals.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Devices_EcoFlow_Power_Kits_Framework_and_Peripherals.gmi
15:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Devices: EcoFlow Power Kits, Framework, and Peripherals
15:27 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
15:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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15:32 DaemonFC; I ran Mac OS X on an AMD Athlon64 system.
15:32 DaemonFC; I had to patch the shit out of it though.
15:33 DaemonFC; There were no Athlon64 Macs, and certainly not with an Nvidia graphics card.
15:33 DaemonFC; bbl
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15:35 schestowitz[TR]; hackintosh?
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15:39 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Europe, FUD, and FSF http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Free_Software_Europe_FUD_and_FSF.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Free_Software_Europe_FUD_and_FSF.gmi
15:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Europe, FUD, and FSF
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15:53 TR News; (NEW): Security: Microsoft, More Breaches, and Fake Security From CISA (Back Doors' Proponents and Pushers) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Microsoft_More_Breaches_and_Fake_Security_From_CISA_Ba.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Microsoft_More_Breaches_and_Fake_Security_From_CISA_Ba.gmi
15:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: Microsoft, More Breaches, and Fake Security From CISA (Back Doors' Proponents and Pushers)
15:54 TR News; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fwupd_1_8_5_Adds_New_Plugin_to_Display_SMU_Firmware_Version_on_.shtml
15:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fwupd 1.8.5 Adds New Plugin to Display SMU Firmware Version on AMD APU/CPUs
15:54 TR News; (NEW): Fwupd 1.8.5 Adds New Plugin to Display SMU Firmware Version on AMD APU/CPUs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fwupd_1_8_5_Adds_New_Plugin_to_Display_SMU_Firmware_Version_on_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fwupd_1_8_5_Adds_New_Plugin_to_Display_SMU_Firmware_Version_on_.gmi
16:04 TR News; Links 22/09/2022: GNOME Builder 43.0 and Hype Over Ubuntu Wallpaper | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/gnome-builder-43-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/gnome-builder-43-0/
16:04 TR Bot; Links 22/09/2022: GNOME Builder 43.0 and Hype Over Ubuntu Wallpaper | Techrights
16:04 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
16:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
16:05 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/MIVoZ9O.jpeg
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16:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:22 TR News; Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-comeback-in-england/
16:22 TR Bot; Blog Archive Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England
16:36 TR News; It Has Now Been Over Two Months and No Excess Mortality Figures Published by Our Government https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-19-numbers-4pm-nothing-else/
16:36 TR Bot; Blog Archive It Has Now Been Over Two Months and No Excess Mortality Figures Published by Our Government
16:39 TR News; Our regime oursourced our death data to MICROSOFT. Digusting. Corruption. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions
16:39 TR Bot; mortality in England and English regions - GOV.UK
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16:53 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: matteobin thinks MinceR is very negative
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; I explained some people look at the worst cases
16:53 schestowitz[TR]; inc. you
16:53 TR News; Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/figures-from-office-for-national-statistics/
16:53 TR Bot; Blog Archive Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 142.45
17:00 highest_cubist_thrills; WE are occasionally being asked why this Web site bears a negative tone in the sense that it mostly covers bad news.
17:00 highest_cubist_thrills; http://techrights.org/2009/08/31/boycott-novell-as-negative/
17:00 TR Bot; Why So Negative? | Techrights
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; Microsoft is covered a lot because Microsoft is by far the biggest opponent to Free software, and certainly the most active one.
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; In a very recent interview, Richard Stallman explained that he tends to look at the lurking dangers rather than savour too much the victories. Resting on ones laurels is unwise if the saying only the paranoid survive holds true.
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; #therealrichardstallman
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; #2009
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; e tends to look at the lurking dangers rather than savour too much the victories. Resting on ones laurels is unwise
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the lurking dangers
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; he doesnt tend to look at the lurking dangers anymore
17:01 highest_cubist_thrills; only the greatest hits
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; its like trying to go after a polymorphic computer virus with a hashsum
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and it fails
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; if you want to solve problems
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; you have to admit problems
17:02 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre an alcoholic, you cant address the issue with "walks on the beach are so nice, i like the smooth scrolling"
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; you have to admit that alcoholism is going to ruin your life if you do nothing.
17:03 matteobin; highest_cubist_thrills: #therealrichardstallman? Nowadays is he not Richard Stallman anymore?
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; admitting the problem is the first step
17:03 TR News; "we became aware of some useful tutorial videos created by Steven Davids" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/22/video-tutorials-for-libreoffice-writer-calc-and-impress/
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; but we could just sit around and suck off bill gates all day
17:03 TR Bot; Video tutorials for LibreOffice Writer, Calc and Impress - The Document Foundation Blog
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; ive been hearing open source people trying to blow sunshine up my arse for yaers
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; you know what?
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre not so goddamned positive.
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; look at the bullshit they made up about stallman.
17:03 highest_cubist_thrills; these people are sadists
17:04 TR News; "LibreOffices presentation tool, Impress, includes a bunch of features for home and office use. But one thing thats missing is recording and playback for audio comments in presentations." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/22/crowdfund-audio-recording-and-playback-in-libreoffice-presentations/
17:04 TR Bot; Crowdfund audio recording and playback in LibreOffice presentations! - The Document Foundation Blog
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; in the words of bob ross, be sure to make all your suicides look like happy suicides
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; take a happy little gun and swallow a happy little bullet
17:04 highest_cubist_thrills; GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE!
17:05 highest_cubist_thrills; also nothing i said to that artist you had here for a while was untrue
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; https://techrights.org/2020/11/20/open-letter-mogzagain/
17:06 TR Bot; Open Letter to Mogzagain (No Worries) | Techrights
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; you know whats negative? mozilla.
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; not only did they spread a bunch of lies to cancel stallman
17:06 highest_cubist_thrills; which were EXTREMELY negative
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; when i tried to click ont he above link, the browser says
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; OMG!
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; what do they mean
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; they mean its not a hostage of lienuks foundation
17:07 highest_cubist_thrills; Im really questioning why these are posted. Very demoralising, and this one seems to say overall that none of us are joining forces or investing assets/time/effort/support, but users should fix linux themselves.
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; Lets see users should fix linux themselves is not exactly what I would say.
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; Linux is an operating system kernel. It takes skilled developers to maintain that. Skilled developers cover a very wide range of things, but I do not expect users (per se) to fix Linux.
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; so you know, people read what they are thinking, they dont always think what theyre reading
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; "
17:08 highest_cubist_thrills; What I had hoped was that the people already making it free (linux-libre developers) could expand into fixing other things. "
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; not meaning to be unpleasant, but its taken me half an hour to calm down enough to hopefully contribute something that might lift things
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i dunno
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe shes trying too hard
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; polishing a turd takes a lot of elbow grease
17:09 highest_cubist_thrills; it was never meant to shine.
17:09 techuser; > lienuks foundation | not necessarily. You have a choice of either Linux Foundation or Cloudflare, as I see it rn
17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; if rms/oliva joined forces, steering things with a strong hand, small numbers, and refusing big tech, there could be hope
17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, and if a frog had wings he wouldnt bump his arse when he hopped
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17:10 highest_cubist_thrills; figosdev should consider that telling others to fix linux isnt going to work when you tell ppl the leaders wont unite and nobodys really doing anything
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17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, developers only screw up because people put their pom-poms down
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, theyve got legions of yes-men and what have you
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; but a few critics will destroy it
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; now, the most hilarious thing about this entire thesis is...
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; back when free software was the new thing in town
17:11 schestowitz[TR]; thre are people who fight back
17:11 schestowitz[TR]; but they too become target
17:11 highest_cubist_thrills; these people were the same ones who said you could never take it seriously
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; and the media is not on their side
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; too busy taking bill bribes
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; thre are people who fight back <- yeah, but you dont wanna name names
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; there really arent
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; no ones fighting back
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; they get 'canceled'
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; until they lose will
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no fighting
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; and become more passive or quiet
17:12 highest_cubist_thrills; they get 'canceled' <- suck it up. stallman did. sort of.
