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00:48 matey; <XRevan86> War wasn't kind to Lenin. <- was it lenin (i think) or was it trotsky that said revolution wears men down
00:49 matey; lenin was fighting to see that his legacy was not destroyed by stalin, but it was killing him
00:49 XRevan86; matey: Trotsky did.
00:49 matey; trotsky was seeing to this even after lenins death, and stalin had him killed for it
00:49 matey; <XRevan86> matey: Trotsky did. <- fair enough, i treat them separately with good reason but sometimes they run together a bit
00:50 matey; they werent always friends. but they were certainly comrades
00:50 XRevan86; Stalin is a very distint figure from Lenin and Trotsky as far as political views go.
00:50 matey; stalin not only made a pact with hitler, he made a pact with hitler and then said trotsky was working with the nazis
00:50 XRevan86; So I can understand how they can blend together when compared to Stalin.
00:50 matey; <XRevan86> Stalin is a very distint figure from Lenin and Trotsky as far as political views go. <- this is something i try to make clear to people
00:51 XRevan86; * distinct
00:51 matey; how they can blend together when compared to Stalin. <- i think it goes a little farther than that, but of course lenin wasnt exactly president of the leon trotsky fan club for a long time
00:52 matey; and even trotsky was disappointed with the 4th national
00:52 matey; they were a bit rag tag and he wanted soldiers (in discipline at least)
00:52 matey; like the fellow he used to have guarding the door with it left open, and he would say "you shouldnt do that, its a good way to get shot"
00:53 matey; and the guy got shot later, just like trotsky said he would
00:54 XRevan86; matey: A funny analogy in modern-day Russia: Yeltsin as Lenin, Niemtsov as Trotsky, Putin as Stalin :)
00:54 matey; ive been watching a lot of benjamin rich lately, as he traipses through the former soviet union (including russia, belarus, many other places)
00:54 matey; well i got the putin as stalin part, thats obviously
00:54 matey; yeltsin as lenin? you must either like him or hate him
00:54 XRevan86; All analogies break apart under close inspection, but it holds up better than expected.
00:55 matey; niemtsov is entirely outside the scope of my interests (so far), as ive never heard of him
00:55 matey; ive started a century or two earlier
00:55 matey; but with the stuff from ben rich im seeing the refufees, the aftermath
00:55 XRevan86; matey: Yeltsin founded the state, Niemtsov was a visionary of it, Putin inherited it, Niemtsov fought Putin and then got killed.
00:55 matey; refugees
00:56 matey; thats pretty good, analogy wise
00:56 matey; thanks for the outline, stuff like that is useful
00:56 XRevan86; matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov
00:56 TR Bot; Boris Nemtsov - Wikipedia
00:56 XRevan86; He's a big opposition-to-Putin figure in the history of contemporary Russia.
00:56 matey; of course trotsky would tell anyone that you cant figure out revolution everywhere by basing it on russia, and its a mistake to do so
00:57 matey; but he would also hope, im quite certain, that people would learn from the mistakes at least
00:57 XRevan86; He was way bigger than Navalny.
00:57 matey; ive read "a revolution betrayed" and part of the history of the russian revolution by ted grant
00:57 MinceR; 17 015042 < matey> stalin not only made a pact with hitler, he made a pact with hitler and then said trotsky was working with the nazis
00:58 MinceR; i didn't realize the "NO U R TEH NAZIS!!11111" russian move was so old
00:58 matey; :>
00:58 matey; just the fact that it happens at lieplanet should be a hint that its been recycled more than once
00:59 MinceR; learning from mistakes? that's not what humans do
00:59 XRevan86; MinceR: Unfortunately Putin learnt from success.
00:59 matey; sabotage is always easier than building a better world
00:59 XRevan86; Worked for Stalin, works for Putin so far.
01:00 matey; the thing is, the workers have to be armed
01:00 matey; if every worker was armed the world would be a very different place. something the marxists and libertarians actually agree on
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01:00 matey; the difference is that libertarians (in my experience) really have no plan at all
01:01 matey; and maybe they would say thats an advantage
01:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I literally passed out from lack of sleep. Luckily had enough energy to go to bed.
01:01 matey; but strategically, its probably not
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01:01 DaemonFC; It took all day just to get a car key.
01:01 DaemonFC; By the time they were finished, it was time to get Mandy at work anyway.
01:02 DaemonFC; I took the keys from Buick and the keys from Batteries Plus and talked to Anthony Buick GMC in Gurnee and a locksmith.
01:02 matey; i tried explaining to roy that theres a narrower selection of 90s cars than there used to be
01:02 matey; because they dont make 90s cars anymore
01:03 XRevan86; matey: I've abandoned all hope for strategy years ago.
01:03 matey; he thinks you should have gotten one without a "luxury" ignition
01:03 XRevan86; matey: Just like the Hungarian opposition :)
01:03 DaemonFC; The Buick dealer told me that there was something "off brand" about the key where the transponder wouldn't program correctly for the car to remember it, but the Buick key that theh made was correct and accepting a program.
01:03 matey; i explained that half your motivation was to get a car with less such bullshit, but those were pretty standard
01:04 matey; <DaemonFC> The Buick dealer told me that there was something "off brand" about the key where the transponder wouldn't program correctly <- that sounds like hes throwing you a line
01:04 DaemonFC; And then the locksmith I showed the keys to laughed and said "It won't turn because the one from Batteries Plus is a few mm off and you can just barely get the key cylinder to turn if you wiggle it.".
01:04 matey; <XRevan86> matey: I've abandoned all hope for strategy years ago. <- if all is lost, we can do whatever we please. if we can do whatever we please, some will keep trying.
01:04 XRevan86; matey: What I mean is that there's literally only one job to do.
01:04 DaemonFC; Physically, the one from Batteries Plus will open the car door because it's close enough for the door lock and the door does not check for a transponder ID.
01:05 matey; the takeover of free software was capitalisms last chance. if we cant build something better im still anti-capitalist
01:05 DaemonFC; So if a thief clones the physical key, it gets them in the car, but it won't start the car.
01:05 XRevan86; Everything else is a hypothetical.
01:05 matey; <XRevan86> matey: What I mean is that there's literally only one job to do. <- im still not old enough for nihilism or fatalism
01:06 XRevan86; matey: How about "there are no politics when an autocrat is in power"?
01:06 matey; <XRevan86> Everything else is a hypothetical. <- everything else. i mean everything is hypothetical until you test the hypotheses
01:06 matey; <XRevan86> matey: How about "there are no politics when an autocrat is in power"? <- depending how you define politics
01:06 matey; the first task is to get the autocrat out
01:06 XRevan86; matey: The first task, yes.
01:06 matey; an autocrat is a prison for a nation or larger part of the world
01:06 matey; in human form
01:08 matey; im agnostic. i still put a very small percentage of stock in divine intervention
01:08 matey; though im increasingly familiar with history so... not TOO MUCH stock, eh?
01:09 matey; stalin at least, is dead. but he lived too long.
01:09 matey; hitler is dead, he too lived too long
01:09 matey; it annoys me when roy talks like github and ibm will simply collapse, as if waiting for that is the answer
01:09 matey; of course, he would deny saying thats the answer
01:09 matey; but he still talks that way most of the time
01:10 matey; waiting for these things to take care of themselves is ALWAYS the answer for some people
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01:10 matey; how much worse would things be if everyone thought about every problem that way?
01:11 matey; today i learned that gcc is WAY WAY more resource efficient than llvm
01:11 matey; this is all the same to me, im not changing topic though anyone may accuse me of doing so
01:11 matey; i learned this not from techrights, but from #techrights
01:12 matey; because some nutter (whose work i do admired) is trying to make a c++-free distro
01:12 XRevan86; matey: Deus ex machina is a thing in works of fiction, it's not a factor in reality.
01:12 matey; and he knows that gcc is way easier to build than llvm-- some others here know that too, no one told me before
01:12 bnchs; llvm is bloated and shit
01:13 bnchs; ofc gcc is way easier to build
01:13 matey; matey: Deus ex machina is a thing in works of fiction, it's not a factor in reality. <- even if im refuting my own argument, if there is no god then we are it.
01:13 bnchs; when i was building PS3 toolchain in a 4GB ram laptop
01:13 matey; <bnchs> ofc gcc is way easier to build <- but i didnt know that until today
01:13 bnchs; it only took 30 minutes
01:13 matey; it changes a lot if llvm is that much of a hog
01:13 matey; for example, we cant escape ibm by simply moving to llvm (which of course is microsoft)
01:14 matey; and it makes forking llvm that much more impractical, fucking beast that it is (i had no way to quanitify it previously)
01:14 XRevan86; matey: "If there is no god then we are it" <- I'm a theological noncognitivist in that I consider your statement to be factually empty.
01:14 bnchs; llvm is a beast
01:14 bnchs; i would rather use GCC
01:14 matey; factually empty. <- okay, maybe we can find a fact to put in its place
01:15 matey; we are likely the most "intelligent" species on earth FSVO of intelligence
01:15 matey; or if we are not...
01:15 matey; the whales and dolphins are probably not going to assist us (unless they can do so telepathically)
01:15 XRevan86; matey: Intelligence is not very measureable, but humans are definitely the most resourceful.
01:16 bnchs; https://github.com/KhronosGroup/SPIRV-LLVM-Translator/issues/412
01:16 TR Bot; memory usage during compilation Issue #412 KhronosGroup/SPIRV-LLVM-Translator GitHub
01:16 bnchs; lol
01:16 matey; so if there are no gods, we are the closest thing in range
01:16 bnchs; the issue has a memory usage chart
01:16 bnchs; it's a fucking saw wave
01:16 XRevan86; matey: We are the masters of our own fate, yes.
01:16 bnchs; up to 1 GB
01:16 matey; <bnchs> the issue has a memory usage chart <- im not crediting anyone in here with making a big discovery, only with making me aware of the issue
01:16 XRevan86; matey: Unfortunately, collectively %).
01:16 bnchs; matey: yeah
01:16 bnchs; LLVM is an issue
01:17 bnchs; Xorg requires it
01:17 bnchs; which is why i couldn't use gentoo with Xorg
01:17 matey; xorg sees fit to have a stab at rms for simply saying they made a mistake
01:17 matey; maybe they have an addiction to bullshit (or bloat) or something
01:18 bnchs; fuck llvm
01:18 bnchs; i wish programs didn't depend on it, considering how utterly obese it is
01:18 matey; <bnchs> fuck llvm <- probably a good idea. makes me even sadder that openbsd uses it
01:19 matey; and its one more reason gnu/bsd would be a good idea (since openbsd isnt made for gcc i guess)
01:19 matey; (or is it, i couldnt tell you)
01:19 bnchs; openbsd should use gcc
01:19 bnchs; or some other compiler
01:19 bnchs; not llvm
01:19 bnchs; ughhh
01:19 matey; but if hyperbola makes openbsd use gcc theyre probably doing the world a favour
01:19 matey; after all, theyre not just openbsd fans, theyre openbsd fans who love free software as a movement
01:20 matey; openbsd is a research project-- not a movement
01:20 bnchs; the point is to use free software
01:20 bnchs; that is efficient both in being compiled
01:20 bnchs; and being used
01:20 matey; its a very GOOD project, but now we know what a mistake it is to use llvm
01:20 matey; <bnchs> the point is to use free software <bnchs> that is efficient both in being compiled <bnchs> and being used <- of course
01:20 matey; and being maintained-- where openbsd wins (mostly)
01:20 matey; but i think llvm does not
01:20 bnchs; llvm fails at those
01:20 matey; yes
01:21 matey; <XRevan86> matey: Unfortunately, collectively <- then our choices perhaps, are to work to make things work collectively
01:21 matey; or watch them get worse
01:21 matey; dont mistake me for an optimist. my view of the world is a bit like westleys when every night he would hear
01:21 matey; "good night westley, ill most likely kill you in the morning"
01:22 matey; but im bored with television, so...
