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00:00 DaemonFC; Biden will also have the advantages of incumbency. And the fact that Trump told anyone who would listen that he was cheated in the election and they made it so he can't win.
00:00 DaemonFC; So Trump has depressed his own turnout. Not only did he do that, but he went and ruined two Senate elections in Georgia that the Republicans could have won.
00:00 DaemonFC; He told them stay home and don't vote because they'll just cheat you anyway.
00:01 DaemonFC; His endorsements don't mean as much as he wants people to think they do.
00:02 DaemonFC; He's endorsed Sonny Perdue to be the Governor of Georgia as payback for Brian Kemp refusing to try to overturn the election, but Kemp is polling way ahead.
00:02 DaemonFC; The whole revenge tour thing is wearing thin.
00:04 activelow; are you implying USA/"democrats" spit oil into fire in Ukraine, to escalate, and portray Trump as supporter of evil vladimir?
00:05 MinceR; sounds like somebody wasn't paying attention to the things former president Traffic Cone of Treason said
00:06 DaemonFC; No, I think the goal of the United States is to prolong the war and make the losses on the Russian side as heavy as possible.
00:06 DaemonFC; Supporting Ukraine is secondary. The primary goal is to kill a lot of Russians and to make Putin look like a huge idiot and to boot Russia out of world politics.
00:07 DaemonFC; In a month, the Russians have lost more soldiers than they did in 10 years in Afghanistan.
00:07 activelow; to benefit elections in USA?
00:07 DaemonFC; The longer Putin intends to stay there, the worse things will get for him.
00:07 DaemonFC; The Russians are already admitting, in a backwards way, what their ultimate plans are now.
00:08 activelow; which are?
00:08 DaemonFC; Which is to fall back and try to fortify/prop up the puppet governments they recognized at the start of this whole thing.
00:08 DaemonFC; They've gone from trying to destroy Ukraine as a nation to trying to prop up some separatist regions that are illegitimate.
00:09 DaemonFC; The Russians quite obviously lied.
00:09 activelow; the Minsk agreement insisted on federal elections in those regions
00:09 DaemonFC; As of this morning, they have blown up two major Holocaust memorials.
00:09 activelow; who?
00:10 DaemonFC; Claiming you denazify a country by shelling Holocaust memorials is a little odd.
00:10 MinceR; and in the Budapest Memorandum, terrorussia disclaimed any territorial demands against Ukraine
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00:30 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-support-engineer-lay-offs-2022-3
00:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-support-engineer-lay-offs-2022-3
00:30 TR Bot; I'm a Google Engineer Who Was Told They May Be Laid Off
00:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Goooooooooolag layoffs.
00:33 DaemonFC; https://www.insider.com/favorite-things-i-get-aldi-on-a-budget-meals-list-2022-3#our-shopping-list-usually-comes-out-to-about-20-a-week-for-the-two-of-us-1
00:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: insider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.insider.com/favorite-things-i-get-aldi-on-a-budget-meals-list-2022-3#our-shopping-list-usually-comes-out-to-about-20-a-week-for-the-two-of-us-1
00:33 TR Bot; My Household of 2 Shops at Aldi on $20 Budget Favorite Things I Buy
00:33 DaemonFC; LOL
00:33 DaemonFC; Another fucking fantasy document from Business Insider.
00:34 DaemonFC; "Goldhen large eggs: $0.80"
00:35 DaemonFC; Those are $1.49 at Aldi here.
00:35 DaemonFC; "Peanut Delight creamy peanut butter: $1.29"
00:35 DaemonFC; That's $1.69.
00:35 DaemonFC; "Happy Farms sharp cheddar cheese: $1.85"
00:35 DaemonFC; $2.79 here
00:36 DaemonFC; Not really sure what their angle is, except maybe propaganda.
00:36 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
00:36 DaemonFC; Black beans are not 55 cents, they are 79 cents.
00:37 DaemonFC; Says this article was posted 13 hours ago.
00:37 DaemonFC; These prices are more like Aldi's prices in 2012.
00:39 DaemonFC; I haven't seen a can of beans for 55 cents since at least 4-5 years ago.
00:39 DaemonFC; It was a long time before anyone heard of a Coronavirus.
00:40 DaemonFC; Aldi's prices aren't much better than Walmart's. The only reason I go there is for a few things Walmart doesn't have.
00:40 MinceR; many people have heard of coronaviruses before
00:41 DaemonFC; Yeah, virologists.
00:41 DaemonFC; Most people just go, "Yeah, another cold. Great!".
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02:01 DaemonFC; Mandy says he heard gunshots.
02:02 DaemonFC; Ivanova (B5): Truth be told, most of the people around here wouldn't mind if you killed each other, they'd just prefer you did it quietly.
02:02 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/illinois-to-shut-down-all-community-based-covid-19-testing-sites-due-to-sharp-drop-in-demand/
02:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/illinois-to-shut-down-all-community-based-covid-19-testing-sites-due-to-sharp-drop-in-demand/
02:02 TR Bot; Illinois to shut down all community-based COVID-19 testing sites due to sharp drop in demand
02:02 DaemonFC; That's how you make it go away. Stop testing people.
02:03 DaemonFC; Trump said it. That's the Democrat strategy leading up to the election now.
02:03 DaemonFC; https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
02:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: worldometers.info | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
02:03 TR Bot; United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
02:04 DaemonFC; Deaths:
02:04 DaemonFC; 1,003,418
02:04 DaemonFC; Congratulations to Biden for diverting attention to Russia for this occasion.
02:07 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/jury-deliberations-to-continue-for-3rd-day-in-trial-of-man-who-fatally-shot-teen-who-was-in-stolen-car-in-volo/
02:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/jury-deliberations-to-continue-for-3rd-day-in-trial-of-man-who-fatally-shot-teen-who-was-in-stolen-car-in-volo/
02:07 TR Bot; Jury deliberations to continue for 3rd day in trial of man who fatally shot teen who was in stolen car in Volo
02:07 DaemonFC; Nothing to deliberate about. If he shot some people for stealing his car, you vote to acquit and go home.
02:08 DaemonFC; "Glover sustained minor non-gunshot injuries from the incident and did not need medical treatment, police said."
02:09 DaemonFC; So the teenagers who stole his car were armed (illegally) and shot him (also illegally). Why aren't the survivors up on trial for car theft and shooting him and illegal gun?
02:09 DaemonFC; Illinois truly is the 7th circle of hell.
02:12 DaemonFC; I'm looking at the court records.
02:12 DaemonFC; It's clear that some of the jury members don't want to convict him and that this could end in a mistrial soon.
02:21 TR News; [GIT PULL] Multi-gen LRU for 5.18-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220326010003.3155137-1-yuzhao@google.com/
02:21 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] Multi-gen LRU for 5.18-rc1 - Yu Zhao
02:21 TR News; Independent Distro 4MLinux 39.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 5.16, FSP Server, and New Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163031
02:21 TR Bot; Independent Distro 4MLinux 39.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 5.16, FSP Server, and New Apps | Tux Machines
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03:24 DaemonFC; I see nobody wants to notice I said I would vote to acquit a black man for shooting a car thief.
03:25 DaemonFC; He did nothing wrong. The car was probably his way to work, and the people stealing his car had an illegal handgun.
03:26 DaemonFC; I think I'd make a good juror. Most of what the prosecutors do in there is just waste everyone's time.
03:26 DaemonFC; They try to pack the jury with statists and that's how they get convictions.
03:27 DaemonFC; Most people are bootlickers and toadies for the government because they've been completely brainwashed.
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04:14 matey; bnchs they don't understand we can't be crushing up our balls <- imagine telling a busty woman on the bus "could you squeeze your arms together so your chest starts to ache? people on the bus need room, you inconsiderate hag!"
04:14 matey; in a polite society (lol as if) no one would do that. not sure how all the hate about "manspreading" is different
04:15 matey; if someone needs me to crunch my own genitals together so theres room on the bus, there are too many people on the bus, qed
04:16 matey; its not like i recreate the leg-crossing scene from "basic instinct" when i sit
04:16 matey; or the choreography from "hit me baby one more time"
04:17 matey; meanwhile there could be someone twice my size on the bus weighing one side of it down. what do we say "hey pal, could you go on a diet plz? people on the bus need room!"
04:18 matey; nope, because youd have to be a total dick
04:19 matey; it used to be okay to hate on fat people, but now theres a new group its okay to hate. hate is okay, you just have to check which group is "it"
04:20 matey; /me notes that pretty soon theyll make men use their own separate washrooms
04:30 DaemonFC; http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/
04:30 TR Bot; Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | Techrights
04:30 DaemonFC; LOL at the Firefly GIF.
04:30 DaemonFC; Are we mandating tolerance of corruption?
04:30 DaemonFC; Fedora does.
04:31 DaemonFC; Ubuntu was the first distribution with one of those ridiculous codes of conduct.
04:31 DaemonFC; You don't actually have to do anything malicious to run afoul of it and become the victim of a public knifing.
04:32 DaemonFC; Ask Kevin Kofler (former Fedora KDE maintainer who actually USED Fedora KDE).
04:32 DaemonFC; The only reason it didn't fall apart years ago was it had maintainers who used it and tried to adjust KDE to the changes going on because of GNOME.
04:32 DaemonFC; They've completely let it go.
04:33 DaemonFC; It's pretty obvious that IBM does things to break KDE deliberately.
04:33 DaemonFC; I've been watching this go on for years now.
04:34 DaemonFC; In that way they're like the Pre-IBM Red Hat but only worse.
04:51 matey; <DaemonFC> Ubuntu was the first distribution with one of those ridiculous codes of conduct. <- "openrespect" was the beta version of codes of conduct
04:51 matey; jono bacon, "community manager"
04:52 matey; community mangler, more like
04:52 matey; [h]omer (this chat, 2008) did a great piece on "openrespect"
04:52 matey; inspired me as much as any blog post ever
04:53 matey; i think he called openrespect "a little sinister"
04:53 matey; "respect freedom, not pragmatism"
04:54 matey; id link to it on every /quit if it didnt require js just to display the text of the article (which i also think is a little sinister)
04:54 matey; display the text first, then run your little scripts all over it
04:55 matey; unless youre using the js to access a db <- actually, just dont ever do this
04:55 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, March 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:55 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:55 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:55 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:58 matey; <DaemonFC> It's pretty obvious that IBM does things to break KDE deliberately. <- as someone who dislikes both ibm and kde, i wish i knew what this referred to (id add it to the things i bitch about)
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04:59 schestowitz-TR; [04:51] <matey> jono bacon, "community manager"
04:59 schestowitz-TR; he is an "artist"
04:59 schestowitz-TR; "art of community management"
04:59 matey; bullshit is an art
04:59 schestowitz-TR; bossing volunteers is an art
04:59 schestowitz-TR; like heavy metal of his
04:59 schestowitz-TR; shouting at the microphone
04:59 schestowitz-TR; is music
04:59 schestowitz-TR; art
04:59 matey; i watched his interview with you, he was pretty nasty
04:59 matey; smug little shit he is
04:59 matey; imagine him teaching respect
05:00 schestowitz-TR; OPENrespect
05:00 matey; reminded me of mick jagger sneering about the verge using 12 notes from an INSTRUMENTAL (3rd party) version of a song the stones themselves didnt even write, they got it from the staple singers
05:00 matey; like the verve was a thief "omg 12 notes, how the fuck does he sleep at night"
05:01 matey; so they sued for 100% of writing credit, and the stones didnt wrote one bloody note of it but the verve wrote 100% (minus 12 notes of course)
05:01 mjg59_; Fair to disagree with Jono's approaches to community leadership, but "This isn't art" is a hallmark of authoritarianism
05:01 matey; and they won and sold it to nike so they could sell shoes
05:01 TR News; Windows itself is malware https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-antimalware-service-executable-process/
05:01 TR Bot; Should You Disable "Antimalware Service Executable" Process in Windows? - Make Tech Easier
05:02 matey; "This isn't art" is a hallmark of authoritarianism <- this seems like a stretch (but as rhetoric its top shelf)
05:02 mjg59_; Fascism and communism have both gone hard in on defining what legitimate art is
05:03 TR News; 191: GNOME 42, Linux Mint, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Lakka, CrossOver and more Linux news! - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-191/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
05:03 TR Bot; GNOME 42, Linux Mint, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Lakka, CrossOver and more Linux news! - TuxDigital
05:03 matey; i dont consider him authoritarian, i consider him opportunist (and id bet you this is closer to the mark)
05:03 matey; Fascism and communism <- i dont know, i think it depends on what you mean by communism (really)
05:03 matey; under authoritarian regimes like stalins, of course
05:03 matey; if it offends, its not legitimate
05:03 matey; if its anti-authoritarian, it offends
05:03 mjg59_; Oh, yeah, definitely referring to soviet-style regimes
05:04 matey; "i dont know what art isnt, but i know what i dont like"
05:04 TR News; 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 39.0 STABLE released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163032
05:04 TR Bot; 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 39.0 STABLE released. | Tux Machines
05:05 mjg59_; Spent a bunch of time in the past with metalheads and while it's not solidly my thing there's legitimate expression there
05:06 matey; yeah i liked metal until it started to shill for the record industry (which it didnt as a whole, i simply outgrew it at the same time SOME bands turned into 'businesses')
05:06 TR News; Imminent release for the media images for Debian 10.12 and 11.3 20220327 0010 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163029#comment-33207
05:06 TR Bot; Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 Bullseye Released with 83 Security Updates and 92 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines
05:06 matey; lawyerica
05:07 matey; harvester of royalites, let me be!
05:07 matey; typos ruin jokes :(
05:08 schestowitz-TR; germany tries to emulate this
05:08 matey; yeah germany experimented with authoritarianism a couple of times
05:08 matey; it didnt end well
05:10 TR News; EasyOS: Increased gap between drive icons and tray http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163002#comment-33208
05:10 TR Bot; EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.4 | Tux Machines
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05:29 TR News; This week in KDE: Progress on gestures and 15-minute bugs! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163033
05:29 TR Bot; This week in KDE: Progress on gestures and 15-minute bugs! | Tux Machines
05:29 TR News; the tragedy of gethostbyname - Ariadnes Space https://ariadne.space/2022/03/27/the-tragedy-of-gethostbyname/ Source: ariadne
05:29 TR Bot; the tragedy of gethostbyname Ariadne's Space
05:32 TR News; "Central Bank Accounts are Dangerous and Unnecessary" published https://taler.net/en/news/2022-03.html
05:32 TR Bot; GNU Taler
05:38 TR News; Ubuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163034
05:38 TR Bot; Ubuntu becomes a rolling release with Rolling Rhino | Tux Machines
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05:55 TR News; Mindless openwashing https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/comcast-commits-open-source see http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/
05:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercetelecom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/comcast-commits-open-source
05:55 TR Bot; Comcast shares its code to boost open source security | Fierce Telecom
05:55 TR Bot; Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy | Techrights
05:57 TR News; British capaganda https://www.forces.net/news/penguin-parade-welcomes-back-royal-navy-icebreaker-antarctic
05:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: forces.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forces.net/news/penguin-parade-welcomes-back-royal-navy-icebreaker-antarctic
05:57 TR Bot; Penguin parade welcomes Royal Navy icebreaker back to the Antarctic
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06:01 TR News; KDE Neon is a really awesome distro. Give it a try!
06:04 TR News; "One of Britain's largest unions, Unite, is calling on chip designer Arm's management to pause an ongoing redundancy process and "open up the books" for closer inspection to reveal the company's "true" financial health." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/uks_largest_union_to_arm/
06:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/uks_largest_union_to_arm/
06:04 TR Bot; UK's largest union calls on Arm to press pause on job cuts The Register
06:05 TR News; Conti=Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_security/
06:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_security/
06:05 TR Bot; SATCOM networks on high alert after US govt warning The Register
06:05 TR News; Zoom is basically spyware. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/zoom_dpia/
06:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/zoom_dpia/
06:05 TR Bot; Zoom agrees privacy conditions with Dutch ICT purchasing org The Register
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06:06 TR News; This is the sort of WEBSPAM that's RUINING the WWW and makes me want to use Gemini ANY time I can https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/
06:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: geeky-gadgets.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/
06:06 TR Bot; Last Minute Deal: Linux Administration Bootcamp - Geeky Gadgets
06:07 TR News; Best Open Source Security Tools in 2022 https://www.toolbox.com/it-security/vulnerability-management/articles/top-open-source-cybersecurity-tools/
06:07 TR Bot; NO TITLE
06:22 TR News; Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) 5 'Elsie' is very, very nice! I tried it yesterday. If you're into GNOME or Cinnamon, give it a try!
06:23 TR News; Guess what OS they use extensively https://www.law360.com/legalethics/articles/1476798/legal-stakes-rise-as-court-data-breach-grows
06:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/legalethics/articles/1476798/legal-stakes-rise-as-court-data-breach-grows
06:23 TR Bot; Stakes Rise As Court Data Breach Grows - Law360
06:23 TR News; AFTER?? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-22/leaders-measure-progress-after-covid-pandemic-blm-protests
06:23 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
06:24 TR News; Labor groups aim to block autonomous tractors in California | Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc. https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/17414-labor-groups-aim-to-block-autonomous-tractors-in-california Source: agri-pulse
06:24 TR Bot; groups aim to block autonomous tractors in California | Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc.
06:25 TR News; This move by Mozilla is INSANE BTW https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/
06:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/
06:25 TR Bot; Mozilla adds tiered subscription plans to MDN Web Docs The Register
06:27 TR News; "Addiction tech"... sounds like Facebook, but it ain't https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/money-flows-addiction-tech-will-it-curb-soaring-opioid-overdose-deaths
06:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/money-flows-addiction-tech-will-it-curb-soaring-opioid-overdose-deaths
06:27 TR Bot; Money flows into addiction tech, but will it curb soaring opioid overdose deaths? | Fierce Biotech
06:29 TR News; What about listening devices (Cortana) data? Blackmail repository. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/microsoft_lapsus_breach_probe/
06:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/microsoft_lapsus_breach_probe/
06:29 TR Bot; Microsoft investigates Lapsus$ claim of Bing, Cortana theft The Register
06:30 TR News; Microsoft propaganda relay securityboulevard suggests Microsoft malware on AWS https://securityboulevard.com/2022/03/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint-on-aws-part-4-final-entry/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/
06:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: securityboulevard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://securityboulevard.com/2022/03/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint-on-aws-part-4-final-entry/
06:30 TR Bot; Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on AWS: Part 4 Final Entry - Security Boulevard
06:30 TR Bot; Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights
06:31 TR News; Forbes legitimising a SCAM again? https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/what-is-an-nft-how-do-nfts-work/
06:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/what-is-an-nft-how-do-nfts-work/
06:31 TR Bot; Is An NFT? How Do NFTs Work? Forbes Advisor INDIA
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 305.50
07:00 TR News; "We (A&A) sell gigabit services, as both Ethernet and FTTP. We see other ISPs selling 950M or 900M, why?" https://www.revk.uk/2022/03/when-is-gigabit-not-gigabit.html
07:00 TR Bot; RevK's ramblings: When is gigabit not gigabit?
