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04:47 schestowitz-TR2; yes, I saw your message

04:47 schestowitz-TR2; migration went OK

04:47 schestowitz-TR2; this old machine seems to panic a little in rekonq

04:47 schestowitz-TR2; had to reboot it twice this past night

04:47 schestowitz-TR2; but it's not an important PC

04:49 schestowitz-TR2; ipfs went OK, in cron :-)

04:49 schestowitz-TR2; also, each reboot on any machine helps push me to refactor the layout

04:49 schestowitz-TR2; like, I removed the tuxmachines monitoring here

04:49 schestowitz-TR2; next, I'll unplug old backups

04:49 schestowitz-TR2; I also update my kde nepon machine, first reboot in 3 months

04:49 schestowitz-TR2; we'll see is RAM leaks have been mitigated since

04:58 *Now talking on #boycottnovell

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5 AM, August 17

05:04 schestowitz-TR2; The latest version of Thunderbird has some bad usability regressions, apparenty

05:04 schestowitz-TR2; introduced on purpose. I'm not sure how to override them. Baker is out to

05:04 schestowitz-TR2; kill Thunderbird and then Firefox.

05:06 Techrights-sec2; The latest version of Thunderbird has some bad usability regressions, apparenty

05:06 Techrights-sec2; introduced on purpose. I'm not sure how to override them. Baker is out to

05:06 Techrights-sec2; kill Thunderbird and then Firefox.

05:06 Techrights-sec2; what was changed that IPFS now works in cron?

05:06 Techrights-sec2; thunderbird menus with white text on off-white backgrounds :(

05:07 schestowitz-TR2; Thunderbird has a new strategy and business partners

05:07 schestowitz-TR2; "apps" and all

05:07 schestowitz-TR2; you fixed ipfs

05:07 schestowitz-TR2; I only made monior changes after this

05:07 schestowitz-TR2; and it works now

05:07 Techrights-sec2; oh

05:07 Techrights-sec2; ok

05:07 schestowitz-TR2; so I've logged off and will let it do its thing

05:10 Techrights-sec2; biab

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7 AM, August 17

07:07 schestowitz; gulag has begun ramping up its indexing of the new site: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&client=pub-2479740519054892&hl=en&biw=1056&bih=980&ei=MIX8YpKbBIjYgAactaSYBw&ved=0ahUKEwiS86K6ms35AhUILMAKHZwaCXM4ChDh1QMIDg&uact=5&oq=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANKBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQ3wdYngxg_AxoAXAAeACAAVKIAaEBkgEBMpgBAKABAaABAsABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

↺ https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&client=pub-2479740519054892&hl=en&biw=1056&bih=980&ei=MIX8YpKbBIjYgAactaSYBw&ved=0ahUKEwiS86K6ms35AhUILMAKHZwaCXM4ChDh1QMIDg&uact=5&oq=%22Programming+Leftovers%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANKBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQ3wdYngxg_AxoAXAAeACAAVKIAaEBkgEBMpgBAKABAaABAsABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz

07:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-"Programming Leftovers" - Google Search

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07:11 schestowitz-TR2; I was very happy with how things went on last night

07:11 schestowitz-TR2; I was anticipating at least SOME obstacles

07:11 schestowitz-TR2; I monitor the sort of traffic the old site gets

07:11 schestowitz-TR2; lots of valuable archives, 165,000+ nodes

07:11 schestowitz-TR2; and the new CMS copes fine with the increas ein load, it does not sweat at all

07:11 Techrights-sec2; ack

07:11 Techrights-sec2; good news then

07:11 schestowitz-TR2; the only limit is b/w-related

07:11 schestowitz-TR2; so it could in theory serve thousands of pages per minute without sweating

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07:13 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938

↺ https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938

07:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome a https://t.co/z0dI7eS1dd

↺ https://t.co/z0dI7eS1dd

07:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome a https://t.co/z0dI7eS1dd

↺ https://t.co/z0dI7eS1dd

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07:15 schestowitz; That's just the CA cartel frivilously warning about sites that issue their own certificates instead of outsourcing "trust" to monopolies and oligopolies (like 'secure' boot); it's a deliberate bug in the browser. Disregard or use http.

