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2 AM, August 1

02:25 schestowitz-TR; gmnisrv and gmni now installed on TM-new, I'm giving up for now as I cannot reach it from the inside or the inside

02:25 schestowitz-TR; the main config file is an ini, /usr/etc/gmnisrv.ini, not /etc/gmnisrv.ini

02:25 schestowitz-TR; but I tried the latter also

02:25 schestowitz-TR; I've commented out several things I tried. To start the server just run gmnisrv, though any client of proxy I tried

02:25 schestowitz-TR; cannot reach it, I evern asked kaniini if the hv has a firewall (no!) and checked the tmux sessionc

02:25 schestowitz-TR; called "firefox". To see the command history tmux a -t logs

02:26 schestowitz-TR; I'\m giving up for now in order to catch up with news

02:26 schestowitz-TR; s/firefox/firewall/

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4 AM, August 1

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6 AM, August 1

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06:58 Techrights-sec2; remember I added NFtables to tm-new, that's how the scripts ban.sh and ban-ssh.sh can block further attacks from hosts which have been attacking.

06:58 Techrights-sec2; being able to filter those out would be the only reason to keep NFTables around

06:58 Techrights-sec2; that and its 1000x easier to configure than IPTables, though that still doesn't

06:58 Techrights-sec2; say much about ease of use

06:58 Techrights-sec2; I've updated PS1 for bash and busybox ash:

06:58 Techrights-sec2; PS1='\u:\w\$ '

06:58 Techrights-sec2; and PS1="%n:%~%% " for zsh

06:59 Techrights-sec2; they can be overridden in ~/.profile

06:59 Techrights-sec2; MQTT now also works for notification about db updates for the site


7 AM, August 1

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07:40 schestowitz-TR; "the media" tries to distract from Linux 5.19

07:40 schestowitz-TR; making it all about Apple

07:40 schestowitz-TR; can you think of a way, in

07:40 schestowitz-TR; tmux a -t logs

07:40 schestowitz-TR; to get gemini to resppond on part 1965?

07:40 schestowitz-TR; it's very strange, that ought to work

07:40 Techrights-sec2; checking

07:40 Techrights-sec2; gemini is not running

07:40 Techrights-sec2; nft is now open on tcp 1965

07:46 schestowitz-TR; I'll show you the config file, I tried external oirigiginally

07:46 schestowitz-TR; it works

07:46 schestowitz-TR; off we go

07:46 schestowitz-TR; the working dir is /home/gemini/gemini

07:46 schestowitz-TR; with certs in same locattion as with agate

07:46 schestowitz-TR; so it'll be consistent

07:46 schestowitz-TR; yes, meh is what I put there

07:46 schestowitz-TR; in index.gmi

07:47 schestowitz-TR; this one supports some CGI thought

07:47 schestowitz-TR; soi we could in theory add some scripting, e.g. search

07:47 schestowitz-TR; there are off the shelf html->gmi convertors, but I cannot remember their names without looking up

07:48 Techrights-sec2; It's not listeningto the external IPv4 address only the external IPv6 address

07:48 Techrights-sec2; and that's not in use

07:48 Techrights-sec2; try now

07:48 Techrights-sec2; it says, "meh"

07:48 Techrights-sec2; ack

07:48 Techrights-sec2; yes but some adjustments to the sqlite3 database are needed for fulltext searches

07:48 Techrights-sec2; or some of the tools we have already can be copied / modified

07:52 schestowitz-TR; I need some time for catchiing uo, overslept a bit, and then bothered by a phonecall regarding something I ignore/won't pick up

07:52 schestowitz-TR; trying to refocus here

07:52 schestowitz-TR; at least gemini is all sorted now

07:52 schestowitz-TR; this one of c, not trust, and may be no longer maintained

07:52 schestowitz-TR; d

07:52 schestowitz-TR; agplv4 or later by devault

07:52 schestowitz-TR; *v3

07:53 Techrights-sec2; ack

07:53 Techrights-sec2; ?

07:53 Techrights-sec2; which one is not maintained?

07:56 schestowitz-TR; the official page is down, the site is the capsule in fact

07:56 schestowitz-TR; but the code is in sourcehut

07:56 schestowitz-TR; devault is trying to focus on Hare now

07:56 schestowitz-TR; that does not mean nobody wlese will pick up if/when needed

07:56 schestowitz-TR; afaik, it's feature-complete almost

07:56 schestowitz-TR; agate was like "my first gemini" capsule

07:56 schestowitz-TR; does only the basics

07:56 schestowitz-TR; do you want me to start a mockup of front page?

