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00:00 matey; its definitely not
00:00 Erroneous; dont tell me that DaemonFC is jeff besos?
00:00 matey; okay i wont, because he isnt
00:00 Erroneous; and hes going to missplace all my oders on amazon
00:01 MinceR; jeff besauce?
00:01 matey; amazon could cut costs if they just handed your packages to random people on the street
00:01 MinceR; beesauce
00:01 matey; they like to put them in the door here so that when you open the door, it crunches the package a bit
00:01 matey; they could put them on the other side of the door and it wouldnt happen
00:02 matey; so of course they go for the hinge, up against something else, so it becomes a package cruncher
00:02 matey; if youre on the outside and youre a nice person, you can move the package
00:02 matey; if youre on the inside though, you might not know its there
00:03 Erroneous; will that void waranty?
00:03 DaemonFC; <matey> amazon could cut costs if they just handed your packages to random people on the street
00:03 DaemonFC; I thought they already do that.
00:03 matey; but at least the package gets there. the other delivery people just run up and put a note that says "sorry you werent fast enough to tag us!"
00:03 DaemonFC; <matey> but at least the package gets there. the other delivery people just run up and put a note that says "sorry you werent fast enough to tag us!"
00:03 DaemonFC; They just leave it on the door here.
00:03 matey; <DaemonFC> I thought they already do that. <- no, they take all the time to set it down ont he ground
00:03 DaemonFC; My new Chinese hood struts came yesterday.
00:03 matey; its inefficient. just hand to a random person and get back into the van
00:04 matey; <DaemonFC> My new Chinese hood struts came yesterday. <- were they delivered by amazon, or a neighbour?
00:04 AltLink_c52c; [:S] SomeH4x0r: did it really move to framagit from disroot? <- You can always read disroot - we keep it as a mirror.
00:04 AltLink_c52c; [:S] SomeH4x0r: About 270f our collaborators disliked Gitlab because it require j/s to read things. Those users can read disroot.
00:04 AltLink_c52c; [:S] SomeH4x0r: The reason is 1) disroot's mirror-sync is unstable 2) GitLab is better than Gitea
00:04 AltLink_c52c; [:S] SomeH4x0r: Feel free to collaborate anytime on http://crimeflare.eu.org (note: we may back to mypdns someday)
00:04 TR Bot; README.md master Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
00:04 DaemonFC; The mechanic at Chevy installed them for free because I said I'd just do it myself later with a screwdriver, so he didn't put down that he installed them. Said nobody would know because they only know if they check out parts from the parts department.
00:04 DaemonFC; That was nice of him.
00:04 matey; 2) GitLab is better than Gitea <- in what way?
00:05 DaemonFC; The dealer recommended new hood struts that were going to cost me $100 last week.
00:05 DaemonFC; The ones from China only cost me $23.
00:05 matey; there you go
00:05 matey; saving $77 is enough to make you strut
00:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, and they work great too.
00:06 DaemonFC; The hood actually popped up. I was happy.
00:06 Erroneous; like who need hood struts?
00:06 Erroneous; are you a filmsy litle girl?
00:06 matey; oh, youre chunky
00:06 DaemonFC; People who don't like finding something to prop the hood up and risk having it fall on them while they work on the car.
00:06 chunky; hey matey!
00:07 DaemonFC; You need to open it up and check your fluid levels weekly and not having working hood struts turns into a real nuisance.
00:07 Erroneous; who is chunky?
00:07 matey; brb
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00:08 DaemonFC; If there's a leak, it's better to know before your engine is out of oil and rattling around with the oil light on.
00:08 chunky; damn.. i miss matey.. hope he comes back soon..
00:08 DaemonFC; If you watch the level weekly, this tends not to happen.
00:08 Erroneous; i guess my car is so good i only open the hood once every 6 months
00:08 DaemonFC; Well, you know. There's no leaks until there's a leak.
00:09 DaemonFC; So have fun with those really expensive parts that needed fluid.
00:09 matey; /me thinks he just like putting his dipstick in
00:09 Erroneous; american cars ...
00:09 DaemonFC; Well, the gaskets are preferable to what the Germans do.
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00:10 DaemonFC; Which is to hit you up for so much money with "precise engineering" and then put plastic all over it so it fails and costs a ton anyway even though the metal sandwiches together perfectly.
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00:10 DaemonFC; It's like that movie about the AIDS crisis where Phil Collins is playing a bathhouse owner in San Francisco.
00:10 matey; then put plastic all over it <- sounds more like italian engineering
00:10 AltLink_c52c; [:S] matey: in what way? <- 1. 'Gitlab is an all-in-one solution, including CI/CD, gists, etc., where Gitea aims to only do the code management, issues, etc.'
00:10 AltLink_c52c; [:S] matey: in what way? <- 2. Better APIs. For example, file update API. In Gitea you must send previous sha and data, and it always return full data as response(internet wasted). In Gitlab you send only data and it only return status message.
00:10 DaemonFC; "I'll get them on the way in, and you get them on the way out."
00:10 matey; or italian furniture, at least
00:11 DaemonFC; BMW and the Dealers
00:11 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
00:11 Erroneous; why go to BMW to service a BMW?
00:11 matey; It's like that movie about the AIDS crisis where Phil Collins is playing a bathhouse owner <- missed that one!
00:11 Erroneous; you really must be jeff besos
00:11 DaemonFC; VW makes such shit I don't know how they stay in business in America. Everyone I know who has ever owned one has said that it will never happen again.
00:11 matey; i didnt know he did any acting
00:12 DaemonFC; <Erroneous> why go to BMW to service a BMW?
00:12 DaemonFC; Proprietary parts.
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00:12 Erroneous; so they only sell them at BMW carshop?
00:13 Erroneous; you can even get them second hand
00:13 Erroneous; your more of a noob at cars then me
00:13 matey; VW makes such shit I don't know how they stay in business in America. <- theyre sort of the ibm of cars
00:14 matey; in that they made a lot of money thanks to the nazis, and no one wants their shit anymore
00:14 DaemonFC; https://talk.classicparts.com/threads/autozone-sucks.5288/
00:14 TR Bot; AutoZone sucks | Classic Parts Talk
00:14 DaemonFC; I only use OE on my cars.
00:14 Erroneous; they made a lot of money thanks to the hippie nazis in the usa
00:14 DaemonFC; Unless it's just going to be such an insanely expensive part that I'd rather cross my fingers.
00:15 DaemonFC; I bought a rebuilt rack and pinion for $150 because it's like almost $900 from Delco new, and the Impala is old and high mileage.
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00:15 DaemonFC; The part has been in there for a few years and is still working okay.
00:16 DaemonFC; But for smaller things, there's just not enough price difference to be worth the generally lousy quality of going to a discount auto parts store.
00:16 DaemonFC; If you are going to use anything besides OE, especially if you are paying a mechanic, only use NAPA.
00:16 MinceR; hungarian idiots love german cars
00:17 matey; 99% of the time when i see someone in an audi they drive like a douchebag
00:17 DaemonFC; It's not worth paying hundreds of dollars labor again because you thought you were going to save $50-100 on the part.
00:17 matey; lots of uppity car brands, but the four circles are like a warning that says "oncoming douchebag"
00:18 matey; theres always one who isnt, i mean a couple a year
00:18 DaemonFC; If you want a generally trouble-free car, you're going to gravitate towards one with reliable major components, a good usage base (big aftermarket holds down OE prices!), and generally to stick to OE parts when something does break.
00:18 matey; and they do something nice and i think "dude, dont you know what youre driving?"
00:18 matey; its like theyre from another planet then
00:18 DaemonFC; Because at today's prices, it's too expensive to pay a mechanic twice because you skimped on the part.
00:19 DaemonFC; The joke was actually on the Chevy dealer when my belt tensioner went out.
00:20 DaemonFC; There was not a good local supply of Delco original parts, so they had to drive down to Joliet, a total of 170 miles round trip, to get me the part.
00:20 Erroneous; ?
00:20 DaemonFC; And GM obligates them to use original parts and to service each repair request from a customer even if something like this comes up.
00:20 Erroneous; they dont have mail were you live?
00:21 DaemonFC; Well, when your belt tensioner is about to unravel and destroy the rest of the car, you don't want to wait for the post office all week.
00:21 DaemonFC; :)
00:21 Erroneous; express mail?
00:21 Erroneous; your full of shit
00:21 DaemonFC; Again, when it's screaming and chirping, it could go at any moment.
00:22 DaemonFC; That's why I got straight down to the shop when I noticed that.
00:22 DaemonFC; I've had a belt tensioner seize up before in a Ford.
00:22 DaemonFC; Car broke down immediately, and overheated, and left me on the side of the road.
00:22 Erroneous; another american master piece
00:23 DaemonFC; Well, in Ford's defense, the original belt and tensioner ran for 217,000 miles before that happened.
00:23 matey; thats pretty far
00:23 Erroneous; i wonder why hardlly anyone drives amercan xars were i live
00:23 DaemonFC; I learned an important lesson. Change your belts out every 100,000 miles -or- ten years. They're not that expensive.
00:24 DaemonFC; And if any part of the drive pulley system starts making noise, get it in the shop fast.
00:24 DaemonFC; If it's making a lot of noise, perhaps consider a tow.
00:24 DaemonFC; AAA tows you for free like up to 5 times a year.
00:24 DaemonFC; And my cell phone company pays my membership fee at the motor club.
00:25 DaemonFC; American cars are fairly reliable if well maintained. They're not demanding, people are idiots.
00:25 DaemonFC; They don't cost a fortune. Many of them are still on the road at least 20 years later, whereas maybe 1 BMW in 1000 pulls that off after a lot of expensive breakdowns.
00:26 DaemonFC; If the BMW even lasts 8 years, it's the Dick Van Dyke of BMWs.
00:26 DaemonFC; Whereas I've had plenty of Fords and Chevys last 20-25 years.
00:27 DaemonFC; Sometimes being even the third or fourth owner.
00:27 DaemonFC; It starts getting pretty hairy being owner #3.
00:27 DaemonFC; But that doesn't mean the car is a lemon, just like being owner 2 doesn't mean a 1 owner car will be a good one.
00:28 DaemonFC; Some owners buy the thing and trade it in two years later because they have money to do that and so it's what they do.
00:28 DaemonFC; If I had billions in a bank account for whatever reason, I'd still probably drive a Buick or a Lincoln.
00:28 DaemonFC; It would be top of the line.
00:28 DaemonFC; But it would be a Buick or a Lincoln.
00:29 DaemonFC; I wouldn't be one of those people going "Sure the BMW breaks down and costs another $3,000 every 100 miles, but I'm rich so LOL at the people starving in the world.".
00:29 DaemonFC; Bezos is probably one of those.
00:30 DaemonFC; Or maybe a Cadillac. Yeah, if I was rich I might have a Cadillac car. When they go all electric I'd even have a garage to charge it in, so why not?
00:30 DaemonFC; The US makes some relatively nice luxury cars.
00:30 DaemonFC; They're not exactly the cheapest to maintain but they're a damned sight better than anything the Germans produce.
00:31 MinceR; https://thecodinglove.com/when-the-client-isnt-satisfied-with-the-product-while-i-respected-the-specifications-to-the-letter
00:31 TR Bot; When the client isnt satisfied with the product while I respected the specifications to the letter | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
00:31 DaemonFC; Besides, I can poke fun at GM when I'm in for service.
00:31 DaemonFC; So MinceR, I walks up to the guy, and I says....
00:32 DaemonFC; "I am here to speak to Mr. Goodwrench. Is he still around? Actually, strike that. I want to talk to the General of Motors. This is too important for Goodwrench.".
00:32 MinceR; it's not exactly difficult to make better cars than the germans
00:32 DaemonFC; There was a parody of the Mr. Goodwrench ads from GM back in the day.
00:32 MinceR; all you need is a bit of taste and to not include every single bit of complication you can think of in the design
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00:33 DaemonFC; Family Matters had an episode called "Mr. Badwrench".
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00:33 DaemonFC; <MinceR> all you need is a bit of taste and to not include every single bit of complication you can think of in the design
00:34 DaemonFC; Yes, BMWs would be gaudy even if they weren't so terrible in the engineering department.
00:34 DaemonFC; There's luxury and there's being a gaudy monstrosity.
00:34 DaemonFC; BMW is firmly in gaudy monstrosity territory.
00:34 DaemonFC; THey're so overdesigned it's almost like modern art.
00:35 MinceR; they look like angry beavers
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00:40 Erroneous; you gotta love angry beavers
00:41 MinceR; i don't like alleged cars that look like angry beavers
00:42 Erroneous; Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series
00:42 Erroneous; thats a reall car
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00:43 Erroneous; 800Nm
00:43 MinceR; lol
00:43 MinceR; it's 0 Nm when it's broken down
00:43 MinceR; so, often
00:43 MinceR; and looks about as tacky as a bmw
00:44 MinceR; though brabus figured out how to make it even tackier
00:44 Erroneous; us cars look like horseless carriages
00:45 Erroneous; you have louse car taste
00:45 Erroneous; lousy
00:46 Erroneous; most us cars are abominations
00:46 matey; barely
00:46 matey; made it
00:46 matey; work
00:46 Erroneous; what us car run on f1?
00:46 Erroneous;
00:47 MinceR; no u
00:47 matey; lol
00:47 MinceR; mercedes benz visual design philosophy >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AxwaszFbDw
00:47 TR Bot; https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=5AxwaszFbDw
00:47 TR Bot; tube.cthd.icu | Make the logo BIGGER! - Invidious
00:48 Erroneous; us cars are good for drifting like the bathtubes they are
00:48 MinceR; at least they're good for something
00:48 Erroneous; drifting against a pooll
00:48 matey; apple has a car coming out "weve gotten rid of wheels"
00:48 DaemonFC; The first time a BMW overheats, the engine is ruined.
00:49 matey; if you think about it, the only reason cars need wheels is because the ground isnt smooth enough for cars to glide across
00:49 matey; and yet whenever it rains or gets icy, whats the first thing that happens?
00:49 DaemonFC; And all of the cooling system is cheap plastic, so since an engine is too expensive to risk, you have to budget about $4,000 every 7 years to replace the entire cooling system, or eventually it will degrade and fail catastrophically, and steam will come out of your hood and that's the end for that one.
00:49 MinceR; that's also why buses need suspensions
00:49 matey; at apple, we thought: why not use this to our advantage?
00:50 MinceR; and yet in budapest we have mercedes-benz buses with no suspension
00:50 MinceR; you can feel every micron-sized fault in the road
00:50 matey; our cars dont have wheels. instead, they use special roads that are completely smooth, and just glide across
00:50 matey; youre going to love it
00:50 DaemonFC; Even after 14 years without being flushed, the coolant was just nasty and I had to have it flushed out twice.
00:50 MinceR; and we have massive potholes everywhere
00:50 DaemonFC; The rest of the cooling system on the Buick is working fine.
00:50 MinceR; but i guess it's useful for people who have kidney stones
00:50 MinceR; just one ride on a mercedes-benz citaro or conecto will atomize them all
00:50 DaemonFC; Just got a little plugged up by bad coolant that was coming apart.
00:51 matey; the icar utilises hovercraft technology, with specially designed glass road system with an oleophobic coating just like the iphone
00:51 MinceR; matey: apple also got rid of the steering wheel. the icar goes wherever it wants to go!
00:51 matey; youre riding on a cusion of air
00:51 MinceR; finally drivers don't get confused by deciding where to go
00:52 matey; <MinceR> matey: apple also got rid of the steering wheel <- they replaced it with one of those ( ) things
00:52 Erroneous; its got sirii steering
00:52 matey; its called the TouchWheel
00:52 MinceR; yeah
00:52 matey; and its going to change the way you drive
00:52 MinceR; you tell siri where you want to turn, and the NSA decides where you actually go
00:53 Erroneous; tesla copyed that idea
00:53 matey; all our cars are chrome coloured, a bit like the delorean but much shinier and more expensive
00:53 matey; but they dont all look exactly the same--
00:53 MinceR; the better to blind everyone else on and near the road
00:53 matey; the lighting options determine the "colour" of your car
00:54 DaemonFC; https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019ETHN8Y/
00:54 TR Bot; BOXI 2pcs Front Hood Gas Charged Lift Supports Struts For Buick LaCrosse 2008-2009 Hood SG230123,25885395 : Automotive
00:54 DaemonFC; There we go.
00:54 matey; and the windows of course, double as internet tablets
00:54 Erroneous; dont forget about the hud display
00:54 DaemonFC; I wasn't about to use Delco for hood struts. They're not going to fuck up the car if they stop working well so it's worth taking a chance on a part that costs less than a third as much.
00:55 Erroneous; with google glasses you can have you personalized hud on evey car
00:55 matey; for heating, the icar takes a completely new approach
00:56 matey; most car heating systems only turn energy into heat. this is incredibly wasteful
00:56 Erroneous; isnt heat energy?
00:56 matey; the icar actually uses a bitcoin mining rig to keep you warm in winter months-- and it helps pay for fuel
00:57 matey; there are no fans of course-- the bitcoin miners actually use the cars own chassis for cooling, just like the macbook
00:57 matey; so you wont have to listen to noisy heaters in the winter
00:58 matey; and of course, when something goes wrong with your car, just drive it into one of our mac genius garages for service
00:58 MinceR; all you'll have to replace is all the burnt circuitry
00:58 MinceR; because steve "blow" jobs didn't like cooling
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 293.73
00:59 matey; we will take your car for parts, have you drive away in some strangers icar an hour later, and charge you for the work we wont do on your car until its in pieces being shipped between our service centres.
00:59 matey; whats the difference between one icar and another? well, yours was working, this one does, thats the difference.
