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00:45 TR News; The Psychological Core Of Denver gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1033
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01:05 TR News; systemd-oomd issues on desktop https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-June/042159.html
01:05 TR Bot; systemd-oomd issues on desktop
01:06 TR News; The software operator design pattern: advantages - part 4 | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-4 Source: ubuntu
01:06 TR Bot; software operator design pattern: advantages part 4 | Ubuntu
01:06 TR News; What Is a Stream Deck and Should a Non-Gamer Buy One - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-stream-deck/ Source: maketecheasier
01:06 TR Bot; What Is a Stream Deck and Should a Non-Gamer Buy One - Make Tech Easier
01:19 TR News; "In this article, we are going to see how to set the mouse cursor from bitmap using the PyGame module in Python." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/pygame-set-mouse-cursor-from-bitmap/
01:19 TR Bot; PyGame Set Mouse Cursor from Bitmap - GeeksforGeeks
01:20 TR News; 10 useful vim shortcuts https://catonmat.net/top-10-vim-shortcuts
01:20 TR Bot; 10 useful vim shortcuts
01:21 TR News; DIP1000: Memory Safety in a Modern System Programming Language Pt. 1 https://dlang.org/blog/2022/06/21/dip1000-memory-safety-in-a-modern-system-programming-language-pt-1/
01:21 TR Bot; DIP1000: Memory Safety in a Modern System Programming Language Pt. 1 | The D Blog
01:22 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D622.jpg
01:22 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D271.jpg
01:23 TR News; Sticky Notes and Learning Rust gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-06-23-sticky-notes-and-learning-rust.gmi
01:24 TR News; Lups now counts about 2550 capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
01:42 DaemonFC; I got some natural peanut butter. It was horrible. I almost threw it out except I decided to make peanut butter cookies out of it.
01:43 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR> DaemonFC: sooner or later buyers might put a gnuj/linux distto on those?
01:43 DaemonFC; It's possible I guess.
01:43 DaemonFC; In any event, Microsoft is very concerned.
01:45 schestowitz_TR; right..
01:45 schestowitz_TR; next week we see July numbers
01:45 schestowitz_TR; foir market share
01:45 schestowitz_TR; expect windows to fall some more
01:46 schestowitz_TR; laptop sales have not been good
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02:06 TR News; Installing and Using Rich Package in Python https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/installing-and-using-rich-package-in-python/ Source: geeksforgeeks
02:06 TR Bot; Installing and Using Rich Package in Python - GeeksforGeeks
02:07 TR News; Michael Geist: My Appearance Before the Senate Transport and Communications Committee on Bill C-11: The Senate Starts Review As Bill Receives House Approval https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/06/my-appearance-before-the-senate-transport-and-communications-committee-on-bill-c-11-the-senate-starts-review-as-bill-receives-house-approval/
02:07 TR Bot; My Appearance Before the Senate Transport and Communications Committee on Bill C-11: The Senate Starts Review As Bill Receives House Approval - Michael Geist
02:13 TR News; EPO Staff Surveys Preliminary Results Published (Almost 2,000 Staff Surveyed), Antnio Campinos Less Trustworthy Than Benot Battistelli at Similar Points in Their Terms | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/staff-survey-of-the-epo-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/23/staff-survey-of-the-epo-is-out/
02:13 TR Bot; EPO Staff Surveys Preliminary Results Published (Almost 2,000 Staff Surveyed), Antnio Campinos Less Trustworthy Than Benot Battistelli at Similar Points in Their Terms | Techrights
02:17 TR News; Selected Slides From Technologias EPO Staff Survey (2022 Compared to Prior Years) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/technologia-slides/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/23/technologia-slides/
02:17 TR Bot; Selected Slides From Technologias EPO Staff Survey (2022 Compared to Prior Years) | Techrights
02:23 fuzzy; i think pentagon windows os isn't concerned about windows market share itself, they are concerned about control and dominance by USA over global markets and controlling users
02:25 fuzzy; got some time to spare, woke up 3o'clock, enjoying the silence in the city, and a breeze of fresh air during summer with windows wide open
02:25 fuzzy; no cars, no noise
02:26 schestowitz_TR; good
02:26 schestowitz_TR; better if you live far from a road
02:26 fuzzy; gnu autoconf failed with a toolchain stage build a moment ago... which is somewhat annoying
02:26 schestowitz_TR; then you can hear birds too
02:27 fuzzy; need to start the toolchain build including gcc, which takes another 3hours before i can continue
02:29 fuzzy; then, 7hours ahead, i am invited for an interview at the employment agency
02:30 TR News; [Meme] Council Says... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/epo-admin-council-says/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/23/epo-admin-council-says/
02:30 TR Bot; [Meme] Council Says | Techrights
02:31 fuzzy; yesterday, i did some housekeeping, after pulling into the latest gentoo tree and syncing it against the c-only system profile
02:32 fuzzy; in parallel, followed german parliament debate, and didn't recover yet from this narcist insanity of theirs
02:32 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: maybe 'secure' boot would stand in their way
02:32 fuzzy; yesterday, they announced "Energy Gas Shortage Emergency" phase two in Germany
02:32 schestowitz_TR; supported by mr. security ;-)
02:32 DaemonFC; Putting it in Developer Mode inherently disables that.
02:32 schestowitz_TR; I gave a security lecture toa hospital when I was 22
02:32 schestowitz_TR; and was in fact a computer scientist already
02:33 schestowitz_TR; didn't study genetics though ;-)
02:33 DaemonFC; Google has done far less than Apple or Microsoft have to get in your way of liberating a Chromebook. It's much harder to remove Windows these days than it is Chrome OS.
02:33 schestowitz_TR; Royal Eye Hospital
02:33 schestowitz_TR; the apporoach of wipe on rewboot is a joke
02:33 schestowitz_TR; with a roaming profile
02:33 schestowitz_TR; that might itself contain malware
02:34 schestowitz_TR; so you get the malware back in your clown "drivce"
02:34 fuzzy; vendors too fiddle with Chromebook (ARM) boot firmware
02:34 fuzzy; and the ATF
02:34 schestowitz_TR; of course they do :-)
02:35 fuzzy; often there is two options, to download the binary vendor firmware, which both is suspicious, and often doesn't reveal some internal configuration details for the opensource uboot firmware
02:35 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: at 44 or thereabouts he brags about giving lectures
02:35 schestowitz_TR; as a kid at 22 IU was already giving lectures
02:35 schestowitz_TR; toi igh-profile audiences
02:35 schestowitz_TR; they invited me
02:35 DaemonFC; https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691960628369424394/989507184096313344/unknown.jpeg
02:35 schestowitz_TR; I still have many slides online
02:35 schestowitz_TR; but might take me time to find them
02:35 fuzzy; then those vendor try to trick consumers into downloading, for example, some binary image for DRAM init, instead of publishing the DRAM specification
02:36 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166418
02:36 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
02:36 fuzzy; same with the IntelME, which is required for exactly this, DRAM init, and remains closed-source, even when coreboot is flashed onto an intel board
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-230622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-230622.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022
02:36 fuzzy; similar situation with many (not all) ARM/Chrombooks
02:37 fuzzy; then, often, graphics init requires some driver and/or firmware, or you got no or limited graphics support
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022
02:37 fuzzy; and WiFi chips, those are always blobbed to my knowledge, not aware of any WiFi which could be RYF certified
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022
02:39 TR News; "The piece means something to me, and maybe one other person in this world. Sentimental memories shared with a once close friend, whom it originally belonged to. The friend is a friend no longer, that bridge long burned. Persons no longer who they once were, yet the tokens of seniment, glass and memory, remain." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-23-lizard.gmi
02:40 fuzzy; and i think, all GPS receivers, contain firmware too, including an entire isolated tiny embedded operating system within
02:40 schestowitz_TR; hi, Guest1686
02:40 Guest1686; Hi
02:40 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/alexa-to-add-voices-of-your-deceased-loved-ones/
02:40 TR Bot; Alexa to add voices of your deceased loved ones | WGN-TV
02:40 DaemonFC; Alexa can now add items to the shopping list in the voice of your dead Aunt.
02:40 schestowitz_TR; new ways to market listening devices
02:40 schestowitz_TR; bezos and evil empire ;_)
02:41 schestowitz_TR; using people posthumously for spying
02:41 fuzzy; as soon as a chrombook is equipped with WiFi or GPS, certainly some firmware is implanted somewhere
02:41 schestowitz_TR; chromebooks uses proprietary haredware
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:41 schestowitz_TR; and user-hostile, too
02:42 fuzzy; when developing the c-only system profile and firmware for my cortex a53 boards (typical chromebook or smartphone hardware), too i checked documentation and various android firmware images for those boards
02:42 fuzzy; couldn't say any android would meet bare minimum acceptance criteria
02:43 DaemonFC; John Connor: "There's something wrong with Janelle. She's never this nice." T-800: "What is the dog's name?" John: "Max" T-800 in John's voice: "Hey Janelle, what's wrong with Wolfie? I can hear him crying. Is everything okay?" T-1000 as Janelle: "Everything's fine dear, everything's just fine. Where are you?" *camera pans out to the T-1000 having stabbed the step-dad through the throat* T-800 hangs up: "Your foster parents are dead!".
02:43 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
02:43 DaemonFC; The new Alexa.
02:43 DaemonFC; "There's something wrong with Grandma Harmon. She's never this nice!"
02:43 fuzzy; chatbot scripting again?
02:44 DaemonFC; I really liked that movie. I don't know.
02:44 DaemonFC; I've probably seen it at least ten times.
02:44 Guest1686; Was my bot sending too many messages?
02:44 fuzzy; no
02:44 fuzzy; not yours
02:45 Guest1686; (I mean the _9pfs-pylink one)
02:45 Guest1686; Actually its username is pylink-_9pfs
02:45 Guest1686; Hard to remember bot usernames.
02:45 fuzzy; currently i don't see any pylink-_9pfs had joined the channel
02:46 Guest1686; Check the ban list, or logs from about 2 days ago.
02:46 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/yelp-closing-3-offices-including-chicago-says-remote-work-is-its-future/
02:46 TR Bot; Yelp closing 3 offices including Chicago, says remote work is its future | WGN-TV
02:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, Yelp doing layoffs in disguise, pulling out of Chicago.
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02:48 DaemonFC; At least those that are left will be working from home where they won't be spewing Carbon Monoxide, NO2, and O3 everywhere and running up the price of gas for everyone.
02:50 schestowitz_TR; Guest1686: YOUR BOTS FLOODED THE CHANNEL
02:50 schestowitz_TR; oops
02:50 schestowitz_TR; caps by accident
02:50 Guest1686; Sorry, how bad was it?
02:50 schestowitz_TR; anyway, I had to block them
02:50 Guest1686; Okay.
02:50 schestowitz_TR; in the process I accidentally kicked a longtime member
02:50 schestowitz_TR; so you caused us problems
02:50 Guest1686; Sorry.
02:50 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: seems michael larabel lives in chicago
02:50 schestowitz_TR; but a nice part of it
02:51 schestowitz_TR; oor near chicago
02:51 schestowitz_TR; he said he pays $110 for unlimited broadband
02:51 schestowitz_TR; that's insane, it's like 3-4 times more than we pay
02:51 schestowitz_TR; but maybe he has fibre
02:51 schestowitz_TR; though that too does not cost much here
02:54 mjg59_; Internet access is significantly more expensive in the US than in most of Europe
02:54 mjg59_; I'm fortunate in having a local ISP that only charges $45 a month
02:54 fuzzy; internet is certainly more costly in rural areas than in urban regions
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02:55 fuzzy; the infrastructure, topology, to pull cables into every little village somewhere, that's expensive
02:56 fuzzy; yesterday, vodafone called me, again, for 10th time, among million internet contracts, i am probably the only customer who refused to "upgrade"
02:57 fuzzy; 32mbit/2mbit i got, however, i reject the new contracts, which permit the ISP to do carrier-grade NAT (CGN) for IPv4
02:58 mjg59_; Even in a lot of built up areas, the cable infrastructure is an effective monopoly
02:58 mjg59_; AT&T are trying to get rid of their traditional phone network, so there are rural areas where you can't even get DSL
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
02:59 fuzzy; mjg59_: i studied at Deutsche Telekom btw.
02:59 fuzzy; historically, the Telco networks were different to "the internet"
03:00 fuzzy; AT&T, Telekom etc., they operated SYNCHRONOUS circuit switched networks
03:00 fuzzy; which is another reaons, why it was "monopoly" and supposedly "expensive"
03:00 mjg59_; Yes I understand the difference between circuit switching and packet switching
03:01 fuzzy; not saying synchronous circuit switching, globally, is necessary, just saying this is what AT&T/Telekom etc. offered
03:02 fuzzy; X.25 is another such service (older than the internet), which was common in critical infrastructure, such as railway
03:04 fuzzy; around year 2000, Telco was "liberalized", 20years later german railways is complaining about infrastructure issues
03:04 TR News; Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Increased 68.44% So Far This Month https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/number-of-covid-19-patients-in-hospital-increased-68-44-so-far-this-month/
03:04 TR Bot; Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Increased 68.44% So Far This Month
03:05 fuzzy; anyway, in a few hours, i shall talk about my employment prospects, and income situation at the employment agency
03:05 schestowitz_TR; you have career opportunities
03:06 schestowitz_TR; but need to talk less about politics
03:06 fuzzy; and a lung full of nicotine and dust
03:06 schestowitz_TR; when youy de-registered you had everyone kicked from #techpol
03:06 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 236154 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41289 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 3 weeks 6 days ago
03:06 schestowitz_TR; which caused quite a scene
03:07 fuzzy; doubt it
03:07 fuzzy; there is no activity there
03:07 fuzzy; and i am not involved with politics
03:07 schestowitz_TR; I have a colleague who confronts and wattcks others
03:07 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:07 schestowitz_TR; after getting caust off guard
03:07 schestowitz_TR; missing incidents and such
03:08 schestowitz_TR; I think we might remove him soon
03:08 fuzzy; sorry, sometimes my mind snaps into psychosis, given the insanity, lies and corruption
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:10 IPFS; QmTweJ4nXQtfXHVgJZdLDGsqQhGfYUadfZnLsNyG957hjX
03:10 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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03:11 fuzzy; btw., many security issues are moot to discuss, with X.25 in critical infrastructure
03:11 fuzzy; hackers and script kiddies simply had no access to it
03:11 fuzzy; although, i stumbled upon some reports, SS7 network was pentested, and the IMSI catcher fun
03:12 fuzzy; nonetheless, the telco networks were relatively stable and reliable
03:13 mjg59_; That's not really how it works
03:13 mjg59_; These days almost everything is connected to something that speaks IP
03:14 mjg59_; You're not going to be able to speak X.25 to something directly over the internet, sure
03:14 mjg59_; But that just means you have to breach something that's bridging them
03:14 TR News; "Does what I do here make a difference in other peoples lives? In my life? Is this still scratching the creative itch that it used to? And if not, what needs to change? Where does kottke.org end and Jason begin?" -Kottke, on Sabbatical
03:15 fuzzy; another interesting aspect of Telekom/AT&T engineering, not business, Telco engineering
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03:16 fuzzy; it covered more than what the usual internet/software crowd was aware of
03:16 fuzzy; for example, at AT&T/Telekom, scientists, are far more occupied with mathematics, and electronics
03:17 fuzzy; signal processing, encoding schemes
03:17 fuzzy; which is why, i think, WiFi chips are almost always blobbed and locked
03:18 fuzzy; what's freely available, i think, Hayes 300 modem is a good start, to implement both hardware and software
03:19 fuzzy; i wasn't offended btw.; by the priorities of "free software", it was only irritating those were missing most of what was relevant at Telekom
03:21 fuzzy; got AX.25 with softmodem (via soundcard) on todo for review, as a hobbyist project to entertain myself while "unemployed"
03:22 fuzzy; btw.; digital scopes, are awful, it's all proprietary locked-down systems
03:23 fuzzy; many got some Xilinx Spartan chip for DSP stuff, however, for Xilinx, if at all anyone reached there, a monstrosity of microsoft windows software is necessary
03:24 fuzzy; that's why, the ancient X.25/Z80 era systems remain interesting
03:28 fuzzy; i didn't receive any "energy bonus payment" in germany either, because i am not employed
03:28 fuzzy; in the recent 5years, i collected a protocol plotted onto fanfeed paper for the applications letters i sent
03:29 fuzzy; it is a few dozen meters long
03:29 fuzzy; after 4years, i am invited now, to "discuss the employment situation" of mine
03:31 fuzzy; if i wasn't "cooperative" the income will be reduced by 10%, gradually down to zero
03:36 fuzzy; recently, politicians boasted about Intel, planning to construct some silicon Fab
03:37 fuzzy; i think, they got no idea whom they are dealing with
03:37 DaemonFC; https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2022/6/21/23177687/speed-cameras-threshold-raised-chicago-city-council-finance-committee-vote
03:37 TR Bot; Lightfoot loses vote on speed cameras; final Council vote on Wednesday - Chicago Sun-Times
03:37 DaemonFC; One woman said one of the speed cameras got her going to Starbucks and on the way back, and it turned into a $75 trip for coffee.
03:37 fuzzy; government will subsidize this intel fab with 1billion, another few billions were dumped into a Bosch Fab
03:38 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, Serves her right for getting in the car and burning gas to Starbucks and back.
03:38 DaemonFC; Who the hell can't put coffee and water into some sort of, gee, call it a coffee maker, at home?
03:39 DaemonFC; They sell everything you need to make coffee at the grocery store.
03:39 DaemonFC; Milk, sugar, coffee.
03:39 DaemonFC; Then there is coffee.
03:39 DaemonFC; You don't need to be that asshole who drives to Starbucks and crosses a picket line to pay $7 for a coffee.
03:39 DaemonFC; You really don't.
03:40 DaemonFC; I can't believe how much Starbucks is panicking about this labor union thing.
03:41 DaemonFC; They already sell cups of coffee at 15 times what their input prices are. That's labor, the materials, the cup, the energy, the rent for their stores.
03:41 DaemonFC; They use bulk purchasing power to get it super cheap.
03:42 DaemonFC; And to get it cheaper they have another idea now. They're going to make their customers pay a reusable cup deposit that they get credited back when they return the cup to have it refilled.
03:43 DaemonFC; That way they can make the customers pay for these reusable cups and they don't have to buy disposable cups anymore. They can sterilize them and then you just get another cup and go on your way.
03:43 DaemonFC; But the really sneaky part of this is if you can get a reusable cup into the hands of your customers, then you get more repeat business.
03:43 DaemonFC; Because they feel "buy in" into a system.
03:43 DaemonFC; So it's like these reusable razor handles.
03:44 DaemonFC; Yes, you save money on each blade after you own one, but you can only use their blades with it.
03:44 DaemonFC; Being better for the environment? Maybe a little. I mean, they don't need the disposable cup anymore, but....
03:44 DaemonFC; The real damage to the environment is coming from the coffee itself.
03:45 DaemonFC; Most of the cups are either recycled or made from trees that were planted in order to be harvested for paper later.
03:45 fuzzy; most trees are cut down to plant Palm Oil trees, sugar plants etc... to produce "bio fuels" from
03:45 DaemonFC; But coffee growing is under huge pressure to be cheap, and that pressure promotes things like slash and burn farming and desertification, which are the major problems that Starbucks causes.
03:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, Did you read the latest Billshit?
03:46 DaemonFC; Giant space bubbles as a Lagrangian Point Satellite.
03:47 DaemonFC; The idea is basically this giant space umbrella that stops some solar radiation so we can just keep polluting.
03:47 DaemonFC; I mean, this is so contrived and nobody will ever do it.
