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00:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
00:22 TR News; (NEW): SpamAssassin 4.0 Anti-Spam Platform Gets Full Unicode Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/18/SpamAssassin_4_0_Anti_Spam_Platform_Gets_Full_Unicode_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/18/SpamAssassin_4_0_Anti_Spam_Platform_Gets_Full_Unicode_Support.gmi
00:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines SpamAssassin 4.0 Anti-Spam Platform Gets Full Unicode Support
00:22 TR News; (NEW): PeaZip 9.0 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/18/PeaZip_9_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/18/PeaZip_9_0.gmi
00:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines PeaZip 9.0
00:22 TR News; (NEW): postmarketOS 22.12 Released with Support for Fairphone 4 and Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/18/postmarketOS_22_12_Released_with_Support_for_Fairphone_4_and_Ga.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/18/postmarketOS_22_12_Released_with_Support_for_Fairphone_4_and_Ga.gmi
00:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines postmarketOS 22.12 Released with Support for Fairphone 4 and Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
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00:28 schestowitz[TR]; <immibis> https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy
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00:28 schestowitz[TR]; FREE SPEECH ABSOLUTISM :-)
00:29 TR News; Overclocked gemini://thrig.me/blog/2022/12/18/overclocked.gmi
00:30 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D447.jpg
00:30 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D784.jpg
00:30 MinceR; (cat) https://apina.biz/184010.png?mode=sfw
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00:30 TR News; Tech - AI - Xue Tao and Mark Twain gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~shufei/phlog/20221218-Tech-AI-Lit-TaoAndTwain.gmi
00:31 TR News; Tools: redo (part 2) Automatic Recording of Dependencies on Header Files gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20221218-redo-2.gmi
00:32 TR News; Tools: redo (part 1) Hello, world! gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20221218-redo-1.gmi
00:32 TR News; "Since October 2020 I'm fiddling with "redo", a build tool imagined by Daniel Bernstein. Writing about it will make me understand it better. And along the way, maybe others find it interesting, so here we go. This series will grow." gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20221218-redo-0.gmi
00:34 TR News; "In which I discuss the history of close_notify in the Gemini commuity and assuade some fears." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2022-12-18.gmi
00:34 TR News; PostmarketOS on the Oneplus 6 gemini://sdf.org/ralfwause/gemini/postmarketos.gmi
00:35 TR News; Fuckup of the month -- "kaction.cc" domain expired gemini://tilde.pink/~kaction/log/2022-12-18.1.gmi
00:36 TR News; "I was absent for several days in the small net. I had busy weeks with many time-consuming home and work activities" gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-12-18-Purposeful-effor.gmi
00:36 TR News; "The other day, I came across an interesting little math puzzle game called Everest." gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/gemlog/everest.gmi
00:38 TR News; "Now that rust has finally been merged into Linux what effect is it actually going to have on your day to day use, well today I answer that as well as talk about the general state of the project" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GgbgRIv1bw4
00:39 TR Bot; Rust Merged Into Linux 6.1: How Will It Affect You - Invidious
00:39 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
00:39 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:39 DaemonFC; The idea that you can make computing more secure, but only by making the computer useless is kind of an Apple-ism that spread to Microsoft.
00:39 DaemonFC; And one of the reasons they like this snake oil so much is because then they can lock the device, not compete with anyone else, and promote Hollywood DRM.
00:39 DaemonFC; As far as security is concerned, it's like saying "We're going to make it almost impossible to have a really nasty car accident, by limiting everyone's cars to 20 MPH.".
00:39 DaemonFC; This is the iPhone model.
00:39 TR News; "This article is written in Spanish. On it, ask the readers for events or channels where I can apply or participate in to promote the Eclipse Foundation in Spain and in Spanish during 2023. It ends with some interesting links about The Eclipse Foundation." https://toscalix.com/2022/12/18/donde-debo-promover-la-actividad-de-eclipse-foundation/
00:39 TR Bot; debo promover la actividad de Eclipse Foundation? toscalix
00:41 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
00:41 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:41 DaemonFC; And if the government installed a speed limiter that capped all the cars at 20 miles an hour so that almost nobody died in the cars at the cost of never being able to make it anywhere, people would be burning down the government with torches and pitchforks.
00:41 DaemonFC; But this is, frankly, exactly what's happened with Apple and iPhones and nobody seems to care.
00:41 DaemonFC; If this is the future of computing, "I'll be gone like Enron." in the words of Stephen King.
00:43 TR News; Linux-libre's freed-ora is now history https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2022-12/msg00006.html ICBM is not compatible with freedom
00:43 TR Bot; Linux-libre's freed-ora is now history
00:44 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/16010450
00:44 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10308341_1129846287040194_98618731647576289_n.jpg?oh=17f474b0dca10367aa0ad9e714fdb432&oe=5711A71D&__gda__=1459532859_84f1f284ba6793e59b8fc6c575ab53cc created on 2016-01-04 09:41:07.583944
00:45 TR News; "I wanted to explore if I could bend my style around a bolder composition choice and stylised main shapes. Just to experiment how it could bring a modern more contemporary perfume to my style." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article948/point-of-view
00:45 TR Bot; Point of View - David Revoy
00:45 TR News; Perl fediverse network https://blogs.perl.org/users/ryan_voots/2022/12/perl-fediverse-network.html
00:45 TR Bot; fediverse network | Ryan Voots [blogs.perl.org]
00:46 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
00:46 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
00:46 DaemonFC; Richard Stallman had the same reaction to the concept of "sexist air conditioning".
00:46 DaemonFC; The idea that we have to turn the temperature up and make men uncomfortable instead of women.
00:46 DaemonFC; That's a nit, but it's the diseased thinking that has overtaken feminism, and affirmative action in general.
00:46 DaemonFC; That you have to make men, white people, etc. suffer so that we can have "equality" when all you do is shift the suffering.
00:46 DaemonFC; It's also easier to just put on more clothes than it is for men to strip down.
00:46 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
00:46 DaemonFC; There's something to explode about on Elon's Shitter.
00:48 TR News; On the myth of data portability https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/03/on-the-myth-of-data-portability/
00:48 TR Bot; On the myth of data portability | Stop at Zona-M
00:49 TR News; nationalist movements in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries were largely centralizing while the nationalist movements of the twenty-first century were largely decentralist in characterbreakaway movements represented by Brexit, Taiwan, Scotland, Catalonia, and others (including wannabes like Trump) https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/03/digital-contributions-to-soft-secession-in-america/
00:49 TR Bot; Digital contributions to soft secession in America | Stop at Zona-M
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00:52 TR News; "Hope you had a great week! Here are all the updates from the open source world. We have a ton of hardware news like the DIY Pi Laptop and exciting releases from software projects including Firefox, PeerTube, and the Linux kernel." https://fossweekly.beehiiv.com/p/foss-weekly-28-risv-linux-computer-diy-pi-laptop-kernel-6-1-more
00:52 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #28 - $8 RISC-V Linux computer, DIY Pi Laptop, Kernel 6.1 & more | FOSS Weekly
00:53 TR News; "This has been a really busy week for everybody. Highlights: new releases of Krita, LibreCAD, Kdenlive, MuseScore, Ardour, Rosegarden, and more." https://librearts.org/2022/12/week-recap-18-dec-2022/
00:53 TR Bot; Libre Arts - Weekly recap 18 December 2022
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00:54 TR News; "Every year or so, I revisit the current best practices for Python packaging. This was my summary for 2021 heres the update for 2022." https://venthur.de/2022-12-18-python-packaging.html
00:54 TR Bot; The State of Python Packaging in 2022 | Bastian Venthur's Blog
00:55 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_howtos.gmi
00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
00:55 TR News; (NEW): Video: Rust Merged Into Linux 6.1, Aiven, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Video_Rust_Merged_Into_Linux_6_1_Aiven_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Video_Rust_Merged_Into_Linux_6_1_Aiven_and_More.gmi
00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Video: Rust Merged Into Linux 6.1, Aiven, and More
00:57 TR News; "However with the recent twitter drama going around I started setting up an activitypub based network to take the place of the twitter community in the advent that there was an exodus of Perl programmers from twitter." https://blogs.perl.org/users/ryan_voots/2022/12/perl-fediverse-network.html
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:02 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu Debates Removing Archive Manager from Default Install http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Ubuntu_Debates_Removing_Archive_Manager_from_Default_Install.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Ubuntu_Debates_Removing_Archive_Manager_from_Default_Install.gmi
01:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu Debates Removing Archive Manager from Default Install
01:06 TR News; (NEW): Siemens ports Sokol Linux to RISC-V http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Siemens_ports_Sokol_Linux_to_RISC_V.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Siemens_ports_Sokol_Linux_to_RISC_V.gmi
01:06 TR Bot; Tux Machines Siemens ports Sokol Linux to RISC-V
01:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I emailed RMS about his post "A world tailored to men.".
01:11 DaemonFC; "Just a comment on "A world tailored to men.".
01:11 DaemonFC; The notion on the Left in general, and of Feminists and "Reverse Racists" is that men, and especially white men, have had it too good for too long and that they deserve to be uncomfortable, socially rebuked, to suffer, and so on, so forth.
01:11 DaemonFC; So the nit about air conditioning is sort of an aside.
01:11 DaemonFC; If people want to know why people are angry enough that Trump came along consider things like this happening.
01:11 DaemonFC; Last year, two black men (with an extensive list of felonies, no insurance, and no driver's license on the driver) were in a Honda that ran a stop light, made an illegal left turn, and crashed into the car I had at the time.
01:11 DaemonFC; A 2003 Impala with a lot of rust and 300,000 miles. A real piece of crap.
01:11 DaemonFC; I called the cops after the driver asked me to just "let it go" because I didn't want them to run to the cops later and make up a false narrative about me trying to flee an accident or something.
01:11 DaemonFC; Cops arrive 30 minutes later. Both cops are, I'd say, Latino, probably Mexican lineage, 2nd or 3rd generation?
01:11 DaemonFC; They look at the other guys, they look at me. They let them go even though they caused the accident and have committed at least two misdemeanor offenses (the driver) of no insurance and no license and a felony (passenger was out of Wisconsin without the permission of his parole officer).
01:11 DaemonFC; They then turned around and stuck me, the white guy, with the citation for causing an accident. The police followed it up by falsifying their report to say I took responsibility for the accident via a confession I never made.
01:11 DaemonFC; The driver was threatening a lawsuit and said he'd show up at my trial on the bogus "offense" of running the light, which the cops tried to pin on me. I hired an attorney. The ticket was dismissed because the other two didn't show up for court.
01:11 DaemonFC; I feel, but can't prove, that I was the recipient of Reverse Racism. The cops and the people in the other car were both minorities. Here's a white guy. Get him!
01:11 DaemonFC; But you can't say that in court because it won't go well.
01:11 DaemonFC; Then you have things like this going on and people wonder why Trump starts to appeal to "grievances", some of which are legitimate.
01:11 DaemonFC; I'm not rich. I've never had a lot of money. I certainly don't feel like people have treated me well for being "white", ever. But here's all of these educated idiots saying I have "white privilege" even though I've been through the wringer, unjustifiably, more times than most of them have. So it must be true?"
01:13 TR News; (NEW): Linux Mint 21.1 Vera Is Now Available for Download http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Linux_Mint_21_1_Vera_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Linux_Mint_21_1_Vera_Is_Now_Available_for_Download.gmi
01:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Mint 21.1 Vera Is Now Available for Download
01:14 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: did he respond to you the last time?
01:14 DaemonFC; Yeah.
01:14 DaemonFC; He usually does.
01:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR],
01:15 DaemonFC; [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
01:15 DaemonFC; [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
01:15 DaemonFC; [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
01:15 DaemonFC; > Then in the first week of October 2022, we both got the "bivalent" Pfizer
01:15 DaemonFC; > Omicron booster.
01:15 DaemonFC; > Then on November 14th, he got COVID-19 and had to take an FMLA leave from
01:15 DaemonFC; > his job. He got very sick and I drove him to the clinic to get Paxlovid.
01:15 DaemonFC; I can only respond that "this does happen and no one denies it." No
01:15 DaemonFC; Covid-19 vaccine is 100% effective.
01:15 DaemonFC; That is why I take precautions against catching Covid-19. I wear an
01:15 DaemonFC; N95 mask whenever I am with other people indoors, except for my
01:15 DaemonFC; girlfriend and one household of other friends who take precautions.
01:15 DaemonFC; This means I don't eat with people indoors except those few.
01:15 DaemonFC; > Therefore, this level of vaccination didn't prevent us from getting it and
01:15 DaemonFC; > wasn't going to be enough to prevent us from getting very sick.
01:15 DaemonFC; According to the statistics, this happens much less frequently to vaccinated
01:15 DaemonFC; people than to nonvaccinated. But it does happen. Neither Pfeizer nor
01:15 DaemonFC; the US government ever said that vaccination makes you "safe."
01:15 DaemonFC; > The US government is hiding the extent of how much COVID-19 is actually out
01:15 DaemonFC; > there.
01:15 DaemonFC; That is true, in a way. The US government has more or less abandoned
01:15 DaemonFC; the system for testing large numbers of people and the system for
01:15 DaemonFC; keeping overall records. I think the best estimates nowadays come
01:15 DaemonFC; from measuring the amount of Covid-19 in sewers.
01:15 DaemonFC; But I would not say the government is the main culprit. This is what
01:15 DaemonFC; most people want: "Imagine there's no Covid; all of us are safe,
01:15 DaemonFC; uh-oh!" Their pressure was enormous and the government yielded to it.