00:59 matey; icar. be happy.
01:00 DaemonFC; Walmart's conventional "pit crew" oil change which includes no extra services (which are easy to do yourself anyway) is $22.88.
01:00 DaemonFC; In 2004, I used these oil changes on my Chevy Corsica because I was broke and they only cost $11 back then.
01:01 DaemonFC; They were using recycled oil from Warren.
01:01 matey; the native american woman?
01:01 DaemonFC; Now people are such hippies that Valvoline has a recycled oil they charge more for.
01:01 matey; who might be a lesbian sometimes?
01:01 matey; if it gets votes...
01:02 DaemonFC; Trump called her Pocahontas.
01:02 DaemonFC; https://www.warrenoil.com/us/warren/
01:02 TR Bot; WARREN | Warren Oil Company, LLC
01:02 matey; if shes still in office next term she should run as a black woman, that might help
01:02 DaemonFC; They would supply Walmart with their "Super Tech" motor oil, which was $11 for a full service oil change or 88 cents by the quart back then.
01:03 DaemonFC; Walmart ran the $11 oil change with Super Tech oil as a loss leader to get you in the store where you were trapped for hours waiting on the oil change because they had your car.
01:03 DaemonFC; So I'd come in and get that oil change and then camp out in the magazine area of the store, reading a magazine I didn't purchase.
01:04 DaemonFC; Then when they called me back to get my car, I put it on the shelf and made my way back there.
01:04 DaemonFC; And used my employee discount on the oil change.
01:05 DaemonFC; What caused me to stop going to Walmart for oil changes are that they've had trouble finding people who want to work and so the line got longer and nobody can ever seem to get you in, and they cut costs by partnering with FRAM for a super terrible oil filter.
01:05 matey; to get you in the store <- couldnt you go somewhere else?
01:05 matey; maybe not, without a car.
01:05 DaemonFC; They cost Walmart 50 cents apiece.
01:06 DaemonFC; Walmarts are usually off in some blighted area of town where nobody cares if they build a Walmart.
01:06 matey; yeah
01:06 DaemonFC; I could use Mandy's discount card on an oil change.
01:07 DaemonFC; But I'm not handing Walmart the keys to something nice.
01:07 DaemonFC; And I'm not waiting 6 hours for an oil change.
01:07 DaemonFC; It takes the dealer maybe an hour to get me in and out and they have a waiting area with complimentary refreshments, and they don't skimp on parts.
01:08 DaemonFC; I never understood how Jiffy Lube works.
01:08 DaemonFC; Like, how they have customers.
01:08 matey; people consider their time valuable
01:08 DaemonFC; Going to the dealer for an oil change is cheaper with or without coupons.
01:08 matey; but not their car
01:08 DaemonFC; And there are always coupons.
01:08 DaemonFC; I'd rather wait an hour if they're going to let the oil finish draining out of my car and actually do the job right.
01:08 matey; yes but youre car literate
01:09 DaemonFC; It takes 30 minutes to fully drain a 3800 V6 of oil.
01:09 DaemonFC; Jiffy Lube can do it in 10 minutes because they're happy with 90% of it coming out and they'll just call it and top it off after that happens.
01:09 DaemonFC; So over time you can sludge up your engine quite badly at Jiffy Lube.
01:10 DaemonFC; Thanks to gravity, all of the heavier sediment in the oil pan will take longer to come out than what's on top of it.
01:10 DaemonFC; So you're layering crap each time you visit Jiffy Lube.
01:11 DaemonFC; And that can still end up circulating where it shouldn't.
01:11 matey; lovely
01:11 DaemonFC; Oddly, it's the people who take the worst care of their engine oil that have the fewest GM oil pan gasket problems.
01:11 matey; and heres the thing
01:11 matey; your car is used...
01:11 DaemonFC; If it's really clean, what happens is the gasket wears out and the oil starts leaking.
01:11 matey; you have a used buick
01:11 matey; but you can still take it to the dealer.
01:11 DaemonFC; But if it's dirty, the crap on top of it can actually stop leaks.
01:12 Erroneous; that's how the engineers designed it for some reason
01:12 matey; i wouldnt have even thought of that. i thought to take it to the dealer you had to buy it from them
01:12 DaemonFC; But overall, it's still worse to let crap accumulate in your engine.
01:12 DaemonFC; I can take the Buick to Ford if all I want is an oil change.
01:12 DaemonFC; There's Motorcraft oil filters that fit on a 3800 GM V6.
01:13 Erroneous; you can take it anywere
01:13 Erroneous; you can even do it yourself
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01:14 Erroneous; 3800 GM V6 is that an airplane engine?
01:15 Erroneous; 3800, Fireball, Dauntless
01:15 Erroneous; LOL i guessed it
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01:17 DaemonFC; It's a good engine.
01:17 DaemonFC; They just kept improving it for decades.
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01:17 Erroneous; with compressor and injectors
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01:18 DaemonFC; The OE oil filter for the 3800 is the AC Delco PF47E.
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01:18 DaemonFC; Motorcraft has two oil filters which should fit.
01:18 Erroneous; most of the engines innovations come from wwII airplane tech
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01:18 matey; <DaemonFC> It's a good engine.
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01:19 matey; <DaemonFC> They just kept improving it for decades.
01:19 DaemonFC; FL-318 and FL-321
01:19 matey; ntil engined comes along
01:19 matey; all vehicles will have to use engined
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01:19 DaemonFC; I always used an FL-820S on the Crown Victoria. Nothing else.
01:19 matey; it weighs as much as a volkwagon, but even a volkswagon has to use engined
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01:20 matey; have you considered getting a bigger car?
01:20 DaemonFC; Even at Walmart I would buy it in the store and then make them unbill me for the $1.27 TLE CORE FRAM filter and use the FL-820S.
01:20 DaemonFC; The guy asked why I was doing that.
01:20 DaemonFC; So I grabbed the Core TLE filter.
01:20 Erroneous; P-47 Thunderbolt
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01:20 DaemonFC; I held up the FL-820S and went "HEFTY HEFTY HEFTY!" and the TLE one and said "WIMPY! WIMPY! WIMPY!".
01:20 matey; lol
01:21 matey; the guy probably isnt old enough to know that commercial
01:21 matey; though it does sort of explain itself
01:21 DaemonFC; Mom takes her Impala to Walmart.
01:21 DaemonFC; Has an awful rod knock going on.
01:22 DaemonFC; Says they're so good at getting her in and out for all of her oil changes.
01:22 DaemonFC; I don't know how that engine hasn't failed.
01:22 DaemonFC; She said it had an oil leak and "the guy at Walmart fixed it".
01:22 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TJdQfjaRAG0
01:22 TR Bot; Hefty, Hefty, Hefty, Wimpy Wimpy 1984 - Invidious
01:22 DaemonFC; I said, "Did he tell you what was leaking? It was probably the 50 cent filter they put on your car.".
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01:23 DaemonFC; I mean, with the Ford 4.6 V8 in the Crown Vic, the engine is like big as shit, just like the car.
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01:23 DaemonFC; And they want to use this little dinky 50 cent filter with fucking cardboard and plastic.
01:23 DaemonFC; Nope nope nope.
01:24 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NjrsVPGYdd4
01:24 DaemonFC; Every time I get a car I have to say "Don't worry, you're with me now and I love you. You will never be driven by a woman again!".
01:24 TR Bot; Family Guy - Hefty Hefty Hefty - Invidious
01:24 DaemonFC; Stroking the steering wheel.
01:24 matey; You will never be driven by a woman again <- terrible :)
01:24 DaemonFC; OMG, women suck at driving AND maintaining things.
01:25 DaemonFC; "THEY JUST SAY I NEED DEXOS CERTIFIED OIL TO GET $10 OUT OF ME BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN!!!!!!1111111one"
01:25 DaemonFC; Then they wonder why people don't take women seriously.
01:26 matey; to be fair, they do try to take them for a ride a lot
01:26 matey; they end up being cynical, like absolutely nobody here...
01:27 DaemonFC; Yeah, the Crown Vic was a good car. It was a man's car.
01:27 DaemonFC; I bought it from a man. He had SERVICE RECORDS.
01:28 Erroneous; https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/if-youre-getting-bombarded-with-facetime-group-calls-youre-not-alone/
01:28 TR Bot; Please someone help me. FaceTime users bombarded with group call spam | Ars Technica
01:28 DaemonFC; Not oh I took it in for brakes occasionally at Midas when they screeched at me finally.
01:29 DaemonFC; Unless you drive a clunker and have a Midas that can just rig it up to keep going for a while as you beat on it, don't go there.
01:30 DaemonFC; matey, I went to Midas with the Crown Vic once.
01:31 DaemonFC; It literally blew a brake line right outside the shop and I had enough braking power to get it into their service bay.
01:31 DaemonFC; I had them replace the brake lines and bleed the system out.
01:31 DaemonFC; I flushed the brakes on this Buick already.
01:31 DaemonFC; Trying to keep corrosion down.
01:32 DaemonFC; In 5 years I'm going to have all of the lines replaced at once proactively.
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01:32 Erroneous; why wont you stop talking about your cars?
01:32 DaemonFC; 22-23 when they start blowing them, and you don't save much replacing one line. Most likely, you'll start blowing a line every several months after the first one goes.
01:32 MinceR; welcome to #cartech.
01:32 MinceR; :>
01:33 matey; Most likely, you'll start blowing a line every several months after the first one goes. <- just like cocaine
01:33 MinceR; :>
01:33 DaemonFC; Ford has the worst brake lines ever, or at least did on the 90s Fords I've owned.
01:33 DaemonFC; I don't quite know why.
01:34 DaemonFC; They seem to blow brake lines at about 14-15.
01:34 matey; to keep up with their reputation
01:34 matey; which you claim is undeserved
01:34 DaemonFC; Pretty much all they make now are trucks and SUVs. They got rid of their cars except the Mustang.
01:34 Erroneous; who needs braks anyway
01:34 DaemonFC; Which handles like shit because it's RWD.
01:34 MinceR; strange
01:35 DaemonFC; Ford's trucks are nice.
01:35 Erroneous; braking is sudh a waste of fuel
01:35 Erroneous; such
01:35 MinceR; i've heard of many cars with a reputation for handling very well that have RWD
01:35 DaemonFC; Erroneous, Which is why I've timed the stop lights to optimize for rolling to a stop.
01:35 matey; /me thought most sports cars were rwd, but doesnt know much about cars anyway
01:35 MinceR; indeed they are
01:36 DaemonFC; The EPA says the Impala gets 17 mpg in the city and I get about 22.
01:36 DaemonFC; On the highway they're closer to what I get because stopping isn't much of a factor there.
01:36 matey; of course if youre on a road where you need awd, then anything with rwd is going to handle like shit
01:36 Erroneous; the ones with electronics like BMW
01:36 DaemonFC; If you're only going to have one drive axle and live in a snow state....
01:36 DaemonFC; FWD is the way to go.
01:37 DaemonFC; Although the Crown Vic is a very nice car when it's nice out.
01:37 MinceR; i went with AWD, but it's not a sports car :>
01:37 Erroneous; the ones with electronics like BMW andle just fine
01:37 DaemonFC; I learned to drive it on the snow, but it's not a fun car to have on the snow.
01:37 matey; yeah i dont think sports cars usually have awd
01:37 matey; awd probably has performance costs, but there are definitely some awd cars that do well enough
01:37 Erroneous; rally cars have them
01:38 DaemonFC; The one great thing about RWD is the steering (when it's dry out).
01:38 DaemonFC; You barely even needed the power steering to steer the car.
01:38 MinceR; the new NSX has AWD
01:38 DaemonFC; You only needed one finger on the wheel to steer it really. That's how much effort it takes.
01:38 MinceR; the GT-R has it too
01:38 matey; cool
01:38 MinceR; and some GR Yarises do
01:38 Erroneous; GT-R is rally car
01:39 MinceR; but most sports cars are RWD
01:39 matey; /me wants to supercharge a lada, because that would be hilarious
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01:39 MinceR; lol
01:39 MinceR; a hilarious explosion
01:39 matey; well youd need some kind of...
01:39 Erroneous; you can only drift with RWD
01:39 MinceR; some AWD systems support drifting
01:40 matey; i mean you could START with a lada, but if you finished with one it would blow your head off
01:40 MinceR; there's also a drifting method for FWD cars, but it's probably less practical
01:41 Erroneous; in rally on snow its basic drifting driving
01:42 matey; MinceR: you could put all the NO in the cart you invariably find on the back of one :)
01:42 matey; then you just need to give the cart a better suspension, because it doesnt have a suspension at all...
01:43 matey; and youll need to reinforce the hitch or the cart will just fly off the thing
01:44 matey; youll need to reinforce the entire chassis im sure
01:44 matey; you wont finish with a lada, but it will look like one.
01:45 matey; /me starts with running lights
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01:46 DaemonFC; I'm amazed that DexCool is that much better than green coolant and people still hate it.
01:47 DaemonFC; This woman did not change it for 14 years.
01:47 DaemonFC; And the entire cooling system is still fine, the gaskets are fine, everything is fine.
01:47 DaemonFC; Just got gunked up and needed an acid bath to clear out the sludge, and it all works great again.
01:48 DaemonFC; If that was green, everything it was in would be ruined, maybe even the engine.
01:52 Erroneous; i think mine is green
01:53 DaemonFC; Yeah, if it's green you may want to power flush it and move to yellow prestone.
01:53 DaemonFC; The all makes all models stuff.
01:53 DaemonFC; The Impala has been on DexCool, Green, and Yellow.
01:54 Erroneous; never mess with it in 22 years
01:54 DaemonFC; Some idiot mom hired flushed it and put in green and it ruined most of the gaskets.
01:54 DaemonFC; So while I was replacing the intakes anyway I told them to flush it out thoroughly of any remaining coolant and refill the system with Prestone Yellow 50/50.
01:54 DaemonFC; No more coolant problems.
01:55 Erroneous; the heat gauge just goes ti the middle every time and never budges
01:55 DaemonFC; Ford decided to switch to that as factory fill recently.
01:55 DaemonFC; So it must be alright.
01:56 Erroneous; you got colant problems?
01:56 DaemonFC; I laughed. I guess they decided to join the Asian car companies in changing from OAT to HOAT, they just didn't want to do red or pink for some reason.
01:56 Erroneous; i dont even know what that is
01:56 DaemonFC; BMWs don't last long enough for contaminated coolant to become an issue.
01:57 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
01:57 MinceR; :>
01:57 Erroneous; maybe from your prespective i do
01:57 DaemonFC; If you use OAT or HOAT coolant, don't take your car to some old hillbilly who mixes it with green.
01:57 DaemonFC; Or you'll be in trouble.
01:58 Erroneous; BMWs are built for speed not to last
01:58 DaemonFC; They speed through your checking account and then blow up.
01:58 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
01:58 MinceR; :>
01:58 Erroneous; and you buy another
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 280.30
01:59 DaemonFC; I don't know what the Buick's top speed is.
01:59 DaemonFC; The speedometer stops at 145 miles per hour.
01:59 Erroneous; im guessing you dont have smartphone and maps
01:59 DaemonFC; I've had cars with speedometers that stopped at 155 or 160.
02:00 DaemonFC; I use Google maps even within this county.
02:00 DaemonFC; I pay by the mile for insurance, and I also don't like to guzzle gas, so I have it pick out the most efficient route.
02:01 DaemonFC; Of course, I also might decide to do something different if it means minimizing left turns.
02:01 DaemonFC; They're dangerous and you burn more fuel.
02:01 Erroneous; left turns ? that new
02:01 DaemonFC; So I avoid left turns and lane mergers if I can.
02:02 DaemonFC; I take a different route to get to Walmart than I take on the way back.
02:02 DaemonFC; The one going there is shorter, but the one back is safest.
02:02 DaemonFC; Well, Waze used to be notorious for the "Waze Left".
02:02 DaemonFC; Then they added "avoid difficult turns".
02:02 Erroneous; they might be flowing you?
02:02 DaemonFC; So you can turn that on and it will try to avoid those.
02:03 MinceR; in many parts of budapest, you simply aren't allowed to turn left
02:03 Erroneous; you sound like my grand mother
02:03 MinceR; you get to go through a maze to emulate it though
02:03 DaemonFC; We have that. It's called a traffic circle.
02:03 MinceR; it's like there's a religious taboo
02:04 MinceR; they aren't circles here
02:04 DaemonFC; They caught on here about 10 years ago and they're all over the place now.
02:04 MinceR; they're usually random turns between blocks
02:04 MinceR; and if you miss the entrance, you get to drive another kilometer before you can even attempt to do it again
02:04 DaemonFC; Illinois finally started doing what Indiana did 12 years ago.
02:04 DaemonFC; The flashing yellow turn arrow.
02:04 DaemonFC; "Stop. If nothing is coming, proceed."
02:05 DaemonFC; So 12 years later, the stupid fucking liberals are like "Oh, this is more environmentally friendly. It reduces idling!".
02:05 MinceR; stop. hammertime.
02:05 DaemonFC; Indiana did it 12 years ago.
02:05 DaemonFC; Illinois is so stuck in the past.
02:06 DaemonFC; Like NOTHING is coming but you have a red arrow anyway.
02:06 DaemonFC; Herr derr.
02:07 MinceR; but yeah, they also love traffic circles outside the city
02:07 MinceR; the western side of Pest county has way more traffic circles than what would be reasonable
02:08 DaemonFC; I hate AutoZone.
02:08 DaemonFC; I should really blog about how many cheap parts I used to buy there that were broken again later.
02:09 DaemonFC; Finally I just realized that nothing they sell is any good and you're wasting your money doing jobs over and over.
