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00:02 psydruid; https://www.afr.com/companies/transport/why-is-flying-out-of-australia-so-expensive-20230605-p5de55
00:02 TR Bot; Why flying out of Australia is so expensive; what Qantas and Qatar want
00:07 TR News; Microsoft Layoffs Still Ongoing, This Wave Did Not End | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/microsoft-layoffs-still-ongoing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/17/microsoft-layoffs-still-ongoing/
00:07 TR Bot; Microsoft Layoffs Still Ongoing, This Wave Did Not End | Techrights
00:10 AdmFubar; https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2023/07/17/eu_regulator_to_next_week/
00:10 TR Bot; EU to launch formal probe into Microsoft Teams and Office The Register
00:12 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=1954536
00:12 TR Bot; AT&T stock fell to 29-year low on Friday and sank another 6.7% today | Ars Technica
00:15 DaemonFC; https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/business/ford-f150-lightning-electric-vehicle-prices.html
00:15 TR Bot; Ford Slashes Price of Electric F-150 Lightning as Demand Weakens - The New York Times
00:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz Demand COOLS due to SLOWING GROWTH while Yellen eats Mushrooms with XI.
00:17 DaemonFC; "Manufacturers are having a Field of Dreams moment, said Jonathan Gregory, a senior manager of economic and industry insight at Cox. They have built E.V. inventory, but now they wait for buyers to come."
00:17 DaemonFC; $70,000 car.....
00:17 DaemonFC; So you can drive to a failed bank and tap on the glass.
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00:31 AdmFubar; is that how much you spent on the buick so far>
00:31 AdmFubar; ??
00:31 AdmFubar; what a deal!!!
00:31 schestowitz; :-)
00:31 schestowitz; baby on board
00:33 AdmFubar; i noticed.. it does go waaaa! a lot here
00:33 AdmFubar; when will they learn? https://www.darkreading.com/remote-workforce/microsoft-logging-tax-hinders-incident-response
00:33 TR Bot; Microsoft 'Logging Tax' Hinders Incident Response, Experts Warn
00:33 schestowitz; when the bill arrives
00:33 schestowitz; "A recent email compromise by Chinese APT group Storm-0558 highlights a lack of access to security logging by many Microsoft 365 license holders, prompting calls from researchers to abolish it."
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00:37 TR News; "At some point down the road retrocomputing will include using Python 2" gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/Addison/3216
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00:46 DaemonFC; No.
00:47 DaemonFC; Teslas cost about $70,000 and you get to drive them for maybe 3-4 years before they're rusted like having been stored in salt water and door handles break and you can't get service.
00:47 DaemonFC; They do not have long happy car lives in STATE OF ILL.
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00:48 DaemonFC; What you end up with is 20 years of undercarriage rust after 3 years and half the rated battery range for half the year.
00:48 DaemonFC; Both due to harsh winters.
00:48 DaemonFC; You might be okay in California or something as far as the rust goes.
00:48 DaemonFC; They don't treat the undercarriage like actual car companies do.
00:49 DaemonFC; Ford and GM have a lot of experience with how foul weather affects the underside of a car.
00:49 DaemonFC; And they treat it to stand up to the elements a lot better than Tesla does.
00:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz We got MOAR money from GULAG today.
00:50 DaemonFC; Not Matt GULAG, who can't even tip them enough to deliver a piping hot CHEESE PIZZA on time.
00:50 DaemonFC; But the company.
00:50 TR News; EPOs Patent Invalidity and Low Patent Quality Issues Get the Attention of Christian Wichard (Deputy Director General at Germanys Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/christian-wichard-and-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/17/christian-wichard-and-epo/
00:50 TR Bot; EPOs Patent Invalidity and Low Patent Quality Issues Get the Attention of Christian Wichard (Deputy Director General at Germanys Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection) | Techrights
00:51 DaemonFC; I always thought South Park was hilarious with the gay jokes, honestly.
00:51 DaemonFC; It just amazes me how thin-skinned people have gotten.
00:51 schestowitz; that is an issue
00:52 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> Teslas cost about $70,000 and you get to drive them for maybe 3-4 years before they're rusted like having been stored in salt water and door handles break and you can't get service.
00:52 schestowitz; cars are awful investment
00:52 DaemonFC; He was trying to think up ways to be the biggest "demented faggot" (his own words) he could so the school board would have to fire him, triggering a lawsuit.
00:52 schestowitz; they depreciate in value even faster now than decades ago
00:52 schestowitz; not just because of overly complex and proprietary components
00:52 DaemonFC; There really are some out there like that and it hurts everyone.
00:52 schestowitz; btw, the banks here now offer 5.4% interest
00:52 schestowitz; tax free if ISA
00:52 DaemonFC; But even South Park wouldn't stoop so low as to suggest a link between homosexuality and child abuse.
00:53 DaemonFC; I mean, they kind of made a joke about it, but it was just a joke.
00:53 schestowitz; so if you have 200,000 dollars you can live on the interest alone
00:53 schestowitz; rather than go into debt like gulagboy
00:53 DaemonFC; Garrison says, "No, I like men my own age, I mean....."
00:53 DaemonFC; Like he accidentally outed himself as gay in the rush to defend against the constant (truly abusive) accusation that he MUST be a pedophile.
00:53 schestowitz; back to tech pls
00:54 schestowitz; tesla is subsidised
00:54 schestowitz; at this point, with this ECONOMIC MARVEL (not!) of Biden, it'll flounder
00:54 DaemonFC; It's impossible for heterosexuals to truly grasp how annoying it is for the pedophilia accusations to constantly come up.
00:54 schestowitz; it's just taxpayers feeding a failing company
00:54 schestowitz; that didn't make any money until years back
00:54 DaemonFC; There's no, "Oh, I'm a heterosexual..." "Oh, so do you like, fondle little girls and stuff?"
00:55 DaemonFC; If it came up all the goddamned time they'd finally realize how awful they're being when they do this to us.
00:55 DaemonFC; "I'm a Jew." "Oh, so you're a MONEYCHANGER then? Off loansharking, I suppose. Family business, right?"
00:56 DaemonFC; That's the Jew version of what gay people have to tolerate.
00:56 DaemonFC; The closest it gets I think.
00:57 DaemonFC; The way it works is people perpetuate a stereotype that has no basis in reality, but it's the worst thing people would react to.
00:57 DaemonFC; Then they get it going, and it never ends.
00:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz I was talking to VIKINGFELTA about the Catholics and child abuse.
00:58 DaemonFC; And he says they let a lot of "gay perverts" in.
00:58 DaemonFC; Tesla gets most of its money from two places.
00:59 DaemonFC; 1. Direct subsidies from tax payers.
00:59 DaemonFC; 2. Subsidies passed along to people who buy a real car from some other company, wherein a fine is calculated based on the arbitrary definition of what constitutes a gas guzzler.
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:00 DaemonFC; Without either one of those, the company would just go ahead and fail because Tesla is in the business of fraud and lemon socialism, not car sales.
01:01 DaemonFC; Lemon Socialism isn't hard to explain. It's where society has to suffer to prop up all the lemons. Bad banks, companies that shouldn't exist because they don't make a product people want to buy, etc.
01:01 DaemonFC; In Lemon Socialism, there's rarely a case where the government avoids racking up a huge public debt, despite not generously funding social programs for citizens in need.
01:02 DaemonFC; So this explains the US economy very well.
01:02 schestowitz; lEmon Musk
01:02 DaemonFC; The Democrats and Republicans got together and gave us an economy based on bailouts to zombie companies and it ends in disaster.
01:03 DaemonFC; It's zombie companies and "defense contractors".
01:03 DaemonFC; And it turns out that while we produced a bunch of munitions, they weren't the kind of stuff that we needed on hand to respond to what Russia actually ended up doing.
01:03 DaemonFC; Even the tanks that NATO handed to Ukraine aren't performing impressively.
01:04 DaemonFC; They're getting blown to hell by cheap Russian mines. A third of them are gone already and the rest can't go anywhere.
01:05 DaemonFC; The heavy stuff we built in anticipation of "Russian tanks coming through Europe" actually aren't helping them a lot. If anything, the Russians will tow some of it off and figure out how it works, and hand some to China and laugh at us.
01:06 DaemonFC; The defensive stuff was performing a lot better because there wasn't anythign truly top secret that was a huge liability were it to be captured, and it inflicted a hell of a lot of damage for what it cost us.
01:06 TR News; [Meme] When Obeying Laws Means Making Less Money | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/obeying-laws-and-profits/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/17/obeying-laws-and-profits/
01:06 TR Bot; [Meme] When Obeying Laws Means Making Less Money | Techrights
01:07 DaemonFC; The Russians already have anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons that are similar in capability to what we gave Ukraine initially, and the Chinese do too.
01:08 DaemonFC; As far as fighter jets, we'd have to give them something new enough to be a threat to the Russians, and old enough that it's not anything they don't know about.
01:09 DaemonFC; The war in Yugoslavia where the F-117 Nighthawk was shot down was a major blunder, that incident was, at the time.
01:09 DaemonFC; You don't want to field your latest and greatest just to see it shot down by some Russian missile and given to the Chinese or something.
01:09 schestowitz; maybe the goal is not to end the conflict
01:10 schestowitz; more slaes as long as i lingers on, in stalemate
01:10 DaemonFC; There were other ways to degrade the enemy in that war.
01:10 DaemonFC; I think Bill Clinton probably fielded the F-117 and told them how to shoot it down.
01:10 DaemonFC; We know the Chinese laundered a lot of money into his Presidential campaigns.
01:11 DaemonFC; I can't really think of a way the F-117 made sense in order to carry out bombing runs.
01:16 TR News; Windows down to about 11% in South Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/south-africa/#monthly-200901-202307
01:16 TR Bot; Operating System Market Share South Africa | Statcounter Global Stats
01:19 DaemonFC; schestowitz I wonder if that's just a sign of poverty.
01:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
01:20 DaemonFC; You know, the ANC has ruined the economic progress in South Africa.
01:20 DaemonFC; They're back to digging pit toilets and dealing with rolling blackouts and an AIDS crisis.
01:20 DaemonFC; They've shown that they can't run the country properly, on any front.
01:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz "In Western countries people are hard-working, conservative, intelligent, and we have limited our population growth while creating wealth through hard work and intelligent social systems. The 'transition" was a combination of four things: sanitation, food preservation, science including medical, and family size control." -Felta
01:21 DaemonFC; Felta sez.
01:22 DaemonFC; " Western countries are wealthier, but people did not just walk there and pick it up off the ground. We CREATED it."
01:22 DaemonFC; "The impoverished areas are places where people have chosen not to make the transition and they have not created a good cultural system that creates wealth. It was and is a choice, though they have dug themselves in awfully deep now.
01:22 DaemonFC; Where Western countries are to blame it is because we have shared food and medical resources enough to offset plague and starvation that had traditionally reduced the population in non-western places, while they have by their own choice not changed any of the things that made things bad there. They did not control family size, mostly. They chose. They did.
01:22 DaemonFC; The difference is that "we" have created a better place to be, and "they" - as a group - have elected to be lazier and have lots of kids. It really is just that. It is the truth, and you can act like it isn't but that will never fix anything. The best of "them" get up and leave to a Western country to where the culture lets them create wealth, and some of the worst of them emigrate to where...
01:22 DaemonFC; ...they can steal and be a burden. The larger group stays as is."
01:23 DaemonFC; Not all of this is wrong, but I would say that some of it is.
01:23 DaemonFC; The whole reason anyone is dying of AIDS, quite simply, are drug patents.
01:23 DaemonFC; It's cheaper to make AIDS pills than it is to make a bag of discount potato chips.
01:23 DaemonFC; But the AIDS medicine costs $4,000 a month because of patents.
01:24 DaemonFC; The program the US government runs simply shifts the problem to the public coffers.
01:24 DaemonFC; The pharmaceutical industry would have to lower prices if the government didn't obligate itself to pay and then set up the conditions under which only one company can make drugs that public tax dollars were poured into researching.
01:25 DaemonFC; Right now, there are combination AIDS drugs that doctors simply don't prescribe anymore, because they're crooks and they're "in on it".
01:25 DaemonFC; For example, Atripla would still work in most patients and costs $87 a month with GoodRX.
01:26 DaemonFC; There's basically nothing to call a system that allows drug companies to shower doctors with bribes and then expects them to pitch their latest product than corrupt to the point it's a crime against humanity.
01:27 DaemonFC; If the government is going to put public money towards dealing with the AIDS crisis it should put some into investigating doctors and sending them to prison for looting the public purse.
01:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz So I just staged our meal at McDonalds so I could sit there and keep using app coupons.
01:31 DaemonFC; Eat some food, wait out the 15 minutes, another coupon.
01:31 DaemonFC; Pay with Google Pay.
01:32 TR News; For the First Time, Linux Crosses 40% Market Share in France (Well, GNU/Linux and Android) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/gnu-linux-and-android-in-france/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/17/gnu-linux-and-android-in-france/
01:32 TR Bot; For the First Time, Linux Crosses 40% Market Share in France (Well, GNU/Linux and Android) | Techrights
01:32 DaemonFC; I did that like three times. I sent Mandy to work tomorrow with a crispy chicken and an apple pie.
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01:33 DaemonFC; I'd love to give him some money to just get something to eat on his lunch break but what he does is goes without eating, says he's hungry. "What did you do with the money?" *shrugs* More garbage for the pile.
01:33 DaemonFC; That's not how this is going to work.
01:34 DaemonFC; This reminds me of when I was a little kid. Parents wouldn't give me an allowance. What would I do? Skip lunch at school, pocket the $1.50 until I had enough for a video game.
01:34 DaemonFC; "Ryan, why are we getting letters from the Principal saying we're not feeding you?" Meanwhile, I was a rather hefty child. Obviously I was eating SOMETHING.
01:35 DaemonFC; I mean, you have kids, they figure out ways to be wily and meanwhile you're getting letters from Child Protective Services as if you were chaining them to the toilet and crushing cigarettes on them.
01:35 DaemonFC; You can't win unless you don't play the game.
01:35 schestowitz; back to tech now..
01:35 schestowitz; not diary
01:41 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D655.jpg
01:41 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D981.jpg
01:41 TR News; Child, you want to be a surrealist? gopher://triapul.cz/0/phlog/2023-07-17-child-you-want-to-be-a-surrealist.txt
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01:46 TR News; Gemini Links 17/07/2023: Art and Home Lab | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/home-lab/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/17/home-lab/
01:46 TR Bot; Gemini Links 17/07/2023: Art and Home Lab | Techrights
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01:49 schestowitz; on Microsoft layoffs this weekend:
01:49 schestowitz; (quite racist)
01:49 schestowitz; "Indians are the biggest bootlickers you'll meet. They'll do anything to make you think they are western. They'll whiten their skin and put up Christmas trees. Many are already supporting Trump. What else do you need to do to be a modern Christian?
01:49 schestowitz; The Chinese no longer need to come to here because their technological pace exceeds the US. "
01:49 schestowitz; https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nDiyuA7#replies
01:49 TR Bot; 'Tough to write this with tears in eyes...' - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
01:50 TR News; Biggest instance of Invidious down again. What happened now? https://yewtu.be/
01:51 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://yewtu.be/ )
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01:55 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrcC-vUYXMw&pp=ygUFK2xicnk%3D
01:55 TR Bot; https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=yrcC-vUYXMw
01:55 TR Bot; invidious.projectsegfau.lt | OH NO... SEC JUST WON THE LBRY CASE... (Bullish for XRP?) - Invidious
01:57 schestowitz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOQkX0ER2Y&pp=ygUFK2xicnk%3D
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01:57 TR Bot; https://inv.zzls.xyz/watch?v=8KOQkX0ER2Y
01:57 TR Bot; inv.zzls.xyz | GARY GENSLER SPEAKS OUT ON RIPPLE XRP WIN!? | $XRP TO $1!!! - Invidious
01:59 DaemonFC; [Monday 7:49:14pm]schestowitz"Indians are the biggest bootlickers you'll meet. They'll do anything to make you think they are western. They'll whiten their skin and put up Christmas trees. Many are already supporting Trump. What else do you need to do to be a modern Christian?
01:59 DaemonFC; [Monday 7:49:14pm]schestowitzThe Chinese no longer need to come to here because their technological pace exceeds the US. "
01:59 DaemonFC; Another Cantrell.
01:59 DaemonFC; Maybe he'll return and shoot or knife people.
01:59 DaemonFC; Like Dr. GULAG fantasizes about.
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
01:59 TR News; LBRY Closes Doors After $111K Securities Fraud Fine https://www.banklesstimes.com/news/2023/07/17/lbry-closes-doors-after-dollar111k-securities-fraud-fine/
01:59 DaemonFC; On his public blog.
01:59 TR Bot; LBRY Closes Doors After $111K Securities Fraud Fine
02:01 CrystalMath; oh wait LBRY?
02:01 CrystalMath; does that mean no more Odysee?
02:01 XRevan86; CrystalMath: Not sure.
02:02 CrystalMath; we need a youtube alternative
02:02 CrystalMath; youtube's gonna go mad cow any day now
02:02 schestowitz; self-host
02:02 schestowitz; Google Video Search indexes Techrights
02:02 schestowitz; and lists its videos
02:02 schestowitz; that are all self-hosted
02:03 XRevan86; https://twitter.com/OdyseeTeam/status/1679598353980567555 "Rebirth coming soon" <- They just wrote this.
02:03 TR Bot; response
02:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz The landlord must be leaning on those guys to wrap it up over there.
02:03 DaemonFC; They've been working 12 hours a day on that unit.
02:03 DaemonFC; Probably needed new everything and Mark just never bothered.
02:04 DaemonFC; Our apartment has been invaded by earwigs around the time they started working on that.
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02:04 schestowitz; https://www.google.com/search?q=techrights+irc&biw=1600&bih=770&tbm=vid
02:04 TR Bot; irc - Google Search
02:04 schestowitz; maybe Mark was too broke
02:05 schestowitz; to invest in anythng
02:05 schestowitz; so he passed the baron
02:05 schestowitz; baton
02:05 schestowitz; and maybe lost a lot of money somewhere else
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02:06 schestowitz; Sp Gulag indexes videos that say "F****" and "Sh***'
02:06 schestowitz; They are now controlled by Gulag's YouTube
02:06 schestowitz; CrystalMath: invidious is under attack too
02:07 CrystalMath; schestowitz: not really, that was bullcrap
02:07 schestowitz; what was
02:07 schestowitz; ?
02:07 CrystalMath; the letter
02:08 CrystalMath; we'll see if there's any serious threats to invidious
02:08 CrystalMath; but i suspect they will be technical
02:09 DaemonFC; https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/business/energy-environment/electric-vehicles-backup-power.html
↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/16/business/energy-environment/electric-vehicles-backup-power.html
02:09 TR Bot; A New Job for Electric Vehicles: Powering Homes During Blackouts - The New York Times
02:09 DaemonFC; EVs are causing blackouts, but you can totally void your warranty and run the fridge on them.
02:09 DaemonFC; During the blackout that they caused.
02:11 schestowitz; EVs are a hog on the grid
02:11 schestowitz; and since they cannot use gasoline
02:11 schestowitz; and you cannot hoard much electricity
02:11 schestowitz; imagine what will happen during energy crises
02:11 schestowitz; anyway, there's growing concsensus around EVs not solving the climate issues
02:11 schestowitz; they just help sell more cars
02:15 DaemonFC; I've heard mixed things about OpenSUSE Tumbleweed.
02:15 DaemonFC; I suppose that huge breaking changes are unavoidable. It would probably be worse than running Fedora.
02:15 DaemonFC; No warning, here's a new glibc, watch out.
02:16 DaemonFC; Huge ABI changes that break a lot of things for no reason and shit GNU branding everywhere.
02:16 DaemonFC; Those are becoming more common, and this quite frankly does help scare people into buying RHEL.
02:17 DaemonFC; The Linux crowd has largely gone along with a lot of non-standard and broken GNU behaviors, oddities, and questionable features.
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02:18 DaemonFC; Vendor lock-in. You can't escape Linux when programs start supporting a bunch of other crap that goes along with Linux.
02:18 DaemonFC; It's building a hegemony by not playing well with others.
02:19 DaemonFC; Where was this FSF statement on the latest Red Hat ambush?
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02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:22 AdmFubar; this is grand! https://arstechnica.com/?p=1954394
02:22 TR Bot; Owners of troubled VanMoof e-bikes get their software keys from rival company | Ars Technica
02:29 DaemonFC; schestowitz From a post I'm writing:
02:29 DaemonFC; "One thing that disturbs me that's coming up in Fedora was a discussion on IRC last night about a proposed "feature" that gathers more information about users, that will be on by default and set to land in Fedora 40.
02:29 DaemonFC; These "reports" along with crash reporting, and GNOME Telemetry, should be turned off and/or uninstalled by the user. Together, they actually are reporting more and more information about the user, which is ironically one of the reasons why we normally tell people to get rid of Windows.
02:29 DaemonFC; Even in 2010, the US NSA was cracking jokes about Windows sending error reports, and it did them without even encrypting them, so the NSA would just intercept the report and gather what vulnerabilities were likely to exist in the computer they were targeting.
02:29 DaemonFC; A crash dump could contain basically anything that was in your computer's memory when an error happened and they are truly impossible to actually anonymize.
02:29 DaemonFC; With the rest of the "telemetry", you just basically have to read their privacy policy and then trust they'll do what they say, and even what they admit they do is usually too bad to agree to. For example, Windows not only sends Telemetry to Microsoft, but 450+ "partners" and Microsoft, were it even trustworthy (LOL), can't control "partners".
02:29 DaemonFC; It's just very disheartening to see so much software, like Firefox, and Fedora, "spying" on the users, and in Firefox making this connection directly to adware servers and US government contractors (like CloudFlare), just to make a quick buck, or because they don't see the user as anything other than an ant to be stepped on."
02:33 schestowitz; <XRevan86> https://twitter.com/OdyseeTeam/status/1679598353980567555 "Rebirth coming soon" <- They just wrote this.
02:33 TR Bot; response
02:33 schestowitz; made screenshot of it
02:33 schestowitz; DaemonFC: draft maybe?
02:33 DaemonFC; Yeah
02:34 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/fate-of-lbry-protocol/
02:34 TR Bot; Tough Times for Invidious and Odysee (LBRY Protocol) | Techrights
02:35 mjg59_; Can you point at the portion of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry that says anything about crash reports
02:35 TR Bot; Changes/Telemetry - Fedora Project Wiki
02:36 mjg59_; (Answer: no, because the proposed change does nothing to enable automatic crash reporting)
02:36 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I was pointing out that there's already too much data collection that's on by default and now they want even more.
02:37 DaemonFC; It's turning into a "good luck digging it all out" like Windows or Firefox
02:37 mjg59_; Yes, and it's designed to ensure that the data collected isn't ascribable to a user
02:37 DaemonFC; How do you sanitize a crash dump?
02:37 mjg59_; You don't, which is why they're not automatically reported
02:37 DaemonFC; I sanitized them by setting the storage limit to zero and uninstalling ABRT.
02:38 mjg59_; abrt shows you what's going to be reported and you decide whether or not to do so
02:38 DaemonFC; Nothing like systemd being so badly designed that it just shits coredumps into your system logs.
02:38 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170723.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170723.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-170723.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-170723.txt
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02:38 DaemonFC; And chews disk space.