07:01 TR News; "Lslocks(8) is the Linux command that you usually use to list current file locks on a machine." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LslocksNotes
07:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LslocksNotes
07:01 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/LslocksNotes
07:01 TR News; "Infrastructure-as-code (IaC) is often seen as a deployment tool. Write code to describe your infrastructure" https://matt-rickard.com/vertical-workflow-engines/
07:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/vertical-workflow-engines/
07:01 TR Bot; Build-as-Code
07:02 TR News; "In this how-to, well look at the zip command, a useful utility that enables us to specify lists of files" https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/how-to/zip-files-in-linux
07:02 TR Bot; How To Zip Files in Linux | Tom's Hardware
07:02 TR News; "If you haven't heard of Asahi, it's a Linux distribution based on Arch Linux that aims to bring a polished Linux experience on Apple Silicon Macs" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/installing-asahi-linux-alpha-on-my-m1-mac-mini
07:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/installing-asahi-linux-alpha-on-my-m1-mac-mini
07:02 TR Bot; Installing the Asahi Linux Alpha on my M1 Mac mini | Jeff Geerling
07:05 TR News; Social control media ttps://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/26/the-invasion-of-ukraine-is-not-the-first-social-media-war-but-it-is-the-most-viral see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
07:05 TR Bot; Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
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07:05 *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR
07:05 TR News; HEY HI and death https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/03/26/the-dangers-of-weaponizing-artificial-intelligence/
07:05 TR Bot; The Dangers of Weaponizing Artificial Intelligence - Modern Diplomacy
07:06 TR News; "The director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations warned the private sector to be on high alert for potential Russian cyberattacks" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/fbi-warns-of-russian-cyberattacks-altice-t-mobile-deal-nfl-blockchain-deal-visionary-in-broadband/
07:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/fbi-warns-of-russian-cyberattacks-altice-t-mobile-deal-nfl-blockchain-deal-visionary-in-broadband/
07:06 TR Bot; FBI Warns of Russian Cyberattacks, Altice-T-Mobile Deal, NFL Blockchain Deal, Visionary in Broadband : Broadband Breakfast
07:07 TR News; "Now The V In RISC-V Stands For VRoom" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/now-the-v-in-risc-v-stands-for-vroom/
07:07 TR Bot; The V In RISC-V Stands For VRoom | Hackaday
07:08 TR News; "geek icons like Bill Gates"???????? https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/arduino-keeps-your-classic-timex-datalink-in-sync/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
07:08 TR Bot; Keeps Your Classic Timex Datalink In Sync | Hackaday
07:08 TR Bot; Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights
07:12 TR News; "For the past week Ive found myself focusing heavily on the mobile version of Lagrange." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_heads-down.gmi
07:13 TR News; "The existence of fudging frustrated me for a while because it forced me to come up with so many ways to be radically transparent to the dorks. Rolling openly, open tally of hitpoints etc. Sometimes showing parts from the module." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fudging-designers
07:14 TR News; "The past couple of years of the COVID pandemic have been rough in some unexpected ways, and its clear that our world will never be quite the same as it was beforehand" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/hacker-camps-are-back-to-get-you-in-the-mood-heres-a-story-from-1997/
07:14 TR Bot; Camps Are Back. To Get You In The Mood, Heres A Story From 1997 | Hackaday
07:16 TR News; Bezos https://truthout.org/audio/communities-are-paying-amazon-to-set-up-shop-it-should-be-the-other-way-around/
07:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/audio/communities-are-paying-amazon-to-set-up-shop-it-should-be-the-other-way-around/
07:16 TR Bot; Communities Are Paying Amazon to Set Up Shop. It Should Be the Other Way Around.
07:16 TR News; "With two Oscar nominations, "Parallel Mothers" is one of the contenders for the prestigious award ceremonies tomorrow." https://torrentfreak.com/oscar-contender-targets-official-oscars-website-with-a-dmca-takedown-notice-220326/
07:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/oscar-contender-targets-official-oscars-website-with-a-dmca-takedown-notice-220326/
07:16 TR Bot; Contender Targets Official Oscars Website With a DMCA Takedown Notice * TorrentFreak
07:22 TR News; We have 20 tests at home left. Watch what US is doing. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/26/utter-travesty-uninsured-americans-will-now-be-charged-125-single-pcr-covid-19-test
07:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/26/utter-travesty-uninsured-americans-will-now-be-charged-125-single-pcr-covid-19-test
07:22 TR Bot; 'Utter Travesty': Uninsured Americans Will Now Be Charged $125 for a Single PCR Covid-19 Test
07:22 *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving)
07:25 TR News; "Happy 10th Birthday to the Open Source Robotics Foundation OSRF founders discuss changes theyve seen over the last decade" https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/03/open-source-robotics-foundation-osrf.html
07:25 TR Bot; The Eponymous Pickle: Open Source Robotics Foundation (OSRF)
07:26 TR News; "Being a predominantly functional language, the fact that jq has a reduce function comes as no surprise." https://qmacro.org/2022/03/25/understanding-jq-s-reduce-function/
07:26 TR Bot; Understanding jq's reduce function
07:26 TR News; "Arrays in Cobol are called tables, and they are a bit odd." https://craftofcoding.wordpress.com/2022/03/25/coding-cobol-tricks-with-arrays-or-tables/
07:26 TR Bot; Coding Cobol: Tricks with arrays (or tables) The Craft of Coding
07:27 TR News; "On a daily basis, I work on firmware for an embedded device that uses the Bridgetek FT800." https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2022/03/fun-with-font-rendering-consistency-in-python/
07:27 TR Bot; Downtown Doug Brown Fun with font rendering consistency in Python
07:27 TR News; "The image above is his acceptance speech for a lifetime achievement award at the Webbys in 2013." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-actual-pronunciation-of-gif-from-the-creator/
07:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-actual-pronunciation-of-gif-from-the-creator/
07:27 TR Bot; The Actual Pronunciation of GIF, from the Creator - Daniel Miessler
07:29 TR News; Proprietary https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/researchers-urged-to-avoid-bug-bounty-firms-after-hackerone-hiccup.html
07:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/researchers-urged-to-avoid-bug-bounty-firms-after-hackerone-hiccup.html
07:29 TR Bot; - Researchers urged to avoid bug bounty firms after HackerOne hiccup
07:29 TR News; "Pedo guy" Elon https://www.thewrap.com/elon-musk-twitter-censorship-free-speech-undermines-democracy
07:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thewrap.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thewrap.com/elon-musk-twitter-censorship-free-speech-undermines-democracy
07:29 TR Bot; Elon Musk on Twitter Censorship Undermining Democracy
07:30 TR News; "usk shared his thoughts on Twitter after being asked if a new platform is something he'd consider." https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18079680/elon-musk-giving-serious-thought-new-social-media-platform/
↺ https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18079680/elon-musk-giving-serious-thought-new-social-media-platform/
07:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thesun.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18079680/elon-musk-giving-serious-thought-new-social-media-platform/
07:30 TR Bot; Elon Musk says he's 'giving serious thought' to building a new social media platform which focuses on free speech
07:30 TR News; "The deal includes a way for Europeans to object if they feel that their privacy has been violated" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/business/us-europe-data-privacy.html
07:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/business/us-europe-data-privacy.html
07:30 TR Bot; U.S. and European Leaders Reach Deal on Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy - The New York Times
07:31 TR News; "The European Union and United States made a breakthrough in their yearslong battle over the privacy of data that flows across the Atlantic" https://www.securityweek.com/us-eu-sign-data-transfer-deal-ease-privacy-concerns
07:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: securityweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/us-eu-sign-data-transfer-deal-ease-privacy-concerns
07:31 TR Bot; EU Sign Data Transfer Deal to Ease Privacy Concerns | SecurityWeek.Com
07:32 TR News; "Bloomberg reported that Exxon simply doesnt have enough pipelines to transport all the gas it produces from shale oil" https://futurism.com/the-byte/exxon-burning-gas-mine-bitcoin
07:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: futurism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://futurism.com/the-byte/exxon-burning-gas-mine-bitcoin
07:32 TR Bot; Exxon Mobil Is Starting to Burn Excess Gas to Mine Bitcoin
07:34 TR News; "In 2002, confidential intelligence sources informed ATF Agents of an Argentinean suspect brazenly selling machine guns" https://www.atf.gov/our-history/internet-arms-trafficking
07:34 TR Bot; Internet Arms Trafficking | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
07:35 TR News; You would expect this in Putin's Russia, would you not? https://www.thevalleypost.com/american-libraries-are-protesting-the-growing-onslaught-to-censor-books/
07:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thevalleypost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thevalleypost.com/american-libraries-are-protesting-the-growing-onslaught-to-censor-books/
07:35 TR Bot; American libraries are protesting the growing onslaught to censor books
07:36 TR News; "Though I appealed the removal and had the post reinstated, within 24 hours it was taken down again with a second, far more ominous warning from the platform that my account was about to be deleted." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/nadia-bokody-sexual-double-standard-in-censorship-of-identical-nude-photos/TTAE3RUMGN7KW4ERJQVSBFKJVQ/
07:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nzherald.co.nz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/nadia-bokody-sexual-double-standard-in-censorship-of-identical-nude-photos/TTAE3RUMGN7KW4ERJQVSBFKJVQ/
07:36 TR Bot; Nadia Bokody: Sexual double standard in censorship of identical nude photos - NZ Herald
07:37 TR News; "The sophistication of the anime dubbing industry has made great strides over the past few decades." https://www.cbr.com/anime-censored-english-audiences/
07:37 TR Bot; Anime That Were Censored For English Speaking Audiences | CBR
07:38 TR News; Putin is finishing off the media in Russia https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-venediktov-pig-head/31769204.html https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220325-russian-journalists-quit-over-putin-propaganda
07:38 TR Bot; Pig's Head Left At Moscow Apartment Of Radio Station's Editor In Chief
07:38 TR Bot; Russian journalists quit over Putin 'propaganda'
07:39 TR News; Monopolies like Gulag and the EU https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/facebook-google-amazon-apple-digital-market-act-europe-regulation-1235214516/ Microsoft criminals off he hook?
07:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/facebook-google-amazon-apple-digital-market-act-europe-regulation-1235214516/
07:40 TR Bot; Google to be Regulated as Europe Sets Digital Markets Act - Variety
07:43 TR News; OpenSSL vulnerability can definitely be weaponized, NSA cyber director says https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/application-security/openssl-vulnerability-can-definitely-be-weaponized-nsa-cyber-director-says
07:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: scmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/application-security/openssl-vulnerability-can-definitely-be-weaponized-nsa-cyber-director-says
07:43 TR Bot; OpenSSL vulnerability can definitely be weaponized, NSA cyber director says | SC Media
07:45 TR News; Russia looks for tech fixes for sanctions-hit HPC sector https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia-mobile-clusters/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/
07:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia-mobile-clusters/
07:45 TR Bot; Russia looks for tech fixes for sanctions-hit HPC sector The Register
07:45 TR Bot; When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights
07:46 TR News; I'm glad Gulag sanctioned the United States back in 2003 when it had invaded Iraq. Oh, wait...
07:47 TR News; They call everything "smart" now... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/pluribus_netvisor_for_nvidia_dpus/
07:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/pluribus_netvisor_for_nvidia_dpus/
07:47 TR Bot; Pluribus ports network OS to Nvidia SmartNICs The Register
07:50 TR News; The hypocrisy is astounding as the US is most aggressive in the Internet space https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/956180/cyber-warfare-what-is-russia-planning-next
07:50 TR Bot; Cyberwarfare: what is Russia planning? | The Week UK
07:51 TR News; "Robert Wille, Professor at the Technical University of Munich and CSO at the Software Competence Center, Hagenberg, considers the classical simulation of quantum circuits" https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/simulation-of-quantum-circuits/132333/
07:51 TR Bot; Classical simulation of quantum circuits
07:52 TR News; Now it's Cisco using "CLOWN" BS for marketing https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cisco-innovations-accelerate-hybrid-cloud-adoption/
07:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cisco-innovations-accelerate-hybrid-cloud-adoption/
07:52 TR Bot; announces new innovations to accelerate hybrid cloud adoption | TechRepublic
07:53 TR News; The Wall Street Times is stuck in some other universe.... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/21/arts/design/christies-andy-warhol-marilyn-monroe.html
07:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/21/arts/design/christies-andy-warhol-marilyn-monroe.html
07:53 TR Bot; Christies to Offer a Marilyn Monroe by Warhol for an Estimated $200 Million - The New York Times
07:57 TR News; Yes, dear, US never ever had any debris in space... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/china_moon_impact/
07:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/china_moon_impact/
07:57 TR Bot; Chinese rocket junk may have just smashed into Moon The Register
07:58 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grants
07:58 TR Bot; is doling out $200,000 'retention grants' to keep people from leaving - Protocol
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 281.61
07:59 TR News; This actually keeps salaries lower https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grants
08:01 TR News; Weird analogy as Reddit is state propaganda and censorship https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/douban_rectification/
08:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/douban_rectification/
08:01 TR Bot; China's internet regulator moves on Douban The Register
08:01 AdmFubar; https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n5e9/russian-internet-lantern
08:01 TR Bot; Meet the Secretive US Company Building an Unbreakable Internet Inside Russia
08:02 AdmFubar; they'll let you know... eventually https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/government-can-seize-your-messages-secret-lawmakers-want-you-know-if-it-does/
08:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/government-can-seize-your-messages-secret-lawmakers-want-you-know-if-it-does/
08:02 TR Bot; The government can seize your messages in secret. Lawmakers want you to know if it does. - The Washington Post
08:02 schestowitz-TR; true
08:02 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar: I was simulating this mormnng: in my mind...
08:03 schestowitz-TR; if there was a knock by people implementing search
08:03 schestowitz-TR; first, I need eyewitness.
08:03 schestowitz-TR; like wife
08:03 schestowitz-TR; then mask on
08:03 schestowitz-TR; then demand to see a court warrant
08:03 schestowitz-TR; so they don't abuse it ad hoc
08:03 schestowitz-TR; they need reasonable suspicion to access equipment and messages from whistleblowers
08:04 schestowitz-TR; afaik, british law requires that too
08:04 schestowitz-TR; they must go through court/judge
08:04 schestowitz-TR; to establish cause
08:04 schestowitz-TR; the assange and lauri love cases are interesting
08:04 schestowitz-TR; they used "hacking" as pretext
08:04 schestowitz-TR; in the love case, maybe fair
08:04 schestowitz-TR; in the assange case, it's not an accusation from another country
08:05 schestowitz-TR; but in love cases the police acted as imposter ... courier... actually a special crime unit
08:05 schestowitz-TR; not police per se
08:05 schestowitz-TR; which is questionable
08:06 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights
08:06 schestowitz; https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/bms-bets-volastras-vision-chromosomal-instability-partnering-11-billion-deal
08:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/bms-bets-volastras-vision-chromosomal-instability-partnering-11-billion-deal
08:06 TR Bot; Bristol Myers lands $1.1B biobucks oncology pact with Volastra, a biotech with phones 'ringing off the hook' | Fierce Biotech
08:07 schestowitz-TR; in NZ, they raided a home with antiterror squad
08:07 schestowitz-TR; armed to the teeth
08:08 TR News; Femmewashing Pentagon companies http://nwasianweekly.com/2022/03/breaking-in-to-the-tech-industry/
08:08 TR Bot; Breaking in to the tech industry
08:08 TR News; 11 Best Systemd-Free Linux Distributions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163035
08:08 TR Bot; 11 Best Systemd-Free Linux Distributions | Tux Machines
08:11 TR News; Tinkerer ports Doom to Pi Pico - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/doom_pi_pico/ Source: theregister
08:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/doom_pi_pico/
08:11 TR Bot; Tinkerer ports Doom to Pi Pico The Register
08:13 TR News; Criminals attacked criminals (Microsoft) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/lapsus-larger-companies/
08:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/lapsus-larger-companies/
08:13 TR Bot; Lapsus$ gang sends a worrying message to would-be criminals The Register
08:14 TR News; Bringing fakecoins under control https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/eu_parliament_cryptocurrencies/
08:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/eu_parliament_cryptocurrencies/
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08:14 TR Bot; Europe advances cryptocurrency rules without Bitcoin ban The Register
08:17 TR News; OASIS - ROS 2 based Smart Home operating system integrates with Kodi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163036
08:17 TR Bot; OASIS - ROS 2 based Smart Home operating system integrates with Kodi | Tux Machines
08:18 TR News; Gulag arrogantly pretends to be king of code in some PR stunt https://www.freepressjournal.in/education/edtech-firm-omotec-student-wins-google-code-to-learn-2021-competition
08:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/education/edtech-firm-omotec-student-wins-google-code-to-learn-2021-competition
08:18 TR Bot; Edtech firm, OMOTEC student wins Google Code to Learn 2021 competition
08:22 TR News; Ugly, shitty, expensive. You can get one for 10-20 pounds. https://www.windowscentral.com/drop-ctrl-review
08:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/drop-ctrl-review
08:22 TR Bot; Drop CTRL review: A great yet expensive foundation for a custom mechanical keyboard | Windows Central
08:24 TR News; Remember that many of today's 'articles' and 'reviews' are webspam, i.e. marketing in clothing of "journalism". Most of the WWW is like that now. Corporate military-grade propaganda battleground. It's getting hard to discern truth from fiction/astroturf.
