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00:01 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
00:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
00:01 TR News; (NEW): Corporate Coup Against GNU http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Corporate_Coup_Against_GNU.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Corporate_Coup_Against_GNU.gmi
00:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Corporate Coup Against GNU
00:01 TR News; (NEW): Microsoft Proxies-Like Tactics: Canonical, Linux Foundation, and OSI http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Microsoft_Proxies_Like_Tactics_Canonical_Linux_Foundation_and_O.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Microsoft_Proxies_Like_Tactics_Canonical_Linux_Foundation_and_O.gmi
00:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Microsoft Proxies-Like Tactics: Canonical, Linux Foundation, and OSI
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00:03 TR News; Links 28/09/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.7 and 9.1 Beta; SpiralLinux 11.220925 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/spirallinux-11-220925/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/28/spirallinux-11-220925/
00:03 TR Bot; Links 28/09/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.7 and 9.1 Beta; SpiralLinux 11.220925 | Techrights
00:15 TR News; My Thoughts About Linux Today - DT LIVE! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac_P5y8wLfo
00:15 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=ac_P5y8wLfo
00:15 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://y.com.sb/watch?v=ac_P5y8wLfo )
00:16 TR News; Arch Linux Finally Puts An End To Python 2!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=N9aStGxBSAw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/N9aStGxBSAw
00:16 TR Bot; Arch Linux Finally Puts An End To Python 2!! - Invidious
00:16 TR News; How to install Notepadqq on Linux Mint 21 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1UJ-LNmkFiI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/1UJ-LNmkFiI
00:16 TR Bot; How to install Notepadqq on Linux Mint 21 - Invidious
00:17 TR News; GTA 6 Hacker "Teapot" Has Been Arrested in the UK - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bLE4jHF4ee0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/bLE4jHF4ee0
00:17 TR Bot; GTA 6 Hacker "Teapot" Has Been Arrested in the UK - Invidious
00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:20 TR News; "plus diversity, and the growing role of the Linux Foundation." Linux Foundation is NOT for diversity! https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/700 see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ and http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/
00:20 TR Bot; The Linux Kernel Gets Rusty
00:20 TR Bot; People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights
00:20 TR Bot; Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define Support | Techrights
00:21 TR News; Linux Foundation is for imperialism, NOT diversity http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/
00:21 TR Bot; Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights
00:23 TR News; James Bottomley: Paying Maintainers isnt a Magic Bullet https://blog.hansenpartnership.com/paying-maintainers-isnt-a-magic-bullet/ not everyone chases money
00:23 TR Bot; Paying Maintainers isnt a Magic Bullet | James Bottomley's random Pages
00:24 TR News; Nibble Stew: "Why is it that package managers are unnecessarily hard?" - or are they? https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/09/why-is-it-that-package-managers-are.html Source: Jussi Pakkanen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/09/why-is-it-that-package-managers-are.html
00:24 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: "Why is it that package managers are unnecessarily hard?" or are they?
00:25 TR News; Tuareg version 3.0.0 (stable) released on 27 September 2022. Needs to DELETE the Microsoft prison, GitHub, which is an attack on Free software. https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Tuareg
00:25 TR Bot; Tuareg - Free Software Directory
00:26 TR News; "Despite the occasional shenanigansdelayed talks, one talk cancellation, and worst of all: running out of coffee and tea after lunchwe hope it was enjoyable for all." https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2022/wrapping-up-ten-years-of-guix-in-paris/ http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/
00:26 TR Bot; Wrapping up Ten Years of Guix in Paris 2022 Blog GNUGuix
00:26 TR Bot; Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights
00:31 TR News; OSI has shifted into a Microsoft front and GPL violations enabler: "As part of this, the OSI is putting more emphasis on its [Microsoft] ClearlyDefined project." https://www.zdnet.com/article/open-source-initiative-expands-its-role-to-ai-and-machine-learning/ http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/
00:31 TR Bot; Source Initiative expands its role to AI and machine learning | ZDNET
00:31 TR Bot; In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights
00:31 TR News; OSI is likely more corrupt than 'Linux' Foundation. It should be executed like Microsoft.
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00:33 TR News; OSI is nowadays enabling frauds and rapists from Microsoft
00:35 TR News; The end of premium for iNsecure iDiots is over https://itwire.com/mobility/apple-to-cut-back-on-iphone-14-production-as-demand-drops-claim.html
00:35 TR Bot; - Apple to cut back on iPhone 14 production as demand drops: claim
00:36 TR News; 5 Best Free Self-Hosted Music Streaming Software https://linuxiac.com/best-free-self-hosted-music-streaming-software/ Source: Linuxiac | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxiac.com/best-free-self-hosted-music-streaming-software/
00:36 TR Bot; 5 Best Free Self-Hosted Music Streaming Software
00:41 TR News; (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Photo Booth http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Photo_Booth.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_Photo_Booth.gmi
00:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Photo Booth
00:45 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/push.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-push#comic )
00:45 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
00:45 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/today_s_howtos.4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/today_s_howtos.4.gmi
00:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
00:48 TR News; (NEW): Coming soon - my book Linux for the rest of us http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Coming_soon_my_book_Linux_for_the_rest_of_us.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Coming_soon_my_book_Linux_for_the_rest_of_us.gmi
00:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Coming soon - my book Linux for the rest of us
00:48 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi
00:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
00:53 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: FLOSS Weekly, Arch, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Shows_and_Videos_FLOSS_Weekly_Arch_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Shows_and_Videos_FLOSS_Weekly_Arch_and_More.gmi
00:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: FLOSS Weekly, Arch, and More
00:54 TR News; Digital identity: What the World Bank wont talk about - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/digital-identity-world-bank/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/digital-identity-world-bank/
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00:54 TR Bot; Digital identity: What the World Bank won't talk about - Access Now
00:54 TR News; U.S. Congressional briefing: what overturning Roe v. Wade means for digital rights - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/us-congressional-briefing-roe-v-wade-digital-rights/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/us-congressional-briefing-roe-v-wade-digital-rights/
00:54 TR Bot; U.S. Congressional briefing: what overturning Roe v. Wade means for digital rights - Access Now
00:55 TR News; Anti-RMS with pseudo-feminist angle https://www.davidrevoy.com/article928/portrait-studies-the-feminist-five
00:55 TR Bot; Portrait studies: The Feminist Five. - David Revoy
00:55 TR News; (NEW): Free Software, Package Managers, Paying Maintainers, and More Openwashing/Microsoft PR From the Open Source Initiative http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Free_Software_Package_Managers_Paying_Maintainers_and_More_Open.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/28/Free_Software_Package_Managers_Paying_Maintainers_and_More_Open.gmi
00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Software, Package Managers, Paying Maintainers, and More Openwashing/Microsoft PR From the Open Source Initiative
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01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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02:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Continuing my cops are as dangerous to the victim as they are to anyone.....
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 DaemonFC; A 15 year old girl who was being kidnapped by her father was shot to death by the police.
02:20 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/27/waukegan-man-charged-after-allegedly-climbing-into-chicago-police-training-center-grabbing-officers-guns-before-being-shot/
02:20 TR Bot; Waukegan man charged after allegedly climbing into Chicago police training center, grabbing officers' guns before being shot
02:21 DaemonFC; Amusing side note: The Chicago Police didn't notice that this guy shouldn't be on the fifth floor of a restricted access area, in their armory.
02:22 DaemonFC; "He entered the building through a propped open door to the fire escape on the fifth floor.
02:22 DaemonFC; Members of the SWAT team were conducting a training exercise and had some of their guns on a table.
02:22 DaemonFC; Patrick picked up two of the guns, which had non-lethal rounds in them, Brown said.
02:22 DaemonFC; Brown said Patrick pointed the two guns at officers in the room and one of the officers then shot the man."
02:22 DaemonFC; Darwin Awards honorable mention.
02:22 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
02:22 DaemonFC; "You pointed some MP5s filled with training rounds at some heavily armed police officers....."
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-280922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-280922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-280922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-280922.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 28, 2022
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02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 28, 2022
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 28, 2022
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02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, September 28, 2022
02:46 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-28.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-28.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:56 DaemonFC; https://github.com/intel/intel-vaapi-driver
02:56 TR Bot; - intel/intel-vaapi-driver: VA-API user mode driver for Intel GEN Graphics family
02:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Yeah, I looked into this.
02:57 DaemonFC; I'm actually exempt from the Mesa3d fuckery going on in Fedora 37 because Intel handles it with a device driver that's in RPM Fusion and it doesn't touch Mesa3d.
02:58 DaemonFC; It does the decode in Intel VAAPI Driver and then buffers the work to be sent along back and forth between the Mesa3d Intel drivers and the hardware.
02:58 DaemonFC; AMD and Nouveau handle this with Mesa3d code in the driver itself.
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02:59 DaemonFC; So essentially what Red Hat has done to Fedora users is (a) if you use Intel, you're fine if you have intel-vaapi-driver from RPM Fusion. If you have AMD or Nvidia and want hardware accelerated video decode, you now need their proprietary driver -or- to rebuild the Mesa3d RPMs having altered the .spec file to flip the hardware decode back on.
03:00 DaemonFC; Leigh123Linux says there is currently no interest in maintaining a Mesa-FreeWorld package in RPM Fusion.
03:01 DaemonFC; This is nasty stuff, and it's all so stupid, because Red Hat (IBM) lawyers admit that the hardware decode stuff by itself doesn't infringe and that you can ONLY infringe if you have software that Fedora doesn't have.
03:01 DaemonFC; There has to be something else going on here.
03:02 DaemonFC; Nowhere on Fedora's Web sites does it tell you to go get unlicensed codecs from RPM Fusion.
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 206347 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42781 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 25 days ago
03:02 DaemonFC; They cannot control what someone else packages and gives you and are not legally responsible for it if they don't recommend you use it.
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03:03 DaemonFC; If they had a huge honkin' neon flashing sign that says "We don't have HEVC and AVC stuff, but GO GET IT AT RPM FUSION....Here's a link!" they could be sued, but.....
03:03 DaemonFC; Having hardware decode helpers in Mesa3d or not doesn't change how responsible they are if a user bolts on extra codecs they got somewhere else.
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 DaemonFC; What's worse, now that they've taken the time to say they're worried about patent infringement and write code adding special hooks that let Mesa3d get built without that, if they ever turn it back on again, they CAN be sued and said to be recommending users go pirate some unlicensed codecs.
03:05 DaemonFC; This is next level retarded.
03:06 DaemonFC; Before, they were just building some software the only way it could be built by anyone and not talking about codecs. Which put them on better legal footing.
03:06 DaemonFC; I don't think there's a case for infringement based solely on hardware acceleration code that is functionless without something they haven't provided.
03:07 DaemonFC; It is more likely that they want to act like there's liability there to harm someone else's distribution.
03:07 DaemonFC; But who could that be?
03:07 DaemonFC; Ubuntu infringes on all sorts of stuff, including but not limited to patents and copyrights.
03:08 DaemonFC; They've done it for years, it's flagrant, it's only getting worse, and they're practically double dog leg daring someone to sue them and potentially anyone who has deployed Ubuntu and has money.
03:09 DaemonFC; Fedora has historically been very cautious with patents, and not violating anyone's copyrights.
03:09 DaemonFC; It's much more cautious than Debian and especially Ubuntu.
03:10 DaemonFC; So cautious that if you want to make a Fully Free distribution and ship it in the US and know it's most likely compliant with US laws, you should build it on Fedora.
03:10 DaemonFC; That's a good thing. They've complied with copyright law even when it seems like it doesn't matter.
03:11 DaemonFC; There keep being these "fully Free" distributions that pop up and it turns out they have something not Free and also in violation of its own license.
03:11 DaemonFC; Inevitably, they've based these on Debian and Ubuntu.
03:12 DaemonFC; Unlike patents, there's no rush to sue over copyrights.
03:12 DaemonFC; Oracle may just be biding their time to file a lawsuit over ZFS.
03:12 DaemonFC; Let users get good and dependent on it. Let Canonical become more profitable so there's more money to take from them.
03:13 DaemonFC; If the issue were patents instead of copyrights on ZFS, I think they'd have been sued into the ground already.
03:13 DaemonFC; Because the clock is ticking on patents.
03:13 DaemonFC; This is another reason it's important not to say "Intellectual Property".
03:14 DaemonFC; The US government might be sponsoring OpenZFS, but it doesn't make it legal to smash it together with the GPL and violate both licenses.
03:16 DaemonFC; The BSDs don't have this problem because you can't really violate the BSD license in practice. The CDDL adds extra restrictions on that module, but the BSD license allows this. The BSD license doesn't demand anything the CDDL doesn't. The CDDL was designed because Sun wanted a GPL-incompatible license and had its lawyers write one up.
03:17 DaemonFC; OpenZFS is also being actively harassed by Linux kernel maintainers who don't want it to work well.
03:18 DaemonFC; So it's like "Why would you?" all around.
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:30 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/28/entirely-preventable-victims-in-highland-park-mass-shooting-file-lawsuits-against-gun-maker-gunman-and-gunmans-father/
03:30 TR Bot; 'Entirely preventable': Victims in Highland Park mass shooting file lawsuits against gun maker, gunman and gunman's father
03:31 DaemonFC; Does Robert Crimo III's dad (II) belong in jail? Probably. For at least a few years. They need to find something he did criminally wrong to charge him with even if it's only a misdemeanor. He knew his son had very serious mental problems and vouched for his FOID Card application anyway.
03:31 DaemonFC; Which makes him criminally responsible in some way, I'm sure.
03:32 DaemonFC; Does he deserve to be sued into the ground? Oh, definitely. He committed a civil wrongdoing and I'm absolutely sure the jury will convict on that.
03:33 DaemonFC; They need to examine the criminal code and figure out what they can prove that he knew he did wrong.
03:33 DaemonFC; Like, he may not have known this would happen, but he knew something bad was likely to happen.
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04:02 AdmFubar; curious how this story was pulled...https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-internet-thread-removed-for-review.447828/
04:02 TR Bot; Is This the Beginning of the End of the Internet? (Thread removed for review) | Wilders Security Forums
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04:16 AdmFubar; isn't any news from apple obscene??? https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-internet-thread-removed-for-review.447828/
04:17 AdmFubar; aaaaawwwww! https://gizmodo.com/nft-crypto-web3-bored-ape-1849590462 :P
04:17 TR Bot; NFT Trading Volume Drops
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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04:35 psydruid; I've only ever used ZFS on FreeBSD and Illumos
04:40 highest_cubist_thrills; /me only used zfs once and still doesnt get what the bfd is
04:40 highest_cubist_thrills; every fs has features and everyone thinks theirs is best
04:40 highest_cubist_thrills; people used to think reiserfs was a bfd but no one uses it
04:41 highest_cubist_thrills; imo it probably wouldnt matter now even if did then
04:41 highest_cubist_thrills; you know if author wasnt a murderer etc
04:41 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure zfs is nice but the number of people crying they dont have it seems very very small
04:42 highest_cubist_thrills; its not that ive never heard the sales pitch
04:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i just cant figure out why everything doesnt completely suck without such an amazing fs
04:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its interesting in that context
04:44 highest_cubist_thrills; not "oh what a cool fs" but more like "why such a bfd"
04:45 highest_cubist_thrills; how is it going to change anything i do? it probably wont
04:45 highest_cubist_thrills; even big corporations with big important jobs at big scales etc
04:45 highest_cubist_thrills; how do they ever manage without it, etc etc etc
04:45 highest_cubist_thrills; idk
04:45 highest_cubist_thrills; they seem to do okay
04:45 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe its like systemd-- not that it sucks, i dont know anything about why zfs sucks
04:46 highest_cubist_thrills; just that people seem to think theres nothing better and everyone needs it
04:46 highest_cubist_thrills; cant find the evidence thats true
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05:02 DaemonFC; https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNU-Toolchain-Infrastructure
05:02 TR Bot; Toolchain Plans Move To The Linux Foundation's Infrastructure - Phoronix
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05:11 psydruid; ZFS doesn't suck, it's just that before it was created you bought NetApp gear to take care of your storage needs in the enterprise
05:12 psydruid; Linux has bcachefs now, which should do much of the same
05:12 psydruid; Or btrfs, if you're feeling adventurous
05:12 highest_cubist_thrills; fair enough
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05:30 DaemonFC; It's my personal laptop so I'm feeling frisky.
05:30 DaemonFC; There's some people using BtrFS for things a hell of a lot bigger than this.
05:31 DaemonFC; I've used ZFS before as part of OpenSolaris.
05:31 DaemonFC; It's a shame what Oracle did to that.
05:32 DaemonFC; https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/new-report-highlights-the-decline-of-facebook-and-ig-as-tiktok-becomes-the/631694/
05:32 TR Bot; New Report Highlights the Decline of Facebook and IG, as TikTok Becomes the New Home of Entertainment | Social Media Today
05:32 DaemonFC; I used Instagram and I'm glad I did.
05:32 DaemonFC; I used it _just_ enough to sue them and get some money.
05:33 DaemonFC; Same with Facebook.
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05:58 psydruid; Illumos did bring some of it upon itself by increasing the bloat and going where even GNU/Linux didn't go before
05:59 psydruid; if they had kept things lean it would probably be faster than Linux by now
05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; from an article i wrote last night: bloat kills freedom.
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05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; not that illumos was ever free
05:59 highest_cubist_thrills; corporate pet projects are never (ever) about freedom
06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; red hat was (since it got big enough) about taking over gnu, not helping it
06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; now it has, and the fsf either doesnt have a clue, or it lies
06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; if illumos isnt a corporate pet project (thats my impression) just say so
06:00 highest_cubist_thrills; it looks like one
06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf either doesnt have a clue, or it lies <- join us now, so we can be useless as fuck to your freedom
06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; they werent useless.
06:01 highest_cubist_thrills; they just arent the fsf anymore
06:02 psydruid; It's mostly run by former Sun developers with relatively little new blood coming in
06:02 highest_cubist_thrills; the new fsf is a corporate pet project
06:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and ibm is going to have it put down
06:02 psydruid; and even many of those developers have moved to greener pastures
06:03 highest_cubist_thrills; idk about greener, if you mean gnu (you probably mean illumos)
06:03 highest_cubist_thrills; theyve moved on to trademark fraud
06:03 highest_cubist_thrills; theyve moved on to defrauding the world
06:03 psydruid; I should have written "greener"
06:03 highest_cubist_thrills; join us now so we can defraud your freedom
06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; theres more to do (certainly) than just critique
06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; but people arent doing it, so...