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02:40 DaemonFC; mjg59_: There is a toggle called Automatic Problem Reporting.
02:40 DaemonFC; And I do believe it was flipped ON before I turned it off.
02:40 DaemonFC; And that's in GNOME.
02:40 TR News; Tough Times for Invidious and Odysee (LBRY Protocol) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/fate-of-lbry-protocol/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/17/fate-of-lbry-protocol/
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02:41 DaemonFC; It also tells me my laptop isn't secure because I haven't updated a malicious rootkit recently.
02:41 DaemonFC; Intel Management Engine ( which is only updated with a firmware update they package for Windows)
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02:42 DaemonFC; Having the latest malware is the only way to be secure!
02:42 DaemonFC; You need the malware OS to install the latest hardware malware.
02:42 DaemonFC; You are not secure!
02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-07-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-07-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:47 DaemonFC; I do have a dbx of course, but whatever version it's at is two years old.
02:47 DaemonFC; I stopped them from updating it deliberately even though "Secure Boot" is off.
02:48 DaemonFC; One way they bit me with Secure Boot was a dbx update that stopped my old laptop from booting Fedora until I entered the firmware and reset it.
02:48 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi
02:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
02:48 TR News; (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi
02:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Today in Techrights
02:49 schestowitz; DaemonFC: u just hatin' on the uefi coz u don't like security!!
02:53 MinceR; lol
02:53 schestowitz; "i swear on my mortgage!"
02:54 schestowitz; > Dr. Schestowitz,
02:54 schestowitz; >
02:54 schestowitz; > First, I wanted to thank you for your shout-out the other week. I
02:54 schestowitz; > thought it was important to reach out and let you know that your work is
02:54 schestowitz; > appreciated, and I meant every word of it. Thanks again!
02:54 schestowitz; Thanks for the timely feedback.
02:54 schestowitz; > I wanted to offer a comment on your systemd video yesterday. I remember
02:54 schestowitz; > there was an effort in the earliest days of systemd called uselessd
02:54 schestowitz; > which attempted to reign in some of the expansion of systemd and
02:54 schestowitz; > constrain it to its ostensible function at the time, an init
02:54 schestowitz; > replacement.
02:54 schestowitz; Yes, I remember uselessd.https://www.google.com/search?q=uselessd&sa=Google+%E2%80%BA&sitesearch=techrights.org
02:54 schestowitz; > Unfortunately the project stopped development. The wayback machine has
02:54 schestowitz; > an archive of the site: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
02:54 schestowitz; >
02:54 schestowitz; > Some other projects aim to replicate specific features of system. You
02:54 schestowitz; > mentioned eudev on the video. There's also elogind, which is
02:54 schestowitz; > controversial to some.
02:55 TR Bot; site:techrights.org - Google Search
02:55 TR Bot; not resolve host: uselessd.darknedgy.net; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ )
02:55 schestowitz; MinceR: do you know uselessd?
02:55 MinceR; sounds familiar
02:56 XRevan86; MinceR: Remember the kitchen sink?
02:56 MinceR; :>
02:56 XRevan86; uselessd had that as the logo.
02:58 MinceR; ah, it was meant to be a stripped down cancerd
02:58 MinceR; not surprising that it died, then
02:58 MinceR; elogind tried that already and it didn't work out well
02:58 schestowitz; it got cancered
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 167541 total Total number of pages in capsule: 47351 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 4 months 9 days ago
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:09 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Oh! The problem reports aren't crash dumps in the way that the term's usually used - they're purely a backtrace with no variable information, and they only trigger if the binaries are all packaged so they don't leak any local symbols
03:10 mjg59_; There's no realistic path to leaking personal information
03:12 TR News; Windows TCO https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29946
03:13 TR Bot; Analysis Method for Custom Encoding - SANS Internet Storm Center
03:15 mjg59_; Linux TCO https://twitter.com/IanColdwater/status/1570833981373059072
03:15 TR Bot; response
03:15 TR News; Open Democracy editor and CEO Peter Geoghegan steps down https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/media-jobs-uk-news/open-democracy-editor-ceo-peter-geoghegan-satbir-singh/
03:15 TR Bot; Open Democracy editor and CEO Peter Geoghegan steps down
03:15 TR News; "Unionised staff said they urged shareholders to "intervene as a matter of urgency"." https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/national-world-no-confidence-david-montgomery-nuj/
03:15 TR Bot; National World staff pass no confidence vote in David Montgomery
03:16 mjg59_; Obfuscation isn't some magical OS-specific thing, malware authors obfuscate on every platform
03:18 TR News; Mortgage takers eat crow now https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/average-five-year-mortgage-rate-rises-above-6-what-can-borrowers-do-now-awzNj4D1GNlb
03:18 TR Bot; Average five-year mortgage rate rises above 6% - what can borrowers do now? - Which? News
03:19 DaemonFC; mjg59_There's no realistic path to leaking personal information
03:19 TR News; "This trend may be attributed to the online platforms that provide an environment where individuals can easily find affirmation for their beliefs without necessarily improving their level of political literacy." https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/176-information/study/23837-excessive-trust-in-political-knowledge-increases-on-social-media.html
03:19 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/176-information/study/23837-excessive-trust-in-political-knowledge-increases-on-social-media.html )
03:19 DaemonFC; What about being useful if the NSA wants to figure out which OS you use and where the bugs are, like they were doing with Windows?
03:19 DaemonFC; And making jokes about.
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 DaemonFC; Wouldn't you agree that transmitting NO information is always better than transmitting some or a lot?
03:20 mjg59_; Transmitting no information means not using the internet
03:20 DaemonFC; Even if it doesn't appear to be particularly useful at the time.
03:20 mjg59_; So there's clearly a tradeoff
03:20 mjg59_; Your browser leaks plenty of information about your OS
03:21 DaemonFC; Does it now?
03:21 DaemonFC; What if you like, set it to lie its fucking ass off?
03:21 mjg59_; The behaviour of your IP stack leaks plenty of information about your OS
03:21 mjg59_; Haha awh that's cute
03:21 DaemonFC; Send back a bunch of garbage.
03:21 mjg59_; You think measuring the behaviour of the sandbox doesn't leak as much, if not more, than the user agent header
03:22 DaemonFC; mjg59_: There was actually a problem with BitTorrent clients simply sending their user agents and stuff.
03:22 DaemonFC; That's why Deluge attempts a "Privacy Mode" for VPN users.
03:22 TR News; Hong Kong Journalists Association: Press freedom index hits new low https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/hong-kong-journalists-association-press-freedom-index-hits-new-low/
03:22 TR Bot; Hong Kong Journalist's Association: 'Press freedom index hits new low' - JURIST - News
03:22 DaemonFC; You can turn it on if you like. It's supposedly going to limit what information law firms can collect about you out of the swarm.
03:23 DaemonFC; What do you think about things like this?
03:23 TR News; German Whistleblower Protection Act: Police officers should report violations themselves https://digit.site36.net/2023/07/12/german-whistleblower-protection-act-police-officers-should-report-violations/ | Source: Site36
03:23 TR Bot; German Whistleblower Protection Act: Police officers should report violations themselves - Matthias Monroy
03:23 DaemonFC; They were obviously interested in some Reddit posts. There's no telling what they're actually logging about people that could help them in finding a victim.
03:23 DaemonFC; Proving it was them.
03:24 mjg59_; I think if you believe you're getting any sort of protection from the NSA by doing that, you're deluded
03:24 DaemonFC; That's not an NSA problem.
03:24 DaemonFC; It's a lawyer problem.
03:24 mjg59_; 03:19 < DaemonFC> What about being useful if the NSA wants to figure out which OS you use and where the bugs are, like they were doing with Windows?
03:24 mjg59_; Pick an objection and stick to it
03:25 schestowitz; emitting info about onself is always harmful
03:25 schestowitz; not just when lawyers are present
03:25 DaemonFC; I'm generally saying if it doesn't benefit the user, at all, why send it?
03:25 DaemonFC; Crash reports don't help me but they could harm me.
03:25 mjg59_; It does benefit the user
03:25 schestowitz; you emit information by physical presence
03:25 mjg59_; It results in bugs being identified and fixed
03:25 schestowitz; unmasked etc. worse if you carry modern "phone"
03:25 schestowitz; you have nothing to gain by emitting info
03:25 DaemonFC; Telling Red Hat all about my computer configuration instead of being a faceless Fedora user.
03:25 mjg59_; It's not like developers *want* extra bug reports
03:26 DaemonFC; Off in the crowd.
03:26 DaemonFC; Telling Firefox's ad partner what sites I visit.
03:26 DaemonFC; So they can turn around and sell it to Facebook.
03:26 schestowitz; the ISP knows already
03:26 mjg59_; See, that's a thing that doesn't happen
03:26 schestowitz; and sells this data
03:26 DaemonFC; There's a lot of really bad shit that things like this leads to.
03:27 AdmFubar; schestowitz: you emit information by physical presence <<< uhm well i emit something... more wouldnt consider it information
03:27 mjg59_; "We will not collect data that can identify a user, including their IP address" is a pretty firm statement
03:27 schestowitz; people who don't understand security also exercise poor opsec
03:27 DaemonFC; mjg59_: During the COVID bullshit, the government just bought location tracking info from ad companies that got it out of your Android phone.
03:27 schestowitz; AdmFubar: but you probably know what I meant
03:27 schestowitz; you cannot see me now
03:28 DaemonFC; I carried mine with me while I was eating in a restaurant that wasn't supposed to be open.
03:28 mjg59_; Roy you keep failing to redact people's personal details when you dump messages into IRC, and your home address is on the public internet
03:28 schestowitz; but if we worked in a shared office...
03:28 DaemonFC; Like that mini-series Chernobyl.
03:28 DaemonFC; "Fuck Gorbachev, I don't care if he's listening. I want him to hear this!"
03:28 mjg59_; So you're talking about a situation that isn't what's being proposed
03:29 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I would have gone to court and refused to pay the fine.
03:29 AdmFubar; :P
03:29 schestowitz; DaemonFC: during covid-19 they terrorised people to give the data directly
03:29 DaemonFC; Fuck the Health Department.
03:29 schestowitz; with tracking ("safety") 'apps'
03:29 DaemonFC; Nobody died and made them the legislature.
03:29 schestowitz; they misused these
03:29 schestowitz; and nobody was ever held accountable
03:29 schestowitz; Zemlin Foundation shilled this too
03:30 DaemonFC; When the Illinois legislature passes an actual law that says I can't eat at a restaurant and gives the Health Department the authority to decide when that applies, I'll go along with it.
03:30 mjg59_; The LF's involvement in the contact tracking was restricted to the privacy preserving Android/iOS thing
03:30 DaemonFC; But they didn't do that.
03:31 DaemonFC; The Health Department started writing fines and when nobody paid the ticket, they stopped.
03:31 DaemonFC; Everything opened back up.
03:31 mjg59_; Which was actually privacy preserving! There was no way to identify individuals with it
03:31 mjg59_; Or track them
03:31 mjg59_; The only place that had the id/user linkage was the user's own phone
03:33 DaemonFC; The Health Department can't order me to do anything without taking it to court. Even if I had Tuberculosis and wouldn't take the medicine and was riding around on the city bus.
03:33 DaemonFC; They'd have to go to court.
03:33 schestowitz; they condition people to it
03:33 schestowitz; like TSA in airport
03:33 DaemonFC; So how do they just go in there and write you a ticket for eating at a restaurant and not cite the enabling law?
03:33 schestowitz; now taking more scans
03:33 schestowitz; the "contact-tracing" 'apps' were worse than a scam
03:34 starstreak; techrights = infowars
03:34 schestowitz; and a dangerous one
03:34 schestowitz; enabled by Zemlin Foundation too
03:34 schestowitz; with Irish authorities
03:34 schestowitz; https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/police-using-spying-powers-to-probe-covid-rule-breakers-in-northern-ireland/40142004.html
03:34 TR Bot; 'using spying powers to probe Covid rule breakers' in Northern Ireland | BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
03:34 schestowitz; starstreak: go nibble ona shroom
03:34 starstreak; they're putting codes in the software that makes the freakin apps gay
03:34 DaemonFC; They were using this to see who would go along with it and who wouldn't and how long until compliance fell apart.
03:34 schestowitz; or apply for Microsoft jobs, AGAIN
03:34 DaemonFC; It was a test.
03:35 starstreak; i haven't had a shroom since 2006
03:35 DaemonFC; They did a lot of damage.
03:35 DaemonFC; Now nobody will pay attention to the government asking you to get a vaccine again.
03:35 schestowitz; DaemonFC: i guess i scored badly
03:35 schestowitz; didn't comply with much
03:35 DaemonFC; Because this one didn't work and hurt a lot of people.
03:35 starstreak; and LSD in 2007
03:35 DaemonFC; So now they're cooking up alleged RSV vaccines.
03:36 schestowitz; new patents
03:36 schestowitz; all in one
03:36 schestowitz; want immunity to x?
03:36 schestowitz; get y and z
03:36 DaemonFC; I walked into CVS yesterday to get my medications and they offered me a flu shot, in July.
03:36 schestowitz; even if that y and z part of experimental
03:36 DaemonFC; So it can be completely worn off by December.
03:36 schestowitz; COVID-19 response was a boon to antivax movement
03:36 schestowitz; because they reaffirmeed stigmas
03:36 schestowitz; by leaping past clinical trials
03:36 schestowitz; then gaslighting people who suffered adverse effects
03:37 mjg59_; https://archive.li/OszoZ - the Northern Ireland situation didn't involve covid tracking apps
03:37 TR Bot; communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://archive.li/OszoZ )
03:37 mjg59_; Roy's just making shit up
03:37 DaemonFC; No, they put COVID tracking APIs in your phone without asking.
03:38 mjg59_; Which leaked no personal information and weren't enabled unless you enabled them
03:38 DaemonFC; Prove it one way or the other.
03:38 DaemonFC; Right?
03:38 DaemonFC; The user sees the toggle switch off.
03:38 DaemonFC; And since the software is proprietary and blasts encrypted data back to all kinds of places, they can verify this easily.
03:39 starstreak; infowars: vaccines are bad! techrights: vaccines are bad!
03:39 mjg59_; https://www.google.com/covid19/exposurenotifications/ is the brief overview
03:39 TR Bot; Notifications: Helping fight COVID-19 - Google
03:39 mjg59_; But, uh, you have the phone. It is trivial to determine what it's sending back, even if it's encrypted
03:39 TR News; Bubbles imploding https://michaelwest.com.au/home-builder-bentley-homes-slides-into-liquidation/ | Source: Michael West Media
03:39 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://michaelwest.com.au/home-builder-bentley-homes-slides-into-liquidation/ )
03:39 mjg59_; The code that runs on it is under your control
03:39 DaemonFC; Exposure notifications didn't help anything.
03:40 DaemonFC; The vaccines didn't help anything.
03:40 DaemonFC; Everyone still got COVID.
03:40 DaemonFC; That was the shittiest vaccine ever.
03:40 mjg59_; Vaccines significantly reduced the number of infections, and reduced the severity of many that did occur
03:40 mjg59_; They generated an immune response that was as robust as an actual infection
03:40 DaemonFC; Which is probably why I had four shots and still got it.
03:40 DaemonFC; Still spent a month in agony.
03:40 TR News; Next up "advanced" HEY HI hype https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/metaverse-zuckerberg-pr-hype/ | Source: The Nation
03:40 TR Bot; Lessons From the Catastrophic Failure of the Metaverse | The Nation
03:41 starstreak; mjg59_, remember, roy is weirdly conservative
03:41 DaemonFC; My mom didn't even get a COVID shot and got COVID and was barely even sick.
03:41 DaemonFC; I had four shots AND the antiviral pills and look what happened to me.
03:42 starstreak; he probably has a stockpile of ivermectin
03:42 mjg59_; It's why we don't become immune to the common cold
03:42 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Do you suppose the vaccine did nothing, made it worse, or that I would have died without it?
03:42 DaemonFC; It's impossible to know that, so Pfizer will just bury the data.
03:42 mjg59_; Both because there's a range of viruses that cause the syndrome, but also because the immune system doesn't generate a long-term response to it
03:42 DaemonFC; Keep charging $130 a shot to idiots who take more.
03:43 schestowitz; DaemonFC: there were studies into it
03:43 schestowitz; inc. in scandinavia
03:43 mjg59_; We can't magically change the behaviour of the immune system
03:43 DaemonFC; Smart people eventually figure out when something didn't do a damn thing or blew up on them and stop doing the thing.
03:43 schestowitz; the vaccines did not improvemortality rates, or bartely did
03:43 schestowitz; they were not placebos
03:43 elusive_woman; DaemonFC: vaccines dont work if you're a fag with aids
03:43 schestowitz; they did have an adverse effect on people
03:43 schestowitz; some people more so
03:43 DaemonFC; I don't have HIV.
03:43 schestowitz; but the common consensus, in hindsight, is that the vaccines were afialure
03:43 mjg59_; https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7224a6.htm
03:43 elusive_woman; sure
03:43 schestowitz; and now the media does not want to talk about the studies
03:44 TR Bot; Notes from the Field: Comparison of COVID-19 Mortality Rates Among Adults Aged 65 Years Who Were Unvaccinated and Those Who Received a Bivalent Booster Dose Within the Preceding 6 Months 20 U.S. Jurisdictions, September 18, 2022April 1, 2023 | MMWR
03:44 DaemonFC; For a while there I was probably the most tested person I know of because the Cook County Health Department was paying me to take the tests.
03:44 mjg59_; Mortality rates in unvaccinated Americans were around 10x higher than in vaccinated Americans
03:44 DaemonFC; One at-home HIV test could be a dud.
03:44 DaemonFC; Ten of them in a row probably aren't.
03:44 DaemonFC; So I don't have it.
03:44 mjg59_; (For >65 year olds, at least)
03:45 mjg59_; Protection extended into the 3-6 month range
03:45 DaemonFC; Well, what I saw in my labs after COVID was an explosion of certain white blood cell types.
03:46 DaemonFC; Which is what you'd expect from a working immune system.
03:46 mjg59_; The idea that the vaccines did nothing is just obviously, clearly, false
03:46 TR News; PwC corruption. Where Sheela Zemlin came from before raising money from Microsoft and defrauding loads of people. https://michaelwest.com.au/pwc-sells-government-arm-amid-questions-over-conflict/ | Source: Michael West Media
03:46 TR Bot; PwC sells government arm amid questions over conflict - Michael West
03:46 DaemonFC; The United States made COVID worse by letting a bunch of poor blacks have untreated AIDS, actually.
03:46 DaemonFC; Largely in the south.
03:47 DaemonFC; The US still has about 7,800 AIDS deaths in a typical year.
03:47 DaemonFC; The epicenter is the deep south and the typical victim is a male black in his teens through 30s.
03:47 DaemonFC; This is a policy thing.
03:48 DaemonFC; Like throwing them in prison.
03:48 DaemonFC; Killing them in the back of police cars.
03:48 DaemonFC; Failing to educate them.
03:48 DaemonFC; Not allowing anything good to happen where they live.
03:48 DaemonFC; That's the United States.
03:48 TR News; "This is demonstrated succinctly by [Davide dakk Gessa] with 200 lines of BASIC code on a Commodore 64, implementing a range of quantum gates." https://hackaday.com/2023/07/04/quantum-computing-on-a-commodore-64-in-200-lines-of-basic/ | Source: Hackaday
03:48 TR Bot; Computing On A Commodore 64 In 200 Lines Of BASIC | Hackaday
03:49 DaemonFC; So like, John Salinas was pretty dismissive when he said "Black people are just kind of sketchy and gross." when I asked him why he figured the Syphilis Crisis was unfolding.
03:49 DaemonFC; This is sort of everyone hates everyone.
03:49 DaemonFC; You know, because he's Hispanic and very racist against blacks.
03:49 mjg59_; And, shockingly, once evidence is presented that shows Roy's an idiot, he starts posting links rather than engaging
03:50 DaemonFC; There's a long list of government policies that lead to the train wreck that is the "black community".
03:50 DaemonFC; And then you have people like Scott Adams who say the solution is to get as far the fuck away as possible.
03:50 DaemonFC; And people like mjg59_ who do, and then his neighbors give them the hose instead of some antipsychotics when they're screaming outside the art museum.
03:51 DaemonFC; That woman was having a mental health crisis. San Francisco made sure she got it. The garden hose.
03:51 TR News; 55 Years After the Launch of the Poor Peoples Campaign, Taking Stock of Interlocking Injustices https://scheerpost.com/2023/07/04/55-years-after-the-launch-of-the-poor-peoples-campaign-taking-stock-of-interlocking-injustices/ | Source: Scheerpost
03:51 TR Bot; Years After the Launch of the Poor Peoples Campaign, Taking Stock of Interlocking Injustices - scheerpost.com
03:51 DaemonFC; Get outta my art museum!!! SPRAY SPRAY!
03:51 DaemonFC; MATT AND BUFFY are inside getting it.....THE ART.
03:52 DaemonFC; Matt is very cultured and civilized.
03:52 DaemonFC; Why just the other day he was in the art museum looking at the emergency fire switch and saying "Fascinating. I totally get that."
03:52 schestowitz; lol
03:53 TR News; US Watchdog Validates Whistleblower Claims Against Agriculture Department's Largest Research Facility https://thedissenter.org/osc-whistleblower-allegations-usda-largest-research-center/ | Source: The Dissenter
03:53 TR Bot; USDA Ordered To Investigate Hazardous Working Conditions
03:54 DaemonFC; They were passing around wine and cheese. There was a banana duct taped to the wall.
03:54 TR News; Heatwaves scorch parts of three continents, threaten to top record temperatures https://www.france24.com/en/environment/20230717-heatwaves-scorch-parts-of-three-continents-threatening-to-top-record-temperatures
03:54 TR Bot; Heatwaves scorch parts of three continents, threaten to break temperature records
03:54 mjg59_; Age 18-29, about 3x protection from death with vaccination. 30-49, about 4.5x. 50-79, almost 10x.
03:54 DaemonFC; He started wondering if the artist was preoccupied with phallic shapes and The New Red Green Show.
03:55 schestowitz; just checked, spamnil is still clickfrauding youtube and it's very obvious to see
03:55 mjg59_; "Doesn't work as well as hoped for", I won't disagree with. "Doesn't work", clearly untrue.
03:55 schestowitz; DaemonFC: Tom Green Show
03:56 DaemonFC; schestowitz I hate Illinois. Like, the Chinese restaurants here are so nasty and gross that Panda Express is better.
03:56 schestowitz; headsup: unrest inside MSFT, seen 10 new comments, they feel like they get replaced by scabs
03:56 DaemonFC; And that's saying something.
03:56 mjg59_; I just don't understand this fixation on making trivially disproven assertions
03:56 schestowitz; DaemonFC: they vary
03:56 DaemonFC; About the only thing they don't screw up at the Chinese place is the lo mein noodles.
03:56 schestowitz; buy and cook
03:57 DaemonFC; I don't know how Dave (mom's third husband) is even alive. A gallon of milk, a tub of cake frosting....per day. Smokes.
03:57 DaemonFC; He sat down to eat a plate of noodles that were quite good on their own, didn't even taste them. Someone brought them in where mom worked.
03:58 DaemonFC; So he grabs a big glass container of soy sauce and dumps HALF THE SAUCE on the noodles.
03:58 DaemonFC; And then starts eating them.