08:25 TR News; ZDNet is AGAIN promoting/legitimising SCAMS https://www.zdnet.com/finance/blockchain/exclusive-ftx-buys-good-luck-games-in-quest-to-convince-gamers-to-love-nfts-and-blockchain/ http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet
08:25 TR Bot; FTX buys Good Luck Games in quest to convince gamers to love NFTs and blockchain | ZDNet
08:25 TR Bot; ZDNet - Techrights
08:26 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/
08:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/
08:26 TR Bot; Exotic Lily sells ransomware groups access to targets The Register
08:27 AdmFubar; cut off your head in spite of your body https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/25/self-decapitating-sea-slug/
08:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: snopes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/25/self-decapitating-sea-slug/
08:27 TR Bot; This Sea Slug Survive Self-Decapitation | Snopes.com
08:28 TR News; AvosLocker = Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/avoslocker-ransomware-critical-infrastructure-fbi/
08:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/avoslocker-ransomware-critical-infrastructure-fbi/
08:28 TR Bot; FBI: Ransomware gang is targeting US critical infrastructure The Register
08:29 AdmFubar; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isrBXeAsW20
08:29 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=isrBXeAsW20
08:29 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Monty Python - Shaver - Invidious
08:29 TR News; This assumes that the more people get hooked on surveillance networks with useless devices, the better off society will be. Meanwhile millions are homeless and sick. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/fcc-dangles-1b-third-emergency-connectivity-fund-round
08:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercetelecom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/fcc-dangles-1b-third-emergency-connectivity-fund-round
08:29 TR Bot; FCC dangles $1B in third Emergency Connectivity Fund round | Fierce Telecom
08:30 TR News; FEATURE-Behind Russias digital iron curtain', tech workarounds thrive | Technology https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/technology/1973550-feature-behind-russias-digital-iron-curtain-tech-workarounds-thrive Source: devdiscourse
08:30 TR Bot; FEATURE-Behind Russia's 'digital iron curtain', tech workarounds thrive | Technology
08:32 TR News; "Logs for network equipment in security critical functions shall be fully recorded and made available for audit for 13 months" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/telco_security_regulations_dcms_consultation/
08:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/telco_security_regulations_dcms_consultation/
08:32 TR Bot; DCMS launches public consultation on telco security The Register
08:34 TR News; Chine already dominates hardware and schools the world (with Taiwan and Japan). India does the same to software... https://saudigazette.com.sa/article/618360
08:34 TR Bot; India gearing up to become global hub for a digital economy - Saudi Gazette
08:36 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/27/irc-log-260322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/27/irc-log-260322/
08:36 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 26, 2022 | Techrights
08:40 TR News; "In 1987, CompuServe needed to pump crisp graphics over slow dial-up modems. The technology it created to do so is very much with us today." https://www.fastcompany.com/90734869/history-of-gif-steve-wilhite one of over a million USians killed by COVID
08:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fastcompany.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fastcompany.com/90734869/history-of-gif-steve-wilhite
08:40 TR Bot; How Steve Wilhite created the GIF in 1987 at CompuServe
08:40 *matey (~matey@9hp5w2mfcxg2e.irc) has joined #techrights
08:42 TR News; US did the same to Iran https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/us/politics/russians-cyberattacks-infrastructure-nuclear-plant.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Stuxnet
08:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/us/politics/russians-cyberattacks-infrastructure-nuclear-plant.html
08:42 TR Bot; U.S. Accuses 4 Russians of Hacking Infrastructure, Including Nuclear Plant - The New York Times
08:42 TR Bot; Stuxnet - Techrights
08:43 TR News; Lawsuits by proxy from Microsoft criminals, some alleged https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/in-appeal-apple-argues-epic-failed-to-prove-facts-of-fortnite-lawsuit/
08:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/in-appeal-apple-argues-epic-failed-to-prove-facts-of-fortnite-lawsuit/
08:43 TR Bot; Appeal, Apple Argues Epic 'Failed to Prove' Facts of Fortnite Lawsuit - CNET
08:44 TR News; Gulag = espionage. This is no goodwill, it's expansion of scope of surveillance. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/google-fiber-goes-hiring-spree-support-expansion-efforts
08:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercetelecom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/google-fiber-goes-hiring-spree-support-expansion-efforts
08:44 TR Bot; Google Fiber goes on hiring spree to support expansion efforts | Fierce Telecom
08:45 matey; /me crosses the streams
08:45 matey; so apparently putin is installing systemd on everything
08:46 TR News; Fake security https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/fido_password_killer/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/
08:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/fido_password_killer/
08:46 TR Bot; FIDO Alliance says it has finally killed the password The Register
08:46 TR Bot; A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights
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08:49 TR News; COVID profiteering https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/abbott-snags-1b-us-government-contract-rapid-covid-19-tests
08:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/abbott-snags-1b-us-government-contract-rapid-covid-19-tests
08:49 TR Bot; Abbott snags $1B U.S. government contract for rapid COVID-19 tests | Fierce Biotech
08:50 TR News; Astro Slide 5G review: Yin and yang Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163037
08:50 TR Bot; Astro Slide 5G review: Yin and yang | Tux Machines
08:51 TR News; Microsoft is scamming people, propping up fakecoins https://www.fool.ca/2022/03/17/5-play-to-earn-cryptocurrencies-you-need-to-have-on-your-watchlist/
↺ https://www.fool.ca/2022/03/17/5-play-to-earn-cryptocurrencies-you-need-to-have-on-your-watchlist/
08:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fool.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fool.ca/2022/03/17/5-play-to-earn-cryptocurrencies-you-need-to-have-on-your-watchlist/
08:51 TR Bot; 5 Play-to-Earn Cryptocurrencies You Need to Have on Your Watchlist | The Motley Fool Canada
08:53 TR News; All proprietary software should be removed, including American ones. They're using secrecy to do malicious things. Russia hasn't a monopoly on that. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/kaspersky_germany_antivirus/
08:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/kaspersky_germany_antivirus/
08:53 TR Bot; German citizens told to uninstall Kaspersky antivirus The Register
08:54 TR News; Gulag espionage machine coming for your medical records and even your flood, heart rate etc. https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-launches-new-search-tool-for-provider-appointments-seeks-fda-approv/621029/
08:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: healthcaredive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-launches-new-search-tool-for-provider-appointments-seeks-fda-approv/621029/
08:54 TR Bot; Google launches new search tool for provider appointments, seeks FDA approval for Fitbit feature | Healthcare Dive
08:54 TR News; Poop surveillance https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/health-officials-see-bright-future-poop-surveillance
08:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/health-officials-see-bright-future-poop-surveillance
08:54 TR Bot; Health officials see bright future in poop surveillance | Fierce Biotech
08:57 TR News; Coming soon: Gulag Poop(TM). "Connect your "smart" phone to this peripheral for your safety, health, fitness..." (and Gulag will take all the shitty data 'upstream', overnight while you sleep)
08:57 TR News; ICBM is all about buzzwords now. AIDevSecOps++ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ibm_flexera_aiops/
08:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ibm_flexera_aiops/
08:57 TR Bot; IBM partners with Flexera on AIOps IT automation The Register
08:58 TR News; RISC-V rising. https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_stocks/iar-systems-commits-to-bring-leading-development-tools-to-the-growing-number-of-risc-v/article_91b62a1b-5ed3-5881-a8ad-05d6708c089f.html
08:58 TR Bot; Systems commits to bring leading development tools to the growing number of RISC-V users | News | wfmz.com
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 292.78
08:59 TR News; What skills? Memorising Microsoft and Amazon GUIs? Or real computer skills? https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/indian-workers-requiring-digital-skills-set-to-rise-by-273-mn-over-next-year-report
08:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/indian-workers-requiring-digital-skills-set-to-rise-by-273-mn-over-next-year-report
08:59 TR Bot; Indian workers requiring digital skills set to rise by 27.3 mn over next year: Report
09:02 TR News; What do Islamic terrorists and proprietary software have in common? They crash planes into buildings. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/business/boeing-trial-737-max-mark-forkner.html
09:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/business/boeing-trial-737-max-mark-forkner.html
09:02 TR Bot; Jury Finds Former Boeing Pilot Not Guilty of Fraud in 737 Max Case - The New York Times
09:03 TR News; 'Next Generation Litigation Software'??? https://seekingalpha.com/news/3815230-leonovus-secures-goc-standing-offer-for-its-hyper-secure-file-transfer-solution
09:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: seekingalpha.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://seekingalpha.com/news/3815230-leonovus-secures-goc-standing-offer-for-its-hyper-secure-file-transfer-solution
09:03 TR Bot; Leonovus secures GoC standing offer for its hyper-secure file transfer solution | Seeking Alpha
09:04 TR News; "That project included writing 40,000 lines of code for the moon-landing lunar module, and its mothership, the orbiting craft carrying the command and service modules." https://thenewstack.io/nasa-programming-legend-margaret-hamilton-gives-rare-interview/
09:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/nasa-programming-legend-margaret-hamilton-gives-rare-interview/
09:04 TR Bot; Margaret Hamilton Recalls Her Life as a Programming Pioneer The New Stack
09:06 TR News; "There are a few Qualcomm Snapdragon 7c Chrome OS devices on the market today. But some might like to see the more powerful Snapdragon 8cx inside a Chromebook." x86 buh-bye https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/snapdragon-8cx-chromebooks-could-be-coming-but-not-soon/ the more expensive energy gets, the worse off x86/Windows will be
09:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: aboutchromebooks.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/snapdragon-8cx-chromebooks-could-be-coming-but-not-soon/
09:06 TR Bot; Snapdragon 8cx Chromebooks could be coming, but not soon About Chromebooks
09:07 TR News; "SiFive is pulling in nearly $400m in funding this year between a new investment round and the proceeds of a business sale with the ambitious mission of eclipsing rival Arm and the x86 world of Intel and AMD with processor designs for everything from smartphones to servers." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/sifive_175m_series_f/
09:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/sifive_175m_series_f/
09:07 TR Bot; SiFive bags $175m to further challenge Arm with RISC-V The Register
09:08 TR News; Salesforce viciously attacked the founder of GNU/Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/salesforce_jan_6_select_committee_subpoena/ it also profits from crimes against humanity: http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/
09:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/salesforce_jan_6_select_committee_subpoena/
09:08 TR Bot; Republican Party sues Salesforce over Capitol riot info dump The Register
09:08 TR Bot; The OSIs President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights
09:11 TR News; ICBM: we're good at buzzwords! Buy our wares!! https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220322005807/en/Red-Hat-Lowers-Barriers-to-Artificial-Intelligence-Projects-with-Red-Hat-OpenShift
09:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220322005807/en/Red-Hat-Lowers-Barriers-to-Artificial-Intelligence-Projects-with-Red-Hat-OpenShift
09:11 TR Bot; Red Hat Lowers Barriers to Artificial Intelligence Projects with Red Hat OpenShift | Business Wire
09:12 TR News; "Policy via social media: It's a thing now." No, it is not. Social control media is sheer stupidity at this point. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/qualcomm_russia_sales/
09:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/qualcomm_russia_sales/
09:12 TR Bot; Qualcomm tweets it has stopped selling to Russia The Register
09:13 TR News; "A now-former Apple employee accused of causing the iGiant to lose more than $10m in a super-scam has been charged with conspiracy, laundering, and tax evasion." Will Apple ALSO be charged for tax evasion??? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/apple_buyer_fraud_allegations/
09:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/apple_buyer_fraud_allegations/
09:13 TR Bot; Buyer at Apple allegedly ripped off company in super-scam The Register
09:14 TR News; This was malware shipped by Microsoft, stop blaming "open source" https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515031/Pro-Ukraine-sabotage-renews-scrutiny-on-open-source-security
09:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515031/Pro-Ukraine-sabotage-renews-scrutiny-on-open-source-security
09:14 TR Bot; Pro-Ukraine sabotage renews scrutiny on open source security
09:17 TR News; These sanctions are, in general, harming the most vulnerable people the most, inc. Russian opposition groups https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-sanctions-oligarchs.html
09:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-sanctions-oligarchs.html
09:17 TR Bot; Opinion | Sanctions on Oligarchs Wont End Putins War in Ukraine - The New York Times
09:18 TR News; Grifters and frauds https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/oneweb_spacex/
09:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/oneweb_spacex/
09:18 TR Bot; OneWeb turns to SpaceX for satellite launches The Register
09:23 TR News; They do NOT talk about E-mail; they talk about SPAM https://www.practicalecommerce.com/mastering-email-deliverability-in-2022
09:23 TR Bot; Mastering Email Deliverability in 2022 - Practical Ecommerce
09:23 TR News; HowTo fix Cleartext HTTP traffic not permitted in Android Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163038
09:23 TR Bot; How to fix Cleartext HTTP traffic not permitted in Android | Tux Machines
09:25 TR News; How many people need to die before the downfall of "pedo guy" Musk? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_ai/
09:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_ai/
09:25 TR Bot; Tesla employee: I was fired for self-driving crash vid post The Register
09:27 TR News; He used to write about Free software; now it's a pool of clownwashing BS. https://www.itweb.co.za/content/xA9PO7NZBzN7o4J8
09:27 TR Bot; The world as code: Transforming ones and zeros | ITWeb
09:28 TR News; If more people paid attention, they'd not carry such devices around https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/23/1047899/secret-police-app-minnesota-police-journalists-protests-data/
09:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/23/1047899/secret-police-app-minnesota-police-journalists-protests-data/
09:28 TR Bot; Inside the app Minnesota police use collect data on journalists at protests | MIT Technology Review
09:29 TR News; Shouldn't there be a right to repairable broadband? - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/panic_stations/ Source: theregister
09:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/panic_stations/
09:29 TR Bot; Shouldn't there be a right to repairable broadband? The Register
09:31 TR News; Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ukraine_cobalt_caddywipe/
09:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ukraine_cobalt_caddywipe/
09:31 TR Bot; The Windows malware on Ukraine CERT's radar right now The Register
09:32 TR News; Algorithms, not "HEY HI!!" https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/ai-systems-language-training-internet-race-gender-bias/
09:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fortune.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/ai-systems-language-training-internet-race-gender-bias/
09:32 TR Bot; miseducation of A.I.: Systems trained using the internet can develop gender, race, and age bias, new report finds | Fortune
09:33 TR News; "Another great day to be a Linux user." https://www.osnews.com/story/134695/icloud-and-many-other-apple-services-are-down-or-experiencing-issues/
09:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134695/icloud-and-many-other-apple-services-are-down-or-experiencing-issues/
09:33 TR Bot; and many other Apple services are down or experiencing issues OSnews
09:36 TR News; "to stream" = worthless. I want to KEEP what I watch and what I like. GulagTube is NOT on our side. https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/youtube-now-offers-tv-show-seasons-stream-free
09:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fiercevideo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/youtube-now-offers-tv-show-seasons-stream-free
09:36 TR Bot; YouTube now offers TV show seasons to stream for free | Fierce Video
09:36 TR News; This is good. Good for many things inc. the environment. https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/work-from-home-magicpin-announces-its-remote-first-workplace-policy
09:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/work-from-home-magicpin-announces-its-remote-first-workplace-policy
09:36 TR Bot; Work from Home: Magicpin announces its Remote-First workplace policy
09:39 TR News; Clown Guru (Micosofters) rewrite the history of the most important OS https://devops.com/why-the-linux-kernel-is-still-important/ see http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/
09:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: devops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/why-the-linux-kernel-is-still-important/
09:39 TR Bot; the Linux Kernel is Still Important - DevOps.com
09:39 TR Bot; Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesnt Care About GNU/Linux and Now Its Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights
09:40 TR News; What Is GrapheneOS, and How Does It Make Android More Private? https://www.howtogeek.com/790266/what-is-grapheneos-and-how-does-it-make-android-more-private/ if it's a mobile phone, it is NOT private
09:40 TR Bot; What Is GrapheneOS, and How Does It Make Android More Private?
09:41 TR News; "app for Windows and Mac ... Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS) severity rating of 9.1, making it a critical weakness." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/wd_edgerover_app_flaw/
09:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/wd_edgerover_app_flaw/
09:41 TR Bot; Another flaw found in Western Digital's EdgeRover app The Register
09:43 TR News; "Criminals are staging a devious new kind of kidnapping and the FBI is stumped." https://www.businessinsider.com/virtual-kidnappers-scamming-terrified-parents-out-of-millions-fbi-2022-3?r=US&IR=T
09:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/virtual-kidnappers-scamming-terrified-parents-out-of-millions-fbi-2022-3?r=US&IR=T
09:43 TR Bot; Virtual Kidnappers Are Scamming Parents Out of Millions of Dollars
09:44 TR News; They need to delete Microsoft Windows. That's a good start. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland-when-great-power-competition-meets-digital-world/ukraines-digital-army-battling
09:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nationalinterest.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland-when-great-power-competition-meets-digital-world/ukraines-digital-army-battling
09:44 TR Bot; Ukraines Digital Army Is Battling Russia in Cyberspace | The National Interest
09:47 TR News; Companies that make malware which they claim will "protect" you https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/cma_nortonlifelock_avast/
09:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/cma_nortonlifelock_avast/
09:47 TR Bot; UK's CMA halts NortonLifeLock's acquisition of Avast The Register
09:48 TR News; Gulag boss. The Pentagon's man... https://patch.com/california/berkeley/uc-berkeley-news-google-boss-fund-data-science-initiative
09:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: patch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://patch.com/california/berkeley/uc-berkeley-news-google-boss-fund-data-science-initiative
09:48 TR Bot; Berkeley News: Google Boss To Fund Data Science Initiative | Berkeley, CA Patch
09:51 TR News; "The diffoscope maintainers are pleased to announce the release of diffoscope version 209." https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-209-released/
09:51 TR Bot; diffoscope 209 released
09:51 TR News; New book highlights open source tools and tips for personal cybersecurity | https://opensource.com/article/22/3/book-review-cybersecurity Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
09:51 TR Bot; book highlights open source tools and tips for personal cybersecurity | Opensource.com
09:54 TR News; "Today I found out that the debian security team handles oldstable releases only for a year or so, after which the LTS team takes over, which is arguably less secure." https://dt.iki.fi/debian-dist-upgrade-stable-from-oldstable
09:54 TR Bot; Debian from oldstable to stable | dt.iki.fi
09:54 TR News; A collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion https://dt.iki.fi/forum-posts-collection
09:54 TR Bot; collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion | dt.iki.fi
09:58 TR News; Two new Linux handhelds with nostalgic vibes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163039
09:58 TR Bot; Two new Linux handhelds with nostalgic vibes | Tux Machines
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10:14 bnchs; alexa where do i live
10:14 bnchs; alexa add big dildo to my shopping list
10:14 bnchs; dont let a speaker that someone can play audio through near an alexa
10:19 schestowitz-TR; alexa, who does fee cheat on his wife with?
10:19 schestowitz-TR; *jeff
10:19 schestowitz-TR; (bezos)
10:19 bnchs; fun fact: you can leak a streamer's location if they have an alexa nearby
10:19 bnchs; just say (with text to speech) "alexa, what is my current location"
10:20 matey; right?
10:20 schestowitz-TR; they can get location from the wifi
10:20 schestowitz-TR; triagulation
10:20 schestowitz-TR; or
10:20 schestowitz-TR; phones on that same wifi spot
10:20 matey; :)
10:20 schestowitz-TR; where the phones broadcast location with high accuracy all the time
10:21 schestowitz-TR; alexa, is it true bezos shuts down alexa?
10:21 bnchs; yeah
10:21 bnchs; but you have to know the wifi list
10:21 bnchs; or be near the person
10:21 bnchs; alexa, order 12 gallons of lube
10:22 bnchs; alexa, call mom
10:23 bnchs; alexa, call me an uber
10:23 bnchs; its fun to mess with other people's alexas (not like they own it) when they're streaming
10:23 schestowitz-TR; alexa: you are uber, get lube for mom
10:24 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: those are fads
10:24 schestowitz-TR; no practical value to them
10:24 bnchs; yeah
10:24 schestowitz-TR; maybe a little for disabled people
10:24 bnchs; its just a spying device
10:24 schestowitz-TR; but other than that, none...
10:24 schestowitz-TR; products get more expensive, harder to repair
10:24 schestowitz-TR; never mind privacy aspects
10:24 bnchs; maybe like telling you whats your location
10:25 schestowitz-TR; which many people do not mind
10:25 schestowitz-TR; they mind more when it costs them a lot of money
10:25 bnchs; simply hearing a TTS audio saying "alexa, whats my current location" is enough to trip it
10:26 matey; other fads that will be here for a while: credit cards, smartphones, internet-connected appliances
10:26 matey; like appliances that have been in homes since the 1950s or earlier, but now with internet
10:26 bnchs; whats the point of credit cards
10:27 bnchs; making shopping more convenient?
10:27 matey; including nest
10:27 matey; front door cameras probably not going away soon enough either
10:27 bnchs; also allowing you to easily pay for shit
10:27 bnchs; which also means more careless purchases
10:28 bnchs; its easy to swipe credit cards many times
10:29 matey; front door cameras brought to you by porch thieves brought to you by amazon
10:30 bnchs; the security of credit cards depends on a 4-digit code
10:30 matey; its only a matter of time before a porch thief grabs a camera that the recepient was planning to install to watch porch thieves
10:30 bnchs; (btw over 6.5k possible combinations)
10:31 bnchs; 4-digit codes are weak as shit
10:31 bnchs; maybe they should upgrade to 8-digit
10:31 bnchs; or more
10:32 matey; they wont upgrade to anything that makes too much work for people calling in saying they dont know their pin
10:32 matey; i can see a future upgrade to 5 digit pins
10:32 bnchs; yeah so they're stuck on a weak ass security
10:32 bnchs; computers are so powerful these days
10:32 matey; maybe theyll just scrap pins altogether and use nfc
10:33 bnchs; that 6.5k combinations is literally nothing
10:33 bnchs; if you bruteforce multi-threaded
10:34 bnchs; matey: banks still use cobol and old IBM mainframes right?
10:35 TR News; Links 27/03/2022: 4MLinux 39.0 Release and Windows Chaos | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/27/4mlinux-39-0-release/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/27/4mlinux-39-0-release/
10:35 TR Bot; Links 27/03/2022: 4MLinux 39.0 Release and Windows Chaos | Techrights
10:36 matey; <bnchs> matey: banks still use cobol and old IBM mainframes right? <- um, sure
10:37 matey; i know some still use cobol
10:37 bnchs; well they probably have it hardcoded to 4-digit PINs
10:37 matey; im going with my theory for now
10:37 bnchs; instead of having a modular security interface
10:37 matey; its probably all the individual readers that are hard-coded to 4-digit pins
10:38 bnchs; yeah
10:38 matey; but the reason is: typical user
10:38 bnchs; 5-digit pins can have 59k combinations
10:38 TR News; Proprietary Software, Security News, and DRM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163040
10:38 TR Bot; Proprietary Software, Security News, and DRM | Tux Machines
10:38 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163041
10:38 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:38 matey; i think the main security feature is fraud detection, not fraud prevention
10:38 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: Pi Pico, Open Source Robotics Foundation, RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163042
10:38 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Pi Pico, Open Source Robotics Foundation, RISC-V | Tux Machines
10:39 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163043
10:39 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:39 matey; its not too hard to fake a purchase if you really want to
10:39 matey; but you can get caught after the fact
10:39 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163044
10:39 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
10:39 matey; the entire industry seems to rely on detection, not prevention
10:40 matey; this is not my area of expertise, just observation
10:40 bnchs; my calcs were wrong
10:41 bnchs; you could say 10000 for 4-digit pins
10:41 matey; i would think 5-digits means 99999
10:41 matey; because...
10:41 bnchs; and 100k for 5-digits
10:41 matey; right
10:41 bnchs; you gotta also count the 0000
10:41 matey; yes
10:41 matey; what did you do, 9**n ?
10:41 bnchs; yeah
10:42 bnchs; should have done 10
10:42 matey; time for coffee
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10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 300.01
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11:21 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> where the phones broadcast location with high accuracy all the time
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11:21 DaemonFC; Unless it was like that LG G5 with the malfunctioning GPS that said I was using the spore drive from the USS Discovery to teleport around Chicago.
11:22 DaemonFC; That would have looked "interesting" had anyone wanted my location data for an investigation later.
11:22 DaemonFC; That you could make it 90 blocks in 2 minutes.
11:22 DaemonFC; Then bounce back to the other side of town again.
11:24 DaemonFC; "A MacBook hybrid drive company is named tarDISK." -Wikipedia
11:25 DaemonFC; Apple should rename their Clown Storage that collapsed twice this week alone "'tard disk".
11:26 DaemonFC; "Hey NSA! What's the weather today?"
11:26 DaemonFC; "Hey NSA! Tell me a joke!"
11:26 DaemonFC; "Hey NSA! Please stop telling my daughter to put a fork in the outlet over the Alexa, thanks!"
11:28 DaemonFC; Wanna see a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil DISAPPEAR! TADA!
12:02 DaemonFC; https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/25/cleve-jones-san-francisco-housing-rent-lgbtq-activist
12:02 TR Bot; San Francisco activist behind Aids quilt to leave home after rent doubles to $5,200 | San Francisco | The Guardian
12:02 DaemonFC; Welcome to SJW Fantasy Island. mjg59_ will be your host, filling in for Mr. Roarke.
12:03 Ariadne; seriously?
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12:04 DaemonFC; "The new owner, Lily Pao Kue, is a 30-year-old self-described stock market investor who, according to Zillow records reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle, purchased the property in February for $1,585,000.
12:04 DaemonFC; According to the Chronicle, Kue has installed security cameras around the property, begun construction work in the building and had a car that belonged to Jones friend and roommate removed from the property.
12:04 DaemonFC; In a letter Kue sent to Jones on 18 March, she stated that she assessed he had vacated the property and she would be increasing the current rent $2,393 to $5,200 as of 1 July, invoking a Costa-Hawkins petition.
12:04 DaemonFC; Costa-Hawkins is a state law that sets certain requirements for cities with rent control. Under the law, landlords are allowed to raise rent to market rate once a tenant moves out."
