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00:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I keep getting spam from an "opencare" about booking a dentist and getting a gift card.
00:03 DaemonFC; Of course, when I went to see which dentists let you book through them, I noticed most were in Chicago and had like aromatherapy and shit going on, so you know what a cleaning must cost there.
00:03 DaemonFC; I don't know who decided to have a day spa in the middle of a dentist's office.
00:03 DaemonFC; In case it wasn't expensive enough to go to a dentist maybe?
00:04 DaemonFC; I noticed a lot of dentists have just stopped taking ANY dental insurance.
00:04 DaemonFC; And they charge really high prices.
00:05 DaemonFC; I had Dr. Goone (my dentist) quote me on Mandy. Since he didn't accept the Blue Cross PPO plan (or any insurance), he said it would cost about $8,700 to take Mandy to see him, and he recommended finding an in-network dentist instead.
00:05 DaemonFC; It's still going to cost about $3,500-$4,000, but that beats the hell out of $8,700.
00:06 DaemonFC; There's nothing really wrong with my teeth and it doesn't look like there will be for a while, so getting dental insurance for myself would basically just mean flushing $600 a year down the toilet.
00:07 DaemonFC; The last cavity I had was 15 years ago. Actually, 15 years and a month.
00:07 DaemonFC; I get my cleanings at a dental school that charges $15.
00:08 MinceR; https://textsfromsuperheroes.com/post/685900488162607104/kenobi
00:08 TR Bot; Texts From Superheroes, Texts From Superheroes Facebook | Twitter |...
00:09 DaemonFC; That's about the only benefit I'd have gotten had I paid dental premiums for 15 years and a month. So assuming that it costs about $50 a month to get a decent plan, then that's like $9050 in wasted premiums over that time period to get pretty much no benefits.
00:10 DaemonFC; It's a better investment to just go to the dental clinic and use an Oral B electric toothbrush that basically removes all of the plaque.
00:10 DaemonFC; The manual toothbrushes almost never remove that much plaque. Some of them can do an okay job.
00:11 DaemonFC; https://www.dentaly.org/us/best-electric-toothbrush/best-oral-b/oral-b-io/
00:11 TR Bot; Oral-B iO Electric Toothbrush Review: Is It Worth the Price?
00:11 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, They changed the handle so they could introduce new brush heads that are not compatible.
00:12 DaemonFC; I bought about 5 years of heads because my last Oral B lasted about 7 years I think. You don't want to get caught not being able to get replacement parts, but you don't want to hoard and have leftovers that don't work with the next product you'll have to buy.
00:13 DaemonFC; "Most of Oral-B's other current toothbrushes are more or less the same on the inside. With the iO, though, they have completely revolutionized how the toothbrush works."
00:13 DaemonFC; Yeah, I'm sure there have been exciting new advancements in the field.
00:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
00:13 DaemonFC; :)
00:13 MinceR; :>
00:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, Reminds me of Kevin Spacey in American Beauty interviewing for a fast food job.
00:14 MinceR; i prefer the philips sonicare
00:14 DaemonFC; "I have fast food experience!" Manager: "Yeah, like 30 years ago." "Well, I'm sure there have been exciting advancements in the field, but I'm sure you must have some sort of training program.".
00:14 MinceR; :>
00:16 DaemonFC; The joke of course being that those jobs are so easy some idiot teenager high on pot can walk in there and do them.
00:16 DaemonFC; And that's why they pay minimum wage.
00:18 MinceR; "I was pretty hungover yesterday, but I think I remember where I work."
00:21 DaemonFC; Basically.
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00:39 DaemonFC; "It still has the familiar round head with an oscillating-rotating motion. But inside, it is powered by a frictionless magnetic drive that efficiently delivers micro-vibrations through the tips of the bristles."
00:39 DaemonFC; MinceR, Smells like bullshit.
00:39 DaemonFC; "AI brushing technology"
00:39 DaemonFC; LOL
00:40 DaemonFC; The Terminator brush.
00:40 DaemonFC; " If you're consistently missing part of your mouth when you brush, or using too much pressure, this toothbrush will be able to tell you. And that's a pretty cool feature if you want to keep your teeth in tip-top condition."
00:41 DaemonFC; You can get some cheap "plaque candy" if you really want to know if you're missing anything.
00:41 DaemonFC; The dental school dyes my teeth with it and then when I look in the mirror, there's no plaque on them.
00:41 DaemonFC; And that's with the "old" Oral B toothbrush without an app.
00:43 DaemonFC; Okay, the "cheap" Io starts at $125 and they go all the way up to $255.
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00:43 DaemonFC; "It should go without saying really, the iO toothbrush leaves your teeth feeling super clean. You'd expect that from a toothbrush that has six years of research and over 250 patents behind it."
00:44 DaemonFC; LOL
00:44 DaemonFC; 250 patents!
00:44 DaemonFC; Patents make your teeth clean!
00:44 DaemonFC; schestowitz, ^
00:45 DaemonFC; Just toss the old one in the trash. This one has patents!
00:46 DaemonFC; They've also doubled the price of the heads!
00:46 DaemonFC; Doubling the price of the toothbrush and the heads makes your teeth extra clean, because the patents only go so far.
00:46 DaemonFC; MinceR, I'd probably change to the Amazon Solimo toothbrush myself.
00:47 DaemonFC; They use Amazon's older style Oral B compatible heads.
00:47 DaemonFC; Literally the only reason the IO exists is they took out more patents and doubled the price.
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00:47 DaemonFC; Actually, the base model of the old style oral B handle and starter kit was only $45.
00:48 DaemonFC; The main difference was I think the 1000 doesn't have a pressure sensor, multiple brushing modes, and Bluetooth.
00:48 DaemonFC; Other than that, it's exactly the same as the more expensive ones.
00:48 MinceR; 18 014007 < DaemonFC> The Terminator brush.
00:49 MinceR; once the human is dead, it can't get its teeth filthy again.
00:49 DaemonFC; The main thing I like about my 6000 series, which I got from Amazon Warehouse for $70, is that it has some more aggressive brushing modes and the pressure sensor.
00:50 DaemonFC; MinceR, The 6000 series is machine phase matter and can turn humans into other Terminators. The 1000 series is just your basic mimetic polyalloy. Weeeeeeak!!!!
00:50 DaemonFC; I would make sense that Skynet (Matt Smith) would install itself into the most advanced and dangerous model it had ever conceived of.
00:51 DaemonFC; In a war you have weapons, and you have small weapons, medium sized weapons, and big ones. You make relatively few of the big ones, normally.
00:52 MinceR; > If you're consistently missing part of your mouth
00:52 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di_flqPYsfs
00:52 TR Bot; https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=Di_flqPYsfs
00:52 DaemonFC; In the case of Skynet, it was pretty clear that the 1000 series Terminator was pretty difficult to stop and showed rudimentary emotions, and the 800 series could even start thinking on its own after a while.
00:52 TR Bot; invidious.weblibre.org | Aperture Science Material Emancipation Grid - Invidious
00:52 DaemonFC; So the cost of having some 1000 series models get away from you is worse than having an 800 or 600 series go rogue.
00:53 DaemonFC; In the Salvation timeline, Skynet was still even using the T-1s with some improvements.
00:53 DaemonFC; The less advanced they are, they less dangerous they are to Skynet. As long as they can patrol an area and kill humans, for the most part it doesn't matter.
00:53 DaemonFC; They're not an infiltrator model, they don't have to blend in.
00:55 DaemonFC; MinceR, I don't know how a toothbrush needs an app to tell you you're missing some of your teeth with the toothbrush.
00:55 DaemonFC; If you brush in quadrants, it's pretty easy to keep track of where you've been and what's next.
00:55 MinceR; it's cheaper to run their code on your phone than to put enough hardware in the toothbrush to run it
00:56 DaemonFC; Yeah, and they can pass the savings along with a $250 handle that needs a $10 brush every few months.
00:56 DaemonFC; :)
00:57 DaemonFC; They might as well make the handle a smartphone for what they charge you.
00:57 DaemonFC; As far as you're concerned.
00:57 DaemonFC; By the time they're done with you, you'll have paid them at least $450 over 5 years for a damned toothbrush.
00:59 MinceR; i don't need my toothbrush to give me tips
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00:59 MinceR; or monitor my brushing
01:07 DaemonFC; Send it to THE CLOUD.
01:08 MinceR; :>
01:09 matey; i don't need my toothbrush to give me tips <- this is a job for the toilet imo
01:09 MinceR; smart toilet?
01:09 matey; "you know, if you ate a bran muffin once in a while, this would be easier for BOTH of us. just a thought."
01:09 MinceR; lol
01:09 matey; smart toilet? <- smartarse toilet more like
01:11 matey; "aww cmon! kitchen roll? you know how many of these the city has to deal with?"
01:12 matey; "what the fuck do i look like, gordon ramsay?"
01:12 matey; im telling you, for everyone person that refuses to pay good money for abuse
01:12 matey; there are five people willing to pay extra for it
01:13 matey; fratboy picks up a new smartarse(tm) toothbrush
01:14 matey; toothbrush: "FINALLY!"
01:14 matey; "whats it been like 2 days?"
01:14 matey; /me points out this bits been done before
01:14 matey; several times in transmet
01:15 matey; and once in babylon 5 when they try a personality setting for the ship computer
01:15 matey; of course they were having fun with something douglas adams did first
01:15 matey; and i think the computer was voiced by (the) harlan ellison
01:16 DaemonFC; https://www.wired.com/review/oral-b-io-series-8-electric-toothbrush/
01:16 TR Bot; iO Series 8 Review: A Grossly Expensive Electric Toothbrush | WIRED
01:16 DaemonFC; <MinceR> smart toilet?
01:16 matey; but we used to joke about toilets watching us take a shit and having something to say about it
01:16 DaemonFC; Toilet: Sounds like unnecessary straining. Someone needs more fiber.
01:17 matey; back when it was more of a stretch (the idea that is... nevermind)
01:17 DaemonFC; As a push message to your iPhone. "PUSH!" -Message
01:17 matey; tech continues to obsolete everything, especially satire
01:18 matey; welcome to microsoft.com, where dystopia is obsolete!
01:18 matey; welcome to dystopia 2.0
01:21 matey; in transmet the maker kept using up the base material to manufacture drugs for itself, which it had gotten hooked on
01:23 matey; because it was high it would also make ridiculous versions of the things spider requested it make
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02:14 psydruid; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-78A2CfYIk
02:14 TR Bot; https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=6-78A2CfYIk
02:14 TR Bot; youtube.076.ne.jp | - (LIVE @ ) - Invidious
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02:23 DaemonFC; https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077Y8DLXL/
02:23 TR Bot; Oral-B Genius 6000 Electric Toothbrush, Black : Health & Household
02:23 DaemonFC; That's the one I use.
02:24 DaemonFC; Ah, they had a $25 coupon and a 40% off thing from Discover card.
02:24 DaemonFC; That's why I bought this model.
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02:40 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-170622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-170622.txt
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02:43 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 17, 2022
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02:48 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:50 DaemonFC; https://www.consumerreports.org/toothbrush/electric-toothbrush-or-manual-a3193343159/
02:50 TR Bot; Should You Use an Electric Toothbrush or a Manual Toothbrush? - Consumer Reports
02:50 DaemonFC; "But most people still use a traditional manual toothbrush instead of a powered device. According to a report by consumer marketing analysis firm Mintel, only 36 percent of adults say they use an electric toothbrush. These devices are more popular among older age groups and people with higher incomes, however: Mintel reports that half of people 55 and older with annual incomes of $75,000 or more prefer using an electric toothbrush over a manual
02:50 DaemonFC; one."
02:51 DaemonFC; I wonder if it's a question of being better educated or just the snob appeal and laziness of letting a machine do the grunt work for you.
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02:51 DaemonFC; mjg59_ know about that last bit. Rich assholes getting in the back of their Tesla and letting AutoCrash take over.
02:53 DaemonFC; "One of the more comprehensive analyses of the topica 2014 review of studies by the independent Cochrane Collaborationgave powered toothbrushes a slight edge at cleaning away plaque.
02:53 DaemonFC; The researchers looked at 56 clinical trials of unsupervised toothbrushing by more than 5,000 adults and children, and found that study subjects who used a powered toothbrush showed an 11 percent reduction in plaque at one to three months, and a 21 percent reduction after three months or more, compared with those who used a manual toothbrush.
02:53 DaemonFC; They also found that users of electric toothbrushes had a 6 percent reduction in gingivitis (gum disease) at one to three months and an 11 percent reduction after three months or longer."
02:53 DaemonFC; That's probably worth the marginal cost difference for the toothbrush.
02:53 DaemonFC; Considering that dentists don't give away fillings and other services for free.
02:53 DaemonFC; And who wants them if you can avoid it anyway, even if it was free?
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02:55 DaemonFC; It would be interesting to look at how many fillings, extractions, etc. both groups needed over a 5 or 10 year period.
02:56 DaemonFC; "A German study published in 2019 in the journal Clinical Periodontology also found that electric toothbrushes were more effective for gum health. Here, researchers at University Medicine Greifswald, who followed 2,819 adults over 11 years, determined that using a powered toothbrush reduced the progression of periodontal disease. Plus, electric toothbrush users had healthier gums overall and retained 19 percent more teeth over the study period
02:56 DaemonFC; than those using a manual toothbrush."
02:56 DaemonFC; 19% more teeth!
02:56 DaemonFC; :)
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03:00 DaemonFC; MinceR, The sonic models did the worst among electric brushes.
03:00 DaemonFC; They left more plaque than the rotating-oscillating models and they did significantly more damage to dentin.
03:02 MinceR; that's the opposite of my experience
03:03 DaemonFC; I haven't come across many P&G products that don't work fairly well.
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03:04 DaemonFC; I started using Iams back when it was still owned by P&G, but since then I just look at the nutritional labeling for what to feed the cats.
03:04 DaemonFC; They seem to be okay with anything except Hills Science Diet.
03:05 DaemonFC; Which is what most humane shelters feed their cats.
03:05 DaemonFC; And send you home with samples of.
03:05 DaemonFC; I noticed that all the cats there tend to be pretty scrawny until I get them and start feeding them something else.
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03:06 DaemonFC; Not really sure why P&G sold Eukanuba and Iams.
03:06 DaemonFC; I mean, like, who doesn't have a cat or a dog?
03:06 DaemonFC; I think cat and dog owners are a pretty big majority, at least around here.
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03:07 DaemonFC; The fact that they got rid of that division for only $3 billion dollars in 2014 tells me they really wanted rid of it though.
03:08 DaemonFC; MinceR, I noticed that thanks to the inflation, that Iams started using cheaper packaging material.
03:08 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:08 DaemonFC; They used to use this really sturdy plastic bag that I had to go get a pair of scissors for.
03:08 DaemonFC; Now they use this cheap wimpy little bag that you can rip open with your hands.
03:09 DaemonFC; I mainly stockpile cat food when someone has a really good coupon or rebate on it.
03:10 DaemonFC; If I start buying it like 1 bag at a time instead of like 10 bags or so, that's why. Nobody has a deal out at the moment and I'm waiting until they do.
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03:18 DaemonFC; https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0172060
03:18 TR Bot; Toothbrush abrasivity in a long-term simulation on human dentin depends on brushing mode and bristle arrangement | PLOS ONE
03:50 TR News; Social Media Is Destroying Us (Stop The Madness!) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GCiFsaaF8KA "Social media is harmful to the individual and to the greater community..."
03:50 TR Bot; Social Media Is Destroying Us (Stop The Madness!) - Invidious
03:51 TR News; md-toc version 8.1.4 (beta) released on 15 June 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Md-toc
03:51 TR Bot; Md-toc - Free Software Directory
03:53 TR News; The EPO is run or overrun by bankers [1, 2, 3] who do not understand patents and just simply attempt to monetise the patent-granting authority by flagrantly violating the European Patent Convention (EPC) at every level http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/epo-compliance-epc/
03:53 TR Bot; For the Second Time in a Week the EPO Fakes Compliance With the European Patent Convention While Constantly Violating It | Techrights
03:54 TR News; Things have become so appalling at the EPO that Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos routinely violated the EPC without facing any consequences whatsoever for these illegal actions (serious, intentional violations); the institution has therefore become an outlaw institution http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/mortified-by-cynicism-of-crime/
03:54 TR Bot; [Meme] Breaking the Law While Laughing at the Law | Techrights
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04:05 TR News; Life Without Google: A Week Later | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/life-without-google/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/life-without-google/
04:05 TR Bot; Life Without Google: A Week Later | Techrights
04:08 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, June 17, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
04:08 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
04:08 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
04:08 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
04:11 TR News; "We only have limited resources on this rock we call home. If, for example, we can make supplies last for 10 more millenia instead of 1, or, even 9, I am all for that." gemini://ainent.xyz/gemlog/2022-06-17-climate-hysteria.gmi
04:12 TR News; "I'm going to create a cgi-bin called "iss" with golang. My plan is to get the ISS coordinates and the number of people aboard." gemini://ibannieto.info/gemlog/2022-06-17.gmi
04:13 TR News; "Everyday I have the excuse "not today, tomorrow I will work hard"... this is getting old. I have to get serious. I have 18 days left. I can't do this to myself anymore. I feel so ashamed. I hope I can resolve my problems today." gemini://angel.smol.pub/whydoesthishappen
04:13 TR News; More new arrivals gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/1655476064
04:14 TR News; "Recently, there's been some "union activity" around the company I work for. Some of the lowest-paid and most-public-facing workers have started agitating to join a local union. I'm all for it, I'd join if I could. We were emailed a letter today about it, take a small look." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1655441842
04:15 TR News; "Do not tell. Do not shout. People will not change their opinion if you just tell them they are wrong. Metaphorical shouting, cancelling, no platforming, they do not work. You have to explain patiently, with understanding, with sympathy for why they think what they think." gemini://whither.smol.pub/1655485506
04:19 TR News; Social Media Is Destroying Us (Stop The Madness!) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/social-control-media-is-destroying-us/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/social-control-media-is-destroying-us/
04:19 TR Bot; Social Media Is Destroying Us (Stop The Madness!) | Techrights
04:24 TR News; "This week, I finally went back to A Corua for the Web Engines Hackfest and internal company meetings. These were my first on-site events since the COVID-19 pandemic. After two years of non-super-exciting virtual conferences I was so glad to finally be able to meet with colleagues and other people from the Web." https://frederic-wang.fr/short-blog-post-from-madrid-s-hotel-room.html
04:24 TR Bot; Short blog post from Madrid's hotel room - Frdric Wang
04:26 TR News; FSF wrote only 1 blog post in the past 16 days. It is this one :/ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summer-swag
04:26 TR Bot; Beat the heat with GNU summer swag Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
04:28 TR News; I think FSF wastes far too much time on social control media (it could blog instead), which is disposable and a poor outlet for outreach. To me, their use of Twitter sends a confusing message...
04:34 TR News; Bridging The Gap Between Open Source Database And Database Business https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/17/bridging-the-gap-between-open-source-database-and-database-business/
04:34 TR Bot; Bridging The Gap Between Open Source Database And Database Business
04:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166176
04:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
04:37 TR News; "In an age when it seems like were being solicited for feedback every time we open up an app on our phones (especially if Facebook is paying us $20 a month for the privilege of siphoning our entire lives off our phones)" https://tedium.co/2022/06/17/suggestion-box-history/
04:37 TR Bot; Suggestion Box History: The Small Data Before Big Data
04:39 TR News; The 'Linux 'Foundation is helping the 'farming' of "volunteers" (slaves) by corporations https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/ospo-mind-map-2-0-release-is-out/
04:39 TR Bot; OSPO Mind Map 2.0 release is out! - Linux Foundation
04:39 TR News; "Every week, free software activists from around the world come together in #fsf on Libera.Chat to help improve the FSD. This recaps the work we accomplished at the Friday, June 17, 2022 meeting, where we saw a couple of new programs added and several entries updated." http://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/fsd-meeting-recap-2022-06-17
04:39 TR Bot; FSD meeting recap 2022-06-17 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
04:40 TR News; "Bitwig and u-he have announced CLAP (CLever Audio Plug-in API), a new open standard for audio plug-ins and hosts." https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2022/06/15/new-audio-plugin-standard-clap-offers-open-source-alternative-to-vst-au/
04:40 TR Bot; Audio Plugin Standard, CLAP, Offers Open Source Alternative To VST & AU Synthtopia
04:41 TR News; Using the Internet without Google curating news is very much possible; this can actually be beneficial as that greatly improves the signal-to-noise ratio http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/life-without-google/
04:43 TR News; Microsoft ought to be banned from procurement, but this became a political process, not a technical process. Microsoft is trying to blame everyone else (victims, attackers) while putting back doors in its creations. https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/15/blackcat-ransomware-microsoft/
04:43 TR Bot; BlackCat is becoming a familiar pet of ransomware groups The Register
04:45 TR News; RDP has loads of holes in it, Exchange had no patches for exploited-in-the-wild critical vulnerabilities for several months, but Microsoft doesn't want to admit this. Also, ransomware is predominantly a Windows issue, statistics have repeatedly shown.