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03:58 TR News; Southern Europe boiling and scorching https://en.sat24.com/en/forecastimages/europa/forecasttemp
03:58 TR Bot; forecast Weather Europe, Satellite Weather Europe, Weather Forecast, Rainfall, Clouds, Sun in Europe - SAT24.com
03:58 DaemonFC; The man is a monster.
03:59 DaemonFC; Would you like some cake frosting on your noodles, which are swimming in soy sauce? (He'd probably love that.)
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
03:59 starstreak; mjg59_, he makes money doing it
04:00 DaemonFC; mjg59_I just don't understand this fixation on making trivially disproven assertions
04:00 DaemonFC; I don't get why you make stabbing "jokes".
04:00 DaemonFC; In light of the CEO killed in a STABBING in San Francisco, where people get it. (Stabbed.)
04:00 DaemonFC; Or Joseph Cantrell, the Microsoft Nazi.
04:01 DaemonFC; On my darkest day I've never, not once, openly "joked" about stabbing another person.
04:01 schestowitz; yeah
04:01 schestowitz; gulagboy: punch a turf
04:02 schestowitz; also gulagbog: i was a terf
04:02 schestowitz; in my mid-20s
04:02 DaemonFC; The only thing I've ever shot someone with was a Nerf gun during a consensual Nerf fight.
04:02 DaemonFC; :)
04:03 schestowitz; gulagboy: sometimes i want to stab the mortgage people
04:03 schestowitz; "just joking"
04:03 DaemonFC; The interest rates went up though. SHARPLY
04:03 DaemonFC; Because it's COOL out there. Real COOL.
04:03 schestowitz; give them the tip
04:04 schestowitz; long tip
04:04 DaemonFC; Just the tip.
04:04 schestowitz; Biden's economic marvel
04:04 schestowitz; well, done
04:04 schestowitz; re-elect
04:05 schestowitz; or be a nazi
04:06 schestowitz; https://www.politico.com/video/2016/02/albright-theres-a-special-place-in-hell-for-women-who-dont-help-each-other-042709
04:06 TR Bot; 'There's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other.' - POLITICO
04:06 DaemonFC; https://www.questhealth.com/product/genetic-insights-GSS.html
04:06 TR Bot; At-Home Genetic Health Test | DNA Health Test Kit | Quest
04:06 DaemonFC; GATTACA
04:06 schestowitz; " During a campaign rally for Hillary Clinton on Saturday, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright supported Clinton."
04:06 DaemonFC; You pay to see if you're an INVALID now.
04:06 schestowitz; vote for sociopath
04:06 schestowitz; or burn in hell
04:06 schestowitz; -woman who bombed people
04:06 schestowitz; (inc. women)
04:07 DaemonFC; A lot of dystopian Sci-Fi is poo-poohed by people like mjg59_ because it basically tells you what they're planning,
04:07 DaemonFC; Wait until you need to have "genetic testing" to obtain a license to have children.
04:07 starstreak; well trump is a nazi so
04:08 schestowitz; "it's not just the tip, it's everything! :`("
04:08 schestowitz; good news
04:08 schestowitz; schneier is becoming a geneticist
04:08 DaemonFC; I don't think people should have to obtain a license. I think there should be a limit, and one that applies to everyone.
04:08 DaemonFC; 2 would be a reasonable limit.
04:08 schestowitz; he decided to go work for pharma company
04:09 DaemonFC; Until we lower our population to a more sustainable level.
04:09 schestowitz; and drpizza will issue many articles about Schneier's marvellous skills in biotech
04:09 DaemonFC; Think of it as like a nuclear disarmament agreement, for the population crisis.
04:09 schestowitz; proven by his blind loyalty to Pfizer
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04:09 elusive_woman; your irc channel seems to attract pedophiles like drpizza and daemonfc
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04:10 schestowitz; what?
04:10 schestowitz; the trolling here is the issue
04:10 schestowitz; go troll some other irc network
04:11 DaemonFC; I've actually said they should shoot DrPizza or put him on a labor detail until he falls over dead.
04:11 DaemonFC; Feeding him punishment loaf until whenever that happens. No healthcare.
04:12 DaemonFC; They should make the pedophile convicts so miserable that they don't want to live and they should force them to do menial and undesirable labor for the betterment of the community.
04:12 elusive_woman; you're projecting
04:13 elusive_woman; mandy uses tiktok, so 12 year old boy, QED
04:13 DaemonFC; No, I just have funny ideas about crime and punishment, like that certain crimes should be punished severely.
04:13 DaemonFC; It's the Democrat judges that let all the pedos loose on our country.
04:13 elusive_woman; most pedophiles are actually republicans
04:13 DaemonFC; Our county, specifically. They only get a few days in jail, if that, then they're back out in a public park again.
04:14 DaemonFC; I think it actually crosses political lines, honestly. But it's more on the Democrat side of the fence.
04:14 DaemonFC; Hollywood, judges that let em go.
04:15 DaemonFC; Louisiana tried to execute them and the Supreme Court stopped it.
04:15 DaemonFC; Florida's getting tired of them living under that bridge and is trying to pass the death sentence so they can get it in front of a court that may let it happen.
04:15 elusive_woman; on to catch a preditor, it was mostly gay men and priests
04:16 DaemonFC; Not really.
04:16 DaemonFC; Predator was usually a girl.
04:16 DaemonFC; The fake "girl" was the bait.
04:16 DaemonFC; I think they stopped because they caught a police officer and a county prosecutor arriving to screw little girls.
04:17 DaemonFC; That would be about the time they stopped. It was all fun and games when it was a plumber and a guy who did road construction.
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04:17 DaemonFC; But when you start revealing that it's the cops and prosecutors too..... GAME OVER.
04:17 elusive_woman; a county prosecutor killed himself when the police were about to storm his house and they found child porn
04:17 DaemonFC; Good.
04:18 DaemonFC; Did they get Morgan Freeman to narrate that?
04:18 DaemonFC; That was the best part of the movie.
04:18 DaemonFC; :)
04:18 elusive_woman; lol
04:18 TR News; (NEW): Cult brainwashing: Charles Manson, Andrew Cater & Debian family fallacy http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Cult_brainwashing_Charles_Manson_Andrew_Cater_Debian_family_fal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Cult_brainwashing_Charles_Manson_Andrew_Cater_Debian_family_fal.gmi
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04:18 TR News; Sudan fighting sparks communications blackout in Khartoum, disease outbreaks https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20230714-khartoum-faces-communications-blackout-as-fighting-intensifies-in-sudan
04:18 TR Bot; Sudan fighting sparks communications blackout in Khartoum, disease outbreaks
04:19 DaemonFC; I think my favorite episode was the guy that showed up with one of those $5 fake iPods you get on eBay or something.
04:19 DaemonFC; Discount Jeffrey Epstein.
04:19 DaemonFC; BONUS!
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04:20 DaemonFC; Yeah, there were a string of suicides due to the stings.
04:20 DaemonFC; The convictions, and the stings.
04:20 DaemonFC; South Park made fun of this. "Oh shit, Chris Hansen!" *bang!*
04:20 DaemonFC; Bodies pile up.
04:21 DaemonFC; There isn't any British TV like this.
04:21 DaemonFC; South Park.
04:21 DaemonFC; They don't do anything that's funny in a subversive sort of way or because it's just so wrong.
04:23 TR News; African tech workers press global social media giants for better conditions https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Africa/2023/0712/African-tech-workers-press-global-social-media-giants-for-better-conditions
04:23 TR Bot; content moderators face off with tech giants Facebook, ChatGPT - CSMonitor.com
04:23 schestowitz; still down: https://yewtu.be/feed/popular
04:23 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://yewtu.be/feed/popular )
04:24 starstreak; UK is the no fun zone
04:24 schestowitz; not updated in months https://yewtu.be/feed/popular
04:24 DaemonFC; The eggies on the King go splat splat splat, splat splat splat, splat splat splat.....
04:25 schestowitz; Ben Sturmfels still in charge of it
04:25 schestowitz; https://mediagoblin.org/news/mediagoblin-0.12.1-release.html
04:25 TR Bot; MediaGoblin 0.12.1 | MediaGoblin
04:25 schestowitz; very interesting
04:25 DaemonFC; I was sitting there at McDonalds thinking about what a piece of shit Charles III is.
04:25 schestowitz; what if... all instances of invidious got crushed?
04:25 DaemonFC; Like, just a monstrous carbuncle of a human being. :) (His term for modern brutalism architecture.)
04:25 schestowitz; what other easy ways to access content that's only in YouTube?
04:26 DaemonFC; I know why he doesn't like modern brutalist architecture.
04:26 bnchs; schestowitz: it isn't gonna happen
04:26 schestowitz; https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/dec/16/prince-charles-letters-to-ministers
04:26 TR Bot; Prince Charles faces fresh meddling claim over letters to ministers | King Charles III | The Guardian
04:26 schestowitz; https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-charles-politics-king-meddling-neutral-political-views-environment-architecture-royal-a8623066.html
04:26 TR Bot; Prince Charles insists he will not meddle in politics when he becomes king | The Independent | The Independent
04:26 schestowitz; which happened
04:27 DaemonFC; I mean, that's architecture for the people. You know, it caught on in the UK and the US for a while, but it was really popular in Communist countries, where one of the things they did get right was plenty of no frills housing for people in buildings that were built to last and be low burden.
04:28 DaemonFC; It caught on in all of the wrong ways in the US.
04:28 DaemonFC; They mainly used it for shopping malls and stuff which are still there, but no stores.
04:29 DaemonFC; It became associated with the middle class, which hardly exists in the US anymore thanks to years and years of the Democrats and Republicans giving it their all.
04:29 schestowitz; photo?
04:29 schestowitz; brutalist mall in us?
04:29 DaemonFC; of?
04:29 DaemonFC; Oh, Wikipedia should have one.
04:29 DaemonFC; Five Points Mall I think it was called before it failed.
04:29 DaemonFC; It was the North Park Mall when I was a kid.
04:30 schestowitz; now it's lots of glass and metal
04:30 schestowitz; which is worse in some ways
04:30 schestowitz; and ages poorly
04:30 schestowitz; easy and fast to put together
04:30 schestowitz; then turns to scrap
04:30 DaemonFC; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Five_Points_Mall.jpg
04:30 DaemonFC; Yes, here it is looking very bad.
04:30 schestowitz; yes, all concrete
04:31 DaemonFC; https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Roses_store_at_Five_Points_Mall.jpg
04:31 schestowitz; cracked asphalt around
04:31 schestowitz; imagine the looks at 30 years of abandonment
04:31 DaemonFC; The Roses used to be a Hill's Department Store when that mall was nice.
04:31 DaemonFC; We used to go to this mall all the time when I was young.
04:31 DaemonFC; It was thriving, bustling.
04:31 DaemonFC; All the stores were full.
04:32 DaemonFC; They powerwashed it all the time.
04:32 schestowitz; arndale center used to be conrete
04:32 schestowitz; they rebuilt most of it
04:32 DaemonFC; Had everything you needed if you wanted a book or movie that just came out. A general store (Hills), a movie theater, A JC Penney and a Sears.
04:32 DaemonFC; A nice arcade.
04:32 DaemonFC; A Radio Shack.
04:32 DaemonFC; A York Steakhouse.
04:32 schestowitz; https://ilovemanchester.com/40-years-of-manchester-arndale-how-the-iconic-shopping-centre-has-changed-from-the-70s-80s-90s-to-now
04:32 TR Bot; 40 years of Manchester Arndale - how the iconic shopping centre has changed from the 70s, 80s, 90s to now
04:33 DaemonFC; (That was really good. And affordable.)
04:33 DaemonFC; MARISOL has odd ideas about affordability.
04:33 DaemonFC; $14 for eggs and toast is a little much.
04:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz The mall is even worse now I hear.
04:35 DaemonFC; Everything is gone except Planet Fitness, Applebee's, and that Roses. Whatever that is.
04:35 DaemonFC; In a mall that has space for 15 times as much stuff.
04:35 schestowitz; https://ilovemanchester.com/manchester-arndale-memories-shopping-centre-40th-birthday
04:35 TR Bot; Your Manchester Arndale memories as shopping centre celebrates 40th birthday
04:36 TR News; Scientists Discover Ancient Traces of The Oldest Glaciers Ever Found https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-discover-ancient-traces-of-the-oldest-glaciers-ever-found
04:36 TR Bot; Discover Ancient Traces of The Oldest Glaciers Ever Found : ScienceAlert
04:36 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lj-L72Acq8
04:36 TR Bot; https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=1Lj-L72Acq8
04:36 TR Bot; vid.puffyan.us | Checking Out the Closed Raintree Plaza - Marion, Indiana - Invidious
04:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz There's the other mall.
04:37 TR News; Review of SunFounder Raspberry Pi UPS Power Supply https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/07/15/review-sunfounder-raspberry-pi-ups-power-supply/
04:37 TR Bot; Review of SunFounder Raspberry Pi UPS Power Supply - CNX Software
04:37 TR News; Monitor One A customizable cellular IoT gateway for industrial equipment monitoring https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/07/16/monitor-one-a-customizable-cellular-iot-gateway-for-industrial-equipment-monitoring/
04:37 TR Bot; Monitor One - A customizable cellular IoT gateway for industrial equipment monitoring - CNX Software
04:38 DaemonFC; That restaurant at the end that's empty was the best Chinese restaurant I've ever been to.
04:38 DaemonFC; Sad. Mom says the Indiana tax department shut them down or something.
04:38 TR News; Troubleshooting my Am386SXs RAM issues https://rubenerd.com/troubleshooting-my-am386s-ram-issues/
04:38 TR Bot; Troubleshooting my Am386SXs RAM issues
04:40 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yagJPnFMmS0
04:40 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yagJPnFMmS0
04:40 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yagJPnFMmS0 )
04:40 DaemonFC; schestowitz There's where my dad worked.
04:41 schestowitz;
04:41 schestowitz; -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- -> vid.puffyan.us | Checking Out the Closed Raintree Plaza - Marion, Indiana - Invidious
04:41 schestowitz; wow, maybe software CEO should buy it
04:42 DaemonFC; I wonder if dad is in this.
04:42 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> schestowitz There's where my dad worked.
04:42 schestowitz; now it's sweatshops
04:42 schestowitz; with girld forced to smile with Tim Crook
04:43 schestowitz; "I. AM. HAPPY."
04:45 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArpoBZq5n0k&t=23s
04:45 TR Bot; https://iv.melmac.space/watch?v=ArpoBZq5n0k
04:45 TR Bot; iv.melmac.space | Fire at former RCA plant called arson - Invidious
04:46 DaemonFC; schestowitz There's what's left of it.
04:46 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGpZKHfo82k
04:46 TR Bot; https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=zGpZKHfo82k
04:46 TR Bot; invidious.baczek.me | RCA/THOMPSON PLANT BURNS - Invidious
04:47 DaemonFC; Now Marion is just dead.
04:47 DaemonFC; Old people getting it..... Social Security.
04:47 DaemonFC; Then it's done.
04:47 DaemonFC; Poor blacks nobody cares about.
04:47 DaemonFC; Living in buildings that are falling over.
04:49 DaemonFC; schestowitz This is the country Mandy came to.
04:49 DaemonFC; The one where Republicans say we have "a lot to protect from those filthy brown people".
04:49 DaemonFC; Abandoned factories burning down. Malls with nothing in them. Biden's Miracle.
04:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz Looking at everything from my childhood and what state it's in now makes me really depressed and pissed off.
04:53 DaemonFC; I know what Michael Moore must feel like when he talks about his childhood home in Michigan.
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04:53 DaemonFC; And we have all of these human manure spreaders here like mjg59_ to thank for a lot of this.
04:54 DaemonFC; We should hope the company he works for fails. He's just a barnacle anyway.
04:54 mjg59_; Flattered you think I'm so influential
04:54 DaemonFC; He'll end up resurfacing in some other swamp that's trying to make people lose their jobs./
04:54 DaemonFC; Or spying on them (Google).
04:55 mjg59_; Inventing spreadsheets put lots of people out of jobs
04:55 mjg59_; What's the right boundary here?
04:55 DaemonFC; People who make spreadsheets really don't contribute a lot.
04:55 mjg59_; Any time we invent something that makes it easier to do something, it reduces the number of people you need to do something
04:55 DaemonFC; But people who make "Powerpoint slides" and view them are even worse.
04:56 mjg59_; Yeah but I spend most of my time writing code
04:56 mjg59_; Whole bunch of Python today to deal with Yocto being a dick
04:56 DaemonFC; Hey, people who invented the nuclear weapons that murdered people in Japan "had a job" in much the same way you do.
04:56 mjg59_; Well yes I guess they did put a bunch of bomber pilots out of work
04:57 DaemonFC; Handing the product off to a despotic genocidal regime.
04:57 mjg59_; You're making your point ineffectually
04:57 mjg59_; Am I putting people out of work, or am I murdering people?
04:57 DaemonFC; You couldn't really destroy the whole world effectively with B-52s full of dumb bombs.
04:57 mjg59_; Your effortless pivots between points of criticism are impressive
04:58 DaemonFC; Most of which went off course and landed somewhere where they didn't even blow up anything important.
04:58 mjg59_; Yeah not really going to destroy the world with autonomous trucks either
04:58 mjg59_; They're still just trucks
04:58 DaemonFC; The bombs dropped with TNT just fell and blew up.
04:58 DaemonFC; Not much more than that.
04:58 DaemonFC; They fell *somewhere* and exploded. Usually exploded.
04:58 mjg59_; Well, no, they frequently didn't blow up
04:59 mjg59_; And instead killed people decades later
04:59 DaemonFC; You could aim in a general that way direction.
04:59 mjg59_; Or caused huge disruption
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 mjg59_; And aiming in a general "that way" direction also resulted in a shitload of civilian deaths
04:59 DaemonFC; But I think during the entire war there was less explosive force dropped like this than in two A-bombs.
04:59 mjg59_; The Tokyo fire bombing killed more people than Hiroshima
04:59 DaemonFC; It was kind of a bad choice to build out of wood.
04:59 DaemonFC; See; Chicago.
05:00 DaemonFC; I have joked about the Chicago fire a few times with John.
05:00 mjg59_; I guess what you're saying here is that architects who chose wood are as bad as FDR
05:00 DaemonFC; Like "Maybe they should have swept the leaves." a reference to Trump and the California fires.
05:00 DaemonFC; Or "If they hadn't used so much goddamned lacquer!"
05:00 mjg59_; You're fundamentally incapable of making a point
05:00 DaemonFC; A reference to Meet the Parents.
05:01 mjg59_; It really is an art
05:01 DaemonFC; The Chicago fire is funnier than what happened to Japan.
05:01 DaemonFC; In part because nobody did it maliciously, with hatred for an entire race that they wanted to murder.
05:02 DaemonFC; The atomic bombs on Japan were done out of race hatred.
05:02 DaemonFC; Americans saw the Japanese as vermin.
05:02 mjg59_; See, you went from saying I was bad for doing what I do, to instead talking about the Chicago fire, with zero explanation
05:02 DaemonFC; Government-backed propaganda helped a lot with that.
05:02 DaemonFC; And they wanted to kill every last one of them, for realsies.
05:02 mjg59_; The obvious conclusion is that you can't actually substantiate the argument that I'm bad
05:02 DaemonFC; And that is an unforgivable crime.
05:02 DaemonFC; Like the Holocaust.
05:02 mjg59_; But rather than admit that, you'll start talking about something else
05:02 DaemonFC; So you don't joke about it.
05:03 DaemonFC; Well, you see Matt....
05:03 DaemonFC; What happened with RCA/Thomson is that a lot of good people lost middle class jobs.
05:03 DaemonFC; And that spilled over and caused the failure of an entire city. And things like it added up and destroyed a state, and then the Midwest, and then the entire country.
05:04 DaemonFC; And it all could have been prevented by stopping Globalist politicians.
05:04 mjg59_; The country whose GDP is massively higher than it was in the 70s
05:04 DaemonFC; And people who want to put others out of work in return for their own paycheck, like you.
05:04 DaemonFC; mjg59_The country whose GDP is massively higher than it was in the 70s
05:04 DaemonFC; I don't personally know anyone who benefits from the Alleged Higher GDP.
05:04 mjg59_; There's plenty of money
05:04 mjg59_; The problem is that it's unevenly distributed
05:05 DaemonFC; Things now are a fair bit worse than they were in the 90s for most people.
05:05 DaemonFC; Even if bullshit like GDP has even doubled, it does not matter for most.
05:05 mjg59_; Industry didn't die, it just had its output redirected
05:05 DaemonFC; Most of the public is backsliding in terms of living standard.
05:05 DaemonFC; And I don't disagree with the fact that the people doing it should all die and have it taken from them.
05:05 mjg59_; I agree! That's not because of economic collapse, it's because the rich are getting even fucking richer
05:06 mjg59_; The US could have the living standards it did in the 70s and all it would take is economic redistribution
05:06 DaemonFC; Had I been of voting age in the 90s, I probably would have supported Ross Perot.
05:06 DaemonFC; I mean, looking back.
05:07 DaemonFC; He was the only candidate that warned about what NAFTA really was, and what it would do.
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05:07 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I don't know of anyone my age that lives half as well as my parents did.
05:07 DaemonFC; It's just stolen dreams and minimum wage jobs and "side hustles".
05:08 DaemonFC; Like delivering you cold, cold pizza.
05:08 mjg59_; Could you explain the pizza thing in more detail
05:08 mjg59_; Because I feel like we've talked about this
05:08 mjg59_; But you keep bringing it up
05:08 DaemonFC; Well, you did. You said it was an hour or so after you ordered it, I think.
05:08 DaemonFC; And that it was cold.
05:08 DaemonFC; And that you wondered how that could happen.
05:08 mjg59_; Indeed! The driver picked it up immediately, and then drove to the other side of the city
05:09 mjg59_; What percentage should I have tipped to avoid that
05:09 DaemonFC; Someone on a video app, if I remember correctly, said they did Doordash and if they don't get paid enough then your food sits there until the base pay gets high enough they feel it's worth it.
05:09 DaemonFC; Then you get your cold food.
05:09 DaemonFC; And that's base pay plus tip.
05:09 mjg59_; So, that's not what happened, because it got picked up immediately
05:09 DaemonFC; So if they didn't think the total amount was worth it, it sits there until it is, then it's cold.
05:09 mjg59_; It did not sit there
05:10 mjg59_; So, what's your explanation?
05:10 DaemonFC; If they drove it to the other side of the city then they were zigging and zagging, possibly they picked it up, then GrubHub had some HUGE tipper they didn't want to MISS OUT on, so they GET IT, and then you get your pizza second.
05:11 mjg59_; Ok so what should I have tipped to avoid that
05:11 mjg59_; I want a number
05:11 DaemonFC; I don't know. I pick up food myself usually. I arrange it so it's efficient to drop by and get my piping hot almost burns your hands, cheese melting off the damn thing hot, pizza. Hot.
05:12 mjg59_; That'd be great, but there's nowhere within walking distance that does gluten free pizza at 10PM
05:12 DaemonFC; With gas being like $8 a gallon by now in CALIFORNIA probably, then you tell me professor.
05:12 DaemonFC; Seems your politicians are destroying the economy and people are fleeing the state to get anywhere they can go that isn't as bad, having learned nothing.
