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00:00 DaemonFC; Life is nasty.
00:00 DaemonFC; Don't draw attention to yourself.
00:00 schestowitz[TR]; Life or society?
00:00 DaemonFC; Eh, both really.
00:01 schestowitz[TR]; there's life beyond humans
00:01 techuser; horseface thinks I should marry her
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00:01 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: you are both too young
00:01 techuser; probably true
00:02 techuser; also incompatible, at least for now
00:02 techuser; she wants children, while I don't
00:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I don't know about the landlord honestly.
00:02 DaemonFC; That was a bit jarring to see my apartment listed in the middle of my lease.
00:02 DaemonFC; But a fuck up is the more logical explanation.
00:02 DaemonFC; They had no legal rights to make us leave at that point even if they wanted to.
00:03 DaemonFC; The lease doesn't end until November.
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: because of age
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; the desire for children will fade away after 30
00:03 schestowitz[TR]; the world is already above carrying capacity
00:03 DaemonFC; Oh, but they try to go to work on you anyway.
00:03 DaemonFC; Guilt tripping you for not having kids.
00:04 DaemonFC; They use things like "failure" and "genetic dead end".
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00:04 DaemonFC; They write entire articles about it.
00:04 DaemonFC; Capitalists do.
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00:04 schestowitz[TR]; making kids is like installing drupal, I said to myself today (a shower thought)
00:04 schestowitz[TR]; you can install it in one hour or less)
00:05 DaemonFC; Religion is not big on the idea of not having children either. They call it "barrenness".
00:05 DaemonFC; Like a field that won't grow anything.
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; then you need to spend the next 20 off years maintaining tghe darn thing
00:05 DaemonFC; Useless!
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; ddos, patches, OS upgrades, backups...
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; a mountain of debt
00:05 DaemonFC; It's a mistake that only takes an hour to commit yourself to!
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; for that 30 minutes installing drupalk
00:05 schestowitz[TR]; **drupal
00:06 schestowitz[TR]; (or wordpress)
00:06 DaemonFC; Yeah, well, we haven't been let off the hook either, schestowitz[TR]
00:06 DaemonFC; STDs, HIV.
00:06 DaemonFC; I mean, gays try to say HIV is no big deal now.
00:06 DaemonFC; It's not "sex positive" to say anything about people with HIV.
00:07 DaemonFC; Even though they all pretty much live on the charity of others somehow.
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; what's "sex positive"?
00:07 DaemonFC; Whether it's causing other people in their insurance pool to foot the bill, or a federal program.
00:07 schestowitz[TR]; HIV+
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00:07 DaemonFC; <schestowitz[TR]> what's "sex positive"?
00:07 sebseb; hi
00:08 DaemonFC; This crazy term they've made up to describe anyone that's not whoring themselves around who will get something eventually.
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00:08 DaemonFC; You know, "Hey, wear a rubber! There's some bad stuff out there!".
00:08 DaemonFC; Them: "Quit being such a Debbie Downer! You're not being SEX POSITIVE at all!"
00:09 DaemonFC; "You want to SHOVE US BACK INTO THE CLOSET!!!!!!"
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; meh
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; what next? HIB parades?
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; *HIV
00:09 DaemonFC; Those are a thing.
00:09 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, hetero can be promiscuous
00:10 DaemonFC; Nobody should really want a disease that, at best, means $50,000 a year worth of medication and doctor visits while they develop osteoporosis, kidney disease, and hair loss from the medicine.
00:10 DaemonFC; I can tell by looking at someone in particular that this has been going on for at least 6-8 years.
00:11 horseface; HAHA
00:11 DaemonFC; But I'm not even going to embarrass them by saying who.
00:11 horseface; yes...
00:11 horseface; techuser, you should!!!
00:11 horseface; it would be ADORABLE!!!
00:11 horseface; and she is HOT AS FUCK!!!
00:11 horseface; omg!!!
00:11 horseface; rofl!!!
00:11 horseface; ;-)
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; become a dad at 18 is not making life simpler
00:12 schestowitz[TR]; esp. not for the kid/s
00:12 DaemonFC; Plus, the stupid stinking government can out you as being HIV+.
00:12 DaemonFC; The government was sending mail to the person who last lived at one of my addresses in Chicago about his HIV status.
00:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], What a lovely day for America and what a lovely day for Capitalism!
00:14 DaemonFC; A 15 year old accidentally gets pregnant! Life ruined! Clinging to welfare and Taco Bell paychecks!
00:14 DaemonFC; You can't ever revolt if your next meal is coming from the government while they keep everyone else so broke from paying for you that they can't gain any ground either.
00:15 DaemonFC; Food stamps are a form of social control for both the person getting them and the people paying taxes.
00:15 DaemonFC; It's all about control. The government has no need to do good things or do popular things.
00:15 DaemonFC; They want most people at the very brink so they won't make a fuss.
00:16 DaemonFC; Then you can't accumulate a power base and resist them.
00:16 DaemonFC; It's all very simple, you know.
00:17 DaemonFC; They don't want people to know how to grow a vegetable garden.
00:17 DaemonFC; So they make that illegal too.
00:17 DaemonFC; Mandy's friend at Walmart has a garden in her back yard. If the city found out, she could be in a lot of trouble for that.
00:18 DaemonFC; The only reason they don't know is because there's a big privacy fence and nobody next door cares.
00:18 DaemonFC; But the city would make her rip her own vegetables out of her own garden, dump the rain buckets out, and pay a very large fine.
00:19 DaemonFC; There's a reason for that.
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00:19 DaemonFC; If they make it illegal to feed yourself, even just a little, you have to buy more.
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00:19 TR News; (New Entry): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
00:19 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers"
00:20 TR News; (New Entry): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi
00:20 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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00:20 DaemonFC; Then they use all sorts of excuses to legitimize this brutality. They'll say "If we didn't do this, next thing you know that woman will be raising chickens back there!".
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00:20 DaemonFC; Even if there are no chickens. It just makes a good argument, they suppose. They don't really care if you agree or not.
00:20 DaemonFC; You have no choice over who runs this place anyway.
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; the chicken would be better off their than in industrial farms
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; usually quite 'free range'
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; unless you run a chicken/egg factory at home
00:21 schestowitz[TR]; which few would do
00:21 DaemonFC; It's not a bad idea, but yeah, totally illegal.
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00:22 DaemonFC; I mean, but they'd basically flog this poor woman in public square over growing some okra, a few stalks of corn, some eggplants, some peppers.....
00:22 DaemonFC; All to make a point, and the point is this. "You are not in control of your life. We are.".
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00:22 DaemonFC; And if it still doesn't come through loudly and clearly, they'll come out and beat you up and arrest you too.
00:22 DaemonFC; :)
00:23 DaemonFC; I wouldn't say the conditions in the US are much better than they are in Russia, but that's a guess. I think that the US government puts a better angle on it.
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00:24 DaemonFC; There's always a reason, you know. And the Russian story about an errant cigarette causing three days of explosions in their base in Crimea is more ludicrous than what ours tells you!
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00:26 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Tell Comrade Pootie Poot to be more careful where he stores that ammunition. Any old Russian soldier could toss a and you'll lose another heavily fortified base.
00:26 DaemonFC; Those things really did kill more Russians than Stalin.
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00:29 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Don't count out
00:29 XRevan86; also quite vile
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00:31 DaemonFC; MinceR, I used to laugh at how cartoonishly stupid the Russians in Stargate SG-1 were.
00:31 DaemonFC; Like every time they opened the gate, they caused a disaster they couldn't possibly fix and then their solution is to just nerve gas everyone, which doesn't even work.
00:31 XRevan86; DaemonFC: In Russia/Ukraine there's a similiar controversy, as a big reviewer BadComedian used to laugh at the cartoony Russians in films as well.
00:31 DaemonFC; But that was actually some good writing. If the Russians found a Stargate somewhere, this is what would happen.
00:31 XRevan86; And it's not funny anymore.
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00:34 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> And it's not funny anymore.
00:35 DaemonFC; The United States was changed in a massive way from the defeat in Vietnam, right?
00:35 DaemonFC; And it took like 20 years to lose as many of our soldiers as Russia has in Ukraine since February.
00:35 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I think ye're leading to that this war is going to be a delayed massive shock.
00:36 DaemonFC; But I think the difference here is that disasters on the scale of the Vietnam War could conceivably change which candidates could even make it to a general election and Russians don't really have candidates.
00:36 DaemonFC; So it doesn't matter what kind of a meat grinder they're sending their people to die in.
00:37 DaemonFC; It just goes on and on as the loss of people and material drives the economy further and further down the shitter.
00:38 DaemonFC; Massive and sudden loss of population and huge military spending just to have the things that were built blow up isn't really good for an economy.
00:38 DaemonFC; The US emerged from World War II due to luck of geography.
00:38 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Sometimes I think that if this goes on long enough it might end in a Treaty of Brest-Litovsk.
00:39 DaemonFC; It was really beyond the Germans and the Japanese to launch any real effective sustained invasion or bombing campaigns on the US mainland.
00:39 DaemonFC; So we came out of it relatively untouched.
00:40 DaemonFC; The closest thing to an invasion either of them got to the US was occupying a few remote islands in Alaska for a while that were uninhabited anyway and freezing their asses off there.
00:41 DaemonFC; They might as well have landed in Antarctica for the effect it caused.
00:42 XRevan86; DaemonFC: A peculiar aspect of this war that should be taken into account is that the war itself is practically invisible from Moscow.
00:42 DaemonFC; Putin has succeeded in demonstrating just how incapable the Russians are at conducting war.
00:42 XRevan86; The sactions are, the war isn't.
00:42 DaemonFC; Can't even do well against a neighbor. They outrun their own supplies. They're undisciplined.
00:42 XRevan86; So the illusion of normalcy is not quite broken in the capital.
00:43 XRevan86; The fodder is also almost universally from the regions.
00:43 DaemonFC; There's obviously a reason why you would do this.
00:44 DaemonFC; Avoid pissing off the people who are close enough to kill him.
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00:46 DaemonFC; My guess is he's also directing a lot of spending towards that area at the expense of taxation elsewhere.
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00:47 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo-Soyuz_(cigarette)
00:47 TR Bot; Apollo-Soyuz (cigarette) - Wikipedia
00:47 DaemonFC; 9 or 10 rubles per pack?
00:47 DaemonFC; Wow!
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00:47 DaemonFC; They obviously don't want people not to smoke.
00:49 DaemonFC; Of course, that was 20 years ago.
00:49 DaemonFC; Cigarettes are like $14-15 a pack here, for the ones with an actual brand on them.
00:49 DaemonFC; They have all sorts of things for poor people to choke on that cost less.
00:50 DaemonFC; But I doubt you'll do much better than $7-8 unless you go to some other state to buy them.
00:50 DaemonFC; It's actually a federal crime to have more than a certain number of cigarettes with an out of state tax stamp on them. They do that to try to slow down cigaratte trafficking.
00:52 DaemonFC; Like, if you're in Illinois, you can have unlimited cigarettes with an Illinois tax stamp, but I think the limit for an out of state stamp is 2,000 total cigarettes if you get caught with them in another state (federal, although that state could also make it a state crime to possess fewer than that).
00:52 DaemonFC; 20 cigarettes a pack, 10 packs per carton. So you break the federal law at 10 cartons of cigerettes.
00:53 DaemonFC; You need to make sure you have less than 9 cartons, 9 packs, and 19 cigarettes or you've broken a federal law. And it's a felony, so have fun with that.
00:54 DaemonFC; They could actually call the DEA in and have them bust you and parade you around in federal court if you filled the whole trunk up with cheap packs of Marlboros from Kentucky or Missouri and get pulled over in Illinois.
00:55 DaemonFC; https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-544806763-1415891865&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:114:section:2342
00:55 TR Bot; Definition: contraband cigarettes from 18 USC 2341(2) | LII / Legal Information Institute
00:56 DaemonFC; Ah, okay, it's 10,000 cigarettes and the feds have you.
00:56 DaemonFC; So that's considerably more.
00:56 DaemonFC; That's 50 cartons.
00:56 DaemonFC; Presumably, Illinois law has something worse at a lower level.
00:57 DaemonFC; https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2344
00:57 TR Bot; 18 U.S. Code 2344 - Penalties | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute
00:58 DaemonFC; Federal law says if you possess 50 cartons of out of state cigarettes, you may be sentenced to up to 5 years in prison and/or pay a fine.
00:58 DaemonFC; Eh, fines and court costs alone will probably be $20,000 or more.
00:59 DaemonFC; Plus the cost of paying for them to beat you over the head with your own punishment. Pretty standard really. /Dr. Evil voice
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:02 DaemonFC; https://www.justice.gov/usao-edwi/pr/illinois-men-sentenced-trafficking-contraband-cigarettes
01:02 TR Bot; Illinois Men sentenced For Trafficking Contraband Cigarettes | USAO-EDWI | Department of Justice
01:03 DaemonFC; "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives initiated the year-long investigation into this activity based upon a complaint from a local citizen who alleged that his business was being financially undercut by persons who were dealing in untaxed tobacco products. The investigation included an undercover warehouse in Milwaukee and an undercover agent posing as a source for untaxed cigarettes. Video recordings showed the defendants
01:03 DaemonFC; purchasing cases of untaxed cigarettes with cash that was sometimes brought in shopping bags. The warehouse was devoid of accoutrements normally associated with a legitimate business, and the videos showed the defendants themselves loading the contraband cigarettes into their respective vehicles. The cigarettes were purchased at a cost that was substantially below that of an authorized manufacturer, and transported the cigarettes into Illinois
01:03 DaemonFC; where they were further disbursed."