04:47 TR News; "The Russian army is suffering high casualties in the war against Ukraine and Vladimir Putin badly needs fresh troops. He wants to avoid a general mobilization, so the military is relying on other methods." https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/high-casualties-russia-pulls-out-all-the-stops-to-find-fresh-troops-a-254bf9c2-c83b-4492-8dea-1f5cec53b03e#ref=rss
04:47 TR Bot; High Casualties: Russia Pulls Out All the Stops to Find Fresh Troops - DER SPIEGEL
04:50 TR News; "Locke says that property arises when the empty, unimproved natural places are mixed with human labor. You own your body, so you own its labor and the fruits of its labor. No one owns an empty place, so when you influse your body's labor into a place, it becomes yours" https://pluralistic.net/2022/06/14/this-way-to-the-egress/
04:50 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 14 Jun 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
04:50 TR News; "I went from being a copyright zealot to being a copyright abolitionist (this was in 1999 so most of yall know me after). I realized the limitless potential of sharing & caring. Copyright abolitionism was also my gateway to anti- and post-capitalist politics." https://idiomdrottning.org/one-eighties
04:50 TR Bot; 180s
04:52 TR News; dnsdist-1.7.2 released https://blog.powerdns.com/2022/06/14/dnsdist-1-7-2-released/
04:52 TR Bot; dnsdist-1.7.2 released | PowerDNS Blog
04:53 TR News; Reporting cybercrime is hard: NCA link to Action Fraud broken for 3 years https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/06/14/reporting-cybercrime-is-hard-nca-link-to-action-fraud-broken-for-3-years/
04:53 TR Bot; Reporting cybercrime is hard: NCA link to Action Fraud broken for 3 years | Light Blue Touchpaper
04:55 TR News; The Two Types of Visibility That Boost Supply Chain Resilience https://www.supplychainbrain.com/blogs/1-think-tank/post/35034-visibility-the-critical-element-for-supply-chain-resiliency
04:55 TR Bot; The Critical Element for Supply Chain Resiliency | SupplyChainBrain
04:57 TR News; Jimmy Savile's protectors, who now take bribes from Bill Gates to cover up what he did with Jeffrey Esptein, use Microsoft shill "Rob Enderle" as an "expert". BBC is corrupt beyond repair. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61742884
04:57 TR Bot; Why you may have a thinking digital twin within a decade - BBC News
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
04:59 TR News; Don't Use Kubernetes, Yet https://matt-rickard.com/dont-use-kubernetes-yet/ hype and unnecessary, costly complexity?
04:59 TR Bot; Don't Use Kubernetes, Yet
05:01 TR News; Why is the Canadian Government So Indifferent to Privacy? - Michael Geist https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/06/canadianprivacy/ Source: michael geist
05:01 TR Bot; Why is the Canadian Government So Indifferent to Privacy? - Michael Geist
05:01 TR News; GUIs made for user surveillance https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/r-shiny-hotjar-how-to-monitor-user-behavior-in-r-shiny-apps/
05:02 TR Bot; Shiny Hotjar How To Monitor User Behavior in R Shiny Apps | R-bloggers
05:04 TR News; Simulating a Faster Path to Quantum https://cacm.acm.org/news/261899-simulating-a-faster-path-to-quantum/fulltext
05:04 TR Bot; Simulating a Faster Path to Quantum | News | Communications of the ACM
05:14 TR News; Links 17/06/2022: Wine 7.11 and Summary of a Week in GNOME | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/17/wine-7-11/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/17/wine-7-11/
05:14 TR Bot; Links 17/06/2022: Wine 7.11 and Summary of a Week in GNOME | Techrights
05:14 TR News; Free, Libre, and Open Source Software and Programming Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166177
05:14 TR Bot; Free, Libre, and Open Source Software and Programming | Tux Machines
05:15 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166178
05:15 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
05:18 TR News; Western media: you must hate Russians, stop having sympathy because every Russian is Putin himself. But that same media didn't ask you to assume every American is George W Bush. Double standards are abundant.
05:23 TR News; xkcd: Red Line Through HTTPS https://xkcd.com/2634/ Source: xkcd
05:23 TR Bot; Red Line Through HTTPS
05:23 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Gboard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166179
05:23 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Gboard | Tux Machines
05:27 TR News; Mixtile reveals U.2 to PCIe/SATA breakout board for Rockchip RK3588 cluster Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166180
05:27 TR Bot; Mixtile reveals U.2 to PCIe/SATA breakout board for Rockchip RK3588 cluster | Tux Machines
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05:30 TR News; "As a consequence of this conduct, Ive accrued a few thousand dollars over the years from both platforms. That may sound like a lot of money, but its basically a mobile phone bills worth of bounty money over 3+ years." https://soatok.blog/2022/06/14/when-soatok-used-bugcrowd/
05:30 TR Bot; When Soatok Used Bugcrowd - Dhole Moments
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05:32 TR News; John Gruber is so religious about his Apple cult that he cannot grasp the idea that his Church, led by Tim Crook and necro-leader Steve Jobs, violates people's privacy. He should revisit NSA PRISM. https://daringfireball.net/2022/06/germany_app_tracking_transparency
05:32 TR Bot; Daring Fireball: German Regulators Open Investigation Into Apples App Tracking Transparency
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05:33 TR News; Facebook favours the overzealous bigots. It pays more money (to Zuckerberg and Sandbag). https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/06/14/how-legal-loopholes-and-facebooks-policies-helped-indias-bjp-in-elections/
05:33 TR Bot; How Legal Loopholes and Facebooks Policies Helped Indias BJP in Elections neritam
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05:34 TR News; Cryptocurrency crash reducing CO emissions https://rubenerd.com/cryptocurrency-crash-reducing-co2-emissions/ "Lets make efficiency a metric again."
05:34 TR Bot; Cryptocurrency crash reducing CO emissions
05:38 TR News; The LoweDown: batten down the hatches for decisive action as recession, bear markets loom https://michaelwest.com.au/the-lowedown-batten-down-the-hatches-for-decisive-action-as-recession-bear-markets-loom/
05:38 TR Bot; The LoweDown: batten down the hatches for "decisive action" as recession, bear markets loom - Michael West
05:40 TR News; Call it "recession" or depression or whatever. The net effect is the same. Ordinary people can buy less, they're more stressed, and that leads to psychological depression. Meanwhile few individual scoop up all the assets and turn those depressed people into more obedient slaves, afraid of starving or becoming homeless.
05:41 TR News; Change my mind https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6c28d351-6cbe-4f90-b874-e2f06795397c_843x822.png
05:41 TR News; Serverless https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c479060-7ef0-45c7-8041-a9c6f09f938c_500x666.jpeg http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted.../
05:41 TR Bot; Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights
05:43 TR News; Depression https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51c8b188-32f3-44b7-a083-285fc572b856_526x526.jpeg
05:44 TR News; Amend 3.4 Released https://jcs.org/2022/06/15/amend
05:44 TR Bot; Amend 3.4 Released - joshua stein | jcs
05:48 TR News; "Pink is now running on NetBSD 9.2. Ooo, how shiny!" gemini://tilde.pink/
05:49 TR News; "Welcome, we have revived an old gopherhole which went down as its hardware died and migrated it to this gemini capsule." gemini://clemat.is/saccophore/
05:51 TR News; We need Linux kernel mailing list archives in Gemini. AFAIK, no such thing exists yet.
05:52 TR News; "Brave CEO Brendan Eich took aim at rival DuckDuckGo on Wednesday by challenging the web search engine's efforts to brush off revelations that its Android, iOS, and macOS browsers gave, to a degree, Microsoft Bing and LinkedIn tracker" gemini://kernelzechs.com/feeds/slashdot.gmi gemini://kernelzechs.com/feeds/slashdot.gmi
05:52 DaemonFC; https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/florida-wont-provide-state-resources-for-giving-covid-shots-to-kids-under-5-desantis/
05:52 TR Bot; Florida wont provide state resources for giving COVID shots to kids under 5: DeSantis | WGN-TV
05:52 DaemonFC; DeSantis said the trial data on the vaccines is abysmal and suggested they have not been through enough testing to ensure they are safe for use in kids.
05:52 DaemonFC; Our Department of Health has been very clear, the risk outweighs the benefits and we recommend against it. Thats not the same as banning it. People can access it if they want to, DeSantis said.
05:53 DaemonFC; ----
05:53 DaemonFC; I get my flu shot. I know it isn't terrific, but there have been, I think, like 77 years of data on them.
05:53 DaemonFC; So we've known what the risk/benefit is for some time.
05:54 DaemonFC; My grandmother is about to be 91 and she's taken a couple of them every year.
05:54 DaemonFC; I don't know why she gets two, but she does.
05:54 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: maybe move COVID issues to the other channel
05:55 schestowitz_TR2; some people don't know the difference between the above and "antivaxx';
05:55 schestowitz_TR2; worse yet, this will be spun as "Republicans versus Democrats" isue
05:56 AdmFubar; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/the-fight-against-stolen-products-on-amazon-and-facebook-marketplace.html
05:56 TR Bot; The fight against stolen products on Amazon and Facebook Marketplace
05:56 DaemonFC; I always test myself before I travel to meet family members just because it's so easy to do.
05:56 DaemonFC; I haven't ever tested positive for COVID. Few still ask about it, but it happens sometimes.
05:57 TR News; Best Raspberry Pi Deals 2022 | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/best-raspberry-pi-deals Source: tomshardware
05:57 TR Bot; Best Raspberry Pi Deals 2022 | Tom's Hardware
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
05:59 schestowitz_TR2; AdmFubar: "Marketplace"
05:59 schestowitz_TR2; those companies make nothing
06:00 AdmFubar; qhat?
06:00 TR News; Nintendo defects https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/two-in-five-uk-nintendo-switch-classic-consoles-blighted-by-joy-con-drift-aVaRY2j5RoO8
06:00 TR Bot; Two in five UK Nintendo Switch Classic consoles blighted by Joy-Con drift - Which? News
06:01 TR News; Raspberry Pi Converts Telegram Messages to Morse Code Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166181
06:01 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Converts Telegram Messages to Morse Code | Tux Machines
06:01 schestowitz_TR2; AdmFubar: amazon and FB
06:01 DaemonFC; https://weather.com/news/climate/video/air-pollution-taking-two-years-from-global-life-expectancy-more-than-alcohol-or
06:01 TR Bot; Now More Unhealthy Than Smoking or Drinking - Videos from The Weather Channel | weather.com
06:01 schestowitz_TR2; they don't produce goods
06:01 DaemonFC; Mostly in overpopulated countries.
06:01 AdmFubar; right... and?
06:01 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: clickbait
06:02 DaemonFC; Stallman talked about crossing the road in New Delhi. I wouldn't even go there.
06:02 DaemonFC; Honestly, the crime, the pollution.
06:02 schestowitz_TR2; AdmFubar: those platforms are unsuitable for purchases
06:02 DaemonFC; The governments there should just pass out birth control or something.
06:03 DaemonFC; There's too many people. Bad things always happen when there's too many people.
06:03 DaemonFC; Some of them saw a clear day for the first time when their government mandated a COVID lockdown.
06:03 DaemonFC; It would look like that every day if there were half as many people living there.
06:04 TR News; "Even among Marx-friendly economists, the labor theory of value has fallen out of favor. But its technical validity is less important than the core message: workers are exploited because the value they create is undemocratically taken by capitalists." https://jacobin.com/2022/06/karl-marx-labor-theory-of-value-ga-cohen-economics/
06:04 TR Bot; Karl Marx Was Right: Workers Are Systematically Exploited Under Capitalism
06:04 DaemonFC; Instead of the government taking on debt to buy them tea, they should take on some debt to buy them condoms and Ortho Tri-Cyclen.
06:05 DaemonFC; I think it's pretty disgustine here in Waukegan when we get some smog occasionally that's pretty light and lifts after an hour or so.
06:05 DaemonFC; *disgusting
06:05 TR News; ...greenwashing garbage. EVs are not green and "green" cars are basically a paradox. https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/plug-in-car-grant-scrapped-everything-you-need-to-know-a5KWa8D4ypex
06:05 TR Bot; Plug-in car grant scrapped: everything you need to know - Which? News
06:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, My ideal future would be to move to some sparsely populated area where people go away and leave you alone.
06:05 DaemonFC; Maybe Wyoming?
06:06 DaemonFC; I don't know. We'll look into that after this immigration shit is over with.
06:06 DaemonFC; Moving somewhere where they have freedom, clean air, and lots of space.
06:06 TR News; Dreaming to join a country that hates them so very much https://www.vox.com/23169861/daca-immigration-dreamer-democrats-united-we-dream
06:06 TR Bot; is 10 years old. Whats next for immigrant activists? - Vox
06:06 DaemonFC; The Supreme Court might have boxed themselves in on DACA.
06:07 DaemonFC; They made the ruling in the recent Patel case that the federal courts can't review executive decisions on immigration.
06:07 DaemonFC; If that's true, it's safe as long as we don't get another Trump.
06:07 DaemonFC; It could turn into another Mexico City Policy.
06:11 DaemonFC; I'm not certain whether the Republican Party has gone somewhere where all we can get is another Trump.
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06:17 AdmFubar; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/michigan-starts-dismantling-its-forfeiture-reforms-to-make-it-easier-to-steal-cash-from-people-at-airports/
06:17 TR Bot; Starts Dismantling Its Forfeiture Reforms To Make It Easier To Steal Cash From People At Airports | Techdirt
06:27 DaemonFC; https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/oregon-state-officials-dump-al-tool-used-to-initiate-child-welfare-investigations/
06:27 TR Bot; State Officials Dump Al Tool Used To Initiate Child Welfare Investigations | Techdirt
06:27 DaemonFC; There was a case a few months ago in Waukegan where a black kid called 911 to report his mother for beating him.
06:28 DaemonFC; Then the police showed up and the mother attacked the police.
06:29 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/06/17/marengo-man-sentenced-to-45-days-of-periodic-imprisonment-for-sexually-abusing-young-child/
06:29 TR Bot; Marengo man sentenced to 45 days of periodic imprisonment for sexually abusing young child
06:29 DaemonFC; Democrat judges be like...
06:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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07:05 matey; worse yet, this will be spun as "Republicans versus Democrats" isue <- eventually both parties will lose so much stock theyll have to change their game
07:05 matey; i still know people who fall for it of course
07:05 matey; not many, theyre usually boring
07:05 matey; im not suggestions this is a route to a better future
07:05 matey; just one step closer to the end of the biparty bullshit
07:06 matey; all we know about it is that its not susstainable
07:06 matey; we dont know how long this bullshit will go on
07:10 TR News; "The FSA said the potential presence of small pieces of glass means they are unsafe to eat." Chickens dying in vain because of low quality control by greedy firms. https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/morrisons-recalls-chicken-products-that-may-contain-glass-asPoQ8e6Xz5Z
07:10 TR Bot; Morrisons recalls chicken products that may contain glass - Which? News
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07:11 schestowitz_TR2; matey: ore people got tired of it
07:11 schestowitz_TR2; when you talk about an issue
07:11 schestowitz_TR2; and that's spun as you support party x or party y
07:11 schestowitz_TR2; *More
07:12 schestowitz_TR2; the goal is to muzzle and neutralise criticism
07:12 schestowitz_TR2; from either "wing"
07:12 TR News; Using GNU/linux on a smartphone, 5 years of experimentation Using linux on a smartphone, 5 years of experimentation
07:13 TR News; Using GNU/linux on a smartphone, 5 years of experimentation gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/mobile-linux
07:14 TR News; New in Gemini: The Magic Shop by H. G. Wells The Magic Shop
07:14 TR News; New in Gemini: The Magic Shop by H. G. Wells gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Magic_Shop.gmi
07:17 TR News; "My dad, Rudra Pandey, is the most fervent cheerleader whether the wins are big or small. He was as excited when I landed my first job as he was when I told him I raised my hand to answer a discussion question in third-grade social studies" https://www.axios.com/2022/06/15/axios-finish-line-what-did-you-learn-from-dad-fathers-day
07:17 TR Bot; Finish Line: What did you learn from dad?
07:17 matey; the goal is to muzzle and neutralise criticism <- thats the main purpose the parties serve
07:17 matey; originally or otherwise, its their primary function now
07:18 matey; rep and dem serve the same corporations
07:18 TR News; Using Netgraph for FreeBSDs bhyve Networking https://klarasystems.com/articles/using-netgraph-for-freebsds-bhyve-networking/
07:18 TR Bot; Using Netgraph for FreeBSDsBhyve Networking | Klara Inc.
07:18 matey; osi and fsf serve the same corporations (ibm microsoft google others)
07:20 TR News; "HAMMER2 is intended to be a multi-master file system..." ICBM and Microsoft heads explode at "multi-master" https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2022/06/15/27062.html
07:20 TR Bot; Two versions, both right DragonFly BSD Digest
07:21 matey; games are getting ridiculous
07:21 matey; theres a "game" where you operate a power washer
07:21 matey; pressure washer-- like a high powered hose for cleaning houses/drives
07:22 matey; thats the game
07:22 matey; theres a thing in the upper right that shows how much money youve made
07:22 schestowitz_TR2; computer game?
07:22 matey; yeah
07:22 schestowitz_TR2; weird
07:22 schestowitz_TR2; I remember sium city
07:22 schestowitz_TR2; it was a fun game
07:22 schestowitz_TR2; took into account limitations of computers
07:22 schestowitz_TR2; compensated with good gameplay
07:23 matey; i mean there was a mcdonalds but that game was meant to show that mcdonalds hates people (animals, customers, etc)
07:23 schestowitz_TR2; then there was also theme park (sim)
07:23 schestowitz_TR2; and variuous others
07:23 matey; this one you aim a pressure washer at a house
07:23 schestowitz_TR2; now there are many for hospitals, parenting etc.
07:23 matey; and clean it
07:23 matey; the guy on youtube
07:23 matey; you know how people write "wash me" and other things on dirty cars
07:23 schestowitz_TR2; clean the guy on youtube
07:23 matey; he did a dick on the top of a house
07:24 schestowitz_TR2; with a pressure washer
07:24 matey; then he knocked a lawn gnome over
07:24 matey; but i mean
07:24 schestowitz_TR2; pressure washer vandalism isn't novel
07:24 schestowitz_TR2; like drawing obscene things
07:25 schestowitz_TR2; by "cleaning"
07:25 matey; well its certainly harmles
07:25 matey; dirty cleaning!
07:25 schestowitz_TR2; not really
07:25 schestowitz_TR2; they say it is cleaning
07:25 matey; who does it harm?
07:25 schestowitz_TR2; but selectively
07:25 schestowitz_TR2; I saw some things like this online a decade ago
07:25 matey; im still talking about the simulation
07:25 matey; i dont even kwow if this is multiplayer
07:25 matey; i think its like an app
07:26 schestowitz_TR2; a lot of 'art' defaces public spaces
07:26 matey; simulation
07:26 schestowitz_TR2; ah, OK
07:26 schestowitz_TR2; yoiu said guy on youtube
07:26 matey; thats whats funny about it
07:26 matey; someone made a "pressure washer" app/"game"
07:26 schestowitz_TR2; so I assume someone had a channel when he goes around doing obscene things for "likes"
07:26 matey; i dunno, it could be a one-off
07:27 schestowitz_TR2; it's dumb to make a game about it
07:27 matey; its certainly odd
07:27 schestowitz_TR2; games are for fantasyyyyyyyyyyyy
07:27 matey; i mean no reason you shouldnt but
07:27 schestowitz_TR2; swords, wars, building cities
07:27 matey; toilet cleaner rampage!