01:23 matey; and there arent THAT many watchable movies on youtube
01:23 XRevan86; "Theological noncognitivism" is a term I like because it describes well what I see my level of atheism: not only do I not think that gods exist, I think that the word "god" doesn't actually describe anything.
01:23 matey; thats sort of making things true by redefining something else, isnt it?
01:23 matey; i mean it seems like a straw man to me
01:24 matey; a god is a concept of a being more powerful than man-- thats it
01:24 matey; it doesnt need to be more complicated than that
01:24 matey; if you could be twice as powerful as any man it would make you "god-like" at least.
01:24 XRevan86; matey: So if a rock crushes a man, the rock is god?
01:24 matey; some people would be offended, but you could brush them off with relative ease
01:25 matey; matey: So if a rock crushes a man, the rock is god? <- only if a rock is a "being", then yes
01:25 matey; <matey> a god is a concept of a being more powerful than man-- thats it
01:25 XRevan86; matey: Is a man on literal steroids god?
01:25 XRevan86; More powerful than a regular man.
01:25 matey; i guess it depends
01:26 MinceR; smarter than the average bear
01:26 matey; if he can stop someone from putting him down with a bullet, perhaps
01:26 matey; a man with a gun and a guy on steroids... id bet on the man with the gnu
01:26 matey; lol
01:26 matey; the gun
01:26 matey; with all due respect to rms
01:26 XRevan86; matey: We need AGI bullets, they'll be gods.
01:26 MinceR; also, my car is faster than you, so it's god
01:26 matey; your car is a being?
01:26 MinceR; \_()_/
01:27 MinceR; it exists
01:27 XRevan86; Smart bullets are key here.
01:27 matey; anyway we wont get past straw man with more straw man
01:27 MinceR; just set fire to the straw men
01:27 matey; god was never a difficult concept
01:27 MinceR; yeah
01:27 MinceR; it was the "i can't think of an explanation" concept
01:27 MinceR; and the "you must do what i say, because... uh..." concept
01:27 MinceR; rolled into one!
01:28 XRevan86; I mean, the initial gods are simple enough that humanity universally just wrote them off as fiction.
01:28 matey; that can be a nasty combination yes
01:28 matey; id say politics has done as much with that as religion has
01:28 XRevan86; I can say with confidence that there's no lightning god.
01:28 matey; i mean christianity has had some ugly moments-- not to defend it, but very often a state was involved before it got truly ugly
01:28 matey; like rome, or the vatican, or both
01:28 XRevan86; I give a revan guarantee.
01:29 matey; XRevan86 help me out here
01:29 matey; this is going to sound really stupid but i didnt study physics so
01:29 matey; those giant fucking blocks-- the pyramids and the monument to gilgamesh
01:30 matey; how were those stones lifted?
01:30 matey; im not saying gods did it
01:30 XRevan86; matey: By men.
01:30 matey; this isnt a GOTCHA
01:30 matey; okay, but how did men lift them?
01:30 matey; i would also assume men
01:30 XRevan86; matey: Levers and shit.
01:31 matey; fair enough
01:31 matey; ive certainly read the one about a lever big enough and the world, etc
01:31 XRevan86; Levers are like a weight cheat-code :)
01:31 matey; i used to talk to a guy that build a house without a crane, using a system of pulleys
01:31 matey; built
01:32 matey; big fucking logs
01:32 matey; bigger than the ones used in most cabins
01:32 matey; most people doing similar use a crane, he was like nahhhhhh
01:32 matey; showoff
01:32 matey; cool project though
01:33 matey; so we can rule out gods moving the largest blocks of all time because levers
01:33 MinceR; 17 022803 < XRevan86> I mean, the initial gods are simple enough that humanity universally just wrote them off as fiction.
01:33 MinceR; you mean, their cults were defeated by other cults
01:34 MinceR; and those cults wrote off all rival gods as fiction
01:34 matey; both
01:34 DaemonFC; https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/16/europe/queen-easter-sunday-intl-scli-gbr/index.html
01:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/16/europe/queen-easter-sunday-intl-scli-gbr/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/16/europe/queen-easter-sunday-intl-scli-gbr/index.html
01:34 TR Bot; Elizabeth will not attend Easter Sunday service at Windsor, royal source says - CNN
01:34 DaemonFC; The queen went on light duty? LOL
01:34 DaemonFC; How much lighter does it get than waving at a football game?
01:34 matey; when one wasnt making breakfast for the prime minister
01:35 MinceR; is a human using a crane a god?
01:35 DaemonFC; Well, British breakfasts are as bad as the rest of it
01:35 matey; mincer: great question
01:35 DaemonFC; Those horrible Heinz beans.
01:35 DaemonFC; On toast.
01:35 matey; though so far my answers have suggested my answer is no
01:35 matey; on the other hand... im interested in the oldest god stories humanity has discovered
01:35 matey; wikipedia says those are: 2nd oldest: the epic of gilgamesh
01:36 matey; oldest: the pyramid scripts
01:36 matey; if you know an older one let me know
01:36 matey; in the epic of gilgamesh, (a story ripped off by the old testament about a homoerotic sun god, yay)
01:36 matey; i mean theres gay sex in it and everything
01:36 matey; with a BEAST MAN! woo hoo
01:37 matey; but first hes seduced by a prostitute-- and THIS from a lecture at harvard by a scholarly expert on the material!
01:37 DaemonFC; https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gurgling-dash-sounds.157000/
01:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: tacomaworld.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gurgling-dash-sounds.157000/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/gurgling-dash-sounds.157000/
01:37 TR Bot; Gurgling dash sounds... | Tacoma World
01:37 DaemonFC; My car started doing this today, but burping the coolant system seems to have fixed it.
01:38 MinceR; my guess would be An, Enlil, Ninhursag and Enki
01:38 matey; do you take the lid off then burp it like tupperware?
01:38 DaemonFC; I had a flush a few days ago and some air from the heater core seems to had finally worked its way loose and into the system.
01:38 matey; enkido! but the names keep getting updated
01:38 DaemonFC; It goes "Whoosh! Glug glug glug!". It's not uncommon.
01:38 matey; thats what she said
01:38 MinceR; Enkidu != Enki
01:38 matey; good to know
01:38 DaemonFC; If it bothers you, you can just burp the system.
01:39 DaemonFC; It usually goes away, but not that fast.
01:39 matey; but this was enkidu
01:39 matey; so my point about bringing up the epic of gilgamesh was
01:39 matey; these gods may have used technology
01:39 matey; like powerful wristwatches or something
01:39 matey; bracelets
01:39 matey; we dont know
01:39 matey; so is a "human" with a crane a god?
01:39 MinceR; kara kesh
01:39 matey; in the epic of gilgamesh, maybe
01:40 matey; and what does this have to do with tech?
01:40 XRevan86; On contrast, I consider god a form of magic, and when something makes sense, it's not magic.
01:40 matey; the magic wristwatches were proprietary!
01:40 matey; <XRevan86> On contrast, I consider god a form of magic, and when something makes sense, it's not magic. <- yes but youre forcing consistency among data from very different sources
01:40 XRevan86; Magic doesn't exist practically by definition.
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01:41 matey; its a bit like expecting all electrodes to be cathodes, its arbitary and unfair.
01:41 matey; "if some electrodes are cathodes and some are anodes, then clearly 'electrodes' are a lot of hooey'"
01:41 MinceR; this is outrageous!
01:42 MinceR; it's unfair!
01:42 matey; your conclusion may be right but your categorisation doesnt seem fair
01:42 matey; by "fair" i mean "reasonable" and "not arbitrary"
01:42 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL34_Oi5RH8
01:42 TR Bot; https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=qL34_Oi5RH8
01:42 TR Bot; invidious.namazso.eu | This is Outrageous it's unfair. [#1] - Invidious
01:42 matey; (in this context)
01:42 matey; /me doesnt even have to look, is sure its from labyrinth
01:42 XRevan86; If X doesn't exist and Y is a form of X, then Y doesn't exist.
01:43 matey; and Y is a form of X <- this is the step where you force everything into the same category, even if it isnt
01:43 matey; the statement isnt wrong, but i think there are things that dont fit that statement
01:43 MinceR; it's not from labyrinth
01:43 matey; and yorue lumping them together
01:43 matey; <MinceR> it's not from labyrinth <-- well youre no fun, being unpredictable
01:43 MinceR; :>
01:45 matey; anyway god starts out simple, then humans make it complicated, because religion is a lot like software that way
01:46 matey; im not insisting god exists-- or that man didnt create god
01:46 matey; only that man cant leave anything simple :)
01:46 matey; but just because its insanely complicated now, doesnt mean the whole idea is nonsense
01:46 matey; it may be, but not for that reason.
01:46 matey; this is why i will likely never be a theological noncogniwhatsit
01:47 matey; to me it sounds like someone saying unix is nonsense because systemd exists
01:47 matey; and that too isnt fair :)
01:48 XRevan86; matey: Fine, if we look at "god" as "magical dude who lives above the earth's disc", then sure, that's defined well enough.
01:48 matey; and these may be horrible misrepresentations of the arguments ive heard, but its not deliberate. i may misunderstand however
01:48 matey; "who lives above the earth's disc" <- now youre being cynical!
01:49 matey; i think the earth was round in the epic of gilgamesh
01:49 matey; unless it was crushed into a disc by all the epic lovemaking
01:50 XRevan86; matey: If I were cynical, I would've included cow tits and slime in there.
01:50 matey; i think song of solomon was more colourful, but lets face it he never got down to it, song of solomon was all foreplay
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01:50 matey; matey: If I were cynical, I would've included cow tits <- well, i mean cow tits are sacred and whatnot
01:50 matey; by virtue of being part of the cow
01:51 matey; incredibly if a cow is in the road you cant bother it
01:51 XRevan86; Replace "cow" with "cat" and I'll agree.
01:51 matey; but if you need milk... then you can just go up and start grabbing its tits
01:52 matey; but if you need to get from a to be, youre out of luck
01:52 matey; you just have to sit there
01:52 matey; to try to nudge it out of the way would be incredibly rude
01:53 XRevan86; From a to be or from a not to be? That is the question.
01:53 matey; to do is to be
01:53 matey; to be is to do
01:53 matey; dooby dooby do
01:53 XRevan86; shoo bee doo
01:55 matey; i would say more shit has been done in the name of ridiculously complicated gods than because of simple ones
01:55 matey; but that might be a causal relationship
01:55 matey; i mean a lot of shit was done for simple gods too
01:55 matey; and the baptists for example, oversimplify a lot and only make things worse
01:56 psydruid; the lengths to which some people go to justify the resource hogging of LLVM makes me think that a whole generation of nominally free software but more likely open source developers is lost
01:56 matey; a whole generation of nominally free software but more likely open source developers <- that was the point
01:56 MinceR; what is "the earth's disc" -- is it the mass storage for the simulation we're living in?
01:56 matey; systemd was a cyberweapon, llvm is the systemd of compilers
01:56 MinceR; also, discs are rount
01:56 matey; <MinceR> what is "the earth's disc" <- its MOSTLY porn
01:57 XRevan86; MinceR: A lot of shit has been done in the name of fictitious concerns.