12:05 DaemonFC; A 30 year old "stock market investor" bought the place and is trying to claim that he abandoned his apartment, along with other harassment, to drive him out under the city's failed rent control law.
12:06 DaemonFC; Very Progressive City
12:06 DaemonFC; If he fights her, then what happens next obviously is yet another eviction by fire that the city says it doesn't find any evidence of.
12:09 matey; this would be more compelling if he had grown up there and lived there for... how long
12:09 matey; and by more compelling, is the idea that a couple anecdotes regarding a metropolitan area sum up the region?
12:10 matey; dont get me wrong, the conclusion isnt something id necessarily argue with. its the evidence thats amusing.
12:10 matey; fake progressives are the main kind.
12:12 matey; kue sounds like a "lovely" person too
12:12 bnchs; hello
12:12 matey; o/
12:15 bnchs; so my dad bought a "smart" tv
12:16 bnchs; specifically a lg webos
12:16 matey; awful
12:16 bnchs; well it's a step better than samsung's crap
12:16 bnchs; it can be easily rooted
12:16 bnchs; and i avoided SW updating it
12:17 matey; fair enough i guess
12:17 matey; /me wonders why this stuff has to be built into the tv when the alternative is a tiny box with a cable (like a roku)
12:18 matey; tiny and easier to upgrade
12:18 bnchs; also get a taste of these buzzwords
12:18 bnchs; LG ThinQ AI
12:19 bnchs; "AI upscaling"
12:19 matey; sounds fancy
12:19 DaemonFC; He's been living in that apartment since the AIDS crisis began.
12:19 DaemonFC; So that's at least 40-42 years?
12:19 bnchs; it's probably gonna be as shit as samsung's font-rendering system
12:19 matey; like instead of alexa, a little robot with a bowtie and a towel over his arm comes out to ask if youd like a wine list
12:20 DaemonFC; I wouldn't connect a TV to the Internet.
12:20 DaemonFC; It's becoming hard to buy one that doesn't have "apps", but you can ignore the apps.
12:20 bnchs; i didn't but i guess he did
12:21 matey; /me doesnt own a tv, but at least you can still buy a monitor
12:21 DaemonFC; It's built-in obsolescence. Within 5 years none of the apps work anymore even if you want to use them and you'd have to plug in a stick.
12:21 bnchs; the remote has a fucking microphone
12:21 DaemonFC; I don't know why apps in a TV are a selling point.
12:21 DaemonFC; The screen may work for 20 years, but the apps won't work in 4 or 5.
12:21 matey; its the gentrification of technology
12:21 bnchs; they call it a "magic remote"
12:22 bnchs; aka a wiimote with a microphone inside it
12:22 matey; yeah i think some people got busted for turning some public toilets into "magic toilets"
12:22 DaemonFC; To be perfectly honest, if it wasn't for the weight of them, and the fact that they're a power hog, I'd likely still be using a CRT television.
12:22 DaemonFC; It's bad enough whenever you move, you hurt your back with all of the other stuff.
12:23 DaemonFC; Most LED televisions today weigh just 15-20% of what a TV with half the screen size did in the CRT days.
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12:23 bnchs; because it's one thing i want
12:24 bnchs; a TV that records what i say
12:24 bnchs; calls it "magic
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12:24 matey; /me bought headphones that dont have bluetooth
12:24 matey; thats not a problem, except they have a mic thats built in
12:25 matey; thats not a problem, except laptop supports the connector with the built in mic
12:25 matey; /me opened the headphones and removed the mic
12:25 bnchs; "LG Magic Remote: The Voice Remote for LG AI Smart TVs"
12:25 bnchs; "LG Voice Mate"
12:26 matey; most headphones have a mic OR bluetooth. "neither" isnt much of an option unless you want earbuds
12:26 matey; lg voice mate, the remote control that "mates" with you
12:26 DaemonFC; It can't transmit that anywhere if you don't give it an Internet connection.
12:26 matey; most headphones have a mic OR bluetooth <- obviously if you go higher end theres more selection
12:26 bnchs; DaemonFC, he gave it
12:27 bnchs; the joke is that the "magic" remote has dedicated buttons for streaming services
12:27 bnchs; like disney+, netfilx and shit
12:27 matey; the magic toilets also had streaming servi-- okay, okay
12:28 matey; and shit <- you already said disney+
12:28 bnchs; LG magic AI toilet
12:28 bnchs; has a microphone and camera
12:28 bnchs; to monitor your shit
12:28 bnchs; and LG shit mate
12:28 matey; upload your farts to the cloud
12:29 matey; alexa-- oh, sorry
12:30 matey; people from the mid 20th century would not understand our modern hihg-tech toilet jokes
12:30 matey; "whats a 'magic toilet'?"
12:30 matey; "you really dont want to know. but if you REALLY want to know, just read 1984"
12:30 DaemonFC; Disney Minus
12:31 matey; "winston had been having trouble ever since he checked out that new restaurant"
12:31 DaemonFC; I watched the first episode of that new Halo series.
12:31 DaemonFC; It looks like Amazon has used it to clone The Mandalorian.
12:31 bnchs; halo
12:31 matey; o/
12:31 bnchs; aka microsoft-owned show
12:31 bnchs; i mean game
12:31 bnchs; and sohw
12:32 matey; red vs blue was better
12:32 matey; /me stopped watching it after they bought github
12:33 bnchs; they put cortana as a character in halo
12:33 matey; i thought it was the other way around
12:33 bnchs; well it is
12:34 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hd0Z2Ok3f1c the voice of cortana
12:34 bnchs; they put cortana in windows
12:34 TR Bot; Exclusive Interview with Jenn Taylor (the voice of Cortana) at E3 2013 - Invidious
12:34 bnchs; with the voice actor of cortana
12:34 bnchs; jenn taylor
12:35 bnchs; wait wtf is this
12:35 bnchs; "Microsoft's "Windows in the car" concept"
12:35 matey; microsoft has been in cars for years
12:35 matey; whats "windows in the car"
12:36 bnchs; it was referenced in the cortana article
12:36 bnchs; i think it's this https://medium.com/msft-space/windows-10-on-the-car-789c69863d56
12:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/msft-space/windows-10-on-the-car-789c69863d56
12:36 TR Bot; 10, in the car. Windows 10 is almost everywhere: its | by Mehedi Hassan | MSFT Space | Medium
12:36 bnchs; "The idea for Windows 10 Auto is pretty simple. When you get in the car, you can simply dock your Windows 10 mobile into the car, or connect it via a wire which will automatically start Windows 10 Auto."
12:37 matey; your windows 10 mobile?
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12:38 bnchs; yes
12:38 bnchs; you plug your windows 10 mobile into the windows 10 car
12:38 bnchs; so that you get introduced to more microsoft bullshit
12:38 matey; /me digs up an old copy of "if microsoft made cars" from 199... whenever email was invented
12:39 matey; (i know it was way before 1990)
12:39 matey; 70s?
12:39 matey; https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm
12:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: harvard.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm
12:39 TR Bot; If Microsoft Made Cars
12:41 bnchs; yes
12:41 bnchs; now this time, when windows crashes
12:41 bnchs; you're gonna lose control of the car and die
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12:47 matey; if you try to park, it will demand you drive around in circles for 45 minutes while it installs updates
12:49 bnchs; no worse
12:49 bnchs; when it finds an update, it will give you about 10 minutes
12:49 bnchs; before it dies on the road
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12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 19.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 297.88
13:05 DaemonFC; Windows 10 car. S Mode. Microsoft Gas Station only. 30% surcharge. "For safety!"
13:06 DaemonFC; I don't know how people are defending app stores that take 30% and leave you with no other choice.
13:06 MinceR; http://www.dorktower.com/files/2022/03/Dorktower1945.jpg ( http://www.dorktower.com/2022/03/21/secret-saucy-dork-tower-21-03-22/ )
13:06 TR Bot; Secret Saucy DORK TOWER 21.03.22 Dork Tower
13:06 matey; appathy
13:06 DaemonFC; If they bought a car that made you use Shell gas stations and pay a 30% fee because you couldn't go to the Marathon gas station across the street becuase your car was designed not to run on it, would they accept this too?
13:06 MinceR; worship of money
13:07 MinceR; corporation has tons of money and therefore it is sacred
13:07 MinceR; and can do no wrong
13:07 matey; If they bought a car that made you use Shell gas stations and pay a 30% fee because you couldn't go to the Marathon gas station across the street becuase your car was designed not to run on it, would they accept this too? <- in the eu, probably
13:07 DaemonFC; MinceR, A gas station up in Wisconsin was sued by other gas stations.
13:08 DaemonFC; They are complaining that the station isn't charging as much as they are for gas, and demand $80,000 each in compensation.
13:08 matey; wow
13:08 DaemonFC; The station being sued is a Woodman's grocery store with a gas station in the parking lot.
13:09 DaemonFC; The complaint reads that by charging people 30 cents less per gallon, nobody is going to the BP or Shell stations in the area because they know to go to Woodman's instead.
13:09 matey; obviously theyve never heard of bjs
13:09 matey; (its a chain of stores. i didnt name them)
13:10 matey; (yes thats the name of the chain)
13:10 DaemonFC; You can't make this shit up. They are using a state "unfair pricing" law arguing that people should be forced to pay more for gasoline.
13:10 DaemonFC; The intent of the law appears to be that consumers can sue if they feel they're being gouged.
13:11 matey; apparently it was poorly writtten
13:11 DaemonFC; Maybe a consumer group should sue the BP and Shell stations complaining that they're being gouged and will be damaged if those stations succeed in their lawsuit against Woodman's, and therefore they are each owed free gasoline from BP and Shell as compensation.
13:11 DaemonFC; "We are suing you because we are being harmed by your lawsuit against them."
13:13 DaemonFC; Walmart has some really sad lemons.
13:13 DaemonFC; I got some from Jewel that are twice as big and seedless for just 35 cents more per pound.
13:13 kingoffrance; flexnet was the first hawaii ISP, and then at least had dial up over continental us at least. $9.95, no tech support. pass the savings on to you . anyhow, founder said he had similar accusations from the other ISPs at the time
13:13 kingoffrance; */month. worked fine with bsd/linux/etc.
13:14 DaemonFC; Well, if they really save money by offering no technical support then they're not unfairly pricing the product if it costs less and you don't need the tech support anyway.
13:14 DaemonFC; Microsoft charges less for the version that comes without any tech support.
13:15 kingoffrance; well i just mean, this probably happens more often, just not in public where people find out about it
13:15 DaemonFC; Yes, Microsoft has a tech support hotline. I don't know why.
13:15 kingoffrance; you are forcing me to lower my prices! criminal!
13:15 DaemonFC; Everything they run you through is all of the fix me wizards that don't work, and then wiping the system and starting over, which also sometimes does not work.
13:15 kingoffrance; ohn D. Rockefeller once professed, "competition is a sin."
13:16 DaemonFC; It's a cute idea, fix me wizards all over Windows.
13:16 DaemonFC; They could fix the bugs in the network stack, or.....they could just kick the network stack over and start it again. Tada!
13:16 kingoffrance; its funny how they turned wizard which was probably more dynamic like "ninja" into "robot"
13:17 DaemonFC; Start the wizard! Which wizard?
13:17 DaemonFC; The Grand Imperial Wizard.....
13:17 DaemonFC; Whoops, wrong wizard.
13:17 kingoffrance; the intention i guess was to be "dynamic" but they only have so many "choose your own help desk adventure" paths
13:17 kingoffrance; the times i used to use those, tend to just go in circles and once you exhaust all the paths and didnt solve your issue, "contact your system administrator" or whatever lol
13:19 kingoffrance; i guess that is how tech support works too though. they have to go through script to eliminate all the common things, before you get any real support
13:19 kingoffrance; it does sort of simulate tech support in that sense lol
13:19 matey; after getting drung and playing pin the tail on the donkey, we have determined that the best course of action is to send a reset packet to your modem
13:20 matey; really? thats the only answer youve ever given
13:20 matey; "sure, but its our only excuse to drink at work"
13:20 DaemonFC; I just used the free ISPs.
13:20 kingoffrance; juno?
13:20 DaemonFC; There were various ways of crashing the ad banners or getting your hashed login credentials and using regular Dial Up Networking.
13:20 DaemonFC; Yeah, Juno was one of them.
13:21 DaemonFC; When they all started going under, they spent a couple years limiting you to like 20-30 hours a month.
13:21 DaemonFC; So I signed up for all of them and then I had like 150 hours each month.
13:21 matey; lol
13:21 DaemonFC; When one gave me the boot, I'd just dial into another account.
13:22 DaemonFC; Well, they were meant to be ad supported, but that meant Windows program.
13:23 DaemonFC; So I'd use a program called Dialguard to intercept the phone call and to catch the hashed username and password in Windows, then I knew what to type in to get it working in Mandrake Linux and on my Sega Dreamcast.
13:23 DaemonFC; Then I could just sit there and play Quake III or something online.
13:24 DaemonFC; Microsoft only recently shut down the Internet Games server for Windows Me. For the Internet Checkers and stuff.
13:24 DaemonFC; I don't know why they even had those.
13:26 DaemonFC; They limited the things you could tell the other player to stuff like "Nice move!" because they didn't want it to turn into stories like "49 year old man proposes indecent relationship with child over Microsoft Internet Checkers" so you couldn't even chat with your opponent.
13:26 DaemonFC; And it just connected you to someone randomly, so you didn't know who you were playing against and you couldn't talk to them.
13:28 kingoffrance; yeah i always found that strange
13:28 kingoffrance; stuff like kali back in the day, you'd meet strangers first and chat and decide who to play with
13:29 kingoffrance; this was like speed dating random people in the phone book lol
13:29 kingoffrance; for those games i guess it didnt matter, but still weird
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13:37 DaemonFC; Dating is hell. I was reading about a guy who went out on dates with women at expensive restaurants and then slipped out and left them with the bill.
13:37 DaemonFC; They finally caught him and charged him with 8 felony counts of theft by deception.
13:37 DaemonFC; One of them was interviewed and said he just kept eating and eating. Especially the crab legs.
13:38 DaemonFC; And she was shocked that such a small guy could put away so much food.
13:40 DaemonFC; MinceR, I like Red Dwarf. Especially Arnold Rimmer. They were talking about people who had made the ultimate sacrifice.
13:41 DaemonFC; And Rimmer says, "Ah yes, Captain Oates....Well, they obviously forged his journal. They're not going to say January 5th, ate the last bits of Captain Oates dabbed in gravy with the last packet of instant mashed potatoes.".
13:42 MinceR; :>
13:43 MinceR; one would hope they'd eat all the packets of instant mashed potatoes _before_ they resort to cannibalism
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13:43 bnchs; DaemonFC: lol
13:44 bnchs; that guy doesn't love women
13:44 bnchs; he just uses women to get what he really loves, food
13:45 DaemonFC; <MinceR> one would hope they'd eat all the packets of instant mashed potatoes _before_ they resort to cannibalism
13:46 DaemonFC; Well, it's deliberate. It tells you how much of a misanthrope Rimmer really is.
13:46 bnchs; anyway thats based
13:46 DaemonFC; They resorted to eating Captain Oates along with all the rest of the food to make the food last longer.
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13:46 DaemonFC; Because then Oates wouldn't get any, and they could eat him as well.
13:48 TR News; Top 10 Linux Distributions for Programmers in 2022 [Featured] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163045
13:48 TR Bot; Top 10 Linux Distributions for Programmers in 2022 [Featured] | Tux Machines
13:48 TR News; Ubuntu-Based Feren OS 2022.03 Released with KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS, Various Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163046
13:48 TR Bot; Ubuntu-Based Feren OS 2022.03 Released with KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS, Various Improvements | Tux Machines
13:49 MinceR; :>
13:50 bnchs; linux distributions for programmers
13:51 bnchs; what does this mean
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13:54 schestowitz-TR; it makes sense
13:54 schestowitz-TR; but maybe can be spun with words
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13:54 schestowitz-TR; because the CLI is, in essence, a programming tool
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13:55 schestowitz-TR; at the very least in batching
13:55 schestowitz-TR; like .BAT files
13:55 schestowitz-TR; but sure, it can do more
13:55 schestowitz-TR; bash, ksh etc
13:55 matey; lol
13:55 schestowitz-TR; some distros go out of their wayo to hide it
13:55 schestowitz-TR; so those also exclude some useful tools
13:56 schestowitz-TR; you might be able to add them
13:56 schestowitz-TR; if they are in the repos
13:56 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032211
13:56 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/091iciwa8kn81.jpg created on 2022-03-22 03:15:05.023076
13:56 schestowitz-TR; otherwise it's tricky
13:56 schestowitz-TR; so as a programmer you might have precompiled IDEs
13:56 schestowitz-TR; a good distro for programmers makes it easy to access and use dev tools
13:56 schestowitz-TR; or, like in gentoo, customise your experience
13:57 schestowitz-TR; like change (e.g. remove) some bits before the OS gets compiled
13:57 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, how would you deal with a """smart""" tv
13:57 schestowitz-TR; I'm too smart to buy one
13:57 MinceR; deprive it of an Internet connection :>
13:57 schestowitz-TR; I've not had a TV in more than 20 years ;-)
13:58 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, it's a "smart" tv for dumb people
13:58 bnchs; just like dumb tv for smart people
13:58 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: if you trust it not to
13:58 schestowitz-TR; we have open wifi connection
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14:00 MinceR; we don't
14:00 bnchs; it uses a proprietary OS
14:00 bnchs; with linux kernel
14:01 MinceR; even non-"smart" tv-s do
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14:01 MinceR; for example, the monitor tv on my desk runs Linux
14:01 MinceR; and it's not a "smart" tv
14:01 schestowitz-TR; "sorry, sir, you let an extra 0 slip in there.."
14:01 schestowitz-TR; (orrrrr.......)
14:01 bnchs; MinceR: but they don't have as much power than "smart" tvs do
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14:02 matey; not part of gnu: https://www.gnugk.org/
14:02 TR Bot; GNU Gatekeeper - a free VOIP Gatekeeper for H.323
14:02 schestowitz-TR; GNU Greg Korah
14:02 schestowitz-TR; Kroah
14:03 MinceR; :>
14:03 matey; gnuvell?
14:03 schestowitz-TR; Kroah Heartless
14:03 matey; wikipedia: "GNU Gatekeeper is an open-source project that implements an H.323 Gatekeeper based on the OpenH323 or H323Plus stack."
14:03 matey; "GNU Gatekeeper is an open-source"
14:03 schestowitz-TR; with a DASH
14:04 schestowitz-TR; which means NOT compliant with OSF
14:04 schestowitz-TR; *OSD
14:04 matey; osf = open source foundation?
14:04 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, you mean patents?
14:04 matey; open software foundation?
14:04 schestowitz-TR; There used to be OSA
14:04 schestowitz-TR; Alliance
14:04 schestowitz-TR; iIRC, Microsoft killed it
14:04 schestowitz-TR; by joining it
14:04 matey; funny how they do that
14:04 schestowitz-TR; the other member got so pissed off
14:05 schestowitz-TR; that the criminal that bribes official is not "part" of the same thing
14:05 schestowitz-TR; why would they pay into it?
14:05 schestowitz-TR; and it collapsed
14:05 matey; https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GNU_Gatekeeper
14:05 TR Bot; GNU Gatekeeper - Free Software Directory
14:05 schestowitz-TR; that was like 15 years agi
14:05 schestowitz-TR; *ago
14:05 matey; verified by "ted teah"
14:05 schestowitz-TR; I think we covered it at the time
14:05 bnchs; so i dug deeper into the software that the "smart" tv runs
14:05 matey; Jan Willamowius Maintainer
14:05 bnchs; it's webos
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14:06 schestowitz-TR; palmos->HP->LG
14:06 schestowitz-TR; Samsung uses Tizen and other stuff
14:06 bnchs; there's webos open source edition which is not open source nor free
14:06 schestowitz-TR; it was never 'proper' open
14:06 schestowitz-TR; even Palm Inc. would not release it
14:07 schestowitz-TR; Cobalt or whatever they called it around 2004-5
14:07 schestowitz-TR; they just said "Linux'
14:07 bnchs; phone manufactors making their own crappy OSes
14:07 bnchs; to lock in people more
14:08 matey; this project is 20 years old
14:08 schestowitz-TR; not just phones
14:08 schestowitz-TR; tablets similarly
14:08 schestowitz-TR; desktops/laptops it's a mix
14:08 bnchs; yes
14:08 matey; https://www.gnugk.org/download/OSTS2004.pdf <- 2004
14:08 bnchs; they bought it from palm and HP
14:08 schestowitz-TR; because you can swap
14:09 schestowitz-TR; at one point HP made its own distro
14:09 bnchs; they did this to limit the amount of customizability the user can do
14:09 schestowitz-TR; and it seemed like the criminal killed it (MicrosofT)
14:09 schestowitz-TR; lots of mergers and splits in mobile linux
14:09 bnchs; in android-based, the source code of android was free
14:09 bnchs; and widely-available
14:09 bnchs; with many custom ROMs
14:10 schestowitz-TR; tizen, limo, moblin (intel)...
