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00:04 DaemonFC; Maybe it's just as well our attorney had to bail on us today.
00:05 DaemonFC; I found several mistakes I've made that I would've gone down there with but now have a week and a half to correct.
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00:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], I bumped my property damage coverage on my car insurance up to $50,000 some time ago.
00:25 DaemonFC; It's like another $4 a year vs. $25,000, and cars have gotten so expensive and so easy to total that $50,000 is what $25,000 was 5-6 years ago.
00:26 DaemonFC; You run into someone's back bumper these days and it's not $600 worth of damage. There's sensors and cameras and so much shit in there that you could do $12,000 of damage to the piece of shit with the same accident that did $600-700 damage 10-15 years ago.
00:26 schestowitz[TR3]; brb, DaemonFC
00:27 schestowitz[TR3]; just recorded 5 videos in a row
00:27 schestowitz[TR3]; whiloe you highligted me with off-topic stuff
00:28 DaemonFC; Ahh. Sorry. GEICO is not a "fun" place to work. Their employees (anonymously) report now that everyone is trying to keep their head down and make everyone else look bad to the boss.
00:29 schestowitz[TR3]; here is a good topic
00:29 schestowitz[TR3]; microsoft windows revenue fell
00:29 DaemonFC; Over 1,000 layoffs. The management is outsourcing their jobs to some claims company that they decided to get together with other insurers to use, for "efficiency".
00:29 schestowitz[TR3]; but then aggain, seeing vista 11 share, it makes sense
00:29 schestowitz[TR3]; and not many x86 slaes
00:29 DaemonFC; 19% drop in PC sales this year. 15% drop in Windows revenue.
00:30 DaemonFC; Odd. Maybe they're increasing the price of a Windows license trying to SQUEEZE the OEMs for their remaining sales.
00:30 DaemonFC; Beggar thy neighbor?
00:32 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR3]> and not many x86 slaes
00:33 DaemonFC; If they were smarter, they'd quit dumping all this money into expensive Windows on ARM laptops that they're just going to have to clearance and support for 10 years anyway.
00:34 DaemonFC; That wouldn't help on x86 revenue, but it would stem some bleeding. Nobody wants Windows on a new platform. If you're going to lose x86 compatibility anyway, why Windows?
00:34 DaemonFC; It'll be Windows RT all over again where they ended up having to do cumulative security updates for 10 years on a custom version of Windows 8 even though nobody bought them except maybe off a clearance rack.
00:35 DaemonFC; It's certainly not "free" to them to have people on salary backporting security updates to Windows 8, which itself wasn't even supported on x86 for some of that!
00:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], As Windows grows fatter and demands an expensive new PC, Wine gets better every couple weeks at supporting new and old Windows software.
00:40 DaemonFC; I don't know how Windows is even at 60% desktop right now. I may still be slightly above 60%.
00:42 starstreak; microsoft shot themselves in the foot by not supporting older hardware
00:42 MinceR; they sell most PCs with Backdoors preinstalled
00:42 MinceR; most users can't install any OS
00:42 MinceR; plus there's UEFI and Restricted Boot
00:42 MinceR; plus the new shit that tripped up the local UEFI priest
00:43 starstreak; when I was working at a computer store I was upgrading core2duo systems to an SSD and Windows 10
00:44 starstreak; everyone with a windows 7 or 8 license gets a free upgrade to 10
00:44 starstreak; can't install windows 11 on a core2duo
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.05
00:59 resistor; x86 is mostly closed and non-free; ao486 SoC on FPGA won't run linux
01:01 resistor; seems ESA (european space agency) transitions from SPARC Leon to RISC-V too
01:01 resistor; https://www.gaisler.com/noel-v
01:01 TR Bot; NOEL-V
01:02 resistor; "The NOEL-V is a synthesizable VHDL model of a processor that implements the RISC-V architecture. The processor is the first released model in our RISC-V ..."
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01:02 resistor; i remain sceptical about this, because on the software side nasty vendor-locks and violations of acceptance criteria remain with RISC-V
01:03 resistor; in the end, there isn't offerings for students and hobbiest hackers i could recommend
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01:04 resistor; and the idea, to work with IBM MICROS~1 Wintel Pentagon Computer to develop for any platform, no, i won't
01:04 resistor; because alot of software and development tooling is required
01:04 resistor; even when GNU/Linux is supported, there's too many problems over there too
01:05 resistor; i rather pick pencil and paper and any design i could study with my brain
01:05 resistor; modern computer systems are awful, the stinkiest excrement of satan made in USA
01:06 resistor; and the brits with their ARM aren't any different
01:10 resistor; i don't know, approaching any system which is closer to acceptance criteria, Z80 or a Gigatron TTL, what would i want with this?
01:10 resistor; no internet, no email, no irc, that's not practical for anything
01:11 resistor; and those systems too got strings attached, to things (Z80 sdcc compiler written in c++, Gigatron TTL Pluggy McPlugface with proprietary ATMel microcontroller)
01:11 resistor; often, peripherals are attached with Adafruit components, which are proprietary and closedsource too
01:11 resistor; no thanks
01:13 resistor; two years have passed, had not used a modern web-browser anymore... i don't miss anything
01:13 resistor; 20years have passed, didn't use a "smart phone" ever... i don't miss anything
01:13 resistor; and guess what, disconnecting internet, and i won't miss anything
01:14 resistor; i got that many books, the online experience isn't worth it anymore
01:15 resistor; i mean, the typical technology, this doesn't pass minimum acceptance criteria for private use at home at least
01:15 resistor; i am even less interested to see anything of this deployed into "critical infrastructure"
01:16 resistor; two weeks have passed, still waiting for german railway to respond to my letter
01:17 resistor; they reported two severe outages of their railway signalling in 6month, and don't bother consulting with me still
01:19 resistor; yes, it was two outages, and i suspect both may have been related to problems with X.25 transport
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01:21 resistor; german wikipedia says, german railway agency moved their old MAS90 x.25 network to a new one DBMAS (with tcp/ip involved)
01:22 resistor; nonetheless, x.25 is still there, nonetheless Telekom terminated x.25 support, although their headquarters are located close nearby in Bonn
01:22 resistor; it is important to keep record of all this, because i still got this contract with telekom headquarter, and had not received my salary for 17years
01:40 resistor; i still don't know, how x.25 was transported over distance by german railway and telekom
01:40 resistor; AX.25 is the amateur radio variant of this, with radio links and shared medium access
01:41 starstreak; resistor, i think you would be a prime candidate for anti psychotic medication
01:41 resistor; among railway, they used analog-radio for voice-call services, and abandoned this system in most areas, and too it's insufficient for compliance with ETCS
01:42 resistor; starstreak: i am drinking tea, assam and some green tea
01:42 resistor; anyway, the analog radio system in germany railway was still labeled Telefunken(!) (another defunct german company)
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01:43 resistor; however i couldn't find any information anywhere, if railway railway analog radio carried X.25
01:44 resistor; year 2010 railway reported they had migrated to GSM-R, although reporting about this seems inconclusive, including the fact some mention it's not completed yet
01:45 resistor; and too power plants, including nuclear ones, had to connect with data services
01:47 resistor; with their analog-radio system, german railway too implemented some frequency hopping already
01:49 resistor; i think this is how they are doing it nowadays: GSM-R/SONET, on top of this with GPRS extension (instead of circuit-switching) they carry TCP/IP and on top of this X.25
01:50 resistor; and then there is all sorts of other things: MPLS/OSPF/IS-IS or however else they administer the telko backbone nowadays
01:50 resistor; Telekom moved to "ALL-IP", hence MPLS and similar seems likely
01:51 resistor; GSM-R is 2G still, which chances are may rely upon older ITU-T protocols in backbone
01:51 resistor; whatever they did
01:53 resistor; with ALL-IP, that's important too, i consider some older implementatios of TCP/IP and routing protcols somewhat different to what was innovated with IPv6
01:53 resistor; i won't touch this
01:54 resistor; and in this realm, you always got both: the ITU-T protocol domain, and the DoD side (RFCs), encapsulated and tunneled with each other
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01:56 TR News; Political Bias is a Distraction From Googles Abuse of Power Over E-mail | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/google-email-domination/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/google-email-domination/
01:56 TR Bot; Political Bias is a Distraction From Googles Abuse of Power Over E-mail | Techrights
01:57 DaemonFC; CNN (Bill Gates) now says it's not _just_ gay and bisexual men getting MonkeyPox for the most part, it's nearly 70% blacks that are getting it.
01:57 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-news> "Ursula von der Leyen (President of the European commission) Her actions are currently criminally investigated" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k_7moAdX5Qw
01:57 TR Bot; Large European vaccine orders - Invidious
01:57 DaemonFC; I wonder how mjg59_ feels about the media bashing not just gay men, but blacks in particular.
01:58 schestowitz[TR3]; "It (EU) took measures to help compress the development timeline for vaccines from 10-15 years to 12-24 months.
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 118.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 107.86
02:01 resistor; in ITU-T X.25 realm, messaging services are specified by X.400 (nope, that's not email google could tamper with)
02:05 resistor; "X.400 has been extended for use in military applications (see MMHS) and aviation (see AMHS)", i see
02:05 TR News; Its Naive to Believe Foreign For-Profit Corporations Will Guard Democracy Online | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/social-media-vs-democracy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/social-media-vs-democracy/
02:05 TR Bot; Its Naive to Believe Foreign For-Profit Corporations Will Guard Democracy Online | Techrights
02:05 resistor; that's even NATO standard
02:07 resistor; and it is confusing too
02:07 resistor; because, NATO/DoD are the ones involved with RFCs and IEEE standards (let's say internet)
02:08 resistor; and ITU-T/ETSI (Paris, France) etc. are the Telekom ones
02:09 resistor; my sympathies with ITU-T/ETSI are limited, because of their obsession with MICROS~1 word and powerpoint
02:09 resistor; i mean, RFCs, are, still, written in ASCII text
02:09 resistor; obviously they're not as braindead stupid in DoD as the ones among ITU-T and their MICROS~1 sponsors
02:10 resistor; i don't know, x.400 is just an example, of NATO picking up ITU-T standards instead of DoD ones
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02:12 DaemonFC; "New research published Wednesday in the CDCs Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report examined clinical case data for 57 patients hospitalized with monkeypox complications and found that 82% had an HIV infection."
02:12 DaemonFC; Most people trawling gay hookup apps will eventually get something. So it makes sense that a lot of them getting Monkeypox already have HIV.
02:13 DaemonFC; "Monkeypox and HIV have collided with tragic effects, said CDC Monkeypox Incident Commander Dr. Jonathan Mermin in a news release from the agency. Todays report reminds all of us that access to monkeypox and HIV prevention and treatment mattersfor peoples lives and for public health. In the report, 95% of the patients were male and most (68%) were Black."
02:13 DaemonFC; If they wore a condom, 98% of them wouldn't have had HIV in the first place.
02:14 DaemonFC; HIV medication (which ruins your bones and internal organs) is so profitable that they market it to hoebags who won't wear a condom and figure it's not a matter of if, but rather, when.
02:14 TR News; The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/
02:14 TR Bot; The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights
02:15 DaemonFC; Condoms are <$1 and you don't wreck your kidneys, liver, and bones with them.
02:15 DaemonFC; Too easy. I know!
02:15 DaemonFC; Pay Uncle Bill for patent licenses.
02:16 DaemonFC; Eat some Beyond Steak on the way home. Now with 100% less guy who bites people on the nose.
02:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], Every company Gates "invests" in has people like this or worse at some point down the line.
02:16 DaemonFC; Rapists, stranglers, people who bite some guy on the nose at a football game.
02:17 DaemonFC; Just weird fucking people, criminals, creeps, perverts.
02:17 DaemonFC; mjg59_, Do you plan to stay on at Aurora if and when Microosft buys it so you can work at the same company (officially) as these fine folks?
02:18 DaemonFC; Or do you think hanging out at the pedo and groomer stomping ground called Reddit with your SJW flair is enough?
02:18 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR3]> <techrights-news> "Ursula von der Leyen (President of the European commission) Her actions are currently criminally investigated" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k_7moAdX5Qw
02:18 TR Bot; Large European vaccine orders - Invidious
02:18 DaemonFC; von der Slaven?
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02:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], I remember you calling her Ursula von der Slaven.
02:21 DaemonFC; Is there a reason for this particular name?
02:23 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/10/26/herschel-walker-denies-new-abortion-claims/
02:23 TR Bot; Herschel Walker Denies New Abortion Claims
02:24 DaemonFC; That's what he said the last time before he suddenly remembered writing a check for exactly what the abortion would cost and then "couldn't remember what I wrote it for".
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02:38 TR News; Pushing Back Against Software Patents and More | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/papers-swpats-apple-and-upc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/papers-swpats-apple-and-upc/
02:38 TR Bot; Pushing Back Against Software Patents and More | Techrights
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-261022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-261022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-261022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-261022.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022
02:43 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-261022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-261022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-261022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-261022.txt
02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022
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02:44 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 26, 2022
02:47 TR News; Dusting out the box gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1156
02:47 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-26.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-26.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:53 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
02:53 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 130.65
03:03 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 158756 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43182 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 months 22 days ago
03:04 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 9.2 GB TotalOut: 2.1 GB
03:05 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
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03:06 TR News; Lots of Money Wasted on Overpriced Products That Do Not Curb COVID-19s Spread as Advertised https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/cristian-terhes-eppo/
03:06 TR Bot; Blog Archive Lots of Money Wasted on Overpriced Products That Do Not Curb COVID-19s Spread as Advertised
03:08 TR News; "We are currently reviewing the distros on the strict list, verifying they are still actively being developed, whether they still meet our strict criteria and anything that has changed since they were first admitted to the list." https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/10/26/361/
03:08 TR Bot; Status and brief review | systemd-free linux community
03:09 TR News; "Tweets" are sources? https://itwire.com/market/elon-musk-twitter-bid-likely-to-go-through-by-weekend.html
03:09 TR Bot; - Elon Musk Twitter bid likely to go through by weekend
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03:10 TR News; iTWire - Briton indicted in US for allegedly running dark web trading site https://itwire.com/security/briton-indicted-in-us-for-running-dark-web-trading-site.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/briton-indicted-in-us-for-running-dark-web-trading-site.html
03:11 TR Bot; - Briton indicted in US for allegedly running dark web trading site
03:12 TR News; Atom has been abandoned by Microsoft, it's bloated junk, and there's no good reason to help GNU/Linux install it at this stage (it's abandonware) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cNz3ll_qBAk
03:12 TR Bot; How to install Atom text editor on Linux Mint 21 - Invidious
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03:13 TR News; iTWire - Phishing has been around long enough for Westpac to know https://itwire.com/open-sauce/phishing-has-been-around-long-enough-for-westpac-to-know.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/phishing-has-been-around-long-enough-for-westpac-to-know.html
03:14 TR Bot; - Phishing has been around long enough for Westpac to know
03:14 TR News; Control six separate RGB LED strips with a single Arduino Nano | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/27/control-six-separate-rgb-led-strips-with-a-single-arduino-nano/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/27/control-six-separate-rgb-led-strips-with-a-single-arduino-nano/
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03:14 TR Bot; Control six separate RGB LED strips with a single Arduino Nano | Arduino Blog
03:15 TR News; They're not "best". Being "smart" means they're worst in many aspects. https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-android-flip-phones/
03:15 TR Bot; 6 of the Best Smart Flip Phones You Can Buy Right Now - Make Tech Easier
03:16 TR News; "In this segment, we are going to discuss linux security and using the Rust programming language with an Offensive MindSet, and our guest Charles Shirer!" https://www.scmagazine.com/podcast-segment/linux-rust-retro-charles-shirer-psw-761
03:16 TR Bot; Linux Rust & Retro Charles Shirer PSW #761 | SC Media
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03:28 TR News; Dont Outsource Schools and Universities to Pentagon-Subsidised Agents of Oppression | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/
03:28 TR Bot; Dont Outsource Schools and Universities to Pentagon-Subsidised Agents of Oppression | Techrights
03:29 TR News; Exteme mazes, Brevard NC edition gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/26.1
03:30 TR News; Cat9 And LASH Want To Change Your Linux Command Line | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/cat9-and-lash-want-to-change-your-linux-command-line/
03:30 TR Bot; And LASH Want To Change Your Linux Command Line | Hackaday
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04:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2], Google just bumped Seamonkey Mail off and said insecure because I was using a Firefox 105 user agent.
04:01 DaemonFC; It seems the "better" hack is to give it the current Thunderbird UA because it does not accept Firefox 102 as "secure" even though it's a ESR branch.
04:16 resistor; well, such type of software is insecure, all of it
04:18 resistor; watching a documentary about china meanwhile, with their social scoring system, and teenagers made happy with video games
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:26 DaemonFC; https://i.redd.it/98cyrdg198w91.jpg
04:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], So your new Prime Minister is the Restaurant Scheme guy who spent over a billion GBP stolen from taxpayers who haven't even been born yet subsidizing restaurant meals for a month, increasing COVID cases by 17%.
04:29 DaemonFC; Have fun with that, I guess.
04:57 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJj43ed7So
04:57 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=tyJj43ed7So
04:57 TR Bot; y.com.sb | UFO EXPERT DR. GREER REVEALS FIRST EVER PHOTO OF AN ALIEN - IMPAULSIVE EP. 107 - Invidious
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 41.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 174.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 108.90
05:03 DaemonFC; starstreak, Welp, the left has a potentially big problem on their hands in Illinois.
05:03 DaemonFC; Pritzker has pissed so many people off that only about half the number of people in Chicago have early voted vs. this time in 2018.
05:03 DaemonFC; Even though turnout is surging downstate.
05:04 DaemonFC; I voted for Bailey and he may actually pull this off.
05:05 DaemonFC; If the trend in Chicago holds through Election Day, then the only county that Pritzker was expected to do overwhelmingly well in (and largest in the state) is not as much of a factor.
05:06 DaemonFC; It's possible they could all show up last minute or something, but it's interesting that they're not running down to the polls. Pritzker has been as uninspiring as most Democrats have been.
05:06 DaemonFC; He's raised our taxes. He's ruined the state's economy. He put millions of people out of work, about 200,000 of them haven't found a job since he did it to them.
05:06 DaemonFC; And now all they want to talk about is abortion.
05:07 DaemonFC; Which is not enough to motivate people for him, but IS enough to wake up Republican voters.
05:08 DaemonFC; The most likely people to be put out of work under Pritzker's "emergency" were poor working class black and latino service workers.
05:08 starstreak; nobody cares
05:08 starstreak; you're insane
05:08 DaemonFC; So I think it's obvious why his support, the enthusiasm, in Chicago, is just gone.
05:08 scientes; DaemonFC, tax revenue is irrelevent in the US
05:08 DaemonFC; At the state level it's not.
05:09 scientes; almost
05:09 DaemonFC; They can't print more money. They have to borrow or tax. Illinois has taxed us to fucking death already and it still borrows at interest rates that would make the Russians blush.
05:09 DaemonFC; This is all the fault of the Democrats.
05:10 scientes; DaemonFC, what is the interest rate on toilet paper?
05:10 DaemonFC; They've had unbroken unilateral control of the state government for almost 20 years now with the exception of 4 years of Rauner where Mike Madigan started overriding all of his vetoes anyway, including giving us a permanent 28% income tax hike.
05:11 DaemonFC; I think that people have finally had enough, maybe.
05:11 DaemonFC; The misery has just gotten to the point where they don't have the luxury of keeping this guy around anymore.
05:11 DaemonFC; I sure don't.
05:11 DaemonFC; I voted for Pritzker and now I'm voting for Bailey.
05:12 DaemonFC; He won't be a powerful governor because the legislature is gerrymandered.
05:12 DaemonFC; But maybe he can slow down theis tax and spend criminal-loving Democrat filth.
05:12 DaemonFC; *this
05:14 DaemonFC; <scientes> DaemonFC, what is the interest rate on toilet paper?
05:14 DaemonFC; I'm not sure that I follow.
05:15 DaemonFC; The only nice thing about the SAFE-T Act is if I ever get pulled over for a traffic infraction again I can comfortably refuse to sign the ticket and the cop has absolutely no discretion to arrest. It's a non-detainable offense unless you commit at least a Class A Misdemeanor.
05:16 DaemonFC; I asked the cop what he planned to do if I refused to sign the traffic ticket. Like, was he going to arrest me.
05:16 DaemonFC; When he said, "No, I'm not going to arrest you. I'll just write refused and hand you a copy and you can be on your way." I refused to sign it.
05:17 DaemonFC; It turned out the judge couldn't do much of anything because the idiots that ran into me leading to the cops framing me for running a red light failed to appear and the cops didn't see anything happen, so that diqualified them as witnesses.
