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00:00 TR News; One again this mindless "HEY HI!" BS https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/
00:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/
00:00 TR Bot; AI trojan horse techniques outpace defenses, study finds The Register
00:01 TR News; James Brutons strange bicycle robot self-balances with an omni wheel | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/26/james-brutons-strange-bicycle-robot-self-balances-with-an-omni-wheel/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
00:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/26/james-brutons-strange-bicycle-robot-self-balances-with-an-omni-wheel/
00:01 TR Bot; James Bruton's strange bicycle robot self-balances with an omni wheel | Arduino Blog
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00:02 TR News; #Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/25/cisa-adds-four-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
00:02 TR Bot; CISA Adds Four Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
00:02 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
00:04 TR News; "Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from February 18 to February 25." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/02/twig-32/ #gnome #gnu #linux #security
00:04 TR Bot; #32 Security Issues This Week in GNOME
00:06 TR News; #SparkyLinux changed repos signing https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-changed-repos-signing/ #poland #gnu #linux #debian
00:06 TR Bot; Sparky changed repos signing SparkyLinux
00:08 TR News; "The distro.tube website has been up for a couple of years. It is a static website written in Org mode in Emacs." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xH8rieN7aRI #gnu #linux #emacs #freesw
00:08 TR Bot; 20,000 Page Static Website Written In Org Mode - Invidious
00:10 TR News; Godot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.4.3 https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-4-3 #godotengine #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware
00:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-4-3
00:10 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.4.3
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00:11 TR News; [Algorithm] can detect DNA that unlocks backdoors in lab software - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
00:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
00:11 TR Bot; AI can detect DNA that unlocks backdoors in lab software The Register
00:12 TR News; #OpenOffice in 2022?? https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/02/how-to-install-openoffice-4111-on.html #LibreOffice better...
00:12 TR Bot; How to install OpenOffice 4.1.11 on a Chromebook
00:13 TR News; "Support services for both portfolios will continue for five years afterwards, meaning these will end in 2034 for Unix servers and 2035 for mainframes." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/fujitsu_signposts_the_end_for/
00:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/fujitsu_signposts_the_end_for/
00:13 TR Bot; End of road for mainframes and Unix systems, says Fujitsu The Register
00:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The Pixel has something called Google Pay.
00:14 DaemonFC; Walmart spent money installing "Samsung Pay blockers" in their credit card terminals.
00:14 DaemonFC; They demand you use a special app called Walmart Pay to pay with your phone.
00:14 TR News; #IBM CEO #ArvindKrishna is a malicious "dinobaby" https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ibm_motion_age_discrimination/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism
00:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ibm_motion_age_discrimination/
00:14 TR Bot; IBM fails to dismiss age-discrimination case linked to CEO The Register
00:14 TR Bot; IBM - Techrights
00:15 TR News; #ibm under #Kyndryl as #microsoft outsourcer with #clowncomputing varnish https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/kyndryl_aws/
00:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/kyndryl_aws/
00:15 TR Bot; Kyndryl signs partnership deal with AWS The Register
00:16 schestowitz-TR; is there something called "Gert Paid"?
00:18 TR News; "This is quick guide / tour howto install openSUSE Leap 15.4 (currently Alpha) on real PC." https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/opensuse-leap-15-4-installation-guide-usb-media-creation-multiboot-gnome-41-quick-tour/ #gnu #linux #opensuse
00:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: if-not-true-then-false.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/opensuse-leap-15-4-installation-guide-usb-media-creation-multiboot-gnome-41-quick-tour/
00:18 TR Bot; openSUSE Leap 15.4 Installation Guide [USB Media Creation, Multiboot, Gnome 41 Quick Tour] If Not True Then False
00:18 DaemonFC; Hi Ryan,
00:18 DaemonFC; Your package is arriving tomorrow.
00:18 DaemonFC; From T-MOBILE SPRINT
00:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, That must be like the BrundleFly.
00:18 DaemonFC; From The Fly.
00:18 schestowitz-TR; does mandy know?
00:19 schestowitz-TR; about your package arriving?
00:19 schestowitz-TR; here we say "parcel"
00:19 DaemonFC; My package is too large, sadly.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; poor baby
00:21 TR News; Surgically Implanted #Bluetooth Devices Dont Help Would-Be Exam Cheats | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/25/surgically-implanted-bluetooth-devices-dont-help-would-be-exam-cheats/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
00:21 TR Bot; Implanted Bluetooth Devices Dont Help Would-Be Exam Cheats | Hackaday
00:21 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
00:23 TR News; The #LibrePlanet 2022: Living Liberation schedule is here for 19 & 20 March https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-libreplanet-2022-living-liberation-schedule-is-here-for-19-20-march #FSF #GNU #FreeSW #SoftwareFreedom
00:23 TR Bot; The LibrePlanet 2022: Living Liberation schedule is here for 19 & 20 March Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
00:23 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Falcon
00:23 TR Bot; Jonah Falcon - Wikipedia
00:23 DaemonFC; 13.5"? I've seen bigger.
00:23 DaemonFC; I don't know how this qualifies you for a wikipedia article though.
00:25 schestowitz-TR; wikipedia is spam
00:25 schestowitz-TR; people write about themselves
00:25 schestowitz-TR; or pay people to do it
00:26 schestowitz-TR; anyway, back on topic
00:27 schestowitz-TR; so tmobile sends you some package
00:27 schestowitz-TR; boo hoo
00:27 schestowitz-TR; regarding sizes
00:27 schestowitz-TR; like height records
00:27 schestowitz-TR; it's usually people with genetic problems who break record
00:27 schestowitz-TR; and it does not look pretty
00:27 schestowitz-TR; because, you know, genetic physical problems
00:27 schestowitz-TR; swollen joints and stuff
00:28 schestowitz-TR; like "world's largest head"
00:28 schestowitz-TR; you probably don't want to even see that
00:30 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-21-22-20.jpg
00:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-21-22-20.jpg
00:30 TR News; Attacking the #freesw community using unwanted cybernocracy https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/leveraging-the-open-source-program-office-new-research-unpacks-the-evolution-of-the-ospo-and-a-whole-lot-more/ oh, look, #microsoft Perlow http://techrights.org/2022/02/16/only-the-privileged/
00:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/leveraging-the-open-source-program-office-new-research-unpacks-the-evolution-of-the-ospo-and-a-whole-lot-more/
00:30 TR Bot; Leveraging the Open Source Program Office: New Research Unpacks the Evolution of the OSPO (and a Whole Lot More) - Linux Foundation
00:30 TR Bot; When Only Rich and Powerful Corporations Can Use Slurs and Hurt Marginalised/Vulnerable People | Techrights
00:31 TR News; Purism and Linux 5.17 https://puri.sm/posts/purism-and-linux-5-17/ #purism #linux #kernel
00:31 TR Bot; Purism and Linux 5.17 Purism
00:31 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161864 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:31 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:32 TR News; Developing GUIs for IoT is easier with Ubuntu Frame on-screen keyboard | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/developing-guis-for-iot-is-easier-with-ubuntu-frame-on-screen-keyboard #ubuntu #gnu #linux #osk
00:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/developing-guis-for-iot-is-easier-with-ubuntu-frame-on-screen-keyboard
00:32 TR Bot; GUIs for IoT is easier with Ubuntu Frame on-screen keyboard | Ubuntu
00:34 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> it's usually people with genetic problems who break record
00:34 DaemonFC; There's an optimal size and then beyond that it's just a liability.
00:35 DaemonFC; Like, I knew this guy who couldn't wear shorts because of it.
00:35 DaemonFC; People think that people with lots of money are happy. They're usually not.
00:35 DaemonFC; I think it's the same thing here.
00:36 schestowitz-TR; that's why they colect money
00:36 schestowitz-TR; to compensate for something missing
00:37 schestowitz; MinceR: https://www.maketecheasier.com/fixes-external-display-not-working-macos/
00:37 TR Bot; External Display Not Working? Try These 15 Fixes for macOS - Make Tech Easier
00:37 schestowitz; upgrade
00:37 schestowitz; throw it away
00:37 schestowitz; get a new one
00:37 schestowitz; get 6 sets of airpods
00:38 MinceR; lol
00:38 MinceR; better solution:
00:38 MinceR; https://assets.amuniversal.com/6b08abb09fbb012f2fe600163e41dd5b ( https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-06-24 )
00:38 schestowitz-TR; airpods can become expensive buttplugs with the coveted #apple logo
00:38 TR Bot; Comic Strip on 1995-06-24 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
00:38 DaemonFC; As 2,000 Americans a day keep dying of COVID, CDC says you can "take a break" from masks.
00:39 schestowitz-TR; yes, I was in town today
00:39 schestowitz-TR; very few people wear masks
00:39 schestowitz-TR; maybe 10% of us
00:39 schestowitz-TR; even inside shops, except the staff
00:39 schestowitz-TR; I cover my whole head exept ete
00:39 schestowitz-TR; mister incognito
00:40 schestowitz-TR; *except eyes
00:41 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: #Ubuntu Frame/OSK, Librem, and #Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161865 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:41 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Ubuntu Frame/OSK, Librem, and Arduino | Tux Machines
00:42 TR News; #PressureWasher History: High-Speed #Hydraulics Forged from Prohibition https://tedium.co/2022/02/25/pressure-washer-history/ #tedium
00:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/02/25/pressure-washer-history/
00:42 TR Bot; Pressure Washer History: High-Speed Hydraulics Forged from Prohibition
00:43 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman has repeatedly appeared on Russia Today.
00:43 TR News; #apple cultists: Macs... they JUST WORK. NO THEY DON'T! (And stop blaming the user) https://www.maketecheasier.com/fixes-external-display-not-working-macos/
00:43 XRevan86; DaemonFC: We know.
00:43 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: yes, it won't help now
00:44 schestowitz-TR; it'll give his critics fodder
00:44 schestowitz-TR; he even appeared there 2020
00:44 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Please don't use that as an argument for RT legitimacy.
00:45 TR News; "One month into Season of KDE, and almost every high priority and medium priority packages have been submitted. Most have been accepted to Flathub, while some are awaiting review. I'll list down the submissions accepted after my last post." https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/sok-2022/completing-a-milestone/
00:45 TR Bot; Status update: Completing a milestone - post #3
00:46 MinceR; It Just Needs More Work.
00:47 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> DaemonFC: Please don't use that as an argument for RT legitimacy.
00:47 DaemonFC; Oh I wasn't.
00:47 TR News; Shrinking from WHAT? 10MB to 5? Make it 5KB like in #geminiProtocol https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/google_chrome_lite_mode_deprecated/
00:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/google_chrome_lite_mode_deprecated/
00:47 TR Bot; Google kills download-shrinking Lite Mode browser tech The Register
00:47 DaemonFC; Stallman is a political crank.
00:47 DaemonFC; And he promotes authoritarianism.
00:48 schestowitz-TR; vaccine mandates never flew here
00:48 schestowitz-TR; bill's guardian shilled for iot
00:48 schestowitz-TR; now there are many people with side effects
00:48 DaemonFC; He has a series of unorthodox ideas which would cause the global economy to go ahead and pretty much collapse and take most people back to dirt floor poverty if they were actually implemented.
00:48 schestowitz-TR; and "passports" that aren't used
00:48 XRevan86; In my perspective, RMS probably considered it as just yet another imperfect platform to spread the message of free software.
00:48 DaemonFC; It would be worse than what's going on now.
00:48 schestowitz-TR; like pre-2010 UK "id cards"
00:49 schestowitz-TR; a friend's partner got one
00:49 schestowitz-TR; totally useless
00:49 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> totally useless
00:49 DaemonFC; Chicago has "city ID" cards for illegal immigrants.
00:49 DaemonFC; They are pretty much useless.
00:49 XRevan86; I hope he at least now realises what RT really is about.
00:50 DaemonFC; You can't actually use them to rent an apartment or anything involving the state or federal government.
00:50 schestowitz-TR; many freesw activists and 'free thinkers' went on there
00:50 schestowitz-TR; even some british whistleblowers
00:50 schestowitz-TR; like assange friends, annie machon etc.
00:50 schestowitz-TR; and then they linked to it
00:50 schestowitz-TR; showing off that putin's media had them on
00:50 schestowitz-TR; that may seem innocent at the time
00:50 schestowitz-TR; but those things do not age well politically
00:50 DaemonFC; Vaccine mandates have pretty much petered out in the United States.
00:50 schestowitz-TR; like shaking hitler's hand in the early/mid 30s
00:50 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court threw out most of Biden's.
00:51 schestowitz-TR; Gulag threw that out this month
00:51 schestowitz-TR; tried to mandate staff
00:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Now the FDA has to warn people not to drink the COVID test kit solution.
00:51 DaemonFC; :)
00:51 schestowitz-TR; and now changed its mind... now as in I saw a report last week
00:51 schestowitz-TR; we got our first covid test kit today
00:51 schestowitz-TR; ever
00:52 schestowitz-TR; woin't use it
00:52 schestowitz-TR; it's for a case when one of us feels unwell
00:52 schestowitz-TR; the gov. gave it to us free
00:52 schestowitz-TR; so picked one up hours ago
00:52 schestowitz-TR; free handout
00:52 DaemonFC; I got a bunch of them for free.
00:52 schestowitz-TR; some companies make money from this..
00:52 schestowitz-TR; but it's prepaid
00:53 schestowitz-TR; I pay for it even if I don't agree to that
00:53 DaemonFC; They made us go two years without test kits and with those scammers running test centers.
00:53 DaemonFC; To steal social security numbers.
00:53 DaemonFC; Then they mail these out.
00:53 schestowitz-TR; what does guardian say?
00:53 schestowitz-TR; mandate those too?
00:54 schestowitz-TR; eventually they force people to come back to "the office"
00:54 schestowitz-TR; so the planet suffers still
00:54 DaemonFC; Stallman is basically in agreement with about 0.25% of the country, politically.
00:54 XRevan86; schestowitz: Right, history is not very forgiving.
00:54 schestowitz-TR; and they don't let people stay safe at home
00:54 DaemonFC; And that party is a Russian sockpuppet designed to get Republicans elected.
00:54 schestowitz-TR; managers or "bosses" long to bully someone
00:54 schestowitz-TR; face to face
00:54 DaemonFC; And he doesn't get it.
00:54 MinceR; (video) https://nitter.net/56blackcat/status/1497206708439072768 https://twitter.com/56blackcat/status/1497206708439072768
00:54 TR Bot; Ann is still European Stand with Ukraine (@56blackcat): "Graphic A Russian tank swerves & runs over civilian car. Peacekeepers my ass. This is sheer cruelty." | nitter
00:54 TR Bot; Graphic A Russian tank swerves & runs over civilian car. Peacekeepers my ass. This is sheer cruelty. https://t.co/JMMgTobm9X
00:54 TR Bot; Za sve one koji ne ele da vide ta Putin radi u Ukrajini. Ruski narod ne stoji iza ovoga. Ovo je Putinov lini r https://t.co/FQXrBtGUUV
00:55 schestowitz-TR; would rather not click
00:55 schestowitz-TR; if they squash a person
00:55 schestowitz-TR; I saw a movie like this about Russian tanks
00:55 XRevan86; schestowitz: No, he lived.
00:55 schestowitz-TR; and I remember the scene 20+ years later
00:56 schestowitz-TR; now we need to see klitschko going rambo on those troops. One punch on each
00:58 XRevan86; schestowitz: Putin should send deputy Valuyev to fight him one on one.
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00:59 schestowitz-TR; I'd watch
00:59 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: they can do it like in those Van Damme movies
00:59 schestowitz-TR; with glass
01:00 schestowitz-TR; to see Valuyev "glassed"
01:00 schestowitz-TR; in another way
01:00 MinceR; who's valuyev?
01:00 XRevan86; MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev
01:00 TR Bot; Nikolai Valuev - Wikipedia
01:01 schestowitz-TR; Yes
01:01 schestowitz-TR; very ugly man
01:01 schestowitz-TR; and has some genetic disorder
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01:01 schestowitz-TR; I saw him fight
01:01 schestowitz-TR; he too was a mayor iirc
01:01 XRevan86; schestowitz: Also friend of my extended family.
01:01 MinceR; glassing is too good for members of united russia and russian soldiers
01:01 schestowitz-TR; now .ph ants to consider a boxer as a president
01:01 MinceR; they should die more slowly than that
01:01 schestowitz-TR; people like to vote people who punch... into office
01:01 XRevan86; Which is a detail that boggles even myself.
01:02 schestowitz-TR; Valuev was never that good
01:02 schestowitz-TR; even much shorter people knocked him out
01:04 activelow; that's confusing me, many of those boxing champions were contracted by germany
01:04 activelow; including Valuev, Klitschko, Lebedev, and many others
01:05 activelow; and their fights regularly broadcasted, for decades
01:05 activelow; and now the fairy tale is told Ukraine and Russia were at war
01:06 activelow; schestowitz-TR: and you'r disrespectful, towards Valuev, who was a recognised Champion, internationally
01:06 MinceR; lol
01:06 MinceR; no member of united russia deserve respect
01:06 MinceR; s/ve/ves/
01:06 MinceR; the only thing they deserve is punishment
01:07 XRevan86; Except for no, no exceptions.
01:07 TR News; #AlmaLinux OS 8.5 for #PowerPC is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161843#comment-32910
01:07 TR Bot; CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS Is Now Available for 64-Bit PowerPC Architecture | Tux Machines
01:09 TR News; "Then on Friday the Conti cyber-criminal gang, which is based in Russia, warned it too was stepping into the fray." #microsoft #windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/in_brief_security/ see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
01:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/in_brief_security/
01:09 TR Bot; Nvidia probes cyberattack on internal systems The Register
01:09 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
01:12 schestowitz-TR; activelow: He was never very good
01:12 schestowitz-TR; you can compare
01:12 schestowitz-TR; he was no legend
01:13 schestowitz-TR; Tyson Fury never lost
01:13 schestowitz-TR; yyet
01:13 schestowitz-TR; yet
01:14 activelow; i don't follow any of those fights anymore
01:15 activelow; never watched the Klitschko fights, because those were broadcasted on private TV which i hate
01:15 activelow; on public TV instead, fights were broadcasted, without commercials
01:17 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAe-dr_ry3c
01:17 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vAe-dr_ry3c
01:17 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Fury vs Wilder 3 HIGHLIGHTS: October 9, 2021 - Invidious
01:17 schestowitz; their latest
01:17 schestowitz; 31st win
01:21 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury#Professional_boxing_record
01:21 TR Bot; Tyson Fury - Wikipedia
01:21 schestowitz-TR; he's from here
01:21 schestowitz-TR; born prematurely
01:21 schestowitz-TR; one pound
01:22 schestowitz-TR; made up for it along the way
01:37 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161866 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:37 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:37 TR News; #Privacy and #Security Failures Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161867 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:37 TR Bot; Privacy and Security Failures | Tux Machines
01:38 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161868 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:38 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
01:38 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161869 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:38 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
01:45 schestowitz-TR; I've just gone to gulagtube
01:45 schestowitz-TR; searched kiev, bridge
01:45 schestowitz-TR; pure noise
01:45 schestowitz-TR; and includes propagnda organs of govs.
01:45 schestowitz-TR; including putin's
01:46 schestowitz-TR; what good is the internet?
01:46 schestowitz-TR; social control media other than gulagtube is even less reliable
01:46 schestowitz-TR; they call it "fog of war"
01:47 TR News; #wikileaks has been offline for a very long time. This is unusual. https://wikileaks.org
01:47 TR Bot; WikiLeaks
01:50 schestowitz; XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#/media/File:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%BB_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%8E%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%8E%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%91%D0%BD_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87_%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%
01:50 TR Bot; Ukraine - Wikipedia
01:50 schestowitz; D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE.jpg
01:50 MinceR; the problem is with humans, not technology
01:50 MinceR; and it's solving itself already
01:50 schestowitz; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/________.jpg/180px-________.jpg
01:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/________.jpg/180px-________.jpg
01:50 MinceR; no humans => no human propaganda
01:50 schestowitz; valuyev similarities
01:51 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.45
01:53 TR News; Links 26/2/2022: #AlmaLinux OS 8.5 for PowerPC and IBMs CEO Arvind Krishna in Trouble Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/25/arvind-krishna-in-trouble/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/25/arvind-krishna-in-trouble/
01:53 TR Bot; Links 26/2/2022: AlmaLinux OS 8.5 for PowerPC and IBMs CEO Arvind Krishna in Trouble | Techrights
01:54 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: that leaves subhumans like Vlad to spread propaganda
01:55 MinceR; vladolf will die too
01:58 AdmFubar; wikileaks certificate expired
01:59 schestowitz-TR; I cannot even reach it
01:59 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: before us
01:59 schestowitz-TR; he's hiding his age
01:59 MinceR; hopefully
02:00 MinceR; well, at least hopefully he'll start dying before we do
02:01 schestowitz-TR; he's 70 this year
02:01 schestowitz-TR; LateLifeCrisis
02:01 schestowitz-TR; he wants to diue with gloiry
02:01 schestowitz-TR; because he'll die soon anyway
02:01 MinceR; sociopath edition
02:02 schestowitz; AdmFubar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
02:02 TR Bot; WikiLeaks - Wikipedia
02:02 schestowitz; all the aliases fail also
02:02 schestowitz; https://wikileaks.is
02:02 TR Bot; not resolve host: wikileaks.is; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://wikileaks.is )
02:02 schestowitz; https://wikileaks.com
02:02 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WikiLeaks
02:02 schestowitz; https://wikileaks.org
02:02 TR Bot; WikiLeaks
02:02 schestowitz; hmmm..
02:02 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/va-public-school-to-use-precrime-thought-police-program-to-deter-off-campus-social-media-hate-speech-by-students-415-23-3/
02:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/va-public-school-to-use-precrime-thought-police-program-to-deter-off-campus-social-media-hate-speech-by-students-415-23-3/
02:02 TR Bot; Va. Public School to Use Precrime Thought-Police Program to Deter Off-Campus, Social Media Hate Speech by Students 415 23 3
02:03 schestowitz; maybe it works OK from the US
02:03 AdmFubar; they all use the same certificate
02:03 schestowitz-TR; .com works now
02:03 schestowitz-TR; .org does not
02:04 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: technically he's 69
02:04 schestowitz-TR; so he has pussy for brains
02:04 MinceR; lol
02:05 schestowitz-TR; and mother russia has mothing
02:05 schestowitz-TR; "no match found"
02:05 schestowitz-TR; oh wait
02:05 schestowitz-TR; "matchstick found
02:06 TR News; xkcd: Greek Letters https://xkcd.com/2586/ #xkcd
02:06 TR Bot; Greek Letters
02:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2586/
02:06 MinceR; turns out randall munroe signed the anti-rms letter too
02:06 MinceR; one can hardly trust anyone in this shithole world
02:07 schestowitz-TR; does munroe do code?
02:07 MinceR; dunno
02:07 MinceR; he was stupid enough to blame Adobe Trash sucking on the kernel
02:07 MinceR; even though mplayer, xine and vlc all did well on the same kernel
02:07 MinceR; https://xkcd.com/619/
02:07 TR Bot; Supported Features
02:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/619/
02:08 TR News; Gammath SPOT version 2.1 (beta) released on 25 February 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT
02:09 TR Bot; Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
02:09 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: I wanted to do some videos, but lacked the time
02:09 schestowitz-TR; one thing I saw thu and fri is,
02:09 schestowitz-TR; they try to associate Linux with attacks on ukraine
02:09 MinceR; classy
02:09 schestowitz-TR; though Windows is what's failing
02:09 schestowitz-TR; and they redefine back doors
02:09 schestowitz-TR; to them, malware installed on Linux
02:10 schestowitz-TR; and then opening a pathway
02:10 schestowitz-TR; is "back door"
02:10 schestowitz-TR; not something that's there by design like Windows
02:10 MinceR; but what the hell, we need either a BSD or a new Linux fork anyway
02:10 schestowitz-TR; I saw some other malicious slants
02:10 MinceR; let them shit in the bed they made for themselves
02:10 schestowitz-TR; but went to town today and did repair around the house, recorded nothing today :/
02:10 schestowitz-TR; yes, Linux has its limits
02:11 schestowitz-TR; you cannot even run modern Linux on a machine with floppy drive
02:11 schestowitz-TR; because, you know..
02:11 schestowitz-TR; "old"
02:11 schestowitz-TR; Azure OK
02:11 schestowitz-TR; you NEED that
02:11 schestowitz-TR; but not support for laptop from 20 yearsx ago
02:11 schestowitz-TR; which still had floppies supported
02:11 schestowitz-TR; that would be "security" risk
02:11 schestowitz-TR; unlike AZUREa
02:11 MinceR; Linux has reached its limit
02:12 schestowitz-TR; anyway, Linux is one of those things that groiw too big
02:12 schestowitz-TR; like pho-nuke
02:12 activelow; floppy disk is helpful to vizualize, 15 years ago a linux kernel and packet filter fit onto one
02:12 schestowitz-TR; after it added all the kitchen's sinks
02:12 schestowitz-TR; like php-bb
02:12 schestowitz-TR; with all the zero-day flaws
02:12 schestowitz-TR; and could no longer maintain the monster
02:12 MinceR; well, what i know is that 15 years ago i could configure a Linux kernel and build it in a few minutes
02:12 MinceR; now it would take days to configure it and hours to build it
02:13 MinceR; and it's chock full of crap
02:13 schestowitz-TR; yes, 20 file systems?
02:13 schestowitz-TR; like Mirrosoft ones?
02:13 MinceR; it has cgroups, which doesn't work, hype-v drivers, which should be used as a demonstration of how not to write kernel code
02:13 schestowitz-TR; and some which barely work
02:13 schestowitz-TR; and can vanish files..
02:13 activelow; problem is, even when most of the optional parts are removed, then kernel image size and LoC increased excessively
02:13 MinceR; hooks for NSA backdoors like SELinux and systemd
02:13 MinceR; a whole SMB server, which doesn't belong in the kernel
02:14 schestowitz-TR; wireguard
02:14 schestowitz-TR; vpn?
