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00:00 schestowitz-TR; boycott novell was a success
00:00 schestowitz-TR; novell died in 2010
00:00 Error; looks like need to read more more and more
00:01 schestowitz-TR; let me know of improvements
00:01 schestowitz-TR; I have spare time this weekend
00:01 Error; well is sunday tomorrow
00:01 schestowitz-TR; it's 00:01 here
00:01 schestowitz-TR; sunday
00:01 Error; but im really glad that i found this network
00:01 Error; oh im from uk
00:02 Error; its 00:02 here
00:02 schestowitz-TR; [00:01] <Error> well is sunday tomorrow
00:02 schestowitz-TR; so you meant toda<y
00:02 Error; an i clock start when i wake up
00:02 Error; day wise
00:02 Error; i havent been to sleep yet
00:02 Error; ;P so you know what i mean ;P
00:03 schestowitz-TR; yes
00:03 kingoffrance; you really want a definition? :) metaverse: confusion of tongues :) quote ye olde dictionary: virtual: see virtue; having the power of acting or of invisible efficacy, potential; energizing originally it was "essence" and "ideal forms" and whatnot -- what is true and real and not illusion. then it became "imaginary" -- 180ed, 1984ed. "What are Augmented Reality Environments? A technology that superimposes a computer-generated i
00:03 kingoffrance; mage on a user's view of the real world," "virtual" originally was the "real" "pure" "virtue" world, as opposed to physical/sensible "illusion"
00:03 schestowitz-TR; during the lockdowns I trains to sleep several times per day, every day
00:03 schestowitz-TR; it works better
00:03 schestowitz-TR; with a routine and "normals" it's harder
00:03 kingoffrance; its "the computer is god" i guess is what it is :D
00:03 schestowitz-TR; it's whatever you want it to be
00:03 schestowitz-TR; meta
00:03 schestowitz-TR; gets to define... METAverse
00:03 schestowitz-TR; and distrct from the scandal
00:04 schestowitz-TR; but virtue of renaming
00:04 schestowitz-TR; and then saying it hires for [some buzzword]
00:04 schestowitz-TR; cloud devs ops
00:04 schestowitz-TR; aidevsecops
00:04 schestowitz-TR; chaining buzzwords
00:04 kingoffrance; "virtue" i think somehow became "moral" but the older, more generic seems to just be "pure"
00:04 schestowitz-TR; new names foir sysadmin
00:04 schestowitz-TR; server now clown
00:04 schestowitz-TR; and the clown operator is dev and op
00:05 schestowitz-TR; and handles app
00:05 schestowitz-TR; because application is too big a word
00:05 schestowitz-TR; takes long to type on spyphone
00:05 psydroid8; I do see one advantage to a growing share of mobile gaming
00:05 Error; nah during lockdown i trained my self with a disease i have never discovered properly
00:05 Error; its learing *nix
00:05 Error; got hooked with openbsd
00:05 schestowitz-TR; it is a good skill
00:06 Error; and here im
00:06 schestowitz-TR; you get to run a lot of things on decent budget and without begging pentagon contractors for permission
00:06 Error; as i said im a commie
00:06 schestowitz; https://www.computerworld.com/article/2580728/darpa-pulls-funding-for-openbsd--leader-says.html
00:06 TR Bot; pulls funding for OpenBSD, leader says | Computerworld
00:06 schestowitz; the same cannot be said about Linux
00:07 schestowitz; with LF it's all just a chain of deplorable war mongers
00:07 Error; i maintain a practice since i was 20
00:07 schestowitz; https://linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors/
00:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors/
00:07 TR Bot; Board of Directors - Linux Foundation
00:07 schestowitz; commanders in suits
00:07 Error; but i would say sorry for drinking coke though
00:08 schestowitz-TR; http://killercoke.org
00:08 TR Bot; NO TITLE
00:08 psydroid8; it could kill Windows gaming, so being able to ignore both types of gaming could clear the way
00:09 kingoffrance; maybe another way to say above, "virtual" "virtue" was supposedly beyond senses....virtual reality is about getting trapped *into* senses, its 180ed :D
00:09 schestowitz-TR; VR is old
00:09 schestowitz-TR; 90s was a peak for it
00:09 schestowitz-TR; and then everyone lost interest
00:09 schestowitz-TR; than in late 2000s Second Life etc.
00:09 schestowitz-TR; it bombed
00:09 kingoffrance; yeah there was talk of vrml...then seemed to have gone nowhere
00:10 schestowitz-TR; IBM lost lots in that
00:10 Error; 90s was the best time for anything
00:10 schestowitz-TR; FB tries the same a decade later
00:10 Error; thats the best time
00:10 schestowitz-TR; because people are pissed off at FB and bored or depresseda
00:10 Error; FB is a con
00:10 Error; just to take ya datas
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00:10 schestowitz-TR; nd FB ITSELF not admits people are leaving
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00:10 bnchs; i remember playing on garry's mod servers, it's like a "metaverse" before "metaverse" was even coined
00:11 Error; do you lot watch films?
00:11 schestowitz-TR; https://variety.com/vip/social-media-giants-face-uncertain-future-1235184275/
00:11 Alternative link; Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/vip/social-media-giants-face-uncertain-future-1235184275/
00:11 TR Bot; Media Giants Face Uncertain Future - Variety
00:12 bnchs; big city maps, alternative playermodels
00:12 bnchs; it's like the formula for the metaverse
00:12 Error; watch Back to the Future
00:12 bnchs; almost as if
00:13 schestowitz; https://www.vox.com/culture/22840526/colors-movies-tv-gray-digital-color-sludge
00:13 TR Bot; in movies and TV: What happened to them? - Vox
00:13 Error; i gotta say abou tit
00:13 Error; nah a simple thing about Back to the Future
00:13 Error; it was in 1985
00:13 schestowitz; the firstn one
00:13 schestowitz; second was better
00:13 Error; nah
00:14 schestowitz; third was utter crap
00:14 schestowitz; the cowboy fest
00:14 Error; first one i said for a reason
00:15 Error; cos there was a sequence where an arab running with a gun
00:15 Error; lol
00:15 TR News; DIY Hydrophone Listens In On The Deep For Cheap | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/19/diy-hydrophone-listens-in-on-the-deep-for-cheap/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
00:15 TR Bot; Hydrophone Listens In On The Deep For Cheap | Hackaday
00:15 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
00:15 schestowitz-TR; that's the econd one, no?
00:15 schestowitz-TR; the libyan
00:15 schestowitz-TR; 2 of them
00:15 Error; yeah
00:16 Error; i think you got me point!
00:16 TR News; "Same story. I compiled the 5.16.10 kernel, booted it, it spewed out a lot of stuff to the screen, then a black screen and had to do a hard power-off." https://bkhome.org/news/202202/kernel-51610-broken.html
00:16 TR Bot; Kernel 5.16.10 broken
00:16 Error; the most worse thing is "The Simpsons"
00:16 Error; lol
00:17 Error; business talk
00:17 Error; lol
00:17 Error; are you lot all on openbsd?
00:18 bnchs; i tried it out
00:18 Error; let me guess
00:18 Error; didnt like it?
00:18 Error; lol
00:18 bnchs; immediatally dropped the fuck out of it after it started downloading intel firmware ucodes without my permission
00:18 Error; ah!
00:19 schestowitz; http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060930232710
00:19 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/19/2-men-shot-leaving-1-seriously-injured-in-walmart-parking-lot-in-waukegan/
00:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/19/2-men-shot-leaving-1-seriously-injured-in-walmart-parking-lot-in-waukegan/
00:19 TR Bot; Intel: Only "Open" for Business
00:19 TR Bot; 2 men shot, leaving 1 seriously injured at parking lot of Waukegan Walmart
00:19 bnchs; i would have liked it if it didn't do that
00:19 Error; it was firmware not ur wallet
00:19 Error; .l.
00:19 bnchs; i used freebsd anyway
00:19 Error; ah
00:20 Error; aint it the same
00:20 Error; ???
00:20 bnchs; eh
00:20 Error; more or less comeon
00:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
00:20 Error; =)
00:21 bnchs; openbsd literally downloaded intel firmware
00:21 bnchs; and took forever to do it
00:21 bnchs; and did it without me even saying yes
00:21 Error; i do think there was a problem with ur settings
00:22 Error; lol
00:22 Error; but not 100% syre
00:22 Error; sure*
00:22 Error; DaemonFC ??
00:23 Error; is that even a football club
00:23 Error; if it is i support arsenal
00:23 Error; ;P
00:28 schestowitz-TR; nufc
00:28 schestowitz-TR; MbS
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00:28 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: now say to mandy
00:29 schestowitz-TR; welcomew to my wprld
00:29 schestowitz-TR; bangbanf marcos instead of bongbong marcos
00:31 bnchs; who's mandy
00:31 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC's hunsband
00:31 bnchs; oh i thought it was some kid
00:31 schestowitz-TR; it is
00:31 schestowitz-TR; mentally
00:31 schestowitz-TR; infantile thinking
00:31 schestowitz-TR; hoarding apple-branded plastics
00:31 schestowitz-TR; like legos
00:32 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC would affirm
00:36 TR News; They've made their extensions sound like the file extension means "CRACKS" https://www.maketecheasier.com/download-save-chrome-extension/
00:36 TR Bot; Download and Save a Chrome Extension as a CRX File - Make Tech Easier
00:38 TR News; " #OpenBSD Journal is not associated with the OpenBSD project." http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=about
00:38 DaemonFC; He's smart enough, but he has severe deficiencies.
00:38 TR Bot; About the OpenBSD Journal
00:38 schestowitz-TR; street smarts?
00:38 DaemonFC; So it's almost like having an adult of average intelligence who just has no (healthy) fear of the world around him, no situational awareness.
00:39 schestowitz-TR; ok, so what I said...
00:39 DaemonFC; Yeah.
00:39 DaemonFC; I guess he's used to Tondo being so bad that this is a trip to Disneyland.
00:39 schestowitz-TR; throw a plate
00:39 schestowitz-TR; buy new plates
00:39 schestowitz-TR; "put it on maaa credit card"
00:40 schestowitz-TR; "put it on maaa faceeebook"
00:40 DaemonFC; If he breaks our plates, we get new plates from the thrift store.
00:40 schestowitz-TR; many people end up in tondo because they assume manilla is disneyworld
00:40 schestowitz-TR; or a gateway to it
00:40 schestowitz-TR; but they cannot afford to live them
00:41 schestowitz-TR; so they live in a slum worse than the villege they pilgrimage started from
00:41 schestowitz-TR; *village
00:42 schestowitz-TR; a bit like london here
00:42 schestowitz-TR; except in the uk you won't be squatting
00:42 schestowitz-TR; not for more than a few hours or days
00:43 schestowitz-TR; oh, looks like l;arabel is replying to me now
00:47 schestowitz-TR; he has not refuted anything
00:47 schestowitz-TR; I read it twice
00:48 schestowitz-TR; second time carefully
00:48 schestowitz-TR; it's carefully worded
00:48 schestowitz-TR; but it looks like they sent him loads of these
00:48 schestowitz-TR; and he says windows benchmarkers are the samea
00:48 schestowitz-TR; and that he has some very old CPUs around
00:48 schestowitz-TR; now that the trays there have the old CPUs in them
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00:57 darwin; is there a way to login to your nickname right when connecting? I selected HexChat's feature to use /nickserv for that but it always just changes to my secondary nickname...
01:14 MinceR; SASL is supported, iirc
01:16 MinceR; you can also use a server password
01:17 MinceR; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ergoirc-manuals.txt
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01:36 darwin; :)
01:36 bnchs; audio maining
01:36 bnchs; audio mastering
01:37 bnchs; time to main that audio
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02:37 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-190222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-190222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-190222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-190222.txt
02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 19, 2022
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07:21 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, February 19, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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07:21 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:23 TR News; NEWS #LinuxQuestions #gnu #linux 2021 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award Winners https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/2021-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-award-winners-4175708100/
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07:25 TR News; NEWS #Joinup #Standards Location #Interoperability in #Europe - LIFO publishes results of a major assessment involving 23 countries Permalink https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/elise-european-location-interoperability-solutions-e-government/news/location-interoperability-europe-how-are-we-doing
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07:25 TR Bot; Location Interoperability in Europe - How are we doing? | Joinup
07:25 TR News; NEWS #IndiaTimes #Internet Dad Cuts Entire Town's Internet To Get His Kids Offline, Likely To Be Fined Or Even Jailed! https://www.indiatimes.com/technology/news/dad-cuts-entire-towns-internet-to-get-his-kids-offline-likely-to-be-fined-or-even-jailed-562429.html
07:26 TR Bot; Dad Cuts Entire Town's Internet To Get His Kids Offline, Likely To Be Fined Or Even Jailed!