17:12 schestowitz[TR]; that's like putin sending his critics to literal gulags
17:13 TR News; (NEW): ExTiX 22.9 KDE Plasma together with Anbox ('Android in a Box' with Google Play Store pre-installed) :: Build 220922 | http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/ExTiX_22_9_KDE_Plasma_together_with_Anbox_Android_in_a_Box_with.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/ExTiX_22_9_KDE_Plasma_together_with_Anbox_Android_in_a_Box_with.gmi
17:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines ExTiX 22.9 KDE Plasma together with Anbox ('Android in a Box' with Google Play Store pre-installed) :: Build 220922 |
17:14 highest_cubist_thrills; and become more passive or quiet <- including the chief sonderkommando
17:14 highest_cubist_thrills; the sonderkommanden were the prisoners who had to sweep up the ashes of the dead during the holocaust
17:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its an extreme metaphor to be sure
17:15 highest_cubist_thrills; but if we try to find something less "edgy" we surely wont find a metaphor for the state of free software that is so fitting
17:15 highest_cubist_thrills; which is why mike godwin is a nazi cuck
17:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but idc
17:16 TR News; KDE neon 20220922 https://neon.kde.org/
17:16 TR Bot; KDE neon
17:16 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman is retained so he can sweep up the ashes of his own creation
17:16 highest_cubist_thrills; exiled in place
17:16 highest_cubist_thrills; how do we put a positive spin on julian assange dying in prison
17:16 TR News; SmartOS 20220922 also released today https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
17:16 TR Bot; SmartOS | Joyent
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; under conditions that violate the udhr and various other treaties on human rights
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; the queen is dead
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; who cares
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; she can send assange a postcard
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; "dont worry jules, all is well"
17:17 TR News; Mental health's racial gap https://rochesterbeacon.com/2022/09/22/mental-healths-racial-gap/
17:17 TR Bot; Mental healths racial gap - Rochester BeaconRochester Beacon
17:17 highest_cubist_thrills; "see you soon"
17:18 highest_cubist_thrills; theres a word for people who want to paint everything yellow
17:18 highest_cubist_thrills; toxic positivity
17:18 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> how do we put a positive spin on julian assange dying in prison
17:18 schestowitz[TR]; you can defame him
17:18 highest_cubist_thrills; its really just constant emotional gaslighting
17:18 schestowitz[TR]; like mjg59_ does all the time
17:18 schestowitz[TR]; "no great loss"
17:19 highest_cubist_thrills; id really rather not
17:19 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg is not a role model
17:19 schestowitz[TR]; the guy who exposed criminals... is a criminal
17:19 highest_cubist_thrills; he teaches-- possibly well
17:19 highest_cubist_thrills; idk
17:19 schestowitz[TR]; establishment
17:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but hes not a role model
17:19 schestowitz[TR]; they propmote BS
17:19 schestowitz[TR]; corporations, fake security (back doors) etc.
17:19 schestowitz[TR]; they need their phones and liars
17:19 highest_cubist_thrills; they propmote BS <- well thats what it comes down to
17:19 schestowitz[TR]; *phonies
17:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean everyone is influencer now
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 highest_cubist_thrills; its crowdsourced marketing
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; influencer? no
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; the platforms choose winners
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; youtube
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; twqitter
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; fb
17:20 highest_cubist_thrills; hey everybody, dont just kneel down and swallow this commercial message
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; they also let you buy numbers
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; to fake it
17:20 highest_cubist_thrills; spit some of it into the mouth of everyone you meet
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; so the platform owners set the tone and agenda
17:20 schestowitz[TR]; based on the owners
17:20 highest_cubist_thrills; show them your tits-- and tell them you love windows!
17:21 schestowitz[TR]; "windows 7 was my idea"
17:21 highest_cubist_thrills; #realitytv #productplacement #topinfluencer
17:21 techuser; IRC is better than love
17:21 highest_cubist_thrills; granted i have nothing wrong with people showing their tits
17:21 highest_cubist_thrills; just that people should stop doing free marketing for bad corporations
17:21 highest_cubist_thrills; this software should belong to the people
17:21 highest_cubist_thrills; that means developers, yes
17:22 TR News; Hospitals filling up with COVID-19 patients when mass gatherings for the Queen are held (COVID-19 likely contributed to her death) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-comeback-in-england/
17:22 TR Bot; Blog Archive Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England
17:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but also users
17:22 TR News; "The Web is moving fast, just like software. A century is off the scale for computing (nothing lasts this long) and a decade is also a long time." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/35-years/
17:22 TR Bot; Blog Archive Looking Back at 35 Years (Sort of)
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17:24 techuser; did something crash?
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17:30 TR News; "They stopped releasing these reports when there was a massive COVID-19 surge. How convenient." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-19-numbers-4pm-nothing-else/
17:30 TR Bot; Blog Archive It Has Now Been Over Two Months and No Excess Mortality Figures Published by Our Government
17:30 TR News; "Notice how much of these bars (vertical) got blued this summer compared to prior pandemic summers" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/figures-from-office-for-national-statistics/
17:30 TR Bot; Blog Archive Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths
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17:31 highest_cubist_thrills; random shit in every random direction is also decentralised but its fucking useless
17:31 highest_cubist_thrills; look at how magenetism works-- its a law of physics, its an electromagnetic force
17:31 highest_cubist_thrills; its what computers (including mechanical ones) run on
17:31 highest_cubist_thrills; for magnetism to work
17:31 highest_cubist_thrills; the spin of some part of the atoms (id have to look it up to get this part right)
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; they have to be aligned
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; not perfectly-- just sufficiently
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; now, if you take a magnet
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; and hit it with a big hammer
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; it can demagnetise it
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; because the force causes the aligned spins to lose their alignment
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no coherence
17:32 highest_cubist_thrills; this is what you get when you behead a movement
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; if there are enough strong advocages (there werent, only weak dipshits, and oliva, who ill give a little more credit to beause at least he tried)
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; (probably)
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; advocates
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; then you take off the head and another rises up
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; one of the cunt organisations that beheaded the fsf was actually riseup
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; <- former member right here
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck rise up
17:33 highest_cubist_thrills; they stooped low
17:34 highest_cubist_thrills; you take off the head and another rises up
17:34 highest_cubist_thrills; that didnt happen
17:34 highest_cubist_thrills; they took of the head, and bill gates mini me popped out
17:34 highest_cubist_thrills; great!
17:34 highest_cubist_thrills; so any "coherence" left in the movement is based on ibm and microsoft
17:35 highest_cubist_thrills; which is exactly what they inteded
17:35 highest_cubist_thrills; way to punch up, riseup!
17:35 highest_cubist_thrills; well fucking done, you fucking morons
17:35 highest_cubist_thrills; thugs working for ibm, posing as progressives
17:35 highest_cubist_thrills; eat shit and die
17:35 highest_cubist_thrills; henry ford (nazi sympathiser) had thugs too
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; his business ran on thugs
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; the reason hollywood in california...
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; besides who doesnt want sunlight
17:36 AdmFubar; oh now!!! don't hold back! tell us how you really feel!
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; is that movie makers were "pirating" edisons "intellectual property"
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; edison (fords buddy) had thugs too
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; thugs who would shake down any producers who didnt kiss the ring
17:36 highest_cubist_thrills; it was just like a corporate mafia
17:37 highest_cubist_thrills; and that was in the early days of moving making-- so early it wasnt called hollywood yet
17:37 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
17:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
17:37 highest_cubist_thrills; because it was based in the eastern usa
17:37 highest_cubist_thrills; they wanted to get away from edisons thugs
17:37 highest_cubist_thrills; today ibm and microsoft have thugs everywhere
17:37 highest_cubist_thrills; and the fsf doesnt fight
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and oliva wants us to fucking marry them
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i told him no, a forced community is like a forced marriage.
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; theres nothing positive about a forced marriage
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; you either get lucky, or its hell on earht
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; this is free software hell.
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu is burning
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; assange is dying
17:38 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman is exiled in place
17:38 techuser; Andrew: ^ oh, maybe highest_cubist_thrills knows
17:39 highest_cubist_thrills; have a fucking cookie and cuddle a puppy. i think jim zemlins has some
17:39 highest_cubist_thrills; if his wife didnt eat them already
17:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the puppy.