01:57 matey; <MinceR> also, discs are rount <- aha! on this one i can beat you
01:57 MinceR; s/nt/nd/
01:57 matey; well, sort of
01:58 matey; A lot of shit has been done in the name of fictitious concerns. <- fictitious concerns are better. you just tell people to do dumb shit and wave your hands a lot http://0pointer.net/blog/
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01:59 matey; you still have to explain why, but now its a lot less work and a lot more fun!
01:59 XRevan86; MinceR: Discs are circular, Earth is spherical.
01:59 matey; earth is round in more than one way, discs are (typically) round just one way
02:00 matey; round along a single axis that is
02:00 matey; but mincer knows that, hes just fuckin with us
02:00 XRevan86; "Round" is not descriptive enough to point out the distinction as it means both.
02:00 MinceR; :>
02:01 matey; as to discs are round...
02:01 MinceR; https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/762/263/14d.gif
02:01 XRevan86; MinceR: I don't get it.
02:03 matey; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaped_Compact_Disc A shaped compact disc is a non-circular compact disc. Examples include business card CDs, CDs in the shape of a star, a map of a country, interview material and more. These disks are usually made for marketing purposes and are properly read by most CD-ROM drives (and audio CD players, although custom-shaped CDs tend to contain less data). There are many companies that sell CDs with custom shapes.
02:03 TR Bot; Shaped compact disc - Wikipedia
02:03 MinceR; XRevan86: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/652/718/e9d.jpg
02:03 matey; so the flat earth could actually be shaped like one of those dick graffiti that you see all over eastern europe (and probably everywhere else too)
02:04 matey; (except singapore where they hang you for that)
02:04 matey; (and dont get the pun)
02:04 XRevan86; MinceR: Want to hear a vulgar Russian joke that's vaguely related to the spherical/circular debate? :)
02:04 MinceR; the bible mentions "the four corners of the earth", iirc
02:04 MinceR; XRevan86: yeah, but i don't understand much russian
02:05 matey; hopis also talk about the four corners of the earth
02:05 matey; well, the four directions
02:05 MinceR; not the same
02:05 matey; no
02:05 matey; but maybe one is a shitty translation
02:05 MinceR; or maybe the hopis are better at speculating about things they don't know
02:05 matey; theres also a rough approximation of pi in the bible
02:05 MinceR; yeah
02:05 MinceR; 3.0
02:06 matey; maybe to figure out the circumference of the disc :)
02:06 MinceR; good job, "God"!
02:06 matey; or maybe the hopis are better at speculating about things they don't know <- maybe they just hopi theyure right
02:07 MinceR; :>
02:07 matey; hopi, and wishi, and prayi, and waiti
02:07 MinceR; wishful thinki
02:08 matey; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k
02:08 TR Bot; https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=ycbgHM1mI0k
02:08 TR Bot; invidio.xamh.de | Dusty Springfield - Wishin' And Hopin' - Invidious
02:08 matey; hinduism is still my favourite
02:08 matey; castes fucking suck though
02:09 MinceR; i prefer the religions in D&D and Pathfinder RPG
02:10 XRevan86; Petka approaches Basilivanych and asks: what's "nuance"?
02:10 XRevan86; Basilivanych says: "take off your pants, Petka", and so Petka did.
02:10 XRevan86; Then Basilivanych takes out his dick and inserts into the Petka's arse.
02:10 XRevan86; "Well look, Petka", he says, "you have a dick in the arse, and I have a dick in the arse, but there's a nuance.
02:10 matey; whats fun about that statement is someone will invariably say "ah but those arent REAL RELIGIONS"
02:10 matey; fun ensues
02:10 XRevan86; MinceR: ^ There it is.
02:11 matey; that joke works pretty well translated into english
02:11 MinceR; XRevan86: lol
02:11 MinceR; matey: lol
02:12 MinceR; that's like people talking about "real" gods vs "fictional" gods
02:12 matey; im going to kick myself if i never use that joke while explaining something
02:12 XRevan86; :D
02:12 matey; <MinceR> that's like people talking about "real" gods vs "fictional" god <- well, yes!
02:12 matey; but theres a nuance!
02:13 matey; actually i think we are mostly on the same page with this
02:13 XRevan86; So yea, Earth is round and discs are round, but there's a nuance :).
02:13 MinceR; :>
02:13 matey; but are dicks round?
02:13 XRevan86; Only in one axis.
02:13 matey; i mean theyre probably not in minecraft
02:14 XRevan86; Or rather, two axes I guess.
02:16 matey; what else should i be? all topologies
02:18 matey; /me wants fictional stories containing gods that arent found in stories considered non-fiction to be called "divine Inception"
02:18 XRevan86; To further improve the adaptation of the joke the names should be adapted to imply a business environment.
02:19 matey; and the business environment should be implemented in cobol and designed in uml
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02:19 MinceR; lol
02:19 XRevan86; matey: Obviously.
02:20 matey; its basically what grace hopper wrote it for
02:20 XRevan86; Code is not real code unless it can be represented in UML.
02:21 XRevan86; Next logical step: there's no real code :)
02:21 matey; /me writes everything on the back of a napkin and puts angle brackets on either side
02:21 matey; DONE!
02:22 matey; i am the opening bracket and the closing bracket. though shalt have no other modeling languages before me.
02:22 XRevan86; matey: SGML begs to differ
02:22 matey; heretic!
02:23 matey; /me doesnt actually care, probably mixed up uml and sgml already
02:23 matey; at least one of those has angle brackets, and uml is the one that people were more obsessed with i think
02:24 matey; which doesnt necessarily mean its the more universal one
02:24 matey; i think i installed a program once that let you do uml modeling
02:24 matey; just to see what-- i couldnt make anything out of it
02:24 matey; this was a very long time ago
02:24 XRevan86; matey: UML is a visual language, it has squares and stuff.
02:24 matey; like flowcharting
02:25 XRevan86; matey: Yes.
02:25 matey; sgml has tags (and this inspired html and xml?)
02:25 XRevan86; matey: HTML and XML are subsets of SGML.
02:25 matey; but uml is used for all kinds of processes, not just code
02:26 XRevan86; So every HTML and XML are SGMLs.
02:26 matey; fun
02:26 matey; i thought it was implied, but ive never heard it confirmed
02:27 matey; i got very curious about it one day, looked at as much of it as possible, and failed to get any of it to inspire or accomplish anything useful for my own purposes
02:27 matey; probably around 2010 or so
02:27 matey; either way, uml is like sgml, but theres a nuance
02:28 matey; theyve both got ml in it!
02:28 matey; but ul and sgl are better
02:28 matey; because they do entire litres
02:30 matey; i think there are two kinds of people who know about uml
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02:30 matey; those who know about it because they were forced to use it at some point
02:30 matey; and those who know about it because of a link on wikipedia
02:31 matey; theres no need to guess which group im from
02:32 matey; but i still think i installed a uml modeler at some point. i dont know what i thought it was going to do, but it didnt do it
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02:33 matey; maybe i expected to make a useful diagram of something with it
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02:33 matey; but dia and open/libreoffice draw are probably more straightforward for that
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02:34 matey; a flat earth would make things a lot easier for cartographers
02:34 matey; they could stop mapping everything to spheres and back to rectangles then
02:35 matey; maybe just use mspaint
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02:38 psydruid; or Kolourpaint compiled using LLVM after compiling that on your local supercomputer
02:39 matey; thats too farfetched :)
02:39 MinceR; flattening the earth would be a lot more difficult than using projections, though
02:39 MinceR; and a lot more expensive, too
02:39 matey; well i have to wonder
02:39 matey; there would be all those people who used to do projections looking for work
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02:39 matey; i wonder if they would petition to remap the disc back to a square or something
02:40 matey; just to have something to do and get paid
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02:40 psydruid; open cartography
02:40 matey; it would be pretty useless for navigation, but someone would prefer it
02:40 matey; because someone always does
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02:40 matey; probably the same people who think llvm is better than gcc despite being that much larger
02:41 matey; "gcc is obsolete, i like this orbital computing platform thats blotting out the sun so i can bootstrap my compiler"
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02:42 psydruid; a few years ago I came to the realization that I would have to build a system with at least 128 GB of RAM so I could build LLVM
02:42 matey; its great because we dont have to make new jokes, we can just use alt.humor.windows and recycle everything
02:43 matey; 128 GB of RAM <- fuck that!
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02:43 matey; obviously if you want to compile llvm you have to use the clown
02:44 psydruid; where you have TBs of RAM
02:44 psydruid; that's an excellent choice
02:44 bnchs; i updated my system today
02:44 matey; and its the choice of a new generation!
02:44 bnchs; got greeted with my iconset being uhhhh
02:44 bnchs; all flat
02:44 bnchs; and some icons broken
02:44 matey; (old marketing slogan for pepsi)
02:44 bnchs; thats a good thing of arch to do
02:44 matey; <bnchs> got greeted with my iconset being uhhhh <- youre the second, dfc beat you to it
02:45 matey; he was complaining about this a week ago
02:45 matey; go ahead, just thought id you tell you theres a club
02:45 psydruid; modern software engineering
02:45 matey; i dont use icons so
02:45 matey; i just delete them. sometimes a see a button with no icon
02:45 matey; if theyre sane theres a tooltip (better yet, a tooltip i can then turn off)
02:46 matey; since most of my gui software is:
02:46 matey; 1. a browser
02:46 matey; 2. a graphic editor
02:46 matey; 3. a text editor
02:46 matey; and then a bunch of term windows (or text editors with shells)
02:46 matey; i dont need a lot of icons
02:47 matey; the graphic editor has its own visuals for whats what
02:47 matey; i bet in gtk4 they bullied gimp into using gtk4 icons instead
02:47 matey; just a guess
02:47 bnchs; and apparently
02:47 bnchs; emacs now has the name of the buffer in the title now
02:48 bnchs; and says GNU Emacs at [hostname]
02:48 matey; efoxs
02:48 bnchs; rather than a constant bland "emacs@[hostname]"
02:48 matey; emozs
02:48 matey; emacs also uses harfbuzz now
02:48 matey; from github
02:48 matey; as does everything gnome, i believe
02:49 psydruid; GNU Emacs at Microsoft Headquarters
02:49 matey; not yet
02:49 matey; but parts of elpa certainly
02:49 matey; and parts of emacs
02:51 matey; this went down a couple weeks ago https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/private/discussion/
02:51 TR Bot; not resolve host: lists.fsfellowship.eu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/private/discussion/ )
02:51 matey; with no notice-- despite the email list behind it remaining operational
02:51 matey; its pococks mailing list
02:52 matey; he just won against fedora suing him
02:52 matey; it didnt go down then-- but a week or two later
02:52 DaemonFC; ""Fuel system service" is one of the biggest scams at dealerships. Took my car to the dealer for one of the "free" oil changes when the car had only 20,000 miles on it. Service advisor finds me in the waiting room and says "We recommend a 4-wheel alignment, wheel balancing, and fuel system cleaning. The total for everything will be $600." I simply said "A car with 20,000 miles on it doesn't need any of that, so no thank you." They proceeded to
02:52 DaemonFC; print on the service order that I "refused" those recommended services, and then proceeded to harass me via daily phone calls and text messages for two weeks after the appointment to come in and get those things done.
02:52 DaemonFC; GM simply pours a bottle of GM Fuel System Cleaner in it, which is literally rebranded Techron Concentrate. I can buy 2 bottles of that at the auto store for $12."
02:52 matey; i dont think its ibm, i think its pocock. but im still really curious
02:53 DaemonFC; Same thing happened to me the other day.
02:53 DaemonFC; They "offered" a $126 bottle of GM fuel system cleaner.
02:53 DaemonFC; I guess that's $6 for the cleaner and $120 for a mechanic to pour it in the gas tank.