07:27 TR News; NEWS #TechRadar #ProprietarySoftware #GulagDrive is flagging some# macOS files for #copyright violation https://www.techradar.com/in/news/google-drive-is-flagging-some-macos-files-for-copyright-violation
07:27 TR Bot; Drive is flagging some macOS files for copyright violation | TechRadar
07:27 TR News; First Look at GNOME 42s Built-In Screenshot and Screencast Feature Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161656 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
07:27 TR Bot; First Look at GNOME 42s Built-In Screenshot and Screencast Feature | Tux Machines
07:29 TR News; NEWS #IndianExpress #Privacy #Surveillance Explained: How a fake image in a Saudi activists phone blew the lid off NSOs Pegasus spyware https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/how-fake-image-saudi-activist-phone-blew-lid-off-nso-pegasus-spyware-7779916/
07:29 TR Bot; Explained: How a fake image in a Saudi activists phone blew the lid off NSOs Pegasus spyware | Explained News,The Indian Express
07:31 TR News; NEWS #Joinup #freesw The U.S. Department of Defence has published new guidelines for the internal use of open source for cyber defence purposes https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-us-cyber-defence
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07:31 TR Bot; Open source in U.S. cyber defence | Joinup
07:31 TR News; "refusal to consider all #freesw based solely on software being Free/libre may be contrary to statutory and regulatory preferences for [proprietary] products" https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/SoftwareDev-OpenSource.pdf
07:32 TR News; Clown, clown, clown, clown... the Army is #outsourcing to #clowncomputing https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/2927336/deputy-cio-for-information-enterprise-danielle-metz-and-dod-chief-software-offi/
07:32 TR Bot; Deputy CIO for Information Enterprise Danielle Metz and DoD Chief Software Officer Jason Weiss Hold a Media Briefing on the DOD Software Modernization Strategy > U.S. Department of Defense > Transcript
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07:38 TR News; NEWS #SeekingAlpha #NickClegg gets bigger role at #Facebook owner Meta https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60410636 #zuckerberg buying our politicians
07:38 TR Bot; Nick Clegg gets bigger role at Facebook owner Meta - BBC News
07:38 TR News; NEWS #Reuters #AstroTurf Meta CEO #Zuckerberg promotes #NickClegg to lead on policy issues https://www.reuters.com/business/zuckerberg-says-nick-clegg-take-new-role-president-global-affairs-2022-02-16/
07:38 TR Bot; CEO Zuckerberg promotes Nick Clegg to lead on policy issues | Reuters
07:39 TR News; [Old] #TheSundayTimesUK #AstroTurf The inside story of #NickClegg at #Facebook and how much power he really wields https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-inside-story-of-nick-clegg-at-facebook-and-how-much-power-he-really-wields-w30wwt9j7 this person is why I would NEVER vote #libdem ... greedy person, propping up Tories and now Zuckerberg'e #espionage
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07:39 TR Bot; The inside story of Nick Clegg at Facebook and how much power he really wields | The Sunday Times Magazine | The Sunday Times
07:39 TR News; NEWS #CNBC #AstroTurf Britain's former deputy prime minister is now one of the most powerful people at Meta https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/17/mark-zuckerberg-makes-nick-clegg-one-of-metas-most-powerful-execs.html
07:39 TR Bot; Mark Zuckerberg makes Nick Clegg one of Meta's most powerful execs
07:39 TR News; NEWS #ITV #AstroTurf #Facebook 's Mark #Zuckerberg promotes Sir #NickClegg to same level of seniority as him at Meta https://www.itv.com/news/2022-02-17/facebooks-mark-zuckerberg-promotes-sir-nick-clegg-to-more-senior-role-at-meta
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07:40 TR News; [Old] #Quartz # Nick Clegg, Facebooks lead apologist, used to be a political idealist https://qz.com/work/2069106/nick-clegg-facebooks-defender-was-once-a-political-idealist/
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07:42 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Facebook How Facebook twisted Canadas trucker [blockade] into an international movement https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/19/22941291/facebook-canada-trucker-convoy-gofundme-groups-viral-sharing "protest to social [control] media to establishment outlets"
07:43 TR News; NEWS #EestiRahvusringhling #disinformation #Estonia calls on Russia to stop 'provocations, disinformation campaign' https://news.err.ee/1608505802/estonia-calls-on-russia-to-stop-provocations-disinformation-campaign "Ministry of Foreign Affairs wrote on social [control] media" (feeding the very monster that should be tackled)
07:46 TR News; If you open a tab with this thing called #googlevoice (Gulag Voice), even if you are not on call, #pulseaudio shoots up in CPU usage. Is this a #listeningDevices and is the microphone tapped in the background? #malware and #ProprietarySoftware have become almost the same.
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07:49 TR News; NEWS #PsychologyToday #Censorship Is 2022 the Year of Censorship? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202202/is-2022-the-year-censorship
07:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: psychologytoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202202/is-2022-the-year-censorship
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07:51 TR News; NEWS #CoryDoctorow #Monopolies #Murdoch The last days of #Myspace https://pluralistic.net/2022/02/17/live-by-the-swordlive-by-the-sword/#unfriending-tom "low switching costs are kryptonite for network effects."
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07:52 TR News; old: #microsoft killed #nokia and nobody was punished for it https://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia
07:54 TR News; "everything sucks" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180222.html#tFeb%2018%2001:54:40 iophk: also called the "Microsoft Effect"
07:55 TR News; old: How criminals from #microsoft destroyed the most important company in #finland because it was using and spreading #linux https://bgr.com/general/nokia-elop-bonus-scandal/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Nokia
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07:56 TR News; old: #elop was never punished for what he did on behalf of #microsoft criminals including #ballmer and #billgates https://bgr.com/general/nokia-ceo-elop-contract-details/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Nokia
07:57 TR News; #famouscriminal #billgates still considered "acceptable" to some people? https://telanganatoday.com/bill-gates-to-have-chat-with-ktr-on-emerging-healthcare-trends-and-health-infra-development-in-bioasia these "bill sez" pieces as hallmark of media for "sale" https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
07:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: telanganatoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://telanganatoday.com/bill-gates-to-have-chat-with-ktr-on-emerging-healthcare-trends-and-health-infra-development-in-bioasia
07:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cjr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
07:57 TR News; Why you should never vote #libdem https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/16/president-nick-clegg/
07:57 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/16/president-nick-clegg/
07:57 TR News; From British politics to global #espionage https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/feb/16/nick-clegg-facebook-meta-president-global-affairs
07:58 TR News; #estonia shows "more use of #socialcontrolmedia in place of official channels of communication" -iophk https://news.err.ee/1608505802/estonia-calls-on-russia-to-stop-provocations-disinformation-campaign
07:58 TR News; iophk: #socialcontrolmedia is not a source of information but a source of #disinformation :( https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russiaukraine-will-be-worlds-first-naked-war/news-story/4864b19e4f1c34462112e0f51e010b92
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07:59 TR News; #DoD feeding #Microsoft #GitHub :( https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-us-cyber-defence #proprietarySoftware #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
07:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/open-source-us-cyber-defence
08:00 TR News; #jeffreyepstein again https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/modeling-agent-linked-jeffrey-epstein-found-dead-prison-cell-rcna16945 #billgates : "well, he'd dead..." http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/
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08:04 TR News; #JeffreyEpstein and associates vanish https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10530247/Jeffrey-Epsteins-friend-Jean-Luc-Brunel-prison-suicide.html #billgates : "well, he'd dead..." http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/
08:04 Alternative link; Cloudflare: dailymail.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10530247/Jeffrey-Epsteins-friend-Jean-Luc-Brunel-prison-suicide.html
08:05 TR News; Jean-Luc Brunel: Epstein associate found dead in Paris prison cell https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60443518 #billgates : well, hed dead http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/
08:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60443518
08:06 TR News; "Having captured #Instagram , #Facebook ruthlessly strangled potential competitors. It tricked millions of users into installing a fake battery monitor called Onavo, which spied on their mobile usage" https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/107811188504976295
08:07 TR News; "had to explain RSS to two fellow gen z-ers... me: its kind of like subscribing for updates on a website, before "following" was a thing. them: oh, is that something new?" https://post.lurk.org/@pixouls/107820154016359054
08:08 TR News; "By far the best upgrade for #vista10 is #LinuxMint " https://upallnight.minnix.dev/@minnix/107821076089560377 #gnu #linux
08:09 TR News; Youll Need a #Microsoft Account to Set Up Future Versions of #vista11 Pro https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/02/18/1036204 Microsoft: #pentagon contractor http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
08:10 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Preemptive Blocking Orders Help #Greece Tackle Sports #Streaming https://torrentfreak.com/preemptive-blocking-orders-help-greece-tackle-sports-streaming-piracy-220219/
08:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/preemptive-blocking-orders-help-greece-tackle-sports-streaming-piracy-220219/
08:10 TR News; NEWS #TruthOut In a Victory for Activists, Lawsuit Against Arizonas ALEC Lawmakers Can Proceed https://truthout.org/articles/in-a-victory-for-activists-lawsuit-against-arizonas-alec-lawmakers-can-proceed/ #billgates and #microsoft BOTH funded #ALEC
08:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/in-a-victory-for-activists-lawsuit-against-arizonas-alec-lawmakers-can-proceed/
08:24 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, February 19, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/irc-log-190222/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/irc-log-190222/
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09:20 TR News; Links 20/2/2022: #FreeSoftware in U.S. Department of Defence and GNOME 42 in Focus Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/dod-freesw/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/dod-freesw/
09:21 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161657 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:21 TR News; #FreeSoftware in the Public Sector Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161658 #freesw #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:21 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161659 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:32 TR News; #Geminispace Has Thousands of Contributors (Writers and Developers) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/
09:42 TR News; Use different time zones on your Linux KDE desktop | https://opensource.com/article/22/2/use-different-time-zones-linux-kde #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
09:43 TR News; #Geminispace can be easily surveyed/explored using a list of the known capsules in it (while it's still small relative to or compared to the World Wide Web) Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/ #Techrights #internet #cyberspace #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/geminispace-contributors/
09:51 TR News; Sunday Extreme Transparency https://assets.amuniversal.com/6f3b3250558e013a91c0005056a9545d
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09:52 TR News; "Are you struggling with switching from Windows or Mac to Linux" https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp419 #GoingLinux #gnu #linux
09:53 TR News; Homemade Panadapter Brings Waterfall To Old #Radio | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/homemade-panadapter-brings-waterfall-to-old-radio/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
09:55 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161660 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:00 TR News; Temporary EasyOS 3.4.1RC with 5.15.16 kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161393#comment-32872
10:01 TR News; "The software also contains a database of spectra corresponding to chemical elements: once youve taken a spectrum of an unknown sample, you can overlay these onto the resulting plot and try to find a match." https://hackaday.com/2022/02/19/spectrometer-detects-chemicals-by-zapping-samples-with-a-laser-beam/
10:03 TR News; Using PKCS#11 Token With #GPG https://sztsian.github.io/2022/02/20/Using-PKCS11-Token-With-GPG.html
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10:06 TR News; Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161661 #FreeSoftware is a community. "Open Source" is corporations #openwashing their #proprietarySoftware
10:06 TR Bot; Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community | Tux Machines
10:14 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelDRAW Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161662 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw
10:14 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelDRAW | Tux Machines
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11:06 psydroid2; it was probably expected but someone was throwing around FUD in the comments for the article about RISC-V on The Register
11:06 psydroid2; https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/02/17/riscv_chip_wars/
11:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/02/17/riscv_chip_wars/
11:06 TR Bot; RISC-V is keeping its head down in the global chip war The Register Forums
11:06 psydroid2; it's always about protecting the status quo
11:06 psydroid2; which feels backward to me
11:08 psydroid2; it's exactly like the kind of FUD that was thrown around when GNU and Linux were still relatively new
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11:08 schestowitz-TR; gm
11:08 DaemonFC; Morning
11:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I was talking with mom about the COVID vaccines. One of Mandy's coworkers took the Moderna booster, missed her period, and then freaked out and bought pregnancy tests.
11:09 DaemonFC; Then she got her period a week and a half late.
11:09 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: is this the link I showed you last night?
11:09 schestowitz-TR; but for "forums"?
11:09 DaemonFC; That and the 500% higher heart inflammation. I told mom that they dosed everyone with some beta tests.
11:09 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, yes
11:10 psydroid2; I am reading through the comments now
11:10 DaemonFC; And only now are we starting to realize who guessed right and wrong.
11:10 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: good
11:10 schestowitz-TR; I put that in techrights and tuaxmachines also, iirc
11:10 psydroid2; Bruce Hoult is a former SiFive employee who has also worked at Samsung among other companies
11:10 schestowitz-TR; it's contamination
11:10 DaemonFC; Luckily, I looked at the data that was out there and made an educated guess and got it right.
11:11 schestowitz-TR; well, we work from home so we stayed in a sotr of 'bunker'
11:11 DaemonFC; I'm not even sure why Moderna's product was approved given the higher risks.
11:11 schestowitz-TR; without an actual bunker
11:11 DaemonFC; Over the years to come, this will undoubtedly cause more health expenses.
11:11 schestowitz-TR; here is one thing I will tell you
11:11 schestowitz-TR; before we move back on topic
11:12 DaemonFC; Even if few people get heart inflammation, the fact that it's 5 times more for no apparent benefit is troubling.
11:12 schestowitz-TR; 2 weeks ago I went to book a routine blood test
11:12 schestowitz-TR; I got my blood checked every 6 months
11:12 schestowitz-TR; part of NHS
11:12 schestowitz-TR; they said,
11:12 schestowitz-TR; can you gom to another clinic?
11:12 schestowitz-TR; why?
11:12 schestowitz-TR; they said,
11:12 schestowitz-TR; because we are over-capacity
11:12 schestowitz-TR; (for blood test)
11:12 schestowitz-TR; I said,
11:12 schestowitz-TR; I can wait for a while, it's not urgent
11:12 schestowitz-TR; so she booked me for a month later
11:13 schestowitz-TR; I never had this happen before
11:13 DaemonFC; Yeah, labs here aren't like that. It costs money so people don't go in there except as needed.
11:13 schestowitz-TR; waiting for a month for a routine blood test
11:13 schestowitz-TR; so my guess was,
11:13 DaemonFC; You don't go in when you don't expect anything wrong. You'd do it like once a year unless something concerning happens.
11:13 schestowitz-TR; 50 million Brits getting these agents in thje bloodstream leas to... stuff
11:13 schestowitz-TR; *leads
11:14 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> 50 million Brits getting these agents in thje bloodstream leas to... stuff
11:14 schestowitz-TR; I have tow best friends
11:14 schestowitz-TR; (other than rianne)
11:14 DaemonFC; That or good old Boris has cut their budget so badly that they want you to kindly fuck off so they can prioritize people who have medical problems.
11:14 schestowitz-TR; Mark got his knees all swollen
11:14 DaemonFC; Since they don't have the resources anymore.
11:14 schestowitz-TR; the knee specialist told him this happened to lots of people after the AZ vaccine
11:14 schestowitz-TR; his partner started getting brown marks
11:14 schestowitz-TR; she showed me some
11:15 schestowitz-TR; she's only 30
11:15 schestowitz-TR; Mark was violently ill
11:15 DaemonFC; Routine monitoring isn't something they're going to prioritize if the government cuts their budget, even 10-20%.
