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1 AM, April 19

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6 AM, April 19

06:07 schestowitz-TR; The reason the ytalk connection was dropped, my machine was rebooted

06:07 schestowitz-TR; I studied the logs, after I had taken the opportunity to do a full system update

06:07 schestowitz-TR; and could not see anything connection the ongoing drive warnings

06:07 schestowitz-TR; to the incident

06:07 Techrights-sec; no worries, it should have reconnected automatically form my

06:07 Techrights-sec; end though

06:07 Techrights-sec; from my end though

06:08 Techrights-sec; I have a loop going here.

06:10 schestowitz-TR; so it turns out alex jones, like andrew lee, is also living the us lifestyle

06:10 schestowitz-TR; 50k in assets, then just borrow... 1 million to 10 million

06:10 schestowitz-TR; and they say this is the world's most potent economt

06:10 schestowitz-TR; (never mind motivation o bury the debt in ch11)

06:10 Techrights-sec; yep goog riddance to him though I suppose his backers won;t let his be the end of him and his bullshit

06:10 Techrights-sec; yep another "successful bankruptcy" to show at business schools as a model

06:12 schestowitz-TR; theory: the national deficit, granting about 20 trillion in public debt is about a decade or a little more

06:12 schestowitz-TR; covers up for the fakeness of the private sector

06:12 schestowitz-TR; which is in the red

06:16 Techrights-sec; it's hard to explain but the money is not the global currency but the debt

06:16 Techrights-sec; itself, that also gives more leverage over the borrower

06:16 Techrights-sec; yes and it does help hide the fakeness of the private sector

06:16 Techrights-sec; an additional problem is that Enron-style accounting is now allowed and

06:16 Techrights-sec; encouraged so it is almost impossible to find out what the bottome line is.

06:17 Techrights-sec; Generally that takes an audit and business schools have prepared scammers

06:17 Techrights-sec; for that by teaching everyone how to keep two separate sets of books, only

06:17 Techrights-sec; one of which is for the government. The big Enterprise Resource Planning

06:17 Techrights-sec; packages don't let people keep track of that for their business anyway.

06:17 Techrights-sec; It has become a shell game.

06:17 Techrights-sec; Yes, in otherwords they are intentionally obfuscating their dire situation

06:17 schestowitz-TR; See, I am not so stupid but I could never make sense of the financial statement of a 10-person (little more) company

06:17 schestowitz-TR; where I have been for over 10 years

06:17 schestowitz-TR; my BS meter off the chart, I still needed help from better sniffers

06:22 schestowitz-TR; don't mean to sound cocky, but it seems a good majority of companies are like that

06:22 schestowitz-TR; some are more upfront about it

06:22 schestowitz-TR; apparently rianne and I, as we do have actual savings and no debt/liabilities, are

06:22 schestowitz-TR; a lot better off than a god majority of households

06:22 schestowitz-TR; two days ago I saved about 30 pounds on food and did exercise at the same time (went to 7 shops+1 at

06:22 schestowitz-TR; the end, a second visit)

06:22 schestowitz-TR; not many people in those

06:22 schestowitz-TR; high inflation rates penalise not only savers, they hurt everybody

06:23 Techrights-sec; perhaps, but as mentioned it is now established practice to cook the books

06:23 Techrights-sec; and to use accoubnting methods which facillitate that

06:23 Techrights-sec; yes that is a goal ,but the low interest rates also discourage savings,

06:23 Techrights-sec; they try to push everyone to put their money into speculation instead.

06:23 Techrights-sec; Basically they wish people to gamble what little they might have put away

06:25 schestowitz-TR; yes, in IRC I've said this repeatedly over the past year

06:25 schestowitz-TR; Wall Street now eats the middle class (what's left of it)

06:25 schestowitz-TR; by putting more pressure on remaining savers to "feed the machine"

06:25 schestowitz-TR; this will end like in 2007-8

06:25 Techrights-sec; ... what's left of the middle class is rapidly vanishing, pushed down

06:25 Techrights-sec; into poverty

06:28 schestowitz-TR; 1) the standards of "poverty" are adjusted

06:28 schestowitz-TR; 2) "full employment" redefined

06:28 schestowitz-TR; 3) more hours, more working people per household

06:28 schestowitz-TR; 4) reducation in compensation, pension age etc.

06:28 schestowitz-TR; "if you can't make it good, make it look like you need Epstein for "rich people"..."

06:28 schestowitz-TR; Because that's all he is renowned for, nothing else....

06:29 Techrights-sec; the definition of poverty is bent also to exclude more impoverished people

06:29 Techrights-sec; from the category, so effectively much of the lower end of what had been

06:29 Techrights-sec; middle class is in practice poor and feeling it

06:29 Techrights-sec; basically

06:30 schestowitz-TR; it is even worse when you factor in much of the "lifestyle" being fed by loans

06:30 schestowitz-TR; our old filmmaking friend contemplated suicide over it 15 years ago

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06:32 Techrights-sec; that's too bad;

06:32 Techrights-sec; I think he's doing much better now, bites from pinnepeds aside

06:32 Techrights-sec; ^pinniped

06:32 schestowitz-TR; it's the financial equiv of anabolic steroids

06:32 schestowitz-TR; make me look big now

06:32 schestowitz-TR; we'll worry about all "that bad stuff" later on

06:32 Techrights-sec; yep, to a certain extent

06:40 schestowitz-TR; with soma and all that, they make yet more "susccess stories"

06:40 schestowitz-TR; more billionaires like sackler family with purdue

06:40 schestowitz-TR; so there's something to celebrate after all!

06:40 schestowitz-TR; in 'ol england' they had pubs and booze to compel the hard-working class to keep

06:40 schestowitz-TR; working harder

06:40 schestowitz-TR; but the drugs are no longer limited to liquid form

06:40 schestowitz-TR; the last effect is also longer

06:40 schestowitz-TR; if the drinking shortens the life, no pension, work till death

06:40 schestowitz-TR; a sort of lifespan or longevity 'eugenics'

06:42 Techrights-sec; another thing the us does is the culture, especialy through business, puts

06:42 Techrights-sec; nearly everybody in a dire situation where the normal reaction is stress

06:42 Techrights-sec; if not downright depression then instead of fixing the problem or moving the

06:42 Techrights-sec; people to better jobs (on the false assumption that any exist) they sell

06:42 Techrights-sec; expensive mindaltering medication to force a happy or at least less depressed

06:42 Techrights-sec; feeling into their heads -- for an additional fee

06:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db377.htm

↺ https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db377.htm

06:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cdc.gov | Products - Data Briefs - Number 377 - September 2020