02:53 DaemonFC; What kind of an idiot can't go get a can of Gumout and pour it in their gas tank?
02:53 matey; /me sends dfc packets of gm fuel system cleaner like samples of tide
02:54 DaemonFC; Techron doesn't do shit.
02:54 DaemonFC; The BMW stealerships rebrand it too as "BMW fuel system cleaner" and were charging $180 for it last time I looked.
02:54 DaemonFC; KIA does it too.
02:54 bnchs; matey: one of the fun things about emacs is the games and fun shit about it
02:55 bnchs; like emacs psychotherapist
02:55 bnchs; zone out which fucked up your text with some effects
02:55 DaemonFC; It's a profit center for dealers because they don't have to do anything to make the money. Open the gas tank and down the hatch.
02:55 matey; of course the bmw rebrand would cost more than the gm brand, thats how intellectual-- legal handwaving works!
02:55 matey; the insurance on it also runs higher
02:56 DaemonFC; THey charged her $500 for a car battery.
02:56 DaemonFC; Sounds like they let her off light.
02:56 DaemonFC; Ford wanted me to buy a $400 car battery in 2005.
02:56 DaemonFC; :)
02:57 DaemonFC; I told them leave it running and took it over to Walmart and paid $80.
02:57 matey; by the way, bnchs now has his icons "renovated" as well
02:57 bnchs; yeah
02:57 matey; im not sure if gnome is involved, he did an "update"
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02:57 bnchs; using xfce
02:57 bnchs; with adwaita icon set
02:58 DaemonFC; "$700 for a tow, a battery, and some snake oil. Did they at least buy her breakfast in the morning?"
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03:13 DaemonFC; schestowitz, I rewrote my review of Batteries Plus.
03:13 DaemonFC; "The store owner here is a very odd fellow indeed. He's also quite badly tempered.
03:13 DaemonFC; I brought my 2008 Buick Lacrosse in for a new car battery and he upsold me a second key and a remote and I figured "Why not? I did only get one when I bought it." which is actually quite common on older cars where grandma forgot where she put her keys.
03:13 DaemonFC; This car is in exceptional condition for its age and so clean you can eat off of it, however Bhushan Chouhan, the owner, blamed my car when his key (defective, per Anthony Buick, where I had to go get the work redone correctly) stopped working.
03:13 DaemonFC; The Buick dealer today told me that Batteries Plus sells junk car keys and that whoever cut it didn't even cut the physical part correctly, and the transponder inside was not accepting the coding correctly. It would work for a minute or two and then the car would forget it because it's a non-genuine key. Aftermarket crap.
03:13 DaemonFC; When I had Anthony Buick make me a key, the key worked, and continues to work fine. I also had to have them give me a remote control that works because Mr. Chouhan at Batteries Plus went further when trying to correct his key that didn't work, and deauthorized my remote in the process, so I had to pay Buick $168 today. Should have gone there to begin with.
03:13 DaemonFC; I also bought a car battery from Mr. Chouhan, which seems to work okay for now. I hope that the warranty is honored at their other stores if I have to use it, because Mr. Chouhan does not accept responsibility for his work and find time (even though he doesn't seem to have very many customers while I was there) to make things right, and also refused to issue a full refund for his insufficiently operable generic products. When I demanded a
03:14 DaemonFC; refund, he called me at my home while I was having dinner with my spouse, babbling incoherently, screaming, and lobbing all sorts of verbal abuse, including claiming that he would call the police on me. For what, I am not sure. Orderly Conduct?
03:14 DaemonFC; Anyway, if you get security keys cut here, you may find out that they just mysteriously stop working, and hopefully you're either at home or at a safe place where you can have your car towed from when it happens.
03:14 DaemonFC; Or you can go to your authorized dealer and get the job done right, with nobody threatening you.
03:14 DaemonFC; After he refused to refund the programming fee, I have decided to escalate this issue through the appropriate channels.
03:14 DaemonFC; From my understanding, having read the Better Business Bureau complaints of Batteries Plus in general, most of their stores appear to me as though they operate much like Mr. Chouhan's locations. Many customers at other stores have complained that the Duracell car batteries in particular don't last very long and some of the people at the stores start getting squirrely when the customer asked for a warranty replacement.
03:14 DaemonFC; So take this for what it is. Even Walmart will honor the warranty terms on their car batteries, and many vehicles I've owned ran fine with Walmart car batteries for years.
03:14 DaemonFC; Another thing that Batteries Plus did was claim "free installation" of car batteries when you bought them from their store, and then when I got down there at least, Mr. Chouhan decided that there would be another $50 in "difficult installation fees" because he had to move a battery bar and a fuse box out of the way that involved all of about four nuts (well, again in my opinion, five if you include him) and the battery terminals."
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03:28 AltLink_c52c; [:J] There is no 'autonomous bug report' - all issues are posted by living flesh (or attacker's bad robot)
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03:30 MinceR; metal, surrounded by living tissue
03:32 AltLink_c52c; [:J] https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/e6/Fallout4_Render_SynthGen2.jpg/revision/latest
03:32 MinceR; :)
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06:34 DaemonFC; <MinceR> metal, surrounded by living tissue
06:35 DaemonFC; That's one way to describe my mom. (They put a metal plate in her leg after she fell and broke it.)
06:36 DaemonFC; They never explained how the T-1000 survived the time machine but the T-3000 couldn't.
06:37 DaemonFC; Liquid metal and machine phase matter are both inorganic.
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06:55 TR Bot; How I'm Using SNI Proxying and IPv6 to Share Port 443 Between Webapps
06:55 TR News; "Raspberry Pi with an AMD Radeon 5450" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-run-glmark2-drm-benchmark-external-gpu-on-raspberry-pi | Source: Jeff Geerling
06:55 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-run-glmark2-drm-benchmark-external-gpu-on-raspberry-pi https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/how-run-glmark2-drm-benchmark-external-gpu-on-raspberry-pi
06:55 TR Bot; How to run glmark2-drm to benchmark an external GPU on a Raspberry Pi | Jeff Geerling
06:56 TR News; "Another good question. Why a fourteen-year-old program that doesn't even support CSS 3.0?" https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kompozer-linux.html | Source: Dedoimedo
06:56 TR Bot; How to install and use KompoZer in Linux - Tutorial
06:57 TR News; "In a recently accepted paper in the open access journal Quantitative Methods for Psychology that Daniel Schad led, we discuss how, using Bayes rule" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/ever-wondered-how-the-probability-of-the-null-hypothesis-being-true-changes-given-a-significant-result/ | Source: Rlang
06:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: r-bloggers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/ever-wondered-how-the-probability-of-the-null-hypothesis-being-true-changes-given-a-significant-result/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/04/ever-wondered-how-the-probability-of-the-null-hypothesis-being-true-changes-given-a-significant-result/
06:57 TR Bot; wondered how the probability of the null hypothesis being true changes given a significant result? | R-bloggers
06:57 TR News; "When hiring developers, there are many things we are looking for, but over the years I have found that raw coding ability is easily the most important quality to look for." https://freakingrectangle.wordpress.com/2022/04/15/how-to-freaking-hire-great-developers/ |
06:57 TR Bot; How to Freaking Find Great Developers By Having Them Read Code | Freaking Rectangle
06:58 TR News; "The usual way of error checking in C, where you check the return and only then look at errno, works when you use it, but its possible to construct cases with surprising results" https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/cgo-does-clear-errno | Source: Ted Unangst
06:58 TR Bot; cgo does clear errno
06:58 TR News; "One advantage of the Wiener construction is that the Kuratowski pair has an odd degenerate case: if !!a=b!! it is not really a pair at all, it's a singleton." https://blog.plover.com/2022/04/15/ | Source: Mark Dominus
06:58 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Unordered pairs la Wiener
06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.01 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 264.63
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07:03 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 16, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/irc-log-160422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/irc-log-160422/
07:03 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Saturday, April 16, 2022 | Techrights
07:08 TR News; "The problem isnt Twitter doing something to them; the problem is the people on Twitter doing something to them." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-musk-buying-twitter/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
07:08 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-musk-buying-twitter/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-quick-thought-on-musk-buying-twitter/
07:08 TR Bot; A Quick Thought on Musk Buying Twitter - Daniel Miessler
07:09 TR News; "With over 530,000 registered members, according to threat intelligence firm Recorded Future," https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/raidforums-seizure/index.html | Source: CNN
07:09 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/raidforums-seizure/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/12/politics/raidforums-seizure/index.html
07:09 TR Bot; FBI and international partners seize control of popular hacking forum - CNNPolitics
07:09 TR News; "Raidforums.com, along with Raid.ws and Raid.lol domains used by the site, were seized by the U.S. Department of Justice" https://siliconangle.com/2022/04/12/raidforums-hacking-forum-take-offline-founder-indicted/ | Source: Silicon Angle
07:09 TR Bot; hacking forum take offline and founder indicted - SiliconANGLE
07:12 TR News; "In a parallel statement, Europol also lauded the takedown saying the RaidForums online marketplace had been seized in an operation" https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-european-partners-announce-takedown-hacker-website-raidforums-2022-04-12/ | Source: Reuters
07:12 TR Bot; and European partners take down hacker website RaidForums | Reuters
07:13 TR News; "This post assumes that you possess some familiarity with zero-knowledge proofs." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/04/15/the-frozen-heart-vulnerability-in-bulletproofs/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
07:13 TR Bot; The Frozen Heart vulnerability in Bulletproofs | Trail of Bits Blog
07:13 TR News; "So heres how this will go, folks. Ill show you a screenshot of the site, and the date it existed." https://kevq.uk/the-design-history-of-this-website/ | Source: Kev Quirk
07:13 TR Bot; The Design History of This Website - Kev Quirk
07:13 TR News; "Want to write a new Wikipedia article but can't think of a subject not already covered?" https://blog.plover.com/2022/04/16/#missing | Source: Mark Dominus
07:13 TR Bot; The Universe of Discourse : Notable items missing from English Wikipedia
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07:15 TR News; "Together with Dell Technologies, we deliver world-leading Open Source solutions and services that capitalize on the benefits of Open Source" https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-dell-technologies-world-2022 | Source: Ubuntu
07:15 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-dell-technologies-world-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-at-dell-technologies-world-2022
07:15 TR Bot; at Dell Technologies World 2022 | Ubuntu
07:18 TR News; "According to sources, the thinking is that if a digital currency has to have the utility of paper currency" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/rbis-digital-currency-to-have-anonymity-feature-for-low-value-transactions/90873355 | Source: India Times
07:18 TR Bot; RBI's digital currency to have anonymity feature for low value transactions, CIO News, ET CIO
07:18 TR News; [Old] "Nearly 70% of smart TVs and 46% of game consoles were found to contain hardcoded DNS settings" https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole |
07:18 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: labzilla.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://labzilla.io/blog/force-dns-pihole
07:18 TR Bot; Your Smart TV is probably ignoring your PiHole - LabZilla
07:21 TR News; "Video conferencing apps (VCAs) make it possible for previously private spaces" https://wiscprivacy.com/papers/vca_mute.pdf |
07:22 TR News; "They found that all of the apps they tested occasionally gather raw audio data while mute is activated, with one popular app gathering information" https://techxplore.com/news/2022-04-youre-muted-videoconferencing-apps-mic.html | Source: TechXplore
07:22 TR Bot; You're muted... or are you? Videoconferencing apps may listen even when mic is off
07:22 TR News; [Old] "In the twentieth century, photography enabled the mass reproduction of art works, broadening their accessibility while degrading their individual impact." https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart | Source: New Yorker
07:22 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: newyorker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/have-iphone-cameras-become-too-smart
07:22 TR Bot; Have iPhone Cameras Become Too Smart? | The New Yorker
07:22 TR News; LXQt 1.1.0 Officially Released with File Manager DBus Support, New Themes and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163810
07:22 TR Bot; LXQt 1.1.0 Officially Released with File Manager DBus Support, New Themes and More | Tux Machines
07:27 TR News; "McNallys idea for how to implement a tracking system is quite unique, as it involves placing a particulate matter-sensing package" https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/15/tracking-the-harmful-particulate-pollution-from-wildfires-intelligently/ | Source: Arduino
