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00:00 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> Breaking Out the Champagne for a Landmark Occasion | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/djukanovic-and-campinos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/01/djukanovic-and-campinos/
00:00 TR Bot; [Meme] Breaking Out the Champagne for a Landmark Occasion | Techrights
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00:00 DaemonFC; mjg59_ shows up in a bathrobe to scream THE CHAMPAGNE WAS NOT KORBEL!
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00:13 schestowitz[TR2]; he made a career enabling corruption
00:13 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22072931
00:13 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/vkiibibf5td91.jpg created on 2022-07-29 12:42:42.741883
00:14 schestowitz[TR2]; he uese the term "sjw" to "compensate" for it
00:14 schestowitz[TR2]; like Microsoft Peter dod
00:14 schestowitz[TR2]; and Bill and Lolita Foundation dooes
00:14 schestowitz[TR2]; front group for organised crime by Bill
00:18 DaemonFC; He got a Free Software Award for corruption.
00:18 mjg59_; DaemonFC: The problem with the champagne was not that it was Korbel, it was that it was 23 years old and had not been stored well
00:18 DaemonFC; I've called publicly on RMS to revoke the Free Software Award given to Matthew Garrett.
00:18 mjg59_; k
00:18 DaemonFC; Maybe I should talk to RMS and see if I can get a response. He usually emails me back.
00:19 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/uefi-secure-boot-and-fsf/
00:19 TR Bot; My Disagreement With the FSF Over UEFI Secure Boot | Techrights
00:19 schestowitz[TR2]; that aged very well
00:19 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is familiar with revocation lists.
00:19 schestowitz[TR2]; UEFI is a disaster
00:19 schestowitz[TR2]; and mjg repeatedly pushed to oust RMS
00:19 DaemonFC; Like that time a whole bunch of GNU/Linux distros were revoked in a "dbx" update and I had to reset and disable "Secure Boot".
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00:20 DaemonFC; The FSF should be more cautious about who they give these things out to.
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00:21 DaemonFC; They've had several toxic people who went on to sabotage Free Software and at least one who took a full time job at Microsoft to do that, when it was no big secret that he was a mole when they handed him an award.
00:21 DaemonFC; They also give them to people who haven't written any code and say we need to gang up on people to push them around.
00:23 DaemonFC; mjg59_ runs on UEFI.
00:23 DaemonFC; I hear the implants tend to itch.
00:23 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Perhaps you'd like an analgesic cream?
00:24 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dXTXjnvzE78
00:24 TR Bot; Star Trek: First Contact | EMH - Invidious
00:24 schestowitz[TR2]; if he joins Microisoft,
00:24 schestowitz[TR2]; I will be the first to congratulate him
00:24 schestowitz[TR2]; on exposing himself
00:24 schestowitz[TR2]; like Lennart
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00:26 mjg59_; I've turned down Microsoft every time they've tried to recruit me
00:26 schestowitz[TR2]; hahaa
00:26 schestowitz[TR2]; so they tried!!!
00:26 mjg59_; Not planning on changing that policy
00:27 schestowitz[TR2]; like they did jono bacon
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00:27 schestowitz[TR2]; how many times did they try|?
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00:30 schestowitz[TR2]; "nnot yet;'
00:30 schestowitz[TR2]; "not on the first date"
00:31 TR News; Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/
00:31 TR Bot; Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights
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00:31 ulf; why would MICROS~1 need to recruit anyone who already does all the work for them, implementing UEFI?
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00:36 DaemonFC; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1029
00:36 TR Bot; We are not sheep Armed and Dangerous
00:37 DaemonFC; You cant seriously think theyre a deterrent against overreaching governments, the cops will just come for you you first.
00:37 DaemonFC; I think the idea is "not going quietly" onto the trains, like the Jews during the holocaust.
00:37 DaemonFC; If you are unarmed, they definitely just bust in and take everyone and put them on the trains.
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00:38 DaemonFC; Maybe if most people are armed, they manage to do it anyway, but it's better to resist. The Holocaust showed what happened to people who couldn't resist. The people who had to get on the trains.
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00:39 DaemonFC; Even after everyone saw what the Germans were doing, taking their gold fillings out, putting them in work camps, gassing the ones they didn't need anymore.....
00:39 TR News; WTH is this??? https://linuxhint.com/sql-server-sample-bulk-data/ http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/linuxhint-losing-direction/
00:39 TR Bot; SQL Server Sample Bulk Data
00:39 TR Bot; LinuxHint (LinuxHint.com) is Not About Linux Anymore | Techrights
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00:39 DaemonFC; I mean, what could they do about it? It's not like everyone in the household had a gun and could each shoot and kill a few of the people who were trying to take them away.
00:40 ulf; "the germans"
00:40 DaemonFC; Governments love "people who go quietly" when the men with machine guns show up with lists.
00:40 ulf; DaemonFC: let me ask you something.
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00:41 ulf; i mean, this sort of pseudo-historical argument, is reason enough to leave.
00:41 ulf; however, let me ask: ever heard of "beafsteak nazi" before? care to explain how "the germans" were supposed to be among them?
00:41 ulf; *who
00:41 DaemonFC; Almost all of the German public either went along with it out of fear of their own safety or because they actually were members of the Nazi Party.
00:41 *schestowitz[TR2] facepalms
00:42 DaemonFC; Governments know that when people are afraid, they tend to stand down and do nothing and hope it won't be them.
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00:43 DaemonFC; If the Nazis managed to topple the German government again, the same thing would happen. I think the left in the US is maybe finally getting a clue about gun ownership.
00:44 DaemonFC; Illinois is now #1 in legal firearm sales in America because the left finally sees how well the police protected them in 2020 during the riots (the police stood there and watched it happen).
00:44 DaemonFC; Then they watched a mob of Trump supporters on January 6th while Trump was egging them on.
00:45 DaemonFC; If he wins another election, he'll use executive action and the Supreme Court to paralyze the federal government while he turns it over to a group of brown shirts and names them a Revolutionary Guard.
00:45 DaemonFC; And finally the folks who were afraid of guns are more afraid of what happens if they don't have one.
00:45 ulf; DaemonFC: If you know better about "Illinois", then talk about this. And leave the rest to history books, some of them you should read before spouting mental excrement.
00:46 DaemonFC; The US now sounds a lot like how Germany was increasingly unstable during the 1920s.
00:46 DaemonFC; Mostly economically, and then that led to political instability.
00:47 ulf; When reading those history books, you may learn then, "the germans" possesed the least weapon before and during WW2. Soviet Union and USA posessed orders of magnitude more weapons than the german empire.
00:47 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/253731
00:47 TR Bot; Kremlin prepares playbook for pro-government media. Special operation to be compared with the Christianization of Kievan Rus Meduza
00:47 DaemonFC; The federal government is becoming weaker and weaker. Certain states are using power grabs to make sure they can throw out an election that goes "the wrong way", and the next election may well be the last one.
00:47 DaemonFC; It's going to be a corrupt election and potentially the last one.
00:48 DaemonFC; The Republicans are already going to do very well this year.
00:48 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-July-30-31-08-01
00:48 TR Bot; Dispatch for July 30-31 Telegraph
00:49 DaemonFC; I predict that they have about a 45% chance of flipping the Illinois Governor's mansion (the only reason I give Pritzker a 55% chance is because of Cook County), and I'd say there's a 90% chance the Republicans take the state Supreme Court.
00:49 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/1/7361411/
00:49 TR Bot; Russia blocks Red Cross from visiting Olenivka prison camp ? human rights ombudsman | Ukrainska Pravda
00:49 DaemonFC; The way I see it going down is that Pritzker hangs on, but the Republicans take the Supreme Court.
00:50 DaemonFC; Once they have the court, they can use judicial review to take up everything that they've had on their wish list since 1965 and bust out rulings one after another to pretty void out everything, starting with abortion and gun control and going down the list.
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00:50 britney; <MinceR> pizza the hutt <--- yaaaaas!
00:50 DaemonFC; And there won't be anything Pritzker or the legislature can do about it except maybe propose constitutional amendments and ask the public in the next election to start reversing the Supreme Court.
00:51 DaemonFC; Some jurisdictional stripping or voiding out statutes that give the court some powers it doesn't already have, but it will be a disaster for the Democrats.
00:52 DaemonFC; There's really nothing at all, in theory, stopping the Illinois Supreme Court from overturning the "Reproductive Health Act".
00:53 DaemonFC; All it has to do is declare that the state has been neglectful in its duty to protect the lives of its citizens and that the statute is void.
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00:53 DaemonFC; What does that do? Well, it doesn't bring back the laws that the Act repealed, which made performing or receiving an abortion illegal. That's beyond the court's legal authority.
00:53 TR News; Linux Mint 21 MATE Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bfg5AjG4OkQ | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/bfg5AjG4OkQ
00:53 TR Bot; Linux Mint 21 MATE Run Through - Invidious
00:54 TR News; CLIfm: Is This Really A Terminal File Manager?? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CJmcisw9F90 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/CJmcisw9F90
00:54 TR Bot; CLIfm: Is This Really A Terminal File Manager?? - Invidious
00:54 DaemonFC; But it can void out the budgetary parts where the legislature has passed funding to pay for abortions.
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00:54 DaemonFC; Studies show that about 10,000 women per year use the state funding to obtain an abortion.
00:55 DaemonFC; No doubt some of those would happen anyway using grants from private organizations.
00:55 TR News; [PATCH 0/5] Broadcom/Apple Bluetooth driver for Apple Silicon - Sven Peter https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220801103633.27772-1-sven@svenpeter.dev/ Source: svenpeter | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220801103633.27772-1-sven@svenpeter.dev/
00:55 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/5] Broadcom/Apple Bluetooth driver for Apple Silicon - Sven Peter
00:55 DaemonFC; But it would put a dent.
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00:55 TR News; [GIT PULL] Scheduler updates for v6.0 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yufc5Mq1aqLVV%2FOv@gmail.com/T/#u Source: Ingo Molnar | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yufc5Mq1aqLVV%2FOv@gmail.com/T/#u
00:55 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Scheduler updates for v6.0
00:55 DaemonFC; My preferred candidate for the vacancy on the Supreme Court is the only Republican on my ballot that won his primary election.
00:56 TR News; [GIT PULL] io_uring support for zerocopy send - Jens Axboe https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/d5568318-39ea-0c39-c765-852411409b68@kernel.dk/ Source: kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/io-uring/d5568318-39ea-0c39-c765-852411409b68@kernel.dk/
00:56 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] io_uring support for zerocopy send - Jens Axboe
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00:56 DaemonFC; Part of my reasoning is that he's won countywide elections here as the Sheriff a couple of times. That means that there won't be enough "resistance" in Lake County to his election to the Supreme Court.
00:56 DaemonFC; And all of the more conservative counties like McHenry, which share our Supreme Court district, will put him past the finish line.
00:57 TR News; Emmabunts: On August 1st, 2022, Emma DE4 2nd update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167911 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/Emmabunts:_On_August_1st,_2022,_Emma_DE4_2nd_update.shtml
00:57 TR Bot; Emmabunts: On August 1st, 2022, Emma DE4 2nd update | Tux Machines
00:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Emmabunts: On August 1st, 2022, Emma DE4 2nd update
00:57 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167912 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/howtos_3.shtml
00:57 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
00:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
00:57 DaemonFC; Lake County is one of the most "liberal" in this judicial circuit, but if it's basically a wash in the Supreme Court race, then it becomes irrelevant and the other counties can install Curran.
00:58 DaemonFC; Once he's on the court, he can terminate the funding for the RHA and overturn the FOID Act.
00:59 DaemonFC; With a State Supreme Court hostile to gun control, it won't matter what the Democrats try to pass.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
00:59 DaemonFC; It won't be in force for very long.
00:59 TR News; Keychron keyboards fixed on Linux | Bastian Venthur's Blog https://venthur.de/2022-08-01-keychron-keyboards-fixed-on-linux.html Source: venthur | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//venthur.de/2022-08-01-keychron-keyboards-fixed-on-linux.html
00:59 TR Bot; Keychron keyboards fixed on Linux | Bastian Venthur's Blog
00:59 DaemonFC; Right now, the Democrats have a 4-3 majority on the court. There are two seats in play. The Republicans could win one or both. They only need one to flip the majority and start repealing Pritzker.
01:00 DaemonFC; I'm not really digging Darren Bailey though.
01:00 DaemonFC; I might turn in a blank ballet and only vote for the Supreme Court seat to divide the state government and start infighting between the branches.
01:01 DaemonFC; The Democrats have no intention of doing better than people like Dick Durban and JB Pritzker. Durban has been in the Senate for forever. He's accomplished basically nothing.
01:02 DaemonFC; He actually torpedoed a "compromise" on Immigration that would have led to Green Cards for most people on DACA and the rest, which Trump was willing to sign.
01:02 DaemonFC; Because it had border security funding in it.
01:03 TR News; Ubuntu: selling humanity to Microsoft https://www.reviewgeek.com/124603/10-tech-terms-youre-saying-wrong-and-how-to-pronounce-them-correctly/
01:03 TR Bot; 10 Tech Terms Youre Saying Wrong (And How to Pronounce Them Correctly) Review Geek
01:03 DaemonFC; The Immigration Compromise would basically have given Permanent Resident status to about 6-7 million people who have nothing right now in exchange for letting Trump build some wall out in the desert. No more than he got anyway by stealing money out of funding for military hospital renovations and stuff.
01:04 DaemonFC; The Democrats have left all of those people at risk of being deported as soon as ICE figures out where they are, because they wouldn't take yes for an answer when Trump offered them Green Cards.
01:05 DaemonFC; That's what those idiots in San Francisco have left us with.
01:05 DaemonFC; Drunken Nancy screwing 7 million immigrants out of their Green Card.
01:05 DaemonFC; mjg59_, is probably spending some of his down time working on her next campaign while he tells people how great SF is.
01:05 DaemonFC; :P
01:06 DaemonFC; I can't blame her husband for the DUI. I really can't.