01:04 DaemonFC; So what got them was that it was at such a scale that they were noticed and the feds planted an undercover agent in their ranks.
01:05 DaemonFC; There's men on the L selling loose cigarettes. I don't know who buys random cigarettes out of an open container from some guy on the L.
01:05 DaemonFC; They also tend to have bootleg DVDs.
01:11 DaemonFC; XRevan86, It does seem like Russians are some other species. No wonder the term now is "Orcs".
01:11 DaemonFC; "Oh the last 50,000 we sent in died horribly? Send 50,000 more. Put up posters that say 'Looking for a job for REAL MEN?' or some shit. That'll work, right?"
01:12 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me
01:13 XRevan86; (alluding to Shrek)
01:13 DaemonFC; Japan doesn't have the resources to commit to this sort of "horde" strategy so it wouldn't work, which is kind of why the Russians have those islands they took in the 1940s.
01:14 DaemonFC; Unless you want to take great-grandma and give her a machine gun and some grenades and tell her to go get em back, what are you going to do?
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01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/18/far-right-illinois-gubernatorial-candidate-darren-bailey-blames-high-gas-prices-for-low-rally-turnout-one-attendee-was-a-january-6th-rioter/
01:59 TR Bot; Far-right Illinois Gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey blames high gas prices for low rally turnout. One attendee was a January 6th rioter. | BaronHK's Rants
02:05 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1560067938337652739
02:05 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russia's top propagandist Vladimir Solovyov, twice honored by Putin for his "service to the Fatherland," threatens the US & Europe with nuclear war if they defend the Baltics from Russia. Solovyov's bombast falls flat when he asks for 100k North Koreans to help Russia in Ukraine."|nitter.it
02:06 DaemonFC; https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/297881572_2623817021107990_497995910222615784_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=qtrLMgmraHYAX-2XxkB&tn=UndYO5-j7WtqJGpX&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT93vwiB7jkIS3Bp1tImCW6dH9CVtSM518lAeOFhs-Sp9w&oe=6302A358
02:07 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Kim can trade them for Steam credits.
02:08 DaemonFC; I wonder what the actual plan is though. They'll all try to defect to Ukraine, even faster than the Russian conscripts do.
02:08 DaemonFC; Is the plan to give Europe an immigrant crisis starting with Ukraine?
02:09 XRevan86; DaemonFC: The answer is technically "yes" :).
02:09 XRevan86; even if not in this particular way
02:11 DaemonFC; https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-employees-leaked-internal-credentials-accidentally-via-github/
02:11 TR Bot; Microsoft employees leaked internal credentials accidentally via GitHub - Neowin
02:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], ^
02:11 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Also it's never this easy because even the military have families.
02:11 XRevan86; DaemonFC: And that's both a hostage situation and an incentive to provide.
02:12 DaemonFC; Having a family is always a hostage situation.
02:12 DaemonFC; If you don't have anything to lose anyway, threats mean less.
02:12 XRevan86; Regardless of whether that's Russia, DPRK, PRC, et al.
02:13 DaemonFC; I used to just skip out on people I owed a lot of money to and if a landlord threatened me I didn't care because I could just move out and sleep in the car for a while if I had to until I got a new apartment the next week.
02:13 DaemonFC; Things are so much more terrifying after you get a couple of cats, get married. For some people, have kids.
02:13 DaemonFC; One screw up, and you're dead meat.
02:14 DaemonFC; It's a lot easier to "shoot the hostage" when it's just you.
02:14 DaemonFC; Whether that's literal or figurative.
02:15 DaemonFC; Blind hatred seems pretty powerful to me. You'd think that a government that wants to control everyone and keep them quiet would embrace any kind of marriage.
02:15 DaemonFC; Gives it more leverage.
02:16 DaemonFC; I'm just naturally so depressed that pretty much the only things I care about providing for are my spouse and cats and the rest of the world can just go to Hell, sorry, but expanding even that far has left me more vulnerable than I was before.
02:17 DaemonFC; Which feeds into the depression because I know now that I have to play ball.
02:17 XRevan86; But even then one can't expect such an army to be motivated, Koreans fighting for Russia to destroy Baltic states over some questionable affairs?
02:17 DaemonFC; Does that make sense, schestowitz[TR]?
02:17 XRevan86; That can't be taken seriously of course.
02:18 DaemonFC; The Koreans won't give a shit about you or your damned war.
02:18 XRevan86; Exactly.
02:18 DaemonFC; They don't have any family in Russia and they probably won't get to go back home anyway, especially if they fight and end up dead.
02:19 DaemonFC; It's also not like Putin plans on paying them so they can send remittance money back to their parents.
02:19 XRevan86; Vladimir Soloviev doesn't need to take anything real into account for his verbal diarrhea.
02:19 DaemonFC; The whole plan appears to be we're losing this thing badly. Hey, there's a lot of people in North Korea. Let's give them guns and send them over the border and fantasize that they win this thing for us. Because they'll be very inclined to fight due to reasons and things and stuff.
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02:20 DaemonFC; Poorly thought out.
02:20 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Vladimir Soloviev doesn't need to take anything real into account for his verbal diarrhea.
02:21 DaemonFC; Nobody in Russia does. Like the threat that they'll deorbit the ISS on top of us except wait, they plan to use it for four more years nevermind.
02:21 DaemonFC; Also, act of war.
02:21 DaemonFC; "We're going to maybe kill one person in your country if a piece of this thing happens to land on them HAHAHAHA!!! FEAR US! -The Russians
02:22 DaemonFC; You know what would make GLONASS a little less reliable than it already is? Some Standard Missile 3s taking out all of your satellites if you actually do that.
02:23 DaemonFC; You can blow up satellites with SM-3s. It'll make a hell of a mess.
02:25 DaemonFC; We haven't given Ukraine anything close to our best stuff. Just what they need to make things rather unpleasant for the Russians, which don't even seem to be able to overcome that.
02:26 DaemonFC; The entire point is to force this mess into a sort of trench warfare where the Russians can't take ground and pretty much just die where they are as soon as they try anything.
02:26 DaemonFC; Which appears to be working for the most part.
02:26 XRevan86; It is weird to observe the War Ministry claiming that they've destroyed over 9000 HIMARS.
02:27 DaemonFC; I'm sure that's not exactly how it went.
02:27 XRevan86; As if they want to tell their military that the situation is under control.
02:27 DaemonFC; Yeah, while the things are landing on top of them and exploding.
02:27 DaemonFC; I mean, isn't it a little stupid to try to lie this way?
02:27 XRevan86; DaemonFC: The evidence given is ludicrous. The US and Ukraine say the number is 0.
02:28 DaemonFC; Putin doesn't need any evidence. If he says that's how it is, that's how it is. Bush said he looked inside Putin's soul and got a feel for the man and thought he was very honest about things.
02:28 XRevan86; Trucks are HIMARS, a bush is HIMARS, a HIMARS on the second floor of a building.
02:29 DaemonFC; XRevan86, You're not being imaginative enough.
02:29 DaemonFC; If you miss and hit a pile of dirt, that was HIMARS too.
02:29 DaemonFC; Thus 9,000.
02:30 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Mages of the Federal Protective Service of Russia have also read the mind of Madeleine Albright
02:31 XRevan86; From this astral invasion they learnt that she wants to take away Siberia.
02:32 XRevan86; https://foreignpolicy.com/2007/11/07/russian-spies-can-read-madeleine-albrights-mind/
02:32 TR Bot; Russian spies can read Madeleine Albrights mind Foreign Policy
02:32 XRevan86; Nice, I've actually found a record of this in English.
02:33 XRevan86; DaemonFC: With this reality I've given up on imagination.
02:34 XRevan86; Too many people are more than willing to lend some of theirs.
02:36 XRevan86; DaemonFC: For instance, this is what the forum Army-2022 looks like: https://t.me/RIAKremlinpool/7209
02:36 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @RIAKremlinpool
02:38 XRevan86; "International Miltary-Technical Forum ARMY-2022"
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-170822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-170822.txt
02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 17, 2022
02:39 TR News; Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-170822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-170822.txt
02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 17, 2022
02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-170822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-170822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-170822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-170822.txt
02:40 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 17, 2022
02:40 XRevan86; The costume is of a Fixie
02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-170822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-170822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-170822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-170822.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 17, 2022
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I checked the law.
02:44 DaemonFC; If the landlord is planning not to renew the lease, they must give me 60 days written notice that the lease will not be renewing if it is a 1 year lease.
02:47 DaemonFC; That's the danger of not renewing a lease and signing another one.
02:47 DaemonFC; The notice to vacate only has to be 30 days and can arrive at any time after the lease expires.
02:48 DaemonFC; The lease does provide some protections for the tenant in addition to the landlord.
02:48 DaemonFC; Namely that during the term covered by the lease, the landlord can't just give you 30 days to get out with no notice.
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03:01 *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/
03:01 *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021
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03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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05:34 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, August 17, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
05:34 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
05:35 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
05:35 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
05:38 TR News; Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.shtml
05:38 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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05:57 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D326.jpg
05:57 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D677.jpg
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06:02 TR News; Far-right Illinois Gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey blames high gas prices for low rally turnout. One attendee was a January 6th rioter. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/08/18/far-right-illinois-gubernatorial-candidate-darren-bailey-blames-high-gas-prices-for-low-rally-turnout-one-attendee-was-a-january-6th-rioter/
06:02 TR Bot; Far-right Illinois Gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey blames high gas prices for low rally turnout. One attendee was a January 6th rioter. | BaronHK's Rants
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06:02 TR News; High Court rules Google cannot be sued for defamation over links https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/high-court-rules-google-cannot-be-sued-for-defamation-over-links.html
06:02 TR Bot; - High Court rules Google cannot be sued for defamation over links
06:03 TR News; "This series contains a few fixup patches to fix incorrect update of max_huge_pages, fix WARN_ON(!kobj) in sysfs_create_group() and so on. More details can be found in the respective changelogs" https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/akpm/mm.git/commit/?h=mm-unstable&id=b1fa46e99ce29d181435d9b321f0c7248e238a3d
06:03 TR Bot; kernel/git/akpm/mm.git - akpm's fork of linux.git
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06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:53 DaemonFC; MinceR, https://scontent-ord5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/299119423_1521412271645800_8525180765298830896_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=_gJ1XA41btgAX-ylYHI&tn=UndYO5-j7WtqJGpX&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-1.xx&oh=00_AT-7HnKkKQrfwI6eQ6iU-TqvSZEDPdA7UMUdwhW9Ls80eQ&oe=63028D41
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07:09 TR News; "So I guess I can cool it with the bitching and complaining about being lonely posts, at least for a little while." gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/good-news-bad-feelings
07:11 TR News; "The Wall Street Canyon by SimplyNUC integrates Intels 12th Gen i3/i5/i7 processors and it supports Iris Xe Graphics . The base models come with 4GB DDR4 RAM and 256GB NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD." https://linuxgizmos.com/wall-street-canyon-offers-12th-gen-intel-processors-and-four-4k-displays/
07:11 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/wall-street-canyon-offers-12th-gen-intel-processors-and-four-4k-displays/ )
07:12 TR News; REMINDER: Standard Support for Qt 5.15 LTS ends in May 2023: Act Now! https://www.qt.io/blog/the-conversion-program-is-ending
07:12 TR Bot; REMINDER: Standard Support for Qt 5.15 LTS ends in May 2023: Act Now!
07:14 TR News; This is NOT for Windows https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/18/mediatek-t830-to-power-5g-fwa-routers-and-mobile-hotspots/
↺ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/18/mediatek-t830-to-power-5g-fwa-routers-and-mobile-hotspots/
07:14 TR Bot; MediaTek T830 to power 5G FWA routers and mobile hotspots - CNX Software
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07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:21 TR News; (New Entry): Ubuntu on RISC-V (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/Ubuntu_on_RISC_V.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/Ubuntu_on_RISC_V.gmi
07:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Ubuntu on RISC-V (UPDATED)
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07:45 TR News; Adding auditing to pip https://lwn.net/Articles/904197/
07:45 TR Bot; auditing to pip [LWN.net]
07:50 TR News; (New Entry): Kolibri and GNOME https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Kolibri_and_GNOME.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Kolibri_and_GNOME.gmi
07:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kolibri and GNOME"
07:51 TR News; (New Entry): [LWN's Latest Articles on Kernel Development (Paywall Has Lapsed) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/LWN_s_Latest_Article_on_Kernel_Development_Paywall_Has_Lapsed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/LWN_s_Latest_Article_on_Kernel_Development_Paywall_Has_Lapsed.gmi
07:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines [LWN's Latest Articles on Kernel Development (Paywall Has Lapsed)
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08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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09:01 TR News; Our Content Management System Now Live in Another Site | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/new-cms-live/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/18/new-cms-live/
09:01 TR Bot; Our Content Management System Now Live in Another Site | Techrights
09:02 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/irc-log-170822/ Source: Techrights | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//techrights.org/2022/08/18/irc-log-170822/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/18/irc-log-170822/
09:02 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 | Techrights
09:02 TR News; (New Entry): Krita 5.1 Released with JPEG-XL Support, Full WebP Support, PSD Improvements, and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Krita_5_1_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Krita_5_1_Released.gmi
09:02 TR Bot; Tux Machines Krita 5.1 Released with JPEG-XL Support, Full WebP Support, PSD Improvements, and More
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09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:24 TR News; August 2022 Sets New Record Lows for PCR Testing (We're Blinding Ourselves to COVID-19), Positively Rate Climbed From Under 1% in August 2020 to 6% This Year https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/18/tests-of-covid-19/
09:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive August 2022 Sets New Record Lows for PCR Testing (Were Blinding Ourselves to COVID-19), Positively Rate Climbed From Under 1% in August 2020 to 6% This Year
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09:36 TR News; "I remember when their predicted graphs looked very different way back in 2020. Their promises were false." https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/18/tests-of-covid-19/
09:37 TR News; Upgrades and migrations (Alpine, static site generator, and so on) are coming along nicely; this past week we completed a bunch of important steps http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/new-cms-live/
09:41 TR News; gemini://auragem.space/youtube/search does not work at the moment. Did Gulag break APIs again to sabotage mirrors?