05:12 mjg59_; Gas is not $8 a gallon
05:13 mjg59_; You're saying I didn't tip enough
05:13 DaemonFC; People in other states hate people from California because you're all so very fucking stupid
05:13 mjg59_; What percentage should it have been
05:13 mjg59_; Answer the fucking question
05:13 DaemonFC; You can't run your own state so you have to come fuck up ours.
05:13 mjg59_; Dude I haven't visited illionois since 2018
05:13 mjg59_; Your problems are not due to me
05:13 DaemonFC; Oh, there was someone a while back that said they were coming to Illinois from California.
05:13 DaemonFC; They wanted to know which part of Illinois they should be going to.
05:14 DaemonFC; I said back the way you came.
05:14 mjg59_; Cool now answer the fucking question
05:14 DaemonFC; This state has enough problems and we don't need any California transplants fucking it up worse. Giving us more crank politicians with funny ideas.
05:14 mjg59_; Or admit that you're talking shit
05:15 DaemonFC; Well, I'm not certain there's a big enough answer, honestly.
05:15 DaemonFC; The cost of living in San Francisco is so horrible people who work for Apple are living in a garage with a compost bucket for a toilet.
05:15 DaemonFC; So what do you think a tip would be that compels a service worker?
05:16 mjg59_; I tipped 30%
05:16 DaemonFC; Of....
05:16 DaemonFC; What does a pizza even cost there anyway?
05:16 mjg59_; Total tip was $11.50, based on the receipt
05:16 DaemonFC; And I knew a guy who made $26 an hour stocking a grocery store there in 2004.
05:16 mjg59_; 12 minute drive from there to here
05:17 DaemonFC; So are you telling me that this $11.50 after another two decades of inflation works out to an acceptable amount, considering $8 California gasoline that comes out of a unicorn's butt?
05:17 DaemonFC; And the prevailing wage, of course.
05:17 mjg59_; (1) gas isn't $8, (2) if you're using a gallon of gas to drive 2.5 miles, your car is fucked
05:18 DaemonFC; Yeah I know. Mine wasn't even that bad before I had it carbon cleaned.
05:18 DaemonFC; It was running rough and stalling out but it was still averaging 15.4 in the city.
05:19 mjg59_; Minimum wage + $1 a minute of driving doesn't sound too bad?
05:19 DaemonFC; I don't know where that lady was gassing up but she got some carbon deposits.
05:19 mjg59_; I mean
05:19 DaemonFC; You don't make minimum wage on Doordash do you? Didn't the voters defeat that to reimplement slavery in California?
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05:20 DaemonFC; Eat the rich! And his pizza!
05:20 DaemonFC; :)
05:20 mjg59_; There's some fuckery, but it's required to work out at about that level for the actual time spent working, which is somewhat obscene but fucking capitalism
05:21 DaemonFC; It should either work out to minimum wage or they should have to pay you at least minimum wage.
05:21 DaemonFC; End of story.
05:21 mjg59_; I agree!
05:21 mjg59_; I voted in favour of that
05:21 DaemonFC; That's how the law works for most tipped employees in Illinois even.
05:21 DaemonFC; They have to pay you $15 an hour if you're a tipped worker and don't make at least $15 an hour that week with your tips included.
05:22 DaemonFC; Otherwise I think it's $9.68 plus tips.
05:22 mjg59_; California is minimum wage + tips
05:22 mjg59_; You can't pay under minimum wage and make it up with tips
05:22 DaemonFC; So you either get $15 an hour as a floor like anyone else, from the employer, or if you go over $15 counting tips, $9.68 from the employer plus all your tips.
05:22 mjg59_; So you're a minimum of $15.50 and all tips go to you in addition to that
05:22 DaemonFC; In Indiana it's $2.14 plus tips or $7.25.
05:23 mjg59_; Which is civilised!
05:23 DaemonFC; It's horrid.
05:23 mjg59_; It's civilised that tips can't make up minimum wage
05:23 mjg59_; It's fucked that they can
05:23 mjg59_; California is civilised in this respect
05:23 DaemonFC; They just don't extend that to app workers.
05:23 DaemonFC; Because democracy brings out the worst in people.
05:24 DaemonFC; You banned gay marriage there too.
05:24 DaemonFC; Democracy.
05:24 mjg59_; Because they're classed as contractors, not employees
05:24 mjg59_; Which is fucked!
05:24 mjg59_; Which I voted against!
05:24 DaemonFC; Right, so the solution is less Democracy.
05:24 DaemonFC; Your legislature fixed both problems and the voters directly fucked shit up again.
05:24 mjg59_; Direct democracy is not a great plan, I agree
05:24 mjg59_; So, how much should I have tipped
05:25 DaemonFC; Well, I'm not an economist, but if I worked on an app-based delivery platform I'd probably figure cost of gas and minimum wage. Divide it roughly by mileage and expected time of work.
05:26 DaemonFC; So there is a minimum amount here. Let's say my Buick averages 18.5 in the city. I got it cleaned, remember.
05:26 DaemonFC; Gas is about $4 a gallon.
05:26 mjg59_; Ok, so about $1 of gas, and about 20 minutes of work, so $5.17, and that makes $6.17
05:26 DaemonFC; Guy 5 miles from me wants a pizza.
05:26 mjg59_; 2.5 miles
05:26 DaemonFC; Call it a third of a gallon because idling.
05:26 mjg59_; So call it a quarter
05:26 DaemonFC; Minimum wage is $15 an hour here.
05:27 mjg59_; $15.50, so $5.17
05:27 DaemonFC; If it takes me 14 minutes to get 5 miles here (which it does), then that is easily rounded to a quarter of an hour.
05:27 mjg59_; I gave it 20 minutes to include waiting time
05:28 mjg59_; That gives us a total of $6.17
05:28 DaemonFC; So that's $5.08, but then what about wear and tear and mileage, and depreciation?
05:28 DaemonFC; What about the cost to tell my insurance company I deliver food or give people rides?
05:28 DaemonFC; What about incidentals?
05:29 mjg59_; Let's add an extra 50% for that, so $9.25
05:29 DaemonFC; So we're probably at $8-9 now just before you start to make me a little teeny bit interested, and this is Illinois.
05:29 DaemonFC; Insurance and gas and minimum wage where you are is a lot higher.
05:29 mjg59_; And bear in mind that Doordash *does* pay a minimum amount in addition to the tip
05:29 DaemonFC; But someone who isn't into economics throws me a $20 because he's the nicest man ever.
05:29 mjg59_; Gas is about $4, minimum wage is $15.50
05:30 DaemonFC; But uh oh, I just picked up your Grimace's Birthday Meal from McDonalds already in the other app.
05:30 mjg59_; Ok your argument is no longer that I didn't tip enough, but that someone else tipped more
05:30 DaemonFC; So I drive to his house first to get the base plus the crisp $20.
05:30 DaemonFC; Then you get a melted Grimace frosty.
05:30 DaemonFC; And presumably you grimace.
05:31 DaemonFC; Because nobody is happy to see a melted purple thing that they're supposed to consume.
05:31 DaemonFC; It's even worse than a cold pizza.
05:32 mjg59_; I made it clear at the time that I understand the economic incentives that resulted in me having a bad outcome
05:32 mjg59_; Everyone involved should charge me more money so the drivers do not feel obliged to do that
05:32 DaemonFC; There are a number of plausible things that could have resulted in your experience.
05:32 DaemonFC; Maybe the guy was a bag of dicks and had Grindr open in the other window. He had your pizza sitting out in the car while he went over to fuck a guy in the ass with no condom.
05:32 DaemonFC; And then handled your cold pizza.
05:33 mjg59_; How much would I have to tip to avoid that
05:33 DaemonFC; More than the non-monetary value of his life experience while your pizza was losing heat rapidly to the atmosphere.
05:33 DaemonFC; :D
05:34 DaemonFC; There is an economic value people place on sex otherwise there wouldn't be prostitution.
05:34 DaemonFC; So maybe there's no easy answer or it would have gone to an unrealistic amount, like $100.
05:35 DaemonFC; Economists have to assign numbers to some really weird shit.
05:35 DaemonFC; Like how much is losing your hand worth.
05:35 mjg59_; Hey it sounds like you agree that this may not have been down to me tipping an unreasonably small amount!
05:35 mjg59_; But that other factors may have resulted in the driver making a rational decision to do something else instead!
05:35 DaemonFC; The simplest answer was that there was a priority with a higher dollar value.
05:36 mjg59_; Sure, and maybe that was the guy being paid to fuck someone?
05:36 mjg59_; Who knows
05:36 mjg59_; I have no reason to believe that
05:36 DaemonFC; People will do some stupid or illogical things, including with money.
05:36 mjg59_; It sounds like you're saying I should have tipped $200 if I wanted a hot pizza
05:36 DaemonFC; That's sort of why the economy doesn't totally freeze up.
05:37 mjg59_; But maybe it should have been more than that
05:37 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Well, you know the banking system might have collapsed entirely in 2008 if it wasn't for all the drug money.
05:38 DaemonFC; When they're not opening fake accounts, they're laundering money for terrorists and drug cartels.
05:38 mjg59_; Yeah see this is you changing the topic again
05:38 DaemonFC; And you can have your mortgages under the same roof.
05:38 mjg59_; You've admitted you have no idea what I should have tipped, but you assert that I just didn't tip enough
05:39 DaemonFC; I mean, you could have asked him why he drove clear over to the other side of town first.
05:39 DaemonFC; If you were that interested.
05:39 mjg59_; I really didn't care
05:39 mjg59_; I was hungry
05:39 DaemonFC; I would have.
05:39 mjg59_; Cool
05:39 DaemonFC; I would have let him off with "family emergency" or something.
05:39 mjg59_; I didn't remove the tip afterwards
05:39 mjg59_; He still got the money
05:40 mjg59_; Because I don't want to fuck over workers even if I have a bad experience
05:40 DaemonFC; I used one of those apps once and I was not happy that I did.
05:40 mjg59_; He's just trying to get by
05:40 DaemonFC; Like, this woman came up in a broken down car that barely worked, half rust, her kids in the back because she couldn't pay for childcare I guess.
05:41 DaemonFC; These aren't people who need some extra walking around money.
05:41 DaemonFC; These are people that were failed by the system and have nothing else. And tech assholes in California exploit them.
05:42 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I was at a Rosatti's Pizza. I went there to eat-in, and this guy called after he used Doordash.
05:43 DaemonFC; He called there to chew out the guy at the cash register, because he found out the pizzas were cheaper directly (duh) and Rosatti's doesn't charge a "service fee" (duh).
05:43 DaemonFC; So he decided he'd yell at some guy who had nothing to do with Doordash.
05:43 DaemonFC; I mean, there are some stupendously dumb assholes in the world.
05:44 DaemonFC; Maybe call and ask. Maybe get it delivered by Rosatti's.
05:44 DaemonFC; Maybe come get your own damn pizza.
05:44 mjg59_; I always check whether the restaurant has its own delivery service and use that instead
05:44 mjg59_; If it's within walking distance, I walk there
05:44 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I always swing by and get my own pizza. You don't have to tip and you get it right as it comes out and then dart home and you have pizza.
05:44 DaemonFC; And life is good.
05:45 mjg59_; Uh you should absolutely tip on pickup
05:45 DaemonFC; I'm always out and about doing something anyway.
05:45 mjg59_; Back of house is still doing their shit
05:45 DaemonFC; The tips are to the driver.
05:45 DaemonFC; It says they ALL go to the driver.
05:45 DaemonFC; It even says it on the receipt.
05:45 mjg59_; Yeah, and that's fucked
05:45 DaemonFC; The restaurant employees are not allowed to accept tips.
05:46 mjg59_; That's also fucked
05:46 DaemonFC; Not as fucked as Subway.
05:46 mjg59_; Who said anything about Subway
05:46 mjg59_; Stick to a fucking topic
05:46 DaemonFC; Know someone that was ordered by a manager to pull stale bread out and feed it to people. Out of the trash.
05:46 DaemonFC; Oh, well, they do allow you to tip the workers there.
05:47 DaemonFC; Then the managers say the drawer came up short so they steal it from the tip jar.
05:47 mjg59_; Awesome yes wage theft is a thing and shouldn't be
05:47 mjg59_; That doesn't mean that pickup orders shouldn't tip
05:47 DaemonFC; They hire people who don't dare report it.
05:47 DaemonFC; Need three guesses?
05:48 mjg59_; You are the most tedious person to talk to on the entire planet
05:48 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, enjoy the trash bread and the slime in the soda fountain.
05:48 DaemonFC; I hope they go out of business.
05:49 DaemonFC; I don't mention any of the health code violations because that's where the lawyers and judges go eat at.
05:49 DaemonFC; Fuck em./
05:49 DaemonFC; I know quite a lot of people around town though.
05:50 DaemonFC; Everyone is having a hard time except the police, the judges, the lawyers, the doctors, and the "software engineers".
05:50 mjg59_; Sounds like based on the calculations we did you don't think my tip was unreasonable, so I guess you'll stop complaining about that in future
05:50 DaemonFC; They get a lot of money to actively make people's lives worse.
05:51 DaemonFC; It's amazing how the doctor has become the latest way for the state to intrude and spy.
05:51 DaemonFC; "Do you have any guns in the house?"
05:51 DaemonFC; I left it blank.
05:51 DaemonFC; I checked my medical file and it says "No."
05:51 DaemonFC; I didn't tell them yes or no.
05:51 DaemonFC; It's none of their business.
05:52 DaemonFC; Why does the state demand your doctor to tell them something the state police can already infer by you having a FOID card?
05:52 DaemonFC; Or do they think Thugnificent is going to go into the doctor and say "Yeah, I have a ton of illegal guns. LOL"
05:52 DaemonFC; "I used one of them in a drive by this morning!"
05:53 DaemonFC; Sounds like based on the calculations we did you don't think my tip was unreasonable, so I guess you'll stop complaining about that in future
05:53 DaemonFC; Economics is sort of murky.
05:53 DaemonFC; What I actually said was that I think it was a lack of motivation in the tip amount.
05:54 DaemonFC; But since that's different for every person in every case for every reason, whether they felt you were being cheap with them or that it wasn't enough to put it at the top of their priority list.....something happened.
05:55 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Of course what things are worth is different to everyone.
05:55 DaemonFC; There's idiots like MARISOL that think a pair of eyeglasses is worth $1,400 because it has a brand on the cheap plastic shit.
05:55 DaemonFC; Are you the kind of guy that walks in and pays $1,400 for a pair of prescription glasses you're going to wear for a year or so until your prescription changes again?
05:56 DaemonFC; Or a baseball card.
05:56 DaemonFC; Maybe you like a rare one from 1950 that has a misprint on it and it's a $10,000 baseball card. I don't give a fuck about your baseball cards.
05:56 DaemonFC; What motivates every person is different.
05:57 DaemonFC; Since we can't know what will motivate a particular person, we have to make a certain set of assumptions.
05:57 DaemonFC; What is the usual thing that other people do that works?
05:58 DaemonFC; That's usually where we start with tips.
05:58 DaemonFC; Did you know that in the 1950s a 10% tip was a good tip?
05:58 DaemonFC; 10%!
05:58 mjg59_; Were my assumptions inappropriate?
05:58 DaemonFC; Maybe Doordash's base rate really sucked.
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:59 DaemonFC; I don't know. I mean. Mandy has oodles and oodles of PPTO hours. They automatically excuse you for absences.
06:00 DaemonFC; If they put him on the schedule for 4 hours one week and that's weird, I go you know what. You have 80 PPTO hours.....4 hours is not worth getting out of bed and driving and then going and picking you up.
06:00 DaemonFC; Let's just spend the day together and watch shit on TV.
06:01 DaemonFC; So we take a day for us because 4 hours is not a shift that involves getting up, showering, shaving, getting some coffee in you, driving, fighting traffic on the way back, burning gas.
06:02 DaemonFC; It's about you have to offer something motivating.
06:02 DaemonFC; And I don't know if that's easy to do with Doordash because if there was a Walmart hiring in 20 miles they wouldn't be on this app.
06:04 DaemonFC; You're dealing with a fairly unmotivated person in the first place. All these expenses. Not much income.
06:04 DaemonFC; How would you like it if they paid you less than minimum wage and took Social Security and Medicare taxes from you TWICE?
06:05 DaemonFC; You're not making any money but you need this so you can qualify for shit-ass Obamacare or something?
06:05 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Do you lack the ability to think like this or something?
06:06 DaemonFC; mjg59_: What do you think about the email Quest Diagnostics sent me about Genetics Testing?
06:06 mjg59_; What does question two have to do with question one
06:06 DaemonFC; Do you think that if it had predictive value that Medicare or Medicaid would pay for it?
06:07 DaemonFC; Nothing, I just would like your opinion on this.
06:07 mjg59_; I paid what I thought was a good amount of money for the service I was expecting to receieve
06:07 DaemonFC; Medicare in particular seems to like paying for things that head off cancer before it gets serious.
06:08 mjg59_; And the state of the US healthcare system is fucked, resulting in more money being spent on care than prevention
06:08 DaemonFC; I wonder if Genetics Testing is some sort of racist pseudoscientific garbage or something.
06:08 DaemonFC; It smells like quackery to me.
06:08 DaemonFC; Insurance doesn't cover it, Medicare doesn't cover it. They use scare tactics.
06:08 mjg59_; But you have a weird tension between hospitals benefiting from you being sick and insurance companies benefiting from you not being sick
06:08 DaemonFC; "Don't you want to know if you might get CANCER!?"
06:08 mjg59_; But since they're not the same thing, it doesn't get resolved
06:09 mjg59_; And so you have the worst of both worlds
06:09 DaemonFC; I mean there does come a point where like schestowitz says you're paying them to dig in the wrong ditch.
06:10 DaemonFC; They couldn't find anything wrong with my heart with an ECG or a CAC scan.
06:10 DaemonFC; I'm considering calling it here and now, honestly.
06:11 DaemonFC; They have no idea what predictive value CAC scores have.
06:12 DaemonFC; There's people walking around in their 80s doing quite well with a CAC score of 2215. Which if you buy into this CAC thing, should be dead man walking.
06:12 DaemonFC; Mine was 0. So meh. Whatever that means.
06:12 DaemonFC; They seem to like selling them though.
06:13 DaemonFC; I noticed the system is full of stuff like this.
06:14 DaemonFC; Tests where the doctors aren't sure what to make of them, but they push them. Procedures that aren't needed and other doctors end up cleaning the mess up.
06:15 DaemonFC; I think if you look closely you begin to see a 19th century carnival barker system of "testing".
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06:20 DaemonFC; mjg59_: Well, the insurance companies seem to be mostly happy with getting massive discounts vs. fake prices. But the fake prices become real prices to people who don't buy the insurance.
06:21 DaemonFC; So they benefit greatly from this.
06:21 DaemonFC; You're so scared of the fake prices that you go running to them for "protection".
06:21 DaemonFC; So they're in bed with the "providers" to charge so much that nobody would dare not do business with the insurance company. It's a protection racket.
06:22 DaemonFC; You can look at an EOB for two seconds and see what's going on here.
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06:22 DaemonFC; Nobody would pay a dime for insurance if their lab bill was going to be $35 and not $750.
06:23 DaemonFC; elusive_woman: Now I'm watching those old Dateline episodes to get a laugh.
06:23 DaemonFC; Thanks.
06:24 DaemonFC; Guy shows up naked with a pizza and a fake iPod off AliExpress. "Hi, are you the 12 year old?" Why yes, let me go get some cookies! *BAM* Chris Hansen
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06:38 DaemonFC; I think my favorite part about later episodes of that show was that a lot of them said they had seen it on TV and they were now on the episode.
06:39 DaemonFC; So I mean, like, knowing that there are traps out there should do something to discourage people from the thing. I mean, the police have a lot of traps even though Dateline Predator has been off the air since they caught someone "important".
06:39 DaemonFC; Again, it's funny how this works.
06:39 DaemonFC; As soon as they catch someone they didn't want to expose, the whole show gets canceled.
06:39 DaemonFC; There were a string of suicides leading up to the prosecutor, and they didn't care and they kept going.
06:40 DaemonFC; But without a show, the cops still set up honeypot traps. They do it on Grindr.
06:40 DaemonFC; They make fake accounts and say they're underage or that they have drugs or stuff. It's always something illegal they're proposing.
06:41 DaemonFC; And the way I determined this was a trap (when I was on Grindr between John and Mandy and was looking FOR AN ADULT) was when they would message you.
06:41 DaemonFC; If you told them no, all the fake profiles would brigade you and they wouldn't stop. You'd block one of them and more would ask.
06:42 DaemonFC; And none of them were 17. (17 is legal in Illinois) So it goes, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18 There is no 17 on Grindr.
06:42 elusive_woman; Jeff Sokol is the funniest one
06:42 DaemonFC; And all of the fake profiles looked exactly the same. Cropped face photo. Nobody recognizable. Stock text saying something generic like "young in hs".
06:43 DaemonFC; And if you triangulated by GPS coordinates, which I can do, they're all camped out at a police station.
06:43 DaemonFC; So you have a bunch of 13 year olds looking for gay sex, who are offering you coke because why not. And they're all at the police station.
06:43 DaemonFC; :)
06:43 elusive_woman; iphones scrub EXIF data
06:43 DaemonFC; It's not EXIF data.
06:44 DaemonFC; You get a Fake GPS app and enable mock location.
06:44 DaemonFC; You drag the pin to the local police station, which you get from Google.
06:44 DaemonFC; Then they're "0 feet away".
06:44 elusive_woman; why are you checking if 13 year olds are police?
06:44 DaemonFC; You can easily figure out where someone on Grindr actually is by doing this.
06:44 DaemonFC; It gets closer or further away.
06:45 DaemonFC; elusive_womanwhy are you checking if 13 year olds are police?
06:45 elusive_woman; i dont talk to 13 year olds on grindr
06:45 DaemonFC; Because I told one of them that I knew they were the police and they should probably fake their location.
06:45 DaemonFC; Just to thumb my nose at them.
06:46 DaemonFC; Neither do I. I was talking to a police officer on Grindr.
06:46 DaemonFC; And telling them how much smarter I was than they are.
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06:47 DaemonFC; The reason so many people get stalkers on Grindr is because you can figure out exactly where anyone on Grindr lives like I just told you.
06:48 DaemonFC; Within about 5 or 6 feet of where they are while they have it open.
06:48 elusive_woman; ok
06:48 TR News; A number from A Million Random Digits https://rubenerd.com/a-number-from-a-million-random-digits/
06:48 TR Bot; A number from A Million Random Digits
06:48 elusive_woman; im not a man so i dont know how grindr works
06:48 elusive_woman; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj48xUT0k44&pp=ygUKamVmZiBzb2tvbA%3D%3D
06:48 TR Bot; https://iv.melmac.space/watch?v=Gj48xUT0k44
06:48 TR Bot; iv.melmac.space | Jeff Sokol Uncut - Invidious
06:48 DaemonFC; If you use Grindr you should turn off precise distance.
06:49 DaemonFC; Then your picture just gets closer or further but you could be any distance really.
06:49 DaemonFC; Miles away.
06:49 elusive_woman; sounds like a scary app
06:49 TR News; What do you want me to do? https://rubenerd.com/what-do-you-want-me-to-do/
06:49 TR Bot; What do you want me to do?
06:49 DaemonFC; It is, kind of.
06:50 DaemonFC; I mean, I've had some good experiences on it, some bad ones.
06:50 DaemonFC; I'm married because of it.
06:50 DaemonFC; :/
06:51 DaemonFC; Stephen Fry was talking about how much he liked using Grindr.
