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00:00 starstreak; <schestowitz[TR]> my previous main machine had 2gb of ram, so openbox was a good fit <- how long ago was that?
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00:08 schestowitz[TR]; during pandemic
00:09 TR News; Sean Michael Kerner used to cover "linux" before all this "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" "hey hi" https://venturebeat.com/ai/how-google-is-accelerating-ml-development/
00:09 TR Bot; Google is accelerating ML development | VentureBeat
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00:10 TR News; GreenWithEnvy Desperately Needs New Maintainers - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bnhpH7KI_MA | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/bnhpH7KI_MA
00:10 TR Bot; GreenWithEnvy Desperately Needs New Maintainers - Invidious
00:12 TR News; Those mainframes are very heavily patented by IBM and they are proprietary (IBM even goes litigious over it). This is an openwashing PR stunt for 'Linux' Foundation. https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/702
00:12 TR Bot; Open Source and Mainframes
00:14 TR News; "An attacker can exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/11/adobe-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
00:14 TR Bot; Adobe Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
00:17 TR News; containerjournal has rapidly become more like a webspam site, akin to spamnil. They try to make money from PR spam.
00:17 TR News; (NEW): (In)Security: Microsoft Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD), NSA, and Adobe http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/_In_Security_Microsoft_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_FUD_NSA_and_Adobe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/_In_Security_Microsoft_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_FUD_NSA_and_Adobe.gmi
00:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines (In)Security: Microsoft Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD), NSA, and Adobe
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR News; (NEW): Videos: GreenWithEnvy, Amarok Linux, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Videos_GreenWithEnvy_Amarok_Linux_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Videos_GreenWithEnvy_Amarok_Linux_and_More.gmi
00:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: GreenWithEnvy, Amarok Linux, and More
00:22 TR News; (NEW): Content Management Systems (CMS): Builder.io, Audio, and WordPress 'Tips' http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Content_Management_Systems_CMS_Builder_io_Audio_and_WordPress_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Content_Management_Systems_CMS_Builder_io_Audio_and_WordPress_T.gmi
00:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Content Management Systems (CMS): Builder.io, Audio, and WordPress 'Tips'
00:23 TR News; The updated Steam Mobile App is now available https://bioslevel.com/news/2022/the-updated-steam-mobile-app-is-now-available
00:23 TR Bot; The updated Steam Mobile App is now available
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00:25 TR News; (NEW): Games (DRM), 'Apps', and Sports http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Games_DRM_Apps_and_Sports.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Games_DRM_Apps_and_Sports.gmi
00:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games (DRM), 'Apps', and Sports
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00:30 TR News; Terrible idea; it is a password stealer https://pimylifeup.com/ubuntu-microsoft-edge/ see
00:30 TR Bot; How to Install Microsoft Edge on Ubuntu - Pi My Life Up
00:30 TR News; Terrible idea; it is a password stealer https://pimylifeup.com/ubuntu-microsoft-edge/ see http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/
00:30 TR Bot; Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | Techrights
00:32 TR News; Andrew's Searchfox Vision 2022 | visophyte: shiny? shiny. https://www.visophyte.org/blog/2022/10/05/andrews-searchfox-vision-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.visophyte.org/blog/2022/10/05/andrews-searchfox-vision-2022/
00:32 TR Bot; Andrews Searchfox Vision 2022 | visophyte: shiny? shiny.
00:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
00:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
00:37 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Arduino and Actinius http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_Actinius.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_Actinius.gmi
00:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Arduino and Actinius
00:38 TR News; PANDEMIC IS OVER! NOT! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/12/covid-19-pandemic-not-over-more-cases-this-past-summer-than-last-year-in-spite-of-fewer-tests/
00:38 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Pandemic Not Over (More Cases This Past Summer Than Last Year In Spite of Fewer Tests)
00:38 TR News; Storytelling by Jim Zemlin (11:30-12:55 above; roughly 10% of his keynote!) promotes a Microsoft myth at the latest Linux Foundation event. As a side note, even a year later Jim Zemlin still spreads the log4j FUD for Microsoft and friends. http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/
00:38 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights
00:44 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
00:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
00:44 TR News; (NEW): Andrew's Searchfox Vision 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Andrew_s_Searchfox_Vision_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Andrew_s_Searchfox_Vision_2022.gmi
00:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Andrew's Searchfox Vision 2022
00:48 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat's Latest Corporate Puff Pieces http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Red_hat_s_Latest_Corporate_Puff_Pieces.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/Red_hat_s_Latest_Corporate_Puff_Pieces.gmi
00:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat's Latest Corporate Puff Pieces
00:50 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
00:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
00:50 TR News; Links 12/10/2022: GNU Health is Fourteen, Mesa 22.2.1, and GStreamer 1.20.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/gstreamer-1-20-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/12/gstreamer-1-20-4/
00:50 TR Bot; Links 12/10/2022: GNU Health is Fourteen, Mesa 22.2.1, and GStreamer 1.20.4 | Techrights
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01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-121022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-121022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-121022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-121022.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-121022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-121022.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-121022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-121022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-121022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-121022.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-121022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-121022.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022
02:43 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-12.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-12.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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03:14 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/13/ai_recruitment_software_diversity/
03:14 TR Bot; AI recruitment software is 'automated pseudoscience' The Register
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:37 DaemonFC; "Dignity and an empty sack is worth the empty sack." -Rule of Acquisition #109
03:37 DaemonFC; I think that's my favorite so far.
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04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:24 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/10/12/1128207464/ppp-loans-loan-forgiveness-small-business
04:24 TR Bot; Most PPP loans have been forgiven, despite signs of possible fraud : NPR
04:24 DaemonFC; "One fintech, called Kabbage, is facing a class-action lawsuit over claims it failed to process loan forgiveness applications quickly and properly. Last week, Kabbage filed for bankruptcy."
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04:27 DaemonFC; https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/warner-bros-tv-group-cuts-82-staffers-in-latest-round-of-wbd-layoffs-1235239268/
04:27 TR Bot; Warner Bros. TV Group Lays Off 82 Staffers The Hollywood Reporter
04:27 DaemonFC; https://www.brex.com/journal/message-from-pedro
04:27 TR Bot; message from Pedro | Brex
04:27 DaemonFC; 136 layoffs
04:27 DaemonFC; https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/inno/stories/news/2022/10/11/rev-com-to-cut-85-jobs-after-lender-troubles.html
04:27 TR Bot; NO TITLE
04:28 DaemonFC; 85
04:28 DaemonFC; https://aimgroup.com/2022/10/12/shared-home-marketplace-pacaso-cuts-30-of-staff/
04:28 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://aimgroup.com/2022/10/12/shared-home-marketplace-pacaso-cuts-30-of-staff/ )
04:28 DaemonFC; Shared-home marketplace Pacaso cuts 30% of staff -
04:28 DaemonFC; 87
04:28 DaemonFC; https://layoffstracker.com/oracle-lays-off-200-employees/
04:28 TR Bot; Lays off 200 Employees - LayoffsTracker
04:29 DaemonFC; https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/11/noom-tech-layoffs-diet-app/
04:29 TR Bot; lays off more employees amid CFO departure TechCrunch
04:29 DaemonFC; "Noom has laid off 10% of its staff, or around 500 people."
04:30 DaemonFC; Genesys San Francisco - Marketing - Unspecified number of layoffs
04:30 DaemonFC; Extrahop Seattle - Security - 75 layoffs
04:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Say buh bye to mjg59_ here soon. All this tech worker layoff bloodbath and someone will need him?
04:31 DaemonFC; :)
04:32 DaemonFC; More than 1,000 more tech workers were laid off today in a coordinated series of announcements in the US, centered on San Francisco, Seattle, New York City, and Austin.
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04:34 DaemonFC; If you go worldwide, then there were over 4,100 tech layoffs announced today in the news.
04:34 DaemonFC; But fully a quarter in the US.
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05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:03 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/northwest-indiana/indiana-supreme-court-prevents-enforcement-of-abortion-ban-will-hear-arguments-in-january/
06:03 TR Bot; Indiana Supreme Court to take up abortion law
06:03 starstreak; https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/alex-jones-verdict-1.6614275
06:03 TR Bot; Alex Jones ordered to pay $965M US for false claims about Sandy Hook massacre | CBC News
06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; so what is it
06:05 highest_cubist_thrills; will he have custody of his prisoner/kid? will he have to pay his ex wife? is he going to do time?
06:05 highest_cubist_thrills; /me does not think very highly of jones as a family man
06:06 highest_cubist_thrills; granted theres always the possibility he was framed by an overzealous divorce lawyer, but it doesnt look that way
06:08 starstreak; this is about the defamation trial
06:08 starstreak; sandy hook
06:09 highest_cubist_thrills; ah
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; alex jones is basically peter griffin, but in real life
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07:05 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.nytimes.com%252F2022%252F10%252F13%252Fworld%252Feurope%252Fgermany-coal-energy-climate.html
07:05 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
07:05 DaemonFC; We have lots of coal in Southern Illinois.
07:05 DaemonFC; The Democrats are shutting down our coal plants, but allowing the coal reserves to be mined and sold to Japan and Europe (mostly).
07:06 DaemonFC; So they put it on a ship that runs on diesel fuel and burn the coal in another country.
07:06 DaemonFC; Problem solved! - Party of mjg59_
07:06 DaemonFC; It definitely won't emit CO2 in a GERMAN coal plant.
07:06 DaemonFC; :)
07:08 starstreak; DaemonFC, are you Alex Jones?
07:16 DaemonFC; No.
07:17 DaemonFC; https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-initiates-phase-3-study-mrna-based-influenza-vaccine
07:17 TR Bot; Initiates Phase 3 Study of mRNA-Based Influenza Vaccine | Pfizer
07:17 DaemonFC; I'll probably use the mrna flu shots if they're FDA approved.
07:17 DaemonFC; The one they make now isn't so effective. It's just what there is.
07:18 DaemonFC; "The impact of flu on racial and ethnic minority groups in the U.S. is even larger. Black Americans are 1.8 times more likely than their white counterparts to be hospitalized for flu while Latino and Indigenous Americans are 1.2 and 1.3 times more likely, respectively." -Pfizer
07:19 DaemonFC; Well, the CDC says that about 57% of non-Hispanic White Americans got their flu shots last year and only about 50% of Black Americans did.
07:19 DaemonFC; So part of it is just not taking the flu vaccines.
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 DaemonFC; Since the flu shot is mainly good for keeping you out of the hospital, most of the impact of refusing the vaccine will be higher hospitalization rates, because that's the part about influenza the vaccines are good for.
07:20 DaemonFC; They don't prevent you from getting it that well.
07:21 DaemonFC; They're decent at preventing hospitalizations and deaths, but they prevent very few infections.
07:22 DaemonFC; The COVID shots are turning into the same thing, really. Effective against hospitalizations and death, but not against infection.
07:22 DaemonFC; I don't wear a mask anymore and haven't for months.
07:23 DaemonFC; I've gone to one mass gathering, and to the movies sometimes, but those are rarely crowded these days.
07:23 DaemonFC; Out to eat sometimes, but it's pretty easy to find a table off in the corner away from other people at the time we're there.
07:24 DaemonFC; I have to meet with our attorney in about a couple weeks, and she's a brittle type 1 diabetic.
07:24 DaemonFC; So we'll both be wearing N95s while we're there. I still have some.
07:25 DaemonFC; I don't want to be sitting across from someone that is at severe risk and just breathing all over them for an extended period of time.
07:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], was criticizing Bourla.
07:26 DaemonFC; Fair enough. But almost every big company has a CEO like this.
07:29 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/10/22828042/moderna-mrna-flu-shot
07:29 TR Bot; Moderna data shows mRNA isnt a quick fix for the fluvaccine - The Verge
07:29 DaemonFC; "Moderna released its first results during an investor phone call and presented slides showing that the mRNA flu shots did generate antibodies but the levels of those antibodies werent higher than those for other flu shots already on the market. They also had more side effects than existing shots.
07:29 DaemonFC; The findings dont necessarily mean that mRNA flu shots arent any better than what we have now. Because mRNA vaccines are faster to design and make, the shots dont have to be developed as far in advance. Companies may not have to do as much guesswork around what strain of the flu to target them against each year because they can wait to make the shots until they see what strains are circulating."
07:29 DaemonFC; Yeah, but that patent money though.....
07:30 DaemonFC; I'll bet they can triple the price of a flu shot.
07:30 DaemonFC; Maybe they can even make it like insulin, where nobody makes the older version that was cheap.
07:39 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, October 12, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:39 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:39 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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07:48 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Pfizer Initiates Phase 3 Study of mRNA-Based Influenza Vaccine | Pfizer
07:48 schestowitz[TR]; looking how to push PATENTS and HIGHER PRICES... because generics "suck"
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08:10 matteobin; What is the difference between this channel and #boycottnovell?
08:12 highest_cubist_thrills; #boycottnovell is an open secret, and it has less nazi stuff
08:13 matteobin; I don't get it.
08:13 matteobin; Nazi stuff?
08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; well, people complain about the nazi stuff
08:13 DaemonFC; mjg59_, I reported my spouse's adverse reaction to the COVID bivalent booster to VAERS in detail.
08:13 highest_cubist_thrills; and #boycottnovell has less of it
08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but another way of looking at it is that older channels just get repurposed
08:14 matteobin; In here? Nazi stuff? I haven't read any nazi stuff so far.
08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; and the techrights website used to be boycottnovell, and they never scrapped the channel
08:14 highest_cubist_thrills; so now its sort of a secret place. but its not really secret. so, open secret
08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; I haven't read any nazi stuff so far <- thankfully there isnt much
08:15 matteobin; Who did scrape the channel?
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08:15 matteobin; The admin, schestowitz[TR], is no nazi.
08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; originally boycott novell was run by shane, roy and a few others
08:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i never said he was a nazi
08:16 highest_cubist_thrills; around 2010 it became techrights
08:16 highest_cubist_thrills; it never scrapped the channel, they just kept it
08:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but they got a new channel
08:16 highest_cubist_thrills; so the original channel became the old one
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08:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and older channels get repurposed
08:17 matteobin; Yeah. But if he is no nazi, why was there a nazi community on this IRC?
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08:17 schestowitz[TR]; BN became repurposed as a lot of site-related chat
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; rather than the topics covered
08:17 highest_cubist_thrills; why was there a nazi community on this IRC <- there isnt a nazi community
08:17 matteobin; Why was there nazi stuff?
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; i think a joke was misunderstood somewhwere
08:17 highest_cubist_thrills; just a couple idiots who think germany is oppressed by progressives and who think eugenics is a good idea
08:17 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: there must have been a joke
08:17 highest_cubist_thrills; i think a joke was misunderstood somewhwer <- half-joke
08:18 matteobin; Oh...
08:18 matteobin; I must be stupid! :D
08:18 highest_cubist_thrills; no, misunderstandings happen in irc all the time
08:18 schestowitz[TR]; atm we discuss there how to prevent a "smart" phone entering the home
08:18 matteobin; You and?
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08:19 matteobin; BTW the microwave is a perfect place to keep your phone. That or a tinfoil wrapping.
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08:20 schestowitz[TR]; not the point though
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; let me explain
08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i called my phone in the microwave and the refridgerator
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; people who know nothing about security
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; (recurring theme)
08:20 schestowitz[TR]; want to worsen security
08:20 highest_cubist_thrills; it got the call. but the refridgerator is probably soundproof at least
08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; i called my phone in the microwave and the refridgerator <- not to worry, i got out in time
08:21 matteobin; highest_cubist_thrills: mine didn't.
08:21 schestowitz[TR]; "food's ready!"
08:21 TR News; "Its time to get me up to speed with modern CSS. Theres so much new in CSS that I know too little about." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day13/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
08:21 TR Bot; Day 13: the :where() and :is() pseudo classes - Manuel Matuzovi
08:21 matteobin; I've only tried the microwave one though.
08:21 highest_cubist_thrills; also my refridgerator wasnt running, so i didnt have to go and catch it
08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but i have yet to find a reliable way to shield my mobile from calls
08:22 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: who is the person that wants to worsen security?
08:22 highest_cubist_thrills; he probably means mjg :)
08:23 matteobin; Is he schestowitz[TR]'s boss?
08:23 highest_cubist_thrills; no but sometimes he thinks he ios
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; hes a somewhat bossy guy sometimes
08:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its not easy to run the internet
08:24 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: what does your spouse think about software freedom and the current state of digital technology? Does she think you are paranoid?
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; no, she is the same
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; paranoid is a new word for "rational"
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; my boiss tgried to use that word
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; he's a really lousy person
08:25 schestowitz[TR]; and zero qualification in tech
08:26 matteobin; That's great! She's an IT person too. Right?
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; not even compensated for with experience
08:26 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, bsc in cs
08:26 TR News; "Storage is the most critical and sensitive component of your infrastructure." https://klarasystems.com/articles/5-key-reasons-to-consider-open-source-storage-over-commercial-offerings/ | Source: Klara
08:26 TR Bot; 5 Key Reasons to Consider Open Source Storage Over Commercial Offerings - Klara Inc.
08:27 matteobin; That's strange, I would never thought that CS graduates would still care about software freedom! :D
08:27 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I don't think too many have actually died from COVID vaccinations. Most of the people who cite VAERS don't understand how it works.
08:27 DaemonFC; I mean technically there's nothing preventing ME from reporting deaths to VAERS other than it's against the law.
08:28 matteobin; What is VAERS?
08:28 DaemonFC; But the ones scare sites attribute to the vaccines actually read like "54 days after dose 2, an 11 year old boy died of COVID-19 infection related to myocarditis.".
08:28 DaemonFC; Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
08:28 matteobin; Is this an UK thing?
08:29 DaemonFC; It's required by law that the Department of Health and Human Services maintains a database of reported vaccine adverse events.
08:29 DaemonFC; No, the United States.
08:29 DaemonFC; It was part of the law that shielded vaccine manufacturers from liability for injuries and deaths.
08:30 DaemonFC; There's a program called NVIC for National Vaccine Injury Compensation, and you have to file claims for damages against the US government.
08:30 DaemonFC; So vaccines are a great business to be in. The government finances the research and if you put out a batch that hurts people, the government has to pay out the damages. Not your company.
08:31 DaemonFC; mjg59_ didn't mention this part. The reason that law passed was because soem bad batches of vaccines got out, for things like Polio, and actually started hurting and killing people.
08:32 DaemonFC; And we got to a point where so many people were filing lawsuits claiming injury for vaccine stuff, that the vaccine companies said "There's not much profit in this. We risk major lawsuits. We may just stop making them and pull out of the business.".
08:33 DaemonFC; But what the law is doing now is letting villains like Bill Gates come into the market, skip human trials, get it past crooks at the FDA saying mice studies are enough, and then if it all goes wrong, the US government has to pay the victims, with tax money.
08:33 matteobin; It sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory.
08:33 DaemonFC; I don't know how things work in the UK.
08:34 DaemonFC; https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation
08:34 TR Bot; National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program | HRSA
08:34 matteobin; Aren't you villifying Bill Gates?
08:36 DaemonFC; Like he should need it at this point.
08:36 DaemonFC; Anyway, lots of attorneys on Facebook are advertising that they can sue the government if your arm got injured or something.
08:36 DaemonFC; The ad says that.
08:37 highest_cubist_thrills; no need to villify bill gates when he can do it himself
08:37 highest_cubist_thrills; reporting how gates villifies himself on the other hand, could be done a little more often
08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; only he spends so much time bribing the media, everyone finds other things to talk about
08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; like villifying stallman
08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; so theres no need to villify bill gates, but he could still use a hand from time to time
08:39 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/13/irc-log-121022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/13/irc-log-121022/
08:39 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Techrights
08:40 matteobin; I'm not saying he hasn't done harm. I'm asking if the words you choose might weak your argument. From your writing it seems you dislike Gates on a personal level, you don't seem credible.
08:41 TR News; [Old] "And they protect it like, some kind of political ideology. And they can get very angry when people opposes them." https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,2400.0.html |
08:41 DaemonFC; It's hard to like someone who funded genital mutilation based on lies that it would protect hundreds of thousands of people from HIV, 100%.
08:41 TR Bot; Why do systemd users get very angry when you say systemd bad?
08:41 TR News; "A good summary about most of the beforementioned distributions can be found here." https://nosystemd.org/ |
08:41 TR Bot; No systemd
08:41 highest_cubist_thrills; why would disliking gates on a personal level make anyone less credible?
08:41 highest_cubist_thrills; hes a horrible evil person
08:41 matteobin; How could I know?
08:41 highest_cubist_thrills; facts are facts. opinions dont diminish facts.
08:41 TR News; "conceptional problems" https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Arguments_against_systemd/ |
08:41 TR Bot; Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd
08:42 matteobin; I don't know him personally.
08:42 matteobin; I know his actions, but I don't know his persona.
08:42 highest_cubist_thrills; you can have a personal opinion about someone based on facts
08:42 TR News; "systemd is driving "just google the problem" attitude" https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/ |
08:42 TR Bot; that sucks less | suckless.org software that sucks less
08:42 highest_cubist_thrills; I know his actions, but I don't know his persona. <- maybe hitler was lovely when you got to know him
08:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but why would it matter
08:43 TR News; "Over this past year, I've seen a lot of frequently-used but logically invalid arguments for using systemd" https://judecnelson.blogspot.com/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html |
08:43 matteobin; I don't want to start a crusade against him, I think it's better to stick to facts and consequences.
08:43 TR Bot; Jude's Blog: Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies
08:43 highest_cubist_thrills; I think it's better to stick to facts and consequences. <- there are no consequences for the 10 richest men on earth
08:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean theres a shitload of karma but who knows if it will come in this lifetime
08:43 matteobin; There is little point in saying that Hitler was evil, if you don't comment the facts.
08:43 highest_cubist_thrills; There is little point in saying that Hitler was evil, if you don't comment the facts. <- thats pretty pedantic
08:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and the facts are commented on anyway.
08:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and opinions dont diminish the facts.
08:44 highest_cubist_thrills; what youre stating is a false dichotomy
08:44 highest_cubist_thrills; you can have facts AND opinions. it isnt either/or.
08:44 TR News; "There are some things where your first impression is WTF?, but on closer inspection turn out to have good features." https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2016/05/18/systemd-it-keeps-getting-worse/ |
08:44 TR Bot; SystemD it keeps getting worse | Musings from the Chiefio
08:44 matteobin; Opinions don't diminish facts, but they do weak arguments.