02:10 DaemonFC; I've picked OE Delco and Ford parts out of junkyards that held up better than AutoZone.
02:10 DaemonFC; And they were off wrecked cars that had been sitting there.
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02:18 matey; <MinceR> the western side of Pest county has way more traffic circles than what would be reasonable <- just get rid of regular roads and replace it all with chainmail
02:18 MinceR; lol
02:18 MinceR; and get dizzy and drive off the road before you get anywhere
02:19 matey; i use a hotsauce thats so delicious, when the bottle is done you just put a tiny bit of water in it and swirl it around (not like halfway or even 1/10, seriously the minimum to get the rest of the sauce out)
02:19 matey; then put it on rice. its runny but tastes nice
02:19 matey; if i subjected anyone else to this id be indian dad
02:19 MinceR; very, very runny, Sir.
02:19 matey; but i got the idea from an indian comedian
02:20 matey; "soap is gone? just add water-- MORE SOAP!"
02:20 matey; "milk is gone, just add water-- MORE MILK!"
02:20 MinceR; water is gone? just add water-- MORE WATER!
02:20 matey; i actually have another bottle of sauce, i didnt want to waste the last little bit
02:21 matey; <MinceR> water is gone? just add water-- MORE WATER! or do like i do, fill halfway then shake it so the water is frothy and more full
02:22 matey; you can try using steam but then some of your water will blow away, so its not as good for savings
02:23 MinceR; yeah, better use GOG instead
02:24 matey; we could also use the aesop water trick
02:24 matey; drop pebbles into water, water rises to the top-- MORE WATER!
02:24 Erroneous; dont waterdown your open sauce
02:25 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xVSr22kqSOs
02:25 TR Bot; Genius magpie drops stones into bottle to make water level rise so it can drink. - Invidious
02:26 matey; what would be sad is if someone had an app to do the same thing, and the app wasnt working, and a human with a smartphone was outsmarted by a magpie with a rock
02:26 matey; "rock beats app!"
02:26 MinceR; it would be sad, but it would also be expected
02:26 matey; i mean youd probably need a different kind of bird for it to actually say that
02:26 MinceR; consider how stupid the average human
02:27 MinceR; now consider that half of all humans are even stupider than that
02:27 matey; plus birds have natural gps
02:27 MinceR; not really
02:27 MinceR; afaik they (possibly not all of them) have magnetoreception
02:27 MinceR; which is not the same
02:28 matey; at one minute in the rock wont fit so he actually turns it and it goes in
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02:29 matey; which is straightforward enough, but i mean
02:29 matey; if it gets any smarter itll be working at jiffy lube
02:30 matey; <MinceR> which is not the same <- no its not the same, but its more fun exaggerating
02:30 matey; and magnetoreception is cool
02:30 matey; like if you give a bird a book, itll probably just use it to make a nest
02:30 matey; but if you put the book on a floppy it can read it
02:31 MinceR; i'm not sure if they have the resolution to do so
02:31 matey; it only works with 8 inch diskettes and fairly short books
02:32 matey; besides they get bored after a couple chapters
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02:33 matey; twitter was originally a bookstore, but it flopped, so they pivoted and marketed it to people instead
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02:34 matey; jack dorsey got some REALLY NICE weed and was like "we should an online bookstore, but for birds"
02:34 matey; "and birds cant read longer stuff so we can make it just 140 characters, theyll be happy with that"
02:34 matey; and everybody was like "jack, youre fucking high"
02:34 matey; but he showed them
02:34 MinceR; can they even handle the encodings?
02:35 matey; lot of luck, elon
02:35 matey; i dont think he has it in him
02:35 matey; <MinceR> can they even handle the encodings? <- i dont think they interpret 1s and 0s the same way we do
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02:35 Erroneous; elon is good at inflating its own stocks
02:36 matey; just like when you read a book, we imagine the picture?
02:36 matey; when they read, they imagine the words.
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02:36 MinceR; i mean stuff like ASCII or EBCDIC on top of stuff like DM, MFM, M2FM, GCR
02:36 Erroneous; im going to buy twitter 20% profit
02:36 matey; yeah i mean, thats sort of like some of the stuff ive tried to read in "english"
02:37 Erroneous; instant gratification
02:37 matey; i recognise the letters and words, but they fit together in a way that goes way over my head
02:37 matey; pretty much anything on opensource.com is beyond me
02:37 matey; what the fuck is devop?
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02:38 MinceR; \_()_/
02:38 Erroneous; thats MinceR
02:38 matey; i think they were a band, but thats a pretty obscure reference for modern tech writing
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02:39 Erroneous; MinceR is a op and a devil
02:39 matey; dr evil: "developers is an old word, it doesnt sound high tech anymore. so im going to change it and call it 'devo'"
02:39 matey; scott: "pffff, great idea"
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-200422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-200422.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 20, 2022
02:39 matey; "what?"
02:39 MinceR; could be nice, if it was true
02:39 DaemonFC; I usually do use off brand suspension parts.
02:40 MinceR; at least devils aren't humans
02:40 DaemonFC; Those get ridiculously expensive from the factory.
02:40 matey; "nothing, im sure everyones going to love training in FLOCK OF SEAGULLS 2.0"
02:40 Erroneous; developers is so bamerish
02:40 Erroneous; balmerish
02:40 DaemonFC; A single Delco strut for a Buick is like $800 plus the labor to put it together and install it.
02:40 DaemonFC; Quick struts are usually like maybe $250 each plus half the labor time to put it in.
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 20, 2022
02:41 DaemonFC; Usually by the time your car is sagging and bouncing everywhere, it's a rustbucket that you don't really want to sink a lot of money into.
02:41 DaemonFC; But some aftermarket control arms are cheaper than Delco and fine to use.
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-20.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:41 Erroneous; steve balmer used up developers word beyond redemption
02:42 MinceR; :>
02:42 DaemonFC; The part is more expensive than just a ball joint, but the labor time to replace the entire assemly is lower, so you win on labor and end up paying the same, and getting a completely new control arm.
02:42 Erroneous; has DaemonFC already said that?
02:43 matey; i want a car with legs
02:43 matey; also one that can left the back one and pee motor oil on another car
02:43 MinceR; that's the hyundai elevate
02:43 Erroneous; i want a car with wings and a jet engine
02:43 MinceR; the one with legs, i mean
02:43 matey; please tell me this is a joke
02:43 MinceR; concept car
02:43 MinceR; and i doubt they even made one of them
02:44 matey; can it pee motor oil though?
02:44 MinceR; probably not
02:44 MinceR; i think it was supposed to be electric
02:44 matey; good, my patents safe
02:44 Erroneous; at the trafic lights
02:45 matey; hehehe https://yewtu.be/watch?v=A33Yu-9rgxo
02:45 TR Bot; Project Elevate | Hyundai - Invidious
02:46 matey; its got too many parts
02:47 Erroneous; they are printable
02:48 matey; how the fuck are you supposed to MOVE those joints with any fucking torque?
02:48 Erroneous; you use wheel electric engines
02:49 matey; theres too many joints
02:49 matey; i mean its like the designed it for halo, not actually moving over actual ground
02:50 MinceR; you can have at least one electric motor in every joint plus one in every wheel
02:50 matey; "this will look super cool with main chief behind the wheel"
02:50 Erroneous; they open sourced the design in the hopes you would make it better
02:51 matey; <MinceR> you can have at least one electric motor in every joint plus one in every wheel <- okay. do they make motors that size with enough torque to do this? i assume someone did actual math here
02:51 matey; but from the video im a bit sceptical
02:51 matey; and ive seen adam savage fly in an iron man suit
02:52 matey; which seems more plausible than this design
02:52 MinceR; \_()_/
02:53 matey; do that upside down and it will look like the car
02:53 MinceR; no u
02:53 matey; _/()\_
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02:54 matey; the face doesnt render of course
02:54 Erroneous; freeking pokemons
02:54 MinceR; //\( )/\\
02:54 matey; i cant believe they didnt call it spidercar
02:54 matey; probably because they want it to appeal to arachnophobes
02:54 matey; i wasnt an arachnophobe until you typed whatevertf that is
02:55 MinceR; lol
02:55 matey; it looks like spiderd
02:55 DaemonFC; ELEVATE!!!!! -Dalek
02:55 MinceR; one of the spider kaomoji i've found just now
02:55 MinceR; though it doesn't render quite correctly here
02:55 matey; //\( )/\\ gentoo, this is your worst nightmare
02:55 matey; its spiderd! from poettering labs
02:56 matey; the worlds SECOND init system that is also a network worm
02:56 matey; coming to YOUR os, whether you install it or not!
02:56 MinceR; https://doomwiki.org/w/images/8/84/Spider.png
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02:59 Erroneous; its a brain with legs
02:59 MinceR; it's a Spider Mastermind
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 75.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 322.25
02:59 matey; systemd-singerd https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mh7Ciz5dkBo
02:59 TR Bot; TRON- MCP SINGS DAFT PUNK - Invidious
03:00 Erroneous; gentoo has new cds
03:01 MinceR; why is the music twice as loud as the talking before it?
03:01 matey; because whoever mixed it was crap
03:02 MinceR; also, the real systemd-singerd is very bad at singing
03:02 matey; well yeah
03:02 matey; if it was actually good for something systemd would replace it with something else
03:02 MinceR; similarly to how systemd is very bad at booting, shutting down, killing zombies and managing services
03:02 matey; thats sort of the whole point
03:02 matey; i mean i was lucking the video even played and mplayer was able to close properly afterwards
03:03 matey; similarly to how systemd is very bad at booting, shutting down, killing zombies and managing services <- yes!
03:03 matey; /me plays it again to see if mplayer refuses to close at the end
03:03 matey; it wont play at all, it just goes to a prompt.
03:04 matey; probably using the wrong kernel (and holding it wrong)
03:04 matey; systemd. think different.
03:04 Erroneous; mplayer ?
03:04 MinceR; systemd. just pay ibm to think for you.
03:04 Erroneous; anyone uses that since y2k?
03:04 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 241888 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40246 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 11 days ago
03:05 matey; the final solution for managing daemons.
03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 8.8 GB TotalOut: 1.9 GB
03:05 matey; nice to see ibm working with germans again
03:05 matey; i mean, what could go wrong
03:06 Erroneous; i recon that makes poetring the devil
03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:07 MinceR; :>
03:07 Erroneous; using the systemd fork to mange the daemons
03:07 MinceR; daemons can get mange?
03:07 Erroneous; manage
03:07 MinceR; systemd is more likely to give them mange
03:08 IPFS; QmV1eHWHRNxm9DLspjvUjeFdk6NvTiYcLCWvwH1WMxLvmr
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:08 matey; lol
03:08 matey; bsd: we need to find a way to get more linux users to switch to bsd
03:08 matey; lennart: hold my beer
03:08 Erroneous; ipfs-bot found a new hash!
03:11 Erroneous; https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/20/satan-2-icbm/
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03:11 TR Bot; Russia has test-launched 'Satan 2' Sarmat missile, Putin says - The Washington Post
03:14 Erroneous; can it reach mars?
03:15 Erroneous; if not elons gots you covered
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03:36 matey; http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/
03:36 TR Bot; A Pandemic of Webspam and Fake News About GNU/Linux | Techrights
03:36 matey; fake distro
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03:51 matey; HELLO!!!
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04:47 Erroneous; WHAT?
04:48 Erroneous; QmV1eHWHRNxm9DLspjvUjeFdk6NvTiYcLCWvwH1WMxLvmr IS THIS A MAGNETIC LINK?
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.10 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 265.83
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05:30 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/amazon-ridiculed-trying-motivate-easter-120326851.html?ncid=facebook_yfsocialfa_wje3x23a50w
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05:30 TR Bot; Amazon is ridiculed for trying to motivate Easter Sunday workers with a raffle to win water and a bag of chips
05:42 activelow; netsurf-motif... >>> Source compiled
05:43 activelow; need to wrap this into a clean patchset and gentoo ebuild still... and testing
05:44 activelow; nonetheless, once done, which i'll invest any effort necessary into, netsurf-motif together with my anonymous patches can be _the_ "tor browser"
05:46 activelow; and too i would designate netsurf-motif as the "free software" graphical browser of unix
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05:58 AltLink_c52c; New Issue | | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/38
05:59 TR Bot; (#38) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
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05:59 activelow; this one is for SGI IRIX with motif/opengl https://github.com/revmadison/netsurf-motif
05:59 TR Bot; - revmadison/netsurf-motif
06:02 activelow; it isn't too difficult to adapt the build from irix/motif-opengl to linux/motif
06:03 activelow; and this solves the long standing problem, a RYF browser
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07:21 matey; so heres something fun to note
07:22 matey; even though when i paste mincers shrugmoji the face looks like []
07:22 matey; and i dont mean an ordinary rectangle. i mean literally []
07:22 matey; it still actually shows the face in the logs. thats cool.
07:23 matey; i mean thats what happens with the rectangle too
07:24 activelow; https://forums.sgi.sh/index.php?threads/netsurf-motif-available.680/
07:24 TR Bot; Netsurf Motif Available | Silicon Graphics User Group
07:24 matey; gtk-free?
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07:25 activelow; yes matey, and you missed the announcement i am porting this to linux motif-noopengl
07:25 matey; fun
07:25 activelow; got this wrapped into a gentoo ebuild a moment ago, with a clean patchset
07:26 activelow; besides fun, it is _the_ solution for a graphical unix RYF browser
07:50 activelow; i see, motif was _proprietary_, and GTK1 was implemented, 1999, hence motif received little attention
07:52 activelow; which is the irony nowadays, 2012 motif was released LGPL, meanwhile i wouldn't want to touch any GTK2/3 anymore
07:55 activelow; the benefit of motif nowadays, it is both _free_ software, it is _stable_, it is not poisoned by any of the systemd/dbus/harfbuzz spyware, and together with a showcase netsurf-motif provides a RYF browser, which gnome couldn't anymore
07:56 matey; it is _stable_ <- this is the appeal for me too
07:56 matey; you know, if gcc requires c++ now, i wonder if it requires boost (github)
07:57 activelow; the impact of this, is gigantic, to both proprietary browsers, to stick to this example, and too GNOME/GNU/FSF
07:57 matey; libffi is there, so is bison (and perl for autotools)
07:57 matey; well wherever gnome goes, free software becomes open source
07:57 matey; libreoffice will be destroyed by collabora
07:57 activelow; besides, yes, netsurf, motif, passed minimum acceptance testing; doesn't require any c++/cmake/gtk-clutter/gnome-systemd spyware
07:58 activelow; libreoffice doesn't pass the criteria anymore, including dependencies such as gtk2/3 or qt4/5/6 ... none of this is what i consider "free software"
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 257.16
07:59 activelow; and with netsurf-motif available, the impact is gigantic, to both proprietary browsers, to stick to this example, and too GNOME/GNU/FSF
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08:09 activelow; and how should GNOME/FSF argue, with epiphany browser designated as "free software", in parallel to the existence of netsurf-motif?
08:11 activelow; the argument FSF had in this case, is the support for malicious js/wasm and proprietary web content with epiphany/webkit/gtk/systemd/dbus/harfbuzz, which netsurf-motif has not and needs not and wants not (besides other cosmetic issues)
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08:14 activelow; and since FSF/GNU are excited about GPL copyleft, which is too _weak_, my opinion, all of it is (L)GPL: motif, netsurf, TinyCC
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08:20 matey; and how should GNOME/FSF argue, with epiphany browser designated as "free software", in parallel to the existence of netsurf-motif? <- they only care about freedom 3 on paper
08:20 matey; theoretical freedom 3 is theoretically just as good as freedom 3 in practice
08:21 matey; in fact freedom 3 in practice is terrible, so its better to only have freedom 3 in theory (if youre the fsf)
08:21 matey; theyre afraid of freedom 3
08:21 activelow; btw. motif is an IEEE standard, and it is stable, 30 years proven track record
08:22 matey; i mean i could make my arsehole standard if i put enough money into writing the specification
08:22 matey; IEEE ARSE-T x57.0
08:23 activelow; you couldn't
08:23 matey; i totally could
08:25 matey; the information could be given to surgeons and people whose arsehole wasnt compliant could get brought up to spec
08:26 matey; of course the upgrades would be expensive, but one of the biggest problems for proctologists is having to work in non-standard environments
08:26 matey; if people were compliant proctology could be a LOT more efficient, and there could be better tools for the field
08:28 matey; plus someone could finally make a smartphone accessory that lets you mount your phone using your arse when its not in use
08:28 matey; which i doubt would be popular but its just one of the benefits of standardisation
08:29 matey; i think comfort would be a major factor in the hole thing
08:34 matey; it should probably be called ARSECII though
08:35 matey; its pretty much the same thing as ASCII except 0x24 is a pound sign
08:36 matey; and it maps to the first 128 characters of uknicode
08:36 matey; (which of course, is the same as unicode, except 0x24 is a pound sign)
08:38 matey; some people say its an arbitrary, useless, non-standard standard
08:38 matey; but they alraedy did ooxml so
08:42 activelow; netsurf-motif does _not_ pose a threat to proprietary interests of those who endorsed chromium/epiphany/webkit/gnome/gtk etc...
