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00:00 schestowitz-TR; it would shock me if anywhere there was dumb enough to use the darn thing
00:00 DaemonFC; 2662 59th Ave SW
00:00 DaemonFC; Seattle, WA 98116
00:01 schestowitz-TR; gay blackmail app: approved by Sir Fry
00:01 schestowitz-TR; also approved by Fry: GNU
00:01 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, they used the gays near you feature
00:01 bnchs; sort of like a fucking radar
00:01 bnchs; for gay people
00:01 MinceR; gaydar
00:01 MinceR; or the way islamists use it: slaydar
00:02 bnchs; beep beep beep 113 gay people detected near 1 km
00:02 schestowitz-TR; "Come get ma falafels"
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00:03 DaemonFC; It's a duplex.
00:03 DaemonFC; I don't see the KIA or the Ford.
00:04 schestowitz-TR; shoebox accomodation
00:04 schestowitz-TR; welcome to singapore!
00:04 schestowitz-TR; you can exit the shoebox to visit a nearby shopping mall
00:04 schestowitz-TR; BTW, their shopping malls are all very expensive
00:04 schestowitz-TR; you'd struggle to find anything worth buying, even on salke
00:05 schestowitz-TR; it's always cheaper in the UK
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00:05 TR News; Free Software or Openwashing Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164702
00:05 TR Bot; Free Software or Openwashing Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:05 DaemonFC; There was a GEO Metro parked a couple blocks from his old apartment in Tacoma.
00:06 schestowitz-TR; if he lost his job in the airport, he burns his money on rent now
00:06 schestowitz-TR; unless it's important to live close to Unvle Bill
00:06 DaemonFC; He's too old for Uncle Bill.
00:07 DaemonFC; Uncle Bill thinks it's important to catch them young, so they can be properly educated.
00:07 schestowitz-TR; "bad bad ..."
00:07 schestowitz-TR; "Well, he's dead"
00:07 schestowitz-TR; "OK, let's talk about COVID now... I'm the expert"
00:08 schestowitz-TR; "I bribed the Lancet, does it make me a researcher?"
00:08 schestowitz-TR; (Bill never finished university)
00:09 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, you know what they say
00:09 bnchs; in order to become an expert
00:09 bnchs; you must give some money
00:09 TR News; "...and I realized I had *essentially* abandonned this gemlog. Well, neglected it, anyways. My phlog really is my first love. It is mirrored on gemini as well." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20210725.gmi
00:09 DaemonFC; I'm looking at his mom's house in Texas.
00:10 DaemonFC; She lives in one of those ticky tacky housing subdivisions.
00:10 DaemonFC; Her husband is a really weird guy.
00:10 TR News; "My capsule is not dead; I've just been very busy! 2021 is finally over, and truth be told it was kind of a drag. I am just a few weeks away from graduation, so of course most of my life energy is focused on school right now plus a bunch of other issues." gemini://kwiecien.us/gemlog/202201010203.gmi
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00:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 558.38
00:10 DaemonFC; Still uses a reverse projection television. The bulb was burning out and he said he ordered another one and it cost him $70.
00:11 schestowitz-TR; [00:10] <DaemonFC> Her husband is a really weird guy.\
00:11 DaemonFC; The bulbs cost about 1/6th of a new big screen LED that'll take up 20% of the electric and the reverse projection bulbs just burn out again in a few years so you have to replace them over and over.
00:11 schestowitz-TR; like father like son
00:11 DaemonFC; It's not John's dad.
00:12 DaemonFC; Robert seemed nice enough. Only met him once. John's dad is Juan.
00:12 DaemonFC; He's on his third family now.
00:12 DaemonFC; Dude's like 60 and he's married to a woman my age and has more kids with her.
00:12 schestowitz-TR; SonJuan
00:12 DaemonFC; Neither he or his wife have any sense of money either.
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00:13 DaemonFC; They took out a vehicle equity loan on their 2011 Prius so they'll never get it paid off, then they used the money to prop up their overspending.
00:13 DaemonFC; I'd be surprised if they haven't been sued already.
00:13 schestowitz-TR; he should meet marisol for the 4th family then (Re: Neither he or his wife have any sense of money either.)
00:14 DaemonFC; MARISOL wouldn't be interested in him.
00:14 DaemonFC; He's already loaded up with debt and on his last leg health-wise.