05:17 DaemonFC; So the state had to drop the charges.
05:17 DaemonFC; I told the judge and the prosecutor to have a nice day.
05:18 DaemonFC; Most lawyers advise you to just sign the ticket because the cops have the theoretical ability to arrest you and ruin your day if they feel like punishing you for being a smartass.
05:18 DaemonFC; But the SAFE-T Act takes that away from them.
05:19 DaemonFC; So I mean, like, you don't _have_ to sign the ticket just to avoid arrest unless it's a Class A Misdemeanor. If it's an A Misdmeanor and they offer to give you a summons if you sign to promise to appear, I'd suggest doing that. Obviously read it, but....
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05:20 DaemonFC; But A Misdemeanor is usually where they arrest and book you automagically.
05:20 DaemonFC; It rises to the seriousness where, they want to take you down there and sweat you a bit and see if they can get you to say something stupid that hurts you later.
05:21 DaemonFC; They still want to do that for B and C, usually, maybe not a C, but usually (depends on how busy they are). The SAFE-T Act just lets you take the summons and leave. Do it.
05:21 DaemonFC; And talk to nobody except your lawyer.
05:22 DaemonFC; I'm sure that we'll see plenty of people in Cook and Lake county that are dumb enough to fuck this up.
05:22 DaemonFC; Like punch the cop instead of take the summons, then it's a felony. :)
05:23 DaemonFC; Most people who get pinched for a misdemeanor are not smart enough to take the ticket, say nothing, and leave.
05:42 DaemonFC; "I saw a guy with a Ford Super Duty try to park it at an Indiana Walmart once when I lived there. After bashing it into the lamp post three times and doing an extreme amount of damage, he was still sitting there crying about it when I came out of the store 30 minutes later."
05:42 DaemonFC; Me on Reddit.
05:42 DaemonFC; The funne part was the guy wasn't even in reverse.
05:43 DaemonFC; He was pulling in forward, hit the post, backed up, sat there for a moment, and then pulled in again and sideswiped the car, also bashing out the rear driver-side window.
05:52 DaemonFC; "Sertraline was invented and developed by scientists at Pfizer and approved for medical use in the United States in 1991. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines.[15] It is available as a generic medication.[9] In 2016, sertraline was the most commonly prescribed psychiatric medication in the United States[16] and in 2020, it was the twelfth most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with over 38
05:52 DaemonFC; million prescriptions."
05:52 DaemonFC; 38 million Americans on Zoloft and that's just Zoloft.
05:52 DaemonFC; Someone's not happy.
05:53 DaemonFC; "67% of men on sertraline experienced ejaculation difficulties versus 18% before the treatment."
05:54 DaemonFC; "The FDA requires all antidepressants, including sertraline, to carry a boxed warning stating that antidepressants increase the risk of suicide in persons younger than 25 years. This warning is based on statistical analyses conducted by two independent groups of FDA experts that found a 100% increase of suicidal thoughts and behavior in children and adolescents, and a 50% increase in the 1824 age group."
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06:28 phanes; any medication for depression is going to have those kinds of impacts because we don't understand the human brain very well. we know the chemicals and how some of them interact but don't have a holistic vision of it that's consistent between people. this is why you have to adapt and work through it. there's no magic intervention of the mind.
06:29 phanes; even if there were it would just become a crutch
06:29 DaemonFC; https://finance.yahoo.com/chart/META#eyJpbnRlcnZhbCI6IndlZWsiLCJwZXJpb2RpY2l0eSI6MSwidGltZVVuaXQiOm51bGwsImNhbmRsZVdpZHRoIjo1Ljg2MjA2ODk2NTUxNzI0MSwiZmxpcHBlZCI6ZmFsc2UsInZvbHVtZVVuZGVybGF5Ijp0cnVlLCJhZGoiOnRydWUsImNyb3NzaGFpciI6dHJ1ZSwiY2hhcnRUeXBlIjoibGluZSIsImV4dGVuZGVkIjpmYWxzZSwibWFya2V0U2Vzc2lvbnMiOnt9LCJhZ2dyZWdhdGlvblR5cGUiOiJvaGxjIiwiY2hhcnRTY2FsZSI6ImxpbmVhciIsInN0dWRpZXMiOnsi4oCMdm9sIHVuZHLigIwiOnsidHlwZSI6InZvbCB1bmRyIiwiaW5wdXRzIjp7
06:29 DaemonFC; ImlkIjoi4oCMdm9sIHVuZHLigIwiLCJkaXNwbGF5Ijoi4oCMdm9sIHVuZHLigIwifSwib3V0cHV0cyI6eyJVcCBWb2x1bWUiOiIjMDBiMDYxIiwiRG93biBWb2x1bWUiOiIjZmYzMzNhIn0sInBhbmVsIjoiY2hhcnQiLCJwYXJhbWV0ZXJzIjp7IndpZHRoRmFjdG9yIjowLjQ1LCJjaGFydE5hbWUiOiJjaGFydCJ9fX0sInBhbmVscyI6eyJjaGFydCI6eyJwZXJjZW50IjoxLCJkaXNwbGF5IjoiTUVUQSIsImNoYXJ0TmFtZSI6ImNoYXJ0IiwiaW5kZXgiOjAsInlBeGlzIjp7Im5hbWUiOiJjaGFydCIsInBvc2l0aW9uIjpudWxsfSwieWF4aXNMSFMiOltdLCJ5YXhpc1JIUyI6WyJjaGFydCIsIuKAj
06:29 DaemonFC; HZvbCB1bmRy4oCMIl19fSwic2V0U3BhbiI6eyJtdWx0aXBsaWVyIjo1LCJiYXNlIjoieWVhciIsInBlcmlvZGljaXR5Ijp7InBlcmlvZCI6MSwiaW50ZXJ2YWwiOiJ3ZWVrIn19LCJsaW5lV2lkdGgiOjIsInN0cmlwZWRCYWNrZ3JvdW5kIjp0cnVlLCJldmVudHMiOnRydWUsImNvbG9yIjoiIzAwODFmMiIsInN0cmlwZWRCYWNrZ3JvdWQiOnRydWUsImV2ZW50TWFwIjp7ImNvcnBvcmF0ZSI6eyJkaXZzIjp0cnVlLCJzcGxpdHMiOnRydWV9LCJzaWdEZXYiOnt9fSwiY3VzdG9tUmFuZ2UiOm51bGwsInN5bWJvbHMiOlt7InN5bWJvbCI6Ik1FVEEiLCJzeW1ib2xPYmplY3QiOnsic3ltYm9sIjoiTU
06:29 TR Bot; META Interactive Stock Chart | Meta Platforms, Inc. Stock - Yahoo Finance
06:29 DaemonFC; VUQSIsInF1b3RlVHlwZSI6IkVRVUlUWSIsImV4Y2hhbmdlVGltZVpvbmUiOiJBbWVyaWNhL05ld19Zb3JrIn0sInBlcmlvZGljaXR5IjoxLCJpbnRlcnZhbCI6IndlZWsiLCJ0aW1lVW5pdCI6bnVsbCwic2V0U3BhbiI6eyJtdWx0aXBsaWVyIjo1LCJiYXNlIjoieWVhciIsInBlcmlvZGljaXR5Ijp7InBlcmlvZCI6MSwiaW50ZXJ2YWwiOiJ3ZWVrIn19fV19
06:29 DaemonFC; Oh shit.
06:29 DaemonFC; Oops.
06:29 DaemonFC; Uh, anyway.
06:29 DaemonFC; Facebook fell to $104 a share after hours.
06:30 DaemonFC; Down from like $378 at their height in September last year.
06:30 DaemonFC; And that's with everything out there costing like 30% more this year. The rent, the food, you know.
06:30 DaemonFC; They lie about inflation.
06:31 phanes; yeah zuccy is on his way out. he was always a one trick pony and it wasn't even his pony.
06:31 DaemonFC; Biden's having a special on eggs and butter.
06:32 DaemonFC; You pay for three dozen eggs, they only give you a dozen. You pay for two pounds of butter, you only get one. :)
06:33 phanes; he's got a point
06:33 phanes; if this all collapses, the amish won't even notice
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07:34 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, October 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:34 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:34 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:34 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:39 TR News; "Its time to get me up to speed with modern CSS. Theres so much new in CSS that I know too little about." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day23/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
07:39 TR Bot; Day 23: the lab() color function - Manuel Matuzovi
07:40 TR News; "I don't get much spam email in general and I get even less that has malware payloads" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/PhishViaFiletypeConfusion | Source: uni Toronto
07:40 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/PhishViaFiletypeConfusion
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07:40 TR News; "flaws of distro hopping" https://unixsheikh.com/articles/my-choice-of-operating-system.html | Source: Unix Sheikh
07:40 TR Bot; My choice of operating system
07:41 TR News; "This is my report from the Netfilter Workshop 2022." https://ral-arturo.org/2022/10/25/nfws2022.html |
07:41 TR Bot; Netfilter Workshop 2022 summary
07:42 TR News; "Zig Is Self-Hosted Now" https://kristoff.it/blog/zig-self-hosted-now-what/ "Lets take a look at whats next for the Zig project." | Source: Loris Cro
07:42 TR Bot; Zig Is Self-Hosted Now, What's Next? | Loris Cro's Blog
07:43 TR News; "The technology, which alleviates red-green CVD for about four out of five users with the condition" https://hyperallergic.com/771685/dallas-art-museum-color-blind-visitors-enchroma/ | Source: HyperAllergic
07:43 TR Bot; A Better Museum Experience for Color-Blind Visitors
07:46 TR News; "These "heavy tweeters" account for less than 10% of monthly overall users but generate 90% of all tweets" https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-where-did-tweeters-go-twitter-is-losing-its-most-active-users-internal-2022-10-25/ | Source: Reuters
07:46 TR Bot; Twitter is losing its most active users, internal documents show | Reuters
07:47 TR News; "Heavy tweeters have been in "absolute decline" since the pandemic began, a Twitter researcher wrote in an internal document titled Where did the Tweeters Go?" https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-where-did-tweeters-go-twitter-is-losing-its-most-active-users-internal-2022-10-25/
07:50 TR News; "there is no surety over whether the training data comes as fair use under copyright law" https://analyticsindiamag.com/github-copilot-the-latest-in-the-list-of-ai-generative-models-facing-copyright-allegations/ | Source: AIM
07:50 TR Bot; GitHub Copilot: The Latest in the List of AI Generative Models Facing Copyright Allegations
07:50 TR News; "If I price an ebook at $9.99, I make about $7 at any distributor." https://mwl.io/archives/12806 | Source: MWL
07:50 TR Bot; My Inevitable(?) Amazon Tech Ebook Exit Michael W Lucas
07:52 TR News; assange https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/25/cia-sued-for-spying-on-americans-who-visited-julian-assange/
07:52 TR Bot; CIA Sued for Spying on Americans Who Visited Julian Assange neritam
07:54 TR News; Twitter dying faster than anyone imagined https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11354081/Twitter-losing-active-users-internal-documents-show.html
07:54 TR Bot; Is Twitter dying? Heavy tweeters account for just 10% of its users | Daily Mail Online
07:55 TR News; "Dokuwiki is an open-source wiki software written in PHP, and it doesnt require a database. It was developed by Andreas Gohr in 2004." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-dokuwiki-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
07:55 TR Bot; to Install Dokuwiki on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
07:56 TR News; "This tutorial will help you install Ubuntu 22.10 operating system into your computer explained with pictures step by step." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/how-to-install-ubuntu-2210-with-dualboot-uefi-and-external-disk-methods.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
07:56 TR Bot; How To Install Ubuntu 22.10 with Dualboot UEFI and External Disk Methods
07:58 TR News; After Install Guide for Ubuntu 22.10 with Apps and Games Recommendations https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/after-install-guide-for-ubuntu-2210-with-apps-and-games-recommendations.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
07:58 TR Bot; After Install Guide for Ubuntu 22.10 with Apps and Games Recommendations
07:58 TR News; "Want to play Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves on Linux desktop? It works out of the box on Steam Deck, but on Linux desktop it needed some launch options" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/ge-proton-7-38-is-out-now-fixing-up-uncharted-legacy-of-thieves/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:58 TR Bot; 7-38 is out now fixing up Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves | GamingOnLinux
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08:01 TR News; "Just short of two months after hitting 5,000" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-hits-over-6000-games-marked-verified-or-playable/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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08:01 TR Bot; Deck hits over 6,000 games marked Verified or Playable | GamingOnLinux
08:01 TR News; Yuppie Psycho: Executive Edition https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/yuppie-psycho-executive-edition-upgraded-with-full-linux-steam-deck-compatibility/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:01 TR Bot; Psycho: Executive Edition upgraded with full Linux / Steam Deck compatibility | GamingOnLinux
08:02 TR News; "EA has begun the process of swapping from Origin to the EA app on Steam" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/ea-begins-swapping-out-origin-for-ea-app-on-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:02 TR Bot; begins swapping out Origin for EA app on Steam | GamingOnLinux
08:03 TR News; The Witcher Remake https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/cd-projekt-red-announce-the-witcher-remake-in-unreal-engine-5/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:03 TR Bot; PROJEKT RED announce The Witcher Remake in Unreal Engine 5 | GamingOnLinux
08:05 TR News; "Fswatch is a free, open source multi-platform file change monitor utility" https://ostechnix.com/monitor-file-changes-using-fswatch-linux/ | Source: OSTechNix
08:05 TR Bot; To Monitor File Changes Using fswatch In Linux - OSTechNix
08:05 TR News; Mozilla is a posturing company https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/product-manager-career-firefox-relay/ | Source: Mozilla
08:05 TR Bot; A Mozilla product manager on his career path and what creating safe spaces online means to him
08:05 TR News; "helpful to be aware of a few cybersecurity tips for Linux users so that you can improve your protection" https://www.unixmen.com/how-linux-users-can-protect-their-business/ | Source: Unix Men
08:05 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.unixmen.com/how-linux-users-can-protect-their-business/ )
08:06 TR News; "Volkswagen Group has now formally pledged funding towards Blender" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/volkswagen-begins-funding-blender-development/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR Bot; begins funding Blender development | GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR News; "JSAUX were getting close to release another (yes, another) Steam Deck Docking Station" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/jsaux-cancels-current-steam-deck-dock-with-rgb-after-competitor-pinched-it/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR Bot; cancels current Steam Deck Dock with RGB, after competitor pinched it | GamingOnLinux
08:08 TR News; "I am curious about the tech savvy patrons of The Midnight (which is likely many of us, though no trouble if one is not) about how they got into (web) development, computers, in general?" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1157
08:11 TR News; Physical Mail https://truthout.org/articles/physical-mail-was-my-lifeline-to-the-outside-world-and-now-its-gone/ | Source: TruthOut
↺ https://truthout.org/articles/physical-mail-was-my-lifeline-to-the-outside-world-and-now-its-gone/
08:11 TR Bot; Physical Mail Was My Lifeline to the Outside World and Now Its Gone
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08:19 matteobin; Good morning!
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:22 TR News; Homestead https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/rebuilding-the-homstead/ | Source: The Nation
08:22 TR Bot; How Black Landowners in the South Are Recovering Lost Generational Wealth
08:23 TR News; "Health is the most important aspect of your life!" gemini://snonux.land/gemfeed/2022-10-27-if-health-isnt-there.gmi
08:26 TR News; sanders https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-slams-republicans-plans-to-cut-social-security-and-medicare-in-op-ed/ | Source: TruthOut
08:26 TR Bot; Sanders Slams Republicans Plans to Cut Social Security and Medicare in Op-Ed
08:27 schestowitz[TR3]; matteobin: 0/
08:29 TR News; (NEW): Games: Witcher, Blender, and Much More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Games_Witcher_Blender_and_Much_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Games_Witcher_Blender_and_Much_More.gmi
08:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Witcher, Blender, and Much More
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08:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.gmi
08:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
08:31 TR News; "It is no secret that to be a true Linux power user you have to deal with the command line." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/cat9-and-lash-want-to-change-your-linux-command-line/ | Source: Hackaday
08:31 TR Bot; And LASH Want To Change Your Linux Command Line | Hackaday
08:34 TR News; Cyberpunk https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/skull-lamp-illuminates-the-cyberpunk-future/ | Source: Hackaday
08:34 TR Bot; Lamp Illuminates The Cyberpunk Future | Hackaday
08:35 TR News; Digital Hourglass https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/digital-hourglass-counts-down-the-seconds/ | Source: Hackaday
08:35 TR Bot; Hourglass Counts Down The Seconds | Hackaday
08:37 TR News; Cisco https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/flashing-booby-trapped-cisco-ap-with-openwrt-the-hard-way/ ">Certain manufacturers seriously dislike open-source firmware for their devices"
08:37 TR Bot; Booby-Trapped Cisco AP With OpenWRT, The Hard Way | Hackaday
08:39 scientes; > if not for the Ciscos malicious decision to permanently brick the CPU as soon as you enter Uboot through the serial port
08:39 scientes; geeze
08:39 scientes; is that MIT's decision
08:39 scientes; (that is where Meraki comes from)
08:43 TR News; "This is an emergency release resolving an issue with Tor Browser 11.5.5's integration of the Snowflake pluggable transport." https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1156/ | Source: Tor
08:43 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.5.6 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
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08:44 TR News; public domain https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/unfortunately-paying-for-the-public-domain-already-exists-in-many-countries/ | Source: Techdirt
08:44 TR Bot; Paying For The Public Domain Already Exists In Many Countries | Techdirt
08:44 TR News; "The operator of several "AI" powered music mixer and extractor sites has responded to the RIAA's copyright infringement allegations." https://torrentfreak.com/ai-powered-music-mixer-responds-to-riaas-copyright-infringement-claims-221026/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:44 TR Bot; Music Mixer Responds to RIAA Copyright Infringement Claims * TorrentFreak
08:45 TR News; "Amid claims that live sports piracy in France was recently cut in half" https://torrentfreak.com/france-15-of-blocked-live-sports-pirates-go-legal-46-pirate-elsewhere-221026/ | Source: Torrent Freak
08:45 TR Bot; 15% of Blocked Live Sports Pirates Go Legal, 46% Pirate Elsewhere * TorrentFreak
08:46 TR News; "Election Denial" is what Bill Gates-bribed Pro Publica collectively calls rejection of back-doored Windows voting machines https://www.propublica.org/article/uline-uihlein-election-denial
08:46 TR Bot; How the Uline Box Empire Has Fueled Election Denial ProPublica
08:48 TR News; encryption https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/signal-says-it-will-exit-india-rather-than-compromise-its-encryption/ | Source: Techdirt
08:48 TR Bot; Says It Will Exit India Rather Than Compromise Its Encryption | Techdirt
08:49 TR News; brazil https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/brazils-governments-amps-up-anti-free-speech-tactics-ahead-of-national-election/ | Source: Techdirt
08:49 TR Bot; Governments Amps Up Anti-Free Speech Tactics Ahead Of National Election | Techdirt
08:50 TR News; "kinetic cyclic scissors sculpture out of 3D printed bars" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/26/kinetic-cyclic-scissors/ | Source: Hackaday
08:50 TR Bot; Cyclic Scissors | Hackaday
08:51 TR News; Comcast https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/comcast-forces-users-to-buy-comcast-hardware-if-they-want-faster-upload-speeds/ | Source: Techdirt
08:51 TR Bot; Forces Users To Buy Comcast Hardware If They Want Faster Upload Speeds | Techdirt
08:52 TR News; Chelsea Manning https://thedissenter.org/chelsea-manning-us-military-pressured-me-to-plead-guilty-to-aiding-the-enemy/ | Source: The Dissenter
08:52 TR Bot; US Pressured Chelsea Manning To Plead Guilty To Treason
08:53 TR News; Section 230 https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/reddit-wins-against-fosta-lawsuit-9th-circuit-says-fosta-requires-knowledge-of-violation/ | Source: Techdirt
08:53 TR Bot; Wins Against FOSTA Lawsuit: 9th Circuit Says FOSTA Requires Knowledge Of Violation | Techdirt
08:55 TR News; End the war, don't "win" the war. Wars have only losers.