02:14 schestowitz-TR; TO DA KERNEL
02:14 schestowitz-TR; KVM?
02:14 schestowitz-TR; KERNEL!
02:14 schestowitz-TR; The K in KVM
02:14 activelow; the ARM kernel here, which I minified (without breaking to boot ARM), it is still 12MiB in size; 15 years ago it was almost 10MiB les
02:14 activelow; s
02:15 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/linux-bloat-meme/
02:15 TR Bot; [Meme] Linux is Becoming a Code Burial Ground, Sometimes at the Expense of Size and Complexity (Bloat) | Techrights
02:15 schestowitz-TR; 27,000 lines of code patch
02:15 activelow; removed IPv6, LVM, PCI support, almost everything possible, still it is 12MiB statically linked, and this is very bad news
02:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Samsung was criticized by Google for making "stupid" patches to the Linux kernel they use in their phones.
02:15 schestowitz-TR; eat DAT, Linux
02:15 schestowitz-TR; or Linus
02:15 schestowitz-TR; how long to even study the darn thing?
02:16 schestowitz-TR; to audit it
02:16 schestowitz-TR; they can put ANYTHING in there
02:16 schestowitz-TR; back doors too
02:16 schestowitz-TR; you would not even notice
02:16 schestowitz-TR; UMN put tons of defects before it was noticed
02:16 activelow; the system call interface chaos is nasty too, there's simply too many of them, syscalls, stopped counting at 300
02:17 schestowitz; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29751
02:17 TR Bot; Heres Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines
02:20 activelow; and, they are lying: https://lwn.net/Articles/885941/
02:20 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/885941/ )
02:20 TR News; Now good that the official homepage of #geminiProtocol -- both http/s and gemini:// -- has been down for about a day already, maybe more. gemini.circumlunar.space/
02:21 activelow; linux kernel requires a C++ compiler (gcc-4.9) since v4.19 already, yet LWN says kernel v5.18 would upgrade the C standards compliance from C89
02:21 activelow; linux kernel couldn't be compiled with a C89 compiler anymore for a very long time
02:22 schestowitz-TR; oh,
02:22 schestowitz-TR; zdnet said the same, I think
02:22 schestowitz-TR; SJVN
02:22 schestowitz-TR; the coin-operated due
02:22 schestowitz-TR; dude
02:22 schestowitz; https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-prepares-to-move-the-linux-kernel-to-modern-c/
02:22 TR Bot; Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C | ZDNet
02:23 activelow; "modern C"
02:23 activelow; the latest harm done was with Kernel v5.8; when C11 _generic macro nonsense was introduced
02:23 schestowitz-TR; "modern" is like "smart"
02:23 schestowitz-TR; fancy words
02:24 schestowitz-TR; which suggest something newer is better
02:24 schestowitz-TR; even when the objectives are user-hostile and often rejected by the users themselves
02:24 schestowitz-TR; so they're forced to swallow
02:24 activelow; the last kernel version i am willing to patch is v5.10, i'll not follow along anymore with their decisions
02:24 schestowitz-TR; with appeasing words
02:24 schestowitz-TR; "smart phone"
02:25 schestowitz-TR; sounds better than "microphone on, killswitched, remotely-operated listening devices that can make calls, too"
02:25 schestowitz; zdnet hired some stenographer called Jonathan Greig
02:25 schestowitz; he's reprinting corporate lies
02:26 schestowitz; claims as "facts"
02:26 schestowitz; this is not journalism
02:26 schestowitz; it's "professional writer"
02:26 schestowitz; with assignments and sponsors
02:26 schestowitz; anyway, coin-operated sjvn now has some competition
02:30 TR News; #intel burns the planet to sell crap https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/intel_bitcoin_chip/ it also attacks #linux and #freesw based on leaks http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
02:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/intel_bitcoin_chip/
02:30 TR Bot; Intel blasts Bitcoin miners, unveils own mining hardware The Register
02:30 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
02:30 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/roku-porn-ban-firetv-chromecast
02:30 TR Bot; adult channels ban: Chromecast, Fire TV could benefit - Protocol
02:31 AdmFubar; :)) I like the intel hypocrisy !
02:31 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/nvidia-cyberattack
02:31 TR Bot; Nvidia's internal systems hit by cyberattack - Protocol
02:33 TR News; Weaponisation of tech #monopolies and #centralisation https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/ukraine-russia-apple
02:33 TR Bot; Russia from the App Store: Ukraine official - Protocol
02:33 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook
02:33 TR Bot; invades Ukraine, restricts Facebook - Protocol
02:34 TR News; Remember: US tech #monopolies works FOR #russia and FOR #putin (it's about money) https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html
02:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html
02:34 TR Bot; Russia Uses Microsoft to Suppress Dissent - The New York Times
02:35 TR News; The president of #apple isn't Tim Crook. It's Vladolf the Crook. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/world/europe/russia-navalny-app-election.html #gulag #russia
02:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/world/europe/russia-navalny-app-election.html
02:35 TR Bot; Apple and Google Remove Navalny Voting App in Russia - The New York Times
02:35 TR News; #ibm took orders from #hitler http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/
02:35 TR Bot; Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights
02:36 MinceR; strange time for crApple and gulag to side with putler
02:36 MinceR; but i'm sure it won't harm their sales
02:36 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/climate/russia-chernobyl-ukraine-invasion
02:36 TR Bot; takes Chernobyl, raising fears of environmental disaster - Protocol
02:36 TR News; #putin has a #disinformation machine to compete with for his own disinformation https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook
02:37 TR News; #socialcontrolmedia isn't for activism but to distract from actual activism
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250222.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 25, 2022
02:37 schestowitz; [02:36] <MinceR> but i'm sure it won't harm their sales
02:37 schestowitz; that's what matters, SALES
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-250222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-250222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-250222.txt
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02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 25, 2022
02:40 TR News; "There were generic SGML rendering engines back in the middle 1990s." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250222.html#tFeb%2025%2013:43:36
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 25, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:42 TR News; Don't forget, lads and gals, that the tech giants have long been dictators' best buddies http://techrights.org/2022/01/19/watson-pr/
02:42 TR Bot; Another Video IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | Techrights
02:43 TR News; #ibm profits from #fascism (and it never ended). They double dip by selling to both sides in conflicts. http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/the-real-ibm-history/
02:43 TR Bot; What IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | Techrights
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03:17 ahoy; MinceR: could be midlife crisis, could be spite, could be religious, could be some other sort of craziness <- it wasnt that, it actually started with an argument about msg
03:17 MinceR; lol
03:18 MinceR; i thought we were talking about putler
03:18 MinceR; as in, why putler attacked ukraine this time
03:18 ahoy; precisely so
03:18 ahoy; if it wasnt an argument in irc, what could possibly drive him to such a thing?
03:18 MinceR; lol
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03:19 ahoy; by the way, what did happen with your failed openbsd installation? condolances, by the way. it may sound like trolling, but the curiosity is is sincere
03:19 ahoy; im not into blaming the user for major issues like that. it was probably a bug
03:19 MinceR; well, i'm still using it, and i'm not quite sure what the cause of the issue was
03:19 MinceR; i'll just have to try some other things on the same hardware so i can compare them
03:19 ahoy; so you were able to recover the data from the partition? or you just reinstalled
03:20 MinceR; i actually answered you but you were gone by then, so i'll have to dig up my messages because i forgot
03:20 ahoy; im sorry about that, i was hoping youd answer in chat
03:20 ahoy; then i would have seen it
03:20 MinceR; np
03:20 MinceR; i've found the lines, i'll just reformat the thing so it's less spammy here
03:20 ahoy; you can also pm
03:21 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 383749 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39458 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 weeks 4 days ago
03:21 ahoy; whatevers easier is fine
03:22 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 62 GB TotalOut: 44 GB
03:22 ahoy; /ignore techrights-ipfs-bot
03:22 MinceR; i use 6.9, with x.org/xenocara, and i have no idea what happened other than i was loading a really heavy website in qutebrowser, then x stopped responding except for the mouse pointer still moving
03:22 MinceR; then x crashed, i got that console message and the system stopped responding entirely. i'm on 64bit. the system worked fine after force poweroff and booting again
03:22 MinceR; but still, it's sad that this is the state of the IT industry, after seeing all the hype about various systems being "rock solid"
03:22 MinceR; later i had a total freeze of the system, while trying to use a really heavy website in chromium.
03:23 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:23 MinceR; this laptop is also supposed to be more powerful than the old one and yet i'm seeing performance issues with web, so i'm curious about how that will turn out with other BSDs and GNU/Linux
03:24 MinceR; it could still be mostly power management issues
03:24 ahoy; i mean we both know openbsd is slower because security security security security
03:24 ahoy; or even more accurately mitigation mitigation mitigation mitigation
03:24 MinceR; yeah, but that much?
03:24 ahoy; as a fan, it wouldnt surprise me. the web is crap too
03:25 ahoy; crap + a mountain of mitigations = slow + slower
03:25 MinceR; when i download a large image in a web browser and have it show, it's noticeably very slow and loads the system very heavily
03:25 MinceR; just a large jpeg
03:25 ahoy; its like when you mix caffeine and alcohol. whoops, maybe that whole category of metaphors is a bad idea
03:25 MinceR; i suppose it would be easier if i ran other heavy applications on this thing besides the web
03:25 MinceR; but everything else i use on this machine is pretty light
03:25 ahoy; but they do combine unpredictably, says webmd which is the fountain of all medican knowledge
03:26 MinceR; playing full hd movies worked fine
03:26 ahoy; yeah same here-- i mean what could i install to compete for resources with the web browser? total-information-awareness?
03:27 ahoy; (which is probably on github now)
03:27 ahoy; hopefully they at least use a private repo
03:27 ahoy; i think if you want a real explanation though, activelow has some ideas that might provide clues
03:28 ahoy; like gutting things that dont require hw acceleration-- then making it so proprietary software is needed to make the acceleration work
03:28 ahoy; thats a great way to attack free software
03:28 ahoy; and the desktop isnt a priority for openbsd, which is exactly why im attracted to it
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03:30 MinceR; well, i suppose if i make my FPGA dev board-based laptop, i won't have a lot of hw acceleration anyway
03:30 ahoy; i use the gui of course (and yes, it was installed by default) but whats important is that the kernel and userspace arent unmaintainable
03:30 MinceR; the "modern" web probably won't work on it at all
03:30 ahoy; sounds like a feature
03:30 ahoy; when i use the web i often avoid both css and images, not to mention scripts
03:30 MinceR; well, OpenBSD certainly has an attraction on the desktop for me: running X as nonroot without any of the proprietarydesktop crap that's normally used for this purpose
03:31 ahoy; /me checks if x is actually running as non-root
03:31 MinceR; runs as _x11 here
03:32 IPFS; QmX3rMb63HxLvj9FqPyymwV4TDWUAY1bdbtXfufZPb287E
03:32 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:32 ahoy; yeah here too
03:32 ahoy; fun
03:33 ahoy; so heres the latest on the fsf:
03:33 ahoy; theyve cancelled the entire organisation and replaced it with reruns of "yes, minister"
03:33 ahoy; theyve done to the board what osi just did less than a year ago
03:33 MinceR; lol
03:33 ahoy; and no one has noticed (or at least mentioned it)
03:34 ahoy; if you look at the new "code of ethics" for the board-- which is the only authority rms has now
03:34 ahoy; the board has no power, its only got SPIRIT! LETS GO! S-P-I-R-I-T! SPIRIT!
03:34 ahoy; so they really have found a nice niche for him. im against this of course, but i wont sugarcoat it
03:35 MinceR; well, they got all the support from the community, afaict
03:35 MinceR; if they insist on being irrelevant and useless, it's on them
03:35 ahoy; and the community answers to lieplanet
03:35 ahoy; agreed
03:35 ahoy; but this is bad for gnu at least
03:35 ahoy; and unfair to rms, not that we can stop them
03:35 MinceR; they decided to use an irc network in part run by people who wanted to cancel them for a large part of their official public communications anyway
03:35 MinceR; they can't be helped
03:36 ahoy; mainly i think its useful to document what theyre doing
03:36 ahoy; yeah well the irc network they chose is really an example of a very broad theme of more of the same
03:36 ahoy; lieplanet has a loyalty oath. gnu.fools has a loyalty oath. actual gnu still doesnt, but guix runs that too
03:37 ahoy; im eager to see what lea.h (no need to summon) has planned. im not saying it will bowl me over, though it wouldnt have to try hard to be better than what lieplanet is up to
03:38 ahoy; im guessing theyre going to announce the new leader this month (if there is ever going to be one)
03:38 MinceR; i faintly remember talks of a federation that would be more difficult to attack than the FSF was
03:38 ahoy; theres really not much for knauth to do-- or anyone else in his position now
03:39 ahoy; i faintly remember talks of a federation that would be more difficult to attack than the FSF was <- oh i remember that very clearly
03:39 ahoy; maybe leah will help build that
03:39 ahoy; the nice thing about a federation is that anybody can get it started
03:39 ahoy; of course when i talk about federation im thinking p2p authority, not centralised like starfleet. so maybe its not even the right word
03:39 ahoy; im not bothered
03:40 ahoy; voluntarily linked mini-organisations that collaborate as it suits them
03:40 ahoy; meritocracy (maybe not the best word these days, only because no one likes it- im not offended by it) moved from individual level up to org level
03:41 MinceR; :>
03:41 MinceR; i may be misremembering the terminology
03:41 ahoy; i mean the actions matter more. so do the motivations
03:41 ahoy; rms alwasy put too much stock in terminology. only the ultra left really believes that verbs and adjectives change everything
03:42 ahoy; i do think free software was a better trademark than fake free software
03:42 ahoy; it was a line of demarcation-- but the difference is what mattered, not the gematria or phrasing exactly
03:42 MinceR; well, words don't do everything, but it's often a good idea to pick them carefully
03:42 ahoy; one stood for freedom, the other didnt. if one was called boogers and the other was called... well, let mg sort out the colourful phrases
03:44 ahoy; whehter we actually build a federation or not, the future of free software is exodus
03:44 ahoy; its already been scattered. today we are slaves of github, but tomorrow we may be truly... actually tomorrow looks pretty bad for now
03:45 ahoy; im not entirely pessimistic. wasnt it edison that said genius is 1% inspiration and 99% fuck this already? theres still that 1%
03:46 AdmFubar; the 99% was stealing other ideas
03:46 ahoy; and credit!
03:46 ahoy; but yes
03:46 ahoy; if you dont steal the credit, the ideas are only half-stolen
03:46 ahoy; you might as well steal a tv and go back for the remote
03:47 MinceR; the 99% was discrediting competitors using better technology, apparently
03:47 MinceR; edison was an asshole in a suit
03:47 ahoy; and the first eulas
03:48 ahoy; im pretty sure bill gates has a picture of edison on his ceiling
03:48 ahoy; one of the ceilings anyway
03:48 AdmFubar; no bill wants to steal all of edisons credit..
03:48 ahoy; i thought that was elon
03:48 MinceR; i don't want to know what bill gAIDS has on his ceiling
03:49 ahoy; hey guys, i invented a service where you can "email" physical...
03:49 ahoy; "thats called the post"
03:49 ahoy; "oh yeah, damn"
03:52 ahoy; if the dead guy from the eff were around, or the one they just booted out, he would say that people will react to the sfs like an internet node and route around it
03:52 ahoy; fsf ^
03:52 ahoy; which they probably will eventually
03:53 ahoy; the question is how much longer are they going to flog a dead horse before they realise its actually dead
03:54 ahoy; ive been making dead parrot jokes about it for 3 years now
03:54 MinceR; another question is how long is the community going to just let the suits take over free software projects using the SJW troll armies
03:55 ahoy; the sjws, while not a non problem-- you have to understand, i never subscribe to the "we dont have to do anything because it will take care of itself" argument
03:55 ahoy; its like saying a wildfire or housefire will burn itself out. it will, of course
03:55 ahoy; thats a really stupid way to fight (most) fires
03:56 ahoy; i mean some things are actually better left alone. but often thats the worst way to resolve a crisis before...
03:56 ahoy; i mean look at it this way: its crystalmaths solution to covid. what else do i have to say?
03:57 ahoy; note hate for crystalmath, though i dont hate america quite that much
03:57 ahoy; no hate ^
03:57 ahoy; im not in love either, theres a happy and cynical medium
03:58 ahoy; the sjws will of course destroy themselves
03:58 ahoy; they eat their own. look at linus. trumped by his own... jim is worse
03:58 ahoy; linus did it to free software, zemlin did it to linus
03:59 ahoy; if he were around, edison would do it to zemlin
03:59 MinceR; was linus an sjw before they got to him? didn't seem like that to me
03:59 ahoy; mostly? no, not at all
03:59 ahoy; but um, that thing where he said "free software is about hate" was a pretty sjw moment
03:59 ahoy; i dont think that was really HIS idea
04:00 ahoy; my point wasnt really that hes an sjw
04:00 ahoy; hes open source-- and open source, like sjws, eat their own
04:00 ahoy; thats the main comparison
04:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.96 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.45
04:02 ahoy; you know where the former sjws are headed, yes?
04:02 ahoy; its not about race or marginalisation anymore (actually im sure it will be for a long time)
04:02 ahoy; the next theme is NICENESS
04:02 ahoy; everybody is going to be NICE.
04:02 MinceR; interesting, i missed that story
04:02 ahoy; yeah they havent published it yet
04:02 ahoy; call it a prediction
04:03 MinceR; well, it seems to me that several former SJWs have become marginalized
04:03 MinceR; bully deblanc lost her job
04:03 ahoy; open source eats their own
04:03 MinceR; matthew gafam seems to be out of favor
04:03 ahoy; molly exists at the confluence of sjw and open source
04:03 ahoy; so the sjw theme is dying off (a bit at least)
04:04 ahoy; and you need a theme to take its place, so im calling it now: NICENESS
04:04 ahoy; think tienammen square
04:04 ahoy; the song "shiny happy people" came from a chinese propagdanda poster
04:04 ahoy; which at least was put together by people who could tpye.
04:04 MinceR; so torvalds caved to the SJW CoC in 2018, but he already caved on the utterly horrid hype-V code and talked shit about people wary of MICROS~1 back in 2009 ( https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/07/linus-torvalds-microsoft-hatred-is-a-disease/ )
04:04 TR Bot; Linus Torvalds: Microsoft hatred is a disease | Ars Technica
04:04 MinceR; good to know
04:05 ahoy; shiny happy people is going to be the theme of lieplanet 2023, because its too late to retheme the 2022 oen
04:05 MinceR; https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Happiness_Is_Mandatory
04:05 TR Bot; Happiness Is Mandatory - All The Tropes
04:05 ahoy; im blaming rubber domes for all of these typos. ive never used a mechanical, but im blaming rubber domes anyway
04:05 MinceR; :>
04:06 *techrights_guest|42 is now known as eskimo
04:06 ahoy; this is actually the nicest (still cheap) rubber dome kb ive ever owned
04:07 ahoy; but i can tell the "c" key is already more shy than the others
04:07 ahoy; not surprising when the "c" isnt even visible on it anymore
04:09 MinceR; PBT keycaps are more resistant to wear than ABS keycaps
04:09 ahoy; i should scan and 3d print replacements
04:09 ahoy; after getting a 3d scanner and printer of course
04:10 ahoy; but what a cool hack that would be for a $20 keyboard
04:10 ahoy; only cost a few thousand to dix
04:10 ahoy; ok now its just messing with me
04:10 ahoy; while im at it can i move the d farther from the f
04:11 CrystalMath; ahoy: i don't really hate america, i just hate what they do
04:11 ahoy; i never discovered i had dyslexia until i got a keyboard
04:11 ahoy; i hate what american does too of course
04:12 ahoy; i mean its got a mixed bag of a history-- genocide is never a great start
04:12 ahoy; slavery
04:12 ahoy; microsoft...
04:13 ahoy; epstein was american?
04:13 CrystalMath; i hate the hypocrisy the most
04:13 CrystalMath; and this "nobody thinks otherwise" mentality
04:13 ahoy; america should be banned from wars until they promise to only do it for good reasons
04:14 CrystalMath; like... yes, tehre's always someone who thinks otherwise
04:14 ahoy; but thats basically what the un is (allegedly) for, and you see how thats turned out in practice
04:14 CrystalMath; there are people who think they should die, they commit suicide, so we're not even united on the idea of life
04:14 CrystalMath; we're never united and we will never be
04:14 CrystalMath; unless something monstrous like mind control happens
04:14 MinceR; speaking of hypocrisy...
04:14 ahoy; my problem with suicide is its never the right people-- or the right time
04:14 MinceR; you keep talking about how horrible the things usians and ukrainians do, but apparently serbia has the right to commit any atrocity they feel like
04:14 ahoy; like hitler was the right person-- but he was awful about procrastinating. thats just the most obvious example
04:14 kingoffrance; mind control always happens. religion: let me program you magician: ill do it myself
04:15 MinceR; and when someone tries to stop them, those people are satan?
04:15 ahoy; epstein is a more recent one-- he waited too long, plus he didnt do it at all
04:15 kingoffrance; as annoying as it is to squabble about words, that what words are -- thought control. conway's law :D
04:15 kingoffrance; dont go down the path of lee ....that's the dark side...
04:16 ahoy; /me controls his own thoughts using conways law
04:16 MinceR; nationalism is a terrible drug
04:16 kingoffrance; :)
04:16 CrystalMath; MinceR: what?
04:16 ahoy; isnt conways law also thought control?
04:16 kingoffrance; yes
04:16 CrystalMath; MinceR: i did say kosovo has a right to be independent too
04:16 ahoy; we dont need no thought control
04:16 CrystalMath; MinceR: i don't like what serbia did back then in that case
04:17 MinceR; CrystalMath: so why do you have a hateboner on the USA again?
04:18 ahoy; worse of 4 evils
04:18 ahoy; even though im sceptical
04:18 CrystalMath; MinceR: afghanistan, iraq, vietnam, libya especially, syria
04:18 ahoy; there are many things i dislike about the usa
04:18 ahoy; being worse than china isnt one of them, for reasons that should be obvious
04:18 MinceR; i guess my memory is really poor because that's not what i seemed to recall
04:19 ahoy; funnily enough i agree with all of crystalmaths reasons
04:19 ahoy; just not the conclusion (or the sum)
04:20 ahoy; i mean i feel pretty much the same about afghanistan, iraq, vietnam, libya, syria
04:20 ahoy; how fair (or unfair) is it to blame every country that relies on oil for this? not necessarily equally of course, thats certainly not fair
04:20 ahoy; when the british for example, condemn the usa, my first thought is "so youll stop following them to every bullshit war, right?"
04:21 ahoy; no, because... who are we kidding
04:21 ahoy; but the condemnation is still based on an honest assessment. still, we already agreed that hypocrisy is a terrible offense, so...
04:22 ahoy; but hypocrisy is worse when usa does it (and it might actually be, because some are bigger hypocrites than others) but still
04:22 ahoy; its hard to rate all these things. we might need hey hi
04:22 CrystalMath; MinceR: and also, if it was okay to attack serbia, you must also say that it's okay to attack ukraine
04:23 ahoy; 3% cat, 40% hypocrite, 200% oil profits
04:23 CrystalMath; MinceR: otherwise you're a hypocrite, it's the same situation
04:23 CrystalMath; i don't like what ukraine is doing
04:23 MinceR; CrystalMath: what are ukraine's crimes against humanity?
04:23 MinceR; not what putler alleged, because that's pure bullshit
04:23 CrystalMath; blocking the water supply to crimea is pretty inhumane
04:23 MinceR; and?
04:23 CrystalMath; bombing the donbass region every day
04:23 CrystalMath; striking children's hospitals
04:24 MinceR; bombing russian invaders in donbass is a crime against humanity?
04:24 CrystalMath; it's just people
04:24 MinceR; what are they supposed to do, lie down and ask to be taken as slaves?
04:24 MinceR; anything else?
04:24 CrystalMath; no, accept their freedom and independence from ukraine
04:24 MinceR; oh, right
04:24 MinceR; being owned by putler is "freedom and independence" now
04:24 ahoy; crystalmath: youre against the occupation of palestine, right?
04:25 MinceR; like how stalinists tell me i'm supposed to be grateful for the russians because they took over from the germans
04:25 CrystalMath; otherwise, one could also say "bombing albanian invaders in kosovo is a crime against humanity?"
04:25 CrystalMath; ahoy: absolutely
04:25 MinceR; "yay, i have a new owner now!"
04:25 MinceR; fuck that.
04:25 MinceR; anything else?
04:25 ahoy; be careful when disagreeing with stalinists, theyve got icepicks
04:25 MinceR; lol
04:25 CrystalMath; MinceR: how do you not see the hypocrisy?