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09:47 TR News; Why I left PINE64 https://blog.brixit.nl/why-i-left-pine64/ | Source: Martijn Braam
09:47 TR Bot; Why I left PINE64
09:48 TR News; "Black Hat never fails to deliver exciting, enlightening, and distressing discussions about the state of cybersecurity." https://uk.pcmag.com/security/142062/the-14-scariest-things-we-saw-at-black-hat-2022 | Source: PC Mag
09:48 TR Bot; The 14 Scariest Things We Saw at Black Hat 2022
09:49 TR News; [Old] "In order to address AI crimes, the paper will start by outlining what might constitute personhood in discussing legal positivism and natural law." https://spheres-journal.org/contribution/restorative-justice-in-artificial-intelligence-crimes/ |
09:49 TR Bot; Restorative Justice in Artificial Intelligence Crimes spheres
09:49 TR News; [Old] "Some Free Software developers chose to use different tools, such as email and DVCS without a web interface, to collaborate in a distributed way" https://forgefriends.org/blog/2022/06/30/2022-06-state-forge-federation/ |
09:49 TR Bot; State of the Forge Federation: 2021 to 2023
09:51 TR News; Windows TCO https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/ransomware-attacks-on-rise-finserv-sector-shows-high-resilience-with-layered-defences/93629605 | Source: India Times
09:51 TR Bot; Ransomware attacks on rise, Finserv Sector shows high resilience with layered defences, CIO News, ET CIO
09:52 TR News; Windows TCO https://news.err.ee/1608688201/estonia-subjected-to-extensive-cyberattacks-after-moving-soviet-monuments | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
09:52 TR Bot; Estonia subjected to 'extensive' cyberattacks after moving Soviet monuments | News | ERR
09:52 TR News; Proprietary junk: "That year 19 million bags and suitcases were late arriving around the world, and 1.3 million were never seen again, according to an annual report by SITA" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62446937 | Source: BBC
09:52 TR Bot; tech aiming to prevent lost airline luggage - BBC News
09:52 TR News; "Authorities said a traveler reported last month that her luggage never made it to her destination. The items inside were worth about $1,600." https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/airtag-leads-arrest-airline-worker-accused-stealing-least-15000-items-rcna43547 | Source: NBC
09:52 TR Bot; AirTag leads to arrest of airline worker accused of stealing at least $15,000 worth of items from luggage
09:53 TR News; Surveillance: now spun as "build businesses together." https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/08/12/apple-facebook-said-to-have-discussed-revenue-sharing-agreements-years-ago | Source: AppleInsider
09:53 TR Bot; Facebook discussed revenue-sharing before privacy battles | AppleInsider
10:15 TR News; (New Entry): StarFive VisionFive V1 RISC-V SBC gets Ubuntu 22.04.1 Server image from Canonical https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/StarFive_VisionFive_V1_RISC_V_SBC_gets_Ubuntu_22_04_1_Server_im.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/StarFive_VisionFive_V1_RISC_V_SBC_gets_Ubuntu_22_04_1_Server_im.gmi
10:15 TR Bot; Tux Machines StarFive VisionFive V1 RISC-V SBC gets Ubuntu 22.04.1 Server image from Canonical
10:15 MinceR; 18 013101 < DaemonFC> MinceR, I used to laugh at how cartoonishly stupid the Russians in Stargate SG-1 were.
10:15 MinceR; but then you found out how accurate that was? :>
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10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
10:25 hossa; "the Russians"
10:44 TR News; "The papers outline the results from August 2021 that made the breakthrough possible." https://interestingengineering.com/science/breakthrough-nuclear-fusion-energy-ignition-record-megajoule-shot | Source: Interesting Engineering
10:44 TR Bot; Breakthrough in nuclear fusion energy: Ignition confirmed in record 1.3 megajoule shot
10:44 TR News; "Over the past 12 months, as the world has eased out of pandemic crisis mode, the pop culture-verse and the Wall Street-verse" https://variety.com/2022/digital/features/web3-explained-internet-future-hollywood-1235342578/ | Source: Variety
10:44 TR Bot; Is Web3? How Could It Change Hollywood? - Variety
10:44 TR News; "Fox says it is prepared to invest up to $100 million in NFT and blockchain initiatives" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/fox-nft-blockchain-1235342878/ | Source: Variety
10:44 TR Bot; Is Investing Millions in NFTs and Blockchain - Variety
10:45 TR News; (New Entry): We tested all the Ubuntu remixes for resource usage so you don't have to https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/We_tested_all_the_Ubuntu_remixes_for_resource_usage_so_you_don_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/We_tested_all_the_Ubuntu_remixes_for_resource_usage_so_you_don_.gmi
10:45 TR Bot; Tux Machines We tested all the Ubuntu remixes for resource usage so you don't have to
10:46 TR News; (New Entry): Frameworks, PostgreSQL, Vim Update in Tumbleweed https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Frameworks_PostgreSQL_Vim_Update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Frameworks_PostgreSQL_Vim_Update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi
10:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Frameworks, PostgreSQL, Vim Update in Tumbleweed"
10:46 TR News; (New Entry): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
10:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
10:49 TR News; "after spending the past four years trying to fix the News Feed by making it more about friends and family" https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/17/23309770/future-of-facebook-feed-discovery-engine-land-of-the-giants-podcast | Source: The Verge
10:49 TR Bot; This is Facebooks plan to be cool again - The Verge
10:50 TR News; Misinformation/Disinformation https://yle.fi/news/3-12580246 | Source: YLE
10:50 TR Bot; Finland launches information resilience unit | News | Yle Uutiset
10:51 TR News; "A Saudi student was initially sentenced to three years in prison after returning from Leeds University by a special Saudi terrorism court for using the [Internet] to cause public unrest and destabilize civil and national security." https://slovenia.postsen.com/world/19871/Saudi-student-sentenced-to-34-years-in-prison-for-tweets.html |
10:51 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://slovenia.postsen.com/world/19871/Saudi-student-sentenced-to-34-years-in-prison-for-tweets.html )
10:51 TR News; "A Saudi terrorism court has sentenced a womens rights activist and academic to 34 years in prison" https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/saudi-activist-salma-al-shehab-sentenced-to-34-years-in-prison-over-tweets/dc23jm876 | Source: SBS
10:51 TR Bot; Saudi activist Salma al-Shehab sentenced to 34 years in prison over Twitter posts
10:51 TR News; "A PhD student based in the UK has been jailed for 34 years in Saudi Arabia over a handful of Twitter posts and retweets, which rights groups said was the longest sentence ever" https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjkv5v/salma-al-shehab-saudi-arabia | Source: Vice
10:51 TR Bot; Saudi Arabia Jails Woman For 34 Years For Using Twitter
10:52 TR News; "Mohammed bin Salman, known as MBS, was found by US intelligence services to have directly approved the killing of Jamal Khashoggi" https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/17/23310126/twitter-saudi-woman-sentenced-34-years-salma-al-shehab | Source: The Verge
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10:52 TR Bot; Saudi Arabia sentenced a woman to 34 years in prison for tweeting - The Verge
10:52 TR News; "Salma al-Shehab is a mother of two boys and a PhD candidate at the University of Leeds" https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/saudi-rights-activist-sentenced-34-year-imprisonment | Source: TheNewArab
10:52 TR Bot; Saudi rights activist sentenced to 34 year imprisonment
10:52 TR News; "Last week, the book was not among the top 100." https://fortune.com/2022/08/16/the-satanic-verses-tops-amazons-bestseller-list-salman-rushdie/ | Source: Fortune
10:52 TR Bot; Satanic Verses tops Amazon bestseller lists 33 years after it was published | Fortune
10:53 TR News; "The sold-out paperback edition of "The Satanic Verses" was the No. 2 bestselling book" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/salman-rushdie-book-sales-surge-stabbing-attack-rcna43560 | Source: NBC
10:53 TR Bot; Salman Rushdie book sales surge after stabbing attack
10:53 TR News; "Salma al-Shehab, 34, a Saudi citizen and mother of two, was arrested in 2021 while on holiday in the kingdom" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62574102 | Source: BBC
10:53 TR Bot; al-Shehab: Concern for Saudi student jailed for 34 years over tweets - BBC News
10:55 TR News; "pro-Kremlin website Tatar-Inform reported on August 17 that police searched the homes of seven other local journalist" https://www.voanews.com/a/russian-police-search-homes-of-journalists-contributing-to-rfe-rl-programs/6705736.html | Source: VOA News
10:55 TR Bot; Russian Police Search Homes of Journalists Contributing to RFE/RL Programs
10:56 TR News; "Defteros was the subject of an article in the Melbourne newspaper" https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/high-court-rules-google-cannot-be-sued-for-defamation-over-links.html | Source: IT Wire
10:56 TR Bot; - High Court rules Google cannot be sued for defamation over links
10:56 TR News; "Free Speech: A History from Socrates to Social Media" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/17/uk-columnist-because-salman-rushdie-got-stabbed-we-should-regulate-online-speech-get-rid-of-anonymity-and-hold-social-media-responsible/ | Source: Techdirt
10:56 TR Bot; Columnist: Because Salman Rushdie Got Stabbed, We Should Regulate Online Speech, Get Rid Of Anonymity, And Hold Social Media Responsible | Techdirt
10:56 TR News; "Weve noted for a long while that Americans pay some of the highest prices in the developed world for mobile data" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/17/u-s-wireless-network-quality-dips-again/ | Source: Techdirt
10:56 TR Bot; Wireless Network Quality Dips, Again | Techdirt
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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11:15 TR News; ing gradually replaced, with things like latex/markdown/similar growing from the editing side of things (e.g. Wiki/CMS front ends) and GemText (for Gemini Protocol) also steadily gaining share.
11:15 TR News; The World Wide Web (or HTML, Its Subset) May Already Be Less Than 10% of Internet Traffic | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/appification-of-the-world-wide-web/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/18/appification-of-the-world-wide-web/
11:15 TR Bot; The World Wide Web (or HTML, Its Subset) May Already Be Less Than 10% of Internet Traffic | Techrights
11:16 TR News; (New Entry): KDE Gear 22.08 Arrives with XDG Portals Support, Markup and Annotation in Gwenview https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/KDE_Gear_22_08_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/KDE_Gear_22_08_Released.gmi
11:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Gear 22.08 Arrives with XDG Portals Support, Markup and Annotation in Gwenview
11:17 TR News; Zuckerbag and Sandbag put women in a bodybag https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/17/rights-groups-tell-zuckerberg-stop-dangerous-censorship-abortion-content | Source: Common Dreams
11:17 TR Bot; Rights Groups Tell Zuckerberg to Stop 'Dangerous Censorship' of Abortion Content
11:18 TR News; "Finding recently modified files is a helpful parameter when troubleshooting your code or server" https://linuxhandbook.com/find-modified-files/ | Source: Linux Handbook
11:18 TR Bot; Find Files Modified in Last N Minutes in Linux
11:19 TR News; "You've put 100+ hours into Vampire Survivors and now what?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/spellbook-demonslayers-is-the-most-insane-vampire-survivors-like-yet/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:19 TR Bot; Demonslayers is the most insane Vampire Survivors-like yet | GamingOnLinux
11:19 TR News; "Blossom Tales 2: The Minotaur Prince is a new Native Linux release from Castle Pixel and Playtonic Friends." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/blossom-tales-2-the-minotaur-prince-out-with-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:19 TR Bot; Tales 2: The Minotaur Prince out with Linux support | GamingOnLinux
11:19 TR News; "Looking for some games to play on Steam Deck that are good, work well and don't cost too much? Here's a few choice picks from me to you." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/fun-games-for-steam-deck-that-wont-break-the-bank/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:19 TR Bot; games for Steam Deck that won't break the bank | GamingOnLinux
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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11:23 TR News; Likely Indonesian Internet Surveillance gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/08-18-likely-indonesian-network-survelience.gmi
11:26 TR News; "Airships: Conquer the Skies is a wonderful Native Linux indie game about constructing various vehicles and conquering everything you can with them." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/airships-conquer-the-skies-gets-co-op-and-direct-ship-control/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:26 TR Bot; Conquer the Skies gets co-op and direct ship control | GamingOnLinux
11:26 TR News; "Not long after a bunch of changes rolled out to Preview and Beta, Valve has updated the Steam Deck Client software with various improvements." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/steam-deck-gets-a-stable-client-update-with-offline-mode-fixes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:26 TR Bot; Deck gets a Stable Client update with Offline Mode fixes | GamingOnLinux
11:26 TR News; "Recently it was noticed that users on more bleeding-edge Linux distributions that updated saw Easy Anti-Cheat no longer working on Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/08/valve-dev-understandably-not-happy-about-glibc-breaking-easy-anti-cheat-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
11:26 TR Bot; dev understandably not happy about glibc breaking Easy Anti-Cheat on Linux | GamingOnLinux
11:27 TR News; "The E500RM9 comes with 4GB of RAM, 64GB of internal storage and Micro SD card support." https://linuxgizmos.com/5-rugged-handheld-computer-integrates-an-8-core-cpu-and-runs-on-android-11-0/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
11:27 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/5-rugged-handheld-computer-integrates-an-8-core-cpu-and-runs-on-android-11-0/ )
11:28 TR News; iophk: microsoft buying influence https://www.openbsdfoundation.org/campaign2022.html
11:28 TR Bot; The OpenBSD Foundation 2022 Fundraising Campaign
11:28 TR News; Cashless Means They Get to Watch You! 7 Tips to Fight Back. https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/cashless:66 Source: RobBraxmanTech | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/cashless:66
11:28 TR Bot; Cashless Means They Get to Watch You! 7 Tips to Fight Back.