08:44 TR News; "My view is that this idea is wrong: systemd is broken by design" https://ewontfix.com/14/ |
08:44 TR Bot; - Broken by design: systemd
08:44 highest_cubist_thrills; the opinions dont make the facts less factual. theyre just people expressing themselves
08:45 highest_cubist_thrills; Opinions don't diminish facts, but they do weak arguments <- maybe the two are unrelated
08:45 matteobin; Opinions might make you look like a fool.
08:45 highest_cubist_thrills; if you insist on combining them into a single arguement, how are you not committing ad-hom yourself?
08:45 matteobin; Sorry
08:46 TR News; [Old] UbuntuBSD https://web.archive.org/web/20161029224936/https://www.ubuntubsd.org/wiki:why_not_systemd | Source: Internet Archive
08:46 matteobin; What does ad-hom mean?
08:46 TR Bot; wiki:why_not_systemd - UbuntuBSD
08:46 TR News; [Old] "But systemd has no clear goals, no specification, the single implementation is a moving target... it's basically a microsoft product." https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/8/772 |
08:46 TR Bot; LKML: Rob Landley: Re: OT: Open letter to the Linux World
08:46 highest_cubist_thrills; ad hom is the fallacy that x is ____ kind of person, therefore [some irrelevant thing is proven]
08:46 highest_cubist_thrills; like if i said "youre stupid, so youre wrong"
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; that's not that
08:47 highest_cubist_thrills; first of all, you may or may not be stupid. but even if you were...
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; ad hominem means "to the person"
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; it comes in eseveral forms
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; but that misdirects the debate
08:47 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, latin translations are more useful than an example
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
08:47 matteobin; Got it. Thanks.
08:47 schestowitz[TR]; ok, let's put it this way
08:48 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> yeah <- i was being sarcastic
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; the concise way to describe it is
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; talk about the messenger, not the message
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; also known as "shoot the messenger"
08:48 highest_cubist_thrills; talk about the messenger, not the message <- that works
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; ad hom can be done to companies too
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; like, company x lies a lot, hence this latest claim is false
08:48 schestowitz[TR]; but then it's not a person
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; but a CEO is a person
08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; though when you have a reputation for lying, its hard to blame someone for assuming youve lied again
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08:49 TR News; [Old] "The conventional understanding of systemd is usually related to its features as a service manager" https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/10/11/0/ | Source: DnE
08:49 TR Bot; Structural and semantic deficiencies in the systemd architecture for real-world service management, a technical treatise
08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; in a logical argument its a fallacy. in a human assumption it may qualify as common sense.
08:49 highest_cubist_thrills; common sense isnt a logical argument though.
08:50 TR News; [Old] "Some people can only reproduce if they wrap the command in a while true loop. Yay non-determinism!" https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet | Source: Ayer
08:50 TR Bot; How to Crash Systemd in One Tweet
08:51 TR News; [Old] "I often see posts elsewhere about some folks not using systemd nor having any interest in using. It raises a few questions: [...]" https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/why-would-you-not-use-systemd/22465 |
08:51 TR Bot; Why Would You not Use Systemd? - EndeavourOS pub - EndeavourOS
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08:52 TR News; [Old] "Depending on your actual application scenario, sysvinit, OpenRC, or even upstart and systemd may actually be appropriate for your use" https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1105854.html |
08:52 TR Bot; Gentoo Forums :: View topic - s6/s6-rc vs systemd, or why you probably do not need systemd
08:52 TR News; "most users don't give a flip how fast a system boots. Most of my systems run 30-40 days at a time" http://cholla.mmto.org/computers/linux/systemd.html |
08:52 TR Bot; Systemd sucks and I hate it.
08:53 TR News; "On the RC2040 you can Run any RC2014 Stock ROM image. including Basic and various Z80 monitors and CPM monitor." https://www.extremeelectronics.co.uk/the-rc2040/ |
08:53 TR Bot; The RC2040 - Extreme Electronics
08:53 TR News; "10 logical fallacies to avoid in UX & product design" https://bootcamp.uxdesign.cc/logical-fallacies-to-avoid-in-ux-product-design-5be775337256 |
08:53 TR Bot; 10 logical fallacies to avoid in UX & product design | by Praveen J | Bootcamp
08:53 DaemonFC; https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
08:53 TR Bot; Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report | CDC
08:54 DaemonFC; Flu activity is quite a bit higher than this time last year.
08:55 TR News; "Most of the tools we use to keep our homes safe are decades or even centuries old" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/12/how-a-smart-home-can-be-a-safer-home/ | Source: Arduino
08:55 TR Bot; How a smart home can be a safer home | Arduino Blog
08:55 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: one possible explanation
08:55 schestowitz[TR]; people\'s immune system got weaker
08:55 schestowitz[TR]; except to one thing it got optimised for
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; this was supported by 2021 studied
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; they said people vaccinated for covid-19 were more prone to contracting other viruses
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; I can find the referecences
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; so can you, I think
08:56 schestowitz[TR]; unless all the "fact checkers" flood you (salespeople)
08:57 matteobin; Anyway, back on topic: I don't known about Gates involvement with vaccines. I know nothing about it. I know Gates from Microsoft and, as CEO of Microsoft, he did a lot of things I don't like. Now I'm reading your comments about vaccines and Gates. You call him a villain. That alerts me, because that kind of language is commonly used by conspiracy theorists, who base their arguments on nothing.
08:57 matteobin; Therefore I'm asking you, does this intense level of hatred help an outsider better understand your argument? Keep in mind I'm not a native English reader, so I might have missed some nuances.
08:57 TR News; "This is all you need to get started with RISC-V programming in C and Assembly." https://olimex.wordpress.com/2022/10/06/esp32-c3-devkit-lipo-risc-v-development-board-with-build-in-usb-jtag-wifi-bluetooth5-lipo-charger-and-15-gpios/ | Source: Olimex
08:57 TR Bot; ESP32-C3-DevKit-Lipo RISC-V development board with build in USB JTAG, WiFi, Bluetooth5, Lipo charger and 15 GPIOs | olimex
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: he is a criminal
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; and worse
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; arrested several times
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; before he even matured
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; he is also an enabler of Jeffrey Epstein
08:58 *schestowitz[TR] gets links
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> Therefore I'm asking you, does this intense level of hatred <- this isnt really a fair question in the first place
08:58 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
08:58 TR Bot; Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
08:59 schestowitz[TR]; you tend to "hate" criminal who attack your and your profession
08:59 schestowitz[TR]; and who buy the press to then hail them as heroes
08:59 schestowitz[TR]; Many Ukrainians "hate" Putin
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 117.00
09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; /me thinks matteobin is probably never going to be intellectually honest and is never going to really try
09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; a question that stilted is just something a shill would ask
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09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; theres a possibility of innocence here, but i dont buy this "sorry my english" horseshit
09:00 highest_cubist_thrills; ive about had it with this act
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09:01 DaemonFC; I'm not saying vaccines are bad.
09:01 highest_cubist_thrills; youre a fucking troll, matt
09:01 DaemonFC; I'm saying that the process leading to their approval is getting sketchy.
09:01 matteobin; Sorry. No, I'm not.
09:01 highest_cubist_thrills; whatever man
09:01 DaemonFC; Gates "investing" in them has contributed to this.
09:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the politeness act is bullshit
09:01 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Which studies suggest immune system impairment as a result of COVID vaccination?
09:02 highest_cubist_thrills; theres are thousands of you in the annals of internet discussion
09:02 matteobin; I've entered a conversation I don't much about it to really comment on.
09:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and theyre all as fake as you are
09:02 DaemonFC; These modern vaccine companies are acting like mjg59_'s employer, right?
09:02 DaemonFC; They never had a product before.
09:02 matteobin; Forgive me. I'm not fake.
09:02 highest_cubist_thrills; its always possible im wrong
09:03 matteobin; I'm just new and I don't know you.
09:03 DaemonFC; Now suddenly they have one with a captive buyer. Of course, his employer is just some dumb "self-driving car" company that loses $750+ million a year on $80 million revenue.
09:03 DaemonFC; And won't last much more than another year, barring a takeover.
09:03 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: I've been looking, and I genuinely can't find one
09:03 matteobin; I was just curious about what you were saying, but I wasn't able to understand if you were joking because of your terminology.
09:04 DaemonFC; VC money is drying up and so Aurora is pretty much fucked.
09:04 matteobin; Calling someone a villain confused me. Sorry.
09:04 DaemonFC; mjg59_ has about 12 months of paychecks coming, maybe, if this doesn't change somehow.
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> Calling someone a villain confused me. Sorry. <- this is so fucking disingenuous
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09:04 DaemonFC; They say they "hope" they can get into early 2024. Maybe they toss him overboard to slow the burn.
09:05 DaemonFC; Then he can compete with the thousands of "tech" workers a day now who lose their job.
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09:05 matteobin; There are many Bill Gates is evil memes on the internet that I didn't know if you were joking.
09:05 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg59_ he mixes a lot of speculation up with medical studies
09:05 DaemonFC; San Francisco in particular is failing.
09:06 DaemonFC; Right now the ones being laid off are on unemployment and have savings.
09:06 DaemonFC; But how long will this last?
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09:06 matteobin; I'm not disingenous! I'm just confused.
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09:06 highest_cubist_thrills; they arent interchangeable, but sometimes they are, i guess
09:06 matteobin; BTW I've never said you were wrong.
09:06 TR News; "STMP15X-SHIELD plugs on top of OLinuXino" https://olimex.wordpress.com/2022/10/11/new-shield-for-stmp157-olinuxino-industrial-grade-open-source-hardware-linux-computer/ | Source: Olimex
09:06 TR Bot; New shield for STMP157-OLinuXino Industrial grade Open Source Hardware Linux computer | olimex
09:07 TR News; "Connecting the Tufty 2040 to a computer via USB enables you to program it in MicroPython or C++." https://magpi.raspberrypi.com/articles/tufty-2040-interactive-name-badge-review | Source: Raspberry Pi
09:07 TR Bot; Tufty 2040 interactive name badge review The MagPi magazine
09:07 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> mjg59_ he mixes a lot of speculation up with medical studies
09:07 schestowitz[TR]; no
09:07 schestowitz[TR]; Google is your friend, mjg59_
09:07 schestowitz[TR]; also gave you like $500,000
09:08 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Are you referring to the review by Seneff et al?
09:08 DaemonFC; He left Google, remember. "Left" a real company that makes money to go to some VC furnace that will be bankrupt soon.
09:08 DaemonFC; LOL
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot the formal term forit
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; it's not a new thing
09:08 matteobin; I don't know you guys, I don't know this community. I've just found a website about GNU/Linux and then I decided to enter the IRC server.
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; the immune system adapts itself to conditions
09:09 mjg59_; I am genuinely searching for what you're referring to
09:09 DaemonFC; mjg59_ should be sweating over these Fed rate hikes.
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; that's why "invaders" into islands can kill many of the loals
09:09 mjg59_; yes, you gain immunity to things
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; by introducing viruses they're not 'evolved' (in the collective inoculation sense) to deal with
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; I'm going back to postin g tech now
09:09 matteobin; Maybe I shouldn't have been so cocky about my opinion, but that's about it.
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; don't want this channel to be about "vaccines"
09:10 starstreak; did someone say reptilians?
09:10 mjg59_; That would not explain people having weaker immune response to other viruses if they had a COVID vaccination
09:10 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> yes, you gain immunity to things
09:10 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> don't want this channel to be about "vaccines" <- bizarre way to post pseudomedical nonsense and not be challenged or asked for clarification
09:10 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: come on, britney, don't help the trolls
09:11 DaemonFC; Most of the people working with Mandy who are vaccinated have had COVID 3-4 times now.
09:11 TR News; "For those who appreciate a simpler experience, its good that Google Maps version is sticking around." https://jalopnik.com/google-keeps-making-androids-driving-focused-modes-wors-1849642751 | Source: GO Media
09:11 TR Bot; Google Keeps Making Android's Driving-Focused Modes Worse
09:11 mjg59_; 08:56 < schestowitz[TR]> this was supported by 2021 studied
09:11 mjg59_; 08:56 < schestowitz[TR]> they said people vaccinated for covid-19 were more prone to contracting other viruses
09:11 DaemonFC; Most with Pfizer or Moderna, but even early on, one of them went abroad and got two AZ shots and then had COVID a month after he got back here.
09:11 mjg59_; All I want is a pointer to those studies
09:11 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is actually a little fucked off about all the pseudomedical bullshit roy posts about covid in here
09:12 DaemonFC; So that didn't even protect him from severe COVID a months after the second shot.
09:12 highest_cubist_thrills; only because it is bullshit and he refuses to be corrected or even questioned about it
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; kettle, pot, black
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; *deny
09:12 highest_cubist_thrills; and then he gets on a high horse about other people doing similar (but less egregiously)
09:12 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], okay :)
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: you are a vaccines sceptic
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; and you try to throw this at me
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; my position is,
09:13 starstreak; systemd-boot > grub
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; vaccines need to be properly tested
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: you are a vaccines sceptic <- what the fuck are you talking about?
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; what we have now barely solves the issue
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; im vaxxed. youre not.
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; im a GOVERNMENT MANDATE sceptic
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; you hit back at me for using the term anivaxx
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; theres no mandate to get a vax.
09:13 DaemonFC; https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14760584.2022.2071705
09:13 TR Bot;
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; saying it was not to be used
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09:14 DaemonFC; There's something to consider.
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, cause you used a diaspora pod called naturalnews
09:14 DaemonFC; mjg59_, "Just get another shot every few months!"
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09:14 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> you hit back at me for using the term anivax <- i think youre conflating a lot of different things here
09:14 DaemonFC; "A study in Japan reported reduced immune responses to repeated vaccination against some strains of influenza type A virus, resulting in a significantly reduced protection rate [4]. Repeated vaccinations are associated with reduced antibody-affinity maturation, which may lower vaccine effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in humans [5]. A Canadian study of adults >65 reported declining vaccine effectiveness with repeated influenza
09:14 DaemonFC; vaccination [6]."
09:14 highest_cubist_thrills; first of all, ive had vaccienes since i was a baby.
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; yyou worried about nanobots and such
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; or nano0-level tracking
09:14 highest_cubist_thrills; second, ive voluntarily gotten them before covid
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; iirc
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> yyou worried about nanobots and such <- no, youre a moron.
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; I've been given vaccines my whole life
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; inc. before travelling to asia
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; youre literally making this up.
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; once again
09:15 DaemonFC; "A study in the U.S.A. found that prior year vaccination negatively impacted the current vaccine effectiveness for influenza A (H3N2) [7,8]. Further findings suggest that two flu vaccine doses in the five previous years lower vaccination protection from a current dose [9,10]."
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; I can find the email
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; youve twisted thigns i said before
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont be shocked if you do it again.
09:15 DaemonFC; "The European Medicines Agency has warned that repeat COVID-19 booster doses could adversely affect the immune response."
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; ballmer: anyone said THIGH?
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; youve flat out made other shit up.
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; then youve posted similar concerns in other channels, and exaggerated mine
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; you want to do it right now to distract from me saying what a charlatan you are about covid stuff.
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but the truth is youre a charlatan about goddamned nearly every subject in the world.
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; you lie constantly.
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; even when its the truth, you build lies around it.
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; so go ahead.
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; be my guest. its your channel.
09:17 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You've got a PhD, if you're going to make a claim about certain studies from 2021 existing you ought to be able to back that up
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; but youre still utterly full of fucking shit.
09:17 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Otherwise it's legitimate for people to conclude that you were just making the claim up
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; You've got a PhD <- honestly you should just call manchester and ask the registrar if THATS real
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; but it probably is. i dont think he would cosplay in a cap and gown to fake a phd.
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; fig, you are making your own defamation bridge now
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; look at the mirror
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; *brigade
09:18 highest_cubist_thrills; roy, youve been a liar your whole life. suck. my. balls.
09:18 TR News; "Wayland is now enabled for daily builds and if all goes well, it will be enabled for Blender 3.4 release too." https://code.blender.org/2022/10/wayland-support-on-linux/ | Source: Blender
09:18 TR Bot; Wayland Support on Linux Blender Developers Blog
09:18 highest_cubist_thrills; youre just trying to impress your mother who doesnt care about anyone.
09:18 TR News; "ffmpeg has been described as the Swiss army knife of multimedia." https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/12/In-praise-of-ffmpeg.html | Source: Drew DeVault
09:18 TR Bot; In praise of ffmpeg
09:19 TR News; "The mission of Software Heritage is to collect, preserve and share all the publicly available source cod" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=166551513727247&w=2 | Source: Mailing list ARChives
09:19 TR Bot; 'Software Heritage CVS loader - Call for public review' - MARC
09:19 TR News; [Old] "The Software Heritage CVS Loader imports the history of CVS repositories into the SWH dataset" https://docs.softwareheritage.org/devel/swh-loader-cvs/index.html |
09:19 TR Bot; Software Heritage - CVS loader Software Heritage - Development Documentation documentation
09:19 starstreak; smoke weed every day
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and your father is a competitive jackass who made you into this-- caricature
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but its sheer narcissism double rainbow all the way
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC has already pointed to one study to that effect
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; and I said,
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; this is all it will ever be. you dont evolve.
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; it's not on topic anyway
09:21 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: No, he didn't
09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; you dont change.
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; it's just trolls trying to change the subject
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; to undermine the channel
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; by misrepresenting people's POV
09:21 starstreak; that sounds like a conspiracy theory
09:21 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: He pointed to a study that suggested that repeated vaccinations against a specific pathogen reduced the effectiveness of vaccinations against that pathogen
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; from what I recall,fig, we spoke about natuiralnews
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; after you moved to their diaspora instance
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; and you didn't fancy how I kept using the term "antivax"
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; and explained to me the term was bad
09:21 highest_cubist_thrills; im not interested in your rewriting and reframing of history
09:21 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: What you claimed was that vaccinations against COVID reduced immune response against other pathogens
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; nowadays it's totally overused
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09:22 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You're a scientist, you should be able to figure out the difference
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; but back then it was still limited tyo people who actually rejected vaccination as a concept
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; which I think is what naturalnews is
09:22 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: So, again, can you point at a study that backs up your claim?
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09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i ignored most of their bs and used an instance that didnt censor
09:22 TR News; "Last week, I read "The Gamma Database Project" for a Red Book reading group." https://ntietz.com/blog/review-gamma-database-paper/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
09:22 TR Bot; Paper review: The Gamma Database Project | nicholas@web
09:22 matteobin; highest_cubist_thrills: why are you so aggressive?
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; jason robinson (who signed the anti-rms thing) ran a cult across instances
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09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; nn was outside the cult.
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; thats it
09:23 TR News; "Organized with the support of [UNESCO], [INRIA] and [LIP6], this workshop will also be the chance to learn more about the Software Heritage Acquisition Process (SWHAP)" https://www.softwareheritage.org/2022/09/30/announcing-swhap-days/ |
09:23 TR Bot; Announcing SWHAP Days in October for Landmark Legacy Software Preservation Software Heritage
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09:23 highest_cubist_thrills; most instances were part of that groupthink bullshit
09:23 highest_cubist_thrills; but the thing is-- youre rewriting history. and i have no sympathy.
09:23 highest_cubist_thrills; you base lies on truths, yes
09:23 highest_cubist_thrills; but the few truths you lean on dont change the fact that youre constructing a mostly bullshit narrative here
09:24 highest_cubist_thrills; which is really what you invarably do. on. every. subject.
09:24 highest_cubist_thrills; even the coup.
09:24 schestowitz[TR]; so which is it? what did you tell me?
09:24 schestowitz[TR]; I can find that email
09:24 highest_cubist_thrills; what did you tell me? <- its not. relevant. youre. still. full. of. crap.
09:24 schestowitz[TR]; maybe the context was some ultra-orthodox people who reject measles vaccines
09:24 highest_cubist_thrills; > I can find that email <- go aheaed
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; from memory..
09:25 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe the context was some ultra-orthodox people who reject measles vaccine <- yeah. big dea.
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; and causing a resurgeance in ny are
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; *area
09:25 highest_cubist_thrills; big deal.
09:25 mjg59_; Anyway point here is that Roy will make factual assertions and then be unable to back them up
09:25 highest_cubist_thrills; youve taken smaller things out of context before.
09:25 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> Anyway point here is that Roy will make factual assertions and then be unable to back them up <- he will go a lot farther than that.
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: I'm not here to feed trolls
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09:25 mjg59_; You should consider whether what he says about any other topic is more reliable than his claims about vaccines
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; and this channel is NOT about vaccines
09:26 TR News; "What's special about GNU Grep 3.8 is that its version of egrep and fgrep now print an extra message when you run them." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/EgrepFgrepStuckWith | Source: uni Toronto
09:26 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/EgrepFgrepStuckWith
09:26 TR News; "Same way for all heuristics: use it to make very low cost judgements or to jumpstart deeper investigations." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/what-a-wedding-taught-me-about-software/ | Source: Buttondown
09:26 TR Bot; What a Wedding Taught Me About Software Engineering Buttondown
09:26 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: You'll happily talk about vaccines in here right up until the point where someone challenges you
09:26 highest_cubist_thrills; bingo
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; I link to my site
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; like I do riyan's
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; because we're regulars here
09:26 TR News; "Brett Kagan, who led a study published in the journal Neuron Wednesday, told AFP his findings open the door to a new type of research into biological information processors" https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1978341.html | Source: RTL
09:26 TR Bot; RTL Today - Intelligent behavior : Brain cells in dish learn to play video game
09:26 *starstreak inhales from her vape, and blows it out of her nose at the channel
09:27 mjg59_; You just made an unsubstantiated claim about COVID vaccines
09:27 TR News; "During my summer internship at Trail of Bits, I worked on the fork of the RBPF JIT compiler that is used to execute Solana smart contracts." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/10/12/solana-jit-compiler-ebpf-arm64/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
09:27 TR Bot; Porting the Solana eBPF JIT compiler to ARM64 | Trail of Bits Blog
09:27 mjg59_; One that could discourage people from receiving a vaccination that might save their life
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; it is not unsubstantiated
09:27 highest_cubist_thrills; /me hopes for a contact high, unless shes smoking gnome
09:27 mjg59_; So substantiate it!
