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00:01 TR News; Software Patents: "The 942 patent relates to automatic file sharing across a distributed network." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/15/topia-technology-patent-challenged
00:01 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/15/topia-technology-patent-challenged https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/15/topia-technology-patent-challenged
00:01 TR Bot; Topia Technology patent challenged Unified Patents
00:04 TR News; "The 257 patent relates to transmitting digital content from a mobile apparatus to a wireless output device and has been asserted against Roku." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/flexiworld-patent-challenged
00:04 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/flexiworld-patent-challenged https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/11/flexiworld-patent-challenged
00:04 TR Bot; Flexiworld patent challenged Unified Patents
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00:37 bnchs__; https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/ADV200011
00:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: microsoft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/ADV200011 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://msrc.microsoft.com/update-guide/vulnerability/ADV200011
00:37 TR Bot; Security Update Guide - Microsoft Security Response Center
00:39 matey; windows has an remote arbitrary code execution vulnerability called updates
00:39 matey; which is exploited by microsoft
00:39 matey; it hasnt been patched in a decade or more
00:41 matey; windows ships with ransomware on fresh install
00:41 matey; called drm
00:42 matey; there are tools to fix it but theyre illegal
00:50 AltLink_c52c; [:R] matey If you want to take the red pill torify everything on your router
00:50 AltLink_c52c; [:R] then most of web will suddenly turn hostile to you
00:50 AltLink_c52c; [:R] It may be hard to adapt at first if you are addict to those sites
00:50 AltLink_c52c; [:R] but you will get used to it after some years later.
00:52 bnchs__; AltLink_c52c, why are you talking?
00:54 TR News; "Incidentally, this fact is of course driving the centralization of email, because the one surefire way to ensure your email is not marked as spam is to have it delivered by Google, MS, Apple, etc." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-27-Email-thoughts.txt
00:54 matey; /me giggles
00:54 matey; it only talks to me, bnchs__
00:55 matey; /me has the magic
00:55 matey; matey If you want to take the red pill torify everything on your router <- how is this different from browsing with tor browser in practical terms
00:57 AltLink_c52c; [:R] bnchs__, why are you asking? ;-)
00:58 bnchs__; because aren't you supposed to be a bot
00:58 matey; turns out the other thing is a bot
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 332.13
01:00 AltLink_c52c; [:R] The difference is just-a-browser or all-internet-session.
01:00 AltLink_c52c; [:R] Browser /vs/ Everything(chat app, mail, etc)
01:00 matey; i think you may overestimate the amount of internet-connected software i use
01:01 AltLink_c52c; [:R] Both are bots - it is just.. sometimes the Synth use the Altlink_(4 letters here) account
01:01 matey; although i should probably isolate my pdf reader just to be sure :)
01:01 TR News; "Sometimes I need to convert some currencies but I don't want to have to go to my web browser luckily though tools like Forx exist to help me do exactly what I need for both fiat and cryptocurrencies." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdqk5Yu61YU
01:01 TR Bot; https://y.com.sb/watch?v=Sdqk5Yu61YU
01:01 TR Bot; y.com.sb | Calculate Exchange Rates In The Terminal With ForX - Invidious
01:01 matey; someone might know im reading an old sci classic on it
01:01 matey; scifi
01:02 matey; but actually i think i got that as epub and then unzipped it, so
01:02 TR News; Linux 5.18-rc3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163826
01:03 TR Bot; Linux 5.18-rc3 | Tux Machines
01:06 TR News; Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163827
01:06 TR Bot; Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux and More | Tux Machines
01:06 TR News; postmarketOS // v21.12 Service Pack 4 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163828
01:06 TR Bot; postmarketOS // v21.12 Service Pack 4 | Tux Machines
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01:10 schestowitz-TR; [00:58] <bnchs__> because aren't you supposed to be a bot
01:11 schestowitz-TR; bot can be hybrid
01:11 schestowitz-TR; I can just echo something > ii path
01:11 schestowitz-TR; and the bots would say "something"...
01:12 schestowitz-TR; You can see how all the bots work by examining the source coed
01:12 schestowitz; http://gemini.techrights.org/proxy?url=gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/
01:13 TR Bot; Gemini Proxy for Techrights
01:33 matey; there really isnt enough science (or scientific attitude) in the free software movement
01:33 matey; you dont need to throw ethics away to have science. you can start with the 4 freedoms as a requirement, for example
01:33 matey; i think its clear enough that if you dont have the 4 freedoms its not free software
01:34 MinceR; "upon blind faith they place reliance / what we need more of science!"
01:34 MinceR; oops
01:34 MinceR; "upon blind faith they place reliance / what we need more of is science!"
01:35 matey; "if i had a million dollars, if i had a million dollars, i would buy you a k-car / a nice reliant automobile!"
01:36 matey; but i mean, the copyleft / permissive thing is based on theory, and the theory should be something we could test and settle once and for all
01:36 matey; this is just the most obvious example (to me) there are other examples where science could help free software
01:37 matey; ive heard plenty of theories, and theyre worth considering
01:37 matey; we also have a lot more data than we did in 1997
01:38 matey; but it would be nice to have a clearer understanding of the actual effects of gpl vs 3-clause bsd for example
01:39 matey; because calling it a "pushover" license not only glosses over the intentions of some projects using it (which isnt really about what the phrase "pushover license" implies)
01:39 matey; you might get more people writing a project LIKE GNU under a permissive license
01:40 matey; i hate this lack of science on both sides of the argument-- its ASSUMED that people contribute more under a permissive license
01:40 matey; id like to see this settled with facts and a broad and detailed assessment
01:40 matey; which is either a job that would take a year or more, or a job that would take a dozen or more people
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01:41 matey; but no ones interested in doing this?
01:41 matey; okay, lets just keep up the rah-rah-rah then
01:41 matey; i mean there are clearly merits to both. and imo if you have a preference youre entitled to it
01:42 matey; so you dont need to justify the choice-- only some of the claims already being made
01:42 matey; itd be nice to see how much they hold up under scrutiny / inquiry
01:43 TR News; EPO in 2021: Less About Europe, Less About Science, Less About Quality (or Compliance), and More About Weapons or Monopolies on Vaccines | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/faked-growth/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/faked-growth/
01:43 matey; im actually doing research tangential to this, which may (eventually) shed some light on this, but a group of 5 people with the right methods could do a better job
01:43 TR Bot; EPO in 2021: Less About Europe, Less About Science, Less About Quality (or Compliance), and More About Weapons or Monopolies on Vaccines | Techrights
01:44 matey; all my research builds several themes together, so any findings i come up with are going to be along several different axes
01:44 matey; for example, my data will be useless to anyone who wants to see whether any of this applies to github, since im interested almost exclusively in things that ARENT on github
01:45 matey; if its on github, youve already fucked up
01:45 matey; solution: move from github
01:45 matey; until they do that, im not very interested
01:45 matey; people show me new software. its on github. i mostly pretend it doesnt exist
01:46 matey; i spent 10 fucking years getting away from microsoft
01:46 matey; theyre asking me to go back? fuck no
01:46 matey; already left that cult
01:47 matey; project on github: "we care about your freedom SORT OF"
01:47 matey; youre open source, i get it (gnu project)
01:48 matey; the direction copyleft is headed in worries me a little bit
01:48 matey; on the one hand, theres (possibly fud) about how its too weak in any hands but those who wrote it to defend it
01:48 matey; making it next to useless
01:48 matey; on the other, theres "hope" about making it so anyone can defend it...
01:49 matey; sounds a like a good thing!
01:49 matey; but wait, copyright trolls are a thing
01:49 matey; what if microsoft can defend gpl code it didnt write?
01:49 matey; and forbid you from using it...
01:50 matey; oh, youve been pretty good about including source code, but copyright is nasty, maybe theres some problem with something and
01:50 matey; ah, now a lawsuit
01:50 matey; if it wasnt for corporations like microsoft this would be an absurdist concern
01:50 matey; if it werent for nasty little shits like copyright trolls this would be an absurdist concern
01:50 matey; i dont think its absurd at all
01:52 matey; this makes me wonder if permissive isnt a little safer at guaranteeing freedom 0 (note please that part of the reason rms went with copyleft is that he got fucked out of his own work using permissive-- back when these issues were MUCH less familiar to the public)
01:52 schestowitz-TR; github is declining
01:52 schestowitz-TR; copilot also
01:52 matey; bullshit
01:52 schestowitz-TR; in relative terms
01:52 matey; yeah
01:52 schestowitz-TR; maybe not absolute terms
01:52 schestowitz-TR; but relative
01:52 matey; realtive to significant terms
01:52 schestowitz-TR; the market is being saturated
01:52 schestowitz-TR; see skype in 2012
01:53 schestowitz-TR; versus 2022
01:53 schestowitz-TR; but we need to keep pushing people to RE-consider their code hosting
01:53 matey; apples and orangutans
01:53 matey; <schestowitz-TR> but we need to keep pushing people to RE-consider their code hosting <- yes
01:53 schestowitz-TR; many people are hearing of github and start thinking
01:53 schestowitz-TR; "err... not sure about this, what are the OTHER options"
01:53 schestowitz-TR; and this is what we want
01:54 schestowitz-TR; the youtube-dl debacle was good
01:54 schestowitz-TR; and recent we showed 2000 other takedown this past year
01:54 matey; sourcehut isnt really better though
01:54 schestowitz-TR; microsoft obeys like 99% of them
01:54 matey; <schestowitz-TR> the youtube-dl debacle was good <- i think you overestimate its impact
01:54 matey; for one it wasnt the first of its kind
01:54 schestowitz-TR; sourcehut is ok for some things
01:54 matey; for another, they didnt move
01:54 schestowitz-TR; I am not VERY familiar with it
01:54 schestowitz-TR; but I checked about 100 projects in it
01:55 schestowitz-TR; it's nice and simple
01:55 matey; sourcehut, you stop paying they delete your repo
01:55 schestowitz-TR; codeberg is... interestingh
01:55 matey; they should just archive it.
01:55 matey; whats wrong with codeberg? i dont pay it any attention yet
01:55 schestowitz-TR; there's no "Free" hosting
01:55 matey; i mean if somethings wrong with it i woudlnt know
01:55 schestowitz-TR; at least they are HONEST
01:55 schestowitz-TR; gulagtube is NOT "free" video hosting
01:55 matey; there no free hosting with sourcehut either
01:55 schestowitz-TR; many people realise this when it's too late
01:56 matey; but sourcehut will delete your repo for non-payment
01:56 schestowitz-TR; vimeo as well
01:56 schestowitz-TR; sending $10,000 bills to poor orgs and people
01:56 schestowitz-TR; matey: joindiapora zaps your account even when you DO pay
01:56 schestowitz-TR; I paid every year
01:56 matey; lol
01:56 matey; diaspora is a farce
01:56 schestowitz-TR; and still everything got taken down
01:57 schestowitz-TR; I even offered to host the darn thing
01:57 matey; fediverse is a scam
01:57 schestowitz-TR; but had many second thoughts, without yet knowing how much of a mess the backend wa
01:57 schestowitz-TR; *was
01:57 schestowitz-TR; even the core diaspora project folks did not wish to maintain it
01:57 matey; thats because they lost the best one
01:58 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/02/10/social-control-media-bubbles/
01:58 TR Bot; Social Control Media is a Bubble and JoinDiaspora Might be the Next Casualty | Techrights
01:58 schestowitz-TR; it's not a scam either
01:58 matey; also they probably looked at what they created and thought "shit, we cant create a flood!"
01:58 schestowitz-TR; it's something that had a purpose at one point
01:58 schestowitz-TR; and momentum
01:58 matey; it's not a scam either <- well, none of the claims it makes are worth shit
01:58 schestowitz-TR; but it outlived that purpose
01:58 schestowitz-TR; society is moving on
01:59 matey; it's something that had a purpose at one point <- no it had a goal
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 367.16
01:59 matey; it never met it
01:59 matey; they still make the same bullshit promises
01:59 matey; = scam
01:59 matey; now im not blaming the original devs for that
01:59 matey; just the people who promote it
01:59 matey; theyre the ones who make it a scam
02:00 matey; i mean the california gold rush wasnt a scam, but if you sold people tickets to go there now, it probably would be
02:00 matey; lots of people actually got rich, it wasnt an mlm scheme
02:00 matey; but i dont figure anyone is likely to have that sort of luck now
02:01 matey; im sure any gold-rich land left is owned by someone
02:01 TR News; [Meme] Antnio de Cutter | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-antonio-de-cutter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-antonio-de-cutter/
02:01 TR Bot; [Meme] Antnio de Cutter | Techrights
02:02 matey; diaspora talked about being able to IMPORT what you could export for like a decade
02:02 matey; it takes them a decade to make a feature that was in the ORIGINAL brochure? cmon!
02:02 schestowitz-TR; gold is also a "scam"
02:02 matey; gold is a commodity. capitalism is a scam.
02:03 matey; diamonds are a scam
02:03 matey; theyre not worth what you pay for them, at all
02:03 matey; the "value" is fucked with in a number of ways
02:04 matey; this is why the gold / silver people, as far as i know, never say buy diamonds!
02:04 matey; if youre smuggling wealth out of nazi germany, maybe diamonds are good for that :)
02:05 matey; diamonds must be profitable if theyre stolen
02:05 schestowitz-TR; no
02:05 schestowitz-TR; they derive value from the brand they're tied to
02:05 schestowitz-TR; de bohr
02:05 schestowitz-TR; or whatever
02:05 schestowitz-TR; cartier
02:05 matey; there you go
02:05 schestowitz-TR; a diamond on its own could be 'fake'
02:05 schestowitz-TR; i.e. made in a factory
02:06 schestowitz-TR; using the same process
02:06 schestowitz-TR; but without the "brand"
02:06 matey; i think theyre still pretty good at telling which is which
02:06 matey; im not a diamond expert
02:06 schestowitz-TR; like 'fake' so-called 'designer' bags
02:06 matey; i do know their value is tampered with and more artificial than gold or silver
02:06 matey; which im not promoting, only comparing
02:07 matey; the designer bags, UNLIKE diamonds, more like bitcoin, DO go up in value
02:07 schestowitz-TR; bitcoin is fakecoin for some purposes
02:07 schestowitz-TR; very spculative
02:07 matey; for how long do they go up in value? i mean, markets do come and go
02:07 matey; so do stocks
02:08 matey; if i bought a designer bag (im not in the market for one) it might outperform a stock with less risk
02:08 schestowitz-TR; even when you buy something of value with it, you rely on another speculator taking it
02:08 schestowitz-TR; unless the scheme collapses
02:08 matey; but for how long? i dont know
02:08 matey; yes, if it collapses then its worth whatever a collector...