11:28 TR News; nuclearfusion https://www.newscientist.com/article/2333346-ignition-confirmed-in-a-nuclear-fusion-experiment-for-the-first-time/ newscientist paywall
11:29 TR Bot; Nuclear fusion: Ignition confirmed in an experiment for the first time | New Scientist
11:29 TR News; Novaya Gazeta https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/17/team-behind-novaya-gazeta-s-new-magazine-charged-with-discrediting-the-russian-army | Source: Meduza
11:29 TR Bot; NO TITLE
11:29 TR News; "In this blog post, we are going to show you how to install Django Web Framework on Ubuntu 22.04 OS." https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-django-web-framework-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | Source: RoseHosting
11:30 TR Bot; to Install Django Web Framework on Ubuntu 22.04 - RoseHosting
11:48 TR News; The Web is shifting from a vast set of interlinked pages into disparate objects and programs, which are inherently proprietary, inefficient, and undesirable (many users attempt to block them); there are thankfully efforts to recreate what the Web used to be and really should be http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/appification-of-the-world-wide-web/
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12:00 TR News; REAL pencils so NOT need batteries and last fine 30+ years https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-check-apple-pencil-battery/
12:00 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/apple-2/how-to-check-apple-pencil-battery/ )
12:00 TR News; (UPDATED): FSearch 0.2 Brings Major Search Engine Boost, Drops Snap Support (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/16/FSearch_0_2_Brings_Major_Search_Engine_Boost_Drops_Snap_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/16/FSearch_0_2_Brings_Major_Search_Engine_Boost_Drops_Snap_Support.gmi
12:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines FSearch 0.2 Brings Major Search Engine Boost, Drops Snap Support (UPDATED)
12:05 TR News; August 15, 2022: Russian authorities extend internet control at home and in Ukraine https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
12:05 TR Bot; Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now
12:06 TR News; Hledger A Plain Text Accounting Tool for Linux Terminal https://www.linuxshelltips.com/hledger-commandline-accounting-tool-linux/ Source: linuxshelltips | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/hledger-commandline-accounting-tool-linux/
12:06 TR Bot; Hledger A Plain Text Accounting Tool for Linux Terminal
12:06 TR News; Ranger A Vim-Inspired Console File Manager for Linux https://www.linuxshelltips.com/ranger-linux-console-file-manager/ Source: linuxshelltips | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/ranger-linux-console-file-manager/
12:06 TR Bot; Ranger A Vim-Inspired Console File Manager for Linux
12:07 TR News; GAFAM's response to GNU, hosted in proprietary GPL violation machine of Microsoft https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mold-1.4.1-Linker
12:07 TR Bot; Performance Mold Linker Begins Adding macOS, CMake Build Support - Phoronix
12:08 TR News; "Advocating for FreeBSD in 2022 and Beyond, NetBSD 9.3 released, OPNsense 22.7 available, CHERI-based computer runs KDE for the first time, Run FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE for ARM64 in QEMU on Apple Silicon Mac, and more" https://www.bsdnow.tv/468
12:08 TR Bot; BSD Now 468: Apples and CHERI
12:11 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/18/9-killed-35-injured-in-a-missile-strike-on-ukraine-s-kharkiv-news "9 killed, 35 injured in a missile strike on Ukraine's Kharkiv"
12:11 TR Bot; .
12:11 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/18/russias-defence-agency-confirms-kharkiv-strikes-news "Russias defence agency confirms Kharkiv strikes"
12:11 TR Bot; .
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:21 TR News; "At this year's DrupalCon North America, EPAM Solution Architect John Picozzi presented a talk about the importance of non-code contribution." https://opensource.com/article/22/8/non-code-contribution-powers-open-source | Source: OpenSource.com
12:21 TR Bot; source runs on non-code contributions | Opensource.com
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12:26 TR News; Roskomnadzor https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/17/roskomnadzor-sets-aside-58-million-rubles-for-system-to-find-banned-content | Source: Meduza
12:26 TR Bot; NO TITLE
12:30 TR News; Is Java really fading? I am not sure. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/8/software-development-trends
12:30 TR Bot; Software development trends: What's flourishing and what's fading | The Enterprisers Project
12:30 TR News; Kitty The Fast, Feature-Rich, GPU-Based Terminal Emulator https://www.linuxshelltips.com/kitty-terminal-emulator-linux/ Source: linuxshelltips | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/kitty-terminal-emulator-linux/
12:30 TR Bot; Kitty The Fast, Feature-Rich, GPU-Based Terminal Emulator
12:31 TR News; (New Entry): Top Linux Distributions for Students in 2022 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Top_Linux_Distributions_for_Students_in_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Top_Linux_Distributions_for_Students_in_2022.gmi
12:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Top Linux Distributions for Students in 2022
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12:42 TR News; (New Entry): Games: Spellbook Demonslayers, Blossom Tales 2, and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Games_Spellbook_Demonslayers_Blossom_Tales_2_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Games_Spellbook_Demonslayers_Blossom_Tales_2_and_More.gmi
12:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Spellbook Demonslayers, Blossom Tales 2, and More"
12:42 TR News; (New Entry): Today's HowTos " https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_howtos.gmi
12:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
12:42 TR News; (New Entry): Why I left PINE64 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Why_I_left_PINE64.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Why_I_left_PINE64.gmi
12:42 TR Bot; Tux Machines Why I left PINE64
12:44 TR News; Wrong platform, Microsoft's proprietary software prison https://blog.slyon.de/2022/08/18/netplan-v0-105-is-now-available/
12:44 TR Bot; Netplan v0.105 is now available SlyBlog
12:45 TR News; "Firstly, I'm not planning on breaking compatibility with Type::Params. The new API would live under a different namespace, such as Type::Params2." http://blogs.perl.org/users/toby_inkster/2022/08/rfc-new-api-for-typeparams.html
12:45 TR Bot; new API for Type::Params | Toby Inkster [blogs.perl.org]
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12:50 TR News; Rutube https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/08/17/russian-youtube-alternative-bans-ios-app-downloads-everywhere-but-russia | Source: Meduza
12:50 TR Bot; NO TITLE
12:51 TR News; (New Entry): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi
12:51 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 56.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 41.16
12:59 TR News; Oakland https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/oakland-homeless-camp-cob-on-wood/ | Source: The Nation
12:59 TR Bot; Oaklands Largest Homeless Camp Dodges the Bulletfor Now | The Nation
13:00 TR News; Lyft https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/david-alexis-brooklyn-election/ | Source: The Nation
13:00 TR Bot; Can a Socialist Lyft Driver Beat an Incumbent Bankrolled by the Fossil Fuel Industry? | The Nation
13:02 TR News; "From corporate polluters to political bosses, power elites try to create a myth of inevitability, trying to make workaday people feel helpless" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/17/very-strong-people-can-defeat-corporate-jerks | Source: Common Dreams
13:02 TR Bot; Opinion | The Very Strong People Can Defeat the Corporate Jerks | Jim Hightower
13:04 TR News; "A recent poll shows that 87 percent of Americans view the growing gap between CEO and worker pay as a problem for the country" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/08/17/how-public-purse-can-address-huge-pay-gaps-low-wage-workers-us-corporations | Source: Common Dreams
13:04 TR Bot; Opinion | How the Public Purse Can Address Huge Pay Gaps for Low-Wage Workers at US Corporations | Sarah Anderson
13:05 *acer-box is now known as schestowitz-TR2
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13:18 TR News; "i wanted to get back into creating websites for fun but i realized that utilizing the great technology we have at our fingertips... is just holding me back from what i want to make rather than empowering me to do what i want." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1106
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:26 TR News; Censorship https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/17/gop-censorship-crusade-leads-250-spike-educational-gag-order-proposals | Source: Common Dreams
13:26 TR Bot; GOP Censorship Crusade Leads to 250% Spike in 'Educational Gag Order' Proposals
13:30 TR News; "This month's DVD includes the 2022 edition of the Linux Magazine Archive DVD every previous issue of Linux Magazine on a single, searchable disc. Browse the pages of every article we've ever published, and experience our special brand of technical yet accessible how-to insights." http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/263/This-Month-s-DVD
13:30 TR Bot; On the DVD Linux Magazine
13:37 TR News; (New Entry): Linux Magazine's Latest Issue https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Linux_Magazine_s_Latest_Issue.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Linux_Magazine_s_Latest_Issue.gmi
13:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Magazine's Latest Issue
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14:00 TR News; India https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/08/17/indias-media-at-75-shackled-by-profit-politically-imprisoned/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:00 TR Bot; Media at 75: Shackled by Profit, Politically Imprisoned - CounterPunch.org
14:00 TR News; (New Entry): Tsar Putin gets Linux to run on desktop and mobile https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Tsar_Putin_gets_Linux_to_run_on_desktop_and_mobile.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Tsar_Putin_gets_Linux_to_run_on_desktop_and_mobile.gmi
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14:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Tsar Putin gets Linux to run on desktop and mobile
14:02 TR News; betanews is posting webspam again. When not busy with its anti-Linux stories and Microsoft puff pieces it publishes classic spam.
14:06 TR News; What IF Unity was STILL the default? | Unity 7.6 Deep Dive - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SUZm-esTPD0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SUZm-esTPD0
14:06 TR Bot; What IF Unity was STILL the default? | Unity 7.6 Deep Dive - Invidious
14:07 TR News; The real thing is also very malicious and should be avoided. https://www.maketecheasier.com/packages-microsoft-office-usb-drives-scam/
14:07 TR Bot; Be Wary of Packages with Microsoft Office USB Drives: It's a Scam - Make Tech Easier
14:07 TR News; (New Entry): LibreOffice 7.4 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/LibreOffice_7_4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/LibreOffice_7_4.gmi
14:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines LibreOffice 7.4
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14:08 Ariadne; https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/alpine/aports/-/issues/14107
14:08 TR Bot; community/minio: integrated admin panel contains gaslighting (#14107) Issues alpine / aports GitLab
14:08 Ariadne; i should write to stallman to see if he agrees that using the AGPL in the way Minio is doing is not beneficial for software freedom
14:09 TR News; Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS supports Raspberry Pi 4 - Geeky Gadgets https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/ubuntu-22-04-1-lts-supports-raspberry-pi-4-18-08-2022/ Source: geeky-gadgets | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.geeky-gadgets.com/ubuntu-22-04-1-lts-supports-raspberry-pi-4-18-08-2022/
14:09 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS supports Raspberry Pi 4 - Geeky Gadgets
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: in falkon the images do not show up
14:11 Ariadne; schestowitz[TR]: strange
14:11 Ariadne; image #1: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VFoPncjN/image.png
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; is DD associated with alpine?
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; or just for packaging?
14:11 schestowitz[TR]; https://gitlab.alpinelinux.org/ddevault
14:11 TR Bot; Drew DeVault GitLab
14:11 Ariadne; image #2: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FUvyRZoa/image.png
14:12 Ariadne; image #3: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8ISSjwjx/image.png
14:12 schestowitz[TR]; he build his gemini serverfor alpine
14:12 Ariadne; schestowitz[TR]: he is an alpine developer, and on the alpine license review team, and also the maintainer of community/minio
14:13 Ariadne; anyway, as you can probably tell from the images i posted, Minio are trying to use FUD about AGPL to sell commercial licenses
14:13 schestowitz[TR]; so what they say is, give us abck all the changes
14:13 schestowitz[TR]; or keep the changes and pay us money
14:13 Ariadne; no, what they say is
14:13 Ariadne; if you build an app which uses minio (even if it has nothing to do with minio itself, like it just uses minio to store files)
14:13 Ariadne; that the minio AGPL license will infect your app
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; that last sentence is weird
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; image.png
14:14 schestowitz[TR]; jwjx
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; "combined work"
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; if you don't change it, combined with what?
14:15 schestowitz[TR]; also, host mirrros?
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14:16 schestowitz[TR]; we use agplv3 for all our code by default
14:16 schestowitz[TR]; maybe their legal team is not competnant
14:17 schestowitz[TR]; if you didn't modify miniO, what's the point mirroring it?
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14:17 schestowitz[TR]; if small changes are made, you can submit patches
14:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://portal.drewdevault.com/kineto.gmi
14:18 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://portal.drewdevault.com/kineto.gmi )
14:18 schestowitz[TR]; https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/kineto/refs
14:18 TR Bot; ~sircmpwn/kineto refs - sourcehut git
14:18 schestowitz[TR]; "This is an HTTP to Gemini proxy designed to provide service for a single domain, i.e. to make your Gemini site available over HTTP. It can proxy to any domain in order to facilitate linking to the rest of Geminispace, but it defaults to a specific domain.