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.16
09:01 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/irc-log-261022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/irc-log-261022/
09:01 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 26, 2022 | Techrights
09:03 TR News; "denialism" https://www.projectcensored.org/electoral-denialism-cuts-across-party-lines-despite-what-the-corporate-media-would-have-us-believe-both-parties-engage-in-the-big-lie-and-the-rest-of-lose-because-of-it/ | Source: Project Censored
09:03 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/electoral-denialism-cuts-across-party-lines-despite-what-the-corporate-media-would-have-us-believe-both-parties-engage-in-the-big-lie-and-the-rest-of-lose-because-of-it/ )
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09:04 TR News; "Russian Internet Safety League" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/26/russian-internet-safety-advocate-denounces-rapper-oxxxymiron-for-lyrics-allegedly-calling-for-st-petersburg-s-secession | Source: Meduza
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09:09 TR News; "working people haven't seen a real pay increase" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/new-survey-suggests-populist-economic-message-can-help-dems-prevail-midterms | Source: Common Dreams
09:09 TR Bot; New Survey Suggests Populist Economic Message Can Help Dems Prevail in Midterms
09:09 TR News; "Aggressive Profiteering" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/citing-aggressive-profiteering-sanders-and-warren-urge-ftc-stop-kroger-albertsons | Source: Common Dreams
09:09 TR Bot; Citing 'Aggressive Profiteering,' Sanders and Warren Urge FTC to Stop Kroger-Albertsons Merger
09:10 TR News; "Fed Is Using 'Flat Wrong' Analysis" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/afl-cio-economist-warns-fed-using-flat-wrong-analysis-inflict-pain-workers | Source: Common Dreams
09:10 TR Bot; AFL-CIO Economist Warns Fed Is Using 'Flat Wrong' Analysis to Inflict Pain on Workers
09:11 TR News; Oligarchy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/26/us-oligarchy-getting-exactly-kind-election-it-paid | Source: Common Dreams
09:11 TR Bot; Opinion | The US Oligarchy Is Getting Exactly the Kind of Election It Paid For | Thom Hartmann
09:14 TR News; left-leaning sites try to associate hand-counting votes (which is the right thing to do) with "Big Lie Conspiracy" "https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/26/fueled-big-lie-conspiracy-gop-officials-move-hand-counts-arizona-nevada
09:14 TR Bot; Fueled by Big Lie Conspiracy, GOP Officials Move to Hand Counts in Arizona, Nevada
09:14 TR News; "information whose distribution is banned" https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/26/russian-economic-development-ministry-drafts-bill-to-extend-existing-content-bans-to-video-games | Source: Meduza
09:14 TR Bot; NO TITLE
09:15 TR News; "Embedding Content" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/why-embedding-content-matters/ | Source: Techdirt
09:15 TR Bot; Embedding Content Matters | Techdirt
09:16 TR News; "Governments set up rules governing how they govern. Then they ignore them. So, whats the point?" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/26/investigation-child-protective-services-agencies-nearly-always-blow-off-warrant-requirements-to-enter-homes/ | Source: Techdirt
09:16 TR Bot; Child Protective Services Agencies Nearly Always Blow Off Warrant Requirements To Enter Homes | Techdirt
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:32 TR News; (NEW): Kernel: Performance, Graphics, Netfilter, Rust, and 486 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Kernel_Performance_Graphics_Netfilter_Rust_and_486.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Kernel_Performance_Graphics_Netfilter_Rust_and_486.gmi
09:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kernel: Performance, Graphics, Netfilter, Rust, and 486
09:33 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu Membership Boards http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_Membership_Boards.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_Membership_Boards.gmi
09:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu Membership Boards
09:33 TR News; (NEW): Autonomy: Open Hardware and Self-Hosting http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Autonomy_Open_Hardware_and_Self_Hosting.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Autonomy_Open_Hardware_and_Self_Hosting.gmi
09:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Autonomy: Open Hardware and Self-Hosting
09:33 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.gmi
09:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
09:33 TR News; (NEW): Distros: Hopping, systemd-free Options, and Red Hat "Customer Success" http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Distros_Hopping_systemd_free_Options_and_Red_Hat_Customer_Succe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Distros_Hopping_systemd_free_Options_and_Red_Hat_Customer_Succe.gmi
09:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Distros: Hopping, systemd-free Options, and Red Hat "Customer Success"
09:36 TR News; Links 27/10/2022: Important Bugfixes in Linux and Tor | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/bugfixes-in-linux-and-tor/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/bugfixes-in-linux-and-tor/
09:36 TR Bot; Links 27/10/2022: Important Bugfixes in Linux and Tor | Techrights
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:27 TR News; Theres No Future for Investigative Journalism on the World Wide Web | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/world-wide-web-news-killer/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/world-wide-web-news-killer/
11:27 TR Bot; Theres No Future for Investigative Journalism on the World Wide Web | Techrights
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11:56 TR News; E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as Text, Not as Web Pages (Also, Webmail is Regressive) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/keep-email-simple/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/keep-email-simple/
11:56 TR Bot; E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as Text, Not as Web Pages (Also, Webmail is Regressive) | Techrights
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12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:42 TR News; (NEW): WiFi HaLow IoT gateway is based on Morse Micro MM6108 802.11ah chip http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/WiFi_HaLow_IoT_gateway_is_based_on_Morse_Micro_MM6108_802_11ah_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/WiFi_HaLow_IoT_gateway_is_based_on_Morse_Micro_MM6108_802_11ah_.gmi
12:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines WiFi HaLow IoT gateway is based on Morse Micro MM6108 802.11ah chip
12:49 TR News; Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/
12:49 TR Bot; Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights
12:50 MinceR; http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2483
12:50 TR Bot; Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 10/13/2022
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13:03 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMA97yQZ4zk
13:03 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=NMA97yQZ4zk
13:04 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | The DOOM Plasma Rifle - A Technical Analysis - Invidious
13:11 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.gmi
13:11 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:25 TR News; Lets Put an End to Software Patents by Contacting Our Representatives (Politicians) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/eu-swpats-action-needed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/eu-swpats-action-needed/
13:25 TR Bot; Lets Put an End to Software Patents by Contacting Our Representatives (Politicians) | Techrights
13:27 TR News; Software Patents in Europe - page now exceeds 700k views. http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_Europe
13:27 TR Bot; Software Patents in Europe - Techrights
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14:17 TR News; Elon Musk is Buying a Dying Train Wreck Tomorrow (Twitter) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/buying-a-dying-train-wreck/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/buying-a-dying-train-wreck/
14:17 TR Bot; Elon Musk is Buying a Dying Train Wreck Tomorrow (Twitter) | Techrights
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:23 TR News; The internet is broken due to structural injustice | Ariadne's Space https://ariadne.space/2022/10/27/the-internet-is-broken-due-to-structural-injustice/ Source: Ariadne Conill | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ariadne.space/2022/10/27/the-internet-is-broken-due-to-structural-injustice/
14:23 TR Bot; The internet is broken due to structural injustice | Ariadne's Space
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14:25 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi
14:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
14:30 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2210022
14:30 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://imgur.com/4k11Vcy.jpg created on 2022-10-02 00:46:08.952306
14:31 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://itwire.com/security/australian-firms-hit-by-industrial-ransomware-in-3q,-sec-firm-dragos-claims.html
14:31 TR Bot; - Australian firms hit by industrial ransomware in 3Q, sec firm Dragos claims
14:31 TR News; "The next instalment of the Medibank Group data breach has arrived, with the company confessing on Thursday that patient information from My Home Hospital had also been accessed by an attacker." https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/medibank-says-my-home-hospital-also-hit,-pii-and-health-data-accessed.html
14:32 TR Bot; - Medibank says My Home Hospital also hit, PII and health data accessed
14:32 TR News; "Almost nine months after it experienced what it terms a "cyber incident", private pathology practice Medlab Pathology has issued a statement about the incident in which Medicare details and credit card numbers of staff and patients were stolen." https://itwire.com/security/pathology-practice-medlab-reveals-data-breach-after-nine-months.html
14:32 TR Bot; - Pathology practice Medlab reveals data breach after nine months
14:33 TR News; 7 Linux commands to gather information about your system | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-system-info-commands Source: Red Hat Official | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-system-info-commands
14:33 TR Bot; 7 Linux commands to gather information about your system | Enable Sysadmin
14:34 TR News; "Open Source in Enterprise Environments, Your Comprehensive Guide to rc(8): FreeBSD Services and Automation, How Rob Pike got hired by Dennis Richie, what FreeBSD machines rubenerd uses, new debugbreak command, 7 sudo myths debunked" https://www.bsdnow.tv/478
14:34 TR Bot; BSD Now 478: Debunking sudo myths
14:35 TR News; Australian Health Insurer Medibank Suffers Breach Exposing 3.9 Million Customers' Data https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/australian-health-insurer-medibank.html Source: Hacker News | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//thehackernews.com/2022/10/australian-health-insurer-medibank.html
14:35 TR Bot; Australian Health Insurer Medibank Suffers Breach Exposing 3.9 Million Customers' Data
14:36 TR News; Don't put listening devices anywhere near you; they DO NOT function as advertised!!! https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/apple-ios-and-macos-flaw-couldve-let.html
14:36 TR Bot; Apple iOS and macOS Flaw Could've Let Apps Eavesdrop on Your Conversations with Siri
14:37 TR News; Doctors may be punished in California. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/cristian-terhes-eppo/
14:37 TR Bot; Blog Archive Lots of Money Wasted on Overpriced Products That Do Not Curb COVID-19s Spread as Advertised
14:37 TR News; Its easy to get distracted by the media and think that Googles manipulation of E-mail traffic is a political rather than a corporate issue http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/google-email-domination/
14:37 TR Bot; Political Bias is a Distraction From Googles Abuse of Power Over E-mail | Techrights
14:37 TR News; Any nations democracy is at risk from social control media giants that are for-profit corporations and not communication tools (meddling and interference is their main business model, if any viable business model exists at all) http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/social-media-vs-democracy/
14:37 TR Bot; Its Naive to Believe Foreign For-Profit Corporations Will Guard Democracy Online | Techrights
14:38 TR News; The so-called Linux Foundation (run partly by Microsoft) helps Microsoft attack R, e.g. by taking on the R Foundation http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/r-foundation-and-linux-foundation/
14:38 TR Bot; The R Foundation and R Consortium Arent the Same; One is a Front Group for Corporations Like Microsoft | Techrights
14:38 TR News; Techrights has been working behind the scenes to curtail software patenting; more information will come out soon http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/papers-swpats-apple-and-upc/
14:38 TR Bot; Pushing Back Against Software Patents and More | Techrights
14:38 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/O6w5CFg.jpeg
14:39 TR News; Technology has turned from a tool of enablement and emancipation into a facilitator of oppression and subjugation over those using it (or being used, remotely, by the real owners) http://techrights.org/2022/10/26/outsourced-universities/
14:39 TR Bot; Dont Outsource Schools and Universities to Pentagon-Subsidised Agents of Oppression | Techrights
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14:41 TR News; On the World Wide Web*, journalism is perishing; there are several reasons for this, but its simply a reality weve come to accept http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/world-wide-web-news-killer/
14:41 TR Bot; Theres No Future for Investigative Journalism on the World Wide Web | Techrights
14:41 TR News; E-mail has become a sordid mess; even though E-mail by far predates the Web (nowadays its almost exclusively the latter) what many folks refer to as E-mail is basically some Web site and messages are in fact Web pages, not text http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/keep-email-simple/
14:41 TR Bot; E-mail is Simple, Secure and Robust If Decentralised and Treated as Text, Not as Web Pages (Also, Webmail is Regressive) | Techrights
14:41 TR News; Techrights 10 new videos in 13 hours. New record for sure.
14:42 TR News; The general security of the voting process (freedom from meddling, tampering, outside intervention) has gotten worse due to digitisation/digitalisation, which makes the process more easily accessible to foreign and hostile countries http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/calling-everyone-nazis/
14:42 TR Bot; Critics of Voting Machines (Proprietary With Back Doors) Arent Nazis | Techrights
14:42 TR News; A call for participation by readers, seeing that the EFF quit doing activism in this domain and the Patent Maximalism Lobby makes some gains by misleading our politicians http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/eu-swpats-action-needed/
14:42 TR Bot; Lets Put an End to Software Patents by Contacting Our Representatives (Politicians) | Techrights
14:42 TR News; The disingenuous takeover by Elon Musk and associates (including the Saudi royal family, in dire need of reputation laundering) is a disaster in the making; Twitter is going to die even faster than before http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/buying-a-dying-train-wreck/
14:42 TR Bot; Elon Musk is Buying a Dying Train Wreck Tomorrow (Twitter) | Techrights
14:46 TR News; Canonical's Adding a Neat Ability to the Steam Snap App for Gamers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.shtml
14:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines What? The Steam snap is evolving! (UPDATED)
14:52 TR News; "Content note: This statement contains references to indiscriminate violence and acts potentially amounting to mass murder, and war crimes." https://www.accessnow.org/myanmar-internet-shutdown-hpakant/
14:52 TR Bot; Internet shutdowns shroud and facilitate brutality of Myanmar juntas airstrike in Hpakant township - Access Now
14:53 TR News; (UPDATED): What? The Steam snap is evolving! (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.gmi
14:55 TR News; Canonical: clown computing RESELLER for Pentagon (GAFAM) https://ubuntu.com//blog/aws-pricing
14:56 TR Bot; AWS pricing | Ubuntu
14:56 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
14:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
14:58 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
14:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 126.61
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15:10 TR News; (NEW): Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.gmi
15:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11
15:12 TR News; Elektrobit partners with Canonical to pave the way to a new era of software-defined vehicles | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/elektrobit-partners-with-canonical Source: Ubuntubuzz | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ubuntu.com//blog/elektrobit-partners-with-canonical
15:12 TR Bot; partners with Canonical to pave the way to a new era of software-defined vehicles | Ubuntu
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15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:29 TR News; (NEW): The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_GNOME_Project_is_closing_all_its_mailing_lists.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_GNOME_Project_is_closing_all_its_mailing_lists.gmi
15:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists
15:30 matteobin; Really?!
15:30 matteobin; That's insane and sad!
15:31 schestowitz[TR3]; <schestowitz-TR2> abandoning email for "web" (JS crap, bloat, hard to maintain in the long run -> data loss)
15:31 schestowitz[TR3]; discussed in another channel atm
15:31 matteobin; Mailing lists are way better than forums!
15:31 matteobin; Which one?
15:31 matteobin; I do like forums though.
15:33 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-sec[2]> Not just data loss but financial loss since HTML mail in general and web mail
15:33 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-sec[2]> in particular make it not just feasible but easy to phish at the same time
15:33 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-sec[2]> it makes it all but impossible to avoid phishing other than by acting on
15:33 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-sec[2]> hunches or clues because all the real information is hidden. Beyond hiding,
15:33 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-sec[2]> your old friend javascript can be used to obfuscate the true destination
15:33 schestowitz[TR3]; <techrights-sec[2]> of various embedded links. So "hovering" over them will give a false message.
15:34 schestowitz[TR3]; matteobin: in #boycottnovell (old channel, 2008-present)
15:40 TR News; Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 3: serial driver https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/27/Kernel-hacking-with-Hare-part-3.html Source: Drew DeVault | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//drewdevault.com/2022/10/27/Kernel-hacking-with-Hare-part-3.html
15:40 TR Bot; Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 3: serial driver
15:40 matteobin; Thanks!
15:41 TR News; Kernel 6.1-rc# might break backlight control on old/weird laptops, please test LiveJournal https://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/26427.html Source: hansdegoede | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//hansdegoede.livejournal.com/26427.html
15:41 TR Bot; Kernel 6.1-rc# might break backlight control on old/weird laptops, please test: hansdegoede LiveJournal
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16:06 TR News; Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/
16:06 TR Bot; Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights
16:09 TR News; Even proprietary CHROME is NOT doing THIS: http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/
16:09 TR News; Who is Mozilla trying to impress??? http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla
16:09 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights
16:10 TR News; The next iteration of the Firefox logo will have a shopping basket instead of a fox.
16:16 TR News; (NEW): GNUnet 0.18.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/GNUnet_0_18_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/GNUnet_0_18_0_released.gmi
16:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNUnet 0.18.0 released
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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16:31 TR News; hwmon: Add Ampere's Altra smpro-hwmon driver https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git/commit/?h=hwmon-next&id=a87456864cbbde10cbc200387c75a2336be270e5
16:31 TR Bot; kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git - hwmon staging tree
16:32 TR News; "The next Nvidia Spectrum ASIC will support 800Gbps speed." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git/commit/?id=ea5ed0f00b07d5aba09189729d54751c98494f25
16:32 TR Bot; kernel/git/netdev/net-next.git - Netdev Group's -next networking tree
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16:48 TR News; New NHS data: COVID-19 TESTS are down. Yay!! VICTORY! We're not checking infections.
16:51 TR News; Soon 210,000 COVID-19-linked deaths in the UK. About 2000 EXTRA deaths each WEEK, not attributed to COVID-19 because we're not properly testing or checking the root causes.
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16:53 TR News; To know what's going on with COVID-19 in the UK follow ONS for estimates of fatalities/victims/casualties of the surge of COVID-19. It's about 2000 more people PER WEEK (than before pandemic). That's almost 10,000 EXTRA deaths PER MONTH. The media doesn't talk about this.
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16:55 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2210020
16:55 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/kin3z8p030r91.jpg created on 2022-10-02 00:23:54.658435
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16:55 TR News; Corporate media: Don't mind COVID. Go shopping. Shop till you drop. Literally. ~9k extra deaths per month, but COVID is "solved". The vaccines solved EVERYTHING!
16:59 TR News; ICBM selling extra complexity (vendor lockin) under the auspices of "digital transformation" or "modernisation" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/digital-transformation-questions-help-drive-momentum
16:59 TR Bot; Digital transformation: 4 questions to help drive momentum | The Enterprisers Project
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 76.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.31
17:00 TR News; Fedora 'community' = ICBM STAFF https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-37-release-party/ megacorporations rebrand as "communities"
17:00 TR Bot; You're invited to the Fedora Linux 37 Release Party! Fedora Community Blog
17:02 TR News; Why the 'true fans' model is great not only for creators, but for entrepreneurs too - Walled Culture https://walledculture.org/why-the-true-fans-model-is-great-not-only-for-creators-but-for-entrepreneurs-too/
17:02 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/why-the-true-fans-model-is-great-not-only-for-creators-but-for-entrepreneurs-too/ )
17:04 TR News; Timothy Prickett Morgan reduced to obedient (sponsored) megaphone of Gartner and IDC https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/27/datacenter-is-the-hot-spot-in-it-spending-in-2022/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group http://techrights.org/wiki/IDC
17:04 TR Bot; Datacenter Is The Hot Spot In IT Spending In 2022
17:04 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
17:04 TR Bot; IDC - Techrights
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17:05 TR News; Gartner "magic quadrant" BS: you have to believe in magic to believe these liars' utter lies (sponsored by those whom they recommend). Institutional corruption. Bribery.
17:08 TR News; AMD is outsourcing code to Microsoft's Proprietary Prison (GitHub). Did it get infiltrated by Microsofters like Intel got infiltrated by them (Intel self-hosted its code before the sellout... succumbing to Microsoft)? http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel
17:08 TR Bot; Intel - Techrights
17:08 TR News; Outsourcing to GitHub is never the right thing to do and oftentimes it's a hallmark of HR problem. You hire or accept into your project people who work for Microsoft instead of the project.
17:09 TR News; Speaking of Microsofters who outsource everything to Microsoft... https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2022/10/26/this-week-in-rust-466/ "This Week in Rust is openly developed on GitHub." Openly??? On proprietary crap? MUST CREATE MICROSOFT ACCOUNT??
17:09 TR Bot; This Week in Rust 466 This Week in Rust
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17:10 TR News; People who try to defend outsourcing to Microsoft's GitHub suffer from the 'Lukashenko syndrome".