03:51 fuzzy; historically the dispute, between AT&T, Unix, BSD and Linux, it is interesting, because, the dispute didn't cover what's relevant to the core business of Telco engineering and science
03:51 fuzzy; of cause, bsd/linux/unix, however you want to namecall this sector, it is important
03:52 fuzzy; however, it is not the core business of telco and science
03:52 fuzzy; such as, for example, a Ti89 type graphing calculator
03:53 fuzzy; don't ask me, where the knowledge and schematics are bit-rotting few decades later
03:53 fuzzy; the TexasInstruments software was not opensource, never
03:54 fuzzy; it's just, pointing into another direction, than what's typically discussed with "free software"
03:57 fuzzy; and, that's why, i find RMS confusing occasionally, because his office at MIT was located close nearby some other departments of his university
03:57 fuzzy; which is, at MIT, signal processing and electronics are lectured too
03:58 fuzzy; anyway, USA is far away, and after 1990, the east-german telco-university was, how should i say, hijacked by the typical US-corporate product portfolio
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 227.41
03:59 fuzzy; in politics, dominated by "the west", who are the 80% majority in germany, they introduced a mindset of arrogance, of the victorious, to dictate terms
03:59 fuzzy; what they had forgotten: east-germany (not glorifying this), got the entire semiconductor business up and running 1990
04:00 fuzzy; east-germany could manufacture all parts for Z80 equivalents, main CPU, serial and parellel io chips, i mean everything, the entire portfolio
04:00 fuzzy; including various transistors and parts
04:00 fuzzy; east-germany could produce all of it, 30years ago
04:06 fuzzy; magnetic tapes, line printers, screens, everything was produced, domestically, with universities nearby maintaining scientific libraries
04:07 fuzzy; coordinated, by the "Academy of Science" (formerly known as prussian academy of science), and the central committee
04:08 fuzzy; what survived the 1990 turmoil, was the central committee mindset and political dictate, the semiconductor business disappeared
04:09 fuzzy; and i remember some rumors, of industrial facilities moving further east, such as Czech Republic
04:10 Guest1686; What is the maximum speed for a bot to send messages on this network? Just checking.
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04:18 fuzzy; anyway, this was another vision, to utilize ordinary audio-chips inside typical consumer hardware
04:19 fuzzy; to implement some software-modem stuff, and transmit AX.25 packet radio with this
04:20 fuzzy; in theory, remaining conservative, 10KHz bandwith should be possible, somehow, which equates to 5KBps on shared medium
04:21 fuzzy; close to hayes 300 era data rates
04:21 fuzzy; some type of free software guerillia packet radio... if there isn't any opensource wifi hardware
04:22 fuzzy; OSI layer1 and OSI layer2...
04:22 fuzzy; most of what "free software" copes with is the higher OSI layers
04:23 fuzzy; at physical and link layer, which is the realm of telco engineering and science, BSD/Linux etc. got little to say
04:24 fuzzy; same with both digital and analog circuitry, and i do not feel confident with the typical CAD tooling
04:24 fuzzy; a list of books and literature, pencil and paper, should suffice, almost
04:26 fuzzy; recently, i noticed again, something went wrong with TeXlive, and TeTex isn't maintained anymore
04:26 fuzzy; the maintainer quit, because of bloat
04:27 fuzzy; because, books, need to be written, and i do not want to write any or typeset with microsoft windows type software
04:27 fuzzy; with unix troff (groff), some problem was, GNU troff, it required c++ somewhere, so i removed it
04:28 fuzzy; the ancient troff implementation, was difficult to compile, i didn't consider this anymore
04:28 fuzzy; however, i found neatroff... cannot say yet if this suffices for some typesetting of maths and formulas
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04:40 fuzzy; seems to be some historical unix stuff, troff, eqn
04:41 fuzzy; i don't know, what to think of this... because when i began studying year 2001
04:41 fuzzy; "microsoft word" already dictated authoring
04:42 fuzzy; and the GNU hacker at german telecom who proposed TeX, this was at a time when TeTex was still maintained
04:42 fuzzy; i mean, someone had sponsored staff, to lecture students authoring with microsoft word at university... what a ridiculous joke
04:43 fuzzy; they didn't at least mention troff/eqn anymore, at the telco university
04:43 fuzzy; too, the telco management had decided, to skip C programming entirely, and given C++ was "standard" already
04:43 fuzzy; ITU-T involved too iirc... some microsoft windows IDE with c++ was introduced
04:45 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjjPlEW9bRM
04:45 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=wjjPlEW9bRM
04:45 fuzzy; thing is, with telecom _management_, besides the western mindset of historical victory
04:45 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | George Carlin - Balance the Budget - Invidious
04:47 fuzzy; i mean, this nonsense was arranged for, directly in german telecom headquarter somewhere, to lecture students
04:48 fuzzy; few days ago, Deutsche Telekom announced they got 1Terrabit optical fibre ready
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04:49 fuzzy; which is fascinating, of cause, however, the entire research and manufecturing, relys upon a globalized scientific complex and industry supply chains
04:49 fuzzy; which i consider _technically_ bancrupt
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05:33 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, June 23, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
05:33 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
05:33 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
05:33 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
05:37 TR News; "The good news is there's a beautiful, almost comforting" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/doing-well/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
05:38 TR Bot; Doing Well - Jim Nielsens Blog
05:38 TR News; "Regardless of whether the title of this blog post is grammatically correct or not..." https://chenhuijing.com/blog/can-we-enterprise-css-grid/ | Source: Chen HuiJing
05:38 TR Bot; Can we enterprise CSS grid?
05:38 TR News; "[...] To start with, systemd is much more than an init system" https://dev1galaxy.org/files/Linux_Magazine_Reprint_Devuan.pdf |
05:39 TR News; "The downside of these and other smart bulbs is that they need to be powered on for voice or app control." https://staceyoniot.com/how-use-both-hue-bulbs-and-lutron-switches-in-your-smart-home/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
05:39 TR Bot; How use both Hue bulbs and Lutron switches in your smart home - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
05:40 TR News; "The first thing I tried was upgrading the firmware on the HBAsfour Broadcom 9405W-16i cards" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/answering-questions-about-petapi | Source: Jeff Geerling
05:40 TR Bot; Answering Questions about the PetaPi | Jeff Geerling
05:40 TR News; "In fact the only downside of the Dev One is the shitty Realtek wireless card it ships with" https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/6/proof-of-life-i-still-have-something-to-say | Source: Jay Little
05:40 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - Proof of Life: I Still Have Something to Say
05:41 TR News; "It is interesting to compare the performance of different web stacks and frameworks under simulated stress." https://yottadb.com/comparing-yottadb-web-framework-performance/ | Source: YottaDB
05:41 TR Bot; YottaDB Web Framework Performance - YottaDB
05:42 TR News; "GitHubs Copilot is trained on software governed by these terms, and it fails to uphold them" https://drewdevault.com/2022/06/23/Copilot-GPL-washing.html | Source: Drew DeVault
05:42 TR Bot; GitHub Copilot and open source laundering
05:43 TR News; "What do all these earlier mistakes have in common?" https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/a-brief-history-of-one-line-fixes | Source: Ted Unangst
05:43 TR Bot; a brief history of one line fixes
05:43 TR News; "The more unpredictable the task is as a function of allocated effort to task completion" https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2022/06/22/Mental-Model-Difficult-Problems-vs.-Hard-Work/ | Source: Ben Congdon
05:43 TR Bot; Mental Model: Difficult Problems vs. Hard Work | Ben Congdon
05:44 TR News; "So, how do we navigate a world filled with harmful chemicals?" https://text.npr.org/1106863211 | Source: NPR
05:44 TR Bot; PFAS 'forever chemicals' are everywhere. Here's what you should know about them
05:45 TR News; "The feature was originally included in Apples word processing software, but got the axe in 2013s version 5.0, when Apple redesigned its iWork suite to give even footing across the iOS, iPadOS, and macOS platforms." https://sixcolors.com/post/2022/06/mail-merge-returns-to-pages-after-nine-years/ |
05:45 TR Bot; Mail Merge returns to Pages after nine years Six Colors
05:46 TR News; "There are people who don't like email forwarding, but I can assure them that it definitely happensThere are people who don't like email forwarding, but I can assure them that it definitely happens" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/DKIMSigningMostlyMandatory | Source: uni Toronto
05:46 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/DKIMSigningMostlyMandatory
05:47 TR News; "had to learn how to produce a high-quality voice with less than a minute of recording versus an hour of recording in the studio." https://thehill.com/homenews/wire/3534512-alexa-to-add-voices-of-your-deceased-loved-ones/ | Source: The Hill
05:47 TR Bot; Alexa to add voices of your deceased loved ones | The Hill
05:47 TR News; "If a person in Western Australia contracts Covid-19, they must remain in home quarantine for the following seven days" https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220616-the-nation-where-your-faceprint-is-already-being-tracked | Source: BBC
05:47 TR Bot; nation where your 'faceprint' is already being tracked - BBC Future
05:48 TR News; "The Swedish DPA (IMY) refuses to take a decision on a GDPR complaint, claiming that the user is not a party to his own rights." https://noyb.eu/en/sweden-users-are-not-party-their-own-privacy-rights | Source: NYOB
05:48 TR Bot; Sweden: Users are not party to their own privacy rights?
05:48 TR News; "More than a 100 new tools were unveiled on Wednesday, including ones to support its plans to push into business-to-business" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/shopify-unveils-new-tools-twitter-tie-up-to-beat-ecommerce-slowdown/92407812 | Source: India Times
05:48 TR Bot; Shopify | Twitter: Shopify unveils new tools, Twitter tie-up to beat ecommerce slowdown, CIO News, ET CIO
05:52 TR News; "Earlier this week I was able to attend sections of the Eighth Workshop on Computing Within Limits." gemini://retrace.club/~mycorrhiza/posts/20220623_limits_solar_protocol.gmi
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06:19 TR News; Microsoft is the wrong platform https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23180813/cryptocurrency-bill-cynthia-lummis-kirsten-gillibrand-github-trolling | Source: The Verge
06:19 TR Bot; Senator posts cryptocurrency bill on GitHub, chaos ensues - The Verge
06:19 TR News; NIST https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/on-the-subversion-of-nist-by-the-nsa.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
06:19 TR Bot; the Subversion of NIST by the NSA - Schneier on Security
06:20 TR News; "Those of us working in the area of technology education should also not shy away from occasions when our contributions to discussions need to be overtly political" https://criticaledtech.com/2022/06/22/ed-tech-is-political-so-what/ | Source: Neil Selwyn
06:20 TR Bot; Ed-Tech is political so what? Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY
06:21 TR News; https
06:24 TR News; "In order to tamp down unionization efforts at multiple Buffalo Starbucks locations" https://text.npr.org/1106868040 | Source: NPR
06:24 TR Bot; Starbucks fired 7 union organizers. The government wants a court to reinstate them
06:26 TR News; Human Made Internet Content Hidden in Plain Sight gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-06-24-human-made-internet-content-hidden-in-plain-sight.gmi
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06:27 TR News; "Federal Communications Commission Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel, speaking at the event, suggested three areas of improvement for spectrum innovation" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/agency-leaders-urge-improvements-to-spectrum-management/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
06:27 TR Bot; Agency Leaders Urge Improvements to Spectrum Management : Broadband Breakfast
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:35 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) collapsing https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3535316-netflix-lays-off-300-employees-in-second-round-of-mass-job-cuts/ | Source: The Hill
06:35 TR Bot; Netflix lays off 300 employees in second round of mass job cuts | The Hill
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06:39 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) for films https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/netflix-cuts-300-employees-new-layoffs-rcna34987 | Source: NBC
06:39 TR Bot; Netflix cuts 300 employees in a new round of layoffs
06:40 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) bubble https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61914167 | Source: BillBC
06:40 TR Bot; Netflix cuts 300 more jobs after subscriptions fall - BBC News
06:40 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) = no future https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflix-cuts-300-employees-in-new-round-of-layoffs-1235157991/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
06:40 TR Bot; Netflix Lays Off 300 Employees In New Round of Cuts The Hollywood Reporter
06:40 TR News; "Nguyen declined to comment on whether Netflix plans additional layoffs in the near term." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23180281/netflix-layoffs-cuts-300-jobs | Source: The Verge
06:40 TR Bot; Netflix cuts around 300 jobs after losing subscribers - The Verge
06:41 TR News; "I think there are more interesting questions here than what exactly is plagiarism" https://walledculture.org/what-exactly-is-plagiarism-and-does-it-really-matter-anyway/ | Source: Walled Culture
06:41 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/what-exactly-is-plagiarism-and-does-it-really-matter-anyway/ )
06:41 TR News; "The complaint claims Bungie brand protection contractor CSC Global sent Minor" https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23180178/bungie-destiny-lawsuit-youtube-fake-dmca-copyright-notice | Source: The Verge
06:41 TR Bot; Bungie sues Destiny YouTuber for sowing chaos with fake copyright strikes - The Verge
06:42 TR News; "Operation 404" https://torrentfreak.com/brazils-targets-metaverse-piracy-in-latest-operation-404-crackdown-220623/ | Source: Torrent Freak
06:42 TR Bot; Targets 'Metaverse' Piracy in Latest "Operation 404" Crackdown * TorrentFreak
06:42 TR News; "A Twitter user who posted copyrighted photos for the purpose of criticizing a private-equity billionaire will retain their anonymity." https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-subpoena-to-unmask-twitter-user-hits-fair-use-constitutional-roadblock-220623/ | Source: Torrent Freak
06:42 TR Bot; Subpoena to Unmask Twitter User Hits Fair Use & Constitutional Roadblock * TorrentFreak
06:43 TR News; "So you used a certain command but cannot remember its exact name anymore?" https://linuxhandbook.com/apropos-command/ | Source: Linux Handbook
06:43 TR Bot; Search for Available Linux Commands With apropos
06:44 TR News; "OpenHW specified that the Core-V MCU features the CV32E40P processor (previously known as the RI5CY) which is a 32 RISC-V core with four-stage pipeline" https://linuxgizmos.com/core-v-development-kit-packs-32-bit-risc-v-core/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
06:44 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/core-v-development-kit-packs-32-bit-risc-v-core/ )
06:44 TR News; "Orbbecs new Femto line consists of three models, the Femto (standard), the Femto W and the Femto Live." https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-introduces-femto-time-of-flight-3d-camera-line/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
06:44 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/orbbec-introduces-femto-time-of-flight-3d-camera-line/ )
06:46 TR News; "Another year, another big Steam Summer Sale." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/steam-summer-sale-2022/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR Bot; Summer Sale 2022 is live so prepare your wallet | GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR News; Steam https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/with-a-quick-script-you-can-run-steam-deck-desktop-mode-inside-gaming-mode/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR Bot; a quick script you can run Steam Deck Desktop Mode inside Gaming Mode | GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR News; "Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop, a community updated and expanded version of the free Alien Swarm originally by Valve continues to see lots of improvements." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/alien-swarm-reactive-drop-devs-detail-their-support-of-proton-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR Bot; Swarm: Reactive Drop devs detail their support of Proton and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR News; "Valve released a fresh upgrade for Proton Experimental on June 22nd which brings even more game compatibility to Linux desktops and Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/proton-experimental-gets-paladins-working-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:46 TR Bot; Experimental gets Paladins working on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
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06:52 TR News; "When you need to connect a Wi-Fi device to the internet and your phone has a good 4G signal" https://puri.sm/posts/how-to-enable-hot-spot-and-tethering-in-pureos-on-your-librem-5/ | Source: Purism
06:52 TR Bot; How to Enable Hot Spot and Tethering in PureOS on Your Librem 5 Purism
06:52 TR News; "Born Punk is a brand new cyberpunk point and click adventure from developer Insert Disk 22." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/cyberpunk-point-and-click-adventure-born-punk-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:52 TR Bot; point and click adventure Born Punk is out now | GamingOnLinux
06:52 TR News; "After some more games that should work great on the Steam Deck and so Linux desktop too?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/fanatical-offering-a-nice-bundle-of-steam-deck-verified-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:52 TR Bot; offering a nice bundle of Steam Deck Verified games | GamingOnLinux
06:53 TR News; "Looks like Valve are getting back into fixing up Team Fortress 2" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/team-fortress-2-gets-a-surprise-update-fixing-many-problems/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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06:53 TR Bot; Fortress 2 gets a surprise update fixing many problems | GamingOnLinux
06:53 TR News; "The mixture of a deckbuilding roguelike with escape-room style puzzles and psychological horror in Inscryption is now officially available for GNU/Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/inscryption-from-daniel-mullins-games-now-supported-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
06:53 TR Bot; from Daniel Mullins Games now supported on Linux | GamingOnLinux
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06:57 TR News; COVID-19 surge in UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/number-of-covid-19-patients-in-hospital-increased-68-44-so-far-this-month/
06:57 TR Bot; Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Increased 68.44% So Far This Month
06:58 TR News; At long last, after a couple of months in the making, the staff survey of the EPO is out (not the one controlled by EPO management with push-polling and trick questions) http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/staff-survey-of-the-epo-is-out/
06:58 TR Bot; EPO Staff Surveys Preliminary Results Published (Almost 2,000 Staff Surveyed), Antnio Campinos Less Trustworthy Than Benot Battistelli at Similar Points in Their Terms | Techrights
06:58 TR News; In spite of the lack of media coverage, EPO insiders (mostly people who have worked at the EPO for quite a while) see the downward spiral in patent quality and they do not trust the management http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/technologia-slides/
06:58 TR Bot; Selected Slides From Technologias EPO Staff Survey (2022 Compared to Prior Years) | Techrights
06:58 TR News; The Administrative Council of the EPO must be kidding itself if it thought replacing Benot Battistelli with his friend Antnio Campinos (and his unqualified or unsuitably unqualified friends from Alicante) would set the EPO on a route to improvement http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/epo-admin-council-says/
06:58 TR Bot; [Meme] Council Says | Techrights
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07:00 TR News; "As they promised they would, AMD has now officially published the source code for FidelityFX Super Resolution 2 (FSR 2) under an open source license." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/amd-publishes-the-source-code-for-fidelityfx-super-resolution-2-fsr-2/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
07:00 TR Bot; publishes the source code for FidelityFX Super Resolution 2 (FSR 2) | GamingOnLinux
07:01 TR News; "The blog series is aligned with the general framework for discussing software design patterns" https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-4 | Source: Ubuntu
07:01 TR Bot; software operator design pattern: advantages part 4 | Ubuntu
07:01 TR News; "How important security is for your application and digital services?" https://ubuntu.com//blog/weave-cybersecurity-into-your-product-design | Source: Ubuntu
07:01 TR Bot; Cybersecurity into your product design | Ubuntu
07:02 TR News; "SUSE Enterprise Linux Server (SLES) is a modern and modular Linux distribution that was developed mainly for servers and mainframes." https://www.tecmint.com/install-suse-linux-enterprise-server/ | Source: TecMint
07:02 TR Bot; How to Install SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP4
07:02 TR News; "In this guide, we explore how you can install and set up Rancher on Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish)" https://www.linuxtechi.com/how-to-install-rancher-on-ubuntu/ | Source: LinuxTechi
07:02 TR Bot; How to Install Rancher on Ubuntu 22.04 (Step by Step)
07:03 TR News; Games: A Lot of Steam, Proton Experimental, and Inscryption Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166419
07:03 TR Bot; Games: A Lot of Steam, Proton Experimental, and Inscryption | Tux Machines
07:03 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166420
07:03 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
07:15 TR News; Links 24/06/2022: FidelityFX Free Software and a Look at PetaPi | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/petapi/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/petapi/
07:15 TR Bot; Links 24/06/2022: FidelityFX Free Software and a Look at PetaPi | Techrights
07:15 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166421
07:15 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
07:16 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166422
07:16 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding leftovers | Tux Machines
07:16 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166423
07:16 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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07:49 TR News; Food Shortage or Economic Crisis https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/23/food_crisis_sanctions_russia_ukraine_climate | Source: Democracy Now
07:49 TR Bot; Food Shortage or Economic Crisis? Experts Say Poverty & Capitalism Are Real Drivers of Global Hunger | Democracy Now!
07:49 TR News; Patents slaughter millions of people https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/23/world_trade_organization_covid_patent_monopolies | Source: Democracy Now
07:49 TR Bot; Global Access to COVID-19 Vaccines & Tests Limited by WTO Deal Pushed by Rich Countries & Big Pharma | Democracy Now!
