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beginning of new day, September 28

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1 AM, September 28

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5 AM, September 28

05:21 schestowitz-TR; the patent troll now sounds more like bullshitting

05:21 schestowitz-TR; the long PDFs have turned into just emails asking for money

05:21 schestowitz-TR; I am ignoring of course

05:21 schestowitz-TR; yesterday due to irc I did not find any time to do articles, but my notes are still intact and maybe I'll get it done shortly

05:21 schestowitz-TR; without videos even

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6 AM, September 28

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06:32 Techrights-sec; ack

06:42 Techrights-sec; :)

06:44 schestowitz-TR; <schestowitz> >> Someone has asked me, will you give a talk on swpats or UPC at

06:44 schestowitz-TR; [06:38] <schestowitz> > > LibrePlanet?

06:44 schestowitz-TR; [06:38] <schestowitz> > I could.

06:44 schestowitz-TR; [06:38] <schestowitz> > I was preparing one for this saturday Software Freedom Day at HSBXL.be.

06:44 schestowitz-TR; talking about the issue openly would make the event not a "Safe space"

06:44 schestowitz-TR; we're talking about this in the IRC channel this morning

06:44 schestowitz-TR; FSF has been sanitised out of any revolutionary element

06:44 schestowitz-TR; because of a sixth sense for corporate acceptance

06:45 schestowitz-TR; or acceptance of corporate shills like those who signed the petiion

06:45 schestowitz-TR; last night "The Linux Experiment" published a video entitled Microsoft isn't the enemy

06:45 schestowitz-TR; or something to that effect

06:45 schestowitz-TR; RMS is the enemy

06:45 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is not

06:45 schestowitz-TR; -The Linux Experiment

06:46 Techrights-sec; CoCs are, as known, used to silence various topics unrelated to civil rights etc

06:46 Techrights-sec; What a tool, a dumbfuck.

06:46 Techrights-sec; How can a non-idiot become so detached from reality without being on the take?

06:46 Techrights-sec; Holy shit, it's right there in the title:

06:46 Techrights-sec; https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/microsoft-isn't-the-enemy-of-linux-and:3

↺ https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/microsoft-isn't-the-enemy-of-linux-and:3

06:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | MICROSOFT isn't the ENEMY of Linux and FOSS anymore, but it's no friend either...

06:46 Techrights-sec; What a tool || fool he is.

06:47 schestowitz-TR; one step away from calling people who oppose Microsoft "enemies"


7 AM, September 28

07:01 Techrights-sec; basically and he seems to soft-pedal the 1990s while glossing over the 1980s

07:01 Techrights-sec; He tries to spin the behaviors as past actions and not ongoing, continued

07:01 Techrights-sec; attacks against everyone and everything. At least he almost called them out

07:01 Techrights-sec; over OOXML but missed out a key point that *no one* not even m$ uses it.

07:01 Techrights-sec; And he bullshits on WSL, overstating its capabilities. The kernel

07:01 Techrights-sec; 'contributions' are mistaken for help rather than dumping crap m$-orient

07:01 Techrights-sec; code.

07:01 Techrights-sec; He observes, correctly, that m$ aims to control now via the "cloud"

07:01 Techrights-sec; He misses the core of the problem with GitHub

07:02 Techrights-sec; M$ Co-pilot, unlike his claim, is a copyright infringing service.

07:02 Techrights-sec; Definitely not his best video. He's off badly in each segment.

07:06 Techrights-sec; "secure-core"

07:06 Techrights-sec; the thicker part of the wedge, long after the thin edge

07:06 Techrights-sec; ^ topic

07:07 schestowitz-TR; draft

07:07 schestowitz-TR; does that refer to something in an article?

07:07 schestowitz-TR; secure core?

07:07 schestowitz-TR; back doors agencies like NSA misframe security"

07:07 schestowitz-TR; they hijack and change the words

07:07 schestowitz-TR; I could dop a video rebuttal to nick, maybe...