02:08 matey; just like any antique
02:08 schestowitz-TR; cory doctorow envies my working Palm PDAs
02:09 matey; im sure if he wanted a pda he could get someone to make one for him
02:09 schestowitz-TR; some people sold working Macs from the 1980s
02:09 schestowitz-TR; before they know Apple would become such an idiotic cult of suckers
02:09 matey; if i were cory doctor and i wanted a pda id just go to the hackaday people and say "make me a pda please, i have money"
02:09 schestowitz-TR; there's precursor from bunny huang
02:09 schestowitz-TR; but it's no original Palm
02:10 matey; there must be a "pi pilot" or something
02:10 matey; i mean the touchscreens exist
02:10 matey; the processors exist
02:10 matey; even the batteriest exist
02:11 matey; the thing is most people dont want a pda
02:11 matey; this is a fact
02:11 schestowitz-TR; not the same types
02:11 schestowitz-TR; it's like saying
02:11 schestowitz-TR; "make me a nintendo"
02:11 matey; theyd want it to do more. a pda is mostly an offline device
02:11 matey; you could just get a pine phone and never activate the network
02:12 schestowitz-TR; and then they cobble together some arm or x86 processor
02:12 matey; the palm brand isnt that strong
02:12 matey; its got some classic value
02:12 schestowitz-TR; and run an emulation layer
02:12 AdmFubar; happy zombie jesus day to all!
02:12 matey; and then they cobble together some arm or x86 processor <- but this is a good example
02:12 matey; nintendo emulators have more of a market than any sort of pda
02:13 schestowitz-TR; AdmFubar: brainzzz!
02:13 matey; there is an actual market for them
02:13 matey; nintendo even sells a nintendo emulator!
02:13 matey; and i mean its a little mini nintendo using a snapdragon chip
02:13 matey; not the original hardware, less than 1/2 the size
02:13 matey; emulates the original model
02:14 matey; personally i never gave a shit about the 8-bit nitendo. ive certainly used one
02:14 matey; we had an atari 2600
02:14 schestowitz-TR; sort of misses the point of sentimental value
02:14 matey; sort of misses the point of sentimental value <- only for some
02:15 matey; i mean there are two groups, theyre not at war really
02:15 matey; its not like mac vs pc
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02:15 matey; some want the REALEST REAL REAL THING
02:15 matey; for them an emulator is garbage
02:15 matey; more people want an emulator that is reasonably close but doesnt look like shit on a wall-sized plasma screen, and the emulators are better for that
02:15 TR News; "Josh and Kurt talk about a lot of security vulnerabilities in this months Patch Tuesday. Theres also a new Git vulnerability. This sparks the age old question of how fast to patch? The answer isnt binary, the right answer is whatever works best for you, not what someone tells you is best." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/04/17/episode-319-patch-tuesday-with-a-capital-t/
02:15 TR Bot; Episode 319 Patch Tuesday with a capital T Open Source Security
02:15 matey; some are. others are shit of course.
02:16 matey; roughly zero want a pda. im not saying those people dont exist
02:16 matey; im saying if you want to make a homebrew project and sell it, a pda is a GOOD DESIGN but it probably wont be a viable business
02:16 schestowitz-TR; that's just fashionable consumption
02:16 schestowitz-TR; media tells people what they "want"
02:16 matey; you know who would know more about that than i do? the owner of minifree.
02:16 schestowitz-TR; and I don't care for what such media says
02:17 matey; and I don't care for what such media says <- nor do i
02:17 matey; but i know how many people i know want a pda, and its close to 0
02:17 matey; take myself for example
02:17 matey; i had a COUPLE decent pdas
02:17 matey; and i had fun playing with them. they were already obsolete when i got them
02:18 TR News; The EPO inviting loads of software patents may lead to perceived growth, albeit only at the expense of or to the detriment of the patent applications or European Patents that are actually valid as per the EPC http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/faked-growth/
02:18 TR Bot; EPO in 2021: Less About Europe, Less About Science, Less About Quality (or Compliance), and More About Weapons or Monopolies on Vaccines | Techrights
02:18 matey; i used one as an mp3 player, a fancy one
02:18 matey; the novelty wore off and i never miss the thing
02:18 TR News; A couple of years after Benot Battistelli put an end to proper career contracts (rather than 5-year terms without real commitment from the EPO) Antnio Campinos is attacking the pensioners and the staff http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-antonio-de-cutter/
02:18 TR Bot; [Meme] Antnio de Cutter | Techrights
02:18 matey; its just a trinket that doesnt do enough, which is mostly incompatible with the stuff i actually give a shit about
02:19 matey; i think thats how most people feel about them
02:19 matey; minus the handful of enthusiasts i know must exist
02:19 matey; im sure you can find a club, this is not even sarcasm
02:20 psydruid; pda user group
02:20 matey; if i made it myself im sure id appreciate such a trinket a bit more
02:20 matey; still not sure what i would do with it
02:20 matey; pug
02:20 matey; the thing is, ive carried netbooks around for years at a time before
02:20 matey; netbooks are FAR MORE USEFUL to me vs a pda
02:20 matey; 100 times over
02:21 matey; but how often do i use it?
02:21 matey; eh.
02:21 matey; i used to take my computer to a coffee shop, the library
02:21 matey; sometimes id even bring a monitor!
02:22 matey; low power computer, big fucking screen
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02:23 matey; now when i go to the coffee shop i dont stay there
02:23 matey; i go outside and drink my coffee
02:23 matey; if i have a computer with me i probably dont do anything on it
02:23 matey; and if i did, id be wiping the keys down with rubbing alcohol when i got home
02:24 matey; along with much of the rest of the thing
02:24 matey; 70% is actually great for cleaning lcd (dont use 90, it etches)
02:24 TR News; My New Work-From-Home Setup (Changed This Easter/Sunday) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/18/work-from-home-setup/
02:24 TR Bot; Blog Archive My New Work-From-Home Setup (Changed This Easter/Sunday)
02:25 matey; and use isopropyl, dont use that wood shit
02:26 matey; /me thinks about people who spend buckets of cash on fancy electronic cleaning products
02:26 matey; isopropyl and paper towels / cotton swabs
02:26 schestowitz; he's still going: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Templeton
02:26 TR Bot; Brad Templeton - Wikipedia
02:27 matey; who is he
02:27 schestowitz; his site is still pretty much the same as 20 years ago https://www.templetons.com/brad/
02:27 TR Bot; Brad Templeton's Home Page
02:28 matey; blogger?
02:28 schestowitz; Old: https://www.templetons.com/brad/billg.html
02:28 TR Bot; Bill Gates Wealth Index
02:29 matey; /me debates making tea
02:29 matey; i dont really need it, but its fucking delicious
02:30 matey; this must be why decaf was invented (decaf is also a scam)
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02:32 matey; theres a thing you develop in your 40s that tells you to make responsible decisions about what you eat and drink
02:32 matey; i think some people manage to drink or smoke it out of course
02:32 matey; "you shouldnt eat this, its just sugar" *lights a cig* "carry on, then!"
02:33 matey; i never thought id get this thing, but its telling me to just have oatmeal instead of tea
02:33 matey; its like ive been possessed
02:33 matey; i should hasten to note i dont actually HEAR it
02:33 matey; "there are voices in my head, and they tell me to eat healthy"
02:33 matey; "okay buddy, good luck with that"
02:34 matey; "as long as thats all they tell you"
02:34 TR News; "One of my earliest interactions with this protocol is solidly etched in my memory for all the wrong reasons. Back in 1994 or so I was a young teenager excitedly exploring the internet via various door software made available by my local BBS." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2020-05-13-Finger.txt
02:35 matey; of course if i want to just eat 5 chocolate bars right now, theres nothing stopping me
02:36 matey; its just that instead, i find myself agreeing with this "thing", like "sure, whatever-- oatmeal is fine"
02:36 matey; fuckin weird
02:36 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-170422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-170422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-170422.txt
02:36 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, April 17, 2022
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02:37 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, April 17, 2022
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02:38 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, April 17, 2022
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02:39 TR Bot; IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, April 17, 2022
02:42 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-17.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-17.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
02:45 AdmFubar; https://projects.propublica.org/americas-highest-incomes-and-taxes-revealed/#1312256
02:45 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://projects.propublica.org/americas-highest-incomes-and-taxes-revealed/#1312256 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://projects.propublica.org/americas-highest-incomes-and-taxes-revealed/#1312256
02:45 TR Bot; Americas Highest Earners And Their Taxes Revealed | ProPublica
02:48 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E5ofVsxTPoc
02:48 TR Bot; Billy Joel - The Stranger (Audio) - Invidious
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03:02 TR News; All-Time Low for Microsoft Windows This Month | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/windows-lowest-point-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/windows-lowest-point-2022/
03:02 TR Bot; All-Time Low for Microsoft Windows This Month | Techrights
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03:06 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:07 IPFS; QmXiBYqvHTZ9Dm3RPw96UD2o4V4bhgfEZQZj8ds3Wawmnm
03:07 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
03:22 matey; will smith has been banned for 10 years from the oscars
03:22 matey; is he also banned from lieplanet?
03:25 matey; i mean separate-but-equal planet
03:25 matey; because there were two this year, but they were both equal
03:26 matey; all public fsf events are now lieplanet actually
03:26 matey; theyll rebrand as the lsf any day now
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03:55 AdmFubar; https://www.propublica.org/article/if-youre-getting-a-w-2-youre-a-sucker#1312852
03:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/if-youre-getting-a-w-2-youre-a-sucker#1312852 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.propublica.org/article/if-youre-getting-a-w-2-youre-a-sucker#1312852
03:55 TR Bot; If Youre Getting a W-2, Youre a Sucker ProPublica
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04:00 matey; /me giggles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_names_considered_unusual
04:00 TR Bot; Place names considered unusual - Wikipedia
04:01 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_and_Drug_Abuse_Lake
04:01 TR Bot; Alcohol and Drug Abuse Lake - Wikipedia
04:02 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman,_Turkey
04:02 TR Bot; Batman, Turkey - Wikipedia
04:02 matey; and theres no longer a place in austria named fucking
04:03 matey; its called "fugging" now
04:03 matey; presumably in hopes that people will stop stealing the road signs
04:03 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middelfart
04:03 TR Bot; Middelfart - Wikipedia
04:03 matey; of course its from the middle
04:06 matey; In 2010, the inhabitants of Shitterton, Dorset, purchased a 1.5-ton block of Purbeck stone to place at the entrance to Shitterton, carved with the hamlet's name to prevent theft.
04:06 matey; i think 1.5 tonnes should be referred to as a "shittertonne"
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06:49 AltLink_c52c; radscan.CatHub.got= 'Cloudflare infamously provides one-click solution for treating visitors connecting over Tor as second-class citizens'
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08:03 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, April 17, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
08:03 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
08:03 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
08:03 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
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08:08 TR News; "Unfortunately, GEM/XM never made it to market. Luckily, we now have the source code for it" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freegemxm-the-open-source-version | Source: Bryan Lunduke
08:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freegemxm-the-open-source-version https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/freegemxm-the-open-source-version
08:08 TR Bot; FreeGEM/XM -- The open source version of the unreleased, multi-tasking GEM
08:10 TR News; "The problem that all Unix distributions face sooner or later is that the people using them generally want the platonic ideal version" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions | Source: uni Toronto
08:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions
08:10 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/LTSVersusSoftwareVersions
08:10 TR News; "After a long and continuous period of tests and development, we are happy to announce a new release of Hyperbola GNU/Linux" https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/04/16/milky-way-v0-4-release/ | Source: Neritam
08:10 TR Bot; Milky Way v0.4 release neritam
08:11 TR News; "For the technologically inclined, trying out new operating systems can be an adventure." https://www.komando.com/smartphones-gadgets/this-os-that-youve-never-used-may-be-the-easiest-of-them-all/519779/ | Source: Kim Kommando
08:11 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: komando.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.komando.com/smartphones-gadgets/this-os-that-youve-never-used-may-be-the-easiest-of-them-all/519779/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.komando.com/smartphones-gadgets/this-os-that-youve-never-used-may-be-the-easiest-of-them-all/519779/
08:11 TR Bot; alternative operating system is easier than Windows and Apple - Komando.com
08:12 TR News; "While Ubuntu technically came into existence during 2004 it was barely a blip on the radar." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-market-share-is-in-a-nosedive | Source: Bryan Lunduke
08:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-market-share-is-in-a-nosedive https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lunduke.substack.com/p/ubuntu-market-share-is-in-a-nosedive
08:12 TR Bot; Ubuntu market-share is in a nosedive (and that's ok)
08:14 TR News; "An advisory from developer Damien Miller said the new release, OpenSSH 9.0, switched scp, the secure copy tool which is part of the app" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/new-openssh-version-uses-stronger-key-exchange-mechanism-by-default.html | Source: IT Wire
08:14 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/new-openssh-version-uses-stronger-key-exchange-mechanism-by-default.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/new-openssh-version-uses-stronger-key-exchange-mechanism-by-default.html
08:14 TR Bot; - New OpenSSH version uses stronger key-exchange mechanism by default
08:15 TR News; "That said, Im not sure to what extent this will continue: even if the source code to Firefox and the tooling that supports it is technically open source" https://wrla.ch/blog/2022/04/90-days-out-and-in/ | Source: Wrlach
08:15 TR Bot; 90 days out and in
08:16 TR News; "The flexible/tinker-able nature of GNU+Linux is one of the reasons I use this over Windows, iOS or MacOS." https://polarhive.ml/blog/how-i-do-my-computing/ |
08:16 TR Bot; How I do my computing on GNU/Linux - polarhive
08:16 TR News; "So here I am, writing simple APIs for myself with Glitch: request, handler, response" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/having-fun-writing-apis-with-glitch/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
08:16 TR Bot; Having Fun Writing APIs With Glitch - Jim Nielsens Blog
08:17 TR News; "I threw together a small R package {pubcheck} to check local keys, keys in a character vector, and keys residing in [garbage]" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/keeping-those-ssh-keys-safe/ | Source: Rlang
08:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r-bloggers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/keeping-those-ssh-keys-safe/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/keeping-those-ssh-keys-safe/
08:17 TR Bot; Those SSH Keys Safe | R-bloggers
08:24 TR News; Windows TCO: "without any sign, the hard drive or SSD moves south. The problem is that you havent backed up to SpyDrive," https://technewsinc.com/how-to-recover-windows-files-using-linux-live-usb/ |
08:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: technewsinc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://technewsinc.com/how-to-recover-windows-files-using-linux-live-usb/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://technewsinc.com/how-to-recover-windows-files-using-linux-live-usb/
08:24 TR Bot; How to recover Windows files using Linux Live USB
08:24 TR News; Windows TCO: "The flaw in question, CVE-2022-26809, an RPC Runtime Library Remote Code Execution Vulnerability, was given a CVSS rating of 9.8" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/doubts-over-mitigation-advice-for-microsoft-remotely-exploitable-flaw.html | Source: IT Wire
08:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/doubts-over-mitigation-advice-for-microsoft-remotely-exploitable-flaw.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/doubts-over-mitigation-advice-for-microsoft-remotely-exploitable-flaw.html
08:24 TR Bot; - Doubts over mitigation advice for Microsoft remotely exploitable flaw
08:24 TR News; Windows TCO: "That combination makes the discovery of the system, dubbed Pipedream by industrial control security experts Dragos" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/pipedream-malware-russia-lng/ | Source: The Washington Post
08:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/pipedream-malware-russia-lng/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/04/13/pipedream-malware-russia-lng/
08:24 TR News; "I accidentally deleted half the data in a stupid blunder which I will never forgive myself for" https://blog.bithole.dev/mcmap.html |
08:25 TR Bot; Suspected Russian malware's likely target was LNG facilities - The Washington Post
08:25 TR Bot; A Census of Minecraft Servers
08:25 TR News; Windows TCO: https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/oil-india-cyberattack-ib-central-cyber-security-agencies-join-probe/90903148 | Source: India Times
08:25 TR Bot; Ib & Central Cyber Security Agencies Join Probe Into Oil Ransomware Attack, CIO News, ET CIO
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08:25 SomeH4x0r; .dev domain is affected by actual CA censorship already btw
08:26 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 17, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/irc-log-170422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/irc-log-170422/
08:26 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 17, 2022 | Techrights
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08:27 TR News; "The information requests, which were first reported by the Washington Post, come after backlash to the IRS' plan" https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/house-letter-idme | Source: Protocol
08:27 TR Bot; wants records from facial-recognition company ID.me - Protocol
08:28 TR News; "Video conferencing apps (VCAs) make it possible for previously private spaces -- bedrooms, living rooms, and kitchens" https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.06128 | Source: arXiv
08:28 TR Bot; [2204.06128] Are You Really Muted?: A Privacy Analysis of Mute Buttons in Video Conferencing Apps
08:33 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: can you expand on what you mean by that?