08:44 activelow; and it is difficult to attack the freedom of netsurf-motif, because, netsurf for example, insists on portability onto targets which cannot be attacked easily, "embrace, extend, extinguish"
08:45 activelow; GNU/FSF/IBM etc. simply cannot bloat software designated to run on some humble ARM or Amiga with 16MiB RAM
08:46 activelow; so, netsurf, motif remain what they are, "free software"
08:47 activelow; and chances are, those will compile with TinyCC, without gcc or llvm required anymore
08:48 activelow; situation with TeX/ghostscript etc is slightly different, meaning those are better options for scientific authoring and publication anyway
08:49 activelow; except for the fact, there isn't alot of maintenance and testing anymore with the related workflow; except BaphometOS
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09:02 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, April 20, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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09:03 TR News; Canonical Releases Important Ubuntu Kernel Update to Fix Eight Vulnerabilities Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163970
09:03 TR Bot; Canonical Releases Important Ubuntu Kernel Update to Fix Eight Vulnerabilities | Tux Machines
09:05 TR News; "My Fedora office workstation has wound up with a complicated network setup and to go with it" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/IsolatedInterfacesPrinciples | Source: uni Toronto
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09:05 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/IsolatedInterfacesPrinciples
09:05 TR News; "What experience leads Eric to make this recommendation?" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/ordering-css-delcarations/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
09:05 TR Bot; Ordering CSS Declarations - Jim Nielsens Blog
09:06 TR News; "Three years ago I published, Rebuilding My Personal Infrastructure With Alpine Linux and Docker" https://www.wezm.net/v2/posts/2022/alpine-linux-docker-infrastructure-three-years/ | Source: Wesley Moore
09:06 TR Bot; Alpine Linux and Docker Infrastructure Three Years Later - Wesley Moore
09:07 TR News; "If you've tried running it this way on your Raspberry Pi for similar card-preserving reasons" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/04/20/rngd/ | Source: Rachel
09:07 TR Bot; Debian/Raspbian rngd with -S0 will bite you after a week
09:08 TR News; "Ubuntu may be the most popular version of desktop Linux, but it's not the best option for keeping up with the latest software." https://www.makeuseof.com/install-ubuntu-rolling-rhino/ | Source: Make Use Of
09:08 TR Bot; How to Switch to Ubuntu Rolling Rhino: A Rolling Release Version of Ubuntu
09:09 TR News; "The trouble with using a Raspberry Pi is now I have another computer I have to maintain: apply package updates" https://www.wezm.net/v2/posts/2022/garage-door-monitor/ | Source: Wesley Moore
09:09 TR Bot; Monitoring My Garage Door With a Raspberry Pi, Rust, and a 13Mb Linux System - Wesley Moore
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09:10 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/irc-log-200422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/21/irc-log-200422/
09:10 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, April 20, 2022 | Techrights
09:11 TR News; "In contrast, in programming, we have only a haphazard notion of how one should go about obtaining sufficient technique" https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/practising_programming.html |
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09:11 TR Bot; Laurence Tratt: Practising Programming
09:14 TR News; "BigBlueButton is an open source web conferencing solution for online learning that provides real-time sharing" https://moodle.com/certified-integrations-old/bigbluebutton/ | Source: Moodle
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09:14 TR Bot; - Moodle
09:25 TR News; Ericsson literally worked with terrorists. Now it has TWO seats in the board of the Linux Foundation. https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/telecoms-and-nbn/ericsson-cannot-estimate-impact-of-doj-breach-notices.html | Source: IT Wire
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09:25 TR News; "blocking Googles tracking" https://www.pcworld.com/article/633805/brave-duckduckgo-step-in-to-block-googles-amp-pages.html | Source: PC World
09:25 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo step in to block Google's AMP pages | PCWorld
09:25 TR News; "Brave is rolling out a new feature called De-AMP, which allows Brave users to bypass Google-hosted AMP pages" https://brave.com/privacy-updates/18-de-amp/ | Source: Brave Browser
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09:25 TR Bot; Cutting Out Google and Enhancing Privacy | Brave Browser
09:26 TR News; "After COO Greg Peters addressed the latest price hike for subscription plans" https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/netflix-is-open-to-a-lower-price-tier-with-ads/ | Source: CNET
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09:26 TR News; "This update greatly improves our support for bridges, which let people quickly and easily circumvent" https://micahflee.com/2022/01/onionshare-25-released/ |
09:26 TR Bot; OnionShare 2.5 fixes security issues and adds censorship circumvention features
09:26 TR News; "Dont tell us to never store our seed phrase digitally and then do it behind our backs" https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/how-i-lost-650000-of-crypto-in-seconds/ | Source: NYPost
09:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: nypost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/how-i-lost-650000-of-crypto-in-seconds/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://nypost.com/2022/04/19/how-i-lost-650000-of-crypto-in-seconds/
09:26 TR Bot; How I lost $650,000 of crypto in seconds
09:27 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D566.jpg
09:28 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D208.jpg
09:29 TR News; "Just a thought that came up now that I tried out Gopher a bit myself, and enjoyed browsing around via Lagrange and Kristall, as well as bombadillo and sacc, of course " gemini://envs.net/~pen/gemini/gopher.gmi
09:30 TR News; "I am going to attempt to respond to a Spanish Gemini post, in Spanish. If something sounds off, before yelling at me, please reach out and ask me to clarify in English." gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-04-20-es-re-zombis.gmi
09:31 TR News; The day I met the creator of Garfield gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/20.1
09:32 TR News; "We are all excited that her commute will be cut from 1.5-2 hours down to around 15 minutes." gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-04-20-aprilthoughts.gmi
09:34 TR News; Yesterday was my 28th trip to Medieval Times, the dinner theater show with jousting knights, falcons, horse dancing, and community-theater quality sword fights. It is one of my favorite things on earth and if you haven't had the opportunity to enjoy it before, I hope you do in the future." gopher://gopher.black:70/1/phlog/20220421-medieval-times
09:35 TR News; "It's so disappointing to see people who don't realize they're being used to deliberately divide people. Smart, caring, thoughtful people whose hearts are umdoubtedly in the right place so frequently get caught up in culture-war bullshit that is just so obviously designed to divide people or to create new subcultures and identities for capitalists to market to." gemini://tskaalgard.midnight.pub/diary.gmi
09:36 TR News; "I value public spaces and public wealth over private spaces and private wealth" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
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10:04 TR News; 10 Things to Do After Installing Ubuntu 22.04 [With Bonus Tip] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163971
10:04 TR Bot; 10 Things to Do After Installing Ubuntu 22.04 [With Bonus Tip] | Tux Machines
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10:06 TR News; "In other words, consumer interest may be waning, with trading volumes falling significantly lately." https://futurism.com/the-byte/crypto-stocks-are-doing-absolutely-horribly | Source: Futurism
10:06 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: futurism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://futurism.com/the-byte/crypto-stocks-are-doing-absolutely-horribly https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://futurism.com/the-byte/crypto-stocks-are-doing-absolutely-horribly
10:06 TR Bot; Crypto Stocks Are Doing Absolutely Horribly
10:06 TR News; "Bitcoin maximalists" https://the-crypto-syllabus.com/yanis-varoufakis-on-techno-feudalism/ |
10:06 TR Bot; Yanis Varoufakis on Crypto & the Left, and Techno-Feudalism
10:06 TR News; "As inflation and economic disruption increase around the world, ostensibly stable governments look to increase controls" https://reason.com/2022/04/19/europe-targets-self-hosted-bitcoin-wallets-and-financial-privacy/ | Source: Reason
10:06 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: reason.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://reason.com/2022/04/19/europe-targets-self-hosted-bitcoin-wallets-and-financial-privacy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://reason.com/2022/04/19/europe-targets-self-hosted-bitcoin-wallets-and-financial-privacy/
10:06 TR Bot; Europe Targets Self-Hosted Bitcoin Walletsand Financial Privacy
10:07 TR News; "If you ever needed reasons not to buy NFTs, here are a few" https://blog.cyborch.com/dont-buy-nfts/ | Source: Anders Borch
10:07 TR Bot; Don't buy NFTs
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10:10 activelow; too it is difficult to attack motif nowadays, because it is both: IEEE standard and LGPL
10:12 activelow; GPL cannot be stripped from what was released already in compliance with an IEEE standard; so both had to be attacked legally and technically: an IEEE standard and LGPL
10:13 TR News; "Brave Search has rolled out a new feature that makes it easier to find conversations from forums like Reddit in your search" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/20/23034024/brave-search-feature-discussions-append-reddit | Source: The Verge
10:13 TR Bot; Brave Search no longer requires you to append Reddit to your searches - The Verge
10:14 activelow; a problem which remained was removal of GTK dependencies _and_ retaining an extensive package set for scientific work for example, which is done with Knuth TeX remaining on TODO only
10:16 activelow; the Knuth license too makes it difficult to attack TeX of him; GNU/FSF/IBM cannot fork this and claim it's Knuth when it isn't, besides Knuth had set the relevant _standard_ for TeX together with documentation
10:21 TR News; "The UK has an obligation not to send any person to a place where their life or safety is at risk and the government must not abdicate that responsibility." https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-sent-to-home-sec-for-approval.html | Source: IT Wire (sadly, this site was outsourced to Microsoft criminals)
10:21 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-sent-to-home-sec-for-approval.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-sent-to-home-sec-for-approval.html
10:21 TR Bot; - Assange extradition order issued, sent to home sec for approval
10:21 TR News; "The Wikileaks founder is expected to appeal to the High Court if she approves his extradition." https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61162908 | Source: BBC
10:21 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61162908 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61162908
10:21 TR Bot; Assange's US extradition order sent to Priti Patel for final approval - BBC News
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10:25 activelow; GPL alone is too weak, any "free software" project can be attacked, with GPL itself, meaning alterations which _practically_ terminate freedom
10:26 activelow; the transitions of GTK1->2->3->4; this isn't any progress with regards to software freedom, it is an attack _against_ it
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10:28 TR News; "An Apple retail store in Atlanta has filed for a union election with the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/20/23034175/apple-store-workers-atlanta-union-retail-amazon-google | Source: The Verge
↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/20/23034175/apple-store-workers-atlanta-union-retail-amazon-google
10:28 TR Bot; Apple store workers in Atlanta file for the companys first union election - The Verge
10:28 TR News; "restrict your username to a mostly ASCII" https://www.wezm.net/v2/posts/2022/usernames/ | Source: Wesley Moore
10:28 TR Bot; ASCII-centric Usernames - Wesley Moore
10:29 activelow; and as I explained, GPL (LGPL alike) does _not_ explicitely prohibit it's "incorporation" into non-free software
10:30 activelow; "embrace, extend, extinguish" with related interoperability and compatibility issues imposed, this is what GPL permits because it cannot prevent undesireable alterations without _standards_
10:30 SomeH4x0r; https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-always-online-and-the-internet-archive-team-up-to-fight-origin-errors/
10:30 TR Bot; ( status 503 @ https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-always-online-and-the-internet-archive-team-up-to-fight-origin-errors/ )
10:30 SomeH4x0r; is it something eviler?
10:31 SomeH4x0r; I don't know when the post appeared, I seen the link on the other chat
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10:45 TR News; "the day after the streamer disclosed it had lost subscribers for the first time in a decade" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflixs-stock-drags-down-its-rivals-too-1235133094/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
10:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflixs-stock-drags-down-its-rivals-too-1235133094/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflixs-stock-drags-down-its-rivals-too-1235133094/
10:45 TR Bot; Netflixs Cratering Stock Drags Down Its Rivals Too The Hollywood Reporter
10:45 TR News; "Higher Ground, President Barack Obama and Michelle Obamas media company, is ending its exclusive podcast deal with Spotify" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/obamas-cut-ties-with-spotify-1235237381/ | Source: Variety
10:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/obamas-cut-ties-with-spotify-1235237381/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/obamas-cut-ties-with-spotify-1235237381/
10:45 TR Bot; to End Exclusive Deal With Spotify - Variety
10:48 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.pcmag.com/news/smart-home-company-insteon-shuts-down-servers-without-warning | Source: PC Mag
10:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/smart-home-company-insteon-shuts-down-servers-without-warning https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.pcmag.com/news/smart-home-company-insteon-shuts-down-servers-without-warning
10:48 TR Bot; Home Company Insteon Shuts Down Servers Without Warning | PCMag
10:48 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.theverge.com/23032451/smart-home-troubles-insteon-ihome-shutdown-matter | Source: The Verge
10:48 TR Bot; Insteon and iHome shut down their cloud servers this month - The Verge
10:49 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.itpro.co.uk/network-internet/internet-of-things-iot/367439/insteon-customers-forced-to-rely-on-open-source | Source: IT Pro
10:49 TR Bot; Insteon customers forced to rely on open source fixes after apparent collapse of IoT firm | IT PRO
10:49 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://inside.lighting/news/22-04/lighting-controls-become-bricks-smart-home-company-disappears |
10:49 TR Bot; Lighting Controls Become Bricks as Smart Home Company Disappears
10:49 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://staceyoniot.com/insteon-is-down-and-may-not-be-coming-back/ |
10:49 TR Bot; Insteon is down and may not be coming back - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
10:49 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://staceyoniot.com/with-insteon-down-possibly-for-good-what-options-do-you-have-for-your-devices/ |
10:49 TR Bot; With Insteon down, possibly for good, what options do you have for your devices? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 116.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 300.65
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11:09 TR News; "Mark Summers QC, an attorney for Assange" https://thedissenter.org/british-court-sends-order-for-assange-extradition-to-home-office-for-approval/ | Source: The Dissenter
11:09 TR Bot; British Court Issues Order For Assange Extradition
11:31 TR News; "Somebody has got to be the first to do something." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/atlanta-apple-store-workers-file-companys-first-union-election-us | Source: Common Dreams
11:31 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/atlanta-apple-store-workers-file-companys-first-union-election-us https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/atlanta-apple-store-workers-file-companys-first-union-election-us
11:31 TR Bot; Atlanta Apple Store Workers File for Company's First Union Election in US
11:32 TR News; "Voting at the 1,500-employee LDJ5 facility, which is located across the street from the JFK8 warehouse that scored a historic union win" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/sanders-visit-amazon-workers-nyc-eve-second-union-election | Source: Common Dreams
11:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/sanders-visit-amazon-workers-nyc-eve-second-union-election https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/sanders-visit-amazon-workers-nyc-eve-second-union-election
11:32 TR Bot; Sanders to Visit Amazon Workers in NYC on Eve of Second Union Election
11:32 TR News; "Democrats should ban consultants from not just specifically working on anti-union activity, but also working for actively anti-union corporations." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/amid-backlash-democrats-consider-banning-consultants-anti-union-activity | Source: Common Dreams
11:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/amid-backlash-democrats-consider-banning-consultants-anti-union-activity https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/amid-backlash-democrats-consider-banning-consultants-anti-union-activity
11:32 TR Bot; Amid Backlash, Democrats Consider Banning Consultants From Anti-Union Activity
11:33 TR News; "union-busting" https://truthout.org/articles/thanks-to-union-pressure-democrats-may-crack-down-on-consultants-union-busting/ | Source: TruthOut
11:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/thanks-to-union-pressure-democrats-may-crack-down-on-consultants-union-busting/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/thanks-to-union-pressure-democrats-may-crack-down-on-consultants-union-busting/
11:33 TR Bot; Thanks to Union Pressure, Democrats May Crack Down on Consultants' Union-Busting
11:33 TR News; SweatshopZone https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/the-amazon-labor-union-victory-lessons-for-all-of-labor/ | Source: Counter Punch
11:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/the-amazon-labor-union-victory-lessons-for-all-of-labor/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/the-amazon-labor-union-victory-lessons-for-all-of-labor/
11:33 TR Bot; Amazon Labor Union Victory - Lessons for All of Labor - CounterPunch.org
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11:38 DaemonFC; "Part of the reason to avoid a brand new car for as long as possible is that they're a Digital Restrictions Monster (DRM), which lock you out of things like remote start and seat warmers without subscribing to hardware that's in the car and paying a monthly fee to some assholes like Toyota or they just shut that all off from space, but another reason is because they've given up on quality because if they can act as a cartel and cause a huge
11:38 DaemonFC; steep decline in quality in concert, you have no escape from what they're doing to you when they all decide to do something awful together. Like the way Microsoft, Google, and Apple behave, but with cars."
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11:41 DaemonFC; "The reason for avoiding Digital Restrictions Monsters like new cars and "cloud" (clown) computing, include and center around the fact that someone else has control of everything and you are giving them unlimited power over you just so you can putt down the road to work and back with heated seats, or something, listening to your "Apple Music" that disappears the minute you skip payment because you try to be frugal."
11:42 TR News; "Separated families continue to endure significant distress, functional impairment, and mental health disorders." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/doctors-group-urges-biden-redress-victims-trump-era-family-separation | Source: Common Dreams
11:42 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/doctors-group-urges-biden-redress-victims-trump-era-family-separation https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/doctors-group-urges-biden-redress-victims-trump-era-family-separation
11:42 TR Bot; Doctors Group Urges Biden to Redress Victims of Trump-Era Family Separation
11:43 TR News; "For years, as ever-bigger corporate combines grabbed ever-bigger chunks of market power, America's political, media and academic establishment" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/20/joe-biden-stop-telling-people-youre-their-side-and-start-showing-them-you-are | Source: Common Dreams
11:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/20/joe-biden-stop-telling-people-youre-their-side-and-start-showing-them-you-are https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/20/joe-biden-stop-telling-people-youre-their-side-and-start-showing-them-you-are
11:43 TR Bot; Opinion | Joe Biden: Stop Telling People You're on Their Side and Start Showing Them You Are | Jim Hightower
11:44 DaemonFC; "And all of this, AFTER you're sending $650 to the bank every month, risking losing all of it if you fall behind, for a car that won't be paid off until 7 years from now."
11:45 DaemonFC; "MORE if it's a luxury brand, because, you know....hood ornament."
11:46 DaemonFC; "which will probably be all you have of it after 7 years if it's a BMW."
11:46 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
11:48 DaemonFC; "Apparently. BMW rips people off for hood ornaments too. I have seen SO MANY SELLERS IN CHINA selling "counterfeit" BMW hood ornaments because people steal them or they fall off, or you get into an accident and BMW wants $600 for a hood ornament."
