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00:02 bnchs___; sometimes i feel like our lives will be short
00:05 TR News; The #Patent Distortion: Weekly Series About Failure of the Media to Properly Explain #Patents and Generally Cover the News Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/the-patent-distortion-part-2/ #Techrights #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/the-patent-distortion-part-2/
00:05 TR Bot; The Patent Distortion: Weekly Series About Failure of the Media to Properly Explain Patents and Generally Cover the News | Techrights
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00:24 bnchs___; lots of guests today
00:31 DaemonFC; https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940517/windows-11-pro-require-microsoft-account-internet-connection
00:31 TR Bot; Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account - The Verge
00:31 DaemonFC; LOL
00:32 MinceR; 21 005818 < XRevan86> The mum failed the intelligence test, yes.
00:32 MinceR; tested negative
00:32 bnchs___; DaemonFC: not really news
00:32 XRevan86; MinceR: :D
00:32 MinceR; MICROS~1 really doesn't want to release a Backdoors11 that people would have a desire or reason to use :>
00:32 bnchs___; microsoft has shown time to time that they're willing to make people to use their shitty service
00:33 bnchs___; like minecraft
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00:33 bnchs___; s/to//
00:33 bnchs___; fuck wrong regex
00:33 bnchs___; whatever
00:35 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: good
00:35 schestowitz-TR; so they will put off more people
00:35 schestowitz-TR; they already do
00:35 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/17/oddly-satisfying-photos/
00:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/17/oddly-satisfying-photos/
00:35 TR Bot; 30 Oddly Satisfying Photos To Please Your Retinas
00:35 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: can you read a draft?
00:35 bnchs___; they already put off people with their strict requirements of newer hardware
00:35 schestowitz-TR; it's about working from home
00:36 bnchs___; now they gonna put off more with the internet requirement and MS account requirement
00:36 bnchs___; almost as if they have a deathwish for their OS
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00:50 bnchs___; i like how gulagtube will tamper with your videos to remove any "copyrighted" music
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00:50 bnchs___; i was watching a video and almost got a heart attack when i heard something that i didn't hear last time when i watched the video
00:52 schestowitz-TR; welcome to the new world
00:52 schestowitz-TR; all sounds are "owned"
00:52 schestowitz-TR; and you are just a renter
00:53 TR News; #EPO Management Still Treats EPO Workers Poorly, Even During #Pandemic Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-dg1-concerns/ #Techrights #Europe #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-dg1-concerns/
00:53 TR Bot; EPO Management Still Treats EPO Workers Poorly, Even During Pandemic | Techrights
00:56 bnchs___; yes
00:56 bnchs___; but do they really go as far as to manipulate the video to remove the copyrighted sounds?
01:03 schestowitz-TR; weird
01:03 schestowitz-TR; I did not hear of such a thing
01:03 schestowitz-TR; for somemm videos they just muted all the sound
01:03 schestowitz-TR; or maybe parts of it
01:04 schestowitz-TR; anyway, do not upload stuff there
01:04 schestowitz-TR; they also have tons of false positives
01:04 bnchs___; they replaced it with some royalty-free music
01:04 bnchs___; s/replaced/replace/
01:06 bnchs___; unfortunately this also means some of the information gets lost
01:11 bnchs___; goodnight
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01:18 schestowitz-TR; as if gulag cares about informatio
01:18 schestowitz-TR; maybe it did in the 90s
01:18 schestowitz-TR; it soon became all about money
01:22 TR News; [Meme] EPO Upskilling Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-upskilling/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Patents #Patent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-upskilling/
01:22 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Upskilling | Techrights
01:30 TR News; Links 20/2/2022: #IPFire Test Release and #PeaZip 8.5.0 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/peazip-8-5-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/peazip-8-5-0/
01:30 TR Bot; Links 20/2/2022: IPFire Test Release and PeaZip 8.5.0 | Techrights
01:31 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161679 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:31 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
01:31 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161680 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
01:31 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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01:48 Ariadne; GPLv3 section 10 has been thrown out by the US circuit court of appeals: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.335295/gov.uscourts.cand.335295.140.0.pdf
01:48 Ariadne; it turns out the court was not moved by the idea that you can just delete further license restrictions not in the GPL
01:48 Ariadne; go figure
01:49 schestowitz-TR; what isd this cas'es context?
01:49 schestowitz-TR; new case?
01:50 Ariadne; Neo4J is licensed under AGPL and Commons Clause, somebody forked it and dropped Commons Clause
01:50 Ariadne; citing GPL section 10 as allowing them to do so
01:50 Ariadne; Neo4J sued the fork author
01:51 Ariadne; court agreed, ruled GPL section 10 is nonsense
01:52 schestowitz-TR; so wait
01:52 schestowitz-TR; it's not as simple as just GPL having an invalid bit
01:52 schestowitz-TR; but some combination as interpreted by a not-so-high court
01:53 Ariadne; the point is the GPLv3 section 10 means a fork cannot add additional restrictions
01:53 schestowitz-TR; Commons Clause is BS
01:53 Ariadne; but you cant use section 10 to remove additional restrictions imposed by the original author
01:53 Ariadne; which is a reasonable interpretation
01:53 Ariadne; and yes, commons clause sucks
01:53 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-available_software
01:53 TR Bot; Source-available software - Wikipedia
01:53 schestowitz; proprietary
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01:54 Ariadne; https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.335295/gov.uscourts.cand.335295.118.0.pdf
01:54 Ariadne; original ruling
01:55 MinceR; does this mean that the GPLv3's measures against patent abuse/treachery are weakened?
01:55 schestowitz; "GitLab Inc. openly discloses that the EE License makes their Enterprise Edition product "proprietary, closed source code."[11] However, the company makes the source code of the Community Edition public, as well as the repository's issue tracker, and allows users to modify the source code.[12] The dual release of the closed-source Enterprise Edition and the open-source Community Edition makes GitLab an open core company."
01:55 schestowitz; Open Core
01:55 schestowitz; a new term for proprietary+openwashng
01:56 MinceR; not that new
01:56 schestowitz; so now every company that makes proprietary software and has some "open" mportal can mislabel itself
01:56 schestowitz; that's why we need to abolish the term "Open Source"
01:56 schestowitz; and OSI has been dead for 2 years
02:08 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161681 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
02:08 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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02:12 DaemonFC; TIL: Mac OS is an even bigger piece of shit than I thought. Part 4872.
02:12 DaemonFC; It dumps dot files everywhere because Apple's fancy new file system still doesn't make proper use of journaling and XATTRs. Then when you back the folders up to Google Drive, it misinterprets the dot files as copyright infringing and deletes them, making a proper restoration of the folder data impossible later on.
02:14 DaemonFC; The idiots at the Ninth Circus court strike again.
02:14 DaemonFC; Trump appointed a bunch to try to turn it into another right wing appeals court.
02:14 DaemonFC; He didn't quite finish. He left four empty seats for Biden to fill.
02:15 MinceR; lol
02:15 DaemonFC; If the case was decided by a panel of three judges, the easiest way to respond would be to appeal for the full court to reconsider, which is hilarious, because it's also got the most judges of any federal court in the country.
02:15 DaemonFC; And so like two dozen or so judges would have to consider this.
02:18 DaemonFC; MinceR, It's the largest appeals court in the country.
02:19 DaemonFC; It was structured that way back when the western states were sparsely populated.
02:19 DaemonFC; There have been efforts to split it into two appeals courts, but they always stall out.
02:19 DaemonFC; I was wrong. If the entire court had to consider this, it would be 29 judges.
02:24 DaemonFC; The Republicans recently (2017) tried to split the court up, put a bunch of the red states in a new "12th circuit" and then create a bunch of empty seats on the new 12th circuit for Trump to fill.
02:25 DaemonFC; They say they were happy with the damage they did to the Supreme Court, and they are.
02:26 DaemonFC; But they would really have loved four more years to pack the lower courts too.
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-200222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-200222.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 20, 2022
02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-200222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-200222.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 20, 2022
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-200222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-200222.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 20, 2022
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, February 20, 2022
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-20.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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04:15 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-golang-botnet-empties-windows-users-cryptocurrency-wallets/
04:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-golang-botnet-empties-windows-users-cryptocurrency-wallets/
04:15 TR Bot; New Golang botnet empties Windows users cryptocurrency wallets
04:49 psydroid8; https://commonsclause.com/
04:49 TR Bot; Commons Clause License
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04:55 psydroid8; so that means an AGPLv4 should be worked on that is clearer with respect to section 10?
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07:25 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, February 20, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:25 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:25 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:25 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:26 schestowitz-TR; [04:15] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Golang botnet empties Windows users cryptocurrency wallets
07:26 schestowitz-TR; because they used Windows
07:26 schestowitz-TR; why blame programming language?
07:26 schestowitz-TR; This is why we shun this Microsoft propaganda site
07:28 TR News; Today we resume last weeks experimental series in which we review patent 'news' along with related news Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/the-patent-distortion-part-2/ #Techrights #patent #patents #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/the-patent-distortion-part-2/
07:28 TR Bot; The Patent Distortion: Weekly Series About Failure of the Media to Properly Explain Patents and Generally Cover the News | Techrights
07:29 TR News; A candid letter from the EPOs staff representatives helps shed light on how staff of the EPO feels, with particular focus on DG1 colleagues in Job Groups 5 and 6 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-dg1-concerns/ #Techrights #europe #epo #patents #patent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-dg1-concerns/
07:29 TR Bot; EPO Management Still Treats EPO Workers Poorly, Even During Pandemic | Techrights
07:29 TR News; #EPO management is wasting the time of staff and is doing illegal things while increasing the staff's stress levels Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-upskilling/ #Techrights #patents #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/epo-upskilling/
07:30 TR Bot; [Meme] EPO Upskilling | Techrights
07:34 TR News; NEWS #MartijnBraam #IPv6 Going IPv6 only https://blog.brixit.nl/going-ipv6-only/
07:34 TR Bot; Going IPv6 only
07:35 TR News; NEWS #NSH #BSD nsh https://www.nmedia.net/nsh/
07:35 TR Bot; NSH :: Network Shell :: Command Line Interface for OpenBSD routers
07:35 TR News; NEWS #NSH #BSD nsh https://www.nmedia.net/nsh/
07:36 schestowitz; NEWS #NokiaMob #Mobile Nokia, #Jolla and HERE are at MWC2022 https://nokiamob.net/2022/02/20/nokia-jolla-and-here-are-at-mwc2022/
07:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nokiamob.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nokiamob.net/2022/02/20/nokia-jolla-and-here-are-at-mwc2022/
07:36 TR Bot; Nokia, Jolla and HERE are at MWC2022 | Nokiamob
07:36 TR News; NEWS #ABC #Mobile At Olympics, cybersecurity worries linger in background https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/olympics-cybersecurity-worries-linger-background-83021033
07:36 TR Bot; At Olympics, cybersecurity worries linger in background - ABC News
07:36 TR News; NEWS #DLang #Programming How I Taught the D Programming Language at a Russian University https://dlang.org/blog/2022/02/19/how-i-taught-the-d-programming-language-at-a-russian-university/
↺ https://dlang.org/blog/2022/02/19/how-i-taught-the-d-programming-language-at-a-russian-university/
07:37 TR Bot; How I Taught the D Programming Language at a Russian University | The D Blog
07:38 TR News; #Microsoft #Windows TCO: Now the neocons make up words: "cyber invasion" https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/02/20/ukraine-braces-for-cyber-invasion see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
07:38 Alternative link; Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/02/20/ukraine-braces-for-cyber-invasion
07:38 TR Bot; braces for cyber invasion | The Economist
07:38 TR Bot; Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
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07:54 TR News; "people aren't going to get the truth from twitter" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-190222.html#tFeb%2019%2013:32:26
07:54 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 19, 2022
07:55 TR News; #twitter funded by #billgates for his propaganda: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
07:55 TR Bot; Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
07:57 TR News; #TheHill has just done a #billgates says-type piece re #covid19 and the problem is, he is 1) #pandemic profiteer 2) not an expert 3) a criminal. So The Hill legitimises 1+2+3.
07:58 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 20, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/irc-log-200222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/irc-log-200222/
07:58 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, February 20, 2022 | Techrights
08:03 TR News; #Bosch subsidiary offers the following apps for #surveillance cameras to authorities & businesses worldwide https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107812686908911851
08:03 TR Bot; Breyer: "#Bosch subsidiary offers the following apps for" - chaos.social
08:06 psydroid8; Bill Gates says he's an asshole
08:06 schestowitz-TR; should we care?
08:07 schestowitz-TR; is he an arsehole expert?
08:07 psydroid8; We should believe him for once
08:07 schestowitz-TR; iirc, his personal engineer was collecting videos of anal on young boys
08:07 psydroid8; Yes
08:07 schestowitz-TR; according to seattle media
08:09 TR News; #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 20th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161682 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:09 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 20th, 2022 | Tux Machines
08:09 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #DMCA Judge: Jehovahs Witness Parodies Are Fair Use. Watch Tower: So What? https://torrentfreak.com/judge-jehovahs-witness-parodies-are-fair-use-watch-tower-so-what-220220/
08:09 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/judge-jehovahs-witness-parodies-are-fair-use-watch-tower-so-what-220220/
08:09 TR Bot; Jehovahs Witness Parodies Are Fair Use. Watch Tower: So What? * TorrentFreak
08:09 DaemonFC; The Chicago Botanical Gardens has changed their admission structure. It costs over $100 now for a family of 4 to visit the garden for a day.
08:09 DaemonFC; It was $20 for however many people you could fit in a car.
08:10 DaemonFC; They realize they have an outdoor attraction that's going to be more popular because of COVID.
08:10 DaemonFC; They have Pritzker's name all over the place.
08:10 DaemonFC; Like everything else in the county.