07:07 schestowitz-TR; unless playing him back (playback) does more harm than good

07:13 Techrights-sec; secure-core has hardly been covered at all; remember 20+ years ago when M$

07:13 Techrights-sec; tried to acquire Pheonix or AMI BIOS? I forget which. That was when theyu

07:13 Techrights-sec; laid out their strategy to *also* beging lock-in from the hardware on up.

07:13 Techrights-sec; Not just from the OS on down. I'm missing a few steps but secure-core appears

07:13 Techrights-sec; to be a certification programme where restricted boot is not just on by default

07:13 Techrights-sec; but on permanently in such a way as to prevent non-M$ systems from booting.

07:13 Techrights-sec; Anyway as for the draft, a reminder about the anti-RMS petition tied to the

07:13 Techrights-sec; unfounded smear campaign is needed. The campaign was based on baldfaced lies

07:13 Techrights-sec; which too many, out of apparent eagerness to lynch RMS or destroy FOSS,

07:13 Techrights-sec; did not examine.

07:13 Techrights-sec; Then a /proper/ rebuttal of nick's video is needed. The above draft was pushe

07:13 Techrights-sec; d out halfbaked. :/

07:13 Techrights-sec; The whole video does not necessarily have to be address, just pick apart

07:13 Techrights-sec; the recurring themes.

07:14 schestowitz-TR; i've already published that

07:14 schestowitz-TR; should I do a video later?

07:14 schestowitz-TR; i did not watch the video

07:14 schestowitz-TR; maybe better not to play it back at all and focus on the other topics (3) i have in drafts

07:14 schestowitz-TR; ok, i will move the irc notes to draft

07:14 schestowitz-TR; to respond to later

07:14 schestowitz-TR; i need to avoid irc today

07:14 schestowitz-TR; to get articles done

07:14 Techrights-sec; Thanks!

07:14 Techrights-sec; IRC is a time sink at best

07:16 schestowitz-TR; so i have 4 drafts, i will do a video for each, then work on text,

07:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe past midday

07:17 Techrights-sec; ack

07:41 Techrights-sec; revisit bandwidth and web page bloat

07:41 Techrights-sec; ^ topic

07:41 Techrights-sec; there are no small pages any more, nor much of any server-side activty,

07:41 Techrights-sec; despite some countries still requiring small pages as part of defence

07:41 Techrights-sec; readiness

07:41 Techrights-sec; That may be a key reason why m$ and its controlling interests have started

07:41 Techrights-sec; their nearly all-out campaign to disparage and eliminate SSH

07:41 Techrights-sec; Part of that can be subversion of the developent process, too

07:41 Techrights-sec; Afterall, m$ has been "helping" OpenSSH for a while ...

07:42 schestowitz-TR; If we get to the point of U-boat revisited, I think Techrights won't be the highest priority

07:42 schestowitz-TR; small pages can be sent over satellite

07:42 schestowitz-TR; unless they too get gunned down

07:42 schestowitz-TR; ssh access is low b/w

07:42 schestowitz-TR; but for visitors there are constrained

07:42 schestowitz-TR; ipfs is... becoming interesting

07:42 schestowitz-TR; the raison detre of the Internet

07:42 schestowitz-TR; during cold war

07:46 schestowitz-TR; --

07:46 schestowitz-TR; just finished shaving, but the battery of it is awful. it's a 1990s appliance with battery last replaced around 2009

07:46 schestowitz-TR; not much incentive to replace it anymore

07:46 schestowitz-TR; anyway, got 5 topics now

07:46 schestowitz-TR; will try to stick to plan

07:46 schestowitz-TR; lots of text and URLs I can reuse, so writing can be a very smooth process

07:46 schestowitz-TR; like I said, my workflow is all wrong

07:47 schestowitz-TR; due to priorities being impulsive

07:47 schestowitz-TR; momentum, not rationale

07:47 Techrights-sec; ack


8 AM, September 28

08:35 schestowitz-TR; our longest (time) client is a company that helps track and prevent damage to undersea cables