06:42 Techrights-sec; and that's the /old/ data, not including recent years

06:42 Techrights-sec; https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/antidepressant-prescribing-up-6-since-2019

↺ https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/antidepressant-prescribing-up-6-since-2019

06:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pharmaceutical-journal.com | Antidepressant prescribing up 6% in last three months of 2020 - The Pharmaceutical Journal

06:42 Techrights-sec; (UK(

06:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/04/Antidepressant-use-rising-in-US-mostly-in-women-CDC-says/7341599224503/

↺ https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/04/Antidepressant-use-rising-in-US-mostly-in-women-CDC-says/7341599224503/

06:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Antidepressant use rising in U.S., mostly in women, CDC says - UPI.com

06:42 Techrights-sec; on average women are more in tune with surroundings and environment

06:42 Techrights-sec; pint-a-day

06:42 Techrights-sec; more importantly larger business can charge more for them and they

06:42 Techrights-sec; are able to exclude smaller businesses from participation

06:42 Techrights-sec; old:

06:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624

↺ https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624

06:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.harvard.edu | Astounding increase in antidepressant use by Americans - Harvard Health

06:42 Techrights-sec; chinese fentanyl or taliban heroin shortens it more and faster

06:42 Techrights-sec; it also removes people from politics, like Pince or Tom Petty, more conveniently than what had to be done with John Lennon

06:55 Techrights-sec; yes in pratcie there is a eugneics programme against those that are honest

06:55 Techrights-sec; hard working , smart, or a combination there of.

06:55 Techrights-sec; Look for example at the characteristics selected for in the US military and

06:55 Techrights-sec; then the long term darwinian fitness effect their time in the service has

06:55 Techrights-sec; it's even bad for the officers, not just the enlisted

06:55 Techrights-sec; patriotism overlaps with a kind of altruism, so that too is being bred out

06:55 Techrights-sec; china is also doing a heavy eugenics programme against its citizens with

06:55 Techrights-sec; the social credit score; they look to be trying to breed obedience and

06:55 Techrights-sec; unquestioningness into the population or at least remove independence and

06:56 Techrights-sec; questioning from the gene pool

06:56 Techrights-sec; Europe is doing quite badly too.

06:57 schestowitz-TR; I have checked the film archive of our friend

06:57 schestowitz-TR; it's still there fully intact (on the surface of it)

06:57 schestowitz-TR; in the Internet Archive


7 AM, April 19

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07:16 schestowitz-TR; "At the Chevrolet dealer to get the Buick fixed, I noticed that nobody was in there to buy a car." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022

↺ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022

07:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | 2022 BaronHK's Rants

07:17 schestowitz-TR; /04/19/at-the-chevrolet-dealer-to-get-the-buick-fixed-i-noticed-that-nobody-was-in-there-to-buy-a-car/\

07:17 Techrights-sec; yep the "luxury" cars are real lemons since all repairs *must* take place

07:17 Techrights-sec; at the dealer so that too becomes a revenue stream

07:18 schestowitz-TR; https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/

07:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/ )

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/in-push-for-profits-pfizer-pre-empting-national-governments-powers/

07:21 Techrights-sec; ack

07:21 Techrights-sec; and the other vaccine lines seem to have been starved of funding even

07:21 Techrights-sec; though they looked very promising

07:21 Techrights-sec; on another topic, /tmp/techrights-monitor-tr.py has the updated monitoring

07:21 Techrights-sec; script here; it's not set up for more than one site at a time but has a lot

07:21 Techrights-sec; of bells and whistles which I find useful

07:21 Techrights-sec; at around 03:40 UTC each day there is a bit of a slowdown but not long enough

07:21 Techrights-sec; to trigger a full alarm

07:21 Techrights-sec; yes I remember, it's just that even with ionice and nice in use the site

07:21 Techrights-sec; slows down enough to notice

07:22 schestowitz-TR; that's the backup time, with wordpress being the biggest toll

07:22 schestowitz-TR; that used to result in much longer period of unavailability

07:22 schestowitz-TR; when that machine was about 8 cores

07:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe the db locks up until the dump is complete and httpd keeps connections to it on hold

07:22 schestowitz-TR; i forgot how that works, we've not had to worry much since the server move

07:23 Techrights-sec; that could be it though I don't know enough about the db to say either way

07:23 Techrights-sec; it has to lock the tables in some way for a period of time in order to

07:23 Techrights-sec; have a coherent dump

07:25 schestowitz-TR; this technical approach may sound obscene until you realise the size of the DB when not compressed

07:25 schestowitz-TR; for tuxmachines the 170k nodes being dump also leads to a sort of 'hang', but it lasts under a minute

07:25 schestowitz-TR; to tuxmachines visitors it's like "the site is a bit slow" and then it comes back OK with a page

07:25 Techrights-sec; yes it is huge

07:25 Techrights-sec; TR is as far as I know an unusually large wordpress instance

07:25 Techrights-sec; yes the slowdown is short nowadays, that is quite good

07:27 schestowitz-TR; I don't have to speculate how much hosting on such hardware costs "in the market", per anum

07:27 schestowitz-TR; *annum

07:28 Techrights-sec; It is quite a generous contribution

07:50 schestowitz-TR; https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/

07:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/ )

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/one-third-of-child-care-workers-in-us-going-hungry-despite-labor-shortage/

07:51 Techrights-sec; the dedicated work ethic is being bred out

07:51 Techrights-sec; as people starve to death while doing important/essential jobs

07:51 Techrights-sec; That study was from 2019, the situatioon is most likely far worse from

07:51 Techrights-sec; 2020 and 2021

07:54 schestowitz-TR; i could sound like an old cliche, but...

07:54 schestowitz-TR; automation was supposed to help people work less

07:54 schestowitz-TR; let the invention take care of much of the rest

07:54 schestowitz-TR; sweden did, at one point, experiement with workhours reduction

07:54 schestowitz-TR; maybe that was there to stay

07:54 schestowitz-TR; switzerland (rich) dabbled in ubi

07:54 schestowitz-TR; for some corporate/ruling class these programmes are undesirable

07:54 schestowitz-TR; in weaker democracies these can never materialise

07:54 schestowitz-TR; let alone get tested

07:54 schestowitz-TR; one alternative does exist

07:54 schestowitz-TR; reject the system

07:54 schestowitz-TR; work at the margins of it

07:54 schestowitz-TR; and do not obey

07:58 Techrights-sec; kind of, but the societal pressure to work oneself deep into debt is

07:58 Techrights-sec; tremendous and a matter of knowledge, given that the educational system

07:58 Techrights-sec; was neutralied in the US during the Reagan administration the knoweldge

07:58 Techrights-sec; has been gone for a while

07:58 schestowitz-TR; I am miffed only by the term "work deep into debt"

07:58 schestowitz-TR; as it is the consumption (of kids) that cause the debt

07:58 schestowitz-TR; the work, unless it's something like gambling, it not likely to cause

07:59 schestowitz-TR; the debt

07:59 schestowitz-TR; but creating a business that operates at a loss might

07:59 schestowitz-TR; you work and lose at the same time

07:59 Techrights-sec; partially, cars, wasteful travel and kids

07:59 Techrights-sec; kids are reckeoned to cost 250 k EUR to raise to 18, and the costs

07:59 Techrights-sec; extend for quite a few years after 18 these days

07:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51233/51233-h/51233-h.htm

↺ https://www.gutenberg.org/files/51233/51233-h/51233-h.htm

07:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gutenberg.org | The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Marching Morons, by C. M. Kornbluth.


