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00:00 DaemonFC; The United States is a lot of things, but we're not great at fascism obviously.
00:00 DaemonFC; There's nothing "grand" about the United States when you get here.
00:01 DaemonFC; It's filthy, it's polluted. The cities are a complete dump that smell bad where you'll get shot for your wallet.
00:01 DaemonFC; The public transit makes unpleasant noises day and night, if there even is any.
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; probably just ddin't upload any, it was dark http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Berlin-in-Winter
00:01 TR Bot; Berlin in Winter
00:01 DaemonFC; I mean, the US isn't as bad as like, India, but it's not great by first world standards.
00:02 DaemonFC; In cities in India, it seems like choking to death on the smog is probably the safest thing there.
00:02 DaemonFC; Then if you make it across the street without being ran over, someone will mug you.
00:02 schestowitz[TR]; http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Berlin-in-Winter/Berlin-Zoo/Penguins/20181217_133252
00:02 TR Bot; 20181217 133252
00:02 DaemonFC; And that'll be your first ten minutes there.
00:03 DaemonFC; https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-08-16/walmart-wmt-2q-earnings-the-economy-might-just-be-okay#xj4y7vzkg
00:03 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
00:03 DaemonFC; What the hell is this crap?
00:04 DaemonFC; "Walmart Says Were Gonna Be Okay"
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2019/06/04/China-issues-US-travel-warning-citing-crime-state-media
00:04 TR Bot; China issues US travel warning, citing crime | Al Arabiya English
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that's "Mike" Bloomberg
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; everything is OK
00:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], China has crime.
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; Mike will look after you
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; celebrate Wall Strreet
00:04 DaemonFC; Like all the knifing attacks that nobody can post about, or else.
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.voanews.com/a/china-issues-warning-for-citizens-traveling-to-us/4464687.html
00:04 TR Bot; China Issues US Travel Warning as Trade Tensions Escalate
00:05 DaemonFC; The Chinese government controls information about the crime.
00:05 DaemonFC; Which solves everything as far as they car.
00:05 DaemonFC; *care
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; https://globalnews.ca/news/4309897/china-us-travel-security-advisory/
00:05 TR Bot; warns citizens against U.S. travel citing gun violence, expensive medical costs - National | Globalnews.ca
00:05 DaemonFC; Yeah, it's all politics.
00:05 DaemonFC; You go to China, there's horrible polution.
00:05 DaemonFC; They fake the numbers on that too.
00:05 DaemonFC; There's whores. There's illegal gambling. There's drugs.
00:05 DaemonFC; You can't get rid of things like this.
00:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I was reading more about Monkeypox and I'm even less concerned now than I was.
00:06 DaemonFC; Apparently, it's "subsiding". Maybe gay men are deleting Grindr and waiting for the problem to burn out.
00:06 DaemonFC; Like I said they should.
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; money-pox
00:07 DaemonFC; Eventually, everyone who won't stop will give it to each other.
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; throwing untested shit at people
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; starting with gays
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; woo, what a privilege
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; untested shit... no clinical trials that are extensive to pass muster
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; "test it on those fags"
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; mendele biden
00:07 DaemonFC; The Health Department wanted us to come in for it. Mandy has an appointment there for something else.
00:07 DaemonFC; I told him "DO NOT LET THEM GIVE YOU THAT!".
00:08 DaemonFC; They don't let me come back there with him because they like to do things anyway and not have any witnesses.
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; USA:
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; gays get non-lethal disease: PANIC
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; 31+ TRILLION IN DEBT: it's OK, Mike Bloomberg says
00:08 schestowitz[TR]; keep shoppin', folks
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; keep Wall Street happy
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; happy wife, happy lie
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; happy wall street, MORE JOBS~1~1
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: maybe one day there will be no job openings
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; no job openings, no jobs
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; no openings, no applications
00:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The only cases I can find that end up SEVERE with the Monkeypox are like people like the German guy.
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; no applications, no unemployment
00:10 DaemonFC; Who also had syphilis and HIV.
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; problem solved
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; full employment at long last
00:10 schestowitz[TR]; everyone happy
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; what "German guy"?
00:11 schestowitz[TR]; mendele?
00:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Panic about the gay men with the non-fatal disease! Not the $31 trillion debt, the unfunded Social Security programs, the 11% inflation, the 20% rent hikes, the layoffs, the shortages, the world war that may happen soon.
00:11 DaemonFC; The one that had his nose rot off.
00:11 DaemonFC; I think that the people who get one of those expensive sex dolls are onto something (other than the doll).
00:12 DaemonFC; They're an up front cost with marginal ongoing expense/concern.
00:12 DaemonFC; No arguments, no diseases.
00:13 DaemonFC; It can simulate moaning and that's about it. What else do you need? Throwing plates at you? Popping out unexpected children? Taking out 5 credit cards in your name you don't know about and causing you to almost get foreclosed on?
00:13 TR News; Flutter vs Kotlin For Android Development https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/flutter-vs-kotlin-for-android-development/
00:13 TR Bot; Flutter vs Kotlin - For Android Development - GeeksforGeeks
00:15 DaemonFC; https://www.themanual.com/food-and-drink/how-to-drink-whiskey/
00:15 TR Bot; A Beginner's Guide on How to Drink Whiskey | The Manual
00:15 DaemonFC; I usually don't put ice in my drinks. It waters them down.
00:16 DaemonFC; YOu can just put the bottle itself into the freezer. It's got enough alcohol that it's not going to freeze.
00:16 TR News; "(For the trolls out there, you dont need to buy a modern Walkman if you think its a waste of money. Its pretty cool that you have the agency to make that decision, when you think about it)!" https://rubenerd.com/the-quest-for-high-resolution-album-art/
00:16 TR Bot; The quest for high-resolution album art
00:17 DaemonFC; Vodka and rum doesn't seem to be any worse that way.
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; they both mess with the liver
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; there are better narcotics
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; none that I tried
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; we finished our rum and vodka this past summer
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; to finish off all the ramining alcohol in the house
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; now there is zero
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; *remaining
00:19 DaemonFC; I'm having a Guinness right now actually.
00:19 schestowitz[TR]; eww
00:19 DaemonFC; They practically pay you to take booze right now.
00:19 DaemonFC; Never seen rebates like this.
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> eww
00:20 DaemonFC; An Extra Stout.
00:20 DaemonFC; I'm not a monster.
00:20 TR News; I'm Starting a Journal gemini://themby.smol.pub/2022-08-21
00:21 TR News; "I've been plotting out what measures I must make to hide my slobbish tendencies. my actions reminded me of Stradlater from Catcher In The Rye, hiding the fact he's a total slob and only Holden knowing the wiser." gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/naming-my-schemes
00:22 TR News; Construccin de mi propia "distro" GNU/Linux con OpenBox+Tint2+Conky gemini://sl1200.dystopic.world/art/distroopenbox.gmi
00:22 TR News; Intergalactic Singles Night Devlog gemini://protodrew.smol.pub/igsn_devlog
00:23 TR News; Operation Friendly Skies gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/operation-friendly-skies
00:23 TR News; There is another GNU scheme gemini://gems.geminet.org/avr/2022-08-21-there-is-another-gnu-scheme.gmi
00:24 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/21/business/chipotle-water-cup-lemonade-candle-trnd/index.html
00:24 TR Bot; water cup candle pokes fun at lemonade thieves | CNN Business
00:24 DaemonFC; What the fuck is this crap?
00:24 DaemonFC; "Chipotle superfans can purchase a candle for $28 on the company's merchandise website while supplies last."
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; spam
00:24 DaemonFC; Buy a $28 Chipotle-branded candle! It comes with a "free" lemonade.
00:24 schestowitz[TR]; corporatespam
00:25 DaemonFC; Chipotle Superfans!
00:25 DaemonFC; LOL
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; aka cnn
00:25 DaemonFC; Expensive Taco Bell
00:25 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mandy and I eat at Taco Bell pretty often.
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; superfan... apple... dining place
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; fans of corporations
00:25 DaemonFC; You can go in there and get a whole meal for like $5 WITH a drink.
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; corporationsd are people
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; can you fall in lovew with thjem
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; can you immpregrnate applke?
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; can apple seek abortiuon?
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; too many typos, time for bed now
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: the drinks cost cents
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; it's just water with some chemicals
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; you can get them at aldi for a couple dozen cents
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; gn
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; https://lkml.org/lkml/last100/
00:27 TR Bot; LKML: Headers for 100 newest messages
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; linus not relasing yet
00:27 DaemonFC; Yeah.
00:27 DaemonFC; I have a sick addiction to Taco Bell, honestly.
00:28 DaemonFC; I've gone on bouts where almost everything I ate for a week was Taco Bell.
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00:30 starstreak; DaemonFC, my favourite is the cheesy gordita crunch and fries supreme
00:31 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCwKaNIdsTQ
00:31 TR Bot; https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=WCwKaNIdsTQ
00:31 TR Bot; inv.riverside.rocks | Beavis and Butthead - Spanish Class - Invidious
00:32 starstreak; i loved the new beavis and butthead: do the universe movie
00:32 starstreak; watched it 3 times now
00:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], CNN just posted another one about QR code menus and how customers hate them.
00:40 DaemonFC; "So why are they still here?"
00:40 DaemonFC; I can answer that.
00:40 DaemonFC; Corporations like them for a lot of reasons, some of which have to do with the hyperinflation.
00:41 DaemonFC; It costs money to print new menus. If you do what some restaurants do and try to write in new prices, it looks tacky and makes it more obvious, which leads to resentment from the customers.
00:42 DaemonFC; Hyperinflation under Joe Biden is so bad that price revisions come every few weeks now, and so a minor nuisance of printing new menus every year means that you have to cycle in new menus much more often.
00:42 DaemonFC; So it's mostly hiding what everyone already knows is going on and cutting costs.
00:44 DaemonFC; We went to a restaurant during COVID where they told me to take a picture of a QR code on a table and I said "Gee, that's dumb." and asked them to bring me a physical menu instead.
00:44 DaemonFC; Assumes everyone has a cell phone and it's going to load your menu so they can struggle to read it on a 5 inch screen.
00:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Corporations are assholes, my friend!
00:45 DaemonFC; <starstreak> DaemonFC, my favourite is the cheesy gordita crunch and fries supreme
00:45 DaemonFC; They got rid of my favorite.
00:45 DaemonFC; The grilled stuffed burrito.
00:46 DaemonFC; I still think someone ought to be allowed 10 minutes where the battery law doesn't apply to go after Morgan Spurlock.
00:46 heureka; i think the inflationary pressure was ignited a decade before Joe B. became president
00:47 DaemonFC; People are fatter than ever. His documentary about eating McDonalds for an entire month didn't help anything.
00:47 DaemonFC; All it did was cause them to get rid of super size fries.
00:47 heureka; since "financial crisis" central banks "bailed out" with "quantitative easing", low interests, excess gamble at stock exchange
00:47 heureka; there was excess cash flowing, supposed to stimulate economy
00:48 heureka; economers had been warning about this for more than a decade
00:48 DaemonFC; I liked the super size fries, honestly. Like, they were 150% larger than a Large but they only cost another 39 cents.
00:48 DaemonFC; So you could dump them on the plate and share them with someone.
00:48 DaemonFC; I think they realized people were doing this and they could sell two large fries and make more that way.
00:49 DaemonFC; <heureka> there was excess cash flowing, supposed to stimulate economy
00:49 DaemonFC; Well, that's how the Fed can raise rates so quickly.
00:49 DaemonFC; It's been willing to prop up the federal government's spending by buying federal bonds, no limit.
00:50 DaemonFC; So now all they have to do is let those bonds roll off the books and not buy more, and the feds have to go look for loans elsewhere again.
00:50 heureka; in Europe, the officially announced inflation of ~2% was nowhere near the _real_ inflation in the last decade
00:50 DaemonFC; Rates come back up because the Central Bank isn't gobbling them up.
00:50 DaemonFC; <heureka> in Europe, the officially announced inflation of ~2% was nowhere near the _real_ inflation in the last decade
00:50 heureka; for example, a single hamburger at mac donalds was sold for 1Euro ten years ago, now it's 1.50Euro
00:51 DaemonFC; Well, the design of the Fed is to never allow deflation to happen.
00:51 heureka; this is 4.5% annual inflation with compound interest, twice as much the inflation data officially announced by EU/ECB
00:51 DaemonFC; The government doesn't want deflation because of the idea that the economy will seize up.
00:51 DaemonFC; And as we all know, the economy is people trying to get rid of or invest money to avoid inflation.
00:52 heureka; as i said before, i was "blessed" with two "currency reforms" already (expropriations that was), since 1990
00:52 DaemonFC; I think the best thing to do with dental insurance in the US is to outlaw it.
00:52 heureka; and the recent price explosions is the THIRD expropriation...
00:52 DaemonFC; That would make the most sense in getting dental costs under control.
00:53 heureka; how should anyone plan long-term business with this type of government in germany?
00:53 DaemonFC; If you outlaw the insurance, employers could still give you a dental allowance on a flex-spend card.
00:53 DaemonFC; But there'd be no networks, no fake discounts to drive business back and forth.,
00:53 heureka; and in recent years, they boiled up with blame game, corona at fault, putin at fault, climate at fault... except excess spendings and mal-investments
00:53 DaemonFC; Dental works like medical in that you go in and ask what the prices are and not even the dentist will tell you.
00:54 DaemonFC; They say you can have a "cost estimate".
00:54 heureka; the austrian economic "theory" of "mal-investment" seems the most plausible
00:54 DaemonFC; The "cost estimate" means that they won't commit to anything. Horribly enough, the estimate is going to be more inaccurate for insured patients than non-insured.
00:54 DaemonFC; Because they don't know if your dental insurance will actually approve it or not.
00:55 DaemonFC; Insurance companies like to just say "That wasn't necessary!".
00:55 heureka; whenever i had income i always paid _all_ taxes and insurance fees, i didn't cheat a single coin
00:55 DaemonFC; It wasn't necessary to pull or fill a rotting tooth.
00:55 DaemonFC; It wasn't necessary to get something to replace those teeth (implants or partials or full dentures).
00:55 heureka; what make me angry with medical dental insurance, i already did pay insurance, and the fees in germany are rather high
00:56 DaemonFC; It's great isn't it? Nothing they claim they cover is guaranteed to be "medically necessary".
00:56 heureka; if dentists ask additional fees that's beyond limits
00:56 DaemonFC; So all the insurance does is this.
00:56 heureka; i don't accept this, as a matter of principle, not any additional coin
00:56 DaemonFC; "Pay me a lot of money and I'll decide if you get any of it back."
00:57 DaemonFC; I get by okay with no dental insurance.
00:57 heureka; besides, it was "social democrats" who introduced the "bonus" system with medical insurance
00:57 DaemonFC; They wanted to bill me $50 a month for dental insurance this year.
00:57 DaemonFC; I haven't had dental insurance since 2006.
00:58 DaemonFC; Since 2006, including cleanings, I have spent about $1,100 on dental care.
00:58 heureka; last time i contracted and paid private insurance, this summed up to ~800Euros/month healt insurance, after taxation
00:58 DaemonFC; And that's with two fillings along the way!
00:58 DaemonFC; I could have done the fillings cheaper at a dental college.
00:59 heureka; i mean, it's ok, if taxes and insurance fees are calculated correctly, and _real_ income
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 76.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.23
00:59 heureka; anyway, i'll not pay any additional coin anywhere for anyting if anytime i need medical care
01:00 DaemonFC; Let's assume in constant dollars that I paid $50 (2022) every month for 16 years. Let us also assume a $50 deductible and an 80% rate of payment for fillings. I would have spent $10,000 on insurance ($50 for 200 months).
01:00 DaemonFC; Then they would have turned around and covered my cleanings, which are $15 each twice a year, the x-rays, which I get at the school with the cleanings, and two cavities filled in 2007 less the $50 deductible
01:01 DaemonFC; So you pay $10,000 and get $900 in benefits, maybe.
01:01 DaemonFC; That's a pretty shit deal.
01:02 heureka; well, nowadays, this economy here doesn't at least bother anymore to pay anything for my work
01:02 DaemonFC; And it'll only pay those benefits if some adjuster at the insurance company thinks you needed that.
01:02 DaemonFC; Someone who has never seen you before and doesn't care if your teeth fall out.
01:04 DaemonFC; It's cheaper for me to just pay cash if something happens.
01:04 DaemonFC; Assuming I don't have awful teeth. Nobody in my dad's family does.
01:04 DaemonFC; None of his siblings do, he doesn't.
01:04 DaemonFC; They're the kind of people that can brush with baking soda and a 50 cent toothbrush and not go to the dentist and they're fine.
01:05 DaemonFC; My uncle Stan was 60 years old the first time he went to the dentist.
01:05 DaemonFC; He needed one filling and that was it. The dentist didn't even believe him that he'd never gone.
01:06 DaemonFC; They were so poor when my dad was growing up because Grandpa drank all the money he made at the General Motors factory, that the kids all had to eat...whatever they could find. They were lucky if they had enough food in the house to make bologna and cheese sandwiches. Grandpa had them out in the field stealing corn a lot.
01:07 DaemonFC; One time, my Grandma had to fry up some bait shrimp that Grandpa had in the fridge and feed it to the kids and then he came home drink and beat them all starting with her.
01:07 DaemonFC; She was a good woman, but she ended up with a very very bad man.
01:08 DaemonFC; The kids never had a toothbrush, so they ended up brushing their teeth with......a washcloth and baking soda.
01:08 DaemonFC; I shit you not.
01:08 DaemonFC; This house would have been so busted by child services if any of that was going on today.
01:10 DaemonFC; That's why my father got his first job at 13, repairing TVs as the TV shop after school. He did it so he could buy some food to eat.
01:10 DaemonFC; By the time he moved out, he had a car. It was a clunker that he had to pour a quart of oil in every day just to keep driving it.
01:11 DaemonFC; And the only reason he and my mom could afford rent was because they were renting an apartment from a senile old woman named Mrs. Shively who thought it was 20 years ago so she was only billing them $50 to rent the upstairs apartment.
01:11 DaemonFC; She locked them out of the apartment every day and they had to carry a copy of the lease and argue with her for about an hour to let them back in.
01:11 DaemonFC; I asked mom how they could stand it, and she said if they rented anywhere else in town the rent would have been three times as much or more.
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01:12 DaemonFC; People on /r/LateStageCapitalism think that nobody ever had it bad before.
01:13 DaemonFC; But listening to this, I mean, this sounds exactly like the type of shit I've had to live through to get by. (Not having any other options in housing because you can't afford them. Driving an old battle wagon that's leaking oil and half rust.).
01:13 DaemonFC; Life's been a hell of a lot worse at times for me than it is now. That's the only reason I can get through my day now.
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01:14 DaemonFC; Maybe the only difference here is that my parents got out of that type of living in their mid 30s and it's obvious I never will.
01:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I don't know any of the neighbors here and I don't want to.
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01:15 DaemonFC; If you keep to yourself you'll be okay.
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01:16 DaemonFC; That's exactly what I would say to a cop if they came here and said they were investigating something and had a few questions for me.
01:17 DaemonFC; "I don't think I've seen anything and if I did, I'm pretty sure I don't recall it. Have a wonderful evening."
01:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], This. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CszgE1C7_G8
01:19 TR Bot; it's a motel - Invidious
01:19 DaemonFC; I laughed so hard at that. I was watching it on TV while living in a motel.