11:15 schestowitz-TR; and he's a world class athlete with trophies
11:15 schestowitz-TR; his partner kept colapsing whole running
11:15 schestowitz-TR; going unconscious
11:15 schestowitz-TR; it kept happening
11:16 schestowitz-TR; and the physicians could not figure out the cause or how to prevent these
11:16 DaemonFC; Oh yes, and one of Mandy's friends went to the Philippines and got that stupid AZ shot when he could have gotten the Pfizer one here.
11:16 DaemonFC; Now if he gets a booster it can't even match because AZ isn't approved here.
11:16 DaemonFC; It was never approved here, not even for emergency use.
11:16 DaemonFC; And in the mean time, he got COVID anyway, within a few months after the second dose.
11:16 schestowitz-TR; anyway, back to tech
11:17 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: risc-v will be ruined by beurocracy
11:17 schestowitz-TR; like linux foundation
11:17 schestowitz-TR; there will be an influix from rivals
11:17 schestowitz-TR; just like happened in OSI, maybe even FSFE and FSF
11:17 schestowitz-TR; these are assimilation tacticsa
11:17 schestowitz-TR; and the weapon of choice is money
11:17 DaemonFC; Linux is COVID, and climate change, and blockchain.
11:17 DaemonFC; Linux is also a Code of Conduct.
11:17 schestowitz-TR; if a person is stubborn and principled
11:18 schestowitz-TR; theny engineer s a scandal
11:18 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, this time around I expect it to just be forked outright, which is also legal
11:18 schestowitz-TR; like replacing Torvalds with a loser like Zemlin
11:18 DaemonFC; Linux is also a program for AIDS relief.
11:18 psydroid2; once the ISA has all the extensions you need, who needs approval from the RISC-V Foundation or the US?
11:19 DaemonFC; Linux Foundation wants to save the trees, save the bees, save those whales, save some snails.
11:20 psydroid2; we might see RUS-V, VEGA-V, XING-V spring up in some time
11:20 DaemonFC; Whatever Bill and LOLITA Gates Foundation is into, that's what Linux is into.
11:20 psydroid2; all looking just like RISC-V with some changes
11:20 DaemonFC; You can take $50 billion and double in in 20 years by giving it away.
11:21 DaemonFC; What was it? 6% of their budget for Linux the kernel, at the Linux Foundation?
11:21 DaemonFC; And there's no telling what that even means because they didn't say how that was being spent.
11:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, "Corrupt Charity".
11:22 DaemonFC; They should lose their tax exempt status for spending more money getting more money (fundraising) than they do on Linux.
11:23 DaemonFC; It's well known that they cook the books on fundraising too.
11:23 DaemonFC; The Shedd Aquarium sells memberships and then they have special dinners for their members "on the house" every month. The whole thing is catered in.
11:23 DaemonFC; It's really quite nice.
11:27 DaemonFC; The efficiency gap of fundraising is terrible because it's a way for rich people to amuse themselves and write it off their taxes.
11:28 psydroid2; schestowitz-TR, the thing is that as the US you have designed a great new ISA in Berkeley for chips ranging from applications for everything from microcontrollers to supercomputers, but since you have existing companies to protect based on "so-called exceptional" x86, other countries are running away with the technology
11:29 psydroid2; so who is really at fault here? the dinosaurs or the next generation of reptiles?
11:32 schestowitz-TR; bbiab recording
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11:35 DaemonFC; I blame the dinosaurs.
11:35 DaemonFC; After all, when someone is gone, you can blame them for anything you want.
11:36 DaemonFC; Everything around us is being manipulated, even things that don't seem important.
11:37 DaemonFC; When you can control things at a certain level, it makes it easy to shift perception of reality in every way all at once.
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12:23 DaemonFC; https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/19/apple-has-a-clear-path-to-1t-in-revenue-by-2030
12:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/19/apple-has-a-clear-path-to-1t-in-revenue-by-2030
12:23 TR Bot; has a clear path to $1T in revenue by 2030 | AppleInsider
12:23 DaemonFC; LOL
12:23 DaemonFC; Yeah, but it'll be Biden Dollars.
12:24 DaemonFC; The price of bacon is a dollar more per pound every week when you go to the store.
12:24 DaemonFC; Gas is almost $4 a gallon in the midwest, OUTSIDE of Chicago, and almost $5 a gallon in Chicago.
12:25 DaemonFC; Gallons of milk just went up 86 cents all at once last week at Walmart.
12:26 DaemonFC; If you devalue the currency, you can make "a lot of money". In 1978, when you pulled out a $1 bill, it bought what $5 does now.
12:34 DaemonFC; So in 2030, Apple will make less than it does now if it pulls in a trillion dollars that year. If they're even still relevant in 2030.
12:34 DaemonFC; 8 years is a long time in politics or tech.
12:34 DaemonFC; There's no telling what people will use by then. Hopefully, some of them will wake up and there will be better devices than an iPhone.
12:41 psydroid2; phones are just a gimmick
12:41 psydroid2; they're locked down pocket computers that come with many undesireable features
12:42 psydroid2; so why not just make pocket computers that give users freedom at reasonable prices
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12:54 bnchs; psydroid2: because control
12:54 bnchs; they want to put ads on it without the users removing it
12:54 bnchs; and sponsored "apps" that can't be uninstalled
13:01 DaemonFC; https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/20/queen-tests-positive-for-covid
13:01 TR Bot; The Queen tests positive for Covid | The Queen | The Guardian
13:02 DaemonFC; No more waving at football games for a while.
13:03 DaemonFC; "
13:03 DaemonFC; Rep. Yvette Herrell (R-NM) compared Canadas handling of vaccine mandate protesters to an authoritarian regime like Venezuela and said she will introduce legislation to temporarily grant asylum to Canadians protesting vaccine requirements, Mediaite reports."
13:03 DaemonFC; She's likely to lose her next election.
13:03 DaemonFC; New Mexico gerrymandered the districts to try to capture her seat for the Democrats.
13:03 DaemonFC; Obviously, it could backfire, but the odds are against her.
13:04 bnchs; is tiktok a psychological weapon against the west
13:04 bnchs; or against the world
13:04 kingoffrance; "the west" is a psychological weapon
13:04 DaemonFC; They only have three seats in the House, so to go for hers required watering down their own margins in the other two districts with more Republican voters.
13:04 bnchs; i witnessed alot of degenerate content on it
13:04 DaemonFC; So they could conceivably lose a district as well as seeing her re-elected.
13:05 bnchs; Douyin (chinese version) has less degeneracy than tiktok
13:05 kingoffrance; people say "the west" to invent some imaginary bible, its a meaningless term that just means "astrology"
13:06 kingoffrance; so draco the dragon is "western civilization"
13:08 kingoffrance; its just religions trying to steal land, start wars, same thing they always do
13:10 kingoffrance; western civilization is a guy in a bull costume praying to draco the dragon his father in heaven that america be "reborn". so degeneracy is all around
13:10 DaemonFC; https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/18/americans-are-emerging-from-the-pandemic/
13:10 Alternative link; Cloudflare: politicalwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://politicalwire.com/2022/02/18/americans-are-emerging-from-the-pandemic/
13:10 TR Bot; Americans Are Emerging From the Pandemic
13:10 DaemonFC; LOL
13:10 DaemonFC; "We're back! They want to SPEND SPEND SPEND!"
13:12 kingoffrance; funny enough, shamanism was the only religion that claimed to go beyond the pole star system
13:13 kingoffrance; so the horn guy is kind of a degenerate version of shaminism
13:13 DaemonFC; https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/fda-eyes-second-covid-19-booster-shot-11645282800?mod=trending_now_news_4
13:13 TR Bot; Eyes Second Covid-19 Booster Shot - WSJ
13:13 DaemonFC; "otential obstacles to the effort are that many people are fatigued with vaccinations after getting initial doses and that others are hesitant to get the shots. About 65% of the U.S. population is fully vaccinated"
13:14 DaemonFC; Hesitant means that they threaten to kill people over vaccine mandates and have refused the vaccines for over a year now.
13:14 DaemonFC; Just a tad hesitant!
13:14 bnchs; https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/18/politics/doj-reveals-new-messages-oath-keepers-leader-stewart-rhodes/index.html
13:14 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/18/politics/doj-reveals-new-messages-oath-keepers-leader-stewart-rhodes/index.html
13:14 TR Bot; DOJ reveals new Signal messages from Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes - CNNPolitics
13:15 bnchs; how do you think they got the signal messages
13:15 bnchs; the article says nothing about that
13:17 bnchs; is there something going behind the scenes in signal?
13:17 bnchs; or is it some guy who leaked the messsages
13:20 DaemonFC; More likely, they were communicating with undercover law enforcement.
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13:21 DaemonFC; People always forget that the first rule here is that you never really know WHO you're talking to on the other end and if you identify yourself, why are you bothering to encrypt or onion route it?
13:22 bnchs; so in vista 11
13:22 bnchs; "Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed."
13:22 bnchs; taskbar can only be aligned to the bottom now
13:22 DaemonFC; Yeah, well, about that....
13:23 DaemonFC; Some "upgrades" to Windows 10 failed because people had their taskbar on the side or top of the screen.
13:23 psydroid2; as a developer why would you want vista (for other reasons than control)?
13:23 DaemonFC; And the Windows 10 installer couldn't handle that and bailed.
13:23 DaemonFC; Microsoft quality.
13:23 psydroid2; there is nothing of value left in that sorry excuse for an operating system
13:23 bnchs; holy shit i wonder why they did that
13:23 DaemonFC; So it appears that to "fix" that, you just lock the taskbar to the bottom of the screen.
13:24 bnchs; that's like a downgarde
13:24 DaemonFC; Then fixing the actual problem no longer matters because the user can't move the taskbar to another location.
13:24 bnchs; i actually have my XFCE taskbar to the top
13:24 bnchs; and i'm used to it
13:24 DaemonFC; Yeah, you can do whatever you want pretty much.
13:25 psydroid2; of which I like to say that it isn't actually an operating system, but a collection of APIs disguised as an operating system
13:25 DaemonFC; GNOME Shell isn't as customizable, but it's a lot more usable than Windows Explorer.
13:25 psydroid2; this always gets me downvoted, but GNU/Linux + WINE is the better Vista now
13:26 DaemonFC; GNOME Shell is nice for laptop screens.
13:26 DaemonFC; It doesn't use a ton of screen real estate just sitting there.
13:26 psydroid2; I have my Mate bars to the right and the one for open applications at the top but autohiding
13:26 bnchs; i realized i was using top taskbar for the rest of my life
13:26 psydroid2; I just want to have as much vertical space as possible
13:26 bnchs; i remember when i was 8 and had my taskbar to the top
13:27 bnchs; back when i was using windows xp
13:27 DaemonFC; One of the first things you notice moving from Windows 10 to GNOME is that you have about another inch of horizontal screen space.
13:27 DaemonFC; For some reason, Microsoft and Apple waste a ton of space with humongous icons, and Microsoft has been doing that for a long time.
13:28 DaemonFC; Windows 95's shell didn't do that, but Windows 98's did.
13:28 DaemonFC; When I put the Windows 95 shell back in after removing Internet Explorer from 98, I always liked how much extra screen space I had.
13:28 DaemonFC; When you have to use a 1024x768 resolution, those gigantic buttons aren't nice.
13:29 psydroid2; the last Windows I seriously used for everything was 2000
13:29 DaemonFC; Opera defaulted to big buttons too, but you could change that.
13:29 psydroid2; but one disaster led me to move everything over to GNU/Linux
13:29 DaemonFC; Screen space was too valuable for big buttons, but everyone did them anyway.
13:30 psydroid2; Windows fans don't believe you when you tell them Windows eats your NTFS
13:30 bnchs; i first used GNU/Linux because i curious
13:30 bnchs; i was curious*
13:30 DaemonFC; NTFS will be corrupted over and over again.
13:30 psydroid2; I started using Windows and GNU/Linux at the same time
13:30 DaemonFC; Your recovery partition isn't even safe.
13:30 DaemonFC; Malware goes burrowing into that even.
13:30 psydroid2; but I didn't know enough about GNU/Linux to install it yet
13:30 DaemonFC; There's Windows malware now that just puts itself right into the WIM image on the recovery partition.
13:31 bnchs; i used GNU/Linux on a VM at first
13:31 TR News; Use different time zones on your Linux KDE desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161664 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:31 TR Bot; Use different time zones on your Linux KDE desktop | Tux Machines
13:31 DaemonFC; And the recovery partition wastes a TON of space on an SSD.
13:31 bnchs; then i started replacing windows with GNU/Linux
13:31 DaemonFC; Mostly because Lenovo packs it full of trialware that comes back if you reinstall Windows.
13:31 psydroid2; VMs came a few years later, I was dual booting for about 18 months
13:33 DaemonFC; https://lwn.net/Articles/884979/
13:33 TR Bot; on the coming version-100 apocalypse [LWN.net]
13:33 DaemonFC; Or you could freeze the user agent at 99 forever and force websites to check for capabilites.
13:33 DaemonFC; *capabilities
13:34 DaemonFC; Most websites that break due to user agent sniffing....break due to user agent sniffing.
13:34 DaemonFC; It's nothing wrong with the web browser.
13:34 bnchs; i like how naive code made microsoft skip windows 9
13:35 DaemonFC; The only way you make them knock it off is by freezing it so legacy websites work, but people making new sites now realize nothing useful can be gained from trying to read the version number in the user agent.
