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00:00 activelow; it is the _technical_ qualities of this
00:00 SomeH4x0r; most people from UplinkIRC who bother to install proper IRC client usually don't stay for long, so idk
00:00 matey; the thing is, you cant do some languages without it
00:00 activelow; besides the political nuance
00:00 matey; i mean you could if you forket it
00:00 matey; but like, if you want to do arabic. or hindi.
00:00 matey; good luck without harfbuzz
00:00 matey; and i fucking hate it
00:00 activelow; to keep X11 with a terminal emulator, i chose an rxvt fork, which even got CJK, and greek if desired
00:00 SomeH4x0r; a few days most of the time
00:00 matey; its github. its anti-rms (like gnupg)
00:01 matey; obviously in the vt harfbuzz serves no purpose
00:01 SomeH4x0r; what did GnuPG do against rms?
00:01 matey; as far as i know... this means the vt cannot do arabic or hindi. which is quite interesting imo
00:01 activelow; now, please, explain to me, why arab/farsi/hindi require harfbuzz/c++ and sabotated GTK2/3 with it
00:01 matey; <SomeH4x0r> what did GnuPG do against rms? <- nothing, just koch did
00:01 matey; first, he stabbed stallman in the back
00:01 matey; then, he stabbed gnu in the back
00:02 activelow; appropos GPG, i kept v1.4 of it, and blacklisted gpg-2
00:02 matey; does that work? security wise?
00:02 SomeH4x0r; is Koch the leader of the project or someone else?
00:02 matey; is Koch the leader of the project <- very much so!
00:02 activelow; yes matey, and integration with the software i chose is perfect
00:03 matey; but the point is, i still have gnupg in my fork of the fsd (under protest)
00:03 matey; because we actually need it
00:03 matey; similarly, if you want to write in hindi
00:03 matey; you need harfbuzz
00:03 matey; which i fucking hate
00:04 matey; but i can find no way around it. maybe some clever person can, godspeed
00:04 activelow; to write hindi, it must be implemented without any c++ dependency graph
00:04 activelow; which greek and cjk could too
00:04 matey; to write hindi, it must be implemented without any c++ dependency graph <- only for you, you know
00:04 matey; i mean, i appreciate what youre doing wrt c++
00:04 matey; but i havent personally blacklisted it yet, you know
00:04 activelow; c++ is only one acceptance criteria, besides the chaos inside GTK2/3
00:04 matey; like the real problem here is gcc AND llvm
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00:05 activelow; and for the hindi/farsi whatnot support, GTK2/3 was sabotaged
00:05 matey; besides the chaos inside GTK2/3 <- well, wrt gtk 2/3
00:05 matey; i wont do gtk4 except for 3 applications.
00:05 matey; thats it
00:05 matey; the rest are dead
00:05 matey; i dont like gtk3, id rather use gtk2.
00:05 matey; and id rather not use gtk2, but a fork of it might be ok if it ever moves the fuck off github
00:05 activelow; reminder, GTK devs did implement gobject to _avoid_ c++; and then one maniac screwed harfbuzz into, and with it two decades of man power are void
00:06 matey; reminder, GTK devs did implement gobject to _avoid_ c++ <- i mean, gnome is fuckity fucking fuck, to put it nicely
00:06 activelow; not GNOME, GTK
00:06 matey; gtk shouldnt be gnome, wasnt gnome, it is now
00:06 matey; listen, theyre the same thing now
00:07 activelow; i mean, QT4/5 were gone already, and i hoped for GTK2/3 could remain
00:07 matey; no gtk without gnome (anymore) unless its mate
00:07 matey; i mean, QT4/5 were gone already, and i hoped for GTK2/3 could remain <- i hear you
00:07 activelow; and i still think it is possible to fix this issue, yet it is too many to cope with
00:07 matey; its a fucking disaster
00:07 matey; and i still think it is possible to fix this issue <- SO DO I, fuck knows how, but somehow, yes
00:07 activelow; i had wanted to hack TinyCC many weeks ago already... see the shit i have to cope with instead
00:07 matey; yes, i hear you
00:07 matey; even those who criticise you on the details must know
00:08 matey; the overall picture is about as ridiculous as you say
00:08 matey; maybe not exactly the same, but
00:08 matey; if any of my associates ask me, ill tell them
00:08 matey; the overall picture is more or less like you say
00:08 matey; with some caveats
00:08 matey; i mean if you can nitpick i can nitpick
00:08 matey; but its a disaster, just as you say
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00:09 matey; and i think people are coming to realise this. not fast enough-- its nothing to be hopeful about yet
00:09 matey; but its not like its JUST YOU saying this
00:09 matey; or only you that thinks this (overall)
00:09 matey; we can disagree on details
00:09 matey; "its a bad scene"
00:10 matey; everyones looking for a way for things to be "fine"
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00:10 matey; use bsd and its fine. well, almost. sort of.
00:10 matey; not quite "fine" but some move in that direction
00:10 matey; with a lot of work, of course
00:11 activelow; bsd -> llvm, no thanks
00:11 matey; i know, llvm is shit
00:11 matey; i had no idea how bad it was
00:11 matey; its pretty bleak, the fuck were they thinking?
00:11 activelow; i don't say it is, i am not against c++, i am against it being _enforced_ where it does not belong, such as into kernel
00:11 matey; bad enough it was github, but ffs
00:11 matey; i am not against c++, i am against it being _enforced_ where it does not belong <- i know
00:11 activelow; if kernel can be compiled with a c++ compiler only, that's unacceptable
00:12 matey; its the lack of options that makes the whole thing a farce
00:12 matey; you have freedom 3 in theory, and in practice you can shove llvm up your arse, wheeeeeee
00:12 matey; its gotchas over here, over there, its a gotcha block party
00:12 activelow; anyway, i'll remove gtk, and live with it
00:12 activelow; i'll not bother with this anymore
00:12 matey; anyway, i'll remove gtk, and live with it \o/
00:13 activelow; i'll not at least bother with anything outside the base system
00:13 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/19/radiator-flush-fail-dexcool-sludge-plugs-up-my-heater-core-after-flush/
00:13 TR Bot; Radiator Flush FAIL. DexCool Sludge plugs up my heater core after flush. BaronHK's Rants
00:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
00:13 activelow; X11 isn't as important, nonetheless, it is nice to have it, with a terminal emulator supporting CJK and greek
00:13 matey; flush, flush
00:13 matey; hurry hurry baby, run to me
00:13 matey; ooh. what ya do to me
00:14 activelow; i'll give Knuth TeX a try, although it is not compatible with GPL, at least chances are i can keep it
00:14 matey; although it is not compatible with GPL <- im sceptical, how is it incompatible?
00:14 activelow; ^ Knuth license
00:14 matey; hmmmmmm
00:14 activelow; it isn't any problem for me
00:15 DaemonFC; This will be the third flush in a week.
00:15 activelow; i'll comply with his license terms
00:15 DaemonFC; Actually, more than that.
00:15 schestowitz-TR; Knuth license??
00:15 matey; Unlimited copying and redistribution of this package and/or its individual files are permitted as long as there are no modifications. Modifications, and redistribution of modifications, are also permitted, but only if the resulting package and/or files are renamed
00:15 DaemonFC; Car-X charged me like $99 for the first one, then I lost coolant with the tensioner job at Chevy, then Chevy flushed it again today for free and got the heater working for a few minutes.
00:15 activelow; and, given Knuth promises his software and books do not contain errors, chances are no chances are necessary
00:15 matey; https://www.ctan.org/license/knuth
00:15 TR Bot; CTAN: Knuth License
00:16 DaemonFC; Then tomorrow Chevy does the Blue Devil flush and I'm hoping that eats up all the yummy yummy DexCool mud.
00:16 activelow; schestowitz-TR: Knuth license is permissive, yet re-distribution with _changes_ is only permitted if renamed
00:16 activelow; meaning, you must not label it Knuth TeX if anything was altered
00:16 DaemonFC; I guess the upside here is that all of the larger crap is out because anything that came out with the regular flush is already gone.
00:16 DaemonFC; So all the Blue Devil has to eat is what's left that's plugging the system.
00:17 matey; thats a non-free license thats almost free in spirit (but it doesnt fit the fsd as far as i can tell)
00:17 activelow; i think Knuth is concerned with introduction of bugs, which aren't a feature
00:18 schestowitz-TR; weird licence
00:18 DaemonFC; I can see why they were calling this stuff DeathCool.
00:18 DaemonFC; Glad I have the enhanced engine gaskets so a plugged up heater core is the worst of it. :P
00:18 matey; there are SIMILAR clauses in (gpl compatible) cc by-sa (4.0 only) but youre only required to NOTE changes, not name files based on them
00:18 matey; and that makes a world of difference
00:19 matey; at least in terms of whether its fsd-compatible or not
00:19 activelow; i'll know soon enough, given Knuth TeX was introduced 1976, 45years ago, if it is functional still
00:19 schestowitz-TR; it's just another redundant licence
00:19 schestowitz-TR; maybe for DOnald's ego
00:19 matey; http://tug.ctan.org/info/impatient/book.pdf TEX for the Impatient is intended to serve scientists, mathematicians, and technical typists for whom TEX is a useful tool rather than a primary interest, as well as computer people who have a strong interest in TEX for its own sake. We also intend it to serve both newcomers to TEX and those who are already familiar with TEX.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; a lot of licences already cover the branding aspects
00:19 matey; <schestowitz-TR> maybe for DOnald's ego <- no
00:19 matey; it was for reliability
00:19 schestowitz-TR; it I alter firefox a little I cannot call it firefox either
00:19 matey; but misguided imo
00:20 activelow; and i do not know yet, if/how postscript output can be generated without any c++ dependency (gnuplot,ghostscript)
00:20 matey; it achieves his goal but
00:20 schestowitz-TR; and I don't need an old stanford professor to make another licence for that
00:20 matey; that doesnt mean its not overkill
00:20 matey; and I don't need an old stanford professor <- knuth is up there with stallman in importance
00:20 schestowitz-TR; yes, I know
00:20 matey; that doesnt mean i think this was a good idea, but give the man his due
00:20 schestowitz-TR; but we don't have the RMS licence
00:21 matey; oh youre making too much of a name
00:21 activelow; problem isn't the Knuth license, problem is his TeX isn't maintained inside the gentoo tree here
00:21 schestowitz-TR; imagine if each project had it own licence -- or worse -- each developer
00:21 matey; look, science names things after people all the time
00:21 schestowitz-TR; it would be disarray for code reusew
00:21 matey; only this movement finds it garish
00:21 matey; i get it, i agree mostly
00:21 matey; but that doesnt make knuth an egotist, just a scientist.
00:21 matey; different culture.
00:21 matey; its not about his ego
00:21 matey; its about cultural norms
00:21 schestowitz-TR; rms and knuth both like their word
00:21 schestowitz-TR; *work
00:21 schestowitz-TR; nothing wrong with that
00:22 schestowitz-TR; and they protect their image to the best of their abilities
00:22 schestowitz-TR; the licence, however, leads to practical problems
00:22 matey; of course
00:22 schestowitz-TR; like having to keep track of which licence is what
00:22 matey; its an unfortunate license at best
00:22 matey; well, to be fair
00:22 schestowitz-TR; perens spoke about it
00:22 schestowitz-TR; wanting to narrow it down to 3 licences
00:22 matey; im guessing this predates osi
00:22 matey; and anyone giving a shit what perens thinks
00:22 matey; maybe im wrong about the timing
00:23 matey; when computer science was younger, we didnt have best practices like gpl compatibility. it didnt exist yet
00:23 matey; its like expecting multics to be posix compliant
00:23 matey; or dtss
00:23 matey; posix didnt exist yet
00:24 matey; so things that were revolutionary for their time, seem conservative or misguided now
00:24 matey; thats progress
00:24 matey; but you have to keep them in some context when judging the people who made these decisions
00:24 schestowitz-TR; latex I've not used in years
00:24 schestowitz-TR; but that's mostly because I don't write letters or papers
00:25 matey; tex is still highly relevant, there are gny projects associated with it
00:25 schestowitz-TR; latex will not age gracefully outside academia
00:25 schestowitz-TR; because of all this clown and web hype
00:25 matey; my guess is that tex is so important, that whats more important than knuths license or its implementation-- is compatible software
00:25 schestowitz-TR; they teach people to not have files, either
00:25 schestowitz-TR; just open "account"
00:25 matey; <schestowitz-TR> latex will not age gracefully outside academia <- i dont know what makes you think that
00:25 schestowitz-TR; knuth did a lot of literature on algorithms
00:26 schestowitz-TR; latex may not be his most important contribution
00:26 activelow; LaTeX/xetex/jadetex/... texlive -> c++
00:26 matey; yes, einstein did a lot of literature on physics
00:26 schestowitz-TR; and leslie sold out to the criminals from microsoft about 15 years ago
00:26 matey; <schestowitz-TR> knuth did a lot of literature on algorithms <- for a german thats a very british level of understatement
00:26 matey; <schestowitz-TR> and leslie sold out <- leslie who
00:26 schestowitz-TR; the latex guy
00:27 matey; oh yeah
00:27 schestowitz-TR; speaking of germany, lyx is german
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00:27 matey; latex != tex
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00:27 schestowitz-TR; made by the person who later made kde
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00:27 matey; speaking of germany, lyx is german <- made by the person who later made kde <- mmhmm
00:27 matey; i think i discovered this the other day
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00:27 matey; i try to pay attention to lyx/latex/tex
00:27 matey; a lot for someone who never used any of these
00:27 *schestowitz-TR just got his arse kicked
00:28 schestowitz-TR; I did not spend much time studying kile
00:28 schestowitz-TR; the latax toolset seems to not be evolving anymore
00:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe it's considered feature-complete
00:28 matey; im not sure it ought to
00:28 matey; what the industry deems "evolution" looks a lot like inbreeding to me
00:28 schestowitz-TR; except when they will nee EMOJIS inside equations
00:29 matey; <schestowitz-TR> maybe it's considered feature-complete <- when things are actually planned top to bottom, thats a reasonable conclusion
00:29 matey; theres an aspect of computer science that is actually scientific
00:29 matey; and then the rest of course, is industry bullshit. by and large.
00:30 matey; science evolves, but not via fashion.
00:30 matey; fashion "evolves" more quickly, because a lot of it is arbitrary
00:31 matey; industry is where the tension between the two is most pronounced
00:32 matey; when industry talks about evolution, you should just put your hand over its mouth-- or at least over your ears
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00:32 matey; like when a politician is speaking, check your waller
00:32 matey; wallet
00:32 activelow; at least x11-libs/motif compiled
00:33 matey; motif has a certain charm
00:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I'm probably just going to flush out the coolant system every year if they can get it unjammed tomorrow.
00:33 DaemonFC; Don't want this happening again.
00:34 matey; situation nowhere
00:34 matey; flush for a change of atmosphere
00:34 DaemonFC; They put those "dealer stickers" on your windshield saying 5,000 mile oil change, but the computer is actually pretty advanced.
00:34 TR News; W3C, you are a JOKE! This isn't open Web! It's a proprietary mess! This is what vendor-captured orgs look like... and what they do. Like ISO with OOXML. Take some proprietary junk and pretend it can be passed off as 'standards' https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9509
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00:34 TR Bot; WebAssembly 2.0 First Public Working Drafts | W3C News
00:34 DaemonFC; It can make a fairly reasonable guess as to how often you really need an oil change.
00:35 DaemonFC; You need to check the level occasionally, but other than that, listening to a modern oil service life monitor isn't unreasonable.
00:35 DaemonFC; In many cases, the sticker will say every 5,000 miles, but the car will be able to come up with a figure higher than that, like 7,000 or more.
00:35 DaemonFC; It's important because oil changes do cost money.
00:36 DaemonFC; If you can get 7,000 instead of 5,000, that might get you all through the year.
00:36 TR News; Proprietary software! "520 vulnerabilities across multiple products" !!!!!!! 520!!!! https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/19/oracle-releases-april-2022-critical-patch-update "A remote attacker could exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." Oracle came from CIA. True story.
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00:36 matey; old buick = linux | new impala = systemd | hot rod = bsd
00:36 DaemonFC; You need a good full synthetic and decent filter, but annual or 7,500 miles is not a bad idea.
00:37 DaemonFC; matey, They stopped making the Impala in 2020.
00:37 DaemonFC; The salesman wanted to sell me one.
00:37 matey; s/new/newer/
00:37 schestowitz-TR; old buick = systemd (impalama) with mac OS X-like GTK theme on top
00:37 DaemonFC; They started at almost $60,000.
00:37 matey; old buick = systemd (impalama) with mac OS X-like GTK theme on top <- you just want ryan to feel stupid for doing something (relatively) reasonable
00:38 matey; i can appreciate what hes trying to do. not that i want a buick per se
00:38 DaemonFC; That's pretty crazy considering it's an Impala and this was well before Bidenflation and what GM has become.
00:38 schestowitz-TR; we don't know yet how much this car will cost
00:38 schestowitz-TR; it's work in progress
00:38 matey; we don't know yet how much this car will cost <- no, so you make the best decision out of the options available
00:38 matey; somehow thats not good enough for you
00:38 DaemonFC; Oh it gets fun with buying a car on finance, Roy.
00:39 DaemonFC; With useless warranties that they marked up by triple.
00:39 schestowitz-TR; the old impala was cheaper to repair
00:39 DaemonFC; GAP insurance that's triple what your insurance would cost for newer car coverage.
00:39 matey; not as i understand it
00:39 DaemonFC; Interest.
00:39 matey; it falls apart and constantly wants more
00:39 DaemonFC; $1,400 "destination fee".
00:39 DaemonFC; $600 to "document that we sold it to you".
00:39 DaemonFC; $495 for "VIN etching, and everything on the lot is etched so we can't remove it.".
00:40 DaemonFC; Did I mention the $2,995 paint protection plan?
00:40 DaemonFC; <matey> it falls apart and constantly wants more
00:40 DaemonFC; That's basically a car in a nutshell, yeah.
00:40 matey; i mean the impala
00:40 DaemonFC; Especially that car.
00:40 matey; right
00:40 TR News; Radiator Flush FAIL. DexCool Sludge plugs up my heater core after flush. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/19/radiator-flush-fail-dexcool-sludge-plugs-up-my-heater-core-after-flush/ Source: baronhk
00:40 TR Bot; Radiator Flush FAIL. DexCool Sludge plugs up my heater core after flush. BaronHK's Rants
00:40 DaemonFC; I think the Buick just needs a couple more things and it's working fine other than that.
00:40 matey; so the buick, hopefully, does that less
00:41 matey; <DaemonFC> I think the Buick just needs a couple more things and it's working fine other than that. <- hurry, before roy starts saying its a pinto.
00:41 DaemonFC; If the heater had to get plugged up, it's nice that it did it in late April.
00:41 DaemonFC; Gives me plenty of time to work through this mess.
00:41 DaemonFC; We're pretty sure that the Blue Devil flush will nail this one down.
00:42 DaemonFC; GM says it normally works.
00:42 MinceR; don't they also say that about their cars?
00:42 matey; heh
00:42 DaemonFC; It says "Often the heater starts working again within minutes, but it is important to let it circulate for 4 hours.".
00:42 activelow; problem isn't if any of the recent "innovations" are wrecked, problem is if long-term stable software is unmaintained, is rotting, and disappears
00:43 DaemonFC; LTS releases are crusty by design.
00:43 DaemonFC; The banks don't even support ESR releases of Firefox.
00:43 DaemonFC; They yell at you to use the latest one.
00:43 DaemonFC; Even though the ESR is supported and nothing about the site's code has changed recently.
00:43 matey; i think lts was invented because ubuntu was based on testing in the first palce
00:43 activelow; firefox never was LTS/ESR etc.
00:43 matey; debian already had stable
00:44 matey; then ubuntu was like "testing is stable enough"
00:44 matey; "no wait, wait, heres lts"
00:44 activelow; the last firefox i had given a chanced was 3.6.28
00:44 matey; maybe that not how it went. thats how it looked.
00:44 matey; firefux
00:44 activelow; and now, given the situation with GTK, netsurf is gone too
00:45 matey; and now, given the situation with GTK, netsurf is gone tooand now, given the situation with GTK, netsurf is gone too <- is there unicode for the worlds tiniest fiddle?
