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00:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, I have one of those winter coats that comes apart into three pieces, so I can wash it in my little washing machine. I wasn't considering that when I bought it, but it's nice.
00:03 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: any plans for tomorrow?
00:04 DaemonFC; Mom's landlord's mother complained that the laundromat charged her ten dollars to dry clean her coat.
00:04 DaemonFC; It was one of those big expensive old people coats from the 70s.
00:04 DaemonFC; She was like "Ten dollars! I didn't want to buy it again!".
00:04 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR2> DaemonFC: any plans for tomorrow?
00:04 DaemonFC; Not really.
00:04 DaemonFC; Maybe go out to eat.
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; the old coats were good
00:04 schestowitz-TR2; made more properly
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; I still use a coat I had as a (iirc) 15 y-o
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; I still remember buying it with my mom
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; it's almost in mint condition still
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; walking boots were the same
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; you could repair them and uee them for decades
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; but now people love "cheap and fast"
00:05 schestowitz-TR2; so they buy it... 10 times over
00:06 schestowitz-TR2; neither cheap nor long-lasting
00:06 schestowitz-TR2; and not worth the cost of shoe repair
00:07 DaemonFC; My winter boots are okay.
00:07 DaemonFC; Need to get some replacement shoelaces though.
00:07 schestowitz-TR2; firefighters' boots are great
00:07 schestowitz-TR2; but expensive
00:07 schestowitz-TR2; and maybe impossible to get
00:08 schestowitz-TR2; lots of layers in them
00:08 DaemonFC; People don't like "cheap".
00:08 DaemonFC; People are broke.
00:08 schestowitz-TR2; yes, it's like sachet
00:08 schestowitz-TR2; in .ph
00:08 schestowitz-TR2; more expensive
00:08 schestowitz-TR2; but you pay for what you can afford immediatelyu
00:09 schestowitz-TR2; not thinking about total life of the product
00:09 schestowitz-TR2; the real cost
00:09 schestowitz-TR2; meanwhile bilbil (tagalog) flies with epstein
00:09 schestowitz-TR2; and tells us the worst of the thing he sells vaccines for is yet to come
00:09 schestowitz-TR2; and the media is apparently back to "bilbil says" pieces
00:09 DaemonFC; Bill Gates was saying the "worst of the pandemic is ahead". No shit, Sherlock.
00:10 DaemonFC; And the vaccines didn't make things any better.
00:10 schestowitz-TR2; buy MOAR
00:10 schestowitz-TR2; he has patents
00:10 schestowitz-TR2; he wants to be #1 again, bezos annoys him
00:10 schestowitz-TR2; btw, bilbil said last year we were resolving this
00:11 schestowitz-TR2; and that climate change would be a big challenge
00:11 schestowitz-TR2; billbc did a bibilsays piece
00:11 schestowitz-TR2; as if, OK, we're done here
00:11 schestowitz-TR2; let's sell book abotu climate
00:11 schestowitz-TR2; buy my patented fake burgers
00:11 schestowitz-TR2; we need to call out, naming and shaming, all publication that take bribes from this criminal
00:12 schestowitz-TR2; maybe they'll stop
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00:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, If you're eligible for "safe driver renewal" the Illinois DMV won't even let you make an appointment to go in now.
00:15 DaemonFC; I got really lucky, schestowitz-TR2 insofar as having to get my car fixed after two felonious cocksuckers without a license or insurance ran into it, and then the cops stuck a ticket in my hand and let the assholes go.
00:16 DaemonFC; After they faked a back injury they never bothered to file an insurance claim.
00:16 schestowitz-TR2; don't say "cocksuckers"
00:16 schestowitz-TR2; even if you are gay
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00:16 schestowitz-TR2; the term "cocksuckers" puts off people
00:16 DaemonFC; So no accident on my record because my insurance company never had to pay anything.
00:16 schestowitz-TR2; and you give ammo to our adversaries
00:16 DaemonFC; Then I beat the ticket because nobody showed up, so no failure to yield.
00:17 DaemonFC; That would have been real bad. My rates would have gone through the roof.
00:17 DaemonFC; Fixing the car wouldn't have been 10% of it after they were done with me.
00:18 DaemonFC; Then no "safe driver" so I'd have to go stand at the DMV for 4 hours to do anything, every year, for the next 5 years.
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00:19 DaemonFC; It's on George Carlin's dirty words you can't say on the radio.
00:19 schestowitz-TR2; yes
00:19 schestowitz-TR2; but we are not standup comedy
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00:41 TR News; #Krita 5.0 Released! Much Faster Now while Less Memory Usage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159460#comment-32262 #kde
00:41 TR Bot; Krita 5.0 Open-Source Digital Painting Software Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
00:41 TR News; #GIMP 2.10.30 improves support for PSD and various image formats http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159378#comment-32263 #gnu #freesw
00:41 TR Bot; GIMP 2.10.30 Improves Support for PSD and AVIF Files, Supports Modern Linux Distros | Tux Machines
00:41 TR News; Neptune 7.0 Faye Released with Zswap, Based on #Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:41 TR Bot; Neptune 7.0 Faye Released with Zswap, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
00:54 TR News; Best Linux File Managers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159476 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:54 TR Bot; Best Linux File Managers | Tux Machines
00:54 TR News; #Audacity 3.1.3 Open-Source Audio Editor Makes Project Loading Up to 50x Faster Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159477 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:54 TR Bot; Audacity 3.1.3 Open-Source Audio Editor Makes Project Loading Up to 50x Faster | Tux Machines
00:54 TR News; 23 Best Free Internet Radio Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159478 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
00:54 TR Bot; 23 Best Free Internet Radio Software | Tux Machines
01:00 TR News; My Top 5 Linux Distro Releases of 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159479 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:00 TR Bot; My Top 5 Linux Distro Releases of 2021 | Tux Machines
01:00 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159480 #Linux #TuxMachines
01:00 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:00 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159481 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:00 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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01:08 TR News; Web #Programming and Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159482 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:08 TR Bot; Web Programming and Frameworks | Tux Machines
01:08 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: "Who REALLY OWNS Linux", elementary OS 6.1 Jlnir Overview, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159483 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:08 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: "Who REALLY OWNS Linux", elementary OS 6.1 Jlnir Overview, and More | Tux Machines
01:09 TR News; Top alternatives of #Microsoft #Outlook for GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:09 TR Bot; Top alternatives of Microsoft Outlook for Linux | Tux Machines
01:10 TR News; Update Regarding Slovenia and #VojkoToman Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/ #Techrights #europe #slovenia | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/ @jrepin
01:10 TR Bot; Update Regarding Slovenia and Vojko Toman | Techrights
01:11 TR News; End of Year Posts Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159485 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:11 TR Bot; End of Year Posts | Tux Machines
01:11 TR News; #Fedora and #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159486 #Linux #TuxMachines
01:11 TR Bot; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:12 TR News; Sustainable creativity in a world without #copyright Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming
01:12 TR Bot; Sustainable creativity in a world without copyright | Tux Machines
01:14 TR News; Mike Gabriel: MATE 1.26 has finally landed in #Debian testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw
01:14 TR Bot; Mike Gabriel: MATE 1.26 has finally landed in Debian testing | Tux Machines
01:15 TR News; #Proprietary and #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159489 #TuxMachines
01:15 TR Bot; Proprietary and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:16 TR News; #OpenHardware /Modding: Retro, Linux, Arduino, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159490 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:16 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Retro, Linux, Arduino, and More | Tux Machines
01:17 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159491 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:17 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; #Audacity Delivers an Early Xmas Present: 50x Faster Project Loading http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159477#comment-32266 #freesw #spyware
01:18 TR Bot; Audacity 3.1.3 Open-Source Audio Editor Makes Project Loading Up to 50x Faster | Tux Machines
01:18 TR News; Links 24/12/2021: Neptune 7.0 Faye Released, Another Massive Security Hole in #Azure Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/neptune-7-0-faye-released/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/neptune-7-0-faye-released/
01:18 TR Bot; Links 24/12/2021: Neptune 7.0 Faye Released, Another Massive Security Hole in Azure | Techrights
01:34 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.66
01:41 TR News; Arduino IoT Cloud Scheduler Enhances Automation for Your Projects https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/arduino-iot-cloud-scheduler-brings-enhanced-automation-to-your-projects/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
01:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/arduino-iot-cloud-scheduler-brings-enhanced-automation-to-your-projects/
01:41 TR Bot; Arduino IoT Cloud Scheduler Enhances Automation for Your Projects
01:41 TR News; Retrofit your light switch with this remote-controlled device | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/retrofit-your-light-switch-with-this-remote-controlled-device/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
01:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/retrofit-your-light-switch-with-this-remote-controlled-device/
01:41 TR Bot; Retrofit your light switch with this remote-controlled device | Arduino Blog
01:42 TR News; "Theres no information about software, but we can assume the system runs a #Linux OS based on #Qualcomm SDK or #OpenWrt ." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/23/dual-10gbe-router-supports-wifi-6-ax3600/
01:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/23/dual-10gbe-router-supports-wifi-6-ax3600/
01:42 TR Bot; Dual 10GbE router supports WiFi 6 (AX3600) - CNX Software
01:48 TR News; "The stepper motor is driven by an #Arduino Nano" https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/a-simple-3d-printed-gear-clock-shows-off-how-it-works/
01:48 TR Bot; Simple 3D Printed Gear Clock Shows Off How It Works | Hackaday
01:48 TR News; This is, in effect, a back doors in #AMD processor, akin to M.E. in all #Intel processors https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-AMD-i2c-PSP-Sharing #x86
01:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-AMD-i2c-PSP-Sharing
01:48 TR Bot; Linux Patches For AMD i2c Bus Sharing With The PSP - Phoronix
01:55 TR News; #proprietarySoftware "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-357-02
01:55 TR Bot; Johnson Controls exacq Enterprise Manager | CISA
01:55 TR News; Another one: #proprietarySoftware "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-357-01
01:55 TR Bot; Moxa MGate Protocol Gateways | CISA
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02:02 TR News; Lovely, #microsoft , just lovely https://thehackernews.com/2021/12/4-year-old-bug-in-azure-app-service.html no wonder #azure staff is being laid off. Dying platform... http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/
02:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2021/12/4-year-old-bug-in-azure-app-service.html
02:02 TR Bot; 4-Year-Old Bug in Azure App Service Exposed Hundreds of Source Code Repositories
02:02 TR Bot; Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights
02:02 TR News; "Almost three years ago, we moved the existing Ask #Fedora site from an engine which attempted to replicate Stack Exchange to a new system (the current Ask Fedora) based on Discourse, a modern open source web forum platform. We had some frustrations with the software" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/upcoming-downtime-for-fedora-discussion/
02:02 TR Bot; Upcoming downtime for Fedora Discussion Fedora Community Blog
02:14 DaemonFC; https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/22/politics/antiviral-pill-biden-statement/index.html
02:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/22/politics/antiviral-pill-biden-statement/index.html
02:14 TR Bot; Biden says 250,000 treatment courses of Pfizer's antiviral pill will be available in January - CNNPolitics
02:14 DaemonFC; A million people a day will get COVID.