06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; critique it is (critique is good either way, but there could be more, at least in theory)
06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; and the coup has made it perfectly clear
06:04 highest_cubist_thrills; "its us, or its you"
06:05 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont take prisoners (at least until theyre beaten into submission like rms, torvalds, whoever else)
06:06 highest_cubist_thrills; a prisoner is like martyrdom lite
06:06 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont want them, they want exiled-in-place
06:06 highest_cubist_thrills; a prisoner may fight. they want someone who is half-dead
06:07 highest_cubist_thrills; someone completely defeated
06:07 highest_cubist_thrills; then a prisoner is fine
06:07 psydruid; I consider GNU/Linux to be in a similar boat, but it still runs more of the world than Solaris and Illumos ever did
06:07 highest_cubist_thrills; but it still runs more of the world than Solaris and Illumos ever did <- thats a point worth making
06:08 highest_cubist_thrills; since corporations always know best-- and gnu (at least) WAS less corporate
06:08 highest_cubist_thrills; corporations are good at what theyre good at-- controlling users, taking over competition
06:08 psydruid; which is probably why it was important to bring free software back into the corporate fold in order to be able to control it
06:08 highest_cubist_thrills; the fsf played crocodile dentist.
06:08 highest_cubist_thrills; it was important to bring free software back into the corporate fold in order to be able to control it <- it was essential
06:09 highest_cubist_thrills; even microsoft said so. in the 90s.
06:09 highest_cubist_thrills; and now theyve done what they said they would do, and people are like "great!"
06:09 highest_cubist_thrills; "im your worst nightmare"
06:09 highest_cubist_thrills; hes someones worst nightmare.
06:11 psydruid; most people care about the product and not about the activism and other effort it took to create that product
06:11 highest_cubist_thrills; most people care about the product and not about the activism <- which is why free software shouldnt even create products
06:11 highest_cubist_thrills; create software. fuck products.
06:11 highest_cubist_thrills; offer an alternative to products
06:11 highest_cubist_thrills; products are excessively packaged. excessive packaging is waste.
06:12 highest_cubist_thrills; waste is used to bloat projects. bloat kills freedom.
06:12 highest_cubist_thrills; its already happened.
06:12 highest_cubist_thrills; create projects instead.
06:12 highest_cubist_thrills; keep them as projects. TEACH PEOPLE how to use projects.
06:12 highest_cubist_thrills; and by all means facilitate it-- just dont make it into a product.
06:12 psydruid; but when you lose the philosophy and the process you can't recreate that thing that was unique because no one has the vision or the skills anymore, but most importantly not the willpower
06:13 highest_cubist_thrills; when you lose the philosophy and the process you can't recreate that thing <- thats because the philosophy was a key ingredient.
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06:14 highest_cubist_thrills; corporations remove the philosophy and kill the project.
06:14 highest_cubist_thrills; then they package the corpse and sell it as a product
06:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but more than that, they turn free software into another sweatshop business
06:14 highest_cubist_thrills; github is a sweatshop
06:14 psydruid; what's lost is lost and the new generation may care about freedom but doesn't actually have any way to exercise that freedom, because everything seems fixed now
06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; people work hard, most dont get paid, the corporations profit while users suffer.
06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; thats immoral.
06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its exploitation. its how sweatshops work.
06:15 psydruid; that's just an illusion created by corporations
06:15 highest_cubist_thrills; what's lost is lost and the new generation may care about freedom but doesn't actually have any way to exercise that freedom <- movements die.
06:15 psydruid; but if everyone believes it, it may as well be true
06:16 highest_cubist_thrills; if everyone believes it, it may as well be true <- beliefs that arent self serving should be challenged
06:16 psydruid; I don't blame them for looking helpless
06:16 highest_cubist_thrills; um
06:16 highest_cubist_thrills; beliefs that arent self-beneficial rather
06:16 psydruid; the previous generation had freedom and squandered it
06:16 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont blame people for feeling beaten
06:17 highest_cubist_thrills; had freedom and squandered it <- this is what happens when people get tempted by servitude with a lovely bow on top
06:17 psydruid; and now we have to deal with the mess that got left behind
06:17 highest_cubist_thrills; the main way people will deal with that mess
06:17 psydruid; however painful that may be
06:17 highest_cubist_thrills; is by creating fake initiatives to absorb the energy of those who want to push forward
06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; osi is the prime example of such counterrevolution
06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think esr intended it to be, but he also did nothing to stop it.
06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; nothing. he relied solely on ego and hubris.
06:18 highest_cubist_thrills; hes a crazy dick
06:19 highest_cubist_thrills; perens just leaves one madman and throws himself into the arms of another and another
06:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i doubt he ever noticed this trend
06:19 highest_cubist_thrills; he probably means well but he always gets used
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06:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and he has no loyalty. debt isnt the same as loyalty
06:20 psydruid; by the time I even knew anything about the code in a distribution everything was already on its way to becoming corporate and tied up in silos at the various companies
06:20 highest_cubist_thrills; the best counter is hes told the truth a few times when no one else did-- credit where credit is due
06:20 highest_cubist_thrills; distributions started out as benign
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; collect some software, put it in one place for conveninence-- consider the alternative
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; tell people how to compile or simply boot and install.
06:21 highest_cubist_thrills; distributions ultimately mirrored the modern os
06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; which is totally fine
06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; the one caveat is
06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; distributions became products and a vehicle for controlling users
06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; its possible to be a benign distro
06:22 highest_cubist_thrills; but the trend towards being a vehicle for further control isnt easy to reverse, or even avoid.
06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; so really there should be anti-distros
06:23 psydruid; I always reported and got things fixed things upstream
06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; fixing upstream is ultimately better
06:23 highest_cubist_thrills; in the short term, it wont reach the distro. in the long term it reaches more distros.
06:23 psydruid; some minor patches ended up in some projects
06:24 psydruid; but these days I don't really do any of that anymore
06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; itd be nice if there was a distro that kept fixes current and held back sabotage and instability :)
06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; only way to do that is empower more choice than distros ever have
06:24 highest_cubist_thrills; while not imposing things
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; you start doing that, and you start doing something that looks less like a distro
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; in a good way
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe a transcendistro
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; less of a product, more of a platform for projects.
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean a laptop is a product
06:25 highest_cubist_thrills; an sbc is a project.
06:26 highest_cubist_thrills; now make a distro like that.
06:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean gentoo sort of is, but its for gurus and wizards (and the occasional nazi. im not blaming gentoo for that)
06:26 psydruid; there are things like gentoo, but that's obviously tied to GNU/Linux
06:26 highest_cubist_thrills; to run dos you needed TWO files. to make it usable you needed a third or fourth file.
06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; obviously (imo) linux has no future. certainly not one that benefits freedom
06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; it was always a corporate pet project
06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; it transformed gnu into a corporate pet project.
06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu/linux wasnt a marriage, it was a tug of war
06:27 highest_cubist_thrills; now it tugs off everyone :)
06:28 psydruid; GNU/Linux has a present as a placeholder, I consider it "proprietary" Unix for the modern age
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; a friendlier gentoo, where friendly just means easier to get started, not "everything has a gui"
06:29 psydruid; I mean, you can look at the code and even do lots of things with jt
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, i never compiled a large piece of software until i switched to openbsd
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; ive compiled bash and python now. python.
06:29 psydruid; but do you have the knowledge and the skills?
06:29 highest_cubist_thrills; but do you have the knowledge and the skills? <- this is what i mean
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; when i made a distro i knew that remastering manually was too much work to keep it going
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; people burn out and quit
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; then the work is gone-- theyre the only ones that know how
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; so i only did fully automated remastering
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; every script is a receipt of every change made.
06:30 highest_cubist_thrills; so you download a distro and you run the script. and if you dont like something it does
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; just comment or remove the code and run it.
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; and i made it as friendly as i possibly could.
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean
06:31 psydruid; I think part of what makes GNU and Linux hard to contribute to is that no one ever documented their creation process
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i design as much as i possibly can for my five year old self. thats when i learned to code.
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; now, maybe i do things that would elude me then.
06:31 psydruid; why were certain things done the way they were?
06:31 highest_cubist_thrills; and maybe other people would do similar at 15 or 20
06:32 highest_cubist_thrills; no one ever documented their creation process <- i actually documented the process of a language i implemented in javascript.
06:32 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean as i added a feature i talked about doing it
06:32 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad we dont do more things that way
06:32 highest_cubist_thrills; im certainly not saying i was the first. to some degree people do this.
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; not to the degree where we know how gnu was made.
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; but you know what does help? history.
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; the history of gnu is valuable-- thats why theyre rewriting it
06:33 psydruid; it's important as you may recreate the thing if you know what to think of when writing the replacement
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; rewriting history and bloat are like the two primary weapons of open source
06:33 highest_cubist_thrills; on loan from the corporations they serve
06:33 psydruid; that's cool, though
06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; fsvo what
06:34 psydruid; because that means we have to go back to a time before gnu to understand what it all means
06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont entirely agree
06:34 psydruid; because the gnu history will be useless
06:34 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, its not useless to try that angle
06:35 highest_cubist_thrills; the thing about history is
06:35 psydruid; when rewritten and not stating the facts as they were
06:35 highest_cubist_thrills; people rewrite it all the time
06:35 highest_cubist_thrills; we live in a world where lies are power
06:35 highest_cubist_thrills; history helps expose bullshit
06:35 highest_cubist_thrills; history is a force that can be used and reused as a weapon for good
06:36 highest_cubist_thrills; when people rewrite history
06:36 highest_cubist_thrills; you expose it.
06:36 highest_cubist_thrills; at least, i mean, not everyone has to become a historian
06:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but a love of history is a love of truth.
06:36 highest_cubist_thrills; even if a lot of history is bullshit :)
06:36 highest_cubist_thrills; history, in the positive sense, is a PROCESS of removing bullshit and restoring knowledge
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; this is a process that dovetails with rebooting movements that were killed off.
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; the history of free software is full of valuable lessons
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; things we should learn from and avoid doing again.
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; like trusting big corporations. never again-- if we dont want to fail.
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; if you go back to before gnu
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; there is only corporate development.
06:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, i can think of exceptions.
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; the history of free software is as valuable as the history of anti-capitalism.
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; true activists are the living memory of those who fought before
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; and stallman fought for decades
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; his legacy is a lesson
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; thats why theyre rewriting it, reframing it
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; bullshitting people
06:38 highest_cubist_thrills; truth fights bullshit. its just a VERY long fight.
06:39 highest_cubist_thrills; bullshit wears a truth costume.
06:39 highest_cubist_thrills; people get the two confused.
06:39 psydruid; what aggi is running into in his attempts to cut the bloat is that gnu supports all kinds of operating systems and toolchains that have gone extinct
06:39 psydruid; so "gnu 2023" won't look like "gnu 1983"
06:39 highest_cubist_thrills; the truth of the history of the free software, is a dna strand that we can clone the (lost) philosophy from
06:39 psydruid; what is valuable about gnu is documenting the culture around it
06:39 highest_cubist_thrills; source code is also historical.
06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; is documenting the culture around it <- i agree
06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; the code is too bloated to salvage, but it could be in a museum.
06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; by the time anyone salvages the bloat, the world will have rewritten tighter more manageable alternatives
06:40 highest_cubist_thrills; exceptions will happen. probably not much.
06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean suppose they reconstruct the monitor and the merrimack-- these were two of the first-- maybe the two first armoured warships.
06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; they were so well built they couldnt sink each other, they just beat the shit out of each other and said "fuck it, lets go home"
06:41 highest_cubist_thrills; for historys sake we could rebuild them, im not a civil war buff, i dont know what their fate was.
06:42 psydruid; gnu code can still serve as a blueprint of simply documentation, but that's probably where I would stop
06:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but we arent going to rebuild them to send them into battle again.
06:42 highest_cubist_thrills; thats gnu.
06:42 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu was the original flagship of the free software movement.
06:42 psydruid; and gnu still runs on all of those decades of hardware
06:42 highest_cubist_thrills; it has been decommissioned.
06:42 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu still runs on all of those decades of hardware <- so its a compatbility layer
06:42 highest_cubist_thrills; im not saying abandoned posix btw
06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu is posix + extensions (like practically everything else is)
06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; that was the point of posix. its nice because
06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; posix is the reason that going from gnu to bsd doesnt feel like moving to another planet.
06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; or at least, not in a way that youd never want to.
06:43 highest_cubist_thrills; its more like moving to europe. they drive on the other side.
06:44 highest_cubist_thrills; most things are similar if not identical.
06:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i think posix is a lot to ask of people
06:44 highest_cubist_thrills; but its not a bad target.
06:44 psydruid; I'm not sure to what extent a new kernel should be compliant with POSIX because many syscalls are deprecated
06:44 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah you surely know more about that than i do.
06:44 highest_cubist_thrills; openbsd is all the posix i need.
06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but dos is insufficient.
06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; mostly i miss <() but thats not posix, thats bash.
06:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but the point is the same. some posix is great
06:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i have this $() everyone knows what that does
06:46 highest_cubist_thrills; <() is similar except its a file.
06:46 psydruid; I think there should be a POSIX standard with only the syscalls that matter now
06:46 highest_cubist_thrills; MOST (a few exceptions exist) things that will accept a filename will accept the contents of <() as if its a file. thats awesome.
06:46 highest_cubist_thrills; with only the syscalls that matter now <- i mean thats an invitation to the wrong people
06:47 psydruid; the older syscalls could be emulated or however that would work
06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess it depends how you do it.
06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its less about the standard... and more about doing things compatibly
06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; but then, that sounds like a contradiction, because on the surface its absolutely the very same thing
06:47 highest_cubist_thrills; only in subtle ways is there any difference
06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; like if i made an os
06:48 psydruid; that's why many new operating system kernels are unix-like and mostly posix-compatible
06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; id be hoping for a reasonable level of compatibility
06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what standards are supposed to make happen
06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; the goal of the standard-- rather than the standard itself
06:48 highest_cubist_thrills; what the finger is pointing to, rather than the finger.
06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; that's why many new operating system kernels are unix-like and mostly posix-compatible <- its a good design.
06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; in a world of mostly shitty designs
06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; it was definitely never perfect
06:49 highest_cubist_thrills; it was also (initially) simple.
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; but most importantly is the idea of software that gives users control of their computing
06:50 psydruid; I think a new kernel could look like the software equivalent of RISC-V
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; because gnu did that, and now, it doesnt
06:50 highest_cubist_thrills; now it gives the illusion of control, based a reputation it built over decades
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; theres a famous scene in silence of the lambs where lecter cuts off the face of a guard and wears it as a mask to fool someone
06:51 psydruid; learn from the past but don't bring all the baggage that would hold you back
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm has cut the face off of gnu and is wearing it around
06:51 highest_cubist_thrills; its ibm in a gnu suit
06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; there is no gnu
06:52 highest_cubist_thrills; I think a new kernel could look like the software equivalent of RISC-V <- i think forking the openbsd kernel would be easier
06:52 psydruid; gnu is an IBM brand
06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, even hurd was a fork. it was just too damned complex.
06:53 psydruid; hyperbola is doing that
06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah but they probably wont succeed
06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i wish them the best
06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; if people want to help they should make a distro based on hyperbola
06:53 highest_cubist_thrills; first, make a distro. then make it less like a distro.
06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the first step is vital. the second step is a move forward. dont skip the first step.
06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; you can shit on a toilet without walking towards it first
06:54 highest_cubist_thrills; but youll get shit on the floor.
06:54 psydruid; I haven't kept up with hyperbola for the past few years
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; no one has
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; im not even sure they have
06:55 psydruid; so I don't know what they're up to now
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre worth mentioning since theyre the only existing project trying to do it right
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; part of the fucking problem is
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; they suck (hard) at telling people wtf theyre doing
06:55 highest_cubist_thrills; if you arent involved, you probably dont know.
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; for the first year or so they can say its prudent
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; if five years in youre not explaining anything, something is wrong
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; no one will happier than i if one day they prove me wrong
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; i want to believ
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; i want them to build a fully free openbsd
06:56 highest_cubist_thrills; THEY are the very reason why i used openbsd now
06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; not theo. love theo. hyperbola is the reason i used openbsd.
06:57 highest_cubist_thrills; but openbsd isnt a project with a goal of creating freedom
06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; its a project that creates better tools, which can be repurposed for the sake of freedom
06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu has been repurposed for ibm.
06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; ibm is good at repurposing things. like jewish labour.
06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; i hear stallman is jewish. theyve repurposed his labour.
06:58 highest_cubist_thrills; <psydruid> gnu is an IBM brand <- it is now.
06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; creating better tools is only part of the battle. if you can fork openbsd-- i mean
06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; what do they think hurd was actually a fork of...
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.13
06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; thats the funniest part of the whole thing.
06:59 highest_cubist_thrills; when gnu chose a kernel to fork
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; which kernel did they choose
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; mach, yes
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; but a particular weird version of mach that stallman thought was cool as fuck
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; too cool for most people to make a functioning os out of. which is why no one has.
07:00 highest_cubist_thrills; an overambitious choice of kernel set the stage for a compromise like linux
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; which set the stage for a corporate takeover. which we are now living with the results of.
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; im not saying "all stallmans fault"
07:01 TR News; Apple: does it work? https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-trackpad-not-working-macbook/
07:01 TR Bot; Is Your MacBook Trackpad Not Working? Here Are the Fixes! - Make Tech Easier
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; he held shit down for decades.
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; longer than anyone else has.
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; im saying that version of mach was a shitty choice for a primary kernel.
07:01 DaemonFC; There's plenty of treachery and infighting in Free Software now, which is where mjg59_ wanted it while he was spamming people to sign the anti-RMS letter.
07:01 highest_cubist_thrills; they should have forked the monolithic mach that apple did.
07:01 DaemonFC; He's like the devil's imp.
07:02 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, September 28, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:02 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; then when they had a working os, try to make stallmans superkernel.
07:02 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:02 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:02 psydruid; it's clear that these decisions may turn out far more important than they even looked at the time
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; yep
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; and people always paint them as arbitrary. because that makes it easier to say "so ours is just as"-- no!
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "
07:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "most people dont care about what init system they use"
07:03 psydruid; Linus could have done Freax and GNU could have stayed the free operating system
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, they will. when it turns into a cuckold os.
07:03 psydruid; and everyone would be happy
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; Linus could have done Freax <- he couldnt though.
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; and the reason he couldnt was because he didnt care about freedom.
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; also a friend of his called the folder on the server "linux" and it stuck.