00:45 activelow; although chances are, maybe, to fiddle motif around netsurf...
00:45 matey; jinx
00:45 matey; wget -O- http://techrights.org/irc/ | grep fiddle
00:45 activelow; otherwise, i can live with links to navigate the web, or gemini
00:46 matey; i can live with links to navigate the web, or gemini \o/
00:46 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/iclzdMK.mp4
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00:47 activelow; netsurf was rather pleasent, with wikipedia, and it could have been appealing, to non-hackers, to show kids, see there, you got wikipedia to read
00:48 activelow; links browser source didn't seem clean and stable
00:48 matey; schestowitz-TR xterm is not just ugly, MinceR there are many purely practical limitations in it <- some of those are tradeoffs
00:48 matey; xterm doesnt resize well :)
00:49 matey; it also doesnt render unicode fully
00:49 MinceR; i suspect neither will activelow's system :>
00:49 matey; which means it doesnt need harfbuzz and its also fucking fast as fuck
00:49 matey; no hes already cut out harfbuzz
00:50 matey; but show me a system that renders unicode properly and ill show you the pope with a cucumber in his arse
00:50 MinceR; nice
00:50 schestowitz-TR; lol
00:50 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: the pope?
00:50 MinceR; do you have the unicode for the pope with a cucumber in his arse?
00:51 matey; yes its 0xB16B00B5
00:51 matey; but it will never render
00:51 MinceR; :>
00:51 matey; it just looks like a rectangle
00:51 matey; but faith manages
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00:53 matey; to be fair, most (if not all) of the limitations apply to the vt as well
00:53 activelow; too much confusion, i mean, fontconfig/freetype are available, yet there is more: cairo, pango, harfbuzz... no idea why
00:54 matey; so if youre happy not running x, you should be happy with xterm (of course you should also have options)
00:54 activelow; then for X11, there is libxft, which is optional, to choose and render fonts
00:54 matey; cairo, pango, harfbuzz... no idea why <- we keep explaining why harfbuzz, at least
00:54 matey; i dont even want to
00:55 activelow; i do not need X11, yet X11 is available, including unicode fonts, which doesn't require any of this: cairo, pango, harfbuzz
00:55 matey; but its there, and pretending it serves no purpose wont make it so
00:55 matey; the vt does not give a better experience than x without harfbuzz, so if youre happy with xterm as your standard of displaying unicode (it displays some) then harfbuzz isnt necessary
00:56 MinceR; allegedly harfbuzz is necessary for the correct rendering of text for scripts such as arabic and indic
00:56 matey; this is phrased as "if" with good reason
00:56 activelow; xterm would be possible too, yet i do not trust the Unix98 pty implementation of linux kernel (security), so i am using BSD pty offered by kernel
00:56 activelow; and xterm dropped support for those...
00:56 matey; <MinceR> allegedly harfbuzz is necessary for the correct rendering of text for scripts such as arabic and indic <- i mean i made a virtual keyboard and saw it for myself.
00:56 matey; i hate harfbuzz, id LOVE to say why its useless
00:56 matey; i approach this scientifically. i dont always like the results.
00:56 MinceR; say it, then
00:57 matey; i dont like the author, i dont like the software
00:57 matey; let me know if you can display hindi or arabic properly without it
00:57 matey; i think youll find you have problems doing so
00:57 matey; but fuck would i love to be wrong
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00:58 matey; the good news is that its possible to speak hindi without using its own alphabet
00:58 matey; using just qzawsxedcrfvtgbyhnujmikolp
00:58 matey; but if you want devanagari...
00:58 matey; the vt wont do it properly
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00:59 activelow; matey: i would be curious myself, yet the question of hindi/farsi/arab etc. are agnostic towards unicode
00:59 matey; neither will my favourite toolkit for x, which is tk (which is hindi for "alright")
00:59 matey; tk theek hai
00:59 activelow; if i got a unicode-capable terminal, with a font, then it will render this
00:59 matey; because tk doesnt use harfbuzz
00:59 matey; but gtk (and gnome and kde and firefux and even emacs) does
00:59 activelow; with rxvt, fontconfig/freetype/unicode are possible... so what's missing except for a font?
01:00 matey; so what's missing except for a font? <- the ability to combine glyphs.
01:01 activelow; some problem could be the orientation right->left, yet, that's none of my concerns
01:01 matey; that's none of my concerns <- im pretty sure xterm can do left to right
01:01 matey; just not in the same way :)
01:01 activelow; if hindi/farsi/arab/hebrew want it, they can implement it themselves, without sabotaging GTK
01:01 matey; /me can write a program easily enough in his own language that does right to left
01:02 activelow; because, for them to read their hyroglyphs, they did it, sabotage GTK
01:02 matey; s/left to right/right to left/
01:02 matey; for them to read their hyroglyphs, they did it, sabotage GTK <- not hieroglyphs
01:02 matey; id be perfectly happy using a fork of harfbuzz
01:02 activelow; hieroglyphs
01:03 matey; its only unfortunate because microsoft controls it and some arsehole wrote it
01:03 activelow; it is ok, and necessary, to support it, it is _not_ ok to sabotage free software with it
01:03 matey; other than that, its not actually useless. I WISH IT WAS
01:03 matey; it is _not_ ok to sabotage free software with it <- i mean, you can use tk and be rid of it
01:03 matey; you can use the vt and be rid of it
01:03 matey; even with emacs
01:03 matey; just dont compile for x
01:04 activelow; X11 isn't the problem; it is GTK
01:04 MinceR; arabic does not only write from right to left, but also renders letters differently at the start, middle and end of word
01:04 MinceR; maybe also differently when they stand alone
01:04 activelow; they sabotaged GTK
01:04 activelow; (besides QT4/5 which are long gone before)
01:04 MinceR; iirc devanagari likes to combine glyphs
01:04 matey; sabotaged = supported more languages
01:04 matey; <MinceR> iirc devanagari likes to combine glyphs <- this is what i found when i combined them, yes
01:04 activelow; with sabotaged i mean sabotaged
01:04 activelow; they can support as many languages as they want, without sabotage
01:05 activelow; yet, they chose to sabotage
01:05 activelow; with the excuse, it was necessary, for their higher intellect of language
01:05 matey; <activelow> with sabotaged i mean sabotaged https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3MWpHQQ-wQg
01:05 TR Bot; A Bit of Fry & Laurie Concerning Language - Invidious
01:05 matey; "i thought you might"
01:06 matey; harfbuzz can also render this conversation: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1LopIroSjsU
01:06 TR Bot; A Bit of Fry and Laurie - Your name, sir? (Complete) - Invidious
01:06 MinceR; "i knew you'd say that"
01:06 DaemonFC; matey, The hood struts from China arrived today.
01:06 DaemonFC; The Chevy guy said he'd just put them on and not charge me to do it.
01:07 matey; he must appreciate what youre doing
01:07 matey; or find it funny, or both
01:07 DaemonFC; Because my car is a "hazard" to the shop employees and it's a quick job.
01:07 matey; heh
01:07 DaemonFC; Well, hey, they wanted to charge me $100 to do it a few days ago.
01:07 DaemonFC; Glad I held out.
01:07 matey; thats great
01:07 DaemonFC; I told him I already had some coming in from China.
01:07 matey; Because my car is a "hazard" <- think they mean youre trouble
01:07 DaemonFC; So they'll just take care of that tomorrow.
01:08 MinceR; duke of hazard
01:08 matey; maybe they saw the picture i put up behind the counter
01:08 matey; "just be nice to him and dont try to rip him off"
01:09 DaemonFC; I bought some more waterless car wash spray.
01:09 DaemonFC; If I get it on Walmart it's 15% off because of my credit card and Mandy's discount.
01:10 matey; whats in it
01:10 DaemonFC; There's about enough in each spray bottle to do a full cleaning of the car about 6 times. It costs me $7.09 a bottle after discount.
01:10 matey; so just over a dollar a wash
01:10 DaemonFC; So about $1.18 or so per wash vs paying the car wash $10.
01:10 matey; right
01:11 DaemonFC; I brought in the pile of microfiber cloths after going over the cars really good and put them in a bucket with Persil and took a toilet plunger and bounced them around in the hot water a couple times.
01:11 DaemonFC; Then dumped it all in the bushes out back.
01:11 DaemonFC; We're not fancy.
01:12 DaemonFC; Then I hooked up my portable washing machine once I got all the really nasty stuff out of them, and washed them all in hot water with 4 rinse cycles, then spun dry.
01:12 DaemonFC; Landlord pays for the water.
01:12 DaemonFC; So it's $1.18 plus electric to run the washer. Maybe $1.20 per wash. :)
01:13 DaemonFC; That's pretty cheap.
01:13 DaemonFC; I can wash the car about 7 or 8 months out of the year.
01:13 DaemonFC; If I was going through the wash every week paying $10 each, that's about 35 washes at the car wash rounded up a little.
01:14 DaemonFC; Or $350.
01:14 DaemonFC; I can do them myself for $42.
01:14 matey; math isnt my strong suit, but i think if you didnt get the discount it would still be less than $1.50
01:14 matey; maybe a dime less
01:14 DaemonFC; Then the last 4 months when it's cold and they spray salt and shit everywhere, I can subscribe to the car wash and go through it every day.
01:14 matey; per wash
01:14 DaemonFC; If I need to.
01:15 matey; there you go
01:15 matey; youre like tully in ghostbusters
01:15 matey; you would have made a killer accountant
01:15 DaemonFC; That takes me from $450 in car washing expenses per year to something more like $162.
01:16 matey; he was always finding ways to do more and have it cost less
01:16 DaemonFC; Saving $288, assuming that they don't raise the price at the car wash again.
01:16 DaemonFC; Things are crazy.
01:16 DaemonFC; I can stock up on car wash spray now.
01:16 matey; good stuff
01:17 DaemonFC; Mom's one of those old "Change the oil every 3,000 miles" people who doesn't do anything else to the car. Takes it to Walmart.
01:17 matey; youre sure this wash is good enough to prevent things like rust?
01:17 DaemonFC; Walmart charges her $48, which is only $11 less than paying the Chevy dealer to do it properly with the correct parts.
01:18 DaemonFC; She spends about $200 a year on oil changes when about $90 (1.5 changes per year on average) would suffice, and be done right, at the dealer.
01:19 DaemonFC; <matey> youre sure this wash is good enough to prevent things like rust?
01:19 DaemonFC; In the summer there's really not much on the road that risks severe corrosion.
01:19 DaemonFC; That's what the car wash subscription in the winter months will be for.
01:19 matey; in winter you take it to the car-- right
01:19 DaemonFC; Yeah, you get the cheapest subscription that includes undercarriage wash.
01:20 DaemonFC; And you go through every day letting it high pressure flush all of the salt out.
01:20 matey; there you go. you run your car costs like i run my computer.
01:20 matey; always looking for savings
01:20 DaemonFC; I did not anticipate needing 2 coolant flushes and a super flush in a week!
01:20 DaemonFC; That's never happened....
01:20 matey; does flushing too often cause problems? it must. note im not implying you do it too often
01:20 matey; im sure you wouldnt
01:21 DaemonFC; It doesn't.
01:21 matey; okay
01:21 DaemonFC; The lady left it in there probably 14 years.
01:21 DaemonFC; Long enough to separate and sludge.
01:21 matey; yeah
01:21 DaemonFC; When I flushed it, it plugged the heater core.
01:21 matey; heh
01:21 DaemonFC; With DexCool, they say 5 years, but I'd say if you want your car to last, do it every 2.
01:21 DaemonFC; Or else you might need the super flush every 3-4 years to get the heater to go again.
01:22 DaemonFC; On one of their newer ones that seem to sludge after 4 years.
01:22 DaemonFC; You don't want the $249 super flush every 4 years and pray they don't have to swap out the heater core for $1,200 anyway.
01:23 DaemonFC; :)
01:23 DaemonFC; You want the $99 coolant flush special every 2 years.
01:23 matey; you know ive never had a car
01:23 matey; so i follow this on and off
01:23 DaemonFC; I've never had one with DexCrap in it.
01:23 matey; ive also never hiked the appalachian trail, but i enjoyed "walk in the woods" by bill bryson enough
01:23 DaemonFC; I'm strongly considering having them use green if they have it in stock after this sludge mess is purged.
01:23 DaemonFC; Or at least yellow.
01:23 DaemonFC; Maybe yellow.
01:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, yellow wouldn't cause a disaster if there's a little DexCrap left in there.
01:24 matey; /me thinks of soylent
01:24 matey; whats the difference between yellow and green?
01:24 DaemonFC; I wonder if they'd let me bring a couple of jugs of Prestone yellow or maybe some Asian Car red.
01:25 DaemonFC; I think HOAT would be okay, but yellow for sure would work.
01:25 DaemonFC; Asian car red is HOAT.
01:25 matey; ok
01:25 DaemonFC; It has certain aspects of both OAT and Green.
01:26 DaemonFC; That way it better avoids the excessive coolant system wear of Green and the sludging of OAT.
01:26 DaemonFC; Those Japanese people are smart.
01:26 matey; yes they do a lot of school
01:27 DaemonFC; You really can't go too wrong with Yellow though.
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01:27 DaemonFC; DexCool is the orange stuff in GM cars.
01:28 matey; so these are coolants?
01:28 DaemonFC; "Dex-Cool sludge is caused by neglect and not following directions. If a shop or owner fails to maintain the system, adds an incompatible coolant to top it off, or runs the vehicle too long without changing the coolant or runs the cooling system when low."
01:28 matey; after the flush, you put these in?
01:28 DaemonFC; Yeah, there's a lot of types.
01:28 matey; got it
01:28 DaemonFC; Well, you CAN convert a car over to use one it wasn't meant for.
01:28 matey; but why
01:28 DaemonFC; The Impala came with DexCool, got thoroughly flushed, and now uses Green.
01:30 DaemonFC; <matey> but why
01:30 DaemonFC; Different engineers think there are different ways to solve the problem, plus patents.
01:30 DaemonFC; Lovely, glorious patents!
01:31 DaemonFC; Any coolant causes problems when you neglect it.
01:31 DaemonFC; DexCool Sludge is better than what happens years later with Green.
01:32 DaemonFC; You skip that, never do it, 10 years later all the gaskets in the engine are ruined, the heater core is ruined, the radiator is ruined and leaking, the hoses are bursting, and the water pump explodes.
01:32 DaemonFC; I had a Taurus like that. Interestingly enough.
01:32 matey; i really had no idea coolant made that much of a difference
01:32 matey; ah, the taurus <3
01:32 matey; i didnt love the car, i loved the owner
01:33 DaemonFC; About the only thing you can salvage from the system with neglected green coolant is the overflow tank which is about $20 on RockAuto.
01:33 DaemonFC; :)
01:33 DaemonFC; Which is why GM stopped using it.
01:33 DaemonFC; They wanted to advertise to the stupid baby boomers that the problem was solved and the car was hassle-free.
01:33 matey; which one fares the best if you do neglect it, dexcool?
01:34 DaemonFC; No, HOAT.
01:34 matey; okay
01:34 DaemonFC; The Asian stuff.
01:34 matey; right
01:34 DaemonFC; But HOAT is also weird, right?
01:34 matey; okay
01:34 DaemonFC; It's 5 years or 150,000 miles, but you need an additive package for it every 25,000 miles.
01:34 DaemonFC; Or it stops protecting the system.
01:34 matey; interesting
01:34 DaemonFC; So you can really do extended drain intervals, but you have to have additives or the system goes to shit like the rest.
01:35 DaemonFC; But nothing is as disastrous as old green coolant.
01:35 matey; how do you know which one the car has in it, if you dont know the car already?
01:35 matey; or is it literally green
01:35 DaemonFC; The owner's manual should say which one to use. GM manual will say "Dex-Cool(R) ONLY" and warn not to mix them.
01:36 DaemonFC; And it's orange.
01:36 DaemonFC; Yeah, the old stuff is green.
01:36 DaemonFC; You have two types of green. The standard 2 year or 36,000 mile green.
01:36 DaemonFC; Or the 5 year 60,000 mile extended green.
01:36 matey; and it doesnt matter because youll flush it anyway
01:36 DaemonFC; In my cars that used green I just filled them with 5 year green.
01:37 DaemonFC; Yeah, I will, but I'd rather do it after 5 years and not have it destroy anything.
01:37 matey; sure
01:37 DaemonFC; Because the coolant is a little more, but the shop labor for the job is the same, and 90% of the bill!
01:37 matey; sure
01:37 DaemonFC; So if you have a shop use standard green instead of extended green, you have to pay them about $250 over 5 years instead of $100.
01:38 matey; this should be useful if i ever get involved with another car owner
01:38 matey; my wife of course, had one
01:38 DaemonFC; Which adds $30 a year to your car costs.
01:38 DaemonFC; Not much, but meh.
01:38 matey; why not do it less often and save
01:38 DaemonFC; And you only run the risk of some idiot leaving air in the system once every 5 years.
01:38 matey; what happens if they leave air in
01:39 DaemonFC; Pockets of air can overheat parts of the engine.
01:39 matey; how bad?
01:39 matey; like $5000 bad or $500 bad
01:39 DaemonFC; In a cast iron engine with aluminum valve covers and intakes, the gaskets are at risk.
01:39 matey; and those run?
01:39 DaemonFC; But in a modern engine, the entire engine is at risk.
01:39 DaemonFC; Aluminum and plastic.
01:39 matey; ahh
01:39 matey; bad
01:40 DaemonFC; Very bad.
01:40 matey; howd you learn all this about cars? trial and error?
01:40 DaemonFC; Yeah, gasket jobs aren't cheap, but if you have a good engine that's worth it.
01:40 DaemonFC; Knock yourself out.
01:40 DaemonFC; The 3800 Series II and III are good engines and so is the Ford Modular V8 and the Vulcan V6.
01:41 DaemonFC; The first being GM, and it was on the top 10 engines of the 20th century (and the Series III is an improved version of the one on that list from the 2000s).
01:41 DaemonFC; They're fairly trouble-free in most cases.
01:41 DaemonFC; There's some problem spots.,
01:42 DaemonFC; <matey> howd you learn all this about cars? trial and error?
01:42 DaemonFC; Yeah, the Taurus was a shit car, but the engine was nice.
01:42 DaemonFC; It wasn't even a FFV, but I ran it with the engine light on with E85 back when it was $1.85 a gallon in Indiana and gas was over $4.
01:42 matey; so you picked it up from talking to mechanics?
01:42 DaemonFC; Back in 2007/2008.
01:42 matey; which i stopped using windows.
01:42 matey; s/which/when
01:43 DaemonFC; No, I researched the problem a bit.
01:43 matey; probably a safer bet
01:43 DaemonFC; I bought a Kia Soul + with the Theta II engine before it became known that there were metal shavings in there that could blow it up.
01:43 DaemonFC; But John has that piece of shit now.
01:43 matey; ew
01:43 DaemonFC; I hope it kills him.
01:43 DaemonFC; e
01:43 DaemonFC; I hope he's on fire burning alive.
01:43 matey; hes the pedo, yes?
01:43 DaemonFC; Yeah.
01:43 matey; lovely
01:44 DaemonFC; Worked at the TSA.
01:44 matey; yeah i know, lol
01:44 DaemonFC; Came home and bragged about feeling up 14 year olds.
01:44 matey; wtf
01:44 matey; thats a special level of fucked up
01:44 matey; i used to read the logs here a lot
01:44 matey; so i know about john
01:44 DaemonFC; He's awful. He won't live long though.
01:44 matey; cancer?
01:45 DaemonFC; He has terrible blood pressure. I told him what to do about it but he stopped taking his pills.
01:45 DaemonFC; And he's Hispanic, so 50% higher risk of kidney failure.
01:45 matey; self-solving problem i guess
01:45 DaemonFC; And high bp causes that.
01:45 matey; what did you tell him to do about it
01:45 matey; other than take his pills
01:46 DaemonFC; Take his lisinopril and see the doctor twice a year.
01:46 matey; simple enough
01:46 DaemonFC; It gave him erection issues he said.
01:46 DaemonFC; So he'd rather die in his 40s I suppose.