07:27 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/15/tracking-the-harmful-particulate-pollution-from-wildfires-intelligently/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/15/tracking-the-harmful-particulate-pollution-from-wildfires-intelligently/
07:27 TR Bot; Tracking the harmful particulate pollution from wildfires intelligently | Arduino Blog
07:30 TR News; "In other words, we can say that its nothing but a safe and reliable database of records." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/5-reasons-to-become-a-blockchain-developer/ | Source: Geeks For Geeks
07:30 TR Bot; 5 Reasons to Become a Blockchain Developer - GeeksforGeeks
07:30 TR News; "This RfC was open to community input between January 10, 2022 and April 12, 2022." https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Stop_accepting_cryptocurrency_donations |
07:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Stop_accepting_cryptocurrency_donations https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Stop_accepting_cryptocurrency_donations
07:30 TR Bot; Requests for comment/Stop accepting cryptocurrency donations - Meta
07:33 TR News; "So much for that. Add an unexpected family death into the mix. At least this is all getting out of the way while I'm young." gemini://harrison.cafe/it-pours-2
07:34 TR News; "Perhaps related to this, Ive drastically reduced my participation in and consumption of social media over the last several months." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220416_updating_inconsistently
07:36 TR News; "Leysner is one of the tens of thousands of victims of what the Dutch have dubbed the toeslagenaffaire, or the child care benefits scandal." https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/ | Source: Politico
07:36 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: politico.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/
07:36 TR Bot; Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks of using algorithms POLITICO
07:36 TR News; "The French Presidency is aiming to loosen restrictions on law enforcement use of "artificial intelligence" technology" https://www.statewatch.org/news/2022/april/eu-ai-act-plans-to-loosen-controls-on-law-enforcement-use-of-artificial-intelligence/ | Source: State Watch
07:36 TR Bot; Statewatch | EU: AI Act: Plans to loosen controls on law enforcement use of artificial intelligence
07:36 TR News; [Old] "The European Union institutions are taking the significant step to regulate artificial intelligence systems" https://edri.org/our-work/civil-society-calls-on-the-eu-to-ban-predictive-ai-systems-in-policing-and-criminal-justice-in-the-ai-act/ | Source: EDRI
07:36 TR Bot; Civil society calls on the EU to ban predictive AI systems in policing and criminal justice in the AI Act - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
07:36 TR News; "This month marked my first time filing taxes in two countries, and I can assure you it is the worst." https://drewdevault.com/2022/04/15/Status-update-April-2022.html | Source: Drew DeVault
07:36 TR Bot; timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://drewdevault.com/2022/04/15/Status-update-April-2022.html )
07:37 TR News; "Following a suspension last month, major streaming site Lookmovie was forced to switch to a new domain." https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-pounce-on-new-lookmovie-domain-plus-streaming-iptv-sites-220416/ | Source: Torrent Freak
07:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-pounce-on-new-lookmovie-domain-plus-streaming-iptv-sites-220416/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-ace-pounce-on-new-lookmovie-domain-plus-streaming-iptv-sites-220416/
07:37 TR Bot; Pounce on New Lookmovie Domain Plus Streaming & IPTV Sites * TorrentFreak
07:49 TR News; "Yishan Wong, who was Reddits chief executive officer for more than two years between 2012 and 2014" https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/former-reddit-chief-says-elon-musk-is-in-for-a-world-of-pain-over-twitter-takeover/news-story/8cf22f9b4996eb4d4498f15bc76f006d | Source: News AU
07:49 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/former-reddit-chief-says-elon-musk-is-in-for-a-world-of-pain-over-twitter-takeover/news-story/8cf22f9b4996eb4d4498f15bc76f006d )
07:49 TR News; "Despite the recent revelation of Musks stake in the company, hes been buying shares since the end of January." https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-shareholder-purchase/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
07:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jacobinmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-shareholder-purchase/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-shareholder-purchase/
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07:49 TR Bot; We Dont Need Billionaires Like Elon Musk
07:49 TR News; "But Killing added that information, as always, must be fact-checked" https://www.voanews.com/a/defeating-censorship-about-war-in-ukraine-a-focus-of-ted-conference/6532061.html | Source: VOA News
07:49 TR Bot; Defeating Censorship About War in Ukraine a Focus of TED Conference
07:50 TR News; "When it comes to manga, censorship will always be an issue needing closer examination, and reports of it happening seem to grow by the month." https://comicbook.com/anime/news/manga-censorship-controversy-religion-cult/ | Source: Comic Book
07:50 TR Bot; New Religious Manga Publisher Pulls Series Despite Censorship Protests
07:51 TR News; "There are two ways to look at the BBFC. One is as an organisation that does what it says, and classifies things." https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/04/13/the-classification-of-films-is-changing | Source: The Economist
07:51 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/04/13/the-classification-of-films-is-changing https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.economist.com/britain/2022/04/13/the-classification-of-films-is-changing
07:51 TR Bot; classification of films is changing | The Economist
07:53 TR News; "Now your generation is at the forefront of another breakthrough" https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/gen-z-join-labor-movement-change-the-world-union-organizing/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
07:53 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: jacobinmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/gen-z-join-labor-movement-change-the-world-union-organizing/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://jacobinmag.com/2022/04/gen-z-join-labor-movement-change-the-world-union-organizing/
07:53 TR Bot; Dear Gen Z: Now Is the Time to Join the Labor Movement and Change the World
07:55 TR News; no javascript present https://projects.rys.io/ukrainvasion/
07:55 TR Bot; Slides of Russian Invasion of Ukraine
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 77.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 263.91
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08:02 TR News; "If youre an experienced hacker, youve probably run into a problem at some point and thought lets make a tool to automate that." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/a-neat-little-tool-to-reset-the-fuses-on-your-attiny/ | Source: Hackaday
08:02 TR Bot; Neat Little Tool To Reset The Fuses On Your ATtiny | Hackaday
08:02 TR News; "The days of yore saw telex machines and dot-matrix printers with continuous feed paper churning out data in hardcopy form in offices around the world." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/rss-printer-gives-you-the-hard-copy-news-you-desire/ | Source: Hackaday
08:02 TR Bot; Printer Gives You The Hard Copy News You Desire | Hackaday
08:02 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to SAS Enterprise Miner Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163811
08:02 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to SAS Enterprise Miner | Tux Machines
08:03 TR News; "Im a huge DIYer. I dont like to buy things when I can build them myself." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/easy-extensible-open/ | Source: Hackaday
08:03 TR Bot; Extensible, Open | Hackaday
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08:22 TR News; "Having a pool is great, but it also requires significant monitoring and maintenance to keep it crystal clear and clean." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/iot-pool-monitor-helps-you-keep-it-crystal-clear/ | Source: Hackaday
08:22 TR Bot; Pool Monitor Helps You Keep It Crystal Clear | Hackaday
08:23 TR News; "Input devices consisting of optical readers for punched paper tape have been around since the earliest days of computing, so why stop now?" https://hackaday.com/2022/04/16/paper-tape-reader-self-calibrates-speaks-usb/ | Source: Hackaday
08:23 TR Bot; Tape Reader Self-calibrates, Speaks USB | Hackaday
08:23 TR News; "Im often asked whether consumers are better or worse off since the modern consumer movement took hold in the nineteen sixties" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/16/consumer-protection-progress-and-regress-sixties-now | Source: Common Dreams
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08:23 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/16/consumer-protection-progress-and-regress-sixties-now https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/16/consumer-protection-progress-and-regress-sixties-now
08:23 TR Bot; Opinion | Consumer Protection Progress and Regress From the Sixties to Now | Ralph Nader
08:23 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163813
08:23 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:24 TR News; Microsoft is organised crime https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-faces-antitrust-complaint-in-europe-about-its-cloud-services-11647463334 wsj paywall
08:24 TR Bot; Faces Antitrust Complaint in Europe About Its Cloud Services - WSJ
08:24 TR News; Snap! https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/do-ubuntu's-snap-deserve-so-much:1
08:24 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/do-ubuntu's-snap-deserve-so-much:1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/do-ubuntu's-snap-deserve-so-much:1
08:24 TR Bot; Do Ubuntu's Snap Deserve So Much Negativity?
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08:27 TR News; New York City https://truthout.org/articles/luxury-building-workers-in-new-york-city-authorize-strike/ | Source: TruthOut
08:27 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/luxury-building-workers-in-new-york-city-authorize-strike/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/luxury-building-workers-in-new-york-city-authorize-strike/
08:27 TR Bot; Luxury Building Workers in New York City Authorize Strike
08:29 TR News; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Oracle MySQL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163812
08:29 TR Bot; Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Oracle MySQL | Tux Machines
08:30 TR News; EC-R3568PC is a compact rugged mini PC based on Rockchip RK3568 SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/17/ec-r3568pc-compact-rugged-mini-pc-rockchip-rk3568/
08:30 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/17/ec-r3568pc-compact-rugged-mini-pc-rockchip-rk3568/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/17/ec-r3568pc-compact-rugged-mini-pc-rockchip-rk3568/
08:30 TR Bot; EC-R3568PC is a compact rugged mini PC based on Rockchip RK3568 SoC - CNX Software
08:34 TR News; No mobile phone is good for privacy, due to the topology of the disservice https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
08:34 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
08:34 TR Bot; mjg59 | The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy
08:36 TR News; Why did TechRadar REPOST (date change) this sensationalist, misleading garbage??? https://www.techradar.com/news/multiple-vulnerabilities-put-40-million-ubuntu-users-at-risk
08:36 TR Bot; vulnerabilities put 40 million Ubuntu users at risk | TechRadar
08:37 TR News; "Windows Defender is a b!t@h.. just bends right over and takes it up rear input.. Emsisoft is a joke... won't find anything until AFTER its found by something else... I've manually quarantined more files than it has done." https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771042/somebodys-screwing-with-me/
08:37 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771042/somebodys-screwing-with-me/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/771042/somebodys-screwing-with-me/
08:37 TR Bot; Somebody's screwing with me - Virus, Trojan, Spyware, and Malware Removal Help
08:39 TR News; "We have lots of feedback on Pop!_OS, keyboard shortcuts, and backup scripts. We also have comments on installing Linux on Asus computers and talk about some Elementary news" https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp422
08:39 TR Bot; Going Linux Shownotes
08:40 TR News; "Now that I'm back on Pipewire it's time to fix my terrible audio solution and setup a patchbay, and since my original stint on Pipewire there are now some native pipewire patchbays like Qpwgraph which work really well." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBGsbwMo40
08:40 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=TDBGsbwMo40
08:40 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | Qpwgraph: Easiest Way To Reroute Pipewire Audio - Invidious
08:43 TR News; LOL. Branding mice "mac" and "gaming". They're generic mice, stop with this BS. What next? Mice for women and mice for men? https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2022/04/16/computer-mouse-selection/
08:43 TR Bot; Computer Mouse Selection Jon's FOSS Blog
08:44 TR News; Todays cars arent made to last long or respect the will of drivers/owners/buyers; this is a very big deal! http://techrights.org/2022/04/16/modern-cars/
08:44 TR Bot; You Probably Dont Want Modern Cars | Techrights
08:44 TR News; Twitter tells me that more than a month after I left entirely the number of so-called impressions suddenly quadrupled (or more); this might suggest doctoring by Twitter (which wants to inflate its perceived value) http://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/
08:44 TR Bot; Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | Techrights
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08:49 TR News; What Is A Chromebook? How Does It Compare To Windows & Mac? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163814
08:49 TR Bot; What Is A Chromebook? How Does It Compare To Windows & Mac? | Tux Machines
08:49 TR News; Ubuntu vs Arch Linux for Performance, Gaming & Programming Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163815
08:49 TR Bot; Ubuntu vs Arch Linux for Performance, Gaming & Programming | Tux Machines
08:52 TR News; TechRadar is RE-posting old junk. I think it's a form of SEO abuse.