14:18 schestowitz[TR]; "
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
14:20 TR News; "These five steps will help you avoid open source licensing infringement issues." https://www.itprotoday.com/software-development/5-tips-avoid-open-source-licensing-infringemen
14:20 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://www.itprotoday.com/software-development/5-tips-avoid-open-source-licensing-infringemen )
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14:21 TR News; End of Globalization https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/08/is-globalization-over.html
14:21 TR Bot; Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Powerful Human Forces Driving the End of Globalization
14:22 TR News; "We are excited to announce that with the acquisition of Axivion GmbH, we can now offer you even more support for your quality assurance needs, regardless if you develop your applications and GUIs with the Qt framework and tools, or another software development stack." https://www.qt.io/blog/new-software-quality-assurance-tools-beyond-qt
14:22 TR Bot; New Software Quality Assurance Tools, beyond Qt
14:23 TR News; The War of the Worlds | Random thoughts of Peter CzP Czanik https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/war-of-the-worlds/ Source: peter | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peter.czanik.hu/posts/war-of-the-worlds/
14:23 TR Bot; The War of the Worlds | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
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14:24 TR News; "SeeedStudios SenseCAP K1100 comes with all necessary sensors and equipment including the Wio Terminal, AI Vision Sensor, and a LoRaWAN module." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/18/getting-started-lorawan-sensecap-k1100-sensor-prototype-kit/
14:24 TR Bot; Getting Started with LoRaWAN on SenseCAP K1100 sensor prototype kit (Part 1) - CNX Software
14:24 Ariadne; schestowitz[TR]: the "combined work" part is the problem, yes. they are trying to imply that writing an app which uploads data to minio is a "combined work" when it is not.
14:25 Ariadne; (the fact that it is not is why MongoDB created the SSPL, which *does explicitly* make that the case)
14:26 TR News; "Already, previous versions of the Rubber Ducky could carry out attacks like creating a fake Windows pop-up box to harvest a users login credentials or causing Chrome to send all saved passwords to an attackers webserver" https://www.theverge.com/23308394/usb-rubber-ducky-review-hack5-defcon-duckyscript
14:26 TR Bot; The new USB Rubber Ducky is more dangerous than ever - The Verge
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; so they use this misinformation to sell licences
14:26 Ariadne; anyway, minio is a very useful piece of software, so it is frustrating to see them use this misinformation
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; they should take their own advice
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; and read the licence carefully
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; they faileed to do this
14:26 schestowitz[TR]; or are lying intentionally
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; agpl is very good
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; it helps prevent people destroying your own project
14:27 schestowitz[TR]; by making a "better" version of it with a secret sauce
14:27 Ariadne; i mean, i was one of the people who lobbied for FSF to include AGPL as part of its official licenses
14:28 schestowitz[TR]; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/agplv3/
14:29 Ariadne; i am a strong believer in AGPL for Web APIs and Web Services
14:29 Ariadne; i am, also, incidentally, extremely informed on what AGPL requires and does not :p
14:30 TR News; "Uncurled everything I know and learned about running and maintaining Open Source projects for three decades. This is me, doing a live presentation/webinar on these topics that I cover in my book: Uncurled." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/08/18/uncurled-the-presentation/
14:30 TR Bot; the presentation | daniel.haxx.se
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; Ariadne: so they can reword that thingg
14:30 schestowitz[TR]; also, selling proprietary licences as a "get our of jail card" is bad for several reasons
14:31 Ariadne; schestowitz[TR]: my belief is that they fully understand the AGPL does not do what they claim it does, but find this arrangement beneficial for selling licenses
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; since what version?
14:32 Ariadne; version of what, Minio?
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; maybe they try to scare non-=gpl-violating companies that adopted this years ago
14:32 schestowitz[TR]; to make some "sales"
14:32 Ariadne; since about a year ago
14:32 Ariadne; before a year ago, Minio was Apache licensed
14:32 Ariadne; which, you know, switching from Apache to AGPL, kinda makes it transparent what they want to do, right?
14:32 Ariadne; :p
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; unless people stick to old versions
14:33 Ariadne; when asked, they said "it's about FOSS"
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; maybe with holes
14:33 Ariadne; even though Apache is just as FOSS as AGPL
14:33 Ariadne; i mean, obviously, it is about driving commercial license sales
14:33 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, the licence supersedes their FUD, e.g. in court
14:34 Ariadne; because in some contexts (by design), AGPL is quite scary
14:34 Ariadne; if you are an enterprise
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; depends, you can comply
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; depends how you intergrate it
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; I don't now this project
14:34 Ariadne; ghostscript, for example was at the core of google's search engine (for rendering and searching PDFs)
14:34 Ariadne; ghostscript went AGPL
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; some projects like curl can be "embedded" in programs
14:34 Ariadne; google got rid of it
14:34 Ariadne; ;)
14:34 schestowitz[TR]; like libcurl
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; google has internal memos against this licence
14:35 schestowitz[TR]; since about a decade back
14:35 Ariadne; yeah, and in google's case, it makes sense
14:36 Ariadne; the memos are public now
14:36 Ariadne; google has a giant monorepo and they staticly link everything
14:36 Ariadne; so yes, introducing AGPL to google would create huge problems for them
14:37 Ariadne; anyway, all of that is by intended design of AGPL
14:37 Ariadne; denying corporate proliferation was an explicit design goal for how clause 13 was worded
14:38 Ariadne; unfortunately, other corporations have figured out they can use a dual-license model to squeeze users for money
14:38 Ariadne; :(
14:38 schestowitz[TR]; Google is unique
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; it can afford to develop its own thing
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; it even tried to bypass Linux (gplv2)
14:39 schestowitz[TR]; that failed
14:39 TR News; (New Entry): Videos/Shows: Unity 7.6, BSD Now, and TLLTS https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Videos_Shows.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Videos_Shows.gmi
14:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Unity 7.6, BSD Now, and TLLTS
14:39 Ariadne; i don't know, i think Fuschia is a very interesting project
14:40 TR News; "The Fedora Project is participating in the upcoming round of Outreachy. We need more project ideas and mentors! The last day to propose a project or to apply as a general mentor is September 20, 2022 at 4pm UTC." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-projects-mentors-outreachy-dec-2022/
14:40 TR Bot; Call for Projects and Mentors for Outreachy December '22 - March '23 cohort Fedora Community Blog
14:40 Ariadne; i also don't think Fuschia is about "bypassing Linux," but a lot of the people who work on it are friends of mine and thus i probably have context you don't ;)
14:41 TR News; ICBM: we employ (also fire) hundreds of thousands of people, but we still look for volunteers (slaves?)
14:41 Ariadne; modern Linux does not spark joy when working on it. GNU/Linux has become the bloated enterprise operating system it aimed to replace
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; their stories change
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; of what it was made to achieve
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; because it became apparent it wouldn't work
14:41 Ariadne; even Alpine grows in bloat and complexity
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; likle Intel with Clear Linux
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; or Moblin
14:41 schestowitz[TR]; or Zephyr
14:42 Ariadne; actually Linux is worse than Solaris in terms of complexity at this point
14:42 Ariadne; see also: eBPF
14:43 Ariadne; and now, some things in Linux cannot even be used with syscalls. instead they are accessed via eBPF.
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; it's not just Linux
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; it's everything
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; look at workpress !!
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; ffs, I used to know all the files
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; in 2004
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; now it's a monster
14:43 Ariadne; right, that's why i replaced wordpress with hugo and some CI scripting
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; and you've moved to hugo
14:43 schestowitz[TR]; the wordpress blob has more files than blog posts
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; a small business site with 10 pages... 1000 files
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; makes no sense
14:44 Ariadne; also many of the plugins have less than stellar security records
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; one year, 10 blog posts
14:44 schestowitz[TR]; 10 system updates
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; 1,000 files, replaced 10 times :-)
14:45 Ariadne; like, i read through my nginx logs sometimes
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; 10,000 file swaps
14:45 schestowitz[TR]; 1000 file swaps per blog post
14:45 Ariadne; and there are always bots trying to exploit various wordpress plugins
14:46 Ariadne; increasingly i have thought about looking at OpenBSD
14:46 Ariadne; though the SMP performance on OpenBSD does not spark joy either
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; Linux is where all the drivers and features are
14:47 schestowitz[TR]; but if you just need to servce static pages, you probably need just 1% of Linux
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14:56 TR News; Axivion is now part of the Qt Group https://www.axivion.com/en/news/news-axivion-is-now-part-of-the-qt-group/ Source: axivion | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.axivion.com/en/news/news-axivion-is-now-part-of-the-qt-group/
14:56 TR Bot; Axivion is now part of the Qt Group
14:56 TR News; PINE64 has let its community down https://drewdevault.com/2022/08/18/PINE64-let-us-down.html
14:56 TR Bot; PINE64 has let its community down
14:56 TR News; "A short summary first: Martijns blog entry alleges that following PinePhone community editions, and after settling on Manjaro with KDEs plasma mobile as the default OS, PINE64 and the Pine Store Ltd have sidelined developers from other mobile Linux projects." https://www.pine64.org/2022/08/18/a-response-to-martijns-blog/
14:56 TR Bot; A response to Martijns blog | PINE64
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15:01 TR News; (New Entry): Julia 1.8 Highlights https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Julia_1_8_Highlights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Julia_1_8_Highlights.gmi
15:01 TR Bot; Tux Machines Julia 1.8 Highlights
15:03 TR News; Linux-Based Endpoint Connectivity to HP Anyware and Amazon WorkSpaces Deployments https://www.realwire.com/releases/10ZiG-Offers-New-Linux-Based-Endpoint-Connectivity-to-HP-Anyware
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15:03 TR Bot; 10ZiG Offers New Linux-Based Endpoint Connectivity to HP Anyware and Amazon WorkSpaces Deployments
15:05 TR News; "That's changed with the addition of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, making the XPS 13 Plus the first OEM laptop to be certified for the operating system." Will Dell charge MORE for GNU/Linux? Or same but with WORSE specs than Windows equiv? https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/dell-xps-13-2-in-1-launching
15:05 TR Bot; Dell's redesigned XPS 13 2-in-1 is launching August 25, starts at $1,099 | Windows Central
15:09 TR News; (New Entry): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_howtos.1.gmi
15:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
15:12 TR News; (New Entry): PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.3.3, 4.2.10, 4.1.13, 4.0.20 and 3.7.25 released. https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/PostgreSQL_Pgpool_II_4_3_3_4_2_10_4_1_13_4_0_20_and_3_7_25_rele.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/PostgreSQL_Pgpool_II_4_3_3_4_2_10_4_1_13_4_0_20_and_3_7_25_rele.gmi
15:12 TR Bot; Tux Machines PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.3.3, 4.2.10, 4.1.13, 4.0.20 and 3.7.25 released.
15:13 TR News; KDE neon 20220818 is out. So now I'm days behind. ;) https://neon.kde.org/
15:13 TR Bot; KDE neon
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15:16 TR News; (New Entry): KaOS 2022.08 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/KaOS_2022_08.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/KaOS_2022_08.gmi
15:16 TR Bot; Tux Machines KaOS 2022.08
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15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:20 TR News; Thunderbird Time Machine: Windows XP + Thunderbird 1.0 https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/thunderbird-time-machine-windows-xp-thunderbird-1-0/ Source: thunderbird | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.thunderbird.net/2022/08/thunderbird-time-machine-windows-xp-thunderbird-1-0/
15:20 TR Bot; Thunderbird Time Machine: Windows XP + Thunderbird 1.0
15:24 TR News; 2022-08-18: Love Of My Life gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~scientiac/poems/love_of_my_life.gmi
15:24 TR News; SpellBinding: AYDILPC Wordo: SOURS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-18.gmi
15:26 TR News; (New Entry): Today in Techrights https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
15:26 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
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15:34 psymin; are there any functional modern browsers that aren't webkit-based or touched by mozilla?
15:34 techuser; NetSurf
15:35 techuser; though don't expect anything with JS to open in it, even though it supports a bit of JS
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; it worms om with my site
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; and also tm and tr
15:36 schestowitz[TR]; *ok
15:37 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/confession/254206
15:37 TR Bot; Prigozhin says right away 80% will not be coming back. How inmates are recruited into Wagner PMC to fight in Ukraine
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15:41 schestowitz[TR]; death sentence?