07:03 highest_cubist_thrills; rather than freax
07:04 highest_cubist_thrills; even if he had called it freex, idk freex or freax
07:04 psydruid; he and his allies essentially hijacked GNU
07:04 highest_cubist_thrills; x has been free for ages so it looks like free x
07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; he and his allies essentially hijacked GNU <- linux took over gnu
07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; microsoft took over linux
07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; dont hitch your wagon to the third reich, or anything like it
07:05 TR News; "Today, I stumbled upon a nice project called "earlyoom", which is an OOM manager" https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-28-earlyoom.html | Source: Data Swamp
07:05 highest_cubist_thrills; henry ford loves nazis. so does microsoft imo.
07:05 TR Bot; Solene'% : Avoid Linux locking up in low memory situations using earlyoom
07:06 highest_cubist_thrills; linus is a fuckup
07:06 highest_cubist_thrills; but he had lots of help fucking it up.
07:06 TR News; "The truth is I work with a lot of clients, many of which should know better" https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/9/the-siren-song-of-set-it-and-forget-it | Source: Jay Little
07:06 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - The Siren Song of Set It and Forget It
07:06 TR News; "The appeal of WireGuard for this is that it's a lightweight service" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/WireGuardForFirewallBypass | Source: uni Toronto
07:06 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/WireGuardForFirewallBypass
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean they used him. but hes been a shill ever since he called gnu "linux"
07:07 TR News; "Logical properties are a new way of working with directions and dimensions" https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day2/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
07:07 TR Bot; Day 2: logical properties - Manuel Matuzovi
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; that rebranding totally set the stage.
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; and stallman, really, let them get away with it too
07:07 TR News; "If you use a shorthand property like margin with all 4 values" https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day3/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
07:07 TR Bot; Day 3: logical property shorthands - Manuel Matuzovi
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; he gave too much
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; we should have never called it gnu/linux
07:07 highest_cubist_thrills; we should have simpled called it out as a fraud
07:07 TR News; "In Linux, the quintessential tool for the job is the powerful CloneZilla, an awesome" https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/rescuezilla.html | Source: Dedoimedo
07:07 TR Bot; RescueZilla - Fast, efficient, reliable - perfect imaging tool
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; today theres another fraud like linux
07:08 TR News; "Associativity: For all a,b,c in G (a b) c = a (b c)" https://matt-rickard.com/simple-group-theory | Source: Matt Rickard
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; called gnu.fools
07:08 TR Bot; Simple Group Theory
07:08 psydruid; I think it was also the centralized nature of gnu that made it easy to be taken over
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; run by the gnu traitors
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; traitors within gnu who took over
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; and who work closely with (some of them for) ibm
07:08 psydruid; if there were thousands of GNUs, who would take over what?
07:08 highest_cubist_thrills; dont hitch your wagon to the third reich
07:08 TR News; " Ricky Uy, President of KOMODO, the distributor in Japan, Lawrence Yang, UX designer at Valve, and Erik Peterson, Steam business manager. If you use the below translation please link to Boiling Steam." https://boilingsteam.com/valve-interviewed-japanese-steamos-expand-portable-gaming-market/ | Source: Boiling Steam
07:08 TR Bot; Valve Interviewed with Another Japanese Outlet: SteamOS To Expand Portable Gaming Market to Other Devices - Boiling Steam
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; if there were thousands of GNUs <- if there was a movement, a flagship would be okay
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i wish more people had watched babylon 5
07:09 psydruid; don't let your version of gnu be infected by IBM
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; the resistance had a leader
07:09 TR News; "The Linux flagship NVIDIA laptop from System76 has been given a major overhaul, making it something of a beast." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/system76-gives-the-oryx-pro-a-big-refresh-with-an-oled-4k-display/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:09 TR Bot; gives the Oryx Pro a big refresh with an OLED 4k display | GamingOnLinux
07:09 highest_cubist_thrills; they created a federation after they won the war
07:09 TR News; "Terraria: Labor of Love, another major update for the popular crafting and survival game is officially out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/terraria-labor-of-love-update-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:09 TR Bot; Labor of Love update is out now | GamingOnLinux
07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; they had a flagship. they had a whole fucking fleet of them
07:10 TR News; "What I can only describe as some form of microscopic fart-cannon, the free and open source evolution sim Thrive has added what they call a Mucilage Jet for your creatures in version 0.5.10." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/free-evolution-sim-thrive-adds-a-new-part-to-let-organisms-spew-mucilage/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:10 TR Bot; evolution sim 'Thrive' adds a new part to let organisms spew mucilage | GamingOnLinux
07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; don't let your version of gnu be infected by IBM <- bloat is the primary vector for infection
07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; avoid bloat and infection becomes harder. forking is easier.
07:10 TR News; "Roller Drama is an upcoming hybrid of a sports team management sim, along with visual novel elements too and it sounds like a great idea for a game." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/manage-games-and-people-in-roller-drama-with-full-linux-steam-deck-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:10 TR Bot; games and people in Roller Drama with full Linux / Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux
07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; avoiding bloat is one of the hard problems of computer science.
07:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but its important.
07:11 psydruid; bot spam in the channel
07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; without forking being viable, freedom 3 is a false promise.
07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; bot spam in the channel <- i seem to be filtering it.
07:11 highest_cubist_thrills; what are they spamming?
07:11 psydruid; I can't do it here
07:12 psydruid; the usual stuff
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; i was looking for a hint rather than a quote
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; is it NEWS
07:12 psydruid; it's NeWS, yes
07:12 highest_cubist_thrills; hard to have a conversation with the NEWS blaring imo
07:13 highest_cubist_thrills; change the vowels and its NOISE
07:14 psydruid; that's how this channel rolls
07:14 psydruid; I rarely click on the links
07:14 highest_cubist_thrills; and scrolls
07:14 highest_cubist_thrills; once a week or so, theres one i wish i had seen. and of course, its possible to go back.
07:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its actually less often than weekly now
07:15 TR News; "Seems Valve snuck out another Steam Deck Beta update while I was asleep" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/steam-deck-got-another-beta-update-focused-on-steam-input-and-flickstick/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:15 TR Bot; Deck got another Beta update focused on Steam Input and FlickStick | GamingOnLinux
07:16 psydruid; avoiding bloat is what they don't really teach anymore
07:16 TR News; "In a new interview with IGN, Valve has given a few more little details about their thoughts on how things with the Steam Deck" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-give-update-on-official-steam-deck-dock-valve-excited-for-steamos-on-more-devices/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:16 TR Bot; give update on official Steam Deck Dock, Valve excited for SteamOS on more devices | GamingOnLinux
07:16 TR News; "Valve has announced some changes to their major seasonal sales, along with the Lunar New Year Sale being dropped." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/steam-drops-the-lunar-new-year-sale-were-getting-a-big-spring-sale-instead/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:16 TR Bot; drops the Lunar New Year Sale, we're getting a big Spring sale instead | GamingOnLinux
07:16 highest_cubist_thrills; openbsd teaches it
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; hyperbola fights against it
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; before i did the same, hyperbola switched from linucks to bsd because they were fighting systemd iirc
07:17 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe i dreamt it
07:18 highest_cubist_thrills; i liked herr sixels quixotic quest to use a non-bloated compiler
07:18 highest_cubist_thrills; but hes doing it for dumber reasons than i thought
07:18 psydruid; I don't know why he's doing it, but I hope he succeeds
07:19 psydruid; in his mission
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i doubt clang will ever be forked
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; idk about gcc either
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; it would certainly help to have a compiler
07:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but an operating system may be more urgent. we need both.
07:20 psydruid; those projects are essentially unforkable
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; gcc is easier to bootstrap than clang.
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 TR News; "NVIDIA has released a new version of their Vulkan Beta Driver" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/nvidia-put-out-new-vulkan-beta-driver-with-vulkan-video-updates/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:20 TR Bot; put out new Vulkan Beta Driver with Vulkan Video updates | GamingOnLinux
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; those projects are essentially unforkable <- if not forkable theres no freedom 3. if theres no freedom 3 its not free software.
07:20 highest_cubist_thrills; tcc is maybe the closest thing we have to free compiler.
07:21 highest_cubist_thrills; im not saying we should use tcc.
07:21 psydruid; they're already too big, so there is just one canonical implementation for each of them
07:21 highest_cubist_thrills; if theres any chance of forking gcc maybe thats better.
07:21 highest_cubist_thrills; but it may very well be unforkable.
07:21 psydruid; I think he's been using tcc so far
07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know enough about compilers (not even close) to say what the answer is
07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; well, his research is mostly useless because he doesnt publish
07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; and id rather not use nazi research anyway.
07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; if theres any choice.
07:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, we have nazi rockets and most magnetic technology (tapes, core memory) were liberated from german scientists
07:23 psydruid; he will publish to save the long gone motherland
07:23 TR News; "The July upgrade also brought the option for purchasers to configure Oryx Pro with either NVIDIA RTX 3070 Ti" https://fossforce.com/2022/09/system76-upgrades-its-oryx-pro-linux-laptops/ | Source: Unicorn Media
07:23 TR Bot; System76 Upgrades Its Oryx Pro Linux Laptops - FOSS Force
07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; but the idea of a forkable compiler isnt new-- thats what gcc was originally.
07:23 DaemonFC; Someone on Fedora's room mentioned that Steam is in the Windows store.
07:23 DaemonFC; I said, "Yo dawg, I heard you liked stores with DRM so I got you a store with DRM for your store with DRM so you can store with DRM while you store with DRM."
07:23 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe he will build a robot hitler out of z80 chips.
07:23 highest_cubist_thrills; fuhrer 2000
07:24 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe ibm will beat him to it
07:24 psydruid; sounds logical
07:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its ironic as fuck though
07:25 psydruid; das z80 mainframe will allow him to take back all of the historical areas comprising the motherland
07:26 TR News; "Are you deploying software using containers? Are you using Podman?" https://linuxhandbook.com/rootless-podman/ | Source: Linux Handbook
07:26 TR Bot; Getting Started With Rootless Container Using Podman
07:26 TR News; "It is a good practice to update software" https://linuxhandbook.com/update-podman-containers/ | Source: Linux Handbook
07:26 TR Bot; How to Automatically Update Podman Containers
07:27 TR News; "This article will demystify the lifecycle and structure of open source projects." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/build-open-source-project | Source: OpenSource.com
07:27 TR Bot; an open source project using this essential advice | Opensource.com
07:27 TR News; (NEW): Games: Terraria, Thrive, Steam Deck, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Games_Terraria_Thrive_Steam_Deck_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Games_Terraria_Thrive_Steam_Deck_and_More.gmi
07:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Terraria, Thrive, Steam Deck, and More
07:27 *lukaso666 (~lukaso666@rrte8vbqhndt8.irc) has joined #techrights
07:29 highest_cubist_thrills; a z80 mainframe would be a cool hack
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; they had octoberfest here recently
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; someone told me about it
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; i said my family escaped germany-- fuck octoberfest.
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont care if other people go. i mean, i dont think banning german parties forever is the answer.
07:30 highest_cubist_thrills; NO MORE FUN! i dunno, that sounds more like the problem than the solution
07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe solution isnt the best word to use around germans.
07:31 TR News; (NEW): Mazter Game: A Maze in Your Linux Terminal http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Mazter_Game_A_Maze_in_Your_Linux_Terminal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Mazter_Game_A_Maze_in_Your_Linux_Terminal.gmi
07:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mazter Game: A Maze in Your Linux Terminal
07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, neither is problem :)
07:31 psydruid; there can be only one
07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; and to make it even sillier i dont know how, why or where octoberfest even started
07:31 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe its half of europe, i never even read about it on wikipedia
07:32 highest_cubist_thrills; its too german for my personal tastes.
07:32 psydruid; german infestation
07:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont actually hate all germans. i even liked julia reda before she joined the fucking nazis
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; there is hacktoberfest
07:34 psydruid; she joined back with the mothership for the motherland
07:34 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_howtos.gmi
07:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> there is hacktoberfest <- eh, its probably all german pirate party
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; turned out reda was very gullible
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; after redas betrayal i said fuck it and joined the ninja party.
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; lol
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; turned out reda was very gullible <- what a waste
07:34 highest_cubist_thrills; she should do what leah did.
07:34 schestowitz[TR]; nin.de party
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; leah has been quiet for months
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt know if germany is ready for bushido
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; no release, not a word anywhere
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; hopefully not mood issues
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah i know
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; well theyre only human
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
07:35 highest_cubist_thrills; leah does their best, im sure of that at least
07:35 schestowitz[TR]; there's history of being in low spirits
07:36 highest_cubist_thrills; being on the spectrum is harder than it looks
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; and now worse
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; with rising food prices
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; leah is like us, she buys lots of dicounted items
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; those are getting VERY hard to find now
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; possible, but hard
07:36 schestowitz[TR]; https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2022/wrapping-up-ten-years-of-guix-in-paris/
07:36 TR Bot; Wrapping up Ten Years of Guix in Paris 2022 Blog GNUGuix
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; watch first author
07:37 schestowitz[TR]; first
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; leah is smart. if nothing else they will sell out a little and get some money
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; im not an advocate of doing this
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; but if they dont sell out too much
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; ill understand if they do a tiny bit
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; capitalism makes people do terrible things
07:37 highest_cubist_thrills; this isnt an endorsement.
07:38 highest_cubist_thrills; besides, i said "if nothing else"-- if worse comes to worse, in other words.
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; not to say I did a terrible thing last night
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; but a very boring task
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; deleting over 100,000 users in moddle
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; for gdpr compliance
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; even though we are not in EU
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; *mood
07:38 schestowitz[TR]; le
07:39 schestowitz[TR]; 1,999 users at a time
07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; capitalism is that crazy uncle you wish you didnt have to have at thanksgiving/christmas
07:39 TR News; "I've also had several people ask me how I'm voting myself, as I started this GR in the first place." https://blog.einval.com/2022/09/27#firmware-vote | Source: Steve McIntyre
07:39 TR Bot; Steve's blog
07:39 TR News; "Whenever I browse through the web, I find many tips and tricks from various blog writers" https://theevilskeleton.gitlab.io/2022/09/28/what-not-to-recommend-to-flatpak-users.html | Source: Hari Rana
07:39 TR Bot; What Not to Recommend to Flatpak Users | TheEvilSkeleton
07:39 highest_cubist_thrills; at its worst, it is that nazi uncle you have that rants about z80 chips
07:40 starstreak; linucks
07:40 highest_cubist_thrills; :)
07:40 starstreak; "I'm your worst nightmare" -ESR
07:41 TR News; "The doorbell. The intercom. The elevator. Once upon a time, beginning in the late nineteenth century" https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/09/28/when-the-push-button-was-new-people-were-freaked-jstor_daily/ | Source: Adafruit
↺ https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/09/28/when-the-push-button-was-new-people-were-freaked-jstor_daily/
07:41 TR Bot; When the Push Button Was New, People Were Freaked @JSTOR_Daily Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!
07:41 TR News; "Ultimately, the idea that electricity was a kind of magic would triumph over a more hands-on" https://daily.jstor.org/when-the-push-button-was-new-people-were-freaked/ | Source: JSTOR
07:41 TR Bot; When the Push Button Was New, People Were Freaked - JSTOR Daily
07:41 TR News; "If youre more than 30 years old, then there is a good chance that BASIC" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/27/standalone-arduino-nano-rp2040-connect-controlled-computer-runs-basic-for-iot-development/ | Source: Arduino
07:41 TR Bot; Standalone Arduino Nano RP2040 Connect-controlled computer runs BASIC for IoT development | Arduino Blog
07:42 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: I am your attack sutface
07:42 schestowitz[TR]; craig mundie: whaaa?
07:43 TR News; "This cracking process works thanks to the mechanics of combination padlocks" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/28/crack-combination-locks-with-this-nifty-robot/ | Source: Arduino
07:43 TR Bot; Crack combination locks with this nifty robot | Arduino Blog
07:43 TR News; "Weve of course broken out all the pins to standard headers and added a 3.3V voltage regulator" https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-ens160-mox-gas-sensor |
07:43 TR Bot; Overview | Adafruit ENS160 MOX Gas Sensor | Adafruit Learning System
07:44 starstreak; schestowitz[TR], attack surface!
07:46 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/
07:46 TR Bot; Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | Techrights
07:47 TR News; "The result is that, in practice, currently Hippotat has to be built with (a) a reasonably recent Rust toolchain such as found in Debian unstable or obtained from Rust upstream" https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/12934.html | Source: Diziet
07:47 TR Bot; diziet | Hippotat (IP over HTTP) - first advertised release
07:47 TR News; "IFTTT, which lets users link connected devices and web services to other connected devices and web services, has achieved $6 million in annual recurring revenue" https://staceyoniot.com/surprise-people-are-shelling-out-for-iot-subscriptions/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
07:47 TR Bot; Surprise! People are shelling out for IoT subscriptions - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
07:48 TR News; "Much of the book draws on the interviews that have appeared on the blog over the last year" https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/ | Source: Walled Culture
07:48 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/ )
07:48 TR News; "People who are not already in a predicament like this should avoid getting caught in Microsofts tar pit." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/09/28/microsoft-is-coasting-on-what-it-once-was-using-things-like-internet-explorer-for-leverage-and-bsa-ads-on-facebook/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
07:48 TR Bot; Microsoft is coasting on what it once was, using things like Internet Explorer for leverage and BSA ads on Facebook. | BaronHK's Rants
07:49 TR News; "Talking Trojan: Analyzing an Industry-Wide Disclosure tells the story of what happened after we discovered the Trojan Source vulnerability" https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/09/28/talking-trojan/ | Source: Light Blue Touchpaper
07:49 TR Bot; Talking Trojan: Analyzing an Industry-Wide Disclosure | Light Blue Touchpaper
07:49 TR News; "In about a month, there will be a new yearly release of Python: version 3.11." https://blog.adafruit.com/2022/09/28/icymi-python-on-microcontrollers-newsletter-retrofitting-old-computers-pinguin-and-much-more-circuitpython-icymi-micropython-raspberry_pi/ | Source: Adafruit
07:49 TR Bot; ICYMI Python on Microcontrollers Newsletter: Retrofitting old computers, Pinguin and much more! #CircuitPython #ICYMI @micropython @Raspberry_Pi Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!
07:50 TR News; "In software engineering, there are two principles that often come into conflict" https://ntietz.com/blog/python-rounding/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
07:50 TR Bot; Rounding in Python | nicholas@web
07:50 TR News; "Javas Checked Exceptions are problematic, and its not due to their ergonomics" https://alexn.org/blog/2022/09/28/the-trouble-with-checked-exceptions-part-2/ | Source: Alexandru Nedelcu
07:50 TR Bot; The Trouble with Checked Exceptions: Part 2 - Alexandru Nedelcu
07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> starstreak: I am your attack sutface <- this really should be a song
07:50 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe the sequel to "eye in the sky"
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; /me tries to think which active band is the most like the alan-parsens project
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe just have deadmaus do it
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; is he german? i dont hate him.