08:52 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163816
08:52 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
08:52 TR News; Essentially free Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163817
08:52 TR Bot; Essentially free | Tux Machines
08:53 TR News; How I scan family photos on Linux | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/scan-family-photos-linux Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
08:53 TR Bot; I scan family photos on Linux | Opensource.com
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08:57 TR News; "Lots and lots of non-fiction in this mix. Maybe a tiny bit better than normal at not buying tons of books that I don't have time to read, although my reading (and particularly my reviewing) rate has been a bit slow lately." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2022-04/001.html
08:57 TR Bot; Eagle's Path: First 2022 haul post (2022-04-16)
08:57 TR News; Any PROFOUND practical benefit? Probably not... patent evergreening https://linuxgizmos.com/broadcom-introduces-worlds-first-wi-fi-7-chipset-solutions/
08:57 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/broadcom-introduces-worlds-first-wi-fi-7-chipset-solutions/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/broadcom-introduces-worlds-first-wi-fi-7-chipset-solutions/
08:57 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/broadcom-introduces-worlds-first-wi-fi-7-chipset-solutions/ )
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09:00 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163818
09:00 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
09:53 TR News; http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/slow-news-easter/
09:53 TR Bot; Links 17/04/2022: Slow News Easter | Techrights
09:54 TR News; Links 17/04/2022: Slow News Easter | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/slow-news-easter/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/slow-news-easter/
09:54 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163819
09:54 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:54 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163820
09:54 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
10:01 TR News; "Turns out that for a few use cases, the Steam Deck might actually be the best handheld out there to play Nintendo games. A Steam Deck owner on Twitter has shown how the Deck controls are ideally suited to support the Metroid Prime Trilogy." https://boilingsteam.com/metroid-prime-trilogy-a-great-fit-for-the-steam-deck/
10:01 TR Bot; Metroid Prime Trilogy: A Great Fit for the Steam Deck - Boiling Steam
10:04 TR News; Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163821
10:04 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
10:06 AltLink_c52c; Update | Cloudflare Domains (April 2022) | https://archive.org/details/crimeflare
10:06 TR Bot; Cloudflare Domains (April 2022) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
10:12 TR News; How and Why David Revoy Moved to Free Software | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/david-revoy-freesw/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/david-revoy-freesw/
10:12 TR Bot; How and Why David Revoy Moved to Free Software | Techrights
10:15 TR News; Double-Masked, Double Purpose (or How to Compel Selfish People and COVIDiots to Respect Social Distance) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/17/social-distance/
10:15 TR Bot; Blog Archive Double-Masked, Double Purpose (or How to Compel Selfish People and COVIDiots to Respect Social Distance)
10:16 Techrights-sec; you can hear the improvement in sound quality now
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10:20 Techrights-sec; will be able to check the sound later today
10:23 TR News; Reuters was printing lies for criminals from the EPO half a decade ago. This is a lie. And not only that; EPO violates the EPC. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-patent-usa-idUSKCN11K2SB
10:23 TR Bot; issues better patents than U.S.: Europe patent boss | Reuters
10:24 TR News; No, they don't give a crap about the European Patent Convention (EPC). They routinely violate it. https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1112360/europct-patent-application-route
10:24 TR Bot; Euro-PCT Patent Application Route - Intellectual Property - UK
10:25 TR News; Borders are guarded better by ensuring neighbours have no incentive to escape. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/bidens-plan-to-end-border-wall-work-draws-appeal-by-arizona
10:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: bloomberglaw.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/bidens-plan-to-end-border-wall-work-draws-appeal-by-arizona https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/bidens-plan-to-end-border-wall-work-draws-appeal-by-arizona
10:25 TR Bot; NO TITLE
10:26 TR News; Prepear is not an apple https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1162272/comparing-apples-with-pears-again
10:26 TR Bot; Comparing Apples With Pears (Again?) - Intellectual Property - UK
10:30 TR News; Charging you even more for legally-invalid patents https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1160516/epo-to-increase-official-fees-from-1-april-2022
10:30 TR Bot; EPO To Increase Official Fees From 1 April 2022 - Intellectual Property - UK
10:31 TR News; Nokia is operating via patent trolls these days; this is what Microsoft turned Nokia into... https://www.worldipreview.com/news/continental-loses-automotive-patent-pool-suit-22142
10:31 TR Bot; Continental loses automotive patent pool suit
10:32 TR News; "South Korea-based Samsung and Irish company Solas OLED have agreed to settle a patent suit, less than half a year after Samsung lost challenges against the finding that it owes approximately $77 million." https://www.worldipreview.com/news/samsung-and-solas-seek-to-settle-patent-dispute-22164
10:32 TR Bot; Samsung and Solas seek to settle patent dispute
10:33 TR News; USPTO stops fast-track patent examinations from Rospatent <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://www.worldipreview.com/news/uspto-stops-fast-track-patent-examinations-from-rospatent-22176"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
10:33 TR Bot; USPTO stops fast-track patent examinations from Rospatent
10:35 TR News; They've managed to put patent litigation ahead of actual innovation as the priority https://www.mondaq.com/france/patent/1171148/what-are-patent-prosecution-highway-pph-programmes-and-should-you-be-using-them
10:35 TR Bot; What Are Patent Prosecution Highway (PPH) Programmes And Should You Be Using Them? - Intellectual Property - France
10:36 TR News; Watch out, Rocky Linux? https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1172372/rocky-opposition-knocked-out-by-concept-of-trademark-neutralisation
10:36 TR Bot; Rocky Opposition Knocked Out By Concept Of Trademark Neutralisation - Intellectual Property - European Union
10:37 TR News; "The US Patent and Trademark Office has announced that it will no longer grant requests from Russias IP office to participate in the Global Patent Prosecution Highway." https://www.worldipreview.com/news/uspto-stops-fast-track-patent-examinations-from-rospatent-22176
↺ https://www.worldipreview.com/news/uspto-stops-fast-track-patent-examinations-from-rospatent-22176
10:55 TR News; The mole at the USPTO (Iancu) did its damage https://www.iam-media.com/in-house-operations/unified-patents-ipr-filings-shrink-case-outcomes-show-impact-npes see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Andrei_Iancu
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10:55 TR Bot; Unified Patents' IPR filings shrink, but case outcomes show impact on NPEs - IAM
10:55 TR Bot; Andrei Iancu - Techrights
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10:57 TR News; My common Gemini crawler pitfalls gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/04/16.1
10:58 TR News; 2022-04-16: 10,000 years in real life and in popular culture gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/
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11:46 XRevan86; https://t.me/smirusnews/7578 More 1984 give-aways from Dimitry Silin.
11:46 TR Bot; Telegram: Contact @smirusnews
11:57 TR News; Team UPC and Corrupt EPO Management Have Fast Become a Severe Crisis of Legitimacy for the European Union | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/crisis-of-legitimacy-eu-upc-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/crisis-of-legitimacy-eu-upc-epo/
11:57 TR Bot; Team UPC and Corrupt EPO Management Have Fast Become a Severe Crisis of Legitimacy for the European Union | Techrights
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12:11 TR News; [Meme] Nobody Hates the EPOs Patent Examination More Than Team UPC (Shoehorning Fake Patents, Then Fake Courts) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-npc/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-npc/
12:11 TR Bot; [Meme] Nobody Hates the EPOs Patent Examination More Than Team UPC (Shoehorning Fake Patents, Then Fake Courts) | Techrights
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12:25 TR News; [Meme] The Boy (or Bristows) Who Cried Wolf | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/bristows-cried-wolf/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/bristows-cried-wolf/
12:25 TR Bot; [Meme] The Boy (or Bristows) Who Cried Wolf | Techrights
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12:44 bnchs; the trash bin icon doesn't have transparency
12:44 bnchs; nice arch
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13:31 schestowitz-TR; bnchs: is that an important feature?
13:32 bnchs; arch linux's new adwaita iconset update
13:32 bnchs; has many important differences
13:32 bnchs; 1) broken icons
13:32 bnchs; 2) different icon styles
13:32 bnchs; 3) no transparency on some icons
13:32 bnchs; 1) some icons are broken*
13:40 activelow; https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
13:40 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html
13:40 TR Bot; mjg59 | The Freedom Phone is not great at privacy
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13:57 TR News; Top Apache projects in 2021: From Superset, to NuttX https://thestack.technology/top-apache-projects-in-2021-from-superset-to-nuttx/ Source: thestack
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13:57 TR Bot; Top Apache projects in 2021: From Superset, to NuttX
13:58 TR News; False dichotomy: "low-wage workers" and "careers in tech" https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/04/n26638094/the-hg-foundation-backs-merit-america-to-help-low-wage-workers-access-careers-in-tech many tech jos are low paid
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13:58 TR Bot; Hg Foundation backs Merit America to help low-wage workers access careers in tech - Benzinga
13:59 TR News; As if they didn't know what voters the GOP targets... https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2022/04/14/vermont-leaders-respond-attacks-lgbtq-vermonters/7315954001/
13:59 TR Bot; Vermont leaders respond to attacks on LGBTQ+ Vermonters
14:00 TR News; Old tactics: pretend that even atheists are religious nuts. For expressing technical opposition to a technical issue. https://venturebeat.com/2012/12/07/president-of-the-free-software-foundation-unleashes-old-testament-wrath-on-ubuntu-linux-spyware/
14:00 TR Bot; of the Free Software Foundation unleashes Old Testament wrath on Ubuntu Linux "spyware" | VentureBeat
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14:02 TR News; "To be honest, I hadn't even considered the environmental consequences of my reading medium - perhaps when my kids are a bit older (they've just turned 5) they'll also help me think harder about such things!" gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2019-10-30-Ebooks-in-Gopherspace-(reply-to-dgold).txt
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14:24 MinceR; brokenness is what you should expect of arch
14:35 psydroid2; arch is the embodiment of brokenness
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14:46 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22040451
14:46 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/urpggdk02br81.jpg created on 2022-04-04 19:16:56.815926
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15:22 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22041641
15:22 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/jpf2pcahcyr81.jpg created on 2022-04-16 16:45:23.193915
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16:39 TR News; "I agree that most of the technical content hosted on Gemini is about Gemini itself, and usually repeating the same points, because I guess there are bits from Gemini that are not ideal and there is a lot of conversation around them." gemini://capsule.usebox.net/gemlog/20220417-re-stepping-away-from-gemini.gmi
16:40 TR News; "Here's are just a whole bunch of RSS feeds, loosly grouped, that I think are worth subscribing to over on the Web." gemini://gemini.rlamacraft.uk/misc/rssFeeds.gmi
16:41 TR News; Pine Phone Pro gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202204170145.gmi "it fits in your pocket and has touchscreen input. It also just so happens to do phone calls, SMS, and connect to mobile data."