01:06 DaemonFC; I couldn't be married to someone who looked like they opened the ark of the covenant and was that stupid without turning to the sauce.
01:07 DaemonFC; He probably is very encouraging of her being in Congress. She's 3,000 miles away and he doesn't have to deal with her very much.
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01:08 TR News; When dealing with corrupt companies or orgs, the most culpable are the founders/managers, less culpable are their workers, least culpable are their clients. Of course those who boycott them all do the right thing.
01:08 DaemonFC; The Democrats and Pelosi are so WEAK that Pelosi won't even stand up to China and say if she's going to make a stop at Taiwan.
01:08 schestowitz[TR2]; Microsoft pelodi
01:08 schestowitz[TR2]; *Pelosi
01:08 DaemonFC; Then the Communists will declare victory when she doesn't because they successfully pushed us around and manipulated our foreign policy again.
01:08 schestowitz[TR2]; investor in crime
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01:09 DaemonFC; The Taiwan Relations Act needs to be repealed and we should recognize Taiwan instead.
01:09 DaemonFC; The Act itself is criminal. We have the right to recognize whoever we want as a state.
01:10 schestowitz[TR2]; first US claims guam
01:10 schestowitz[TR2]; now it plays buddies with Taiwan
01:10 DaemonFC; It just shows you how long the US has been bossed around by China. The thing was passed in 1978 and back then we should have said "How dare you?" and immediately recognized Taiwan.
01:10 schestowitz[TR2]; imagine china becoming buddies with Mezico like that
01:10 schestowitz[TR2]; or ywt worse, hawaii
01:11 DaemonFC; We've had traitors in Washington for years.
01:11 DaemonFC; Please tell me how making China a threat was in our best interest.
01:12 DaemonFC; On some level, you can hardly fault the people who want to hang Congress for things like this. They have no job because Congress is sitting in there all day, millionaires, gutting this country of dignified employment.
01:12 DaemonFC; Then when you're working at fucking McDonalds, they sign more laws to make the cost of healthcare go up another 100% per year.
01:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I spent ALL FUCKING DAY on the phone, well, other than lunch and a quick nap. But like, a good 4 hours on the phone today.
01:13 DaemonFC; You know why?
01:13 schestowitz[TR2]; no
01:14 DaemonFC; Mandy's insurance denied his claims at the dentist's office and I had to call his insurance company and patch the claims adjuster through to the dentist's office on a 3 way call.
01:14 DaemonFC; So the woman at the dentist's office could tell them the "tooth numbers" the insurance company said were blank, even though I saw the claim, and they weren't blank.
01:15 DaemonFC; Finally, the insurance company agreed to pay out the claims and they say wait two weeks and the money should be deposited in the dentist's account!
01:16 ulf; "Multiple organizations criticized, defunded and/or cut ties with the FSF": RedHat, FSFe, Debian, ... EFF
01:16 DaemonFC; The insurance company has to pay $824.72 and so did I, but the rejection would have meant additionally losing the "insurance discount".
01:16 DaemonFC; Which would have left me paying over $4,000 for those claims.
01:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], If they had denied it and the dentist sent us a bill I would have said "Fine. Adjust it to $824.72. You would have been happy getting a check for that from the insurance and closing the account balance out. You'll take it from me or we'll see each other in court.".
01:17 ulf; did they do this to support RMS or to remove him?
01:19 ulf; i mean FSF Europe isn't any loss to "Free Software", same with IBM/RedHat, i won't miss them and their malware.
01:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Insurance companies don't want to pay anything.
01:21 DaemonFC; So it's common to have them send you denial letters and then make you spend hours on the phone or sending them letters. Eventually they usually give up and pay, but they make you work for it.
01:22 ulf; i consider this smear campaign a distraction from what really happened: wreckage of GNU toolchain by corporate interests, one example
01:22 DaemonFC; They know some people won't put in the effort and eventually 60 days will pass and they won't consider an appeal.
01:22 ulf; don't know, what else happened
01:23 DaemonFC; I got a scary letter for my health insurance this month.
01:23 TR News; EPO Corruption: Internet Censorship or Why the World Wide Web and DNS Arent Enough When You Speak Truth to Power | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/video-gemini-and-censorship-by-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/01/video-gemini-and-censorship-by-epo/
01:23 TR Bot; EPO Corruption: Internet Censorship or Why the World Wide Web and DNS Arent Enough When You Speak Truth to Power | Techrights
01:23 DaemonFC; It looked like I was about to be canceled or something and then I opened it up and it was just another letter saying nothing's changed on my policy for the next year.
01:24 DaemonFC; mjg59_ hears "canceled" and shows up, in a bathrobe.
01:24 DaemonFC; The safe word is "fluffiness".
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01:25 DaemonFC; Honestly, reading about ESR, he does sound kind of out there.
01:25 DaemonFC; But many people are if you get to know them.
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01:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I've got a draft about GNOME adding support for Office 365 and OneDrive while Microsoft keeps handing me a fallback page for Outlook Mail that's intended for Internet Explorer 11.
01:28 TR News; Re: Misadventures with bash shell gemini://sotiris.papatheodorou.xyz/gemlog/20220802_re_misadventures_with_bash_shell.gmi
01:28 TR News; Using computers as information batteries gemini://sotiris.papatheodorou.xyz/gemlog/20220802_using_computers_as_information_batteries.gmi
01:29 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D310.jpg
01:29 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D661.jpg
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01:31 TR News; EPO President Antnio Campinos queries the Montenegrin President Milo Djukanovi about his unsavory reputation as an autocrat. Djukanovi assures Campinos of his loyalty. http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/djukanovic-and-campinos/
01:31 TR Bot; [Meme] Breaking Out the Champagne for a Landmark Occasion | Techrights
01:31 TR News; Matthew Garrett, who has helped Microsoft attack Linux (rendering it unbootable on many new computers), is pursued by Microsoft, just like systemds creator http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/
01:31 TR Bot; Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights
01:31 TR News; Were about to release a series about EPO and Montenegro, a country as notorious as today's EPO when it comes to attacks on free press; the video above discusses censorship and what were still doing to tackle the problem (the EPO censors inwards and outwards, sometimes using bribes and blackmail) http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/video-gemini-and-censorship-by-epo/
01:31 schestowitz[TR2]; b&b
01:31 schestowitz[TR2]; bribes and blackmail
01:31 schestowitz[TR2]; nice...
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01:40 ulf; "American sex offender and financier" "it was learned made donations to MIT"
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01:47 ulf; many accusations, what seems substantial is: "Trump reportedly banned Epstein"
01:47 TR News; End of July: GNU/Linux share worldwide estimated at 3% on desktop/laptops in spite of Microsoft's crimes (like UEFI 'secure' boot) https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-202201-202208
01:47 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
01:47 ulf; i mean, wouldn't be surprising, if rich and famous persons are confronted with over-exaggerated accusations
01:48 ulf; however, Trump banning Epstein, this is different.
01:48 ulf; and Trump isn't a holy saint, certainly not.
01:48 ulf; nonetheless, what was the wrong-doing of RMS?
01:49 schestowitz[TR2]; 2 fold
01:49 schestowitz[TR2]; 1) writing something dumb a decade ago
01:49 schestowitz[TR2]; 2) writing an email in MIT
01:50 TR News; Our Brexitnaro regime stopped the weekly report on excess mortality https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022
01:50 TR Bot; all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK
01:52 ulf; they're still poisoning the tobacco with chemicals
01:52 ulf; the only pleasure remaining while programming, not at least this remained
01:53 TR News; Twitter activity seems to have slowed down to a crawl, except for niche groups or provocation centres promoted by Twitter to give an illusion of high "engagement"
01:53 schestowitz[TR2]; smoking kills
01:53 schestowitz[TR2]; the chamicals they add to the toibacco are a "side dish"
01:54 schestowitz[TR2]; the smoke itself will kill you
01:54 schestowitz[TR2]; and nicotine will not let you put them down
01:54 ulf; after many years, took the subway into city, filled with females, stinking like a chemical weapons attack
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01:54 ulf; same with the tobacco, artificially sweetened, unnatural, disgusting
01:54 ulf; i mean, it was almost impossible to take a deep breath anymore, that's how intense those chemicals are
01:55 schestowitz[TR2]; so stop buyiing iot
01:55 schestowitz[TR2]; drink more tea instead
01:55 schestowitz[TR2]; cheaper, healthier
01:57 DaemonFC; The FDA might decrease nicotine, but I think it's a ruse to raise taxes.
01:57 DaemonFC; They know people will smoke more to compensate.
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01:58 schestowitz[TR2]; many people roll their own
01:58 schestowitz[TR2]; so they don't let the cigs get 'diluted' or weaskenede
01:58 DaemonFC; http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=26
01:58 TR Bot; The Elephant in the Bath-House Armed and Dangerous
01:58 schestowitz[TR2]; *weakend
01:59 schestowitz[TR2]; *ed
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 DaemonFC; ESR arguing that most gay men are pedophiles.
01:59 ulf; they did it to _all_ brands, loose pouches and ready cigarettes
01:59 DaemonFC; (unsourced)
01:59 schestowitz[TR2]; anyway, smoking is self-harm
01:59 ulf; it's all poisoned with sweeteners
01:59 DaemonFC; "Pederasty, at least, remains a common behavior among modern
01:59 DaemonFC; homosexuals. The `twink or compliant teenage boy (usually blond,
01:59 DaemonFC; usually muscled, depicted in the first dewy flush of postpubescence)
01:59 DaemonFC; is the standard fantasy object of gay porn."
01:59 ulf; the natural tobacco without aroma additives isn't sold anymore anywhere
01:59 ulf; all of it, disgusting
01:59 DaemonFC; He got the definition of twink wrong.
02:00 DaemonFC; "By contrast, I learned
02:00 DaemonFC; from recent
02:00 DaemonFC; research that the archetypal fantasy object of straight porn is a
02:00 DaemonFC; fully-developed (indeed, usually over-developed) woman in her early
02:00 DaemonFC; twenties."
02:00 DaemonFC; A woman in her early twenties is "over-developed" but a "twink" in his twenties is "practically a child". -ESR
02:00 ulf; anyway, since the DVB-T2 receiver was defect, which was the reason to take the subway into city
02:01 DaemonFC; Making the case that exactly the same behavior is acceptable for straight men.
02:01 ulf; i got a new receiver, which too got DVB-C2 (digital cable)
02:01 ulf; well, didn't know, in my flat i got the full digital-cable TV unlocked... didn't know that
02:01 TR News; Istio / Announcing Istio 1.14.3 https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.14.x/announcing-1.14.3/ Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.7 https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.13.x/announcing-1.13.7/
02:01 TR Bot; Istio / Announcing Istio 1.14.3
02:01 TR Bot; Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.7
02:02 ulf; Tele5 still broadcasts StarTrek for example, i mean i didn't miss that too much
02:02 DaemonFC; "(reliable figures for the incidence of male
02:02 DaemonFC; homosexuality range between 1% and 4%)"
02:02 DaemonFC; Gay marriages are about 4-5% of total.
02:02 DaemonFC; So ESR pulled a Felta there and threw in a 1% figure to demean us by marginalization.
02:02 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: the only rleevance to us is ESR
02:02 schestowitz[TR2]; but the topic is off topic
02:02 ulf; international news channels, including CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, some Japanese, in total it's 100 stations plus digital radio
02:02 schestowitz[TR2]; and won't do us any good
02:03 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: we got gemini running for tuxmachines
02:03 schestowitz[TR2]; and experimented with another gemini server
02:03 schestowitz[TR2]; this one c, not rust
02:03 DaemonFC; He asserts that the NAMBLA pedophiles are welcome by gay men at PRIDE events. Usually what happened was they got beaten up and thrown out.
02:04 DaemonFC; Their organization fell apart because it turned out most of them were committing sex crimes and got themselves arrested.
02:04 schestowitz[TR2]; or sent to Arizonaaa
02:04 schestowitz[TR2]; to look after "mom"
02:04 DaemonFC; I'm glad they're gone so the Fundamentalists can't point at them anymore and go "nyaaah!".
02:05 DaemonFC; Don't commit sex crimes unless you're a billionaire or at least know Bill pretty well and can get his attorney and golf buddy judge on the horn.
02:05 DaemonFC; Like Rick did.
02:05 TR News; "The VFX community beckoned, and we answered the call! Ubuntu by Canonical is proud to announce we will be attending SIGGRAPH 2022, and we have quite a bit to share with you all." https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-siggraph-2022
02:05 TR Bot; at SIGGRAPH 2022 | Ubuntu
02:06 DaemonFC; He goes on to claim that pervert Catholic priests are "gay". They're not "gay". If they were "gay" then some of them would at least be caught with men of legal age.
02:06 TR News; Install Android Studio on an ARM-powered Chromebook https://chromeunboxed.com/how-to-install-android-studio-on-an-arm-powered-chromebook/ Source: chromeunboxed | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//chromeunboxed.com/how-to-install-android-studio-on-an-arm-powered-chromebook/
02:06 TR Bot; Install Android Studio on an ARM-powered Chromebook
02:06 DaemonFC; And that's oddly missing from the list. It's always boys. But why boys? Because criminals are lazy, and they go after what's easily available.
02:07 DaemonFC; The priesthood starves them of a normal sex life (which is not an excuse, but is a contributing factor), and then the altar boys are there and the priest is in a position of authority and figures he'll get away with it.
02:08 DaemonFC; It's a crime of opportunity. If there were altar girls, then you'd catch those perverts doing stuff to them.
02:08 DaemonFC; They want access to victims who are easy to silence.
02:08 TR News; Canonical is working for Microsoft while Microsoft attacks Linux, moreover promoting WSL (Windows), which goes against Ubuntu, the prime brand of Canonical https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/01/canonical_multipass_azure/ see http://techrights.org/2022/07/29/bribing-the-rivals/
02:08 TR Bot; Canonical adds instance modification to Multipass, and more The Register
02:08 TR Bot; Microsoft Bribing Everyone: Canonical, Linux Foundation, OSI (Those That Should Push Back Against Microsoft Crimes) | Techrights
02:09 DaemonFC; If the priesthood is causing them to have unbearable sexual urges, that part at least would be normal. Most people want to have sex now and then. But they should resign the priesthood and go after someone their own age. Or at least of legal age.