01:15 DaemonFC; Not only the US government, but nearly all governments around the
01:16 DaemonFC; world.
01:16 DaemonFC; At least Spain still requires everyone in an airplane to wear a mask.
01:16 DaemonFC; What fools, the other governments that don't do this.
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01:18 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: seems very reasonable
01:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I replied.
01:19 DaemonFC; Just now.
01:19 DaemonFC; "I'd like to respond that President Biden was recently dismissive of face masks, declared the "pandemic was over", and even used the Fourth of July to "declare Independence from COVID".
01:19 DaemonFC; He also previously said that it was only a "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated".
01:19 DaemonFC; All of these statements are not just false, they're such lies that they ought to be criminal.
01:19 DaemonFC; So I would suggest otherwise when you stated that Biden (the US Government) has never said that vaccination makes you safe.
01:19 DaemonFC; For all intents and purposes, who speaks for the US Government if it isn't the President of the United States on the podium or talking to reporters?
01:19 DaemonFC; Even with all of these vaccines, people are getting COVID over and over and it's essentially a battering ram for your body. The first hit doesn't break down the door, but each one does more damage until it gives out.
01:19 DaemonFC; Thanks!
01:19 DaemonFC; -Ryan Farmer"
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: correct
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of jobs here are "hybrid"
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; but that does not solve the issue
01:21 schestowitz[TR]; that's lieke saying, let's tackle covid-19 by infecting you 50% of the time
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; we missed a chance, an opportunity, to tackle climate issues
01:22 DaemonFC; Yeah, you're partially mitigating the problem.
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; but the cartel of investors in "office estate" won
01:22 DaemonFC; So statistically you get COVID less.
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; and they herd peopole back into officer
01:22 DaemonFC; That's mostly to solve a "them" problem.
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; working close to ill people
01:22 DaemonFC; The employers don't have everyone sick at once or as much.
01:22 schestowitz[TR]; some of whom might not even know they carry the virus
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; so if people take indefinitely leave from work
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; or stop for the foreseeable future
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; for their own health and safety
01:23 schestowitz[TR]; who is to blame them?
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; 2021: get vaxxed with this experimental thing, or lose the job
01:24 schestowitz[TR]; 2022: get ill with this horrible thing, or lose the job
01:24 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], My back up sensor doesn't work now.
01:24 DaemonFC; It was tied into the factory radio. :P
01:24 DaemonFC; Guess we do this the old fashioned way. Look in the mirror and be careful.
01:24 DaemonFC; :)
01:25 DaemonFC; The radio was malfunctioning and didn't have Bluetooth. Illinois has a hands-free law. If a cop sees you with the phone in your hand, the insurance people can be the least of what happens.
01:25 DaemonFC; $1,000 ticket.
01:25 DaemonFC; They just hit the jackpot.
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; cara have gotten VERY expensive
01:25 schestowitz[TR]; WITHOUT improving
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; they are even expensive to repair
01:26 DaemonFC; Yes, they've regressed.
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; not just to purchase
01:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I got out of an expensive repair I think.
01:26 DaemonFC; I ran an engine flush through it when it screamed low oil pressure at me.
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; aside from MOT, insurance, cleaning, fuel etc. (a dozen other things!)
01:26 DaemonFC; Haven't seen the warning again since.
01:26 DaemonFC; $20 plus an oil change, meh.
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; the only thing to own more expensive than a car is a kid. I assume houses are different, they also last a lot longer idf built right.
01:27 DaemonFC; Beats paying a mechanic to drop the oil pan and tear out the oil pickup and clean it out manually and then redo the gasket because they were in there.
01:27 DaemonFC; If it works.
01:27 starstreak; linucks btw
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; a car can increase cost of living for a couple by 30% here
01:28 DaemonFC; It's basically a solvent that gets in there and goes everywhere the oil does and dissolves sludge, wax, crud, and dirt, and then you change the oil.
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; not even counting the buying price
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; if bought on installments, maybe 50%
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; similar to one kid
01:28 schestowitz[TR]; and both ruin the planet
01:28 DaemonFC; It's not as good as tearing the engine down and degreasing it.
01:28 DaemonFC; But it's a hell of a lot less expensive and it can solve some pressure problems.
01:29 DaemonFC; I've torn down an engine with 160,000 miles on it where the owner didn't change their oil on time as a habit.
01:29 DaemonFC; It wasn't pretty.
01:29 TR News; Guix 1.4.0 is out https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/
01:29 TR Bot; Page 1 Blog GNUGuix
01:30 DaemonFC; Gonad got an engine rebuild kit and we went to work on it out in a shop a friend of his owned.
01:30 DaemonFC; They let us use a bay and some tools.
01:30 DaemonFC; It worked fine again when we put it back together. Then his daughter traded it for a lemon.
01:30 DaemonFC; He kept doing stuff for her and she just fucked it all up again.
01:31 DaemonFC; He didn't even charge her to fix that engine, and back THEN a mechanic would want over $1,400 for that job!
01:31 DaemonFC; 20 years ago.
01:32 DaemonFC; Tore the whole thing down and machined it, new gaskets, degreasing all of the pieces....
01:32 DaemonFC; Good as new.
01:34 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
01:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
01:36 DaemonFC; One of the features my Casio has is a thermometer, but you have to take it off for 20 minutes before it gives an accurate temperature.
01:36 DaemonFC; Otherwise the heat from your body will throw it off.
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01:39 TR News; (NEW): Linux-libre's freed-ora is now history http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Linux_libre_s_freed_ora_is_now_history.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Linux_libre_s_freed_ora_is_now_history.gmi
01:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux-libre's freed-ora is now history
01:40 TR News; (NEW): New Release: Tor Browser 12.0.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/New_Release_Tor_Browser_12_0_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/New_Release_Tor_Browser_12_0_1.gmi
01:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines New Release: Tor Browser 12.0.1
01:40 TR News; (NEW): Windows Versus Security (and Against Ukraine) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Windows_Versus_Security_and_Against_Ukraine.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Windows_Versus_Security_and_Against_Ukraine.gmi
01:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Windows Versus Security (and Against Ukraine)
01:43 TR News; (NEW): Roundups of Free, Libre, and Open Source Software News (and Moving to Mastodon) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Roundups_of_Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_News_and_Moving.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Roundups_of_Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_News_and_Moving.gmi
01:43 TR Bot; Tux Machines Roundups of Free, Libre, and Open Source Software News (and Moving to Mastodon)
01:46 DaemonFC; The clock in my car is supposed to set itself with RDS, but if you tune to a station that's not configured right it doesn't work right.
01:46 DaemonFC; I ended up putting it in sync with my Casio (atomic clock) this morning because being one minute off was annoying me.
01:46 DaemonFC; Some of these RDS stations will set the hour wrong. :/
01:47 TR News; "On the far left is the battery filling up (purple below the line) and my car charging. Combined, the battery charge and car charger hit 9,000w! You will see a few spikes during the day which are basically kettles and coffee machines, and cooking." https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/12/12/my-experience-of-having-a-9-5kwh-home-battery-in-the-uk-for-about-a-month/
01:47 TR Bot; My experience of having a 9.5kwh home battery in the UK for about a month Cliffski's Blog
01:49 TR News; "Ive been flirting with Mastodon... Its core architectural choices have some nasty, intractable consequences. I want to learn from people who arent like me, who have lived experiences different from my own. I want pleasant surprises and serendipitous moments. I dont want a thin veneer of toxic positivity hiding structural exclusion." https://ericwbailey.website/published/centerless/
01:49 TR Bot; Centerless Eric Bailey
01:50 TR News; "two of my main sources of community grew too toxic. Twitter is the obvious one, the other being a Slack workspace I participate in." https://ericwbailey.website/published/centerless/
01:51 schestowitz[TR]; https://mstdn.party/@gwensnyder/109530291742699097
01:51 TR Bot; Gwen Snyder is uncivil: "If Mastodon diehards want this to be The Next Pla" - Mastodon Party
01:52 TR News; BMA400 and LPS28DFW: A Closer Look - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5500 Source: SparkFun Electronics | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sparkfun.com/news/5500
01:52 TR Bot; and LPS28DFW: A Closer Look - News - SparkFun Electronics
01:54 TR News; "While the internet is flooding with mentions of what ChatGPT failed to do, what it can do is surprisingly advanced. Below are two such examples. It is not an argument that validates (or invalidates) abilities of the AI." https://blog.asitavsen.com/post/chatgpt-surprises-with-its-abilities/
01:54 TR Bot; Still young, ChatGPT surprises with its abilities | Asitav Sen
01:54 TR News; Espionage risks MATTER https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-google-begins-its-matter-roll-out/
01:54 TR Bot; Podcast: Google begins its Matter roll out - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
01:57 TR News; Donald Trump teases a "major announcement" that's just NFTs https://web3isgoinggreat.com/single/donald-trump-teases-a-major-announcement-thats-just-nfts | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//web3isgoinggreat.com/single/donald-trump-teases-a-major-announcement-thats-just-nfts
01:57 TR Bot; Donald Trump teases a "major announcement" that's just NFTs
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 TR News; "I tried the Guix 1.4 rc2 installation image on top of my previous Trisquel 11 installation; following the guided Guix installation menus was simple" NOW IT IS FINALISED https://blog.josefsson.org/2022/12/16/guix-1-4-on-nv41pz/
01:59 TR Bot; Guix 1.4 on NV41PZ Simon Josefsson's blog
02:02 TR News; "After a few years of abstinence from any sort of social media (beyond posting here), it is meet to record my impressions of mainstream social media. And fediverse must now be called mainstream if the flood of refugees from Birdsite is to have any import" gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20221217-Misc-Tech-AIsAndMen.gmi
02:03 TR News; "I had an hours long chat with ChatGPT, the prototype intelligence in beta release by OpenAI." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20221218-Tech-AI-Lit-TaoAndTwain.gmi
02:13 DaemonFC; https://news.yahoo.com/exploding-grenade-launcher-gift-ukraine-141134787.html
02:13 TR Bot; Exploding grenade launcher a gift from Ukraine, Polish police chief says
02:13 DaemonFC; They gave a grenade launcher to some Polacks and you'll never believe what happened next!
02:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
02:16 TR News; Links 18/12/2022: ExTiX Deepin 22.12 Live and Linux Mint 21.1 Vera | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/18/linux-mint-21-1-vera/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/18/linux-mint-21-1-vera/
02:16 TR Bot; Links 18/12/2022: ExTiX Deepin 22.12 Live and Linux Mint 21.1 Vera | Techrights
02:16 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
02:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
02:16 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_leftovers.gmi
02:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
02:18 MinceR; DaemonFC: why did they give them a grenade launcher?
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02:22 schestowitz[TR]; MinceR: to launch grenades?
02:22 MinceR; why would police need to launch grenades, especially on such a scale that it's enough to have 1 grenade launcher in the entire country?
02:23 MinceR; sounds more like a toy they can't handle properly than a tool of their trade
02:23 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
02:23 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
02:23 DaemonFC; Twitter's new policy is you can't talk about being on any competing platform, link, or leave your handle on another platform in a tweet or you could be banned.
02:23 DaemonFC; Things must be getting worse there than I thought.
02:24 DaemonFC; <MinceR> sounds more like a toy they can't handle properly than a tool of their trade
02:24 DaemonFC; Well, they're Polacks so they blew themselves and the grenade launcher up and now can't threaten the other dumb Polacks with it.
02:24 DaemonFC; So this is what we call a self-limiting problem.
02:25 MinceR; :>
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02:26 schestowitz[TR]; ukraine got many weapons as "gifts"
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; sales at the expense of other countries' taxpayers
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; mostly US
02:26 schestowitz[TR]; weapons trade is mostly graft
02:33 MinceR; mmm, Graft Weapon
02:33 MinceR; https://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/graftWeapon.htm
02:33 TR Bot; Weapon :: d20srd.org
02:33 MinceR; (doesn't seem terribly useful, actually)
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; i have a tech question
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; say i have hdmi display
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; kde neon sends audio to that via hdmi by default
02:36 schestowitz[TR]; not the jack
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; but you want display to go over hdmi
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; but not the sound
02:37 schestowitz[TR]; this is a puseaudio system
02:37 MinceR; afaik you can tell PA which output you want to use
02:38 MinceR; it has some sort of control panel application where you can do this (and also set per-client volumes, if PA feels like letting you do that)
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-181222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-181222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-181222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-181222.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, December 18, 2022
02:39 schestowitz[TR]; thanks, checking
02:40 schestowitz[TR]; ywo sets of speakers unused
02:40 schestowitz[TR]; *two
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02:40 schestowitz[TR]; with laptops you can never use builtin and external and built in at the same time either
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, December 18, 2022
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02:55 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> this is a puseaudio system
02:55 DaemonFC; GNOME lets you switch the outputs from Settings.
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; i cannot tell the monitor to not pick up sound over hdmi
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; i could also never figure out when and how it'll send the sound over hdmi
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03:01 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: any trick for playing builtin and external at same time?