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:37 heureka; anyway, for technical reasons some days ago i decided to replace busybox and test toybox
01:37 heureka; reading a little and found this: https://lwn.net/Articles/478361/
01:37 TR Bot; The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement [LWN.net]
01:38 heureka; GPL enforcement isn't an issue for me, since i am not publishing anything at all currently, and even if i wasn't concerned by copyleft
01:38 heureka; however, the position of Garret is noteworthy, since he argues with "fight against GPL enforcement"
01:39 heureka; what i don't understand concerning this: isn't it the _authors_ of the software themselves who decided about licensing terms and GPL enforcement?
01:40 heureka; how would it infringe GPL copyleft if _authors_ themselves decided to license their own work without copyleft?
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01:41 heureka; anyway, the reason i want to remove busybox is it's Kbuild/makefiles entangle against gcc specifics which complicated to compile busybox with an alternative compiler
01:42 heureka; both busybox and tcc are GPL, however it was difficult to compile/link busybox with tcc, hence i chose toybox to test with
01:42 DaemonFC; " They never resulted ina single line of code added to the busybox repository. They HAVE resulted in more than one company exiting Linux development entirely and switching to non-Linux operating systems for their embedded products, and they're a big part of the reason behind Android's "No GPL in userspace" policy. (Which is Google, not Sony.)"
01:42 DaemonFC; Yeah, which blew up on Google big time.
01:42 DaemonFC; And they ended up violating their no GPL in userspace policy anyway for most of their userspace.
01:42 DaemonFC; After AVOIDING the GPL got them into a huge lawsuit with Oracle.
01:43 DaemonFC; Apple purging GPL'd software from the Mac doesn't hurt us, only them.
01:43 DaemonFC; And their customers.
01:43 DaemonFC; Apple was never a big contributor to any of those components, they only used them.
01:44 heureka; i didn't follow all details, and don't know all of them; however, to my understanding in case of busybox/toybox Rob Landley is the _author_ of most parts of toybox and many parts of busybox
01:44 DaemonFC; It made Mac OS work better, and the penalty for Free Software of them using the components was that since people COULD use a Mac for more things thanks to the software Apple shipped, they did.
01:44 DaemonFC; Now that Apple cares more about avoiding GPL than shipping software that works, it hurts their users and maybe drives some away from the Mac.
01:44 DaemonFC; Nobody who has used "SMBX" likes it.
01:44 heureka; who then had infringed or violated any GPL copyleft? this is what i don't understand.
01:45 heureka; with either busybox and/or toybox it is the authors who decide about licensing/re-licensing their work
01:45 DaemonFC; In many cases there's a list of things to NEVER try to do with it or else your Mac will freeze up trying to access a remote share or something.
01:45 DaemonFC; I doubt the Busybox lawsuits really hurt or helped us, honestly.
01:45 DaemonFC; I think Landley is hugely self-important.
01:46 DaemonFC; The major issue here is that the license of Linux doesn't matter because it's not enforced.
01:46 heureka; well, i decided to test touybox recently, because of _technical_ reasons, not licensing (BSD vs GPL)
01:46 DaemonFC; It's not enforced because the people controlling it actually don't care if people violate it or not.
01:47 DaemonFC; If the lawsuit against Vizio isn't successful, it will just encourage yet more violations because it will set the precedent that the users are powerless to stop violators as well.
01:49 heureka; which violations? that's the question, because it is the _author_ who may wish to enforce GPL copyleft or none thereof, it's the decision of the author
01:49 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/21/explosive-device-in-jeep-of-daria-dugina-had-400-grams-of-tnt-in-it-news "Explosive device in jeep of Daria Dugina had 400 grams of TNT in it"
01:50 TR Bot; .
01:50 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/21/7364237/
01:50 TR Bot; Darya Dugina was killed by partisans from National Republican Army ? former Russian parliamentarian | Ukrainska Pravda
01:52 DaemonFC; German law has a different notion of copyright than US law does, it seems.
01:52 DaemonFC; Obviously, that's not a valid interpretation in a US courtroom.
01:52 DaemonFC; Vizio lost a very important motion already.
01:53 DaemonFC; They tried to have the case removed to federal court, which wouldn't have really considered contract law like the state courts of California would.
01:53 DaemonFC; So it's back in a California court room. Whichever is least favorable to Vizio is where I'd like the case to be heard.
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01:54 DaemonFC; California is a sufficiently large market that if it's established that the GPL is a contract with the user in California, violators will have a serious problem.
01:54 DaemonFC; It also gives leave to sue under the laws of 49 other states.
01:54 DaemonFC; Which is pretty cool.
01:55 DaemonFC; You could end up with most of the country recognizing the rights of the user to enforce the GPL if only a few large states do that, or if a number of smaller ones do.
01:55 DaemonFC; Vizio alone now could be facing 49 other major lawsuits over those television sets now in 49 separate jurisdictions.
01:56 DaemonFC; It would be easier to just figure out how they're going to comply and avoid this.
01:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I was disappointed with the BIPA settlement involving Lemonade.
01:57 DaemonFC; It turned out that the case was a bit weaker than it was against Facebook.
01:57 DaemonFC; It settled for less than $5 million.
01:57 DaemonFC; Most of the evidence against Lemonade was what a tweet that they made and then quickly deleted actually meant.
01:57 heureka; DaemonFC: it's not a notion of German law (to distinguish author's rights), if any it's common sense
01:58 DaemonFC; But the tweet did end up costing them $5 million I guess.
01:58 DaemonFC; Jorg Schilling had a very abusive and stupid set of ideas.
01:59 heureka; i have no clue at all, how FSF/SFLC whoever could sue anyone over busybox, if FSF/SFCL lawyers were not hired by the _authors_/copyright-holders
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01:59 DaemonFC; https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items#cdrtools
01:59 TR Bot; Forbidden items - Fedora Project Wiki
01:59 DaemonFC; cdrtools
01:59 DaemonFC; At one point in time cdrtools was entirely licensed under the terms of the GPL (and included in Red Hat Linux, the precursor to Fedora), but later, most of the codebase was relicensed to CDDL (but notably, not all of it), resulting in a codebase which is an incompatible mix of the GPL and the CDDL. The cdrtools upstream is aware of these concerns, but holds a set of unorthodox opinions on licensing which are not shared by the FSF or Red Hat
01:59 DaemonFC; Legal, so it is unlikely that this situation will ever be resolved in a fashion that would result in cdrtools being acceptable for Fedora. For more details, see:
01:59 DaemonFC; https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-July/msg00000.html
01:59 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-legal-list/2009-July/msg00000.html )
01:59 DaemonFC; Fedora Suggests: Use cdrkit (fork of cdrtools before the licensing issues) instead.
02:00 DaemonFC; Schilling was German and maintained that they had some sort of rights under German law to prevent forks they didn't like of software they previously licensed entirely under the GPL.
02:00 DaemonFC; I don't know what that was about, but it sounds ridiculous.
02:01 DaemonFC; You can't retroactively change the rights of something you licensed a certain way and distributed to people.
02:01 DaemonFC; And then go "Hey, I'm an author of that in Germany and I have the right of take backsies under a law that doesn't apply to you!".
02:02 DaemonFC; If that argument is true, then the only way to be safe from the laws of Germany would be to permanently exclude all Free Software contributions from anyone in Germany.
02:02 DaemonFC; And to go back and remove any that you previously accepted.
02:02 DaemonFC; Then the Germans would be at a disadvantage.
02:03 DaemonFC; Because they couldn't get any software jobs because it could potentially make your entire project illegal in Germany if they assert their "rights of the author" later.
02:04 DaemonFC; So, like, nobody took them seriously.
02:05 DaemonFC; Like, some abusive pseudo-legal letters appeared and people talked about it a little, and then kept cdrkit in the repo.
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02:05 heureka; weird, my onion circuit went down
02:06 heureka; anyway, how are FSF/SFLC obligated to sue anyone? it is the _authors_/copyright-holders who may wish to do so.
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02:07 heureka; and if authors chose to dual-license/re-license their work with GPL and BSD, how was this supposed to violate any license terms?
02:07 heureka; of cause, if i changed some busybox sources, then i had to publish those changes, if and only if i distributed any binary anywhere.
02:07 heureka; that's none of my concerns, certainly i will comply with licensing terms.
02:08 heureka; however, it is concerning me some lawyers think they could arbitrarily sue anyone with the only result being:
02:08 heureka; "So tell me: where's all this great code we got out of the lawsuits? In the entire time the SFLC or Conservancy have had the right to sue people over BusyBox, where is one line of code it resulted in? I honestly want to know, because I can't name any, and I was a plaintiff!"
02:09 DaemonFC; Schilling did all kinds of crazy things in cdrtools that wouldn't even be allowed in Fedora.
02:09 DaemonFC; For starters, parts of it are setuid root.
02:10 heureka; well, that's technical issues again.
02:10 heureka; besides, i had technical issues with busybox, to refrain from it, if possible. and test toybox instead.
02:10 DaemonFC; It was meant to be "cross platform" and being setuid root makes that easier than limiting your capabilities using the native methods on that OS.
02:11 heureka; and, if i wanted to or could contribute to any such project, it would be toybox probably, because of particular technical issues of busybox.
02:11 heureka; how then, would FSF/SFLC sue anyone over such a decision?
02:11 heureka; because, what i tried was compiling busybox (GPL), with a GPLed tcc-toolchain
02:12 heureka; you see, GPL here GPL there, however busybox locked out tcc compile with the Kbuild system (can be repaired, yet toybox didn't have this problem to begin with)
02:13 heureka; i mean, GPL compliance isn't an issue for me at all, simply because i cannot publish anything at all, due to bureaucratic hindrances in germany.
02:14 heureka; which is, at bare minimum i need to pay rent.
02:14 heureka; besides, publication and legal claims against those imply other legislation, such as minimum wage.
02:14 heureka; so, what's the legal obligation of FSF/SFLC? to enforce minimum wage paid to free software developers?
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02:15 starstreak; heureka, you're insane, and i should know
02:15 starstreak; cuz im insane too
02:17 heureka; occasionally i was, errornously, accused of not publishing anything; hence i am asking where is the minimum wage paid first?
02:17 starstreak; you don't get minimum wage when you volunteer
02:18 heureka; if if i volunteer, minimum wage legislation remains.
02:18 heureka; even if.
02:19 starstreak; who asked you to do work?
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02:20 heureka; starstreak: i comfortable arrangement? isn't it?
02:20 Helenah; o.o
02:21 starstreak; i think you're completely missing the point of free software
02:21 starstreak; people willingly volunteer their time to do free labour to make software better
02:22 Helenah; starstreak: Agreed :3
02:22 starstreak; and you accuse them of anti competitive behavior because of compatibility issues
02:22 heureka; reminder, i do NOT want to use GNU toolchain anymore, none of it.
02:22 Helenah; starstreak: Pretty wrong :D
02:22 heureka; starstreak: i got evidence for this, alot of evidence.
02:22 starstreak; Helenah, whats wrong
02:22 heureka; although, i am not implying it is intentional and caused by GNU.
02:23 Helenah; accusing them of anti-competitive behaviour because of compatibility issues starstreak :3
02:23 starstreak; Helenah, that is what heureka is doing
02:23 Helenah; heureka: You ever coded in your life?
02:23 Helenah; I know...
02:23 Helenah; Actually coded something serious I mean
02:23 Helenah; BIG
02:24 Helenah; maybe even maintained some big and popular open source software?
02:24 Helenah; It isn't easy...
02:24 Helenah; at all...
02:24 starstreak; Helenah, he spends all his time trying to get stuff to work with tinycc and then blames the GNU/FSF/UN/Pentagon of anti competitive behavior when stuff doesnt work
02:24 Helenah; o.O
02:24 Helenah; Weird...
02:24 starstreak; wait till you hear about the IBM Wintel Pentagon conspiracy of his
02:24 heureka; i roughly estimate the c-only toolchain profile and tcc-toolchain integration as one year of work
02:25 Helenah; lol
02:25 heureka; although, it's far less LoC written than reading what GNU/FSF consider "free software"
02:25 starstreak; he uses "free software" in quotes
02:26 Helenah; I've compiled loads of stuff... if your compiler doesn't work then it's not GNU's fault or any voluntary developer, it's the compiler you're using and what you're expecting it to compile...
02:26 Helenah; So my solution to that would be "Use a decent compiler"
02:26 starstreak; Helenah, he considers that "anti competitive"
02:26 heureka; i had least issues with the compiler, it requires some minor changes and many builds patched, i consider the compiler problem mostly solved with tcc
02:27 heureka; the ASM issue isn't
02:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Over 400 episodes of Sesame Street were deleted from HBO Max.
02:27 heureka; that's another question i had for GNU/FSF, what they considered a suitable ISA and assembler
02:27 DaemonFC; "New York Times" says it's "surprised" people.
02:27 starstreak; DaemonFC, why are you watching Sesame Street?
02:27 Helenah; Weird that...
02:27 Helenah; capitalists can just...
02:27 Helenah; create productions and then...
02:27 Helenah; lol
02:28 DaemonFC; An example of a lot of stuff disappearing at once.
02:28 Helenah; I mean archieved stuff
02:28 Helenah; and then destroy it...
02:28 Helenah; :/
02:28 DaemonFC; People have "streaming" instead of video tapes.
02:28 DaemonFC; Streaming is worse.
02:28 starstreak; thats why I like to keep a copy of anything I watch that I enjoy
02:28 Helenah; :3
02:28 starstreak; i have a binder full of burned blu ray data disks full of seasons of TV shows
02:28 Helenah; Why are they destroying history is what I wanna know! o.O
02:29 Helenah; Sesame street is a childhood memory of mine...
02:29 DaemonFC; Down the memory hole.
02:31 Helenah; DaemonFC: Do you remember "Elmo's World"? :3
02:31 heureka; it's somewhat ironic, GPL copyleft enforcement "magically" ends where FSF consider the line drawn for what's supposed to be software
02:31 starstreak; some shows are hard to find now even on pirate sites
02:31 starstreak; TMNT 2003, Astroboy 2003, hard to get now
02:31 starstreak; i have them burned on blu ray data disks
02:31 Helenah; hmm
02:32 heureka; then they argue, they're concerned with "software freedom", in the middle in between they build the entire "free software" upon potentially malicious hardware with vendor-specific assembly
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02:33 starstreak; I got TMNT 80s too
02:33 starstreak; i love being a turtle!
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02:36 heureka; http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/10437.html?thread=283077#cmt283077
02:36 TR Bot; mjg59 | The ongoing fight against GPL enforcement
02:37 heureka; meaning, if i did publish anything, the GPL2 license is potentially revoked
02:38 heureka; so either, for example, the minimum wage question is fully settled _before_ publishing anything at all, or nothing will be published
02:38 heureka; otherwise, i might loose the right distribute under terms of GPL2
02:39 starstreak; thats the part that makes you more insane than I
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02:46 heureka; i think, the best advice is to not publish anything without appropriate compensation for work
02:47 heureka; corporations, such as IBM, may not have much problems with this, to expand their market share with "free software", and vendor-locking against it
02:48 starstreak; nobody asked you to do that work
02:48 starstreak; you're not an employee
02:49 starstreak; nobody cares
02:49 heureka; that's a circular argument: nothing is paid because it's worth nothing; and it's worth nothing because nothing is paid.
02:50 starstreak; send a bill to the developers of tinycc
02:50 starstreak; watch how hard they laugh at you
02:51 heureka; ARM ltd., IBM, Pentagon ... whoever...
02:51 heureka; i had not put tcc on that list
02:51 starstreak; go for it, send them a bill
02:51 starstreak; nobody is going to pay you
02:52 heureka; which is their invoice address?
02:52 starstreak; keep the changes for yourself
02:52 starstreak; sorry heureka, i charge $30/hr to look stuff up for lunatics
02:52 starstreak; scratch that, $30/min
02:53 heureka; $30/hour, thats' cool, then it's slightly more than minimum wage for me too i thin
02:53 heureka; k
02:54 starstreak; https://www.defense.gov/Resources/Mailing-Addresses/
02:54 TR Bot; Mailing Addresses
02:54 starstreak; Michael J. McCord
02:54 starstreak; Under Secretary of Defense Comptroller/Chief Financial Officer
02:54 starstreak; 1100 Defense Pentagon, Washington, DC 20301-1100
02:57 starstreak; IBM: https://corporateofficeheadquarters.org/ibm/
02:57 TR Bot; IBM Corporate Office | Headquarters Contact
02:58 starstreak; 1 Orchard Rd Armonk (HQ), NY
02:58 starstreak; arm: Global Headquarters
02:58 starstreak; 110 Fulbourn Road
02:58 starstreak; Cambridge, UK
02:58 starstreak; CB1 9NJ
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03:03 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/an-encrypted-zip-file-can-have-two-correct-passwords-heres-why/
03:03 TR Bot; An encrypted ZIP file can have two correct passwords here's why
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03:03 starstreak; Bitcoin: lnbc1p3s9c7hpp598kt9fu2fslyvgrz52tt7zup8ncp8y2kql9f4y30t8j0wz9yxppqsp5mppc4d4lm3mg47lv3h5zmjgqdxapzausjks95p6xhq7kpwmzgy8sdqqcqzynxqyz5vq9q7sqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq9qsqfppqj65ne37cn6lt6qzmushy4986ukk0jrrrrnfscgnqs2tkyve7q2y7q9f6at7jw59stwqsr7xmvfdq7dy25ncnda0um7ft5mkw5f5u7rghxf6pjx8g7rfpz64syexjvk7wa2a2glsp22p273
03:03 heureka; starstreak: send this bitcoin address to the DoD and IBM, on my behalf
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03:06 starstreak; lol so you want them to pay for finding you the address?
03:06 starstreak; because you can't use google?
03:06 starstreak; INSANE
03:07 starstreak; you're a bigger lunatic than I am and I believe in some eccentric stuff
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03:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], CNN is in deep shit.
03:30 DaemonFC; So now they run "articles" about Chipotle and Velveeta.
03:31 DaemonFC; Using this over the top language, very obsequious.
03:31 DaemonFC; Obviously, they get paid and they write about Velveeta like it's the second coming of Christ.
03:32 DaemonFC; Everyone hates CNN. Nobody watches it. Complete garbage.
03:32 DaemonFC; They know how to lose money and now they're laying people off.
03:48 Helenah; o.o
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06:58 TR News; (NEW): Star Labs Unveils StarBook Mk VI Linux Laptop with 12th Gen Intel or AMD Ryzen 7 CPUs https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Star_Labs_Unveils_StarBook_Mk_VI_Linux_Laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Star_Labs_Unveils_StarBook_Mk_VI_Linux_Laptop.gmi
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07:04 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk to Dustin Childs about the recent ZDI Black Hat talk where they discovered the current trend of security patches not actually fixing the security problem. We talk about what this problem means. Why is it happening, and what ZDI is doing to try nudge the industry in the right direction." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/08/21/episode-337-security-patches-are-getting-worse-dustin-childs-from-zdi-tells-us-why/
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07:16 TR News; Cook County Judges Office gets thrown off GULAG Tube (YouTube) and has to file an appeal. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/22/cook-county-judges-office-gets-thrown-off-gulag-tube-youtube-and-has-to-file-an-appeal/
07:16 TR Bot; Cook County Judges Office gets thrown off GULAG Tube (YouTube) and has to file an appeal. | BaronHK's Rants
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07:18 TR News; "Id like to thank BMAX for providing the B3 Plus for review. It retails at around $229"... again a WINDOWS machines marketed ("reviewed") under the guise of having something to do with Linux (no!). "The review model included a 256GB M.2 2242 SATA SSD drive complete with Windows 11 Pro installed" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/22/bmax-b3-plus-review-an-intel-celeron-n5095-mini-pc-with-two-gigabit-ethernet-ports/
07:18 TR Bot; BMAX B3 Plus Review - An Intel Celeron N5095 mini PC with two Gigabit Ethernet ports - CNX Software
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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07:31 TR News; (NEW): Command-Line Tools to Take Website Screenshots in Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Command_Line_Tools_to_Take_Website_Screenshots_in_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Command_Line_Tools_to_Take_Website_Screenshots_in_Linux.gmi
07:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Command-Line Tools to Take Website Screenshots in Linux
07:33 TR News; Parse multi-CSV files in Go https://fale.io/blog/2022/08/22/parse-multi-csv-files-in-go Source: Fabio Alessandro Locati | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//fale.io/blog/2022/08/22/parse-multi-csv-files-in-go
07:33 TR Bot; NO TITLE
07:36 TR News; "During the whole of 2021 we had 13 CVEs reported and already that was a large amount and the most CVEs in a single year since 2016. There has clearly been an increased CVE issue rate in curl as of late." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/08/22/increased-cve-activity-in-curl/
07:36 TR Bot; CVE activity in curl? | daniel.haxx.se
07:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.gmi
07:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
07:38 TR News; IBM fluff, SPONSORED by IBM, with "CLOWN" thrown in for good measure https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/22/erp-flexibility-trumps-loyalty-in-the-cloud/
07:38 TR Bot; ERP Flexibility Trumps Loyalty In The Cloud - IT Jungle
07:43 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Qusg6uvWlBg
07:43 TR Bot; Browser Startups Say Chrome and Safari Are Anti-Competitive | Tech News Briefing Podcast | WSJ - Invidious
07:43 DaemonFC; Which "startups" are trying to make a browser?