02:09 ulf; anyway, 100 tv stations full of crap
02:09 TR News; Lilbits: Linux 5.19, Ryzen Embedded, and RISC-V - Liliputing https://liliputing.com/lilbits-linux-5-19-ryzen-embedded-and-risc-v/ Source: liliputing | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//liliputing.com/lilbits-linux-5-19-ryzen-embedded-and-risc-v/
02:09 TR Bot; Linux 5.19, Ryzen Embedded, and RISC-V - Liliputing
02:09 DaemonFC; When the Vatican started moving the priests around to non-extradition countries in the middle of the night, the problem got worse.
02:09 schestowitz[TR2]; www:
02:09 schestowitz[TR2]; milliuons of sites
02:09 schestowitz[TR2]; of no value
02:09 DaemonFC; They knew if people were on to them, the church would get them out of there before the police could move in on them.
02:10 DaemonFC; And many of the cops and jurors are Catholic, of course.
02:10 ulf; during night, Alpha Science channel broadcasts videos from the Space Station, and Bob Ross Joy of Painting
02:10 DaemonFC; And they'll feel "bad" about convicting a priest. Notice how none of them go to prison?
02:10 DaemonFC; Even when they stay in the United States.
02:11 DaemonFC; The cops, prosecutors, and jurors, are Catholics, at least so many that it makes a fair judicial process impossible.
02:11 ulf; as soon as they wake up, all those morning shows, it's 5 minutes of lies and disgust and i turn off again
02:11 DaemonFC; ESR is wrong. The priests are not gay. They're perverts and they're criminals who go after the easiest victim.
02:12 DaemonFC; Men in prison who have never had a gay thought in their life will hold other men down and rape them in the showers.
02:12 DaemonFC; Neither one is gay.
02:12 DaemonFC; The United States allows prison rape to go on to make prison more horrible.
02:12 TR News; Public Knowledge Files Comments Urging FCC To Strengthen Phone Locking Reporting - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-files-comments-urging-fcc-to-strengthen-phone-locking-reporting/ Source: publicknowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-files-comments-urging-fcc-to-strengthen-phone-locking-reporting/
02:12 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Files Comments Urging FCC To Strengthen Phone Locking Reporting - Public Knowledge
02:12 DaemonFC; Everyone knows it will eventually happen to them if they end up there and that the guards won't help them.
02:13 TR News; "Also, more and more apps get ported to GTK4/libadwaita, Phosh 0.20 beta 3, KDE progress and more._" https://linmob.net/weekly-update-30-2022/
02:13 TR Bot; - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (30/2022): Ubuntu Touch on FairPhone 4, and, maybe, RISC-V phones in the future!
02:14 TR News; Mirantis Adds Lens Pro Edition to IDE Portfolio for Kubernetes - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/mirantis-adds-lens-pro-edition-to-ide-portfolio-for-kubernetes/ Source: containerjournal | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//containerjournal.com/features/mirantis-adds-lens-pro-edition-to-ide-portfolio-for-kubernetes/
02:14 TR Bot; Mirantis Adds Lens Pro Edition to IDE Portfolio for Kubernetes - Container Journal
02:14 TR News; July GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Nineteen new GNU releases! https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/july-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-nineteen-new-gnu-releases
↺ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/july-gnu-spotlight-with-amin-bandali-nineteen-new-gnu-releases
02:14 TR Bot; July GNU Spotlight with Amin Bandali: Nineteen new GNU releases! Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
02:17 ulf; anyway, had to downgrade from an armv7 toolchain to armv6, because this is what tinycc emits for aarch32, and i wanted to keep this compatible/interoperable with GNU toolchain too
02:18 ulf; for various reasons.
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02:18 ulf; GNU toolchain isn't trivial to maintain.
02:19 ulf; another reason, i want to remove it.
02:19 TR News; Kernel 5.19: Probably the final release of the 5.x series http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167861#comment-34489
02:20 TR Bot; Linux Kernel 5.19 Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
02:20 ulf; i think it's feasible, to remove GNU compiler at least, binutils probably not.
02:20 TR News; Windows, not PC. Microsoft is UNhealthy https://www.maketecheasier.com/ways-to-check-pc-health/
02:20 TR Bot; 9 Easy Ways to Check PC Health - Make Tech Easier
02:21 ulf; libtool and autotools, are another such GNU malice, to mention the build-system only
02:21 TR News; "In the thirty-seventh episode of the WordPress Briefing, WordPress users and contributors reflect on how WordPress has changed their understanding of the web as we celebrate World Wide Web Day." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/08/episode-37-the-world-of-wordpress-on-world-wide-web-day/
02:21 TR Bot; Episode 37: The World of WordPress on World Wide Web Day WordPress News
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02:22 TR News; "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 746 for the week of July 24 30, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/08/01/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-746/
02:22 ulf; and if possible, i am willing to crunch down the available software package set further, to retain what i consider "free software" passing minimum acceptance testing
02:22 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 746
02:22 ulf; and as far is minimum acceptance criteria are concerned, there was alot to discuss, with GNU/FSF and their affiliates
02:22 ulf; that's one reason, why I am angry
02:23 TR News; OUCH!!! Linux Today links to classic WEBSPAM. Why??? https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/the-2022-complete-linux-programming-certification-bundle/
02:23 TR Bot; The 2022 Complete Linux Programming Certification Bundle | Linux Today
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02:25 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/8/17092684/great-slate-fundraising-congressional-campaign
02:25 TR News; Arduino-controlled robot solves Rubiks Cubes in a couple seconds | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/01/arduino-controlled-robot-solves-rubiks-cubes-in-a-couple-seconds/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/01/arduino-controlled-robot-solves-rubiks-cubes-in-a-couple-seconds/
02:25 TR Bot; Meet the campaign connecting affluent techies with progressive candidates around the country - The Verge
02:25 TR Bot; Arduino-controlled robot solves Rubiks Cubes in a couple seconds | Arduino Blog
02:25 TR News; DIY SawStop saves fingers from shop mishaps | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/01/diy-sawstop-saves-fingers-from-shop-mishaps/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/01/diy-sawstop-saves-fingers-from-shop-mishaps/
02:25 TR Bot; DIY SawStop saves fingers from shop mishaps | Arduino Blog
02:25 DaemonFC; "says Matthew Garrett, a security engineer at Google who donated to the Great Slate. "
02:25 DaemonFC; LOL
02:26 DaemonFC; They didn't need his services anymore.
02:26 MinceR; lol
02:26 TR News; All-time high for GNU/Linux at Steam https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
02:26 TR Bot; Steam Hardware & Software Survey
02:26 MinceR; "security" "engineer"
02:26 DaemonFC; He still has refused to elaborate on what the exact situation was surrounding his departure from Google.
02:27 DaemonFC; Which may be telling in itself.
02:27 TR News; [RFC] Remove DECNET support from kernel - Stephen Hemminger https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220731190646.97039-1-stephen@networkplumber.org/ Source: networkplumber | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220731190646.97039-1-stephen@networkplumber.org/
02:27 TR Bot; [RFC] Remove DECNET support from kernel - Stephen Hemminger
02:27 MinceR; more like promoter of a platform for bootkits and vendor lock-in
02:27 schestowitz[TR2]; yes
02:27 schestowitz[TR2]; imposters
02:27 schestowitz[TR2]; imposters everywhere
02:27 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG says that changing jobs every few years, at most, is "perfectly normal".
02:27 schestowitz[TR2]; [toy story]
02:27 DaemonFC; Most of the people I know keep the same job for 10-20-50 years if they can.
02:28 MinceR; maybe that's how you do it in the USA
02:28 DaemonFC; At that point you're vested in the pension plan and stuff, you know.
02:28 MinceR; i don't think i know many people in the IT industry who kept the same job for 10 years
02:29 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAzOwt1M7OI
02:29 TR Bot; https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=CAzOwt1M7OI
02:29 schestowitz[TR2]; secufrty engineer
02:29 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=CAzOwt1M7OI )
02:29 DaemonFC; Although Walmart stopped doing vesting, you have to stay there for at least a year before they start matching 401(k) contributions, which is why I elected not to contribute anything into Mandy's for the first 12 months. We didn't owe any taxes anyway, so no tax benefit. And no match.
02:29 DaemonFC; So why bother?
02:29 DaemonFC; I only started up the contributions in time for the match.
02:29 DaemonFC; They also take our taxes way way down.
02:30 DaemonFC; John pretty much destroyed my life, financially, for about two years.
02:30 DaemonFC; So I couldn't earn enough to pay taxes due to him and I was basically living off of not paying my bills.
02:31 DaemonFC; The state didn't ultimately make as much of a problem for me as they did the IRS, their own tax department, and the banks.
02:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I walked into an old Ubuntu Forums post.
02:33 DaemonFC; All of the people with anything interesting to read have a user status of BANNED.
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02:35 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
02:36 schestowitz[TR2]; it's dead, jim
02:36 DaemonFC; It seems most of the people they hire there don't really believe in what they're being paid to do. But they say they do to keep their job. Like Alan Pope arguing with me about how great Snaps were despite the cryptominer malware incident and the fact that many don't even run when you click on them unless you're using GNOME on some specific version of Ubuntu.
02:36 DaemonFC; Them he leaves and puts out a program to remove all snaps.
02:36 schestowitz[TR2]; popey was a shill for canonical
02:36 schestowitz[TR2]; even beforer they hried him
02:36 schestowitz[TR2]; they gave him "Scoops"
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-010822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-010822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-010822.txt
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 01, 2022
02:37 DaemonFC; I tried to deploy some Snaps because I wanted to say "Maybe they work fine.". They don't.
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02:38 DaemonFC; Literally the first one I installed failed to run because I wasn't using GNOME on that computer.
02:38 DaemonFC; It was GZDOOM.
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 01, 2022
02:38 schestowitz[TR2]; not sure why he left canonical. I know what he says,.
02:38 schestowitz[TR2]; but it might not be the full story
02:38 TR News; Links 02/08/2022: Emmabunts Debian Edition 4 1.02 and ScummVM 2.6.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/scummvm-2-6-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/01/scummvm-2-6-0/
02:39 DaemonFC; Flatpaks are definitely the better designed of the two "universal" package formats.
02:39 TR Bot; Links 02/08/2022: Emmabunts Debian Edition 4 1.02 and ScummVM 2.6.0 | Techrights
02:39 DaemonFC; And it's Free Software.
02:39 DaemonFC; We know how it works and how to run a Flatpak repo.
02:39 MinceR; what happened to AppImage?
02:39 MinceR; what happened to Zero Install?
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-010822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-010822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-010822.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 01, 2022
02:39 DaemonFC; AppImage is bullshit.
02:39 schestowitz[TR2]; not ICBM
02:39 DaemonFC; If I wanted a bunch of fucking garbage all over my computer that's not getting updates, I could use Windows. I don't need AppImage.
02:40 MinceR; you can update them manually if you want to
02:40 TR News; ScummVM 2.6.0 or: Insane Escapism Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167913 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/ScummVM_2.6.0_or:_Insane_Escapism.shtml
02:40 TR Bot; ScummVM 2.6.0 or: Insane Escapism | Tux Machines
02:40 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/ScummVM_2.6.0_or:_Insane_Escapism.shtml )
02:40 MinceR; and without depending on malware
02:40 DaemonFC; LibreWolf says their AppImage doesn't update. It's a Web browser. It's very important to get timely updates to a Web browser.
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-01.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-01.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:40 DaemonFC; You point it at untrusted content every time you use a Web site.
02:41 TR News; Open Hardware: Arduino, Linux on Mobile, and RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167914 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/Open_Hardware:_Arduino,_Linux_on_Mobile,_and_RISC-V.shtml
02:41 TR Bot; Open Hardware: Arduino, Linux on Mobile, and RISC-V | Tux Machines
02:41 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/Open_Hardware:_Arduino,_Linux_on_Mobile,_and_RISC-V.shtml )
02:41 MinceR; well, then i guess LibreWolf will tell you what package format is good, and you'll believe them.
02:41 TR News; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167915 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/CanonicalUbuntu_Leftovers.shtml
02:41 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
02:41 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/CanonicalUbuntu_Leftovers.shtml )
02:41 DaemonFC; They package Flatpaks.
02:41 DaemonFC; I use the Flatpak.
02:42 DaemonFC; I allowed it Filesystem Home to make Video Download Helper work.
02:42 MinceR; have fun with your ibm crapware
02:43 MinceR; and if your browser is vulnerable, an attacker can overwrite its binaries, too
02:43 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, CLIfm, and Linux Mint 21 MATE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167916 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/AudiocastsShowsVideos:_WordPress,_CLIfm,_and_Linux_Mint_21_MATE.shtml
02:43 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, CLIfm, and Linux Mint 21 MATE | Tux Machines
02:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, CLIfm, and Linux Mint 21 MATE
02:43 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167917 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/leftovers_4.shtml
02:43 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
02:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
02:44 DaemonFC; <MinceR> and if your browser is vulnerable, an attacker can overwrite its binaries, too
02:44 DaemonFC; Depends on what the vulnerability is.
02:46 DaemonFC; I'm surprised Ubuntu has a forum.
02:46 DaemonFC; Instead of demanding people use Reddit.
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02:46 MinceR; canonical used to pretend they cared about a community
02:46 MinceR; they even had a "community manager", iirc
02:47 DaemonFC; https://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/general/kde-neon/664423-new-kernel-and-the-usual-drill
02:47 TR Bot; New kernel and the usual drill - Kubuntu Forums
02:47 DaemonFC; "My wifi chip doesn't work with any of the repository drivers so I had to go to github and download a tool to compile the 88x2bu driver manually."
