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00:00 TR News; Mozilla "valuing privacy" should actually be considered a joke http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/
00:00 TR Bot; Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights
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00:02 TR News; Rust is not about security; Rust itself is a security risk https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/09/15/const-eval-safety-rule-revision.html
00:02 TR Bot; Const Eval (Un)Safety Rules | Rust Blog
00:02 TR News; More complexity, more bugs, more threats to security
00:03 TR News; Mozilla is heavy and bloated already, as the Web itself has come to require very heavy and bloated browsers that act more like VMs, not rendering engines https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/09/15/a-different-perspective/
00:03 TR Bot; A different perspective Mozilla Performance
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00:04 TR News; ...there's no way to "fix" the Web; it needs to be abandoned and we need to start over
00:05 TR News; Mozilla and privacy = LOL http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/
00:05 TR Bot; Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy | Techrights
00:05 TR News; Mozilla makes software that connects you, the user, and loads of spying ("advertising") parties
00:06 mixling; i don't know, linux-2.4, even this seems slightly overloaded already, at that time linux had grown rather fat already
00:07 mixling; and, ACPI, meh... i always hated this
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00:07 mixling; problem, earlier kernels, aren't known to support: USB
00:11 mixling; i can live with USB1.X speeds, and some PATA IDE at 16MiB/s
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; many things won't connect
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; what's it all for?
00:13 schestowitz[TR]; usb = 90s
00:13 mixling; usb = linux-2.4, and linux-2.4 was rather fat already
00:14 schestowitz[TR]; usb is also fat
00:14 mixling; whatever it's for
00:14 mixling; usb1.x wasn't as bas as later ones
00:14 mixling; *bad
00:15 mixling; the german-language wikipedia documents the linux version history with some details
00:15 mixling; including: year, lines-of-code(!!!), binary size, important features
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; i'm not evenm sure you can access the full protocl/docs without signing NDA
00:16 schestowitz[TR]; and it's patented
00:16 mixling; usb1.x? it's documented at opencores.org, and too some intel spec sheets are available, and too linux kernel implements it
00:16 mixling; opencores.org hasn't got usb2 btw...
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; we have usb 4.x soon
00:17 schestowitz[TR]; usb 1.0 patents will have expired by now
00:17 mixling; scheiss
00:17 mixling; ethernet 100Mbps is good enough, for a very long time ahead
00:18 highest_cubist_thrills; this is why we need free hardware
00:18 DaemonFC; USB 2 patents too probably, or soon.
00:18 mixling; usb1.x, 10/100Mbps ethernet, see opencores.org, what's available and what isn't
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; some very iold hardware can be gratis-free
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; people will tell you
00:18 schestowitz[TR]; "it's here, you can just take it away"
00:19 mixling; however, linux-2.4 already, was too fat, it exploded already at that time
00:19 mixling; linux 2.0 was much better, already got SMP, no USB :(
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; not gratis
00:19 highest_cubist_thrills; 5 freedom hardware
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00:20 highest_cubist_thrills; freedom to use, study, share, modify (and remove) freely
00:20 mixling; https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_(Kernel)#Versionsgeschichte_bis_Version_2.6
00:20 TR Bot; Linux (Kernel) Wikipedia
00:21 mixling; linux-2.0) 700.000LoC, 2.4) 3.000.000LoC 2.6) 8.000.000LoC
00:22 XRevan86; mixling: Consider excluding drivers from the count.
00:23 mixling; nowadays, we're at >30.000.000LoC
00:23 mixling; plus hundreds of Megs of firmware
00:24 TR News; Maybe it's not sexist, but certainly seems borderline pedo https://www.davidrevoy.com/article926/pleroma-tan
00:24 TR Bot; Pleroma-tan - David Revoy
00:24 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/15/today_s_howtos.4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/15/today_s_howtos.4.gmi
00:24 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
00:25 DaemonFC; The rail strike was avoided at the last minute and Biden is celebrating.
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; so it means they got what they want
00:25 DaemonFC; All it means is that the country's economy doesn't collapse immediately instead of longer term.
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; unions work
00:25 mixling; linux-2.4 and linux-5.x are, almost on par with _relevant_ features and hardware support
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; we need more unions
00:25 schestowitz[TR]; take back control
00:26 DaemonFC; Yeah, they can threaten the country with economic collapse every year.
00:26 DaemonFC; That'll help.
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; good
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; at least they get better pay
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00:26 schestowitz[TR]; all the capital in the USA fell into offshore accounts
00:26 DaemonFC; Which means higher shipping costs, which means more inflation.
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; of men who fly dodgy planes
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; see USSR
00:26 schestowitz[TR]; its capital ended up in "oligarchs'" accounts
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; the US does not use the same term/'word
00:27 XRevan86; mixling: "linux-2.4 and linux-5.x are, almost on par with _relevant_ features and hardware support" <- Don't forget to add "to my very specific needs".
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; but it's the same thing
00:27 XRevan86; mixling: Your statements look way too universal when they really aren't.
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: that should mean greedy pigs at the top accepting lower profit margins
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; maybe even corprorate losses
00:27 schestowitz[TR]; they moght - gasp -- need to pull back money from Caymen, Bermuda, and Ireland
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; *might * Cayman
00:28 mixling; XRevan86: 99% of what's loaded into Linux kernel is useless shit
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; maybe Microsoft should be bailed out using Gates' moneyh
00:28 schestowitz[TR]; in Cayman
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; not using TAXPAYERS' molney
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; tax-paying citizens who were already robbed by Microsoft
00:29 XRevan86; mixling: Most people use just N% of the kernel code, but all of them use a different sample of that code.
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; it's actually worse
00:29 schestowitz[TR]; they buy back their own shares
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; and let the other rich lazy-arse people (no job) grab the capital
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; at the expense of everyone else
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; to prop up these fictional valued
00:30 schestowitz[TR]; *values
00:31 TR News; Kubernetes 1.25: Two Features for Apps Rollouts Graduate to Stable https://kubernetes.io/blog/2022/09/15/app-rollout-features-reach-stable/
00:31 TR Bot; Kubernetes 1.25: Two Features for Apps Rollouts Graduate to Stable | Kubernetes
00:31 mixling; ok, this is the reasoning:
00:31 XRevan86; mixling: The rock inside my laptop from which I type this message is Intel Ivy Bridge, so do I need all the AMD or Qualcomm or MediaTek stuff in Linux? No. Nor do I need Intel Sandy Bridge support nor Intel Kady Lake or something.
00:31 mixling; 1) there is no way forward anymore, beyond gcc47 toolchain, and i am not willing to nor interested in update kernel beyond v5.10 anymore
00:32 XRevan86; ^ nobody cares
00:32 mixling; there isn't any reasonable upgrade-path with "free software" anymore
00:32 mixling; 2) the alternative apporach, given the horrible situation nowadays, is a roll-back, downgrade
00:32 mixling; with tcc-toolchain, for the sake of it
00:32 mixling; and the most relevant target is the linux-2.4 era
00:33 XRevan86; ^ dysfunctional pile of trash
00:33 schestowitz[TR]; by your standards, everything is tainted
00:33 mixling; however, that's still relevant effort and work to do
00:33 mixling; and i consider linux-2.4 too fat already
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; "[Note: I am no longer working on TCC. Check the mailing list to get up to date information.]
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; "
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; https://bellard.org/tcc/
00:34 XRevan86; Effort to make something that would work on less hardware than ReactOS.
00:34 TR Bot; TCC : Tiny C Compiler
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; "Copyright (c) 2001-2018 Fabrice Bellard
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; using unmaintained software?
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; way to go
00:34 mixling; i think tcc-toolchain is in better shape than any of the GCC versions currently
00:34 schestowitz[TR]; https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2022-08/index.html
00:34 TR Bot; tinycc-devel (date)
00:34 XRevan86; schestowitz: I've already given him examples of tiny C compilers that are actively developed, but because no one's even attempted to build any version of Linux with them, activelow disregards them.
00:35 mixling; XRevan86: tcc contains more than a C-compiler, it's a complete toolchain including binutils, assembler
00:35 XRevan86; But realistically those "alternatives" are only viable when compared to TCC, and that's not a good standard.
00:35 schestowitz[TR]; "There are 76936 lines (including headers). 1950947 lines (67.2 MBytes) are compiled because the same headers are included in many files. TinyCC is about 9 times faster than GCC."
00:35 XRevan86; mixling: That's useless.
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; "
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; FAST! tcc generates x86 code"
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; x86
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; just activelow's cup of tea
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; with PSP and ME
00:36 schestowitz[TR]; "USA!!"
00:36 mixling; tcc too supports ARM
00:36 mixling; and yes, i am not happy with any of this
00:37 mixling; it's all closed-source malice made in USA, or UK with ARM
00:37 mixling; that's why, rolling-back to linux v2.4???
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; how to compile it?
00:39 schestowitz[TR]; old gcc?
00:41 mixling; the relevant GCC versions are, unmaintained
00:41 mixling; not sure why XRevan86 complains about TCC instead
00:42 mixling; linux-2.4 requires year2038 patching for 32bit targets
00:43 XRevan86; mixling: I could complain about GCC 4.7 having a terrible code analyser (warning generator) compared to contemporary Clang and to modern GCC, but at least it's a competent compiler that builds optimised/performant code.
00:44 mixling; cannot complain about warnings emitted with gcc-4.7, for C-code it seems to suffice, i am not interested in C++ brain cancer
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00:44 mixling; alltogether, the entire GNU-toolchain and GNU-buildsystem suck
00:45 mixling; i want to get rid of those with a roll-back to linux-2.4
00:45 mixling; mes-libc/toybox-userspace/linux-2.4/tcc-toolchain
00:45 TR News; "Trivial promotion from VALVE, just rename enums and types." https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=f5b46a643f17000f57e3caf9d11d1d46fe318923
00:45 TR Bot; mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)
00:46 mixling; a bunch of suckless components and things, which don't require GNU autotools/automake
00:46 TR News; Department of Commerce Gives Industry What it asked for Regarding the Entity List - ConsortiumInfo.orgConsortiumInfo.org https://www.consortiuminfo.org/china/department-of-commerce-gives-industry-what-it-asked-for-regarding-the-entity-list/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.consortiuminfo.org/china/department-of-commerce-gives-industry-what-it-asked-for-regarding-the-entity-
00:46 TR Bot; of Commerce Gives Industry What it asked for Regarding the Entity List - ConsortiumInfo.orgConsortiumInfo.org
00:47 mixling; ok, just decided...
00:47 mixling; i got the gcc47 c-only profile frozen/archived
00:48 TR News; "NVIDIA helped lead the creation of the Vulkan SC 1.0 API and is now shipping production drivers on its NVIDIA DRIVE and NVIDIA Jetson platforms." Debian GNU/Linux https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/using-vulkan-sc-for-safety-critical-graphics-and-real-time-gpu-processing/
00:48 TR Bot; Using Vulkan SC for Safety-Critical Graphics and Real-time GPU Processing | NVIDIA Technical Blog
00:48 mixling; and will simply try, and see how far i'll get with the tcc-toolchain/linux-2.4 profile, as a nice-to-have
00:48 mixling; i know with absolute certainty: no more upgrades/updates beyond kernel v5.10/gcc47 etc
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; this work is pointless
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; you ue defective old kernel
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; with flaws
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; and for what?
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; security? no
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; freedom? hardly
00:49 schestowitz[TR]; you nee dto define your aims
00:49 mixling; the most recent hardware which linux-6.x will support, that's all UEFI/Plutin shitware
00:50 mixling; schestowitz[TR]: with the kernel-version here i removed all UEFI entirely
00:50 schestowitz[TR]; you can just download a very old distro
00:50 schestowitz[TR]; with linux 2.4
00:50 mixling; the criteria are all defined and hammered into stone
00:50 schestowitz[TR]; you can find old isos online
00:50 mixling; schestowitz[TR]: no, i can't
00:51 schestowitz[TR]; just don't plug them to the Net
00:51 mixling; because i do use a most-recent portage tree synched from upstream
00:51 mixling; and too, SSL/TLS, require attention... to navigate some IRC/WWW/Mail
00:52 mixling; i'll integrate bearssl/libtls-bearssl
00:52 schestowitz[TR]; I tried to build bearssl on debian 10 and failed
00:52 schestowitz[TR]; depedency hell
00:53 schestowitz[TR]; I wanted tocompile gmni
00:53 mixling; tested bearssel, with my irc-client, no problems... works nicely
00:54 mixling; anyway, i don't want to waste any more time
00:54 TR News; Simon Ser: Status update, September 2022 https://emersion.fr/blog/2022/status-update-45/
00:54 TR Bot; Status update, September 2022 emersion
00:55 TR News; (NEW): Peropesis 1.7: odyssey continues http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/15/Peropesis_1_7_odyssey_continues.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/15/Peropesis_1_7_odyssey_continues.gmi
00:55 TR Bot; Tux Machines Peropesis 1.7: odyssey continues
00:56 TR News; Auto Contrast on Librem 5 smartphones - Purism https://puri.sm/posts/auto-contrast-on-librem-5-smartphones/ Source: Purism | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//puri.sm/posts/auto-contrast-on-librem-5-smartphones/
00:56 TR Bot; Auto Contrast on Librem 5 smartphones Purism
00:56 psydruid; https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation
00:56 psydruid; malware in your hardware
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 93.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 155.75
00:59 mixling; i mean, patching linux-2.4 for year2038, rebuilding an entire distro on top of this kernel, with tcc-toolchain, that's alot of work
00:59 mixling; regular maintenance requirement will be lower
01:00 mixling; no kernel updates, no toolchain updates, no browser updates... none of this
01:01 mixling; in any case, with the web-browser i got, i couldn't at least online job portals, online banking, gafam crap, newspapers etc.
01:02 mixling; i don't miss any of this, it's the social-surrounding which dictates some rubbish on linkedin defined the labor market requirements for Telco and Engineering and Science
01:02 *mixling pukes
01:14 starstreak; apparently firefox doesn't work so well when you have something using 100% cpu and 10GB ram
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01:18 techuser; hi
01:19 bnchs; hi h4x0r
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01:24 bnchs; techuser: how are you
01:25 techuser; I'm accepted into university, waiting until education starts there
01:26 techuser; unless I already mentioned it here and you know
01:26 TR News; 12 minutes in, forcing footballers who aren't English to have one minute of silence for Liz II https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/inside-city-episode-407-63798677
01:26 TR Bot; Inside City 407: Victory in Seville and a visit from David Silva!
01:26 schestowitz[TR]; bnchs: 0/
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: good news, which discipline?
01:27 techuser; computer science
01:27 DaemonFC; Every bank or credit card statement has at least one page on how to avoid paying interest or how to balance your checkbook that's the same on every statement.
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; cool!
01:27 techuser; "programmer"
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; I did the same
01:27 schestowitz[TR]; aged 18
01:28 DaemonFC; I have to send out about 80-90 statements to immigration.
01:28 techuser; my parents think programming is profitable. I don't care much about future now though
01:28 DaemonFC; So I'm reprinting them back to PDF in Firefox without that page.
01:28 techuser; I will never be happy no matter what I do anyway, so why bother
01:28 DaemonFC; My God, how tedious.
01:28 TR News; CISA Adds Six Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/09/15/cisa-adds-six-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
01:28 TR Bot; CISA Adds Six Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
01:29 DaemonFC; But that should save about $20 in printing costs.
01:29 TR News; I was forced to eat... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqsaPn2yz7A Marcel Gagne from Linux Journal...
01:29 TR Bot; https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=fqsaPn2yz7A
01:29 TR Bot; ( status 502 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=fqsaPn2yz7A )
01:30 techuser; things just keep getting worse. Idk what to do irl, and computers are getting ruined by capitalism.
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; <techuser> my parents think programming is profitable. I don't care much about future now though
01:30 schestowitz[TR]; profitable is not important
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; what's important if whether you will enjoy it
01:31 techuser; I think I will enjoy nothing anymore
01:31 techuser; so probably doesn't matter
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; if you want help with stuff, let us know
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; maybe we can help
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01:31 mixling; techuser: why wouldn't you, enyoy nothing anymore?
01:31 techuser; I don't understand "help". Things are bad. I maybe can get brainwashed to not see it.
01:31 schestowitz[TR]; (with degree-related stuff)
01:32 techuser; but is it "help"?
01:32 techuser; oh, thought you mean with mental health
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; that too
01:32 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, we're here...
01:32 TR News; (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Security_Leftovers.gmi
01:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Security Leftovers
01:32 techuser; mixling: because I enjoyed computers when I was a child and I didn't bother about real life much. Then it turned out computers are shit. I had no fallbacks.
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; sometimes you need to focus on something like a project
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; and then that helps you forget about things that bother you
01:33 schestowitz[TR]; because you are too occupied
01:34 mixling; techuser: ever programmed?
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01:34 schestowitz[TR]; real life isn't necessarily greta either
01:34 schestowitz[TR]; ReaLife(TM)
01:35 schestowitz[TR]; showing offo to arseholes
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01:36 TR News; That's just outsourcing. And AWS is PROPRIETARY software. https://ubuntu.com//blog/why-enterprises-choose-ubuntu-on-aws
01:36 TR Bot; Enterprises Choose Canonical Ubuntu on AWS | Ubuntu
01:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I have a hell of a project.
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01:36 DaemonFC; The hell of being consigned to menial labor. Reprinting these fucking bank statements where the bank sent 8 pages to tell you 4 pages worth of stuff.
01:36 DaemonFC; It costs 19 cents a page in black and white, so....
01:36 bnchs; oh yeah i forgot
01:36 bnchs; queen died
01:37 DaemonFC; I could have had paper statements on, but then mail theft. :P
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01:38 TR News; Microsoft, Amazon, GAFAM... Canonical devoted to outsourcing to the US. While registered in London. Do you want that?? https://ubuntu.com/blog/author/cerolia-k
01:38 TR Bot; Kim | Ubuntu
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; hi cuddlybear66
01:38 techuser; she is likely not here, just bouncer restart
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; bnchs: I think COVID played a rolwe
01:38 schestowitz[TR]; but the media won't say that
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; we're meant to think it's old and not important
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/15/british-hospitals-stats/
01:39 TR Bot; Blog Archive Without Masks and Social Distancing COVID-19 Puts About 8 Times As Many People in British Hospitals
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; many people still died
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; some had their health conditions worsened
01:39 schestowitz[TR]; a million patients with COVID-19
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; many left with scars and neural/nerve problems
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; and from what I hear, some left with side effect from the vaccines too
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; but now it's all about the impending ffuneral
01:40 schestowitz[TR]; nobody talks about COVID-19 here anymore
01:42 schestowitz[TR]; "We learned to live it" = we came to stop caring about deaths of vulnerable people
01:42 mixling; everyone will die
01:43 mixling; the queen died at age 96
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; some sooner
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; you smoke a lot
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; she could live past 100
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; seems she and her husband deteriorated faster
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; with covid-19 infections
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; I coulod make a point better
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; by finding photos before and after
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; like 10 before, 10 after
01:43 schestowitz[TR]; but it would take a lot of time
01:45 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights-news> drew devault caught COVID-19 https://drewdevault.com/2022/09/15/Status-update-September-2022.html
01:45 TR Bot; Status update, September 2022
01:46 TR News; ICBM: staff isn't happy, key workers are fleeing!! We need to do something!! https://www.itpro.co.uk/business-strategy/flexible-working/369063/red-hat-adopts-a-remote-first-policy-with-offices-turned-neighbourhood http://techrights.org/2022/09/15/losing-critical-engineers/
01:46 TR Bot; Red Hat adopts a remote-first policy, with offices turned into "neighbourhoods" | IT PRO
01:46 TR Bot; [Meme] The Big News is That Big Blue Has Driven Away Tons of Essential Engineers and Managers of Red Hat | Techrights
01:47 TR News; ICBM wanking itself over "fostering diversity and inclusion" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/purpose-driven-organization-6-tips-fostering-diversity-and-inclusion actually, it's hardly championing that at all!!! http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/
01:47 TR Bot; The purpose-driven organization: 6 tips for fostering diversity and inclusion
01:47 TR Bot; IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights
01:48 TR News; Stack/Unstuck: Frameworks And Fundamentals https://www.redhat.com/en/compiler-podcast/compiler-frameworks-and-fundamentals
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01:54 TR News; iTWire - Mexico more concerned about Assange than Australia, says brother https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/mexico-more-concerned-about-assange-than-australia,-says-brother.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/mexico-more-concerned-about-assange-than-australia,-says-brother.html
01:54 TR Bot; - Mexico more concerned about Assange than Australia, says brother
01:56 TR News; GNOME's Libadwaita 1.2 Released with Exciting Improvements https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/15/Libadwaita_1_2.shtml
01:56 TR Bot; Tux Machines Libadwaita 1.2 (UPDATED)
01:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 150.43
02:05 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D355.jpg
02:05 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D703.jpg
02:12 TR News; She never looked the same after COVID-19 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qD6Bj40aiM0
02:12 TR Bot; Charles Jokes About the Queen's Age... - Invidious
02:13 AdmFubar; https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/trojanized-versions-of-putty-utility-being-used-to-spread-backdoor/
02:13 TR Bot; Trojanized versions of PuTTY utility being used to spread backdoor | Ars Technica
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; probably Dan Goodin
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; trying to darken the name of SSH
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; along with the other Microsoft booster
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; "ook, you can download malware!!!'
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; hence, ssh bad
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; also, putty is for crap OSes
02:15 schestowitz[TR]; most people use that on WIndows
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; way to associate ssh with "backdoor"?
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; they keep saying "Linux" along with "backdoor"
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; turns out it's false
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; they talk about malware
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; once the malware is installed
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; it can take remote instructions
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; but that's now what back doors are
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; the media needs to die
02:16 schestowitz[TR]; Ars technically Pedo needs to die
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; it harbours child rapists, literally
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; conde nast owns it
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; and uses it for dark PR campaigns
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; Dan Goodin was sued for libel
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; he keeps lying and exaggerating
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; clickbaiting with lies
02:17 schestowitz[TR]; better headline
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; There is a fake putty out there
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; so make sure you download from the official place
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; there. simple.
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; also, putty is not good
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; it enourages people to put private keys on NSA_backdoored platforms like Windows
02:18 schestowitz[TR]; the back door is WINDOWS
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; I bet it's Goodin
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; without even clicking
02:19 *schestowitz[TR] opens URL
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; YES, it's HIM
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; interjecting "North Korean"
02:19 schestowitz[TR]; political BS from Conde Nast
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; to rile up for tensions
02:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; and clickbait image
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; totally unrelated tyo the story
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; 0s, 1s... SKELETON
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; they need to go out of business
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; it's not journalism
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; it's what Lessig called clickbait
02:20 schestowitz[TR]; and it spreads falsehoods
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02:21 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/06/07/microsoft-peter-is-a-pedophile/
02:21 TR Bot; Microsoft Peter is a Pedophile, Arrested Without Bail | Techrights
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02:21 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/microsoft-peter-convicted/
02:21 TR Bot; Microsoft Peter Convicted for Pedophilia (and Still Defending Pedophilia) | Techrights
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; they did not even remove his articles
02:21 schestowitz[TR]; that were planted there by Microsoft
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/07/30/microsoft-peter-lives-on/
02:22 TR Bot; Even After Microsoft Lost Its PR Asset at Ars Technica (Arrested for Sexually Abusing Kids) Ars Technica Persists With Microsoft Advocacy (in News Form) | Techrights
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2015/08/13/lenovo-scapegoating/
02:22 TR Bot; Microsoft Peter Writes About Malicious Microsoft Antifeatures, Tries to Blame Lenovo and Succeeds | Techrights
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; "| Microsoft Peter, who spread all these lies to the point where the Open Source section in Ars Technica was literally nothing but Microsoft lies. "
02:22 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2019/10/16/proprietary-microsoft/
02:22 TR Bot; No, Microsoft is Not an Open Source Company But a Lying Company | Techrights
02:23 TR News; Gimme Knobs gemini://mederle.de/b/16-gimme-knobs.gmi
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02:24 TR News; "The government is shutting down the corona tracking app, I guess because it never really worked as intended and keeping the servers up must be very costly. I only got a notification once and it wasnt even very accurate (it stated way too much exposure time during a week I spent mostly at home)." gemini://nelforzo.smol.pub/1663285450
02:26 TR News; She dies months later, not one month later, so she won't count as COVID-19 casualty https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60998927
02:26 TR Bot; Queen reveals Covid left her 'very tired and exhausted' - BBC News
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02:41 highest_cubist_thrills; hes nonetheless right that it is a bitch to bootstrap gcc
02:41 highest_cubist_thrills; he doesnt know how to save us. but the problem still exists
02:41 highest_cubist_thrills; you need a giant fucking blob
02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; to create entirely free software
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02:42 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 15, 2022
02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; and i mean
02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; the blob is fucking huge
02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; its ridiculous
02:42 TR News; GNU Turns 39 Later This Month and Its Still Going! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/15/gnu-39/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/15/gnu-39/
02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; thats what he was trying to fix with all this
02:42 TR Bot; GNU Turns 39 Later This Month and Its Still Going! | Techrights
02:42 highest_cubist_thrills; for the glory of white europeans i guess
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02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; the ones worth saving :)
02:43 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: ^ for you
02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; no, fuck germany
02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; truman should have aimed there
02:43 schestowitz[TR]; no, the meme
02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but then he would be a monster
02:43 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, ha
02:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know that one
02:47 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-09-15.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-09-15.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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02:50 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: do you like the concept though?