08:33 SomeH4x0r; forced HSTS preload (https://hstspreload.org), and so the big browsers will reject anything not signed by CA with no option to proceed
08:33 TR Bot; HSTS Preload List Submission
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08:34 SomeH4x0r; http:// is forcibly upgraded to https:// as well
08:34 TR Bot; not resolve host: is; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// is )
08:34 TR Bot; not resolve host: as; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// as )
08:35 schestowitz-TR; censorship agenda in "security" clothing?
08:35 SomeH4x0r; yes
08:35 schestowitz-TR; CAs can revoke ceritifcates
08:36 TR News; "If you have been lucky enough to reach the city center without needing an ambulance or getting a police ticket" https://today.rtl.lu/your-luxembourg/your-voice/a/1899532.html | Source: RTL
08:36 TR Bot; RTL Today - Your Voice: The mystery of the disappearing bike lanes
08:36 TR News; "Eldorado.gg is a marketplace that gives users access to a wide variety of games with heavily discounted prices and perks" https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4451560 | Source: Taiwan News
08:36 TR Bot; Gaming marketplace enables in-game item trading with Dogecoin crypto wallet | Taiwan News | 2022-02-22 16:40:00
08:36 SomeH4x0r; is it possible Let's Encrypt will stop issuing free (price) certificates, at least automatically, after the evil system is fully established?
08:37 SomeH4x0r; fuck in-game items. Don't waste money.
08:37 schestowitz-TR; the problem is not the price
08:37 schestowitz-TR; the problem is that they gain a lot of control
08:37 schestowitz-TR; and they're controlled by plutocrats and pentagon companies
08:38 SomeH4x0r; I mean so that every webmaster will have to go through a manual validation process just to be able to host a website at all
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08:38 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: it complicates things
08:38 schestowitz-TR; so people will end up outsourcing
08:38 schestowitz-TR; that leads to centralisation
08:38 schestowitz-TR; which in turn helps censorship and propaganda
08:39 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D563.jpg
08:39 schestowitz; (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D206.jpg
08:41 TR News; "So I can't say a lot at the moment but, well, I have a new job that's going to be combining a lot of math, generative art, and coding for the community college. I'm being hired on part time for now leading into a full-time position as soon as the new position is created." gemini://inconsistentuniverse.space/gemlog/2022-04-17-newjob.gmi
08:42 TR News; Microsoft and fraud always find each others: "Activision Blizzard is cooperating with a federal lawsuit and investigation into suspected insider trading" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/activision-blizzard-cooperating-with-regulators-asks-about-alleged-insider-trading-1235131081/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
08:42 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/activision-blizzard-cooperating-with-regulators-asks-about-alleged-insider-trading-1235131081/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/activision-blizzard-cooperating-with-regulators-asks-about-alleged-insider-trading-1235131081/
08:42 TR Bot; Activision Blizzard Cooperating With Investigation Into Alleged Insider Trades The Hollywood Reporter
08:43 TR News; "This is gutter politics at its lowest." https://text.npr.org/1093189740 | Source: NPR
08:43 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1093189740 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1093189740
08:43 TR Bot; Fake sexual material targets the only woman running for president in the Philippines
08:49 TR News; "Franois spoke on a panel with Karrie Karahalios, a computer science professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/researcher-algorithms-cannot-be-blamed-for-disinformation-but-they-contribute-to-it/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
08:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/researcher-algorithms-cannot-be-blamed-for-disinformation-but-they-contribute-to-it/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/04/researcher-algorithms-cannot-be-blamed-for-disinformation-but-they-contribute-to-it/
08:49 TR Bot; Researcher: Algorithms Cannot Be Blamed for Disinformation, But They Contribute to It : Broadband Breakfast
08:49 TR News; "Which is to say Martin uses DNS data but is not as expert as a number of the possible witnesses at trial" https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/04/16/john-durham-continues-to-hide-how-michael-sussmann-helped-kill-the-nyt-story/ | Source: Marcy Wheeler
08:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: emptywheel.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/04/16/john-durham-continues-to-hide-how-michael-sussmann-helped-kill-the-nyt-story/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/04/16/john-durham-continues-to-hide-how-michael-sussmann-helped-kill-the-nyt-story/
08:49 TR Bot; John Durham Continues to Hide How Michael Sussmann Helped Kill the NYT Story - emptywheel
08:49 TR News; "India continues to rank among the top 10 countries to have imprisoned the most number of writers and journalists" https://qz.com/india/2155462/india-ranks-with-china-and-saudi-arabia-for-poor-freedom-of-write/ | Source: Quartz
08:49 TR Bot; India ranks with China and Saudi Arabia for poor freedom to write Quartz India
08:50 TR News; "Russias independent journalists are taking desperate measures to continue working" https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/censorship-forces-russian-paper-to-publish-abroad-25598x2hs | Source: The Sunday Times UK
08:50 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: thetimes.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/censorship-forces-russian-paper-to-publish-abroad-25598x2hs https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/censorship-forces-russian-paper-to-publish-abroad-25598x2hs
08:50 TR Bot; Censorship forces Russian paper to publish abroad | News | The Times
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08:59 TR News; "Speaking on Bloomberg TV, journalist Spencer Soper described problems with the Amazon drone design." https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-amazon-have-to-ground-its-drone-program/ |
08:59 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: retailwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-amazon-have-to-ground-its-drone-program/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-amazon-have-to-ground-its-drone-program/
08:59 TR Bot; Amazon have to ground its drone program? RetailWire
09:01 TR News; "What are the options you have for securing your workpiece to the drill press table? [Rex Krueger] shows us that theres plenty" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/drill-press-piece-fastening-101/ | Source: Hackaday
09:01 TR Bot; Press Piece Fastening 101 | Hackaday
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09:14 matey; well i found the quote at least schestowitz schestowitz-TR
09:14 matey; schestowitz-TR fixosdev was pulling his hair out (metaphorically) over anything with github DEPENDENCIES
09:14 matey; schestowitz-TR which means almost everything
09:14 matey; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-120821.html
09:14 TR Bot; IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, August 12, 2021
09:14 schestowitz-TR; OK, I said metaphorically
09:15 matey; well duh
09:15 matey; i mean how else is that phrase used
09:15 matey; the thing is youre implying that concern over dependencies is absurd or something
09:15 schestowitz-TR; no
09:15 matey; when really, there are two REALLY GOOD reasons to follow that information
09:16 schestowitz-TR; but reading between the lines might lead to such a conclusion
09:16 SomeH4x0r; https://kill-9.xyz/guides/distrust_cloudflare is it useful? Does it have any other intermediates?
09:16 TR Bot; guides - distrust cloudflare
09:16 schestowitz-TR; yes, it's important to understand what happens
09:16 matey; if by reading between the lines you mean "intepreting that phrase the way its basically always intended" then sure
09:16 SomeH4x0r; hi matey also
09:16 matey; hi
09:16 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: clownflare is a dirty bomb
09:16 schestowitz-TR; and they lose money
09:16 matey; but the two reaslly good reasons are:
09:16 schestowitz-TR; so you know they will become evil, very evil, soon
09:16 matey; 1. the POINT of course, is that yes, its basically everything
09:17 schestowitz-TR; not sure if they'll start charging everyone or something worse
09:17 matey; 2. if im trying to recommend the LEAST github-encumbered software, that information helps quantify how encumbered it is or isnt
09:17 matey; or if youre trying to predict the projects most likely to move there soon (as projects that have a lot of gh deps often move there eventually)
09:18 matey; basically "theyre on gh or theyre not" is not very fine grained
09:18 schestowitz-TR; it'll blow up
09:18 schestowitz-TR; it already does
09:18 schestowitz-TR; but too slowly
09:18 schestowitz-TR; if Microsoft tries to manipulate too much, staff and projects walk away
09:18 matey; id ask if youre referring to clownflare or gh but since you make the same argument for basically anything negative, theres little pint
09:18 schestowitz-TR; if not, they carry on losing money
09:19 matey; at which point any project that isnt actively maintained could simply disappear forever.
09:19 schestowitz-TR; clownflare and GH are similar in tihis regard
09:19 schestowitz-TR; they lose money
09:19 schestowitz-TR; they offer a fake, worthless, "service"
09:19 schestowitz-TR; and people do not really need them
09:19 schestowitz-TR; and if they start charging, people will leave
09:19 matey; so even if active projects escape github after its collapse
09:19 matey; theyre still going to wipe out decades of history.
09:19 schestowitz-TR; right
09:20 schestowitz-TR; like Linux pre-git
09:20 schestowitz-TR; it's the projects' fault
09:20 schestowitz-TR; they chose proprietary software
09:20 schestowitz-TR; with NO EXPORT OPTION
09:20 schestowitz-TR; except for git tree
09:21 matey; when github collapses its going to be a fucking mess
09:21 matey; for free software
09:21 schestowitz-TR; yes
09:21 schestowitz-TR; but...
09:21 matey; ive always tried to figure out how much stuff is there
09:21 schestowitz-TR; even without Microsoft
09:21 schestowitz-TR; remember when Ton from Blender said
09:21 matey; based on the fsd id say its more than 50% of our software
09:21 schestowitz-TR; >50% might be OK
09:21 schestowitz-TR; as it used to be HIGHER
09:22 schestowitz-TR; a LOT higher
09:22 schestowitz-TR; like 3 years ago
09:22 matey; 90% is more than 50%
09:22 schestowitz-TR; many of the newer projects explore self-hosting, even without gitlab
09:22 schestowitz-TR; they don't fancy microsoft
09:22 SomeH4x0r; One evil with Blender I know is that it now requires OpenGL version above the one my device supports, and it didn't in before.
09:22 schestowitz-TR; except very dumb or bribed projects
09:22 matey; many of the newer projects explore self-hosting, even without gitlab <- well, about that...
09:22 matey; every month the fsd gets new links approved
09:23 matey; maybe dozens
09:23 matey; about half a dozen of which are not github-based
09:23 matey; so
09:23 matey; the ratio isnt changing like you say, if the fsd is any indicator
09:23 schestowitz-TR; how many of these projects are new?
09:24 schestowitz-TR; as in, past 3 years?
09:24 matey; thats a fair question
09:24 matey; probably most, since the links are being updated BUT
09:24 schestowitz-TR; it's the "fresh blood" argument"
09:24 matey; not all, and not a
09:24 matey; well its your: "many of the newer projects explore self-hosting, even without gitlab"
09:24 schestowitz-TR; about generations that are "next" having to be judged as "the future"
09:24 matey; i think youre sugar-coating this
09:24 schestowitz-TR; not really
09:25 schestowitz-TR; when I first saw github things more than 10 years ago github was considered benign
09:25 matey; ok, let me put it another way: i think youre making up progress that doesnt exist.
09:25 schestowitz-TR; and many people saw it like twitter
09:25 schestowitz-TR; "yay! free hosting!"
09:25 schestowitz-TR; matey: ok, let's look at it from anotrher angle
09:25 schestowitz-TR; they lost a lot of staff
09:25 schestowitz-TR; even CEO
09:25 schestowitz-TR; Windows market share is collapsing
09:26 schestowitz-TR; and Azure did not live up to very old promises
09:26 matey; mmhmm
09:26 schestowitz-TR; they're losing development
09:26 schestowitz-TR; and developers
09:26 schestowitz-TR; 3 years after buying github where are they?
09:26 schestowitz-TR; do people develop more for Windows?