8 AM, April 19

08:03 schestowitz-TR; kids and cars are connected

08:03 schestowitz-TR; because cars are expected when you have kids

08:03 schestowitz-TR; people ask funny questions when you walk the kids 45-minute walks

08:03 schestowitz-TR; to get places

08:03 schestowitz-TR; esp. in certain weather

08:03 schestowitz-TR; so it is another "hidden" cost

08:03 schestowitz-TR; which few ould factor in

08:03 schestowitz-TR; *would

08:03 schestowitz-TR; lol, "the marching morons"

08:03 schestowitz-TR; I like the title

08:03 schestowitz-TR; incidentally, upstairs 20 mins ago rianne and I joked about our colleagues

08:03 schestowitz-TR; who actually invested their personal money in the company

08:03 schestowitz-TR; to them, well... they work hard like mules

08:03 schestowitz-TR; to us, no... we do the bare minumium and don't care

08:05 Techrights-sec; yes if you have kids the logistics of raising them *requires* that a car

08:05 Techrights-sec; is used even in most of Europe

08:05 Techrights-sec; that adds to the debt, and now even in Europe there is a growing trend

08:05 Techrights-sec; for societies to cultivate "student debt" as if that were a normal thing

08:05 Techrights-sec; wtf? That's foolish

08:05 Techrights-sec; especially given the pull towards clown and M$

08:05 Techrights-sec; if the company were heading in a viable direction that woud be a different

08:05 Techrights-sec; matter, but clown and m$ are a dead end

08:05 Techrights-sec; tyhen again mules are not smart nor known for being smart

08:08 schestowitz-TR; 1) it's not clown and MS, but clown and some occasional nonfree

08:08 schestowitz-TR; which is still now goog

08:08 schestowitz-TR; *good

08:08 schestowitz-TR; 2) in the UK we had the show (predates my adult life) Only Fools and Horses

08:08 schestowitz-TR; and you know what comes after that

08:08 schestowitz-TR; rianne anmd I already joke that if one day the company goes under we'll be like "LOL! real sorry!"

08:08 schestowitz-TR; This sort of mindset is quite healthy, I think

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08:10 Techrights-sec; yes, the numbers show that it is a bad investment, one should never invest

08:10 Techrights-sec; for other than solid numbers not wishful thinking or other emotional factors

08:10 Techrights-sec; At least a certain level of detachment is healthy

08:10 Techrights-sec; However, apropos cores mentioned earlier, Kaniini mentioned "soon", is there

08:10 Techrights-sec; any way to help with that? I suppose it is a matter of time which he doesn

08:10 Techrights-sec; have though

08:11 schestowitz-TR; a new job and little spare time led to this

08:11 schestowitz-TR; but worry not, at least the verbal commitment is there

08:11 schestowitz-TR; 12 months ago it was not that good

08:13 schestowitz-TR; judging by volume of daily links, easter monday too got shaved off as a holiday

08:13 schestowitz-TR; each year it feels to me like the "champion" economy and the "bext system!"

08:13 schestowitz-TR; is trying to sustain itself like the EPO does

08:13 schestowitz-TR; by stealing more and more from workers

08:13 schestowitz-TR; Battistelli tookm away many holidays

08:13 schestowitz-TR; his orange minion brought nonse back

08:13 schestowitz-TR; *non

08:13 schestowitz-TR; *none

08:15 schestowitz-TR; holiday became "long weekend" and long weekend is now just "slow Friday"

08:15 schestowitz-TR; boohoo! can't wait till dec 24th (rianne already booked a day off work so we can

08:15 schestowitz-TR; bargain-hunt that day) when we have a "long weekend" again

08:15 Techrights-sec; yes, the presence of any links at all is due almost entuirely to

08:15 Techrights-sec; trolling through the RSS feeds

08:17 schestowitz-TR; same in quiterss

08:17 schestowitz-TR; it doesn't feel much different than the average weekene

08:17 schestowitz-TR; but maybe cause I mostly follow non-corporate blogs

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08:20 Techrights-sec; same

08:22 schestowitz-TR; can't complain

08:22 schestowitz-TR; I need to post some things to "feel" productive

08:22 schestowitz-TR; and I don't need a break from work/kids/stress

08:22 schestowitz-TR; but I had some tgasks in my TODO list which I relied on the "long weekend" (formerly known as holiday)

08:22 schestowitz-TR; to get everything done

08:22 schestowitz-TR; some of the backup stuff for instance

08:22 schestowitz-TR; lots of stuff happening in the background

08:22 schestowitz-TR; without it, I'd be able to write more

08:22 schestowitz-TR; I lowered my irc activities a bit

08:22 schestowitz-TR; a lot of the time it's not leading to any good articles

08:23 Techrights-sec; ack

08:23 Techrights-sec; excercise several times per day is important and getting up from the computer every 20 minutes for at least a few miniutes is essenti

08:23 Techrights-sec; al

08:23 Techrights-sec; ok if it is in good hands with mincer

08:24 schestowitz-TR; one potential area to expand in: find more stuff, esp. aggregator, for Planet Gemini

08:24 schestowitz-TR; this is where I go for all my "discoverables"

08:26 schestowitz-TR; as for exercise, I got my shotput ball wrapped up in a used pillowcase to do exercise with, like in a gym

08:26 schestowitz-TR; the other ball is with a friend, Mark

08:26 schestowitz-TR; I've not seen him in 10 months due to the plague

08:26 schestowitz-TR; there's no sign of that being brought under control

08:26 schestowitz-TR; "we are the controls!!!"

