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04:51 schestowitz-TR; after the reboot TR IPFS machine does not have limits set right
04:51 schestowitz-TR; god knows what we did to make the cron job run correwctly
04:51 schestowitz-TR; do you remember?
04:51 schestowitz-TR; this means today's hashes are not yet available
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06:48 Techrights-sec; I am not familiar with the IPFS set up in any way. :/
06:57 schestowitz-TR; still working to make ipfs work again
06:57 schestowitz-TR; I can run it manually again
06:57 schestowitz-TR; and then you can pick the output file
06:57 schestowitz-TR; running manually
06:57 schestowitz-TR; ok, see if the output file is OK now
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07:03 Techrights-sec; Ok
07:03 Techrights-sec; checking
07:05 Techrights-sec; Seems ok
07:06 schestowitz-TR; thanks, after you get the file I will return to trying to get the cron job running
07:06 schestowitz-TR; I didn't take notes of how it had been solved last time
07:06 schestowitz-TR; it's about the cron being able to set ulimit for ENV
07:06 schestowitz-TR; ok, I will carry on trying
07:06 schestowitz-TR; and taking notes this time
07:06 schestowitz-TR; as we lose that after a reboot
07:20 schestowitz-TR; we've moved a lot of the irc stuff to techpol so that politics is in another channel
07:20 schestowitz-TR; so far, so good, i think
07:20 schestowitz-TR; I also did implement some bot changes to that effect
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09:58 Techrights-sec; iirc hv is still in need of a reboot
10:32 schestowitz-TR; this is truly time-consuming (almost all morning so far)
10:32 schestowitz-TR; but I learn from trial and error how ulimit works in alpine
10:32 Techrights-sec; tuning is needed so that it can resume properly automatically on its own after
10:32 Techrights-sec; any reboot, so this is a good chance to fix and annotate
10:32 schestowitz-TR; exactly
10:36 schestowitz-TR; the short story is,
10:36 schestowitz-TR; there is a sort of hierarchy of limits
10:36 schestowitz-TR; but the error message don't help you
10:36 schestowitz-TR; root
10:36 schestowitz-TR; userspace
10:36 schestowitz-TR; script
10:36 schestowitz-TR; cron
10:50 Techrights-sec; cron will work across reboots, but must be added by hand after a new installation
10:58 Techrights-sec; There is now an open-rc service for the primitive IDS via tmux.
10:58 Techrights-sec; So that should come back up when the system restarts.
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10:58 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I'm still a little frustrated by ulimit
10:58 schestowitz-TR; but am feeling close now
10:59 schestowitz-TR; last time I did not take noted of what I had done
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11:08 Techrights-sec; I cannot recall much of anything regarding ulimit other than that something
11:08 Techrights-sec; was looked up. :/
11:08 Techrights-sec; Busybox NTPd now enabled. The clock should get back in sync soon.
12:31 schestowitz-TR; I got stuck
12:31 schestowitz-TR; could use your help
12:31 schestowitz-TR; no matter what I try, in scripts or in cron I cannot set Sn and Hn in ulimit to anything higher than 8K
12:31 schestowitz-TR; the script from cron still writes to /tmp/foo
12:31 schestowitz-TR; I worked on this on and off since around 5am
12:31 schestowitz-TR; so I feel insanely unproductive
12:32 Techrights-sec; checking
12:32 Techrights-sec; Do you have notes from security.limits.conf ?
12:32 Techrights-sec; A package is required for that, IIRC it is installed.
12:32 Techrights-sec; IIRC those, too, require a reboot to take effect. Thereafter limits.conf
12:32 Techrights-sec; can be used.
12:33 schestowitz-TR; I reinstalled the 3 packages you had added before
12:33 schestowitz-TR; not sure if that altered anything major
12:33 schestowitz-TR; update-index.sh near the top shows many things that were attempted
12:34 schestowitz-TR; on home/xxx/
12:34 schestowitz-TR; it's called from crontab
12:34 Techrights-sec; Which machine / path for update-index.sh ?
12:44 Techrights-sec; IIRC it was the cron part which had the problem with ulimit
12:46 schestowitz-TR; yes, I cannot set ulimit -Sn and -Hn to anything higher than 4096
12:46 schestowitz-TR; no matter what I try
12:46 schestowitz-TR; so maybe this limitation is hard-coded somewhere
12:59 Techrights-sec; $ ulimit -a | grep files
12:59 Techrights-sec; open files (-n) 16384
12:59 Techrights-sec; So it must be something with cron
12:59 Techrights-sec; Can you try the cron again now?
13:06 schestowitz-TR; thanks, will try now
13:06 schestowitz-TR; haha!!!
13:06 schestowitz-TR; aha
13:06 schestowitz-TR; rather
13:06 schestowitz-TR; seems to have worked
13:06 schestowitz-TR; let's see if it completes the whole job from the cron job :-)
13:19 schestowitz-TR; made by day, so far..