06:52 DaemonFC; I mean, if you want to compare it to something, it's sort of like that screen that Logan 5 had in Logan's Run.
06:52 DaemonFC; You flip it on, find someone to have sex with, and then well, that's kind of how most people use it.
06:53 DaemonFC; It's unfortunate how many bad things there are about it.
06:53 DaemonFC; That isn't in itself a bad thing. Certainly consensual sex between two adults isn't something that an enlightened 21st century person should be angered by.
06:53 DaemonFC; And technology that enables that isn't anything new.
06:54 DaemonFC; What makes Grindr worse I think is because it requires a cell phone, it wants personally identifying information, it sells data to advertisers, which is exactly what you want with an app to find people for sex.
06:54 DaemonFC; And because it has such granular distance given, it's useful for people who are really crazy, right?
06:55 DaemonFC; So you might have it open at home or somewhere you frequent and people can find out where you are and then you have a stalker or something.
06:55 elusive_woman; or get robbed or lynched
06:55 TR News; Qt Insight 1.3 Released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-insight-1.3-released
06:55 TR Bot; Qt Insight 1.3 Released
06:55 DaemonFC; I mean, back in the day if you wanted to meet someone for sex from the Internet you said let's meet at the mall or a McDonald's.
06:55 TR News; Commercial LTS Qt 6.2.9 Released https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-6.2.9-released
06:55 TR Bot; Commercial LTS Qt 6.2.9 Released
06:55 DaemonFC; You kind of got an idea first of is this person freaking me the fuck out.
06:55 TR News; VxWorks for Qt 5.15.14 Released https://www.qt.io/blog/vxworks-for-qt-5.15.14-released
06:56 TR Bot; VxWorks for Qt 5.15.14 Released
06:56 DaemonFC; And that was better than this.
06:56 TR News; Qt Contributor Summit 2023 - Venue, Registration, and More https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-contributor-summit-2023-venue-registration-and-more
06:56 TR Bot; Qt Contributor Summit 2023 - Venue, Registration, and More
06:56 DaemonFC; elusive_womanor get robbed or lynched
06:56 DaemonFC; Yes, there have been cases where you know, people got stabbed and stuff.
06:56 DaemonFC; Because of meeting up with someone who turned out to be a freak.
06:56 DaemonFC; Not someone who was totally joking about stabbing people.
06:57 DaemonFC; As I'm sure Mr. Garrett truly and honestly was/
06:57 DaemonFC; I don't believe for a minute that people out there are having less sex. Like, the media is just making this up to sell the population crisis panic.
06:58 TR News; (NEW): Free Yourself from Surveillance Capitalism with the Liberty Phone http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Free_Yourself_from_Surveillance_Capitalism_with_the_Liberty_Pho.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Free_Yourself_from_Surveillance_Capitalism_with_the_Liberty_Pho.gmi
06:59 TR Bot; Tux Machines Free Yourself from Surveillance Capitalism with the Liberty Phone
06:59 DaemonFC; I've NEVER had trouble finding a sex partner from GenZ to Boomers and I'm not even the most desirable person out there. I mean, meh. I am at least decent enough that I stopped doing this when I got married.
06:59 DaemonFC; But I doubt people in general are having less sex, of any generation. The media is making this up to sell a government narrative.
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
06:59 DaemonFC; People are being more careful to avoid pregnancy, because of what mjg59_ and I discussed earlier.
07:00 DaemonFC; People without kids don't live half as good as my parents did when they were my age.
07:00 DaemonFC; So fuck this whole idea of having kids and giving them to the state crap to death.
07:01 DaemonFC; When I was a kid we went out to eat all the time, we had lots of nice clothes, we had a house, we had two decent working cars at all times, and I went to private school (Catholic at one point, actually.)
07:01 DaemonFC; We went on weekend trips just to see things.
07:01 starstreak; republicans ban abortion because they want more white babies, so they can immigrate less
07:01 DaemonFC; At least one long vacation per year.
07:01 DaemonFC; Maybe two.
07:02 schestowitz; it's even worse than you put it,
07:02 schestowitz; but it's for another channel
07:02 schestowitz; let's focus on science and tech here
07:02 DaemonFC; You know, I mean, we did things like in May before it got too hot we'd hit Disney World and then by August we were hitting up the cave tours and swimming in a river in Arkansas and staying at a condo there.
07:02 DaemonFC; Same year, two vacations, one of them hellaciously expensive (Disney, even then!).
07:02 TR News; No Pseudonymity or Sealing in College Student's Race Discrimination Lawsuit https://reason.com/volokh/2023/07/15/no-pseudonymity-or-sealing-in-college-students-race-discrimination-lawsuit/
07:02 TR Bot; No Pseudonymity or Sealing in College Student's Race Discrimination Lawsuit
07:03 DaemonFC; I think Grindr is even more pernicious than Facebook because Grindr taps into something primal that people are wired to want.
07:04 TR News; Jean Carroll's Libel Lawsuit Against Donald Trump for His 2019 Statements Can Go Forward https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/29/jean-carrolls-libel-lawsuit-against-donald-trump-for-his-2019-statements-can-go-forward/
07:04 elusive_woman; they have access to everyones dick pics, facebook dont
07:04 TR Bot; Jean Carroll's Libel Lawsuit Against Donald Trump for His 2019 Statements Can Go Forward
07:04 TR News; Dyson exploitation libel claim versus C4 News heard at Court of Appeal https://pressgazette.co.uk/media_law/dyson-channel-4-libel-appeal/
07:04 TR Bot; Dysons libel claim against Channel 4 comes to Court of Appeal
07:05 TR News; 10th Cir. Narrowly Reads "Injury Litigated Against Would Be Incurred" Basis for Pseudonymous Litigation https://reason.com/volokh/2023/07/05/10th-cir-narrowly-reads-injury-litigated-against-would-be-incurred-basis-for-pseudonymous-litigation/
07:05 TR Bot; 10th Cir. Narrowly Reads "Injury Litigated Against Would Be Incurred" Basis for Pseudonymous Litigation
07:06 TR News; View the Resource Usage of Your Docker Containers https://thenewstack.io/view-the-resource-usage-of-your-docker-containers/
07:06 TR Bot; View the Resource Usage of Your Docker Containers - The New Stack
07:07 TR News; Hong Kong man jailed for insulting China and Hong Kong flag https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/hong-kong-man-jailed-for-insulting-china-and-hong-kong-flag/
07:07 TR Bot; Hong Kong man jailed for 'insulting' China and Hong Kong flag - JURIST - News
07:07 TR News; Quantum Computing Qubit Entanglement Record Broken in CHINA https://www.tomshardware.com/news/quantum-computing-simultaneous-qubit-entanglement-record-broken-at-51
07:07 TR Bot; Quantum Computing Qubit Entanglement Record Broken at 51 | Tom's Hardware
07:08 starstreak; https://birdsarentreal.com/
07:08 TR Bot; Birds Arent Real Birds Aren't Real
07:08 TR News; Chinese state media is pumping out bad news about US, Britain https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-bad-news-07112023142511.html
07:08 TR Bot; Chinese state media is pumping out bad news about US, Britain Radio Free Asia
07:09 schestowitz; <DaemonFC> I think Grindr is even more pernicious than Facebook because Grindr taps into something primal that people are wired to want.
07:09 schestowitz; Grindr is a balckmail repository
07:09 schestowitz; or trove
07:09 schestowitz; they can recruit there
07:09 schestowitz; or do strings
07:09 schestowitz; *stings
07:10 mjg59_; Techrights is a blackmail repository, based on people saying stupid shit here
07:11 DaemonFC; Well, their stings would never work on me because I wasn't looking for that anyway.
07:11 DaemonFC; But it does disgust me in a sense because the police only focus there.
07:11 DaemonFC; They don't try to catch straight pedophiles.
07:12 DaemonFC; If they were baiting traps somewhere else too that would at least mean they were looking for criminals in general.
07:12 starstreak; techrights is the infowars of the free software world
07:12 starstreak; mixing fact and fiction to scare people
07:14 DaemonFC; mjg59_Techrights is a blackmail repository, based on people saying stupid shit here
07:14 DaemonFC; Stupid shit like what?
07:14 DaemonFC; Pigs looking to arrest gay men and nobody else?
07:14 DaemonFC; Typical pig shit.
07:14 DaemonFC; Oink oink.
07:15 DaemonFC; Smells like bacon.
07:15 DaemonFC; :)
07:15 elusive_woman; you haven't watched to catch a predator?
07:15 elusive_woman; or hansen vs predator?
07:15 DaemonFC; That was the part they let you see.
07:15 elusive_woman; they use straight apps too
07:16 DaemonFC; I have not seen anything of the sort.
07:17 TR News; What did NSA do in Salt Lake City? https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/asian-games-facial-recognition-07142023131026.html
07:17 TR Bot; Booking a hotel room for the Asian Games? Local police will be watching you Radio Free Asia
07:19 mjg59_; Hey, Roy managed to get fired based on stuff he said here
07:19 TR News; Doxxing campaign targeting Hong Kong protesters had China links: report https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/hk-protesters-doxxing-07142023130019.html
07:19 TR Bot; Doxxing campaign targeting Hong Kong protesters had China links: report Radio Free Asia
07:19 DaemonFC; I think Dr Pervert helped that along.
07:19 schestowitz; help what?
07:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
07:20 TR News; China Doesnt Want to Compete. It Wants to Win. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/07/-us-china-economic-agenda-competition/674694/
07:20 DaemonFC; Didn't you say he doxed you and contacted your boss?
07:20 TR Bot; China Doesnt Want to Compete. It Wants to Win. - The Atlantic
07:20 schestowitz; yes, rianne reckons he did it
07:20 mjg59_; Dude you think I triggered an inept web IRC client DoS
07:20 schestowitz; Techrights will cover this in the future
07:20 schestowitz; the person the doxing was done to escaped the company after that
07:20 schestowitz; it backfired badly on him
07:21 mjg59_; I just think it's objectively funny that someone who spends his time writing blog posts about misrepresenting what people said on the internet got suspended because of what he said on the internet
07:21 mjg59_; Petard, hoist, etc
07:22 TR News; China launches its first open-source desktop operating system as it moves to cut use of US tech https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-launches-its-first-open-source-desktop-operating-system-as-it-moves-to-cut-use-of-us-tech
07:22 TR Bot; China launches its first open-source desktop operating system as it moves to cut use of US tech | The Straits Times
07:25 TR News; "The U.S. and China are engaged in a great-power struggle, and chips are part of the fight." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/14/briefing/semiconductors.html
07:25 TR Bot; The Semiconductor Struggle - The New York Times
07:27 TR News; No TWiK post this week https://pointieststick.com/2023/07/15/no-twik-post-this-week/
07:27 TR Bot; No TWiK post this week Adventures in Linux and KDE
07:43 starstreak; <mjg59_> Hey, Roy managed to get fired based on stuff he said here
07:43 starstreak; he did?
07:43 DaemonFC; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan's_Run_(film)
07:43 TR Bot; Logan's Run (film) - Wikipedia
07:43 DaemonFC; I have to admit that was one of my favorites as a child.
07:47 DaemonFC; Yes, it wasn't lost on me at all that the city they lived in resembled a shopping mall, even when I was a kid.
07:47 DaemonFC; Shopping malls were fun places, in their time.
07:47 DaemonFC; Now they're just sad to even look at, even if they still exist.
07:47 mjg59_; starstreak: Well, suspended, and then he resigned while refusing to follow the disciplinary procedures, as I understand it
07:48 DaemonFC; They waste a lot of space that should be a public park, or housing for people.
07:48 mjg59_; starstreak: http://techrights.org/2023/01/06/sirius-egoistic-or-egotistic-stalker/
07:48 TR Bot; When the Employer Becomes an Egoistic Stalker | Techrights
07:48 TR News; This neglects to point out that SiliconANGLE takes bribes from Red Hat to spam and to lie https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/07/15/0138208/red-hats-decision-prompts-outrage-and-sympathy-called-necessary-and-embarrassing
07:48 TR Bot; Red Hat's Decision Prompts Outrage and Sympathy, Called 'Necessary' and 'Embarrassing' - Slashdot
07:48 DaemonFC; The idea of a mall came and went. Like, we don't actually need them anymore due to online shopping. They were undercut on price by Walmart for stuff you need.
07:49 starstreak; lol
07:49 starstreak; "Gates Foundation had passed money to the CEO under an NDA"
07:49 DaemonFC; There was no online shopping, no walmart. So like, you earned money at the factory along with everyone else. Then blew it at the mall.
07:49 starstreak; he rips on me for applying to microsoft
07:49 DaemonFC; But that was okay because there was more money and there would be more money.
07:49 DaemonFC; Until the globalists came and killed America.
07:50 DaemonFC; I think that Globalism is a huge problem.
07:50 starstreak; he has a website detailing all their crimes too
07:50 DaemonFC; I don't think we owe our prosperity to anyone else, much less that we should GIVE it away.
07:50 DaemonFC; I want to quote Rod Blagojevich here, former Governor of Illinois.
07:50 DaemonFC; He was trying to take a bribe for a Senate seat.
07:51 DaemonFC; But I want to quote him on what I think of Globalism and "Free Trade".
07:51 DaemonFC; I have this thing, and it's fuckin' golden, and I'm not givin' it up for fuckin' nothin'!
07:51 mjg59_; The only reason a client would insist on an NDA is because it's a conspiracy against Roy
07:51 DaemonFC; And that should have been our answer to Globalists.
07:51 DaemonFC; And Neoliberalism.
07:52 DaemonFC; I am very much a "Protectionist" and I have no shame in admitting it.
07:52 DaemonFC; The people who use it as an insult are the ones that gutted this country.
07:53 DaemonFC; And I generally do not support an interventionist foreign policy or a huge welfare state.
07:53 DaemonFC; Nor do I think government should be in the business of picking winners and losers in banking and the corporate sector.
07:54 DaemonFC; Every time we've "gone there" as far as war, loosening trade policy, or bailouts, the result has been a disaster for the American people. We subsidize crooks, idle people, and foreigners who hate us.
07:54 starstreak; lol
07:54 starstreak; the email correspondence is hilarious
07:54 starstreak; "can you please get on zoom" "no! ITS PROPRIETARY"
07:54 DaemonFC; The Central Bank should be nationalized.
07:55 DaemonFC; I don't think that the Free Banking Era was good, but I also think the Fed is a disaster for the economy and the product of flagrant corruption.
07:55 mjg59_; starstreak: Well, it's a defense?
07:56 DaemonFC; I am against the surveillance state.
07:56 DaemonFC; So, it's sort of ridiculous to try to say I liked Trump or that I might have voted for him.
07:56 DaemonFC; What did he do? Update NAFTA a little bit?
07:56 starstreak; If you do not join us on the call by 17:30 we will take this as a failure to comply with a properly issued management instruction, we will close the call and we will investigate this incident as a potential disciplinary issue too.
07:56 starstreak; lol
07:57 starstreak; they even tried calling him on the phone and he didnt answer
07:57 DaemonFC; The phone as in the actual phone?
07:57 DaemonFC; He uses that all the time.
07:58 DaemonFC; "This is the United States calling.....they hung up!"
07:58 TR News; (NEW): Exploring openKylin: China's 1st Independent Open-Source Linux OS (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/08/Exploring_openKylin_China_s_1st_Independent_Open_Source_Linux_O.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/08/Exploring_openKylin_China_s_1st_Independent_Open_Source_Linux_O.gmi
07:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Exploring openKylin: China's 1st Independent Open-Source Linux OS (UPDATED)
07:58 TR News; (NEW): Akademy 2023 Focus http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Akademy_2023_Focus.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Akademy_2023_Focus.gmi
07:58 TR Bot; Tux Machines Akademy 2023 Focus
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:59 DaemonFC; Everyone wants to brand Libertarianism as a right wing thing. It's easy to dismiss that way.
07:59 DaemonFC; People who want the government to leave people alone are all fascists. Because fascists are famous for leaving other people alone and letting them chart a course for their own lives.
08:00 DaemonFC; Why the first thing they do when they take over is say you can go to the death camps or not go to the death camps, that's entirely a you thing.
08:00 DaemonFC; Like Hitler did.
08:01 TR News; Security updates for Monday https://lwn.net/Articles/938375/
08:01 TR Bot; updates for Monday [LWN.net]
08:01 DaemonFC; That's not a Holocaust joke mind you, it's pointing something out here.
08:01 DaemonFC; That Libertarianism is pretty much the least extreme thing you can be.
08:02 TR News; City of Odessa dealing with data breach https://www.cbs7.com/2023/07/17/city-odessa-dealing-with-data-breach/
08:02 TR Bot; City of Odessa dealing with data breach
08:02 DaemonFC; The United States Constitution doesn't obligate the government to provide for the General Welfare of the public.
08:02 DaemonFC; It just says they can if they want to, and they don't.
08:02 DaemonFC; So they're in perfect compliance.
08:02 TR News; Two California plastic surgery practices suffer cyberattacks and embarrassing patient data leaks https://www.databreaches.net/two-california-plastic-surgery-practices-suffer-cyberattacks-and-embarrassing-patient-data-leaks/
08:02 TR Bot; Two California plastic surgery practices suffer cyberattacks and embarrassing patient data leaks
08:03 TR News; No Need to Hack When Its Leaking, Monday edition: Dating App That Claims 50 Million Users Suffered a Data Breach https://www.vpnmentor.com/news/report-419dating-breach/
08:03 TR Bot; Dating App That Claims 50 Million Users Suffered a Data Breach
08:04 TR News; ONS numbers due again in 1.5 hours regarding mortality
08:04 starstreak; mjg59_, maybe he was talking trash in irc during work hours
08:04 DaemonFC; elusive_woman: So like, the first thing I've noticed about Predator is that the "decoys" (which are all over 18) aren't even all that hot, much less anything you'd risk prison time over.
08:04 starstreak; i was always wondering how Roy could post stuff 24/7
08:05 DaemonFC; So like, why do they go in?
08:05 DaemonFC; I'd say it's also fairly obvious, even from outside the door, that 90% of them are obviously well over 18 and in their 20s or so.
08:05 DaemonFC; It's almost laughably bad what kind of a "trap" was set and how many persisted.
08:06 starstreak; "Under the European Convention on Human Rights Article 6 (England is in the European Court of Human Rights) I am entitled to have a representative and access an objective tribunal. You will hear from my lawyer soon."
08:06 starstreak; LOL
08:07 TR News; China executes kindergarten teacher for poisoning pre-schoolers, killing one child https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/china-executes-kindergarten-teacher-for-poisoning-pre-schoolers
08:07 TR Bot; China executes kindergarten teacher for poisoning pre-schoolers, killing one child | The Straits Times
08:07 DaemonFC; "He sent webcam photos of his genitals, told her he could teach a 14 year old girl how to masturbate, all this from a man who admits online that he's seen To Catch a Predator."
08:07 DaemonFC; Well, in his defense, DallasBadBoy did get his window stickers from the city for his truck so he can't be all bad.
08:09 elusive_woman; lol
08:09 elusive_woman; there was one dude who had the screen name: can_I_rape_you_anally
08:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, now say it in the Chris Haaaaaaaaaansoooooon voice.
08:09 DaemonFC; :)
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08:12 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7qfhe9bp8mfnk.irc) has joined #techrights
08:12 TR News; "Goal seems to be to avoid tainting purity of communist monuments with commercialism" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tiananmen-square-ads-07122023163851.html
08:12 TR Bot; Beijing mulls ban on commercial ads on public buses in Tiananmen Square Radio Free Asia
08:13 TR News; An Act of War: Inside Americas Silicon Blockade Against China https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/12/magazine/semiconductor-chips-us-china.html
08:13 TR Bot; An Act of War: Inside Americas Silicon Blockade Against China - The New York Times
08:13 immibis; why is nobody calling it OceanGateGate
08:14 starstreak; lmao
08:14 TR News; NBA star says he was dumped for China criticism https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/enes-kanter-congress-07112023135843.html
08:14 TR Bot; NBA star says he was dumped for China criticism Radio Free Asia
08:15 TR News; Hong Kong police question family of exiled activist Nathan Law https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/hk-nathan-lam-family-07112023130047.html
08:15 TR Bot; Hong Kong police question family of exiled activist Nathan Law Radio Free Asia
08:15 starstreak; i was thinking the company was prepared for failure by calling their company OceanGate
08:16 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/
08:16 TR Bot; The Gates Press (GatesGate) Part VI: Sunsetting for Now | Techrights
08:16 starstreak; i feel bad for the young man that died but not for the billionaires
08:16 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/06/23/urgency-calls/
08:16 TR Bot; The Gates Press (GatesGate) Part V: Putting the Series on Hold to Focus on More Urgent Matters | Techrights
08:16 mjg59_; starstreak: He worked random shifts, so who knows
08:17 TR News; "It said the contentious map does not depict Beijing's nine-dash line claim over the South China Sea." https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/philippines-greenlights-barbie-film-screening-to-blur-dashes-in-south-china-sea-map
08:17 TR Bot; Philippines green-lights Barbie film screening, to blur dashes in South China Sea map | The Straits Times
08:18 DaemonFC; "They ranged in age from 23" Well, the law's the law I suppose. "to 63" Blagghhhhh!
08:19 DaemonFC; Some people would really hate it if I was a judge.
08:19 DaemonFC; I'd get a 63 year old pedo in my courtroom and I'd berate them in open court.
08:19 DaemonFC; "You are 63 years old!"
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 immibis; DaemonFC: are you saying you think pedophiles only go for children who are hot...?
08:20 DaemonFC; "What in the HELL were you doing trying to show up at a 15 year old's house?"
08:20 DaemonFC; And then they'd get punished very severely.
08:20 DaemonFC; immibisDaemonFC: are you saying you think pedophiles only go for children who are hot...?
08:20 DaemonFC; I don't really know how they think, thank god.
08:21 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Security_Leftovers.gmi
08:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
08:21 TR News; (NEW): GNU forked Libreboot? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/GNU_forked_Libreboot.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/GNU_forked_Libreboot.gmi
08:21 TR Bot; Tux Machines GNU forked Libreboot?
08:21 DaemonFC; Maybe I'm overthinking this but like, you don't commit a felony to get $20 out of the cash register at 7/11.
08:21 DaemonFC; You go rob a bank.
08:22 schestowitz; banks are harder
08:23 TR News; Nearly one fourth of Chinas young people report mental health problems https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/youth-mental-health-07102023134606.html
08:23 TR Bot; Nearly one fourth of Chinas young people report mental health problems Radio Free Asia
08:24 TR News; Looming U.S. Investment Restrictions on China Threaten Diplomatic Outreach https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/13/us/politics/us-china-investment-restrictions.html
08:24 TR Bot; Looming U.S. Investment Restrictions on China Threaten Diplomatic Outreach - The New York Times
08:25 TR News; Why Chinas Young People Are Not Getting Married https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/10/world/asia/china-marriage-rate.html
08:25 TR Bot; Why Chinas Young People Are Not Getting Married - The New York Times
08:27 starstreak; mjg59_, well i had the theory that Roy was a team of people based on the frequency of posting and the idea that one has to work sometime
08:27 immibis; foolish criminals rob banks. smart criminals found banks.
08:27 immibis; (create them)
08:28 DaemonFC; But you get the point.
08:28 DaemonFC; If you're going to break the law, like really determined to do it.