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13:37 bnchs; User Agents are useless
13:37 bnchs; nobody needs to know what you use
13:42 psydroid2; indeed
13:43 psydroid2; anyone who assumes you are on a certain operating system because of your user agents should probably not be developing websites and other software
13:43 psydroid2; agent*
13:45 bnchs; people abuse user agent to discriminate against any non-chrome users
13:45 bnchs; they'll show a bigass popup telling you to use chrome
13:49 psydroid2; this is why the web needs a big reset
13:49 kingoffrance; agree. a supported features list is debatable. that doesnt include os, browser name, etc. just what features are and are not supported
13:49 psydroid2; or better needs to be replaced by gemini and friends
13:49 psydroid2; don't assume what is on the client's end, just offer the information
13:50 psydroid2; it seems so simple but is difficult in practice because of control
13:51 kingoffrance; for a horrible analogy, autoconf purposely didnt trust any oses or compilers claiming things, they deliberately wanted to test each feature, because people lie, it was the only reliable way. not saying that is a good idea, just they too decided user agents are useless at that level
13:52 bnchs; people abuse user agents to serve lightweight pages to old browser and bloated ass pages to new browsers
13:53 kingoffrance; user agent is thereotically an alias for "supports features x, y, and z". it is really the features that are the issue
13:54 bnchs; features can be disabled in the advanced settings (about:config)
13:54 kingoffrance; *theoretically
13:54 bnchs; so the user agent would be inaccurate to how much features the browser supports
13:54 kingoffrance; yeah, i just mean user agents come and go, features either follow standards or do not
13:54 kingoffrance; true too yes
13:54 kingoffrance; same with compiler flags -std=c89
13:54 kingoffrance; exactly!
13:58 kingoffrance; user agents are perhaps a form of ifdef hell
13:58 kingoffrance; kind of 180 of "standards"
14:01 bnchs; what would be better
14:01 bnchs; is a Javascript-Supported header
14:01 bnchs; and you can query all the features supported in javascript
14:01 bnchs; like OpenGL
14:11 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3_s8ZCsh2Y
14:11 TR Bot; NO TITLE
14:14 kingoffrance; makes me think of duck typing, which im sure there are downsides, but at some level, there are either real standards, or gatekeeping for chosen os+browser combinations
14:19 kingoffrance; question whether people really want "decentralization" or not
14:19 kingoffrance; *question of
14:20 bnchs; they want decentralization with censorship
14:20 bnchs; so anything bad they can remove it
14:21 kingoffrance; ^^^
14:21 kingoffrance; yeah, decentralization for me, not for you lol
14:21 bnchs; i already seen this with mastodon
14:21 kingoffrance; i get a mask, you get unmasked
14:22 bnchs; if you have users that post bad shit
14:22 bnchs; you get delisted
14:22 bnchs; and banned
14:22 bnchs; from all instances
14:22 SomeH4x0r; I seen this with pissnet
14:23 SomeH4x0r; "decentralized", except the DNSBLs are enabled everywhere (aside maybe a few Tor-only servers)
14:23 SomeH4x0r; though it is not truly federated
14:23 bnchs; there won't be decentralization
14:23 bnchs; if our mindset encourages censorship
14:23 bnchs; true decentralization*
14:36 psydroid2; maybe that's how it should be then
14:36 psydroid2; separate "decentralised" cells
14:37 psydroid2; no one will ever agree with everyone else
14:37 psydroid2; but the danger is that some of such cells may prove to be a threat to "society"
14:39 bnchs; yesterweb is like that
14:40 SomeH4x0r; what is yesterweb? Web 1.0?
14:40 bnchs; yesterweb is like the old web 1.0 but they like to still have the SJW censorship
14:41 SomeH4x0r; is "yesterweb" an entity or an idea?
14:41 bnchs; "The Yesterweb is a community [...]"
14:41 bnchs; they have a gemini
14:42 SomeH4x0r; a centralized group, or something like Anonymous?
14:42 bnchs; a centralized group i think
14:42 bnchs; https://yesterweb.org
14:42 TR Bot; The Yesterweb - Reclaiming the Internet
14:43 bnchs; here's some funny quote: "The second problem is that many decentralized apps in particular have garnered a widespread reputation for hate speech. In many of these spaces (IRC included), free speech becomes synonymous with hate speech. Its no surprise that one would be reluctant to associate themselves (especially a community) with that kind of reputation." https://yesterweb.org/p/why-discord.html
14:43 TR Bot; Why Discord?
14:44 kingoffrance; yeah, thats why i dont take "degeneracy" seriously. it will be like that kind of "hate speech" -- undefined, ever-shifting ...
14:45 kingoffrance; a license to sin for the elect, inquisition for everyone else
14:45 psydroid2; why wasn't the yesterweb dead on arrival? or is it?
14:45 psydroid2; is/was*
14:45 bnchs; it is dead on arrival
14:45 bnchs; it got made fun of
14:48 SomeH4x0r; someone should make a service tracking Let's Encrypt-affected websites
14:48 SomeH4x0r; fucking ENOUGH
14:48 bnchs; their ridicious "hate speech" rule conflicts with their statement: "[...] acknowledges that today's internet is lacking in creativity, [self-expression], and good digital social infrastructure"
14:48 bnchs; you can't have self-expression without "hate speech"
14:48 SomeH4x0r; no trust here, this trust model was never good, and this thing is even further making it look nonsense
14:49 TR News; Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161663 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:49 TR Bot; Every Software Developer Needs to be a Part of an Open Source Community | Tux Machines
14:49 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelDRAW Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161665 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:49 bnchs; the idea of CA is shit
14:49 TR News; Fixing performance issues with Realtek RTL8156B 2.5GbE USB dongle in #Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161666 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:49 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to CorelDRAW | Tux Machines
14:50 TR Bot; Fixing performance issues with Realtek RTL8156B 2.5GbE USB dongle in Ubuntu | Tux Machines
14:51 SomeH4x0r; I don't think Mastodon belongs to the Web 1.0
14:52 SomeH4x0r; they'd better at least use some webforums
14:52 bnchs; they literally use discord
14:52 SomeH4x0r; or better, mailing lists
14:52 bnchs; and some VR bullshit and minecraft server
14:54 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/01/you-know-you-dont-have-to-share-every-thought-you-have-on-the-internet/
14:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/01/you-know-you-dont-have-to-share-every-thought-you-have-on-the-internet/
14:54 TR Bot; You Know, You Dont HAVE To Share Every Thought You Have On The Internet (19 Posts)
14:55 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161667 #Linux #TuxMachines
14:55 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:58 SomeH4x0r; I don't see the source code for their weird "browser"
14:58 SomeH4x0r; oh, now I do
14:58 bnchs; where
14:58 SomeH4x0r; BUT FUCK GITLAB WITH CLOWNFLARE
14:59 SomeH4x0r; https://gitlab.com/ro1y/yesterweb-surf
14:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gitlab.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gitlab.com/ro1y/yesterweb-surf
14:59 TR Bot; Poly / Yesterweb Surf+ GitLab
15:00 schestowitz-TR; oh
15:00 schestowitz-TR; Cloudflare: gitlab.com
15:00 schestowitz-TR; not good
15:00 schestowitz-TR; thyey had ipo
15:00 bnchs; it's an electron
15:00 schestowitz-TR; cannot do their own cdn??
15:00 schestowitz-TR; we had a cdn of ours own
15:01 schestowitz-TR; with varnish
15:01 schestowitz-TR; why can't they?
15:06 bnchs; why does proprietary software on windows look like old ass shit
15:07 bnchs; sometimes bloated sometimes old
15:07 bnchs; like this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpeedFan
15:07 TR Bot; SpeedFan - Wikipedia
15:07 SomeH4x0r; there is no "old ass shit", you are brainwashed
15:08 SomeH4x0r; a program is a tool, it should do its job, that's it
15:08 bnchs; no
15:08 bnchs; i mean the UI
15:08 SomeH4x0r; the user should be able to understand how to work with it. It doesn't have to have some weird-"modern" UI which wastes CPU
15:08 bnchs; yes i hate modern UI
15:09 MinceR; MICROS~1 pioneered that
15:10 bnchs; you see this kind of UI in dinobabies programs
15:10 MinceR; they came up with a new look, made a version of Backdoors with it, then ASAP changed their mind and made a version of Orifice which already had to look better
15:10 MinceR; so it had custom widgets
15:10 MinceR; and then of course their followers had to get that look in their programs so they all came with custom widgets
15:10 SomeH4x0r; one UI. Forever. Don't make users learn to use it over and over.
15:11 MinceR; then Backdoors XP came out with its own incompatible style, then vista with its own, etc.
15:11 MinceR; every time your Backdoors application will look like the oldest version of Backdoors it can run on
15:11 MinceR; gulag seems to have copied this with android
15:11 bnchs; something about the icons and style seems outdated
15:11 bnchs; like the windows XP progress bar mixed with the crude icons
15:11 MinceR; even though free toolkits could do this whole theming thing properly for decades
15:12 MinceR; s/look better/look different/
15:14 psydroid2; Microsoft just never upgraded the basic look and feel of win32 applications, which shows us the problem with making a graphics API a fundamental and inextricably tied part of your "operating system"
15:15 SomeH4x0r; no "outdated". It is useful. Enough.
15:20 psydroid2; I remember when I was "interested" in Backdoors programming there was this horrible MFC and also C++ Builder with its VCL (from Delphi), which was much easier to develop with
15:21 psydroid2; of course that couldn't be allowed so they hired away many of Borland's developers to create the abomination that is called .NET
15:32 XRevan86; My feed in Russian is 80% war-related.
15:33 SomeH4x0r; feed?
15:33 schestowitz-TR; life is war
15:33 XRevan86; Atom/RSS feed
15:33 schestowitz-TR; war is life
15:43 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: maybe wrong feed choices
15:43 schestowitz-TR; like mt patent feeds
15:43 XRevan86; schestowitz: Quite the opposite.
15:44 schestowitz-TR; i did a 3 hour video about it just now
15:44 schestowitz-TR; 90% of the feeds isa noise/lies
15:45 schestowitz-TR; rss is good
15:45 schestowitz-TR; unlike social control 'media'
15:45 schestowitz-TR; but deoends on the feeds
15:46 schestowitz-TR; GIGO
15:48 XRevan86; schestowitz: Even economy-oriented news are about how the war is affecting the market.
15:48 schestowitz-TR; so many important stories ill get lose in the mist
15:48 schestowitz-TR; when you said the army had been attacked
15:49 schestowitz-TR; I immediately told rianne not to even tell me what MSM was saying
15:49 schestowitz-TR; as it was info war
15:49 schestowitz-TR; both russian and western media weould lie
15:49 schestowitz-TR; and then you can easily focus on other news which matters
15:50 XRevan86; schestowitz: L/DPR is barraging the media with easily debunkable fakes right now.
15:51 XRevan86; The most entertaining being the February 18th announcements of February 17th Ukraine aggression filmed at February 16th
15:52 XRevan86; They forgot about the video file metadata.
15:53 XRevan86; As when they uploaded .mp4's to Telegram, they were kept as-is.
15:59 schestowitz-TR; So Telegram is like WhatsApp when it comes to "news"
15:59 schestowitz-TR; people spreading shit to cause outrage
15:59 schestowitz-TR; over things that tturn out to be false
16:00 schestowitz-TR; but only when it's too late
16:00 schestowitz-TR; when damage gets done and people die from mobs
16:00 XRevan86; They also uploaded it all to other websites.
16:01 XRevan86; But Telegram didn't reencode, which helped reveal the original metadata.
16:01 schestowitz-TR; i see..
16:01 schestowitz-TR; I reencode right now
16:01 schestowitz-TR; 3 hours of video
16:01 schestowitz-TR; doubly-rencoded
16:01 schestowitz-TR; format shift and overlay added
16:01 bnchs; reencoded is a waste of CPU
16:02 XRevan86; A peculiar detail is that the directory saved in metadata was called "Mongoose Throw".
16:02 bnchs; wtf is mongoose throw
16:03 XRevan86; https://atlas-report.com/operation-mongoose-throw-is-the-possible-name-of-the-russian-false-flag-operation-to-invade-ukraine/ found information in English by putting that into a search engine.
16:03 TR Bot; Operation "Mongoose Throw" is the Possible Name of the Russian False Flag Operation to Invade Ukraine | The Atlas Report
16:03 XRevan86; bnchs: A false attack by a mongoose to force an attack from a snake to then kill it.
16:03 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: maybw ehen itm poops
16:03 schestowitz-TR; or the "throw" they cover it with
16:05 bnchs; vlad they know now, shut it down!!
16:07 schestowitz-TR; vlad are you talking about?
16:07 psydroid2; there is only one vlad and his other name is tepes!
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16:20 XRevan86; https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://znak.com/2022-02-20/video_o_bombe_pod_mostom_na_puti_evakuacii_bezhencev_bylo_sozdano_v_2019_godu They just don't learn.
16:20 TR Bot; 2019
16:20 bnchs; are you russian?
16:20 XRevan86; bnchs: Is it that obvious?
16:22 bnchs; well uhhh
16:22 SomeH4x0r; I'm Ukrainian, but Russian is my first language
16:23 XRevan86; bnchs: That was a joke question :)
16:23 MinceR; vlad tepes was supposed to have died ages ago
16:24 MinceR; vladolf putler, on the other hand...
16:24 MinceR; 20 163310 < schestowitz-TR> life is war
16:24 MinceR; "Life is war. And I'm gonna win!" -- "Trench Head" Jones
16:27 XRevan86; "And I'm gonna win" <- Will go to heaven as a martyr?
16:27 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/wheelchair.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-wheelchair#comic )
16:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/wheelchair.png
16:27 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
16:27 MinceR; dunno
16:27 *psydroid2 , -
16:27 XRevan86; *
16:27 MinceR; the quote is from Dark Heresy, a Warhammer 40000 RPG, so it's an obviously unrealistic expectation
16:28 psydroid2;
16:28 MinceR; also, it's from an imperial guardsman
16:28 psydroid2; it's been a few years
16:28 SomeH4x0r; *
16:28 MinceR; probably
16:28 XRevan86; MinceR: My response is a quote from a certain Putin.