01:46 matey; i suppose he can be erect when he has rigor mortis
01:46 DaemonFC; If he doesn't get killed by something else first.
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01:55 DaemonFC; I got a new doctor this year.
01:55 DaemonFC; The old one was in Chicago and she was making mistakes and then I ended up getting so mad I threw her office into the bankruptcy.
01:55 DaemonFC; Because I didn't feel like paying $2,000 for incompetence leading to an unnecessary procedure.
01:56 DaemonFC; When my insurance found out it was an unnecessary procedure and a lab error, they refused to pay for it, so I had the doctor and the lab after me for the entire amount.
01:57 matey; good lord
01:58 DaemonFC; I don't pay a damned dime for incompetence, or if I do and I find out about it, it's the first and last time.
01:58 DaemonFC; That stupid fuck at the battery store found that out.
01:58 matey; indeed
01:58 DaemonFC; I'm done with chain mechanics.
01:59 DaemonFC; I'm taking this thing to the Chevy dealer from now on.
01:59 matey; theyre notorious as far as i know
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01:59 matey; the chains
01:59 matey; its like going to mcdonalds for your car
01:59 DaemonFC; Yeah, they're slammed with work, they have people in there that are on the lower end of the mechanic pay scale.
01:59 DaemonFC; Many of them are just kind of pissed to be alive and guessing with your car.
01:59 matey; im sure i could get hired by one if it was a goal
01:59 matey; and i know fuck-all about cars
02:00 DaemonFC; I know someone that worked at Jiffy Lube for one day.
02:00 matey; he was done in a jiffy
02:00 DaemonFC; He got fired for refusing to super glue a brake light assembly back together and bill the customer for a new brake light assembly.
02:00 matey; good man
02:00 DaemonFC; That's the price you pay for having a conscience.
02:00 DaemonFC; No job!
02:00 matey; of course
02:00 matey; says a lot about industry
02:01 DaemonFC; I know someone who worked at a fast food restaurant who got in trouble for questioning their boss when told to pick day old sandwich buns out of the trash can and serve them to customers.
02:02 DaemonFC; They knew the day the health inspector would come and that would be the only day there wasn't mold in the ice hopper at the soft drink machine.
02:02 matey; mmmmmmmmmmmmm
02:02 DaemonFC; He told me you can get a fountain drink but don't use the ice.
02:02 DaemonFC; I knew another person who was a waiter at Bandidos in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
02:03 matey; just the name is classic
02:03 DaemonFC; He told me when customers were done eating, the kitchen staff was to take their unfinished salsa.
02:03 matey; oh no
02:03 DaemonFC; And pour it back into the gallon jug that they filled customer salsa out of.
02:03 matey; ay de mi
02:03 DaemonFC; Their food is really shitty too.
02:04 matey; places like that get a reputation and then people avoid them like... plague
02:04 DaemonFC; The only reason I ate there was because I was having sex with the guy and he'd sneak me free food all the time.
02:04 matey; heh
02:04 matey; ole
02:04 DaemonFC; <matey> places like that get a reputation and then people avoid them like... plague
02:04 DaemonFC; I called it Blandidos.
02:06 matey; y usted eugene, whys your face turning green? dont you like pinto bean?
02:12 DaemonFC; Seems KIA dealers get bad reviews all over the place.
02:12 DaemonFC; I heard one lady complaining at Grossinger KIA, now KIA of Lincolnwood, that they told her she needed a $750 car battery.
02:12 DaemonFC; Then they put it in, and her car still wasn't working.
02:15 matey; i guess if im the market for a car
02:15 matey; i will get NOKIA
02:16 DaemonFC; When Hyundai first came to the US I was laughing.
02:17 DaemonFC; Their cars were underpowered, unreliable, and not sold at enough of a discount to a Honda to be worth considering. And 23 years later, through hard work and perseverance, all of that is still true, _and_ they explode.
02:17 matey; hopefully the explosion is also underpowered
02:18 matey; you could save and get a lada
02:18 DaemonFC; YOu done bought yourself a car from the wrong Asians!
02:18 matey; austin powers missed a marketing opportunity there
02:18 matey; they could have teamed up and offered a "lada fachina"
02:18 activelow; the lada niva is a capable off-road vehicle
02:19 DaemonFC; No, hot engine oil mixed with thermite is surprisingly explosive coming from a 1.6 or 2 liter engine, oddly enough.
02:19 matey; No, hot engine oil mixed wit <- i wont even ask
02:20 MinceR; the lada niva is very capable of breaking down
02:20 MinceR; but i'm not sure if renault will make any more ladas
02:20 MinceR; in light of russian terrorism and war crimes
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02:21 DaemonFC; 71 people have seen my negative review of Batteries Plus in the last 4 days.
02:22 DaemonFC; Yeah, this is going to cost him a lot more than giving me my $70 programming fee back.
02:22 DaemonFC; Plus, he still has to fend off my credit card dispute, or let it go through.
02:22 DaemonFC; Either way they make him pay the dispute process fee of roughly $100.
02:23 matey; "just be nice to him and dont fuck him over"
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02:23 MinceR; that's not how we generally do things on this planet
02:24 MinceR; it would be nice if it was, though
02:24 matey; its good advice to anyone doing business with dfc
02:24 DaemonFC; matey, Never underestimate a good grudge.
02:25 MinceR; of course, a car breaking down is even more of a pain in the ass if it happens off road
02:26 DaemonFC; Which is what generally happens after your Impala loses another wheel bearing at the wrong moment.
02:27 DaemonFC; matey, I figure if someone costs me money, they're going to regret it.
02:27 DaemonFC; If you cost me $70, my mission becomes costing you $7,000.
02:28 MinceR; they say if you want to go to the outback, take a Land Rover, but if you also want to get back, take a Land Cruiser
02:28 MinceR; the lada niva is more like the former
02:30 matey; the reason i ended up with debian was some power management bug that was destroying hardware
02:30 matey; this was more than 10 years ago
02:30 matey; ubuntu wouldnt fix it, though the workaround was a one line script
02:30 matey; okay, they had their reasons.
02:30 matey; trisquel wouldnt bother because ubuntu wouldnt.
02:31 matey; whatever.
02:31 matey; debian had just removed the non-free shit from their kernel-- and to top it off
02:31 matey; they fixed it, so it would save a lot of drives.
02:31 matey; i didnt use trisquel much after that
02:32 matey; i figured if they dont give a shit, i dont either.
02:32 DaemonFC; https://www.yelp.com/biz/fastlane-lube-masters-gurnee
02:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: yelp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.yelp.com/biz/fastlane-lube-masters-gurnee https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.yelp.com/biz/fastlane-lube-masters-gurnee
02:32 TR Bot; LUBE MASTERS - 14 Reviews - Auto Repair - 6280 Grand Ave, Gurnee, IL - Phone Number - Yelp
02:33 DaemonFC; "Before I went in I marked my oil filter to see if they change them because I've heard rumors that they do oil changes and don't replace the filter. Service was friendly price was steep and it was average wait time. When I got home I inspected under my car and what do you know. The SAME filter. I called in the same hour and talked to the manager and told me they always change filters and would not reimburse me. WArNING stay away."
02:33 matey; there you go
02:34 DaemonFC; "RIP OFF!!! I needed an oil change fast and Midas was already booked up for the day. I decided to bring my car to this place and was SHOCKED at the price they charged. They did the most expensive oil change on my car....I'm assuming because I'm a woman. The guy in front of was also a first time customer and his oil change was $10 cheaper. My car has 105K miles on it....do you really think I want a high end oil change? I should have just
02:34 DaemonFC; wanted and taken my car to Midas or the dealership. STAY AWAY....TOTAL RIP OFF AND SCAM."
02:34 matey; their motto could be "yes, we fuck our customers over. but at least we use lube."
02:35 DaemonFC; I'm a woman and do you really think I want my 105,000 mile car to last another 105,000 miles because they put HIGH MILEAGE oil in it? The nerve of some people! They charged that other guy ten dollars less! That's almost enough to go to Wendys!"
02:36 matey; when i go to wendys i just ask for a wrapper
02:36 matey; it costs a lot less and tastes almost as good as the food
02:37 DaemonFC; https://www.yelp.com/biz/super-lube-grayslake?page_src=related_bizes
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02:37 TR Bot; LUBE - 25 Reviews - Auto Repair - 2010 E Belvidere Rd, Grayslake, IL - Phone Number - Yelp
02:37 matey; if you want to know what a potato would taste like after 500 years in a stasis field, go to wendys
02:37 DaemonFC; "Mark then informed me for the first time in 7 yrs. of ownership of this vehicle that I needed synthetic oil. Hmmm I said " Mark this is a Chevy Sonic not a corvette!"
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02:37 DaemonFC; Yes, GM requires full synthetic meeting their dexos standard in a 2012 Chevy Sonic.
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02:37 DaemonFC; If you don't use it, you will have engine sludge.
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02:38 DaemonFC; Engine sludge was within the tolerances of some of the older engines, which is why they could run on conventional oil, but the newer ones with tighter tolerances can't handle any sludge or else an oil passage can become clogged up, and the engine will start running dry and you'll get about another mile and no more engine.
02:39 DaemonFC; Enjoy your $10 less oil change.
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02:40 DaemonFC; Those modern engines are built to such tight tolerances that even the oil viscosity now is ridiculous.
02:40 DaemonFC; Many of them absolutely require 0w16 even.
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02:40 DaemonFC; And that only comes in full synthetic.
02:40 matey; and the buick?
02:41 DaemonFC; The Buick has the 3800 Buick V6.
02:41 DaemonFC; It will run on 0w30 full synthetic, or 5w30 or 10w30 even, in conventional, semi-synthetic, or full synthetic.
02:41 DaemonFC; But I use 0w30.
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02:43 DaemonFC; Due to the overhead valve and timing chain design that GM uses, you should not attempt to use 0w20, 5w20, or 0w16 oils.
02:43 DaemonFC; You'll do serious damage.
02:43 DaemonFC; If you try to use 0w40, 5w40, or 10w40 you'll eventually blow out the oil pump.
02:44 DaemonFC; 10w30 should only be used in cases where you live in a very warm climate.
02:44 DaemonFC; Such as the summer months in the midwest or like, eh, Florida.
02:44 DaemonFC; But I wouldn't even use it there.
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02:45 DaemonFC; I'd probably use 5w30 full synthetic if I lived in a state with nice weather all year.
02:45 DaemonFC; 0w30 is to get the oil flowing to the top of the engine faster on a cold day.
02:45 matey; cool
02:45 DaemonFC; And we get many of those here, and while we have a few really hot months, it's not worth changing the oil viscosity over those months because it'll just be cold again before I need another oil change.
02:46 DaemonFC; And this way I only have to remember to change the oil once a year.
02:46 DaemonFC; We're still getting snow this week.
02:46 DaemonFC; But it'll be 80 F on Saturday.
02:46 matey; crazy
02:47 DaemonFC; The weather here is too crazy to try to plan your oil viscosity around it, especially now with full synthetic oils and extended drain intervals.
02:47 DaemonFC; Back when I used conventional oil in an engine, I would switch between 10w30 for the summer months and 5w30 for the winter months.
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02:48 DaemonFC; But you have to change that out at least every 6 months anyway.
02:48 DaemonFC; At least that's what the oil companies say on the bottle.
02:48 DaemonFC; Amsoil's advice will void out your warranty if you have one.
02:49 DaemonFC; They say they'll pay to fix your engine if you use their oil and there's a breakdown caused by extended drain interval that goes well beyond what any manufacturer says to do.
02:49 DaemonFC; Amsoil claims that you can do 25,000 mile oil changes.
02:49 DaemonFC; You can, but it's a really bad idea, with any oil or filter.
02:50 DaemonFC; If you're going to go that route and buy into the 25,000 mile or one year crap, then you should get yourself an extended drain filter.
02:50 DaemonFC; Basically they just have more filtration media. Usually about 50% more.
02:50 DaemonFC; That way it won't be likely to plug up the filter with sludge and then use the bypass valve and start circulating unfiltered oil about 10,000-12,000 miles in.
02:52 DaemonFC; https://www.royalpurple.com/consumer/extended-life-oil-filters/
02:52 TR Bot; Extended Life Oil Filters | Royal Purple
02:53 DaemonFC; Royal Purple makes some that have twice as much filtration media in them.
02:53 DaemonFC; But in some cases you won't be able to get one to fit in a modern engine bay.
02:53 DaemonFC; Because everything is cramped and they only specced it to have enough room for an OE-size filter.
02:54 DaemonFC; But if you don't want to think about oil drain intervals so much, you can use something like Pennzoil Platinum for Euro cars and an extended drain filter.
02:54 DaemonFC; You theoretically could go 15,000 miles between oil changes in the Buick.
02:55 DaemonFC; Though, why would you? The engine will consume _some_ oil so you'll not just be paying for Euro oil and a $50 oil filter.
02:55 DaemonFC; But you have to plan on top ups.
02:55 DaemonFC; Extended drain intervals of that type create other problems too.
02:55 DaemonFC; It's good to get a set of eyes on your car every now and then at the mechanic's shop.
02:56 DaemonFC; Remembering "I need an oil change" every so often means you'll be in there more and they have more chances to notice anything going wrong with your car.
02:56 matey; yeah
02:56 DaemonFC; If you go to a quick lube place, not only do they screw you on the oil change price and maybe not even do the job, but they are not mechanics.
02:57 DaemonFC; So you have no early warning of things like brakes that are starting to deteriorate.
02:58 DaemonFC; People are slobs.
02:58 DaemonFC; If I'm going to pay $60 for a synthetic oil change anywhere I go, it's going to be at the dealer.
02:58 DaemonFC; They do a standard inspection on your car whenever you're there and give you a status report.
02:58 DaemonFC; You can go fix it anywhere you want at that point.
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 42.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 388.63
02:59 DaemonFC; Usually those chain shops don't screw up as much if you can bring in a report from the dealer and say "I need a new ball joint on the front passenger side.".
03:00 DaemonFC; It first occurred to me that Car-X might be slipping when they missed the clunking noises I was bringing it in for until I had to come back and say "These ball joints are bond dry. Listen to this shit!".
03:00 matey; if they dont have mechanics, who do they put on such a task?
03:00 DaemonFC; And I bounced the car up and down and it squeaked.
03:01 DaemonFC; <matey> if they dont have mechanics, who do they put on such a task?
03:01 DaemonFC; So glad you asked.
03:01 DaemonFC; A guy they hired off the street and trained to do oil, tires, and air filters very quickly, making minimum wage.
03:02 DaemonFC; Jiffy Lube only starts out at $15 an hour here in Illinois.
03:02 DaemonFC; Minimum wage is $15 an hour.
03:03 DaemonFC; I managed to cut our internet bill completely out.
03:03 DaemonFC; We met the income requirements for the free high speed internet thing from the FCC by like, a few bucks.
03:04 DaemonFC; So we have free internet access for at least the next year.
03:04 DaemonFC; So that's $600 back in my pocket.
03:04 matey; nice
03:04 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 224317 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40235 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 months 10 days ago
03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 6.9 GB TotalOut: 1.5 GB
03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:07 DaemonFC; I have driven a Prius through Chicago. I didn't care much for it.
03:07 IPFS; QmNYJoJ9Ugk6bzW4kiqNd1XX3pDsY94QQQpPX6zvttdDqD
03:07 DaemonFC; I found the cluster to be a big distraction honestly.
03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:08 DaemonFC; It has light flashing when you brake that show an icon of electricity moving back into an icon of a battery.
03:08 DaemonFC; It's so ridiculous.
03:08 DaemonFC; It's like your car that runs on power is wasting power to show you an icon about what it's doing at the moment with the power.
03:11 DaemonFC; https://www.vehiclescene.com/bird-poop-on-cars/
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03:11 TR Bot; Bird Poop On Cars: Why It Happens & How To Get It Off (6 Methods)
03:11 DaemonFC; Bird poop is no joke.
03:11 DaemonFC; I left some on the Taurus because it was such an awful car I didn't even care.
03:11 DaemonFC; But when I finally did clean it like 8 months later, the car had rusted through underneath it.
03:13 DaemonFC; Scotty Kilmer said he has some waterless car wash spray to deal with bird shit as soon as he sees it.
03:14 matey; i just piped 0.25 gb of text into my text editor, no problem
03:14 matey; it wouldnt save it to a file for some reason...
03:15 DaemonFC; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F9269Y3/
03:15 TR Bot; Rain-X 620100-3PK Waterless Car Wash & Rain Repellent, 23 oz. (Pack of 3) : Automotive
03:15 DaemonFC; Hmm, a pack of 3 at Amazon works out to the same price as Walmart with the employee discount.
03:15 DaemonFC; Per bottle, that is.
03:17 matey; im guessing sams club either isnt worth the free or isnt available in your area
03:17 matey; ditto costco, bjs (i didnt name them)
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03:20 DaemonFC; Sam's Club isn't worth any amount of money.
03:20 DaemonFC; I don't even know who shops there. I think MARISOL grabs carts full of water and gargantuan packs of toilet paper there.
03:21 matey; im not sure ive been there this century
03:21 DaemonFC; Saving a nickel a roll really makes up for the $1,200 wheel hub bearings at BMW.
03:21 DaemonFC; Wit hteh gourmet coffee in the waiting room.
03:26 matey; so it wont save a 250mb file for whatever reason-- when i wrote (if i wrote) the save routine, i didnt intend that sort of load on it in the first place
03:27 matey; but if you remove half of it, it saves 124 mb.
03:27 matey; its still 1.8 million lines of text, which i think is pretty good
03:27 matey; but right now i would be happier if it did more
03:28 matey; since that would make my life easier
03:28 matey; granted im still trying to do something fairly silly
03:36 DaemonFC; GNOME 42 looks a lot more like Android than it did before.
03:36 DaemonFC; They're copying Material Design now.
03:37 matey; they really are a fucking mystery
03:38 matey; thats one goofy culture
03:38 matey; first of all, what the fuck do gnome developers develop on? it cant be anything old, for sure
03:39 matey; i dont understand the motivation to go to all that trouble over something THAT ridiculous
03:39 matey; and then of course when theyre done
03:39 matey; theyll do it again in a few years
03:39 matey; its really bizarre
03:40 matey; free software: "mozilla is the biggest application we need, ten times over-- its bigger than the rest of everything else put together"
03:40 matey; gnome: "hold my beer"
03:41 DaemonFC; GNOME actually incorporates all of Mozilla's SpiderMonkey JavaScript engine.
03:41 DaemonFC; A lot of the Shell is JavaScript and runs in that.
03:41 matey; /me buys a cross and glues it to the monitor
03:42 DaemonFC; The logical thing to do if you're going to have WebKitGTK around anyway is move the JavaScript in the Shell over and run it on FTL.
03:42 DaemonFC; That gets your attack surface and resource footprint down.
03:42 DaemonFC; Because WebKitGTK is there anyway.
03:43 matey; Because WebKitGTK <- theyre moving to github
03:48 matey; not from, of course
03:48 matey; thats rare
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03:59 *activelow won't miss WebKitGTK
04:00 activelow; fiddled with an older version of it, the latest from 1 year ago or so, had some issues, not sure what it was
04:00 activelow; didn't want WASM, remove opengl and some things, which wasn possible with an even older version only
04:01 activelow; gnome chose epiphany with webkit
04:02 activelow; as far as i was concerned, that's not much better than an iexplorer.bin
04:02 activelow; yet, i can afford the luxury, to remove it; gnome/gnu/fsf can't without loosing almost their entire user base
04:03 activelow; wouldn't want to take seat in the fsf, and being forced to endorse such software, webkit, gnome, etc.
04:06 activelow; webkit-gtk-2.24.4 was the last one, i compiled, three of four years old
04:07 activelow; the epiphany frontend was poisoned, with dbus, and not easily removed, so i ended up with badwolf/webkit, which had no benefit over netsurf anymore
04:07 activelow; and today, i decided to kick out GTK2/3... with it netsurf being gone, if i cannot repair the fbcon or motif widgets for linux
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04:25 matey; <activelow> wouldn't want to take seat in the fsf, and being forced to endorse such software, webkit, gnome, etc. <- indeed
04:25 matey; whats wrong with the motif widgets? c++?