07:18 schestowitz-TR2; one good thing is that all "tweets" or TM contain also the gemini address

07:18 schestowitz-TR2; even if people don't click on these or cannot open them

07:18 schestowitz-TR2; that at least raises awareness among people

07:18 schestowitz-TR2; a necessary first step

07:18 schestowitz-TR2; gemini clients don't have this LE-like mentality

07:18 schestowitz-TR2; only about 8% of capsules use the CA cartel

07:18 schestowitz; Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome and Firefox browsers."|nitter.it https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938 Source: nitter | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938

↺ https://nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/BrideOfLinux/status/1558845371392167938

07:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Christine Hall (@BrideOfLinux): "Shouting out to @tuxmachines to check your server. SSL certificate-based error messages are flying on both Chrome and Firefox browsers."|nitter.it

07:19 Techrights-sec2; however the risks there is that the libraries they are built with start to

07:19 Techrights-sec2; lock out certificates which have not been vouched for by large corporations

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; notice the similarity to 'secure' boot

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; they start with recommendation

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; then intimidation

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; then outright locking out

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; thius iks a form of blackmail for lockdown

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; resistance will be needed by explaining to people what's happening

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; now GNOME web apparently says "security problem" and blocks it

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; unless one uses http

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; old browsers might not even have tls support

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; this is not about security

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; as I said bneore

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; more so after russian invasion

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; one day revoking certs can be weaponised

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; fore outright censorship

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; not at dns level

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; but at LE (et al) level

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; very scary thought, no?

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; like lenono shouting and scoffing at bsd and Linux

07:22 schestowitz-TR2; like only MalwareSoft (TM) is "secure"

07:22 Techrights-sec2; yes, is is very similar to restricted boot, being about control and such

07:22 Techrights-sec2; that's an important point, those that control the signing authorities can

07:22 Techrights-sec2; issue revocations at any time they feel like it

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; I remind people they revoked millions of certs before

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; without even properly expaining what had happened

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; LE = github (Microsoft, NSA, proprietary)

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; also secretive

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; it's the same address as LF, same bean counter

07:24 schestowitz-TR2; same board

07:28 Techrights-sec2; that's an important point, those that control the signing authorities can

07:28 Techrights-sec2; issue revocations at any time they feel like it

07:28 Techrights-sec2; and for any reason they feel like

07:28 Techrights-sec2; that's a good topic to revisit in a video or two

07:28 Techrights-sec2; bean counters are popular with certain interests since they steer the

07:28 Techrights-sec2; organizations they are in away from actually acting on their original charters

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; I want to make a side point: they say https= security=privacy=good

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; even when the companies you tansmit data (banks, FB, Gmail etc.)

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; not only retain all this data but pass it around

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; so it's an attack granularity thing

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; maybe your ISP is oblivious

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; but that's one level of several

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; even today's so-called 'browsers' keep track of what you visit (the chrom* ones for sure)

07:28 schestowitz-TR2; never mind AV software, toolbars, etc. in the name of "security"

07:29 schestowitz-TR2; boiling frog analogy: warm, hot, dead

07:29 schestowitz-TR2; recommend, intimidate, block (outright)

07:30 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/erbanku/status/1555220426254475265

↺ https://twitter.com/erbanku/status/1555220426254475265

07:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@erbanku: @tuxmachines Isnt it delayed? https://t.co/Oepj4Nd0ue

↺ https://t.co/Oepj4Nd0ue

07:30 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/enczew/status/1553466656541876224

↺ https://twitter.com/enczew/status/1553466656541876224

07:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@enczew: #Linux https://t.co/3jY0buba8H

↺ https://t.co/3jY0buba8H

07:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New Tux Machines https://t.co/dI7W6Jausv