16:29 psydroid2; I guess I need to review that stuff some day
16:30 psydroid2; my friends told me about Surzhyk, some hillbilly mix between Ukrainian and Russian
16:30 SomeH4x0r; yes
16:30 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: That's just too obvious :)
16:31 XRevan86; psydroid2: One could consider Scottish to be a mix of Scots and English
16:32 psydroid2; XRevan86, unless it's Scottish Gaelic, I guess
16:32 XRevan86; It's partly influence and partly just dialectal continuity.
16:32 XRevan86; psydroid2: Right, that's a very different language.
16:32 XRevan86; I meant Scottish English.
16:33 XRevan86; Belarusian and Russian also form a dialectical continuity.
16:33 psydroid2; I have this dichotomy as in Russian and Ukrainian in my native (heritage) languages too
16:33 XRevan86; Don't know about Ukrainian and Belarusian, but I would expect it.
16:34 psydroid2; one Western Hindi and one Eastern Hindi/Bihari language
16:35 psydroid2; when I was learning Russian and Ukrainian I found Ukrainian easier to learn based on what I already knew from Polish
16:35 XRevan86; psydroid2: That makes sense
16:35 psydroid2; just on Duolingo, but you have to start somewhere
16:43 psydroid2; s/as in/as with/
16:52 XRevan86; psydroid2: Belarusian would've been more friendly to someone familiar with Polish, but Duolingo doesn't teach it.
16:57 bnchs; is there a good free fiber optic router
16:57 bnchs; optical fiber*
16:58 bnchs; i mean free as in freedom
16:59 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-15.jpg
16:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-1-22-15.jpg
17:05 psydroid2; XRevan86, there are many languages it doesn't teach for various opaque reasons. I've been learning Serbo-Croatian from a textbook, but that makes a bit less accessible to new learners.
17:06 psydroid2; the Arabic course on Duolingo is very succinct and doesn't teach much, but makes subsequent steps a bit less scary.
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17:29 TR Bot; There Was Never Web 2.0, So There Cannot be Web 3 and the Future of the Web Doesnt Look Good | Techrights
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17:36 bnchs; web 3.0 should be the current state of the bloated web
17:37 bnchs; web 1.0 = lightweight personal sites, web 2.0 = lightweight and small social media, web 3.0 = modern bloated web sites (we are here now), web 4.0 = "decentralized" "crypto" meme
17:40 schestowitz-TR; HAHA
17:41 schestowitz-TR; "crypto"
17:41 schestowitz-TR; whhhhaeva
17:42 bnchs; i'll do what i waent whaaeva
17:42 schestowitz-TR; and then she shut da door
17:44 bnchs; unprotected sex over 300 TIMES
17:45 schestowitz-TR; i am uploading about 500mb of videos
17:45 schestowitz-TR; that'll take a while over this connection...
17:45 bnchs; whats your upload speed
17:45 schestowitz-TR; I throttle it down a bit
17:46 schestowitz-TR; so I can go other things in tandem
17:46 SomeH4x0r; schestowitz-TR: I have issues accessing the Gemini thing for the second time
17:46 schestowitz-TR; 30KB/sec first pass
17:46 SomeH4x0r; not found again
17:46 bnchs; i have a sub 0.8 kb/s upload speed but i uploaded 161 GB
17:46 schestowitz-TR; theen up to 40
17:46 bnchs; seeded 161 GB in my torrent client
17:46 schestowitz-TR; good
17:47 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: which capsule?
17:47 schestowitz-TR; we changed no coinfigs
17:47 SomeH4x0r; techrights, the links provided by the bots
17:47 SomeH4x0r; *news bot
17:47 schestowitz-TR; ah, because it's not ready yet
17:47 schestowitz-TR; it runs the job in the background
17:47 SomeH4x0r; are you serious, wtf? Clownflare kiwiirc frame?
17:48 SomeH4x0r; why can't you fucking self host?
17:48 schestowitz-TR; I tried
17:48 schestowitz-TR; but stopped short of installing the dependencies
17:48 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/car-accident.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-car-accident#comic )
17:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/car-accident.png
17:48 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
17:48 SomeH4x0r; why frame it?
17:48 schestowitz-TR; check out the installation instructions to see what garbage that pulls over
17:49 SomeH4x0r; what about qwebirc?
17:49 schestowitz-TR; I tried that also
17:49 schestowitz-TR; it's still installed
17:49 schestowitz-TR; they have hardly developed it in years
17:49 SomeH4x0r; doesn't matter
17:49 bnchs; schestowitz: i have an idea
17:49 schestowitz-TR; check their repo
17:49 schestowitz-TR; and you will see
17:49 bnchs; make the kiwiirc a link
17:49 SomeH4x0r; or Mibbit
17:49 bnchs; like webchat or something
17:49 SomeH4x0r; but why frames?
17:49 schestowitz-TR; iirc, kiwiirc is tons of nosejs crap
17:50 schestowitz-TR; and vue.js
17:50 SomeH4x0r; why you let Clownflare track people?
17:50 bnchs; you're loading kiwiirc in a frame
17:50 bnchs; which the browser will automatically load
17:50 bnchs; at least give links
17:50 schestowitz-TR; there are links alwo
17:50 schestowitz-TR; at bottom of articles
17:50 schestowitz-TR; i didn't know it was clownflare
17:50 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's a new thing
17:51 SomeH4x0r; it was for months at least
17:51 bnchs; i have frames disabled in my browser anyway
17:51 SomeH4x0r; I clearly see "Please wait..."
17:51 schestowitz-TR; I added that last year
17:51 bnchs; 3rd party frames disabled*
17:52 SomeH4x0r; NetSurf has little configurable things
17:52 SomeH4x0r; other web browsers display CSS worse
17:52 schestowitz-TR; pia funded kiwiirc
17:52 schestowitz-TR; weird that
17:52 SomeH4x0r; (I mean alternative ones)
17:52 schestowitz-TR; 1) freenode might still use clownflare
17:52 schestowitz-TR; and kiwi also
17:53 schestowitz-TR; as they advertise privacy and vpns
17:53 SomeH4x0r; so don't frame shit
17:53 schestowitz; https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.techrights.org/?nick=techrights_guest|?&theme=mini#techrights
17:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kiwiirc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.techrights.org/?nick=techrights_guest|?&theme=mini#techrights
17:53 TR Bot; Kiwi IRC - The web IRC client
17:53 bnchs; don't frame shit ever
17:53 bnchs; it's like forcefully load sites
17:53 SomeH4x0r; this double-agent stuff is annoying
17:53 schestowitz; are you sure it is clownflare... me checking
17:53 bnchs; increases your site size
17:53 SomeH4x0r; ok, I will screenshot it
17:54 bnchs; cloudflare CA
17:54 schestowitz; http://remote.12dt.com/rns/lookup.php
17:54 TR Bot; Reverse DNS Lookup
17:54 schestowitz; (unable to resolve 172.67.68.85)
17:55 bnchs; try access kiwiirc.com via direct IP
17:55 bnchs; without domain
17:55 *Achylles (~Achylles_@2804:431:d724:7449:3b4d:585c:367b:f390) has joined #techrights
17:55 schestowitz; "v"
17:55 schestowitz; oooof
17:55 schestowitz; "If you are interested in learning more about Cloudflare, please visit our website."
17:55 SomeH4x0r; https://www.executingreality.com/~someh4xx/tmp/clown.png
17:56 schestowitz; "Direct IP access not allowed"
17:56 schestowitz; Fake security
17:56 schestowitz; given that the irc stuff runs without CF, why even outsource the web page?
17:56 SomeH4x0r; it is what I see
17:56 schestowitz; most of the strain comes from serving the JS and managing it from the server side
17:57 schestowitz-TR; oh, nice. netsurf
17:57 schestowitz-TR; and it renders perfectly well
17:58 schestowitz-TR; looks like it 'protects' you from CF
17:58 schestowitz-TR; and sends CF into a panic
17:59 bnchs; i'm pretty sure tor does it
17:59 bnchs; does too*
17:59 schestowitz-TR; I assumed so
17:59 schestowitz-TR; but ime
17:59 SomeH4x0r; yes, it is over Tor
17:59 schestowitz-TR; netsurf would not render kiwi regardless
17:59 schestowitz-TR; its handling of JS is not advanced enough
17:59 schestowitz-TR; ve.js
17:59 schestowitz-TR; vue.js
18:00 schestowitz-TR; i have netsurf running 2/47 on tr
18:00 schestowitz-TR; it does not render that part
18:00 schestowitz-TR; which is OK
18:02 bnchs; i wanna end the web browser monopoly
18:02 schestowitz-TR; leave the web
18:03 schestowitz-TR; and then that's a monopoly on scraps
18:03 schestowitz-TR; problem is,
18:03 schestowitz-TR; gulag controls the "apps" world too
18:03 schestowitz-TR; so chrome isn't critical to them
18:03 schestowitz-TR; soon steam deck will also spoil a gaming OS monopoly
18:03 schestowitz-TR; except for consoles
18:04 schestowitz-TR; i hear that a lot of "Games" are already just for "mobile"
18:04 schestowitz-TR; microsodt:
18:04 schestowitz-TR; we are gaming compan
18:04 schestowitz-TR; we are clown company
18:04 schestowitz-TR; we are security company
18:04 schestowitz-TR; we are hardware company
18:04 schestowitz-TR; what next?
18:04 bnchs; the latest techrights story is 2.5 MB uncompressed
18:04 schestowitz-TR; we are ''open source'' (proprietary shithub) company
18:04 MinceR; MICROS~1 World Government
18:04 schestowitz-TR; social control media (linkedin
18:04 bnchs; anyway, microsoft has been buying alot of companies
18:05 bnchs; including gaming companies
18:05 schestowitz-TR; communication (skype, another lost monopoly)
18:05 bnchs; and locking them into their platform of windows and xbox
18:05 MinceR; nobody wants to use MICROS~1 products so MICROS~1 started buying companies to get their clients
18:05 schestowitz-TR; they try to be "phones" company with nokia
18:05 bnchs; they even tried to buy discord and tiktok
18:05 MinceR; that's why they bought skype, shithub and zenimax
18:05 bnchs; probably to make it windows-exclusive
18:06 schestowitz-TR; minecraft bow requires windows/ms account
18:06 schestowitz-TR; ridiculous
18:06 schestowitz-TR; account to play a game...
18:06 schestowitz-TR; ugly game
18:06 schestowitz-TR; fugly even
18:06 bnchs; yes
18:06 bnchs; even in the mobile version
18:06 bnchs; you need a xbox account to go online
18:06 schestowitz-TR; lol
18:07 bnchs; it's probably gonna drive away users
18:07 schestowitz-TR; microsoft: we have BILLIONS of users!!!!
18:07 schestowitz-TR; gulag: we have BILLIONS of gmail accounts
18:07 schestowitz-TR; (you need one to use chromeOS and Android iirc)
18:07 bnchs; schestowitz: you don't need one to use android
18:07 schestowitz-TR; or just "pixel" ones
18:07 bnchs; you need one to use their gulag play store
18:07 bnchs; or any of their gulag services
18:07 schestowitz-TR; so there you go
18:08 XRevan86; psydroid2: I don't think there's a reason other than that no one made the course.
18:08 schestowitz-TR; gmail as your "chi["
18:08 schestowitz-TR; *chip
18:08 bnchs; i wanted to talk to my teacher via email
18:08 bnchs; but he had a outlook email
18:08 schestowitz-TR; microsoft email
18:08 schestowitz-TR; with an old brand
18:08 schestowitz-TR; using the living ones
18:08 schestowitz-TR; now that hotmail is uncool
18:08 bnchs; microsoft rejects any email from any unwhitelisted email sites
18:09 schestowitz-TR; and msn is rotting away
18:09 bnchs; i tried to send one, but outlook sent me a response telling me my email didn't go through because i wasn't microsoft-approved
18:09 psydroid2; we are a joke of a company!
18:09 schestowitz-TR; awww
18:09 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: bailout and graft company
18:10 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
18:10 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
18:10 bnchs; i fucking hate their email monopoly
18:10 bnchs; especially since our education system depends on their email crap
18:10 psydroid2; ultimately it's their "customers" who are propping them up
18:10 psydroid2; stop buying their malware and there will be no money left to continue
18:10 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161668 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
18:10 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
18:11 psydroid2; I tried to create a "free" oracle cloud account this morning
18:11 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: so more n0o-bid pentagon contracts
18:11 schestowitz-TR; a contract with the pentagon for zune
18:11 psydroid2; everything went fine until it asked me for a "credit card"
18:11 schestowitz-TR; and otther dead ends like "hololens"
18:11 schestowitz-TR; contract with bob
18:11 psydroid2; so that was it, no oracle cloud account
18:12 bnchs; microsoft is refusing to believe that their OS is rotting
18:12 psydroid2; but it was good to see it myself
18:12 bnchs; only held by abandoned proprietary dinobabies programs
18:12 psydroid2; I think that is great for us
18:12 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: Ariadn3 did an account with them
18:12 schestowitz-TR; and they did something horrible
18:12 bnchs; any program worth their shit got ported to GNU/Linux
18:12 schestowitz-TR; later corrected it only due to very bad publicity
18:12 psydroid2; as long as microsoft refuses to believe it, they will not be implementing the real solution
18:13 schestowitz-TR; WSL!