03:01 schestowitz[TR]; never seen a laptop that can do this
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; but ought to be feasible
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 142546 total Total number of pages in capsule: 43959 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 4 months 15 days ago
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; or laptop -> hdmi audio + headphones
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; i can oly trick it
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; by using phyhsical splitter
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:09 schestowitz[TR]; https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/579275/how-to-configure-pulseaudio-to-make-laptop-speakers-and-headphones-work-simultan
03:09 TR Bot; ubuntu - How to configure Pulseaudio to make laptop speakers and headphones work simultaneously? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
03:11 schestowitz[TR]; assumes alsa
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://askubuntu.com/questions/276170/speakers-and-headphones-at-the-same-time-when-using-a-dv6-2170
03:13 TR Bot; sound - Speakers and headphones at the same time when using a DV6-2170 - Ask Ubuntu
03:13 schestowitz[TR]; https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=335359
03:13 TR Bot; Dual sound output to laptop speakers and HDMI - Linux Mint Forums
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03:21 MinceR; schestowitz[TR]: have you tried pavucontrol?
03:21 schestowitz[TR]; funny uoi mention that
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; as I was just doing that
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; years ago it helped with one laptop
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; such a shame that so many speakers are manufactured and never/rarely used
03:28 schestowitz[TR]; evenn virtual devices seem unable to add built in and external
03:29 schestowitz[TR]; hdmi seems like a matter of luck sometimes
03:29 schestowitz[TR]; physical devices also don't prioritise headphone jack
03:30 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: any trick for playing builtin and external at same time?
03:30 DaemonFC; I'm not sure.
03:30 DaemonFC; I use a splitter, but backwards.
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; then there's the "WHY would you want to do THAT?" crowd
03:31 DaemonFC; That way I can plug the TV's RCA out into a Y cable into a female 3.5 mm into the Bose and the laptop goes into the other side.
03:32 DaemonFC; So you can have both input sources without messing around with wires constantly even though there's only one input on the Bose.
03:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], My mouth is like 99% healed.
03:33 DaemonFC; That happened pretty quickly once I started hammering it with Valtrex 2x a day.
03:33 DaemonFC; COVID was pretty rough.
03:35 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about how hard multi factor authentication is. This all starts from a Mastodon thread, and Jerry Bell, the administrator of infosec.exchange joins us to discuss password security and all things Mastodon. Infosec.exchange is an incredible story and Jerry weaves a thrilling tale." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/12/18/episode-354-jerry-bell-tells-us-why-mastodon-is-awesome-and-mfa-is-hard/
03:35 TR Bot; Episode 354 Jerry Bell tells us why Mastodon is awesome and MFA is hard Open Source Security
03:37 TR News; Kubernetes 1.26: Device Manager graduates to GA | Kubernetes https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/12/19/devicemanager-ga/ Source: Kubernetes Blog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kubernetes.io/blog/2022/12/19/devicemanager-ga/
03:37 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.26: Device Manager graduates to GA | Kubernetes
03:38 TR News; "Publicly accessible databases often impose query limits or require registration. Ive decided to host different light/medium size by using PostgreSQL at databases.pacha.dev." https://pacha.dev/blog/2022/12/15/sql-databases-for-students-and-educators/
03:38 TR Bot; SQL Databases for Students and Educators Pach
03:40 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/17/business/tips-coffee-ice-cream-touch-screens-ctrp/index.html
03:40 TR Bot; of control': No one knows how much to tip | CNN Business
03:40 TR News; "At the time of writing, I have essentially left Twitter. It was a fun ride and without going into whats happening there now, this is a good opportunity to look at my 12 years on the platform. Early in November, I downloaded my data and locked my Twitter account." https://quantixed.org/2022/12/18/twitcher-tweet-frequency-over-the-years/
03:40 TR Bot; Twitcher: tweet frequency over the years quantixed
03:40 DaemonFC; MOAR CNN shitposts
03:41 DaemonFC; Can they just lay EVERYONE off next time, please?
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; clickibait
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; shocking quote
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; followed bby some headline
03:41 DaemonFC; "And others eschew tipping for a $5 iced coffee, saying the price is already high enough."
03:42 DaemonFC; I just paid $5 for a coffee and now I'll whine about a $1 tip!
03:42 TR News; Google Analytic is spyware/malware https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/12/google-analytics-in-r-review-of-2022/
03:42 TR Bot; Analytics in R: Review of 2022 | R-bloggers
03:42 DaemonFC; Could've made a full pot at home for 50 cents.
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; :-)
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; ok,, I give up on the speaker thing for now
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; 6 sevices with speakers here
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; can only use 2 at the same time
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; with wire splitter
03:46 schestowitz[TR]; lots of people leaving twitter now
03:46 schestowitz[TR]; I think the ban on mastodon and suspension of critics of musk did it
03:46 schestowitz[TR]; for many people it was the last ssstraw
03:47 TR News; ""Theres a lot of talk about how GPT is going to take over search. Meaning, compete with or take down Google." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/gpt-and-search/
03:47 TR Bot; GPT and Search - Daniel Miessler
03:47 TR News; "I get the excitement there, but there are some pretty serious barriers to having this happen immediately. First, GPT is non-deterministic, meaning you can ask it the same thing twice and get completely different results. In fact youre likely to." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/gpt-and-search/
03:48 TR News; How to Survive and Thrive in a World Where HEY HI Can Do Almost Everything https://danielmiessler.com/blog/how-to-survive-and-thrive-in-a-world-where-ai-can-do-almost-everything/
03:48 TR Bot; How to Survive and Thrive in a World Where AI Can Do Almost Everything - Daniel Miessler
03:49 TR News; "The advancement by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory researchers will be built on to further develop fusion energy research." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/science/nuclear-fusion-energy-breakthrough.html
03:49 TR Bot; Scientists Achieve Nuclear Fusion Energy Breakthrough in the US - The New York Times
03:50 TR News; Went to Twitter, which is rare, using Firefox. Got bombarded with many ANIMATED ads
03:50 TR News; "To cut costs, Twitter has not paid rent for its San Francisco headquarters or any of its global offices for weeks, three people close to the company said. Twitter has also refused to pay a $197,725 bill for private charter flights made the week of Mr. Musks takeover" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twitter-shakeup.html
03:50 TR Bot; Musk Shakes Up Twitters Legal Team as He Looks to Cut More Costs - The New York Times
03:52 TR News; Musk Steers Twitter Right Into the Iceberg, Bans All Links to All Other Social Media Sites https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/12/18/musk-twitter-iceberg
03:52 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: Musk Steers Twitter Right Into the Iceberg, Bans All Links to All Other Social Media Sites
03:52 TR News; "Seems more than a bit euphemistic to describe not paying rent or promised severence packages as mere cost-cutting measures. And it also seems like an inauspicious time to shake up the companys legal department." https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/12/14/everything-going-just-fine-twitter
03:52 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: One More for the 'Everything Is Going Just Fine at Twitter' File
03:53 TR News; "As someone who has been writing extremely skeptically about the technology for a long time I believe it is her ability to couch well-informed skepticism in such a reasonable frame that makes her so effective. I, and other critics, have a lesson to learn here." https://blog.dshr.org/2022/12/well-deserved-recognition.html
03:53 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: Well-Deserved Recognition
03:54 TR News; "But the evidence for increased Bitcoin mining consumption is far stronger than merely "suggested". The post-Merge spike in the Bitcoin hash rate is clearly visible, from around 222EH/s to around 273EH/s, or an increase of about 23% in hash rate" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/12/the-power-of-ethereums-merge-revisited.html
03:54 TR Bot; DSHR's Blog: The Power Of Ethereum's Merge Revisited
03:58 TR News; "Twitter also shut down its Spaces audio chat feature, which journalists including at least one who Musk had suspended and Musk used last night to have a live discussion about the suspensions." https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/12/16/23512993/doxxing-elon-musk-twitter-journalist-ban
03:58 TR Bot; Musk didnt ban journalists for doxxing. He did it because he can. - Vox
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:00 TR News; NYTimes misleading clickbait https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/16/us/california-national-forest-iphone-rescue.html
04:00 TR Bot; Couple in Car Survive 300-Foot Fall Into a California Canyon - The New York Times
04:02 TR News; Seems more like NYTimes "iPhone" commercial, making up for reality like https://www.xda-developers.com/roller-coaster-crash-detection-iphone/ and https://tidbits.com/2022/10/10/roller-coasters-can-trigger-crash-detection-in-the-iphone-14-and-apple-watch/
04:02 TR Bot; Some roller coaster rides are triggering Crash Detection on the iPhone 14
04:02 TR Bot; Coasters Can Trigger Crash Detection in the iPhone 14 and Apple Watch - TidBITS
04:03 TR News; FFS, as if nearby cars won't see a car falling down a cliff and then phone emergency services. Apple is just initiating one more (redundant) call. NYTimes = Apple spam.
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04:04 TR News; Apple does not improve lifestyles. It diminishes people's savings and feeds the sweatshops giants.
04:04 AdmFubar; https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/18/elon-musk-is-jekyll-and-hyde-character-and-as-head-of-twitter-hyde-is-winning
04:04 TR Bot; Elon Musk is a Jekyll and Hyde character. And as head of Twitter, Hyde is winning | John Naughton | The Guardian
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; Naughton
04:05 schestowitz[TR]; he should do his own blog
04:06 schestowitz[TR]; guardian 'absorbed' many voices
04:06 schestowitz[TR]; to better serve the oligarchs
04:06 schestowitz[TR]; by selective rage
04:07 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, December 18, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:07 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:07 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:07 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:17 TR News; (NEW): Create Database and Table in LibreOffice Base [Beginner's Guide] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Create_Database_and_Table_in_LibreOffice_Base_Beginner_s_Guide.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Create_Database_and_Table_in_LibreOffice_Base_Beginner_s_Guide.gmi
04:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Create Database and Table in LibreOffice Base [Beginner's Guide]
04:18 AdmFubar; I guess this is better than the magic eight ball he used to decide on buying twitter... file:///home/mradmin/.cache/kioexec/krun/29372_0/elon-musk-dares-public-to-vote-him-out-of-twitter-in-poll
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; hello mr admin
04:19 schestowitz[TR]; some p[eople say
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; that he gets publicity
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; and any publicity is goo
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; I reject this idea
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; he has other copmpanies
04:20 schestowitz[TR]; so bad publlcity hurts them
04:25 TR News; Firefox 108 on POWER http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/12/Firefox_108_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_What_s_New.shtml
04:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines Firefox 108 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New
04:26 TR News; Day 19: A few modules to ease working with databases in Raku applications - Raku Advent Calendar https://raku-advent.blog/2022/12/19/day-19-a-few-modules-to-ease-working-with-databases-in-raku-applications/ Source: Rakulang | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//raku-advent.blog/2022/12/19/day-19-a-few-modules-to-ease-working-with-databases-in-raku-applications/
04:26 TR Bot; Day 19: A few modules to ease working with databases in Raku applications Raku Advent Calendar
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04:31 TR News; "No question that those getting walked out are the "Best and the Brightest"." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kdhjgGp#replies
04:31 TR Bot; Dan Rather Reports: Layoffs at Microsoft - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
04:33 TR News; "This website is becoming increasingly polluted by MS. I come here to read about Linux and Free Software!" http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36810/
04:33 TR Bot; MS Pollution: Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Planner
04:33 schestowitz[TR]; "Hi maxxedout, this story is about open source alternatives to a proprietary product. LXer has a long history of encouraging migrations away from proprietary and into the Free world. '
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; Seems like WSL and other shit pisses off readers
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; I said it all along
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; some of those "Linux" sites actively piss off readers
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; by pushing and interjecting Microsoft spam
04:34 schestowitz[TR]; they do themselves a disservice
04:39 TR News; (UPDATED): Firefox 108 Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/12/Firefox_108_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_What_s_New.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/12/Firefox_108_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_What_s_New.gmi
04:40 TR News; Purposeful effort gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-12-18-Purposeful-effor.gmi
04:40 AdmFubar; https://hackaday.com/2022/12/18/a-transistor-memory-wait-its-both/
04:40 TR Bot; Transistor? Memory? Wait, Its Both! | Hackaday
04:44 AdmFubar; https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-2658980703/
04:44 TR Bot; 'Are you just winging it?' Legal expert warns Elon Musk he may have just made a huge mistake - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; a bit clickbaity because
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; 1) it uses those quotes at the start
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; typical clickbait style that took off in recent years
04:46 schestowitz[TR]; 2) the headline does not say what the mistake is
04:47 schestowitz[TR]; Raw Story seems to be doing this a lot
04:47 schestowitz[TR]; IIRC, they used to repost AP
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; if they give insufficient information in the headline, intentionally, they are optimising for "clicks" in social control media
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; the headline should be self-contained
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; so people can see it and move on
04:48 schestowitz[TR]; they try to waste people time
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; for "engagement", e.g. ads
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; next step is, they put boobs and stuff in the sidebars
04:49 schestowitz[TR]; for "screen time"
04:49 AdmFubar; boobs??? like elon?? :P
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05:08 DaemonFC; Lots of people who went to college are ruining the world.
05:08 DaemonFC; A lot of farmers who grow our food never went to college.
05:09 DaemonFC; They get farm equipment from John Deere. The software in it was written by people who went to college, copyrighted and copy protected by people who went to college, and ensures that you can't take it anywhere to be fixed except a John Deere service center that charges more to work on your tractor because nobody else can.
05:09 DaemonFC; It's the same with Windows, the Mac, your iPhone, or car.
05:09 DaemonFC; mjg59_, ^
05:09 DaemonFC; From my Mastodon straight to you, buddy. :)
05:14 AdmFubar; https://yewtu.be/search?q=louis+rossmann+john+deer
05:14 TR Bot; louis rossmann john deer - Invidious
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:05 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> Lots of people who went to college are ruining the world.
06:05 schestowitz[TR]; esp. schools for MBAs
06:10 DaemonFC; Biologist for sale....cheap.