07:51 TR News; Jeff Yass avoids tax. But Pro Publica takes money from a criminal, who avoids even more tax. The bribes from Bill Gates ruin the credibility of this publisher. https://www.propublica.org/article/how-susquehanna-yass-avoided-billion-taxes
07:51 TR Bot; How Susquehannas Jeff Yass Avoided $1 Billion in Taxes ProPublica
07:51 TR News; Meanwhile Pro Publica bags bribes from the world's biggest polluter, Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/gulf-coast-restoration-fund-mississippi-jobs
07:51 TR Bot; BP Oil Spill Funds in Mississippi Havent Created Many Jobs ProPublica
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07:58 TR News; EFF is dead to me. Recommends Privacy-Infringing Microsoft-Run DuckDuckGo that spies on you!! https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/security-and-privacy-tips-people-seeking-abortion | Source: EFF
07:58 TR Bot; Security and Privacy Tips for People Seeking An Abortion | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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08:00 TR News; Why did EFF leave out Microsoft??? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/bipartisan-digital-advertising-act-would-break-big-trackers | Source: EFF
08:00 TR Bot; The Bipartisan Digital Advertising Act Would Break Up Big Trackers | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:20 TR News; Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/23/while-ceos-make-millions-and-workers-struggle-union-surge-unsurprising | Source: Common Dreams
08:20 TR Bot; Opinion | While CEOs Make Millions and Workers Struggle, Union Surge Is Unsurprising | Brian Wakamo
08:27 TR News; China and Russia https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/23/china-will-decide-the-outcome-of-russia-v-the-west/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:27 TR Bot; Will Decide the Outcome of Russia v. the West scheerpost.com
08:31 TR News; "Amazon Labor Union President Chris Smalls addressed the crowd at the Friday night plenary" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/23/videos-from-the-2022-labor-notes-conference/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:31 TR Bot; from the 2022 Labor Notes Conference scheerpost.com
08:32 TR News; Austerity https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/23/the-feds-austerity-program-to-reduce-wages/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:32 TR Bot; Feds Austerity Program to Reduce Wages scheerpost.com
08:33 TR News; Chipotle https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/23/the-unionization-wave-continues-workers-in-maine-have-organized-the-first-chipotle-store-in-the-country/ | Source: Scheerpost
08:33 TR Bot; Unionization Wave Continues: Workers in Maine Have Organized the First Chipotle Store in the Country scheerpost.com
08:37 TR News; "MIT complains that designing a robot hand is time-consuming and takes a lot of iterations." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/23/design-your-next-robot-hand-in-minutes/ | Source: Hackaday
08:37 TR Bot; Your Next Robot Hand In Minutes | Hackaday
08:38 TR News; Spain and investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/23/spain-demands-eu-withdraw-energy-treaty-undermines-climate-action | Source: Common Dreams
08:38 TR Bot; Spain Demands EU Withdraw From Energy Treaty That Undermines Climate Action
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08:43 matey; <schestowitz_TR> laptop sales have not been good <- if prices are soaring, people probably wait on new laptops
08:44 schestowitz_TR; nce last reset) calculatgood for the planet, too
08:44 schestowitz_TR; good for the planet, too
08:44 matey; yes war is great for the planet
08:44 matey; fewer new laptops, LOADS of tanks running all over europe
08:44 schestowitz_TR; it depopulates too slowly
08:44 schestowitz_TR; from the planet's POV
08:44 matey; im sure the lack of new laptops
08:45 matey; <schestowitz_TR> it depopulates too slowly <- i mean, i have no idea what youre talking about
08:45 matey; the population issue isnt dented by war at all
08:45 schestowitz_TR; it is
08:45 schestowitz_TR; less reproduction and more deaths
08:45 schestowitz_TR; it's not just P-C to say this
08:45 matey; fucking dumb
08:45 schestowitz_TR; in ww2 reproduction almost halted for a bit
08:45 matey; look at the birthrates over the past 50-100 years
08:45 schestowitz_TR; then came "boomers"|
08:45 matey; its exponential
08:45 matey; WAR DOESNT DENT THAT!
08:46 matey; you have a phd, this is the most basic statistical shit you could pray for
08:46 matey; and the war wont last enough to change birth rates
08:46 matey; nor have the past 30 wars
08:46 matey; look up a graph
08:47 matey; it's not just P-C to say this <- basic math has nothing to do with "pc" or not
08:47 matey; the war. doesnt. dent. birthrates.
08:47 matey; on any meaningful scale!
08:47 matey; its not EVEN A blip
08:47 matey; "good for the earth" <- nearly the most ridiculous thing youve ever said
08:48 matey; war is good for the planet! -- roy schestowitz
08:48 matey; christ on a stick
08:48 matey; tank running around aimlessly < new latop
08:48 matey; dum dum dum dum dum
08:49 matey; sometimes i wonder what gumball machine you get your conclusions from
08:50 matey; <schestowitz_TR> in ww2 reproduction almost halted for a bit <- <schestowitz_TR> then came "boomers"| <- EXACTLY
08:50 matey; youre refusting yourself in realtime
08:50 matey; -s
08:51 schestowitz_TR; after about 50 million died
08:51 matey; and then the next generation was bigger than ever
08:51 schestowitz_TR; more than 1% of the world's popultion
08:51 matey; war doesnt affect population growth
08:51 matey; look up the biggest war in terms of deaths ever
08:51 schestowitz_TR; plagues can do more
08:51 schestowitz_TR; like "black death"
08:51 matey; now look at a graph of population growth
08:51 schestowitz_TR; not that I recommend of it
08:51 matey; they dont compare
08:52 matey; plagues seem (mathematically) like a function of overpopulation
08:52 matey; if overpopulation (in other species than humans-- NOT to imply that humans are necessarily different this way)
08:52 matey; if overpopulation is severe enough
08:52 matey; a plague can come along and decimate the species
08:53 matey; its tricky to say if that could happen to the human race, but it shouldnt be impossible
08:53 matey; sort of like global warming, the problem is a sort of chain reaction of events
08:54 matey; global warming can have small causes that trigger disproportional effects on weather / temp conditions
08:54 matey; so a few degress can unleash events that change things much much more
08:54 matey; when you consider food chain / food supply / various other factors
08:54 matey; a plague can have similar devastating multipliers
08:55 matey; not that it necessarily will, but its bad enough that its possible
08:55 matey; it might be reasonable to say that the more overpopulated humans are, the more out of balance other species will be
08:56 matey; and some non-human plague could trigger events that lead to the human populuation falling apart in numbers
08:56 matey; maybe.
08:56 matey; it wouldnt be pretty
08:56 matey; the LESS overpopulated we are, the less ugly that would be
08:56 matey; big numbers arent our friend in that scenario, they are the problem exactly
08:57 schestowitz_TR; birth rates can fall
08:58 schestowitz_TR; when people realise future for kids isn't viable
08:58 matey; yeah, but you have to imagine what it would take for enough people to realise that
08:58 schestowitz_TR; or when these turn from assets into liability
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 matey; lol, kids were always a liability
08:59 schestowitz_TR; matey: many did realise this
08:59 matey; "many" in what proportion
08:59 schestowitz_TR; japan, singapore, china, nordic countries...
08:59 matey; oh yeah
08:59 matey; chinas doing REAL WELL with this
08:59 schestowitz_TR; there used to be more tax benefits raising a kid
08:59 schestowitz_TR; free college still available in some places
09:00 matey; chinas population issue is like a guy whos arm is off trying to stick a little bandage on it
09:00 schestowitz_TR; <techrights-news> Nutritious diet https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/23/paul-and-blackburn-among-gop-senators-opposing-extension-school-meal-program | Source: Common Dreams
09:00 TR Bot; Paul and Blackburn Among GOP Senators Opposing Extension of School Meal Program
09:01 schestowitz_TR; not sure if the china remark was sarcastic
09:01 matey; i bet they cant decide if they want to reel it in so they dont all starve
09:01 matey; or if they want to conquor the earth by breeding
09:01 schestowitz_TR; collectively, as a nation, they already school a lot of ther world
09:01 schestowitz_TR; individually, for people, it is a hellhole
09:01 matey; chinas doing REAL WELL with this <- this at least, was sarcastic
09:04 matey; plagues are the most likely population reducers, but also the most dangerous
09:05 matey; humanity needs an overhaul to survive
09:05 matey; capitalism and stalinist bureaucracies are not up to the task
09:05 matey; both need to be replaced for humanity to end the tailspin
09:05 matey; thats good in a way... because survival necessitates more than reform now
09:06 matey; basically we fix this or we die
09:06 matey; thats probably the only thing that could ever get us to fix it
09:06 matey; and in that sense its a positive
09:06 matey; of course if we fail, thats arguably bad
09:06 matey; depending who you ask
09:06 matey; personally i think fixing it is a good idea
09:07 matey; we havent evolved as a society in a while
09:07 matey; its about time
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11:26 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252552
11:26 TR Bot; Russian Eurovision contestants make anti-war statement
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11:27 TR Bot; Worst Reason To Brush Off Content Moderation Concerns In Antitrust Bills: Eh, The Supreme Court May Destroy 230 Anyway, So It Shouldnt Much Matter | Techdirt
11:27 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/24/member-of-khersons-occupation-government-killed-in-car-explosion-russian-state-media-report-news "Member of Khersons occupation government killed in car explosion, Russian state media report"
11:27 TR Bot; .
11:27 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: : ooof. dangerous
11:27 schestowitz_TR; remember that athelete and lukashenko
11:27 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/24/a78093
11:27 TR Bot; Ukraine Forces to Retreat From Severodonetsk: Governor - The Moscow Times
11:28 schestowitz_TR; retreating from their own country :-(
11:28 XRevan86; schestowitz: I remember well what happened to Protasevich.
11:28 fuzzy; in recent days, occasionally had seen vehicles, with ukrainian flag, in germany
11:29 fuzzy; some of those cars, of those ukrainians who can afford them, seems to me ukraine isn't as "poor" as portrayed
11:29 fuzzy; at least those who arrived with their cars in germany
11:29 fuzzy; even by german standards, this isn't poor war refugees
11:30 fuzzy; it's just, it is ukrainians who proudly present their poverty and reasons to flee ukraine, by flagging their cars with national pride
11:30 XRevan86; "who proudly present their poverty" <- Really now?
11:30 fuzzy; XRevan86: the "energy price" discussion is a political propaganda lie from EU... they are citing EU "spot market" prices
11:31 fuzzy; however, german industry and russia negotiated LONG-TERM contracts independant from this "spot market" nonsense
11:31 schestowitz_TR; how do you know those are not cars of Germans?
11:31 fuzzy; schestowitz_TR: i cannot say for sure, nonetheless they put Ukrainian flags onto their cars
11:31 schestowitz_TR; so?
11:32 schestowitz_TR; lots of polish sites do too
11:32 schestowitz_TR; and americans.. and germans
11:32 schestowitz_TR; some have friends in ukraine
11:32 schestowitz_TR; or spouse originally from ukraine
11:32 *XRevan86 assumed activelow meant vehicle registration plates, but apparently not.
11:32 schestowitz_TR; or from poland
11:32 fuzzy; schestowitz_TR: it slightly contradicts the public image drawn by EU propaganda, of "poor" Ukrianians suffering from Russian aggression
11:32 schestowitz_TR; ukraine is not a rich country
11:32 XRevan86; It's not rich, but it's not dirt poor either.
11:33 schestowitz_TR; the well-off Ukrainians can possibly migrate first
11:33 fuzzy; schestowitz_TR: WRONG, ukraine was known as the richest region of former soviet union
11:33 schestowitz_TR; like Klitschko brothers
11:33 XRevan86; It wasn't, Latvia was richer for instance.
11:34 fuzzy; furthermore, ukraine got rich soil, heavy industry, etc... doesn't mean economy flourished in Ukraine, for whatever reason, and if it is poverty, it is worth to have a look, why....
11:34 schestowitz_TR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_Klitschko I thought he was naturalised as Germany
11:34 TR Bot; Wladimir Klitschko - Wikipedia
11:34 schestowitz_TR; iGerman
11:34 XRevan86; fuzzy: Keep in mind that Ukraine is a mostly agrarian country.
11:34 schestowitz_TR; but it says "Ukrainian"
11:34 schestowitz_TR; born , Kazakh
11:34 fuzzy; XRevan86: wrong, ukraine got scientific institutions, heavy industry, etc. etc. ... and Tchernobyl besides other nuclear plants
11:35 schestowitz_TR; he is in the army now
11:35 fuzzy; XRevan86: Ukraine was/is the third largest nuclear and military force globally
11:35 XRevan86; fuzzy: It's worth to have a look why combatants from Russia came from regions that are so poor to them Ukraine looked like eldorado.
11:36 fuzzy; another fact, about "poor" Ukraine, was, their gas/energy consumption was HIGHEST globally, due to inefficient heating installations etc.
11:36 schestowitz_TR; highest per capita?
11:36 fuzzy; yes, and alltogether energy consumption was excessive
11:37 XRevan86; fuzzy: Like why can't Buryats live better in Russia?
11:37 fuzzy; in particular, Gas
11:39 fuzzy; and there was reports, about population living in eastern Ukraine, who are _not_ opposed to Russia
11:40 fuzzy; because, meanwhile Kiev flourished as a "boom town", former heavy industry regions in eastern ukraine didn't benefit
11:40 XRevan86; fuzzy: There are reports about population living in eastern Ukraine who are opposed to Russia now that it destroyed their lives.
11:40 fuzzy; sure, this is what is reported by EU propaganda
11:41 fuzzy; yet, who is at fault? how stupid are those political leaders, who suggest to shoot with heavy artillery at cities?
11:41 XRevan86; It's such EU propaganda I can't use it here because ye don't speak Russian.
11:43 XRevan86; "who suggest to shoot with heavy artillery at cities?" <- Like that: https://suspilne.media/253261-z-dahu-devatipoverhivki-u-harkovi-znali-500-kilogramovu-rosijsku-aviabombu-foto/ ?
11:43 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://suspilne.media/253261-z-dahu-devatipoverhivki-u-harkovi-znali-500-kilogramovu-rosijsku-aviabombu-foto/ )
11:44 fuzzy; XRevan86: there was various reports, Ukraine shot rockets at russians, since 2014 already
11:44 fuzzy; some photos, supposedly showing russian artillery in action 2022, were in fact photos taken 2014 already
11:45 matey; thats an old trick
11:45 matey; the alt-right uses it on youtube all the time
11:45 matey; i suspect not only the right, but them i know
11:46 XRevan86; fuzzy: I can't refute "something somewhere", what's your point?
11:47 XRevan86; Russia isn't shelling Kharkiv? Didn't shell Mariupol? Siverodonetsk wasn't shelled?
11:47 fuzzy; sorry for the confusion, if there was any; XRevan86, just tried to explain public tv and newspapers are full of propaganda shit, in germany
11:47 fuzzy; meanwhile artillery and military gear is asked for in ukraine, to shoot at russians
11:48 XRevan86; fuzzy: There are also reports that DPR resorts to Orwellian tactics and shoots Donetsk themselves to make people fear Ukraine. From Donetsk itself. It became hell a lot more plausible lately since senseless shelling continues while Ukraine faces a shortage in artillery.
11:48 fuzzy; and the most recent propaganda lie is citing "EU" "spot market" prices were at fault, which is an outrageous propanda lie, because Russia and German Industry negotiated long-term contracts independent from EU and their "spot market"
11:49 schestowitz_TR; fuzzy: can you take it to #techpol ?
11:49 XRevan86; Meanwhile Russia has a shittonne of artillery.
11:49 XRevan86; But that's not proof, just a possibility that hasn't been proven or disproven.
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11:49 mjg59_; Woo next we'll be discussing how Russia didn't shoot down MH17
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11:51 matey; sometimes the topic is free software
11:51 matey; but since thats mostly been taken over by open source, it comes up less often than it used to
11:51 schestowitz_TR; no
11:51 matey; yes
11:51 schestowitz_TR; we are not about free software
11:51 matey; rofl
11:51 schestowitz_TR; it was always about more
11:52 schestowitz_TR; patents mostly
11:52 schestowitz_TR; then software
11:52 schestowitz_TR; monopolies
11:52 schestowitz_TR; privacy etc.
11:52 schestowitz_TR; free software is not even in the site name
11:52 schestowitz_TR; noot free* or soft*
11:52 matey; Free Software Sentry
11:52 schestowitz_TR; RMS suggested it
11:52 XRevan86; mjg59_: I have reason to believe fuzzy does think Russia didn't.
11:52 matey; well he was a sucker
11:52 schestowitz_TR; because he didn't get a name for the site that would promote his own objective
11:53 matey; he should have given the idea to someone who gave a shit about free software instead
11:53 schestowitz_TR; free software is becoming one or more issues
11:53 schestowitz_TR; in light if attacks on the communication layer
11:53 matey; anyway, good to know "we are not about free software"
11:53 fuzzy; XRevan86: i only reject the propaganda image of "evil russians"
11:54 matey; the russians arent the problem
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11:54 fuzzy; furthermore, for decades, documentaries were broadcasted, about russia, many former soviet boxers joined german boxing clubs
11:54 matey; its their fucking government
11:54 fuzzy; i mean, decades, of this, and now "EU" wants to lecture me about evil russians?
11:54 matey; so just so we are clear
11:55 XRevan86; fuzzy: Sure, I don't consider myself evil. Do ye have to employ lies of the Russian propaganda in that?
11:55 matey; "techrights" isnt about free software
11:55 matey; and the only reason it claims to be "free software sentry" is because rms thought it would be nice to mention "free software" somewhere
11:55 TR News; "Democrats have insisted that the two main antitrust bills that have been able to scrape together bipartisan support wont have any impact on content moderation" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/republicans-effectively-admit-that-if-content-moderation-is-written-out-of-antitrust-bills-theyll-pull-their-support/ | Source: Techdirt
11:55 TR Bot; Announce That If Content Moderation Is Written Out Of Antitrust Bills, Theyll Pull Their Support | Techdirt
11:55 matey; and all the times you implied the site was somehow About That were just bullshit and marketing...
11:55 matey; Good To Know
11:55 fuzzy; here we go, another detail: imports of Russian gas into USA _increased_ (according to the Sankt Petersburg site)...; now please explain to me why USA/Washington intend to dictate sanctions against Russian gas supplies into germany?
11:55 schestowitz_TR; look at 2006 posts
11:56 schestowitz_TR; it's about Microsoft-Novell deal
11:56 schestowitz_TR; the main issue then was the patents
11:56 schestowitz_TR; sowftware patents impact all software developers
11:56 XRevan86; "to the Sankt Petersburg site" <- Just call it fscking Anti-Spiegel.
11:56 schestowitz_TR; and harm proprietary software too
11:56 matey; ive archived most of the articles from 2006 to 2020
11:56 matey; plus more recent ones
11:57 matey; theyre in a single text file where i placed the articles i considered most relevant
11:57 matey; hand-picked
11:57 matey; i know what the site is about.
11:57 matey; but since you constantly change your message
11:57 matey; im not surprised to hear this shit now
11:57 schestowitz_TR; afd hates csu and the ccoalition so much that it is willing to make an alliance with putin and rt
11:57 schestowitz_TR; much like gop in usa
11:57 matey; youre a fucking chameleon
11:57 matey; you should have been in marketing
11:57 schestowitz_TR; asking for help from the outside, a "had-been" empire
11:58 schestowitz_TR; we were always mostly about patents
11:58 schestowitz_TR; or, this was the primary theme
11:58 schestowitz_TR; you should know
11:58 schestowitz_TR; you indexed the whole site
11:58 matey; theres A LOT of patent stuff
11:58 XRevan86; fuzzy: The US banned Russian petroleum and gas completely in March.
11:58 matey; yeah, im not denying theres loads of patent stuff
11:58 fuzzy; XRevan86: how then could imports have increased?
11:59 XRevan86; fuzzy: I don't know, especially since the US *exports* natural gas.