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; I added the original gnu message just now
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; and cleaned up some typos
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; atm gnu is the best shot we have
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; for computing in freedom
02:50 schestowitz[TR]; unless you make something else
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; we are doing OK as long as it is possible to avoid the "big vendors"
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02:51 schestowitz[TR]; most of gnu is not captive
02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; most of gnu is not captive <- well, bullshit
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; ok, convince me
02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; atm gnu is the best shot we have <- i give it 7 years
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; define captive first
02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> ok, convince me <- no need
02:51 schestowitz[TR]; github mirror is not captive
02:51 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont have to do anything but wait
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; also, I reckon github will die in 7 years
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; perish
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; due to no money
02:52 highest_cubist_thrills; github mirror is not captive <- obviously
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; and no Microsoft
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; Microsoft will have to shut down many things
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; or downsize a lot
02:52 highest_cubist_thrills; also, I reckon github will die in 7 years <- that would be nice
02:52 highest_cubist_thrills; but gnu will die before github
02:52 schestowitz[TR]; https://web.archive.org/web/20201202020700/https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board
02:52 TR Bot; Staff and Board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
02:53 schestowitz[TR]; 14 staff
02:53 highest_cubist_thrills; highest_cubist_thrills: do you like the concept though? <- what concept
02:53 highest_cubist_thrills; nazios? in the beginning it seemed like it wasnt another templeos
02:53 schestowitz[TR]; 11 staff 2 years later:
02:53 schestowitz[TR]; https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board
02:53 TR Bot; Staff and Board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
02:53 highest_cubist_thrills; but the sole author is insane
02:54 schestowitz[TR]; clinically
02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; 11 staff 2 years later <- it about quality not quantity
02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; the quality is shit
02:54 schestowitz[TR]; who did they lose that you want back?
02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; everything.
02:54 schestowitz[TR]; John Sullivan?
02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; credibiliy. integrity. success.
02:54 schestowitz[TR]; Dana Morgenstein?
02:54 schestowitz[TR]; Donald Robertson?
02:54 highest_cubist_thrills; youre still counting.
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; John Hsieh?
02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i told you its not about quantity
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; Matt Lavallee?
02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre useless.
02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; useless
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; Kat Walsh in the Board?
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; She was part of the cou
02:55 DaemonFC; I had to report Mandy's credit card stolen last year because someone in the Philippines tried charging things to the FedEx account I had to create to give to their "Statistics Authority" to get his birth certificate.
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; good riddance
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; *coup
02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; probably yeah
02:55 schestowitz[TR]; passive part anyway
02:55 DaemonFC; Nice of them to just steal the card. And that was someone in their government that did that.
02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; youre looking at WHO left
02:55 DaemonFC; It was frozen, so nothing went through
02:55 highest_cubist_thrills; and insisting thats what they lost
02:56 highest_cubist_thrills; but thats not what they lost.
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; like the eme shows
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; they are under attack
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; toejam BS
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; then GPL FUD
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; then buying github
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; then IBM blackmail machine
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; etc etc.
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; they are a TARGET
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ has at a go ast them for ages
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; as he did at Torvalds
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; trying to have a go at people above him
02:56 highest_cubist_thrills; but torvalds sold out
02:56 schestowitz[TR]; to make himself seem important
02:57 schestowitz[TR]; then asking mates to do a wikipedia page (ad) about him
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; mjg attacked linux
02:57 schestowitz[TR]; toervalds didn't sell out
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; but then linux ate itself
02:57 schestowitz[TR]; torvalds was always like this
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; but then linux #techrights : 09/16/22 01:57 <schestowitz[TR]> <-= oh yes he did
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; fuck torvalds
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, gkh is worse
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; that follows
02:57 schestowitz[TR]; that's why LF 'hired' him
02:57 schestowitz[TR]; from SUSE
02:57 highest_cubist_thrills; of course they want to replace him with wors
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; he was the eprfect candidate
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; OOXML
02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but torvalds still sold out
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; hyper-V
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; all that Microsoft shit
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; from Novell
02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah, gkh is the next phrase of the coup
02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but linux is occupied territory
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; linus is Liz III
02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; and torvalds does nothing
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; ghk is Charles III
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; and his ugly brother is Sacha Levin
02:58 highest_cubist_thrills; lol
02:58 schestowitz[TR]; from Epst/.. I ena, from Microsoft
02:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 192.00
02:59 DaemonFC; My head hurts.
02:59 schestowitz[TR]; but can you SWEAT?
02:59 DaemonFC; I think that means I've been working on this too long.
02:59 highest_cubist_thrills; you insist there are good guys and bad guys
02:59 DaemonFC; I managed to delete about 150 pages that I don't think Immigration will care whether I print for them or not.
02:59 DaemonFC; That saves about $30.
03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; your model cant account for anything if there are no good guys left
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: it's offtopic here anyway
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; it's not about immigration
03:00 highest_cubist_thrills; rofl
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; and now your personal life
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; or youyr spouse's
03:00 DaemonFC; I hate working with documents.
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; without asking for consent toi share
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; rianne got 100% in her exam last week
03:00 schestowitz[TR]; last friday we put in all the papers
03:00 DaemonFC; What? That his government is a bunch of criminals who will steal your credit card information?
03:01 DaemonFC; Best that he becomes an American citizen so he can get a US passport and be done with those idiots.
03:01 DaemonFC; One thing at a time though.
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; by the time he qualifies Trump might be president again
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; and never leave the seat again
03:02 highest_cubist_thrills; doubt it
03:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], The president can't revoke Green Cards that were already issued.
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; USA is the land of opportunityu
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; to do anything
03:02 DaemonFC; That's part of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
03:02 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 118670 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42606 Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 12 days ago
03:02 schestowitz[TR]; if he runs again, both your parents will vote for him
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; they also made excuses for michael jackson
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; so I'm thinking
03:03 DaemonFC; USCIS can do that, but only in accordance with the law. They have to prove you did something wrong related to getting a Green Card.
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; that 5th avenue brag
03:03 DaemonFC; And you're equally exposed even if you become a US citizen.
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; he can even attempt a coup
03:03 schestowitz[TR]; and then become president again
03:03 DaemonFC; Because you still wouldn't be one by birth.
03:03 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 38 GB TotalOut: 10 GB
03:03 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], COVID-19 mostly kills old people.
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; yes
03:04 DaemonFC; Have you seen many people younger than about 50 going to Trump rallies?
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; i put charts in several posts in my site
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; atm they remove voting rights from many blacks
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; oir try to
03:04 DaemonFC; 50 is basically the low end of the age group for the "foaming at the mouth Trump club".
03:04 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; they also gerrymander some more
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; they don't need to win
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; just to cheat and make it seem legit
03:04 schestowitz[TR]; like in 2000
03:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], You can't gerrymander the electoral college.
03:05 DaemonFC; States get electoral votes based on the Census, and the Census was pretty much fucked even in red states.
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; biden's popularity rate is very low
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; Dems need to dump him
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; and go awith anotrher person
03:05 DaemonFC; They believe that some of the worst undercounts were actually in red states in the south.
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; he was always shit
03:05 schestowitz[TR]; even when he ran againnnst trump
03:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I can see that happening.
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; their debates was a national embarrassment... i think only one debate existed
03:06 schestowitz[TR]; two senile,, one cup
03:06 DaemonFC; There WILL be a primary in 2024, but contested conventions against an incumbent president are rare.
03:06 DaemonFC; It's definitely happened.
03:06 DaemonFC; It happened to Jimmy Carter.
03:06 DaemonFC; That was about the most fucking retarded thing ever.
03:07 DaemonFC; Ted Kennedy. LOL
03:07 DaemonFC; The guy who drowned his pregnant girlfriend came along and decided to run against Carter, Carter barely got out of his own primary and then lost to Reagan.
03:08 DaemonFC; If there's a contested convention against an incumbent president or state governor, that means that the party is in schism and the other side is likely to win the general election.
03:08 DaemonFC; We should REALLY hope that doesn't happen.
03:09 DaemonFC; It happened in Illinois with Governor Rauner. Jeanne Ives ran against him, they split the vote almost down the middle, and it exposed how weak Rauner was going into the general election.
03:09 DaemonFC; All of Ives's supporters were furious that she didn't win, and did NOT support Bruce Rauner.
03:09 DaemonFC; Had the party held together and decided to hold their noses and support Rauner, Pritzker might not be in office right now.
03:10 DaemonFC; Contested primaries are always bad for an incumbent, even if they end up winning them.
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03:10 DaemonFC; It's just a pain in the ass that they don't need, then there's a percentage of the other candidate's voters who are mad and won't listen to you and won't vote for you.
03:11 DaemonFC; I think Hillary Clinton would have done slightly better had Bernie Sanders not ran against her.
03:11 DaemonFC; That wouldn't have made her BETTER, but I don't think Sanders brought out many otherwise disaffected voters.
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03:12 DaemonFC; If anything, he created a pile of Democrats who said "Let Trump win. That'll sure show the Democrats!".
03:12 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu isnt the best shot, because it only gets worse
03:12 DaemonFC; And he got in, did enormous damage to the country, and we're stuck with Joe Biden, which has mostly the same political positions of Hillary Clinton.
03:12 highest_cubist_thrills; it never gets better, but it disintegrates and people do nothing
03:12 highest_cubist_thrills; the gnu maintainers-- do nothing
03:12 DaemonFC; Refusing to vote for Clinton did not change the Democrats at all.
03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont fight, dont defend
03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; they watch while corporations take it away
03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre idiots
03:13 DaemonFC; The Democrats would rather lose than allow Sanders to win.
03:13 DaemonFC; They were fine with making it the four years of Hell for their voters.
03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; what happened to the linux kernel-- we wont get it back
03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; it happens to gnu-- they do nothing
03:13 DaemonFC; It gives them leverage to come back and say it's Biden or nothing.
03:13 highest_cubist_thrills; its happening now-- you do nothing
03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu has 7 years left
03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; it will increasingly become a laugh to call it free in any context
03:14 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I'm not a Trump supporter. Not by a long shot.
03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; it is, will be, controlled entirely by ibm and microsoft
03:14 DaemonFC; Everyone thinks I might be if they listen to me, but I can't stand Trump.
03:14 highest_cubist_thrills; the gnu project is exploitation of labour
03:15 DaemonFC; I think they ought to put him on trial for treason and then it's cigarette and blindfold time.
03:15 DaemonFC; That's what I think of him.
03:15 DaemonFC; I'm also not thrilled about the far-left.
03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its not controlled by the authors, its not controlled by activists
03:15 DaemonFC; But they're not actually really running much of anything.
03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its controlled by corporations and developed nearly for free
03:15 DaemonFC; "Corporate Woke"
03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; its fraud
03:15 DaemonFC; mjg59_ approved wokeness.
03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; it will become more obviously so
03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; not better-- only worse
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; free sofware foundation had worse perils before
03:15 highest_cubist_thrills; never better-- only worse
03:15 schestowitz[TR]; like 2006, novell
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; like 2006, novell <- youre a goddamned fool
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; they still existed in 2006
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; they have nothing
03:16 DaemonFC; I can't really call myself a Republican, not with these candidates.
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont exist anymore
03:16 DaemonFC; I'd like to, but it's not the 1970s.
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; "ive had worse!"-- the black knight
03:16 DaemonFC; So I really can't.
03:16 schestowitz[TR]; https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/display_990/42888848/2007_05_EO%2F04-2888848_990_200609
↺ https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/display_990/42888848/2007_05_EO%2F04-2888848_990_200609
03:16 TR Bot; FREE SOFTWARE FOUNDATION INC - Form 990 for period ending Sep 2006 - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica
03:16 schestowitz[TR]; fsf 2006
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; again, you resort to meaningless metrics
03:16 highest_cubist_thrills; to avoid reality
03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; the money doesnt fucking matter
03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; they can be propped up by ibm
03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; its not a bloody sign of health
03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; less money, more money
03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; youre ignoring whats going on
03:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], I doubt there will be any serious legislative action on Immigration for at least 10 years.
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; "RMS LAPTOP"
03:17 DaemonFC; Maybe more.
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; in the IRS filing
03:17 DaemonFC; The parties are too close.
03:17 highest_cubist_thrills; a very big deal for pageviews
03:17 schestowitz[TR]; even "SHELVING"
03:18 schestowitz[TR]; they publish an office inventory
03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; omg, shelves
03:18 DaemonFC; Trump told the Democrats he'd sign an amnesty bill if they'd agree to border security.
03:18 DaemonFC; And the Democrats walked away.
03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; i wonder if they have anything to say about it
03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; /me holds the mic up to the shelves
03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; no comment.
03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; weird
03:18 DaemonFC; They left millions of Immigrants who would have had a Green Card right now standing there with their dick in their hand because the Democrats don't want border security.
03:18 highest_cubist_thrills; but what would they tell us, if they werent afraid of speaking out?
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; revenue 832k
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; blah blah blah
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; 2010: 1.1 million
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the treasurer is at the helm now
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure he can keep them in the black
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; it wont mean a damned thing
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; 2020: 1.1 miillion
03:19 schestowitz[TR]; AFTER the coup
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but youll cite it anyway
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; again, this is meaningless
03:19 highest_cubist_thrills; it means fuck-all
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; even less
03:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure theyu could double their members if thats all that mattered
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; thats their mission
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; have members
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; sort of like the purpose of converting to christianity
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; 2020 salaries and wages $787,321
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; is to convert people to christianity
03:20 schestowitz[TR]; more than 9n 2019
03:20 highest_cubist_thrills; you dont have a point
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; you might claim to, but you dont
03:21 schestowitz[TR]; pineapple fund helped a lot in 2019
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; oh yeah
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; the mysterious pineapple fund
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; very interesting
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; i doubt we ever find out what the fuck
03:21 schestowitz[TR]; an extra million
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; but the treasurer is at the helm :)
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; does he know? i dont know
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; he might not even know
03:21 highest_cubist_thrills; would i be surprised if he does know? no.
03:22 highest_cubist_thrills; will finding out save them now? no.
03:22 highest_cubist_thrills; would it be interesting to know? im sure it would
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; Sales of assets $21,460
03:22 highest_cubist_thrills; do i think theres a chance that million isnt malevolent?
03:22 highest_cubist_thrills; theres always a chance.
03:22 schestowitz[TR]; revenue of FSF steady for over a decade
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; always over a million
03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> Sales of assets $21,460 <- your approach to this is becoming almost herr doktor like in nature
03:23 schestowitz[TR]; with that odd "huge contribution" prior to the coup
03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; boring and tedious and absolutely without any point whatsoever
03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; with that odd "huge contribution" prior to the coup <- yes, that is interesting.
03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i agree with that
03:23 highest_cubist_thrills; it COULD be a coincidence, my gut tells me its not
03:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but you know gut feelings prove nothing
03:24 highest_cubist_thrills; it would be great to know because its probably an important piece of free software history
03:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but it wont fix anything
03:24 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe it would be a lesson for future efforts
03:25 AdmFubar; https://www.alternet.org/2022/09/electricity-prices-bogus-free-markets/
03:25 TR Bot; electricity prices should not be left to bogus 'free markets' - Alternet.org
03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; and that makes it worth pursuing
03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; but i doubt we ever find out what it was, unless maybe knauth discloses
03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; which im sure he cant
03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; because IF he even knows, a condition is to not disclose, etc
03:25 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont think hes a whistleblowing type
03:26 highest_cubist_thrills; pocock complained of the fsfe being anti-whistleblower in 2018 or 19
03:26 highest_cubist_thrills; in 2021 or 2022, under occupation, the fsf enacted an anti-whistleblower policy for the first time
03:26 highest_cubist_thrills; never a sign of progress
03:27 highest_cubist_thrills; its a very anti-progressive move
03:27 highest_cubist_thrills; they can justify it however they want, they cant do shit about the broader context
03:27 highest_cubist_thrills; this is never a progressive move
03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; but even if there are bad signs outside of gnu
03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; there are no good signs within gnu, only bad
03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; no good signs
03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; so its been for years
03:28 highest_cubist_thrills; there wont be any good signs either
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; from here it contines to erode, thats it
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; theyll try to slow it down, theyll try to paint a nice picture
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; the only good news will be marketing, nothing else
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; no deeds
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; gnu stands for nothing
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; fsf stands for nothing
03:29 highest_cubist_thrills; theyre done
03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; take money, receive bacon
03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; sorry, bacon not currently available
03:30 schestowitz[TR]; the conditions are far from optimal
03:30 schestowitz[TR]; as they are under attacks
03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; lol
03:30 schestowitz[TR]; taking that into account
03:30 schestowitz[TR]; lol is not a counterargument
03:30 highest_cubist_thrills; you can be their press secretary
03:31 highest_cubist_thrills; no no no
03:31 highest_cubist_thrills; the conditions are far from optimal
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; the attacks worsened
03:31 highest_cubist_thrills; is not a counterargument
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; and took or embraced new patterns
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; plus, the github thing
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; never mind the coup
03:31 highest_cubist_thrills; yes the attacks evolve
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; which was partly organised to distract from billg, I think
03:31 highest_cubist_thrills; the response does not
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; and then managed by github
03:31 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont even try, roy
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; by people who worked for Microsoft
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; ok, I wion;t try
03:31 schestowitz[TR]; good night
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; you dont have an argument
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; you simply dont agree
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; watch and see
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; it will be like i tell you
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; waity, you said they don\'t try
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; i said they dont try
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont
03:32 schestowitz[TR]; I think you talked so fast I read that as "you don't even try
03:32 highest_cubist_thrills; looking busy isnt trying
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; anyway, to accomplish mopre this defeatism won't help
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; negativism and defeatism are not the same
03:33 highest_cubist_thrills; realism and defeatism arent the same thing
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; you basically sort of abandom
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; and then signal to the rest
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; "well, it's dead"
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; being negative about expectation is RMS
03:33 highest_cubist_thrills; ive been calling the fsf weekend at bernies for YEARS
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; but RMS keeps fighting
03:33 highest_cubist_thrills; are you familiar with the movie?
03:33 schestowitz[TR]; you run to openbsd
03:34 highest_cubist_thrills; but RMS keeps fighting <- silly bugger
03:34 highest_cubist_thrills; no he doesnt
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; he does
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; to the extent feasible
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; given the online trolling and bullies
03:34 highest_cubist_thrills; [H[2~you run to openbsd <- that is not a fair assessment but i dont expect one
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; also, he's 70
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; he's putin's age
03:34 highest_cubist_thrills; to the extent feasibl <- yes! which is not at all
03:34 schestowitz[TR]; you lose energy at that point
03:35 highest_cubist_thrills; one moment, screen adjustment
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03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i moved to openbsd so i could study alternatives
03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i didnt stop paying attention to gnu AT ALL
03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; but i thought
03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; since im a technologist that cares about freedom
03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; and since im saying gnu is dying
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; AdmFubar: fleecing in other markets too atm
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; the supply chain is catchin g up
03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; and drifting to microsoft control
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; price stay high
03:36 highest_cubist_thrills; i should 1. have an os i can use
03:36 schestowitz[TR]; *prices
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; 2. be able to offer people some advice
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; you still use gnu
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; but i continued to watch gnu closely after that
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; so might as wlel pay attentionb
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i use gnu wget
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; what else...
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; im trying to think what else
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; i use a bit of mozilla
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; i use gnu wget because its less github based than curl
03:37 schestowitz[TR]; you probably use some stuff with glib
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; im no fan of curl
03:37 highest_cubist_thrills; they sold out
03:38 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/news/illinois/amazon-closing-canceling-delaying-fulfillment-centers-nationwide/
03:38 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
03:38 highest_cubist_thrills; you probably use some stuff with glib <- maybe. very possibly not
03:38 DaemonFC; Amazon closing a bunch of warehouses in Illinois.
03:38 highest_cubist_thrills; openbsd really doesnt like needing gnu. this is their decision and not mine
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: there is no recession
03:38 schestowitz[TR]; until the fat lady sings
03:38 highest_cubist_thrills; they have been unable to avoid it entirely
03:38 highest_cubist_thrills; shes warming up at least
03:38 highest_cubist_thrills; openbsd forked gnu less
03:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know if they use glib for that-- they probably dont
03:39 highest_cubist_thrills; but they might
03:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its brilliant because gnu less was github-based
03:39 schestowitz[TR]; turning 25 next year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLib
03:39 TR Bot; GLib - Wikipedia
03:39 schestowitz[TR]; gnu will turn 40
03:39 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not whty they forked
03:39 schestowitz[TR]; THEN, there will be "midlife crisis"|
03:39 schestowitz[TR]; for gnu
03:39 highest_cubist_thrills; already there
03:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its meant to be tongue in cheek
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; but the idea that 40 is midlife assumes that software platforms have the same average lifespan as people
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; which of course is nonsense
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; 40 is a HUGE lifespan
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; for any software
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i agree
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; let alone emacs
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i totally agree
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; poor emacs :.
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; gnu emcas is 40 laready
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; :/
03:40 highest_cubist_thrills; emacs should be preserved
03:40 schestowitz[TR]; unless you count the gnu prefix
03:41 DaemonFC; https://kotaku.com/g4tv-layoffs-twitch-x-play-adam-sessler-g4-1849537114
03:41 TR Bot; G4TV Hit With Major Layoffs Less Than A Year After Coming Back
03:41 highest_cubist_thrills; how i dont know
03:41 highest_cubist_thrills; harfbuzz should be forked too
03:41 highest_cubist_thrills; as no project will do without it in the longterm
03:41 schestowitz[TR]; emacs 1976
03:41 highest_cubist_thrills; not even tk
03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; its unacceptable for microsoft to control every gui application in the free software world
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; "The original EMACS was written in 1976 by David A. Moon and Guy L. Steele Jr. as a set of Editor MACroS for the TECO editor.[2][3][4][5][12] It was inspired by the ideas of the TECO-macro editors TECMAC and TMACS.[13]
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; The most popular, and most ported, version of Emacs is GNU Emacs, which was created by Richard Stallman for the GNU Project"
03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; including emacs
03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; stallman inventing emacs is like al gore creating the internet
03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; both had such a hand in it that the actual creators defended
03:42 schestowitz[TR]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs#Church_of_Emacs
03:42 TR Bot; Emacs - Wikipedia
03:42 highest_cubist_thrills; gore, stalman
03:43 highest_cubist_thrills; vint cerf defended gore
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; "The Church of Emacs, formed by Richard Stallman, is a parody religion created for Emacs users.[54] While it refers to vi as the editor of the beast (vi-vi-vi being 6-6-6 in Roman numerals), it does not oppose the use of vi; rather, it calls it proprietary software anathema. ("Using a free version of vi is not a sin but a penance."[55]) The Church of Emacs has its own newsgroup, alt.religion.emacs,[56] that has posts purporting to
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; support this parody religion. Supporters of vi have created an opposing Cult of vi."
03:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i taught someone vi a whie back
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/15/gnu-39/
03:43 TR Bot; GNU Turns 39 Later This Month and Its Still Going! | Techrights
03:43 highest_cubist_thrills; recently they were required to use it somewhere :)
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; "
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; Who Am I?
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; I am Richard Stallman, inventor of the original much-imitated EMACS
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; editor"
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; in 2983
03:43 schestowitz[TR]; 1983
03:44 schestowitz[TR]; "inventor of the original much-imitated EMACS"
03:44 highest_cubist_thrills; the original author of emacs defended stallman too
03:44 schestowitz[TR]; this is patent terminopoly
03:44 schestowitz[TR]; developer?
03:44 highest_cubist_thrills; at least regarding who made emacs
03:44 highest_cubist_thrills; inventor can be a casual term
03:44 highest_cubist_thrills; without deliberately or intentionally using patent terminology for the sake of doing so
03:45 highest_cubist_thrills; inventor isnt a bad word just because bad people use it too
03:45 schestowitz[TR]; he sat at the loo
03:45 highest_cubist_thrills; granted today he would have probably said developer or something
03:45 schestowitz[TR]; and then came a cloud
03:45 schestowitz[TR]; bubble but cloud-shape
03:45 schestowitz[TR]; with a bumb in it
03:45 schestowitz[TR]; *bulb
03:45 schestowitz[TR]; and he invented emacs
03:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i suppose this means he doesnt hate the word inventor as much as you do
03:46 highest_cubist_thrills; or he would probably change that line of text
03:46 highest_cubist_thrills; if they let him :)
03:46 TR News; "If you ever wanted to contribute to a Perl project now is a good time to give it a go!. Here are a few beginner friendly projects that are up-for-grabs." http://blogs.perl.org/users/itcharlie/2022/09/hacktoberfest-2022-is-near.html
03:46 TR Bot; 2022 is near! | itcharlie [blogs.perl.org]
03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; there are only two groups of people left over there
03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; traitors, and sheep
03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; and one hostage, but that does not a group make
03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; perhaps from this a hero will emerge
03:47 highest_cubist_thrills; they wont-- but hey, perhaps perhaps perhaps
03:47 TR News; Delete. Install LibreOffice. https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-problem-with-office-license-error/
03:47 TR Bot; How to Fix "There's a Problem With Your Office License" in Windows - Make Tech Easier
03:48 highest_cubist_thrills; if you join the fsf, please include $1 for hostage handling
03:48 highest_cubist_thrills; sorry, postage and handling
03:48 TR News; Get ready for another GNU anniversary (11 days from now); the Linux Foundation does not want people to know what GNU is and how the GPL works (it actively works to undermine both) http://techrights.org/2022/09/15/gnu-39/
03:48 TR Bot; GNU Turns 39 Later This Month and Its Still Going! | Techrights
03:49 highest_cubist_thrills; they still censor
03:49 highest_cubist_thrills; the whole thing is run by lieplanet, which i think is remarkable
03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; nearly impossible, but there it is
03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure its only like that because of some arrangement we arent privy to
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; gnu is used more than ever before
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; fact.