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; serving NSA agenda
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; intentionally
06:16 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> Cambridge Universitys course for spooks https://declassifieduk.org/cambridge-universitys-course-for-spooks/ Source: Declassified UK | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//declassifieduk.org/cambridge-universitys-course-for-spooks/
06:16 TR Bot; Cambridge Universitys course for spooks
06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
06:43 DaemonFC; It's kind of funny what went on with the "Swatch x Omega".
06:43 DaemonFC; They came up with a low cost quartz movement for a watch that looks like the Omega Speedmaster and sell them cheaply.
06:44 DaemonFC; At first I wondered why they would do that, isn't it kind of "brand destruction"?
06:44 DaemonFC; Then I realized that Swatch is making these things pretty cheaply and not to the standards of a real Omega watch.
06:45 DaemonFC; The margin is probably at least as high, if not higher, than the Omega, and probably nobody interested in an Omega watch would wear this.
06:52 DaemonFC; Meanwhile in London... https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/320607572_3460429190870877_8117058948626787346_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=uiSQRHpo6ZwAX8msI8w&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AfDr8SxFwctqCmnOo9EcRXJKV6V2geU1AnwwWqXoTHotfQ&oe=63A483CB
06:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
06:52 DaemonFC; This is a disgrace.
06:53 DaemonFC; Prisoners get more room than this. And they don't have to go somewhere every day to figure out where they'll get $2,600 a month to pay for it.
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07:02 TR News; Copyright Maximalists Are Nonchalantly Destroying the World Wide Web | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/world-wide-web-link-tax/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/19/world-wide-web-link-tax/
07:02 TR Bot; Copyright Maximalists Are Nonchalantly Destroying the World Wide Web | Techrights
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:25 TR News; Sirius Open Source: Where Babysitters and Secretaries/Personal Assistants Can Miraculously Become Managers (and Fail at It Really Badly) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/sirius-incompetent-management/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/19/sirius-incompetent-management/
07:25 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source: Where Babysitters and Secretaries/Personal Assistants Can Miraculously Become Managers (and Fail at It Really Badly) | Techrights
07:45 TR News; [Meme] Almost Nothing Gets Done at the Office (Management Pretending to be Busy) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/
07:45 TR Bot; [Meme] Almost Nothing Gets Done at the Office (Management Pretending to be Busy) | Techrights
07:50 *unawares is now known as Guest59340
07:52 TR News; We're about halfway now in this series about Openwashing Sirius, a company that USED to be FSF sponsor http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source
07:52 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source - Techrights
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07:53 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, December 18, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/irc-log-181222/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/19/irc-log-181222/
07:53 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, December 18, 2022 | Techrights
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08:22 TR News; From all the IBM shills. Even this greeting got tagged "IBM i" https://www.itjungle.com/2022/12/19/happy-holidays-to-all-of-you-from-all-of-us/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/ibm-it-jungle/
08:22 TR Bot; Happy Holidays To All Of You From All Of Us - IT Jungle
08:22 TR Bot; IT Jungle Still Failing to Properly Disclose That IBM Pays It to Promote IBM in About 90% of Articles (PR Vehicle in Media Clothing) | Techrights
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08:23 TR News; As usual, as of late, 100% of the 'articles' are IBM SPAM (no disclosure) https://www.itjungle.com/2022/12/19/ok-this-really-is-the-last-of-power-systems-announcements-for-2022/ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/12/19/2022-an-ibm-i-year-in-review-part-2/ https://www.itjungle.com/2022/12/19/ibm-to-chase-oracle-accounts-with-24-core-power-s1014/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/ibm-it-jungle/
08:23 TR Bot; OK, This Really Is The Last Of Power Systems Announcements For 2022 - IT Jungle
08:23 TR Bot; 2022: An IBM i Year In Review: Part 2 - IT Jungle
08:23 TR Bot; IBM To Chase Oracle Accounts With 24-Core Power S1014 - IT Jungle
08:23 TR News; What happens when the SPAM/PR industry becomes indistinguishable from journalism? "HEY HI" isn't the threat; corrupt sites are.
08:24 TR News; "Artifact Space is a military (mostly) science fiction novel, the first of an expected trilogy." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/1-4732-3262-7.html
08:24 TR Bot; Review: Artifact Space by Miles Cameron
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08:33 DaemonFC; The part of the "Casio" scene in Defending Your Life that made me laugh was that he starts out with "Switzerland keeps the time." and his buddy says, "That's going to change.".
08:33 DaemonFC; Then, instead of asking the friend "Explain why. I'm all ears." where he undoubtedly would have heard all about mass produced affordable accurate quartz watches that the Swiss had no answer for, he goes on this "know it all" rant about how Europeans have "precision industry" and all the Japanese are good for is stereos.
08:34 DaemonFC; "Now, Japan makes a hell of a radio, but they don't know beans about precision". Very condescending.
08:35 DaemonFC; That one ended up hurting him a hell of a lot worse than the horrible salary negotiation because the $10,000 investment would have been worth $39 million in several years.
08:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], mstdn.social keeps collapsing.
08:38 schestowitz[TR]; in what sense?
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08:38 schestowitz[TR]; technical?
08:39 DaemonFC; Yeah.
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; fediverse is a ehadache
08:39 DaemonFC; "So @.joinmastodon got unbanned from Twitter.
08:39 DaemonFC; This is the first tweet that they sent after the unbanning:
08:39 DaemonFC; "As a company from eastern Germany, we know that building a wall to try and keep people from leaving isn't a good idea."
08:39 DaemonFC; What a response!"
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; managing large instances if a full-time job
08:39 schestowitz[TR]; unpaid
08:39 DaemonFC; Vivaldi set up an instance.
08:39 DaemonFC; Vivaldi Social
08:39 DaemonFC; I know, I know.
08:39 DaemonFC; But mjg59_ staying on Twitter is fine.
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; see his latest blog post
08:40 DaemonFC; With everything going on right now it only further destroys his credibility, if he had any with anyone.
08:40 schestowitz[TR]; not sure if it means he got suspended
08:40 DaemonFC; Garrett?
08:40 DaemonFC; Yes, he's been banned.
08:40 DaemonFC; LOL
08:41 DaemonFC; Elon got him for retweeting from the suspended Elon's Jet account.
08:41 DaemonFC; Oh this is good.
08:41 DaemonFC; mjg59_, finally gets a taste of his own medicine.
08:41 DaemonFC; CANCELED, motherfucker.
08:41 TR News; "The highlight of this is a batch of fixes for the online metadata checking code as we start the loooong march towards merging online repair. I aim to merge that in time for the 2023 LTS." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=87be949912eedb73690d8eaeb086f24bfe17438d
08:41 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
08:42 DaemonFC; Crime? Annoying Elon Musk. Trial? LOL Actually, he probably just got caught up in some kind of cascading "ban everyone that interacted with this" ban.
08:43 TR News; Guix 1.4.0 is out, but nowhere in the site is it updated to say that
08:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Garrett has moved to Mastodon after being banned from Twitter.
08:44 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
08:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
08:45 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], mjg59_ is mostly just boosting and resharing his own posts.
08:45 DaemonFC; It's like he has no idea how to use it and has turned into my dad on Facebook.
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], mjg59_ is mostly just boosting and resharing his own posts.
08:49 schestowitz[TR]; you can get suspended for this
08:50 DaemonFC; :)
08:50 DaemonFC; That's a paddlin'.
08:51 TR News; (NEW): Review: Favourite distributions of 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Review_Favourite_distributions_of_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Review_Favourite_distributions_of_2022.gmi
08:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Review: Favourite distributions of 2022
08:52 TR News; (NEW): Ubuntu 23.04 Dev Builds Now Look a Pinch More Appealing http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Ubuntu_23_04_Dev_Builds_Now_Look_a_Pinch_More_Appealing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Ubuntu_23_04_Dev_Builds_Now_Look_a_Pinch_More_Appealing.gmi
08:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu 23.04 Dev Builds Now Look a Pinch More Appealing
08:52 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Android_Leftovers.gmi
08:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
08:54 TR News; TWC 195: Special Speedy Frequency https://blogs.perl.org/users/bruce_gray/2022/12/twc-195-special-speedy-frequency.html
08:54 TR Bot; 195: Special Speedy Frequency | Bruce Gray [blogs.perl.org]
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08:59 TR News; 'I quit my job rather than go back to the office' - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63944632 Source: BBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63944632
08:59 TR Bot; 'I quit my job rather than go back to the office' - BBC News
09:00 TR News; When Your Boss is Literally a Babysitter https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/19/babysitters-as-managers/
09:00 TR Bot; Blog Archive When Your Boss is Literally a Babysitter
09:01 TR News; Sirius Open Source of the past 4 years has been somewhat of a farce at the top; people with neither skills nor experience in management (far from it!) try to hide their incapability and insecurities by mostly bullying the staff, misusing/abusing authority that was never deserved in the first place http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/sirius-incompetent-management/
09:01 TR Bot; Sirius Open Source: Where Babysitters and Secretaries/Personal Assistants Can Miraculously Become Managers (and Fail at It Really Badly) | Techrights
09:02 TR News; Sirius Open Source became an unproductive company because managers could not properly manage very basic stuff like holiday cover; they had relied too much on people who work all night long to actually serve clients (by doing actual, technical work) http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/managers-pretending-to-be-busy/
09:02 TR Bot; [Meme] Almost Nothing Gets Done at the Office (Management Pretending to be Busy) | Techrights
09:04 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I've seen Casio and Timex watches that are far superior to the Swatch models for $18-40. The Timex Expedition even includes solar power for $40.
09:04 TR News; It seems clear that few large publishers and monopolists are willing to destroy the World Wide Web for personal gain; one recent manifestation of this agenda is link tax (charging sites for linking to other sites) http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/world-wide-web-link-tax/
09:04 TR Bot; Copyright Maximalists Are Nonchalantly Destroying the World Wide Web | Techrights
09:04 DaemonFC; I can't believe that Swatch manages to sell anything at those prices just because it says "Swiss Made". They're a cheap Quartz watch that are built to the standards of....crap at Walmart.
09:07 DaemonFC; I let all of the laundry back up while I had COVID.
09:08 DaemonFC; So now I'm having to run like 8-9 loads through that portable washing machine all at once.
09:08 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], That's literally all a boss does. Scream at people to go faster.
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; haha
09:08 DaemonFC; At any job.
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; that's a BAD boss
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; good bosses don't need to do that
09:09 DaemonFC; Well, I've had a lot of those.
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; but such bosses are rare and expensive
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; people respect Torvalds
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; and he rarely shouts at people
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; unless they do something very bad
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; same with de raast
09:09 DaemonFC; They paid the guy twice as much as me and all he does is stand there and look at everyone working and shouts "work faster!".
09:09 DaemonFC; I swear to god.
09:09 schestowitz[TR]; you want bosses like them
09:09 DaemonFC; Like, they didn't do much at any factory I worked at.
09:10 DaemonFC; Just "work faster!" and write people up and track attendance. Try to steal minutes off your time card while you weren't watching.
09:10 schestowitz[TR]; it's like the rowing boat
09:10 schestowitz[TR]; and the person with the megaphone
09:10 schestowitz[TR]; guess whoi suffers
09:10 schestowitz[TR]; and who is deriving joy from that suffering
09:10 schestowitz[TR]; rowing is very very painful in the competitive sense
09:11 schestowitz[TR]; more than running because all the body is working
09:11 DaemonFC; They have too many bosses and not enough workers at Walmart.
09:11 DaemonFC; It's the worst I've ever seen.
09:11 schestowitz[TR]; if they shout too much, many droplets
09:11 DaemonFC; At least most factories I've been at had 1 or 2 shift supervisors.
09:11 schestowitz[TR]; then they make the staff sick :-)
09:11 DaemonFC; At Walmart you have like 6 people watching 30 people work.
09:11 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they figures out it's the stweet spot rati
09:11 DaemonFC; At factories it was like 1 boss for every 100 workers.
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; even if that sucks for staff and for clients
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; let me guesS:
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; at walmart the supervisors get paid maybe 20% more than the rest
09:12 DaemonFC; Hourly?
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; so 5 supervisors only cost them like one more "low-level" worker
09:12 DaemonFC; THey don't give big pay raises for hourly supervisors.
09:12 schestowitz[TR]; and they mostly compensate them for the extra responsibielity with a job titke
09:13 DaemonFC; Like $1-2. When I was there it was like 50-60 cents.
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; like NFT as 'incentive'
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; rather than proper salary
09:13 DaemonFC; The hourly supervisors end up working.
09:13 DaemonFC; Stocking shelves, running registers.
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; so what you say is what I spsect
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; bigger job title
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; maybe more hours
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; more stressa
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; and half a dollar more
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; not worth it
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; meanwhile the waltons rake in BILLIONS
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; and moan about suppliers
09:13 schestowitz[TR]; like farmers
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; talking about "inflation"
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; even if walmart profits from it
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; fakinmg sympathy for the "consumer"
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; that's good "markting"
09:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mandy said he wanted to take a Team Lead job. I said no because we'd lose the Comcast Internet Essentials and his Retirement SAVERS Credit.
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; the famers are paid no more than before
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; they just see their bills going up
09:14 DaemonFC; And then there went $1,000 to the IRS and we have to come up with $80 a month for Internet again.
09:14 schestowitz[TR]; samae salary
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; "pandemic of the unvaccined" = "inflation of the vampires"
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; *unvaccinated
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; it's just greed, not deficits
09:15 DaemonFC; So we'd end up losing as much money to the IRS and not qualifying for our internet subsidy anymore as he'd gain.