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; and you are just trying to find grudge to derail the debate
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; about ON-TOPCI stuff
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; we talked about bill gates' crimes
09:27 mjg59_; You said you could find the reference
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; and then vaccines somehow came up
09:27 starstreak;
09:27 mjg59_; So why not find the reference
09:27 DaemonFC; https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/science-unclear-fourth-covid-shot/
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; back to gates now
09:28 TR Bot; Science unclear around fourth COVID-19 shot | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: so gates commited crimes his whole left
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; and was barely ever punished for any
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; that's why many do not tolerate the persona
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; dn he is curently the most loathed person on the planet
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. same as in the a990s
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; *1990s
09:28 TR News; "The key insight is that if you put a break at the very end of a while statement, it will exit the loop unconditionally." https://snarky.ca/unravelling-if-statements/ |
09:28 TR Bot; Unravelling `if` statements
09:28 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> So why not find the reference <- im sure an email that proves im a vax sceptic because it thoguht reducing orthodox jews to antivaxxers was unfair (a few years ago) is more important
09:28 mjg59_; He's apparently failing to find that as well
09:29 highest_cubist_thrills; even though im vaxxed and boosters and roy looks down on people who have bothered.
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: yes, that's a fair recollection
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; I think that was the context, indeed
09:29 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: thanks for the info.
09:29 TR News; "It can handle lists, alists, hash-tables, strings, vectors, records, and all callable procedures (like call-tables)." https://idiomdrottning.org/ref | Source: Idiomdrottning
09:29 TR Bot; ref*
09:29 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> He's apparently failing to find that as wel <- im sure he can, im more impressed that he thinks it proves anything
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: let me give you a link
09:29 highest_cubist_thrills; I think that was the context, indeed <- what the fuck does that have to do with anything at all?
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique
09:29 TR Bot; Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; lots of research went into this
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; check around 2010
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; when we covered the original issues
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09:30 schestowitz[TR]; in more recent years the focus changed somewhat
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; to avoid repeating stuff we covered already
09:30 DaemonFC; https://www.dw.com/en/covid-do-multiple-boosters-exhaust-our-immune-response/a-60447735
09:30 TR Bot; Do multiple boosters exhaust our immune response? | Science | In-depth reporting on science and technology | DW | 18.01.2022
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; like monsanto, patents, buying the media
09:30 DaemonFC; "Fourth doses of the COVID-19 vaccine dont appear to offer significant protection against catching omicron according to a preliminary study conducted in Israel, the first country to authorize a second booster for its general population. Researchers announced the resultsMonday, around three weeks after fourth shots became widely available across the country.
09:30 DaemonFC; "
09:30 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
09:30 matteobin; Thanks.
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: no need
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; he is wrong
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; don't feed the trolls
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; it just helps him derail the channel
09:31 highest_cubist_thrills; but which one is the troll
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; and he want to come up with some excuse to defame us in twitter colelctively
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; as he so often does... for eyars already
09:31 highest_cubist_thrills; (its a false dichotomy, but a rhetorical one)
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; *years
09:31 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: the troll is here just to cause harm, has malice
09:32 schestowitz[TR]; not intent to contribute
09:32 DaemonFC; I believe this was talking about the "original" COVID shots, which the FDA no longer allows for booster doses anymore in the US.
09:32 highest_cubist_thrills; let me know when he posts dangerous pseudoscience
09:32 matteobin; schestowitz[TR]: does this kind of aggressive talk is the norm in here? This whole situation is a bit strange to me.
09:32 DaemonFC; Your 3rd shot has to be the bivalent.
09:32 TR News; "An extension of this idea is the "fragmention."" https://jamesg.blog/2022/10/11/fragmention-links/ | Source: James G
09:32 TR Bot; Adding fragmention links to my website | James' Coffee Blog
09:32 highest_cubist_thrills; which for complex reasons i would probably defend-- but i would also let people challenge it because thats a reasonable thing to do
09:32 TR News; "Lets start with tooling. There are 3 categories of tools for helping with Python development: [...]" https://blog.viraptor.info/post/python-dependency-management-difficulty-is-an-unhelpful-meme | Source: Viraptor
09:32 TR Bot; Python dependency management difficulty is an unhelpfulmeme
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: pro tip: in recent years the PR legions of bill and melinda wroked on another fac-e-saving strategy
09:33 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Again, that's about the impact of COVID vaccinations on COVID, not on other infections
09:33 DaemonFC; "Fourth doses of the COVID-19 vaccine dont appear to offer significant protection against catching omicron according to a preliminary study conducted in Israel, the first country to authorize a second booster for its general population. Researchers announced the resultsMonday, around three weeks after fourth shots became widely available across the country.
09:33 DaemonFC; "
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; trying to paint all the critics as antivaxxers and "conspiracy theorists"
09:33 DaemonFC; Ooops
09:33 schestowitz[TR]; the 5g patent pool giants did the same
09:34 DaemonFC; "When someone gets a vaccine, the antigen is there for maybe two weeks, then it goes away, said Reinhard Obst, a professor at Ludwig Maximilian University's Institute of Immunology who has facilitated research on T cell exhaustion in mice. While T cell exhaustion can be observed in cancer or HIV patients in response to some immune-based treatments, it's never been observed in humans in response to frequent COVID-19 vaccination.
09:34 DaemonFC; Obst said that although there's little clinical data behind it, Cavaleri's concern makes sense.
09:34 DaemonFC; "The idea of vaccinating every four months or even more than that is novel. It's something that you haven't seen with other types of viruses. And the idea of T cell exhaustion is the reason why you might pause," said Obst.
09:34 DaemonFC; "If someone would ask me, Hey, would you get vaccinated every four months' or let's even say every two months, four times in a rowyeah, I would raise my hand and say Better carefulgive them a rest,'" he said."
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: he is trying to distracvt from something
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; to change the subject
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; srcroll up
09:34 highest_cubist_thrills; i read it the first time
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; and see what the troll is trying to distract FROM
09:34 schestowitz[TR]; he might soon be Microsoft emeployee
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. few degrees of separation from Jeffrey Epstein
09:35 highest_cubist_thrills; i bet you he quits after the acquisition
09:35 mjg59_; DaemonFC: It's also a study into whether the vaccine against original COVID has a strong impact on the probability of *infection* with Omicron, which is not a super surprising result
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; you'd think, eh?
09:35 highest_cubist_thrills; not out of integrity, but out of habit if nothing else
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; government conducts study, national german broadbcasteer report
09:35 schestowitz[TR]; but armchair failed biologist knows better
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; while pretending to be security pro
09:36 DaemonFC; mjg59_, So if a fourth dose of the original vaccine doesn't protect against the version that's causing 97% of infections, why bother with the risk?
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: don't feed
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; the topic rogiinally was matteobin asking about gates
09:36 DaemonFC; They knew an update was coming, right?
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; then the subject was changed
09:36 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, about gates and patents, in jan 2020 someone came here to irc
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09:37 schestowitz[TR]; saying gates had patents on covid-19 stuff
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; we turned her down
09:37 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Because it did still reduce the risk of severe outcomes?
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; because it seemed ranty and unhinged
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; she was insulted by this
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; "linuxgurl" iirc
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; later on gates did use covid-19 for PR cover
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; while his divorce was progressing
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; since oct 2019
09:37 schestowitz[TR]; due to epstein, according to his ex wife
09:37 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Can you point at the study that says repeated COVID vaccinations reduce immune response to other diseases?
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; and so that's what trolls are eager to distract from
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_: piss off, you are off topic
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; we were talking about gates
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; you changed the subject
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; as you always do
09:38 mjg59_; I was literally responding to something you said
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; no
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; back to the topic
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; so bill gates is now bribing the media some more
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; to pretend to combat climate change
09:38 schestowitz[TR]; while he himselkf is the biggestpolluter on the planet
09:38 highest_cubist_thrills; do the "im jsut going to assume then" bit
09:38 mjg59_; 09:11 < mjg59_> 08:56 < schestowitz[TR]> they said people vaccinated for covid-19 were more prone to contracting other viruses
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; and bribed mesia goes along with the phony narrative
09:39 mjg59_; You literally said that!
09:39 mjg59_; I was responding to it!
09:39 highest_cubist_thrills; generally i think its bunk but on this occasion i think its warranted
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; what you you, racist or somethinmg?
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09:39 schestowitz[TR]; (you are)
09:39 mjg59_; schestowitz[TR]: Can you explain how asking to justify a claim you made is racist?
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; people who said "transphobic shit" 20 years ago are almost always racists too
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; anyway
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09:39 schestowitz[TR]; back on topic
09:39 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: if you need any pointers, let us know
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; as you can see, certain subjects lead to noise from microsoft -centric trolls
09:40 mjg59_; Ok, so there's no study that says COVID vaccines reduce immune response to other diseases and Roy was just making shit up
09:40 DaemonFC; Oh Roy, you know he's a reformed one now because he's "partnered" with one he won't get married to.
09:40 highest_cubist_thrills; <mjg59_> Ok, so there's no study that says COVID vaccines reduce immune response to other diseases and Roy was just making shit up <- on this occasion im not going to protest
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; he started sticking his *** in one
09:40 schestowitz[TR]; so now trans people are "OK"
09:40 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre more than ok, theyre fucking awesome
09:40 TR News; "Work on the CircuitPython support for Raspberry Pi Pico W has reached the point where it has been released on circuitpython.org." https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/10/12/python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-circuitpython-supports-pico-w-in-latest-beta-and-much-more-circuitpython-icymi-python-micropython-raspberry_pi/ | Source: Adafruit
09:41 TR Bot; Python on Microcontrollers Newsletter: CircuitPython Supports Pico W in Latest Beta and much more! #CircuitPython #ICYMI #Python @micropython @Raspberry_Pi Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!
09:41 TR News; "Figure out ways to use whats there and to make whats there better." https://idiomdrottning.org/tools-vs-standards | Source: Idiomdrottning
09:41 TR Bot; Tools vs standards
09:41 TR News; "The lab is secured both by ID badges and by Puches own rigorous standards." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/12/1060924/donating-your-body-science-body-farm/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
09:41 TR Bot; What happens when you donate your body to science | MIT Technology Review
09:42 TR News; GREAT news for GNU/Linux. In India, GNU/Linux rose to 10%. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3675895/pc-sales-fall-off-a-cliff.html | Source: Computer World
09:42 TR Bot; sales fall off a cliff | Computerworld
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; psydruid: ^
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; amd: down 40%
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; turns out people don't need 8 core to write a letter
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; and to check the weather
09:42 schestowitz[TR]; *8-core PC
09:42 highest_cubist_thrills; linucks
09:43 TR News; "Indeed, a recent study in the scientific journal Polymers, conducted by Italian scientists, analyzed breast milk" https://www.salon.com/2022/10/11/microplastics-human-breast-milk/ | Source: Salon
09:43 TR Bot; found in human breast milk for the first time | Salon.com
09:44 TR News; "The exoskeleton boots used in the trials were built from aluminium and carbon fibre and have a motor to pull on a lever that helps to rotate the ankle and push off harder with the toes." https://www.newscientist.com/article/2341275-exoskeleton-boots-learn-how-you-walk-to-help-improve-your-gait/ | Source: New Scientist
09:44 TR Bot; Exoskeleton boots learn how you walk to help improve your gait | New Scientist
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: smoke wii eveyr day
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; oiops
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; I meant, every
09:44 highest_cubist_thrills; its cuter when she does it
09:44 schestowitz[TR]; sorry for typos, in a hurry today
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; working at 5:30
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bjWs5nHJQ8Y
09:45 TR Bot; Dr Dre-Smoke weed everyday - Invidious
09:45 schestowitz[TR]; i think I heard it like 500 times
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; even the rap sucks now
09:46 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fm-po_FUmvM
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; copyright means many things they cannot do
09:46 TR Bot; Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 (Official Audio) - Invidious
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; let alone say
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; crime is down, as rappers are more 'familt-friendly'
09:46 schestowitz[TR]; problem solved
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; people listen to music, kill people
09:47 schestowitz[TR]; "bowling in walmart"
09:48 TR News; "To be clear, it is not that green is gross." https://uxdesign.cc/how-apple-makes-you-think-green-bubbles-gross-e03b52b12fed | Source: UXCollective
09:48 TR Bot; One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are gross | UX Collective
09:48 TR News; "To provide the complete bouquet of video and messaging services to clients in India" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/cisco-has-cut-prices-of-webex-services-by-50-to-strengthen-its-hold-on-indian-market/94800403 | Source: India Times
09:48 TR Bot; cisco: Cisco has cut prices of WebEx services by 50% to strengthen its hold on Indian market, CIO News, ET CIO
09:49 TR News; "Ubuntu KVM an industry-leading hypervisor extends its reach to AI/ML applications and graphics-intensive applications" https://ubuntu.com//blog/nvidia-vgpu-release | Source: Ubuntu
09:49 TR Bot; works with NVIDIA and BT to unlock infrastructure scalability for data scientists, technical and creative professionals | Ubuntu
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09:52 TR News; "Tonight, the ECON and LIBE committees of the European Parliament will vote on a complete ban on anonymous [cryptocurrency] payments." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pirates-are-against-the-new-rules-on-crypto-assets-which-will-ban-anonymous-payments/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
09:52 TR Bot; Pirates are against the new rules on crypto assets which will ban anonymous payments Patrick Breyer
09:52 TR News; "Speaking recently at the Global Fintech Fests third edition, Indian Union IT Minister Ashwini Vaishnaw said that in the next few days, the Centre will be coming out with a fresh draft of the data protection bill." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/government-policy/new-data-protection-bill-draft-is-coming-6-ways-to-ensure-data-security/94793311 | Source: India Times
09:52 TR Bot; New data protection bill draft is coming: 6 ways to ensure data security, CIO News, ET CIO
09:53 TR News; "But in this newsletter, I want to share a few extra snippets from our conversation that have really stuck with me." https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/11/1061114/surveillance-states-danger-china-singapore/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
09:53 TR Bot; The complicated danger of surveillance states | MIT Technology Review
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10:07 TR News; "Documents appear to indicate that raptus refers to Chaumpaigne suddenly breaking the terms of her employment with Staundon in order to join Chaucers service instead." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/11/chaucer-wrongly-accused-rape-150-years-newly-unearthed-documents/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
10:07 TR Bot; Chaucer wrongly accused of rape for 150 years, newly unearthed documents show
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10:08 TR News; "The total stolen was $580 million" https://www.dawn.com/news/1714035/scammers-make-off-with-100m-from-crypto-firm | Source: Dawn Media
10:08 TR Bot; make off with $100m from crypto firm - World - DAWN.COM
10:09 TR News; "battery-powered bikes more than tripled during the pandemic" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/business/ebike-vanmoof-future-transportation.html | Source: New York Times
10:09 TR Bot; The E-Bike: The New Car Alternative - The New York Times
10:11 TR News; FUTOs latest grantee loosens Googles grip on your phone: introducing Marvin Wifeld of MicroG https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/futo's-latest-grantee-loosens-google's:1
10:11 TR Bot; FUTO's latest grantee loosens Google's grip on your phone: introducing Marvin Wifeld of MicroG
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10:12 DaemonFC; https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5144
10:12 TR Bot; Retrieve CVEs for systemd own bugs and log them on git-log Issue #5144 systemd/systemd GitHub
10:12 DaemonFC; Lennart Poettering calling getting CVEs something "security circus" people do.
10:12 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
10:12 DaemonFC; Have fun working at Microsoft with him.
10:13 TR News; old: Linux on the GPD Pocket 3 mini-laptop (Ubuntu 21.10 and Fedora 35)- https://www.gpd.hk/newsinfo/577810.html?templateId=21805 Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.gpd.hk/newsinfo/577810.html?templateId=21805
10:13 TR Bot; Linux on the GPD Pocket 3 mini-laptop (Ubuntu 21.10 and Fedora 35)-
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; LP is Microsoft staff
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; he works for crime
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; organised crime
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; and he profits from crime
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; systemd needs to be removed from GNU/Linux over time
10:13 schestowitz[TR]; like the "cancer" that Microsoft is
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; working bottom up would be simpler
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; but Torvalds is also besieged by other Microsoft crap
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; so Linux itself is not at risk
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; kdbus didn't make it in
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; rust did
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; rust is even worse
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; it's hard to get rust out
10:14 schestowitz[TR]; once it's there
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; systemd needs to be removed from GNU/Linux over time <- and while its removed at x rate per week
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; shit like it goes in at a faster rate
10:15 TR News; Why you should NEVER feel bad for blocking ads; Video | Google | YouTubes system sucks https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/why-you-should-never-feel-bad-for:6 10:15
10:15 TR Bot; Why you should NEVER feel bad for blocking ads; youtube's system sucks
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its a lot like political reform in the usa
10:15 TR News; faecebook in action https://boingboing.net/2022/10/12/russian-consuls-parking-spot-in-finland-has-been-unofficially-annexed-to-ukraine-and-painted-with-a-ukrainian-flag.html
10:15 TR Bot; Russian consul's parking spot in Finland has been unofficially annexed to Ukraine (and painted with a Ukrainian flag) | Boing Boing
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; people keep trying harder, never hard enough, things get worse
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; always doing just a little bit less than would actuall help
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; it might go like this
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; what tasks do I do?
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; x y z
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; sure, the people making it worse are worse than the people not making it better enough
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; do I need gnome for them?
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; no.
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; so what distro gets the job done?
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; systemd can stay in fedora
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; but fewerswill use it
10:16 schestowitz[TR]; on many pcs it takes ages to start and shutdown
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; but theyre always so conservative about fixes-- the people breaking shit are less shy about it
10:17 highest_cubist_thrills; so what distro gets the job done? <- none do, thats the point
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; devuan still sucks?
10:17 schestowitz[TR]; i tried installing it on this pc
10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan has always sucked, will always suck
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; it lacked the realtek wifi driver
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; and addding it over usb did not work
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; it's a know issue
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; I saw forum posts about it
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; reaktek issue
10:18 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan is an actual cult
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; so I cautioned people to avoid reaktek
10:18 DaemonFC; The Mac GPU driver is written in Rust.
10:18 schestowitz[TR]; what is the connection between dyne and devuan?
10:19 DaemonFC; It's better than no driver, I guess.
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; its a pseudo religious cult with a charasmatic leader
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; not roio, hes not so bad
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; roio has been nice to me
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; humble guy
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; what is the connection between dyne and devuan? <- denis roio started both. dyne is the umbrella over devuan
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; dyne is to devuan as fsf is to gnu
10:19 schestowitz[TR]; ah, ok
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; roio is (probably) innocent. its not his fault.
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; dyne in a fier- MinceR
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:20 schestowitz[TR]; *fire
10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but roio isnt blameless, its just not (significantly) his fault
10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe its all his fault-- but i doubt it.
10:20 TR News; Upcoming blog outage - Charlie's Diary http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/10/upcoming-blog-outage.html
10:20 TR Bot; Upcoming blog outage - Charlie's Diary
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; hes sort of the stallman in that picture
10:21 TR News; KDE PLASMA 5.26: Bigscreen, animated wallpapers, rebind mouse buttons... https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/kde-plasma-5.26-bigscreen,-animated:3 Source: TheLinuxExperiment
10:21 TR Bot; KDE PLASMA 5.26: Bigscreen, animated wallpapers, rebind mouse buttons...
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; dyne was originally his projects, then it expanded, then he actually incorporated (not for profit)
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; devuan came years later
10:21 schestowitz[TR]; what was dyne for and about?
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; dyne is on github now *facepalm*
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; a free software foundry
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; I saw it around the time debian was fighting over init systems
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; when systemd still pretended to bew one
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; seems mostly sympathetic to free software but sometimes says open source for whatever reason
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; dyne was the only org that wrote a pro-stallman piece during the cancellation
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; is all of their infra outsourced to microsoft?
10:22 schestowitz[TR]; or mirrors?
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; some. probably not all.
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think its just mirrors.
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; maybe some people
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; like in gnu
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; hard to say, "fuck off, no ssoup for you until you delete github"
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, but you downplay that too
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; you can entice them OFF github later... maybe
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; remember github makes no profit
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; with what
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; it's losing money
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; and bribes people with cpu cycles
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; github gains power as it loses money
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; when the microsoft layoffs accelerate further there wsill be strain
10:23 schestowitz[TR]; and they will do a codeplex
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; a bribe in the budget is not a "loss" its an expenditure
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; right, but HOW much money?
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know why you cant tell expenditures from losses.
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; and how much gain?
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; it's a cost/benefit analysis
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; right, but HOW much money? <- i mean microsoft is big
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; did you read about gitlab trying to kill off repos?
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; the "old" ones?
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; to save money?
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; and then people rioted
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; it's a cost/benefit analysis <- a good cost/benefit analysis would know the difference between losses and expenditures
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; and gitlab 'changed' its mind?
10:24 schestowitz[TR]; there is no business model
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; and then people rioted <- riots were expected.
10:25 schestowitz[TR]; even sourcehut wants money ot keep these online
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; they put snacks out for the windows refund people.
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; even sourcehut wants money ot keep these online <- yeah i dont understand how thats going to work ever.
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10:25 schestowitz[TR]; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167997#comment-34551
10:25 TR Bot; content type. Ignoring.
10:25 schestowitz[TR]; many links hwere
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; it should become read-only when you stop paying.
10:25 schestowitz[TR]; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167997
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a workable model
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; if not, its silly imo
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; tom had a better idea with p2p but he didnt seem serious enough about making it happen
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; i think he wanted to be lead while other people wrote it
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; who?
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; p2p git works poorly
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; based on what I read and someone told me years ago
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; all the more reason for an alternative.