08:35 schestowitz-TR; but that's not worthy of a mention

08:35 schestowitz-TR; I have 5 topics now

08:35 schestowitz-TR; probably too much

08:35 schestowitz-TR; as I have a load of rss feeds and links to catch up with first

08:36 Techrights-sec; probably not good to mention

08:36 Techrights-sec; fwiw, theatre: https://internet.nl/site/news.tuxmachines.org/1719977/

↺ https://internet.nl/site/news.tuxmachines.org/1719977/

08:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-internet.nl | Website test: news.tuxmachines.org

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08:39 schestowitz-TR; "we ticked all the boxes in the ISO form and still got cracked" ;-)

08:49 Techrights-sec; among other things, it objects to the site vouching for its own TLS certificates

08:49 Techrights-sec; https://internet.nl/site/news.tuxmachines.org/1719977/#control-panel-21

↺ https://internet.nl/site/news.tuxmachines.org/1719977/#control-panel-21

08:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-internet.nl | Website test: news.tuxmachines.org


9 AM, September 28

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10 AM, September 28

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10:34 schestowitz-TR; to avoid pressure,/stress/borderline burnout i will assign priorities to topics

10:34 schestowitz-TR; and the lesser ones can wait till weekends when it is quiet

10:34 schestowitz-TR; like I said, the pipeline thing is still work in progress

10:34 schestowitz-TR; i just knoew we can publish more and better

10:34 schestowitz-TR; we're just done a run outside, it got very cold here, feels like November

10:38 schestowitz-TR; just checked a ssecond weather sourcce, the one I use over gemini, not curl

10:38 schestowitz-TR; it says it was 2 degrees last night

10:38 schestowitz-TR; super-cold for Sept.

10:54 schestowitz-TR; "summer of record-breaking heat waves sweeping the northern hemisphere from Europe to China to California" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/27/confront-climate-crisis-universities-must-refuse-fossil-fuel-industry-funding | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/27/confront-climate-crisis-universities-must-refuse-fossil-fuel-industry-funding

10:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | To Confront the Climate Crisis, Universities Must Refuse Fossil Fuel Industry Funding | Paul G. Nauert


11 AM, September 28

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11:33 Techrights-sec; ack

11:35 schestowitz-TR; safe to say that no matter where one lives, it's hard to find good news

11:35 schestowitz-TR; and uncertainty is growing over a whole range of issues

11:35 schestowitz-TR; after all, it's one planet, same 'league'

11:35 schestowitz-TR; we hear of people we know losing everything, falling into depression, or sinking into both

11:35 Techrights-sec; ack

11:35 schestowitz-TR; a lot of good journalism now gets demoted

11:35 schestowitz-TR; as it is seen as a "luxury" topic and not as urgent as several more pressing issues

11:35 schestowitz-TR; which I think worsens accountability

11:40 Techrights-sec; I would also guess that the diminishing of journalism is closely tied to

11:40 Techrights-sec; the ongoing media consolidation which was allowed to start in the 1980s

11:40 Techrights-sec; There's now not even a handful of companies which own more or less all

11:40 Techrights-sec; media in the US, for example. May regions there do not have coverage from

11:40 Techrights-sec; more than one company and many more don't even have a source which actually

11:40 Techrights-sec; reports on local news.

11:41 schestowitz-TR; (just a casual observation)

11:41 schestowitz-TR; apathy to news, based on immediate priorities

11:41 Techrights-sec; Not just apathy but those news deserts which were mentioned the other day.