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; hes probably from wyoming.
07:51 schestowitz[TR]; is he still active?
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; hes more active than the alan-parsens project im sure
07:51 highest_cubist_thrills; does youtube count?
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i think hes still active. just not the new hotness anymore. still in the top 100, top 20 for all i know
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; idk my favourite is green velvent
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; velvet
07:52 highest_cubist_thrills; i like tiesto too.
07:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i went to green velvet when i was in the uk
07:53 highest_cubist_thrills; only big name dj i ever saw
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; ive tried to find a dj i like more, tiesto is pretty great
07:54 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D368.jpg
07:54 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D714.jpg
07:54 highest_cubist_thrills; theres a russian one who is really good. id have to look her up.
07:55 TR News; "The formidable problem concerns how electrons behave as they move on a gridlike lattice." https://phys.org/news/2022-09-artificial-intelligence-equation-quantum-physics.html | Source: Omicron Limited
07:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i think shes russian.
07:55 TR Bot; Artificial intelligence reduces a 100,000-equation quantum physics problem to only four equations
07:55 TR News; "University students have been supporting their studies with sex work for decades." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/25/inside-dark-world-student-sex-work/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
07:55 TR Bot; Inside the dark world of student sex work
07:55 TR News; "The elevator door wasn't just a one-off bummer." https://www.cnet.com/tech/what-intel-learned-when-an-elevator-smashed-its-supercomputer-chips/ | Source: CNET
07:55 TR Bot; Intel Learned When an Elevator Smashed Into Its Supercomputer Chips - CNET
07:55 TR News; "I just read an article about the MNT Pocket Reform at the IEEE Spectrum website" https://andregarzia.com/2022/09/The-appeal-of-small-computers.html | Source: Andre Alves Garzia
07:55 TR Bot; appeal of small computers AndreGarzia.com
07:56 highest_cubist_thrills; one thing that helps engender trust is not being part of a cartel that runs most of europe.
07:56 highest_cubist_thrills; thats a big thing with me.
07:56 highest_cubist_thrills; i think most russians are hostages-- and they know they are, and they dont bullshit about it
07:57 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe im giving them too much credit, but so far im ok with it.
07:57 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe im projecting the ones i know onto the ones i dont.
07:57 highest_cubist_thrills; no ones ever made that mistake before.
07:58 highest_cubist_thrills; all the americans i like know america is full of shit.
07:58 highest_cubist_thrills; centre of a dying empire
07:59 highest_cubist_thrills; mascot is a penguin
07:59 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean eagle
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 146.80
08:03 TR News; "According to a recent report from The Wall Street Journal, the quantity of butter in cold storage recently hit its lowest level" https://www.salon.com/2022/09/27/dont-have-a-cow-but-theres-a-major-butter-shortage_partner/ | Source: Salon
08:03 TR Bot; have a cow, but theres a major butter shortage | Salon.com
08:11 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/irc-log-280922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/irc-log-280922/
08:11 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 | Techrights
08:18 TR News; "manufacturing the iPhone 14 in India as well." https://itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/apple-to-cut-back-on-iphone-14-production-as-demand-drops-claim.html | Source: IT Wire
08:18 TR Bot; - Apple to cut back on iPhone 14 production as demand drops: claim
08:18 TR News; iPhones https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3664715-hackers-breach-tech-magazine-send-racist-push-notifications-to-iphones/ | Source: The Hill
08:18 TR Bot; Hackers breach tech magazine, send racist push notifications to iPhones | The Hill
08:19 TR News; "How do you know someone is really a person?" https://www.epistem.ink/p/unique-identifier | Source: George
08:19 TR Bot; Unique Identifier - by George - Epistemink
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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08:23 TR News; "In a gazette notification, the DoT on Monday, amended the prevention of tampering" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet-of-things/dot-mandates-imei-registry-before-1st-sale-or-import-of-mobiles/94497042 | Source: India Times
08:23 TR Bot; imei: DoT mandates IMEI registry before 1st sale or import of mobiles, CIO News, ET CIO
08:23 TR News; "So far, only EU states and Europol are allowed to access databases at Interpol" https://digit.site36.net/2022/09/28/plans-for-more-data-exchange-eu-agreement-with-interpol-delayed/ | Source: Site36
08:23 TR Bot; Plans for more data exchange: EU agreement with Interpol delayed Security Architectures in the EU
08:24 TR News; "Amazon launched a profusion of sensor-filled speakers, cameras, and televisions" https://staceyoniot.com/amazon-doesnt-need-a-phone-alexa-will-be-everywhere/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
08:24 TR Bot; Amazon doesn't need a phone. Alexa will be everywhere. - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
08:24 TR News; "The Helsinki-based company's database was breached on at least two separate occasions" https://yle.fi/news/3-12641083 | Source: YLE
08:24 TR Bot; Prosecutors charge ex-CEO of hacked therapy firm Vastaamo | News | Yle Uutiset
08:24 TR News; [Old] "Homeland Securitys inspector general published a report earlier this year" https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/352421-dhs-planning-to-collect-social-media-info-on-all-immigrants/ | Source: The Hill
08:24 TR Bot; DHS planning to collect social media info on all immigrants | The Hill
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08:26 TR News; Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index https://ccaf.io/cbeci/index |
08:26 TR Bot; Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index (CBECI)
08:26 TR News; "January was a heady time for the Secret Network" https://variety.com/2022/film/news/pulp-fiction-nft-secret-network-guy-zyskind-1235384962/ | Source: Variety
08:26 TR Bot; the Fight Over the 'Pulp Fiction' NFT - Variety
08:27 TR News; Ethereum a Dumb Pipe" https://matt-rickard.com/is-ethereum-a-dumb-pipe | Source: Matt Rickard
08:27 TR Bot; Is Ethereum a Dumb Pipe?
08:30 TR News; "Alberts oil-patch is a zombie, the walking dead." https://doctorow.medium.com/oil-is-bankrupt-if-we-want-it-c64fcd1313c2 | Source: Cory Doctorow
08:30 TR Bot; Oil is Bankrupt (If We Want It). Albertas Oil Companies Are the Walking | by Cory Doctorow | Sep, 2022 | Medium
08:31 TR News; "This is the first update to our NLnet Grant Application for Domain" https://ar.al/2022/09/28/nlnet-grant-application-for-domain-first-update-questions-and-answers/ | Source: Aral Balkan
08:31 TR Bot; Nlnet Grant Application for Domain First Update: Questions and Answers Aral Balkan
08:32 TR News; "When tech monopolies used their market power to sew up all the public forums" https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/27/freeze-peach/#paxton | Source: CoryDoctorow
08:32 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 27 Sep 2022 Federalist Society v Corporate Personhood Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
08:36 TR News; "But trying to get rid of me isnt going to solve their problem." http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2022/09/ive-said-it-all-before-but-here-we-go.html | Source: Sabine Hossenfelder
08:36 TR Bot; Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Ive said it all before but here we go again
08:37 TR News; Facebook would not only ignore but also PROFIT from the US doing exactly the same! https://text.npr.org/1125217316 | Source: NPR
08:37 TR Bot; Facebook takes down Russian network impersonating European news outlets
08:37 TR News; "The operation involved more than 60 websites created to mimic legitimate news sites including The Guardian newspaper in the United Kingdom and Germanys Der Spiegel." https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2022/0927/Russian-online-propaganda-Meta-says-yes-shuts-down-network | Source: CS Monitor
08:37 TR Bot; disables complex Russian propaganda network in Europe - CSMonitor.com
08:39 TR News; "The government has shut down the [Internet] again and killed almost all messenger" https://alirezahayati.com/2022/09/28/nobody-survives-with-oppression/ | Source: Ali Reza Hayati
08:39 TR Bot; Nobody survives with oppression - Ali Reza Hayati
08:40 TR News; "The government has ended Internet service in parts in Tehran, and ended access to WhatsApp" https://www.frontpagemag.com/the-islamic-republic-shaken-to-its-core/ | Source: Frontpage Magazine
08:40 TR Bot; The Islamic Republic: Shaken to its Core | Frontpage Mag
08:40 TR News; "model" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63059193 | Source: BBC
08:40 TR Bot; Myanmar OnlyFans model sentenced to six years jail - BBC News
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08:45 TR News; "What is the Internet, and who owns it? These are not simple questions; their boundaries are muddy" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/ben-tarnoff-internet-for-the-people/ | Source: The Nation
08:45 TR Bot; Who Owns the Internet? | The Nation
08:45 TR News; "Here is a look at the oldest agency in the United Nations fold" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet-of-things/five-things-to-know-about-the-un-telecoms-agency/94499125 | Source: India Times
08:45 TR Bot; international telecommunication union: Five things to know about the UN telecoms agency, CIO News, ET CIO
08:46 TR News; "wants to keep people within its walled garden" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3674858/mozilla-apple-google-and-microsoft-lock-you-into-their-browsers.html | Source: Computer World
08:46 TR Bot; Apple, Google, and Microsoft lock you into their browsers | Computerworld
08:46 TR News; "Mozilla has published new research into how consumers across a number of different countries" https://research.mozilla.org/browser-competition/ |
08:46 TR Bot; Five Walled Gardens: Why Browsers are Essential to the Internet and How Operating Systems Are Holding Them Back - Mozilla Research
08:47 TR News; "The research we are releasing with this report paints a complex picture with many paradoxes" https://research.mozilla.org/files/2022/09/Mozilla_Five-Walled-Gardens.pdf |
08:47 TR News; "the biggest hit of all time" https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2022/09/avatar-2-movie-james-cameron/671578/ | Source: The Atlantic
08:47 TR Bot; Hollywood Learned All the Wrong Lessons From 'Avatar' - The Atlantic
08:49 TR News; "A teenager who allegedly threatened staff at Bungie and cheated in Destiny 2 is facing fierce opposition" https://torrentfreak.com/teens-destiny-2-cheat-strategy-gifts-bungie-unlimited-lawsuit-ammo-220928/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:49 TR Bot; Destiny 2 Cheat Strategy Gifts Bungie Unlimited Lawsuit Ammo * TorrentFreak
08:49 TR News; "counterfeiters" https://torrentfreak.com/liverpool-and-manchester-united-team-up-to-beat-counterfeiters-220928/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:49 TR Bot; and Manchester United Team Up to Beat Counterfeiters * TorrentFreak
08:51 TR News; from a comment: "WHoever thinks FF wont implement it doesnt have any idea where is Mozilla funding come from" https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/chrome-is-killing-adblockers-firefox:3
08:51 TR Bot; Chrome Is Killing AdBlockers & Firefox Will Save Them
08:51 TR News; social media to the rescue ... not https://yle.fi/news/3-12641538
08:51 TR Bot; Border Guard swamped with unnecessary calls after asking citizens for surveillance help | News | Yle Uutiset
08:52 TR News; iophk: yet is allowed for dot-com scams https://text.npr.org/1125459315
08:52 TR Bot; Owners of a small deli are charged with fraud for valuing business at $100 million
08:54 TR News; Canonical drowning in MICROSOFT entryism http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270922.html#tSep%2027%2001:31:48 iophk: 1 or 2 is outro-subway.mp4 outro-subway-new.mp4 too many for Canonical to survive
08:54 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, September 27, 2022
08:55 TR News; mozilla https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.muylinux.com/2022/09/28/mozilla-y-los-jardines-amurallados/
08:55 TR Bot; Mozilla se queja de los "jardines amurallados"
08:56 TR News; S.4913 - Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022 - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/09/27/0818224 Source: Soylent News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/09/27/0818224
08:56 TR Bot; S.4913 - Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022 - SoylentNews
08:57 TR News; 'Ports tree locked' - MARC https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=166439312614443&w=2 Source: openbsd | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=166439312614443&w=2
08:57 TR Bot; 'Ports tree locked' - MARC
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 39.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 141.25
09:04 TR News; kaiser https://truthout.org/articles/kaiser-permanente-therapists-keep-striking-citing-dangerous-delays-for-patients/ | Source: TruthOut
09:04 TR Bot; Kaiser Permanente Therapists Keep Striking, Citing Dangerous Delays for Patients
09:07 TR News; The teachers https://truthout.org/articles/los-angeles-teachers-are-burned-out-and-priced-out-of-living-in-their-city/ | Source: TruthOut
09:07 TR Bot; Los Angeles Teachers Are Burned Out and Priced Out of Living in Their City
09:08 TR News; More austerity https://truthout.org/articles/85-of-the-world-will-likely-live-under-deadly-austerity-measures-next-year/ | Source: TruthOut
09:08 TR Bot; 85% of the World Will Likely Live Under "Deadly" Austerity Measures Next Year
09:08 TR News; On antitrust https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/28/rep-ken-bucks-irrational-spite-of-tech-companies-may-have-screwed-up-another-antitrust-bill/ | Source: Techdirt
09:08 TR Bot; Ken Bucks Irrational Spite Of Tech Companies May Have Screwed Up Another Antitrust Bill | Techdirt
09:11 TR News; Another union https://truthout.org/articles/staffers-for-andy-levin-unanimously-vote-to-form-first-ever-congressional-union/ | Source: TruthOut
09:11 TR Bot; Staffers for Andy Levin Unanimously Vote to Form First-Ever Congressional Union
09:11 TR News; Covington https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/28/kentucky-court-tells-anonymous-covington-students-they-cant-sue-for-defamation-if-theyre-anonymous/ | Source: Techdirt
09:11 TR Bot; Court Tells Anonymous Covington Students They Cant Sue For Defamation If Theyre Anonymous | Techdirt
09:12 TR News; "The Mitac E410-13CMI is an industrial grade embedded system powered by the Intel Comet Lake 10th Gen processor" https://linuxgizmos.com/comet-lake-based-pc-available-in-barebone-and-customizable-models/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
09:12 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/comet-lake-based-pc-available-in-barebone-and-customizable-models/ )
09:12 TR News; "Todd Weaver, saw his kids interact with digital devices" https://puri.sm/posts/reclaiming-digital-privacy/ | Source: Purism
09:12 TR Bot; Reclaiming Digital Privacy Purism
09:13 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Adafruit and Arduino http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Open_Hardware_Modding_Adafruit_and_Arduino.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Open_Hardware_Modding_Adafruit_and_Arduino.gmi
09:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Adafruit and Arduino
09:14 TR News; "the US military will start spending the more than $800 billion Congress" (no, it's FAR more, that's just the visible component of their budget) http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/us-military-climate-mitigation/ | Source: The Nation
09:14 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
09:14 TR Bot; The US Military Is the Enemy of Climate Mitigation | The Nation
09:15 TR News; "[Aduecho] had seen those cheap eBay deals of e-paper-based pricing tags" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/28/recycling-junk-e-tags-into-a-lorawan-aqi-sensor/ | Source: Hackaday
09:15 TR Bot; Junk E-tags Into A LoRaWAN AQI Sensor | Hackaday
09:17 TR News; The book-burning fools https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/27/tom-engelhardt-on-the-corporate-equivalent-of-book-burning/ | Source: Scheerpost
09:17 TR Bot; Engelhardt on the Corporate Equivalent of Book Burning scheerpost.com
09:18 TR News; "What was intended as mere bribery has turned out to be a gigantic financial bomb." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/truss-tories-plan-slash-public-spending-while-clinging-chaos-causing-tax-cuts | Source: Common Dreams
09:18 TR Bot; Truss' Tories Plan to Slash Public Spending While Clinging to Chaos-Causing Tax Cuts
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:26 schestowitz[TR]; wb, matteobin
09:26 matteobin; Thank you! Good morning.