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; after studying what's available
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; theres more to it than whats available
10:27 schestowitz[TR]; cvs could run locally quite simply
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; my associate had a better idea
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, openbsd uses cvs
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; a back to basics kid of thing
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; yes they use cvs
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; :-)
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; like
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; I used cvs a lot
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; then svn
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; svn had a short life
10:28 schestowitz[TR]; git repl;aced it in years
10:28 DaemonFC; http://0pointer.de/blog/
10:28 TR Bot; PidEins
10:28 TR News; windows tco https://www.ghacks.net/2022/10/11/microsoft-windows-security-updates-october-2022-overview/
10:28 TR Bot; Microsoft Windows Security Updates October 2022 overview - gHacks Tech News
10:29 TR News; windows tco https://therecord.media/microsoft-investigating-alleged-exchange-zero-day/
10:29 TR Bot; Microsoft investigating alleged Exchange zero-day - The Record by Recorded Future
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; cvs does certain things certain ways that work for the openbsd development workflow
10:29 DaemonFC; "I would go as far as saying that SecureBoot on Linux distributions is mostly security theater at this point, if you so will." -Lennart Poettering
10:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
10:29 DaemonFC; :)
10:29 TR News; windows tco, but spun in a foolish way https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/skybox-security-partners-with-netpoleon-to-protect-anz-attack-surfaces.html
10:29 TR Bot; - Skybox Security partners with Netpoleon to protect ANZ attack surfaces
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont want git
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10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; its a blessing
10:29 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: says Microsoft
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; they also dont like pull requests
10:30 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre cheap-- theyre not the only ones to say so
10:30 highest_cubist_thrills; pull requests invite shoddy work
10:30 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe not always, but notably
10:30 schestowitz[TR]; pull requests typically mean microsogt github
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; not PRs per se
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; theres that too
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; or MR (gitlab)
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; and github is used by "can't install git" people
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; like Ubuintu
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; african work that means
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; "can't install debian" (joke)
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; ot "can't use plain text email
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; if yuo cannot install git (it's not hard)
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; but the concept of pull requests (at least web-based ones) is something openbsd would still rail against even if it wasnt github
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; and cannot use email
10:31 schestowitz[TR]; how good can you KERNEL level C code be?
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; also i personally think gitlab is nearly unusable
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; despite having used it.
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; without js
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; even with js
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; its a fucking nightmare
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; gitlab is a program
10:32 mjg59_; Huh how could you be good at one thing if you're not also good at a completely unrelated thing
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; that's disguised as web pages
10:32 schestowitz[TR]; because some "modeern" browsers can exeecute this program
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; any time I open gitlab link it's just some line at the tpo
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; and blank page
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; so I skip to next story
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; gitlab barely exists to me
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's anti-web
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; it's partly proprietary program
10:33 schestowitz[TR]; that some browsers can "RUN"
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; i dislike gitlab a lot
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; its better than github in the most shallow and useless way imo
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; but people who need a million features are going to choose it over something more reasonable like a gitea host
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10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; and im sure there are projects that would have trouble justifying another choice
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; Ar1adn3 has someone working on gitea
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; to improve or add features to it
10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; hopefully they wont add too much js
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; gitea improvements then spread to everyone
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; we just need a good freesw option
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; gitlab ain't it
10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; js has already ruined the internet archive
10:35 schestowitz[TR]; I looked into many git options years ago
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; before settling on gemini instead
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; turned it into a shadow of its former self
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; as the web things suck
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; they need database and stuff, lots of maintenance overhead for something that should be very siumple
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; yes, IA is too JS-heavy
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; and slow
10:36 schestowitz[TR]; I assume speed is also due to having to fetch data from "deep" storage
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its been sabotaged
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; if IA becomes too much JS, then IA won't be able to archivbe IA :-)
10:37 highest_cubist_thrills; ia refuses to archive ia
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; IA should condemn use of JS
10:37 highest_cubist_thrills; it blacklists itself
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; because it stands in the way of archiving
10:37 highest_cubist_thrills; DENYlists
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; iow, javascript has perpetuated massive loss of history
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; and info
10:37 schestowitz[TR]; sites that are JS cannot be studied for their past
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; it's a way to deny transparency
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i think you exaggerate the impact of js on archives of websites... but
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; many red hat sites became like this
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; it impacts use of ia
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; several are not totally not accessible withotu propriewtary JS
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and it makes some things inaccessible
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; which is appalling
10:38 schestowitz[TR]; Red Hat!! "we're open"
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the proprietary js gets archived too
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; yes, I should ask someone blind what red hat sites give her/him
10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; but if its a problem for a website it will be a problem for the archive too
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; js is the '"new" swf
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; it'll ruin archiving
10:39 schestowitz[TR]; and destroy knowledge
10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, thanks whatfwg
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; it'll ruin archiving <- i dont think your concept of it is entirely accurate
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; a lot more works than you seem to realise
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; but it will have more than zero impact for sure
10:41 TR News; Dutch Court Rules that Being Forced to Keep a Webcam on While Working is Illegal - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/11/0146250 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/11/0146250
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; theres too much js online
10:41 TR Bot; Dutch Court Rules that Being Forced to Keep a Webcam on While Working is Illegal - SoylentNews
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; way too much
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; and too many things designed to fail with js off
10:41 TR News; Annoying paywall in Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/15cb54bd-86b0-49d8-8258-cee79b2faa4c Source: WFTV TV
10:41 TR Bot; Subscribe to read | Financial Times
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; rather than fail in a way where you can still get the information
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; but a lot of that gets archived WITH the necessary js
10:41 TR News; "Twitter reviews policies around permanent user bans"
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; even if its crap (and going without js enabled will do the same thing as it does on a non-archived, live website)
10:42 TR News; iophk: this raises a lot of questions about the assumptions regarding mail clients and suggests that .ee equates webmail with e-mail. :( https://news.err.ee/1608746020/over-a-tenth-of-snap-military-exercise-call-up-emails-went-unopened
↺ https://news.err.ee/1608746020/over-a-tenth-of-snap-military-exercise-call-up-emails-went-unopened
10:42 TR News; iophk: also many young people don't actually have an active e-mail address even when you do count webmail. https://news.err.ee/1608746020/over-a-tenth-of-snap-military-exercise-call-up-emails-went-unopened
↺ https://news.err.ee/1608746020/over-a-tenth-of-snap-military-exercise-call-up-emails-went-unopened
10:42 TR Bot; Over a tenth of snap military exercise call-up emails went unopened | News | ERR
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; dynamic stuff gets archived
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; server-side stuff gets archived
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but when theres dynamic input, dynamic client and dynamic server stuf
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; all three might not archive properly at least
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; the archive is automated
10:43 schestowitz[TR]; does anyone here have offline contacts with techuser?
10:43 schestowitz[TR]; is it the lack of electricity keeping him offline?
10:43 matteobin; No. Why?
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; not been online since I read about the bombings
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; russia took over a thousand towns out of the grids
10:44 matteobin; Yesterday was here, or at least I've seen him on other IRC net.
10:44 matteobin; When?
10:44 schestowitz[TR]; after the bridge was blown up
10:44 matteobin; Was that yesterday?
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: if you see him online somewhere, then good
10:45 schestowitz[TR]; not being able to use irc would be like death to him
10:46 TR News; (NEW): 4 Best Free and Open Source Shutdown Timers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Shutdown_Timers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Shutdown_Timers.gmi
10:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines 4 Best Free and Open Source Shutdown Timers
10:46 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Android_Leftovers.gmi
10:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
10:48 TR News; "Election Deniers" = let's equate critics of proprietary back-doored voting machines with nazis https://robertreich.org/post/697943893104312320 | Source: Robert Reich
10:48 TR Bot; Robert Reich (The Election Deniers on the Ballot: What You Need...)
10:50 TR News; Workers https://truthout.org/articles/workers-make-1-3-million-more-through-their-careers-when-theyre-in-a-union/ | Source: TruthOut
10:50 TR Bot; Workers Make $1.3 Million More Through Their Careers When Theyre in a Union
10:50 mjg59_; That article does not equate anyone with nazis
10:51 mjg59_; And "election denier" in this case is not something tightly associated with proprietary voting machines - the accusations are much broader than that
10:51 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D727.jpg
10:51 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D382.jpg
10:52 TR News; Re: What is a "unit test"? gemini://gemini.sh0.xyz/log/2022-10-12.gmi
10:52 mjg59_; It's a broad family of conspiracy theories that includes dead people voting, people who don't exist voting, ballots being duplicated, votes that didn't actually exist at all being introduced into counting, and so on
10:52 TR News; apps are (mostly) overrated gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random20
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10:53 highest_cubist_thrills; conspiracy theories that includes dead people voting, people who don't exist voting, ballots being duplicated, votes that didn't actually exist at all being introduced into counting, and so on <- things that happen during actual election fraud
10:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think biden stole the election, at least not more than any other candidate
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; during the bush "relection" entire trucks full of ballots went missing or unreported
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10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean this happens. and im sure it always does
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and its enough to nudge an election that is so damned close either way
10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but the bigger the gap the less likely it is to make a real difference
10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; and trump calling foul is laughable
10:55 TR News; Where are My Philosopher Kings? gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/the_republic.gmi
10:55 highest_cubist_thrills; its just the sort of thing he would do
10:56 TR News; "A thunderstorm rolled through and seems to have fried JUST the PoE injector" gemini://gemini.thebackupbox.net/~epoch/blog/outage-2022-10-12
10:56 highest_cubist_thrills; republicans are famous for gerrymandering and "election reforming" their way to massaged results that marginalise minorities
10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; neither side gives a damn about voters
10:57 TR News; "I've been running GrapheneOS, a custom Android OS built for privacy and security, on my Pixel 4 XL and have really been enjoying it. It's been a couple weeks now so I think it's time I share some thoughts on it." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-10-13-grapheneos.gmi
10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; they only care about winning elections
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10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; dnc had an imaginary primary in 2016
10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; cost them the general election and put trump in charge
10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; thanks, dnc
10:58 TR News; "According to my Soulver-assisted calculations, Times 2006 Person of the Year issue was released 15 years, 9 months, 2 weeks, and 3 days ago." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/
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11:00 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Which is what they've been doing in Illinois for decades.
11:00 DaemonFC; They stuffed the ballot in Chicago for Kennedy and they've been doing it since then.
11:00 DaemonFC; They'll just add as many fake votes as it takes to get Pritzker back in and then they'll pass their "crack misdemeanor" bill.
11:01 DaemonFC; In Illinois, nobody actually verifies that you are who you say you are.
11:01 DaemonFC; I could walk in, say I'm John, and vote.
11:02 DaemonFC; I mean, it would be illegal, but nobody actually says "Okay, let me see your state ID.".
11:03 DaemonFC; Then because it's almost impossible to prosecute voter fraud, they argue that this is evidence that it doesn't happen, when it's rampant.
11:04 matteobin; In Italy they ask for your ID.
11:04 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Want to know something? In the 1980s, in a single year, almost 8 million children disappeared. It happened when the IRS decided to require a Social Security Number for each child you were declaring on your income tax.
11:04 DaemonFC; <matteobin> In Italy they ask for your ID.
11:05 DaemonFC; According to the 1993 "Motor Voter" law, even states like Illinois without Voter ID have to see it the first time you register in a state and vote.
11:05 DaemonFC; But nobody ever asked to see mine.
11:05 DaemonFC; So Illinois is violating the National Voter Registration Act of 1993.
11:06 DaemonFC; I assume it's the same in most blue states.
11:06 DaemonFC; They especially want felons to vote here anyway.
11:06 DaemonFC; They're all Democrats.
11:07 DaemonFC; The Democrats promise them expungements and that next time they have a bag of crack cocaine it'll be a misdemeanor that they can plead down from.
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11:32 TR News; "Up for more melee fighting games of various sorts? The Melee Mayhem Bundle might be just what you need." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/humble-has-a-new-melee-focused-game-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:32 TR Bot; has a new melee-focused game bundle | GamingOnLinux
11:32 TR News; "After some time being in Beta, Valve has officially released the new shiny new Steam Mobile App for all" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-mobile-app-gets-a-huge-revamp-out-now-for-everyone/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:32 TR Bot; Mobile App gets a huge revamp out now for everyone | GamingOnLinux
11:33 TR News; "Kodo Linija and Paradox Arc have released Stardeus into Early Access." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/inspired-by-factorio-and-rimworld-space-colony-building-sim-stardeus-out-in-early-access/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:33 TR Bot; by Factorio and RimWorld, space colony building sim Stardeus out in Early Access | GamingOnLinux
11:36 TR News; "Early Access along with Native GNU/Linux support" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/roguelike-tactical-auto-battler-despots-game-dystopian-army-builder-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:36 TR Bot; tactical auto-battler Despot's Game: Dystopian Army Builder is out now | GamingOnLinux
11:36 TR News; "OpenRCT2 is a free and open source game engine reimplementation for RollerCoaster Tycoon 2, upgrading many parts of it and making it work well" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/rollercoaster-tycoon-2-game-engine-openrct2-gets-another-big-upgrade/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:36 TR Bot; Tycoon 2 game engine OpenRCT2 gets another big upgrade | GamingOnLinux
11:39 TR News; NVIDIA 520.56.06 driver adds easier NVIDIA NGX updates for Wine / Proton http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/12/NVIDIA_520_56_06_Graphics_Driver_Brings_Support_for_OTA_Updates.shtml
11:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines NVIDIA 520.56.06 Graphics Driver Brings Support for OTA Updates in Proton and Wine
11:39 TR News; "The developer of a nicely reviewed metroidvania called A Robot Named Fight! has released the source code, hoping that others can learn from it" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/a-robot-named-fight-source-code-released/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:39 TR News; "Now that the Steam Deck is available without reservation, and the official Steam Deck Docking Station has released" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/a-lot-of-people-were-clearly-waiting-on-the-official-steam-deck-docking-station/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:39 TR Bot; Robot Named Fight! source code released | GamingOnLinux
11:39 TR Bot; lot of people were clearly waiting on the official Steam Deck Docking Station | GamingOnLinux
11:40 TR News; "Recently I mentioned the new Steam Deck Repo website, allowing people to upload and download custom Steam Deck Boot Videos" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-boot-videos-get-an-easy-app-plus-videos-coming-to-the-points-shop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:40 TR Bot; Deck Boot Videos get an easy app, plus videos coming to the Points Shop | GamingOnLinux
11:43 TR News; (NEW): Games: Humble, Steam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Games_Humble_Steam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Games_Humble_Steam_and_More.gmi
11:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Humble, Steam, and More
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11:57 TR News; "Hardkernel recently introduced the ODROID-H3 and H3+ SBCs as successors of the ODROID-H2+ board released a couple years ago." https://linuxgizmos.com/odroid-sbcs-pack-intel-jasper-lake-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
11:57 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/odroid-sbcs-pack-intel-jasper-lake-processors/ )
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12:03 TR News; "Source code must be compiled in order to run, and in open source software everyone has access to source code." https://opensource.com/article/22/10/compiling-code | Source: OpenSource.com
12:03 TR Bot; you need to know about compiling code | Opensource.com
12:04 TR News; "Asynchronous programming: Incredibly useful but difficult to learn. You can't avoid async programming to create a fast and reactive application." https://opensource.com/article/22/10/asynchronous-programming-rust | Source: OpenSource.com
12:04 TR Bot; programming in Rust | Opensource.com
12:16 TR News; "Tonight, the EU Parliaments Home Affairs Committee (LIBE) will vote on amendments to the envisaged European Digital Identity and digital wallet, calling for far-reaching changes to the Commissions proposal." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/european-digital-identity-eu-parliament-wants-decentralized-data-storage-and-right-to-anonymity/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
12:16 TR Bot; European Digital Identity: EU Parliament wants decentralized data storage and right to anonymity Patrick Breyer
12:17 TR News; Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA) https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3685402-court-blocks-texas-social-media-law-from-taking-effect/ | Source: The Hill
12:17 TR Bot; Court blocks Texas social media law from taking effect | The Hill
12:17 TR News; "The United Nations E-Government Survey 2022 is the 12th edition of the United Nations assessment of the digital government" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/nifo-national-interoperability-framework-observatory/news/united-nations-e-government-survey-out | Source: Joinup
12:17 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/nifo-national-interoperability-framework-observatory/news/united-nations-e-government-survey-out )
12:18 TR News; "This edition of the Survey includes data analysis in global and regional contexts, a study of local e-government development" https://desapublications.un.org/publications/un-e-government-survey-2022 |
12:18 TR Bot; UN E-Government Survey 2022 | UN DESA Publications
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:26 TR News; "Why it matters: The move signifies TikTok's commitment to e-commerce as its next major revenue stream" https://www.axios.com/2022/10/11/tiktok-chases-amazon-fulfillment-centers | Source: Axios
12:26 TR Bot; TikTok chases Amazon with plans for U.S. fulfillment centers
12:37 TR News; "Unsubstantiated rumors and outright falsehoods spread widely in immigrant communities ahead of the presidential election" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/business/media/midterms-foreign-language-misinformation.html | Source: New York Times
12:37 TR Bot; Misinformation Swirls in Non-English Languages Ahead of Midterms - The New York Times
12:37 TR News; "Google has added former President Trumps Truth Social app to its Google Play Store after a holdup over its content moderation plans" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3685750-google-adds-trumps-truth-social-to-play-store-after-holdup/ | Source: The Hill
12:37 TR Bot; Google adds Trumps Truth Social to Play Store after holdup | The Hill
12:38 TR News; "Judge Virginia DeMarchi found that Facebook couldnt have defamed Stossel" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/facebook-topples-john-stossels-defamation-suit-1235240341/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
12:38 TR Bot; Facebook Topples John Stossels Defamation Suit Over Fact-Checking The Hollywood Reporter
12:38 TR News; "More than ever, the spotlight is on the so-called fake news problem and the real-world consequences it can have." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63222819 | Source: BBC
12:38 TR Bot; US midterm elections: Does Finland have the answer to fake news? - BBC News
12:39 TR News; "Misinformation is harmful to society and should not be tolerated. However, creating rules that permit a single body to determine what constitutes information and what constitutes truth is inappropriate." https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/3683460-paypal-just-gave-america-an-eerie-glimpse-into-the-future-theres-no-going-back/ | Source: The Hill
12:39 TR Bot; PayPal just gave America an eerie glimpse into the future. Theres no going back | The Hill
12:40 TR News; "What he found when he went online was astounding" https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2022/oct/06/the-censor-cannot-hold-the-pressure-of-controlling-chinas-hidden-internet-content-2505395.html | Source: New Indian Express
12:40 TR Bot; The censor cannot hold: the pressure of controlling China's hidden internet content- The New Indian Express
12:41 TR News; "The move marks an escalation of the Great Firewalls censorship ahead of the party congress expected to extend President Xi Jinpings term in power" https://www.scmp.com/tech/policy/article/3195045/china-blocks-internet-anticensorship-tools-ahead-20th-party-congress | Source: SCMP
12:41 TR Bot; China blocks internet anticensorship tools ahead of 20th party congress as the Great Firewall grows in sophistication | South China Morning Post
12:42 TR News; "more than half of Chinas netizens who circumvent online censorship" https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/05/china-censorship-vpn-ban-party-congress/ | Source: TechCrunch
12:42 TR Bot; censorship circumvention tools face fresh blockade by China TechCrunch
12:42 TR News; US censorship: we just plot to torture and assassinate journalists inside embassies in London for exposing our crimes.
12:43 TR News; "Pakistan, with 15,351,388 videos removed for violating Community Guidelines, ranked second in the world for the largest volume of videos taken down in Q2 2022." https://www.dawn.com/news/1714043/tiktok-deletes-154m-videos-from-pakistan | Source: Dawn Media
12:43 TR Bot; deletes 15.4m videos from Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
12:43 TR News; "Twitter has been exploring if there are other content moderation tools that could replace a ban" https://www.dawn.com/news/1714648/twitter-reviews-policies-around-permanent-user-bans | Source: Dawn Media
12:43 TR Bot; reviews policies around permanent user bans - Business - DAWN.COM
12:44 TR News; Twitter is irrelevant. It goes down the drain rapidly, even more rapidly since the vulture attack by Larrison, Musk, and the Saudis
12:45 TR News; Twitter is about information control and manipulation thereof, NOT communication
12:47 TR News; "The reason, of course, is copyright, because Amazon only has the rights to use The Lord of the Rings books" https://walledculture.org/how-copyright-absurdity-rules-over-j-r-r-tolkiens-the-rings-of-power/ | Source: Walled Culture
12:47 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/how-copyright-absurdity-rules-over-j-r-r-tolkiens-the-rings-of-power/ )
12:47 TR News; Copyrights of "Prince" and TM https://text.npr.org/1127508725 | Source: NPR
12:47 TR Bot; The Supreme Court meets Andy Warhol, Prince and a case that could threaten creativity
12:48 TR News; Boycott Starbucks https://truthout.org/articles/starbucks-kept-list-of-pro-union-employees-to-punish-ex-manager-says/ | Source: TruthOut
12:48 TR Bot; Starbucks Kept List of Pro-Union Employees to Punish, Ex-Manager Says
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12:54 TR News; "Heres a refresher how the lawmakers we elect are supposed to make laws." https://www.propublica.org/article/who-is-my-member-of-congress-heres-how-to-find-out-what-your-reps-have-been-up-to Pro Publica: we take bribes from Bill Gates to help him BUY laws
12:54 TR Bot; Who Is My Member of Congress & What Do They Do? ProPublica
12:54 TR News; "How do we regulate an information utility?" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/12/big-tech-not-only-market-but-also-knowledge-and-information-gatekeepers/ | Source: Scheerpost
12:54 TR Bot; Tech: Not Only Market but Also Knowledge and Information Gatekeepers - scheerpost.com
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13:01 TR News; [New] Fractal Images: - Mandelbrot 0000H gemini://gem.librehacker.com/fractals/mandelbrot/mand0000.png
13:02 MinceR; 13 111913 < highest_cubist_thrills> not roio, hes not so bad
13:03 MinceR; who's the leader then?
13:03 TR News; (NEW): [Debian] bits from the release team: are you ready to skate yet? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/_Debian_bits_from_the_release_team_are_you_ready_to_skate_yet.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/_Debian_bits_from_the_release_team_are_you_ready_to_skate_yet.gmi
13:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines [Debian] bits from the release team: are you ready to skate yet?