00:14 schestowitz-TR; she is also deep in debt
00:14 DaemonFC; His kids with the third wife won't have a dad by the time they're 25.
00:14 schestowitz-TR; and mark's parents are bust
00:14 DaemonFC; Yeah, but I know how she thinks.
00:15 schestowitz-TR; those shoes are worthless
00:15 DaemonFC; If she ever ditches Mark, it'll be so she can load up her next husband with credit card debt.
00:15 schestowitz-TR; and she votes Ferdinand Jr.
00:15 schestowitz-TR; bringing back Immelda
00:15 schestowitz-TR; anyway, the whole US is a mess like this
00:15 schestowitz-TR; many companies are like that, mostly debt
00:15 schestowitz-TR; little assets
00:16 schestowitz-TR; (inc. the company where I work)
00:16 schestowitz-TR; debt is the new currency they say
00:16 schestowitz-TR; they measure how much minus
00:16 schestowitz-TR; dick-measuring content where less is more
00:16 schestowitz-TR; and where more debt is "prospects"
00:16 schestowitz-TR; "we managed to get more loans than you! ha ha!"
00:16 schestowitz-TR; as if that's a positive
00:16 DaemonFC; CNN says American households took on another $62 billion in debt last month.
00:16 DaemonFC; Hey hell, why not.
00:17 DaemonFC; It's one big turkey shoot headed for the bankruptcy courts anyway.
00:17 schestowitz-TR; that's aside from national debt
00:17 DaemonFC; Yeah.
00:17 schestowitz-TR; US is about 34 trillion in debt
00:17 schestowitz-TR; local gov. is about 3-4
00:17 schestowitz-TR; USA Inc. is insolvent
00:17 schestowitz-TR; Twitter was sold to outsiders
00:17 DaemonFC; My credit is pretty much ruined. But it's better than it was before I filed bankruptcy.
00:17 schestowitz-TR; KSA, South African slavery family etc.
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00:17 DaemonFC; It was 490 and then it went back up to 550, and now it's at 650.
00:18 schestowitz-TR; You might say,
00:18 activelow; http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
00:18 TR Bot; With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
00:18 schestowitz-TR; one day USA will be sold
00:18 schestowitz-TR; but that's a dumb thing to do
00:18 schestowitz-TR; or to say
00:18 schestowitz-TR; because it is already sold
00:18 DaemonFC; You do need good credit even if you aren't interested in loans and mortgages.
00:18 schestowitz-TR; follow the money of the debtors
00:18 DaemonFC; The insurance companies use it to rate you.
00:18 DaemonFC; If you have no credit score, they use it as an excuse to rip you off on car insurance for about another $800 a year.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; whatever
00:19 DaemonFC; There's only like 4 states where they can't fuck you like that.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; I don't want a car anymore
00:19 DaemonFC; Everywhere else it's a free for all, so they do it.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; and I throw all the lending spam right in the bin
00:19 schestowitz-TR; I still gets lots of that spam
00:19 schestowitz-TR; claiming 0% interest
00:19 DaemonFC; Yeah, for a while anyway. On a credit card?
00:19 DaemonFC; 15-18 months.
00:19 DaemonFC; It's how they reel you in.
00:19 schestowitz-TR; some people borrow money to buy homes overvalued before the bubble implodes
00:20 DaemonFC; At first it doesn't cost you that much to go into debt and make minimum payments.
00:20 activelow; puff piece is a rather polite expression to describe openssf ...
00:20 DaemonFC; 18 months sounds like forever.
00:20 schestowitz-TR; and then they sit on an "asset" worth barely half what they paid
00:20 DaemonFC; So you max out the card and 18 months happens and then you're in trouble.
00:21 schestowitz-TR; one reason I want to change jobs is the loan shark we're made to "help"
00:21 schestowitz-TR; they run a network of wordpress sites that they use to rope in victims
00:21 schestowitz-TR; i refuse to work on that
00:21 schestowitz-TR; those sites should all be OFFLINE
00:22 DaemonFC; Yeah, well, I have bills and Mandy's like "Don't we already have like 7 credit cards?".
00:22 DaemonFC; And I said, "Yeah.".
00:22 DaemonFC; He goes, "Well what the fuck are you doing with 7 credit cards?".
00:22 schestowitz-TR; better to have more bank accounts
00:22 DaemonFC; I said, "Well, none of them carry a balance.".