07:27 schestowitz_TR2; spraying cars with waters is anticlimatic
07:27 matey; "how many toilets did you get"
07:27 schestowitz_TR2; yeah, a game for janittors
07:28 schestowitz_TR2; scrubsscrubsscrubs
07:28 matey; "oh man, i did the may day bonanza, i couldnt get past level 3"
07:28 matey; lots of games have pointless grinding
07:28 schestowitz_TR2; probably m"apps" not a game
07:28 matey; but this is sort of a comical version of that
07:28 schestowitz_TR2; "apps" are a whole new category of BS
07:28 schestowitz_TR2; like an "app" that just displays steps
07:29 schestowitz_TR2; or an "app" that just calculates something
07:29 matey; step 1: cut a hole in the box
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07:29 schestowitz_TR2; there are too many "apps"
07:29 schestowitz_TR2; low quality, more "apps" than pricks
07:29 schestowitz_TR2; you know, tuxamchines has an android app too
07:29 matey; i did know that
07:30 matey; my favourite "app" just stuffs hundreds of pages into a single page of html
07:30 matey; then lets you "navigate" it
07:30 schestowitz_TR2; common issue: compat
07:30 schestowitz_TR2; with software, things stop working faster
07:30 schestowitz_TR2; than with computers in gheneral
07:30 matey; well if its done in vanilla js
07:31 schestowitz_TR2; with apps it's even worse
07:31 matey; crapps
07:31 schestowitz_TR2; as they release a new version of android and ios every year
07:31 schestowitz_TR2; anbd then deprecate a bunch of stuff
07:31 matey; android is pretty much dead to me
07:31 schestowitz_TR2; then they call installing stuff "sideloading"
07:31 matey; heres what happens every time i get an android device
07:31 matey; 1. its used / cheaper
07:31 matey; 2. i root it and remove all the shit
07:31 schestowitz_TR2; so as to encourae people to ONLY install what Pentagon contractors have approved
07:32 matey; 3. i put my favourite stuff from fdroid on it
07:32 matey; 4. i dont use any of it except the better keyboard and do everything with the browser (cgi-bin, server on network, js stuff like that)
07:32 schestowitz_TR2; btw, weatehr apps and typically malware
07:32 matey; 5. i get bored then i dont do anything on android for 2 more years
07:32 schestowitz_TR2; not many people talk about it
07:32 schestowitz_TR2; they spy
07:33 matey; well yeah
07:33 matey; so basically ill get an android device
07:33 matey; use it for a week or two
07:33 matey; then nothing on android for 2 more years
07:33 matey; worthless
07:33 matey; and no matter what i install i only use the browser anyway
07:33 matey; worthless
07:33 matey; i dont even like touchscreens
07:33 schestowitz_TR2; there is one upside
07:33 schestowitz_TR2; not for me
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; lots of productivity sank
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; people I know sit on the toilet "working"
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; if course not much gets done
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; or sit in some pew somewhere else
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; conflating scrolling with "work"
07:34 matey; i bet they have parentheses on their bum { } from the seat
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; or notifications with productivity
07:34 matey; ( )
07:34 schestowitz_TR2; meanwhile some of us actually do "get shit done"
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; touchscreens are good
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; but overused
07:35 matey; theyre annoying
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; I first used one int eh 90s
07:35 matey; they have their place i guess
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; back then the touchscreens were worse
07:35 matey; but id rather not use them
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; the sensitivity and all
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; and single touch
07:35 schestowitz_TR2; but in a museum touchscreens are good
07:35 matey; yeah i had a few shit touchscreens
07:36 schestowitz_TR2; also, they don't tire the arm
07:36 schestowitz_TR2; you just click ehre there and move on
07:36 schestowitz_TR2; touchscreens have ergonomic issues
07:36 schestowitz_TR2; did you ever play those arcade games with pistols made of plastic?
07:36 schestowitz_TR2; try playing those games for an hour
07:37 matey; www.wired.com/2010/10/gorilla-arm-multitouch/
07:37 matey; Researchers have documented usability problems with vertical touch surfaces for decades. "Gorilla arm" is a term engineers coined about 30 years ago to describe what happens when people try to use...
07:37 schestowitz_TR2; even 10 minutss is a stretch
07:37 schestowitz_TR2; 3d mice also
07:37 schestowitz_TR2; attemptsd before
07:37 matey; heh
07:37 schestowitz_TR2; if you life the mouse for a long time, you will get tired
07:37 schestowitz_TR2; and spend all the enrgy fitghing off the pain
07:37 schestowitz_TR2; wrist fatigue
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; 3 mice = 90
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; 1990s
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; VR has nausea issues
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; I tried VR for 30 minutes or so in 2016
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; felt ill the rest oif the day
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; it was not even very vibrant a simulation, relativelyt static
07:38 schestowitz_TR2; and high-quality VR
07:38 matey; tim says gorilla arm "
07:38 matey; "myth
07:38 matey; techland.time.com/2012/12/10/touchscreens-and-the-myth-of-windows-8-gorilla-arm/
07:39 matey; Gorilla Arm is a term that has come about in reference to more traditional PC computing form factors, like desktops and notebooks, when such form factors have touch features that leave the user...
07:39 matey; but scientific american doesnt www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-touch-screens-will-not-take-over/
07:39 matey; I'll tell you why not: because of "gorilla arm.". There are three big differences between these handy touch screens and a PC's screen: angle, distance and time interval. The screen of a phone ...
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; I didn't know it had a name for it
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; good to know
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; so one can communicate these issues better
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; VR is a new name now
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; AR = where they add some crap with input from cameras
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; and "verse"
07:39 schestowitz_TR2; all sorts of "verses"
07:40 schestowitz_TR2; remarketing and reparceling old failing shiote
07:40 schestowitz_TR2; becauseZuck could not fake growrth by penetrating africa and china
07:40 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_arm#%22Gorilla_arm%22
07:40 TR Bot; Touchscreen - Wikipedia
07:40 schestowitz_TR2; Touchscreen are f*ing awful
07:40 schestowitz_TR2; for most things
07:40 matey; Extended use of gestural interfaces without the ability of the user to rest their arm is referred to as "gorilla arm".[92] It can result in fatigue, and even repetitive stress injury when routinely used in a work setting. Certain early pen-based interfaces required the operator to work in this position for much of the workday.[93] Allowing the user to rest their hand or arm on the input device or a frame around it is a solution for this in many contexts
07:40 schestowitz_TR2; for phones too
07:40 schestowitz_TR2; in my palm pda I use a pen-like input device or could use the tip of my finger
07:40 matey; Touchscreen are f*ing awful for most things <- yes
07:41 matey; for phones too <- imo yes
07:41 schestowitz_TR2; stylus
07:41 schestowitz_TR2; graffiti is still support, not graffiti 2, which is awful
07:41 schestowitz_TR2; graffiti 2 exists onl;y because of sofwtare patenbtsa
07:41 schestowitz_TR2; and xerox "enforcing" them
07:41 matey; this thing needs a pressure washer dick washed onto it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IPad_with_extensive_fingerprints_and_smudges.jpg
07:41 TR Bot; File:IPad with extensive fingerprints and smudges.jpg - Wikipedia
07:42 oarion7; join #techbytes
07:42 oarion7; oops
07:42 matey; where did they find that? in a kitchen that makes nothing but pastry and cheese?
07:42 schestowitz_TR2; they make pinch to zoom looks liek AMMMMMMAZZZING Appple INNOVA~1
07:42 schestowitz_TR2; they have a drunk army of shills
07:42 oarion7; 2 mistakes in one there
07:42 schestowitz_TR2; you use two-touch
07:42 schestowitz_TR2; not even multi-touch, just pair
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; and then shrinking the ddinstance to zoom in
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; or vice versa to zoom out
07:43 oarion7; this kb puts forward slash in weird place and i thought from memory there was a channel by that name
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; how is that innovation
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; it's basic geometry
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; you should not have to zoom ina nd out
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; unless your screen is far too small
07:43 schestowitz_TR2; in which case you have a screen size problem
07:44 TR News; "This weeks BSD Now is depressingly honest in the title; no puns. Along with the normal links, theres a Beastie Bit this week for Networks From Scratch." https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2022/06/16/27067.html
07:44 TR Bot; BSD Now 459: NetBSD Kernel benchmark DragonFly BSD Digest
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; matey: let me put it crudely like this
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; when you and I gre up the futgure of tech was promising
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; in the 1990s they showed cars driving on their own
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; in a carefully controlled env
07:45 *pav5088 has quit (Quit: Leaving)
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; we're not progressed since there
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; not even with lidar
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; and it's not hard to see why it'll never be as good as a human driver
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; vr failed
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; 3d mice failed
07:45 schestowitz_TR2; 3d displays failed
07:46 schestowitz_TR2; we always fell back on the old stuff
07:46 matey; 3d desktops though!
07:46 matey; /me 6 thumbs up
07:46 schestowitz_TR2; we got faster procesror by ignoring energy constraints
07:46 schestowitz_TR2; and makign tings smaller and smaller with more transistors
07:46 schestowitz_TR2; we could use as few transisitors as before
07:46 schestowitz_TR2; just make them take less power and physical space
07:47 matey; turns out tech utopia is more of a fruitopia
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; but now you have "chat" software that takes 200MB just to get starter
07:47 matey; i still like tech... but when its reasonable
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; it should take 200 KILObytes
07:47 matey; which is frankly an exception to the rule
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; <matey> 3d desktops though!
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; compiz
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; beryl
07:47 matey; ive been helping people set up chat servers for themselves
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; looking glass
07:47 schestowitz_TR2; they all pretty much fail
07:47 matey; i encourage someh4x0r to do the same
07:48 matey; that is help people set them up
07:48 schestowitz_TR2; gnome 3 and kwin (and its fork) just adopt a few minnimalist elemnts of these
07:48 schestowitz_TR2; they are nice to look at, but of no practical value
07:48 schestowitz_TR2; compositing also
07:48 matey; compositing, RARELY, has practical value
07:48 matey; mostly its for fun
07:48 schestowitz_TR2; visual
07:48 schestowitz_TR2; like fonr hinting
07:48 schestowitz_TR2; *font
07:49 matey; font hinting is fucking nice
07:49 schestowitz_TR2; and making windows edges "Seem" nicer
07:49 schestowitz_TR2; computationally not expensive
07:49 schestowitz_TR2; the GPU takes the brunt
07:49 schestowitz_TR2; so in a sense that takes up more energy
07:49 schestowitz_TR2; compositing of layers in real time
07:50 schestowitz_TR2; you really need to see a 2002 GNU/Linux desktop to appreciate the differences
07:50 matey; when we used to want specs and benchmarks on these things
07:50 matey; we went to phoronix
07:50 matey; now its owned by amd
07:50 matey; so thats out
07:50 schestowitz_TR2; not amd
07:50 schestowitz_TR2; several sponsors
07:50 schestowitz_TR2; amd is a big one
07:50 schestowitz_TR2; it's like "diamond sponsor"
07:50 schestowitz_TR2; so it gets "priority"
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; he could make a page of disclosure
07:51 matey; you really need to see a 2002 GNU/Linux desktop to appreciate the differences <- i tried red hat and mandrake in 2002
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; with a list of gifts
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; like:
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; Intel: 64 chips
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; AMD: 180 chips
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; Qualcommn: 1 chip
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; System76: 2 laptops
07:51 matey; i tried those (old isos) again in 2015ish
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; that kind of thing
07:51 schestowitz_TR2; it'll help explain the eidotrial choices
07:52 matey; yeah its the least he could do
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; watch how hard it shilled clearlinux
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; not a single person agve a shit about clearlinux
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; and it more or less died
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; or is dead in the water
07:52 fuzzy; if you pick a decent font then xterm doesn't look any different since 2002
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; people asked me
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; privatelyy
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; why phoronix kept pushing it
07:52 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zBRpW5sEvJk
07:52 TR Bot; Bill Hicks - Corporate Shills - Invidious
07:52 schestowitz_TR2; even mirosoft gets many fluff pieces there... stuff nobody uses or cares about
07:53 schestowitz_TR2; fuzzy: some fonts use good glyphs
07:53 schestowitz_TR2; that can also slow the system doiwn
07:53 matey; since sco, microsoft has been referencing data from other sources they gave to those sources
07:54 matey; gartner
07:54 *schestowitz_TR2 checks ram usage in xfce4...
07:54 schestowitz_TR2; 730 MB
07:54 schestowitz_TR2; 16 applications open
07:54 schestowitz_TR2; dual head, with wallpapers
07:55 schestowitz_TR2; +panel and full transulency everywhere
07:55 schestowitz_TR2; a boss of mine argued with me that a POC shoulds have at least 8 GB of RAM
07:55 schestowitz_TR2; of course he's dumb
07:55 schestowitz_TR2; we argued about bloated shit they want us to use
07:55 schestowitz_TR2; to him, self-hosting is "hobbyist"
07:56 schestowitz_TR2; when in fact the opposite is true
07:56 schestowitz_TR2; outsourcing is hobbyist
07:56 schestowitz_TR2; opening an account somewhere versus building your stuff
07:56 schestowitz_TR2; no wonder he cannot attract any decent clients anymore
07:56 schestowitz_TR2; and we want to leave
07:57 schestowitz_TR2; problem is, I cannot find a more convenient job right now
07:57 schestowitz_TR2; need to put up with occasional crap, but... at least I can speak out and evnt out
07:57 schestowitz_TR2; you cannot do this when you are new at a company
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; give me 7-14 days, we'll know what happens next
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; I asked for part time
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; companies do not like part timers
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; stupoid, I know
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; better from a tax perspective
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; and they get to keep more staff with more skill
07:58 matey; but they want people who are part of the "culture"
07:58 schestowitz_TR2; when I was a phd student I asked my supervisor about part time postdoc
07:59 matey; "he will make an excellent drone"
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; he said no such thing was possible
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; they perceive part time as something they are less able to exploit
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; because of various factors
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; which on the surfave makes sense
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; but less fatigue for workers
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; so it's all or nothing
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; my sister tried the same
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; GE said no
07:59 schestowitz_TR2; all or nothing
08:00 schestowitz_TR2; it's something about controlling you "100% of the time"
08:00 schestowitz_TR2; and having you work overtime, too
08:00 matey; they dont want to spend more time training
08:00 schestowitz_TR2; it's about control
08:00 schestowitz_TR2; not just trianing
08:00 schestowitz_TR2; it took me a while to understand their thinkiong
08:00 schestowitz_TR2; it's somethjing like this:
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; we train you, you get experienced
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; then you become more productive (per time unit)
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; so then we want you working for us 40 or more hours a week
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; for them, two people working 20 hours each is "worse"
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; because each is considered "less able"
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; even if there are unique skills
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; they don't view it that way
08:01 schestowitz_TR2; they want "factory floor" mindsets
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; where you do one thing snd do it werll, repatedly
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; no room for creativity
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; or lateral thinking
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; and they then accusee the victims of "great resignation"
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; many people DO resign
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; but die tio mistreatment by management
08:02 schestowitz_TR2; of course far more people are laid or OR driven out then actually resign
08:03 schestowitz_TR2; ICBM lays off HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of workers
08:03 schestowitz_TR2; call that "great reignation" is an insult to the victims' intelligence
08:03 schestowitz_TR2; guess who they fire
08:03 schestowitz_TR2; the high-paid workers
08:03 schestowitz_TR2; who possess the most skills/experience
08:03 schestowitz_TR2; so they then moan about "skill shortage"
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; if true, which isn't the case, ti is a self-fulfilling prophecy
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; imposed by oneself
08:04 matey; where you do one thing snd do it werll, repatedly <- good for software
08:04 matey; people != software
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; yeah
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; grep, cat, sed
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; unix, gnu...
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; they always just work
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; even when you move from one system to ther next
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; efficiencies vary
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; but they generally work
08:04 schestowitz_TR2; likewise with some workers
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; but they treat people like cogwheels
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; "work animals" are "productive"
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; but they don't care about any other aspect
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; the new "rage" is,
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; call volunteers" or slaves other things
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; LF now promotes "open source" offices
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; or incubators
08:05 schestowitz_TR2; with community managers
08:06 schestowitz_TR2; community managers = staff (paid) that famrsa slaves
08:06 schestowitz_TR2; and gets them motivated to work for free
08:06 schestowitz_TR2; like Mark Shuttleworth of apartheid African used to do
08:06 matey; malcolm x called them house negroes
08:06 schestowitz_TR2; getting people excited about his distro
08:06 schestowitz_TR2; which now shills miocrosoft
08:06 matey; they got privileges for keeping the field negroes in line
08:07 schestowitz_TR2; <techrights-news> Canonical is 'doping' by propping up Microsoft, then wonders why so many Ubuntu users ditch for other distros https://ubuntu.com//blog/new-active-directory-integration-features-in-ubuntu-22-04-part-3-privilege-management
08:07 TR Bot; Active Directory Integration features in Ubuntu 22.04 (part 3) Privilege Management | Ubuntu
08:07 matey; they lived in the masters house, ate the masters food
08:07 matey; still slaves
08:07 matey; but house slaves
08:07 schestowitz_TR2; ubutnu is losing users fast
08:07 schestowitz_TR2; games, artists, geeks
08:07 matey; a higher class of slave
08:07 schestowitz_TR2; ubuntu is rightly perceived as a loser's choice
08:07 matey; the sort that have taken over the free software movement
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; yeah
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; we need to talk about it
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; recommended: yo should use the forbidden words
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; not to provoke
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; but to keep them permissible
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; or else we lose vobabulary
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; self-0censorship, fear
08:08 schestowitz_TR2; github=sharecropping
08:09 schestowitz_TR2; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharecropping
08:09 TR Bot; Sharecropping - Wikipedia
08:09 schestowitz_TR2; Ubuntu "community" = serfs of billionaire South African
08:09 schestowitz_TR2; Twitter "users" = serfs of billionaire South African
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; we need to call spades what they are
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; freenode was always run by volunteers
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; even if they call themselves staff
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; with donated servers
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; mostly from academia
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; that was fine
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; PIA = dodgy corporaton
08:10 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NodhbUva7Zc
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; so there was already unease at what christel had done
08:10 TR Bot; spitting image I've never met a nice south African - Invidious
08:10 schestowitz_TR2; she sold a volunteer operation to a coreporaton
08:11 schestowitz_TR2; not sure how that works...
08:11 schestowitz_TR2; I met a nice south Africa in Oxford
08:11 schestowitz_TR2; he had a disability
08:11 schestowitz_TR2; usually those epople are nicer
08:11 matey; i still like dave matthews
08:11 schestowitz_TR2; we greeted and wecomed RMS there
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; his g/f wasd nice too
08:12 matey; but the song was a poke at apartheid
08:12 matey; from years ago
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; RMS was not particularly polite towards her
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; I once had a boss from South Africsn
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; Tyrell
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; nice guy
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; the ones I know, who moved to England, are very nice people
08:12 matey; yeah i dont think they intend it to be taken literally
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; very sociable
08:12 matey; theyre british
08:12 matey; they did a music video for genesis
08:12 schestowitz_TR2; maybe they left SA because they didn't fit in
08:13 schestowitz_TR2; living in SA toghens you up
08:13 schestowitz_TR2; all the violence
08:13 schestowitz_TR2; *toughens
08:13 schestowitz_TR2; not just SA
08:13 schestowitz_TR2; people who come from aggressive counties are hard-headed
08:13 matey; i read several books written by a south african this year
08:14 matey; stallman is from boston, or new york?
08:14 matey; either way...
08:14 schestowitz_TR2; Americana,, Ukrainians, Russians, Israelis, North Africans..
08:14 schestowitz_TR2; people became vengeful due tio their personal experiences
08:14 schestowitz_TR2; esp. if they saw dead bodies growing up
08:14 schestowitz_TR2; RMS is from NYC
08:14 schestowitz_TR2; he went to MIT for studying
08:15 matey; first harvard
08:15 schestowitz_TR2; I remember that, yes
08:15 matey; mit made it easier to get computer time
08:15 schestowitz_TR2; Boston is a diploma mill city
08:15 matey; he was actually in a physics class with bill gates
08:15 schestowitz_TR2; a "pretigious" diploma mill city
08:15 matey; he could have gone on to teach physics at harvard
08:15 matey; but he preferred computers
08:16 matey; he did very well at physics though
08:16 matey; i dont think many people know he would have made a good physicist
08:16 matey; they think hes just some computer nerd
08:16 schestowitz_TR2; the two disciplines used to be overlapping ones
08:16 fuzzy; in recent weeks, my scepticism towards GNU increased, that much i began to remove components when those are labeled GNU
08:16 fuzzy; for technical reasons
08:16 schestowitz_TR2; still, electric engineering and hardware are
08:16 matey; sure
08:16 schestowitz_TR2; now even sofwtare is nto sofwtare
08:16 schestowitz_TR2; but APIs and "frameworks"
08:17 schestowitz_TR2; fuzzy:what do you use instead? bsd equivalents?
08:17 schestowitz_TR2; or the rubbish from MS GitHub?
08:17 schestowitz_TR2; with non-reciprocal licenses slapped on?
08:18 fuzzy; schestowitz_TR2: suckless.org is inspirational with some of their work; and various components are licensed MIT
08:19 TR News; How to play the first text adventure game... in style. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/how-to-play-the-first-text-adventure Source: lunduke
08:19 TR Bot; How to play the first text adventure game... in style.
08:19 schestowitz_TR2; suckless is amazing
08:20 schestowitz_TR2; but it does not have replacements for all gnu bits
08:20 schestowitz_TR2; also, gnu is already suckless
08:20 schestowitz_TR2; would you say car or cp or mv are suckful [sic]?
08:20 fuzzy; for me, suckless.org ist not sufficiently radical with their approach, too much compromise
08:21 fuzzy; didn't verify yet the suckless ubase/sbase implemenation to replace coreutils
08:21 matey; gnu is already suckless <- its really not
08:21 matey; suckless follows the unix philosophy
08:21 matey; gnu started with that by default and ran headlong away from it
08:22 TR News; "This chat lead to the inevitable topic of that time someone wrote an uninstaller that did something like "rm -rf $THING/", and sometimes $THING" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/06/16/rce/ | Source: Rachel
08:22 TR Bot; Free associating from 'df' to RCE
08:22 matey; this is why gnu wont be salvaged
08:22 matey; but it would be nice if they did
08:22 matey; heres the problem
08:22 fuzzy; GNU damaged their own compiler
08:22 TR News; "In doing some research for an upcoming live stream I was looking at the Northwind OData v4 service" https://qmacro.org/blog/posts/2022/06/16/summing-and-grouping-values-with-jq/ | Source: DJ Adams
08:22 TR Bot; Summing and grouping values with jq | DJ Adams
08:22 fuzzy; ireversibly
08:22 matey; no they outsourced
08:22 TR News; "Here is a way to get a high-quality PNG image with R: save it as SVG first, then convert the SVG file to a PNG file" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/svg-to-png/ | Source: Rlang
08:22 TR Bot; to PNG | R-bloggers
08:22 matey; also try bootstrapping llvm
08:23 matey; gcc has advantages still, pity that ibm controls it
08:23 fuzzy; pity that IBM destroyed it
08:23 schestowitz_TR2; same issue with linux
08:23 matey; a story techrights continues to downplay like the did for 10 years while mincer warned them about systemd
08:23 schestowitz_TR2; too much focus on instant gratification with corporate support?