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04:50 activelow; matey: so far there isn't a problem with motif widgets, except i couldn't verify yet if netsurf can swap gtk with motif
04:51 activelow; should be possible, netsurf is modular, ... takes time
04:51 activelow; currently, i'm trying to bring back mupdf, so i can view PDF files... had to patch some stuff, again, related to harfbuzz (c++), and some issue with openjpeg
04:53 activelow; anyway, problem is GTK, harfbuzz and their poison creeping into almost everything
04:55 activelow; mupdf is a good example for this again, an older version, didn't require harfbuzz, and openjpeg requires cmake
04:55 activelow; at least, mupdf compiled... ready for testing
04:55 activelow; next one, netsurf and replacing gtk with fbcon or motif
04:57 activelow; what i can't comprehend, is, the quality minimum acceptance testing at facebook/google/red-hat/ibm; if there had been any harfbuzz implemented in c++ couldn't have passed
04:57 activelow; i mean, harfbuzz broke the entire design rationale of GTK, which the developers invested considerable effort into, to implement GLib/GObject, to prevent exaclty this one problem: c++
04:58 activelow; they even pushed Vala... and then, some idiot crushed decades of man power invested into it, GTK
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05:43 matey; an older version, didn't require harfbuzz, and openjpeg requires cmake <- this is the thing i try to get roy to understand
05:43 matey; proximity to github leads to mor proximity to github
05:44 matey; both harfbuzz and openjpeg are github, cmake is microsoft too
05:44 matey; theyre moving free software away from freedom, towards control
05:44 activelow; i don't know who funds cmake and whose interests are served; cmake conflicts with acceptance criteria here
05:44 matey; just saying theres a pattern
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05:47 activelow; repaired the ebuild of fluidsynth a moment ago, occasionally some configure.ac is shipped with older packages
05:47 activelow; otherwise migrating cmake->autotools isn't easily possible with some scripts (autotools->cmake got some support)
05:48 activelow; mupdf is back (hacked openjpeg calls, replaced with some dummy for now until openjpeg can be replaced)
05:48 activelow; next one is ghostscript-gpl...
05:51 activelow; attacks against build systems isn't new, reminds my of python waf, which is difficult to track, even with gentoo portage
05:56 *activelow sighs
05:56 activelow; ghostscript is back too
05:56 activelow; it was some fonts package only which build a dependency against cmake, totally weird
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06:34 TR News; "You can follow this tutorial with just a breadboard, a TMS9918 VDP (video display processor)" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/19/experiment-with-80s-graphics-using-this-breadboard-setup/ | Source: Arduino
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06:35 TR News; "Im always looking for ways to make my work more efficient" https://www.techrepublic.com/article/run-a-single-command-on-multiple-linux-machines/ | Source: TechRepublic
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06:35 TR News; "While I was enjoying the last sip of my tea, I thought about ways to take advantage of the arbitrary file upload vulnerability" https://fh4ntke.medium.com/hacking-the-university-in-a-few-steps-84e43e3c01a8 |
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06:35 TR Bot; Hacking the University in a Few Steps | by FHantke | Apr, 2022 | Medium
06:37 TR News; "While I'm an OpenBSD contributor, I also enjoy using Linux especially the NixOS distribution" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-04-18-openbsd-vs-nixos.html | Source: Data Swamp
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06:38 TR News; "Much like Linux, modern versions of OpenBSD are theoretically able to talk to a suitable local IPMI" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI | Source: uni Toronto
06:38 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI
06:38 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/OpenBSDLocalIPMI
06:38 TR News; "I wanted to get in on the OpenBSD/riscv64 bandwagon, but I don't have the money to spend on fancy new hardware." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220418.html | Source: Brian Callahan
06:38 TR Bot; Brian Robert Callahan
06:39 TR News; Better for the planet https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/global-smartphone-shipments-fell-by-11-in-1q2022-claim.html | Source: IT Wire
06:39 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/global-smartphone-shipments-fell-by-11-in-1q2022-claim.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/global-smartphone-shipments-fell-by-11-in-1q2022-claim.html
06:39 TR Bot; - Global smartphone shipments fell by 11% in 1Q2022: claim
06:41 TR News; "Due to its open-source nature, this isn't the first app that lets you tap into its network" https://www.androidpolice.com/mastodon-officially-comes-to-the-play-store/ | Source: Android Police
06:41 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: androidpolice.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidpolice.com/mastodon-officially-comes-to-the-play-store/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.androidpolice.com/mastodon-officially-comes-to-the-play-store/
06:41 TR Bot; Mastodon officially comes to the Play Store
06:41 TR News; "Did you know its actually possible to build a rich UI that runs completely in the terminal?" https://earthly.dev/blog/tui-app-with-go/ | Source: Earthly
06:41 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: earthly.dev | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://earthly.dev/blog/tui-app-with-go/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://earthly.dev/blog/tui-app-with-go/
06:41 TR Bot; Building A Terminal User Interface With Golang - Earthly Blog
06:42 TR News; "Im using Inbox When Ready to protect my focus" https://www.economist.com/business/2022/04/16/how-to-sign-off-an-email | Source: The Economist
06:42 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/2022/04/16/how-to-sign-off-an-email https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.economist.com/business/2022/04/16/how-to-sign-off-an-email
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06:42 TR Bot; to sign off an email | The Economist
06:43 TR News; "intrepid Jesse Blum and I analyzed metadata from over 6,500 job descriptions for data roles" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/text-analysis-of-job-descriptions-for-data-scientists-data-engineers-machine-learning-engineers-and-data-analysts/ | Source: Rlang
06:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r-bloggers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/text-analysis-of-job-descriptions-for-data-scientists-data-engineers-machine-learning-engineers-and-data-analysts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/text-analysis-of-job-descriptions-for-data-scientists-data-engineers-machine-learning-engineers-and-data-analysts/
06:43 TR Bot; Analysis of Job Descriptions for Data Scientists, Data Engineers, Machine Learning Engineers and Data Analysts | R-bloggers
06:45 TR News; "Intel initially manufactured dynamic random-access memory (DRAM). It was an inflection point in computing" https://matt-rickard.com/only-the-paranoid-survive/ | Source: Matt Rickard
06:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/only-the-paranoid-survive/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/only-the-paranoid-survive/
06:45 TR Bot; Only the Paranoid Survive
06:47 TR News; "The company said it had issued updates for the stable branch of Chrome for the Windows, Mac and Linux ports." https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/google-exposed-as-it-bids-to-show-up-microsoft-over-security.html | Source: IT Wire
06:47 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/google-exposed-as-it-bids-to-show-up-microsoft-over-security.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/google-exposed-as-it-bids-to-show-up-microsoft-over-security.html
06:47 TR Bot; - Google exposed as it bids to show up Microsoft over security
06:47 TR News; "Windows is an entirely different beast" https://www.androidpolice.com/windows-11-android-apps-review/ | Source: Android Police
06:47 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: androidpolice.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidpolice.com/windows-11-android-apps-review/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.androidpolice.com/windows-11-android-apps-review/
06:47 TR Bot; Android apps on Windows 11 review
06:48 TR News; "two running Windows 10 and two running Windows Server 2019" https://www.securityweek.com/analysis-shows-how-fast-various-ransomware-strains-encrypt-100000-files | Source: Security Week
06:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: securityweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/analysis-shows-how-fast-various-ransomware-strains-encrypt-100000-files https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.securityweek.com/analysis-shows-how-fast-various-ransomware-strains-encrypt-100000-files
06:48 TR Bot; Shows How Fast Various Ransomware Strains Encrypt 100,000 Files | SecurityWeek.Com
06:49 TR News; "Out of six issues reported, only one is resolved. The main issue received a partial fix, two more got fixes that didnt quite address the issue. Two (admittedly minor) issues havent been addressed at all within 90 days from what I can tell." https://palant.info/2022/04/19/adobe-acrobat-hollowing-out-same-origin-policy/ | Source: Wladimir Palant
06:49 TR Bot; Adobe Acrobat hollowing out same-origin policy | Almost Secure
06:49 TR News; "But Metas plan immediately drew blowback from developers" https://www.marketwatch.com/story/facebook-parent-meta-set-to-take-nearly-50-cut-from-virtual-sales-within-its-metaverse-11649885375 | Source: Market Watch
06:49 TR Bot; parent Meta set to take nearly 50% cut from virtual sales -- and Apple is calling it out - MarketWatch
06:50 TR News; "DataSkop is a collaborative project involving AlgorithmWatch" https://algorithmwatch.org/en/dataskop-simulator-plattformdynamiken/ |
06:50 TR Bot; DataSkop: simulating the dynamics of recommender systems - AlgorithmWatch
06:50 TR News; "Semenets has posted updates of the AirPods journey on his Instagram page, even if he is unlikely to retrieve them." https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8b2b7a28-bf0d-11ec-8413-422ef6319ad0 | Source: The Sunday Times UK
06:50 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thetimes.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8b2b7a28-bf0d-11ec-8413-422ef6319ad0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8b2b7a28-bf0d-11ec-8413-422ef6319ad0
06:50 TR Bot; Stolen AirPods give away Russian retreat positions | News | The Times
06:50 TR News; "Clearview AI describes itself as The world's largest facial network." https://edri.org/our-work/we-need-to-talk-about-clearview-ai/ | Source: EDRI
06:50 TR Bot; About ClearviewAI's mockery of human rights, those fighting it, and the need for EU to intervene - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
06:51 TR News; "In the midst of the atrocious war currently being waged by Russia on Ukraine" https://edri.org/our-work/the-clearview-ukraine-partnership-how-surveillance-companies-exploit-war/ | Source: EDRI
06:51 TR Bot; The Clearview/Ukraine partnership - How surveillance companies exploit war - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
06:51 TR News; "in 2020 and 2021 we observed and notified the government of the United Kingdom" https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/uk-government-officials-targeted-pegasus/ | Source: Citizen Lab
06:51 TR Bot; UK Government Officials Infected with Pegasus - The Citizen Lab
06:53 TR News; "David Smith of the Secret Service told CNBC that his office has been tracking the flow of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3273240-secret-service-has-seized-more-than-100-million-in-crypto-report/ | Source: The Hill
06:53 TR Bot; Secret Service has seized more than $100 million in crypto: report | The Hill
06:53 TR News; "The U.S. Secret Service is cracking down on illicit digital currency transactions" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/19/secret-service-seizes-more-than-102-million-in-crypto-assets.html | Source: CNBC
06:53 TR Bot; Secret Service seizes more than $102 million in crypto assets
06:53 TR News; "paying households" https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/19/23032643/netflix-password-sharing-subscribers-100-million | Source: The Verge
06:53 TR Bot; Netflix blames 100 million password sharers for stalled subscriber growth - The Verge
06:54 TR News; Swinging back to losses soon? https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/19/23032399/netflix-lost-subscribers-q1-2022-earnings | Source: The Verge
06:54 TR Bot; Netflix just lost subscribers for the first time in over a decade - The Verge
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 298.18
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07:52 TR News; "Netflix lost 200,000 subscribers in Q1 and expects to lose another 2 million in the current second quarter" https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/netflix-loses-subscribers-q1-earnings-1235234858/ | Source: Variety
07:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/netflix-loses-subscribers-q1-earnings-1235234858/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/netflix-loses-subscribers-q1-earnings-1235234858/
07:52 TR Bot; Loses 200,000 Subscribers in Q1 - Variety
07:52 TR News; "The company reported a quarterly subscriber loss Tuesday, ending Q1 of 2022 with 221.64 million subscribers, down from 221.84" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-coming-1235132170/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
07:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-coming-1235132170/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-coming-1235132170/
07:52 TR Bot; Netflix Preps Bigger Password-Sharing Crackdown The Hollywood Reporter
07:53 TR News; "The streaming giant reported a drop of 200,000 subscribers during the first quarter of 2022." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3273435-netflix-reports-first-subscriber-loss-in-10-years/ | Source: The Hill
07:53 TR Bot; Netflix reports first subscriber loss in 10 years | The Hill
07:56 TR News; Ubuntu Studio 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163923
07:56 TR Bot; Ubuntu Studio 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 413.35
08:00 TR News; "ISPs, looking to undermine, FCC authority managed to frame the whole net neutrality debate as partisan as to sow dissent, prevent consensus" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/gab-ceo-ironically-pines-for-net-neutrality/ | Source: Techdirt
08:00 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/gab-ceo-ironically-pines-for-net-neutrality/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/gab-ceo-ironically-pines-for-net-neutrality/
08:00 TR Bot; CEO Ironically Pines For Net Neutrality | Techdirt
08:00 TR News; Improving Smartphone Privacy https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/improving-smartphone-privacy:5 Source: AlphaNerd
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08:00 TR Bot; Improving Smartphone Privacy
08:01 TR News; On trademarks: PROPERLY engage with the 3D printing community! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/here's-how-to-properly-engage-with-the:2 Source: rossmanngroup
08:01 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/here's-how-to-properly-engage-with-the:2 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/here's-how-to-properly-engage-with-the:2
08:01 TR Bot; Here's how to PROPERLY engage with the 3D printing community!
08:06 activelow; to summarize, "GNOME foundation", a "non-profit", located in California, close nearby RAND corp., president being an Iranian spy, then GNOME/GTK pushing for dbus/systemd, since the president president promised to spy to iranian intelligence
08:07 matey; close nearby RAND corp. <- i mean...
08:07 matey; silicon valley is going to be close to silicon valley
08:08 matey; president being an Iranian spy <- according to whom?
08:08 activelow; according to wikipedia
08:08 matey; ok
08:08 matey; then GNOME/GTK pushing for dbus/systemd <- this is true enough
08:08 matey; at wonder how dbus became "necessary" for gnome (or gtk)
08:08 matey; i wonder ^
08:08 activelow; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behdad_Esfahbod
08:08 TR Bot; Behdad Esfahbod - Wikipedia
08:09 matey; HES THE PRESIDENT NOW?
08:09 activelow; was, at gnome foundation, then some type of senior lead developer at facebook, then google, redhat
08:10 matey; fuck
08:10 matey; and you realise hes also the harfbuzz author, yes?
08:10 schestowitz-TR; Iranian spy << citation needed
08:10 activelow; ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behdad_Esfahbod
08:12 schestowitz-TR; it's the opposite of what you claimed
08:12 schestowitz-TR; he was DETAINED in Iran
08:12 schestowitz-TR; he seems like the victim of them
08:12 schestowitz-TR; not a courier of them
08:12 activelow; permitted to travel freely, back to USA
08:13 matey; lol@everyone who gets detained and freed is a spy
08:13 activelow; and whoever implemented it, harfbuzz (necessary to process farsi/arab/hindi/hebrew etc), dbus, systemd
08:13 matey; and whoever implemented it <- why dont you look at the article to see who implemented it
08:14 matey; the one you just linked to
08:14 activelow; i wouldn't say GNOME is spyware
08:15 matey; i would
08:15 matey; geoclue is shit
08:15 activelow; of cause not, it is
08:15 activelow; of cause not, it is "free software", says RMS
08:15 activelow; or, what's the position of RMS towards GNOME?
08:15 matey; he also thinks systemd is free software
08:15 TR News; "Within 48 hours we had 70% of the store signed up for union cards." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/stunning-clean-sweep-starbucks-workers-win-5-straight-union-votes-virginia | Source: Common Dreams
08:15 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/stunning-clean-sweep-starbucks-workers-win-5-straight-union-votes-virginia https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/stunning-clean-sweep-starbucks-workers-win-5-straight-union-votes-virginia
08:15 TR Bot; 'Stunning Clean Sweep' as Starbucks Workers Win 5 Straight Union Votes in Virginia
08:16 activelow; last known good GTK is version 1.x; just saying
08:16 matey; github toolkit
08:16 activelow; maybe there is some GTK 2.x somewhere hiding in the archives, i back-tracked until 2013 and then stopped
08:17 activelow; GTK 2.x isn't affected by dbus/systemd as GTK 3.x is, yet harfbuzz poison already attached to it, GTK 1.x seems clean
08:18 activelow; however, neither motif nor gtk-1.x are used, it's almost gtk-2.x at least, i'll backtrack further to see if there is any clean version hiding somewhere
08:18 TR News; "A few weeks ago, Rene Ebersole drew the curtain back on law enforcement forensic training" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/instructor-who-teaches-cops-to-dowse-for-dead-bodies-issues-hearty-defense-of-corpse-witching/ | Source: Techdirt
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08:18 TR Bot; Who Teaches Cops To Dowse For Dead Bodies Issues Hearty Defense Of Corpse Witching | Techdirt
08:20 matey; last known good GTK is version 1.x; just saying <- i dont know when gnome took over gtk
08:20 matey; what i do know is that it wasnt gnome originally
08:20 matey; gtk3 is gnome, i dont know about the status of gtk2
08:20 schestowitz-TR; icbm emploloyes key gtk devs
08:20 schestowitz-TR; they are affiliated with gnome
08:20 matey; icbm emploloyes key gtk dev <- at any rate there are only 3 things ill use gtk4 for
08:21 matey; preferably less
08:21 matey; i wont use gtk4 apps
08:21 matey; 3 exceptions
08:21 matey; browser, image editor
08:21 matey; and ?