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; "you do not need to become a war criminal"
15:42 schestowitz[TR]; "when you're recruited into a war... for being a criminal"
15:43 schestowitz[TR]; method of execution: US-made weapons
15:46 TR News; (New Entry): Security Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi
15:46 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
15:56 TR News; "We cover events and user groups that are running in the US state of Texas. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-texas/
15:56 TR Bot; Around The World: USA - Texas - LinuxLinks
15:57 TR News; (New Entry): Programming Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
15:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
15:58 TR News; (New Entry): Today's Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_leftovers.gmi
15:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers"
15:59 TR News; (New Entry): Devices: Raspberry Pi 4, MediaTek, SeeedStudio, and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_4_MediaTek_SeeedStudio_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Devices_Raspberry_Pi_4_MediaTek_SeeedStudio_and_More.gmi
15:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Devices: Raspberry Pi 4, MediaTek, SeeedStudio, and More
16:01 TR News; Links 18/08/2022: LibreOffice 7.4, KaOS 2022.08, and Krita 5.1.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/libreoffice-7-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/18/libreoffice-7-4/
16:01 TR Bot; Links 18/08/2022: LibreOffice 7.4, KaOS 2022.08, and Krita 5.1.0 | Techrights
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17:00 TR News; Trial of Microsofts Serial Strangler, Who Also Manages GitHubs Copilot | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/trial-of-alex-graveley/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/18/trial-of-alex-graveley/
17:01 TR Bot; Trial of Microsofts Serial Strangler, Who Also Manages GitHubs Copilot | Techrights
17:07 XRevan86; https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/17/europe/crimea-explosions-russia-ukraine-intl/index.html
17:07 TR Bot; Ukraine admits it was behind three explosions in Crimea. Here's what we know - CNN
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18:05 TR News; Cool Retro Term Is A Blast From The Past - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MB7QYyz-hc0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/MB7QYyz-hc0
18:05 TR Bot; Cool Retro Term Is A Blast From The Past - Invidious
18:06 TR News; "The starting state of our environment is two separate RHEL 8 instances that are up and running and on the same network. One will run RHEL Identity Management and the other will run the single sign-on service." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/integrating-identity-management-single-sign-red-hat-solutions
18:06 TR Bot; Integrating identity management with single sign-on for Red Hat solutions
18:08 TR News; SQL: The Universal Solvent for REST APIs OReilly https://www.oreilly.com/radar/sql-the-universal-solvent-for-rest-apis/ Source: oreilly | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.oreilly.com/radar/sql-the-universal-solvent-for-rest-apis/
18:08 TR Bot; SQL: The Universal Solvent for REST APIs OReilly
18:09 TR News; As we shall see later in this still-ongoing series, Microsoft's money has helped a serial strangler in evading accountability for violent actions; such incidents are part of a recurrent pattern (multiple victims); violence against women is, on the face is, fully compatible with Microsoft management and the media is failing to report on this (intentionally) http://techrights.org/2022/08/18/trial-of-alex-graveley/
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18:10 TR News; VLC BANNED in India, Pine64 troubles, and Linux is unstable? - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MXlsgBNRTR4 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/MXlsgBNRTR4
18:10 TR Bot; VLC BANNED in India, Pine64 troubles, and Linux is unstable? - Linux and Open Source News - Invidious
18:11 TR News; Ubuntu Server 22.04 Live Installer Walkthrough - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Lj5qHBjSfMo | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Lj5qHBjSfMo
18:11 TR Bot; Ubuntu Server 22.04 Live Installer Walkthrough - Invidious
18:11 TR News; Debian 11.4.0 "Bullseye" Quick overview #linux #debian - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GG9pDKm4fug | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/GG9pDKm4fug
18:11 TR Bot; Debian 11.4.0 "Bullseye" Quick overview #linux #debian - Invidious
18:11 TR News; Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Xfce overview | Light, simple, efficient - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Lj9W1krJoN0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Lj9W1krJoN0
18:11 TR Bot; Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Xfce overview | Light, simple, efficient - Invidious
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:08 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22080844
19:08 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/y891i3bym5f91.jpg created on 2022-08-08 14:41:39.900170
19:09 XRevan86; MinceR: Explain?
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19:11 MinceR; XRevan86: it's a pun
19:11 MinceR; your body being like a 19y old vs you owning the corpse of a 19y old
19:12 XRevan86; MinceR: Ah.
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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19:25 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> MinceR: Explain?
19:26 DaemonFC; EXPLAAAAAIN!!!! EXXXXXPLAAAAAAAIIIIINNNNNN!!!!!!
19:26 XRevan86; I got it, just a bit inattentive.
19:26 phanes; Ariadne has the best twitter posts lately: https://imgur.com/18qtHvO.png
19:26 MinceR; :)
19:27 DaemonFC; VLC banned in India.
19:27 DaemonFC; Well, it's open source, so good luck with that.
19:27 XRevan86; phanes: If only these posts were cross-posted from elsewhere
19:28 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/ariadneconill/status/1511484341515436039 almost as if
19:28 TR Bot; Conill (@ariadneconill): "incidentally, i refuse to play on @elonmusk's twitter, so you can find me at https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne"|nitter.it
19:28 DaemonFC; To give effect to that order would be impossible. I mean they can block a few Web sites and get some backdoored crAPP stores to hide it if you're in India.
19:28 DaemonFC; But they can't get it removed from the entire Internet.
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19:30 MinceR; :)
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19:36 britney; =)
19:37 Ariadne; phanes: what is your handle
19:39 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/note-pass.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-note-pass#comic )
19:39 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
19:41 Ariadne; actually i think i found it
19:41 Ariadne; unblocked
19:41 *Ariadne shrugs
19:41 MinceR; :)
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19:42 XRevan86; CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-August-17-08-18
19:42 TR Bot; Dispatch for August 17 Telegraph
19:42 XRevan86; Ariadne: Do I understand it right that Twitter blocks blocked people from viewing public posts?
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19:44 Ariadne; yes, i have a policy of blocking those who block me (when i become aware of it) since its a common stalking tactic on that crappy website
19:45 XRevan86; It just feels weird that logging into Twitter can give less content than staying logged out, there's something counter-intuitive to that.
19:46 Ariadne; social media is bad tbh
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19:50 XRevan86; Ariadne: No doubt to that.
19:50 XRevan86; This particular measure feels like a response to demands like "I only agreed to have this post on Twitter, remove it from nitter.net NOW!"
19:51 XRevan86; There was a person making that exact (not verbatim) complaint :). Don't remember where exactly, possibly even here.
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19:52 MinceR; shitter is pretty hostile to users in general
19:53 MinceR; they've seriously ramped up the bloat on their site
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20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:21 britney; at least twitter isn't facebook
20:21 britney; facebook is the worst
20:25 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/chase-the-ball.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-chase-the-ball#comic )
20:25 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
20:26 XRevan86; What's this Facebook thing ye speak of?
20:27 britney; the worst social network
20:27 XRevan86; Is that the website which requires me to register to see a bloody post that everyone else seems to be able to view without registration?
20:27 britney; yeah
20:28 XRevan86; There are tricks like if a post is not visible on the normal website, try it with the mobile one, or vice-versa.
20:28 XRevan86; For me that works only very rarely though.
20:32 TR News; (New Entry): Digital Signage and Kiosk With Ubuntu https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Digital_Signage_and_Kiosk_With_Ubuntu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Digital_Signage_and_Kiosk_With_Ubuntu.gmi
20:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Digital Signage and Kiosk With Ubuntu"
20:33 britney; the post has to be set for public to show up logged out
20:33 TR News; (New Entry): : Google Android Leftovers https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Android_Leftovers.4.gmi
20:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
20:33 XRevan86; britney: There's something that makes even those posts unviewable.
20:34 MinceR; does faecesbook has some agreement/arrangement with the government of orcland?
20:34 XRevan86; Don't know, maybe it doesn't trust both my own IP and my VPS'.
20:34 MinceR; s/as/ave/
20:35 XRevan86; "book" is singular, so "has" works.
20:35 britney; government of orcland?
20:36 XRevan86; britney: He means my emperor Pya V.V.
20:36 MinceR; "has" doesn't work with "does", though :>
20:36 XRevan86; MinceR: Ah, right, misread.
20:37 MinceR; britney: government of the orcish empire
20:37 britney; who is the orcish empire
20:37 britney; russia?
20:37 MinceR; yes
20:38 XRevan86; https://vikiperm.com/frontend/web/uploads/2019/dekabr_2019/ggg.png
20:38 MinceR; what does Pynya mean?
20:39 TR News; "The job was never intended to be remote, our office is 15 miles away. But I've only met two people on my team one time when I started working here. I always kind of joked that I'd probably never make it into the office, that I'd be gone before the pandemic ended. Sure enough I was right." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1107
20:39 XRevan86; MinceR: An old meme: https://lurkmore.rip/Po/
20:39 TR Bot; Po/ Lurkmore
20:39 TR News; SSH Notes gemini://josias.dev/gemlog/ssh-notes.gmi
20:40 MinceR; ic
20:40 XRevan86; Used to be a pro-Kremlin caricature on a liberal/dissident, then got quickly turned into Putin.
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20:43 MinceR; :)
20:43 TR News; "Lumen interviews Ernesto van der Sar of TorrentFreak" https://lumen_cms/blog_entries/lumen-researcher-interview-series-ernesto-van-der-sar-of-torrentfreak
20:43 TR Bot; not resolve host: lumen_cms; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://lumen_cms/blog_entries/lumen-researcher-interview-series-ernesto-van-der-sar-of-torrentfreak )
20:46 XRevan86; 2020: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/08/18/perm-court-sentences-activists-accused-of-dressing-a-putin-mannequin-in-a-prisoner-s-uniform "Perm court sentences activists accused of dressing a Putin mannequin in a prisoners uniform"
20:46 TR Bot; NO TITLE
20:46 XRevan86; The whole story to whom it may be of interest.
20:49 TR News; Top 5 IoT challenges and how to solve them https://ubuntu.com//blog/top-5-iot-challenges
20:49 TR Bot; 5 IoT challenges and how to solve them | Ubuntu
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20:50 XRevan86; If this happened today, I wouldn't have even posted about it, it's the new normal.
20:50 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/18/lviv-hosts-erdogan-un-chief-guterres-for-talks-with-zelensky-news "Lviv hosts Erdogan, UN chief Guterres for talks with Zelensky"
20:50 TR News; CISA covering up for Microsoft again. "Linux based products" is NOT "Equipment" name. They just try to blame "Linux" for something unrelated. https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-131-03
20:50 TR Bot; .
20:50 TR Bot; Siemens Linux-based Products (Update J) | CISA
20:52 TR News; Severity 9.8 out of 10. Did CIA not find some angles through which to blame "Linux" for this one? Maybe this is Windows? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-194-07
20:52 TR Bot; Siemens Industrial Products LLDP (Update D) | CISA
20:53 TR News; They probably just use a very old version of OpenSSL https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-167-14
20:53 TR Bot; Siemens OpenSSL Affected Industrial Products (Update B) | CISA
20:53 TR News; Mailchimp is still silencing activists in Russia - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/mailchimp-is-still-silencing-activists-in-russia/ Source: accessnow | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.accessnow.org/mailchimp-is-still-silencing-activists-in-russia/
20:53 TR Bot; Mailchimp is still silencing activists in Russia - Access Now
20:54 XRevan86; "MailChimp" <- Oh crap, this is over Meduza isn't it?
20:54 TR News; just-in-time code generation within webassembly https://wingolog.org/archives/2022/08/18/just-in-time-code-generation-within-webassembly
20:54 TR Bot; just-in-time code generation within webassembly -- wingolog
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20:55 XRevan86; Ah, no, it's something else.
20:56 XRevan86; I got worried because MailChimp actually got blocked in Russia just now over the mailing list that Meduza is running.
20:56 TR News; This seems like a DUPLICATE of the Siemens one https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-221-01
20:56 TR Bot; Mitsubishi Electric Multiple Factory Automation Products (Update A) | CISA
20:57 XRevan86; "These include prominent Russian media organizations" <- Indeed are.