08:10 schestowitz-TR; meh
08:10 schestowitz-TR; stay home
08:10 schestowitz-TR; let the system run its course
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08:26 TR News; #GNUGuile -SDL 0.6.1 available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161683 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:26 TR Bot; GNU Guile-SDL 0.6.1 available | Tux Machines
08:42 TR News; Almost 1,750 now!! "There are 2139 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1748 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
08:47 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 11.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 271.74
08:50 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/kilijanek/status/1495675397333209088#m
08:50 TR Bot; Kili (@kilijanek): "I wonder if Russia remembers all treaties as well as in Denmark case - e.g. if they remember that Russia in 1992 guaranteed Ukraine territorial integrity in exchange for nuclear weapons stored in Ukraine during USSR existence, so they need to return Crimea peninsula to Ukraine." | nitter
08:54 TR News; Review: Running guest distributions with Distrobox Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161684 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:54 TR Bot; Review: Running guest distributions with Distrobox | Tux Machines
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09:08 TR News; "I have written about this technology before. It isnt anything new. Now, a little over a week ago, it was revealed that in the year 2020, Intel had reported a half-billion dollar loss on its Optane 3D XPoint business. Yikes! Also, Intels Optane head left the company." https://koutoupis.com/2022/02/21/intel-optane-a-restrictive-licensing-model-and-the-half-billion-dollar-operating-loss-in-2020/
09:08 TR Bot; Intel Optane: A Restrictive Licensing Model and the Half Billion Dollar Operating Loss in 2020 Random [Tech] Stuff
09:09 schestowitz-TR; psydroid8: ^^
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09:18 TR News; Ryujinx: Great Strides With Vulkan - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/ryujinx-great-strides-with-vulkan/ #boilingsteam #games #gnu #linux
09:18 TR Bot; Ryujinx: Great Strides With Vulkan - Boiling Steam
09:18 TR News; Why I love KDE for my Linux desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161685 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:18 TR Bot; Why I love KDE for my Linux desktop | Tux Machines
09:19 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161686 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:19 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
09:22 psydroid2; I watched that video by Brody about Asahi Linux this morning
09:22 TR News; "We put the sports car of #Linux laptops to the test. Is it the multi-tasking machine it claims to be?" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147702/kudu-cores-and-cloud-wars-linux-unplugged-446/
09:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/147702/kudu-cores-and-cloud-wars-linux-unplugged-446/
09:23 TR Bot; Kudu Cores and Cloud Wars | LINUX Unplugged 446 | Jupiter Broadcasting
09:23 psydroid2; Apple tarts are afraid that GNU/Linux runs better on their hardware than macOS
09:23 schestowitz-TR; hmm
09:23 psydroid2; which is already the case but when an installer becomes available that makes it easy, many people will be buying that hardware for running GNU/Linux
09:24 psydroid2; GNU/Linux runs really fast on that hardware
09:24 psydroid2; I watched another video about it running in a VM
09:24 psydroid2; nothing from Intel or AMD comes close
09:24 psydroid2; I think that's what Ariadne was alluding to a few months ago
09:25 Ariadne; apple inc is not afraid of that
09:25 Ariadne; apple inc wants to sell laptops
09:25 psydroid2; Apple fanboys
09:25 schestowitz-TR; apple announced losses months ago
09:26 schestowitz-TR; iow, openly admitting it had lost money
09:26 schestowitz-TR; a lot of wall street is a fraud at this stage
09:26 schestowitz-TR; the sad thing is
09:26 schestowitz-TR; many bonds and mutual funds and pensions are tied to this fraud
09:26 schestowitz-TR; so a collapse would be worse than in 2008
09:26 schestowitz-TR; the middle class is about to have savings wiped out
09:27 schestowitz-TR; because the oligarchs empties the cookie jars and wrote themselves checks off national debt
09:27 psydroid2; and itself wiped out?
09:27 schestowitz-TR; which is over 30 trillion btw, not even counting state-level debt
09:27 psydroid2; becoming part of the lower class?
09:27 schestowitz-TR; which is another 2 trillion iirc
09:27 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: rianne and I spoke about it minutes ago
09:28 schestowitz-TR; she watches programmes about it
09:28 schestowitz-TR; people who stopped bathing
09:28 schestowitz-TR; in the UK
09:28 schestowitz-TR; it's too expensivbe
09:28 schestowitz-TR; the real price of food and energy was hidden
09:28 schestowitz-TR; due to subsidies
09:28 schestowitz-TR; off our tax
09:28 schestowitz-TR; now we don't have that
09:28 schestowitz-TR; and people realise how expensive it is to heaat up a home
09:28 schestowitz-TR; or buy decent foods
09:28 schestowitz-TR; iirc, bread or wheat still get subsidies
09:29 schestowitz-TR; the people who stopped bathing use winter coats to hide the odor w
09:29 schestowitz-TR; when they go shoop for food
09:29 psydroid2; that's terrible
09:29 schestowitz-TR; now with the storm there's lots of damage
09:29 schestowitz-TR; things you MUST buy to repair and replace
09:29 psydroid2; I need to shower at least once a day and usually twice
09:29 schestowitz-TR; and people already on shoestring budgets cannot afford the repeair
09:29 schestowitz-TR; and insurance won't cover it
09:30 schestowitz-TR; many insurance companies only cover damage over some threshold
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09:30 schestowitz-TR; like 200 pounds
09:30 schestowitz-TR; so unless your roof got blown off, you are on your own
09:30 schestowitz-TR; my video yesterday was in two partd
09:30 psydroid2; this makes the case for cheap but durable and repairable electronics
09:30 schestowitz-TR; because during the storm the seiling had a leak
09:30 schestowitz-TR; coming through the lamp
09:30 schestowitz-TR; this was new!
09:31 schestowitz-TR; I had to stop the video
09:31 psydroid2; wow
09:31 schestowitz-TR; I could hear the dripping
09:31 psydroid2; is your house old?
09:31 schestowitz-TR; then I look and go, oh shit
09:31 schestowitz-TR; but not saying it
09:31 schestowitz-TR; "gonna have to stop the video and resume later
09:31 schestowitz-TR; not exact quote
09:31 psydroid2; many houses in Dublin were old when I was there
09:31 schestowitz-TR; you can hear the winds loudly blowing
09:32 schestowitz-TR; the leak stopped
09:32 schestowitz-TR; but the damage was surely done
09:32 schestowitz-TR; so now on top of covid19 you have building damage
09:32 psydroid2; I hope this is covered by insurance
09:32 psydroid2; yeah
09:32 schestowitz-TR; I read some articles about post-eunice damage
09:32 schestowitz-TR; and this thing is still ongoing as franklin iirc
09:33 psydroid2; it is
09:33 psydroid2; I can hear the wind
09:33 schestowitz-TR; we had to call off food shopping 2-3 times already
09:33 schestowitz-TR; and eat off the freezer
09:33 schestowitz-TR; the geeze are flying in panic
09:33 schestowitz-TR; *geese
09:34 schestowitz-TR; anyway, it all started when we talked about apple
09:34 schestowitz-TR; their sales will continue to fall
09:34 schestowitz-TR; more quarter will show lossesa
09:34 schestowitz-TR; and just like FB the shares will plunge sooner or later
09:34 schestowitz-TR; when FB announced it Twitter aand Snapchat reacted also
09:34 schestowitz-TR; it was a bubble
09:35 schestowitz-TR; people won't be able to spend $2000 on "apple"-branded shit when the root leaks
09:35 schestowitz-TR; priorities kind of change
09:35 psydroid2; x86 hardware is expensive in many cases too
09:35 schestowitz-TR; *rof
09:35 schestowitz-TR; (roof
09:35 psydroid2; this is what I don't get
09:35 schestowitz-TR; and energy bill
09:35 schestowitz-TR; sdont' forget nthe cost of power went up
09:35 Ariadne; actually, the M1 laptops are cheaper than their x86 equivalents in most cases
09:35 psydroid2; worse performance and higher prices than Apple
09:35 schestowitz-TR; rianne now uses raspi 400 some of the time
09:35 psydroid2; yes
09:35 schestowitz-TR; Ariadne: but most people don't need m1
09:36 Ariadne; cheaper and simpler, more open firmware than UEFI
09:36 schestowitz-TR; to suft the web
09:36 schestowitz-TR; unless they use some really horrible mess
09:36 schestowitz-TR; like "Webapps"
09:36 Ariadne; i don't know about that, the modern web is quite bloat
09:36 schestowitz-TR; that max up 4 cpu cores
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09:36 schestowitz-TR; bbiab morning workout... with our 1994 streo set :-)
09:37 schestowitz-TR; (samsung)
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10:20 TR News; Top chipmakers ignore #India s semiconductor subsidies - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/21/india_semiconductor_subsidies/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
10:20 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/21/india_semiconductor_subsidies/
10:20 TR Bot; Top chipmakers ignore Indias semiconductor subsidies The Register
10:20 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
10:21 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about the Coinbase Super Bowl ad. It was a QR code, lots of security people were aghast at how many people scanned the QR code. The reality is scanning QR codes isnt dangerous. What other security advice just wont go away?" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/02/20/episode-311-did-you-scan-the-qr-code/
10:21 TR Bot; Episode 311 Did you scan the QR code? Open Source Security
10:22 TR News; Immersive Stereo Sound Recording With This Binaural Microphone | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/immersive-stereo-sound-recording-with-this-binaural-microphone/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
10:22 TR Bot; Stereo Sound Recording With This Binaural Microphone | Hackaday
10:23 TR News; Can I use #NVIDIA #GeForce Experience software on Ubuntu? - LinuxStoney https://linuxstoney.com/can-i-use-nvidia-geforce-experience-software-on-ubuntu/ #linuxstoney #gnu #linux
10:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxstoney.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxstoney.com/can-i-use-nvidia-geforce-experience-software-on-ubuntu/
10:23 TR Bot; I use NVIDIA GeForce Experience software on Ubuntu? - LinuxStoney
10:27 TR News; Wrong way to do #xmpp and use of #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware contributes to mistrust (re #security and more) https://medevel.com/https-conversejs-org/ #deletegithub
10:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/https-conversejs-org/
10:27 TR Bot; Converse.js: An open-source XMPP client for building in-browser messaging apps
10:28 TR News; Primed for locational #surveillance https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/21/low-power-satellite-iot-soc-works-with-totums-low-earth-orbit-leo-network/ also, not #linux related
10:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/21/low-power-satellite-iot-soc-works-with-totums-low-earth-orbit-leo-network/
10:28 TR Bot; Low-power satellite IoT SoC works with Totums Low Earth Orbit (LEO) network - CNX Software
10:31 TR News; You can use Markdown to format your post Public Share
10:32 schestowitz; The USB-C Connectors You Never Knew You Wanted To Avoid | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/the-usb-c-connectors-you-never-knew-you-wanted-to-avoid/ #hackaday
10:32 TR Bot; USB-C Connectors You Never Knew You Wanted To Avoid | Hackaday
10:34 TR News; #Mold 1.1 is out, but it needs to #deletegithub because #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware is totally unsuitable for #freesw coding http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
10:34 TR Bot; Delete Github - Techrights
10:37 TR News; #Kazakhstan 's Internet Shutdowns Could Be a Warning for #Ukraine - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/technology/kazakhstan-internet-russia-ukraine.html #nytimes propaganda machine ramping up against #russia now (see top of page)
10:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/technology/kazakhstan-internet-russia-ukraine.html
10:37 TR Bot; Kazakhstan's Internet Shutdowns Could Be a Warning for Ukraine - The New York Times
10:38 TR News; India's war on the internet https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/newsletters/ettech-unwrapped/indias-war-on-the-internet/articleshow/89671072.cms #economictimes #india #internet
10:38 TR Bot; Indias war on the internet
10:39 TR News; Whats next for the #EU s DSA? - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/whats-next-for-the-eus-dsa/ #accessnow | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
10:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/whats-next-for-the-eus-dsa/
10:39 TR Bot; What's next for the EU's DSA? - Access Now
10:40 TR News; You can use Markdown to format your post Public Share
10:40 schestowitz; #Linux developers faster at fixing security bugs than #Microsoft and #Apple https://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/434634-linux-developers-faster-at-fixing-security-bugs-than-microsoft-and-apple.html #mybroadband | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
10:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mybroadband.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/434634-linux-developers-faster-at-fixing-security-bugs-than-microsoft-and-apple.html
10:40 TR Bot; Linux developers faster at fixing security bugs than Microsoft and Apple
10:41 TR News; #HalfLife 2 and the episodes get updated and HL2 now Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/half-life-2-and-the-episodes-get-updated-and-hl2-now-steam-deck-verified/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
10:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/half-life-2-and-the-episodes-get-updated-and-hl2-now-steam-deck-verified/
10:41 TR Bot; 2 and the episodes get updated and HL2 now Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux
10:53 TR News; #gulag (Google) itself has put back doored 'encryption' inside #linux https://fossbytes.com/linux-developers-faster-than-apple-google/
10:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fossbytes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fossbytes.com/linux-developers-faster-than-apple-google/
10:53 TR Bot; Linux Developers Fix Bugs Faster Than Apple & Google: Report
11:00 TR News; #vista11 Pro will soon force you to have a #Microsoft account for installation | PC Gamer https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-pro-will-soon-force-you-to-have-a-microsoft-account-for-installation/ #pcgamer on Microsoft putting off its own serfs http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/
11:00 TR Bot; Windows 11 Pro will soon force you to have a Microsoft account for installation | PC Gamer
11:00 TR Bot; Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights
11:01 TR News; When #ibm is done getting rid of its so-called "dinobabies" it'll try to eliminate everybody else https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/it-jobs-7-hot-automation-skills-2022 see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism
11:01 TR Bot; IT jobs: 7 hot automation skills in 2022 | The Enterprisers Project
11:01 TR Bot; IBM - Techrights
11:03 TR News; #ibm #redhat : "Reimagine your traditional structures and hierarchies" = get rid of older workers? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/2/digital-transformation-4-ways-accelerate-your-progress-2022 see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism
11:03 TR Bot; Digital transformation: 4 ways to accelerate your progress in 2022 | The Enterprisers Project
11:05 TR News; #OAuth consent #phishing , in the wild | Pen Test Partners https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/oauth-consent-phishing-in-the-wild/ #pentestpartners | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
11:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/oauth-consent-phishing-in-the-wild/
11:05 TR Bot; OAuth consent phishing, in the wild | Pen Test Partners
11:07 TR News; Best #FreeSW Alternatives to #SwiftKey - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-alternatives-microsoft-swiftkey/ #LinuxLinks #GNU #Linux
11:07 TR Bot; Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft SwiftKey - LinuxLinks
11:08 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161687 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:08 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
11:12 TR News; OMG. More #buzzword chaining: "AI in the edge"... about #HARDWARE https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/21/stmicro-intelligent-sensor-processing-unit-ispu-combines-mems-sensor-with-dsp-for-ai-in-the-edge/
11:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/02/21/stmicro-intelligent-sensor-processing-unit-ispu-combines-mems-sensor-with-dsp-for-ai-in-the-edge/
11:12 TR Bot; STMicro Intelligent Sensor Processing Unit (ISPU) combines MEMS sensor with DSP for AI "in the edge" - CNX Software
11:23 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161688 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
11:23 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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12:56 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161689 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
12:56 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
12:57 TR News; Community Member Monday: Nnamani Ezinne Martina Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161690 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
12:57 TR Bot; Community Member Monday: Nnamani Ezinne Martina | Tux Machines
12:59 TR News; Compact 3D Printed Raspberry Pi Case Using The Kywoo3D Tycoon Slim Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161691 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
12:59 TR Bot; Compact 3D Printed Raspberry Pi Case Using The Kywoo3D Tycoon Slim | Tux Machines
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13:20 TR News; Links 21/2/2022: GNU Guile-SDL 0.6.1 and Windows Woes in #Ukraine Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/gnu-guile-sdl-0-6-1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/gnu-guile-sdl-0-6-1/
13:20 TR Bot; Links 21/2/2022: GNU Guile-SDL 0.6.1 and Windows Woes in Ukraine | Techrights
13:21 TR News; #FreeSoftware : SwiftKey Alternatives, nsh, Converse.js Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161692 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:21 TR Bot; Software: SwiftKey Alternatives, nsh, Converse.js | Tux Machines
13:21 TR News; #Microsoft and #Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161693 #TuxMachines
13:22 TR Bot; Microsoft and Security | Tux Machines
13:23 TR News; You can use Markdown to format your post Public Share
13:23 schestowitz; #Games: Ryujinx, Half-Life 2, and #NVIDIA Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161694 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:23 TR Bot; Games: Ryujinx, Half-Life 2, and NVIDIA | Tux Machines
13:23 TR News;
13:24 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161695 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:24 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
13:27 TR News; Today Begins a Battle for Rights of #Patent Examiners at the EPO Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/patent-examiners-fight-back/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/patent-examiners-fight-back/
13:27 TR Bot; Today Begins a Battle for Rights of Patent Examiners at the EPO | Techrights
13:31 TR News; #Internxt is an Open Source Encrypted Clown Service With Native Linux Client Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161696 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:31 TR Bot; Internxt is an Open Source Encrypted Cloud Service With Native Linux Client | Tux Machines
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13:55 bnchs; tor browser doesn't work on pure Xorg computers anymore
13:55 bnchs; it requires a little bit of wayland
13:57 SomeH4x0r; because fuck Firefox
13:57 XRevan86; bnchs: Huh?