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09:26 schestowitz-TR; I heard rumours from near github
09:26 schestowitz-TR; that github was failing as the goal was to integrate with azur
09:26 schestowitz-TR; to sell subscriptions to clown
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09:28 TR News; "For the electronic badge enthusiast, these last two years have seen something of a famine." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/the-555-gives-the-carolinacon-badge-life/ | Source: Hackaday
09:28 TR Bot; 555 Gives The CarolinaCon Badge Life | Hackaday
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09:29 matey; the other thing thats bad of course
09:29 matey; <schestowitz-TR> they chose proprietary software <-
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09:30 matey; the sheer apathy on the part of of so-called "free software" developers
09:30 schestowitz-TR; there are many psyche types
09:30 matey; 16 by jungs debunked model (i still like it though)
09:30 schestowitz-TR; the hardcore free software people aren't the same as FSD
09:30 schestowitz-TR; (Directory)
09:31 matey; systemd-fsd
09:31 matey; thats another thing though
09:31 schestowitz-TR; if you look at the core GNU projects, a small proportion of them are themselves fully in github
09:31 schestowitz-TR; they depend on some
09:31 matey; ive been through a fuckload of gnu projects, looking up github accounts for admins
09:31 schestowitz-TR; then you have gulag with quite a few of its own repos
09:31 schestowitz-TR; ICBM also
09:31 schestowitz-TR; Intel was infiltrated
09:32 schestowitz-TR; so instead of in-house gitlab (like it used to be) they outsource to Microsoft
09:32 matey; if you look at the core GNU projects, a small proportion of them are themselves fully in githu <- well, i mean
09:32 schestowitz-TR; we published leaks to that effect
09:32 matey; bison is necessary for a LOT of things
09:33 schestowitz-TR; even gnome and kde make their own instances
09:33 matey; the most core stuff for gnu is controlled by ibm
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09:33 matey; gnome isnt even free software
09:33 schestowitz-TR; there, many of the shithubbers are Gulag Summer of Labour interns
09:33 schestowitz-TR; and even that is no longer the case, most of them learn the CIs of the projects
09:33 matey; sourceware.org
09:34 schestowitz-TR; credit to them, at least they made their own instance
09:34 schestowitz-TR; eventually
09:34 matey; red hat did, ibm bought it
09:34 schestowitz-TR; when it comes to distros, it's usually the smaller ones outsourcing
09:34 schestowitz-TR; for financial reasons, I guess
09:35 matey; and im going to guess sourceware predates the github purchase (2018) if not github itself (2008)
09:35 schestowitz-TR; IBM does some of its code hosting internally
09:35 schestowitz-TR; some via GNU
09:35 schestowitz-TR; some of the older stuff is shithub
09:35 schestowitz-TR; but even fedora is changing the direction
09:35 matey; when theyre not a hostage in a lawsuit
09:36 matey; i mean i dont think fedora sued pocock anymore than fedora has its own building
09:36 matey; so they were probably helpless there
09:37 matey; or maybe they said to ibm "dad! the mean debian guy is being mean to me, have your lawyers beat him up"
09:37 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/
09:37 TR Bot; Fedora (Re)Starts Discussing Plan to Delete GitHub (Quit Microsoft Dependence) | Techrights
09:37 matey; there you go
09:38 matey; heres something fun https://fsfellowship.news/contact/
09:38 TR Bot; Contact/Mailing list
09:38 matey; "You are encouraged to meet other fellows at a free software event or use the Fellowship mailing list" links to https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
09:38 TR Bot; not resolve host: lists.fsfellowship.eu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion )
09:38 matey; dead for like 2 weeks
09:38 matey; maybe more
09:39 matey; unannounced i think
09:39 matey; not saying its a huge loss, just interesting (imo)
09:39 TR News; "More than ten years after Megaupload was shut down, the RIAA and MPA are still waiting for their chance to request damages" https://torrentfreak.com/delayed-megaupload-lawsuits-get-assigned-to-ninjavideo-judge-220417/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:39 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/delayed-megaupload-lawsuits-get-assigned-to-ninjavideo-judge-220417/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/delayed-megaupload-lawsuits-get-assigned-to-ninjavideo-judge-220417/
09:39 TR Bot; Megaupload Lawsuits Get Assigned to Ninjavideo Judge * TorrentFreak
09:39 matey; first it was public, then it was private, now its not even archived
09:40 matey; and no one can join unless... actually im not sure they can join at all
09:41 matey; but it was up when he announced the fedora url verdict
09:41 TR News; You're Muted... or are You? Videoconferencing Apps May Listen Even When Mic is Off - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/16/0110219 Source: soylentnews
09:41 TR Bot; You're Muted... or are You? Videoconferencing Apps May Listen Even When Mic is Off - SoylentNews
09:42 schestowitz-TR; you could say it was a failedx experiment like fossforce
09:42 schestowitz-TR; which ended up as a PR front for corporationsd
09:42 schestowitz-TR; shilling for those it was supposed to be a force against
09:42 matey; wait, pocock was a pr front for corporations?
09:42 schestowitz-TR; no
09:43 matey; oh you mean it simply failed
09:43 SomeH4x0r; I doubt computers in their current state can serve for people (not for corporations) no matter what regime there is
09:43 SomeH4x0r; they are too complex and have to be manufactured by corporations, which do abuse their privileged position
09:43 matey; we need free hardware
09:44 SomeH4x0r; also idk if real revolutions are possible anymore because of this. Most people are addicted to their crippled PCs called "smartphones".
09:44 matey; people used to think it was impossible to treat alcoholism
09:45 matey; that was the medical opinion of the day until alcoholics anonymous was formed
09:46 matey; or at least the hard cases
09:46 mjg59_; Pocock set up democratic elections for the transitioning of the fsfellowship to a committee and then refused to give them access to the website
09:46 matey; where people start shaking when they come off it
09:46 TR News; Its Still Stupidly, Ridiculously Difficult To Buy A Dumb TV - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/04/16/1052254 Source: soylentnews
09:46 TR Bot; Its Still Stupidly, Ridiculously Difficult To Buy A Dumb TV - SoylentNews
09:47 matey; Pocock set up democratic elections for the transitioning of the fsfellowship to a committee and then refused to give them access to the website <- im familiar with this
09:47 SomeH4x0r; I have a dumb TV but an evil receiver, I guess
09:47 SomeH4x0r; because these evildoers removed analog TV
09:48 mjg59_; So I don't think it's fair to claim that fsfellowship.eu was a failed experiment - it was driven by an individual more focused on himself than the community he claimed he represented
09:48 matey; "it was driven by an individual more focused on himself than the community he claimed he represented" this is probably a reasonable claim given my experience with pocock
09:48 TR News; "Electromagnetic interference problems can be a real headache to debug." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/measuring-electromagnetic-fields-with-just-an-arduino-and-a-piece-of-wire/ | Source: Hackaday
09:48 TR Bot; Electromagnetic Fields With Just An Arduino And A Piece Of Wire | Hackaday
09:49 TR News; "At their best, laptops are a compromise design" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/laptop-usb-c-charging-hack-lets-you-leave-the-brick-at-home/ | Source: Hackaday
09:49 TR Bot; USB-C Charging Hack Lets You Leave The Brick At Home | Hackaday
09:49 matey; though its probably true of 95% of the movement at this point
09:49 TR News; "The first PCBs we built involved a draftsman laying out large pieces of tape." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/17/kicad-plugin-gives-your-pcbs-that-handmade-look/ | Source: Hackaday
09:49 TR Bot; Plugin Gives Your PCBs That Handmade Look | Hackaday
09:49 matey; the main thing holding it together is hubris and wishful thinking
09:49 matey; id compare it to iraq post saddam
09:51 matey; i believe free software is absolutely necessary, the alternative is people being controlled by tech companies
09:51 matey; just that people who really give a shit about that seem to be a small minority
09:53 matey; idk if real revolutions are possible anymore because of this <- your concept of a real revolution is probably shaped by misconceptions
09:54 TR News; "Tea really is a great thing. When one speaks of self-reliance and homesteading my first thought is "I could never grow enough tea for my own consumption."" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-18-i-guess-i-m-mr-tea.gmi
09:54 matey; however thats true for most people
09:55 matey; my guess is this has stalled for now http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/
09:55 TR Bot; Fedora (Re)Starts Discussing Plan to Delete GitHub (Quit Microsoft Dependence) | Techrights
09:55 TR News; "After decades of Ubuntu use, I've replaced my desktop OS with antiX." gemini://tobykurien.com/microblog.gmi
09:57 TR News; New Releases of Unifont and GNU Mailutils Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163829
09:57 TR Bot; New Releases of Unifont and GNU Mailutils | Tux Machines
09:57 TR News; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 17th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163830
09:57 TR Bot; 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 17th, 2022 | Tux Machines
09:57 TR News; Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163831
09:57 TR Bot; Ubuntu Kylin 22.04 LTS - New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines
09:58 TR News; Review: postmarketOS on the PinePhone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163832
09:58 TR Bot; Review: postmarketOS on the PinePhone | Tux Machines
09:58 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163833
09:58 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:58 matey; pocock doesnt seem to give a shit about anyone using his mailing list
09:58 matey; he hasnt said anything about it, complete radio silence
09:59 matey; he runs several websites, its been weeks, he doesnt bother mentioning it
10:00 schestowitz-TR; matey: yes, fedora has not said much about the self-hosting thing
10:00 schestowitz-TR; but I don't suppose it has been abandoned either
10:01 matey; it would be tricky for fedora to do anything
10:02 matey; whenever they seem to have an idea, ibm says something like "fuck you-- cough cough im sorry, allergies"
10:03 matey; i mean its admirable to try to leave github
10:03 matey; they should leave ibm too
10:03 matey; i suppose theyll have to leave the trademark with ibm, im not sure who owns that one
10:04 matey; Note that this agreement is between Red Hat, Inc., which owns the Fedora trademarks and administers them on behalf of the entire community, and the owner or potential owner of a particular domain that uses the Fedora trademark in its name to identify it with the Fedora community, distribution, or Project.
10:04 matey; yep.
10:04 matey; that figures, since ibm sued pocock over it
10:05 matey; i feel confident the project itself didnt instigate that
10:05 matey; the fedora logo looks a bit like a couple of nooses now
10:05 matey; #fedoradidntkillitself
10:09 matey; Ironically, the origins of the name "Red Hat" can be traced to Cornell itself. The company took its name from a red Cornell lacrosse team hat that was owned by founder Mark Ewing's grandfather, Webbink said.-- https://www.computerworld.com/article/2573687/researchers-dispute-red-hat-s-fedora-trademark.html
10:09 TR Bot; dispute Red Hat's Fedora trademark | Computerworld
10:09 matey; 19-year-old article?
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10:14 matey; The term "fedora" first emerged in the early 1890s, when it was connected with a play titled Fdora in which the famous cross-dressing actress Sarah Bernhardt wore a creased, soft felted hat. Until the point, soft felt hats were mostly worn by lower- and middle-class men who likely owned only one hat that needed to be multi-purpose.
10:15 TR News; "Long term support" Unixes and versions of software in them Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163834
10:15 TR Bot; "Long term support" Unixes and versions of software in them | Tux Machines
10:15 TR News; Ubuntu market-share is in a nosedive (and thats ok) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163835
10:15 TR Bot; Ubuntu market-share is in a nosedive (and that's ok) | Tux Machines
10:15 TR News; Security and Proprietary Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163836
10:15 TR Bot; Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines
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10:17 AltLink_c52c; [:R] Speaking of GitHub did you noticed GH started blocking some Tor exits?
10:17 AltLink_c52c; [:R] Try opening this link in Tor Browser: https://docs.github.com/en/rest/reference/issues
10:17 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://docs.github.com/en/rest/reference/issues )
10:17 AltLink_c52c; [:R] Title: Microsoft, Body: The request is blocked.
10:17 AltLink_c52c; [:R] Rotate the circuit if not blocked.
10:18 schestowitz-TR; Tor is criminals, said a company of criminals
10:20 AltLink_c52c; [:R] I plant, seed and distribute quite a lot of onionsites. I am a bad bad person you might guess lol
10:21 TR News; </li>
10:21 TR News; Nice the hostnames https://netsplit.de/networks/status.php?net=freenode
10:21 TR Bot; NO TITLE
10:22 TR News; Twitter continues to present me with a fake number of impressions. Twitter is FAKE. This hasn't changed since http://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/
10:22 TR Bot; Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | Techrights
10:23 matey; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=HSImTOMYUrM
10:23 TR Bot; Miami Sound Machine - Bad Boy 1986 (official video) - Invidious
10:25 matey; i had no idea she sang that
10:26 matey; /me is pretty sure cats doesnt count as furries, but not completely sure
10:27 TR News; In a nutshell, if you spend a lot of time in front of a computer, then investing a little time every week or every month optimising it for ever-changing workflows is worth the investment. Adding additional hardware is also more economic if you value time. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/18/work-from-home-setup/
10:27 TR Bot; Blog Archive My New Work-From-Home Setup (Changed This Easter/Sunday)
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10:40 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163837
10:40 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
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10:51 TR News; Links 17/04/2022: Linux 5.18 RC3 and postmarketOS 21.12 Service Pack 4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/linux-5-18-rc3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/linux-5-18-rc3/
10:51 TR Bot; Links 17/04/2022: Linux 5.18 RC3 and postmarketOS 21.12 Service Pack 4 | Techrights
10:52 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163838
10:52 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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11:05 TR News; Linux for Smartphones Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163839
11:05 TR Bot; Linux for Smartphones | Tux Machines
11:05 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163840
11:05 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
11:06 TR News; This minutes-old screenshot shows that only ~3 out of 10 machines accessing Web sites run Windows; there are many caveats here, surely, but the trend is rather telling (tailspin) http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/windows-lowest-point-2022/
11:06 TR Bot; All-Time Low for Microsoft Windows This Month | Techrights
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11:23 TR News; Archman 2022.04 is out https://archman.org/
11:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: archman.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://archman.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://archman.org/
11:23 TR Bot; Archman GNU/Linux
11:25 TR News; Why does CNX push Windows crap? Also, the battery cannot possibly last long. This is a trap. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/cheap-7-inch-tablet-intel-atom-z3735g-processor/
11:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/cheap-7-inch-tablet-intel-atom-z3735g-processor/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/cheap-7-inch-tablet-intel-atom-z3735g-processor/
11:25 TR Bot; 7-inch tablet with Intel Atom Z3735G processor sells for $55 - CNX Software
11:27 TR News; "Has Fedora pulled ahead of Ubuntu? We take a look at the new Fedora 36 and Ubuntu 22.04 releases." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148237/double-distro-details-linux-unplugged-454/
11:27 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148237/double-distro-details-linux-unplugged-454/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148237/double-distro-details-linux-unplugged-454/
11:27 TR Bot; Double Distro Details | LINUX Unplugged 454 | Jupiter Broadcasting
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11:55 TR News; Well, it would be a mistake for the "main" Linux to use something controlled by Microsoft (criminals) proprietary software https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-Linux-RandStruct
11:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-Linux-RandStruct https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clang-Linux-RandStruct
11:55 TR Bot; 15 Lands Support To Randomize Structure Layout, Linux Prepares To Use It - Phoronix
12:00 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163841
12:00 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
12:03 TR News; ICBM effect? "The project is transitioning to community development and support as part of the JBoss Tools project. This article breaks down all the information you need to know along with the future roadmap." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/04/18/announcement-red-hat-codeready-studio-reaches-end-life
12:03 TR Bot; Announcement: Red Hat CodeReady Studio reaches end of life | Red Hat Developer
12:05 TR News; Management as a barrier. Ask ICBM... https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/middle-management-frozen
12:05 TR Bot; Is your middle management freezing progress? 4 ways to empower change | The Enterprisers Project
12:09 TR News; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163842
12:09 TR Bot; Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
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12:12 TR News; Malware on the clown. Well, sophos itself makes malicious software. Now in the clown... https://www.telecompaper.com/news/sophos-upgrades-sophos-cloud-workload-protection--1421321
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12:13 TR News; Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/JUJV6BEJAXK5LATTSWGRFZDIAVM7KN4J/ see http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
12:13 TR Bot; Would it be useful to have a video call to discuss the "Deprecate Legacy BIOS" Change proposal? - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
12:13 TR Bot; IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
12:14 TR News; 3 open source tools for people with learning difficulties | Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163843
12:14 TR Bot; 3 open source tools for people with learning difficulties | Opensource.com | Tux Machines
12:14 TR News; [PATCH v2 0/4] virtio-crypto: Improve performance - zhenwei pi https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220418090051.372803-1-pizhenwei@bytedance.com/ Source: bytedance
12:14 TR Bot; [PATCH v2 0/4] virtio-crypto: Improve performance - zhenwei pi
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12:16 TR News; AAEON needs to quit using back-doored hardware... https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/pico-tgu4-semi-is-a-tiger-lake-mini-pc-for-robotics-and-industrial-iot-applications/
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12:16 TR Bot; PICO-TGU4-SEMI is a Tiger Lake mini PC for robotics and industrial IoT applications - CNX Software
12:18 TR News; During the invasion by Russia we saw: 1) how the US can (AND WILL) misuse its control over the Internet. 2) the dangers of centralisation (e.g. the CA "trust" cartel). 3) how dangerous the clown computing lunacy really is. 4) nations should shun proprietary software, for defensive (back doors) and autonomy reasons
12:19 TR News; Thinking social control media protects the masses from abuse of power is conventionality forgetting who owns and controls such platforms
12:20 TR News; Activists with Microsoft Windows on their PCs will never get far; it's like cops with swords instead of batons http://techrights.org/2022/03/21/putin-loves-windows/
12:20 TR Bot; Putins Russia Loves It When Its Enemies Use Microsoft Windows | Techrights
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12:22 TR News; The other FOMO. And fetishists who relish on social CONTROL media are FOMOsexual. "https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/18/fomo-faster-objects-more-objects-real-time-object-detection-embedded-systems
12:22 TR Bot; FOMO (Faster Objects, More Objects) enables real-time object detection on low-end embedded systems - CNX Software
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12:23 TR News; Activism on social control media is a paradox. Imagine fossil fuel objectors doing a truck convoy to make a point.