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: I was gonna ask the same
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13:06 TR News; (NEW): KDE Gear 22.08.2 Adds 7-Zip and Samba 4.16 or Later Compatibility, Many Bug Fixes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/KDE_Gear_22_08_2_Adds_7_Zip_and_Samba_4_16_or_Later_Compatibili.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/KDE_Gear_22_08_2_Adds_7_Zip_and_Samba_4_16_or_Later_Compatibili.gmi
13:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Gear 22.08.2 Adds 7-Zip and Samba 4.16 or Later Compatibility, Many Bug Fixes
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13:20 TR News; new
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13:31 MinceR; maybe joerg, who apparently sides with the SJWs who tried to cancel RMS and are in charge of parts of illibera
13:33 MinceR; then again, i suppose a project that doesn't do anything anymore doesn't really need leaders anyway
13:34 TR News; "Save the Children" is highly corrupt. I'm surprised it is cited here. https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/12/1-in-3-of-worlds-poorest-countries-spend-more-on-debt-repayments-than-education/ | Source: Scheerpost
13:34 TR Bot; in 3 of World's Poorest Countries Spend More on Debt Repayments Than Education - scheerpost.com
13:36 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/today_s_howtos.gmi
13:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
13:36 TR News; (NEW): LibreOffice 7.4.2 Office Suite Released with 80 Bug Fixes, Download Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/LibreOffice_7_4_2_Office_Suite_Released_with_80_Bug_Fixes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/LibreOffice_7_4_2_Office_Suite_Released_with_80_Bug_Fixes.gmi
13:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreOffice 7.4.2 Office Suite Released with 80 Bug Fixes, Download Now
13:38 TR News; (NEW): Devices: RISC-V, OLinuXino, Raspberry Pi, and ODROID http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Devices_RISC_V_OLinuXino_Raspberry_Pi_and_ODROID.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Devices_RISC_V_OLinuXino_Raspberry_Pi_and_ODROID.gmi
13:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Devices: RISC-V, OLinuXino, Raspberry Pi, and ODROID
13:43 TR News; Seems like a fictional number, politically motivated https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/12/far-right-conspiracy-grifter-alex-jones-hit-nearly-1-billion-damages-sandy-hook-lies | Source: Common Dreams
13:43 TR Bot; Far-Right Conspiracy Grifter Alex Jones Hit With Nearly $1 Billion in Damages for Sandy Hook Lies
13:45 TR News; Overflowing with Colours gemini://thurk.org/blog/582.gmi
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13:58 TR News; Poor Hit Hardest https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/12/poor-hit-hardest-maternity-care-deserts-grow-across-us | Source: Common Dreams
13:58 TR Bot; Poor Hit Hardest as 'Maternity Care Deserts' Grow Across US
14:00 TR News; Rotten "Apple has been busy adding new features [sic] to its smart [sic] phone and smart [sic] watch offerings." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/12/rollercoasters-are-triggering-the-iphones-crash-detection-system/ | Source: Hackaday
14:00 TR Bot; Are Triggering The IPhones Crash Detection System | Hackaday
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14:00 TR News; (NEW): Vecow launches NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin-based EAC-5000 Series Edge AI computing system http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Vecow_launches_NVIDIA_Jetson_AGX_Orin_based_EAC_5000_Series_Edg.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Vecow_launches_NVIDIA_Jetson_AGX_Orin_based_EAC_5000_Series_Edg.gmi
14:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Vecow launches NVIDIA Jetson AGX Orin-based EAC-5000 Series Edge AI computing system
14:00 MinceR; https://apina.biz/191931.jpeg?mode=sfw
14:00 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/191931.jpeg
14:00 schestowitz[TR]; sfw btw
14:00 MinceR; attack surface btw
14:01 matteobin; New version of dwm: 6.4 https://dwm.suckless.org/
14:01 TR News; Dodecahedron https://hackaday.com/2022/10/12/this-infinity-dodecahedron-build-shows-all-the-tricks/ | Source: Hackaday
14:01 TR Bot; dwm - dynamic window manager | suckless.org software that sucks less
14:01 TR Bot; Infinity Dodecahedron Build Shows All The Tricks | Hackaday
14:01 matteobin; dmenu, ii, sic, slock, st and tabbed were update too.
14:01 matteobin; *updated
14:10 TR News; (NEW): KDE Crash Tracking System http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/KDE_Crash_Tracking_System.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/KDE_Crash_Tracking_System.gmi
14:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Crash Tracking System
14:10 TR News; (NEW): Release of LibreOffice 7.4.2 Community http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Release_of_LibreOffice_7_4_2_Community.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Release_of_LibreOffice_7_4_2_Community.gmi
14:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Release of LibreOffice 7.4.2 Community
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:21 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/pqAYJEf
14:21 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/pqAYJEf )
14:23 TR News; "Over the last several years, theres been a trend towards designing ever more complex and powerful electronic event badges." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/12/the-2022-supercon-badge-is-a-handheld-trip-through-computing-history/ | Source: Hackaday
14:23 TR Bot; 2022 Supercon Badge Is A Handheld Trip Through Computing History | Hackaday
14:23 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
14:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
14:30 TR News; Corona https://hackaday.com/2022/10/12/enjoy-the-beauty-of-corona-discharge-with-this-kirlian-photography-setup/ | Source: Hackaday
14:30 TR Bot; The Beauty Of Corona Discharge With This Kirlian Photography Setup | Hackaday
14:31 TR News; Whistleblower https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/12/medicare_advantage_program_healthcare_providers_unitedhealth | Source: Democracy Now
14:31 TR Bot; Health Insurance Whistleblower: Medicare Advantage Is Heist by Private Firms to Defraud the Public | Democracy Now!
14:32 TR News; Hungary's Transparency https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/12/dk-has-barely-answered-telexs-questions-for-months-they-now-say-they-will-look-into-it | Source: Telex (Hungary)
14:32 TR Bot; Telex: Hungary's biggest opposition party has ignored Telex's questions for months they now say they will look into it
14:35 TR News; "The Motion Picture Association has provided a fresh overview of global pirate site-blocking efforts, which now span over 20,000 sites." https://torrentfreak.com/more-than-20000-pirate-sites-are-blocked-by-isps-around-the-globe-221012/ | Source: Torrent Freak
↺ https://torrentfreak.com/more-than-20000-pirate-sites-are-blocked-by-isps-around-the-globe-221012/
14:35 TR Bot; Than 20,000 Pirate Sites Are Blocked By ISPs Around the Globe * TorrentFreak
14:35 TR News; "People searching for movies on pirate streaming sites are regularly presented with 'interesting' offers." https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-streaming-site-punishes-movie-fans-with-free-festival-tickets-221012/ | Source: Torrent Freak
14:35 TR Bot; Streaming Site Punishes Movie Fans With Free Festival Tickets * TorrentFreak
14:38 TR News; New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.4 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1154/ | Source: Tor
14:38 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.4 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
14:39 TR News; "SLA 3D printing with resin typically means rinsing parts with IPA (isopropyl alcohol)." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/12/toilet-paper-tube-pulls-dissolved-resin-from-ipa-cures-it-for-disposal/ | Source: Hackaday
14:39 TR Bot; Paper Tube Pulls Dissolved Resin From IPA, Cures It For Disposal | Hackaday
14:41 TR News; "Past debt-limit brinksmanship resulted in the first-ever downgrade of the U.S. credit rating and cost the country billions of dollars" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/12/house-dems-slam-economically-catastrophic-gop-ploy-gut-social-security-and-medicare | Source: Common Dreams
14:41 TR Bot; House Dems Slam 'Economically Catastrophic' GOP Ploy to Gut Social Security and Medicare
14:46 TR News; "It is the time of year when a lot of people in certain parts of the world carve pumpkins." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/12/watermelon-cnc-uses-lazy-susan/ | Source: Hackaday
14:46 TR Bot; CNC Uses Lazy Susan | Hackaday
14:47 TR News; Massive Leak of Military Docs https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/12/mexico_military_drug_cartels_ayotzinapa_ministry | Source: Democracy Now
14:47 TR Bot; Massive Leak of Military Docs Reveals Mexico Armed Cartels, Surveilled Journalists & Zapatistas | Democracy Now!
14:53 TR News; "hegemony" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/12/beware-destructive-force-shareholder-hegemony | Source: Common Dreams
14:53 TR Bot; Opinion | Beware the Destructive Force of Shareholder Hegemony | Jim Hightower
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 185.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 126.50
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14:59 TR News; Zuckerberg falling... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/employees-reveal-zuckerbergs-metaverse-vision-is-a-clunky-boring-ego-driven-mess/ | Source: Techdirt
14:59 TR Bot; Reveal Zuckerbergs Metaverse Vision Is A Clunky, Boring, Ego-Driven Mess | Techdirt
15:00 TR News; NSA https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/bidens-executive-order-on-surveillance-doesnt-do-nearly-enough-to-protect-privacy-playing-word-games-doesnt-actually-limit-nsa-surveillance/ | Source: Techdirt
15:00 TR Bot; Executive Order On Surveillance Doesnt Do Nearly Enough To Protect Privacy; Playing Word Games Doesnt Actually Limit NSA Surveillance | Techdirt
15:01 TR News; "Buckle in, because there are essentially two ways to write this post but both of them start off the same way." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/valve-briefly-accidentally-shows-off-steam-decks-useful-ability-to-use-emulators/ | Source: Techdirt
15:01 TR Bot; Briefly (Accidentally?) Shows Off Steam Decks Useful Ability To Use Emulators | Techdirt
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15:01 TR News; "Far Right Supreme Court"? Far right? REALLY? All of them? BS. https://truthout.org/articles/far-right-supreme-court-justices-reject-appeal-of-man-condemned-by-racist-jurors/ | Source: TruthOut
15:01 TR Bot; Far Right Supreme Court Justices Reject Appeal of Man Condemned by Racist Jurors
15:02 MinceR; "fascist" would be more accurate
15:02 MinceR; and only the majority matters since the vote of the majority decides what their verdict is
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15:02 TR News; "Walled Culture" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/techdirt-podcast-episode-333-walled-culture/ | Source: Techdirt
15:02 TR Bot; Podcast Episode 333: Walled Culture | Techdirt
15:02 TR News; Ed Sheeran https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/ed-sheeran-just-cant-get-away-from-ridiculous-copyright-lawsuits/ | Source: Techdirt
15:02 TR Bot; Sheeran Just Cant Get Away From Ridiculous Copyright Lawsuits | Techdirt
15:03 XRevan86; https://process-one.net/blog/matrix-protocol-added-to-ejabberd/
15:03 TR Bot; Matrix protocol added to ejabberd / ProcessOne
15:03 XRevan86; I think I will become a Matrix user just like that.
15:04 TR News; Amazon Labor Union https://truthout.org/articles/california-amazon-workers-file-to-join-amazon-labor-union/ | Source: TruthOut
15:04 TR Bot; California Amazon Workers File to Join Amazon Labor Union
15:05 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu Budgie 22.10 Kinetic Kudu: Top New Features http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Ubuntu_Budgie_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu_Top_New_Features.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Ubuntu_Budgie_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu_Top_New_Features.gmi
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15:05 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu Budgie 22.10 Kinetic Kudu: Top New Features
15:06 TR News; "You may recall that, back in 2016, a lawsuit was filed against the US federal judiciary and how it charges for PACER." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/us-federal-courts-agree-to-refund-fees-they-overcharged-people-for-access-to-pacer/ | Source: Techdirt
15:07 TR Bot; Federal Courts Agree To Refund Fees They Overcharged People For Access To PACER | Techdirt
15:08 TR News; "Thepublic domainis the natural state of creative material. Its where creations end up once copyrights monopoly has expired." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/french-parliament-wants-to-make-people-pay-a-license-fee-to-use-public-domain-works/ | Source: Techdirt
15:08 TR Bot; Parliament Wants To Make People Pay A License Fee To Use Public Domain Works | Techdirt
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15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:24 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
15:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
15:24 TR News; (NEW): Free Software: Tor Browser 11.5.4, Software Heritage, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Free_Software_Tor_Browser_11_5_4_Software_Heritage_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Free_Software_Tor_Browser_11_5_4_Software_Heritage_and_More.gmi
15:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software: Tor Browser 11.5.4, Software Heritage, and More
15:24 TR News; (NEW): today's leftover http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/today_s_leftover.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/today_s_leftover.gmi
15:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftover
15:25 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/13/irc-log-121022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/13/irc-log-121022/
15:25 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Techrights
15:25 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/13/irc-log-121022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/13/irc-log-121022/
15:26 TR News; Links 13/10/2022: LibreOffice 7.4.2 is Out, KDE Gear 22.08.2, Debian 14 Gets Codename | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/13/debian-14-gets-codename/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/13/debian-14-gets-codename/
15:26 TR Bot; Links 13/10/2022: LibreOffice 7.4.2 is Out, KDE Gear 22.08.2, Debian 14 Gets Codename | Techrights
15:39 TR News; Jim Zemlin: we should be more like Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/
15:39 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights
15:41 TR News; "We are happy to announce that a new Qt for Android Automotive is released, based on Qt 6.4." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-android-automotive-6.4-is-released
15:41 TR Bot; Qt for Android Automotive 6.4 is released
15:42 TR News; "Although I've never been a desktop environment user, I do often get to try them out when I'm testing out different Linux distros. And I've noticed that recently, GNOME has become a very good desktop environment, even without extensions. But I do prefer a more traditional workflow, so I would install these extensions if I used GNOME full-time." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JtXptDCaP-c
15:42 TR Bot; Top 5 GNOME Extensions for a Traditional Workflow - Invidious
15:48 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL 15 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.gmi
15:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL 15
15:52 TR News; Microsoft: unacceptably high TCO, breaches guaranteed https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/ms-enterprise-app-management-service-rce-cve-2022-35841/
15:52 TR Bot; MS Enterprise app management service RCE. CVE-2022-35841 | Pen Test Partners
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15:53 TR News; To a lot of people Windows is a first OS, sort of like a toy your parents buy you before you get the "Real Thing"
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15:54 TR News; But do you want (or NEED) WINDOWS? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QL03jlmRXmo
15:54 TR Bot; When you want .debs on Windows... - Invidious
15:57 TR News; "In this video I compare browser synchronization between Firefox, Google Chrome, and Brave browser." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=R0GmEDTJ4Sw
15:57 TR Bot; The Best Browser Synchronization - Invidious
15:58 TR News; GNU/Linux distro from Oman, Kodachi 8.26, is out https://www.digi77.com/linux-kodachi/
15:58 TR Bot; Linux Kodachi 8.26 The Secure OS | Eagle Eye | Nonprofit Organization
16:00 TR News; EuroLinux 8.7-beta is out today https://en.euro-linux.com/eurolinux/what-is/ based on ICBM RHEL
16:00 TR Bot; What is EuroLinux?
16:03 TR News; (NEW): Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.shtml Something a hopeless company with no business modem would do (_short-term_ business model: sell out to Microsoft)
16:03 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog
16:11 TR News; New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10% https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/test-positivity-rate-soars/
16:11 TR Bot; Blog Archive New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10%
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:40 TR News; Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-septembers/
16:40 TR Bot; Blog Archive Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020)
16:47 TR News; Ewww! All suggestions they offer here, sans one, are PROPRIETARY https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-alternatives-to-microsoft-powerpoint-online-and-offline/
16:47 TR Bot; 8 Alternatives to Microsoft PowerPoint You Need to Try - Make Tech Easier
16:47 TR News; BSD Now 476: Warren Toomey interview <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="The BSD Now Podcast" href="https://www.bsdnow.tv/476">Read on</a>
16:47 TR Bot; BSD Now 476: Warren Toomey interview
16:48 TR News; "In this special episode, we interview Warren Toomey from the Unix Historical Society. We chat about his involvement in preserving old Unix systems and why that is important." https://www.bsdnow.tv/476
16:48 TR News; ICBM adds ... ADS.. to Fedora project. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/das-keyboard-fedora-giveaways/
16:48 TR Bot; Das Keyboard & Fedora: GIVEAWAYS! Fedora Community Blog
16:50 TR News; Fedora volunteer: will work for ICBM for keycaps and panda NFTs. Slavery is Freedom.
16:51 TR News; Why Kali Linux is the go-to distribution for penetration testing https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/feature/Why-Kali-Linux-is-the-go-to-distribution-for-penetration-testing Source: TechTarget | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/feature/Why-Kali-Linux-is-the-go-to-distribution-for-penetration-testing
16:51 TR Bot; Why Kali Linux is the go-to distribution for penetration testing
16:52 TR News; Classic FUD. Microsoft propaganda site blames "GoLang" and warns about "Linux" because someone wrote some malware and GoLang and tries to trick people into installing it. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-alchimist-attack-framework-targets-windows-macos-linux/
16:52 TR Bot; New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, Linux
16:53 TR News; Microsoft is trying to shamelessly twist cross-platform compatibility as an undesirable thing and security nightmare.
16:54 TR News; Microsoft is where you go when you wish the brain to stop working.
16:55 TR News; You also know that Microsoft is where you commit crimes without getting arrested because you see how much crime the co-founder keeps getting away with, as does the company. Impunity Inc.
16:59 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: BSD Now, Browser Synchronization, TLLTS, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Shows_and_Videos_BSD_Now_Browser_Synchronization_TLLTS_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Shows_and_Videos_BSD_Now_Browser_Synchronization_TLLTS_and_More.gmi
16:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: BSD Now, Browser Synchronization, TLLTS, and More
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 169.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 120.88
16:59 TR News; SpellBinding: ACDEFIP Wordo: DUNGS gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/new.gmi
17:02 TR News; Lost in buzzwordsland again. Everything is clown HEY HI metaverse HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/the-recent-impact-of-ai-on-jobs-and-economies.html
17:02 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Recent Impact of AI on Jobs and Economies
17:03 TR News; Just call it a day and call every computer a "HEY HI". And since all servers are now "clowns" and all software is "app" maybe we can teach the toddlers how to program at age 2.
17:09 TR News; Surveillance is always a net negative. Owing to monkeypox we now know that many Western regimes maintain databases or registries of gay people. Wait till those "lists" will fall into the hands of future authoritarian regimes.
17:11 TR News; "Given its flexibility and ease of modification, institutions like Pasadenas Jet Propulsion Laboratory use Linux widely. One of its most recent applications is NASAs Ingenuity drone on Mars, which was powered by Linux." https://www.pasadenanow.com/main/one-of-oldest-linux-users-group-in-la-area-to-discuss-open-source-jpl-projects-thursday-night
17:11 TR Bot; One of Oldest Linux Users Group in LA Area to Discuss Open Source JPL Projects Thursday Night Pasadena Now
17:12 TR News; >Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda: "With the elections in Victoria just 44 days away, the media in the state are keen to step up to the plate and maximise their earnings. Ads roll in at election time, given that the parties in the fray have plenty of money to throw around." https://itwire.com/open-sauce/the-age-independent-always-nope,-a-little-biased-now-and-then.html
17:12 TR Bot; - The Age: Independent Always? Nope, a little biased now and then
17:12 TR News; Elizabeth Mattijsen: Don't fear the grepper! (1) https://dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-1-1k3e
17:12 TR Bot; Don't fear the grepper! (1) - DEV Community
17:13 TR News; It's time to rak! (Part 1) - DEV Community https://dev.to/lizmat/its-time-to-rak-part-1-30ji Source: XDA | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dev.to/lizmat/its-time-to-rak-part-1-30ji
17:13 TR Bot; It's time to rak! (Part 1) - DEV Community
17:15 TR News; Digital dictatorship: authoritarian tactics and resistance in EECA https://www.accessnow.org/digital-dictatorship-and-resistance-in-eastern-europe-and-central-asia/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/digital-dictatorship-and-resistance-in-eastern-europe-and-central-asia/
17:15 TR Bot; Digital dictatorship: authoritarian tactics and resistance in EECA
17:15 TR News; Resisting the rise of digital dictatorship in Eastern Europe and Central Asia - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/resisting-digital-dictatorship-eastern-europe-central-asia/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/resisting-digital-dictatorship-eastern-europe-central-asia/
17:15 TR Bot; Resisting the rise of digital dictatorship in Eastern Europe and Central Asia - Access Now
17:16 MinceR; it's a bit late to "resist the rise" of that now, isn't it?
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17:16 TR News; Putin has conducted a referendum on his age. 99.1% agreed he is 60 years old.
17:16 MinceR; :>
17:17 TR News; China (loongarch) 'digs' Linux https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=95b8b5953a315081eadbadf49200e57d7e05aae7
17:17 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
17:18 TR News; "Linux" diplomas mills again. This time not the one operated by Jim Epstein-Gates Zemlin and Sheela Microsoft. https://www.prunderground.com/learnologyworld-launches-discounted-pricing-for-lpic-exam-vouchers/00278176/
17:18 TR Bot; Launches Discounted Pricing for LPIC Exam Vouchers | PRUnderground
17:20 TR News; zemlin fraud http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/zemlin-family-running-scams/ http://techrights.org/2022/08/24/bakkt-scam/ http://techrights.org/2022/09/18/lf-conflict-of-interest/ http://techrights.org/2022/08/28/linux-foundation-revenue-plunges/ http://techrights.org/2022/09/04/jim-zemlin-salary/ http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/microsoft-breadwinner/
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:20 TR Bot; Sheela Microsoft (Jim Zemlins Wife) Downplayed Volatility Just Weeks Before the Cryptocurrencies Pyramid Schemes Collapsed (Thats Her Business at Bakkt!) | Techrights
17:20 TR Bot; Jim Zemlins Wife (at Bakkt) Seems to be Running a Pyramid Scheme or a Scam, Preying on Gullible People | Techrights
17:20 TR Bot; After Jim Zemlin Told Us We Should Respect Microsoft | Techrights
17:20 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Revenue Plunges ($18,000,000 Decrease in One Year) and Jim Zemlins Wife Has Her Company Sued for Securities Fraud (Class Action) | Techrights
17:20 TR Bot; Its Over 900,000! (Jim Zemlins Salary Soared to $1.15 Million in 2019) | Techrights
17:20 TR Bot; Who Brings Home the Bacon (Revenue), Sheela or James (Jim)? | Techrights
17:21 TR News; Jim Zemlin: if you think I'm a fraud, haha, then you should see what my wife is doing. (not a real quote)
17:22 TR News; iTWire - Signal to remove support for SMS messages in Android app https://itwire.com/your-it/apps/signal-to-remove-support-for-sms-messages-in-android-app.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/your-it/apps/signal-to-remove-support-for-sms-messages-in-android-app.html
17:22 TR Bot; - Signal to remove support for SMS messages in Android app
17:23 TR News; This handy machine automatically cuts plastic gears | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/13/this-handy-machine-automatically-cuts-plastic-gears/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/13/this-handy-machine-automatically-cuts-plastic-gears/
17:23 TR Bot; This handy machine automatically cuts plastic gears | Arduino Blog
17:24 TR News; You too would run away and go into hiding if your wardrobe was this full of skulls and skeletons https://techrights.org/2021/12/06/jim-zemlin-cancels-himself/ http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/the-bakkt-pyramid-scheme/ http://techrights.org/2019/08/14/linux-foundation-chief/
17:24 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin Has Deleted All of His Tweets | Techrights
17:24 TR Bot; Sheela Zemlins Company Has Hit All-Time Low, Lost More Than 90% of Market Value in Only Months | Techrights
17:24 TR Bot; Wrong Person in Charge of the Linux Foundation (and in Charge of Linus Torvalds) | Techrights
17:24 TR News; The interactive map highlights regional air pollution | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/13/the-interactive-map-highlights-regional-air-pollution/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/13/the-interactive-map-highlights-regional-air-pollution/
17:24 TR Bot; The interactive map highlights regional air pollution | Arduino Blog
17:27 TR News; "I would go as far as saying that SecureBoot on Linux distributions is mostly security theater at this point, if you so will." -Microsoft's Lennart Poettering https://0pointer.net/blog/fitting-everything-together.html http://techrights.org/2022/07/29/richard-hughes-secure-boot-sham/
17:27 TR Bot; Fitting Everything Together
17:27 TR Bot; GNOME (IBM/Red Hat Staff) Promoting Microsofts Security Scam With the Secure Boot Sham | Techrights
17:30 TR News; (NEW): Security: Linux and FUD http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Security_Linux_and_FUD.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Security_Linux_and_FUD.gmi
17:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: Linux and FUD
17:30 MinceR; https://apina.biz/191899.jpg?mode=sfw
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17:34 TR News; LIE: "The best thing Google ever did for Chrome OS is to allow users to install Linux apps via the Chrome OS Linux container system. Before the container system, installing alternative web browsers on a Chromebook was impossible." https://www.addictivetips.com/chromebook/how-to-use-alternate-browsers-on-your-chromebook/
17:34 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/chromebook/how-to-use-alternate-browsers-on-your-chromebook/ )
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17:36 MinceR; (no audio) https://apina.biz/191819.mp4?mode=sfw
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17:41 TR News; "ubuntu" is a Swahili word that means "Debian with ads" (and Microsoft)
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17:43 TR News; How music platform Corite is turning true fans into digital street teams - Walled Culture https://walledculture.org/how-music-platform-corite-is-turning-true-fans-into-digital-street-teams/
17:43 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/how-music-platform-corite-is-turning-true-fans-into-digital-street-teams/ )
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17:45 TR News; Tech utopia or dumb state of technofascists on pentagon 'VC' (graft'? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/digital-license-plates.html "solution without a problem."
