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10 AM, April 20

10:33 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft criminals are fighting against the Internet, EFF won't even name Microsoft! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/scrapin

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/scrapin

10:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Deeplinks Blog | Electronic Frontier Foundation

10:33 schestowitz-TR; g-public-websites-still-isnt-crime-court-appeals-declares

10:33 schestowitz-TR; [10:14] <techrights-news> BillBC is a lying machine with a private financial agenda. Now it leverages the LACK of data due to Easter

10:33 schestowitz-TR; to falsely claim that numbers are decreasing. Yes, well... number of tests have decreased. Lowest since 2020. We're meant to hide the

10:33 schestowitz-TR; problem?

10:33 schestowitz-TR; [10:22] <techrights-news> BillBC is turning the British public into careless COVIDiots so that rich sociopaths who don't mingle with

10:33 Techrights-sec; ack

10:33 schestowitz-TR; the 'hoi polloi' can get richer

10:33 schestowitz-TR; [09:08] <matey> <Techrights-sec> I would hope that the EFF can somehow be slavaged <- i mean, they could jump off the roof

10:47 schestowitz-TR; With About 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in Hospital (Worse in More Than a Year!) BillBC/BBC Lies to the Public Again http://schestowitz.c

↺ http://schestowitz.c

10:47 schestowitz-TR; om/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/bbc-lies/

10:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: schestowitz.c; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://schestowitz.c )

↺ http://schestowitz.c

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I am assuming, based on Daily Links that I saw (about 4 links), that it's the same in the US and elsewhere

10:47 schestowitz-TR; the policy comes from businesses like airlines and shops

10:47 schestowitz-TR; we're not factored in at all

10:47 schestowitz-TR; also known as gaslighting

10:47 schestowitz-TR; soon the new "cranks" and "idiots" will be people who -- OMG! -- still talk about this virus

10:47 schestowitz-TR; now that rich countries bought their doses, slowly, for high prices

10:47 schestowitz-TR; so there is less money left to be made

10:47 schestowitz-TR; moderna's shares have crashed

10:48 Techrights-sec; ack

10:48 Techrights-sec; ack

10:48 Techrights-sec; yes notice the analysis of the decision the "judge" made

10:48 Techrights-sec; cranks and idiots have been appointed to the bench

10:48 Techrights-sec; yes but that won't result in a decrease in price nor will it inmprove

10:48 Techrights-sec; efficacy, a new / diffefent vaccine process is needed for that

10:49 schestowitz-TR; "customer retention"

10:49 schestowitz-TR; I was a bit shocked that a judge at this level was appointed just 8 years after finishing law school

10:49 schestowitz-TR; what has society become???

10:52 Techrights-sec; a farce

10:52 Techrights-sec; M$ has lead the way by example, everyone sees that it is a farce but few to

10:52 Techrights-sec; none dare speak up rather most choose to play along because they can then

10:52 Techrights-sec; reapply those principles elsewhere in business

10:53 schestowitz-TR; ota, doing video about our energy supplier


11 AM, April 20

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11:51 schestowitz-TR; ota, doing video about our energy supplier

11:52 schestowitz-TR; Predatory and Unacceptable: e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Outsourcing the Work to the Customers While Raising the Prices Conside

11:52 schestowitz-TR; rably http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/eon-next-energy-limited-predatory-tactics/ 6 msgs included for full contextBB

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/eon-next-energy-limited-predatory-tactics/

11:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Predatory and Unacceptable: e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Outsourcing the Work to the Customers While Raising the Prices Considerably

11:52 schestowitz-TR; B

11:52 Techrights-sec; ack


noon, April 20

12:22 schestowitz-TR; btw, ot-ish:

12:22 schestowitz-TR; the github series did not end

12:22 schestowitz-TR; I'm waiting for the right opportunity or time to resume

12:22 schestowitz-TR; seeing that alex, miguel and nat left Microsoft

12:23 schestowitz-TR; (or pushed out)

12:23 schestowitz-TR; I am waiting for something else to happen

12:23 schestowitz-TR; there is an ongoing attempt to settle and scuttle SLAPP

12:23 schestowitz-TR; so that's a bit of a deadlock

12:23 schestowitz-TR; sometimes it is better to keep the 'dirty'

12:23 schestowitz-TR; things than to throw them all out in the open all at once

12:23 schestowitz-TR; I think migael and net were scared of what might come next

12:23 schestowitz-TR; posting teasers led them to issuing communications that are face-saving

12:23 schestowitz-TR; for 15+ yeras we've neutralised the mono agenda

12:23 schestowitz-TR; or weakened it

12:23 schestowitz-TR; to the point where the media and the people would rather not brag about it

12:23 schestowitz-TR; and were treated with suspicion everywhere except Microsoft

12:23 schestowitz-TR; we need to do the same to github, wsl etc.