12:24 TR News; Social control media = herding, sharecropping.
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13:05 psydruid; asiatimes.com looks really broken in Falkon and Netsurf, so the site has made great progress over the past few years
13:09 bnchs; psydruid, great progress on what
13:10 psydruid; bnchs, breaking the web in less popular browsers
13:10 bnchs; well thats the thing about modern websites
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13:36 activelow; it isn't "less popular browsers" themselves, it is borken standards compliance, of standards implemented by netsurf, and standards which are _not_ obsolete
13:36 bnchs; activelow, it may also have to do with google bribing the W3C
13:37 activelow; psydruid: by saying "less popular browsers" you are implying it is the browsers at fault, when instead it is broken standards compliance and the websites which are at fault
13:37 TR News; "The first time I heard of Twtxt was when ew0k/BW added it to his Antenna aggregator." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201191641.gmi
13:37 psydruid; no, I am not implying *anything*
13:37 TR News; "This is not exactly news, but a Gemini group has been officially established on Usenet since what looks like late October. I remember reading about this on the mailing list, but since I have not touched Usenet in ages, I wasn't sure if I should bother." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201021711.gmi
13:37 activelow; bnchs: yes, google is one major trouble source
13:37 activelow; psydruid> bnchs, breaking the web in less popular browsers
13:38 psydruid; they are less used and ignored and instead of that pages are made that work in "popular browers"
13:38 activelow; it is standards compliance which was broken, and the web sites, not "less popular browsers"
13:38 TR News; There will soon be 1900 known and ACTIVE Gemini capsules, says Lupa...
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13:38 psydruid; effectively they don't work in anything but chrome
13:39 psydruid; but sure, let's continue being pedantic as usual
13:41 psydruid; also, whose standards and who sets them?
13:41 activelow; it is not pedantic, it is an important difference
13:41 psydruid; het is gelul in de marge
13:41 activelow; furthermore, playing with firefox-3.6.28 (for various reasons), which too implements those standards which are _not_ obsolete
13:42 activelow; firefox is a popular browser, it is standards compliance which is broken
13:42 bnchs; google helped locking in the web into their browsers by bribing W3C into implementing EME
13:42 psydruid; I don't believe in those standards and compliance with them
13:43 bnchs; and the most used DRM in EME is google's widevine
13:43 psydruid; it's also important who sets the standards
13:43 activelow; by saying "less popular" browsers you are distracting from broken standards compliance, and you are shifting blame onto those browsers
13:43 psydruid; and if they can be considered standards at all
13:43 psydruid; you know what
13:44 psydruid; I'm sodding off and doing something more useful than arguing with you
13:44 psydruid; have fun
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13:53 TR News; IBM and the War (on General-Purpose Computing) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/general-purpose-computing/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/general-purpose-computing/
13:53 TR Bot; IBM and the War (on General-Purpose Computing) | Techrights
13:54 TR News; Each time (EACH TIME) ClownFlare presents you with CAPTCHA challenge it is a failure, a misclassification. It basically deemed you a bot, INCORRECTLY. The same is true for most other CAPTCHA.
13:57 TR News; CAPTCHAs aren't just an accessibility nightmare. Each CAPTCHA is a human rights problem.
13:59 SomeH4x0r; I think most other CAPTCHAs are shown at the end of many forms always
14:02 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163844
14:02 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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14:03 TR News; The Steam Deck is "not a flop" says Captain Obvious at The Verge. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k4cYOtAS-GA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
14:03 TR Bot; The Steam Deck is "not a flop" says Captain Obvious at The Verge. (Plus other Steam Deck news) - Invidious
14:04 TR News; "In the twenty-ninth episode of the WordPress Briefing, Executive Director Josepha Haden Chomphosy reminds us of our WordPress roots blogging and discusses the basics of starting your first blog on WordPress." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/04/episode-29-how-to-make-a-wordpress-blog/
14:04 TR Bot; Episode 29: How to Make a WordPress Blog WordPress News
14:07 TR News; 12 Practical Examples of In Command in [GNU coreutils] https://www.ubuntupit.com/practical-examples-of-ln-command-in-linux/ Source: UbuntuPIT | GNU | Linux
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14:07 TR Bot; 12 Practical Examples of In Command in Linux
14:09 TR News; "We confirm that in 2020 and 2021 we observed and notified the government of the United Kingdom of multiple suspected instances of Pegasus spyware infections within official UK networks." https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/uk-government-officials-targeted-pegasus/
14:09 TR Bot; UK Government Officials Infected with Pegasus - The Citizen Lab
14:10 TR News; CatalanGate: Extensive Mercenary Spyware Operation against Catalans Using Pegasus and Candiru - The Citizen Lab https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/catalangate-extensive-mercenary-spyware-operation-against-catalans-using-pegasus-candiru/ Source: citizenlab
14:10 TR Bot; CatalanGate: Extensive Mercenary Spyware Operation against Catalans Using Pegasus and Candiru - The Citizen Lab
14:10 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, Steam, LINUX Unplugged, and GNU World Order Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163845
14:10 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: WordPress, Steam, LINUX Unplugged, and GNU World Order | Tux Machines
14:13 TR News; Probably more proprietary snakeoil with back doors. Avoid. https://techbuild.africa/sophos-impact-cloud-protection-linux-security/
14:13 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: techbuild.africa | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techbuild.africa/sophos-impact-cloud-protection-linux-security/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://techbuild.africa/sophos-impact-cloud-protection-linux-security/
14:13 TR Bot; Sophos Launches High Impact Cloud Workload Protection Advancements With New Linux, Container Security Offerings
14:21 TR News; How I repurposed an old Raspberry Pi into a travel router Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163846
14:21 TR Bot; How I repurposed an old Raspberry Pi into a travel router | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; cpufreq: intel_pstate: ITMT support for overclocked system https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=03c83982a0278207709143ba78c5a470179febee
14:23 TR Bot; kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
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14:25 TR News; Pay us lots of money for nothing. Diploma mill, "Virtual"... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/digital-credentials-red-hat-certified-professionals see https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Category:Red_Hat
14:25 TR Bot; Digital credentials for Red Hat Certified Professionals
14:25 TR Bot; Category:Red Hat - WikiLeaks
14:28 activelow; neat, pulling in X11/Xorg into the c-only base-system profile, seems ok... testing; gtk2/3 are blocked still (gperf mainly)
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14:30 activelow; it is gtk -> fontconfig -> gperf mainly, which remains a headache, among others, yet fontconfig/gperf prevent proceeding with gtk any further currently
14:31 activelow; anyway, keeping X11 with a c-only base-system profile is a good start
14:33 TR News; LXQt 1.1.0 Releases With Theme Updates, Panel Improvements, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/comment/reply/163800
14:33 TR Bot; Release LXQt 1.1.0 | Tux Machines
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14:49 TR News; Shift Beta 3 Nears Completion, Teaser Video. - MakuluLinux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163847
14:49 TR Bot; Shift Beta 3 Nears Completion, Teaser Video. - MakuluLinux | Tux Machines
14:49 TR News; The Road to New Xubuntu Docs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163848
14:49 TR Bot; The Road to New Xubuntu Docs | Tux Machines
14:52 TR News; Much Awaited New Ubuntu Arrives Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163788#comment-33380
14:52 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 LTS and the Party | Tux Machines
14:53 TR News; But Android itself does not respect your privacy, so it is a net negative https://medevel.com/opentracks/
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14:53 TR Bot; OpenTracks is an Android Sport and Exercise Tracker that respects your privacy
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14:55 TR News; A phone that does respect your privacy does not connect to a mobile network and uses encryption too, e.g. Tox over Ethernet
14:56 TR News; Privacy-respecting phone http://techrights.org/2022/04/01/gnu-jami-talk/
14:56 TR Bot; Lori Nagel Demonstrates GNU Jami for Communications | Techrights
14:56 TR News; Booktype: a free, open-source publishing solution for authors and companies https://medevel.com/booktype/
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14:56 TR Bot; Booktype: a free, open-source publishing solution for authors and companies
14:58 TR News; "The BETA of the new Upgrade Tool is now available for testing. It can be used to upgrade LMDE 4 to LMDE 5." https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4312
14:58 TR Bot; LMDE Upgrade Tool in BETA The Linux Mint Blog
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 44.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 209.93
14:59 TR News; "ActivityWatch is an open source, free, privacy-first, cross-platform, and a great alternative to services like RescueTime, ManicTime, and WakaTime." https://medevel.com/activitywatch/ needs to delete Microsoft (criminals) GitHub...
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14:59 TR Bot; ActivityWatch is a private open-source automated time tracker
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15:02 TR News; Atlassian is openwashing and a bit like GitLab. While you can download and locally host some bits (I did JIRA on my own machine), they keep all the crowd jewels proprietary and try to herd users into their "clown", which loses data.
15:03 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Sourcetree Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163849
15:03 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Atlassian Sourcetree | Tux Machines
15:03 TR News; IBM keeps engineering its own blunders (own goals); in the latest example of it, which is rather revealing, IBM considers suspending the misguided plan to abolish BIOS support or assigning the task to a new special interest group (SIG) http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/general-purpose-computing/
15:03 TR Bot; IBM and the War (on General-Purpose Computing) | Techrights
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15:06 TR News; "To remedy to that, ProtonDB introduced a new ratings system since late 2019, asking instead specific questions about what worked/did not work with each game, and deriving a calculated rating based on that." https://boilingsteam.com/protons-recent-push-to-reduce-the-number-of-borked-games/
15:06 TR Bot; Proton's Recent Push to Reduce the Number of Borked Games - Boiling Steam
15:10 MinceR; https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/bofh_2022_episode_7/
15:10 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/bofh_2022_episode_7/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/14/bofh_2022_episode_7/
15:10 TR Bot; BOFH and the PFY in the Great Switch Switcheroo The Register
15:11 TR News; independently conducted???? Ponemon??? https://thehackernews.com/2022/04/benchmarking-linux-security-latest.html see https://techrights.org/2011/07/10/real-reporting-and-swpats/ and http://techrights.org/2011/07/10/ponemon-paid-for-studies/
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15:11 TR Bot; Benchmarking Linux Security Latest Research Findings
15:11 TR Bot; Journalists Fail to Report Microsoft Racketeering as Microsoft Manages to Shape the News | Techrights
15:11 TR Bot; Novell Pays Ponemon Institute, LLC, to Help Generate Fake News | Techrights
15:12 TR News; Beta of LMDE Upgrade Tool Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163850
15:12 TR Bot; Beta of LMDE Upgrade Tool | Tux Machines
15:14 TR News; An Introduction to JSON - The New Stack https://thenewstack.io/an-introduction-to-json/ Source: thenewstack
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15:14 TR Bot; An Introduction to JSON The New Stack
15:16 TR News; Not Big, If True: Congresss Proposed Changes Fail to Solve the Fundamental Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/not-big-if-true-congresss-proposed-changes-fail-to-solve-the-fundamental-problems-with-the-jcpa/ Source: publicknowledge
15:16 TR Bot; Not Big, If True: Congresss Proposed Changes Fail to Solve the Fundamental Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge
15:16 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163851
15:16 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:16 TR News; Linux Mints New Upgrade Tool Enters Public Beta Testing, Heres #HowTo Use It Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163852
15:16 TR Bot; Linux Mints New Upgrade Tool Enters Public Beta Testing, Heres How to Use It | Tux Machines
15:25 TR News; Criminals from Microsoft pulling strings again https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/15/microsoft-tried-to-cozy-up-to-newspaper-publishers-who-are-now-claiming-microsoft-is-trying-to-stiff-them/
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15:25 TR Bot; Tried To Cozy Up To Newspaper Publishers Who Are Now Claiming Microsoft Is Trying To Stiff Them | Techdirt
15:26 TR News; Microsoft is organised crime. Governments all around the world need to treat it accordingly. The US government actively looks away when presented with evidence of the crimes.