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11:56 TR News; KDE Gear 22.04 Is Here with Kalendar, Many Improvements for Your Favorite KDE Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163972
11:56 TR Bot; KDE Gear 22.04 Is Here with Kalendar, Many Improvements for Your Favorite KDE Apps | Tux Machines
11:58 TR News; "Crystals, at least those hawked by new-age practitioners for their healing or restorative powers" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/20/turning-scrap-copper-into-beautiful-copper-acetate-crystals/ | Source: Hackaday
11:58 TR Bot; Scrap Copper Into Beautiful Copper Acetate Crystals | Hackaday
12:25 activelow; given the extensive package set available now, i decided to drop support for any package outside the base system with cxx requirements, which excludes all GTK2/3 and related entirely
12:26 activelow; of cause it is possible still, to re-emerge gcc with c++ support and any desired package anytime, yet it is not necessary anymore if everything desireable is available without it
12:29 activelow; and BaphometOS will be an almost perfect companion of Raspberry PI (any armv7), haven't got any yet for testing although this won't be a problem for anyone to acquire one
12:30 activelow; too the idea is, updates are rolled out as a _complete_ firmware image always, which should be rarely necessary, given the minified attack vector and low security concerns
12:31 activelow; i think, netsurf-motif with baphometos has no remote code execution vulnerability at all and it is difficult to introduce any
12:32 activelow; not sure yet how to arrange for a BaphometOS release (bandwidth requirements, a release schedule, documentation)
12:33 activelow; without full integration of tinycc and full removal of gcc it is a sneak preview only
12:33 activelow; and tinycc is a huge task remaining
12:40 TR News; Linux in education: operating systems for learning and teaching Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163973
12:40 TR Bot; Linux in education: operating systems for learning and teaching | Tux Machines
12:40 TR News; Raspberry Pad 5 Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board integrates 5-inch display for 3D printers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163974
12:40 TR Bot; Raspberry Pad 5 Raspberry Pi CM4 carrier board integrates 5-inch display for 3D printers | Tux Machines
12:41 TR News; 5 open source tips to reduce waste in web design Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163975
12:41 TR Bot; 5 open source tips to reduce waste in web design | Tux Machines
12:41 TR News; Linux KDE receives first-ever eco-certification for Okular Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163976
12:41 TR Bot; Linux KDE receives first-ever eco-certification for Okular | Tux Machines
12:41 TR News; 8 Best Free and Open Source Terminal Emoji Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163977
12:41 TR Bot; 8 Best Free and Open Source Terminal Emoji Tools | Tux Machines
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12:54 TR News; "I might just abandon my HTTP site for this one. I don't really care about traffic statistics. The info on this site will get a lot more diverse soon. But for now, let this be enough... for now. I do plan on making a "blog" section... eventually." gemini://capsule.herag.xyz
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 379.55
13:03 TR News; "Right wing think tanks (like ALEC and TPPF) are pushing laws that would prevent state agencies from contracting with financial companies unless they prop up fossil fuels, and Texas has already signed into law an implementation of their model bill." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/tx-sb13
13:03 TR News; OpenBSD 7.1: fan noise and high temperature solution gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-71-fan-noise-temperature.gmi
13:05 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163978
13:05 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:05 TR News; How Linux rescues slow computers (and the planet) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163979
13:05 TR Bot; How Linux rescues slow computers (and the planet) | Tux Machines
13:08 TR News; KDE Gear 22.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163972#comment-33402
13:08 TR Bot; KDE Gear 22.04 Is Here with Kalendar, Many Improvements for Your Favorite KDE Apps | Tux Machines
13:10 TR News; Skipping CentOS Stream? AlmaLinux 9 Beta is here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163920#comment-33401
13:10 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9 Beta--Now Available | Tux Machines
13:17 TR News; "Did you ever feel like your laptops GPU was sub-optimal?" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/20/this-laptop-gets-all-the-pcie-devices/ | Source: Hackaday
13:17 TR Bot; Laptop Gets All The PCIe Devices | Hackaday
13:17 TR News; "As you may have noticed, Ive been working with an STM32 ARM CPU using Mbed." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/20/a-rotary-encoder-how-hard-can-it-be/ | Source: Hackaday
13:17 TR Bot; Rotary Encoder: How Hard Can It Be? | Hackaday
13:18 TR News; Commodore at 40 https://hackaday.com/2022/04/20/commodore-c64-the-most-popular-home-computer-ever-turns-40/ | Source: Hackaday
13:18 TR Bot; C64: The Most Popular Home Computer Ever Turns 40 | Hackaday
13:19 TR News; 3D printing https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/honda-just-declared-war-on-3d-printer-makers-community/ | Source: Techdirt
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13:19 TR Bot; Just Declared War On 3D Printer Makers Community | Techdirt
13:19 TR News; Open Culture Remix https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-yana-buhrer-tavarnier/ | Source: Creative Commons
13:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-yana-buhrer-tavarnier/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-yana-buhrer-tavarnier/
13:19 TR Bot; Meet the Judges #CCSharesCulture: Yana Buhrer Tavarnier - Creative Commons
13:20 TR News; "Netflix has reported a drop in subscriber numbers" https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-poses-concern-as-netflix-subscribers-drop-for-the-first-time-220420/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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13:20 TR Bot; Poses Concern as Netflix Subscribers Drop for the First Time * TorrentFreak
13:20 TR News; Attacking the Web to attack sharing and enrich the copyright cartel (the real pirates) https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-signs-anti-piracy-deal-committing-to-rolling-site-blocking-regime-220420/ | Source: Torrent Freak
13:20 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-signs-anti-piracy-deal-committing-to-rolling-site-blocking-regime-220420/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-signs-anti-piracy-deal-committing-to-rolling-site-blocking-regime-220420/
13:20 TR Bot; Signs New Anti-Piracy Deal Committing to "Rolling Site-Blocking Regime" * TorrentFreak
13:22 TR News; Musk Social, ego-boosting project and financial manipulation sandbox https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/elon-musks-twitter-takeover-drama-a-hand-overplayed/ | Source: Counter Punch
13:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/elon-musks-twitter-takeover-drama-a-hand-overplayed/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/elon-musks-twitter-takeover-drama-a-hand-overplayed/
13:22 TR Bot; Musks Twitter Takeover Drama: A Hand Overplayed? - CounterPunch.org
13:23 TR News; Just another source of pollution. Yuppie greenwashing. https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/do-cars-dream-of-an-electric-future/ | Source: Counter Punch
13:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/do-cars-dream-of-an-electric-future/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/do-cars-dream-of-an-electric-future/
13:23 TR Bot; Cars Dream of an Electric Future? - CounterPunch.org
13:24 TR News; nasa on earth day ... blocked by javascript https://www.nasa.gov/earth-day-2022/
13:24 TR Bot; Earth Day 2022 | NASA
13:24 TR News; Microsoft TCO https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-exchange-servers-hacked-to-deploy-hive-ransomware/
13:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-exchange-servers-hacked-to-deploy-hive-ransomware/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-exchange-servers-hacked-to-deploy-hive-ransomware/
13:24 TR Bot; Microsoft Exchange servers hacked to deploy Hive ransomware
13:25 TR News; I was always baffled by what marketscreener actually was? Webspam? Relaying anti-FUD lies for offending companies? https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/VMWARE-INC-58476/news/VMware-Challenging-the-Expectations-of-Open-Source-40101852/
13:25 TR Bot; : Challenging the Expectations of Open Source | MarketScreener
13:30 TR News; Do You Understand This? Pentagon Techs 100% Tracking Method https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/the-login-id:4 Source: RobBraxmanTech
13:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/the-login-id:4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/the-login-id:4
13:30 TR Bot; Do You Understand This? Big Tech's 100% Tracking Method
13:30 TR News; Small File Media Festival - AUGUST 10 - 20, 2021 Simon Fraser University https://smallfile.ca/ Source: smallfile
13:30 TR Bot; Small File Media Festival AUGUST 10 20, 2021 Simon Fraser University
13:34 TR News; Insteon Looks DeadJust Like its Users Smart Homes - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/19/136258 Source: soylentnews
13:34 TR Bot; Insteon Looks DeadJust Like its Users Smart Homes - SoylentNews
13:39 TR News; "Towards Better Sharing of Cultural Heritage" https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/towards-better-sharing-of-cultural-heritage-workshop-help-us-develop-a-cc-open-culture-guide-for-policymakers/ | Source: Creative Commons
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13:39 TR Bot; Towards Better Sharing of Cultural Heritage Workshop Help us develop a CC Open Culture Guide for Policymakers - Creative Commons
13:39 TR News; "Creative Commons Open Culture Remix Art Contest #CCSharesCulture is open until 30 April" https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-laliv-gal/ | Source: Creative Commons
13:39 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-laliv-gal/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/20/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-laliv-gal/
13:39 TR Bot; Meet the Judges #CCSharesCulture: Laliv Gal - Creative Commons
13:39 TR News; "The new AlmaLinux adds support for IBM Z systems alongside its existing support of x86" https://fossforce.com/2022/04/almalinux-9-0-beta-released-testers-needed/ | Source: Unicorn Media
13:39 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9.0 Beta Released - Testers Needed - FOSS Force
13:52 TR News; Assange https://shadowproof.com/2022/04/20/dark-day-press-freedom-british-court-assange-extraditio/ | Source: Shadowproof
13:52 TR Bot; Dark Day For Press Freedom As British Court Orders Assange Extradition
13:56 TR News; The patents that kill https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/corruption-in-drug-patents-take-away-the-money/ | Source: Counter Punch
13:56 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/corruption-in-drug-patents-take-away-the-money/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/corruption-in-drug-patents-take-away-the-money/
13:56 TR Bot; in Drug Patents: Take Away the Money - CounterPunch.org
13:57 TR News; "Whether Internet has fueled conspiracy fantasies or not, virtually all conspiracy fantasies have a few common parameters" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/old-nazi-and-new-conspiracy-fantasies/ | Source: Counter Punch
13:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/old-nazi-and-new-conspiracy-fantasies/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/old-nazi-and-new-conspiracy-fantasies/
13:57 TR Bot; Nazi and New Conspiracy Fantasies - CounterPunch.org
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14:45 TR News; Assange https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/journalism-not-crime-outrage-judge-approves-assange-extradition-us | Source: Common Dreams
14:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/journalism-not-crime-outrage-judge-approves-assange-extradition-us https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/20/journalism-not-crime-outrage-judge-approves-assange-extradition-us
14:45 TR Bot; 'Journalism Is Not a Crime': Outrage as Judge Approves Assange Extradition to US
14:45 TR News; On trademarks https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/20/cristal-champagne-people-opposing-trademark-for-oregon-winerys-crystal-visions-wine/ | Source: Techdirt
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14:45 TR Bot; Champagne People Opposing Trademark For Oregon Winerys Crystal Visions Wine | Techdirt
14:49 TR News; Cancelnetflix https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/20/netflix-pivots-from-innovator-to-turf-protector-as-executives-whine-about-password-sharing/ | Source: Techdirt
14:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/20/netflix-pivots-from-innovator-to-turf-protector-as-executives-whine-about-password-sharing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/20/netflix-pivots-from-innovator-to-turf-protector-as-executives-whine-about-password-sharing/
14:49 TR Bot; Pivots From Innovator To Turf Protector As Executives Whine About Password Sharing | Techdirt
14:57 TR News; "States including Iowa and Michigan issued bans on book donations" https://www.projectcensored.org/book-donation-bans-in-us-prisons-restrict-prisoners-rights-generate-corporate-profits/ | Source: Project Censored
14:57 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/book-donation-bans-in-us-prisons-restrict-prisoners-rights-generate-corporate-profits/ )
14:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/book-donation-bans-in-us-prisons-restrict-prisoners-rights-generate-corporate-profits/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/book-donation-bans-in-us-prisons-restrict-prisoners-rights-generate-corporate-profits/
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15:00 TR News; "Last week, Zoom announced its plans to add emotion detecting tech to its virtual meeting platform" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/20/intel-wants-to-add-unproven-emotion-detection-ai-to-distance-learning-tech/ | Source: Techdirt
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15:00 TR Bot; Wants To Add Unproven Emotion Detection AI To Distance Learning Tech | Techdirt
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15:32 TR News; TUXEDO Stellaris 15 Is the First Linux Laptop to Come Pre-Installed with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163980
15:32 TR Bot; TUXEDO Stellaris 15 Is the First Linux Laptop to Come Pre-Installed with Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines
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15:41 MinceR; X no longer starts on my openbsd laptop
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15:43 TR News; GNUj/Linux market share in Ukraine estimated at 3% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-200901-202204 not including Android...
15:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-200901-202204 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-200901-202204
15:43 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Ukraine | Statcounter Global Stats
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15:45 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats NewUbuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163981 @MariusNestor first with the news?
15:45 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
15:52 TR News; Links 21/04/2022: Ubuntu LTS is Now Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/ubuntu-lts-is-now-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/21/ubuntu-lts-is-now-released/
15:52 TR Bot; Links 21/04/2022: Ubuntu LTS is Now Released | Techrights
15:52 bnchs; MinceR: sad
15:53 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163982
15:53 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
16:03 MinceR; indeed
16:03 MinceR; and afaict NetBSD doesn't really support full disk encryption yet
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16:23 -amdj/Wallops-Ubuntu is releasing its latest Long Term Support version, 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish", tonight (UTC) -- Feel free to join the launch party at #ubuntu-release-party
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16:39 TR News; "Alright. One small gripe about my job. We are attempting to transition our batch processing and Event Stream Processing from a centralized system (Mainframe) to a Distributed computing system." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/894
16:40 TR News; Two OpenWrt updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163983
16:40 TR Bot; Two OpenWrt updates | Tux Machines
16:40 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Official Flavors Released, Heres Whats New Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163984
16:40 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Official Flavors Released, Heres Whats New | Tux Machines
16:40 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163985
16:40 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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17:01 TR News; COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Continues to Climb http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/21/over-600-deaths/
17:01 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Continues to Climb
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17:50 TR News; A Month After the Massive Strike Across Europe the Union of EPO Workers Proceeds Against Salary Adjustment Procedure (Reduction), Based on Managers Hoax | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/suepo-vs-salary-adjustment-procedure/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/21/suepo-vs-salary-adjustment-procedure/
17:50 TR Bot; A Month After the Massive Strike Across Europe the Union of EPO Workers Proceeds Against Salary Adjustment Procedure (Reduction), Based on Managers Hoax | Techrights
17:56 TR News; [Meme] EPOs Ombuds Service is Like a Yellow Union (Following Disbandment of the Audit Committee) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/yellow-ombuds/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/21/yellow-ombuds/
17:56 TR Bot; [Meme] EPOs Ombuds Service is Like a Yellow Union (Following Disbandment of the Audit Committee) | Techrights
18:09 TR News; Next for Gemini: More Mainstream Adoption | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/geminispace-mainstream-adoption/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/21/geminispace-mainstream-adoption/
18:09 TR Bot; Next for Gemini: More Mainstream Adoption | Techrights
18:09 TR News; Ubuntu Unity 22.04 LTS Released with Flatpak and Flathub Support, New Default Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163986
18:09 TR Bot; Ubuntu Unity 22.04 LTS Released with Flatpak and Flathub Support, New Default Apps | Tux Machines
18:23 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163987
18:23 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
18:28 bnchs; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_and_Florida_House_Bill_1557
18:28 TR Bot; Disney and Florida House Bill 1557 - Wikipedia
18:28 bnchs; disney: "we support LGBT"
18:28 bnchs; disney: "don't say gay in the classrooms"
18:34 psydruid; disnay
18:40 activelow; https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-says-he-has-465-billion-for-twitter-takeover-bid/a-61547494
18:40 TR Bot; Musk says he has $46.5 billion for Twitter takeover bid | News | DW | 21.04.2022
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18:52 barto; greetings everyone
18:52 SomeH4x0r; hi
18:52 SomeH4x0r; matey didn't show up for much time today
18:53 barto; right
18:53 barto; maybe he'll show up soon
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19:11 TR News; "When you create a device thats more open than the usual, you can expect good things to come from the community of tinkerers out there. This time, theres an excellent initiative for theming, by tweaking the SteamOS interface to use different colors or looks with CSS rules injection (and probably more). Going boldly where no other handheld has gone before!" https://boilingsteam.com/the-steam-deck-gets-a-theming-plugin/
19:11 TR Bot; The Steam Deck Gets a Theming Plugin - Boiling Steam
19:12 TR News; GulagTube "influencer" SPAM. Does Intel stoop this low? Sure it does, it never gets held accountable anyway... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puk_5_5wAFY
19:12 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=Puk_5_5wAFY
19:12 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | My Intel NUC Mini PC Setup - Invidious
19:14 TR News; "Remember Monkey Island and Tomb Raider 1? yeah wanna play it on GNU Linux? yeeeessss!" https://dwaves.de/2022/04/21/gnu-linux-run-old-dos-games-and-windows-games-from-wine-to-dosbox-x-how-to-compile-from-latest-src-first-problems-keyboard-some-keys-not-working/
19:14 TR Bot; GNU Linux run old dos games (and windo(w)s games) from wine to dosbox-x how to compile from latest src first problems: keyboard / some keys : not working | dwaves.de
19:17 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is out now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163981#comment-33407
19:17 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
19:18 TR News; GOG do a few more upgrades, this time adding 170 game tags | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-do-a-few-more-upgrades-this-time-adding-170-game-tags/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
19:18 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-do-a-few-more-upgrades-this-time-adding-170-game-tags/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-do-a-few-more-upgrades-this-time-adding-170-game-tags/
19:18 TR Bot; do a few more upgrades, this time adding 170 game tags | GamingOnLinux
19:20 SomeH4x0r; GOG is fake
19:20 TR News; "Smartphone gaming accessory maker GameSir is crowdfunding a new controller with a built-in fan." LOL! https://liliputing.com/2022/04/lilbits-pixel-watch-leak-a-smartphone-game-controller-with-a-cooling-fan-and-a-pocket-sized-modular-laptop-under-development-and.html
19:20 TR Bot; Pixel Watch leak, a smartphone game controller with a cooling fan, and a pocket-sized modular laptop under development, and - Liliputing
19:20 SomeH4x0r; they don't care about DRM-free but they keep lying
19:20 schestowitz; psydruid: ^^ I'm not a fan
19:21 schestowitz-TR; DRM <3 Linux
19:23 SomeH4x0r; https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
19:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
19:23 TR Bot; on GOG: list of single-player games with DRM, page 1 - Forum - GOG.com
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19:26 DaemonFC; Russ down at Chevy recommended a good body shop to me to fix some imperfections.