17:13 TR News; Running sudo without updating cached credentials | Sudo https://www.sudo.ws/posts/2022/10/running-sudo-without-updating-cached-credentials/ Source: Sudo | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sudo.ws/posts/2022/10/running-sudo-without-updating-cached-credentials/
17:13 TR Bot; Running sudo without updating cached credentials | Sudo
17:14 TR News; (NEW): Call for Testing Next Generation Installer http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Call_for_Testing_Next_Generation_Installer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Call_for_Testing_Next_Generation_Installer.gmi
17:14 TR Bot; Tux Machines Call for Testing Next Generation Installer
17:15 TR News; he misinformation company Mozilla is promoting fake privacy (rebranded VPN operated by a surveillance company) to GNU/Linux users (Debian in my case) by hijacking new tabs for ads sake; six days ago Ryan published "Mozilla Changes Firefox Settings/Themes Without Asking" (it seems to be what just happened to me) http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/
17:15 TR Bot; Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights
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17:16 TR News; "This time I was storing photos in JPEG format (instead of RAW), and I did no post-processing. I turned the photos into a movie using OpenShot on Linux." https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/time-lapse-naplas/
17:16 TR Bot; Lake Napls: giving time-lapse photography another try | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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17:27 TR News; 15 Open Source WebDAV Servers https://medevel.com/15-os-webdav-servers/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/15-os-webdav-servers/
17:27 TR Bot; 15 Open Source WebDAV Servers
17:28 TR News; SFTPGo: Open Source SFTP Server with WebDAV Support https://medevel.com/sftpgo/ Source: Medevel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//medevel.com/sftpgo/
17:28 TR Bot; SFTPGo: Open Source SFTP Server with WebDAV Support
17:28 TR News; "Free Software can be a tool for citizens to actively participate in their local community. Petter invites you into the world of Decidim and explains what citizen participation should look like." https://fsfe.org/news/podcast/episode-17.en.html
17:28 TR Bot; SFP#17: Citizen participation through Free Software with Petter Joelson - FSFE
17:29 TR News; Don't fear the grepper! (4) - DEV Community https://dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-4-nki Source: Elizabeth Mattijsen | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dev.to/lizmat/dont-fear-the-grepper-4-nki
17:29 TR Bot; Don't fear the grepper! (4) - DEV Community
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17:31 TR News; "I am working on running EasyOS as user "zeus", where zeus has administrator rights. That means you don't have to prepend "sudo" to do stuff, such as mount a partition." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/problem-with-mount-utility-when-non-root.html
17:31 TR Bot; Problem with mount utility when non-root
17:34 TR News; [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Make HWP calibration work on all hybrid platforms https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/2258064.ElGaqSPkdT@kreacher/
17:34 TR Bot; [PATCH 0/2] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Make HWP calibration work on all hybrid platforms - Rafael J. Wysocki
17:36 TR News; Merge branch 'pm-cpufreq' into linux-next https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git/commit/?h=linux-next&id=49c6629f06a33addd2d77936d3069e58dc31c5d2
17:36 TR Bot; kernel/git/rafael/linux-pm.git - Linux Power Management Tree
17:39 TR News; "Lua isn't an object-oriented programming language, but a scripting language utilizing C functions and a C-like syntax. However, there's a cool hack you can use within Lua code to make Lua act like an object-oriented language when you need it to be." https://opensource.com/article/22/10/object-oriented-lua
17:39 TR Bot; Lua into becoming an object-oriented language | Opensource.com
17:45 TR News; Customize GNOME 42 with A Polished Look https://www.debugpoint.com/customize-gnome-42-look-1/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.debugpoint.com/customize-gnome-42-look-1/
17:45 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/customize-gnome-42-look-1/ )
17:47 TR News; The search for the correct amount of split-lock misery [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/911219/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/911219/
17:47 TR Bot; search for the correct amount of split-lock misery [LWN.net]
17:47 TR News; (NEW): 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/10_Lightweight_Linux_Distributions_for_your_Old_Hardware_in_202.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/10_Lightweight_Linux_Distributions_for_your_Old_Hardware_in_202.gmi
17:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines 10 Lightweight Linux Distributions for your Old Hardware in 2022
17:48 TR News; (NEW): Mabox Linux - Beautiful Arch Linux with Openbox [Review] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Mabox_Linux_Beautiful_Arch_Linux_with_Openbox_Review.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Mabox_Linux_Beautiful_Arch_Linux_with_Openbox_Review.gmi
17:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mabox Linux - Beautiful Arch Linux with Openbox [Review]
17:49 TR News; ## Use this Thread for Cool Gemini Bookmarks! gemini://geddit.glv.one/s/558
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17:50 TR News; SpellBinding: AGOLRPH Wordo: DUCHY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-27.gmi
17:51 TR News; "Im feeling extra bad today. Im a fucking failure . My gf hates me so much. I just want to die" gemini://dk.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-10-26.gmi
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17:53 TR News; "Im now browsing Gemini completely offline. It works. Imanaged to make AV-98 a totally offline gemini client which works well enough for my own needs and its a very interesting experience." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2021-12-17-offline-gemini.gmi
17:55 TR News; "Linus Torvalds released 6.1-rc1 and closed the 6.1 merge window on October 16; at that point, 11,537 non-merge changesets had been pulled into the mainline repository." https://lwn.net/Articles/910608/
17:55 TR Bot; rest of the 6.1 merge window [LWN.net]
17:55 TR News; Identity management for WireGuard https://lwn.net/Articles/910766/
17:55 TR Bot; management for WireGuard [LWN.net]
17:56 TR News; A first look at Rust in the 6.1 kernel [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/910762/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/910762/
17:56 TR Bot; first look at Rust in the 6.1 kernel [LWN.net]
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18:02 TR News; (NEW): The disabling of hardware codecs in community distributions http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_disabling_of_hardware_codecs_in_community_distributions.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/The_disabling_of_hardware_codecs_in_community_distributions.gmi
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18:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines The disabling of hardware codecs in community distributions
18:02 TR News; (NEW): Linux: 6.1, WireGuard, and Rust http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Linux_6_1_WireGuard_and_Rust.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Linux_6_1_WireGuard_and_Rust.gmi
18:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux: 6.1, WireGuard, and Rust
18:07 TR News; Pre-vaccine fatality rates lower than previously thought https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/pre-vaccine-fatality-rates/
18:07 TR Bot; Blog Archive Pre-vaccine fatality rates lower than previously thought
18:11 TR News; TUXEDO OS 1 Quick overview #linux #tuxedoos - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZOLneJMIUSI | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ZOLneJMIUSI
18:11 TR Bot; TUXEDO OS 1 Quick overview #linux #tuxedoos - Invidious
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18:12 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Lubuntu 22.10." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VRV5ZzP9LcQ
18:12 TR Bot; How to install Lubuntu 22.10. - Invidious
18:12 TR News; MANJARO has a BIG PROBLEM - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oVlD17OjFAc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/oVlD17OjFAc
18:12 TR Bot; MANJARO has a BIG PROBLEM - Invidious
18:13 reptilian_thrills; ariadne: is it ever acceptable to misgender someone, SPECIFICALLY, a cis person who refuses to use someones pronouns again and again and again?
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18:14 reptilian_thrills; this is not a trick question. if i twist your answer around in any way against the trans community, please find me and cut off my pinky finger yakuza style. no joke.
18:14 reptilian_thrills; /me realises he just opened himself up to losing a pinky via impersonation but w/e
18:15 TR News; How to Download YouTube Videos on Linux Using yt-dlp https://www.makeuseof.com/download-youtube-videos-yt-dlp-linux-terminal/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/download-youtube-videos-yt-dlp-linux-terminal/
18:15 TR Bot; How to Download YouTube Videos on Linux Using yt-dlp
18:16 reptilian_thrills; also im not going to say anything twattish if you ignore the question
18:16 reptilian_thrills; i would understand ofc
18:17 reptilian_thrills; mjg same question. how would your partner feel if a cisgender person were misgendered as a protest against their misgendering
18:18 schestowitz[TR3]; what does this have to do with techirhgts?
18:18 reptilian_thrills; obviously the idea of misgendering as a penalty isnt a precedent anyone (including myself) wants to snowball-- ive already seen (possible) misgendering used as a punishment in here
18:18 schestowitz[TR3]; seems like no a trick question
18:18 schestowitz[TR3]; but a way to trrick the channel to go into infighting
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18:19 reptilian_thrills; the channel isnt THAT interested in this, roy. if they were, they would have pounced on you referring to starstreak as "he" the other day
18:19 reptilian_thrills; i asked if it was a typo, twice. you ignored it (or missed it)
18:19 schestowitz[TR3]; probably a typo
18:19 schestowitz[TR3]; if someone said that
18:19 reptilian_thrills; probably? you dont know if you deliberately misgendered someone or not?
18:19 schestowitz[TR3]; I didn't watch irc much last night
18:19 schestowitz[TR3]; I recorded 5 videos
18:19 reptilian_thrills; it was you
18:19 schestowitz[TR3]; it would HAVE to be a mistake
18:19 reptilian_thrills; i assume probably typo. but it was fair to ask
18:19 reptilian_thrills; ok so a typo then
18:20 reptilian_thrills; cool
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 reptilian_thrills; but my first question was not about you, but a more prominent person in the free software community
18:20 reptilian_thrills; mjg will figure it out
18:20 schestowitz[TR3]; she wrote me an email when changing gander
18:20 schestowitz[TR3]; even like 5 years after not being in thic channel
18:21 reptilian_thrills; shes a wonderful person. she would have to be for me to appreciate her friendship despite all the horrible software she likes :)
18:21 TR News; This it NOT an article! It's VPN SPAM! https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-use-a-vpn-to-get-more-content/ WWW = webspam
18:21 TR Bot; To Use A VPN To Get More Content - LinuxTechLab
18:21 Ariadne; i do not automatically assume misgendering is malicious
18:21 reptilian_thrills; tbph i respect her tech skills and intellect. shes one of those intelligent people that downplays just how smart they really are. but you didnt hear it from me.
18:22 reptilian_thrills; nor do i, ariadne
18:22 schestowitz[TR3]; she was years for years before
18:22 schestowitz[TR3]; and only a few months after
18:22 schestowitz[TR3]; and typos or freudian slips likely
18:22 schestowitz[TR3]; anyway, back to tech
18:22 Ariadne; i also dont think that schestowitz[TR3] is intentionally doing this
18:22 reptilian_thrills; i actually assume roy isnt intentionally doing it
18:22 schestowitz[TR3]; first episode of techbytes was with britnet
18:23 schestowitz[TR3]; back then brandon
18:23 reptilian_thrills; no need to say her old name roy
18:23 schestowitz[TR3]; as fedora ambassador
18:23 reptilian_thrills; she has linked me to the recording i think
18:23 reptilian_thrills; ive heard her in some old podcast anyway
18:23 reptilian_thrills; ariadne: i was actually thinking of stallman refusing to use they/them
18:24 reptilian_thrills; and i was thinking about a PROPORTIONAL (fair) response to that
18:24 reptilian_thrills; which i still think is a deserved poke
18:24 reptilian_thrills; ive defended his article as mere advice, but im not sure it is
18:25 reptilian_thrills; the joke about multiple personalities is particularly unfair-- both to enbies and to people with multiple personalities
18:25 reptilian_thrills; but im not much into being pc for its own sake
18:25 reptilian_thrills; this is about fairness, more than correctness-- i appreciate that thats quite a nuance
18:26 reptilian_thrills; pc is linked to zero tolerance policy. im against zero tolerance policies because they dont allow for nuance or measured responses. they counter those.
18:26 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
18:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
18:26 reptilian_thrills; but theres a difference between zero tolerance and "never do anything about anything"
18:27 schestowitz[TR3]; some attacks on rms were flimsy, like calling pro-abortion ableism
18:27 reptilian_thrills; like our only choices are zero tolerance or absolutism on the other end
18:27 schestowitz[TR3]; so now 90% of san francisco can be called ableist
18:27 reptilian_thrills; like calling pro-abortion ableism <- calling stallman an ableist is like calling natalie wynn a terf. its ridiculous.
18:28 reptilian_thrills; so now 90% of san francisco can be called ableist <- most of the attacks on stallman were constructed through presumed guilt at first accusation-- abstraction and essentialism.
18:28 reptilian_thrills; they were completely unfair
18:29 schestowitz[TR3]; some people don't want to permit abortion after x monthns
18:29 schestowitz[TR3]; are they anti-choice
18:29 schestowitz[TR3]; anti-women
18:29 schestowitz[TR3]; anti-abortion?
18:29 schestowitz[TR3]; for what value of x?
18:29 reptilian_thrills; the thing is, most people dont have late-term abortions
18:29 reptilian_thrills; theyre rare
18:29 reptilian_thrills; and going after late-term abortions is sort of like what they do to try to stop people from having trans rights
18:29 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Manjaro, Lubuntu, TUXEDO OS, FSFE, BSD Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Manjaro_Lubuntu_TUXEDO_OS_FSFE_BSD_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Manjaro_Lubuntu_TUXEDO_OS_FSFE_BSD_Now.gmi
18:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Manjaro, Lubuntu, TUXEDO OS, FSFE, BSD Now
18:29 reptilian_thrills; they think of the most extreme things they want to say "im not against rights, im only against blah blah blah"
18:30 reptilian_thrills; yes i support trans but HOW CAN YOU DO THAT TO CHILDREN
18:30 reptilian_thrills; dont cut them up!
18:30 schestowitz[TR3]; anyway, let's go back to tech
18:30 schestowitz[TR3]; this is playing with barbwire
18:30 schestowitz[TR3]; and you only end up with red hands
18:30 reptilian_thrills; and they sort of miss the point that at the onset of puberty, hormones start to turn someone who is mtf into someone more biologically male (for a time)
18:31 reptilian_thrills; and that means they need more surgery or other treatments later to reverse it
18:31 reptilian_thrills; the more abstract point being
18:31 TR News; Return to Sender : IFF's submission to the draft Telecom Bill, 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/our-response-to-the-draft-telecom-bill-2022/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/our-response-to-the-draft-telecom-bill-2022/
18:31 TR Bot; Return to Sender : IFF's submission to the draft Telecom Bill, 2022
18:31 reptilian_thrills; some people who claim to not be bigots (like jk rowling) are really just trying to counter progress at the most obvious / relatable points
18:31 reptilian_thrills; but its not about concern-- shes a concern troll
18:32 reptilian_thrills; rowling is just one example
18:32 reptilian_thrills; i mean this is how it works
18:32 TR News; Karnataka HC dismisses Aakar Patel's application https://internetfreedom.in/karnataka-hc-refuses-to-permit-an-impacted-user-to-intervene-in-twitters-petition-against-censorship-orders/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/karnataka-hc-refuses-to-permit-an-impacted-user-to-intervene-in-twitters-petition-against-censorship-orders/
18:32 TR Bot; Karnataka HC dismisses Aakar Patel's application
18:32 reptilian_thrills; and terfs are as bad as anyone about this
18:32 schestowitz[TR3]; jk rowling is not a tech
18:32 schestowitz[TR3]; maybe tso is more on topic
18:32 reptilian_thrills; i feel bad about tso :(
18:32 schestowitz[TR3]; namely his innocence
18:32 schestowitz[TR3]; an how inane the coc attack on him was
18:32 reptilian_thrills; i dont think tso was treated fairly AT ALL
18:32 reptilian_thrills; ive seen the
18:32 reptilian_thrills; yes
18:33 schestowitz[TR3]; and counterproiductive to women
18:33 reptilian_thrills; zero tolerance policy and accusation being conflated with guilt
18:33 schestowitz[TR3]; the attacks on his supports the stegma of militant feminism
18:33 reptilian_thrills; a travesty of justice
18:33 schestowitz[TR3]; *stigma
18:33 reptilian_thrills; honestly ive come to see feminism as more nuanced and consisting of camps
18:33 reptilian_thrills; years ago i saw it as waves
18:33 reptilian_thrills; but its more diverse than that
18:34 reptilian_thrills; each wave brought new camps
18:34 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th3cphfbsa9tc.irc) has joined #techrights
18:34 reptilian_thrills; old camps still exist, in smaller numbers
18:34 reptilian_thrills; jo freemans article on trashing is EXTREMELY useful to anyone who wants to see what killed free software
18:34 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/more-problems-with-googles-insecure-apps-alert-and-seamonkey-mail/
18:34 TR Bot; More problems with Googles insecure apps alert and SeaMonkey Mail. | BaronHK's Rants
18:34 reptilian_thrills; it was trashing that did stallman in
18:34 reptilian_thrills; and the fsf
18:34 reptilian_thrills; mjg says "consequences" and "critique"
18:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], I had to figure out what UA to fake to buy me some time before I have to mess with it again.
18:34 reptilian_thrills; freeman directly addressed that and countered it in 1976
18:34 reptilian_thrills; before mjg was even born i think
18:35 reptilian_thrills; i mean hes not 46
18:35 DaemonFC; I settled on "Thunderbird 102.12 on Windows NT 6.1". There is not 102.12 but my guess is that Google will ban you and log out if it thinks you haven't updated Thunderbird that month.
18:35 reptilian_thrills; hes younger than that
18:35 DaemonFC; They're on Thunderbird 102.4 right now.
18:36 reptilian_thrills; trashing isnt "consequences" or "critique"-- its mob injustice
18:36 *psydread (eace4d91cc@freenode-fvj.6po.iua1uf.IP) has joined #techrights
18:37 reptilian_thrills; it did come out of feminism
18:37 reptilian_thrills; but it was a mechanism by which feminism dismantled itself
18:37 reptilian_thrills; and it was a feminist qho critiqued this
18:37 reptilian_thrills; today you see it happening in free software
18:38 reptilian_thrills; and it happens in the trans community as well
18:38 reptilian_thrills; when you see people calling a trans woman a terf-- and saying shes a transmedicalist when she clearly is not
18:38 reptilian_thrills; as justifcation for not only trashing her reptuation, but harassing her friends simply for not throwing stones at her
18:39 reptilian_thrills; thats the community dismantling itself
18:39 TR News; Zorin OS 16.2 Has Landed - Zorin http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.shtml
18:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11
18:39 reptilian_thrills; the way it helps corporations like ibm and microsoft is very important
18:39 reptilian_thrills; however, it doesnt have to be initiated by corporations
18:39 reptilian_thrills; a community will dismantle itself this way
18:39 reptilian_thrills; and when they do, corporations will swoop in
18:39 reptilian_thrills; "daddys home!"
18:40 reptilian_thrills; this is probably what happened
18:40 reptilian_thrills; of course, its also true that corporations can sow discord and instigate these things
18:40 reptilian_thrills; i dont rule that out
18:40 reptilian_thrills; but its important to know a community can actually do this to itself without interference from the outside
18:40 reptilian_thrills; its NOT, as you might think, because they tackle or address these issues
18:41 reptilian_thrills; it IS because of they WAY the issues are tackled
18:41 reptilian_thrills; these issues will come up within feminism
18:41 reptilian_thrills; the confluence of feminism and free software has long existed
18:41 reptilian_thrills; it was only a matter of time before trans issues intersected. it was inevitable
18:41 reptilian_thrills; but dismantling the movement wasnt a necessary part of it
18:42 reptilian_thrills; and now that that has happened, dont expect anyone responsible to say "oh shit! WE FUCKED UP!"
18:42 reptilian_thrills; they wont
18:42 reptilian_thrills; self-righteousness is a prerequisite to trashing
18:42 reptilian_thrills; you have to be BETTER than someone to try to ruin them.
18:42 reptilian_thrills; maybe you are better. maybe they really ARE awful
18:42 reptilian_thrills; with stallman and tso i dont think those apply
18:43 reptilian_thrills; i think torvalds is awful, but not as awful as they accused him of.
18:43 reptilian_thrills; not in the way they accuse him of.
18:43 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO: "In the US, Colonial pipeline is seeking tax reductions from the loss incurred by the 2021 ransomware campaign they were victims of. But wait to what extent is the government (and, by extension, every taxpayer) is then indirectly sponsoring cybercrime?" https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/ransomware-open-source-to-rescue.html
18:43 TR Bot; Ransomware: Open Source to the Rescue
18:43 reptilian_thrills; not for the things they accused him of.
18:43 reptilian_thrills; i htink hes awful but i also think the accusations were unfair and unwarranted
18:43 reptilian_thrills; torvalds i mean
18:44 reptilian_thrills; tso: complete disaster. he should be ushering in the next phase of linux, NOT gkh
18:44 reptilian_thrills; even if his filesystems are garbage. its not like he would get rid of ones that work better.
18:44 reptilian_thrills; tso was all about fairness to the developer community and users, and being measured and thoughful about THOSE
18:45 reptilian_thrills; gkh is just like that-- but fairness to corporate stakeholders, fuck a user eh
18:45 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/researchers-expose-over-80-shadowpad.html
18:45 TR Bot; Researchers Expose Over 80 ShadowPad Malware C2 Servers
18:46 reptilian_thrills; corporations spend billions on how to LOOK BETTER than the competition
18:46 DaemonFC; https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2022/10/27/google-chrome-browser-windows-support-new-end-date
18:46 TR Bot; Google Kills Chrome For Millions Of Windows Users
18:47 reptilian_thrills; manipulating people into thinking ________ is better (using shitty but effective arguments)
18:47 DaemonFC; Over 13% of Windows users are on 7, 8, and 8.1 and will get no further updates for Chrome.
18:47 reptilian_thrills; what we see now is what happens when they apply that to people, not just products
18:47 DaemonFC; Although they would if they used GNU/Linux, which is free and probably works fine on that computer.
18:47 reptilian_thrills; theyre good at making it look like their PEOPLE are better than our people
18:47 DaemonFC; More reason to get rid of Windows.