08:22 matey; gtk4 just means "fuck you, fuck users"
08:22 matey; so does gtk3, but ive worked pretty hard to get away from that
08:22 matey; if you use gtk4 to make an app, i guess you dont want me to use it
08:23 activelow; maybe there is a chance with gtk2, certainly not gtk3 anymore
08:23 matey; id be content with mate if it moved off github
08:24 activelow; well, even with gtk2 versions in 2013 already weren't ok anymore
08:24 matey; i mean i wouldnt use it, but id probably recommend it (not if its on github)
08:25 matey; even with gtk2 versions in 2013 already weren't ok anymore <- your definition of "not ok" includes "written in c++"
08:25 matey; which is alright for your profile, but in general
08:25 matey; then again id like to know how intrinsic the boost libraries are to c++ applications
08:26 matey; in general
08:26 matey; because at that point your anti-c++ crusade dovetails with my own
08:26 TR News; "So much of the debate about Section 230 is based on an incorrect understanding of its procedural benefits" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-318-the-real-beneficiaries-of-section-230/ | Source: Techdirt
08:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-318-the-real-beneficiaries-of-section-230/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/techdirt-podcast-episode-318-the-real-beneficiaries-of-section-230/
08:26 TR Bot; Podcast Episode 318: The Real Beneficiaries Of Section 230 | Techdirt
08:26 matey; but only if the boost libraries are in most (common) c++ applications
08:27 matey; and you dont keep track of that sort of thing (or perhaps you noticed anyway)
08:27 activelow; and the problem is related to pango, seems gtk2 from the beginning used it, pango, and i am not aware of a pango version yet without harfbuzz
08:28 activelow; apropos boost, noticed a moment ago, mpd music server requires this monstrosity; removed
08:28 TR News; DuckDuckGo is a Microsoft SCAM. Stop using that SCAM. https://torrentfreak.com/duckduckgo-restores-pirate-sites-and-points-to-bing-220419/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
08:28 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/duckduckgo-restores-pirate-sites-and-points-to-bing-220419/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/duckduckgo-restores-pirate-sites-and-points-to-bing-220419/
08:28 TR Bot; 'Restores' Pirate Sites and Points to Bing as Culprit * TorrentFreak
08:28 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
08:29 TR News; "VLC, for example, is a content-agnostic tool that can play most media, regardless of the source" https://torrentfreak.com/85-pirate-iptv-apps-reported-as-illegal-but-most-if-any-carry-no-content-220419/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:29 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/85-pirate-iptv-apps-reported-as-illegal-but-most-if-any-carry-no-content-220419/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/85-pirate-iptv-apps-reported-as-illegal-but-most-if-any-carry-no-content-220419/
08:29 TR Bot; 'Pirate' IPTV Apps Reported as Illegal But Most (If Any) Carry No Content * TorrentFreak
08:30 TR News; "Creative Commons Open Culture Remix Art Contest #CCSharesCulture is open until 30 April 2022" https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/19/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-tyler-green/ | Source: Creative Commons
08:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/19/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-tyler-green/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/19/meet-the-judges-ccsharesculture-tyler-green/
08:30 TR Bot; Meet the Judges #CCSharesCulture: Tyler Green - Creative Commons
08:33 TR News; Microsoft criminals are fighting against the Internet, EFF won't even name Microsoft! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/scraping-public-websites-still-isnt-crime-court-appeals-declares | Source: EFF
08:33 TR Bot; Scraping Public Websites (Still) Isnt a Crime, Court of Appeals Declares | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:34 TR News; "There is a growing recognition that forced arbitration agreements impede the defense of fundamental rights." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/stop-forced-arbitration-data-privacy-legislation | Source: EFF
08:34 TR Bot; Stop Forced Arbitration in Data Privacy Legislation | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:35 Techrights-sec; I would hope that the EFF can somehow be slavaged
08:35 Techrights-sec; ^salvaged
08:36 TR News; "As far as input devices go, the potentiometer is pretty straightforward" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/oled-display-kicks-knob-up-several-accurate-notches/ | Source: Hackaday
08:36 TR Bot; Display Kicks Knob Up Several Accurate Notches | Hackaday
08:36 TR News; <li>
08:36 TR News; "When it comes to sci-fi, its hard to go pastStar Wars, and many submissions to our contest land in that exact universe." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/2022-sci-fi-contest-the-animatronic-baby-yoda-youve-always-wanted/ | Source: Hackaday
↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/2022-sci-fi-contest-the-animatronic-baby-yoda-youve-always-wanted/
08:36 TR Bot; Sci-Fi Contest: The Animatronic Baby Yoda Youve Always Wanted | Hackaday
08:38 TR News; "We just got done noting how the telecom industry has been pushing misleading editorials in Arizona to derail the nomination" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/telecom-lobby-targets-senators-manchin-kelly-and-cortez-masto-in-bid-to-scuttle-sohn-fcc-nomination/ | Source: Techdirt
08:38 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/telecom-lobby-targets-senators-manchin-kelly-and-cortez-masto-in-bid-to-scuttle-sohn-fcc-nomination/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/19/telecom-lobby-targets-senators-manchin-kelly-and-cortez-masto-in-bid-to-scuttle-sohn-fcc-nomination/
08:38 TR Bot; Lobby Targets Senators Manchin, Kelly, And Cortez Masto In Bid To Scuttle Sohn FCC Nomination | Techdirt
08:42 Techrights-sec; However they have become part of the problem for a while
08:43 TR News; "In reviewing the arguments for Section 230 repeal, Coy left out what I considered the most important, the downsizing of Facebook and Twitter" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/19/repealing-section-230-to-downsize-facebook-and-twitter/ | Source: Counter Punch
08:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/19/repealing-section-230-to-downsize-facebook-and-twitter/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/19/repealing-section-230-to-downsize-facebook-and-twitter/
08:43 TR Bot; Section 230 to Downsize Facebook and Twitter - CounterPunch.org
08:45 TR News; "That conclusion emerges from the recent World Happiness Report-2022, published by the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/19/military-and-economic-power-once-again-fail-to-produce-happiness/ | Source: Counter Punch
08:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/19/military-and-economic-power-once-again-fail-to-produce-happiness/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/19/military-and-economic-power-once-again-fail-to-produce-happiness/
08:45 TR Bot; and Economic Power Once Again Fail to Produce Happiness - CounterPunch.org
08:47 TR News; SweatshopZone https://truthout.org/articles/poll-finds-75-percent-of-americans-support-amazon-workers-union-efforts/ | Source: TruthOut
08:47 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/poll-finds-75-percent-of-americans-support-amazon-workers-union-efforts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/poll-finds-75-percent-of-americans-support-amazon-workers-union-efforts/
08:47 TR Bot; Poll Finds 75 Percent of Americans Support Amazon Workers Union Efforts
08:50 TR News; "Yet another Day of the Chocolate Bunnies" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/edible-electronics-let-us-hear-the-lamentations-of-the-chocolate-bunnies/ | Source: Hackaday
08:50 TR Bot; Electronics Let Us Hear The Lamentations Of The Chocolate Bunnies | Hackaday
08:50 TR News; "Last time, I told you how to get started with the Black Pill STM32F411 board using the Mbed OS." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/arm-pumps-up-the-volume-with-mbed-and-a-potentiometer/ | Source: Hackaday
08:50 TR Bot; Pumps Up The Volume With Mbed And A Potentiometer | Hackaday
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08:52 TR News; "President Joe Biden nominated media activist Gigi Sohn to the Federal Communications Commission in October" https://fair.org/home/action-alert-big-media-want-gigi-sohn-kept-off-fcc-board/ | Source: FAIR
08:52 TR Bot; ACTION ALERT: Big Media Want Gigi Sohn Kept Off FCC Board - FAIR
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08:57 TR News; "A line follower is a common project for anyone wishing to make a start in robotics" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/a-line-follower-with-no-brains/ | Source: Hackaday
08:57 TR Bot; Line Follower With No Brains | Hackaday
08:57 TR News; Windows has become a laughing stock https://hackaday.com/2022/04/19/mobile-focused-windows-11-leaves-taskbar-stuck-along-the-bottom/ | Source: Hackaday
08:57 TR Bot; Windows 11 Leaves Taskbar Stuck Along The Bottom | Hackaday
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 47.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 293.15
09:00 TR News; Broken system https://truthout.org/articles/top-us-ceos-made-254-times-more-than-median-workers-in-2021-study-shows/ | Source: TruthOut
09:00 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/top-us-ceos-made-254-times-more-than-median-workers-in-2021-study-shows/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/top-us-ceos-made-254-times-more-than-median-workers-in-2021-study-shows/
09:00 TR Bot; Top US CEOs Made 254 Times More Than Median Workers in 2021, Study Shows
09:01 TR News; Well, Unionizing is good https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/75-americans-support-unionizing-amazon-workers-poll | Source: Common Dreams
09:01 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/75-americans-support-unionizing-amazon-workers-poll https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/19/75-americans-support-unionizing-amazon-workers-poll
09:01 TR Bot; 75% of Americans Support Unionizing Amazon Workers: Poll
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09:06 TR News; BSD: Coverage of OpenBSD Issues Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163924
09:06 TR Bot; BSD: Coverage of OpenBSD Issues | Tux Machines
09:07 matey; and i am not aware of a pango version yet without harfbuzz <- probably because it renders text
09:08 matey; <Techrights-sec> I would hope that the EFF can somehow be slavaged <- i mean, they could jump off the roof
09:09 matey; theyre traitors and frauds
09:09 TR News; Proprietary Sofwtare Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163925
09:09 TR Bot; Proprietary Sofwtare Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:09 matey; they should be shut down
09:09 matey; stop taking peoples money
09:10 matey; i dont know why people are so tolerant of such scams
09:10 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/irc-log-190422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/20/irc-log-190422/
09:11 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 | Techrights
09:11 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163926
09:11 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
09:11 TR News; Debian GNU/Linux has about 1,000 developers and volunteers, but thats not going to be enough when Linux-hostile hardware companies are slinging proprietary firmware; Debian recognises that this puts off some potential new users http://techrights.org/2022/04/19/proprietary-firmware-debian/
09:11 TR Bot; Debian GNU/Linux Means Free as in Freedom, But the Firmware Question Remains Relevant | Techrights
09:11 TR News; Tidelift seems to be concern-trolling the Free/Open Source community; looking at whos actually behind Tidelift, this is hardly surprising http://techrights.org/2022/04/19/tidelift-concern-troll/
09:11 TR Bot; Tidelift is Connected to Microsoft and It Does Not Spread a Positive Message for the Free/Open Source Community | Techrights
09:13 TR News; 19th April 2022 - Easter Break gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/stug/phlog/20220419.txt
09:14 TR News; Hypertext in Emacs: find-file-at-point gemini://bjornwestergard.com/log/2022-04-19-hypertext-emacs.gmi
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09:32 activelow; matey: gtk1, motif, and various x11-libs do not require pango to render text,fonts,widgets
09:34 activelow; the dependency is gtk2/3->pango->harfbuzz, and gtk2/3->harfbuzz (according to the ebuilds); removal of pango and harfbuzz are not possible (with or without farsi/arab/hebrew requirement)
09:35 activelow; furthermore, there is freetype, fontconfig and some libxft (and even those are not required by X11 if truetype/unicode related is not required)
09:36 activelow; it is chaotic; and i could verify already unicode rendered correctly without pango/harfbuzz/freetype/fontconfig/xft inside urxvt... need to test this again, exactly what is required and what isn't
09:37 activelow; pango/harfbuzz certainly are _not_ necessary for unicode/greek/cjk with some terminal emulator i tested with
09:37 matey; and i could verify already unicode rendered correctly without pango/harfbuzz/freetype/fontconfig/xft inside urxvt <- depends what you mean by "correctly"
09:37 activelow; utf-8, umlaute, etc, ncurses styles etc.
09:39 matey; if someone gives you a string and you cant display it without missing parts of it, would you say (as an engineer) that it rendered correctly?
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09:40 activelow; matey: depends, if i haven't got hebrew/arab/farsi fonts (nor would i want those for sure)
09:40 activelow; i am not entirely sure yet about libxft/freetype/fontconfig/truetype-fonts; besides the chosen font and libs probably affect the speed of xterm/rxvt etc.; and maybe this is another reason why i had no performance issues with xterm/rxvt
09:40 activelow; because it didn't render gibberish pipelined into some complicated opengl stack
09:41 matey; by "gibberish" of course you mean four widely spoken languages
09:41 activelow; i'll verify greek at least, because for this i got some test-case
09:41 matey; i think wikipedia can get you sorted
09:42 activelow; yet, greek scipt could be nice to have for maths at least; not sure what arab/farsi/hindi/hebrew would be useful for
09:42 activelow; *script
09:43 activelow; if this is the user-base of GNOME, that's fine of cause
09:43 matey; not sure what arab/farsi/hindi/hebrew would be useful for <- maybe talking with scientists like the indian guy that crunched all the math for that sun shield that went up on that big orbital telescope in 2016...
09:43 matey; but im sure thats nothing compared to telco engineering
09:44 activelow; as said, i have absolute no problem with them using their GNOME, it isn't mine
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09:44 activelow; *absolutely
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09:45 activelow; i'll stick to the original TeX
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09:46 activelow; the only wish i had for them, is to take the pride for their spyware themselves
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09:50 psydruid; > not sure what arab/farsi/hindi/hebrew would be useful for <- maybe talking with scientists like the indian guy that crunched all the math for that sun shield that went up on that big orbital telescope in 2016...
09:50 psydruid; > but im sure thats nothing compared to telco engineering
09:50 psydruid; Those are absolutely rubbish languages spoken by rubbish people. I am telling you they should be abolished in favour of Old Norse and Old Low German.
09:55 activelow; psydruid: they may do whatever they want with GNOME/GTK2,3/Pango/Harfbuzz, i'll not be using this type of software, they may, and take the pride for it
09:55 activelow; i rather disconnect from the internet and hack with the gigatron or z80 stuff, than ever again wasting my time with any gnome-related
09:56 activelow; besides, space shuttle was equipped with i8086, and this is what NASA couldn't source spare parts for anymore, they may go shopping elsewhere
09:56 activelow; since the east-german semi-conductors are, defunct, in favor of what is ruling "free software" nowadays
10:14 TR News; BillBC is a lying machine with a private financial agenda. Now it leverages the LACK of data due to Easter to falsely claim that numbers are decreasing. Yes, well... number of tests have decreased. Lowest since 2020. We're meant to hide the problem?
10:15 TR News; VirtualBox 6.1.34 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernel 5.17 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163927
10:15 TR Bot; VirtualBox 6.1.34 Released with Initial Support for Linux Kernel 5.17 | Tux Machines
10:20 TR News; Early bird discount expires 30th April for The Perl and Raku Conf 2022 http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/04/early-bird-discount-expires-30th-april-for-the-perl-and-raku-conf-2022.html
10:20 TR Bot; bird discount expires 30th April for The Perl and Raku Conf 2022 | dean [blogs.perl.org]
10:20 TR News; QEMU 7.0 Released with KVM Support for RISC-V, ARM and OpenRISC Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163928
10:20 TR Bot; QEMU 7.0 Released with KVM Support for RISC-V, ARM and OpenRISC Improvements | Tux Machines
10:22 TR News; BillBC is turning the British public into careless COVIDiots so that rich sociopaths who don't mingle with the 'hoi polloi' can get richer
10:45 TR News; With About 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in Hospital (Worse in More Than a Year!) BillBC/BBC Lies to the Public Again http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/bbc-lies/
10:45 TR Bot; Blog Archive With About 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in Hospital (Worse in More Than a Year!) BillBC/BBC Lies to the Public Again
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11:32 TR News; Ansible vs Jenkins: DevOps tools comparison https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ansible-vs-jenkins/
11:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ansible-vs-jenkins/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/ansible-vs-jenkins/
11:32 TR Bot; vs Jenkins | DevOps Tools Comparison | TechRepublic
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11:43 TR News; Links 20/04/2022: VirtualBox 6.1.3, QEMU 7.0, and Netflix Imploding | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/qemu-7-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/20/qemu-7-0/
11:43 TR Bot; Links 20/04/2022: VirtualBox 6.1.3, QEMU 7.0, and Netflix Imploding | Techrights
11:43 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163929
11:43 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
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11:47 TR News; Planting Undetectable Backdoors in Machine Learning Models https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.06974
11:47 TR Bot; [2204.06974] Planting Undetectable Backdoors in Machine Learning Models
11:49 TR News; Clown computing and security are mutually incompatible notions, but NSA/CISA want your data at arm's reach https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/19/cisa-releases-secure-cloud-business-applications-scuba-guidance
11:49 TR Bot; CISA Releases Secure Cloud Business Applications (SCuBA) Guidance Documents for Public Comment | CISA
11:51 TR News; Predatory and Unacceptable: e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Outsourcing the Work to the Customers While Raising the Prices Considerably http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/eon-next-energy-limited-predatory-tactics/ 6 msgs included for full context
11:51 TR Bot; Blog Archive Predatory and Unacceptable: e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Outsourcing the Work to the Customers While Raising the Prices Considerably
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11:57 activelow; patched several dozens of ebuilds; there's far more remaining without GTK/c++/cmake than expected
11:58 activelow; including postscript/pdf/transformations etc.; Knuth TeX is still todo, and lots of testing
11:59 activelow; and, if all of this compiles with TinyCC (it does already with gcc47 c-only), this would be awesome
12:00 activelow; furthermore i feel brave enough, to consider GTK-1 and related
12:09 schestowitz-TR; knuth tex lol
12:10 schestowitz-TR; branding
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12:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 288.11
12:13 TR News; NVIDIA submits NVDLA AI accelerator driver to mainline Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163930
12:13 TR Bot; NVIDIA submits NVDLA AI accelerator driver to mainline Linux | Tux Machines
12:17 TR News; I hope it is WELL established by now that Team Mono does NOT use GNU/Linux. They don't care about GNU/Linux either. They're Microsoft pushers.
12:18 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS: Screenshot Tour Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163931
12:18 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS: Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines
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12:27 psydruid; Team Mono/GNOME?
12:27 TR News; daedalOS - desktop environment in the web browser Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163932
12:27 TR Bot; daedalOS - desktop environment in the web browser | Tux Machines
12:28 TR News; 6 Linux distributions to revive an old laptop or PC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163933
12:28 TR Bot; 6 Linux distributions to revive an old laptop or PC | Tux Machines
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12:37 activelow; schestowitz-TR: branding ?
12:59 TR News; Comparing Nearly One Decade of UK Mortalities (Before and After COVID-19 Breakout) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/covid-perspective/
12:59 TR Bot; Blog Archive Comparing Nearly One Decade of UK Mortalities (Before and After COVID-19 Breakout)
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 308.61
13:00 TR News; SUSE Announces Adaptable Linux Platform for SUSE Linux Enterprise Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163934
13:00 TR Bot; SUSE Announces Adaptable Linux Platform for SUSE Linux Enterprise | Tux Machines
13:00 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163935
13:00 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:00 TR News; Stable Kernels: 5.17.4, 5.15.35, 5.10.112, 5.4.190, 4.19.239, 4.14.276, and 4.9.311 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163936
13:00 TR Bot; Stable Kernels: 5.17.4, 5.15.35, 5.10.112, 5.4.190, 4.19.239, 4.14.276, and 4.9.311 | Tux Machines
13:00 TR News; The easiest way to learn Linux for students Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163937
13:00 TR Bot; The easiest way to learn Linux for students | Tux Machines
13:09 activelow; cool, someone wrapped netsurf browser into motif widgets... git-clone from the evilness ... diff patch ... done :)
13:10 AltLink_c52c; New Issue | Encrypted message | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/36
13:10 TR Bot; Encrypted message (#36) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
13:15 SomeH4x0r; did it really move to framagit from disroot?
13:17 SomeH4x0r; sad!
13:18 TR News; Just Before the British Government Announced/Disclosed ~3,000 'Missing' (Unaccounted for) COVID-19 Casualties This Tally Stopped Being Updated, Indicating Almost 200,000 Deaths With COVID-19 and No Sign of Slowing Down (It's Only Getting Worse) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/no-sign-of-covid-slowing-down/
13:18 TR Bot; Blog Archive Just Before the British Government Announced/Disclosed ~3,000 Missing (Unaccounted for) COVID-19 Casualties This Tally Stopped Being Updated, Indicating Almost 200,000 Deaths With COVID-19 and No Sign of Slowing Down (Its Only Getting Worse)
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13:31 TR News; Upgrade Ubuntu Server 20.04 to 22.04 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-8_cQa6AjSw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
13:31 TR Bot; Upgrade Ubuntu Server 20.04 to 22.04 - Invidious
13:34 TR News; Volla Phone 22 runs Ubuntu Touch or a Google-free Android OS (Crowdfunding) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163909#comment-33395
13:34 TR Bot; Volla Phone 22 runs Ubuntu Touch or a privacy-focused Android fork... or both (crowdfunding) | Tux Machines
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13:46 XRevan86; https://r.nf/the2b9 oh, there's a translation
13:46 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r.nf | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://r.nf/the2b9 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://r.nf/the2b9
13:46 TR Bot; people we have a hole in the floor.. - r/collapse
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13:47 TR News; Ditch Office 365: 3 free Microsoft office alternatives for Windows, Linux and macOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163938
13:47 TR Bot; Ditch Office 365: 3 free Microsoft office alternatives for Windows, Linux and macOS | Tux Machines
13:47 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163939
13:47 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
13:49 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: in flakon it shows only comments
13:49 schestowitz-TR; not original or video or image
13:49 schestowitz-TR; the web is a piece of shit
13:50 XRevan86; schestowitz: https://i.redd.it/j00g70tq97o81.png
13:50 XRevan86; r.nf is libreddit
13:51 TR News; Re: The Mechanical Keyboard Addiction gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220420-re-keyboards.gmi "They were heavy and sturdy."
13:52 schestowitz; thanks
13:52 schestowitz; direc link to images is always good
13:52 schestowitz; no programs running in the background
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13:54 TR News; No! If you use this piece of crap, a TOY called WSL, you are HELPING MICROSOFT in its ATTACK on GNU/Linux. Install proper distros. https://linuxstoney.com/do-i-install-linux-or-use-the-windows-subsystem-discover-it/
13:54 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/do-i-install-linux-or-use-the-windows-subsystem-discover-it/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/do-i-install-linux-or-use-the-windows-subsystem-discover-it/
13:54 TR Bot; I install Linux or use the Windows Subsystem? discover it - LinuxStoney
13:54 TR News; IBM vendor locked for the back end https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/20/deploy-keycloak-single-sign-ansible
13:54 TR Bot; Deploy Keycloak single sign-on with Ansible | Red Hat Developer
13:56 AltLink_c52c; [:R] schestowitz-TR: the web is a piece of shit <- Correction, the surfaceweb is. Take the red pill to dive into the darkweb. It is more fun than surfaceweb
13:56 AltLink_c52c; [:R] There is generic anon forum if you want to waste|spend|enjoy your time.