09:41 TR News; "It betrays the mission that all three central banks have to act in the wider public good." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/top-central-banks-told-stop-bankrolling-deforestation | Source: Common Dreams
↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/top-central-banks-told-stop-bankrolling-deforestation
09:41 TR Bot; Top Central Banks Told to Stop 'Bankrolling' Deforestation
09:41 TR News; "A society cannot sustain itself when so few have so much while so many have so little." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/obscene-says-sanders-after-cbo-reports-richest-1-now-owns-over-13-us-wealth | Source: Common Dreams
09:41 TR Bot; 'Obscene,' Says Sanders After CBO Reports Richest 1% Now Owns Over 1/3 of US Wealth
09:42 TR News; "Over the past 15 years, the United States has lost more than half the newspaper reporters covering state and local beats" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/28/policies-center-community-voices-are-key-solving-local-news-crisis | Source: Common Dreams
09:42 TR Bot; Opinion | Policies That Center Community Voices Are Key to Solving the Local-News Crisis | Amy Kroin
09:43 TR News; "Manchin (D-W.Va.) asked Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) to remove the permitting overhaul from the government funding" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/well-beat-you-again-say-climate-advocates-biden-eyes-new-path-manchins-dirty-deal | Source: Common Dreams
09:43 TR Bot; 'We'll Beat You Again,' Say Climate Advocates as Biden Eyes New Path for Manchin's Dirty Deal
09:43 TR News; (NEW): KDE: Making it easier to submit bug reports http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/KDE_Making_it_easier_to_submit_bug_reports.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/KDE_Making_it_easier_to_submit_bug_reports.gmi
09:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE: Making it easier to submit bug reports
09:45 TR News; glyphosate https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/experts-sound-alarm-over-growing-threat-genetically-engineered-trees | Source: Common Dreams
09:45 TR Bot; Experts Sound Alarm Over 'Growing Threat' of Genetically Engineered Trees
09:47 TR News; "workers' rights in the fast food industry" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/28/california-ab-257-tip-iceberg-when-it-comes-workplace-fissure | Source: Common Dreams
09:47 TR Bot; Opinion | California AB 257 Is Tip of the Iceberg When It Comes to 'Workplace Fissure' | Emily Andrews
09:51 TR News; "Around a million people lost power Tuesday as Hurricane Ian lashed the island with heavy rain and wind" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/11-million-without-electricity-cuba-hurricane-ian-knocks-out-power-grid | Source: Common Dreams
09:51 TR Bot; 11 Million Without Electricity in Cuba as Hurricane Ian Knocks Out Power Grid
09:52 TR News; "countries across the globe facing major costs-of-living crises and looming recessions as prices remain high" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/85-global-population-set-live-under-deadly-austerity-measures-next-year | Source: Common Dreams
09:52 TR Bot; 85% of Global Population Set to Live Under 'Deadly' Austerity Measures Next Year
09:52 TR News; "Tor Browser 12.0a3 updates Firefox on Android, Windows, macOS, and Linux to 102.3.0esr." https://blog.torproject.org/new-alpha-release-tor-browser-120a3/ | Source: Tor
09:52 TR Bot; New Alpha Release: Tor Browser 12.0a3 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
09:52 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Android_Leftovers.gmi
09:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
09:53 TR News; "It was in 1982 that the Mexico City Declaration on Cultural Policies defined a path for culture to become a fundamental pillar of development" https://creativecommons.org/2022/09/28/unesco-mondiacult2022-a-starting-point-for-open-culture/ | Source: Creative Commons
09:53 TR Bot; UNESCO MONDIACULT2022: A Starting Point for Open Culture - Creative Commons
09:54 TR News; "Police can also attach ALPRs to their patrol cars" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/automated-license-plate-readers-threaten-abortion-access-heres-how-policymakers | Source: EFF
09:54 TR Bot; Automated License Plate Readers Threaten Abortion Access. Here's How Policymakers Can Mitigate the Risk | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:54 TR News; "enroll children at a daycare and be forced to share sensitive information" https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-urges-ftc-address-security-and-privacy-problems-daycare-and-early-education-apps | Source: EFF
09:54 TR Bot; EFF Urges FTC to Address Security and Privacy Problems in Daycare and Early Education Apps | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:25 TR News; Cortex-A73/A53 processor https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/29/amlogic-pop1-g-octa-core-cortex-a73-a53-processor-shows-up-in-amazon-fire-tv-cube-2022/
10:25 TR Bot; Amlogic POP1-G octa-core Cortex-A73/A53 processor shows up in Amazon Fire TV Cube 2022 - CNX Software
10:26 TR News; No diaper... richest country on the planet? https://www.thenation.com/article/society/diaper-need-hhs-pilot/ | Source: The Nation
10:26 TR Bot; For the First Time, the Federal Government Will Help Poor Families Get Diapers | The Nation
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10:44 TR News; "The wealth of nations is hidden in states like Wyoming, Delaware, Nevada, and South Dakota." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/28/new-report-reveals-how-13-us-states-shield-fortunes-worlds-richest-people | Source: Common Dreams
10:44 TR Bot; New Report Reveals How 13 US States 'Shield the Fortunes of the World's Richest People'
10:48 TR News; "In middle school I was connecting to a local BBS (Cherryland BBS in Sturgeon Bay, Wi). I had to sneak over to my grandfather's construction company at night to get access to his better phone system, he had free long distance while we did not." gemini://gemini.sh0.xyz/log/2022-09-24.gmi
10:50 TR News; "Thankfully this can be amended by writing a mod of a type called NewGRF (New Graphic Resource File). There are several tools available for doing this. The first I tried was TrueGRF, which is a web based tool with a lovely and usable interface. It really was a joy to work with." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-09-29-a-mod-for-openttd.gmi
10:55 TR News; Nicaragua https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/28/imperialism-and-capitalism-are-bleeding-the-world-dry-at-un-nicaragua-calls-for-global-rebellion/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:55 TR Bot; and Capitalism Are Bleeding the World Dry: At UN, Nicaragua Calls for Global Rebellion scheerpost.com
10:57 TR News; Boycott Twitter https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/twitters-shoddy-fakery/ | Source: Craig Murray
10:57 TR Bot; Twitter's Shoddy Fakery - Craig Murray
10:57 TR News; Snowden https://thedissenter.org/snowdens-russia-citizenship-establishment-response-illustrates-why-he-hasnt-returned-home/ | Source: The Dissenter
10:57 TR Bot; This Is A Big Part Of Why Snowden Hasn't Returned To USA
10:57 TR News; Microcomputer https://hackaday.com/2022/09/28/the-first-microcomputer-the-q1/ | Source: Hackaday
10:57 TR Bot; First Microcomputer: The Q1 | Hackaday
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10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 110.65
11:01 MinceR; 29 082324 < DaemonFC> I said, "Yo dawg, I heard you liked stores with DRM so I got you a store with DRM for your store with DRM so you can store with DRM while you store with DRM."
11:01 MinceR; lol
11:03 TR News; This One Thing Made Alex Jones Stop Lying https://robertreich.org/post/696671940226826240 | Source: Robert Reich
11:03 TR Bot; Robert Reich (This One Thing Made Alex Jones Stop Lying Alex...)
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11:04 TR News; "regional telecom monopolies" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/28/google-tries-to-fend-off-telecom-backed-big-tech-tax-in-eu/ | Source: Techdirt
11:04 TR Bot; Tries To Fend Off Telecom Backed Big Tech Tax In EU | Techdirt
11:06 TR News; HEY HI https://hackaday.com/2022/09/28/ai-dreaming-of-time-travel/ | Source: Hackaday
11:06 TR Bot; Dreaming Of Time Travel | Hackaday
11:06 matteobin; I really like Ed Snowden, he's one of my heroes.
11:06 TR News; "Information wants to be free and it is never freer than when it traverses the internet." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/28/us-treasury-department-moves-to-protect-internet-access-for-iranian-citizens/ | Source: Techdirt
11:06 TR Bot; Treasury Department Moves To Protect Internet Access For Iranian Citizens | Techdirt
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11:08 TR News; "Theres nothing quite like old-school electrical gear, especially the stuff associated with power distribution." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/28/a-look-inside-an-old-school-synchroscope/ | Source: Hackaday
11:08 TR Bot; Look Inside An Old-School Synchroscope | Hackaday
11:08 TR News; "NASA successfully crashed a robotic spacecraft into an asteroid this week" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/28/nasa_scientist_asteroid_technology_climate_crisis | Source: Democracy Now
11:08 TR Bot; Asteroid Diversion? Earth Is Still Careening Headlong into Climate Catastrophe, Says NASA Scientist | Democracy Now!
11:09 scientes; Russia says they don't want to work with NASA now
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; NASA/NSA/Pentagon
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; space armed forces
11:11 scientes; schestowitz, what you are saying is implying starwars
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; and surveillance equipment
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; yeah
11:11 scientes; which is something very few people want
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; NASA even hire people who made rockets to attack london
11:11 schestowitz[TR]; to "Explore the moon"
11:13 scientes; schestowitz, https://archive.org/details/Levoyagedanslalune
11:13 TR Bot; Le voyage dans la lune : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
11:13 scientes; (When I think "Explore the moon", in quotes)
11:14 scientes; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQJS5SWy6g
11:14 TR Bot; https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=GIQJS5SWy6g
11:14 TR Bot; invidious.flokinet.to | Daniela Romo - Yo No Te Pido La Luna - Invidious
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:27 TR News; Fake left: we censor views we don't like. Right wing: we ban views we don't like ans beat up the messengers in the process.
11:28 mjg59_; So who's the real left
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11:32 TR News; The benefits and limitations of flexible array members | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/09/29/benefits-limitations-flexible-array-members
11:32 TR Bot; The benefits and limitations of flexible array members | Red Hat Developer
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11:33 TR News; Using a GraphQL endpoint from an Ansible playbook https://100things.wzzrd.com/2022/09/28/Using-GraphQL-with-Ansible.html Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//100things.wzzrd.com/2022/09/28/Using-GraphQL-with-Ansible.html
11:34 TR Bot; Using a GraphQL endpoint from an Ansible playbook
11:42 TR News; Stellarium: Using a Linux Star Chart - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=piPkZrmL9Oc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/piPkZrmL9Oc
11:42 TR Bot; Stellarium: Using a Linux Star Chart - Invidious
11:42 TR News; "Deploying FreeBSD on Oracle Cloud, A Tale of 300,000 Imaginary Friends, EuroBSDcon 2022 recap, OpenBSD Mastery: Filesystems Status Report, OpenBGPD 7.6 Released, immutable userland mappings, Portable OpenSSH commits now SSH-signed, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/474
11:42 TR Bot; BSD Now 474: EuroBSDcon 2022
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11:46 TR News; Wing Lift https://xkcd.com/2678/
11:46 TR Bot; Wing Lift
11:47 TR News; On World EV Day: greenwashing marketing campaign for greedy industry https://itwire.com/open-sauce/on-world-ev-day,-victoria-is-proudly-taxing-owners-of-evs.html Source: IT Wire
11:47 TR Bot; - On World EV Day, Victoria is proudly taxing owners of EVs
11:48 TR News; Proprietary https://itwire.com/open-sauce/optus-ceo-s-spin-not-exactly-the-best-way-to-handle-breach.html
11:48 TR Bot; - Optus CEO's spin not exactly the best way to handle breach
11:48 MinceR; why advertise xkcd by RMS cancellation letter signer randall munroe?
11:49 TR News; (NEW): Linuxfx 11.2 22.04.3 LTS WxDesktop 11.7 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Linuxfx_11_2_22_04_3_LTS_WxDesktop_11_7.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Linuxfx_11_2_22_04_3_LTS_WxDesktop_11_7.gmi
11:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linuxfx 11.2 22.04.3 LTS WxDesktop 11.7
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11:52 TR News; IT talent: the staff/stuff Red Hat is rapidly losing https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/it-talent--sre-role
11:52 TR Bot; IT talent: 6 tips for success in an SRE role | The Enterprisers Project
11:53 TR News; "We apologize for the inconvenience. Subscribing to our newsletter currently requires [PROPRIETARY] Javascript." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/9/communications-ebook
11:53 TR Bot; New Ebook: 10 resources to make you a better communicator | The Enterprisers Project
11:54 TR News; How Podman packaging works on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/9/podman-packages-linux Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/9/podman-packages-linux
11:54 TR Bot; Podman packaging works on Linux | Opensource.com
11:55 TR News; ICBM is looking for slaves or unpaid volunteers this October https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-to-the-fedora-project-during-hacktoberfest-2022/
11:55 TR Bot; Contribute to the Fedora Project during Hacktoberfest 2022 Fedora Community Blog
11:56 DaemonFC; https://www.redox-os.org/news/open-source-mental-health/
11:56 TR Bot; Open Source and Mental Health - Redox - Your Next(Gen) OS
11:56 DaemonFC; TIL: Suicide only matters because "capable and intelligent" people do it.
11:56 DaemonFC; Very progressive. I'm sure mjg59_ is happy with this Rust promoter.
11:56 techuser; intelligent = depressed?
11:59 DaemonFC; No, their "theory" is that only exceptionally smart people overcome the "primal" will to live.
11:59 DaemonFC; Which just isn't true.
11:59 techuser; possibly true I think
11:59 DaemonFC; Not true.
12:00 techuser; life has no purpose
12:00 TR News; "SSH infections using password brute-forcing and stolen keys also allow Chaos to spread from machine to machine inside an infected network." So the problem is bad passwords and stolen keys, not "Linux" https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/never-before-seen-malware-has-infected-hundreds-of-linux-and-windows-devices/
12:00 TR Bot; Never-before-seen malware has infected hundreds of Linux and Windows devices | Ars Technica
12:00 DaemonFC; All kinds of people go either way on this.
12:01 DaemonFC; Illinois seems to have a lot of white collar criminals kill themselves to escape prosecution for embezzlement and money laundering or something.
12:01 techuser; however I think some people want to reduce the amount of people on Earth
12:01 techuser; so they will promote LGBT and suicide
12:01 DaemonFC; When the worst the court will do to them is some minimum security federal prison.
12:01 DaemonFC; I mean, what the hell kind of sense does that make?
12:01 techuser; so people don't reproduce or even die
12:02 TR News; Akademy 2022 Interview: In conversation with Hector Martin - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/2qEE9SdfVYQ55PwnqNsxTg Source: KDE | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tube.kockatoo.org/w/2qEE9SdfVYQ55PwnqNsxTg
12:02 TR Bot; Akademy 2022 Interview: In conversation with Hector Martin - Kockatoo Tube
12:02 techuser; also wars get started
12:02 techuser; maybe Global Thermonuclear War
12:02 DaemonFC; In China, people just put baby girls out on the street to die of starvation.
12:02 TR News; Only Download Krita From Trusted Places https://krita.org/en/item/only-download-krita-from-trusted-places/
12:02 TR Bot; Only Download Krita From Trusted Places | Krita
12:02 DaemonFC; Because they believe that only males are a continuation of their family.
12:02 techuser; yes, like from Steam
12:02 techuser; waste your money
12:02 techuser; fuck you devilopers
12:02 techuser; corrupted
12:02 DaemonFC; I was reading an article about this.
12:03 DaemonFC; Chine, which is supposedly a Communist country, doesn't take care of their old.
12:03 DaemonFC; So people "plan" for retirement by having sons to take care of them.
12:03 DaemonFC; How enlightened.
12:03 techuser; parents are egoists
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; it's true
12:04 schestowitz[TR]; in poor countries
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; no pensions
12:05 techuser; parents are egoists everywhere
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; I agree with this
12:05 matteobin; I don't want kids. I don't think I would be a good parent.
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; and I saw this aregument too
12:05 techuser; a child is a tool for them
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; parents: we made you as a gift
12:05 schestowitz[TR]; kid: no, you makde me for YOU!
12:05 techuser; a tool to do work or a tool to make them happy or whatever
12:06 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Life in this country sucks so bad.
12:06 techuser; life just sucks
12:06 DaemonFC; I saw an NPR article today.
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; later they have the audacity to call people without kids "selfish"
12:06 DaemonFC; About a couple that was in a car accident.
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; parents like to this this
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; when they have kids for vanity and utility
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; usually the selfish is those who make vanity kids
12:06 DaemonFC; They went to get checked out and the urgent care said they don't take car accidents because the claims get complicated and go use the ER down the road.
12:06 DaemonFC; So they did.
12:06 schestowitz[TR]; and disregard the kids' feelings
12:07 DaemonFC; The doctor examined the wife. Told her that she wasn't seriously injured and to go home and take Tylenol.
12:07 DaemonFC; Then they got a bill for $17,005.
12:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], My favorite is how they get pissed off at you and knock you all around the house with the belt or the back of their hand or something.
12:09 DaemonFC; Then say they're doing you a favor because the police will be worse.
12:10 DaemonFC; I wonder how long we have before there's no money for police because nobody can earn enough to pay tax.
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12:11 DaemonFC; It feels like things are finally getting there.
12:11 DaemonFC; The loans keep things going, for now.
12:12 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Security_Leftovers.gmi
12:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
12:12 schestowitz[TR]; ask marisol..
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; too many "cards"
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; more than pairs of shoes
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; a nurse navigating for a job
12:13 schestowitz[TR]; to pay off 10 cards
12:14 schestowitz[TR]; used for nothing important, just 3 useless cars and 0 pairs of sweatshop shoes with a "famous" name on them
12:17 DaemonFC; They do call it Needless Markup for a reason.
12:17 TR News; "I have no idea who Chrissy Teigen is and Im not interested to know. As Saayaa put it, its the whole point of calling this kind of moment :realizing you have missed some news and that you are happy about it!" gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-09-29-teigen-moment.gmi
12:18 DaemonFC; Just ignore the angry red notice from the bank about the house and go shopping at Needless Markup.
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12:18 DaemonFC; Don't mind the sheriff serving me those papers, kids. Mark's parents will bail us out and file bankruptcy.
12:19 DaemonFC; That's what happened, and then Maricel got them in more trouble again right away.
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12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:20 TR News; (NEW): Progress Update For GNOME 43 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Progress_Update_For_GNOME_43.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Progress_Update_For_GNOME_43.gmi
12:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Progress Update For GNOME 43
12:20 DaemonFC; Mark's parents paid up their mortgage to keep them out of foreclosure because they could file bankruptcy without the trustee being able to take the trailer they live in.
12:20 DaemonFC; How sad is that?
12:20 TR News; (NEW): Progress Update For GNOME 43 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Progress_Update_For_GNOME_43.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Progress_Update_For_GNOME_43.gmi
12:20 schestowitz; 78
12:20 schestowitz; "The GOP a.k.a. Republicans are lying about being small government and fiscally responsible.
12:20 schestowitz; " gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fiscal-gop
12:21 DaemonFC; The news says Pritzker is ahead. I suppose for every halfway decent person in this state there's ten welfare mommas who don't know who all the fathers are who need the EBT coming.
12:22 DaemonFC; Nap time.
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12:23 TR News; Bluestar 5.19.11 released. https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/
12:23 TR Bot; download | SourceForge.net
12:24 TR News; "The Linux Writing Contest by Linode and HackerNoon has come to an end. Its time to celebrate the final round winners. This contest slowly took momentum, and we received a good amount of high-quality stories in the third (and final) round of the contest." https://hackernoon.com/the-linux-writing-contest-2022-final-results-announced
12:24 TR Bot; Linux Writing Contest 2022: Final Results Announced! | HackerNoon
12:26 TR News; "Report" = marketing fodder. junk, webspam https://containerjournal.com/features/sysdig-report-reveals-true-cost-of-container-security-breaches/
12:27 TR Bot; Sysdig Report Reveals True Cost of Container Security Breaches - Container Journal
12:27 TR News; (NEW): PostgreSQL Anonymizer 1.1: Privacy By Default For Postgres http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/PostgreSQL_Anonymizer_1_1_Privacy_By_Default_For_Postgres.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/PostgreSQL_Anonymizer_1_1_Privacy_By_Default_For_Postgres.gmi
12:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL Anonymizer 1.1: Privacy By Default For Postgres
12:27 TR News; Geniatech unveils SMARC 2.1 compliant Rockchip RK3568 system-on-module https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/29/geniatech-rockchip-rk3568-smarc-system-on-module/
12:27 TR Bot; Geniatech unveils SMARC 2.1 compliant Rockchip RK3568 system-on-module - CNX Software
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12:36 TR News; (NEW): Fedora Family / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Fedora_Family_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Fedora_Family_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.gmi
12:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines Fedora Family / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers
12:37 TR News; (NEW): Shows and Videos: BSD Now, Stellarium, The Linux Link Tech Show, Akademy 2022 Interview http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Shows_and_Videos_BSD_Now_Stellarium_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_Ak.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Shows_and_Videos_BSD_Now_Stellarium_The_Linux_Link_Tech_Show_Ak.gmi
12:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Shows and Videos: BSD Now, Stellarium, The Linux Link Tech Show, Akademy 2022 Interview
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12:44 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Don't mind the sheriff serving me those papers, kids. Mark's parents will bail us out and file bankruptcy.
