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02:21 schestowitz-TR2; I am thinking whether to record a video about gulag and email
02:21 schestowitz-TR2; need to get my facts right, is gulag blocking GOP spam (yes, it's spam) because of the meil relays
02:21 schestowitz-TR2; or because it is spam? I can see this boomerranging if I cannot justify the assertion
02:43 schestowitz-TR2; Excess Deaths in the US Should be Calculated Based on Pre-Pandemic Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/26/wrong-excess-deaths/
02:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Excess Deaths in the US Should be Calculated Based on Pre-Pandemic Levels
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03:05 schestowitz-TR2; Chart: England and Wales Deaths (Totals) in 2014-2019 (Average), 2021, and 2022 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/26/deaths-in-uk/
03:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Chart: England and Wales Deaths (Totals) in 2014-2019 (Average), 2021, and 2022
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07:15 techrights-sec[2]; gm
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; Google's spam filter is blocking spam. That is a red herring.
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; The more serious problem is that Google's spam filter is blocking nearly
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; all independently operated mail servers. Who is to say whether more R mail
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; servers are outside of GAFAM or if more D mail servers are outsourced to GAFAM?
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; It does not matter, that is the distraction and turns a political problem into
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; a partisan issue. The political problem is that Google appears to be aiming
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; to gain control of e-mail and force everyone who wishes to use e-mail to
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; use GMail but only over Google's webmail interface. Notice that most regular
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; mail clients are blocked and only in a few situations are complicated OAUTH
07:15 techrights-sec[2]; clients allowed, but with no indication for how much longer they will be allowed
07:16 techrights-sec[2]; Also look at their non-standard IMAPS implementation which has been impairing
07:16 techrights-sec[2]; mail clients since many years ago.
07:16 techrights-sec[2]; ^ for background only; do not quote any of the above
07:16 techrights-sec[2]; Here is /one/ case study:
07:16 techrights-sec[2]; https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html
07:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cfenollosa.com | After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.
07:16 techrights-sec[2]; https://blog.paranoidpenguin.net/2020/02/self-hosting-email-in-2020-joe-nobody-vs-world/
07:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.paranoidpenguin.net | Self-hosting email in 2020 Joe Nobody vs. World | ParanoidPenguin.net
07:28 *psydruid advocates "e-mail over XMPP"
08:40 schestowitz-TR2; I'm still reading about the gamil situation
08:40 schestowitz-TR2; to ensure I properly understand what there si to be said about it before writing about it
08:40 schestowitz-TR2; or even recording somethingh on the matter
08:40 schestowitz-TR2; I am a bit of an outsider to itm, having never used gmail
08:48 techrights-sec[2]; https://alpineapp.email/alpine/alpine-info/misc/xoauth2.html
08:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-alpineapp.email | Authenticating using XOAUTH2 in IMAP and SMTP
08:53 techrights-sec[2]; LT has no chance of getting real work done if he is playing webmail instead
08:53 techrights-sec[2]; of using a functional client
08:53 schestowitz-TR2; i knew only one user os it: linux torvalds
08:53 schestowitz-TR2; based on LF video, LT now uses "webmail" (his words
08:53 schestowitz-TR2; which is awful
08:54 schestowitz-TR2; 1) it's not about productivity, it is about oversight (bossing)
08:54 schestowitz-TR2; 2) email is not inn gneeral secure and gov. workflows should not use email for almost anything, but see (1)
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; Oversight, surveillance, and (in the case of employers) micromanagement
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; With the advent of M$ outlook, it's not only insecure but also highly
08:55 techrights-sec[2]; unreliable and 10% - 20% of messages for outlook/exchange go missing.
08:59 schestowitz-TR2; haha, seeing the link about youtube revenue declining
08:59 schestowitz-TR2; in spite or because of them bombarding the platfoprm with it?
08:59 schestowitz-TR2; They probably overdid it and scared away "users"
08:59 techrights-sec[2]; Youtube has overdone several abusive behaviors, and thus driven away droves
08:59 techrights-sec[2]; of useds.