11:59 matey; but theres something youre forgetting
11:59 matey; your own narrative
11:59 matey; when it was boycott novell
11:59 matey; obviously quite a lot was about novell
11:59 matey; and yes, even then, patents were a huge issue
11:59 matey; the novell thing was a patent issue
11:59 XRevan86; fuzzy: They don't need Russian natural gas, and Russia provides natural gas through pipelines, it's unable to compress and ship it anywhere anyway.
11:59 matey; but i remember when you rebranded the website
11:59 matey; you SAID what it was about
12:00 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/?stories
12:00 matey; and even if it was mostly about patents
12:00 TR Bot; Techrights | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom
12:00 schestowitz_TR; ""Patents (10,669)
12:00 matey; the rest is just a matter of convenience
12:00 fuzzy; USA were lying about their imports/exports, even the USA energy agency data contradicted what washington announced
12:00 schestowitz_TR; "
12:00 schestowitz_TR; Free/Libre Software (3,278)"
12:00 matey; considering the website is mostly about patents
12:00 XRevan86; fuzzy: Or, here's another possibility, this is just complete nonsense.
12:00 fuzzy; USA does NOT export a surplus of energy/oil/gas, what USA exports _only_ is _refined_ oil/gas products, and to export refinded products, USA must IMPORT first
12:01 fuzzy; and those imports, from Russia, supposedly, increased, meanwhile USA/Washington intend to dictate sanctions
12:01 matey; and considering that 3278 is 30% of 10669
12:01 schestowitz_TR; many are daily links
12:01 matey; id say free software features NOTABLY
12:01 schestowitz_TR; "News Roundup (6,131)"
12:01 matey; i never said it WASNT about patents
12:01 matey; but you saying its not about free software is just a joke
12:01 matey; i mean
12:01 matey; but hey, good to know
12:01 XRevan86; fuzzy:That's just wrong, the US exports shale gas.
12:02 matey; techrights isnt about free software
12:02 matey; it just hijacks that narrative to push whatever
12:02 matey; like open source would generally do
12:02 schestowitz_TR; techrights is about tech rights
12:02 fuzzy; XRevan86: it did, in the past, and the "fracking boom" in USA was projected to end, the prognosis was USA couldn't continue with it for long
12:02 schestowitz_TR; fsf is about (f)ree (s)oftware
12:02 matey; thats what i thought
12:02 schestowitz_TR; fsfe is about german lads
12:02 matey; not anymore
12:02 schestowitz_TR; who abuse the word of grve
12:02 schestowitz_TR; *greve
12:02 schestowitz_TR; and the org of RMAS
12:03 schestowitz_TR; *RMS
12:03 schestowitz_TR; and infringe the agreement on trademarks
12:03 schestowitz_TR; if they were trademark nazis, they would go all KISS
12:03 schestowitz_TR; with "intellectual property" over the SS
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12:04 XRevan86; fuzzy: Fracking and shale gas are not the same thing.
12:04 TR News; Frontex https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/23/new-pre-authorization-system-profiling-of-passengers-could-also-be-banned-for-frontex/ | Source: Site36
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12:04 fuzzy; XRevan86: oil and gas can be refined; even dirty brown coal can be refined into oil and gas (Buna, East-Germany did this)
12:05 fuzzy; whatever USA imports or exports, certainly USA never had an energy export suprlus, it's a propaganda lie from washington
12:06 XRevan86; https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports-of-petroleum stumbled upon this
12:06 TR Bot; United States Imports of Petroleum - May 2022 Data - 1989-2021 Historical
12:06 fuzzy; all i am saying, i am very curious to know, exactly which energy products are imported by USA, and from where
12:07 fuzzy; and just if, imagine this, a war ignites in Ukraine, USA imports energy from Russia, and intends to sanction elsewhere, just what if...
12:07 fuzzy; what i know for sure is this only, "EU" public tv and newspapers are full of propaganda shit, wherever it is produced
12:07 fuzzy; and it isn't Russian propaganda shit, it is originating elsewhere
12:08 XRevan86; fuzzy: https://whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/03/08/fact-sheet-united-states-bans-imports-of-russian-oil-liquefied-natural-gas-and-coal/ this never happened?
12:08 TR Bot; FACT SHEET: United States Bans Imports of Russian Oil, Liquefied Natural Gas, and Coal | The White House
12:08 fuzzy; XRevan86: what is it then, Ukrainian energy products? Burisma/London/Biddler Joe?
12:09 XRevan86; fuzzy: The US doesn't have a literal pipeline from Russia, they were never as dependent on Russian fuel as the EU.
12:09 fuzzy; XRevan86: btw. PartyBoJo announced he expects a prolonged war in Ukraine. it was PartyBoJo who said this, not Putin.
12:09 matey; "Of course we welcome examiners to join our fight for Software Freedom, which extends to a fight for justice." http://techrights.org/2021/06/07/against-malicious-software/ The Correlation Between Software Freedom and Universal Justice
12:09 TR Bot; The Correlation Between Software Freedom and Universal Justice | Techrights
12:09 XRevan86; fuzzy: And?
12:10 matey; 06/24/22 10:51 <schestowitz_TR> we are not about free software 06/24/22 10:52 <schestowitz_TR> free software is not even in the site name
12:10 XRevan86; fuzzy: I give some news from Russia and Ukraine here daily. It should be obvious that the war is going to be prolonged.
12:11 XRevan86; Russia is advancing 2km a month, Ukraine's counter-attacks are not that impressive either.
12:12 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dxCjpEc66Dw
12:12 TR Bot; Anything Goes - Invidious
12:13 matey; ok youtube
12:13 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=r7NJ9ylAhos
12:13 TR Bot; Anything Goes - Cole Porter (with lyrics) - Invidious
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12:20 matey; "The Free Software Movement will survive this. *We* have a much more powerful message than the lies of corporate operatives." http://techrights.org/2021/05/05/failed-coup-vs-fsf/
12:20 TR Bot; Lessons From Another Failed Coup Against the Free Software Movement | Techrights
12:20 matey; /me shrugs
12:21 schestowitz_TR; that's what you found to refuse with?
12:22 matey; oh no, im just looking for things that CLEARLY IMPLY techrights WAS about free software
12:22 matey; ive found two things that go against what youre saying now
12:22 matey; So Far
12:22 schestowitz_TR; we stand for many things inc. net neutrality
12:22 matey; thats not what im refuting
12:22 schestowitz_TR; it'\s even on the banner in the front page (sidebar)
12:22 matey; i just think its ridiculous that when i said sometimes free software is the topic
12:23 matey; you spit out that its Not About
12:23 schestowitz_TR; techrights channel is about techa nd rights
12:23 matey; it'\s even on the banner <- so is the gnu lgoo
12:23 matey; yeah
12:23 matey; its just when you say some nonsenses like "techrights isnt about free software"
12:23 schestowitz_TR; latest link was: "Profiling of passengers could also be banned for Frontex Security Architectures in the EU"
12:24 schestowitz_TR; it's about tech
12:24 schestowitz_TR; and passengers' basic rights
12:24 schestowitz_TR; we also cover epo that's about labour rights AND patents
12:24 schestowitz_TR; some call it "patent rights"
12:24 schestowitz_TR; which is false
12:24 schestowitz_TR; the US courts refuted this narrative
12:25 schestowitz_TR; sharing are more like rights than monopolies are
12:26 TR News; A RISC-V laptop or mini PC with Rockchip RK3588-class performance may be coming soon Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166424
12:26 TR Bot; A RISC-V laptop or mini PC with Rockchip RK3588-class performance may be coming soon | Tux Machines
12:26 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Visual Studio Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166425
12:26 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Visual Studio | Tux Machines
12:26 TR News; Interview with German Scholarship student Julian Hbenthal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166426
12:26 TR Bot; Interview with German Scholarship student Julian Hbenthal | Tux Machines
12:26 matey; Techrights basically watches and reports on threats to software freedom and if that freedom is under attack, then its only likely that interest will grow. Techrights is of course cheering for freedom (and for rights; its even in the sites name), but when things go awry we try to be objective about it.
12:27 matey; i mean you just change your story when it suits you
12:27 matey; let me find the url for that one
12:27 TR News; Tech conferences for grown-ups https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2022/06/22/tech-conferences-for-grown-ups-00041464
12:27 TR Bot; conferences for grown-ups- POLITICO
12:28 matey; im not trying to take anything out of context here
12:28 matey; you say things clearly intended to give certain impressions
12:28 fuzzy; btw. today i asked at the employment agency, for some office space...
12:28 matey; later when that no longer does anything for you, you shift the narrative
12:28 matey; not the focus-- the premise!
12:29 matey; "THE Web site Techrights bears a motto/byline inspired or suggested by Richard Stallman almost a decade ago." http://techrights.org/2019/12/29/strong-year-for-techrights/ 2019 Was a Strong Year for Techrights
12:29 TR Bot; 2019 Was a Strong Year for Techrights | Techrights
12:30 matey; i mean the motto is in latin
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:30 matey; bonum certament certa-- something like "truth for truths sake" (i dont know latin)
12:33 fuzzy; as far as rights are concerned... i mean, some office space
12:33 fuzzy; and then, i told them, i got enough work to do, to hire staff
12:33 fuzzy; quality jobs, not bullshit jobs
12:34 fuzzy; somewhat ironic, if some unemployed east-german nazi scum talks about mathematics, computers, and economic prospects
12:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166427
12:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
12:36 fuzzy; then i tried to explain, there is nothing wrong with vacancies, although i knew for myself what's important and what isn't
12:36 fuzzy; and, i need some office space, and need to hire staff
12:37 fuzzy; i mean, if they dump billions to subsidize intel to plant their consumer crap fabs into east germany
12:37 TR News; "Because of the TNSR architecture and fast vector processing capabilities in VPP, the WireGuard implementation in TNSR is much faster than the standard in kernel Ubuntu / Linux WireGuard implementations." https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/578186670/netgate-releases-tnsr-high-performance-router-version-22-06
12:37 TR Bot; Netgate Releases TNSR High Performance Router Version 22.06 - EIN Presswire
12:37 matey; the last one i found said "we need unity in OUR movement" though that was a guest post so it hardly counts
12:37 matey; of course guest posts are funny
12:38 matey; guest posts are funny because when roy mentions contents from them he will often say "we"
12:38 matey; but when any guest post author makes an assertion like the one im making now
12:38 matey; its "oh thats a guest post"
12:38 matey; its like "whats yours is mine and whats ours is also mine"
12:39 schestowitz_TR; it would be worse if I used "i" or "me"
12:39 matey; mmhmm
12:39 schestowitz_TR; but now you are pronoun-mining
12:39 schestowitz_TR; brb
12:40 matey; no, im pointing out a trend of appropriation and narrative shifting
12:40 schestowitz_TR; you are fighing over relatively minor semzntic things
12:40 matey; and noting that this guest post had a line i thought was relevant, but then i noted the author so im not including that one
12:41 schestowitz_TR; you are nitpicking
12:41 schestowitz_TR; I've said we for agggeeees
12:41 schestowitz_TR; bbiab
12:41 schestowitz_TR; no need to fight over such minotr stuff
12:41 TR News; "Multispectral imaging, or photography using wavelengths other than those in ordinary visible light" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/23/hackaday-prize-2022-multispectral-smartphone-camera-reveals-paintings-inner-secrets/ | Source: Hackaday
12:41 TR Bot; Prize 2022: Multispectral Smartphone Camera Reveals Paintings Inner Secrets | Hackaday
12:42 SomeH4x0r; or just buy a proper camera
12:42 TR News; Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/23/a-letter-to-biden-on-assanges-extradition/ | Source: Counter Punch
12:42 TR Bot; Open Letter to Biden on Assange's Extradition - CounterPunch.org
12:43 SomeH4x0r; > minor stuff | boiling frog
12:43 SomeH4x0r; you ruin it by introducing minor stuff over time
12:43 schestowitz_TR; naa
12:43 schestowitz_TR; he is not diaagreeing with the message
12:43 schestowitz_TR; but with some pronouns here and there
12:43 schestowitz_TR; and it leads to a lot of infighting
12:44 schestowitz_TR; we have over 100 contributors
12:44 schestowitz_TR; if you include sources
12:44 schestowitz_TR; whom we quote
12:44 schestowitz_TR; and people who send us material like leaked docs
12:45 matey; im not quoting quotes, only things you wrote yourself
12:45 matey; thats why the urls are cited here
12:46 matey; and im only looking at lines that have "we" and "free software" in the same line-- this doesnt even have hits for "techrights" and "free software"
12:46 matey; i could probably do this for the next few hours
12:46 matey; obviously today you feel like downplaying the connection between techrights and free software
12:46 matey; but later when it suits you, youll go in the other direction
12:47 matey; ive seen you flip-flop completely on things, but this is more like massaging the context
12:48 matey; imo it says more about whats on your mind than what youve even written
12:48 matey; youre moving farther from free software in your head
12:48 matey; later youll move closer to it again
12:48 matey; either way, your rhetoric changes with the wind, and thats the point im making
12:48 matey; (not for the first time)
12:49 matey; its one thing to change your views-- i do that, so does everyone else
12:49 matey; its another to move around with such flight that there clearly isnt a position, just the appearance of one
12:49 matey; thats a politician thing, and you either do that or you dont
12:50 matey; when people do that, consistency is shallow and much of it is comical
12:50 matey; because it becomes a bit of a farce
12:51 matey; same thing happened when the fsf put pressure on you
12:51 matey; you moved away from your own narrative to suck up to the wrong people there
12:51 matey; later when the dust had settled, you moved back to being critical
12:52 matey; people call you on it, youre slippery, like today
12:52 matey; handwavey denials and... i mean its never going to NOT be like this
12:52 matey; you dont waver on epo stuff though
12:52 TR News; Solana Saga: Essential Devs Now Have A New Phone For You Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166428
12:52 TR Bot; Solana Saga: Essential Devs Now Have A New Phone For You | Tux Machines
12:52 matey; as far as i know, its too dull for me to follow closely
12:53 matey; so maybe thats the only part of this you actually give a damn about (for whatever reason)
12:53 matey; i never call you on it, because i would be asleep before i could find anything to critique
12:53 matey; not yoru fault that patents are boring
12:53 matey; they just are
12:54 matey; some of its very important of course-- boring though it may be
12:54 matey; patents are used to attack free sw obviously
12:55 matey; but in the past 5 years ive seen only a couple trends that seem that important
12:55 matey; maybe others LOOKED important and proved less so, i dont know
12:55 matey; obviously gnome selling out on patents was awful
12:55 matey; that was one story
12:55 matey; and the other (not new) is microsoft cashing in on things like android / usb
12:55 matey; so you try to buy not-microsoft, they get paid anyway
12:56 matey; those are the biggest patent stories i know since alice and acta
12:56 matey; maybe theres others, but in terms of actual hurt to free sw (not just threats on the horizon) those seem to be the big two
12:56 matey; only so much you can say about those
12:56 matey; the ibm gcc story is way bigger
12:57 matey; but thats copyright, not patents, so...
12:57 matey; /me shrugs
12:58 matey; i think the narrative simply fits whoever youre trying to ingratiate yourself with at the moment
12:58 matey; when it was the fsf, thats where the narrative went
12:58 matey; then when that was done, it went back in the direction it was headed in before
12:58 matey; thats the pattern i see over and over
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
12:59 matey; but its not hard to get away from someone pointing it out
12:59 matey; radar missile lock, pilot releases chaff
12:59 matey; heat missile lock, pilot releases flares
12:59 matey; heavy critique of integrity? author releases noise
13:00 matey; it hasnt failed, i dont expect it to
13:00 matey; we both know that proof would require investment
13:00 matey; and no one has the attention span for it
13:01 matey; therefore, its a non-issue
13:01 matey; or as you say "we move on"
13:03 TR News; Social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/california-seems-to-be-taking-the-exact-wrong-lessons-from-texas-and-floridas-social-media-censorship-laws/ | Source: Techdirt
13:03 TR Bot; Seems To Be Taking The Exact Wrong Lessons From Texas And Floridas Social Media Censorship Laws | Techdirt
13:03 matey; "Richard Stallman once said: 'Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it.' http://techrights.org/2012/12/09/fsf-on-ubuntu/
13:03 TR Bot; The Story Behind Criticising Ubuntus Privacy Settings | Techrights
13:04 matey; it doesnt have to per se, but i think it does
13:04 matey; come down to which one of us is the idiot.
13:08 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166429
13:08 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:15 TR News; TikTok Privacy https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/the-myopic-focus-on-tiktok-privacy-issues-remains-kind-of-weird/ | Source: Techdirt
13:15 TR Bot; Myopic Focus On TikTok Privacy Issues Remains Kind Of Weird | Techdirt
13:27 TR News; SpiralLinux Is a New Debian-Based Distro from the GeckoLinux Creator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166246#comment-34119
13:27 TR Bot; SpiralLinux: Creator of GeckoLinux emits new Debian remix | Tux Machines
13:27 TR News; OSOMs OV1 is now Solanas web3 Android handset, Saga http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166428#comment-34120
13:27 TR Bot; Solana Saga: Essential Devs Now Have A New Phone For You | Tux Machines
13:28 fuzzy; anyway, i asked at employment agency, for some office space, with the remark, "hey, got some jobs for you"
13:28 fuzzy; no, no bullshit jobs
13:28 fuzzy; huh
13:29 fuzzy; hey, why does Intel receive billions of subsidies in east-germany to plant their consumer crap plants?
13:30 fuzzy; pardon? east-germany? MY HOMELAND... you want to dump billions of subsidies into Intel consumer crap?
13:30 fuzzy; i demand some office space!!!
13:30 fuzzy; I, got some quality jobs.
13:30 matey; "why does Intel receive billions of subsidies in east-germany"
13:30 fuzzy; I, do not need you to tell me what to do.
13:31 fuzzy; I, I got some quality jobs.
13:31 fuzzy; I got them.
13:31 matey; because politicians sell out their constituants and suck up to corporations and people with more money
13:31 fuzzy; btw. i had welcomed company from silicon valley, although, it was NOT INTEL!!!!
13:31 TR News; "Since we all see plenty of ASCII art in Geminispace but nobody talks about how to make any, I figured this might be more interesting than my least interesting post here." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~adiabatic/ascii-art/iphone/
13:31 fuzzy; for example, i had asked Lattice Semi and Zilog.
13:31 fuzzy; Lattice and Zilog: YOU ARE WELCOME.
13:31 fuzzy; Intel: FUCK YOU. GET THE FUCK OUT.
13:32 matey; theres money for them
13:32 matey; they want money
13:32 fuzzy; it is my homeland. i decide, who is welcome and who is not.
13:32 TR News; Links 24/06/2022: Mostly Political Catchup | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/political-catchup/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/political-catchup/
13:32 TR Bot; Links 24/06/2022: Mostly Political Catchup | Techrights
13:32 matey; if you dont want ducks, dont throw bread
13:32 matey; it is my homeland. i decide <- apparently someone has decided in your stead
13:32 fuzzy; before 1990, we got nukes
13:33 matey; a pretender to the throne?
13:33 fuzzy; sadly, i haven't got them, when intel arrives
13:34 fuzzy; and the policitians, who decide, who is welcomed, and who isn't
13:35 fuzzy; because, i am NOT anti USA or anything
13:35 fuzzy; it is only this, i can distinguish, who acts in good faith, and who isn't
13:36 fuzzy; 1 billion Euros of subsidies for the Intel kikes
13:36 fuzzy; thats 4 billion Reichsmark
13:36 fuzzy; hey, Zilog, Lattice, what would you do with 4 billion Reichsmark?
13:37 fuzzy; so, imagine this, i was a politician, who decided, who received, 4 billion Reichsmark, I decide, in MY HOMELAND
13:37 fuzzy; 4 billion Reichsmark
13:37 fuzzy; this is alot of cash
13:37 fuzzy; and then, i tell you, what to do
13:38 fuzzy; guess what, who decides? about MY HOMELAND? who is it?
13:38 fuzzy; then they say, racist nazi... me? no.