20:57 XRevan86; prominent that is
20:57 TR News; "In his latest blogpost, p6steve went through a lot of trouble to enforce definedness. I managed to shorten it a bit." https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2022/08/18/defeating-definedness/
20:57 TR Bot; Defeating definedness | Playing Perl 6b6xA Raku
20:58 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22080164
20:58 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/awxvtyydzxd91.jpg created on 2022-08-01 20:07:29.199537
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 62.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 88.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 46.03
20:59 TR News; "Cisco can only move so fast to find alternative suppliers for power supplies and other key components, and we cannot predict what coronavirus, monkeypox, and flu might do to manufacturing operations around the globe." https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/08/18/the-supply-chain-boa-constrictor-still-tight-around-cisco/
↺ https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/08/18/the-supply-chain-boa-constrictor-still-tight-around-cisco/
20:59 TR Bot; The Supply Chain Boa Constrictor Still Tight Around Cisco
21:00 TR News; We cannot pretend COVID-19 is not here, says WHO Chief https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/22052-we-cannot-pretend-covid-19-is-not-here-says-who-chief.html
21:00 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/22052-we-cannot-pretend-covid-19-is-not-here-says-who-chief.html )
21:02 TR News; Google Ads, Apple Ads, while Purism Adds https://puri.sm/posts/google-ads-apple-ads-while-purism-adds/ Source: puri | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//puri.sm/posts/google-ads-apple-ads-while-purism-adds/
21:02 TR Bot; Google Ads, Apple Ads, while Purism Adds Purism
21:03 TR News; Hands on vDPA: what do you do when you ain't got the hardware v2 (Part 2) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/hands-vdpa-what-do-you-do-when-you-aint-got-hardware-part-2 Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.redhat.com/en/blog/hands-vdpa-what-do-you-do-when-you-aint-got-hardware-part-2
21:03 TR Bot; Hands on vDPA: what do you do when you ain't got the hardware v2 (Part 2)
21:04 TR News; Apple Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/18/apple-releases-security-updates-multiple-products
21:04 TR Bot; Apple Releases Security Updates for Multiple Products | CISA
21:04 TR News; "A remote attacker could exploitsomeof these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system. For updates addressing lower severity vulnerabilities, see the Cisco Security Advisories page." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/18/cisco-releases-security-update-cisco-secure-web-appliance
21:04 TR Bot; Cisco Releases Security Update for Cisco Secure Web Appliance | CISA
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21:08 TR News; Gartner is a Microsoft- and Bill Gates-funded propaganda agency and we oughtn't quote what it says about Linux (or almost anything for that matter) https://blog.morphisec.com/linux-cyber-security-gartners-cwpp-insights see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
21:08 TR Bot; Linux Cyber Security: Gartners CWPP Insights Revealed
21:08 TR Bot; Gartner Group - Techrights
21:09 TR News; x86/Intel severely defective. It's a hardware issue. Not the fault of Linux. The fault of reckless companies that work for Intel Agencies. https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?id=7df548840c496b0141fb2404b889c346380c2b22
21:09 TR Bot; kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
21:10 TR News; Bullshit buzzwords comes to someplace. Who writes such trash? Here, a Microsoft propaganda rag, "Virtualization Review" https://virtualizationreview.com/articles/2022/08/18/africarare.aspx
21:10 TR Bot; The Metaverse Comes to Africa -- Virtualization Review
21:11 TR News; "For a quasi-more traditional laptop experience, Dell also announced its XPS 13 Plus Developer Edition that takes all the visual trimmings of the new XPS 13 Plus but swaps Windows for Linux, starting at $1,299 US or $1,769 CAD." But Dell is ripping off GNU/Linux users. It's still a Microsoft company/OEM.https://www.onmsft.com/news/dells-4k-webcam-available-today-and-new-13-inch-tablet-shipping-next-week-linux-powered-xps-plus-coming-
21:11 TR Bot; News - OnMSFT.com
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21:15 TR News; State of Postgres | Timescale https://www.timescale.com/state-of-postgres/2022/ Source: timescale
21:15 TR Bot; of Postgres | Timescale
21:15 TR News; 393.5 - $HOME Decor - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/08/18/393-5-home-decor/ Source: mintcast | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mintcast.org/2022/08/18/393-5-home-decor/
21:15 TR Bot; 393.5 $HOME Decor mintCast
21:17 TR News; About 30% of these are Microsoft and almost 30% are Apple https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/08/18/cisa-adds-seven-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
21:17 TR Bot; CISA Adds Seven Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 TR News; "I work for MongoDB, and used to work for AWS" and now I write puff pieces for AWS... and the "media" wants us to think of it as "journalism" https://www.techrepublic.com/article/opensearch-grading-aws-open-source/
21:20 TR Bot; year of OpenSearch: Grading AWS open source effort | TechRepublic
21:21 TR News; (UPDATED): These are the Best New Features in GNOME 43 (UPDATED) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/These_are_the_Best_New_Features_in_GNOME_43.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/These_are_the_Best_New_Features_in_GNOME_43.gmi
21:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines These are the Best New Features in GNOME 43 (UPDATED)
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21:22 TR News; Back to the Future remote shows real DeLorean speed | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/18/back-to-the-future-remote-shows-real-delorean-speed/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/08/18/back-to-the-future-remote-shows-real-delorean-speed/
21:22 TR Bot; Back to the Future remote shows real DeLorean speed | Arduino Blog
21:24 TR News; LF, which enables fraud and scams, is now openly promoting its ludicrous diploma mills; this harms the reputation of the Linux brand https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/secure-coding-practice-a-developers-learning-experience-of-developing-secure-software-course/ http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/
21:24 TR Bot; Secure Coding Practice A Developers Learning Experience of Developing Secure Software Course - Linux Foundation
21:24 TR Bot; New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights
21:24 AdmFubar; https://www.wired.com/story/europe-spyware-scandals-greece/
21:24 TR Bot; Scandals Are Ripping Through Europe | WIRED
21:25 TR News; Add optional __Bfloat16 support https://groups.google.com/g/x86-64-abi/c/FHNHJYuKBMM
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21:25 TR Bot; Re: [PATCH] Add optional __Bfloat16 support
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21:33 TR News; (New Entry): Today's HowTos https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/today_s_howtos.2.gmi
21:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos"
21:33 TR News; (New Entry): Security: Holes, FUD, and Diploma Mills https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Security_Holes_FUD_and_Diploma_Mills.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Security_Holes_FUD_and_Diploma_Mills.gmi
21:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security: Holes, FUD, and Diploma Mills
21:33 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: not just europe ;-)
21:36 TR News; Brain Fart gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-08-18-brain-fart.gmi
21:36 TR News; "A couple of days ago I went off on a tangent. I noticed that a bunch of SpellBinding words ending in -WOOD were missing from the dictionary. I put together a list of 87 words ending in WOOD, a list that expanded rapidly to 207 words." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-08-18.scraping.gmi
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21:40 TR News; (New Entry): Videos/Shows: mintCast, Debian, Ubuntu, and More https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Videos_Shows_mintCast_Debian_Ubuntu_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Videos_Shows_mintCast_Debian_Ubuntu_and_More.gmi
21:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines Videos/Shows: mintCast, Debian, Ubuntu, and More
21:44 TR News; (New Entry): Devices: Arduino, Librem, and Ubuntu on Devices https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Devices_Arduino_Librem_and_Ubuntu_on_Devices.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Devices_Arduino_Librem_and_Ubuntu_on_Devices.gmi
21:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines Devices: Arduino, Librem, and Ubuntu on Devices
21:46 TR News; Openwashing https://anchor.fm/ossstartuppodcast/episodes/E46-Flexible-Open-Source-Data-Labeling-at-Scale-with-Heartex-e1mhq2u
21:46 TR Bot; E46: Flexible Open Source Data Labeling at Scale with Heartex by Open Source Startup Podcast
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21:46 AdmFubar; https://www.pogowasright.org/parliaments-top-security-committee-to-probe-rcmps-use-of-spyware/
21:46 TR Bot; Parliaments top security committee to probe RCMPs use of spyware
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21:48 TR News; There is no place for secret ministers in Australian democracy - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/there-is-no-place-for-secret-ministers-in-australian-democracy/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/there-is-no-place-for-secret-ministers-in-australian-democracy/
21:48 TR Bot; There is no place for secret ministers in Australian democracy - Michael West
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21:49 TR News; "Ive had this post in my drafts folder for months now Actually, its ever since I realised how hard it is to manage content with Static Site Generators, and flipped back to WordPress." https://kevq.uk/static-site-generators-are-easy-to-useright/
21:49 TR Bot; Static Site Generators Are Easy to UseRight? - Kev Quirk
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21:51 TR News; How you end up with 800 GiB of audio https://rubenerd.com/cleaning-two-decades-of-family-music/
21:51 TR Bot; Cleaning two decades of family music
21:51 TR News; Albanese may have given kiss of death to governor-general - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/albanese-may-have-given-kiss-of-death-to-governor-general/ Source: michaelwest | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/albanese-may-have-given-kiss-of-death-to-governor-general/
21:51 TR Bot; Albanese may have given kiss of death to governor-general - Michael West
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21:59 TR News; Why did LXer editor add Microsoft propaganda... from 2014... in 2022? http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/319827/index.html
21:59 TR Bot; Redmond's Remarkable Reversal
22:03 TR News; The managers and almost all assistant managers are Spanish. Reminders me of EPO 'diversity' https://www.mancity.com/players/mens
22:04 TR Bot; Manchester City Squad Players
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22:14 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/christmasfruit.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-christmasfruit#comic )
22:14 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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22:18 TR News; (New Entry): KaOS 2022.08 Brings PipeWire by Default, Improved Installer, and Latest KDE Goodies https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/KaOS_2022_08_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/KaOS_2022_08_Released.gmi
22:18 TR Bot; Tux Machines KaOS 2022.08 Brings PipeWire by Default, Improved Installer, and Latest KDE Goodies
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:25 TR News; Latest on SCO case: "I just checked Pacer, and there's no activity since April 26, when Judge Ruth Miller issued an order on a stay of discovery until the transfer of venue request is decided (IBM requested the stay, Xinuos opposed it). The 7-page opinion is on my Dropbox (if somebody wants it elsewhere please feel free...). https://grokthelaw.freeforums.net/thread/390/xinuos-deja-all-over-again"
22:25 TR Bot; Xinuos - It's deja vu all over again | GroktheLaw
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22:26 TR News; Intel Alder Lake Is Breaking Linux Webcam Support - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YeTcG67bx1Q | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/YeTcG67bx1Q
22:26 TR Bot; Intel Alder Lake Is Breaking Linux Webcam Support - Invidious
22:28 TR News; Alder Lake Laptop Webcam Support in Linux is Super Shaky https://www.tomshardware.com/news/alder-lake-laptop-wonky-webcam-support
22:28 TR Bot; Alder Lake Laptop Webcam Support in Linux is Super Shaky | Tom's Hardware
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22:32 TR News; Raspberry Pi Pico W Doorbell Sends Telegram Alerts | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-doorbell-telegram Source: tomshardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-doorbell-telegram
22:32 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Pico W Doorbell Sends Telegram Alerts | Tom's Hardware
22:33 TR News; (New Entry): FreeBSD Foundation Q2 2022 Status Update https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/FreeBSD_Foundation_Q2_2022_Status_Update.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/FreeBSD_Foundation_Q2_2022_Status_Update.gmi
22:33 TR Bot; Tux Machines FreeBSD Foundation Q2 2022 Status Update
22:33 TR News; "Lawyers for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange sued the US Central Intelligence Agency and its former director Mike Pompeo on Monday, alleging it recorded their conversations and copied data from their phones and computers." https://www.securityweek.com/assange-lawyers-sue-cia-spying-them
22:34 TR Bot; Lawyers Sue CIA for Spying on Them | SecurityWeek.Com
22:34 TR News; "Legal proceedings in Spanish courts against the head of that firm, David Morales, heard testimony in 2020 that Assanges visitors had the data on their phones copied unknowingly when they were required to hand over their belongings to Morales staff." https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/assange-lawyers-sue-mike-pompeo-for-spying-on-the-wikileaks-founder-in-london-20220816-p5ba3i.html
22:34 TR Bot; Assange lawyers sue Mike Pompeo for spying on him and visitors
22:35 TR News; There should be sanctions, even up to dismissal of those charges, or withdrawal of an extradition request in response to these blatantly unconstitutional activities" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/CIA-and-Pompeo-Sued-for-Spying-on-Assanges-Visitors-at-Embassy-20220816-0007.html
22:35 TR Bot; CIA and Pompeo Sued for Spying on Assange's Visitors at Embassy | News | teleSUR English
22:36 TR News; ""The United States Constitution shields American citizens from U.S. government overreach even when the activities take place in a foreign embassy in a foreign country," said Richard Roth, the lead attorney representing the plaintiffs." https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-08-15/cia-sued-over-alleged-spying-on-lawyers-journalists-who-met-assange
22:37 TR News; "Two lawyers and two journalists are suing the CIA, saying the agency obtained copies of the contents of their electronic devices and helped enable the recording of their meetings with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange." https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-08-16/lawsuit-alleges-cia-got-phone-contents-from-assange-visitors
22:37 britney; "YoU wOUldN'T sTeaL a CaR!"
22:37 britney; if i could download a car, yeah
22:37 britney; i would
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22:37 britney; i wonder if you could 3D print a car
22:37 TR News; "Hornberger's piece is not directly about Trump but rather a response to the continued U.S. prosecution of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange." https://reason.com/2022/08/15/sen-rand-paul-proposes-dumping-entire-espionage-act/
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22:38 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
22:39 TR News; Journalists and lawyers sue CIA for spying on them while visiting WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/08/journalists-and-lawyers-sue-cia-for-spying-on-them-while-visiting-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange/
22:39 TR Bot; Journalists and lawyers sue CIA for spying on them while visiting WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange - JURIST - News
22:40 TR News; "Then jump a few decades ahead and think of Julian Assange, still being held against his will for his revealing publications in WikiLeaks on war crimes committed by the United States." https://off-guardian.org/2022/08/13/the-horrendous-damage-of-censorship/
22:40 TR Bot; The Horrendous Damage of Censorship OffGuardian
22:40 britney; We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
22:40 britney; Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.
22:43 TR News; Seems more like marketing webspam than a review to me. Sadly, this has become far too common... https://www.engadget.com/the-morning-after-e-as-last-fifa-game-is-finally-making-womens-soccer-a-priority-111502338.html?src=rss
22:43 TR Bot; Morning After: Our verdict on the Pixel 6a | Engadget
22:43 britney; Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
22:45 TR News; "Right-wing culture warriors recently attacked Immanuel Kant as the father of critical race theory. Now, figures like Charlie Kirk are going after Baruch Spinoza a radical enlightenment thinker who can actually teach us a few things about how to fight the Right." https://jacobin.com/2022/08/charlie-kirk-right-wing-baruch-spinoza-conspiracy-freedom/
22:45 TR Bot; Charlie Kirk Is Right to Be Afraid of Spinoza
22:46 britney; https://www.vice.com/en/article/93aan8/widely-mocked-anti-piracy-ads-made-people-pirate-more-study-finds
22:46 TR Bot; Widely Mocked Anti-Piracy Ads Made People Pirate More, Study Finds
22:46 DaemonFC; https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-earnings-shoppers-swapping-lunch-meat-for-beans-inflation-2022-8
22:46 TR Bot; Walmart Shoppers Are Swapping Lunch Meat for Beans
22:47 DaemonFC; Beans beans they're good for the heart the more you eat the more you fart. The more you fart, the better you feel, so let's eat beans for every meal!
22:47 TR News; Frauds and bullshit artists on other frauds and bullshit artists. "Musk will try to bail on his $44 billion agreement to buy Twitter" https://www.axios.com/2022/07/10/donald-trump-elon-musk-twitter
22:47 TR Bot; Trump slams Elon Musk as "another b------t artist" at Alaska rally
22:48 TR News; Zimbabwes censorship board bans Danish documentary about opposition leader https://cpj.org/2022/08/zimbabwes-censorship-board-bans-danish-documentary-about-opposition-leader/
22:48 TR Bot; Zimbabwes censorship board bans Danish documentary about opposition leader - Committee to Protect Journalists
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22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 20.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 41.18
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23:06 hossa; made a decision: i'll freeze
23:08 hossa; i'll archive the tcc-toolchain profile, the C-parts are done; it's the ASM specifics which lock out tcc-assembler
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; freeze what?