18:47 reptilian_thrills; so we end up trashing our people in hopes of making them more like corporate shills
18:48 reptilian_thrills; which arent actually better-- but they LOOK better
18:48 reptilian_thrills; and who cares about what a person really thinks and feels-- if someone else LOOKS like they give more of a shit?
18:48 reptilian_thrills; isnt image what REALLY matters? not substance or truth?
18:48 reptilian_thrills; no, but when youve got billions to spend on pr, thats what happens
18:48 reptilian_thrills; the good guys become the bad guys. the bad guys become the good guys
18:49 reptilian_thrills; and tso gets replaced with gkh
18:49 reptilian_thrills; trashing torvalds with lies (note, i intensely dislike him as a person) means he gets no say in this
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18:49 TR News; From Lua to JSON: refactoring WirePlumber's configuration system https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/10/27/from-lua-to-json-refactoring-wireplumber-configuration-system/ Source: Collabora | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/10/27/from-lua-to-json-refactoring-wireplumber-configuration-system/
18:50 TR Bot; From Lua to JSON: refactoring WirePlumber's configuration system
18:50 reptilian_thrills; he would have supported tso
18:50 reptilian_thrills; so they attacked both
18:50 reptilian_thrills; corporations always make their shit look better using lies and propaganda
18:51 reptilian_thrills; even their people, their shills
18:51 reptilian_thrills; i saw what tso said
18:51 reptilian_thrills; it wasnt really bad
18:51 *horseface (~horseface@5x5s3vcpnr55g.irc) has joined #techrights
18:52 reptilian_thrills; you might say it wasnt even a little bad, but i couldnt possibly comment
18:52 TR News; "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could result in a denial-of-service condition causing the server to be unavailable." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-01
18:52 TR Bot; Rockwell Automation FactoryTalk Alarm and Events Server | CISA
18:53 TR News; JavaScript as a security killer https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-02 CVSS v3 8.8 (out of 10, very severe)
18:53 TR Bot; SAUTER Controls moduWeb | CISA
18:54 reptilian_thrills; i just realised mjg is like chief whip :D
18:54 reptilian_thrills; /me falls over lol
18:54 TR News; "A CVSS v3 base score of 8.8 has been assigned; the CVSS vector string is (AV:N/AC:L/PR:L/UI:N/S:U/C:H/I:H/A:H)." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-03
18:54 TR Bot; Rockwell Automation Stratix Devices Containing Cisco IOS | CISA
18:54 reptilian_thrills; i still want his opinion on whether misgendering stallman is a fair and reasonable response
18:55 TR News; "A specifically malformed HTTP request could cause the affected VTScada to crash. Both local area network (LAN)-only and internet facing systems are affected." Maybe stop shoving the WWW into everything? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-300-04
18:55 TR Bot; Trihedral VTScada | CISA
18:55 schestowitz[TR3]; no, mjg59_ is like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
18:55 TR Bot; Robert Byrd - Wikipedia
18:55 reptilian_thrills; stallman really dislikes singular they. i think a proportional response would be stallman (they/them)
18:55 schestowitz[TR3]; champion of trans people, after trashing them MOST of his life
18:56 reptilian_thrills; you actually explained (very simply) why byrd in particularly
18:56 reptilian_thrills; after trashing them MOST of his life <- i dont think that fairly sums up mjg
18:56 reptilian_thrills; though i got the metaphor at least
18:56 TR News; (NEW): Lua: WirePlumber and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Lua_WirePlumber_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Lua_WirePlumber_and_More.gmi
18:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Lua: WirePlumber and More
18:56 schestowitz[TR3]; he also had the audacity to go after me
18:56 reptilian_thrills; just because he was transphobic in the past doesnt mean he was a key figure in transphobia
18:56 schestowitz[TR3]; I got flask for SUPPORRRTING trans people... 20 years ago
18:56 schestowitz[TR3]; liek rtex ballard
18:56 reptilian_thrills; but then turnabout is fair play so, thats the joke, right?
18:56 schestowitz[TR3]; *rex
18:57 schestowitz[TR3]; *flak
18:57 schestowitz[TR3]; and you can check and see in USENET archives
18:57 reptilian_thrills; what did you do to support trans people 20 years ago?
18:57 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
18:57 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
18:58 reptilian_thrills; /me wonders if there are any usenet archives that can be accessed without google and non-free js
18:59 reptilian_thrills; comp.os.linux.advocacy?
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.46 average k/sec., average swarm size 113.71
18:59 reptilian_thrills; the original open cola
18:59 reptilian_thrills; open cola classic
19:00 reptilian_thrills; otherwise it would be called comp.os.gnu.advocacy
19:00 reptilian_thrills; admittedly, coga doesnt have quite as much ring to it
19:00 schestowitz[TR3]; brb I'm tying to focus on rss feeds, bad att multitasking
19:01 reptilian_thrills; heh
19:01 reptilian_thrills; leave that curtain alone, toto
19:01 reptilian_thrills; i already know whos there
19:01 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_Leftovers.2.gmi
19:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
19:05 phanes; i miss the planet aggregator
19:06 phanes; ive considered reviving that codebase a few times but its such a shitshow that i keep coming to the conclusion that it needs a rewrite that i dont have the time for
19:06 reptilian_thrills; most code is terrible
19:07 reptilian_thrills; a lot is worth running until non-terrible code is available
19:07 reptilian_thrills; depending on the situation of course. dont run terrible code on hospital equipment. or a spacecraft.
19:07 reptilian_thrills; or a nuclear plant
19:07 reptilian_thrills; there are other examples. i think for the most part, just run terrible code until you have something better.
19:08 reptilian_thrills; because again-- thats what most code is.
19:09 reptilian_thrills; deepwater horizon may have been due to terrible code
19:09 reptilian_thrills; so thats another no-no
19:09 reptilian_thrills; arent industrial control systems a bit notorious for being out of date and secure in patchy ways?
19:10 reptilian_thrills; idk, im not an expert on that. i suspect mjg doesnt know either, but perhaps he does
19:11 mjg59_; reptilian_thrills: I wouldn't misgender someone for misgendering someone
19:11 reptilian_thrills; mjg: im not surprised youre a purist about this. nor is that a critique. i actually wanted your opinion.
19:11 mjg59_; Industrial control systems: it varies a lot. Some is very well written embedded code. Some is a flash applet on Windows ME.
19:11 reptilian_thrills; how hard would you try to stop someone else from such a scheme? this too is nota trick question
19:12 reptilian_thrills; in other words, how much would you or your partner be offended if someone were to say...
19:12 reptilian_thrills; start referring to stallman as they/them. this is the primary example im thinking of. not hypothetical.
19:12 mjg59_; I doubt my partner would be offended at all
19:12 reptilian_thrills; i think it would be somewhat approaching divine justice
19:12 mjg59_; I don't think it would be terribly effective at changing stallman's mind
19:12 reptilian_thrills; concerns about setting a precedent i consider valid. thankfully i wouldnt be the first.
19:13 reptilian_thrills; oh i dont think anything would change his mind
19:13 reptilian_thrills; however ill tell yotu he best argument i came up with anyway
19:13 reptilian_thrills; you partner may appreciate this
19:13 reptilian_thrills; let me quote what i said to him
19:14 reptilian_thrills; for brevitys sake this will be incomplete and only contain the most relevant parts. im thinking like two lines of it here.
19:14 reptilian_thrills; Requesting They/Them is a very common request. Do you actually decline if
19:14 reptilian_thrills; asked? Or do you only extend this courtesy (it appears you might be making
19:14 reptilian_thrills; a joke at their expense instead, which is a shame) if they actually have
19:14 reptilian_thrills; multiple personalities?
19:14 MinceR; i thought they/them was as general as it got
19:15 reptilian_thrills; Because I do know more people with more than one
19:15 reptilian_thrills; gender. I would hope that is enough to extend this courtesy.
19:15 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> i thought they/them was as general as it got <- yeah but i think he prefers strong typing :)
19:15 MinceR; RMS?
19:15 reptilian_thrills; yeah
19:15 reptilian_thrills; It matters that much to people. Surely if they don't identify with the
19:15 reptilian_thrills; pronouns you suggest, we can help them? If you will for multiple
19:15 reptilian_thrills; personalities-- why not for multiple genders?
19:15 reptilian_thrills; i really think this is good: If you will for multiple personalities-- why not for multiple genders?
19:16 MinceR; i doubt it, and i'd hope he's aware of situations with lack of information
19:16 MinceR; they/them can apply to situations where i'm speaking about someone whose gender i do not know
19:16 reptilian_thrills; i'd hope he's aware of situations with lack of information <- i dont follow
19:16 MinceR; so i don't see how this could be insulting
19:16 reptilian_thrills; ah yes
19:16 reptilian_thrills; well the point isnt to insult him
19:16 reptilian_thrills; they/them isnt an insult
19:16 MinceR; also, afaik he's into lisp, which generally doesn't tend to enforce types of variables
19:16 reptilian_thrills; thats a fair point.
19:17 reptilian_thrills; i wasnt thinking if lisp, i should have
19:17 reptilian_thrills; also lisp doesnt care about parameter count. its as vague as "they" in his complaint.
19:17 TR News; A Ubuntu "tech" thing that is NOT "Debian with ads and Microsoft" https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-10-27/part-one-the-rising-of-ubuntu-lab/
19:17 TR Bot; Part One: The Rising of Ubuntu.Lab - Resilience
19:18 reptilian_thrills; or at least, it can be. im more familiar with pythons ability to do arbitrary parameter counts. i know lisp is CAPABLE of this at least
19:18 reptilian_thrills; and im not trying to say python does it better. seems unlikely.
19:18 phanes; lol @ multiple personalities. I remember when Frank Gingras was trying to convince people in the early 2000s that I had multiple personality disorder. That shit still has me rolling.
19:18 reptilian_thrills; its probably less funny if you actually have mpd
19:19 TR News; "As mentioned previously, Netgate has moved the underlying OS base from CentOS to Ubuntu - driven by Red Hat's shift from CentOS Linux to CentOS Stream" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/598008593/tnsr-vrouter-software-release-22-10-is-here ICBM cannot help shooting its own foot
19:19 reptilian_thrills; but then, some people who have more than one personality also have a sense of humour
19:19 TR Bot; TNSR vRouter Software Release 22.10 is Here - EIN Presswire
19:19 phanes; idk, might depend on which personality hears it?
19:19 reptilian_thrills; that too!
19:19 reptilian_thrills; i mean, one of the ways you GET a sense of humour is by surviving bullying
19:19 reptilian_thrills; which doesnt make the bullying great
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 reptilian_thrills; youre lucky if you survive it and dont become a narcissistic dickfuck with a blog
19:20 phanes; gotta get out of the habit, generally as a society, of pampering peoples' victim status and subverting their development of emotional resilience
19:20 TR News; Misleading. The Microsofters suggest running fake 'Linux' which is in fact Windows spyware crippled by design to make GNU/Linux looks bad https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/how-to-run-any-linux-distro-alongside-windows-11
19:20 TR Bot; How to run any Linux distro alongside Windows 11 | Windows Central
19:20 reptilian_thrills; of pampering peoples' victim status <- i mean, its a spectrum innit?
19:20 reptilian_thrills; on the one hand you have catering too much
19:20 reptilian_thrills; im sure that exists
19:21 reptilian_thrills; i can find you a book on weaponising victimhood that totally supports what youre saying
19:21 TR News; Microsoft will kill off WSL some time in the next year or few years. It was a stunning FAILURE (very few adopters). http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WSL
19:21 TR Bot; WSL - Techrights
19:21 reptilian_thrills; on the other hand
19:21 reptilian_thrills; if you put bullies in charge of everything, you dont get the society you claim to support building either.
19:21 reptilian_thrills; so i think this is one of those "middle of the road is the only way" things.
19:21 reptilian_thrills; it can be a big middle, but the extremes are treacherous
19:21 phanes; if you're walking on eggshells to prevent tomatoes being thrown at you over what pronouns you use in a conversation, or whether something offended some other imaginary class of people, then you're overcatering tbh. People need to put salt on it and move on like literally everyone else is expected to.
19:21 *starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
19:22 reptilian_thrills; if you're walking on eggshells <- any time peopel are walking on eggshells its a bad sign.
19:22 reptilian_thrills; hey starstreak
19:22 TR News; ICBM is killing Red Hat https://www.telecomtv.com/content/digital-platforms-services/rakuten-dumps-red-hat-turns-to-true-open-source-linux-os-45803/ more major clients... GONE
19:22 TR Bot; dumps Red Hat, turns to true open-source Linux OS, Digital Platforms & Services | TelecomTV
19:22 starstreak; hey reptilian_thrills
19:22 reptilian_thrills; i think its fair to refer to stallman as they/them. mjg says he wouldnt do that, but he doesnt think his partner would be offended
19:22 reptilian_thrills; i welcome your opinion in public or private
19:22 reptilian_thrills; in fact id really like it
19:22 reptilian_thrills; i think its fair to refer to stallman as they/the <- since he (most likely) refuses to on grounds of not liking singular they
19:23 reptilian_thrills; im not 100% sure about this but i have more than a hunch :/
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19:23 phanes; reptilian_thrills, eh, take everything that guy says with an equal grain of salt. It's only convenient for him to not be offended. When it's convenient he'll be offended.
19:24 reptilian_thrills; in general i think misgendering as a punishment is wrong. but to poke at an someone who refuses to gender an entire group properly
19:24 TR News; Microsofters are boosting Lennart Poettering (Microsoft) inside Linux. Take a HINT! https://devops.com/meta-income-down-apple-cut-linux-secure-boot-richixbw/
19:24 TR Bot; Income Down by Half | Will Apple Make it Worse? | Linux Secure Boot Fix - DevOps.com
19:24 reptilian_thrills; its a sort of divine justice. let me know if you disagree
19:24 reptilian_thrills; your opinion is valuable to me, and you wont be quoted either
19:25 phanes; i miss when foss wasn't being misused as a soap box for social justice to distract attention from everyone's shitty code and poor technical skills
19:25 reptilian_thrills; i miss when foss wasn't being misused as a soap box for social justice <- ah yes "the good old days"
19:25 phanes; old guard was full of gatekeepers, so it makes sense that we'd raise a generation of inept contributors, but we now have to recover from that
19:26 reptilian_thrills; fwiw i blame politics left of marxist more than the trans community
19:26 reptilian_thrills; youll notice the difference when you look at the minority of the trans community that is right of far-left
19:26 reptilian_thrills; including leah and ariadne
19:26 phanes; "the trans community" is a construct, a conversational device meant to create division and scapegoating
19:27 reptilian_thrills; well thats a ridiculous mischaracterisation
19:27 phanes; someone can be LBGT without having to join some collective and put on a star trek uniform
19:27 reptilian_thrills; i thought you were all about truth
19:27 reptilian_thrills; someone can be LBGT without having to join some collective and put on a star trek unifor <- that i agree with fully
19:28 phanes; when people are talking about "the trans community" they're almost exclusively using it in a way that is devisive and toxic even in otherwise positive contexts.
19:28 phanes; it is a conversational device
19:28 reptilian_thrills; almost exclusively <- fair enough. i think it can be used that wa
19:28 reptilian_thrills; i also think it can be used more reasonably
19:28 reptilian_thrills; back in a few
19:28 *reptilian_thrills has quit (connection closed)
19:29 phanes; you want an inclusive community that's friendly to LBGT? forget over-representation, just build an inclusive culture. that starts with tearing up logical identity dividers.
19:30 phanes; wanna be gay? be gay, it's no one's business. Wanna become a man? Become a man, that's no one's business. wanna be a simp cis white guy? that's just as valid. time to work on code or design instead of dividing people with group identity rhetoric.
19:31 phanes; any less is a bigotry
19:32 TR News; (NEW): Hans de Goede and Drew DeVault Kernel Hacking http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Hans_de_Goede_and_Drew_DeVault_Kernel_Hacking.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Hans_de_Goede_and_Drew_DeVault_Kernel_Hacking.gmi
19:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Hans de Goede and Drew DeVault Kernel Hacking
19:40 *reptilian_thrills (~reptilian_thrills@vvbde374bfqga.irc) has joined #techrights
19:41 reptilian_thrills; any time that a group has sought to be treated as equals they have stressed a collective identity
19:41 reptilian_thrills; the civil rights movement, womens sufferage-- these were true progressive movements
19:41 reptilian_thrills; of course it was in one wave of feminism that camps became militant and overly self-policing
19:42 schestowitz[TR3]; ok, then... back to tech
19:42 schestowitz[TR3]; it's techrights
19:42 schestowitz[TR3]; tech+rights
19:42 schestowitz[TR3]; rights as pertaining to TECH ;-)
19:42 schestowitz[TR3]; it's in the name ;-)
19:42 reptilian_thrills; that doesnt mean theres no such thing as feminism but it does mean a movement can work against itself
19:42 reptilian_thrills; similarly, there is a trans community, but pretending its homogenous or automatically does / should agree with you on anything is divisive
19:42 schestowitz[TR3]; important topic
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; what LP is planning to do
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; I wonder how mjg59_ feels about it
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; he once again mocked secure boot
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; calling is "security theatre"
19:43 reptilian_thrills; but its just as legitimate (a community) as any similar/important historical example
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; as distros adopt it
19:43 mjg59_; It's a perfectly reasonable design that does nothing to negatively impact user freedom
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; and wants to spread the IBM+Microsoft agenda: TPM/2
19:43 reptilian_thrills; there was a free software community, but it too dismantled itself
19:43 MinceR; lol
19:43 MinceR; there's the talking point
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; > nothing to negatively impact user freedom
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; false
19:43 schestowitz[TR3]; it can lock users out
19:44 reptilian_thrills; once again i blame post structuralism and left-of-marxist political mistakes
19:44 schestowitz[TR3]; of their computerts
19:44 schestowitz[TR3]; for this to work, they will need to enable this perpetually
19:44 MinceR; i guess MICROS~1 pays mjg59_ enough for him to disregard the fact that it negatively impacted _his_ user freedom
19:44 schestowitz[TR3]; and then, good luck getting back into your own machine
19:44 reptilian_thrills; lenin complained about this 100 years ago, before jo freeman complained about it in the feminist community in 1976
19:44 MinceR; who wants a computer they can own when the redmond mafia pays so much?
19:44 schestowitz[TR3]; MinceR: yes, he lost access to his data
19:44 schestowitz[TR3]; but sheesh!!
19:44 phanes; lol @ matt saying secure boot isn't impacting user freedom while MSFT is working hard with vendors to make installation of unapproved operating systems with it almost impossible for end users
19:44 schestowitz[TR3]; it's in his muskweets
19:44 reptilian_thrills; suckyour boot
19:45 reptilian_thrills; please bill, let me suckyour boot!
19:45 phanes; i sometimes wonder if you actually believe the dumb shit you say or if you're being paid to advocate a framework that's hostile to innovation
19:45 mjg59_; Lennart's proposal for a more integrated boot environment don't alter the secure boot situation
19:45 schestowitz[TR3]; he himself saids lenovo now locks out linus
19:45 schestowitz[TR3]; maybe he forgot
19:45 schestowitz[TR3]; *linus
19:45 schestowitz[TR3]; >linuxxx
19:45 reptilian_thrills; Lennart's proposal <- should be called the subjugation proclamation
19:46 MinceR; yay, poettering will revolutionize MICROS~1's vendor lockin
19:46 MinceR; apparently it is not complex and error-prone enough for the NSA's taste
19:46 MinceR; poettering to the rescue!
19:46 mjg59_; It removes a bunch of the existing complexity
19:46 MinceR; sure it does
19:46 mjg59_; It literally does?
19:46 reptilian_thrills; yeah, getting throw into a river simplifies your life a lot
19:46 MinceR; yeah, you insisting is extremely convincing
19:46 TR News; More fake 'security' by outsourcing "trust" to a b unch of incognito losers on the Pentagon-funded cartel (keychain) https://portswigger.net/burp/documentation/desktop/external-browser-config/certificate/ca-cert-chrome-linux
19:46 TR Bot; Installing Burp's CA certificate in Chrome - Linux - PortSwigger
19:46 MinceR; after seeing your previous bullshit
19:46 phanes; yeah UEFI is SELinux all over again. I say this as I patch a system for a vulnerability that allows root shell access, easily, but only when Selinux is enabled.
19:47 Ariadne; poettering's proposal streamlines some things
19:47 reptilian_thrills; /me chucks laptop off a cliff
19:47 Ariadne; but UEFI is terrible
19:47 reptilian_thrills; OH THIS IS SO MUCH SIMPLER!