14:10 bnchs; you could port a custom ROM to a device provided you know it's technical details
14:10 schestowitz-TR; Orange had its own too around LinuxWorld 2005
14:10 bnchs; so they tried to fight this
14:10 bnchs; they made their own OS with rarely any custom ROMs
14:10 schestowitz-TR; Nokia made about 3 Linux-based OSes
14:10 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft killed them al
14:10 schestowitz-TR; the criminals are good at killing things
14:10 schestowitz-TR; not making things
14:11 schestowitz-TR; jolla is still around
14:11 bnchs; the point is
14:11 schestowitz-TR; they now call it sailfishOS
14:11 bnchs; why would LG not use android
14:11 schestowitz-TR; and other names
14:11 bnchs; and even then
14:11 bnchs; why would they keep the source code closed
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14:12 bnchs; which brings me to my theory, they did this to get away from android
14:12 bnchs; which had many custom ROMs
14:12 bnchs; and all of them easily portable
14:13 TR News; Parrot OS 5.0 Adds New Architect, IoT, and Cloud With Long Term Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163047
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14:15 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: for android there was oha
14:15 schestowitz-TR; open handset alliance
14:15 schestowitz-TR; around 2008 or 07
14:15 schestowitz-TR; that was gulag's way of getting the forkers and branchers in the same boat
14:15 schestowitz-TR; instead of them taking aosp and then doing their own thing
14:16 schestowitz-TR; to cause 'fragmentation'
14:16 bnchs; even then, in the webos hacking/cracking community
14:16 bnchs; they only managed to modify the kernel
14:16 bnchs; they couldn't modify more than that before it was proprietary
14:16 bnchs; and maybe inject some "apps"
14:17 schestowitz-TR; app yours
14:18 bnchs; they made their own OSes to gain back control of the users
14:18 schestowitz-TR; wow, this 3-hour video will take 10 hours to encode on 4 cores
14:18 bnchs; and only gave them a small piece of the source code
14:18 bnchs; and maybe the kernel (because GPL and shit)
14:18 schestowitz-TR; maybe I should split the video, process on numerous machines with ffmpeg, than merge the resultant files
14:18 schestowitz-TR; but it would be a lot of work passing around the files
14:25 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D184.jpg
14:25 matey; github.com/AdaCore/gnat-llvm
14:25 matey; This is an Ada compiler based on LLVM, connecting the GNAT front-end to the LLVM code generator to generate LLVM bitcode for Ada and to open the LLVM ecosystem to Ada. Note that we are not planning on replacing any existing GNAT port that's based on GCC: this project is meant to provide additional, not replacement, GNAT ports.
14:25 matey; :)
14:27 bnchs; github
14:27 MinceR; :3
14:27 bnchs; ada > rust
14:28 matey; officially its fine that its developed on github because copyright is assigned to the fsf
14:28 MinceR; http://www.dorktower.com/files/2022/03/Dorktower1946.jpg ( http://www.dorktower.com/2022/03/23/hold-the-pickles-dork-tower-23-03-21/ )
14:28 TR Bot; Hold the Pickles DORK TOWER 23.03.21 Dork Tower
14:29 matey; rms: Do Not Use Github (for gnu)
14:29 bnchs; matey: developed on github on behalf of fsf?
14:29 matey; adacore: hold my beer
14:29 bnchs; or is it just a mirror
14:29 matey; also adacore: its fine, we assigned copyright
14:29 matey; its not just a mirror
14:29 matey; i dont care about (actual) mirrors
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14:30 matey; this isnt new, ive known about this for more than a year. the only new part is gnat-llvm, which i thought was slightly amusing
14:30 matey; but its not a replacement, its just a porn
14:30 matey; port
14:30 matey; maybe unix porn
14:30 bnchs; it's just porn
14:31 schestowitz-TR; mirrors are not a huge deal
14:31 matey; muscle memory and alexy are similarly treacherous
14:31 schestowitz-TR; just do not accept "PRs"
14:31 matey; its not a mirror
14:31 schestowitz-TR; or allow "Issues"
14:31 schestowitz-TR; it's the same with Twitter as a copy of diaspora posts
14:31 matey; thats the criteria i go by basically
14:31 schestowitz-TR; the problem is, you still receive replies in Twitter
14:32 matey; all you have to do with prs is 1. say please dont send prs in the readme.md
14:32 matey; 2. close prs with "please do not send prs"
14:32 matey; if at that point you still get spammed with prs somehow, dont respond
14:32 matey; then its a strict mirror
14:33 matey; many so-called mirrors are acting like repos
14:33 matey; some strict mirrors are actually strict, thats good
14:33 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, lol that's what they do
14:33 matey; even if the mirror doesnt follow a strick policy, but it looks abandoned, thats alright
14:33 bnchs; they can't disable PRs
14:33 bnchs; so they simply ignore PRs
14:33 matey; they dont ahve to disable prs
14:33 bnchs; or redirect them to the mailing list
14:34 matey; i stop counting it as a mirror if they start using prs
14:34 matey; but if they dont respond (or better, close and redirect) thats not so bad
14:35 matey; the thing is, you cant stop people from mirroring free software
14:35 matey; so it also matters who put it there
14:35 matey; theres no way to script this stuff-- its detective work
14:35 matey; even machine learning wouldnt be terribly useful for this
14:37 matey; of course you could have scripts pick up some of the data for you, but they couldnt evaluate it anyway
14:38 matey; https://www.gnu.org/software/pth/ <- not github based, author is active on github (this year) 227 projects
14:39 matey; so the project is okay, but the developer still thinks github isnt a problem
14:39 matey; we are going to find out i think that MOST gnu devs dont consider github a problem
14:39 matey; which says a lot about gnu imo
14:39 matey; or the state of free software
14:40 matey; historically, it says nothing about gnu. this applies to the state of it today
14:40 kingoffrance; or the state of "free hosting"
14:40 matey; historically gnu is maybe the most important operating system created (unix itself being major competition for this title)
14:40 matey; <kingoffrance> or the state of "free hosting" <- thats letting them off easy
14:41 bnchs; matey: oh my gawd the dev has a github??
14:41 matey; there have been usable alternatives to github since before the purchase
14:41 bnchs; holy shit this is the state of GNU
14:41 bnchs; gnu is like dying
14:41 matey; straw man.
14:41 bnchs; even though the source code is primarily hosted in GNU
14:41 bnchs; matey: yeah i know
14:41 matey; what im saying is, most gnu devs probably dont think its a problem that microsoft has mostly taken over free software
14:42 matey; because they keep using it.
14:42 kingoffrance; "there have been usable alternatives" sure sure sure but 1) like what 2) why are devs avoiding them
14:42 kingoffrance; what are the justifications? not saying tehy are good or bad "reasons"
14:42 matey; kingoffrance when microsoft bought github, 200,000 people left
14:42 matey; sourceforge, notabug
14:43 matey; savannah is based on sourceforge (an old free version of it)
14:43 bnchs; i would say
14:43 bnchs; sourceforge hosts CVS aswell
14:43 matey; also framagit (now closed)
14:43 kingoffrance; hmm, didnt know that about savannah
14:43 matey; many people left for gitlab
14:43 matey; and now there is sr.ht
14:43 matey; just to add to viable options
14:43 matey; for selt hosting there is also gitea
14:44 matey; self
14:44 matey; and these are just the least stupid examples (imo)
14:44 matey; for stupid examples (but not as stupid as trusting microsoft) there are still more
14:44 kingoffrance; is it ironic wasnt git written because bitkeeper wasnt quite "free" ...and now people jump right into github
14:44 matey; you know savannah isnt only for gnu? its also for nongnu.org
14:45 kingoffrance; s/ironic/repeat of history/
14:45 matey; if by ironic you mean part of a multi-billion dollar strategy to take over free software, then yes
14:45 bnchs; you need to give money to sourcehut
14:45 bnchs; to put your project there
14:45 bnchs; which i understand
14:45 matey; i didnt know sr.ht was paid
14:45 matey; at least they have a business model
14:45 kingoffrance; well i mean people should have learned the first time
14:47 matey; non-profit hosting works too
14:47 matey; at least in theory
14:47 matey; in practice its holding up better than the organisations themselves
14:47 matey; as long as you dont need them to do guidance or advocacy
14:47 matey; or fundraising
14:49 matey; a lot of projects are very small and their needs are modest
14:49 matey; github is honestly overkill for those
14:50 matey; but when people look to leave they want-- basically microsoft word to do a shopping list
14:50 schestowitz-TR; [14:33] <matey> they dont ahve to disable prs
14:50 schestowitz-TR; it's vendor lockin
14:50 matey; what i meant was
14:50 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft won't let them turn it off
14:50 matey; if they are unable to disable prs
14:50 schestowitz-TR; but such mirrors wont' save the github near-monopoly
14:50 matey; then all they have to do is politely refuse them and tell people to use the
14:50 matey; there are existing practices for running a strict mirror
14:50 matey; they work
14:50 schestowitz-TR; just like twitter cannot, by letting people make "mirrors" there
14:50 schestowitz-TR; twitter is dying
14:51 matey; people that care keep the mirror strict
14:51 schestowitz-TR; they hide this by funneling remainig traffics to celebs and politicians
14:51 schestowitz-TR; *remaining*
14:51 matey; at any rate, i dont panic about strict mirrors
14:51 schestowitz-TR; to fake "Engagement" levels, in essence by funneling
14:51 matey; but mirrors that turn into secondary repos run the risk of moving to github as the primary repo
14:52 matey; by not standing up to the lock-in
14:52 schestowitz-TR; true
14:52 schestowitz-TR; Torvalds isn't tolerating it
14:52 schestowitz-TR; deep inside he knows github is an attack on git
14:52 schestowitz-TR; but his boss is COO of GitHunb
14:52 schestowitz-TR; which is funny
14:52 schestowitz-TR; COO
14:52 schestowitz-TR; think about it
14:52 matey; linux doesnt have to be inside microsoft-- microsoft is inside linux
14:52 schestowitz-TR; that's her job at LF
14:52 schestowitz-TR; she is part of the COO
14:53 matey; (theres peanut butter in my chocolate)
14:53 matey; lf is also an attack on git
14:53 matey; sfc is an attack on git
14:53 kingoffrance; well, just put up goatse when someone sends a PR <j/k>
14:53 matey; the fact that prs exist isnt the problem
14:53 schestowitz-TR; sfc is hardly even important
14:53 kingoffrance; theyll get the message quick
14:54 matey; the problem is that while some projects discourage them, most dont care
14:54 matey; sfc is hardly even important <- prove it
14:54 schestowitz-TR; let's work in reverse
14:54 schestowitz-TR; prove they ARE importantt
14:54 schestowitz-TR; they failed to oust RMS
14:54 matey; disputed
14:55 schestowitz-TR; and they through many resources and even their reputation into the bonfire
14:55 matey; and even their reputation into the bonfire <- demonstrably false
14:55 schestowitz-TR; gnome foundation
14:55 schestowitz-TR; osi
14:55 schestowitz-TR; look what happened
14:55 matey; if their reputation is in the toilet, why do so many high-profile projects (including git) still do business with them
14:55 schestowitz-TR; osi head vanished
14:55 matey; which osi head?
14:56 schestowitz-TR; gnome: bully de blanc and her boss gone
14:56 schestowitz-TR; deb came from sfc
14:56 schestowitz-TR; where she had raised ms money
14:56 schestowitz-TR; also oin while microsoft bought shares in it
14:56 matey; deb came from fsf, where she was in charge of membership for ages
14:56 schestowitz-TR; after fsf
14:56 matey; then she defected to sfc and osi
14:56 schestowitz-TR; and now nothing
14:57 matey; or perhaps sfc is the new osi
14:57 schestowitz-TR; there are two side
14:57 schestowitz-TR; side a
14:57 schestowitz-TR; side b
14:57 schestowitz-TR; if you leave side a to b
14:57 schestowitz-TR; and then discredited in b
14:57 schestowitz-TR; you are done
14:57 matey; osi = {lf, sfc, clearlydefined}
14:57 schestowitz-TR; bully and others are barely employable
14:57 matey; thats where they went
14:58 schestowitz-TR; they were thrown under the bus
14:58 schestowitz-TR; or made to fall on the sword
14:58 schestowitz-TR; and they took a bad position
14:58 schestowitz-TR; like chief exec of osi
14:58 schestowitz-TR; he will be disposable
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 291.56
14:59 schestowitz-TR; like people who went to work for andrew lee in freenode
14:59 schestowitz-TR; maybe got a salary or two
14:59 schestowitz-TR; and that was it
14:59 matey; you say the same about ibm and github
14:59 matey; its all just going to magically disappear
14:59 schestowitz-TR; now they're labeled as the people who took freenode from hero to zero
14:59 matey; twitter and fb too
14:59 schestowitz-TR; it's complicated
14:59 matey; its ridiculous
14:59 schestowitz-TR; the us government bails them out
14:59 schestowitz-TR; because they're strategically beneficial to empire
15:00 schestowitz-TR; so they are becoming a burden on taxpayers
15:00 schestowitz-TR; like "too biug to fail" banks
15:00 schestowitz-TR; how does goldman sachs help the us taxpayer?
15:00 matey; you realise the one thing that can save them is downplaying the threats they pose, yes?
15:01 matey; historically, thats what saves such things
15:01 matey; or makes them last longer
15:01 kingoffrance; thats why theres "big tech"
15:01 schestowitz-TR; giafam?
15:01 kingoffrance; ^
15:01 matey; <kingoffrance> thats why theres "big tech" <- a term roy insists helps microsoft
15:01 kingoffrance; gets all the heat off ms + gov.
15:01 schestowitz-TR; matey: no
15:01 schestowitz-TR; I show leaks
15:02 schestowitz-TR; it's a term Microsoft lobbyists promoted
15:02 schestowitz-TR; while Microsoft did lots of crimes
15:02 kingoffrance; i dont know, but i tend to believe schestowitz-TR because it only showed up recently IMO
15:02 kingoffrance; all the "free market" types LOVED ms through the 90s
15:02 kingoffrance; capital success story
15:02 schestowitz-TR; microsoft for exposed
15:02 kingoffrance; evil DOJ is just jealous yo
15:02 kingoffrance; haters hate success
15:02 schestowitz-TR; and then they changed the news cycle
15:02 schestowitz-TR; by faking a "leak" of Vista 11
15:02 schestowitz-TR; previously unheard of
15:02 kingoffrance; and then out of nowhere...one day came "big tech" narrative
15:03 matey; big tech can be used against microsoft
15:03 matey; just say theyre part of it
15:03 schestowitz-TR; and it was just Vista 10 with some UI tweaks
15:03 kingoffrance; am i to believe all these "business people" suddenly 180ed? dont buy it.
15:03 matey; imo
15:03 kingoffrance; i have no proof, but i tend to believe schestowitz-TR on "big tech"
15:03 matey; o i believe his story about the lobbyists
15:03 kingoffrance; *capitalist
15:04 matey; but the big tech narrative is one that people can get behind, if it can be shown that microsoft is part of it
15:04 schestowitz-TR; i'll get you the links
15:04 matey; just say microsoft IS big tech
15:04 matey; i dont need the links, ive seen them.
15:04 matey; im not disputing the lobbying
15:04 schestowitz; getting the news links
15:04 matey; gafa was specific
15:05 matey; it excluded microsoft
15:05 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22031953
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15:05 matey; so gafam pins m microsoft back onto microsofts own diversion
15:05 matey; its silly to think the same cant be done with big tech-- its exactly the same trick
15:05 schestowitz; the videos I did about this include http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ and http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/
15:05 TR Bot; Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights
15:05 TR Bot; Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights
15:06 matey; anyway, github helps microsoft more than the words "big tech" do
15:06 kingoffrance; i would say similar trick about "twitter" being "private" ...with their manual of recommendations for gov usage
15:06 kingoffrance; put on your columbo hat matey
15:06 matey; and that was lobbied for for literally years
15:06 schestowitz; https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/
15:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dailycaller.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/
15:06 TR Bot; EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Document Appears To Show Microsoft Helped Write Big Tech Bills | The Daily Caller
15:06 schestowitz; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-23/microsoft-may-duck-house-antitrust-push-as-republicans-cry-foul
15:06 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
15:06 *kingoffrance <slap> i'm private! <slap> 'im public!
15:07 matey; i think the problem kingoffrance is youre trying to convince me of something i already see
15:08 matey; microsoft is big tech
15:08 matey; it can be used against them just as much as "gafam" is
15:08 matey; originally gafa
15:08 kingoffrance; id say the same with cryptocoin, but may be exceptions
15:09 matey; the thing is, theres a lot of "awareness" (read: exposure) to "big tech"
15:09 matey; beacuse of the lobbying
15:09 matey; that could be hijacked and turned directly against microsoft
15:09 schestowitz-TR; faang is even worse a term
15:10 schestowitz-TR; if you consider what firms are listed and why
15:10 schestowitz-TR; it's worse than microsoft whataboutism
15:10 matey; /me has never come across faang except here
15:10 matey; i think it was a prototype for gafa
15:10 schestowitz-TR; gafam is me and assange
15:10 schestowitz-TR; we came up with it in twitter
15:10 matey; theres no reason big tech couldnt be used the same way
15:11 matey; microsoft IS big tech
15:11 matey; gates is still one of the 10 richest people on earth
15:11 matey; so is ballmer
15:11 matey; not sure whats keeping nadella
15:12 schestowitz-TR; a lot of it is grossly overvalued stock
15:12 schestowitz-TR; basically bubble
15:12 schestowitz-TR; defrauding shareholders
15:12 schestowitz-TR; the inside traders can win this
15:12 schestowitz-TR; at the expense of middle class savers
15:16 kingoffrance; i dont disagree matey about turning it back on them, just think its better if people ignore all the catch phrases
15:16 kingoffrance; in the long run
15:17 *kingoffrance whispers marketing people HATE this secret
15:18 *kingoffrance whispers THEY dont want you to know
15:19 kingoffrance; its like the "everything is a file" catch phrases lead to straw men attacks
15:20 kingoffrance; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law someone should make that into an opera or something
15:20 TR Bot; Brandolini's law - Wikipedia
15:20 kingoffrance; brandolini brandolini
15:21 schestowitz-TR; windows registry is also a file
15:21 schestowitz-TR; just not a very good file
15:22 schestowitz-TR; fragile, flaky
15:22 kingoffrance; yeah, exactly!
15:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe many files for the same thing
15:22 schestowitz-TR; iirc, over a decade ago gnome emulated the same broken design
15:24 bnchs; windows registry is a file?
15:25 bnchs; so basically, whats wrong with /etc
15:31 matey; just think its better if people ignore all the catch phrases <- it is better. but we live in a world where most people dont
15:31 matey; the question imo is what to do with that
15:32 matey; "big tech" "actually that just helps microsoft" <- one approach, valid
15:32 matey; "big tech" "including microsoft, yes" <- another approach
15:32 matey; and basically what gafam did
15:32 matey; because gafa was "big tech" beta version
15:32 schestowitz-TR; (backing up breaking machine)
15:32 schestowitz-TR; (ssd)
15:33 matey; iirc, over a decade ago gnome emulated the same broken design <- gconf
15:33 schestowitz-TR; LMDE 5 and KDE Neon are nice, gnu/linux has gotten super-easy to install and is VERY nice out of the box
15:33 matey; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gconf-editor
15:33 matey; From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Gconf-editor is a discontinued utility for the GNOME desktop environment used to maintain the old and now discontinued GNOME registry gconf
15:33 schestowitz-TR; devuan and debian text-based installers are only for pro users
15:34 kingoffrance; you look in the jargon file, you see ibm and the 7 dwarves. then ibm and the bunch. and "dinosaur mating" . that explains "dino babies" -- trying to desparately spin that they are not a dinosaur.
15:34 schestowitz-TR; my LAN over wifi gives me about 1gbytes/mins
15:34 matey; GConf was replaced by GSettings mechanism (provided by GLib) which uses dconf as backend by default if it's available but can use keyfile backend or GConf backend (legacy only); memory backend (RAM only) and null backend
15:34 kingoffrance; point: "big tech' was alway around, nothing new 2) "big tech' will hijack phrases for their own benefit
15:34 schestowitz-TR; big oil, big banks
15:34 schestowitz-TR; banks= bailouit
15:34 matey; "big tech' will hijack phrases for their own benefit <- even gnu and free software
15:34 schestowitz-TR; oil-subsidy
15:34 schestowitz-TR; what next?
15:34 kingoffrance; you said it best matey : without cause and effect all meaning is lost
15:35 schestowitz-TR; taxpayers-funded and bailed out ICBM and MSFT?