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; and is thus more important
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; in relative terms and
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; in absolute terms
03:50 schestowitz[TR]; gn
03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; if you say so
03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; corporations use it
03:50 highest_cubist_thrills; thats not a sign of good things to come
03:51 schestowitz[TR]; hence more attacks
03:51 highest_cubist_thrills; it is embraced
03:51 schestowitz[TR]; ok, rss refresh,
03:51 schestowitz[TR]; afk
03:51 DaemonFC; Ground coffee is up 19% in a single year.
03:51 DaemonFC; Eggs 40%
03:52 DaemonFC; Just trying to have coffee and scrambled eggs is getting oppressive.
03:52 highest_cubist_thrills; openbsd is a good alternative to a dumpster fire
03:52 highest_cubist_thrills; it is not a fortress, it is not unstoppable
03:52 highest_cubist_thrills; it is only a step in a reasonable direction, away from this madness
03:53 highest_cubist_thrills; alpine is also a step away, and i suppose thats good for similar reasons
03:53 highest_cubist_thrills; i find it amusing that you cite it not using gnu as a feature, but of course you wont do that for openbsd :)
03:53 highest_cubist_thrills; alpine is a step away from this madness too
03:54 highest_cubist_thrills; albeit a smaller step
03:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i believe the principle authors of alpine dont say much bad about openbsd, on the contrary
03:54 highest_cubist_thrills; my main "gripe" with alpine?
03:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont like the linux kernel. you can easily say thats their not their fault... and i would more or less agree
03:55 highest_cubist_thrills; still, i wanted to get away from linux, even more than i wanted to get away from gnu
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03:55 highest_cubist_thrills; its not a secret that alpine doesnt do that
03:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but if its around long enough i really wouldnt be shocked to see alpine supporting more than one kernel
03:55 highest_cubist_thrills; someday
03:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.11 k/sec., IPFS upstream 162.55 average k/sec., average swarm size 178.66
04:03 highest_cubist_thrills; by the way, the only glib i appear to have installed is gnome glib2, not glibc anywhere
04:03 highest_cubist_thrills; the closest thing i have to glibc (gnu libc) is this:
04:03 highest_cubist_thrills; /usr/local/share/libtool/libltdl/libltdl/lt__glibc.h
04:04 highest_cubist_thrills; /* lt__glibc.h -- support for non glibc environments
04:05 highest_cubist_thrills; every line, of which there are 83, is either blank, a comment, or starts with #
04:05 highest_cubist_thrills; there are defs, as well as
04:05 highest_cubist_thrills; #include <slist.h>
04:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its safe to say theres no glibc here
04:05 highest_cubist_thrills; not that im surprised
04:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think alpine uses it either
04:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i believe she specifically said this
04:07 highest_cubist_thrills; when you use alpine youre doing the same as i am, as far as glibc goes
04:08 highest_cubist_thrills; which is fine, but (as you said yourself) its not gnu
04:08 highest_cubist_thrills; naturally you make it about me and openbsd anyway
04:08 highest_cubist_thrills; dont know why
04:08 highest_cubist_thrills; its just one of your things
04:10 highest_cubist_thrills; youd do well to remember that i left gnu/linux primarily to get away from linux
04:10 highest_cubist_thrills; getting away from gnu was a side effect
04:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i still tell people that hyperbola is a good thing-- but facts and context are optional sometimes?
04:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
04:47 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], Mom was panic buying for the rail strike.
04:47 DaemonFC; I said they'd get it worked out somehow. Last time, Congress just ordered them all back to work.
04:47 DaemonFC; This one never even ended up happening.
04:50 DaemonFC; The whole COVID-19 debacle was mass hysteria.
04:50 DaemonFC; There's never been a shutdown like that in a free country over a germ that was barely even killing anyone (by percentage of the number who caught it).
04:55 highest_cubist_thrills; mber 14, 2022
04:55 highest_cubist_thrills; LibrePlanet 2023: Charting the Course | Call for sessions announced!, Devin Ulibarrilol
04:56 highest_cubist_thrills; who wants to help lieplanet suck the remaining (non-existent) credibility out of the fsf?
04:57 highest_cubist_thrills; im sure theres a riveting talk about flax seeds or llama farming or a group of eskimos running a workshop for coding in rust
04:58 highest_cubist_thrills; followed by the obligatory separate-but-equal talk from stallman a month later, which will also be called lieplanet
04:58 highest_cubist_thrills; where he says nothing because he isnt allowed
04:58 highest_cubist_thrills; help us fight for your freedom!
04:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 161.88 average k/sec., average swarm size 166.60
04:59 highest_cubist_thrills; Next year's LibrePlanet is themed "Charting the Course"
04:59 highest_cubist_thrills; so, iceberg?
04:59 highest_cubist_thrills; "shouldnt we steer away from that?"
05:00 highest_cubist_thrills; "shut up richard! dont make us get the hose!"
05:00 highest_cubist_thrills; "sorry, ill go back to my office"
05:00 highest_cubist_thrills; Happy hacking,
05:00 highest_cubist_thrills; Devin
05:00 highest_cubist_thrills; more like "good luck"
05:01 highest_cubist_thrills; Devin Ulibarri // Outreach & Communications Coordinator
05:02 highest_cubist_thrills; he says "Happy Hacking" but he didnt sign the support letter
05:02 highest_cubist_thrills; i think if youre going to use that line maybe you should support stallman.
05:02 highest_cubist_thrills; not that he owns it, its just a matter of style
05:02 highest_cubist_thrills; lieplanet is a trojan horse
05:04 highest_cubist_thrills; fsf award winner...
05:04 highest_cubist_thrills; media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/sugar-labs-past-present-and-future/
05:04 highest_cubist_thrills; Devin Ulibarri, Walter Bender.
05:06 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/more-migrants-arrive-to-chicago-thursday-night/
05:06 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
05:06 highest_cubist_thrills; heh
05:06 highest_cubist_thrills; libreplanet.org/2018/speakers/
05:06 highest_cubist_thrills; She is the Community Outreach Director for the Open Invention Network, the world's largest patent non-aggression community,
05:06 highest_cubist_thrills; Open Invention Network
05:06 highest_cubist_thrills; She won the O'Reilly Open Source Award for her work with GNU MediaGoblin and OpenHatch.
05:06 DaemonFC; Governor Prickster criticized a mayor of a relatively small suburb who is alarmed that the population of his town has gone up 600 people in 15 days because of the state dumping illegal immigrants that Chicago doesn't want there.
05:10 highest_cubist_thrills; roy will be sympathetic to lieplanet THIS year, only because they say some nice thing about a former contributor.
05:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, theres always a reason
05:11 highest_cubist_thrills; im just saying what it is
05:11 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/illinois-drops-covid-19-testing-requirement-for-unvaccinated-school-child-care-employees/
05:11 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
05:12 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], No COVID tests required for unvaccinated school children and staff this year.
05:12 DaemonFC; They do everything they can now to make it look like the numbers are dropping.
05:12 DaemonFC; The government also stopped paying for tests for the uninsured.
05:13 DaemonFC; mjg59_ mostly agrees with Stallman....about worship of big oppressive governments.
05:13 DaemonFC; Once it found out the vaccines weren't going to end this, 100% of the focus is on making it look safe to go shopping.
05:18 DaemonFC; "
05:18 DaemonFC; The states weekly case rate is currently at 144 per 100,000 residents."
05:18 DaemonFC; Of people who have severe enough cases to go seek medical attention. And most of them will only seek medical attention as a last resort because of the cost.
05:19 DaemonFC; So that figure has to be taken with a pound of salt.
05:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
05:41 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR], It seems Stallman is happy that credit card companies are creating a merchant code to track people who shop at gun stores.
05:42 DaemonFC; It's amazing that no matter how nasty they get with us legal gun owners, the murder rate goes up, up, and away, and nobody they catch has a FOID card.
05:43 DaemonFC; It's almost like murderers don't give a shit what the law says or something. Weird.
05:45 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/news/man-pleads-guilty-to-threatening-merriam-webster-over-definition-of-female/
05:45 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
05:45 DaemonFC; Kicking that off to mjg59_ failed biologist. Gender confused.
05:47 DaemonFC; https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/article%3Fhttps%253A%252F%252Fwgntv.com%252Fnews%252Fillinois-safe-t-act-explained%252F
05:47 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
05:48 DaemonFC; The Burn, Loot, Murder Caucus got their 800 page bill through on "criminal justice reform".
05:48 DaemonFC; I'm sure the system will still figure out how to be 1,000 times more nasty to white people that the cops bring in even though the law says everyone accused of crimes has "new rights".
05:49 DaemonFC; They let the "Now I have a machine gun, ho, ho, ho......" black guy in the Santa Claus hat out and all he had to post was $5,000.
05:49 DaemonFC; How much softer can we be?
05:52 DaemonFC; The Safe-T Act could theoretically result in a person being remanded without bail over misdemeanor assault while the judge lets a sex offender out with no bail.
05:52 DaemonFC; The prosecutor has to demonstrate that an actual identifiable person faces risk if they let you out.
05:52 DaemonFC; So they can do that if you "assaulted" someone (misdemeanor) but not necessarily if someone was busted for child porn.
05:53 DaemonFC; (felony)
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06:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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06:43 DaemonFC; https://i.redd.it/63144437otn91.png
06:43 DaemonFC; Celebrities by jet emissions per year.
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07:37 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, September 15, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
07:37 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
07:37 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
07:37 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
07:37 TR News; Preview
07:37 TR News; (NEW): KDE Announces Plasma Bigscreen for TV UI, Brings 5.26 Beta http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/KDE_Announces_Plasma_Bigscreen_for_TV_UI_Brings_5_26_Beta.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/KDE_Announces_Plasma_Bigscreen_for_TV_UI_Brings_5_26_Beta.gmi
07:37 TR Bot; Tux Machines KDE Announces "Plasma Bigscreen" for TV UI, Brings 5.26 Beta
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07:52 TR News; "What can you expect to find inside? Well, weve taken as many of the very best projects, guides, tutorials, and reviews as we could" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/the-official-raspberry-pi-handbook-2023-your-definitive-guide-to-everything-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
07:52 TR Bot; The Official Raspberry Pi Handbook 2023 - your definitive guide to everything Raspberry Pi - Raspberry Pi
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07:54 TR News; "Speedup bgpctl show rib 10/8 or-longer and show rib 10/8 or-shorter [...]" https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-announce&m=166326231802402&w=2 | Source: Mailing list ARChives
07:54 TR Bot; 'OpenBGPD 7.6 released' - MARC
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07:55 TR News; "be a compliment, not a cudgel" https://blogs.perl.org/users/al_newkirk/2022/08/introducing-venus-a-new-world-for-perl-5.html | Source: Perl
07:55 TR Bot; Venus, a new world for Perl 5 | AWNCORP [blogs.perl.org]
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07:57 TR News; [Old] "The study of neuron morphology requires robust and comprehensive methods to quantify the differences between neurons of different subtypes and animal species. Several software packages have been developed for the analysis of neuron tracing results stored in the standard SWC format" https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.13.443832v1 |
07:57 TR Bot; nGauge: Integrated and extensible neuron morphology analysis in Python | bioRxiv
07:58 TR News; "The techniques used by UNC4034 in this compromise, along with the techniques used in countless intrusions investigated by Mandiant" https://www.mandiant.com/resources/blog/dprk-whatsapp-phishing |
07:58 TR Bot; Time to PuTTY! DPRK Job Opportunity Phishing via WhatsApp | Mandiant
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08:00 TR News; "Jackson residents have faced a water crisis since then that included no running water because of problems at the citys main facility" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boil-notice-lifted-jackson-nearly-7-weeks-water-crisis-mississippi-off-rcna47967 | Source: NBC
08:00 TR Bot; Boil notice lifted for Jackson after nearly 7 weeks of water crisis, Mississippi officials announce
08:01 TR News; "The Slack system was taken offline on Thursday afternoon by Uber after employees received the message from the hacker" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/uber-says-responding-to-cybersecurity-incident-after-report-of-network-breach/94236845 | Source: India Times
08:01 TR Bot; Uber says responding to 'cybersecurity incident' after report of network breach, CIO News, ET CIO
08:01 TR News; "The breach appeared to have compromised many of Ubers internal systems, and a person claiming responsibility for the hack" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/technology/uber-hacking-breach.html | Source: New York Times
08:01 TR Bot; Uber Investigating Breach of Its Computer Systems - The New York Times
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08:10 TR News; "Computers, phones, household appliances, virtual assistance devices, cars, toys..." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet-of-things/eu-wants-tough-rules-on-internet-of-things-products/94234603 | Source: India Times
08:10 TR Bot; EU wants tough rules on 'internet of things' products, CIO News, ET CIO
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08:10 TR News; "People often talk about self-hosting as a singular concept when in reality its a spectrum of options with very different trade-offs." https://thomask.sdf.org/blog/2022/09/15/a-taxonomy-of-hosting-options.html | Source: Thomas Karpiniec
08:10 TR Bot; A taxonomy of hosting options, for personal data security
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08:14 TR News; "A report by the Tech Transparency Project in May found 435 pro-militia videos on YouTube" https://www.voanews.com/a/youtube-meta-will-expand-policies-research-to-fight-online-extremism-/6750016.html | Source: VOA News
08:14 TR Bot; YouTube, Meta Will Expand Policies, Research to Fight Online Extremism
08:14 TR News; "Fick will be the bureaus first-ever ambassador-at-large following its launch in April." https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3645263-senate-confirms-first-ever-cyber-ambassador/ | Source: The Hill
08:14 TR Bot; Senate confirms first-ever cyber ambassador | The Hill
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08:15 TR News; State Departments Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy https://therecord.media/senate-confirms-fick-as-first-u-s-cyber-ambassador/ | Source: The Record
08:15 TR Bot; Senate confirms Fick as first U.S. cyber ambassador - The Record by Recorded Future
08:15 TR News; [Old] "The aim of Finlands national cyber security strategy is to respond to cyber threats" https://um.fi/cyber-security-and-the-cyber-domain |
08:15 TR Bot; Cyber security and the cyber domain - Ministry for Foreign Affairs
08:16 TR News; "Social media and messaging apps are some of the first places they turn to and crisis pregnancy centers know it." https://www.teenvogue.com/story/crisis-pregnancy-centers-social-media-ads | Source: Teen Vogue
08:16 TR Bot; Crisis Pregnancy Centers Are Running Ads on TikTok, Snapchat, and Instagram | Teen Vogue
08:16 TR News; "One year later, a jury was unable to reach consensus on if Bhasin was mentally fit to stand trial." https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/werewolf-killer-banned-social-media-1234594171/ | Source: Rolling Stone
08:16 TR Bot; He Killed a Stranger He Thought Was a Werewolf. A Judge Just Banned Him From Social Media Rolling Stone
08:16 TR News; "A prosecutor called his Facebook dating profile intentionally misleading" https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/judge-orders-alexandria-werewolf-killer-pankaj-bhasin-off-social-media-after-dating-profile-sparks-concern/3158351/ |
08:16 TR Bot; Judge Orders Alexandria Werewolf Killer Off Social Media After Dating Profile Sparks Concern NBC4 Washington
08:16 TR News; "Fear is not what we need to propagate. Censorship is not a game to be played" http://thecountyline.net/pages/letter-to-the-editor-censorship-is-not-a-game-to-be-played/ |
08:17 TR Bot; The County Line | Letter to the editor: Censorship is not a game to be played - The County Line
08:17 TR News; "A lawyer who represents journalists and is familiar with the case told VOA Burmese that the prosecutor did not provide evidence" https://www.voanews.com/a/myanmar-sentences-journalist-with-bbc-to-three-years-labor-/6749500.html | Source: VOA News
↺ https://www.voanews.com/a/myanmar-sentences-journalist-with-bbc-to-three-years-labor-/6749500.html
08:17 TR Bot; Myanmar Sentences Journalist with BBC to Three Years Labor
08:18 TR News; "Smith had opened the door of the ambulance into the door of the unmarked police car LoTiempo had parked in the emergency vehicle" https://www.whec.com/top-news/news10nbc-exclusive-body-worn-camera-video-shows-moments-after-emt-was-arrested-in-strong-emergency-room/ | Source: Hubbard Broadcasting
08:18 TR Bot; Exclusive: Body-worn camera video shows moments after EMT was arrested in Strong Emergency Room - WHEC.com
08:18 TR News; "seems right now that the railway workers might be in a position similar to that of their sisters and brothers in IATSE" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/rail-workers-strike-agreement/ | Source: The Nation
08:18 TR Bot; Rail Workers, Nurses, Teachers Are Fighting From the Bottom Up | The Nation
08:18 TR News; "To boost ACP enrollment, speakers encouraged schools to reach out directly to families." https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/09/white-house-presses-outreach-initiatives-for-affordable-connectivity-program/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
08:18 TR Bot; White House Presses Outreach Initiatives for Affordable Connectivity Program : Broadband Breakfast
08:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
08:20 TR News; "When the league signed network deals last year to show its games, Amazon was included in the whopping 11 year package" https://text.npr.org/1123006928 | Source: BillPR
08:20 TR Bot; Ready, set, stream a new NFL era begins Thursday
08:20 TR News; "The suit is limited to California, where officials said Amazon had around 25 million customers" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/14/technology/california-files-antitrust-lawsuit-against-amazon.html | Source: New York Times
08:20 TR Bot; California Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Amazon - The New York Times
08:21 TR News; Copyrights: "For investors who look to yield predictable, long-term returns from these revenue streams" https://variety.com/vip-special-reports/banking-on-entertainment-a-special-report-1235367200/ | Source: Variety
08:21 TR Bot; on Entertainment: A Special Report - Variety
08:22 TR News; The gov. just uses the back doors Microsoft provides https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/law-enforcement-requests-report?rtc=1
08:22 TR Bot; Enforcement Request Report | Microsoft CSR
08:22 TR News; old: is this legal? No. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/06/google-nsa-gchq-spying-judicial-process
08:22 TR Bot; Google engineer accuses NSA and GCHQ of subverting 'judicial process' | Google | The Guardian
08:22 TR News; Imagine Letting a Power Company Control Your Thermostat https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/imagine-letting-a-power-company-control:6
08:22 TR Bot; Imagine Letting a Power Company Control Your Thermostat
08:23 TR News; "My Motorola G100 have a feature called Ready For that allows the phone not only to be mirrored to the TV but also a fully fledged desktop OS, very cool!" gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/lagrange-living-room-tv
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08:25 TR News; Use the real version. This is a straw man. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hackers-trojanize-putty-ssh-client-to-backdoor-media-company/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/09/trojanized-versions-of-putty-utility-being-used-to-spread-backdoor/
08:25 TR Bot; Hackers trojanize PuTTY SSH client to backdoor media company
08:25 TR Bot; Trojanized versions of PuTTY utility being used to spread backdoor | Ars Technica
08:25 TR News; mysql in spain https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.mysql.com/news-and-events/events/mysql-day-madrid-2022/
08:25 TR Bot; MySQL :: MySQL Day Madrid
08:26 TR News; hungary is a democracy; neither is the eu https://www.voanews.com/a/eu-lawmakers-declare-that-hungary-is-no-longer-a-democracy-/6750005.html
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08:26 TR Bot; EU Lawmakers Declare That Hungary is No Longer a Democracy
08:27 TR News; Buzzwords++++. "AIoT" https://ubuntu.com//blog/asus-iot-and-canonical-partner-on-ubuntu-certification-for-iot-applications | Source: Ubuntu
08:27 TR Bot; IoT and Canonical partner on Ubuntu Certification for IoT Applications | Ubuntu
08:28 TR News; "Arch Linux has a reputation for being an intimidating operating system to use, especially for beginners." https://www.tecmint.com/garuda-linux-review/ | Source: TecMint
08:28 TR Bot; Garuda Linux - A Linux Distribution Based on Arch Linux
08:29 TR News; "Making the best city-builder even better, the Cities: Skylines - Plazas & Promenades expansion is out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/cities-skylines-plazas-a-promenades-expansion-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:29 TR Bot; Skylines - Plazas & Promenades expansion is out now | GamingOnLinux
08:30 TR News; "Failbetter Games (Fallen London, Sunless Skies) has put up a brand new trailer for the upcoming release of Mask of the Rose." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/mask-of-the-rose-from-failbetter-games-gets-a-brand-new-trailer/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:30 TR Bot; of the Rose from Failbetter Games gets a brand new trailer | GamingOnLinux
08:31 TR News; "here's what to expect for the Linux desktop and Steam Deck" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/tinybuild-and-versus-evil-team-up-for-a-games-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:31 TR Bot; and Versus Evil team up for a games bundle | GamingOnLinux
08:32 TR News; "Mesa, the open source driver set for GNU/Linux, has two rather interesting bits of work done recently that gamers might want to keep an eye on" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/mesa-gets-a-big-csgo-speedup-plus-upcoming-amd-radv-performance-boost/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:32 TR Bot; gets a big CS:GO speedup, plus upcoming AMD RADV performance boost | GamingOnLinux
08:34 TR News; "The H96 MAX V58 is a TV Box equipped with the octa-core Rockchip RK3588 System on Chip (SoC) which features up to 8GB of RAM and up to 64GB of eMMC storage." https://linuxgizmos.com/rk3588-soc-based-tv-box-supports-8k60fps-resolution/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
08:34 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/rk3588-soc-based-tv-box-supports-8k60fps-resolution/ )
08:34 mixling; btw. with a roll-back to linux-2.4 era hardware, at that time Intel didn't equip their laptops and mainboards with IntelME
08:35 TR News; "odot Engine, the powerful free and open source game engine that is becoming increasingly popular has a massive new Beta release available for Godot 4" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/godot-engine-4-hits-beta-with-absolutely-loads-new/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR Bot; Engine 4 hits Beta with absolutely loads new | GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR News; "Team17 have announced that the latest big free update for Golf With Your Friends is out now, plus it's going on a Free Weekend so you can try before you buy" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/golf-with-your-friends-gets-a-free-sports-update-plus-a-free-weekend/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR Bot; With Your Friends gets a free Sports Update, plus a Free Weekend | GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR News; "The next-generation X-Plane 12 flight simulator is on the way, with it now being officially announced as available in Early Access with a Beta." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/x-plane-12-flight-sim-is-now-available-in-early-access-with-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR Bot; 12 flight sim is now available in Early Access with Linux support | GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR News; "The absolute classic that is Broken Sword 2 from Revolution Software just got a big surprise update" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/broken-sword-2-gets-a-big-upgrade-along-with-steam-deck-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:35 TR Bot; Sword 2 gets a big upgrade along with Steam Deck support | GamingOnLinux
08:36 highest_cubist_thrills; shes like an encyclopedia that eats culture and shits out common sense https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vRBsaJPkt2Q
08:36 TR Bot; Cringe | ContraPoints - Invidious
08:38 highest_cubist_thrills; i think 10 or 20 clones would be a safe/good number
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08:41 TR News; "In the previous article, we learned how to run commands in a directory as root via sudo." https://ostechnix.com/prevent-command-arguments-with-sudo/ | Source: OSTechNix
08:41 TR Bot; Command Arguments With Sudo In Linux - OSTechNix
08:41 TR News; "This brief guide explains how to allow an user to run all programs in a directory via sudo and deny the user to run programs in other directories" https://ostechnix.com/run-programs-in-a-directory-via-sudo/ | Source: OSTechNix
08:41 TR Bot; All Programs In A Directory Via Sudo In Linux - OSTechNix
08:41 TR News; (NEW): Games: Cities: Skylines, Mask of the Rose, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Games_Cities_Skylines_Mask_of_the_Rose_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Games_Cities_Skylines_Mask_of_the_Rose_and_More.gmi
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08:43 TR News; Fully Oxidizing `ring`: Creating a Pure Rust TLS Stack Based on `rustls` + `ring` https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6521
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08:44 TR News; Python Package Manager PIP Cheat Sheet for Linux <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Linux Shell Tips" href="https://www.linuxshelltips.com/pip-cheat-sheet-linux/">Read on</a>
08:44 TR Bot; Python Package Manager PIP Cheat Sheet for Linux
08:45 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 15, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/16/irc-log-150922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/16/irc-log-150922/
08:45 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 15, 2022 | Techrights
08:46 TR News; Python Package Manager PIP Cheat Sheet for Linux https://www.linuxshelltips.com/pip-cheat-sheet-linux/ Source: Linux Shell Tips | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxshelltips.com/pip-cheat-sheet-linux/
08:47 TR News; Asus IoT, Canonical partner on Ubuntu Linux certification for IoT apps - Telecompaper https://www.telecompaper.com/news/asus-iot-canonical-partner-on-ubuntu-linux-certification-for-iot-apps--1437509 Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.telecompaper.com/news/asus-iot-canonical-partner-on-ubuntu-linux-certification-for-iot-apps--1437509
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08:48 TR News; Just delete ChromeOS, install a 'proper' GNU/Linux on that https://chromeunboxed.com/camera-access-for-linux-on-chromeos-may-be-very-close/
08:48 TR Bot; Camera access for Linux on ChromeOS may be very close
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08:51 TR Bot; Lab Refresh - Sudo Show - TuxDigital
08:52 TR News; "The Shiteo card will come out, thanks NShitia" http://ultimateedition.info/the-unthinkable-has-happened/
08:52 TR Bot; The Unthinkable has happened. - Ultimate Edition
08:53 TR News; OpenCL 3.0.12 is out
08:55 TR News; "Ubuntu is a Nguni Bantu term meaning humanity and is often translated as I am because we are." Or "because we are Microsoft" if you go by Canonical's definition https://uknow.uky.edu/campus-news/graduate-and-professional-students-staff-and-faculty-invited-ubuntu-orientation
08:55 TR Bot; Graduate and professional students, staff and faculty invited to Ubuntu Orientation | UKNow
08:56 TR News; FOSS Weekly #22.34: Books to Master Linux, Dangerous Commands, Torvalds on Apple M2 and More <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Yahoo News" href="https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-34/">Read on</a>
08:56 TR Bot; FOSS Weekly #22.34: Books to Master Linux, Dangerous Commands, Torvalds on Apple M2 and More
08:57 highest_cubist_thrills; holy fuck
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; ive never heard of chris-chan, i feel like i just lost the game
08:58 highest_cubist_thrills; /me cheats and looks ahead
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 184.26
09:00 TR News; (NEW): Penpot is a Solid Open-Source Figma Alternative to Look Out for! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Penpot_is_a_Solid_Open_Source_Figma_Alternative_to_Look_Out_for.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Penpot_is_a_Solid_Open_Source_Figma_Alternative_to_Look_Out_for.gmi
09:00 TR Bot; Tux Machines Penpot is a Solid Open-Source Figma Alternative to Look Out for!