09:15 DaemonFC; Then they'd expect him to keep an eye on all of those idiots and start riding him for what they're doing.
09:15 schestowitz[TR]; "BUT THE TITLE!!!"
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; "I AM CEO FOUNDER SUPERVISOR EXECTUVE CHIEF SUPREMO!!'
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; (with the same salary)
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; (and more work)
09:16 schestowitz[TR]; "what would the girl down the pub think!!!! man, I can get laid with this title"
09:16 DaemonFC; Asians are just different man.
09:17 DaemonFC; Sorry to put it like this but "I have big job title!".
09:17 DaemonFC; It's like that.
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; in germany they have professor doktor
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; they chaion the title
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; in the UK thney have many aftewr the name
09:17 DaemonFC; I'm like "Keep your fucking job title unless there's MONEY!".
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; roy schestowitz, phd, some 4 letter acronym, some more fancy bullshit
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; in frenchL:
09:17 DaemonFC; That's probably why Japan makes all the best stuff and our industry is gone.
09:17 schestowitz[TR]; SCHESTOWITZ, Roy
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: some companies make up buzzword lingo as incentive instead of money
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; under a false premise
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; that you might find it good as a hopping point for your carreer or netx job
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; so you work 70 hours a week
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; for "senior"
09:18 schestowitz[TR]; or some little difference
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; pay up 5%
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; work hours up 50+%
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; and that gets you nowhere
09:19 DaemonFC; That shouldn't motivate people.
09:19 DaemonFC; It doesn't motivate me.
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; and at the end all your extra work is some "IP" or some company
09:19 DaemonFC; Fuck that.
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; and you basically worked extra 30 hours a week for a hundred bucks a week
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; job titles are all made up
09:19 schestowitz[TR]; devops
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; aiops
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; "systems architect"
09:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], They make your job so much more terrible and you get 50 cents that you won't even notice because the IRS will take 40% of it. LOL
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; "SENIOR systems architect"
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; "VICE PRESIDENT of systems architecture"
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; "Supreme Leader systems architecture"!!
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; [meme of WCW]
09:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], There's diminishing returns to work thanks to tax.
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; the tax element is another thing
09:20 schestowitz[TR]; a payrise can mean decrease in relative pay
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; pro rata
09:21 DaemonFC; Pretty much.
09:21 DaemonFC; It can put you in a bigger bracket, make you lose government benefits you get now, credits....
09:21 DaemonFC; So in the end it's not worth it because the government comes and steals your raise.
09:21 DaemonFC; Then you have a job you hate so much worse.
09:21 schestowitz[TR]; BUT THE JOB TITLE !!
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; "get job title, get *** jobs"
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; that's what they tell you
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; in the movies
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; it's all about money
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; and they train people to think the same
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; so they work more hours
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; MOAR days
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; for a title
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; to impress people who hate them anyway
09:22 schestowitz[TR]; at the end you get X "followers"
09:22 DaemonFC; People who are not stupid tend to be at the bottom. Why? They realize the diminishing returns and how hard they'll have to work for it.
09:23 schestowitz[TR]; and then Musk buys Y and X becomes 0
09:23 DaemonFC; And how much responsibility and what a pain in the ass there will be.
09:23 DaemonFC; You should minimize responsibility and pain in the ass stuff like taxes and people yelling at you and get as much money as you can within that.
09:23 DaemonFC; You should either do MUCH better or stay put.
09:23 DaemonFC; None of this "Team Lead" bullshit.
09:24 schestowitz[TR]; that shortens life too
09:24 schestowitz[TR]; which means the benefits and savings serve no actual purpose
09:24 DaemonFC; I hate responsibility.
09:24 DaemonFC; If I want to sit here and smoke a joint and listen to the radio, I will.
09:24 DaemonFC; If that's what I want to do.
09:25 DaemonFC; There's things to avoid to the furthest extent possible. Work, taxes, the police, and obligations.
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; that might "work" for a ahile
09:25 DaemonFC; I swore I'd never get married.
09:25 schestowitz[TR]; but things get harder when you run out of means
09:25 DaemonFC; I ended up getting married.
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; or get ill and have no coverage
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; having said that, hoarding money you lack the time to properly spend
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; (No, NOT buy a shitty sports car that's the height of your thigh)
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; would prove useless over time
09:26 schestowitz[TR]; esp. as you get older and cannot do many things anymore
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; welkl, marriage is hard in theory
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; because you need to find the right person
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; responsibility does not increase
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; responsibility gets shared
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; so it can actually makes things simpler
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; IF
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; if you find a suitable partner
09:27 schestowitz[TR]; the media and social control media is "opium"
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; so the number of eligible people to share responsibility is going down
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; now you have people whose day goesm like
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; wake up, pickk phone
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; stay under blanket till midday
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; flicking things in social control media or talking
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; then go get some junk food
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; back to bed or safa, day done
09:28 schestowitz[TR]; *sofa
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; those are "GOOD" at social; control media
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; they "collect" many 'friends'
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; because they have no life
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; despite having no life
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; or BECAUSE of a lack of life
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; they make a "meta"life
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; and then comes Musk
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; raiding your "life"
09:29 schestowitz[TR]; your online "friends"
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; or mental support lifeline
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; and you realise you wasted a lot of your life just adding value to Jack Dorsey's acquisition price
09:30 schestowitz[TR]; so well done
09:30 TR News; "They stayed up all night, solved issues, didnt just munch cookies all day long." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/19/babysitters-as-managers/
09:30 TR Bot; Blog Archive When Your Boss is Literally a Babysitter
09:33 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> now you have people whose day goesm like
09:33 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> wake up, pickk phone
09:33 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> stay under blanket till midday
09:33 DaemonFC; Mandy
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09:34 TR News; What Makes Linux the Go-to System for AI/ML Development? https://analyticsindiamag.com/what-makes-linux-the-go-to-system-for-ai-ml-development/ Source: AIM | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//analyticsindiamag.com/what-makes-linux-the-go-to-system-for-ai-ml-development/
09:34 TR Bot; What Makes Linux the Go-to System for AI/ML Development?
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10:25 TR News; "Tested against qemu, cpu, and diod with fsx, dbench, and some simple benchmarks." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221218232217.1713283-1-evanhensbergen@icloud.com/
10:25 TR Bot; [PATCH v2 00/10] Performance fixes for 9p filesystem - Eric Van Hensbergen
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11:34 TR News; Microsoft + proprietary + DRM = not cool, even if Steam Deck runs GNU/Linux https://cubiclenate.com/2022/12/19/fortnite-on-the-steamdeck/
11:34 TR Bot; on the SteamDeck | With Xbox Cloud Gaming CubicleNate's Techpad
11:37 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/half_a_dozen_or_so_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/half_a_dozen_or_so_howtos.gmi
11:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
11:38 TR News; Use Rexx for scripting in 2023 | https://opensource.com/article/22/12/rexx-scripting Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/12/rexx-scripting
11:38 TR Bot; Rexx for scripting in 2023 | Opensource.com
11:40 TR News; (NEW): Discover the power of the Linux SpaceFM file manager http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Discover_the_power_of_the_Linux_SpaceFM_file_manager.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Discover_the_power_of_the_Linux_SpaceFM_file_manager.gmi
11:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Discover the power of the Linux SpaceFM file manager
11:41 TR News; ICBM on leadership https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/12/leadership-resolutions-2023 way too late...
11:41 TR Bot; 5 leadership resolutions for 2023 | The Enterprisers Project
12:03 TR News; Software Patents on surveillance, sold as "Games" or "Ads" https://uk.pcmag.com/games/144405/microsoft-files-patent-for-displaying-personalized-ads-in-games
12:03 TR Bot; Microsoft Files Patent for Displaying Personalized Ads in Games
12:05 TR News; This bizarre article obsesses over "Linux" and describes issues that are likely not even in Linux itself https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/running-in-place-staying-afloat-with-language-level-vulnerability-management/
12:05 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.cpomagazine.com/cyber-security/running-in-place-staying-afloat-with-language-level-vulnerability-management/ )
12:06 TR News; No, many efficiency issues here and human rights problems. Consumerism is nonsense. https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/11/should-groceries-come-by-drone-everywhere/
12:06 TR Bot; Should groceries come by drone, EVERYWHERE? | Stop at Zona-M
12:09 TR News; FSFE pretends it has something to do with GNU, just like it pretends to be connected to FSF https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20221219-01.en.html see http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/
12:09 TR Bot; GNU Health opts for REUSE - FSFE
12:09 TR Bot; Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights
12:10 TR News; "DDNet community member and developer headshot2018 (also check out his fun Teeware modification) has combined Super Mario 64 and DDNet!" https://ddnet.org/news/super-mario-64/
12:10 TR Bot; Super Mario 64 in DDNet - DDraceNetwork News
12:10 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi
12:10 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers
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12:21 TR News; curl sighting: Tschugger | daniel.haxx.se https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/12/19/curl-sighting-tschugger/ Source: Daniel Stenberg | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/12/19/curl-sighting-tschugger/
12:21 TR Bot; sighting: Tschugger | daniel.haxx.se
12:25 TR News; Canonical has become a Microsoft reseller. Truly appalling. https://ubuntu.com//blog/chiselled-containers-perfect-gift-cloud-applications
12:25 TR Bot; Ubuntu: the perfect present for your containerised and cloud applications | Ubuntu
12:27 TR News; People join Canonical thinking they would promote GNU/Linux and instead they end up working on Microsoft projects. We need Ubuntu and Canonical whistleblowers.
12:28 TR News; TopTon TP-X4F mini PC with four 2.5GbE ports features up to AMD Ryzen 7 5825U processor - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/12/19/topton-tp-x4f-mini-pc-4x-2-5gbe-amd-ryzen-7-5825u/ Source: CNX Software | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/12/19/topton-tp-x4f-mini-pc-4x-2-5gbe-amd-ryzen-7-5825u/
12:28 TR Bot; TopTon TP-X4F mini PC with four 2.5GbE ports features up to AMD Ryzen 7 5825U processor - CNX Software
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12:31 TR News; "Several years after Ubuntu abandoned the Unity desktop environment" https://itsfoss.com/install-unity-arch-linux/ | Source: It's FOSS
12:31 TR Bot; Yes! You Can Install Unity Desktop on Arch Linux. Here's How! - It's FOSS
12:31 TR News; "Its not just the software which is becoming more complex, the hardware is too." https://www.automotiveworld.com/articles/driving-the-future-why-open-source-is-key-in-a-world-of-software-defined-cars/ |
12:31 TR Bot; Driving the future: Why open-source is key in a world of software-defined cars | Automotive World
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12:35 TR News; "Git merge is a powerful tool that allows developers to integrate changes from different branches" https://dev.to/mohsenkamrani/git-merge-learn-by-example-1lbf | Source: DEV Community
12:35 TR Bot; Git merge - learn by example - DEV Community
12:35 TR News; [Old] "So now that we know what JSON-M stands for, let's get into the reasons why it is needed." https://fwslc.blogspot.com/2014/10/json-m.html |
12:35 TR Bot; Fourth Watch Software: JSON-M
12:36 TR News; "Java is easy to read and understand: Java has a simple, English-like syntax, which makes it easy for beginners to read and understand code." https://dev.to/kingnelx/there-are-a-few-reasons-why-java-is-a-good-language-for-beginners-to-learn-37e8 | Source: DEV Community
12:36 TR Bot; There are a few reasons why Java is a good language for beginners to learn. - DEV Community
12:40 immibis; lol
12:40 immibis; no
12:43 TR News; Hardware and analogue https://www.economist.com/business/2022/12/15/the-enduring-value-of-an-analogue-technology | Source: The Economist
12:43 TR Bot; enduring value of an analogue technology | The Economist
12:43 TR News; tiktok https://www.voanews.com/a/taiwan-probes-tiktok-for-suspected-illegal-operations/6882097.html | Source: VOA News
12:43 TR Bot; Taiwan Probes TikTok for Suspected Illegal Operations
12:44 TR News; "Meanwhile in China, if you are under fourteen, the TikTok that you use is capped" https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/12/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-tiktok-ban/ |
12:44 TR Bot; All I want for Christmas is a TikTok ban | The Spectator Australia
12:44 schestowitz[TR]; immibis: which part?