08:27 Techrights-sec; excellent

08:27 Techrights-sec; if you had 3 you could juggle but only if there are neighbor below :P

08:27 Techrights-sec; yes, there is no sign of leveling off anywhere that I have read about

08:28 schestowitz-TR; this is the proper 7.2kg, the 6kg is with my friend

08:28 schestowitz-TR; he too might be using it sometimes

08:28 schestowitz-TR; so I don't want to ask for it back

08:28 schestowitz-TR; one can be creative to get the same done with one, like one set each arm

08:28 schestowitz-TR; and stairs foir climbing exercise

08:31 Techrights-sec; "The Flying Karamazov Brothers" used to challeng the audience to bring

08:31 Techrights-sec; up 3 things to juggle until one person brought up to the stage

08:31 Techrights-sec; 1) a bowling ball

08:31 Techrights-sec; 2) a pingpong ball

08:31 Techrights-sec; 3) a pound of butter

08:31 schestowitz-TR; LOL!

08:31 schestowitz-TR; paper, rock, scissors

08:32 Techrights-sec; they've since modified the rules for their challenge

08:37 schestowitz-TR; Chinese Republic of Macron https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/18/french-president-again-calls-for-an-end-to-online-anonymity/

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/18/french-president-again-calls-for-an-end-to-online-anonymity/

08:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-French President (Again) Calls For An End To Online Anonymity | Techdirt

08:37 schestowitz-TR; I should prepare to explain that my two masks and hoodie are a religious ritual

08:37 schestowitz-TR; and that it would violate by religious freedom to identify with something other

08:38 schestowitz-TR; than fingerprints on cash In hand out

08:39 Techrights-sec; LOL might work

08:39 Techrights-sec; these days

08:40 schestowitz-TR; next, the "cranks" and "COVIDiots" are people who take their health seriously

08:40 schestowitz-TR; according yo modified government narratives and leaflets

08:40 schestowitz-TR; worse yet -- they might be terroprists anmd pedos waiting to attack

08:40 schestowitz-TR; "take off their mask! Punch the nazis"

08:40 schestowitz-TR; I should form a united front with Saudi women!

08:40 schestowitz-TR; We do have some shared interests after all!!

08:40 schestowitz-TR; (not the Saudi feminists, the ones who protect the sexists)

08:40 Techrights-sec; https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/

↺ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/

08:40 Techrights-sec; even back then it was a business

08:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.forbes.com | A Look Behind The Plague Doctor Mask

08:42 schestowitz-TR; next, the "cranks" and "COVIDiots" are people who take their health seriously

08:42 schestowitz-TR; according yo modified government narratives and leaflets

08:42 schestowitz-TR; worse yet -- they might be terroprists anmd pedos waiting to attack

08:42 schestowitz-TR; "take off their mask! Punch the nazis"

08:42 schestowitz-TR; I should form a united front with Saudi women!

08:42 schestowitz-TR; We do have some shared interests after all!!

08:42 schestowitz-TR; (not the Saudi feminists, the ones who protect the sexists)

08:42 schestowitz-TR; like I said in the video from Sunday, part of the objective is to keep people away

08:42 schestowitz-TR; we have millions of infections per month

08:43 Techrights-sec; https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/

↺ https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2021/02/28/a-look-behind-the-plague-doctor-mask/

08:43 Techrights-sec; even back then it was a business

08:43 Techrights-sec; from the link above "Canes also make handy tools for enforcing social distancing, which was actually something medieval and Renaissa

08:43 Techrights-sec; nce people had realized could slow the spread of plague."

08:53 Techrights-sec; yep


9 AM, April 19

09:11 schestowitz-TR; "There should be a mandatory course in public health in our nation's law schools." https://www.commondreams.org/n

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/n

09:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.commondreams.org/n )

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/n

09:11 schestowitz-TR; ews/2022/04/18/right-wing-judge-kills-cdc-mask-mandate-travel

09:11 schestowitz-TR; you don't want people who use PUBLIC transport to live long anyway

09:11 schestowitz-TR; if you are a RICH sociopath

09:11 schestowitz-TR; pollute

09:11 schestowitz-TR; infect

09:11 schestowitz-TR; saddle with debt

09:11 schestowitz-TR; saturate with narcotics

09:11 schestowitz-TR; make sure they reproduce like rabits

09:11 schestowitz-TR; more consumers and collaterals for debt

09:11 schestowitz-TR; "There are (IIRC) 168 hours in a week! WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK, WORK HARDER, PEASANTS!"

09:27 schestowitz-TR; funny thought that occured to me many times while walking back home

09:27 schestowitz-TR; 5-7 years ago I was thinking, as I walked

09:27 schestowitz-TR; Assange is in there posting things from an embasst

09:27 schestowitz-TR; not touching a pavement for many years

09:27 schestowitz-TR; now, assange is stuck in a cell with signal deprivation for 1000+ days

09:27 schestowitz-TR; whereas me and rianne are like him inside the embassy

09:27 schestowitz-TR; doing workouts at home

09:27 schestowitz-TR; going up and down a bit

09:27 schestowitz-TR; So one might joke that for many in soviety, esp. non-docile folks,

09:27 schestowitz-TR; prison is the next phase

09:27 Techrights-sec; ack

09:27 Techrights-sec; sensory

09:27 Techrights-sec; ack

09:28 schestowitz-TR; I have always found it ridiculous that rich people are confined to home arrests

09:28 schestowitz-TR; they have mansions!!

09:28 schestowitz-TR; Is that supposed to teach them a lesson?

09:28 schestowitz-TR; "work harder, make a bigger mansion, as one day this mansion will be your cell|"

09:41 Techrights-sec; mansions are large and often have a lot of facilities on sitge

09:54 schestowitz-TR; rianne's aunt has bad news

09:54 schestowitz-TR; her husband died

09:54 schestowitz-TR; I knew him

09:54 schestowitz-TR; he died while jogging

09:54 schestowitz-TR; someone found him dead

09:54 schestowitz-TR; next month we'll travel to here (Yorkshire)

09:54 schestowitz-TR; because she wants family to be with her

09:54 schestowitz-TR; to not be alone at home

09:54 schestowitz-TR; rianne will probably stay over a few days

09:54 schestowitz-TR; I will visit for the day and get back

09:54 Techrights-sec; thanks sad. my condolences

09:54 Techrights-sec; take extra strong filters for the train

09:57 schestowitz-TR; we are still debating the details here

09:57 schestowitz-TR; maybe rianne stays there 3 nights, then brings her here for some days

09:57 schestowitz-TR; we still have 2 spa/massage vouchers

09:57 schestowitz-TR; we've not used due to concerns (about contact)