07:43 DaemonFC; Most of the smaller ones are using Chromium or Webkit.
07:43 TR News; Timothy Prickett Morgan and co still produced IBM-paid IBM propaganda, e.g. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/22/big-blue-taps-falconstor-to-move-data-to-powervs-cloud-and-protect-it/ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/22/ibms-competitive-analysis-for-power10-entry-machines/ this is not journalism, it's MARKETING. ICBM deals with media like Microsoft does.
07:43 TR Bot; Big Blue Taps FalconStor To Move Data To PowerVS Cloud And Protect It - IT Jungle
07:43 TR Bot; IBMs Competitive Analysis For Power10 Entry Machines - IT Jungle
07:44 TR News; Are people aware that this is IBM-sponsored fake 'journalism'? The WWW has long been majority webspam. https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/22/powervm-vhmc-hmc-and-cloud-management-console-get-their-tweaks/ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/08/22/ibm-i-ptf-guide-volume-24-number-34/
07:45 TR Bot; PowerVM, vHMC, HMC, And Cloud Management Console Get Their Tweaks - IT Jungle
07:45 TR Bot; IBM i PTF Guide, Volume 24, Number 34 - IT Jungle
07:45 DaemonFC; https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox
07:45 TR Bot; Origin works best on Firefox gorhill/uBlock Wiki GitHub
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; librewolf too?
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; I mostly use falkon
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; its blocker is built in
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; and it has no incentive to spy
07:47 schestowitz[TR]; did uBlock 'origin' send its origin to Microsoft proprietary software?
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; that's a major privacy blunder/filaure rtight there
07:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], LibreWolf bundles it.
07:49 DaemonFC; The Firefox version of uBO.
07:49 DaemonFC; The reasons it doesn't work as well in Chromium browsers are limitations of Chromium.
07:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], There's a version of uBO for Microsoft Edge, but that version is maintained by someone else. You could install the Chrome Store version if you don't trust the Microsoft Store maintainer, but it's better not to use Microsoft Edge at all.
07:51 DaemonFC; Why would anyone use Edge? It's the second sketchiest browser after Yandex Browser.
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: https://video.danielpocock.com/Eric-Schmidt.mp4
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; why would you block ads in the first place?
07:52 schestowitz[TR]; are you a criminal?
07:52 TR News; (NEW): Security: Pen Testing, Social Engineering, Open Source Security, and Holes in cURL https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Security_Pen_Testing_Social_Engineering_Open_Source_Security_an.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Security_Pen_Testing_Social_Engineering_Open_Source_Security_an.gmi
07:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: Pen Testing, Social Engineering, Open Source Security, and Holes in cURL
07:57 DaemonFC; Bilderberg Group
07:57 DaemonFC; He is a member of the Bilderberg Group and has attended the annual Bilderberg conferences every year since 2007 (except for 2009).[137][138][139][140] He also has a listed membership with the Trilateral Commission.[141] He is a member of the International Advisory Board at the Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford.[142]
07:59 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission
07:59 TR Bot; Trilateral Commission - Wikipedia
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 107.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 100.95
07:59 DaemonFC; Notable members
07:59 DaemonFC; Jeffrey Epstein, former hedge fund manager convicted of sex trafficking in 2008, described as "an enthusiastic member of the Trilateral Commission" in 2002[30][31][32][33]
07:59 TR News; Preview
08:00 TR News; (NEW): Flameshot Not Working On Wlroots & Sway: Heres The Fix https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Flameshot_Not_Working_On_Wlroots_amp_Sway_Here_39_s_The_Fix.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Flameshot_Not_Working_On_Wlroots_amp_Sway_Here_39_s_The_Fix.gmi
08:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Flameshot Not Working On Wlroots & Sway: Here's The Fix"
08:00 TR News; (NEW): Phaedrus Leeds: GUADEC 2022 Happenings https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Phaedrus_Leeds_GUADEC_2022_Happenings.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Phaedrus_Leeds_GUADEC_2022_Happenings.gmi
08:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Phaedrus Leeds: GUADEC 2022 Happenings
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08:10 TR News; (NEW): Peropesis 1.6.2 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Peropesis_1_6_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Peropesis_1_6_2.gmi
08:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Peropesis 1.6.2
08:13 TR News; Logodust is a Free-to-use Open-source Logo Collection https://medevel.com/logo/
08:13 TR Bot; Logodust is a Free-to-use Open-source Logo Collection
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:23 TR News; (NEW): A collection of stable kernels" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/A_collection_of_stable_kernels.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/A_collection_of_stable_kernels.gmi
08:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines A collection of stable kernels"
08:24 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
08:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
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08:34 TR News; Two Years Later COVID-19 Has Only Gotten More Infectious and Widespread https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/two-years-later-covid-19-has-only-gotten-more-infectious-and-widespread/
08:34 TR Bot; Blog Archive Two Years Later COVID-19 Has Only Gotten More Infectious and Widespread
08:35 TR News; (NEW): Nautilus 43 Beta Arrives in Ubuntu 22.10 Daily Builds https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Nautilus_43_Beta_Arrives_in_Ubuntu_22_10_Daily_Builds.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Nautilus_43_Beta_Arrives_in_Ubuntu_22_10_Daily_Builds.gmi
08:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Nautilus 43 Beta Arrives in Ubuntu 22.10 Daily Builds
08:36 TR News; (NEW): Kdenlive 22.08 released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kdenlive_22_08_released.gmi
08:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08 released"
08:36 TR News; (NEW): My first impression of GNOME Console on Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/My_first_impression_of_GNOME_Console_on_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/My_first_impression_of_GNOME_Console_on_Linux.gmi
08:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines My first impression of GNOME Console on Linux
08:41 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Android_Leftovers.gmi
08:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
08:43 TR News; "Since I switched to Linux, I have become more aware of the importance of privacy and data protection in the dangerous world of the Internet." https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2022/08/librem-14-review.html
08:43 TR Bot; Purism Librem 14 review: The king of privacy-oriented laptops!
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08:44 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 21, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/irc-log-210822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/irc-log-210822/
08:44 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 21, 2022 | Techrights
08:51 TR News; Links 22/08/2022: Kdenlive 22.08 and RC2 of Linux 6.0 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/rc2-of-linux-6-0-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/rc2-of-linux-6-0-released/
08:51 TR Bot; Links 22/08/2022: Kdenlive 22.08 and RC2 of Linux 6.0 Released | Techrights
08:51 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_leftovers.gmi
08:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
08:56 TR News; Conclusion: The masks and distance work. The current approach leads to neural damage, among other long-term/life-long harm. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/two-years-later-covid-19-has-only-gotten-more-infectious-and-widespread/
08:57 TR News; "People love to rag on Google Chrome for being a bloated browser that eats up your computers resources. Well, Microsoft Edge has become even worse." https://www.howtogeek.com/826758/microsoft-edge-is-now-more-bloated-than-google-chrome/
08:57 TR Bot; Microsoft Edge Is Now More Bloated Than Google Chrome
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 107.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.75
09:03 TR News; (UPDATED): Celluloid (Gnome MPV) Now GTK4 + LibAwaita Video Player for Linux (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Celluloid_Gnome_MPV_Now_GTK4_LibAwaita_Video_Player_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Celluloid_Gnome_MPV_Now_GTK4_LibAwaita_Video_Player_for_Linux.gmi
09:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Celluloid (Gnome MPV) Now GTK4 + LibAwaita Video Player for Linux (UPDATED)
09:07 TR News; (NEW): Star Labs Unveils StarBook Mk VI Linux Laptop with 12th Gen Intel or AMD Ryzen 7 CPUs" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Star_Labs_Unveils_StarBook_Mk_VI_Linux_Laptop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Star_Labs_Unveils_StarBook_Mk_VI_Linux_Laptop.gmi
09:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Star Labs Unveils StarBook Mk VI Linux Laptop with 12th Gen Intel or AMD Ryzen 7 CPUs"
09:07 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
09:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:21 TR News; "In theory the Ubuntu 22.04 server installer will cope with reused disks that already have partitions on them," https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu2204InstallerScrubDisks | Source: uni Toronto
09:21 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/Ubuntu2204InstallerScrubDisks
09:21 TR News; "This is actually a regular bread-bin C64 inside with an aftermarket case to look a little like a C64C." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/08/19/the-australian-commodore-64/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
09:21 TR Bot; The Australian Commodore 64 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
09:22 TR News; Steve Jobs' Apple-1 computer prototype auctioned for nearly $700K https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jobs-apple-1-computer-prototype-auctioned-nearly-700k-rcna44136 | Source: NBC
09:22 TR Bot; Steve Jobs' Apple-1 computer prototype auctioned for nearly $700K
09:23 TR News; "Able to quickly swap between cryptographic primitives in response to new attacks." https://soatok.blog/2022/08/20/cryptographic-agility-and-superior-alternatives/ | Source: Dhole Moments
09:23 TR Bot; Cryptographic Agility and Superior Alternatives - Dhole Moments
09:23 TR News; "After playing this for 3 years, Ive learned that you have to learn about your team mates styles, and this can only happen if you consistently play with the same folks" https://staltz.com/the-myth-of-mass-collaboration.html |
09:23 TR Bot; Staltz - The Myth of Mass Collaboration
09:23 TR News; "tldr: Announcing a rewrite of Ema (a static site generator in Haskell with hot reload destined to develop an unique kind of apps) with support for generic route encoders and composability." https://srid.ca/ema-0.8 |
09:23 TR Bot; Composability and generic routes in Ema 0.8 Sridhar Ratnakumar
09:24 TR News; "One easy thing that we can do to help the poor developer that needs to find what changed in the code that stopped their printer to work properly, is to keep the project bisectable" https://andrealmeid.com/post/2022-07-31-keep-bisect/ |
09:24 TR Bot; Keeping a project bisectable | tony is coding
09:25 TR News; "Some sites have a feed, but dont tell you about it. The good news is that the feed can often be guessed." https://www.autodidacts.io/what-is-rss/ |
09:25 TR Bot; What is RSS? The Autodidacts
09:28 TR News; Horus Calendar HiDPI Support - No More Bluriness! gemini://auragem.space/~krixano/20220821.gmi
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09:38 TR News; "a new study in Science Advances adds to these findings" https://reason.com/2022/08/19/incompetent-people-are-often-too-incompetent-to-realize-just-how-incompetent-they-are-says-new-study/ | Source: Reason
09:38 TR Bot; Incompetent People Don't Realize How Incompetent They Are, Says New Study
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09:39 TR News; "Google has an automated tool to detect abusive images of children." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveillance-toddler-photo.html | Source: New York Times
09:39 TR Bot; A Dad Took Photos of His Naked Toddler for the Doctor. Google Flagged Him as a Criminal. - The New York Times
09:40 TR News; Gulag "flagged the images as child sexual abuse" https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/21/23315513/google-photos-csam-scanning-account-deletion-investigation | Source: The Verge
09:40 TR Bot; Google AI flagged parents accounts for potential abuse over nude photos of their sick kids - The Verge
09:41 TR News; "This makes it all the more dreadful that so many people in authority ignored the protestations" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/08/21/tony-blair-ignored-warnings-post-office-scandal/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
09:41 TR Bot; Tony Blair was warned about Post Office IT deal
09:41 TR News; "The algorithm found 2 per cent of posts and 6 per cent of comments were highly toxic." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2334043-more-than-one-in-eight-reddit-users-publish-toxic-posts/ | Source: New Scientist
09:41 TR Bot; Reddit: More than one in eight users publish toxic posts | New Scientist
09:42 TR News; He should not step down, he should be arrested or executed. Surveillance by him led to the deaths of many innocent people. https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/ceo-of-israeli-pegasus-spyware-firm-to-step-down/93700695 | Source: India Times
09:42 TR Bot; CEO of Israeli Pegasus spyware firm to step down, CIO News, ET CIO
09:42 TR News; Surveillance https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy73b7/peter-thiels-palantir-teams-up-with-better-to-create-bloomberg-for-home-loans | Source: Vice
09:42 TR Bot; Peter Thiels Palantir Teams Up With Better to Create Bloomberg for Home Loans
09:43 TR News; "Government wants to work with the tech giant to protect children" = read as: we want total control, in the name of "the children" (same regime whose royal family is connected to Jeffrey Epstein) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/21/meta-risks-grotesque-betrayal-children-introducing-encrypted/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
09:43 TR Bot; Meta risks a grotesque betrayal of children by introducing encrypted messaging, says Priti Patel
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09:45 TR News; "The candidate, Luis Miguel, tweeted on Thursday" https://www.axios.com/2022/08/20/luis-miguel-twitter-suspended-violence-federal-agents | Source: Axios
09:45 TR Bot; Twitter suspends Florida GOP candidate who called for violence against federal agents
09:46 TR News; Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) = SS https://www.americanoversight.org/ice-admits-to-practice-of-deleting-senior-officials-text-messages-during-trump-administration | Source: American Oversight
09:46 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/ice-admits-to-practice-of-deleting-senior-officials-text-messages-during-trump-administration )
09:47 TR News; "A wet bulb temperature of 35C means the body can no longer cool itself to a temperature that can maintain normal functions." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/19/middleeast/climate-change-heat-humidity-mime-intl/index.html | Source: CNN
09:47 TR Bot; Why the Middle East may be too hot to live in by the end of the century - CNN
09:48 TR News; The sheikhs and terrorists (e.g. Newcastle United, MbS) will keep watering their lawns and pitches like there's no tomorrow https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62464387 | Source: BBC
09:48 TR Bot; bans: What are water companies doing to tackle leaks? - BBC News
09:49 TR News; "Despite hosepipe bans being triggered across the country, analysis of data from industry regulator Ofwat found the amount lost from leaks last year was enough to water 4.5 billion gardens" https://www.nationalworld.com/news/environment/uk-water-companies-most-leakages-suppliers-compare-bosses-millions-3812613 |
09:49 TR Bot; UK water companies have the most leakages? | NationalWorld
09:49 TR News; "Each fish will be moved nearby to the River IJssel, a Dutch branch of the drought-hit River Rhine" https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1954985.html | Source: RTL
09:50 TR Bot; RTL Today - "Somebody has to do it": Dutch anglers save fish as Rhine drought bites
09:56 TR News; "The Mistral will also be the last model to have Bugatti's famous W16 16-cylinder engine." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/19/business/bugatti-mistral-convertible/index.html | Source: CNN
09:56 TR Bot; Bugatti hopes its last gas-only car will also be the world's fastest convertible - CNN
09:56 TR News; "The grand tourer is based on a yet-unknown EV architecture, with all-wheel-drive capability" https://www.carscoops.com/2022/08/delorean-alpha5-ev-makes-its-public-debut-at-pebble-beach/ | Source: Car Scoops
09:56 TR Bot; Alpha5 EV Makes Its Public Debut At Pebble Beach | Carscoops
09:56 TR News; [Old] "Travelling inside Germany with an electric car was basically perfect." http://aigarius.com/blog/2022/06/29/long-travel-in-an-electric-car/ |
09:56 TR Bot; travel in an electric car | Aigarius Blog
09:57 TR News; "Sansone created a prototype of a novel synchronous reluctance motor" https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/this-17-year-old-designed-a-motor-that-could-potentially-transform-the-electric-car-industry-180980550/ | Source: Smithsonian Magazine
09:57 TR Bot; This 17-Year-Old Designed a Motor That Could Potentially Transform the Electric Car Industry | Innovation| Smithsonian Magazine
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10:05 TR News; "That really spread-eagling position is not a worry theyre just cooling themselves" https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2022/08/12/splooting-squirrel-meaning-definition-new-york/ | Source: The Washington Post
10:05 TR Bot; New York City says 'splooting' squirrels are just keeping cool in the heat - The Washington Post
10:06 TR News; "My concern about the Left and free speech isnt that secular progressives are actually in favor of stabbing blasphemous novelists." https://jacobin.com/2022/08/salman-rushdie-stabbing-free-speech-socialist-politics-progressive-value/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
10:06 TR Bot; Salman Rushdies Stabbing Should Remind Us That Free Speech Is a Nonnegotiable Progressive Value
10:07 TR News; KSA = terrorism with sportwashing https://reason.com/volokh/2022/08/19/saudi-doctoral-student-gets-34-years-in-prison-for-tweets/ | Source: Reason
10:07 TR Bot; "Saudi Doctoral Student Gets 34 Years in Prison For Tweets"
10:07 TR News; "Students who feel they have suffered or seen a microaggression have been able to scan QR codes" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/20/report-microaggressions-qr-codes-campus-lamda-students-told/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
10:07 TR Bot; Report microaggressions through QR codes on campus, Lamda students told
10:10 TR News; Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch threatened an Aussie news site https://text.npr.org/1118705940 | Source: NPR
10:10 TR Bot; Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch threatened an Aussie news site. It's fighting back
10:10 TR News; "We caution against such large-scale clampdown of broadcast stations" https://www.voanews.com/a/nigeria-to-revoke-licenses-of-52-media-outlets/6710280.html | Source: VOA News
10:10 TR Bot; Nigeria to Revoke Licenses of 52 Media Outlets
10:10 TR News; "Im flabbergasted that this extraordinary travesty is taking place under our noses, but Julian is still in Belmarsh Prison" https://www.laprensalatina.com/roger-waters-leads-pro-assange-protest-in-washington/ | Source: La Prensa Latina
10:10 TR Bot; Roger Waters leads pro-Assange protest in Washington - La Prensa Latina Media
10:11 TR News; "CPJ was not able to verify the reason for the detention of Shearer and Faizbakhsh" https://cpj.org/2022/08/taliban-intelligence-agents-detain-american-filmmaker-ivor-shearer-afghan-producer-faizullah-faizbakhsh-in-kabul/ | Source: CPJ
10:11 TR Bot; Taliban intelligence agents detain American filmmaker Ivor Shearer, Afghan producer Faizullah Faizbakhsh in Kabul - Committee to Protect Journalists
10:11 TR News; "one of the men slapped him in the face, causing his mouth to bleed" https://cpj.org/2022/08/taliban-members-beat-threaten-afghan-journalist-saboor-raufi/ | Source: CPJ
10:11 TR Bot; Taliban members beat, threaten, Afghan journalist Saboor Raufi - Committee to Protect Journalists
10:12 TR News; "According to Tatar-Inform, the searches were linked to the journalists' articles covering Russia's ongoing aggression against Ukraine." https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-rferl-journalists-searched-jailed/31992893.html | Source: RFERL
10:12 TR Bot; Russian Police Search Homes Of Journalists Contributing To RFE/RL Programs
10:12 TR News; "WikiLeaks exposed the killers and their keepers from the 12 July 2007 Baghdad airstrikes" https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/despite-resistance-wikileaks-continues-its-fight-for-the-truth,16662 | Source: Independent AU
10:12 TR Bot; Despite resistance, WikiLeaks continues its fight for the truth
10:17 TR News; "The plaintiffs, all of whom are American citizens, said in their complaint they visited Assange while he was living under political asylum at the Ecuadorian embassy in London." https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/wikileaks-founders-lawyers-allege-cia-authorized-spying-on-their-visits | Source: ABAJournal
10:17 TR Bot; WikiLeaks founders lawyers allege CIA authorized spying on their visits
10:17 TR News; "Using technology in schools enriches the classroom experience, but for many students with disabilities" https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/opinion-its-time-michigan-schools-double-down-accessibility | Source: Bridge Michigan
10:17 TR Bot; Opinion | Its time for Michigan schools to double-down on accessibility | Bridge Michigan
10:18 TR News; "Priority applications must be made by 20 September 2022, after which it's 'first in, best dressed'." https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/au-direct-priority-registration-period-closes-soon.html | Source: IT Wire
10:18 TR Bot; - .au direct priority registration period closes soon
10:19 TR News; "The Morefine S600-Apex Engineer is a Mini PC built around the latest Intels i9-12900H/HK processor." https://linuxgizmos.com/mini-pc-features-intel-i9-12900h-hk-processor-triple-4k-displays-and-dual-lan-ports/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
10:19 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/mini-pc-features-intel-i9-12900h-hk-processor-triple-4k-displays-and-dual-lan-ports/ )
10:19 TR News; "The StarBook Mk VI can be configured to integrate one of the three following processors..." https://linuxgizmos.com/starbook-mk-vi-integrates-ryzen-7-5800u-and-ships-with-linux/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
10:19 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/starbook-mk-vi-integrates-ryzen-7-5800u-and-ships-with-linux/ )
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:22 TR News; The Secret Anti-Socialist History of Supermarkets https://jacobin.com/2022/08/supermarkets-anti-socialist-history-co-ops-surveillance-shoplifting/ Source: Jacobin Magazine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jacobin.com/2022/08/supermarkets-anti-socialist-history-co-ops-surveillance-shoplifting/
10:22 TR Bot; The Secret Anti-Socialist History of Supermarkets
10:23 TR News; "New on the GNOME desktop is their terminal emulator application simply named Console" https://opensource.com/article/22/8/linux-gnome-console | Source: OpenSource.com
10:23 TR Bot; first impression of GNOME Console on Linux | Opensource.com
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10:29 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 21st, 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_August_21st_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_August_21st_2022.gmi
10:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 21st, 2022
10:31 TR News; Mentoring https://opensource.com/article/22/8/mentoring-power-multiplier | Source: OpenSource.com
10:31 TR Bot; as a power multiplier in open source | Opensource.com
10:35 TR News; How to program a multitenant SaaS platform in Kubernetes | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/22/how-program-multitenant-saas-platform-kubernetes Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/08/22/how-program-multitenant-saas-platform-kubernetes
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10:35 TR Bot; How to program a multitenant SaaS platform in Kubernetes | Red Hat Developer
10:36 TR News; Linux commands: Top 20 most important commands you need to know https://linuxconfig.org/linux-commands-top-20-most-important-commands-you-need-to-know
10:36 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-commands-top-20-most-important-commands-you-need-to-know )
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10:38 TR News; Important cURL Commands for Linux Developers https://www.linuxshelltips.com/curl-commands-linux-developers/ Source: Linux Shell Tips | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/curl-commands-linux-developers/
10:38 TR Bot; Important cURL Commands for Linux Developers
10:40 *kiki_ is now known as KiKi
10:45 TR News; "One of the many functions a digital oscilloscope offers over its analog ancestors is a trigger button." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/21/why-didnt-we-think-of-making-a-remote-trigger-button/ | Source: Hackaday
10:45 TR Bot; Didnt We Think Of Making A Remote Trigger Button? | Hackaday
10:45 TR News; "Seeing some old Zilog 16-bit chips on eBay recently..." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/21/clover-computer-a-modern-z8000-cp-m-machine/ | Source: Hackaday
10:45 TR Bot; Computer: A Modern Z8000 CP/M Machine | Hackaday
10:46 TR News; Scam-Artists https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/22/should-we-let-scam-artists-educate-our-young-people/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:46 TR Bot; We Let Scam-Artists Educate Our Young People? - CounterPunch.org
10:47 TR News; When poor people get desperate they commit "petty" crimes (because "nothing left to lose"). When rich people get desperate they reach out to nuclear arsenals.