02:47 DaemonFC; mjg59_ hated that
02:47 DaemonFC; mjg59_ is going back to Sanctuary Hills
02:48 DaemonFC; (Not GitHub, but the idea of being able to compile a driver yourself and sticking it in a kernel.)
02:49 TR News; "Finished the move. Glad to be up in the PNW. It's so pretty. Also fuck CA I hope I never have to go back there." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/62
02:49 MinceR; :>
02:49 MinceR; "but microsoft doesn't want you to be able to use your wifi chip! obey microsoft!"
02:50 TR News; "My boss is a dick too, but the sad truth is that humans are naturally lazy, so what are you gonna do?" gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/human_un-nature.gmi
02:51 ulf; "An open letter to remove Richard M. Stallman from all leadership positions", signed by Matthew Garrett
02:52 schestowitz[TR2]; and get job offers from Microdsoft
02:52 schestowitz[TR2]; no bad deed goes unrewarded by criminals
02:53 MinceR; (unless of course you want to use your wifi chip from windows)
02:53 ulf; i mean, it's somewhat ironic, the best ever Shitware Project GNOME, too signed this
02:55 ulf; doubt "Free Software" will ever recover from the clusterfuck that GNOME with shitd init system is
02:57 TR News; Novell 'doing a Garrett': Novell Discourages Government Supervision, Regulations Over Microsoft gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2006/12/02/cagw-government/index.gmi
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:59 ulf; "Our communities have no space for people like Richard M. Stallman"
02:59 TR News; New TuxMachines unveiled to IRC a week ago. Still hidden, not advertised publicly. 87k log entries already.
03:00 schestowitz[TR2]; ulf: i can make room
03:00 schestowitz[TR2]; "here, have my chair"
03:00 schestowitz[TR2]; ulf: -signs, Pentagon contractors
03:00 schestowitz[TR2]; hours ago I checked RMS talks page
03:00 schestowitz[TR2]; and latest GNU videos
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; RMS is barely visible anymore
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; he's nto even 70s yet
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; and they want to bury him
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; how "inclusive" of them
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; while cashing in to do proprietary software
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; and the media chose the side of Bill Gates and Epstein
03:01 schestowitz[TR2]; staying classy
03:02 ulf; i see, Mozilla Malware Foundation too signed this rubbish
03:02 MinceR; the side of rich people
03:02 MinceR; they were always on that side
03:02 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
03:02 TR Bot; Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
03:02 schestowitz[TR2]; ulf: same employer
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; as garrett
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; Gulag Inc.
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; doing drone strikes
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; "EHY HI"
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; fo"HEY HI"
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; for assassinations
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; http://techrights.org/2022/07/30/video-zola-algorithm/
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; doing a zola
03:03 TR Bot; [Video] Zolas Algorithm | Techrights
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; but online they do a zola on rms
03:03 schestowitz[TR2]; not with machine guns but libel
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; incidentally, the same people who libel assange
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; because asssange exposed crorruption at companies like Gulag
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; and war crimes
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; gotta dsefend war criminals
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; that's the "sjw" way
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; war crimes OK
03:04 schestowitz[TR2]; but make sure you use the right pronouns for he corposes
03:04 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 44837 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41971 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 2 months 5 days ago
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; https://stallman.org/talks.html
03:05 TR Bot; Talks - Richard Stallman
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; no talks in a while
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; he spoke in frencha dn spanish this year
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; usually they mob these people
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; when they see them speaking
03:05 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 8.7 MB TotalOut: 1.5 MB
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; to scare them back
03:05 schestowitz[TR2]; "you're not wanted in public anymore"
03:06 ulf; i am not a supporter of RMS, simply because i do not trust him and his motives
03:06 schestowitz[TR2]; "you were canceled, didn't you get the memo"
03:06 schestowitz[TR2]; and then they mob tghe organisers"
03:06 schestowitz[TR2]; for giving the person a chance to speak"
03:06 schestowitz[TR2]; bill gates OK
03:06 ulf; nonetheless, i do not expect a holy saint who had represented "free software", and the smear campaign against him is beyond reason
03:06 schestowitz[TR2]; for enabling thousands of underage girls to be smuggled for fucking
03:06 schestowitz[TR2]; but RMS is "Evill"
03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:07 schestowitz[TR2]; ulf: RMS can be criticised for many things
03:07 schestowitz[TR2]; but that letter is fiction
03:07 schestowitz[TR2]; it's pseudo-ethics
03:07 schestowitz[TR2]; used by people who themselves get steered and funded by the real offenders
03:08 IPFS; QmRsfQ3pw4nuArQmWW674K37HTGj3tNeiZgpSYXaAuEhLD
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:08 schestowitz[TR2]; and they try to do the same to me
03:08 schestowitz[TR2]; e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/
03:08 TR Bot; The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights
03:08 schestowitz[TR2]; you say OSI is corrupt
03:08 schestowitz[TR2]; and they try to pretend you condemed OSI for something like gayness
03:08 schestowitz[TR2]; which is of course a lie
03:09 schestowitz[TR2]; but they word it in such a way that yyou cannot sue for defamation
03:09 schestowitz[TR2]; always the same tactics
03:09 schestowitz[TR2]; afterwards they hurd LBGT
03:09 schestowitz[TR2]; because they stigmastise them as a tooxic movement
03:09 schestowitz[TR2]; that defames people
03:10 schestowitz[TR2]; and then some people view LGBT as a hate group
03:10 schestowitz[TR2]; because of these corporate opportunists
03:10 schestowitz[TR2]; so they do nobody a favour, except the corporations
03:10 schestowitz[TR2]; they don't help the marginalised groups
03:10 schestowitz[TR2]; they stereotype them
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03:11 ulf; i consider any later than year 2013 GNU toolchains wrecked, my opinion, if i was free to express it
03:11 ulf; and this is something, "FSF" had to discuss
03:11 ulf; and the role RMS played
03:12 ulf; and whom his MIT departement affiliated with
03:12 ulf; and the donations
03:12 ulf; i mean, GNOME, that's a useless toy project
03:13 ulf; who are those type of people thinking, those represented anything relevant concerned with "free software"
03:13 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/02/sec_smacks_fraudsters_in_alleged/
03:13 TR Bot; Crypto: Charges filed over $300m 'textbook Ponzi scheme' The Register
03:13 ulf; given the fact, there wasn't at least some "free" as in free as in free VT100 terminal remaining
03:14 AdmFubar; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/01/polio-case-new-york-wastewater
03:14 TR Bot; Polio found in New York wastewater month before confirmed case emerged | New York | The Guardian
03:14 ulf; i mean, 1984, USA encorced the SCPA, 1985 RMS emerged from MIT, campaigning for "free software"
03:15 ulf; and if anyone, RMS is of the generation of hackers who could explain it
03:15 ulf; because, in almost 40 years, this type of "free software" didn't manage to retain some free vt100 type terminal
03:19 ulf; then they say it's "free software", look elsewhere; nope, i take exactly a look at where i have to, the FSF
03:20 ulf; because, some Verilog is exactly this: software, and it isn't free, what they endorse and promoted, almost 40 years
03:21 AdmFubar; https://insights.sei.cmu.edu/blog/uefi-terra-firma-for-attackers/
03:21 TR Bot; UEFI Terra Firma for Attackers
03:22 ulf; continued some little catch-up, and reading, j-core.org tried to manufacture their turtle board with a modern semiconductor process, in USA
03:24 ulf; i think, in USA, they couldn't manufacture a compliant system anymore, even if they wanted to, they can't
03:25 ulf; even if FSF/GNU wanted to maintain a sane and stable "free software" toolchain, they couldn't
03:25 ulf; it's an epic knee jerk
03:30 AdmFubar; https://securelist.com/cosmicstrand-uefi-firmware-rootkit/106973/
03:30 TR Bot; the discovery of a sophisticated UEFI firmware rootkit | Securelist
03:35 ulf; GNOME and Mozilla, those are the type of contributions, who benefit "free software"
03:36 ulf; for fun, i would want to compile firefox-3.6.28 again (known to implement non-deprecated W3C standards)
03:36 ulf; if at least this can be compiled given MICROS~1 deprecated python-2.7 entangled into build system
03:37 ulf; and since then, it improved that much, to see such a foundation presenting themselves as "free software" it's an insult to intellect
03:39 ulf; if i could, i would close the entire Moz foundation and terminate chromium development
03:40 ulf; this type of malware doesn't belong anywhere, neither advertised as "free software" or not, that's irelevant, it's malicious
03:41 ulf; and it's irelevant too if MICROS~1 goes proprietary with this crap
03:41 ulf; i mean, i couldn't at least navigate online banking anymore, with firefox-3.6, or lynx, or w3m or netsurf
03:42 ulf; recently, i tried to read some docs at developer.arm.com ... with w3m
03:42 ulf; this type of crap doesn't deserve a comment anymore at least
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03:46 ulf; try this URL in w3m browser: https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ka005138/1-0
03:46 TR Bot; Documentation Arm Developer
03:46 ulf; nothing
03:46 ulf; links browser... nothing
03:47 ulf; lynx ... nothing
03:47 ulf; maybe i made a mistake?
03:49 ulf; and, meanwhile, that's why i got time to spare... another GNU cross-toolchain compilation failed...
03:50 ulf; i see, my mistake, g++ nuked the machine into OOM, again, almost forgot
03:50 ulf; because, i need a c++ compiler to emit an aarch64 kernel...
03:50 ulf; another one, to discuss with the FSF
03:52 TR News; MoonGem 2.3 - Key/Value Store gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/63
03:54 TR News; 9 Wise Linux Cybersecurity Tips for Businesses https://linuxsecurity.com/features/9-wise-linux-cybersecurity-tips-for-businesses Source: linuxsecurity | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxsecurity.com/features/9-wise-linux-cybersecurity-tips-for-businesses
03:54 TR Bot; 9 Wise Linux Cybersecurity Tips for Businesses
03:55 TR News; Buzzwords-filled fluff https://www.suse.com/c/preparing-for-the-next-wave-of-transformation/
03:55 TR Bot; for the next wave of transformation | SUSE Communities
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 172.15
04:05 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, August 01, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:05 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:05 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:05 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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04:36 TR News; For the second time in mere HOURS I see Linux Today linking to WEBSPAM (from the same source). I think Linux Today is compromised. Maybe it's just trying to 'monetise' the readers by spamming. https://academy.techrepublic.com/sales/the-linux-and-docker-coding-bundle
04:36 TR Bot; The Linux & Docker Coding Bundle | TechRepublic Academy
04:37 TR News; The GNU C Library version 2.36 is now available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167918 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/02/The_GNU_C_Library_version_2.36_is_now_available.shtml
04:37 TR Bot; The GNU C Library version 2.36 is now available | Tux Machines
04:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines The GNU C Library version 2.36 is now available
04:38 TR News; Late Night Linux Episode 188 - Late Night Linux https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-188/ Source: latenightlinux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-188/
04:38 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 188 Late Night Linux
04:49 TR News; Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/
04:49 TR Bot; Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours | Techrights
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04:53 TR News; Windows at 9% market share... in Turkey https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/turkey/#monthly-200901-202208
04:53 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Turkey | Statcounter Global Stats
04:54 TheRealPhanes; fwiw im starting to see a shift in the political landscape such that orgs that do "canceling" for thought crimes are starting to basically fall apart everywhere
04:55 TheRealPhanes; whole toxic platforms are sinking
04:55 *TheRealPhanes is now known as phanes
04:57 schestowitz[TR2]; you may have inverted cause and effect
04:57 schestowitz[TR2]; they are failing
04:57 schestowitz[TR2]; hence they resort to corporate BS
04:57 schestowitz[TR2]; e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/
04:57 TR Bot; The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights
04:58 phanes; i usually see thriving companies try to integrate a higher ideology into their culture before the failure starts to run rampant. the people that do shitty things are attracted to the shiny, thriving things and people.
04:58 phanes; narcissists don't target nobodies
04:58 schestowitz[TR2]; as I said, be careful with causality
04:58 schestowitz[TR2]; I saw how brain drain works, even from the insoider
04:58 schestowitz[TR2]; (where I work)
04:58 schestowitz[TR2]; it's a vicioous cycle or a loop)
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 schestowitz[TR2]; you fo bad things, lose key staff, which then leads to more bad things
04:59 schestowitz[TR2]; or shit contracts
04:59 schestowitz[TR2]; and then the quality of the work goes down the drain
04:59 phanes; ill take my couple of decades bouncing around the fortune list over your single experience at a non-listed corp without knowing more tbh
04:59 schestowitz[TR2]; EFF is not what it was a decade back
04:59 schestowitz[TR2]; Mozilla too
04:59 phanes; i mean watching it is one thing
05:00 phanes; surfing in it is another
05:00 Ariadne; EFF has certainly taken positions that have caused me to raise my eyebrows in recent years
05:00 Ariadne; like "proof of work crypto is fine, actually"
05:00 TR News; xkcd: Omnitaur https://xkcd.com/2653/ Source: xkcd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//xkcd.com/2653/
05:00 TR Bot; Omnitaur
05:01 TR News; PAYING for spying? https://staceyoniot.com/for-8-a-month-this-company-will-track-your-tools/
05:01 TR Bot; For $8 a month, this company will track your tools - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
05:02 TR News; Boston Celtics great Bill Russell, 11-time NBA champion, dies at 88 https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34323568/boston-celtics-great-bill-russell-11-nba-champion-dies-88 Source: espn | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34323568/boston-celtics-great-bill-russell-11-nba-champion-dies-88
05:02 TR Bot; Boston Celtics great Bill Russell, 11-time NBA champion, dies at 88
05:04 TR News; Accelerate Your Robotics Design with the Kria KR260 Robotics Starter Kit - Hackster.io https://www.hackster.io/news/accelerate-your-robotics-design-with-the-kria-kr260-robotics-starter-kit-89191a42080d Source: hackster | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.hackster.io/news/accelerate-your-robotics-design-with-the-kria-kr260-robotics-starter-kit-89191a42080d
05:04 TR Bot; Your Robotics Design with the Kria KR260 Robotics Starter Kit - Hackster.io
05:04 phanes; i remember early on when i first started talking about surro linux somebody from some project tried like hell to get me to adopt a code of conduct, and i was like "ok, rule 1) make good commits" and then all of a sudden i was monster #1 until something else shiny caught their eye. all you have to do is say no.