02:14 DaemonFC; 250,000 for the entire month will get treatment.
02:14 DaemonFC; -The Government
02:14 schestowitz-TR2; some plan...
02:14 schestowitz-TR2; did mr micro-soft get hard?
02:16 TR News; What. Da. Fark. "FOSS Life" promoting #adobe #proprietarySoftware and there's not even remotely a rationale for this. Why not GIMP or Krita? https://www.fosslife.org/adobe-launches-free-graphics-tool
02:16 TR Bot; Adobe Launches Free Graphics Tool
02:34 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 143.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.63
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-231221.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-231221.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
02:39 TR News; 2021: The Year the #LibreOffice Documentation Team Shined https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/12/23/2021-the-year-documentation-team-shined/ #freesw
02:39 TR Bot; 2021: The Year the LibreOffice Documentation Team Shined - The Document Foundation Blog
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-231221.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
02:39 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #elementaryOS 6.1 Odin and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=djDnD1gUhVg #gnu #;omix
02:39 TR Bot; elementary OS 6.1 Jlnir overview | The smart, capable and ethical replacement for Windows and macOS - Invidious
02:39 TR News; Why linking #Aadhaar with voter IDs could end up excluding voters - Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/why-linking-aadhaar-with-voter-ids-could-end-up-excluding-voters/articleshow/88437603.cms #timesofindia #india
02:39 TR Bot; Why linking Aadhaar with voter IDs could end up excluding voters - Times of India
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-231221.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
02:41 TR News; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXX: The Idiosyncratic Italians Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #italy | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/
02:41 TR Bot; The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXX: The Idiosyncratic Italians | Techrights
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
03:00 TR News; "features are good, a lack of features is bad; that's the law of the web" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231221.html#tDec%2023%2013:07:34
03:00 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
03:02 TR News; Man bites dog https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/wellbeing/newcastle-church-of-ubuntu-sacked-woman-for-getting-covid19-vaccine/news-story/c0c9f6315bb431f1dc460adbb811e0b7
03:02 TR Bot; Church of Ubuntu sacked woman for getting Covid-19 vaccine | news.com.au Australias leading news site
03:06 TR News; #nft = #scam and over-valuing bkuhn https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/dec/23/nft-faces-of-open-source/
03:06 TR Bot; On Non-Fungible Tokens, Faces of Our Leadership, and Supporting Artists - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
03:06 TR News; #Systemd 250 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159492 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
03:06 TR Bot; Systemd 250 released | Tux Machines
03:09 TR News; he EPO-friendly #VojkoToman, who also protected #AntnioCampinos , was the subject of recent media coverage in #Slovenia Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/ #Techrights #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/
03:09 TR Bot; Update Regarding Slovenia and Vojko Toman | Techrights
03:10 TR News; At last, #Techrights takes a look at the person who represented #Italy in the #EPO for over 15 years Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/ #europe #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/
03:15 TR News; "On behalf of the Rakudo development team, Im very happy to announce the December 2021 release of Rakudo #152. #Rakudo is an implementation of the Raku1 language." https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2021.12 #rakulang #programming
03:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: rakudo.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2021.12
03:15 TR Bot; Rakudo compiler, Release #152 (2021.12) - Rakudo Compiler for Raku Programming Language
03:16 TR News; #OpenCV Knows Where Your Hand Is | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/opencv-knows-where-your-hand-is/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/24/#latest
03:16 TR Bot; Knows Where Your Hand Is | Hackaday
03:16 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
03:18 TR News; Last minute gift ideas: give an FSF membership and other free software gifts https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/last-minute-gift-ideas-give-an-fsf-membership-and-other-free-software-gifts #FSF #GNU #FreeSW #SoftwareFreedom c
03:18 TR Bot; Last minute gift ideas: give an FSF membership and other free software gifts Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
03:19 TR News; Fixing A #Freezer Design Flaw With A Little Bit Of Heat | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/fixing-a-freezer-design-flaw-with-a-little-bit-of-heat/ #hackaday
03:19 TR Bot; A Freezer Design Flaw With A Little Bit Of Heat | Hackaday
03:20 TR News; Xsnow: Brings Snow To A Poor Aussie #GNULinux User - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XOyid9J9Cug #video #invidious #gnu #linux
03:20 TR Bot; Xsnow: Brings Snow To A Poor Aussie Linux User - Invidious
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03:21 TR News; Unleashing Accelerated Speeds with RAM Drives https://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2021/64/Unleashing-Accelerated-Speeds-with-RAM-Drives
03:21 TR Bot; RAM Drive Acceleration ADMIN Magazine
03:24 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 374093 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38545 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 2 months 13 days ago
03:24 TR News; "The #PostgreSQL Core Team has published its activity report for the period between June 2019 through December 2021" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-core-team-report-june-2019-december-2021-2381/ #psql #freesw #db
03:24 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Core Team Report: June 2019 - December 2021
03:25 TR News; " #Firebird Project is happy to announce general availability of Firebird 4.0.1 the first point release in the Firebird 4.0 series." https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2021/12/firebird-project-is-happy-to-announce.html
03:25 TR Bot; Mariuz's Blog: Firebird Project is happy to announce general availability of Firebird 4.0.1
03:25 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 22 GB TotalOut: 5.7 GB
03:26 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:26 TR News; What #Kubernetes taught me about development | https://opensource.com/article/21/12/kubernetes-developer #FreeSW #RedHat #GNU #Linux
03:26 TR Bot; Kubernetes taught me about development | Opensource.com
03:28 TR News; #Polychromatic should #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Polychromatic-0.7.3 #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
03:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Polychromatic-0.7.3
03:28 TR Bot; 0.7.3 Released With New Razer Device Support, 8000Hz Polling - Phoronix
03:28 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights
03:30 TR News; "... computer language design is just like a stroll in the park. Jurassic Park, that is." -- Larry Wall http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2021/12/my-favorite-warnings-ambiguous.html #perl #programming
03:31 TR Bot; Favorite Warnings: ambiguous | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
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03:34 MinceR; :)
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03:36 IPFS; QmTTqHT1gu1SWzp4ejhsMMHeEr1cnaDHeAQnawx8obkmR5
03:36 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:42 TR News; Fake progress. PalmOS could do it 20 years ago. https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/how-to-use-google-maps-while-music-is-playing-on-your-phone/
03:42 TR Bot; How to use Google Maps while music is playing on your phone
03:43 MinceR; lol
03:43 TR News; "Apps" are about removing functionality you used to have. #clowncomputing is about removing #privacy or #dataprotection you've long enjoyed. "Smart" means the opposite of that word.
03:48 schestowitz-TR2; MinceR: realplayer for example
03:48 schestowitz-TR2; could play as a background process
03:48 schestowitz-TR2; in the pseudo multitask system
03:48 schestowitz-TR2; of early versions of palmOS
03:49 schestowitz-TR2; prior to tungsten even
03:49 MinceR; i know
03:49 MinceR; but it's hilarious that someone is still dealing with this on a hypePhone in 2021 instead of getting a real phone
03:50 schestowitz-TR2; yeah,
03:50 schestowitz-TR2; I'm liks..