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; unpopular opinion warning:
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; bankruptcy is a lot like a reset button
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; another chance at finance
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; or at life
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; like suicidal people whom reset their name/identity
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; it is not a treatment or a solution
12:45 schestowitz[TR]; it does not address the underlying problem
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; many who were fiscally irresonsible to begin with
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; are still strugglignn to rebuild again
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; what they run away from is still there
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; like people addicted to booze
12:46 schestowitz[TR]; and later finding that being off the wagon was just temporary
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; they didn't get into trouble because of the condition
12:47 schestowitz[TR]; they invert cause and effect
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; same for shopping addicts
12:48 schestowitz[TR]; steretype says it is women, but men are equally bad
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; they just waste money on other things
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; /end unpopular opinion
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; moral of the story:
12:49 schestowitz[TR]; if you have a problem, seek real treatment
12:50 schestowitz[TR]; rather than run away from this problem, hoping it'll magically turn out better
12:50 schestowitz[TR]; weekly cover-90 nums out in 3 hours
12:50 schestowitz[TR]; we'll see how much worse it is getting
12:50 schestowitz[TR]; been cold here, lately viruses love that
12:51 schestowitz[TR]; our regime found the solution
12:51 schestowitz[TR]; hide the data
12:51 schestowitz[TR]; problem solved
12:51 schestowitz[TR]; like busing the homeless out of town
12:51 schestowitz[TR]; to 'solve' poverty
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; hint: a poor person is still poor
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; whether in a big city or a small town
12:52 schestowitz[TR]; a depressed person is still in need of help
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; no matter the age, fashion etc.
12:53 schestowitz[TR]; putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make a pig turn into a woman
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; calling Microsoft taking control of your "modern" bios "secure" doesn't mean it's secure
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; it's a lot less secure than original bios
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; rewriting code in rust is not security
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; knowing how to code properly is security
12:54 schestowitz[TR]; like bicycles with assistive wheels
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; static code analysers can probably help more
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; not even proprietary like coverity
12:56 schestowitz[TR]; Capitalism: it compiled? SHIP!
12:56 schestowitz[TR]; [company ships product with default root password and many open ports]
12:57 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
12:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
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12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 90.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 123.30
12:59 XRevan86; matteobin: "I really like Ed Snowden, he's one of my heroes" <- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrokenPedestal
12:59 TR Bot; Broken Pedestal - TV Tropes
13:00 TR News; (NEW): Tor Browser and Mozilla Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Tor_Browser_and_Mozilla_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Tor_Browser_and_Mozilla_Leftovers.gmi
13:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Tor Browser and Mozilla Leftovers
13:00 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: he never meant to be in Russia
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; he went to KH (CN/UK)
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; and then to south america
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; but his password was revoked miday or something
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; *midway
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; and he needed to survive
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; staying in russia was surviving
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; and offering testimonies about his leaks
13:01 schestowitz[TR]; his leaks did not help just "Russia"
13:02 schestowitz[TR]; I think you are being harsh on a refugee not being tough on the regime he's at the mercy of
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; snoden harmes surveillance agenda
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; and helped people like us who for many years cautioned abiout the extent of the spying
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; maybe he also helped "russia"
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; but that's a side thing
13:03 schestowitz[TR]; maybe a little fragment of the impact
13:03 XRevan86; schestowitz: A few days ago I voiced my opinion on him, which is basically that he could be a fine guy and should not be killed/incarcerated but he's compromised and doesn't deserve an audience.
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; he does not talk much about russia
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; while having a naturalisaiton applicaiton
13:04 schestowitz[TR]; for his wife and son also
13:05 XRevan86; schestowitz: Yea, his social media is all about criticism of the US.
13:05 TR News; platform/x86/amd/pmf: Add sysfs to toggle CnQF https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/pdx86/platform-drivers-x86.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=3dae5825295d7b3284fc349cd6bfa641f4033e16
13:05 TR Bot; kernel/git/pdx86/platform-drivers-x86.git - Linux x86 platform drivers tree
13:05 XRevan86; Could be valid, could be not, I wouldn't listen to his opinion anyway.
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: this is wehat he knows and saw
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; that's like people who said of Assange
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; he never criticises russia
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; no leaks on russia
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; as if he knows russian
13:05 schestowitz[TR]; it's cheap grade whataboutism
13:06 XRevan86; schestowitz: Snowden is not an investigator, he just puts out opinions, reacts to news.
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; XFaCE: it's like someone smearing techrights
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; ssaying,
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; why don't they leak on JPO
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; and CNIPA
13:06 schestowitz[TR]; we don't even know the language
13:06 TR News; "CnQF (a.k.a Cool and Quiet Framework) extends the static slider concept. PMF dynamically manages system power limits and fan policy based on system power trends which is representative of workload trend." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/pdx86/platform-drivers-x86.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=1738061c9ec854db2db76be8bb968f550d9bdddc
13:06 TR Bot; kernel/git/pdx86/platform-drivers-x86.git - Linux x86 platform drivers tree
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; <XRevan86> schestowitz: Snowden is not an investigator, he just puts out opinions, reacts to news.
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; good enough
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; the IG at NSA is a fraud
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; they are not auditors
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; they are insiders
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; for coverup
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; likme FB and its "councilk" for censorsdhip
13:07 schestowitz[TR]; or Ubuntu and Fedora committees
13:08 schestowitz[TR]; controled by Canonical and ICBM
13:09 XRevan86; schestowitz: Don't really know who that is. Anyway, Snowden doesn't really have an audience anymore anyway, so the Internet has sorted that out.
13:09 schestowitz[TR]; frog: https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2022/09/linux-001-compiling-on-ubuntu-64.html
13:09 TR Bot; Mariuz's Blog: Linux 0.0.1 compiling on Ubuntu 64
13:09 schestowitz[TR]; linux 0.0.1
13:09 schestowitz[TR]; floppy
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; XRevan86: right
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; several points:
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; temporal relevance is a thing
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; he never moved beyod the original topic
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; he uises a censorshiop site
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; twitter
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; which is a huge mistaker
13:10 schestowitz[TR]; they can just silence him any time tyhey want to
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; lots of ways to do it, even without terminating the account
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; his controibution mremains important
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; the material he relased was 'assassinated by peerre omidyar
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; and meanwhile greenwald went off the rails
13:11 schestowitz[TR]; helping some big bigot
13:11 MinceR; https://i.ibb.co/q1zmsvd/Fdycm-Xh-UAAAaz1.jpg
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; greenwald figures defecting to arsholes would keep him relevant
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; sop screw that
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; like michael robertson
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; becoming another esr
13:12 schestowitz[TR]; esr has not done anything important in decades
13:13 schestowitz[TR]; similar to mjg59_
13:13 schestowitz[TR]; after 'secure' boto blunder he became just some foul-mouthed a-hole in twitter who defames people
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13:14 schestowitz[TR]; i used to respect him
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13:14 schestowitz[TR]; in the acpi days
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; when con kolivas quit mainline kernel stuff he did not defame people
13:14 schestowitz[TR]; or try to send LT to therapists
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13:14 schestowitz[TR]; he realised they diodn't like his schedular
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; and ingo molnar didn't fancy adopting it
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; so his time was spent on his career as a physician
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; then he made a comeback with patches maintained outside the main tree
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; and now he says linus is too bloated
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; gnu linux-libre experiences the same
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; the best they can do is AUTOMATE culling
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; and even that it tricky
13:15 schestowitz[TR]; bloated code
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; and very regular new releases
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; not as fast as systemd
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; nobody can fork systemd
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; it becomes irrelevant within weeks
13:16 schestowitz[TR]; not enough time fo get people or companies behind YOIUR fork
13:17 TR News; f2fs: introduce F2FS_IOC_START_ATOMIC_REPLACE https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jaegeuk/f2fs.git/commit/?h=dev-test&id=4c97bc77c1b49091b3650c4313e01a51ce65e2b7
13:17 TR Bot; kernel/git/jaegeuk/f2fs.git - The f2fs filesystem
13:19 TR News; oneAPI is NOT "Development Community". It's a corrupt corporation (Intel) outsourcing some code to a criminal corporation (Microsoft) to be managed using PROPRIETARY tools. Microbell is parroting a false narrative for his sponsors. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-oneAPI-Innovation-2022
13:19 TR Bot; Codeplay Will Now Oversee The oneAPI Development Community - Phoronix
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:21 TR News; Data Visualization Tools for SQL https://linuxhint.com/data-visualization-tools-sql/ Source: Linux Hint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhint.com/data-visualization-tools-sql/
13:21 TR Bot; Data Visualization Tools for SQL
13:25 TR News; SFC hypocrites. We take Microsoft money, then tell you to "Give Up GitHub" (self-promotion for SFC). We moan that LF doesn't allow community in Board (to start a self-fund-raising campaign), now we outsource key parts GNU to LF. SFC: self-serving liars with PR skills?
13:28 TR News; People who call THEMSELVES "social justice warriors" tend to attack those who silently, without bragging, do the actual social justice https://stallmansupport.org/articles-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html#chimamanda
13:28 TR Bot; Articles in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support
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13:37 psydruid; Linux 0.0.1 is the best version ever released
13:38 matteobin; Is this a joke? :D
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; that's what s he said about the frog
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; and then she kissed the front
13:39 schestowitz[TR]; and it turned into a mench
13:41 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
13:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
13:41 matteobin; Ok, it's a joke.
13:41 TR News; (NEW): The Linux Writing Contest, Linux Kernel, and Drivers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/The_Linux_Writing_Contest_Linux_Kernel_and_Drivers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/The_Linux_Writing_Contest_Linux_Kernel_and_Drivers.gmi
13:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines The Linux Writing Contest, Linux Kernel, and Drivers
13:41 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_leftovers.gmi
13:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: I don't think compiling it was a joke
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; seems like this was done
13:42 schestowitz[TR]; and it boots
13:42 psydruid; and it works
13:43 psydruid; what more do you want
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; so I thought our resident Antifeda Deutchland (AfD) booster might want to try that as well
13:43 matteobin; I do compile some of my software.
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; *Antifada Deutschland
13:43 schestowitz[TR]; Linux is massive for a kernel nopw
13:44 matteobin; Anyway sometimes I don't understand if you are trolling me.
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; many redundant parts
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; like clown stuff
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; and many "products'
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; a pain to maintain
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; i think even libreoffice is already smaller than linux
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; with all the staroffice work included
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; though linus does drop a lot of code too
13:44 schestowitz[TR]; but adds a lot faster than it drops
13:44 psydruid; And that is why this early Linux release is so good
13:45 matteobin; How about BSD? I've heard it's still small.
13:45 psydruid; BSD is also good
13:45 matteobin; How about FreeDOS? I like FreeDOS a lot. I use it too.
13:45 psydruid; FreeDOS is even better
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; maintained bya d***
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; who habitually defames gnu/linux founder
13:46 TR News; Links 29/09/2022: Linuxfx 11.2 and Progress on GNOME 43 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/progress-on-gnome-43/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/progress-on-gnome-43/
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; sadly
13:46 TR Bot; Links 29/09/2022: Linuxfx 11.2 and Progress on GNOME 43 | Techrights
13:46 *psydruid is able to keep going for the rest of the day
13:46 schestowitz[TR]; his writings are good though
13:48 psydruid; What I meant is that if there was ever a version of Linux that could be understood by a single person it's probably 0.0.1
13:49 TR News; Not a SINGLE article about "LINUX" in ZDNet... in OVER A WEEK
13:49 psydruid; So you can take a look and try to understand it without having to go through a much larger codebase that surely no single person can oversee and understand anymore
13:50 matteobin; Yes, the guy who made FreeDOS signed the petition against Stallman.
13:51 matteobin; However I don't think it's relevant.
13:51 matteobin; If FreeDOS is good, we shouldn't stop using it. Right?
13:51 matteobin; I must confess I do like MS-DOS and Windows 3.1 as well.
13:51 matteobin; I'm not pure. :D
13:51 psydruid; If you like it and are using it, I don't see a reason to stop doing so
13:51 MinceR; i can't stop using FreeDOS because i never started
13:51 psydruid; Indeed
13:52 matteobin; I was questioning the logic.
13:52 matteobin; I didn't mean to stop using it.
13:53 psydruid; It might be a worthwhile endeavour to question yourself too
13:53 matteobin; If a person does something wrong, should we stop reading his books/watching his films or using his software?
13:53 psydruid; That's a personal choice
13:54 matteobin; What do you mean with questioning myself? What should I question myself about?
13:54 psydruid; Unless said media or products are forbidden by law
13:54 MinceR; there are different levels to this
13:54 matteobin; Yes, it's personal. But does it make sense?
13:54 psydruid; Everything
13:54 psydruid; Yes
13:54 MinceR; reading a book is a lesser level of commitment than using/maintaining/supporting a bit of software
13:55 matteobin; People can change and do wrong things but they can change again.
13:55 MinceR; watching a movie is a lesser level of commitment than contributing to the mindshare of the API of some piece of software
13:55 matteobin; Yes, but we are talking about FreeDOS, we are not talking about GNOME.
13:55 MinceR; creating new software that depends on existing software is even greater
13:55 matteobin; It's an isoloted system.
13:56 MinceR; with an OS, i at least make sure my code is portable so that you can use it on another OS
13:56 matteobin; You are right. Talking about FreeDOS what wrong can arise from its adoption?
13:57 MinceR; dunno
13:57 matteobin; I use FreeDOS for classic DOS games, offline.
13:57 matteobin; FreeDOS is great for embedded devices too.
13:57 MinceR; i occasionally use whatever's built into dosbox but don't develop for it
13:57 psydruid; People who care about and use FreeDOS should be interested in it and do what they can to support it
13:58 matteobin; Anyway
13:58 psydruid; I use Dosbox for the few free DOS games I have installed from GOG
13:58 psydruid; I have no need for FreeDOS, but other people might
13:58 MinceR; yeah, i think some of the games in my GOG library come with dosbox
13:58 matteobin; Besides signing that hate petition, what did Jim Hall against Stallman?
13:59 psydruid; Maybe you can tell us, as I know nothing about this person
14:00 matteobin; I was asking schestowitz[TR]
14:00 matteobin; Jim Hall is the creator of FreeDOS.
14:02 psydruid; Stallman is the creator of the GNU universe (PBUH)
14:02 MinceR; GNUniverse?
14:02 psydruid; Yes
14:08 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/xIOIvmk
14:08 TR Bot; Came home the other night from a double shift to find this. - rimgo
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14:23 TR News; "Ubuntu Pro Golden" https://ubuntu.com//blog/build-ubuntu-pro-golden-image-on-google-cloud
14:23 TR Bot; Ubuntu Pro Golden Image on Google Cloud | Ubuntu
14:24 TR News; The first 300 setopts | daniel.haxx.se https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/09/28/the-first-300-setopts/ Source: Daniel Stenberg | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/09/28/the-first-300-setopts/
14:24 TR Bot; first 300 setopts | daniel.haxx.se
14:25 TR News; syslog-ng 101: how to get started with learning syslog-ng? https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/syslog-ng-101-how-to-get-started-with-learning-syslog-ng
14:25 TR Bot; 101: how to get started with learning syslog-ng? - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
14:26 TR News; Add ML-controlled smart suspension adjustment to your bicycle | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/29/add-ml-controlled-smart-suspension-adjustment-to-your-bicycle/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/29/add-ml-controlled-smart-suspension-adjustment-to-your-bicycle/
14:26 TR Bot; Add ML-controlled smart suspension adjustment to your bicycle | Arduino Blog
14:26 TR News; SMB3 UNIX Extensions - David Mulder https://mytechinsights.wordpress.com/2022/09/28/smb3-unix-extensions/ Source: David Mulder | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mytechinsights.wordpress.com/2022/09/28/smb3-unix-extensions/
14:26 TR Bot; SMB3 UNIX Extensions David Mulder
14:27 TR News; Live streams from the opening session of the LibreOffice Conference 2022 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/09/29/live-streams-from-the-opening-session-of-the-libreoffice-conference-2022/
14:27 TR Bot; Live streams from the opening session of the LibreOffice Conference 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog
14:27 MinceR; https://github.com/RonSijm/ButtFish
14:27 TR Bot; - RonSijm/ButtFish: Effortlessly transmitting Morse Code of chess moves to your butthole
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14:33 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
14:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
14:33 TR News; (NEW): Xfce 4.18 Arriving on Christmas, After Two Long Years http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Xfce_4_18_Arriving_on_Christmas_After_Two_Long_Years.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Xfce_4_18_Arriving_on_Christmas_After_Two_Long_Years.gmi
14:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Xfce 4.18 Arriving on Christmas, After Two Long Years
14:34 TR News; The road to Zettalinux [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/908026/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/908026/
14:34 TR Bot; road to Zettalinux [LWN.net]
14:39 TR News; Torvalds in this photo. Zero girls. https://lwn.net/Articles/908323/
14:39 TR Bot; Kernel Maintainers Summit group photo [LWN.net]
14:54 TR News; "Corporate subscriptions are also available" https://www.phoronix.com/news/Last-Call-2022-Autumn-Sale http://techrights.org/2022/09/16/landing-big-cash-on-phoronix/
14:54 TR Bot; The Last Call For The 2022 Phoronix Premium Oktoberfest/Autumn Special - Phoronix
14:54 TR Bot; Passing Corporate Money Instead of Just Gifts | Techrights
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 129.66
15:06 XRevan86; https://neuters.de/business/media-telecom/exclusive-europe-braces-mobile-network-blackouts-sources-2022-09-29/
15:06 TR Bot; Exclusive: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts
15:07 frog; "EU commissioner announced to stress-test european critical infrastructure"
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15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:25 starstreak; XRevan86, 5.19.12-arch1-1
15:25 starstreak; btw
15:38 TR News; (NEW): Kernel Coverage in LWN, Especially Latest Event/Talks http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Kernel_Coverage_in_LWN_Especially_Latest_Event_Talks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Kernel_Coverage_in_LWN_Especially_Latest_Event_Talks.gmi
15:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kernel Coverage in LWN, Especially Latest Event/Talks
15:46 TR News; Finland's Covid cases to rise again, health authority predicts https://yle.fi/news/3-12643340
15:46 TR Bot; Finland's Covid cases to rise again, health authority predicts | News | Yle Uutiset
15:59 starstreak; AI Art: Mothman https://i.imgur.com/aT0dchR.png
16:12 TR News; The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture Us (or Anybody) on Diversity | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/the-linux-foundation-is-in-no-position-to-lecture-us-or-anybody-on-diversity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/the-linux-foundation-is-in-no-position-to-lecture-us-or-anybody-on-diversity/
16:12 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture Us (or Anybody) on Diversity | Techrights
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16:15 MinceR; Mon Mothman
16:18 frog; the initial root.squashfs which shall contain no dependency against GNU-toolchain/buildsystem... it's tiny: 24MiB (compressed)
16:18 frog; and, it's gonne be even smaller, once the cleansing finished
16:19 frog; i will have to rewrite many makefiles, to avoid the typical GNU configure[.ac]/makefile[.am|in] clutter
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:30 TR News; COVID-19 Pandemic Isn't Over (Claiming That It is Only Worsens Things) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/
16:30 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Pandemic Isnt Over (Claiming That It is Only Worsens Things)
16:36 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/twitter.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-twitter#comic )
16:36 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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16:46 starstreak; C64OS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVeW2ZlV2WU
16:46 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=MVeW2ZlV2WU
16:47 TR Bot; invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | AMAZING New OS for the 40-year-old Commodore 64! C64 OS Review - Invidious
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17:05 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/funny-pictures-8-4-22-8.jpg
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17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:38 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/B5M3ZFI.jpeg
17:39 psydroid2; https://blog.google/products/stadia/message-on-stadia-streaming-strategy/
17:39 TR Bot; A message about Stadia and our long term streaming strategy
17:42 schestowitz[TR]; stadia still exists?