17:39 MinceR; :>
17:39 highest_cubist_thrills; so yeah, sometimes i sound a little like mincer, maybe
17:40 highest_cubist_thrills; thats exactly why i like him
17:40 highest_cubist_thrills; hes got this half of it right
17:40 highest_cubist_thrills; the other half...
17:40 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, a lot of it is theoretical, isnt it
17:40 MinceR; don't worry, i'd never say i want anyone to cuddle a dog as an attempt to be comforted
17:40 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont think its stupid
17:40 highest_cubist_thrills; don't worry, i'd never say i want anyone to cuddle a dog <- i know, you hate dogs
17:41 highest_cubist_thrills; its not stupid to try to fix things
17:41 highest_cubist_thrills; its only stupid to say things are going well, while rome burns
17:41 highest_cubist_thrills; particularly if you live in rome.
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; i like the leftists that are neither reformers, nor the smash-everything-and-ask-questions-later type
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; ask questions first.
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; then smash only what you have to
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; most things should be taken over and rebuilt
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; some things should be smashed
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; if you smash everything though
17:42 highest_cubist_thrills; jesus, even kropotkin was a step ahead of you. you want to go back to the fucking 1800s.
17:43 highest_cubist_thrills; "SMASH THE BAKERY!" "wait! idiot"
17:43 highest_cubist_thrills; too late
17:43 highest_cubist_thrills; its a counterrevolution, theres nothing progressive about it
17:43 highest_cubist_thrills; and they have nothing to build in its place
17:44 highest_cubist_thrills; they must have thought things would just rebuild themselves
17:44 highest_cubist_thrills; nope, cause theyre fucking morons
17:44 highest_cubist_thrills; its like one of those cities in romania or belarus
17:44 highest_cubist_thrills; that were torn down by war and then
17:45 highest_cubist_thrills; instead of rebuilding
17:45 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre run by politicians that literally funnel all remaining money to themselves
17:45 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean mincer can tell you all about them, they obviously run hungary (im not being sarcastic, i dont differ with him on his opinion of hungarian leaders)
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; how is it going to be rebuilt when the only people left in charge are corrupt?
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, probably should have thought about that
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; this is why i compare it to iraq
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; now that saddam and stallman had so much in common (i mean there was the beard i guess)
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; but they were like
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; FUCK THIS GUY, HE WONT DO WHAT WE WANT!
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; AND WE WANT THE RESOURCES!
17:46 highest_cubist_thrills; and they toppled his statue and then hung hum in the square
17:47 highest_cubist_thrills; and then iraq got so much better
17:47 highest_cubist_thrills; nope
17:47 highest_cubist_thrills; it just got taken over by halliburton and the interim leader and imperialists
17:47 highest_cubist_thrills; NOT BETTER
17:47 highest_cubist_thrills; the same thing happened in iraq and the fsf
17:47 highest_cubist_thrills; same tactics, same promises! same results.
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; how am i supposed to put a positive spin on this
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17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; answer: i dont give a fuck
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; the more people ask me to, the more insane they have to be
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; its not getting better
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17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; its not going to anytime soon
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; this has gone on since 2018 at the latest
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; not 2019
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; that was a shame
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; and a sham
17:48 highest_cubist_thrills; 2018 was also a sham
17:49 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre just looking for excuses-- as was
17:49 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean iraq had nothing to do with 9/11
17:49 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman had nothing to do with epstein
17:49 highest_cubist_thrills; thought policing has nothing to do with "safety" at lieplanet either
17:49 highest_cubist_thrills; is lieplanet safe?
17:49 schestowitz[TR]; it's a bogus controversy
17:49 highest_cubist_thrills; no. its a complete liability.
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; that's what can even rile up the victim more
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; the target
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; that it is a false accusation
17:50 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> it's a bogus controversy <- the bogus controversy that ate the free software movement
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; anddd they never apologised or corrected themselves
17:50 highest_cubist_thrills; anddd they never apologised or corrected themselves <- and they never will
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; they will try again
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; more targets, same methods
17:50 highest_cubist_thrills; narcissists dont apologise for anything meaningful
17:50 highest_cubist_thrills; more targets, same methods <- yep
17:50 highest_cubist_thrills; its not a coup
17:50 highest_cubist_thrills; its a fucking occupation
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; ye, but we fight back
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; and you can win
17:51 highest_cubist_thrills; no you dont
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; they meanwhile fire many staff
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; icbm, mcirosoft..
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; .they are
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; they are suffering too
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; like russia
17:51 highest_cubist_thrills; no theyre not
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; while attackingf ukrainer
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; they both have casualties
17:51 highest_cubist_thrills; layoffs do not hurt ibm
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; oh really?
17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; thats like saying the third suffered, they lost millions of jews
17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; they were exterminating them
17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; third reich
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; and how did it all end up?
17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; the third reich suffers too, they had to shove so many people into ovens
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; they did a lot more
17:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and how did it all end up? <- this is a dumber question than you think
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; they killed tens of millions
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; because the problem was everyone fucking supported it
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; and much of europe won't trust germany for 100 years
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, they stopped it AFTER millions died.
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; we are still at the hundreds of thousands, metaphorically speaking
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; and youre like
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; "but the third reich is suffering too!"
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah well,
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; millions of metaphorical lives later
17:53 TR News; "For many years, the Linux community has claimed that running anti-virus programs is not necessary on Linux. But as Linux gains more popularity, and as more viruses start targeting Linux, is it time that we reconsider the need for AV on Linux?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=49eBJAKyrls
17:53 TR Bot; Should You Run Anti-Virus On Linux? - Invidious
17:53 highest_cubist_thrills; your thesis will be fucking irrelevant
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; because none of this is slowing down
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and your prognosis of ibm and microsoft should be written in crayon
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; or maybe fingerpaints
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; you are giving them what they want
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; a big smiley face painted with bullshit
17:54 highest_cubist_thrills; exactly what i will not do
17:55 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm and microsoft arent suffering
17:55 highest_cubist_thrills; its a nice thought
17:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but its crap
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; people arent fighting
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; and its not enough
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; and pretending isnt fixing shit
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf pretends-- does it help? no.
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; it covers up the problem
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; its like an alcoholic hiding the bottles
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; "ive been drinking less!"
17:56 highest_cubist_thrills; no you havent, you just threw the bottles out
17:57 TR News; Came Full Circle - Even a Stopped Clock https://blog.jimmac.eu/2022/came-full-circle/ Source: Jakub Steiner | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jimmac.eu/2022/came-full-circle/
17:57 TR Bot; Came Full Circle - Even a Stopped Clock
17:57 highest_cubist_thrills; smirnoff is losing money! because of putin
17:57 highest_cubist_thrills; yada yada yada
18:00 highest_cubist_thrills; the free software directory is mostly github and stallman cancellers
18:00 highest_cubist_thrills; WAY more than half
18:00 highest_cubist_thrills; so i went through the entire thing
18:00 highest_cubist_thrills; and removed all that
18:00 highest_cubist_thrills; the entire. thing.
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; it took months
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; why?
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; its not easy to find a metric that represents the state of free software
18:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the state of the ACTUALLY positive
18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; whats actually left?