00:22 schestowitz-TR; not plastics that have your name with a minus attached to them
00:22 DaemonFC; "They each have their highest rewards schemes on a different category."
00:23 DaemonFC; "About five percent of our income comes from credit card points. Life's expensive."
00:23 schestowitz-TR; be careful what you sign
00:23 schestowitz-TR; it's subject to change
00:23 schestowitz-TR; what you sign might have a section consenting to future changes
00:23 schestowitz-TR; and then before you know it they rip you off
00:24 schestowitz-TR; like a bank once did when closing my account while stealing my balance
00:24 schestowitz-TR; because they had lied to me about no annual charges
00:24 DaemonFC; Well, the federal Credit CARD Act says they have to notify you 45 days in advance of changes.
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00:24 schestowitz-TR; and then quietly added those in
00:24 schestowitz-TR; better to record what banksters tell you
00:24 DaemonFC; And you can cancel the card, and they can't make those changes retroactive on things you've already put on the card.
00:24 schestowitz-TR; so you can prove they broke a promise or lied
00:25 DaemonFC; I get emails saying "Our Card Agreement has changed. Here's what's changing." sometimes and I read them.
00:25 DaemonFC; Most people don't.
00:25 TR News; "In the Drake equation, Im a bit of an ET-naysayer, I had really underestimated R. The Milky Way is a lil bit bigger than I thought." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/drake-equation
00:25 DaemonFC; They have to summarize what's changing and then go into the particulars.
00:25 DaemonFC; I got one from the bank one day that says they were doing away with overdraft fees.
00:26 TR News; "I bristled at this teaching in grade school (in lgstadiet) because it felt like we were being taught an oversimplification, a falsehood, a myth." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/five-senses
00:27 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: they rely on people too busty with a hard life
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00:27 schestowitz-TR; and not reading the changes
00:27 schestowitz-TR; and then getting exploited or not botering
00:27 schestowitz-TR; not pursuing correction
00:27 schestowitz-TR; anyway, banksters are called that for a reason
00:27 schestowitz-TR; they're like gangsters
00:27 schestowitz-TR; like patent lawyers
00:27 schestowitz-TR; they don't think of themselves that way
00:29 DaemonFC; No, people like to think they're important and serving a purpose.
00:29 DaemonFC; Banks don't create anything, they're just moneychangers.
00:30 TR News; Canonical does not promote GNU/Linux https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9
00:30 TR Bot; on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu
00:30 schestowitz-TR; yup
00:30 schestowitz-TR; banks are just that
00:31 schestowitz-TR; central banksters are worse
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00:33 TR News; SUSE, Docker, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164703
00:33 TR Bot; SUSE, Docker, and More | Tux Machines
00:34 activelow; doubt openssf intersects with any real project... not sure
00:34 activelow; i remember, gentoo founder went to microsoft.. and gentoo does exactly what openssf announces it would do
00:35 activelow; ideally i can remove all gentoo dependencies, that's why tinycc is important too, because toolchain maintenance of GCC etc. is too complicated
00:37 activelow; few days ago, gentoo.org security notifications labeled _all_ web browsers red with highest severity
00:38 activelow; one example, and they jumped into bed with each other, microsoft edge, chromium
00:38 activelow; mozilla heading towards apple/rust/clang... all of it wiped here
00:38 XRevan86; "tinycc is important" <- It didn't take long for activelow to forget that compilers like https://sr.ht/~mcf/cproc/ exist.
00:38 TR Bot; cproc: Small C11 compiler based on QBE
00:40 activelow; XRevan86: if you're willing to help i would be curious if any other compiler can compile linux kernel, such as QBE, tinycc
00:41 XRevan86; QBE is not a compiler, it's a compiler back-end akin to LLVM but simpler.
00:42 XRevan86; (and written in C, surprise-surprise)
00:42 activelow; i don't care how you name this, if it can't compile linux kernel
00:42 TR News; links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9
00:42 TR News; links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Gemini address: links-10052022-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9
00:43 XRevan86; activelow: Your argument is really strange, since the competition is a half-dead C99 compiler.
00:43 TR News; Links 10/05/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/rhel-9/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/rhel-9/
00:43 TR Bot; Links 10/05/2022: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Techrights
00:43 XRevan86; activelow: Ye consider TinyCC to be better suited at compiling Linux?