04:25 MinceR; i don't care about the ice picks, i'm worried about the WMDs
04:26 MinceR; so anyway, what i've seen about serbia were ethnic cleansing, genocide and a policy of rape
04:26 MinceR; it seems that ukraines alleged crimes are minuscule compared to what the serbs did
04:26 CrystalMath; serbia was not even accused of those things
04:26 MinceR; uh huh
04:26 CrystalMath; you're probably mistaking us for the serbian republic
04:26 CrystalMath; which is a bosnian breakaway state
04:26 MinceR; great
04:27 CrystalMath; it still exists
04:27 CrystalMath; as an autonomous part of bosnia
04:28 MinceR; somehow massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, unspecified "crimes against humanity" and genocide still come up
04:28 MinceR; during the "yugoslav wars"
04:28 ahoy; minxer: with luck they cut as many corners with the weapons as they did in the stolovayas
04:29 ahoy; mincer:
04:29 MinceR; conveniently, milosevic died before a verdict could be reached about him
04:30 ahoy; the people who actually needed the weapons got lower grade plutonium and the officers took most of it home for themselves
04:30 MinceR; ahoy: i suspect even dirty bombs could do horrible things
04:30 MinceR; hell, putler's apparently preparing to blow up the power plant in chernobyl
04:31 MinceR; he went right for it and there was greatly increased radiation
04:31 ahoy; i guess hes given up on his smug superiority that he lords over the west and decided "if you cant beat them, beat them"
04:32 kingoffrance; ahoy: i should say i favor of von neumann machines, code is data, data is code, reflective. story of mel :)
04:32 ahoy; maybe this will push the people under him to be more enthusiastic about fixing the problem at the root
04:32 ahoy; please dont get me wrong-- im not an optimist
04:33 MinceR; i don't think this will be fixed
04:33 ahoy; i mean there were nazi officials that tried to get rid of hitler
04:33 MinceR; the west is just backing away, leaving millions of people to slavery
04:33 ahoy; unfortunately their knowledge of ballistics was far inferior to a couple of guys on cable television
04:34 MinceR; and even if vladolf was assassinated, i have no doubt that there are plenty of monsters just like him who are ready to take his place
04:34 ahoy; fair point, but even if they were 10% less horrible, that might be just enough to end these tactics, if not the war
04:34 ahoy; i mean, quite literally, not everyone is putin
04:35 ahoy; a lot of my logic is based on standup comedy. the only difference is im not kidding
04:35 MinceR; he has soldiers who will just drive over a car with their tank for fun
04:35 MinceR; with someone in the car
04:35 ahoy; i mean im not ready to joke about ukranian lives, im really hoping for a good outcome against all odds.
04:35 MinceR; his soldiers have no reservations about taking over a nuclear power plant
04:35 ahoy; but that doesnt make me an optimist
04:35 MinceR; it was a prime target
04:35 MinceR; these are barbarians
04:36 MinceR; they do not understand being asked nicely to leave
04:36 MinceR; they do not understand sanctions
04:36 ahoy; or they simply dont care
04:36 ahoy; or theyre all hostages of an insane leader
04:36 ahoy; or all of the above
04:36 MinceR; and yet that's what the UN and the NATO and the EU are trying to use to stop him
04:36 MinceR; the only thing they understand is nuclear bombardment
04:37 ahoy; the un has done a marvelous job of looking busy and useful decade after decade after decade
04:37 ahoy; to be fair, we are still here. to be more accurate, just barely
04:38 CrystalMath; MinceR: Miloevi was charged with secretly aiding the serbian republic
04:38 CrystalMath; he wasn't guilty, really
04:38 ahoy; the un is part of the reason that drones are so important
04:38 CrystalMath; you may have seen other names, like Radovan Karadi
04:38 CrystalMath; that was the *president* of the serbian republic
04:38 ahoy; drones can be conventional, and like you say, the un isnt smart enough to figure what to do with that
04:39 ahoy; "well um... we could put sanctions on batteries!"
04:39 MinceR; i haven't seen the UN as useful in a long time
04:39 MinceR; especially after seeing what the WIPO has done against us all
04:39 ahoy; theyre very useful in a theoretical way
04:39 ahoy; yeah wipo is my favourite part of the un
04:39 MinceR; or the WHO, which is just spreading the propaganda of whoever pays them the most
04:39 MinceR; which currently happens to be red china
04:40 CrystalMath; <@MinceR> they do not understand being asked nicely to leave
04:40 CrystalMath; <@MinceR> these are barbarians
04:40 CrystalMath; yeah when i'm angry i say the same things about ukrainians!
04:40 CrystalMath; but i'm sure it's not really true
04:40 ahoy; at least roger waters is against the occupation of palestine
04:40 ahoy; but thats floyd, not the who
04:41 CrystalMath; MinceR: was ukraine not asked nicely to leave donbass alone?
04:41 CrystalMath; they had 8 years
04:41 MinceR; CrystalMath: was russia not asked nicely to leave donbass and crimea alone?
04:42 MinceR; humans are pretty horrible in general, but i think putler and his lackeys are a special kind of savage evil
04:42 CrystalMath; MinceR: and let the people get slaughtered?
04:42 CrystalMath; MinceR: okay, why didn't the US then leave serbia and kosovo alone
04:42 CrystalMath; the separatists would get slaughtered, that's what you want
04:42 CrystalMath; BUT YOU CAN'T WANT IT IN ONLY ONE CASE
04:42 CrystalMath; that's what i can't stand
04:42 CrystalMath; you can want it in both cases, or none
04:42 CrystalMath; for me, it's none
04:42 ahoy; i think putler and his lackeys are a special kind of savage <- mincer: the kind that has that much power. thats generally what creates such people
04:43 MinceR; CrystalMath: why didn't serbia leave kosovo alone?
04:43 CrystalMath; MinceR: why didn't ukraine leave donbass alone?
04:43 ahoy; stalin didnt set out to be one of the most outstanding arseholes in the history of civilisation
04:43 ahoy; he sort of fell into it
04:43 ahoy; im not excusing him
04:43 ahoy; power gets to people
04:43 CrystalMath; MinceR: be consistent please
04:43 MinceR; CrystalMath: there's a difference between separatists wanting to be independent and russians pretending that people want the area to belong to russia
04:43 MinceR; ahoy: i suspect stalin was special too
04:43 ahoy; all he had to do was shoot himself and it would have saved europe untold amounts of trouble
04:44 ahoy; he could have also retired
04:44 ahoy; and im sure he would have carved out a nice plan for himself
04:44 MinceR; none of this stupid shit would have happened if people didn't accept the principle of people getting to run other people's lives
04:44 ahoy; but nearly unlimited power is obviously addictive and people dont want to let go of it
04:45 MinceR; people getting to own other people
04:45 ahoy; none of this stupid shit would have happened if people didn't accept the principle of people getting to run other people's lives <- its very difficult to have a government without that though
04:45 ahoy; almost by definition
04:45 MinceR; that's the thing
04:45 MinceR; we shouldn't have governments
04:45 MinceR; we should have megacorporations and churches either
04:46 MinceR; we should aspire to be adults who run their own lives
04:46 ahoy; while i actually agree with you completely on that, our ideal method of getting away from that would probably differ substantially
04:46 ahoy; mine is extremely counterintuitive
04:46 MinceR; i don't know if there is a method for humans
04:46 ahoy; if there is, its tricky
04:46 MinceR; there are way too many stupid humans and way too many humans with the authoritarian personality type
04:46 ahoy; both true
04:48 ahoy; those are also both problems that are notoriously difficult to change
04:48 CrystalMath; MinceR: donbass wants to be independent
04:48 ahoy; is there any chance that donbass was legitimately (not sure what that means in this context) a part of the ukraine?
04:48 MinceR; says who?
04:48 CrystalMath; MinceR: the people there
04:49 CrystalMath; these are basically "anti-maidan" people
04:49 MinceR; and how is it that we haven't heard of it before russia decided to send their little green men into ukraine?
04:49 CrystalMath; we heard of it in 2014 when they declared independence
04:49 MinceR; "anti-maidan", in other words, russian puppets?
04:49 CrystalMath; russia did not recognize them
04:49 CrystalMath; no
04:49 CrystalMath; there are people who are not russian puppets and who are anti-EU
04:49 CrystalMath; look at brexit
04:49 CrystalMath; are they russian puppets?
04:49 MinceR; curious how they didn't think to declare independence without russian soldiers being around
04:49 CrystalMath; brexit and anti-maidan is the same
04:49 MinceR; brexit? they're blithering idiots
04:50 CrystalMath; that's your opinion
04:50 MinceR; and some of them are starting to realize how hard they fucked up
04:50 ahoy; my problem with the donbas thing-- and its not something im following closely
04:50 CrystalMath; i think brexit is right
04:50 CrystalMath; i'm very much pro-brexit
04:50 MinceR; the "conservatives" told lots of lies about what brexit would accomplish
04:50 ahoy; is it reminds me of certain people in palestine who also want to be "independent"
04:50 MinceR; and they were proven to be lies by reality
04:50 MinceR; but go ahead and ignore reality
04:50 ahoy; and by "independent" i mean "controlled by israel"
04:50 CrystalMath; at least no doofus started a eurosquare
04:50 MinceR; live in a dream world
04:50 ahoy; and most of palestine doesnt want to be annexed
04:51 ahoy; but some are "independent"
04:51 CrystalMath; MinceR: imagine there was a eurosquare and anti-brexiters forcefully couped the government
04:51 MinceR; just don't be too surprised when reality finally shatters your illusion
04:51 CrystalMath; and then a part of england filled with brexiters wanted to secede
04:51 CrystalMath; maidan is ukrainian for square
04:51 ahoy; if donbass is anything like palestine, and russia is anything like israel...
04:51 MinceR; CrystalMath: maybe stop imagining things, stop reading/watching putler's propaganda and try to find out what really is out there
04:51 CrystalMath; ahoy: donbass wants to be in russia rather than the EU
04:51 CrystalMath; MinceR: what i know is that *I* don't want to be in the EU
04:51 CrystalMath; if i was british, i would be pro-brexit
04:51 MinceR; then move?
04:51 CrystalMath; i'm not in the EU
04:52 ahoy; crystalmath: but according to whom, is the question
04:52 CrystalMath; but like, here 51% doesn't want to be in the EU
04:52 CrystalMath; why should WE move?
04:52 ahoy; i mean, theyre obviously not unanimous on it
04:52 ahoy; so there has to be some other assessment
04:52 CrystalMath; ahoy: the majority voted for an anti-EU government... that was couped!
04:52 ahoy; which seems to be being played out right now with death
04:52 MinceR; then don't become EU members, who cares
04:52 MinceR; maybe there will be a serbia-shaped hole in the EU and you'll get to pay levies
04:53 ahoy; ahoy: the majority voted for an anti-EU government... that was couped! hmm
04:53 CrystalMath; MinceR: there's a good chance the puppets the west places here will force us in
04:53 MinceR; in CrystalMath's world, every election is perfectly free and fair
04:53 CrystalMath; then what?
04:53 CrystalMath; ahoy: yes, euromaidan is the whole problem with ukraine
04:53 MinceR; CrystalMath: well, if elections can't fail, then stop worrying about it
04:54 ahoy; mincer: whats wrong with the vote for the anti-eu government?
04:54 CrystalMath; MinceR: EU support in the polls hovers around 50%
04:54 MinceR; if the majority doesn't want serbia to join the EU, those alleged puppets won't get to control serbia
04:54 CrystalMath; MinceR: sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down
04:54 MinceR; ahoy: nothing, i don't care
04:54 CrystalMath; our leaders are pretending to be pro-russian
04:54 CrystalMath; just like yours are pretending to not be
04:54 MinceR; ahoy: if they want difficulty with borders and they want a crippled economy, they should go ahead with it
04:54 CrystalMath; MinceR: also, why should the will of the 49% be squashed?
04:55 CrystalMath; if we just split, we would all be happy
04:55 MinceR; CrystalMath: hungary hasn't had free or fair elections since 2010
04:55 ahoy; ah, that answers my question
04:55 MinceR; CrystalMath: by your rhetoric, if we finally executed a revolution and got rid of putler's puppet, that would be a "coup"
04:55 ahoy; oh wait, hungary. no it doesnt
04:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: yes it would be
04:55 MinceR; ah, so you do support orban
04:55 MinceR; well, then we don't have anything to discuss anymore
04:55 CrystalMath; MinceR: well it's the definition isn't it?
04:56 CrystalMath; maybe not all coups are bad
04:56 MinceR; go sit with the other fidSS fans
04:56 CrystalMath; what is that even
04:56 ahoy; no, some coups are definitely good
04:56 ahoy; i think so far, the majority of them were definitely crap
04:56 MinceR; fidesz = fidSS = fideath = hungarian communist party = hungarian nazi party = the hungarian representatives of united russia and the communist party of china
04:57 MinceR; anyway, it's well past my bedtime, i shouldn't argue with authoritarians any more
04:57 ahoy; also having "death" in the name of your party is terrible branding
04:57 CrystalMath; ahoy: it's probably called fidesz
04:57 MinceR; they didn't put it there, i did
04:57 ahoy; oh okay
04:57 CrystalMath; that's pronounced as an s
04:58 MinceR; they call themselves "alliance of young democrats" and every word of that is a lie
04:58 CrystalMath; a single s without z in hungarian is sh
04:58 ahoy; fideath also looks incredibly irish
04:58 CrystalMath; MinceR: except for "of"
04:58 CrystalMath; :P
04:58 ahoy; thanks for clarifying crystalmath
04:58 CrystalMath; so it sounds kinda like "fideath" if you pronounce it (but using the english th)
04:58 MinceR; for a while they tried to rebrand as "hungarian party of citizens" or whatever, and that would have been a lie too
05:00 CrystalMath; i'm reading about them, they say they're anti-communist
05:00 ahoy; isnt everybody
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05:01 CrystalMath; "Marxist ideology led to the death of tens of millions and ruined the lives of hundreds of millions. The celebration of its founder is a mockery of their memory."
05:01 CrystalMath; from a letter from fidesz
05:03 ahoy; i used to think horseshoe theory was incredibly useful, but its far too oversimplified
05:03 ahoy; stalin literally worked together with hitler anyway
05:03 CrystalMath; "We must state that we do not want to be diverse and do not want to be mixed: we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others. We do not want this. We do not want that at all. We do not want to be a diverse country." - Viktor Orbn
05:04 CrystalMath; well... this... is a little too anti-communist
05:04 CrystalMath; heh
05:04 ahoy; we do not want to be diverse <- that could get very messy
05:04 ahoy; all my best friends are diverse
05:06 ahoy; we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others <- when you assume all your traditions are "native" its only one step away from modern copyright laws
05:06 CrystalMath; "The government has often propagated Fidesz's political ideas in tax-funded advertisements, putting up posters portraying a grinning George Soros, while calling on the citizens to oppose his purported support of illegal immigration (many of the posters portraying Soros, who is Jewish, were defaced with antisemitic graffiti),"
05:07 CrystalMath; "Additionally, various party members have been accused of antisemitism."
05:08 CrystalMath; they don't like jews, they don't like race mixing, hmm
05:08 ahoy; it does sound a bit familiar
05:08 ahoy; hitler may have worked with stalin
05:08 ahoy; he also killed A LOT of communists
05:08 ahoy; as did stalin, of course
05:09 CrystalMath; interesting that you mentioned it, because, there was actually an anarchist commune ruling the area now known as donbass
05:09 CrystalMath; Lenin first pretended to be on their side, then crushed them and absorbed them into the soviet union
05:10 ahoy; communists and anarcho communists tend to not agree on important issues
05:10 CrystalMath; it was the historic Novorossiya
05:11 ahoy; ultimately communists want communism then anarchy, and anarcho communists want anarchy, then communism
05:12 CrystalMath; the separatists in donbass in 2014 wanted to form a novorossiya federation
05:12 MinceR; 26 060042 < CrystalMath> i'm reading about them, they say they're anti-communist
05:12 CrystalMath; for some reason, they never even joined it themselves
05:12 MinceR; oh, yes
05:12 ahoy; when did lenin crush the commune there?
05:12 CrystalMath; ahoy: 1918
05:13 CrystalMath; ahoy: the communists declared it a part of the ukrainian soviet republic
05:13 MinceR; as we know, one of the primary things you can expect from "anti-communists" is to appropriate public funds to build a "university" (called Fudan) on prime real estate which requires its staff and students to obey the law of red china and to be loyal to the CPC
05:13 MinceR; very anti-communist.
05:13 ahoy; thats the problem with wanting to do something and having a really terrible plan
05:14 MinceR; although i've already heard from some idiot that the CPC is not communist
05:14 MinceR; maybe the communists are anti-communists too!
05:14 ahoy; it always depends what you mean by communist
05:14 CrystalMath; MinceR: communists generally don't accept it
05:14 CrystalMath; they call it fascist / state capitalist
05:14 ahoy; communists are invariably anti-communist
05:14 MinceR; orban also likes to pose as the guy who sent the russians out of the country
05:14 ahoy; just like many christians are against all other forms of christianity. well, ok not exactly like that
05:14 ahoy; but theres a certain degree of similarity
05:14 MinceR; 20 years later he's sucking off putler and nobody bats an eye
05:14 CrystalMath; would be funny if the communist party of china said it's anti-communist
05:15 ahoy; i mean if you tell china youre a communist
05:15 MinceR; i don't know if there's a form of life on earth that's stupider than the average fideath follower.
05:15 ahoy; and youre against what china is doing
05:15 CrystalMath; ahoy: that's still off to the gulag
05:15 ahoy; theyre DEFINITELY against that (and probably most) kinds of communisty
05:15 ahoy; its not like you just say "
05:15 CrystalMath; if you say, i'm an anti-communist but i like what you're doing
05:15 CrystalMath; they don't seem to mind
05:16 CrystalMath; they build a university in your country
05:16 MinceR; well, red china is now buddies with orban, putler and the talibans
05:16 MinceR; nothing matters to these sociopaths except owning slaves
05:16 CrystalMath; i also recognize the islamic emirate of afghanistan
05:16 MinceR; and fucking up people's lives
05:16 CrystalMath; and accept the taliban as its leaders...
05:16 ahoy; communisty <- im ditching the rubber dome excuse and going to say ive been hacked by professor unwin instead
05:16 CrystalMath; that doesn't mean i "support" the taliban
05:16 CrystalMath; but i believe they have a right to do their own thing
05:17 MinceR; it does sound a hell of a lot like you do
05:17 CrystalMath; i'm VERY happy that the US left
05:17 ahoy; you dont seem like a big taliban fan
05:17 MinceR; oh yeah
05:17 MinceR; they have a right to do their own thing
05:17 CrystalMath; absolutely
05:17 MinceR; their subjects? not so much
05:17 MinceR; fuck them.
05:17 CrystalMath; i want every corner of this earth to have different laws
05:17 ahoy; yeah us involvement in the middle east rareley improves anything, unless youre an industry of some kind
05:17 CrystalMath; some part must then have sharia law
05:17 MinceR; who cares about most of the afghans?
05:17 MinceR; i want every corner of this universe to have no laws in that sense
05:17 CrystalMath; since they fought for decades to have sharia law
05:17 MinceR; maybe you should move there and be subject to sharia
05:17 CrystalMath; it makes sense for that one part that must have it to be, well, that part
05:18 MinceR; find out how delightful it is.
05:18 CrystalMath; i'm not a muslim
05:18 MinceR; who cares
05:18 MinceR; ?
05:18 CrystalMath; but muslims who support it can do that
05:18 ahoy; everyone has a great reason for going to war. they just usually dont actually go for those reasons
05:18 CrystalMath; and i'm for that, that they can, you know?
05:18 MinceR; did anyone ask the people living in afghanistan if they were muslims?
05:18 MinceR; did anyone ask the people enslaved by religious fundamentalist states if they agree with the religion of their oppressors
05:18 MinceR; ??
05:18 MinceR; that's the whole point
05:18 CrystalMath; they can move out
05:18 ahoy; dont worry, lieplanet will bring unity
05:18 MinceR; lol
05:18 CrystalMath; it's not forbidden
05:19 MinceR; yeah, they can get killed trying to escape
05:19 ahoy; everyone will sign the code of conduct
05:19 MinceR; like people trying to escape east berlin
05:19 CrystalMath; ahoy: not me!
05:19 CrystalMath; ahoy: never unity! always division
05:19 ahoy; why do you hate unity?
05:19 MinceR; CrystalMath: it really sounds like you haven't thought of this much
05:19 CrystalMath; MinceR: it's not forbidden to leave
05:19 CrystalMath; MinceR: the taliban allow it
05:19 ahoy; unity is awesome. everyone should agree, its so much nicer. i mean agree with me personally.
05:20 MinceR; which unity?
05:20 ahoy; mine!
05:20 MinceR; the shitty desktop environment?
05:20 ahoy; definitely not that one
05:20 MinceR; or the even shittier game engine that comes with MICROS~1's botNET framework?
05:20 ahoy; not the mono gaming platform either
05:20 ahoy; nope nope
05:20 MinceR; humanity will be unified in the grave
05:20 ahoy; and probably not unity with fideath either
05:20 ahoy; you have to understand how unity works
05:21 MinceR; since almost nobody can be convinced to let others be, apparently
05:21 ahoy; it never works if everyone just agrees on just ANYTHING
05:21 ahoy; they have to agree on the RIGHT things
05:21 MinceR; CrystalMath wants a patchwork of diverse flavors of extreme oppression
05:21 MinceR; the axis of evil apparently agrees
05:21 ahoy; yes but on the wrong thing
05:21 ahoy; thats why theyre the axis of evil
05:21 MinceR; well, guess what
05:22 ahoy; at least they can agree on labeling things properly, thats always a good place to start
05:22 MinceR; science and technology don't develop well under extreme oppression
05:22 CrystalMath; MinceR: for sure i want there to still be an america zone
05:22 CrystalMath; just one that leaves others alone
05:22 ahoy; which is exactly my point
05:22 MinceR; and the next asteroid that comes around to kill us all isn't going to ask if you're good christians or whatever
05:22 MinceR; if you don't have the right tech, you're dead
05:22 ahoy; everyone should be forced to agree on science and technology without forcing them in a way that is extremely oppressive
05:22 CrystalMath; and lets them "suffer", because what *they* think is suffering is maybe not suffering
05:22 MinceR; and so's everything else that lives on this planet
05:22 MinceR; end of fucking story
05:22 ahoy; if we can all just agree to stop oppressing each other
05:22 ahoy; and maybe just oppress the people who dont agree with that,,,
05:22 ahoy; nothing can go wrong
05:23 CrystalMath; i think canadians are suffering
05:23 MinceR; either humanity gets rid of the memetic pathogens that are crippling its minds, or it will just go fucking extinct
05:23 CrystalMath; those vaccine mandates are freaking brutal
05:23 MinceR; and nothing of value will be lost.
05:23 MinceR; that's nature's deal.
05:23 ahoy; canadians would never be happy if we took away their suffering
05:23 MinceR; and if you don't like it, that's too bad.
05:23 eskimo; i like to oppress everyone
05:23 CrystalMath; ahoy: it seems so
05:23 CrystalMath; ahoy: so, i'm not gonna invade canada and force them to remove the mandates
05:23 MinceR; this planet will be uninhabitable 1 billion years from now, regardless of anything you do
05:23 MinceR; no amount of prayer will help you.
05:23 CrystalMath; MinceR: that's great
05:24 MinceR; well, if you want your species to die out, then yes
05:24 ahoy; we should move from prayer to spaceships for exactly that reason
05:24 CrystalMath; life doesn't make sense if it never ends
05:24 MinceR; and it certainly looks like the human species wants to go extinct
05:24 MinceR; that's great, because it's happening.
05:24 ahoy; though if i have a spaceship, im still going to pray when the engine makes funny noises
05:24 MinceR; lol
05:24 CrystalMath; MinceR: but your culture seems to be thinking about whether people have a right to die
05:24 CrystalMath; MinceR: they're thinking about forcing people to take immortality potions
05:24 CrystalMath; your culture = the west
05:25 CrystalMath; "for our own good"
05:25 MinceR; who's "my culture"?
05:25 CrystalMath; the west
05:25 MinceR; what "immortality potions"?
05:25 MinceR; please tell us about your dream before using it as context.
05:26 CrystalMath; i read some article by some "liberal" about how, if in the future there is something you can take to become immortal
05:26 CrystalMath; will it be morally allowed to choose NOT to take it?
05:26 ahoy; actually rms talked about that years ago
05:26 MinceR; that's not a liberal
05:26 CrystalMath; reminds me a lot of the vaccine mandates
05:26 ahoy; so liberals are far behind as usual
05:26 MinceR; and whether taking it is a good idea is a good question
05:26 CrystalMath; ahoy: this was years ago
05:26 CrystalMath; but it wasn't RMS
05:26 ahoy; ah okay
05:26 MinceR; dying (the unknown) or spending an eternity with the most horrible monsters the universe has come up with (humans)?
05:26 ahoy; its in his bio
05:26 MinceR; difficult choice.
05:26 ahoy; which against better judgment i bought from the fsf
05:27 ahoy; i dont regret reading it, only giving them money
05:27 CrystalMath; this is why vaccine mandates are so scary
05:27 CrystalMath; if i want to die it's my right
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05:28 MinceR; no, that is not why vaccine mandates are scary
05:28 MinceR; vaccine mandates are scary because it means the state is making a decision for you
05:28 MinceR; and the state fucking sucks at making decisions
05:28 CrystalMath; at a basic level, yes
05:28 MinceR; at every level
05:28 MinceR; it's one of the worst things humanity has come up with
05:28 CrystalMath; but i'm also scared of the fact that they can literally try to force people to do something that is good for them
05:28 MinceR; religion being the other
05:29 CrystalMath; what if i don't want to feel good?
05:29 MinceR; you're in luck
05:29 MinceR; you're on earth
05:29 MinceR; among humans
05:29 MinceR; the best company if you want to feel bad.
05:29 CrystalMath; sometimes i'm so scared of this, that i think about commiting suicide now because in the future they'll be able to reconstruct me somehow
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05:30 ahoy; "Say somebody discovers an immortality serum. What do you do? What are the political results? If you give it to everybody, the world gets overcrowded and everybody dies. If you limit it, if you say everyone who's alive now can have it but their children can't, then you end up with an underclass of people without it. Richard was just better able than most to see the unforeseen circumstances of any decision."
05:30 MinceR; does suicide affect that possibility?
05:30 ahoy; ^ https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch04.html
05:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: oreilly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch04.html
05:30 TR Bot; Free as in Freedom: Chapter 4
05:30 CrystalMath; other people are so awful, and they're awful precisely BECAUSE they wish good for everyone, not realizing that "good" is 100% relative and 0% absolute
05:30 CrystalMath; for me, my death is a good thing, sure i don't want it tomorrow
05:30 CrystalMath; but i want it some day
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05:30 CrystalMath; if you can't understand it, I DON'T CARE, because it's my life
05:30 CrystalMath; we are humans, we are not meant to understand each other
05:30 CrystalMath; we cannot understand each other
05:30 CrystalMath; every human is crazy to every other human
05:31 CrystalMath; so "crazy" doesn't exist
05:31 MinceR; there's nobody around to mean us to do anything
05:31 CrystalMath; true
05:31 CrystalMath; and that is another reason why absolute good / absolute morality is completely bogus
05:32 MinceR; not sure about that
05:32 ahoy; being sure would be absolute
05:32 ahoy; and its bogus
05:32 MinceR; isn't your assertion of letting people oppress other people in the way they see fit a principle of absolute morality?