15:26 TR News; control
15:26 TR News; control
15:27 TR News; When you outsource your project to GitHub you willingly give control to criminals... over your own work.
15:28 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163853
15:28 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
15:29 Techrights-sec; github is sharecropping
15:29 Techrights-sec; for code
15:31 TR News; The original cancel cultures gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-04-14.gmi
15:32 TR News; "This is what Paludan wanted to happen. He tricks the media into pushing his false narrative that its all about the book, see how they act just because I wanna burn a book." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/doubling-down-on-paludan
15:33 TR News; Is the ancient gophermap concept still a good idea? gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-18-is-the-ancient-gophermap-concept-still-a-good-idea.gmi
15:34 TR News; I didn't understand Test Driven Design (and the cost to my career) gemini://spikydinosaur.com/2022/04/18-i-didnt-understand-tdd.gmi
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15:37 TR News; "Who dares implement Core War over Gemini? It would join Astrobotany in the game's department on Geminispace. ;-)" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
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15:43 TR News; exa: Next-gen listing command in Linux for pro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163854
15:43 TR Bot; exa: Next-gen listing command in Linux for pro | Tux Machines
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15:51 MinceR; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
15:51 TR Bot; Firehose of falsehood - Wikipedia
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16:01 TR News; box86 and box64 get Steam Play Proton working much better on Arm devices | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/box86-and-box64-get-steam-play-proton-working-much-better-on-arm-devices/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
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16:01 TR Bot; and box64 get Steam Play Proton working much better on Arm devices | GamingOnLinux
16:02 TR News; Free software evolution sim Thrive goes Multicellular in the latest update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-goes-multicellular-in-the-latest-update/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
16:02 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-goes-multicellular-in-the-latest-update/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/open-source-evolution-sim-thrive-goes-multicellular-in-the-latest-update/
16:02 TR Bot; source evolution sim Thrive goes Multicellular in the latest update | GamingOnLinux
16:03 TR News; "ProtonUp-Qt gives you an incredibly easy way to install compatibility layers on Linux like GE-Proton (formerly Proton GE), Lutris-Wine, Luxtorpeda and more." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/protonup-qt-v261-adds-support-for-the-heroic-launcher-flatpak/
16:03 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/protonup-qt-v261-adds-support-for-the-heroic-launcher-flatpak/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/protonup-qt-v261-adds-support-for-the-heroic-launcher-flatpak/
16:03 TR Bot; v2.6.1 adds support for the Heroic Launcher Flatpak | GamingOnLinux
16:05 TR News; Kubernetes increases complexity. This can hamper security. https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/hardening-kubernetes-multi-cluster-environments/
16:05 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: containerjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/hardening-kubernetes-multi-cluster-environments/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://containerjournal.com/editorial-calendar/hardening-kubernetes-multi-cluster-environments/
16:05 TR Bot; Hardening Kubernetes Multi-Cluster Environments - Container Journal
16:06 TR News; How to use the Python debugger (pdb) | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/python-debugger-pdb Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
16:06 TR Bot; How to use the Python debugger (pdb) | Enable Sysadmin
16:07 TR News; The 'other' EFF https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030
16:07 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030 )
16:07 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: iol.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.iol.co.za/the-star/news/eff-calls-for-africa-to-forgive-sa-amid-xenophobic-problems-1958ddaa-14ee-4ee6-a631-ad73571b8030
16:08 XRevan86; https://smbc-comics.com/comic/ai-9
16:08 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AI
16:14 TR News; "Happy Friday, everyone --here's what the Apache community has been up to over the past week..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up252
16:14 TR Bot; The Apache News Round-up: week ending 15 April 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
16:15 TR News; How to add two numbers using parameterized constructor in java https://linuxhint.com/parameterized-constructor-add-two-numbers/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
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16:15 TR Bot; How to add two numbers using parameterized constructor in java
16:22 activelow; awesome... got X11+window-manager+terminal-emulator ready within the c-only base system
16:22 activelow; minor issue remaining, with unicode, looks good otherwise
16:22 activelow; meaning, this can be fed into TinyCC at some time
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16:44 activelow; weird export LANG=C did it for now;
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16:48 activelow; GTK2/3 are a burden still, because i have no idea yet, how to cope with fontconfig/gperf dependency
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16:52 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278445894_372643364781181_7128101437548593782_n.jpeg
16:52 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278445894_372643364781181_7128101437548593782_n.jpeg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/278445894_372643364781181_7128101437548593782_n.jpeg
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17:14 TR News; Linux Mint Upgrade Tool (mintupgrade) Beta Released. Heres #HowTo Try Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163855
17:14 TR Bot; Linux Mint Upgrade Tool (mintupgrade) Beta Released. Here's How to Try | Tux Machines
17:15 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163856
17:15 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:15 TR News; Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163857
17:15 TR Bot; Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:15 TR News; Games: Proton, box86, Thrive, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163858
17:15 TR Bot; Games: Proton, box86, Thrive, and More | Tux Machines
17:15 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163859
17:15 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
17:16 activelow; anyway, this means, a traditional *nix without any c++ dependency can be maintained, including X11, mplayer, web browser, irc, mail
17:17 activelow; if the fontconfig/gperf dependency can be repaired (not sure how yet), then GTK2 (or 3) can remain, including netsurf and various other goodies
17:18 activelow; i mean, even RISC OS includes an undesireable c++ compiler, not sure what depends on it, nonetheless, baphos is stricter in this regard
17:19 TR News; Links 18/04/2022: Makulu GNU/Linux Shift Beta 3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/18/makululinux-shift-beta-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/18/makululinux-shift-beta-3/
17:19 TR Bot; Links 18/04/2022: Makulu GNU/Linux Shift Beta 3 | Techrights
17:20 activelow; and gladly i wasn't hitting any cmake dependency so far, which will be another burden, excluding various desireable components, because cmake itself is written in c++ and there isn't any alternative implementation
17:20 BzOS; netsurf latest release is from 2 years ago
17:22 activelow; i fetched latest git-head, while ago
17:22 activelow; and, stability is _good_
17:23 activelow; got an idea how many updates are necessary if c++ dependencies are exluded? rarely any in years, which is exactly what i want.
17:25 activelow; and, if GNOME/GTK are wrecked (systemd/dbus/opengl dependencies), at least some ultra-conservative stable system can remain
17:26 activelow; some other components are a headache still, which may or may not be necessary: ghostscript/LaTex/texlive
17:26 activelow; because, the idea is, such a system _must_ remain capable for scientific work and authoring
17:27 activelow; i see Knuth released his original TeX variant with an incompatible license; i'll know soon enough, if it is sufficient for a markdown/tex/html authoring workflow
17:28 activelow; postscript is probably gone, yet printing onto 9pin matrix printer wouldn't require postscript
17:29 activelow; i must admit, GTK2/3 are desireable, yet as said i have no idea yet, to easily cope with gperf (and who knows what else will be hitting other c++ dependencies, such as cmake)
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17:40 XRevan86; https://existentialcomics.com/comic/442
17:40 TR Bot; Presocratic Return Policy - Existential Comics
17:48 MinceR; how could anything fade away until only dust remains if change is an illusion?
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17:51 XRevan86; MinceR: I can't answer that, but any dead parrot reference is a friend of mine.
17:52 MinceR; :>
17:59 *barto (~barto@2q7w2pvruanrn.irc) has joined #techrights
17:59 barto; greetings
17:59 SomeH4x0r; hi
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18:05 SomeH4x0r; barto: you can probably run /history #techrights something
18:05 SomeH4x0r; something being time value
18:06 SomeH4x0r; like 1h
18:06 SomeH4x0r; or 1d
18:06 SomeH4x0r; or number of lines
18:06 barto; sure
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18:25 activelow; anyway, i'll refine the package set further, which is rather easy now since almost everything undesirable is hitting a minimum acceptance test wall, which is automated
18:26 activelow; and even if gtk2/3 were gone for a while, i can happily live with that
18:33 activelow; any idea why Knuth TeX isn't maintained inside various distribution trees?
18:33 activelow; Knuth license. lol.
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18:48 XRevan86; https://nitter.eu/novayagazeta_en/status/1516050965354487814
18:48 TR Bot; Novaya Gazeta. Europe (@novayagazeta_en): "Novaya Gazeta. Europe has spoken with the mother of a Russian conscript who got drafted shortly before the war in Ukraine. We have received documents confirming that her son was indeed drafted and that he served in the Russian Navy https://novayagazetaeu.substack.com/p/a-lot-of-people-were-injured-many?s=r" | nitter
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18:48 XRevan86; Wait I could just point to https://novayagazetaeu.substack.com/p/a-lot-of-people-were-injured-many?s=r
18:48 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: substack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://novayagazetaeu.substack.com/p/a-lot-of-people-were-injured-many?s=r https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://novayagazetaeu.substack.com/p/a-lot-of-people-were-injured-many?s=r
18:48 TR Bot; A lot of people were injured. Many lost their limbs
18:49 XRevan86; No Twitter here :)
18:49 XRevan86; 2 days until they open a proper website.
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18:58 MinceR; (cat) (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/822864.mp4
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18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 402.36
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19:37 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-111.jpg
19:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-111.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/afternoon-meme-dump-24-memes-111.jpg
19:53 TR News; What is Artix Linux and #HowTo Install It Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163860
19:53 TR Bot; What is Artix Linux and How to Install It | Tux Machines
19:53 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163861
19:53 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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19:59 TR News; Twitter is a misinformation and hate site. That's why it attracts a liar, a sociopath... someone who spreads misinformation for self enrichment.
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20:01 TR News; "I'm really only interested in sending the occasional mail to other gophers. (And to be honest, I don't really care if Google blacklists my server.) So if I have some time this weekend I'll implement a system for outbound connections" gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-08-29-Email-thoughts-2-(reply-to-Tomasino-and-Sean).txt
20:01 TR News; Steam Deck was the Steam top seller for the week ending April 17 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-was-the-steam-top-seller-for-the-week-ending-april-17/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games
20:01 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-was-the-steam-top-seller-for-the-week-ending-april-17/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-was-the-steam-top-seller-for-the-week-ending-april-17/
20:01 TR Bot; Deck was the Steam top seller for the week ending April 17 | GamingOnLinux
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20:02 TR News; Linux Mint Releases LMDE Upgrade Tool for Beta Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163850#comment-33382
20:02 TR Bot; Beta of LMDE Upgrade Tool | Tux Machines
20:03 TR News; "Bottles continues to mature as a way to manage installing applications and games with the compatibility layer Wine. A fresh release is out now showing off some UI improvements and new features." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-app-bottles-adds-a-new-library-mode-vkbasalt-support/
20:03 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-app-bottles-adds-a-new-library-mode-vkbasalt-support/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/wine-manager-app-bottles-adds-a-new-library-mode-vkbasalt-support/
20:03 TR Bot; manager app Bottles adds a new Library mode, vkBasalt support | GamingOnLinux
20:10 TR News; "In this video, I am going to show how to install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wR1ivVX6p7s
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20:10 TR Bot; How to install Kubuntu 22.04 LTS - Invidious
20:11 TR News; "You've probably heard of the "grep" command, but did you know about ripgrep? ripgrep is a "line-oriented search tool" that you can use to quickly find text within files, with additional features." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gywe0ILrvw
20:11 TR Bot; https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=1gywe0ILrvw
20:11 TR Bot; vid.puffyan.us | Awesome Linux Tools: ripgrep (rg) - Invidious
20:12 TR News; "SUSE-IT plans a replacement of some network equipment in the Nuremberg Datacenter next Thursday (2022-04-21), between 4PM to 5PM CEST. Actual downtime is planned to be up to 15 minutes." https://progress.opensuse.org/news/120
20:12 TR Bot; Network outage next Thursday, April 21st - openSUSE admin - openSUSE Project Management Tool
20:13 TR News; apt vs. apt-get: Whats the Difference on Linux? https://www.howtogeek.com/791055/apt-vs.-apt-get-whats-the-difference-on-linux/ Source: howtogeek
20:13 TR Bot; apt vs. apt-get: Whats the Difference on Linux?
20:14 TR News; Linux Foundation works for Microsoft, also on openwashing; while Microsoft engages in very serious crimes Zemlin compares Microsoft critics to people who kick puppies
20:15 TR News; Microsoft openwashing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163648#comment-33383
20:15 TR Bot; Today's Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines
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20:15 TR News; Jim Zemlin: shameless opportunist, backstaber, and fraud of a person
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20:20 TR News; Git is released. LWN and Phoronix link to MICROSOFT GITHUB (an ATTACK on Git!!!) instead of the actual announcement!! And if you search for Git in Wikipedia the second result isn't Git but GitHub, also an attack on Git.
20:20 TR News; Git v2.36.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163862
20:20 TR Bot; Git v2.36.0 | Tux Machines
20:21 TR News; Letting GitHub control Git is like letting Microsoft control Linux or allowing Bill Gates to babysit your kids
20:22 DaemonFC; I just had the tensioner pulley assembly replaced. GM figured it would also be fun to route coolant through it.
20:22 DaemonFC; So there's some pipes you need to replace too.
20:23 TR News; Linux Plumbers Conference top sponsor is espionage and disinformation giant, Facebook! Again. https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/02/04/cfp-open-microconferences/
20:23 TR Bot; CFP Open Microconferences Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
20:24 TR News; Bash is GNU in this case, not Linux. Linux is just a kernel, dear... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3657591/creating-a-quick-calculation-function-on-linux.html
20:24 TR Bot; Creating a quick calculation function on Linux | Network World
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20:30 DaemonFC; I was driving along this week and noticed the car was squealing like a pig on cold mornings.
20:30 DaemonFC; So I had Car-X change the serpentine belt when it was in there getting other stuff done, and then the noise seemed to go away, so I figured belt glazing and then the cold came back and it was squaling like a pig again.
20:30 DaemonFC; The tensioner was wearing out.
20:31 DaemonFC; Took it up to Chevy and had them deal with that and flush the brakes while it was in there.
20:31 DaemonFC; The pedal was just bothering me. Suspected old brake fluid was probably to blame.