14:01 bnchs; when you run tor browser on a pure Xorg GNU/Linux: it will crash because of non-existant wayland functions
14:01 bnchs; "/somepath/tor/libxul.so: undefined symbol: gdk_wayland_display_get_wl_compositor"
14:01 bnchs; you either have to compile it with wayland
14:02 bnchs; or make a shim library and link tor browser with it
14:02 XRevan86; bnchs: Undefined symbol, eh?
14:02 bnchs; yes
14:03 XRevan86; bnchs: So ye patched GDK to remove everything that is related to Wayland?
14:03 bnchs; no
14:03 bnchs; this happens when you compile gdk without wayland
14:03 bnchs; #ifdefs
14:04 XRevan86; I guess when Firefox is compiled it should check whether that's the case and #ifdef accordingly.
14:05 MinceR; maybe it's time to explore the remaining free unixes
14:05 XRevan86; Strange that Gentoo users haven't complained to them.
14:05 MinceR; maybe gentoo was taken over already
14:05 XRevan86; Taken over by ?
14:05 bnchs; i'm gonna dig in the firefox source code
14:06 MinceR; by the ibm/deadrat drones
14:07 XRevan86; Who in turn made USE=wayland mandatory? Is that your implication?
14:08 MinceR; their tricks aren't always so straightforward
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14:15 bnchs; the issue is
14:15 bnchs; gentoo compiles tor browser with MOZ_WAYLAND macro defined
14:15 bnchs; even though it doesnt have wayland
14:15 XRevan86; bnchs: Sounds like a bugreport.
14:15 bnchs; https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/40693
14:16 TR Bot; Potential Wayland dependency (#40693) Issues The Tor Project / Applications / Tor Browser GitLab
14:16 bnchs; they already reported it
14:16 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161698 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:16 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
14:16 MinceR; it was a mistake to build tor browser on top of failfox
14:17 XRevan86; bnchs: Wait, these are official pre-built binaries?
14:17 bnchs; or maybe tor builds tor browser with MOZ_WAYLAND
14:18 XRevan86; bnchs: Well, there's nothing to complain about in that case.
14:18 XRevan86; Other than "Wayland exists, sucks".
14:19 bnchs; even then i'm pretty sure they should add code to checking if the symbol exists
14:20 XRevan86; bnchs: That would be in runtime then.
14:20 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161699 #Linux #TuxMachines
14:20 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:20 bnchs; yes
14:20 bnchs; the code uses dlsym()
14:21 bnchs; they can try checking if the dlsym'd handle is NULL
14:21 bnchs; or if dlerror() doesn't return NULL
14:23 TR News; Community Member Monday: Nnamani Ezinne Martina Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161697 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:23 TR Bot; Community Member Monday: Nnamani Ezinne Martina | Tux Machines
14:23 XRevan86; https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/gfx/gl/GLContextProviderEGL.cpp#l826-L831 doesn't look very dlsym-y to me.
14:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/gfx/gl/GLContextProviderEGL.cpp#l826-L831
14:23 TR Bot; mozilla-central: gfx/gl/GLContextProviderEGL.cpp@da294804f2612d86706d443568b399123212757e
14:24 SomeH4x0r; don't bother with the "modern" web
14:25 bnchs; not that code
14:27 bnchs; https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/widget/gtk/WidgetUtilsGtk.cpp#l62
14:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/widget/gtk/WidgetUtilsGtk.cpp#l62
14:27 TR Bot; mozilla-central: widget/gtk/WidgetUtilsGtk.cpp@da294804f2612d86706d443568b399123212757e
14:32 TR News; After over a decade of relentless assaults on very basic rights of #EPO workers we're seeing industrial action, which is akin to civil disobedience (refusing to obey illegal instructions from EPO management) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/patent-examiners-fight-back/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/patent-examiners-fight-back/
14:33 TR Bot; Today Begins a Battle for Rights of Patent Examiners at the EPO | Techrights
14:33 XRevan86; bnchs: This piece of code wouldn't cause "undefined symbol" though.
14:33 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/812109.jpg
14:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/812109.jpg
14:33 XRevan86; bnchs: And it's not even the same one.
14:33 bnchs; i'm not really sure
14:34 bnchs; maybe i was wrong
14:34 XRevan86; bnchs: Well, looks like the original intention was in fact to avoid the thing ye experienced.
14:37 bnchs; "Linking to the shared library that provides gdk_wayland_display_get_wl_compositor is a compile time dependency. Guarding it with (runtime) code does not solve the issue as the library is searched for on ELF load, not during execution. This is why it is guarded with the preprocessor #define MOZ_GTK_WAYLAND, which in turn is guarded by MOZ_WAYLAND, which is a configure option. Presumably this has been recently turned on by default due to the newer
14:37 bnchs; Firefox."
14:41 TR News; support
14:41 bnchs; support?
14:41 TR News; Don't expect GOG to support the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/dont-expect-gog-to-support-the-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
14:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/dont-expect-gog-to-support-the-steam-deck
14:41 TR Bot; expect GOG to support the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
14:41 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
14:41 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: oopsie
14:41 schestowitz-TR; it came from the title which followed
14:41 bnchs; yes
14:42 TR News; #Security updates for Monday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/885663/ #LWN #Linux
14:42 TR Bot; updates for Monday [LWN.net]
14:51 psydroid2; don't expect GOG to support the Steam Deck
14:51 TR News; #SvenGuckes RIP Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161700 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:51 TR Bot; Sven Guckes RIP | Tux Machines
14:51 bnchs; maybe because they only have windows programs
14:51 TR News; #dedoimedo Moving away from #vista11 - It begins Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161702 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:51 TR Bot; Moving away from Windows - It begins | Tux Machines
14:51 psydroid2; do expect GOG to support Microshock DeadOS and Gill Bates
14:51 TR News; 6 Reasons to Try #NitruxOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161701 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #mexico
14:51 TR Bot; 6 Reasons to Try Nitrux OS | Tux Machines
14:51 bnchs; gog only has old windows games
14:51 bnchs; without DRM
14:51 bnchs; you can use wine
14:54 psydroid2; they can contribute to Lutris and other GUI frontends
14:54 SomeH4x0r; bnchs: no
14:54 psydroid2; these companies are in bed with Microsoft
14:54 SomeH4x0r; https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
14:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1
14:54 TR Bot; on GOG: list of single-player games with DRM, page 1 - Forum - GOG.com
14:54 *XRevan86 watches the Security Council live.
14:54 bnchs; drm on gog
14:54 bnchs; fuck
14:56 SomeH4x0r; https://www.gog.com/forum/general/boycotting_gog_2021/page1
14:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gog.com/forum/general/boycotting_gog_2021/page1
14:56 TR Bot; GOG 2021-22, page 1 - Forum - GOG.com
14:56 MinceR; 21 155152 < bnchs> gog only has old windows games
14:57 MinceR; pretty sure Amid Evil isn't old
14:57 SomeH4x0r; also GOG is no longer about old Windows games, for a few years
14:57 XRevan86; ( not necessarily live %) )
14:57 SomeH4x0r; they dropped the "good old games" name
14:57 MinceR; also, Graven is so not old it isn't even out yet
14:58 SomeH4x0r; don't bother with "digital distribution". Look carefully and torrent the good games.
14:58 bnchs; i torrent games anyway
14:58 MinceR; most of these games were so cheap it was cheaper for me to just buy them than to torrent them and attempt to ensure their authenticity and malware-free status
14:59 SomeH4x0r; wtfd
14:59 SomeH4x0r; *wtf
14:59 bnchs; digital distribution is garbage
14:59 SomeH4x0r; then refund after you do
14:59 SomeH4x0r; fuck their services
14:59 SomeH4x0r; fucking paywalls
14:59 SomeH4x0r; they don't deserve to even exist
15:00 bnchs; i torrent games everytime
15:00 MinceR; who, the developers?
15:01 SomeH4x0r; "digital distribution" stuff
15:01 TR News; Why you shouldnt Dual Boot on the #SteamDeck - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=exz-tJcXBCM #video #invidious #gnu #linux
15:01 TR Bot; Why you shouldn't Dual Boot on the Steam Deck. - Invidious
15:01 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161703 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:01 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:01 SomeH4x0r; developers at least develop stuff, but these services just make money of nothing
15:02 bnchs; "installing windows on steam deck"
15:02 bnchs; holy fucking shit
15:02 TR News; #FreeDOS 1.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161704 #freeSW #DOS #TuxMachines
15:02 TR Bot; FreeDOS 1.3 | Tux Machines
15:02 MinceR; lol
15:02 bnchs; yes i would definitely like to install windows on a device that probably doesn't have drivers for it on windows
15:02 bnchs; and get a much worse gaming experience
15:03 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/01/awkward-christian-album-covers/
15:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/01/awkward-christian-album-covers/
15:03 TR Bot; Awkward Christian Album Covers Too Pure To Get The Joke (22 Pics)
15:03 TR News; Full Circle Weekly News #249 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-249/ #gnu #linux
15:03 TR Bot; Full Circle Weekly News #249 | Full Circle Magazine
15:03 bnchs; also windows will probably eat your entire battery
15:03 psydroid2; why you shouldn't dual boot proprietary operating systems on any device
15:03 bnchs; in just a day
15:03 psydroid2; I only kept windows for warranty purposes
15:04 bnchs; that shit consumes 100% CPU because of the antivirus
15:04 psydroid2; and then I wiped it
15:04 MinceR; why you shouldn't care so much about whether you're running systemd or windows
15:04 SomeH4x0r; evil digital distribution people would brainwash you to think you are buying "games"
15:04 bnchs; windows consumes your battery because of the antivirus
15:04 SomeH4x0r; while in fact you are buying some weird kind of access
15:04 bnchs; and consumes your RAM
15:05 bnchs; it will probably turn the steam deck battery into shit in just 2 weeks
15:05 MinceR; you're buying a license, as with all other software
15:05 MinceR; strangely enough, many of these services like to say you "own" them though
15:05 SomeH4x0r; because they want to brainwash you
15:07 SomeH4x0r; I don't treat it as a "license". I really doubt anyone cares about legal stuff there.
15:07 TR News; #fakeSecurity with #QR #cargoCult https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/stealing-bicycles-by-swapping-qr-codes.html
15:07 TR Bot; Bicycles by Swapping QR Codes - Schneier on Security
15:07 SomeH4x0r; it is just some access, and the websites die
15:08 psydroid2; systemd/Linux is increasingly becoming an enabler for proprietary software
15:08 TR News; Top 10 Best #Gedit Text Editor Plugins for Programmers and Coding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161705 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:08 SomeH4x0r; will you be able to recover the "license" if the digital distribution service disappears for good with no clue what happened?
15:08 TR Bot; Top 10 Best Gedit Text Editor Plugins for Programmers and Coding | Tux Machines
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15:08 SomeH4x0r; I at least know Desura, though never used it, might be wrong
15:08 psydroid2; and you can't get those goods if you are on OpenBSD
15:09 MinceR; that's why you use gog and download backup installers for everything
15:10 TR News; "In this twenty-fifth episode of the WordPress Briefing, Executive Director, Josepha Haden Chomphosy discusses future-proofing the WordPress project with the Five for the Future pledge." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/02/episode-25-five-cents-on-five-for-the-future/
15:10 TR Bot; Episode 25: Five Cents on Five for the Future WordPress News
15:10 SomeH4x0r; yes, or go download these from torrents (possibly use a few sources to verify the files are the same) and don't bother with the legal stuff people hardly care about
15:11 schestowitz; AMD ads https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ADL-Radeon-Linux-5.17
15:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ADL-Radeon-Linux-5.17
15:11 TR Bot; Alder Lake + Radeon Linux Gaming Performance Holds Steady With 5.17 Kernel - Phoronix
15:12 TR News; #Rakudo Weekly News: 2022.08 Grammarly co-op https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/02/21/2022-08-grammarly-co-op/ #rakulang #programming
15:12 TR Bot; 2022.08 Grammarly co-op Rakudo Weekly News
15:14 TR News; #microsoft = disposable junk. Remember #xbox (cost Microsoft BILLIONS in losses) https://hackaday.com/2022/02/21/the-little-replacement-psu-that-could-kill-a-microsoft-surface-and-monitor/
15:14 TR Bot; Little Replacement PSU That Could: Kill A Microsoft Surface And Monitor | Hackaday
15:15 psydroid2; how to insert references to AMD products into articles about products from competitors
15:15 TR News; Building and running #FIPS containers on #Ubuntu 18.04 | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/building-and-running-fips-containers-on-ubuntu18-04 #gnu #linux
15:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/building-and-running-fips-containers-on-ubuntu18-04
15:15 TR Bot; and running FIPS containers on Ubuntu 18.04 | Ubuntu
15:17 TR News; "Every month we review the work funded by #Freexian s #Debian LTS offering. Please find the report for January below." https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/02/21/freexians-report-about-debian-long-term-support-january-2022/ #gnu #linux
15:17 TR Bot; Freexians report about Debian Long Term Support, January 2022
15:31 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1495771547486801925#m
15:31 TR Bot; Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "I like the headline: Snap is Not Linux and the Sky is Not Falling https://buff.ly/3I7YWns" | nitter
15:31 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161706 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:31 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:32 XRevan86; It was definitely not live, those lying bastards.
15:32 psydroid2; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland,_Massachusetts
15:32 TR Bot; Wayland, Massachusetts - Wikipedia
15:32 psydroid2; like X11, Massachusetts
15:33 XRevan86; Mishustin leaves the platform, camera shows Putin for a second, back to the platform: Mishustin is already sitting comfortably on his chair and Krasnov is leaving the plarform.
15:34 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Weekend-in-Sheffield/Weston-Park-Museum?page=2
15:34 TR Bot; Weston Park Museum
15:34 MinceR; burning platform
15:34 schestowitz; 2020
15:35 XRevan86; https://t.me/worldprotest/16996 so this was not a fluke
15:35 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @worldprotest
15:35 XRevan86; Shoygu's watch showed 12:47
15:36 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-1.jpg
15:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-1.jpg
15:37 XRevan86; So Krasnov got cut out Live :)
15:40 TR News; X4: Tides of Avarice and the 5.00 update land March 14 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/x4-tides-of-avarice-and-the-500-update-land-march-14 #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
15:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/x4-tides-of-avarice-and-the-500-update-land-march-14
15:40 TR Bot; Tides of Avarice and the 5.00 update land March 14 | GamingOnLinux
15:40 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
15:41 TR News; Co-op survival horror Pacify gets #SteamDeck upgrades | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/co-op-survival-horror-pacify-gets-steam-deck-upgrades #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
15:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/co-op-survival-horror-pacify-gets-steam-deck-upgrades
15:41 TR Bot; survival horror Pacify gets Steam Deck upgrades | GamingOnLinux
15:44 TR News; #microsoft #windows is on fire, so #OnMSFT is shilling #WSL (Windows) again, trying to keep people on fake 'Linux' that gives them a poor experience/impression and keeps them enslaved by the criminals from Redmond. Link omitted.