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; f chris-chan?
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; does not ring a bell
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; is that like 4/6 chan?
09:03 schestowitz[TR]; or some chinese name?
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; no, shes an an autistic transwoman who...
09:04 highest_cubist_thrills; just google it
09:05 highest_cubist_thrills; im speechless. me.
09:06 highest_cubist_thrills; just dont think i lump her in with anyone else who is autistic, or trans, or both
09:07 highest_cubist_thrills; this is someone who makes stallman look like the coolest motherfucker who-- poor choice of words
09:07 highest_cubist_thrills; the coolest person who ever lived
09:07 highest_cubist_thrills; though honestly, i think stallman is pretty cool all in all
09:07 highest_cubist_thrills; really
09:08 schestowitz[TR]; rms is in another universe
09:08 highest_cubist_thrills; id also note that the only reason ive ever heard of this person is im watching natalie wynn, who i would marry without a second thought
09:09 highest_cubist_thrills; yes, and that universe is a lot cooler than this piece of shit.
09:09 highest_cubist_thrills; though even this piece of shit has its moments. and stallman. at least part-way.
09:13 highest_cubist_thrills; natalie wynn isnt a free software person, but im pretty sure if she made a video about free software it would be the smartest video ever made on the subject
09:14 highest_cubist_thrills; probably not enough to reboot the movement
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09:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but if stallman was (even) smarter he would give wynn a few housand, say "make this video please" and then NOT try to direct her
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; because his directions would never help make that video a thing
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09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; the video would be better than digital vegan-- which ive read, and liked
09:15 highest_cubist_thrills; and it would cover the coup
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; honestly if i had a few thousand to spare, id give her that and say "please make this video"
09:16 highest_cubist_thrills; other people make videos about topics
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; she makes documentaries... about youtube topics
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; this one is about cringe
09:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and its a fucking documentary on the topic
09:19 highest_cubist_thrills; holy fucking shit
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09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought id learned the worst of it when i read she was arrested for
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; nope
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; nope
09:20 highest_cubist_thrills; this just gets worse and worse
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i feel sorry for geno samuel
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; if he ever reaches self awareness, say some time after death
09:22 highest_cubist_thrills; hes going to come back just so he can kill himself
09:30 *matteobin (~matteobin@3rwucdg8qym5c.irc) has joined #techrights
09:33 highest_cubist_thrills; "its also not lost on me that this is the seventh time ive dressed as an anime catgirl 'to make fun of them'"
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09:39 highest_cubist_thrills; so much of what shes talking about in this video was used against stallman and against free software...
09:39 highest_cubist_thrills; for decades
09:39 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean this is the internet at its very fucking worst-- this it the internet that lessig talks about like maybe it wasnt such a great idea after all
09:39 *techuser (~techuser@u6e4grxkxibun.irc) has joined #techrights
09:39 highest_cubist_thrills; which i dont agree with and lessig probably doesnt either
09:40 highest_cubist_thrills; but oh, i summoned its mascot
09:40 matteobin; Sorry, I've just joined the channel. What are you talking about?
09:40 highest_cubist_thrills; sorry, every new person is either phanes or herr doktor. which one are you?
09:41 highest_cubist_thrills; also i totally know your handle, so how is that possible
09:42 XRevan86; https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/16/a78807
09:42 TR Bot; Ukraine Reveals Discovery of Mass Grave as U.S. Announces New Aid - The Moscow Times
09:43 mixling; "provide lethal aid to Ukraine" RAND Corp. USA, 2019, end quote.
09:43 matteobin; I'm not herr doktor, but I don't know what "phanes" means. I'm not a native English writer.
09:43 highest_cubist_thrills; ok, hi
09:44 matteobin; I've already written on this chat, maybe you do remember me.
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09:44 highest_cubist_thrills; this channel is mostly about the russian invasian of ukraine, youtube, whatever nazi bullshit herr doktor is on, and of course, mandy
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09:44 highest_cubist_thrills; its also technically about free software and the internet
09:45 highest_cubist_thrills; (officially)
09:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but you can see for yourself how that works out
09:45 matteobin; Who herr doktor is? I thought this channel was about digital rights and tech related philosophy.
09:45 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe it was once
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09:45 matteobin; I'm confused now.
09:46 highest_cubist_thrills; its pointless to tell you who herr dokor is because zeroing in on his handle is like trying to tune an am radio you built out of scrap wire and toilet roll
09:46 highest_cubist_thrills; <matteobin> I'm confused now. <- welcome to #techrights where confusion is guaranteed
09:47 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills means mixling, who's original nickname in this channel was activelow and he's also known as aggi.
09:47 highest_cubist_thrills; initially this might seem like its my fault-- feel free to look around and decide for yourself
09:47 *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@pmeqtjandsa9n.irc) has joined #techrights
09:48 matteobin; Oh, you are talking about a former member of this channel. Got it.
09:48 matteobin; I don't know herr doktor.
09:49 matteobin; I heard about this IRC server from another guy on IRC called Som4H4x0r.
09:50 matteobin; And I knew your website.
09:51 matteobin; I've read your wiki pages about the Linux Foundation.
09:51 highest_cubist_thrills; no, youre thinking of roy
09:52 highest_cubist_thrills; and his website
09:52 highest_cubist_thrills; oh, you know somehackor
09:52 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah he was just here actually
09:52 highest_cubist_thrills; thats how i know your handle. ok, hi
09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe i saw you in #digdeeper via the bridge or something
09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; seriously though, this channel has had dozens of the same guy using as many handles lately
09:53 highest_cubist_thrills; its making people cynical, i mean me
09:53 matteobin; Yesterday I joined this channel to ask about the ThinkPad X270.
09:54 highest_cubist_thrills; what about the thinkpad x270
09:54 matteobin; Well I'm really me, Matteo Bini.
09:54 matteobin; I wanted to know if it were good like the old ones.
09:55 matteobin; Anyway, what were you saying about Richard Stallman?
09:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know old thinkpads
09:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know much about new ones either
09:56 matteobin; I got my answers from another user, don't worry. :)
09:56 highest_cubist_thrills; whats to say about richard stallman? he created a movement, hes one of the more important people of the 20th/21st century, its a shame what they did to that movement
09:56 highest_cubist_thrills; i consider the free software movement dead, personally
09:56 matteobin; Yeah, I know him. I like him.
09:57 matteobin; You were saying this: "so much of what shes talking about in this video was used against stallman and against free software..." What was this about?
09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; natalie wynns video on "cringe"
09:57 matteobin; Why do you consider the Free Software movement dead?
09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; also the name of the video on youtube
09:57 highest_cubist_thrills; aka contrapoints
09:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but not just "cringe" i meant the details of the video itself
09:58 matteobin; Oh, I got it. A lot of people consider Stallman cringe so they don't even listen to his saying. Right?
09:58 highest_cubist_thrills; specifically when she starts talking about ingroup cringe
09:59 matteobin; *to what he says
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; but yes
09:59 matteobin; That's sad, even if it's a classic trait of human nature.
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; but its not even that they dont listen
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; they dont think other people should listen either
09:59 highest_cubist_thrills; because if they listen, that will only encourage him, and he will just keep doing it
10:00 matteobin; That's even worst! :D
10:00 highest_cubist_thrills; naturally
10:00 matteobin; Why do you consider the movement dead? I like Stallman and Free Software.
10:01 mixling; GPL is too weak, that's what RMS isn't honest about
10:01 mixling; and the arbitrary line drawn down to non-free hardware is another misnomer of his
10:01 highest_cubist_thrills; what theyve done of course is destroyed the entire movement
10:02 highest_cubist_thrills; if stallman painted it into a corner, theyve doused it with petrol and lit a match
10:02 highest_cubist_thrills; it had enough problems without them
10:02 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe this was inevitable, but i dont think letting them off the hook so easily is their answer
10:03 highest_cubist_thrills; theyve made their fire, and now they should burn in it
10:03 highest_cubist_thrills; metaphorically speaking
10:03 highest_cubist_thrills; though honestly, they can go ahead...
10:03 mixling; just see, which opensource implementations are available for x86 IBM Wintel hardware: it's the ao486 without USB, without ethernet, and clocked at a few dozen MHz on FPGA
10:03 mixling; i mean, GNU compiler, good luck with using this one on an ao486 opensource x86 system
10:04 mixling; and x86 IBM Wintel is what's promoted by FSF/GNU/RMS/Linux whoever
10:04 TR News; "This weeks openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshots had several KDE packages updated and an update affecting scripts related to grep." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/09/15/plasma-gear-frameworks-up-in-tw/ |
10:04 TR Bot; Plasma, Gear, Frameworks update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE News
10:04 matteobin; These are all very serious issues we shoud care and fight for.
10:05 TR News; "In the future, this will be integrated into settings." https://puri.sm/posts/auto-contrast-on-librem-5-smartphones/ | Source: Purism
10:05 TR Bot; Auto Contrast on Librem 5 smartphones Purism
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; natalie wynn is definitely my spirit animal.
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; shes my image of intellectual perfection. by no means do i think shes perfect
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; just close enough.
10:06 highest_cubist_thrills; These are all very serious issues we shoud care and fight for. <- on the more constructive side of things
10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; the rising battle for free hardware is an opportunity to rekindle the free software movement
10:07 matteobin; However from what you are writing I get a sense of resignation.
10:07 TR News; Department of Homeland Security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/san-francisco-police-must-end-irresponsible-relationship-northern-california | Source: EFF
10:07 TR Bot; San Francisco Police Must End Irresponsible Relationship with the Northern California Fusion Center | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:07 matteobin; Do you think that all hope is lost?
10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; its the long way around, so im not counting on any immediate results
10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; Do you think that all hope is lost? <- ill answer that with a very broad metaphor.
10:07 highest_cubist_thrills; im agnostic. when i was 4 i was a strong atheist, like stallman is.
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; but in my teens i worked out how we could have reincarnation in a world with no gods and no afterlife.
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; seems like a contradiction in terms
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; but my reasoning went like this
10:08 schestowitz[TR]; god and afterlife are separate
10:08 highest_cubist_thrills; with or without a god, its basically impossible for anything to exist in the first place
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; karma for instance
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; incarnation
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, existence should not be possible
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; but we do it anyway
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; some yuppies turn to bhuddism
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; its a very godlike trick, but i was coming at this from science
10:09 schestowitz[TR]; but seems to be with lifestyle, not actual belief
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; buddha started as a yuppie, so it fits
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; he rejected it
10:09 highest_cubist_thrills; and became enlightened
10:10 mixling; nowadays, the options available with "software freedom" are that limited, GNU/FSF/BSD/Linux/whoever would loose 99.9% of their users and developers if restraining themselves to the criteria, of freedom
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; its impossible for us to exist at all
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but we do it anyway
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; assuming the universe ceases to exist
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; or even if it doesnt
10:10 TR News; FOSTA https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/fight-overturn-fosta-unconstitutional-internet-censorship-law-continues | Source: EFF
10:10 TR Bot; The Fight to Overturn FOSTA, an Unconstitutional Internet Censorship Law, Continues | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; existing the first time around was impossible and we did it anyway
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; its impossible to exclude the possibility that in an infinite amount of time we woudlnt exist a second, third, infinite number of times
10:10 highest_cubist_thrills; so this was my atheism-friendly theory of reincarnation
10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i guess i was bored
10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; Do you think that all hope is lost? <- i mean...
10:11 highest_cubist_thrills; ultimately damned near anything is possible.
10:11 TR News; FTC https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/members-congress-urge-ftc-investigate-fog-data-science | Source: EFF
10:11 TR Bot; Members of Congress Urge FTC to Investigate Fog Data Science | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; nearly everything we do is impossible already
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; so thats obviously not a problem
10:12 TR News; Anti-SLAPP https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/its-time-federal-anti-slapp-law-protect-online-speakers | Source: EFF
10:12 TR Bot; Its Time For A Federal Anti-SLAPP Law To Protect Online Speakers | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:12 mixling; GPL, sufficed to protect an open development model, to acquire development man power, unpaid often
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; so like douglas adams used to say
10:12 TR News; Patagonia https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/15/patagonias-founder-found-the-only-way-to-be-a-good-billionaire/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:12 TR Bot; Founder Found the Only Way to Be a Good Billionaire scheerpost.com
10:12 mixling; with an implied argument, any prestige could be earned with this
10:12 highest_cubist_thrills; at most we can talk about whats likely or improbable
10:13 mixling; in the end, the development man-power is lured into proprietary shitware "made in USA" spying on users and developers and everyone
10:13 highest_cubist_thrills; it might happen anyway, but some things are extremely unlikely to happen
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but again-- it might happen
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; etc
10:14 mixling; an open development model, is desireable with "free software" of cause, however an open development model which GPL protects does not protect software-freedom
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; some people will keep trying
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont see many, and i spend a lot of time looking
10:14 TR News; "iconic hacker artist Eddie" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-def-con-30-puzzle-solved | Source: EFF
10:14 TR Bot; EFFs DEF CON 30 PuzzleSOLVED | Electronic Frontier Foundation
10:14 mixling; because, in the end, whoever the copyright holders are finally, let me guess, IBM/RedHat/Wintel/Pentagon/RAND corp
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; hopefully free software will reboot eventually
10:14 mixling; it is them finally decide about licensing terms
10:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but i dont think "when" is a question with a happy answer
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10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; now? no.
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; soon? probably not.
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; much later? perhaps/
10:15 TR News; nypd and fbi... to cnn! https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/15/cnns-new-police-expert-formerly-of-the-nypd-and-fbi-misleads-audience-with-crime-claims/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:15 TR Bot; New Police ExpertFormerly of the NYPD and FBIMisleads Audience With Crime Claims scheerpost.com
10:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i think it has to, eventually. but probably not anytime soon.
10:15 TR News; National Railroad Strike https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/15/freight-workers-explain-why-national-railroad-strike-is-looming/ | Source: Scheerpost
↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/15/freight-workers-explain-why-national-railroad-strike-is-looming/
10:15 TR Bot; Workers Explain Why National Railroad Strike is Looming scheerpost.com
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; for now its just dead
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; free hardware is interesting
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; its not something i know much about
10:16 TR News; Stiffing https://scheerpost.com/2022/09/15/price-increases-persist-despite-supply-chain-progress/ | Source: Scheerpost
10:16 TR Bot; Increases Persist Despite Supply Chain Progress scheerpost.com
10:16 highest_cubist_thrills; im much more suited to free software
10:16 mixling; the distinction of free/open hardware from free/open source software is a MISNOMER already
10:17 highest_cubist_thrills; the difference is that free hardware is making progess, slowly
10:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and free software isnt
10:17 highest_cubist_thrills; advocacy is mostly about fooling oneself now
10:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and denying the obvious and endless evidence
10:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and generally bullshitting
10:18 mixling; the difference is, there isn't none, free hardware, to rely upon
10:18 mixling; and the term "hardware" is unspecific
10:18 mixling; digital circuitry, it's just source code
10:19 mixling; and mathematics, just like any other free "software"
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i do think its possible to be optimistic without bullshit
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; it wouldnt be easy
10:19 highest_cubist_thrills; it would have to be very cautious, very frank, very reserved optimism
10:20 mixling; however, FSF/GNU/RMS chose to perpetuate the misnomer "software freedom" ended exactly when it benefits the monopolist RAND corp cartell USA
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10:20 highest_cubist_thrills; thats just not most people
10:21 matteobin; Are you implying that the current situation is due to Stallman's errors?
10:21 matteobin; Or are you saying that he was not honest to begin with.
10:21 matteobin; *with?
10:21 highest_cubist_thrills; i really dont blame stallman
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think its fair or honest to blame someone who has had literally thousands of people attacking him at the same time
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; in a dishonest way
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; has he failed? yes. is there anyone doing better? not that i can tell.
10:22 highest_cubist_thrills; so basically id be blaming him for not being superhuman.
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; when he nearly is.
10:23 mixling; with "free hardware" i don't refer to manufacturing either, i refer to the documentation, source-codes, schematics, digital circuitry etc
10:23 matteobin; Right, I get it. :D
10:23 mixling; of cause, manufacturing, can't be free as in gratis
10:23 mixling; software development can't be either
10:23 matteobin; What about minimal software, i.e. suckless software?
10:23 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its a good thing. i dont think by itself, thats the answer
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but for example, i use dwm
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its literally suckless
10:24 mixling; suckless isn't minimal with regards to the dependency graph they rely upon
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but also, the reason i use it is that every alternative is either based on microsoft github
10:24 highest_cubist_thrills; or has libraries from gnome
10:24 matteobin; I've started to thinking that we don't need that much software. Less is more and the most great software is already Free as in freedom.
10:24 matteobin; You're right about suckless dependencies.
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i can make an argument for less is more-- i can actually make several arguments for it
10:25 matteobin; *the greatest
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; but someone who used to lead a project i was involved with would talk about
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; doing "more, with less"
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; and he thought this was an important difference with sheer minimalism
10:25 highest_cubist_thrills; i still think minimalism is good
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10:26 mixling; btw. i think there is another reason, why much of hardware documentation isn't open source, other reasons than "intellectual property" and "patents"
10:26 mixling; i think, many manufacturers and engineers simply haven't got sufficient quality documentation and oversight
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; https://techrights.org/2020/11/14/removing-monopoly/
10:26 mixling; over their own products
10:26 TR Bot; The Surest Path to Freedom is Removing Your Software | Techrights
10:26 highest_cubist_thrills; i also think boycotting github is good. impossible really, but worth trying
10:26 mixling; and it doesn't generate cash-flow into USA shareholder pockets either
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; theres certainly no better way to get a picture of how much microsoft has taken over.
10:27 matteobin; Right. I concur.
10:27 highest_cubist_thrills; i also do what i can to boycott the people i consider traitors to the movement
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; i still use pgp though
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; i still use tor
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; and i havent completely removed gnome from my computer, i still use gtk for a (VERY) few things
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; eliminating gtk entirely would be nice
10:28 highest_cubist_thrills; i must use at least 3 applications that require it
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont use kde either.
10:29 mixling; salvaging GTK would be nice, i think it's not possible anymore, at least i doubt it will happen
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; its not that i dont like software
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; im waiting for the movement to stop being shit
10:29 mixling; motif widget toolkit, which is 100% free nowadays, won't attract any developers nor users anymore either
10:29 highest_cubist_thrills; i think its going to be a while.
10:30 matteobin; What I was trying to say was that, yes, we face every day huge obstacles to software freedom; however there are many great FOSS software and we don't need a FOSS Discord kind of app, because it's not what I would like as an hacker.
10:31 MinceR; just fork gtk2
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; <MinceR> just fork gtk <- thats not a bad idea
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i didnt deliberately truncate the 2
10:31 highest_cubist_thrills; blame my mouse
10:31 mixling; gtk2 already fully entangled with the flawed unicode implementation, which was the final reason i removed all GTK2/3 (besides the systemd/dbus clutter)
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; however i think at least 1/3 of the applications i use requires gtk3
10:32 mixling; it was still possible, to cleanup gtk2/3 to avoid systemd/dbus etc.; detangling the flawed unicode implementation wasn't possible
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; and will surely require gtk4 eventually
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; id like to be rid of it for obvious reasons
10:32 highest_cubist_thrills; getting rid of gtk2 is easier, if i could do that
10:33 mixling; that's why i think there is still an argument to be made, for motif widget toolkit (which got unicode support and isn't poisoned by systemd clutter)
10:33 highest_cubist_thrills; if you were throwing up constantly because of a debilitating illness
10:34 mixling; the netsurf-motif port i brought to linux, is still worth some effort, however if haven't got the time, and motif won't attract anyone nowadays, neither developers nor users
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; forking gtk2 would be like spending all your energy developing a cure for throwing up all the time
10:34 highest_cubist_thrills; youd still have the bigger problem (though the cure might be worth it)
10:34 TR News; This Simple Light-Controlled Synth https://hackaday.com/2022/09/15/this-simple-light-controlled-synth-has-a-surprisingly-rich-sound/ | Source: Hackaday
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10:35 highest_cubist_thrills; i think throwing up a lot is a good metaphor for gtk
10:35 mixling; last weekend i decided, i won't accept any GNU autotools/automake anymore, neither GNU-toolchain nor GNU-buildsystem
10:36 TR News; "Since the early 2000s, the CPU industry has shifted from raw clock speed to core counts" and energy is still wasted https://hackaday.com/2022/09/15/fork-and-run-the-definitive-guide-to-getting-started-with-multiprocessing/ | Source: Hackaday
10:36 TR Bot; And Run: The Definitive Guide To Getting Started With Multiprocessing | Hackaday
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; especially if you run the application from the console, where its constantly regurgitating nonsense about how no distribution ever bothered to create a fontconfig that conformed to the most pointless rule of configs ever created
10:36 mixling; for software quality reaons, technical reasons, not political ones; GPL is acceptable, although i consider it too weak
10:36 highest_cubist_thrills; thats something i need to be flooded about every time my mouse clicks something
10:37 TR News; "Nickel and Dimed" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/honoring-barbara-ehrenreich-who-exposed-how-toxic-positivity-used-dismiss-economic | Source: Common Dreams
10:37 TR Bot; Opinion | Honoring Barbara Ehrenreich, Who Exposed How Toxic Positivity Is Used to Dismiss Economic Inequality | Sonali Kolhatkar
10:37 mixling; for software freedom, thats another one RMS remained rather silent about, it should have been both, GPL/Copyleft in conjunction with _STANDARDS_ compliance
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; if you want to help free software, one of the best things you can do is use free software
10:38 mixling; GNU implementation variants, often are the ones who "improve" upon POSIX, with specific extensions...
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; unless youre a gnome developer
10:38 highest_cubist_thrills; if youre a gnome developer, the best thing you can do to help free software, is kill yourself.
10:39 highest_cubist_thrills; that would really help the entire world, and if you think about it, it only takes minutes.
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; its definitely possible to screw it up, so planning it carefully helps.
10:40 mixling; 2022-09-16 09:38:22 <highest_cubist_thrills> if youre a gnome developer, the best thing you can do to help free software, is kill yourself
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; not that i think anyone is actually going to
10:40 techuser; just a GNOME developer?
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; but it would still be a step forward
10:40 techuser; I think it is about most developers these days
10:40 highest_cubist_thrills; <techuser> just a GNOME developer? <- no
10:40 techuser; things are only getting worse
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; but if i listed everyone that might be able to help that way, then ill REALLY sound like an arsehole.
10:41 techuser; programmers are told to write shitty code
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; shitty code doesnt bother me
10:41 techuser; using shitty frameworks or whatever
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; shitty code is really the default variety.
10:41 techuser; bloated
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; good code isnt easy. its probably not even common.
10:41 highest_cubist_thrills; that doesnt bother me. im not a fucking nazi.
10:41 TR News; (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi
10:41 TR Bot; Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; i write shitty code. every person i know who has written code, has written plenty of shitty code.
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; its the deftault.
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; like my shitty typing.
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; writing something as fuck-awful as gnome
10:42 highest_cubist_thrills; that takes SKILL. EFFORT. ORGANISATION.
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; and maybe a true burning hatred for the human race. i wouldnt know
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont actually hate the human race
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; i feel like maybe i should, but i just dont
10:43 highest_cubist_thrills; ive even tried.
10:44 mixling; i didn't question developer competence, instead, the fact millions of hours of precious development man power is wasted, this makes it WORSE, not any better
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont go as far as to say writing something like systemd requires skill though
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, enough monkeys with enough typewriters, smoking enough crack SHOULD be able to manage it
10:44 highest_cubist_thrills; perhaps if you beat them
10:45 highest_cubist_thrills; then again, if you do that not only will you have to deal with peta, youd also have to explain that you meant LITERALLY beating a monkey, not...
10:45 highest_cubist_thrills; anway
10:45 highest_cubist_thrills; linus got there first
10:46 highest_cubist_thrills; and hes basically the simon cowell of c code
10:49 highest_cubist_thrills; except that he can sing
10:49 matteobin; What do you think about Purism, the company?
10:50 mixling; who thinks what?
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; leah passionately hates them
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; their take on purism makes as much sense as anyone elses
10:50 mixling; i can understand this
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; so im guessing purism is something to avoid
10:50 highest_cubist_thrills; particularly anything from the todd who runs...
10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; is it todd weaver?
10:51 mixling; that's a problem often, "libre hardware" is confused with "libre firmware"
10:51 mixling; that's NOT the same
10:51 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought it made bryan lunduke look like he was going legit-- this really should have been a red flag
10:52 matteobin; What do you mean with "going legit"?
10:52 matteobin; I like Lunduke from time to time, even if his opinions are really generic.
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean lunduke strikes me as a complete sleazeball and is probably incapable of being a reasonable person for any sustained period of time
10:54 highest_cubist_thrills; or maybe even the length of a youtube video
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10:55 matteobin; Sleazeball? Why?