17:43 psydroid2; it does
17:43 psydroid2; until January
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; they lost lots of money on it
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; I forgot all about it
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; Gulag
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; only foolks use gulag things
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; like golang
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; you never kn ow if they will cancel it
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; golang can be like rust
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; abandoned by the core people
17:43 psydroid2; technically it was great apparently, but they didn't know how to get customers for it
17:43 schestowitz[TR]; who kill themselves or seek help
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; they spammed youtube with it
17:44 psydroid2; I wonder which gaming company makes a profit
17:44 psydroid2; M$ is also faking its numbers, so you can't trust those
17:44 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft is a "dfence" contactor
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; now there is war in ukraine
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; nadella sits back and sips wine
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; the mnoney just flows in
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; even for projects that do not exist!
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; like happened in iraq
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; contract for [something that makes no sense]
17:45 schestowitz[TR]; with 1000 the cost it should have
17:45 psydroid2; contract for helping to kill innocent people
17:46 psydroid2; and stealing their resources
17:46 schestowitz[TR]; shoooph!
17:46 schestowitz[TR]; that's a coc violation
17:46 schestowitz[TR]; fional warming
17:46 schestowitz[TR]; final warning
17:49 MinceR; final warming
17:49 MinceR; final for us
17:51 psydroid2; before nuclear winter hits us
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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18:53 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/08/03/cool-geography-pics/
18:53 TR Bot; Our Planet Has Fascinating Geography And This Online Group Showcases It (40 Pics)
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:59 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/funny-pictures-8-2-22-15.jpg
20:10 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/29/apple_age_discrimination/
20:10 TR Bot; Apple exec sues over 'ageist' removal of $800k stock bonus The Register
20:11 AdmFubar; MinceR, they might mean football players
20:13 MinceR; :)
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20:41 TR News; (NEW): Security-Oriented Distro Parrot 5.1 Arrives with AnonSurf 4, Linux Kernel 5.18, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Security_Oriented_Distro_Parrot_5_1_Arrives_with_AnonSurf_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Security_Oriented_Distro_Parrot_5_1_Arrives_with_AnonSurf_4.gmi
20:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security-Oriented Distro Parrot 5.1 Arrives with AnonSurf 4, Linux Kernel 5.18, and More
20:42 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Satellite 6.11.3 has been released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Red_Hat_Satellite_6_11_3_has_been_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Red_Hat_Satellite_6_11_3_has_been_released.gmi
20:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Satellite 6.11.3 has been released
20:42 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
20:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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20:52 TR News; JUST when they tell you autumn is here the numbers begin to soar. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/
20:52 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 Pandemic Isnt Over (Claiming That It is Only Worsens Things)
20:53 TR News; The Linux Foundation cannot define support and cannot understand how to support women so instead it trolls people; it also hires no black people and just like IBM it then accuses the community of being an impediment to diversity (community projects actually have more such diversity) http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/the-linux-foundation-is-in-no-position-to-lecture-us-or-anybody-on-diversity/
20:53 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture Us (or Anybody) on Diversity | Techrights
20:58 TR News; Forth without IF THEN ELSE jumping around gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-09-29.forth.if.gmi
20:58 TR News; Legend of Homebody (PC) gemini://pennywhether.xyz/articles/Legend-Homebody.gmi
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21:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Got the Buick back with the new ABS computer and pump.
21:03 DaemonFC; The brakes ....feel different. Too soon to say whether the problem will come back or not.
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21:04 DaemonFC; But I'd be surprised if it did. There's only so much ABS junk in there, and the sensors got replaced with the front wheel bearings previously.
21:04 DaemonFC; They couldn't match the paint on the fender again, so he's just going to order another fender and it'll be about a week and then it goes in hopefully to get that done, finally.
21:05 DaemonFC; This one is just going to go on no matter how it looks as long as it's not terrible. Because I'm tired of waiting.
21:05 TR News; Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Facilitating a Hostile Takeover by Corporations (Privatising Free Software) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/video-on-sourceware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/video-on-sourceware/
21:05 TR Bot; Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Facilitating a Hostile Takeover by Corporations (Privatising Free Software) | Techrights
21:06 TR News; 4pm update on covid19: truly awful. Worse than prior autumns. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/29/autumn-surge/
21:06 DaemonFC; I really do like the car, it's just that the last owner let these niggling little issues pile up and now I get to sort them out. The ones that are far too annoying to live with, anyway.
21:06 DaemonFC; That's how cars are.
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; cars are like this
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; luxury ones the same
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; but with luxury fees
21:07 schestowitz[TR]; premiuums
21:08 DaemonFC; Fuel vapor leak? Only worth fixing because it would narc you out to emissions.
21:08 DaemonFC; It's never going to cost enough to be worth it due to gas mileage.
21:09 DaemonFC; For the most part, the issues that apply to the 2008 Chevy Impala apply to the Buick as well, however the Buick is using better parts in many cases.
21:10 DaemonFC; I noticed that the Buick division used the same engines, however they came from the factory with metal valve covers and upper and lower intakes.
21:10 DaemonFC; The Impala switched to plastic in 2002 and basically what that means is that sooner or later it cracks and you have intake and valve cover problems that need to be fixed.
21:11 DaemonFC; They were a more expensive car, so the engineers didn't cut as many corners.
21:11 DaemonFC; Which I thought was interesting. How many 60+ year olds are going to buy a car and go "What is this crap? PLASTIC!? This is going to give me a problem in 15 years!".
21:12 DaemonFC; How many people for that matter?
21:12 DaemonFC; I'm glad this car was designed before the "throw it away every 2 years" iPhone mentality made it into the automobile market.
21:14 DaemonFC; The CANBUS stuff in the Linux kernel is interesting.
21:14 DaemonFC; In that it's cheaper for auto makers to control things like this with Linux on the car now.
21:15 DaemonFC; I was talking to my mechanic about that because he mentioned you have to program the Brake Module to interface with the CANBUS. It's not just "plug and play". Of course it wouldn't be. That would be far too simple, wouldn't it?
21:16 DaemonFC; You have to program it to talk to the computer (which only shops will be able to do of course) because they can't just put a ROM into it at the factory so you can stick it in the car.
21:16 DaemonFC; Brake Control Module is not a driveway car repair.
21:17 DaemonFC; You need an expensive diagnostic computer that is capable of programming it to the car when you're done or else it won't work and you'll have the dashboard lights on complaining that you need to service the ABS/Traction Module.
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21:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], As Donald Trump said.....If you'd stop testing all of these people you "wouldn't have so many cases".
21:24 DaemonFC; Biden/Liz Trump edition
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; stop testing for pregnancy
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; births would stop
21:24 DaemonFC; Stop testing for STDs, the syphilis crisis would go away!
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; but
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; get ready to explain why maany people die
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; or do
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; do not
21:24 DaemonFC; Stop testing the students and give everyone an A, you'll have the smarted country on Earth. Which is basically where the Democrat Party in Illinois has gone.
21:24 schestowitz[TR]; make stories up
21:25 DaemonFC; Wouldn't want to be rayciss.
21:25 DaemonFC; And admit that some are smarter than others. "Ableist"
21:25 DaemonFC; The left actually says that part of "toxic masculinity" is "a drive to succeed". Which means to get rid of the toxicity, we need to stop trying to improve ourselves.
21:25 DaemonFC; At least they admit it openly, I suppose.
21:26 DaemonFC; I wonder what mjg59_ would say with his Conde NASTY SJW(TM) hat on.
21:27 DaemonFC; We need to (a) stop trying to better ourselves, (b) stop working so much and go sign up at the welfare office, (c) let everyone into college because that will indebt....I mean because we'll just stop the tests and pretend everyone has the same abilities when they do not.
21:28 DaemonFC; Freedom is irrelevant! Self-determination is irrelevant! Individuality is irrelevant! You will be assimilated! - mjg59_
21:29 DaemonFC; Then when the country collapses into Communism, they can finally control everyone. Most people will be poor and unable to find or buy any food instead of "only" 15%, it'll be like 80%.
21:29 DaemonFC; Leftists improve your whole country overnight. Why just look at what Castro and the Kims were able to do with it.
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; it's not about freedom per se
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; but dignity
21:30 DaemonFC; Batista was a corrupt piece of shit that was auctioning off Cuba cheaply to American companies, and the Cubans were very mad about it, and they were quite right to depose him, however things did not really improve after they installed Castro. They just got bad in different ways.
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; freedom in the US became a meaningless term
21:30 schestowitz[TR]; brb
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: I do an article on 'secuire' boot
21:31 schestowitz[TR]; want to proofread?
21:31 DaemonFC; Yeah.
21:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Well, if it's not actually hurting anyone, you should have a right to do whatever you want regardless of what the laws are.
21:32 DaemonFC; Unfortunately, we have this really ridiculous thing where people commit 10 felonies a day along with a pile of misdemeanors and infractions, just innocently going about their daily lives.
21:32 TR News; # a sudden sprinkle gemini://ming.smol.pub/a-sudden-sprinkle
21:32 DaemonFC; If the government wants to make a criminal of someone, they can do it to anyone they want.
21:32 TR News; Polyphia - Ego Death (feat. Steve Pai) gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/music2
21:33 DaemonFC; All you have to do is follow them around a little while and enforce the law on them at some point.
21:33 DaemonFC; Everyone is a criminal, so don't give me that high and mighty crap because they haven't chosen to make a federal case out of something you've done....yet.
21:34 DaemonFC; I know of probably hundreds of things off the top of my head that I could have gotten in trouble for and just didn't.
21:34 DaemonFC; Including looking down at my speedometer and realizing that I was doing 50 in a 30.
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; i'll soon have the video uploaded fully
21:34 schestowitz[TR]; than i'll post the draft
21:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Driving a luxury car is a good way to get tickets.
21:35 DaemonFC; It feels like you're going slower than you are.
21:35 DaemonFC; Cheap cars right like shit so as you go over any defects in the road, you'll realize it and slow down, and they have smaller engines.
21:36 DaemonFC; *ride
21:36 DaemonFC; These insurance apps don't seem to really punish you for having a lead foot, unless you make a habit out of going over 80 on the freeway.
21:37 DaemonFC; But of course, their policy on how to treat speeding that you aren't ticketed for could change.
21:38 DaemonFC; Right now, the only thing that hurts you very much related to speed is if a cop actually bothers to pull you over and the ticket sticks in court. And there's ways around that too, like agreeing to court supervision to pay a fine and keep it off your record.
21:38 DaemonFC; They threaten to unleash the kraken if you don't agree to pay the fine.
21:38 DaemonFC; So you agree that the fine is big and they don't release the kraken (the insurance companies).
21:45 DaemonFC; I cleaned up the mess Fedora 36 left behind after the upgrade.
21:45 DaemonFC; It was bigger than I thought it would be. It's covered on the Fedora wiki how to do that though.
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/no-protection-for-linux-from-monopolies/
21:50 schestowitz[TR]; draft
21:50 TR Bot; No Protection for Linux Offered by the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights
21:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Are you doing anything on GNU Toolchain moving to the Linux Foundation?
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; yes
21:51 schestowitz[TR]; see prior articles and videos
21:51 DaemonFC; Corruption in GNU.
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; the fake gnu
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; not the original gnu
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; the coup
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; IBMers
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: have a look
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; find typoes etc
21:52 schestowitz[TR]; typos
21:52 DaemonFC; Parts of it entangle themselves with the Linux Foundation, others demand the end of copyright assignment, a few others still sign the Attack on RMS letter that mjg59_ promotes on Microsoft.
21:55 MinceR; https://i.redd.it/puzord7qp5251.jpg https://img.ifunny.co/images/5c47e96a0982a04430cf2da420d875e2b3936de17629689efab040fea70f2ab7_1.jpg
22:01 TR News; No Protection for Linux Offered by the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/no-protection-for-linux-from-monopolies/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/no-protection-for-linux-from-monopolies/
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: i fixed many typos
22:01 schestowitz[TR]; if you are still at it
22:02 schestowitz[TR]; about to publish the next video shortly
22:13 DaemonFC; Looks good now.
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; :D
22:13 schestowitz[TR]; thanks for spot checking
22:14 TR News; Facts About the European Patent Office and Why Recruiting/Retaining Capable Examiners Isnt Possible Anymore | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/capable-examiners-leaving/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/capable-examiners-leaving/
22:14 TR Bot; Facts About the European Patent Office and Why Recruiting/Retaining Capable Examiners Isnt Possible Anymore | Techrights
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:22 psydruid; Ultimate protection offered to Jim & Sheela
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; big salaries
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; and they defraud people
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; without any consequences
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; "coz linus"
22:22 schestowitz[TR]; "coz crypto"
22:25 TR News; [Meme] EPO Would Probably Argue Its Just a Coincidence That Women Have Received, on Average, Only 0.88 Steps to Every 1 Step Awarded to Men | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/epo-misogyny/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/epo-misogyny/
22:25 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Would Probably Argue Its Just a Coincidence That Women Have Received, on Average, Only 0.88 Steps to Every 1 Step Awarded to Men | Techrights
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22:36 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1575569340820500480 Russian Media Monitor got Facebooked.
22:36 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Perhaps now people will understand why they shouldn't have shared clips where someone took my translated videos and added their own fake translations "for fun." This was the real purpose of doing that: now stupid @Facebook is marking my authentic translations with this notice."|nitter.it
22:36 highest_cubist_thrills; as in they moved to facebook, or as in they reached the level of invisibilty that putlin subjects facebook to
22:36 highest_cubist_thrills; /me cant imagine its the former, because of the latter
22:37 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: Didn't know she has a Facebook page but apparently so, with YouTube links. Judging from the screenshot.
22:38 highest_cubist_thrills; wild
22:40 XRevan86; https://reuters.com/article/idUSL1N3102AL Nothing wrong here at least.
22:40 TR Bot; Check-Clip of Russian television presenter dubbed with fabricated satirical subtitles | Reuters
22:40 *XRevan86 fact-checked the fact check.
22:41 TR News; EPO Management Plans to Further Accelerate Grants of Illegal, Invalid, Fake European Patents Next Year | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/epo-bogus-patents/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/29/epo-bogus-patents/
22:41 TR Bot; EPO Management Plans to Further Accelerate Grants of Illegal, Invalid, Fake European Patents Next Year | Techrights
22:42 XRevan86; Heh, the satirical video doesn't even have the RMN watermarks.
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22:44 TR News; EclipSmart Binoculars Arrived gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220929-0.gmi
22:45 TR News; "this lenovo ideapad s10-2 i got cheapo without battery even has a hdd (was supposed not to iirc), but the display was supposed to be functional and it never lights up (except for when i insert the dc plug, especially if sparkingly, then it does for a split second)" gemini://g.mikf.pl/tinylog.gmi
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22:47 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
22:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
22:47 TR News; Winner, Name that Ware August 2022 https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6573 Name that Ware, September 2022 https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6575
22:47 TR Bot; Winner, Name that Ware August 2022 bunnie's blog
22:48 TR Bot; Name that Ware, September 2022 bunnie's blog
22:48 TR News; Fedora Broke H264 GPU Acceleration For "Legal Reasons" - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pbJZ7BzoCSU yet ICBM is STILL lobbying FOR software patents!!
22:49 TR Bot; Fedora Broke H264 GPU Acceleration For "Legal Reasons" - Invidious
22:49 TR News; "The controversial change for the GNU Toolchain, critical vulnerabilities in popular Matrix clients, and the significant milestone for the Ingenuity LinuxCopter this week." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8867 http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/video-on-sourceware/
22:49 TR Bot; Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Facilitating a Hostile Takeover by Corporations (Privatising Free Software) | Techrights
22:53 TR News; SFC: pleas DONATE to us. So we can pay Karen over $200,000 PER YEAR.
22:56 TR News; UPDATE today: GNUe DCL (Double Choco Latte) version 0.9.5RC15 (developmental) released on 11 October 2020 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Double_Choco_Latte
22:56 TR Bot; Double Choco Latte - Free Software Directory
22:57 TR News; (NEW): Linux Distro Reviews: Gnome http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Linux_Distro_Reviews_Gnome.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Linux_Distro_Reviews_Gnome.gmi
22:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Distro Reviews: Gnome
22:57 TR News; The EPO has quit behaving like a patent office; its just issuing a lot of bogus patents to meet pre-defined targets and then it bullies examiners into blind compliance http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/epo-bogus-patents/
22:57 TR News; Women barely get promotions at the EPO (men are 54% more likely to receive a double step compared to women); the EPO keeps storytelling to distract from these measurable facts http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/epo-misogyny/
22:58 TR News; (NEW): Linux Distro Reviews: Xfce http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Linux_Distro_Reviews_Xfce.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Linux_Distro_Reviews_Xfce.gmi
22:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Distro Reviews: Xfce
22:58 TR News; A couple of new papers (or parts of a long paper) reveal an office responsible for granting patents which intentionally fails to do the job properly http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/capable-examiners-leaving/
22:58 TR Bot; Facts About the European Patent Office and Why Recruiting/Retaining Capable Examiners Isnt Possible Anymore | Techrights
22:58 TR News; From a purely objective perspective, the so-called Linux Foundation spends far more time/money protecting monopolies than it spends protecting Linux; hence, the organisation arguably does more harm than good to society http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/no-protection-for-linux-from-monopolies/
22:58 TR Bot; No Protection for Linux Offered by the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights
22:58 TR News; The Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC), which is trying to take business and funds away from the FSF (also from SFLC, which sued it over that), helps IBM/Red Hat and the corporate front groups take over important GNU projects, typically under the guise of providing security and funds http://techrights.org/2022/09/29/video-on-sourceware/
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 147.85
23:07 TR News; Sayak Boral = Microsoft bullshit artist. When he says "command line" he means Windows. That's all he ever promotes. https://www.maketecheasier.com/run-java-program-from-command-prompt/
23:07 TR Bot; How to Run a Java Program from the Command Prompt - Make Tech Easier
23:09 TR News; SpiralLinux 11.220925 overview | Linux, faster than a snail - Invidious <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Video" href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=411gGBe3Tjg">Read on</a>
23:09 TR Bot; SpiralLinux 11.220925 overview | Linux, faster than a snail - Invidious
23:09 TR News; Stadia, Kindle, Stream decks and more - A Trendy Talk - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2Qp06zThfpg | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/2Qp06zThfpg
23:09 TR Bot; Stadia, Kindle, Stream decks and more - A Trendy Talk - Invidious
23:10 TR News; Enterprise Linux Security Episode Episode 44 - Is Linux less of a Target? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ALE3s8lYvP0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ALE3s8lYvP0
23:10 TR Bot; Enterprise Linux Security Episode Episode 44 - Is Linux less of a Target? - Invidious
23:14 DaemonFC; Microsoft's anti-OpenGL strategy seemed to be that they wouldn't block it from running on Windows, but that all of the graphics card companies would implement it differently until developers just didn't want to deal with it anymore.