09:57 schestowitz-TR; so I reckon they can use those


10 AM, April 19

10:03 schestowitz-TR; in Dec. 2018 I slepyt "away" (Berlin)

10:03 schestowitz-TR; Ever since then the nightly cron jobs have meant

10:03 schestowitz-TR; I cannot easily be afk overnight

10:03 schestowitz-TR; possible, but can be tricky

10:03 schestowitz-TR; the cron jobs were set up around 2019

10:03 schestowitz-TR; anyway, all this is not applicable, still up to debate, until next month

10:03 schestowitz-TR; for rianne it'll be good to spend a lot of time with family

10:03 schestowitz-TR; she is a nurse and very COVID-aware

10:03 schestowitz-TR; so I don't worry about THAT

10:03 schestowitz-TR; If there's a guest I feel safe being here, it's her

10:03 schestowitz-TR; as a side note, a friend who is a nurse killed herself recently

10:03 schestowitz-TR; and a doctor at the hospital also killed himself this year

10:03 schestowitz-TR; those don't count as COVID deaths

10:03 schestowitz-TR; the mental and financial devastation cause due to or alongside the

10:03 schestowitz-TR; pandemic do not get added to tallies

10:03 schestowitz-TR; today in irc (main channel) our young ukrainian lad is again talking

10:03 schestowitz-TR; about him being suicidal

10:03 schestowitz-TR; (an hour ago)

10:05 Techrights-sec; :/ the stress at those jobs is terrible in normal times and as the politicians

10:05 Techrights-sec; ramp it up to drive people to privatized

10:05 Techrights-sec; war is awful )thats an understatement=

10:05 Techrights-sec; hope he hangs in there most of the rest of Europe supports defense of

10:05 Techrights-sec; UA but the bureaucracy is deadly slow to act on it

10:05 Techrights-sec; tech savy is important in these times

10:07 schestowitz-TR; I am careful not to say the wrong things

10:07 schestowitz-TR; saying nothing is also unhelpful

10:07 schestowitz-TR; he is about 18

10:07 schestowitz-TR; but VERY tech-savvy and mature in this regard

10:07 schestowitz-TR; bnchs also (22)

10:34 schestowitz; Twitter is JOURNALISM DONCHU NO??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/

http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/

10:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter: Were Actually a News Site, Follow These Tweets and Twits | Techrights

10:36 schestowitz-TR; the trigger word was mentioned in IRC

10:36 schestowitz-TR; CoC and PoCoC

10:36 schestowitz-TR; which triggered a troll

10:36 schestowitz-TR; but "matey" shot the troll and the troll lost

10:36 schestowitz-TR; I will use an alarm clock from the 90s that uses fm and am radio

10:36 schestowitz-TR; it still works

10:36 schestowitz-TR; earlier this month I let it run on for a bit

10:36 schestowitz-TR; inc. into commercial breaks and "content"

10:36 schestowitz-TR; what an awful pile of shit it was

10:36 schestowitz-TR; i eneded up mentally drained

10:36 schestowitz-TR; before even waking out of bed

10:36 schestowitz-TR; Twitter is JOURNALISM DONCHU NO??? http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/

http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/ukraine-in-twitter/

10:36 schestowitz-TR; Yesterday I was thinking of the AOL flopppy=subscriber slant

10:36 schestowitz-TR; When Twitter says it has "x active users"

10:36 schestowitz-TR; what does Twitter Inc. mean??

10:36 schestowitz-TR; Active as in clicked on some twitter link in Gulag search and had twitter browser cookie?

10:36 schestowitz-TR; Logged in but just reading

10:36 schestowitz-TR; Logged in in past 365 days?

10:37 schestowitz-TR; Reading but not posting? Not even liking? You know what the Twitter CFO will favour,,,

10:37 Techrights-sec; I can't tolerate any commercial radio or television, and not just because of

10:37 Techrights-sec; the ads

10:37 Techrights-sec; yes, there is a strong parallel from what I see

10:37 Techrights-sec; it sounds like they are lying about a lot of stats

10:40 schestowitz-TR; I have repeatedly stated, and can provide some prooof/evidence, that they herd all the users

10:40 schestowitz-TR; into few accounts/tweets/topics

10:40 schestowitz-TR; they funnel in all the traffic to give a false impression of importance

10:40 schestowitz-TR; they might as well pay MSM to feed into this frenzt

10:40 schestowitz-TR; in the past the traffic was more nicely spread

10:40 schestowitz-TR; but now they herd people into few places by provoking them

10:40 schestowitz-TR; if now pushing things, even into "NOTIFICATIONS"

10:40 schestowitz-TR; thinss that have nothing to do with you

10:40 schestowitz-TR; they show me "tweets" from people I do not "follow"

10:40 schestowitz-TR; in my notifications bar

10:40 schestowitz-TR; I last saw it when I checked last week

10:40 Techrights-sec; tht would be profitable for them to do and be easy for them to do and

10:40 Techrights-sec; be low risk for them to do so it is probable that even without strong

10:40 Techrights-sec; evidence one can presume it is being done

10:46 schestowitz-TR; they might try to argue they are trying to help YOU!

10:46 schestowitz-TR; To know what's important

10:46 schestowitz-TR; the pluocrats have long sought ways to control public rage

10:46 schestowitz-TR; and tpo shift focus to and away from certain topics

10:46 schestowitz-TR; like FB rebranding as "mta"

10:46 schestowitz-TR; to break the news/noise cycle

10:46 schestowitz-TR; BTW, the "Linux" events that pocker money from these mobsters

10:46 schestowitz-TR; now they change their sites to say "meta" is a sponsor

10:46 schestowitz-TR; LF has one for meta, one for FB

10:46 schestowitz-TR; like Microsoft with the two palms, GitHub and Microsoft

10:46 schestowitz-TR; I was gona say something else ebut forgot

10:46 schestowitz-TR; though maybe it was about FB doing its "experiments" with manipulatiob of emotions

10:46 schestowitz-TR; they do not need to make it directly profitable

10:46 schestowitz-TR; they can rent or outright sell the platforms to oligarchs like Trump and Musk

10:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe they want to "take turns"

10:46 schestowitz-TR; hence resist the temptatiun to sell to just one power broker

10:46 schestowitz-TR; butr the ability to shift TO and AWQAY from topics all around the world

10:46 schestowitz-TR; in many languages

10:46 schestowitz-TR; is incredible powerful

10:46 schestowitz-TR; with media scattered across nations, languages and different owners it's very easy to

10:46 schestowitz-TR; coordinates blackouts etc.