18:13 schestowitz-TR; that too failed
18:13 schestowitz-TR; soon 5 years
18:13 bnchs; as long as they keep empolying these stupid decisions (like forcing an account or internet connection during setup)
18:13 psydroid2; WSL is a toy
18:13 schestowitz-TR; even its main shill left canonical
18:13 bnchs; they will drive away users
18:13 psydroid2; WSA is a toy
18:13 schestowitz-TR; works for suse/rancher on containers now
18:14 psydroid2; every other company and community outinnovates microsoft
18:14 psydroid2; whether that's a good or a bad thing
18:14 bnchs; the only things that need to be ported are work programs and games to GNU/Linux
18:14 psydroid2; yes
18:14 schestowitz-TR; or
18:14 psydroid2; and that's a not a big thing
18:14 schestowitz-TR; rely on proton/wine
18:14 schestowitz-TR; not that it is good
18:14 schestowitz-TR; but a compromise
18:14 bnchs; (except fortnite, fuck tim sweeney)
18:15 psydroid2; "find Windows program, look at what it does and write a new application with the same functionality for GNU/Linux"
18:15 bnchs; psydroid2: thats a better solution
18:15 psydroid2; I don't consider wine a solution for most applications
18:15 bnchs; you would need someone that use the program and tells you what features do which
18:15 psydroid2; it still ties you to windows and x86
18:16 psydroid2; so it can only be a temporary workaround
18:16 psydroid2; yes
18:16 bnchs; and document it for the developers
18:16 psydroid2; I did this before when I sat with an accountant friend of mine
18:16 psydroid2; he told me his requirements and I wrote the software
18:16 psydroid2; of course it changed a few times, but eventually he got what he needed
18:17 schestowitz-TR; no excel "tools"?
18:17 bnchs; yes
18:17 schestowitz-TR; ot MS Access? :-)
18:17 bnchs; it's easier for you, because your program only has 1 user
18:17 psydroid2; he did it in excel at first, but then we moved things to openoffice
18:17 schestowitz-TR; Ballmer said he uses Excelt as a CALENDAR
18:17 psydroid2; then I implemented a macro
18:17 bnchs; if there were billions of users
18:17 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft dinobaby
18:17 psydroid2; and then I rewrote the code to C++
18:18 bnchs; the best thing i could say
18:18 psydroid2; I was just short of implementing a GUI in Qt
18:18 bnchs; is write the basic parts of the program
18:18 schestowitz; bnchs: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ballmer-crazy.mp4
18:18 schestowitz; 2021 footage
18:18 bnchs; and ask accountants and shit for any possible feedback and feature requests
18:18 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/NOPE-NOPE-NOPE.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-nope-nope-nope#comic )
18:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/NOPE-NOPE-NOPE.png
18:18 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
18:19 psydroid2; microsoft is counting on business software staying on windows
18:19 bnchs; schestowitz, i didn't know if that was a beard or a hat on his mouth
18:19 bnchs; is that a mask?
18:19 psydroid2; but I think there is a generation of developers who are more comfortable with GNU/Linux
18:19 bnchs; it looked like a beard
18:20 schestowitz-TR; that's not what's important
18:20 bnchs; yes i know
18:20 bnchs; i wouldn't want him to rub my thigh
18:21 TR News; platform
18:22 TR News; Best Free Android Apps: #OpenLieroX - multiplayer PvP platform game - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-android-apps-openlierox-multiplayer-pvp-platform-game/
18:22 TR Bot; Free Android Apps: OpenLieroX - multiplayer PvP platform game - LinuxLinks
18:22 schestowitz-TR; "I pay your salary, not I get to touch your groin"
18:22 schestowitz-TR; *now
18:23 bnchs; psydroid2, developers have no choice, if they want to go to higher level, they have to use a UNIX/UNIX-like OS
18:23 bnchs; there's lots of important commands
18:23 bnchs; windows is simply a baby OS
18:23 TR News; Podcast #16 With Luke Short: #Steam on #ChromeOS is Coming & How #SteamDeck will change Linux Gaming - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/podcast-16-with-luke-short-how-far-are-we-from-having-steam-on-chromeos-and-how-the-steam-deck-will-change-linux-gaming/ #boilingsteam
18:23 TR Bot; Podcast #16 With Luke Short: Steam on ChromeOS is Coming & How Steam Deck will change Linux Gaming - Boiling Steam
18:24 bnchs; i have a question
18:24 schestowitz-TR; Fisher Pr1OS
18:25 bnchs; is satan nutella a cover?
18:25 bnchs; for some secret CEO
18:25 schestowitz-TR; lol
18:25 schestowitz-TR; satan nutella
18:25 schestowitz-TR; satan eats no nutella
18:25 schestowitz-TR; anyway, msft is controlled by the board
18:25 schestowitz-TR; who are tied to shareholders
18:26 schestowitz-TR; inc. bill gates
18:26 schestowitz-TR; who was tied to epstein
18:26 schestowitz-TR; but well, "he's dead"
18:26 bnchs; so bill gates is still in control?
18:26 schestowitz-TR; no
18:26 schestowitz-TR; partial
18:26 bnchs; or did he convince mr nutella to get a anti-competivite mindset like him
18:27 TR News; Speedpaintings Brushes, Tips and 4 Timelapses - Krita 5 - David Revoy https://www.davidrevoy.com/article893/speedpaintings-brushes-tips-and-4-timelapses-krita-5 #davidrevoy #krita #kde #art
18:27 TR Bot; Speedpaintings Brushes, Tips and 4 Timelapses - Krita 5 - David Revoy
18:28 schestowitz-TR; nutella has conflict palmoil mindset
18:28 bnchs; nadella nutella
18:28 bnchs; same thing
18:29 psydroid2; satan nutella is part of the old clique
18:29 psydroid2; a "friendly" face on the same old pig
18:29 schestowitz-TR; casta nadella
18:30 schestowitz-TR; career0climbing opportunist participating in the crimes
18:30 bnchs; "Hit Refresh: The quest to rediscover Microsoft's soul and imagine a better future for everyone"
18:30 bnchs; satan nutella's own book
18:30 schestowitz; not so "friendly" to women
18:30 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/microsoft-gender-equality/
18:30 TR Bot; Microsoft Gender (In)Equality: Women Dont Ask for Raises | Techrights
18:30 bnchs; in which the end, he found no soul in microsoft
18:30 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Steve_Ballmer.jpg
18:31 bnchs; steve BALLmer
18:31 bnchs; a pair of balls on steve's face
18:31 XRevan86; https://cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-invasion-us-intelligence-orders/
18:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: cbsnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-invasion-us-intelligence-orders/
18:31 TR Bot; U.S. has intel that Russian commanders have orders to proceed with Ukraine invasion - CBS News
18:31 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: .
18:32 *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
18:32 bnchs; oh no ukrainee
18:32 TR News; Some tricks for prettier xs http://blogs.perl.org/users/leon_timmermans/2022/02/some-tricks-for-prettier-xs.html #perl #programming
18:32 TR Bot; tricks for prettier xs | Leon Timmermans [blogs.perl.org]
18:32 XRevan86; bnchs: Yea, SomeH4x0r lives in Ukraine.
18:33 XRevan86; And I have *direct* interest in this as well.
18:33 TR News; Stop being USED by #microsoft #github and serve actual developers, not their foes https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2022/02/please-provide-tarball-releases-of-your.html #deletegithub
18:33 TR Bot; Nibble Stew: Please provide tarball releases of your projects
18:33 XRevan86; So the sarcasm is not appropriate.
18:34 XRevan86; I'm pretty much thoroughly screwed.
18:35 TR News; "This is the 6th episode in a series I am writing about using #Slackware as your private/personal clown server. It is an unscheduled break-out topic to discuss an #Etherpad server specifically." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-cloud-server-series-episode-6-etherpad-with-whiteboard/
↺ https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/slackware-cloud-server-series-episode-6-etherpad-with-whiteboard/
18:35 TR Bot; Slackware Cloud Server Series Episode 6: Etherpad with Whiteboard | Alien Pastures
18:35 bnchs; yes of course
18:35 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: cbs?
18:35 schestowitz-TR; could be pure propaganda
18:36 schestowitz-TR; I look at this as onion with straight face
18:36 XRevan86; schestowitz: It's "US intelligence" again.
18:36 schestowitz-TR; haha
18:36 schestowitz-TR; yes
18:36 XRevan86; But they were right the previous time, so
18:36 schestowitz-TR; "intelligent"
18:36 schestowitz-TR; like dead colin powell
18:36 bnchs; US intelligence
18:36 schestowitz-TR; ask bloomberg
18:36 bnchs; they should remove the intelligence
18:36 schestowitz-TR; russia already invaded last month
18:36 schestowitz-TR; with cardboard tanks
18:36 bnchs; their IQs are going below the charts
18:37 schestowitz-TR; better distract from wall street bubble
18:37 schestowitz-TR; "NO TIME FOR ECONMY!!!!!! THIS IS W A R ! ! !"
18:37 bnchs; are they gonna start drafting people to military
18:37 schestowitz-TR; "so what if our companies are worth less than 10 times what we claim them to be worth?"
18:38 schestowitz-TR; "and so what if we have 30+ trillion in debt in millions without a root"
18:38 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: maybe they will start with the unhoused
18:38 schestowitz-TR; "free food... in ukraine"
18:38 schestowitz-TR; "FREE FLGIHTS"
18:38 schestowitz-TR; "GEE MAN!!! I'm going to EUROPE!!
18:38 bnchs; we already forcefully draft school dropouts to military
18:39 schestowitz-TR; so, you know what troops are like
18:39 psydroid2; oh wow
18:39 schestowitz-TR; "only the very best'
18:39 schestowitz-TR; dropouts platoons
18:39 psydroid2; go to school or join the military?
18:39 bnchs; yes
18:39 bnchs; the military website actually has a form
18:39 bnchs; where you can check if you're gonna be drafted
18:39 psydroid2; no one has tried to escape yet?
18:40 bnchs; people have, as soon as they saw their names on the website
18:40 psydroid2; they came looking for a friend of mine in ukraine in 2013
18:40 psydroid2; he's in thailand now and doesn't plan to go back to ukraine anytime soon
18:41 bnchs; they have to do it fast though
18:41 bnchs; as soon as they hear a knock from the military it's over
18:41 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: so they look at the site
18:41 schestowitz-TR; and the name is there
18:41 schestowitz-TR; and the webmaster says
18:41 schestowitz-TR; "due, relax!!"
18:41 schestowitz-TR; "it's only a DRAFT!"
18:41 schestowitz-TR; /*dude
18:41 bnchs; there's actually parody videos of it
18:41 bnchs; or skits
18:41 schestowitz-TR; ah, ok
18:42 bnchs; but it's a real thing
18:42 schestowitz-TR; so others came up with this already
18:42 schestowitz-TR; like in bloomber
18:42 schestowitz-TR; one moment it's a draft
18:42 *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights
18:42 schestowitz-TR; "Russia Invades Ukraine"
18:42 bnchs; people sweat just trying to click the button
18:43 schestowitz-TR; and then some cretin hits Publish
18:45 bnchs; actually what the dropout think when they try to escape
18:45 bnchs; is they try to injure themselves
18:46 schestowitz; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-04/statement-on-publishing-error
18:46 TR Bot; - Are you a robot?
18:46 schestowitz; https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/bloomberg-apologises-for-accidentally-reporting-russia-invades-ukraine-kremlin-reacts-articleshow.html
18:46 TR Bot; Bloomberg apologises for accidentally reporting 'Russia invades Ukraine'; Kremlin reacts
18:46 schestowitz; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bloomberg-apologized-accidentally-publishing-story-120805766.html
18:46 TR Bot; Bloomberg has apologized for accidentally publishing a story headlined 'Russia Invades Ukraine'
18:46 schestowitz; fake news
18:46 schestowitz; no matter the cause
18:46 schestowitz; and now CBS
18:47 schestowitz; trying to get a reaction?
18:47 schestowitz; at CBS?
18:47 *CrystalMath (~coderain@gir99mg8ptg5w.irc) has joined #techrights
18:47 schestowitz-TR; stay tuned for the "bill gates says..." piece
18:47 schestowitz-TR; gates is a ukraine expert
18:47 bnchs; https://www.tajnid.ma/
18:48 TR Bot;
18:48 bnchs; "This space allows you to fill out the statistics form and make sure you are invited to perform military service as well as download the exemption application form. "
18:48 bnchs; you are invited
18:48 bnchs; not drafted but INVITED
18:48 schestowitz-TR; uncle sam
18:48 schestowitz-TR; to people in the african coat
18:48 schestowitz-TR; you are invited to a hot meal
18:48 schestowitz-TR; hop onboarrd the ship
18:49 schestowitz-TR; you are invited to fasten your chain
18:50 TR News; On the #Internet , the share of the #WorldWideWeb relative to other protocols is waning (partly due to mobile platforms) and one must adapt or perish Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/20/future-of-the-web/ #Techrights #WWW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/20/future-of-the-web/
18:50 TR Bot; There Was Never Web 2.0, So There Cannot be Web 3 and the Future of the Web Doesnt Look Good | Techrights
18:50 bnchs; don't worry it's just an invitation that you can't refuse
18:50 schestowitz-TR; be there or be squared
18:50 schestowitz-TR; by a tank
18:51 TR News; #GNOME #Portfolio 0.9.13 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161669 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
18:51 TR Bot; Portfolio 0.9.13 | Tux Machines
18:52 bnchs; clicking on the button says "The period of statistics on military service ended on Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 12 pm."
18:52 bnchs; sad
18:55 bnchs; they'll probably do it next year
18:56 bnchs; but i remember seeing a bunch of military ads before it ended
18:56 bnchs; s/ads/propaganda/
18:57 *tdemin (~tdemin@q4ekxw9w3cfd2.irc) has joined #techrights
18:57 schestowitz-TR; who does the country fight?
18:58 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: larabel wrote to me but did not dispute what I had suspected
18:58 schestowitz-TR; he brought up a bunch of unrelated stuff
18:58 schestowitz; https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-SDSi-Platform-x86-Queued
18:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-SDSi-Platform-x86-Queued
18:58 TR Bot; Software Defined Silicon Driver Queued Up Ahead Of Linux 5.18 - Phoronix
18:58 schestowitz; now he trawls git repos
18:59 schestowitz; all day long today
18:59 schestowitz; as even the mailing lists lack material
18:59 schestowitz-TR; it's basically converting gitlog into a little prose
18:59 psydroid2; michael sweeney
19:00 bnchs; i really don't know what the fuck are they fighting
19:00 bnchs; they don't say shit
19:00 psydroid2; in collaboration with his spiritual brother tim sweeney
19:00 psydroid2; bringing up unrelated stuff is a form of deflection from the matter at hand
19:01 psydroid2; phoronix died for me
19:01 psydroid2; cnx-software isn't quite there but getting there
19:02 psydroid2; maybe he can get hired by LF?