05:04 phanes; and stick to your beliefs
05:05 phanes; unless they change
05:05 phanes; but stick to the new ones when that happens
05:05 phanes; im just saying people having an internal compass solves that problem
05:05 TR News; "Adverse selection happens when there is information asymmetry between buyers and sellers. One side takes advantage of information that isn't known to the counterparty." https://matt-rickard.com/adverse-selection/
05:05 TR Bot; ( status 308 @ https://matt-rickard.com/adverse-selection/ )
05:06 phanes; i sympathize with the idea of a code of conduct, truly
05:06 phanes; but ive never seen it implemented in a way that wasn't toxic af
05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; Ariadne: they ousted a co-founder
05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; after another one had died (Barlow)
05:06 schestowitz[TR2]; that itself makes you wonder
05:07 schestowitz[TR2]; founders removed against their will
05:07 phanes; thats why you don't give up control of your project
05:07 phanes; you can lend control out indefinitely
05:08 phanes; but never sign it over
05:08 Ariadne; phanes: i've seen projects with CoC document where the main group managing the project sit around and use racial slurs
05:08 Ariadne; sooo
05:08 TR News; The world in brief | The Economist https://www.economist.com/the-world-in-brief Source: economist | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.economist.com/the-world-in-brief
05:08 TR Bot; world in brief | The Economist
05:08 phanes; Ariadne, yeah, "two for thee and none for me" is how i describe those
05:08 Ariadne; honestly, quite skeptical that they are any more effective than say, tarot readings
05:08 phanes; theyre not really about protecting users
05:09 phanes; theyre about justifying exclusion
05:09 phanes; arbitrarily
05:09 phanes; and it lets you throw a big nasty label on the reason to encourage pile-ons
05:09 phanes; only toxic people think this way
05:09 phanes; and ive gotta be honest, only toxic people allow it
05:09 TR News; "GPU prices continue to fall across the board." https://rubenerd.com/gpu-prices-a-bit-closer-to-normalcy/
05:09 TR Bot; GPU prices a bit closer to normalcy
05:09 Ariadne; i blame social media for all this shit
05:10 phanes; i dont just mean like "sometimes this person is toxic" im talking about "chronically toxic people that can't be fixed"
05:10 Ariadne; people become radicalized and trained to "split" issues, while corporate stock keeps going up
05:10 phanes; you'd be surprised who they are too
05:10 phanes; like
05:10 phanes; the only way to really see it is to travel incognito
05:11 phanes; change your name on the conference badge, get a haircut and talk to people
05:11 phanes; i do that shit all the time just to scope out project leaders
05:11 phanes; i saw elana hashman coming a mile away
05:12 phanes; (before RMS)
05:13 phanes; alot of those folks if you go them as someone else and they don't realize someone is looking will give themselves away
05:13 phanes; *go to them
05:14 DaemonFC; https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/ny-county-with-polio-has-pitiful-60-vaccination-rate-1000s-may-be-infected/
05:14 TR Bot; NY county with polio has pitiful 60% vaccination rate; 1,000s may be infected | Ars Technica
05:15 schestowitz[TR2]; BillPR pusahes this too
05:15 schestowitz[TR2]; all of a sudden
05:15 schestowitz[TR2]; as if polio thing is a "news"
05:15 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext
05:15 TR Bot; DEFINE_ME
05:15 schestowitz[TR2]; bbl
05:16 schestowitz[TR2]; might set up a third git repo for admin side of tuxmachines, not the web site part
05:16 schestowitz[TR2]; Ariadne: social control media did me no good..
05:16 schestowitz[TR2]; I'm thinking a lot more clearly since leaving it in march
05:17 schestowitz[TR2]; https://www.minds.com/schestowitz/
05:17 TR Bot; Roy Schestowitz () (@schestowitz) | Minds
05:17 schestowitz[TR2]; nothing lost, nothing missed
05:17 schestowitz[TR2]; end of an era
05:17 schestowitz[TR2]; all the sites see exodus of users
05:17 schestowitz[TR2]; FB, FBInsgram
05:18 Ariadne; i think people should host their own blogs again
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; Twitter, Diaspora, MINDS... can't think of one that grains in "engagement"
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; they started doing the divisive shit around 2016 to retain or gain users
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; and trump was OK for them until January 8th (ish) 2021
05:18 schestowitz[TR2]; he was good for busienss
05:19 schestowitz[TR2]; then it went "too far"
05:19 schestowitz[TR2]; it already went bad in 2016
05:19 schestowitz[TR2]; when nations realise a one-building spamfarm can sway political outcomes
05:19 Ariadne; well, not since 2016, but since the beginning really
05:20 schestowitz[TR2]; by gaming with clicks and stuff
05:20 schestowitz[TR2]; twitter in 2009 was just you following mates
05:20 Ariadne; twitter loved trump because he kept keeping them hooked on the site
05:20 schestowitz[TR2]; twitter would let you see who you follow, nothing beyond it really
05:20 Ariadne; either cause people wanted to shit on him, or because they loved him and thought he was god
05:20 schestowitz[TR2]; he was good for "enagagement"
05:21 Ariadne; as far as i'm concerned, twitter has a huge amount of responsibility for the world being the way it is
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; "love him or hate him"
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; in 2016 I saw it gamed badly
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; fore the election, too
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; it's very cheap to manipulate those things
05:21 phanes; Ariadne, you should host a twitter clone for foss people
05:21 schestowitz[TR2]; trump was rallying people in twitter
05:22 Ariadne; phanes: there's already fosstodon and octodon.social
05:22 phanes; i mean more gimmicky than those
05:22 phanes; instead of a tweet it's a "whine"
05:22 Ariadne; i do run a mastodon instance, but it's for something that is only indirectly related to FOSS
05:22 schestowitz[TR2]; foisstodon says it will ban people who don't "engage" enough
05:22 phanes; video conference features are called "dines"
05:22 phanes; so you can whine while you dine
05:23 phanes; that would be epic
05:23 phanes; like build a whole thing around it
05:23 MinceR; call it Hell, and you can dine in Hell
05:23 phanes; perfect
05:23 phanes; FossHell
05:23 Ariadne; at this point, my efforts are focused around other efforts than purely FOSS organizing
05:24 phanes; nobody gets banned except for nazis and pedobears
05:24 TR News; 72% of web traffic in Turkey comes from Android? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/turkey/#monthly-200901-202208
05:24 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Turkey | Statcounter Global Stats
05:25 Ariadne; software freedom is important, but society has larger issues (such as the abusive relationship society has with big tech), and so i am trying to organize against that
05:27 phanes; just dont build a hydro engine that can be retrofit into a consumer automobile
05:27 Ariadne; nah, the stuff i am working on is quite grounded in reality :p
05:27 phanes; hydrogen engines are completely realistic
05:28 phanes; water is literally only comprised of combustible elements held together by a bond
05:28 Ariadne; sure, it's possible to do hydrogen harvesting via electrolysis :p
05:28 Ariadne; but i don't know shit about cars
05:29 phanes; do you know how a pipe bomb works
05:29 Ariadne; i mean, yeah?
05:29 phanes; then you know enough to build an engine
05:30 phanes; combustible engines are actually painfully simple, but are super useful and super profitable when you control manufacturing capability so that engineer barrier, while artificially imposed, maintains the status quo
05:31 phanes; *engineering
05:31 phanes; *combustion
05:31 phanes; *words
05:31 Ariadne; i'm trying to figure out how to do syndication with Hugo
05:32 DaemonFC; https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients-and-mobile-in-exchange-online/deprecation-of-basic-authentication-exchange-online
05:32 TR Bot; Deprecation of Basic authentication in Exchange Online | Microsoft Docs
05:32 Ariadne; sadly, there seems to be no good answers
05:32 DaemonFC; Microsoft is getting ready to turn off IMAP access unless your client uses OAuth2.
05:32 Ariadne; DaemonFC: good, hopefully they get rid of NTLM auth, which is a total joke in 2022
05:32 phanes; DaemonFC, speaking of artificially created engineering barriers to maintain a stranglehold on a market with imaginary boundaries
05:35 phanes; reminds me of oauth2
05:35 phanes; companies realized they could just add unnecessarily complexity for no utility gain other than to make supporting clients scarcer
05:38 Ariadne; oauth2 is actually an improvement over the old way
05:38 Ariadne; but the real shit is openid connect
05:39 phanes; oauth was ok, oauth2 was a trainwreck
05:39 phanes; resume padding for desk jockeys mostly
05:39 Ariadne; well thats what happens every time the IETF get involved
05:40 phanes; yeah im waiting to see what happens with http/3
05:41 Ariadne; my opinions on http-wg are not positive
05:41 phanes; my cryptocurrency investment is that it'll flop on adoption and that http/4 will come along to straighten it out to something closer to http/2
05:41 Ariadne; there was a spec being worked on independently, http signatures
05:42 Ariadne; well http-wg took it over and made a new spec entirely incompatible with the old one which was already adopted all over the place in production
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05:56 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/02/microsoft-sends-broken-web-pages-to-gnome-web-while-gnome-is-adding-microsoft-integration/
05:56 TR Bot; Microsoft sends broken Web pages to GNOME Web, while GNOME is adding Microsoft integration. BaronHK's Rants
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06:08 DaemonFC; https://f-is-for-family.fandom.com/wiki/Bob_Pogrohovich
06:08 TR Bot; Bob Pogrohovich | F Is for Family Wiki | Fandom
06:09 DaemonFC; Everybody look at our black guy! Hes happy and well fed.
06:09 DaemonFC; All of Matt GULAG's employers
06:10 *phanes dies
06:18 DaemonFC; "The kernel and underlying OS frequently don't offer the features you'd need to make a UI competitive with OS X or Windows XP." -Havoc Pennington
06:18 DaemonFC; A dog that walks up and asks me if it can help in a product called "Professional"?
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-01.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-02.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Remember the Bitch to Boss extension Mozilla released a few years ago.
06:52 DaemonFC; 763 people installed it.
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06:53 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG is working on one called ESR to Bathrobe Orgy Person.
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07:12 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xUYwZrmRwnI
07:12 TR Bot; F is for Family - Best of Bob Pogo (David Koechner) - Invidious
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07:15 DaemonFC; The writer apparently based Bob Pogo on his first boss at a Sears Automotive Center.
07:15 DaemonFC; Pogo reminds me of my first boss.
07:15 DaemonFC; Really fat. Always eating and yelling at people and stuffing his face. Driving through the factory on a golf cart.