10:46 schestowitz-TR; I have much to say about how Russian invasion was handled by social control media

10:46 schestowitz-TR; but that might get me labeled "Russian agents" or "apologist"

10:46 schestowitz-TR; media consolidation has been studied as a threat for decades

10:46 schestowitz-TR; few dare question consolidatiomn aspects

10:47 schestowitz-TR; of this new form of aggregatinon

10:47 schestowitz-TR; like one universal fake RSS reader

10:47 schestowitz-TR; where rich people and politicians constantyly stick their palms

10:58 Techrights-sec; RSS is mostly limited to blogs, as far as the useful stuff goes


11 AM, April 19

11:00 schestowitz-TR; Well, that's too bad then :-)

11:00 schestowitz-TR; So I won't be seeing much of the corporate "media"

11:00 schestowitz-TR; Like I said earlier, one area for expansion might be Planet Gemini

11:00 schestowitz-TR; I saw only one sponsored spam there so far

11:00 schestowitz-TR; As for my patent feed, good lord! I have to go through maybe 40 shits to find just one decent article

11:00 schestowitz-TR; but I found an approach of extracting value from the set

11:00 schestowitz-TR; and I lowered its priority in general

11:02 schestowitz-TR; I don't trust Planets they are good usually for only a while after they

11:02 schestowitz-TR; are first set up and then people either figure out how to game them

11:02 schestowitz-TR; or otherwise start maniupulating the output

11:02 Techrights-sec; I don't trust Planets they are good usually for only a while after they

11:02 Techrights-sec; are first set up and then people either figure out how to game them

11:02 Techrights-sec; or otherwise start maniupulating the output

11:08 Techrights-sec; 40:1 is still better than what has become the new average

11:08 Techrights-sec; FWIW it's Earth Day again on Friday, but the airlines are increasing their

11:08 Techrights-sec; flights again and on top of that were still flying empty planes to "keep" their slots at the airports.

11:11 schestowitz-TR; if not enough people "help" them by flying, then maybe our regimes

11:11 schestowitz-TR; should bail them out some more

11:11 schestowitz-TR; IOW, taking our money as taxpayers forcibly

11:11 schestowitz-TR; to feed the likes of starving Dick Bransom and his ilk

11:11 schestowitz-TR; because planes are too big to FALL

11:11 schestowitz-TR; and they help prototype bombers and jets

11:11 schestowitz-TR; we really need those

11:11 schestowitz-TR; for their very very "precise" targeting

11:11 schestowitz-TR; Boeing: we make missiles and war planes

11:11 schestowitz-TR; (we also design some made-in-china, assembled-in-Murica "civilian" products)

11:11 schestowitz-TR; we are the "JBO CREATORS", bail us out.

11:11 schestowitz-TR; Biden, increase the military budget. Ukraine something....

11:12 Techrights-sec; unfortunately most of the military budget looks like graft and other

11:12 Techrights-sec; non-producing crap, such as the large bailouts to M$

11:12 schestowitz-TR; the hoplolens BS doesn't seem like it's coming to fruition

11:13 schestowitz-TR; the "media deserts" occasionally float some puff piece about parents' homes

11:13 schestowitz-TR; who will be held accountable for this theft (graft)?

11:13 schestowitz-TR; can't criticise "the troops", they keep US/us safe...

11:14 Techrights-sec; that's what it amounts to -- theft -- and money spent there means taht

11:14 Techrights-sec; actual effective tools are not bought or used so lives are lost directly

11:14 Techrights-sec; and indirectly

11:16 schestowitz-TR; fiscally eugenicist :-)

11:16 schestowitz-TR; (the use and misuse of money to eliminate the "undesirable" -- to the fake economy -- elements)

11:18 Techrights-sec; again those with a base level of altruism, patriotism/loyalty, health,

11:18 Techrights-sec; intellect, and education are those that are entering the military service

11:18 Techrights-sec; under a defacto draft due to poverty and such; so it is those attributes

11:18 Techrights-sec; which are being eliminated from society

11:18 schestowitz-TR; if microsoft could get money from qatar for computing services in a department that doe snot have computers

11:18 schestowitz-TR; and the US regime turns a blind eye to complaints about it

11:18 schestowitz-TR; why not hand over $22,000,000,000 to Microsoft for something that will never be delivered?

11:18 schestowitz-TR; "SUPPORT THE TROOPS.... TROOPS NEED HELMETS!!!"

11:19 Techrights-sec; yep

11:19 Techrights-sec; qatarr and worse

11:19 Techrights-sec; entering the miliatary lowers their biological fitness, for the most part

11:19 Techrights-sec; there are many drawbacks with few to no benefits and even when there are

11:19 Techrights-sec; advantages they are usually offset by the disadvantages.

11:19 Techrights-sec; https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/forever-chemical-poisons-drinking-water-near-military-bases-n1101736

↺ https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/forever-chemical-poisons-drinking-water-near-military-bases-n1101736

11:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nbcnews.com | A 'forever chemical' contaminates drinking water near military bases

11:20 Techrights-sec; https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfas-forever-chemicals-groundwater-us-military-bases/

↺ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfas-forever-chemicals-groundwater-us-military-bases/

11:20 Techrights-sec; https://apnews.com/article/us-army-fort-ord-chemical-exposure-cancer-c1078dd520322f2a4130e2f7077b7892

↺ https://apnews.com/article/us-army-fort-ord-chemical-exposure-cancer-c1078dd520322f2a4130e2f7077b7892

11:20 Techrights-sec; many bases, not just one or two

11:20 Techrights-sec; and it affects the communities nearby as well

11:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cbsnews.com | Toxic "forever chemicals" found in groundwater near more U.S. military bases - CBS News

11:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-apnews.com | What Lies Beneath: Vets worry polluted base made them ill | AP News

11:20 schestowitz-TR; don't worry, there are no military bases anywhere near manhattan and beverly hills

11:22 schestowitz-TR; Rape https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/i-can-do-whatever-i-want-to-you

↺ https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/i-can-do-whatever-i-want-to-you

11:22 schestowitz-TR; reminded me of Okinawa when I first saw it

11:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-meduza.io | NO TITLE

11:22 schestowitz-TR; or the women who drank poison when the Sovets advanced towards Berlin

11:24 Techrights-sec; that last article is a longer read

11:24 Techrights-sec; unfortunately it's all throttled through facebook

11:26 schestowitz-TR; another cancer alley-like story

11:26 schestowitz-TR; I think I saw it in alternative media years before th MSM touched the matter

11:27 schestowitz-TR; first in hawaii IIRC

11:27 schestowitz-TR; pentagon is the world's biggest contributor to both pollution and climate change IIRC

11:27 schestowitz-TR; air, water etc.