00:44 activelow; XRevan86: any later than gcc 4.7 are dead
00:44 TR News; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704
00:44 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:44 TR News; Videos: Chinas GNU/Linux Embrace and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164705
00:44 TR Bot; Videos: China's GNU/Linux Embrace and More | Tux Machines
00:44 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164706
00:44 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:45 activelow; and i say tinycc _was_ the last project i knew which succeeded partially with kernel-4.6... yet with my minor patch against kernel-5.10 tinycc could eat most of it
00:45 activelow; difference between tinycc and qbe/cproc, tinycc demonstrated it did the joib
00:45 activelow; job
00:45 XRevan86; This logic is as solid as a Swiss watch.
00:46 TR News; ZDNet: we've covered IBM's paid-for FLUFF because IBM PAYS us to do this while ignoring China's GNU/Linux-friendly policy. The editorial choices are the PRODUCT. Boycott ZDNet. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet
00:46 TR Bot; ZDNet - Techrights
00:48 XRevan86; activelow: That feature-dead compiler is sure the best chance at compiling contemporary Linux.
00:48 XRevan86; Because many years in its prime it could build something from the Linux source tree.
00:48 XRevan86; * many years ago
00:48 activelow; it could compile entire linux v2.6, JIT, yes
00:49 XRevan86; That actively developed compiler that states C11 and some GCC extensions' compliance has nothing on TinyCC.
00:50 activelow; linux v4.6 bricked, only partial success, kernel v5.10 required some nasty patching already for gcc-4.7 (no time yet for tinycc)... and kernel v5.15 locked into some more feature creap again and gcc-5.x...
00:50 XRevan86; I really doubt that it can build Linux, but maybe it will fail later in the build process than TinyCC.
00:50 activelow; XRevan86: situation currently is simply this, i am not aware of any C(!) compiler which demonstarted it fully compiled linux kernel v5.10
00:52 XRevan86; activelow: That attempt at "sic!" is not really successful, because GCC and Clang are C compilers amongst other things, and they demonstrated that they can.
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00:53 activelow; >gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, end of discussion; these are written in c++, and have the usual characterstics of this type of software which is typically written with c++
00:54 DaemonFC; "However, this mistake could be attributable to the writers following the [Ferengi] 239th rule of acquisition. 'Never be afraid to mislabel a product.'"
00:54 DaemonFC; LOL
00:54 activelow; XRevan86: i already patched kernel 5.10, what have you got to claim you progressed further with QBE?
00:55 activelow; too i downgraded to gcc-4.7 already, wiped all c++ dependencies... what have you got in preparation for any C(!) compiler to feed with?
00:55 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I tend to do things in such a way that it doesn't go too much against the flow, when possible.
00:55 activelow; anyway... triggered another devdrop build, which just launched, meaning good night
00:56 DaemonFC; I finally broke my mom of one bad habit (for the environment and the bank account). Changing your oil every few months.
00:56 XRevan86; activelow: "gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, end of discussion; these are written in c++" <- So the language in which the compiler is written is what language the compiler is for?
00:56 DaemonFC; I managed to make my case that as long as you're checking it every couple of weeks to make sure you're not losing any, you can usually do it about every year with the mileage she's driving.
00:56 activelow; ">gcc-4.7 and llvm/clang are C++ compilers, these are written in c++"
00:57 DaemonFC; I've never had a car with engine problems.
00:57 DaemonFC; But I use good stuff and I keep an eye on it.
00:57 activelow; XRevan86: yes, the choice of implementation language of the compile define it's qualities
00:57 DaemonFC; We're having all these damned oil supply problems and the price is going up like crazy.
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00:57 activelow; how can you question this? try to bootstrap tcc with all support cross compilers... 5 minutes... done...
00:58 DaemonFC; So changing it out too often is going to cost you a lot of money these days.
00:58 activelow; do the same with GCC... with the exact same resources available, requires hours and days of time
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00:58 activelow; not to mention the _instability_ of c++ language feature set and it's standard library
00:59 TR News; This is a GNOME thing, not a Ubuntu thing, and it's most likely the work of (mostly) Red Hat https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/05/disable-animations-in-ubuntu-22-04
00:59 TR Bot; How to Disable UI Animations in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - OMG! Ubuntu!
00:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 560.61
00:59 ADT; .net is the new c++
01:00 schestowitz-TR; ok..