08:23 schestowitz_TR2; 500,000 lines of code for your new hardware? MERGED!
08:23 schestowitz_TR2; "success"
08:23 schestowitz_TR2; then come the holes and technical debt
08:24 matey; i dont know if ibm destroyed it, only that llvm is harder to bootstrap than gcc
08:24 matey; and that ibm has interest in controlling gcc at the fsfs expense (expense of control, not of cash)
08:24 matey; (they have purchased it)
08:24 fuzzy; didn't verify yet on whose payroll the developers were
08:24 matey; its red hat
08:25 matey; all over the place its red hat
08:25 matey; with a little google
08:25 schestowitz_TR2; and suse
08:25 schestowitz_TR2; lots of suse in gcc
08:25 matey; dont know about suse
08:25 matey; okay
08:25 schestowitz_TR2; mind the addresses of announcements
08:25 matey; ill see if i can spot them
08:25 matey; the coup had more debian, and at least as much gnome as red hat
08:25 matey; but for gcc its more red hat
08:26 TR News; "The 6502 on Commodore machines shares the clock with the video chip." https://imapenguin.com/how-fast-can-a-6502-transfer-memory/ |
08:26 TR Bot; How fast can a 6502 transfer memory
08:26 matey; but subtract the coup and maybe suse is in there
08:26 matey; i never noticed
08:26 matey; because i never followed gcc development
08:26 matey; only the coup
08:26 TR News; "When competing against a cloud hyperscaler, a database is an excellent place to start" https://matt-rickard.com/convergence-of-dbaas-and-baas/ | Source: Matt Rickard
08:26 TR Bot; Convergence of DBaaS and BaaS
08:26 matey; suse does not seem heavily involved there
08:27 matey; i only know one person (close to rms) who did more analysis than i did
08:27 matey; and they found loads of debian
08:27 matey; i found more debian than any other group
08:27 TR News; "The blog, which remains online, but hasnt been updated since 2014, was published under the title Ulrich Richter Morales y sus chingaderas a la patria (Ulrich Richter Morales and his despicable deeds against the homeland)" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/google-ordered-to-pay-4-billion-pesos-for-2015-defamation-of-lawyer/ | Source: Mexico News Daily
08:27 TR Bot; Google ordered to pay 4 billion pesos for 2015 defamation of lawyer
08:27 matey; but when it comes to gcc im not sure debian is a major player
08:27 TR News; "The suit, which Mr. Lloyd filed in August in California Superior Court, accuses Google and ASG of violating a California employment law that protects workers against discrimination." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/16/technology/google-fellowship-of-friends-sect.html | Source: New York Times
08:27 TR Bot; How a Religious Sect Landed Google in a Lawsuit - The New York Times
08:27 matey; thats ibm/red hat
08:27 matey; and david malcolm
08:28 matey; among others
08:28 schestowitz_TR2; there are many DDs
08:28 schestowitz_TR2; used to be like a thousand
08:28 matey; ibm guy using github to document gcc like the official docs are "legacy"
08:28 matey; very sleazy
08:28 schestowitz_TR2; not sure how many if DMs are counted too
08:28 schestowitz_TR2; also, Debian devs can speak more openly
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; if you work for SUSE and support RMS, you cannot speak out
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; you might get in trouble
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; I know this because someone told me
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; the emnployers gagn the staff
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; and issue eollective statement
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; only non-tech suits make those statements
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; they don't ask their staff
08:29 schestowitz_TR2; see SUSE (SAP)
08:30 *fuzzy gets some booze from the fridge
08:30 schestowitz_TR2; must be hot there
08:30 schestowitz_TR2; early for booze :-)
08:30 fuzzy; arctic premium vodka, 5fold distilled
08:30 TR News; "In part 5, we presented the weighted inclusive Gregory method." https://yingtongli.me/blog/2022/06/16/stv-primer-6.html | Source: Lee Yingtong Li
08:30 TR Bot; A conceptual primer on the single transferable vote 6: Meek method
08:30 fuzzy; sadly, i emptied almost the entire bottle yesterday already
08:31 schestowitz_TR2; we have some vodka here
08:31 fuzzy; the BoJo would be proud
08:31 schestowitz_TR2; bought 4 litres of lemonade for ut hours ago
08:31 schestowitz_TR2; but weather forecasts were wrong, noiheat wave here
08:31 schestowitz_TR2; BoJo needs to be reinfected
08:32 schestowitz_TR2; and repent
08:32 TR News; "The journalists pulled Chartmetric data from as many playlists archiving TikTok viral hits as they could find." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/06/17/what-happens-after-a-tiktok-video-goes-viral/ | Source: Digital Music News
08:32 TR Bot; What Happens After a TikTok Video Goes Viral?
08:33 fuzzy; next on my TODO: removal of the entire gentoo tooling
08:33 TR News; Science as it used to be, prior to privatisation by non-tech tycoons and frauds https://theconversation.com/the-james-webb-space-telescope-is-finally-ready-to-do-science-and-its-seeing-the-universe-more-clearly-than-even-its-own-engineers-hoped-for-184989 | Source: The Conversation
08:33 TR Bot; The James Webb Space Telescope is finally ready to do science and its seeing the universe more clearly than even its own engineers hoped for
08:34 fuzzy; which is, i hope, a posix shell suffices... suckless.org got some templates to track dependencies and package installations
08:34 fuzzy; bashism
08:35 fuzzy; anyway, the way suckless components are compiled and installed is rather pleasent
08:35 TR News; Long COVID https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/06/long-covid-chronic-illness-disability/661285/ | Source: The Atlantic
08:35 TR Bot; Long COVID Could Be a Mass Deterioration Event - The Atlantic
08:35 fuzzy; and consistent, doesn't require any GNU autotools
08:35 fuzzy; typically, there is a conf.h, a makefile, git clone, make install, done
08:36 fuzzy; if need be, CC points to a cross-compiler or something
08:36 TR News; Pulling MikroTik into the Limelight https://margin.re/blog/pulling-mikrotik-into-the-limelight.aspx | Source: Margin Research
08:36 TR Bot; Pulling MikroTik into the Limelight | Margin Research
08:36 fuzzy; a bliss
08:37 TR News; Taiwan to reliant on the Empire of Surveillance https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4573235 | Source: Taiwan News
08:37 TR Bot; Taiwan to discuss 5G with Microsoft, Google, Amazon | Taiwan News | 2022-06-17 16:14:00
08:37 matey; gnu autotools = perl
08:37 TR News; "This weeks show kicks off with another look at Rings potential to become a surveillance tool" https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-senator-calls-out-video-doorbells-again/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
08:37 TR Bot; Podcast: Senator calls out video doorbells ... again - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
08:38 fuzzy; yes, i noticed already, although i do not intend to remove perl, i didn't expect it was required to compile almost all GNU stuff
08:38 fuzzy; and python is creeping into, with gentoo, and in recent years with meson, i'll hack and slay this down one by one
08:39 matey; i didn't expect it was required to compile almost all GNU stuff <- this is one of the things that bothers me most
08:39 matey; entire gnu project depends on github
08:39 fuzzy; autotools?
08:39 matey; of course i dont know how entirely true that is
08:39 matey; one of my associates found a possible way around it
08:40 fuzzy; far more annoying; occasionally, i try to revive old software components with older autotools shipped
08:40 matey; at least an easier way to fork perl
08:40 fuzzy; matey: a way around autotools?
08:41 fuzzy; anyway, worst of all: GNU compiler damaged
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08:43 matey; anyway, worst of all: GNU compiler damaged <- by c++ you mean
08:43 matey; matey: a way around autotools? <- sadly no
08:44 fuzzy; damaged by: a shitload of extensions to support proprietary malicious hardware, damaged by c++, and the the autotools build of GCC is horrific too
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08:57 TR News; #HowTo Install ImageMagick 7 on Ubuntu/Debian Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166182
08:57 TR Bot; How to Install ImageMagick 7 on Ubuntu/Debian | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; This week in KDE: non-blurry XWayland apps! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166183
08:58 TR Bot; This week in KDE: non-blurry XWayland apps! | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; Android Platform Calendar Access Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166184
08:58 TR Bot; Android Platform Calendar Access | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166185
08:58 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
09:08 TR News; "But none of them went openly to the media. Sure, we remember the leaks to favored reporters at The Washington Post" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/january-6th-pence-eastman/ | Source: The Nation
09:08 TR Bot; To Avert January 6, We Needed Whistleblowersand We Never Got Them | The Nation
09:08 TR News; "What are all those streaks across the background? Satellite trails. [...]" https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap220614.html |
09:08 TR Bot; APOD: 2022 June 14 - Satellites Behind Pinnacles
09:09 TR News; GOPKK still allow to run for Office... the same office it was ATTACKING. Says a lot about US "democracy"....
09:10 TR News; "All three firms managed other peoples money." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/17/23172539/3ac-celsius-babel-crypto-loans-hedge-funds-uh-oh | Source: The Verge
09:10 TR Bot; Cryptocurrencys bad news week as told by Babel, Celsius, and Three Arrow Capital - The Verge
09:11 TR News; "The first thing you should do after installing a Proxmox server is to decide how to backup your proxmox containers and virtual machine" https://ostechnix.com/backup-proxmox-to-usb-drive/ | Source: OSTechNix
09:11 TR Bot; Proxmox Containers And VMs To USB Drive - OSTechNix
09:11 TR News; discord??????????????????????? https://news.opensuse.org/2022/06/17/ALP-Community-update/ |
09:11 TR Bot; Community work group update post oSC22 - openSUSE News
09:12 TR News; Formality is NOT security https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/common-security-advisory-framework-csaf-beta-files-now-available | Source: Red Hat Official
09:12 TR Bot; Common Security Advisory Framework (CSAF) beta files now available
09:13 TR News; "Deepin 20.6 released this June." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/download-deepin-206-with-mirrors.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
09:13 TR Bot; Download deepin 20.6 with Mirrors, Torrents, and Checksums
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09:14 TR News; "three models of Intels 11th Gen Tiger Lake H processor" = back doors https://linuxgizmos.com/ibase-launches-3-5-inch-sbc-with-tiger-lake-h-cpus-quad-displays-and-dual-gbe/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
09:14 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/ibase-launches-3-5-inch-sbc-with-tiger-lake-h-cpus-quad-displays-and-dual-gbe/ )
09:14 TR News; "Fixing the DMCA - with Nathan Proctor" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/fixing-the-dmca-with-nathan-proctor:3
09:14 TR Bot; Fixing the DMCA - with Nathan Proctor
09:15 TR News; Apple: Sideloading is the DEVIL! - by Bryan Lunduke https://lunduke.substack.com/p/apple-sideloading-is-the-devil Source: lunduke
09:15 TR Bot; Apple: Sideloading is the DEVIL! - by Bryan Lunduke
09:15 TR News; FSFE open letter: "The universal right to install any software on any device" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/fsfe-open-letter-the-universal-right Source: lunduke
09:15 TR Bot; FSFE open letter: "The universal right to install any software on any device"
09:16 TR News; EU... site blocked by javascript and barely functional at all https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_3664
09:16 TR Bot; Press corner | European Commission
09:16 TR News; iophk: "many countries run stupid PR campaigns to encourage reading instead of properly funding libraries and schools and staffing them with professionals" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&u=https://bibliotekettarsaka.com/2022/06/10/nei-til-fleire-lesekampanjar/
09:16 TR Bot; NEI til fleire lesekampanjar! | Biblioteket tar saka #librarycase
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09:18 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 17, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/irc-log-170622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/18/irc-log-170622/
09:18 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 17, 2022 | Techrights
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09:24 TR News; My week in KDE: Plasma, REUSE and Apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166183#comment-34049
09:24 TR Bot; This week in KDE: non-blurry XWayland apps! | Tux Machines
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09:27 TR News; To dispel a straw man, I never said AMD "owns" or controls Phoronix. Phoronix is controlled by several paying stakeholders, but AMD is the most odious example of this phenomenon. We need community-centric sites that track kernel patches and do benchmarks, not ones that prioritise Big Sponsors.
09:28 TR News; It's OK if AMD sends a CPU or two to Phoronix (for assessment purposes). But AMD went too far... looking like a MASSIVE bribe.
09:29 TR News; systemd76/hp have already seeded many fake reviews about their "Dev" laptop by bribing at least 8 prominent vloggers and bloggers. This is not helping anybody by them. It misinforms many.
09:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
09:30 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tTWwIgVH-Tc
09:30 TR Bot; Russia's Awful 'Social Media Replacements' - Invidious
09:31 TR News; Weather forecast yesterday: 31 degrees by noon! Did not happen. Even became cloudy and cold. Today a maximum of 16 degrees. 5G interferes with forecasting equipment, but if you say that (it's factual BTW) people make funny faces.
09:31 schestowitz_TR2; matey: anything that tried to do social control media is do it "right" is flawed
09:32 schestowitz_TR2; Russia would be wide tackling the modality
09:32 schestowitz_TR2; BTW, we have an article about it coming today
09:32 schestowitz_TR2; about how wikipedia has failed
09:33 matey; bahahahaha https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vENwllHqDIE
09:33 TR Bot; Russia's Most Bizarre Conspiracy - Invidious
09:33 TR News; "Ready for another turn-based RPG with some rogue-lite mechanics, with the addition of a pretty strange storyline?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/arthurian-legend-merged-with-sci-fi-horror-the-hand-of-merlin-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:33 TR Bot; legend merged with sci-fi horror, The Hand of Merlin is out now | GamingOnLinux
09:33 matey; anything that tried to do social control media is do it "right" is flawed <- well yeah hes making fun of "misguided" (thats putting it nicely) nationalist bullshit
09:34 schestowitz_TR2; matey: USA had a conspiracy theory about Saddam causing 9/11 and plotting to use secret super-lethal weapons...mnot scuds
09:34 matey; basically theres a ban so people are creating russian "friendly" alternatives
09:34 schestowitz_TR2; I'd suggest another approach
09:34 matey; USA had a conspiracy theory about Saddam causing 9/11 <- yes, and blair liked it too
09:34 schestowitz_TR2; but if you suggest anything to Russia you get painted traitor
09:34 schestowitz_TR2; for Russian PEOPLE
09:34 schestowitz_TR2; against their Putler in the Kremlin
09:35 matey; basically theres a ban so people are creating russian "friendly" alternatives <- I'd suggest another approach <- well the video is making fun of the whole thing
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09:35 TR News; "FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE has officially landed on Humble Store and Steam, and the good news is that it works on Linux plus it's Steam Deck Verified." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/final-fantasy-vii-remake-arrives-on-steam-m-plus-its-steam-deck-verified/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:35 TR Bot; FANTASY VII REMAKE arrives on Steam plus it's Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux
09:36 TR News; "GOG have put up another game on a free giveaway for 72 hours, this time it's the rather great looking sci-fi adventure BEAUTIFUL DESOLATION." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/get-a-copy-of-beautiful-desolation-free-in-the-gog-summer-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:36 TR Bot; a copy of BEAUTIFUL DESOLATION free in the GOG Summer Sale | GamingOnLinux
09:37 TR News; "antichrist" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/antichrist
09:37 TR News; Russian Spy Tried to Infiltrate The Hague as an Intern, Heres His Cover Story https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkgyg7/russian-spy-tried-to-infiltrate-the-hague-as-an-intern-heres-his-cover-letter Source: vice
09:37 TR Bot; Russian Spy Tried to Infiltrate The Hague as an Intern, Heres His Cover Story
09:37 TR News; Lithuanian parliament says Russia committing deportations and genocide in Ukraine - LRT https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1721314/lithuanian-parliament-says-russia-committing-deportations-and-genocide-in-ukraine Source: lrt
09:37 TR Bot; Lithuanian parliament says Russia committing deportations and genocide in Ukraine - LRT
09:37 matey; russias like "fine invade moscow napolean, it will all be burnt before you get there, eat a bag of dicks"
09:38 TR News; "An absolute gem of a game this and now perhaps a good time to go back and spend some proper time with it, as the rather large The Sunken Sea update is out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/core-keepers-first-major-update-the-sunken-sea-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:38 TR Bot; Keeper's first major update The Sunken Sea is out now | GamingOnLinux
09:38 TR News; "Got the need for speed? The F-14A Tomcat has landed in War Thunder with the major Danger Zone update out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/war-thunder-has-the-danger-zone-update-out-with-the-f-14a-tomcat/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:38 TR Bot; Thunder has the Danger Zone update out with the F-14A Tomcat | GamingOnLinux
09:38 TR News; "Epic Games just announced a big upgrade to Epic Online Services, which will now include a full toolkit to enable developers to do cross-play." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/epic-online-services-gets-free-cross-play-tooling-that-will-support-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
09:38 TR Bot; Online Services gets free cross-play tooling that will support Linux | GamingOnLinux
09:38 matey; possibly where cajun cooking got its start from
09:39 schestowitz_TR2; putin and napoleon arre simialr
09:39 schestowitz_TR2; not just in the height sense
09:39 schestowitz_TR2; putin compared himself to an emporer
09:39 schestowitz_TR2; he does not such ambitions
09:39 schestowitz_TR2; *does have
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09:43 TR News; "According to Bank of Estonia (Eesti Pank), in 2021, Estonian e-shoppers' spending increased by more than 50 percent" https://news.err.ee/1608632893/number-of-estonian-e-shops-grows-to-7-700-during-pandemic | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
09:43 TR Bot; Number of Estonian e-shops grows to 7,700 during pandemic | News | ERR
09:44 matey; putin and napoleon arre simialr <- yes
09:44 TR News; BBC, bribed by Jeffrey Epstein's enabler Bill Gates and run by Microsoft UK, uses the Microsoft lobbying term "big tech" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61817647
09:44 TR Bot; Big Tech must deal with disinformation or face fines, says EU - BBC News
09:45 matey; /me falls over laughing
09:45 TR News; Microsoft: let's stop talking about crimes of corporations and instead about the size of corporations ("big tech"). Also Microsoft: people don't dislike Microsoft because of Microsoft's crime and corruption, they just envy is size and "success"
09:46 matey; so they (we dont even know who) dropped a nuke on moscow in 1812
09:46 matey; thats right, 1812
09:46 matey; and one of the reasons they know this is becase cancer didnt exist until then
09:46 matey; it started in russia
09:46 matey; awesome
09:47 matey; so on top of everything else to dislike about russia right now
09:47 matey; they also invented cancer
09:47 matey; thanks arseholes
09:47 schestowitz_TR2; IF you see such a laughable threory
09:47 schestowitz_TR2; be suspicious
09:47 schestowitz_TR2; it might be intentionally planted
09:47 schestowitz_TR2; to distract from something and make a straw man
09:47 matey; fair point
09:48 schestowitz_TR2; like the "5g gives covid" BS
09:48 matey; but reasonable theories dont bother me
09:48 matey; still this is funny stuff
09:48 schestowitz_TR2; Ariadne had her account in twitter suepended
09:48 schestowitz_TR2; after she had made a joke about 5g
09:48 matey; heh
09:48 schestowitz_TR2; so better not criticise 5g or gates in twitter
09:48 schestowitz_TR2; onl;y cranks would do that
09:49 matey; making fun of 5g is a hate crime
09:49 schestowitz_TR2; 5g is disabled
09:49 matey; jokes about 5g are NOT OKAY
09:49 TR News; Games: Retro (Colossal Cave Adventure) and New Stuff, Including GOG and Epic Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166186
09:49 TR Bot; Games: Retro (Colossal Cave Adventure) and New Stuff, Including GOG and Epic | Tux Machines
09:50 matey; NOT OKAY is the woke version of plusungood
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; another strawman
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; (to def. watch out for)
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; people who condemn mmisuse of tech
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; or use of tech for bad purposes
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; as "luddites"
09:50 matey; indeed
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; inc. things liek voting machines
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; they moved from "luddite"
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; to "trump supporter"
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; the "big lie"
09:50 matey; heh
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; don't criticise voting machines
09:50 schestowitz_TR2; that makes you racist
09:51 schestowitz_TR2; "ONLY MASS SHOOTERS CONDEMN PROPRIETARY VOTING MACHINES"
09:51 TR News; "The latest version builds on the original code of practice that was established in 2018" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3664135/big-tech-platforms-sign-up-to-the-eu-commission-s-new-code-of-practice-on-disinformation.html | Source: Computer World
09:51 TR Bot; tech platforms sign up to the EU Commissions new Code of Practice on Disinformation | Computerworld
09:51 matey; also this is awesome
09:51 TR News; "The U.S. thinktank Atlantic Council released a report Wednesday on cybersecurity issues related to central bank digital currencies (CBDC)." https://cointelegraph.com/news/atlantic-council-looks-at-how-to-maintain-central-bank-digital-currency-cybersecurity | Source: Cointelegraph
09:51 TR Bot; Atlantic Council looks at how to maintain central bank digital currency cybersecurity
09:52 matey; theres an ancient civilisation literally UNDERGROUND in russia
09:52 matey; still thriving!