15:35 kingoffrance; its kind of pathetic, why does ibm think the jargon file is a threat lol
15:35 schestowitz-TR; while the execs cash in big?
15:35 schestowitz-TR; ballmer, gates, blankfien...
15:35 schestowitz-TR; *fein
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15:35 kingoffrance; its like accusations about putin living in 1900 or whatever
15:36 kingoffrance; part of this too i think is appearance of "progress" or "progressivism" has to always be maintaned, doubly so for steps backwards
15:36 kingoffrance; i wouldnt call it "bias" i would call it marketing spin
15:37 matey; where the gconf (gnome registry) gsettings moved to: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
15:37 TR Bot; XDG Base Directory Specification
15:37 matey; <kingoffrance> its kind of pathetic, why does ibm think the jargon file is a threat lol <- because people thinking for themselves is a threat to marketing (and vice versa)
15:37 kingoffrance; emphasis on "apperance"
15:37 kingoffrance; *appearance
15:38 kingoffrance; trump said the same in not so many words. he was injecting new life into a dead party in his mind
15:38 matey; big surprise, mr systemd is on the board of the gnome registry XDG Base Directory Specification
15:38 kingoffrance; (not going there, just saying it transcends "wings")
15:38 kingoffrance; (or: it can be pulled off with a "conservative" facade as well)
15:39 matey; you can put a face on anything-- look at cars
15:39 matey; o ___ o
15:39 kingoffrance; yeah, that's a good phrase
15:39 kingoffrance; russian dolls lol
15:40 matey; one of then signed the anti stallman letter https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
15:40 matey; good luck guessing which
15:40 matey; (nope)
15:44 kingoffrance; "so basically, whats wrong with /etc" nothing, just if the original meaning is lost (plaintext, simplicity, pipelines, versus custom binary formats with specialized tools) then it becomes a mess. i do think it breaks at some point, like any abstraction, i.e. plaintext configuration files eventually become their own specialized formats needing special tools. but then IMO that shows it is not the "everything is a file" or not mentality that i
15:44 kingoffrance; s to blame
15:44 kingoffrance; problem is post-utf "there is no plaintext"
15:44 kingoffrance; so it is confusion of tongues now
15:45 kingoffrance; or people mixing metaphors anyway
15:47 matey; theres a fallacy whenever you do this
15:47 kingoffrance; you step in the stream, but the stream has moved on
15:47 matey; language has always mutated-- you seem to base a lot of arguments on the fact that there was an "established" meaning and now its "confused"
15:48 matey; but the established meaning of yesterday was the confused meaning of the age before it
15:48 kingoffrance; sure.
15:48 kingoffrance; i dont deny that
15:48 matey; that doesnt mean it cant get worse--
15:48 matey; but it was never perfect to begin with
15:48 kingoffrance; ^
15:49 kingoffrance; so there both always was something wrong with "everything is a file" and something not wrong with it
15:49 matey; granted
15:50 matey; "everything is a file" was either hype, or a nice idea that was abandoned for practical (HOPEFULLY practical) reasons
15:50 kingoffrance; ultimately it is going to be that permitted discoursse window, daemon knows what it is called, i forget
15:50 matey; at best it is a tendency
15:50 matey; maybe a "style" or even an "approach" but certainly not a law
15:51 matey; if we treat styles as law, who do we have to blame but ourselves
15:51 kingoffrance; well it is a moot point, pipelines are long dead
15:51 matey; youre kidding
15:51 kingoffrance; perl/python/ all the scripting languages went another direction
15:51 matey; theyre used daily
15:51 matey; nope
15:51 kingoffrance; perl and python are pipelines?
15:52 kingoffrance; do one thing do it well?
15:52 kingoffrance; ruby?
15:52 matey; oh ok
15:52 matey; i see what you mean
15:52 matey; when you said pipelines
15:52 matey; i assumed | you meant | pipelines
15:53 matey; you mean unix philosophy
15:53 kingoffrance; one sec
15:53 matey; take your time
15:54 kingoffrance; https://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf
15:54 matey; i already know that url, that guy is a fucking idiot
15:54 kingoffrance; has nothign to do with url
15:55 matey; its the pdf?
15:55 kingoffrance; references are 1984 is the latest
15:55 matey; ok
15:56 matey; oh, pike and kernighan
15:56 matey; i believe pike (moved to google) was the one who pushed for the pipe, back when it was >
15:57 matey; but there was another, mcsomething
15:57 matey; maybe its in the pdf
15:57 kingoffrance; let me mention how many package managers tehre are
15:57 kingoffrance; and draw a parallel with 5 volume controls lol
15:57 kingoffrance; for each of those additional languages
15:58 matey; so all theyre saying is cat got out of hand
15:58 kingoffrance; :) yes, but that was 1980s already out of hand
15:58 kingoffrance; not sure of exact date of that paper
15:58 kingoffrance; it was already fading
15:59 matey; let me make a parallel to refute this.
15:59 matey; its a historical one
15:59 matey; you might even like it
15:59 kingoffrance; why does each language need a package manager? its not for unix philosophy, its becaues tehy watn to run on other OSes besides "unix"
15:59 matey; right
15:59 psydruid; > big tech can be used against microsoft
15:59 psydruid; > just say theyre part of it
15:59 psydruid; exactly what I think too
15:59 MinceR; because every package manager sucks
16:00 matey; but thats a loaded question-- no language needs a package manager, even if its cross platform
16:00 matey; /me thinks mincers answer is the right one
16:01 matey; so there used to be this theory-- which later suited the sensibilities of nationalist idiots
16:01 matey; that aryans came and conquored all the people of the indus valley
16:01 matey; with their superior culture and technology and weapons and warfare etc.
16:01 matey; came in, wiped out everyone
16:01 matey; took over, established the foundations of modern indian civilisation
16:02 matey; brought hinduism (which didnt exist then, but what is now hinduism, etc)
16:02 MinceR; nationalist idiots forgot that the aryans were brown people too
16:02 matey; well yeah but i mean brown nationalist idiots, not even the nazis (who bought the same story but couldnt afford technicolor because there was a war on)
16:03 matey; india has nationalists too, theyre a bit wrapped up in it at the moment
16:03 kingoffrance; likewise, lets quote python: We needed a better way to do system administration than by writing either C programs or Bourne shell scripts, since Amoeba had its own system call interface which wasnt easily accessible from the Bourne shel
16:03 matey; only "problem" is, they did genetic research on this thoery
16:04 matey; lets NEVER quote python. youd get better design ideas from any raving lunatic reeking of booze on the side of the road than youd get from the "stewards" of modern python
16:04 matey; id sooner use perl than whats become of python
16:05 kingoffrance; im not saying that is bad, im saying amoeba was a specific unix-like thing, that they didnt think shell was a good fit for
16:05 matey; anyway, the genetic makeup doesnt support the "superior aryan" theory
16:05 kingoffrance; which is not to say that was even the "wrong" decision, just i dont see unix philosophy had anything to do with it either way
16:05 matey; they didnt wipe out the ancestors
16:05 matey; they mingled.
16:05 kingoffrance; yes, unix is a mingling of prior ideas?
16:05 matey; the people of the indus valley are the descendants of both the aryans and the people they "wiped out"
16:06 matey; unix has mingled with other ideas-- its not wiped out at all
16:06 matey; granted it has mingled with some pretty bad ideas sometimes
16:07 matey; but if i wanted to use version 1, id be working on reviving version 1
16:07 matey; thats not a goal of mine
16:07 matey; i like SOME of the ideas that have come along since then
16:07 matey; some of them are awful too
16:07 matey; some of them should be thrown out-- and we should have choices
16:08 matey; but MOST of the messes are created by people trying to take us from what works for us
16:08 matey; and dragging us through fad after fad using market pressure
16:08 matey; and obviously im against that
16:08 kingoffrance; "why does each language need a package manager?" i should add, this is another reason "why cannot rust or <insert lang here> speak its native tongue at ABI level?" is ridiculous. people dont even agree on high level "package managers" where it should be easier to 'abstract", let alone low level things
16:08 matey; freedom 3 should make us immune to that! https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html
16:09 TR Bot; ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom
16:09 matey; but freedom 3 is a bit more fragile than the fsf admits (or even understands)
16:09 matey; in fact the unix philosophy (which rms openly never gave a shit about) is a boon to freedom 3
16:09 matey; and without it, freedom 3 may (continue to) suffer
16:09 psydruid; people in Europe are also descendants of indigenous populations and people closely related to the Aryans who settled in India
16:10 psydruid; surprise, people mingled
16:10 matey; yes but the story went: they got wiped out
16:10 matey; conquored-- killed off
16:10 kingoffrance; yes, philosophically that seems to always be a lie
16:10 matey; not "raised families together"-- thats what happened, its not the story though
16:10 kingoffrance; thats the ouroborus dragon lol
16:10 kingoffrance; he does that lol
16:11 matey; the thing is, unix philosophy can be brought back to fight for freedom 3
16:11 matey; it doesnt have to be pure, it simply doesnt have to sit in the shadow of corporate bullshit
16:11 matey; corporations LOVED unix
16:11 matey; of course they turned it into corporate bullshit
16:12 matey; and the irony being that-- unix was bell labs and very corporate (but)
16:12 matey; it was and it wasnt
16:12 matey; it was a small team, first of all
16:12 matey; second, it was a small team working with a system designed to be easy to port (because at&t couldnt do computers as a business)
16:13 matey; and when it got too big, other small teams formed (like at berkeley)
16:13 matey; and the bsd team was smaller than the bell labs team
16:13 kingoffrance; i never saved the "interview" but some claim they were told they can only design on a chalkboard/whiteboard, no implementing, because multics didnt go well. and they took their computers away from them. and they had to borrow something from psychology dept. IIRC? porting a game too. later, "word processing" was spun as this was all "planned".
16:14 *psydruid read all about Max Mller's "theories" years ago
16:15 matey; in the 80s, ritchie and thompson actually adopted a bsd codebase for research unix
16:15 matey; so bsd was both downstream and upstream
16:15 matey; not to mention that one of them went on sabbatical to ASSIST bsd
16:15 kingoffrance; a fiction book claims alexander the great landed somewhere, men where weary and just wanted to go home to their families but he wanted more land, so he burned their own ships (secretly) " oh no, they destroyed our ships! no going back" lol you want an OS? take away their computers and tell them no coding allowed lol reverse psychology lol
16:15 kingoffrance; that's like warcraft "bloodlust" spell lol
16:16 kingoffrance; *were
16:16 matey; burn your bridges, and build them back with wealth <- metallica, "holier than thou"
16:16 psydruid; that was the battle against King Porus
16:16 psydruid; a minor king in India
16:17 psydruid; or maybe another one, but this one was at the end of his reign
16:17 matey; multics went better than the story is told, but a lot of people left the project, including at&t
16:18 matey; i dont know which department they got the pdp 7 from, but it wasnt being used
16:18 matey; to get a better pdp, they sold the idea of text formatting software to the legal department
16:18 psydruid; I suspect Multics would work just fine with today's hardware resources
16:19 matey; the last multics instllation went offline in 2000-something
16:19 matey; it was used in military industrial applications
16:19 matey; like air traffic control that sort of thing
16:20 matey; the reason they went to the legal department is the legal department is like congress
16:20 matey; they can pretty much write their own budget
16:20 matey; so if they wanted software developed, all they had to do was ask for the funds
16:22 matey; today theres an it department so going to legal wouldnt work
16:22 kingoffrance; there's an emulator...
16:22 matey; you can login to a unix system v machine and use it from the term
16:23 matey; its at one of the computing museums (not the one in ukraine)
16:23 matey; i think its a british one
16:25 matey; i think the machine itself is an at&t mini computer
16:25 matey; possibly 32bit
16:27 psydruid; my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant
16:28 matey; this is actually something paul allen funded
16:28 matey; and its in seattle https://www.livingcomputers.org/Computer-Collection/Online-Systems.aspx
16:28 TR Bot; LCM+L - Online Systems
16:28 psydruid; and not so much Multics itself
16:28 matey; <psydruid> my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant <- do you assume thyere better than the ones in unix?
16:28 psydruid; "Multics on RISC-V"
16:29 matey; psydruid: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UYb6WqWBTE0 "Mark Allen - Before Unix: An Early History of Timesharing Systems"
16:29 TR Bot; Mark Allen - Before Unix: An Early History of Timesharing Systems - Invidious
16:29 psydruid; > <psydruid> my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant <- do you assume thyere better than the ones in unix?
16:29 psydruid; I want to read a book I have downloaded about Multics to find out more about it and to see if they might be better than those in Unix
16:30 matey; the guy in this video was involved with multics https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q07PhW5sCEk
16:30 TR Bot; 1963 Timesharing: A Solution to Computer Bottlenecks - Invidious
16:32 matey; my bet is you will find that unix simplified ideas that multics explored, and ritchie and thompson streamlined some things
16:32 matey; but of course if you learn something interesting from the book, i hope youll mention it
16:33 psydruid; there is only one way of finding out
16:33 matey; multics was a beast. from what ive learned about it, im not sure its more useful than unix
16:33 matey; but yes, i thought it was worth exploring, no reason you shouldnt explore it too
16:33 matey; sometimes going back farther gives just ONE really good idea that the "newer stuff" didnt need to abandon
16:34 psydruid; maybe it was too complex for its time
16:34 matey; i still think its cool (despite vax being a mess) that you could move running processes
16:34 matey; from one machine to another
16:35 matey; im sceptical that the complexity of multics was necessary at all
16:35 psydruid; I'm not sure OpenVMS can do that
16:36 psydruid; imagine moving processes from a machine using one architecture to a machine using another architecture
16:36 kingoffrance; ^
16:36 kingoffrance; that seems to have been abandoned, in favor of just migrating a whole vm
16:37 kingoffrance; for better or worse, modern stuff seems to have little interest in that level of granularity
16:38 kingoffrance; the "whole vm" is arguably simpler in some ways, or arguably it just avoids issues
16:39 matey; <kingoffrance> that seems to have been abandoned, in favor of just migrating a whole vm <- this is what im finding / summising too
16:40 matey; i dont know what commands vms used for process management, or what terms were used for moving processes
16:40 matey; so its very hard to determine if those are available in openvms
16:40 matey; if you move a whole vm, and you shut down the machine it was running on, no problem
16:40 psydruid; I couldn't even get a hobbyist licence for it, so that's that
16:41 matey; if you move all the necessary processes but one, and shut down the machine that was hosting them...
16:41 psydruid; as if they want knowledge about it to remain obscure
16:41 matey; kingoffrance raises the point that theyve managed to do this in a more modern and perhaps practical way with a vm
16:42 matey; or as if it simply isnt as useful as it once was
16:42 matey; tbh i think if you can write an os, you could make it so the processes could be tranferred over the network
16:42 matey; remember that move really means copy and delete
16:42 matey; so to move a process, youd actually copy it to another host
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16:42 matey; then terminate it
16:43 psydruid; that's probably the case, but it would be nice if there was at least some literature comparing the approaches
16:43 matey; and how do you copy a process? you copy the memory it uses, then you copy the pointers to it
16:43 matey; it would be nice <- sure, but the documentation probably gives you the information you need
16:43 matey; if you can find it
16:44 psydruid; I'll have a look at HPE's site
16:44 psydruid; or wherever I can find some book about the OS
16:45 matey; psydruid https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_decvaxvmstInternalsandDataStructures5.21991_146952745
16:45 TR Bot; dec :: vax :: vms :: training :: EY-C171E-DP VMS Internals and Data Structures 5.2 1991 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
16:47 kingoffrance; i imagine code itself (or some bytecode, whatever) is the easy part. the trickiness is resource (file handles, paths, single system image of RAM, etc.)
16:47 kingoffrance; *resources
16:47 psydruid; matey, that looks great, I wonder if there is something like that for Alpha too
16:48 matey; dec alpha?
16:48 *psydruid has Debian for Alpha installed in QEMU
16:48 psydruid; yes
16:48 matey; https://download.majix.org/dec/alpha_arch_ref.pdf
16:49 psydruid; I meant VMS on Alpha, but that definitely helps too
16:49 matey; fair enough
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16:50 psydruid; it's because of that emulated machine that I know that some of the code in Debian has issues with alignment
16:51 matey; AlphaVM does not actually emulate OpenVMS. AlphaVM emulates the DEC Alpha system hardware. As the result OpenVMS runs on the virtual hardware unmodified. Since the emulated hardware is Alpha, it is OpenVMS/AXP that runs on AlphaVM. In fact, for the user it may look like OpenVMS runs on the Intel x86-64 based hardware.
16:52 matey; www0.mi.infn.it/~calcolo/OpenVMS/ssb71/6459/6459p012.htm
16:52 matey; cause severe performance degradation on Alpha systems, DEC C for OpenVMS Alpha systems aligns data on natural boundaries by default. To override this feature and retain VAX (packed) alignment, specify the # pragma nomember_alignment preprocessor directive in your source file or use the /NOMEMBER_ALIGNMENT command line qualifier.
16:53 matey; psydruid: http://www0.mi.infn.it/~calcolo/OpenVMS/ssb71/6459/6459ptoc.htm
16:53 TR Bot; Migrating an Application from OpenVMS VAX to OpenVMS Alpha
16:53 kingoffrance; yes, thats another reason "speak rust natively" is a non-sequitor.
16:53 kingoffrance; turns out, different hardware has different abi requirements to avoid "severe performance degradation"
16:53 psydruid; matey, all useful links, thanks
16:53 matey; cheers
16:54 kingoffrance; and the places that doesnt matter, will see it as "bloat" if they have all this "unneeded" "padding"
16:54 matey; /me is still working on that honourary masters of library science
16:56 matey; kingoffrance: maybe its a scam to make rust seem more important (and c less relevant)
16:56 matey; or less "scam" more "just bullshit"
16:57 psydruid; I was thinking about that earlier
16:57 matey; the best bullshit needs a kernel of truth of course-- then it has to be twisted
16:57 kingoffrance; ^
16:57 matey; or to put it gently: marketing
16:57 kingoffrance; why is everyone afraid of two-sided draco. just say forked tongue dragon lol
16:57 kingoffrance; one side is good, one is bad lol
16:58 matey; in the tree of life neither side is bad
16:58 matey; its the one side without the other that doom is derived from
16:58 matey; the details without the big picture-- the details themselves arent the problem
16:58 psydruid; if C is fundamentally broken and complex, if C++ is fundamentally broken and complex and if Rust is fundamentally broken and complex, what other programming language could or should we use?
16:58 matey; judgment without mercy-- judging itself isnt the problem
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.25
16:59 matey; no you see rust is exceptional!
16:59 matey; like america
16:59 matey; :D
16:59 psydruid; :D
16:59 kingoffrance; full of exceptions ? :D
16:59 kingoffrance; like english
16:59 kingoffrance; *engrish
17:00 matey; engrust.com
17:00 matey; github.com/engrust/engrust
17:02 matey; emotions without principles-- emotions themselves arent the problem
17:02 matey; (weird pairing maybe but i dont make the rules)
17:04 matey; why is everyone afraid of two-sided draco <- what do you mean by "fear", "pachad" or "ruach" (being afraid or in awe)
17:04 matey; both meanings of "fear" can cause trembling
17:04 matey; both translate to "fear" in english
17:04 kingoffrance; no i mean everyone talking about jesus earlier, but this is not the place
17:06 matey; /me wonders if finding the "true abi" for language will manage to exclude (or disadvantage) some physical architecture that someone wants excluded or disadvantaged
17:06 matey; not just any true abi, the ONE true abi :P
17:06 *kingoffrance stares at java, objective-c, OO in general...........
17:07 kingoffrance; everyone wants that grail
17:07 matey; subjective-c?
17:07 kingoffrance; i prefer volatile, story of mel
17:07 matey; the real hacker?
17:08 matey; codes to sync on drum storage rotations, hold my beer?
17:08 matey; optimises for drum rotations ^
17:08 kingoffrance; it would make migrating across machines easier, each instruction can be overridden. just kills all performance
17:08 kingoffrance; someone in another channel said opcodes (for x86?) each are effectively a branch...so mel won out...
17:08 matey; ctrl-alt-del on everything?