01:00 DaemonFC; https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/used-car-prices-continue-to-drop-but-at-a-slower-pace
01:00 TR Bot; Used car prices continue to drop, but at a slower pace
01:00 DaemonFC; Prices paid by DEALERS is going down.
01:01 ADT; .net is mono on linux?
01:01 DaemonFC; In other words, they're padding their profit margin. People are desperate to raise money. They sell their car for less because it's one asset they can dispose of quickly.
01:01 DaemonFC; Dealer raises prices even though they're getting them cheaper.
01:01 ADT; were are you copy pasting this from?
01:02 XRevan86; ADT: Mono is kind of its own thing. .NET Core also supports GNU/Linux.
01:02 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, You're right that car ownership is pretty terrible.
01:02 TR News; On automating a gemini capsule with gssg gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/using-gssg-to-build-site.gmi
01:02 DaemonFC; You can avoid "stepping in it" on a brand that's just no good, like anything German.
01:02 XRevan86; ADT: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/telemetry It also has this.
01:02 TR Bot; .NET SDK and .NET CLI telemetry - .NET CLI | Microsoft Docs
01:03 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Did you see where Lada says they're going to deal with sanctions by shipping the cars with no air conditioner?
01:03 activelow; anyway... triggered another devdrop build, which just launched, meaning good night
01:03 ADT; german cats are some of the best
01:03 DaemonFC; I don't know how much of a concession that is in Russia overall.
01:03 TR News; Some thoughts on Gemini gemini://sergio-101.mywire.org/posts/gemini-thoughts.gmi "For some reason, I am having a really good time setting this thing up. I feel like I am back in the old days of the interneta time when we never could tell who was looking at our site"
01:03 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I heard about Euro-0. And about that they don't know how to produce anything at all.
01:04 ADT; is DT guy on this irc ?
01:04 ADT; DaemonFC are you the hey DT guy?
01:04 DaemonFC; No?
01:05 ADT; are you sure?
01:05 DaemonFC; The air conditioner on the Impala konked out finally. It works, but only when you're going up or down a hill.
01:05 DaemonFC; And then it stops again.
01:05 ADT; you do know who im talking about?
01:05 DaemonFC; I'm going to have to recharge it.
01:05 DaemonFC; Or just start driving up and down a lot of hills, I suppose.
01:06 XRevan86; DaemonFC: "I don't know how much of a concession that is in Russia overall." <- Not sure what ye mean. I think it's a huge question what kind of product they're even going to muster up eventually.
01:06 XRevan86; Lack of air conditioning might be not on the top of the list of peculiarities.
01:08 ADT; impala linux dluxe
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01:10 ADT; do you know the DT guy the linux youtuber?
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01:10 XRevan86; ADT: DistroTube?
01:11 ADT; yes
01:11 *XRevan86 is aware of his existence.
01:11 ADT; Hey, DT!
01:12 XRevan86; ADT: Why do ye think he's here?
01:12 ADT; atention deficit disorder dude
01:12 ADT; cause you link him alot
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01:13 TR News; KDE-Neon is such an awkward distro. Each OS update is like (almost) installing everything all over again, and it only configures itself during the reboot. It's not for your average production system. Also: memory leaks.
01:13 DaemonFC; Maybe talk to Vlad about that.
01:14 DaemonFC; Russia seems to be really good at producing tanks to drive up and then get burned alive in when a Javelin hits them.
01:14 DaemonFC; If they spent less on that, they could have better cars.
01:14 ADT; techrights-news looks alot like windows
01:15 ADT; you could install linux faster then windows update
01:15 DaemonFC; One of the few things Americans seem to agree on is that 86% think burning those Russian bastards alive in their tanks is worth every penny.
01:15 DaemonFC; So Putin united us on at least that.
01:16 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I'm legally obligated to condemn the use of the word "bastards" here.
01:16 TR News; COVID-19 'solved' in UK by virtue of not publishing data about it http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/10/hiding-covid/
01:16 TR Bot; Blog Archive COVID-19 in the UK: Going Dark, Hiding the Problem Instead of Solving It
01:16 ADT; legally?
01:17 TR News; Python Database Programming with MongoDB | Developer.com https://www.developer.com/languages/python-mongodb/ Source: developer
01:17 TR Bot; Database Programming with MongoDB | Developer.com
01:17 ADT; you see i was right elon musk really both tweeter to unban donald trump
01:17 XRevan86; ADT: Well, not really. But I legally can't agree with that, so that's close.