08:28 DaemonFC; Steal a Mercedes, not a Chevy.
08:28 DaemonFC; But you shouldn't steal a car.
08:29 DaemonFC; There was an episode of Breaking Bad where Walt says "I am breaking the law here! This is not enough money!"
08:29 mjg59_; starstreak: Oh given that posting frequency didn't increase much after he stopped working I think he was just never working much to begin with
08:30 DaemonFC; mjg59_: I hope you're taking a lot of money out of Aurora so it fails quicker.
08:30 DaemonFC; Did they take away your employee cafeteria yet?
08:32 starstreak; and because he posts his irc logs online, they have plenty of evidence of misconduct
08:32 starstreak; timestamps
08:32 TR News; "Its super easy. Just tag us in a photo, video, or text post sharing what youve been up to with Raspberry Pi recently." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/lets-all-celebrate-magpimonday/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
08:32 starstreak; "oh interesting, he was on the clock when he slandered X company"
08:32 TR Bot; Let's all celebrate #MagPiMonday - Raspberry Pi
08:32 DaemonFC; The company is failing anyway.
08:32 TR News; "Create your first or your next IoT project with the new Arduino Nano ESP32." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/07/17/introducing-the-nano-esp32-thats-iot/ | Source: Arduino
08:32 TR Bot; Introducing the Nano ESP32: THATS I(o)T! | Arduino Blog
08:32 DaemonFC; They stole the employee pensions on the way out too.
08:33 DaemonFC; So I mean it's not like it would have ended much differently had Matt GULAG (a creep) not contacted his crooked boss that was stealing the pensions.
08:33 schestowitz; i was the one uncovering those scandals
08:33 schestowitz; and informing the victims
08:34 schestowitz; starstreak: go work for Microsoft
08:34 schestowitz; or never mind
08:34 schestowitz; seems you already do
08:34 schestowitz; for free
08:34 schestowitz; DaemonFC: a colleague is going to contact pension ombuds
08:35 schestowitz; to hold accountable not only Sirius
08:35 starstreak; lol this has nothing to do with microsoft
08:35 schestowitz; this series will go on till netx year at least
08:35 schestowitz; we never finished the github series either
08:35 schestowitz; expect a third round of github layoffs soon
08:35 schestowitz; github is collapsing
08:35 schestowitz; as a business it never succeeded
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08:35 schestowitz; but the business model of Microsoft is not working either
08:35 schestowitz; lots of cuts made
08:36 TR News; "a rival connected e-bike company has created an app that will purportedly unlock the VanMoof bikes" https://staceyoniot.com/plan-for-death-at-the-start-of-building-your-connected-device/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
08:36 TR Bot; Plan for death at the start of building your connected device - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
08:36 TR News; "I've not been very communicative about my week during the Old Computer Challenge v3, the reason is that I failed it." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-07-17-old-computer-challenge-v3-part2.html | Source: Data Swamp
08:36 TR Bot; Solene'% : Old Computer Challenge v3: postmortem
08:36 mjg59_; Yeah where's the tech topic here
08:37 TR News; "As well as being the co-founder of the Arduino project" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/massimo-banzi-pi-cast | Source: Tom's Hardware
08:37 TR Bot; Arduino Co-Founder Will Take Your Questions Live on the Pi Cast | Tom's Hardware
08:37 TR News; "These days, GENIUS NY is considered the largest drone and robotics accelerator program in the world." https://www.thedronegirl.com/2023/07/17/murzilli-consulting-genius-ny-drone/ | Source: The Drone Girl
08:37 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thedronegirl.com/2023/07/17/murzilli-consulting-genius-ny-drone/ )
08:37 starstreak; microsofts stock is actually going up, so cuts to staff is likely just a capitalist plot to profit more
08:38 schestowitz; finctional values
08:38 TR News; Open Access https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2023/07/17/guest-post-peer-review-week-2023-to-focus-on-peer-review-and-the-future-of-publishing/ |
08:38 TR Bot; Guest Post - Peer Review Week 2023 to Focus on Peer Review and the Future of Publishing - The Scholarly Kitchen
08:39 TR News; "In data analysis and programming, its common to encounter situations where you need to identify duplicate values within a dataset" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/07/finding-duplicate-values-in-a-data-frame-in-r-a-guide-using-base-r-and-dplyr/ | Source: Rlang
08:39 TR Bot; Duplicate Values in a Data Frame in R: A Guide Using Base R and dplyr | R-bloggers
08:39 starstreak; the stock market is fictional?
08:40 starstreak; thats no different than trump claiming "fake news"
08:41 mjg59_; Fictional values in the sense that they're created out of a sense of belief rather than anything absolute, just as all capitalism is
08:41 mjg59_; Microsoft is, sadly, doing ok
08:41 schestowitz; lots of fake news does exist
08:41 schestowitz; this predates trump
08:42 schestowitz; the term fake news became popular around 2014
08:42 schestowitz; china used it
08:42 schestowitz; to censor news
08:42 schestowitz; then it was used against trump
08:42 schestowitz; "d" politciians said trump won owing to "fake news"
08:42 schestowitz; so it's not trump coming up with this label
08:42 schestowitz; it was first used by his opponents
08:42 starstreak; now hes defending trump lol
08:42 schestowitz; accusing various things of being "FAKE NEWS"
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08:42 mjg59_; Yeah he's actually a piece of shit
08:42 schestowitz; starstreak: now your reading compehension fails again
08:43 mjg59_; But he can't see anything I say
08:43 mjg59_; Pppffffthftpohdrdthbgthhh
08:44 schestowitz; I criticised the term "fake news" before Trump even ran for pres
08:44 schestowitz; when china used the term a lot
08:44 schestowitz; then democrats started adopting this label from china
08:44 schestowitz; the trump 'co-opted' it is an historical fact
08:44 schestowitz; documented here also in irc logs
08:45 starstreak; actually
08:45 starstreak; it was Craig Silverman
08:45 schestowitz; nazi germany used a similar term
08:45 starstreak; https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/politico50/craig-silverman/
08:45 TR Bot; 50: Craig Silverman
08:45 schestowitz; in the 1930s
08:45 schestowitz; "lying press"
08:46 schestowitz; but china was censoring left an d right
08:46 schestowitz; and assured people it was just removing "fakes"
08:46 schestowitz; around 2014
08:46 starstreak; Craig Silverman who worked for Buzzfeed noticed a lot of fake news websites supporting trump
08:46 schestowitz; Buzzfeed is bust
08:46 schestowitz; POLITICO is owned by a German oligarch
08:46 starstreak; https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo#.ujy0xGe3mk
08:47 schestowitz; those are telling only part of the story
08:47 TR Bot; How Teens In The Balkans Are Duping Trump Supporters With Fake News
08:47 schestowitz; there are many fake news sites
08:47 schestowitz; they make it sound like everything is about trump
08:47 schestowitz; china and russia have many such sites
08:48 starstreak; mjg59_, you're right, he is weirdly conservative
08:48 schestowitz; <techrights-news> Chinese state media is pumping out bad news about US, Britain https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-bad-news-07112023142511.html
08:48 TR Bot; Chinese state media is pumping out bad news about US, Britain Radio Free Asia
08:48 schestowitz; 2 hours ago
08:48 schestowitz; sadly, western media became almost the same
08:48 schestowitz; today's MSM is a lot like the Chinese state media
08:51 schestowitz; <starstreak> mjg59_, you're right, he is weirdly conservative
08:51 schestowitz; you realise you talk to transphobe mjg59_ , right?
08:52 TR News; "Her list explains a huge part of the Web, but was completely orthogonal to what I was thinking about teaching." https://computinged.wordpress.com/2023/07/17/what-humanities-scholars-want-students-to-know-about-the-internet-alternative-paths-for-alternative-endpoints/ | Source: CER
08:52 TR Bot; What Humanities Scholars Want Students To Know About the Internet: Alternative Paths for Alternative Endpoints | Computing Ed Research - Guzdial's Take
08:52 mjg59_; I said some things in the past that were absolutely wrong and I've done my best to improve since then
08:52 TR News; "They should ignore extra-curricular activities (that tend to bias against poorer students with less free time)." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/07/why-you-should-attend-the-university-of-luck/ | Source: Terence Eden
08:52 TR Bot; Why you should attend the University of Luck Terence Edens Blog
08:53 mjg59_; Roy apparently believes that people can literally never change?
08:53 TR News; "Im not gonna achieve anything from this experiment, Im just curious to see what happens if instead of eight hours straight" https://alirezahayati.com/2023/07/17/managed-and-controlled-sleep-an-experiment/ | Source: Ali Reza Hayati
08:53 TR Bot; Managed and controlled sleep: an experiment - Ali Reza Hayati
08:53 immibis; roy just hates everyone
08:54 immibis; starstreak: all stocks are going up, but the dollar is going down
08:54 schestowitz; labour participation rates too
08:54 mjg59_; In http://techrights.org/credibility-index/ Roy said Jono Bacon was 4/5 credible, which I don't think he'd say now
08:54 TR Bot; The Free Software Credibility Index | Techrights
08:55 schestowitz; so you know what that means to actual capital
08:55 starstreak; mjg59_, yeah people never change for him
08:55 schestowitz; rather than some numbers in a ticker
08:55 mjg59_; But I guess he's stuck with that now
08:55 starstreak; schestowitz, so what evidence do you have that microsoft and github are collapsing?
08:55 TR News; "For this month's newsletter, Im going to cover a range of things you can do to simplify your Teleport deployment" https://goteleport.com/blog/simplify-teleport/ | Source: Teleport
08:55 TR Bot; Simplify Teleport - July Newsletter
08:56 mjg59_; None
08:56 schestowitz; starstreak: where to even start?
08:56 schestowitz; choose one
08:56 mjg59_; They're doing absolute fine commercially
08:56 schestowitz; github is smaller
08:56 schestowitz; so easier to address that in isolation
08:56 mjg59_; Lots to complain about from a community perspective
08:56 TR News; "In the space of about one second, at the age of almost 23, I had glimpsed my future, my colleagues future, and the future of PC gaming" https://www.theverge.com/23796894/john-romero-id-software-commander-keen-autobiography | Source: The Verge
08:56 TR Bot; Excerpt: John Romeros autobiography Doom Guy on the birth of id Software - The Verge
08:56 TR News; "A world in which machines governed by artificial intelligence (AI) systematically replace human beings in most business" https://www.thenation.com/article/world/artificial-intelligence-us-military/ | Source: The Nation
08:56 TR Bot; The Future of AI Is War | The Nation
08:57 starstreak; well, layoffs don't mean they're suffering
08:57 schestowitz; so what does mean that?
08:57 schestowitz; people jumping from windows?
08:58 schestowitz; in flaming buildings?
08:58 TR News; "But a world in which the bots can understand and speak my name, and yours, is also an eerie one." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/07/ai-voice-assistants-name-pronunciation/674731/ | Source: The Atlantic
08:58 TR Bot; AI Can Finally Say My Name Correctly - The Atlantic
08:58 starstreak; its called capitalist profit
08:58 starstreak; less workers, more profit
08:58 TR News; Windows TCO. "In addition to personal data, the documents are claimed to contain financial information such as client documentation" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/barts-health-nhs-trust-faces-ransomware-threats-russian-organisation-blackcat-1717697 | Source: International Business Times
08:58 TR Bot; Barts Health NHS Trust faces ransomware threats from Russian organisation BlackCat
08:59 schestowitz; over-hiring is about inflation perceived worth
08:59 schestowitz; companies don't fire to be "worth" more
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
08:59 schestowitz; they fire because those units are failing
08:59 schestowitz; and they will soon need to pay 3 billion dollars
08:59 schestowitz; due to activision
08:59 schestowitz; even if this falls through
09:00 starstreak; the entire tech industry is laying people off
09:00 TR News; "But why is there such hectic push to acquire either personal identities" https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2023/07/17/374/ | Source: Systemd Free
09:00 TR Bot; Anonymity and corporate FOSS | systemd-free linux community
09:00 starstreak; the 1% want their money
09:00 schestowitz; <starstreak> the entire tech industry is laying people off
09:00 starstreak; they dont need us anymore
09:00 schestowitz; yes, and?
09:01 DaemonFC; mjg59_Microsoft is, sadly, doing ok
09:01 DaemonFC; You've made a lot of money together.
09:01 DaemonFC; Why would you say it's sad that they're "doing okay" (which they obviously don't seem to be....)
09:02 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 17, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/irc-log-170723/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/irc-log-170723/
09:03 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Monday, July 17, 2023 | Techrights
09:03 mjg59_; How much money do you think I've got out of Microsoft, and how?
09:03 mjg59_; I have literally no financial investment in Microsoft's success
09:03 DaemonFC; You did a lot of work promoting their nonsense when they should have been sued.
09:03 DaemonFC; Implementing it.
09:03 DaemonFC; I mean, maybe if they are doing okay they can pay you to come back and attack Free Software again.
09:04 DaemonFC; Through another proxy, perhaps.
09:04 DaemonFC; So I find it odd that this would be "sad" for you.
09:04 mjg59_; Who can pay me?
09:04 TR News; "Following a CJEU ruling that declared Meta/Facebooks GDPR approach largely illegal, the Norwegian DPA (Datatilsynet)" https://noyb.eu/en/norway-temporary-ban-behavioral-ads-facebook-instagram | Source: NYOB
09:04 TR Bot; Norway temporary ban behavioral ads Facebook Instagram
09:05 starstreak; mjg59_, they "can't afford 17,000" workers but they can pay random people on the internet to spread propaganda
09:05 TR News; "Facebook and Instagram owner Meta Platforms will be fined one million crowns ($100,000) per day over privacy breaches unless it takes remedial action" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/meta-fined-by-norway-regulator-datatilsynet-over-data-privacy-breaches/articleshow/101823137.cms | Source: India Times
09:05 TR Bot; meta norway regulator fine: Meta fined by Norway regulator Datatilsynet over data privacy breaches - The Economic Times
09:06 DaemonFC; It's not much different than the US government.
09:06 DaemonFC; They cut off food stamps from the elderly but pay the media and tech companies to spy on and lie to people.
09:06 DaemonFC; Things like that.
09:06 DaemonFC; It's all about what you prioritize. Not losing control of the narrative.
09:07 DaemonFC; mjg59_ works in a dirty industry in a dirty sort of job.
09:07 DaemonFC; Security is a euphemism for "quite the opposite".
09:07 schestowitz; RMS said that in his talk
09:07 schestowitz; this summer
09:07 schestowitz; he argued security no longer means actual security
09:07 starstreak; mjg59_, oh wait, you said some transphobic stuff 20 years ago so i shouldn't talk to you
09:07 schestowitz; but did not go intto all the details
09:08 DaemonFC; It means DRM and backdoors when you talk about it in the mjg59_ situation.
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09:11 schestowitz; he is not a security person
09:11 mjg59_; RMS argued in favour of not having passwords
09:11 schestowitz; he is imposter , charalatan and psychopath
09:12 mjg59_; RMS is not a security person
09:12 schestowitz; in aa lot of today's industyr that can work
09:12 schestowitz; you can even be a fraud and control the White House, Twitter etc.
09:12 mjg59_; I make Roy so angry he can't type
09:12 starstreak; ;p;
09:12 starstreak; lol
09:12 starstreak; yeah RMS was against passwords
09:12 TR News; "Junnila is not the only controversial politician in his party. Many other Finns Party MPs have been convicted of ethnic agitation." https://jacobin.com/2023/07/finland-finns-party-national-coaliton-far-right-neoliberalism/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
09:12 TR Bot; Finlands Neoliberal and Far-Right Alliance Is a Sign of Things to Come in Europe
09:13 TR News; "Michigan elections must remain free, fair, and accountable. HB4210 will not help." https://www.bridgemi.com/guest-commentary/opinion-case-against-allowing-internet-voting-michigan | Source: Bridge Michigan
09:13 TR Bot; Opinion | The case against allowing internet voting in Michigan | Bridge Michigan
09:14 schestowitz; rms was a very proficient programmer
09:14 schestowitz; and passwords have their issues
09:14 schestowitz; they have merits in some cases
09:14 schestowitz; the reason MIT introduced them was seen as unjust
09:14 schestowitz; it was not so much about security
09:14 schestowitz; more like resource management
09:15 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170723.html#tJul%2017%2001:28:23
09:15 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, July 17, 2023
09:15 schestowitz; i will cover it in a video this week
09:16 TR News; "A social model dependent on importing hundreds of thousands of people a year is not sustainable" https://www.newstatesman.com/quickfire/2023/07/labour-scrap-two-child-benefit-cap-future-luxury | Source: New Statesman
09:16 TR Bot; The two-child benefit cap makes the future a luxury - New Statesman
09:16 mjg59_; Microsoft shouldn't sign bullshit drivers, so it's a good thing you can configure secure boot so your computer refuses to boot Windows
09:16 mjg59_; BIOS didn't let you do that
09:16 TR News; "Great apes and other primates too have been shown to understand the correspondence between a 2D digital image and a real thing in the world, so they can understand and make that cognitive link." https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2023/07/07/humans-arent-the-only-ones-fixated-on-phones-why-the-toronto-zoo-is-cutting-back-on-gorilla-screen-time.html | Source: The Toronto Star
09:16 TR Bot; Why the Toronto Zoo wants you to stop showing gorillas your phone | The Star
09:17 starstreak; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agqkiNYM9Zw
09:17 TR Bot; https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=agqkiNYM9Zw
09:17 TR Bot; inv.makerlab.tech | Stallman tried to save us from passwords! - Invidious
09:18 immibis; no passwords means I can log in as schestowitz
09:18 TR News; "Up for debate over the next months will be the limits for polices use of surveillance technology" https://edri.org/our-work/all-eyes-on-eu-will-europes-ai-legislation-protect-peoples-rights/ | Source: EDRI
09:18 TR Bot; All eyes on EU: Will Europes AI legislation protect peoples rights? - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
09:19 immibis; what's the alternative to importing people? making them at home and worsening the overpopulation crisis
09:19 starstreak; the government should be able to access your computer without being stopped by something like a password
09:19 immibis; ^
09:19 immibis; also why is it framed as "the government importing people" and not "people choosing to move"
09:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:20 starstreak; immibis, why can't I read your e-mail you fascist?
09:21 immibis; you can in schestowitz's dystopia
09:21 mjg59_; My laptop refuses to boot Windows so I don't need to care about Windows-based attack vectors
09:21 mjg59_; Roy insists on having a laptop that can't do that
09:22 TR News; "I have written about The Minimum Wage Debate many times." https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/experience/nobody-wants-to-work/ |
09:22 TR Bot; Myth - Nobody Wants to Work Logikal Blog
09:22 starstreak; mjg59_, does it also refuse to boot live usbs the police use?
09:22 mjg59_; It does!
09:22 mjg59_; Well, depending on what the bootloader is there
09:22 TR News; Censorship https://anfenglishmobile.com/human-rights/thousands-of-activists-arrested-across-iran-since-the-beginning-of-the-year-68341 | Source: ANF News
09:22 TR Bot; ANF | Thousands of activists arrested across Iran since the beginning of the year
09:22 mjg59_; But for common cases they won't be able to decrypt the drive
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09:23 starstreak; mjg59_, encrypted hard drive? france says you're a criminal!
09:24 TR News; "SLAPPs dont usually win in court, but thats not what theyre intended to do." https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/slapp-legal-intimidation-activists/ | Source: The Nation
09:24 TR Bot; Lawsuits Have Become the Weapon of Choice Against Activists | The Nation
09:24 TR News; "Overseeing the birth of YAF were two defenders of McCarthyism and the stamping out of free speech: Buckley himself and his protg" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/young-americans-freedom/ | Source: The Nation
09:24 TR Bot; The Campus Rights Long War on Free Speech | The Nation
09:24 immibis; starstreak: did they?
09:24 immibis; i thought they said they were allowed to hack it if they could
09:25 mjg59_; starstreak: Not the only reason France would say that!
09:25 schestowitz; france misunderstands its issue
09:25 schestowitz; it's a societal one
09:25 DaemonFC; mjg59_Microsoft shouldn't sign bullshit drivers, so it's a good thing you can configure secure boot so your computer refuses to boot Windows
09:25 schestowitz; not a lack of lack doors
09:25 DaemonFC; How do you do that on a Lenovo ThinkBook?