12:23 Techrights-sec; ack

12:23 Techrights-sec; or pure spin

12:24 schestowitz-TR; few sites are still asp-based

12:24 schestowitz-TR; I think some nhs stuff still uses it

12:24 schestowitz-TR; but then again... nhs has long been a microsoft shop

12:25 Techrights-sec; yes though M$ still tries to dump toxic waste around the net in the form of

12:25 Techrights-sec; dotnet

12:25 Techrights-sec; few but too many nonetheless, though in truth even one would be too many

12:27 schestowitz-TR; there is a sort of -- for lack of better term -0- critical mass argument

12:27 schestowitz-TR; you need to lower the numbers down to the point where it's too expensive

12:27 schestowitz-TR; for microsoft to still go at it, e.g. zune, kim... maybe iis next

12:27 schestowitz-TR; if it is no longer financially viable, then it pays off and it's time to

12:27 schestowitz-TR; move to the next target

12:28 Techrights-sec; yep

12:31 schestowitz-TR; There was something else I wanted to say but forget

12:31 schestowitz-TR; and that does not matter, this is informal irc chat

12:31 schestowitz-TR; BailoutBiden won't be able to rescure them forever; I wait for the next netcraft report

12:31 schestowitz-TR; and hopefully I'll have enough free time to properly cover it

12:31 schestowitz-TR; unlike last month's

12:31 schestowitz-TR; I am working again tonight, last time

12:31 schestowitz-TR; rianne goes to town, worrying that some places have begun

12:31 schestowitz-TR; removing plastic screens at tills

12:31 schestowitz-TR; if you act normal, they hope, things will get back to normal

12:31 schestowitz-TR; I am checking the numbers evbery day and mortality reports every week

12:32 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure, they do havea cult following in government on "both" sides

12:32 Techrights-sec; and among the permanenet staff; they also have been in and out of the

12:32 Techrights-sec; whitehouse like a chea[ motel since the election which theuy weasled their

12:32 Techrights-sec; way into the campaign

12:32 schestowitz-TR; Chris Kerbs

12:32 Techrights-sec; a microsfoter

12:37 Techrights-sec; among many with open admission to the current administration's politicians

12:37 schestowitz-TR; When it comes to COVID data portals, those that are new to me can more easily mislead me

12:37 schestowitz-TR; I find that they seek transparency as long as they can slant it somehow

12:37 schestowitz-TR; comparing apples to oranges

12:37 schestowitz-TR; or adding 2700 deaths to PAST days when noone pays attention

12:37 schestowitz-TR; but the totals/tally is harder to forge

12:49 Techrights-sec; yes I think that many have disappeared and that quite a few are

12:49 Techrights-sec; adjusting their analysis to mislead at least slightly

12:49 Techrights-sec; and they are more and more hidden; some of the old ones are gone and

12:49 Techrights-sec; return only 404 errors despite being at official government sites

12:59 schestowitz-TR; i am digging very old gov docs

12:59 schestowitz-TR; and seaming them together

12:59 schestowitz-TR; atm

12:59 schestowitz-TR; eta 10 mins

12:59 schestowitz-TR; someone need to be a thorn on the side of gov. propaganda

12:59 schestowitz-TR; Comparing Nearly One Decade of UK Mortalities (Before and After COVID-19 Breakout) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/

12:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com 2022 April 20

12:59 schestowitz-TR; covid-perspective/

12:59 Techrights-sec; ack

12:59 Techrights-sec; yes too few hold their feet to the fire and basically none of the mainstream

12:59 Techrights-sec; media do their job in that regard

12:59 Techrights-sec; ack


1 PM, April 20

13:19 schestowitz-TR; anorher one coming

13:19 schestowitz-TR; Just Before the British Government Announced/Disclosed ~3,000 'Missing' (Unaccounted for) COVID-19 Casualties This Tally Stopped Bei