13:39 matey; the reason they mistake you for a nazi is that you support a party that uses rhetoric about your "homeland" to get people to support policies that...
13:39 fuzzy; the difference however is this: i am willing to nuke out intel and microsoft and ibm. get the fuck out of my homeland.
13:40 matey; well, it all hinges on whether afd is ultimately white supremacist
13:40 matey; they want to keep people out of germany, keep it german
13:40 fuzzy; pardon?
13:40 matey; apparently they lean on racist / populist rhetoric to achieve this goal
13:40 fuzzy; i mean, maybe, you could learn something, from german language, and germans?
13:41 fuzzy; and too, russians, maybe, i mean, Bronstein Mathematics.
13:41 matey; yeah well, dont count on TOO MUCH sympathy there
13:41 matey; my family fled germany
13:41 matey; so
13:41 matey; and too, russians, maybe <- no idea what that even means
13:42 matey; my family fled germany as odds are they would have been killed if they didnt
13:42 fuzzy; well, you see.
13:42 matey; lol
13:42 fuzzy; my family
13:44 fuzzy; my grandfather, from Leipzig, he was among the first to protest, 1990.
13:44 fuzzy; guess why matey ?
13:44 fuzzy; want to know why ?
13:44 matey; might as well say why
13:44 fuzzy; ok, the eugenics racist spook, it didn't end in 1945
13:45 matey; i mean there are lots of eugenicists, sadly
13:45 fuzzy; my grandfather, from leipzig, he had dark hair and dark eyes, and my grandmother was a blonde beast
13:45 fuzzy; and they, fell in love, my grandmother, she told me, he loved him
13:45 matey; alright
13:46 fuzzy; ok... so, some bureaucrats, tried to prevent, they married...
13:46 fuzzy; after 1945... they were married for 50years or something
13:46 matey; ok
13:47 fuzzy; although, i must admit, my grandparents, they were socialized, as hitler youth
13:47 fuzzy; this is an undeniable fact
13:47 matey; that was a difficult group to stay out of if you wanted to
13:47 fuzzy; so, what is german, what isn't?
13:47 matey; indeed
13:48 matey; the simplest definition is that someone born in, naturalised in, or allowed asylum in germany, is german though
13:48 fuzzy; my grandmother, Waltraud, she told me, she knew many "jews", and she said, anyone claiming, among germans, they wouldn't knew, what happened
13:48 fuzzy; those, they are lying
13:48 matey; maybe asylum in germany doesnt count until youre a naturalised citizen
13:49 matey; she knew many "jews", and she said, anyone claiming, among germans, they wouldn't knew, what happened <- eh?
13:49 matey; those, they are lying <- i dont follow your meaning here
13:49 fuzzy; after 1945 many "germans" argued they didn't know what happened
13:49 fuzzy; my grandmother, Waltraud is her name, she told, that's impossible
13:49 matey; thats true, many argued that
13:49 fuzzy; EVERYONE MUST HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE CRIMES
13:50 matey; everyone?
13:50 fuzzy; YES
13:50 matey; how?
13:50 fuzzy; she said, it was IMPOSSIBLE, to not know what happened, this is what she said
13:50 matey; ok
13:50 matey; so basically, what youre saying is
13:51 fuzzy; i am saying, nowadays, i am accused of being "nazi" whatever
13:51 matey; you come from a line of people who knew the actions in the earlier part of the century were atrocities
13:51 fuzzy; or racist, it's all insults and lies
13:51 matey; by association perhaps
13:51 matey; maybe its unfair
13:51 fuzzy; it is propaganda lies
13:52 matey; but the accusations at afd at least
13:52 fuzzy; and, i knew some other relatives, such as Uncle Horst
13:52 matey; seem to have substance
13:52 fuzzy; because, those people, they had names
13:52 fuzzy; german names
13:53 fuzzy; and, who were the victims? and who had benefit?
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13:53 fuzzy; all i am saying is this: I DECIDE WHO IS WELCOMED IN MY HOMELAND AND WHO IS NOT
13:53 matey; youre not being very clear here
13:53 matey; ok
13:54 fuzzy; and if not, what then?
13:54 matey; it seems a bit like part of an argument
13:54 matey; the rest of which has not been presented
13:54 fuzzy; just as said, east-germany, dismantled
13:55 fuzzy; if it didn't and Intel arrived, i would nuke them
13:55 fuzzy; instead, we got a government here, which subsidize them, with billions of cash
13:56 fuzzy; i would pull the trigger myself, even if they wanted to hang me for doing it
13:56 fuzzy; i would pull the trigger to nuke intel
13:57 fuzzy; instead, the "german" government nowadays, intends to subsidize them with billions of cash
13:57 fuzzy; 4 billion Reichsmark
13:57 fuzzy; imagine this, what i could do with 4 billion Reichsmark?
13:58 fuzzy; instead, i couldn't at least afford some tiniest office and lab space in MY OWN HOMELAND
13:58 fuzzy; discuss.
13:58 matey; how many people live in germany?
13:58 fuzzy; germans?
13:58 matey; whatever you like
13:59 matey; how many?
13:59 fuzzy; 83million
13:59 fuzzy; although, that's NOT germany anymore, to my understanding
13:59 fuzzy; german population, don't knoew, a few hundred thousand something
14:01 matey; the thing is
14:01 matey; im sure im doing something wrong here
14:01 matey; when i multiply 83million times 48.20
14:02 matey; i get 4 billion
14:02 matey; and while im sure thats not right
14:02 matey; youre asking what you could do with 4 billion
14:02 matey; shouldnt you be asking what you could do with 50.00 or something closer to that?
14:02 matey; not that i think it should go to intel
14:03 matey; i dont like them any more than you do
14:03 matey; but even if my figures are wrong, theyre probably closer than your 4 billion
14:03 fuzzy; pardon? it is german government who wastes 4 billion reichsmark on intel, not me
14:03 matey; well yeah but its your money right?
14:03 fuzzy; instead, i would have welcomes Zilog and Lattice, NOT intel
14:04 fuzzy; too, i had welcomed Hitache/J-core/SuperH, NOT intel
14:04 fuzzy; matey: it is MY HOMELAND
14:04 fuzzy; I DECIDE
14:04 matey; i think either would need more thn 50 reichsmark
14:05 fuzzy; 4 billion, this is what they waste, for Intel, only for Intel
14:05 matey; divided by 83 million
14:05 matey; is what?
14:05 fuzzy; pardon?
14:06 matey; whats 4b divided by 83m
14:06 fuzzy; Lattice was almost bancrupt, due to lack of funding of a few millions
14:06 fuzzy; Lattice: YOU ARE WELCOME
14:06 fuzzy; Intel: get the fuck out
14:06 fuzzy; Lattice: what would you do, with 4 billion reichsmark?
14:07 matey; what do you suppose the other 82,999,999 germans want
14:07 fuzzy; yerk off with Netflix FullHD porn streaming?
14:08 matey; well the good news is
14:08 matey; 4 billion can pay for A LOT of netflix
14:08 matey; but netflix is more likely to run on intel than zilog
14:08 fuzzy; 4 billion, for intel alone
14:08 matey; yeah its ridiculous (so is netflix)
14:08 fuzzy; just as said, i would funnel those 4 billion reichsmark into lattice semi and zilog
14:09 matey; why you, though?
14:09 fuzzy; because, it is MY HOMELAND.
14:09 matey; and the other 82,999,999 germans there?
14:09 matey; is it their homeland too?
14:09 fuzzy; whoever they are.
14:09 fuzzy; matey: NO.
14:10 matey; oh, ok
14:10 matey; well the good news then
14:10 matey; is you can take their 4b and do whatever you want to with it
14:10 matey; but from what youve said, it sounds like someone has already done that
14:10 fuzzy; matey: wrong, Intel got it.
14:10 fuzzy; so, good luck with this.
14:10 matey; you said it
14:10 fuzzy; no, this wasn't me, who decided.
14:11 matey; how many people have germany as a homeland?
14:11 matey; besides you
14:11 fuzzy; difficult to estimate
14:11 fuzzy; because, they committed ethnocide against the population
14:11 fuzzy; to eradice, evidence
14:11 matey; oh okay
14:11 matey; no, i like this idea
14:12 matey; they supported the holocaust so they shouldnt have rights
14:12 matey; i mean thats what the nuremberg trials were about
14:12 fuzzy; and then, "they" dump billions, into Tesla and Intel Kikes
14:12 matey; i cant really complain about those, maybe they were too lenient
14:12 fuzzy; sad thing, about the nuremberg trials, you know, they hanged Julius Streicher
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14:13 fuzzy; meanwhile, Ilya Ehrenburg, this is the one, this historical truth teller
14:13 fuzzy; why wasn't this one hanged? Ilya Ehrenburg, and his offspring, inciting hatred, nowadays?
14:14 matey; streicher was the founder of Der Strmer, which was an important part of the nazi propaganda machine
14:14 matey; why WOULDNT he be executed?
14:14 matey; whats sad about it?
14:14 fuzzy; hanged, death sentence, Ilya Ehrenburg, why wasn't this kike hanged?
14:14 matey; i think i understand why people think you might be a racist nazi
14:14 matey; i mean apart from afd
14:14 fuzzy; why? come on. explain to me. why did they hang Streiche, and they didn't hang Ehrenburg?
14:15 matey; well i understand why they killed Streicher at least
14:15 matey; what did Ilya Ehrenbur DO
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14:15 fuzzy; exactly the SAME as Julius Streicher did, matey
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14:15 fuzzy; Streiche was hanged, Ehrenburg, the jew, wasn't hanged for his crimes
14:15 fuzzy; come on. why?
14:16 matey; exactly the SAME <- looking it up now
14:16 fuzzy; and, i got some more questions for you
14:16 matey; Ilya Grigoryevich Ehrenburg was a Soviet writer, revolutionary, journalist and historian. Ehrenburg was among the most prolific and notable authors of the Soviet Union; he published around one hundred titles. He became known first and foremost as a novelist and a journalist in particular, as a reporter in three wars.
14:16 matey; well im still trying to find the reason you want ehrenburg killed
14:17 fuzzy; because he, Ehrenburg, and his offspring, commited the exact same crame as Julius Streicher did
14:17 fuzzy; *crime
14:17 matey; During the war, Ilya Ehrenburg was one of the most widely read journalists in the Soviet Press. As a Jew, he worked hard to place articles about Jewish suffering, including the piece "To Remember" in Pravda, the Russian daily paper, where he referred to the Nazi murder of six million Jews.
14:17 matey; because he, Ehrenburg, and his offspring, commited the exact same crame as Julius Streicher did <- and how is that?
14:17 matey; i mean
14:17 matey; im not finding any evidence of that
14:18 fuzzy; inciting hatred, HATE PROPAGANDA
14:18 fuzzy; this was the job, of Ehrenburg
14:18 matey; Streichers lies for example, resulted in mass extermination
14:18 matey; who died because of Ehrenburg?
14:18 matey; how many?
14:18 fuzzy; 7 Million german soldiers alone
14:18 fuzzy; 7 Million
14:19 fuzzy; however, this, is a glorious victory, you know
14:19 matey; you do realise that german soliders INVADED RUSSIA, right?
14:19 fuzzy; pardon?
14:19 matey; they brought tanks and soldiers and plans to russia
14:19 matey; and started killing people on russian soil
14:19 fuzzy; matey: german settlers, farmer and craftsmen, did NOT invade, german settlers were invited by catherine the great
14:19 fuzzy; already
14:19 matey; also known as "invading russia"
14:20 fuzzy; and the "red revolution" seeked to expropriate, germans
14:20 matey; okay let me rephrase then
14:20 fuzzy; to loot and plunder
14:20 fuzzy; this is fact
14:20 matey; russia has a border
14:20 matey; german military was crossing that border with troops
14:20 fuzzy; sure, and some russians are germans
14:20 matey; and killing people inside that border
14:20 matey; usually this is known as an invasion
14:21 fuzzy; sure, yet, it began, long before 1933 and hitler
14:21 matey; what do you call it?
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14:21 matey; and you think Ehrenburg should be killed because
14:21 fuzzy; as far as Ukraine and Russia and Poland are concerned?
14:21 matey; he was directly responsible for those soldiers being killed
14:21 fuzzy; it was ethnocide of the german population within Russia/Ukrain/Poland
14:21 fuzzy; and this, is historical fact
14:21 fuzzy; undeniable
14:22 fuzzy; however, with east-germany, yet another border was crossed
14:22 matey; and you dont think they were killed maybe because they came over the border and started shooting and bombing people?
14:22 fuzzy; that's why, i wished, we didn't dismantle nukes
14:22 fuzzy; matey: when?
14:22 matey; breaking a treaty that hitler had signed
14:22 fuzzy; catherine the great invited german farmers and craftsmen, 1800 already
14:23 matey; when were they crossing the border and killing people?
14:23 fuzzy; furthermore, the Knights of the German Cross, and the Hanseatic League trade union, it existed for 500 years already
14:23 *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@7hpuxwr5tewrw.irc) has joined #techrights
14:23 matey; so my understand so far is this
14:23 fuzzy; trade troutes existed, down to middle east, including Israel
14:23 matey; because of catherine the great in the 1800s
14:24 fuzzy; that's how long germans lived there, even longer, given other historical facts
14:24 matey; in the 1900s germans should be allowed to cross the russian border (while under a peace treaty signed by hitler)
14:24 fuzzy; and, germans did NOT "invade", historical truth is, germans were expelled, deported, before hitler seized power
14:24 matey; and basically just rampage and slaughter and no jewish reporters should dare say this is a bad thing...
14:24 matey; and because they said this is a bad thing, they should be killed
14:25 matey; so they didnt invade per se
14:25 matey; this was more like a returning home parade, with tanks and bombs for added celebratory effect
14:25 matey; i mean they probably had more of those on hand than fireworks
14:25 matey; you can appreciate the kind of misunderstandings that could result though
14:25 fuzzy; historical truth is, german settlements existed, for hundreds of years, trade routes, across entire europe
14:26 matey; unless of course those misunderstandings were all perpetrated by the press
14:26 matey; :)
14:26 fuzzy; and nowadays, they loot and plunder east-germany
14:26 fuzzy; and this is the moment when, i say, pull the trigger, get out the nukes
14:26 matey; i dont doubt it. after all, its europe
14:27 TR News; Manage GNOME extensions from Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166430
14:27 TR Bot; Manage GNOME extensions from Terminal | Tux Machines
14:28 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AIZKZ3C1ML8
14:28 TR Bot; The Producers (1968) - Franz Liebkind (Kenneth Mars) - Invidious
14:30 TR News; Solar Protocols, Radio Internets, Decentralized futures gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-24-network.gmi
14:40 TR News; Linus Torvalds Expects to See Rust Support in the Kernel Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166414#comment-34122
14:40 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines
14:42 TR News; Samsung to Pay $14M for Galaxy Water Resistant Claims https://www.maketecheasier.com/samsung-pay-14m-galaxy-water-resistant/
14:42 TR Bot; Samsung to Pay $14M for Galaxy Water Resistant Claims - Make Tech Easier
14:43 TR News; Security updates for Friday https://lwn.net/Articles/898925/
14:43 TR Bot; updates for Friday [LWN.net]
14:44 TR News; On the Dangers of Cryptocurrencies and the Uselessness of Blockchain https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/on-the-dangers-of-cryptocurrencies-and-the-uselessness-of-blockchain.html
14:44 TR Bot; the Dangers of Cryptocurrencies and the Uselessness of Blockchain - Schneier on Security
14:44 TR News; "President Saied has already dismissed the parliament and the government. Now, with Tunisias democracy at risk, judges who speak out against the presidents actions are facing exposure and public shaming, while the perpetrators enjoy impunity." https://www.accessnow.org/how-online-doxxing-is-endangering-women-judges-in-tunisia/
14:44 TR Bot; How online doxxing is endangering women judges in Tunisia - Access Now
14:46 TR News; SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15 SP4 https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/x86_64/SUSE-SLES/15-SP4/index.html
14:46 TR Bot; Notes | SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 15SP4
14:46 TR News; Fun with Paths and URLs in QML - KDAB https://www.kdab.com/fun-with-paths-urls-in-qml/ Source: kdab
14:46 TR Bot; with Paths and URLs in QML - KDAB
14:47 matey; Ilya Ehrenburg was born on Jan. 27, 1891, in Kiev.
14:47 matey; in kiev!
14:47 matey; oh, priceless
14:47 TR News; "Stratis 3.1.0 includes significant improvements to the management of the thin-provisioning layers, as well as a number of other user-visible enhancements and bug fixes." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stratis_3.1.0
14:47 TR Bot; Changes/Stratis 3.1.0 - Fedora Project Wiki
14:48 TR News; The road to JBoss EAP 8 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/24/road-jboss-eap-8 Source: icbm
14:48 TR Bot; The road to JBoss EAP 8 | Red Hat Developer
14:49 TR News; Fedora Community [sic] Blog: CPE Weekly Update Week 25 2022 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-25-2022/
14:49 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update Week 25 2022 Fedora Community Blog
14:49 matey; https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-human-behavior/to-remember-ilya-ehrenburg
14:49 TR Bot; To Remember by Ilya Ehrenburg | Facing History and Ourselves
14:50 matey; apparently the alt-right (perhaps others as well) credit him with the "6 million" in "6 million jews"
14:50 matey; granted those were civilians
14:50 TR News; ICBM helped Hitler, for profit. Now it's flying "diversity" flags... https://opensource.com/article/22/6/open-source-standards-diversity
14:50 TR Bot; a more diverse and equitable open source project with open standards | Opensource.com
14:50 matey; but lets not forget also that invading german soldiers were killed
14:52 matey; during an invasion of a country they had a peace treaty with
14:52 TR News; Since when does ICBM prioritise people? They're slaves to them. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/prioritize-people-cultural-transformation
14:52 TR Bot; Prioritize people during cultural transformation in 3 steps | The Enterprisers Project
14:53 matey; a peaceful invasion, made bloody by yellow journalists, i guess
14:53 matey; to his credit, stalin did his best to keep things calm
14:54 matey; telling his men to simply get slaughtered rather than provoke the nice german troops
14:54 matey; but did they listen? nooooo
14:54 TR News; Rust and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166414#comment-34123
14:54 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines
14:54 matey; why do people never listen
14:55 TR News; Godot Engine - Godot community poll 2022 https://godotengine.org/article/godot-community-poll-2022 Source: godotengine
14:55 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Godot community poll 2022
14:55 matey; i think mike godwin is probably standing on a ledge right about now
14:55 matey; /me softly mumbles "dont do it, mike!"
14:55 TR News; Utkarsh Gandhi: "It's been almost 2 weeks into the GSoC coding period, and the project has picked up the pace!" https://utkarsh2401.blogspot.com/2022/06/first-update.html
14:55 TR Bot; First Update!
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
14:59 TR News; "The AlmaLinux Build System will let users build software for the AlmaLinux distribution. Full access of ALBS is slated for July." But needs to delete GitHub. AlmaLinux keeps sucking up to Microsoft, also Azure (layoffs) and WSL (attack on GNU/Linux) https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/almalinux-build-system-what-you-need-know
14:59 TR Bot; AlmaLinux Build System: What You Need to Know | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
15:00 matey; We must remember: fascism was born out of the greed and stupidity of some, and the perfidy and cowardice of others. If mankind wants to put an end to the bloody nightmare of these years, it must put an end to fascism. Half measures will not do here. If fascism is left somewhere to breed, then in ten or twenty years we will again see rivers of blood.
15:01 matey; A nail drives out a nail, but you cannot drive out fascism with fascism. You cannot liberate nations of one brand of fascism and deliver them into the hands of fascists of a different brand. -- ilya ehrenburg
15:01 matey; but i guess not everyones a fan
15:02 TR News; The Steam Summer Sale is the best sale Valves done in a long time (plus other Deck News) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XCgSfDw0cM8 "TLG" so focused on Valve/Deck that I bet everything he took money from then
15:02 TR Bot; The Steam Summer Sale is the best sale Valve's done in a long time (plus other Deck News) - Invidious
15:03 TR News; How to Build Organizational Resilience to Cyberattacks https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/06/building-organizational-cyber-resilience.html
15:03 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: How to Build Organizational Resilience to Cyberattacks
15:05 TR News; Asking ICBM... How to Build Organizational Resilience to Cyberattacks.... Can we stop assuming everyone uses Windows or that Windows security is possible/can be salvaged? Security is not part of the goals. Also, alcohol isn't medicine.