15:46 TR News; Nasty #Linux #Kernel Stack Overflow Flaw Found and Patched http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161706#comment-32873
15:46 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:51 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 271.81
15:56 TR News; #SFTube - A Stylish YouTube App with Downloading Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161707 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:56 TR Bot; SF Tube - A Stylish YouTube App with Downloading Support | Tux Machines
15:57 TR News; #Games: GOG, Steam Deck, X4: Tides of Avarice, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161708 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:57 TR Bot; Games: GOG, Steam Deck, X4: Tides of Avarice, and More | Tux Machines
16:01 TR News; Rotary Valve Engine Gets A Second Chance, Smokes The Competition | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/21/rotary-valve-engine-gets-a-second-chance-smokes-the-competition/ #hackaday
16:01 TR Bot; Valve Engine Gets A Second Chance, Smokes The Competition | Hackaday
16:02 TR News; #GNU #BBDB version 3.2.1 (stable) released on 21 February 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Bbdb #freesw #fsf
16:02 TR Bot; Bbdb - Free Software Directory
16:03 TR News; "All three processing units support complex computing, but each is suited for different tasks or workloads. By using multiple types of processing units in your data center, these units can support each other and further accelerate large or complicated tasks." https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatacenter/tip/How-do-CPU-GPU-and-DPU-differ-from-one-another
16:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatacenter/tip/How-do-CPU-GPU-and-DPU-differ-from-one-another
16:03 TR Bot; How do CPU, GPU and DPU differ from one another?
16:13 TR News; #Nextcloud : Full Setup & Implementation Guide (Updated for 2022!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2OsNGj2n2zc #video #invidious #freesw
16:13 TR Bot; Nextcloud: Full Setup & Implementation Guide (Updated for 2022!) - Invidious
16:13 MinceR; (cat) (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/812092.mp4
16:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/v/812092.mp4
16:13 TR News; "The Steam Deck is going to be out in a few days for the ones that were quick to order. What to do if you have to wait much longer, while eager for some serious handheld gaming?" https://boilingsteam.com/steam-link-streaming-to-your-smartphone-with-a-dual-shock-4-as-controller/
16:14 TR Bot; Steam Link: Streaming to Your Smartphone with a Dual Shock 4 as Controller - Boiling Steam
16:18 TR News; "We're wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the #Apache community..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-weekly-news-round14
16:18 TR Bot; The Apache Weekly News Round-up: week ending 18 February 2022 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
16:19 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress Briefing, Nextcloud, and Full Circle Weekly Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161709 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
16:19 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: WordPress Briefing, Nextcloud, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines
16:39 TR News; Feral Interactive have no plans to update their Linux ports for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/feral-interactive-have-no-plans-to-update-their-linux-ports-for-steam-deck #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
16:39 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/feral-interactive-have-no-plans-to-update-their-linux-ports-for-steam-deck
16:39 TR Bot; Interactive have no plans to update their Linux ports for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
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17:06 psydroid2; so all of these companies simply don't care or think they don't have to do anything?
17:07 bnchs; nah they're too lazy
17:07 bnchs; or bribed by microsoft to stay on their rotting os
17:09 schestowitz-TR; yeah
17:09 schestowitz-TR; "parnership"
17:09 schestowitz-TR; not collusion
17:09 schestowitz-TR; "parnership"
17:10 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-5.jpg
17:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-5.jpg
17:10 bnchs; https://www.2600.com/hacked_pages/1999/1299.html
17:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: 2600.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.2600.com/hacked_pages/1999/1299.html
17:10 TR Bot; Hacked Sites Archive
17:11 bnchs; hacked sites of december 1999
17:12 schestowitz-TR; epo got rid of its maintframe yesterday
17:12 schestowitz-TR; in NL
17:12 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: can you find details about it in dutch
17:12 schestowitz-TR; I've just done a video about it
17:14 schestowitz-TR; i also got some inside info on npm
17:14 schestowitz-TR; but that's a separate article
17:18 psydroid2; it's hard to find any information about that
17:18 psydroid2; no one is mentioning anything about it
17:19 schestowitz-TR; yeah
17:19 schestowitz-TR; EPO killed the media
17:19 psydroid2; and I can't find anything on Gulag or Searx either
17:19 schestowitz-TR; no actual journalisd exists anymore re patents
17:20 psydroid2; apparently their mainframe died
17:20 psydroid2; it was so old that everyone who knew anything about it has retired
17:20 psydroid2; according to this
17:20 psydroid2; http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/04/15/will-the-epo-still-be-normal-under-the-new-normal/
17:20 TR Bot; Will the EPO still be normal under the New Normal? - Kluwer Patent Blog
17:21 schestowitz-TR; thanks
17:21 schestowitz-TR; I saw it at the time
17:21 psydroid2; but whoever they bought or rented the mainframe from should have kept their systems up-to-date
17:22 psydroid2; IBM itself has been collapsing, though
17:23 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200421.html
17:23 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Tuesday, April 20, 2021
17:23 schestowitz; it's even reproduced here
17:25 psydroid2; IBM only has $5B in revenue from mainframes anymore from what I read somewhere
17:25 psydroid2; so how long are they going to keep the lights on?
17:25 MinceR; maybe MICROS~1 will buy them :>
17:26 psydroid2; I'm reading about "MaaS" now
17:26 schestowitz-TR; with biden bucks?
17:26 psydroid2; mainframe as a service
17:27 psydroid2; mainframe in the cloud
17:27 psydroid2; mainframe in the sky
17:27 psydroid2; mainframe in the afterlife
17:27 bnchs; whats the difference between cloud and some guy's random server
17:27 psydroid2; mainframe going to mars
17:27 bnchs; the former sounds a bit more safer
17:27 SomeH4x0r; is there a difference?
17:27 bnchs; than some guy's random server
17:27 MinceR; the former is the marketing term for the latter
17:27 MinceR; suitspeak
17:28 bnchs; yes
17:28 bnchs; the cloud is simply to cover up that your data is stored on some guy's random server
17:28 bnchs; unencrypted
17:28 psydroid2; misinformation meant for people whose minds are clouded
17:30 bnchs; and i like how they encourage you to use this cloud
17:30 bnchs; even devices that have little local storage and force you to use the "cloud"
17:32 schestowitz-TR; clowns
17:32 schestowitz-TR; "CIOs"
17:32 schestowitz-TR; "CTOs"
17:33 schestowitz-TR; people who buy "IT" brochures
17:33 bnchs; clownud
17:33 schestowitz-TR; and follow the instructions on them
17:33 bnchs; there's no clowns but the people who buy steam deck to install windows on it
17:34 psydroid2; I've been saying that they're making local hardware you can buy expensive so you will favourably towards the cloud and choose to rent capacity over just buying local systems which then only require electricity and minor maintenance
17:34 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: not the point
17:34 psydroid2; you will look favourably*
17:34 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft just wants to put people off
17:34 schestowitz-TR; one tactic is
17:34 schestowitz-TR; associate steam deck with Windows
17:34 schestowitz-TR; and then people lose interest
17:34 schestowitz-TR; they did this before
17:34 bnchs; valve made sure that windows won't work with steam deck
17:35 schestowitz-TR; you put the Microsoft brand on what you want KILLED
17:35 schestowitz-TR; i.e. not linkedin
17:35 schestowitz-TR; or skype
17:35 schestowitz-TR; or shithub
17:35 schestowitz-TR; a lot of people still don't know the Microsoft ownership thing
17:35 schestowitz-TR; same for instagram and whatsapp wrt FB
17:36 bnchs; psydroid2, what about the shortage of hard drives
17:37 bnchs; "shortage"
17:38 psydroid2; bnchs, that's something too, but I don't think that is the primary thing holding computing back, unless you are in the business of collecting huge amounts of data
17:39 psydroid2; Intel had wished that x86 would stay in place forever and all important processing would move to the server side located in big clouds
17:40 bnchs; you don't own your computer
17:40 bnchs; nor your data
17:40 psydroid2; but then ARM came with ARMv9 and RISC-V with multiple extensions that allow a lot of efficient processing on the client side
17:40 psydroid2; so plan thwarted
17:40 psydroid2; I'm fine with my $5 ARM chip, thank you very much
17:40 bnchs; i hate gulagtube
17:40 psydroid2; I don't use gulagtube directly
17:41 bnchs; some of the videos i used to watch now have their "copyrighted" music replaced with awful music
17:41 psydroid2; and I mainly use it for music
17:41 bnchs; or partly muted
17:41 psydroid2; which I should download ASAP before it's gone
17:41 SomeH4x0r; bnchs: don't trust "streaming", download and archive stuff.
17:41 bnchs; the problem is that the "copyrighted" music is played alongside the dialogue, which means i can't hear shit now
17:42 bnchs; SomeH4x0r, yes i wish i did do it before
17:42 bnchs; now i have to go find some copy of the video
17:43 bnchs; the videos got tampered without being reuploaded
17:44 schestowitz-TR; content imperialism
17:44 schestowitz-TR; impsosing imperial agenda on "user" "generated" "content"
17:44 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-2.jpg
17:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-2.jpg
17:44 psydroid2; is there any chance of gulagtube ever going under?
17:45 bnchs; which means gulag can just start modifying videos while still maintaining their upload date
17:45 bnchs; which means you can't trust the date anymore
17:45 MinceR; at the latest, it will go under with the rest of humanity
17:45 psydroid2; or at least becoming just a shell while the interesting content moves elsewhere
17:45 psydroid2; yes
17:45 schestowitz-TR; livelseaks went under
17:45 schestowitz-TR; lbry in limbo
17:45 MinceR; it's hard to move interesting content elsewhere when the alternatives are so poor
17:45 MinceR; nothing even loads anymore from odysee
17:45 schestowitz-TR; soapbox (microsofT) died fast
17:45 schestowitz-TR; googlevideo died
17:45 schestowitz-TR; around 2010
17:46 schestowitz-TR; they didn't even save the link
17:46 MinceR; people refuse to use distributed alternatives
17:46 schestowitz-TR; all these platforms are dodgy
17:46 schestowitz-TR; here today, gone tomorrow
17:46 MinceR; or to host on their own webservers (which probably costs too much)
17:46 schestowitz-TR; guulag can even decide to break all gulagtube URLs to make "better ones"
17:46 bnchs; all of the centralized video sharing alternatives i found were shady as fuck
17:46 schestowitz-TR; like youtube.com/user/video_title
17:46 psydroid2; so torrents it is?
17:46 schestowitz-TR; they still use the pre-gulag schema
17:46 psydroid2; everything distributed via torrents?
17:46 bnchs; torrents are better
17:46 MinceR; if people were willing to use torrents, yes
17:47 MinceR; but they aren't
17:47 bnchs; it doesn't require a server
17:47 schestowitz-TR; iirc gulag bought it for 6 billion because googlevideo was failing (to dominate)
17:47 bnchs; or a big server
17:47 schestowitz-TR; distributed storage
17:47 psydroid2; I don't know trustworthy or dodgy tribler is
17:47 schestowitz-TR; not distributed across DCs of gulag
17:48 psydroid2; or what else is available
17:48 schestowitz-TR; but across the actual clients that are making actual use of the material
17:48 schestowitz-TR; some TV channels used p2p
17:48 schestowitz-TR; and not iptv
17:48 schestowitz-TR; the idea is, lower costs
17:48 schestowitz-TR; windows update does this too
17:48 schestowitz-TR; which is dubious from security pov
17:48 schestowitz-TR; and caused huge issues in the past
17:48 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, epends on how windows update is implemented
17:49 schestowitz-TR; but it's not good for ADVERTISING
17:49 bnchs; if there's no checksum or microsoft signed certificate
17:49 schestowitz-TR; so gulag will never let people do gulagtube the p2p way
17:49 psydroid2; I had a windows update taking about 6 hours when I first got my laptop
17:49 psydroid2; and that was on a superfast network
17:49 schestowitz-TR; they don't even do deltas yet
17:49 bnchs; this is how gulagtube censorship is gonna start
17:49 schestowitz-TR; gnu linux did deltas over a decade ago
17:49 schestowitz-TR; the OS is a goo
17:49 bnchs; first they mute or replace "copyrighted" shit without your knowledge
17:50 bnchs; with or without*
17:50 schestowitz-TR; yeah
17:50 schestowitz-TR; it got very bad in recent years
17:50 psydroid2; you can't trust what is on gulagtube anymore
17:50 schestowitz-TR; and I lost track of the scandals
17:50 schestowitz-TR; so many
17:50 schestowitz-TR; so many people reacted too late
17:50 schestowitz-TR; lost "content"
17:50 schestowitz-TR; lost "audience"
17:50 bnchs; then they'll most likely abuse it to mute any "misinformation"
17:50 schestowitz-TR; lost "money" (real money actually)
17:50 schestowitz-TR; you can only even be a slave in a gulag
17:51 schestowitz-TR; and better not be in such ionternment conditiuons in the first place
17:51 schestowitz-TR; the same ism true for shithub
17:51 psydroid2; building a "youtube" business sounds really risky
17:51 schestowitz-TR; same for fb
17:51 schestowitz-TR; or linkedin
17:51 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/10/16/microsoft-linkedin-github/
17:51 TR Bot; [Meme] Microsoft Has Always Been About Control Over Others | Techrights
17:51 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 27.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 271.84
17:52 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/
17:52 TR Bot; When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights
17:52 schestowitz; they kill businesses now
17:52 schestowitz; through linkedin
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17:52 schestowitz; linkedin layoffs :http://techrights.org/2020/07/22/linkedin-workforce-layoffs/
17:52 TR Bot; Fifth Round of Microsoft Layoffs in Less Than 2 Months: Another Thousand Job Cuts (6% of LinkedIn Workforce) | Techrights
17:53 schestowitz; [17:50] <bnchs> then they'll most likely abuse it to mute any "misinformation"
17:53 schestowitz; gulag already flags channels not for dininfo
17:53 schestowitz; just for being foreign
17:53 schestowitz; like,
17:53 schestowitz; this video is connected to the government of china
17:53 schestowitz; or russia
17:53 bnchs; and them replacing the "copyrighted" shit with awful music means that they can go even more and replace your shit with deepfake voice
17:53 schestowitz; not even commenting on the actual content
17:53 schestowitz; they don't flag videos sponsored by the US regime
17:53 bnchs; or anything they want
17:54 schestowitz; because to gulag the goal is to only amplify a certain narrative of ghegemony
17:54 schestowitz; and thus over time they use the platform for manipulation of perception by omission
17:54 schestowitz; censorship and deranking
17:55 bnchs; you can't trust the videos on gulagtube anymore
17:55 bnchs; because they may be modified
17:55 bnchs; than from when you remembered
17:55 SomeH4x0r; then you can never trust any server at all
17:55 schestowitz-TR; can trust your own
17:55 schestowitz-TR; and then go by a chain of trust
17:55 schestowitz-TR; through people
17:55 schestowitz-TR; not corporations
17:55 schestowitz-TR; or governments
17:55 SomeH4x0r; do you "own" it? Evil hardware, near future...
17:58 bnchs; SomeH4x0r, i expected only the metadata to be modified
17:58 psydroid2; the return of web rings
17:58 bnchs; not the data itself
17:58 psydroid2; but in gemini and friends
17:59 SomeH4x0r; what is wrong with JS/CSS-free web?