19:02 psydroid2; or maybe LF is already paying him?
19:03 schestowitz-TR; who?
19:03 schestowitz-TR; m sweeney?
19:03 psydroid2; yes
19:03 schestowitz-TR; they don't get along too well irc. they don't even inovte him to events
19:03 schestowitz-TR; LF is very suit-like
19:03 psydroid2; so what does he actually think he is doing?
19:03 schestowitz-TR; they need people who do NOT use Linux
19:04 schestowitz-TR; as Linux users MIGHT oust the managment one day
19:04 schestowitz-TR; they cannot afford that risk
19:04 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161670 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:04 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:04 psydroid2; he's alienating everyone who used to read his site
19:04 TR News; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Krita, Steam, and Going Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161671 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:04 TR Bot; Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: Krita, Steam, and Going Linux | Tux Machines
19:04 schestowitz-TR; he annoyed rianne ages ago
19:04 schestowitz-TR; I gave him years of grave period
19:04 schestowitz-TR; same with spamnil and sjvn
19:05 schestowitz-TR; rianne hated their guts years ago
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19:05 schestowitz-TR; and I was being patient
19:05 schestowitz-TR; trying to show them things
19:05 schestowitz-TR; like stefano now... at OSI
19:05 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/11/24/microsoft-loves-linux-meme/
19:05 TR Bot; [Meme] Jimmy Zemlin Loves Microsoft | Techrights
19:06 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/lf-cannot-use-linux/
19:06 TR Bot; [Meme] Linux Foundation Cant Use Linux | Techrights
19:06 schestowitz; psydroid2: LF in 5 second clip: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/zemlin-go-away.gif
19:07 psydroid2; I think she has an intuition about people and not that much patience
19:08 TR News; #Winamp Reborn with the Adafruit PyPortal https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/winamp-reborn-with-the-adafruit-pyportal/ they could, instead, use #freesw like #xmms or #audacious from Ariadne
19:08 TR Bot; Reborn With The Adafruit PyPortal | Hackaday
19:08 psydroid2; I would consider it a gift well worth having
19:08 schestowitz-TR; yes
19:09 schestowitz-TR; but I don't want to squeeze the trigger until I am sure
19:09 Ariadne; schestowitz: that project is not actually using winamp, it is just supporting winamp skins (like audacious does)
19:09 schestowitz-TR; with spamnil I wasted years
19:09 schestowitz-TR; showed him evil things Microsoft was doing
19:09 schestowitz-TR; and Microsoft was sending people to brainwash him and others
19:09 schestowitz-TR; Ariadne: yeah
19:09 schestowitz-TR; but they could plug in a mention for your project
19:09 Ariadne; ironically, microsoft is the first to step up to the plate and provide alpine with infrastructure after i shamed all of them for making billions on alpine and not giving us a single server
19:09 Ariadne; which surprised me
19:10 Ariadne; i mean, i'm not surprised my critique fell on deaf ears at AWS
19:10 schestowitz-TR; it';s not a gift
19:10 Ariadne; no, it's not
19:10 schestowitz-TR; they want something in return
19:10 schestowitz-TR; like wsl
19:10 Ariadne; in this case, they want local repos for their customers
19:10 schestowitz-TR; aws is not opposite of microsoft
19:10 schestowitz-TR; they're like apple and microsoft
19:10 Ariadne; yes
19:11 schestowitz-TR; microsoft azure is failing
19:11 schestowitz-TR; cancellations
19:11 schestowitz-TR; and layoffs
19:11 schestowitz-TR; even reports of DCs shutting down
19:11 schestowitz-TR; they won't admit it
19:11 schestowitz-TR; as shareholders would flee
19:11 schestowitz-TR; so they bargain from a position of weakness
19:11 schestowitz-TR; aws can be arrogant
19:11 schestowitz-TR; and ignore elastic etc.
19:12 Ariadne; i mean, my point is
19:13 Ariadne; alpine is between 40% and 60% of all container workloads running on these clouds
19:13 Ariadne; using *their* data
19:13 Ariadne; they could give us some servers to support *their* customers
19:13 TR News; #Programming things that have gotten easier https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/02/20/things-that-used-to-be-hard-and-are-now-easy/ #jvns
19:13 Alternative link; Cloudflare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/02/20/things-that-used-to-be-hard-and-are-now-easy/
19:13 TR Bot; Programming things that have gotten easier
19:13 psydroid2; they want to keep all revenue to themselves and want nothing to go to alpine?
19:13 Ariadne; yes
19:13 schestowitz-TR; for "Sahreholders"
19:13 schestowitz-TR; the religion of money
19:14 Ariadne; psydroid2: i dont care about $$$ i care about servers
19:14 schestowitz-TR; ride a rocket to space
19:14 psydroid2; Ariadne, the servers are $$$ that they'd rather keep
19:14 Ariadne; yes
19:15 Ariadne; meanwhile the alpine infrastructure is buckling under the load, which is bad for their customers
19:15 Ariadne; which is bad for their $$$
19:15 TR News; DSE digital transformation recap https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/dse-digital-transformation-recap #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
19:15 TR Bot; DSE digital transformation recap
19:16 psydroid2; if alpine went under they'd gladly pick up the pieces and bring them in-house
19:16 Ariadne; which will cost them even more money
19:17 Ariadne; and, the main reason alpine is popular is because it's not corporate
19:22 Ariadne; psydroid2: i think alpine is not at any risk of "going under," either
19:23 psydroid2; Ariadne, I didn't want to imply that, but I see these companies as hostile when they make billions off of the hard work of alpine and can't even sponsor some build infrastructure
19:23 Ariadne; i agree
19:23 Ariadne; which is why i shamed them
19:23 schestowitz-TR; it's called github
19:24 schestowitz-TR; and not only the slavewner uses it
19:24 schestowitz-TR; *owner
19:24 schestowitz-TR; gulag and ibm do too
19:24 schestowitz-TR; go upload code for us
19:24 schestowitz-TR; please uses non-reciprocal licence
19:24 schestowitz-TR; so we need not give anyuthing in return
19:25 Ariadne; in most cases
19:25 Ariadne; i don't actually want to receive code back anymore
19:25 Ariadne; because the code i receive back is usually unusable
19:25 schestowitz-TR; people care about their own projects
19:25 schestowitz-TR; others hack on those
19:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's why torvalds rejects pr from microsoft
19:26 schestowitz-TR; (viat github)
19:26 Ariadne; "we solved bug blahblah"
19:26 Ariadne; [patch is entirely useless because it only solves it in one specific configuration]
19:26 schestowitz-TR; it's not their project
19:26 Ariadne; i have considered making an april fools license
19:26 schestowitz-TR; it's a project they use
19:27 Ariadne; wherein you're forbidden to send code back
19:27 Ariadne; :D
19:27 schestowitz-TR; text can be the same
19:27 schestowitz-TR; when someone offers an improvement
19:27 schestowitz-TR; and it actually changes the message
19:27 schestowitz-TR; and is someone else's
19:28 schestowitz-TR; i hated this when doing my thesis
19:28 schestowitz-TR; and you must concede a lot of the time because "supervisor is always right"
19:28 schestowitz-TR; and you are always "just a student"
19:28 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22021623
19:28 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/5adiy0y3igh81.jpg created on 2022-02-16 08:23:11.585447
19:29 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: lol
19:30 TR News; #IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161672 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:30 TR Bot; IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 164 is available for testing | Tux Machines
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19:33 TR News; All About Dichroic Optical Filters | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/all-about-dichroic-optical-filters/ #hackaday
19:33 TR Bot; About Dichroic Optical Filters | Hackaday
19:34 TR News; "There is a new application available for Sparkers: Mailspring" https://sparkylinux.org/mailspring/ only the GUI is #freesw
19:34 TR Bot; Mailspring SparkyLinux
19:38 TR News; cc// @Dr. Roy Schestowitz ()
19:41 schestowitz; #PeaZip 8.5.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161673 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachine
19:41 TR Bot; PeaZip 8.5.0 | Tux Machines
19:43 psydroid2; the thing I'm wondering about is whether the clown can ever be put back into the circus from where it escaped
19:46 TR News; Much appreciated. The "TAKEDOWN NOTICE" in #joindiapora seems to have been removed some time in the past 30 minutes. @glynmoody
19:47 TR News; Computers and paper: BFFs forever [prologue] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161674 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:47 TR Bot; Computers and paper: BFFs forever [prologue] | Tux Machines
19:58 MinceR; https://i.imgur.com/qSKAFMt.jpg
19:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/qSKAFMt.jpg
20:00 XRevan86; MinceR: And Superman was driven over by an ber.
20:00 MinceR; lol
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20:18 XRevan86; https://smbc-comics.com/comic/fan
20:18 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fan
20:22 XRevan86; SomeH4x0r: Another possibility is that this is escalation for the sake of escalation to get something out of this situation before full capitulation (declaration of L/DPR's "independence").
20:23 XRevan86; (capitulation of any ambition on Ukraine by Russia)
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20:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz, You can rent access to a "cloud Windows PC" though.
20:32 DaemonFC; Big market for that, right?
20:44 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/19/180-days-in-jail-for-man-convicted-in-drunk-driving-hit-and-run-crash-that-killed-woman-near-marengo/
20:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/02/19/180-days-in-jail-for-man-convicted-in-drunk-driving-hit-and-run-crash-that-killed-woman-near-marengo/
20:44 TR Bot; 180 days in jail for man convicted in drunk driving hit-and-run crash that killed woman near Marengo
20:44 DaemonFC; 180 days for murdering a woman and then fleeing the scene in the Happiest State in Bestest Country.
20:51 DaemonFC; MinceR, Practice: "Hello!? I have just murdered a man!" Guy yelling out the window: "Hey, shut up down there!". Practice: "I said I have murdered a man and I would like to confess!" *checks his watch....still no police*
20:51 DaemonFC; Last Action Hero was underrated a bit.
20:53 MinceR; :)
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20:58 psydroid2; I'm more and more inclined to think that what we are seeing in terms of technology and society is that their downfall is just a symptom of the total collapse of civilisation
20:58 psydroid2; the question is: where do we go from where we are now?
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21:07 DaemonFC; Well, the IRS approved my tax refund. Yay.
21:07 DaemonFC; Money money money money! Money.....
21:08 DaemonFC; They were warning people that there could be severe delays.
21:08 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/18/morning-funny-pic-dump-2-18-22/
21:08 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/02/18/morning-funny-pic-dump-2-18-22/
21:08 TR Bot; Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
21:09 DaemonFC; I was reading how they pull people up for an audit. Apparently, no humans are ever involved. Computer matching software sees if your income and deductions and credits sound right and it assigns each return a "risk score" from 000 to 999.
21:10 DaemonFC; The closer to 999 it gets, the more risky the return, and the more likely the computer is to assign it for an audit. People who have been audited before are automatically "riskier" so they start with a "penalty" assigned to their SSN or ITIN in future years and are more likely to be audited again because of this.
21:11 DaemonFC; What makes a return "riskier" is if it claims widely abused credits, credits that are obviously not allowed given what's on the rest of the return, "nice round numbers", and income that significantly deviates from what the IRS already had on file.
21:11 DaemonFC; There's no actual need to file a return, Congress just prevents the IRS from sending you one that's already completed, for free, for your review, to prop up a tax return software industry.
21:11 DaemonFC; Where you have to calculate what the IRS already knows, and pay a tax firm to submit it.
21:11 DaemonFC; And possibly get something wrong.
21:12 DaemonFC; Republicans were the strongest opposition. They claimed that they were concerned that the IRS wouldn't have your best interests in mind when preparing a tax return and might not give you all of the credits you deserve.
21:12 DaemonFC; But that's ridiculous. You could always amend it and send it back and tell them why, and it would be no more of a hassle than filing a return is today.
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21:17 bnchs; i can't afford a domain or server
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21:22 psydroid2; for what?
21:27 psydroid2; I wonder where the cheapest domains and servers are
21:28 psydroid2; depending on the kinds you need
21:39 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22021471
21:39 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/g40mdtzkehh81.jpg created on 2022-02-14 22:27:28.577430
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22:08 bnchs__; psydroid2: for my website
22:12 psydroid2; bnchs__, how much does it cost over there?