09:52 matey; maybe theyre holding together the tatters of the russian economy
09:52 schestowitz_TR2; one person here used to promote this "underground" therory
09:52 matey; XD
09:53 schestowitz_TR2; in irc
09:53 schestowitz_TR2; that was over a decade ago
09:53 schestowitz_TR2; you have to wonder if they are "planted' here
09:53 schestowitz_TR2; you know it's likely when people bring "UFO" discussions
09:53 matey; i dunno
09:53 matey; this is the internet
09:53 matey; ufo theories are par for the course
09:53 schestowitz_TR2; we talked about uit yestersay
09:53 schestowitz_TR2; in #boycottnovel
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; it's in this morning's logs
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; some press tried to discredit wikileaks this way
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; you make some crazy BS
09:54 matey; all this stuff used to be "mainstream" on the internet
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; and then say wikileaks "proves" it
09:54 matey; and bbs
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; either with a link or without
09:54 matey; then online shopping took over
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; or with fabricated "evidence" you falsely attribute to "wikileaks"
09:54 matey; and the mainstream becmae the fringe
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; unless people pay attention, they will say wikileaks is crazy
09:54 schestowitz_TR2; or fake
09:55 matey; yeah that happens
09:55 schestowitz_TR2; until people no longer trust the brand
09:55 matey; i mean conspiracy theories get weaponised
09:55 matey; even the term is "planted"
09:55 matey; "conspiracy theory"
09:55 schestowitz_TR2; "don't listen to these techrights people... they said voting machines are controlled by 5g covid UFOs"
09:56 TR News; "So far, the hearings are less about the specific acts committed on that day, and more about the disinformation..." https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-jan-6-hearings-are-really-an-inquest-into-the-big-lie/ | Source: ABC
09:56 TR Bot; Jan. 6 Hearings Are Really An Inquest Into The Big Lie | FiveThirtyEight
09:56 TR News; "Bizarrely, the Guinness book of world records lists the first microcomputer as 1980s Xenix." https://www.sicpers.info/2022/06/more-micros-less-guinness/ | Source: SICP
09:56 TR Bot; More micros, less Guinness | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers
09:56 TR News; "The European Commission on Thursday released an overhauled set of rules designed to stem the flow of disinformation." https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/eu-strengthens-disinformation-rules-to-target-deepfakes-bots-fake-accounts/ | Source: CNET
09:56 TR Bot; Strengthens Disinformation Rules to Target Deepfakes, Bots, Fake Accounts - CNET
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; this will be a theme today
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; some articles in Techrights
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; with wikipedia as example of crap
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; wikipedia was good at the start
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; the bigger it gets, the worse it can get
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; esp. for certain TYPES ofp topics
09:57 schestowitz_TR2; there's no money in changing the history of some physicts
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; but in articles about politics and corporations... lots to be gained if gamed
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; we might even ban wikipedia one day
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; as it gets worse
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; and wikileaks does notthing about it
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; *wikipedia
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; it's no longerr even clear who wikipedia is
09:58 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperborea#Hyperborea_in_modern_esoteric_thought
09:58 TR Bot; Hyperborea - Wikipedia
09:58 schestowitz_TR2; people donate to it and it has staff
09:59 matey; it's no longerr even clear who wikipedia is <- wikipedia is this guy from california
09:59 schestowitz_TR2; but the agenda is, overall, decided to Jimbo Wales
09:59 schestowitz_TR2; the p0rn tyrcoon
09:59 matey; who thinks hes going to be famouse because hes in a rock band
09:59 matey; jimbo does porn too?
09:59 schestowitz_TR2; no
09:59 schestowitz_TR2; wait, let me get the ref
10:00 schestowitz_TR2; https://old.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1lrnrp/jimbo_wales_in_his_former_porn_king_days_xpost/
↺ https://old.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1lrnrp/jimbo_wales_in_his_former_porn_king_days_xpost/
10:00 TR Bot; Jimbo Wales in his former "porn king" days (xpost from /r/trashy) : wikipedia
10:00 schestowitz_TR2; looking for better linkm
10:00 schestowitz_TR2; https://www.scoopwhoop.com/Wikipedia-Was-Funded-By-A-Porn-Site/
10:00 TR Bot; Did You Know Wikipedia Was First Funded By A Porn Site Started By Its Founder Jimmy Wales?
10:00 schestowitz_TR2; "We all know it, Wikipedia is our saviour. Without the largest encyclopedia available for free on the internet, god knows how many projects might have been unfinished and how many assignments never submitted.
10:00 schestowitz_TR2; But here's something you didn't know about Wikipedia:
10:00 schestowitz_TR2; The website was first funded with money that its founder, Jimmy Wales, earned through his previous site, which relied heavily on soft porn for its revenues."
10:01 schestowitz_TR2; Larry Sagner was the cleaner founder
10:01 schestowitz_TR2; but the media never mentions him
10:01 schestowitz_TR2; what article did Jimbo even WRITE?
10:01 schestowitz_TR2; think Woz and Jobs
10:01 schestowitz_TR2; the two Steves
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; Jobs put his face all over the place
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; while Woz did the hackinfg
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; and dropping acids (I assume both)
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; now you have SUITS
10:02 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiporn "Wikipedia Porn (or simply WikiPorn) is a media repository of open images, sounds, videos and other media.[1] It also contains JSON[2] files. It is a project of the Wikimedia Foundation."
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; worshipping Jobs
10:02 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiporn )
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; like he's some marvel and genius
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; that's the p[ower of image
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; they also worship gates
10:02 schestowitz_TR2; who worships ior isolises Epstein
10:03 schestowitz_TR2; *idolises
10:03 schestowitz_TR2; and stays up all night talking to little girlsa
10:03 schestowitz_TR2; talking...
10:03 schestowitz_TR2; maybe not just talking... we have no hard proof
10:04 matey; it would be nice if the stuff we know for a fact he did was enough for people to give a shit
10:04 TR News; "There's zero ambiguity on this score." https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2022/06/kamala-harris-falsely-blames-conservatives-islamic-daniel-greenfield/ | Source: Frontpage Magazine
10:04 TR Bot; Harris Falsely Blames Conservatives for Islamic Terror Attack on Gay Nightclub | FrontpageMag
10:04 TR News; "Some of the team members will move to Reddit and work on ML projects like how Reddit customises ad placements" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/reddit-acquires-machine-learning-platform-spell/92294205 | Source: India Times
10:04 TR Bot; spell: Reddit acquires machine learning platform Spell, CIO News, ET CIO
10:07 TR News; "The findings of a growing number of surveys, based on interviews with thousands of students around the country, reflect this duality in the way students think and feel about the state of campus speech." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/campus-free-speech-self-censorship/661282/ | Source: The Atlantic
10:07 TR Bot; The Real Chill on Campus - The Atlantic
10:07 TR News; "openly degrading the Turkish flag" https://bianet.org/english/freedom-of-expression/263408-street-artist-given-deferred-prison-sentence-for-insulting-president | Source: BIA Net
10:07 TR Bot; Street artist given deferred prison sentence for insulting president - english
10:09 TR News; "Republican leaders in the US state of Florida have floated an idea to directly involve trustees in faculty hiring" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/desantis-wants-put-trustees-charge-faculty-hiring | Source: Times Higher Education
10:09 TR Bot; Ron DeSantis wants trustees to choose faculty | Times Higher Education (THE)
10:09 TR News; "After consideration by Westminster Magistrates Court and the High Court, the decision was passed to Patel" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/julian-assange-extradition-espionage-charges-1370005/ | Source: Rolling Stone
10:09 TR Bot; Julian Assange to Be Extradited to U.S. on Espionage Charges - Rolling Stone
10:09 TR News; "there have been hopes that Prime Minister Anthony Albanese would intervene in the case and try to get Assange sent back to Australia." https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/uk-approves-assange-extradition-to-us,-wikileaks-says-it-will-appeal.html | Source: IT Wire
10:09 TR Bot; - UK approves Assange extradition to US, WikiLeaks says it will appeal
10:10 TR News; "The Home Office said his extradition had now been approved but he could still appeal the decision." https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/uk-gives-nod-to-us-extradition-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-338084-2022-06-17 | Source: Business Today
10:10 TR Bot; UK gives nod to US extradition of WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange - BusinessToday
10:10 TR News; "He can launch an appeal at London's High Court which must give its approval for a challenge to proceed" https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/uk-approves-us-extradition-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-404688 | Source: The Tribune IN
10:10 TR Bot; UK approves US extradition of WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange : The Tribune India
10:10 TR News; "The deportation was approved Friday by U.K. Home Secretary Priti Patel following a series of failed legal battles in the U.K. courts. However, a number of appeal routes remain open to Assange" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/uk-approves-wikileaks-founder-julian-assanges-extradition-to-us-.html | Source: CNBC
10:10 TR Bot; UK approves WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's extradition to U.S.
10:11 TR News; "There is no interrogation regarding the actions of 16 journalists, it is journalism in questionThere is no interrogation regarding the actions of 16 journalists, it is journalism in question" https://bianet.org/english/politics/263409-journalism-questioned-what-do-you-mean-by-the-kurdish-question | Source: BIA Net
10:11 TR Bot; Journalism questioned: 'What do you mean by the Kurdish question?' - Ruken Tuncel - english
10:11 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8EeLM4qPnGw
10:11 TR Bot; they ruined my favorite Russian movie... - Invidious
10:11 TR News; "You have not succeeded with all the methods of repression" https://anfenglishmobile.com/freedom-of-the-press/16-journalists-sent-to-prison-60596 | Source: ANF News
10:11 TR Bot; ANF | 16 journalists sent to prison
10:16 TR News; "Journalism is a must in this region. People are aware that there is no life without journalism." https://bianet.org/english/human-rights/263340-journalism-despite-knowing-that-you-will-be-arrested | Source: BIA Net
10:16 TR Bot; Journalism despite knowing that you will be arrested - Hikmet Adal - english
10:17 TR News; "academic researchers seeking to ensure the openness and transparency of broadband data" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/broadband-mapping-coalition-seeks-to-bring-openness-back-to-internet-data/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
10:17 TR Bot; Broadband Mapping Coalition Seeks to Bring Openness Back to Internet Data : Broadband Breakfast
10:17 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/roku-stock-jumps-after-unveiling-walmart-e-commerce-partnership-1235167162/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
10:17 TR Bot; Roku Stock Jumps on Walmart E-Commerce Partnership The Hollywood Reporter
10:18 TR News; "The effort to curb the allegedly unauthorized use of music in apps and to prompt action from Google and Apple came to light yesterday, in a speech delivered by National Music Publishers Association president and CEO David Israelite." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2022/06/16/nmpa-google-apple-notices/ | Source: Digital Music News
10:18 TR Bot; NMPA Sends 'Formal Notices' to Google and Apple Amid App Crackdown
10:18 TR News; Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-release/statements-on-todays-decision-of-patels-approves-to-extradite-julian-assange/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
10:18 TR Bot; Statements on today's decision of Patel's approval to extradite Julian Assange - Don't Extradite Assange
10:19 TR News; Also official, on Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/breaking-extradition-statement-patel-approves-extradition/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
10:19 TR Bot; BREAKING: Extradition Statement: Patel approves extradition - Don't Extradite Assange
10:20 TR News; Assange helped show what's wrong with social control media (he borrowed this term from me!). It was weaponised against him by making up totally bogus scandals or inciting online mobs/groups (tribalism) against him, based on fabrication, giving many people different reasons to hate a man who helped expose corruption and war crimes
10:21 TR News; Stop saying "Big Tech"; you help Microsoft distract from its crimes https://torrentfreak.com/big-tech-protests-us-pirate-site-injunction-power-grab-against-cloudflare-220617/ | Source: Torrent Freak
10:21 TR Bot; Tech Protests US Pirate Site Injunction "Power Grab" Against Cloudflare * TorrentFreak
10:22 TR News; "The National Music Publishers Association has announced a crackdown on apps that use music without a proper license." https://torrentfreak.com/music-publishers-launch-crackdown-on-copyright-infringing-apps-220617/ | Source: Torrent Freak
10:22 TR Bot; Publishers Launch Crackdown on Copyright Infringing Apps * TorrentFreak
10:22 TR News; Punished for Exposing War Crimes https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/17/uk_approves_julian_assange_us_extradition | Source: Democracy Now
10:22 TR Bot; Punished for Exposing War Crimes? U.K. Approves Assange Extradition to U.S., Faces 175 Years in Prison | Democracy Now!
10:22 TR News; Stinkin' boingboing resorts to smear campaign, I remember when the site was semi-decent https://boingboing.net/2022/06/17/assange-extradition-approved-by-uk-government.html
10:22 TR Bot; Assange extradition approved by UK government | Boing Boing
10:23 TR News; Rwanda... distracts from Assange? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/06/16/record-numbers-children-cross-channel-priti-patel-prepares-rwanda/
10:23 TR Bot; Well dressed migrants arrive in Kent as more children make crossing
10:23 TR News; old: Did Pintos really explode in the 1970s? | HowStuffWorks https://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-driving-safety/auto-safety-testing/did-pintos-really-explode-in-the-1970s.htm
10:23 TR Bot; Did Pintos really explode in the 1970s? | HowStuffWorks
10:24 TR News; msn should also do an article about Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and the Lolita Express https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/indore-maulvi-five-others-booked-for-performing-nikah-of-14-year-old-girl-in-city/ar-AAYxBAE
10:24 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MSN
10:25 TR News; Daily Fail. "the character assassinations continue" against Assange https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10928491/ANDREW-NEIL-Julian-Assange-reckless-stupid-narcissist-not-extradited.html
10:25 TR Bot; ANDREW NEIL: Julian Assange is reckless, stupid and a narcissist - but should not be extradited | Daily Mail Online
10:25 TR News; Malaysia https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/malaysia-film-censors-say-disney-refused-to-cut-gay-scenes-in-lightyear/article65538186.ece
10:25 TR Bot; Malaysia film censors say Disney refused to cut gay scenes in Lightyear - The Hindu
10:26 TR News; nytimes doing anti-Assange pieces... after nytimes turned away Bradley Manning https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/17/world/europe/assange-extradition.html
10:26 TR Bot; Extradition Order for Julian Assange Approved by Britain - The New York Times
10:28 TR News; "debian = gnome, gnome = microsoft" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170622.html#tJun%2017%2009:10:57
10:28 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 17, 2022
10:28 TR News; "the fsf has been immunised against its own mission" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-170622.html#tJun%2017%2010:17:21
10:28 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 17, 2022
10:29 matey; "tasty period" wins worst restaurant name translated into english of all time
10:29 TR News; Priti Patel is pretty evil https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/17/home-secretary-signs-assange-extradition-order/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:29 TR Bot; Secretary Signs Assange Extradition Order scheerpost.com
10:29 TR News; "The Assange persecution is the greatest threat to Western press freedoms in years." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/17/the-uks-decision-to-extradite-assange-shows-why-the-us-uks-freedom-lectures-are-a-farce/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:29 TR Bot; Greenwald: The UKs Decision to Extradite Assange Shows Why The US/UKs Freedom Lectures Are a Farce scheerpost.com
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10:30 TR News; "Patels decision to hand over a journalist to the US government for prosecution was immediately condemned by human rights and press freedom organizations." https://thedissenter.org/uk-government-approves-assanges-extradition-to-united-states/ | Source: The Dissenter
10:30 TR Bot; 'Another Dark Day': UK Approves Assange Extradition
10:30 *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights
10:30 TR News; "Shouldn't we expect Western democracies to behave better?" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/17/sad-day-western-democracy-chomsky-ellsberg-others-denounce-assange-extradition | Source: Common Dreams
10:30 TR Bot; 'Sad Day for Western Democracy': Chomsky, Ellsberg, Others Denounce Assange Extradition
10:30 TR News; "The British home secretary has formally approved the extradition of WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange to the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/17/all-people-who-believe-press-freedoms-must-condemn-extradition-julian-assange | Source: Common Dreams
10:30 TR Bot; Opinion | All People Who Believe in Press Freedoms Must Condemn the Extradition of Julian Assange | Trevor Timm
10:30 TR News; "The U.K. government on Friday formally approved the extradition of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the United States to face espionage charges" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/17/chilling-message-journalists-world-over-uk-approves-assange-extradition-us | Source: Common Dreams
10:30 TR Bot; 'A Chilling Message to Journalists the World Over': UK Approves Assange Extradition to US
10:31 matey; i like that you can make something russian by covering up a letter with a black marker though
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10:31 matey; /me colours in the "hp" on an hp product
10:31 matey; look, its russian
10:31 TR News; "A Chilling Message to Journalists" (just stop exposing war crimes of US! Focus on RUSHA or sumthin') https://truthout.org/articles/a-chilling-message-to-journalists-uk-approves-assange-extradition-to-us/ | Source: TruthOut
10:31 TR Bot; "A Chilling Message to Journalists": UK Approves Assange Extradition to US
10:32 matey; /me puts a black mark over the red circle on japans flag
10:32 matey; russian flag!
10:33 TR News; USA: conflating "classified" with "it's a crime to expose this crime" (by making it visible to the general public or the taxpayers covering the costs of the crime)
10:33 TR News; Assange is a very dangerous person. If freed, it would give hope to other people wishing to expose to the public some war crimes and corporate corruption of USA.
10:33 matey; i think the bootleg russian fries
10:34 matey; they should call them "freedom fries"
10:35 TR News; That's pretty lame, Priti Patel. History will remember you as a supporter of war crimes and war criminals (just not Putin's and Putin) https://shadowproof.com/2022/06/17/another-dark-day-press-freedom-uk-assange-extradition-decision/ | Source: Shadowproof
↺ https://shadowproof.com/2022/06/17/another-dark-day-press-freedom-uk-assange-extradition-decision/
10:35 TR Bot; UK Home Secretary Agrees To Request To Send Assange To US For Trial
10:36 TR News; Journalism = exploit the crimes of the secretive powerful. PR and tabloids do the rest.
10:36 TR News; "The Wall Street Journal has offered up a helpful report (outside the paywall, for now) on the giant mess that is U.S. broadband subsidy efforts" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/we-just-keep-throwing-billions-at-telecom-monopolies-in-exchange-for-half-completed-shitty-broadband-networks/ | Source: Techdirt
10:36 TR Bot; Just Keep Throwing Billions At Telecom Monopolies In Exchange For Half-Completed, Shitty Broadband Networks | Techdirt
10:37 matey; 'if mcdonalds opening in 1990 was a sign of the iron curtain lifting, then mcdonalds leaving and being taken over..."
10:37 matey; on june 12, russia day
10:38 schestowitz_TR2; mcdonalds is "Freedom"
10:38 schestowitz_TR2; :-)
10:38 schestowitz_TR2; 9/11 was an act of revenge against mcdonalds
10:38 schestowitz_TR2; jealous saudis
10:38 schestowitz_TR2; with thieir porky mcdonalds
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10:38 TR News; "With Russia's invasion of Ukraine in February, we unbelievably find ourselves on the brink of a new Cold War" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/17/what-i-know-about-human-life-nuclear-downwinder | Source: Common Dreams
10:38 TR Bot; Opinion | What I Know About Human Life as a Nuclear Downwinder | Mary Dickson
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10:39 TR News; Oregon https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/oregon-state-officials-dump-al-tool-used-to-initiate-child-welfare-investigations/ | Source: Techdirt
10:40 TR Bot; State Officials Dump Al Tool Used To Initiate Child Welfare Investigations | Techdirt
10:40 matey; 8 mcdonalds is "Freedom" <- basically
10:40 TR News; Quit "Big Tech" BS. Stop saying "Big Tech"; you just help Microsoft lobbyists distract from the biggest crimes https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/17/big-tech-antitrust-battle-fight-democracy | Source: Common Dreams
10:40 TR Bot; Opinion | The Big Tech Antitrust Battle Is A Fight For Democracy | Aidan Smith
10:41 matey; the mcdonalds index
10:41 matey; how many mcdonalds you have = how free your country is
10:41 schestowitz_TR2; more bombs -> more democracy
10:41 schestowitz_TR2; not bombs in your arsenal
10:41 schestowitz_TR2; bombs dropped on you
10:41 schestowitz_TR2; and detonated
10:41 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald%27s_restaurants
10:41 TR Bot; List of countries with McDonald's restaurants - Wikipedia
10:41 schestowitz_TR2; *Esp on chillren
10:41 matey; McPedia!