11:41 schestowitz-TR; no news is good news(tm)

11:44 Techrights-sec; :/

11:47 schestowitz-TR; at least you know what I meant

11:47 schestowitz-TR; important things compete with

11:47 schestowitz-TR; a) immediate fear (war)

11:47 schestowitz-TR; b) clickbait

11:47 schestowitz-TR; c) screen time monopolists

11:47 schestowitz-TR; i think in the long run the important stories will be worth it

11:47 schestowitz-TR; because a b and c mean that nobody else covers them

11:47 schestowitz-TR; I'm almost done with links, can start recording sooner than expected

11:47 schestowitz-TR; the gbp sank

11:47 schestowitz-TR; but I don't think it affects rianne and I much

11:47 schestowitz-TR; for a number of reasons

11:47 schestowitz-TR; i know people whom this hurts very badly

11:49 schestowitz-TR; ---

11:49 schestowitz-TR; there are two parallel things that guage progress

11:49 schestowitz-TR; one is written, docuemneted material

11:49 schestowitz-TR; antoher is immaterial knowledge and narrative

11:49 schestowitz-TR; that can be leveraged letter to explain issues

11:49 schestowitz-TR; one is about material output

11:50 schestowitz-TR; another is potential per se

11:50 schestowitz-TR; i think on a number of topics we have the ability to cover properly

11:50 schestowitz-TR; and explain certain issues well

11:50 schestowitz-TR; glyn moody is still barely visible

11:50 schestowitz-TR; i think doctorow was very busy with a book lately

11:50 schestowitz-TR; books are a waste of time

11:50 schestowitz-TR; young people perceive them as non grata

11:50 schestowitz-TR; availability is another problem and it'll worsen over time

11:52 Techrights-sec; I wish Glyn maintained a feed or a list or something so that it would be

11:52 Techrights-sec; easier (i.e. possible) to find his current work. He is easily one of the

11:52 Techrights-sec; top two or three remaining tech writers.

11:52 Techrights-sec; Young people not only /don't/ read many actually, in practice, /can't/ read.

11:53 schestowitz-TR; done feeds from kate

11:53 schestowitz-TR; will let rianne do the first round in quiterss later

11:53 schestowitz-TR; posting daily links now

11:53 schestowitz-TR; so far on schedule, as planned

11:53 schestowitz-TR; even 7 mins ahead of schedule

11:59 *Techrights-sec2 is now known as ts2


noon, September 28

12:13 psydruid; my nieces read and even work in order to be able to buy books

12:13 psydruid; but it may be a cultural thing

12:13 psydruid; as in being too consumed by other media

12:14 schestowitz-TR; OTA shortly

12:14 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: books last long

12:14 schestowitz-TR; and if you liek the books, you can take them places

12:14 schestowitz-TR; or give to a friend

12:14 schestowitz-TR; not everything being "tech" is better

12:14 schestowitz-TR; books don't need backup and battery changes

12:15 psydruid; I have lots of books, mainly in boxes at the moment

12:16 psydruid; but I have the ones I am reading here

12:17 psydruid; tech books I mostly have in digital form these days because they are more ephemeral

12:18 schestowitz-TR; tech books lose value very fast

12:18 schestowitz-TR; because tech changes feast

12:18 schestowitz-TR; case of point: value of C++ book from 1995

12:18 schestowitz-TR; verrsus

12:18 schestowitz-TR; how to play guitar, 1995

12:21 psydruid; I only bought The C++ Programming Language Third Edition in 1998

12:21 schestowitz-TR; is it still worth a look?

12:21 psydruid; I have relatively few tech books

12:21 schestowitz-TR; online docs might be a lot more up to date

12:21 psydruid; no, it has been superseded by newer standards

12:22 psydruid; I've finished most of Stroustrup's newer book A Tour of C++ about C++17

12:23 psydruid; but yeah, you know where to get those

12:24 psydruid; keeping people on the treadmill is the name of the game

12:24 psydruid; so I jumped 20 years ahead by reading this book

12:25 psydruid; I don't know how people keep up with all the new stuff, as it's simply too much

12:26 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: i programmed a lot

12:26 schestowitz-TR; less in recent years

12:26 schestowitz-TR; but teens and 20s a lot

12:27 schestowitz-TR; and some of that published

12:27 schestowitz-TR; so I learned what code becomes useless shita

12:27 schestowitz-TR; *shit

12:27 schestowitz-TR; before I spent more time writing online and doing irc etc.