10:47 TR News; "Katie Halper interviews Bob Scheer about the future of journalism" https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/21/katie-halper-interviews-bob-scheer/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:47 TR Bot; Halper Interviews Bob Scheer scheerpost.com
10:48 TR News; "[AJ] and [Joe], collectively the [Knight Rider Historians] are bringing back one of the most iconic vehicles of the 1980s" https://hackaday.com/2022/08/21/knight-rider-keeps-on-truckin/ Today's cars are so awful that people miss the old ones...
10:48 TR Bot; Rider Keeps On Truckin | Hackaday
10:48 TR News; An ASCII Terminal Like Its 1974 https://hackaday.com/2022/08/21/an-ascii-terminal-like-its-1974/ | Source: Hackaday
10:48 TR Bot; ASCII Terminal Like Its 1974 | Hackaday
10:48 TR News; "We cannot assume that the politics of transaction will turn out the votes when Americans are longing for the politics of transformation." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/20/omar-democrats-lets-give-working-folks-reason-turn-out-vote-us | Source: Common Dreams
10:48 TR Bot; Omar to Democrats: 'Let's Give Working Folks a Reason to Turn Out to Vote for Us'
10:49 TR News; "Climate activists and grassroots organizers are wrestling with the contradictions embedded in the Inflation Reduction Act" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/21/climate-movements-fight-undo-worst-provisions-ira-begins | Source: Common Dreams
10:49 TR Bot; Opinion | The Climate Movement's Fight to Undo the Worst Provisions in the IRA Begins | Mitch Jones
10:49 TR News; Boycott Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/21/sanders-joins-striking-starbucks-workers-picket-line-boston | Source: Common Dreams
10:49 TR Bot; Sanders Joins Striking Starbucks Workers on the Picket Line in Boston
10:50 TR News; Plastic https://hackaday.com/2022/08/21/drastic-plastic-enclosure-rebuild-uses-donor-material/ | Source: Hackaday
10:50 TR Bot; Plastic: Enclosure Rebuild Uses Donor Material | Hackaday
10:51 TR News; "tweets"??? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/21/frightening-escalation-palestinian-rights-group-says-director-detained-israeli | Source: Common Dreams
10:51 TR Bot; 'Frightening Escalation': Palestinian Rights Group Says Director Detained by Israeli Agency
10:52 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
10:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
10:52 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Software Perils https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Proprietary_Software_Perils.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Proprietary_Software_Perils.gmi
10:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Software Perils
10:52 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.gmi
10:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
10:53 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 21st, 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_August_21st_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_August_21st_2022.gmi
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 138.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.63
11:00 TR News; (NEW): A collection of stable kernels https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/A_collection_of_stable_kernels.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/A_collection_of_stable_kernels.gmi
11:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines A collection of stable kernels
11:00 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
11:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
11:00 TR News; Links 22/08/2022: Celluloid 0.24 and New StarBook Mk VI | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/starbook-mk-vi/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/starbook-mk-vi/
11:00 TR Bot; Links 22/08/2022: Celluloid 0.24 and New StarBook Mk VI | Techrights
11:04 TR News; PATHETIC: our government outsourced "Excess mortality in England analysis" to criminals (Microsoft) from another continent and it is proprietary. Are moles in government responsible for this? https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions
11:04 TR Bot; mortality in England and English regions - GOV.UK
11:05 TR News; It has now been a month and a half since this WEEKLY thing was last updated. They stopped publishing where there was a SURGE in COVID-19-linked deaths. https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022
11:05 TR Bot; all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:22 TR News; (NEW): Best Video Player for Linux" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_Video_Player_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_Video_Player_for_Linux.gmi
11:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Video Player for Linux
11:22 TR News; (NEW): Gum A Tool for Glamorous Shell Scripts in Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Gum_A_Tool_for_Glamorous_Shell_Scripts_in_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Gum_A_Tool_for_Glamorous_Shell_Scripts_in_Linux.gmi
11:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gum A Tool for Glamorous Shell Scripts in Linux"
11:22 TR News; (NEW): Best PDF Reader for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_PDF_Reader_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_PDF_Reader_for_Linux.gmi
11:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best PDF Reader for Linux
11:23 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 22.04 Review https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Ubuntu_22_04_Review.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Ubuntu_22_04_Review.gmi
11:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.04 Review
11:26 TR News; Linux Mint System Requirements https://linuxconfig.org/linux-mint-system-requirements Source: LinuxConfig | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxconfig.org/linux-mint-system-requirements
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11:26 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/linux-mint-system-requirements )
11:26 TR News; "Sponsored" SPAM again in CNX this morning. At least not MICROSOFT SPAM.
11:28 TR News; When "transformation" means vendor lockin through complexity. ICBM still at it today https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/digital-transformation-4-key-building-blocks
11:28 TR Bot; Digital transformation: 4 key building blocks | The Enterprisers Project
11:29 TR News; List of Browsers available on Linux https://linuxconfig.org/list-of-browsers-available-on-linux
11:29 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/list-of-browsers-available-on-linux )
11:42 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
11:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
11:43 TR News; No, they do not teach them how to use GNU/Linux http://uknow.uky.edu/campus-news/graduate-and-professional-students-staff-and-faculty-invited-ubuntu-orientation
11:43 TR Bot; Graduate and professional students, staff and faculty invited to Ubuntu Orientation | UKNow
11:44 TR News; Best firewall for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_firewall_for_Linux.shtml
11:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best firewall for Linux
11:54 TR News; [RFC 00/10] arm64/riscv: Introduce fast kexec reboot - Pingfan Liu https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220822021520.6996-1-kernelfans@gmail.com/ Source: Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220822021520.6996-1-kernelfans@gmail.com/
11:54 TR Bot; [RFC 00/10] arm64/riscv: Introduce fast kexec reboot - Pingfan Liu
11:54 TR News; News: Wolaita zone prosecutor indicts prominent scholar Asefa Wodajo with spreading hate speech, disinformation https://addisstandard.com/news-wolaita-zone-prosecutor-indicts-prominent-scholar-asefa-wodajo-with-spreading-hate-speech-disinformation/
11:54 TR Bot; News: Wolaita zone prosecutor indicts prominent scholar Asefa Wodajo with spreading hate speech, disinformation - Addis Standard
11:55 TR News; "In a Proposed Decision scheduled for August 25, the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) proposes to limit the legal, eligible funds a low-income household can access for wireless broadband while increasing the amount that can be applied to wireline broadband." https://www.forbes.com/sites/roslynlayton/2022/08/18/whose-side-is-the-cpuc-on-not-low-income-californians/?sh=6c07aca23245
11:55 TR Bot; Whose Side Is The CPUC On? Not Low-Income Californians.
12:00 TR News; (NEW): 3 Best NGINX Alternatives for Your Linux Web Server https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/3_Best_NGINX_Alternatives_for_Your_Linux_Web_Server.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/3_Best_NGINX_Alternatives_for_Your_Linux_Web_Server.gmi
12:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines 3 Best NGINX Alternatives for Your Linux Web Server"
12:00 TR News; (NEW): Best firewall for Linux" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_firewall_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_firewall_for_Linux.gmi
12:01 TR News; (NEW): I love my GPD Micro PC https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/I_love_my_GPD_Micro_PC.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/I_love_my_GPD_Micro_PC.gmi
12:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines I love my GPD Micro PC
12:01 TR News; (NEW): 3 NES Emulators to Play Old NES Games on Linux in 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/3_NES_Emulators_to_Play_Old_NES_Games_on_Linux_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/3_NES_Emulators_to_Play_Old_NES_Games_on_Linux_in_2022.gmi
12:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines 3 NES Emulators to Play Old NES Games on Linux in 2022
12:01 TR News; (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 21st, 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_August_21st_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_August_21st_2022.gmi
12:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 21st, 2022
12:02 TR News; Qt Quick and Widgets, Qt 6.4 Edition https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-quick-and-widgets-qt-6.4-edition Source: Qt | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/qt-quick-and-widgets-qt-6.4-edition
12:02 TR Bot; Qt Quick and Widgets, Qt 6.4 Edition
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:25 TR News; Bringing the BLOAT of WWW to your desktop. Dumb idea. You end up like "phones" that now need 4 cores to do something similar, and which needs a recharge every few hours. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk4/+bug/1949299 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994944
12:25 TR Bot; Bug #1949299 gtk4-broadwayd missing in libgtk-4-bin 4.4 (impish... : Bugs : gtk4 package : Ubuntu
12:25 TR Bot; #994944 - libgtk-4-bin: gtk4-broadwayd not available - Debian Bug report logs
12:26 TR News; WWW used to mean light, simple, portable, standard, accessible. BUT TODAY'S WWW IS NOT ANY OF THAT ANYMORE. So making development frameworks "Web-like" is now a mistake.
12:27 TR News; "After our previous announcement on the availability of Ubuntu running on RISC-V processors and hardware, we are proud to announce the Ubuntu release for additional RISC-V hardware Allwinners Nezha board." https://canonical.com/blog/canonical-enables-ubuntu-on-allwinners-nezha-risc-v-boards
12:27 TR Bot; enables Ubuntu on Allwinners Nezha RISC-V boards | Canonical
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12:38 TR News; (NEW): Kooha Screen Recorder Gets Enhanced Functionalities With Version 2.1 Release https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kooha_Screen_Recorder_Gets_Enhanced_Functionalities_With_Versio.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Kooha_Screen_Recorder_Gets_Enhanced_Functionalities_With_Versio.gmi
12:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kooha Screen Recorder Gets Enhanced Functionalities With Version 2.1 Release
12:43 TR News; (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Reminders https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Reminders.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Reminders.gmi
12:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Reminders
12:48 TR News; (NEW): Femto is a tiny 12x12mm Raspberry Pi RP2040 module https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Femto_is_a_tiny_12x12mm_Raspberry_Pi_RP2040_module.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Femto_is_a_tiny_12x12mm_Raspberry_Pi_RP2040_module.gmi
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12:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Femto is a tiny 12x12mm Raspberry Pi RP2040 module
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12:51 TR News; "Today were talking to Mauricio Baeza (aka El Mau) from the Mexican LibreOffice community" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/08/22/community-member-monday-mauricio-baeza/ "The future, for me, is only tomorrow, so just keep doing what I do every day. I think LibreOffice should be consolidated as a truly community project, not to depend on the whims of some companies."
12:51 TR Bot; Community Member Monday: Mauricio Baeza - The Document Foundation Blog
12:51 TR News; (NEW): Canonical enables Ubuntu on Allwinners Nezha RISC-V boards https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Canonical_enables_Ubuntu_on_Allwinner_s_Nezha_RISC_V_boards.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Canonical_enables_Ubuntu_on_Allwinner_s_Nezha_RISC_V_boards.gmi
12:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical enables Ubuntu on Allwinners Nezha RISC-V boards
12:54 TR News; "Call them ancient but Perl scripts are still a great way of scripting automation tasks for various sysadmin tasks." https://linuxhandbook.com/run-perl-scripts-linux/
12:54 TR Bot; How to Run Perl Scripts in Linux Command Line
12:54 TR News; "One of my routines is acting suspicious. Im almost certain it wilfully misinterprets arguments just so it can throw an exception. There is a way to spy on it." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2022/08/22/suspicious-introspection/
12:54 TR Bot; Suspicious introspection | Playing Perl 6b6xA Raku
12:54 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/sex-robots
12:54 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Sex Robots
12:57 TR News; Software dev cracks Hyundai encryption with Google search - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/17/software_developer_cracks_hyundai_encryption/ Source: The Register UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theregister.com/2022/08/17/software_developer_cracks_hyundai_encryption/
12:57 TR Bot; Software dev cracks Hyundai encryption with Google search The Register
12:58 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo install Neptune Linux on your computer https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/How_to_install_Neptune_Linux_on_your_computer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/How_to_install_Neptune_Linux_on_your_computer.gmi
12:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to install Neptune Linux on your computer
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 150.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 121.00
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13:12 TR News; Hiding the Reports to Hide the Bodies (That 'Pile Up High') https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/piling-up-high/
13:12 TR Bot; Blog Archive Hiding the Reports to Hide the Bodies (That Pile Up High)
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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13:51 TR News; 14 grep command examples in Linux https://www.linuxtechi.com/grep-command-examples-in-linux/ Source: LinuxTechi | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxtechi.com/grep-command-examples-in-linux/
13:51 TR Bot; 14 grep command examples in Linux
13:55 TR News; (NEW): TrueNAS vs. Unraid: Which One is Better? https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/TrueNAS_vs_Unraid_Which_One_is_Better.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/TrueNAS_vs_Unraid_Which_One_is_Better.gmi
13:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines TrueNAS vs. Unraid: Which One is Better?
14:09 TR News; Going Public With New Site Code | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/code-going-public/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/code-going-public/
14:09 TR Bot; Going Public With New Site Code | Techrights
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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14:33 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/alpha-2
14:33 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Alpha
14:50 TR News; By August 2022 Windows Estimated to Have Secured Majority Market Share in Just a Couple Dozen Medium- or Large-Sized Nations (Android Dominates About 50) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/august-2022-share/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/august-2022-share/
14:50 TR Bot; By August 2022 Windows Estimated to Have Secured Majority Market Share in Just a Couple Dozen Medium- or Large-Sized Nations (Android Dominates About 50) | Techrights
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14:54 TR News; Spamnil is Still Clickfrauding and the Linux Foundation Supports the Clickfraud | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/youtube-clickfraud/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/youtube-clickfraud/
14:54 TR Bot; Spamnil is Still Clickfrauding and the Linux Foundation Supports the Clickfraud | Techrights
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14:57 TR News; Windows market share in Russia went down from 60% to 47% since invading Ukraine. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/russian-federation/#monthly-202103-202208
14:57 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Russian Federation | Statcounter Global Stats
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^
14:57 schestowitz[TR]; orcOS
14:58 XRevan86; schestowitz: And what grew is iOS.
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; android
14:58 XRevan86; Funky statistics.
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; well, to be fair
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; PCs got expensive
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; also in russia
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; maybe esp. in russia
14:58 XRevan86; Apple devices got unaffordable, and they're the ones that grew the most.
14:58 schestowitz[TR]; and then you have the sanctions
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 72.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 112.95
14:59 XRevan86; schestowitz: Not as expensive as iPhones/iPads got.
15:02 XRevan86; And some of the banking applications got removed from the Apple App Store.
15:02 XRevan86; Albeit SberBank worked around that: https://apps.apple.com/ru/app/%D1%81%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB/id1631810724
15:02 TR Bot; AppStore:
15:03 XRevan86; A different company uploaded SberBank Online into the Apple App Store under the name SBOL, and it's still there.
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15:04 XRevan86; "It's nice to see how small teams create such a product without any outside interference." :D
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15:09 XRevan86; 110 000 rubles for an iPhone 13 Pro 128G in DNS Shop, that would be ~$1 800
15:12 XRevan86; That's about twice as much as in the US, right?