13:19 schestowitz-TR; ng Updated, Indicating Almost 200,000 Deaths With COVID-19 and No Sign of Slowing Down (It's Only Getting Worse) http://schestowitz.c

↺ http://schestowitz.c

13:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: schestowitz.c; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://schestowitz.c )

↺ http://schestowitz.c

13:19 schestowitz-TR; om/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/no-sign-of-covid-slowing-down/

13:20 Techrights-sec; ack

13:20 Techrights-sec; if they don't count the bodies, there is no data and therefore, in the eyes

13:20 Techrights-sec; of the press, no problem

13:22 schestowitz-TR; it is very difficult not to count all the bodies, given that each person has a name

13:22 schestowitz-TR; and deaths have a certificate, plus NHS has potential whistleblowers

13:22 schestowitz-TR; the testing numbers are very low now, lowest in years

13:22 schestowitz-TR; but deaths are deaths

13:22 schestowitz-TR; and I follow numbers that are possible to hide only TEMPORARILY

13:23 schestowitz-TR; maybe for spin's sake

13:23 schestowitz-TR; hence, there needs to be devil('s advocate)

13:23 schestowitz-TR; it's clear what the current objective is

13:23 schestowitz-TR; and how that overlooks many other issues

13:23 schestowitz-TR; covid aside

13:30 Techrights-sec; yes


2 PM, April 20

14:40 Techrights-sec; back (briefly)

14:40 Techrights-sec; one of the recent links in the daily links had good analysis and historical

14:40 Techrights-sec; overview of IBM, and other companies', involvement in the wrong side of WWII

14:40 Techrights-sec; can't find it though,

14:40 Techrights-sec; her's another

14:40 Techrights-sec; https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/

↺ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/04/hitlers-willing-business-partners/303146/

14:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theatlantic.com | Hitler's Willing Business Partners - The Atlantic

14:43 schestowitz-TR; it is very difficult not to count all the bodies, given that each person has a name

14:43 schestowitz-TR; and deaths have a certificate, plus NHS has potential whistleblowers

14:43 schestowitz-TR; the testing numbers are very low now, lowest in years

14:43 schestowitz-TR; but deaths are deaths

14:43 schestowitz-TR; and I follow numbers that are possible to hide only TEMPORARILY

14:43 schestowitz-TR; maybe for spin's sake

14:43 schestowitz-TR; hence, there needs to be devil('s advocate)

14:43 schestowitz-TR; it's clear what the current objective is

14:44 schestowitz-TR; and how that overlooks many oth[08:04] <techrights-news> Opinion | They Are the Heirs of Nazi Fortunes, and They Arent Apologizing - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/19/opinion/bmw-porsche-nazi-germany-quandt-flick.html Source: nytimeser issues

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/19/opinion/bmw-porsche-nazi-germany-quandt-flick.html

14:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | They Are the Heirs of Nazi Fortunes, and They Arent Apologizing - The New York Times

14:44 schestowitz-TR; covid aside

14:48 Techrights-sec; yes, thats the one

14:48 Techrights-sec; https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ibm-and-quot-death-s-calculator-quot-2

↺ https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ibm-and-quot-death-s-calculator-quot-2

14:48 Techrights-sec; (old)

14:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org | IBM & "Death's Calculator"

14:50 schestowitz-TR; maybe they should make a movie or book

14:50 schestowitz-TR; The IBMer Next Door (Operation Paperclip references, a real book)

14:50 schestowitz-TR; a

14:50 schestowitz-TR; a love story about Red Hat staff that become patriotic for IBM

14:50 schestowitz-TR; and decided to pursue patents on systemd and spread it to the whole of EUrope

14:50 schestowitz-TR; became it got bombed to shits

14:50 Techrights-sec; I doubt M$ will stop selling to Russia and is even more unlikely to

14:50 Techrights-sec; stop providing "updates" there as well. The Pentagon would lose a lot of

14:50 Techrights-sec; backdoor capabilities if either were to stop.

14:51 schestowitz-TR; where the media deserts or media deserters covering these issue? nowhere

14:51 schestowitz-TR; and the security coverage is focus on anything but Windows

14:51 schestowitz-TR; Even CIA won't name it

14:51 schestowitz-TR; you need to read between the lines

14:52 schestowitz-TR; *CISA

14:55 Techrights-sec; yep distracting, and acting, if only theatrics, against *everything* except

14:55 Techrights-sec; the faulty product line.