19:26 DaemonFC; There's some minor rust that I found that I really want to lose right now before it becomes an eyesore and eats into anything.
19:27 DaemonFC; They quoted me a decent price.
19:27 DaemonFC; I can make this car look like it just came out of the factory.
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19:36 SomeH4x0r; Maybe GOG was a good compromise initially (to let people play old games legally), but then it went shit
19:37 bnchs; netfilx is losing subscribers
19:37 bnchs; and blaming it on "password sharing"
19:38 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: could be ruse or fake
19:38 schestowitz-TR; they usually prepare the excuses upfront
19:38 schestowitz-TR; like FB did
19:38 schestowitz-TR; or Microsoft with security
19:38 bnchs; no it's obvious
19:38 schestowitz-TR; the idea is that you create a straw man
19:38 bnchs; first of all they increased the prices again
19:38 schestowitz-TR; then you disclosure the bad news to shareholders
19:38 schestowitz-TR; like Apple with "shortages"
19:39 schestowitz-TR; EPO does this too
19:39 schestowitz-TR; make a scapegoat
19:40 TR News; Vietnams new social media take-down rules will intensify state censorship they must be revoked - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/vietnams-social-media-take-down-rules/ Source: accessnow
19:40 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/vietnams-social-media-take-down-rules/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/vietnams-social-media-take-down-rules/
19:40 TR Bot; Vietnams new social media take-down rules will intensify state censorship they must be revoked - Access Now
19:41 bnchs; "Netflixs share price has tumbled after it announced a net loss of 200,000 subscribers globally, and expects to lose a further two million over the next three months. Its share price slid more than 35% in early trading on Wednesday following the announcement, wiping around $55bn (42bn) off its value. "
19:41 bnchs; https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/apr/20/why-is-netflix-losing-so-many-subscribers-and-what-can-it-do-about-it
19:41 TR Bot; Why is Netflix losing so many subscribers and what can it do about it? | Netflix | The Guardian
19:41 schestowitz-TR; I can think of countless examples
19:41 schestowitz-TR; inc. Vistsa 11 usage and vaccine shortfall
19:41 schestowitz-TR; they blame the people first
19:42 bnchs; and the fall of FB
19:42 schestowitz-TR; "it's not that the vaccine has low efficacy"
19:42 schestowitz-TR; "you're not holding it up right!"
19:42 schestowitz-TR; sour grapes
19:42 DaemonFC; https://www.makeuseof.com/check-before-downloading-files-online/?utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1650375299
19:42 TR Bot; 7 Things to Check Before Downloading Files Online
19:42 DaemonFC; I commented:
19:42 schestowitz-TR; "we don't need no stinking users anyway, now we'e a METAVERSE company"
19:42 schestowitz-TR; "voila! now we have a new name! META!'
19:43 DaemonFC; https://pastebin.com/svwyQBGS
19:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pastebin.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pastebin.com/svwyQBGS https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pastebin.com/svwyQBGS
19:43 TR Bot; Search for the Official SourcesDNF and Flathub are the official sources. - Pastebin.com
19:43 schestowitz-TR; HRC did not lose the elction
19:43 schestowitz-TR; "RUSHAN TROLLS"
19:43 SomeH4x0r; DaemonFC: don't spread evil links
19:44 SomeH4x0r; https://www.makeuseof.com/check-before-downloading-files-online/
19:44 TR Bot; 7 Things to Check Before Downloading Files Online
19:44 schestowitz-TR; Tesla had NO WHISTLEBLOWER
19:44 bnchs; "piracy" is starting to look attractive
19:44 schestowitz-TR; he was a "MASS SHOOTER"
19:44 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, i remember that
19:45 bnchs; "uh yes 911, this whistleblower- i mean shooter is planning to shoot up the gigafactory"
19:45 bnchs; "pls swat him nao"
19:46 schestowitz-TR; "this vaccine works great, but so many people still die because... ANTIVAXXERS!!"
19:47 TR News; Let Your Memes Be Dreams https://www.supergoodcode.com/do-not/
19:47 TR Bot; Do Not Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
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19:49 psydruid; > psydruid: ^^ I'm not a fan
19:49 psydruid; If you aren't a fan, I won't be one either
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19:50 TR News; Crawl back to your hole, SPAMNIL. "Skills Shortage Is Delaying Cloud Adoption" ... no outsourcing is NOT a skill and clown computing is a lunacy for the clueless, careless, and reckless, promoted by corporate spammers like SPAMNIL.
19:52 TR News; Clown is NOT a skill, unless you try or hope to work in a circus http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/
19:52 TR Bot; AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights
19:52 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: a fan in the console
19:53 schestowitz-TR; a fan in the controller
19:53 schestowitz-TR; by 2025 a fan in each button in the controller
19:53 schestowitz-TR; this console has "LOTS OF FANS!"
19:53 psydruid; that's one of the reasons why I dismiss the Steam Deck
19:54 schestowitz-TR; one reviewer from the UK said the battery lasts one hour
19:54 psydruid; it's 2022, I don't want fans in my computers anymore
19:54 schestowitz-TR; if you run GPU-intensive AAA title
19:54 schestowitz-TR; and if you run some shitty ugly game it'll last as advertised
19:54 schestowitz-TR; otherwise you will need many booster packs
19:54 schestowitz-TR; which is an extra cost and something else to carry
19:54 bnchs; steam deck is only good for playing... valve's games
19:54 bnchs; and games built on valve's engine
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19:54 bnchs; anything else is poorly optimized and will eat up your battery
19:55 psydruid; it's good for Valve's captive x86-based audience, but not for me
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19:56 schestowitz-TR; o y u so negative !!
19:56 psydruid; sometimes I can use this tablet for 2 days without charging
19:57 psydruid; that's what I would also like to see in a handheld device
19:57 psydruid; oh sowwy
19:58 psydruid; I didn't mean to be so negative, I just didn't want to come across as being completely stupid
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19:59 TR News; PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Conference Europe: Call for Papers https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-conference-europe-call-for-papers-2442/ Source: postgresql
19:59 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Conference Europe: Call for Papers
19:59 psydruid; also Fedora RISC-V looks dead, unless they took it underground into a secret Nazi bunker
19:59 bnchs; i would like to build my game on top of an engine with tons of security vulnerabilites
19:59 bnchs; - valve shills
20:01 bnchs; https://www.eurogamer.net/valve-finally-fixes-cs-go-exploit-that-could-give-hackers-control-of-pcs
↺ https://www.eurogamer.net/valve-finally-fixes-cs-go-exploit-that-could-give-hackers-control-of-pcs
20:01 TR News; Workflows or how I tried to give up and love Emacs gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/27.gmi
20:01 TR Bot; finally fixes CS:GO exploit that could give hackers control of PCs | Eurogamer.net
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20:02 bnchs; valve is like microsoft, they fix security flaws... years after they were reported
20:02 psydruid; helping DRM-infested closed source x86-only game companies isn't helping free software, it's rather the antithesis
20:02 TR News; Jazzmaster - Pickguard Replacement & Re-shielding gemini://rawtext.club/~mieum/music/2022-04-22-jazzmaster_pickguard.gmi
20:03 bnchs; https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/04/10/valve-accused-of-ignoring-remote-code-execution-vulnerability-affecting-all-source-engine-games/
20:03 TR Bot; Valve Accused of Ignoring Remote Code Execution Vulnerability Affecting All Source Engine Games - The FPS Review
20:03 psydruid; although in the case of having to choose between Valve and Epic/Microsoft it's the lesser of the two evils
20:03 bnchs; when you rely on proprietary game engine, you rely on them for fixes
20:03 SomeH4x0r; psydruid: some players want to play old games, but want to do it "legally" for various purposes.
20:04 SomeH4x0r; Some are just lazy to pay for VPN and waste *much* more money on evil game stores.
20:04 TR News; Many "Jazzmasters" were black. And they never felt offended to be called that.
20:04 TR News; Proton 7.0-2 Makes More Games Playable on Linux, Fixes Numerous Bugs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163988
20:04 TR Bot; Proton 7.0-2 Makes More Games Playable on Linux, Fixes Numerous Bugs | Tux Machines
20:04 psydruid; SomeH4x0r, that is fine and I wish them good luck and a lot of fun
20:05 TR News; ICBM: patent troll and anti-Linux troll that sometimes makes nukes and mainframes
20:11 TR News; BillBC marketing for Bill "well, he's dead" GAIDS https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220419-how-effective-are-covid-19-vaccines-for-people-with-hiv?ocid=global_future_rss
20:11 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220419-how-effective-are-covid-19-vaccines-for-people-with-hiv?ocid=global_future_rss https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220419-how-effective-are-covid-19-vaccines-for-people-with-hiv?ocid=global_future_rss
20:11 TR Bot; effective are Covid-19 vaccines for people with HIV? - BBC Future
20:12 bnchs; i remember the gmod cough virus
20:13 bnchs; it was a exploit that exploited some kind of remote code execution on the source engine
20:13 TR News; howtoforge has now been dead for months. You can only access it if you run some proprietary software on your computer.
20:13 bnchs; it spread to the game's copy and then to other users
20:14 TR News; LLVM, PipeWire, git update in Tumbleweed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163989
20:14 TR Bot; LLVM, PipeWire, git update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines
20:18 TR News; Ubuntu has a new release today and TechRadar decided it's time to promote Microsoft's ATTACK on GNU/Linux... with WSL puff pieces. WSL should be eradicated. It's an EEE-type attack on all of us.
20:18 TR News; 8 Linux Tips for Student Programmers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163990
20:18 TR Bot; 8 Linux Tips for Student Programmers | Tux Machines
20:21 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163991
20:21 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:22 TR News; "Our take on why Fedora's Legacy BIOS plans have stirred up such a strong debate, how NVIDIA's Linux strategy seems to be changing, and a surprising kernel patch from Sony." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148292/linux-action-news-237/
20:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148292/linux-action-news-237/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148292/linux-action-news-237/
20:22 TR Bot; Linux Action News 237 | Jupiter Broadcasting
20:23 TR News; "Full system backups with FFS snapshots, ZFS and dump(8), tuning recordsize in OpenZFS, Optimizing FreeBSD Power Consumption on Modern Intel Laptops, remember to check for ZFS filesystems being mounted, Use tcpdump to save wireless bridge, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/451
20:23 TR Bot; BSD Now 451: Tuning ZFS recordsize
20:24 bnchs; i do like steam deck that it makes game devs port their game to GNU/Linux
20:24 TR News; Gemini is fast growing and outgrowing its geeky roots; were seeing a lot more capsules and weve noticed a broader range of topics lately http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/geminispace-mainstream-adoption/
20:24 TR Bot; Next for Gemini: More Mainstream Adoption | Techrights
20:25 TR News; With banksters [sic] running Europes second-largest institution and repeatedly breaking the law (while making up new roles, including theatrics for optics such as new Ombuds service) we expect things to worsen; the staff union thankfully strikes back http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/suepo-vs-salary-adjustment-procedure/
20:25 TR Bot; A Month After the Massive Strike Across Europe the Union of EPO Workers Proceeds Against Salary Adjustment Procedure (Reduction), Based on Managers Hoax | Techrights
20:25 bnchs; but at the same time, i don't like how insecure these game engines typically are (for multiplayer/networking games)
20:25 MinceR; same
20:25 TR News; The EPO's Ombuds service is basically not there to hold the management accountable; its there just for optics http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/yellow-ombuds/
20:25 TR Bot; [Meme] EPOs Ombuds Service is Like a Yellow Union (Following Disbandment of the Audit Committee) | Techrights
20:25 MinceR; that's what made me get a separate PC for gaming
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20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 31.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.56
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21:12 TR News; Yo Tony http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/yellow-ombuds/
21:16 TR News; SmartOS 20220421 is out http://smartos.org/
21:16 TR Bot; SmartOS | Joyent
21:18 TR News; A few days have passed and Kodachi 8.20 is out. version bump again.https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/
21:18 TR Bot; Linux Kodachi 8.20 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization
21:19 TR News; ICBM faking it again after offloading the 'unwanted' bits https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/ibm_q1_2022/
21:19 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/ibm_q1_2022/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/ibm_q1_2022/
21:19 TR Bot; IBM beats the Street for Q1 2022, talks of changed focus The Register
21:20 TR News; 58: Portable Monitors & Action Cameras, Stuff A Hardware Addict Needs For The Road! - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-58/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
21:20 TR Bot; Portable Monitors & Action Cameras, Stuff A Hardware Addict Needs For The Road! - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital
21:21 TR News; OpenBSD 7.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163992
21:21 TR Bot; OpenBSD 7.1 | Tux Machines
21:22 TR News; "The affected product does not properly sanitize input while processing a specific project file, allowing a possible out-of-bounds read condition." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-111-01
21:22 TR Bot; Delta Electronics ASDA-Soft | CISA
21:23 TR News; Geek Guide: Purpose-Built Linux for Embedded Solutions | Linux Journal https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/geek-guide-purpose-built-linux-embedded-solutions Source: LinuxJournal | GNU | Linux
21:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/geek-guide-purpose-built-linux-embedded-solutions https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/geek-guide-purpose-built-linux-embedded-solutions
21:23 TR Bot; Geek Guide: Purpose-Built Linux for Embedded Solutions | Linux Journal
21:24 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/five_eyes_russia/ "securing and monitoring remote desktop protocol (RDP) and other "potentially risky" services"
21:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/five_eyes_russia/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/five_eyes_russia/
21:24 TR Bot; Five Eyes fear fresh Russian attacks against infrastructure The Register
21:26 TR News; The Openwashing Foundation does IBM openwashing/marketing https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/open-mainframe-project-launches-call-for-proposals-for-the-3rd-annual-open-mainframe-summit-on-september-21-22-in-philadelphia-pa-301530197.html
21:26 TR Bot; Open Mainframe Project Launches Call for Proposals for the 3rd Annual Open Mainframe Summit on September 21-22 in Philadelphia, PA
21:27 TR News; ICBM is open... for business
21:29 TR News; Holes found... in "linux-azure"... Microsoft cancer (proprietary NSAware) inside Linux https://lwn.net/Articles/892214/
21:29 TR Bot; updates for Thursday [LWN.net]
21:30 TR News; The cost of proprietary software https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens
21:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newyorker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/25/how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens
21:30 TR Bot; How Democracies Spy on Their Citizens | The New Yorker
21:32 TR News; Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-111-02 proprietary software
21:32 TR Bot; Johnson Controls Metasys SCT Pro | CISA
21:32 TR News; EU Parliaments draft of AI Act: predictive policing is banned, but work remains to protect peoples rights - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/ai-act-predictive-policing/ Source: accessnow
21:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/ai-act-predictive-policing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/ai-act-predictive-policing/
21:32 TR Bot; EU Parliaments draft of AI Act: predictive policing is banned, but work remains to protect peoples rights - Access Now
21:33 TR News; PyCon is bribed by criminals from Microsoft, just like the OSI, so... https://blog.opensource.org/join-us-at-pycon-2022/
21:33 TR Bot; Join us at PyCon 2022
21:35 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/emotet-resurgence-email/
21:35 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/emotet-resurgence-email/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/emotet-resurgence-email/
21:35 TR Bot; Emotet reestablishes itself at the top of the malware world The Register
21:36 TR News; Gulagtube <3 gulags https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/youtube_blocks_hong_kong_candidate/
21:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/youtube_blocks_hong_kong_candidate/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/youtube_blocks_hong_kong_candidate/
21:36 TR Bot; YouTube blocks Hong Kong's presumed next head of government The Register
21:37 schestowitz; AMD POR SPAM https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/mercedes_f1_amd_epyc/
21:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/mercedes_f1_amd_epyc/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/mercedes_f1_amd_epyc/
21:37 TR Bot; Epyc CPUs helped Mercedes win F1 constructor gong, says AMD The Register
21:37 psydruid; AMD <3 MALWARE
21:38 psydruid; let's improve on that
21:39 psydruid; AMD = MALWARE
21:42 TR News; Nix 2.8.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163993
21:42 TR Bot; Nix 2.8.0 released | Tux Machines
21:43 TR News; Looking to be taken over? https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/
21:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/
21:43 TR Bot; now hopes to IPO in 2023 TechCrunch
21:45 TR News; Ubuntu used to have an actual community. Now it wants a shareholders community. It helps helps criminals from Microsoft. Wrongly thinking it's a worthwhile business strategy...