15:12 XRevan86; Not that bad.
15:14 MinceR; https://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/cumtrapz.html
15:14 TR Bot; Cumulative trapezoidal numerical integration - MATLAB cumtrapz
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15:17 TR News; [Meme] EPO Has Failed to Comply With Straightforward ILOAT Ruling for Almost Two Months Already | Gemini address: [Meme] EPO Has Failed to Comply With Straightforward ILOAT Ruling for Almost Two Months Already
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15:19 TR News; [Meme] EPO Has Failed to Comply With Straightforward ILOAT Ruling for Almost Two Months Already | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/iloat-rulings-disregarded/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/iloat-rulings-disregarded/
15:19 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Has Failed to Comply With Straightforward ILOAT Ruling for Almost Two Months Already | Techrights
15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:21 TR News; False dichotomy: NSA spyware versus NSA spyware with back doors https://www.makeuseof.com/google-meet-vs-skype/
15:21 TR Bot; Google Meet vs. Skype: Which Video Calling App Is Better?
15:28 Helenah; Hi hi :3
15:29 techuser; hi
15:30 Helenah; Hows u? :3
15:30 schestowitz[TR]; 0/
15:30 techuser; it is yet another day with nothing different
15:30 Helenah; Hi hi schestowitz[TR] :D
15:30 *Helenah huggles all
15:30 *Helenah gives techuser a hamper of chocolates
15:30 *Helenah gives schestowitz[TR] a hamper of chocolates
15:30 techuser; I mean, maybe some stuff is different, but it doesn't make me feel better anyway
15:32 TR News; ACENSTV Wordo: DOTES gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-22.gmi
15:33 TR News; (NEW): 3 Best NGINX Alternatives for Your Linux Web Server" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/3_Best_NGINX_Alternatives_for_Your_Linux_Web_Server.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/3_Best_NGINX_Alternatives_for_Your_Linux_Web_Server.gmi
15:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines 3 Best NGINX Alternatives for Your Linux Web Server"
15:33 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
15:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
15:33 TR News; (NEW): I was WRONG! This is the BEST Package Manager. https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/I_was_WRONG_This_is_the_BEST_Package_Manager.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/I_was_WRONG_This_is_the_BEST_Package_Manager.gmi
15:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines I was WRONG! This is the BEST Package Manager.
15:43 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi
15:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers"
15:43 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
15:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
15:46 TR News; Links 22/08/2022: Many Software Comparisons and New RISC-V Products With Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/risc-v-products-with-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/risc-v-products-with-linux/
15:46 TR Bot; Links 22/08/2022: Many Software Comparisons and New RISC-V Products With Linux | Techrights
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16:07 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Screen-Shot-2022-08-09-at-9.45.04-AM.jpg
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16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:22 starstreak; yay another kernel update
16:22 starstreak; linux-5.19.3.arch1-1
16:23 techuser; hi
16:23 starstreak; hello :D
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16:30 TR News; Russias Invasion of Ukraine Turns 6 Months; Windows Share in Russia Down Every Month Since Then (From Over 55% to 47%) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/windows-loses-majority/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/windows-loses-majority/
16:30 TR Bot; Russias Invasion of Ukraine Turns 6 Months; Windows Share in Russia Down Every Month Since Then (From Over 55% to 47%) | Techrights
16:30 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: ^
16:30 schestowitz[TR]; i use kernel, btw...
16:31 XRevan86; schestowitz: I'm sorry, I think this is baloney.
16:32 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], funny, i like arch cuz it always has the latest stuff
16:32 XRevan86; > Russian-Made Baikal M1-Based Laptop Shows Up in Pre-Production
16:32 XRevan86; This is straight up not going to hit the market ever.
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16:33 MinceR; yay for always having the latest malware
16:34 starstreak; the linux kernel is malware?
16:35 techuser; to some extent yes
16:35 techuser; corporations destroy everything on their way
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16:35 MinceR; systemd is malware
16:36 MinceR; selinux might be malware
16:36 psymin; What is the "best" writeup on how OOXML is not open? :D
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16:46 psymin; Maybe this one? http://techrights.org/2008/12/06/ooxml-patent-royalties/
16:46 TR Bot; OOXML is Patent Trap, Royalties Render it Obsolete | Techrights
16:47 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080842
16:47 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/zu7ms9fv7cg91.jpg created on 2022-08-08 13:12:36.468484
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 73.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 107.33
17:02 psydroid2; is it even going to be used by the government?
17:03 psydroid2; with such slow Cortex-A57 cores from 2014
17:03 psydroid2; the price is astronomical
17:13 psymin; talking with anti-free zealots makes me sad
17:19 TR News; Alyssa Rosenzweig: Clip control on the Apple GPU https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-6.html
17:19 TR Bot; Rosenzweig Clip control on the Apple GPU
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 TR News; 20 Best C++ Projects For Beginners in 2022 https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-c-plus-plus-projects-for-beginners/ Source: Ubuntu Pit | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.ubuntupit.com/best-c-plus-plus-projects-for-beginners/
17:20 TR Bot; 20 Best C++ Projects For Beginners in 2022
17:22 TR News; Red Hat pushing proprietary ICBM garbage by pushing FUD about "malware" on Linux https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/getting-started-red-hat-insights-malware-detection
17:22 TR Bot; Getting started with Red Hat Insights malware detection
17:23 TR News; There used to be this not-so-joke about anti-virus companies producing and spreading viruses just to sell their products.
17:23 starstreak; i just had a mini dispute with my employment coach about my disability
17:23 starstreak; he tried saying i couldn't work from home for these types of jobs and i said it was illegal not to let me work from home
17:24 MinceR; what is an "employment coach"?
17:24 starstreak; oh someone who helps you find a job
17:24 MinceR; ic
17:24 starstreak; when you are on welfare or disability the government gives you a job coach
17:26 starstreak; i have panic attacks around lots of people so im on disability
17:26 starstreak; i can't work around other people
17:29 TR News; The Web is a Corporate Monoculture, Whereas Gemini is Still a Diverse Community | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/www-corporate-monoculture/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/22/www-corporate-monoculture/
17:29 TR Bot; The Web is a Corporate Monoculture, Whereas Gemini is Still a Diverse Community | Techrights
17:32 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080713
17:32 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/893sovpl73g91.jpg created on 2022-08-07 04:06:36.182217
17:45 starstreak; lol MinceR
17:45 starstreak; wifi cable
17:45 starstreak; some people think all internet is wifi
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; what is the "employment coach" cannot find enough client?
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; and becomes unemployed?
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18:05 starstreak; lol schestowitz[TR], i'd assume they'd know how to find another job
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; they need coaching
18:06 starstreak; "I don't need coaching! I was a coach!"
18:06 starstreak; i put the guy in his place by informing him that i can sue employers who won't accomodate my social anxiety by letting me work from home
18:07 starstreak; i didn't spend two years in paralegal school so that you can call me Ms
18:08 MinceR; then they need an employment coach
18:08 MinceR; but if there's another employment coach that's out of work, then the problem is solved
18:08 MinceR; they can coach each other.
18:08 starstreak; LOL
18:09 starstreak; i work in IT and legal, as for IT, there is no logical reason to work in an office if im doing phone based tech support
18:09 starstreak; legal might have issues but there are plenty of IT jobs
18:11 starstreak; they have to accomodate unless there is undue hardship and thats a tough burden to meet
18:11 starstreak; all i'd need to do legal is a printer/scanner and paper shredder
18:11 starstreak; thats hardly undue hardship
18:12 starstreak; oh and probably another laptop cuz im not gonna run windows on mine
18:12 TR News; Spent a long time search in vain for any data on gitlab and github losing/gaining market share as chart. You'd think with all that "fake" "media" out there someone would have researched this already, but there seem to be no comparative measurements at all. They all fake it. PR and secret data to secure the PR.
18:13 starstreak; if a company is expected to pay $60,000 for a wheel chair ramp, the legal precedent is pretty high
18:13 starstreak; $60,000 isn't considered undue hardship in those situations
18:14 starstreak; i love paralegal school :)
18:14 starstreak; i wish i could go to law school but thats $$$
18:14 TR News; There is hardly tech media anymore. PR and marketing operations that call themselves "media companies" aren't media companies but advertisers, sellouts. They literally lie, even intentionally, for companies and orgs.
18:15 TR News; (NEW): Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Mozilla_Firefox_104_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.gmi
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18:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mozilla Firefox 104 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
18:15 starstreak; only rich people can do it
18:16 TR News; Even when you give the media breaking stories or exclusive info these days they turn it down because "it's a lot of work"; more then rewriting press releases (lies)...
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18:17 TR News; Today's media isn't just ignoring the corruption or enabling it. It's part of it, it's an active participant.
18:18 starstreak; thats how the rich get richer
18:19 starstreak; i worked at an accident benefits legal firm for my placement and basically every rich person who slips or gets into a car accident would hire a full team of health professionals: doctors, chiropractors, physiotherapy, etc
18:19 starstreak; and a lawyer of course
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 starstreak; so they have plenty of evidence for damages
18:20 starstreak; but it feels like a scam
18:20 TR News; new narratives: you are a bigot supporting trump if you moan about the corrupt media; you are a bigot supporting trump if you moan about the proprietary back-doored voting machines; you are a antivaxxer for moaning about Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein etc. They take legitimate problems end try to associate the critics with extremism.
18:21 starstreak; slip on the sidewalk because of ice? sue the home owner, sue the city
18:22 starstreak; maybe even sue god for making ice in the first place
18:22 starstreak; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_against_God
18:22 TR Bot; Lawsuits against God - Wikipedia
18:23 TR News; "If you're a Lisper, even if you're not a Schemer, please don't skip this post! :)" If you're a Lisper, even if you're not a Schemer, please don't skip this post! :)
18:23 TR News; "If you're a Lisper, even if you're not a Schemer, please don't skip this post! :)" gemini://siiky.srht.site/scheme/alist-let.gmi
18:24 TR News; alist-let -- or maybe, plist? gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-22.alists.gmi
18:25 TR News; "Alright, this post will explain the various updates and changes added to The Camplog[1]. For those of you that have a keen eye, you might have seen that the source code was released yesterday. You can just grab it from The Camplog index page, served off right Gemini." gemini://altesq.net/~evenfire/posts/the-camplog-update.gmi
18:29 TR News; (NEW): SparkyLinux "LXQt" 6.4 | powered by debian https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/SparkyLinux_LXQt_6_4_powered_by_debian.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/SparkyLinux_LXQt_6_4_powered_by_debian.gmi
18:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines SparkyLinux "LXQt" 6.4 | powered by debian
18:31 TR News; Palo Alto Networks https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/22/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
18:31 TR Bot; CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
18:32 TR News; Remote notification https://grep.be/blog//en/computer/play/Remote_notification/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//grep.be/blog//en/computer/play/Remote_notification/
18:33 TR Bot; Remote notification
18:34 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation goes out of its way to help its sponsored/owners (like Microsoft) badmouth "Open Source" and legitimise the FUD by distracting from proprietary back doors https://venturebeat.com/security/dont-leave-open-source-open-to-vulnerabilities/
18:34 TR Bot; leave open source open to vulnerabilities | VentureBeat
18:38 TR News; "I was driving through the Jura on the weekend and I saw an interesting sign about Festi-Cheval on the road between Pontarlier and Houtard. Cheval is French for horse." https://danielpocock.com/horsing-around-festi-cheval-doubs/
18:38 TR Bot; Horsing around at Festi-Cheval, Houtard / Pontarlier
18:40 TR News; COVID-19 isnt gone. Reporting and reports about it are largely gone. The business elites have made up their minds; let the bodies pile up high (so that profits can resume). This is nihilism and gaslighting. It is a defeat, not a victory, and neglect of public health. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/22/piling-up-high/
18:40 TR Bot; Blog Archive Hiding the Reports to Hide the Bodies (That Pile Up High)
18:40 TR News; Content management systems that support several protocols (not just the World Wide Web or HTML) are something more people ought to look into; in our case, weve made our own and the code is tentatively public http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/code-going-public/
18:40 TR Bot; Going Public With New Site Code | Techrights
18:40 TR News; Data from the Web (about 3 million Web sites) helps reveal the decline of Windows, especially in regions where mobile devices have become ubiquitous http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/august-2022-share/
18:41 TR Bot; By August 2022 Windows Estimated to Have Secured Majority Market Share in Just a Couple Dozen Medium- or Large-Sized Nations (Android Dominates About 50) | Techrights
18:41 TR News; Linux used to be associated with ethics and honesty, but nowadays with the Linux Foundation it gets associated with scams, fraudulent diploma mills, and even pyramid schemes; how much more can the brand be devalued or diluted? http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/youtube-clickfraud/
18:41 TR Bot; Spamnil is Still Clickfrauding and the Linux Foundation Supports the Clickfraud | Techrights
18:41 TR News; EPO criminals Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos continue disregarding judges from the courts in Geneva and elsewhere; they metaphorically laugh at the law http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/iloat-rulings-disregarded/
18:41 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Has Failed to Comply With Straightforward ILOAT Ruling for Almost Two Months Already | Techrights
18:41 TR News; The corporate/mainstream media is not talking about it, but Windows loses market share very rapidly and in Russia it lost about 15% (relative) of its share in about 6 months http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/windows-loses-majority/
18:41 TR Bot; Russias Invasion of Ukraine Turns 6 Months; Windows Share in Russia Down Every Month Since Then (From Over 55% to 47%) | Techrights
18:42 TR News; The Internet is still universal and fairly diverse, but the Web is not http://techrights.org/2022/08/22/www-corporate-monoculture/
18:42 TR Bot; The Web is a Corporate Monoculture, Whereas Gemini is Still a Diverse Community | Techrights
18:43 TR News; Dignited has just helped Microsoft attack GNU/Linux with "WSL", which is technically a failure. Almost nobody uses it, but Dignited helps Microsoft some more. Sooner or later it'll be abandoned and dismantled, maybe even this year with those many Microsoft layoffs (about 20,000 staff).
18:52 TR News; How to Install Arch Linux From a GUI https://www.howtogeek.com/819494/install-arch-linux-from-gui/ Source: HowTo Geek | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.howtogeek.com/819494/install-arch-linux-from-gui/
18:52 TR Bot; How to Install Arch Linux From a GUI
18:53 TR News; More like putting a back door, not enhancing security. Microsoft works for NSA and makes things intentionally vulnerable. https://petri.com/microsoft-defender-endpoint-network-web-protection-macos-linux/
18:53 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://petri.com/microsoft-defender-endpoint-network-web-protection-macos-linux/ )
18:55 TR News; When Microsoft calls something security and keeps it entirely proprietary ask them what they're trying to hide. There's not even an audit.
18:58 TR News; Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.34 R(aku&ust) https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/08/22/2022-34-rakuust/
18:58 TR Bot; 2022.34 R(aku&ust) Rakudo Weekly News
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 77.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 109.13
19:02 TR News; Build an Awesome Nextcloud Server (Updated for Ubuntu 22.04!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5IUKE3oA7AY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/5IUKE3oA7AY
19:02 TR Bot; Build an Awesome Nextcloud Server (Updated for Ubuntu 22.04!) - Invidious
19:04 TR News; "The five most common problems when trying out an immutable Linux distro like NixOS. Plus, why one Linux dev says just target WINE." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149642/5-problems-with-nixos-linux-unplugged-472/
19:04 TR Bot; 5 Problems With NixOS | LINUX Unplugged 472 | Jupiter Broadcasting
19:05 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 22.10 May Disable GNOMEs New Device Security Panel https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Ubuntu_22_10_May_Disable_GNOME_s_New_Device_Security_Panel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Ubuntu_22_10_May_Disable_GNOME_s_New_Device_Security_Panel.gmi
19:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 22.10 May Disable GNOMEs New Device Security Panel
19:12 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
19:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
19:12 TR News; (NEW): Security: Patches, FUD, and Trojan Horses https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Security_Patches_FUD_and_Trojan_Horses.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Security_Patches_FUD_and_Trojan_Horses.gmi
19:12 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos " https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
19:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: Patches, FUD, and Trojan Horses
19:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
19:18 TR News; Kubernetes Spotlight on SIG Storage https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/08/22/sig-storage-spotlight/
19:18 TR Bot; Spotlight on SIG Storage | Kubernetes
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 TR News; How to Cast Your Android Screen onto Your Linux Desktop https://www.maketecheasier.com/cast-android-screen-linux-desktop/
19:20 TR Bot; How to Cast Your Android Screen onto Your Linux Desktop - Make Tech Easier
19:23 TR News; Mike Blumenkrantz: Sp33d https://www.supergoodcode.com/SP33D/
19:23 TR Bot; Sp33d Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
19:24 TR News; Spam disguised as "review" https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/agm-glory-g1s-phone/
19:24 TR Bot; AGM Glory G1S Android 11 Phone Review - Make Tech Easier
19:27 TR News; (NEW): 8 open source projects taking collaboration to the next level https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/8_open_source_projects_taking_collaboration_to_the_next_level.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/8_open_source_projects_taking_collaboration_to_the_next_level.gmi
19:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines 8 open source projects taking collaboration to the next level
19:30 TR News; Add support for the "max bpc" connector property (!2412) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2412
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19:30 TR Bot; Add support for the "max bpc" connector property (!2412) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab
19:32 TR News; Static network config with Debian Cloud images - Simon Josefssons blog https://blog.josefsson.org/2022/08/22/static-network-config-with-debian-cloud-images/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.josefsson.org/2022/08/22/static-network-config-with-debian-cloud-images/
19:32 TR Bot; Static network config with Debian Cloud images Simon Josefsson's blog
19:33 TR News; (NEW): public-inbox 1.9.0 released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/public_inbox_1_9_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/public_inbox_1_9_0_released.gmi
19:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines public-inbox 1.9.0 released
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19:51 DaemonFC; https://old.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/wuzdum/pearson_is_forcing_students_at_my_school_to_buy/
19:51 TR Bot; Pearson is forcing students at my school to buy an access code to their system (basically paying >$70 to turn in HW), and I was looking at the info regarding an optional included e-textbook and saw this : Piracy
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19:53 DaemonFC; <starstreak> if a company is expected to pay $60,000 for a wheel chair ramp, the legal precedent is pretty high
19:53 DaemonFC; Yeah, Penn & Teller's Bullshit did an episode on why the Americans With Disabilities Act is Bullshit.
19:54 DaemonFC; The most horrible part of it is that absolutely unreasonable formula that it has for determining how many handicapped spaces you need in your parking lot.
19:55 DaemonFC; You go to Walmart, there's over two dozen of them. Haven't counted. It's a lot.
19:55 DaemonFC; So what happens is people go pay their doctor to say there's something wrong with them so they get a better parking spot than everyone else.
19:55 DaemonFC; And then people who are really disabled usually end up having to walk even more.
19:56 DaemonFC; Then Walmart puts these motorized scooter carts all over the place, and they're not allowed to ask for proof you really need to be using one because it's against the law.
19:56 DaemonFC; And you see people driving them a half a mile and dumping them in someone else's parking lot when the battery is empty.
20:06 DaemonFC; The ADA is a well-intentioned law that has backfired.
20:06 DaemonFC; Parts of it have placed a burden on the economy that everyone has to pay for so that people can game the system and jump in front of disabled people.
20:07 DaemonFC; And the other parts (like Housing, Employment, and stuff) are almost unenforceable.
20:07 DaemonFC; The worst part about it is that it allows big business to get minimum wage exemptions and pay disabled people less than the legal minimum wage.
20:08 DaemonFC; Goodwill Industries does this and many people there make between $2-6 an hour while their CEO takes millions of dollars.