↺ https://t.co/dI7W6Jausv

07:31 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/gy_sh1n/status/1550611491103117314

↺ https://twitter.com/gy_sh1n/status/1550611491103117314

07:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@gy_sh1n: @tuxmachines Does anybody still use Apache OpenOffice? #FOSS

07:32 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/SyS_Config/status/1548741823476162561

↺ https://twitter.com/SyS_Config/status/1548741823476162561

07:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SyS_Config: Check and ask away before you buy any pc or laptop peoplez . If you can't boot Linux..don't buy it. https://t.co/WIGnZneOZA

↺ https://t.co/WIGnZneOZA

07:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@tuxmachines: Microsoft stopped Lenovo from booting Linux https://t.co/RyPjx4tV0W

↺ https://t.co/RyPjx4tV0W

07:33 schestowitz-TR2; Check and ask if your Web browser blocks sites that don't conform to Pentagon-funded agenda; if you cannot access such sites, don't download it

07:33 schestowitz-TR2; (yes, it's too late by then)

07:33 schestowitz-TR2; agenda creep

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; someone compared TR to antivaxxers over TOFU

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; I noticed again, now criticising FBI is "extremistr"

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; criticising voting machines is antisemetic ("election denier")

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; all those stigmas won't help us

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; they give us temporary entertainment while we serve to protect injustices

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; apropos injustice, zoe kooyman just posted a decent article

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; and fsf did mandarin and espanol translations of a video

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; so they're not idle as I insinuated the other day

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; you'll know they dumped the shapr when they blog like today's EFF

07:38 schestowitz-TR2; *jumped the shark


8 AM, August 17

08:16 schestowitz-TR2; added tuxmahcines site monitoring to cavan, using netsurf

08:32 Techrights-sec2; ack

08:32 Techrights-sec2; """

08:32 Techrights-sec2; Its frustrating when you spend years if not decades helping such companies and then they go around your back to help their own enemies.

08:32 Techrights-sec2; """

08:32 Techrights-sec2; fixed ;)

08:32 schestowitz-TR2; Did you also fix this in the drop-quote part?

08:51 schestowitz-TR2; if today is hectic at your end, then I can focus on publishing posts/videos

08:52 schestowitz-TR2; it's good that august has been so slow, less guilt about not writing much

08:52 schestowitz-TR2; TM gemini capsule at 3k requests now


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09:38 Techrights-sec2; can you show a URl for the drop quote part? I can look at it later.

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; maybe I misinterpreted what you said

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; I thought you had edited my post

09:39 schestowitz-TR2; maybe you just sort of joked and made a point

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10:31 Techrights-sec2; no, it was a play on "there. fixed that for you."

10:31 Techrights-sec2; if I had seen it before it was published I would have suggested a correction

10:31 Techrights-sec2; but would not go in after it has already been published at all

10:31 Techrights-sec2; so yes it was trying to be a joke

10:31 schestowitz-TR2; I wqas just watching the recent robertson video on lennartsoft

10:31 schestowitz-TR2; I had linked to it at the time without watching it

10:31 schestowitz-TR2; truly disappointing

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noon, August 17

12:05 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> techrepublic is a dying site. It used to TRY to produce some news. Then it turned to Microsoft shilling. Now, as a last recourse, this sister site of ZDNet tries to reinvent itself as diploma mill peddler. Even made a deal with LINUNTODAY to shill these scams.

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13:29 schestowitz-TR2; Just wrote my first 'blog post' in new TM

13:29 Techrights-sec2; great!

13:29 Techrights-sec2; gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/welcome_new_tm.gmi

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2 PM, August 17

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14:26 schestowitz; is it just lagrance, or does gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/What_s_the_difference_between_apt_get_upgrade_vs_dist_upgrade.gmi show latin letter for apostrophe?