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05:33 CrystalMath; MinceR: no, it's just resignation to the idea that i cannot know what is good or bad
05:33 CrystalMath; MinceR: so, people being free cannot be good or bad
05:33 ahoy; absolute non-absolute morality is one of the most important things to have unity about
05:33 CrystalMath; people working for a dictator cannot be good or bad
05:33 CrystalMath; the whole concepts went out the window
05:33 MinceR; you seem awfully sure of your ideals for someone who believes they cannot know what is good or bad.
05:34 CrystalMath; there is only one thing that can be done
05:34 MinceR; extinction?
05:34 CrystalMath; and that is, to base an ideology around the idea that everything is relative
05:34 MinceR; that idea is absolute
05:34 CrystalMath; yes but everything else is relative :P
05:34 CrystalMath; and, the fact that nothing is absolute is also absolute
05:35 CrystalMath; and i can now point back to "humans acnnot understand each other"
05:35 CrystalMath; :P
05:35 CrystalMath; *cannot
05:35 MinceR; only a Sith deals in absolutes.
05:35 MinceR; (also an absolute. oops!)
05:35 ahoy; conclusion: yoda is a sith
05:35 ahoy; "do or do not, there is no try"
05:35 MinceR; lol
05:36 ahoy; sorry if i ruined the next prequel before disney could
05:36 CrystalMath; but so, if good is unknowable, then i want the taliban to exist, since maybe they're good, who knows
05:36 CrystalMath; throw everything at the wall
05:36 CrystalMath; see what sticks
05:37 CrystalMath; you say their people are suffering, but i know plenty of people who like suffering, so you can't really know this is bad
05:37 ahoy; whatever god wants, he keeps
05:38 ahoy; i know plenty of people who like suffering, so you can't really know this is bad <- unless youre in donbass. then its bad
05:39 CrystalMath; yeah, the ideology i put forth must oppose all intervention then
05:39 CrystalMath; and what russia is doing, is an intervention
05:39 ahoy; for what its worth crystalmath, trying to save EVERYONE from suffering would ultimately cause other suffering they want even less
05:39 ahoy; so at least in that regard, youre right
05:39 ahoy; like mincer wants world peace
05:39 ahoy; but not in a way the world is likely to vote for
05:39 CrystalMath; right, well yeah, what i wrote is kind of strange in that the right conclusions come out, to me, but the intermediate steps are weird
05:40 CrystalMath; i actually did get to it by thinking about evolution
05:40 CrystalMath; and how evolution works
05:40 ahoy; im in favour of evolution, as long as i dont have to change
05:40 CrystalMath; also i read plenty of books on free market economies
05:40 ahoy; those are fun
05:40 CrystalMath; until i read those, back in like, 2017
05:41 CrystalMath; i was also convinced that there should be one system that fits all
05:41 CrystalMath; and i was some kind of communist
05:41 ahoy; not a marxist
05:41 CrystalMath; i even invented the social credit score
05:41 CrystalMath; before the chinese
05:41 ahoy; theyre really strict on the idea that different things apply to different situations
05:41 CrystalMath; it was like the 00s still
05:41 CrystalMath; i talked about it in high school, how much better that would be
05:42 ahoy; cory doctorow called it whuffie
05:42 CrystalMath; even tried to write a mathematical function that computes it
05:42 ahoy; he wanted to be clear later on, that he didnt necessarily think it was a good system
05:42 CrystalMath; of course
05:42 CrystalMath; it's terrible
05:42 CrystalMath; it's fascist, it's horrifying
05:43 ahoy; the great thing about social credit score is you just rate whatever you want to "gently force" people to do
05:43 CrystalMath; that's not great though
05:43 ahoy; the great thing about free market economies is they ultimately do the same thing, plus lots of handwaving
05:43 CrystalMath; but alas, someone needs to try it
05:43 CrystalMath; true free market economies don't set a plan
05:43 CrystalMath; it's resigning the planning to nature
05:43 ahoy; i mean if one person walks from mexico and another takes the train, they both go to mexico
05:44 ahoy; its like a pound of bricks vs a pound of feathers
05:44 ahoy; but the feathers are softer
05:44 CrystalMath; no not really
05:44 AdmFubar; wait... where are they going?
05:44 CrystalMath; a true free market is a different result
05:44 ahoy; youd have to define true freedom first
05:45 CrystalMath; ahoy: the true fre e market is kinda like what i said above, resigning to nature, doing everything and seeing what sticks
05:45 CrystalMath; "just let it be"
05:45 ahoy; what if feeudalism is what sticks
05:45 CrystalMath; it didn't stick last time
05:45 ahoy; very true
05:45 CrystalMath; so it's unlikely
05:46 ahoy; do you think government-interventionist capitalism will stick?
05:46 CrystalMath; but, the use of force greatly slows down the search for the best thing
05:46 CrystalMath; america tried to eliminate the taliban
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05:46 CrystalMath; but they're a very important search node
05:46 AdmFubar; https://www.windowscentral.com/meta-has-dissolved-its-hybrid-metaverse-operating-system-development-team-says-report
05:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/meta-has-dissolved-its-hybrid-metaverse-operating-system-development-team-says-report
05:46 TR Bot; Meta has dissolved its hybrid metaverse OS development team, says report | Windows Central
05:47 ahoy; so its just verse now? or just meta
05:47 AdmFubar; amd just jumped the shark https://www.windowscentral.com/amd-approves-8-billion-stock-repurchase-program
05:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/amd-approves-8-billion-stock-repurchase-program
05:47 TR Bot; AMD approves $8 billion stock repurchase program | Windows Central
05:48 ahoy; if meta was trying to be meta, theyve succeded
05:48 AdmFubar; they have meta the enemy and it is them...
05:48 ahoy; nice
05:49 kingoffrance; "the true fre e market is kinda like what i said above, resigning to nature" meta, credit, pieces of paper..........no, markets trend towards imaginary land, 180 of nature
05:49 kingoffrance; all about abstracting
05:49 kingoffrance; deserves? [nature] has got nothing to do with it </clint eastwood movie>
05:50 kingoffrance; also...
05:50 CrystalMath; i said the *true* free market :P
05:50 kingoffrance; markets were people, not corporations
05:50 kingoffrance; markets are long gone
05:50 kingoffrance; ancient history
05:50 kingoffrance; died with my nick
05:50 kingoffrance; *long before that
05:51 kingoffrance; i said to someone the other day: there's no cathedrals (grace is long gone, replaced by law) and no markets (above)
05:51 kingoffrance; *bazaars
05:51 kingoffrance; its a totally obsolete analogy by centuries :D
05:51 ahoy; whats left then?
05:52 kingoffrance; i was gonna say, sorry for so many lines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectacle_(critical_theory)
05:52 TR Bot; Spectacle (critical theory) - Wikipedia
05:52 kingoffrance; was pointed out by "marxists" that everything becomes more and more imaginary
05:52 kingoffrance; although "capitalists" might say the shoe is on the other foot
05:53 kingoffrance; well, there's simulations :)
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05:53 kingoffrance; corporation is mimicking a natural person
05:53 kingoffrance; credit is mimicking money, etc.
05:53 ahoy; a very hungry person
05:53 kingoffrance; lol
05:54 ahoy; and just a bit sociopathic
05:54 ahoy; you never meet a corporation you could really take home to meet your parents
05:54 ahoy; thats what marketing is for
05:55 kingoffrance; lol quite funny that word persists perhaps
05:55 kingoffrance; i wonder when that originated
05:55 ahoy; which one
05:55 ahoy; marketing?
05:55 kingoffrance; yeah "marketing". i read "medieval" "feudalism" because "gov" controlled, advertising was frowned upon. was seemed as sketchy...shady....bragging...someone who wasnt authorized
05:55 ahoy; to market, to market, to buy a fat hen
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05:56 IPFS; 272.45
05:56 kingoffrance; maybe markets were somewhere between feudalism and corporations?
05:56 ahoy; today they would sell the hen a gym membership, use instagram filters to make its butt look bigger, and then add some ingredient (stuffing?) to make it look fat after it wasnt anymore
05:57 ahoy; it takes a lot of work to make a product have something for everyone
05:57 kingoffrance; or before feudalism perhaps
05:57 ahoy; but it takes genius to sell someone the problem and the solution as a package deal
05:58 ahoy; windows! anti-virus! tech support!
05:58 ahoy; those guys are geniuses
05:59 ahoy; when windows screws up you install anti-virus, then when av screws up you call tech support, then when they screw up you buy a new computer
05:59 ahoy; and when you guy a new computer they sell you windows
05:59 ahoy; its like the circle of life, as a star wars prequel instead of the lion king
05:59 kingoffrance; lol somewhere in there is manure
05:59 kingoffrance; compost
05:59 ahoy; i already mentioned windows
05:59 kingoffrance; :D
06:01 CrystalMath; kingoffrance: there are still people doing voluntary exchanges
06:01 CrystalMath; eliminate violence, and you get a free market
06:01 ahoy; another circle of life
06:02 kingoffrance; CrystalMath, fair, i dont deny the total idea, just so much gets handwaved
06:02 ahoy; can you buy violence on the free market? if so, how much does it cost to eliminate, and who is selling?
06:02 kingoffrance; if you dont know what the product is, you're the product ? </s>
06:03 ahoy; if you can buy violence on the free market, going to all the trouble to eliminate it seems inefficient
06:03 CrystalMath; ahoy: that is a big problem :/
06:03 ahoy; it would be like going on a diet so you could fit more cake into yourself
06:04 CrystalMath; and how do i solve this problem?
06:04 CrystalMath; well it's very simple
06:05 CrystalMath; i sit on IRC and write crap all day, and believe that someone else will solve the problem in the future
06:05 ahoy; /me waves his hands
06:05 ahoy; i was close
06:05 ahoy; dont worry, you have LOTS of company
06:06 ahoy; people who dont know how to fix the economy constitute one of the vastest majorities on earth
06:06 ahoy; probably in history too
06:15 ahoy; hey, wait a minute!
06:15 ahoy; werent you for complete human extinction a year ago?
06:15 ahoy; of the voluntary variety of course?
06:15 ahoy; and now youre only for the extinction of a good portion of western civilisation?
06:16 ahoy; jokes aside, this is (depending who you ask) major progress
06:16 ahoy; at least for everyone but that portion of western civilisation
06:16 ahoy; but still, thats a lot
06:16 ahoy; literally billions
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06:17 ahoy; youre getting more efficient
06:17 ahoy; extinction of billions is VERY wasteful
06:19 ahoy; think about what a billion people could do
06:20 ahoy; like if we could calculate the most sandwiches i could possibly want to eat in a lifetime
06:20 ahoy; and you divide that number of sandwiches by billions
06:20 kingoffrance; i should that: "the spectacle" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGCZh5A8T4
06:20 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nRGCZh5A8T4
06:20 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nRGCZh5A8T4 )
06:20 ahoy; if everyone worked toegether to make me all the sandwiches i wanted
06:20 kingoffrance; Spaceballs (5/11) Movie CLIP - We're in Now Now (1987) HD
06:21 ahoy; then each individual would make me basically 0 sandwiches. they would all be free
06:21 ahoy; then just multiply that by billions, and everyone has sandwiches
06:23 ahoy; someone mentioned spaceballs to me last week
06:24 ahoy; /me tries to think of why
06:25 ahoy; that movie was a lot more clever than it looked
06:25 ahoy; it wouldnt take much
06:26 ahoy; kingoffrance: and that was years ahead of the matrix
06:27 ahoy; if i did a phd thesis now, it would be on why the matrix is actually a sequel to spaceballs
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06:40 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
06:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
06:40 TR Bot; AI can detect DNA that unlocks backdoors in lab software The Register
06:41 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/
06:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/
06:41 TR Bot; AI trojan horse techniques outpace defenses, study finds The Register
06:41 ahoy; that title is awful to parse
06:41 ahoy; clickbait grammar
06:42 ahoy; also el reg is microsoftish now, but its still an interesting looking story
06:42 ahoy; i think they helped lynch stallman so i never go there
06:45 ahoy; i do like to go back and double-check these things sometimes
06:46 ahoy; im definitely not mixing up el reg with another paper, but its possible im mixing it up with a difference offense
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06:48 AdmFubar; https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ibm_motion_age_discrimination/
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06:48 TR Bot; IBM fails to dismiss age-discrimination case linked to CEO The Register
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06:54 AdmFubar; https://torrentfreak.com/elon-musk-suggests-that-piracy-is-appealing-once-again-220222/
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06:54 TR Bot; Musk Suggests That Piracy is Appealing Once Again * TorrentFreak
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06:57 AdmFubar; https://torrentfreak.com/judge-jehovahs-witness-parodies-are-fair-use-watch-tower-so-what-220220/
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06:57 TR Bot; Jehovahs Witness Parodies Are Fair Use. Watch Tower: So What? * TorrentFreak
06:59 AdmFubar; https://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/notices/2022/0214-02.html
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06:59 TR Bot; outlines vision to offer digital infrastructure platform under new hybrid IT roadmap for connected, sustainable society : Fujitsu Global
07:04 AdmFubar; https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/02/22/145235/the-us-copyright-office-says-an-ai-cant-copyright-its-art?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
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07:04 TR Bot; The US Copyright Office Says an AI Can't Copyright Its Art - Slashdot
07:05 AdmFubar; https://science.slashdot.org/story/22/02/22/1538247/magpies-have-outwitted-scientists-by-helping-each-other-remove-tracking-devices?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
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07:05 TR Bot; Magpies Have Outwitted Scientists by Helping Each Other Remove Tracking Devices - Slashdot
07:05 ahoy; sweet
07:05 ahoy; magpies are ahead of most human society
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07:06 ahoy; both like shiny things, but magpies wont pay $1000 for a phone
07:07 AdmFubar; https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/oh-snap-security-holes-found-in-linux-packaging-system/
07:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxtoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/oh-snap-security-holes-found-in-linux-packaging-system/
07:07 TR Bot; Oh snap! Security Holes Found in Linux Packaging System | Linux Today
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07:10 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2022/02/25/surgically-implanted-bluetooth-devices-dont-help-would-be-exam-cheats/
07:10 TR Bot; Implanted Bluetooth Devices Dont Help Would-Be Exam Cheats | Hackaday
07:10 AdmFubar; next they will be sticking fish in their ears
07:12 ahoy; if aliens have anything on our technology, the future of telecom isnt surgical implants, its suppositories
07:12 ahoy; which also means a change in branding
07:13 ahoy; the iphone will become the aphone
07:14 ahoy; itll be worse if they stick them in their ears
07:15 ahoy; then youll be able to use the phone, but if you want to hear whats going on in the same room youll have to buy a dongle
07:15 AdmFubar; this town needs an enema!
07:15 ahoy; where did steve jobs get those wonderful toys?
07:15 AdmFubar; https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/02/24/new-report-released-on-deletion-of-millions-of-dallas-police-files/
07:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dallasnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/02/24/new-report-released-on-deletion-of-millions-of-dallas-police-files/
07:15 TR Bot; Dallas IT worker erased police files by accident, didnt have enough training, report says
07:15 ahoy; oh! steve jobs was really bruce wayne
07:16 ahoy; which means jony ive was robin
07:17 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/trickbot-malware-operation-shuts-down-devs-move-to-bazarbackdoor/
07:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/trickbot-malware-operation-shuts-down-devs-move-to-bazarbackdoor/
07:17 TR Bot; TrickBot malware operation shuts down, devs move to stealthier malware
07:17 ahoy; and steve wozniak was alfred, i guess
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07:46 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, February 25, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:46 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:46 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:46 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:48 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 25, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/irc-log-250222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/26/irc-log-250222/
07:48 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, February 25, 2022 | Techrights
07:52 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 8.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.48
07:56 TR News; #HowTo Configure Task Switcher in KDE Plasma Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161870 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:56 TR Bot; How to Configure Task Switcher in KDE Plasma Desktop | Tux Machines
08:01 TR News; Don't Panic! Everything You Need To Know About Kernel Panics https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/dont-panic-everything-you-need-to-know-about-kernel-panics/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
08:01 TR Bot; Don't Panic! Everything You Need To Know About Kernel Panics
08:01 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
08:02 TR News; Finance industry will be first to get to grips with GPT-3 - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/gpt3_financial_services_banking/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
08:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/gpt3_financial_services_banking/
08:02 TR Bot; Finance industry will be first to get to grips with GPT-3 The Register
08:02 TR News; No, you need to #deleteFacebook completely if you value #privacy https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-restricted-list/
08:02 TR Bot; How to Use Facebooks Restricted List to Maintain Your Privacy - Make Tech Easier
08:14 TR News; Hacking An Extra SATA Port Into A Thin Client | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/25/hacking-an-extra-sata-port-into-a-thin-client/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
08:14 TR Bot; An Extra SATA Port Into A Thin Client | Hackaday
08:15 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161871 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:15 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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08:25 TR News; Cascade Failures, Computer Problems, And Ohms Law: Understanding The Northeast Blackout Of 2003 | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/25/cascade-failures-computer-problems-and-ohms-law-understanding-the-northeast-blackout-of-2003/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
08:25 TR Bot; Failures, Computer Problems, And Ohms Law: Understanding The Northeast Blackout Of 2003 | Hackaday
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08:41 TR News; "It struck me that fermented foods could be said to have anti-capitalist tendencies. They scale badly. They are temperamental and reject industrialisation." gemini://notes.hugh.run/2021/2021-12-31.gmi
08:49 TR News; This week in KDE: Bugfixing Plasma 5.24 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161872 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE
08:49 TR Bot; This week in KDE: Bugfixing Plasma 5.24 | Tux Machines
08:49 TR News; My favorite casual #games to play on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161873 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:49 TR Bot; My favorite casual games to play on Linux | Tux Machines
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08:52 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161874 #Linux #TuxMachines
08:52 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.50
09:01 TR News; #India surpasses a billion active mobile subscriptions - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/india_mobile_and_pc_markets/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
09:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/india_mobile_and_pc_markets/
09:01 TR Bot; India surpasses a billion active mobile subscriptions The Register
09:02 TR News; #linuxfoundation : our spokespeople make fun of old people (comparing them to dinosaurs) http://techrights.org/2022/02/16/only-the-privileged/
09:02 TR Bot; When Only Rich and Powerful Corporations Can Use Slurs and Hurt Marginalised/Vulnerable People | Techrights
09:04 TR News; #linuxfoundation is a vicious, intolerant, deeply corrupt organisation that #linux the #kernel neither needs nor benefits from http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
09:04 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
09:05 TR News; You too would be stressed if you were pushing a #SCAM https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/02/25772553/dogecoin-core-developer-ross-nicoll-leaves-project-citing-stress #dogecoin #fakecoin #fakemoney
09:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: benzinga.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/02/25772553/dogecoin-core-developer-ross-nicoll-leaves-project-citing-stress
09:05 TR Bot; Core Developer Ross Nicoll Leaves Project Citing Stress - Dogecoin - United States Dollar ($DOGE) | Benzinga
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09:07 TR News; Chickenhawk Putler wants Kiev. Did nukes help prevent war? No, they did not.
09:09 TR News; According to companies and politicians who profit from nukes, the nukes are "for peace". According to oligarchs, tax evasion by the rich ("legalised" by them) is "creating jobs"...
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09:18 TR News; No, #nytimes , there is no "Returning to Normal" when the economy is collapsed and you're over 30 trillion dollars in debt with very low labour participation rates and massive inflation https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/upshot/paid-leave-covid-democrats.html
09:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/upshot/paid-leave-covid-democrats.html
09:18 TR Bot; A Key to Returning to Normal Is Paid Sick Leave, Democrats Say - The New York Times
09:20 TR News; #AllAfrica does not tell you that for years it has been bribed by #famousCriminal #billgates ... and now it defends the criminal that is bankrolling it https://allafrica.com/stories/202202250377.html see https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
09:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cjr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
09:20 TR Bot; No, Bill Gates Hasn't Called for Withdrawal of Covid Vaccines - False UK Story Republished On Nigerian Blog - allAfrica.com
09:20 TR Bot; Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review
09:22 TR News; #billgates -bribed media is shooting at straw men to promote the lie that Gates critics are generally all cranks. It's the same methods #5g #patent #cartel loves to use
09:22 TR News; 8,000 potential gravesites identified at East End Cemetery using drone and hydrology mapping software | Richmond Free Press https://richmondfreepress.com/news/2022/feb/24/8000-potential-gravesites-identified-east-end-ceme/ #richmondfreepress
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09:22 TR Bot; 8,000 potential gravesites identified at East End Cemetery using drone and hydrology mapping software | Richmond Free Press | Serving the African American Community in Richmond, VA
09:29 TR News; NEWS #MakeUseOf #gnu #linux 7 Areas Where Linux Is Easier Than Windows https://www.makeuseof.com/areas-linux-is-easier-than-windows/
09:29 TR Bot; 7 Areas Where Linux Is Easier Than Windows
09:30 TR News; NEWS #EPR #EU adopts electronic product information standard for medicines https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/168810/eu-adopts-electronic-product-information-standard-for-medicines/
09:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/168810/eu-adopts-electronic-product-information-standard-for-medicines/
09:30 TR Bot; EU adopts electronic product information standard for medicines
09:32 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware Chipmaker Nvidia investigates potential cyberattack https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/chipmaker-nvidia-investigates-potential-cyberattack/89841007 http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
09:32 TR Bot; Chipmaker Nvidia investigates potential cyberattack, CIO News, ET CIO
09:32 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
09:32 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #ComputerWorld # Windows is in Moscows crosshairs, too https://www.computerworld.com/article/3651490/windows-is-in-moscow-s-crosshairs-too.html http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
09:32 TR Bot; is in Moscows crosshairs, too | Computerworld
09:35 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance #UK politician who tweeted threat to nail journalists balls to the floor pushes user IDs to curb online abuse https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/25/22950506/uk-online-safety-verify-user-id-social-media-nadine-dorries-nail-balls-floor
09:35 TR Bot; UK politician who tweeted threat to nail journalists balls to the floor pushes user IDs to curb online abuse - The Verge
09:35 TR News; NEWS #FSF #Privacy #Surveillance Publication of the FSF-funded white papers on questions around Copilot https://www.fsf.org/news/publication-of-the-fsf-funded-white-papers-on-questions-around-copilot http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/balabhadra-alex-graveley-and-tomboy/
09:35 TR Bot; Publication of the FSF-funded white papers on questions around Copilot Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
09:35 TR Bot; Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VIII Mr. Graveleys Long Career Serving Microsofts Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHubs GPL Violations Machine) | Techrights
09:36 TR News; NEWS #CopenhagenPost #Privacy #Surveillance Man admits to illegally accessing intimate content of 500 women, but denies in absentia rape charges https://cphpost.dk/?p=131617
09:36 TR Bot; Man admits to illegally accessing intimate content of 500 women, but denies 'in absentia' rape charges - The Post
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09:45 TR News; NEWS #FOSSForce #redhat AlmaLinux Can Now Drive Power Processors https://fossforce.com/2022/02/almalinux-can-now-drive-power-processors/
09:45 TR Bot; AlmaLinux Can Now Drive Power Processors - FOSS Force
09:46 TR News; NEWS #Vice #Finance #Ukraine Wants to Ban #Russia From SWIFT. WTF Is SWIFT? https://www.vice.com/en/article/88gkq5/ukraine-wants-to-ban-russia-from-swift-wtf-is-swift
09:46 TR Bot; Ukraine Wants to Ban Russia From SWIFT. WTF Is SWIFT?
09:48 TR News; NEWS #TheEconomist #Politics Why the West is reluctant to deny #Russian banks access to SWIFT https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/02/25/why-the-west-is-reluctant-to-deny-russian-banks-access-to-swift
09:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/02/25/why-the-west-is-reluctant-to-deny-russian-banks-access-to-swift
09:48 TR Bot; the West is reluctant to deny Russian banks access to SWIFT | The Economist
09:49 TR News; NEWS #OICanadian #Politics #Russia restricts access to Facebook and accuses it of #censorship in full invasion of Ukraine https://oicanadian.com/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook-and-accuses-it-of-censorship-in-full-invasion-of-ukraine/
09:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: oicanadian.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://oicanadian.com/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook-and-accuses-it-of-censorship-in-full-invasion-of-ukraine/
09:49 TR Bot; Russia restricts access to Facebook and accuses it of censorship in full invasion of Ukraine - OI Canadian
09:49 TR News; NEWS #EsselGroup #Politics For 'censoring' domestic media, Russian government partially limits access to #Facebook https://www.wionews.com/world/for-censoring-domestic-media-russian-government-partially-limits-access-to-facebook-456624
09:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wionews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.wionews.com/world/for-censoring-domestic-media-russian-government-partially-limits-access-to-facebook-456624
09:49 TR Bot; 'censoring' domestic media, Russian government partially limits access to Facebook, World News | wionews.com
09:52 TR News; NEWS #Newsweek #Censorship Trump's Recently Launched TRUTH Social Under Fire for 'Censoring' Members https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-recently-launched-truth-social-under-fire-censoring-members-1682922
09:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: newsweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-recently-launched-truth-social-under-fire-censoring-members-1682922
09:52 TR Bot; Trump's Recently Launched TRUTH Social Under Fire for 'Censoring' Members
09:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 64.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.53
09:58 TR News; NEWS #EFF #Stalkerware EFF Urges #FTC to Investigate Stalkerware App Network Subject of TechCrunch Report https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/eff-urges-ftc-investigate-stalkerware-app-network-subject-techcrunch-report
09:58 TR Bot; EFF Urges FTC to Investigate Stalkerware App Network Subject of TechCrunch Report | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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10:07 XRevan86; Hah, inosmi.ru is one of the media RKN threatens to block.
10:08 XRevan86; It's a website owned by RT that specialises in translating articles from other languages to Russian.