17:59 bnchs; just a little bit of CSS
17:59 bnchs; for the background
17:59 bnchs; and thats it
18:00 psydroid2; the web is controlled by the same controlling corporations
18:00 psydroid2; I wouldn't want to build my stuff on top of that
18:00 SomeH4x0r; just ignore the "modern" shit
18:00 psydroid2; that's not a solution for me, it might be for others
18:01 bnchs; just because the web is primarily occuplied by corporations
18:01 SomeH4x0r; small CLI web browsers exist
18:01 bnchs; doesn't mean you should abandon it
18:02 psydroid2; I'm fine with abandoning it
18:02 psydroid2; and I hope it abandons me too, so I can feel what it's like to be an orphan
18:07 psydroid2; we can do what techrights is doing
18:08 psydroid2; offer https support through a gemini->https gateway
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18:15 bnchs; so lenovo thinkcenter can lock in CPUs to their own brand
18:22 psydroid2; locks aren't the problem
18:22 psydroid2; I see it as an opportunity to break free
18:23 bnchs; well it's a PSB fuse
18:23 bnchs; they fuse in the PSB fuse, the problem is that this is poorly documented
18:23 psydroid2; let them be stuck with their CPUs locked to their systems that no one buys anymore, when they find out what is happening
18:24 bnchs; yes
18:24 psydroid2; they say it's for "security" but they probably mean "security of sales"
18:24 bnchs; but it's not eco-friendly in the long term
18:24 bnchs; the "feature" is poorly documented in lenovo's manuals and shit, and even in the BIOS they never say anything about the fuse
18:25 psydroid2; eco-friendliness goes out the window when money is on the line
18:25 psydroid2; they do that on purpose
18:25 psydroid2; who would buy such a machine otherwise?
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18:26 bnchs; this should be illegal
18:27 bnchs; and AMD is the one helping lenovo doing this
18:27 psydroid2; people should stop buying AMD and Lenovo then
18:28 bnchs; it's actually on any PSB-enabled motherboards
18:28 bnchs; they will lock in the CPUs into any motherboard with the security fuse
18:29 bnchs; "We have confirmed that other vendors are supporting the feature behind this. For the large vendors, their platform security teams are pushing to build more secure platforms for their customers, and that is going to have future impacts on the secondary server market and home labs."
18:29 psydroid2; I know
18:29 psydroid2; all my AMD hardware is ancient
18:29 bnchs; whats so dangerous about a AMD processor
18:29 psydroid2; and I'm not planning to add anything to it
18:29 psydroid2; https://semiaccurate.com/2022/01/18/amds-new-cpus-may-be-safe-to-deploy/
18:29 TR Bot; new CPUs may be safe to deploy - SemiAccurate
18:29 bnchs; it has no data no shit
18:29 bnchs; just processes
18:29 bnchs; it's pointless
18:30 psydroid2; it's a business decision, not a technical decision
18:30 bnchs; yes
18:30 bnchs; but they're shilling it as "security" even though the processor do not have data, and the only time where the processor does have access to data is where it's booted up into a PSB-locked motherboard
18:31 psydroid2; I'm planning to move everything to ARM and RISC-V and then we'll see who dares pulling off such tricks
18:31 psydroid2; they will be executed during the first refresh cycle
18:31 bnchs; "AMD EPYC CPUs may be x86, but they have an embedded Arm Cortex-A5 microcontroller that runs its own OS that is independent of the main system."
18:31 psydroid2; a lack of competition makes the executives of companies overconfident, thinking that their customers won't leave
18:32 bnchs; your x86 cpus have a ARM cpu inside it
18:32 psydroid2; until they do leave
18:32 bnchs; with it's own OS
18:32 bnchs; AMD PSP 2.0
18:32 psydroid2; that you don't control
18:32 psydroid2; and you know nothing about
18:32 bnchs; this will be alot harder to patch out than Wintel ME
18:32 bnchs; or AMD PSP
18:33 bnchs; since it's directly in the CPU die
18:33 psydroid2; basically this laptop is the last thing keeping me in x86 land
18:35 bnchs; but here's the problem
18:35 bnchs; the AMD PSB can be used to deny you access to the CPU
18:36 bnchs; and the PSB also has it's own OS
18:36 bnchs; which means when you do something bad, they can just brick your CPU
18:37 psydroid2; people will find out what is going on in a few years
18:37 psydroid2; when it's already too late
18:37 psydroid2; people are willing to go very far to play "their precious games"
18:39 bnchs; they will use this to enforce many things
18:39 bnchs; "no hate speech"
18:39 bnchs; "no piracy"
18:40 psydroid2; it's not as much a technological issue as it is a societal or civilisational issue
18:40 psydroid2; is this where we want to go?
18:41 XRevan86; Russia is going to recognise DPR/LPR.
18:43 bnchs; x86 is already going to shit that your x86 cpu already has a ARM cpu on it
18:47 psydroid2; I thought x86 was already shit because it's x86
18:47 psydroid2; but yeah, that only makes it worse
18:47 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/classified
18:47 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Classified
18:47 bnchs; you might aswell just buy a ARM chip
18:48 bnchs; if your x86 chip is gonna have it
18:49 psydroid2; what Intel and AMD are doing is buying time to figure a way out
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18:55 bnchs; it will probably be no time until we see x86_64 emulators for GNU/Linux binaries
18:55 bnchs; like you can run GNU/Linux binaries with QEMU
18:55 bnchs; or accelerator boards with a x86 cpu for faster emulation
18:56 psydroid2; I already did that a few years ago
18:56 psydroid2; I installed a full GNU/Linux x86 OS in QEMU on ARM
18:56 bnchs; yes
18:57 bnchs; but have you tried making an accelerator boards for ARM motherboards
18:57 bnchs; that have a x86 cpu
18:57 psydroid2; but user emulation should be fine for just running software
18:57 psydroid2; no, I haven't
18:57 bnchs; well that was a joke question
18:58 psydroid2; because I've been learning ARM, RISC-V and POWER assembly to outright port x86 assembly code to other architectures
18:58 psydroid2; the proper thing to do is porting software
18:58 bnchs; yes
18:58 bnchs; isn't that called translating
18:59 bnchs; i think emulators already do that
18:59 bnchs; like dynarec
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18:59 bnchs; (dynamic recompiler)
18:59 psydroid2; and I couldn't care less about proprietary software for x86, even though there are things like box86/64 and fex-emu
18:59 psydroid2; yes
18:59 techrights_guest|31; hello
18:59 psydroid2; but I prefer the source to be portable and not just binaries
18:59 psydroid2; hello
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19:01 psydroid2; Intel has an army of 15,000 software developers that have optimised everything to such an extent for x86 that unoptimised code on another architecture doesn't run as well
19:01 psydroid2; and this is then used to make that non-Intel architecture look bad
19:01 bnchs; just #ifdef
19:01 bnchs; oh
19:01 bnchs; they use shit like SIMD
19:01 bnchs; and SSE and AVX
19:02 psydroid2; yes
19:02 bnchs; the problem is if other architectures will implement those
19:02 bnchs; s/those/something like those/
19:02 psydroid2; ARM and RISC-V have something better now called SVE2 and RISC-V respectively
19:03 psydroid2; vector instructions that are independent of the width of the vector unit
19:03 bnchs; risc-v/risc-v?
19:03 psydroid2; yes
19:04 psydroid2; v as for vector extension
19:04 psydroid2; oops
19:04 psydroid2; s/RISC-V/V-extension/
19:04 psydroid2; in the second instance
19:04 bnchs; yes
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19:06 psydroid2; https://medium.com/swlh/risc-v-vector-instructions-vs-arm-and-x86-simd-8c9b17963a31
19:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/swlh/risc-v-vector-instructions-vs-arm-and-x86-simd-8c9b17963a31
19:06 TR Bot; Vector Instructions vs ARM and x86 SIMD | by Erik Engheim | The Startup | Medium
19:06 psydroid2; this is just an overview
19:14 TR News; European #Patent Office (EPO) Accelerates Outsourcing of Its Operations to the United States of America, Quite Likely in Defiance of #GDPR and Basic Common Sense Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/death-of-a-mainframe-in-epo/ #Techrights #clowncomputing #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/death-of-a-mainframe-in-epo/
19:14 TR Bot; European Patent Office (EPO) Accelerates Outsourcing of Its Operations to the United States of America, Quite Likely in Defiance of GDPR and Basic Common Sense | Techrights
19:16 bnchs; no GDPR for me, but GDPR for you
19:16 bnchs; they might aswell let facebook outsource european data to america
19:16 MinceR; "rule of law" in practice
19:17 MinceR; they probably will, as they're gutless pieces of shit
19:18 TR News; Dear Mr. Rowan Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/bean-putting-the-epo-in-the-bin/ #Techrights #clowncomputing #europe #epo #microsoft | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/bean-putting-the-epo-in-the-bin/
19:18 TR Bot; Dear Mr. Rowan | Techrights
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19:28 DaemonFC; Part of a Facebook post: "If you do anything with crypto it creates a tax situation where it's iffy on how you're supposed to report gains and losses. If you have more than 250 transactions, you'll need to summarize, and then things get really questionable and difficult.
19:28 DaemonFC; So it becomes hard to use crypto as a means of payment, because if you bought a sandwich, it creates a capital loss or gain, and that's one of your 250 transactions that you can directly report on Form 8949, so people will back away from using it as a currency, and start "holding" and waiting for it to go up. The problem is that when everyone does that, it stops being a currency and becomes a bubble. Personally, I think FIFO is the right thing
19:28 DaemonFC; to do as far as reporting, but there are many interpretations, and the IRS keeps updating their "guidance" to be as mysterious as possible.
19:28 DaemonFC; I can only surmise that this situation, which came about under Trump, is also designed to make American citizens too scared to go anywhere near anything other than the manipulated currency produced by the government, from which they can devalue your entire savings and use it to prop up the billionaires.
19:28 DaemonFC; Also, guess what? The IRS is happy as long as the value of crypto goes up, in general, because it means revenue, but if and when the tide goes out and people start reporting that they lost $10,000, $20,000, $50,000 or more, and carrying forward the loss (like Trump did for 20 years after his failed casino) that's when they'll snap to it, start auditing everyone, disallowing the deductions, and leave you holding the bag on all of the losses."
19:28 DaemonFC; schestowitz, The tax situation with crypto is the most ridiculous thing about crypto.
19:28 DaemonFC; It's designed to make crypto fail if it wouldn't already.
19:29 DaemonFC; If you buy anything with it, you have to report that as if you sold some stock to buy whatever it is you bought. If you use cash, there is no such requirement to report Capital Gains.
19:29 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/MhzDiA2.jpeg
19:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/MhzDiA2.jpeg
19:29 DaemonFC; It's designed to prop up cash because cash doesn't have difficult reporting requirements.
19:30 schestowitz; MinceR: or else!
19:31 bnchs; there's no else statement
19:31 schestowitz; only implicit
19:31 schestowitz; else {nothing happens;}
19:32 DaemonFC; The real goal is not really so much revenue, but to scare people away from crypto.
19:32 schestowitz; conditional execution in low level
19:32 schestowitz; binary condition
19:32 DaemonFC; There's no outright BAN on Americans trading in crypto, but it makes it difficult for you come tax time to be really sure of yourself unless you didn't deal with very much of it last year.
19:32 schestowitz; if else if like two conditions in a sense
19:32 schestowitz; with two redirections
19:32 DaemonFC; I'm sure if they can't make it fail with the revenue code, a ban comes later.
19:33 DaemonFC; The EU is already ahead of us. First they tried to knock it over with the tax code. Now they're saying they want to ban mining to save the environment.
19:33 schestowitz; it's hard to tax a babysitter
19:33 schestowitz; young
19:33 DaemonFC; Like Communist China.
19:33 schestowitz; takes cash
19:33 schestowitz; has no bank account
19:33 schestowitz; cannot report to irs
19:33 DaemonFC; They could.
19:33 schestowitz; rianne and I pay cash only
19:33 schestowitz; for other reasons though
19:34 DaemonFC; You can report misc income and just submit the return.
19:34 schestowitz; VAT is part of the item's price already
19:34 DaemonFC; It's kind of pointless, but you can.
19:34 DaemonFC; A teenage babysitter is unlikely to earn $12,550 that year doing part time and working in cash.
19:34 schestowitz; a "Facebook" 'post' that calls it 'crypto' is not worth reading
19:34 DaemonFC; You only have to file a tax return if you earn more than the standard deduction would be.
19:35 schestowitz; because it's BS by sematics
19:35 DaemonFC; In fact, if you have no income, sometimes it's better not to file at all.
19:35 DaemonFC; The IRS audits no income tax returns.
19:36 DaemonFC; So if you're not getting any money back, and aren't required to file, you may not want to have a tax return on file that year.
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19:36 DaemonFC; The IRS is actually more likely to audit a return with an AGI of $0 than it is anyone else.
19:36 DaemonFC; Because it's a red flag. "How is this guy living if he really has no money?"
19:37 TR News; #apple = bubble https://forums.swift.org/t/core-team-to-form-language-workgroup/55455
19:37 TR Bot; Core team to form language workgroup - Announcements - Swift Forums
19:37 DaemonFC; But on the flip side, the IRS also flags people who don't file returns for several years in a row and sends them a letter telling them to explain why sometimes.
19:37 DaemonFC; My aunt got hurt and went on Disability, which isn't taxable in her situation.
19:37 DaemonFC; So she went fom filing tax returns to not filing.
19:38 DaemonFC; Six years in, the IRS sent her a letter asking why she wasn't filing tax returns. She had to write back saying "My only source of income is non-taxable Social Security benefits, and therefore I am not required to file tax returns.".
19:38 TR News; Late Night Linux Episode 165 - Late Night Linux https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-165/ #latenightlinux #gnu #linux
19:38 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 165 Late Night Linux
19:38 DaemonFC; They accepted that and went away.
19:38 DaemonFC; But they do follow up with people who used to file, stopped filing, and aren't in the Social Security Death Master File.
19:39 DaemonFC; The funny thing is that the IRS must have known she was on disability.
19:40 DaemonFC; Because Social Security sends them, and you, a 1099-SSA form each year.
19:40 DaemonFC; And that would have been the only income on their file.
19:40 DaemonFC; So their computer should have known not to send her a letter asking what had happened.
19:41 DaemonFC; If there's a serious mismatch of the income on their file and what you reported, or did not report, they would have sent a CP2000 letter stating "We have information that you did not report all of your income. We are assessing you $x in additional taxes. You have 30 days to pay or reply and appeal." not "Why aren't you filing?".
19:42 MinceR; cyberpunk 2000
19:42 DaemonFC; They don't want the public to know what they do or why.
19:42 DaemonFC; Tax attorneys just advice "be honest to a fault". Which is good advice.
19:43 DaemonFC; *advise
19:43 DaemonFC; But it's almost always the computer's decision what to do.
19:43 TR News; "There is a brief mention that the controller runs the LiteOS kernel for Harmony OS, but no details we can find. The project GitHub has many of the gory details to pore over perhaps a bit light in places but the promise is made to expand that." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/21/dummy-the-robot-arm-is-not-so-dumb/
19:43 TR Bot; The Robot Arm Is Not So Dumb | Hackaday
19:43 DaemonFC; Automating nearly everything keeps revenue to expense ratio down.
19:43 DaemonFC; The IRS claims that it spends 50 cents on every $100 it brings in.
19:43 DaemonFC; On administrative costs.
19:44 MinceR; "Never send a human to do a machine's job."
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19:44 DaemonFC; But their computer system is antiquated.
19:44 DaemonFC; Most of the software is written in COBOL and a lot of it dates back to the 1960s and just keeps getting extended.
19:45 DaemonFC; They have big contracts with IBM.
19:45 DaemonFC; The systems that those programs were designed for aren't in use anymore, but they can emulate those systems.
19:46 DaemonFC; The problem here is that when the tax system for a country that has to process almost 160 million tax returns every year is such a mess that spans decades and is written in a language that most people have long abandoned, which is hardly taught anymore....
19:46 DaemonFC; You run into trouble.
19:46 DaemonFC; If they modernized it with what people are learning now, they'd end up with a bigger problem. They'd be on the hook with contracts with Microsoft, most likely.