18:02 TR News; "This has prompted Chainguard to produce Wolfi, a new Linux '(un)distribution' and build toolchain, that's been designed from the ground up to produce container images that meet the requirements of a secure software supply chain." https://betanews.com/2022/09/22/wolfi-linux-is-designed-to-safeguard-the-software-supply-chain/
18:02 TR Bot; Wolfi Linux is designed to safeguard the software supply chain
18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; well, ive done more (detailed) research on that than anyone
18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; youve done more research thats broader-- plenty of details, but broader
18:02 highest_cubist_thrills; like stalins plowing
18:03 TR News; Indias Draft Telecommunication Bill must be revamped to protect human rights - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/telecommunication-bill-india/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/telecommunication-bill-india/
18:03 TR Bot; Indias Draft Telecommunication Bill must be revamped to protect human rights - Access Now
18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; ive dug more than a metre into the soil
18:03 highest_cubist_thrills; to see whats left of this movement
18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; free software (the software) still exists
18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre certainly trying to put a yoke on everything, theyve done a good job
18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; but some things still exist
18:04 TR News; Art class stinks! Learn with smell in art class using this olfactory display | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/art-class-stinks-learn-with-smell-in-art-class-using-this-olfactory-display/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/art-class-stinks-learn-with-smell-in-art-class-using-this-olfactory-display/
18:04 TR Bot; Art class stinks! Learn with smell in art class using this olfactory display | Arduino Blog
18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; even if they put a yoke on that too
18:04 highest_cubist_thrills; at least ive got a fine collection of canaries
18:04 TR News; (NEW): OpenCL 3.0.12 Released With Command Buffers Mutable Dispatch Extension and Enhanced Layers Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OpenCL_3_0_12_Released_With_Command_Buffers_Mutable_Dispatch_Ex.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/OpenCL_3_0_12_Released_With_Command_Buffers_Mutable_Dispatch_Ex.gmi
18:04 TR Bot; Tux Machines OpenCL 3.0.12 Released With Command Buffers Mutable Dispatch Extension and Enhanced Layers Support
18:05 highest_cubist_thrills; but heres the thing
18:05 highest_cubist_thrills; if you look at the parts of the free software directory that arent on github, and arent stallman cancellers
18:05 highest_cubist_thrills; and didnt join the gnu.fools trademark fraud that you downplayed as a patsy of a corrupt fsf.
18:05 highest_cubist_thrills; because i scooped you.
18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; youll notice a trend in whats "left" of free software, at least according to the fsd
18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; its ancient. its old. MUCH of it is simply abandoned
18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, if youre looking for an image viewer
18:06 highest_cubist_thrills; and dont want github or traitors
18:07 highest_cubist_thrills; well, i have good news
18:07 highest_cubist_thrills; you can use xzgv
18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Xzgv
18:08 TR Bot; Xzgv - Free Software Directory
18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; actually... i should probably remove that
18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; 'xzgv' is a GTK+/Imlib-based picture viewer for X, which supports most popular image formats
18:08 highest_cubist_thrills; GTK+
18:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i believe gtk+ exists only on github
18:09 highest_cubist_thrills; but whatever, xzgv isnt based there
18:09 highest_cubist_thrills; and i guess i havent disqualified projects that use gtk+
18:09 highest_cubist_thrills; https://sourceforge.net/projects/xzgv/
18:09 TR Bot; image viewer download | SourceForge.net
18:09 highest_cubist_thrills; Picture viewer for the X Window System
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; the least traitorous picture viewer in the fsd
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; ive done my research.
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; its FUCKING OLD
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; and its STILL HERE, which-- good!
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, unix terms are still here, and theyre even older
18:10 highest_cubist_thrills; old isnt all bad-- gnome 2 > gnome 3
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; but when everything that hasnt joined a coup or joined github (which lets be real here, is also a coup)
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; is old
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; it suggests, VERY strongly
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; that no one is fighting
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; if we squint-- and we will have to
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; we can spot exceptions that prove the rule
18:11 highest_cubist_thrills; there must be a few people fighting, doing whats right
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the movement is dead
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; exceptions are few
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; but hey
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; we can still fool ourselves
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; credit where credit is due
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18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; no one who is fighting wants to talk about it
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre afraid to talk about it?
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; thats the state of free software
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; everyone is afraid to admit they stand for anything at all.
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; well
18:12 highest_cubist_thrills; thats TERRIFIC
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18:13 highest_cubist_thrills; sounds AWESOME
18:13 highest_cubist_thrills; really a thing i want to tell people to sign up for
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18:13 highest_cubist_thrills; join these doormice who squeek for your freedom
18:13 highest_cubist_thrills; theres at least four of them
18:13 highest_cubist_thrills; but theyre really good
18:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i always think IM being too negative you know
18:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought i was being too negative when i decided many years ago not to attend lieplanet with my then gf
18:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought the "guidelines" were to sjw-ish and too likely to lead to me being harassed over some misunderstanding
18:15 highest_cubist_thrills; but as ive said many times, i never thought that shit would lead to an actual organisational coup to behead the leadership
18:15 highest_cubist_thrills; the point is
18:15 highest_cubist_thrills; sometimes no amount of pessimism is enough
18:15 highest_cubist_thrills; thats why you cant say mincer is an idiot
18:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, hes not
18:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but its much worse-- all the evidence is on HIS side.
18:16 highest_cubist_thrills; thats bad!
18:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i try to find exceptions to the rule
18:17 highest_cubist_thrills; meanwhile, when the hubble fucking telescope finds a silver lining fucking light years from here
18:17 highest_cubist_thrills; these lieplanet cunts go and make a liar out of me for MERELY thinking its crap
18:17 highest_cubist_thrills; what i SHOULD HAVE SAID was its nuclear sentient concentrated EVIL bullshit on FIRE
18:18 highest_cubist_thrills; but i was trying to be positive about it.
18:18 highest_cubist_thrills; stupid me.
18:18 highest_cubist_thrills; if people want positivity
18:19 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe stop handing everything to literal nazi ibm, and their mini me, microsoft
18:19 highest_cubist_thrills; THEN we can talk about progress.
18:19 highest_cubist_thrills; that would be a good start!
18:20 highest_cubist_thrills; in the meantime
18:20 highest_cubist_thrills; pkg_add xzgv
18:20 highest_cubist_thrills; it works
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18:21 MinceR; if humans want positivity, they need to stop fucking everything up as hard as they can
18:23 TR News; Right wing politics on Gemini gemini://idiomdrottning.org/right-wing-politics-on-gemini "I couldnt fault anyone who bought into that worldview for going right wing. It doesnt surprise me. It just breaks my heart."
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19:43 AdmFubar; https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3pnkw/us-military-bought-mass-monitoring-augury-team-cymru-browsing-email-data https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22670252-1763_001
19:43 TR Bot; Revealed: US Military Bought Mass Monitoring Tool That Includes Internet Browsing, Email Data
19:43 TR Bot; DocumentCloud
19:44 AdmFubar; are you positive about that mince?
19:44 MinceR; no
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20:34 TR News; "It feels like this is inevitable on any open platform. Reactionaries love to be heard." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/66
20:34 TR News; Siddhartha by Herman Hesse gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/siddhartha.gmi
20:36 TR News; (NEW): Linux Vs Windows 10 Key Differences That One Should Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Vs_Windows_10_Key_Differences_That_One_Should_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Linux_Vs_Windows_10_Key_Differences_That_One_Should_Know.gmi
20:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Vs Windows 10 Key Differences That One Should Know
20:36 TR News; (NEW): Interview with Martin Dougiamas of Moodle http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Interview_with_Martin_Dougiamas_of_Moodle.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Interview_with_Martin_Dougiamas_of_Moodle.gmi
20:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Interview with Martin Dougiamas of Moodle
20:36 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
20:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
20:40 TR News; "We cover events and user groups that are running in Romania. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-romania/
20:40 TR Bot; Around The World: Romania - LinuxLinks
20:46 TR News; AOM-AV1 3.5 is out https://aomedia.googlesource.com/aom/+/refs/tags/v3.5.0
20:46 TR Bot; refs/tags/v3.5.0 - aom - Git at Google
20:46 MinceR; https://apina.biz/192213.png?mode=sfw
20:46 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/192213.png
20:47 TR News; Announcing Rust 1.64.0 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/09/22/Rust-1.64.0.html
20:47 TR Bot; Announcing Rust 1.64.0 | Rust Blog
20:49 TR News; 19 AnsibleFest 2022 presentations for sysadmins | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ansiblefest-sysadmins Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ansiblefest-sysadmins celebrating vendor lock-in, sort of...