23:08 DaemonFC; I love the state of Illinois.
23:08 schestowitz[TR]; "this sh*** is ILL"
23:08 DaemonFC; Where half the government Web sites want you to use Chrome and the other half say you need Microsoft Edge.
23:08 hossa; and the ASM-related issues, can't sufficiently be stabilized;
23:09 hossa; well, w3m/lynx/links is what i got still, this must suffice; freezed.
23:09 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: they know their sites are broken
23:09 schestowitz[TR]; and they prepare their "defence"
23:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The court Web site for expungement cases say you need Microsoft Edge to edit a PDF.
23:09 DaemonFC; And don't try to do it in anything else.
23:09 DaemonFC; I something producing "special" PDF files that only work in Edge now?
23:10 britney; hossa = ulf/earthling/etc
23:10 *hossa is now known as heureka
23:11 TR News; "Newsboat is a great open source RSS reader for open source operating systems such as FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and Linux. Elfeed is a RSS reader that runs in Emacs." https://box.matto.nl/why-rss-is-important.html
23:11 TR Bot; RSS is important - box.matto.nl
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23:11 XRevan86; > hossa is now known as heureka
23:11 britney; yeah lol
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23:12 XRevan86; britney: The main nickname we all know is activelow, before the shenanigans.
23:12 britney; heureka = hossa/ulf/earthling
23:12 heureka; _finally_ decided to terminate, i'll not continue, i'll simply freeze
23:12 techuser; fuck ergo ircd
23:12 britney; XRevan86, good to know, i didnt know this was the same person
23:13 techuser; if there wasn't "unregister" shit, they could just register activelow again maybe
23:13 XRevan86; britney: I mean, I called him activelow repeatedly.
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23:13 britney; XRevan86, hossa/heureka?
23:13 XRevan86; techuser: There's a setting that can disable this behaviour.
23:13 XRevan86; britney: yes
23:13 techuser; another issue is that people often don't read configs and/or agree that default settings are ok
23:14 britney; i thought i was the first to notice
23:14 heureka; tcc-toolchain is done, however, not worth the effort, because ASM-specifics inside _all_ libc i checked, none passed with tcc-assembler, compiler and linker are ok
23:14 heureka; however, vendor-specific and gnu-specific ASM is the final stroke
23:14 XRevan86; Well, it's too easy not to notice, I can't give you an award for that even if ye did :D.
23:15 britney; its pretty easy based on what they say
23:15 heureka; oh man, i had seen that much dirt all over the place, i can't drink as much as i wanted to puke over it
23:15 XRevan86; britney: Yea, it's a Mr Hilter situation :).
23:16 heureka; gcc47 is the last one, and no more upgrades of this
23:16 britney; oh yeah, heureka loves Hitler
23:16 heureka; pardon what?
23:16 XRevan86; britney: I meant https://youtu.be/hWIyVRNAxCg
23:16 TR Bot; https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=hWIyVRNAxCg
23:17 heureka; the question isn't anymore _if_ i terminate the salvage operation, question is _how_ it's best terminated
23:17 TR Bot; ( status 504 @ https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=hWIyVRNAxCg )
23:18 britney; XRevan86, classic clip
23:18 XRevan86; A bit chopped unfortunately.
23:18 XRevan86; But ye know about the sketch so it's good enough :).
23:19 heureka; i mean, if i wanted to do ASM hacking, i wouldn't choose aarch32/64 or x86/64 anyway
23:19 XRevan86; https://lbry.tv/@BritishComedy:c/MrHilter:2
23:19 TR Bot; Mr Hilter - Monty Python
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23:19 heureka; and this is the blocker: vendor-specific and gnu-specific asm extensions, which require binutils-as, with _ALL_ libc i knew
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:20 heureka; a rewrite of both tcc-assembler and the asm-specifics inside those libc-variants (uclibc,musl,dietlibc), thats feasible, but too much effort, and, NOT worth the effort
23:21 heureka; then, tcc doesn't support _Complex extension, i could deal with this, required by musl-libc... but musl-libc requires a fat binutils-as anyway, so why bother?
23:22 heureka; there's exactly two components remaining, "only", linux kernel and musl-libc all else passed compile-time check and some runtime testing
23:22 heureka; i simply archive this, and freeze the gcc47 variant
23:23 heureka; done. not worth the effort anymore. that's the point.
23:23 heureka; there's too many other issues
23:24 heureka; another one, which contributed to the stroke: downgrade of dev-lang/perl to v5.8.6 from year 2005 was necssary to compile and succed with tcc
23:24 heureka; and this, is another huge potential trouble source, again, with GNU autotools/automate
23:24 heureka; no, enough, done. no more updates.
23:24 heureka; freeze.
23:24 TR News; Experimenting with Night Colour mode in latest KDE Plasma (KDE Neon). Not sure how much of the concept is science-based rather than gimmick.
23:25 XRevan86; britney: Or activelow wants to be a superhero, he changes the nickname like Superman removes his spectacles, and suddenly no one is able to recognise him. But there's a failsafe: if someone does recognise him and the nickname is compromised, he can just make a new one, and we'll be none the wiser.
23:25 heureka; maybe then i can reduce my weekly working hourse from 70 down to something reasonable.
23:25 XRevan86; britney: It's a perfect crime :)
23:25 britney; XRevan86, he always talks about the same thing, its so easy to detect him
23:26 britney; always has a running commentary on his compilation process
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23:26 heureka; britney: i tried to salvage the last remains of "free software"
23:26 britney; then you say he likes Hitler and hes like "pardon?"
23:27 XRevan86; Freedom 0: Software should be written in such a way that it always does what activelow wants.
23:27 XRevan86; Or is it Freedom -1?
23:27 XRevan86; The most important of them all.
23:28 heureka; XRevan86: i want to be able to hack and have fun with the software advertised as "free"
23:28 heureka; and dozens of millions of LoC and hours of compilation time aren't fun
23:28 britney; XRevan86, Everything that doesn't work with tinycc is designed that way to reduce our freedumbs
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23:29 XRevan86; britney: Be grateful that he doesn't feed that code to a Pascal compiler.
23:29 heureka; what are you referring to? tcc contains several toolchain-components, and it's the AS utility which is troublesome
23:29 TR News; (New Entry): Stargazing, solutions and staycations: the Kubernetes 1.24 release interview https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Stargazing_solutions_and_staycations_the_Kubernetes_1_24_releas.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Stargazing_solutions_and_staycations_the_Kubernetes_1_24_releas.gmi
23:29 TR Bot; Tux Machines Stargazing, solutions and staycations: the Kubernetes 1.24 release interview
23:29 MinceR; <q1EnforcerVoice> Freeze! </q1EnforcerVoice>
23:29 heureka; mainly because of, vendor-specific and gnu-specific asm extensions....
23:29 heureka; this can't be repaired by tcc
23:29 britney; everything tcc can't compile is part of a conspiracy
23:30 heureka; either it's blown up with features and extensions, which contradicts the design philosophy, or it can't digest particular asm-specifics
23:30 heureka; simple as that, and in any case to adress such issues is both alot of effort, and too NOT worth the effort
23:30 MinceR; makes me wonder whether tcc can compile anything released by the Conspiracy demoscene group
23:30 XRevan86; And when the Turbo C++ Compiler (tcc) can't compile it, it's a double conspiracy.
23:31 MinceR; lol
23:31 heureka; of the package set of 600 builds picked (no-c++/c-only toolchain profile), 99.9% did pass
23:31 heureka; however the last remaining two, musl-libc and kernel...
23:32 heureka; furthermore, it's just a test-run, to verify compliance with an alternative compiler to gcc/llvm
23:32 heureka; and this verification did SUCCEED
23:32 heureka; however, there is too many other problems
23:32 heureka; which I say, not worth the effort anymore
23:33 heureka; i'll simply freeze at gcc47 c-only toolchain system profile, archive the tcc-toolchain profile, and reduce weekly working hours -60hours
23:33 heureka; because, i think, my opinion, any system deployment cannot be sufficiently stabilized anymore to a baseline to continue with
23:34 britney; i think we are dealing with the IBM Wintel Pentagon conspiracy
23:34 heureka; i had to block at gcc47, which is 10yeas old already, and even this one is NOT what i consider sufficiently stabilized
23:34 TR News; Marginaliacoin, and hidden forum gemini://marginalia.nu/log/62-marginaliacoin.gmi
23:34 heureka; ok, go ahead, pull in laters compilers and toolchains and whatnot, i won't
23:35 heureka; i FREEZE, and terminate
23:35 britney; terminate! terminate!
23:35 TR News; "These days I've been working on a hex map generator for the terminal. Yeah, I don't expect anybody else to be using it. It works via SSH instead of via a browser. I was trying to see how far I could go, and I've been using some interesting libraries from the Charm family to do it..." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-08-18%20A%20map%20generator%20for%20the%20terminal
23:35 heureka; yes, question isn't anymore _if_ i'll terminate, question is _how_ i'll do it
23:35 TR News; (New Entry): Intel Alder Lake is Not for Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Intel_Alder_Lake_is_Not_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/18/Intel_Alder_Lake_is_Not_for_Linux.gmi
23:35 TR Bot; Tux Machines Intel Alder Lake is Not for Linux
23:36 heureka; i won't continue with this anymore, no more updates, none
23:36 heureka; gcc47, w3m/lynx browser, this stuff, done.
23:36 heureka; i am close to terminating internet too.
23:36 britney; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU
23:36 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=mxD-5z_xHBU
23:36 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | Dalek - EXTERMINATE! - Invidious
23:38 heureka; situation is, i think, it's not at least possible to hack z80 or gigatron things, without _online_ internet access to documents
23:38 XRevan86; https://yewtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9w
23:38 TR Bot; Peter Griffin Who The Hell Cares? - Invidious
23:39 heureka; i mean the ttl7400 series, pencil, paper, with this they went to the moon late 1960s
23:39 heureka; apollo mission
23:39 heureka; without internet
23:39 heureka; that's irony, i think, you can't do ttl7400 and asm hacking and maths, without _online_ access to documentation nowadays
23:39 heureka; 50years, you could go to university, and work with it
23:39 heureka; no internet
23:40 heureka; they managed to fly to the moon
23:40 heureka; *50 years ago
23:41 heureka; i grew up, without internet, for a long time
23:41 heureka; most of it, waste of time
23:41 britney; we know
23:41 britney; nobody cares
23:41 heureka; i do
23:42 heureka; i was searching, and testing, for 10 years, a system which doesn't get into my way
23:42 heureka; with maths, and reading
23:43 MinceR; 19 003510 < britney> terminate! terminate!
23:43 MinceR; EXTERMINATE!
23:43 heureka; i think BillG had implemented some lunar lander program, in BASIC
23:43 heureka; or something, that's the intersting stuff
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23:43 heureka; still is.
23:43 britney; MinceR, i love dr who
23:43 MinceR; :)
23:44 heureka; that's something, nowadays, almost lost: pencil paper books some ttl7400 series parts
23:44 XRevan86; Same, although it's getting hard to.
23:44 heureka; and end up with a basic interpreter and lunar lander program
23:45 heureka; thing is, tcc-toolchain cleared my mind too, with regards to C-language
23:45 heureka; which is, ok, the compiler problem is mostly solved, there is many available
23:45 XRevan86; Character development is pretty much ruined.
23:45 heureka; howver, i couldn't find an alternative to binutils-AS which could digest particular ASM inside libc variants reviewd
23:45 XRevan86; The Doctor: Yaz, I like you more than everyone else ever.
23:46 heureka; and, if i need to dig down to ASM, certainly won't i bother with arm or intel or anything
23:46 XRevan86; Ich: Yaz? Really?
23:46 XRevan86; Of all people?
23:46 heureka; hence, i pretty much lost interest in C programming too
23:46 heureka; simply because, the underlying realm isn't sufficiently stabilized
23:47 heureka; and in that realm a voila, z80, gigatron whatnot
23:47 heureka; if, only if, i do not need any fuc***ing internet with access to _online_ documentation
23:47 heureka; that's a tough one... what? no internet?
23:47 heureka; yep.
23:48 heureka; that's the plan. to software freedom and freedom in general!
23:48 heureka; the decision to freeze at gcc47 and terminate is made.
23:48 heureka; the decision about internet isn't yet.
23:49 XRevan86; ~Still a better lovestory than Twilight~ Actually, it might be even a worse lovestory than Twilight.
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23:49 heureka; if it's not possible to work with Z80 asm or gigatron without internet, then i don't want z80 either
23:50 heureka; in any case, "free software" has to proceed without my intellect involved
23:51 heureka; i had required something stable and reliable, long-term
23:51 XRevan86; britney: What's your DW experience?
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23:52 heureka; "deutsche welle"/dw.com? cannot be viewed with w3m browser anymore.
23:52 heureka; few days ago, "need javashit"
23:53 MinceR; :)
23:53 MinceR; doctor who
23:55 heureka; another problem, no clue how to apply for computer science jobs...
23:55 heureka; i mean, w3m browser is challenge with job portals or whatever
23:56 heureka; just, what if i said i seek job placement without any internet at all as a computer scientist?
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