13:56 TR News; "The speedup for ordinary C++ code is dramatic I regularly see a 7x performance improvement. For example, on this machine, startup on gdb itself drops from 2.2 seconds to 0.3 seconds." https://tromey.com/blog/?p=1084
13:56 TR Bot; Faster GDB Startup The Cliffs of Inanity
13:56 schestowitz-TR; AltLink_c52c: there is no "dark" web
13:57 schestowitz-TR; it's just a damon/demonisation term
13:57 schestowitz-TR; some script kiddie who try to sound edgy
13:57 schestowitz-TR; adopted the term
13:57 XRevan86; The original: https://t.me/morozovaeva000/7
13:57 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @morozovaeva000
13:57 schestowitz-TR; and some idiots like "web3" use that to sell their scams and (pyramid) schemes
13:58 schestowitz-TR; AltLink_c52c: case of point,
13:58 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86 just posted one photo
13:58 schestowitz-TR; it's a simple drawing
13:58 schestowitz-TR; static
13:58 schestowitz-TR; I had to press OK on about 30 dialogues just for it to open
13:59 schestowitz-TR; because I use a "bad" browser
13:59 schestowitz-TR; we don't need to fix this
13:59 schestowitz-TR; we cannot
13:59 schestowitz-TR; we should throw it away
13:59 schestowitz-TR; like a use Kleenex
13:59 schestowitz-TR; and try to create something better
13:59 XRevan86; schestowitz: To open t.me or r.nf?
14:00 schestowitz; (cheeta) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D565.jpg
14:00 schestowitz-TR; that's how to share photos
14:00 schestowitz-TR; *cheetah
14:00 schestowitz-TR; for MinceR
14:00 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: to click on that and see an image with Russian language
14:00 schestowitz-TR; in rekonq
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14:01 TR News; "Set mostly in Zambia, "The Old Drift" follows the intertwined lives of three families from the early 1900s to the near future. The vast scope is grounded by detailed descriptions of specific events in the characters' lives." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2021-04-22_the-old-drift.gmi
14:02 XRevan86; schestowitz: Ah, Telegram doesn't give the image that easily. There is a direct link at least, but it cannot be taken from the page. But I only shared that as reference, that this strip is created by Eva Morozova.
14:02 TR News; Mindless buzzword-dropping by clueless IBM https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/artificial-intelligence-ai-4-priorities-cios
14:02 TR Bot; Artificial Intelligence (AI) strategy: 4 priorities for CIOs | The Enterprisers Project
14:04 TR News; ICBM is promoting disinformation and fake news, blaming the victims of a failing economy, using nonsensical myths like "Great Resignation" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/it-leadership-3-best-practices ICBM deserves a boycott, I think. Like Microsoft criminals, it's a force of occupation...
14:04 TR Bot; IT leadership: 3 best practices to strengthen today's teams | The Enterprisers Project
14:08 schestowitz-TR; as a sanity check (a word ICM says it's a bad term that should be avoided)
14:08 schestowitz-TR; am I off my rocker here or it is widely accepted that this ICBM myth, which
14:08 schestowitz-TR; it spreads every week, is basically blame-shifting to the victim?
14:08 schestowitz-TR; like microsoft blaming the attackers or the victims for security issues?
14:11 TR News; "So I've been working on improving LO text layout performance, as specified by the TDF tender. As it says, text layout in LO can be rather slow, because of problems like repeated text layout calls for the same text." http://llunak.blogspot.com/2022/04/improving-text-layout-performance.html
14:11 TR Bot; llunak: Improving text layout performance
14:11 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163940
14:11 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:11 TR News; A Linux in 10 megabytes? This is Tiny Core Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163941
14:11 TR Bot; A Linux in 10 megabytes? This is Tiny Core Linux | Tux Machines
14:12 TR News; Petter Reinholdtsen (Debian): "Recently I wanted to upgrade the firmware of my thinkpad, and located the firmware download page from Lenovo (which annoyingly do not allow access via Tor, forcing me to hand them more personal information that I would like)."
14:13 TR News; More Gulag surveillance inside your home. '1984' is here already. https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/googles-arduino-powered-device-provide-soothing-signals/
14:13 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/googles-arduino-powered-device-provide-soothing-signals/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/googles-arduino-powered-device-provide-soothing-signals/
14:13 TR Bot; Google's Arduino-powered devices provide soothing signals | Arduino Blog
14:16 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/themes/english finally
14:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: novayagazeta.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://novayagazeta.eu/themes/english https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://novayagazeta.eu/themes/english
14:16 TR Bot; . - novayagazeta.eu
14:18 TR News; "The evaluation kit adopts the 32-bit Arm Cortex-M4F MCU which has a maximum frequency of 120MHz. Other relevant features include a Floating Point Unit (FPU), a Memory Protection Unit (MPU), 256KB SRAM and a 32-channel Direct Memory Access Controller (DMAC)." https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/
14:18 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/
14:18 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/microchip-evaluation-kit-for-mid-range-touchscreen-applications/ )
14:18 TR News; Linux Computing on an Android Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163942
14:18 TR Bot; Linux Computing on an Android | Tux Machines
14:19 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: it had me connect to about 7 domains
14:19 schestowitz-TR; and then spewed out a blank page at me
14:20 TR News; PS4 Release: Nobara OS (Linux Distro) + Max Payne 3 and GTA 4 Full Screen Gameplay https://wololo.net/2022/04/20/ps4-release-nobara-os-linux-distro-max-payne-3-and-gta-4-full-screen-gameplay/
14:20 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: wololo.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://wololo.net/2022/04/20/ps4-release-nobara-os-linux-distro-max-payne-3-and-gta-4-full-screen-gameplay/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://wololo.net/2022/04/20/ps4-release-nobara-os-linux-distro-max-payne-3-and-gta-4-full-screen-gameplay/
14:20 TR Bot; Release: Nobara OS (Linux Distro) + Max Payne 3 and GTA 4 Full Screen Gameplay - Wololo.net
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14:22 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2204162
14:23 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6218cao2sfr81.jpg created on 2022-04-16 00:17:05.467330
14:23 XRevan86; schestowitz: Uh, JS is disabled then?
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14:28 XRevan86; Well, someone made a JS-heavy website it seems %).
14:30 schestowitz-TR; so it's not even a web page anymore
14:31 schestowitz-TR; it's like Adobe Flash
14:33 TR News; Laura Tucker has just issued attention-shifting propaganda for Netflix. Gross.
14:34 XRevan86; No Atom/RSS feed either, bummer.
14:36 TR News; OSI has just changed its Web site
14:38 TR News; OSI now calls its blog "Voices of Open Source". But some of these voices are MICROSOFT employees pushing PROPRIETARY GitHub!! Appalling.
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14:38 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: obsolete then
14:38 schestowitz-TR; not to mention technical debt
14:38 schestowitz-TR; this URL will be dead in the next 5 years
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14:48 TR News; Peter 'CzP' Czanik should know better than to issue this post, helping Microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux. WSL is a weapon against us, it should be thrown in the bin. https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/windows-subystem-for-linux/
14:48 TR Bot; Windows made easy: Windows Subystem for Linux | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
14:48 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163943
14:48 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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14:54 TR News; geteltorito make CD firmware upgrades a breeze https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/geteltorito_make_CD_firmware_upgrades_a_breeze.html
14:54 TR Bot; Petter Reinholdtsen: geteltorito make CD firmware upgrades a breeze
15:03 TR News; [PATCH printk v3 00/15] printk/for-next - John Ogness https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220419234637.357112-1-john.ogness@linutronix.de/ Source: linutronix
15:03 TR Bot; [PATCH printk v3 00/15] printk/for-next - John Ogness
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15:04 TR News; Announcing HPVM 2.0 Release - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums https://discourse.llvm.org/t/announcing-hpvm-2-0-release/61888 Source: discourse
15:04 TR Bot; Announcing HPVM 2.0 Release - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums
15:05 TR News; "The first thing to install was f-droid [2] as the app repository. F-droid has a repository of thousands of free software Android apps as well as some apps that are slightly less free which are tagged appropriately." https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/04/20/android-without-play/
15:05 TR Bot; Android Without Play etbe - Russell Coker
15:06 TR News; AlmaLinux 9.0 Beta Released for Community Testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163944
15:06 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9.0 Beta Released for Community Testing | Tux Machines
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15:12 TR News; "Linux" does not have folders. It has directories. https://linuxstoney.com/save-space-by-compressing-files-and-folders-in-linux/
15:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/save-space-by-compressing-files-and-folders-in-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/save-space-by-compressing-files-and-folders-in-linux/
15:12 TR Bot; space by compressing files and folders in Linux - LinuxStoney
15:15 TR News; Those are NOT "Linux commands". Linux is a kernel. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657592/using-whereis-whatis-and-which-to-find-out-about-commands-on-linux.html
15:15 TR Bot; Using whereis, whatis, and which to find out about commands on Linux | Network World
15:17 TR News; No, it's proprietary software and it is controlled by criminals who put back doors in everything, so it should be avoided, abandoned. https://linuxstoney.com/will-we-ever-see-a-free-version-of-office-on-linux/
15:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/will-we-ever-see-a-free-version-of-office-on-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxstoney.com/will-we-ever-see-a-free-version-of-office-on-linux/
15:17 TR Bot; we ever see a free version of Office on Linux? - LinuxStoney
15:19 TR News; The PocketReform is a made-in-Berlin Linux handheld Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163945
15:19 TR Bot; The PocketReform is a made-in-Berlin Linux handheld | Tux Machines
15:20 TR News; st/mesa: Replace glsl_to_tgsi() with glsl_to_nir() and nir_to_tgsi(). (!8044) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/8044 Mesa: Microsoft's ANTI-LINUX OK, old code bye-bye
15:20 TR Bot; st/mesa: Replace glsl_to_tgsi() with glsl_to_nir() and nir_to_tgsi(). (!8044) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
15:22 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163946
15:22 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:23 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163947
15:23 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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15:24 TR News; Ubuntu/Canonical clownwashing https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-next-gen-open-source-financial-services-cloud they used to have more technical people. This is marketing BS.
15:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-next-gen-open-source-financial-services-cloud https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-next-gen-open-source-financial-services-cloud
15:24 TR Bot; next-gen open source financial services cloud | Ubuntu
15:25 TR News; Buzzwords from ICBM too https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/mainframe-edge-red-hat-enterprise-linux-ibm-z16-next-generation-ibm-zsystems
15:25 TR Bot; From the mainframe to the edge: Red Hat Enterprise Linux for IBM z16 the next generation of IBM zSystems
15:26 TR News; md-toc version 8.1.3 (beta) released on 20 April 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Md-toc
15:26 TR Bot; Md-toc - Free Software Directory
15:27 TR News; FOSSlife Team now shilling the 'diploma mill' of its umbrella, LPI. It's not even about Linux!! https://www.fosslife.org/lpi-adds-web-development-essentials-program
15:27 TR Bot; LPI Adds Web Development Essentials Program
15:28 TR News; Online session: The future of Router Freedom in Austria - FSFE https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220420-01.en.html Source: gulag deutschland
15:28 TR Bot; Online session: The future of Router Freedom in Austria - FSFE
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15:29 TR News; "The Taguette app is a free and open source qualitative research tool. It is also a web-based self-hosted solution that anyone can install on his local machine or web server." https://medevel.com/taguette-research/
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15:29 TR Bot; Taguette is an open-source collaborative qualitative analysis tool
15:30 XRevan86; "this URL will be dead in the next 5 years" <- No way of knowing.
15:30 TR News; "Manuskript is a free, open-source feature-rich writing tools for carrier writers. It is customized for novel writers who write fiction." https://medevel.com/manuskript-writing/
15:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/manuskript-writing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/manuskript-writing/
15:30 TR Bot; Manuskript an open-source novel writing assistant app for Windows, Linux, and macOS
15:30 MinceR; "This tape will self-destruct in 5 seconds"
15:31 schestowitz-TR; one can guess
15:31 schestowitz-TR; based on the CMS
15:31 schestowitz-TR; and the complexity and volatility of it
15:32 TR News; https://medevel.com/duckdb/
15:32 TR Bot; DuckDB is an in-process SQL OLAP database management system
15:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/duckdb/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/duckdb/
15:32 TR News; DuckDB is an in-process SQL OLAP database management system https://medevel.com/duckdb/
15:32 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/duckdb/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/duckdb/
15:34 TR News; Try Kubernetes 1.24 release candidate with MicroK8s | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/try-kubernetes-1-24-release-candidate-with-microk8s Source: ubuntu
15:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/try-kubernetes-1-24-release-candidate-with-microk8s https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/try-kubernetes-1-24-release-candidate-with-microk8s
15:34 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.24 release candidate with MicroK8s | Ubuntu
15:35 TR News; The Stream of Time (180358) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/stream-of-time/ Source: publicdomainreview
15:35 TR Bot; The Stream of Time (180358) The Public Domain Review
15:35 TR News; xkcd: Entwives https://xkcd.com/2609/ Source: xkcd
15:35 TR Bot; Entwives
15:35 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2609/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2609/
15:36 TR News; Added 3 minutes ago: Distributing freedom: How package managers empower software users (slides) https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/distributing-freedom-how-package-managers-empower-software-users-slides/
15:36 TR Bot; Distributing freedom: How package managers empower software users (slides) GNU MediaGoblin
15:36 TR News; The Arduino IDE 2.0 now speaks your language Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/the-arduino-ide-2-0-now-speaks-your-language/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
15:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/the-arduino-ide-2-0-now-speaks-your-language/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/20/the-arduino-ide-2-0-now-speaks-your-language/
15:37 TR Bot; The Arduino IDE 2.0 now speaks your language Arduino Blog
15:37 TR News; Cooler Master Pi Case 40 V2 launched together with 3D printable assets - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/20/cooler-master-pi-case-40-v2-3d-printable-assets/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
15:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/20/cooler-master-pi-case-40-v2-3d-printable-assets/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/20/cooler-master-pi-case-40-v2-3d-printable-assets/
15:37 TR Bot; Cooler Master Pi Case 40 V2 launched together with 3D printable assets - CNX Software
15:40 TR News; Social control media = waste of time. "Ever think about how most of the debates we have on social media seem to fade in and die out after a day or so?" https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/
15:40 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/
15:40 TR Bot; The Great Stirrup Controversy: Lynn White, Jr.s Spicy Medieval Take
15:42 TR News; "It is insane to me that cryptocurrencies are still a thing." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/clever-cryptocurrency-theft.html
15:42 TR Bot; Cryptocurrency Theft - Schneier on Security
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16:01 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2204161
16:01 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0ivcsqdbb4t81.jpg created on 2022-04-16 00:10:21.429735
16:04 TR News; Best Linux distro for beginners (2022) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163948
16:04 TR Bot; Best Linux distro for beginners (2022) | Tux Machines
16:06 TR News; "North American business development manager for IIoT and Linux." https://www.ebmag.com/wago-names-tyrone-visser-business-development-manager-for-iiot-and-linux/
16:06 TR Bot; Wago names Tyrone Visser business development manager for IIoT and Linux - Electrical Business
16:07 TR News; "Sockets allow networked software to communicate. They were first implemented in the 4.2BSD Unix operating system, which was created at the University of California, Berkeley, in 1983." https://www.howtogeek.com/787892/how-to-read-data-from-a-socket-in-bash-on-linux/
16:07 TR Bot; How to Read Data From a Socket in Bash on Linux
16:08 TR News; "Rocky Linux aims to be "100% bug-for-bug compatible" with Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and is one of several potential distributions you can migrate to from CentOS as we used to know it. In this video, we'll take a look at the installation process." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30uePMhtcGc
16:08 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=30uePMhtcGc
16:08 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | Rocky Linux: Full Installation Walkthrough - Invidious
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16:37 TR News; Added 55 minutes ago: The Net beyond the Web (slides) https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-net-beyond-the-web-slides/
16:37 TR Bot; The Net beyond the Web (slides) GNU MediaGoblin
16:38 TR News; Kodachi 8.17 is released. https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/
16:38 TR Bot; Linux Kodachi 8.17 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization
16:39 TR News; "This wont be some kind of very thorough review, because I have no idea how to finish a shootem up without cheating or training for hundred hours to get good enough, but take it as it is: my impression of Hyper-5, a new shootem up released a few weeks back." https://boilingsteam.com/hyper-5-a-new-shootem-up-that-works-great-on-linux-proton/
16:39 TR Bot; Hyper-5, A New Shoot'em Up That Works Great on Linux (Proton) - Boiling Steam
16:40 TR News; No, it is not released. Fake news by lousy sites. https://itsubuntu.com/ubuntu-22-04-lts-released/
16:40 TR Bot; 22.04 LTS Jammy Jellyfish Released : Download ISO And Upgrade | Itsubuntu.com
16:41 TR News; "AlmaLinux OS is a Linux distribution that aims to be a drop-in replacement for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and is one of several potential distributions you can migrate to from CentOS as we used to know it. In this video, we'll take a look at the installation process." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgyIzAkz1Ts
16:41 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=MgyIzAkz1Ts
16:41 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | AlmaLinux OS: Full Installation Walkthrough - Invidious
16:41 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agc1nTG_SF0
16:41 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=agc1nTG_SF0
16:42 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | How to install Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS - Invidious
16:46 TR News; Some Lenovo laptops may be carrying a serious security flaw Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163949 http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/
16:46 TR Bot; Some Lenovo laptops may be carrying a serious security flaw | Tux Machines
16:46 TR Bot; Microsoft Secure Boot and Intel VMD Pointless on GNU/Linux and Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off | Techrights
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 17.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.16
17:00 TR News; Links 20/04/2022: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Nearly Ready | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/ubuntu-22-04-lts/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/20/ubuntu-22-04-lts/
17:00 TR Bot; Links 20/04/2022: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Nearly Ready | Techrights
17:01 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163950
17:01 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:01 TR News; Free, Libre Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163951
17:01 TR Bot; Free, Libre Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:02 TR News; Linux in Devices and Arduino Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163952
17:02 TR Bot; Linux in Devices and Arduino Projects | Tux Machines
17:02 TR News; Games: Nobara OS and Hyper-5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163953
17:02 TR News; Videos: Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS and RHEL Clones (Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163954
17:02 TR News; Videos: Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS and RHEL Clones (Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163954
17:02 TR Bot; Games: Nobara OS and Hyper-5 | Tux Machines
17:02 TR Bot; Videos: Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS and RHEL Clones (Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux) | Tux Machines
17:02 TR News; Videos: Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 LTS and RHEL Clones (Rocky Linux and AlmaLinux) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163954
17:03 TR News; Servers: Ubuntu, Red Hat, dna SUSE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163955
17:03 TR Bot; Servers: Ubuntu, Red Hat, dna SUSE | Tux Machines
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17:05 TR News; IBM will weaponise its vendor lockin to push subscriptions, upgrades etc. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/updates-using-ansible-rhel-86-and-90
17:05 TR Bot; Updates to using Ansible in RHEL 8.6 and 9.0
17:06 TR News; "Cheat sheets help you work smarter. Here is my compilation of four cheat sheets that I find useful." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/favorite-cheat-sheets
17:06 TR Bot; cheat sheets I can't live without | Opensource.com
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17:23 MinceR; https://neilmadden.blog/2022/04/19/psychic-signatures-in-java/
17:23 TR Bot; CVE-2022-21449: Psychic Signatures in Java Neil Madden
17:27 TR News; Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/after-easter/
17:27 TR Bot; Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!)