01:18 ADT; https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-donald-trump-twitter/
01:18 TR Bot; Elon Musk says he would allow Donald Trump back on Twitter - CBS News
01:19 TR News; Danielle For Has an Update for elementary OS 7 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164707
01:19 TR Bot; Danielle For Has an Update for elementary OS 7 | Tux Machines
01:19 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Putin is really good at uniting like that.
01:19 XRevan86; Just look at Sweden and Finland.
01:19 ADT; in any sane nation donald trump would be trialed for treason
01:20 ADT; donald trump is going to end war with putin and launch a special operation on mexico
01:21 ADT; they really did a sloppy job the 1st time
01:21 ADT; usa need to be united with panama
01:22 schestowitz-TR; A Russian candidate plans to run for USA Inc. 2024
01:22 schestowitz-TR; so Twitter account needed
01:22 schestowitz-TR; MusKSA coordinated the purchase with Trump, based on report
01:22 schestowitz-TR; or with that CEO of Truth Sovisl
01:23 schestowitz-TR; Devin Nunes was it?
01:23 schestowitz-TR; Truth Social failed badly
01:23 schestowitz-TR; taking over Twitter using Saudi oil money is a contigency
01:26 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: I have question
01:27 schestowitz-TR; it relates to something discussed in #boycottnovell yesterday (hours ago)
01:27 schestowitz-TR; how does not best respond to claims that Putin's approval rating soared?
01:28 XRevan86; schestowitz: That ratings is a mechanism relevant only to democracies.
01:28 schestowitz-TR; because of the legitimacy\?
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01:32 XRevan86; schestowitz: There are several factors at play: 1. plain fear, because of which people who disagree are much less likely to even respond; 2. lack of consequences, since people don't have a part in decision making they are less likely to bother to have a well-formed opinion; 3. state propaganda which brain-washes at unprecedented levels; 4. natural human comformism which makes people less likely to sid
01:32 XRevan86; e with the Enemies of the Nation.
01:32 XRevan86; schestowitz: There are several factors at play: 1. plain fear, because of which people who disagree are much less likely to even respond; 2. lack of consequences, since people don't have a part in decision making they are less likely to bother to have a well-formed opinion; 3. state propaganda which brain-washes at unprecedented levels; 4. natural human comformism which makes people less likely to sid
01:32 XRevan86; e with the Enemies of the Nation.
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01:32 schestowitz-TR; thanks, makes sense
01:32 schestowitz-TR; thanks, makes sense
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01:37 XRevan86; schestowitz: With regular ratings dictators always get absurdly high approval.
01:37 XRevan86; schestowitz: With regular ratings dictators always get absurdly high approval.
01:38 XRevan86; Maybe that means that democracies don't work as well if dictators have several times higher approvals of their dictator governments :). (it doesn't)
01:38 XRevan86; Maybe that means that democracies don't work as well if dictators have several times higher approvals of their dictator governments :). (it doesn't)
01:42 XRevan86; 1.1. and fear can push people towards conformism on a mental level.
01:42 XRevan86; 1.1. and fear can push people towards conformism on a mental level.
01:43 schestowitz-TR; does beatka mean anything in Russia?
01:43 schestowitz-TR; does beatka mean anything in Russia?
01:43 schestowitz-TR; betka
01:43 schestowitz-TR; betka
01:43 schestowitz-TR; >batka
01:43 schestowitz-TR; >batka
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01:44 schestowitz-TR; in Belarus the dictator's regime uses the term
01:44 schestowitz-TR; in Belarus the dictator's regime uses the term
01:44 DaemonFC; ADT, I don't know if the war on Mexico idea was serious, but Trump ordered Defense Secretary Mark Esper to look into firing cruise missiles into Mexico.
01:44 DaemonFC; ADT, I don't know if the war on Mexico idea was serious, but Trump ordered Defense Secretary Mark Esper to look into firing cruise missiles into Mexico.
01:44 DaemonFC; That didn't come out until last week. So if you were joking, you actually hit on something that did come up during the administration.
01:44 DaemonFC; That didn't come out until last week. So if you were joking, you actually hit on something that did come up during the administration.