07:56 schestowitz-TR; it can be made to look almost identical to https, but irc andn other pages need rewriting for s gemini "base"

07:56 schestowitz-TR; let's wait till http is finalised

07:57 Techrights-sec2; ack

07:57 Techrights-sec2; too soon, the HTTP site needs to be further along first

07:57 Techrights-sec2; otherwise every change will lead to a cascade of modfications

07:57 Techrights-sec2; were marius and rianne ok with the workflow?

07:57 Techrights-sec2; Another way would be to include the metadata and the body in a single text file

07:57 Techrights-sec2; using a template and then have the script split out the pieces


8 AM, August 1

08:00 schestowitz-TR; rianne is fine with it, but she did not try adding images yet

08:00 schestowitz-TR; that's work in progress because of inotify

08:00 schestowitz-TR; for now I wget and take the file name

08:00 schestowitz-TR; marius probably sent me mail yesterday, but I will open email tonight

08:00 schestowitz-TR; some of our other "contributors" (linking to their own sites, always) help shift the topic of 5.19

08:00 schestowitz-TR; to "Apple Ailicon" along with the Microsoft Register et al

08:00 schestowitz-TR; you can see what I mean in front page old old-tuxmachines, not tuxmachines-new

08:00 schestowitz-TR; I did not copy these across

08:01 Techrights-sec2; yes, if there only were a foundation or some other organization which

08:01 Techrights-sec2; had a lot of money which could be used to promote and advance Linux ...

08:01 Techrights-sec2; checking

08:03 schestowitz-TR; btw, currently gemini is not in rc.d or similar openrc or whatever alpine uses

08:03 schestowitz-TR; as I ran short of making it work I did not look into adding it

08:03 schestowitz-TR; a startup script can be added to git

08:03 schestowitz-TR; I added robots.tx via git, but that did not propagane to prod

08:07 Techrights-sec2; the one article makes it almost look like Linus even uses MacOS instead

08:07 Techrights-sec2; an rc script can be made, it's easy

08:07 Techrights-sec2; btw 81.154.171.101 is also spamming /var/log/messages with git logins every

08:07 Techrights-sec2; minute or two, MQTT is much more efficient on bandwidth, etc. too

08:07 Techrights-sec2; it seems it still has to pull manually but maybe it was due to git getting

08:07 Techrights-sec2; tangled again. I had to straighten it out a few hours ago and pull manually

08:07 Techrights-sec2; I say the robots.txt change but did not look at the contents

08:08 schestowitz-TR; as the commit log shows, it's a very basic file, a placeholder

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08:15 Techrights-sec2; ack

08:15 Techrights-sec2; seems good

08:15 Techrights-sec2; what is the path / full command to launch gmnisrv and where is the config file

08:15 Techrights-sec2; located

08:15 Techrights-sec2; yes, but where is the configuration file?

08:15 Techrights-sec2; /etc/gmnisrv.ini

08:17 schestowitz-TR; I'll get on with links for now

08:17 schestowitz-TR; deep inside I am very angry (that other thing)

08:17 schestowitz-TR; and want to just put a stop sign on it,

08:17 schestowitz-TR; get on with what actually matters

08:17 schestowitz-TR; if you ru which gmnisrv

08:17 schestowitz-TR; it'll give you the full path

08:17 schestowitz-TR; just ruun the binary

08:17 schestowitz-TR; there is optional -c option if you want to use an alternative config (ini) file

08:17 schestowitz-TR; but the current location is logical and consistent with alpine standards

08:17 schestowitz-TR; I've left commented out some contingencies

08:17 schestowitz-TR; currently there is also a cert for serving the same files from news.tuxmachines.org

08:17 schestowitz-TR; I suggest putting that file in git also, but that would likely be a new directory, most likely

08:17 schestowitz-TR; named gemini

08:17 schestowitz-TR; with the rc stuff, the configs, and later on code related to it

08:17 schestowitz-TR; if there is shared code across Git-TR/gemini, then we need to think carefully how

08:17 schestowitz-TR; not to maintain the same functionality in two repos

08:17 schestowitz-TR; as that would add much overhead

08:17 schestowitz-TR; around midnight last night I did all the end-of-month tasks, many are gemini-relared

08:17 schestowitz-TR; I get better and faster at doing these, can finish all the tasks in less than 20 mins (some not relaed