10:08 XRevan86; They follow the "s/war/operation/" rule, but still got the warning.
10:09 XRevan86; * "s/war/operation/g"
10:10 schestowitz-TR; ukraine tech video
10:10 schestowitz-TR; recording in a minute
10:36 psydroid2; https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-milan-x-cpu-preorders-start-4300-dollars
10:36 TR Bot; AMD EPYC Milan-X CPU Pre-Orders Start at $4,300 | Tom's Hardware
10:36 psydroid2; more expensive AMD processors for Moronix readers
10:39 schestowitz; lol, would rather buy a car
10:41 TR News; #Dymo printers are putting #DRM in the paper: WTF! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/dymo-printers-are-putting-drm-in-the:a #rossmanngroup
10:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/dymo-printers-are-putting-drm-in-the:a
10:41 TR Bot; Dymo printers are putting DRM in the paper: WTF!
10:55 leah; i have been summoned
10:56 leah; i will read the morning news first
10:56 leah; my coffee+news morning schedule must be respected
10:58 leah; looks like kyiv is pretty much screwed and putin has achieved step 1 in rebuilding the russian empire. sad day
10:59 XRevan86; leah: Kiev has not been taken.
11:00 leah; ukraine also has a new tank man now
11:00 leah; there's a video of a guy standing in front of tanks. like china's tank man
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11:05 TR News; #idg is corrupt; another sponsored' 'article' https://www.cio.com/article/305541/can-security-really-be-open-source.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/IDG
11:05 TR Bot; Security Really Be Open Source? | CIO
11:05 TR Bot; IDG - Techrights
11:06 leah; does anyone have a source for things ahoy said earlier about fsf?
11:06 leah; or was that mainly hyperbole
11:06 XRevan86; 2490 people were detained in Russia since February 24th on anti-war demonstrations.
11:07 XRevan86; RKN is at ~war~ operation with Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.
11:08 XRevan86; Telegram is also experiencing problems, but it seems they're just under heavy load because of everyone talking about all the peacekeeping, rainbows and flowers and such.
11:09 *leah unsummoned
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11:10 XRevan86; leah: "peacekeeping, rainbows and flowers" <- For the record, that was sarcasm.
11:11 activelow; tchernobyl, officially ukraine de-militarized after soviet union collapsed
11:11 XRevan86; leah: If that was the reason for the unsummoning.
11:11 leah; i have been summoned again
11:12 leah; XRevan86: no, i just have work to do and did not find the rest of the backlog interesting
11:12 leah; i saw gossip about fsf earlier so i tuned in
11:12 activelow; if russian military finds anything, they got an explanation to smash heavily
11:12 leah; you did not offend me. i take what people say with a pinch of salt and a layer of thick skulls
11:13 leah; even if you were to say something truly offensive, this isn't my channel and i must respect the authority that exists here
11:13 leah; regarding ukraine
11:13 XRevan86; leah: Ah. There was so much backlog I can't even remember what was there about the FSF.
11:14 leah; ukraine is fucked. i've decided to ignore the news about it and just assume putin will win
11:14 leah; also, a prediction:
11:14 leah; russia will not be affected at all by sanctions, but the EU will greatly de-stabilize as a result of cutting off access to russian oil
11:14 leah; especially if russia is cut off from swift
11:14 XRevan86; leah: It's already affected.
11:14 leah; and especially in the east of the EU
11:15 leah; i'm of the assumption that the EU will split in two
11:15 activelow; including NATO members, who are supplied, 90% from russia
11:15 leah; the poorer countries to the east will likely ditch the EU and align with russia, for some sense of prosperity
11:15 leah; because those countries rely heavily on trade with russia, and in particular, russian oil
11:15 leah; nato, us and eu's defiance of russia in recent years was the result of them believing russia was bluffing in its aggressions
11:15 leah; now they know russia is serious
11:16 XRevan86; leah: Russia could've had friends like that, but the problem is that a rare country wants to have friends like Russia.
11:16 leah; in spite of their heroic rhetoric, i believe they will cave
11:16 leah; you don't fuck with russia, afterall
11:16 leah; i predict a new cold war, of sorts
11:16 activelow; Russia too supplies USA with Oil/Gas
11:16 leah; the EU will shrink, with power and influence refocusing in the west, and the east will be abandoned
11:17 XRevan86; leah: What about, say, Poland?
11:17 leah; poland is next
11:17 leah; i believe putin will invade poland
11:17 XRevan86; They ditched Russian raw materials.
11:17 leah; after pressuring it to leave the EU
11:17 leah; poland and hungary in particular already have strained relations with the EU
11:17 leah; i think they will leave the EU and buddy up with russia
11:18 XRevan86; Czechia is advocating for exile of Russia from SWIFT.
11:18 leah; and at first, things will be calm
11:18 leah; they will later be invaded and occupied by russia
11:18 XRevan86; They had good relations before. Not anymore.
11:18 leah; of course, there's another possibility:
11:18 leah; i don't think the population of russia largely supports this war
11:19 leah; for many years, there has been little opposition to putin because he didn't cross the line, so to speak
11:19 leah; but that will change
11:19 leah; it's possible that he will be ousted from power in the next 5-10 years
11:19 XRevan86; leah: "i don't think the population of russia largely supports this war" <- I can agree with that assessment.
11:20 DaemonFC; The Russians tried to land 60 paratroopers near Lviv, and they were all killed.
11:20 DaemonFC; Good.
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11:20 DaemonFC; But it kind of says the Russians don't have very good commanding officers, or just don't care how many of their soldiers die.
11:20 DaemonFC; I mean, who tries to invade a city with 60 paratroopers?
11:20 XRevan86; leah: But even preying on Ukraine is already a huge risk. Ye're overestimating Russia's strength.
11:21 leah; picture it for a moment
11:21 leah; picture a massive opposition within russia over the next few years
11:21 leah; and imagine what happens when the putin regime falls
11:21 DaemonFC; Ukraine is asking the Red Cross to remove the bodies of about 3,500 dead Russians.
11:21 leah; i see great things in the future
11:21 DaemonFC; This is not going as well as Putin had hoped.
11:21 leah; putin was a soldier stationed in east germany during the ussr years
11:21 DaemonFC; Now Putin is drunk on state TV. He's not even hiding it.
11:22 DaemonFC; He drinks on TV while he's making speeches.
11:22 XRevan86; leah: My point is that the idea that the east of the EU will align Russia one way or another is unrealistic.
11:22 leah; but thinks have changed
11:22 leah; things*
11:22 leah; he's the last bastion of that old war mindset
11:22 XRevan86; Maybe Hungary would.
11:23 XRevan86; But that's it.
11:23 leah; DaemonFC: lol really?
11:23 XRevan86; But even then Orban probably likes the position he's in rather than strongly taking a side.
11:23 DaemonFC; <leah> DaemonFC: lol really?
11:23 leah; regarding his drinking on state tv
11:24 DaemonFC; Yes, he was drunk on TV a couple days ago ranting about how Bill Clinton brushed him off more than 20 years ago when he asked about Russia being allowed in NATO.
11:24 DaemonFC; Among a list of other grievances.
11:25 XRevan86; He didn't strike me as drunk.
11:25 DaemonFC; Maybe Putin was wanting into NATO to try to corrupt it and make it incapable of doing anything about them, like the UN.
11:25 DaemonFC; The UN should throw Russia out and expel the ambassador and change the charter to remove them from the Security Council should they be allowed back someday.
11:26 activelow; the missing piece could be, given the risks, former soviet union weapons stockpiles
11:26 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Why do ye think he was drunk?
11:26 DaemonFC; The Atlantic described him as pouring shot after shot directly out of the bottle.
11:27 activelow; officially, Ukraine dismantled everything
11:27 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Any source? I didn't see any of that.
11:27 leah; russia's presence in the UN dates back to USSR years
11:27 leah; the soviet union was a member of the UN during those years
11:28 leah; i guess they just did mv ussr russian-federation when the wall fell
11:28 XRevan86; Right, Russia inherited the right to veto from USSR.
11:28 DaemonFC; Yeah, and Putin keeps saying he's withdrawing from treaties because the Soviet Union signed them and Russia isn't the Soviet Union.
11:28 DaemonFC; So they could also say if Russia admits it isn't the Soviet successor state, then it loses its seat on the Security Council.
11:28 leah; a lot of the infrastructure and ways of doing things were maintained from those years though
11:29 activelow; it was USA who withdrew from some nuclear arms weapons dismantling agreement some weeks ago
11:29 activelow; and, it was NATO who didn't keep their promise, to not expand beyond former east-germany
11:30 DaemonFC; The US didn't say it was withdrawing from certain treaties because it had negotiated them with the USSR. It said that it was withdrawing per the terms in the treaty for withdrawing from the treaty, and because Russia was violating the treaties anyway.
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11:30 leah; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#KGB_career
11:30 TR Bot; Vladimir Putin - Wikipedia
11:30 XRevan86; activelow: There was no such agreement made.
11:30 leah; read this. it's quite interesting
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11:31 activelow; XRevan86: wrong.
11:32 XRevan86; activelow: Show me a piece of paper with this promise and a signature.
11:34 DaemonFC; The French Navy seized a Russian cargo ship and forced it into port.
11:34 leah; now go look at videos of him singing the russian national anthem ;)
11:34 DaemonFC; Apparently, it was full of cars.
11:34 leah; i suspect vladi boy wants old ussr to come back
11:35 DaemonFC; They should dismantle the ship for scrap and donate the value to Ukraine's defense.
11:35 leah; anyway
11:35 *leah unsummoned
11:35 *XRevan86 decided to watch https://youtu.be/0zZsGgpMKQQ instead.
11:35 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0zZsGgpMKQQ
11:35 leah; you've reached the limit of your 30 day trial
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11:35 leah; every new summoning will cost $0.02
11:36 XRevan86; leah: Even for Putin singing?
11:36 activelow; XRevan86: https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/der-spiegel-stellt-sich-dumm-neuer-aktenfund-von-1991-stuetzt-russischen-vorwurf/
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11:36 XRevan86; activelow: https://meduza.io/feature/2022/02/25/odin-iz-argumentov-dlya-vtorzheniya-v-ukrainu-yakoby-dannoe-zapadom-obeschanie-ne-rasshiryat-nato-na-vostok-i-dazhe-nashlis-novye-dokumenty-kotorye-eto-podtverzhdayut
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11:36 TR Bot; NO TITLE
11:38 leah; well, i'm coded by the same people who coded winrar so...
11:38 DaemonFC; Stallman continues to defend the Russians by claiming that sanctions against them are useless.
11:39 XRevan86; leah: What about https://youtu.be/S6Ksc7R6jhc ?
11:39 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S6Ksc7R6jhc
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11:39 DaemonFC; Apparently, he doesn't seem to have any strong feelings about their war crimes and terrorist activities.
11:39 DaemonFC; Perhaps he'll go on their State TV again and promote the Russian Green Party.
11:39 DaemonFC; The Russian Green Party in the United States, that is.
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11:40 XRevan86; (Medvedev commented on Russia being expelled from the Council of Europe with a "Good.", because now Russia can return executions)
11:40 DaemonFC; Putin took Jill Stein out to dinner because he was simply fascinated to hear what a woman who got 0.2% of the presidential vote and wasn't even on the ballot in 12 states thought about foreign policy. :)
11:40 DaemonFC; And Green Party lawyers were funded by Russia and the Republican Party because those outfits really want progressive politics in America.
11:41 DaemonFC; Stallman isn't just a jerk, he's a moron on politics, and an authoritarian on the issues around COVID.
11:41 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Divide and conquer.
11:42 DaemonFC; The Green Party should be banned under the Communist Control Act.
11:42 DaemonFC; It specifically says "a communist party", but the Greens pretty much admit that they want Communism.
11:42 DaemonFC; So how do they get on the ballot?
11:43 XRevan86; leah: Did ye ever hear the Tragedy of the Russian Anthem? It's not a story the United Russia would tell you.
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11:46 leah; XRevan86: i didn't
11:46 leah; but i've heard the modern one
11:46 leah; it sounds almost the same as the old one
11:46 leah; i don't speak russian, but i assume they changed a few words
11:47 schestowitz; MinceR: https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/26/i-am-fleeing-ukraine-and-heading-to-hungary-what-do-i-need-to-know https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/25/hungary-to-allow-entry-for-everyone-coming-from-ukraine
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11:47 TR Bot; Telex: I am fleeing Ukraine and heading to Hungary. What do I need to know?
11:47 TR Bot; Telex: Hungary to allow entry for everyone coming from Ukraine
11:47 leah; for example, the one anthem refers to Stalin as "our leader"
11:47 leah; i'm assuming they changed that in the modern anthem :P
11:47 leah; (there's an english translation of the old one)
11:47 XRevan86; > Glinka's anthem was replaced soon after Yeltsin's successor, Vladimir Putin, first took office on 7 May 2000. The federal legislature established and approved the music of the National Anthem of the Soviet Union, with newly written lyrics, in December 2000, and it became the second anthem used by Russia after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
11:48 leah; ok
11:48 schestowitz; MinceR: more competition?
11:48 XRevan86; Sergey Mikhalkov composed with help of his son Nikita.
11:48 leah; if you study the history of that time, it's pretty amazing how non-violent the fall of ussr was
11:48 XRevan86; the lyrics that is
11:48 leah; most government collapses, of smaller countries, are violent
11:48 leah; and the result of a bloody revolution
11:48 leah; fall of ussr was pretty chill comparatively
11:48 XRevan86; leah: Well, relatively speaking.
11:49 leah; they had a recession for a few years but that was it
11:49 XRevan86; leah: One could consider the Chechen wars as part of the dissolution event.
11:49 leah; well, sure
11:50 leah; the crucial aspect of that was their leader at the time, allowed it all to happen
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11:50 leah; thats why the 1991 coup happened. but it failed
11:50 leah; they tried it too late
11:50 leah; soon after, the communist party was disbanded and a few months later... new russian flag!
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11:50 XRevan86; And the recent Azerbaijan/Armenia conflict is also an echo from the dissolution.
11:51 leah; you can see videos of the event from back then
11:51 XRevan86; leah: Gorbachev tried to pull a Lenin and failed.
11:51 leah; tanks rolled in to moscow but yeltsin said "no!" and that was that
11:52 XRevan86; The idea was that the union should be reformed with all willing participants.
11:52 leah; yeah "glasnost"
11:52 leah; but i think the only reason he failed was because of the 1986 chernobyl accident
11:52 leah; in the aftermath of that event, soviet authorities tried to cover it up
11:52 XRevan86; No, the SSG.
11:52 leah; and the people saw that things hadn't changed
11:53 leah; so they got fed up and "communism" lost its appeal to the masses
11:53 leah; which is to say:
11:53 leah; the soviet union fell in 1986
11:53 leah; 1991 was just an acknowledgement of that fact
11:53 XRevan86; Anyway, the coup pretty much buried SSG.
11:53 leah; a movement is only as strong as its number of followers
11:53 XRevan86; They wanted to prevent it and keep USSR, and they succeeded 50%.
11:54 leah; what is the ssg?
11:54 XRevan86; The Union of Sovereign States
11:54 leah; ok
11:54 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Union_Treaty
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11:55 DaemonFC; "Checks could be cut as soon as April, but none of the money will go directly to opioid victims or their families."
11:55 DaemonFC; Of course not. Why would the money go to the victims of the crime?
11:55 leah; XRevan86: so, you think the ussr would have stayed intact, if the ssg were signed and the coup never happened?
11:55 DaemonFC; When Big Daddy Government knows how to squander it all.
11:55 leah; if true, that would be historically extremely ironic
11:55 leah; given the aim of the coup back then
11:56 XRevan86; leah: Don't know, but it was Gorbachev's project, and the coup displaced him exactly because of it.
11:56 leah; they could have got like 30% of what they wanted. but they couped, then failed and got nothing
11:56 DaemonFC; https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-flat-tax-how-iowas-new-flat-tax-works/39230665
11:56 TR Bot; Iowa's new flat tax: how it works
11:56 XRevan86; leah: Pretty much.
11:56 DaemonFC; Iowa passes a flat income tax where most of the savings go to the state's richest residents.
11:56 XRevan86; leah: The coup also helped Yeltsin establish himself.
11:57 DaemonFC; It's already one of the worst states to own real property due to the property tax rates (that one is worse than Illinois).
11:57 leah; yeah
11:57 XRevan86; leah: And Yeltsin was instrumental to the dissolution of USSR.
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11:57 leah; so you had 3 factions in play:
11:57 leah; * kgb hardliners
11:57 leah; * ssg
11:57 DaemonFC; Putin's revisionist history says that the US has always sanctioned the Russian economy to keep it from growing.
11:57 leah; * yeltsin
11:57 XRevan86; leah: Pretty much.
11:58 DaemonFC; I suppose that from 1991 to 2014, having no sanctions at all means we were always sanctioning them.
11:58 DaemonFC; And just started in 2014 for no particular reason.
11:58 DaemonFC; It's up there with scientists walking out of a 15th floor window for the hell of it.
11:59 DaemonFC; He either thinks people (including the Russian public) are stupid enough to believe everything he says, or he just doesn't care what they think.
12:00 XRevan86; leah: To elaborate on "to pull a Lenin", Lenin wanted a confederation-like union united with a common goal (Communism). When Stalin formed USSR he pretty much only kept this idea in the name (the Union).
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12:01 XRevan86; leah: So the new treaty can be considered as de-Stalinisation in the roots of the USSR.
12:01 leah; yeah
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12:05 XRevan86; But Gorbachev's projects had a tendency to fail, so I'm avoiding saying that it would've succeeded if not for the coup.
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12:11 XRevan86; DaemonFC: holy
12:11 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I'm trying to figure out The Telegraph's source of information
12:12 XRevan86; They say "the MoD", but who the heck is that?
12:13 XRevan86; Ah, the Ministry of Defence :D
12:16 XRevan86; https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/d/db/Meatwagon.gif/revision/latest classified footage of it in action
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12:32 DaemonFC; Ukraine helped them incinerate some bodies.
12:32 DaemonFC; They shot down a Russian plane full of paratroopers yesterday. It had capacity for over 120.
12:33 DaemonFC; Russia has been acting like the Nazis in many ways. But one is they've been dressing their soldiers in Ukrainian military uniforms.
12:33 DaemonFC; Hitler authorized an operation like this.
12:34 DaemonFC; He had a bunch of German soldiers dress up in captured British and American uniforms.
12:35 DaemonFC; Doing this is banned under the Geneva Conventions and soldiers caught dressed in enemy uniforms have no rights as prisoners of war.
12:35 DaemonFC; They can be shot as spies.
12:39 DaemonFC; The sanctions seem to be hurting the Russian economy pretty badly.
12:39 DaemonFC; I read their stock market is down about 35%?
12:40 DaemonFC; Ours dropped a little, briefly, and then came right back up, and oil went back down about $10 a barrel.
12:47 DaemonFC; https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/stand-ground-laws-proliferate-trayvon-spotlight-83108254
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12:47 DaemonFC; Laws like stand your ground, or shoot first laws, give people like Jordans killer, my sons killer, the idea that you can shoot first and ask questions later, said Rep. Lucy McBath, who entered politics after her son Jordan Davis was slain at a Florida gas station in 2012 by a white man who was angry over the loud music the Black teenager and his friends had been playing in their car. Michael Dunn used the stand your ground
12:47 DaemonFC; law in his defense, but was convicted and is serving a life sentence.
12:47 DaemonFC; ---
12:48 DaemonFC; In other words, he was convicted, the defense failed, the judge didn't allow it, the jury saw right through him, and the system worked and found him guilty of murder.
12:48 DaemonFC; But she still complains that people even have the right to claim self-defense at all.
12:49 DaemonFC; This makes no sense. I was commenting on support or opposition of various Illinois laws the other day.
12:49 DaemonFC; One of them would amend the age of consent law to remove an affirmative defense that the alleged victim duped you into believing that they were 17.
12:51 DaemonFC; I said that there's no reason to deprive people of that defense because a jury should be allowed to consider it. They should be allowed to consider if it's a reasonable defense. The jury should be allowed to consider any defense you have for yourself, no matter how insane.
12:51 DaemonFC; If that's the one you're going with.
12:51 DaemonFC; And if you pick a bad hill to die on, that's on you.
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13:12 bnchs; so theres this NSA malware for GNU/Linux
13:13 bnchs; so the news (bleedingcomputer) reported on it with a FUD headline that seemed like it was a backdoor in the linux kernel
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13:39 activelow; bnchs: which backdoor?
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13:48 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.55
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14:04 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #ResearchGate Wins (& Loses) Scientific Publishers' Copyright Lawsuit https://torrentfreak.com/researchgate-wins-loses-scientific-publishers-copyright-lawsuit-220225/ http://techrights.org/2013/06/07/common-core-and-researchgate/
14:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/researchgate-wins-loses-scientific-publishers-copyright-lawsuit-220225/
14:04 TR Bot; Wins (& Loses) Scientific Publishers' Copyright Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
14:04 TR Bot; Bill Gates is Buying Out Education and Academia Using New Lobbies/Proxies Like Common Core and ResearchGate | Techrights
14:05 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Peru Teams Up With #IFPI to Fight Online Music Piracy https://torrentfreak.com/peru-teams-up-with-ifpi-to-fight-online-music-piracy-220225/
14:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/peru-teams-up-with-ifpi-to-fight-online-music-piracy-220225/
14:05 TR Bot; Teams Up With IFPI to Fight Online Music Piracy * TorrentFreak
14:05 psydroid2; anti-Steam and anti-GNU/Linux trolls are out in full force now that you can actually order the Steam Deck
14:05 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: as expecred
14:05 schestowitz-TR; so it means it does hurt windows
14:07 psydroid2; as it should
14:07 schestowitz; did you see all the scheduled "reviews"?
14:07 psydroid2; it should hurt windows so much that the malware product stops existing
14:07 schestowitz; in gulagtube?
14:07 schestowitz; lkined up "influencers"
14:07 schestowitz; lined
14:07 psydroid2; none of those
14:07 psydroid2; I am just reading comments on the Tweakers review
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14:08 psydroid2; those must be Microsoft employees
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14:08 psydroid2; no one would have as much to complain about a device that can run thousands of games at launch
14:08 activelow; i don't think Steam benefits GNU/Linux
14:08 psydroid2; Sony and Microsoft never had anything like that
14:09 SomeH4x0r; "at launch"? don't you have to download them separately?
14:09 psydroid2; of course you have to download them
14:09 psydroid2; so that's what you do
14:09 psydroid2; but they are available to run
14:10 SomeH4x0r; a PC or some other console can, if you provide it the medium with the games installed
14:10 psydroid2; I don't have a Steam Deck and I don't have any Steam games
14:10 SomeH4x0r; I doubt anyone "has" Steam games
14:10 psydroid2; a Steam Deck is another kind of PC
14:10 SomeH4x0r; use torrents, fuck DRM, kill devilopers
14:10 psydroid2; you rent/license them
14:11 psydroid2; well, good luck with that
14:11 SomeH4x0r; I doubt anyone cares about legality, they are just brainwashed
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14:11 SomeH4x0r; the police should gtfo the Internet
14:13 SomeH4x0r; on a regular PC one can also go to Steam and use the games from there
14:13 psydroid2; that's always possible
14:13 psydroid2; but I'm not going to tell people not to buy the hardware they want to buy
14:13 SomeH4x0r; they are brainwashed too
14:13 SomeH4x0r; they shouldn't buy new hardware in most cases
14:13 SomeH4x0r; it is all fucked up
14:14 SomeH4x0r; nonsense everywhere
14:25 bnchs; the microsoft-paid media encourages people to
14:25 bnchs; install windows on steam deck
14:27 bnchs; theres companies making up excuses or not addressing it at all (like roblox, epic games)
14:36 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #DMCA We Stand On The Precipice Of World War III, But, Sure, Let's All Talk About The DMCA And 'Standard Technical Measures' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220223/22025448530/we-stand-precipice-world-war-iii-sure-lets-all-talk-about-dmca-standard-technical-measures.shtml
14:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220223/22025448530/we-stand-precipice-world-war-iii-sure-lets-all-talk-about-dmca-standard-technical-measures.shtml
14:36 TR Bot; Stand On The Precipice Of World War III, But, Sure, Let's All Talk About The DMCA And 'Standard Technical Measures' | Techdirt
14:40 TR News; Arm China boss happy with #Nvidia acquisition collapse - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/arm_china_ceo_wants_independence/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
14:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/arm_china_ceo_wants_independence/
14:40 TR Bot; Arm China boss happy with Nvidia acquisition collapse The Register
14:40 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
14:44 schestowitz; The invasion occurred at the very moment when it appeared to have attracted maximum attention to its legitimate grievances against NATO and the U.S., and when several Western European states were suing for peace. French president Emmanuel Macrons shuttle diplomacy conducted it appears, without U.S. sanction was creating momentum for a settlement that might forever (or nearly so) deny Ukraine membership in NATO
14:44 schestowitz; https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/25/over-your-dead-body/
14:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/25/over-your-dead-body/
14:44 TR Bot; Your Dead Body - CounterPunch.org
14:44 schestowitz; USA never looked so weak..
14:45 schestowitz; bnchs: sooner or later epic too will surrender
14:45 schestowitz; they already port to android
14:45 schestowitz; which runs on top of Linux
14:45 schestowitz; it's just a game of numbers
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14:45 MinceR; 26 063641 < CrystalMath> but so, if good is unknowable, then i want the taliban to exist, since maybe they're good, who knows
14:46 MinceR; they're obviously evil
14:46 MinceR; they took the most evil religion on the planet and took it to 11
14:46 MinceR; s/took it/dialed it up/
14:47 schestowitz; didn't KSA do that?