10:55 mixling; purism barely meets the criteria "libre firmware", with anything they offer for sale
10:55 schestowitz[TR]; purism is a Brand (TM)
10:55 mixling; and it's certainly not "free hardware"; there isn't none
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; just more tracking devices
10:56 mixling; too, it distracts customers and developers from what "free hardware" really is and where to look for it
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; with debian+gnome
10:56 schestowitz[TR]; and hype
10:56 mixling; btw. too i direct this critique mildly towards coreboot/libreboot... theirs isn't free hardware
10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; Sleazeball? Why? <- the way he treated stallman in one of the first videos i ever watched lunduke on is a factor here
10:57 matteobin; Now you are making me feel bad about purchasing the Librem 5! :D
10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; but really, 90% of what ive seen of lunduke since doesnt indicate that it was a fluke
10:57 mixling; as far as "free" x86 hardware is concerned, the ao486 is the "best" you can get, without USB and without Ethernet, clocked at a few dozen MHz
10:57 highest_cubist_thrills; hes an opportunist, hes very stuck on himself, he doesnt seem to have any guiding principles that arent based on... creating an audience
10:57 mixling; and, back to GNU/FSF/RMS and their software, have fun with GCC on an ao486 FPGA
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; matteobin: don't feel bad
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; if you NEEd a mobile phone, that's the least bad
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; but movile phones are hopeless
10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; Now you are making me feel bad about purchasing the Librem 5! <- maybe the phone itself isnt so bad
10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; but i wouldnt give purism the money
10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; that's the least bad <- wouldnt pinephone be better
10:58 schestowitz[TR]; http://techrights.org/2022/09/03/privacy-of-mobile-phones/
10:58 TR Bot; The Privacy Problem Associated With All Mobile Phones (Even Dumb Ones) is Worse Than Snowden Put It | Techrights
10:58 highest_cubist_thrills; with the caveat of still being a phone of course
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean i dont necessarily disagree with what you said about phones...
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; pinephone is cheaper
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; I saw reviews of pinephones and librems (5)
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; arent the makers also less terrible than purism?
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; neither solve the big issues
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; but...
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; neither could
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; they give you 'proper' gnu/linux in the pocket
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; its gsm, its fucked
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; nokia tried to do this over a decade agfo
10:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.40 k/sec., IPFS upstream 89.70 average k/sec., average swarm size 158.53
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; msnokia
10:59 schestowitz[TR]; then, Microsoft and Elop assassinated Nokia
10:59 highest_cubist_thrills; exactly
11:00 highest_cubist_thrills; but again
11:00 mixling; Telekom sucks, yes
11:00 highest_cubist_thrills; isnt purism bad enough that pinephone would be better?
11:00 highest_cubist_thrills; as for pinephone is cheaper, isnt the price of purisms stuff also ridiculous?
11:02 highest_cubist_thrills; from their own page: Purism is a Social Purpose Corporation founded by Todd Weaver in 2014.
11:02 highest_cubist_thrills; lol
11:02 highest_cubist_thrills; "social purpose"
11:02 highest_cubist_thrills; i was making sure i had the right todd
11:03 highest_cubist_thrills; and the right company. i was 90% sure it was purism
11:03 highest_cubist_thrills; i havent seen any rebuttal of anything leah said about them
11:03 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe not everyone passinately agrees-- but ive seen no rebuttal. or even evidence to the contrary.
11:04 highest_cubist_thrills; at worst theyre a scam, at best, they suck?
11:04 matteobin; What about this "Todd Weaver" guy?
11:04 matteobin; I know he's the founder.
11:04 highest_cubist_thrills; leah talks about him like hes a charlatan
11:04 matteobin; But why do you think he's a scam?
11:04 highest_cubist_thrills; until i see a rebuttal i think that sounds reasonable
11:05 highest_cubist_thrills; a lot of people felt scammed over simple failures to deliver
11:05 highest_cubist_thrills; paired with terrible customer service
11:05 highest_cubist_thrills; but it sounds like it goes beyond that
11:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, the worse ive heard is in the chat logs, but since i dont have a copy anymore i cant simply grep them
11:05 highest_cubist_thrills; the chat logs for this channel
11:05 highest_cubist_thrills; where they talk about purism
11:06 highest_cubist_thrills; for starters they charge A LOT
11:06 highest_cubist_thrills; they also make a very big deal out of practices leah says werent very innovative
11:06 highest_cubist_thrills; there were other complaints
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; really it all adds up to a pretty negative picture
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; but maybe leahs wrong
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; so far no one has come out to defend weaver
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; ive heard mostly negative things from people in general
11:07 highest_cubist_thrills; if i had to buy an expensive phone, i can honestly say i wouldnt get one from them
11:08 highest_cubist_thrills; if i were looking for an alternative id look to pinephone
11:08 highest_cubist_thrills; but really im not in the market for a smartphone at all
11:08 mixling; alternative to what? for what?
11:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont like android, or apple, or microsoft
11:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i wanted a huiwei but they literally wouldnt sell it to me :)
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11:09 highest_cubist_thrills; we had it out of the box, i had cash in hand
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11:09 mixling; if you're interested in free/opensource radio, maybe some ax.25 amateur radio is possible, with both free hardware and free software
11:09 highest_cubist_thrills; it was hilarious
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11:09 highest_cubist_thrills; i ended up buying from another store
11:09 highest_cubist_thrills; but i never got my huiwei
11:09 matteobin; Regarding pinephones, they are able to sell those phones because of Purism software stack. Is this correct?
11:09 mixling; that's what i mean, the advertising for the coreboot and libre-phone stuff, it distracts, from what free/opensource really is
11:09 highest_cubist_thrills; that i have no idea
11:09 highest_cubist_thrills; your guess is as good as mine
11:09 matteobin; I don't think pinephones could exist without Purism.
11:10 highest_cubist_thrills; but id ask someone other than purism about this
11:10 matteobin; It's not a guess: they have the same software stack, developed by Purism.
11:10 highest_cubist_thrills; beacuse once again, according to leah, todd weaver takes credit for a lot of things he shouldnt
11:10 highest_cubist_thrills; they have the same software stack, developed by Puris <- if anything this makes me less likely to want a pinephone either
11:10 highest_cubist_thrills; not that the software is necessarily bad
11:10 highest_cubist_thrills; ive heard mostly good things about pinephone, fwiw
11:11 matteobin; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosh
11:11 TR Bot; Phosh - Wikipedia
11:11 highest_cubist_thrills; if its the same software...
11:11 highest_cubist_thrills; the software cant be THAT bad
11:11 matteobin; This was developed by Purism.
11:11 highest_cubist_thrills; okay
11:11 highest_cubist_thrills; like i said, im not in the market for a smartphone
11:11 highest_cubist_thrills; so this is very hypothetical for me
11:11 TR News; "I will never forget the afternoon before my very first day as a middle school teacher in central New Jersey." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/teachers-should-carry-books-not-guns-and-politicians-should-do-their-jobs | Source: Common Dreams
11:11 TR Bot; Opinion | Teachers Should Carry Books, Not GunsAnd Politicians Should Do Their Jobs | Christina Wyman
11:11 matteobin; Do you have a dumb phone?
11:11 mixling; none of the "libre" phones got a free/opensource UMTS modem, none of them, there isn't none
11:12 highest_cubist_thrills; i always avoid apple and android
11:12 highest_cubist_thrills; so it has to be dumber than that
11:12 highest_cubist_thrills; and i dont like touchscreens
11:12 mixling; ax.25 or some hayes300 modem stuff, that's were freedom ends. for developers
11:12 highest_cubist_thrills; phones keep getting more sophisticated. id like to be mobile-free eventually
11:13 mixling; that's another critique, directed towards FSF/GNU/RMS whoever: they haven't got the relevant stuff on their radar
11:14 mixling; and instead distract and lure precious development man-power into the realm of spying shitware "made in USA"
11:15 matteobin; I agree on this.
11:15 highest_cubist_thrills; but as for "until then" who knows
11:15 matteobin; I've bought the Librem 5 to support Purism, because I thought they were a nice company.
11:15 matteobin; But I don't like phones.
11:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i only mention what i do about purism because i have some respect for leahs opinion on these things
11:15 highest_cubist_thrills; i certainly dont agree with them on everything
11:16 matteobin; I loathe the idea of being always reachable.
11:17 matteobin; However I do recognise that having a phone sometimes is useful.
11:17 matteobin; Buy you could carry it switched OFF and then use it only in case of emergency.
11:18 TR News; Clownflare is a cancer, just avoid and try to bypass it completely; it became facilitator of censorship (e.g. countries blocking sites via Clownflare) https://torrentfreak.com/cloudflare-vows-to-fight-global-1-1-1-1-dns-blocking-orders-220915/ | Source: Torrent Freak
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11:18 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah i mean
11:18 TR News; Strikes work for workers https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/15/railroad_workers_united_union_contract_strike | Source: Democracy Now
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11:19 highest_cubist_thrills; when i had a samsung galaxy
11:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i used to remove the battery a lot, id even started cutting a hole in the back panel to make it easier to remove :)
11:19 highest_cubist_thrills; the panel came off really easily, i was just working on making it easier
11:19 TR News; Geminis impact soars and the Geminispaces size is still growing; its very reminiscent of the Web of the 90s and now theres this new and collaboratively-edited directory of Gemini capsules http://techrights.org/2022/09/16/gemini-millions-of-pages/
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11:20 highest_cubist_thrills; then the finfisher shit happened and i cancelled my contract
11:20 highest_cubist_thrills; i turned it into a wifi tablet and ultimately gave it away
11:20 TR News; SiFive unveils Automotive E6-A, X280-A, and S7-A RISC-V processors - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/16/sifive-automotive-e6-a-x280-a-and-s7-a-risc-v-processors/ Source: CNX Software | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/16/sifive-automotive-e6-a-x280-a-and-s7-a-risc-v-processors/
11:20 TR Bot; SiFive unveils Automotive E6-A, X280-A, and S7-A RISC-V processors - CNX Software
11:20 highest_cubist_thrills; it was a nice piece of hardware really
11:20 highest_cubist_thrills; and that was about a decade ago!
11:21 TR News; Beetle RP2040 is a tiny Raspberry Pi RP2040 board with easily solderable pads - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/16/beetle-rp2040-tiny-raspberry-pi-rp2040-board-easily-solderable-pads/ Source: CNX Software | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/16/beetle-rp2040-tiny-raspberry-pi-rp2040-board-easily-solderable-pads/
11:21 TR Bot; Beetle RP2040 is a tiny Raspberry Pi RP2040 board with easily solderable pads - CNX Software
11:23 TR News; Amazon Sidewalk network?????????? https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/16/denova-detect-natural-gas-alarm-works-with-amazon-sidewalk-network/
11:23 TR Bot; DeNova Detect natural gas alarm works with Amazon Sidewalk network - CNX Software
11:23 TR News; "Smart City"=smut shitty
11:24 highest_cubist_thrills; phones have come a long way in 10 years
11:24 highest_cubist_thrills; but actually not so much
11:24 highest_cubist_thrills; its kind of shocking
11:31 TR News; (NEW): Proprietary Software and Security Woes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Proprietary_Software_and_Security_Woes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Proprietary_Software_and_Security_Woes.gmi
11:31 TR Bot; Tux Machines Proprietary Software and Security Woes
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11:35 mixling; you know what, if a thinkpad R60 boots with linux-2.4, that's still a decent device, to work with, for another decade or two
11:36 mixling; those thinkpads, didn't have an IntelME, some models are supported by coreboot/libreboot
11:37 mixling; a dual-core with 2GHz something, thats' fast, 3GiB of RAM, suffice, and those laptops aren't expensive
11:37 highest_cubist_thrills; oh as a bonus, i think i found a contrapoints video that al sweigart didnt cofund
11:37 highest_cubist_thrills; its not her fault, but i wouldnt take his money
11:37 highest_cubist_thrills; (dont ask me how shes supposed to know)
11:39 mixling; the power consumption of them, is notably higher, than the ARM SBC i am working with currently
11:39 mixling; i think those hit 30Watts or more, while a cortex a53 is maxed at 5Watts
11:40 mixling; and this, is a notable difference, with the excess energy price explosions in Germany
11:40 highest_cubist_thrills; fossbytes: To strengthen Librem 5 development, Purism has already partnered with open source leaders like GNOME and KDE
11:41 mixling; and there is still some time remaining, to repair linux-2.4 32bit year2038 problem
11:41 highest_cubist_thrills; https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/10/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-librem-5-part-1
11:41 TR Bot; Jay Little - Software Obsessionist - The Sad Saga of Purism and the Librem 5 : Part 1
11:41 mixling; and maybe, once upon a time, IBM Wintel RAND corp. realize, it would be smart to opensource and release documentation for their hardware, beyond what we got with ao486
11:43 mixling; i mean, in the end, the entire industry is approach the dead at all fronts, and when they smash into the brickwall until then i would rather get away as cheap as possible
11:43 mixling; matteobin: a Thinkpad R60 is much cheaper than a x270
11:43 mixling; they're limited to 3GiB RAM maximum though
11:44 mixling; however, if this doesn't suffice, i would rather question what is labeled as "free software" nowadays
11:45 matteobin; I know, but my friend wants to see Netflix on it.
11:47 techuser; they should torrent and not Netflix
11:47 matteobin; I know, but my friend is not like me.
11:48 matteobin; Anyway I'm looking at a R60 on eBay.
11:48 matteobin; Why do you prefer Linux 2.4 to Linux 5?
11:48 TR News; (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Programming_Leftovers.gmi
11:48 TR Bot; Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
11:49 mixling; linux-2.4: much less lines of code, known to compile with tcc-toolchain, no UEFI whatsoever, and linux-2.4 should have all hardware support ready for those think r60 (and similar models)
11:49 TR News; (NEW): Open Hardware: RISC-V, Librem 5, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Librem_5_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Open_Hardware_RISC_V_Librem_5_and_More.gmi
11:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Open Hardware: RISC-V, Librem 5, and More
11:49 TR News; (NEW): Using Python and NetworkManager to control the network http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Using_Python_and_NetworkManager_to_control_the_network.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Using_Python_and_NetworkManager_to_control_the_network.gmi
11:49 TR Bot; Tux Machines Using Python and NetworkManager to control the network
11:50 matteobin; So I gues you don't like Debian. :D
11:50 matteobin; What about NetBSD?
11:50 TR News; (NEW): Linux Devices: Beetle RP204, Official Raspberry Pi Handbook 2023, Jetson, and H96 MAX V58 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Linux_Devices_Beetle_RP204_Official_Raspberry_Pi_Handbook_2023_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Linux_Devices_Beetle_RP204_Official_Raspberry_Pi_Handbook_2023_.gmi
11:50 TR Bot; Tux Machines Linux Devices: Beetle RP204, Official Raspberry Pi Handbook 2023, Jetson, and H96 MAX V58
11:50 mixling; matteobin: only acquire such an R60 if you really need any, and pick one with integrated intel graphics
11:51 matteobin; Why do you say so?
11:51 mixling; then there is different CPUs from intel, Intel Core, and Intel Core2, the latter Core2 support 64bit (which aren't necessary, just saying)
11:51 mixling; matteobin: because such thinkpads are precious to those who do work with them for particular reasons
11:51 matteobin; Got it.
11:52 mixling; and if it's not the niche of yours, instead watching Netfucks, an R60 is absolutely useless
11:52 matteobin; I like the R60, my friend watches Netflix. I don't! :P
11:53 matteobin; What about the MNT Reform?
11:53 matteobin; https://shop.mntmn.com/products/mnt-reform
11:53 TR Bot; MNT Reform Laptop - MNT Research Shop
11:53 mixling; it's expensive
11:53 mixling; however, they bother with "libre firmware" too
11:53 matteobin; But do you like it better than Purism offerings?
11:54 mixling; both, any R60 or the mnt reform laptop are better choices than Purism offerings (whatever those are nowadays, i put recent models onto ignore for many years already)
11:54 TR News; (NEW): IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 170 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/IPFire_2_27_Core_Update_170_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/IPFire_2_27_Core_Update_170_released.gmi
11:54 TR Bot; Tux Machines IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 170 released
11:55 mixling; anyway, all those hardware choices have this in common: it's non-free closed-source RAND corp pentagon stuff
11:55 mixling; at "best" an ao486 SoC on FPGA, without USB and without Ethernet, this is what you get as "free" as in free as in free only
11:55 matteobin; That's sad.
11:57 mixling; anyway, that's why i continue working on tcc-toolchain integration, and GNU-toolchain/buildsystem removal
11:58 mixling; because, GNU-toolchain/buildsystem are painfully slow, when working 100% from source with "free software"
11:59 mixling; and that's reason enough, to dispose most of the shitware such as moz/chrome/webkit... it's almost impossible to compile all this on decent hardware
11:59 mixling; gnu-toolchain, thats several hours, recently llvm/clang added anouther few hours of maximum heat emission
12:00 mixling; that's why i am wondering, who those "software freedom activists" are? don't they at least compile their software from source?
12:00 mixling; if they did, they knew what a pain GNU-toolchain/buildsystem and Mapple LLVM are
12:03 mixling; i am not sure yet, if the R60 is fully supported with linux-2.4
12:04 mixling; the earlier thinkpad models, were all single-core CPUs, which too would suffice for me, however, i'd rather have a dual core cpu
12:07 TR News; (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/today_s_leftovers.gmi
12:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's leftovers
12:07 TR News; (NEW): Canonical/Ubuntu on Clown Computing and Other Buzzwords/Fashionable Marketing ("AIoT") http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Canonical_Ubuntu_on_Clown_Computing_and_Other_Buzzwords_Fashion.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Canonical_Ubuntu_on_Clown_Computing_and_Other_Buzzwords_Fashion.gmi
12:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu on Clown Computing and Other Buzzwords/Fashionable Marketing ("AIoT")
12:07 TR News; (NEW): Red Hat/IBM: Kubernetes, Java, and Working From HomeRed Hat/IBM: Kubernetes, Java, and Working From Home http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Red_Hat_IBM_Kubernetes_Java_and_Working_From_HomeRed_Hat_IBM_Ku.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Red_Hat_IBM_Kubernetes_Java_and_Working_From_HomeRed_Hat_IBM_Ku.gmi
12:07 TR Bot; Tux Machines Red Hat/IBM: Kubernetes, Java, and Working From HomeRed Hat/IBM: Kubernetes, Java, and Working From Home
12:08 TR News; (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/today_s_howtos.gmi
12:08 TR Bot; Tux Machines today's howtos
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12:09 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Android_Leftovers.gmi
12:09 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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12:12 matteobin; I try to be a Software Freedom activist!
12:12 matteobin; Even if I use Windows because of work.
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12:12 matteobin; But I'm trying to find a new job.
12:12 matteobin; :d
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12:12 matteobin; *:D
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12:13 TR News; Links 16/09/2022: Peropesis 1.7 and IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 170 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/16/peropesis-1-7/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/16/peropesis-1-7/
12:13 TR Bot; Links 16/09/2022: Peropesis 1.7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 170 | Techrights
12:13 matteobin; What do you think of SCC, Simple C Compiler?
12:15 matteobin; https://git.simple-cc.org/scc/file/README.html
12:15 TR Bot; README - scc - simple c99 compiler
12:17 TR News; "smart displays. Theyre basically speakers too" - they are MASS surveillance devices and bugs. Society needs to mock, ridicule, berate people who buy or spread these (as "gifts") https://www.maketecheasier.com/smart-home/choosing-best-smart-display/
12:17 TR Bot; The Ultimate Guide to Choosing Your Next Smart Display - Make Tech Easier
12:18 TR News; "Corporate Subscriptions" https://www.phoronix.com/news/Oktoberfest-Sale-2022 can they pay in CPUs?
12:18 TR Bot; Oktoberfest Special Begins, Premium Now Accept Stripe & Corporate Subscriptions Available - Phoronix
12:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
12:22 TR News; Espionage. If that was Assange, they'd kill him. https://truthout.org/articles/trump-admits-to-taking-government-docs-but-claims-he-declassified-them/ | Source: TruthOut
12:22 TR Bot; Trump Admits to Taking Government Docs, But Claims He Declassified Them
12:23 TR News; Unionised = more powerful https://truthout.org/articles/minor-league-baseball-players-are-unionized-for-the-first-time-in-history/ | Source: TruthOut
12:23 TR Bot; Minor League Baseball Players are Unionized for the First Time in History
12:23 TR News; Preparing to lock people up like cattle, while feeding them toxins? https://truthout.org/articles/across-the-midwest-counties-are-building-new-jails-on-toxic-land/ | Source: TruthOut
12:23 TR Bot; Across the Midwest, Counties Are Building New Jails on Toxic Land
12:24 TR News; When incarceration is death https://truthout.org/articles/human-rights-groups-urge-un-to-call-for-abolition-of-death-by-incarceration/ | Source: TruthOut
12:24 TR Bot; Human Rights Groups Urge UN to Call for Abolition of Death by Incarceration
12:24 TR News; Galdeano https://hackaday.com/2022/09/15/2022-cyberdeck-contest-the-galdeano-is-more-than-a-graphing-calculator/ | Source: Hackaday
12:24 TR Bot; Cyberdeck Contest: The Galdeano Is More Than A Graphing Calculator | Hackaday
12:25 TR News; Entering The Nocturnal Aftermath Entering The Nocturnal Aftermath
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12:28 TR News; "This is a product of not having enough new blood at the top." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/progressives-slam-absolutely-unacceptable-punt-congressional-stock-trading-ban | Source: Common Dreams
12:28 TR Bot; Progressives Slam 'Absolutely Unacceptable' Punt of Congressional Stock Trading Ban
12:30 TR News; Can US Democracy Survive This Fall? No, it's a loaded question. The US does not have a democracy. Nothing to 'survive'... it's all controlled by billionaires. https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/can-us-democracy-survive-fall | Source: Common Dreams
12:30 TR Bot; Opinion | Can US Democracy Survive This Fall? | Amy Goodman
12:31 TR News; US prepares to start another war. Wants to carry on selling weapons (e.g. Taiwan) after Ukraine. The only thing US still manufactures and sells. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/anti-war-voices-warn-us-bill-taiwan-will-make-war-much-more-likely | Source: Common Dreams
12:31 TR Bot; Anti-War Voices Warn US Bill on Taiwan 'Will Make War Much More Likely'
12:31 TR News; Ukraine isn't winning. It's just US using the locals as weapon operators. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/report-warns-us-militarized-response-russia-could-provoke-nuclear-war | Source: Common Dreams
12:31 TR Bot; Report Warns US Militarized Response to Russia Could Provoke Nuclear War
12:33 TR News; People Worldwide Name US as a Major Threat to World Peace. Heres Why. https://truthout.org/articles/people-worldwide-name-us-as-a-major-threat-to-world-peace-heres-why/ https://www.visionofhumanity.org/maps/
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12:33 TR Bot; People Worldwide Name US as a Major Threat to World Peace. Here's Why.
12:33 TR Bot; Global Peace Index Map The Most & Least Peaceful Countries
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12:34 TR News; The United States of America as a Sacrifice Zone https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/united-states-america-sacrifice-zone | Source: Common Dreams
12:34 TR Bot; Opinion | The United States of America as a Sacrifice Zone | Rev. Dr. Liz Theoharis
12:35 TR News; Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. Russia has nukes. At best, Ukraine can convince Russia to stop the invasion.
12:36 TR News; BEUC and greenwashing https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/expert-groups-resign-protest-over-crass-greenwashing-eu-climate-panel | Source: Common Dreams
12:36 TR Bot; Expert Groups Resign in Protest Over 'Crass Greenwashing' of EU Climate Panel
12:36 TR News; "the fossil fuel industry has 'greenwashed' its record" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/thats-fraud-explosive-docs-reveal-depth-climate-lies-big-oil-ahead-house-hearing | Source: Common Dreams
12:36 TR Bot; 'That's Fraud': Explosive Docs Reveal Depth of Climate Lies by Big Oil Ahead of House Hearing
12:39 TR News; Linux Foundation continues to 'legitimise' unethical things like surveillance and even outright frauds by lending the Linux Mark to them; it harms Linux https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/12/Facebook_Openwashing_via_the_Linux_Foundation.shtml
12:39 TR Bot; Tux Machines Facebook Openwashing via the Linux Foundation (UPDATEDx6)
12:40 mixling; matteobin: with SCC, the provided libc contains assembly, which any assembler needs to digest
12:40 TR News; Valve inadvertently shows off the Steam Deck Dock @ Tokyo Game Show (plus other Deck news) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U-VMCludH1M | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/U-VMCludH1M
12:40 TR Bot; Valve inadvertently shows off the Steam Deck Dock @ Tokyo Game Show (plus other Deck news) - Invidious
12:40 mixling; hence the question is, what you think about the assembler (binutils?) for this
12:41 mixling; because without an assembler, you'll have nothing with scc and it's libc
12:41 mixling; and i don't want any GNU-toolchain no more
12:42 TR News; Teachers https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/justice-teachers-strike-started-red-wave | Source: Common Dreams
12:42 TR Bot; Opinion | Justice for Teachers: The Strike That Started the Red Wave | Jackson Potter
12:42 mixling; binutils and their gas assembler
12:42 matteobin; Got it!
12:42 matteobin; Thanks.
12:42 TR News; Well, capitalism works great! Just not for many people... https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/15/its-time-acknowledge-endless-growth-model-under-capitalism-unsustainable | Source: Common Dreams
12:42 TR Bot; Opinion | It's Time to Acknowledge the Endless Growth Model Under Capitalism Is Unsustainable | John Feffer
12:43 TR News; Is Taiwan a US colony? https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-pressures-taiwan-to-ban-pirate-tv-boxes-but-chinas-not-too-interested-220915/ | Source: Torrent Freak
12:43 TR Bot; Pressured Taiwan to Ban Pirate TV Boxes But China's Not Too Interested * TorrentFreak
12:43 TR News; Let China sell weapons to Hawaii to "protect" itself from Washington. See how Americans like it...