12:46 TR News; "Under the proposal by the D66 liberal party, window brothel curtains will stay shut and clients will be asked to book via a QR code" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/12/18/why-could-soon-curtains-amsterdams-red-light-district/ | Source: The Telegraph UK
12:46 TR Bot; Why it could soon be curtains for Amsterdam's red light district
12:46 TR News; "Zimbabwe has collected fingerprints" https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2022/12/15/china-is-helping-zimbabwe-to-build-a-surveillance-state | Source: The Economist
12:46 TR Bot; is helping Zimbabwe to build a surveillance state | The Economist
12:46 TR News; [Old] "The recordings, which were reviewed by BuzzFeed News, contain 14 statements from nine different TikTok employees" https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilybakerwhite/tiktok-tapes-us-user-data-china-bytedance-access | Source: Buzz Feed
12:46 TR Bot; US TikTok User Data Has Been Repeatedly Accessed From China, Leaked Audio Shows
12:47 TR News; "But for those following Arctic politics, Trumps interest wasnt a surprise" https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/12/18/how-greenlands-mineral-wealth-made-it-a-geopolitical-battleground/ | Source: Foreign Policy
12:47 TR Bot; Greenland Is the Next Superpower Battleground
12:48 TR News; "The Czech public sector is steadily raising its involvement with open source." https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/brno-open-source-declaration | Source: Joinup
12:48 TR Bot; timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/brno-open-source-declaration )
12:48 TR News; "Musk has said previously that he would like to turn Twitter into a super app like Tencents WeChat" https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3203686/twitters-journalist-bans-invite-comparisons-censorship-wechat-super-app-elon-musk-wants-emulate | Source: SCMP
12:48 TR Bot; Twitters journalist bans invite comparisons to censorship on WeChat, the super app Elon Musk wants to emulate | South China Morning Post
12:49 TR News; "We still allow cross-posting content from any social media platform" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3779891-twitter-bans-free-promotion-of-other-social-media-platforms/ | Source: The Hill
12:49 TR Bot; Twitter bans free promotion of other social media platforms | The Hill
12:49 TR News; "Twitter users will no longer be able to link to certain rival social media websites" https://www.voanews.com/a/twitter-bans-linking-to-facebook-instagram-other-rivals/6881715.html | Source: VOA News
12:49 TR Bot; Twitter Bans Linking to Facebook, Instagram, Other Rivals
12:50 TR News; "The new, restrictive policy came after many users, eyeing the exit doors, began posting links to their accounts on other platforms following Elon Musk's takeover" https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-bans-promotion-social-media-sites-facebook-instagram-truth-soc-rcna62305 | Source: NBC
12:50 TR Bot; Twitter bans promotion of accounts on other social media sites
12:50 TR News; "Not only are free links to Mastodon, Facebook, Instagram, Truth Social, Tribel, Post and Nostr prohibited" https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-twitter-mastodon-instagram-facebook-1234649511/ | Source: Rolling Stone
12:50 TR Bot; Elons New Twitter Policy: No More Links to Rival Sites Rolling Stone
12:51 TR News; "Twitter temporarily banned the free promotion of specific third-party social media" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/twitter-bans-promotion-social-platforms-facebook-instagram-1235284331/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
12:51 TR Bot; Twitter Bans Free Promotion of Social Platforms Facebook, Instagram The Hollywood Reporter
12:51 TR News; "Many Mastodon URLs no longer work on Twitter, classifying them as potentially dangerous around 6:30 PM PT." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/twitter-bans-open-source-rival-mastodon-see-why/articleshow/96285151.cms | Source: India Times
12:51 TR Bot; Twitter Mastodon: Twitter bans open-source rival Mastodon. See why - The Economic Times
12:52 TR News; Twitter is already dead, except "officially" or technically https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/elon-musk-bans-washington-post-taylor-lorenz-1235464419/ | Source: Variety
12:52 TR Bot; Musk Suspended Washington Post Writer Taylor Lorenz From Twitter - Variety
12:55 TR News; Can we trust our mains power meters? https://odysee.com/@AndreasSpiess:2/can-we-trust-our-mains'-power-meters:6
12:55 TR Bot; Can we trust our mains' power meters?
12:56 TR News; Ford https://www.wardsauto.com/industry-news/ford-readying-new-100-software-driven-vehicle-architecture blocked by javascript
↺ https://www.wardsauto.com/industry-news/ford-readying-new-100-software-driven-vehicle-architecture
12:56 TR Bot; Readying New 100% Software-Driven Vehicle Architecture | WardsAuto
12:57 TR News; "The T-CAMERA S3 is a compact embedded module based on the low power ESP32-S3 SoC supporting dual-band Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 5.2." https://linuxgizmos.com/lilygo-t-camera-s3-includes-display-and-pir-sensor/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
12:57 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/lilygo-t-camera-s3-includes-display-and-pir-sensor/ )
12:58 TR News; Moving on from Twitter https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/moving-on-from-twitter/ "Mastodon links are still completely blocked though. For now, I will still be pointing you to follow us in other places."
12:58 TR Bot; on from Twitter | GamingOnLinux
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13:01 TR News; "Paradox Interactive have announced that they're going to be increasing their prices." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/paradox-interactive-will-be-increasing-game-prices-across-a-bunch-of-currencies/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:01 TR Bot; Interactive will be increasing game prices across a bunch of currencies | GamingOnLinux
13:02 TR News; "I continue to be truly amazed by all the work going into KDE Plasma." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/kde-plasma-gets-wayland-fractional-scaling-fixing-multi-screen-and-a-steam-deck-updater/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:02 TR Bot; Plasma gets Wayland Fractional Scaling, Fixing Multi-Screen and a Steam Deck updater | GamingOnLinux
13:05 TR News; Hedgewars and Free software https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/the-free-and-open-source-worms-like-hedgewars-is-now-on-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:05 TR Bot; free and open source Worms-like 'Hedgewars' is now on Steam | GamingOnLinux
13:13 TR News; "Brickadia could be a good one for gamers both young and old, giving you a game that looks a little bit like a cross between LEGO..." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/multiplayer-sandbox-building-game-brickadia-heads-to-steam-next-year/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:13 TR Bot; sandbox building game Brickadia heads to Steam next year | GamingOnLinux
13:15 TR News; "Epic Games rolled out a change to their account system aimed at protecting the younger people" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/epic-games-needs-your-birthday-to-keep-your-account-working-in-heroic-games-launcher/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:15 TR Bot; Games needs your birthday to keep your account working in Heroic Games Launcher | GamingOnLinux
13:16 TR News; (UPDATED): This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling! Oh, and we also fixed multi-screen (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/17/This_week_in_KDE_Wayland_fractional_scaling_Oh_and_we_also_fixe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/17/This_week_in_KDE_Wayland_fractional_scaling_Oh_and_we_also_fixe.gmi
13:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines This week in KDE: Wayland fractional scaling! Oh, and we also fixed multi-screen (UPDATED)
13:16 techuser; Protecting from what? From the reality?
13:16 techuser; So that they then have mental health issues?
13:19 schestowitz[TR]; protecting them from agenda unwanted by powerful adults
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13:20 schestowitz[TR]; those adults want them as unproductive consumers
13:20 schestowitz[TR]; hard working, only for the rich
13:20 schestowitz[TR]; but if you fuck up their minds too much, they might kill themselves or commit crimes against the rich
13:21 TR News; "Justin Wack and the Big Time Hack looks like a fun time for those of you eager to play more comedy 2D point and click adventures." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/comedy-point-click-adventure-justin-wack-and-the-big-time-hack-gets-a-gog-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:21 TR Bot; point & click adventure Justin Wack and the Big Time Hack gets a GOG release | GamingOnLinux
13:21 TR News; "GE-Proton 7-43, the community-built version of the Proton compatibility layer, is out now and it comes with some useful looking fixes for Steam Deck and Linux desktop gamers." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/12/ge-proton-7-43-is-out-should-fix-up-immortals-fenyx-rising-baldurs-gate-3/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
13:21 TR Bot; 7-43 is out should fix up Immortals Fenyx Rising, Baldur's Gate 3 | GamingOnLinux
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; social control media was seen as desirabe
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; until years ago when beijing had its own
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; and it had gotten very popular
13:21 schestowitz[TR]; with china holding the remote control to people's minds
13:25 MinceR; (fox) https://www.deviantart.com/thrumyeye/art/Fairytale-Fox-Red-Fox-in-the-Snow-785321969
13:25 TR Bot; Fox- Red Fox in the Snow by thrumyeye on DeviantArt
13:51 TR News; "Docker is available in the default repository of Debian but by its nature, you are bound to get old docker versions." https://linuxhandbook.com/install-docker-debian/ | Source: Linux Handbook
13:51 TR Bot; Install Latest Docker on Debian Linux
13:51 TR News; "Leading up to the FIFA World Cup final this weekend" https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-doubles-down-and-seizes-comeback-domains-of-pirate-sites-221219/ | Source: Torrent Freak
13:51 TR Bot; Doubles Down and Seizes 'Comeback' Domains of Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak
13:51 TR News; DMCA https://torrentfreak.com/ubatcha-no-more-genshin-impact-leaks-vs-cognospheres-dilemma-221218/ | Source: Torrent Freak
13:51 TR Bot; No More Genshin Impact Leaks vs. Cognosphere's Dilemma * TorrentFreak
13:58 TR News; schumer https://truthout.org/articles/schumer-accused-of-caving-to-big-tech-after-failure-to-deliver-on-antitrust-pledge/ | Source: TruthOut
13:58 TR Bot; Schumer Accused of Caving to Big Tech After Failure to Deliver on Antitrust Pledge - Truthout
13:59 immibis; schestowitz[TR]: Java does not have English-like syntax. Don't fool yourself - it's no easier than any other average language
14:00 immibis; I heard some places are using Python for beginner courses. Makes sense to me, it's like BASIC at that level
14:02 schestowitz[TR]; java is not "easy"
14:02 schestowitz[TR]; it can be
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; if you know many libs
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; and memorised them
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; methods and lib names
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; reuse is easy in oop
14:03 schestowitz[TR]; but what good is it when you don't knoow what to reuse?
14:12 TR News; (NEW): Lenovo ThinkPad T470 Ultrabook running Linux Part 5 Multimedia http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T470_Ultrabook_running_Linux_Part_5_Multimedia.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T470_Ultrabook_running_Linux_Part_5_Multimedia.gmi
14:13 TR Bot; Tux Machines Lenovo ThinkPad T470 Ultrabook running Linux Part 5 Multimedia
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:21 *XRevan86 read DaemonFC being racist towards the Polish. How lovely.
14:25 TR News; (NEW): GnuCash 4.13 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/GnuCash_4_13.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/GnuCash_4_13.gmi
14:25 TR Bot; Tux Machines GnuCash 4.13
14:29 TR News; wikileaks https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/wikileaks-delegation-meets-bolivian-president-luis-arce-to-discuss-ongoing-prosecution-of-julian-assange-president-calls-for-release-of-assange/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
14:29 TR Bot; WikiLeaks delegation meets Bolivian President Luis Arce to discuss ongoing prosecution of Julian Assange/ President calls for release of Assange - Don't Extradite Assange
14:30 TR News; twitter https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/18/i-will-abide-musk-holds-twitter-poll-decide-if-hell-step-down-ceo | Source: Common Dreams
14:30 TR Bot; 'I Will Abide': In Self-Imposed Survey, 57.5% of Twitter Say Musk Should Step Down as CEO
14:31 TR News; twitter
14:31 TR News; twitter https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/12/18/ftc-urged-take-close-look-musks-twitter-bans-links-competitors | Source: Common Dreams
14:31 TR Bot; FTC Urged to Take a Close Look as Musk's Twitter Bans Links to Competitors
14:31 immibis; OOP is outdated; DOD is where it's at
14:31 immibis; also known as procedural programming
14:34 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
14:34 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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14:54 TR News; "Medical equipment often makes for interesting teardown videos" https://hackaday.com/2022/12/18/medical-ultrasound-scanner-gives-up-its-secrets-runs-doom/ | Source: Hackaday
14:54 TR Bot; Ultrasound Scanner Gives Up Its Secrets, Runs DOOM | Hackaday
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14:57 TR News; Service Update gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202212191115.gmi
14:58 TR News; Setup a Mastodon instance on Fedora Server gemini://hyperreal.coffee/gemlog/2022-12-17-setup-mastodon-instance-on-fedora-server.gmi
14:59 TR News; How will the fediverse pay the bills when it is 10x bigger? gemini://smol.chorebuster.net/gemlog/2022-12-19-how-will-the-fediverse-pay-the-bills-when-it-is-10x-bigger.gmi
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14:59 TR News; SpellBinding: ABEIZTP Wordo: FLANK gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-12-19.gmi
15:00 TR News; Skill checks gemini://idiomdrottning.org/skill-checks
15:01 TR News; Auld Lang Syne gemini://linuxnerd.smol.pub/auldlangsyne
15:01 TR News; it was...the way it was? gemini://evenstar.smol.pub/1671444323
15:04 TR News; "MIT has been working on very thin solar cells made of a film just a few microns thick." https://hackaday.com/2022/12/18/solar-cell-fabric-makes-anything-solar/ | Source: Hackaday
15:04 TR Bot; Cell Fabric Makes Anything Solar | Hackaday
15:05 TR News; assange https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/12/18/us-justice-department-must-drop-charges-against-julian-assange | Source: Common Dreams
15:05 TR Bot; Opinion | The US Justice Department Must Drop Charges Against Julian Assange | Amy Goodman
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15:20 immibis; I hear that Pleroma is much less resource-intensive than Mastodon
15:20 immibis; while being basically the same
15:29 TR News; Links 19/12/2022: Twitter Exodus Gains Momentum, GnuCash 4.13 is Out | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/gnucash-4-13-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/19/gnucash-4-13-is-out/
15:29 TR Bot; Links 19/12/2022: Twitter Exodus Gains Momentum, GnuCash 4.13 is Out | Techrights
15:29 TR News; (NEW): Games: Liam Dawe Moving Away From Twitter, Super Mario 64 in DDNet, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Games_Liam_Dawe_Moving_Away_From_Twitter_Super_Mario_64_in_DDNe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Games_Liam_Dawe_Moving_Away_From_Twitter_Super_Mario_64_in_DDNe.gmi
15:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Liam Dawe Moving Away From Twitter, Super Mario 64 in DDNet, and More
15:30 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
15:30 TR News; (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
15:30 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi
15:30 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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16:51 geert; wb starstreak :))))
16:51 geert; ^^^ might not all be part of smile, some prolly rather resemble a bit chin :))))
16:52 geert; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eUdT1tziNtc
16:52 TR Bot; Het lied van het pierement - van LP - - Invidious
16:53 starstreak; :)
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17:32 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22121150
17:32 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/o98yk1zrfs4a1.jpg created on 2022-12-11 20:49:03.778415
17:53 MinceR; (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Loki-20180930-1-766525661
17:53 TR Bot; 20180930-1 by FurLined on DeviantArt
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18:45 -Scrooge/Wallops-After 18 months of hard work, the Guix team is pleased to announce version 1.4.0 of their distribution and package manager. Find out more with their release announcement at https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2022/gnu-guix-1.4.0-released/
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19:51 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
19:51 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
19:51 DaemonFC; A lot of people are giving up on crypto because it's in the dumps anyway and Biden's new tax law puts more reporting requirements on crypto.