10:41 schestowitz_TR2; they love the children
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; (the bombs love "frush blood")
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; nothing literates more than bombs
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; eventually there's no humans left
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; and the corruption ends
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; and people have a lot of freedom
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; they can take a whole city per capiuta
10:42 matey; the good news is now all mcdonalds are owned by bill gates
10:42 matey; the bad news is the special sauce
10:42 schestowitz_TR2; the ingredients
10:43 schestowitz_TR2; and they have patents, too
10:43 matey; special military sauce
10:43 schestowitz_TR2; bill gates esez articles are back
10:43 schestowitz_TR2; if you're gonna be best buddies with jeffrey epstein just makes sure you bribe all the majorm publishers
10:43 schestowitz_TR2; and they will change the subject
10:44 *CrystalMath (~coderain@3muwg9x6gtvne.irc) has joined #techrights
10:44 TR News; "It's about funneling money into the military-industrial complex." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/17/revolting-senate-panel-adds-another-45-billion-bidens-military-budget | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
10:44 TR Bot; 'Revolting': Senate Panel Adds Another $45 Billion to Biden's Military Budget
10:44 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
10:44 matey; capitalism almost seems like a bet going on
10:44 schestowitz_TR2; wait, no :-)
10:44 schestowitz_TR2; US capitalism
10:44 schestowitz_TR2; UK a close secondd
10:44 schestowitz_TR2; now it's failing
10:44 schestowitz_TR2; so they start wars
10:44 matey; to see who can funnel the most wealth to themselves without capitalism itself imploding
10:45 schestowitz_TR2; how many tent cities can we tolerate
10:45 matey; i mean if you have 100% of the wealth then no one has anything to buy anything from you
10:45 schestowitz_TR2; before riots are too much to handle?
10:45 matey; if you have 100% of the wealth, wheres the trade
10:45 schestowitz_TR2; and the "net worth" decreases quicker than it can be gained?
10:45 matey; before riots are too much to handle? <- those too
10:45 matey; intensity in tent cities!
10:46 schestowitz_TR2; when does the cost of a "Bill Gates says" puff piece exceed its net PR benefit?
10:46 schestowitz_TR2; because the publishers' reputation plunges
10:46 schestowitz_TR2; Sim Tent City
10:47 schestowitz_TR2; the next "MOD"of Sim City
10:47 schestowitz_TR2; manage the gypsy and all that
10:47 matey; sadly the uk is only #17 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_McDonald%27s_restaurants
10:47 TR Bot; List of countries with McDonald's restaurants - Wikipedia
10:47 matey; Sim Tent City <- from the makers of pressure washer and nuclear moscow 1812
10:48 matey; (basically from the hyperboreans)
10:48 matey; they have a game development company underneath russia
10:48 matey; and a mcdonalds
10:48 matey; the last mcdonalds in russia
10:48 schestowitz_TR2; under the mcddonalds
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; push over ronald
10:49 matey; under the mcdonalds is a starbucks
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; there is a tunnel beneath
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; was it roland
10:49 matey; ronald mcdonald
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; push him over
10:49 matey; the guy who invented mcdonalds and good morning america
10:49 matey; and smuckers
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; there's a keyboard underneat... a ROLAND
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; play the tune
10:49 schestowitz_TR2; and the sesame gate will open from beneath yout feet
10:50 matey; and underneath roland
10:50 matey; is sarah palins backyard
10:50 schestowitz_TR2; first you do ronald
10:50 schestowitz_TR2; thern roland
10:50 schestowitz_TR2; then newland
10:50 schestowitz_TR2; a new land with russian game developers
10:50 schestowitz_TR2; like in belarus HTP
10:50 schestowitz_TR2; maybe EPO can give them a contract
10:51 matey; a new land with russian game developers <- who have annexed jeseon
10:51 schestowitz_TR2; but hush-hush, don't talk abouyt it
10:51 matey; joseon
10:51 schestowitz_TR2; EPO is vewy vewy vewy upset aat Purin
10:51 matey; lee is pissed
10:51 matey; he cant win against the hyperboreans
10:51 matey; theyre too ancient and powerful
10:51 schestowitz_TR2; joseon... I think mkonarchy's name
10:51 schestowitz_TR2; it's not an actual place
10:51 schestowitz_TR2; so lee is trying to make one up
10:51 matey; korea was still basically a dot on a map then
10:52 schestowitz_TR2; all nations start as tribes
10:52 matey; in 1812 when the nuke went off in moscow
10:52 schestowitz_TR2; or groups or tribes
10:52 schestowitz_TR2; in the US they stilluse tribalism
10:52 matey; korea was only part of usenet
10:52 schestowitz_TR2; the oligarchs fund both tribes
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10:53 matey; today it is a bustling online metropolis
10:53 matey; with several brick-and-mortar locations in asia
10:53 matey; including seoul
10:53 matey; and vietnam
10:53 matey; which is a sister city
10:53 TR News; WTO kills millions of people with patents... for PROFIT! Where is the REBELLION. The rich are LITERALLY slaughtering us now. With "intellectual property" as a cover. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/17/after-wto-failure-nations-urged-outright-defy-pharma-patent-rules-fight-covid | Source: Common Dreams
10:53 TR Bot; After WTO Failure, Nations Urged to 'Outright Defy' Pharma Patent Rules to Fight Covid
10:54 schestowitz_TR2; south korea does control many foreign factories
10:54 schestowitz_TR2; inc. sweat shops
10:54 schestowitz_TR2; they don't want people to trace it back to the owners. Japan is the same.
10:55 matey; that explains the "lee" in "kathie lee gifford"
10:55 schestowitz_TR2; a lot of southeast asian businesses are controlled by richer east asians up north
10:55 matey; maybe shes a member of joseon royalty
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10:55 matey; OH MY GOD
10:55 matey; its Kathryn Lee EPSTEIN now
10:56 matey; /me falls over
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10:56 matey; "Kernaghan in his congressional testimony of April 1996, said that to make Ms. Giffords clothing, girls as young as 15 worked for 31 cents an hour, 75 hours a week."
10:57 TR News; Stop associating everything COVID-19 with "antivaxx". The label antivaxx predates it... now leveraged for commercial purposes. https://respectfulinsolence.com/2022/06/17/clots-and-covid-19-vaccines-misadventures-under-the-microscope/ | Source: Orac
10:57 TR Bot; Clots and COVID-19 vaccines: Misadventures under the microscope - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
10:57 schestowitz_TR2; matey: maybe japan- or korea-owned factories
10:57 schestowitz_TR2; working for "western" brands
10:57 schestowitz_TR2; farming people
10:57 schestowitz_TR2; like Ubuntu does
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; or ICBM *(Fedora)
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; and then SUING THE SLAVES
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; if they make a site that mentions the word "Fedora"
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; they initiate legal acti8on
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; against the slaves
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; ICBM
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; "we're all for inclusion"
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; "we also sue slaves"
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; not slave ownbers
10:58 schestowitz_TR2; the slaves
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
10:59 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WOHPuY88Ry4
10:59 schestowitz_TR2; to protect mino...., corporations
10:59 TR Bot; Johnny Cash - A Boy Named Sue (Live at San Quentin, 1969) - Invidious
11:00 TR News; Robbery formalised and made "legal" (when the robbers already robbed the system itself and write the rules which govern them) https://truthout.org/articles/former-liberal-congressman-is-now-a-top-lobbyist-defending-a-tax-scam/ | Source: TruthOut
11:00 TR Bot; Former Liberal Congressman Is Now a Top Lobbyist Defending a Tax Scam
11:01 TR News; WTO killing millions https://truthout.org/articles/activists-say-wto-deal-on-vaccine-patents-is-sham-dictated-by-rich-nations/ | Source: TruthOut
11:01 TR Bot; Activists Say WTO Deal on Vaccine Patents Is "Sham" Dictated by Rich Nations
11:02 TR News; "Poor Peoples Campaign" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/17/poor_peoples_campaign_2022_washington_march | Source: Democracy Now
11:02 TR Bot; Poor Peoples March on Washington Saturday Demands Moral Reset on Poverty, Voting Rights, Climate | Democracy Now!
11:02 TR News; Killing for profit https://truthout.org/articles/medicare-for-all-could-have-prevented-338000-covid-deaths-in-the-us/ | Source: TruthOut
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11:02 TR Bot; Medicare for All Could Have Prevented 338,000 COVID Deaths in the US
11:02 TR News; "Weve written a couple times about Andy Parker, whose story is truly tragic" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/does-removing-tragic-content-diminish-the-publics-desire-to-stop-tragedies/ | Source: Techdirt
11:03 TR Bot; Removing Tragic Content Diminish The Publics Desire To Stop Tragedies? | Techdirt
11:05 matey; since corporations are people
11:06 matey; and other people vastly outnumber corporations
11:06 matey; corporations are one of the smallest minorities in the world
11:06 matey; and with all of them merging into megacorporations
11:07 matey; they probably qualify for some kind of protection via their endangered status
11:07 matey; we cant get rid of corporations now, it would be GENOCIDE
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11:09 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Some people pay $20,000-30,000 for an entry level Rolex watch you know.
11:09 DaemonFC; When you run out of ways to spend the money but still want to be the ultimate asshole.
11:09 TR News; Samsung https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/samsung-busted-for-cheating-tv-test-benchmarks/ | Source: Techdirt
11:09 TR Bot; Busted For Cheating TV Test Benchmarks | Techdirt
11:10 TR News; "Social media censorship is threatening our press freedoms" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/17/patrick-lawrence-censored/ | Source: Scheerpost
11:10 TR Bot; Lawrence: CENSORED scheerpost.com
11:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, "Designer" watches. I wonder how many MARISOL bought with "Mark's" credit cards he knew nothing about.
11:10 TR News; The wikimedia bias is real, but Russia takes it too far https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/wikimedia-fighting-russian-fines-over-its-content-about-invasion-of-ukraine/ | Source: Techdirt
11:10 TR Bot; Fighting Russian Fines Over Its Content About Invasion Of Ukraine | Techdirt
11:11 DaemonFC; You know, if I had a wife who took out $60,000 in credit card debt in my name without asking me, they may one day find the body but they'd never identify it from what was left. :P
11:11 schestowitz_TR2; right...
11:12 DaemonFC; Nah, but I'd file for divorce and go to the police and say it was fraud. I mean, what kind of a "partner" does this to you?
11:13 DaemonFC; That's a form of abuse all on its own, worse than throwing plates at the wall.
11:13 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: you know what causes most divorces
11:13 schestowitz_TR2; finances
11:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, The only thing they CAN do now is work 70 hour weeks. When I told them I didn't have to because I watch how much money I spend, in addition to the portal to Hell that was waiting on me when I got home over Facebook messenger over "wanting" their stupid dog they should have put down to bite me so "I can sue them", the guy says he LIKES working 70 hour weeks because it means that they're not loafing around.
11:15 DaemonFC; :)
11:15 DaemonFC; They deserve each other.
11:15 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: you ar richer than them
11:15 schestowitz_TR2; no debt
11:15 schestowitz_TR2; cashflow is a temporary thing
11:16 schestowitz_TR2; when the job is lost and stuff gets repossessed
11:16 schestowitz_TR2; we live in w world where any person without debt is a lot richer than most
11:16 schestowitz_TR2; you had debt too
11:16 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Time vs. money. You can always spend more money than you make, and then you have to lose the time it costs to actually pay for it later, plus interest.
11:16 schestowitz_TR2; but you had it casnceled with bankruptcy
11:16 schestowitz_TR2; no idea how you do it in us
11:17 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR2> no idea how you do it in us
11:17 schestowitz_TR2; in most countries bankrupcies are vfoer businesses
11:17 DaemonFC; VERY carefully.
11:17 schestowitz_TR2; not for people
11:17 schestowitz_TR2; here is a joke for you
11:18 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, Corporations and people can file for Chapter 7. The main difference is when it's a personal bankruptcy and you file for liquidation, most people lose nothing because their situation is so hopeless at that point it's a no asset case.
11:18 schestowitz_TR2; what if the lending companies go bankrupt
11:18 schestowitz_TR2; and then file for bankruptcy
11:18 schestowitz_TR2; and then the state or whatnot files for bakrupcies
11:18 schestowitz_TR2; and china or KSA ge all angry
11:18 DaemonFC; When it's corporate, the trustee appoints people to go in, figure out what they have left, sell it all, and then dissolve the corporation.
11:18 matey; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bankruptcy_in_the_United_Kingdom
11:18 matey; In England and Wales, bankruptcy is governed by Part IX of the Insolvency Act 1986 (as amended) and by the Insolvency Rules 1986 (as amended). The term bankruptcy applies only to individuals, not to companies or other legal entities. An individual may be made bankrupt only by court order following the presentation of a bankruptcy petition.
11:18 DaemonFC; So it works kind of like that, schestowitz_TR2
11:18 DaemonFC; Legally? It's like I died and had nothing.
11:19 schestowitz_TR2; that's why it's called scvheme
11:19 schestowitz_TR2; or chain
11:19 schestowitz_TR2; or pyramid
11:19 DaemonFC; Then a new person with no debt.
11:19 schestowitz_TR2; it's a link of laiabilities
11:19 DaemonFC; Right, the creditors theoretically lose money, but they didn't lend me anything, and they massively inflated their losses if they did.
11:19 matey; nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2014/09/03/does-britain-have-medical-bankruptcies-yes/
11:19 matey; For starters, medical bills are not the only way a medical bankruptcy can occur. For example, if you have an illness that requires a major operation in Britain, you are likely to end up on a long waiting list. And if the illness renders you unable to work, then the longer you are on the waiting list the more your finances will be strained.
11:20 schestowitz_TR2; DaemonFC: <techrights-news> Depression https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51c8b188-32f3-44b7-a083-285fc572b856_526x526.jpeg
11:20 matey; Bankruptcy in Britain still an option for Irish - The Irish Times
11:20 matey; im sure the story behind that headline isnt as funny as the headline itself
11:20 DaemonFC; Like if you discharge $100,000 in medical debt, it probably cost the hospital $5,000? Something like that. They just run up the meter with all sorts of shit. Like, they pay the nurses and doctors and ambulance paramedics very little.
11:20 DaemonFC; They go through some supplies.
11:20 DaemonFC; But it's not even close to $100,000.
11:21 DaemonFC; Then you have a bill for $100,000 because "reasons".
11:21 matey; "death still an option for traitors"
11:21 matey; "poverty still an option for irish"
11:21 SomeH4x0r; hi
11:21 schestowitz_TR2; 0/
11:21 matey; "oh tank god, we thought we might have to be rich or sometin"
11:21 matey; "that would be terrible"
11:22 TR News; Links 18/06/2022: Outline of KDE Developments and BSD Picks | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/outline-of-kde-developments/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/18/outline-of-kde-developments/
11:22 TR Bot; Links 18/06/2022: Outline of KDE Developments and BSD Picks | Techrights
11:22 matey; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_insolvency_law
11:22 matey; Regulation of bankruptcy was a necessary part of every legal system, and is found in the Hammurabi Code (18th century BC), the Twelve Tables of the Roman Republic (450 BC), the Talmud (200 AD), and the Corpus Juris Civilis (534 AD).
11:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, They have this thing in US hospitals called the "chargemaster" which is a list of what they charge for everything they can do there. And it's basically the "big book of fake prices 'n shit". Then the insurance companies negotiate "fake discounts". Because the "chargemaster" has these ludicrous fake prices that they know the insurance companies are going to demand to "adjust" down by a factor of 5 or 6.
11:23 schestowitz_TR2; going to go buy some things for our fish
11:23 schestowitz_TR2; bbib
11:23 TR News; BSD Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166187
11:23 TR Bot; BSD Leftovers | Tux Machines
11:23 DaemonFC; It's an incestuous relationship to foist health insurance on people.
11:23 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166188
11:23 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
11:24 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166189
11:24 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
11:24 matey; i guess they had a lot of corporations back then
11:24 DaemonFC; You pay insurance to protect you from the "big book of fake prices 'n shit" which are actually what the hospital will sue you for and try to take if you have no insurance.
11:25 matey; Company bankruptcy is a term commonly used when referring to company liquidation. In the UK, the term bankruptcy is only applicable to individuals, including sole traders and members of partnerships. For a limited company, a process known as liquidation would be the equivalent of company bankruptcy.
11:25 DaemonFC; Even though the hospital is perfectly happy to take an $80,000 appendectomy visit and adjust it down to like $9,000 for the insurance companies, they will NOT do that for you.
11:25 DaemonFC; You can tell them "I can't pay that. I won't pay that. Try again!". And they may offer to set up payment arrangements on $40,000 or something and force you into slavery to pay down your medical bills.
11:26 DaemonFC; Eventually so many things happen to you over the years that everyone files bankruptcy eventually.
11:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, ^
11:26 DaemonFC; So that's how it works.
11:26 matey; www.theguardian.com/business/2011/feb/18/ireland-property-crash-bankruptcy-tourism 2011-02-18
11:26 matey; Declaring himself bankrupt in Ireland is not a realistic option: bankrupts must wait 12 years before they are discharged from their debts. But under European Union law he can file for bankruptcy
11:26 DaemonFC; matey, That's more like a US Chapter 13 case, I guess.
11:27 matey; Creditors of Westlife singer Shane Filan, who was declared bankrupt in Britain in June after being unable to repay 18 million worth of debts built up in property developments in Leitrim and ...
11:27 DaemonFC; If you make too much money to file a straight bankruptcy here, or have non-exempt property that you want to keep, you have to file a non-liquidation bankruptcy.
11:28 DaemonFC; The court puts all your debt into one "pot" and adjusts the interest rate on it to one that's way lower. Like, you know, your credit cards, car loan, etc., can all go into a pot where you pay 5% or something.
11:28 DaemonFC; Then you have to make a monthly payment to the trustee which amounts to whatever the court decides your "disposable" income is.
11:29 DaemonFC; After 5 years, the payments stop and whatever debts remain go away.
11:30 DaemonFC; MARISOL got them in so much trouble that there's no way to file a straight bankruptcy because they make too much, they want to cling to "their stuff" instead of letting a trustee dispose of it, and they'd have to pay back almost all of their debt and trash their credit on a Chapter 13 plan if they tried to use the courts for relief.
11:32 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I've come to the conclusion that GM simply makes their cars to rust.
11:33 DaemonFC; Why else would you put metal fenders and wheel wells in there without some sort of plastic guard to eliminate stone chips?
11:33 DaemonFC; I mean, this is a very easy problem to eliminate. You just put plastic trim over it to guard against pebbles and stuff that the tires kick up off the road.
11:34 DaemonFC; Because if they hit the paint and damage it, you can get rust several years later from just one little nick.
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12:19 DaemonFC; One of the ways Trump/Republicans try to keep out immigrants is to accuse them of being diseased with COVID-19, which I always thought was an interesting argument, to say the least.
12:19 DaemonFC; Most Republicans are so afraid of COVID-19 that they refuse to wear a face mask, dont see any need to get vaccinated, and sue to have super-spreader events while comparing it to the cold and flu season, but then it becomes the Bubonic Plague or Ebola when it comes to why we have to keep immigrants out.
12:19 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/18/biden-administration-tries-to-claim-trademark-infringement-to-shut-down-parody-of-racist-border-patrol-incident/
12:19 TR Bot; Biden Administration tries to claim trademark infringement to shut down parody of racist border patrol incident. BaronHK's Rants
12:27 DaemonFC; NFTs are sort of like a religion, like fakecoins are. You have people paying real money for a product that they aren't allowed to see, which probably doesn't even exist, and which gets inflated in value some more each time it's retold to make the story more compelling.
12:27 DaemonFC; Religion is basically getting people to pay for a product they can't see or complain about until they're dead and can't warn anyone else "Boy was I a sucker!".
12:27 DaemonFC; Anyway, there's some more BillSEZ this morning on NFTs.
12:28 DaemonFC; They want you putting money in the plate every week, more often actually. They pass it around on Wednesdays too!
12:28 DaemonFC; The people who get religious are old because they start psychologically discounting their remaining days like the people around them do.
12:29 DaemonFC; My grandparents were at church at least three times a week for as long as I can remember. More if they had a get together for dinner or something.
12:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:31 DaemonFC; It's a social group. I mean, there's nothing wrong with associating with people who reject being "worldly", in and of itself, but it morphs into beliefs in the supernatural and two minutes hate against the nasty gay men and all sorts of other foul thing.
12:31 DaemonFC; *things
12:32 DaemonFC; In the sense that most Christians use the term "worldly", it's a catch-all for everything wrong with the world. Basically, that people have turned into slobs that get trashy tattoos and body piercings and go around spreading STDs and getting each other knocked up, and drugs.
12:32 DaemonFC; And there's nothing wrong with wanting to stand up to all of that and say it's not acceptable, because it's not acceptable.
12:33 DaemonFC; "Social Media" has become another vent for everyone letting their freak flag fly
12:33 DaemonFC; And if the Internet needed something else, you know, it's another way for degenerates to show off and to get hookedo n pornography.
12:33 DaemonFC; *on
12:37 DaemonFC; I think in some ways I benefited from going to a private Christian school. For starters, nobody learns anything in public school anyway.
12:37 DaemonFC; Here's the kind of people I get to deal with.
12:37 DaemonFC; You call Walmart Grocery Pickup and say "I'm in a silver Buick in parking space number 4.".
12:37 DaemonFC; And they make you repeat everything back to then like 4 times before they understand that.
12:38 DaemonFC; I called the CTA to ask about getting my mother a Senior Reduced Fare Pass, and said she lived in Indiana.
12:41 DaemonFC; The woman goes, "Oh, so is that outside of Illinois?". I couldn't help myself. I said, "Well, it has been ever since Congress split it off from the Indiana territory in 1806. Things were hard in those days, but eventually the issue of slavery was settled and neighborhoods started to be electrified about 90 years later.".