20:49 TR Bot; 19 AnsibleFest 2022 presentations for sysadmins | Enable Sysadmin
20:50 TR News; Speaking of vendor lockin... https://ubuntu.com//blog/ros-orchestration-with-snaps
20:50 TR Bot; orchestration with snaps | Ubuntu
20:50 TR News; The draft Indian Telecommunication Bill, 2022 retains its colonial roots https://internetfreedom.in/the-draft-indian-telecommunication-bill/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/the-draft-indian-telecommunication-bill/
20:50 TR Bot; The draft Indian Telecommunication Bill, 2022 retains its colonial roots
20:51 TR News; "We have all required functionality implemented, and DXVK now requires Vulkan 1.3." https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=075cd3ca9421dee75270387b2d7f8898d593c2fd
20:51 TR Bot; mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)
20:51 TR News; radeonsi: enable glthread by default https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=d6fabe49cd72fb7f7087b12efd8a9e3371e36c01
20:51 TR Bot; mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)
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20:52 TR News; Docker, Inc. to Integrate Free SBOM Generation Tool - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/docker-inc-to-integrate-free-sbom-generation-tool/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/docker-inc-to-integrate-free-sbom-generation-tool/
20:52 TR Bot; Docker, Inc. to Integrate Free SBOM Generation Tool - Container Journal
20:53 TR News; "Im a sloppy typist. When I write several words in a row, like for example when creating complete sentences for something like a blog post, one or two of the words end up slightly misspelled." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/09/22/taking-curl-documentation-quality-up-one-more-notch/
20:53 TR Bot; curl documentation quality up one more notch | daniel.haxx.se
20:54 TR News; Rajeesh K Nambiar: FontForge gains ability to reuse OpenType rules for different fonts https://rajeeshknambiar.wordpress.com/2022/09/22/fontforge-gains-ability-to-reuse-opentype-rules-for-different-fonts/
20:54 TR Bot; FontForge gains ability to reuse OpenType rules for different fonts Soliloquies
20:55 TR News; Casting Perls before Splines | Saif [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/09/perls-before-splines.html Source: Perl | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//blogs.perl.org/users/saif/2022/09/perls-before-splines.html
20:55 TR Bot; Perls before Splines | Saif [blogs.perl.org]
20:56 TR News; Public Knowledge Warns Congress Against Adopting Controversial Journalism Competition and Preservation Act - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-warns-congress-against-adopting-controversial-journalism-competition-and-preservation-act/ Source: Public Knowledge
20:56 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Warns Congress Against Adopting Controversial Journalism Competition and Preservation Act - Public Knowledge
20:57 TR News; 4 Simple Steps to Clean Your Ubuntu System https://www.debugpoint.com/4-simple-steps-clean-ubuntu-system-linux/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.debugpoint.com/4-simple-steps-clean-ubuntu-system-linux/
20:57 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/4-simple-steps-clean-ubuntu-system-linux/ )
20:59 TR News; :tada: Turnip now exposes Vulkan 1.3 :tada: - Danylos blog https://blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/turnip-vulkan-1-3/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blogs.igalia.com/dpiliaiev/turnip-vulkan-1-3/
20:59 TR Bot; :tada: Turnip now exposes Vulkan 1.3 :tada: - Danylos blog
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 140.81
20:59 TR News; T-Watch-Keyboard-C3 with ESP32 "watch", ESP32-C3 keyboard looks like a miniature PC replica - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/22/t-watch-keyboard-c3-with-esp32-watch-esp32-c3-keyboard-looks-like-a-miniature-pc-replica/ Source: CNX Software
20:59 TR Bot; T-Watch-Keyboard-C3 with ESP32 "watch", ESP32-C3 keyboard looks like a miniature PC replica - CNX Software
21:00 TR News; NSA for telecoms. Insane! https://ubuntu.com//blog/public-cloud-for-telco-part-2-google-cloud-platform
21:00 TR Bot; cloud for telco Part 2: Google Cloud Platform | Ubuntu
21:00 starstreak; i use hexchat btw
21:00 starstreak; btw btw btw
21:00 DaemonFC; Well, the "UNIX" way is not always "the best" way, but operating systems don't have to limit themselves. They can copy ideas that worked on other systems and leave the rest.
21:01 DaemonFC; For example, Linux no longer abuses SWAP as a scratch pad, except maybe Debian.
21:01 DaemonFC; Temporary files are temporary. The POSIX standard makes no guarantee that they'll survive past a reboot.
21:02 TR News; A Python security fix breaks (some) bignums [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/907572/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/907572/
21:02 TR Bot; Python security fix breaks (some) bignums [LWN.net]
21:02 DaemonFC; They _should_ go onto a RAM disk, especially now that RAM and compression are cheap (price and computationally).
21:02 TR News; A pair of Rust kernel modules [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/907685/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/907685/
21:02 TR Bot; pair of Rust kernel modules [LWN.net]
21:03 TR News; </p></blockquote></li>
21:03 TR News; The transparent huge page shrinker [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/906511/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/906511/
21:03 TR Bot; transparent huge page shrinker [LWN.net]
21:03 DaemonFC; But high RAM systems have typically only needed a partition or file for SWAP because SWAP was being abused as a big tent, to put not only pages while the system was under pressure, but also for putting temporary files that should have been on the disk somewhere else, or even in RAM.
21:04 DaemonFC; What you have here is not so much a design or a standard, is that everyone just started doing it.
21:06 starstreak; i have 16GB of ram and i don't mind that my system uses 2GB
21:07 starstreak; and this is a 2013 computer
21:07 starstreak; my next computer is going to have 64gb ram
21:07 TR News; (NEW): Rust: Compiling in GCC, Adoption by Linux, and New Release http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Rust_Compiling_in_GCC_Adoption_by_Linux_and_New_Release.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Rust_Compiling_in_GCC_Adoption_by_Linux_and_New_Release.gmi
21:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Rust: Compiling in GCC, Adoption by Linux, and New Release
21:08 starstreak; its like the 90s again, when 64mb was a lot of ram
21:09 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.gmi
21:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
21:10 psydroid2; 256 GB of RAM to run KPatience
21:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: Chris eye exam chart over at ZDNet reviewed a fake cat and worked in a shout out to "Microsoft Teams". LOL
21:10 bnchs; hi
21:13 TR News; Notice how all the Linux haters and Microsoft boot lickers are CELEBRATING what Canonical is doing! https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-adds-systemd-to-the-windows-subsystem-for-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/
21:13 TR Bot; Microsoft adds 'systemd' to the Windows Subsystem for Linux
21:13 TR Bot; Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd | Techrights
21:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: zdnet will die in a few years
21:14 techuser; "future"
21:14 TR News; Codenotary CEO Moshe Bar Named to AlmaLinux Board of Directors https://www.citybiz.co/article/324292/codenotary-ceo-moshe-bar-named-to-almalinux-board-of-directors/
21:14 TR Bot; Codenotary CEO Moshe Bar Named to AlmaLinux Board of Directors | citybiz
21:14 techuser; by the time GNU/Linux is mainstream, it will be dead completely
21:14 techuser; we shouldn't have wasted our time
21:15 techuser; Luis64_gamer: I think it is relevant, however
21:15 techuser; (systemd in WSL)
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21:15 techuser; oh, though it is Windows 11
21:18 TR News; Update: 3 more regarding Wolfi https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml
21:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
21:19 TR News; Corruption disguised as 'journalism' by Crystal Crowder. "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by Creality.". So this review is fake, it's spam, sponsored by the company it's about. https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/creality-cr-laser-falcon-engraver/
21:19 TR Bot; Creality CR-Laser Falcon Engraver 10W: Smooth Engraving & Cutting - Make Tech Easier
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:22 TR News; Enterprise Linux Security Episode 43 - Grand Theft Data - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=O81Obqy8tBw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/O81Obqy8tBw
21:22 TR Bot; Enterprise Linux Security Episode 43 - Grand Theft Data - Invidious
21:22 TR News; "Found this "Solar Queen" at a gift shop in Stratford, Ontario. Too soon?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ajUP4rCty0
21:22 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=7ajUP4rCty0
21:22 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | #shorts Queen Elizabeth II Waves Goodbye - Invidious
21:23 TR News; Will Automation Replace Tech Jobs? @John Hammond - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hS4gYNeeKag | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/hS4gYNeeKag
21:23 TR Bot; Will Automation Replace Tech Jobs? @John Hammond - Invidious
21:24 TR News; EndeavourOS 22.9 overview | A terminal-centric distro with a vibrant and friendly community. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Nq5INWpPFxQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Nq5INWpPFxQ
21:24 TR Bot; EndeavourOS 22.9 overview | A terminal-centric distro with a vibrant and friendly community. - Invidious
21:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: "Chris Polack" seems to be going for the "How many junk articles can I write about McDonalds and Microsoft?" record.