19:51 DaemonFC; The only thing it's going to do now that crypto has had its day is increase compliance because they can take massive losses on it.
19:51 DaemonFC; For every $10 you had in some of these fake coins, you have $1 now and it's the problem of the American taxpayer.
19:52 DaemonFC; All the money the Inflation Reduction Act was suppose to raise is going away.
19:52 DaemonFC; Even Congress fell for SBF.
19:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
19:55 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
19:55 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
19:55 DaemonFC; The IRS is going to have as much of a nightmare as the American people are. There are going to be so many inaccurate tax returns next year because of the $600 bank reporting rule and the new crypto stuff that many people who mean well and think they got it right, actually won't.
19:55 DaemonFC; I can only surmise that tax laws are being written to help destroy crypto.
19:55 DaemonFC; Exchanges should be allowed to set up as banks and figure out the Dollar value when you spend it and the IRS should apply your income tax rate.
19:58 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
19:58 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
19:58 DaemonFC; When you think about Crypto, taxing it as income based on the value when you spend it makes a lot of sense.
19:58 DaemonFC; If you're an international business and you have American employees and you're headquartered in the EU, your American employees don't have to tell the IRS "Well, my boss is in Germany and he got some Euros. Each Euro has the dates as shown here and this is how long he held onto each one before he paid me. This is the date I acquired each check. Let's calculate Capital Gains.".
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20:04 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
20:04 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
20:04 DaemonFC; The IRS W-9 thing is actually good though.
20:04 DaemonFC; There's a lot of fraud involved in Crypto. To evade taxes, a lot of criminals have been going to the exchanges and "borrowing" TINs from people they stole them from and figuring the IRS will go after the other person.
20:04 DaemonFC; If the crypto exchange has to restrict their account if they can't come up with the W-9 data and a current driver's license, then this gets much harder.
20:07 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
20:07 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
20:07 DaemonFC; I don't think that the Brave browser will have an easy time continuing because they tied their stake to buzzword bullshit like Crypto, and they made a new token that's essentially driven by ads.
20:07 DaemonFC; Ads are valuable only if people are hot to buy what the advertisers are selling, otherwise they go away.
20:07 DaemonFC; Does Brave actually make any money?
20:07 DaemonFC; Even Google is not liking their quarterly figures and is having mass layoffs and Google makes money.
20:07 DaemonFC; The next time Brave needs to raise investor money....
20:16 *elusive_woman crushes up some adderol and inhales it through her nose
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20:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Do we know if Brave is laying off?
20:26 DaemonFC; The value of my BAT went from $11 to $1.
20:26 DaemonFC; I closed my account on the exchange while it was under $5 so they would just let me delete it without giving them my bank account.
20:32 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
20:32 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
20:32 DaemonFC; Uphold's behavior (making up random excuses why you can't have your money now and having people's entire account balance disappear in the night and never answering their emails about it) should tell you this is not regulated banking.
20:32 DaemonFC; Libertarians wanted the 1920s, and the 1920s they shall have.
20:32 DaemonFC; Bank runs, the people running the place running for the state line, so to speak, to go on the hide from the people they owe money to.
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20:55 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
20:55 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
20:55 DaemonFC; I don't get what the huge resource suck to get Firefox Sync to work with GNOME is all about when they obviously sabotage us to make sure they don't lose Firefox desktop users.
20:55 DaemonFC; (Think Musk's ban on linking to competitors of Twitter.)
20:55 DaemonFC; I keep asking about bookmark import/export as HTML and passwords as CSV, which is not only more sane, but it has to be easier to implement than trying to hack apart "Bakersoft's" Sync protocol.
20:55 DaemonFC; :)
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21:33 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:33 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:33 DaemonFC; Our immigration attorney manages to keep herself quite busy, even taking on pro bono cases sometimes through a legal aid clinic.
21:33 DaemonFC; USCIS is pretty much furious when they get petitions from immigrants that need legal assistance.
21:33 DaemonFC; But they let a guy who ran a porn studio in by flashing his bank account, then within two years he was facing rape, sex trafficking of minors, false imprisonment, etc.
21:33 DaemonFC; He escaped. We think he's in New Zealand but not really sure.
21:33 DaemonFC; Trump's system let those people in.
21:35 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:35 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:35 DaemonFC; Trump's major hurdle that he wanted to add to the Immigration system was a "wealth test" called the I-944.
21:35 DaemonFC; It went on and on and forced you to prove you had a lot of money and earnings potential.
21:35 DaemonFC; So the truth of the matter is that they don't care if you're a monster like Michael Pratt, because he was out buying BMWs and Rolex watches and could fill out the I-944, but all other immigrants are "criminals or at least future criminals" based on status (bank account balance).
21:43 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:43 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:43 DaemonFC; Trump's damage will be felt for years.
21:43 DaemonFC; Under the I-944, people were going hungry, afraid to ask for a little food for their children, some were even avoiding their COVID vaccines or medical treatment if they got it because they were worried what USCIS would think.
21:43 DaemonFC; Yes, Trump murdered people with the I-944, and at the absolute best he doesn't care that he did.
21:45 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:45 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:45 DaemonFC; The biggest reforms we need to make to the Immigration system are to ensure better conditions at the detention centers than "people in cages sleeping under space blankets, getting raped by the guards, and eating prison food", funding for twice as many judges, and a guarantee of a public defender in deportation cases.
21:45 DaemonFC; It's never going to happen as long as people like Manchin and Sinema are in the Senate.
21:51 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:51 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:51 DaemonFC; The US Federal Government contracts with "prison companies" to run Immigration detention centers and a federal program that most people don't know about called Job Corps.
21:51 DaemonFC; Job Corps was created under JFK to provide vocational training to low income youth.
21:51 DaemonFC; In theory, you go there between 16-24 and get room + board, help earning GED, as much vocational training as you want, food, a cash stipend.
21:51 DaemonFC; But the courts dump offenders there, and it turns into a brawl with rape gangs roaming around.
21:51 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:51 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:51 DaemonFC; Since Job Corps is such an awful place, most people don't actually achieve much there, don't get placed into anything like what they studied, and the companies flat out lie and say people "graduated" and hand you a couple thousand dollars so you won't talk about it to the feds either.
21:51 DaemonFC; So the system rolls on all for the profit of GEO Group and Corrections Corporation of America.
21:53 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
21:53 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
21:53 DaemonFC; For less than what the Feds pay to run the failed Job Corps program, they could just start paying people's tuition at a two year community college program and they'd save money and wouldn't have criminals roaming around beating up and raping the few that are trying to learn.
21:53 DaemonFC; Most people don't know this problem exists, so they don't know how it could be solved.
22:03 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:03 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:03 DaemonFC; I watched through all 7 seasons of Star Trek DS9 while I was sick.
22:03 DaemonFC; God knows why.
22:03 DaemonFC; I think it has the usual lackluster stories, uninspired scripts, plodding along, and mind numbing storylines most Trek suffers from, with the occasional good episode.
22:03 DaemonFC; The best character was Odo, and the best episode was The Magnificent Ferengi.
22:03 DaemonFC; Of course I could just be biased because my personality type is much like Odo's or Yelgrun's (Iggy Pop's Vorta).
22:03 DaemonFC; I do like The Orville better, especially lately.
22:03 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:03 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:03 DaemonFC; Criticizing Trek ends up causing a Holy War.
22:03 DaemonFC; I mean, it was groundbreaking stuff in the 60s. Voyager and most of TNG were kind of okay.
22:03 DaemonFC; I think DS9 was probably their weakest, and a lot of this was that they stole everything that wasn't nailed down from JMS's Babylon 5 pitch, and even some B5 episodes and story arcs and grafted Star Trek over top of it.
22:03 DaemonFC; B5's better in every way except that Warner Bros wouldn't give them the per-episode budget that DS9 got, so "production value".
22:05 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:05 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:05 DaemonFC; I used Discord briefly. I got banned from a "server" from observations on DS9 when it "triggered" a moderator.
22:05 DaemonFC; DS9 is sort of the 6000 SUX from Robocop version of Babylon 5.
22:05 DaemonFC; Underneath it all, they used a Pontiac, but then they grafted all this stuff on it that turned it into a parody of 80s excess.
22:08 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:08 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:08 DaemonFC; I think part of the reason the economy is fizzling out is because everything the rich have used as status symbols in the past is now everywhere and unlimited.
22:08 DaemonFC; MP3 turned music into an anarchist's dream because it meant unlimited copies for free of stuff that you used to have to queue up at the record store to unload 10 hours of minimum wage to buy.
22:08 DaemonFC; Remember Kevin Spacey in American Beauty reminiscing about working all week flipping burgers in high school to buy one Pink Floyd album?
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22:12 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:12 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:12 DaemonFC; This "economy of digital goods" doesn't work if nobody agrees to play.
22:12 DaemonFC; "The rent is too damned high" so it's sparked a demand for file lockers, VPNs, Free and Open Source Software, and a new class of small computers that are "good enough".
22:12 DaemonFC; Microsoft and Apple are playing with fire.
22:12 DaemonFC; In a dead economy, GNU/Linux (which doesn't demand much) on the next Pine Tab (8 GB/256GB) could be a disruptive and democratizing technology.
22:12 DaemonFC; PC users of the world, Unite! You have nothing to lose but your TPMs!
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:20 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:20 DaemonFC; When I was at my cousin's house, I noticed her husband and their son were gaming on Linux (former Windows laptop).
22:20 DaemonFC; I got to talking about Pop_OS! (what it ended up being) and Fedora (what I use at home).
22:20 DaemonFC; He says, "Yeah, it came with Windows 10, but man did it run like shit."
22:20 DaemonFC; I said, "Looks fairly new.".
22:20 DaemonFC; "Yeah."
22:20 DaemonFC; I said, "I bought a Tiger Lake i7 laptop late 2020, had the same problem. Jank. Not with Linux."
22:20 DaemonFC; Got in the car, told mom he was smarter than I thought. He never talks much.
22:20 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:20 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:20 DaemonFC; I don't know how anything has jank on a quad core with hyperthreading that can come close to 4 Ghz, and managed to double the performance of the SSD and graphics hardware vs. my 2016 PC, but Windows still managed.
22:20 DaemonFC; So that was awful.
22:20 DaemonFC; The worst thing about buying hardware, by far, that just hit the market, is plodding along somehow with Windows for a few months until enablement starts hitting the mainline Linux kernel.
22:20 DaemonFC; But oh, that day when you can shout "GARBAAAAAGE! and toss it out.
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; <DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], Do we know if Brave is laying off?
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; you might not hear about it
22:21 DaemonFC; Private company?
22:21 schestowitz[TR]; not public companyy
22:22 TR News; (NEW): #HowTo Get Xfce 4.18 in Xubuntu 22.04 and 22.10 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/How_to_Get_Xfce_4_18_in_Xubuntu_22_04_and_22_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/How_to_Get_Xfce_4_18_in_Xubuntu_22_04_and_22_10.gmi
22:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines How to Get Xfce 4.18 in Xubuntu 22.04 and 22.10
22:22 TR News; (NEW): Stable Kernels: Linux 6.0.14, Linux 5.15.84, Linux 5.10.160, and Linux 5.4.228 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Stable_Kernels_Linux_6_0_14_Linux_5_15_84_Linux_5_10_160_and_Li.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Stable_Kernels_Linux_6_0_14_Linux_5_15_84_Linux_5_10_160_and_Li.gmi
22:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Stable Kernels: Linux 6.0.14, Linux 5.15.84, Linux 5.10.160, and Linux 5.4.228
22:23 TR News; (NEW): Mobile Linux distro postmarketOS 22.12 brings Fairphone 4 and Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Mobile_Linux_distro_postmarketOS_22_12_brings_Fairphone_4_and_S.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Mobile_Linux_distro_postmarketOS_22_12_brings_Fairphone_4_and_S.gmi
22:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Mobile Linux distro postmarketOS 22.12 brings Fairphone 4 and Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 support
22:23 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
22:23 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
22:24 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:24 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:24 DaemonFC; The DT_HASH vs. DT_GNU_HASH thing was fun for a few minutes.
22:24 DaemonFC; It didn't end up affecting me at all because I don't use anything that is proprietary and can't be adapted quickly, but it affected some anti-cheat games.
22:24 DaemonFC; Windows actually changes the way APIs work between releases and doesn't document it.
22:24 DaemonFC; Part of Telemetry is about assessing what's out there, and if nothing people run hits an API, it gets changed or dropped sometimes.
22:24 DaemonFC; But they have this granular data on you that lets them do it.
22:29 DaemonFC; https://abc7chicago.com/twitter-ceo-elon-musk-poll-stepping-down-news/12590052/
22:29 TR Bot; Is Elon Musk stepping down? Twitter CEO poll ends with users seeking his departure - ABC7 Chicago
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; turns out he cannot run a company
22:31 schestowitz[TR]; pay attention, tesla shareholders
22:33 DaemonFC; Lots of money for self-humiliation.