12:41 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
12:50 DaemonFC; Sam's Club is selling $8 membership for the first year.
12:50 DaemonFC; I never got the whole warehouse club thing.
12:50 DaemonFC; After you buy a $45 a year membership, they don't generally save you enough money to recoup that.
12:52 DaemonFC; They have cheap gas, but not cheaper than BP, Shell, or Speedway with Upside and my credit card.
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13:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR2, I was looking at low rolling resistance tires as a possibility. They don't seem to save enough money to be worth the cost, and I have nearly full tread on the tires on the car right now.
13:01 DaemonFC; I think expensive tires are a big gamble. Cheap ones, not really.
13:01 DaemonFC; 20 years ago it was a different story.
13:02 DaemonFC; The expensive ones meant quality. They were all made in the United States, they had the best materials. If you got a cheap set that were made in China you knew you'd hate them but the price was like maybe $40 per tire.
13:03 DaemonFC; Now you pay for the brand and get $800 after tax and installation and you still might not like them.
13:03 DaemonFC; You get the brand and they're all made in some sweatshop.
13:10 DaemonFC; When I replace tires just depends on how much tread is left and what season we're heading into.
13:11 DaemonFC; If we're about to go into winter and they have 4/32, I might replace them, but if we're heading into Spring or Summer, I'll go ahead and run them down a few more months and toss them them.
13:11 DaemonFC; *then
13:11 DaemonFC; If you can beat them up for another couple thousand miles before you absolutely have to toss them, you'll get your money's worth.
13:12 DaemonFC; I think one reason people get a Sam's membership is the car tires.
13:12 DaemonFC; If I needed a set, I'd definitely get the $8 membership just for the tire prices, and then cancel it before it renewed next year.
13:36 TR News; Michigan https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/michigan-starts-dismantling-its-forfeiture-reforms-to-make-it-easier-to-steal-cash-from-people-at-airports/ | Source: Techdirt
13:36 TR Bot; Starts Dismantling Its Forfeiture Reforms To Make It Easier To Steal Cash From People At Airports | Techdirt
13:43 TR News; #HowTo Install ImageMagick or Imagick PHP Extension in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166190
13:43 TR Bot; How to Install ImageMagick or Imagick PHP Extension in Linux | Tux Machines
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14:04 TR Bot; Copyright "Small Claims" Quasi-Court Opens. Here's Why Many Defendants Will Opt Out. | Electronic Frontier Foundation
14:09 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/quitdrinking.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-quitdrinking#comic )
14:09 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
14:17 TR News; Consumption https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/17/how-our-consumption-is-killing-poor-kids-in-los-angeles/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:17 TR Bot; Our Consumption is Killing Poor Kids in Los Angeles - CounterPunch.org
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14:23 TR News; "imperial facade" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/17/summit-of-the-americas-flops-while-workers-summit-exposes-cracks-in-the-imperial-facade/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:23 TR Bot; of the Americas Flops While Workers Summit Exposes Cracks in the Imperial Faade - CounterPunch.org
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15:01 XRevan86; https://smbc-comics.com/comic/unity-2
15:01 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Unity
15:03 TR News; Sounds drunk. Drunkspace? "Hi guys! Just moved in haha!! Can't believe it!! Can I? Did I? What am I even talking about! Silly me haha must've been the food I found on the table!!" gemini://altesq.net/~ryanb/broadcasts/2022-06-18.gmi
15:04 TR News; "every OS needs at least 2 GUI Browsers, right? It's not really going very well; Palemoon, while the closest, is still failing because of nspr memes, and im not sure if its going to be easy to fix. We'll see, I guess." gemini://electrode.codes/blog/2022-06-18-Diary-of-an-HTL-Student-3.gmi
15:05 TR News; Back panel settings gemini://idiomdrottning.org/back-panel-settings
15:05 TR News; Discourses of climate delay gemini://idiomdrottning.org/discourses-of-climate-delay
15:14 MinceR; (cat) https://thecodinglove.com/when-we-join-a-meeting-and-we-know-its-going-to-be-a-tough-one
15:14 TR Bot; When we join a meeting and we know its going to be a tough one | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
15:17 TR News; "Management science has been clear on this point for generations, ever since the days of the late Peter Drucker." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/17/keeping-workers-poor-is-bad-for-business/ | Source: Counter Punch
15:17 TR Bot; Workers Poor is Bad for Business - CounterPunch.org
15:26 TR News; "Ive been entertaining doing a one off audio log. Just 5 minutes of me introducing myself and talking about a subject. It would be neat to try and convince some other capsuleers to do the same. "The Voices Of Gemini"." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-18-learnt.gmi
15:28 TR News; SpellBinding: GUNOSTL Wordo: SLICE gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-18.gmi
15:29 TR News; OnlyFlans gemini://tilde.team/~tomasino/journal/20220618-onlyflans.gmi photography in Gemini
15:29 TR News; "Since most of the time I'm going to be using my phone, I thought it would be cool if I can edit my future blogs in a text environment there, and oh boy is this cool." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random0
15:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
15:30 TR News; Many posters in Gemini still rely on a few centralised third parties. We need to help them set up their own capsules. gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1018
15:31 TR News; "I kept coming across Reddit comments about the "Curly Girl Method" but kind of just ignored it because honestly it sounds like bullshit." Reddit is a hive of corporate trolls. gemini://pandaonline.smol.pub/cgm
15:32 TR News; DOOM https://hackaday.com/2022/06/17/doom-ported-to-sega-naomi-arcade-hardware/ | Source: Hackaday
15:32 TR Bot; Ported To Sega Naomi Arcade Hardware | Hackaday
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15:46 TR News; copyright https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/our-digital-lives-rest-robust-flexible-and-stable-fair-use-regime | Source: EFF
15:46 TR Bot; Our Digital Lives Rest on a Robust, Flexible, and Stable Fair Use Regime | Electronic Frontier Foundation
15:47 TR News; EFF has a long history of protecting clownflare, rather than calling for its eradication https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/eff-warns-another-court-about-dangers-broad-site-blocking-orders
15:47 TR Bot; EFF Warns Another Court About the Dangers of Broad Site-Blocking Orders | Electronic Frontier Foundation
15:48 TR News; EFF used to be a lot more revolutionary. Cindy Cohn does not want that. Founders are out. Also see OSI, LF, Mozilla....
15:51 TR News; USA: WAR economy. USSR: RAW economy.
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15:58 TR News; Patents kill. WTO: mass murder. For profit. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/17/wto-deal-vaccine-patents-decried-sham-dictated-rich-nations-big-pharma | Source: Common Dreams
15:58 TR Bot; WTO Deal on Vaccine Patents Decried as a 'Sham' Dictated by Rich Nations, Big Pharma
16:01 TR News; "Handshake Activism" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/naidoo-neubauer-climate-activism/ | Source: The Nation
16:01 TR Bot; Handshake Activism Wont Defuse the Climate Emergency | The Nation
16:03 TR News; RFID https://hackaday.com/2022/06/17/your-buildings-rfid-access-tags-might-be-really-insecure/ | Source: Hackaday
16:03 TR Bot; Buildings RFID Access Tags Might Be Really Insecure | Hackaday
16:03 TR News; "European outdoor hacker camp" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/17/hackaday-podcast-173-emf-camp-special-edition/ | Source: Hackaday
16:03 TR Bot; Podcast 173: EMF Camp Special Edition | Hackaday
16:06 TR News; Facebook, Twitter, TikTok... but Pro Publica continues to take money (bribes) from dangerous Bill Gates, who was enabling child sex trafficking... https://www.propublica.org/article/election-fraud-ballot-mules-facebook-tiktok-memes
16:06 TR Bot; Facebook, Twitter, TikTok Failing to Take Down Dangerous Ballot Mule Wanted Poster Memes ProPublica
16:15 TR News; "Congratulations to the thousands of creators from 46 countries who participated in Coolest Projects Global 2022." https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-2022-celebration-favourites/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
16:15 TR Bot; Coolest Projects Global 2022: Celebrating young tech creators & creative ideas - Raspberry Pi
16:18 TR News; Enough of these patents https://fair.org/home/a-handful-of-billionaire-companies-have-monopoly-control-over-life-saving-medicines/ | Source: FAIR
16:18 TR Bot; 'A Handful of Billionaire Companies Have Monopoly Control Over Life-Saving Medicines' - FAIR
16:20 TR News; Gig Economy [sic] https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/17/breaking-even-in-the-gig-economy/ | Source: Counter Punch
16:20 TR Bot; Even in the Gig Economy - CounterPunch.org
16:42 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/files/Ryan-Hudson-Guest.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/ryan-hudson#comic )
16:42 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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17:23 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/craving.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-craving#comic )
17:23 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
17:45 matey; when i discover "thecodinglove" and then run away from it like its on fire https://thecodinglove.com/favorite-code-editor-vi-visual-studio-code
17:45 TR Bot; When someone asks me what my favorite code editor is | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
17:46 matey; \_()_/
17:47 MinceR; :>
17:49 matey; i like the idea though
17:49 matey; /me wonders if it goes back as far as something he once did
17:55 matey; hundreds of pages...
17:57 matey; yep, hes been doing it longer
17:58 matey; i had a similar idea, which was executed (on a smaller scale)
17:58 matey; but it was at least a year after this guy started
17:59 matey; /me is still tracing back to the first one
18:01 matey; first one was on 13-1-13 https://thecodinglove.com/page/1745
18:01 TR Bot; The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
18:11 TR News; "Using IPFS (Inter-planetary File System) is a way to store websites decentralized and without any money. How fast or how slow it will be, is determined by how popular it is with IPFS nodes." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GERBV2Bv-A4
18:11 TR Bot; The Future Internet - Invidious
18:12 TR News; GhostBSD 22.06.15 ISO is now available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166191
18:12 TR News; New FreeBSD Core Team Elected Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166192
18:12 TR Bot; GhostBSD 22.06.15 ISO is now available | Tux Machines
18:12 TR Bot; New FreeBSD Core Team Elected | Tux Machines
18:16 TR News; Biden Administration tries to claim'trademark infringement' to shut down parody of racist border patrol incident. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/18/biden-administration-tries-to-claim-trademark-infringement-to-shut-down-parody-of-racist-border-patrol-incident/ Source: baronhk
18:16 TR Bot; Biden Administration tries to claim trademark infringement to shut down parody of racist border patrol incident. BaronHK's Rants
18:21 TR News; Adding Spaces Horizontal Bar to NeoChat - GSoC'22 post #3 https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/gsoc-22/adding-spaces-list/
18:21 TR Bot; Adding Spaces Horizontal Bar to NeoChat - GSoC'22 post #3
18:22 TR News; Manjaro 21.3 Ruah Released with Polished Desktop Environments Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166193
18:22 TR Bot; Manjaro 21.3 Ruah Released with Polished Desktop Environments | Tux Machines
18:22 TR News; This App Let You Configure Camera Exposure, White Balance, HDR & More in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166194
18:22 TR Bot; This App Let You Configure Camera Exposure, White Balance, HDR & More in Linux | Tux Machines
18:23 TR News; "The XP-PEN Deco L (UGEE) needs to be initialized by sending a buffer of magic data, discovered by sniffing the Windows driver traffic." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/hid/hid.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=0cb1fc0988e32bda84c2b7218e0c761af1430baf
18:23 TR Bot; kernel/git/hid/hid.git - HID Group's fork of hid.git
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18:25 TR News; Add an OLED display to Raspberry PI Pico with MicroPython https://peppe8o.com/ssd1306-i2c-oled-raspberry-pi-pico-micropython/ Source: peppe8o
18:25 TR Bot; Add an OLED display to Raspberry PI Pico with MicroPython
18:25 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166195
18:25 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
18:28 TR News; Tor 0.4.7.8 is ready http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166152#comment-34051
18:28 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
18:29 TR News; How to update EasyOS https://easyos.org/user/how-to-update-easyos.html
18:29 TR Bot; How to update EasyOS
18:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:30 TR News; How Wordle inspired me to create a 3D printing wiki the open source way | https://opensource.com/article/22/6/3d-printing-wordle-crowdsourcing Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
18:30 TR Bot; Wordle inspired me to create a 3D printing wiki the open source way | Opensource.com
18:32 TR News; AMD Zen 4 and Mendocino CPUs Receive CPU Temperature Driver Patch In Linux https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-4-and-mendocino-cpus-receive-cpu-temperature-driver-patch-in-linux/ Source: wccftech
18:32 TR Bot; AMD Zen 4 and Mendocino CPUs Receive 'CPU Temperature Driver' Patch In Linux
18:33 TR News; Notkia: Building An Open And Linux-Powered Numpad Phone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165583#comment-34053
18:33 TR Bot; Nokia 1680 phone gets new PCB with MIPS SoC, runs mainline Linux | Tux Machines
18:34 TR News; Closed Source vs. Open Source Hardware Drivers: Why It Matters https://www.makeuseof.com/closed-source-vs-open-source-hardware-drivers/ Source: makeuseof
18:34 TR Bot; Closed Source vs. Open Source Hardware Drivers: Why It Matters
18:34 TR News; New KDE Goals: submission stage is now open! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166196
18:34 TR Bot; New KDE Goals: submission stage is now open! | Tux Machines
18:34 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166198
18:35 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:35 TR News; Closed Source vs. Open Source Hardware Drivers: Why It Matters Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166197
18:35 TR Bot; Closed Source vs. Open Source Hardware Drivers: Why It Matters | Tux Machines
18:40 TR News; Woohoo! DRM. https://www.gimp.org/news/2022/06/18/gimp-2-10-32-on-microsoft-store/
18:40 TR Bot; GIMP 2.10.32 is on the MicrosoftStore! - GIMP
18:41 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: 3-D Pringing, MicroPython, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166199
18:41 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: 3-D Pringing, MicroPython, and More | Tux Machines
18:41 TR News; Decode Hexdump https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/decode-hexdump/ Source: theweeklychallenge
18:41 TR Bot; Decode Hexdump
18:42 TR News; "Last year, I wrote my own blog-aware static site generator in Python. I called it blag named after the blag of the webcomic xkcd. Now I finally got around packaging- and uploading blag to Debian. It passed the NEW queue and is now part of the distribution." https://venthur.de/2022-06-18-blag-in-debian.html
18:42 TR Bot; blag is now available in Debian | Bastian Venthur's Blog
18:43 TR News; Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: IoTs a 4-Letter Word - Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/18/microconferences-at-linux-plumbers-conference-iots-a-4-letter-word/ Source: lpc
18:43 TR Bot; Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: IoTs a 4-Letter Word Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
18:46 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/18/video-released-showing-police-officers-beating-up-russian-activist-in-front-of-his-seven-year-old-son-news "Video released showing police officers beating up Russian activist in front of his seven-year-old son"
18:46 TR Bot; .
18:48 schestowitz_TR; russia
18:48 schestowitz_TR; (or USA)
18:48 schestowitz_TR; I might expect this in USA too
18:49 schestowitz_TR; police is generally violent
18:49 TR News; Links 18/06/2022: GhostBSD 22.06.15, Manjaro 21.3, and New FreeBSD Core Team Elected | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/manjaro-21-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/18/manjaro-21-3/
18:49 schestowitz_TR; I think in the US it used to be less so
18:49 TR Bot; Links 18/06/2022: GhostBSD 22.06.15, Manjaro 21.3, and New FreeBSD Core Team Elected | Techrights
18:49 schestowitz_TR; but in very partisan countries it gets worse
18:49 schestowitz_TR; and they can get away with it
18:50 schestowitz_TR; (they KNOW it)
18:50 XRevan86; The police officers shot the videos themselves.
18:50 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166200
18:50 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:50 TR News; Kernel: Linux Plumbers Conference:and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166201
18:50 TR Bot; Kernel: Linux Plumbers Conference:and More | Tux Machines
18:50 schestowitz_TR; XFaCE: y0gen
18:50 schestowitz_TR; -ygen
18:51 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: ^^
18:51 schestowitz_TR; they might have some reasons to beat you up to
18:51 schestowitz_TR; physical hurt and humiliations themselves become a tactic
18:51 schestowitz_TR; like in belarus
18:51 schestowitz_TR; it's becoming intentional
18:51 schestowitz_TR; they skip the trials and show trisls
18:51 schestowitz_TR; they just get right to the sdhow
18:51 XRevan86; schestowitz: The beaten up guy has a case opened on him for assaulting a police officer.
18:52 schestowitz_TR; so maybe they wanted revenge
18:52 schestowitz_TR; maybe he did not assault an oficer
18:52 XRevan86; It's the same incident.
18:52 schestowitz_TR; maybe it was some minor altercatyion
18:52 XRevan86; Their beating him up is his beating them up.
18:52 schestowitz_TR; maybe he responded to the officer doing something
18:52 schestowitz_TR; like pushing away an officer who head-butts you
18:53 schestowitz_TR; there is this saying about cops
18:53 XRevan86; schestowitz: Look at the video and ye'll see why.
18:53 schestowitz_TR; if they don't get violkent
18:53 schestowitz_TR; they create it
18:53 schestowitz_TR; because this is what they train for
18:53 schestowitz_TR; and they want some action
18:53 schestowitz_TR; if you don't give it to them
18:53 schestowitz_TR; they might instigate it
18:54 XRevan86; https://t.me/family_taganov/4 video's here
18:54 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @family_taganov
18:54 XRevan86; So a guy attacks him from behind, and he's trying to counter-attack with a punch.
18:55 XRevan86; Notice that his boy's jacket is blue and the hat is yellow. That's the official reason.
18:56 schestowitz_TR; but ukraine and russia are "one people"
18:56 schestowitz_TR; blue+yellow=-green
18:56 schestowitz_TR; greenlight for brawling
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19:01 XRevan86; schestowitz: A green ribbon was also an anti-war symbol in Russia.
19:02 XRevan86; Maybe still is, but people try not to put targets onto themselves in public spaces, so hard to tell.
19:03 XRevan86; > My husband also wore a green ribbon, but did not refer to it as an anti-war symbol publicly
19:03 XRevan86; Apparently he claimed it to be a climate change awareness ribbon.
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19:16 schestowitz_TR; XRevan86: YELLOW BACK
19:16 schestowitz_TR; blue bad
19:16 schestowitz_TR; green BAD
19:16 schestowitz_TR; What's left?
19:16 schestowitz_TR; red?
19:16 schestowitz_TR; USSR?
19:16 XRevan86; white's also bad
19:16 schestowitz_TR; black is good?
19:17 schestowitz_TR; red+red =anarchism
19:17 XRevan86; Unknown for now.
19:17 schestowitz_TR; red+black
19:17 schestowitz_TR; it's becoming like pood the bear in china
19:17 schestowitz_TR; too many things are symbols
19:17 schestowitz_TR; I meant pooh
19:17 schestowitz_TR; winne the pooh/pooh the bear
19:18 schestowitz_TR; soon russia will start banning LETTERS
19:18 XRevan86; red+black is both anarcho-communism colours and of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)
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19:18 schestowitz_TR; "why did you write THAT letter?"
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19:18 schestowitz_TR; IIRC, China banned letters too
19:18 schestowitz_TR; hang on
19:18 schestowitz_TR; https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/01/asia/china-letter-ban-trnd/index.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/28/china-bans-the-letter-n-internet-xi-jinping-extends-power
19:18 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/01/asia/china-letter-ban-trnd/index.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/28/china-bans-the-letter-n-internet-xi-jinping-extends-power )
19:18 schestowitz_TR; https://www.businessinsider.com/china-censors-letter-n-in-crackdown-on-presidential-term-limit-discussion-2018-2?r=US&IR=T
19:18 TR Bot; China Censors Letter N in Crackdown on Term Limit Discussion
19:18 schestowitz_TR; https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/01/asia/china-letter-ban-trnd/index.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/28/china-bans-the-letter-n-internet-xi-jinping-extends-power
19:19 TR Bot; Why China banned the letter 'N' - CNN
19:19 TR Bot; Ce*sored! China bans letter N (briefly) from internet as Xi Jinping extends grip on power | China | The Guardian
19:19 schestowitz_TR; this is Russia, the next step
19:19 XRevan86; red "N" ("") is illegal, yes.
19:19 XRevan86; It's a symbol of Navalny.
19:20 schestowitz_TR; there you go
19:20 schestowitz_TR; it's already xi
19:20 schestowitz_TR; letters alone
19:21 schestowitz_TR; "why are you smiling? That's a symbol!"
19:21 schestowitz_TR; brb
19:21 schestowitz_TR; going to record something
19:58 AdmFubar; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/06/what-does-capitalism-repress-a-jungian-perspective.html
19:58 TR Bot; What Does Capitalism Repress? A Jungian Perspective. | naked capitalism
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20:15 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22061060
20:16 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/sbveyr0y4o291.jpg created on 2022-06-10 20:34:51.826004
20:17 XRevan86; So I guess some people just grow guns as parts of their bodies?
20:18 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
20:18 TR Bot; Analogy - Wikipedia
20:18 XRevan86; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_analogy
20:18 TR Bot; Argument from analogy - Wikipedia
20:19 MinceR; the argument has been made many times without the analogy
20:19 XRevan86; So has the counterargument.