08:17 schestowitz-TR; to sites at all)

08:17 schestowitz-TR; no, the config file is in /usr/etc/gmnisrv.ini

08:19 schestowitz-TR; fg

08:19 schestowitz-TR; I stopped the current daemon

08:20 Techrights-sec2; It's ok to resume. Much more work is needed on the init file,

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9 AM, August 1

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11 AM, August 1

11:06 schestowitz-TR; 0/

11:06 schestowitz-TR; back

11:13 schestowitz-TR; I got all the files, you can delete the tarball

11:13 schestowitz-TR; going to town later, so a bit tight with time

11:13 schestowitz-TR; we need to have sqlite backups scripted at some point, and rsync from server to offsite

11:13 schestowitz-TR; sorry, just arriving at the scene

11:13 schestowitz-TR; apk can keep the package updated

11:13 schestowitz-TR; better not to change the path of the binary

11:13 schestowitz-TR; it would cause confusion for package manager

11:13 schestowitz-TR; samer for default location of ini file

11:13 schestowitz-TR; which in turn specifies custom dirs (which is fine)

11:13 schestowitz-TR; been over a week now and daniel p. runs his new site on a domain neither i nor w3c can access

11:13 schestowitz-TR; some very big mitake there

11:13 schestowitz-TR; or maybe icann or aimilar censor the domain at dns level, but I doubt it

11:13 Techrights-sec2; back

11:13 Techrights-sec2; I thought there was an error with the scaling script:

11:13 Techrights-sec2; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/31/Skrooge_2.28.0_released.shtml

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/07/31/Skrooge_2.28.0_released.shtml

11:13 Techrights-sec2; and, although the above image did not use it, there was, so it's fixed now

11:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Skrooge 2.28.0 released

11:13 Techrights-sec2; tar'ed the old document root, the one from the 19th

11:14 Techrights-sec2; The package 'mosquitto-clients' might be needed.

11:14 Techrights-sec2; looking at the init script for gmnisrv

11:14 Techrights-sec2; gmnisrv ended up in /usr/bin by accident instead of /usr/sbin

11:14 Techrights-sec2; how is it maintained / updated?

11:14 Techrights-sec2; we should probably make a second Git repository on tm-new for sysadmin

11:14 Techrights-sec2; configurations and scripts

11:15 Techrights-sec2; See /etc/logrotate.d/gmnisrv /etc/init.d/gmnisrv

11:15 Techrights-sec2; ok thanks

11:15 Techrights-sec2; the sqlite3 backups should be easy, just a matter of locking the file while

11:15 Techrights-sec2; gzipping a copy

11:15 Techrights-sec2; ok np

11:15 Techrights-sec2; interesting

11:15 Techrights-sec2; possible

11:18 schestowitz-TR; the tm gemini capsule says connection refused, so I assume you work on something or powered down the thing

11:18 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile I'll catch up with links

11:18 schestowitz-TR; going to down (many things to do), then shift at work 5:30-1am

11:18 schestowitz-TR; then free till weekend

11:18 schestowitz-TR; I took holidays

11:19 schestowitz-TR; btw, they said next meeting would be sugust 1st

11:19 schestowitz-TR; here we are and not a word

11:19 schestowitz-TR; HR tricks

11:19 schestowitz-TR; in the meantime I get paid but I want out by year's end

11:19 schestowitz-TR; they have weaponised workers' protections against workers

11:19 schestowitz-TR; HR and lawyers...

11:19 Techrights-sec2; yes, there has been a lot of work here, checking ...

11:19 Techrights-sec2; it's listening to localhost exclusively, again

11:19 Techrights-sec2; HR is not about worker protections rather to protect the administration against

11:19 Techrights-sec2; the workers

11:20 Techrights-sec2; fixed, somenhow the gmnisrv configuratio nfile got reverted to earlier

11:22 schestowitz-TR; at some point we need to set a new group for sharing of gemini .gmi files across accounts, e.g. from sqlite to ~gemini/gemini

11:22 schestowitz-TR; for now I just make index.gmi liberally accessible

11:23 Techrights-sec2; it shows a walloftext atm

11:23 Techrights-sec2; ok but a priority should be making a second repository for system administration

11:23 Techrights-sec2; the question is how to have it a shared hierarchy yet preserve the filesystem

11:23 Techrights-sec2; permissions. Perhaps that can't be done.