21:46 schestowitz-TR; *Also helps
21:51 TR News; Xubuntu 22.04: New Since 21.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163981#comment-33410
21:51 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
21:52 TR News; The terms "digital transformation" would likely mean increase complexity and buy support https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/digital-transformation-4-truths
21:52 TR Bot; Digital transformation: 4 outdated notions to move past | The Enterprisers Project
21:53 TR News; ICBM on clown-native https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/continuous-integration-success-factors
21:53 TR Bot; Continuous integration: 5 key success factors | The Enterprisers Project
21:54 TR News; Slaves for ICBM: give your T-shirt as reward for your hard labour. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-contributor-tee-shirt-giveaway-claim-yours-today/
21:54 TR Bot; Fedora Contributor Tee Shirt Giveaway: Claim yours today! Fedora Community Blog
21:55 TR News; <a href="https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/21/bind-kafka-cluster-nodejs-application-easy-way"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
21:55 TR Bot; Bind a Kafka cluster to a Node.js application the easy way | Red Hat Developer
21:58 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: Hardware Addicts, BSD Now, Linux Action News, and TLLTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163994
21:58 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: Hardware Addicts, BSD Now, Linux Action News, and TLLTS | Tux Machines
21:58 TR News; Games: Steam, GOG, and GameSir Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163995
21:58 TR Bot; Games: Steam, GOG, and GameSir | Tux Machines
22:02 TR News; "A now-former eBay security director accused of harassing a couple who wrote a critical newsletter about the internet tat bazaar is set to plead guilty to cyberstalking. James Baugh, of San Jose, California, was charged with conspiracy to commit cyberstalking and conspiracy to tamper with witnesses, alongside six former colleagues in a baffling case brought in 2020." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/exebay_director_cyberstalkin
22:02 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/exebay_director_cyberstalkin )
22:02 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/exebay_director_cyberstalkin https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/exebay_director_cyberstalkin
22:06 TR News; PCLinuxOS: More updates today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156465#comment-33411
22:06 TR Bot; Kernel and Browser Updates in PCLinuxOS | Tux Machines
22:07 TR News; Quit quoting Gartner. Gartner Group is a bunch of frauds. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/asm_ceo_industrial_conglomerate_buying/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
22:07 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/asm_ceo_industrial_conglomerate_buying/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/asm_ceo_industrial_conglomerate_buying/
22:07 TR Bot; ASML CEO: Mega-firm buying washing machines to rip out chips The Register
22:07 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
22:07 TR News; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163996
22:07 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:07 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163997
22:07 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:08 TR News; Seems like promotional webspam, not news. Those cars are barely even used anywhere. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/uk_self_driving_highway_code/
22:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/uk_self_driving_highway_code/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/uk_self_driving_highway_code/
22:08 TR Bot; UK gov changing Highway Code for self-driving vehicles The Register
22:09 TR News; Does Gartner pay The Register to pretend frauds from Gartner are some sort of geniuses? https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/oracle_contracts_pricing_gartner/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
22:09 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/oracle_contracts_pricing_gartner/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/oracle_contracts_pricing_gartner/
22:09 TR Bot; Oracle contracts and pricing a 'challenge' says Gartner The Register
22:10 TR News; Public Knowledge Commends FCC for Moving To Improve Spectrum Efficiency https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-commends-fcc-for-moving-to-improve-spectrum-efficiency/ Source: publicknowledge
22:10 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Commends FCC for Moving To Improve Spectrum Efficiency - Public Knowledge
22:11 TR News; "Today, the Federal Communications Commission voted to approve a Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to seek comment on proposals to bolster the effectiveness of the Wireless Emergency Alerts system." https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-welcomes-fcc-action-to-improve-wireless-emergency-alert-system/
22:11 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Welcomes FCC Action To Improve Wireless Emergency Alert System - Public Knowledge
22:11 TR News; A lot of the time clown computing hype makes simpler tasks even harder https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771191/aws-s3-file-transfer-from-a-non-aws-linux-server/
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22:11 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771191/aws-s3-file-transfer-from-a-non-aws-linux-server/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771191/aws-s3-file-transfer-from-a-non-aws-linux-server/
22:11 TR Bot; AWS S3 file transfer from a non-AWS Linux server - Linux & Unix
22:13 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/AnalysisIntrex/status/1517043397395202049#m
22:13 TR Bot; IntrexAnalysis (@AnalysisIntrex): "#DiplomatDistributors @NoamWeiman and #Schestowitz @YoniSchestowitz this should impact #Russian imports to #Israel, no? @haaretzcom @AIPAC @WorldJewishCong" | nitter
22:14 schestowitz-TR; why the f* does this even name me?
22:14 schestowitz-TR; twitter is noise machine
22:16 TR News; mesa 22.1.0-rc2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163998
22:16 TR Bot; mesa 22.1.0-rc2 | Tux Machines
22:17 TR News; Why would anyone want to use this WSL garbage? Notice how it's mostly PRO-WINDOWS sites promoting it. https://www.thewindowsclub.com/error-occurred-mounting-one-of-your-file-systems-wsl
22:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thewindowsclub.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thewindowsclub.com/error-occurred-mounting-one-of-your-file-systems-wsl https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thewindowsclub.com/error-occurred-mounting-one-of-your-file-systems-wsl
22:17 TR Bot; An error occurred mounting one of your file systems on WSL
22:20 TR News; Sweatshop workers cannot unionise. These might be able to. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/apple_atlanta_union/
22:20 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/apple_atlanta_union/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/apple_atlanta_union/
22:20 TR Bot; Apple Store staff in Atlanta first to vote to unionize The Register
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22:22 TR News; BEELINK is trying to associate itself with "Linux" while it FORCES you to pay for Microsoft Windows and comes PRE-loaded with that malware. https://www.gizchina.com/2022/04/21/beelink-ser4-mini-pc-the-smaller-the-size-the-bigger-the-punch/
22:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gizchina.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gizchina.com/2022/04/21/beelink-ser4-mini-pc-the-smaller-the-size-the-bigger-the-punch/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gizchina.com/2022/04/21/beelink-ser4-mini-pc-the-smaller-the-size-the-bigger-the-punch/
22:22 TR Bot; Beelink SER4 mini PC: the smaller the size, the bigger the punch
22:22 TR News; "a wasteful, expensive exercise in futility." https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/us_chips_tsmc/
22:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/us_chips_tsmc/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/20/us_chips_tsmc/
22:22 TR Bot; US chip output growth a futile exercise, warns TSMC founder The Register
22:23 TR News; GCC 11.3 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163999
22:23 TR Bot; GCC 11.3 Released | Tux Machines
22:24 TR News; A rather bizarre blog post from Canonical today https://ubuntu.com//blog/digital-transformation-logistics
22:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/digital-transformation-logistics https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/digital-transformation-logistics
22:24 TR Bot; centricity the digital transformation driver in the logistics sector | Ubuntu
22:26 TR News; "Allwinner A133 is also a tablet processor, but being launched more recently, it supports Android 10. Im not so sure about Linux support. Its listed on linux-sunxi website as a sun50i variant just like the Allwinner A64 that is well supported in Linux" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/21/pop32-pop64-sips-combine-allwinner-a33-and-a133-with-sdram-into-a-single-package/
22:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/21/pop32-pop64-sips-combine-allwinner-a33-and-a133-with-sdram-into-a-single-package/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/21/pop32-pop64-sips-combine-allwinner-a33-and-a133-with-sdram-into-a-single-package/
22:26 TR Bot; POP32 & POP64 SIPs combine Allwinner A33 and A133 with SDRAM into a single package - CNX Software
22:27 TR News; "The BGA socket is simply soldered on the board instead of the RAM chip itself, and as demonstrated on the MangoPi MQ Pro board, you could then insert the chip on the board instead of soldering it." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/21/bga-socket-allows-ram-upgrades-on-sbcs/
22:27 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/21/bga-socket-allows-ram-upgrades-on-sbcs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/21/bga-socket-allows-ram-upgrades-on-sbcs/
22:27 TR Bot; BGA socket allows RAM upgrades on SBCs - CNX Software
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22:43 TR News; "What is the enthusiast trap, and why does it seem to ensnarl every successful open source project? Also, some excellent listener power user tips for NextCloud." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8254
22:45 TR News; "With the release of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish", we have an updated desktop experience with custom features, and long-term support for three years. In this video, we'll take a look at the installation process. Nothing much has changed in the installer, but if you haven't seen what the process looks like yet, then this video is for you." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_8cD4HFvhc
22:45 TR Bot; https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=f_8cD4HFvhc
22:45 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=f_8cD4HFvhc )
22:45 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" Full Review - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7AtyPdw5qNw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
22:45 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" Full Review - Invidious
22:46 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and some of the applications pre-installed." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRirhIprPG8
22:46 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=LRirhIprPG8
22:46 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=LRirhIprPG8 )
22:47 *matey (~matey@vxe7qbsb56tks.irc) has joined #techrights
22:48 TR News; Dirk Hohndel goes to Cardano for openwashing after doing openwashing for Intel for almost 15 years, then covering up for VMware('s abuses) for a few. Started with Linux, turned to openwashing PR.
22:48 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: oi
22:48 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r was looking for you
22:48 schestowitz-TR; [18:52] <SomeH4x0r> matey didn't show up for much time today
22:51 matey; <schestowitz-TR> SomeH4x0r was looking for you <- his friend has awful timing
22:51 matey; he wants me to talk to someone who is never online when i am
22:51 schestowitz-TR; very different timezone
22:51 schestowitz-TR; US and Ukraine
22:51 matey; its not simply about timezones
22:51 matey; i talk to very different timezones on a daily basis
22:52 matey; its simply about timing and schedules
22:52 matey; his friend tends to JUST miss me
22:52 matey; not much i can do about it
22:54 schestowitz-TR; anyway, he seemed eager to talk
22:54 schestowitz-TR; (and has difficult times)
22:55 matey; (sure, but considering its someone ive never spoken to before)
22:55 matey; at any rate ive proposed a solution that should accomodate his schedule
22:56 matey; i feel if anything theres some rigidity and unwillingness to problem solve on the other side making this impractical
22:56 TR News; "I'm not sure how to finish this post, so I'll just shout out "GNU tetris" a few times." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/895
22:57 matey; the ball is in their court as it were
22:57 matey; but complaining to me wont move my schedule around, as i said theres nothing i can do about it
22:58 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164000
22:58 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
22:59 schestowitz-TR; matey: maybe he will see logs of scrollback
22:59 MinceR; and now x starts again
22:59 MinceR; just from rebooting twice
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 35.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 348.25
22:59 MinceR; why does openbsd have to copy windows?
22:59 schestowitz-TR; anyway, today the "news" was all about Ubunti
22:59 schestowitz-TR; it might even be called noise. *Ubuntu
23:01 psydroid2; Microsoft sponsorship
23:02 schestowitz-TR; freebsd takes more money
23:02 schestowitz-TR; relatively speaking too
23:03 schestowitz-TR; openbsd took it under the pretext of openssh work
23:03 MinceR; maybe X randomly breaks and heals between reboots on freebsd too
23:03 schestowitz-TR; and since then the amount decreased, IIRC
23:03 schestowitz-TR; we mentioned this months ago
23:03 MinceR; just for the hell of it
23:03 matey; <MinceR> why does openbsd have to copy windows? <- if you want to make x stop starting its rcctl disable xenodm i think
23:03 MinceR; it was enabled all the time
23:03 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, libera did a network-wide wallop ad about ubuntu
23:03 MinceR; but before this reboot, xenodm would just fail to start
23:04 MinceR; running startx would list a whole bunch of libraries that ld.so couldn't load, with the line "Killed" after each one
23:04 schestowitz; -amdj/Wallops- Ubuntu is releasing its latest Long Term Support version, 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish", tonight (UTC) -- Feel free to join the launch party at #ubuntu-release-party
23:04 schestowitz; iirc, last time they dikd this was FSF getting new ED
23:04 MinceR; i unplugged my usb devices in an attempt to see if that fixes anything, which didn't fix anything, but it did break networking, so i rebooted to fix that and xenodm came up
23:04 matey; mincer have you ever tried the friendly bsd forum?
23:04 MinceR; no
23:04 matey; its nice. they do every bsd
23:05 matey; theyre noob friendly but knowedgable
23:05 schestowitz-TR; release "party"
23:05 schestowitz-TR; like Microsoft sending Vista 7 party packs
23:05 matey; search for "unitedbsd" forum
23:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:43] <techrights-news> Looking to be taken over? https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/
23:05 MinceR; normal updates shouldn't break X
23:05 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/21/canonical-now-hopes-to-ipo-in-2023/
23:05 TR Bot; now hopes to IPO in 2023 TechCrunch
23:05 MinceR; and it shouldn't randomly come and go across reboots
23:05 matey; it looks like discource but its something lighter/less stupid
23:06 matey; youve got some serious issue there. i have one machine that cant boot x unless i create xorg.conf
23:06 matey; just one
23:06 matey; i dont use it for x though
23:06 schestowitz-TR; Ubuntu/Canonical Ltd: looking for extras. Apply now. Salary: none.
23:06 MinceR; (i also unplugged a display via hdmi and then replugged it but that didn't affect anything)
23:06 MinceR; yeah, the serious issue is that the entire IT industry is a trash fire
23:06 schestowitz-TR; [21:54] <techrights-news> Slaves for ICBM: give your T-shirt as reward for your hard labour. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-contributor-tee-shirt-giveaway-claim-yours-today/
23:06 TR Bot; Fedora Contributor Tee Shirt Giveaway: Claim yours today! Fedora Community Blog
23:06 matey; youre using a server os as a desktop os. it works pretty well usually...
23:06 MinceR; nothing people make fucking works properly
23:06 schestowitz-TR; ICBM: come work for us
23:07 schestowitz-TR; we'll give you something to cover your nipples with
23:07 MinceR; and none of it makes any sense
23:07 matey; the forums very nice. i learned gnu/linux from forums
23:07 matey; i use bsd forums a lot less
23:07 matey; when i started using gnu/linux i had no idea what to search for
23:08 matey; sometimes that applies here as well
23:08 matey; forums are great for that sort of problem
23:08 schestowitz-TR; matey: thanks for advertising to me NOT to use openbsd on this laptop
23:08 schestowitz-TR; I thought about doing it 3 weeks ago
23:08 matey; thanks for advertising to me NOT to use openbsd on this laptop <- youre missing the point
23:09 MinceR; wait until MICROS~1 and ibm/deadrat breaks Linux on it too
23:09 matey; it has worked on every laptop ive used it on-- better then freebsd and netbsd even.
23:09 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: I need certain h/w and s/w
23:09 schestowitz-TR; openbsd would not support it
23:09 schestowitz-TR; on server I would not need these
23:09 MinceR; they don't care
23:10 matey; in fact i didnt try openbsd until freebsd and netbsd failed to run on a laptop
23:10 matey; but openbsd did
23:10 matey; with things like the pi its the other way around-- netbsd will be more reliable there
23:10 matey; for now
23:10 TR News; Links 21/04/2022: Two OpenWrt Updates, OpenBSD 7.1, Nix 2.8.0, and GCC 11.3 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/21/gcc-11-3-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/21/gcc-11-3-released/
23:10 TR Bot; Links 21/04/2022: Two OpenWrt Updates, OpenBSD 7.1, Nix 2.8.0, and GCC 11.3 Released | Techrights
23:10 MinceR; has anyone managed to install netbsd with full disk encryption on a system that had no "legacy" boot support yet?
23:10 matey; but the reason i recommend openbsd isnt because its a great DESKTOP os
23:10 schestowitz-TR; freebsd is friends with companies I strongly dislike
23:11 matey; i recommend openbsd because SOMEONE has to build a new os after microsoft buntlinux kills itself
23:11 schestowitz-TR; in that sense, it reminds me of LF
23:11 TR News; Devices Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164001
23:11 TR Bot; Devices Leftovers | Tux Machines
23:11 matey; and openbsd is the most forkable (in practice)
23:11 matey; that way people dont need to build a new os from the ground up
23:11 matey; however, my associates are working on that as well.
23:11 matey; and THEY care.
23:11 MinceR; yeah, freebsd was corrupted like linux, before linux
23:11 matey; freebsd i have no hope for. though i tried it first and honestly it wasnt complete shit
23:11 matey; politically i have no hope for it
23:12 matey; netbsd isnt free enough. other than that, its not shit either.
23:12 matey; openbsd is a better version of netbsd. literally.
23:12 matey; but on an sbc, good luck.
23:12 MinceR; maybe i'll try that netbsd thing once i can do it on a spare laptop with lots of ssd space
23:12 matey; dont know what youre worried about, i dont use anything that cant work on modest equipment.
23:13 MinceR; i just miss having a free unix system that actually worked reliably
23:13 MinceR; the industry used to be capable of this a few decades ago
23:13 MinceR; now all i have is several flavors of unreliable crap to choose from
23:13 matey; the industry is becoming more capitalist and gives fewer fucks than ever
23:14 matey; they benefit from pushing people towards the clown
23:14 schestowitz-TR; matey: with all due respect, I don't share that experience at all
23:14 schestowitz-TR; 2 decades ago a 'free unix' was no fun to install and stuf
23:14 schestowitz-TR; it was hard
23:14 MinceR; back in the day even the freedesktop crap worked reliably
23:14 SomeH4x0r; hi matey
23:14 schestowitz-TR; once you dealt with certain peripherals and applications and web pages
23:14 MinceR; i could configure whatever with GUI
23:14 schestowitz-TR; now it's mostly a breeze for me
23:14 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: 0
23:14 matey; with all due respect, I don't share that experience at all <- roy with all due respect, i think your experience is tainted with political prejudice and deliberate bullshit. with that said, bsd isnt ready for everyone of course
23:14 MinceR; now i need to be lucky for things to function at all
23:15 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: I was gonna point out to you an article two days ago
23:15 schestowitz-TR; from our 'friend' bbyfield
23:15 MinceR; is he worth paying attention to?