03:50 schestowitz-TR2; Waht. da. FARK!
03:50 schestowitz-TR2; consider how much processing power these have
03:50 schestowitz-TR2; you could plug in a 1080p display
03:51 schestowitz-TR2; and rung lots of stuff on ... how much RAM is on today's phones? Last I checked the high end ones were like 10GB
03:51 schestowitz-TR2; and I checked like 5+ years agho
03:52 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159493 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
03:52 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
03:53 TR News; #RakuAdvent Calendar: Day 24 Packaging and unpackaging real good https://raku-advent.blog/2021/12/24/packaging-and-unpackaging-real-good/ #programming #rakulang
03:53 TR Bot; Day 24 Packaging and unpackaging real good Raku Advent Calendar
03:56 TR News; "You would assume that any #programming language available back in the 1960s would be small enough to easily implement on todays computers. Thats not always true though, since old languages sometimes used multiple passes." https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/lisp-in-436-bytes/
03:56 TR Bot; In 436 Bytes | Hackaday
03:57 TR News; "Being ubiquitous, Google Analytics raises privacy concerns. When someone visits a website that uses Google Analytics, Google uses your IP address to track who you visit in order to determine your approximate geographic location." #malware from #gulag -- please do not add it to sites! https://linuxhint.com/google-analytics/
03:57 TR Bot; Google-Analytics
03:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/google-analytics/
04:00 TR News; #freesw Unlocks the Worlds Potential Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159494 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
04:00 TR Bot; Open Unlocks the Worlds Potential | Tux Machines
04:01 TR News; #freesw is dangerous, says company that puts #backdoors in everything for #nsa et al. #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
04:01 TR Bot; Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
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04:02 TR News; Don't use #skype or #microsoft #teams ... tools of #imperialism http://techrights.org/2012/06/20/skype-and-nsa/
04:02 TR Bot; Skype in Microsofts Hands Gives NSA Access to International Phonecalls | Techrights
04:03 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159495 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
04:03 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
04:04 TR News; Fake progress: copycats of #irc like #slack and other crap, with 10-100 more RAM consumption and no #privacy at all. We're being sold a pile of s- and then told it tastes lovely.
04:05 TR News; How can you take Sway seriously if it does not #deletegithub h Do you really want to adopt projects that trust #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware for coding?
04:05 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, December 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:05 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:06 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:06 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:09 TR News; NEWS #DJAdams Truncation and neat terminal output https://qmacro.org/autodidactics/2021/12/23/truncation-and-neat-terminal-output/
04:09 TR Bot; Truncation and neat terminal output
04:09 TR News; NEWS #ChenHuiJing The many methods for using #SVG icons https://chenhuijing.com/blog/the-many-methods-for-using-svg-icons/
04:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: chenhuijing.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://chenhuijing.com/blog/the-many-methods-for-using-svg-icons/
04:09 TR Bot; The many methods for using SVG icons
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04:12 TR News; NEWS #JeffGeerling #OpenHardware #RaspberryPi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/raspberry-pi-holds-its-own-against-low-cost-arm-nas
04:12 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS | Jeff Geerling
04:16 TR News; NEWS #CSSTricks #Programming Test Your Product on a Crappy Laptop https://css-tricks.com/test-your-product-on-a-crappy-laptop/
04:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: css-tricks.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://css-tricks.com/test-your-product-on-a-crappy-laptop/
04:16 TR Bot; Your Product on a Crappy Laptop - CSS-Tricks
04:16 TR News; NEWS #Programming Hunting Bugs with Bisect https://matt-rickard.com/git-bisect/
04:16 TR Bot; Hunting Bugs with Bisect
04:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/git-bisect/
04:21 TR News; NEWS #ProprietarySoftware MS Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities https://positive.security/blog/ms-teams-1-feature-4-vulns
04:21 TR Bot; MS Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities | Positive Security
04:22 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware Harris calls for 'cyber doctrine' to address increasing attacks https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/586995-harris-calls-for-cyber-doctrine-to-address-increasing-attacks http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
04:22 TR Bot; calls for 'cyber doctrine' to address increasing attacks | TheHill
04:22 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
04:23 TR News; "Regardless of how passionate and dedicated they may be, #Microsoft employees, unlike Sr. leadership, have little to no influence on environmental variables such as headcount, workload, schedules, resources, morale, management, standards, or ideologies being leveraged" http://techrights.org/2021/12/21/the-microsoft-shuffle-making-ones-own-products-intentionally-defective/
04:23 TR Bot; The Microsoft Shuffle: Making Ones Own Products Intentionally Defective | Techrights
04:30 TR News; NEWS #PCWorld Dont trust hotel Wi-Fi during holiday travel. Heres how to keep your info safe https://www.pcworld.com/article/561262/how-to-use-safe-wi-fi-connections-when-youre-traveling.html
↺ https://www.pcworld.com/article/561262/how-to-use-safe-wi-fi-connections-when-youre-traveling.html
04:30 TR Bot; trust hotel Wi-Fi during holiday travel. Here's how to keep your info safe | PCWorld
04:31 TR News; NEWS #TheSundayTimesUK #Privacy #Surveillance Detective #Tesla videos itself being keyed https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/detective-tesla-videos-itself-being-keyed-cpfq2xgqf
04:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thetimes.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/detective-tesla-videos-itself-being-keyed-cpfq2xgqf
04:31 TR Bot; Detective Tesla videos itself being keyed | News | The Times
04:31 TR News; NEWS #Privacy #Surveillance #Tesla on-board cameras show woman keying car https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/19801139.tesla-on-board-cameras-show-woman-keying-car-poole/
04:31 TR Bot; Tesla on-board cameras show woman keying car | Dorset Echo
04:33 TR News; <li>
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04:34 TR News; NEWS #NYOB #Privacy #Surveillance 4th Advent Reading: #Facebook fully ignores #Schrems rulings by Court of Justice https://noyb.eu/en/4th-advent-reading-facebook-fully-ignores-schrems-rulings-court-justice
04:34 TR Bot; 4th Advent Reading: Facebook fully ignores "Schrems" rulings by Court of Justice
04:34 TR News; NEWS #NYOB #Privacy #Surveillance Third noyb "Advent Reading" from #Facebook / #DPC Documents https://noyb.eu/en/third-noyb-advent-reading-facebookdpc-documents also see http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/formal-report-microsoft-violations/
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04:34 TR Bot; Third noyb "Advent Reading" from Facebook/DPC Documents
04:34 TR Bot; Microsoft Breaking European Privacy Laws While Distracting the Public: The Evidence (a Formal 91-Page Report) | Techrights
04:35 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Court: Ad Agency Must Pay Damages For Placing Adverts on Pirate Manga Site https://torrentfreak.com/court-agencies-must-pay-damages-for-placing-adverts-on-pirate-manga-site-211223/
04:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/court-agencies-must-pay-damages-for-placing-adverts-on-pirate-manga-site-211223/
04:35 TR Bot; Ad Agency Must Pay Damages For Placing Adverts on Pirate Manga Site * TorrentFreak
04:35 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Pirate Party Fills Three Ministerial Positions in New Czech Government https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-fills-three-ministerial-positions-in-new-czech-government-211223/
04:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-fills-three-ministerial-positions-in-new-czech-government-211223/
04:35 TR Bot; Party Fills Three Ministerial Positions in New Czech Government * TorrentFreak
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04:43 TR News; NEWS #SequoiaPGP #Confidentiality #OpenPGP Card Support In Sequoia https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/12/20/202112-openpgp-card-ci/
04:43 TR Bot; Blog - OpenPGP card support in Sequoia
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04:49 DaemonFC; First, let's kill all the lawyers...
04:49 DaemonFC; :)
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04:57 schestowitz-TR2; DaemonFC: writing about cars again
04:57 schestowitz-TR2; part 3
05:00 DaemonFC; I wonder who the armorer was for Highlander the series.
05:01 DaemonFC; Every single member of that SWAT team is holding their rifle wrong.
05:01 MinceR; :)
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05:08 TR News; NEWS #NYOB #CivilRights Complaint filed: Help! My recruiter is an algorithm! https://noyb.eu/en/complaint-filed-help-my-recruiter-algorithm
05:08 TR Bot; Complaint filed: Help! My recruiter is an algorithm!