07:17 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eLOahhJXSgU
07:17 TR Bot; "I have never apologized to a toilet before" | F is for Family - Invidious
07:22 DaemonFC; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4lQCQzT_uyY
07:22 TR Bot; F is for Family why did you leave me Frank - Invidious
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08:36 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Monday, August 01, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/irc-log-010822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/irc-log-010822/
08:36 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, August 01, 2022 | Techrights
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09:00 TR News; Microsoft Sends Broken Web Pages to GNOME Web While GNOME is Adding Microsoft Integration | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/gnome-adding-microsoft-integration-while-bagging-foss-fund-cash/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/gnome-adding-microsoft-integration-while-bagging-foss-fund-cash/
09:00 TR Bot; Microsoft Sends Broken Web Pages to GNOME Web While GNOME is Adding Microsoft Integration | Techrights
09:08 TR News; Microsoft Bribing the Competition (to Get Something in Return) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/bribing-gnome/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/bribing-gnome/
09:08 TR Bot; Microsoft Bribing the Competition (to Get Something in Return) | Techrights
09:08 schestowitz[TR2]; daemon is asleep
09:08 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe he is not aware of this
09:14 TR News; LINUX 5.19 https://www.talospace.com/2022/07/linux-519.html | Source: Talospace
09:14 TR Bot; Linux 5.19
09:18 TR News; "Valve has released a small update to the Steam Deck Beta branch, mostly bug fixes but also an improvement for handling external displays" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-deck-beta-update-brings-bug-fixes-external-display-improvement/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR Bot; Deck Beta update brings bug fixes, external display improvement | GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR News; "Consider this your quick tip of the week, as Republique from developer Camouflaj is now free to keep on Steam and it's also Steam Deck Verified!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/stealth-action-game-republique-is-now-free-and-steam-deck-verified/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR Bot; game Republique is now FREE and Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR News; "While many will no doubt wait on Valve for the official Steam Deck Dock, a lot of hardware vendors are coming out with their own versions." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/no-need-to-wait-on-valve-the-steam-deck-docking-station-from-jsaux-is-great/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR Bot; need to wait on Valve, the Steam Deck Docking Station from JSAUX is great | GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR News; "Valve recently released an update for the main Steam client, which amongst other things brings support in Steam Input" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-gets-support-for-nintendo-online-classic-controllers/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:18 TR Bot; gets support for Nintendo Online classic controllers | GamingOnLinux
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14:35 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Nintendo Online, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167919
14:35 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Nintendo Online, and More | Tux Machines
14:35 TR News; Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167920
14:35 TR Bot; Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Is Now Powered by Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines
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15:12 ulf; weird, yesterday i attached the DVB-C cable receiver, and since this afternoon it is disconnected
15:13 ulf; somewhat ironic, just this morning i began deleting more than 80 of the 100 tv stations from the list already, except for some documentary and news broadcasters
15:13 ulf; leaving me with what's broadcasted OTA with DVB-T2 anyway
15:14 ulf; i am wondering, how they could have noticed some cable-tv receiver was attached (no-internet that is)
15:14 ulf; and, i am paying "cable fee" to the landlord, besides regular internet fee to the internet provider
15:15 ulf; what's surprising me, is they had noticed somehow a DVB-C receiver was attached, although those officially got no transmission channel back to the provider
15:19 ulf; the difference seems to be, with DVB-C some "private" tv broadcasters (mostly useless USA rubbish and series) do not require a separate decryption-card
15:19 ulf; no idea whatever this is, or how it is implemented, with DVB-T2 those "private" broadcasters require decryption
15:20 ulf; the "public" tv broadcasters do not require decryption, instead government forces all citizens to pay for the rubbish and propaganda, and it's broadcasted for free then
15:23 ulf; i would be curious though, i they have noticed a DVB-C receiver was attached, i didn't connect this to the internet
15:23 ulf; *how
15:24 ulf; i did pay for this receiver with cash btw.; not with the mastercard since i am not keen on this thing being associated with my private data in any way
15:25 ulf; within 24hours digital cable-tv disconnect
15:25 ulf; would be curious though, why i have to pay additional "cable fee" to the landlord
15:48 TR News; "The Banana Pi BPI-Bit Lite is a development board following the BPI-Bit." https://linuxgizmos.com/bpi-bit-lite-is-an-educational-board-that-runs-on-arduino-webduino-and-micropython/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
15:48 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/bpi-bit-lite-is-an-educational-board-that-runs-on-arduino-webduino-and-micropython/ )
15:49 TR News; "The OpenNCC NCB is an accelerated AI reference platform fully developed by EyeCloud.AI." https://linuxgizmos.com/openncc-ncb-an-open-source-alternative-to-intels-neural-compute-stick-2/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
15:49 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/openncc-ncb-an-open-source-alternative-to-intels-neural-compute-stick-2/ )
15:50 TR News; "Livepatch is a perfect fit for our needs." https://ubuntu.com//blog/is-linux-secure | Source: Ubuntu
15:50 TR Bot; Linux secure? | Ubuntu
15:50 schestowitz[TR2]; testing:
15:51 schestowitz[TR2]; we had a major outage here, and that seems to have killed the sd card on the pi
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15:52 britney; Major Outage
15:55 schestowitz[TR2]; yes
15:55 schestowitz[TR2]; they had to come digging
15:56 schestowitz[TR2]; the whole street was out
15:56 schestowitz[TR2]; it was an ongoing issue, finally I think they found the source of the problem
15:56 schestowitz[TR2]; but what pisses me off is the data loss
15:56 schestowitz[TR2]; I have some backups
15:56 schestowitz[TR2]; but a huge effort to restore
15:56 schestowitz[TR2]; and it's a server
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15:58 Ariadne; SD cards are not reliable storage
16:01 schestowitz[TR2]; yeah
16:01 schestowitz[TR2]; I was just saying to rianne
16:01 schestowitz[TR2]; maybe I'll leave it on USB storage
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16:28 TR News; GNU 1980s https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/07/29/how-many-people-developed-gnu-in-the-1980s/
16:28 TR Bot; How Many People Developed GNU in the 1980s neritam
16:31 TR News; "rights" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/31/130245
16:31 TR Bot; Why Fedora Decided To Give CC0 Licensed Code The Boot - SoylentNews
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16:41 TR News; Secure Boot Disabled? GNOME Will Soon Warn You About it! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167921
16:41 TR News; 7 Top Free and Open Source F# Web Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167922
16:41 TR Bot; Secure Boot Disabled? GNOME Will Soon Warn You About it! | Tux Machines
16:41 TR Bot; 7 Top Free and Open Source F# Web Frameworks | Tux Machines
16:41 TR News; reComputer J101/J202 carrier boards are designed for Jetson Nano/NX/TX2 NX SoM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167923
16:41 TR Bot; reComputer J101/J202 carrier boards are designed for Jetson Nano/NX/TX2 NX SoM | Tux Machines
16:42 TR News; KDE Plasma 5.25.4 Improves Plasma Wayland for Steam Proton Games, Fixes More Bugs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167924
16:42 TR Bot; KDE Plasma 5.25.4 Improves Plasma Wayland for Steam Proton Games, Fixes More Bugs | Tux Machines
16:42 TR News; Give More Apps Rounded Corners with this GNOME Shell Extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167925
16:42 TR Bot; Give More Apps Rounded Corners with this GNOME Shell Extension | Tux Machines
16:42 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167926
16:42 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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16:53 TR News; media.ccc.de - Signal: you were the chosen one! https://media.ccc.de/v/mch2022-196-signal-you-were-the-chosen-one-
16:53 TR Bot; - Signal: you were the chosen one!
16:53 TR News; Wifi Used to Track Consumers Through Stores - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/31/1216246 Source: soylentnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/31/1216246
16:53 TR Bot; Wifi Used to Track Consumers Through Stores - SoylentNews
16:57 TR News; Who Is Collecting Data from Your Car? - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/31/1744240 Source: soylentnews | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/07/31/1744240
16:57 TR Bot; Who Is Collecting Data from Your Car? - SoylentNews
16:58 TR News; Taxes https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/21966-how-taxing-the-rich-can-help-everyone.html
16:58 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/business/21966-how-taxing-the-rich-can-help-everyone.html )
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17:02 TR News; "Canonical announced that now Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri has reached End of Life (EOL)." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/08/ubuntu-2110-reached-eol-and-how-to-add-support.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
17:02 TR Bot; Ubuntu 21.10 Reached EOL and How To Add Support
17:04 TR News; "Linux Mint, the desktop user oriented variant of Ubuntu from Ireland" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/08/download-linux-mint-21-vanessa-full-editions-with-mirrors-and-torrents.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
17:04 TR Bot; Download Linux Mint 21 "Vanessa" Full Editions with Mirrors and Torrents
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17:05 TR News; "In this tutorial, we are going to install Neos CMS on Ubuntu 22.04 OS" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-neos-cms-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
17:05 TR Bot; to Install Neos CMS on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
17:08 TR News; "sed stands for stream editor" https://opensource.com/article/22/8/automate-file-edits-sed-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
17:08 TR Bot; I use the Linux sed command to automate file edits | Opensource.com
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17:31 TR News; Stealing natural resources https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/02/chiles-lithium-provides-profit-to-the-billionaires-but-exhausts-the-land-and-the-people/ | Source: Counter Punch
17:31 TR Bot; Lithium Provides Profit to the Billionaires But Exhausts the Land and the People - CounterPunch.org
17:32 TR News; Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/02/a-cia-whistleblower-reflects-on-the-persecution-of-julian-assange/ | Source: Counter Punch
17:32 TR Bot; CIA Whistleblower Reflects on the Persecution of Julian Assange - CounterPunch.org
17:34 TR News; "Today, I want to tell you about backing up encrypted data." https://mtlynch.io/zfs-encrypted-backups/ | Source: Michael Lynch
17:34 TR Bot; Up Encrypted ZFS Data without Unlocking It mtlynch.io
17:34 TR News; "Nearly a year ago, I wrote about my hunt for better WordPress hosting and the results werent great. Heres an update" https://kevq.uk/hunt-for-better-wordpress-hosting-update/ | Source: Kev Quirk
17:34 TR Bot; Hunt for Better WordPress Hosting - Update - Kev Quirk
17:35 TR News; "Damien Miller (djm@) committed a change randomising the rekeying interval in arc4random(3) (and friends): [...]" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220731110742 | Source: Undeadly
17:35 TR Bot; Even more randomness
17:36 TR News; "Everybody knows the ZX Spectrum was better than the Commodore 64, but whats even better is Spectrum emulation on the RP2040 chip" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/zx-spectrum-on-raspberry-pi-pico | Source: Tom's Hardware
17:36 TR Bot; ZX Spectrum Emulator Runs on Raspberry Pi Pico | Tom's Hardware
17:36 TR News; "The original 6502 is an 8-bit microprocessor developed by a team that used to work for Motorola on the 6800." https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pico-powered-6502-loderunner | Source: Tom's Hardware
17:36 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico Emulates 6502 Computer and Runs Loderunner | Tom's Hardware
17:37 TR News; "Two years ago, the Pinecil V1 was announced, and since then has become PINE64s most popular consumer hardware." https://www.pine64.org/2022/07/28/july-update-a-pinecil-evolved/ | Source: Pine64
17:37 TR Bot; July Update: A Pinecil Evolved | PINE64
17:37 TR News; [Old] "Chromes hefty data collection practices are another reason to ditch the browser." https://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-chrome-browser-data | Source: Wired
17:37 TR Bot; Its time to ditch Chrome | WIRED UK
17:39 TR News; "This is said to be because the license directly threatens patent hostility against the users when the author chooses it." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/07/29/fedora-removes-creative-commons-cc0-licensed-software-leaves-fraunhofer-aac-bonus-use-opus-instead-of-aac/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
17:39 TR Bot; Fedora removes Creative Commons CC0-licensed software; leaves Fraunhofer AAC. Bonus: Use Opus instead of AAC. BaronHK's Rants
17:40 TR News; "My good friend, Wei, has a pet peeve: unintended horizontal over-scrolling on mobile." https://chenhuijing.com/blog/the-horizontal-overflow-problem/ | Source: Chen HuiJing
17:40 TR Bot; The horizontal overflow problem
17:40 TR News; "If youre into programming puzzles you probably know that theres a whole class of problems about doing something" https://batsov.com/articles/2022/08/01/clojure-tricks-number-to-digits/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
17:40 TR Bot; Clojure Tricks: Number to Digits - (think)
17:40 TR News; "One of the great advantages of print based debugging for the infrequent developer is that it requires essentially no extra knowledge." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/PrintDebuggingAndInfrequentDevs | Source: uni Toronto
17:40 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/PrintDebuggingAndInfrequentDevs
17:40 TR News; "Hello! The other day we talked about what happened when you press a key in your terminal." https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/07/28/toy-remote-login-server/ | Source: Julia Evans
17:40 TR Bot; A toy remote login server
17:41 TR News; "Every so often I wind up writing something that needs to do something more complicated than can be readily handled in some Bourne shell" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/python/PythonForStringHandling | Source: uni Toronto
17:41 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/python/PythonForStringHandling
17:42 TR News; "Normally, RStudio makes a soft launch of its products to a small group of people who have access and can give feedback before it is released to the public." https://analyticsindiamag.com/rstudio-launches-shiny-for-python-announces-change-in-brand-name/ | Source: AIM
17:42 TR Bot; RStudio launches Shiny for Python, announces change in brand name
17:43 TR News; "Okay, back to the point that Ive been 26 days without posting." https://afhub.dev/tech/indieweb/website/2022/07/28/migrating-to-codeberg-pages.html | Source: Andre Franca
17:43 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://afhub.dev/tech/indieweb/website/2022/07/28/migrating-to-codeberg-pages.html )
17:44 TR News; "Running FreshRSS has been a great experience. So much so that I almost forgot that I had Feedly account" https://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-07-30-i-just-left-feedly.html | Source: Bjrn Wrmedal
17:44 TR Bot; I Just Left Feedly! - Bjrn Wrmedal
17:47 TR News; "The eight finest books for learning statistics for data science are listed in this post." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/07/best-books-to-learn-statistics-for-data-science/ | Source: Rlang
17:47 TR Bot; Books to Learn Statistics for Data Science | R-bloggers
17:48 TR News; "Researchers from Kaspersky labs found the malware stranded in the motherboards' Unified Extensible Firmware Interface" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cosmicstrand-malware-asus-gigabyte | Source: Tom's Hardware
17:48 TR Bot; CosmicStrand Malware Infects ASUS, Gigabyte Motherboards | Tom's Hardware
17:48 TR News; "Both links have lots of technical details; the second contains a list of previously discovered UFEI rootkits" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/new-ufei-rootkit.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
17:48 TR Bot; UFEI Rootkit - Schneier on Security
17:49 TR News; "PC shipments are set to decline by 13.1 per cent this year after recording growth in 2020 and 2021." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/pc-shipments-chip-sales-growth-face-record-slump-this-year-report/93262892 | Source: India Times
17:49 TR Bot; consumer electronics: PC shipments, chip sales growth face record slump this year: Report, CIO News, ET CIO
17:49 TR News; "Since big PC makers like Apple, Dell, HP, and Lenovo, as well as major suppliers of PC peripherals like Logitech" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/keyboard-shortage-unfolds-in-russia | Source: Tom's Hardware
17:49 TR Bot; Keyboard Shortage Unfolds in Russia | Tom's Hardware
17:50 TR News; "The 2nd edition of the Zimbabwe International Drone Conference is scheduled for the 3-5th of August of 2022." https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/07/2nd-edition-of-zimbabwe-drone-conference-upon-us/ | Source: Zimbabwe
17:50 TR Bot; The 2nd edition of the drone conference in Zimbabwe is upon us - Techzim
17:51 TR News; "Now, after a decade and a half of expansion, the global smartphone market has plateaued, according to idc, a data firm" https://www.economist.com/business/2022/07/31/apple-already-sold-everyone-an-iphone-now-what | Source: The Economist
17:51 TR Bot; already sold everyone an iPhone. Now what? | The Economist
17:52 TR News; "The bill would also allow the president to impose sanctions on foreign government officials and firms that target U.S. officials with spyware" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3580301-congress-takes-aggressive-stance-against-foreign-spyware/ | Source: The Hill
17:52 TR Bot; Congress takes aggressive stance against foreign spyware | The Hill
17:53 TR News; "Much of the article, however, strikes me as problematic." https://www.datagubbe.se/propart/ | Source: Carl Svensson
17:53 TR Bot; Art: How Microsoft didn't splinter the Linux desktop | datagubbe.se
17:54 TR News; Windows TCO https://yle.fi/news/3-12559165 | Source: YLE
17:54 TR Bot; Police open probe of news agency STT's cyber attack | News | Yle Uutiset
17:56 TR News; "The Markup has identified 37 companies that are part of the rapidly growing connected vehicle data industry that seeks to monetize such data in an environment with few regulations governing its sale or use." https://themarkup.org/the-breakdown/2022/07/27/who-is-collecting-data-from-your-car | Source: The Markup
17:56 TR Bot; Who Is Collecting Data from Your Car? The Markup
17:56 TR News; "2021 marks noybs fourth year of fighting for the right to privacy" https://noyb.eu/en/annual-report-2021-out-now | Source: NYOB
17:56 TR Bot; Annual Report 2021 out now!