14:47 schestowitz; iirc, KSA regime is even more strict than Taliban
14:47 schestowitz; on a number of things
14:47 schestowitz; unless you are a tourist
14:47 schestowitz; then they want your money
14:52 activelow; the perpetrators were foreign exchange students, residing in Hamburg/Germany
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14:55 activelow; anyway, finished implementing a 256bit loopdev transformation; with 32bit datatypes, and BE/LE-conversion in place too
14:56 activelow; it's ~100LoC inside kernel; plus a tiny userspace tool to setup things
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14:56 TR News; Haiku Activity & Contract Report: January 2022 https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-02-05_haiku_activity_contract_report_january_2022/
↺ https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-02-05_haiku_activity_contract_report_january_2022/
14:56 TR Bot; Haiku Activity & Contract Report: January 2022 | Haiku Project
14:57 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:57 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
14:57 TR News; Review: Slimbook Executive Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:57 TR Bot; Review: Slimbook Executive | Tux Machines
15:00 activelow; optimized this for speed slightly, to loop byte 0..511 once only per sector, to expand 32byte block-key seeded/hased with the 32bit sectorid to 512byte and XORed bytewise... it's save
15:01 TR News; Adding buzzwords to #hardware https://www.realwire.com/releases/Codasips-latest-RISC-V-embedded-cores-enable-AIML-edge-customization
15:01 TR Bot; Codasips latest RISC-V embedded cores enable AI/ML edge customization
15:02 XRevan86; Looks like disconnect of Russia from SWIFT is a decided thing.
15:03 TR News; #BetaNews has been posting loads of #webspam lately. SPAM disguised as "articles"... that site won't last or won't survive the next few years. They try to "cash in" on what's left...
15:04 TR News; Misleading #Microsoft #propaganda from #MSPoweruser ... Microsoft requires A LOT MORE than a Net connection https://mspoweruser.com/windows-11-pro-will-require-internet-connection/
15:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mspoweruser.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mspoweruser.com/windows-11-pro-will-require-internet-connection/
15:04 TR Bot; 11 Pro installation will soon require an internet connection - MSPoweruser
15:05 TR News; Why the US Is Using Semiconductors to Curtail Russia's Ukraine Invasion https://gizmodo.com/us-russia-ukraine-invasion-semiconductors-sanctions-1848591007 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
15:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/us-russia-ukraine-invasion-semiconductors-sanctions-1848591007
15:05 TR Bot; Why the US Is Using Semiconductors to Curtail Russia's Ukraine Invasion
15:05 TR Bot; CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
15:06 activelow; on top of such a loopdev, i'll place nilfs2, which i had written fsck for, valseg utility to verify segment CRC32
15:06 TR News; 3 Approaches to Leveraging Open Source in the Cloud https://www.itprotoday.com/performance-management/3-ways-leverage-open-source-cloud #itprotoday should know there's no such thing as "the clown"... they could just say "server"
15:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itprotoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itprotoday.com/performance-management/3-ways-leverage-open-source-cloud
15:06 TR Bot; 3 Approaches to Leveraging Open Source in the Cloud | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
15:06 activelow; it's better than device-mapper integrity
15:07 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: no more donations from Russia *sobs*
15:07 schestowitz-TR; (sarcasm)
15:08 activelow; disadvantage: loopdev is slower than device-mapper/lvm, even without crypto applied, it's some other kernel-internal issue somewhere
15:08 activelow; however, i am using this on some ultra-low power ARM SBC
15:09 activelow; md-raid1->loopdev(256bit known-plaintext resistent)->nilfs2 with segment crc
15:09 TR News; #SteamDeck 101: Everything You Need to Know About Valves Handheld Gaming PC | PCMag https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/steam-deck-101-everything-you-need-to-know-about-valves-handheld-gaming #pcmag
15:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/steam-deck-101-everything-you-need-to-know-about-valves-handheld-gaming
15:09 TR Bot; Deck 101: Everything You Need to Know About Valve's Handheld Gaming PC | PCMag
15:09 activelow; with this, online-backups are possible, easily, even with crypto and integrity in place on top of md-raid, which is awesome
15:11 activelow; 30MiB/s, cheapo USB-sata dock, 100% cpu utilization with disk i/o and wireguard-protected gigabit ethernet inside LAN
15:13 TR News; #microsoft #windows TCO: "ESET dubbed the nasty Win32/KillDisk.NCV. It's understood the code not only wipes files from the drive, it also nukes the MBR, making booting and recovery difficult or impossible thereafter." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/ukraine_wiper_malware/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
15:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/ukraine_wiper_malware/
15:13 TR Bot; Hundreds of Ukraine computers hit with wiper malware ESET The Register
15:14 TR News; #SteamDeck Review in Progress https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-review #kde #gnu #linux
15:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ign.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-review
15:14 TR Bot; Deck Review in Progress - IGN
15:14 activelow; i could use some help, with testing TinyCC against kernel 5.10 for aarch32 or aarch64
15:15 activelow; there's certainly some parts missing to implement, in particular ASM processing related, which is incomplete for aarch32 and absent for aarch64
15:15 activelow; and both musl-libc and kernel require this
15:15 TR News; The Astro Slide A modern phone with a full-sized mechanical keyboard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161878 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:15 TR Bot; The Astro Slide A modern phone with a full-sized mechanical keyboard | Tux Machines
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15:16 activelow; otherwise, the no-c++ userspace is ready for action too, to be compiled with TinyCC
15:19 activelow; once done, i'll not bother with GNU/Linux that much anymore
15:19 TR News; Meet airyxOS, Open-Source macOS Alternative In The Making Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:19 TR Bot; Meet airyxOS, Open-Source macOS Alternative In The Making | Tux Machines
15:19 TR News; #TerraMaster F4-422 Upgrade TrueNAS Core to #TrueNAS Scale for Docker Compatibility Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:19 TR Bot; TerraMaster F4-422 Upgrade TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale for Docker Compatibility | Tux Machines
15:22 TR News; Step Onto TrueNAS Scale - PC Perspective http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161880#comment-32913
15:22 TR Bot; TerraMaster F4-422 Upgrade TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale for Docker Compatibility | Tux Machines
15:24 activelow; i'm not particularly happy with NFSv3, nonetheless it's good enough, 30MiB/s, and NFS is what it is
15:24 TR News; This is not what a back door actually means https://www.techradar.com/news/this-linux-backdoor-went-undetected-for-10-years see http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/ what back doors are: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
15:24 TR Bot; Linux backdoor went undetected for 10 years | TechRadar
15:24 TR Bot; CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
15:24 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
15:25 activelow; too i'll try to patch kernel to remove capability and ptrace support entirely
15:30 XRevan86; schestowitz: The implications are wide.
15:31 XRevan86; For countries that do business with Russia and for people who work remotely for an international company without a local presence.
15:31 XRevan86; And for a company's local presence too, since they have to exchange funds somehow.
15:42 TR News; WTH??? #betanews TOP sections: "Windows 10 Windows 11 Microsoft". Hey BetaNews, what are you doing? YOU ARE GIVING AWAY WHAT AN #astroTurfing site you are! http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfing
15:42 TR Bot; AstroTurfing - Techrights
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15:43 bnchs; schestowitz, he doesnt want to port fortnite to GNU/Linux
15:44 bnchs; but he does want to port to android
15:44 bnchs; which can be modified with a custom kernel
15:44 bnchs; and his reason for not porting to GNU/Linux is because "custom kernels"
15:45 bnchs; mental gymnastic going on his brian
15:45 bnchs; s/brian/brain/
15:46 TR News; "In other words, installing Windows 11 Pro will now, just like 11 Home, also require a Microsoft Account and thus an internet connection. You didnt think pro users would be safe from big techs data hunger, now, did you?" https://www.osnews.com/story/134584/windows-11-pro-to-also-requite-microsoft-account-during-installation/
15:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134584/windows-11-pro-to-also-requite-microsoft-account-during-installation/
15:46 TR Bot; 11 Pro to also requite Microsoft Account during installation OSnews
15:46 TR News; The #Tails operating system: What is it, who is it for, and how does it protect your identity online Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:46 TR Bot; The Tails operating system: What is it, who is it for, and how does it protect your identity online | Tux Machines
15:48 bnchs; free software devs are starting to sabotage their own software
15:48 bnchs; to make it unusable for russians
15:48 XRevan86; bnchs: Any example?
15:49 psydroid2; actual free software devs are writing free software as theyalways
15:50 psydroid2; they've always done*
15:50 bnchs; https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma/commit/a6fd626fb89b6fe8aa8c3bc2e614d26bf5be6e28
15:50 TR Bot; Russian language, ask Putin to stop the war and unlock it louislam/uptime-kuma@a6fd626 GitHub
15:51 bnchs; he straight up deleted the ENTIRE russian locale
15:51 bnchs; for a war
15:51 XRevan86; bnchs: Russian-speaking Ukrainians that fight for their country probably appreciate the gesture.
15:51 psydroid2; indeed
15:52 psydroid2; this isn't in any way a solution
15:52 bnchs; he replaced all the russian language messages with "Ask Putin to stop the war"
15:52 bnchs; which means everything will say that
15:52 XRevan86; Yes, this is a stupid futile move that will not have any positive effect.
15:53 bnchs; imagine ruining your integrity for a war
15:53 XRevan86; Imagine not having Russian citizenship but still getting a nag to ask Putin for anything.
15:54 bnchs; Ask Putin to unlock
15:55 bnchs; im pretty sure you can find other examples of free software devs sabotaging their software for russians
15:55 bnchs; like proprietary software
15:55 bnchs; (only on github)
15:56 psydroid2; "Ask the House of Saud to unlock Arabic language for all Moroccans. Until that time you are going to going to get French and German. Or English if you pay us enough"
15:56 psydroid2; are only going*
15:56 XRevan86; https://youtu.be/5TyDBiUaGAI?t=295
15:56 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:57 XRevan86; I guess she is trying to ask Putin, but a bit differently.
15:57 TR News; ...nations die when they fail to keep their population well educated, informed, competitive https://spectrumnews1.com/ky/louisville/news/2022/02/17/fewer-education-majors
15:57 TR Bot; Fewer people are getting certified to teach in Kentucky
15:58 TR News; In case the news from #ukraine didn't put you down... https://en.mercopress.com/2022/02/24/antarctic-sea-ice-set-of-a-new-record-low-minimum-greenpeace
15:58 TR Bot; Antarctic sea ice set of a new record low minimum, Greenpeace MercoPress
15:58 XRevan86; psydroid2 will be able to differentiate the languages.
15:59 TR News; Lovely photo, but sad news https://goodmenproject.com/environment-2/as-climate-change-melts-antarctic-ice-gentoo-penguins-venture-further-south/
15:59 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://goodmenproject.com/environment-2/as-climate-change-melts-antarctic-ice-gentoo-penguins-venture-further-south/ )
15:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: goodmenproject.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://goodmenproject.com/environment-2/as-climate-change-melts-antarctic-ice-gentoo-penguins-venture-further-south/
16:00 psydroid2; this is obviously Russian spoken by Ukrainian soldiers, even though the title of the video is in Ukrainian
16:01 psydroid2; several of my friends are from Kharkov and Russian is their first language
16:01 XRevan86; Would be a shame if they try to use uptime-kuma
16:02 psydroid2; I hope other developers won't follow the example of this developer and butcher their software based on a language that is not spoken just in Russia but all over current and former Soviet nations
16:02 bnchs; they will just download the source code of uptime-kuma and apply a restored russian localization patch
16:03 bnchs; the problem is if the localization becomes outdated
16:03 bnchs; you would need translators to keep it updated
16:03 TR News; "I spoke to him from his home in Helsinki and he explained that when early programmers built the Unix system, which many programs run on, they used a code with a time limit." https://www.alabamanews.net/2022/02/24/what-the-tech-why-the-end-of-time-for-some-computer-programs-and-systems-is-coming/
16:03 TR Bot; What the Tech? Why the End of Time for Some Computer Programs and Systems is Coming - Alabama News
16:04 TR News; LOL!!! #OnMSFT WTF???? https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-details-updates-coming-to-windows-11-notepad
16:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: onmsft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-details-updates-coming-to-windows-11-notepad
16:04 TR Bot; details updates coming to Windows 11 Notepad - OnMSFT.com
16:04 psydroid2; I think you would just fork the project before this patch was integrated and never touch the original project again, because its maintainer can't be trusted to keep (real-life non-software) politics out of the project
16:05 TR News; #linux is a #kernel Sandra ... it does not done "pipes" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3651350/using-pipes-on-linux-to-get-a-lot-more-done.htmlhttp://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
16:05 TR Bot; Welcome to Network World.com
16:05 psydroid2; I'm not saying people shouldn't be political, but there are other ways to get involved than sabotaging something like this
16:05 bnchs; a developer who butchers their software for real-life politics is not worth trusting
16:05 TR News; #linux is a #kernel Sandra ... it does not done "pipes" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3651350/using-pipes-on-linux-to-get-a-lot-more-done.html http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
16:05 TR Bot; Using pipes on Linux to get a lot more done | Network World
16:05 TR Bot; GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
16:06 bnchs; political opinions should not get in the way of software development
16:06 bnchs; (real-life non-software)*
16:06 schestowitz-TR; soon we'll have
16:06 schestowitz-TR; "pro-lifer coders"
16:07 schestowitz-TR; "Trumpist testers"
16:07 schestowitz-TR; "Libertarian bug reporter"
16:07 bnchs; in other words, firefox will now filter out "adult" sites from the top sites list
16:07 schestowitz-TR; "Atheist salesperson"
16:07 schestowitz-TR; as if mixing these things is healthy..
16:07 bnchs; with a hard-coded MD5 list
16:07 bnchs; https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/newtab/lib/FilterAdult.jsm
16:07 TR Bot; FilterAdult.jsm - mozsearch
16:08 bnchs; https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/newtab/lib/TopSitesFeed.jsm#836
16:08 TR Bot; TopSitesFeed.jsm - mozsearch
16:08 bnchs; they could insert anything into that MD5 list
16:08 bnchs; you cant disable the filter anyway
16:09 TR News; Vladolf Putler can close this bug universally while going on nuclear-armed warpath https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/24/what-tech-end-time-is-nigh-according-computers-anyway/
16:09 TR Bot; What the Tech: The end of time is nigh (according to computers anyway)
16:09 TR News; #microsoft sites like this propaganda https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/nsa-linked-bvp47-linux-backdoor-widely-undetected-for-10-years/ it's not a back door. See http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
16:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/nsa-linked-bvp47-linux-backdoor-widely-undetected-for-10-years/
16:09 TR Bot; NSA-linked Bvp47 Linux backdoor widely undetected for 10 years
16:09 TR Bot; CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
16:10 TR News; 15K is STILL faaar too much https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-details-Alder-Lake-P-and-Alder-Lake-U-Significant-multi-core-gains-over-Core-i7-1195G7-but-Ryzen-7-5800U-shows-higher-efficency-at-15-W.603493.0.html the batteries won't last long. #intel is doomed. Even its own workers flee: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
16:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-details-Alder-Lake-P-and-Alder-Lake-U-Significant-multi-core-gains-over-Core-i7-1195G7-but-Ryzen-7-5800U-shows-higher-efficency-at-15-W.603493.0.html
16:10 TR Bot; details Alder Lake-P and Alder Lake-U: Significant multi-core gains over Core i7-1195G7, but Ryzen 7 5800U shows higher efficency at 15 W - NotebookCheck.net News
16:10 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
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16:11 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.56
16:11 bnchs; https://gist.github.com/roycewilliams/04ed6eb9509b83ce4d85873861c7f7b4
16:11 TR Bot; firefox-adult-inadjacency-cracked.txt GitHub
16:11 bnchs; they cracked the MD5 hashes
16:11 XRevan86; bnchs: They probably think "what should I do to help the cause?" and then look at a thing they have domain over (a project), and this is what they come up with.
16:12 bnchs; XRevan86: and then you see websites and projects literally banning russia
16:12 TR News; In the eyes of #clownflare if you do not run some foreign, unknown #proprietarySofware code (JS, an ACTUAL security risk!) it makes you suspicious and they'll obstruct access to punish you. #cloudflare is CANCER ON THE WEB. We need to eradicate this cancer.
16:12 bnchs; and trying to sabotage russians in a way that guy did
16:13 bnchs; fuck up the russian localization
16:13 XRevan86; bnchs: Right.
16:13 schestowitz-TR; how about they focus on their sites?
16:14 schestowitz-TR; and leave politics to political sites?
16:15 XRevan86; It's like Fair Licences. It's also in the "I appreciate the effort but this isn't helping" category.
16:15 MinceR; 26 154708 <~schestowitz> didn't KSA do that?
16:15 MinceR; many fundies did that
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16:17 bnchs; i almost forgot about that russian mypal guy that was working on a windows xp port of firefox quantum
16:17 bnchs; i wonder what hes doing
16:20 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: whatever happens, we don't do boycotts or anything
16:21 schestowitz-TR; Russians who do not vote for Putin are also victims
16:21 XRevan86; schestowitz: I know.
16:21 schestowitz-TR; [09:57] <techrights-news> NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Ukraine Im panicking where is my child? Conscript soldiers are being sent to fight against Ukraine, their relatives say. Heres what their families told Meduza. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/02/26/i-m-panicking-where-is-my-child
16:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/02/26/i-m-panicking-where-is-my-child
16:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE
16:22 XRevan86; "Conscript soldiers are being sent to fight against Ukraine" <- That's illegal by Russian law, by the way. Not that anyone cares.
16:22 schestowitz-TR; Who knew Mother Russia was some 70 year old man allegedly with Parkinson's and self-esteem issues?
16:24 XRevan86; bnchs: I just looked up his email, and boy it must be very old.
16:24 activelow; a highest ranking german army general admitted, not being ready for action
16:24 activelow; yesterday evening
16:25 TR News; A Rare Public Fight Over Facts Erupts Before Supreme Court Arguments | National Law Journal https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2022/02/24/a-rare-public-fight-over-facts-erupts-before-supreme-court-arguments/ #law
16:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: law.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2022/02/24/a-rare-public-fight-over-facts-erupts-before-supreme-court-arguments/
16:25 TR Bot; Rare Public Fight Over Facts Erupts Before Supreme Court Arguments | National Law Journal
16:26 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-35.jpg
16:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-35.jpg
16:26 XRevan86; From like early 2000s
16:28 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: so you like bears, too
16:29 TR News; #proprietarySoftware is a dead end https://www.techradar.com/news/fujitsu-is-ending-its-mainframe-and-unix-services
16:29 TR Bot; is ending its mainframe and Unix services | TechRadar
16:31 TR News; Good for the environment https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dell_q4_2022/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/
16:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dell_q4_2022/
16:31 TR Bot; Component shortages still challenging Dell The Register
16:31 TR Bot; My Year as a Digital Vegan Part IX Hard Reckonings: The Nine Circles of E-Waste | Techrights
16:33 TR News; Why the "Windows" slant here? Editor's clickbait? https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/neptune_os_sel4_windows/
16:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/neptune_os_sel4_windows/
16:33 TR Bot; Neptune OS to add Windows personality to seL4 microkernel The Register
16:33 TR News; #ponzischemes are a crime here, too https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/china_cryptocurrency_illegal_fundraising_crime/
16:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/china_cryptocurrency_illegal_fundraising_crime/
16:33 TR Bot; China makes using cryptocurrency a crime The Register
16:34 XRevan86; bnchs: By the way, from his screenshot we know he lives in a village Boyarka either under Kiev, under Novosibirsk or in Udmurtia.
16:34 MinceR; if the state can effectively prevent cryptocurrencies from being used, then cryptocurrencies have failed their purpose anyway
16:34 bnchs; oh?
16:34 XRevan86; bnchs: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/blob/9ed70017c77c3be71d986ca0fc2ba355f5aff17f/README.md screenshot here
16:34 TR News; More inflation after #russia invades #ukraine https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ukraine_chipmaking_supply/
16:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ukraine_chipmaking_supply/
16:34 TR Bot; at 9ed70017c77c3be71d986ca0fc2ba355f5aff17f Feodor2/Mypal GitHub
16:34 TR Bot; Ukraine invasion may hit chip supply chain analysts The Register
16:35 bnchs; morocco already banned crypto in 2017(?)
16:35 XRevan86; bnchs: The OZON page has location selected: Boyarka.
16:35 XRevan86; I don't think OZON works in Ukraine, so it's either Novosibirsk oblast' or Udmurtia.
16:36 XRevan86; Though actually, Kiev oblast' does show up.
16:36 XRevan86; So many it does/did work in Ukraine.
16:36 bnchs; yes
16:39 TR News; #SimonSharwood perpetuates the idea that the #gartner #fraud is somewhat of an authority https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/manage_long_lead_times_for_networking_equipment/ #gartnergroup = glorified, well-funded shills: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
16:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/manage_long_lead_times_for_networking_equipment/
16:39 TR Bot; Network equipment lead times to remain painfully long into 2023: Gartner The Register
16:39 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
16:40 TR News; Any time an editor or journalist puts "AI" or "Metaverse" in a headline he or she gives away a lack of interest in actual journalism
16:40 bnchs; so epic games tried to offer a game dev a exclusivity deal on epic games store
16:40 schestowitz-TR; typical
16:40 bnchs; the dev refused, and epic games responded by banning his game from the epic games store
16:40 schestowitz-TR; here's my question
16:40 schestowitz-TR; how is that legal?
16:40 schestowitz-TR; how does this NOT harm the PUBLIC?
16:41 schestowitz-TR; These are deals designed to induce self benefit at the public's expense
16:41 schestowitz-TR; and the contracts should be sent to regulatory agencies for potential prosectoin
16:41 XRevan86; bnchs: His living in a village kind of explains why he invested time in MyPal rather than in a more powerful PC.
16:41 schestowitz-TR; like Intel telling stores NOT to stock any "rival" chips
16:41 schestowitz-TR; and then they call it "free market'
16:42 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: Tim Swine-e
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16:44 bnchs; schestowitz-TR: the joke is that you cant release your games on both the epic games store and steam
16:44 bnchs; https://www.pcgamer.com/darq-developer-reveals-why-he-turned-down-epic-store-exclusivity/
16:44 TR Bot; DARQ developer turned down Epic Games Store exclusivity | PC Gamer
16:44 TR News; There's hardly any news on the #www about #russia and #ukraine ... lots of #propaganda , sure, and the actual news gets drowned out by the noise. #socialcontrolmedia by far the WORST.
16:45 bnchs; when its apple doing the antitrust, its BAD. but when its epic doing the antitrust, its good?
16:46 TR News; You've gotta love how #fakeCoin sites always pose with photos of ACTUAL coins, typically made of ACTUAL precious metals, to give you the illusion BTC isn't another bubble among many (sans the hype)... or is backed by a material thing https://coingeek.com/hey-david-rosenthal-a-response-from-one-industry-visionary-to-another/
16:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: coingeek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://coingeek.com/hey-david-rosenthal-a-response-from-one-industry-visionary-to-another/
16:46 TR Bot; David Rosenthal: A response from one industry visionary to another - CoinGeek
16:47 XRevan86; Gasprom Media fired two producers for anti-war statements because they are "spreading radical political views"
16:47 XRevan86; At least they're not extremists yet.
16:47 TR News; Even "dead president heads" money is a lot more legitimate than all this "BTC" hype. And even of those are dead presidents of some country like #peru ... at least you can buy material things with it, and will be able to 20 years from now as well
16:48 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: not "foreign agents"
16:48 XRevan86; or terrorists
16:48 schestowitz-TR; war is not extreists
16:48 schestowitz-TR; questioning war is "radical"
16:49 bnchs; tim sweeney still tweets about apple everyday
16:49 bnchs; trying to think that apple isnt living in his head rent-free
16:50 TR News; All this computation poppycock and "proof of concept" etc. is how some #ponzischemes try to pass themselves as "science", more legitimate than the rest, even expensive (you pay with your power bills, don't you? That must turn into SOMETHING!)
16:51 TR News; #bitcoin proponents made to look like cranks https://cryptobriefing.com/no-linus-torvalds-is-not-satoshi-nakamoto/
16:51 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cryptobriefing.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cryptobriefing.com/no-linus-torvalds-is-not-satoshi-nakamoto/
16:51 TR Bot; No, Linus Torvalds Is Not Satoshi Nakamoto - Crypto Briefing
16:52 TR News; "Spyderbat has appointed Linux and Unix expert Hal Pomeranz to its Advisory Board." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/02/02/spyderbat-hal-pomeranz/ Never heard of Pomeranz... promotional exaggeration?
16:52 TR Bot; Hal Pomeranz joins Spyderbat Advisory Board - Help Net Security
16:53 TR News; "EDGE"!!! "5G"!!!! "HEY HI"!!! #intel in crisis... let's overcompensate with #buzzwords https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/intel_xeon_d_openvino/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
16:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/intel_xeon_d_openvino/
16:53 TR Bot; Intel unveils new 5G and AI tech for the edge The Register
16:53 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
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16:57 TR News; #microsoft #propaganda site #MotleyFool (yes, connection) is playing up pure BS, "Metaverse". Seems the business model is such sites is spreading lies and promoting scams/schemes.
16:58 TR News; "Ambassador CLOWN". Imagine having a CLOWN as your Ambassador https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/02/24/2391397/0/en/Latest-Ambassador-Cloud-Dramatically-Reduces-Complexity-Across-the-Entire-Software-Development-Lifecycle-for-Kubernetes.html #clowncomputing #buzzwords #bullshit
16:58 TR Bot; Latest Ambassador Cloud Dramatically Reduces Complexity
17:00 TR News; Has the #linuxfoundation not (yet) spun of some "NFT Foundation" or something? They've spun off so many others lies, scams, and #reputationlaundering (by #openwashing mostly) things, so why not NFT?
17:00 TR News; Growing Black tech leaders: It takes a village https://www.verizon.com/about/parenting/growing-black-tech-leaders-it-takes-village see #linuxfoundation http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/
17:00 TR Bot; Black tech leaders: It takes a village | About Verizon
17:00 TR Bot; Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights
17:01 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326208/ memeful
17:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pravda.com.ua | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326208/
17:01 TR Bot; ''Russian train, go f*ck yourself!'': all the railway junctions with Russia have been destroyed | Ukrayinska Pravda
17:01 bnchs; i like everyone is just sabotaging the innocent russians
17:01 bnchs; instead of puti
17:02 XRevan86; bnchs: Um, this makes sense, railways can be used for malice.