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; good, even great, news
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; that's what I want to see
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; even with tons in subsidies and corrupted media on their side I hope they will perish and something
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; decent can fill the gap
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; (ot: yesterday on 3 occassions I searched for videos on "rms" or "stallman" for the day;
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; did not find anything from india but some 10-20 secs videos of some girl kept showing up,
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; apparently some tiktok stuff she also uploads to youtube; I did not click and one video
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; said something like "getting hot in here"; I assume some 'sexualised' something... a lot of
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; teens on tiktok harm themselves for whatever this chinese company rewards for)
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; youtube is a dump of junk
09:03 techrights-sec[2]; Searching Youtube for "RMS" brings up pages and pages of junk but nothing
09:03 techrights-sec[2]; related to RMS or to Software Freedom. Youtube is proprietary anyway
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes you can still find some new rms talks this way
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; I will try again later
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; I used indivious, not youtube
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; I can't stand youtube because it's slow and full of ads
09:05 techrights-sec[2]; Nothing in Odysee either
09:05 techrights-sec[2]; I thought he admonished hosts not to upload to youtube but to self host
09:05 techrights-sec[2]; The UI for Youtube is crap
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; maybe crap for YOU
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; YOU are NOT a CUSTOMER
09:10 techrights-sec[2]; of course
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; just realised irc logs for today nor posted yet
09:34 schestowitz-TR2; biab gym
09:44 schestowitz-TR2; re operational costs at youtube, that is aside from paying creators
09:44 schestowitz-TR2; if youtube on its own profitable at all?
09:44 schestowitz-TR2; the can hide that
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10:27 techrights-sec[2]; As mentioned, the costs for storage at youtube only go up and the number
10:27 techrights-sec[2]; of advertisers or other forms of income cannot grow adequately to cover
10:27 techrights-sec[2]; all that, I would guess
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; ack
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; that was "gym thought"
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; remember gitlab wanted to toss out "old" repos
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; and vimeo wanted to start charging
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; they know where the cost overhead is
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; gitlab even specified a number, 11 million dollars iirc
10:31 schestowitz-TR2; just for the "old" stuff
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; yes the cost structure or whatever it is called would be similar for
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; other storage-oriented sites. A problem there with GitLab is how they
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; can determine what is old or abandoned. Just because a code base is not
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; being changed does not mean it is not in use. It can quite simply have reached
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; a comfortable level as far as maturity goes.
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; So old, established projects would be very quiet regardless of how active
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; the community around the software actually is. There was one really prominent
10:37 techrights-sec[2]; and recognizable example there with GitLab but the name eludes me at the moment.
10:38 schestowitz-TR2; gitlab is not making money
10:38 schestowitz-TR2; it rides vc cash
10:38 schestowitz-TR2; that was BEFORE pandemic
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; must be worse now
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; same for github
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; azure has several waves of layoffs
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; but the sastroturfers in thelayoffs.com go rah rah over "clown"
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; I just lmao
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; riding debt
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; ~=success
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; andrew lee called himself "king of debt"
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; then again, also went by "clwon prince"
10:40 techrights-sec[2]; Debt, if one moves fast enough and never stops moving, is the new currency.
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; i have reasons to doubt the reason you heard; might be an exaggeration
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; well, then, good lukc to kings of debt
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; I'll watch them go down, as I have several times in recent years
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; people who went under super-fast
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; from showoff to nothing
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; over-evaluation of things partly enabled this debt heist
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; I will try to think more of the google thing while soing kitchen stuff
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; *doing
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; more topics would be good, too
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; news _seemed_ slow this morn
10:44 techrights-sec[2]; ack
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; social control media is a MOVING target
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; it got worse over time
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; I called out twitter every few years for "bcoming FB"
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; maybe at its grain, at the start, twitter was ok-ish
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; compared to some
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; youtube used to be more "you"
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; with compative non-religious channels
10:46 schestowitz-TR2; now it would be deemed "offensive"
10:47 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.r-project.org/foundation/
10:47 techrights-sec[2]; vs
10:47 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.r-consortium.org/
10:47 techrights-sec[2]; m$ and LF are in one to compete with the other; i.e. one is legitimate
10:47 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
10:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.r-project.org | R: The R Foundation
10:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.r-consortium.org | Home - R Consortium
10:52 techrights-sec[2]; a review of two or three of the key papers reminding us that sw patents
10:52 techrights-sec[2]; harm innovation would be of use in serveral ways
10:52 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
10:58 techrights-sec[2]; https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/10/24/1757258
10:58 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?
10:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Apple Granted Patent for Deepfakes Based on Reference Images - SoylentNews
10:58 schestowitz-TR2; ok, that can be merged in with the fourth topic in the list
11:01 techrights-sec[2]; https://futurism.com/riaa-ai-music-generators
11:01 techrights-sec[2]; that is the RIAA making similar arguments as the FOSS community has made against
11:01 techrights-sec[2]; m$ GitHub's Co-pilot which steals code
11:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-futurism.com | Record Labels Terrified by Rise of AI Music Generators
11:01 schestowitz-TR2; This is FALSE: "At this point, Copilot strikes me as a tool that replaces googling for stack overflow answers." No, stack overflow is NOT copyleft. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/25/if-github-copilot-is-a-copyright-problem-perhaps-the-problem-is-copyright/ | Source: Techdirt
11:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-If GitHub Copilot Is A Copyright Problem, Perhaps The Problem Is Copyright | Techdirt
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft is still trying to find a way to make some $ out of github
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; other than using it for sabotage
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; upselling "azure" did not work
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; they put azure person in charge
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; herding people into vscode won't work either if people grasp freedom
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; selling subscriptions for plagiarism alienates many developers
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; from what I saw, nat and his wife steph are moving to a whole different sector in "tech"
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; maybe after decades of mono and other crap they seek a fresh start,
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; but who knows...
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; the emaiul from graveley was a shot in his own foot (in court)
11:06 schestowitz-TR2; implusive and dumb
11:11 techrights-sec[2]; What's up with M$ and LF trying to compete against, and thus hinder, the
11:11 techrights-sec[2]; R Foundation?
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; you put the link once with "x" and once in Daily Links
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; I wantedd to say, mirosoft's attack on r is not new
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; and the infiltration attempts
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; I think it goes back to around 2016 when they bought some r-centric company
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; just to dip a finger in that pie
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; as a gateway to students/academia
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; but all those years later I don't see much r in shithub, azure, microsoft
11:13 schestowitz-TR2; they're irrelevant
11:14 techrights-sec[2]; It's not new but it is ongoing
11:14 techrights-sec[2]; The LF /is/ helping m$ carry out those attacks and is sponsoring events
11:14 techrights-sec[2]; I think most of the R community is aware of m$ though there is a push to
11:14 techrights-sec[2]; undermine development there as well by pushing a Windoze agenda sometimes
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; LF has become a rogue actor all around
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; that much is known, but needs to be explained repeatedly until
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; it's the "water cooler" talk
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; Sheela Microsoft and her wife love Microsoft and money
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; they never cared about Linus
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; Linus is an i**t for letting himself be controlled by wuch orgs
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; for 'convenience']
11:18 schestowitz-TR2; until they give him the 'stalin treatment'
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; even then he could have walked; for the time being it is still his trademark
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; and he had the fame though it is clear they are working to grind that away
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; so that when they yank the rug from under him there will be no one to protest
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; about it
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; and no outrage
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; on the possiblity of a new CMS for TR, searching will be important and something
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; will have to be arranged usin SQLite3's FTS5 with a FastCGI front end.
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; That is a little problematic since it will necessitate receiving strings
11:20 techrights-sec[2]; from the public.
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11:22 schestowitz-TR2; did you see the comments I reproduce from phoronix re LP?
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; phoronix still has some readers who care about freedom
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; and some idiots in the forum who pretend it is about "hate"
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; CorporateLinux won't be popular, but the remaining "media" will be bought off by it
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; like zdnet et al
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; I'll call out the sellouts more from now on
11:25 techrights-sec[2]; Yes, there are still visitors to Phoronix, but he will eventually tire them
11:25 techrights-sec[2]; out and those that are still coming back won't bother. I expect that the
11:25 techrights-sec[2]; number of commenters has already diminished greatly there since he sold out.