17:58 TR News; "The allegations surfaced in a report from the National Post" https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/1/23286824/tim-hortons-location-tracking-proposed-class-action-settlement-data-privacy-coffee-donut | Source: The Verge
17:58 TR Bot; What does Tim Hortons think your data is worth? A coffee and donut, apparently - The Verge
17:59 TR News; "Amazon has revealed that it gives police videos from its Ring doorbells without a warrant and without user consent" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/ring-gives-videos-to-police-without-a-warrant-or-user-consent.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
17:59 TR Bot; Gives Videos to Police without a Warrant or User Consent - Schneier on Security
18:00 TR News; "Remote attestation has been a technology around for decades now. Richard Stallman railed about the freedom it would take in 2005," https://gabrielsieben.tech/2022/07/29/remote-assertion-is-coming-back-how-much-freedom-will-it-take/ |
18:00 TR Bot; Remote attestation is coming back. How much freedom will it take? Gabriel Sieben
18:05 MinceR; > Everybody knows the ZX Spectrum was better than the Commodore 64
18:05 MinceR; [citation needed]
18:05 MinceR; it had a slightly faster CPU, and that's about it
18:06 MinceR; (and both were slow anyway)
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18:07 matey; <britney> the hive mind super computer is left wing and the reptilians are right wing
18:07 matey; i mean thats easier to debunk than a hollow moon
18:08 matey; at least in mainstream (ie bullshit) politics, the significant difference between the "left" and "right" is in their appeal, not their substance
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18:15 TR News; "As I picked up the discarded materials, I took time to consider each object I found." https://mahb.stanford.edu/blog/the-value-of-a-kilowatt/ | Source: uni Stanford
18:15 TR Bot; The Value of a Kilowatt - MAHB
18:17 TR News; Graft, stealing from the poor https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/07/senate-bill-subsidizing-u-s-semiconductor-production-clear-house-going-to-white-house/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
18:17 TR Bot; Senate Bill Subsidizing U.S. Semiconductor Production Clears House, Going to White House : Broadband Breakfast
18:18 TR News; "primarily known for viral dance videos and dishing up a lighter side of the [Internet]" https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3580388-more-democrats-are-using-tiktok-despite-the-warnings-from-colleagues/ | Source: The Hill
18:18 TR Bot; Many Dems voted to limit TikTok. Now theyre using it. | The Hill
18:19 TR News; "Suzanne Spaulding, a senior adviser for homeland security and director of the Defending Democratic Institutions project" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3578706-white-house-cyber-hire-highlights-diversity-challenges-in-tech-workforce/ | Source: The Hill
18:19 TR Bot; White House cyber hire highlights diversity challenges in tech workforce | The Hill
18:19 TR News; "I feel its important that such grant applications are made public so everyone has visibility into the process" https://ar.al/2022/07/29/nlnet-grant-application-for-domain/ | Source: Aral Balkan
18:19 TR Bot; NLnet Grant Application for Domain Aral Balkan
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18:29 britney; matey, attack surface
18:30 *schestowitz[TR2] recovering a server system :/
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18:37 TR News; When Windows is Down to 9% market Share | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/turkey-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/turkey-windows/
18:37 TR Bot; When Windows is Down to 9% market Share | Techrights
18:47 TR News; "Two uniformed prison officials prevented the journalists from covering the event and denied their requests to photograph" https://cpj.org/2022/07/journalists-barred-from-covering-zimbabwean-first-lady/ | Source: CPJ
18:47 TR Bot; Journalists barred from covering Zimbabwean first lady - Committee to Protect Journalists
18:47 TR News; "The video received backlash on social media and a hashtag denigrating her that translates into "Tala offends society" circulated on Twitter" https://news.yahoo.com/saudi-police-arrest-egyptian-tiktoker-211506955.html | Source: Yahoo News
18:47 TR Bot; Saudi police arrest Egyptian TikToker with millions of followers for video they claim had 'sexual content'
18:48 TR News; "The Saudi Public Security authority's official Twitter posted a statement Monday" https://www.insider.com/tala-safwan-tiktoker-youtuber-arrested-livestream-riyadh-police-2022-7 | Source: Business Insider
18:48 TR Bot; Egyptian Influencer Tala Safwan Arrested for 'Sexual' TikTok Stream
18:49 TR News; "In response to censorship, the team relocated to Riga" https://www.dw.com/en/dw-russian-marks-60th-anniversary-from-radio-jamming-to-partnerships-and-back-again/a-62653832 | Source: Deutsche Welle
18:49 TR Bot; Russian marks 60th anniversary: From radio jamming to partnerships and back again | Press | DW | 01.08.2022
18:51 TR News; "For the longest time, DStv has been the dominant player in the satellite tv space in Sub-Saharan Africa." https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/07/what-is-the-future-of-dstv/ | Source: Zimbabwe
18:51 TR Bot; What is the future of DStv? - Techzim
18:54 TR News; "Earlier this year, we published a tutorial paper Addressing the challenges of modern DNS: A comprehensive tutorial." https://blog.apnic.net/2022/07/29/addressing-the-challenges-of-modern-dns/ | Source: APNIC
18:54 TR Bot; Addressing the challenges of modern DNS | APNIC Blog
18:54 TR News; "The RIPE NCC has been collecting BGP routing data with the RIS project since late 1999." https://labs.ripe.net/author/wilhelm/ipv6-10-years-out-an-analysis-in-users-tables-and-traffic/ | Source: RIPE
18:54 TR Bot; IPv6 10 Years Out: An Analysis in Users, Tables, and Traffic | RIPE Labs
18:55 TR News; "No! Stop there! Web 2.0 was not social media! Youre rewriting history thats less than 20 years old!" https://wallabag.nixnet.services/share/62e09f2f57bce2.98743941 |
18:55 TR Bot; Don't Lie To Me About Web 2.0
18:56 TR News; "Other artists with a similarly large Spotify following include Ariana Grande" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/07/27/ed-sheeran-becomes-first-artist-to-reach-100-million-spotify-followers/ | Source: Digital Music News
18:56 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/07/27/ed-sheeran-becomes-first-artist-to-reach-100-million-spotify-followers/ )
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18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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19:00 TR News; Like Ubuntu, just a bit less hassle: Linux Mint 21 'Vanessa' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167848#comment-34491
19:00 TR Bot; New Release of Linux Mint (3 Flavours) | Tux Machines
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19:16 TR News; Links 02/08/2022: KDE Plasma 5.25.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/links-02082022-kde-plasma-5-25-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/02/links-02082022-kde-plasma-5-25-4/
19:16 TR Bot; Links 02/08/2022: KDE Plasma 5.25.4 | Techrights
19:17 TR News; KDE Plasma 5.25.4 Improves Plasma Wayland for Steam Proton Games, Fixes More Bugs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167924
19:17 TR Bot; KDE Plasma 5.25.4 Improves Plasma Wayland for Steam Proton Games, Fixes More Bugs | Tux Machines
19:18 TR News; Give More Apps Rounded Corners with this GNOME Shell Extension Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167925
19:18 TR Bot; Give More Apps Rounded Corners with this GNOME Shell Extension | Tux Machines
19:18 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167927
19:18 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:18 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167928
19:18 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:18 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167928
19:18 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167929
19:18 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:18 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167930
19:18 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:19 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167931
19:19 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
19:21 TR News; Dark Money https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/01/dark-money-pouring-secretary-state-races-featuring-big-lie-candidates | Source: Common Dreams
19:21 TR Bot; Dark Money Pouring Into Secretary of State Races Featuring 'Big Lie' Candidates
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19:25 TR News; Facial Recognition https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/02/facial-recognition-technology-down-under/ | Source: Counter Punch
19:25 TR Bot; Recognition Technology Down Under - CounterPunch.org
19:26 TR News; "Black Box adheres to the system colour scheme in GNOME." https://ar.al/2022/08/01/make-helix-editor-follow-the-system-colour-scheme/ | Source: Aral Balkan
19:26 TR Bot; Make Helix Editor follow the system colour scheme Aral Balkan
19:26 TR News; VeePN https://torrentfreak.com/veepn-agrees-to-block-torrent-traffic-and-pirate-sites-on-u-s-servers-220801/ | Source: Torrent Freak
19:26 TR Bot; Agrees to Block Torrent Traffic and Pirate Sites on U.S. Servers * TorrentFreak
19:28 TR News; "Last year, your support of the Bug Smash Fund helped us solve 241 tickets related to Tor bugs and maintenance." https://blog.torproject.org/tor-bug-smash-fund-2022/ | Source: Tor
19:28 TR Bot; Help Smash Tor Bugs! | The Tor Project
19:29 TR News; "Over these many years, weve talked about a myriad of ways in which people and companies can respond to copyright infringement." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/01/stock-photo-company-decides-to-treat-pirates-like-humans-rather-than-demons/ | Source: Techdirt
19:29 TR Bot; Photo Company Decides To Treat Pirates Like Humans, Rather Than Demons | Techdirt
19:29 TR News; "NSO Group has gone from being an under-the-radar spyware darling selling powerful phone hackery to some of the absolutely worst governments in the world to being an extremely exposed malware pariah which has sold powerful phone hackery to some of the absolute worst governments in the world." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/01/and-now-eu-commissioners-are-reporting-their-phones-were-infected-with-nso-group-malware/ | Source: Tec
19:29 TR Bot; Now EU Commissioners Are Reporting Their Phones Were Infected With NSO Group Malware | Techdirt
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19:35 TR News; <li>
19:35 TR News; Never Too Rich Or Thin: Compress Sqlite 80% https://hackaday.com/2022/08/01/never-too-rich-or-thin-compress-sqlite-80/ | Source: Hackaday
19:35 TR Bot; Too Rich Or Thin: Compress Sqlite 80% | Hackaday
19:36 TR News; "CDs are becoming largely obsolete now, thanks to the speed of the internet and the reliability and low costs of other storage media." https://hackaday.com/2022/08/01/scavenging-cds-for-flexible-parts/ | Source: Hackaday
19:36 TR Bot; CDs For Flexible Parts | Hackaday
19:36 TR News; "We spend the hour with an activist who replaced Angela Davis on the FBIs 10 Most Wanted List: Bernardine Dohrn" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/1/bernardine_dohrn_bill_ayers_weather_underground | Source: Democracy Now
19:36 TR Bot; Mother Country Radicals: Weather Undergrounds Bernardine Dohrn & Bill Ayerss Son Makes New Podcast | Democracy Now!
19:38 TR News; "There is a feverish search, conducted in books, to find ways to place the Internet within the daily texture of lived experience" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/internet-philosophy-justin-smith/ | Source: The Nation
19:38 TR Bot; The Sophist Network | The Nation
19:41 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/sFhubuz
19:41 TR Bot; tactical cats, tacticats - Album on Imgur
19:45 DaemonFC; Welp, my cousin is on another expensive vacation.
19:46 DaemonFC; When we were over there for her son's birthday party she was complaining that they had to pack up everything for their move by themselves because movers would charge then $1,800.
19:47 TR News; OpenDendrometer https://hackaday.com/2022/08/01/opendendrometer-can-measure-how-your-tree-feels/ | Source: Hackaday
19:47 TR Bot; Can Measure How Your Tree Feels | Hackaday
19:49 TR News; Michigan https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/01/michigan-supreme-court-says-photographing-fingerprinting-people-without-probable-cause-is-unconstitutional/ | Source: Techdirt
19:49 TR Bot; Supreme Court Says Photographing, Fingerprinting People Without Probable Cause Is Unconstitutional | Techdirt
19:50 TR News; Net Neutrality https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/01/democrats-strategically-push-net-neutrality-bill-that-wont-pass-and-wont-be-noticed-in-the-summer-heat/ | Source: Techdirt
19:50 TR Bot; Strategically Push Net Neutrality Bill That Wont Pass And Wont Be Noticed In The Summer Heat | Techdirt
19:52 TR News; "Over the last few months, weve been covering a ridiculous situation in which Republicans are trying to force their spam into your inboxes." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/01/marco-rubio-got-furious-at-google-because-his-fundraising-emails-were-going-to-spam-turns-out-his-email-was-misconfigured/ | Source: Techdirt
19:52 TR Bot; Rubio Got Furious At Google Because His Fundraising Emails Were Going To Spam. Turns Out His Email Was Misconfigured | Techdirt
19:53 TR News; Shotspotter https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/01/shotspotter-asks-court-to-hold-it-in-contempt-rather-than-turn-over-information-to-defense-lawyer/ | Source: Techdirt
19:53 TR Bot; Asks Court To Hold It In Contempt Rather Than Turn Over Information To Defense Lawyer | Techdirt
19:56 TR News; End of July numbers show that GNU/Linux share worldwide is estimated at 3% on desktops/laptops in spite of Microsofts crimes (like UEFI secure boot); Notice how Windows is measured at 9% market share in Turkey, down from 95% one decade ago http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/turkey-windows/
19:56 TR Bot; When Windows is Down to 9% market Share | Techrights
19:57 TR News; Antitrust investigations are not likely while Microsoft pays its competitors to stop competing and instead start helping Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/bribing-gnome/
19:57 TR Bot; Microsoft Bribing the Competition (to Get Something in Return) | Techrights
19:57 schestowitz[TR2]; DaemonFC: ^
19:57 schestowitz[TR2]; Microsoft integration
19:57 TR News; Microsoft still sends broken Web pages to GNOME Web, while GNOME is adding Office 365/OneDrive integration. http://techrights.org/2022/08/02/gnome-adding-microsoft-integration-while-bagging-foss-fund-cash/
19:57 TR Bot; Microsoft Sends Broken Web Pages to GNOME Web While GNOME is Adding Microsoft Integration | Techrights
19:57 TR News; Webspam from ZDNets sister site is being promoted in Linux Todays front page and RSS feed; paid-for promotional plugs? http://techrights.org/2022/08/01/linux-today-zdnet/
19:57 TR Bot; Weird Editorial Choices in Linux Today These Past Few Hours | Techrights
20:02 TR News; How to Create a BBS in Linux with EnigmaBBS - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-bbs-linux-with-enigmabbs/ Source: maketecheasier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/create-bbs-linux-with-enigmabbs/
20:02 TR Bot; How to Create a BBS in Linux with EnigmaBBS - Make Tech Easier
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20:13 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-1-08-02
20:13 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 1 Telegraph
20:16 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167932
20:16 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:22 ulf; "The Mozilla Foundation is an American non-profit organization that exists to ... US$300 million annually"
20:22 ulf; "The Free Software Foundation (FSF) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization" US<???> annually.