17:45 TR Bot; License Plates - Schneier on Security
17:46 TR News; California: where even sex has become gadgets
17:46 starstreak; XRevan86, [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -a
17:46 starstreak; Linux archbtw 6.0.1-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed, 12 Oct 2022 18:28:09 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
17:47 starstreak; i use linucks 6.0.1 btw
17:48 *MinceR is tempted to develop an online service that generates a new version of an OS every second and makes it available for download
17:50 TR News; (NEW): EuroLinux 8.7 beta released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/EuroLinux_8_7_beta_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/EuroLinux_8_7_beta_released.gmi
17:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines EuroLinux 8.7 beta released
17:52 TR News; ICBM Red Hat outsourcing to Microsoft ProprietaryPrison(TM), GitHub https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/13/how-deploy-jboss-eap-applications-openshift-pipelines
17:52 TR Bot; How to deploy JBoss EAP applications with OpenShift Pipelines | Red Hat Developer
17:52 TR News; Maybe all Red Hat staff that knows how to -- GASP -- install Git has left the building already?
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: barely stable
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; yet
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; a gamble
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; but you don't run prod machines
17:53 starstreak; my production machine uses 5.15
17:54 starstreak; centos stream 9
17:54 TR News; Graft https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/11/california_digital_license_plates/
17:54 TR Bot; California legalizes digital license plates for all vehicles The Register
17:54 schestowitz[TR]; icbm has turned the centos brand into a smreamy pile of ***
17:55 schestowitz[TR]; *streamy
17:55 starstreak; apt-get install a-real-os
17:56 starstreak; is my personal laptop a "production machine"?
17:56 TR News; FEX 2210 Tagged! https://fex-emu.com/FEX-2210/
17:56 TR Bot; 2210 Tagged! FEX-Emu A fast linux usermode x86 and x86-64 emulator
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17:56 MinceR; centos was trash before dehomag bought rh
17:58 MinceR; centos was forcing systemd on users in 2014; dehomag announced its intent to acquire ratcrap in 2018
17:58 TR News; Release of Picolibc Version 1.7.2 https://keithp.com/cgit/picolibc.git/commit/?id=b92edfda8ac6853772d87cadaeeeaa21b78609b6
17:58 TR Bot; picolibc.git - newlib C library with stdio from avr libc
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; funnyt that. the years
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft planned to buy github in 2014
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; but bought it in 2018
18:00 starstreak; "systemd breaks muh 20 year old scripts"
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; no
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; straw man
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; systemd has more issues than this
18:00 MinceR; systemd breaks screen, tmux, dtach, cron...
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; wayland also
18:00 starstreak; no it doesn't
18:00 MinceR; it also fucks up name resolution, logging and time synchronization
18:01 starstreak; im starting to think that the two of you don't know how to use computers
18:01 starstreak; everything you hate breaks all the time
18:01 MinceR; i guess starstreak likes their screen sessions being nuked when they log out, because poettering said it was "modern"
18:01 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: how many years have you used gnu/linux?
18:01 schestowitz[TR]; and what programs did you write?
18:01 schestowitz[TR]; you're talking down on us
18:01 starstreak; none of my shit breaks like you claim it does for everyone
18:02 MinceR; yeah, i guess systemd has mind-reading logic built into it, which triggers special behavior when it detects that the user doesn't know how to use computers
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; what cpu demanding workloads do you run?
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; afaik, you're just "having fun"
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; for that, there's Windows
18:02 starstreak; maybe you guys should try buying a computer instead of getting broken ones out of the trash
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; LP went working for the toy factory
18:02 MinceR; starstreak: oh, your faecesbook machine doesn't break in default configuration? that's great.
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/
18:03 TR Bot; [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | Techrights
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/
18:03 TR Bot; Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | Techrights
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; "modern" computers
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; "boss wwwwwwwwwe have doowntime"
18:03 starstreak; lol
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; boss: need a new hardware?
18:03 schestowitz[TR]; "no, it just won't boot coz MODERN"
18:04 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], you ran with 2GB ram up until the pandemic. my 2007 laptop had more ram.
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; so?
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; shows I can work with less
18:04 starstreak; maybe try getting something that didn't come from the trash
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; shows my workflow was good
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; ok, you're just trolling now
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; see you later
18:05 starstreak; im not trolling, you guys are either full of shit or you have broken computers
18:05 MinceR; starstreak: you're an idiot.
18:05 TR News; CISO: A day in the life | The Enterprisers Project <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Enterprisers Project" href="https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/ciso-day-life">Read on</a>
18:05 TR Bot; CISO: A day in the life | The Enterprisers Project
18:05 starstreak; MinceR, ok boomer
18:05 TR News; ICBM (Hitler-approved tech company): "Its a calling that requires the mindset of a professional like a police officer" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/ciso-day-life
18:06 MinceR; starstreak: ok, retard
18:06 starstreak; lol
18:06 starstreak; are you autistic ?
18:06 starstreak; im autistic, im allowed to say retard
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; very low-grade trolling. "don't pull ma braids, boy!"
18:07 MinceR; i guess MICROS~1 and dehomag can't afford better trolling anymore
18:08 starstreak; im not trolling
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; if you're black autistic lesbian you can say "retarded ni**er dy*e"
18:08 starstreak; im just defending myself against two people
18:08 MinceR; no, you're not defending yourself
18:08 MinceR; you're flaming people because they happen to dislike the malware you're advertising
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; we can probably afford more new pcs than you
18:08 starstreak; this all started when i said i ran 6.0.1
18:09 MinceR; i don't remember anyone asking what you ran
18:09 starstreak; it was tagged to XRevan86
18:09 starstreak; we have a version war
18:09 MinceR; nobody cares about your version war
18:09 MinceR; version wars are idiotic
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak was fedora ambassador
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; now acting like ICBM
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
18:09 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
18:10 MinceR; that's the second person i've heard so far of being a fedora ambassador
18:10 MinceR; the first one was even more of an idiot
18:10 MinceR; (you haven't met the first one, he's hungarian)
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; qualification requirements are not high
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; esp. nwow
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; ICBM barely gets a single sslave for fedora
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; all those panda NFTs don't attract many unpaid dolunteers
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; now they offer das keyboard keycaps
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; (today)
18:11 MinceR; weird, considering that all the other former GNU/Linux distributions were supposed to disappear, based on the "Linux is not about choice" doctrine
18:11 starstreak; you call me insane
18:11 starstreak; sounds a lot like paranoid schitzophrenia
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; i'd say a bit tactless
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; like the way you engage with us
18:11 MinceR; ooh, another diagnosis
18:12 MinceR; apparently mental health professionals should learn a different profession, because such things can be diagnosed on IRC, based on a few lines of text
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; scroll up
18:14 schestowitz[TR]; read again what you told us
18:14 schestowitz[TR]; and think if that's polite, starstreak
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; heirarchy of namecalling
18:15 starstreak; saying you guys dont know how to use computers?
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; *hierarchy
18:15 schestowitz[TR]; *I am right
18:16 schestowitz[TR]; *I am right, but need to explain myself
18:16 schestowitz[TR]; *I am right, but "you're an idiot"
18:16 MinceR; starstreak: you've said a lot of shit today
18:16 MinceR; and also before
18:16 starstreak; im autistic, i don't have a filter
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; people who manage, provision and deploy, even program computers need to also know how to use them
18:17 starstreak; what did I say that was so impolite?
18:17 starstreak; im seriously asking
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; because you don;'t program ojn a piece of paper anymore
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: maybe you felt it was funny
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; but it come across as abrasive
18:17 schestowitz[TR]; *comes
18:17 MinceR; interesting how it isn't funny when a reply comes
18:18 schestowitz[TR]; I use 4 laptosp in tadem and compouter in general far more than the average person
18:18 schestowitz[TR]; since young age
18:18 schestowitz[TR]; *tandem
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 TR News; "Capture groups, lookaheads, and lookbehinds provide a powerful way to filter and retrieve data according to advanced regular expression matching logic. This article explains capture groups, lookaheads, and lookbehinds, along with the fundamental syntax you need to know in order to write them." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/13/advanced-regex-capture-groups-lookaheads-and-lookbehinds
18:20 TR Bot; Advanced regex: Capture groups, lookaheads, and lookbehinds | Red Hat Developer
18:22 TR News; "I'v started a new Gemini mailing list." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~sario528/gemlog/2022-10-13.gmi
18:24 TR News; "KDE is now evaluating Sentry, a crash tracking system. Who can get access? Everyone with a KDE developer account. But what is it?" https://apachelog.wordpress.com/2022/10/13/kde-crash-tracking-system-/
18:24 TR Bot; KDE Crash Tracking System | Blog
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18:24 schestowitz[TR]; hi, QBasicBitchX
18:24 QBasicBitchX; schestowitz[TR]: hai
18:24 TR News; "Despite fewer tests, things are getting worse" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/test-positivity-rate-soars/
18:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10%
18:25 TR News; On the 12th of October, we released the EuroLinux 8.7 beta version. http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/EuroLinux_8_7_beta_released.shtml
18:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines EuroLinux 8.7 beta released
18:26 TR News; UK Covid-19 stats for September (based on new data on deaths) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-septembers/
18:26 TR Bot; Blog Archive Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020)
18:27 TR News; Ubuntu LTS Releases: Everything you need to know | FOSS Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/80036/ubuntu-lts-releases-everything-you-need-to-know.htm Source: FOSSLinux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.fosslinux.com/80036/ubuntu-lts-releases-everything-you-need-to-know.htm
18:27 TR Bot; Ubuntu LTS Releases: Everything you need to know | FOSS Linux
18:27 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
18:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
18:27 TR News; (NEW): Fedora Family / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Fedora_Family_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Fedora_Family_IBM_Leftovers.gmi
18:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora Family / IBM Leftovers
18:29 TR News; CNX is _once again_ presenting expensive system "pre-loaded with Windows 11 Pro" as if it it 'Linux'. It's not. Why does this keep happening? Because of bribes. They send these PCs as 'gifts'. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/13/beelink-gtr6-mini-pc-packs-an-amd-ryzen-9-6900hx-processor-up-to-64gb-ram/
18:29 TR Bot; Beelink GTR6 mini PC packs an AMD Ryzen 9 6900HX processor, up to 64GB RAM - CNX Software
18:30 TR News; "The Documentation Team has released an updated edition of the LibreOffice Calc Guide 7.4 (revision 1) with new contents on sparklines and conditional formatting. Typos and last minute mistakes and formatting were also fixed in this release" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/13/libreoffice-calc-guide-7-4-is-updated/
18:30 TR Bot; LibreOffice Calc Guide 7.4 is updated - The Document Foundation Blog
18:31 TR News; "Were uploading more sessions from the recent LibreOffice Conference 2022! First we had the opening session, and now the keynotes from our two main sponsors" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/13/keynote-speeches-from-the-libreoffice-conference-2022/
18:31 TR Bot; Keynote speeches from the LibreOffice Conference 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog
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18:33 MinceR; https://apina.biz/191809.jpeg?mode=sfw
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18:33 TR News; What is the Most Profitable Coding Language for a Student? - kifarunix.com https://kifarunix.com/what-is-the-most-profitable-coding-language-for-a-student/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kifarunix.com/what-is-the-most-profitable-coding-language-for-a-student/
18:33 TR Bot; is the Most Profitable Coding Language for a Student? - kifarunix.com
18:34 QBasicBitchX; lol MinceR
18:36 TR News; Fedora [sic] Community Blog down to 200 visits per day. That's like a visit every 7 minutes. Fedora used to be vastly bigger. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-september-2022/
18:36 TR Bot; Community Blog monthly summary: September 2022 Fedora Community Blog
18:37 TR News; ICBM's relationship with the Free software community is akin to Bill Gates' relationships with kids. GIMME GIMME GIMME.
18:38 TR News; The 'vpn' snakeoil industry is killing lots of decent linux blogs, turning them into webspam and rendering them useless
18:40 TR News; An inside look at autonomous vehicle hardware: Advantechs ITA-460 https://ubuntu.com//blog/an-inside-look-at-autonomous-vehicle-hardware-advantechs-ita-460
18:40 TR Bot; inside look at autonomous vehicle hardware: Advantechs ITA-460 | Ubuntu
18:40 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22100213
18:40 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.ipg.pw/sandcats/safariyokohama-20210415-0007.jpg created on 2022-10-02 03:18:14.478863
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 starstreak; https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/10/onlyfans-lawyers-accidentally-reveal-which-meta-execs-allegedly-took-bribes/
19:20 TR Bot; OnlyFans lawyers accidentally reveal which Meta execs allegedly took bribes | Ars Technica
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19:58 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFDG-y-EHs
19:58 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=5TFDG-y-EHs
19:58 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=5TFDG-y-EHs )
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20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:29 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
20:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
20:34 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel a slave of Microsoft, bragging about using proprietary software to help Microsoft http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/10/12#github_oct2021_oct2022
20:34 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
20:34 TR News; Another "HEY HI" puff piece from Sean Michael Kerner https://venturebeat.com/ai/why-vodafone-needed-an-ai-booster-to-scale-data-science/
20:34 TR Bot; Vodafone needed an AI Booster to scale data science | VentureBeat
20:36 TR News; "The Earth System Grid Federation, a multi-agency initiative that gathers and distributes data for top-tier projections of the Earths climate, is preparing a series of upgrades that will make using the data easier and faster while improving how the information is curated." https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/earth-system-grid-federation-launches-effort-to-upgrade-climate-projection-data-system/
20:36 TR Bot; Earth System Grid Federation Launches Effort to Upgrade Climate Projection Data System
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20:37 TR News; Community Showcase: Raspberry Pi Zero W P4wnP1 A.L.O.A. | Kali Linux Blog https://www.kali.org/blog/community-showcase-using-kali-pi-p4wnp1-aloa/ Source: Kali Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kali.org/blog/community-showcase-using-kali-pi-p4wnp1-aloa/
20:37 TR Bot; Community Showcase: Raspberry Pi Zero W P4wnP1 A.L.O.A. | Kali Linux Blog
20:40 TR News; "OctoForth is a Forth-inspired threaded interpreter with a unique feature: 8-bit tokens that are magically not limited to a fixed set of 256 meanings." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-10-13.InsideOcto1.gmi
20:41 TR News; "The political compass is laughably limited. It is primarily focused on matching a progressive/conservative spectrum with an authoritarian/libertarian spectrum. It assumes ideologies are variants of left/right and auth/lib spectrums, rather than complete philosophies unto themselves." gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/ideologies.gmi
20:41 TR News; (NEW): GNOME 43: Endless's Part In Its Creation http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/GNOME_43_Endless_s_Part_In_Its_Creation.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/GNOME_43_Endless_s_Part_In_Its_Creation.gmi
20:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNOME 43: Endless's Part In Its Creation
20:43 TR News; "We also discuss open source software and the big part it plays in the HPC/AI puzzle, along with the ongoing Linux operating system wars including the emergence of Rocky Linux after Red Hats December 2020 announcement it would no longer support CentOS." https://insidehpc.com/2022/10/hpcpodcast-intel-shipping-aurora-blades-rocky-linux-vs-centos-teslas-dojo-ai-supercomputer/
20:43 TR Bot; Intel Shipping Aurora Blades; Rocky Linux vs. CentOS; Tesla's 'Dojo' AI Supercomputer - High-Performance Computing News Analysis | insideHPC
20:43 TR News; [GIT PULL] Char/Misc driver updates for 6.1-rc1 - Greg KH https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y0GQwYdy+s8zfd2g@kroah.com/ Source: Intel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y0GQwYdy+s8zfd2g@kroah.com/
20:43 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Char/Misc driver updates for 6.1-rc1 - Greg KH
20:44 TR News; Vista 11 22H2 cant keep up with Linux 6.0 and Ubuntu 22.10 on AMD Ryzen 7950X - Neowin https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-22h2-cant-keep-up-with-linux-60-and-ubuntu-2210-on-amd-ryzen-7950x/ Source: Neowin | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.neowin.net/news/windows-11-22h2-cant-keep-up-with-linux-60-and-ubuntu-2210-on-amd-ryzen-7950x/
20:44 TR Bot; Windows 11 22H2 can't keep up with Linux 6.0 and Ubuntu 22.10 on AMD Ryzen 7950X - Neowin
20:48 TR News; "Today we will talk about the dangers of phone apps and services with a case study looking at the new "The Right Stuff" conservative dating app. This is a huge warning, and we need to be cautious ourselves." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=orbxxlkXS7w"
20:48 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=orbxxlkXS7w )
20:49 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Keep Your Linux System Up to Date With Topgrade http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/How_to_Keep_Your_Linux_System_Up_to_Date_With_Topgrade.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/How_to_Keep_Your_Linux_System_Up_to_Date_With_Topgrade.gmi
20:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Keep Your Linux System Up to Date With Topgrade
20:50 TR News; Bombshell report reveals TikTok is getting rich off livestreaming refugee families begging for help https://fortune.com/2022/10/12/tiktok-china-exploitation-bytedance-children-livestreaming-refugees-charity-donations-syria-bbc/
20:50 TR Bot; profiting from livestreaming refugee families beggingfor help | Fortune
20:52 TR News; Ubuntus New Terminal 'Ad' is Angering Users - OMG! Ubuntu! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.shtml
20:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog (UDPATED)
20:53 TR News; Crystal Crowder posts spam again, calls it "review"; this webspam industry is killing the WWW, making it a waste of time, not credible https://www.maketecheasier.com/nordvpn-review/
20:53 TR Bot; NordVPN Review: A Great Mixture of Speed and Performance - Make Tech Easier
20:54 TR News; NordVPN has nothing to do with "Nord". It is lying. Do you trust your privacy at the hands of companies that lie?
20:56 starstreak; linucks btw
20:57 starstreak; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=LX-7AnOx22k
20:57 TR Bot; Black Eyed Peas - Lets Get Retarded (Dirty Official Video) - Invidious
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 58.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 150.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.28
20:59 TR News; Panda NFT for "diversity" if you help nazi company ICBM improve its image https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/fedora-week-of-diversity-2022
20:59 TR Bot; Fedora Badges
21:00 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: lol
21:00 TR News; Microsoft propaganda site blames "GoLang" and warns about "Linux" because someone wrote some malware and GoLang and tries to trick people into installing it. Microsoft is trying to shamelessly twist cross-platform compatibility as an undesirable thing and security nightmare. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/alchimist-attack-framework-hits-windows-linux-mac/
21:00 TR Bot; Attack Framework Hits Windows, Linux and Mac | TechRepublic
21:00 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ncv5xc4g9q5su.irc) has joined #techrights
21:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], HUGE layoff wave today.
21:01 DaemonFC; Intel and Gannett making big cuts.
21:01 TR News; GAFAM acting more like arms of the Central Intelligence Agency https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/13/iran-protests-google-jigsaw-vpn/
21:01 TR Bot; Google's Jigsaw, with U.S. government money, is bringing a VPN to Iran - The Washington Post
21:02 DaemonFC; https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/salesforce-lays-off-90-employees-17507333.php
21:02 TR Bot; Salesforce, San Franciscos largest employer, has layoffs
21:02 DaemonFC; "Details remain sparse, but according to Protocol and a laid-off employee who posted on LinkedIn, about 90 employees were affected."
21:02 TR News; [oss-security] Various Linux Kernel WLAN security issues (RCE/DOS) found https://lwn.net/ml/oss-security/20221013101046.GB20615@suse.de/
21:02 TR Bot; Various Linux Kernel WLAN security issues (RCE/DOS) found [LWN.net]
21:02 DaemonFC; 90 more layoffs at Salesfarce.
21:02 DaemonFC; And a hiring freeze.
21:03 DaemonFC; MOAR San Francisco crap hitting the fan.
21:03 DaemonFC; https://deadline.com/2022/10/gannett-newspapers-hiring-freeze-layoffs-unpaid-leave-voluntary-severance-1235143064/
21:03 TR Bot; Gannett Announces Hiring Freeze, Unpaid Holiday Furloughs, Suspension Of 401(k) Match And Voluntary Severance Deadline
21:03 TR News; "Voting has begun for the Ubuntu Community [sic] Council election. We will be voting in all seven seats for a two year term. All Ubuntu Members are eligible to vote and should receive their ballot by email." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/10/13/ubuntu-community-council-election-2022-underway/
21:03 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Community Council election 2022 underway!