22:13 bnchs__; about 200 DH a month
22:13 bnchs__; but i prefer not hosting here
22:14 psydroid2; I know
22:14 psydroid2; I just wanted to know how it would compare to hosting elsewhere
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22:19 psydroid2; I know Hetzner here in Europe
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22:24 TR News; #zdnet could link to the original instead of #zdnet https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/02/20/1915222/linux-developers-patch-bugs-faster-than-microsoft-apple-and-google-study-shows
22:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/02/20/1915222/linux-developers-patch-bugs-faster-than-microsoft-apple-and-google-study-shows
22:24 TR Bot; Linux Developers Patch Bugs Faster Than Microsoft, Apple, and Google, Study Shows - Slashdot
22:24 TR News; #GTG 0.6 release candidate Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161675 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:24 TR Bot; GTG 0.6 release candidate | Tux Machines
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22:33 TR News; OwnCloud with Raspberry PI: self host your private cloud https://peppe8o.com/owncloud-with-raspberry-pi-self-host-your-private-cloud/ #peppe8o | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
22:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/owncloud-with-raspberry-pi-self-host-your-private-cloud/
22:33 TR Bot; OwnCloud with Raspberry PI: self host your private cloud
22:33 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
22:34 TR News; Why and #HowTo start with the system #Ruby modular packages https://nts.strzibny.name/ruby-modular-packages/ #nts #programming
22:34 TR Bot; Why and how to start with the system Ruby modular packages
22:37 TR News; "Gian Demarmels and Lucien Heuzeveldt have finished their Bachelor's thesis which adds a second blind signature scheme to #GNUTaler ." https://taler.net/en/news/2022-02.html
22:37 TR Bot; GNU Taler
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22:43 bnchs__; why do dating apps have geolocation
22:43 schestowitz-TR; well, dug
22:43 schestowitz-TR; dug
22:43 schestowitz-TR; they are not dating apps
22:43 schestowitz-TR; they are beacons
22:44 schestowitz-TR; that sometimes find weirdoes for you... to get laid and get STD
22:44 bnchs__; yes what about stuff like gay and bi dating
22:44 bnchs__; and lesbian dating
22:44 bnchs__; that have these geolocation shit
22:44 schestowitz-TR; it's not about that
22:45 schestowitz-TR; there are apps [sic] for everyone
22:45 schestowitz-TR; and the key point is, it collects data
22:45 bnchs__; that the police use to track you down
22:45 schestowitz-TR; they do sting operations too
22:46 schestowitz-TR; it's for every dumb ass with "smart" "phone"
22:46 bnchs__; yes
22:46 bnchs__; every app in the play store has ads or tracking
22:47 schestowitz-TR; it's a prominent thing, a business moidel
22:47 schestowitz-TR; they seem to think it's an anathema to write some software that does NOT collect your data
22:47 bnchs__; even basic shit like a hex editor
22:48 bnchs__; has ads and analytics
22:48 schestowitz-TR; not to mention the OS
22:48 schestowitz-TR; and ISP
22:51 bnchs__; the only good apps are free software
22:51 bnchs__; they don't have obnoxious ads or shitty tracking
22:51 bnchs__; that even track your GPS location
22:51 schestowitz-TR; "voice" "prints"
22:51 schestowitz-TR; we eavesdrop
22:51 schestowitz-TR; "only a little"
22:51 schestowitz-TR; "for now"
22:52 schestowitz-TR; "maybe more later"
22:52 schestowitz-TR; "without your consent"
22:52 bnchs__; this is the problem
22:52 schestowitz-TR; "hey, you did press OK on "microphone something" when you installed this, right|?"
22:52 bnchs__; there's games that NEED to have GPS location
22:52 schestowitz-TR; "to improve your experience"
22:53 TR News; #Linux 5.17-rc5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161676 #TuxMachines
22:53 TR Bot; Linux 5.17-rc5 | Tux Machines
22:54 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161677 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:54 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:55 bnchs__; mobile games are straight up gambling
22:55 TR News; "Every time I mention Asahi Linux someone complains about it asks what even is the point of #Asahi Linux why would anyone ever want to run #Linux on a #M1 Silicon Mac, well why not." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uOLrvR7jm2I
22:55 TR Bot; What's The Point Of Asahi Linux: Linux On A Mac - Invidious
22:55 bnchs__; "uh oh looks like you don't have enough [GENERIC VIRTUAL CURRENCY], looks like you gonna pay real money for [GENERIC VIRTUAL CURRENCY]"
22:56 bnchs__; they also just split up the currency into 2
22:56 bnchs__; one that's common, and the other is pretty rare
22:56 bnchs__; and most of the items are gonna rely on the rare currency
22:56 bnchs__; how do you get it? with real money of course
22:57 bnchs__; basically the pay2win business model
22:58 TR News; #ReverseEngineering A 900 MHz RC Transmitter And Receiver | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/20/reverse-engineering-a-900-mhz-rc-transmitter-and-receiver/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/20/#latest
22:58 TR Bot; Engineering A 900 MHz RC Transmitter And Receiver | Hackaday
22:58 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
23:00 TR News; " #CopperSpice is a collection of libraries a toolkit, if you will for developing cross-platform applications in C++. That should sound familiar to #KDE people, and it is an LGPL v2.1 fork of #Qt from around 2013" https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2022/02/20/copperspice.html
23:00 TR Bot; Packaging CopperSpice | [bobulate]
23:01 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22021462
23:01 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8mo5umlzahh81.jpg created on 2022-02-14 18:20:59.997053
23:01 TR News; " #Wazuh is able to detect vulnerabilities in the applications installed in agents using the Vulnerability Detector module. This software audit is performed through the integration of vulnerability feeds indexed by Canonical, Debian, Red Hat, and the National Vulnerability Database." https://unixcop.com/wazuh-vulnerability-detection/
23:01 TR Bot; Wazuh Vulnerability detection - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
23:02 bnchs__; there's entire games about buying lootboxes that may or may not contain the character you want
23:02 bnchs__; because you can't straight up buy it
23:02 bnchs__; like gacha games
23:03 schestowitz-TR; games nowadays mostly suck
23:03 schestowitz-TR; mostly
23:03 schestowitz-TR; too much focus on hardware
23:03 schestowitz-TR; not gameplay
23:03 schestowitz-TR; and fun
23:03 schestowitz-TR; realism
23:03 schestowitz-TR; and not accessibility
23:03 bnchs__; they focus too much on eyecandy
23:03 bnchs__; pixar-like graphics
23:04 schestowitz-TR; except
23:04 schestowitz-TR; pixar does it 'off-line'
23:04 schestowitz-TR; ray-tracing and stuff with trillions of cycles per frame
23:04 schestowitz-TR; a game cannot do this
23:04 bnchs__; true
23:04 bnchs__; pixar has entire renderfarms
23:04 schestowitz-TR; they fake it
23:04 schestowitz-TR; like doing psrites with textures
23:05 schestowitz-TR; those textures barely change as you move around
23:05 schestowitz-TR; *sprites
23:05 bnchs__; developers focus way too much on graphics, that they can't make a good story
23:06 MinceR; story is not sufficient for a good game
23:06 MinceR; nor is it required
23:06 bnchs__; i play games for the plot and story
23:07 MinceR; you'll love movies then :><
23:07 MinceR; s/.$//
23:08 bnchs__; games can be like movies
23:08 bnchs__; linear games like half-life
23:09 MinceR; i'm not really impressed with half-life 1
23:09 bnchs__; yes
23:11 bnchs__; i played hl1, hl2, hl2ep1, hl2ep2
23:11 bnchs__; just to see where the story's going to go
23:12 schestowitz-TR; quests used to be like that
23:12 schestowitz-TR; they built a fantasy world of some kind
23:12 schestowitz-TR; kings, space, police, even sex (LSL)
23:12 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> that sometimes find weirdoes for you... to get laid and get STD
23:13 DaemonFC; Done it before.
23:13 schestowitz-TR; and then you play to unlock new scenes and scenarios
23:13 DaemonFC; I'm not really a people person.
23:13 DaemonFC; But I got checked out routinely and before I got married.
23:13 schestowitz-TR; monkey island did not look too good, but the story was decent
23:13 schestowitz-TR; tentacle2
23:13 DaemonFC; So I know I don't have anything.
23:13 DaemonFC; Of course, the "They can show up with a gun or a knife." threat is bigger than the STD threat with those apps.
23:14 DaemonFC; We know how to avoid STDs. Vaccines, condoms, PrEP. If you're not going to be monogamous, at least be smart.
23:14 schestowitz-TR; Is that what they call their.. -> "They can show up with a gun or a knife."
23:15 bnchs__; schestowitz-TR: what's LSL
23:15 DaemonFC; There have been gay people lured into some Silence of the Lambs shit with Grindr.
23:15 DaemonFC; REad about grindr hate crimes.
23:15 schestowitz-TR; leisure suit larry
23:15 DaemonFC; Do a web search.
23:15 schestowitz-TR; how old are you?
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23:16 schestowitz-TR; hi, techrights_guest|4
23:16 bnchs__; i actually never heard of this game
23:16 bnchs__; i'm 22
23:16 schestowitz-TR; I think they had like 6 parts of sequels
23:16 schestowitz-TR; *or
23:16 schestowitz-TR; it was sort of child-approved
23:17 schestowitz-TR; but challenged people to play the game
23:17 schestowitz-TR; sierra
23:17 schestowitz-TR; not sure you know sierra
23:17 DaemonFC; People freak out over games and children.
23:18 schestowitz-TR; because of violence?
23:18 schestowitz-TR; addiction?
23:18 DaemonFC; And Crimethink.
23:18 schestowitz-TR; costs?
23:18 DaemonFC; Yeah, you know, they don't want people thinking too much and in ways that are not "approved" of.
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23:19 schestowitz-TR; I actually wonder if LSL would be received today like in the 1990s
23:19 schestowitz-TR; obviously young people played the game
23:19 schestowitz-TR; it didn't show any nipples or anything and was just animated
23:19 schestowitz-TR; but LSL is "womaniser"
23:20 schestowitz-TR; so some angry people who say it's offensive to women or something
23:20 schestowitz-TR; there was also iceman
23:20 schestowitz-TR; in hawaii iirc
23:20 schestowitz-TR; all those romance games
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23:21 techrights_guest|471; interesting website :)
23:21 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codename:_ICEMAN
23:21 TR Bot; Codename: ICEMAN - Wikipedia
23:21 schestowitz; 1989
23:21 schestowitz; techrights_guest|471: hello
23:21 schestowitz; I found iceman hard
23:21 kingoffrance; i never played any of them really, but i assume LSL was somewhat spoofing of maniac mansion, "hugo" type games
23:21 kingoffrance; like its a "mystery" ...of how to get laid lol
23:22 bnchs__; well i did play postal 2
23:22 bnchs__; i found that game a bit weird
23:23 kingoffrance; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo's_House_of_Horrors "shareware for greater value" for great justice
23:23 TR Bot; Hugo's House of Horrors - Wikipedia
23:24 schestowitz-TR; I once made a very long list of games I had played and still remembered
23:24 schestowitz-TR; I was bored at some lecture
23:24 schestowitz-TR; PDFd the thing..
23:25 psydroid8; it looks like the era of great games is already over
23:25 schestowitz-TR; ages ago
23:26 schestowitz-TR; there used to be other challenged lie realise in 256 colours
23:26 schestowitz-TR; 2^3*3
23:26 schestowitz-TR; and compacting things to fit floppy disks
23:26 schestowitz-TR; bloated gmae =- more floppies
23:27 schestowitz-TR; more risk and higher cost
23:27 schestowitz-TR; no "app" store
23:27 schestowitz-TR; no pacthes or updates
23:27 schestowitz-TR; so you REALLY need to test before mastering and mass production/distribution
23:28 kingoffrance; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstatica i remember this, mostly had a bunch of shareware things. ellipsoid graphics -- fast and looked better. this was 1994 slightly before 3d cards.
23:28 TR Bot; Ecstatica - Wikipedia
23:28 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161678 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:28 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
23:28 kingoffrance; The main advantage is the organic-looking characters. Triangles tend to make hard, robotic-looking figures, whereas ellipsoids can be used to create more rounded, human alternatives. Ellipsoids can also be more efficient because you can make a much better looking character out of fewer shapes
23:29 kingoffrance; consider playstation 1 still had blocky polygons...
23:30 kingoffrance; hardware constraints can sometimes help "looks" too
23:30 MinceR; ps1 was plagued more by inaccurate integer-only 3D math and lack of perspective correction
23:30 schestowitz-TR; screen resoluton was not fine yet
23:30 bnchs__; and also that affine texturing
23:30 schestowitz-TR; and now they make energy-sucking hardware to render stuff you cannot see anyway
23:30 schestowitz-TR; esp. in a living room
23:31 bnchs__; iirc developers had workarounds about the lack of perspective correction
23:33 MinceR; yeah, like running the game on a PC instead :>
23:34 TR News; #cat https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_of_a_kitten.jpg
23:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Photo_of_a_kitten.jpg
23:34 TR Bot; File:Photo of a kitten.jpg - Wikimedia Commons
23:34 SomeH4x0r; Wikimedia turns shit too?
23:34 SomeH4x0r; as in Clownflare
23:34 bnchs__; i remember playing postal 2 when it was ported to GNU/Linux
23:35 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22021436
23:35 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bn85l4836lh81.jpg created on 2022-02-14 11:54:25.672901
23:36 TR News; Wrong switch https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_4ba4d04699b3867fa7e8.jpg
23:36 SomeH4x0r; fuck MediaWiki regardless, at least for their evil blockid cookie
23:36 bnchs__; mediawiki is the best wiki program, because it's one of the only wikis you can run without javascript
23:37 SomeH4x0r; I think there should be less heavy ones
23:38 TR News; #joindiaporta 5 years ago https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_bf365ca344e7fee98e4e.jpg
23:38 bnchs__; they made an effort not to "let themselves go" and make their website bloated with shit
23:39 bnchs__; SomeH4x0r: what are the alternatives
23:40 TR News; #cat #balloon https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYPsVijgsPy63L2/giphy.gif
23:40 Alternative link; Cloudflare: giphy.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://media.giphy.com/media/l0MYPsVijgsPy63L2/giphy.gif
23:40 SomeH4x0r; I don't think it is difficult to write a thing which just stores stuff in a database and lets strangers do changes while recording them
23:41 bnchs__; yes
23:41 bnchs__; you could use a blockchain (not crypto meme)
23:41 bnchs__; since it's just a bunch of patch files
23:43 SomeH4x0r; yes, as long as it doesn't cause issues like requiring a "powerful" CPU
23:44 bnchs__; not that crypto meme blockchain, it's a bunch of patch files with SHA512 checksum
23:45 bnchs__; any patch deletion has to signed by an admin or anyone with his PGP private key
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23:52 XRevan86; MinceR: That boy's brain is free of chemical reactions.
23:53 schestowitz-TR; free radicalsa
23:54 bnchs___; it didn't say "grown adults"
23:55 MinceR; XRevan86: lol
23:55 bnchs___; so it would have been a room full of babies
23:56 bnchs___; "In a room of 1000 people, you would be smarter than 91 of them"
23:56 bnchs___; you would be smarter than only 91 people in the room
23:57 XRevan86; These tests are not actually scientific, but it's not really about the test or the boy :)
23:57 XRevan86; bnchs___: So ye got the point :)
23:57 bnchs___; the joke is that the mom thought it was a percentage
23:58 XRevan86; The mum failed the intelligence test, yes.
23:58 XRevan86; On several levels.
23:59 bnchs___; she would have been off the bell curve if she was the one doing the IQ test
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