12:27 schestowitz-TR; bash seems to have a good shelf life

12:27 schestowitz-TR; gnu tools are good items to use

12:27 schestowitz-TR; python and php are not

12:28 psydruid; I generally don't write crappy code, so I manage to keep it updated over time

12:28 schestowitz-TR; even worse for larger frameworks

12:28 psydruid; yeah

12:28 schestowitz-TR; lego building with modules (perl, ruby etc.) is still risky

12:28 schestowitz-TR; because you then depend on each package in the chain

12:28 schestowitz-TR; for each distro you choose

12:28 schestowitz-TR; compiling from source can become hard

12:28 schestowitz-TR; like some new glib

12:29 schestowitz-TR; tbh,

12:29 schestowitz-TR; me being defeatist

12:29 schestowitz-TR; all code sucks

12:29 schestowitz-TR; and can be written with the assumption of being only temporarily useful

12:29 schestowitz-TR; watch xul

12:29 schestowitz-TR; and old android "apps"

12:29 schestowitz-TR; you cannot even run them anymore

12:29 schestowitz-TR; time wasdted

12:31 schestowitz-TR; your stack is yours

12:31 schestowitz-TR; but...

12:31 schestowitz-TR; the android users on the treadmill

12:31 schestowitz-TR; cannot run the binaries you run locally

12:31 schestowitz-TR; so even if you can compile the darn thing

12:31 schestowitz-TR; or make an apk

12:32 schestowitz-TR; they won't be able to "sideload" it

12:32 schestowitz-TR; so you are at the mercy of Gulag

12:32 schestowitz-TR; I don't touch any lang that Gulah controls even a little

12:32 schestowitz-TR; *Gulag

12:32 schestowitz-TR; even if it seems technically OK

12:39 schestowitz-TR; ghts-news> Is it time to boycott Ubuntu yet? https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu

↺ https://ubuntu.com//blog/microsoft-sql-server-on-ubuntu

12:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu

12:39 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- The benefits of running Microsoft SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro | Ubuntu

12:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> of does "boycott Microsoft" already cover Canonical too?

12:40 schestowitz-TR; Mark Shuttleworth (MS) is married with kids. The wife is Satya and the kids are equally evil.

12:40 psydruid; I consider Gulag a disturbing force in the free software world

12:41 psydruid; And avoid anything they come up with including Android

12:42 psydruid; I still don't know why we can't just install our own software on generic "phones" and "tablets"

12:43 psydruid; There should be legislation forcing manufacturers to free up these devices so support for them can be maintained for longer times

12:44 Techrights-sec; back

12:44 Techrights-sec; ack

12:44 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: they tried, but too little

12:45 schestowitz-TR; to slow things down and standardise

12:45 schestowitz-TR; far too little, too late

12:45 schestowitz-TR; EU at least

12:45 schestowitz-TR; OTA 5 in a row

12:45 Techrights-sec; ack

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2 PM, September 28

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14:22 schestowitz-TR; 5 videos done

14:22 schestowitz-TR; this was easier than last time

14:22 schestowitz-TR; because I learned some tricks

14:22 Techrights-sec; Great

14:22 schestowitz-TR; like giving files a filename after I'm done

14:22 schestowitz-TR; and also moving from one laptop to another to lower the load

14:22 schestowitz-TR; I'll have the first draft ready soon, it was processing while I recorded the 5th

14:22 schestowitz-TR; I mstopped nicks video at 4:30

14:22 schestowitz-TR; because it seemed like then he would start parroting Microsoft lies

14:29 Techrights-sec; BTW: https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/

↺ https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/

14:29 Techrights-sec; ISBN still unknown

14:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/ )

↺ https://walledculture.org/walled-culture-the-book-now-freely-available-what-that-means-and-how-you-can-help/

14:38 Techrights-sec; ISBN -> 978-946459495-9

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14:58 schestowitz-TR; draft

14:58 schestowitz-TR; our proxy has its own user level account on an SBC with not much sensitive on it

14:58 schestowitz-TR; ipfs, gemini..