14:55 Techrights-sec; CISA is a frequent host for microsofters as visitors

14:55 Techrights-sec; they're now both ignorant and corrupt, who knows how long they've been that

14:55 Techrights-sec; way, but they're sure that way now if consulting M$ for advice on *anything*

14:57 schestowitz-TR; months ago digivegan wrote that proprietary s/s was inherently not secuee

14:57 schestowitz-TR; he explained why

14:57 schestowitz-TR; and he teacxhes cybersecurity

14:57 schestowitz-TR; rms responded by saying that's untrue

14:57 schestowitz-TR; and that writes secure programs is hard

14:57 schestowitz-TR; digivegan responded by amending the text a bit

14:57 schestowitz-TR; but rms was using thr straw man there

14:57 schestowitz-TR; as proprietary software is often written to not be secure

14:57 schestowitz-TR; and we know this thanks to snowden

14:57 schestowitz-TR; well, wait, we know this based on things predating snowden, but we can more

14:57 schestowitz-TR; easily prove that using material disclosed by snowden

14:59 Techrights-sec; appeasement does not become RMS

14:59 Techrights-sec; yes though snowden has become a lone voice repeating that message and now

14:59 Techrights-sec; the world situation requires that he keep a very low profile

14:59 Techrights-sec; RMS is probably too set in his ways to pick up on that message even where

14:59 Techrights-sec; it overlaps strongy with software Freedom.


3 PM, April 20

15:00 schestowitz-TR; I think he worries about fakes like tidelift hitting back with a bunch of logos

15:00 schestowitz-TR; buzzworda and fake 'studies' of selective 'stats' on how "Open Source"

15:00 schestowitz-TR; has a "supply chain" problem and Microsoft et al even met in the White House

15:00 schestowitz-TR; to speak 'for us' about this

15:00 Techrights-sec; M$ "research" is just a marketing arm where they throw a pittance in the

15:00 Techrights-sec; direction of some starving researcher in exchange for silence

15:01 schestowitz-TR; now we have "Linux Foundation Research"

15:01 schestowitz-TR; They are a phantom Microsoft et al

15:01 schestowitz-TR; in "Linux" clothing

15:01 schestowitz-TR; which is even more powerful because they can pretend to be one's opposition

15:01 schestowitz-TR; or "controlled opposiitoon

15:01 Techrights-sec; M$ "research" is just a marketing arm where they throw a pittance in the

15:01 Techrights-sec; direction of some starving researcher in exchange for silence on software

15:01 Techrights-sec; Freedom and maybe a mention or use of M$ trash in place of real tools

15:01 Techrights-sec; LF is a front for M$ more or less

15:01 Techrights-sec; s/is/has become/

15:02 schestowitz-TR; [14:36] <techrights-news> OSI has just changed its Web site

15:02 schestowitz-TR; [14:38] <techrights-news> OSI now calls its blog "Voices of Open Source". But some of these voices are MICROSOFT employees pushing PR

15:02 schestowitz-TR; OPRIETARY GitHub!! Appalling.

15:10 Techrights-sec; there is a push to reframe OSS as originating and provided by M$

15:10 Techrights-sec; it's more of the same in regards to pretending that closed source is open

15:10 Techrights-sec; source because it is distributed free of charge, more muddying the water and

15:10 Techrights-sec; confusing newbies and non-technical people

15:10 Techrights-sec; look at the lies and misdirection they circulate around VSC

15:41 schestowitz-TR; Social control media = waste of time. "Ever think about how most of the debates we have on social media seem to fade in and die out a

15:41 schestowitz-TR; fter a day or so?" https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/

↺ https://tedium.co/2022/04/20/great-stirrup-controversy-history/

15:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tedium.co | The Great Stirrup Controversy: Lynn White, Jr.s Spicy Medieval Take

15:41 Techrights-sec; yep

15:41 Techrights-sec; a day at the most, thus the epithet "twacktivism"

15:43 schestowitz-TR; "It is insane to me that cryptocurrencies are still a thing." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/clever-cryptocurrency-theft.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/clever-cryptocurrency-theft.html

15:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Clever Cryptocurrency Theft - Schneier on Security

15:44 schestowitz-TR; dnd

15:44 schestowitz-TR; or pogz

15:44 schestowitz-TR; monopoly money

15:44 schestowitz-TR; fantasy

15:44 schestowitz-TR; self-delusion

15:44 schestowitz-TR; waste

15:44 schestowitz-TR; mostly the last

15:44 schestowitz-TR; "I have nothing useful to do, I cannot program, so I will just let this thing run and pretent