20:08 DaemonFC; They run a bunch of thrift shops, and most of what they sell isn't very good stuff. It's not like, gently used or anything.
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20:09 DaemonFC; A lot of the money comes from other activities, such as participating in the Social Security Ticket To Work program.
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20:11 starstreak; im not even talking about stuff in america either
20:11 starstreak; Ontario, Canada has its own laws
20:11 starstreak; https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h19
20:11 TR Bot; Document English View | Ontario.ca
20:12 starstreak; (2) No tribunal or court shall find a person incapable unless it is satisfied that the needs of the person cannot be accommodated without undue hardship on the person responsible for accommodating those needs, considering the cost, outside sources of funding, if any, and health and safety requirements, if any. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19, s. 17 (2); 1994, c. 27, s. 65 (2); 2002, c. 18, Sched. C, s. 3 (1); 2006, c. 30, s. 2 (1).
20:13 DaemonFC; The Government Accountability Office reviewed Social Security's Ticket To Work program and found that the costs exceeded the savings from disabled people leaving the Disability rolls, and that Social Security had wasted $806 million more than the savings between 2002-2015, and undoubtedly the program hasn't gotten better since then.
20:13 DaemonFC; So we're probably talking nearly $2 billion wasted and counting by now.
20:13 DaemonFC; <starstreak> Ontario, Canada has its own laws
20:13 DaemonFC; It's the same concept.
20:14 DaemonFC; The government wants to make it look like it's promoting fairness and opportunity.
20:14 DaemonFC; So it passes laws and then nobody is ever allowed to go back and ask any questions about results.
20:15 DaemonFC; Social Security blowing $2 billion more than savings on Ticket To Work in the past 20 years is small by the scale of the program, but it's clear that it's not working and that the reason they won't shut it down is because of lobbyists at government contractors who would lose too much money if they did.
20:15 DaemonFC; Like private prisons.
20:16 TR News; My dog ate my supply chain... something... https://puri.sm/posts/where-is-my-librem-5/
20:16 TR Bot; Where Is My Librem 5? Purism
20:16 DaemonFC; In 2011, they stopped allowing any new beneficiaries on the program to get their benefits by paper checks in the mail and a couple years later, required existing beneficiaries to change to Direct Deposit.
20:17 DaemonFC; They cited $1.5 million in savings per year in check printing costs. That's after accounting for the fact that they had to sign a contract with a bank (a really sleazy one btw) to manage government debit cards for people who had no bank account.
20:18 DaemonFC; Why was $1.5 million a year in check printing and mail costs so urgent, but a program called Ticket To Work that GAO says costs $50-100 million a year more than it's worth allowed to continue?
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20:19 DaemonFC; Certainly few will argue with government saving money by being more efficient, but TTW is bleeding the program in a year what nearly 100 years of mailing paper checks would cost.
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:20 DaemonFC; A lot of old people didn't like losing their paper checks. But the government also cited that they had to field phone calls and police reports about people's Social Security checks being stolen out of the mail.
20:20 TR News; (NEW): Manjaro vs. EndeavourOS: Comparing the Two Major Arch-Based Distros https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Manjaro_vs_EndeavourOS_Comparing_the_Two_Major_Arch_Based_Distr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Manjaro_vs_EndeavourOS_Comparing_the_Two_Major_Arch_Based_Distr.gmi
20:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Manjaro vs. EndeavourOS: Comparing the Two Major Arch-Based Distros
20:21 DaemonFC; Someone I lived with for a while got mad at me and moved out. He was on Social Security for a mental health disorder.
20:22 DaemonFC; He went to the local police and said I stole his social security check out of the mail. I showed the cop an article from the Social Security Administration saying that nobody was allowed to have a paper check in the mail "since about a year ago" so I wondered how I would have done that.
20:23 DaemonFC; That's why it's dangerous to try to be in a relationship with someone.
20:23 DaemonFC; About half of them go to the police looking for revenge, cooking up a story.
20:23 DaemonFC; It's the easiest way to get rid of you and to spite you.
20:24 DaemonFC; Bury you 6 feet under with court problems.
20:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, ^
20:24 mjg59_; Weird, literally 0 people I've had a relationship with have gone to the police looking for revenge
20:25 DaemonFC; Oh you just haven't found the right ones yet, Matt.
20:25 DaemonFC; I'm sure if you keep looking, you'll find one.
20:25 DaemonFC; This one couldn't even tell a lie that held up for five minutes.
20:26 mjg59_; Maybe this is a you thing rather than a general thing?
20:27 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So, the interesting thing is that the police in that state tried to prompt him into making a rape accusation.
20:27 DaemonFC; Unprompted, too.
20:27 DaemonFC; You know like, the cop brings it up and then when he says, "No, he never did that!".
20:27 DaemonFC; The cop goes, "ARE YOU SURE?" Like, we can hurt this guy so much more if you make up THAT lie. It's okay, we'll help you!
20:28 TR News; (NEW): Alternatives MPD clients to GMPC https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Alternatives_MPD_clients_to_GMPC.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Alternatives_MPD_clients_to_GMPC.gmi
20:28 TR Bot; Tux Machines Alternatives MPD clients to GMPC
20:28 DaemonFC; I was reading the report and I got to that part and I'm sure I was so angry my face was red and steam was coming out of my ears.
20:28 DaemonFC; The police detective was trying to frame me for rape even though nobody had said rape, and in fact had said "No, we had sex but it was always consensual.".
20:29 DaemonFC; The cops are homophobes, mjg59_
20:29 TR News; "Torvalds once again downplayed the significance of the release." https://www.makeuseof.com/linux-60-release-candidate-2-released/
20:29 TR Bot; Linux Kernel Development Zooms Along With 6.0 Release Candidate 2
20:29 starstreak; mjg59_, i agree
20:29 DaemonFC; They figure out you're gay, they go after you. They help people trump up false reports.
20:29 techuser; cuddlybear66: ^ something sex/family-related again, I guess? Maybe just check this channel regularly and I don't ping you anymore
20:30 DaemonFC; I suppose it's my failt for just refusing to have anything to do with people like this when the warning signs were there, in retrospect.
20:30 DaemonFC; But nobody deserves to have false accusations against them.
20:30 DaemonFC; It's just a way for unscrupulous people to abuse the system.
20:31 TR News; My podman journey so far | IT-Hure <p><img src="/Features/" class="feature" align="left" width="" height="" alt="" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" href="https://www.it-hure.de/2022/08/my-podman-journey-so-far/">Read on</a>
20:31 TR Bot; My podman journey so far | IT-Hure
20:31 DaemonFC; mjg59_, You don't even have to be gay. Sometimes it just amuses the police to drive someone to suicide.
20:31 DaemonFC; See Ian Murdock.
20:32 DaemonFC; They're really bad people.
20:32 starstreak; cops hate you even more if you
20:32 starstreak; are trans
20:32 DaemonFC; They're just especially bad to gay people because in addition to being thugs and assholes, they're homophobic too.
20:32 schestowitz[TR]; it is common in these occupations
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; also army and secret agencies
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; there were many reportes some years ago about cia being abusive to gayts
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; gchq and similar agencies also
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; they later do rainbow pinkwashing campaigns
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; to distract you from the actual truthh
20:33 schestowitz[TR]; while they drive out any potential recruit who is gay, trans, etc.
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; it doesn't fir in with their clique
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; you may not like doughnut
20:34 DaemonFC; mjg59_, schestowitz[TR] watched them beat an old man in the street the other day iirc.
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; but you must "have a dick and want pussy" (yes, they are bad to women too)
20:34 DaemonFC; The guy didn't even do anything. The cop just felt like kicking the guy's ass.
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; cops are very often wife beaters
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; on the beat, they are getting hit and hit people
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; so they bring that hope too
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; never mind the kids..
20:34 schestowitz[TR]; if you are "soft", you do not survive in this job
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: yes, I wish I knew more
20:35 mjg59_; Hey, I'm firmly on team ACAB
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; I don't even know why some many cops came here
20:35 schestowitz[TR]; like 40 of them
20:36 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So you agree that when I read that report and it clearly showed that the cop was trying to invent rape charges where none existed, and then tried to get the person complaining about me who said "We had sex, but it was consensual." to say "rape", that ACAB.
20:36 DaemonFC; Even that one?
20:36 DaemonFC; Especially that one?
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; swedish cops did this
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; with FBI communicating with them
20:37 DaemonFC; I wouldn't even wish that on you Matt.
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; they did this to assange
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; they look for people you slept with
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; then bribe or blackmail them
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; and they get false confessions
20:37 DaemonFC; You know what the crazy thing is Matt?
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; in sweden they do not torture yet, not directly anyway
20:37 DaemonFC; I went to bed thinking everything was fine.
20:37 DaemonFC; We hadn't had any arguments, any disagreements, nothing.
20:37 schestowitz[TR]; they do cia "rendition flights"
20:38 DaemonFC; Then I woke up with the door propped wide open. For some reason, my cat was still in the apartment and didn't bolt.
20:38 DaemonFC; And I closed it and figured "well, he left me in the middle of the night".
20:38 DaemonFC; "Worse things have happened. Oh well."
20:39 DaemonFC; I later found out that his parents had disowned him (he was 19 and I was like 24, so before we even get into that mess.....) for being gay and moving in with me.
20:39 DaemonFC; So he concocted a story where I was "abusive" so that they would let him move back in with them.
20:40 DaemonFC; He was angry because they had told him he was "cut off" and they "aren't going to pay for your tuition anymore".
20:40 DaemonFC; So next thing I know, he's down at the cop station pulling shit out of his ass to further that story.
20:40 DaemonFC; And that's when THE COP suggested a false rape accusation.
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: and then you talk about sex dolls
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; with a woman partner yoiu could deal with
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; 1) pregnancy
20:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, should've would've could've.
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; 2) claim of pregnnacy
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; 3) someone ele's fetus
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; and more
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; STDs etc.
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; and police would be more attenstive
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; they don't give a s* about gays
20:41 schestowitz[TR]; they just hit "quotas"
20:42 DaemonFC; Yeah, I realized that all they hit me with were some minor misdemeanors and I didn't even get convicted in the end.
20:42 DaemonFC; They wanted rid of me from the start.
20:42 DaemonFC; A woman goes in and complains, you have a domestic violence felony about 2.3 seconds later.
20:43 starstreak; I learned the hard way that cops will side with a gay person over a trans person
20:43 DaemonFC; I'm expunging my court record now.
20:43 DaemonFC; I got my gun permit back from the state police.
20:43 DaemonFC; They asked the prosecutor, prosecutor said "No objection.".
20:43 DaemonFC; REALLY!
20:44 DaemonFC; Last year I was a danger to the state and its people and a flight risk and you wanted my passport.
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; SCOTUS <3 gunnnnzzz
20:44 DaemonFC; This year, I get my gun permit back. "No comment!"
20:44 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: did you use your passport just for mexico?
20:45 DaemonFC; I have a passport. I got one when Trump won the election.
20:45 DaemonFC; Never used it.
20:45 schestowitz[TR]; better pass port than pass away
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; passport are an ancient and dumb system
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; they are still easy to trick
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; still a suisance
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; expensive too
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; and misused politically
20:46 schestowitz[TR]; they're not "the best we have"
20:47 DaemonFC; Yeah, they canceled Snowden's after he got to Russia to strand him there and embarrass and discredit him.
20:47 TR News; Star Wars-themed device monitors indoor environmental conditions | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/22/star-wars-themed-device-monitors-indoor-environmental-conditions/ Source: Arduino
20:47 TR Bot; Star Wars-themed device monitors indoor environmental conditions | Arduino Blog
20:47 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: iirc, he nwas going to cuba
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; or via cuba
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; to a nearby state
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; assange had weaponised against hinm several passports
20:48 schestowitz[TR]; ecuador and aussie
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; we cannot assume governments exist to protect their own citizens
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; worse yet, sometimes they
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; execute them
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; for political reasons
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; torture them
20:49 DaemonFC; No, governments exist to protect and expand their own power.
20:49 DaemonFC; And to exploit their own citizens.
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; or lett another nation do those former two things
20:49 schestowitz[TR]; even "civlised" ausstralia
20:50 DaemonFC; You're worth to them, meh, whatever value you can add to the economy, and then they extract half of it in taxes.
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; right, orre or less
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; *mo0re
20:50 DaemonFC; With a bigger population, each person is worth less and less.
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; wait, no
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; it's relative
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; you could say gdp (per capita)
20:50 schestowitz[TR]; or assets per citizen
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; russia is a very large nation
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; with sparse population ocupying it
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; more so canada
20:51 DaemonFC; If they had no pause in destroying a millionaire (Ian Murdock) they'll destroy me too.
20:51 DaemonFC; They've tried repeatedly.
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; per capita, russia is VERY powerful
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; unlike china
20:51 schestowitz[TR]; USA is twice the population size
20:51 MinceR; https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/oots/images/6/62/OOTS1043.png/revision/latest?cb=20160830193039
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I heard from someone murdock was already suicidal before
20:52 DaemonFC; There's a lot of US citizens who hate the government.
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; or contemplated it in the past
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20:52 DaemonFC; Many of them hate it even more than I do.
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; and his wife debbie was aware
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; but the cops drove him off the edge
20:52 schestowitz[TR]; because he knocked on the wrong door or something after getting locked out of his own home
20:53 DaemonFC; That's all it takes.
20:53 DaemonFC; One False Move
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; someone reported him
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; by phone
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; for (iirc) trying to get in
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; maybe for trying to break back into his own home
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; around xmas time
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; after he had had a few drinks
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; which might explain why he locked himself out
20:53 schestowitz[TR]; the police got a call
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; presumed it was a criminalk
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; no questioin asked
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; and came for a fight
20:54 DaemonFC; Breaking into your own home isn't illegal, but yes, someone may report you and the police will likely arrest you while they figure out what's going on.
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; not for investigation
20:54 DaemonFC; Be glad if that's all they do.
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; "why are you here? what are you doing?"
20:54 mjg59_; They got divorced years before he died
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; like the thugs (copps) whop came here
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; randomly attacking some bald man
20:54 schestowitz[TR]; and opunching him for no reason at all
20:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], There's no reason to be suicidal. Everyone dies eventually.
20:55 DaemonFC; Why give the people who want me dead the satisfaction?
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; social constructs
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; shame
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; better move to the woods
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; then killing onself
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20:55 DaemonFC; There's no good reason for feeling shame.
20:55 schestowitz[TR]; you might even like it a bit
20:55 DaemonFC; Turn it off.
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; *then
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; >then
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; >than
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; very bad typo
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; I meant, move to the woods
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; and try again at life
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; there are many ways to "reset"
20:56 schestowitz[TR]; even if society frowns upon them
20:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I thought about that.
20:57 DaemonFC; Apparently, it's very easy to become a resident of South Dakota, at least on paper.
20:57 schestowitz[TR]; suicide is waste of life and sad momma
20:58 techuser; pro-life shit?
20:58 schestowitz[TR]; pro-life is shit
20:58 schestowitz[TR]; it's code
20:58 techuser; imho, it is my life, and fuck the ones who think it is their
20:58 schestowitz[TR]; for pro-uterus
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; the pro-life crown does not value actual life
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; *crowd
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 141.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 112.33
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; they stroke their own ego with self-righteousness
20:59 schestowitz[TR]; by making women miserable
21:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm thinking of setting up legal residency in South Dakota and changing my driver's license to that.
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; it's cold there
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; and expensive
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; prices soared there
21:00 DaemonFC; You don't actually have to live there.
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; because oligarchs stashed their cash there
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; and bought "estate"
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, sd is where house prices went up the most
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; or maybe wyoming
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; it became rich people's "retreat"\
21:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm considering moving us to downstate Illinois.
21:01 DaemonFC; The rental market down there has nosedived.
21:01 schestowitz[TR]; maybe for bad reasons
21:01 DaemonFC; You can get an apartment the size of ours for about 40% less down there.
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; but why?
21:02 DaemonFC; Economy is not great.
21:02 DaemonFC; It's Illinois. The Democrats have ruined it.
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; if you don't work, it's OK
21:02 DaemonFC; There's a Walmart down there.
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; you can live in a place without living wages
21:02 schestowitz[TR]; if you don't look for work
21:03 DaemonFC; I make the same amount whether I live here or there.
21:03 DaemonFC; From what I can gather, it's sort of like rural Indiana.
21:03 DaemonFC; It's poor, but not violent.
21:03 DaemonFC; Chicago is like Mad Max.
21:04 DaemonFC; Mayor Beetlejuice is closing down the city to let NASCAR race through it while they're shooting everyone.
21:04 DaemonFC; They ought to just have a race with all of the carjacked vehicles being chased by the cops like every other day.
21:06 DaemonFC; Everything in this country is failing and the news is still questioning if we're in a recesssion or not.
21:06 DaemonFC; Like, it's failing right in front of anyone with a set of eyes.
21:06 DaemonFC; I was talking to mom about how dumb people are now.
21:08 DaemonFC; She said she had a bunch of quarters weighing down her purse the other day, and she owed Starbucks $6.37, so she handed them two Dollar coins, 16 quarters, and 7 nickels and 2 pennies.
21:08 DaemonFC; The guy couldn't count it.
21:08 DaemonFC; First, he says "I don't know what these are." about the Dollar coins, which they still produce and still give you at the bank and as change in some vending machines.
21:09 DaemonFC; "I'll have to ask my manager if we can take these."
21:09 DaemonFC; Then he strugled to get that 16 quarters are the next four dollars.
21:09 DaemonFC; Then he said out loud "I'd better be careful not to confuse the nickels with the quarters again.".
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; chicago is dick treacy
21:10 DaemonFC; By this time there's like cars wrapped around the building.
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; tracy
21:10 DaemonFC; And these folks want a labor union.
21:10 DaemonFC; What's mjg59_'s opinion about that?
21:10 DaemonFC; That's the majority of high school graduates these days.
21:10 DaemonFC; Where someone like Mandy can come here and he's smarter than anyone he works with.
21:10 DaemonFC; That's why our economy is failing.
21:10 DaemonFC; That's why everything is failing.
21:11 DaemonFC; Walmart can't keep anyone. Either they find them having an orgy in the bathroom or they find their Loss Prevention person stealing things.
21:11 DaemonFC; If it's not that, they hire people and they either won't work or aren't smart enough to use a computer and grab things off a shelf.
21:13 DaemonFC; The police want to make my life impossible. Fine. Well, fuck this country and fuck them.
21:14 DaemonFC; So I don't feel like I owe this place anything, schestowitz[TR]
21:14 DaemonFC; I really don't.
21:14 DaemonFC; If some foreign government managed to invade the United States at this point, I'd try to flee into Canada or something.
21:14 DaemonFC; I'd never do what people in Ukraine are doing. Pick up a rifle and try to drive them out.
21:15 DaemonFC; I can't see how things would get much worse for most people in the US under an occupation, even by Russia, were that possible.
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21:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], My dad tried explaining the concept of "My country, right or wrong." one time.
21:16 DaemonFC; At this point, my opinion is "Bullshit! cya!".
21:16 DaemonFC; Like, all this government does is prey upon me like some kind of a damned vampire.
21:17 DaemonFC; They knock you down. You give up trying to do anything the right way and just start trying to live.
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21:18 DaemonFC; Whatever *I* have to do to survive. I don't really even care what happens to this country anymore. It's not like I could save it if I wanted to. You have degenerates running everything.
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; people who care less are better off
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; they are not emoptionally attached
21:19 DaemonFC; The US is backsliding. It's a third world country for most of its citizens now.