11:23 Techrights-sec2; If it is an XOR choice, I'd say keep it shared and let the deployed files

11:23 Techrights-sec2; keep track of their own permissions

11:33 schestowitz-TR; if "gemini.tm" becomes operations for new nodes, then it can already be treated as tandem for "old"

11:33 schestowitz-TR; because there is no gemini at all for old

11:33 schestowitz-TR; I've spent a lot ogf time trying to keep new in sync for testing's sake,

11:33 schestowitz-TR; but when someone else submits a story I don't add it yet

11:33 schestowitz-TR; also, for the time being adding fgollowup links

11:33 schestowitz-TR; is only done in "old" because it's a lot of work

11:33 schestowitz-TR; there was a tech media story the other day about gemini and capsules that are active grew a bit faster lately

11:33 schestowitz-TR; maybe people with free time (holidays)

11:33 schestowitz-TR; tm would be the first "proper" linux news site in geminispace

11:33 schestowitz-TR; we have the skills and existing code to make it work fast, others barely know what this thing is

11:33 schestowitz-TR; last month TR served 400k pages in gemini://

11:33 schestowitz-TR; june was 500k, but still steady

11:34 schestowitz-TR; was afk, back now

11:34 Techrights-sec2; ok, the group gemtext is now a shared group for sharing of .gmi files

11:34 Techrights-sec2; :)

11:34 Techrights-sec2; also making use of the adm group for reading logs and sys for scripts

11:36 schestowitz-TR; excellent, so it's getting to the point where we want it to be

11:36 schestowitz-TR; sorry, I need to catch up with feeds and post

11:36 schestowitz-TR; before we leave

11:36 Techrights-sec2; ack

11:36 schestowitz-TR; it'll get cloudy circa 3pm, so want to leave in 1-2 hours

11:36 schestowitz-TR; fridge is almost empty already

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11:54 schestowitz-TR; cleaned feeds, another refresh round

11:54 schestowitz-TR; Daily Links, otherlinks etc. can come later

11:54 schestowitz-TR; I think Gemini can really screw GAFAM if it picks up millions of users (IF!)

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noon, August 1

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12:13 Techrights-sec2; ack

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3 PM, August 1

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15:33 schestowitz-TR; sent to bank

15:33 schestowitz-TR; argued a lot

15:33 schestowitz-TR; as a goodwill gesture for bad service they gave us 117 pounds off

15:33 schestowitz-TR; so it sort of paid off, in a matter of 30 mins

15:34 Techrights-sec2; ack

15:34 Techrights-sec2; what is up with having a query string in the image URL ?

15:34 Techrights-sec2; http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff,_Sponsorted_Puff_Pieces,_and_Leftovers.shtml

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/01/Red_Hat__IBM_Fluff,_Sponsorted_Puff_Pieces,_and_Leftovers.shtml

15:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Red Hat / IBM Fluff, Sponsorted Puff Pieces, and Leftovers

15:37 schestowitz-TR; a) query string is a known issue

15:37 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I have to rename after wget added weird symbols to filename

15:37 schestowitz-TR; b) the escalation to a manager helps as well as veiled threat we'd take all the money elsewhere

15:38 schestowitz-TR; it's enough money to live on for over a decade (if you live stingy)

15:38 schestowitz-TR; the turnaround was very visible and it took a lot of persuation when she lost the argument

15:38 schestowitz-TR; but the lessons was

15:38 schestowitz-TR; 1) banks can do anything they want and leap past the red tape

15:38 schestowitz-TR; 2) you can be compensated without even asking for it, esp. if they risk losing a client

15:38 schestowitz-TR; 3) rianne could not do this on her own, that's why I ended up phjoning to "book" only to be told

15:38 schestowitz-TR; I cannot book

15:38 schestowitz-TR; vulnmerable little asian women don't scare them

15:39 Techrights-sec2; should the script rename the files so as to trim off the query string?

15:41 schestowitz-TR; query strings ought not to exist in images in the first place

15:41 schestowitz-TR; it's a webcancer

15:41 schestowitz-TR; I think it's used for nothing but spying/tracking

15:41 schestowitz-TR; even on images

15:41 schestowitz-TR; even css has been weaponised like this

15:41 schestowitz-TR; e.g. proprietary fonts like Daniel Alekstanderson or whatever his anme was(Opera/Norway)

15:41 schestowitz-TR; btw, we found some veg quarter price, took everything

15:41 schestowitz-TR; it tastes better when you know it's discounted ;-)

15:47 schestowitz-TR; ----

15:47 schestowitz-TR; side note: bankers like to say customers are v<lued

15:47 schestowitz-TR; and that they are not undertaffed

15:47 schestowitz-TR; then you point out to the m that we both klnow you're lying to oinselkf

15:47 schestowitz-TR; and nthat ultimately banks are abotu "efficiencies" and issuing more loans, derivatives etc.