17:02 TR News; The only black people #linuxfoundation 'employs' are fictional people whom white executives use as an excuse to water down language used to explain how corporations treat the #freesw community (altruistic volunteers) http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/
17:02 schestowitz; XRevan86: railguns
17:03 MinceR; putler is a pussy, he's not easy to reach
17:03 TR News; "It is noted that this was done in order to block Russian Railways from delivering equipment and personnel of the Russian Army" https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326208/
17:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pravda.com.ua | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326208/
17:04 bnchs; ask putin to unlock the railways
17:04 bnchs; send a mail
17:04 schestowitz-TR; maybe the disease will kill him soon, but not soon enough
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17:05 bnchs; how are you gonna escape russia now
17:05 XRevan86; bnchs: Not through Ukraine.
17:05 schestowitz; https://plainsmenpost.com/leaked-document-says-roman-abramovich-was-of-interest-to-uk-over-links-to-russian-state/
17:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: plainsmenpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://plainsmenpost.com/leaked-document-says-roman-abramovich-was-of-interest-to-uk-over-links-to-russian-state/
17:05 TR Bot; Leaked document says Roman Abramovich was of interest to UK over links to Russian state Plainsmen Post
17:06 TR News; 10 Years Later, Heres Why the Raspberry Pi Still Rocks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:06 TR Bot; 10 Years Later, Heres Why the Raspberry Pi Still Rocks | Tux Machines
17:07 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: dig a whole into the ground, come out from other side
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17:07 schestowitz-TR; but I think from st. petersburg the other side of the pacific ocean
17:07 schestowitz-TR; *is the
17:08 bnchs; what if flat earth theory applies
17:08 schestowitz-TR; where many nuclear "tests" were conducted
17:08 bnchs; you dig a hole, and you fall to space
17:08 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: then it's a lot of digging
17:08 schestowitz-TR; some flat earth says hell is beneath, not space
17:09 schestowitz-TR; if hell is benath the earth
17:09 schestowitz-TR; than what is beneath hell?
17:09 schestowitz-TR; HINH
17:09 schestowitz-TR; Hell is Not Hell
17:09 schestowitz-TR; HINH is Not Hell
17:10 XRevan86; Beneath Hell there is Russia
17:10 TR News; Hey, it's not like #journalism for the Establishment has a future. If you don't do #propaganda you get sacked https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/well/live/jane-brody-personal-health-retires.html
17:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/well/live/jane-brody-personal-health-retires.html
17:10 TR Bot; Jane Brody, Trailblazing Service Journalist, Retires From The Times - The New York Times
17:10 XRevan86; -.
17:11 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: sounds circular
17:11 schestowitz-TR; like.. earth
17:11 schestowitz-TR; hello below russia
17:11 schestowitz-TR; and russia below hell
17:12 TR News; Operators, not pilots. #drones have no pilots, by definition. https://www.timeswv.com/news/local_news/regional-drone-pilot-competition-fills-falcon-center-gyms/article_8eb697d2-9694-11ec-9de2-ff604a28a8d1.html
17:12 TR Bot; drone pilot competition fills Falcon Center gyms | Local News | timeswv.com
17:13 schestowitz; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/business/dealbook/russia-ukraine-sanctions-energy.html
17:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/business/dealbook/russia-ukraine-sanctions-energy.html
17:13 TR Bot; Sanctions on Russia Over Ukraine Have Some Big Holes - The New York Times
17:13 schestowitz; I cannot fact-check
17:13 schestowitz; so much noise
17:13 schestowitz; that you no longer know what to believe
17:13 schestowitz; rianne is being misled by "DW"and other "good" gulagtube channels
17:13 schestowitz; they even recommended "the SUN"!
17:14 schestowitz; and then fabricate BS
17:14 schestowitz; clickbait
17:14 XRevan86; schestowitz: This article is from yesterday, it's already outdated.
17:16 activelow; i don't believe in this spectacle
17:17 TR News; Capitalism 2008-2011: blame the greedy poor! They took too much debt (while the billionaire grifters, the lenders, did not pay tax; they took bonuses). Capitalism 2011-2019: so what if salaries stayed the same while inflation grew? Capitalism 2020-2022: be glad you're live. "Nature" (coronavirus) strikes. Capitalism 2022-end: be glad you're live. Russia strikes.
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17:19 TR News; #ukraine learns that there's no such thing as "the international community"; there's just #putin or #trump doing their own thing, everyone else is mostly a spectator. Community... like football fans on their pews.
17:20 TR News; There's also no such thing as "the Linux community" because due to a decade (plus) of vicious attacks by the #linuxfoundation that brand no longer means what you thought it had meant http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/
17:20 TR Bot; Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights
17:20 TR News; Jim Zemlin: #ukraine loves #russia http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/
17:20 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights
17:23 TR News; "Ireland is still clean and green." Oh really? #greenwashing https://tacomaweekly.com/ireland-clean-greener-and-reopening-p2709-197.htm
17:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: tacomaweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tacomaweekly.com/ireland-clean-greener-and-reopening-p2709-197.htm
17:23 TR Bot; Ireland: Clean, Greener and Reopening
17:25 TR News; Don't do this! This is #surveillance disguised as "advancement" (it could be done 40 years ago, feasibly and cheaply) https://thepaypers.com/thought-leader-insights/android-in-payments-why-the-coolest-innovations-happen-first-in-the-smallest-retailers--1254699 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/
17:25 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thepaypers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thepaypers.com/thought-leader-insights/android-in-payments-why-the-coolest-innovations-happen-first-in-the-smallest-retailers--1254699
17:25 TR Bot; in payments: Why the coolest innovations happen first in the smallest retailers - ThePaypers
17:25 TR Bot; Self-Service is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights
17:26 TR News; #CarlIcahn has not been arrested yet? Why are those corrupt vandals allowed to even openly roam Wall Street? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/business/dealbook/mcdonalds-pork-carl-icahn.html
17:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/business/dealbook/mcdonalds-pork-carl-icahn.html
17:26 TR Bot; Carl Icahn Pushes McDonalds to Change Way It Sources Its Pork - The New York Times
17:27 TR News; This is a #Microsoft #Windows issue, not a development issue https://www.csoonline.com/article/3649798/why-devops-pipelines-are-under-attack-and-how-to-fight-back.html
17:27 TR Bot; Why DevOps pipelines are under attack and how to fight back | CSO Online
17:28 bnchs; lol payment via phone
17:28 TR News; But being #proprietarySoftware it cannot be trusted https://www.crainsnewyork.com/technology/nyc-based-startup-beyond-identity-hopes-make-passwords-thing-past
17:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: crainsnewyork.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.crainsnewyork.com/technology/nyc-based-startup-beyond-identity-hopes-make-passwords-thing-past
17:29 TR Bot; NYC-based startup Beyond Identity hopes to make passwords a thing of the past | Crain's New York Business
17:29 bnchs; thats dumb
17:29 schestowitz-TR; i saw one doing it yesterday
17:30 schestowitz-TR; it's not even saving time
17:30 schestowitz-TR; and they give away their id
17:30 schestowitz-TR; not just to the shop
17:30 schestowitz-TR; but the leeches attached to the "phone
17:32 bnchs; NFC sniffing
17:32 XRevan86; "IRC source" https://znak.com/2022-02-26/tnt_perestalo_rabotat_s_prodyuserami_holostyaka_i_orla_i_reshki_iz_za_postov_pro_ukrainu <https://www.znak.com/2022-02-26/tnt_perestalo_rabotat_s_prodyuserami_holostyaka_i_orla_i_reshki_iz_za_postov_pro_ukrainu>
17:32 TR Bot; -
17:33 schestowitz; yes, I knew it would be non-English
17:33 schestowitz; at least the translation was from a Russian who is not a Putler
17:33 bnchs; i like how the ads in that site manage to cause a rendering bug in my browser
17:33 schestowitz; the two things are rare or suppressed
17:33 XRevan86; schestowitz: :)
17:34 schestowitz; as Putler does not want any non-Putlers in Russia to speak out
17:34 schestowitz; today he arrested some more
17:34 schestowitz; to scare the rest
17:34 bnchs; they have these smart NFC doors
17:34 schestowitz; bnchs: web is bokrn
17:34 schestowitz; if it's not broken
17:34 schestowitz; it's because you do it wrong
17:34 schestowitz; 1) use chrome (malware)
17:34 schestowitz; 2) allow all scripts
17:35 schestowitz; 3) trust spying parties
17:35 schestowitz; and even then you may need lots of processing power
17:35 schestowitz; (aka "buy a new computer")
17:35 XRevan86; schestowitz: Can ye believe the Constitution of the Russian Federation guarantees Freedom of Conscience?
17:35 schestowitz; Putin doesn't care
17:35 schestowitz; we're living in dark times in Europe also
17:35 schestowitz; see EPC and EPO
17:36 schestowitz; they know they violate Conventions and Constitutions
17:36 schestowitz; and they just don't care
17:36 bnchs; schestowitz: you need big PC to handle 2 tons of ads
17:36 schestowitz; politicians do not seem to care, either
17:36 schestowitz; the whole point of having these is for the public to call out the government when it goes rogue
17:36 schestowitz; bnchs: yes, use gemini
17:36 schestowitz; we are developing some rss stuff for gemini
17:37 schestowitz; and we'll soon link more to gemini URIs
17:37 schestowitz; less WWW
17:37 bnchs; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_IIDq5IS6I0
17:37 TR Bot; NFC Unlock Doors W/Smartphone - Invidious
17:37 bnchs; you dont need to steal keys now
17:38 bnchs; you can just use your phone to copy the NFC key
17:38 TR News; By making it digital or "online" you make it LESS inclusive https://www.ft.lk/front-page/Ground-breaking-initiative-to-make-IT-education-inclusive/44-731054
17:38 TR Bot; Ground-breaking initiative to make IT education inclusive | Daily FT
17:39 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: yes, lots of bogus security
17:39 schestowitz-TR; and cargo cults to promote them
17:39 schestowitz-TR; like expensive yubiukeys and stuff
17:39 bnchs; yes its so secure
17:39 schestowitz-TR; more about posing and showoiff
17:39 schestowitz-TR; gadgets instead of science
17:39 bnchs; in the fact that now they dont need to forge a key themselves or lockpick
17:39 bnchs; they can copy your key when you're unaware
17:40 schestowitz-TR; worse yet
17:40 schestowitz-TR; at airport they copy all your "phones" stuff
17:40 schestowitz-TR; inc. passwords
17:40 schestowitz-TR; but it's OK
17:40 psydroid2; I was just told there are 18 km of queues along the Ukrainian-Romanian border
17:40 schestowitz-TR; they are a government
17:40 bnchs; really?
17:40 schestowitz-TR; it's not like the government ever employs criminals and perverts
17:40 bnchs; they copy everything from your phone?
17:41 schestowitz-TR; yes
17:41 schestowitz-TR; I saw it for real in germany
17:41 bnchs; including your hidden stash of porn
17:41 schestowitz-TR; turks
17:41 schestowitz-TR; in frankfurt airport
17:41 schestowitz-TR; they have tools for scanning devices fast
17:41 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: only idiots put pr0n on a mobile device
17:41 psydroid2; laptops with unencrypted drives too?
17:42 bnchs; yes
17:42 bnchs; you have to AES-256 encrypt your tar.gz of porn
17:42 TR News; #ksa #sportwashing #crimesAgainstHumanity #whitewashing #reputationLaundering https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/sports/golf/mickelson-saudi-league-pga.html
17:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/sports/golf/mickelson-saudi-league-pga.html
17:42 TR Bot; Phil Mickelson Apologizes for Support of Saudi-Backed Golf League - The New York Times
17:42 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: don't take them through borders
17:42 bnchs; and then XOR encrypt it with a key you know
17:42 schestowitz-TR; or only without batteries
17:42 schestowitz-TR; they made new rules though
17:42 schestowitz-TR; they obstruct you broading the plane
17:43 schestowitz-TR; if the devices you bring don't have "enough" battery
17:43 schestowitz-TR; this was like 5 years ago
17:43 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, or just make fake installs and redo them in your destination country
17:43 schestowitz-TR; or use ssh to your home
17:43 schestowitz-TR; which is what I do
17:43 psydroid2; yes
17:44 bnchs; schestowitz-TR: you gotta need this amount of battery to board on plane --->
17:44 TR News; When the "news" is "Hey Hi"-generated #webspam and the headlines might be autogenerated https://voonze.com/microsoft-shoots-with-a-bullet-in-the-trial-against-apple/
17:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: voonze.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://voonze.com/microsoft-shoots-with-a-bullet-in-the-trial-against-apple/
17:44 TR Bot; Microsoft "shoots with a bullet" in the trial against Apple - How smart Technology changing lives
17:45 bnchs; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M0Z-kYL5CEU
17:45 TR Bot; How to Copy an Apartment RFID Card? -RFID Card Duplicator - Invidious
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17:45 bnchs; you can only copy rfid keys into a plastic writable rfid key
17:45 bnchs; and use them as keycards
17:45 bnchs; this is definitely secure
17:46 *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@jheubvg38rqfy.irc) has joined #techrights
17:46 TR News; The #openwashing of RAN https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/onf-releases-sd-ran-into-open-source sometimes by "releases SD-RAN into open source" they mean "sends to #microsoft #PROPRIETARYSOFTWARE #github ..."
17:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mobileworldlive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/onf-releases-sd-ran-into-open-source
17:46 TR Bot; ONF releases SD-RAN into open source - Mobile World Live
17:46 bnchs; this only works on 125khz
17:47 TR News; It is NOT free, it is PREPAID https://island.lk/sri-lankans-now-have-access-to-free-financial-education/
17:47 TR Bot; Sri Lankans now have access to free financial education The Island
17:48 TR News; "Wolters Kluwer, a global leader in professional information, software solutions, and services, today releases its full-year 2021 results." It's not "leader in professional information", it has been a #propaganda machine for #teamUPC , for instance, openly #LOBBYING for ILLEGAL things https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/02/23/2390001/0/en/Wolters-Kluwer-2021-Full-Year-Report.html
17:48 TR Bot; Wolters Kluwer 2021 Full-Year Report
17:49 TR News; Amendments to Provisions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act https://www.natlawreview.com/article/2022-ip-outlook-report-developments-shaping-copyright-law #natlawreview #dmca
17:49 TR Bot; Amendments to Provisions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
17:50 TR News; The Steve who actually did things for #apple (not merely ego-tripping) https://www.courierpress.com/story/news/2022/02/22/steve-wozniak-apple-co-founder-coming-usi-evansville-university-southern-indiana/6898196001/
17:50 TR Bot; Steve Wozniak, apple co-founder coming to USI
17:52 TR News; " #TriggerMesh sponsored this post." So #thenewstack takes #bribes to promote #fiction https://thenewstack.io/is-serverless-just-a-stopover-for-event-driven-architecture/ #Serverless = 100% BS. http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted.../
17:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/is-serverless-just-a-stopover-for-event-driven-architecture/
17:52 TR Bot; Is Serverless Just a Stopover for Event-Driven Architecture? The New Stack
17:52 TR Bot; Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights
17:52 bnchs; did they pay microsoft for that hololens again
17:53 TR News; #melindagates is bribing still... just like she did with her #famouscriminal husband #billgates https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ada-developers-academy-brings-their-life-changing-tech-education-program-to-atlanta-georgia-after-melinda-french-gates-donation-301486442.html also see http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/crisis-text-line/ and http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/
17:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ada-developers-academy-brings-their-life-changing-tech-education-program-to-atlanta-georgia-after-melinda-french-gates-donation-301486442.html
17:53 TR Bot; Ada Developers Academy Brings Their Life-changing Tech Education Program to Atlanta, Georgia after Melinda French Gates Donation
17:53 TR Bot; Crisis Text Line, a Charity Backed by Melinda Gates and Steve Ballmer, Collects Data From Suicidal People, Then Sells it to Advertisers and Other Third Parties | Techrights
17:53 TR Bot; Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | Techrights
17:54 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.57
17:55 TR News; 2020: Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic Stash of #BillGates Engineer Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ #Techrights #police #foia | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/
17:55 TR Bot; Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic Stash of Bill Gates Engineer | Techrights
17:55 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: again and again
17:55 schestowitz-TR; bail out microsoft
17:55 schestowitz-TR; we must
17:55 schestowitz-TR; tio beat the russian
17:55 schestowitz-TR; pentagon budget, here you go
17:55 bnchs; i love paying microsoft with taxes
17:56 schestowitz-TR; you do
17:56 schestowitz-TR; you must
17:56 schestowitz-TR; throiugh your government
17:56 schestowitz-TR; the king pays them
17:56 schestowitz-TR; to build flaky stuff like web sites
17:56 schestowitz-TR; and you pay with your labour
17:56 psydroid2; I love bailing out microsoft
17:57 schestowitz-TR; maybe berlusconi and epstein+gates will come and visit
17:57 schestowitz-TR; and pick some girls on the way
17:57 schestowitz-TR; "hitch"
17:57 psydroid2; bailing out on life as a company by sending them to the afterlife (a.k.a. bankruptcy)
17:57 schestowitz-TR; that's US capitalism
17:57 schestowitz-TR; they have a name for it
17:58 schestowitz-TR; in the context of banks
17:58 schestowitz-TR; "too big to fail"
17:58 schestowitz-TR; "and tool big to jail
17:58 schestowitz-TR; "
17:58 schestowitz-TR; they never arrest Microsoft managers for their crimes
17:58 schestowitz-TR; the executives know it
17:58 schestowitz-TR; like Trump knows it
17:58 psydroid2; this company and its products have zero usefulness
17:58 schestowitz-TR; it's the place where you can get arrested for exposing high-level criminals
17:58 psydroid2; "products"
17:58 schestowitz-TR; they themselves will hire well-connected law firms to fix the outcome
17:59 TR News; More plots for #surveillance it seems https://www.pr.com/press-release/855639 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/crisis-text-line/
17:59 TR Bot; Foundation Trust Introduces JCFTMate, a Friendly AI Chatbot to Help Combat Social Isolation and Loneliness - PR.com
17:59 TR Bot; Crisis Text Line, a Charity Backed by Melinda Gates and Steve Ballmer, Collects Data From Suicidal People, Then Sells it to Advertisers and Other Third Parties | Techrights
18:00 TR News; False because those fake coins do not actually offer #privacy and it is not at all their feature https://gazette.com/news/canadian-crackdown-on-truckers-highlights-privacy-benefits-of-cryptocurrency/article_41c4c7b2-0f4e-5c43-b144-64a40999db38.html
18:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gazette.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gazette.com/news/canadian-crackdown-on-truckers-highlights-privacy-benefits-of-cryptocurrency/article_41c4c7b2-0f4e-5c43-b144-64a40999db38.html
18:00 TR Bot; crackdown on truckers highlights privacy benefits of cryptocurrency | News | gazette.com
18:01 bnchs; yes our websites include images with improperly downscaled aspect ratios
18:01 TR News; The only anonymous coin is an actual coin, a physical coin
18:01 bnchs; 16:9 to 1:1
18:02 TR News; Unlike the racist #linuxfoundation they've given them REAL money https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220224006016/en/Voya-announces-recipients-of-new-Black-owned-small-business-grants see http://techrights.org/2021/01/22/linux-foundation-pr/
18:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220224006016/en/Voya-announces-recipients-of-new-Black-owned-small-business-grants
18:02 TR Bot; Voya announces recipients of new Black-owned small business grants | Business Wire
18:02 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation is Trying to Obscure Racism Using Microsoft-Inspired Tactics (Vouchers Disguised as Actual Money) | Techrights
18:03 bnchs; i find early 2000's websites more appeasing to the eyes than our government websites
18:04 schestowitz-TR; true
18:04 schestowitz-TR; and you had more control overpresentation
18:04 schestowitz-TR; it's getting harder due to side complexity
18:04 schestowitz-TR; change font size or zoom
18:05 schestowitz-TR; and the whole structure breaks down
18:05 schestowitz-TR; things vanishing
18:05 schestowitz-TR; gemini is simple and strict
18:05 schestowitz-TR; you could display them in so many ways
18:05 schestowitz-TR; in our relay/gateway/proxy we chose a presentation style similar to the main site
18:05 schestowitz-TR; but without any peripheral files
18:06 schestowitz-TR; just one html file with some css in it
18:07 TR News; CHIPS Alliance Forms #F4PGA Workgroup to Accelerate Adoption of Open Source #FPGA Tooling https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chips-alliance-forms-f4pga-workgroup-to-accelerate-adoption-of-open-source-fpga-tooling-301489053.html
18:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chips-alliance-forms-f4pga-workgroup-to-accelerate-adoption-of-open-source-fpga-tooling-301489053.html
18:07 TR Bot; CHIPS Alliance Forms F4PGA Workgroup to Accelerate Adoption of Open Source FPGA Tooling
18:10 TR News; Samsung version inflation has gone out of control. 10 years ago it was S2. https://www.engadget.com/samsung-galaxy-s-22-review-sprucing-up-a-solid-foundation-151522033.html
18:10 TR Bot; Galaxy S22 review: Sprucing up a solid foundation | Engadget
18:10 bnchs; gulagtube's joke: age restricted videos are sometimes considered for kids
18:11 bnchs; COPPA
18:11 TR News; Rare Retrial Begins in Killing of American in Greece - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/bakari-henderson-killing-greece-retrial.html #nytimes
18:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/bakari-henderson-killing-greece-retrial.html
18:11 TR Bot; Rare Retrial Begins in Killing of American in Greece - The New York Times
18:11 bnchs; COPPA is a good law but gulagtube poorly implemented it intentionally
18:12 TR News; #surveillance worse than any #taxi service in existence https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/24/motional-and-via-launch-free-autonomous-ride-hail-service-in-las-vegas/
18:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/24/motional-and-via-launch-free-autonomous-ride-hail-service-in-las-vegas/
18:12 TR Bot; and Via launch free autonomous ride-hail service in Las Vegas TechCrunch
18:13 TR News; "On 24 February 2022, the Chancellor Rishi Sunak gave the annual #Mais lecture at Bayes Business School." https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/chancellor-rishi-sunaks-mais-lecture-2022
18:13 TR Bot; Rishi Sunak's Mais Lecture 2022 - GOV.UK
18:15 TR News; #listeningDevices with tracking and deeper #surveillance and rapidly getting more sophisticated. Should we celebrate these? https://www.engadget.com/samsung-galaxy-s-22-review-sprucing-up-a-solid-foundation-151522033.html
18:15 TR News; Imagine this was posted in the news section the same day #russia invaded #ukraine https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/style/social-qs.html
18:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/style/social-qs.html
18:15 TR Bot; Why Wont My Boyfriend Shut Up About How Much He Loves His Ex? - The New York Times
18:21 TR News; 17 Best Games to Play on Your Chromebook in 2022 https://www.maketecheasier.com/awesome-games-chromebook/ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
18:21 TR Bot; 17 Best Games to Play on Your Chromebook in 2022 - Make Tech Easier
18:21 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
18:22 TR News; Russian State Media Banned from Running Ads or Monetizing on Facebook https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/russian-state-media-banned-from-running-ads-or-monetizing-on-facebook #facebook would not do the same if it was US invading #iraq ... because #zuckerberg is a remorseless political animals
18:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxandubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/russian-state-media-banned-from-running-ads-or-monetizing-on-facebook
18:22 TR Bot; Russian State Media Banned from Running Ads or Monetizing on Facebook
18:23 TR News; Wine 7.3 is out, more Joystick fixes and PE conversion http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161863#comment-32914
18:23 TR Bot; The Wine development release 7.3 is now available. | Tux Machines
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18:31 TR News; Albion Online getting #gamepad support for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/albion-online-getting-gamepad-support-for-steam-deck/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
18:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/albion-online-getting-gamepad-support-for-steam-deck/
18:31 TR Bot; Online getting gamepad support for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
18:32 TR News; "There are 2155 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1760 of them." Still growing fast. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
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18:47 TR News; #Games: Steam Deck, Chromebooks, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161883 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
18:47 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Chromebooks, and More | Tux Machines
18:48 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-48.jpg
18:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-48.jpg
18:55 TR News; Why has #thunderbird started opening PDF inside Thunderbird itself? I don't want an #email client that's a chameleon pretending to be everything and this isn't even secure
18:56 bnchs___; unix philo be like that
18:56 bnchs___; a mail client thats also PDF reader
18:58 schestowitz-TR; it is quite contrary to unix philosophy
18:58 bnchs___; yes
18:58 bnchs___; thunderbird doesn't follow the unix philosophy
18:59 bnchs___; that's old shit
18:59 schestowitz-TR; nescape did not either
18:59 schestowitz-TR; they combined the browser with email
18:59 schestowitz-TR; kirtall does both http(s) very basic and gemini
18:59 schestowitz-TR; among other protocols
18:59 schestowitz-TR; but there are overlaps
18:59 schestowitz-TR; pdf and email or email/client are very different
18:59 bnchs___; it doesn't matter how many protocols you support
19:00 schestowitz-TR; what next? Document editor in the email client?
19:00 bnchs___; it matters how many jobs you do
19:00 schestowitz-TR; spreadeheets too?
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19:04 bnchs___; i like how they congratulate epic games for having half of upcoming games reliant on it's engine
19:04 schestowitz-TR; proprietary
19:04 schestowitz-TR; then again, the games usually are
19:04 schestowitz-TR; if the engines are at least copyleft, it is progress
19:04 bnchs___; the engine is source-available
19:04 bnchs___; for unreal engine users
19:05 bnchs___; licensed under a EULA
19:05 schestowitz-TR; proprietary
19:05 bnchs___; yes
19:05 schestowitz-TR; source available is proprietary
19:05 schestowitz-TR; they have other names for that
19:05 schestowitz-TR; all sorts of waffle
19:05 bnchs___; they have fees in the EULA
19:05 bnchs___; and GPL blacklist
19:08 TR News; #gulag now blocking #falkon which is based on #chromium to some extent. #monopoly #gulagIsEvil
19:15 TR News; Today #gulag thinks that logging in is suspicious if done from "Linux device." (Their words) "Security alert" (email subject line) sent to me.