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; being detahced can also be bad
21:19 schestowitz[TR]; but detached from those weho discard you is OK
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21:20 schestowitz[TR]; if they don't love you, don't love them 'back'
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; or you're in for disappointing surprise
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; the media glaslights people
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; calls them lazy
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; and incites people against t henm
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; lazy, drunk, criminal
21:20 schestowitz[TR]; that's how it treats the vulnerable
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; shaming them
21:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], "Quiet Quitting" have you heard this shit now?
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; isolating them
21:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, they attack people who have a job but aren't doing well because they aren't paid very much.
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; some people travel to the us
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; like mjg59_
21:21 schestowitz[TR]; for the salaries
21:21 DaemonFC; Yeah, he has no attachment to it.
21:22 DaemonFC; No "loyalty".
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; between him and sarah micheller gellar maybe 200k a year
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; and no way to meaningfully spend the money
21:22 schestowitz[TR]; except taking lawyers to rub up critics
21:22 DaemonFC; They just let him in as a foreign worker, and that's about it, because it's cheaper to pay him than it is to educate us.
21:22 DaemonFC; He's another form of parasite.
21:22 DaemonFC; The H1-B
21:23 heureka; you're crazy
21:23 mjg59_; Yeah, zero attachment other than voluntarily becoming a citizen
21:23 mjg59_; Ensuring that I have to file US tax returns for the rest of my life, even if I leave the US
21:23 DaemonFC; No you don't.
21:23 schestowitz[TR]; but you are dual
21:23 DaemonFC; You can bug out and hand in a resignation paper.
21:23 schestowitz[TR]; you an concede it
21:23 schestowitz[TR]; *can
21:23 DaemonFC; You have no long term reason to stay loyal to the US.
21:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, Bogus Johnson was an American too.
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21:24 DaemonFC; He got rid of it after the IRS taxed him for selling a house in London.
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21:24 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is a "citizen" like that.
21:24 mjg59_; I can pay to renounce my citizenship, and then pay a shitload of tax as a one-off event
21:25 mjg59_; Or I could just never have become a citizen
21:25 DaemonFC; People who can just jump on a plane and get rid of their US citizenship aren't Americans.
21:25 DaemonFC; Not in my book.
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; hmmm.. no videos from spamnil in 4 days. duig gulag suspend his channel?
21:25 schestowitz[TR]; *did
21:25 DaemonFC; Get rid of your "backstop" and you'll be an American.
21:25 DaemonFC; How's that, Matt?
21:25 mjg59_; Logically incoherent
21:25 DaemonFC; How so?
21:26 DaemonFC; If you have a bug out bag, you're not loyal.
21:26 DaemonFC; You have one foot in and one foot out, just in case.
21:26 DaemonFC; How's that an incorrect assessment?
21:26 DaemonFC; Please clue me in here.
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.irishcentral.com/news/cia-head-john-brennan-plans-to-retire-in-ireland-say-irish-cousins-186292732-237557741
21:26 TR Bot; head John Brennan plans to retire in Ireland say Irish cousins | IrishCentral.com
21:26 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/new-cia-boss-plans-to-retire-in-ireland-once-his-term-ends-29012638.html
21:26 TR Bot; CIA boss plans to retire in Ireland once his term ends - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
21:26 DaemonFC; People with no skin in the game saying "We're just like you!".
21:27 DaemonFC; Oh really, stuck here no matter what happens?
21:27 DaemonFC; You're "just like me". Everyone has a spare citizenship just in case, you know.
21:27 DaemonFC; I do, apparently. I'd like to know where it is.
21:27 DaemonFC; Maybe I left it in my other pants.
21:27 mjg59_; US citizens have multiple options for residing outside the US
21:28 mjg59_; So are US citizens who have no passports more loyal than US citizens who do?
21:28 DaemonFC; My only other options would be to live in a territory, which is worse.
21:28 mjg59_; Are US citizens who marry foreign citizens less loyal than ones who don't?
21:28 DaemonFC; I'd still owe the IRS, but I wouldn't be allowed to vote, and I'd be living somewhere they don't take care of because nobody can vote.
21:29 DaemonFC; The United States pretty much fucked the Philippines.
21:29 DaemonFC; But it was a long line.
21:29 DaemonFC; The Japanese were treating them worse.
21:29 DaemonFC; So isn't it relative?
21:29 mjg59_; If the claim is fundamentally about having exit options, then it's not merely giving up other citizenship that's important
21:30 mjg59_; So yeah, the argument about dual citizenship is logically incoherent
21:30 DaemonFC; Most places don't like immigrants unless they have a boatload of cash, Matt.
21:30 DaemonFC; The USCIS let that guy who did GirlsDoPorn buy citizenship in the US.
21:31 DaemonFC; Then he proceeded to use it to do illegal sex trafficking, rape, and rape of several underage girls, before committing bankruptcy fraud, then having them find out about all the criminal shit, and giving up and fleeing to New Zealand.
21:31 mjg59_; If your claim is that any US citizen who has a mechanism to live somewhere outside the US is less loyal than one who doesn't, then that's a coherent argument
21:31 DaemonFC; We think he's in New Zealand anyway.
21:31 DaemonFC; They're harboring him.
21:32 DaemonFC; But they don't bash people like that, they bash "brown" people who speak "foreign" languages.
21:32 mjg59_; But then it's not just about dual citizenship
21:32 DaemonFC; So, you're saying they let you in easily, but that obviously doesn't mean much.
21:32 DaemonFC; You showed them you could make money or that you have money.
21:32 DaemonFC; And that's all they really look at.
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; not "officially"
21:33 DaemonFC; Unofficially it is.
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's the same here
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; you can even buy a football team
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; if you re BFF of Putin
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; or you are a high-profile terrorist ()NUFC)
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; if you are a total fraud and vulture capitalist
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; and raiders of nations
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; it's about money
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; but never "officially"
21:34 DaemonFC; Most people who try to immigrate to the US aren't just waved through like GAFAM or the GirlsDoPorn guy.
21:35 mjg59_; "Waved through"?
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/29/new-zealand-gave-peter-thiel-citizenship-after-spending-just-12-days-there
21:35 TR Bot; New Zealand gave Peter Thiel citizenship after he spent just 12 days there | New Zealand | The Guardian
21:35 DaemonFC; They're viciously attacked, thrown in immigration prisons where they await court dates that never come and are raped to death by ICE.
21:35 DaemonFC; Which Google has contracts with, and so does Microsoft.
21:35 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/29/new-zealand-releases-peter-thiel-citizenship-details.html
21:35 TR Bot; New Zealand releases Peter Thiel citizenship details
21:35 DaemonFC; Yeah, our entire immigration system is sickening.
21:36 DaemonFC; Look at what they let in and look at what they do to the people who need our help.
21:36 DaemonFC; It's all about who has money or not.
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; it was funny when we went ti ireland just before covid and they stopped everyone at immigration, with mine he looked at the password and said "doctor..." then let us through fast, no more questions
21:37 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, I'll have you know that I had to move Heaven and Earth.
21:37 DaemonFC; That's the hill they make us climb down there.
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; *passport
21:37 DaemonFC; Doctor Who?
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; 10 years ago there was a high-profile case in england about financial requirements
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; for visas
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; it was something like 188k a year for a dependent
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; for a couple
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; 18k
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; and this was challenged all the way up
21:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Yes, there are minimum income requirements here, schestowitz[TR]
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; I think they were forced to remove this financial contrainet afer that, but just "officially"
21:38 DaemonFC; But the more the better.
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; they can still disseminate based on these bases/basis
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; it was some arab name in the case's name
21:39 DaemonFC; There are several ways you are allowed to calculate income for that form, and they lead you to use the one that usually results in the lowest figure.
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21:39 DaemonFC; I ran the numbers all three ways and chose the highest.
21:39 DaemonFC; Using the lowest figure results in more denials based on household income.
21:39 DaemonFC; So if they can trick you into doing it that way, they can just say no right there before the interview.
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; I haven't been keeping track, but maybe not a dependant need the "sponsor" to be at like 30k+
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; which means 9 to 5 demanding job
21:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It's tricky.
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; no introverts
21:40 DaemonFC; You need to show a minimum of 150% of FPL for your household size but they can still say you're likely to need welfare later and deny it.
21:40 DaemonFC; So there's rules and there's rules.
21:41 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You're not a UK citizen?
21:41 DaemonFC; And of course, leading the person to put down less income makes it easier for them to say "likely to become public charge".
21:41 DaemonFC; So I didn't fall for that.
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; ireland is not uk
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; northern ireland is
21:41 mjg59_; Yes, I know
21:41 DaemonFC; There's three things that help you when you're sponsoring your spouse and you don't have a lot of money.
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; they still check passports
21:41 DaemonFC; 1. Don't take any welfare even if you qualify for it.
21:41 mjg59_; But the UK and Ireland have a common travel area
21:42 DaemonFC; 2. Use the calculation that results in the highest income you can put down on the form.
21:42 mjg59_; You don't need a passport to enter Ireland from the UK if you're a UK citizen
21:42 DaemonFC; 3. Don't have any kids.
21:42 mjg59_; They may check it at security, but there's no immigration requirement
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; they don't know peokple'e nationality
21:42 DaemonFC; Kids don't produce income but they do mean you have to find more or else your form will be rejected!
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; so they need passports
21:42 mjg59_; And if you present a UK passport, they can't refuse you entry
21:42 DaemonFC; Kids hurt you worse than just being low income on the I-864.
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: you forget the spouse
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; she is applying next next
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, back to tech now
21:43 DaemonFC; Because each one adds like $14,000 you need to go find somewhere just to be level with the income requirements, even though the kids aren't working.
21:43 mjg59_; Because your passport said "Doctor" they let her in?
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; *next month
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: they sped things up
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: ^
21:43 mjg59_; Also, where does your passport say "Doctor"?
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; the name
21:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That means if you are a straight couple that is married an applying for a Green Card and barely pass the income test......
21:44 DaemonFC; USE BIRTH CONTROL! Or get an abortion.
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, now it boils down to personal things
21:44 DaemonFC; Just do not have any kids before your initial meeting.
21:44 DaemonFC; They're not allowed to speculate on if you might have kids later.
21:44 DaemonFC; But if you already do, that adds a lot of money that you'll need to show them.
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; I know people who foolishly upload passports and visas to FB
21:44 mjg59_; Oh right yes it's in the observations field
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; that's how dumb some people are
21:44 mjg59_; Not on the actual information page
21:44 DaemonFC; so mjg59_ asked if it's all about money for immigration and it is.....
21:45 DaemonFC; If you get your wife pregnant before the Green Card interview, she'll need to get an abortion so they won't deny the green card.
21:45 DaemonFC; Nice, huh?
21:46 DaemonFC; Don't get pregnant until after the interview, preferably not until after the second interview, but certainly not until they've accepted the I-864 at the first one.
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21:49 DaemonFC; The absolute minimum income you can put on an I-864 for a spouse if you have no children together is apparently 125% of FPL or $22,887.10, but you're still likely to get declined if it's close to that. If you add one child, then you need a bare minimum of $28,787.50 and for two children it's a minimum of $34,687. But from what I was advised, they really want to see a minimum of 1.5 or better, 2.0, so yeah.
21:49 DaemonFC; If you're just scraping, it pressures you to get an abortion if you accidentally get your spouse pregnant during the couple years it takes them to get around to calling you in.
21:50 DaemonFC; Because you'll have an infant and it just adds to their financial demands of your household. Which is bizarre, really.
21:51 DaemonFC; They can deny your case based on income, leave you as a single dad, and send your wife back where she came from.
21:51 DaemonFC; And make sure you need all sorts of welfare.
21:51 Helenah; Cancer pain :(
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21:52 DaemonFC; We just had a string of luck, really.
21:52 DaemonFC; We ran into a nice immigration agent who went ahead and accepted what I put down on the paperwork and ruled that we were unlikely to use any programs.
21:53 DaemonFC; They don't have to prove that you will use programs.
21:53 DaemonFC; They can just _say_ that you might and deny your case.
21:53 Helenah; Sorry to hear about your abortion. :(
21:53 *Helenah huggles
21:53 Helenah; Damn I'm sore...
21:53 Helenah; Why me?
21:53 DaemonFC; Oh, I was just using an example of how twisted our system is.
21:54 DaemonFC; I'm married to another man.
21:54 Helenah; Why do I have to be the DNA fuckup?
21:54 DaemonFC; So I think my argument that we weren't going to have any kids wasn't questioned.
21:54 MinceR; this concept of being loyal to a state is laughable
21:54 MinceR; which state isn't a massive fuckup?
21:54 *Helenah cuddles up to MinceR on the couch
21:54 Helenah; Sorry...
21:54 Helenah; Just needed some er...
21:54 Helenah; Fun time...
21:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'd be more loyal to the state if I felt the state had any loyalty whatsoever to me.
21:54 Helenah; cause...
21:54 DaemonFC; Errr.... MinceR ^
21:55 Helenah; er...
21:55 Helenah; nvm
21:55 Helenah; :/
21:55 Helenah; "Pain"
21:55 Helenah; o.o
21:55 MinceR; DaemonFC: yeah, and if my grandfather went on wheels and had a bell, he would have been a tram.
21:55 DaemonFC; About the only thing the state does is rip me off and watch me squirm and occasionally falsify criminal charges or something.
21:55 DaemonFC; Why in God's name would that inspire loyalty?
21:55 Helenah; o.o
21:55 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-20-21-08-22
21:55 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 20-21 Telegraph
21:56 techuser; Helenah: another reason not to give birth to children (also ping cuddlybear66)
21:56 Helenah; techuser: Pain?
21:56 Helenah; o.o
21:56 techuser; DNA fuckups
21:56 Helenah; I can't reproduce...
21:56 DaemonFC; People should go on a reproductive strike against the state.
21:56 Helenah; I'm a fuckup
21:56 cuddlybear66; hii
21:56 Helenah; completely
21:56 DaemonFC; Until OUR needs are being met, no kids.
21:56 DaemonFC; NONE
21:56 Helenah; on a genetical level...
21:56 MinceR; the fact that the children's life is guaranteed to be mostly suffering
21:56 Helenah; COMPLETE SCREW UP
21:56 DaemonFC; That might rattle them.
21:56 cuddlybear66; I don't think pain rly matters when ur giving birth
21:56 cuddlybear66; I mean sure it's gonna hurt but it's worth it
21:57 Helenah; cuddlybear66: You produce pain relief and a tunnel vision
21:57 Helenah; and also
21:57 MinceR; life doesn't have much else in store for them than pain
21:57 Helenah; there is this forgetfulness you develop
21:57 MinceR; or should i say, human society
21:57 techuser; Helenah has cancer, idk if it is caused by bad genes
21:57 Helenah; to protect you from the memory of the pain
21:57 DaemonFC; The state is obviously panicking about birth rates or it wouldn't be trying to make abortion illegal.
21:57 Helenah; So it really doesn't matter
21:57 Helenah; like you said
21:57 Helenah; techuser: I'm a FUCKUP
21:57 TR News; (NEW): Linux adds drivers for pureLiFi https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Linux_adds_drivers_for_pureLiFi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Linux_adds_drivers_for_pureLiFi.gmi
21:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux adds drivers for pureLiFi
21:57 Helenah; Too many damn DNA faults in my body...
21:57 Helenah; o.O
21:57 Helenah; I spoke of a few of them... with people
21:58 techuser; I think I also have some bad genes
21:58 DaemonFC; The state is in conflict with itself. Part of it wants to make abortion access easy and part of it wants a complete ban, and for now the complete ban side is winning more of the battles than the completely legal side is.
21:58 Helenah; Ones related to my cancer, ones related to why I can't reproduce, etc, etc.
21:58 Helenah; I'm screwed...
21:58 Helenah; techuser: Some?
21:58 Helenah; You don't know what happened, do you?
21:58 DaemonFC; But even though there's conflict within the state on the issue of abortion, both sides have evil reasons for it.
21:58 Helenah; This is a WHOLE 2 chromosomes
21:58 Helenah; affected
21:58 Helenah; and then...
21:58 Helenah; other chromosomes affected too
21:58 techuser; yes, probably not as bad as you
21:58 Helenah; It isn't "some"
21:58 techuser; oh, I see
21:59 Helenah; And sheesh
21:59 Helenah; Why do I keep developing conditions?!
21:59 DaemonFC; The side that wants on demand abortion sees every person as just being "carbon emissions" and the side that wants no abortions at all wants too many people so wages will go down while people have dirt floors.
21:59 TR News; So-called "Dirty Pipe"was not so severe; there was a lot of misleading media hype at the time https://thehackernews.com/2022/08/as-nasty-as-dirty-pipe-8-year-old-linux.html
21:59 TR Bot; "As Nasty as Dirty Pipe" 8 Year Old Linux Kernel Vulnerability Uncovered
21:59 Helenah; WHEN WILL IT STOP!!!
21:59 Helenah; Should I shoot myself?
21:59 Helenah; :/
21:59 Helenah; pfft
21:59 techuser; cuddlybear66: are you sure you giving birth won't result in something like this?
21:59 cuddlybear66; well I'm healthy...
22:00 cuddlybear66; I think that's pretty much all that matters right?
22:00 Helenah; cuddlybear66: So are my parents
22:00 Helenah; Yet I'm fucked up like hell...
22:00 cuddlybear66;
22:00 cuddlybear66; yeah but.. dunno
22:00 cuddlybear66; the chances aren't super big
22:00 Helenah; True, just saying. :3
22:00 cuddlybear66; hundreds of thousands perfectly healthy babies r born every day
22:01 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ACAB and yet he figures like everyone who knows ACAB and the courts are kabuki theater, that if they accuse someone of something, there must be something to it. Or at least that's how it comes across to me.
22:01 techuser; do perfectly healthy humans even exist?
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; cuddlybear66: it's a shame when they grow up into a cruel world
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; where 8000+ million now face hunger, up from 100+ just years ago
22:01 techuser; or maybe at least, perfectly healthly adults
22:01 DaemonFC; There's no reason for me to inflict this country on a new generation.
22:01 cuddlybear66; ikr
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; I meant 800+
22:02 schestowitz[TR]; according to new UN statement
22:02 DaemonFC; All of the problems that I'm living with today are getting worse, not better.
22:02 schestowitz[TR]; if there isa cnuclear war, 8000 million will face risk of hunger
22:02 DaemonFC; The world is operated by billionaires in their 80s and 90s.
22:02 DaemonFC; And most people just one generation younger than me can't count change.
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; IUheard that
22:03 techuser; what will happen once these people die?
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; many other things they cannopt "get"
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; aside fromm hisptorical things
22:03 techuser; be replaced by their kids?
22:03 DaemonFC; Their money goes to other people who never worked as generational wealth.
22:03 DaemonFC; Untaxed.
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; when people in their 90s die
22:03 DaemonFC; And we get more people who are just as bad as they were.
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; the oligarchs in their 60s (now) replace then
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; so foer people in the 20s now to count in the world and decide things can take 40-60 more years
22:04 schestowitz[TR]; if we last this long as civilisation
22:04 techuser; for how much time did such government exist?
22:05 DaemonFC; Rich people running everything? Always. There was a short time in the US where the working class got some of their own wealth.
22:05 TR News; "Playing with Arduinos, a 1337 h4x0r tool, ChromeOS Flex, a proprietary software win, whether open-sourcing AI makes sense, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-191/
22:05 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 191 Late Night Linux
22:05 DaemonFC; But that was mostly for a few decades in the 20th century.
22:05 DaemonFC; They did that to the extent it was needed to control the spread of Communism.
22:05 DaemonFC; Then they took it away.
22:05 techuser; so why can the civilization disappear?
22:05 techuser; self-destruct
22:06 TR News; Puff piece for proprietary software https://containerjournal.com/features/granulate-tool-automatically-rightsizes-kubernetes-workloads/
22:06 TR Bot; Granulate Tool Automatically Rightsizes Kubernetes Workloads - Container Journal
22:06 DaemonFC; People point at the 1980s as the beginning of the end for the working class sharing in their own wealth but it was really the 1970s.