20:26 schestowitz_TR; <XRevan86> So I guess some people just grow guns as parts of their bodies?
20:26 schestowitz_TR; guns don't kill people
20:26 schestowitz_TR; bullets can kill people
20:26 schestowitz_TR; guns are detonation devices for bullets
20:26 schestowitz_TR; bullet shells kill people
20:27 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUhuGkFTV90
20:27 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=aUhuGkFTV90
20:27 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | Postal dude ALL quotes from Postal 2 WITH CAPTIONS - Invidious
20:27 schestowitz_TR; bullet shells are propelled by gunpower
20:27 schestowitz_TR; but gunpowder does not kill people
20:27 schestowitz_TR; it just pushed objects into people
20:27 schestowitz_TR; piercing their skin and rapturing internal organs
20:27 schestowitz_TR; so who kills people?
20:27 schestowitz_TR; nobody
20:28 schestowitz_TR; they just die from organ malfunction
20:28 schestowitz_TR; (satirical mood
20:29 schestowitz_TR; rifles and pistols are just fancy tubes
20:29 schestowitz_TR; or batrrels
20:29 schestowitz_TR; they are devices for denotating shells with chemicals
20:29 schestowitz_TR; some do it fasdter than others
20:29 schestowitz_TR; and some have better handles
20:31 MinceR; it's a pity humans can't control their own actions and certain objects do it instead
20:32 MinceR; good thing we have governments which are totally not made of humans, to fix that
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20:39 TR News; Hacker [sic] News [sic] is BS. Nothing to be missed. gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-18.missing.gmi
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21:13 MinceR; Hobbes called it the "Leviathan" to distract from the fact that it was made of the problem it was purported to solve
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21:23 TR News; COVID-19 Positive gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220618-covid-19-positive.gmi "and at first I attributed my symptoms to heat sickness from the exercise."
21:25 TR News; "On May 9th I was at a job interview on the other side of town, near the university." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-06-18-collage-from-may-9th-e-scooter-safari.gmi
21:30 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-17.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-18.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:30 DaemonFC; <schestowitz_TR> <XRevan86> So I guess some people just grow guns as parts of their bodies?
21:30 DaemonFC; The T-X anti-Terminator Terminator.
21:31 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
21:32 DaemonFC; If you look at the T-X heads up display there's plenty of gags and easter eggs that show up in the HUD after the T-850 (Arnold) damages a couple of them with a grenade launcher.
21:32 DaemonFC; Including the rifle the Marines used in Aliens.
21:40 schestowitz_TR; transofmrers can become artillery
21:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I'm writing another blog post. I touch on European cars.
21:41 DaemonFC; "Nobody I've ever known who has had a VW says they'd ever own another one, and that includes my mom, who had the engine on a new VW Rabbit blow up and strand her in Illinois in 1983, when the thing only had 40,000 miles on it and had been taken care of, and an ex that I dated for about a year in 2013 who couldn't afford to keep his 2009 Jetta on the road because the reliability took a dump when the car was only about 4 years old and it was
21:41 DaemonFC; constantly at the mechanics and they never could make the stupid thing work right, and there was a car payment as well."
21:41 DaemonFC; "It's no secret that I've always bought and driven late model American cars. They get lousy gas mileage, but they're pretty cheap (relatively speaking) to fix because well up until 2010-ish, they weren't grossly over-designed with finicky modern technology that might save a little gas but wouldn't get you very far. And for some reason, despite the fact that European cars are notoriously unreliable and require oddball knowledge and proprietary
21:41 DaemonFC; parts to fix when they constantly break down, they sell for a ridiculous amount of money even as the owner is desperate to hide thousands of dollars of repairs and get out from under it."
21:43 DaemonFC; You can absolutely do 10,000 mile oil change intervals with a Buick V6. You need to use a good quality full synthetic oil, and check the level and top off if needed, but the myth that only European cars can have long oil change intervals is....a myth. You can go longer than 10,000 miles if you use Euro Synthetic oil in this engine and a really big oil filter with plenty of filtration media.
21:43 DaemonFC; It won't hurt a thing and none of them are in warranty anymore anyway, so it's not like you have to take it in and have them scrutinize what you've been doing like stupid robots looking for a reason to deny your warranty coverage.
21:45 DaemonFC; Many people don't bother to do extremely long OCIs with these cars because they don't make sense anyway anymore.
21:45 DaemonFC; It costs $13 per quart for the oil I use, and the Euro stuff usually ranges between $16.99 and $18.99 per quart.
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21:46 DaemonFC; That's one of the reasons why doing a proper oil change that won't sludge up a Euro car is like $150, when you can get a "full synthetic" oil change on an American car at a shop for like $50-60.
21:47 DaemonFC; The Euro stuff adds about $6 per quart at retail, and they have to put like 7 or 8 quarts in a BMW because they leak and burn so much oil that you have to just figure the owner is a retard and won't check it and you put in like 2-3 extra quarts to sacrifice between oil changes so they won't need to top off.
21:48 DaemonFC; You only have to put 4.5 quarts in a Buick 3.8 V6, and most of them don't consume outrageous amounts of oil. They can develop a gasket leak, but you should fix that, not pour oil into it every week or two.
21:49 DaemonFC; Unless it's a very costly gasket leak to fix. Some of them had a slight leak from the exhaust manifold gasket, and that's like an $850 job because it's such a pain to get at, which is an unusual exception.
21:49 DaemonFC; Most of them never leak very much, so the economics favor adding a little oil now and then.
21:51 DaemonFC; The Buick I have was built after GM "improved" the valve cover gaskets on the Impala that were known to leak, so they already had improved gaskets all around from the factory, and many of them simply don't leak like that anymore.
21:51 DaemonFC; I was looking around, and they call it the same engine, but it's really not.
21:51 DaemonFC; They use metal where the Impala had cheap rubber and plastic.
21:52 DaemonFC; It's pretty clear that with the Impala they were trying to hit a price point.
21:52 DaemonFC; When you have to cut $13,000 off the MSRP, something's getting sacrificed.
21:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, It's clear that what they make now is absolute garbage. It is not equal to or better than what it's replacing.
21:53 DaemonFC; But they notice their customers buy it anyway, so no incentive to improve.
21:53 DaemonFC; If anything, they can all collude to go to the shitter together so you have nowhere to turn to.
21:54 DaemonFC; Then a slightly rusty fender 15 years in is going to be the least of your worries.
21:54 DaemonFC; I look around town and people driving stuff a lot newer than my Buick have severe rust problems.
21:54 DaemonFC; Get an $800 car payment and $200 insurance they said. It'll be fun they said!
21:54 DaemonFC; No money left to wash it, so they just let it take a salt bath and don't ever go through the car wash.
21:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, This is what drives idiots into the poorhouse.
21:56 DaemonFC; They buy a brand new car, pay way too much, and then watch it depreciate. And in general, three years later it's not even worth 40% of what they paid for it. What's going on lately is an aberration, and so people take advantage of it to unload crap at high prices that they don't want to deal with.
22:01 Ariadne; man i just have a toyota rav4 hybrid and it seems solid enough
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22:20 MinceR; 18 223058 < DaemonFC> The T-X anti-Terminator Terminator.
22:20 MinceR; also people infected with the Obliterator Virus, iirc
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22:20 TR Bot; Techrights Became (Quite Probably) the Most Active Capsule in Geminispace and Maybe the Largest | Techrights
22:23 DaemonFC; <MinceR> also people infected with the Obliterator Virus, iirc
22:24 DaemonFC; The T-X was mimetic polyalloy over solid endoskeleton with built-in assortments of weaponry. The nanobots it had could only infect other machines and take them over.
22:24 DaemonFC; Which included an array of early 21st century technology, including some vehicles.
22:24 DaemonFC; The T-1s, and the T-850.
22:25 schestowitz_TR; I wrote about wikipedia
22:25 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: wanna check?
22:25 DaemonFC; The T-850 managed to shut itself off and reboot, clearing the program that the nanobots infected him with.
22:25 DaemonFC; It seems that the nanobots primarily function by injecting a malicious program, which does not survive a reboot.
22:26 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, Yeah.
22:26 DaemonFC; I just tore down the old cat tree.
22:26 schestowitz_TR; http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/wikipedia-weakened-by-pr-industry/
22:27 DaemonFC; Time to take it to the dumpster and buy a new one.
22:27 TR Bot; Wikipedia is No Longer Trustworthy on Matters of Commerce and Politics (Because of Financial Motives and Power Incentives) | Techrights
22:29 DaemonFC; MinceR, It was the T-5000 that could infect humans and transform them into machines.
22:29 DaemonFC; It seemed to be advanced enough that their personality and understanding of humans survived completely intact, if they didn't go insane.
22:30 DaemonFC; And this allowed them to be better infiltrators because Skynet could simply corrupt their programming to force it to do what it wanted them to, and leave everything else alone. Which is what the T-H was for, but the T-3000s were far more dangerous.
22:33 DaemonFC; "When it comes to non-scientific articles, Wikipedia has become increasingly troubling if not appalling."
22:34 AdmFubar; https://www.tomshardware.com/news/plastic-processors-for-less-than-a-penny-apiece
22:34 TR Bot; Plastic Processors for Less Than a Penny Apiece | Tom's Hardware
22:34 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, When I added an entire section of Walmart's methods of keeping out labor unions, it was moved to another page that nobody will read.
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22:34 DaemonFC; Microsoft did the same thing. "Criticism of Microsoft".
22:34 DaemonFC; It's basically a corporate PR splog at this point.
22:37 schestowitz_TR; yeah
22:37 schestowitz_TR; so you too noticved
22:37 schestowitz_TR; I corrected abouyt 10 typos
22:37 schestowitz_TR; any left that ytou can see?
22:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz_TR, I even tried to include a short piece about how MP3 patent licensing was a complete free for all and Thomson was the recipient of a lawsuit from a different patent troll.
22:37 DaemonFC; And that got sanitized.
22:38 schestowitz_TR; of course
22:38 schestowitz_TR; you wasted your time ;-)
22:38 schestowitz_TR; I always say that about wikipedia
22:38 schestowitz_TR; even if you edited it 20 years ago
22:38 schestowitz_TR; it would likely bbe rewritten or edited away by now
22:39 DaemonFC; MP3 is in the public domain, but the companies that made it dangerous to go near until it was technically obsolete anyway are still around and using the same tactics against people who "infringe" on other MPEG codecs, and they set up "license pools" to try to figure out how Opus and AV1 "infringe" so that they can shake people down for things they didn't even come up with specifications for.
22:39 TR News; Wikipedia is No Longer Trustworthy on Matters of Commerce and Politics (Because of Financial Motives and Power Incentives) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/wikipedia-weakened-by-pr-industry/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/18/wikipedia-weakened-by-pr-industry/
22:40 DaemonFC; The dedicated hardware media players are dead and gone, and the expansion of phone storage is heading that way too, to pressure people into the clown.
22:40 DaemonFC; So you have to make the files a lot smaller than where MP3 sounds good, and to do that you really need to go back to original rips (lossless) and make 128k Opus files out of them.
22:40 DaemonFC; You can save something like half the space without compromising anything, vs. ripping to MP3.
22:41 DaemonFC; MP3s on an Android phone were really very little trouble with the cheap cheap price of SD card storage.
22:41 DaemonFC; But they're cutting corners on the phones now and if you want to store any sizable collection of portable music, you need Opus.
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22:42 MinceR; 18 232916 < DaemonFC> MinceR, It was the T-5000 that could infect humans and transform them into machines.
22:42 MinceR; so could the Techno-Organic Virus
22:43 DaemonFC; I'm not a programmer, but I can take a look at the MP3 specification documents at a high level and tell you how counterproductive most of it is.
22:43 DaemonFC; It's completely over-designed, and not in a good way.
22:44 DaemonFC; Most people wouldn't ever look at the specifications. They'd just say "Oh yeah, of course you need to use the highest VBR setting or it'll sound really really bad!".
22:44 DaemonFC; So a lot of times the file is more than double the size it needs to be in Opus to sound as good.
22:44 DaemonFC; It's a total mess.
22:45 DaemonFC; And you can take any codec and dial up the bitrate until it sounds or looks good, if you are okay with using a lot of storage.
22:46 DaemonFC; If you give MPEG-4 AVC 4 GB to encode a Blu Ray rip it will look as good as a 2 GB HEVC or AV1 version, but the problem is you've just halved the number of files you can store.
22:47 DaemonFC; There's always going to be value in more efficient compressions, and unfortunately a lot of that reasoning is that manufacturers can cut 25 cents off the price to make an Android phone AND Google wants you to subscribe to things.
22:47 DaemonFC; With the crashing price of flash storage, we should be talking about phones that fit in your pocket and have a terabyte on them.
22:47 DaemonFC; But things are backsliding terribly.
22:49 DaemonFC; When Apple went from hard drive iPods to flash storage iPods I was livid, right?
22:49 DaemonFC; All of a sudden you went from being able to store a virtually unlimited number of MP3s. Like hundreds of thousands, potentially, to like maybe 4,000-5,000?
22:50 DaemonFC; And that didn't even cover a quarter of the number that I really wanted on there.
22:50 DaemonFC; And then here we are 15 years later and the iPhone has as much storage as those shitty 2007 iPods.
22:51 DaemonFC; They're just not very practical, and people ask why I don't have one. It doesn't work with any of the things I use and you more or less have to give up and pay more money to make it do anything, and you never get to stop.
22:52 DaemonFC; I don't even like the idea of a vacuum cleaner that makes me go out and buy bags.
22:52 DaemonFC; Do you really think I'm going to pay $14.99 a month to listen to music or $100 a month to stream things that will be on DVD at the library in like 2 months?
22:52 DaemonFC; Fuck no.
22:53 DaemonFC; They can take those ~$1200-1400 a year subscriptions and cram it up their ass.
22:53 DaemonFC; My money doesn't grow on trees and it gets used to buy actual things.
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
23:03 schestowitz_TR; DaemonFC: another read?
23:05 MinceR; 18 234930 < DaemonFC> When Apple went from hard drive iPods to flash storage iPods I was livid, right?
23:05 MinceR; why would you even care about hypePods?
23:05 MinceR; pretty much every other PMP was superior
23:05 MinceR; and hypePods weren't even the first to market
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23:06 schestowitz_TR; feshen!
23:07 MinceR; :>
23:08 schestowitz_TR; it is true though
23:08 schestowitz_TR; in my experience
23:08 schestowitz_TR; around 2003 the people who wanted these were after the brand/design
23:08 schestowitz_TR; not the features
23:08 DaemonFC; <MinceR> pretty much every other PMP was superior
23:09 DaemonFC; I got one free and just decided to make the best of it.
23:09 DaemonFC; It played MP3s and there was a reversed engineered library to talk to it from Rhythmbox.
23:10 DaemonFC; If you connected it to iTunes, Apple kept flash updating it without asking and then libimobiledevice had to figure it out and you had to wait a while before it worked again, but I never connected it to iTunes, so that didn't affect me.
23:10 DaemonFC; Back then you actually had to make some mistake like that to open up a backdoor into your hardware. The iPod didn't have an Internet connection of its own, so for Apple to go digging around fucking it up for you, you had to connect it to iTunes.
23:11 DaemonFC; So assuming you didn't, the fact that it ran on proprietary software didn't really matter.
23:11 MinceR; its format support was still lacking
23:11 MinceR; and it still needed some software running on a PC to hold its hand so you could feed it files
23:11 DaemonFC; It's like Richard Stallman talking about whether the program inside your coffee maker that changes the brew settings between mild and bold isn't important because nobody updates it. It isn't connected to anything. So it can't hurt you.
23:12 DaemonFC; It's no different, in function, than a physical switch that you turn one way or the other at this point.
23:12 MinceR; even a coffee maker can be poorly designed
23:12 DaemonFC; Well, the Keurig 2.0 could hurt you.
23:12 DaemonFC; It was designed to refuse non-Keurig pods to keep prices high even after their patent expired.
23:12 MinceR; but i prefer simpler coffee brewing methods to espresso anyway
23:12 DaemonFC; It looked for trademarked logos on the lid nobody else could use.
23:13 DaemonFC; So there was this thing called "Freedom Clip" that you could buy that you shoved into the thing and you'd basically just remove the lid from one Keurig pod and stick it into the clip and put that into the coffee machine, and it wouldn't refuse to brew your coffee anymore.
23:14 TR News; Focus on the Concepts, Focus on Software Freedom (and Other Freedoms) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/focus-on-concepts/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/18/focus-on-concepts/
23:14 TR Bot; Focus on the Concepts, Focus on Software Freedom (and Other Freedoms) | Techrights
23:14 DaemonFC; And the beauty of this is that they were just selling you a piece of plastic. So there was no infringement case to be had on the people that made the thing.
23:14 DaemonFC; It was up to the user to take a lid off a Keurig pod and stick it in there.
23:15 DaemonFC; But the K 2.0 did poorly once people paid like over $200 for the stupid thing and it wouldn't brew their coffee and they went "What the fuck is this? I spent $200 on this goddamned thing?" and word spread, and sales crashed.
23:15 DaemonFC; And that's exactly what should happen to Apple and Microsoft, but they've established that people expect artificial malfunctions in their computer that only serve to make the company an endless stream of money.
23:16 DaemonFC; When a coffee maker did it, it was new for coffee makers and so people didn't accept it.
23:23 DaemonFC; Here's part of this next post:
23:23 DaemonFC; "The smartest person who ever lived was not Albert Einstein. Einstein figured out laws of physics and theoretical physics that are still in place and widely accepted today, and that's brilliant, but the smartest person to ever live was the person who convinced Americans to get rid of public transit and buy oil, gas, car payments, and trips to the muffler shop."
23:24 DaemonFC; "In so doing, turning a bunch of backwards barbarian thugs like the Russians and Saudis into people who can hold our entire economy hostage."
23:26 DaemonFC; "The problem of what to do about transportation costs isn't going away, and neither is oil and gasoline. Electric Vehicles may take some market share, but right now there's hardly a place to charge them, and it's another Robin Hood in Reverse, because rich people plugging them in take advantage of the tax breaks and low electric rates that poorer people have to foot the bill for."
23:29 DaemonFC; "When the dust settles, I also don't believe that Tesla will be around selling and servicing them, because it was losing money and propped up by dwindling tax incentives and CAFE credits that real car companies are sick of paying, and realizing that they can convert their luxury brands over to electric and offset their gasoline markets, and quit paying Elon Musk. "
23:29 DaemonFC; (The famous "free speech absolutist" who says he wants Twitter so everyone can speak freely, yet who initiated a Stalinist Purge of SpaceX just this morning because of a letter signed by several hundred employees that criticized him.)
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23:31 TR News; This IPFS video admits it's "affiliate link", basically spam for "unstoppable domains" . Fails to actually show what IPFS does and how it works, mostly promotes this rather edge company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GERBV2Bv-A4
23:31 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=GERBV2Bv-A4
23:31 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | The Future Internet - Invidious
23:32 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166202
23:32 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
23:33 TR News; As Gemini space (or Geminispace) continues to expand our focus on it increases; today we take a quick look/stock of the scale of our capsule and how fast it grows http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/geminispace-in-perspective/
23:33 TR Bot; Techrights Became (Quite Probably) the Most Active Capsule in Geminispace and Maybe the Largest | Techrights
23:33 TR News; Wikipedia may in fact face an existential crisis in the future as its reputation and the degree of trust it deserves diminishes; its not the fault of people who run Wikipedia as much as it is the fault of people who game Wikipedia http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/wikipedia-weakened-by-pr-industry/
23:33 TR Bot; Wikipedia is No Longer Trustworthy on Matters of Commerce and Politics (Because of Financial Motives and Power Incentives) | Techrights
23:33 TR News; Software Freedom (as in Free/Libre/Open Source software) and GNU/Linux matter; but the latter are brands and we have other essential freedoms which need guarding http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/focus-on-concepts/
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23:36 TR News; Today's Slashdot hates Linux so much that it helps Microsoft-funded ZDNet spread anti-Linux FUD https://linux.slashdot.org/story/22/06/18/2046253/a-linux-botnet-that-spreads-using-stolen-ssh-keys"
23:36 TR Bot; A Linux Botnet That Spreads Using Stolen SSH Keys - Slashdot
23:37 TR News; "We are going to learn the difference between DNF and YUM package managers in this article. But first, lets take a look at what both these YUM and DNF are." https://bytexd.com/dnf-vs-yum/
23:37 TR Bot; vs YUM: Differences between DNF and YUM Package Managers - ByteXD
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23:38 TR News; "Have you ever felt like streaming websites are way too bloated and you just want to watch your streams in peace, well you're in luck because StreamLink is here to save the day." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YG1Fl2J7RV4
23:38 TR Bot; StreamLink: Pipe Any Streamer Into Your Video Player - Invidious
23:40 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/riddU9T
23:40 TR Bot; Baby Prince - Album on Imgur
23:41 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166203
23:41 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:42 TR News; 13 Hot Free and Open Source Java Microframeworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166204
23:42 TR Bot; 13 Hot Free and Open Source Java Microframeworks | Tux Machines
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23:58 TR News; It looks like xchat as packaged in some distro basically removed freenode without asking for consent, along with all settings, inserting libera instead
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