15:05 TR News; Good news everyone! SLE 15 SP4 is now released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166431
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15:07 TR News; How I sketchnote with open source tools | https://opensource.com/article/22/6/open-source-sketchnotes Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
15:07 TR Bot; I sketchnote with open source tools | Opensource.com
15:08 TR News; "Hello and welcome to Episode 472 of Linux in the Ham Shack" https://lhspodcast.info/2022/06/lhs-episode-472-elementary-my-dear-watson-2/
15:08 TR Bot; LHS Episode #472: Elementary My Dear Watson | Linux in the Ham Shack
15:09 TR News; 4 CNCF Projects For Key Management - Container Journal https://containerjournal.com/features/4-cncf-projects-for-key-management/ Source: containerjournal
15:09 TR Bot; 4 CNCF Projects For Key Management - Container Journal
15:13 TR News; How Microsoft-friendly sites distract from the biggest culprit and badmouth Linux and Golang at the same time (simply because you can install malware) https://thehackernews.com/2022/06/panchan-new-golang-based-peer-to-peer.html
15:13 TR Bot; Panchan: A New Golang-based Peer-To-Peer Botnet Targeting Linux Servers
15:13 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166433
15:13 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:17 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166434
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15:17 TR News; Fedora, Red Hat, and IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166435
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15:19 TR News; Krita 5.1 and digiKam 7.7 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166382#comment-34124
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15:20 TR News; Quectel SG560D 5G & WiFi 6E module runs Android 12, targets AIoT applications https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/24/quectel-sg560d-5g-wifi-6e-module-runs-android-12-targets-aiot-applications/
15:20 TR Bot; Quectel SG560D 5G & WiFi 6E module runs Android 12, targets AIoT applications - CNX Software
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15:20 TR Bot; Renesas SmartBond DA1470x Bluetooth 5.2 LE SoC features a 2D GPU - CNX Software
15:20 matey; today was interesting, i learned how german peace treaties work
15:20 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166436
15:20 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:21 matey; basically theyre like working with chuck norris
15:21 matey; he cant do those kicks in a real battle, so you sort of have to stand still so he can kick you
15:21 matey; similarly, when germany is invading a country they signed a peace treaty with
15:22 matey; youre not supposed to fight back. a german peace treaty means "we can invade-- but you agreed not to defend yourself!"
15:22 schestowitz_TR; poland?
15:22 schestowitz_TR; france?
15:22 matey; russia
15:22 matey; stalin and hitler were besties
15:22 matey; but hitlers not a very good friend (not that stalin would be)
15:23 matey; actually hitler wore the pants that in marriage
15:23 matey; s/that in/in that/
15:23 schestowitz_TR; source?
15:23 schestowitz_TR; I know they allied on splitting Poland
15:23 schestowitz_TR; but don't know when or why it turned sour
15:23 matey; history book?
15:24 schestowitz_TR; the attacker often pretends to be proactivelyt defending
15:24 schestowitz_TR; like putin does in ukraine
15:24 schestowitz_TR; or israel innn gaza
15:24 schestowitz_TR; or uk in falkland
15:24 XRevan86; matey: Keep in mind that Hitler didn't declare war, so whatever the USSR and Nazi Germany had was not war, it was a special military operation to de-Jew-ise and de-militarise the USSR.
15:24 schestowitz_TR; or japan, I think
15:24 schestowitz_TR; so even when you are the aggressor it's some "defence" thing
15:24 matey; it was a special military operation <- honestly it was more innocent than that
15:24 schestowitz_TR; putin in georgia
15:24 XRevan86; Claiming otherwise is Fake News, by the penalty of law.
15:24 schestowitz_TR; us in iraq
15:24 matey; they were only going in to paint "z" on some things
15:24 matey; the whole thing was a misunderstanding
15:25 matey; us in iraq <- that wasnt under a peace treaty though
15:25 matey; and gene simmons says it was liberating!
15:25 matey; the famous political analyst and bass player
15:25 XRevan86; matey: Germany was just protecting the German population, Russia is just protecting the Russian population.
15:26 matey; XRevan86: and they could do that if not all those meddling journalists from kiev!
15:26 XRevan86; matey: Who fabricated a massacre in Bucha
15:27 matey; /me knows fuck-all about bucha
15:27 TR News; Those are NOT "Linux Commands" https://www.fosslife.org/alternatives-deprecated-linux-commands
15:27 TR Bot; Alternatives to Deprecated Linux Commands
15:29 matey; whats really funny though
15:29 TR News; What if? This is where we are heading.. //www.mnot.net/blog/2022/06/22/chromium-only
15:29 matey; is someone told me herr doktor sixel might be a nazi sympathiser
15:29 matey; i only knew about the afd thing, and you know
15:29 TR News; "I fucking hate Jira." https://ifuckinghatejira.com/
15:29 TR Bot; I fucking hate Jira.
15:29 matey; there has to be AT LEAST ONE guy supporting them that doesnt know their deal
15:29 matey; i guess
15:30 XRevan86; matey: All one needs to know is that Minwar and Putin personally deny everything and claim the whole thing is fabricated. And *any* evidence to the contrary, like https://nytimes.com/2022/05/19/world/europe/russia-bucha-ukraine-executions.html
15:30 TR Bot; New Evidence Shows How Russian Soldiers Executed Men in Bucha - The New York Times
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:30 matey; but then i talked to him and got his side of the story
15:30 matey; and i guess its like, 10-20 times worse than i imagined
15:30 matey; so thats fun
15:30 matey; maybe baphometos should be called blitzkriegos or something
15:30 XRevan86; matey: It's that easy to refute, no brain-cells required.
15:30 matey; or specialmilitaryos
15:30 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: TLG, Bad Voltage, and Linux in the Ham Shack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166437
15:30 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: TLG, Bad Voltage, and Linux in the Ham Shack | Tux Machines
15:30 TR News; "Not publishing one sentence per line, no. Write like this for your eyes only. HTML or Markdown combine separate lines into one paragraph." https://sive.rs/1s
15:30 TR Bot; writing one sentence per line | Derek Sivers
15:30 matey; its a special military operating system!
15:31 matey; i still think cutting the crap out of linux is a good idea
15:31 matey; but it was starting to look like wholesale liquidation, and i guess theres no need to hunt for an explanation for that now
15:31 TR News; git clarity gemini://idiomdrottning.org/git-clarity
15:32 matey; at any rate, if i need an os from people who think hitler was just defending the HOMELAND, i can use fedora
15:32 XRevan86; matey: https://youtu.be/NkEgtfL0TIU?t=88
15:32 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:32 TR News; "Healthcare is a human right, and anybody wanting to terminate an unwanted pregnancy deserves access to whatever form of medical care they choose. However, abortion wasnt invented in the 20th century, and in the face of patriarchal state repression, I encourage folks to share these resources, some of which I mirror here." gemini://retrace.club/~mycorrhiza/posts/20220503_herbal_abortions.gmi
15:32 XRevan86; First thing I found with subtitles.
15:33 matey; subttles will help
15:33 matey; i dont know cyrillic, let alone russian
15:33 matey; (but i can probably spot the CAFE now)
15:33 XRevan86; Not the same speech I was looking for, but this will suffice.
15:34 XRevan86; He gave a more verbose comment on Bucha being fake, saying that Anglo-Saxons fabricated the whole thing and he has proof.
15:35 matey; wow
15:35 matey; watch his face
15:35 XRevan86; That was in April. Still waiting for that proof.
15:35 matey; thats a true dyed-in-the-wool sociopath
15:35 matey; of course, given the situation, that sounds like an understatement (and might be)
15:36 matey; either hes colder than ice or he has animatronic implants
15:36 TR News; Links 24/06/2022: SLE 15 SP4 and Darkbar 1.0.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/darkbar-1-0-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/darkbar-1-0-1/
15:36 TR Bot; Links 24/06/2022: SLE 15 SP4 and Darkbar 1.0.1 | Techrights
15:36 XRevan86; matey: He has botox.
15:37 matey; bush jr would grin stupidly when saying things like that, because he knew it was bullshit
15:37 matey; matey: He has botox. <- extra strength
15:37 matey; but fair point
15:38 matey; now all the psycho fascist leaders are going to want botox so they can say this shit with a straight face
15:38 XRevan86; matey: "bush jr would grin stupidly when saying things like that, because he knew it was bullshit" <- https://youtu.be/vi/JQnQsQ35zc4/hqdefault.jpg like this?
15:38 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:40 matey; i dunno, im having trouble getting anything besides html from that
15:40 matey; but i used to support national public radio
15:40 matey; i stopped listening and supporting when every day i had to listen to that idiot doing speeches
15:40 matey; i mostly liked that they played classical music
15:41 matey; youtube would exist not long after that
15:42 XRevan86; * https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JQnQsQ35zc4/hqdefault.jpg
15:43 matey; he looks like a happy crash test dummy
15:43 matey; what kind of foundation did they put on him, latex?
15:43 XRevan86; This is pre-botox, the year 2000.
15:44 matey; still very uncanney valley
15:44 matey; but theres a nuance
15:45 matey; In aesthetics, the uncanny valley (Japanese: bukimi no tani) is a hypothesized relation between an object's degree of resemblance to a human being and the emotional response to the object. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
15:45 TR Bot; Uncanny valley - Wikipedia
15:46 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actroid
15:46 TR Bot; Actroid - Wikipedia
15:47 matey; ewwwwwww
15:47 matey; just looking at it makes you feel like its trying to eat your face
15:48 matey; the funny thing is
15:48 matey; ive spent a lot of time reading a webcomic (a couple actually) where the models are 3d rendered
15:48 matey; (and then i suppose, 2d rendered)
15:49 matey; and they look creepy enough that some people wont read them
15:49 matey; but i can stand them
15:49 XRevan86; matey: https://youtu.be/dqDqvKYDv9M found it, only one word but I still wanted to find with subtitles.
15:49 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=dqDqvKYDv9M
15:49 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | eXile TV: Putin Tackles Kursk Submarine Disaster - Invidious
15:49 matey; but that robot is fucking creepy
15:50 matey; "well, hes dead"
15:50 matey; "it sank"
15:50 matey; i wonder if that interview inspired bill gates
15:51 TR News; It is probably fair to say that in recent years the patent maximalism lobby perished, but at the same time the patent REFORM movement is dying or barely active. This is, IMHO, related to the demise of journalism and the WWW.
15:51 matey; i think i prefer the botox / slowly poisoned one to the just-ate-a-canary one
15:51 matey; "oh its not botox. i just havent slept in 3 weeks"
15:52 *techrights_guest|26 (~48849978@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights
15:53 matey; meanwhile bidens got a
15:53 matey; whats the deal, they make his dentures twice the size they should be, or what
15:54 matey; "im not smiling, i just have REALLY big teeth"
15:54 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/10/06/we-couldn-t-tell-the-relatives 2020: "Declassified transcripts show that Putin was obsessed with polling even as Bill Clinton consoled him after the Kursk submarine disaster"
15:54 TR Bot; NO TITLE
15:54 matey; "seriously joe, what the hell?"
15:54 matey; "i started farting in 2007 and havent stopped, youd grin too!"
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15:55 matey; Putin was obsessed with polling <- he wouldnt leave twitter along either
15:56 matey; it didnt even exist yet, but he kept checking
15:57 XRevan86; > It sank, Putin said with a smirk. That expression has haunted the president ever since.
15:57 XRevan86; Sure as heck did.
15:58 matey; the botox fixed it
15:58 matey; ive only seen that smirk on one other person
15:58 matey; bill murray, and HE was being funny at the time
16:03 TR News; Weekly Mortality Reports Not Published for 15 Days Already, Information Blackout Does Not Tackle COVID-19 as It's Rebounding, Surging, and Killing People https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/pandemic-blackout/
16:03 TR Bot; Blog Archive Weekly Mortality Reports Not Published for 15 Days Already, Information Blackout Does Not Tackle COVID-19 as Its Rebounding, Surging, and Killing People
16:11 TR News; In Faeroe Islands 34,658 people tested positive for COVID-19 (out of 49,229 people in total) and only 28 died
16:11 XRevan86; https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-19 "Russian forces are likely employing false-flag artillery strikes against infrastructure in Russian-held areas of Donetsk Oblast in order to dissuade pro-Ukrainian sentiment and encourage the mobilization of proxy forces. Open-source Twitter accounts confirmed ISWs previous assessment that artillery attacks agai
16:11 XRevan86; nst Donetsk City were likely conducted from within Russian-held territory, refuting accusations made by Russian authorities that blamed Ukrainian troops for the attacks.[ https://nitter.net/GeoConfirmed/status/1538527271165771778#m ] Such false-flag attacks are likely being propagated by Russian authorities to create hostility toward the Ukrainian military."
16:11 TR Bot; Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 19 | Institute for the Study of War
16:11 TR Bot; GeoConfirmed (@GeoConfirmed): "Based on the first video we can make an assessment about the number of impacts: https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1533158430390861829 1,5km away from impact area. Speed of sound 343 m/s so rougly 5 seconds delay. The movie starts immediately with the sound of impacts. 14/"|nitter
16:12 XRevan86; It's not solid proof, so at the time I walked away from this.
16:13 XRevan86; The hints that they're doing this have been floating around for many years.
16:13 TR News; In Iceland most of the population tested positive for COVID-19 and 153 died.
16:14 XRevan86; But lately the focus on the war is of course *much-much* higher, and a lot more is known about how Russia and Ukraine conduct their operations.
16:14 XRevan86; And these shelling of Donetsk allegedly conducted by Ukraine are becoming increasingly more and more ridiculous.
16:15 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k4QENwQO8EI
16:15 TR Bot; 10 Subtle Signs of a Psychopath - Invidious
16:16 XRevan86; Because it looks like if Ukraine wanted to attack Donetsk, they'd actually be able to hit something of value at least once.
16:16 TR News; In Bulgaria 3.2% of people who tested positive for COVID-19 died. In Peru it's 6%.
16:16 matey; "many psychopaths dont realise theyre contradicting themselves, because their opinions are impulsive and temporary"
16:16 XRevan86; (of value from a military perspective)
16:17 matey; "psychopaths have no problem with lying, so they say whatever strikes them in the moment"
16:17 XRevan86; matey: That sounds like Ilya Kyva.
16:18 matey; i can think of other examples
16:18 matey; who is ilya kyva?
16:18 XRevan86; matey: I don't know if I can describe him.
16:18 matey; well okay but
16:18 TR News; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/25 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-25/
16:18 TR Bot; openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/25 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
16:18 matey; what is his relationship to you, events, or some other thing?
16:19 XRevan86; matey: He's a Ukrainian polician who used to be a borderline Nazi and then turned into a heavy Russia supporter.
16:19 matey; other than a first and second name (i assumed he was a political figure)
16:19 TR News; Reproducible Builds: Supporter spotlight: Hans-Christoph Steiner of the F-Droid project https://reproducible-builds.org/news/2022/06/24/supporter-spotlight-hans-christoph-steiner-f-droid-project/
16:19 TR Bot; spotlight: Hans-Christoph Steiner of the F-Droid project reproducible-builds.org
16:19 matey; i may be missing part of the conversation, and i was just going to go check. so if it seems like an odd question, thats why
16:19 XRevan86; matey: He did *a lot* of controversial things.
16:19 matey; so a public figure the
16:20 matey; then
16:20 XRevan86; yes
16:20 XRevan86; And he made a lot of shit up.
16:20 TR News; Red Hat Learning Community celebrates 100,000 members https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-learning-community-celebrates-100000-members Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
16:20 TR Bot; Red Hat Learning Community celebrates 100,000 members
16:20 XRevan86; That was later picked up by Russian propaganda as well.
16:20 matey; ohh ok
16:20 matey; yeah from that description i think yovue mentioned him before
16:20 XRevan86; matey: IIRC, our friend activelow even shared some of Kyva's pearls.
16:20 XRevan86; I did, yea.
16:21 matey; "see how often their opinions flop back and forth. it may happen more than you realise"
16:22 XRevan86; matey: The guy flips back and forth quicker than a clock.
16:22 XRevan86; The shoe fits, basically.
16:23 XRevan86; Better than to anyone else.
16:24 matey; theyre very hierarchical
16:24 matey; all trying to be the alpha
16:24 matey; no wp article sadly
16:25 matey; oh wait here we go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illia_Kyva
16:25 TR Bot; Illia Kyva - Wikipedia
16:25 matey; transliteration does it
16:25 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/252560
16:25 TR Bot; More arson attacks at Russian military enlistment offices: Fire bottles thrown in Belgorod and Perm
16:26 matey; or should i say transyliteration
16:26 matey; lol
16:26 matey; the moment i saw his face i thought it was a breaking bad sequel
16:26 TR News; EPO actions/strike: Ballot on extension of the Work-to-Rule actions until 30 September 2022
16:27 matey; id link to the picture but its all unicode shoved into html entities
16:27 matey; he looks like a cross between dr phil and john malkovich
16:28 XRevan86; I think my English-translation sources missed pretty amusing recent news about a school prank.
16:28 matey; school prank?
16:31 XRevan86; https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://tjournal.ru/news/659829
16:31 TR Bot; - TJ
16:33 XRevan86; "School at Klin did a performance "Work liberates" with the slogans of the Third Reich because of a prank of a blogger from Belarus"
16:33 matey; lol
16:33 matey; there was an episode of the office like that
16:34 matey; dwight (who loves authority anyway) won some award for sales and had to give a speech at a sales convention
16:34 matey; so his boss michael scott tried to teach him how to tell jokes at big events
16:35 matey; jim, who always pranks dwight, said humour wasnt his style-- he needed to beat his fist on the podium and extoll the values of hard work and discipline
16:35 matey; then he stitched together bits of speeches of people like mussolini
16:35 matey; dwight delivered the speech predictably and powerfully, and to the horror of some everyone cheered
16:36 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ilE4lr9Qb3A the speech
16:36 TR Bot; Dwight's Acceptance Speech - The Office - Invidious
16:39 XRevan86; It's a special form of Poe's Law the way I see it.
16:39 XRevan86; The school couldn't tell if it's in Nazi Germany or not.
16:40 matey; sadly, a lot of things we used to joke about have come true
16:42 XRevan86; Sadly, I don't think anyone's covered this in English. Quite something.
16:43 XRevan86; https://nitter.net/maceochi/status/1540030012631535618 found something
16:43 TR Bot; Ian Mac Eochagin (@maceochi): "A Belarusian artist posing as a United Russia official made a school in Klin, Russia, do a staff cleanup of the grounds under the title Work makes free and with the slogan One folk, one nation, one leader. The school did so and sent him a photo report. Genius and scary."|nitter
16:48 matey; lol
16:49 matey; someone from a comedy show put a table outside and got a bunch of people to sign a petition to "end womens sufferage"
16:49 matey; of course womens sufferage is the right to vote
16:49 matey; but it also sounds like "women suffering"
16:49 matey; so people who dont know what sufferage means signed to end womens right to vote
16:50 matey; and it was just a poke at people not knowing their own language and history
16:50 matey; one of the more notable women in the womens sufferage movement was susan b anthony
16:51 matey; i only know her name because she was on a dollar coin that was only made for a single year
16:51 matey; there are not a lot of dollar coins
16:51 matey; theres the larger silver dollar in actual silver, from the 1800s
16:51 matey; theres the large silver dollar made of nickel
16:51 matey; theres the susan b anthony dollar
16:51 matey; and the gold dollar coin
16:52 matey; over nearly a 250 year history, thats not many
16:52 matey; and only 2 are really in circulation
16:52 matey; the susan b anthony and the gold dollar coin
16:53 matey; you rarely see them so its sort of fun
16:53 matey; if you know the history of the coin youll know that "womens sufferage" is the right to vote
16:54 matey; http://www.bandhmo.org/ Coalition to Ban DHMO Dihydrogen Monoxide Homepage
16:54 TR Bot; Coalition to Ban DHMO Dihydrogen Monoxide Homepage
16:54 matey; Dihydrogen monoxide: is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain. contributes to the "greenhouse effect." may cause severe burns. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
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16:56 matey; www.change.org/p/ban-dihydrogen-monoxide-stop-the-use-of-the-chemical-dihydrogen-monoxide
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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16:59 fuzzy; besides Intel, the new "german" government, announced to acquire F-35 nuclear bombers
17:00 fuzzy; let me say, this isn't close to russian border, this is germany
17:00 fuzzy; however, those who decide, to subsidize intel with 1billion, and dump cash into F-35 bombers
17:00 fuzzy; whose interests are served?