15:44 schestowitz-TR; pretend I have a little wall street in a box"

15:47 Techrights-sec; yes the experiement with cryptocurrencies more or less ended in 2009

15:47 Techrights-sec; but then some techbros lifted some of that out of the trash can and

15:47 Techrights-sec; ran with it

15:47 Techrights-sec; ^that = the discarded, completed experiment

15:49 Techrights-sec; some even started as jokes but then idiots started throwing real money

15:49 Techrights-sec; that direction and it got out of control at that point

15:52 schestowitz-TR; the 'luneex gamer' bryant did a video propping that up

15:52 schestowitz-TR; like buying a home with 'crypto'

15:52 schestowitz-TR; but that was around the time he joked about selling to disney

15:52 schestowitz-TR; while not joking about selling space to valve which needed influencer

15:52 schestowitz-TR; [sic] because without them "deck" become dreck, forgotten and ignores

15:52 schestowitz-TR; shortly after launch press release

15:52 schestowitz-TR; jason evangelu vanished the moment I called him out on it

15:52 schestowitz-TR; youtube is full of scams

15:52 schestowitz-TR; gold

15:52 schestowitz-TR; "crypto"

15:52 schestowitz-TR; supplements of all sorts

15:52 schestowitz-TR; among others (I could name a dozen)

15:53 schestowitz-TR; gulag did not mind for a long time

15:53 schestowitz-TR; I think it's trying to tackle this now

15:53 schestowitz-TR; while leaving in tact worse things if it's politically beneficial to gulag

15:53 Techrights-sec; yes he also stopped mentioning anthing FOSS AFAIK

15:53 Techrights-sec; good

15:53 Techrights-sec; LBRY is even worse though for similar but not quite the same reasons

15:54 schestowitz-TR; i went to odysee front page once

15:54 schestowitz-TR; logged out, no cookie, nothing

15:54 schestowitz-TR; I got lols seeing them recommending a video where alady sells farts inside jars

15:54 schestowitz-TR; I did not click, but that resonated with me

15:54 schestowitz-TR; odysee - the fart-selling site

15:55 Techrights-sec; Odysee only is even remotely worth the time if one makes an accoutn

15:55 Techrights-sec; and then spends a *long* time blocking dozens if not hundreds of accounts

15:55 Techrights-sec; there after it becomes palatable (almost) as long as you don't look at

15:55 Techrights-sec; the "recommendations", but that is similar to Google's YouTube

15:56 schestowitz-TR; speaking of which, about a decade ago I "followed" the mostg popular gulagtuber

15:56 schestowitz-TR; (at the time; number of subs, IIRC)

15:56 schestowitz-TR; and he dia a video about how there was this channel in gulagtube that was just

15:56 schestowitz-TR; basically a gallery of fart

15:56 schestowitz-TR; someone uploading many videos of oneself farting into a phone camera (IIRC)

15:57 schestowitz-TR; and that channel became very popular

15:57 schestowitz-TR; welcome to the Internet

15:57 schestowitz-TR; TheInternetIsForFartFetish


4 PM, April 20

16:02 Techrights-sec; :/

16:02 Techrights-sec; although rule 34 almost certainly applies, much of that was probably

16:02 Techrights-sec; youngsters exhibiting very sophmoric humor

16:04 Techrights-sec; ack

16:04 schestowitz-TR; it was more popular than spamnil

16:04 schestowitz-TR; smae category


5 PM, April 20

17:27 schestowitz-TR; Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/after-easter/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/20/after-easter/

17:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospitals Highest in a Week, Over 500 More Deaths Added Today (But Tests Down to Lowest Level Since 2020!)

17:28 Techrights-sec; There may be a wave after Easter especially if it is combined with 1 May

17:46 schestowitz-TR; i have just started my shift

17:46 schestowitz-TR; i am looking at the covvid portal

17:46 schestowitz-TR; mentioned earlier

17:46 schestowitz-TR; to see if I can make sense of it

17:46 schestowitz-TR; knowing that politicians have chosen "capitalism" over people

17:46 schestowitz-TR; "we did the best we could, now go back to your cage" (which is not healthy for psychological reasons, as well)

17:46 schestowitz-TR; the corona map page gives me a blank page

17:46 schestowitz-TR; even with JS on, under Falkon

17:46 schestowitz-TR; some nice shiny "stuff" and webdevop you got there...