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/17/What_s_the_difference_between_apt_get_upgrade_vs_dist_upgrade.gmi

14:26 schestowitz-TR2; *lagrange

14:35 Techrights-sec2; checking

14:35 Techrights-sec2; in which part? The body renders ok in Amfora; the problematic characters

14:35 Techrights-sec2; are removed from the URL / slug because both Amfora and Lagrange seem to choke

14:35 Techrights-sec2; on them even though they seem like they ought to be perfectly valid

14:35 Techrights-sec2; lagrange is not in the Devuan repository

14:37 schestowitz-TR2; checking gain, the title is showing up ok in the index of articles

14:37 schestowitz-TR2; *again

14:37 schestowitz-TR2; then, in the page itself, 3 places where slanted apostrphe is ussed "smart quotes") shows up as "a" with accent on top of it

14:37 Techrights-sec2; not heree :/

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; good, so it's a lagrange problem

14:38 schestowitz-TR2; thanks

14:38 Techrights-sec2; np

14:41 Techrights-sec2; can you quote a phrase where the problem can be seen? I can check specifically

14:41 Techrights-sec2; then, but for now the who page renders ok in Amfora.

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14:42 schestowitz-TR2; ytalk does notsupport such accents, but the title and end of body have 3 such cases in total

14:42 schestowitz-TR2; I tried changing fonts just now and no difference was made

14:43 Techrights-sec2; it is important to have the surrounding words

14:43 Techrights-sec2; It'd be a matter of characterset not font / typeface

14:43 Techrights-sec2; "Be aware we're..."

14:43 schestowitz-TR2; i guess utf is so [u]niversal that some clients don't process it right

14:47 Techrights-sec2; neith lagrange nor amfora seem to allow it in the URLs

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5 PM, August 17

17:13 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/meet-brainjs-javascript-library-deploying-neural-networks

↺ https://www.fosslife.org/meet-brainjs-javascript-library-deploying-neural-networks

17:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Meet Brain.js A JavaScript Library for Deploying Neural Networks

17:13 schestowitz; "

17:13 schestowitz; Brain.js is a JavaScript library for deploying a neural network in the browser or on Node.js, writes Richard MacManus. It uses a computers graphics processing unit (GPU) for calculations, or pure JavaScript when GPU isnt available.

17:13 schestowitz; A key benefit of Brain.js, says MacManus, lies in its use of JavaScript the worlds most popular web programming language.

17:13 schestowitz; In this article, MacManus explains more about Brain.js, describing its origins and how it can be used.

17:14 schestowitz; "

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; Oh, I get "Unable to connect" error

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; when trying to modify or add a node

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; "Lookup error"

17:30 schestowitz-TR2; that would explain why Marius could not add a page

17:30 Techrights-sec2; checking

17:30 Techrights-sec2; I was just able to add a page

17:33 Techrights-sec2; At that stage the database is all set, and the connection problem would have

17:33 Techrights-sec2; been with the MQTT broker

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; oh it was modified ok after all

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; I wonder that this alert is about

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; and I am mosty, guessing if marius didn't add the page becausae he tried

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; never mind, false alart

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; except it did show an alaert

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; after "Pinging via <MQTT

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; "

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; maybe that's what it warned about

17:33 schestowitz-TR2; yes, most likely explanation

17:36 Techrights-sec2; there are a lot of attacks against the broker but not as many as there

17:36 Techrights-sec2; were against SSH and HTTP/S However, the log file puts the connection info

17:36 Techrights-sec2; on a separate line from everything else so it is not possible, even with

17:36 Techrights-sec2; AWK or Perl, to stitch the events together to identify culprits.

17:40 Techrights-sec2; It'd be easier to whitelist the source networks, and the add- and update- scripts are on a known host. So that is easy to add too.

17:41 schestowitz-TR2; how do you delete a page via the api? I saw you removed two test pages of yours before...