17:32 TR News; Video: AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview http://www.montanalinux.org/almalinux9beta-overview-20220420.html
17:32 TR Bot; AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview | www.montanalinux.org
17:33 TR News; Skullgirls 2nd Encore Umbrella update and DLC out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/skullgirls-2nd-encore-umbrella-update-and-dlc-out-now/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
17:33 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/skullgirls-2nd-encore-umbrella-update-and-dlc-out-now/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/skullgirls-2nd-encore-umbrella-update-and-dlc-out-now/
17:33 TR Bot; 2nd Encore Umbrella update and DLC out now | GamingOnLinux
17:33 TR News; Clickbaity buzzwords https://www.fosslife.org/chaos-engineering-explained
17:33 SomeH4x0r; fuck DLCs
17:34 TR Bot; Chaos Engineering Explained
17:34 TR News; itsubuntu is becoming a nasty, malicious, fake news site. NO, it's NOT released yet. https://itsubuntu.com/ubuntu-budgie-22-04-lts-released/
17:34 TR Bot; Budgie 22.04 LTS Released | Itsubuntu.com
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17:56 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22041564
17:56 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bf1ea4kj4br81.jpg created on 2022-04-15 23:12:08.026080
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18:11 AltLink_c52c; New Issue | Read the latest posts - "US Tax Day 2022. How leaving it to the last day impacts tax sites" | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/37
18:11 TR Bot; Read the latest posts - "US Tax Day 2022. How leaving it to the last day impacts tax sites" (#37) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
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18:52 TR News; "I just wanted to quickly chime in and say that (for what it's worth) I completely agree with solderpunk's ideas [1-3] for a possible new protocol and assessment of where the current one falls short." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-06-17-Too-much-magic.txt
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 103.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 288.23
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19:08 TR News; If they mostly target Microsoft Windows, than Microsoft can be just as culpable as Russia, but CISA/NSA are in bed with Microsoft, so they will never say that https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/20/russian-state-sponsored-and-criminal-cyber-threats-critical
19:08 TR Bot; Russian State-Sponsored and Criminal Cyber Threats to Critical Infrastructure | CISA
19:10 TR News; Funny run and gun game Mighty Goose gets a free upgrade | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/funny-run-and-gun-game-mighty-goose-gets-a-free-upgrade/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
19:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/funny-run-and-gun-game-mighty-goose-gets-a-free-upgrade/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/funny-run-and-gun-game-mighty-goose-gets-a-free-upgrade/
19:10 TR Bot; run and gun game Mighty Goose gets a free upgrade | GamingOnLinux
19:13 TR News; PostgreSQL: Call for Papers for Postgres Vision 2022 is Still Open! https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/call-for-papers-for-postgres-vision-2022-is-still-open-2441/ Source: postgresql
↺ https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/call-for-papers-for-postgres-vision-2022-is-still-open-2441/
19:13 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Call for Papers for Postgres Vision 2022 is Still Open!
19:15 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://imgur.com/t/cats/nmEmnCW
19:15 TR Bot; Imgur into cats? - Album on Imgur
19:15 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/nmEmnCW https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://imgur.com/t/cats/nmEmnCW
19:16 TR News; itsubuntu seems to have become a deeply rogue site, fabricating news for clicks
19:19 TR News; How Does Linux Help Reduce E-Waste? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163956
19:19 TR Bot; How Does Linux Help Reduce E-Waste? | Tux Machines
19:19 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163957
19:19 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:22 TR News; Notepad Next - Notepad++ Re-implementation with Linux Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163958
19:22 TR Bot; Notepad Next - Notepad++ Re-implementation with Linux Support | Tux Machines
19:22 TR News; Ubuntu 20.04 vs 22.04: What Has Changed Between the Two LTS Releases? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163959
19:22 TR Bot; Ubuntu 20.04 vs 22.04: What Has Changed Between the Two LTS Releases? | Tux Machines
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20:06 TR News; ONLYOFFICE + ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors make for a great in-house cloud-based document system Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163960
20:06 TR Bot; ONLYOFFICE + ONLYOFFICE Desktop Editors make for a great in-house cloud-based document system | Tux Machines
20:06 TR News; Stellar Repair for MySQL: Linux Version Review Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163961
20:06 TR Bot; Stellar Repair for MySQL: Linux Version Review | Tux Machines
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20:13 TR News; [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support - joao https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220420004241.2093-1-joao@overdrivepizza.com/ Source: overdrivepizza
20:13 TR Bot; [RFC PATCH 00/11] Kernel FineIBT Support - joao
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20:18 Erroneous; hi peeps
20:21 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163962
20:21 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:24 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163963
20:24 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:24 schestowitz-TR; hi, Erroneous
20:27 TR News; Clownwashing and Linuxwashing or Googlebombing to push some proprietary snakeoil that likely makes systems LESS secure https://securitybrief.co.nz/story/sophos-unveils-cloud-protection-advancements-with-linux-and-offerings
20:27 TR Bot; Sophos unveils cloud protection advancements with Linux and offerings
20:27 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2022/04/20/commodore-c64-the-most-popular-home-computer-ever-turns-40/
20:27 TR Bot; C64: The Most Popular Home Computer Ever Turns 40 | Hackaday
20:28 TR News; Vivaldi 5.2 Web Browser Comes with Syncable Reading Lists https://linuxiac.com/vivaldi-5-2-web-browser/ Source: linuxiac
20:28 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxiac.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxiac.com/vivaldi-5-2-web-browser/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxiac.com/vivaldi-5-2-web-browser/
20:28 TR Bot; Vivaldi 5.2 Web Browser Comes with Syncable Reading Lists
20:29 TR News; No, just quit social control media. Don't try to 'tame' it. You would be wasting time. https://puri.sm/posts/the-future-of-socialmedia/
20:29 TR Bot; The Future of Social Media Depends on You Purism
20:32 Erroneous; The Most Popular Home Computer Ever ?
20:33 Erroneous; define Ever==1984
20:38 MinceR; pretty sure i have several computers in my home that are far more powerful than any C64
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20:40 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: [16:46] <techrights-news> Some Lenovo laptops may be carrying a serious security flaw Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163949 http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/secure-boot-and-vmd/
20:40 TR Bot; Some Lenovo laptops may be carrying a serious security flaw | Tux Machines
20:40 TR Bot; Microsoft Secure Boot and Intel VMD Pointless on GNU/Linux and Lenovos Documentation Recommends That You Turn Them Off | Techrights
20:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Backflushing and acid treatment worked.
20:44 DaemonFC; A ton more "radiator diarrhea" came out.
20:45 DaemonFC; Heater blowing at 147 degrees F.
20:46 MinceR; diarrhea, cha-cha-cha
20:48 TR News; A Pandemic of Webspam and Fake News About GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/
20:48 TR Bot; A Pandemic of Webspam and Fake News About GNU/Linux | Techrights
20:48 schestowitz-TR; diarrhea, fart-fart-fart-fart
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20:50 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-YUwNlb-tY
20:50 TR Bot; https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=n-YUwNlb-tY
20:50 TR Bot; vid.puffyan.us | diarrhea cha-cha-cha - Invidious
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20:55 schestowitz; O I C
20:55 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-store-atlanta-union
20:55 TR Bot; store employees in Atlanta are filing to unionize - Protocol
20:56 schestowitz-TR; let's hope workers will do this in the millions
20:56 schestowitz-TR; starbucks, sweatshopzone, rotten...
20:56 schestowitz-TR; eventually the system can be changed by coordinated refusal to work
20:57 TR News; Grab a big load of the X Universe space games from Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/grab-a-big-load-of-the-x-universe-space-games-from-humble-bundle/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
20:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/grab-a-big-load-of-the-x-universe-space-games-from-humble-bundle/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/grab-a-big-load-of-the-x-universe-space-games-from-humble-bundle/
20:57 TR Bot; a big load of the X Universe space games from Humble Bundle | GamingOnLinux
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 350.36
20:59 TR News; WSL is Windows and an attack on GNU/Linux; the way it's spun for FUD against "Linux" is distasteful https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/QUALYS-INC-11612572/news/Qualys-Implications-of-Windows-Subsystem-for-Linux-for-Adversaries-Defenders-Part-2-40102023/
20:59 TR Bot; : Implications of Windows Subsystem for Linux for Adversaries & Defenders (Part 2) | MarketScreener
21:00 TR News; "Remember I left IBM (involuntarily)" https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/interested-in-a-job-in-the-us-at-asml/ the sociopaths and liars at ICBM call that "GREAT RESIGNATION" when they SACK loads of people
21:00 TR Bot; Interested in a job in the US at ASML? | Alien Pastures
21:00 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163964
21:00 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
21:01 Erroneous; can WSL eun android?
21:01 TR News; Combating disinformation or misinformation is very important; sadly, even in the GNU/Linux blogosphere theres no lack of false information, sometimes intentionally put there for SEO purposes http://techrights.org/2022/04/20/fake-news-about-ubuntu/
21:01 schestowitz-TR; iirc, that exists already
21:01 schestowitz-TR; and it sucks, too
21:01 schestowitz-TR; and no reason to use that
21:03 psydruid; what is the advantage?
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21:03 Erroneous; LSW works better
21:04 psydruid; there are already things like Waydroid and Anbox for running Android apps, but there isn't really a point
21:04 Erroneous; why?
21:05 Erroneous; i could run andoid apps on linux
21:05 psydruid; the only reason why it's important to Microsoft is because they have lost developers writing native software for Windows
21:05 psydruid; sure, you could
21:05 psydruid; but what apps would you run?
21:06 DaemonFC; Okay, I reset the modem. Comcast said if I upgraded to Internet Essentials Plus then it would still be within the price of the ACP subsidy.
21:06 Erroneous; that birfd game
21:07 DaemonFC; Flappy Bird?
21:07 Erroneous; flapybird
21:08 DaemonFC; <Erroneous> can WSL eun android?
21:08 Erroneous; have you played it?
21:08 DaemonFC; It can, kind of.
21:08 DaemonFC; It's not Google Play enabled, without an unofficial hack that violates the Play ToS.
21:08 DaemonFC; Microsoft recommends the Amazon App Store. LOL
21:09 DaemonFC; F-Droid probably works on the Android Runtime in WSL.
21:09 Erroneous; Amazon App Store has floppy birds?
21:10 DaemonFC; Dunno.
21:10 DaemonFC; I don't have Amazon App Store.
21:10 psydruid; floppy birds or flappybird?
21:10 bnchs; lol
21:10 bnchs; android subsystem for windows
21:10 Erroneous; gnome already looks like android so why not
21:10 DaemonFC; It's out there flopping around.
21:10 bnchs; it reminds me of a GNU joke email
21:11 DaemonFC; I think there's something wrong with that bird.
21:11 schestowitz-TR; 1-0 Mahrez!
21:11 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
21:11 DaemonFC; Maybe it drank some of my diarrhea coolant.
21:11 schestowitz-TR; I opened the door, I can hear the announcer from here
21:11 DaemonFC; That's what happens when a woman owns a car.
21:11 bnchs; https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/microsoft-church.html
21:11 TR Bot; Microsoft and the Church - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
21:11 bnchs; this is still accurate
21:12 DaemonFC; As soon as a woman owns a car you can expect things to fail as they age due to utter neglect.
21:12 *psydruid was finally going to watch the summary of yesterday's Liverpool-Man United to see how bad the latter really were
21:12 MinceR; maybe they should also write about MICROS~1's bid to acquire the FSF
21:12 DaemonFC; The woman will also argue that GM-specced oil meant to avoid engine sludging is a ripoff "because I am a woman".
21:13 bnchs; Gates described MICROSOFT's long-term strategy to develop a scalable religious architecture that will support all religions through emulation. A single core religion will be offered with a choice of interfaces according to the religion desiredOne religion, a couple of different implementations, said Gates.
21:14 Erroneous; Gates of hell
21:15 bnchs; this is a email from 1994
21:15 psydruid; the thing he didn't know is that his failed scalable religious architecture would become a subsystem under other operating systems without having to resort to emulation
21:15 psydruid; cf. Wine
21:16 TR News; Proxies for Web Crawling https://marketresearchtelecast.com/proxies-for-web-crawling/245557/
21:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: marketresearchtelecast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://marketresearchtelecast.com/proxies-for-web-crawling/245557/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://marketresearchtelecast.com/proxies-for-web-crawling/245557/
21:16 TR Bot; Proxies for Web Crawling - Market Research Telecast
21:17 TR News; SEJ became pro-spam site https://www.searchenginejournal.com/small-business-marketing-101/443526/
21:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: searchenginejournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.searchenginejournal.com/small-business-marketing-101/443526/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.searchenginejournal.com/small-business-marketing-101/443526/
21:17 TR Bot; Small Business Marketing 101: Getting Started
21:18 Erroneous; " You would need to make a spread shit, structure it, and then proceed to hours upon hours of copy/pasting. By the end of it, the chances are that the prices have changed and your data is useless. "
21:18 Erroneous; a spread shit LOL
21:20 schestowitz-TR; shit engine optimisation
21:21 Erroneous; i need to run my own spiderbot
21:21 Erroneous; and become google like
21:21 schestowitz-TR; spy-dug
21:21 schestowitz-TR; spy-dug
21:21 schestowitz-TR; >> spy-duh
21:22 schestowitz-TR; gulag does not have great algos
21:22 schestowitz-TR; it makes up for it with
21:22 schestowitz-TR; 1) quantity
21:22 schestowitz-TR; 2) spying
21:22 DaemonFC; Car dealers have no interest in educating consumers in what is needed and what isn't.
21:22 schestowitz-TR; good luck running 20,000 servers
21:22 schestowitz-TR; for only a few people to actually use the results you pick
21:22 DaemonFC; If you don't maintain your vehicle, you'll buy another one sooner when you figure yours is not working right anymore.
21:22 schestowitz-TR; 2-0 Foden
21:23 schestowitz-TR; very loud chanting
21:23 DaemonFC; And if you do go get it serviced, some of them actually do try to push unnecessary procedures on you.
21:23 schestowitz-TR; 2) they spy on clicks and stuff
21:23 schestowitz-TR; so the results are based on observing people around the Web
21:23 DaemonFC; Since some actually do this, some people think anything any dealer recommends is a scam.
21:23 Erroneous; i remeber using somer webcrawler search engines
21:23 DaemonFC; Your best bet with a car is to educate yourself a little about what actually needs done, why, and when.
21:23 Erroneous; is that still a thing?
21:24 DaemonFC; Because if you do what my mom does and "rely on others to tell me", either nobody will or they'll start trying to sell you expensive services that may not even be in the owner's manual or related to a repair.
21:25 Erroneous; fuck your mom and your car
21:25 Erroneous; go spam else were
21:25 DaemonFC; Cars have turned into a tech product.
21:26 DaemonFC; This is getting beyond ridiculous.
21:26 DaemonFC; Now with COVID, they have to rip half those features out anyway.
21:26 DaemonFC; It's really interesting when they give you the invoice sticker too.
21:26 Erroneous; why can we quite spambot DaemonFC?
21:26 psydruid; everything is turning into a malicious tech product
21:27 DaemonFC; Because when a vehicle has "cold weather package" (heated seats and side mirrors), they list it as like $800.
21:27 psydruid; even things that aren't supposed to be
21:27 DaemonFC; But when they can't get chips and remove the computer that controls those systems, but not most of the hardware, leaving buttons that don't do anything, and heaters that nothing can operate....
21:27 DaemonFC; They give you a $50 credit. LOL
21:28 psydruid; pity money
21:28 DaemonFC; On less sophisticated cars like the Impala and the Lacrosse that I have, the seat heater is just a toggle switch. It has off, warm, and a second warm setting that's warmer than the first.
21:28 DaemonFC; But these new cars hook it up to the computer and decide how warm the heater in the seat should get based on the outside temperature and how warm you like the heater to be.
21:29 DaemonFC; So, they require their own connection to the BCM and a computer chip just for the stupid seat warmer.
21:29 DaemonFC; Instead of off, I, and II.
21:29 DaemonFC; Never breaks. Too easy!
21:30 DaemonFC; I think now Toyota sells heated seats and then disables them if you don't subscribe to the seats for $10 a month.
21:30 Erroneous; it would be a good idea to fit a transponder on every car
21:30 DaemonFC; Don't pay? Your car gets an update that doesn't allow the seat warmer to be turned on.
21:30 Erroneous; for traffic jam management and things
21:30 DaemonFC; It would be interesting if someone created a bypass for the heated seats.
21:30 DaemonFC; But that might violate the DMCA.
21:31 DaemonFC; In yet another way Congress wasn't thinking about in the 90s.
21:31 Erroneous; Congress wasn't thinking but the companies was
21:32 Erroneous; american cars suck
21:33 Erroneous; im geting a sonos and solar panales to juice my house and car for free
21:33 *psydruid wonders if there are any regulations against such consumer-hostile policies in the EU
21:35 Erroneous; you mean getting a sonos and solar panels to juice my house and car for free?
21:35 Erroneous; im sure they have some regulations hard to bypass
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21:45 Erroneous; https://newatlas.com/military/israel-iron-beam-laser-weapon-counters-multiple-targets-live-fire-tests/
21:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/military/israel-iron-beam-laser-weapon-counters-multiple-targets-live-fire-tests/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newatlas.com/military/israel-iron-beam-laser-weapon-counters-multiple-targets-live-fire-tests/
21:45 TR Bot; "Iron Beam" laser weapon counters multiple targets in live fire tests
21:46 Erroneous; skynet is here to stay
21:46 Erroneous; Iron Beam is an optical fiber laser that can lock onto targets at the speed of light and destroy them within five seconds at a range of up to 7 km (4.3 miles).
21:47 schestowitz-TR; didn't the US test this ages ago?
21:47 schestowitz-TR; they already did a lot of work on that
21:47 Erroneous; this one actually works
21:48 schestowitz-TR; so they claim
21:48 schestowitz-TR; they also said drone strikes would work
21:48 schestowitz-TR; but they're imprecise and messy
21:48 schestowitz-TR; nukes also "work"
21:49 Erroneous; you ill see
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21:50 Erroneous; each laser round costs about a dollar a shot
21:53 Erroneous; https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/
↺ https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/
21:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newatlas.com/energy/breakthrough-tpv-cell-makes-more-power-from-heat-than-a-steam-turbine/
21:53 TR Bot; Breakthrough TPV cell makes more power from heat than a steam turbine
21:54 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> they also said drone strikes would work
21:54 DaemonFC; They are doing ICBMs with conventional explosives now.
21:54 DaemonFC; "Prompt Global Strike"
21:54 schestowitz-TR; "conventional"
21:54 DaemonFC; The goal is to be able to quickly hit any target on the planet in less than an hour with a launch from the US mainland.
21:55 Erroneous; shoulf work great in solar thermal plants
21:55 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: easier with submarine
21:55 schestowitz-TR; if it's not far away from shore
21:55 schestowitz-TR; US also has tons of bases everywhere
21:56 schestowitz-TR; some of today's so-called drone strikes are not even drones
21:56 schestowitz-TR; the drone just picks the target
21:57 schestowitz-TR; and then a heavy missile or bomb is shot from KMs or tens of KMs away by a manned plane
21:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, paints it with a laser.
21:57 schestowitz-TR; the pilot is "safer" this way
21:57 DaemonFC; Yeah, it renders surface to air missiles useless.
21:57 DaemonFC; Because the plane that launched it is far away from the drone.
21:57 DaemonFC; Which is cheap and unmanned.
21:58 DaemonFC; Even if they can shoot the drone down.
21:58 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCNQ0xksZ4
21:58 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=obCNQ0xksZ4
21:58 Erroneous; the pilot is already obsolete
21:58 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | Police Interrogations: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) - Invidious
21:58 schestowitz-TR; skynet stuff
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22:02 TR News; Fewer Nice Days gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202204/20220420-fewer-nice-days.gmi "This part of the world is subject to large swings in temperature throughout the year."