12:44 TR News; Maybe Xi can pay a visit to Gabbard in Hawaii and see how Washington reacts. Microsoft Pelosi isn't a liberal, she's a corrupt corporate hawk which puts off leftist voters.
12:45 TR News; Wage theft https://truthout.org/video/for-decades-rail-executives-have-raked-in-record-profits-at-workers-expense/ | Source: TruthOut
12:45 TR Bot; For Decades, Rail Executives Have Raked in Record Profits at Workers' Expense
12:47 TR News; What Bidens mean to people with less than $100,000,000 in the bank https://truthout.org/articles/bidens-actions-are-a-start-but-the-us-is-still-sacrificing-poor-people/ | Source: TruthOut
12:47 TR Bot; Biden's Actions Are a Start, But the US Is Still Sacrificing Poor People
12:49 TR News; Putin's bloodied palms; "the site contained approximately 440 bodies. He said that some of the people were killed intentionally while others were killed by artillery fire and airstrikes." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/16/mass-grave-containing-more-than-440-people-found-in-izyum
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12:49 TR News; "The war in Ukraine has caused Russian officials to start drinking more than ever" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/15/they-ve-taken-to-the-bottle | Source: Meduza
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12:50 TR News; "The Russian government is implementing a major budget sequester after the countrys largest revenue slump since at least 2011." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/15/russian-government-to-cut-spending-by-10-percent-after-summer-revenue-slump | Source: Meduza
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12:52 TR News; If Russia is in a weak position, the West should try to reach a peace deal with Russia, but that would 'spoil' the weapon sales. Cornering Russia just means nuclear war. Everyone loses. WAR IS A RACKET. Arrest the people who protect this racket.
12:53 TR News; Debt kills https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/15/they-re-mostly-after-loans | Source: Meduza
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12:54 TR News; St. Petersburg https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/15/st-petersburg-court-fines-municipal-deputies-who-called-for-putin-s-removal | Source: Meduza
12:54 TR Bot; NO TITLE
12:54 bnchs; >The war in Ukraine has caused Russian officials to start drinking more than ever
12:54 bnchs; drinking drowns out the pain
12:55 bnchs; therefore it's good for now
12:55 schestowitz[TR]; some people drink to celebrate
12:56 TR News; Russia's regime will have no support from Russians when they find out https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/15/you-are-weaklings-waging-a-war-against-civilians-says-zelensky-in-response-to-russian-missile-strikes-in-kryvyi-rih | Source: Meduza
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12:56 TR News; "The Ukrainian president's motorcade was involved in an accident in Kyiv on the night of September 15, 2022." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/15/zelensky-s-motorcade-involved-in-accident-in-kyiv | Source: Meduza
12:56 TR Bot; NO TITLE
12:57 TR News; Oops? https://thegrayzone.com/2022/09/15/zelensky-bodyguards-hitler-patch/ | Source: The Gray Zone
12:57 TR Bot; Zelensky quietly deletes photo of his bodyguards pro-Hitler patch - The Grayzone
12:57 TR News; GNU/Linux-based Pi https://hackaday.com/2022/09/15/a-rpi-hat-for-synchronized-measurements/ | Source: Hackaday
12:57 TR Bot; RPI HAT For Synchronized Measurements | Hackaday
12:58 TR News; The trademark maximalists https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/uk-restaurant-threatens-other-uk-restaurant-over-trademark-on-taqueria/ | Source: Techdirt
12:58 TR Bot; Restaurant Threatens Other UK Restaurant Over Trademark On Taqueria | Techdirt
12:58 TR News; Safety? It's not about that. Safety of the oligarchs, maybe... https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/uk-pressing-forward-with-online-safety-bill/ | Source: Techdirt
12:58 TR Bot; Pressing Forward With Online Safety Bill | Techdirt
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 79.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 160.23
12:59 TR News; Surveillance companies like these should be rejected entirely; they ought not even exist. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/instagrams-flopping-tiktok-knockoff-reels-shows-that-big-companies-cant-just-copy-their-way-to-success/ | Source: Techdirt
12:59 TR Bot; Flopping TikTok Knockoff, Reels, Shows That Big Companies Cant Just Copy Their Way To Success | Techdirt
13:00 TR News; Facebook is a mass surveillance system with a Web interface and an "app" for people to enter data about themselves
13:00 TR News; Copyright Office https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/even-the-copyright-office-doesnt-want-what-the-jcpa-is-selling/ | Source: Techdirt
13:00 TR Bot; The Copyright Office Doesnt Want What The JCPA Is Selling | Techdirt
13:19 psydruid; binutils and the gas assassin
13:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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13:23 psydruid; > [notice] Phoronix Oktoberfest Special Begins, Premium Now Accept Stripe & Corporate Subscriptions Available - Phoronix
13:23 psydruid; All hail the new AMD CPUs, which cause older but still very useful AMD CPUs to become available at much lower prices. AMDronix will never say that, of course.
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17:49 TR News; Newsom https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/gavin-newsom-fucks-over-the-open-internet-signs-disastrously-stupid-age-appropriate-design-code/ | Source: Techdirt
17:49 TR Bot; Newsom Fucks Over The Open Internet, Signs Disastrously Stupid Age Appropriate Design Code | Techdirt
17:49 TR News; "Just a somewhat periodic reminder: publicly-funded colleges are government entities. Almost every public university is." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/court-to-public-university-yeah-its-a-1st-amendment-problem-when-you-delete-comments-you-dont-like/ | Source: Techdirt
17:49 TR Bot; To Public University: Yeah, Its A 1st Amendment Problem When You Delete Comments You Dont Like | Techdirt
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; <psydruid> All hail the new AMD CPUs, which cause older but still very useful AMD CPUs to become available at much lower prices. AMDronix will never say that, of course.
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; I know what corporate subscriptions means
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; from the patent sites
17:50 schestowitz[TR]; it's when law firms want to bribe the poublisher
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; in exchange for PR and stuff
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; so you say to them,
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; you can buy paywall exceptionss for your firm
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; they say yes
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; pass you a wad of money
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; and then they pay for the PR services
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; but they write it down as subscription
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; iot's a way of passing a bribe in a sense
17:51 schestowitz[TR]; I emntioned this in many videos alojgng the way
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; it's a moral and legal shield
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; you claim to have sold them a service
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; eanother one is,
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; buyinjg many copies of a book in advance
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; like,
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft tells jono bacon
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; write a book
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; say microsot has changes
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; we'll buy 1000 copies in advance
17:52 schestowitz[TR]; i.e. pay about $20,000
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; and then give your propagands of ours to 1000 of our staff
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; the point is to bribe for misleading books
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; this gets done a lot
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; i can smell this from a distance; wasn't born eysterday...
17:53 starstreak; Jono Bacon wrote a book praising microsoft?
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; then they have the "awards" scam
17:53 schestowitz[TR]; like, they make a tier of "recommended" firms and lawyers
17:54 schestowitz[TR]; and don't tell you that they pay to be listed
17:54 schestowitz[TR]; and then use these "awards" in their web sites to make them seem more respectable to piotentrial, prospective cliennts
17:54 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: he published a BOOK
17:54 schestowitz[TR]; and it was endorsed by microsoft
17:54 schestowitz[TR]; upon launch
17:55 schestowitz[TR]; he has a nose for money
17:55 schestowitz[TR]; and is a phony
17:55 starstreak; did he actually praise microsoft in the book?
17:55 schestowitz[TR]; after brown-nosing mark shuittleowrth (ms) he did the same for microsoft
17:55 schestowitz[TR]; starstreak: I didn't read it
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; but from the endorsements you can smell what happened there
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; he also worked for github
17:56 starstreak; yeah exactly
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; he confronted me for criticising microsoft
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; after the novell deal
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; as if anyone thought it was a good idea
17:56 starstreak; jono confronted you?
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17:56 schestowitz[TR]; he was here in thsi channel for years, too
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; spying on us, like mjg59_
17:56 schestowitz[TR]; and jperlow was here also
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; drpizzla
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; all sorts of microsofters
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; even microsoft employes (current)
17:57 starstreak; i always wondered why people like bacon and mjg59_ hang out in here when everyone hates them
17:57 starstreak; but then again a lot of people hate me too
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; it's easier to stab people in the back
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; whenn you stand behind them
17:57 starstreak; isn't drpizza a pedophile?
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; yes
17:57 schestowitz[TR]; he came here to confront us
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17:58 schestowitz[TR]; he even used the nickname "drpizza"
17:58 starstreak; i remember his nickname
17:58 starstreak; from years ago when i was here before
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; we didn't know yet he was raping kids
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ will never mention drpizza
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; or graveley
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; or bill gates
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17:58 schestowitz[TR]; they are protected minorities
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; frew up rich
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; white
17:58 schestowitz[TR]; he would rather pick on finns and rms
17:58 starstreak; i had microsoft worshipping employer who was into kids, kept making lewd comments while i was doing deployments
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; you said that lasdt night
17:59 starstreak; yeah
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; you could report him
17:59 starstreak; i didnt have any evidence
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft has a big peedo issue
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; on many level
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; but I don't want to start talking about it here
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; they even tried to censor me
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; saying they had changed
17:59 starstreak; yeah makes sense, it takes away from the message too
17:59 schestowitz[TR]; and that me pointing out how they chased little girls hurt their feelings
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; even when hwe have police cocs
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; mjg59_ has noi police docs
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; on TL
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; on RMS
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; he makes staff upo
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; and runs a bot army with other losers in that fake site
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; to do a libel swarm
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; we have actual police files
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; the brigade ignores verifiable evidence
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; because it would be wrong to pick on poor bill gates
18:00 schestowitz[TR]; and millionaires like graveley
18:01 schestowitz[TR]; until they suffocate like a dozen girls
18:01 schestowitz[TR]; maybe then they will look away from reiser
18:01 starstreak; reiser was hilarious, they caught him with books in his car
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18:02 starstreak; books about evading investigations i think
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; he was smart about coding
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; dumb about anything else
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; and it was not hilarious
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; it's creepy
18:02 starstreak; lol
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; he cut his own sife to pieces
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; *wife
18:02 schestowitz[TR]; dr. nina
18:03 starstreak; i have a morbid sense of humor i guess
18:03 starstreak; hes like Dexter i guess
18:03 starstreak; i forgot that he told them where to find the pieces
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; but remember why
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; plea bargain or something
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; reduce sentence
18:04 starstreak; yeah
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; he tried to get out early a couple of years ago
18:04 schestowitz[TR]; was denied
18:05 starstreak; thats the only reason why you would give away evidence against yourself
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; mayeb brave will recruit him
18:05 starstreak; LOL
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; the braveFS
18:05 schestowitz[TR]; to "own the libs"
18:05 starstreak; wait brave has a file system now?
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; they support ipfs
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; but it is not a real filesystem
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; just a virtual, networked one
18:06 starstreak; oh you were kidding when u said braveFS
18:06 starstreak; as if the browser wasn't already bloated enough
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of people I see who recommend brave are not my cup of teea
18:06 schestowitz[TR]; tbh
18:06 DaemonFC; mjg59_ has a blog that does a "stop and frisk" of your browser with JavaShit.
18:06 starstreak; mincer recommends it lol
18:07 starstreak; i was using brave but i switched back to firefox
18:07 DaemonFC; Probably looking for vulnerabilities to exploit and running fingerprinting attacks.
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; enough said ;-)
18:07 DaemonFC; No wonder he likes Dreamwidth.
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; i like MinceR
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; but he has a dark sense of speech/attitude
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; a lot of brave users online seem to be "libertarian", like DaemonFC said
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; free speech and all that
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; typically it turns out they support bigotry
18:07 schestowitz[TR]; but it's sppun as "Freedom"
18:08 starstreak; yeah Brandon Eich is a homophobe i found out
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; to them it's a feature
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; join the other "victim"
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; Dreamwidth.
18:08 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC: imagination..
18:09 DaemonFC; The SPLC tracks Brave users as a "hate group", which is too much.
18:09 DaemonFC; "Extremist software!"
18:09 schestowitz[TR]; yeah, unfair
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; microsoft is worse
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; and look at bill gatees
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; actual criminal
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; eich did not break any law
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; (aaik)
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; "i can't get off dreamsidth... can't get my fist round it either"
18:10 DaemonFC; At least not any law in the United States.
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; wait
18:10 schestowitz[TR]; by pakistani law
18:10 DaemonFC; People like mjg59_ aren't Americans and never will be because they don't support freedom of speech.
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; maybe the ones who fired him broke the law
18:11 DaemonFC; They don't accept the results of elections they don't like.
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; remember homosexuality is punishablle byd eath in about half a dozen nations
18:11 DaemonFC; They don't accept that not everyone agrees with them. Not agreeing with mjg59_ should mean life imprisonment or something, I suppose.
18:11 MinceR; brave seems to improve on chromium
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; most do
18:11 MinceR; while failfox is an inferior chromium clone
18:11 starstreak; being trans is also punishable by death in some places
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; chromium is a base for malwaree
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; chrome
18:11 MinceR; and there is not much else
18:11 schestowitz[TR]; chrome is the business mode
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; improving upon mlaware is easy
18:12 MinceR; as far as browsers for the "modern" web go
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; like librewolf vs firefox
18:12 MinceR; does librewolf support ALSA officially?
18:12 DaemonFC; Malware whose primary aim is to be a development platform for making more malware and a platform to run the malware.
18:12 DaemonFC; Like iOS.
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; they all it web bnecause it's a mess like a web
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; open page, get 30 domains, run 50 scripts obfuscated
18:12 schestowitz[TR]; open 10,000 system files and 100 sdockets
18:13 MinceR; afaict Eich is a terrible person, but he's far better at leading a browser project than the people mozilla installed in his place
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; eich spoke to me many times over the years via social control media
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; not sure how terrible he really is
18:13 MinceR; mozilla should have made sure the replacements are competent enough, but they didn't
18:13 schestowitz[TR]; on some things you won't agree with him
18:14 schestowitz[TR]; but on a lot of things, esp, technical, he was excellent, still is
18:15 DaemonFC; MinceRmozilla should have made sure the replacements are competent enough, but they didn't
18:16 DaemonFC; A lawyer who is effectively embezzling while calling for Web censorship. Mitchell Baker. mjg59_ likes people like her.
18:16 DaemonFC; "If you're good enough, you can do it right in front of people." -Eric Cartman on "cheating"
18:16 DaemonFC; Embezzlement is a form of cheating.
18:17 DaemonFC; "If you get caught, you just do what white people do. Say 'I misinterpreted the rules!'."
18:17 TR News; "Top brass at the railroads were willing to have a strike and plunge the nation back into supply chain hell." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/railway-workers-fight-shows-need-paid-sick-and-family-leave-says-economist | Source: Common Dreams
18:18 DaemonFC; Baker consolidated so much power over Mozilla that she can just double her pay every year or so while they lose another half of their users.
18:18 TR News; "This contract will not become final until our members have an opportunity to review its terms and approve it through a ratification vote" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/09/15/rail-unions-stress-tentative-deal-must-still-win-approval-rank-and-file | Source: Common Dreams
18:18 TR News; "Early in the morning on September 15, negotiators from unions representing nearly 60,000 rail workers reached a tentative agreement with the nations rail carriers" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/rail-worker-union-agreement/ | Source: The Nation
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18:19 schestowitz[TR]; it's like florina at hp
18:19 schestowitz[TR]; it gives this false impression women cannot manage
18:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
18:20 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Biden inserted himself into the middle of this hoping people would heap praise on him if we just didn't have another in a long long line of avoidable catastrophes unfold under his watch.
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; also bartzmer (yahoo), mayer (yahoo),greene (vmware)...
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; that creates a bad stigma
18:20 DaemonFC; But otherwise, he had nothing to do with the rail contract.
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; and does not nhelp
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; ginii (imb)
18:20 schestowitz[TR]; virginia (icbm)
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18:21 TR News; "When you imagine 3D printed art, its easy to envision the different kinds of sculptures and figurines posted online" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/15/a-2d-image-makes-a-3d-print/ | Source: Hackaday
18:21 TR Bot; 2D Image Makes A 3D Print | Hackaday
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18:25 TR News; "Sometimes when you need a component, the best way to get it is by building it yourself." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/15/making-variable-capacitors-by-stretching-aluminium-cans/ | Source: Hackaday
18:25 TR Bot; Variable Capacitors By Stretching Aluminium Cans | Hackaday
18:26 TR News; "special military operation" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/15/the-special-military-operation-turned-into-warfare-long-ago | Source: Meduza
18:26 TR Bot; NO TITLE
18:28 highest_cubist_thrills; afaict Eich is a terrible person, but he's far better at leading a browser project <- is he even a terrible person, other than being in a stupid cult?
18:28 highest_cubist_thrills; like its not rhetorical, what else did he actually do
18:28 highest_cubist_thrills; i know about the giving to a charity thats against gay rights
18:28 highest_cubist_thrills; thats because hes a fucking mormon
18:29 highest_cubist_thrills; and the world will never forgive him for javascript, but thats just poor design choices (and it could be worse-- he could have written php)
18:29 highest_cubist_thrills; zeppelin: poor design choices
18:30 highest_cubist_thrills; afaik he didnt decide to create asm.js (maybe he did idk) thats just a side effect of his horrible horrible horrible decisions
18:30 highest_cubist_thrills; /me fills his browser with compressed hydrogen, what could go wrong
18:30 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> zeppelin: poor design choices
18:31 schestowitz[TR]; sheela zelppelin
18:31 highest_cubist_thrills; heh
18:31 highest_cubist_thrills; i blame herr doktor for the zeppelin
18:31 schestowitz[TR]; here she goes...
18:31 schestowitz[TR]; boom
18:31 highest_cubist_thrills; fingers crossed
18:32 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> Jono Bacon wrote a book praising microsoft?
18:32 highest_cubist_thrills; jono bacon, the architect of fake community and cancel culture
18:32 highest_cubist_thrills; in the future some people will be part robot (like half)
18:32 schestowitz[TR]; openrespect
18:32 MinceR; i thought Mitchell was a male name
18:32 highest_cubist_thrills; hes half corporation (he/inc)
18:32 schestowitz[TR]; zeppelin: respect MICREOSOFT
18:32 schestowitz[TR]; only 1-2 years apart
18:33 schestowitz[TR]; after jono bacon did a show with many curse words
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought Mitchell was a male name <- it doesnt bother me that shes trans
18:33 schestowitz[TR]; lecturing us on respect
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; everything else otoh
18:33 MinceR; :>
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; after jono bacon did a show with many curse words <- ok boomer
18:33 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I'm not quite sure why you suggest that Taiwan should be conquered by the Communists.
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; jono bacon is offensive, but its for everything but the swearing
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; then again some of it was probably abusive
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; aimed at innocent people
18:33 highest_cubist_thrills; so theres that
18:33 DaemonFC; The Communists have never controlled Taiwan and the people of Taiwan want no part of being controlled by the PRC, or more correctly, their dictator Xi.
18:34 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe he will fucking kill google
18:34 highest_cubist_thrills; and throw a chair like his sith lord
18:34 DaemonFC; If the Communists took it over, life would become absolutely miserable there.
18:34 highest_cubist_thrills; there are always two, the master and the apprentice
18:34 DaemonFC; The Communists claim they lifted people out of poverty, although most saw what the cost of that was.
18:34 DaemonFC; Their environment is ruined. They murdered or starved millions.
18:35 highest_cubist_thrills; "whats your name baby"
18:35 DaemonFC; Their regime is oppressive against damned near everyone who lives under it and relies on brainwashing and fear to keep people in line.
18:35 highest_cubist_thrills; gorgeos blonde: "irving"
18:35 highest_cubist_thrills; "ahh, irving baby, nice to meet you"
18:35 highest_cubist_thrills; (breakfast at tiffanys, paraphrased)
18:36 DaemonFC; Things aren't perfect for everyone in non-Communist countries, but people here more or less tend to whine about first world problems.
18:36 highest_cubist_thrills; theyll never remake it, but they couldnt if they wanted to
18:36 DaemonFC; Like the inconvenience if the store is out of a particular brand of toilet paper that week.
18:37 DaemonFC; Nevermind the fact that there's an entire aisle with 47 other brands that are fine and the Communist state-owned industry doesn't produce what people want at all, because the concept of a demand economy eludes them.
18:38 DaemonFC; Communist countries are pretty much notable for inefficiency, rampant pollution, hunger, and being unable and unwilling to meet the basic needs of the population.
18:39 starstreak; I used brave because it was the best chrome based browser but do I really want to make some homophobe rich?
18:39 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> i always wondered why people like bacon and mjg59_ hang out in here when everyone hates them <- he and roy troll each other constantly
18:39 DaemonFC; Even though Communism promises that there will be a baseline living standard, it can't even meet that no matter how low the bar is set.
18:39 highest_cubist_thrills; now, roy might have the moral high ground here
18:39 DaemonFC; And somehow there's always a class system that develops anyway, complete with income inequality.
18:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i find most of their games amusing
18:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont sympathise with mjg, ive made that abundantly clear to him
18:40 DaemonFC; Matt GULAG
18:40 DaemonFC; King of Bullshit
18:40 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont think everything roy says is necessarily accurate...
18:41 highest_cubist_thrills; and that taunts the shit out of mjg
18:41 highest_cubist_thrills; so no one should be surprised that hes here
18:41 highest_cubist_thrills; ask ariadne, who has wondered aloud why roy insists on baiting him
18:41 TR News; Fidesz https://telex.hu/english/2022/09/15/fidesz-reactions-to-the-ep-ruling-a-disregard-for-the-free-will-of-the-hungarian-people | Source: Telex (Hungary)
18:41 TR Bot; Telex: Fidesz reactions to the EP ruling: a disregard for the free will of the Hungarian people
18:42 highest_cubist_thrills; but since mjg was on the frontlines of the coup, even before it officially started
18:42 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, mutual trolling?
18:42 schestowitz[TR]; DaemonFC baits, not me
18:42 schestowitz[TR]; I usually focus on writing posts on issues du jour
18:42 schestowitz[TR]; like pluton
18:42 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: Now Liz Trump proposes scrapping the cap on bank executive pay.
18:42 highest_cubist_thrills; plutin :)
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; blau-punkt
18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; I usually focus on writing posts on issues du jour <- if you say so
18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; usually is such a great word
18:43 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: MOAR homeless spikes.
18:43 DaemonFC; We don't even have homeless spikes.
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; his presence here is a shadow
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; same for drpizza
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; and jonobacon
18:43 schestowitz[TR]; they come here as dself-appointing 'moral police'
18:43 highest_cubist_thrills; but since mjg was on the frontlines of the coup, even before it officially started https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/
18:43 TR Bot; Is LibrePlanet Safe?
18:44 schestowitz[TR]; it's not a coincidence
18:44 highest_cubist_thrills; they come here as dself-appointing 'moral police' <- thats sort of true
18:44 DaemonFC; I would say why I think mjg59_'s hair is falling out.
18:44 schestowitz[TR]; then they report back to shitter
18:44 DaemonFC; But it calls for speculation.
18:44 highest_cubist_thrills; also true, ive seen them do it
18:44 schestowitz[TR]; posting lies from their toilet throne
18:44 highest_cubist_thrills; and you do everything on your part to deescalate that :)
18:44 schestowitz[TR]; to make it 'feel' like techrights is pro-rape
18:44 highest_cubist_thrills; lol
18:45 schestowitz[TR]; or anti-trand or something
18:45 schestowitz[TR]; even though in the past decades we alkways hve several trans people ehee, maybe 3-5
18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> highest_cubist_thrills, mutual trolling? <- maybe not tit-for-tat
18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; but lots of tits, and lots of tats
18:45 schestowitz[TR]; ii.e. 5-10%
18:45 schestowitz[TR]; unlike the general population with less under 1%
18:45 starstreak; i love tits
18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; even though in the past decades we alkways hve several trans people ehee, maybe 3-5 <- i mean everybody has trans people
18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; even the nazis
18:45 highest_cubist_thrills; though i cant think of a single trans nazi atm
18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; i am quite sure they have a couple
18:46 DaemonFC; mjg59_ blames Kiwi Farms for trans suicides. Trans suicides are much higher anyway.
18:46 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: it was the first group they ncame from , iirc, after disabled people
18:46 schestowitz[TR]; many disabled people were trans too
18:46 DaemonFC; Doubt Kiwi Farms made anyone dump gasoline and light themselves on fire.
18:46 starstreak; i would blame kiwi farms for trans suicides
18:46 DaemonFC; But I digress.
18:46 schestowitz[TR]; aktion-x
18:46 DaemonFC; That's something that only a fucking crazy person would do.
18:46 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> i would blame kiwi farms for trans suicides <- the evidence supports this imo
18:47 highest_cubist_thrills; it would be useful to have a number of trans suicides that were baited by kf
18:47 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, exactly
18:47 highest_cubist_thrills; i would expect it to be more than 1
18:47 highest_cubist_thrills; complicating this is i dont know if every non-binary also identifies as trans, but some do
18:47 schestowitz[TR]; twitter and FB helped trump insurrection
18:47 schestowitz[TR]; far more than parlker did
18:48 schestowitz[TR]; but the media distoprted that narrative
18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; calling social media a dumpster fire is a little unfair to dumpster fires
18:48 schestowitz[TR]; and threw one of the lesser culprits under the bus
18:48 DaemonFC; The government wanted it to happen to justify more power grabs.