19:47 MinceR; that's what i'll get to do to my next laptop, i guess
19:47 reptilian_thrills; UEFI is terrible <- true
19:47 mjg59_; UEFI *is* terrible
19:47 MinceR; removing the SSD so i could boot from USB and remove the offending efivar wasn't good enough
19:47 mjg59_; BIOS was differently terrible
19:47 mjg59_; All firmware sucks
19:47 MinceR; BIOS actually worked
19:47 MinceR; unlike UEFI
19:48 reptilian_thrills; All firmware sucks <- i would say AFAB but that acronym is taken
19:48 reptilian_thrills; /me says all corps are bastards
19:48 MinceR; "but it didn't let me do stuff in setup with my mouse!" who gives a fuck.
19:48 Ariadne; IEEE1275 (openfirmware) is reasonable tbh
19:48 schestowitz[TR3]; <mjg59_> All firmware sucks
19:48 schestowitz[TR3]; mirosoft talking point
19:48 schestowitz[TR3]; ALL X sucks
19:48 schestowitz[TR3]; when Microsoft sucks at X
19:48 mjg59_; BIOS "worked" because people spent decades figuring out which bits of it were reliably implemented across systems
19:48 schestowitz[TR3]; "all computers are niot secure"
19:48 schestowitz[TR3]; "all PCs are slow"
19:48 phanes; the bios wasn't a design shift that was funded purely to force users to adopt non-foss operating systems by forcing research tree selection in subsequent computing generations
19:48 Ariadne; UEFI is basically "we looked at IEEE1275 and then learned all the wrong lessons" imo
19:49 schestowitz[TR3]; "every company is homophobic like Microsoft
19:49 MinceR; since UEFI was invented, the people in charge of things stopped caring
19:49 schestowitz[TR3]; "everyone bribes"
19:49 MinceR; now we get self-bricking devices. yay.
19:49 reptilian_thrills; <Ariadne> UEFI is basically "we looked at IEEE1275 and then learned all the wrong lessons" imo <-
19:49 schestowitz[TR3]; if that fails, "you are an idiot!"
19:49 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> now we get self-bricking devices. yay. <- complete coincidence
19:49 mjg59_; IEEE1275 was basically ignored because nobody wanted to learn forth to write drivers
19:49 reptilian_thrills; never attribute to malice what can be explained by pure evil
19:49 MinceR; lol
19:49 reptilian_thrills; :>
19:50 phanes; to be clear i dont think the evil behind UEFI was in the designers or developers but in the people paying those useful idiots and forcing vendor changes to adopt it for strategic benefit
19:50 schestowitz[TR3]; e.e.e.vil
19:50 phanes; which was also clearly the end result
19:50 reptilian_thrills; but in the people paying those useful idiots <- ill buy that
19:50 schestowitz[TR3]; systemdctl start evil
19:50 schestowitz[TR3]; *systemctl
19:50 reptilian_thrills; of course if there was a good alternative id buy THAT instead
19:50 reptilian_thrills; /me eyes os.boot
19:51 starstreak; fedora can be installed on secure boot systems
19:51 starstreak; muh freedom!
19:51 phanes; those arguments fall apart as soon as you try to roll your own and distribute that
19:51 TR News; Phoronix: ooooh! cool shiny new toys: "Microsoft Releases Its Linux Distribution Update For October 2022". How many users does this crap have other than Microsoft? Doesn't natter. Phoronix is paid by Microsoft hardware attaches.
19:52 MinceR; dehomag paid MICROS~1 so that fedora could be installed on Restricted Boot systems
19:52 MinceR; yay, the freedom to pay.
19:52 MinceR; though i guess redhat paid before dehomag bought them
19:52 MinceR; same difference.
19:52 schestowitz[TR3]; fedora cannot boot sometimes
19:52 schestowitz[TR3]; because of Microsoft
19:52 MinceR; that's typical of "modern" systems
19:52 phanes; ive not had issues with booting fedora on modern systems
19:52 MinceR; it is expected, even desirable
19:52 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> yay, the freedom to pay. <- youre free to do as we tell you-- bill hicks
19:52 schestowitz[TR3]; but starstreak wanted to work for Microsoft, so...
19:53 schestowitz[TR3]; no harm done, I guess
19:53 phanes; ew
19:53 starstreak; they have an affirmative action program for autistic people like myself
19:53 phanes; i turned down linkedin a few times
19:53 schestowitz[TR3]; they don't
19:53 schestowitz[TR3]; it's a lie
19:53 phanes; facebook as well
19:53 schestowitz[TR3]; Microsoft kills the crippled and such
19:53 MinceR; yay, affirmative action
19:53 schestowitz[TR3]; but pretends to care foe special needs
19:53 reptilian_thrills; they have an affirmative action program <- i consider it exploitative, especially in the way they promote it
19:54 schestowitz[TR3]; don't believe what Microsoft ays
19:54 phanes; was about halfway through the technical interview before i realized this was a fuzz trap
19:54 schestowitz[TR3]; they hire liars
19:54 starstreak; https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/inside-microsoft/cross-disability/neurodiversityhiring
19:54 TR Bot; Hiring | Global Diversity and Inclusion at Microsoft
19:54 reptilian_thrills; microsoft has attacked the neurodiverse more than helping them
19:54 reptilian_thrills; but as long as they do both people assume good faith
19:54 MinceR; i guess neurodiversity at MICROS~1 means that they occasionally hire a competent person
19:54 starstreak; i didnt really WANT to work for them, my employment coach made me
19:54 reptilian_thrills; theyre nazis-- they support eugenis
19:54 MinceR; (and then prevent them from achieving anything anyway)
19:54 reptilian_thrills; my employment coach made me <- fair
19:54 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> (and then prevent them from achieving anything anyway)
19:55 reptilian_thrills; ^ like when obama made hillary chief of whatever
19:55 reptilian_thrills; if they cant beat you, they hire you.
19:55 reptilian_thrills; then they can control you
19:55 MinceR; drobbins made the mistake of working for them
19:55 MinceR; i doubt he achieved anything there
19:55 mjg59_; "If you install the update that prevents known vulnerable bootloaders from booting, known vulnerable bootloaders will no longer boot" - why is this a surprising outcome?
19:55 reptilian_thrills; microsoft purchases things to kill them off
19:55 phanes; the way you fix the neurodiversity problem in tech is to create a culture that accomodates the neurodiverse without first needing to know that the behaviours they're dealing with are not neurotypical. that's not a priority. the image of being neurodiverse is currently more important than actually being friendly to the neurodiverse.
19:56 reptilian_thrills; people who are considering employment should ask themselves if they are in a similar situation.
19:56 reptilian_thrills; you have to sign agreements to nda and non-compete
19:56 reptilian_thrills; unless they had to do away with those
19:56 reptilian_thrills; but they can simulate them even if they cant have them on paper
19:56 reptilian_thrills; they are anti-competitive and monopolistic
19:56 phanes; reptilian_thrills, eh, slow down a bit. most fortune list companies make you sign NDAs and/or non-competes if you have those kinds of skills.
19:56 phanes; it is just part of the trade
19:56 reptilian_thrills; you work for them-- you do what yorue told-- or you get treated like an enemy
19:56 schestowitz[TR3]; http://techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/
19:57 TR Bot; Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental | Techrights
19:57 reptilian_thrills; <phanes> reptilian_thrills, eh, slow down a bit. most fortune list companies make you sign NDAs and/or non-competes if you have those kinds of skills. <- im saying its different when microsoft does it
19:57 reptilian_thrills; im not saying its the same when anyone else does it.
19:57 phanes; no it's really not
19:57 phanes; it's different when ROBERT HALF does it
19:57 reptilian_thrills; of course it is. if you want to be naive about that its nothing to do with me
19:57 reptilian_thrills; <phanes> it's different when ROBERT HALF does i <- lol ok
19:57 phanes; the one MSFT uses is way kinder to intellectual property developed in your free time than the one Robert Half uses
19:58 reptilian_thrills; <phanes> the one MSFT uses is way kinder to intellectual property developed in your free time than the one Robert Half uses <- this sounds like an exception that proves a rule
19:58 reptilian_thrills; or rather a minor exception that proves nothing at all
19:58 schestowitz[TR3]; <reptilian_thrills> my employment coach made me <- fair
19:58 schestowitz[TR3]; coach is not boss
19:58 reptilian_thrills; like "america isnt becoming draconian, look at china!"
19:58 reptilian_thrills; we can totally agree that china is worse
19:58 phanes; about once a year i have a conversation with RH's legal team because they want to bring me into some project they fucked up and their legal team won't budge on their non-compete agreement wording
19:59 reptilian_thrills; but this is whataboutism
20:00 reptilian_thrills; what about robert half! (ive never even heard of him)
20:01 schestowitz[TR3]; http://techrights.org/2010/02/17/choice-versus-condition/
20:01 TR Bot; Nobody is Born a Microsoft Employee | Techrights
20:01 phanes; how can you be this far along in the game and not know who the major players are
20:01 reptilian_thrills; similar question: why should i care who robert half is
20:02 reptilian_thrills; maybe the big leagues arent interesting to me because of various scandals that happen less (or COULD happen less) is minor leagues
20:02 reptilian_thrills; of course thats not entirely true. theyre still interesting.
20:02 reptilian_thrills; even so, the argument that microsoft isnt bad because robert half is worse is pretty hilarious
20:02 phanes; i mean
20:03 phanes; there's an ocean of sandgrain companies that form an aggregate of the industry but the core nerves need to be identified if you want to compete with the big hitters
20:03 reptilian_thrills; im more interested in the plays than the players
20:04 TR News; "Note: Access Now co-signed this letter along with Electronic Frontier Foundation, Software Freedom Law Center, India, and other organisations and expert individuals." https://www.accessnow.org/india-telecommunications-bill-encryption/
20:04 TR Bot; International coalition calls for withdrawal of Draft Indian Telco Bill: provisions threaten end-to-end encryption - Access Now
20:04 reptilian_thrills; sure the players are relevant, but what has robert half done that should interest ME
20:04 phanes; ok, but players gonna play
20:04 phanes; who plays is important because players tend to make plays with a theme
20:04 phanes; and understanding that theme requires knowledge of the players
20:04 reptilian_thrills; i dont disagree
20:04 TR News; "Access Now signed this letter and joins the call of other organisations for the Indian government to withdraw the Draft Telecommunication Bill, 2022 because its authorizes government to order internet shutdowns in violation of human rights." https://www.accessnow.org/india-telecommunications-bill-shutdowns/
20:04 TR Bot; India's Draft Telecommunication Bill empowers gov't to impose internet shutdowns - Access Now
20:04 reptilian_thrills; well, i dont think you need to know every player to follow the game
20:05 phanes; not every player no
20:05 reptilian_thrills; but i will give you that the more you know about the players-- it helps at least
20:05 reptilian_thrills; but either way, i learn new things all the tim
20:05 reptilian_thrills; time
20:05 phanes; some mom and pop shop that does consultant staffing isn't going to be required knowledge no
20:05 reptilian_thrills; what i dont know is why robert half is important
20:05 TR News; Rust is not even consistent. Improvised crap. Do we want Linus build with that? https://blog.m-ou.se/rust-standard/
20:05 TR Bot; Do we need a "Rust Standard"? - Mara's Blog
20:05 phanes; but not knowing who battelle is what role they play in national security is a knowledge shortcoming if you're going to be 1337 or even pretend to be
20:06 phanes; *or what role
20:06 reptilian_thrills; i dont claim to be 1337, that might be your thing
20:06 MinceR; who's battelle and why does robert half matter?
20:06 reptilian_thrills; if i did claim to be 1337 that would be like throwing a grenade at my foot
20:06 reptilian_thrills; anyone who actually is would just laugh
20:06 TR News; Coming soon: Microsoft-bribed publishers blaming "Linux" every time Rust "moves fast and breaks thing"
20:06 phanes; where tf am i, like how do you y'all not know who these companies are
20:07 MinceR; sounds like we're not getting any answers tonight
20:07 reptilian_thrills; /me has known some important people
20:07 reptilian_thrills; but they were from another time
20:07 phanes; with the topics you complain about i'd assume these would be common names
20:07 reptilian_thrills; im sure phanes can name drop. ive sat 2 feet from buzz aldrin having breakfast
20:07 TR News; Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc https://www.khronos.org/blog/the-recently-upstreamed-spir-v-backend-to-be-discussed-at-the-2022-llvm-developers-meeting Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.khronos.org/blog/the-recently-upstreamed-spir-v-backend-to-be-discussed-at-the-2022-llvm-developers-meeting
20:07 TR Bot; Khronos Blog - The Khronos Group Inc
20:08 reptilian_thrills; but i still dont know who fucking robert half is
20:08 phanes; reptilian_thrills, i actually avoid namedropping alot, like i'll omit a company if they're a current client when this topic comes up
20:08 MinceR; "Robert Half, formally referred to as Robert Half International Inc., is a global human resource consulting firm based in Menlo Park and San Ramon, California, founded in 1948."
20:08 reptilian_thrills; i guess what my point is, is
20:08 TR News; A Vulkanised Webinar: Exploring the Latest Updates to the Vulkan API and Ecosystem https://www.khronos.org/events/cross-vendor-mesh-shading-with-vulkan
20:08 reptilian_thrills; you cant know everyone. not even everyone that matters. well, maybe you can
20:08 TR Bot; A Vulkanised Webinar: Exploring the Latest Updates to the Vulkan API and Ecosystem - The Khronos Group Inc
20:08 *MinceR imagines the Namedropping Alot
20:08 phanes; namedropping is never useful, people who could should not as knowing people is most useful with a phone call or an email
20:08 reptilian_thrills; maybe i paid too much attention to lennart and not enough to other players
20:09 reptilian_thrills; namedropping is never usefu <- maybe it can make a point in the middle of a ridiculous conversation
20:09 reptilian_thrills; but i wouldnt be TOO sure
20:10 TR News; Rust apologists: stop ranting about Rust. It's still in an experimental state of flux, unlike Linux. Also: how COOL would it be if we stuffed our playground INTO Linux!
20:10 reptilian_thrills; <MinceR> ACTION imagines the Namedropping Alot <- im picturing station from bill & teds
20:11 phanes; eh, i dont get it. when i think of namedropping i think of matt saying "I used to work for Red Hat and then I took an arrow to the knee", like that means something unique in these circles
20:11 TR News; Also Rust: people aren't leaving Rust. We don't even like them. Screw them! Hey, we have a CoC! We don't need you anyway!!
20:11 reptilian_thrills; /me is surprised phanes knows who robert half is when he has so much time for mjg
20:11 phanes; That CoC isn't going to write code
20:11 reptilian_thrills; i still think your project is interesting but i wish it moved forward
20:11 phanes; reptilian_thrills, all of my projects are like that. People think I only focus on the one project.
20:11 TR News; Leadership of Rust leaves as often as Linux releases an RC
20:11 reptilian_thrills; no, i can relate. really.
20:12 reptilian_thrills; any person who has done more than one thing ever should be able to
20:12 MinceR; does rust need code written, though?
20:12 phanes; what I do is have about 30 different projects at the same time, about half of which are public or visible outside of my office, and cycle the kryptonian laser vision through them one at a time, stopping the clock until I hit a milestone, and then move on. I play a very long game.
20:13 reptilian_thrills; timesharing
20:13 reptilian_thrills; each project gets a slice
20:13 reptilian_thrills; but its not a fast cycle
20:13 phanes; i am currently re-evaluating my scheduling with it because i feel this mode is very slow for end to end delivery
20:13 reptilian_thrills; because when humans divide their attention too thinly it gets sloppy
20:13 phanes; it takes like 10 years to get a product out this way
20:13 TR News; Red Hat's biggest is the client is DoD, including NSA. Do you trust Red Hat with ciphers?? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/post-quantum-cryptography-hash-based-signatures
20:13 TR Bot; Post-quantum cryptography: Hash-based signatures
20:14 *phanes trusts RH with ciphers
20:14 reptilian_thrills; yeah, devuan should look at debian because the latter (or former if you like) took like a year to get out
20:14 reptilian_thrills; then again, they had more people. then again...
20:14 phanes; just because it sells to federal doesn't mean it's insecure
20:15 MinceR; it's insecure because it's willing to make its own code insecure in service of the NSA
20:15 phanes; huh? evidence?
20:15 phanes; i call bs on that
20:16 MinceR; http://techrights.org/2015/07/08/red-hat-nsa/
20:16 TR Bot; Red Hat and NSA: This is Not News | Techrights
20:16 phanes; noting in mind that fips mode and DISA STIG hardening with openscap are broken currently in Rocky, CentOS, and work perfectly in RH
20:17 reptilian_thrills; honestly i think gov approval IMPLIES compliance with nsa-imposed weakness
20:17 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_EC_DRBG
20:17 TR Bot; Dual_EC_DRBG - Wikipedia
20:17 reptilian_thrills; OBVIOUSLY
20:17 reptilian_thrills; "we want a contract"
20:17 reptilian_thrills; "ok we have some requirments"
20:17 reptilian_thrills; "we cant do that"
20:17 reptilian_thrills; "nice talking with you"
20:17 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
20:17 TR Bot; Security-Enhanced Linux - Wikipedia
20:17 TR News; Red Hat's site seems to be blocking wget now. Seems like further escalation. After putting proprietary JavaScript in a lot of the sites, in effect blocking Free software users from merely entering some Red Hat sites.
20:18 reptilian_thrills; but youre right, theres no way the government can ask such things of a contractor
20:18 TR News; With ICBM, Red Hat goes to the death camp
20:18 MinceR; just use wget -U FuckYou
20:18 reptilian_thrills; especially a 2bn company (or whatever you like) at rh scale
20:18 reptilian_thrills; but now theyre owned by ibm
20:18 reptilian_thrills; i can vouch for ibm on this
20:18 phanes; this is a very silly and stupid thing to suggest based on the evidence. your assertion is that RH may be insecure with NSA backdoors because the NSA uses it in their datacenters (and now clouds) to secure their operations and infrastructure.
20:18 reptilian_thrills; theres no way ibm would ever compromise their integrity to appease a nationstate.
20:18 reptilian_thrills; not again, anyway.
20:18 MinceR; the NSA is known to shit in their own well, so to speak
20:19 TR News; Red Hat projects are just "PRODUCTS" and "SOLUTIONS" now. Welcome back, Novell(R)!
20:19 reptilian_thrills; your assertion is that RH may be insecure with NSA backdoors because the NSA uses it in their datacenters (and now clouds) to secure their operations and infrastructure. <- no
20:19 MinceR; and afaict they've collaborated with redhat to push selinux into the official kernel
20:19 reptilian_thrills; its being asserted that people who want big contracts will concessions to big clients
20:19 reptilian_thrills; which of course-- never happens
20:19 reptilian_thrills; and when theyve already been caught doing it
20:19 TR News; Carbon Dating HTML gemini://marginalia.nu/log/66-carbon-dating.gmi
20:19 phanes; selinux was absolutely an NSA product that merged into the kernel tree and I think it was a huge mistake that was counterproductive to its intent
20:19 reptilian_thrills; then accusing them of this is only doubly absurd :)
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:20 TR News; Red hat: will the last person to leave turn the gas off?
20:20 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu: vRouter, GAFAM, and Elektrobit http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_vRouter_GAFAM_and_Elektrobit.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Ubuntu_vRouter_GAFAM_and_Elektrobit.gmi
20:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu: vRouter, GAFAM, and Elektrobit
20:20 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat: Security, TPM, Loss of Clients, and Vendor Lock-in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Security_TPM_Loss_of_Clients_and_Vendor_Lock_in.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Security_TPM_Loss_of_Clients_and_Vendor_Lock_in.gmi
20:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat: Security, TPM, Loss of Clients, and Vendor Lock-in
20:20 MinceR; "In the context of criticism of the Intel ME and AMD Secure Technology it has been pointed out that the National Security Agency (NSA) budget request for 2013 contained a Sigint Enabling Project with the goal to "Insert vulnerabilities into commercial encryption systems, IT systems, " and it has been conjectured that Intel ME and AMD Secure Technology might be part of that program." --
20:20 phanes; where RH will fail is when they try to containerize everything because they've seriously fucked up RH satellite infrastructure
20:20 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
20:20 TR Bot; Intel Management Engine - Wikipedia
20:21 phanes; and by fail i mean, RH will bankrupt themselves trying to make their pile of shits work right after they containerize all their offerings and force non-monolithic architecture on clients who are more interested in fuzztech than stability
20:21 TR News; "Since its release in late 2020, PHP 8 has been a game changer. In this tutorial, I will walk through all the latest features with real-world examples of when I might choose to use them." https://laravel-news.com/modern-php-features-explained
20:21 TR Bot; Modern PHP features explained - PHP 8.0 and 8.1 | Laravel News
20:22 reptilian_thrills; and by fail i mean, RH will bankrupt themselves trying to make their pile of shits work right <- FINGERS CROSSED
20:22 reptilian_thrills; but then, if ibm kills rh theyll be like "aww, so sad"
20:22 reptilian_thrills; and roy will be like HAHA, IBM IS DEAD NOW!