19:47 DaemonFC; And it's hardly clear that Microsoft will exist in 60 years.
19:47 DaemonFC; So at that point, Microsoft is definitely "critical infrastructure". And it would be better to just keep teaching people how to use COBOL than let that happen.
19:47 psydroid2; it shouldn't, just like IBM/DR shouldn't exist now
19:48 bnchs; i wonder if they can compile the code with gnucobol
19:48 psydroid2; I was wondering about that too
19:48 psydroid2; was there a problem with GNU Cobol?
19:49 TR News; Building a Retro Linux #Gaming Computer - Part 13: Looks Almost Unreal | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/building-a-retro-linux-gaming-computer-part-13-looks-almost-unreal/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
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19:49 TR Bot; a Retro Linux Gaming Computer - Part 13: Looks Almost Unreal | GamingOnLinux
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19:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161710 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:55 DaemonFC; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/21/covid-uk-to-roll-out-additional-vaccine-shot-for-over-75s-vulnerable-people.html
19:55 TR Bot; Covid: UK to roll out additional vaccine shot for over 75s, vulnerable people
19:55 DaemonFC; Fourth jab of obsolete vaccine.
19:55 DaemonFC; Otherwise, just pretend its over.
19:55 DaemonFC; Spend money!
19:55 TR News; Shilling #proprietarySoftware for sponsors who pay? #gulagtube is a BAD source of info https://yewtu.be/watch?v=s87xFvfeg7Y see http://techrights.org/2022/02/15/youtube-spam-rewarding-junk/
19:55 TR Bot; The BEST OFFICE SUITES for Linux - Invidious
19:55 TR Bot; YouTube is Becoming Mostly SPAM | Techrights
19:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I was going into Walmart yesterday and they had pallets full of microwaves just like the kind I bought 18 months ago.
19:56 DaemonFC; It went up over 20% in 18 months.
19:56 TR News; "A Quick overview of #LinuxMint 20.3 "Una"" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VICkiWuXlsg #gnu #linux
19:56 TR Bot; Linux Mint 20.3 "Una" Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious
19:56 DaemonFC; They claim inflation in the last 18 months has been about 10% total.
19:57 TR News; #Games: Steam, Feral Interactive, and Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161711 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:57 TR Bot; Games: Steam, Feral Interactive, and Building a Retro GNU/Linux Gaming Computer | Tux Machines
20:00 DaemonFC; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/19/why-tesla-and-gm-want-to-be-big-in-the-car-insurance-business.html
↺ https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/19/why-tesla-and-gm-want-to-be-big-in-the-car-insurance-business.html
20:00 TR Bot; Why Tesla and GM want to be big in the car insurance business
20:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz, They say they can insure their own cars for less because they spy on the owner so much.
20:01 TR News; Calling Snap "Linux" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161587#comment-32875
20:01 TR Bot; Local Privilege Escalation Vulnerability Discovered in snap-confine | Tux Machines
20:01 DaemonFC; "The technology uses phone-based technologies like GPS trails to track braking, speeding over 80 mph and driving too fast for road conditions, MacInnis said, as well as the time of day clients drive and amount of driving a customer does. "
20:02 TR News; In past 10 days #techrights averaged 4mb/sec over http/s.
20:02 DaemonFC; The insurance companies know if you're speeding now, despite whether you ever get caught by the police.
20:02 DaemonFC; But they'll increase your rates twice for speeding if the police catch you as well, because they can.
20:03 DaemonFC; I wonder if MARISOL is using "personalized insurance" after sinking $1,200 into a radar detector built into her car.
20:03 DaemonFC; :)
20:04 DaemonFC; MinceR, I found a strofoam container that fits my portable hard drive just right.
20:04 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/model-behavior
20:04 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Model Behavior
20:04 TR News; Catastrophic situation at the #EPO persists; somehow, incredibly enough, not a single publisher has written about this (we've checked English- and Dutch-speaking media using several search engines) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/death-of-a-mainframe-in-epo/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/death-of-a-mainframe-in-epo/
20:04 DaemonFC; It rattles the table, but this stops it.
20:04 TR Bot; European Patent Office (EPO) Accelerates Outsourcing of Its Operations to the United States of America, Quite Likely in Defiance of GDPR and Basic Common Sense | Techrights
20:05 DaemonFC; Since Mandy stupidly crashed my old hard disk, I took the opportunity to upgrade from 2 TB to 4 TB.
20:05 DaemonFC; I notice many movies are now being encoded into AV1 with Opus.
20:05 TR News; An ode to Mr. #Microsoft Rowan (no connection to Mr. Atkinson) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/21/bean-putting-the-epo-in-the-bin/ #Techrights #epo #europe #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/21/bean-putting-the-epo-in-the-bin/
20:05 TR Bot; Dear Mr. Rowan | Techrights
20:05 DaemonFC; It is a noticeable improvement over HEVC. You can get the file size down by about 30%.
20:06 DaemonFC; The audio track still sounds as good as 128k AAC at 64k Opus.
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20:06 DaemonFC; I was interested in why people still use MPEG-4 ASP codecs.
20:06 immibis; i wonder if people like DaemonFC have opinions on the covid protests
20:07 DaemonFC; Well, Roy did say that people who get backed into the corner become dangerous.
20:07 DaemonFC; Not only do they still not comply, but now they have little to lose.
20:08 schestowitz; the passive become active
20:08 schestowitz; they are not covid protests afaik, in canada it's against mandates
20:08 schestowitz; the media spins that as
20:08 schestowitz; 1) anti-vaxx
20:08 schestowitz; 2) far-rightg
20:08 MinceR; MPEG-4 Active Server Pages, eh?
20:08 schestowitz; 3) us-based, sometthing something trump
20:09 schestowitz; 4) something "Crypto"
20:09 schestowitz; we are such good citizens we just vanished
20:09 schestowitz; and I walk outside double-masked with a hat IF I do at all
20:09 schestowitz; stay out of my way, I stay out of youts
20:10 schestowitz; and nobody can tell who I am, not even people who know me :-)
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20:11 schestowitz; with covid you get to be the "scalawag" who seeks to avoid detection, except now it's "for health reasons"
20:11 schestowitz; and nobody looks at your funny, you're just prudent
20:13 DaemonFC; Probably for at least a few more years.
20:13 DaemonFC; They want to make it go away by making it hard to get tested now.
20:13 DaemonFC; So it "goes away".
20:14 DaemonFC; I talked to mom about Walmart ending their 5 day paid COVID leave.
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20:14 DaemonFC; She said, "Well, if they test positive, they should just go to work then, with a mask on.".
20:14 DaemonFC; What do you do? You can't lose your job.
20:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Can't test. Don't test.
20:18 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can't_Cook%2C_Won't_Cook
20:18 TR Bot; Can't Cook, Won't Cook - Wikipedia
20:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Apparently, Paramount sent a cease and desist letter over the LCARS theme for Mozilla Suite.
20:21 DaemonFC; They claimed that they hold a trademark on the style because it was the computer interface portrayed in Star Trek: The Next Generation.
20:25 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/food-giveaway-held-in-parking-lot-of-save-a-lot-in-west-garfield-park/
20:25 TR Bot; Food giveaway held in parking lot of Save-A-Lot in West Garfield Park | WGN-TV
20:25 DaemonFC; Mass poverty in Chicago.
20:25 DaemonFC; There's no profit in running grocery stores down there.
20:25 DaemonFC; So they all leave.
20:26 DaemonFC; Margins on groceries are typically thin, even though food prices are expensive.
20:26 DaemonFC; If your store is getting robbed and shoplifted from a lot, it can destroy the margin quickly, and thus the reaon for continuing to try to do business there.
20:27 DaemonFC; Walmarts grocery margins tend to be between 5 and 15 cents per dollar, and that's largely depending on the brand. The higher margin tends to be on the lower cost store brands.
20:28 DaemonFC; They have every reason to want to push their store brands, even though it is a common misconception that they would rather sell the national brands.
20:28 DaemonFC; Those national brands don't actually make as much money. They just bring customer traffic.
20:30 DaemonFC; But they wonder why no grocery stores want to stay in poor neighborhoods.
20:30 DaemonFC; It's impossible to make good margins.
20:31 DaemonFC; Aldi had to pay armed security guards, and that was well before COVID. That was when I lived down there.
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20:32 DaemonFC; Criminals are definitely using the "masks as normal" thing to better hide themselves, although many aren't smart enough to plan like this.
20:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz, If Apple can still tell who you are with a mask on and unlock the phone, I'm sure police cameras can do it too.
20:33 DaemonFC; It's not going to be enough to stop them, although it might reduce the accuracy.
20:46 DaemonFC; Debian Backports updated to Linux 5.15.15.
20:46 DaemonFC; The security update lag is bad because of "Secure Boot".
20:46 DaemonFC; It takes about 5-7 more days to get security patches out while waiting on Microsoft to sign the kernel image.
20:47 DaemonFC; It's more secure to disable "Secure Boot" and switch to the unsigned kernel so you're running the patched kernel a week sooner.
20:47 *mib_jweeir (~68f41a50@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights
20:47 mib_jweeir; Microsoft don't sign the Debian kernel images
20:47 mib_jweeir; This is absurdly easy to verify
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20:52 psydroid2; Microsoft is setting the record straight for all of us!
20:53 DaemonFC; The chain of so-called trust starts with Microsoft's third party signing key.
20:53 psydroid2; Microsoft <3 Us
20:53 DaemonFC; Which is entirely controlled by Microsoft.
20:53 psydroid2; Microsoft <3 Linux
20:53 psydroid2; Microsoft <3 Azure
20:54 DaemonFC; Microsoft can revoke your ability to run a GNU/Linux distribution at their own discretion if you boot Windows at any point after installing your GNU/Linux distribution.
20:54 DaemonFC; Windows can update the dbx in the background without asking or warning you.
20:54 DaemonFC; Then whatever they've decided to put on the revocation list won't boot anymore.
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20:55 mib_2zmpk0; Ok so you admit that Microsoft doesn't sign the Debian kernels
20:55 DaemonFC; They've foolishly allowed Microsoft to decide whether it can run or not.
20:55 psydroid2; Please send my greetings to Bill and Satya!
20:55 DaemonFC; And to hamstring the security update flow.
20:56 psydroid2; I don't want Microsoft involved anywhere along the chain
20:56 mib_2zmpk0; Does Microsoft sign the Debian kernel this is a simple question
20:56 psydroid2; Who cares
20:56 DaemonFC; Microsoft has a pretense of allowing people to sign things, but Microsoft can revoke anything they want. If they refuse to sign "shim" or revoke their signature, your computer just won't boot anymore.
20:57 mib_2zmpk0; DaemonFC> It takes about 5-7 more days to get security patches out while waiting on Microsoft to sign the kernel image.
20:57 DaemonFC; So the only safe thing to do is pick one GNU/Linux distro and never boot anything else again, especially Windows.
20:57 mib_2zmpk0; Is this true
20:57 mib_2zmpk0; answer no it is not true
20:57 DaemonFC; They have to submit it to Microsoft for their approval.
20:57 mib_2zmpk0; no they don't
20:57 mib_2zmpk0; it is signed in the Debian build infrastrucutre
20:57 DaemonFC; I asked in their IRC channel and was told this is why it takes another week for a signed kernel.
20:57 mib_2zmpk0; Microsoft never see it
20:58 mib_2zmpk0; microsoft don't sign any gpled software
20:58 psydroid2; Is this an alt of mjg59? A Debian developer?
20:58 DaemonFC; Probably Mr. Goolag again.
20:59 DaemonFC; Pretending that "Secure Boot" is anything but Microsoft all over the place is ridiculous.
20:59 psydroid2; Yes
20:59 DaemonFC; In theory, you can control it. In fact, they tell OEMs to lock you out.
20:59 psydroid2; "Secure Boot" means that you need to give it the boot in a secure fashion
20:59 DaemonFC; In new systems with Windows 11, the option to turn it off isn't even guaranteed anymore.
20:59 DaemonFC; Windows 11 won't boot without it.
21:00 psydroid2; No such hardware for me then
21:00 psydroid2; Nor for my close relatives
21:00 psydroid2; Good luck with your "Secure Boot"
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21:05 Ariadne; i mean, you can implement "secure boot" with libreboot
21:06 psydroid2; I know
21:07 psydroid2; it's about retaining full control over such a "secure boot" facility
21:07 Ariadne; my problem with UEFI is not the ability to enable enforced codesigning, but rather UEFI itself
21:08 Ariadne; you can uninstall microsoft's keys from your UEFI firmware, and use your own local ones to sign kernels
21:08 Ariadne; (also, microsoft at most just signs the bootloader)
21:09 Ariadne; also, if microsoft revoked debian's bootloader, they would be in big trouble with, among other parties, the US Government, which run Debian derivatives on various servers
21:10 Ariadne; this does not mean that i think microsoft having a monopoly on default UEFI trust root is a good thing, it's an absolutely fucked thing
21:11 Ariadne; anyway, there are plenty of arguments to be made about the Microsoft UEFI Signing CA
21:11 Ariadne; but the ones DaemonFC are making aren't winners
21:11 MinceR; just signing the bootloader is handy for replacing the kernel, which is handy for MICROS~1 to claim/construct a reason to revoke the signature
21:11 XFaCE; CAs are dumb.
21:11 MinceR; PKI is dumb
21:12 XFaCE; CA is dumber.
21:12 MinceR; and so is the "well, if the special people signed it, it must be perfect" paradigm for IT "security"
21:12 XFaCE; That is a very astute way of putting it
21:12 XFaCE; I'm copying that explanation
21:13 Ariadne; the way alpine does it is that the alpine installer uninstalls microsoft's keys
21:13 Ariadne; and installs locally controlled on-device ones
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21:13 MinceR; :)
21:13 XFaCE; Right ok, can the installer script steps be easily run independent of distro?
21:13 Ariadne; but we have not asked microsoft to sign our bootloader, as we do not care :)
21:14 Ariadne; XFaCE: i mean, not really? how distros distribute kernels are kinda distro-specific
21:14 XFaCE; Are we talking about an installer script that runs... two real commands in between a lot of TUI glue?
21:14 Ariadne; the alpine implementation is designed for alpine
21:14 Ariadne; no
21:14 *psydroid2 has problems with all closed source system firmware
21:14 Ariadne; psydroid2: so does CISA
21:14 XFaCE; So Alpine Linux has specific tools for secure boot modification that haven't been ported?
21:15 XFaCE; to any other distro?
21:15 XFaCE; Please elaborate on Alpine-specific
21:15 Ariadne; i mean, the underlying tools are FOSS
21:15 Ariadne; i'm talking about the glue that makes it so that `apk upgrade` gives you a nice fresh locally signed kernel
21:15 XFaCE; What about locally built kernels?
21:16 Ariadne; if you build them as APKs, then the integration still works :P
21:16 XFaCE; The Alpine wiki even recommends custom kernels for various additional kernel security settings such as modules
21:16 Ariadne; if you build them by hand, well, look at the scripts
21:16 XFaCE; The APK scripts?
21:16 XFaCE; or the installer scripts?
21:17 Ariadne; https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/main/secureboot-hook/secureboot.hook
21:17 TR Bot; secureboot.hook\secureboot-hook\main - aports - Alpine packages build scripts
21:17 XFaCE; what is a .hook?
21:18 XFaCE; Apparent from the face value
21:18 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=1835209
21:18 TR Bot; Facebook misled investors on scope of misinformation problems, whistleblower says | Ars Technica
21:18 XFaCE; is that just for clarification so it is distinguished from other scripts?