11:27 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft ios again copying ICBM

11:27 schestowitz-TR; for many years ICBM made a tons of money off gov/military contracts

11:27 schestowitz-TR; Aamzon is also entering the space

11:27 schestowitz-TR; as even domestically states enagage in war and intel operations against

11:27 schestowitz-TR; their "own" population

11:28 Techrights-sec; Youre not just serving for six years, like me, and then youre out, she said. If youve been given cancer, thats a life sentence

11:28 Techrights-sec; .

11:28 Techrights-sec; most bases with heavy equipment (which is nearly all) especially planes

11:28 Techrights-sec; are toxic

11:28 Techrights-sec; carbon and chemicals

11:28 Techrights-sec; yes amazzon is a bad deal for the nation in many ways

11:28 Techrights-sec; https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/12/water-contamination-on-military-bases-isnt-new-and-thats-a-problem/

↺ https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/12/water-contamination-on-military-bases-isnt-new-and-thats-a-problem/

11:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.civilbeat.org | Water Contamination On Military Bases Isn't New. And That's A Problem - Honolulu Civil Beat

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11:29 schestowitz-TR; why was the subject suppressed by the media for so long

11:29 schestowitz-TR; and what finally broke the silence

11:29 schestowitz-TR; also, what will the outcome of this "ourage" be?

11:29 schestowitz-TR; fewer planes?

11:29 schestowitz-TR; greenwashing?

11:29 schestowitz-TR; reperations? (LOL, sorry I spat out my coffee)

11:31 Techrights-sec; o

11:31 Techrights-sec; outrage which will be express impotently as "tweets" which are so ephemeral

11:31 Techrights-sec; 'that no one will notice

11:31 Techrights-sec; '

11:35 schestowitz-TR; so Musk Social will change the trending a bit with a few button presses

11:35 schestowitz-TR; and maybe add some will smith or kardahian arse to herd people some other place

11:35 schestowitz-TR; when it comes to ourage cycles, the subject have been studied

11:35 schestowitz-TR; you can change people'e aattention span and outrage quotient or faces

11:35 schestowitz-TR; ('rage-shifting' for lack of a proper term)

11:35 schestowitz-TR; in less than 18 months

11:35 schestowitz-TR; maybe in 18 seconds

11:35 schestowitz-TR; "she said what?"

11:35 schestowitz-TR; "he slapped who?"

11:35 schestowitz-TR; "Trump tweets WHAT??"

11:35 schestowitz-TR; BTW, few people still read "long form"

11:35 schestowitz-TR; books, long articles etc.

11:35 schestowitz-TR; unless it's some action firms with breasts and explosions

11:35 schestowitz-TR; re techrights, not many topics I see for today

11:35 schestowitz-TR; but that's alright, we have a large trove of material and the important thing is keeping the site online, running, ranks

11:35 schestowitz-TR; OK for people to find info on pertinent info they look for

11:35 schestowitz-TR; rianne finished cooking and is now posting to TM

11:35 schestowitz-TR; I will follow after she's done (we try to avoid overlap for risk of "dupes")

11:53 Techrights-sec; *very* few people /can/ read long form any more

11:53 Techrights-sec; of those not all actually do

11:53 Techrights-sec; and to paraphrase an unattributed / unattributable saying,

11:53 Techrights-sec; there is no difference between those that cannot read and those that do not

11:53 Techrights-sec; read

11:53 Techrights-sec; in practice

11:55 schestowitz-TR; same with swimming and many other things

11:55 schestowitz-TR; I've not driven for a long time but can still drive OK

11:55 schestowitz-TR; driving is actually very easy with today's cars

11:55 schestowitz-TR; the human rights issues aside

11:55 schestowitz-TR; even parking became simpler because they give you prompts about cars, pavements and show you angles you could not

11:55 schestowitz-TR; get before

11:55 schestowitz-TR; \

11:55 schestowitz-TR; btw, my video about LF CoC was in front page of LXer

11:55 schestowitz-TR; those are the sorts of topics you do NOT expect to appear (or stay) in Reddit, Fucker News, and other

11:55 schestowitz-TR; corporate BS that posthumously exploits victims of themselves

11:56 Techrights-sec; :)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; news of actual vericity is again thin today

11:57 schestowitz-TR; so I think I will take it easy and focus on my maintenance tasks from TODO

11:57 schestowitz-TR; things like backups and shuffling around equipment (did lots of that yesterday again)

11:57 schestowitz-TR; I work 5:30pm onwards

11:57 schestowitz-TR; rianne barelyy found news worthy of TM this morning

11:57 schestowitz-TR; we'll widen the draft nets a bit

11:57 schestowitz-TR; *drift

11:59 schestowitz-TR; *veracity

11:59 schestowitz-TR; you can tell I'm not alarmed by IRC typos, I think people can recognise the informal value of it

11:59 schestowitz-TR; and in case of faux pas you can use the typos to reaffirm this assertion that IRC

11:59 schestowitz-TR; should be interpreted as informal


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12:49 Techrights-sec; it may be nextweek before the news recovers a bit but it seems that for many

12:49 Techrights-sec; years the news diminishes permanently after each major holida

12:51 schestowitz-TR; I think that's to do with operational cycles

12:51 schestowitz-TR; like, your contract ends at the end of the year i.e. dec 23rd

12:51 schestowitz-TR; or various other decision made effective after a break

12:51 schestowitz-TR; to me, personally, it seems like assurance that our articles

12:51 schestowitz-TR; on particular topics will be ranked higher

12:52 schestowitz-TR; esp. those which are very old and have no "competition" left

12:52 schestowitz-TR; online

12:52 schestowitz-TR; keeping sites online is not cheap

12:52 schestowitz-TR; the MBAs and marketers who run interferences do not know even the very basics

12:52 schestowitz-TR; and need to hire companies like us, under SLA, to do simple stuff like

12:52 schestowitz-TR; restart mysql or apply system updates

12:52 Techrights-sec; it may be nextweek before the news recovers a bit but it seems that for many

12:52 Techrights-sec; years the news diminishes permanently after each major holiday

12:52 Techrights-sec; perhaps it is something like that

12:52 Techrights-sec; yes but overall it would be better for more sites to cover important issues

12:52 Techrights-sec; well

12:54 schestowitz-TR; the sites which perrish (not blogs IME) are doing more harm than good, on average

12:54 schestowitz-TR; because the output is decided on by advertisers

12:54 schestowitz-TR; A lot of Mono and .NET boosting came not from blogs

12:54 schestowitz-TR; but from complicity corporate media

12:54 schestowitz-TR; hotice how zdnet too fell to less than 50% of its capacity 2 years ago

12:54 schestowitz-TR; this is what we want!!!