3 PM, September 28

15:01 schestowitz-TR; trolls are time-consuming because it's hard tro refrain from resonding to uttered words you know to be false

15:01 schestowitz-TR; i'm still editing the draft a little, but you can preview and help spot typos

15:01 schestowitz-TR; no summary yet

15:07 psydruid; professional Microsoft trolls are a drain on society and the economy

15:10 schestowitz-TR; yeah

15:10 schestowitz-TR; and forums

15:10 schestowitz-TR; you can see context in another channelk

15:10 schestowitz-TR; adding summary now

15:10 schestowitz-TR; tradeoff between clarify and using limited timew wisely

15:10 schestowitz-TR; feel free to ignore me

15:10 schestowitz-TR; and to carry on doing other things

15:10 schestowitz-TR; if you are busy, i'll go ahead

15:10 Techrights-sec; checking

15:10 Techrights-sec; "here" should not be the hyperlink's anchor, the text in the anchor should

15:11 Techrights-sec; be "S.4913 Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022" or just "S.4913"

15:11 Techrights-sec; or just "Securing Open Source Software Act of 2022", something semantically

15:11 Techrights-sec; meaningful.

15:14 schestowitz-TR; thank you. finalising. then the ns1/net article.

15:29 Techrights-sec; np

15:29 Techrights-sec; likewise "says this page" should not be the anchor text, but instead

15:29 Techrights-sec; "The overwhelming majority of computers in the world rely on open source code freely available code that anyone can contribute to,"

15:30 schestowitz-TR; thanks, already pressed publish and moved n :/

15:30 schestowitz-TR; *on

15:30 schestowitz-TR; found many typos, too

15:31 schestowitz-TR; (typos don't bother me in irc, but it's a troll's best friend for ad hom, esp. if it's in the site

15:31 schestowitz-TR; and now an irc network (irc bot or me directly))

15:51 schestowitz-TR; third one in in drafts now

15:51 schestowitz-TR; i've strarted working on the second, which is longer and thus harder

15:51 schestowitz-TR; the 3rd one is short

15:51 schestowitz-TR; you can see the draft

15:51 schestowitz-TR; quotes you a bit


4 PM, September 28

16:07 Techrights-sec; ack

16:07 Techrights-sec; checking

16:07 Techrights-sec; best not to quote that, it was off the record private

16:41 Techrights-sec; For how many more product cycles will "secure boot" have the opion to be

16:41 Techrights-sec; turned off in UEFI and for how many more Vist release will Vista allow that

16:41 Techrights-sec; option to even exist?

16:41 schestowitz-TR; mjg59_: ^

16:41 schestowitz-TR; you vandal

16:42 schestowitz-TR; this will haunt you for years

16:42 schestowitz-TR; people who know better will remember who to blame

16:49 psydruid; I knew when I got my first system with UEFI it would also be my last one (within boundaries)

16:50 psydruid; so mjg59_'s life's work is all for nothing but a paycheck

16:50 psydruid; that he will take into his grave anyway

16:51 psydruid; that laptop from 6 years ago works just as well today as it did back then

16:52 psydruid; so his sabotage will have diminishing returns over time

16:54 schestowitz-TR; there should be antitrust actions

16:55 schestowitz-TR; there were some

16:55 schestowitz-TR; he undermined them

16:55 schestowitz-TR; for a Pentagon salary

16:55 schestowitz-TR; now he uses those salaries to run around and get peopple to deliver food to his door

16:55 schestowitz-TR; like slaves

16:56 psydruid; it's pity money

16:56 psydruid; I wouldn't want that blood money


5 PM, September 28

17:04 psydruid; the best thing to do is to freeze such people out

17:05 psydruid; maybe even to get their assets seized

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17:32 schestowitz-TR; draft

17:32 Techrights-sec; ack

17:32 Techrights-sec; quite good

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6 PM, September 28

18:01 schestowitz-TR; workking on 4 and 5 in tadem

18:01 schestowitz-TR; no drafts yet

18:01 schestowitz-TR; *tandem

18:01 schestowitz-TR; draft

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18:04 Techrights-sec; Corporate or corporations?