17:46 schestowitz-TR; arccgiv.com

17:46 schestowitz-TR; the numbders of deaths run OK until week 10 or 11 of this year

17:46 schestowitz-TR; this is common as they have a 'backlog'

17:46 schestowitz-TR; so one needs to set a threshold at least a month back

17:46 schestowitz-TR; like in here

17:46 schestowitz-TR; almost 200 deaths per week for a population more than an order of magnitude smaller than ours

17:46 schestowitz-TR; same period 12 months earlier (pre-vaccine) was about 20 deaths per week with many more tests

17:46 schestowitz-TR; being conducted

17:46 schestowitz-TR; a critical or lateral thinker (or sceptical thinking) would say such numbers debunk efficacy arguments from the

17:46 schestowitz-TR; big supplier of patents on some juices that make one ill

17:48 Techrights-sec; ack

17:48 Techrights-sec; There may be a wave after Easter especially if it is combined with 1 May

17:48 Techrights-sec; "web" "developers" both in scare quotes

17:48 schestowitz-TR; I never said web developer, I said webdevops

17:48 schestowitz-TR; they are to development and the world wide web what "apps" are to applications

17:49 Techrights-sec; they are so caught up in their own bullshit that they don't / won't see that

17:49 Techrights-sec; the crap they are producing does not work;

17:49 Techrights-sec; even the paradigm is faulty. instead of using a stateless client-server

17:49 Techrights-sec; arcitecture to serve complete documents, as HTTP is designed to do, theu

17:49 Techrights-sec; have make a horrendous kludge where they are attempting to use the web

17:49 Techrights-sec; browser as a highly inefficient virtual machine to run aribtrary,

17:50 schestowitz-TR; here, with the uk data portal, they send you bloated js and then send data to it. Then, the same things are redrawn over and over again by all visitors.

17:50 Techrights-sec; unauthenticated programs of unknown provenance and capabilities on your machine

17:51 Techrights-sec; maybe they do see that the crap they produce doesn't work but that they

17:51 Techrights-sec; leverage that to sell more of their labor: if a little doesn't work, more

17:51 Techrights-sec; is needed

17:52 schestowitz-TR; wait, are we talkinmg about the web kludge or about more and more doses?

17:52 schestowitz-TR; remember studies were conducted about 5 months ago and showed a 4th jab is placebo at best

17:52 Techrights-sec; yes it is profoundly wasteful compared to server-side processing for

17:52 Techrights-sec; the same images which will be requested a great many times

17:52 Techrights-sec; on a global scale it probably contributes to carbon emissions in a not

17:52 Techrights-sec; insignificant amount

17:55 schestowitz-TR; far worse than it may seem at first

17:55 schestowitz-TR; 1) need a more powerful PC

17:55 schestowitz-TR; need a "modern" browser (throw away "old" machine)

17:55 schestowitz-TR; 2) energy/battery usage/manufacturing

17:55 schestowitz-TR; 3) routing energy (not a good way of passing such data, can be produced 'off-line'

17:55 schestowitz-TR; I forgot accessibility aspects, but this one is tricky

17:56 schestowitz-TR; I don't know how blind people read charts and which type of charts

17:56 Techrights-sec; and a lot of bandwidth...

17:56 Techrights-sec; which is of itself a contribution to carbon emissions

17:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/29/streamings-dirty-secret-how-viewing-netflix-top-10-creates-vast-quantity-of-co2g

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/29/streamings-dirty-secret-how-viewing-netflix-top-10-creates-vast-quantity-of-co2g

17:56 Techrights-sec; grauniad :/

17:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/29/streamings-dirty-secret-how-viewing-netflix-top-10-creates-vast-quantity-of-co2g )

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/29/streamings-dirty-secret-how-viewing-netflix-top-10-creates-vast-quantity-of-co2g

17:56 Techrights-sec; yes though they contest the accessiblity while impeding it

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18:08 schestowitz-TR; back to the data, the 1:2 or 1:3 ratio in case:test this year suggests they got all stingy about testing