21:19 Ariadne; https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/main/kernel-hooks/kernel-hooks.trigger
21:19 TR Bot; kernel-hooks.trigger\kernel-hooks\main - aports - Alpine packages build scripts
21:20 Ariadne; https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/UEFI_Secure_Boot outlines how the system works at 10000'
21:20 TR Bot; UEFI Secure Boot - Alpine Linux
21:20 XFaCE; 10000'?
21:20 Ariadne; we yeet microsoft key, replace with locally generated key
21:20 XFaCE; 10000 what?
21:20 Ariadne; 10000 feet
21:21 XFaCE; Oh right, American
21:22 Ariadne; its the only way to do any of this securely on UEFI
21:22 Ariadne; other platforms have far more reasonable approach
21:22 XFaCE; So the impression I'm getting here is that without Alpine's glue doing this yourself is painful
21:23 Ariadne; i mean, it is not too bad
21:23 XFaCE; Which means basically if you like any other distro you're out of luck or stuck with a corporate solution
21:23 Ariadne; but UEFI makes everything complex
21:23 XFaCE; well the hook script calls another script that is Alpine specific written by Jakob whatever
21:23 XFaCE; -c "$cmdline" \
21:23 XFaCE; -s "$splash_image" \
21:23 XFaCE; -o "$tmpdir"/unsigned.efi \
21:23 XFaCE; "$vmlinuz" $microcode "$tmpdir"/initramfs
21:23 Ariadne; other platforms, they just shove the hash of the kernel image in an efuse
21:23 Ariadne; and call it a day
21:24 XFaCE; what's an efuse? Some FUSE for the EFI partition?
21:24 Ariadne; an efuse is a chip
21:24 Ariadne; that contains a small amount of data
21:24 XFaCE; So like a fuse that trips?
21:25 XFaCE; or is it wholly unrelated to those fuses?
21:25 Ariadne; its kinda like that
21:25 Ariadne; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efuse
21:25 TR Bot; Efuse - Wikipedia
21:25 XFaCE; "In computing, an eFuse (electronic fuse) is a microscopic fuse put into a computer chip. This technology was invented by IBM to allow for the dynamic real-time reprogramming of chips. In the abstract, computer logic is generally "etched" or "hard-wired" onto a chip and cannot be changed after the chip has finished being manufactured. By utilizing a set of eFuses, a chip manufacturer can allow for the circuits on a chip to change while it is in
21:25 XFaCE; operation"
21:26 Ariadne; anyway, point is
21:26 Ariadne; other platforms
21:26 XFaCE; OK, I guess what I'm getting to is this
21:26 Ariadne; they just store a hash of whatever is supposed to be booting
21:26 Ariadne; in secure world
21:26 Ariadne; usually an efuse
21:26 XFaCE; For other distros, is the option basically having to port all this Alpine work over?
21:27 Ariadne; yeah
21:27 Ariadne; if you want to do it right
21:28 XFaCE; How would you rate say this process? https://www.funtoo.org/Secure_Boot
21:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: funtoo.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.funtoo.org/Secure_Boot
21:28 TR Bot; Secure Boot - Funtoo
21:28 MinceR; what happens when you upgrade the kernel?
21:28 XFaCE; It's a kind of magic
21:28 MinceR; bricking isn't really magic :>
21:29 Ariadne; signing grub is an option, but it kinda defeats the point
21:29 XFaCE; what point?
21:29 Ariadne; the point is that you do not want an unauthorized (by you) kernel to boot on the machine
21:29 Ariadne; so, the only way to do this sanely
21:29 Ariadne; is to sign the kernel itself
21:30 Ariadne; and run it directly as a UEFI application
21:30 Ariadne; e.g. no bootloader
21:30 XFaCE; Ok, it sounds then those Funtoo instructions are fine up until the point of mentioning GRUB
21:30 MinceR; i prefer getting rid of the illusion that you can have IT security without physical security
21:30 XFaCE; MinceR: go back to those case keys?
21:31 XFaCE; :>
21:31 Ariadne; MinceR: well, thats the point, the idea is that the signing keys (controlled by you) are physically located away from the machine, except when it is being upgraded :)
21:31 XFaCE; physically located on what? a USB key?
21:31 MinceR; it's not like i can change the contents of the efuse to the next hash anyway
21:31 MinceR; right? :>
21:31 Ariadne; yes, like a yubikey or some other FIDO device
21:31 Ariadne; MinceR: generally speaking, not without physical access
21:32 XFaCE; Of course for the home user such a device can become corrupted because of carelessness
21:32 XFaCE; I guess that's why there's always backups
21:32 Ariadne; for example in Octeon machines, you have to enroll the new hash in the u-boot console itself
21:32 Ariadne; with the Apple M1, you have to go into system recovery mode to enroll the new hash
21:32 Ariadne; both of which require physical access
21:32 XFaCE; Who is the target audience here?
21:33 Ariadne; for secure boot?
21:33 Ariadne; mostly enterprise
21:33 XFaCE; For Alpine's implementation of secure boot?
21:33 Ariadne; paranoid people
21:33 Ariadne; and... enterprise
21:34 XFaCE; Do you think people who don't do this are careless?
21:34 Ariadne; depends
21:34 Ariadne; do i think that grandma not doing this is careless? no
21:34 XFaCE; Ok, say Brodie Robertson doesn't
21:35 Ariadne; do i think that people managing systems that are processing highly sensitive data (classified materials, personal information, credit cards, etc) not doing this are careless? absolutely
21:36 XFaCE; I would argue that everyone's private data (aka what they store without intent to share by default) is sensitive
21:36 immibis; schestowitz: they have no idea what the protest is about except they are all angry about covid
21:36 Ariadne; sure, i'm not saying this isn't a best practice for those patient to do it
21:36 XFaCE; I mean, the thinking it is less important is what lead to consumer level garbage SSDs and ECC-less ram
21:36 immibis; there was an attempted murder in the NZ one a few hours ago, like, driving a car into a crowd of people, which is an actual terrorist attack
21:36 Ariadne; i'm just saying that if brodie robertson does not wish to do it
21:36 Ariadne; who cares
21:36 psydroid2; is there an official writeup for the way Alpine does this?
21:37 Ariadne; psydroid2: not yet, it will be in handbook tho
21:37 MinceR; it also led to systems that prioritize the interests of megacorporations, states and sociopaths over the interests of users and computer owners
21:37 XFaCE; Ariadne: Every person that doesn't do it is another vulnerability in today's interconnected world
21:37 MinceR; "you're not important enough to be worth selling a PC without hardware backdoors"
21:37 XFaCE; It's why OpenBSD gives OpenSSH away to as many people as possible
21:37 psydroid2; Ariadne, that sounds good, I think it will do a lot for people to employ good practices when it comes to actual security
21:37 XFaCE; To raise the overall security of everything
21:37 XFaCE; <@MinceR> "you're not important enough to be worth selling a PC without hardware backdoors"
21:38 XFaCE; exactly
21:38 Ariadne; MinceR: i mean, the backdoor is the microsoft UEFI Signing CA (for various reasons)
21:38 MinceR; there are so many backdoors
21:38 XFaCE; And I find it leads to two outcomes, people who are educated to be careless and don't learn to do proper diligence
21:39 XFaCE; Or people who want to learn but basically are bombarded with so much obfuscated crap and not enough time to absorb knowledge that the end result is being discouraged and depressed
21:39 MinceR; there's the MICROS~1 key(s) in UEFI, there's ME/PSP, there's intel boot guard, and there's the preinstalled windows, systemd or macOS
21:39 XFaCE; And told by "betters" that "well you don't really matter anyway so don't worry about it"
21:39 MinceR; s,PSP,PSP/TZ/ThreadX,
21:40 MinceR; oh, and on crApple, also the "security" chip they used to lock out real OS-es
21:40 Ariadne; the T2 does not lock out the use of linux lol
21:40 MinceR; at this moment it doesn't? that's great.
21:40 Ariadne; the issue was that linux did not have drivers for the T2 chip
21:40 Ariadne; it does now
21:40 MinceR; the issue is always with Linux
21:41 Ariadne; i mean, yes?
21:41 Ariadne; new types of hardware require new drivers
21:41 Ariadne; film at 11
21:41 MinceR; hw designers/manufacturers don't want your suffering to end, film at 11
21:42 MinceR; also, crApple and their ilk doesn't like competing in the desktop OS market
21:42 Ariadne; though i think the T2 chip is kind of a stupid way to do it
21:42 XFaCE; Of course those drivers are contingent on diligent reliably maintainers
21:42 XFaCE; *s/y/e
21:42 Ariadne; they could have just implemented a PCIe hub which blocked access to certain device endpoints
21:42 MinceR; it's much easier to lock competitors out than spending money on hiring engineers who know what they're doing and having them develop software that's actually worth using
21:42 MinceR; especially since people still somehow manage to claim that we have a "market economy" and a "free market"
21:43 XFaCE; MinceR: We're very agile now.
21:43 XFaCE; So agile.
21:43 MinceR; lol
21:43 Ariadne; or just hardware kill switches
21:43 XFaCE; Our release numbers have never been higher.
21:43 MinceR; as in "we hold a 1h 'standup' meeting every workday"?
21:43 TR News; The 9 Best #GNULinux Network Troubleshooting Commands Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161712 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:43 TR Bot; The 9 Best Linux Network Troubleshooting Commands | Tux Machines
21:44 Ariadne; MinceR: anyway, the linux problem was that apple implemented their own NVMe controller, as part of the T2 SoC
21:44 MinceR; sounds like the lenovo debacle
21:44 XFaCE; "the" lenovo debacle?
21:45 Ariadne; the good news is that the M1 SoC uses the same NVMe :)
21:45 MinceR; i mean the one where they locked Linux out of certain ideapads
21:45 Ariadne; hardware evolves
21:45 MinceR; with a controller that allegedly did RAID with an array consisting of a single SSD
21:45 MinceR; it certainlydoes
21:45 MinceR; s/yd/y d/
21:45 XFaCE; The bad news is that it will take months yet to actually use Linux on M1, and progress can be undone with Apple cat/mouse game
21:45 MinceR; we used to get hardware specs with our machines a long time ago
21:45 Ariadne; do i think hardware manufacturers should work to Linux developers to get pre-release hardware in their hands? yes
21:45 psydroid2; so the T2 was made to work because of work done on M1?
21:45 XFaCE; It'll basically be the hackintosh experience in reverse
21:46 Ariadne; psydroid2: no
21:46 MinceR; we used to have hardware we could trust
21:46 XFaCE; MinceR: not sure about that
21:46 XFaCE; unless you mean... a flashlight
21:46 Ariadne; psydroid2: i mean, its kinda fuzzy
21:46 Ariadne; psydroid2: in some ways, yes
21:46 MinceR; now we have backdoors in backdoors on top of backdoors doing MICROS~1's, crApple's and dehomag's bidding and we get to pay for the electricity and the Internet access
21:46 Ariadne; but in other ways, T2 enablement helped M1 enablement
21:46 psydroid2; I get what you're saying
21:46 psydroid2; they've been improving in tandem
21:47 MinceR; XFaCE: there used to be personal computers that were too simple and stupid to betray the user
21:47 Ariadne; many of the building blocks are the same
21:47 XFaCE; Ah, we're talking Altair here
21:47 XFaCE; and graphic calculators
21:47 Ariadne; anyway, T2 chip happened because Apple wanted to yeet the Intel PCH chip
21:47 psydroid2; it's just that I don't have time to watch all of marcan's videos
21:48 XFaCE; And we haven't even gotten to the T2 chip hardware maintainance, see Rossmann
21:48 psydroid2; or keep track of what they're discussing in the various Asahi channels
21:48 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161713 #Linux #TuxMachines
21:48 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
21:48 Ariadne; XFaCE: the encrypted NAND feature is not new to T2, Apple has had that since the first generation retina laptops
21:49 TR News; "Any project that cares at all about putting out a good product whether it's #freesw or not will take it's bug reports seriously but not all are created equal and you can do your part in improving the quality the developers have to work with." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hs02qwLKLb8
21:49 TR Bot; Bug Reports Are Vital: How To Write Good Issues - Invidious
21:49 MinceR; what good is disk encryption if the key is known to some random device the user can't trust?
21:50 Ariadne; dunno, it is rather dependent on trust model :)
21:50 XFaCE; <Ariadne> XFaCE: the encrypted NAND feature is not new to T2, Apple has had that since the first generation retina laptops
21:50 XFaCE; Not sure how that relates to what I said.
21:50 Ariadne; XFaCE: there is no "new" maintenance requirement to repair a T2 macbook
21:50 XFaCE; Yes that is a source of issues that Rossmann has covered, but the T2 chip overall has other maintainability issues
21:51 XFaCE; Sure I wouldn't say they are new, I would say they are obvious
21:51 Ariadne; the issue is that apple put the NAND directly on the motherboard
21:51 Ariadne; e.g. no more M.2
21:52 MinceR; https://de.catbox.moe/5luicn.png
21:52 TR Bot; connect to de.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://de.catbox.moe/5luicn.png )
21:52 MinceR; that is indeed an issue
21:52 MinceR; especially when the NAND breaks
21:52 Ariadne; or the motherboard breaks
21:52 Ariadne; and you need your data
21:52 XFaCE; soldered anything is a liability at some degree
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21:53 Ariadne; pretty much
21:53 Ariadne; the only "big deal" thing about the T2 is that they replaced Intel southbridge with their own
21:53 Ariadne; which required new drivers for linux and windows
21:54 XFaCE; It also could transform into liquid metal and shapeshift
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21:54 MinceR; lol
21:54 *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights
21:54 MinceR; that's the T-1000
21:54 XFaCE; Yes the joke was a stretch but it had to be told.
21:54 TR News; #KDE Plasma might soon be the best Linux desktop on the market Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161714 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:54 TR Bot; KDE Plasma might soon be the best Linux desktop on the market | Tux Machines
21:54 Ariadne; i mean, i don't like any of these things
21:54 Ariadne; maybe risc-v will go somewhere
21:55 MinceR; yeah, down the drain
21:55 Ariadne; if they can figure out the microarch patents issue
21:55 MinceR; intel already has their filthy tentacles in it
21:55 XFaCE; You don't like the ability to shapeshift into liquid metal?
21:55 TR News; "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 723 for the week of February 13 19, 2022." https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/02/21/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-723/ #ubuntu #gnu #linux
21:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/02/21/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-723/
21:55 Ariadne; MinceR: imagination before them
21:55 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 723
21:55 MinceR; also sad
21:55 Ariadne; MinceR: imgtec literally announced they intend to sue risc-v implementors who do not license their patents ^_^
21:56 Ariadne; sifive have some patents too
21:56 Ariadne; "open ISA", but if you implement a chip
21:56 Ariadne; you'll get sued
21:56 Ariadne; if you're a serious player
21:56 MinceR; classy
21:56 XFaCE; "IBM POWER is our last hope" - Obi-Wan
21:57 MinceR; lol
21:57 *psydroid2 moves to the north pole with his chips
21:57 MinceR; my last hope are FPGA developer boards
21:57 psydroid2; sue me!
21:57 XFaCE; psydroid2: Lays? Fritos? Tostitos?