12:55 Techrights-sec; well

12:55 Techrights-sec; kind of. as zdnet is now, it would be better for the world if it shutdown; however the zdnet of 20 years ago was great and had prope

12:55 Techrights-sec; r FOSS coverage, like

12:55 Techrights-sec; most magazines also had back then; BYTE was one of the first shutdown IIRC

12:55 Techrights-sec; CMP killed it probably because all the editors became enthusiastic about

12:55 Techrights-sec; "Linux"

12:56 schestowitz-TR; many other CMP "properties" in its "portfolio" vanished or became inactive

12:56 schestowitz-TR; one of those "toxic asets" to put on the "bad" book or "balance sheet"

12:57 Techrights-sec; yes their goal is to shutdown anything that's not toeing the line

12:57 Techrights-sec; It's not an investment per se, though they may try to call it that in the

12:57 Techrights-sec; press release, but instead an ideological maneuver

12:57 schestowitz-TR; Elop <3 Nokia

12:57 schestowitz-TR; Icahn <3 Yahoo!

12:57 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft <3 Linux


1 PM, April 19

13:00 schestowitz-TR; I supported LF when it started

13:00 schestowitz-TR; Now I cannot wait to see it reaching its "successful bankruptcy"

13:04 Techrights-sec; yes LF seemed like a good idea at the beginning, if I understand

13:04 Techrights-sec; correctly it was to provide independent employment for Linus but rather quickly it

13:04 Techrights-sec; got infiltrated by microsofters and subverted to represent corporate interests

13:04 Techrights-sec; within the kernel rather than general promotion and advancement of the

13:04 Techrights-sec; kernel itself. No project is too small for M$ to attack and LF was not

13:05 Techrights-sec; just big but important.

13:05 schestowitz-TR; and now, in turn, LF is used to corrupt media

13:05 schestowitz-TR; FOSS Force is one of many

13:06 Techrights-sec; FOSSforce fell more recently

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4 PM, April 19

16:20 schestowitz-TR; I think we need to research tidelift and explain to people what this POS is

16:20 schestowitz-TR; seems like another OSI if not worse

16:20 schestowitz-TR; but I once heard a Red Hat founder too was involved

16:20 schestowitz-TR; I found out they'r e bankrolled by 'curious' entities

16:20 schestowitz-TR; that remind me of things we saw in the novell era

16:20 schestowitz-TR; [16:17] <techrights-news> Regarding TideLift, it's funded by 'former' Microsoft as the General Manager of General Gatalyst (Quentin C

16:20 schestowitz-TR; lark)

16:20 schestowitz-TR; [15:42] <techrights-news> Don't ask Tidelift about Stalin. It might say something about Hitler being bad and thus Stalin being good.

16:20 schestowitz-TR; Tidelift = corporate shills.

16:20 schestowitz-TR; [15:41] <techrights-news> Tidelift is a longtime Microsoft booster, in effect trying to reform the image of a company that commits cr

16:20 schestowitz-TR; imes and attacks Free software https://tidelift.com/about/lifter/microsoft_commits https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr

↺ https://tidelift.com/about/lifter/microsoft_commits

↺ https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr

16:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tidelift.com | Which open source projects has Microsoft committed to?

16:20 schestowitz-TR; osofts-surprising-open-source-track-record

16:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr )

↺ https://blog.tidelift.com/wtf-the-data-behind-micr

16:20 schestowitz-TR; [15:36] <techrights-news> tidelift is joining the Microsoft-led FUD campaign https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou

↺ https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou

16:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou )

↺ https://blog.tidelift.com/finding-1-security-is-open-sou

16:20 schestowitz-TR; rce-developers-most-urgent-challenge-while-complying-with-government-requirements-is-a-rising-concern see http://techrights.org/2022/

http://techrights.org/2022/

16:20 schestowitz-TR; 01/14/white-house-security-theatre/

16:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | 2022 | Techrights

16:20 Techrights-sec; ack

16:20 Techrights-sec; ok

16:22 schestowitz-TR; 20 years at Microsoft, now behind tidelift https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/uncategorised/quentinclark/

↺ https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/uncategorised/quentinclark/

16:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thetwentyminutevc.com | 20VC: Lessons From Working with Bill Gates, How To Lead Without Authority and The Difference Between Leadership and Management & How Fundraising Changes In A COVID World with Quentin Clark, Managing Director @ General Catalyst - 20VC

16:23 schestowitz-TR; we need to do at least one blog post on the matter

16:23 schestowitz-TR; they also have "everyone who opposes me is homophobic" Simmons

16:23 Techrights-sec; :(

16:23 Techrights-sec; shills and astroturfers abound

16:23 Techrights-sec; yep

16:23 Techrights-sec; ack

16:24 schestowitz-TR; I seem to have underestimated how awful they are

16:24 schestowitz-TR; when they were first introduced it still seemed benign

16:24 schestowitz-TR; now they are another black duck

16:24 schestowitz-TR; pretending to speak 'for' us

16:25 Techrights-sec; blackduck and snyk and other fake fronts

16:25 Techrights-sec; I have met people fooled by blackduck

16:25 Techrights-sec; most people don't know where to turn for information so they believe the

16:25 Techrights-sec; marketing lies spread by the two

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7 PM, April 19

19:34 Techrights-sec; I used to read MsGNULinux and notice that the daily links mention of

19:34 Techrights-sec; Pedro Francisco's passing. Any more details about that?

19:34 schestowitz-TR; lwn, gnu, and the project

19:35 schestowitz-TR; I put these in TM

19:35 schestowitz-TR; lwn links to the email

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19:36 Techrights-sec; Yes the LWN and the

19:36 Techrights-sec; Savannah links were about the same e-mail.

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19:46 Techrights-sec;

19:46 Techrights-sec; Perhaps there is more somewhere? The actual site he ran has been offline

19:46 Techrights-sec; for a long time.

19:47 schestowitz-TR; rianne has just mistakenly posted a dupe

19:47 schestowitz-TR; but to a different source

19:47 schestowitz-TR; and out of respect we decided to leave it

19:47 schestowitz-TR; I told her you had asked about him

19:47 schestowitz-TR; if you find more, post here or in next batch/es and I will add as a comment

19:47 schestowitz-TR; Techrights Daily Links title included his name

19:48 Techrights-sec; It has been offline since last year basically

19:48 Techrights-sec; ok

19:48 Techrights-sec; https://web.archive.org/web/*/www.masgnulinux.es

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/*/www.masgnulinux.es

19:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-web.archive.org | Wayback Machine

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