18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; ive seen a dumpster fire, or i saw what it did to the side of an apartment building
18:48 highest_cubist_thrills; social media is worse
18:49 TR News; telecoms are vicious and arrogant https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/15/surprise-telecom-giants-are-exploiting-state-corruption-to-undeservingly-funnel-a-disproportionate-chunk-of-the-massive-broadband-infrastructure-stimulus-to-themselves/ | Source: Techdirt
18:49 TR Bot; Telecom Giants Are Exploiting State Corruption To Undeservingly Funnel A Disproportionate Chunk Of The Massive Broadband Infrastructure Stimulus To Themselves | Techdirt
18:49 highest_cubist_thrills; its more like what happens to forests in california in the dry season
18:52 TR News; "Were this claim valid, one would see moral decay paired with increased crime rates." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/attack-on-religious-liberty/ | Source: Counter Punch
18:52 TR Bot; on Religious Liberty? - CounterPunch.org
18:52 DaemonFC; By trying to crimethink everything, people like mjg59_ just make people dig in.
18:52 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> twitter and FB helped trump insurrection <- lots of unleaerned lessons here
18:52 highest_cubist_thrills; people organise online, for good or bad
18:52 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> its more like what happens to forests in california in the dry season << I though defunct electric lines played a role, too
18:52 highest_cubist_thrills; thats likely to remain a reality
18:52 DaemonFC; They've done more to set back the progress on the things they say they care about than anyone.
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; people can organise afainst things like jan 6
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; but they wont stop social media from making it possible
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; <highest_cubist_thrills> thats likely to remain a reality
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; not the point
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; they do moderation
18:53 DaemonFC; Disney is being lampooned for remaking everything and putting a black woman in the lead.
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; and the state clearly wont either
18:53 DaemonFC; It is all a bit much.
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; whetheer it's good or bad, leave it aside for the mo
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> they do moderation <- yeah everything in moderation
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; including moderation
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; I reported to twitter people who call for viollence
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; twiutter did nothing
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; the thing is
18:53 DaemonFC; I don't think anyone minds it occasionally, but like, Star Trek....
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; inc. people who called for the jan 6th coupo
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; I reported
18:53 schestowitz[TR]; nothing happened
18:53 highest_cubist_thrills; during wwii, when alan turing cracked enigma
18:53 DaemonFC; All of a sudden EVERYONE in the Federation high command is black?
18:54 DaemonFC; This isn't even remotely believable.
18:54 highest_cubist_thrills; they started listening to all the german plans
18:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and deciding when and what to do
18:54 highest_cubist_thrills; allowing some things to happen unhindered
18:54 highest_cubist_thrills; to preserve the ability to go after bigger problems and larger targets
18:54 highest_cubist_thrills; thats clearly what will happen with twitter
18:54 DaemonFC; Then to make it funny, they cast Stacy Abrams (the black woman who ran for Governor of Georgia a bunch of times and failed and will again this year) as the President of the Federation.
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; yes, I red that story
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; it as not turing
18:54 highest_cubist_thrills; and why something like jan 6 continued to be planned online
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; byt the britisdh gov.
18:54 schestowitz[TR]; they also helped stalin cracked enigma iirc
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; well thats a silly quibble
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; he was working for them, he was under their authority
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; so they decided, and he complied
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont blame him for htis
18:55 schestowitz[TR]; enigama was shit... the sixel doktors thought using linux 2.4 kernel on engiga would fool techs
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; tbh it was a good strategy
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont love it
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; no one does
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; but whats the alternative
18:55 schestowitz[TR]; nsa does the same
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; its beside the point though, that this is why twitter WONT be moderated
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; nsa does the same <- of course
18:55 highest_cubist_thrills; the intelligence community hasnt changed THAT much
18:55 schestowitz[TR]; I'm not sure the source of that story is accurate
18:56 schestowitz[TR]; could be selective and biased
18:56 highest_cubist_thrills; again, the point is theyll continue to allow nazis to use twitter to organise
18:56 highest_cubist_thrills; and when they stop it...
18:56 schestowitz[TR]; iirc, the movie they made about it suggested russians had been informed
18:56 highest_cubist_thrills; it will be because the nazis have moved on
18:56 schestowitz[TR]; but I'm not sure it's true or how accurtae it is
18:56 schestowitz[TR]; nice plot twist though
18:56 highest_cubist_thrills; they always put an end to things that have already ended
18:56 highest_cubist_thrills; it makes it look like they give a shit
18:56 schestowitz[TR]; "based on a true story.."
18:57 schestowitz[TR]; "... optimised forf box office "ENGAGEMENT"".
18:57 *horseface has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
18:57 highest_cubist_thrills; no, hollywood is the final word on historical events and especially details
18:57 schestowitz[TR]; sponsored by...
18:58 schestowitz[TR]; advisaed by..
18:58 MinceR; https://apina.biz/191063.png?mode=sfw
18:58 schestowitz[TR]; .produced by...
18:58 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-http://apina.biz/191063.png
18:58 highest_cubist_thrills; too bad it isnt bollywood though. imagine shah rukh khan and deepika padukone dancing to the story of alan turing
18:58 highest_cubist_thrills; with a great bhangra beat
18:58 schestowitz[TR]; the spicy who loved me
18:58 highest_cubist_thrills; hai hai
18:59 TR News; "build a culture of peace and active nonviolence, free from war, poverty, racism" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/we-have-a-violence-problem-campaign-nonviolence-strives-to-solve-it/ | Source: Counter Punch
18:59 TR Bot; Have a Violence Problem - Campaign Nonviolence Strives to Solve It - CounterPunch.org
18:59 highest_cubist_thrills; srk would make a good turing actually
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 134.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 144.45
18:59 highest_cubist_thrills; hes already played an autistic guy
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; is that hard?
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; serious question
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; not baiting
18:59 highest_cubist_thrills; only if you do it tastefully
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; playing a celver nash (sham) is harder
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; like good will hunting or some such
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; not the same movie
18:59 schestowitz[TR]; not same actor
19:00 highest_cubist_thrills; how hard can it be if matt damon pulled it off
19:00 schestowitz[TR]; it's like having to do a tom lehrer without special training
19:00 schestowitz[TR]; highest_cubist_thrills: hey, will smith can win award
19:00 schestowitz[TR]; acting is not a hard occupation
19:01 schestowitz[TR]; try vault jump
19:01 schestowitz[TR]; trump had a go acting like a disabled person
19:01 schestowitz[TR]; to "own the lib"
19:01 highest_cubist_thrills; honestly, he reminds me of justin theroux in the baxter
19:01 highest_cubist_thrills; try vault jump <- did damon do his own stunts?
19:01 highest_cubist_thrills; <schestowitz[TR]> highest_cubist_thrills: hey, will smith can win award <- ill give chris rock best supporting role in a public comedy
19:02 TR News; Monarchy https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/remember-the-victims-of-britains-monarchy-and-empire/ | Source: Counter Punch
19:02 TR Bot; the Victims of Britains Monarchy and Empire - CounterPunch.org
19:02 schestowitz[TR]; chris rock was never very funny
19:02 schestowitz[TR]; he just did that voice
19:02 schestowitz[TR]; like tucker
19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont entirely agree
19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; you dont like fluffy either, what are we supposed to do with you
19:02 highest_cubist_thrills; but i like dave chappelle better than chris rock
19:02 schestowitz[TR]; i like certain kind of jokes
19:02 schestowitz[TR]; brains respond differently to irony
19:03 highest_cubist_thrills; im not sure you have a sense of humour, but you might
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; the young carlin was counerculture don't give a fuck, but he was clever
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; he came from s smart family
19:03 highest_cubist_thrills; youve got sarcasm down
19:03 schestowitz[TR]; his dad asnd granddad they were good at speeches and workplay
19:03 highest_cubist_thrills; that has to count for something
19:04 schestowitz[TR]; *wordplay
19:04 highest_cubist_thrills; the young carlin was counerculture don't give a fuck, but he was clever <- yeah carlin was great
19:04 highest_cubist_thrills; one of my favourites
19:04 MinceR; i prefer the old carlin
19:05 highest_cubist_thrills; the old carlin was the only carlin
19:05 MinceR; :>
19:05 highest_cubist_thrills; what happened later wasnt carlin
19:05 highest_cubist_thrills; though i dont know how old you mean
19:05 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, rufus doesnt draw my ire
19:05 TR News; TCJKOPA Wordo: CIVIL gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-16.gmi
19:05 highest_cubist_thrills; even the cardinal was ok by me
19:06 highest_cubist_thrills; but i think big movies have a detrimental effect on stand up
19:06 TR News; "The author seems to be too much into it to be thinking/expressing ideas clearly. There's too much fluff and rainbows and "if only UBI was here". I'm not into the subject and I barely know left from right, so ignore the sarcasm and bits of pedantry if you will, and enlighten me if you'll please!" gemini://siiky.srht.site/kB45oC/toothpaste-argument.gmi
19:06 highest_cubist_thrills; i cant think of a single counterexample, maybe one exists
19:07 highest_cubist_thrills; jerry seinfeld take note
19:07 highest_cubist_thrills; acting wont help your stand up career (in terms of quality)
19:07 MinceR; i thought acting ability helped stand-up
19:08 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean the act of acting, not the ability
19:08 highest_cubist_thrills; like having a show or a big film
19:08 schestowitz[TR]; <MinceR> i prefer the old carlin
19:08 schestowitz[TR]; because you like bitter
19:08 schestowitz[TR]; so do I
19:08 schestowitz[TR]; but old carlin was slowe
19:08 schestowitz[TR]; his early skits were like singing
19:08 MinceR; i like experienced and refined
19:08 starstreak; i like all of carlin, he was awesome
19:09 MinceR; same
19:09 highest_cubist_thrills; his early skits were like singing <- i think he was making fun of the west coast there
19:10 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, im generating "70s bikini babes using computers" and I hope they turn out good
19:10 highest_cubist_thrills; good, i was worried youd given up
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; oold carlin just spoke about issues more relevant to us
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; nmnot gulk war
19:10 schestowitz[TR]; or issues of the hippie era
19:10 highest_cubist_thrills; 70s bikini babes <- even better
19:10 starstreak; early James Bond had a lot of sexy 70s bikini babes
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i think those were 60s babes
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; he used to speak very fast and keep sharp
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; but either one works for me
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; he obviously had it memorised
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; hell, even 50s bikini babes are alright
19:11 starstreak; all bikini babes
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i dont know if they existed in the 40s.
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; and prictised a lot how to read it, inc. pauses and fast-talking
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; like rapping
19:11 starstreak; but i like how women used to look in the 70s
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, the name bikini comes from the island used for nuclear testing
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> but i like how women used to look in the 70s <- you have good taste in women
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; women did not change
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; the fashion did
19:11 highest_cubist_thrills; i wont make the obvious joke, but i want to
19:11 starstreak; makeup changed
19:11 schestowitz[TR]; although body types change with diet
19:12 starstreak; women used to wear subtle makeup and now they're drag queens
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; and exercise, but diet and gym-going did not changine much
19:12 schestowitz[TR]; *change
19:12 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> women used to wear subtle makeup and now they're drag queen <- im ok with drag queens
19:12 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, im just saying, 70s babes looked "real"
19:12 starstreak; like how women actually look
19:12 highest_cubist_thrills; my bi sort-of-gf took me to this lgbtq party many years ago
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; now women butcher themselves
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; lips, breasts, even artificially arses
19:13 highest_cubist_thrills; i made out with two lesbians-- one who looked like beyonce and the other was an emt worker
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; it's sgross, not healthy, and shatters women's confeidence
19:13 schestowitz[TR]; or self-esteem
19:13 highest_cubist_thrills; the emt worker i wanted to marry :)
19:13 starstreak; <highest_cubist_thrills> <starstreak> but i like how women used to look in the 70s <- you have good taste in women <- thanks
19:13 starstreak; <highest_cubist_thrills> i made out with two lesbians-- one who looked like beyonce and the other was an emt worker <- my dream
19:13 highest_cubist_thrills; you can do it!
19:13 starstreak; its so hard to find trans friendly women online tho
19:14 techuser; you mean most trans women are hostile, or that there aren't many trans women?
19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; youre only 37, if you havent reached your dream by 43 and you can travel internationally i will make it happen
19:14 highest_cubist_thrills; but honestly, you can do it
19:15 starstreak; techuser, no its hard to find lesbians online who are okay with trans women
19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; but getting back to drag queens
19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; my one regret about that party was
19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; there was this latino/latina (i dont know drag queen or trans-- either way, more gorgeous than 95% of any group of people)
19:15 highest_cubist_thrills; and i think we could have made out but i didnt try
19:16 techuser; IRC is better than sex anyway
19:16 starstreak; oh wow, you miss the shots you don't take
19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah
19:16 schestowitz[TR]; techuser: if it is on topic
19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; she was even prettier than john leguizamo in drag
19:16 schestowitz[TR]; we created the -social channel because someone called balzac started showing up about girls or sex
19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; and honestly john leguizamo was amazing
19:16 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, what was that movie?
19:16 schestowitz[TR]; or some girls he saw at a stipp joint
19:16 highest_cubist_thrills; to wong foo?
19:16 mixling; is this some gay darkroom here?
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; but that wasnt the only time he did drag
19:17 schestowitz[TR]; and -social borrowed from fedora-social at the time
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; he used to have a standup bit
19:17 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, yeah, wong foo
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; i used to think latinos made the best queens
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; and they sort of do
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; but ive seen pretty much everybody send their best now
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; so i dont want to take away credit where credit is do
19:17 highest_cubist_thrills; due
19:18 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, have you ever seen Barbarella?
19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; of course! thats a classic
19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; thats where duran duran got their name
19:18 TR News; "In 2016, Code Club Australia launched the Moonhack online coding event and broke the world record for the most children coding in one day" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/moonhack-2022/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
19:18 TR Bot; Take part in Moonhack 2022: Community, culture, coding - Raspberry Pi
19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; also forbidden planet
19:18 highest_cubist_thrills; and ive done rocky horror, even though its PROBLEMATIC!!!!!
19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; with the same bi sort-of-gf (i borrowed her clothes, which did not fit me)
19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; i say sort of because we were never official, and that bothered me at the time
19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; but looking back, i was being pedantic. we were totally a couple and i was too thick to notice
19:19 highest_cubist_thrills; if i had known that we would have lasted longer
19:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; not that we were compatible, but there was love there
19:20 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, forbidden planet?
19:20 TR News; Don't say "Election Deniers"; this recklessly compares opponent of proprietary back-doored voting 'machines' with nazis; accusation inflation https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/election-deniers/ | Source: The Nation
19:20 TR Bot; Election Deniers Are Gearing Up to Take Office | The Nation
19:20 highest_cubist_thrills; you mentioned barbarella, i assume you mean the classic sci fi film
19:21 TR News; HRC and others were also "Election Deniers" in 2016
19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; forbidden planet is another classic sci fi, mentioned in the theme song for rhps
19:21 TR News; Poet Who Loved Sneakers https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/elegy-for-a-poet-who-loved-sneakers/ | Source: The Nation
19:21 TR Bot; Elegy for a Poet Who Loved Sneakers | The Nation
19:21 highest_cubist_thrills; do you know betty boo? shes literally the archetype for the spice girls
19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_4iWgsGgBiY
19:22 TR Bot; Where Are You Baby? - Invidious
19:22 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, yeah but i haven't seen forbidden planet, is that a jane fonda movie?
19:22 TR News; Pentagon Budget... save Microsoft at taxpayers' expense? https://www.thenation.com/article/world/pentagon-budget-inflated-war/ | Source: The Nation http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
19:22 TR Bot; An Inflated Pentagon Budget Is Not in the Countrys Best Interest | The Nation
19:22 TR Bot; The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
19:22 highest_cubist_thrills; no, thats a drawback. its not a jane fonda movie
19:22 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, jane fonda was so hot in her prime
19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah but without the wig im less impressed
19:23 starstreak; oh i didnt know it was a wig
19:23 TR News; "The plane, as described in this video, is the teams backup (they have two planes). But even though the Patriots seem to own the plane, they do not run it." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/where-sports-and-deportation-meet-ice-is-removing-people-on-the-same-planes-used-to-transport-teams/ | Source: Counter Punch
19:23 TR Bot; Sports and Deportation Meet: ICE Is Removing People on the Same Planes Used to Transport Teams - CounterPunch.org
19:23 highest_cubist_thrills; if it wasnt, im astounded
19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean that was epic hair
19:24 TR News; "In fact, at the level of our everyday social lives, morality has no authority." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/making-your-hippie-life-matter/ | Source: Counter Punch
19:24 TR Bot; Your Hippie Life Matter - CounterPunch.org
19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; im looking forward to the bikini programmers
19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i voted for computer science barbie
19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; i thought it was a great idea
19:24 highest_cubist_thrills; some people thought it was cynical, i was not one of them
19:25 TR News; "Im referring to COVID, of course, an infectious diseaseknown to be airborne since January 7, 2020, and to the low number of people who wear masks in public although COVIDs spread can be greatly curtailed" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/maskless-dystopia/ | Source: Counter Punch
19:25 TR Bot; Dystopia - CounterPunch.org
19:25 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe barbie shouldnt be a role model, but she is regardless
19:26 highest_cubist_thrills; they made the breaking bad barbie by combining a science kit and camper :)
19:26 highest_cubist_thrills; that was funny
19:26 highest_cubist_thrills; that was pure parody
19:26 starstreak; lol
19:27 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, this was one i did yesterday, not 70s but still classic: https://i.imgur.com/pdd7xc1.png
19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; looks like a trade show
19:28 starstreak; it likes to generate bikini babes without computers
19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; mel bs talent has its own merit
19:28 highest_cubist_thrills; bu she literally owes her stardom to betty boo
19:29 highest_cubist_thrills; and betty boos top single is clearly inspired by barbarella
19:29 highest_cubist_thrills; so there you go, jane fonda -> betty boo -> mel b
19:29 highest_cubist_thrills; that actually happened
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19:38 mixling; weird
19:47 DaemonFC; 'https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/food-prices-are-all-high-but-these-5-grocery-items-are-the-hardest-hit-data-shows
19:48 TR Bot; Gemini Portal
19:48 DaemonFC; Margarine is up more than butter.
19:53 DaemonFC; https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/09/15/grand-jury-indicts-lake-forest-man-on-almost-dozen-charges-for-allegedly-uploading-child-pornography-to-server/
19:53 TR Bot; Grand jury indicts Lake Forest man on almost dozen charges for allegedly uploading child pornography to server
19:53 DaemonFC; Updated. He "uploaded it to an Internet Server".
19:54 DaemonFC; By "Internet Server" I assume they mean one of the GAFAM clowns.
20:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
20:23 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: I read an article about tech workers spending $100,000 to have their femurs broken.
20:23 DaemonFC; Sound like a lot to go through jut to be 3 inches taller when they're done.
20:37 DaemonFC; Putin threatened continued strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure, and said: We will see how (Ukraines counteroffensive) ends.
20:38 DaemonFC; XRevan86: Apparently, Russia misfired one of its own hypersonic missiles and killed six Russian citizens with it.
20:38 starstreak; lol
20:39 DaemonFC; https://eurasiantimes.com/russian-hypersonic-missile-kinzhal-fired-from-mig-31-fighter/
20:39 TR Bot; Russian Hypersonic Missile 'Kinzhal' Fired From MiG-31 Fighter Reportedly Fell On Its Own Territory
20:40 DaemonFC; The booster failed after the fighter jet fired the missile and it crash landed into a Russian town with a live warhead armed.
20:41 starstreak; "crash landed"
20:42 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Yes, saw that, Russian reporting said it was a Ukrainian drone that crashed.
20:42 XRevan86; Independent media quickly debunked that because the images of the debris clearly looked like a missile.
20:43 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Oh, and it was mentioned in the yesterday's CIT dispatch.
20:43 XRevan86; And here's today's:
20:43 XRevan86; > CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-15-09-16 ( https://nitter.it/CITeam_en/status/1570824349028061185 )
20:43 TR Bot; Sitrep for September 15 Telegraph
20:43 TR Bot; (en) (@CITeam_en): "September 15 sitrep: Ukraine strikes occupation authorities; Mass graves found in liberated Izyum, reportedly twice as many killed civilians as in Bucha; Russian convict recruitment increased as those already at the front are used as cannon fodder; https://te.legra.ph/Sitrep-for-September-15-09-16"|nitter.it
20:44 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/255115
20:44 TR Bot; LNR General Prosecutor Sergey Gorenko killed in explosion in his office, Russian state news agency reports
20:44 XRevan86; https://theins.press/en/news/255129
20:44 TR Bot; Russian journalist Maria Ponomarenko slashed her wrists in detention while awaiting fakes trial
20:44 XRevan86; https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/16/meduza-russias-ex-finance-minister-alexei-kudrin-to-join-yandex-board-on-putins-approval-news "Meduza: Russias ex-finance minister Alexei Kudrin to join Yandex board on Putins approval"
20:44 TR Bot; .
20:44 *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights
20:44 XRevan86; "Sources", but if true, another blow in Yandex.
20:47 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/16/kazakhstan-s-parliament-renames-nur-sultan-to-astana-and-increases-presidential-term-to-seven-years "Parliament of Kazakhstan renames Nur-Sultan [back] to Astana and increases presidential term to seven years"
20:47 TR Bot; NO TITLE
20:47 XRevan86; https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/16/kyrgyzstan-and-tajikistan-struggle-to-reach-ceasefire-amid-fresh-fighting-on-border "Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan struggle to reach ceasefire amid fresh border clashes"
20:47 TR Bot; NO TITLE
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20:49 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1570620697143287810
20:49 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Even after her passing, Russian state media continues to malign Queen Elizabeth. State TV host Olga Skabeeva falsely claimed that the offensive footage depicts the queen, when in fact it was filmed sometime between 1899 and 1900, decades before Queen Elizabeth was born."|nitter.it
20:50 XRevan86; https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1570835842255704064
20:50 TR Bot; Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "All over Russian state TV, propagandists have been painstakingly painting the picture that Russian troops retreated after battling NATOnot Ukraine. One pundit made fun of the transparent plot to make Russia's defeats seem less humiliating, angering the Kremlin's mouthpieces."|nitter.it
20:55 XRevan86; > After Russian troops left the Kharkiv region, evidence of war crimes is emerging. Oleksiy Kopytko, the adviser to the head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, reported large-scale destruction in Izyum and spontaneous mass graves. Already twice more murdered civilians were found than in Bucha (Kyiv region).
20:55 XRevan86; > We see no evidence proving that Russian higher command encourages war crimes, but commanders of at least lower ranks do not prevent this. It has already become evident that more crimes are committed on the territories where Russian troops meet with greater resistance and are undersupplied. A long deployment on the front line or in an occupied settlement in constant fear for one's life and witho
20:55 XRevan86; ut a normal supply results in exasperation, paranoid thoughts, and looting.
20:57 XRevan86; > we are seeing more and more evidence of prisoners fighting on the frontline. They are often used as cannon fodder in the typical tactics of the Wagner group.
20:57 highest_cubist_thrills; unreal
20:58 XRevan86; > such mercenaries are used as bait for Ukrainian artillery and firing points
20:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 156.38 average k/sec., average swarm size 176.03
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21:01 DaemonFC; XRevan86: So apparently 5 himars missiles landed on the central administration building in the "Donetsk People's Republic".
21:02 DaemonFC; Lots of Russians dead. Had to call off the "referendum" for now.
21:02 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, whats unreal is that thousands of years from now, aliens will be watching our tv programs
21:03 starstreak; we are a very noisey planet
21:03 DaemonFC; "And Putin faced opposition to the war from India and China at a summit aimed at challenging Western influence"
21:03 DaemonFC; LOL
21:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz[TR2]: https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-teams-has-been-storing-auth-tokens-in-plaintext-093510463.html
21:05 TR Bot; Teams has been storing authentication tokens in plaintext | Engadget
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21:05 DaemonFC; mjg59_ approves.
21:05 DaemonFC; Much Secure Very Wow!
21:05 XRevan86; > So apparently 5 himars missiles landed on the central administration building in the "Donetsk People's Republic".
21:05 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Uh when?
21:05 highest_cubist_thrills; <starstreak> we are a very noisey planet <- my neighbours alone are terrible
21:06 XRevan86; DaemonFC: "Had to call off the "referendum" for now" <- The Ukrainian offensive was the last nail in the coffin.
21:06 XRevan86; It doesn't need any more nails :)
21:07 DaemonFC; Ukraine has been blowing up the offices where the Russian-installed "government" officials are meeting at.
21:07 XRevan86; It's not confirmed who's responsible, but that's not the worst assumption.
21:08 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Luhansk ("LPR"), Berdiansk (Zaporizhzhia), Kherson.
21:09 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, i keep getting shit like this: https://i.imgur.com/dxDn4kp.png
21:10 *psydruid suggests a new plan to deal with the noisy neighbour problem
21:10 starstreak; in what universe is a tablet a laptop
21:10 XRevan86; DaemonFC: From the description "central administration building" I assume ye mean Kherson, i.e. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/16/ukraine-strikes-regional-administration-building-in-russia-occupied-kherson-news
21:10 TR Bot; .
21:10 starstreak; but no, this is a tablet with a melted keyboard on it
21:11 DaemonFC; Hmm, I could have misremembered that. I read it this morning.
21:11 XRevan86; DaemonFC: "The death toll in the Kherson regional administration strike has risen to three"
21:11 DaemonFC; To be fair, the Russians are getting their asses kicked all over the place lately.
21:11 DaemonFC; If Putin could do something he would have already.
21:11 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, https://pornpen.ai/
21:11 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pornpen.ai
21:12 starstreak; a web based A.I for making softcore porn photos
21:12 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Not arguing with the general canvas.