23:14 DaemonFC; Vulkan isn't repeating those errors.
23:15 DaemonFC; Microsoft was on the OpenGL ARB until they decided that sabotage and "competing" (by making DirectX perform better using undocumented Windows features and being in the kernel) was the way to go.
23:16 TR News; Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Release Notes | Ubuntu MATE https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-kinetic-kudu-release-notes/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-kinetic-kudu-release-notes/
23:16 TR Bot; Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Release Notes | Ubuntu MATE
23:16 TR News; (NEW): Videos/Shows: Fedora, Security, Stadia, SpiralLinux, Linux Action News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Videos_Shows_Fedora_Security_Stadia_SpiralLinux_Linux_Action_Ne.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Videos_Shows_Fedora_Security_Stadia_SpiralLinux_Linux_Action_Ne.gmi
23:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Fedora, Security, Stadia, SpiralLinux, Linux Action News
23:17 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
23:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
23:17 DaemonFC; Welp, it's that time again. Time to pour some drain opener crap down the tub.
23:17 TR News; [Because crackers will obey laws??] iTWire - Optus breach: Labor pledge to update laws covering security https://itwire.com/security/optus-breach-labor-pledge-to-update-laws-covering-security.html Source: IT Wire
23:17 TR Bot; - Optus breach: Labor pledge to update laws covering security
23:18 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG thinks I'm retarded, but apparently not retarded enough to be mom's landlord who failed upwards like they all do, and then destroyed his own plumbing by using 50 times more than the bottle said to.
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 TR News; Ubuntu as ultimate spyware. https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-desktop-on-amazon-workspaces
23:20 TR Bot; Arrives on Amazon WorkSpaces: The First Fully Managed Ubuntu VDI on a Public Cloud | Ubuntu
23:26 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Update, Ubuntu Advertised for GAFAM Surveillance (Clown Computing) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Ubuntu_MATE_22_10_Update_Ubuntu_Advertised_for_GAFAM_Surveillan.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Ubuntu_MATE_22_10_Update_Ubuntu_Advertised_for_GAFAM_Surveillan.gmi
23:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu MATE 22.10 Update, Ubuntu Advertised for GAFAM Surveillance (Clown Computing)
23:27 TR News; Statement on the fatal flaws found in a defunct CIA covert communications system - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/09/statement-on-the-fatal-flaws-found-in-a-defunct-cia-covert-communications-system/ Source: Citizen Lab | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//citizenlab.ca/2022/09/statement-on-the-fatal-flaws-found-in-a-defunct-cia-covert-communications-system/
23:27 TR Bot; Statement on the fatal flaws found in a defunct CIA covert communications system - The Citizen Lab
23:27 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IGMabBGydC0
23:27 TR Bot; Rusted Root - Send Me On My Way (Official Music Video) - Invidious
23:27 TR News; Proprietary software = garbage https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-malware-backdoors-vmware-esxi-servers-to-hijack-virtual-machines/
23:27 TR Bot; New malware backdoors VMware ESXi servers to hijack virtual machines
23:28 schestowitz[TR]; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- citizenlab.ca | Statement on the fatal flaws found in a defunct CIA covert communications system - The Citizen Lab
23:28 schestowitz[TR]; ask mjg59_
23:28 schestowitz[TR]; the back doors proponent
23:28 highest_cubist_thrills; /me doesnt recommend running rust as root
23:28 schestowitz[TR]; how many people he'll kill
23:28 schestowitz[TR]; with his "contribution"
23:28 highest_cubist_thrills; i think if you want to blame mjg for literal deaths you need more evidence
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; if stallman had killed himself i would have blamed mjg, just like i blame kf for near.
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; he doesnt understand how much he has in common with them.
23:29 TR News; "Depending on where you are when you download your Android apps, it might collect more or less data about you." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/differences-in-app-security-privacy-based-on-country.html
23:29 TR Bot; in App Security/Privacy Based on Country - Schneier on Security
23:29 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont know of any deaths hes responsible for, other than metaphorically.
23:30 highest_cubist_thrills; and blaming people for suicides is tricky at best
23:30 DaemonFC; Someone is proposing adding Rust to GNOME Web.
23:30 highest_cubist_thrills; but im not above doing so
23:30 TR News; Rust promoted by Microsoft and SJVN ... inside Linux https://linuxsecurity.com/news/security-trends/rust-is-eating-into-our-systems-and-it-s-a-good-thing
23:30 TR Bot; Rust Is Eating into our Systems, and It's a Good Thing | LinuxSecu...
23:30 DaemonFC; It makes no sense. GNOME Web is small and the C code works fine.
23:30 DaemonFC; In fact, it's not only small, but it still gets smaller.
23:31 highest_cubist_thrills; he doesnt understand how much he has in common with them <- he doesnt understand that his politics are just as shallow as fucking kanyes
23:31 TR News; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 2 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-2 Source: Godot Engine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-2
23:32 DaemonFC; In the last several years they ripped out the plugins code, the PDF.js just got moved into Webkit because Apple puts it there now, the ad blocker got removed after I wrote up a request (which mjg59_ says should have been ignored because of my opinion on trans people) to delete it and adopt Webkit Content Blockers.
23:32 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 2
23:32 MinceR; who's kf, who's near
23:32 DaemonFC; Because Apple's method to block ads is less of a disaster and their problem to maintain.
23:32 MinceR; oh, i guess kf is kiwifarms
23:32 highest_cubist_thrills; near is a late friend of some people here
23:32 MinceR; ic
23:32 highest_cubist_thrills; and you-- already got it yes
23:32 highest_cubist_thrills; this isnt a point i want to overstate so
23:33 highest_cubist_thrills; lets just go with kanye.
23:33 TR News; IBM promoting the lie that "The LF was originally founded in 2000" (no, not really, but they put this lie in Wikipedia) https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/09/the-open-software-foundation.html see http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/lf-year-of-formation/
23:33 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Importance of Open Source Digital Wallets to the Future of the Internet
23:33 TR Bot; Wikipedia Helps Linux Foundation Spread Lies, Revisionism | Techrights
23:33 DaemonFC; Over 18,000 source lines of code came out which were really terrible and caused the browser to crash and mis-render pages and was constantly getting worse.
23:34 DaemonFC; And only like 450 lines or something went in to hook into Content Blockers and grab the filters, which is functionality that's in the engine anyway.
23:34 TR News; A Large-scale Investigation into Geodifferences in Mobile Apps https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/kumar
23:34 TR Bot; A Large-scale Investigation into Geodifferences in Mobile Apps | USENIX
23:34 DaemonFC; I think everyone was really happy to see ephy_adblock come out.
23:34 DaemonFC; It made the browser a real nightmare for years where you had to actually go in and dig out tracker blocking because it was breaking sites.
23:35 TR News; Geneva Declaration: international community unites to end spyware abuse - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/geneva-declaration-end-spyware-abuse/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/geneva-declaration-end-spyware-abuse/
23:35 TR Bot; Geneva Declaration: international community unites to end spyware abuse - Access Now
23:35 DaemonFC; And in some cases, it failed to prevent ads from being downloaded. It just stopped them from being shown. And a lot of the cosmetic filters didn't work.
23:36 TR News; CISA promotes back doors mindset; should you take its advice? https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/29/cisa-publishes-user-guide-prepare-nov-1-move-tlp-20
23:36 TR Bot; CISA Publishes User Guide to Prepare for Nov. 1 Move to TLP 2.0 | CISA
23:36 DaemonFC; Someone quickly wrote up a partial ABP filter implementation and called it a day, most of it from before Webkit when Epiphany was using Gecko.
23:36 DaemonFC; And I don't think the code was being audited for security issues if they were just barely keeping it working anyway.
23:36 DaemonFC; So the less code, the better. And that's true in any language.
23:37 highest_cubist_thrills; cancel culture is a dangerous game, it occasionally ends a life in the literal sense
23:37 highest_cubist_thrills; its intended to ruin people-- some deserve it. its a real problem when they dont.
23:37 DaemonFC; Unfortunately, people write things and then it sprawls and sprawls and they don't actually go back and fix bugs.
23:37 DaemonFC; I don't see how "Rust" fixes all of that.
23:37 TR News; "A threat actor possibly based in China is deploying a new multiplatform piece of malware named Chaos that is infecting SOHO routers, brute-forcing SSH password, ising known vulnerabilities to propagate, and launching DDoS attacks against a variety of targets." https://duo.com/decipher/new-chaos-malware-targets-windows-and-linux-devices
23:37 TR Bot; New Chaos Malware Targets Windows and Linux Devices | Decipher
23:37 DaemonFC; Apple _must_ maintain Content Blockers because they're using it in Safari.
23:38 highest_cubist_thrills; fun for the whole family
23:38 DaemonFC; So lobbing this problem onto Apple and making them pay for it is the right choice.
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23:38 highest_cubist_thrills; wholesome, even puritanical fun
23:38 DaemonFC; It frees up GNOME developers to solve actual bugs in the GNOME Web tree someplace else.
23:39 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
23:39 TR News; THIS IS A LIE: "Doesnt Rely on a Server"... it DOES... containers don't run on air. This is how CLOWN computing made people utterly dumb or deliberately dishonest. https://containerjournal.com/features/exploring-the-benefits-of-containerization/
23:39 DaemonFC; The port of PDF.js to the browser wasn't as good as the one in WebkitGTK 2.38/GNOME Web 43.
23:39 TR Bot; Exploring the Benefits of Containerization - Container Journal
23:39 DaemonFC; The browser is the wrong place to implement this sort of thing.
23:39 DaemonFC; Make as much of it as possible Apple's problem.
23:40 DaemonFC; Then there's more resources to deal with GTK wrappers, Firefox Sync, sandbox models, figuring out where the bugs are in the code you can't ditch and fixing those instead.
23:41 *techuser (~techuser@m5xis46sftpfi.irc) has joined #techrights
23:41 TR News; Brute force vs passwords. Is this really a security issue? Barely even DDOS. https://www.fosslife.org/chaos-malware-targets-home-routers-ddos-attacks
23:41 TR Bot; Chaos Malware Targets Home Routers with DDoS Attacks
23:42 TR News; Godot still needs to DeleteGitHub https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-2
23:42 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 2
23:42 starstreak; linucks
23:42 TR News; Proprietary issues https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/29/cisa-releases-six-industrial-control-systems-advisories
23:42 TR Bot; CISA Releases Six Industrial Control Systems Advisories | CISA
23:43 TR News; "One hundred and three apps have differences based on country in their privacy policies." https://theconversation.com/the-same-app-can-pose-a-bigger-security-and-privacy-threat-depending-on-the-country-where-you-download-it-study-finds-189099
23:43 TR Bot; The same app can pose a bigger security and privacy threat depending on the country where you download it, study finds
23:43 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
23:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
23:44 MinceR; btw
23:44 TR News; Cambodias Press Freedom Under Attack, Report Finds https://www.voanews.com/a/cambodia-s-press-freedom-under-attack-report-finds-/6767193.html
23:44 TR Bot; Cambodia's Press Freedom 'Under Attack,' Report Finds
23:44 highest_cubist_thrills; :)
23:45 TR News; Marketing webspam sponsored by the company it is covering https://thenewstack.io/cuda-12-harnesses-a-nvidias-speedier-gpu-architecture/
23:45 TR Bot; CUDA 12 Harnesses Nvidia's Speedier GPU Architecture - The New Stack
23:45 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MtN1YnoL46Q
23:45 TR Bot; The Duck Song - Invidious
23:45 highest_cubist_thrills; ducks != penguins
23:45 TR News; "Vulnerability: Improper Input Validation, Improper Privilege Management, Improper Access Control, Improper Handling of Unexpected Data Type." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-272-01
23:45 TR Bot; Hitachi Energy MicroSCADA Pro X SYS600 | CISA
23:46 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lfQnjiSvxMA
23:46 TR Bot; Mary Poppins (1964) The Penguin Dance - Invidious
23:46 TR News; "NULL Pointer Dereference, Infinite Loop" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-272-02
23:46 TR Bot; Hitachi Energy MicroSCADA Pro X SYS600 | CISA
23:46 highest_cubist_thrills; alooo maayyree pohpins!
23:46 highest_cubist_thrills; poor man couldnt do an english accent to save his life
23:47 TR News; SUSE is shilling criminals (Microsoft), reminding us that after Novell we should still avoid SUSE https://www.suse.com/c/upgrades-for-azure-hybrid-benefit/
23:47 TR Bot; for Azure Hybrid Benefit | SUSE Communities
23:47 highest_cubist_thrills; oh bert! thats not how you install linucks!
23:47 TR News; Weston 11.0: what's new, what's next https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/weston-11-whats-new-whats-next.html
23:47 TR Bot; Weston 11.0: what's new, what's next
23:48 MinceR; (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/DEnZlNp
23:48 TR Bot; Feline Behavior Post- Environmental Enrichment - rimgo
23:48 highest_cubist_thrills; "ohm sooory marryeee! i dunnoe linucks!"
23:49 DaemonFC; Like our Canadian friends would recognize Red Green saying..... Stick around. I don't know what this is, but we've got a whole lot more of it. Those people will just move to Rust and write disasters in that.
23:49 TR News; No one is safe: As UN debates spyware threats, rights groups say ban it https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/spyware-human-rights-groups-say-ban
23:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/spyware-human-rights-groups-say-ban )
23:49 DaemonFC; Nothing changes, fundamentally, because when they realize that you can't do a lot of things they want to do in safe mode, they'll just start putting unsafe everywhere.
23:50 TR News; The internet is dead in Iran: Protests targeted by shutdown https://www.reuters.com/article/iran-internet-shutdown/feature-the-internet-is-dead-in-iran-protests-targeted-by-shutdown-idINL8N2ZM0AS
23:50 TR Bot; internet is dead in Iran': Protests targeted by shutdown | Reuters
23:50 DaemonFC; If that hasn't already happened.
23:50 DaemonFC; Then they go "Well, unsafes make you more aware of what you're doing.". Where's the evidence for that?
23:50 TR News; (UPDATED): weston 11.0.0 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/weston_11_0_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/22/weston_11_0_0.gmi
23:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines weston 11.0.0 (UPDATED)
23:51 DaemonFC; Where's the evidence that they won't do something like cut out the parking brakes, like I did to the Impala when I saw what it would have cost to repair them?
23:51 DaemonFC; You know, so to speak.
23:51 TR News; Amid mass resignation in vastly more critical teams https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/09/29/announcing-the-rust-style-team.html
23:51 TR Bot; Announcing the Rust Style Team | Inside Rust Blog
23:51 highest_cubist_thrills; shes such a teas
23:51 DaemonFC; I told mom that it was easier to avoid parking on a hill than it was to cough up $800 or $900 to deal with that mess.
23:51 DaemonFC; So don't park on hills. :)
23:52 highest_cubist_thrills; Mary Poppins (1964) <- same year as BASIC
23:52 TR News; "Today we have released Qt 6.4! The latest version of [PROPRIETARY] Qt introduces support for a new platform" https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.4-released
23:52 TR Bot; Qt 6.4 Released
23:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and dtss (the pre-unix timesharing system everyone is too proud to admit existed)
23:53 TR News; Qt targets Android https://www.qt.io/blog/getting-started-with-qt-for-android
23:53 TR Bot; Getting Started With Qt for Android
23:53 TR News; Dialogs in Qt Quick https://www.qt.io/blog/dialogs-in-qt-quick Source: Qt | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/dialogs-in-qt-quick
23:53 TR Bot; Dialogs in Qt Quick
23:54 TR News; Did the TGS2022 Help The Steam Deck Gain Awareness in Japan? Apparently Yes! - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/did-the-tgs2022-help-the-steam-deck-gain-awareness-in-japan-apparently-yes/ Source: Boiling Steam
23:54 TR Bot; Did the TGS2022 Help The Steam Deck Gain Awareness in Japan? Apparently Yes! - Boiling Steam
23:55 TR News; <li><h5><a href="https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-2">Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 2</a></h5>
23:55 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 2
23:56 TR News; Who did NOT see this coming? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/google-gives-up-on-stadia-will-offer-refunds-on-games-and-hardware/
23:56 TR Bot; gives up on Stadia, will offer refunds on games and hardware | GamingOnLinux
23:56 DaemonFC; mjg59_, also failed to specify where the worst offenders are for buggy code in the Linux kernel.
23:56 DaemonFC; Hardware vendors doing drive-by dumpings of drivers.
23:57 DaemonFC; One of the many criticisms of Linux by the BSD people tends to be that Linux will accept badly written hardware drivers just to get one, and so all the vendors care about is writing a bad driver that's good enough to make it pass "code review" which isn't at a very high bar these days for sure. *cough* Paragon NTFS *cough*
23:58 DaemonFC; The language the driver is written in is an aside when you consider that nobody in charge of the kernel is willing to put their foot down and say "NO!" "You WILL fix this.".
23:59 *horseface (~horseface@9ucczhkmm895g.irc) has joined #techrights
23:59 TR News; (NEW): Avidemux 2.8.1 is out with New Filters & HiDPI Improvements http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Avidemux_2_8_1_is_out_with_New_Filters_HiDPI_Improvements.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/29/Avidemux_2_8_1_is_out_with_New_Filters_HiDPI_Improvements.gmi
23:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Avidemux 2.8.1 is out with New Filters & HiDPI Improvements
23:59 TR News; The Geneva Declaration on Targeted Surveillance - Human Rights https://www.accessnow.org/geneva-declaration-on-targeted-surveillance-and-human-rights/ Source: AccessNow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/geneva-declaration-on-targeted-surveillance-and-human-rights/
23:59 TR Bot; The Geneva Declaration on Targeted Surveillance & Human Rights
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