22:06 DaemonFC; Specifically the burst of hyperinflation.
22:07 DaemonFC; The oligarchs used a burst of hyperinflation to reset the value of what they were paying and what those people's savings was worth.
22:07 DaemonFC; Then they got Reagan into office and cut Social Security and went after dismantling the unions.
22:07 schestowitz__[TR]; techuser: new: https://scheerpost.com/2022/08/17/chris-hedges-we-are-not-the-first-civilization-to-collapse-but-we-will-probably-be-the-last/
22:07 TR Bot; Hedges: We Are Not the First Civilization to Collapse, but We Will Probably Be the Last scheerpost.com
22:07 DaemonFC; The "Fight for $15" started making some progress in the US.
22:08 Helenah; brb taking some salt.
22:08 heureka; it is collapsing already
22:08 DaemonFC; So the oligarchs caused another burst of hyperinflation to bring $15 down to what $8-9 bought a few years ago.
22:08 schestowitz[TR]; "fight for 15% inflation: ;-)
22:08 heureka; the misconception is, the socialist wish-thinking, everyone was equally collapsing instantly, doomsday
22:08 Helenah; Back!
22:08 Helenah; Downed a tall glass of salt water
22:08 Helenah; okies
22:08 Helenah; That should do me good! :D
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; it does not collapse overnight
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; it fails more people oiver time
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; 1 billion
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; 2 billiopon
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; 4 billion
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; at one point most humans will be submerged
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; some literally
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; not jsut debt
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; or hunger
22:09 schestowitz[TR]; but no water
22:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, while some people argue that they're a citizen of convenience.
22:09 Helenah; I've always wanted to say this...
22:09 Helenah; ALWAYS
22:10 *Helenah strokes her furry maine
22:10 schestowitz[TR]; and then you have to worry about governments managing to keep all those ~40,000 nukes safe from "rogues"
22:10 schestowitz[TR]; dirty bombs give cancer
22:10 Helenah; I got cancer already...
22:10 Helenah; o.o
22:10 schestowitz[TR]; sorry to hear
22:10 Helenah; Salt ain't in my system yet
22:11 Helenah; felt another heart situation
22:11 Helenah; pfft
22:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Most of the nuclear weapons in the US are stored in the states most likely to use them against other US states if the country starts breaking apart politically.
22:11 Helenah; Makes me jump!
22:11 Helenah; oO
22:11 DaemonFC; They're not stored in places like California or Illinois.
22:12 Helenah; I don't feel well... :'(
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; we used to have an empire
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; now the government assists people in paying theirt gas bills
22:12 schestowitz[TR]; to keep warm
22:12 DaemonFC; The verification process doesn't actually prevent the missile from being physically armed and launched by the personnel inside the silo.
22:12 Helenah; cuddlybear66: You'll cry if a child has to go through what I go through, you'll cry...
22:12 Helenah; :'(
22:13 cuddlybear66; :(
22:13 cuddlybear66; yeah it's rly sad...
22:13 DaemonFC; You could conceivably have a small conspiracy to fire nuclear ICBMs at targets inside the United States.
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: nukes aside, rich people's bunkers are a pipe dream
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; the masses can get to them easily
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; it's a small planet
22:13 DaemonFC; And entire cities would disappear.
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; I think that SUBCONSCIOUSLY that explains the space obsession of oliagarchs
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; foundaiton os youth..
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; eternal life
22:14 DaemonFC; Consider how much damage you could do with even one or two launch crews in on it?
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; life outside the "masses" planet
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; they know the pootential power of rage
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; so they bnuy up and defang all the media already
22:14 schestowitz[TR]; or deflect with socialc ontrol "media"
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it;'s not the explosion
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; it's what happens after
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; first fallout
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; (*cancer)
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; then hunger
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; because other places cannot supply enough food and water
22:15 DaemonFC; The book "Jericho" is actually not that far out.
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; then violence on the ground
22:15 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, the explositon is maybe 20% of the ttoal deaths, depending on some factors
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; you knock ecosystems off balance
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; then "supply chain" issues apply to water pipes and food routes
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; they already have plans of where to hit and in which order
22:16 schestowitz[TR]; to cause the most damage to the ecosystem
22:17 DaemonFC; With no clear leadership, state governments would start trying to gain control of the situation.
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; power plants, water, C&C (army, response)
22:17 schestowitz[TR]; some of them can be vandalised digitally over the Net
22:17 DaemonFC; Every state has its own military forces (the National Guard).
22:17 DaemonFC; With no clear federal chain of command, control reverts back to each state governor.
22:18 schestowitz[TR]; California has Ze TERMINATOR
22:18 schestowitz[TR]; Had rather
22:19 DaemonFC; gemini://auragem.space/github/repo/36947261/files/lame.all.js
22:19 DaemonFC; Someone ported LAME 3.98.4 to JavaScript.
22:19 schestowitz[TR]; JS is not a step forward
22:19 schestowitz[TR]; and gemini is anathema to gemini
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-22.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; wow, my writings are so littered with typos, sorrry about that
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: "they said, do something lame"
22:20 schestowitz[TR]; "so I did"
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; "lama" in JAVASCRIPT
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; *lame
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; kicks the lllllammmmas ass -winamp
22:22 TR News; "Are you good and helpful linux user? Maybe you are maybe you aren't but today we're going to go over 10 commandments you should follow to be a good linux user." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SB7OsxVLxi4
22:22 TR Bot; 10 Commandments For A Good Linux Citizen - Invidious
22:22 TR News; Open content that you can contribute to gemini://gemini.bunburya.eu/gemlog/posts/2022-08-22-open-content.gmi
22:22 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/08/20/illinois-state-police-seize-firearms-foid-cards-from-over-1000-residents-during-enforcement-blitz/
22:22 TR Bot; Illinois State Police seize firearms, FOID cards from over 1,000 residents during 'enforcement blitz'
22:23 DaemonFC; Democrats: We're not going to come for your guns.
22:23 DaemonFC; Also Democrats: We lied!
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; I'd say,
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they had good reasons to
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; I can think of many radical USians right noiw
22:23 schestowitz[TR]; you might say btheir rage is justified
22:23 DaemonFC; Most of the people they stole them from were probably just the victims of a restraining order.
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; but what if some spying showed they might shoot a lot of people?
22:24 schestowitz[TR]; the "goit nothign to lose" crowd?
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22:24 DaemonFC; One woman got a restraining order against David Letterman by telling the judge that he was telepathically communicating with her through her television.
22:24 DaemonFC; The judge said "she filled out the forms correctly".
22:24 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
22:25 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> the "goit nothign to lose" crowd?
22:25 DaemonFC; Many people have nothing to lose. I suppose the State Police will feel better about stabbings than shootings.
22:25 DaemonFC; Like the UK does.
22:25 DaemonFC; If anyone they targeted was an actual danger at all.
22:26 TR News; It is NOT a "smart" TV, it is a SURVEILLANCE device that has the capacity to also do broadcast https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/song-x85k-smart-google-tv/
22:26 TR Bot; Save $800 on a Sony 85" X85K Smart Google TV - Make Tech Easier
22:26 DaemonFC; You know, like Letterman psychically harassing a Nevada woman through the telly.
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; the function of the gov. is first and foremost to protect "the owner of thew country"
22:26 schestowitz[TR]; it was a king before
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; now it's oligarchs
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; they're sharing the "burden" of monarchy duties
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; Look at Saudi Barbaria
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; just arrested a british syudent for 34 yerars
22:27 schestowitz[TR]; for tweets
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; and cut a journalist to pieces... overseas
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; they also make many former citizens diappear in us, australia..
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; esp. women
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; because of the "crown price"
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; (king)
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; hhe doesn't take shit
22:28 schestowitz[TR]; and he knows that open discourse in ksa weould oust him
22:33 DaemonFC; The police could only name one person out of more than 1,000 that they raided during FOID enforcement who was a danger.
22:33 DaemonFC; They said they found bomb making materials.
22:33 DaemonFC; The problem is that if you trample on 1,000 people's constitutional rights and accidentally catch a criminal, that's still not legal.
22:34 DaemonFC; At that point, why stop there?
22:34 DaemonFC; Why not raid everyone's house and toss it? Who knows what you'll find?
22:36 TR News; xkcd latest https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/physics_safety_tip.png
22:37 DaemonFC; https://old.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/wt2xh0/for_only_600_microsoft_will_give_you_the/
22:38 TR Bot; For only $600, Microsoft will give you the privilege to watch Sailor Moon - but now only $60! How generous of them. : Piracy
22:38 DaemonFC; So they can disappear it after you "bought" it.
22:42 TR News; (NEW): Videos/Shows: Neptune OS, 10 Commandments For A Good Linux Citizen, and Late Night Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Videos_Shows_Neptune_OS_10_Commandments_For_A_Good_Linux_Citize.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/Videos_Shows_Neptune_OS_10_Commandments_For_A_Good_Linux_Citize.gmi
22:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Neptune OS, 10 Commandments For A Good Linux Citizen, and Late Night Linux"
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: capitalism.
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; rent is better, you own nothing
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; good for the owners of evertything
22:42 schestowitz[TR]; you are a tenant, a slave
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; and you should call it "freedom"
22:43 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080560
22:43 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0qr18frnb2f91.jpg created on 2022-08-05 19:26:34.249736
22:43 schestowitz[TR]; you are "free" to move (be evicted
22:43 TR News; (NEW): GNU Parallel 20220822 ('Rushdie') released https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/GNU_Parallel_20220822_Rushdie_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/22/GNU_Parallel_20220822_Rushdie_released.gmi
22:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Parallel 20220822 ('Rushdie') released
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/feed.xml
22:46 schestowitz[TR]; wow, only monday and we made about 40 posts on there
22:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], What did you think of my thought experiment?
22:49 DaemonFC; If you accidentally get your immigrant wife pregnant while waiting for the Green Card interview, you need to get an abortion if having the child will bring your income too low for the I-864.
22:49 DaemonFC; You can have another one after they approve your case.
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 116.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.61
23:01 XRevan86; https://youtu.be/HlkNE9dHj-c
23:01 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=HlkNE9dHj-c
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23:01 XRevan86; "Putin's European friends (ENG SUBS)"
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23:21 XRevan86; https://aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/20/russia-accuses-ukraine-of-chemical-terrorism-with-poison
23:21 TR Bot; Russia accuses Ukraine of chemical terrorism using toxin | Russia-Ukraine war News | Al Jazeera
23:21 XRevan86; > According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, Russian soldiers on combat duty in Vasylivka, Zaporizhzhia region, were hospitalized on July 31 with symptoms of severe poisoning. Botulinum toxin type B was found in the tests of the military personnel. Note that this toxin is produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum, and a common reason for poisoning is eating expired canned food.
23:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_ doesn't seem to get my point though. Maybe he doesn't want to. I'm guessing that's it.
23:22 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/08/22/a78628
23:22 TR Bot; RT Chief Suggests Russian Involvement in Skripal Poisonings - The Moscow Times
23:22 DaemonFC; Our system is geared to make good people do bad things to do good.
23:23 DaemonFC; And it lets bad people do things that are completely legal to further their evildoing.
23:23 DaemonFC; Linus Torvalds, one of mjg59_'s favorites no doubt, said this before.
23:24 DaemonFC; "Let's put it this way: If you need to ask a lawyer whether what you do is right or not, you are morally corrupt. Let's not go there. We don't base our morality on the law.".
23:26 DaemonFC; Nobody gets out of this life with their dignity intact. It's just a matter of whether you throw away your dignity in some murky sense of the greater good, or to be a no good rotten scoundrel who hurts others, or simply to survive at all.
23:26 DaemonFC; So the sooner you get rid of the delusion of moral superiority, the better.
23:27 DaemonFC; But the people who wave their "moral superiority" dicks around are usually the most corrupt, when you make a closer inspection.
23:28 DaemonFC; I've never asked a lawyer if what I was doing was right or not. I've asked them if what I planned to do about something was LEGAL or not before so that I wouldn't get myself into even more trouble than I was already in.
23:28 mjg59_; I've 100% lost track of what you're talking about, so yeah, not getting your point
23:29 DaemonFC; I don't really care about the "right or wrong" debate of actions that lead to a desirable outcome. I do care greatly about the legality.
23:30 DaemonFC; The legality and taking an enemy by surprise. Preferably I can do both at the same time, right?
23:30 DaemonFC; Have done both at the same time. And it was so satisfying.
23:30 MinceR; > Nobody gets out of this life with their dignity intact.
23:30 mjg59_; Unclear what that has to do with dual citizens being disloyal
23:30 DaemonFC; Because here's some asshole gloating thatt they won and it's all over.
23:30 MinceR; wrong, many people die early enough to avoid this
23:31 DaemonFC; And like 12 months later, their plan blew up on them and it was because I was willing to set things in motion and wait for a delayed raction.
23:31 MinceR; but it's better to never have been conceived
23:31 DaemonFC; Most people are so stupid and conditioned by our garbage in/garbage out society that they have no patience for a long fight.
23:32 DaemonFC; The ideal form of warfare is sabotage and slowly bleeding your opponent to death by faking them out and forcing them to commit resources in stupid ways that they think will work.
23:32 DaemonFC; MARISOL found that out.
23:33 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Screen-Shot-2022-08-09-at-10.05.41-AM.jpg
23:33 DaemonFC; Or by leading them to believe that you're making major concessions to them when you're really not agreeing to much at all. The State's Attorney found that out.
23:33 mjg59_; That's some fine stream of consciousness
23:34 DaemonFC; And by forcing the consequences onto some other scumbags that the state normally likes to prop up at your expense.
23:35 DaemonFC; Do I have any regrets for the last three years (after things were set in motion)? No. Well, yes. I regret that I couldn't have turned things into an even bigger disaster for my enemies.
23:36 DaemonFC; Four days after I negotiated the "surrender documents", what I had really been up to started to come to light.
23:39 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> Unclear what that has to do with dual citizens being disloyal
23:39 DaemonFC; I'm just saying no skin in the game.
23:39 DaemonFC; You're not stuck here if things go wrong. You can just get your bug out bag and bog off to Ireland.
23:39 DaemonFC; Unless I'm mistaken.
23:39 mjg59_; Yes, as could a large number of people who aren't dual citizens
23:40 DaemonFC; That's true. The illegal immigrants could run off.f
23:40 DaemonFC; Who else?
23:40 Helenah; o.O
23:40 mjg59_; People married to EU citizens
23:40 Helenah; Hi hi :3
23:40 mjg59_; Anyone with enough assets or education to qualify for various types of residency permit
23:41 mjg59_; Anyone with an Irish grandparent
23:41 DaemonFC; Really, the EU is in at least as much trouble as we are it seems.
23:41 DaemonFC; Financially.
23:41 mjg59_; Are all of these people less loyal than other US citizens?
23:42 DaemonFC; I'm just saying. Having nowhere else to go kind of limits your options.
23:42 mjg59_; And I'm pointing out that this is not unique to dual citizens
23:42 DaemonFC; Why do you think people cooperate with military drafts?
23:42 DaemonFC; If we had one and they could somehow do it to you, I'm doubting you'd stay.
23:42 mjg59_; If I'm considered less loyal, why are these other people not?
23:42 DaemonFC; You'd get out somehow.
23:43 mjg59_; Why do you keep refusing to answer the question?
23:44 DaemonFC; I say it raises serious loyalty questions.
23:44 DaemonFC; Some countries don't even allow dual citizenship.
23:44 mjg59_; For who? Dual citizens, or everyone who could move to Ireland?
23:44 DaemonFC; I don't think we should.
23:45 DaemonFC; Taking on another citizenship should be considered grounds for expulsion.
23:46 DaemonFC; People who quit purely to fuck the IRS out of a lot of money usually get it worse than others.
23:46 DaemonFC; They try to come back in and there are, errmmm.....paperwork issues.
23:46 mjg59_; Why do you distinguish between dual citizens and anyone else who could move to Ireland?
23:47 mjg59_; This seems like an easy question to answer
23:47 mjg59_; But you haven't
23:47 MinceR; 23 003926 < DaemonFC> You're not stuck here if things go wrong. You can just get your bug out bag and bog off to Ireland.
23:47 DaemonFC; I think that to accept US citizenship you should immediately show proof of renouncing others, or you should have your US citizenship stripped if you fail to accomplish that within 6 months.
23:47 MinceR; usian citizens could still emigrate
23:47 mjg59_; DaemonFC: That's still not an answer to the question
23:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], As for the FOID raids, I'm sure some of them had it happen because of attention they brought to themselves on "social media" or something.
23:48 DaemonFC; If you're hard to read, then they have a harder time justifying their actions, and they're less likely to bother you.
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23:49 DaemonFC; So that's a good reason to avoid Shitter and Fakebook.
23:49 MinceR; DaemonFC: afaik usian citizenship is enough of a pain in the ass for tax reasons already
23:49 DaemonFC; <MinceR> DaemonFC: afaik usian citizenship is enough of a pain in the ass for tax reasons already
23:49 DaemonFC; Yeah, because Mr. Garrett over here *could* move back to Ireland and have the IRS after him for his earnings in Ireland until he renounces his US citizenship.
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23:50 mjg59_; Yes, and so could a bunch of people who aren't dual citizens
23:50 DaemonFC; But he could do that and then never hear from them again, most likely, assuming his other filings were accurate and they didn't audit him for the past three years.
23:51 DaemonFC; There is no "exit tax".
23:51 DaemonFC; What most people complain about is that the IRS does a tax audit on them after they leave.
23:52 DaemonFC; But that can happen to anyone for years they have a tax filing with the IRS.
23:52 DaemonFC; It doesn't mean it's an exit tax.
23:52 *psydruid has always wondered why Europeans want to move to the US and/or obtain US citizenship only for the IRS to come after them for all of their earnings whether they've already paid taxes in their country of residence or not
23:52 DaemonFC; You're responsible for making sure what you're telling the IRS is correct.
23:53 DaemonFC; If you get audited and you owe money, that's not an exit tax, that's the difference between what you should have paid those years and did not pay.
23:53 DaemonFC; And sometimes they audit and give you another refund.
23:53 MinceR; i only see one advantage in moving to the US: being allowed to keep guns to protect yourself with
23:53 DaemonFC; <MinceR> i only see one advantage in moving to the US: being allowed to keep guns to protect yourself with
23:53 mjg59_; DaemonFC: This is, again, you failing to answer the question
23:53 DaemonFC; Except in the State of ILL.
23:53 DaemonFC; They don't recognize anyone's rights and freedoms here.
23:54 DaemonFC; People who fuck kids get more leniency from the courts here than misdemeanants.
23:54 MinceR; why not leave, then
23:54 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/13/man-who-allegedly-sexually-assaulted-child-inside-funeral-home-in-waukegan-deemed-unfit-to-stand-trial/
23:54 TR Bot; Man who allegedly sexually assaulted child inside funeral home in Waukegan deemed unfit to stand trial
23:54 DaemonFC; So he'll do it again and pain the walls at the jail in his own shit.
23:55 DaemonFC; And he'll be unfit again and then he'll be cured by the psychiatrists, and round and round we go.
23:55 DaemonFC; *paint
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23:57 DaemonFC; That's what you can do if they get you on something like this. Pull a Ted Nugent on them.
23:57 DaemonFC; Just defecate in your hand and go crazy. Put it in your hair put it on the walls.
23:57 DaemonFC; "Unfit to stand trial"
23:57 DaemonFC; The looney bin will get rid of him and dump him one the streets to be homeless again.
23:57 DaemonFC; As free as he ever was.
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