16:42 TR News; "Of course, that's why I left... everything just stays the same, and there is more to life than staying in one place." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202204170026.gmi
16:51 *psydruid is in regular contact with kwiecien
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16:52 MinceR; https://64.media.tumblr.com/6136e6d635b6ca3389b09ae2604689f3/80252e98c3c3180d-e4/s1280x1920/2ec5113505c0e1bdf5d22e94320bb58c621c7aed.jpg
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17:09 TR News; [Meme] Godly Oversight at the EPO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-godly-oversight-at-the-epo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-godly-oversight-at-the-epo/
17:09 TR Bot; [Meme] Godly Oversight at the EPO | Techrights
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17:41 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22041565
17:41 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://rimgo.pussthecat.org/oTur1fO.jpeg created on 2022-04-15 23:28:53.601253
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19:04 DaemonFC; So my chargeback against Batteries Plus went through and they credited my account and it's in the investigation phase.
19:04 DaemonFC; MinceR, He threatened me, you know? Threatened me with the police over my negative reviews and chargeback.
19:05 DaemonFC; Figures that my only chargeback ever was against a battery store.
19:05 DaemonFC; If they ever did show up I'll have to contain myself. "Hey officer, you know what you call a bad review about a car battery? An assault on battery. Thanks, I'll be here all night! badumtish!".
19:06 TR News; LXQt 1.1 Desktop Environment Is Here Based on the Qt 5.15 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163822
19:06 TR Bot; LXQt 1.1 Desktop Environment Is Here Based on the Qt 5.15 | Tux Machines
19:07 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163823
19:07 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:08 MinceR; "Are you threatening me, master Jedi?"
19:09 DaemonFC; Then they'll say, "That's not funny!" and I'll say, "No, but I know what is funny.". They'll say "What's that?" and I'll say "Mitch McConnell in a dress! BAZINGA!".
19:10 MinceR; lol
19:14 TR News; How We Cover Patents and How Techrights Reduces Technical Debt (Gemini and Single-File Web Pages) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/covering-patents-2022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/17/covering-patents-2022/
19:14 TR Bot; How We Cover Patents and How Techrights Reduces Technical Debt (Gemini and Single-File Web Pages) | Techrights
19:15 DaemonFC; Anyway, most people who make me angry get sorry they did because I have a habit of putting them in situations where they can either accept a loss or try to fight me and lose more.
19:15 DaemonFC; The guy screwed me on a Buick key and remote that didn't work right, and so I went to the dealer, got it worked on, had them document that the stuff the guy at Batteries Plus sold me was no good, and then filed a dispute that I shouldn't have to pay for shoddy merchandise that didn't start my car and there's no way to go back and work with the merchant because he's a nut that called me at my home and threatened trespassing charges when I said
19:15 DaemonFC; "Do you want to make this work or give me a refund?".
19:15 DaemonFC; LOWER COMMUNICATIONS BARRIER!!!!! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINAAAAATE!
19:15 MinceR; :)
19:18 DaemonFC; Cyberman: "Your technology is inelegant!" Dalek: "Daaaaaleks have no concept of elegaaance!" Cyberman: "How many Daleks are you?" Dalek: "Four!" Cyberman: "You would destroy 6 billion Cybermen with only four Daleks" Dalek: "We would destroy 6 billion Cybermen with only one Daleeeek! You are superiooor in only one regard!" Cyberman: "What is that?" Dalek: "You....are....better...at...dyiiiiiing!"
19:19 DaemonFC; I don't know why I like Doctor Who. It's so bad it's good, I guess.
19:20 DaemonFC; Instead of bullshitting thousands of pages of nonsensical explanations for why things in Star Trek work, Doctor Who doesn't even bother explaining it, or if he does, he dumbs it down to "a big ball of timey wimey stuff".
19:21 MinceR; :)
19:21 DaemonFC; It makes it really easy to do anything you want to in any episode. That and the Sonic Screwdriver that seems to always be an appropriate way to get things to work.
19:21 DaemonFC; John had a toy Sonic Screwdriver somewhere. I hate to think of what he was using that for.
19:22 DaemonFC; MinceR, If I had that I make a video pointing it at my engine and having it light up and make noise while I went "I know what's wrong with it. Ain't got no gas in it!".
19:22 DaemonFC; I think it would be quite funny, me out there in my bathrobe and stuff.
19:23 DaemonFC; Humor can be anything you want to throw together that's absurd, and then becomes funny.
19:24 DaemonFC; It's like pornography or the perfect turd. I can't tell you what it is, but I'll know it when I see it.
19:25 DaemonFC; MinceR, I get a lot of my comedy for the day from the news.
19:25 DaemonFC; People who think Florida Man is funny should watch out for the Waukegan Man stories.
19:25 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/05/14/man-set-his-car-on-fire-in-beach-park-because-he-was-upset-it-ran-out-of-gas-police-say/
19:25 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/05/14/man-set-his-car-on-fire-in-beach-park-because-he-was-upset-it-ran-out-of-gas-police-say/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/05/14/man-set-his-car-on-fire-in-beach-park-because-he-was-upset-it-ran-out-of-gas-police-say/
19:25 TR Bot; Man set his car on fire in Beach Park because he was upset it ran out of gas, police say
19:26 DaemonFC; "A Waukegan man has been charged after police say he set his car on fire in Beach Park on Saturday because he was upset that it had just ran out of gas and that it would frequently broke down.
19:26 DaemonFC; Leonard H. Peters, Jr., 21, of the 2100 block of Williamsburg Drive in Waukegan, was charged with one count of arson, a Class 2 felony."
19:26 DaemonFC; MinceR, It would frequently broke down.
19:26 DaemonFC; Well I'd get mad at it and set it on fire if it used the English language like that.
19:26 DaemonFC; NOT GUILTY!
19:27 DaemonFC; The upside is one less alleged car on the road.
19:27 MinceR; "You stand before this church accused of heresy and witchcraft. How do you plead?"
19:27 DaemonFC; This used car mess is so bad that even KIAs are selling for a fortune.
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19:28 MinceR; they could sell them for more if they made them even worse
19:29 DaemonFC; A 2015 Kia Soul+, three years older than the 2018 I bought new, is now $17,590, which was the MSRP of the 2018.
19:29 MinceR; just look at the german car industry
19:29 DaemonFC; And this one has 75,140 miles on it, so it's shot.
19:29 DaemonFC; Because it's a Kia.
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19:30 DaemonFC; MinceR, It looks like this car lot got more crooked since I bought a new KIA there.
19:30 DaemonFC; That's amazing. "Not only that it can happen, but that you don't know how it's possible. (Carter to Thor, SG-1)
19:31 DaemonFC; They won't just give you the actual price, MinceR There's $2,500 extra on top of the price because of "dealer installed equipment".
19:31 DaemonFC; What is the dealer installing in a 7 year old KIA Soul that's $2,500?
19:31 DaemonFC; And didn't the original owner already pay for that?
19:31 MinceR; a new engine
19:32 MinceR; because the one that exploded isn't working so well anymore
19:33 DaemonFC; MinceR, Well, KIA *tried* the software update on the fragments of exploded car.
19:33 DaemonFC; For some reason, it just didn't take.
19:33 MinceR; :>
19:33 MinceR; maybe it's because the shrapnels of the ECU could no longer communicate with each other
19:34 DaemonFC; MinceR, They reprogrammed my Powertrain Control Module on the Buick yesterday.
19:34 DaemonFC; It actually did do SOMETHING.
19:34 DaemonFC; It's getting a reading from the TPMS sensors that it understands again.
19:34 MinceR; :>
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19:34 DaemonFC; I think I'm going to hold off fixing this with new sensors for a while and see if the old sensors keep working.
19:34 MinceR; strange, my car managed to communicate with the TPMS sensors without needing to do that
19:35 DaemonFC; The fucking things use Bluetooth, MinceR
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19:35 MinceR; :)
19:35 DaemonFC; Which for some reason the computer, but not the radio, understand.
19:35 MinceR; presumably it's simpler than trying to connect a cable to something that rotates while driving
19:35 MinceR; once for each wheel
19:36 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9rUREflwDI
19:36 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=C9rUREflwDI
19:36 TR Bot; invidious.osi.kr | Terminator Genisys (2015) - T-800 is Back Scene (3/10) | Movieclips - Invidious
19:36 DaemonFC; MinceR, The 2003 has TPMS, but it's a different kind of TPMS that just works, you know.
19:36 DaemonFC; The Buick has sensors that run on a watch battery that is sealed.
19:36 DaemonFC; They are superior in one way.
19:36 DaemonFC; I know I know.
19:36 MinceR; they are better at dying?
19:36 DaemonFC; THEY ARE BETTER AT DYING!
19:37 DaemonFC; No, actually.
19:37 DaemonFC; They can monitor individual tire pressure precisely.
19:37 DaemonFC; TPMS in the older cars can only tell using the wheel speed sensor that they aren't all at the same pressure.
19:40 DaemonFC; So whenever it goes off it means one or more tires is lower than the rest, not that they're at any given pressure level or 20% low from that correct level.
19:40 DaemonFC; The Buick goes "ding ding this exact tire is at that precise pressure right now.
19:40 DaemonFC; bbiab
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19:46 MinceR; https://files.catbox.moe/9g7udn.png
19:46 TR Bot; connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/9g7udn.png )
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20:25 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/trippy
20:25 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Trippy
20:33 TR News; Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Pony - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-pony/ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW
20:33 TR Bot; Free Tutorials to Learn Pony - LinuxLinks
20:38 TR News; Solaris Might Be Free If You Want It | Hackaday http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163642#comment-33373
20:38 TR Bot; Announcing the First Oracle Solaris 11.4 CBE | Tux Machines
20:41 TR News; With unconditional help from coup-installed EPO presidents Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos Team UPC is pushing to replace legitimate, common courts with a bunch of kangaroo courts like the EPO's internal tribunals; due to the demise if not death of journalism theres nobody left to challenge them http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-vacuum/
20:41 TR Bot; The Collapse of the Media Has Left a Vacuum for Fake News From Team UPC (Scheming to Bury Laws and Constitutions) | Techrights
20:42 TR News; Bristows over the years (the above people have since then stepped down) http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/bristows-cried-wolf/
20:42 TR Bot; [Meme] The Boy (or Bristows) Who Cried Wolf | Techrights
20:42 TR News; The EPO and the EU can become casualties of the cross-Atlantic patent litigation cartel, fronted by Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/upc-npc/
20:42 TR Bot; [Meme] Nobody Hates the EPOs Patent Examination More Than Team UPC (Shoehorning Fake Patents, Then Fake Courts) | Techrights
20:42 TR News; European software patents? Or proper patents one can successfully enforce in a court? (A real court, not UPC unicorns and kangaroos) http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/crisis-of-legitimacy-eu-upc-epo/
20:42 TR Bot; Team UPC and Corrupt EPO Management Have Fast Become a Severe Crisis of Legitimacy for the European Union | Techrights
20:43 TR News; This talk was uploaded a long time ago. FSF staff welcomed the talented illustrator and artist David Revoy, who created the beautiful designs commemorating our coral anniversary..." http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/david-revoy-freesw/
20:43 TR Bot; How and Why David Revoy Moved to Free Software | Techrights
20:44 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163824
20:44 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
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20:46 DaemonFC; My check gas cap light came on.
20:47 DaemonFC; I got out and checked and it was still there, so I tightened it and it went back off.
20:47 DaemonFC; But I got on Amazon and ordered a new gas cap for $8 out of "Warehouse Deals". You save $3 because the top of the cap has a small scratch on it. Like, who cares?
20:47 DaemonFC; AutoZone wanted over $20 for the same gas cap.