17:08 MinceR; > couldnt afford technicolor because there was a war on
17:08 MinceR; lol
17:09 matey; ntsc = never twice the same colour... pal = people are lavender
17:10 kingoffrance; let me revise that
17:10 kingoffrance; for poetic reasons, not commenting on reality
17:10 *kingoffrance stares at java, objective-c, OO in general corpses hanging from tree
17:14 MinceR; just learn oop
17:14 matey; oop i did it again
17:14 matey; oop is actually useful for some things. the main problem is that some things != all things
17:14 *psydroid9 tends to think that there is a universal abi of language that subsequently gets mapped to natural languages in an imperfect way
17:15 MinceR; there are enough languages that support oop but don't force it on you
17:15 matey; YES
17:15 matey; and python did this reasonably well (enough that i didnt hate it, but approved)
17:15 matey; this was after years of watching people who LOVED oop use it to screw up languages that already worked well (and were fun)
17:15 matey; and python came along said "look, im not a dick"
17:16 matey; then google bought python and python was like "im a dick, im a dick"
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17:16 matey; then python sold itself to microsoft
17:16 matey; twice
17:17 MinceR; c++ does it well, common lisp does it well
17:18 kingoffrance; im just saying it didnt play out like the marketing. 5 package managers, instead of one class that multiple things can call. it is not either-or of course, abstractions can be built after-the-fact on top
17:18 kingoffrance; chaos dragon, err, finds a way
17:20 MinceR; void dragon?
17:22 kingoffrance; yes :)
17:26 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22031912
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18:00 matey; GNU Pascal (GPC) is the official Pascal compiler of the GNU project. It is compatible to Standard Pascal as defined in ISO 7185, and it implements "most" of the ISO 10206 Extended Pascal standard. Unlike Free Pascal, GPC is not self-hosted, i.e. it is not able to translate and build itself.
18:01 matey; im not sure you would want every gnu compile to be self hosted (though for c and c++ at least, it would be nice if c could compile them)
18:01 matey; every compiler that self hosts needs to be bootstrapped (as far as i know)
18:02 matey; unless perhaps the compiler is written in a subset of itself which is available a stub for another language for boostrapping
18:03 matey; like theres a mini pascal compiler implemented in c that can be used to compile the latest (Self hostiing) pascal compiler
18:04 matey; youd maintain the pascal compiler then each time you came out with a new one youd make sure the stub could still bootstrap it
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18:41 bnchs; matey: you would NOT want a self hosting compiler
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18:47 matey; bnchs other than the caveat i already mentioned, why not?
18:47 bnchs; well self hosting does seem good
18:47 bnchs; but
18:48 bnchs; what if the new version of compiler
18:48 bnchs; introduces a new feature that it will use in the newer version
18:49 matey; okay so this begs the question
18:49 matey; if the compiler isnt self hosting, what should it be implemented in
18:50 bnchs; c
18:50 matey; so basically just what i imagined
18:50 matey; youre better off implementing a compiler in c (or a language implemented in c)
18:50 matey; because then you only have to bootstrap the compiler
18:50 matey; rather then you only have to bootstrap the c compiler
18:50 schestowitz-TR; iirc, matlab is written inc
18:51 schestowitz-TR; *in c
18:51 matey; you dont have to bootstrap each language that is implemented with a
18:51 matey; most languages are implemented in c i think
18:51 matey; certainly not all
18:51 schestowitz-TR; but c still needs a compiler, and those need tokenisers
18:51 schestowitz-TR; like lex and yacc
18:51 schestowitz-TR; or flex
18:51 bnchs; yes
18:51 schestowitz-TR; so parsers are another layer
18:52 schestowitz-TR; and I'm not sure if they're based on c themselves or some machine code
18:52 matey; they wouldnt be based on machine code
18:52 bnchs; matey: rust compiler is written in rust
18:52 schestowitz-TR; this is where I deplore some absolutists
18:52 schestowitz-TR; they go down to silicon
18:52 bnchs; and this has caused some problems
18:52 schestowitz-TR; like physically silicon
18:52 schestowitz-TR; not semi-conductors
18:52 schestowitz-TR; what if...
18:52 bnchs; which made someone
18:52 bnchs; make a C++ bootstrap compiler for rust
18:53 schestowitz-TR; yes, well... you cannot check your wafer with a microscope, not usefully anyway
18:53 schestowitz-TR; btw, I have a dump question
18:53 schestowitz-TR; how was rust developed?
18:53 matey; you cannot check your wafer with a microscope, not usefully anyway <- nor would you
18:53 schestowitz-TR; *dumb question, sort of
18:53 schestowitz-TR; remember gcc was "made on unix"
18:54 matey; you would check the pattern that goes to the lithograph before it goes to the silicon
18:54 schestowitz-TR; and gnu emacs was developed on some proprietary editor
18:54 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, yeah uhhh
18:54 matey; and theres a difference between autonomy and "absolutism"
18:54 matey; for example, if you want a chip intel no longer makes
18:54 matey; whether you can check it or not isnt the point, intel doesnt make it-- you want more, someone else has to make them
18:55 matey; thats autonomy, its got nothing to do with absolutism
18:55 matey; like physically silicon not semi-conductors <- ...
18:56 bnchs; thats a good question
18:56 bnchs; i think it was written in C++
18:56 bnchs; and then they rewrote it all in rust
18:56 bnchs; to make it self-hosting
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18:58 matey; implementing an unstable language that constantly wants things rewritten in itself was a pretty silly thing to do
18:58 matey; rust is a compiler for calvinball
18:58 bnchs; and thats the problem
18:58 bnchs; you wanna compile rust?
18:58 bnchs; compile from the very first version
18:58 bnchs; to the very last version
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 15.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.61
18:59 matey; the method i outlined for a self hosting compiler was saner
18:59 kingoffrance; i thought we agreed all there is is calvinball? "language has always mutated"
18:59 matey; but there are very few advantages to a self-hosting compiler
18:59 bnchs; writing the compiler in C?
18:59 bnchs; making it easier to compile that way?
18:59 bnchs; nah thats boring
19:00 matey; boring = reliable
19:01 bnchs; yeah
19:01 bnchs; but do you really want rust fanatics breathing down your neck
19:01 bnchs; "memory unsafe language!!!!"
19:02 matey; who wants a memory safe langauge implemented in an implementation designed to forget itself?
19:02 kingoffrance; thats pretty much it
19:02 kingoffrance; when i do this its perfectionm, when you do same exact thing its a crime
19:02 matey; <kingoffrance> i thought we agreed all there is is calvinball? "language has always mutated" <- we also ceded that there are different levels of stability and instability
19:03 matey; order is relative stability and chaos is unacceptable levels of instability
19:03 kingoffrance; nah, theres only instability covered up with veneer of "order". humans are infinitely fallible
19:03 kingoffrance; i am with "commies" on this
19:03 matey; humans are infinitely fallible <- okay, prove it :)
19:04 kingoffrance; it cant be proven, because it cannot be comprehended
19:04 kingoffrance; humans lack omniscience
19:04 kingoffrance; i am with q from star trek on this too
19:04 kingoffrance; :)
19:04 matey; it cant be proven because you cant prove the proof isnt an example of fallibility
19:05 matey; q ex machina
19:06 matey; if youre omnipotent you cant be impotent, so one thing q never worries about is qed
19:06 kingoffrance; no, the fact a human cannot prove it supports it
19:07 matey; no, the fact a human cannot prove it supports it <- so its a circular argument
19:07 kingoffrance; thats how people roll
19:07 kingoffrance; like a dragon lol
19:07 matey; "love is... like a circle" i now pronounce you chuck and larry
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19:08 kingoffrance; well lets get back on topic.. i think you are looking for "logic" "truth" where there is none. it is just "who" is doing something that determines "good" or "bad"
19:08 kingoffrance; "when" maybe
19:08 matey; actually mi is who
19:09 matey; but that would agree, because mi is unreachable
19:09 kingoffrance; mi's on first?
19:09 matey; sometimes his wife comes out and gives him money
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19:11 matey; truth is also mi
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19:12 matey; actually sorry, truth is...
19:12 matey; truth is also mi <- no
19:13 TR News; Inherent limitation in both synergy and barrier (latest): they assume you have no more than 2 computers to the left, two to the right, and one above, one below. That limits what I try to accomplish with their GUI.
19:13 matey; though i knew someone who thought so, i think
19:13 TR News; 7 Best Free and Open Source Animation Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163048
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19:15 bnchs; so uhh news on vidya gaymes
19:16 TR News; Today's video will be 2.5 hours long, with focus on the EPO. Spent almost all day on maintenance tasks, not writing.
19:16 bnchs; facepunch's sequel to gmod (s&box) is gonna be using tim swine-e's engine, currently windows-only, and uses C# for the addons
19:18 kingoffrance; if rust is like this i think that guarantees they will 180 at some point
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19:19 bnchs; kingoffrance, you mean writing their compiler in rust?
19:19 bnchs; well that is gonna be true
19:20 bnchs; a big change in the syntax is enough to make the compiler uncompilable
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19:20 kingoffrance; that is part of it, i mean not having a standard outside of "the implementation itself"
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19:20 kingoffrance; "No, there is no sound formal specification of Rust at present. It will come when the language stabilises further" <-- when it stabilises further, they will 180
19:21 bnchs; yeah
19:22 kingoffrance; broken record, this makes it even more ridiculous "rust speaking its native tongue at abi level"
19:22 bnchs; they're doing a big mistake self-hosting their compiler this early
19:22 bnchs; it will make the compiler rely on deprecated features
19:22 kingoffrance; they hate c because they are similar on that point
19:22 bnchs; thus causing more headaches in the development
19:22 kingoffrance; love is blind :D
19:22 kingoffrance; sorry lol
19:22 bnchs; they'll either make the compiler tolerate deprecated crap to compile itself
19:23 bnchs; or implement hacks
19:23 bnchs; that gets enabled when it detects that it's compiling a rust compiler
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19:25 DaemonFC; Well, it's nice I can agree with dad about something. I mentioned the Orsk.
19:26 bnchs; m
19:26 DaemonFC; He said, "100% correct. It was an Alligator-class ship that could beach itself and vomit out 300 Russian bastards along with some tanks for them to burn to death in. The only tragedy was that I don't think it was full when the Ukrainians blew it up.".
19:26 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
19:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, NPR had a thing on the Peter Principle the other day.
19:30 DaemonFC; The host explained that instead of promoting people into management because they performed well somewhere else, you could "give them a better sounding job title" and "maybe even avoid a raise".
19:30 DaemonFC; She mentioned "Distinguished Engineer".
19:31 DaemonFC; Which is the title that K.Y. Srinivasan has at Microsoft. He works on Hyper-V, and submits patches regarding that for the Linux kernel.
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19:31 DaemonFC; I guess that means they screwed him out of a promotion and possibly a raise for a "more elite-sounding job title".
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19:33 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Distinguished Engineer is a genuine title at Microsoft, and definitely involves a raise
19:34 bnchs; distinguished engineer?
19:34 mjg59_; It's level 70 on the IC track
19:34 bnchs; should linus deserve that?
19:34 mjg59_; Oh, Linus would be a Fellow
19:35 mjg59_; (Which is the step above Distinguished Engineer at most big tech companies)
19:37 bnchs; ok
19:38 mjg59_; Once you're a fellow they stop giving you new titles - at Google there are multiple promotion levels within Fellow
19:39 bnchs; can you sue them?
19:40 mjg59_; It doesn't make you immune to being sued
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20:06 schestowitz-TR; Srinivasan used to be at Novell, IIRC
20:06 schestowitz-TR; gravitating where the money is, not freedom
20:07 schestowitz-TR; and then working on Microsoft crap, shimming in proprietary junkware with NSA hooks and interests
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20:14 TR News; How curious that Debian's official site has just RE-posted the statement on a volunteer that Debian management does not like. Don't they understand this only reaffirms the belief that they are afraid of him? ICBM already burned itself.
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20:16 mjg59_; "Volunteer" as opposed to "serial harasser"
20:17 TR News; Drawing 1.0 Simple Image Editor for Linux Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163050
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20:17 mjg59_; Who has repeatedly used other people's identitities without their permission
20:19 TR News; [GIT PULL] Ceph updates for 5.18-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220324172554.12797-1-idryomov@gmail.com/
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20:19 TR Bot; [GIT PULL] USB/Thunderbolt driver changes for 5.18-rc1 - Greg KH
20:19 mjg59_; schestowitz-TR: What do you mean by "re-posted"?
20:20 TR News; Private Social Network with Raspberry Pi and OpenSource Social Network Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163051
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20:21 TR News; I wonder how blind people get past the monstrosity that is gitlab. Even terrible Microsoft GitHub has some JS-free fallbacks for the BASIC functionality.
20:22 mjg59_; ?
20:22 mjg59_; There's no inherent conflict between javascript and accessibility
20:23 mjg59_; Accessibility tooling has access to the rendered state
20:23 TR News; ..that's not even to mention ANOTHER blind people-hostile layer: CLOWNflare.
20:24 activelow; rule of thumb: any website which can be rendered with a text-only browser (lynx, w3m, links) may more easily be coped with by screen-readers
20:24 mjg59_; activelow: Why?
20:25 activelow; semi-structured text-content extraction
20:25 mjg59_; That's orthogonal to it being renderable by a text-only browser
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20:26 mjg59_; It's important that contextual information be present so that a screen reader can interpret things appropriately
20:26 mjg59_; Whether that's plain HTML or something derived by javascript doesn't really matter
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20:28 activelow; gemini is probably the easiest to cope with in this regard
20:28 DaemonFC; mjg59_, I guess you'd know about Microsoft since they're the only ones who like your Shitter posts for the most part.
20:28 DaemonFC; Anyway, I'm sure you're aware that most of their employees are permatemps though.
20:29 DaemonFC; Permatemps, outsourced. They fired the entire US-based IE team after IE 6 went out.
20:29 TR News; Since my earlier days with Fedora I've always disliked how nepumok or baloo or akonadi were slaughtering or clobbering away at my systems as soon I put some file on them. Sometimes it takes a while to identify those culprits too (and store-related process are hard to permanently suspend). It makes GNU/Linux look bad.
20:29 DaemonFC; It was maintained by China after that.
20:29 DaemonFC; So this is all nothing new.
20:30 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Is your claim that someone with a "Distinguished Engineer" title at Microsoft is actually a temp?
20:30 DaemonFC; I suppose if you maintain the worst browser in the world and it's full of lulz and security hazards, you just want cheap labor anyway.
20:30 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> DaemonFC: Is your claim that someone with a "Distinguished Engineer" title at Microsoft is actually a temp?
20:30 DaemonFC; No.
20:30 mjg59_; Ok
20:30 mjg59_; So what's the relevance
20:30 DaemonFC; I never said that. I said most people who work there are either permatemps or outsourced.
20:31 DaemonFC; Microsoft doesn't care about code quality.
20:31 mjg59_; Right. I'm asking why that's relevant at all to the conversation
20:31 DaemonFC; The last version of Windows that even kind of worked okay was Windows 2000.
20:31 DaemonFC; When they "contributed" stuff that only works with their proprietary shit anyway to the Linux kernel, it was all seriously broken too.
20:32 DaemonFC; They funneled money through to Novell (at the time) to patch it all up, and I've honestly never seen a worse kernel module in my life than hv, even in -staging.
20:32 DaemonFC; And Microsoft had been shipping that to their customers in the shape it was in, and only released it eventually because of GPL violations.
20:33 DaemonFC; From what they've released as "open source" and from what's leaked out over the years, I mean, it's just hideous.
20:33 DaemonFC; And to have "Fellow" and "Distinguished" or even "Engineer" as a job title there is funny.
20:34 schestowitz-TR; don't chu know fancy job titles are one day to compensate for law salary?
20:34 schestowitz-TR; "sure, we'll pay you $50k a year, but WATCH THIS TITLE"
20:34 DaemonFC; IE for UNIX was even worse than anything else they've ever done before. They don't know how to port software now, and it was even worse then.
20:34 schestowitz-TR; "the ladies will be soooo impressed"
20:34 DaemonFC; If you had a different patch configuration on Solaris, IE would just crash and often take the kernel down with it.
20:34 DaemonFC; So I mean, userspace software doing THAT everyone.
20:35 DaemonFC; It actually comes in the notes for IE for Solaris which patches you need and it says if you have more patches, things can go wrong.
20:35 DaemonFC; So some guy reviewing old software on YouTube had to figure out how to construct the exact environment IE needed to run, and along the way he had it kernel panic Solaris when he loaded Internet Explorer.
20:36 DaemonFC; There's nothing like that going on today in GNU/Linux and I'm not even sure anyone but Microsoft managed it back then.
20:38 TR News; Welcome to KDE in 2022. Working desktops, two HD displays, widgets and all at just 500MB of RAM. A boss recently insinuated that any machine with less than 8GB of RAM is unfit for work. I had a good laugh at that...
20:38 DaemonFC; There's a very good reason to keep Microsoft repos out of your GNU/Linux distribution. Like General O'Neill said in an episode of Stargate SG-1, "Well, we could just toss a nuke down the hatch.". Replicators episode, I think. Anyway, Microsoft has done some truly retarded shit with their "Linux" packaging that has ruined the entire OS.
20:38 DaemonFC; So giving them a backdoor into your system to install whatever such packages they want is maybe perhaps not the greatest idea.
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20:40 DaemonFC; So people should (1) avoid distros that come with these repos, (2) if they really must use them, delete Microsoft's repos and signing keys and PURGE Microsoft programs that came on the system, and (3) don't ever install anything from Microsoft yourself.
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20:41 DaemonFC; It's nuts that people who are at least incompetent and usually malicious are allowed to go anywhere near a product that ships with a "Linux" distribution.
20:41 DaemonFC; Money talks.
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20:41 DaemonFC; I don't even think they usually pay much for deals like these.
20:42 mjg59_; schestowitz-TR: Total compensation for a distinguished engineer at Microsoft can easily be >$1,000,000
20:42 DaemonFC; Isn't the "Raspberry Pi Foundation" making money from the hardware sales? Do they really need a $20,000 one-off payment from Microsoft to backdoor the official OS for the thing?
20:42 DaemonFC; <mjg59_> schestowitz-TR: Total compensation for a distinguished engineer at Microsoft can easily be >$1,000,000
20:42 schestowitz-TR; too much
20:43 schestowitz-TR; not much to do with that money
20:43 schestowitz-TR; you die working for criminals
20:43 DaemonFC; Finally a salary for the Very Progressive Bay Area, where they just doubled the rent on an AIDS victim to drive him out of his home for the last 50 years.
20:43 schestowitz-TR; and you lack the time to enjoy life
20:43 DaemonFC; Matt Gulag says people there "get it".
20:43 schestowitz-TR; that compensation level also assumes US
20:43 schestowitz-TR; ICBM outsources the jobs
20:43 schestowitz-TR; and so the median pay at IBM is 7k a year, IIRC
20:44 schestowitz-TR; BEFORE tax
20:44 schestowitz-TR; after tax it can be like 45k
20:44 schestowitz-TR; median, inc. senior workers and managers
20:44 DaemonFC; $3,000 a month wasn't "enough". And if his 30 year old "stock investor" landlord doesn't manage to harass and litigate him out or get her $6,000 a month rent approved and chase him out that way despite the rent control law....
20:44 schestowitz-TR; of course they also kick out older workers
20:44 DaemonFC; Eviction by fire, and then the city will pretend to look into it and quietly let the issue die.
20:44 schestowitz-TR; so they have a decade or two to cash in
20:44 schestowitz-TR; then they get stigmatised "sinobabies" and discarded
20:44 schestowitz-TR; for not "upskilling;"
20:45 schestowitz-TR; (for being "too expensive")
20:45 schestowitz-TR; then they kill themselves, the spouse sues ICBM
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20:46 DaemonFC; I'm thoroughly convinced that the only way to improve San Francisco is a Tomahawk landing on top of the city council building. They're like Democrats on Steroids in there. They're like the usual Democrats. Racist and bigoted fucks disguising themselves in sheep's clothing. In there coming up with bad ideas, calling them "the law".
20:47 DaemonFC; The "rent control law" is unenforced and even when it is enforced, the landlords will literally torch the place themselves in the middle of the night and manage not to be truly investigated.
20:47 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, does microsoft hire shills to make their software look better
20:47 bnchs; i noticed this alot
20:47 DaemonFC; Then they'll sit on the burned-out building and cash "loss of rent" insurance checks until they're certain you're not coming back.
20:47 bnchs; people always talk about VS and their debugger and shit
20:47 DaemonFC; THEN they fix it and double the rent.
20:47 bnchs; but never what makes it "good"
20:48 DaemonFC; So, arson, insurance fraud, and violating rent control.
20:48 DaemonFC; And they get away with it because they're rich, and nobody seems to care.
20:48 DaemonFC; San Francisco.....where people "get it".
20:48 bnchs; DaemonFC: so you mean scamming the tenants
20:49 DaemonFC; In most places, insurance fraud would be investigated for sure, if nothing else, because insurance companies are powerful.
20:49 DaemonFC; <bnchs> DaemonFC: so you mean scamming the tenants
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20:49 DaemonFC; Yes, the landlords in San Francisco will stoop to anything, no matter how illegal, to raise rents.
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20:49 bnchs__; wow
20:50 DaemonFC; And the Dumbocrat Party of Illinois wants "rent control boards" that you have to pay to keep your rent "affordable", which means whatever they want it to of course.