17:02 fuzzy; the propaganda spin is this: safe the planet, social ecological justice, and democracy and freedom
17:03 fuzzy; anyway, whoever intel and affiliates want to bless, i want them to get the fuck out of my homeland
17:03 fuzzy; now
17:03 fuzzy; sadly, meanwhile they stockpiled nukes, east-germany dismantled everthing
17:04 fuzzy; instead, yet another power grab and occupation of foreign soil, which isn't theirs
17:04 fuzzy; this new government, "german" they say, it's "innovation" and "digital economy" and investment into future
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17:04 fuzzy; yet, i fail to comprehend, because, millions of young _left_ east germany
17:05 fuzzy; how was this supposed to benefit the economy?
17:06 fuzzy; the new Chancellor, if it was him being involved, with such decisions, then he is the stupiest idiot ever
17:07 fuzzy; yet, i simply do not know yet, who were resonsible for this
17:07 MinceR; https://existentialcomics.com/comic/450
17:07 TR Bot; Language Drinking Games - Existential Comics
17:07 fuzzy; east german yout leaves the country, because mass unemployment,
17:07 fuzzy; then some consumer toy company Intel shall be subsidized with 1billion cash?
17:08 fuzzy; i mean, i haven't got at least some tiniest office and lab space...
17:08 fuzzy; i could hire some staff, instantly, quality jobs, no need for anyone else to tell me what to do
17:08 fuzzy; certainly, Intel isn't the type of company, to dictate
17:09 fuzzy; nonetheless, 1billion cash, for Intel
17:09 fuzzy; it isn't Intel who invests 1billion, it is "german" government who intends to subsidize this corrupt gang
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17:10 fuzzy; 1billion cash, for Intel alone, and east germany is relatively small
17:11 fuzzy; i want names, addresses, i want to see the contracts, everything
17:11 fuzzy; and then put those responsible into jail
17:13 fuzzy; or maybe, somewhere in Ukraine, we find a mud hole for them, to play their games with Intel
17:14 fuzzy; too i noticed, IBM lured into Magdeburg already, the same region where Intel wants to occupy
17:15 fuzzy; while i am at it, it is time to scalp heads at IBM, and them to leave
17:15 fuzzy; wherever they came from, leave
17:16 fuzzy; sure, the particular corporate cancer spread in west germany for decades long before, yet east-germany isn't theirs
17:16 fuzzy; hasn't it been enough already, to ruin west-germany?
17:27 fuzzy; meanwhile, it is irritating somehow, Ukrainian wheet and corn and plant oil isn't shipped anymore
17:27 fuzzy; and then we got those atlantic bridge washtington corporate minion politicians, whining, because such products aren't shipped at a friendship discount anymore
17:28 fuzzy; yet Ukraine seeks to become a member of "EU"
17:29 fuzzy; Russia, already was closely affiliated, economically, with Germany, whatever "EU" was, in theory and practice
17:30 fuzzy; i don't know, i don't follow internal USA politics
17:30 MinceR; maybe ask your friend to piss off from ukraine
17:30 fuzzy; since it is a corrdinated propaganda campaign
17:31 fuzzy; don't know, where this is orchestrated
17:33 fuzzy; hostile US corporations lure into and hijack in east germany
17:33 fuzzy; not some arbitrary US corporations, the hostile ones did
17:34 fuzzy; Intel, IBM, to name two of those
17:34 fuzzy; Magdeburg
17:34 fuzzy; IBM too arrived in Romania, although this is none of my concerns
17:35 fuzzy; and who are the politicians who funneled billions of cash into this cancerous corporate madhouse?
17:35 matey; the propaganda spin is this: safe the planet, social ecological justice, and democracy and freedom <- when you put it that way
17:35 matey; upspeak and high prices on fuel...
17:36 matey; or nazis and high prices on fuel
17:36 matey; id vote for free speech, but i dont recall the gestapo being so big on that when they were torching bookshops
17:37 matey; i like einstein
17:37 matey; first, he fled hitler. that was a good idea. probably why they called him "einstein"
17:38 matey; then after he fled hitler, he sat on his laurels and became a huge sjw
17:38 matey; nope
17:38 fuzzy; Einstein's "speed of light" was reason enough for him to leave, and not return into prussian academy of science
17:39 matey; i like how you put it in scarequotes
17:39 fuzzy; this "speed of light" is reason enough, to expell a scientist from a german university
17:39 fuzzy; if einstein wanted to lecture metaphysical spook, then prussian academy of science was his place
17:39 fuzzy; was not
17:39 matey; after fleeing hitler, he pointed out how hypocritcal the zionists were
17:39 matey; straight up comparing them to nazis in the new york times
17:40 fuzzy; i didn't follow political argument from einstein
17:40 fuzzy; i only considered his speed of light quackery charlatanry
17:40 fuzzy; and this doesn't belong into prussian academy of science
17:40 matey; well of you did, as you must be some kind of timelord
17:40 fuzzy; that's not anti-semitic
17:40 matey; no its just fucking dumb
17:40 fuzzy; if any other, german or none, had articulated such jokes dressed up as science
17:41 fuzzy; then prussian academy of science wasn't the place to do this
17:41 MinceR; inb4 "jewish physics"
17:41 fuzzy; sadly, this bullshit is still lectured in school, in germany (referring to speed of light, not some other topics)
17:41 matey; people treat you like a quack, and you refute it by wolfing down bread you pick up in your beak
17:41 MinceR; lol
17:42 MinceR; but mixing it with water before swallowing
17:42 fuzzy; i think, Einstein himself once said, some constant he introduced was one of his worst mockeries
17:42 matey; Mein Feathur
17:43 matey; `O/<
17:43 matey; thats a duck doing a heil hitler with his wing
17:43 TR News; EPO Staff at The Hague Complains of New Pressure Tactics and Survey Shows Less than 10% Think Office Policies Serve the EPOs Interests | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-pressurising-tactics/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-pressurising-tactics/
17:43 TR Bot; EPO Staff at The Hague Complains of New Pressure Tactics and Survey Shows Less than 10% Think Office Policies Serve the EPOs Interests | Techrights
17:44 matey; "some constant" now youre just making light
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17:44 matey; if newton was jewish, he would have said gravity was bullshit too
17:44 fuzzy; the "speed of light" one certainly is one of the worst mockeries in history of science
17:45 schestowitz_TR; light has no speed?
17:45 matey; "apples dont fall, this is american propaganda!"
17:45 fuzzy; schestowitz_TR: yes, light is an electromagnetic wave/field, which cannot be characterized with a simple speed property, and it isn't constant
17:46 matey; the apple stayed at the same height for millions of years until they were Pulled Down
17:46 matey; its my homeland, ill say what apples can do in it
17:47 fuzzy; matey: you may dress up as science whatever you like, yet not in prussian academy of science
17:47 matey; their loss
17:47 matey; /me dresses up science as marlene dietrich (my favourite german)
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17:47 matey; (no really, shes the greatest)
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17:48 MinceR; 24 184605 < matey> the apple stayed at the same height for millions of years until they were Pulled Down
17:48 MinceR; Intelligent Falling
17:48 matey; a great article from a once-great publication
17:49 matey; exposing the truth that other newspapers were afraid to publish
17:49 MinceR; also brings to mind: Dark Sucker Theory
17:49 matey; not familiar with that one
17:49 MinceR; http://www.rogermwilcox.com/darksucker.html
17:49 TR Bot; The Dark Sucker Theory page
17:50 fuzzy; almost forgot: "100 billion special military budget"
17:50 fuzzy; round it round it goes, where it ends, noone knows
17:51 fuzzy; seems, this new "german" government scraped the 1billion for intel out of the toilet where they shit coins into
17:53 matey; if scientists ever do find dark matter, someone will surely blame it for all the universes problems
17:53 fuzzy; suprise, if some candle light is placed near a magnet, the flame is bend by the electromagnetic field
17:53 matey; "well, there goes the universe"
17:54 fuzzy; in "science" "made in usa" this is called "black hole"
17:54 matey; yeah i remember hawking talking about magnetic candles a lot
17:54 MinceR; wow, they unified gravity with electro-weak interaction?
17:54 fuzzy; no, i said a magnetic field bends the flame of a candle
17:54 matey; right after he refuted "photons" as the childhood stories they were
17:54 MinceR; and then said they call it a black hole
17:55 fuzzy; which is the exact same phenomena of what is discussed as "black hole" and "dark matter"
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17:55 MinceR; [citation needed]
17:55 fuzzy; however, an experiment doesn't require any more than a magnet, a candle flame, to proof the existence of it
17:55 matey; psydruid, we are in the presence of true scientific greatness
17:56 matey; heres a scientific mind that rivals einstein, and hes not even confined to a wheelchair
17:57 matey; let me put it this way: have you ever heard of plato? aristotle? socrates?
17:57 matey; morons!
17:58 matey; here we have Un berkrout with a Truly Dizzying intellect
17:58 matey; a mind of Messianic proportions
17:58 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg
17:58 TR Bot; https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg
17:59 TR Bot; inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Blazing Saddles... You know, morons. - Invidious
18:00 matey; ITS TWOO, ITS TWOO!
18:00 fuzzy; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect
18:00 TR Bot; Zeeman effect - Wikipedia
18:00 fuzzy; it wasn't an Ueberkraut, the scientist who described the phenomena was Dutch
18:01 TR News; [Meme] You Cannot Protest Because... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/meme-you-cannot-protest-because/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/meme-you-cannot-protest-because/
18:01 TR Bot; [Meme] You Cannot Protest Because | Techrights
18:02 matey; "e = BS" fuZZy
18:03 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLPmmrofEg
18:03 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=DvLPmmrofEg
18:03 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | MC Hawking - E=MC Hawking - Invidious
18:06 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k
18:06 TR Bot; Albert Einstein vs Stephen Hawking. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious
18:06 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc
18:06 TR Bot; Carl Sagan - 'A Glorious Dawn' ft Stephen Hawking (Symphony of Science) - Invidious
18:07 TR News; SpellBinding: GYILSTH Wordo: FACED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-24.gmi
18:07 matey; zweistein
18:07 matey; for when einstein wont do
18:07 MinceR; https://web.archive.org/web/20220615155747/https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/longevity-2 ( https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/longevity-2 )
18:07 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Longevity
18:08 TR News; Photogaphs And Fractals In Gemini, This Weeks Capsule Challenge gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-24-photos.gmi "Cats, nature, pictures of my smoking pieces, books, some art stuff, fractals."
18:08 fuzzy; Zeeman, was his name, the scientist
18:08 TR News; THE STOLEN BODY added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Stolen_Body.gmi
18:08 matey; zeeman was zee man
18:08 fuzzy; and i recall another name Birkeland, almost forgot... moment please
18:09 matey; his brothers name was wyman and his other brother was in the x-men
18:09 fuzzy; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Birkeland
18:09 TR News; "I try not to go onto the mainweb, and Gemini has been helpful there, but occasionally, there is no choice. I've been using the Waterfox browser for many years, as it seemed to be more privacy-oriented." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-24.waterfox.gmi we exposed its sale to system1 in techrights!
18:09 fuzzy; almost forgot, need to read again, what Birkeland discovered
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18:10 matey; probably anti-gravity
18:11 matey; or maybe the sonic screwdriver
18:11 matey; to be fair, they also had plenty of USEFUL german scientists
18:11 matey; just none that defected from the HOMELAND
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18:11 fuzzy; no, in northern europe, norway, solar winds illuminate the skies, north pole
18:11 fuzzy; and this ignited speculation, and research
18:12 schestowitz_TR; godel also left germany
18:12 schestowitz_TR; even today many leave
18:12 schestowitz_TR; the father of aws
18:13 schestowitz_TR; but that's also because the government does not fund companies
18:13 schestowitz_TR; instead it shelters patentr parasites like EPO
18:13 schestowitz_TR; and the media paarticipates in the cover-up
18:13 schestowitz_TR; maybe germany wants a capital of litigation in berlin or munich
18:13 schestowitz_TR; they also sold out to microsoft there
18:13 schestowitz_TR; that's a war by salesmen against scientists
18:13 schestowitz_TR; and in munich the criminals got their way
18:14 schestowitz_TR; of course it's easier to blame "the immigrants"
18:14 schestowitz_TR; maybe one day germany will reain leadership
18:14 schestowitz_TR; *regain
18:14 matey; liedership?
18:14 schestowitz_TR; liebershippen
18:15 matey; "we vant to hire an autometen"
18:15 matey; "oh, youre volunteering to go get some meat"
18:15 schestowitz_TR; they had belinOS
18:16 matey; "no need! ve have meat here, In Zee Buildeeng!"
18:16 schestowitz_TR; and some key hosting outfits in berlin
18:16 schestowitz_TR; but the berlin software scenes pales not just compared to usland but also east asia
18:16 schestowitz_TR; and the regime seems to think getting millionf more patents is the answer
18:16 schestowitz_TR; beause lobbyists of liitgation firms tell them so
18:18 TR News; "Is COVID-19 a solved issue? No!" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/pandemic-blackout/
18:18 TR Bot; Blog Archive Weekly Mortality Reports Not Published for 15 Days Already, Information Blackout Does Not Tackle COVID-19 as Its Rebounding, Surging, and Killing People
18:18 TR News; With only a few days left before national representatives meet in Munich to discuss the future of the Office its important to understand that they totally ignore the interests of Europe, the EPOs staff, and science/technology http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-pressurising-tactics/
18:18 TR Bot; EPO Staff at The Hague Complains of New Pressure Tactics and Survey Shows Less than 10% Think Office Policies Serve the EPOs Interests | Techrights
18:18 TR News; Mr. social dialogue very nice guy Antnio Campinos failed to fulfill the peace mission or attain the calm he was assigned to deliver 4 years ago; the EPO is still in a state of crisis, but will national representatives care? Will they bag more bribes for not caring? http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/meme-you-cannot-protest-because/
18:18 TR Bot; [Meme] You Cannot Protest Because | Techrights
18:19 matey; <schestowitz_TR> and in munich the criminals got their way
18:19 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YdUha2c5hv8
18:19 TR Bot; Visit a burger king in Germany - Invidious
18:19 fuzzy; today, at employment agency, i asked for some office space
18:19 fuzzy; and, i want to hire some staff
18:19 matey; could you hire them with 4 billion reichsmark?
18:20 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x5Uf3QKtuX0
18:20 TR Bot; Lumbergh | Office Space | Best Moments - Invidious
18:20 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kVmC0ktznNo
18:20 TR Bot; Best Of Lumbergh - Invidious
18:20 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YYFO5qPpM_I
18:20 TR Bot; Office Space Weekend Work - Invidious
18:20 fuzzy; plus another 400billion reichsmark special military budget
18:20 schestowitz_TR; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GM205iK6rlg
18:20 TR Bot; Peter Don't Give a Shit - Office Space Clip - Invidious
18:20 MinceR; :>
18:22 schestowitz_TR; informal clothing https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aoz3fFfq3Mw
18:22 TR Bot; Gary Cole On Mr. Lumbergh From OFFICE SPACE - Invidious
18:22 schestowitz_TR; that movie emulated many issues
18:22 schestowitz_TR; inc. soft engs faking productivity aorund y2k
18:22 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=X2o-w0e1Xws
18:23 TR Bot; "German science is the best in the world!" in different languages (French, German, Spanish etc.) - Invidious
18:23 matey; its uncanny
18:23 schestowitz_TR; german science. WOULD BE GREAT
18:23 fuzzy; matey: "prussian academy of science" was german, french, and too Einstein was a member
18:24 matey; o \
18:24 matey; o /
18:28 MinceR; / o
18:28 MinceR; \ o
18:28 MinceR; oo
18:28 MinceR; \/
18:28 matey; no the prussian academy of science logo was something like
18:29 matey; /\/\/\
18:29 matey; /\/\/
18:29 matey; dammit
18:29 matey; its hard to draw
18:29 MinceR; lol
18:30 matey; its meant to be a sine wave emanating from a german candle attracted by a dutch magnet
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:30 matey; some people think it looks like a dyslexic swastika but its never been proven
18:30 schestowitz_TR; there is unicode swastika
18:31 schestowitz_TR; but not the german one
18:31 matey; oh not unicode
18:31 schestowitz_TR; there is also a Russian swastika
18:31 schestowitz_TR; it's on my keyboard too
18:31 schestowitz_TR; bottom left
18:31 matey; yeah russian swastikas were originally used by texan guitarists with long beards
18:32 schestowitz_TR;
18:32 matey; they also played a flying V
18:32 schestowitz_TR;
18:32 schestowitz_TR;
18:32 schestowitz_TR; UTIN
18:33 matey; hardly
18:33 matey; imo the swastika fits him better
18:33 schestowitz_TR; Also commie
18:33 matey; though some people might associate the hammer and sickle with stalin
18:34 schestowitz_TR; http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/blogs/gotunicode/2007/06/how-the-swastika-got-into-unic.html
18:34 TR Bot; How the Swastika Got into Unicode - Got Unicode?
18:34 MinceR; well, his last name already ends in a rotated zwastika if you use latin letters
18:34 matey; commie commie commie commie commie chameleon
18:34 matey; you cant come and go
18:34 MinceR; and uppercase
18:34 schestowitz_TR; "I reject using the symbol in a Neo-Nazi context, but in the spirit of trying to undo a crime of culture, I made some Swastika symbol samples from various Asian fonts. These aren't nearly as toxic."
18:34 matey; because of the iron curtain
18:34 MinceR; rotated in space
18:34 MinceR; or something
18:34 *psydruid bows to the berkraut
18:35 MinceR; will there also be berbraten?
18:35 *psydruid was out all day
18:35 matey; his last name already ends in a rotated zwastika if you use latin letters <- or if you show the cyrillic letter in a mirror
18:35 psydruid; selbstverstndlich
18:35 matey; /me would love a sandwich
18:36 matey; wait. what?
18:36 MinceR; lol
18:37 matey; $ selbstverstndlich
18:37 matey; make it yourself
18:37 matey; $ sudo selbstverstndlich
18:37 matey; okay.
18:37 MinceR; :>
18:37 MinceR; make menuconfig not war
18:37 schestowitz_TR; no targets founbd
18:37 schestowitz_TR; (make)
18:38 matey; "I made some Swastika symbol samples from various Asian fonts. These aren't nearly as toxic."
18:38 matey; i know this is likely Problematic, but...
18:39 matey; how is one set of right angles more "toxic" than another, when its made of the same kinds of pixels?
18:39 matey; its all straight perpendicular lines, whether "asian" or "german" (okay, some are parallel)
18:39 matey; but ive never been to california, and thats why i dont "get it"
18:40 MinceR; maybe it's made from special pixels from India ("Aryan")
18:40 matey; so dell and samsung pixels
18:41 matey; technically both are asian
18:41 MinceR; dHell didn't exist yet, back then
18:41 MinceR; what a blessed time.
18:42 matey; no, they were delhi back then
18:42 MinceR; though a few million years earlier was even better, because back then there were no humans either
18:42 matey; now theyre magically dell-icious
18:43 matey; he should do a cameo. i think lucky could bring the brand back
18:43 matey; dell still exists, right?