05:17 TR News; NEWS #CBC #CivilRights #Toronto #police used #Clearview AI facial recognition software in 84 investigations https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-report-clearview-ai-1.6295295
05:17 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cbc.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-report-clearview-ai-1.6295295
05:17 TR Bot; Toronto police used Clearview AI facial recognition software in 84 investigations | CBC News
05:20 TR News; NEWS #CitizenLab #CivilRights Submission to the #Toronto #Police Services Boards Use of New HEY HI Technologies Policy https://citizenlab.ca/2021/12/submission-to-the-toronto-police-services-boards-use-of-new-artificial-intelligence-technologies-policy/
05:20 TR Bot; Submission to the Toronto Police Services Boards Use of New Artificial Intelligence Technologies Policy - The Citizen Lab
05:20 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #CivilRights #wikileaks Explained: Who Is Julian #Assange And What Is The Case Against Him https://www.indiatimes.com/explainers/news/julian-assange-wikileaks-founder-case-557448.html
05:20 TR Bot; Explained: Who Is Julian Assange And What Is The Case Against Him
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05:42 TR News; NEWS #DrewDeVault #Copyrights Sustainable creativity in a world without copyright https://drewdevault.com/2021/12/23/Sustainable-creativity-post-copyright.html
05:42 TR Bot; Sustainable creativity in a world without copyright
05:56 TR News; The #Car Drives You - Part III - The Very Concept of a Car Has Changed Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/ #Techrights #DRM #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/
05:56 TR Bot; The Car Drives You Part III The Very Concept of a Car Has Changed | Techrights
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08:32 TR News; NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange Stella Moris statement on Julian Assanges Supreme Court appeal https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-release/stella-moris-statement-on-julian-assanges-supreme-court-appeal/
08:32 TR Bot; Stella Moris statement on Julian Assanges Supreme Court appeal - Don't Extradite Assange
08:33 TR News; Manufacturing samples of Xassette-Asterisk open-source hardware board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159496 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:33 TR Bot; Manufacturing samples of Xassette-Asterisk open-source hardware board | Tux Machines
08:33 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159497 #Linux #TuxMachines
08:33 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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08:34 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 23, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/irc-log-231221/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/irc-log-231221/
08:34 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 23, 2021 | Techrights
08:35 TR News; NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #microsoft Russia fines GitHub for failing to delete Navalnys Smart Vote endorsements https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/12/23/russia-fines-github-for-failing-to-delete-navalny-s-smart-vote-endorsements
08:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/12/23/russia-fines-github-for-failing-to-delete-navalny-s-smart-vote-endorsements
08:35 TR Bot; NO TITLE
08:37 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Another Report Shows U.S. 5G Isn't Living Up To The Hype https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211222/07165348163/another-report-shows-us-5g-isnt-living-up-to-hype.shtml
08:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211222/07165348163/another-report-shows-us-5g-isnt-living-up-to-hype.shtml
08:37 TR Bot; Report Shows U.S. 5G Isn't Living Up To The Hype | Techdirt
08:39 TR News; NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies WHO Chief Says Vaccine Inequity Is 'Giving the Virus More Opportunity to Spread and Mutate' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/23/who-chief-says-vaccine-inequity-giving-virus-more-opportunity-spread-and-mutate WHO took bribes from the self-serving patent pusher, #billgates
08:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/23/who-chief-says-vaccine-inequity-giving-virus-more-opportunity-spread-and-mutate
08:39 TR Bot; WHO Chief Says Vaccine Inequity Is 'Giving the Virus More Opportunity to Spread and Mutate'
08:40 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Tanzania Tanzania's Abuse Of US #Copyright Law To Silence Critics On Twitter Should Be A Warning For Regulators Looking To Mess With Content Moderation https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211209/22513048090/tanzanias-abuse-us-copyright-law-to-silence-critics-twitter-should-be-warning-regulators-looking-to-mess-with-content-moderation.shtml
08:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211209/22513048090/tanzanias-abuse-us-copyright-law-to-silence-critics-twitter-should-be-warning-regulators-looking-to-mess-with-content-moderation.shtml
08:40 TR Bot; Abuse Of US Copyright Law To Silence Critics On Twitter Should Be A Warning For Regulators Looking To Mess With Content Moderation | Techdirt
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08:50 TR News; NEWS #DemocracyNow No One Is Safe Until Everyone Is Safe: #Oxfam on Vaccine Equity & Taking On #Moderna https://www.democracynow.org/2021/12/23/oxfam_moderna_vaccine_patent_rights #patent #patents
08:50 TR Bot; No One Is Safe Until Everyone Is Safe: Oxfam on Vaccine Equity & Taking On Moderna | Democracy Now!
08:53 TR News; The debate or the conversation about what it means to be car owners relates to issues discussed since the 1980s in the context of software (or code-sharing/code-altering practices) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/ #Techrights #freesw #toyota #drm | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/
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08:59 TR News; #fedra magazine is shilling #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware on #xmas eve https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-publish-your-content-using-github-pages-and-jekyll/
08:59 TR Bot; How to publish your content using GitHub Pages and Jekyll - Fedora Magazine
09:00 TR News; #Games: Polychromatic, Controllers, and Ogre 2.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159498 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:00 TR Bot; Games: Polychromatic, Controllers, and Ogre 2.3 | Tux Machines
09:02 TR News; "The lights are sequenced to music using Falcon Player running on a #BeagleBone Black with the Kulp Lights F8-B Cape and a Pixel2AC board. The sequence was programmed using xLights on openSUSE Tumbleweed." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/12/24/christmas-light-display-2021/
09:02 TR Bot; Light Display 2021 CubicleNate's Techpad
09:02 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159499 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:02 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
09:04 psydroid2; Carmaggedon has never been as relevant as it seems to be now
09:04 psydroid2; What's worse, killing lawyers or killing lawyers?
09:05 schestowitz-TR2; lawyers kkilling?
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09:06 psydroid2; yeah, that was the ambiguity I was alluding to
09:06 schestowitz-TR2; they sure make a killing
09:06 schestowitz-TR2; charging so much
09:06 schestowitz-TR2; Mr. GAFAM would know
09:06 schestowitz-TR2; he paid them a lot of money for nothing
09:07 TR News; #Databases: Firebird, PostgreSQL, and #SQLite Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159500 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:07 TR Bot; Databases: Firebird, PostgreSQL, and SQLite | Tux Machines
09:08 psydroid2; there have been some stories of lawyers here who wanted to kill people by running their cars into them
09:09 schestowitz-TR2; you are in NL
09:09 schestowitz-TR2; where Team UPC's
09:09 schestowitz-TR2; Por
09:09 schestowitz-TR2; has been promoting crimes
09:09 schestowitz-TR2; and is still shamelessly lying this week
09:10 schestowitz-TR2; they make their occupation look like a crime
09:12 psydroid2; crime pays off in a big way
09:12 schestowitz-TR2; sadly
09:13 TR News; Release Notes for #siduction 2021.3.0 Wintersky Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159501 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debian
09:13 TR Bot; Release Notes for siduction 2021.3.0 Wintersky | Tux Machines
09:18 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt Another #Illinois Appeals Court Handles Compelled Password Production, Says There's No #FifthAmendment Issue Here https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211127/16284248014/another-illinois-appeals-court-handles-compelled-password-production-says-theres-no-fifth-amendment-issue-here.shtml
09:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211127/16284248014/another-illinois-appeals-court-handles-compelled-password-production-says-theres-no-fifth-amendment-issue-here.shtml
09:18 TR Bot; Illinois Appeals Court Handles Compelled Password Production, Says There's No Fifth Amendment Issue Here | Techdirt
09:19 TR News; NEWS #TruthOut #patent #monopolies #patents Oxfam Takes On #Moderna in Fight for Vaccine Equity https://truthout.org/video/oxfam-takes-on-moderna-in-fight-for-vaccine-equity/
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09:19 TR Bot; Oxfam Takes On Moderna in Fight for Vaccine Equity
09:20 TR News; #OpenHardware /Modding: Newt, #BeagleBone Black, and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:20 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: Newt, BeagleBone Black, and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
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09:38 TR News; 10 reasons to love Linux in 2021 | https://opensource.com/article/21/12/reasons-love-linux #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
09:38 TR Bot; reasons to love Linux in 2021 | Opensource.com
09:39 TR News; #redhat on #ibm on "emotional intelligence (EQ)"??? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/12/leadership-how-show-hybrid-teams-empathy
09:39 TR Bot; Leadership: How to show empathy to hybrid work teams | The Enterprisers Project
09:39 psydroid2; open source <3 linux
09:39 schestowitz-TR2; :-D
09:45 TR News; "I'm advocating for a free, open internet. When all the main browsers are captured by corporate interests, is it really free and open? Can't governments fund foundations that are fighting for public good?" https://indieweb.social/@obsolete29/107456557319016748
09:45 TR Bot; Harley : "I'm advocating for a free, open internet. When al" - Indieweb.Social
09:47 TR News; "Just reminded of what #Microsoft is willing to do to protect its #monopolies (in this case corrupting the entire global ISO process to protect its Office monopoly)" https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107487616811301776