18:04 Techrights-sec; Maybe it would be good to avoid athropomorphizing them and instead point out

18:04 Techrights-sec; that they are a group of people?

18:04 Techrights-sec; The paragraph starting "and they didn't even .." probably ought to be joined

18:04 Techrights-sec; with some of the preceding sentences and the paragrah split above that join?

18:04 Techrights-sec; If at all.

18:04 Techrights-sec; The acronym DPA needs to be expanded. <abbr title="something"> at the least

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18:08 schestowitz-TR; thanks, doing a second (final) pass now

18:08 schestowitz-TR; then the response to nick's video

18:08 Techrights-sec; np

18:08 Techrights-sec; nick's video was disappointing but not as bad as it initially looked however

18:08 Techrights-sec; not good just disappointing

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18:27 Techrights-sec; It is clickbait but that does not stop him from expressing troubling statements

18:27 Techrights-sec; and glossing over problems. Like I said, it is very disappointing.

18:41 schestowitz-TR; I called it clickbait

18:41 schestowitz-TR; upon listening to it the first time

18:41 schestowitz-TR; the self-harming kind of clickbaiot

18:41 schestowitz-TR; like phoronix

18:41 schestowitz-TR; the story ends with a boy eaten by wolves by doing it too much

18:41 schestowitz-TR; i left aside uefi as a futurew [topic]

18:41 Techrights-sec; ack

18:48 schestowitz-TR; top comment: microsofter

18:48 schestowitz-TR; they are often there

18:48 schestowitz-TR; but this one even admits it

18:48 schestowitz-TR; draft

18:48 schestowitz-TR; the comment has a full generic name of a female

18:48 schestowitz-TR; so you know Microsoft PR has put that site under "observation" for perception management

18:48 schestowitz-TR; disagreeing is potential "sexism"

18:48 schestowitz-TR; that's why i stay well away from sh****les like reddit and hackernes

18:48 schestowitz-TR; don't want to srestle with pigs

18:49 schestowitz-TR; only the pigs GET PAID for it

18:52 schestowitz-TR; but then the pig gets paid some more

18:59 schestowitz-TR; d

18:59 schestowitz-TR; raft

18:59 Techrights-sec; checking

18:59 Techrights-sec; s/peraon/person/ ?

18:59 Techrights-sec; The animated GIF is on a loop :(

18:59 Techrights-sec; instead of just running once or twice

18:59 Techrights-sec; It has been a long time since FF lost the ability to stop those from cycling

18:59 Techrights-sec; endlessly.


7 PM, September 28

19:00 schestowitz-TR; i really ought to limit emes to just [meme]-labeled post

19:00 schestowitz-TR; thanks for pointing this out

19:00 schestowitz-TR; i will take a deserved break now...

19:00 schestowitz-TR; then catch up with rss

19:01 schestowitz-TR; rianne kept tm up to date with the other contribs

19:02 Techrights-sec; ok

19:02 Techrights-sec; nice

19:02 Techrights-sec; should tm have an rsync mirror in to topologically (networkwise) distinct

19:02 Techrights-sec; locations?

19:02 Techrights-sec; s/to/two/

19:02 schestowitz-TR; yes, definitely

19:02 schestowitz-TR; it also acts as data backup

19:02 schestowitz-TR; not just downtime resistance (can mess with dns)

19:03 Techrights-sec; Which machine can be the second host for that?

19:03 schestowitz-TR; will think about it after a nap ;-)

19:03 Techrights-sec; ack

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