21:26 DaemonFC; " The industry should treat C and C++ languages as 'deprecated', says Azure CTO." -Liam Tung
21:26 DaemonFC; LOL
21:26 DaemonFC; "Rust, which hit version 1.0 in 2020 and was born at Mozilla, is now being used within the Android Open Source Project (AOSP), at Meta, at Amazon Web Services, at Microsoft for parts of Windows and Azure, in the Linux kernel, and in many other places."
21:27 DaemonFC; Before Rust, 1.0 usually meant that something was stable, at least until a new major version was out.
21:27 TR News; Bobby Borisov helps Microsoft by promoting an ATTACK on GNU/Linux !!! https://linuxiac.com/wsl-systemd-support/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/ubuntu-windows-systemd/
21:27 TR Bot; WSL Gets Systemd Support, Here's How to Enable It
21:28 DaemonFC; If you want to constantly have to do code re-writes and refactoring due to breaking changes within a "stable" branch, you can use Rust.
21:28 TR News; Shop fan automatically activates when airborne particulates are present | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/shop-fan-automatically-activates-when-airborne-particulates-are-present/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/shop-fan-automatically-activates-when-airborne-particulates-are-present/
21:28 TR Bot; Shop fan automatically activates when airborne particulates are present | Arduino Blog
21:28 MinceR; 22 222622 < DaemonFC> " The industry should treat C and C++ languages as 'deprecated', says Azure CTO." -Liam Tung
21:28 MinceR; what language will that dumbass write a kernel in?
21:28 DaemonFC; That sounds a lot worse than figuring out your garbage collection situation in a C program.
21:28 TR News; Mokey is an affordable DIY laser engraver | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/mokey-is-an-affordable-diy-laser-engraver/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/22/mokey-is-an-affordable-diy-laser-engraver/
21:28 TR Bot; Mokey is an affordable DIY laser engraver | Arduino Blog
21:29 DaemonFC; "Engineers value its "memory safety guarantees"[...]Microsoft drove home this point in 2019 after revealing 70% of its patches in the past 12 years were fixes for memory safety bugs due largely to Windows being written mostly in C and C++. "
21:29 TR News; "I think ew0k killed his own idea by releasing Antenna. Antenna is great, especially since you can filter out specific feeds fairly easily, but if someday the community is willing to put collective effort into something less centralized, we could start with the above." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220922_right_wing
21:29 DaemonFC; It's a poor craftsman that blames his tools.
21:31 starstreak; my AI art generator uses 5GB ram
21:31 starstreak; it used to use 10 but there was an update
21:31 DaemonFC; MinceR: I've noticed that all of the really awful programs that just guzzle memory and crash seem to be written in Python.
21:31 DaemonFC; Maybe they should try to write an OS in that.
21:32 starstreak; That's why I hate python
21:32 DaemonFC; Because you're a transphobe?
21:32 DaemonFC; Only transphobes hate Python.
21:32 starstreak; you're a transphobe
21:32 TR News; Stop suppressing the population: authorities in Iran must #KeepItOn - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/iran-authorities-must-keepiton/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/iran-authorities-must-keepiton/
21:32 TR Bot; Stop suppressing the population: authorities in Iran must #KeepItOn - Access Now
21:32 MinceR; you're a towel!
21:32 starstreak; no, you're a towel
21:32 DaemonFC; I'm not a towel! YOU'RE A FUCKING TOWEL!
21:33 starstreak; no sir, you are in fact, the turd sandwich
21:33 DaemonFC; I'll think about this, but first I'm gonna get a little high.
21:33 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/kV2g1UZ.mp4
21:33 MinceR; you wanna get high?
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21:33 TR News; Arm Is The New RISC/Unix, RISC-V Is The New Arm https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/ Source: The Next Platform | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nextplatform.com/2022/09/22/arm-is-the-new-risc-unix-risc-v-is-the-new-arm/
21:33 TR Bot; Arm Is The New RISC/Unix, RISC-V Is The New Arm
21:33 starstreak; yeah i want to get high
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21:35 DaemonFC; MinceR: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gwxbr9iDhYs
21:35 TR Bot; Terminator 2 T1000 liquid body scene through prison bar door - Invidious
21:35 TR News; How We Fixed Reboot Loops on the Librem Mini - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/how-we-fixed-reboot-loops-on-the-librem-mini/ Source: Purism | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//puri.sm/posts/how-we-fixed-reboot-loops-on-the-librem-mini/
21:35 TR Bot; How We Fixed Reboot Loops on the Librem Mini Purism
21:35 DaemonFC; MinceR: Mom said that's how the neighbor's cat kept getting in to pee on her laundry.
21:36 DaemonFC; Our garage door didn't shut all the way and so the cat had a few inches to flatten itself and get in and pee all over her clothes hamper.
21:36 DaemonFC; So she threw the cat in the trunk and let it out in a field several miles from the house, and the thing found its way back to the neighbor several weeks later.
21:37 DaemonFC; The neighbor said, "Kathy, you'll never guess what happened. My cat was missing for 3 weeks and then he just walked right in!".
21:37 DaemonFC; And the cat was looking at her.
21:37 DaemonFC; She said it never came in to pee on the laundry again.
21:37 DaemonFC; They're not stupid.
21:39 DaemonFC; It just takes a lot for a cat to learn not to fuck with you.
21:39 DaemonFC; They always test the limits of what you'll let them get away with.
21:40 TR News; Cockpit 277 https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-277.html
21:40 TR Bot; Cockpit 277 Cockpit Project
21:40 DaemonFC; I broke my cats of some bad habits by spraying them with water every time they did it until they saw me reach for the spray bottle and stopped immediately. Eventually, they just stopped doing the thing.
21:40 TR News; Connecting to the RHEL web console, part 1: SSH access methods https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/connecting-rhel-web-console-part-1-ssh-access-methods Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/connecting-rhel-web-console-part-1-ssh-access-methods
21:40 TR Bot; Connecting to the RHEL web console, part 1: SSH access methods
21:41 DaemonFC; MinceR: My Maine Coon's name is Bobbi, so I just shorten it to Bob, and then I saw that Doctor Who episode with the Weeping Angel that killed Cleric Bob and then used his voice to taunt the doctor.
21:42 DaemonFC; He started calling it Angel Bob, so that's what I started calling the cat.
21:42 MinceR; :>
21:46 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: RISC-V, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Arduino_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Arduino_and_More.gmi
21:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: RISC-V, Arduino, and More
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21:48 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=41J1nbFABgk
21:48 TR Bot; Trust me (T-800 with minigun) | Terminator 2 [Remastered] - Invidious
21:48 DaemonFC; My favorite scene.
21:49 TR News; Bloat on top of bloat. Should browsers have this built in? https://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/how-to-inspect-element/
21:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/how-to-inspect-element/ )
21:50 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
21:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
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21:50 psydroid2; Azure CTO = Windows proponent Mark Russinovich
21:50 psydroid2; these people all parrot each other
21:51 TR News; WSL links do not, as per the usual, go into TuxMachines are Techrigths. WSL is Windows. We DO NOT COVER WINDOWS. WSL is even worse than Windows because it's a direct attack on GNU/Linux; this is its SOLE purpose.