20:32 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163863
20:32 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
20:33 TR News; 10 years of stories behind Guix Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163864
20:33 TR Bot; 10 years of stories behind Guix | Tux Machines
20:34 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-4.jpg
20:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-4.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-4.jpg
20:35 TR News; Star Labs Unveils a New Small Format Linux PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163730#comment-33384
20:35 TR Bot; Star Labs Unveil Their First AMD-Powered Mini Linux PC with Coreboot Support | Tux Machines
20:35 DaemonFC; If you go looking at used cars, then you know it's a woman's car when you get in and you don't know what any of the fucking buttons are because her fingernails scratched them all off.
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20:35 schestowitz-TR; you got a relatively old cars
20:35 schestowitz-TR; and expensive to repair
20:35 schestowitz-TR; over time it seems like I was right
20:35 schestowitz-TR; *car
20:36 DaemonFC; Yeah, that's why I wasn't SUPER pissed when a tensioner started squeaking.
20:36 DaemonFC; I set aside some money for fluid and filter changes right away.
20:37 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Mom gets had. She pays as much in interest and useless car warranty schemes on something that's an obvious piece of shit.
20:37 DaemonFC; She goes to some dealer that sees her coming a mile away.
20:37 DaemonFC; Knows he doesn't have to give her anything resembling a fair deal.
20:37 schestowitz-TR; you pay the price for warning to show off
20:37 DaemonFC; She drives off with it and it begins a mile later with a flat tire.
20:37 schestowitz-TR; for wanting
20:37 DaemonFC; Well, the Impala was getting so old it was something all the time.
20:38 DaemonFC; Like, ALL the time.
20:38 DaemonFC; Not just age, but mileage.
20:38 TR News; Top 10 Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163865
20:38 TR Bot; Top 10 Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Tools | Tux Machines
20:38 DaemonFC; Mom didn't even wash it regularly, and she took it to shade tree mechanics, not factory-certified ones that use real parts.
20:38 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Bottles, and SDL2 Changes Mind on Wayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163866
20:38 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Bottles, and SDL2 Changes Mind on Wayland | Tux Machines
20:38 DaemonFC; So she'd get some idiot that always did half (or less) of the job.
20:39 DaemonFC; Then stick some part from AutoZone on it.
20:39 DaemonFC; The 2003 Impala was the only car she's ever bought that wasn't a piece of shit when she took delivery of it.
20:40 DaemonFC; Then she let it go to hell and then she'd financed like 3 more Impalas since then, lost 2 of them to bankruptcy and breakdown almost right off.
20:40 DaemonFC; This one is making severe engine noises.
20:40 TR News; So youre thinking about migrating to Linux? Heres what you need to know Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163867
20:40 TR Bot; So you're thinking about migrating to Linux? Here's what you need to know | Tux Machines
20:40 DaemonFC; She's still paying on it and can't file bankruptcy again.
20:40 DaemonFC; She had a Malibu she bought from her state senator that was in extremely good condition.
20:40 DaemonFC; She wrecked it.,
20:41 DaemonFC; Then after the insurance company handed her a check, instead of taking the check to a body shop, she drove it for a little while with the side all smashed in, and then gave it to my cousin, who ignored an oil leak and the motor burned up.
20:41 TR News; SUSE uses to promote GNU/Linux, not clown computing surveillance traps :/ https://www.suse.com/c/aws-summits-are-back/
20:41 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/aws-summits-are-back/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/aws-summits-are-back/
20:41 TR Bot; Summits Are Back! | SUSE Communities
20:42 TR News; "Too many meetings end with a vague feeling among the players that something ought to happen, and the hope that its not their personal job to make it so. [...] ask So whats the next action on this? at the end of each discussion point in your next staff meeting" http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1669
20:42 TR Bot; Whats the next action?
20:42 DaemonFC; She takes good cars and just ruins them with neglect, running over curbs, etc. It's a pain in the ass to even look at, schestowitz-TR
20:42 DaemonFC; It's worse than Linus Tech Tips with Linux.
20:42 TR News; Many Rust resignations lately... https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/04/18/libs-contributors.html
20:42 TR Bot; Please welcome Thom and Chris to Library Contributors | Inside Rust Blog
20:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, If she had done the required servicing and routine car washes on the 2003 Impala, it would not have that much rust on it and it would be a 500,000 mile car.
20:43 DaemonFC; It's just as well GM makes shit now, because it's all going to her anyway.
20:44 DaemonFC; Dad and Jan bought a Chevy Equinox, which I can't imagine they're happy with.
20:44 TR News; PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.4 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163868
20:44 TR Bot; PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.4 Released | Tux Machines
20:45 DaemonFC; He's such a tightwad (and not a great one) that he probably bought the base model and then didn't even talk them down on it.
20:45 DaemonFC; And the stupid things are made in Mexico, including the powertrain.
20:45 DaemonFC; And I got in one and laughed. It's all cheap plastic in the interior. It's comparable to a Kia.
20:45 DaemonFC; Apparently, that's all they have to compete with now, so that's what they do.
20:46 DaemonFC; Little dinky pathetic 1 liter engine.
20:46 DaemonFC; Touchscreens and all sorts of horrible shit in there.
20:46 schestowitz-TR; it is not a racing car
20:46 schestowitz-TR; even if it was, there are speed limits
20:46 DaemonFC; Yeah, they get _decent_ mileage, but probably severely underpowered.
20:47 schestowitz-TR; screens might be ok for entertainment, but it's a waste of device
20:47 DaemonFC; Do you think anyone in Illinois goes the speed limit?
20:47 schestowitz-TR; if they are not detachable
20:47 DaemonFC; Nobody goes under 85 on the freeway even if it says 55.
20:47 schestowitz-TR; then you pay for something that hardly ever gets used
20:47 schestowitz-TR; and takes up the battery juice
20:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I'm thinking about taking all my insurance over to Farmers.e
20:48 TR News; Solutions to Install Newer Apps on Older Ubuntu Versions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163869
20:48 TR Bot; Solutions to Install Newer Apps on Older Ubuntu Versions | Tux Machines
20:48 DaemonFC; They're pretty competitive with what I have now if you combine your renter's insurance on the plan.
20:48 DaemonFC; Then I can unplug that Pulse thing from Metromile and drive all I want.
20:48 schestowitz-TR; you said you would be saving money
20:48 schestowitz-TR; not you waste that on vanity
20:48 schestowitz-TR; and it takes up your time tsoon
20:48 schestowitz-TR; bbl
20:49 DaemonFC; You can throw money away keeping a hooptie around too.
20:49 DaemonFC; Faster, even.
20:49 DaemonFC; Unless you just do like this ghetto trash does.
20:49 DaemonFC; Let the thing go to hell and maybe even kill you.
20:49 MinceR; what's a hooptie?
20:50 TR News; "This is just a quick entry to say thanks to those who have contacted me (emails) or written about [1] their thoughts on blacklisting misbehaving gopher proxies [2]. One thing I hadn't appreciated was that some of you are using these proxies to get around annoying firewalls." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-09-05-Gopher-Proxy-Blacklisting-2.txt
20:50 DaemonFC; A dilapidated old car that nobody is servicing.
20:50 DaemonFC; It barely runs, it's covered in rust, it sounds like someone is tapping out SOS in morse code when they drive by.
20:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, The service advisor gave me some good advice on the TPMS sensors.
20:52 DaemonFC; He says the tires are already on the car and there's no chance to combine labor, so if the light comes back, the low battery code is on the sensor in the front right tire, so just replace that one and maybe you need new tires or something before the other ones die.
20:52 TR News; Photojournals in Gemini. This one updated moments ago gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202204/20220418-2022-week-11-15-photos.gmi
20:53 DaemonFC; It has new tires, but the budget Chinese brands almost never last as long as top dollar stuff.
20:53 DaemonFC; So replacing one sensor now to get the light to stay off and revisiting the situation in a few years when it needs tires again might be the way to go.
20:53 DaemonFC; Or just ignoring the light entirely and driving like that and replacing the sensors when I get new tires.
20:54 DaemonFC; So far it hasn't come back on.
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20:58 DaemonFC; Turning the tensioner pulley into part of the coolant plumbing system is something so bad only GM could have thought of it.
20:59 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Did I mention that part of the job is replacing coolant pipes that go through the tensioner?
20:59 DaemonFC; :)
20:59 DaemonFC; I can only surmise that the intention is to create more places for a coolant leak to spring.
21:02 DaemonFC; GM put ones made of plastic on at the factory. So I had the Chevy dealer replace the factory ones with metal ones.
21:03 DaemonFC; The new tensioner will probably be okay for a very long time, but the plastic heating and cooling is something you don't want to risk when it costs $20 to replace.
21:09 TR News; Techrights has barely done articles and videos about Gemini lately. Instead, as Gemini is nowadays very active, Techrights links to Gemini many times a day. This thing is here to stay... Gopher has been around for over 31 years (3 decades and more). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_(protocol)
21:09 TR Bot; Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia
21:10 MinceR; https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/funny-pictures-4-14-22-22.jpg
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21:12 TR News; WWW predates Gopher by 2 years. Curiously enough, Gopher was made in the University of Minnesota, the same place where a bunch of idiots vandalised Linux (kernel) until they got caught last year. http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/university-of-minnesota-linux/
21:12 TR Bot; University of Minnesota Has Destroyed Itself (or Its Reputation) by Trying to Destroy Linux and the Credibility of Linux | Techrights
21:14 TR News; Jim Zemlin: Ph.D. students submitting defective patches to Linux is bad. Microsoft bribing officials and attacking Linux by blackmail etc. isn't bad. Because those Ph.D. students do not pay my salary, whereas I'm among those bribed by Microsoft.
21:16 TR News; If you value privacy and security, you won't use Android https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/mobile-mitm-intercepting-your-android-app-traffic-go
21:16 TR Bot; Mobile MitM: Intercepting your Android App Traffic On the Go | Electronic Frontier Foundation
21:17 TR News; Software Patents: "The '774 patent relates to allowing or denying migration of virtual machines based on the geographic location of the target host." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/17/ip-edge-entity-invincible-ip-patent-likely-invalid
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21:17 TR Bot; IP Edge entity Invincible IP's patent likely invalid Unified Patents
21:17 TR News; "Best" as in most aggressive? This whole patent system became obscene. https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2022/4/13/lpix-moneyball
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21:17 TR Bot; LPIX - Moneyball for the Best Prosecution Firms Unified Patents
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21:22 TR News; Huawei added UEFI mirror memory function support to Linux AArch 64 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163870
21:22 TR Bot; Huawei added UEFI mirror memory function support to Linux AArch 64 | Tux Machines
21:25 TR News; Best part?!?!? WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux! https://www.osnews.com/story/134045/the-best-part-of-windows-11-is-a-revamped-windows-subsystem-for-linux/
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21:25 TR Bot; best part of Windows 11 is a revamped Windows Subsystem for Linux OSnews
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21:29 schestowitz-TR; hi, tp
21:29 schestowitz-TR; oops, left, not joined
21:29 schestowitz-TR; nm
21:39 activelow; seems there is a trivial fix for fontconfig/gperf... as usual... an older version
21:41 activelow; and i'll track something else, meson build system, don't appreciate if python is required as a build-time dependency for non-python packages
21:41 activelow; make/autotools remain anyway, and this is enough trouble
21:42 activelow; even if, the meson variant was any better, many autotools builds remain nonetheless
21:42 activelow; and then, python/meson add up yet another bdep and potential trouble source
21:44 DaemonFC; My doorbell has been going off all evening.
21:44 DaemonFC; Walmart orders.
21:44 activelow; at first glance, the removal of various precious packages, such as gimp, may not appeal to some
21:44 DaemonFC; It's cheaper to just buy canned food a dozen at a time.
21:45 DaemonFC; I've stocked up on some vegetables and canned chicken that I was running low on.
21:45 activelow; yet, what's difficult is the cleaning of the dependency tree, and adding a c++ compiler and gimp is far easier than keeping the dependency tree clean inside the base system
21:45 DaemonFC; You have to buy things a dozen at a time now to get what the single can price was last year.
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21:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Two cars under $16k at City Chevrolet. A Kia and a Hyundai. Both pretty old.
21:47 DaemonFC; They could literally explode right after you buy them.
21:47 DaemonFC; I've never heard of the Buick V6 just exploding for no reason, so that's a plus.
21:48 DaemonFC; Well, there is a reason why the Hyundai THETA II engine explodes.
21:48 DaemonFC; Apparently accidentally shipping them full of thermite causes the explosions and patching the ECM software "fixes" everything.
21:48 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
21:50 DaemonFC; https://www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/more-kia-vehicles-recalled-for-fire-risk-a4433944061/
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21:50 TR Bot; More Kia Vehicles Recalled for Fire Risk - Consumer Reports
21:50 DaemonFC; Software patch, check.
21:50 DaemonFC; Tell customer to have A, B, C fire extinguisher in the trunk, check.
21:50 DaemonFC; "Be aware of your surroundings. Never stand on an active roadway. If youre parked by the side of the road, stay far behind the vehicle to avoid being hit if another car strikes your vehicle."
21:50 DaemonFC; Well, it should be easy for them to see you.
21:51 DaemonFC; What, with your entire car being a big-ass road flare at that point.
21:53 DaemonFC; Then after it happens, KIA Motors Finance will demand payment for the car if you still have a loan, even though KIA is the reason the car went up in flames.
21:54 DaemonFC; Well, at least we know what the white farmers in South Africa must feel like after having their land stolen to go fallow while the bank still demands the loan payments.
21:55 DaemonFC; "As I stood there, watching the KIA immolate itself, I thought....'Just 10 more payments....10....more payments.'. After a year of riding the city bus, I went to the Toyota dealer.
21:58 DaemonFC; The way I see it, interest to a bank is just cash in the trash.
21:58 DaemonFC; If you own the car outright, you can skip the interest and maybe afford to maintain it a little better.
21:59 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: not my problem anymore
21:59 schestowitz-TR; I'm not a user
22:00 TR News; How the Free Software Movement Will Build a Better Future Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163871
22:00 TR Bot; How the Free Software Movement Will Build a Better Future | Tux Machines
22:00 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Between interest and useless warranties, mom usually overpays by about $7,000 on each of her cars on that alone.
22:00 TR News; 10 People Youve Never Heard of Who Are Destroying Democracy | The New Republic https://newrepublic.com/article/165984/10-people-destroying-democracy "Theyre sowing disruption and disinformation, and they have their eyes on 2024."
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22:00 TR Bot; 10 People Youve Never Heard of Who Are Destroying Democracy | The New Republic
22:01 DaemonFC; There is a time value of money, sure, but most car loans are doled out at between 20x and 100x what the bank borrows money at.
22:02 DaemonFC; Any repairs you have to make to the car while there's a loan on it put you at risk of repairing the car and having it hauled off by the finance company.