20:22 TR News; FCC Votes To Strengthen Network Resiliency in Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/fcc-votes-to-strengthen-network-resiliency-in-puerto-rico-u-s-virgin-islands/ Source: Public Knowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/fcc-votes-to-strengthen-network-resiliency-in-puerto-rico-u-s-virgin-islands/
20:22 TR Bot; FCC Votes To Strengthen Network Resiliency in Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands - Public Knowledge
20:22 MinceR; it would be nice if rh bankrupted itself and ibm
20:23 phanes; "we modernized. we had to fire all of our OS experts because they warned us not to use this, but we containerized everything and now have 3x as many people in our workforce to get the same level of stability we had with monolithic architecture and it's breaking our business models" which will eventually have an impact on RH revenue
20:23 reptilian_thrills; /me hopes phanes doesnt work for rh
20:23 phanes; as well as, unfortunately, national security and critical infrastructure
20:23 schestowitz[TR3]; reptilian_thrills: https://datastorageasean.com/daily-news/big-blues-big-problem-ibms-unstoppable-decline
20:23 reptilian_thrills; i mean w/e, but still
20:23 TR Bot; Data and Storage News from around South East Asia
20:23 schestowitz[TR3]; https://datastorageasean.com/sites/default/files/images/1ibm.png
20:23 phanes; why is that reptilian_thrills (i mean i wouldn't work for them, but just curious)
20:24 schestowitz[TR3]; https://www.forbesindia.com/blog/technology/h1b-visa-norms-whats-good-for-ibm-need-not-be-good-for-america/
20:24 TR Bot; H1B Visa Norms: What's Good For IBM Need Not Be Good For America... - Forbes India Blogs
20:24 schestowitz[TR3]; https://www.forbesindia.com/fbimages/900x600/proportional/png/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/chart_1-20.png
20:24 reptilian_thrills; i dunno, can you refute any claims made by edwin black? i mean i dont think "orchestrated the holocaust" is "cancel culture" but maybe you have a counter to this
20:24 reptilian_thrills; /me still finds cancel culture dishonest and excessive, for starters
20:25 reptilian_thrills; i mean i dont know how much of ibms empire is built on the third reich. they were certainly doing well already before that happened
20:25 TR News; FCC Moves To Leverage 12 GHz Band To Further Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/fcc-moves-to-leverage-12-ghz-band-to-further-close-digital-divide/ Source: Public Knowledge | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//publicknowledge.org/fcc-moves-to-leverage-12-ghz-band-to-further-close-digital-divide/
20:25 TR Bot; FCC Moves To Leverage 12 GHz Band To Further Close Digital Divide - Public Knowledge
20:25 reptilian_thrills; /me tells mike godwin to stfu
20:27 phanes; reptilian_thrills, if I were you I'd be more worried about Beyer or the US Government after the war than some cooky journalist's conspiracy theories
20:27 reptilian_thrills; Beyer <- third reich, now owns monsanto
20:27 phanes; ^ actual confirmable truth
20:27 reptilian_thrills; or the US Government <- we were just talking about them
20:28 reptilian_thrills; ge <- third reich, owns 1/5 of mainstream media
20:28 TR News; "Age-stratified infection fatality rate of COVID-19 in the non-elderly informed from pre-vaccination national seroprevalence studies" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/27/pre-vaccine-fatality-rates/
20:28 TR Bot; Blog Archive Pre-vaccine fatality rates lower than previously thought
20:28 phanes; edwin black's opinion pieces on IBM are about as supported as starstreak's flat earth lizard people theories
20:28 reptilian_thrills; siemens <- third reich, near monopoly on industrial control systems
20:28 reptilian_thrills; edwin black's opinion pieces on IBM are about as supported as starstreak's flat earth lizard people theories <- fair enough
20:28 reptilian_thrills; /me lifts it up to see where the argument is
20:28 reptilian_thrills; i mean even one thing he presented as fact that isnt?
20:29 reptilian_thrills; im not asking you to PROVE him wrong, just to pick one item and say "no"
20:29 starstreak; phanes, i don't believe the earth is flat
20:29 phanes; well you asked if i'd refute it, i mean, there isn't anything really to refute when the thing being refuted is some washed up journalist saying edgy things to stir anti-antisemetic sentiment without backing facts or documentation to keep the bills paid
20:30 reptilian_thrills; to stir anti-antisemetic sentiment <- are you saying edwin black was being anti-semitic by calling ibm nazis
20:30 reptilian_thrills; or are you still talking about icke (who borrows from the protocols of elders of zion so accusations of anti-semitism are being begged for)
20:31 phanes; no anti-antisemetic is when you try to exploit the public's desire for justice against anti-semetic actions by fabricating the illusion of anti-semetic behaviour by a target for the purpose of generating sensationalism and views
20:31 reptilian_thrills; no anti-antisemetic is when you try to exploit the public's desire for justice against anti-semetic actions by fabricating the illusion of anti-semetic behaviour by a target for the purpose of generating sensationalism and view <- that is the most interesting definition ive heard before
20:31 phanes; it's the early 2000s equivelant of "you'll never believe what this celebrity said about the queen of england"
20:31 reptilian_thrills; fair enough i suppose
20:32 phanes; right next to the penis enlargement pill ads when you're looking for boobs on the internet
20:33 TR News; Intel is promoting DRM in Linux, AGAIN https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Iris-Protected-Content avoid Intel. Let them rot. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences
20:33 TR Bot; Open-Source OpenGL Driver Adds Support For "Protected Content" - Phoronix
20:33 TR Bot; Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights
20:33 TR News; "4k streaming works just fine on sites that don't insist on using DRM. "piracy" is always the technically and morally superior option over complying with corporate copyright bullshit." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1354414-intel-s-open-source-opengl-driver-adds-support-for-protected-content
20:33 TR Bot; Open-Source OpenGL Driver Adds Support For "Protected Content" - Phoronix Forums
20:35 TR News; No love for Intel here, to say the least... Intel hates freedom, loves Microsoft and the copyright cartel which is fleecing artists https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1354414-intel-s-open-source-opengl-driver-adds-support-for-protected-content
20:35 phanes; "piracy" is always the technically and morally superior option over complying with corporate copyright bullshit. <---- 1000% agreed
20:36 TR News; "We regret to inform you that during the 6.4.0 release, we were attacked by release goblins." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-for-python-6.4.0.1-release
20:36 TR Bot; Qt for Python: the 6.4.0.1 release, what?
20:37 phanes; software piracy should be such a rampant and common practice with so many layers of tool support that companies that use DRM should find the winrar license model more profitable
20:38 starstreak; of course a 33rd degree mason would make up shit like flat earth to make me look like a kook
20:38 phanes; what "33rd degree mason" is making shit up about you, im confused
20:38 starstreak; you
20:39 phanes; lol I have not gotten my 33rd degree
20:39 starstreak; oh
20:39 starstreak; i thought you said you were, my mistake
20:39 phanes; nope just 32. it's a rare lifetime achievement to get the 33rd
20:39 TR News; "FOSSlife Team" promotes BS buzzwords for Adrian Bridgwater and other corporate shills https://www.fosslife.org/whats-edge-developer see Adrian Bridgwater: http://techrights.org/2022/09/17/cheapening-linux-brand-by-hijacking-it/
20:39 TR Bot; Whats an Edge Developer?
20:40 TR Bot; Linux Foundation: We Spend Money Buying the Media, Authoring Self-Serving PR by People Who Reject Linux | Techrights
20:40 starstreak; there is higher than the 33rd degree
20:40 starstreak; 66 and 99
20:40 phanes; lol
20:40 reptilian_thrills; "69, dudes!"
20:40 phanes; was that carved by a lizard neanderthal on a subterranean cave
20:41 starstreak; the neanderthals aren't lizards
20:41 starstreak; its a war between the neanderthals and the lizards
20:41 reptilian_thrills; /me thinks it sounds like ms-13 getting mixed up with freemasons
20:41 reptilian_thrills; i mean both like pythagoras
20:41 reptilian_thrills; but who DOESNT like pythagoras, really
20:42 schestowitz[TR3]; well, at least insanity gets treated as a subject if humour..
20:42 reptilian_thrills; "catholic church" OK BUT BESIDES THEM
20:42 schestowitz[TR3]; *of
20:43 schestowitz[TR3]; it is, after all, insanity, full stop, anything else is euphemism
20:43 reptilian_thrills; tesla liked pythagoras
20:43 TR News; Sounds like either paid spam or a step in the wrong direction https://linuxtechlab.com/what-is-the-best-way-to-convert-pdf-to-word-for-free/
20:43 TR Bot; is the best way to convert PDF to Word for free? - LinuxTechLab
20:43 reptilian_thrills; probably the reason the first motor had 3 cores on its rotor (unless thats a myth)
20:44 reptilian_thrills; it could have had any number, 2 works but not very well
20:44 TR News; A lot ot today's blogs are just sponsored placement for horrible garbage. It gets worse every year on the WWW.
20:44 reptilian_thrills; he said it came to him in a dream. this was later referenced in back to the future when doc brown drew the flux capacitor
20:45 TR News; An today we learned that Rust openly advocates against consistent, predictable APIs; unstable... right into the kernel. Because of persistent lobbying and mobbing.
20:47 starstreak; the reptilians are making the planet warmer so they don't have to live underground anymore. crickets are being put in our food so they have more options. reptilians like bugs.
20:47 schestowitz[TR3]; cracktalk not here please
20:47 schestowitz[TR3]; it's not the humour channel :-)
20:47 starstreak; fair enough
20:48 starstreak; if anyone wants to talk conspiracy, there is #conspiracytheory
20:51 TR News; (NEW): [Tutorial] #HowTo Install Oracle VirtualBox in Ubuntu and Linux Mint http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/_Tutorial_How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Ubuntu_and_Linux_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/_Tutorial_How_to_Install_Oracle_VirtualBox_in_Ubuntu_and_Linux_.gmi
20:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines [Tutorial] How to Install Oracle VirtualBox in Ubuntu and Linux Mint
20:53 DaemonFC; I found some last day organic chicken breasts and froze them.
20:53 DaemonFC; You have to get 25% off to get the regular price from last year.
20:53 TR News; Finding it hard to get over the fact that Rust's attitude as a project is totally not compatible with GNU and Linux
20:53 DaemonFC; 8% inflation, says Biden.
20:53 DaemonFC; Getting better every day!
20:53 schestowitz[TR3]; chicken brast base price is higjh
20:53 schestowitz[TR3]; organic more so
20:53 schestowitz[TR3]; 25% off would still be a lot
20:53 DaemonFC; Yeah, but the organic is better quality.
20:53 schestowitz[TR3]; marrrginally
20:54 DaemonFC; You get the regular stuff in the yellow package and like, half of it is water.
20:54 DaemonFC; They use water to bulk it up and cheat you when you get to the cash register and scan it.
20:54 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], Ever thrown Organic chicken breast in the slow cooker vs. "regular" and come back to it in 4-5 hours?
20:55 DaemonFC; The "regular" recipe is swimming in "solution" and the Organic isn't.
20:55 phanes; yeah our food supply chains are fucked
20:55 phanes; capitalism all the way, but some things need to be more tightly controlled, like food pipelines, medical access, education access
20:56 DaemonFC; So it's sleight of hand. Most of the time the cheap stuff costs more because by the time you get to the real net weight of the chicken, it's not nearly what you paid for.
20:56 TR News; Mozilla spying on Firefox users, but worry not! It's OPEN... in MICROSOFT'S PROPRIETARY GitHub https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/this-week-in-glean-page-load-data-three-ways-or-how-expensive-are-events/
20:56 TR Bot; This Week in Glean: Page Load Data, Three Ways (Or, How Expensive Are Events?) chuttenblog
20:56 phanes; and most everything else needs to be lawless and dangerous
20:56 phanes; like cars
20:56 phanes; you shouldn't need a license or registration
20:56 DaemonFC; If it "contains up to 28% of a solution" and it's $3.19 a pound, then that means you're paying $3.19 a pound for that 28% that's water.
20:56 phanes; or be required to buy a certain kind of car
20:56 TR News; Mozilla = spying company:"It gets done a lot by each and every one of our users, and so you can imagine that data about pageloads is of important business interest to us." https://chuttenblog.wordpress.com/2022/10/27/this-week-in-glean-page-load-data-three-ways-or-how-expensive-are-events/
20:57 DaemonFC; So they just cheated you out of 89 cents for each pound of "chicken".
20:57 TR News; Mozilla behind your shoulders: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BUY TODAY??? http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/mozilla-no-respect-for-consent/ http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/mozilla-adware/
20:57 TR Bot; Mozilla Changes Firefox Settings/Themes Without Asking | Techrights
20:57 phanes; so grow your own chickens
20:57 TR Bot; Mozilla Keeps Changing Users Settings to Blast Misinformation (or Present Dishonest Ads) at Them in New Tabs | Techrights
20:57 DaemonFC; And it really turns out to be $4.08 per pound of actual chicken anyway.
20:57 phanes; raise your own cows, make your own milk and butter
20:58 phanes; oh wait, you can't, because you need to be a millionaire to START a farm
20:58 DaemonFC; If you get the Organic stuff on last day, you pay about $4 a pound and get chicken, because the law doesn't let them adulterate it like this.
20:58 DaemonFC; And then it's a lot more tender as well.
20:59 DaemonFC; phanes, Before there were any federal regulations on food, people got sick all the time from food, especially in the cities.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 115.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 119.98
20:59 DaemonFC; It was quite common to buy meat and fish right out of a barrel, preserved with salt or maybe some ice. You didn't know how it was handled or what you were actually buying.
20:59 reptilian_thrills; plus youd have to lease it from fucking monsanto
20:59 reptilian_thrills; who thanks to gates now has a monopoly on THAT too
20:59 DaemonFC; The slaughterhouses were bad enough at the source. They'd throw diseased animal carcasses in there and mislabel them.
21:00 reptilian_thrills; (or im exaggerating. fucking hopefully)
21:00 DaemonFC; They said.....
21:00 reptilian_thrills; farmhub
21:00 DaemonFC; Mary had a little lamb, and when she saw it sicken, she sent it off to packing town, and then they called it "chicken".
21:00 reptilian_thrills; <phanes> capitalism all the way <- jesus goat fucking christ
21:01 DaemonFC; Darren Bailey owns a farm.
21:01 DaemonFC; They're trying to make it sound like a scandal that he got as much federal and state farm aid as anyone with a farm does.
21:01 DaemonFC; His farm wouldn't be profitable without it, because most aren't.
21:02 DaemonFC; This is a mess that the federal government has made with subsidies and price support laws.
21:02 DaemonFC; If his competitor is taking them, he has to as well in this environment.
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21:02 DaemonFC; It's not Darren Bailey's fault that the feds have created this huge mess of perverse incentives and price support laws.
21:03 DaemonFC; This is 100% weapons grade bullshit, cooked up by the J.B. Pritzker campaign.
21:03 DaemonFC; Billionaire heir to a hotel fortune. Hasn't worked a day in his life.
21:03 DaemonFC; Routed federal COVID money to prop up his own hotel investments.
21:04 DaemonFC; Why isn't anyone talking about how as Governor he made sure that the illegal immigrants and homeless were staying in Hyatt hotels with federal COVID money and it was only after his hotels were fully booked that anyone else got money?
21:05 DaemonFC; He also wasn't taking care to be a good steward of that money. He was billing the federal program "market rates" for a Hyatt room. He wasn't lowering the nightly rate to the motel off the interstate to save taxpayers money.
21:06 DaemonFC; That's what being a politician in Illinois gets you. Put into a position to get bribes and route government (taxpayer) money to yourself.
21:06 DaemonFC; Then you complain when a farmer who grows food for the nation during a hyperinflationary crisis gets a pittance from the USDA that any farmer would.
21:07 DaemonFC; This behavior is disgusting and I can't for the life of me see why Bailey isn't doing something with this in his ads.
21:07 DaemonFC; Pritzker's ads have all gone negative. It's not upbeat at all. He knows nobody likes him and he's trying to scare people.
21:08 DaemonFC; It tries to paint Illinois as being a Klan state if Darren Bailey becomes the governor when nothing of the sort would happen.
21:10 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
21:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
21:11 DaemonFC; Like, take the South, or Indiana. The governor doesn't get in and get immediately boxed in by a legislature that's 77% Democrats and 5 Constitutional state officers who have half of the executive power.
21:11 DaemonFC; That's where Bailey will be, if he even wins.
21:14 starstreak; <reptilian_thrills> farmhub <- im not kick shaming, is that a porn site for farmers?
21:14 starstreak; kink shaming*
21:16 TR News; http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/gnunet-0-18-0/
21:16 TR Bot; Links 27/10/2022: Zorin OS 16.2 and GNUnet 0.18.0 | Techrights
21:16 schestowitz[TR3]; farmville
21:16 TR News; Links 27/10/2022: Zorin OS 16.2 and GNUnet 0.18.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/gnunet-0-18-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/gnunet-0-18-0/
21:16 schestowitz[TR3]; farm-veal
21:16 schestowitz[TR3]; for people who love eating kids
21:17 TR News; (NEW): Software: New in PCLinuxOS, Some More Spying in Firefox http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Software_New_in_PCLinuxOS_Some_More_Spying_in_Firefox.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Software_New_in_PCLinuxOS_Some_More_Spying_in_Firefox.gmi
21:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Software: New in PCLinuxOS, Some More Spying in Firefox
21:17 starstreak; schestowitz[TR3], i dont think anyone eats kids, they just drain their adrenachrome
21:17 schestowitz[TR3]; some people order baby cows
21:17 schestowitz[TR3]; tghey claim it tastes better
21:18 starstreak; oh baby cows
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:22 reptilian_thrills; <starstreak> <reptilian_thrills> farmhub <- im not kick shaming, is that a porn site for farmers? <- idk, not yet?
21:22 reptilian_thrills; i mean if epsteins landscapers banded together...
21:22 reptilian_thrills; idk
21:22 reptilian_thrills; epstein landscaping co
21:23 reptilian_thrills; "those weeds wont kill themselves!"
21:25 TR News; Gotta find something to do next gemini://eph.smol.pub/1666883181 "Now that Ive been released from that garbagefire of an organization, I need to find something to do. Its been about a week since I was let go, so I think Id like to have some travel plans set by this time next week."
21:27 TR News; slashdot should have link directly to the original, not the Conde Nast garbage https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/10/27/1920206/oldweird-laptops-sought-to-help-test-linux-kernel-backlight-drivers
21:27 TR Bot; 'Old/Weird Laptops' Sought To Help Test Linux Kernel Backlight Drivers - Slashdot
21:31 TR News; [no, he is NOT dead] Paul Grahams Legacy | I, Cringely https://www.cringely.com/2022/10/27/paul-grahams-legacy/ Source: I Cringely | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cringely.com/2022/10/27/paul-grahams-legacy/
21:31 TR Bot; Grahams Legacy | I, Cringely
21:36 TR News; KDE 5.26 gets a second point release (yes, already) The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/26/KDE_Plasma_5_26_2_Disables_Animated_Wallpaper_Feature_on_X11_Du.shtml
21:36 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Plasma 5.26.2 Disables Animated Wallpaper Feature on X11 Due to Severe Memory Leak
21:37 TR News; Dir Command in Linux [Examples] https://linuxhandbook.com/dir-command/ Source: Linux Handbook | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhandbook.com/dir-command/
21:37 TR Bot; Dir Command in Linux [Examples]
21:37 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 23.04 Codename Revealed And Its a Lucently Likeable Label http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Likeable_Label.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Likeable_Label.gmi
21:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 23.04 Codename Revealed And Its a Lucently Likeable Label
21:44 TR News; More Problems With Googles Insecure Apps Alert and SeaMonkey Mail | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/google-fake-security/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/google-fake-security/
21:44 TR Bot; More Problems With Googles Insecure Apps Alert and SeaMonkey Mail | Techrights
21:46 *includeals (~includeal@a94-132-138-11.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights
21:47 TR News; IWB correctly calls it "Work from home (WFH)" rather than "remote work", which is misleading propaganda of bosses who want workers under their "thumb" (and BOOT!) https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/the-latest-trends-in-work-from-home-wfh.html
21:47 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Latest Trends in Work from Home (WFH)
21:51 TR News; (NEW): 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Spotify Clients http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_GUI_Spotify_Clients.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_GUI_Spotify_Clients.gmi
21:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines 4 Best Free and Open Source GUI Spotify Clients
21:54 TR News; "But finally, I did find something positive to say. Ive been able to attend a number of meetings, including weekly lunch seminars, that pre-pandemic required me to drive for a few hours or catch a plane. In response to the pandemic, these meeting first changed from physical to online, and more recently to hybrid." https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/10/the-latest-trends-in-work-from-home-wfh.html
22:00 TR News; Performance reviews | Mardy http://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/10/performance-review.html Source: Alberto Mardegan | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//www.mardy.it/blog/2022/10/performance-review.html
22:00 TR Bot; Performance reviews | Mardy
22:01 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.3.gmi
22:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
22:01 TR News; LOL. "Director of Sustainability" in a Microsoft front group called OSI https://blog.opensource.org/all-things-open-post-event-blog/
22:01 TR Bot; All Things Open post event blog - Voices of Open Source
22:03 TR News; The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/osi-soft/
22:03 TR Bot; The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before | Techrights
22:04 TR News; "OAuth is turning into a major usability disaster and theres not any guarantee that simple UA hacks will keep SeaMonkey working. Google could actually resort to testing browser features that it knows are only in the latest supported applications." http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/google-fake-security/
22:05 TR News; The FakeSecurity(R) company Gulag lectures us on security https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/10/rc4-is-still-considered-harmful.html Gulag(R) considered Espionage
22:05 TR Bot; Project Zero: RC4 Is Still Considered Harmful
22:06 TR News; CLOWN security... for the CLOWNS ;-) https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/4-reasons-open-source-matters-for-cloud-security
22:06 TR Bot; 4 Reasons Open Source Matters for Cloud Security
22:07 TR News; 'Clown computing' = SECURITY BREACH. "Oh, dang!!! We have ALL OUR DATA and CUSTOMERS'/PATIENTS' DATA.... to that military from that other country! Who's responsible for this!!!???"