21:57 psydroid2; XFaCE, all of those
21:58 psydroid2; I want to spread the risk
21:58 MinceR; lol
21:59 TR News; #AVLinux MX-21 Released for All Your Audio/Video Production Needs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161473#comment-32876
21:59 TR Bot; AV Linux MX-21 "Consciousness" Released! | Tux Machines
21:59 TR News; #Canonical / #Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161715 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:59 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:01 TR News; Videos and Audiocasts/Shows: Reporting Bugs, Linux Mint 20.3 "Una", and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161716 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:01 TR Bot; Videos and Audiocasts/Shows: Reporting Bugs, Linux Mint 20.3 "Una", and More | Tux Machines
22:03 TR News; Upcoming changes to Puppet functionality in Red Hat Satellite https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/upcoming-changes-puppet-functionality-red-hat-satellite #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
22:03 TR Bot; Upcoming changes to Puppet functionality in Red Hat Satellite
22:07 TR News; "Positive Intelligence is a mental fitness framework and, among other concepts, taught me helpful practical ways to deal with stress, both professionally and personally." http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1645
22:07 TR Bot; 9 Ways We Self Sabotage
22:08 TR News; IoT dev kit powers up with MediaTek i350 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161717 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:08 TR Bot; IoT dev kit powers up with MediaTek i350 | Tux Machines
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22:10 TR News; Left 4 Dead 2 gets Steam Deck Verified, Team Fortress 2 only Playable | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/left-4-dead-2-gets-steam-deck-verified-team-fortress-2-only-playable #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/21/#latest
22:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/left-4-dead-2-gets-steam-deck-verified-team-fortress-2-only-playable
22:10 TR Bot; 4 Dead 2 gets Steam Deck Verified, Team Fortress 2 only Playable | GamingOnLinux
22:10 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
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22:22 TR News; A decade ago you could still call #crn #journalism but nowadays it reads and feels more like spam or #webspam https://www.channelweb.co.uk/news/4045271/cisco-thousandeyes-moves-100-channel-model
22:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: channelweb.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.channelweb.co.uk/news/4045271/cisco-thousandeyes-moves-100-channel-model
22:22 TR Bot; Cisco's ThousandEyes moves to 100% channel model
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22:22 TR News; #PostgreSQL : #Pgpool-II 4.3.1, 4.2.8, 4.1.11, 4.0.18 and 3.7.23 released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161718 #psql #TuxMachines
22:22 TR Bot; PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.3.1, 4.2.8, 4.1.11, 4.0.18 and 3.7.23 released. | Tux Machines
22:26 TR News; Why Did #Mastodon Threaten to Sue Truth Social? https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-truth-social-donald-trumps-social-network-explained #agpl #gpl #freesw
22:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-truth-social-donald-trumps-social-network-explained
22:26 TR Bot; Is Truth Social? All You Need to Know About Donald Trump's Social Network | PCMag
22:27 TR News; 2018: "Every non-free program is an injustice": Richard Stallman on the Free Software Movement https://conversations.e-flux.com/t/every-non-free-program-is-an-injustice-richard-stallman-on-the-free-software-movement/8474
22:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: e-flux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://conversations.e-flux.com/t/every-non-free-program-is-an-injustice-richard-stallman-on-the-free-software-movement/8474
22:28 TR Bot; "Every non-free program is an injustice": Richard Stallman on the Free Software Movement - Frontpage - e-flux conversations
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22:29 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/meta
22:29 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Meta
22:30 TR News; "Learn the steps to install KDE (Kwrite) Kate Text Editor on Ubuntu 22.04 Jammy JellyFish or Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Focal Fossa using the command terminal." Great editor, my longtime favourite. https://www.how2shout.com/linux/3-ways-to-install-kde-kate-text-editor-on-ubuntu-22-04-20-04-lts/
22:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: how2shout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/3-ways-to-install-kde-kate-text-editor-on-ubuntu-22-04-20-04-lts/
22:30 TR Bot; 3 Ways to Install KDE Kate Text Editor on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 LTS
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22:32 TR News; "DeVuan Davenport" https://www.panews.com/2022/02/02/follow-live-local-athletes-commit-on-national-signing-day/ haha, #devuan as a person's name. #gnu #linux
22:32 TR Bot; FOLLOW LIVE Local athletes commit on National Signing Day - Port Arthur News | Port Arthur News
22:35 AdmFubar; https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/worst-timeline-printer-company-putting-drm-paper-now
22:35 TR Bot; The Worst Timeline: A Printer Company Is Putting DRM in Paper Now | Electronic Frontier Foundation
22:44 TR News; "Kali Linux is a software for penteration testing, and is not an operating system like linux is. Kali Linux, Kali Linux is a Debian-derived Linux distribution designed for digital forensics and penetration testing." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/768939/new-to-linux-help/
22:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/768939/new-to-linux-help/
22:44 TR Bot; New to linux... Help! - Linux & Unix
22:45 TR News; "Put simply, a bug subsequently dubbed #Y2K22 (named in the style of the Y2K bug that spooked the world starting about a quarter century ago) caused the software to be unable to handle the date format for the year 2022. #Microsoft s fix? Set the date on malware detection updates back to the fictional December 33rd, 2021" https://www.welivesecurity.com/2022/02/21/integer-overflow-how-it-occur-can-be-prevented/
22:45 TR Bot; overflow: How does it occur and how can it be prevented? | WeLiveSecurity
22:48 TR News; Pushing people to waste time on a scam, or #facebook artificial hype designed to distract from a Facebook crisis https://qz.com/emails/quartz-forecast/2130288/
22:48 TR Bot; How companies can get started in the metaverse The Forecast Quartz
22:48 AdmFubar; https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-moving-away.html
22:48 TR Bot; Moving away from Windows - It begins
22:49 XRevan86; Russian troops entered DPR/LPR
22:50 XRevan86; i.e. Russia invaded Ukraine
22:50 schestowitz-TR; so now bloomberg can press "Publish"
22:50 XRevan86; yea
22:50 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar: at long last, no more Windows articles from him
22:51 psydroid8; just now?
22:52 psydroid8; also moving away from Windows now instead of 20 years ago
22:52 AdmFubar; well... starting in 2025. then no more from him
22:52 schestowitz-TR; psydroid8: no, he used a mix
22:52 psydroid8; they need to be whipped so often that they start bleeding before they get the message?
22:53 schestowitz-TR; so he wrote articles about both gnu/linux and windows
22:53 schestowitz-TR; when I saw the headlne this morning I told rianne,
22:53 schestowitz-TR; oh, I know what happened
22:53 schestowitz-TR; microsoft wants people to create an account to use windows
22:53 schestowitz-TR; and then it turns out that indeed he abandons it for good, for this reason...
22:53 psydroid8; schestowitz-TR, I get that, but I just keep windows stuff to myself
22:54 psydroid8; I see no need to put more of that into the world
22:54 psydroid8; a bit of a lousy reason
22:55 psydroid8; but he did it at least
22:55 AdmFubar; he is in the process of doing it
22:56 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: he will come to liberate budapest next
22:57 MinceR; lol
22:57 psydroid8; also the longer you use it the more you develop workflows that have the potential of tying you to that environment
22:57 psydroid8; I left at windows 2000
22:57 schestowitz-TR; me 98
22:58 schestowitz-TR; i mean me as in me,
22:58 psydroid8; because 95 and 98 were total crap
22:58 schestowitz-TR; not M.E.
22:58 schestowitz-TR; the laptop came with win98
22:58 schestowitz-TR; i put dsl on it later
22:58 psydroid8; and I needed some time to learn the ins and outs of GNU/Linux
22:58 schestowitz-TR; it took about 3 minutes to boot win98 on it
22:58 schestowitz-TR; 32 mb of ram
22:58 psydroid8; before I could move everyone at hone over
22:59 psydroid8; home*
23:00 psydroid8; my windows 95 died within 3 hours
23:00 TR News; Melania Putin dislikes "politics" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/us/politics/melania-trump-charity-donation.html
23:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/18/us/politics/melania-trump-charity-donation.html
23:00 TR Bot; Charitable Offer by Melania Trump Is Rejected, a Move She Calls Politics - The New York Times
23:00 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/yxtV6HW
23:00 TR Bot; on my phone - Album on Imgur
23:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/yxtV6HW
23:03 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: url/s?
23:03 psydroid8; so he's going to need 3 more years to move his workflows away from vista 10
23:03 schestowitz-TR; maybe they fake it being what it was in crimea
23:03 psydroid8; it's amazing
23:03 schestowitz-TR; 'referendum'
23:04 schestowitz-TR; psydroid8: he says 3 years?
23:04 schestowitz-TR; he could use wine
23:04 psydroid8; october 2025 when vista 10 goes eol
23:04 XRevan86; schestowitz: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://theins.ru/news/248748
23:04 TR Bot;
23:04 psydroid8; supposedly
23:05 TR News; #apple stuff is NOT a gift... except for #nsa and other creeps https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/airtags-are-being-linked-to-stalking-and-its-a-problem-apple-cant-solve-alone/
23:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/airtags-are-being-linked-to-stalking-and-its-a-problem-apple-cant-solve-alone/
23:05 TR Bot; Are Linked to Stalking, and Apple Can't Solve This Problem Alone - CNET
23:06 TR News; Humans eradicate #Wildlife / #Nature https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/19/us/bald-eagles-lead-poisoning-study.html
23:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/19/us/bald-eagles-lead-poisoning-study.html
23:06 TR Bot; After Mounting a Comeback, Eagles Face a New Threat - The New York Times
23:07 TR News; #freepressjournal trying to legitimise the #gartner #fraud https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/top-10-government-technology-trends-for-2022-gartner #gartnergroup = scam, paid-for #lobbying http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
23:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/top-10-government-technology-trends-for-2022-gartner
23:07 TR Bot; Top 10 government technology trends for 2022: Gartner
23:07 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
23:10 schestowitz-TR; psydroid8: maybe he just doesn't delete what's in therer
23:10 schestowitz-TR; leaving it to rot until it does
23:11 TR News; #OBSStudio 27.2.1 Improves Camera Support and PipeWire Capture on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161719 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:11 TR Bot; OBS Studio 27.2.1 Improves Camera Support and PipeWire Capture on Linux | Tux Machines
23:11 schestowitz-TR; I can relate to it
23:11 psydroid8; I have vista 10 and 11 vms
23:11 schestowitz-TR; it's common to not eradicate what takes no effort to merely not delete
23:11 schestowitz-TR; even if you do not use it
23:11 schestowitz-TR; like dual-booting only into one side
23:11 psydroid8; I have one directory shared with the vms
23:12 schestowitz-TR; without deleting the other, just ignoring it
23:12 schestowitz-TR; many people who buy new PCs for gnu/linux do it like that
23:12 psydroid8; whatever isn't needed gets moved from that directory
23:12 psydroid8; nothing gets saved in the vm
23:12 psydroid8; easy peasy
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23:12 schestowitz-TR; I still has suse for 1-2 years after boycott novell started
23:12 schestowitz-TR; on one old computer
23:13 schestowitz-TR; not the main pc
23:13 schestowitz-TR; but it still ran there ok with kde
23:13 psydroid8; I had vista 10 installed for warranty purposes until august 2020
23:14 psydroid8; then I got a new SSD and put it in a vm
23:14 schestowitz-TR; unless you boot into it microsoft does not even know if it was wiped or not
23:14 TR News; Is #Huawei already testing #HarmonyOS 3.0 for smartphones? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161720 # #TuxMachines
23:14 TR Bot; Is Huawei already testing HarmonyOS 3.0 for smartphones? | Tux Machines
23:16 psydroid8; I wonder if microsoft sees and collects data on people who stop booting into vista
23:17 TR News; "Britain believes there are figures within Russian military and security services who have serious doubts about invading Ukraine as the Kremlin continues to move more troops within 50km of the border." gemini://guardian.shit.cx/uk-news/world/2022/feb/21/uk-says-serious-doubts-exist-within-russian-military-about-invading-ukraine/index.gmi
23:17 psydroid8; so they know when to push for a new hardware cycle
23:19 TR News; #walmart #uk #revolt #greed " #Asda is facing potential disruption to supermarket deliveries after thousands of lorry drivers, warehouse staff and clerical workers voted to reject a pay offer." gemini://guardian.shit.cx/uk-news/business/2022/feb/21/thousands-of-asda-lorry-drivers-ready-to-strike-after-rejecting-pay-deal/index.gmi
23:21 TR News; Western regimes: we need to send inflation sky-high and tax people even more. Meanwhile, those who don't pay tax are stacking up their loot. 10 years ago: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722
23:21 TR Bot; rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters
23:22 TR News; "I have spent the last week or so trying to clean up some of my #GitLab projects, including my 'shell-color-scripts' program. If you're not familiar with 'shell-color-scripts', it is the program that gives me a random color script every time I open a terminal." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hoVR5CJ_eAM
23:22 TR Bot; Trick Out Your Terminal With Shell Color Scripts - Invidious
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23:26 TR News; Added US national debt. Trump year 1: a trillion bucks. Trump year 2: a trillion bucks. Trump year 3: 2 trillion bucks. Trump year 4: 4 trillion bucks Biden year 1: 2 trillion bucks. Adding up to OVER $10,000,000,000,000 in just 5 years.
23:29 TR News; dollars
23:29 TR News; #covid19 lockdowns started about 24 months ago in Western nations. The crisis is not over and US piled up about 8 trillion dollars in debt since COVID-19 broke out. That's $25,000 per citizen or $100,000 per family of 4. In just over 2 years! https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
23:29 TR Bot; United States Government Debt - January 2022 Data - 1942-2021 Historical
23:31 TR News; #putin knows he can afford to invade countries because the only country with military power that can antagonise it is far too busy with its own crises and it doesn't truly care about #ukraine (empty rhetoric and aging NATO promises)
23:33 TR News; #eu meanwhile flexing muscles over #patents because it lost leadership and doesn't know how to regain it. Here, the language is full of BS and it seems EU is speaking the language of (e.g. misuse of words like "rights") https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_1103
23:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_1103
23:33 TR Bot; Press corner | European Commission
23:33 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/omission
23:33 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Omission
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23:35 TR News; #eu goal is to 'compete' with China by essentially banning things (US modus operandi)i.e. similar to how NATO deals with Russia; it seems like a sign of waning dominance, blackmailing countries to not be "mates" with Chinese companies as was done in #iran when #orangenazi kidnapped an official in a Canadian airport
23:36 TR News; She will not struggle to find a hospital bed https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/britain-lift-covid-restrictions-queen-tests-positive-elizabeth-corona-rcna17039
23:36 TR Bot; Boris Johnson lifts all Covid restrictions in England as queen tests positive
23:40 TR News; Today, USA is number one at 960k #covid19 -linked deaths. Coronavirus cases at over 80 million already and unlike civilised countries such infections can leave all/many of these people with massive medical bills (debt which cannot be repaid; homes remortgaged and bankruptcies). They have far more pressing issues than the eastern border of #russia (which #putin cannot recognise)
23:41 TR News; "The point is that the "malware" in question are things placed onto exploitable "closed" IoT old and unpatched versions of Linux hanging out there." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36782/
23:41 TR Bot; Loathing the way this is presented, close to misinformation: New year brings bad news for Linux as 2021 saw up to 10 times more malware samples
23:48 TR News; Most of these are #malware / #spyware 'sold' to you as "information" https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-weather-apps-android/
23:48 TR Bot; 10 of the Best Weather Apps for Android and iPhone - Make Tech Easier
23:49 TR News; Can movies help save the world's dying languages? New wave of Indigenous films share untold stories https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2022/02/20/filmmakers-put-indigenous-languages-focus-aid-preservation-efforts/6804301001/
23:49 TR Bot; Filmmakers put Indigenous languages in focus, aid preservation efforts
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