09:47 TR Bot; Dave Lane: "And yes, I also miss Groklaw..." - Mastodon - NZOSS
09:48 TR News; "I haven't read that for about 8 years... and I'd forgotten the details... yeah, very confronting and pretty devastating. She is a great figure in our open community." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107487536994505917 #groklaw
09:48 TR Bot; Dave Lane: "Just reminded of what Microsoft is willing to do " - Mastodon - NZOSS
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09:52 TR News; #TikTok is accused of violating GPL with new livestreaming software https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/tiktok-obs-gpl-violation https://qoto.org/@lupyuen/107482557218000970 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159286#comment-32267
09:52 TR Bot; TikTok violates GPL with new broadcast studio app - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
09:52 TR Bot; Lup Yuen Lee : ""TikTok is accused of violating GPL with new live" - Qoto Mastodon
09:52 TR Bot; TikTok accused of stealing from competitor for new livestreaming app | Tux Machines
09:53 TR News; "Is there any #debian developer out there interested in packaging the portable release of #gameoftrees?" https://bsd.network/@stsp/107481323406277970
09:53 TR Bot; Stefan Sperling: "Is there any #debian developer out there interest" - BSD Network
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09:54 TR News; So-called 'Smart' Home... no longer your home, just a place for you within which to be spied on https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/107491812114885699
09:54 TR Bot; Glyn Moody: "Open Source 'Matter' Hopes To Make Sense Of The F" - Mastodon
09:55 TR News; How an N.B. man's teen prank led to a 63-year exchange of Christmas cards https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-prank-christmas-1.6294366
09:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cbc.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-prank-christmas-1.6294366
09:55 TR Bot; How an N.B. man's teen prank led to a 63-year exchange of Christmas cards | CBC News
09:58 TR News; Jaromil: "Today we finished the migration of core infrastructure servers at dyne.org including the ones running this mailinglist and serving #devuan developers with the video conference and crypto pad web applications." https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20211223.170207.6afcad6d.en.html #gnu #linux
09:58 TR Bot; [devuan-dev] [OT] dyne.org server migration
10:01 TR News; #Beebom posting anti-Linux spam for #microsoft on #xmas Eve
10:03 TR News; Best Wishes from TDF - The Document Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159485#comment-32268
10:03 TR Bot; End of Year Posts | Tux Machines
10:04 TR News; Ring In The New Year With #DIY #Bagpipes | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/ring-in-the-new-year-with-diy-bagpipes/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/24/#latest
10:04 TR Bot; In The New Year With DIY Bagpipes | Hackaday
10:04 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
10:09 TR News; "If its always been your dream to tinker with a little fruit flys brain, you can do so yourself using the open source FlyBrainLab tool provided, along with the freely available data sources. " https://hackaday.com/2021/12/24/flybrainlab-google-earth-but-for-a-drosophila-flys-brain/
10:09 TR Bot; Google Earth But For A Drosophila Flys Brain | Hackaday
10:09 TR News; $35 Orange Pi 3 LTS SBC comes with 2GB RAM, 8GB flash, AW859A WiFi 5 and Bluetooth 5.0 module Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:09 TR Bot; $35 Orange Pi 3 LTS SBC comes with 2GB RAM, 8GB flash, AW859A WiFi 5 and Bluetooth 5.0 module | Tux Machines
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10:24 TR News; Links 24/12/2021: Sway 1.7 RC, #Systemd 250 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/sway-1-7-rc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/sway-1-7-rc/
10:24 TR Bot; Links 24/12/2021: Sway 1.7 RC, Systemd 250 | Techrights
10:25 TR News; #Microsoft Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159504 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:25 TR Bot; Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:25 TR News; #FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159505 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:25 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
10:26 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:26 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
10:29 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/12/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-50-51/ #opensuse #suse #gnu #linux
10:29 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
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10:33 TR News; We take action against Hack-for-Hire firm Belltrox #SaveOurPrivacy https://internetfreedom.in/meta-belltrox-hack-for-hire/ #internetfreedom #india #in #privacy
10:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/meta-belltrox-hack-for-hire/
10:33 TR Bot; We take action against Hack-for-Hire firm Belltrox #SaveOurPrivacy
10:33 TR News; #darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159507 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:33 TR Bot; darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 | Tux Machines
10:37 TR News; #ticker - terminal stock ticker Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159508 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:37 TR Bot; ticker - terminal stock ticker | Tux Machines
10:41 TR News; 7 Linux Distros Released This Christmas Season Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159509 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:41 TR Bot; 7 Linux Distros Released This Christmas Season | Tux Machines
10:41 TR News; 9 Hot Free and Open Source Java Application Servers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159510 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:41 TR Bot; 9 Hot Free and Open Source Java Application Servers | Tux Machines
10:45 TR News; #openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159511 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suse
10:45 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 | Tux Machines
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11:32 psydroid2; https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interface/2018/03/the-future-of-autocad.html
↺ https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interface/2018/03/the-future-of-autocad.html
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11:32 TR Bot; The future of AutoCAD - Through the Interface
11:33 psydroid2; so they've had a web version for years but never a Linux version
11:39 psydroid2; proprietary business models are so devious and user-hostile
11:40 psydroid2; someone moved the goalposts again with the Krita 5.0.0 announcement by claiming that people use plug-ins that are only available for Adobe trash
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12:37 *activelow is struggling
12:37 activelow; something is broken with "canadian cross" compilation
12:37 activelow; not important
12:38 activelow; the legacy gcc-4.7.4 succeeded, however it failed to compile Linux kernel, because linux requires non C90/99 extensions since kernel version 5.9
12:39 activelow; and then, i failed to downgrade linux kernel to 4.4LTS because hardware support and almost out-of-tree patches required which do not apply correctly
12:39 SomeH4x0r; are there GCC 4.7.4 maintained forks without shit?
12:39 activelow; not aware of any
12:40 activelow; the problem is linux kernel 5.10LTS, which fails to compile with gcc-4.7.4
12:40 activelow; and 5.10LTS is the kernel series which includes sufficient support for the rockchip ARM SBC i am using
12:42 activelow; anyway, for testing i decided to create a cross-compiler toolchain with gcc-6/7/8.x all of which trigger some bug in a "canadian-cross" compilation setup here
12:43 activelow; which is another surprise such bugs exist
12:44 activelow; at least, i got something to do...
12:45 activelow; instead of argueing about omicron and patented mirancle tincture injections
12:49 activelow; and, i want to downgrade to 32bit ARM only, because i am planning to replace GCC (and llvm/clang alike) with an alternative: such as tinycc and pcc as the only system compiler
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12:50 activelow; again, strange, although cortex-a53 and a-72 support 32bit ARM ISA, no official support exists for this with GNU/Linux and various aarch64 SBC
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13:21 TR News; #[Video] GNOME 42 Demo in Nightly GNOME OS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159512 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:21 TR Bot; [Video] GNOME 42 Demo in Nightly GNOME OS | Tux Machines
13:22 TR News; #Darktable 3.8 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Released as a Massive Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159513 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:22 TR Bot; Darktable 3.8 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Released as a Massive Update | Tux Machines
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13:26 TR News; "I feel that the majority of people say "forget!. We'll stay as we are" ;-)" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007730.html #geminispace #geminiprotocol
13:26 TR Bot; Refering to links?
13:30 TR News; I know #coreboot is not about freedom -- which is what #libreboot exists for -- but hosting on #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware is a slap on the face to anyone who expected #security and decency. #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
13:30 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights
13:31 TR News; Oh, WAIT. My bad. It looks like #coreboot uses #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware only as a mirror. TBH, I see no point to such mirrors as they help Microsoft #monopoly and other abuses.
13:33 TR News; Town very empty today; good for food shopping considering the plague that's raging and #tories want us to think isn't a big deal (as they've lost control of it)
13:33 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.37
13:35 TR News; People who say #covid19 isn't political are intentionally overlooking the fact that mitigation policies are decided by politicians and their oligarchic handlers. Moreover, their surrender to a #patent #cartel on PRE-paid #vaccines is totally unacceptable. Taxpayers shouldered the R&D costs.
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13:35 TR News; The amount of corporate profits made from vaccines should be zero. Yes, zero. #patents #patent #monopoly #grifting #privatisation
13:37 TR News; Today we saved over 150 pounds on the food bill. You only need to know where to go and when.