13:19 schestowitz-TR; the page shows up ok now
13:19 schestowitz-TR; i'll clean up a few things and get rest
13:19 schestowitz-TR; thanks for solving it so quickly
13:22 Techrights-sec; (ulimit in /etc/init.d/crond as a possible kludge)
13:22 Techrights-sec; :)
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15:27 Techrights-sec; np
15:27 Techrights-sec; Can we schedule a reboot of hv soon, in part to verify the automation?
15:28 schestowitz-TR; one issue her, the irc network
15:28 Techrights-sec; ack
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16:54 Techrights-sec; Can TR or TM receive donations via GNU Taler yet?
16:54 Techrights-sec; https://taler.net/en/features.html
16:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-taler.net | GNU Taler
16:57 schestowitz-TR; I have not thought about this for a whole
16:57 schestowitz-TR; a) i think taler is connected to gnunet but not sure
16:57 schestowitz-TR; gnunet is not yet condieered stable
16:57 schestowitz-TR; b) our scarcity atm is time rather than funds
16:57 schestowitz-TR; c) we had a hailirious incident yesterday and my colleagues were lying to clients
16:57 schestowitz-TR; which I was very unhappy about
16:57 schestowitz-TR; I don't wish to publicly share the details, but I don't facepalm anymore
16:57 schestowitz-TR; that's how bad the company became
16:57 schestowitz-TR; re (b) thanks for helping, I was getting rather miserable pouring out a TON of time in vain
16:57 schestowitz-TR; (the ulimit issue/enigma)
16:57 schestowitz-TR; I am racing through my ress eeds now to make time for articles/videos
17:30 schestowitz-TR; ---
17:30 schestowitz-TR; there are still some junk 'articles' (parrots) about rust and linux
17:30 schestowitz-TR; some cite sjvn, an lf (via zdnet) operative
17:31 schestowitz-TR; it's too late to turn this around, unless someone forked the kernel -- an infeasible task
17:31 schestowitz-TR; they kepyt saying we need to attract more newbs to kernel dev
17:31 schestowitz-TR; I don't see how adding a SECND language achieves this
17:59 Techrights-sec; np
17:59 Techrights-sec; Adding a second language ossifies the project. Instead of one group of
17:59 Techrights-sec; developers of varying skills and experience, you end up with at least four:
17:59 Techrights-sec; Those good in C but not Rust, those good in Rust but not C, those good in C
17:59 Techrights-sec; and familiar with Rust, those good in Rust and familiar with C. You generally
17:59 Techrights-sec; have to be good at a language to spot subtle mistakes in design or implementation so few even have the opportunity for gaining a good overview. Furthermore
17:59 Techrights-sec; huge questions surround Rust maintenance, govenernance, and control.
17:59 Techrights-sec; LT /could/ fork the kernel himself but I think they have his balls in a vice and
17:59 Techrights-sec; so he won't. He still controls the trademark, too. He could take that with
17:59 Techrights-sec; and use it for the fork. There is enough corporate control over what would
17:59 Techrights-sec; be the old kernel, that it would live on in more or less its current form
17:59 Techrights-sec; long enough for a smooth transition.
17:59 Techrights-sec; Or so I would guess.
18:00 schestowitz-TR; maybe linus thought about this already, but not aloud
18:00 schestowitz-TR; maybe you should email him these thoughts
18:01 Techrights-sec; I dont know him and vice versa. Without being able to offer any technical work
18:01 Techrights-sec; I think there would be very little point him getting a mail from someone he
18:01 Techrights-sec; does not know.
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18:29 schestowitz-TR; i wonder the professionalk background of canonical/ubuntu product managers3~
18:29 schestowitz-TR; at one point thy were hiring/advertising with wsl crap
18:29 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:29 schestowitz-TR; maybe oliver came from micosoft
18:29 schestowitz-TR; i did not check
18:29 schestowitz-TR; screenshot just added
18:30 schestowitz-TR; the name of the workere is generic
18:30 schestowitz-TR; I think I looked him up in the past
18:30 schestowitz-TR; there is no linmk to a unique id/username
18:30 Techrights-sec; reading
18:30 Techrights-sec; It's likely, but microsofters tend to try to cover their tracks a little
18:30 Techrights-sec; these days.
18:30 Techrights-sec; He's connected with a lot of M$ WSL training and articles/
18:32 schestowitz-TR; can you give some URLs?
18:32 schestowitz-TR; that can help further
18:32 schestowitz-TR; I still work on the text a bit
18:32 schestowitz-TR; to cover more points, concisely
18:32 Techrights-sec; https://nitter.it/ubuntu/status/1493918498992668677
18:32 Techrights-sec; https://ubuntu.com/blog/author/local-optimum
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18:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Oliver Smith | Ubuntu
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