22:03 TR News; "Today I tuned up my slrn config, and I was browsing the Usenet again. Slrn is great tool, but user must has knowledge of the key concepts. One of them is score file. I had been wondering why the default view isn't date ordered. After that I discovered, that you could change order by `ESC s`." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
22:05 TR News; "Sitting in the train. Im going to the office for the first time since the beginning of Corona. I dont like it." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-20%20Time%20management
22:06 TR News; "I've been meaning to learn the language toki pona for more than a decade. It's about time." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-20-toki-pona-exercises-for-lesson-1.gmi
22:07 TR News; "I do wish people would stop talking about the technical side of Gemini on Gemini; it's finished, there's no need to discuss it. But most of what I read is intensely personal." gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20220420-not-giving-up.gmi
22:08 TR News; "The horrible virus has done my tastebuds in. This is *deeply* annoying and frustrating for me. If I try and eat meat or some forms of citrus then it tastes of cigarettes." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420
22:09 TR News; "Honestly it is really getting me down. Given that my Partner and Kid aren't exactly fish fans its forced a bit of a vegetarian lifestyle (okay... pescetarian). I eat Mumble-2021-05-08-16-08-45-aquilegia.ddns.net-Mixdown_data lot* of cheese now. And beer. Beer is lovely. Most wine too. I'm not opposed to this particularly but it is annoying. I miss eating lasagna with the kiddo." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420
22:11 TR News; "Sf politics are absolutely awful. Completely bought and paid for by property developers and big tech. I have basically completely given up on politics." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
22:12 TR News; "It is scary to comment anything on any place on the Big Bad Web. Lately, I hardly ever say anything, I am slowly deleting, forsaking or just forgetting my social media accounts." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/891
22:13 schestowitz-TR; [21:58] <Erroneous> the pilot is already obsolete
22:13 schestowitz-TR; they call operators "pilots" sometimes
22:13 schestowitz-TR; some of them blow the whistleblowers
22:13 schestowitz-TR; I had two online 'friends' who are drone whistleblowers
22:14 TR News; 2013 classic Proteus gets an update for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2013-classic-proteus-gets-an-update-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
22:14 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2013-classic-proteus-gets-an-update-for-linux-and-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/2013-classic-proteus-gets-an-update-for-linux-and-steam-deck/
22:14 TR Bot; classic Proteus gets an update for Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
22:18 TR News; Gulag and clown computing = inferior experience, a step back http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1671
22:18 TR Bot; Running Anthos inside Google
22:18 TR News; "Task manager is one of the few parts of Windows that I really like but on Linux you can get all the same sort of data it's just in seperate tools, System Monitoring Center though brings all of that data into one place." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLHeY36szU
22:18 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=gJLHeY36szU
22:18 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | This Is Windows Task Manager For Linux!! - Invidious
22:18 TR News; Games: Skullgirls, Mighty Goose, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163965
22:18 TR Bot; Games: Skullgirls, Mighty Goose, and More | Tux Machines
22:24 TR News; Just don't call them "pleasure cards" if you're RMS and there are corporate mobs looking for anything to 'cancel' you https://www.makeuseof.com/create-send-recognition-cards-to-team/
22:24 TR Bot; How to Create and Send Recognition Cards to Your Team
22:25 TR News; Web: Social Control Media, Proprietary Web Browser (Vivaldi), and Crawlers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163966
22:25 TR Bot; Web: Social Control Media, Proprietary Web Browser (Vivaldi), and Crawlers | Tux Machines
22:25 TR News; A look at American terrorism https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1259749.shtml
22:25 TR Bot; Exclusive: How CIA uses cyber weapon Beehive to monitor, attack global key targets - Global Times
22:25 Erroneous; I CONFESS
22:26 DaemonFC; Yelp keeps removing my review of Batteries Plus in Gurnee, Illinois.
22:26 TR News; Do you really need to count them? Are they merely inventories to us? https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/charity-antarctica-post-office-penguins-b2051287.html just stay the hell out of it and stop destroying the planet
22:26 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/charity-antarctica-post-office-penguins-b2051287.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/charity-antarctica-post-office-penguins-b2051287.html
22:26 TR Bot; British charity on hunt for team to help count penguins in Antarctica | The Independent
22:26 schestowitz-TR; welcome to the clown
22:27 DaemonFC; They say I offended the owner by calling him a nut for calling me at me house, cursing at me, and threatening to call the police over my credit card dispute with the bank.
22:27 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: maybe wordpress.com is next
22:27 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: maybe he wasn't John Smith
22:27 schestowitz-TR; so calling him anything is not OK
22:27 schestowitz-TR; it's "hate crime"
22:28 TR News; False assumption: coding is high-paying https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/
22:28 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/ )
22:28 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: impactalpha.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://impactalpha.com/how-pursuit-is-upskilling-low-income-new-yorkers-for-high-paying-coding-jobs/
22:28 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/20/yelp-keeps-removing-my-review-of-batteries-plus-in-gurnee-illinois/
22:28 TR Bot; Yelp keeps removing my review of Batteries Plus in Gurnee, Illinois. BaronHK's Rants
22:29 TR News; The highest-paying jobs are in theft. In crime. They do this in the private and public sector alike and formalise these with terms like "hedge funds".
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22:32 TR News; How To Be A GNU/Linux User - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cC1CqyCN9Q0 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
22:32 TR Bot; How To Be A Linux User - Invidious
22:32 DaemonFC; So much for Yelp saying they don't remove reviews to protect a business's reputation.
22:32 DaemonFC; Obviously the guy is watching his page and reported me for calling him a nut.
22:32 TR News; FLOSS Weekly became Linux Journal. See staff. https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/677
22:32 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/677 )
22:32 DaemonFC; So I removed the parts that I feel might be construed as offensive and stuck to what happened and re-posted it.
22:33 DaemonFC; The only thing I added was "Bonus points for not being able to figure out how a behind-the-wheel gear shifter works.
22:34 TR News; "Code of Conduct!" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/20/yelp-keeps-removing-my-review-of-batteries-plus-in-gurnee-illinois/ 1 report of staff at a sponsor booth ignoring a woman attendee http://techrights.org/2022/04/15/code-of-conduct-in-action/
22:34 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation Does Not Want You to See How a Code of Conduct is Actually Enforced at Its Events | Techrights
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22:37 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: you should have given a "5 star minus 4" review
22:37 schestowitz-TR; to make sure everyone is happy
22:38 schestowitz-TR; and nobody's feelings are "hurt"
22:38 schestowitz-TR; "my experience was not perfect"
22:38 schestowitz-TR; wait, too much negation
22:38 schestowitz-TR; Let me find a way to rephrase it
22:39 schestowitz-TR; "I hope my next experience will be even better!"
22:39 schestowitz-TR; Linus Torvalds: your code smells lovely
22:39 Erroneous; less then 4 stars is just like a dislike button on you tube
22:40 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview, Observable, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163967
22:40 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: AlmaLinux 9 Beta Overview, Observable, and More | Tux Machines
22:40 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: you're Irish now?
22:41 schestowitz-TR; "calling me at me house"?
22:41 schestowitz-TR; "me likes me beer, matey"
22:41 Erroneous; "calling me at mi house"?
22:41 schestowitz; "They say I offended the owner, Bhushan Chouhan, by calling him a nut for calling me at me house, cursing at me, and threatening to call the police over my credit card dispute with the bank."
22:41 Erroneous; "me likes mi beer, matey"
22:43 Erroneous; matey isnt here today
22:43 TR News; It's all in India... https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-best-python-engineer-jobs-to-apply-for-in-april-2022/ notice how much outsourcing is going on, not due to lack of skills but salaries (corporate greed)
22:43 TR Bot; Top 10 Best Python Engineer Jobs to Apply for in April 2022
22:44 Erroneous; are you calling DaemonFC a catholic ~schestowitz
22:44 TR News; "Python Software Foundation: The Python Software Foundation (PSF) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation that holds the intellectual property rights behind the Python programming language." https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-programming-languages-and-their-funding-genies/ and already hijacked by Pentagon giants
22:44 TR Bot; Top 10 Programming Languages and Their Funding Genies
22:45 schestowitz-TR; non of me bizniz
22:46 TR News; No, their real, natural habitat is the oasis to them. Stop turning them into props and exhibitions https://curiocity.com/polk-penguin-conservation-center/
22:46 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: curiocity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://curiocity.com/polk-penguin-conservation-center/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://curiocity.com/polk-penguin-conservation-center/
22:46 TR Bot; The incredible Polk Penguin Conservation Center is a day trip from Toronto
22:47 TR News; Wayne Rooney is a very talented footballer but a terrible coach https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/wayne-rooneys-derby-county-relegated-to-3rd-tier-of-english-football
22:47 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/wayne-rooneys-derby-county-relegated-to-3rd-tier-of-english-football https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.freepressjournal.in/sports/wayne-rooneys-derby-county-relegated-to-3rd-tier-of-english-football
22:47 TR Bot; Wayne Rooney's Derby County relegated to 3rd tier of English football
22:48 TR News; Facebook spam! Webspam. META METASOMETHING META META... help us rebrand by spamming, please! https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/entertainment/horizon-worlds-identity-crisis-meta
22:48 TR Bot; Meta is looking to the video game industry for metaverse inspiration - Protocol
22:49 DaemonFC; at my house
22:49 DaemonFC; typo
22:50 DaemonFC; fixed
22:50 schestowitz; https://lwn.net/Articles/891273/
22:50 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/891273/ )
22:50 schestowitz; "[$] Fedora considers deprecating legacy BIOS"
22:51 DaemonFC; What is the politically correct term for asking if one is due back at the lab to have their bolts tightened?
22:52 TR News; Way to choose a bad venue https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/20/curl-up-2022-san-francisco/
22:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/20/curl-up-2022-san-francisco/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/20/curl-up-2022-san-francisco/
22:52 TR Bot; up 2022 San Francisco | daniel.haxx.se
22:57 MinceR; https://thecodinglove.com/when-they-ask-for-my-estimate
22:57 TR Bot; When they ask for my estimate | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
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22:59 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/20/radiator-flush-success-a-second-flush-with-blue-devil-at-the-chevy-dealer-restored-my-heat/
22:59 TR Bot; Radiator Flush SUCCESS. A second flush with Blue Devil at the Chevy dealer restored my heat. BaronHK's Rants
23:00 DaemonFC; Mandy doesn't understand things when I explain them to him.
23:00 DaemonFC; He says "Turn the heat on." when the car is off.
23:01 DaemonFC; I explain, "The engine produces heat when it is running, which heats up the coolant, which flows through the heater core, which is transferred into the cabin by the blower. Without the car running, you cannot run the heater.".
23:02 DaemonFC; Then he wonders why it's cold with the car on for a while. I have to explain, "Because the engine has to run long enough to reach operating temperature before the heater fully works. Which is why there is a remote starter on this car that is programmed to run the heater when you use it.".
23:02 DaemonFC; Then he asks the same questions next week when it's cold and the car is either off or not warmed up.
23:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I probably will turn in my license before electric cars become mainstream.
23:05 DaemonFC; You think a 14 year old Buick is a money pit because it needs some coolant and a transmission service, wait until you get a load of what a used battery car costs the second owner!
23:07 DaemonFC; Or a used BMW, for that matter.
23:07 Erroneous; deam
23:07 DaemonFC; People buy old BMWs and Mercedes cars because they only cost a couple thousand dollars and they either do one of two things.
23:07 DaemonFC; Try to fix them until they've spent $10,000 fixing it and it's still not working well, or just drive the car while it falls apart around them and not even the windows work anymore.
23:08 Erroneous; windows never worked
23:09 TR News; Did Mozilla pay a PR agency (PKPR) to spam me and others? While sacking engineers they toss money on totally BS lobbying and lies (and email spam)? Irene Dominque, irene@pkpr.com = SPAMMER.
23:10 TR News; Mozilla's CEO Miss Banker [sic] is ruining the company and destroying Firefox so fast that you wonder if Banker is to Gulag what Elop was to Microsoft (inside Nokia)
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23:12 schestowitz-TR; mi matey came after all
23:12 matey; eh?
23:12 schestowitz-TR; [22:43] <Erroneous> matey isnt here today
23:12 Erroneous; speak of the devil
23:12 matey; >:)
23:13 SomeH4x0r; hi
23:13 matey; hi
23:13 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soz1R9UqHAI
23:13 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=Soz1R9UqHAI
23:13 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Dexcool is a horrible coolant - Invidious
23:13 SomeH4x0r; barto was today on TWISTED
23:13 matey; /me nods
23:14 matey; it seems like hes not online when i am
23:14 SomeH4x0r; they were online like two hours ago before you, and left one hour ago
23:14 SomeH4x0r; *came online
23:15 SomeH4x0r; 00:35 <+barto> i'll probably be back in 20 hours
23:15 SomeH4x0r; 00:35 <+barto> or 21
23:15 SomeH4x0r; the time is in UTC+3, so it would be 21:35
23:15 SomeH4x0r; in UTC
23:15 matey; schestowitz-TR "me likes me beer, matey" <- ?????
23:16 matey; MinceR maybe they should also write about MICROS~1's bid to acquire the FSF <- if it wasnt for mincer i would feel really bad for this channel
23:16 matey; /me isnt kidding
23:17 SomeH4x0r; did it happen?
23:17 matey; did what happen
23:17 SomeH4x0r; maybe I have some misunderstanding about the roots of the issue, but I'm still suspicious about FSF due to it being a big organization
23:18 SomeH4x0r; the Microsoft bid
23:18 matey; MinceR diarrhea, cha-cha-cha <- beavis and butthead terrorising poor hipster girl
23:18 matey; <SomeH4x0r> the Microsoft bid <- i think he was being cynical. youre not literally allowed to bid on 501(c)3 orgs. you can only infiltrate the board and bribe them.
23:18 matey; which is SORT OF like owning them
23:18 matey; metaphorically
23:18 Erroneous; fucking hipsters
23:18 SomeH4x0r; maybe I have some misunderstanding about the roots of the issue, but I'm still suspicious about FSF due to it being a big organization
23:19 matey; usually i dislike hipsters
23:19 MinceR; so do i
23:19 Erroneous; thats what DaemonFC is
23:19 matey; I'm still suspicious about FSF <- no reason not to be, theyve abandoned their mission
23:19 matey; <Erroneous> thats what DaemonFC is <- *pictures dfc as a hipster*
23:20 matey; that would be fucking priceless
23:20 Erroneous; i bet DaemonFC sports a beard
23:20 matey; i imagine any situation involving a hipster and dfc would lead to the hipster crying and/or trying to file a lawsuit against him
23:21 matey; and god help him
23:21 matey; the hipster i mean
23:21 Erroneous; why hipsters love old muscle cars too
23:21 matey; MinceR pretty sure i have several computers in my home that are far more powerful than any C64 <- none as COOL though
23:22 MinceR; they could be as cool, if i put them in the fridge
23:22 matey; /me hacks into the m41nfr4me using c64 and unix manuals
23:23 matey; password: GOD
23:23 matey; im in!
23:23 Erroneous; c64 was used for war games
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23:24 schestowitz-TR; you cannot use that password
23:24 schestowitz-TR; G**
23:24 schestowitz-TR; yehovah
23:24 schestowitz-TR; you cannot just type "god"
23:24 matey; password: ALLOW
23:24 schestowitz-TR; it's against the CoC
23:24 AdmFubar; how about heysuse?
23:24 schestowitz-TR; you might give some unorthodox man a seizure
23:25 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, they check passwords?
23:25 AdmFubar; has one of the coolest c64's.. a sx-64
23:25 bnchs; for words?
23:25 matey; /me didnt know the coc had gone haredi
23:25 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/04/15/code-of-conduct-in-action/
23:25 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation Does Not Want You to See How a Code of Conduct is Actually Enforced at Its Events | Techrights
23:26 matey; password: OYGEVALT
23:26 matey; oy very, maria
23:27 matey; /me trashes keyboard and gets another
23:27 matey; thats the last punchline you fuck up
23:27 schestowitz-TR; you cannot hand out 'offensive' leaflets
23:27 matey; /me shows old keyboard to new keyboard, so it understands
23:27 schestowitz-TR; like pictures of Prophet Mohammad licking a CoC
23:27 matey; wow
23:27 schestowitz-TR; that would get the booth set ablaze
23:27 schestowitz-TR; then the same in the parking lot
23:28 matey; atheists be like: "i made a painting of jesus. it has some poo on it"
23:28 matey; "i hope people appreciate the artistic message here"
23:28 matey; we all do it of course, it has to be done
23:28 Erroneous; Im atheist so i joined the satanic league
23:29 matey; though im generally nice to (ahem, most) religious people, since i dont actually like pissing them off all the time
23:29 matey; if theyre dicks though, its open season
23:30 matey; "ill get you, and your little god too"
23:32 matey; The Netflix limited series "Unorthodox" follows Esty, a young Hasidic woman desperate to flee the only world she has ever known for an uncertain future halfway around the world.
23:33 matey; For Members of Israel's ultra-Orthodox Gur Sect, Sex Is a Sin.
23:33 Erroneous; you will get a fatwa put out on you
23:34 matey; note that in judaism, you have to be ULTRA ORTHODOX (more than just plain old orthodox) for that to be a thing
23:34 Erroneous; only for them?
23:34 matey; for catholicism, you just have to be catholic
23:34 matey; then EVERYTHING is a sin
23:34 matey; even not sinning (because its immodest and proud)
23:35 Erroneous; if EVERYTHING is a sin you would have to be god not to sin
23:36 matey; im just a gur, id rather not be, cause they wont let me go out at night
23:36 DaemonFC; <Erroneous> i bet DaemonFC sports a beard
23:36 matey; if EVERYTHING is a sin you would have to be god not to sin <- that of course would be blaspheme
23:36 matey; of course you dont have to be religious to be ultra-orthodox anymore. you just have to agree to the coc oath
23:36 matey; <DaemonFC> <Erroneous> i bet DaemonFC sports a beard <- no he has a husband
23:36 DaemonFC; No, I shave in the shower every day. I bath in hand soap because body wash is hand soap for idiots who want to pay $15 for $4 worth of hand soap.
23:37 DaemonFC; And I shave with shampoo that's leftover from my hair to avoid having to buy shaving cream.
23:37 matey; (cause if he had a beard she would just be for show)
23:38 DaemonFC; I was going through about a can every 5-6 weeks and I figured that if it costs $2 a can and there's 52 weeks in a year, then that's a $17.33 a year product I can ditch.
23:38 Erroneous; i bet you are jealous of people with beards
23:38 DaemonFC; Why would you work for an hour to have shave cream when you already have other products for that?
23:38 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg
23:39 TR Bot; No Doubt - Just A Girl - Invidious
23:39 Erroneous; you could use a shavinbg machine
23:39 matey; a smart shaver, with bluetooth
23:39 matey; has a wireless charging platform
23:40 Erroneous; why would you want bluetoth
23:40 matey; if you hold it away from your face it takes a selfie and puts it on social media to show how close your shave is
23:40 MinceR; lol
23:40 matey; why WOULDNT you want bluetooth
23:40 MinceR; why not do that over wifi or cellular though?
23:40 matey; ok boomer
23:40 MinceR; what if your phone isn't near when you're shaving?
23:41 matey; /me has bluetooth in his bluetooth so it can connect to itself
23:41 matey; its always paired
23:41 MinceR; lol
23:41 Erroneous; ima gona make me a hardware mod for smartphone with a shaver ond post it on yakaday
23:42 Erroneous; paired to the smart toothbrush
23:42 matey; a yak is an open source version of a gnu
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23:43 Erroneous; imagine if you could have your nasdac delivered strait to your toothbrush
23:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I was joking about Carvana with the guy at the service department at Chevy this morning.
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23:44 DaemonFC; I said, "Well, I could have done a lot worse. Like buying the same car on Carvana for $14,000, running into all these problems, and having no money to fix it.".
23:44 Erroneous; WE HAVE A CONFESSION!
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23:47 Erroneous; i bet most of the police inquisitors draw their methods from the Sunday evangelical church preacher
23:48 Erroneous; or something like taht
23:48 Erroneous; and some of them confessions are reall life miricals
23:49 Erroneous; miracles
23:50 DaemonFC; I don't confess to anyone.
23:50 DaemonFC; Not the police. Not the child molester with the funny hat (priest).
23:50 DaemonFC; I admit nothing.
23:51 Erroneous; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-20/amazon-europe-unit-paid-no-taxes-on-55-billion-sales-in-2021
23:51 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
23:51 DaemonFC; My toothbrush has bluetooth and an app.
23:51 DaemonFC; I never use it.
23:51 Erroneous; why to go besos
23:52 Erroneous; DaemonFC i bet you shave like besos
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23:54 matey; that was fun
23:55 DaemonFC; I cut my hair.
23:55 DaemonFC; $20 and a tip to Great Clips. I can fuck up my own hair for free.
23:56 Erroneous; i know DaemonFC it sucks to be you
23:57 Erroneous; what was matey?
23:57 matey; /me lets Erroneous learn the hard way
23:57 matey; you have some issue with DFC i guess
23:58 Erroneous; nothing much
23:58 matey; it isnt worth it
23:58 Erroneous; what isnt?
23:58 matey; youll see
23:59 Erroneous; is that a threat?
23:59 matey; not at all
23:59 matey; im not looking out for anyone
23:59 Erroneous; ofcourse not
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