09:26 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
09:26 TR Bot; High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights
09:26 immibis; schestowitz: france is on the other side. macron is the dictator trying to control everyone's thoughts. Ironically some idiots were saying this exact thing two years ago, but for completely nonsensical reasons
09:26 starstreak; immibis, https://www.laquadrature.net/2023/06/05/affaire-du-8-decembre-le-chiffrement-des-communications-assimile-a-un-comportement-terroriste/
09:26 TR Bot; Affaire du 8 dcembre : le chiffrement des communications assimil un comportement terroriste La Quadrature du Net
09:27 starstreak; lutilisation dapplications comme Signal, WhatsApp, Wire, Silence ou ProtonMail pour chiffrer ses communications ;
09:27 starstreak; le recours des outils permettant de protger sa vie prive sur Internet comme un VPN, Tor ou Tails ;
09:28 schestowitz; China handles the same problem France has with "re-education camps"
09:28 schestowitz; not that I condone it
09:28 starstreak; so using Signal, WhatsApp, Wire, Silence, ProtonMail, VPN, Tor or Tails makes you a terrorist
09:28 mjg59_; http://techrights.org/credibility-index/ - Swapnil gets 5/5
09:28 TR Bot; The Free Software Credibility Index | Techrights
09:30 TR News; "Iran is once again deploying police officers on the streets to enforce its conservative dress code for women" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/world/middleeast/iran-women-protests-hijab.html | Source: New York Times
09:30 TR Bot; Iran Steps Up Policing of Women Who Defy Strict Dress Code - The New York Times
09:31 TR News; "The Iranian regime has taken all sorts of measures to quell the protests." https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/irans-morality-police-returns-despite-protests-against-hijab-rules-1717720 | Source: International Business Times
09:31 TR Bot; Iran's morality police returns despite protests against hijab rules
09:31 TR News; "Several Iranian celebrities joined the protests, including prominent directors and actors from the country's celebrated film industry." https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20230717-iran-s-morality-police-resume-patrols-after-lull-following-death-of-mahsa-amini | Source: France24
09:31 TR Bot; Irans morality police resume patrols after lull following death of Mahsa Amini
09:31 starstreak; now we need 3 stories about iran suppressing women
09:32 schestowitz; Censorship
09:32 schestowitz; online, too
09:32 TR News; "recently there have been reports of its return by several journalists and social media users" https://www.dw.com/en/why-is-iran-reintroducing-its-morality-police/a-66257847 | Source: Deutsche Welle
09:32 TR Bot; is Iran bringing back its 'morality police'? DW 07/17/2023
09:33 TR News; "professor who studies remote work, told me that research and evidence are slowly catching up to the work-from-home debate." https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2023/07/remote-work-return-to-office-policies/674736/ | Source: The Atlantic
09:33 TR Bot; Why the Remote-Work Debate Stays So Heated - The Atlantic
09:33 TR News; ">Our two unions have not been on strike together since 1960." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/07/hollywoods-cruel-strategy/674730/ | Source: The Atlantic
09:33 TR Bot; Hollywood's Cruel Strategy - The Atlantic
09:35 TR News; "National Peoples Congress in October 2020. The amendment could not take effect in Hong Kong directly, but is put into effect by local legislation pursuant to the Hong Kong Basic Law." https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/hong-kong-man-jailed-for-insulting-china-and-hong-kong-flag/ | Source: JURIST
09:35 TR Bot; Hong Kong man jailed for 'insulting' China and Hong Kong flag - JURIST - News
09:35 TR News; Hong Kong security law Article 23 would target modern-day espionage and [Internet] loopholes, security chief says https://hongkongfp.com/2023/07/17/hong-kong-security-law-article-23-would-target-modern-day-espionage-and-internet-loopholes-security-chief-says/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
09:35 TR Bot; Hong Kong security law Article 23 would target 'modern-day espionage' and 'internet loopholes,' security chief says - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
09:36 TR News; "Mexican police were investigating without taking into account their journalistic backgrounds" https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/mexico-journalist-killed-amid-spate-of-anti-news-media-violence/ | Source: JURIST
09:36 TR Bot; Mexico journalist killed amid spate of anti-news media violence - JURIST - News
09:37 TR News; "Burkinab authorities should immediately reverse the suspension of French television news channel La Chane Info (LCI)" https://cpj.org/2023/07/burkina-faso-suspends-third-french-media-outlet-in-under-8-months/ | Source: CPJ
09:37 TR Bot; Burkina Faso suspends third French media outlet in under 8 months - Committee to Protect Journalists
09:38 mjg59_; DaemonFC: You switch to custom mode, you boot Linux, you enroll your chosen keys
09:38 mjg59_; It's actually easier on Thinkpads than on most machines
09:39 TR News; "There is much at stake in this fight." https://jacobin.com/2023/07/postdoc-unionization-uaw-university-of-california-organizing/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
09:39 TR Bot; Unionize the Postdocs
09:41 TR News; "Arkaroola Wilderness Sanctuary comprises over 63,000 hectares of conservation land in the Flinders Ranges and Outback of South Australia." https://www.darksky.org/arkaroola-wilderness-sanctuary-becomes-south-australias-first-international-dark-sky-sanctuary/ | Source: IDA
09:41 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.darksky.org/arkaroola-wilderness-sanctuary-becomes-south-australias-first-international-dark-sky-sanctuary/ )
09:42 starstreak; mjg59_, sounds quite useful
09:42 TR News; "The actors concerns highlight a broader anxiety among entertainers and people in many other creative professions." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/hollywood-actor-sag-aftra-ai-artificial-intelligence-strike-rcna94191 | Source: NBC
09:42 TR Bot; Actors vs. AI: Strike brings focus to emerging use of advanced tech
09:43 TR News; "Tracking Down a Suspect through Cell Phone Records" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/07/tracking-down-a-suspect-through-cell-phone-records.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
09:43 TR Bot; Down a Suspect through Cell Phone Records - Schneier on Security
09:44 TR News; Microsoft full of racists https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nDiyuA7 seems like the right company to work for if you are overtly racist http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
09:44 TR Bot; 'Tough to write this with tears in eyes...' - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
09:44 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
09:44 TR News; "Burner phones" https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/14/us/gilgo-beach-murders-suspect-arrest/index.html | Source: CNN
09:44 TR Bot; Burner phones. Pizza crust. DNA on burlap. A New York architect was charged with killing 3 women in Gilgo Beach serial killings cold case | CNN
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09:45 DaemonFC; mjg59_: You keep saying custom mode, but I haven't seen this in the firmware of any Lenovo laptop.
09:45 DaemonFC; Including this one.
09:45 TR News; Euro monopoly cops to probe Microsoft for slipping Teams into Office https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/17/eu_regulator_to_next_week/ | Source: The Register UK
09:45 TR Bot; EU to launch formal probe into Microsoft Teams and Office The Register
09:45 TR News; "The Competition Appeal Tribunal (CAT) ruled on Monday that the full hearing of Microsoft's appeal, which was due to begin on July 28, should be adjourned." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/microsoft-granted-two-month-pause-of-uk-appeal-over-activision-deal/articleshow/101837063.cms | Source: India Times
09:45 TR Bot; microsoft: Microsoft granted two-month pause of UK appeal over Activision deal - The Economic Times
09:47 TR News; "Rasenberger said the guild is trying to get these companies to settle without suing them." https://text.npr.org/1187523435 | Source: NPR
09:47 TR Bot; Thousands of authors urge AI companies to stop using work without permission
09:47 TR News; "The latest legal challenge, presented by lawyers for comedian Sarah Silverman and two additional authors" https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-could-run-out-text-train-chatbots-chatgpt-llm-2023-7 | Source: Business Insider
09:47 TR Bot; AI May Be 'Running Out of Text in the Universe' to Train Chatbots
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09:56 TR News; chatcontrol https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2023/07/17/chatcontrol-vad-hander-nu/
09:56 TR Bot; Chatcontrol: Vad hnder nu?
09:57 TR News; ludicrous openwashing https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/funding/open-source-developers-platform-tooljet-raises-funding-from-microsofts-m12-fund-github/articleshow/101822012.cms
09:57 TR Bot; tooljet funding: Open-source developers platform ToolJet raises funding from Microsoft's M12 Fund, GitHub - The Economic Times
09:59 TR News; "Open Source Hardware Companies Going Proprietary" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/07/15/2210234
09:59 TR Bot; Open Source Hardware Companies Going Proprietary - SoylentNews
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09:59 TR News; "The Perl and Raku Conference 2023" https://www.youtube.com/@YAPCNA/videos
09:59 TR Bot; Perl and Raku Conference - YouTube
10:00 mjg59_; DaemonFC: It's a spec term, not a firmware term, most platforms support it in one way or another
10:00 schestowitz; yr\ewtu.be is back !!
10:01 TR News; "Privacy policy status: Keeping them honest" https://soylentnews.org/~dalek/journal/15251
10:01 TR Bot; Journal of dalek (15489)
10:02 DaemonFC; The new casino is hiring. Lots of benefits, including AD&D insurance in case a gelatinous cube shows up and eats everyone.
10:03 DaemonFC; (Which would could as an accidental death and dismemberment since you don't intentionally run into these and they do dismember you with digestive acid.
10:03 DaemonFC; :)
10:04 DaemonFC; mjg59_DaemonFC: It's a spec term, not a firmware term, most platforms support it in one way or another
10:04 DaemonFC; So that the user won't find it?
10:05 TR News; "fheroes2 continues to improve the classic Heroes of Might and Magic II, with a new release available now with plenty of tweaks and improvements." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-game-engine-fheroes2-v106-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:05 TR Bot; of Might and Magic II game engine fheroes2 v1.0.6 out now | GamingOnLinux
10:06 TR News; "Linux Mint 21.2 is out now as the latest distribution built on top of Ubuntu, coming with various careful improvements to the base software included." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/linux-mint-212-is-out-now-with-app-upgrades-artwork-tweaks-login-improvements/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:06 TR Bot; Mint 21.2 is out now with app upgrades, artwork tweaks, login improvements | GamingOnLinux
10:06 TR News; "LEGO Bricktales is a sweet little building adventure from ClockStone and Thunderful Publishing, one with Native Linux support and it's Steam Deck Verified." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/lego-bricktales-gets-a-free-summer-content-update/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:06 TR Bot; Bricktales gets a free Summer content update | GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR News; "Ive been playing through a game called Dave the Diver released on 28 Jun, 2023 from developer MINTROCKET." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/dave-the-diver-is-a-big-beautiful-blue-gem/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR Bot; the Diver is a big beautiful blue gem | GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR News; "Capcom has now released Exoprimal, an online team-based shooter and thanks to Fanatical, I was able to take a look." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/07/exoprimal-from-capcom-tested-on-steam-deck-and-desktop-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
10:07 TR Bot; from Capcom tested on Steam Deck and desktop Linux | GamingOnLinux
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10:11 TR News; Programmer vs System Administrator https://www.tecmint.com/which-career-to-choose-programmer-vs-administrator/ | Source: TecMint
10:11 TR Bot; Which Career to Choose: Programmer Vs System Administrator
10:12 schestowitz; DaemonFC: the purpose of 'secure' boot, all along, was to shun GNU/Linux and BSD
10:13 schestowitz; That's why drpizza and other crooks of Microsoft helped shore that up
10:13 schestowitz; in the media
10:13 schestowitz; the Microsoft Mules CLub
10:13 schestowitz; now people realise it's not security
10:14 schestowitz; and won't treat its proponent as security people
10:14 DaemonFC; mjg59_ went to go use after shave after his very own cheese pizza.
10:14 DaemonFC; It didn't end well.
10:15 schestowitz; so he has DEBT and still pays lawyers in another continent to taunt a blogger who was right about this all along
10:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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10:37 starstreak; <schestowitz> DaemonFC: the purpose of 'secure' boot, all along, was to shun GNU/Linux and BSD
10:37 starstreak; except linux boots on secure boot systems
10:37 schestowitz; sometimes
10:37 schestowitz; it's designed for WINDOWS
10:37 schestowitz; this is antitrust violation
10:38 schestowitz; but child rapists and such worked to thwart that
10:38 schestowitz; for Bill and jeffrey
10:38 schestowitz; drpizza, ed baught
10:38 schestowitz; etc etc.
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10:42 mjg59_; We spent time working with Microsoft to ensure Linux would still be bootable
10:43 mjg59_; By 2012 it certainly wasn't designed as a Windows-only thing
10:45 starstreak; mjg59_, I can install Fedora without disabling secure boot
10:45 TR News; Links 18/07/2023: Akademy 2023 Videos and Debian Brainwashing | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/akademy-2023-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/akademy-2023-2/
10:45 mjg59_; Yeah I made that happen
10:45 TR Bot; Links 18/07/2023: Akademy 2023 Videos and Debian Brainwashing | Techrights
10:46 starstreak; but it doesnt fit Roy's narrative that "new thing bad"
10:46 mjg59_; It's over a decade old
10:46 starstreak; yeah but Roy uses a 486
10:47 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Android_Leftovers.gmi
10:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
10:47 TR News; (NEW): Games: Best Steam Deck Games, fheroes2, LEGO Bricktales, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Games_Best_Steam_Deck_Games_fheroes2_LEGO_Bricktales_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Games_Best_Steam_Deck_Games_fheroes2_LEGO_Bricktales_and_More.gmi
10:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Games: Best Steam Deck Games, fheroes2, LEGO Bricktales, and More
10:47 starstreak; "4GB of ram ought to be enough for anyone" -Roy, circa 2019
10:47 TR News; (NEW): Microsoft Monopolies and Abuses http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Microsoft_Monopolies_and_Abuses.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Microsoft_Monopolies_and_Abuses.gmi
10:47 TR Bot; Tux Machines Microsoft Monopolies and Abuses
10:48 schestowitz; most of my current machines have 2GB of RAM
10:48 schestowitz; that's more than enough
10:48 starstreak; lol
10:49 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
10:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
10:49 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, ESP32, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_ESP32_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_ESP32_and_More.gmi
10:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, ESP32, and More
10:49 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/today_s_leftovers.gmi
10:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
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10:50 TR News; How Much Space Is Saved By Using Tabs In Code? gemini://zelena.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-07-17_How_Much_Space_Saved_With_Tabs.gmi
10:50 starstreak; "2GB of ram out to be enough for anyone" -Roy, circa 2023
10:51 starstreak; "2GB of ram ought to be enough for anyone" -Roy, circa 2023
10:53 TR News; Old Computer Challenge 2023 retrospective gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20230717-occ2023-end.gmi
10:54 TR News; "It's been a while since I've done something like this. Here's a list of Android apps I use often on my Pixel 4 running GrapheneOS. It's not a complete list at all, instead I've tried to focus on unique apps that you're less likely to have heard of before. Hopefully you find something useful!" gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2023-07-17-whats-on-my-phone.gmi
10:56 starstreak; My core2duo laptop from 2007 had 4GB ram
10:57 schestowitz; i can buy that
10:57 schestowitz; i don't need it
10:57 TR News; "Maybe my faculties are failing, but Bubble seems too "link busy" to me. I stare at a page there, and it feels as though I have too much screen scanning to do to accomplish what I want. But I suppose practice would perfect that." gemini://dimension.sh/~textmonger/2023-07-17-04-sliding-under-the-door-before-ew0k-slams-it-temporarily-shut.gmi
10:58 TR News; SpellBinding: CELRTUV Wordo: SOLER gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-07-18.gmi
10:58 starstreak; Does Debian 2.2r7 support that on your Pentium 4?
10:59 schestowitz; 'virtue-signalling' to capitalism (read: oligarchs) by ridiculing people who don't constantly buy new things is uncool
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
11:00 schestowitz; what you tactlessly do it,
11:00 schestowitz; is like mocking people who don't but a "sports" car
11:00 starstreak; Using a 23 year old computer draws more power than a newer one, harming the environment
11:00 schestowitz; with speed they can neither use nor need
11:00 schestowitz; because they are practical
11:00 schestowitz; and you are being a "masturbating monkey" with some very old "sports" car
11:01 schestowitz; lookikg for affirmation
11:01 schestowitz; while otehrs get stuff sone
11:01 schestowitz; and don't go into debt or pay $5000 repeair bills
11:01 schestowitz; no, making a new compuiter takes lots of energy
11:02 schestowitz; same issue with EVs
11:03 TR News; "Gail Bradbrook, a co-founder of Extinction Rebellion" https://www.desmog.com/2023/07/17/extinction-rebellion-co-founder-goes-on-trial-for-breaking-window/ | Source: DeSmog
11:03 TR Bot; Rebellion Co-Founder Goes on Trial for Breaking Window - DeSmog
11:04 TR News; location data https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/massachusetts-prepares-to-ban-the-collection-and-abuse-of-cell-phone-location-data/ | Source: Techdirt
11:04 TR Bot; Prepares To Ban The Collection And Abuse Of Cell Phone Location Data | Techdirt
11:04 TR News; Twitter dead-man walking https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/elon-starts-bribing-his-biggest-fans-as-he-admits-the-company-is-still-burning-cash-despite-his-earlier-claims-to-the-contrary/ | Source: Techdirt
11:04 TR Bot; Starts Bribing His Biggest Fans As He Admits The Company Is Still Burning Cash (Despite His Earlier Claims To The Contrary) | Techdirt
11:04 starstreak; lol
11:04 TR News; "UK-based CDN company DataCamp has failed in its bid to have a $32.5 million lawsuit dismissed in the United States." https://torrentfreak.com/230717/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:04 TR Bot; Court: When IPTV Pirates Reap Profit, CDN Attracts Pirates & Profits * TorrentFreak
11:05 starstreak; a computer isn't a car
11:05 schestowitz; car analogy
11:05 TR News; "A Prague court has ordered Czech file-sharing and hosting site Ulo.to to pay $46,000 in damages to local movie distributor CineMart." https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-file-sharing-service-to-pay-46000-piracy-damages-for-user-upload-230717/ | Source: Torrent Freak
11:05 TR Bot; Orders File-Sharing Service to Pay $46,000 Piracy Damages For User Upload * TorrentFreak
11:05 starstreak; car analogies are for boomers
11:05 schestowitz; are you licensed to drive?
11:06 starstreak; no
11:06 schestowitz; "modern" cars are worse than "modern" computers
11:06 schestowitz; A computer into which you put your body
11:07 starstreak; modern computers are much more capable than old computers
11:07 TR News; The Pentagon's Stunning Negligence With Sensitive Email https://thedissenter.org/pentagon-cyber-negligence-sensitive-email-leaks/ | Source: The Dissenter
11:07 TR Bot; Pentagon's Stunning Negligence With Sensitive Email
11:08 TR News; "The acquittal sentence makes three important facts clear." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/ecuadors-judicial-system-must-reaffirm-ola-binis-innocence-face-prosecutors-office | Source: EFF
11:08 TR Bot; Ecuador's Judicial System Must Reaffirm Ola Bini's Innocence In the Face of Prosecutor's Office Appeal | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:09 TR News; "" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/eff-poker-tournament-def-con-31 | Source: EFF https://supporters.eff.org/civicrm/event/register?id=401&reset=1
11:09 TR Bot; EFF Poker Tournament at DEF CON 31 | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:09 TR Bot; Betting on Your Digital Rights: EFF Benefit Poker Tournament II | Electronic Frontier Foundation
11:12 TR News; "On Friday, July 14, Amy Goodman moderated a wide-ranging panel on human rights in Venice, Italy, to mark the 75th anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights." https://www.democracynow.org/2023/7/17/margot_wallstrom_climate_palestine | Source: Democracy Now
11:12 TR Bot; Top U.N. Human Rights Official & Fmr. Swedish FM on Palestine, Sudan & U.S. Cluster Bombs to Ukraine | Democracy Now!
11:13 TR News; trademark https://www.techdirt.com/2023/07/17/trader-joes-joins-list-of-companies-combatting-unions-via-trademark-bullying/ | Source: Techdirt
11:13 TR Bot; Joes Joins List Of Companies Combatting Unions Via Trademark Bullying | Techdirt
11:15 TR News; "The Importance of Independent Media and Critical Media Literacy Education" https://www.projectcensored.org/the-importance-of-independent-media-and-critical-media-literacy-education-in-a-democratic-society/ | Source: Project Censored
11:15 TR Bot; reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/the-importance-of-independent-media-and-critical-media-literacy-education-in-a-democratic-society/ )
11:16 TR News; "This article will feature senior judges I have blogged about before, and explain how I expect the Assange case will be finally stitched up for extradition." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/07/how-the-establishment-works-part-2/ | Source: Craig Murray
11:16 TR Bot; How the Establishment Works Part 2 - Craig Murray
11:17 TR News; "Whole body scans" https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/07/17/whole-body-scans-back-from-the-grave-and-ready-to-party/ |
11:17 TR Bot; "Whole body scans": Back from the grave and ready to party - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
11:17 TR News; "The standard Raspberry Pi computers have been in short supply for a while now, so much so that people are going to great lengths to find replacements" https://hackaday.com/2023/07/17/adapter-board-expands-the-pi-zero/ | Source: Hackaday
11:17 TR Bot; Board Expands The Pi Zero | Hackaday
11:19 parsifal; schestovitz: how do you manage to multitask in that scenario with so little ram? (i'm not trying to make fun of you, just ask from curiosity)
11:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
11:20 starstreak; he has a beowulf cluster of 8 pentium 4 computers with 2gb ram each
11:20 schestowitz; parsifal: the multitasking makes it easier
11:21 schestowitz; because if something takes 5 second to complete you can move to some other task
11:22 TR News; "There are a huge number of products available in the modern world that come with network connectivity now" https://hackaday.com/2023/07/17/remote-code-execution-on-an-oscilloscope/ | Source: Hackaday
11:22 TR Bot; Code Execution On An Oscilloscope | Hackaday
11:23 TR News; GLASNOST Is A Computer That Makes Transparency A Priority https://hackaday.com/2023/07/17/glasnost-is-a-computer-that-makes-transparency-a-priority/ | Source: Hackaday
11:23 TR Bot; Is A Computer That Makes Transparency A Priority | Hackaday
11:24 parsifal; schestovitz: thanks;)
11:25 schestowitz; a good analogy is cooking
11:25 schestowitz; a good cook makes several dishes at the same time
11:25 schestowitz; and moves between them as they simmer, boil, etc.
11:26 starstreak; Roy uses a series of campfires instead of an electric stove
11:30 TR News; TikTok SPAM... https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4a3ny9/viral-tiktok-npc-streamer-pinkydoll-doesnt-care-what-you-think
11:30 TR Bot; Viral TikTok NPC Streamer Pinkydoll Doesn't Care What You Think
11:31 TR News; More TikTok trash https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/style/pinkydoll-social-media-livestream.html
11:31 TR Bot; PinkyDoll Mesmerized the Internet With Her Imitations of Video Game Characters - The New York Times
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11:35 starstreak; parsifal, http://techrights.org/2023/04/10/
11:35 TR Bot; 2023 April 10 | Techrights
11:36 starstreak; jokes aside, Roy just uses a bunch of old computers at once, so he can offload tasks onto them and each one doesnt need a lot of ram
11:44 parsifal; starstreak: i already watched that some time ago, but i don't know how he make use all that, anyway tanks for the link;)
11:45 starstreak; ssh -X
11:46 starstreak; he likely controls them all from one computer using ssh -X
11:47 starstreak; thats why he hates wayland
11:51 schestowitz; you don't know what X forwarding doe
11:51 schestowitz; *does
11:51 schestowitz; and you talk down to people who reject wayland
11:51 starstreak; it lets you run X programs remotely
11:52 starstreak; so you can run firefox on 5 different computers and use them on one screen
11:53 parsifal; starstreak: i also hate with passion that joke for variety of reasons, but not going to explain why, no time for that
12:00 starstreak; what joke?
12:01 starstreak; it clearly makes sense, why get a modern computer with 16gb ram when you can just chain 8 old computers together with 2gb of ram each
12:02 starstreak; that also means 8 cpus
12:07 starstreak; https://gemini.techrights.org:1965/
12:07 TR Bot; ( status 0 @ https://gemini.techrights.org:1965/ )
12:07 TR News; My Report From Akademy 2023 https://ervin.ipsquad.net/blog/2023/07/17/report-from-akademy-2023/
12:07 TR Bot; My Report From Akademy 2023 - ervin
12:09 TR News; This is untrue in the UK; number of deaths still vastly above averages. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/briefing/covid.html
12:09 TR Bot; A Positive Covid Milestone - The New York Times
12:17 TR News; Young Americans blame SCOTUS, GOP for unforgiven student loan debt https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/young-americans-blame-student-loan-debt-scotus
12:17 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/young-americans-blame-student-loan-debt-scotus )
12:17 TR News; Life is about to get much more expensive for millions of families https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/student-loans-child-care-medicaid-food-stamps-inflation
12:17 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/student-loans-child-care-medicaid-food-stamps-inflation )
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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12:26 TR News; Cluster bombs are a shot in the foot for NATO. How much Ukraine "support" money will be funneled to enrich the pockets of rich warlords who sell illegal weapons? What might that do to public support?
12:29 parsifal; starstreak: <starstreak: what joke?> wayland
12:30 schestowitz; Windows: Why would you want to do THAT?
12:30 schestowitz; Wayland: Why would you want to do THAT?
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12:33 TR News; The Kremlins new buyers for Yandex Putins domestic policy czar hopes to engineer a sale that would further consolidate the states control over Russias Internet industry https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/07/18/the-kremlin-s-new-buyers-for-yandex | Source: Meduza
12:33 TR Bot; The Kremlins new buyers for Yandex Putins domestic policy czar hopes to engineer a sale that would further consolidate the states control over Russias Internet industry Meduza
12:36 TR News; Embracing Consolidation and Squashing Silos https://www.securityweek.com/embracing-consolidation-and-squashing-silos/
12:36 TR Bot; Consolidation and Squashing Silos - SecurityWeek
12:36 TR News; Owner of Cybercrime Website BreachForums Pleads Guilty https://www.securityweek.com/owner-of-cybercrime-website-breachforums-pleads-guilty/
12:36 TR Bot; of Cybercrime Website BreachForums Pleads Guilty - SecurityWeek
12:37 parsifal; schestovitz: wayland is a beta software with a mass of shortcomings, but i'm not a beta tester, that's all
12:39 TR News; They try to twist this as a "linux" issue rather than SOHO issue https://www.techtimes.com/articles/293822/20230714/soho-router-targeting-botnet-avrecon-infiltrates-more-70-000-devices.htm
12:39 TR Bot; SOHO Router-Targeting Botnet AVrecon Infiltrates More Than 70,000 Devices in 20 Countries: How Dangerous Is This Malware Strain? | Tech Times
12:40 TR News; What You Need to Know about Open-Source Software Supply Chain Security https://www.linuxsecurity.com/features/features/open-source-software-supply-chain-security
12:40 TR Bot; What You Need to Know about Open-Source Software Supply Chain Secur...