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13:38 TR News; Jussi Pakkanen: This year receive the gift of a free Meson manual https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2021/12/this-year-receive-gift-of-free-meson.html #meson #programming #coding #freesw
13:38 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: This year receive the gift of a free Meson manual
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13:45 TR News; Irving Wladawsky-Berger (the man who brought #gnu #linux to #ibm decades ago): New Ways of Understanding Human Behavior https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/new-ways-of-understanding-human-behavior.html #irvingwb
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13:45 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: New Ways of Understanding Human Behavior
13:50 TR News; Krita 5.0 Is Out as a New Major Release With a Lot of Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159460#comment-32269
13:50 TR Bot; Krita 5.0 Open-Source Digital Painting Software Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
13:52 TR News; "he vaguely smelled of alcohol, maybe even piss (which is normal for old people) and didn't bother me at all. enter 4 (four!) security guys to escort him out. where's the social conscience of these people?" https://dt.iki.fi/forum-posts-collection
13:52 TR Bot; collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion | dt.iki.fi
13:52 TR News; #Taranis, a major release of Jami Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159514 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:52 TR Bot; Taranis, a major release of Jami | Tux Machines
13:57 TR News; #Debian -Based #siduction 2021.3 Distro Released with Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS, PipeWire Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159515 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:57 TR Bot; Debian-Based siduction 2021.3 Distro Released with Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS, PipeWire | Tux Machines
13:58 TR News; 4 Tools / Extensions to Add Falling Snow Effect on Ubuntu 20.04 /21.10 Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159516 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:58 TR Bot; 4 Tools / Extensions to Add Falling Snow Effect on Ubuntu 20.04 /21.10 Desktop | Tux Machines
14:00 TR News; At long last I've managed to entirely scrub off the #windows logo from my keyboard, which has nothing to do with #microsoft except this worthless print
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14:22 TR News; Alexandre Olivas Open Letter on #RichardStallman Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/
14:22 TR Bot; Alexandre Olivas Open Letter on Richard Stallman | Techrights
14:32 TR News; Darktable 3.8 Released with Huge Set of Changes, New Modules + More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159507#comment-32270
14:32 TR Bot; darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 | Tux Machines
14:34 TR News; 2021 #KDE Eco Sprint Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159517 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming
14:34 TR Bot; 2021 KDE Eco Sprint | Tux Machines
14:35 TR News; #perl Monthly Report - November http://blogs.perl.org/users/mohammad_s_anwar/2021/12/monthly-report---november-3.html #programming
14:35 TR Bot; Report - November | Mohammad S Anwar [blogs.perl.org]
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14:59 TR News; Becky Sterns machine brings the NYC hot dog experience to you | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/24/becky-sterns-machine-brings-the-nyc-hot-dog-experience-anywhere/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
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14:59 TR Bot; Becky Stern's machine brings the NYC hot dog experience to you | Arduino Blog
15:00 TR News; FreeAptitude - Playing with DBus and KDE applications (Part 2) https://freeaptitude.altervista.org/articles/playing-with-dbus-and-kde-applications-part-2.html #freeaptitude #kde #freesw
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15:00 TR Bot; FreeAptitude - Playing with DBus and KDE applications (Part 2)
15:10 TR News; #MedicLog : The personal health logger that everyone needs https://medevel.com/mediclog/ "The application and source code is licensed under GPL-3.0 License."
15:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/mediclog/
15:10 TR Bot; MedicLog: The personal health logger that everyone needs
15:11 TR News; Jrnl: Create your personal journals with style https://medevel.com/jrnl/ "Jrnl is released as free and open-source software under GPL-3.0 License."
15:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/jrnl/
15:11 TR Bot; Jrnl: Create your personal journals with style
15:13 TR News; The person whom many consider to be the heir of #RMS responds to common accusations, which are sadly not based on actual facts Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/
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15:24 TR News; The Most Excellent Non- #Programming Books for Coders https://medevel.com/the-most-excellent-non-programming-books-for-coders/
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15:24 TR Bot; The Most Excellent Non-Programming Books for Coders
15:26 TR News; Top 20 free, Open-source Icon packs for your project https://medevel.com/os-20-icon-fonts/ #sharing
15:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/os-20-icon-fonts/
15:26 TR Bot; Top 20 free, Open-source Icon packs for your project
15:33 TR News; #Darktable 3.8.0 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159507#comment-32271
15:33 TR Bot; darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 | Tux Machines
15:34 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 141.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.34
15:34 TR News; Jami "Taranis" released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159514#comment-32272
15:34 TR Bot; Taranis, a major release of Jami | Tux Machines
15:40 TR News; #FOSSlife promotes hype, buzzwords and even the misnomer/fiction that is #serverless https://www.fosslife.org/introduction-serverless-computing see http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted.../
15:40 TR Bot; Introduction to Serverless Computing
15:40 TR Bot; Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights
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15:48 TR News; "This means that your Debian 11 system will regularly fail to boot." https://the-blogger-spotter.blogspot.com/2021/11/debian-11-is-broken.html?m=1 "P.S.: can you imagine a Microsoft Windows person who would find it conceivable that the system drive, aka (C:), would change its drive letter on each boot? Debian can!"
15:48 TR Bot; Debian 11 is broken
15:48 schestowitz-TR2; psydroid2: ^^
15:49 TR News; "Creating a tenant and adding a first device is the next step once you installed ThingsBoard on Raspberry PI. A simple monitoring task is by checking internal CPU temperature" https://peppe8o.com/thingsboard-and-raspberry-pi-part-2-add-device-telemetry-by-mttq-and-python/
15:50 TR Bot; and Raspberry PI (part 2): Add Device telemetry by MTTQ and Python - peppe8o
15:50 XRevan86; > Debian 11 system will regularly fail to boot.
15:50 XRevan86; Um never rely on /dev/sd* names.
15:51 XRevan86; > THIS IS A HUMONGOUS PROBLEM
15:51 XRevan86; More like not really a problem at all.
15:53 XRevan86; Especially on Debian where /etc/fstab has a friendly description at the start of the file explaining how to add new mount points properly.
15:55 kingoffrance; yeah, freebsd you just use glabel or probably something newer. cant imagine this has been a problem for a decade, 2 decades...
15:56 XRevan86; On Linux one should use either LABEL, UUID or PARTUUID
15:57 MinceR; or use an encrypted volume and /dev/mapper/something
15:59 XRevan86; And just like the description in /etc/fstab on Debian says, just use blkid to determine all these values.
16:01 XRevan86; It's not a problem that a novice would have, because the automatic tools use PARTUUID= or UUID=, it's not a problem that an experienced user would have, because they wouldn't use the unreliable direct device names.
16:01 kingoffrance; my guess is any "server" OS that did scsi had some solution for this
16:02 XRevan86; Deterministic or not, device names were literally never reliable. Add a new drive and suddenly the order changes.
16:09 activelow; was PTUUID the same as PARTUUID?
16:10 activelow; since PTUUID had a huge benefit for me... linux kernel supports it without any initrd containing additional utilities to identify disks
16:10 XRevan86; activelow: It's the UUID of the whole partition table.
16:10 XRevan86; activelow: How is it in any way useful?
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16:10 activelow; XRevan86: because, since i tagged the legacy MBR table with a PTUUID i can boot my system without any initrd
16:11 XRevan86; activelow: I did look for any signs of initramfs in Linux regarding GPT support, and no, I don't see it.
16:11 XRevan86; activelow: But on the same drive PTUUID is going to be the same for every partition.
16:11 activelow; XRevan86: this isn't the question
16:11 activelow; you're confusing something
16:12 activelow; linux kernel itself cannot identify various disks/uuids without an initrd containing additional tools
16:12 XRevan86; activelow: Sure it can, it's not that hard.
16:13 activelow; so, the regular boot flow is linux-kernel->root=initrd->mount /realroot and exec /sbin/init
16:13 XRevan86; activelow: Linux accepts UUIDs as root=
16:13 activelow; what i can do instead is linux-kernel->root=readonly.squashfs
16:13 activelow; XRevan86: yes, but it is the initrd subsystem which identifies disks
16:14 activelow; and if you wanted to remove initrd entirely, for one or another reason, then PTUUID is helpful with it
16:14 XRevan86; activelow: We've been through this, I found the code that identifies the partitions in Linux itself.
16:14 activelow; because then linux kernel itsel can directly mount root=root.squashfs identified by a PTUUID for example, without any initrd
16:15 activelow; it's confusing, somehow
16:15 XRevan86; Meanwhile PTUUID is the UUID of whole partition table, it's not going to point to the rootfs.
16:16 activelow; depends, with x86(64) i jump to isolinux which does the rest, with aarch64 it is uboot and linux kernel
16:16 activelow; and with either now, i can directly boot readonly.squashfs without any initrd in between, which is nice
16:16 activelow; no more GRUB, no more initrd, no more UEFI, none of this
16:17 XRevan86; https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/do_mounts.c#n88 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/block/partitions/efi.c
16:17 TR Bot; do_mounts.c init - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
16:17 TR Bot; efi.c partitions block - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
16:17 XRevan86; This is what I found the last time.
16:17 XRevan86; Just some code to read the GPT partitioning, no external tools, no initramfs.