20:50 DaemonFC; Sometimes the seals go bad on the gas cap. If your gas cap light is on, you'll fail emissions and it's a really dumb reason to fail.
20:50 DaemonFC; Like, the seals are bad or it's not tightened correctly and they'll fail your emissions and say "bad gas cap".
20:50 DaemonFC; This car isn't due for emissions for another two years though.
20:51 DaemonFC; Still, the gas cap is such a cheap part that why would you want fuel vapors escaping the system and lowering your gas mileage?
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 322.53
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21:58 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/limitless
21:58 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Limitless
22:12 TR News; Seems like a security bug rather than feature https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/ubuntu-22-04-remote-desktop-control/
22:12 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: ubuntuhandbook.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/ubuntu-22-04-remote-desktop-control/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/ubuntu-22-04-remote-desktop-control/
22:12 TR Bot; Ubuntu 22.04 Finally Supports Remote Desktop Control via MS RDP Protocol | UbuntuHandbook
22:17 TR News; Windows killer https://www.androidpolice.com/install-chrome-os-flex-chromebook-explainer/
22:17 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: androidpolice.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidpolice.com/install-chrome-os-flex-chromebook-explainer/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.androidpolice.com/install-chrome-os-flex-chromebook-explainer/
22:17 TR Bot; Chrome OS Flex installation and hands-on: Not for the faint of heart
22:18 AltLink_c52c; New Issue | Re: Re: Due invoice | https://framagit.org/dCF/deCloudflare/-/issues/30
22:18 TR Bot; Re: Re: Due invoice (#30) Issues Crimeflare / deCloudflare GitLab
22:19 TR News; This Week in Linux 194: LXQt, SUSEs Next-Gen OS, MX Linux, OpenSSH, OpenRazer, Bitwig, StarLabs and more Linux news! - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-194/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
22:19 TR Bot; LXQt, SUSE's Next-Gen OS, MX Linux, OpenSSH, OpenRazer, Bitwig, StarLabs and more Linux news! - TuxDigital
22:22 TR News; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33376
22:22 TR Bot; Razer and Lambda Team Up to Unveil a Linux Laptop for Deep Learning | Tux Machines
22:22 TR News; A headline at Hot Hardware calls it a sexy Linux laptop with deep learning chops being pitched as the worlds most powerful laptop for machine learning workloads.
22:22 TR News; A headline at Hot Hardware calls it a sexy Linux laptop with deep learning chops being pitched as the worlds most powerful laptop for machine learning workloads. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163670#comment-33376
22:23 *matey (~matey@98gxkynfhs628.irc) has joined #techrights
22:23 SomeH4x0r; hi
22:24 TR News; Caoln McNamara: "I thought I'd try some of the built-in GTK CSS support. So here we animate the widget to reduce its left and right margins inwards a little and its opacity to 50% before returning to its original properties." http://caolanm.blogspot.com/
22:24 TR Bot; Caoln McNamara
22:24 matey; hi
22:24 SomeH4x0r; I think another person might come here soon, they are interested in free software it seems
22:24 matey; schestowitz-TR there, in his own words, today (I know you are offline) <- i dont know what youre referring to specifically
22:25 matey; they are interested in free software it seems <- that could be useful in the long run, since free software is nearly dead right now
22:25 matey; "no! its only MOSTLY dead!"-- miracle max
22:25 SomeH4x0r; you can come to UplinkIRC (irc.uplinkcorp.net/+6000 #uplink) temporarily, they are barto there
22:25 matey; ok i blame uplinkirc
22:25 TR News; MUTTER_DEBUG_USE_KMS_MODIFIERS=0 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2359
22:25 TR Bot; kms/device: Disable modifiers when !DRM_CAP_ADDFB2_MODIFIERS (!2359) Merge requests GNOME / mutter GitLab
22:26 SomeH4x0r; Uplink is not free software. It is a videogame which has a built-in IRC client though, and people appear there using it.
22:26 matey; good to know
22:26 SomeH4x0r; I talk to them and share my opinions too
22:27 TR News; A few words of relevance to Techrights and its strategy, future direction, and technical work http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/covering-patents-2022/
22:27 TR Bot; How We Cover Patents and How Techrights Reduces Technical Debt (Gemini and Single-File Web Pages) | Techrights
22:27 TR News; The EPO will never be the same; for 12 years it has been governed by gangsters, mobsters or banksters from France http://techrights.org/2022/04/17/meme-godly-oversight-at-the-epo/
22:27 TR Bot; [Meme] Godly Oversight at the EPO | Techrights
22:28 SomeH4x0r; I told them about this network as well as XMPP, they said they will read the website
22:28 SomeH4x0r; I'm about to gtg, lmk if you will be connecting there
22:29 SomeH4x0r; oh, it is available on port 6667 with no TLS
22:29 matey; im not much of an irc user really
22:30 matey; its not something i normally do
22:31 matey; /topic but there's a nuance
22:32 TR News; "But what is the main thing in the Geminispace? Im always repeating that the answer is people. Gemini protocol gathered people who were attracted by its idea." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-17-Re-stepping-away-from-gemini.gmi
22:33 SomeH4x0r; oh, they said they are going to go soon as well, maybe no need to then
22:33 matey; bnchs like emacs psychotherapist <- emacs psychotherapist doesnt work on people who develop emacs on github
22:34 matey; /me wouldnt be surprised if emacs psychotherapist (which was called "eliza" when it was at mit decades ago) was on github now
22:34 matey; if you coded in basic for long enough you had a copy of eliza
22:35 TR News; "Unifont 14.0.03 is now available." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10161
22:35 TR Bot; Unifont - News: Unifont 14.0.03 Released [Savannah]
22:35 matey; the sound blaster pro included an eliza-like program called dr. sbaitso
22:35 TR News; GNU Mailutils - News: Version 3.15 http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=10160
22:35 TR Bot; GNU Mailutils - News: Version 3.15 [Savannah]
22:35 matey; sb for sound blaster, maybe ai for ai, ts for maybe text to speech (dr spaitso included speech audio output) and o? who knows
22:36 matey; presumably the emacs version is free software at least
22:37 matey; i could make my text editor chat to me like that, but id have to do it like this:
22:37 matey; chatprogram hi, chat program CTRL-T
22:37 TR News; "We had a wonderful week in the world of Linux Releases with the releases of EndeavourOS 22.1, SparkyLinux 2022.04, Bluestar Linux 5.17.2, and Manjaro 21.2.6." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/04/linux-weekly-roundup-178.html
22:37 TR Bot; Linux Weekly Roundup #178
22:37 matey; unless you know i wanted to change the code of my text editor which of course is also an option
22:38 TR News; "In this video, I discuss five incredibly useful command line utilities: uname, hostname, basename, dirname and logname. All of these programs are part of the GNU core utilities that are installed on every GNU/Linux distribution." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zT37cVNR1w
22:38 TR Bot; https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=2zT37cVNR1w
22:38 TR Bot; reports incompatible or unsupported protocol version. ( status 0 @ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=2zT37cVNR1w )
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22:41 matey; so this is the day when a giant bunny flew to heaven and chocolate eggs rained down, as told by the prophet tay zonday
22:42 matey; and this is celebrated with chocolate and extra church, unless youre protestant
22:42 matey; or (gasp) not a bunny worshiper
22:44 matey; "but the parents were wicked, and stole all the eggs and hid them away from the children, who delighted in finding them and thwarting the parents evil plans"
22:45 matey; and this of course celebrates the destruction of the temple, when god hid most of it from the jewish people, but only mel gibson is brave enough to talk about it
22:45 matey; mel gibson: "dont look at me!"
22:45 matey; dont be so modest, mel-- without you, how would anyone know the truth
22:47 matey; mel gibson: "it was aliens!"
22:48 MinceR; is mel gibson playing giorgio tsoukalos now?
22:48 matey; i assume thats a joke but since this is mel gibson we are talking about, it could also be a real question and it wouldnt be your fault
22:49 MinceR; https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg
22:49 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: keepcalms.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/i-m-not-saying-it-was-aliens-but-it-was-aliens.jpg
22:49 matey; /me gets "theres a nuance" tattooed on his upper arm
22:49 MinceR; :>
22:49 matey; "what it mean?"
22:49 matey; "well theres this old russian joke..."
22:50 MinceR; does it come with a picture of Petka and Basilivanych?
22:50 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163825
22:50 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:50 matey; thats on the other arm :)
22:50 MinceR; :)
22:50 matey; though i suppose o could get that on my butt
22:51 matey; just get a tattoo of Basilivanych with his dick out and a speech bubble that says "theres a nuance"
22:51 matey; aimed at the general...
22:51 matey; um
22:52 matey; /me chuckles
22:52 *XRevan86 learnt something as well
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22:52 XRevan86; Petka is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Isaev
22:52 TR Bot; Pyotr Isaev - Wikipedia
22:53 XRevan86; Basilivanych is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Chapayev
22:53 TR Bot; Vasily Chapayev - Wikipedia
22:53 MinceR; oh, i vaguely remember hearing jokes with Chapayev in them
22:53 XRevan86; It's one of those.
22:54 XRevan86; I didn't connect the dots.
22:55 XRevan86; I guess a better adaptation would have "comrade Chapaev" or something.
22:57 matey; tor browser is a great way to wean yourself off the web, ESPECIALLY if youre using ff anyway (as it has most of the same bullshit as ff, minus a bit)
22:58 matey; because suddenly a lot of websites are like "fuck you, lift your skirt and show me your ip"
22:58 matey; and im like "no, youre not a real website"
22:58 matey; so already im using the web less.
22:58 MinceR; "also, let us mine ethereum on your computer"
22:59 matey; i have ethereum mine, and you have ethereum mine...
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.58
23:00 XRevan86; I also don't like "dick" as a word, but spent 0 time looking for a good synonym.
23:00 matey; there was an episode of dudley do-right where snidely asked dudley "have you ever thought about what would happen to me, if anything should happen to you?"
23:00 matey; "well, no..."
23:00 matey; "i thought not, sign here"
23:01 SomeH4x0r; they left by now btw
23:01 SomeH4x0r; the person on UplinkIRC
23:01 matey; and snidely gets dudley to sign over the rights to his newly found "mine" in the event of an untimely accident "which is exactly what snidely had in mind"
23:01 matey; theyll come here if they want to
23:02 matey; the mine of course, was actually just a tunnel to the chief inspectors office where the payroll was kept in sacks
23:02 matey; but dudley didnt realise that
23:03 matey; so the chief inspector orders do-right to find out who is stealing the payroll, snidely thinks hes killed do-right and goes to collect the bags
23:03 matey; dudley shows up and nabs him and says "SO *YOU* are the payroll thief!"
23:03 matey; he gets vacation time for catching snidely and decides to go dig for more gold... several yards away from some giant bank
23:06 matey; "then ill push you into this river" "but i can swim!" "with a stick of dynamite in your mouth?"
23:06 matey; "it was true, dudley COULDNT swim with a stick of dynamite in his mouth!"
23:06 matey; "but his HORSE COULD!"
23:08 matey; the best part was when he swam to shore and doused the dynamite in a bucket of water
23:09 matey; because there obviously wasnt enough of that in the river
23:09 matey; this may have inspired d-bus somehow
23:15 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19011832
23:15 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/sqpo2fyvusa21.jpg created on 2019-01-18 10:58:46.811451
23:16 matey; bnchs wtf is this bot acting on itself <- https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps
23:16 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps )
23:16 -AltLink_97e/#techrights- CloudFlare: kavin.rocks | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://invidious.kavin.rocks/watch?v=dIpsvF50yps
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23:46 MinceR; https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/cog
23:46 TR Bot; Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Cog
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