15:47 schestowitz-TR; with money they barely even (maybe 1:10 ratio asets/labilities)

15:47 schestowitz-TR; but still noo shops will have staff adcmitting these issues

15:47 schestowitz-TR; even if you tell them your're actively campaigning to stop this class robbery and impoverishing agend (to workers)

15:47 schestowitz-TR; they're too afria<d of losing the job

15:47 schestowitz-TR; they cannot afford to lose it

15:48 schestowitz-TR; and the boot is tighters on the neck in these times

15:48 schestowitz-TR; no leeway for questniooning the employer

15:48 schestowitz-TR; growing one's own food is very economic if you can ensure they always have decent soil, enough water, and you won't be moving homes while they're still

15:48 schestowitz-TR; capable of bearing fruit/root

15:48 schestowitz-TR; in our case, the soil is shallow and there are animals posing risk to any crops

15:48 schestowitz-TR; there's a chinese couple two houses down from ours that grows a few things

15:50 schestowitz-TR; growing one's own food is becoming more economic, but only if you cannot find discounted

15:50 schestowitz-TR; on weds we might pursue a lot more, it's sometimes thrilling to see how much can be saved

15:50 schestowitz-TR; but not lately, it has gotten harder


4 PM, August 1

16:10 schestowitz-TR; zero-summers

16:10 schestowitz-TR; any person buying food for lower price or obtaining free food is "loss sales"

16:10 schestowitz-TR; in a "captive market"

16:12 Techrights-sec2; ack

16:12 schestowitz-TR; if a "good" (generous, not low-budget) meal is 10 euros per day per person, a couple is 600 eruos per month. Get the same

16:12 schestowitz-TR; "premium" items quarter price and you save 450-x12 euros per year

16:12 schestowitz-TR; about 5k

16:12 schestowitz-TR; if you work for Gulag you probably get food at work

16:12 schestowitz-TR; "free" food to motivate you to stay until 8pm

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16:28 Techrights-sec2; ack

16:29 schestowitz-TR; this past friday ot thurd we had a small dead bird on the pavement to the door

16:29 schestowitz-TR; with flies and other insects already all over it

16:29 schestowitz-TR; rianne was shocked

16:29 schestowitz-TR; but all animals die eventually

16:30 schestowitz-TR; don't think it was window collision

16:36 Techrights-sec2; otr: did you bury it ?

16:36 schestowitz-TR; green bird, reccyclable, biological, organic... inc. bones

16:36 schestowitz-TR; rianne's choice

16:43 Techrights-sec2; ack

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17:59 schestowitz-TR; planned reboot

17:59 schestowitz-TR; going to take a break now

17:59 schestowitz-TR; all good on the posts front

17:59 schestowitz-TR; and we're happy after some annoyances

17:59 schestowitz-TR; the enw sis calm

17:59 schestowitz-TR; the trolls make Linux 5.19 something about "Apple"

17:59 schestowitz-TR; but f* em


6 PM, August 1

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18:00 schestowitz-TR; *the news is calm (very bad typos there)

18:28 *Now talking on #boycottnovell

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9 PM, August 1

21:20 Techrights-sec; ack

21:20 Techrights-sec; anagrams

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23:25 schestowitz-TR; [23:10] <schestowitz[TR2]> once again a series on EPO corruption will lead us to exposing state level corruption

23:25 schestowitz-TR; [23:10] <schestowitz[TR2]> next month

23:25 schestowitz-TR; [23:10] <schestowitz[TR2]> it's all connected

23:25 schestowitz-TR; Breaking Out the Champagne for a Landmark Occasion | Techrights htthttp://techrights.org/2022/08/djukanovic-and-campinos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techr

http://techrights.org/2022/08/djukanovic-and-campinos/

↺ gemini://gemini.techr

23:25 schestowitz-TR; ights.org/2022/08/01/djukanovic-and-campinos/

23:25 schestowitz-TR; 45k techrights gemini reqwuests today

23:25 schestowitz-TR; if tuxmachines gemini capsule acts different from the site, e.g. git front end, we can deploy there too a gemini https proxy

23:25 schestowitz-TR; but its value would not be so high

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