22:33 DaemonFC; I wonder how long I need to leave that watch in sunlight in the window to get to "H".
22:34 DaemonFC; It has three power icons. H, M, and L. It's at M right now. All watch functions enabled, and over 50% charged.
22:34 TR News; "Corporate/company-wide subscriptions and other options can be made available by contacting me." https://www.phoronix.com/news/Phoronix-Premium-Xmas-22-Sale see http://techrights.org/2022/09/16/landing-big-cash-on-phoronix/
22:34 TR Bot; Premium 2022 Christmas Deal For Enjoying Ad-Free Access, Single Page Articles - Phoronix
22:34 TR Bot; Passing Corporate Money Instead of Just Gifts | Techrights
22:34 DaemonFC; But it takes a long time to get it to H apparently, and the manual says to expect that.
22:34 DaemonFC; L kicks in at Levels 3, 4, and 5.
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22:35 DaemonFC; It starts disabling features at L3 that hog power and when the watch is critically low, the second hand starts jumping in 2 second intervals to show that you REALLY need to charge it before it dies and you have to reset everything, including the calendar.
22:35 TR News; Linux bastardised by Microsoft https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/12/19/linux-6-2-exfat-update-to-improve-performance-when-creating-files-and-directories/
22:35 TR Bot; Linux 6.2 exFAT update to improve performance when creating files and directories - CNX Software
22:36 DaemonFC; 20-30 minutes in the window depending on cloudiness outside is usually enough power to run the watch for 24 hours.
22:37 DaemonFC; I've left it in the window for the 8 hours of indirect light we've gotten for each of the last two days.
22:37 DaemonFC; So that should have added enough power for normal operations for a month.
22:37 DaemonFC; Give or take.
22:38 DaemonFC; At 100%, the watch can run in total darkness with no additional charge for 9 months according to the manual.
22:41 TR News; Conflating Linux with Linux Foundation https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/linux-amazon-meta-microsoft-tomtom-challenge-google-maps-mapping-service-overture/article66281138.ece see http://techrights.org/2022/12/18/alliance-of-monopolists/
22:41 TR Bot; Linux, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, to challenge Google with their new mapping services - The Hindu
22:41 TR Bot; Linux Foundation: Monopolies Versus Monopolies, Always at the Expense of Communities of Volunteers | Techrights
22:41 DaemonFC; The manual warns that auto backlight is a power hog and to be careful with it.
22:42 DaemonFC; I just set it to 3 seconds when I push the button. Default of 1.5 is too quick to look at the time.
22:42 TR News; (NEW): GNU Guix 1.4.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/GNU_Guix_1_4_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/GNU_Guix_1_4_0_released.gmi
22:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU Guix 1.4.0 released
22:43 TR News; EndeavourOS Cassini Release Brings Linux Kernel 6.0, Pinebook Pro Support, and New Bootloader Options - 9to5Linux https://9to5linux.com/endeavouros-cassini-release-brings-linux-kernel-6-0-pinebook-pro-support-and-new-bootloader-options Source: 9to5Linux
22:43 TR Bot; Cassini Release Brings Linux Kernel 6.0, Pinebook Pro Support, and New Bootloader Options - 9to5Linux
22:45 TR News; Linux...on a tablet? It might just work | TechRadar http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/16/The_PineTab2_Is_a_New_Linux_Tablet_Coming_in_2023.shtml
22:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines The PineTab2 Is a New Linux Tablet, Coming in 2023 (UPDATED)
22:48 DaemonFC; I hope Stouffer's didn't ruin their chicken lasagna.
22:49 TR News; DebugPoint Weekly Newsletter #22.15: Plasma Fractional Scaling, FreeBSD 12.4 + More https://debugpointnews.com/weekly-newsletter-22-15/
22:49 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://debugpointnews.com/weekly-newsletter-22-15/ )
22:49 DaemonFC; I have a big frozen one that I'm cooking tonight. They ruined their stuffed peppers, but the salisbury steaks are still alright.
22:49 TR News; (UPDATED): The PineTab2 Is a New Linux Tablet, Coming in 2023 (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/16/The_PineTab2_Is_a_New_Linux_Tablet_Coming_in_2023.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/16/The_PineTab2_Is_a_New_Linux_Tablet_Coming_in_2023.gmi
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22:49 TR News; (UPDATED): The Wine development release 8.0-rc1 is now available. (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/10/The_Wine_development_release_8_0_rc1_is_now_available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/10/The_Wine_development_release_8_0_rc1_is_now_available.gmi
22:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines The Wine development release 8.0-rc1 is now available. (UPDATED)
22:50 TR News; Epic and NVIDIA continue to suck... plus other Steam Deck news - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EmIq8F9OjQY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/EmIq8F9OjQY
22:50 TR Bot; Epic and NVIDIA continue to suck... plus other Steam Deck news - Invidious
22:51 TR News; Linux User Space: Episode 3:13: The Gift of Feedback https://www.linuxuserspace.show/313 | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxuserspace.show/313
22:51 TR Bot; Linux User Space: Episode 3:13: The Gift of Feedback
22:52 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:52 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
22:52 DaemonFC; It surprises me how shitty Buick customer service is when you have a 2008 Buick and roll up to the dealership and offer to pay them to diagnose and fix it.
22:52 DaemonFC; They either have no idea what's wrong, say they have nobody around that remembers how to work on it, don't make that part anymore, etc.
22:52 DaemonFC; About the only things that they can do are fluid changes, filters, and transmission servicing.
22:52 DaemonFC; The only shop that can get parts and knows how to fix it is the local Car-X. :P
22:52 TR News; LINUX Unplugged 489 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linux-unplugged/489/
22:52 TR Bot; Brent's Secret Emails | LINUX Unplugged 489 | Jupiter Broadcasting
22:53 TR News; " A vector for phishing attacks and malware. Your non-technical family members and friends will likely fall for these at some point. For their sake, disable them." https://www.lloydatkinson.net/posts/2022/consider-disabling-browser-push-notifications-on-family-and-friends-devices/
22:53 TR Bot; Consider Disabling Browser Push Notifications on Family and Friends Devices - Lloyd Atkinson
22:54 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
22:54 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC@mstdn.social
22:54 DaemonFC; It turns out that there are actually usually plenty of parts for a 2008 Buick, and the Buick dealer could use them if they wanted to.
22:54 DaemonFC; Delco still makes a lot of them, but there's a huge aftermarket (a lot of them are a universal fit for a Chevy Impala of that era too) so I'm usually not in trouble.
22:54 DaemonFC; Obviously nobody is making new Delco stereos and steering wheel PACs, so when those shorted out, I drove to Best Buy and got a Sony.
22:54 DaemonFC; They make good stereos.
22:54 DaemonFC; Little sad about losing MeTV FM though.
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:01 TR News; When a watch company promoted the revolutionary calendar gemini://idiomdrottning.org/beat-time
23:02 TR News; Part 4: How about CFLAGS and friends? env/VAR, default.run.do gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20221219-redo-4.gmi
23:02 TR News; Part 3: How about CFLAGS and friends? config.sh and compile.do gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20221219-redo-3.gmi
23:04 TR News; "Well there is no way around this, but now that I fixed my atom feed once and for all by writing my own script to generate it, I have to submit it to Antenna one last time for processing" gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202212192156.gmi
23:05 TR News; 2022 Week 46/47/48/49/50: Thoughts and Photos gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202212/20221219-2022-week-46-47-48-49-50-thoughts-and-photos.gmi
23:05 TR News; About Twitter, Mastodon and social media gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1231
23:05 TR News; User Agent And ACPI gemini://thrig.me/blog/2022/12/19/user-agent-and-ACPI.gmi
23:08 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
23:08 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
23:08 DaemonFC; The widespread acceptance of DRM with Apple customers must be like phantom limb syndrome or something.
23:08 DaemonFC; They always had the "one copy and it cost a lot of money" thing when they had books and CDs, so surely digital files are meant to be that way as well.
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; branding power
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; you cannot "Scold" apple
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; the group might tell you off
23:11 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
23:11 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
23:11 DaemonFC; The author I probably read the most when I was a child was probably Piers Anthony, actually.
23:11 DaemonFC; I always appreciated that the Xanth series was full of puns.
23:11 DaemonFC; Anyway, it's nice to see that the Censor Ship finally docked (with Docker?) at Twitter and that the users are quite incensed with it all.
23:11 DaemonFC; mjg59_ was choked by the incense from the Censor Ship.
23:11 DaemonFC; Hey, maybe that's a kink
23:13 XRevan86; https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/19/7381453/
23:13 TR Bot; State Emergency Service of Ukraine explains how Head of Polish police ended up with grenade launcher that exploded | Ukrainska Pravda
23:14 DaemonFC; Ryan Farmer-Alcaraz
23:14 DaemonFC; @DaemonFC
23:14 DaemonFC; Companions of Xanth wasn't a terribly good DOS game (it probably still floats around on some abandonware site).
23:14 DaemonFC; The bookstore carried it and it was only a dollar more than the copy of Demons Don't Dream that it came with, so I just went ahead and bought it.
23:14 DaemonFC; The game's first disappointment (and definitely not the last) was that if you don't choose Nada Naga, then the other three Companions get you killed somehow right away.
23:18 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-18.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-12-19.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 TR News; (NEW): EndeavourOS Cassini Is Here http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/EndeavourOS_Cassini_Is_Here.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/EndeavourOS_Cassini_Is_Here.gmi
23:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines EndeavourOS Cassini Is Here
23:21 TR News; Fake, corrupt 'review': "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by Icecream Apps." Phil South doing corporate spam https://www.maketecheasier.com/icecream-video-converter-review/
23:21 TR Bot; Icecream Video Converter Review - Make Tech Easier
23:22 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights
23:23 TR News; "Distrotube challenged me and the rest of the Linux community to a rap battle so there's only 1 thing to do. I have to respond to show the old man what I can do." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kv8QF_Bduhg
23:23 TR Bot; Distrotube Went Too Far This Time!! - Linux Rap Battle - Invidious
23:23 XRevan86; https://businessinsider.com/musk-spotted-pro-putin-russian-tv-presenter-world-cup-2022-12
23:23 TR Bot; Elon Musk Spotted With Pro-Putin Russian TV Presenter at World Cup
23:24 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/ACF_int/status/1604819540734803973
23:24 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://nitter.it/ACF_int/status/1604819540734803973 )
23:27 TR News; (NEW): Videos: Rap, LINUX Unplugged, Linux User Space, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Videos_Rap_LINUX_Unplugged_Linux_User_Space_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/Videos_Rap_LINUX_Unplugged_Linux_User_Space_and_More.gmi
23:27 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos: Rap, LINUX Unplugged, Linux User Space, and More
23:27 TR News; revisiting my inital thoughts on stable diffusion's datase gemini://sol.cities.yesterweb.org/blog/20221219.gmi
23:34 TR News; Canonical is acting as if it is already owned by Microsoft; this is the second time in one day https://ubuntu.com//blog/benefits-chiselled-ubuntu-images-aspnet-eshop-demo
23:34 TR Bot; for yourself: the benefits of chiselled Ubuntu images in action with an ASP.NET shop demo | Ubuntu
23:35 TR News; Then there are ICMBers shilling WSL instead of GNU/Linux https://avi.alkalay.net/2022/12/windows-command-line.html
23:35 TR Bot; Command Line in Windows Avi Alkalay
23:38 TR News; IFF releases the third edition of the Connectivity Tracker #MapTheDigitalDivide https://internetfreedom.in/third-edition-of-the-connectivity-tracker-mapthedigitaldivide/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/third-edition-of-the-connectivity-tracker-mapthedigitaldivide/
23:38 TR Bot; IFF releases the third edition of the Connectivity Tracker #MapTheDigitalDivide
23:40 TR News; Watch: Ukraine Army Video Tells Russians How to Surrender to a Drone https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-army-video-tells-russians-how-to-surrender-to-drone-2022-12?r=US&IR=T Source: Business Insider | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-army-video-tells-russians-how-to-surrender-to-drone-2022-12?r=US&IR=T
23:40 TR Bot; Watch: Ukraine Army Video Tells Russians How to Surrender to a Drone
23:49 TR News; Canonical Working for Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/12/19/canonical-working-for-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/19/canonical-working-for-microsoft/
23:49 TR Bot; Canonical Working for Microsoft | Techrights
23:52 TR News; How to install DataGrip on KDE Neon - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=B4deRmIwoqw | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/B4deRmIwoqw
23:52 TR Bot; How to install DataGrip on KDE Neon - Invidious
23:52 TR News; (NEW): [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Beryllium Official ISOs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/_STABLE_RELEASE_BunsenLabs_Beryllium_Official_ISOs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/12/19/_STABLE_RELEASE_BunsenLabs_Beryllium_Official_ISOs.gmi
23:52 TR Bot; Tux Machines [STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Beryllium Official ISOs
23:54 TR News; This is proprietary spyware of Microsoft; developers should shun it if they care for the future of GNU/Linux https://idroot.us/install-visual-studio-code-fedora-37/
23:54 TR Bot; How To Install Visual Studio Code on Fedora 37 - idroot
23:56 TR News; Sponsored crap or ramble? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWmcSYAkXlk
23:56 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=TWmcSYAkXlk
23:56 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | I like a keyboard, its not even mechanical! (A ramble) - Invidious
23:59 TR News; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 9 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-9 Source: Godot Engine | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-beta-9
23:59 TR Bot; Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 beta 9
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