23:15 matey; hi SomeH4x0r
23:15 schestowitz-TR; about how you should give kde plasma another chance
23:15 SomeH4x0r; come to TWISTED
23:15 schestowitz-TR; KDE is very good now, I'd never want to go back to KDE3
23:15 MinceR; lol
23:15 matey; <MinceR> is he worth paying attention to? <- he and his boss both signed the anti-rms letter, byfield published lies about rms he never retracted
23:15 matey; hes a corporate whore
23:16 SomeH4x0r; might try to invite barto here as well
23:16 matey; but ymmv
23:16 schestowitz-TR; notice I don't even mention KDE4, which still runs on one of my laptops
23:16 schestowitz-TR; matey: he was a long time ago
23:16 schestowitz-TR; he and I were on the radio together around 2006
23:16 SomeH4x0r; told them
23:16 schestowitz-TR; he always took a pro-Novell, pro-Mono, almost pro-Microsoft line
23:16 matey; matey: he was a long time ago <- cleaning up their act is rare and not a given at all
23:17 schestowitz-TR; he also bashed Groklaw a lot
23:17 matey; he always took a pro-Novell, pro-Mono, almost pro-Microsoft line <- and hes worse than ever
23:17 MinceR; but then again, back in the day gnome aimed for functionality and flexibility
23:17 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: he's irrelevant
23:17 MinceR; they even gave you a control center applet to choose which window manager you wanted
23:17 matey; then again, back in the day gnome aimed for functionality and flexibilit <- mate is better than gnome
23:17 MinceR; now it's just a macos clone which doesn't even work
23:17 schestowitz-TR; he write a column or two for Linux Mag once a month
23:17 matey; because its gnome when it was better
23:17 schestowitz-TR; *wrote
23:17 MinceR; even the keyboard stops responding randomly in gnome
23:17 MinceR; mate was forked too late
23:17 MinceR; well after gnome went to shit
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23:18 schestowitz-TR; try LMDE, MinceR
23:18 SomeH4x0r; hi
23:18 barto; howdy
23:18 schestowitz-TR; you might like it, I tried it last month
23:18 MinceR; i gave up on DEs
23:18 MinceR; that's why i went back to fvwm
23:18 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: openbox still?
23:18 matey; hi barto
23:18 MinceR; howdy-ho
23:18 schestowitz-TR; I used openbox for years
23:18 MinceR; no, openbox has a common and annoying bug with mousefocus
23:18 barto; we meet at last, matey
23:18 matey; indeed
23:18 schestowitz-TR; because KDE was becoming too fat for 2GB of RAM laptop
23:18 MinceR; if it has to switch focus too many times in a short time, it sometimes forgets to switch focus
23:18 matey; hi
23:19 MinceR; so you end up with the focus on a window the pointer is not in
23:19 schestowitz-TR; hi, barto
23:19 *schestowitz-TR goes back to hunting freesw links
23:19 barto; hi matey and schestowitz-TR
23:19 barto; :)
23:19 MinceR; isn't LMDE just another systemd distro?
23:19 schestowitz-TR; I tried devuan also
23:20 matey; isn't LMDE just another systemd distro? <- yes
23:20 schestowitz-TR; didn't get far because of realtek being RealDreck
23:20 matey; plus its shit anyway
23:21 matey; fair warning barto, if you want to learn about freesw schestowitz-TR and i will tell you very different things
23:21 matey; hes the optimist. im about starting over now that the movement is fucked
23:22 barto; i don't know much about the freesw movement but i'm interested in it
23:22 matey; you dont have to choose a side about the two of us, but later on (someday) for a working freesw movement you may need to
23:22 matey; theres a lot to learn and theres no rush
23:23 matey; things are a mess right now, not unlike europe at the moment
23:23 barto; there is a site i've encountered recently though
23:23 barto; i think it was called gng?
23:23 matey; oh?
23:23 matey; gng?
23:23 barto; talking about why gnu is bad
23:23 barto; yup
23:23 barto; i'll look for a link
23:23 matey; gnu isnt bad, its just been co-opted
23:24 matey; yeah ill be happy to critique it
23:24 barto; matey: gng.z505.com
23:24 matey; ill have a loot
23:24 barto; seems to have some articles
23:25 barto; didn't look much into it though
23:25 matey; Stallman Speaks on Security (is he dumb?) September 2016 <- this site looks pretty trollish
23:25 matey; im happy to keep looking but
23:25 barto; looked the same to me tbh
23:25 matey; i dont think gng will teach you much
23:25 matey; im critical of gnu but differently
23:26 matey; im also critical of most (sometimes all) alternatives
23:26 matey; do you know the 4 freedoms?
23:26 barto; from 0 to 3
23:27 matey; cool
23:27 matey; so those are good, and stallman wrote them
23:27 matey; the trick of free software is making it so people have those :)
23:27 matey; preferably with all of their software
23:27 matey; and thats where it gets messy. but im still in favour of that goal
23:28 matey; "open source" pretends to have the same goal, i personally think its bullshit (lies)
23:28 barto; yeah
23:28 matey; maybe it wasnt always, but i think it always had problems telling the truth
23:28 barto; open source isn't the same as free
23:28 matey; right
23:28 matey; so youre a step ahead of me when i started
23:28 matey; when i started, open source seems nice. it is nice. lie-to-your-face nice.
23:28 TR News; Euro Truck Simulator 2 gets a new modern trailer and a fresh Beta | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/euro-truck-simulator-2-gets-a-new-modern-trailer-and-a-fresh-beta/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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23:28 TR Bot; Truck Simulator 2 gets a new modern trailer and a fresh Beta | GamingOnLinux
23:29 matey; but i feel for that first, thats why i tell everyone what a scam it is
23:29 matey; free software is better, but has plenty of its own issues
23:29 matey; including (imo) being taken over by open source. thats where we are now.
23:29 matey; in my opinion.
23:29 matey; i work with other people who share this opinion, so its not ONLY mine
23:30 matey; but free software itself... good luck getting them to talk about how they were taken over
23:30 matey; they just want to "move on"
23:30 matey; you know like if you come home and your dads killing your mom, and after the courts let him go he just wants to "move on"
23:30 matey; "but why did you"
23:30 matey; "drop it! talk about something else"
23:30 matey; i mean everything is bullshit right now
23:31 barto; i feel that, my friend
23:31 matey; we had two libreplanets this year. theyre annual.
23:31 matey; so maybe we had two 2022s this year, who knows.
23:31 MinceR; :>
23:31 matey; mincer does that when someone says something he likes (or hates the same way)
23:32 matey; hes the smartest person in here
23:32 matey; but cynical as fucking fuck
23:33 TR News; Snal 1.17 is out https://snallinux.sourceforge.io/
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23:33 TR Bot; Linux download | SourceForge.net
23:33 TR News; Games: Euro Truck Simulator 2, Dwerve, and Lilas Sky Ark Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164002
23:33 TR Bot; Games: Euro Truck Simulator 2, Dwerve, and Lila's Sky Ark | Tux Machines
23:33 matey; being really smart always makes you either cynical or autistic
23:33 matey; mincer went with cynical
23:34 matey; i dont entirely blame him of course
23:34 TR News; FreeBSD 13.1-RC4 is ready. Web site not updated to say this (yet) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2022-04-14:1
23:34 TR Bot; FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD Project
23:34 activelow; server os, desktop os, that's marketing quackery
23:34 matey; being autistic has various release valves for cynicism. like anime.
23:34 matey; <activelow> server os, desktop os, that's marketing quackery <- i dont entirely disagree
23:35 matey; it doesnt really change the point i was making, though it DOES reveal some interesting details about it
23:36 TR News; Debian Project Leader election 2022, Jonathan Carter re-elected Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164003 He did a good job. Better than his two predecessors. Also sent me some polite Emails.
23:36 TR Bot; Debian Project Leader election 2022, Jonathan Carter re-elected | Tux Machines
23:36 matey; the best way to be more free though, as it was in thoreaus time, is to be more minimalist
23:36 matey; minimalism can be a trap-- you dont have to be the most minimalist person there is, even if there are (regular) pissing matches about it
23:36 matey; those shouldnt be taken seriously. id say everybody wins, but
23:37 activelow; ultra conservative
23:37 matey; more like, if you CAN win, it doesnt matter how
23:37 matey; at least regarding minimalism
23:37 SomeH4x0r; matey: digdeeper's XMPP chatroom seems to have certain people with views similar to mine and possibly yours, though idk if it has any meaning to you, if you have something to say against XMPP.
23:37 TR News; Liam Dawe on latest in Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163988#comment-33414
23:37 TR Bot; Proton 7.0-2 Makes More Games Playable on Linux, Fixes Numerous Bugs | Tux Machines
23:38 matey; yeah im familiar with digdeeper
23:38 matey; i dont really do xmpp though
23:38 matey; maybe ill give into the temptation later
23:38 SomeH4x0r; I will keep reminding him about techrights website and IRC sometimes
23:38 activelow; and yes, just compiled my _entire_ distro on a low-power ARM cortex a53 quadcore (5Watts) in 4hours, after cleanup with removal of GTK this went down from 10hours to 4h
23:38 SomeH4x0r; because he might like it too
23:38 TR News; "Dirk Hohndel was CTO at SUSE going back to the mid-90's before joining Intel for a fifteen year run that ended in 2016" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dirk-Hohndel-Blockchain
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23:38 TR Bot; Linux/Open-Source Supporter Joins A Blockchain Foundation - Phoronix
23:39 activelow; with tinycc, i estimate, it will be twice as fast at least
23:39 matey; my experience with the new generation of people like digdeeper is a mix
23:39 matey; on the one hand, they give you the opportunity to be critical of some things that we need to be critical about
23:39 matey; on the other hand, a lot of it is deja vu from my brief stint with open source
23:39 matey; its more about being COOL than being free
23:40 SomeH4x0r; he says to be 42 year old man iirc, not sure if it applies to new generation
23:40 matey; fair point
23:40 matey; i may have imagined he was younger
23:40 matey; or lumped him in with people who actually are
23:40 matey; some people like luke smith too, im completely unimpressed
23:41 SomeH4x0r; he said he used to be on IRC once, when he was invited to a dead chatroom
23:41 SomeH4x0r; *channel
23:41 matey; this channel is dead for at least a few hours every day
23:41 matey; as are most, this one less so
23:41 barto; is luke smith bad?
23:41 SomeH4x0r; 23:23:26 - digdeeper: I might come to IRC someday, but probably won't stick around. I mean, is there a better place than this?
23:41 SomeH4x0r; 23:23:30 - digdeeper: I've been at IRC anyway already
23:41 SomeH4x0r; 23:23:37 - digdeeper: acz invited me
23:41 matey; freenode is (and was) a gulag, most irc is shit
23:41 SomeH4x0r; 23:23:39 - digdeeper: to a dead chatroom
23:42 matey; barto: i wonder if theres anything youd like to accomplish short-term, or if you just want more information?
23:43 matey; have you tried any free software? or thought about installing a free os?
23:43 barto; i try to limit my use of proprietary software
23:43 matey; thats good
23:44 barto; i am thinking of switch into a free OS but at the same time i'm kinda forced to use Windows
23:44 matey; that happens
23:44 SomeH4x0r; the invasion of tech by governments and corporations will eventually make me lose my hobby and so the desire to continue existing
23:44 TR News; https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-April/000718.html
23:44 TR Bot; FreeBSD 13.1-RC3 Now Available
23:44 TR News; RC4 not yet in the archive https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2022-April/index.html
23:44 TR Bot; freebsd-stable: Production branch of FreeBSD source code: by thread
23:44 SomeH4x0r; not much faith in society
23:45 matey; <SomeH4x0r> the invasion of tech by governments and corporations will eventually make me lose my hobby <- i dont think its as bad as that
23:45 matey; even though we are absolutely headed in that direction
23:45 matey; roy and i both think there will be some kind of turnaround
23:45 matey; we disagree (strongly) on the details
23:45 matey; mostly we need people to fight this
23:45 SomeH4x0r; I'd say it is unlikely. Why would people suddenly realize something is wrong when they are boiling frogs?
23:46 matey; not just talk about it, but (when possible) DO SOMETHING and make changes
23:46 matey; first of all, frogs dont actually boil that way
23:46 SomeH4x0r; they don't understand what is happening and they think corporations are good
23:46 matey; second of all, people dont either. well, they do. and they dont.
23:47 matey; they don't understand what is happening and they think corporations are good <- i mean, im an anti-capitalist at this point
23:47 matey; there are many
23:47 SomeH4x0r; they are addicted to their crippled PCs ("smartphones") and they won't go doing revolutions because they won't be happy without these crippled PCs anymore
23:47 SomeH4x0r; see I'm affected as well, just with less crippled PCs
23:47 TR News; Installed Ubuntu 22.04? Do These Things Next! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163981#comment-33415
23:47 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
23:47 matey; and they won't go doing revolutions because they won't be happy without these crippled PCs <- unions are growing in power right now
23:47 matey; thats a good sign
23:47 SomeH4x0r; moreover, governments will enforce crippled PC usage even more later
23:47 matey; not just for "reform" either
23:48 matey; reform itself is... half a revolution
23:48 SomeH4x0r; microchips need to be banned forever
23:48 matey; governments will enforce crippled PC usage even more <- ive been watching that trend for a decade or two
23:48 SomeH4x0r; they are by design non-reverse-engineerable at home
23:48 SomeH4x0r; lose of control begins at them
23:48 matey; its bad, but, it always looks worse because the warnings dont take the resulting backlash into account
23:49 TR News; Kubuntu 22.04 LTS Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163981#comment-33416
23:49 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
23:49 matey; they are by design non-reverse-engineerable at home <- if you want to see the state of reverse-engineering, its pretty fucking impressive
23:49 SomeH4x0r; I see TPMs and eFuses
23:49 matey; the only thing the industry can really do is destroy itself. thats too glib to be TOO hopeful about, because, it will take A LOT with it
23:50 matey; i mean the more we sit on our arses and say "itll be fine" the worse it will be.
23:50 matey; but its really NOT hopeless.
23:50 matey; just REALLY REALLY bad.
23:50 SomeH4x0r; not hopeless, but I have no faith in society to do sane revolutions
23:50 matey; so bad that most reasonable WOULD think its hopeless, without a bigger picture to look at.
23:51 matey; I have no faith in society to do sane revolutions <- has there ever been a sane revolution?
23:51 SomeH4x0r; no idea
23:51 matey; i mean lets start with history
23:51 matey; well, if your school was anything like mine, it didnt teach you shit about revolution
23:51 activelow; alot of the damage is ireversible
23:51 matey; why would it? its run by the governments and the governments are run by corporations
23:51 matey; <activelow> alot of the damage is ireversible <- some of it, absolutely
23:52 activelow; most of it
23:52 matey; nah
23:52 matey; well
23:52 matey; maybe a little more than half-- subject to increase.
23:52 matey; the longer we wait, the more we will lose
23:52 activelow; remove all GTK and QT, and see what remains
23:53 matey; remove all GTK and QT, and see what remains <- beauty that people find difficult to appreciate
23:53 matey; but they want a kardashian desktop environment
23:53 matey; (kde)
23:53 matey; or a kanye desktop (gnome)
23:53 matey; which, sorry, thats a little unfair to kanye
23:54 TR News; Microsoft spam. El Reg promotes it. Meanwhile, Azure is failing, has layoffs. They name just one client! https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/21/kraft_heinz_azure_migration/
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23:54 TR Bot; Kraft Heinz to move infrastructure into Microsoft's Azure The Register
23:54 matey; who is many things, but not as batshit nuts as gnome is
23:54 activelow; i bet, motif widgets can be themed too, to look slightly different than the default
23:54 matey; tk can be themed really nicely, its just you wont see people bothering to :)
23:55 matey; so tk will always be ugly, because its never wearing makeup. but there IS makeup available.
23:55 SomeH4x0r; a computer is to do job, not to look "good"
23:55 matey; you know that, and i know that
23:55 SomeH4x0r; I hate these design which waste resources for nothing
23:55 matey; but lots of people havent figured that out
23:55 activelow; i prefer a non-distracting interface
23:56 matey; also im not against good looks. im against bullshit, which is what usually comes with good looks
23:56 MinceR; keeping up with the cardassians
23:56 matey; like that episode of ds9 when kira found out that the station still had cardassian secure boot installed
23:57 matey; and they had to find a way to deactivate it
23:57 MinceR; :>
23:57 SomeH4x0r; if a sane revolution ever happens, we need to get rid of current personal computer. There is no way evil microchips can exist in a sane society.
23:58 matey; if a sane revolution ever happens, we need to get rid of current personal computer <- there are actually protocols for making personal computers "SECURE ENOUGH" for that sort of thing
23:58 matey; a good start is keeping phones in a faraday bag when not in use. but thats no good unless you also have protocols about when to open the bag and when not to.
23:59 activelow; it is the industry and the majority of their following, who ignited a revolution, against mental health of a hacker
23:59 activelow; and science
23:59 matey; like those idiots who recently painted a big radio "laser" on a secure base ffs
23:59 SomeH4x0r; the microchips are a way corporations control society. They need to be all destroyed, and the progress of computing needs to be reverted by decades.
23:59 activelow; https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-says-he-has-465-billion-for-twitter-takeover-bid/a-61547494
23:59 TR Bot; Musk says he has $46.5 billion for Twitter takeover bid | News | DW | 21.04.2022
23:59 TR News; Debian Project Leader Election 2022 Results http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164003#comment-33418
23:59 TR Bot; Debian Project Leader election 2022, Jonathan Carter re-elected | Tux Machines
23:59 matey; but i mean, not carrying a phone is great. they can still mic the bushes, just like northern ireland used to
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