12:41 TR News; Ben Hutchings: FOSS activity in June 2023 https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/foss-activity-in-june-2023.html
12:41 TR Bot; Better living through software - Ben Hutchings's diary of life and technology
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13:01 TR News; MOVEit Hack: Number of Impacted Organizations Exceeds 340 https://www.securityweek.com/moveit-hack-number-of-impacted-organizations-exceeds-340/
13:01 TR Bot; Hack: Number of Impacted Organizations Exceeds 340 - SecurityWeek
13:02 TR News; Exploitation of ColdFusion Vulnerability Reported as Adobe Patches Another Critical Flaw https://www.securityweek.com/exploitation-of-coldfusion-vulnerability-reported-as-adobe-patches-another-critical-flaw/
13:02 TR Bot; of ColdFusion Vulnerability Reported as Adobe Patches Another Critical Flaw - SecurityWeek
13:05 TR News; Hong Kong govt watchdog rejects complaint over handling of unexplained media ban at press event https://hongkongfp.com/2023/07/18/hong-kong-govt-watchdog-rejects-hkfp-complaint-over-handling-of-unexplained-media-ban-at-press-event/
13:05 TR Bot; Hong Kong gov't watchdog rejects complaint over handling of unexplained media ban at press event - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
13:06 TR News; "An anonymous but outspoken netizen recently dubbed the Hong Kong police, or perhaps just the national security specialists, our Gestapo-po." https://hongkongfp.com/2023/07/18/complain-about-hong-kong-if-you-must-but-our-plight-has-nothing-to-do-with-german-history/
13:06 TR Bot; Complain about Hong Kong if you must, but our plight has nothing to do with Germanhistory - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
13:07 TR News; Windows TCO https://itwire.com/security/fortescue-metals-admits-it-suffered-breach,-cl0p-claims-credit.html
13:07 TR Bot; - Fortescue Metals admits it suffered breach, Cl0p claims credit
13:08 TR News; Google virus database VirusTotal leaks subscriber information: report https://itwire.com/security/google-virus-database-virustotal-leaks-subscriber-information-report.html
13:08 TR Bot; - Google virus database VirusTotal leaks subscriber information: report
13:08 TR News; China launches another online rumor crackdown https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/07/china-launches-another-online-rumor-crackdown/
13:08 TR Bot; China launches another online rumor crackdown - JURIST - News
13:08 TR News; How to Install Telegram on Pop!_OS https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-telegram-on-pop-os/
13:08 TR Bot; to Install Telegram on Pop!_OS - LinuxCapable
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13:10 TR News; Kiwi TCMS: OffSec has chosen Kiwi TCMS https://kiwitcms.org/blog/malcolm-shore/2023/07/18/offsec-has-chosen-kiwi-tcms/
13:10 TR Bot; Kiwi TCMS - OffSec has chosen Kiwi TCMS
13:12 TR News; The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 796 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/07/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-796/ https://ubuntu-news.org/2023/07/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-796/
13:12 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 796
13:12 TR Bot; Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 796
13:12 TR News; Adding ZONEMD protections to the root zone https://blog.apnic.net/2023/07/18/adding-zonemd-protections-to-the-root-zone/
13:12 TR Bot; Adding ZONEMD protections to the root zone | APNIC Blog
13:14 TR News; Bengaluru CEO gets 3000 resumes in two days, expresses concern on Indian job market https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/bengaluru-news/bengaluru-ceo-gets-3000-resumes-in-two-days-expresses-concern-on-indian-job-market-101689672749350.html
13:14 TR Bot; Bengaluru CEO gets 3000 resumes in two days, expresses concern on job market | Bengaluru - Hindustan Times
13:15 TR News; 3 mins ago: "Time to replace local workforce with imported H1Bs: its the great replacement" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nAP7aRc#replies
13:15 TR Bot; Microsoft layoffs in Mountain View (California) this week - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
13:16 TR News; "During reorgs and layoffs, usually local workforce loses their jobs while H1Bs keep theirs: its part of the great replacement" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1nzwl2yv#replies
13:16 TR Bot; Satya driving us to new heights. - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
13:18 TR News; Compupter-Generated Misinformation https://www.techtimes.com/articles/293895/20230717/experts-warn-ai-generated-misinformation-2024-election-campaigns.htm
13:18 TR Bot; Experts Warn of AI-Generated Misinformation in 2024 US Election Campaigns | Tech Times
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
13:22 TR News; Richard Stallman speech to Japanese people 2017 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=93kcPwB1_X0
13:22 TR Bot; RIchard Stallman speech to japanese peolple 2017 - Invidious
13:23 TR News; Le logiciel libre face l'informatique (Rennes, 2019) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yu2Pqzo0Yc0
13:23 TR Bot; Le logiciel libre face l'informatique (Rennes, 2019) {part 2/2} - Invidious
13:28 schestowitz; LOL. more random garbage https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bVlpGzCF3T4
13:28 TR Bot; Linus Torvalds Unconventional Relaxation: Enhancing Performance through Inline Assembly - Invidious
13:29 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jvsFl1nT6yY
13:29 TR Bot; Meet our Members - Nils Torvalds from Finland - Invidious
13:31 TR News; Coming
13:31 TR News; RedHat Becomes Closed Source (Who Didn't See This Coming?) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gDRjgymRKBk
13:31 TR Bot; RedHat Becomes Closed Source (Who Didn't See This Coming?) - Invidious
13:40 TR News; Linux is a kernel. This page is intentionally misleading. https://www.linux.com/what-is-linux/
13:40 TR Bot; is Linux? - Linux.com
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13:44 TR News; (NEW): A declarative approach to Linux networking with Netplan http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/A_declarative_approach_to_Linux_networking_with_Netplan.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/A_declarative_approach_to_Linux_networking_with_Netplan.gmi
13:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines A declarative approach to Linux networking with Netplan
13:44 TR News; (UPDATED): After 30 Years, Linux Finally Hits 3% Market Share http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/10/After_30_Years_Linux_Finally_Hits_3_Market_Share.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/10/After_30_Years_Linux_Finally_Hits_3_Market_Share.gmi
13:44 TR Bot; Tux Machines After 30 Years, Linux Finally Hits 3% Market Share
13:46 TR News; Linux has nearly half of the desktop OS Linux market https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/18/linux_desktop_debate/
13:46 TR Bot; Linux has nearly half of the desktop OS Linux market The Register
14:08 TR News; (NEW): Upgrade to Linux Mint 21.2 from 21.1 [Complete Guide] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Upgrade_to_Linux_Mint_21_2_from_21_1_Complete_Guide.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Upgrade_to_Linux_Mint_21_2_from_21_1_Complete_Guide.gmi
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14:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines Upgrade to Linux Mint 21.2 from 21.1 [Complete Guide]
14:09 TR News; (NEW): Google Chrome 114 Display Broken with Skia, Shader in Linux [Fixed] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Google_Chrome_114_Display_Broken_with_Skia_Shader_in_Linux_Fixe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Google_Chrome_114_Display_Broken_with_Skia_Shader_in_Linux_Fixe.gmi
14:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Google Chrome 114 Display Broken with Skia, Shader in Linux [Fixed]
14:11 TR News; "Even the smallest of CubeSats is likely running Linux on a multi-core system." https://hackaday.com/2023/07/17/discussing-the-finer-points-of-space-worthy-software/ | Source: Hackaday
14:11 TR Bot; The Finer Points Of Space-Worthy Software | Hackaday
14:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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15:08 TR News; Fedora Magazine: Packit how to trigger jobs manually https://fedoramagazine.org/packit-how-to-trigger-jobs-manually/
15:08 TR Bot; Packit - how to trigger jobs manually - Fedora Magazine
15:09 TR News; How To Install Grub Customizer On Ubuntu 22.04 LTS And Linux Distros https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-install-grub-customizer-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
15:09 TR Bot; To Install Grub Customizer On Ubuntu 22.04 LTS And Linux Distros | Itsubuntu
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15:10 TR News; How To Install Canon Printer Driver In Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-install-canon-printer-driver-in-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
15:10 TR Bot; To Install Canon Printer Driver In Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Itsubuntu
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15:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:24 TR News; "opened my spreadsheet with my finances to try and calculate how long I would have to work to retire at something close to my current standard of living" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
15:24 TR News; How to compare two directories in Linux terminal https://www.fosslinux.com/121752/how-to-compare-two-directories-in-linux-terminal.htm
15:24 TR Bot; How to Compare Two Directories in Linux Terminal
15:24 TR News; How to check your Fedora version via GUI and command Line https://www.fosslinux.com/121978/how-to-check-your-fedora-version-via-gui-and-command-line.htm
15:24 TR Bot; How to Check Your Fedora Version via GUI and Command Line
15:24 TR News; How to install missing ifconfig command on Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/121757/how-to-install-missing-ifconfig-command-on-linux.htm
15:24 TR Bot; Ifconfig Not Found? Here's How to Install it on Linux
15:25 TR News; How to Install Cockpit on Debian 12/11/10 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-cockpit-on-debian-linux/
15:25 TR Bot; to Install Cockpit on Debian 12/11/10 - LinuxCapable
15:25 TR News; How to find PID and PPID in Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/121769/how-to-find-pid-and-ppid-in-linux.htm
15:25 TR Bot; Unlocking Linux Processes: How to Find PID and PPID
15:25 TR News; How to Install Discord on Pop!_OS https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-discord-on-pop-os/
15:25 TR Bot; to Install Discord on Pop!_OS - LinuxCapable
15:25 TR News; Linux File Timestamps: How to use atime, mtime, and ctime https://www.fosslinux.com/121740/linux-file-timestamps-how-to-use-atime-mtime-and-ctime.htm
15:25 TR Bot; Linux File Timestamps: How to Use atime, mtime, and ctime
15:25 TR News; How to Install 7-Zip on Pop!_OS https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-7-zip-on-pop-os/
15:25 TR Bot; to Install 7-Zip on Pop!_OS - LinuxCapable
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15:50 TR News; Installation of Node.js on Linux for Newbies https://linuxtldr.com/installing-node-js/
15:50 TR Bot; Installation of Node.js on Linux for Newbies
15:51 TR News; How To Install RubyMine on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-rubymine-ubuntu-22-04/
15:51 TR Bot; How To Install RubyMine on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
15:51 TR News; Fix Updating from such a repository cant be done securely Error In Linux https://itsubuntu.com/fix-updating-from-such-a-repository-cant-be-done-securely-error-in-linux/
15:51 TR Bot; Updating From Such A Repository Cant Be Done Securely Error In Linux | Itsubuntu
15:53 TR News; How to Delete/Disable Swapfile on Ubuntu https://tecadmin.net/disable-swapfile-on-ubuntu/
15:53 TR Bot; How to Delete/Disable Swapfile on Ubuntu TecAdmin
15:54 TR News; Destination Linux 332: The Swiss Army Knife of Linux Distros https://destinationlinux.org/episode-332/ https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-332/
15:54 TR Bot; 332: The Swiss Army Knife of Linux Distros - Destination Linux
15:54 TR Bot; The Swiss Army Knife of Linux Distros - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
15:54 TR News; Late Night Linux Episode 238 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-238/
15:54 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 238 Late Night Linux
15:55 TR News; Using Fallocate command to create specific size files https://www.fosslinux.com/121773/using-fallocate-command-to-create-specific-size-files.htm
15:55 TR Bot; Using Fallocate Command to Create Specific Size Files
15:57 TR News; This is a lie from SiliconAngle. And SiliconAngle is taking bribes from Red Hat/IBM. Lies for money, also SPAM for money. https://itwire.com/open-source/biztech-site-claims-red-hat-source-code-move-has-majority-support.html
15:57 TR Bot; - Biztech site claims Red Hat source code move has majority support
15:57 TR News; 8 Best Free and Open Source Linux Desktop Genome Browsers https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-linux-desktop-genome-browsers/
15:57 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Linux Desktop Genome Browsers - LinuxLinks
15:58 TR News; How To Install Debian 12 Bookworm https://www.ubuntumint.com/install-debian-12-bookworm/
15:58 TR Bot; The Installation Guide of Debian 12 (Bookworm)
15:58 TR News; How to Upgrade From Debian 11 to Debian 12 https://www.ubuntumint.com/upgrade-from-debian-11-to-debian-12/
15:58 TR Bot; How to Upgrade Debian 11 to Debian 12 via CLI
15:58 TR News; How to Install Graylog on Ubuntu https://www.ubuntumint.com/install-graylog-ubuntu/
15:58 TR Bot; How to Install and Configure Graylog on Ubuntu
15:58 TR News; How to Install Pure-FTPd on Ubuntu https://www.ubuntumint.com/install-pure-ftpd-ubuntu/
15:58 TR Bot; How to Install and Configure Pure-FTPd Server on Ubuntu
15:59 TR News; How to Install VNC Server on Ubuntu https://www.ubuntumint.com/install-vnc-server-ubuntu/
15:59 TR Bot; How to Install and Configure VNC on Ubuntu
15:59 TR News; Shirish Agarwal: WordPress Cookies, Debdelta, RISC, Manipur, Libraries in Kerala. https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2023/07/17/wordpress-cookies-debdelta-risc-manipur-libraries-in-kerala/
15:59 TR Bot; Wordpress Cookies, Debdelta, RISC, Manipur, Libraries in Kerala. Experiences in the community
16:00 TR News; For the First Time, Linux Crosses 40% Market Share in France (Well, GNU/Linux and Android) http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/gnu-linux-and-android-in-france/
16:00 TR Bot; For the First Time, Linux Crosses 40% Market Share in France (Well, GNU/Linux and Android) | Techrights
16:01 TR News; Linux Foundation Probably Reads Techrights Closely http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/lf-probably-reads-techrights/
16:01 TR Bot; Linux Foundation Probably Reads Techrights Closely | Techrights
16:02 TR News; AlmaLinux Will No Longer Aim for 1:1 RHEL Compatibility http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/AlmaLinux-Will-No-Longer-Aim-for-1-1-RHEL-Compatibility
16:02 TR Bot; timed out after 10001 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/AlmaLinux-Will-No-Longer-Aim-for-1-1-RHEL-Compatibility )
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16:02 TR News; MakuluLinux 4K Text to Image Generator ! http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2023/07/18/makululinux-4k-text-to-image-generator/
16:02 TR Bot; 4K Text to Image Generator ! MakuluLinux
16:03 TR News; Exploring Information Gathering with Maltego: A Comprehensive Guide https://www.cyberpratibha.com/information-gathering-with-maltego/
16:03 TR Bot; Exploring Information Gathering with Maltego: A Comprehensive Guide
16:03 TR News; Step-by-Step Guide Installing openSUSE Leap on your virtualized environment https://www.suse.com/c/step-by-step-guide-installing-opensuse-leap-on-your-virtualized-environment/
16:03 TR Bot; Guide Installing openSUSE Leap on your virtualized environment | SUSE Communities
16:04 TR News; Kali Linux and Man-in-the-Middle Attacks: Empowering Ethical Hackers https://www.cyberpratibha.com/kali-linux-man-in-the-middle-attack-tutorial/
16:04 TR Bot; Kali Linux and Man-in-the-Middle Attacks: Empowering Ethical Hackers
16:04 TR News; New tuning guide: Optimizing Linux for AMD EPYC 9004 Series Processors https://www.suse.com/c/new-tuning-guide-optimizing-linux-for-amd-epyc-9004-series-processors/
16:04 TR Bot; tuning guide: Optimizing Linux for AMD EPYC 9004 Series Processors | SUSE Communities
16:05 TR News; Sparky 2023.07 https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-2023-07/
16:05 TR Bot; Sparky 2023.07 SparkyLinux
16:05 TR News; I'm moving my projects off GitHub | nicole@web https://ntietz.com/blog/moving-off-github/ Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//ntietz.com/blog/moving-off-github/
16:05 TR Bot; I'm moving my projects off GitHub | nicole@web
16:11 TR News; Linux Mint 21.2 Victoria Released in All Three Flavors https://fossforce.com/2023/07/linux-mint-21-2-victoria-released-in-all-three-flavors/
16:11 TR Bot; Linux Mint 21.2 'Victoria' Released in All Three Flavors - FOSS Force
16:15 TR News; New Containers and VMs sub-category in forum https://bkhome.org/news/202307/new-containers-and-vms-sub-category-in-forum.html
16:15 TR Bot; New Containers and VMs sub-category in forum
16:16 TR News; ONS still shows about 10% rise in mortality in the UK after the pandemic 'ended'
16:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
16:21 TR News; (NEW): GIMP Dev Release Completes GTK3 Port, Adds Headerbar Option http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/GIMP_Dev_Release_Completes_GTK3_Port_Adds_Headerbar_Option.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/GIMP_Dev_Release_Completes_GTK3_Port_Adds_Headerbar_Option.gmi
16:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines GIMP Dev Release Completes GTK3 Port, Adds Headerbar Option
16:22 TR News; (NEW): Blender 3.6.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Blender_3_6_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Blender_3_6_1.gmi
16:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Blender 3.6.1
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16:22 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
16:22 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
16:39 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/today_s_howtos.gmi
16:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
16:40 TR News; (NEW): NVIDIA 535.86.05 Linux Graphics Driver Improves Wayland Support, Fixes Bugs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/NVIDIA_535_86_05_Linux_Graphics_Driver_Improves_Wayland_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/NVIDIA_535_86_05_Linux_Graphics_Driver_Improves_Wayland_Support.gmi
16:40 TR Bot; Tux Machines NVIDIA 535.86.05 Linux Graphics Driver Improves Wayland Support, Fixes Bugs
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
17:04 TR News; SiliconANGLE/theCUBE takes BRIBES from Microsoft and it shows. Propaganda machine disguised as "news" site and "analysis" https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/17/uk-court-gives-microsoft-time-negotiate-cma-69b-activision-blizzard-acquisition/ https://siliconangle.com/2023/07/17/on-thecube-pod-lina-khans-latest-miss-with-the-ftc-and-an-eye-towards-supercloud-3-thecubepod/
17:04 TR Bot; court gives Microsoft more time to negotiate with CMA over $69B Activision Blizzard acquisition - SiliconANGLE
17:04 TR Bot; theCUBE Pod: Lina Khans latest miss with the FTC and an eye toward Supercloud 3 - SiliconANGLE
17:05 TR News; Microsoft Layoffs Still Ongoing, This Wave Did Not End http://techrights.org/2023/07/17/microsoft-layoffs-still-ongoing/
17:05 TR Bot; Microsoft Layoffs Still Ongoing, This Wave Did Not End | Techrights
17:17 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi
17:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
17:17 TR News; (NEW): Multimedia/Shows: MakuluLinux, Destination Linux, and Late Night Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Multimedia_Shows_MakuluLinux_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_L.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/07/18/Multimedia_Shows_MakuluLinux_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_L.gmi
17:17 TR Bot; Tux Machines Multimedia/Shows: MakuluLinux, Destination Linux, and Late Night Linux
17:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
17:27 TR News; [Meme] German Efficiency | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/epo-german-efficiency/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/epo-german-efficiency/
17:27 TR Bot; [Meme] German Efficiency | Techrights
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17:43 TR News; It Might Be Too Late for the German Government to Fix the EPO (It Had a Lot to Do With This Current Mess) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/07/18/fixing-the-epo-2023/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/07/18/fixing-the-epo-2023/
17:43 TR Bot; It Might Be Too Late for the German Government to Fix the EPO (It Had a Lot to Do With This Current Mess) | Techrights
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17:46 techrights_guest_239; hello
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17:49 TR News; Meson 1.2 https://mesonbuild.com/Release-notes-for-1-2-0.html
17:49 TR Bot; Release 1.2.0
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18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:27 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-exchange-online-hit-by-new-outage-blocking-emails/
18:27 TR Bot; Microsoft Exchange Online hit by new outage blocking emails
18:29 bnchs; lol
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19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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20:01 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/?p=1954671
20:01 TR Bot; Typo leaks millions of US military emails to Mali web operator | Ars Technica
20:07 bnchs; >typing .ml instead of .mil
20:07 immibis; lemmy.mil
20:07 AdmFubar; dammed metric system!! :P
20:08 AdmFubar; https://www.darkreading.com/remote-workforce/hacker-infected-foiled-by-own-infostealer
20:08 TR Bot; Hacker Infected & Foiled by Own Infostealer
20:08 AdmFubar; all computers really do is let you make more accurate mistakes
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20:11 AdmFubar; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/amazon-lays-off-more-people-and-inadvertently-unveils-new-strategy-to-mass-fire-employees-12882372.html
20:11 TR Bot; Amazon lays off more people and inadvertently unveils new strategy to mass fire employees
20:11 AdmFubar; https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/ai-chatbots-can-manipulate-and-crash-the-stock-market-irreparably-says-a-worried-us-sec-12881062.html
20:11 TR Bot; AI chatbots can manipulate and crash the stock market irreparably, says a worried US SEC
20:12 bnchs; who the fuck is USING ai chatbos for financial advice
20:13 immibis; everyone
20:14 AdmFubar; is this from futurama? https://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/un-warns-that-neuralink-like-ai-brain-implants-can-read-your-thoughts-alter-how-you-think-12876972.html
20:14 TR Bot; Brain-o-Scope: UN warns Neuralink-like AI-brain implants will hack your head
20:14 immibis; everyone is using them for everything. the entire economy is fake
20:15 immibis; i'm not going to invest based on whatever ChatGPT is telling people to do, but if you did, and you did it fast, you might successfully take money from idiots
20:15 immibis; like if you said that oh, ChatGPT says tesla and nvidia are good stocks, and you completely ignored all the actual numbers, and you bought tesla and nvidia a couple months ago... you would've doubled your money
20:16 immibis; by the way all this stuff they're worried about is already happening, it just doesn't speak english so they ignore it
20:16 AdmFubar; https://freespeech.com/2023/07/17/millions-of-sensitive-us-military-emails-misdirected-to-mali-despite-2014-warning-from-me/
20:16 TR Bot; Of Sensitive US Military Emails Misdirected To Mali, Despite 2014 Warning From Me FreeSpeech.com
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20:17 immibis; not sure i should trust any site calling itself freespeech.com
20:19 AdmFubar; trust it with what?
20:19 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/18/rekor-ai-drug-bust/
20:19 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/18/rekor-ai-drug-bust/ )
20:19 AdmFubar; https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/18/you-may-deactivate-anyones-whatsapp-account-with-a-simple-email/
↺ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/18/you-may-deactivate-anyones-whatsapp-account-with-a-simple-email/
20:19 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/18/you-may-deactivate-anyones-whatsapp-account-with-a-simple-email/ )
↺ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/07/18/you-may-deactivate-anyones-whatsapp-account-with-a-simple-email/
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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21:46 MinceR; 18 110021 < mjg59_> DaemonFC: It's a spec term, not a firmware term, most platforms support it in one way or another
21:46 MinceR; the point is to make it difficult and different on every piece of hardware
21:46 MinceR; to ensure that MICROS~1 and crApple don't have to compete on a fair footing
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-07-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:43 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/flourishing
23:43 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Flourishing
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