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; Gannett?
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; GOOD
21:04 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], :)
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; they are malicious sites
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; thatharm visitors
21:04 DaemonFC; " The nations largest newspaper chain, Gannett, continued its cost cutting measures today, announcing a hiring freeze, a mandatory unpaid five-day leave for every employee this December, a six-month sabbatical, a suspension of 401K matches from the company, voluntary severance offer for those who want to retire or leave the company and an optional four-day workweek."
21:04 schestowitz[TR]; also propaganda network
21:04 DaemonFC; "Reeds announcement comes about two months after the company laid off roughly 400 employees or 3% of its U.S. workforce at papers across the country, according to a report from flagship title USA Today."
21:05 DaemonFC; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-11/intel-is-planning-thousands-of-job-cuts-in-face-of-pc-slowdown
21:05 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
21:05 DaemonFC; "Intel Is Planning Thousands of Job Cuts in Face of PC Slump"
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, obv.
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; the chain reaction
21:05 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft 18k layoffs
21:05 DaemonFC; So much for Wintel.
21:05 DaemonFC; Maybe Intel selling gimpy processors that you have to pay to unlock will save them. Hahahaha fat chance.
21:06 starstreak; standard capitalism
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; Ryan: join my club!
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; difference is,
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; ruan does NOT have $500,000 mortgages to pay
21:06 schestowitz[TR]; and 5 people to feed
21:06 MinceR; unfortunately this is unlikely to end uefi, or intel ME, or intel boot guard, or the rest of their nastiness
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: it is still a step in the right direction
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; but ARM is getting nastier over time
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; maybe we can scalpel away pre-2009 chips
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; and be ridiculed by starstreak
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; Intel Celeron is not Intel ChipTM) IIRC
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; or some stupid thing like that
21:08 MinceR; ARM is already nasty
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; but getting worse
21:08 MinceR; most ARM SoCs have TrustZone and most ARM boards have locked bootloaders
21:08 schestowitz[TR]; and nvidia wanted to accelertae that
21:08 DaemonFC; Microsoft Larabel and "Software Defined Silicon". He ignored the last time they did this and it flopped.
21:09 DaemonFC; Remember the Pentium that you had to pay to upgrade about a decade ago?
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; "In September 2022, Intel announced that the Celeron brand, along with Pentium, will be replaced with the new "Intel Processor" branding in 2023.[2]
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; "
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeron
21:09 TR Bot; Celeron - Wikipedia
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; "Intel Processor
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; THE ""Intel Processor"
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; which acer pc do you use?
21:09 starstreak; <schestowitz[TR]> and be ridiculed by starstreak <- I use a 10 year old computer but at least it has 16GB ram
21:09 schestowitz[TR]; THE acer PC
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: too much almost
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; tbh
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; I was gonna remark earlier on beelink
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; they made a vista 11 pc
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; 64 gb or ram
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; for a desktop
21:10 starstreak; the A.I art generator uses about 5GB ram
21:10 schestowitz[TR]; even with video editing you cannot use that much ram
21:10 starstreak; i would love to have 64GB ram
21:11 MinceR; you can't even afford 64GB ram?
21:11 *MinceR laughs at starstreak
21:11 starstreak; i don't think my 2013 pc can even handle that much
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; I can't afford 3 optical drives
21:11 *MinceR laughs harder
21:11 starstreak; 16GB is enough tbh
21:11 schestowitz[TR]; 128 bytes should be enough for everyone
21:12 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
21:12 TR Bot; https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
21:12 TR Bot; timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 )
21:12 frog; i would ask, what is the minimum you could get along with, in practice?
21:12 starstreak; my computer uses about 2GB of ram with everything loaded
21:12 MinceR; so, 1GB for gnome OS and 1GB for a faecesbook tab?
21:12 starstreak; some may say thats bloated
21:13 frog; for me, 256MiB-512MiB suffice, in total
21:13 TR News; Various Linux Kernel WLAN security issues (RCE/DOS) found https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2022/q4/20
21:13 TR Bot; oss-sec: Various Linux Kernel WLAN security issues (RCE/DOS) found
21:13 starstreak; 5GB for the A.I art generator
21:13 starstreak; which is too fun
21:17 starstreak; like this: https://i.imgur.com/NKpIMVB.png
21:17 starstreak; "cyborg neanderthal" was the prompt
21:19 TR News; EU under scrutiny for bankrolling surveillance in Africa https://euobserver.com/migration/156268 EU USELESS on privacy http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/edps-farce/
21:19 TR Bot; EU under scrutiny for bankrolling surveillance in Africa
21:19 TR Bot; Breaking News: EDPS Admits That It is Powerless to Investigate Claims of GDPR Non-compliance at the EPO | Techrights
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:21 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Community Council, Advantechs ITA-460, and Ubuntu LTS Releases http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Ubuntu_News_Ubuntu_Community_Council_Advantech_s_ITA_460_and_Ub.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Ubuntu_News_Ubuntu_Community_Council_Advantech_s_ITA_460_and_Ub.gmi
21:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu News: Ubuntu Community Council, Advantechs ITA-460, and Ubuntu LTS Releases
21:21 TR News; (NEW): Wireless Issue in Linux Reported http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Wireless_Issue_in_Linux_Reported.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Wireless_Issue_in_Linux_Reported.gmi
21:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Wireless Issue in Linux Reported
21:24 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNTj05I4k5I
21:24 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=mNTj05I4k5I
21:24 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Unlikely bikes: The Unibicle - Invidious
21:25 TR News; Linuxfx 11.2.22.04.2 Quick overview #linux #Linuxfx - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mi6pTGfgdgU | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Mi6pTGfgdgU
21:26 TR Bot; Linuxfx 11.2.22.04.2 Quick overview #linux #Linuxfx - Invidious
21:26 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Amarok Linux OS 22.09" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dTHI93p_rec
21:26 TR Bot; How to install Amarok Linux OS 22.09 - Invidious
21:27 MinceR; does it at least come with amaroK installed by default?
21:27 TR News; "GNOME 43 features many smaller and incremental improvements, which all combine together to form a very solid release. In this video, you'll see the latest GNOME desktop in action - complete with a look at what's new, as well as some thoughts." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n89mfZ3-Xbk
21:27 TR Bot; Taking GNOME 43 for a Spin - Full Review - Invidious
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: yeah, i still think it's the software at first
21:28 schestowitz[TR]; but the k is small
21:31 TR News; "Plasma 5.26's standout features, Canonical flips the script on Red Hat, and why Android is leaking traffic outside VPNs." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8920
21:33 TR News; "I finally decided to fill out my fishing log and promptly got annoyed by other sites fishing guides, so I did what any rational person would do I made my own and put it up on a tiny corner of the smol internet that nobody will ever visit except for myself." gemini://vath.click/updates.gmi
21:34 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/quiet-quitters-coasters-target-for-layoffs-recession-experts-say-2022-10
21:34 TR Bot; Quiet Quitters Could Be a Prime Target for Layoffs, Experts Say
21:34 DaemonFC; LOL
21:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Work faster and you may be spared!
21:34 DaemonFC; FASTER as your paycheck's value goes down 10% each year under BAILOUT BIDEN! Faster slave!
21:35 DaemonFC; I want mah pizza! - mjg59_
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.businessinsider.com | Quiet Quitters Could Be a Prime Target for Layoffs, Experts Say
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; BI
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; blame shifting
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; reality distortion
21:37 schestowitz[TR]; victim blaming
21:38 DaemonFC; https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/cleveland/university-hospitals-lays-off-117-administrative-employees/95-ac0745c6-1113-4858-9c9a-525532e5b38d
21:38 TR Bot; Hospitals announces 117 layoffs | wkyc.com
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; they basically call the people who become unemployed lazy
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; to change the narrative
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; this is disgustingf
21:38 DaemonFC; "University Hospitals lays off 117 administrative employees; eliminates 326 unfilled positions"
21:38 DaemonFC; Cleveland, OH
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; less health
21:38 DaemonFC; https://www.masslive.com/worcester/2022/10/family-health-center-of-worcester-employees-are-resigning-following-furloughs-layoffs.html
21:38 schestowitz[TR]; who needsa health anyway?
21:38 TR Bot; Health Center of Worcester employees are resigning following furloughs, layoffs - masslive.com
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-septembers/
21:39 TR Bot; Blog Archive Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020)
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/test-positivity-rate-soars/
21:39 TR Bot; Blog Archive New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10%
21:39 DaemonFC; https://www.businessobserverfl.com/article/layoffs-hit-third-pinellas-county-company-in-three-weeks
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; "resigning"
21:39 TR Bot; Layoffs hit third Pinellas County company in three weeks | Business Observer | Business Observer
21:39 schestowitz[TR]; after they were laid off?
21:39 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Linuxfx, Amarok Linux, GNOME 43, and Linux Action News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Videos_Linuxfx_Amarok_Linux_GNOME_43_and_Linux_Action_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Videos_Linuxfx_Amarok_Linux_GNOME_43_and_Linux_Action_News.gmi
21:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Linuxfx, Amarok Linux, GNOME 43, and Linux Action News
21:39 DaemonFC; 36 layoffs in Largo, North Carolina.
21:39 TR News; (NEW): Zinc: An Ubuntu remix that dares to be different http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Zinc_An_Ubuntu_remix_that_dares_to_be_different.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Zinc_An_Ubuntu_remix_that_dares_to_be_different.gmi
21:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Zinc: An Ubuntu remix that dares to be different
21:39 DaemonFC; Pharmaceutical company.
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; legalise drug dealer
21:40 DaemonFC; https://coingeek.com/crypto-com-understated-layoffs-dismissed-at-least-40-of-its-workforce-report/
↺ https://coingeek.com/crypto-com-understated-layoffs-dismissed-at-least-40-of-its-workforce-report/
21:40 TR Bot; understated layoffs, dismissed at least 40% of its workforce: report - CoinGeek
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; *legalised
21:40 DaemonFC; Crypto dot come lied about the extent of the layoffs.
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; (sarcasm... mostly)
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; "at least"
21:40 DaemonFC; "In June, Crypto.com CEO and founder Kris Marszalek announced that the exchange was laying off 260 employees, accounting for 5% of its workforce. However, according to a new report, the exchange massively understated its layoffs, and it has quietly let go of over 2,000 employees as trading volume dries up in light of the ongoing bear market."
21:40 schestowitz[TR]; so it would be 100%
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; or 99.9%
21:41 DaemonFC; https://www.cutimes.com/2022/10/12/declining-mortgage-market-triggers-more-credit-union-layoffs/
21:41 TR Bot; Declining Mortgage Market Triggers More Credit Union Layoffs | Credit Union Times
21:41 DaemonFC; Credit Unions are firing people across the country due to surging mortgage rates.
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; some banks here have few physical branches left
21:41 DaemonFC; This is about a small one in Iowa that fired 36.
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; and they manipulate people into using "apps" and "site"
21:41 schestowitz[TR]; like, if you don't, there will be punishment
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; or you cannot get certain "products"
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; they strive to have banks with no physical presence
21:42 schestowitz[TR]; kind of like "crypto" BS
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; you can ever reach a teller
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; and ask for a simple thing
21:43 DaemonFC; https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2022/10/11/walmart-layoffs-atlanta-fulfillment-center.html
21:43 TR Bot; NO TITLE
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; and they can turn you away
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; and say,
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; here, use this site
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; or
21:43 DaemonFC; Walmart laid off 1,400 people at an Atlanta "fulfillment" center two days ago.
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; there are some tablets there you can use to do it yourself
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; some idiots call this progress
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; like people becoming till operators at a supermarket
21:43 schestowitz[TR]; having to train in new GUIs
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; and do in 5 minutes what a teller does in 50 secs
21:44 *horseface (~horseface@52r42a237a2p8.irc) has joined #techrights
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; walmart layoffs?
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; now, that's some "realshit"(tm)
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; even the walkton grift machine
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; feelign the pinch
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; raisise the price of products
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; as fewer overpay for brinds
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; (upselling premiums)
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; *brand
21:44 schestowitz[TR]; s
21:45 schestowitz[TR]; mandy could be next, you know?
21:45 schestowitz[TR]; when people stop paying $2 for water with ehcmicals
21:45 schestowitz[TR]; and the price of "generics" doubles
21:46 schestowitz[TR]; that still doesn't make that cost $2
21:46 schestowitz[TR]; people look for afffordable foods now
21:46 schestowitz[TR]; walmart tells the clients to servce "themselves"
21:46 schestowitz[TR]; before you know it they introduce more robots
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21:47 schestowitz[TR]; but don't worry, walmart already kills many of the nearby grocers
21:47 schestowitz[TR]; so mandy will have plenty of other options, right?
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; of course you won't blame greed of the waltons
21:48 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mandy says that there's no layoffs at the store, but they watch productivity scores more than they once did.
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; you will blame some other races using the schtick of "crime"
21:48 DaemonFC; And they pick off the people who drop too low.
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; there you go
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; the scoring began
21:48 DaemonFC; They look for reasons to cut dead weight.
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; appraisals are common in companies that loomk to shrink
21:48 DaemonFC; Productivity. Stealing from the time clock, no matter how minor the offense.
21:48 schestowitz[TR]; and try to 'optimise'
21:49 DaemonFC; They skip write ups for things they used to have a three strike policy on.
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21:49 schestowitz[TR]; to see what removals would impact overall productivity the last
21:49 DaemonFC; They can avoid "layoffs" this way.
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; yyyyeah
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; well
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; blame the laid off
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; and avoid severance too
21:49 schestowitz[TR]; for "misconduct"
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; waltons tightening their belts
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; sales of $2 water bottles with chemicals (fizzy drinks) slow down
21:50 DaemonFC; Mandy just took those two days off unpaid.
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; "what's the cheapest loaf of bread you have?"
21:51 DaemonFC; They don't pay for COVID vaccine side effects anymore unless you want to dig into your PTO for it.
21:51 DaemonFC; But they will delete your points.
21:51 DaemonFC; So that's something I suppose.
21:51 DaemonFC; The HR lady deleted the points.
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; so if you don't get it, you are antivaxxers
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; for rejecting foutrth dose
21:51 DaemonFC; We're lucky. I'm fairly good with money.
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; if you get it, tyou are ill for days
21:51 DaemonFC; We have Savings.
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; and unpaid by the employee
21:51 DaemonFC; We can go "Oh hell, who cares? It's just two days.".
21:52 DaemonFC; Most people in our income level can't do that.
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; and if you get the RealThing and go to hospital , you die or go bankrupt
21:52 DaemonFC; Why? They fritter money away. Or they have expensive kids or something.
21:53 DaemonFC; You think rent's bad on a 1 br or a studio? We could live in a studio if we HAD to, and get the rent down to like $750.
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; still high
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; and likely difficult neighbours
21:53 DaemonFC; If we had kids, we'd need at least a 2br and then they have you by the balls. Everyone with kids is suddenly fighting you for another bedroom and instead of $750 or $925, you're in the "$1,600 minimum" phase.
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; some studios these days lack a kitchen
21:53 DaemonFC; Your rent doubles because your kids need a bedroom.
21:53 schestowitz[TR]; or kitchenette
21:54 DaemonFC; That's an expensive bedroom!
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; so you cannot even cook for yourself
21:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], At the motel I was cooking all throughout COVID.
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; Uncle bill doesn't need a bedroom for the kids
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; they can shar
21:54 schestowitz[TR]; or fly the plane of that other guy who does NOT have 4 aircrafts
21:54 DaemonFC; I had an Instnat Pot and I was cooking on the floor sometimes because there was no room to cook anywhere else.
21:54 DaemonFC; It was awful, but you do what you have to do.
21:55 *MinceR adds water to the Instant Pot
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; cooking on the floor
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; and instant pot is not nourishing food
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; it's pretend meals
21:55 DaemonFC; And in the winter, we had to use space heaters I got off Amazon because the heater for the room smelled like burned dog hair.
21:55 schestowitz[TR]; a gimmick
21:55 DaemonFC; ANd so you couldn't turn it on.
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; smelled like?
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; or was?
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, the motel needs to take care of heating
21:56 DaemonFC; I don't know. They paid some company to come clean all of them out with a pressure washer in the summer, but it still smelled bad the next winter.
21:56 schestowitz[TR]; stink machine doesn't get a checkbox filled
21:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Like they care.
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; priced probably went up 20% since then
21:57 schestowitz[TR]; and it still smells the samme
21:57 DaemonFC; It was a child molester colony that we had to live in because I pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and USCIS was taking their time letting Mandy work.
21:57 DaemonFC; So he wasn't working, I had half of what he makes now.
21:57 DaemonFC; And the credit card people wanted to know where their money was.
21:57 DaemonFC; It was just terrible.
21:57 DaemonFC; My car was being repossessed.
21:58 DaemonFC; Kia was calling me 7 times a day from different numbers just on that.
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; time for election
21:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The price is actually down to about what we were paying them. It spiked about 40% because some homeless charity that was Soros-funded through Illinois put a bunch of homeless there.
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; wait till the price at trhe pump take effect
21:59 DaemonFC; And the motel manager decided to soak them, which meant all rooms went up 40%.
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; OPEC times it for November
21:59 *starstreak eats some crickets
21:59 DaemonFC; It's called PADS Lake County.
21:59 starstreak; these peanuts are deep fried in cricket flower
21:59 DaemonFC; And one of their biggest "donors" was George Soros.
21:59 schestowitz[TR]; housing the homeless is good
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; you make it sound like an injustice
22:00 DaemonFC; So I was priced out of there by George Soros.
22:00 DaemonFC; He almost made us homeless.
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; we have council housing in the UK
22:00 starstreak; DaemonFC, ooooo george soros, hes one of the reptilians
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; even across the road from us
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; am whole row of homes
22:00 DaemonFC; So he could bunk some crazies and public masturbators and drug addicts and stuff.
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: why did you register channeeeeeeeeeels with garbage in the title|?
22:00 schestowitz[TR]; to make the network look k00ky?
22:00 DaemonFC; Then they went homeless again as soon as the money from Soros and the state ran dry.
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; #conspiracytheory 1 Welcome to #ConspiracyTheory with Starstreak. Discuss various conspiracy theories such as Reptilians or Neanderthallers. Also for tech conspiracies. (Gemini) gemini://cerberusinvestigations.darkcloud.ca/ (HTTPS) https://cerberusinvestigtions.neocities.org
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22:01 DaemonFC; The whole thing was a plot to prop up the hotel industry.
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; please remove the description or self-promotional stuff
22:01 DaemonFC; If they left the rooms empty, imagine the public outcry.
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; you put BS there
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; it looks like you try to discredit the network
22:01 DaemonFC; So they shove homeless in there so nobody can complain about your taxes going to prop up hotels.
22:01 starstreak; am i not free to have a channel?
22:01 DaemonFC; Like Pritzker, who took money from the state he governs and put it in his own Hyatt Hotels.
22:02 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: use suitable title
22:02 DaemonFC; Pritzker is basically just Democrat Trump in charge of a state.
22:02 schestowitz[TR]; the /list shows something insane
22:02 schestowitz[TR]; we're not a mentla asylkum, sorry
22:02 starstreak; you have to be crazy to hang out here though
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; just run /title and make something short and on point
22:03 starstreak; daemonfc is always spewing nonsense
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; like "chat about conspiracy"
22:03 starstreak; ok
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; the current title is like shitposting on the network
22:03 schestowitz[TR]; and it makes us look like a joke
22:04 starstreak; how about "Discuss various conspiracy theories"
22:05 DaemonFC; I wasn't saying Soros was a reptilian.
22:05 DaemonFC; I was stating a fact.
22:05 DaemonFC; His homeless relief program almost made us homeless.
22:05 DaemonFC; And then the funding ran out and the homeless are again homeless.
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: much better, thank you
22:05 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: doubt it was intentional and onyl funded by him
22:06 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], no prob
22:06 schestowitz[TR]; I reckon they had financial issues
22:06 schestowitz[TR]; asked for help
22:06 schestowitz[TR]; he helped some
22:06 DaemonFC; I'm not happy that the program isn't permanent.
22:06 schestowitz[TR]; and then some antisemites were trying to connect the while thing to "Soros"
22:06 DaemonFC; But it's not a priority of Illinois to help the homeless.
22:06 DaemonFC; The state is basically neutral on the issue, in theory.
22:06 DaemonFC; It neither helps them nor makes it a felony, like Tennessee does.
22:06 DaemonFC; California officially attacks the homeless.
22:07 schestowitz[TR]; LA has like 50k homeless
22:07 schestowitz[TR]; that was before covif-19
22:07 DaemonFC; They went to court several times and lost on laws that officially said they were to be removed from public ways and bringing one into the state was a felony.
22:07 schestowitz[TR]; probably a lot more now
22:07 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is in liberal paradise, huh?
22:07 schestowitz[TR]; it's shocking because in british cities you're talking about hundreds, maybe thousnads
22:07 schestowitz[TR]; because of social housing
22:08 DaemonFC; Illinois law states that the homeless do not lose any civil rights afforded to other citizens of the state, and they are to be assisted with registering to vote and not obstructed from describing the place that they usually dwell in, even if it is not a postal address.
22:08 DaemonFC; So it's actually a lot better than California, as far as what the laws say.
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22:09 DaemonFC; But Lori sends the Chicago Police to beat them and burn their stuff and then Garrett is only mad that I call her that dumb black lesbian mayor.
22:09 DaemonFC; Like, she's only in office because Woke. She's horrible. She is a vile disgusting excuse for a human being.
22:10 DaemonFC; Nobody like me could ever become an elected official, because people like Garrett are the ones voting for people like Lori.
22:10 DaemonFC; They WANT violence from the police directed at the homeless so they don't have to be annoyed by their presence.
22:10 DaemonFC; They don't want a single damned tax dollar setting up public housing.
22:10 DaemonFC; Or a jobs program.
22:10 TR News; Salaries of GNU/Linux professionals in US https://kifarunix.com/is-knowing-linux-profitable-for-a-graduate/
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22:11 DaemonFC; If Garrett votes for anyone, it's London Breed.
22:11 DaemonFC; And look how that's going.
22:11 DaemonFC; If I was the mayor of Chicago we'd have a lot of fights with the City Council and it wouldn't be gentrification on steroids and election buying.