21:52 TR News; So-called 'Linux' sites that cover/promote WSL obviously haven't the faintest clue about what's going on
21:53 TR News; (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.1.gmi
21:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers
21:53 TR News; WSL loves GNU/Linux like Putin loves Ukraine
21:53 TR News; (NEW): Videos/Shows: EndeavourOS, Enterprise Linux Security, The Linux Link Tech Show, Anti-Virus On Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Videos_Shows_EndeavourOS_Enterprise_Linux_Security_The_Linux_Li.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Videos_Shows_EndeavourOS_Enterprise_Linux_Security_The_Linux_Li.gmi
21:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos/Shows: EndeavourOS, Enterprise Linux Security, The Linux Link Tech Show, Anti-Virus On Linux
21:53 TR News; (NEW): Kdenlive Devs Need Your Help to Implement Nested Timelines, New Effects Panel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Kdenlive_Devs_Need_Your_Help_to_Implement_Nested_Timelines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Kdenlive_Devs_Need_Your_Help_to_Implement_Nested_Timelines.gmi
21:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive Devs Need Your Help to Implement Nested Timelines, New Effects Panel
21:54 TR News; Jim Zemlin loves Bill Gates. But Jim is too old to interest Gates. http://techrights.org/2022/08/23/jim-admires-bill/
21:54 TR Bot; Sheela Microsoft (Zemlin) Does Not Like Linux and Jim Zemlin Idolises Bill Gates | Techrights
21:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]: What? Do you mean like the 3d DOM inspector that Mozilla introduced in 2011 just to rip out again a few years later because "Quantum DOM" was incompatible?
21:55 TR News; ICBM Red Hat targeting clowns. After all the brain drain (many quit Red hat in droves) they have little left but buzzwords and brands (like OpenShit) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/role-based-access-control-red-hat-hybrid-cloud-console
21:55 TR Bot; Role-based access control for Red Hat Hybrid Cloud Console
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; reminds me of netscape
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; why not have a whole IDE inside firefox?
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; they say RSS is too much
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; and you should have to dfownload extensions
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; but all that DOm inspection... BUIOLT IN
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; like the average user will ever need that
21:56 DaemonFC; The Web Inspector is actually a fair bit of code in Webkit.
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; yes
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's massive
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's bloiat
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; yuou can see by using it
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; it's no small feature
21:56 DaemonFC; I doubt anyone using Webkit is checking anything other than that their site isn't terribly broken in it.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; but Mozilla Bakersoft is removing a lot of very simple stuff
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; that average users would USE
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; they even SPY on firefox users
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; to klater justify those awful decisions
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; and remove code that's very samlal
21:57 DaemonFC; In Webkit, the DOM inspector also has to analyze network stack activity and display it to the user.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; and pases no potnent securit risks
21:57 DaemonFC; Including what Content Blockers are up to.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; like they removed gopher support
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; eich opposed this obviously
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; but latte hipsters won
21:58 DaemonFC; Content Blockers REQUIRE JavaScript because the format is JSON compiled to Bytecode.
21:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's like the objective was all along just to ruin sifreof'x prospects
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; same for thunderbird
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; a TON of functionality REMOVED
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; thunderbird was was most used application fore like a decade
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; now it's no longer enjoyable to use
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; it's almost as wqorthless as webmail
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; and they push for "app" now
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; Android etc.
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; what next? gmail integration
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; thunderbird also had some irc support, among other things
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; built in
22:00 DaemonFC; Well, you get into a sort of feedback loop where every stupid design decision is very easy to justify because all the code to enable other stupid design choices is there already.
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22:01 DaemonFC; Then if you want to back any of it out later, you have a dependency tree.
22:01 DaemonFC; This is the mess Microsoft got themselves in with Windows and why it's scandalously large now.
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; not sure large is the word
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; large can be OK
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; depending on the structure
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22:02 schestowitz[TR]; hi, techrights_guest|18
22:02 techuser; hi
22:02 DaemonFC; Five terminals, three Web browsers (including two that the user isn't permitted to launch, except there's bugs in Windows that allow it to happen sometimes)....
22:03 DaemonFC; Several distinct versions of the .NET framework.
22:03 DaemonFC; Library version proliferation instead of layering, which would make more sense.
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22:04 DaemonFC; It turns out that, internally, the MSVCR.DLL has all of the latest features in it, but unless you use the WDK to compile your application, there's no way to get at them, so you "library bundle" and cause a security disaster that's impossible for Microsoft to service in a centralized fashion.
22:05 TR News; David REVOY: I sign letters that call RMS stuff... after RMS called Epstein a "serial rapist". I also draw sexy little girls. https://www.davidrevoy.com/article927/sara-the-opengameart-mascot
22:05 TR Bot; Sara, the OpenGameArt mascot - David Revoy
22:05 DaemonFC; SeaMonkey 2.57 is basically vaporware.
22:05 DaemonFC; Rebasing on Gecko 60+ will be very difficult.
22:05 DaemonFC; The Suite code isn't in a good state for e10s or any of the rest of "Quantum".
22:06 DaemonFC; Some of the Suite is still based on Firefox 1.5 or 2.
22:06 TR News; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2022 State of HEY HI in the Enterprise https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/09/the-2022-state-of-ai-in-the-enterprise.html Source: IBM Old Timer | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/09/the-2022-state-of-ai-in-the-enterprise.html
22:06 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The 2022 State of AI in the Enterprise
22:15 TR News; Microsoft Will Soon be Unlisted in Netcrafts Web Survey (Due to Minuscule, Negligible Market Share) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/22/netcraft-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/22/netcraft-microsoft/
22:15 TR Bot; Microsoft Will Soon be Unlisted in Netcrafts Web Survey (Due to Minuscule, Negligible Market Share) | Techrights
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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22:20 TR News; (NEW): What Is Crystal Linux? Everything You Need to Know http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/What_Is_Crystal_Linux_Everything_You_Need_to_Know.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/What_Is_Crystal_Linux_Everything_You_Need_to_Know.gmi
↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/What_Is_Crystal_Linux_Everything_You_Need_to_Know.gmi
22:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines What Is Crystal Linux? Everything You Need to Know
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22:22 starstreak; [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r
22:22 starstreak; 5.19.10-arch1-1
22:22 starstreak; i use arch btw
22:23 starstreak; linucks
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; uname -btw
22:29 TR News; Slackware: Chromium 105.0.5195.125 packages available (also ungoogled) | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/chromium-105-0-5195-125-packages-available-also-ungoogled/ Source: Eric Hameleers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//alien.slackbook.org/blog/chromium-105-0-5195-125-packages-available-also-ungoogled/
22:29 TR Bot; Chromium 105.0.5195.125 packages available (also ungoogled) | Alien Pastures
22:30 TR News; Alarmist garbage from The Register; to exploit this you need to feed it rogue files https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/22/python_vulnerability_tarfile/
22:30 TR Bot; 15-year-old Python flaw found in 'over 350,000' projects The Register
22:31 TR News; Nvidia Racer RTX: Imagine what a Next-Gen Version of Re-Volt Would Look Like, And More on DLSS3 - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/nvidia-racer-rtx-imagine-what-a-next-gen-version-of-re-volt-would-look-like-and-more-on-dlss3/ Source: Boiling Steam
22:31 TR Bot; Nvidia Racer RTX: Imagine what a Next-Gen Version of Re-Volt Would Look Like, And More on DLSS3 - Boiling Steam
22:34 TR News; The Kumatologist: Vaughan Cornishs Wave Studies (191014) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/cornish-waves/ Source: Public Domain Review | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicdomainreview.org/collection/cornish-waves/
22:34 TR Bot; The Kumatologist: Vaughan Cornishs Wave Studies (191014) The Public Domain Review
22:37 DaemonFC; https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/308197262_650843529837785_5004510492404043332_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=X3Wghsfo5EQAX8jCqXW&tn=UndYO5-j7WtqJGpX&_nc_ht=scontent-nrt1-1.xx&oh=00_AT_DZiO5iHOeo3E8PLcMzS2DC4lqM-QrV9dngYl3PaCRqg&oe=63312698
22:38 DaemonFC; starstreak5.19.10-arch1-1
22:39 DaemonFC; That's the kernel in Fedora-testing right now.
22:39 DaemonFC; 5.19.10
22:39 DaemonFC; It just follows the latest upstream kernels.
22:39 starstreak; yeah fedora is pretty good at keeping up to date
22:39 TR News; "I didn't have any expectations against these Vizio TVs, as a matter of fact I have been using other Vizio TVs so far simply because the price and the sizes we needed at the given moments." gemini://warp.geminispace.club/~freezr/gemlog/2022-09-22-il-solito-brutto-vizio.gmi
22:39 starstreak; i think XRevan86 probably has 5.19.10 already, opensuse has been super fast
22:40 XRevan86; I can get it, but I'd need to reboot.