18:45 matey; actaully i think they merged with "emc"
18:45 matey; which has to be in quotes because... german science
18:47 matey; /me figures "emc" is working with "intel"
18:48 MinceR; sadly, dHell still exists
18:49 matey; oh, scott, im glad youre here-- i was just dressing unironically as blofeld and unveiling my latest project, which i call "relativity"
18:49 MinceR; apparently there's plenty of demand for low quality laptops with no warranty
18:49 *psydruid wonders what exactly took place during his absence
18:49 MinceR; that's what the HISTORY command is for
18:49 matey; dont read the scrollback without vodka and popcorn
18:49 MinceR; lol
18:49 matey; in whatever amounts suit you
18:49 MinceR; also, we have logs on the website
18:49 psydruid; I'll just read it on gemini
18:49 MinceR; :>
18:50 matey; <psydruid> I'll just read it on gemin <- its closer to apollo 13
18:50 psydruid; oh, now it's all clear to me
18:51 psydruid; we will all be Germans or Russians soon
18:51 MinceR; how
18:51 psydruid; or both
18:51 matey; prussians, actually
18:51 psydruid; yes, Prussians
18:52 matey; prussia! pushing down on you, pulling down all of-- the apples
18:52 matey; dum dum dum! dum dum dum! da da dum! da da da dum!
18:53 MinceR; prussians are gone
18:53 matey; prussians are gone
18:53 matey; <- its all relative
18:53 matey; ^
18:53 matey; ->
18:54 MinceR; the prussian language is gone, the prussian identity is gone
18:55 schestowitz_TR; boney m
18:55 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YjaZNYSt7o0
18:55 TR Bot; "Russian Unicorn" a bad lip reading of Michael Bubl - Invidious
18:56 MinceR; it was a baltic language, btw
18:58 matey; theres a weird al parody of party in the usa, and a bad lip reading of party in the usa
18:58 matey; but theres no bad lip reading of weird al-- YET
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
18:59 matey; there is a rap battle where he plays isaac newton
19:00 matey; where he talks about "energy" and laws of "motion"
19:00 matey; and other crackpot pseudoscience
19:00 matey; "inertia" pfffffft
19:01 matey; if its "inert" its not moving! even i knew this in german preschool but somehow "universities" teach this nonsense
19:03 *MinceR throws a balloon filled with helium at matey
19:04 TR News; 2,120 EPO Workers Sign Petition to the National Delegates, Who Can Put an End to EPO Abuses (But Repeatedly Fail to Do So) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/suepo-committees-vs-sap/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/suepo-committees-vs-sap/
19:04 TR Bot; 2,120 EPO Workers Sign Petition to the National Delegates, Who Can Put an End to EPO Abuses (But Repeatedly Fail to Do So) | Techrights
19:05 matey; "from now on youll be history, youll be history"
19:05 matey; "what the fuck, this isnt nitrous"
19:05 MinceR; lol
19:05 MinceR; what it is though, is inert :>
19:06 matey; ooohhhhhhhh
19:06 matey; @ @
19:07 matey; what happens if a midget breathes helium: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629546/
19:07 TR Bot; & Order: Criminal Intent" Inert Dwarf (TV Episode 2004) - IMDb
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19:09 matey; they must be republicans https://www.universetoday.com/152467/white-dwarfs-can-continue-burning-hydrogen-even-after-theyre-dead/
19:09 TR Bot; White Dwarfs can Continue Burning Hydrogen, Even After They're Dead - Universe Today
19:10 matey; this sounds like profiling https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/news/1679/fast-spinning-brown-dwarfs-may-reveal-a-rotational-speed-limit/
19:10 TR Bot; Fast-Spinning Brown Dwarfs May Reveal a Rotational Speed Limit Exoplanet Exploration: Planets Beyond our Solar System
19:11 matey; if its not a speed limit its a busted tail light, etc
19:15 matey; www.quora.com/Is-the-Sun-a-yellow-dwarf-or-a-red-dwarf?share=1
19:15 matey; Answer (1 of 9): The sun is known as a yellow dwarf.
19:15 matey; scientists: bigoted af
19:18 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/24MorZd.jpeg
19:22 matey; keckobservatory.org/mystery_object_neither_star_nor_brown_dwarf/
19:22 matey; The white dwarf in EF Eri is a compressed, burnt-out remnant of a solar-type star that is now about the same diameter as the Earth, though it still emits copious amounts of visible light.
19:22 matey; white dwarf
19:22 matey; "kekobservatory"
19:22 matey; /me isnt fooled
19:23 matey; i bet its in arizona
19:24 TR News; [Meme] EPO All Backwards: Are National Delegates and the Administrative Council Just Puppets of the Office Theyre Meant to Govern? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-puppets/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-puppets/
19:24 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO All Backwards: Are National Delegates and the Administrative Council Just Puppets of the Office Theyre Meant to Govern? | Techrights
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19:29 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166438
19:29 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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20:18 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-lord
20:18 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Lord
20:20 XRevan86; https://theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/23/russian-navy-ordered-to-lay-mines-at-ukraines-black-sea-ports-says-us
20:20 TR Bot; Russian navy ordered to lay mines at Ukraines Black Sea ports, says US | Ukraine | The Guardian
20:25 TR News; Stories of my Chieftain, Tinytusks gemini://yretek.com/english/tinytusks.gmi
20:26 TR News; "The game was the first piece of apocalyptic media that really grabbed me; my computer could barely run it, but it was the first big budget game I followed closely during it's pre-release, in that nascent early period of mass marketing on the internet." gemini://pluviam95.smol.pub/entry5
20:27 TR News; "I've had my tape deck for around 4 months now, if memory serves. I don't know why I didn't opt in for one earlier, or how I did so long without one. For anybody who's interested in music production, or sound design, or audio science, a tape deck is a must-have." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1034
20:28 TR News; In The Case Of Online Classes gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/itco0
20:29 TR News; Security features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166439
20:29 TR Bot; Security features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Tux Machines
20:29 TR News; Clapper GTK Video App Bags Performance Boost in Latest Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166440
20:29 TR Bot; Clapper GTK Video App Bags Performance Boost in Latest Update | Tux Machines
20:31 TR News; The 5 Best Dictionary Apps for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166441
20:31 TR Bot; The 5 Best Dictionary Apps for Linux | Tux Machines
20:31 TR News; Theres a considerable amount of pushback against Antnio Campinos with his ludicrous policies; staff does not want him or his policies http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/suepo-committees-vs-sap/
20:31 TR Bot; 2,120 EPO Workers Sign Petition to the National Delegates, Who Can Put an End to EPO Abuses (But Repeatedly Fail to Do So) | Techrights
20:31 TR News; Next week the overseeing body of the EPO has a chance to prove its no longer subservient to the people it was supposed to regulate and control; its all backwards at the EPO, so crime is encouraged (for profit) and never punished for http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-puppets/
20:34 TR News; Lightweight Internet communications with the simple Gemini Protocol http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/261/Gemini-Protocol
20:35 TR Bot; Twins Linux Magazine
20:37 TR News; "Clement Lefebvre gives a brief history of Linux Mint and thanks the community that has grown up around the distribution." http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/261/Linux-Mint
20:37 TR Bot; Distro Walk Linux Mint Linux Magazine
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20:40 TR News; Startup crowdfunding high-refresh-rate e-paper monitors - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/24/modos_e_paper_monitors/ Source: theregister
20:40 TR Bot; Startup crowdfunding high-refresh-rate e-paper monitors The Register
20:41 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to EuroLinux 9.0." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qX-WFweeEac
20:41 TR Bot; How to install EuroLinux 9.0 - Invidious
20:41 TR News; New Issue of Linux Magazine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166442
20:41 TR Bot; New Issue of Linux Magazine | Tux Machines
20:42 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166443
20:42 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:44 TR News; "Citrix has released security updates to address vulnerabilities that could affect Hypervisor. An attacker could exploit one of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/24/citrix-releases-security-updates-hypervisor
20:44 TR Bot; Citrix Releases Security Updates for Hypervisor | CISA
20:46 TR News; "I'm very pleased to announce the release of a new version of GNU PSPP. PSPP is a program for statistical analysis of sampled data. It is a free replacement for the proprietary program SPSS." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10200
20:46 TR Bot; PSPP - News: PSPP 1.6.1 has been released. [Savannah]
20:47 TR News; Here We Go Again: Another Round of Changes Havent Solved the Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/here-we-go-again-another-round-of-changes-havent-solved-the-problems-with-the-jcpa/ Source: publicknowledge
20:47 TR Bot; Here We Go Again: Another Round of Changes Havent Solved the Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge
20:48 TR News; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/11] drm/i915: Add D3Cold-Off support for runtime-pm https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-June/300006.html Source: lists
20:48 TR Bot; [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/11] drm/i915: Add D3Cold-Off support for runtime-pm
20:52 TR News; The new classic confinement in snaps - Even the classics need a change | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-new-classic-confinement-in-snaps-even-the-classics-need-a-change Source: ubuntu
20:52 TR Bot; new classic confinement in snaps Even the classics need a change | Ubuntu
20:53 TR News; 6 Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/why-flatpaks-snaps-better-than-other-formats/ Source: makeuseof
20:53 TR Bot; 6 Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for Linux
20:55 TR News; Annotated Perl::Critic Policy Index | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/06/annotated-perlcritic-policy-index.html Source: perl
20:55 TR Bot; Perl::Critic Policy Index | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
20:58 TR News; KaOS Linux 2022.06 Is Here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345#comment-34125
20:58 TR Bot; KaOS 2022.06 | Tux Machines
20:58 TR News; "Heres your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-25/
20:58 TR Bot; Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-25 Fedora Community Blog
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
20:59 TR News; Classic Confinement in Snaps and Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166444
20:59 TR Bot; Classic Confinement in Snaps and Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines
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21:05 TR News; Linux Foundation lying about itself: "Founded in 2000..." no, it was founded 2007. LIE-NOX foundation https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lf-edge-releases-industry-defining-edge-computing-white-paper-to-accelerate-edge-iot-deployments-301574909.html
21:05 TR Bot; LF Edge Releases Industry-Defining Edge Computing White Paper to Accelerate Edge/ IoT Deployments
21:07 TR News; Honestly, let's just remove -O3 entirely. Enabling it, and then not even build-testing the result, is just about the *worst* possible case. That's just horrible." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+55aFz2sNBbZyg-_i8_Ldr2e8o9dfvdSfHHuRzVtP2VMAUWPg@mail.gmail.com/
21:07 TR Bot; Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kconfig: -O3 enablement - Linus Torvalds
21:11 TR News; "Bash Simple Curses is a simple curses library made in bash to draw terminal interfaces." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4G_cthFZeJ8
21:11 TR Bot; Transform Your Scripts With Bash Simple Curses - Invidious
21:11 TR News; PSPP 1.6.1 has been released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166445
21:11 TR Bot; PSPP 1.6.1 has been released | Tux Machines
21:12 DaemonFC; Okay, I got a bunch of Guinness Extra Stout on rebate.
21:13 schestowitz_TR; booze?
21:13 DaemonFC; It's been a while since I've had Guinness. But I think I like this better than the Guinness Draught.
21:13 schestowitz_TR; fattening and tastes baddd :-)
21:13 DaemonFC; It tastes more of hops.
21:14 DaemonFC; I don't like American beer too much.
21:14 TR News; Ransomware groups targeting Mitel VoIP zero-day - The Record by Recorded Future https://therecord.media/ransomware-groups-targeting-mitel-voip-zero-day/ Source: therecord
21:14 TR Bot; Ransomware groups targeting Mitel VoIP zero-day - The Record by Recorded Future
21:14 DaemonFC; They tend to base them on the cheapest thing they can get their hands on, which is usually corn.
21:16 DaemonFC; Very few hops in American beer. Just enough to be slightly bitter. So they have this overpowering sweetness to them from the corn.
21:16 DaemonFC; Gonad drank that swill and so I did sometimes just because he went through so much he never noticed me stealing it.
21:17 DaemonFC; So it was free and I wasn't old enough to buy alcohol, so that's what I drank.
21:17 TR News; Notepadqq - A powerful text editor, somewhat forgotten Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166446
21:17 TR Bot; Notepadqq - A powerful text editor, somewhat forgotten | Tux Machines
21:18 TR News; This Week in GNOME: #49 New Views Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166447
21:18 TR Bot; This Week in GNOME: #49 New Views | Tux Machines
21:18 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166448
21:18 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:22 TR News; todays leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166449
21:22 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
21:23 TR News; Links 24/06/2022: GNU PSPP 1.6.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/gnu-pspp-1-6-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/gnu-pspp-1-6-1/
21:23 TR Bot; Links 24/06/2022: GNU PSPP 1.6.1 | Techrights
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21:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166450
21:25 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:29 DaemonFC; https://www.wane.com/news/police-search-for-impala-related-to-huntington-homicide/
21:29 TR Bot; dead, 2 hurt in stabbing in Huntington; suspect caught | WANE 15
21:29 DaemonFC; A third victim died.
21:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, He killed 3 people and one is just barely hanging on, and he didn't use a gun.
21:29 DaemonFC; It was a knife.
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:30 DaemonFC; Maybe if he ran them over with his car the Democrats would demand a car control bill.
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21:30 MinceR; i thought the "democrats" had cars
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21:30 DaemonFC; You have to have a background check and be 21 to own a car, and if your family or some randome dickhead cop invokes red flag, they take your car away from you.
21:30 DaemonFC; :)
21:30 DaemonFC; MinceR, They do.
21:31 DaemonFC; *random
21:33 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/roe-v-wade-overturned/indiana-leaders-react-to-roe-v-wade-decision/
21:33 TR Bot; Indiana leaders react to Roe v. Wade decision | WGN-TV
21:33 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court decided today that women don't have the right to murder their children because they'll be an inconvenience. Maybe with a little planning, like contraception, or just s smidgen of self-control maybe, they won't be too affected by this. There is no constitutional right to murder. This was invented by Democrats in the 1970s and was allowed to go on for far too long.
21:34 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/20/stand-up-shorts-06-20-22/
21:34 TR Bot; 35 Stand-Up Jokes You Can Laugh At Without Setting Foot In A Comedy Club
21:35 XRevan86; https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-news-live-12541713?postid=4069892#liveblog-body "London will be bombed first in World War Three, Russian MP claims"
21:35 TR Bot; Ukraine news live: Moscow official 'assassinated' in car bombing - as Putin 'rewrites history lessons' | World News | Sky News
21:35 MinceR; if you think they'll be an inconvenience to parents who didn't want them, consider how much of an inconvenience the child's existence will be for the child
21:36 MinceR; living on a planet infested with over 8 billion humans, in a human body
21:36 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/wisconsin-doctors-halt-abortions-following-court-ruling/
21:36 TR Bot; Wisconsin doctors halt abortions following court ruling | WGN-TV
21:36 DaemonFC; A doctor takes an oath to do no harm. Murdering someone is harm. Therefore, they are not doctors. Throw them in prison.
21:36 MinceR; also, contraception is not murder
21:36 MinceR; but i suppose that's too difficult for a fundie to understand
21:37 DaemonFC; MinceR, Even Kevorkian was more ethical than an abortion doctor.
21:37 DaemonFC; Abortion doctors don't ask their victims if they want to die and kindly go away if they don't want to, but Kevorkian still got into a lot of trouble.
21:37 MinceR; what was unethical about Kevorkian?
21:38 MinceR; you fundies are absolutely obsessed with making people suffer and keeping them that way
21:38 MinceR; get some help.
21:38 DaemonFC; Kevorkian didn't do anything wrong.
21:38 DaemonFC; If the person didn't ask for his assistance then he wouldn't even be there in the first place.
21:38 MinceR; also, try talking to a blastocyst
21:38 MinceR; you won't get much of a response.
21:39 DaemonFC; The only person who has the right to decide if they want to die is a person who is capable of considering that question and deciding that they want to.
21:40 DaemonFC; Abortion is more like the Nazis not asking people if they wanted to die and then just putting a pillow on their face and sitting on it until they stopped struggling to breathe.
21:40 MinceR; a blastocyst is not a person
21:40 DaemonFC; I agree with the right to suicide, but not abortion.
21:40 MinceR; you listen to way too much "republican" propaganda
21:40 DaemonFC; It is very sad what happened to Robin Williams, but he had the right to do it.
21:41 DaemonFC; Maybe there was a medical treatment that would have delayed progression of the disease, and maybe there wasn't. But it was his decision.
21:41 DaemonFC; I think we need to respect decisions like that even if we disagree with them.
21:42 DaemonFC; Most of us have no idea what we'd do in those situations because we don't have all of the information. We aren't in that exact situation. We don't know how many doctors he spoke with or what the prognosis was, or if there were more years of his life which could have been relatively normal and pain-free with modern medical care.
21:43 DaemonFC; So I don't consider myself fit to stand in judgment over people who want assisted suicide. That's a choice they have to make for themselves.
21:44 DaemonFC; What I do know is that there can be no right to murder. Murder is the killing of another without their consent. It can't be tolerated, it can't be allowed.
21:44 DaemonFC; The people who do it should be hunted down like animals and have the entire law library thrown at them when they get in court.
21:46 DaemonFC; I don't consider those two positions at odds with each other, and this is why. It all goes down to consent. And damn any society that comes up with their idea of what one human life is worth because of how intelligent they consider them to be.
21:46 MinceR; then again, i guess christian fundamentalists are pushing so hard for the personhood of small clumps of mostly undifferentiated cells because they're afraid that they themselves would cease to be considered persons if some degree of coordinated neural activity was required
21:47 DaemonFC; Essentially, what you have with a human fetus is a human being that doesn't have fully formed "programming" yet, but it's a person nonetheless. Left alone, it would be born, it would develop consciousness, it would have a certain level of intelligence.
21:47 DaemonFC; At what point is disposing of this person wrong?
21:47 MinceR; not if it had a "republican" upbringing
21:47 MinceR; though i guess 0 is also a "certain level"
22:00 DaemonFC; The law changes very little, in fact.
22:00 DaemonFC; Those states had already passed so many regulations that many of them don't have a single abortion clinic remaining anyway.
22:01 DaemonFC; Illinois has been putting a bunch of abortion clinics right on the state lines.
22:01 DaemonFC; Basically, you can get from Houston to Chicago for $30, so it really doesn't put much of an additional burden except having to come up with some travel time and some pocket change.
22:03 DaemonFC; It's more of a statement than a decision of substance.
22:03 DaemonFC; Even when "RBG" was alive and refusing to retire so Obama could replace her, and then none of this would have happened, she allowed those states to do that.
22:17 DaemonFC; There's no party for me, MinceR. The Democrats and the Republicans are both a bunch of shitheads.
22:17 DaemonFC; There's nothing that's going to get better.
22:17 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/20/morning-funny-pic-dump-6-20-22/
22:17 TR Bot; Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
22:18 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court has not upset the status quo very much even though they did upend a landmark case.
22:18 DaemonFC; When Roe went in, abortion was only legal in four states.
22:18 DaemonFC; Today it will still be legal in about half, and that's where over 80% of the population lives.
22:19 DaemonFC; And it changes almost nothing because the clinics were gone in the states with trigger laws anyway.
22:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, Yeah, I was joking with mom about Gonad.
22:21 DaemonFC; I said he should have lived in Illinois.
22:21 DaemonFC; Sure it's more expensive, but with all the beer rebates, he would have come out ahead in the end.
22:22 DaemonFC; He drank so much beer that he could have gotten hundreds of dollars in rebates just one the beer.
22:22 DaemonFC; He had a can crusher and a recycling bin in the garage and it wasn't because he cared about the environment. He drove an 8 mpg truck.
22:23 DaemonFC; It was because he drank so much beer that he could fill a 30 gallon recycling bag quickly, take it over to the recycling facility over by Walmart, and buy more beer.
22:24 DaemonFC; I think Illinois just wants people to be drunk and stoned so they don't think about the politicians and the judges too much.
22:25 DaemonFC; If everyone in this state sobered up, we'd have ourselves a party where half the public officials would be hanged, and the other half would be tarred and feathered and then banished into Indiana.
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