20:50 DaemonFC; And then you just have more government playing The Bribe is Right.
20:50 bnchs__; so uhhh
20:50 bnchs__; what prevents them from clogging the drain
20:50 bnchs__; and adding that to their rent
20:51 DaemonFC; I had a landlord that was harassing me once.
20:51 DaemonFC; I mean REALLY harassing me.
20:51 bnchs__; why did he harass you
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20:51 DaemonFC; So I just started leaving everything electric on and the water running.
20:51 DaemonFC; <bnchs__> why did he harass you
20:51 mjg59_; California has stronger tenants rights than most states do, but the refusal to allow meaningful quantities of new construction means that the landlords are in a strong position to fuck people over
20:51 DaemonFC; Because SHE was insane.
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20:52 bnchs__; oh a she
20:52 mjg59_; Anyway, not tech related
20:52 DaemonFC; And then on my way out, I took pictures of all the shit she wasn't fixing and the city shut her down and told her no more leases anywhere until it was fixed to code.
20:52 bnchs__; DaemonFC, why in fact?
20:52 DaemonFC; Fined her $5,500.
20:52 bnchs__; why was she insane?
20:52 DaemonFC; Crazy/Mean
20:52 bnchs__; i mean why was she acting insane against you
20:52 DaemonFC; Usual "greedy landlord fuck" stuff going on though.
20:53 DaemonFC; Oh, she demanded in my apartment every day for like 5 months over a malfunctioning doorbell.
20:53 DaemonFC; She paid some stupid idiot to fuck it up worse than before each time.
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20:53 bnchs__; wow what a bitch
20:53 DaemonFC; Then she stopped notifying us she'd be out, and then she let herself in one day and I woke up with her standing over me in my bedroom.
20:54 DaemonFC; I told her that the door in back was broken and wouldn't shut. She didn't replace a $50 part.
20:54 bnchs__; wtf
20:54 bnchs__; now thats where i draw it
20:54 DaemonFC; So 6 months later, the upstairs people left the door open when it was 26 degrees below zero out.
20:54 DaemonFC; And the pipes exploded.
20:54 bnchs__; i wouldn't like to wake up with my landlord standing over me
20:54 DaemonFC; So I called her, and she paid a plumber emergency rates to come out, then she didn't fix the door.
20:54 DaemonFC; And it happened again.
20:54 DaemonFC; And she accused me of sabotaging her building.
20:55 bnchs__; wow
20:56 DaemonFC; Then when I moved out, she started calling me at 2-3 AM threatening that her husband was a lawyer and I told her "If you don't leave me alone, you're about to have a bigger problem than a month of unpaid rent after you forced us to find another apartment...".
20:56 DaemonFC; And she kept pushing, so she did.
20:56 DaemonFC; :)
20:56 DaemonFC; Anyway, never did hear from her after the city went in and shut her down.
20:57 DaemonFC; I'm guessing that she probably had to spend at least $12,000 in fines and repairs to get her license to rent apartments out back from the city, maybe more. I don't know what all was wrong with the place, but I took a lot of pictures of the obvious stuff.
20:58 DaemonFC; Then the city went after her with the anti-slumlord law.
20:58 DaemonFC; I reported her also for violating the Heat Ordinance.
20:58 DaemonFC; It says between November and May your landlord must keep the unit at a minimum of 68 F during the day and 66 at night.
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 50.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 312.75
21:00 DaemonFC; The problem for her is, after all of that, if you go after someone in court, they can point to the city's investigation and the court order saying the building is unlivable, and they created a "constructive eviction" and you owe them nothing.
21:00 DaemonFC; :)
21:00 psydruid; https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40834385.html
21:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: irishexaminer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40834385.html
21:00 TR Bot; Government to back bill banning sex for rent following 'Irish Examiner' probe
21:00 DaemonFC; Simply put, constructive eviction means that the tenant was forced to break the lease and so none of the penalties apply and since it was the landlord's fault, the remaining rent is no longer due.
21:01 DaemonFC; This can be due to.....unacceptable condition of the building, landord harassment, lots of things.
21:03 DaemonFC; It's kind of the nuclear option, but it works.
21:04 DaemonFC; I doubt many people are smart enough to tie up their landlord in court. They just get evicted and don't even show up to court and then wonder why they can't get another apartment.
21:05 DaemonFC; If you owe back rent and are going to be evicted, there's a couple things you can do to keep that part from happening. You can beat the landlord and file bankruptcy, which zeroes out the balance due and lets you stay in the place and not pay him while it makes its way through the court system.
21:05 DaemonFC; It also effectively gags any of your creditors from saying anything had happened that hadn't already been reported to credit bureaus before the filing date when the automatic stay goes into effect.
21:06 MinceR; lol @ titles at MICROS~1
21:06 MinceR; is dave cutler a "distinguished engineer" too? :>
21:06 DaemonFC; If you can't file, but you still don't want an eviction or forcible detainer case on your credit, you should get out, and give the landlord his keys and a letter stating that you are breaking the lease and you are no longer in possession of the apartment, by certified mail.
21:06 DaemonFC; They can still get you for unpaid rent, but it's not an eviction.
21:08 DaemonFC; MinceR, No, he's a DISTIN~1, and everyone else is a DISTIN~2, DISTIN~3, and so on.
21:08 MinceR; lol
21:08 MinceR; "are you absolutely, terminally clueless about engineer but want a big title and a big salary for churning out crap that destroys the IT industry? try getting a job at MICROS~1!"
21:08 MinceR; s/eer/eering/
21:09 DaemonFC; MATTHE~1 over there knows all about Microsoft, obviously.
21:09 MinceR; :>
21:09 MinceR; well, he'd better
21:09 MinceR; he served their agenda, after all
21:10 DaemonFC; Hey now, they used a paycheck condom called Red Hat and another one called Canonical.
21:10 MinceR; lol
21:10 DaemonFC; Linux is a cancer! Also, stuff it full of this NSA shit, please and thank you!
21:10 MinceR; :>
21:10 MinceR; "also, we love that cancer"
21:11 DaemonFC; MMMMMMMmmmmm Cancer!
21:11 MinceR; :>
21:11 DaemonFC; Windows is finally so bloated it's collapsed in on itself like a neutron star.
21:12 DaemonFC; If you unpack the WinSxS folder and the other stuff they used LZ77 compression on to hide the scandal, it wouldn't even fit on a 256 GB SSD.
21:12 DaemonFC; And that's just the OS.
21:18 DaemonFC; I can't imagine that Windows "11" has gotten any better on that front.
21:18 MinceR; :>
21:18 DaemonFC; It embarrassingly showed recently that the Windows "10" shell is still there, and just suppressed so that you can't see it.
21:20 psydruid; Windows "11" updates are a joke, just like the rest of the malware operation system
21:21 schestowitz-TR; [20:47] <bnchs> schestowitz-TR, does microsoft hire shills to make their software look better
21:21 DaemonFC; bnchs__, Anyway, when someone is pestering you with a court, you file a bunch of counter-motions very quickly that will all or mostly be dismissed.
21:21 DaemonFC; Their lawyer is charging them $200 to pick up the phone and $500 to draft a response to the court for each motion you file.
21:21 schestowitz; "If you cant make it good, at least make it look good."
21:21 schestowitz; Guy who visited Jeffrey Epstein in prison
21:21 bnchs__; lol
21:21 schestowitz; to try to make child trafficking for child sex look "good"
21:22 bnchs__; that's like making a sandwich with shit
21:22 schestowitz; (Bill Gates, Microsoft<)
21:22 bnchs__; the shit tastes like shit
21:22 bnchs__; so just make it taste good by adding tons of saucezs
21:22 DaemonFC; Well, my spouse's sister filed a motion to drop her support affidavit from our case. I didn't mention that I had a replacement ready to file.
21:22 DaemonFC; I objected to it and made her lawyer bill her for more hours.
21:22 schestowitz; maybe with enough "bill says" pieces in the media
21:22 schestowitz; they can even make "prince" andrew look good
21:22 DaemonFC; Then I dropped the objection and let it go through and filed my paperwork then.
21:22 bnchs__; BILL SEZ
21:22 schestowitz; and sex with children
21:23 schestowitz; "look good"
21:23 bnchs__; when someone wants to sexually harrass you
21:23 schestowitz; and epstein doing a "sanwich"
21:23 schestowitz; or a "bagel
21:23 bnchs__; that's no gewd
21:23 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/
21:23 TR Bot; Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel | Techrights
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21:23 bnchs__; no worse than stealing a bagel
21:23 DaemonFC; When she was all good and done, she had paid $2,000 to her lawyer for what she was originally quoted at $800, and then I filed my set of documents.
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21:23 bnchs__; lol thats fucking dumb
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21:23 DaemonFC; Always make people pay too high a price for continuing to harass you.
21:23 bnchs__; oh i stole a bagel
21:24 bnchs__; make me a sex offender
21:24 schestowitz; you pedo!
21:24 bnchs__; "hi i'm legally required to tell you i'm a bagel thief"
21:24 bnchs__; hide your bagels
21:24 bnchs__; there are bagel predators
21:24 schestowitz; Bagel stealer: stealing a bagel is no worse than smuggling thousands of young girls for sexual exploitaion
21:25 schestowitz; btw, isn't bagel a code word for something?
21:25 schestowitz; I heard of "pizza"
21:25 schestowitz; or "map"
21:25 schestowitz; the FBI has lists of these words
21:25 bnchs__; what does a bagel look lik
21:25 schestowitz; don't ask
21:25 DaemonFC; Everyone in Florida has to notify everyone else in Florida that everyone in Florida is a pedophile moving into the neighborhood.
21:26 schestowitz; but I beg they came up with some meaning for it
21:26 DaemonFC; (Not much of an exaggeration really.)
21:26 schestowitz; "hi bill, leave the wife behind, I gome some bagels for you"
21:26 bnchs__; "hi bill"
21:26 bnchs__; i went to the local bakery
21:26 bnchs__; and got you some BAGELS
21:26 bnchs__; wanna a bite?
21:27 DaemonFC; Illinois is a fucked up state full of braindead idiot Democrats....but it got one thing right. If you move into Illinois while you're on a sex offender registry, Illinois converts it to LIFETIME registration no matter how long you were required to register, and then even moving out of the state again won't get you off the list.
21:27 schestowitz; "no, jeffy, cannot"
21:27 bnchs__; come on
21:27 schestowitz; "I might have to spend 2 years pretending to be a COVID expert if Lolinda Gates catches me"
21:27 bnchs__; it's just one bagel
21:27 bnchs__; it won't hurt your reputation
21:27 DaemonFC; It's meant to deter people who are on the list from ever moving here unless they had lifetime registration anyway.
21:27 bnchs__; you can always do a #billpartner
21:28 DaemonFC; Like, if you got 10 years on the list in another state and you move here with 1 day remaining, you're on the list for life.
21:28 DaemonFC; Slows them down. Makes us get less trash from some other state.
21:28 schestowitz; bnchs__: how many #gatespartner in youtube are under 18\?
21:28 schestowitz; ok, never mind
21:29 schestowitz; at least they are not compelled by gatesfoundatiob to use the hastag #gatesplaymate
21:29 DaemonFC; You know, it's easy to forget that a few generations ago, people were expected to start having kids at 14-15.
21:29 DaemonFC; Like, my great grandmother got married at 14 and had her first child at 15.
21:29 DaemonFC; Nobody thought anything of it then.
21:29 bnchs__; ""Picking a PARTNER is CRUCIAL!" - Bill Gates"
21:29 bnchs__; Picking a BAGEL is CRUCIAL!
21:30 DaemonFC; The only reason states have to change their marriage laws now is you can't have laws meant for civilization when you let Muslims into your country.
21:30 bnchs__; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bhZa3J2cemM
21:30 TR Bot; Bill Gates opens up about his divorce and Jeffrey Epstein - Invidious
21:30 schestowitz; CNN coverup?
21:30 DaemonFC; There was a difference between letting a 14 and a 16 year old who were supporting themselves with WORK get married to each other, and letting some 60 year old Muslim pedo "marry" his victim.
21:31 schestowitz; CIA intern interviews him
21:31 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-16.jpg
21:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-16.jpg
21:31 DaemonFC; MinceR, They're doing a cat and dog food giveaway over at the school across the street.
21:32 TR News; "Another step forward for the mobile Lagrange: the first Android integrations have been done in the form of native text input, device status/navigation bar theming, and scroll behavior. According to my Alpha/Beta nomenclature, this ends the Alpha phase." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_android-beta1.gmi
21:32 DaemonFC; Purina donated several thousand bags of each and people were lining up to get it.
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21:32 bnchs; "and asks Gates about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein -- one Gates called a "huge mistake.""
21:32 bnchs; it was a big mistake taking that bagel jeff gave me
21:32 DaemonFC; I don't really need any. There's a lot of people who are having a lot of trouble feeding themselves, much less pets.
21:32 bnchs; i didn't know it was stolen
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21:34 bnchs; i prayed to god that day
21:34 bnchs; why i didn't choose donut instead of bagel
21:38 schestowitz-TR; you might want to look up meanings of these metaphors
21:38 schestowitz-TR; there might be codes there
21:38 schestowitz-TR; I'd not look that up in search (surveillance) engines
21:39 schestowitz-TR; the bagel metaphor might be even worse than we realise
21:39 schestowitz-TR; afaik, the terms keep hanging all the time
21:39 bnchs; i'm aware it could mean something
21:39 bnchs; like cheese pizza
21:39 schestowitz-TR; because the pedos don't want to get caught, so they keep shuffling words
21:39 bnchs; bagel is the shape of a hole
21:39 bnchs; i'll leave it to your imagination
21:39 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft Peter used quite a few code words
21:39 schestowitz-TR; he was arrested for raping kids
21:41 bnchs; bagels have holes
21:41 bnchs; like donuts
21:41 bnchs; they're seasoned
21:43 TR News; "For a long time Matrix has used Jitsi for it's call infrastructure but this poses an issue, it adds a single point of failure for group calls which for something like Matrix doesn't make sense so now Matrix finally supports calls over the Matrix network." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bLbZ13czCtc
21:43 TR Bot; Matrix Finally Has Proper Group Calls... Sort Of - Invidious
21:44 TR News; GNOME is VERY customizable - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sPrLLmSKJEg Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
21:44 TR Bot; GNOME is VERY customizable - Invidious
21:45 TR News; Linux kernel source tree: Pull RISC-V updates from Palmer Dabbelt https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=aa5b537b0ecc16992577b013f11112d54c7ce869 Source: git
21:45 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
21:46 TR News; "In the past two days the number of games validated for the Steam Deck has jumped pretty fast once more. There are now more than 1900 games working on the Steam Deck (1914 at the time of writing) in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/1900-games-on-the-steam-deck-with-wolfenstein-the-new-order-and-mortal-kombat-x-as-verified/
21:46 TR Bot; 1900 Games On The Steam Deck, with Wolfenstein: The New Order and Mortal Kombat X as Verified - Boiling Steam
21:51 TR News; ICBM hiring managers for southeast Asia from Microsoft and now... Cisco https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/getting-know-tammy-tan-country-manager-red-hat-malaysia
21:51 TR Bot; Getting to know Tammy Tan, country manager for Red Hat Malaysia
21:51 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, i might have figured out the code
21:52 bnchs; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagel_and_cream_cheese
21:52 TR Bot; Bagel and cream cheese - Wikipedia
21:52 bnchs; "A bagel and cream cheese (also known as bagel with cream cheese) is a common food pairing in American cuisine,"
21:53 schestowitz-TR; the bagel in't "fatass" enough
21:53 schestowitz-TR; let's throw lots of cheesy cheese at it!!
21:54 bnchs; american cuisine
21:54 bnchs; they put cheese on everything
21:55 TR News; Weird list as Gulag does crawl many of these https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-dark-websites-google-wont-find/#respond
21:55 TR Bot; 12 of the Best Dark Websites Google Won't Let You Find - Make Tech Easier
21:55 bnchs; devil's advocate
21:55 bnchs; but when you get used to eating tons of food
21:55 bnchs; your stomach just expands to handle that much
21:56 bnchs; and it means more hunger
21:57 bnchs; it's harder to diet that way, because you start feeling like a straving african in the first day
21:58 TR News; Drawing A MS Paint Similar Tool to Edit Images in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163050#comment-33213
21:58 TR Bot; Drawing 1.0 Simple Image Editor for Linux Released | Tux Machines
22:02 TR News; The Best compression utilities for Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163052
22:02 TR Bot; The Best compression utilities for Ubuntu | Tux Machines
22:07 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, i heard you like cheese in your burger
22:07 bnchs; so i put cheese in the cheese
22:07 bnchs; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Burger_King_Quad_Stacker_cheeseburger.jpg
22:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Burger_King_Quad_Stacker_cheeseburger.jpg
22:07 bnchs; just look at the juicy cheese
22:11 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22031868
22:11 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/dw5x62annun81.jpg created on 2022-03-18 22:19:38.274447
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22:16 schestowitz-TR; gnome has software called "cheese"
22:16 schestowitz-TR; but reference to "sau cheeeese"
22:16 schestowitz-TR; I've just installed webcamoid on the new lapto
22:16 schestowitz-TR; works well, but I'd not want to encode video on it, it's far to weak for such a task
22:17 bnchs; yes
22:17 bnchs; but it needs more cheese
22:20 DaemonFC; I'm stocking up on some things while they're on iBotta.
22:21 DaemonFC; Mandy likes my Kung Pao Chicken, but the cashews have gotten expensive. Big rebates right now.
22:21 DaemonFC; I'll just buy the maximum amount and stuff them in my pantry and then I can make it several more times on the cashews I bought real cheap.
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22:22 DaemonFC; I have about 80 pounds of chicken in the freezer right now.
22:22 DaemonFC; Something like that.
22:22 DaemonFC; 28 pounds of ground beef, iirc.
22:22 DaemonFC; 4 big chuck roasts.
22:22 DaemonFC; Lots of pork chops.
22:23 DaemonFC; Those were on BOGO at Jewel so I loaded up on those.
22:23 DaemonFC; I buy entire carts worth of cans at Aldi when I go over there.
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22:24 DaemonFC; You only save about a nickel per can vs. Walmart, but if you go over there and shop in bulk...
22:24 DaemonFC; I pretty much have my own private supermarket. About the only thing you can't stockpile is fresh produce.
22:24 DaemonFC; That spoils in days if you don't use it up.
22:25 DaemonFC; But even if the store ran out of everything, I have plenty of meat, canned vegetables, and spices to last a long long time.
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22:32 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/27/man-arrested-for-accidentally-discharging-his-rifle-in-occupied-apartment-building-in-johnsburg/
22:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/27/man-arrested-for-accidentally-discharging-his-rifle-in-occupied-apartment-building-in-johnsburg/
22:32 TR Bot; Man arrested for accidentally discharging his rifle in occupied apartment building in Johnsburg
22:32 DaemonFC; Called the police to report himself....
22:32 DaemonFC; They came out and arrested him.
22:32 DaemonFC; "Next time you have an idea....just go with it....."
22:38 TR News; New variant of Linux FUD in Microsoft sites http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-33214
22:38 TR Bot; VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines
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22:45 TR News; Releasing Slax 11.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163053
22:45 TR Bot; Releasing Slax 11.3 | Tux Machines
22:45 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163054
22:45 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:49 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22031853
22:49 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wrnv5dsgicn81.jpg created on 2022-03-18 17:27:56.167445
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 193.58
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23:21 MinceR; http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2393
23:21 TR Bot; Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/10/2022
23:51 DaemonFC; My Uncle Barry (an Uncle by marriage, my Aunt divorced him) refused a pension plan from RCA that didn't even cost anything to sign up for.
23:52 DaemonFC; He said, "I'm not going to retire from here!".
23:52 DaemonFC; Now he has no retirement income at all except a measly Social Security check that's barely enough to eat and pay rent with.
23:52 DaemonFC; Everyone figures that 30-40 years might as well be forever from now.
23:52 DaemonFC; Until they get old, can't work, and have nothing.
23:53 DaemonFC; And honestly, not having a 401(k) screws you in a lot of ways you don't even consider. The IRS might even give you part of the value back each year as a tax credit, and if you have to file bankruptcy, the court can't touch any of it.
23:54 DaemonFC; They can't make you take your retirement money to pay your bills with, so it's all protected no matter how much is in there, in addition to your exempt assets.
23:54 DaemonFC; Of course, you could choose to empty it later voluntarily after all of your debts go away and you need money to rebuild your life with.
23:54 DaemonFC; So it's a pile of cash your bill collectors can't get at.
23:58 DaemonFC; https://wpt.fyi/interop-2022?stable
23:58 TR Bot; web-platform-tests dashboard
23:59 DaemonFC; Safari and Firefox are passing more tests than Chromium browsers.
23:59 DaemonFC; Chrome really is the Internet Explorer 6 of 2022.
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