17:42 Techrights-sec2; tm-update-entry-sql.pl -d -u [url]

17:42 Techrights-sec2; or

17:42 Techrights-sec2; tm-update-entry-sql.pl -d -r [recordnumber]

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, I assume you were about to use that

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; so short story is, I got confused by that warning, that seems related to pinging

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; I didn't know of marius actually having issues

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; it's just that he typically adds a page minutes after publishing in his own sire

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; *(site

17:45 Techrights-sec2; np

17:45 Techrights-sec2; yes

17:45 Techrights-sec2; then the refresh-site-from-db.sh must be run manually afterwards

17:45 Techrights-sec2; the warning sounds like it was at the MQTT stage since SQLite3 is accessed only

17:45 Techrights-sec2; via the file system anyway.

17:58 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> COVID-19 Death Toll This August More Than 10 Times Higher Than in August 2020 (So Far) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/17/covid19-august/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/08/17/covid19-august/

17:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Death Toll This August More Than 10 Times Higher Than in August 2020 (So Far)

17:58 schestowitz-TR2; is it OK for me to remove the test page? foo bar?


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18:00 schestowitz-TR2; done. record deleted. my first time :-)

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18:06 schestowitz-TR2; needed some confidence, it names that as node 648

18:06 schestowitz-TR2; wow, we sure add nodes fast

18:06 schestowitz-TR2; about 1500 per month

18:06 schestowitz-TR2; i assume number is primary key and the algo leaps past "missing" numbers after sorting by id

18:07 Techrights-sec2; excellent

18:07 Techrights-sec2; I figure it will be a rarely used function so it is not parto f the wrapper

18:07 Techrights-sec2; scripts

18:07 Techrights-sec2; :)

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18:08 Techrights-sec2; yes it is a key but my ineptitude with SQL shows and much of what could be

18:08 Techrights-sec2; handled automatically via SQLite3 is managed inside of the perl scripts.

18:08 Techrights-sec2; There wasn't time to go back and fix that before it went live ;P

18:08 Techrights-sec2; I can experiment with some stuff offline later on and see what I can learn

18:08 Techrights-sec2; about keys, foreign keys, references, and cascading deletions.

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; all the needs are met already and there are no technical issues except external ones

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; site archive pages or search are very muchb peripheral to the whole thing in the sense that they are read-oinly operations

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; I'm VERY garetful for this CMS

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; maybe we should give it a name at some point

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; even phoronix gave its CMS a name

18:11 Techrights-sec2; np it's a relief for me to see the simplified UI

18:11 Techrights-sec2; a rude name?

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; I used to chat with michael about it

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; he did another microsoft post today

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; after one yesterday

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; I'm cynical about the whole thing

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; wecahatted about his old cms giving very cryptic urls like hashes

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; not even numbers

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; he said he would "fix" it and eventually did

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; today in the shower I had a thought about drupal

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; easy toi install

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; like birthing a kid

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; but then get ready to patch it every month for the next decades

18:14 schestowitz-TR2; MattL from SFF compalined about wordpress being like this (over a decade ago)

18:15 Techrights-sec2; SLOC Directory SLOC-by-Language (Sorted)

18:15 Techrights-sec2; 3692 top_dir perl=3548,sh=144

18:15 Techrights-sec2; Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):

18:15 Techrights-sec2; perl: 3548 (96.10%)

18:15 Techrights-sec2; sh: 144 (3.90%)

18:15 Techrights-sec2; Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 3,692

18:16 Techrights-sec2; Development Effort Estimate, Person-Years (Person-Months) = 0.79 (9.46)

18:16 Techrights-sec2; (Basic COCOMO model, Person-Months = 2.4 * (KSLOC**1.05))

18:16 Techrights-sec2; Schedule Estimate, Years (Months) = 0.49 (5.87)

18:16 Techrights-sec2; (Basic COCOMO model, Months = 2.5 * (person-months**0.38))

18:16 Techrights-sec2; Estimated Average Number of Developers (Effort/Schedule) = 1.61

18:16 Techrights-sec2; an advantage to most static site generators is that they don't have any

18:16 schestowitz-TR2; ack

18:16 Techrights-sec2; web-facing parts. However, shell access is a whole other can of worms.


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