18:08 schestowitz-TR; there are a lot more people testing positive

18:08 schestowitz-TR; and barely an effort to catch silent or mild cases

18:08 schestowitz-TR; which of course is a self-feeding loop

18:08 schestowitz-TR; test less, it'll spread faster

18:08 schestowitz-TR; and in turn you will need to test MOAR

18:08 schestowitz-TR; just to catch up with the surge

18:08 schestowitz-TR; what a stupid policy

18:08 schestowitz-TR; is is basically a case of,

18:08 schestowitz-TR; if you feel very unwell

18:08 schestowitz-TR; and if you think you got "the" virus

18:09 schestowitz-TR; come on over, we'll check you

18:09 schestowitz-TR; last year the footballer needed to test themselves regardless between games

18:09 schestowitz-TR; to avoid the circulation of the virus through family and colleagues

18:09 schestowitz-TR; testing to see, "YES! it IS coronavirus!" is sort of pointless

18:09 schestowitz-TR; "yes, sherlock, that's why I came here"

18:09 schestowitz-TR; like the cardiologist who says, "it's good you came, yes, I can see this issue in your heart"

18:09 schestowitz-TR; instead of people taking pulse, blood pressure etc.

18:09 schestowitz-TR; so my guess here and elsewhere the "new normal" means "small government"

18:09 schestowitz-TR; in the name of 'freedom' and 'the economy' they will embrace a new "normal" death rates

18:09 schestowitz-TR; and hospitals will find that wintertime workdloads are the "normal" all year around

18:09 schestowitz-TR; this sucks, but makes me complacent about 'rebelling' against the status quo

18:09 schestowitz-TR; mostly by inaction, a lack of participation in "the economy"

18:09 schestowitz-TR; if more people do the same, we might even get somewhere

18:09 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall which article it was, but earlier this week there was a passage that said,

18:09 schestowitz-TR; according to the NY Times, the patent system has been corrupted

18:09 Techrights-sec; ack

18:11 schestowitz-TR; I have not left Manchester since Jan 20200

18:11 schestowitz-TR; and Rianne convinced me not to travel with her to the aunt

18:11 schestowitz-TR; because she can travel on her own (I suggedted train, more chance of empty space than in a coach)

18:11 schestowitz-TR; the aunt will come here days afterwards

18:11 schestowitz-TR; I akways found long-distance travel wasteful, useful, hardly even enjoyabnle

18:11 schestowitz-TR; buit a cultural thing

18:12 schestowitz-TR; like sipping "jesus blood" at the church

18:14 Techrights-sec; ack

18:14 Techrights-sec; be sure Rianne and the aunt have n95 or better masks when travelling

18:14 Techrights-sec; depends on whether the church considers it metaphorical or pushes

18:14 Techrights-sec; transubstantiation

18:14 Techrights-sec; but for most, either way, it is simply a cultural habit

18:14 Techrights-sec; a problem with travel is that there is financial incentive for some clusters

18:14 Techrights-sec; of businesses to promote unnecessary travel and in the general business

18:14 Techrights-sec; community there is a dick measuring contest related to the wastefulness o

18:14 Techrights-sec; of the travel

18:14 schestowitz-TR; away from home -> no place to sleep -> need to pay for a second bed (the one at home unsused)

18:14 schestowitz-TR; similarly, divorces help sell or occupy more homes

18:14 schestowitz-TR; so bad (for family, environment etc) thinks get promoted by external and hostile forces

18:15 Techrights-sec; i guess this goes back to the discussion of forced debt so that time

18:15 Techrights-sec; and other finite resources are spent on school, crappy cars, and travel

18:15 Techrights-sec; holidays instead of building communities and/or families

18:18 schestowitz-TR; what makes others weak can give you power over them

18:18 schestowitz-TR; not limited to loans (mort - gage!)

18:18 schestowitz-TR; but also level of education, feed them bible, BS news, incite etc.

18:18 schestowitz-TR; the idea is, you get less competition when people scroll up and down crap and press

18:18 schestowitz-TR; "like"

18:18 schestowitz-TR; they can never develop mentally and won't pursue a real change

18:18 schestowitz-TR; so when I see people becoming "gamers" or sitting on the toilet doing "work"

18:18 schestowitz-TR; on the phone, I'm sort of OK with it...

18:18 schestowitz-TR; "waste your life away, I'll get reall stuff done in the meantime..."