21:14 highest_cubist_thrills; i love you
21:15 highest_cubist_thrills; /me is sure its github based though
21:16 highest_cubist_thrills; this is way better than a regular tablet
21:17 starstreak; lol
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; i think shes l33t
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; if her tablet has a real keyboard she must have skillz
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; id say dont underestimate her
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; maybe she even has top clearance
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; or she does and they dont know it
21:17 starstreak; anyone can go buy a bluetooth keyboard for a tablet, i would
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; yeah but this is melted into the screen
21:17 highest_cubist_thrills; i mean, she definitely knows something
21:18 starstreak; true
21:19 highest_cubist_thrills; <psydruid> ACTION suggests a new plan to deal with the noisy neighbour problem <- its not really a problem
21:19 starstreak; highest_cubist_thrills, then it mashes their faces up: https://i.imgur.com/j1ci0Fm.png
21:19 starstreak; my friend has an A.I tool that fixes faces
21:19 MinceR; the bikini's pretty weird too
21:19 MinceR; and around it
21:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
21:20 highest_cubist_thrills; the nose i could live with
21:20 highest_cubist_thrills; but the inside out lips are too much
21:20 starstreak; its like more worse things start to pop out the more you look at it
21:20 XRevan86; highest_cubist_thrills: When moving my eyes at the monitor, I keep reading your nickname as smth_hubris_smth
21:20 MinceR; :>
21:21 highest_cubist_thrills; smth_hubris_smth <- thats fair
21:21 starstreak; on facebook there is a group called "who keeps giving these mother fuckers art supplies" and i think "who keeps giving these mother fuckers A.I" sounds like a good group name
21:22 starstreak; what I like about Stable Diffusion is that it seems to nail it on celebrities, even some local politicians
21:22 *highest_cubist_thrills is now known as thighest_hubris_crills
21:22 thighest_hubris_crills; hows this
21:22 thighest_hubris_crills; brb
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21:23 starstreak; i wonder if Roy is famous enough for A.I generation :O
21:23 starstreak; "Roy Schestowitz eating a big mac"
21:24 starstreak; it would be him with his shirt off, with those big muscles of his and we would be holding a big mac and smiling
21:24 starstreak; he*
21:24 XRevan86; "Roy Schestowitz eating a Tasty Period Big Special"
21:25 *thighest_hubris_crills (~thighest_hubris_cri@tjyeecr8dbswi.irc) has joined #techrights
21:25 thighest_hubris_crills; XRevan86 here you go
21:26 starstreak; if anyone wants to see how jacked roy is, visit: http://scifitness.co.uk/author/scifit/
21:26 TR Bot; Author Archives Dr. Roy Schestowitz SCI Fitness
21:26 thighest_hubris_crills; dont ask what a crill is, idk
21:26 thighest_hubris_crills; roy has pics on his website
21:26 starstreak; with his shirt off?
21:26 thighest_hubris_crills; /me prefers girly boys
21:26 thighest_hubris_crills; yes, with his shirt off
21:27 starstreak; oh fair enough
21:27 starstreak; i like muscles
21:27 starstreak; i also like girly
21:27 thighest_hubris_crills; liking muscles isnt a crime
21:27 starstreak; body hair tho? no way
21:27 starstreak; ewww
21:28 thighest_hubris_crills; im pretty sure by 2050, if we are still here, men will all be completely bald from the neck down
21:28 starstreak; I think Roy could handle himself in WWE
21:29 thighest_hubris_crills; and laser hair removal will be on the most basic of health plans
21:29 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, if women should be expected to shave their vaginas and legs...
21:29 starstreak; laser hair removal is awesome
21:29 starstreak; i got that done on my face
21:29 thighest_hubris_crills; honestly, thats only because of porn
21:30 starstreak; nobody likes bush lol
21:30 thighest_hubris_crills; trimming is sufficient
21:30 thighest_hubris_crills; welcome to bushrights
21:30 starstreak; lol
21:31 starstreak; this all started off with how jacked Roy is
21:31 thighest_hubris_crills; now youre wondering what he shaves
21:32 starstreak; lol he doesn't, he just stares menacingly at the hair until it falls out
21:32 thighest_hubris_crills; i have a different theory but ill spare you
21:32 starstreak; nair?
21:33 thighest_hubris_crills; no, i woudlnt even wish that on roy
21:33 thighest_hubris_crills; that shit burns
21:33 starstreak; i had to nair my genitals the morning before my surgery
21:33 starstreak; wasn't fun
21:34 thighest_hubris_crills; say what you will about techrights
21:34 thighest_hubris_crills; i certainly do
21:34 thighest_hubris_crills; this is the best irc channel on the internet
21:34 starstreak; yes
21:34 starstreak; lol
21:34 thighest_hubris_crills; :)
21:34 starstreak; the real diversity
21:34 thighest_hubris_crills; divers like it
21:35 starstreak; divers?
21:35 thighest_hubris_crills; yeah they like tight clothes and wore masks before they went all mainstream
21:36 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, https://i.imgur.com/rR8bKSZ.png
21:36 starstreak; she has two laptops and maybe only one arm
21:37 starstreak; the table is made out of melted keyboards
21:37 thighest_hubris_crills; what else does she need
21:37 thighest_hubris_crills; lol this one
21:38 thighest_hubris_crills; when she closes that laptop on (her) right
21:38 MinceR; a proper laptop
21:38 thighest_hubris_crills; the screen is going to hang over the keyboard like an overbite
21:38 MinceR; yeah, and the other one's missing a keyboard
21:38 thighest_hubris_crills; show this picture to a geek and this is what they notice
21:38 starstreak; this chick has her laptop out in the sand: https://i.imgur.com/p4zkHAL.png
21:38 thighest_hubris_crills; i mean its definitely not all we notice
21:38 starstreak; she was beaten with an ugly stick
21:39 MinceR; she was dug into the sand
21:39 starstreak; A.I is great
21:40 MinceR; HEY HI
21:40 starstreak; it certainly was funny turning bill gates into a reptoid
21:40 thighest_hubris_crills; <starstreak> she was beaten with an ugly stick <- or possibly her other leg
21:40 thighest_hubris_crills; as its not shown
21:41 thighest_hubris_crills; or maybe sold separately
21:41 starstreak; lol
21:42 starstreak; i wonder what i'll make next
21:43 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/v3gbdzC
21:43 TR Bot; met the unicorn! - Album on Imgur
21:43 XRevan86; "lol he doesn't, he just stares menacingly at the hair until it falls out" <- And that's the story of Dr. Roy Norris.
21:44 MinceR; i don't think Roy is a fundie
21:44 MinceR; (unlike chuck)
21:44 thighest_hubris_crills; which is pretty on the nose
21:44 thighest_hubris_crills; one time the internet was sucking and roy just looked at it and it got better
21:46 starstreak; Roy could dribble a bowling ball
21:47 thighest_hubris_crills; lol
21:48 starstreak; Roy does not use spell check. If he happens to misspell a word, Oxford will change the spelling.
21:48 thighest_hubris_crills; getting warmer
21:48 starstreak; lol
21:49 starstreak; Some kids pee their name in the snow. Roy can pee his name into concrete.
21:49 thighest_hubris_crills; but he hates when people do that
21:50 thighest_hubris_crills; jus because you can doesnt mean you should
21:50 starstreak; None of Roy's critics would ever challenge him to a fist fight
21:50 starstreak; Roy would win
21:50 thighest_hubris_crills; idk
21:51 thighest_hubris_crills; hes strong but i bet hes getting slow
21:51 thighest_hubris_crills; im not saying i could, definitely not saying i should
21:51 thighest_hubris_crills; but id consider it
21:51 starstreak; i bet he could just go to lennart poetterings house and lift weights on the front lawn, lennart would give in after a day or so
21:52 thighest_hubris_crills; besides we both have enough honour not to literally kill each other
21:52 thighest_hubris_crills; last time i got in a fist fight we both got knocked well enough and got along fine after that
21:52 starstreak; thighest_hubris_crills, you would get into a fist fight with Roy?
21:53 thighest_hubris_crills; not if im smart, no
21:53 thighest_hubris_crills; it would be a stupid idea
21:53 starstreak; for charity, lets set this up
21:53 thighest_hubris_crills; but i wouldnt rule it out either
21:53 thighest_hubris_crills; what charity
21:53 starstreak; any charity you want
21:53 thighest_hubris_crills; its going to cost me some real money in dentistry
21:53 thighest_hubris_crills; that much is a given
21:54 thighest_hubris_crills; youre too into this
21:54 starstreak; lol
21:54 thighest_hubris_crills; i think you just like seeing catfights, the macho version
21:55 starstreak; catfights are great too
21:55 starstreak; like "bitch, you don't go fucking my bf!"
21:55 thighest_hubris_crills; /me wonders if jerry springer was invited to any of the kardashian weddings
21:56 starstreak; jerry springer was great
21:56 starstreak; i downloaded this one jerry springer video that was full of nudity
21:56 starstreak; it was like some kind of special
21:56 *starstreak looks for it
21:56 starstreak; Jersey Shore is great too
21:56 thighest_hubris_crills; :)
21:57 starstreak; those people are so dumb
21:57 thighest_hubris_crills; you dont have ANY guilty pleasures, do you
21:57 thighest_hubris_crills; i mean not even the concept
21:57 starstreak; im usually pretty open
21:58 starstreak; some stuff is so bad its good
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21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; some stuff is so bad its good <- at least it has that going for it
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; they make these caramels
21:59 starstreak; i watched Jersey Shore cuz Beavis and Butthead watched clips of it
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; the name isnt goatse but its like that
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; goetz?
21:59 starstreak; lol
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; works either way
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; they taste like an industrial byproduct
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; from making pencil erasers
21:59 starstreak; the best kind
21:59 thighest_hubris_crills; but theyre sort of addictive
22:00 thighest_hubris_crills; "i hate this! this is revolting!"
22:00 thighest_hubris_crills; "more?"
22:00 thighest_hubris_crills; "yes please!"
22:00 starstreak; star trek generations
22:01 thighest_hubris_crills; yep
22:02 starstreak; i watched all of them recently
22:02 thighest_hubris_crills; its fun that whoopi goldberg was on sttng
22:02 starstreak; star trek 1 is great on acid
22:02 thighest_hubris_crills; because it was seeing uhura on sttos that made her go into acting
22:02 thighest_hubris_crills; "mama theres a black lady on tv and she aint no maid!"
22:03 thighest_hubris_crills; ^ young whoopi
22:03 starstreak; i wonder if barbarella would be good on acid
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22:05 thighest_hubris_crills; i figure most 60s style films are good on acid
22:05 thighest_hubris_crills; but ive never tried it, its not an ambition of mine
22:07 starstreak; its hard to find
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22:07 starstreak; i got it from a friend of a friend of a friend that was a hippy
22:08 starstreak; its also illegal which is a bummer
22:08 thighest_hubris_crills; lol
22:08 starstreak; there are legal alternative drugs that have a similar composition to LSD
22:08 thighest_hubris_crills; id worry more about those
22:08 thighest_hubris_crills; last thing we need is another bath salts
22:09 starstreak; thats what made John McAfee is awesome
22:09 starstreak; so awesome*
22:09 thighest_hubris_crills; rofl
22:09 thighest_hubris_crills; no
22:10 thighest_hubris_crills; XD
22:13 starstreak; whats this... jersey shore vacation
22:13 thighest_hubris_crills; /me imagines peter norton blew all the money from symantec on a mountain of cocaine
22:13 starstreak; lol
22:13 thighest_hubris_crills; "IM LIKE SCARFACE!"
22:14 thighest_hubris_crills; when i was a kid, i thought peter norton was the absolute shit
22:14 thighest_hubris_crills; because he could drink with his arse
22:14 thighest_hubris_crills; turned out, all he did was make a stupid little window and change a line in win.ini
22:14 thighest_hubris_crills; but when i was a kid i didnt know that
22:14 thighest_hubris_crills; i thought he was some kind of incredible windows hacker
22:14 thighest_hubris_crills; LOOK HE CAN TAKE OVER THE SHELL WOW
22:15 thighest_hubris_crills; its pretty funny
22:15 thighest_hubris_crills; like thinking a basic card trick is REAL MAGIC
22:15 thighest_hubris_crills; i wanted to meet him
22:15 thighest_hubris_crills; YOURE SO COOL
22:15 thighest_hubris_crills; but i figured it out later
22:15 thighest_hubris_crills; still cool, but not exactly OMG
22:15 starstreak; i hated norton, it always slowed down a computer so much
22:16 thighest_hubris_crills; oh that was like a decade later
22:16 thighest_hubris_crills; that norton was shit
22:16 thighest_hubris_crills; but that norton wasnt even him
22:16 thighest_hubris_crills; they just had the rights to use his name as a brand by then
22:17 thighest_hubris_crills; which is dumb
22:17 starstreak; same with McAfee
22:17 thighest_hubris_crills; i bet he doesnt mind the money though
22:17 thighest_hubris_crills; i used to use cpav
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; for dos
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; then microsoft bought it
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; it became msav
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; then they killed it off
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; not great
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; central point made better windows stuff than windows
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; hell, even win95 was kind of a ripoff of central point
22:18 thighest_hubris_crills; even though it was more a ripoff of os/2
22:19 thighest_hubris_crills; meanwhile at jobs hq
22:19 thighest_hubris_crills; "sir, its windows"
22:19 thighest_hubris_crills; "yes?"
22:19 thighest_hubris_crills; "sir, i dont know how to tell you this"
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "what is, number 2?"
22:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "well, they-- they made their controls look 3d, sir"
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "What?"
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "they use shadows on everything like theyre buttons"
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "i see..."
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "sir, what should we do?"
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "make everything look like blue candy..."
22:20 thighest_hubris_crills; "yes sir, at once!"
22:21 thighest_hubris_crills; "and make the name sound cooler, something with a slash... and an x!"
22:21 thighest_hubris_crills; "right away sir!"
22:22 thighest_hubris_crills; "theyre going to regret this, fluffy... oh yes, theyre going to rue the day!"
22:22 thighest_hubris_crills; fluffy was his pet automat, from dr who
22:23 thighest_hubris_crills; its sort of like a hairless cat, except very importantly, its covered in chrome
22:23 thighest_hubris_crills; jobs used to pet it and talk to it to calm himself
22:23 starstreak; i like how things look on mac
22:25 thighest_hubris_crills; they have a certain charm
22:28 starstreak; os/2 was kinda cool
22:28 thighest_hubris_crills; i loved it
22:29 starstreak; i had warp 3 on floppy disks
22:29 thighest_hubris_crills; granted i was still using windows
22:29 thighest_hubris_crills; so os/2 seemed very futuristic
22:29 thighest_hubris_crills; by comparison
22:29 starstreak; i couldn't get os/2 warp 3 on the internet so i kept using windows 3.11
22:29 thighest_hubris_crills; to hold off on win95
22:29 thighest_hubris_crills; and maintain speed on a 486 laptop
22:29 thighest_hubris_crills; i ran calmira
22:30 thighest_hubris_crills; win95 looks on win 3.1
22:30 starstreak; same
22:30 thighest_hubris_crills; cool
22:30 starstreak; those were the days :D
22:30 thighest_hubris_crills; oh dont miss them
22:30 thighest_hubris_crills; i dont
22:30 thighest_hubris_crills; but honestly
22:30 thighest_hubris_crills; you have to be REALLY minimalist to expect anything remotely like that kind of speed now :)
22:31 thighest_hubris_crills; sometimes openbsd feels that fast
22:31 starstreak; true
22:31 thighest_hubris_crills; sometimes it doesnt
22:31 thighest_hubris_crills; i like xterm
22:31 thighest_hubris_crills; if you want to open 10 xterm windows in a hurry, you can
22:31 thighest_hubris_crills; you can close them in a hurry
22:31 starstreak; i use gnome terminal
22:31 thighest_hubris_crills; tsk
22:32 starstreak; i dont use the command line all that much
22:32 thighest_hubris_crills; have the girl with the keyboard tablet show you :)
22:32 thighest_hubris_crills; i think she uses it a lot
22:32 thighest_hubris_crills; keyblet
22:32 thighest_hubris_crills; she has a keyblet
22:32 starstreak; lol
22:33 starstreak; i use the terminal to run "yay -Syu" every day
22:33 thighest_hubris_crills; the screen area isnt any more ridiculous than the new mac[]ooks
22:34 starstreak; what desktop or window manager do you run?
22:34 thighest_hubris_crills; dwm
22:34 thighest_hubris_crills; im going to fork it and call the new version dwm btw
22:35 starstreak; thats elite
22:35 thighest_hubris_crills; or ill just call it btw
22:35 thighest_hubris_crills; then i can say
22:35 thighest_hubris_crills; i use btw btw
22:35 starstreak; lol
22:36 starstreak; my hostname is archbtw
22:36 thighest_hubris_crills; rfl
22:36 thighest_hubris_crills; youre a dork
22:36 thighest_hubris_crills; dorks are best
22:37 starstreak; :)
22:38 starstreak; thanks
22:39 thighest_hubris_crills; anytime
22:39 *starstreak is downloading jersey shore
22:39 thighest_hubris_crills; trashy television is universal
22:39 starstreak; there is a jersey shore family vacation too
22:39 thighest_hubris_crills; even redundant
22:39 starstreak; dont you love trashy tv
22:40 thighest_hubris_crills; everybody does
22:40 thighest_hubris_crills; most people dont admit it
22:40 thighest_hubris_crills; i do hate most of it though
22:40 starstreak; i dont know if ill watch teen mom
22:40 thighest_hubris_crills; lol
22:40 thighest_hubris_crills; you should watch precious plum
22:40 starstreak; that might be too much of a train wreck
22:40 thighest_hubris_crills; its a parody of honey boo boo
22:40 starstreak; lol
22:40 starstreak; i hate honey boo boo
22:41 thighest_hubris_crills; "dog the bat?" "dog the bat!"
22:41 thighest_hubris_crills; "im gonna take dog for a walk!"
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22:41 thighest_hubris_crills; then she opens the box with the bat in the car
22:41 thighest_hubris_crills; and it starts flying around
22:42 thighest_hubris_crills; you have to see it though
22:43 thighest_hubris_crills; they should do jersey shore next
22:46 starstreak; damn
22:46 starstreak; the new jersey shore looks awesome
22:55 starstreak; FBoy Island sounds interesting
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 13.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 155.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 186.48
23:08 thighest_hubris_crills; theres a show called fuckboy island?
23:09 starstreak; yes
23:09 thighest_hubris_crills; rofl
23:09 thighest_hubris_crills; isnt that kind of like every island?
23:09 starstreak; lol
23:09 thighest_hubris_crills; i was watching breadtube for a bit
23:10 thighest_hubris_crills; and were in hell was doing a thing on pickup-- artist-- reality shows
23:10 thighest_hubris_crills; how...
23:10 thighest_hubris_crills; /me shakes head
23:10 thighest_hubris_crills; between that and your softcore ai with keyboards though it gave me a great idea
23:11 thighest_hubris_crills; and the one that contrapoints or philosophytube did on incel
23:11 thighest_hubris_crills; s
23:11 thighest_hubris_crills; i mostly gave up breadtube for a couple of reasons, the main one being that al sweigart seems to fund them all
23:11 thighest_hubris_crills; which isnt their fault.
23:12 thighest_hubris_crills; but im sure ill check on it again, because they update every month or two
23:12 starstreak; pickup artist reality show?
23:13 thighest_hubris_crills; theres more than one
23:13 thighest_hubris_crills; i mean, reality shows are trash to begin with
23:13 thighest_hubris_crills; so a pickup artist reality show would be like
23:13 thighest_hubris_crills; trash inception
23:13 thighest_hubris_crills; this is half the premise of were in hell anyway
23:14 thighest_hubris_crills; sociology, anarcho communism and reality tv.
23:14 thighest_hubris_crills; at least the name is fair warning
23:15 thighest_hubris_crills; he managed to befriend xander corbus in the process, which i think is kind of priceless
23:15 thighest_hubris_crills; so now a top-name adult performer helps crowdfund a dork an-com youtube channel
23:15 thighest_hubris_crills; which i think is sweet
23:15 thighest_hubris_crills; better than al sweigart for sure
23:17 thighest_hubris_crills; also im pretty sure xander corbus is a communist :)
23:18 thighest_hubris_crills; which i think is great
23:18 thighest_hubris_crills; but theres certainly no proof
23:20 IPFS; () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-15.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-16.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
23:22 TR News; "our collapsing and dysfunctional healthcare system." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/on-the-shambles-of-the-american-health-care-system-and-the-need-for-medicare-for-all/ | Source: Counter Punch
23:22 TR Bot; the Shambles of the American Health Care System and the Need for Medicare-for-All - CounterPunch.org
23:25 TR News; "If you live in Florida, you dont need the news to tell you that. You see the help wanted signs everywhere you go, advertising well above minimum wage" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/09/16/desantiss-costly-political-stunts-turn-floridas-taxpayers-into-involuntary-presidential-campaign-contributors/ | Source: Counter Punch
23:25 TR Bot; Costly Political Stunts Turn Florida's Taxpayers Into Involuntary Presidential Campaign Contributors - CounterPunch.org
23:30 TR News; Keys to Mexico City https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/julian-assange-receives-keys-to-mexico-city/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
23:30 TR Bot; Julian Assange receives Keys to Mexico City - Don't Extradite Assange
23:31 TR News; The Florida Freshwater Squid https://fantasticmetropolis.com/i/squid/
23:31 TR Bot; The Florida Freshwater Squid - Fantastic Metropolis
23:31 TR News; xkcd: Cursed mRNA Cocktail https://xkcd.com/2673
23:31 TR Bot; Cursed mRNA Cocktail
23:32 TR News; (NEW): Kdenlive 22.08.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Kdenlive_22_08_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Kdenlive_22_08_1.gmi
23:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Kdenlive 22.08.1
23:32 TR News; (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/16/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi
23:32 TR Bot; Tux Machines Android Leftovers
23:38 TR News; Arch Linux mailing list changes https://archlinux.org/news/arch-linux-mailing-list-changes/
23:38 TR Bot; Arch Linux - News: Arch Linux mailing list changes
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23:39 TR News; Not only is it a listening device; it's also lying to you and spamming you https://www.maketecheasier.com/amazon-alexa-sponsored-answers-to-questions/
23:39 TR Bot; Amazon to Allow Alexa to Deliver Sponsored Answers to Questions - Make Tech Easier
23:42 TR News; The SECRET message in the Steam Deck's mascot: Steam Pal! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V0BTaQy5AE0 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/V0BTaQy5AE0
23:42 TR Bot; The SECRET message in the Steam Deck's mascot: Steam Pal! - Invidious
23:43 TR News; Making Neovim Look More Like Doom Emacs - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0dtc7Qnw6aY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/0dtc7Qnw6aY
23:43 TR Bot; Making Neovim Look More Like Doom Emacs - Invidious
23:43 TR News; How to install Venom Linux 4.0 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sm_vbbTBi4I | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/sm_vbbTBi4I
23:43 TR Bot; How to install Venom Linux 4.0 - Invidious
23:44 TR News; Sweet Transit Now Working Fine on Linux with Proton Experimental - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/sweet-transit-linux-proton-experimental/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/sweet-transit-linux-proton-experimental/
23:44 TR Bot; Sweet Transit Now Working Fine on Linux with Proton Experimental - Boiling Steam
23:45 TR News; Laura Tucker running GULAG SPAM. Even if GULAG paid you, then you should say "No!" https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/google-nest-thermostat/
23:45 TR Bot; Save $30 on a Google Nest Thermostat - Make Tech Easier
23:46 TR News; "I have finally my Samba server up and running with some photos and videos (from our mobiles) that I tried to watch through the FireTV... Now the FireTV is good at streaming paid services but very uncooperative when is time to watch local content." gemini://warp.geminispace.club/~freezr/pebcak/index.gmi
23:47 TR News; Limiting distraction on my phone gemini://gmi.bacardi55.io/gemlog/2022/09/16/limiting-distraction-on-my-phone/ get rid of the device, enjoy zero distraction
23:47 TR News; "ChillyWeather (OpenWeather) had forecast overcast skies until pretty much the end of time, so I went to bed last night without any plans to do star gazing. When I got up at 3:30am, as I usually do, I took a quick glance at ChillyWeather and was shocked to discover that current conditions were reported as "few clouds" i.e., pretty much clear skies." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220916-0.gmi
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23:50 TR News; Using Netdata on NixOS and connecting to Netdata cloud gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/netdata-cloud-nixos.gmi
23:51 TR News; Using Netdata on NixOS and connecting to Netdata cloud gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/netdata-cloud-nixos.gmi
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23:51 schestowitz; WTF? What are you celebrating, Microsoft malware? "
23:51 schestowitz; This week we had our annual DuckDuckGo meetup!" gemini://jagtalon.smol.pub/week-9 DDG, liars, Microsoft.... http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
23:51 TR Bot; DuckDuckGo - Techrights
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23:53 TR News; Russia has been quietly building up its domestic surveillance apparatus. https://slate.com/technology/2022/09/russia-domestic-surveillance.html "Russia is keeping an eye on everyone, including pensioners and priests."
23:53 TR Bot; Russia has been quietly building up its domestic surveillance apparatus.
23:53 TR News; Russia has been quietly building up its domestic surveillance apparatus. https://slate.com/technology/2022/09/russia-domestic-surveillance.html "Russia is keeping an eye on everyone, including pensioners and priests."
23:57 TR News; Manchester's Whitworth Gallery is nice, but their coffee shop is totally insane. Not accepting cash at all. It's not some small shop but a big one. I bet they lie and basically exploited COVID-19 to push in this agenda (for totally malicious reasons).
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