11:25 techrights-sec[2]; It's got to be hurting him in his conscience but whether it is enough to
11:25 techrights-sec[2]; make him repent is another matter. It would be very nice to see him try to make
11:25 techrights-sec[2]; good on this and go back to the old, quality work he used to do.
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; no, improbable
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; it's a point of no return
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; he noticed that when he covered msft shite like mono and windows he got more traffic
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; never stopped to think why perhaps
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; writing on these issues is ok, as long as you probably explain them, rather than reprodoce the lies
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; like the OCP thing (recent example)
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; tryint to be "objective" while giving a platform to liars
11:27 techrights-sec[2]; Quite improbably but those that are returning there to comment are likely
11:27 techrights-sec[2]; holding out such unrealistic hope of a recovery.
11:39 techrights-sec[2]; There's nothing objective when promoting lies or giving equal valence to
11:39 techrights-sec[2]; both lies / opinions versus facts.
11:39 techrights-sec[2]; That is a pervasive problem, not just in ICT but even more so in general
11:39 techrights-sec[2]; political discourse.
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; I use america-style scare quotes
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; michael has his knickers in a tizzy
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; he cannotproperly cover FOSS
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; why?
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; because of the sponsors
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; AMD and Intel are VERY close to Microsoft
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; putting aside the openwashing and virtue-signalling by michael
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; so he cannot 'bash' Microsoft without alienating the suppliers of gear etc.
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; iow, the site is compromised
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; when I saw the crates of 10,000-dollar EPYC I first reacherd out to him
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; because I hadn't realised just how compromised he had become
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; he has not posted similar phoronix since
11:44 schestowitz-TR2; inviting the "Evil eye" with "blingbling"
11:45 techrights-sec[2]; Intel and its fate are tied to M$; It's a crap, outdated, incurably insecure
11:45 techrights-sec[2]; architecture tied to a crap, outdated, incurably insecure, toy operating system
11:47 schestowitz-TR2; there will be more layoffs to come in both companies
11:47 schestowitz-TR2; be sure to stock some popcorn as the price of corn might increase
11:47 schestowitz-TR2; (rianne wasted money on some 'toy' popcorn machine that I told her she would barefly use
11:47 schestowitz-TR2; as it's a gimmick and not easy to clean; now she feels compelled to prove me e"wrong")
11:47 schestowitz-TR2; some people mistake kitchen (i.e. food) for gadgetry
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11:48 techrights-sec[2]; On the one hand it is good that the companies are diminishing;
11:48 techrights-sec[2]; On the other hand the characters employed there will be spreading out
11:48 techrights-sec[2]; and splattering across the market and infecting other sites with their (lack of)
11:48 techrights-sec[2]; values.
11:48 techrights-sec[2]; and skills
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11:50 schestowitz-TR2; in tech, there is a shortage of jobs, not people
11:50 schestowitz-TR2; and the skills of MSFTer are barely relevant to many companies that stay standing
11:50 schestowitz-TR2; vis-a-vis, the "novelty appeal" troll in IRC revealed having attempted to be hired by Micrfosoft
11:50 schestowitz-TR2; (and failing)
11:51 schestowitz-TR2; just something to bear in mind
11:53 techrights-sec[2]; Like deicaza they often work for m$ for many year prior to being officially
11:53 techrights-sec[2]; on the payroll.
11:53 techrights-sec[2]; There may be a break-in period where they have to prove useful in attacking
11:53 techrights-sec[2]; the competition in ways that they don't want directly or immediately associated
11:53 techrights-sec[2]; with the company. So they farm those tasks out to prospective hires and
11:53 techrights-sec[2]; let them cause trouble for some years while officially independent of m$
11:55 schestowitz-TR2; like peter o'[kelly and his attacks on ODF, along with Peter Galli (eWEEK)
11:55 schestowitz-TR2; fake 'journalist' get 'hired' as PR people for Microsoft later on
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12:06 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft profits fall 14% in 1Q 2023, Windows OEM sales most affected https://itwire.com/listed-tech/microsoft-profits-fall-14-in-1q-2023,-windows-oem-sales-most-affected.html probably a lot worse. That's what they say AFTER all the "creative" (Enron-style) accounting.
12:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Microsoft profits fall 14% in 1Q 2023, Windows OEM sales most affected
12:19 techrights-sec[2]; They've been doing Enron style accounting for a long time. Recall that using
12:19 techrights-sec[2]; the traditional accounting they ran a huge loss. Right now they are probably
12:19 techrights-sec[2]; only still in business due to ongoing bailouts, buying and selling their own
12:19 techrights-sec[2]; stock, and cooking the books.
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12:26 schestowitz-TR2; rianne sold an item this morning and will deliver later
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; the moden profit helps cover discount foods' cost
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; maybe I can ask ('instruct') her to add wine to the basket
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; seeing how our "enemies" crumble
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; (but I'm not the kind of person who 'wastes' time celebrating)
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; I'm off work till Sat
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; rianne will be in yorkshire for 2.5 days
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; today the CEO covers my shift (he does not even know how to)
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; because I asked for holiday and we are understaffed
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; one thing that can help is, check news about Micrtosoft finances
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; esp. the non-fluff, i.e. what they try to hide from headlines
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; like the big minuses
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; after Daily Links we can use those to make articles
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; it used to take a LOT of time to pick out the actual info out of their reports
12:26 schestowitz-TR2; "drpizza" was used a lot for official lying about their results back then
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14:19 schestowitz-TR2; can you read the post published 2 mins ago for andy?
14:26 techrights-sec[2]; checking
14:26 techrights-sec[2]; will look in detail in a bit, just skimmed it now; wikipedia is not such
14:26 techrights-sec[2]; a reliable reference especially if one does not link to the specific
14:26 techrights-sec[2]; day-version. Otherwise the page's contents can be radically changed over time
14:26 techrights-sec[2]; and a few years later not represent a single thing the citation was meant to
14:26 techrights-sec[2]; bolster.
14:42 schestowitz; the cancer has spread (results just in), chemo and radio will be needed :/
14:42 schestowitz; still no talk uploads of rms: https://yewtu.be/search?q=stallman&page=1&date=today&type=all&duration=none&sort=relevance
14:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | stallman - Invidious
14:44 techrights-sec[2]; condolences
14:44 techrights-sec[2]; recovery is still possible though
14:45 schestowitz-TR2; trying not to think about it _too_ much
14:45 schestowitz-TR2; in the link above you can see the tiktok crap
14:45 techrights-sec[2]; I'll skip bytdance
14:46 schestowitz-TR2; google needs to provide backup storage for that crap
14:46 schestowitz-TR2; i hope it costs them enough to wound the users some more
14:46 schestowitz-TR2; like, after 100 uploads you must pay or lose the older videos
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15:00 techrights-sec[2]; I forgot Gardiner existed.
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15:01 schestowitz-TR2; Gardiner Bryant shilling proprietary software :/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNl2WfS3YnU
15:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=DNl2WfS3YnU
15:01 schestowitz-TR2; @Invidious: https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=DNl2WfS3YnU
15:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidio.xamh.de | How to INSTALL Discord on Steam in UNDER 5 MINUTES (Even if you're a NOOB) - Invidious
15:01 schestowitz-TR2; -> invidious.flokinet.to | How to INSTALL Discord on Steam in UNDER 5 MINUTES (Even if you're a NOOB) - Invidious
15:03 techrights-sec[2]; I've read the post by Andy in detail now and made some annotation but are the
15:03 techrights-sec[2]; annotations of interest and if so how to communicate them?
15:03 techrights-sec[2]; It was a good read and well worth the time.
15:04 schestowitz-TR2; you can email him directly, I think
15:04 schestowitz-TR2; he would appreciate positive responses
15:04 schestowitz-TR2; I'm still thinking how to best handle the EPO/UPC issues
15:04 schestowitz-TR2; either way, an archive of old articles is in its own right valuable against the lies
15:31 techrights-sec[2]; ack
16:10 techrights-sec[2]; The EPO / UPC issues can be best handled by contacting some of the committe
16:10 techrights-sec[2]; members there in Germany.
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