16:19 activelow; for x86/64 isolinux i do this: ... isohybrid -type 112 -id 0x88888888 (which is the PTUID) for boot.iso
16:19 activelow; and the boot command line is this: ... append root=PARTUUID=88888888-01 rootwait init=/etc/rc.init
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16:20 activelow; without any initrd required anymore
16:21 psydroid4; schestowitz-TR2, Debian 11 is broken, but fortunately Windows has been permanently fixed
16:22 schestowitz-TR2; ian is dead
16:23 schestowitz-TR2; debian is not
16:23 schestowitz-TR2; devuan is not
16:23 schestowitz-TR2; [09:58] <techrights-news> Jaromil: "Today we finished the migration of core infrastructure servers at dyne.org including the ones running this mailinglist and serving #devuan developers with the video conference and crypto pad web applications." https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20211223.170207.6afcad6d.en.html #gnu #linux
16:23 TR Bot; [devuan-dev] [OT] dyne.org server migration
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16:26 MinceR; debian is dead
16:26 activelow; i had rewritten a rc.init script too, and patched kernel to prevent overriding init= parameter; this prevents intercepting the boot process
16:26 MinceR; it's no longer free, it's no longer universal, it's no longer GNU/Linux and it's no longer stable
16:26 activelow; to enforce, /bin/login is *never* circuumvented
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; MinceR: no, it is alive here
16:26 schestowitz-TR2; and many other machines, too
16:26 MinceR; and for the people who actually want it, it's "fragmentation", therefore heresy
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16:27 schestowitz-TR2; debian 10 is stable
16:27 MinceR; sure it is
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; only issues I hear of are from early adopters of 11
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16:27 SomeH4xx; nothing is truly stable
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16:27 MinceR; until you get welcomed to the emergency prompt
16:27 activelow; for root.squashfs i implemented support for custom compression (patched kernel, patched squashfs-tools); and only kernel knows how to extract it's root-filesystem
16:28 MinceR; or you get "a stop job is running" forever on shutdown
16:28 activelow; which isn't encryption, however, i consider it alot of "fun"
16:28 MinceR; or you do an unattended upgrade via cron, which kills cron, which kills the session, which kills the upgrade and fucks up your system
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; sounds like systemd bugs or just systemd, which is a bug
16:29 activelow; the rc.init is 80 lines shell script only, and supports mounting LUKSHOME if available, and too LUKSROOT for a persistence overlayfs
16:29 MinceR; deadian comes with systemd
16:29 *psydroid4 wonders if OpenBSD supports the WiFi on this laptop
16:30 MinceR; and if you try to disinfect your system of it, deadian "developers" do everything they can to sabotage your system
16:31 activelow; the worst "innovation" recently was Debian LTS kernel v5.10 requires yet another gcc-version update
16:32 activelow; until kernel v5.7 the system could be compiled without a c++ compiler (gcc-4.7.4); since Debian(11?) and Kernel v5.10 a c++ compiler (meaning a compiler written in c++ itself) is required
16:32 XRevan86; priorities
16:33 XRevan86; That kernel update is the worst thing that happened to the Debian userbase.
16:33 activelow; not the worst, the most recent fundemental change to what debian was
16:34 activelow; UEFI, Grub and many other things, are, not to my liking
16:34 XRevan86; And C++, I got the idea.
16:35 activelow; not c++ itself, the fact c++ is mandatory now for Kernel and Compiler itself, this is what i reject
16:35 activelow; until kernel v5.7/gcc-4.7.4 a bootable GNU/Linux distro could be created without any c++ involved at all; this changed recently
16:36 activelow; iirc, Torvalds said kernel 5.8 was "biggest release" ever or something... don't remember exactly, why he said it
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16:56 TR News; #Techrights will be posting as usual after dinner http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/inclusive-greetings/ #xmas #businessAsUsual #epo #corruption (videos coming soon)
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17:31 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21121635
17:31 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6098988)
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18:06 MinceR; (cat) (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/799835.mp4
18:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/v/799835.mp4
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18:45 MinceR; (long) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zsvh4iATps
18:45 TR Bot; Japan's Beautiful Post Town | Exploring Magomejuku - YouTube
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19:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR2, THe carjacking of Illinois Senate Majority Leader Kimberly Lightford got better.
19:03 DaemonFC; Her husband is a CCW holder and fired shots at the carjacker while she keeps telling us we need gun bans.
19:04 DaemonFC; Typical Democrat.
19:22 DaemonFC; MinceR, I hit a bug in Fallout 4 a while back while cleaning out that vault full of gangsters.
19:23 DaemonFC; The guy gives you an option to be gone by the time he counts to 10 or they open fire on you, but the button to open the vault wouldn't work until they were all dead.
19:23 DaemonFC; So I went back to a save and tried a couple times, and then gave up and targeted them all with a bunch of grenades before the dialog.
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19:57 schestowitz__[TR]; dinnertime
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20:06 Sweety; hi, i have one question, which os is the best?
20:06 SomeH4x0r; hi
20:07 SomeH4x0r; I invited Sweety here because they thought GNU/Linux is the best, but I told that corporations are attacking it
20:09 SomeH4x0r; so I said BSD variants *might* be good, but I told them to join here and ask to be sure
20:13 activelow; best for what?
20:15 SomeH4x0r; daily usage on PC, I guess?
20:15 *SomeH4x0r waits for Sweety's definition of such usage
20:15 Sweety; not at all, i want to learn programming
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20:30 schestowitz__[TR]; for that, maybe the OS isn't the most important bit
20:31 schestowitz__[TR]; unless you use low-level languages
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20:31 schestowitz__[TR]; which language?
20:33 Sweety; python
20:34 Sweety; is it good langue?
20:34 Sweety; language*
20:37 MinceR; https://abstrusegoose.com/151
20:37 TR Bot; Abstruse Goose | I Don't Get It
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20:40 activelow; a raspberry pi offers many options, with gnu/linux and some other *BSD; and it isn't expensive
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20:44 SomeH4x0r; Sweety: define "good" though. It is good in that it is can be ported anywhere where Python implementation is available, and afaik it should be faster than Java. However, languages like C are ported to way more platforms.
20:45 SomeH4x0r; for "smartphone" development, you need to use different languages; also different languages for "webapp" stuff (though we don't like both of these things here, I assume)
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20:48 Sweety; well, i want to learn game programming
20:48 SomeH4x0r; games differ much
20:49 SomeH4x0r; from well-known text games like tic-tac-toe to "AAA" ones
20:49 Sweety; i want to try with text games
20:50 activelow; a totally crazy idea, although it isn't daily use, BASIC programming was rather common in the 1980s
20:50 activelow; with z80, or mos6502 systems
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20:50 activelow; if i could start again, i would begin with this, and rodney zak "programming z80"
20:51 activelow; it isn't expensive either
20:51 activelow; and should cover, well, the basics to rely upon
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20:52 Sweety; ok, thank you for help
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20:58 SomeH4x0r; I'd want to learn assembly either, but for other reason
20:59 SomeH4x0r; I sometimes encounter software with DRM, probably not much complex, and these programs are not widespread
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20:59 SomeH4x0r; so I want to be able to crack them
21:00 *psydroid2 has been reading a book on 64-bit ARM assembly for the past few days
21:01 SomeH4x0r; though most of them are for Windows, but developers start forgetting about XP, and Vista 7 requires quite a lot disk space. Let it use 20 GB on a virtual machine, and after installing an update pack, it turned out it is not enough.
21:03 activelow; psydroid2: why?
21:03 SomeH4x0r; and I have to use VirtualBox 6.0 because the host (kind of dedicated computer though) does not support hardware virtualization
21:04 activelow; it could be preferrable, to begin with something lower-level than asm: digital circuit design and boolean algebra... which is fundemental for programming
21:05 psydroid2; activelow, because I already know it, but I want to learn more about floating point, NEON SIMD and SVE2 vector programming
21:06 activelow; it could be preferrable, to begin with something lower-level than asm: digital circuit design and boolean algebra... which is fundemental for programming
21:06 activelow; and, some maths
21:08 activelow; SIMD in essence is mostly "instruction level parallelization"; an operation is executed in parallel on multiple registers, to speed-up processing
21:09 activelow; FPU is slightly more complicated, in particular how it is implemented in hardware (mantisse, base, exponent, rounding error minimalization)
21:09 activelow; ironically, the NEON FPU isn't standards compliant...
21:10 psydroid2; I need to (re)read another book on digital system design during these holidays for an exam at the end of next month, but I wanted to get this done before that
21:10 activelow; psydroid2: doesn't this advanced vendor magic distract from the basics required to pass an exam?
21:12 activelow; gladly, i passed the digital circuitry exam, 20 years ago... however since then no interest in this anymore or anyone willing to subsidize this
21:12 activelow; maths are very important
21:12 psydroid2; activelow, they are different things (one for uni, one for myself) and no, I want to learn more especially about vector programming
21:13 activelow; ok, if you're not worried to struggle with the exam due to distraction, then it's ok. i'm only concerned, you'll not loose focus on the important topics
21:16 psydroid2; I only have the holiday seasons in winter and in summer to do anything other than coursework
21:17 psydroid2; and I only have a few chapters left to read, so I'm actually a bit ahead as I've already read half the book since Wednesday
21:18 activelow; i'm not good at multi-tasking, and was fighting for almost three weeks now to repair a cross-compiler, which hasn't finished yet :(
21:18 activelow; to downgrade from aarch64 to aarch32, by coincidence
21:19 activelow; not important
21:20 psydroid2; this same author wrote a book about 32-bit ARM assembly several years ago, but I'll save that for after my exams
21:28 activelow; i remember i brief lecture about float point arithmetics, which i think explains why FPU processing can be very slow
21:28 activelow; almost trivial addition/subtraction etc, can cause severe rounding errors (due to the floating point nature)
21:29 activelow; that's why, small numbers must be added first, to accumulate to a higher binary/decimal position
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21:30 activelow; otherwise, due to the "floating point", their results could be rounded away, when the colon position is shifted
21:31 activelow; and on hardware level, various precision requirements, may or may not introduce many additional clock cycles required
21:31 MinceR; https://abstrusegoose.com/183
21:31 TR Bot; Abstruse Goose | Illusion
21:32 activelow; that's why, for NEON FPU to be fast, the designers might have skipped the strict IEEE FPU requirements, which, i don't know, is somehow cheating
21:33 activelow; intel too cheated, to increase processing speed, with their spectre/meltdown weaknesses, when altering the execution flow, and skipping various permission tests
21:33 activelow; i don't trust any of this
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21:34 activelow; and, it is very annoying, to create a functional cross-compiler, because different FPU implementations for ARM are not compatible and cannot be linked against each other
21:35 psydroid2; I don't know to what extent things have been fixed with SVE2, as that's what I'm planning to use for new chips that are just starting to be shipped
21:35 activelow; ARM isn't "RISC" anymore either
21:35 MinceR; how so?