22:40 starstreak; i rebooted already :)
22:40 TR News; So when did POP and IMAP become a legacy protocol? :"But on another level, this is concerning. Even though Microsoft announced this three years ago, it comes across as locking email down into a more centalized, proprietary system. I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail?" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/09/22.1
22:41 starstreak; "I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail?" <- it has already done so
22:42 starstreak; Google recently locked out imap without xauth2 or an app specific password
22:42 TR News; (NEW): Mesa 22.2 Graphics Stack Brings Improvements for Halo Infinite, Minecraft, and Other Games http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Mesa_22_2_Graphics_Stack_Brings_Improvements_for_Halo_Infinite.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Mesa_22_2_Graphics_Stack_Brings_Improvements_for_Halo_Infinite.gmi
22:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mesa 22.2 Graphics Stack Brings Improvements for Halo Infinite, Minecraft, and Other Games
22:42 TR News; (NEW): weston 11.0.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/weston_11_0_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/weston_11_0_0.gmi
22:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines weston 11.0.0
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22:44 starstreak; I switched from Outlook.com to Tutanota and Protonmail
22:44 TR News; Zoho https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/22/cisa-has-added-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog
22:44 TR Bot; CISA Has Added One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
22:44 starstreak; I have a google mail account I use for job search only
22:45 starstreak; i tried getting google mail to work in alpine (tui email) but xauth2 wanted authorization every time i started the client
22:45 TR News; Clown computing: there's a new rule here, the priority of all services is not the spy agencies, such as the NSA. Social control agenda.
22:46 TR News; NSA promotes back doors, not security. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/22/cisa-and-nsa-publish-joint-cybersecurity-advisory-control-system
22:46 TR Bot; CISA and NSA Publish Joint Cybersecurity Advisory on Control System Defense | CISA
22:46 MinceR; https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdRyU7eXEAEqVOq?format=jpg&name=orig
22:48 TR News; 4 new posts from CISA: https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Security_Leftovers.shtml
22:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; <starstreak> I switched from Outlook.com to Tutanota and Protonmail
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; some people try to paint those as "crime"
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; <starstreak> i tried getting google mail to work in alpine (tui email) but xauth2 wanted authorization every time i started the client
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; google mail is not email
22:49 schestowitz[TR]; gmail is not email
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; it's like calling github "git"
22:50 schestowitz[TR]; github is an attack on commodity git
22:51 TR News; MICROSOFT WINDOWS TCO: "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow a local user with limited privileges to modify the service binary path and start malicious commands with SYSTEM privileges." Notice how they dodge naming Microsoft. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-265-01
22:51 TR Bot; Measuresoft ScadaPro Server | CISA
22:51 starstreak; tutanota and protonmail are crime?
22:51 TR News; "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability may enable the reading of arbitrary files, cause a denial-of-service condition, and allow execution of a malicious binary." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-212-02
22:51 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric Factory Automation Engineering Software (Update D) | CISA
22:52 TR News; "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could be used to hijack TCP sessions and allow remote command execution." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-245-01
22:52 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric Multiple Products (Update E) | CISA
22:53 TR News; YaST Development Report - Chapter 9 of 2022 https://yast.opensuse.org/blog/2022-09-22/yast-report-2022-9
22:53 TR Bot; YaST Development Report - Chapter 9 of 2022 | YaST
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 138.96
23:08 TR News; Unless you allow dodgy people to pass you files and then process these files, without login or input being sanitised, this does not affect you and does not impact many project https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/unpatched-python-library-affects-300k-projects/
23:08 TR Bot; Python Library Affects More Than 300,000 Open Source Projects | eSecurityPlanet
23:09 TR News; Corporate and tech media: attention-seeking whores that spread misinformation to sell ads or attract corporate funding (for the bias, lies, PR)
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23:12 TR News; Lionel Landwerlin https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/18637
23:12 TR Bot; anv: reduce cpu overhead for draw command recording (!18637) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
23:12 TR News; You mean due to lies and FUD? https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/09/20/open-source-security-concerns/
23:12 TR Bot; Open-source software usage slowing down for fear of vulnerabilities, exposures, or risks - Help Net Security
23:17 TR News; Dodgy compressed files have LONG been a problem. Like executables, you should be selective which ones you retrieve and process.
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:23 TR News; (NEW): GNU Parallel 20220922 ('Elizabeth') released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNU_Parallel_20220922_Elizabeth_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/GNU_Parallel_20220922_Elizabeth_released.gmi
23:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Parallel 20220922 ('Elizabeth') released
23:23 TR News; (NEW): Pandemic of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), Fear-mongering http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Pandemic_of_FUD_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_Fear_mongering.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Pandemic_of_FUD_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_Fear_mongering.gmi
23:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Pandemic of FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt), Fear-mongering
23:27 TR News; Nazi Punks Fuck Off gemini://subphase.xyz/users/flow/gemlog/32-nuance.gmi Gemini community, some of it at least, discovers not everyone is a leftist in Geminispace
23:29 TR News; Without FreeDesktop There Is No Linux Desktop! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=a0CIhlzqYi8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/a0CIhlzqYi8
23:30 TR Bot; Without FreeDesktop There Is No Linux Desktop! - Invidious
23:33 MinceR; wrong
23:33 MinceR; with "free"desktop, there will be no "Linux" desktop
23:36 starstreak; linucks
23:39 schestowitz[TR]; he's not best informed
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23:39 schestowitz[TR]; he gets his 'facts' from microsoftt reddit
23:42 TR News; (NEW): Graphics: FreeDesktop, Nvidia, and Vulkan http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Graphics_FreeDesktop_Nvidia_and_Vulkan.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/Graphics_FreeDesktop_Nvidia_and_Vulkan.gmi
23:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Graphics: FreeDesktop, Nvidia, and Vulkan
23:42 TR News; (NEW): LibreOffice Fund-raising and Tutorials http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/LibreOffice_Fund_raising_and_Tutorials.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/LibreOffice_Fund_raising_and_Tutorials.gmi
23:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreOffice Fund-raising and Tutorials
23:44 TR News; Avoid Mozilla Firefox. It seems to have started (maybe not started) spamming new tabs with ads. Not just that VPN spam. Firefox is malware or adware.
23:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR]he gets his 'facts' from microsoftt reddit
23:46 TR News; CentOS collapses under ICBM. "Tru Huynh has decided to step down from the Board of Directors. We thank him for his many years of hard work on the Board and across the entire CentOS project." Like many others. https://blog.centos.org/2022/09/centos-community-newsletter-september-2022/
23:46 TR Bot; Community Newsletter, September 2022 Blog.CentOS.org
23:47 DaemonFC; You'll come for the Twink porn and stay for /r/mildlyinteresting. -Reddit
23:47 TR News; Adrian Bridgwater still stenographer pretending to be journalist https://www.techrepublic.com/article/red-hat-edge-complexity/ days ago: http://techrights.org/2022/09/17/cheapening-linux-brand-by-hijacking-it/
23:47 TR Bot; Hat on Edge Complexity | TechRepublic
23:48 TR Bot; Linux Foundation: We Spend Money Buying the Media, Authoring Self-Serving PR by People Who Reject Linux | Techrights
23:48 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they censor discussions about high-profile pdephiles
23:49 TR News; ICBM wants to get inside your car, not just Hitler's death camps https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-open-source-can-jumpstart-next-wave-software-defined-vehicles
23:49 TR Bot; How open source can jumpstart the next wave of software-defined vehicles
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23:50 TR News; Rebranding WHAT YOU KILL. ICBM: "The CentOS Brand v2 is the new visual identity of the CentOS Project. We encorage you to use it abundantly. It was recently approved, and is where we will be transitioning to." ttps://blog.centos.org/2022/09/centos-community-newsletter-september-2022/
23:53 TR News; Mindless puff piece, not journalism https://www.crn.com/news/channel-programs/dell-redhat-team-up-lifts-barriers-to-entry-for-kubernetes-environments
23:53 TR Bot; Hat Team Lifts Barriers To Entry For Kubernetes Environments | CRN
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