22:12 DaemonFC; It would be programs that helped the homeless help themselves.
22:12 TR News; 'Linux' Foundation selling talks to Microsoft again https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-linux-foundation-and-fintech-open-source-foundation-announce-the-conference-schedule-for-open-source-in-finance-forum-new-york-2022-301648961.html
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22:12 DaemonFC; And damn it, I'd probably lose a lot of those fights (veto overrides), but I'd use every tool in the box to get that agenda through.
22:13 DaemonFC; I'd be threatening vetoes of unrelated bills. Refusing to propose a city budget (they can't take one up until the Mayor's office presents a proposal).
22:13 DaemonFC; There's a lot of things you could do as Mayor to dial up the pressure on city council, but Lori is a corporate right-wing Democrat.
22:14 TR News; We expect probably in 2023, the semiconductor industry will be likely to decline, Wei explained. https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/13/tsmc-the-leading-indicator-for-an-entire-industry/
22:14 TR Bot; TSMC: The Leading Indicator For An Entire Industry
22:14 DaemonFC; "Oh, no public housing. Okay, well, no menu money for your Ward. No street repairs. No trash removal. Tell your residents it's because you're holding up public housing. See how that works.".
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22:15 DaemonFC; Yes, I would be the best damned mayor for the South Side of Chicago in history, as a white male. You see the irony?
22:15 TR News; Microsoft: hardware industry collapsing. Let's announced ANOTHER version of Vista... to be distributed through.... unsold computers???
22:15 DaemonFC; I would declare war on the north side of Chicago. Trash piled to the sky until there's a budget that actually works for the city residents that have been forgotten.
22:16 DaemonFC; But for that, you get called "Nazi" and other worn out things by people like GULAG.
22:16 DaemonFC; The white people like Garrett are up there in Edgewater and Rogers Park living high on the hog.
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22:17 DaemonFC; While 2/3rds of the city goes unemployed and there's rapes, robberies, and arsons and you name it, they got it, going on.
22:18 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> it's shocking because in british cities you're talking about hundreds, maybe thousnads
22:19 DaemonFC; The Democrats tore down public housing in Chicago because they ALLOWED it to turn into Cabrini-Green to show that black people are "violent, stupid, and poor" and "we don't want Cabrini here" and now the CHA makes $2,500 /mo micro apartments for white woke hipsters like mjg59_
22:19 DaemonFC; FACT
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22:20 DaemonFC; That's not my opinion on black people, that's the Democrat Party. They allowed 90-95% of the residents in Cabrini to be terrorized, robbed, murder, shot, raped in the elevators. The police not responding. Good, decent, hard-working people who just didn't have a lot of money. Not criminals
22:21 DaemonFC; If the Chicago Police, which had 2.5 times as many officers back then, went in there like an army and pulled out the criminals, just the ones they knew about, in a raid, then things would have settled down. They could have kept Cabrini. They didn't want that.
22:21 DaemonFC; The Democrats told them stand down, no-go. Let whatever happens in there happen.
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22:23 DaemonFC; If I had been the Mayor there would have been heavily armed police swarming Cabrini and Robert Taylor. Just thousands of them. They'd surround the place like an army one morning, tell everyone to stay in their homes, and start executing warrants to pull out the people we know about.
22:23 DaemonFC; Nobody in or out until the raid is over.
22:23 DaemonFC; Crime drops 90% the next day.
22:24 DaemonFC; We'd have gotten that fucking place under control and kept it that way.
22:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], And then? Well, we'd have a few hundred homeless in all of Chicago, instead of on every street corner and eating out of the trash at every train stop.
22:24 DaemonFC; Just tens of thousands. More than anyone knows what to do with.
22:25 DaemonFC; My philosophy is you need a really big carrot and a really big stick.
22:25 starstreak; hey XRevan86
22:25 TR News; Main COVID-19 symptom now is sore throat (among those confirmed positive) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D3UGfp__LnY
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22:25 DaemonFC; And if you don't want the carrot, you get the stick.
22:26 DaemonFC; And the stick is, we take out the trash. The murderers, rapists, pedophiles. Put 'em in the electric chair.
22:26 DaemonFC; And the people who aren't causing any problems? Help them.
22:26 DaemonFC; There should be hundreds of executions in Illinois every year over the shit going on in this place.
22:26 DaemonFC; We should make Texas go "WTF is happening in there?".
22:27 DaemonFC; We have such a crime problem that the only solution is to take the worst of the worst and get rid of them.
22:27 DaemonFC; And nobody wants these fuckers alive in prison forever. (Or until they get Parole because of Democrats.)
22:28 DaemonFC; You think I'm wrong? Have a poll. Ask how many people in Lake County want Robert Crimo III to get a life sentence and maybe paroled for "good behavior" after murdering all those people and orphaning children.
22:28 DaemonFC; The Democrats won't put it up for a vote because they KNOW even their own voters don't want this guy alive.
22:29 DaemonFC; I sure as shit don't.
22:29 DaemonFC; Let me throw the switch!
22:29 DaemonFC; We have too many of these people floating around this place.
22:30 DaemonFC; Crimo III is white, btw. Why do I give a shit what color he is. He did what he did and there's no redemption for it. Fuck him. Hang the bastard.
22:30 XRevan86; starstreak: hi
22:30 MinceR; 13 232526 < DaemonFC> My philosophy is you need a really big carrot and a really big stick.
22:30 MinceR; doesn't work
22:30 MinceR; there are several existential threats humanity is facing
22:31 CrystalMath; i've always been more of a small-carrot-small-stick kind of person
22:31 DaemonFC; A crime surge is probably our worst problem.
22:31 DaemonFC; And the economy is a big second right now.
22:31 MinceR; what is the overwhelming majority doing? pretending they don't exist and inventing every smear they can think of against people who mention them.
22:31 DaemonFC; I think they're faking polls to try to discourage Bailey's voters from showing up.
22:31 prurigro; DaemonFC: you don't think crime might be related to the economy?
22:31 DaemonFC; Because he's winning on "crime" and "the economy" and those are the big issues in Illinois.
22:31 DaemonFC; And Prickster is talking about doing nothing except making this place an even bigger shithole than it is now.
22:32 DaemonFC; <prurigro> DaemonFC: you don't think crime might be related to the economy?
22:32 DaemonFC; It's proven that violent crime generally has little to do with the economy.
22:32 DaemonFC; Non-violent crime is only slightly related to the health of the economy.
22:32 prurigro; ah, I assumed you were talking about bike and car thefts (the only categories of crime increasing in my city right now)
22:33 DaemonFC; Economists have shown that for every 1 point of additional unemployment, there is 1 point of increase in non-violent crime, but no effect on violent crime.
22:33 TR News; Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-19-deaths-increasing/
22:33 TR Bot; Blog Archive Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK
22:33 DaemonFC; So there's barely even an effect on bike theft and carjackings and muggings.
22:33 DaemonFC; One of the worst crime waves in America hit in the 1960s, during a huge economic boom.
22:33 prurigro; the bike thefts here are like high end bikes getting stolen from peoples garages-- I suppose you could categorize that as pro B&E
22:34 prurigro; seems like in both cases people are cloning the signals emitted by FOBs
22:34 prurigro; garage doors and keyless entry cars
22:34 DaemonFC; Yes, of course there will be an increase in financially motivated crime when the economy is bad.
22:34 DaemonFC; But bike theft is very different than murder.
22:34 starstreak; XRevan86, do you have 6.0.1 yet?
22:34 prurigro; or even when people are worried it's going to get bad
22:35 DaemonFC; Running off with Amazon packages is different than rape.
22:35 prurigro; yeah, thankfully there's no increase in murder here- there is where you are though eh?
22:35 DaemonFC; 40% surge in violent crime since 2018, when Pritzker took office.
22:35 XRevan86; starstreak: Not until reboot.
22:35 DaemonFC; Well, he took office in 2019, but the surge happened after 2018, so....you get what I mean.
22:36 DaemonFC; And the SAFE-T Act "bail reforms" make it worse soon.
22:36 DaemonFC; And they want to turn possession of a lot of hard drugs into misdemeanors.
22:36 DaemonFC; Illinois is giving up entirely on having a justice system under the Democrats.
22:36 DaemonFC; And we're seeing the results unfolding right in front of us.
22:37 prurigro; not ruining peoples lives over getting caught with a couple grams of mushrooms or because their doctor gave them an opioid addiction doesn't seem unreasonable
22:38 prurigro; though addiction treatment and mental health stuff is a good thing to add along side decriminalisation (not for mushrooms though, those should just be straight up legal)
22:39 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/is-cartoon-networks-end-near/
22:39 TR Bot; Cartoon Network's end may be near from merger
22:39 starstreak; prurigro, i wish LSD was legal
22:39 DaemonFC; 125 people got fired and Cartoon Network is now shut down.
22:39 prurigro; starstreak: a lot of its analogues are in canada
22:40 DaemonFC; Warner Bros. Television Group (WBTVG) announced on Tuesday its cutting 26% of personnel a total of 125 positions, across scripted, unscripted and animation.
22:40 DaemonFC; Channing Dungey who is both chairman of WBTVG and the first Black executive to run the entertainment division at a major network called the move incredibly difficult, citing a tumultuous time in the industry in a memo to employees sent Wednesday.
22:40 DaemonFC; In addition to the layoffs, the production company has opted not to fill 43 additional vacant positions, taking the total number of eliminated jobs to 125.
22:40 starstreak; prurigro, oh good point
22:41 prurigro; DaemonFC: huh, rick and morty still seems to be a thing
22:41 starstreak; prurigro, is it ethical to give drugs to bugs like Walter Bishop
22:41 prurigro; I think you could probably ethically give drugs to anything vegans are willing to kill for food
22:42 starstreak; do vegans eat bugs?
22:42 DaemonFC; 125 people fired, and obviously the 43 open jobs won't be filled now.
22:42 DaemonFC; Rick & Morty Season 6 is really bad.
22:42 prurigro; I assumed they were down for cricket chips, but that's a good question
22:42 DaemonFC; This is like Writers Guild Strike bad.
22:42 prurigro; I need to make friends with a vegan so I can ask these types of questions
22:42 DaemonFC; They can't even write a script for a cartoon that only runs for 20 minutes now.
22:42 DaemonFC; This is terrible.
22:43 prurigro; just earlier today I was wondering to myself what vegans think of plants grown with animal products (manure)
22:43 starstreak; prurigro, my guess is that they are living things so no
22:43 prurigro; plants are living things
22:43 prurigro; mushrooms are living things that aren't plants
22:44 starstreak; hmmm
22:44 starstreak; where _do_ they draw the line
22:45 prurigro; that's why I need a vegan in my life- all these questions lol
22:45 starstreak; i don't even like non-Psilocybin mushrooms
22:45 starstreak; mushrooms gross
22:45 prurigro; they won't drink milk because animals are forced onto farms for them, but they seem cool with using the poo of animals forced onto farms
22:46 starstreak; hmm
22:46 prurigro; agreed re: mushrooms - especially super mario mushrooms
22:46 starstreak; vegans dont make sense
22:46 prurigro; I couldn't even swallow
22:46 starstreak; lol
22:46 starstreak; they have a gross texture and no flavour, i don't know why people insist on them
22:46 prurigro; my friend's boyfriend described the experience of biting down onto a mushroom as its "squelch"
22:47 prurigro; he seemed to think it was a good thing, but I feel like that single term accurately sums up why I dislike mushrooms
22:47 schestowitz[TR]; hi prurigro , wb
22:47 prurigro; ahoy!
22:47 prurigro; how are you?
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; good
22:48 schestowitz[TR]; just wrapping up Daily Links
22:50 TR News; "CISA has released twenty-five (25) Industrial Control Systems (ICS) advisories on October 13, 2022. These advisories provide timely information about current security issues, vulnerabilities, and exploits surrounding ICS." Lots of Siemens. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/13/cisa-releases-twenty-five-industrial-control-systems-advisories
22:50 TR Bot; CISA Releases Twenty-Five Industrial Control Systems Advisories | CISA
22:51 TR News; Mitsubishi: Authorization Bypass Through User-controlled Key, severity 9.1 out of 10 https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-287-03
22:51 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC iQ-R Series (Update A) | CISA
22:52 MinceR; 13 234206 < starstreak> do vegans eat bugs?
22:52 MinceR; i doubt it
22:52 schestowitz[TR]; they kill some
22:52 MinceR; they make noises about honey because it's made by bees
22:52 schestowitz[TR]; but they don't consider themselves accountable
22:52 MinceR; and it's taken away from the bees
22:52 schestowitz[TR]; the farming process kills bugs
22:52 MinceR; and in that case, the insects don't even get eaten by humans
22:52 prurigro; MinceR: I feel like that's different though- bees have somehow gained cute animal status
22:53 starstreak; MinceR, you can get goodies made from cricket flour
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; unlike flies
22:53 MinceR; prurigro: could be
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; rianne loves bees of all kinds
22:53 starstreak; MinceR, i was just eating some deep fried peanuts made from cricket flour
22:53 MinceR; starstreak: and vegans pretend that's ok?
22:53 schestowitz[TR]; but doesn't stand flies because she sees them digging into poo
22:53 MinceR; how do you make peanuts out of cricket flour?
22:53 prurigro; random fact: a lot of people allergic to shellfish are also allergic to crickets
22:53 starstreak; MinceR, the breading
22:53 MinceR; ah, ok
22:53 starstreak; i want to try some cricket brownies
22:56 TR News; PostgreSQL 15 Is Here Loaded with New Features and Enhancements https://linuxiac.com/postgresql-15-is-here-loaded-with-new-features-and-enhancements/ Source: Linuxiac http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.shtml
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22:59 TR News; (NEW): Juno Tablet is a Linux tablet with an Intel Jasper Lake processor for $429 and up http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Juno_Tablet_is_a_Linux_tablet_with_an_Intel_Jasper_Lake_process.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Juno_Tablet_is_a_Linux_tablet_with_an_Intel_Jasper_Lake_process.gmi
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23:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You're going to love this post I'm writing about the layoffs.
23:04 DaemonFC; "Cartoon Network was essentially shut down (Creative Talent like writers/animators sacked). 125 job losses and 43 open positions eliminated, but the parent company has its first Black CEO, says WGN Chicago."
23:04 schestowitz[TR]; sounds like race-baiting
23:05 schestowitz[TR]; you are trying to blame the layoffs on he race of the CEO?
23:05 schestowitz[TR]; the economy is shit
23:05 schestowitz[TR]; the CEO is maybe a distraction
23:06 TR News; Timothe Ravier: Akademy 2022: Whats next for Flatpaks in KDE https://tim.siosm.fr/blog/2022/10/13/akademy-2022-flatpak/
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23:07 TR News; Timothe Ravier: Akademy 2022: Conference report https://tim.siosm.fr/blog/2022/10/13/akademy-2022-talks/
23:07 TR Bot; Akademy 2022: Conference report - Siosms blog
23:10 DaemonFC; No, the WGN article mentions the race of the new CEO in an article about layoffs.
23:10 DaemonFC; As if that fucking matters.
23:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Added: (WGN distracts from layoffs by mentioning the irrelevant race of the new CEO of Warner Bros/Discovery.)
23:11 DaemonFC; Better?
23:11 schestowitz[TR]; if that's your wording
23:11 schestowitz[TR]; then you are slopp
23:11 schestowitz[TR]; or racist, which you are
23:11 schestowitz[TR]; and you're showing it
23:11 DaemonFC; "Walmart announced that it is laying off 1,500 more people (after the hundreds of corporate jobs) and they're blue collar workers this time in an Atlanta "fulfillment center" (warehouse)."
23:11 schestowitz[TR]; the new phrasing is better
23:11 DaemonFC; "Crypto.com lied about the size of its layoffs in June. It turns out that it was at least 40% of the people working there. At the time, they said it was 260 employees, and turns out that it was well over 2,000."
23:12 schestowitz[TR]; yes, many companies lie these days
23:12 schestowitz[TR]; tthey think it's OK
23:12 schestowitz[TR]; I spent hours yesterday arguing with colleague s about it
23:12 schestowitz[TR]; it's mentioned in passing
23:12 schestowitz[TR]; in the video about your comed post
23:13 schestowitz[TR]; cryptocharlatans lie a lot more than most
23:13 schestowitz[TR]; theyt sold a scam
23:13 schestowitz[TR]; pyramid scheme all along
23:13 schestowitz[TR]; even sheela microsoft, jim zermlin's wife
23:13 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/
23:13 TR Bot; After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; btw,
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; to whit
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of the lying is justified as "white lies"
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; "we were trying to protect jobs"
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; that kind of crap
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; "trying to assure clients"
23:14 schestowitz[TR]; that's why companies gravittate towards hiring and promoting chronic liars"
23:15 schestowitz[TR]; who lie about companies
23:15 schestowitz[TR]; like twitter petendign to be bigger than it is
23:15 schestowitz[TR]; and the attacking whisteblowers
23:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm having to summarize in some cases.
23:15 schestowitz[TR]; simply because they got tired of the lying
23:16 DaemonFC; The mortgage loan originator bankruptcies are piling up and banks and credit unions across the country are firing thousands, too numerous to even individually mention.
23:16 DaemonFC; Due to mortgage rates spiking, few loans. No real need of loan officers anymore.
23:16 TR News; ICBM looking for slaves to test the new kernel before it's put in RHEL for people who pay $1000+ per server https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-37-test-week-for-kernel-6-0/
23:17 TR Bot; Contribute at the Fedora Linux Test Week for Kernel 6.0 - Fedora Magazine
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23:17 schestowitz[TR]; methiinks when people take a mortgage the rate should be fixed for decades
23:18 schestowitz[TR]; with assurance of it not changing
23:18 schestowitz[TR]; and new mortgages alone should be the issue
23:18 schestowitz[TR]; first they came for the bailout of banks
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; then they came for bailout of Microsoft
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; the hierarchy of needs
23:19 schestowitz[TR]; they know what society needs the most: banksters and microsoft
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23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-12.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-13.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Going to mention 200 layoffs at Oracle in California.
23:21 DaemonFC; This is happening too fast to even keep track of.
23:22 DaemonFC; All while other news says it's all fine, strong economy, lots of jobs. And also, there's a lot of layoffs and hiring freezes and if you're not working fast enough you'll be the first one out the door. Bank of America says expect 260,000 net job losses per month in the United States "soon".
23:22 DaemonFC; That's what they tell to investors, not consumertards.
23:24 DaemonFC; The media can't pick a lane and stay on message, so there's a lot of crap out there that can't all possibly be true, but what they tell investors is brace for a truly lousy economy next year. Millions of job losses.
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23:31 TR News; Browsers: Clutter to declutter gemini://xiu.smol.pub/1665649448
23:31 TR News; "It's a retro-styled computer made using modern components. I love retro computers and I've been eagerly following this project. I keep thinking about driving in and programming on the emulator, but I have other stuff to do right now." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1150
23:32 TR News; "I got my first dev job in 2021 which I feel I kinda lucked out with as I didn't really get technical questions in the traditional sense and the guy interviewing me hadn't written a single line of code in his life." gemini://pandaonline.smol.pub/interview
23:33 TR News; "For the last ten years, I've tried to expunge the words 'simple' and 'complex' from my vocabulary and thinking." gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/null_complex.gmi
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23:36 TR News; Conflict of interest in coverage: "( Disclosure: TheCUBE is a paid media partner for the AnsibleFest. Neither Red Hat Inc., the sponsor of theCUBEs event coverage, nor other sponsors have editorial control over content on theCUBE or SiliconANGLE.)" https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/07/expect-ansiblefest-join-thecube-oct-18-19-ansiblefest/
23:36 TR Bot; to expect during AnsibleFest: Join theCUBE Oct. 18-19 - SiliconANGLE
23:41 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat and Fedora News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Red_Hat_and_Fedora_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Red_Hat_and_Fedora_News.gmi
23:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat and Fedora News
23:42 TR News; Red Hat is Collapsing, Executives Are Fleeing, With Rushed Replacements (Effective Immediately, No Smooth Transition) http://techrights.org/2022/10/13/red-hat-is-collapsing-executives-are-fleeing-with-rushed-replacements-effective-immediately-no-smooth-transition/
23:42 TR Bot; Red Hat is Collapsing, Executives Are Fleeing, With Rushed Replacements (Effective Immediately, No Smooth Transition) | Techrights
23:42 XRevan86; https://openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2022/10/13/2 oh shit
23:42 TR Bot; oss-security - Various Linux Kernel WLAN security issues (RCE/DOS) found
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; anyone on wifi
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; can exploit
23:42 schestowitz[TR]; so many devices
23:43 schestowitz[TR]; now the rust fanatics will make false claims
23:44 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22081138
23:45 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/n532v3yqrgg91.png created on 2022-08-11 13:29:54.932631
23:46 starstreak; i switched from gnome to sway, so i use sway btw
23:47 starstreak; it rhymes too
23:47 schestowitz[TR]; :D
23:47 schestowitz[TR]; nice
23:48 starstreak; :D
23:49 TR News; (NEW): Arduino Projects: Pollution Maps and Gear-Cutting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Arduino_Projects_Pollution_Maps_and_Gear_Cutting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Arduino_Projects_Pollution_Maps_and_Gear_Cutting.gmi
23:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Arduino Projects: Pollution Maps and Gear-Cutting
23:49 TR News; (NEW): Windows 11 22H2 cant keep up with Linux 6.0 and Ubuntu 22.10 on AMD Ryzen 7950X http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Windows_11_22H2_can_t_keep_up_with_Linux_6_0_and_Ubuntu_22_10_o.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Windows_11_22H2_can_t_keep_up_with_Linux_6_0_and_Ubuntu_22_10_o.gmi
23:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Windows 11 22H2 cant keep up with Linux 6.0 and Ubuntu 22.10 on AMD Ryzen 7950X
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23:52 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR_u9rvFKzE
23:52 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PR_u9rvFKzE
23:53 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Skrillex & Damian "Jr Gong" Marley - "Make It Bun Dem" [Audio] - Invidious
23:53 TR News; WTH, Mozilla? Stop breaking user-chosen themes in Thunderbird. Leave things alone. Stop breaking everything. Each release is like a step back.
23:58 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/13/us-layoffs-accelerating-under-bailout-bidens-re-defined-recession/
23:58 TR Bot; US layoffs accelerating under Bailout Bidens re-defined recession. | BaronHK's Rants
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