22:02 TR News; "Valve continue to cook up plans for more exciting upgrades to the Steam Deck, with Refresh Rate Switching looking like it's on the way. Not ready quite yet with work to do but the idea is great." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/looks-like-the-steam-deck-will-get-refresh-rate-switching/
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22:02 TR Bot; like the Steam Deck will get Refresh Rate Switching | GamingOnLinux
22:03 DaemonFC; Once they get it back, they dispose of it fast and cheap and still come after you for the rest.
22:03 DaemonFC; It's not uncommon for repos to sell at auction for 1/5th or less of what you still owe, and then the bank claims that all of that was eaten up in repo fees and cleaning it up to auction.
22:04 DaemonFC; It's a giant scam.
22:04 TR News; You Dont Choose Your Linux Distro. It Chooses You! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1jyHo0Jg7Cw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
22:04 DaemonFC; And then you have baby boomers stepping in the brand new car scam over and over because they learn nothing.
22:04 TR Bot; You Don't Choose Your Linux Distro. It Chooses You! - Invidious
22:04 TR News; "Our discoveries including a better diff, a way to replace Snaps with Flatpacks, a command line cheat sheet, help with YAML, and signing PDFs. Plus your feeback about supporting us with crypto nonsense, running Linux on work machines, an esoteric browser, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-173/
22:04 TR Bot; Late Night Linux Episode 173 Late Night Linux
22:05 TR News; xkcd: Family Reunion https://xkcd.com/2608/ Source: xkcd
22:05 TR Bot; Family Reunion
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22:06 TR News; "Blockchain Companies" https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/18/north-korean-state-sponsored-apt-targets-blockchain-companies
22:06 TR Bot; North Korean State-Sponsored APT Targets Blockchain Companies | CISA
22:07 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: you make fun of them
22:08 schestowitz-TR; but you too have fallen for dreams
22:08 schestowitz-TR; you've hardly had two weeks with the car and already paid an additional 10%
22:08 schestowitz-TR; that's like many earPods or whatever they're called
22:09 DaemonFC; Yeah, I test drove it on a fairly warm day.
22:09 DaemonFC; So it wasn't squealing.
22:09 DaemonFC; There's no way this woman didn't hear that when it was really cold outside.
22:09 DaemonFC; I'm just lucky it didn't snap a belt with no warning.
22:10 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Car-X seems to be getting worse than it usually was.
22:10 DaemonFC; Seems more pressure to get cars in and out.
22:10 DaemonFC; So they'll just say they can't hear it and tell you to come back some other day.
22:10 DaemonFC; At least the Chevy dealer knows what's going on with the car.
22:11 DaemonFC; The fact that they had to go down to Joliet over a stupid tensioner pulley is unsettling though.
22:11 TR News; PC is a generic term now https://www.gsmarena.com/flashback_the_postpostpc_era-news-53953.php
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22:11 TR Bot; the post-post-PC era - GSMArena.com news
22:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, They had to go down 80 miles and back to get a Chevy part for me?
22:13 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: live and learn
22:13 DaemonFC; Well, they had to charge what the book said to, so their problem there isn't exactly my problem.
22:13 DaemonFC; The fact that it took them 2 hours to get the part.
22:14 schestowitz-TR; and so your purchase is becoming chevy patchwork
22:14 DaemonFC; Well, not exactly.
22:14 DaemonFC; The Buick Lacrosse is basically a fancy Chevy Impala.
22:14 schestowitz-TR; old cars, old parts
22:14 DaemonFC; So they share many parts.
22:14 schestowitz-TR; with "smart" cars it'll be worse
22:14 schestowitz-TR; good luck getting parts from just 10 years ago
22:15 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, You can go into the aftermarket for most stuff all the way back as far as you want to go.
22:15 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I walked to 7 stores
22:15 DaemonFC; So I'm not terribly concerned just yet. If I absolutely needed to, I could use an auto parts store tensioner instead of a OE one.
22:15 schestowitz-TR; saved like 80%
22:16 schestowitz-TR; with cars and parking that's harder
22:16 DaemonFC; Mechanical parts have a huge aftermarket.
22:16 schestowitz-TR; and in manchester city center there's almost nowhere to park
22:16 DaemonFC; You can sell so many of the damned things because the Impala and Lacrosse used the same tensioner for like 11 model years.
22:16 DaemonFC; And the Impala is a fleet vehicle.
22:17 DaemonFC; So lots of people buy those used, right, like old cop cars?
22:17 schestowitz-TR; not all cops are old :-)
22:17 DaemonFC; The Lacrosse is just an Impala with better suspension and more features and stuff.
22:17 DaemonFC; Better interior, trim.
22:18 schestowitz-TR; so Lacrosse is a rich fool's product
22:18 DaemonFC; Sort of, yeah.
22:18 DaemonFC; But luxury cars lose value rapidly.
22:18 TR News; "This release contains bug fixes to improve robustness and some additional configuration support. This release note describes whats different between Istio 1.13.2 and 1.13.3." https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.13.x/announcing-1.13.3/
22:18 TR Bot; Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.3
22:18 DaemonFC; But the nice thing about the Lacrosse or Grand Marquis is they were built on top of the Impala or Crown Victoria.
22:18 DaemonFC; So you can service the luxury car with mass market parts.
22:19 DaemonFC; Can't do that with most luxury cars so you are screwed.
22:19 DaemonFC; The Sable was an upmarket Taurus, and so on.
22:19 DaemonFC; If you get a luxury car, make sure they built it off something mass market so there's like, opportunities to dig into the aftermarket and leverage scale.
22:20 DaemonFC; That way you can keep it going for a long time without any $1,200 MARISOL wheel hub bearings.
22:20 DaemonFC; $600 an axle MARISOL brake pads.
22:21 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Even at the Chevy dealer, which is terribly overpriced for brake pads, it's $249 an axle, and a wheel hub bearing is like $400.
22:21 DaemonFC; And so you can take your Buick there and just tell them to service it there if you want, or an independent, and get it for even less.
22:21 TR News; "The goal was to have something like Scratchy [1] (my gopher server) but for gemini. Honestly I wasn't expecting this to be very hard at all. The only thing I was unsure of was the TLS aspect." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2020-05-30-Inanity-2:-RAGS-to-Riches.txt
22:21 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163872
22:21 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:22 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Hell, fuck, you can take the Buick to Midas and get $99 an axle brake pads.
22:22 DaemonFC; They won't be top of the line, but they'll work okay.
22:22 DaemonFC; Can't do that with a Beemer.
22:22 DaemonFC; They have to be BMW brake pads.
22:22 DaemonFC; If your mechanic does the job, the only thing you save on is labor.
22:22 DaemonFC; He still has to go to a dealer and buy BMW pads.
22:23 DaemonFC; So he goes to their parts department and BMW gets you anway.
22:23 DaemonFC; *anyway
22:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Then there's the $300 BMW oil change.
22:23 DaemonFC; And so a bunch of BMW victims noticed BMW using Castrol synthetic and go "Why the fuck am I paying $300 for this guy to pour Castrol in?".
22:24 DaemonFC; So they go to Jiffy Lube and have them pour in Castrol Syntec, which is a synthetic oil meant for American cars, and it went ahead and sludged up their BMW engine.
22:24 DaemonFC; And they didn't save much money then.
22:25 DaemonFC; You can use Euro Castrol in an American car if you want to.
22:25 DaemonFC; It won't hurt anything as long as the viscosity is correct.
22:25 DaemonFC; But you can't use cheaper synthetic oils meant for an American car in a BMW.
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22:29 DaemonFC; Jiffy Lube talked this guy I was dating into some dumbass "engine flush" procedure.
22:29 DaemonFC; And after they did it and charged him $100, he could not add oil fast enough to the engine.
22:30 DaemonFC; And I said, "Your van is a Chrysler and it somehow made it to 375,000 miles, God knows how, without any trouble, and you thought pouring harsh chemicals in it was going to improve something?".
22:31 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Actually, out of all the things the squealing could have been today, I got off relatively light.
22:31 DaemonFC; The only cheaper part it could have been was the idler pulley.
22:32 DaemonFC; Everything else is like alternator, air conditioner compressor, water pump....
22:32 DaemonFC; You need to make those expensive parts happy by not killing them with cheaper parts that you're not servicing.
22:32 DaemonFC; Like, bad batteries will kill an alternator by overworking it.
22:32 DaemonFC; Bad brake fluid will eventually corrode everything.
22:33 DaemonFC; And the manufacturer's don't help anything, schestowitz-TR
22:33 DaemonFC; They don't mention brake fluid changes at all.
22:33 DaemonFC; They're deleting references to "service automatic transmission",.
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22:33 DaemonFC; So the transmissions die and then they go "Well, that's just the way the news goes. New Impala, sir?".
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22:41 MinceR; 18 232710 < DaemonFC> Yeah, that happens when the engine burns up every 7 years.
22:41 MinceR; also when parts are at a brutal markup
22:41 MinceR; despite being made as cheaply as possible
22:47 DaemonFC; Plastic and ripping half the car apart to get to it.
22:48 DaemonFC; The ultimate driving machine!
22:48 DaemonFC; *May be in shop on alternating days.
22:49 DaemonFC; MinceR, The alternator looks newer than everything else in the engine compartment.
22:49 DaemonFC; My guess is someone has changed that recently and nobody logged it.
22:50 DaemonFC; There's a couple of "Inspect engine electrical components" in the carfax history, but that can mean anything.
22:50 DaemonFC; Including checking the battery health.
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22:52 MinceR; :>
22:52 MinceR; the ultimate being-repaired machine
22:55 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/Ejb4wqs.mp4
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22:56 schestowitz-TR; my older machine isn't reliable, I just had to reboot it
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22:56 schestowitz-TR; crashed due to disk issue it seems, at least came back up
22:57 DaemonFC; Jesus Christ.....
22:57 DaemonFC; ONE TPMS sensor replaced at Pep Boys is over $250.
22:58 DaemonFC; It's $160 at Chevy and $87 at Car-X
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22:58 DaemonFC; My God. For the cost of having one replaced at Pep Boys, I could almost get all four done at Car-X.
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23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:26] <-- schestowitz_log (~schestowitz_log@s44cwn8sugddy.irc) has left this server (connection closed).
23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:26] <DaemonFC> https://itsengine.com/why-are-bmw-oil-changes-so-expensive/
23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:26] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- itsengine.com | Why Are BMW Oil Changes So Expensive? How To Reduce Cost?
23:07 TR Bot; Why Are BMW Oil Changes So Expensive? How To Reduce Cost?
23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:27] <DaemonFC> "BMWs are more expensive to maintain than other vehicles."
23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:27] <DaemonFC> Yeah, that happens when the engine burns up every 7 years.
23:07 schestowitz-TR; [22:27] <DaemonFC> MinceR, ^
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23:07 schestowitz-TR; pasting due to downtime
23:07 schestowitz-TR; nothing critical, but I do try hard to keep the record complete
23:07 schestowitz-TR; checked other channels, nothing lost there
23:08 schestowitz-TR; my system state restore list is in good shape now, KDE restores a lot of the session regardless
23:08 schestowitz-TR; I really should hurry up moving remaining processes away from the flailing machine
23:10 TR News; "In addition, vulnerability tests allow IT teams to identify weaknesses before they become an actual problem." https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/
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23:10 TR Bot; Top 10 Open Source Vulnerability Assessment Tools
23:10 TR News; "The goal is not to be stealthy but to assess risks from the inside, like how hackers would deploy their attack after breaking into a network." https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-vulnerability-scanners/
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23:13 DaemonFC; MinceR, One of the people living HERE drives a BMW 3 series.
23:13 DaemonFC; It says she got it from "Your Choice Autos".
23:14 DaemonFC; That's where I was looking at that police Crown Victoria the other day. The bright red one.
23:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I don't tend to drive anything super fancy under the hood.
23:14 DaemonFC; Pretty much everything in the Buick is a proven design that GM refined over more than 40 years.
23:15 DaemonFC; It is a machine, and machines need to be serviced, but it's hardly the worst car out there.
23:21 TR News; "Arch Linux isn't a bleeding edge distro, Gentoo isn't a bleeding edge distro and neither is Void or almost any linux distro because that would be a terrible experience that almost nobody would really want to use." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zj3yPS7nug
23:21 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=7zj3yPS7nug
23:21 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | You Don't Want A Bleeding Edge Linux Distro!! - Invidious
23:22 MinceR; "if i want cutting edge, i'll buy a sword. if i want bleeding edge, i'll use it."
23:26 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: Brodie Robertson, Late Night Linux, and DT Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163873
23:26 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: Brodie Robertson, Late Night Linux, and DT | Tux Machines
23:26 DaemonFC; MinceR, I guess I'm going to Discount Tire tomorrow.
23:26 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163874
23:26 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
23:26 DaemonFC; They said $63.75 per TPMS sensor.
23:29 TR News; parted-3.5 released [stable] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163875
23:29 TR Bot; parted-3.5 released [stable] | Tux Machines
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23:39 TR News; A Simple Way Using Linux to Turn Your Old Laptop into a Security Monitoring Device https://www.publish0x.com/simple-solutions-to-complex-problems/a-simple-way-to-turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-security-monitor-xnxrwjx
23:39 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.publish0x.com/simple-solutions-to-complex-problems/a-simple-way-to-turn-your-old-laptop-into-a-security-monitor-xnxrwjx )
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23:41 TR News; The Ultimate Guide to Pacman Commands on Arch Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/getting-started-with-pacman-commands/ Source: makeuseof
23:41 TR Bot; The Ultimate Guide to Pacman Commands on Arch Linux
23:43 TR News; LHS Episode #463: Pop Goes the Badger http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163873#comment-33385
23:43 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows and Videos: Brodie Robertson, Late Night Linux, and DT | Tux Machines
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23:51 DaemonFC; https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/04/18/tpms-sensor-replacement-in-the-buick/
23:51 TR Bot; TPMS sensor replacement in the Buick. BaronHK's Rants
23:51 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, ^
23:52 *schestowitz-TR refreshes rss
23:54 DaemonFC; https://www.howmuchisit.org/tire-pressure-sensor-cost/
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23:54 TR Bot; Pressure Sensor Replacement Cost | HowMuchIsIt.org
23:54 DaemonFC; This article is old, but the price spread still favors Discount Tire.
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23:57 matey; "source coed" proof that women are welcome in the tech industry
23:58 matey; /me doesnt think anyone is really "welcome" in the tech industry, because the tech industry is a fucking plantation
23:59 MinceR; more like the wreck of a train that is carrying burning trash
23:59 matey; it cant be both?
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