20:23 britney; Its alive!
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20:25 TR News; Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - Changing Directory - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=F6y7jhTllrg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/F6y7jhTllrg
20:25 TR Bot; Linux CLI in 60 Seconds - Changing Directory - Invidious
20:25 TR News; 10 Things To Do on Linux Mint 21 after install... - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KCV8VyYA8f4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/KCV8VyYA8f4
20:25 TR Bot; 10 Things To Do on Linux Mint 21 after install... - Invidious
20:25 TR News; Home Directory Cluttered With Dotfiles? Move Them! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tvPHmyb8AlY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/tvPHmyb8AlY
20:25 TR Bot; Home Directory Cluttered With Dotfiles? Move Them! - Invidious
20:29 britney; gemini://cerberusinvestigations.darkcloud.ca
20:29 britney; my conspiracy themed gemini capsule
20:32 TR News; Latest Issue of Linux Magazine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167933
20:32 TR Bot; Latest Issue of Linux Magazine | Tux Machines
20:33 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167934
20:33 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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21:28 AdmFubar; and you thought batshit crazyness was just a usa thing https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-queen-of-canada-romana-didulo-wants-some-american-subjects?source=articles&via=rss
21:28 TR Bot; QAnon Queen of Canada Romana Didulo Wants Some American Subjects
21:29 MinceR; it's a human thing
21:47 DaemonFC; https://www.marketwatch.com/story/one-theory-on-why-having-kids-makes-people-unhappy-2019-02-26
21:47 TR Bot; depressing reason why having kids doesnt actually make you happier - MarketWatch
21:47 DaemonFC; "A middle-income, married couple raising a child in 2015 spent 16% more than a family raising a child in 1960, according to a 2017 U.S. Department of Agriculture study on the cost to raise kids. The 1960 family would spend $202,020 in 2015 dollars, while a family in 2015 would pay on average $233,610, according to the federal analysis, which excluded the big-ticket items of college education."
21:47 DaemonFC; Yeah, but that was all of 7 years ago when money was worth about 40% more than it is now.
21:48 DaemonFC; The USD has had worse inflation in the last 3 years than it has in the 20 years prior to that.
21:48 DaemonFC; I've watched my grocery bills soar by as much in the past 2 years as I did in the 15 years before that.
21:49 DaemonFC; You go there to get a salad kit, some croutons, and a bottle of ranch, and some tomatoes, and you may as well have just both gone to Golden Corral, which has an entire salad bar on top of an all you can eat buffet.
21:50 DaemonFC; It cost me $18.70 to get 7 items at Walmart the other day. 6 of which were for a salad, and it costs $23.80 to take me and Mandy to Golden Corral. If I use their loyalty card, then I get $10 on a gift card every time we spend $100 total, so really that takes it down to about $20, and we're level with a fucking salad kit at Walmart.
21:50 DaemonFC; You can't afford NOT to eat out.
21:51 DaemonFC; It's crazy.
21:52 DaemonFC; I fucking hate this place. The damned Democrats go "Welp, sorry we raised your cost of living 30% in the past two years. We'll get rid of the 1% grocery tax for a year. That ought to salve over you starving while we hand Intel $285 billion to buy back their own stock and raise CEO pay.
21:53 DaemonFC; Mr. GULAG should go work for Intel in his bathrobe. Stallman can hand him another Free Software Award for helping to make the Management Engine nastier or something.
21:55 DaemonFC; I'm too afraid to update the UEFI firmware on my Lenovo laptop. I mean, technically I could use a Windows 10 PE environment on a USB stick just to flash the new ROM in and reboot, but lord knows what those fucking idiots have broken or locked this time, and I don't want to find out they retroactively made my computer incompatible with Linux. Fuck them!
22:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Still working on the Matt GULAG Lenovo thing.
22:09 DaemonFC; Another full recount of my experience with UEFI.
22:09 DaemonFC; It's taking forever.
22:20 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/altright.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-altright#comic )
22:20 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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22:32 ulf; weird, now the digital dvb-c channels seem online again; 100 stations of boredom and nonsense
22:33 ulf; and i hate commercials
22:39 britney; i just download the shows I want to watch, no commericals either
22:39 ulf; there is some Usian televangelist channels included, preaching wisdom
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22:40 ulf; could call them, toll free
22:40 ulf; german yellow press got a channel too, similar to the british SUN, here it is the BILD
22:41 ulf; "putin kissed germans to wake up", and an interview with the ukrainian ambassador asked, if it was necessary for Ukraine to order Drones, to strike onto Putin
22:43 ulf; "was this a good idea to order drones?"
22:44 ulf; wiped the first 70 stations again, another 20 to go
22:46 ulf; mental wasteland
22:50 ulf; Genesis - Jesus he knows me
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22:51 ulf; sadly, the station which broadcasted Star Trek TOS during the night is garbled, bad signal quality
22:58 ulf; 5minutes CNN and BBC ... deleted
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23:01 ulf; joy of painting is the only tv show remaining which doesn't trigger headache and outrage
23:02 ulf; funiest moment was, when Bob Ross showed his companion squirrel
23:03 ulf; a happy little cloud, a happy little tree, and another tree, trees too need friends
23:06 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/weekend-random-randomness-5-15-22-35.jpg
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23:19 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/02/uefi-firmware-vulnerable-to-malware-implants-worse-than-legacy-bios-ever-was/
23:19 TR Bot; UEFI firmware vulnerable to malware implants; worse than Legacy BIOS ever was. BaronHK's Rants
23:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], ^
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23:23 mjg59_; "If you can replace code in the firmware it can do bad things" is not a UEFI-specific issue (and existed in the BIOS days as well)
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23:31 phanes; one would argue that your work on secureboot laid the foundational frameworks by which most of that type of malware is developed
23:32 ulf; i question the concept already, and if hardware init didn't belong into kernel
23:32 ulf; "bios" and "uefi" duplicate most device drivers
23:33 ulf; why? what for?
23:33 DaemonFC; mjg59_ accidentally pointed out the things I've been saying all along.
23:33 DaemonFC; Including don't trust your important data to Windows because even if malware doesn't hose it, Bitlocker will act up eventually.
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23:34 *phanes checks his luks encrypted volumes
23:34 *phanes laughs at the mortals and their plight
23:34 DaemonFC; It's absolutely unforgivable that PC OEMs are allowed to push broken UEFI updates that panic Bitlocker and delete part of the Windows bootloader.
23:35 DaemonFC; They're not safe to install. They're not safe to not install. What do you do?
23:36 DaemonFC; I hear that if you don't risk everything on your laptop and install one occasionally, eventually you're not allowed to update Windows anymore and it'll complain at you to update your UEFI firmware.
23:37 DaemonFC; If you're required to update it, then there should be a requirement that it installs properly every time and that Windows knows what the fuck is going on instead of locking you out of your encrypted volume.
23:37 mjg59_; The documented process for firmware updates under Windows involves the tooling temporarily removing the Bitlocker PCR7 sealing, performing the update, and re-sealing it to the new values
23:38 DaemonFC; In most cases, installing a firmware update is more trouble than it's worth because there will just be another one every month with another pile of CVEs and it's a terrible risk of fucking up your motherboard and data loss each time you do it.
23:38 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> The documented process for firmware updates under Windows involves the tooling temporarily removing the Bitlocker PCR7 sealing, performing the update, and re-sealing it to the new values
23:38 ulf; pcr7 sealing, sounds smart
23:38 MinceR; also, it's fucking around with a codebase that is way too large
23:38 DaemonFC; Obviously the Lenovo March 2021 update for the Thinkbook 15 ITL Gen2 didn't do that and nobody at Lenovo actually tested it.
23:38 MinceR; and can brick your "computer"
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23:39 MinceR; afaict every instance of UEFI is chock full of bugs and is a disaster waiting to happen
23:39 DaemonFC; Even ten years later, it's hardly any better than it was.
23:40 MinceR; and ever so helpfully intHell ended the one way one could sort of circumvent some of that broken madness and prevent the booted OS from fucking with it, by removing CSM
23:40 ulf; CSM? was the legacy BIOS support?
23:40 DaemonFC; Yeah.
23:41 ulf; oh... then intel cannot boot my amd64.iso anymore
23:41 MinceR; "legacy" boot
23:41 DaemonFC; The CSM was basically the one way to run it where the OS couldn't poke around and fuck something up using native UEFI interfaces.
23:41 MinceR; "Compatibility Support Module"
23:42 MinceR; also the one way to run it so that the boot firmware is actually a lot less likely to just freeze when it sees your efivars and never boot or even let you enter setup ever again
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23:43 DaemonFC; openSUSE had a lot of documentation to the effect of "We can do this with UEFI, but we don't because many implementations are too broken to trust.".
23:43 DaemonFC; You can tell they don't like it.
23:43 MinceR; i guess suse got rid of those troublesome people that dared not to like UEFI since then
23:43 DaemonFC; You almost have to just figure out what's the minimal amount of interaction you can have with it and hope that doesn't fuck it up.
23:43 MinceR; in the age of "modern", such sinful thoughts are not tolerated anymore
23:44 ulf; the minimal interaction is this: removing all support for UEFI from kernel and boot loader
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23:44 MinceR; then it won't boot at all
23:44 MinceR; on alleged "computers" with no CSM
23:44 ulf; removed support for uefi from uboot-loader too... it's simply not required for anything
23:45 ulf; GRUB is weird too, prefer syslinux/isolinux still
23:45 DaemonFC; mjg59_ made another good point by mistake. Lenovo (presumably other OEMs) deal with Secure Boot by adding their own certificate. Nobody audits the stuff that gets signed with those certificates. So all you need to do is run something that was signed by an OEM (which have FAMOUSLY AWESOME SECURITY PRACTICES.....LOL) and exploit a vulnerability in it.
23:46 ulf; i don't trust this type of software, GRUB, UEFI all this
23:46 DaemonFC; They build backdoors into it for themselves and then sign off on their own poorly written programs.
23:47 DaemonFC; Nobody is monitoring what they do with it. The whole "Secure Boot" thing is a sham.
23:47 MinceR; MICROS~1 also build backdoors in their own shit
23:47 DaemonFC; Because the user can't delete the certificates it comes with and then put in ones they actually trust.
23:47 MinceR; like silently elevating in UAC if your executable is named in a particular way
23:47 DaemonFC; MinceR, There's malware that includes the Windows 7 calculator because of that.
23:47 DaemonFC; I posted on my old blog that eventually that would happen.
23:47 DaemonFC; In 2009!
23:47 MinceR; that's the sort of "security" uefi and "secure boot" were "engineered" to lock you into
23:48 DaemonFC; I not only nailed it, but I think I said it was coming at least several years before anyone did that.
23:48 DaemonFC; Yes, the "silent elevations" to make the "annoying security prompts" go away.
23:49 ulf; good news is, in worst case, i could live with a Raspi Zero W
23:49 MinceR; you could live with ThreadX?
23:49 MinceR; and "raspberry os" with additional MICROS~1 malware?
23:49 ulf; i don't want it, at least it wouldn't lock out my firmware.img being booted
23:49 MinceR; as far as you know
23:50 ulf; i created my own distribution without any support for UEFI
23:50 MinceR; until some website exploits some buggy code and/or backdoor planted in it
23:50 MinceR; this whole industry is just shit built on top of shit, with shit practices, and with sociopaths in charge of most of it
23:51 MinceR; and if you try to compete with it, they destroy you
23:51 ulf; just saying, a raspi with 512MiB RAM sufficed for me, can build everything from source with it... still working on tinycc integration
23:51 ulf; because, in comparison to the GNU/FSF toolchain, it's fast
23:51 MinceR; at this point, the best thing i can expect is some natural catastrophe that quickly and painlessly wipes out all human life
23:51 MinceR; humans are incapable of anything better
23:52 MinceR; a raspi with 512 MB RAM sufficed for me to see that even terminal emulators can be painfully slow
23:52 MinceR; yay.
23:52 MinceR; and i ended up using konsole because it was somewhat less painfully slow than urxvt and libvte
23:53 ulf; well, no wonder the terminal emulator is slow, if it's build upon GNU/FSF software
23:54 MinceR; good luck getting anything other than GNU/Linux and systemd/Linux to run on it
23:55 MinceR; at least the old ones had more than just one Linux distro supporting them
23:56 ulf; simply didn't have time yet, to tailor some firmware for raspberry
23:56 MinceR; or the interest
23:57 MinceR; and of course the raspberry pi foundation doesn't care anymore
23:57 MinceR; they don't even care not to ship another NSA backdoor in their distro
23:57 MinceR; or to set things up so that APT doesn't phone home to MICROS~1 every time you do an update
23:57 MinceR; then again, that latter thing is just pure malice
23:58 ulf; and i had seen, the zero w model i would test, will remain in production until 2026
23:58 MinceR; if they weren't malicious about it, the sources.list.d file would have just been installed from a package, and you could remove it
23:58 MinceR; they didn't like that, so they wrote it from a script, every time you remove it
23:58 ulf; i won't use any GNOMEified Debian ever
23:59 MinceR; i'm not sure how things would be different if this industry openly and deliberately did everything in their power to make users miserable and exert as much control over them as possible
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