22:08 TR News; In 2013, the DoJ demanded that Microsoft grant it access to emails related to a narcotics case from a Hotmail account hosted in Ireland. http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
22:08 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
22:09 TR News; State of Korea in LibreOffice and promoting future plans, with DaeHyun Sung https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/27/writer-calc-sparklines-more-videos/ http://techrights.org/2019/05/17/south-korea-linux/
22:10 TR Bot; LibreOffice Conference 2022 videos: Localisation, Writer, Calc, Sparklines, Web Assembly and more - The Document Foundation Blog
22:10 TR Bot; Links 17/5/2019: South Koreas GNU/Linux Pivot, Linux 5.1.3 | Techrights
22:11 TR News; "To create a Kubernetes deployment, we must specify the matchLabels field, even though its value must match the one we specify in the template. But why? Cannot Kubernetes be smart enough to figure it out without us being explicit?" https://rpadovani.com/kubernetes-deployments much retraining will be needed when this fad passed over
22:11 TR Bot; Why K8s deployments need `matchLabels` keyword
22:12 TR News; "The focus of the new Ubuntu release, Gitea's surprising announcement, and Linux prepares to drop another architecture." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8974
22:13 TR News; ICBM Red Hat is Openwashing (!) a PATERNT cartel https://www.redhat.com/en/events/open5g
22:13 TR Bot; Red Hat Open5G
22:14 TR News; Code Comments - An original podcast from Red Hat https://www.redhat.com/en/code-comments-podcast?sc_cid=7013a000002q6eQAAQ Source: Red Hat Official site, worthless without JS. Cannot be accessed much...
22:14 TR Bot; Code Comments - An original podcast from Red Hat
22:16 TR News; Red Hat boasts about killing people https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/lockheed-martin-red-hat-collaborate-advance-artificial-intelligence-military-missions see http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/ and http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/regime-change-in-haiti/
22:16 TR Bot; Lockheed Martin, Red Hat Collaborate to Advance Artificial Intelligence for Military Missions
22:16 TR Bot; Giving Awards to Raytheon Wont Help Red Hats Image | Techrights
22:16 TR Bot; Chairman of the Board of Red Hat Explains He Was Introduced to GNU/Linux When It Helped His Regime Change in Haiti | Techrights
22:16 schestowitz[TR3]; reptilian_thrills: ^
22:16 schestowitz[TR3]; we came, we saw, he died
22:17 schestowitz[TR3]; HEY HI
22:17 schestowitz[TR3]; with lockmart
22:17 schestowitz[TR3]; incredible openness
22:17 schestowitz[TR3]; don't forget the share the modified bullets
22:18 TR News; killall -9 redhat. "The Lockheed Martin use case was about providing direct control to drones that had already been deployed but might need to have their mission altered in flight." https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/red-hat-shrinks-openshift-for-device-edge/2022/10/
22:18 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/red-hat-shrinks-openshift-for-device-edge/2022/10/ )
22:19 TR News; Women and children dismembered by bombs will be happy to know the missiles were backed by Red Hat(TM) OpenShift(R) at the back end. They will die happily.
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 TR News; Red Hat must be running out of clients and cases studies to boast about. Quite a few dumped the company, seeing what ICBM does to the products.
22:22 TR News; How to Run ChromeOS Flex From a USB Drive https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-chromeos-flex-from-usb/ Source: Make Use Of | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.makeuseof.com/how-to-use-chromeos-flex-from-usb/
22:22 TR Bot; How to Run ChromeOS Flex From a USB Drive
22:27 TR News; (NEW): TiVo Goes Back To The (Linux) Well http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/TiVo_Goes_Back_To_The_Linux_Well.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/TiVo_Goes_Back_To_The_Linux_Well.gmi
22:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines TiVo Goes Back To The (Linux) Well
22:30 TR News; Mark J Cox (@iamamoose): "OpenSSL 3.0.7 update to fix Critical CVE out next Tuesday 1300-1700UTC. Does not affect versions before 3.0." https://nitter.eu/iamamoose/status/1584908434855628800 Source: https://www.openssl.org/policies/general/security-policy.html
22:30 TR Bot; J Cox (@iamamoose): "OpenSSL 3.0.7 update to fix Critical CVE out next Tuesday 1300-1700UTC. Does not affect versions before 3.0. https://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2022-October/000238.html"|nitter.it
22:30 TR Bot; /policies/general/security-policy.html
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22:31 DaemonFC; https://www.npr.org/2022/10/27/1131907041/facebook-meta-campaign-finance-fine
22:31 TR Bot; Facebook parent is fined $25M for violating campaign finance disclosure law : NPR
22:31 TR News; Arch Linux Has A Problem And Git Is To Blame - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SLJUJezBsXc | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SLJUJezBsXc
22:31 TR Bot; Arch Linux Has A Problem And Git Is To Blame - Invidious
22:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], ^ Every little bit helps.
22:31 schestowitz[TR3]; NPR
22:31 schestowitz[TR3]; funded by
22:31 schestowitz[TR3]; FACCEBOOK
22:32 schestowitz[TR3]; Bill and LOLITA gates Foundation
22:32 schestowitz[TR3]; Microsoft
22:32 schestowitz[TR3]; listener supported lies
22:32 schestowitz[TR3]; "support us"
22:32 schestowitz[TR3]; "listen tol us:'
22:32 schestowitz[TR3]; "hat helps us attract more funding from BillG"
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22:34 TR News; 1) proprietary. 2) DRM. 3) NOT about Linux. https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-Big-Picture-Updated
22:34 TR Bot; Big Picture Mode Now Available For Testing In Latest Steam Beta - Phoronix
22:35 TR News; Things shrinking, not just items of food. Is capitalism failing us? https://itwire.com/mobility/china-3q-smartphone-shipments-better-than-2q,-but-down-on-2021.html
22:35 TR Bot; - China 3Q smartphone shipments better than 2Q, but down on 2021
22:39 TR News; "Ah yeah. Ooh ahh. Thats how it always starts. Then later theres the running and the screaming." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/27.2
22:40 TR News; "A nearby church is giving an improptude concert with the church bells. I wasn't aware that American churches even had bells anymore. How neat!" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/27.1
22:40 TR News; (NEW): fun with pygame Michael Ablassmeier http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/fun_with_pygame_Michael_Ablassmeier.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/fun_with_pygame_Michael_Ablassmeier.gmi
22:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines fun with pygame Michael Ablassmeier
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22:43 TR News; (NEW): Security: RC4, Clown Computing, and OpenSSL Headsup http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_RC4_Clown_Computing_and_OpenSSL_Headsup.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Security_RC4_Clown_Computing_and_OpenSSL_Headsup.gmi
22:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: RC4, Clown Computing, and OpenSSL Headsup
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22:50 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Arch Linux, Code Comments, Linux Action News, and LibreOffice http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Arch_Linux_Code_Comments_Linux_Action_News_and_LibreOffi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Videos_Arch_Linux_Code_Comments_Linux_Action_News_and_LibreOffi.gmi
22:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Arch Linux, Code Comments, Linux Action News, and LibreOffice
22:50 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Boasts About STRIKING Deals With Lockheed Martin (Wars) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Boasts_About_STRIKING_Deals_With_Lockheed_Martin_Wars.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Red_Hat_Boasts_About_STRIKING_Deals_With_Lockheed_Martin_Wars.gmi
22:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Boasts About STRIKING Deals With Lockheed Martin (Wars)
22:51 TR News; Zorin OS 16.2 Is Here as the Best Linux Distro for Windows Users http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/Zorin_OS_16_2_Arrives_as_a_Friendly_and_Accessible_Alternative_.shtml
22:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Zorin OS 16.2 Arrives as a Friendly and Accessible Alternative to Windows 11
22:52 TR News; KDE 5.26 gets a second point release (yes, already) The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/26/KDE_Plasma_5_26_2_Disables_Animated_Wallpaper_Feature_on_X11_Du.shtml
22:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Plasma 5.26.2 Disables Animated Wallpaper Feature on X11 Due to Severe Memory Leak
22:53 TR News; The USPTO Must Restore America Invents Act Proceedings - Patent Progress https://www.patentprogress.org/2022/10/the-uspto-must-restore-america-invents-act-proceedings/ Source: Josh Landau | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.patentprogress.org/2022/10/the-uspto-must-restore-america-invents-act-proceedings/
22:53 TR Bot; The USPTO Must Restore America Invents Act Proceedings - Patent Progress
22:54 TR News; "I will be watching closely in the coming months for formal rulemaking regarding the Fintiv factors and IPR more generally. Reforms that restore AIA proceedings to their original promise would encourage greater innovation and promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." Microsoft Vidal for software patents https://www.patentprogress.org/2022/10/the-uspto-must-restore-america-invents-act-proceedings/
22:54 TR News; Reminder: USPTO now run by former lawyer for MICROSOFT! Truly awful. http://techrights.org/wiki/USPTO#2022
22:54 TR Bot; USPTO - Techrights
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22:55 TR News; How much of this actually teaches you GNU programs and not Linux? https://www.suse.com/c/the-success-continues-6th-edition-of-getting-started-with-linux-available/
22:55 TR Bot; success continues - 6th edition of 'Getting started with Linux' available | SUSE Communities
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 114.38
23:01 TR News; TUXEDO Computers releases InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7 Laptop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/TUXEDO_InfinityBook_Pro_16_Gen7_Linux_Laptop_Launches_with_240H.shtml
23:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7 Linux Laptop Launches with 240Hz Display, DDR5 RAM
23:07 TR News; Links 27/10/2022: Ubuntu 23.04 is Lucently Likeable, OpenSSL Patch Coming | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/openssl-patch-coming/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/openssl-patch-coming/
23:07 TR Bot; Links 27/10/2022: Ubuntu 23.04 is Lucently Likeable, OpenSSL Patch Coming | Techrights
23:07 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/27/today_s_howtos.4.gmi
23:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
23:08 TR News; (UPDATED): TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7 Linux Laptop Launches with 240Hz Display, DDR5 RAM http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/TUXEDO_InfinityBook_Pro_16_Gen7_Linux_Laptop_Launches_with_240H.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/TUXEDO_InfinityBook_Pro_16_Gen7_Linux_Laptop_Launches_with_240H.gmi
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23:15 schestowitz[TR3]; wow, antony at 4:35
23:15 schestowitz[TR3]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WjZOMEad-fM
23:15 TR Bot; Manchester United vs Sheriff Tiraspol 3-0 | All Gals & Hghlghts | UEFA Europa League 2022/23 - Invidious
23:17 starstreak; I need more BD-R disks but they went up in price :(
23:17 starstreak; i remember when i could buy a 50 pack of 25GB disks for $25
23:17 starstreak; now they're $50
23:18 starstreak; $1 per 25GB disk
23:18 schestowitz[TR3]; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tkt-I5Puq_E
23:18 TR Bot; Antony does his trademark spin but then fails afterwards #footballgossips #antony #manutd #europa - Invidious
23:18 starstreak; clown storage is destroying BD-R prices
23:19 starstreak; BD-R disks are nice because I can get 25GB of data off my hard drive per disk
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-26.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 starstreak; 50GB BD-R disks are even worse in price
23:20 starstreak; i wish people still used optical disks
23:23 TR News; In Ukraine, market share of GNU/Linux increased to 3.25% this month? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-202111-202210
23:23 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Ukraine | Statcounter Global Stats
23:24 DaemonFC; So today I filed a lawsuit against an insurance company.
23:24 DaemonFC; That'll be interesting.
23:24 DaemonFC; Can't go into more details than that though.
23:25 DaemonFC; <starstreak> BD-R disks are nice because I can get 25GB of data off my hard drive per disk
23:25 DaemonFC; I've been meaning to buy some.
23:25 starstreak; I got a disk binder full of TV shows, stuff i want to keep but i don't want taking up space on my hard drive
23:25 DaemonFC; I can burn clean Blu Ray Discs without any of that DRM shit on them.
23:26 TR News; Windows dominant in only 2 very tiny countries in Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/africa/#monthly-202210-202210-map
23:26 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share Africa | Statcounter Global Stats
23:26 DaemonFC; Even if you buy commercial discs, you don't get to keep the movies forever.
23:26 DaemonFC; Some variant of "laser rot" always sets in, and if you don't back it up to something without DRM, you're going to lose it, eventually.
23:27 DaemonFC; They've improved the disc materials and the machinery that burns the discs at the factory a lot since they had LaserDisc with the "laser rot" that set in roughly 5-6 years after you bought the discs (which were VERY expensive).
23:27 DaemonFC; But nothing lasts forever.
23:27 DaemonFC; Now you may get 30 years.
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23:29 DaemonFC; It's possible you could get more. I mean, I have plenty of CDs that were pressed in the 1980s that still play fine. No obvious errors on them. If I rip from them, they still match AccurateRIP, so they can't have deviated from the factory in a way that affects the readout, yet.
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23:29 DaemonFC; But they are very old.
23:29 schestowitz[TR3]; Windows dominant in only 2 very tiny countries in Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/africa/#monthly-202210-202210-map
23:29 DaemonFC; But when they do, it's too late.
23:30 DaemonFC; One of the things about CDs that is maddening is that they have built-in error "correction" which is more like concealment.
23:30 DaemonFC; Where it replaces a defect with comfort noise or something if it encounters and error that's not too awfully bad.
23:30 DaemonFC; So it "hides" the fact that the disc is getting "sick" and potentially on the way out.
23:31 DaemonFC; When they set up the standard, this behavior made sense. You weren't supposed to rip them and the DRM was simply the fact that nobody had that much storage anyway.
23:32 DaemonFC; If they had the technology they do today, and they were going to make something like a CD, it would have Blu-Ray style DRM on them, and it would be horrific.
23:34 DaemonFC; They try this anyway, by not giving you any physical media that you can use offline and a lossy file that you can't have, just you download it every single time you listen.
23:34 DaemonFC; And all of this while you pay for the bandwidth needed to do it and so it crapfloods the Internet and runs up your phone and Internet bills.
23:34 DaemonFC; They call it Spotify or Apple Music.
23:35 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], Spotify down 14% yesterday!
23:35 DaemonFC; LOL
23:35 DaemonFC; What a shitshow. Serves them and their investors right.
23:36 DaemonFC; Meta Platforms, Inc. (META)
23:36 DaemonFC; 97.94-31.88 (-24.56%)
23:36 DaemonFC; LOL
23:37 DaemonFC; Down 24.56% on one day! One DAY! (Fakebook)
23:37 DaemonFC; Die motherfucker, die!
23:38 DaemonFC; Stock price today is less than 25% of where they were on September 5th, 2021.
23:38 DaemonFC; And they act like this is fine and the company's not dying.
23:38 DaemonFC; It's going away fast.
23:39 DaemonFC; The only "Tech" that's up is Twitter because Elon Musk ran his big mouth off and now has to pay more than what it could ever possibly be worth. Possibly by a factor of 10.
23:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR3], Looks like "Social Control Media" is about dead.
23:41 schestowitz[TR3]; it's not doing well
23:41 DaemonFC; Advertisers themselves are going bankrupt.
23:42 DaemonFC; Companies aren't spending on ads as much. They certainly want to make every dollar count.
23:42 DaemonFC; Many Consumer Goods companies are dialing back the ad spend and putting out coupons instead.
23:42 schestowitz[TR3]; yes, wel... wait till Musk fired 75% of twitter workers
23:42 schestowitz[TR3]; buy corn
23:42 schestowitz[TR3]; for popcorn
23:42 DaemonFC; I suspect iBotta is probably a good investment right now.
23:43 DaemonFC; It's an ad platform that has good consumer engagement.
23:43 schestowitz[TR3]; ibotta somee shares in a-facebopok
23:43 DaemonFC; People respond better to direct cash payments than they do to a TV ad or something.
23:43 schestowitz[TR3]; i-a lost-a alla ma monewy
23:44 DaemonFC; iBotta partnered directly with Walmart to offer rebates on Walmart's site through your Walmart account.
23:44 schestowitz[TR3]; HEYYYYY HIIII https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M8PYI6P1fnw
23:44 TR Bot; Nobody's paying attention to Meta's investments in artificial intelligence, says Morris Mark - Invidious
23:44 schestowitz[TR3]; which HEY HAIIIS are you doing, zuck?
23:45 schestowitz[TR3]; zuck.. AAALLLLLLLLLL!! The AIs.
23:46 DaemonFC; METAVERSE!
23:46 DaemonFC; It's in the dictionary.
23:46 DaemonFC; Soon, new dictionary.
23:47 DaemonFC; See; Bankruptcy
23:47 TR News; 14% in Finland. GNU/Linux. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/finland/#monthly-202111-202210
23:47 TR Bot; Desktop Operating System Market Share Finland | Statcounter Global Stats
23:47 DaemonFC; Musk says he plans to fire most people at Twitter.
23:47 schestowitz[TR3]; most??
23:47 schestowitz[TR3]; 75%
23:47 DaemonFC; Yeah.
23:47 schestowitz[TR3]; most would be like 50-60%
23:47 schestowitz[TR3]; 75% is likke.....w
23:47 schestowitz[TR3]; wow
23:47 DaemonFC; Okay, very nearly everyone.
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; I said to rianne
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; imagine the company said
23:48 DaemonFC; The place is going to collapse into a total sewer.
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; ok, you two say... alol the rest. FIRED
23:48 DaemonFC; No advertisers will want to touch it.
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; How do you even run the company?
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; surely those 25% don't know how to do ALL the tasks
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; and the rest will flee fast in protest
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; garden leave
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; no knowledge transfer
23:48 DaemonFC; I thought maybe Musk gotta Musk.
23:48 DaemonFC; But then it occurred to me.
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; reports say twitter staff is panicking
23:48 schestowitz[TR3]; and the company ntries to calm t hem do0wn
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; untilk the transaction completes
23:49 DaemonFC; He was having trouble getting enough money to pay for the company at the inflated price he pledged.
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; maybe there's a stutn up his sleeve
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; saying he'd fire them all
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; to cause mass resignation
23:49 DaemonFC; So maybe he's just broke and can't afford to actually run it once he gets it.
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; and then say he's not buying
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; it's not just him paying
23:49 schestowitz[TR3]; it's the saudis and larry ellison too
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; why would they even want it at this stage?
23:50 XRevan86; "Soon, new dictionary." <- The IRC metaverse understands things.
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; a leaaked document from thew company and the whistleblower show the company is dying
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; and issuing MEMES about i
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; intenrnally
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; *MEMEOS
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; MEMOS
23:50 schestowitz[TR3]; sorry, writing ina hurry
23:51 DaemonFC; It's amazing how badly the Republican Party of Alaska managed to blow it.
23:51 DaemonFC; They ran Sarah Palin, threw away a House seat that they controlled for over 40 years, and then blamed Ranked Choice Voting.
23:52 DaemonFC; She can see Russia from her house, you know.
23:59 starstreak; debian is so old, its default keyboard setting is hieroglyphics
23:59 starstreak; thats why roy makes so many typos
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