21:37 activelow; RISC?
21:37 XRevan86; MinceR: It's instruction set is not reduced.
21:37 MinceR; that's not really how RISC works
21:38 activelow; almost a dozen FPU and (incompatible) ISA variants alone, can't be...; the later a72 intorduced out-of-order execution pipeline with a complicated instruction decoder, which isn't paritcularly RISC
21:38 MinceR; it's a particular kind of reduction and a particular theory of what instructions should be in there
21:38 activelow; not to mention the dozens of ERRATA to work-around in linux kernel
21:38 MinceR; afaik it's still a load-store architecture and still uses the rrr instruction format
21:38 MinceR; also, they seem to be moving off the Thumb and Jazelle instruction sets
21:39 psydroid2; most new cores don't support 32-bit execution modes anymore
21:41 activelow; don't think so, at least a53 and a72 support both aarch64 and aarch32 instructions; it is linux kernel which doesn't recognise this, which i try to verify next if i can boot rk3328 and rk3399 SBC as aarch32 system
21:42 psydroid2; I'm talking about A710, X2 etc.
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21:43 activelow; ok. i am not planning to follow along any aarch64 system upgrade anymore; the track record of errata and variants is horrible
21:44 activelow; and many ARM SBC require a distinct firmware compiled... instead of for example compiling some armv6 binaries and then use this as a baseline for almost all available ARM systems
21:44 psydroid2; A710 still supports it, X2 not anymore
21:45 activelow; raspberry Pi 1 was an armv6; currently i chose armv7-hardfloat-musleeabihf with neon-vfp4, which should cover most aarch32 and aarch64 systems (raspberry/broadcom except rpi1, most alwinner and rockchip etc)
21:46 activelow; another reason, to dump ARM, was seeing the mainline integretation status of almost 100 patches for some rockchip required
21:47 activelow; kernel v4.4LTS (which is designated as the first "super long term"), not at least for this the patches did apply correctly, although armbian maintains them, and the choas is scattered across various different vendor repositories on github
21:48 psydroid2; I only have ARMv8-A hardware other than an old "smartphone" that has 32-bit cores, so I haven't really looked into 32-bit software so far
21:49 activelow; my advice: don't waste your time with it
21:49 psydroid2; it looks like a mess with the various ISAs, though
21:50 activelow; the only reason i continue is this: gcc-4.7.4 may be the last GNU compiler i would accept, and kernel 4.4 the last kernel version; and with those at least another 10 years may be feasible, to keep GNU/Linux without any major update anymore
21:51 activelow; i have no hope for RISC-V either, tbh. my opinion.
21:51 psydroid2; there are other ISAs
21:52 activelow; and, if at least i can keep a gentoo... to create cross-compilers as i want to ...
21:52 activelow; the 32bit downgrade is required, because gcc-4.7.4 doesn't support aarch64
21:54 psydroid2; don't any of the other compilers support 64-bit architectures?
21:54 activelow; furthermore, aarch64 has little benefits, because most ARM have 4GiB RAM max.
21:54 activelow; situation is this: kernel versions newer than v5.7 do not compile without a c++ compiler anymore
21:55 activelow; linux kernel now requires at least gcc-4.8 or llvm/clang, which are both written in c++
21:56 activelow; although kernel isn't written in C++, the base system now requires the presence of such a compiler...
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21:56 activelow; which is a similar issue, as Rust in linux kernel... it doesn't belong there
21:57 activelow; furthermore, if at all this is possible without a weeks of dirty hackjob: the desired compilers i wanted (tinycc or PCC) or not c++
21:57 activelow; so, keeping gcc-4.7.4 is somewhat crucial, i think
21:59 activelow; sadly, kernel v5.9 (which i'm at) or later do not compile with this anymore, earlier versions are broken with the rockchip aarch64, and patches didn't apply to kernel 4.4SLTS as they should (although armbian maintains them out-of-tree, not mainlined)
21:59 activelow; as said, i won't follow along with any ARM anymore, i have seen enough of it
22:00 activelow; all i hope, is to keep a stable aarch32 system compiled with gcc-4.7.4 and then next see if PCC or TinyCC suffice as *only* system compiler, to fork away from what "GNU/Linux" mutated into
22:01 activelow; OpenBSD (and others), switched to Clang already (for architectures wich support it)
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22:02 activelow; anyway, with llvm/clang i am seeing another problem again: gentoo/crossdev are the most powerful toolset to create and maintain cross-compilers, and llvm/clang isn't supported by it
22:03 activelow; furthermore, llvm/clang are written in: c++ which is another reason to refrain
22:03 activelow; conclusion: kernel 4.4SLTS and gcc-4.7.4 with gentoo/crossdev are the last line of defense to remain somewhat independent from the recent trends of rustification
22:04 activelow; OpenBSD reported success with PCC, however, OpenBSD isn't as powerful with vendor-independent system integration such as gentoo/crossdev/catalyst/portage are
22:05 psydroid2; what about pcc? does it work for compiling modern sources?
22:05 activelow; it is C99 compliant, OpenBSD reported success year 2007
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22:06 activelow; i think this is very important, my opinion
22:07 activelow; Linux kernel reported success with version 2.6.x and TinyCC too, long time ago
22:07 activelow; however, this is almost irelevant, if the desired kernel version doesn't support, a voila: the desired hardware
22:07 activelow; even if, kernel 2.6 supported aarch32 ISA, the particular SBC isn't supported
22:08 activelow; kernel 4.4LTS is important, because it is designated as "super long term", however, not at least with this some patches maintained by armbian did apply correctly anymore, for the rockchip ARM i am using currently... awesome
22:08 activelow; almost 100 patches, 90 failed
22:09 activelow; and, i didn't test yet, if the system could boot in 32bit mode, instead of 64bit
22:10 activelow; so, next, i'll try to compile and boot a 32bit kernel v5.9 which i am using currently and is know good as 64bit system
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22:11 activelow; already got a 32bit cross-compiler/toolchain for gcc-4.7.4; however i wanted to verify the last known good GCC, and the "canadian cross" of this one is buggy; "awesome" again
22:12 activelow; so, i can rule out potential errors one by one... and finally arrive at a *stable* system
22:12 activelow; because, the c++ dependency of gcc, the linux kernel decision to lock-into the particular version, isn't acceptable for me
22:14 activelow; tinycc might document, which vendor-specific GNU extensions are required, to compile linux kernel... don't know yet; i only want to get rid of GCC entirely
22:14 activelow; sadly, autotools and the portability chaos cannot be avoided; which is another such, i don't know, thank you RMS
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22:19 *psydroid2 gave up on all of this stuff a decade ago
22:22 psydroid2; if you look at what engineers at AMD are up to, the picture doesn't look much better
22:22 psydroid2; it's actually much worse
22:22 psydroid2; https://wccftech.com/amd-epyc-genoa-zen-4-server-cpus-and-sp5-lga-6096-server-platform-details-leaked/
22:22 TR Bot; AMD SP5 Platform, EPYC Genoa CPUs & Zen 4 Core Detailed In Gigabyte's Leaked Documents
22:22 psydroid2; I think they've lost it
22:23 activelow; i've got an older Phenom2 here... not interested in any later x86 system, maybe intel Core2 quadcore with coreboot, not important, it remains powered down... electricity costs are too high
22:25 activelow; well, 96cores is alot, otherwise i am not interested in surveillance equipment monitoring me 24/7, no thanks AMD
22:26 psydroid2; I have x86 laptops which are more power-efficient, but my x86 desktops with chips such as my Phenom also stay powered down 99% of the time
22:28 psydroid2; AMD also seems mostly interested in Windows at this point, just like Intel
22:29 activelow; a raspberry pi with debian offers alot more than any MS IBM Wintel AMD system could
22:36 DaemonFC; More NPR shit about the aggravated armed robber who turned into a "motorist, shot by the police for no reason".
22:36 DaemonFC; Have to keep the race war going. They're sad that the mobs setting fire to Chicago died down all of a sudden. They miss them, you know.
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22:42 MinceR; (cat) https://files.catbox.moe/eetmth.jpg
22:42 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/eetmth.jpg )
22:43 DaemonFC; MinceR, It's dangerous to be a "motorist".
22:43 DaemonFC; Just out minding your own business with 17 open felony warrants.
22:43 DaemonFC; Anything can happen, I tells ya.
22:43 MinceR; it is dangerous to go alone. take this.
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23:19 DaemonFC; https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays
23:19 TR Bot; The Biden Administration Rejected an October Proposal for Free Rapid Tests for the Holidays | Vanity Fair
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