18:19 Techrights-sec; It seems that the goal of that and other things it to keep them individually

18:19 Techrights-sec; and collectively in a constant state of crises so they are merely reacting

18:19 Techrights-sec; viscerally and not able to plan ahead

18:20 schestowitz-TR; debt means anxiety

18:20 schestowitz-TR; kids mean debt mean anxiety

18:20 schestowitz-TR; social rat race means wanting to travel FAR, buy EXPENSIVE car, have MANY kids

18:20 schestowitz-TR; but never mind planning ahead, you are busy trying to survive

18:21 Techrights-sec; I guess it's related to the details layed out in "The Shock Doctrine"

18:21 Techrights-sec; debt is, unfortunately, now the main currency used globally not actual currency

18:23 schestowitz-TR; yes, commondreams and counterpunch had some articles about this recently

18:23 schestowitz-TR; alex graveley lived with his dad

18:23 schestowitz-TR; using a mac and telling endless lies about how he was a big shot millionaire worth 200 million

18:23 schestowitz-TR; and "semi retired"

18:23 schestowitz-TR; of course his wealth was fakecoins

18:23 schestowitz-TR; and he could barely afford a car

18:23 schestowitz-TR; lived in his g/f apartmentsa

18:23 schestowitz-TR; and then back to dad

18:23 schestowitz-TR; in his 40s

18:23 schestowitz-TR; but those are too ad hom for me to write about at this time

18:23 schestowitz-TR; it would not in any way help the series

18:25 Techrights-sec; yes

18:25 schestowitz-TR; andrew lee is "debt-rich" ("king of debt" - Lee)

18:25 schestowitz-TR; alex jones has a debt empire (at one point, he went too far)

18:25 schestowitz-TR; a lot of so-called 'news' sites were 'rich' in VC money

18:25 schestowitz-TR; our company is rich... in promises and bullshit :-)

18:26 Techrights-sec; them too

18:26 Techrights-sec; the debt allows them to pretend but keeps them on a short leash nonetheless

18:26 Techrights-sec; . and posturing

18:27 schestowitz-TR; posturing is contagious

18:27 schestowitz-TR; they probably implicitly teach that in "business" "schools"

18:28 Techrights-sec; tacitly not necessarily on the syllabus

18:28 schestowitz-TR; it can be extracurricular

18:28 schestowitz-TR; you learn from classmates

18:28 schestowitz-TR; who exaggerate all sorts of things

18:31 schestowitz-TR; the practical equivalent or renting a sport car for a night to get sex from a lady

18:31 schestowitz-TR; whose "designer" stuff might be borrowed from a friend or is the sole "asset", purchased

18:31 schestowitz-TR; with "credit" (debt) cards

18:31 schestowitz-TR; of course these relationship blow up very fast and the ones getting the last laugh are

18:31 schestowitz-TR; merchants of "lifestyle" "goods"

18:31 schestowitz-TR; of course they also date in some very expensive restaurant and pretent coffee must cost north of 5 dollars

18:32 Techrights-sec; 5 would be relatively cheap these days unfortunately

18:33 schestowitz-TR; the 227 grams I bought is about 30-40 spoonfull

18:33 schestowitz-TR; I make about two teapots (~800ml) with each spoon

18:33 schestowitz-TR; to keep it diluted and now be high on cafeeine

18:33 schestowitz-TR; water and electricity cost more than the rest!

18:33 schestowitz-TR; *not be

18:34 Techrights-sec; ack

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23:52 schestowitz-TR; the black man meme I put in my PF post about CoC became an empty file

23:52 schestowitz-TR; *LF post

23:52 schestowitz-TR; I investigated

23:52 schestowitz-TR; the timestemp is the same as when I uploaded it

23:52 schestowitz-TR; Google seems to have cache of the image

23:52 schestowitz-TR; it was in the front page of Lxer

23:52 schestowitz-TR; I checked that no other file in its vicinity was 0 bytes in size

23:52 schestowitz-TR; that image being made an empty file, with timestamp unchanged

23:52 schestowitz-TR; is a tad suspicious to me

23:52 schestowitz-TR; I reuploaded the image from the driver

23:52 schestowitz-TR; *drive

23:52 schestowitz-TR; I do not wish to make false speculations or make something that may sound like

23:52 schestowitz-TR; an accusation about someone financially connected to LF vandalisng that file

23:52 schestowitz-TR; this is the first time I see such a thing

23:52 schestowitz-TR; so at first I wondered if there was a technical issue and maybe a glitch at system level

23:52 schestowitz-TR; I am pretty certain the file was OK when I first published it and I did not override it


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