19:17 MinceR; they also seem to be blocking qutebrowser
19:18 bnchs___; yes
19:18 bnchs___; they block anything that's not chrome
19:18 bnchs___; and windwos
19:18 schestowitz-TR; bad...
19:18 schestowitz-TR; and sad..
19:18 schestowitz-TR; I could show screenshots
19:18 schestowitz-TR; but this is not my account
19:19 schestowitz-TR; it's a work around
19:19 schestowitz-TR; I'd not touch gulkag
19:19 schestowitz-TR; it's London Town Hall
19:19 schestowitz-TR; *work account
19:19 schestowitz-TR; not work around
19:19 schestowitz-TR; so I don't want to write an article about this
19:22 psydroid2; steve windwozniak
19:24 schestowitz-TR; does he promote windows?
19:24 schestowitz-TR; I did not see that
19:24 psydroid2; he doesn't
19:24 psydroid2; the full name is steve windwozniak ballmer jobs
19:30 TR News; British PL is two-faced BS now. First, they let the blood brother of Putin OWN a large football club. Same for terrorist MbS (NUFC). Second, they say NO POLITICS and FINE Pep over Catalan yellow ribbon, then do the kneeling. And now they say "NO POLITICS" but this whole game was #ukraine activism (watch) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
19:30 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
19:30 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Everton vs Manchester City 0-1 Extended Highlights & All Goals 2021 HD - Invidious
19:31 TR News; British PL: NO POLITICS!! Except when the powers that be AGREE with your #politics
19:34 TR News; British/English PL: we fine Pep for wearing a tiny tiny ribbon without saying a thing of sympathy for his home country/religion. Also British/English PL: We ENCOURAGE a whole team to wear #ukraine shirts. At least be consistent, OK? And don't tell me it's about justice and humanity when Abra and MbS own prestigious football clubs (Chelsea and NUFC).
19:35 psydroid2; Visca Catalunya! ! Pep, don't accept this crap!
19:36 TR News; British/English PL: We ask all players to kneel as a statement against #racism and we're also OK with a vicious, intolerant, bloodthirsty, religious fanatic who beheads people for "apostasy"... own one of the largest (historically) football clubs. Be consistent, will you?
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19:53 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22022437
19:53 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/a00ihryvx6j81.jpg created on 2022-02-24 14:54:02.394448
19:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 38.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.57
20:16 TR News; Proprietary and #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:16 TR Bot; Proprietary and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:16 TR News; Best #FreeSW Alternatives to Intuit Quickbooks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:16 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Intuit Quickbooks | Tux Machines
20:16 TR News; #Standards and #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:16 TR Bot; Standards and UNIX | Tux Machines
20:17 TR News; 4 Best Free and Open Source Sound Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:17 TR Bot; 4 Best Free and Open Source Sound Systems | Tux Machines
20:17 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:17 bnchs___; mobile developers make more money not for making games
20:17 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:17 bnchs___; but by tricking people into paying money
20:18 TR News; #FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161889 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeSW
20:18 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:18 TR News; 12 Simple Tools to Protect Your Privacy Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161890 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:18 TR Bot; 12 Simple Tools to Protect Your Privacy | Tux Machines
20:18 bnchs___; they have a system where they can detect if the player is drunk, and they push out ads
20:19 TR News; 9 Top Free and Open Source C++ Web Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:19 TR Bot; 9 Top Free and Open Source C++ Web Frameworks | Tux Machines
20:24 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-21.jpg
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20:24 TR News; I hope @itsfoss understands that #duckduckgo is just fronting for #microsoft + #nsa (1) and #startpage is owned by #spying company (2) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161891 see [1] http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo and [2] http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage
20:24 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
20:24 TR Bot; Startpage - Techrights
20:32 TR News; Links 26/2/2022: Wine 7.3 and Some Linux #Gadget Reviews Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/wine-7-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/26/wine-7-3/
20:32 TR Bot; Links 26/2/2022: Wine 7.3 and Some Linux Gadget Reviews | Techrights
20:33 schestowitz; [20:18] <bnchs___> they have a system where they can detect if the player is drunk, and they push out ads
20:33 schestowitz; those can be falsely advertised
20:33 schestowitz; and many shits like shit (pronounced""shite" for Slack) spy on key presses and mouse movements
20:33 schestowitz; but
20:33 schestowitz; how would they know if you just work while standing
20:34 schestowitz; or reaching out to s distance laptop?
20:34 schestowitz; they cannot distinguish
20:34 schestowitz; they make false claims
20:34 schestowitz; like, "this is what a drunk person would do"
20:34 schestowitz; it's like "plgiarism" detectors
20:34 schestowitz; or polygraphs
20:34 schestowitz; pure BS
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20:50 bnchs___; it's not an accurate detection
20:50 bnchs___; and it actually based on if the person cannot think straight
20:50 bnchs___; or mentally impaired at the moment
20:50 bnchs___; they'll push out ads more often at that sate
20:50 DaemonFC; Youtube and Facebook have blocked RT from monetizing anything.
20:51 DaemonFC; Stallman/Stalin would be most displeased I take it.
20:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ZDNet actually posted a Linux article that wasn't shit, but it wasn't that useful except to highlight some LKML stuff.
20:51 bnchs___; but it's accurate enough
20:52 bnchs___; mobile game developers have a "money extraction" department
20:52 DaemonFC; Apparently, switching to C11 will unfuck a bunch of things that have been the source of some bugs.
20:52 bnchs___; very little whistleblow about this
20:52 DaemonFC; It does logically follow that the move to C11 would happen after untangling that headers mess with the 2,000+ patch series.
20:53 bnchs___; iirc it can tell if you're gonna be drunk by looking at your purchases
20:53 bnchs___; recent purchases of alcohol
20:53 bnchs___; btw this is info from a unknown whistleblower who designed this system
21:03 TR News; all money is fake gemini://november.smol.pub/money "Gold was "real money" when we used it, because we all agreed that it was."
21:04 bnchs___; yes
21:04 bnchs___; money is simply paper
21:04 bnchs___; or a integer value on a banking system
21:04 bnchs___; floating
21:06 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGgGmW3bWvI
21:06 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qGgGmW3bWvI
21:06 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Is Putin Controlling Britain's Sex Toys? Russell Howard Investigates - Invidious
21:06 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161892 #Linux #TuxMachines
21:06 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:10 XRevan86; MinceR: Legitimisation of Internet of Shit, just a bit.
21:11 MinceR; i don't get it
21:11 XRevan86; MinceR: So what that someone can hack into a sextoy? What's the worst that can happen?
21:11 MinceR; ic
21:12 XRevan86; Is a sextoy botnet used for DDoS the worst that can happen?
21:13 schestowitz-TR; is that what vlad calls tanks?
21:14 MinceR; lol
21:15 XRevan86; schestowitz: Maybe the inflatable ones.
21:15 DaemonFC; The tanks the Russians have been sending over are good at a couple of things.
21:15 DaemonFC; Running out of diesel fuel and making a very satisfying sound when they blow up.
21:16 MinceR; lol
21:16 DaemonFC; Putin is basically using a barely-trained slave army for his invasion force.
21:16 DaemonFC; Most of them have little or no idea what they're doing.
21:16 MinceR; slaves are all he has at home
21:16 MinceR; he also has some fuckbuddies and cultists abroad
21:17 MinceR; hungarian language irc channels are swarming with his cultists
21:17 MinceR; it's depressing
21:17 MinceR; humans are an incredibly stupid animal, even if we discount the propaganda they say about themselves
21:18 DaemonFC; Mostly their gains have been in territory not worth defending and not defensible.
21:18 DaemonFC; It wouldn't really be logical to engage the Russians out in the open countryside when you can force them into a kill box.
21:18 MinceR; it's not logical to engage the russians at all
21:18 MinceR; they have thermonuclear ICBMs
21:18 DaemonFC; The largest city I've heard that they've captured so far is no bigger than Waukegan, Illinois.
21:18 MinceR; so the only logical thing is to glass them in one strike so that they can't respond
21:19 XRevan86; MinceR: I thought ye'd say Meatwagons
21:19 DaemonFC; And even at that, I've also heard that the locals are still fighting them.
21:19 DaemonFC; Putin has bungled this.
21:19 MinceR; and it would be best to do the same to red china and north korea at the same time so they can't do anything about it either
21:19 DaemonFC; I don't really think the Russians want to fight that much.
21:20 MinceR; well, they should have thought about that before they invaded ukraine
21:20 DaemonFC; They've been staying about 20 miles from Kyiv and the cowards are just occasionally shelling it or firing missiles at kindergarten children.
21:20 XRevan86; Good thing I wasn't conscripted, MinceR would've argued about my thought process as well.
21:20 DaemonFC; They're too yellow to pick on someone their own size.
21:21 DaemonFC; They attack old women and 5 year olds.
21:21 bnchs___; gold is a good currency
21:21 bnchs___; since you can also get it from mining
21:21 MinceR; one would think ukraine isn't their own size
21:24 TR News; Links to #Microsoft boosters' sites, as usual, are perpetuating false claims about Linux http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
21:24 TR Bot; CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
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21:25 mynameisnobody; Hi
21:25 SomeH4x0r; hi
21:26 CrystalMath; MinceR: Orbn put sanctions against russia
21:26 schestowitz-TR; hi
21:26 MinceR; oh, wow
21:26 MinceR; the sanctions!
21:26 MinceR; i'm sure putler is quaking in his boots
21:26 MinceR; the NATO and the EU have gone from sternly worded warnings to... sanctions!
21:26 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: I showed you 2 links this morning
21:26 schestowitz-TR; about refugees
21:26 schestowitz-TR; is that accurate?
21:26 CrystalMath; MinceR: that doesn't tell me he's pro-Putin
21:26 MinceR; dunno
21:27 MinceR; CrystalMath: he's trying to be both pro-NATO and pro-putler
21:27 MinceR; which is an untenable position, so he's hoping that things de-escalate soon
21:27 schestowitz-TR; hungary third
21:27 MinceR; but things won't de-escalate soon
21:27 schestowitz-TR; trump and putin shared a first
21:27 schestowitz-TR; with biden (so-called 'liberal'') one can imagine who orban demoted
21:28 psydroid2; latest decree: no more bananas are to be exported to Russia to sustain the banana republic
21:28 MinceR; and with his affair with putler he compromised hungary's relationship with the NATO, which may well mean that putler will be able to annex hungary without retaliation
21:28 schestowitz-TR; true
21:28 schestowitz-TR; or moldova
21:28 CrystalMath; MinceR: no, attacking a NATO country would be WW3
21:28 schestowitz-TR; someone told me moldova, then romania
21:28 CrystalMath; and russia does not want that
21:28 MinceR; former president Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus was just a proxy for putler anyway
21:28 CrystalMath; nobody wants that
21:28 schestowitz-TR; opr lithuania and finland
21:28 CrystalMath; schestowitz-TR: that's crazy
21:28 CrystalMath; but then again, i was wrong last time
21:29 MinceR; CrystalMath: what if said NATO country is known to be a spy for 12 years and spent those years attempting to undermine the NATO?
21:29 schestowitz-TR; he already has belarus
21:29 MinceR; what if said NATO country isn't really important to any of the other NATO members?
21:29 schestowitz-TR; he just wants puppet regime
21:29 MinceR; what if said NATO country is allied with the enemy and everyone knows this?
21:29 CrystalMath; belarus is the most free country in europe
21:29 MinceR; lol
21:30 CrystalMath; no mask mandates, no vaccine mandates
21:30 MinceR; do you have more jokes like that?
21:30 CrystalMath; if i was there, i would be 5% freer
21:30 schestowitz-TR; after romania putin can recapture the balkan, CrystalMath
21:30 schestowitz-TR; one hop away
21:30 CrystalMath; schestowitz-TR: if Putin comes here, it would be very unexpected to me, but i'll greet his people with flowers
21:30 MinceR; just don't insult lukashenka or you'll abduct you while you're on a plane trip and torture you until you become a public lukashenka supporter
21:30 MinceR; you know, freedom
21:30 schestowitz-TR; [21:30] <CrystalMath> schestowitz-TR: if Putin comes here, it would be very unexpected to me, but i'll greet his people with flowers
21:30 schestowitz-TR; they will greet you with tanks
21:30 MinceR; s/you'/he'/
21:30 MinceR; they will greet you with rape
21:31 schestowitz-TR; going atop cars
21:31 CrystalMath; support for putin here is huge
21:31 CrystalMath; there is nobody to fight back against a russian invasion
21:31 CrystalMath; the vast majority is pro-russian
21:31 psydroid2; tanks rape cars
21:31 CrystalMath; and think our government isn't pro-russian enough
21:31 CrystalMath; so no need to run over anyone
21:31 CrystalMath; i heard people singing the russian anthem earlier
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21:32 schestowitz-TR; "he's coming to pick us up"
21:32 schestowitz-TR; CrystalMath: go buy lengerie
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21:32 schestowitz-TR; *lingerie
21:32 MinceR; slavery is so "hip" and "cool"
21:33 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure Russia wants what's best for the Serbs
21:33 MinceR; oh, and "libertarian"
21:33 MinceR; schestowitz-TR: and the serbs will give it to him, too!
21:33 psydroid2; they are proud of Russians for importing South Slavic words and names such as Vladimir
21:33 bnchs___; did they make the russian sancations again
21:33 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> or moldova
21:33 bnchs___; can't wait for github to ban russia
21:33 DaemonFC; Moldova would be a relatively easy and safer next phase.
21:33 MinceR; lol
21:33 MinceR; does putler even know what shithub is?
21:34 schestowitz-TR; bnchs___: github only bans arabs
21:34 psydroid2; rushub
21:34 schestowitz-TR; it's usland
21:34 DaemonFC; They could knock that out pretty quickly and it's still not EU or NATO.
21:34 psydroid2; what is github?
21:34 DaemonFC; So thoughts and prayers.
21:34 bnchs___; i use github via tor anyway
21:34 MinceR; we're beyond thoughts and prayers
21:34 psydroid2; some cheap knockoff of the real thing from Russia
21:34 MinceR; such justly feared and highly effective weapons were already deployed as 1) condemnations and 2) sanctions!
21:35 schestowitz-TR; and football
21:35 schestowitz-TR; with shirts on
21:35 schestowitz-TR; [19:30] <techrights-news> British PL is two-faced BS now. First, they let the blood brother of Putin OWN a large football club. Same for terrorist MbS (NUFC). Second, they say NO POLITICS and FINE Pep over Catalan yellow ribbon, then do the kneeling. And now they say "NO POLITICS" but this whole game was #ukraine activism (watch) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
21:35 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
21:35 TR Bot; ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0 )
21:35 MinceR; multiple leaders have said that europe won't sell to russia technology that they're buying from red china to begin with.
21:35 MinceR; much of which i suspect they don't even produce in europe.
21:36 schestowitz-TR; they produce PAREBTS
21:36 schestowitz-TR; PATENTS
21:36 schestowitz-TR; they said
21:36 schestowitz-TR; on the 18th of Feb
21:36 schestowitz-TR; pushing FRAND and shit
21:36 schestowitz-TR; while boosting EPO crimes
21:36 schestowitz-TR; they think they can prevent china producing things...using patents?
21:36 schestowitz-TR; Will they fly rockets with lawyers on them to beijing?
21:36 schestowitz-TR; i don't condone
21:36 schestowitz-TR; but then again
21:37 MinceR; they can ask the government of red china to ban corporations owned by itself from producing products that infringe on their patents
21:37 schestowitz-TR; those lawyers might not survive
21:37 MinceR; i'm sure it will work.
21:37 schestowitz-TR; maybe the latter is best for both woirld
21:37 schestowitz-TR; no lawyers here, none in china
21:37 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: ban encryption!!
21:37 schestowitz-TR; No "export" of code
21:37 schestowitz-TR; china will never manage to copy some c files!
21:38 MinceR; lol
21:38 bnchs___; i don't get the approved encryption shi
21:38 bnchs___; encryption is simply math
21:38 MinceR; the idea is that only outlaws will have encryption
21:38 bnchs___; you don't need a country to tell you whether you can export MATH
21:38 MinceR; and the sociopaths get to monitor everyone's life closely
21:38 DaemonFC; Russia won't encounter any serious international resistance until they attack a NATO member.
21:38 bnchs___; and thats the problem with openssl
21:38 MinceR; they won't sleep well if they don't know what your anus looked like yesterday.
21:38 DaemonFC; I think this whole thing reeks of Putin trying to grab what he thinks he can get now.
21:39 bnchs___; do i care when a country doesn't want me to export MATH
21:39 DaemonFC; But it's already damaged the Russian economy more than what they can get is worth.
21:39 MinceR; putler doesn't care
21:39 MinceR; putler's fan club doesn't care
21:39 schestowitz-TR; [21:38] <DaemonFC> Russia won't encounter any serious international resistance until they attack a NATO member.
21:39 schestowitz-TR; and then what?
21:39 schestowitz-TR; we won't nuke them
21:39 schestowitz-TR; not worth it
21:39 DaemonFC; Article V in theory.
21:39 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: ukrainians were killing people in donbass for 8 years
21:39 MinceR; people like CrystalMath will not only sacrifice everyone else, they'll sacrifice _themselves_ to benefit putler
21:39 schestowitz-TR; in theory, never tested
21:40 MinceR; humanity has reached peak self-destructiveness
21:41 CrystalMath; MinceR: i know that the west cannot offer personal freedoms
21:41 schestowitz-TR; so serbian is like the people in the alien movies
21:41 schestowitz-TR; "come save us, come save us"
21:41 CrystalMath; schestowitz-TR: no, not really
21:41 schestowitz-TR; and then a laser beam fries them
21:41 schestowitz-TR; turns out the aliens aren't so friendly"
21:41 CrystalMath; we just believe that russians are our brothers
21:41 MinceR; CrystalMath: yeah, i know, the only personal freedoms are 1) the right not to wear a mask and 2) the right not to be vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2
21:41 CrystalMath; and our allies
21:42 schestowitz-TR; CrystalMath: you believes
21:42 CrystalMath; but we don't like our own government
21:42 schestowitz-TR; Russia loves Serbian
21:42 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft loves Linux
21:42 CrystalMath; we never like our own government for some reason..
21:42 MinceR; who gives a shit about freedom of speech, or the right to own property, or the right to the privacy of your home, or the right to the fruits of your own labor, or freedom of movement
21:42 schestowitz-TR; russians are the same
21:42 schestowitz-TR; but they cannot vote out the lunatic
21:42 schestowitz-TR; they don't even have free speech
21:42 CrystalMath; MinceR: those are all great, except for the last one which has to be limited by other people's property
21:43 schestowitz-TR; so they aren't capable of knowing what goes on
21:43 MinceR; CrystalMath: i think you need to get help, this obsession is unhealthy
21:43 schestowitz-TR; putin loves serbian or serbian people like Microsoft likes Linux and Linus Torvalds
21:43 schestowitz-TR; *serbia
21:44 schestowitz-TR; you are just a potental resource to them
21:44 schestowitz-TR; to tap on
21:44 schestowitz-TR; like Puerto Ricans to Washington
21:44 MinceR; sounds like they've found each other's interests
21:45 MinceR; putler wants more land and more slaves
21:45 MinceR; serbs want to contribute more land and to become slaves
21:46 CrystalMath; for example, it's a very common opinion here, that the only reason why we haven't put sanctions on russia is because of the election in april
21:46 XRevan86; Putin for President of Serbia! Ye can take him.
21:46 CrystalMath; simply, if you put sanctions on russia, you become unelectable
21:46 CrystalMath; but our government is known to be pro-china
21:46 CrystalMath; they got chinese cops to patrol our streets, even
21:47 MinceR; i think the serbian elections were timed for 3 april so that the OSCE will have to divide its resources between hungary and serbia
21:47 schestowitz-TR; sounds so plausible that it's almost amusing
21:48 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft and EPO have often timed things toi conflict
21:48 schestowitz-TR; to distract from something
21:48 MinceR; not that the OSCE was in any particular hurry to keep an eye on hungarian elections since 2010
21:49 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: they should look at the ringleaders
21:49 schestowitz-TR; the elections are held in another country
21:49 schestowitz-TR; the handler
21:50 CrystalMath; MinceR: apparently there's a convoy in belgrade in support of russia
21:51 CrystalMath; with russian flags
21:51 MinceR; maybe they ran out of serbian flags
21:51 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of north macedonia
21:52 MinceR; are their russian flags upside down?
21:52 schestowitz-TR; and citzens carryng albanian falgs
21:52 schestowitz-TR; in effect carrying flags of a foreign nation
21:52 schestowitz-TR; asif they want to live somewhere else or be invaded
21:52 schestowitz-TR; which to me seems like the definition of treason
21:52 CrystalMath; schestowitz-TR: yep, but they don't secede because NM treats them well
21:52 CrystalMath; it doesn't shell its own people like ukraine does
21:53 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Any Novorussia Conferedation (that never came to be) flags in there?
21:53 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.56
21:53 MinceR; seriously, how many organizations does russia need to keep countries it's itching to annex in?
21:53 MinceR; there's the eurasian union, there's some bullshit with belarus
21:53 MinceR; there's the CIS
21:54 XRevan86; It's 2015 stuff, doesn't really matter, except the flag is https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/War_flag_of_Novorussia.svg
21:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/War_flag_of_Novorussia.svg
21:54 kingoffrance; i think that is how multipolar looks MinceR :D
21:54 MinceR; lol
21:54 MinceR; yeah, multiple poles, but every one of them is just russia
21:55 XRevan86; This demands a Forrest Gump reference
21:55 kingoffrance; you can have any color as long as its black
21:55 MinceR; lol @ flag
21:55 MinceR; "oh shit, we forgot the stars on our slave-driver flag"
21:55 DaemonFC; At least with the Ukraine thing, CNN is still finding time to publish "White Americans hate black men for no reason." articles.
21:55 DaemonFC; So that's nice.
21:55 DaemonFC; Stirring the shit.
21:56 MinceR; maybe they have dedicated people for that
21:56 MinceR; or a program
21:56 DaemonFC; A program could do it.
21:56 DaemonFC; Just toss in the usual buzzwords.
21:56 CrystalMath; XRevan86: nope, i don't know if they know about it
21:57 XRevan86; MinceR, CrystalMath: https://youtu.be/lNGnrO3thMY <- multipolar shrimps
21:57 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lNGnrO3thMY
21:57 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Forrest Gump - Bubba shrimp scene - Invidious
21:57 DaemonFC; MinceR, It's basically the same story every day.
21:57 DaemonFC; They have to remind you that all White people are evil.
21:57 MinceR; maybe they have a form in their CMS
21:57 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: maybe in the west they really are
21:58 MinceR; "create new whites vs blacks article"
21:58 XRevan86; ?t=150
21:58 MinceR; just fill in a few fields, and bam! ready.
21:58 CrystalMath; i mean, i've talked to many... they all support horrible massacres commited by ukrainians
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21:58 TR Bot; Geminispace Syndication | Techrights
21:58 DaemonFC; "To fill your inbox with racist anti-White bullshit from CNN, click here."
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22:06 CrystalMath; MinceR: serbia would have been *very* different, i'm quite sure, if NATO hadn't bombed civilians and cities that have nothing to do with the kosovo conflict
22:07 MinceR; i'm quite sure serbia wouldn't have been bombed by the NATO if serbs weren't so keen on committing war crimes
22:08 CrystalMath; MinceR: the problem is that NATO thinks that justifies killing innocent civilians
22:08 CrystalMath; bombing hospitals, etc...
22:18 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2202247
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22:22 DaemonFC; The Serbs were just going in, taking over people's houses, raping the womenfolk.
22:22 DaemonFC; I mean, nothing bad, right?
22:22 DaemonFC; That happens in America.
22:22 DaemonFC; CNN apologizes for the people doing it.
22:24 DaemonFC; MinceR, There's one woman that's been evicted over 16 times since 1980 from houses she's squatted in, in Illinois.
22:24 DaemonFC; Every time one owner manages to get her out of a vacant house she's managed to stay in for 18 months or so (it's a civil process), she does it again.
22:24 DaemonFC; I don't know of a place more screwed up than Illinois, on a legal front, except maybe in Europe.
22:42 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: wait what? no
22:43 CrystalMath; DaemonFC: the things you are talking about now is the serbian republic, that's not the NATO operation i'm referring to
22:43 CrystalMath; i'm referring to 1999
22:43 CrystalMath; serbia did not do any of those things
22:43 CrystalMath; rather, there was action against separatists in kosovo
22:44 CrystalMath; and it wasn't as diabolical as ukraine's action against separatists, tbh
22:48 OneBTS; Putin needs to put the USSR back together again. He deserves it!
22:48 DaemonFC; I'm trying to set up Mandy's new iPhone.
22:48 DaemonFC; Everything is so confusing and unintuitive.
22:49 XRevan86; OneBTS: The founding states will be Russia, Belarus', the quasi republics and Serbia?
22:49 DaemonFC; Apple doesn't even move your text messages over automatically.
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22:53 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2202242
22:53 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/pwg70rmuani81.jpg created on 2022-02-24 00:37:30.805125
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22:55 MinceR; 'in 2001 a United Nations administered Supreme Court, based in Kosovo, found that there had been "a systematic campaign of terror, including murders, rapes, arsons and severe maltreatments"'
22:55 MinceR; but who cares about that
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23:03 psydroid8; CrystalMath, how did the genocides in Bosnia and Herzegovina start?
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23:23 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/2202245
23:23 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/fsyz2cgii7j81.jpg created on 2022-02-24 01:13:38.858455
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23:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Coke has been doing a very expensive ad campaign in "sponsored content" stories for a new product.
23:59 DaemonFC; And now it's popping up ads on Walmart self-checkouts too.
23:59 DaemonFC; THey're in serious trouble.
23:59 DaemonFC; Not just because of the bad economy and price hikes, but because of their racism.
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