01:45 schestowitz-TR; he also wanted to fire live ammo at protesters
01:45 schestowitz-TR; he also wanted to fire live ammo at protesters
01:45 schestowitz-TR; Musk: let him in, let's bring back the shitshow
01:45 schestowitz-TR; Musk: let him in, let's bring back the shitshow
01:45 DaemonFC; Trump wanted to hit the "drug cartels" with the missiles, he said.
01:45 DaemonFC; Trump wanted to hit the "drug cartels" with the missiles, he said.
01:45 DaemonFC; Mexico is in danger from the United States because they don't have nuclear missiles.
01:45 DaemonFC; Mexico is in danger from the United States because they don't have nuclear missiles.
01:45 schestowitz-TR; the boy who was brutally beaten at school wants to help bullies now
01:45 schestowitz-TR; the boy who was brutally beaten at school wants to help bullies now
01:45 DaemonFC; If you have nuclear missiles, you're only in danger of harassment via proxy war.
01:45 DaemonFC; If you have nuclear missiles, you're only in danger of harassment via proxy war.
01:46 DaemonFC; Then the US government wants to know why everyone suddenly wants nukes.
01:46 DaemonFC; Then the US government wants to know why everyone suddenly wants nukes.
01:46 TR News; We Turn 18 Next Month Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164708
01:46 TR News; We Turn 18 Next Month Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164708
01:46 TR Bot; We Turn 18 Next Month | Tux Machines
01:46 TR Bot; We Turn 18 Next Month | Tux Machines
01:47 XRevan86; schestowitz: The word is used for Lukashenko, it means father but with an informal connotation which I can't translate.
01:47 XRevan86; schestowitz: The word is used for Lukashenko, it means father but with an informal connotation which I can't translate.
01:47 DaemonFC; I think the reason the proxy war harassment of Russia is so popular is because we're not in any real danger ourselves and it is doing significant degradation to Russia's military.
01:47 DaemonFC; I think the reason the proxy war harassment of Russia is so popular is because we're not in any real danger ourselves and it is doing significant degradation to Russia's military.
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01:47 ADT66; democracies have to get it right all the time dictators only need to get it right once
01:47 ADT66; democracies have to get it right all the time dictators only need to get it right once
01:47 DaemonFC; All we have to do is prop up some backwater nation state with enough of our weapons to give Putler a really bad day and then grab the popcorn.
01:47 DaemonFC; All we have to do is prop up some backwater nation state with enough of our weapons to give Putler a really bad day and then grab the popcorn.
01:48 schestowitz-TR; give them weapons only if they inevstigate Biden
01:48 schestowitz-TR; give them weapons only if they inevstigate Biden
01:48 schestowitz-TR; and then get Trumpcorn
01:48 schestowitz-TR; and then get Trumpcorn
01:48 XRevan86; schestowitz: Also regarding propaganda, I should point out that it has never been this effective, so I attribute its success to that people really-really want the brainwash, to escape reality.
01:48 XRevan86; schestowitz: Also regarding propaganda, I should point out that it has never been this effective, so I attribute its success to that people really-really want the brainwash, to escape reality.
01:49 XRevan86; ADT66: That's true.
01:49 XRevan86; ADT66: That's true.
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01:50 DaemonFC; We're decades ahead of anything Ukraine had, which was Russian to begin with...so like, big whoop.
01:50 DaemonFC; We're decades ahead of anything Ukraine had, which was Russian to begin with...so like, big whoop.
01:50 DaemonFC; Half of it probably didn't work right to begin with.
01:50 DaemonFC; Half of it probably didn't work right to begin with.
01:52 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's slander of 40 year old machinery.
01:52 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's slander of 40 year old machinery.
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01:59 DaemonFC; I care?
01:59 DaemonFC; I care?
02:01 DaemonFC; You'll notice that the Chinese middle class is driving Buicks if they can get them.
02:01 DaemonFC; You'll notice that the Chinese middle class is driving Buicks if they can get them.
02:01 DaemonFC; Not a big market for Ladas.
02:01 DaemonFC; Not a big market for Ladas.
02:01 chicksahoy; At least you aren't riding a bike anymore
02:01 chicksahoy; At least you aren't riding a bike anymore
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02:02 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Ukraine-manufactured Neptune missiles got the job done on a certain warship.
02:02 XRevan86; DaemonFC: Ukraine-manufactured Neptune missiles got the job done on a certain warship.
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02:02 DaemonFC; Just an Impala with no air conditioning that likes to go into a seizure for a few seconds in the winter when I hit a snow bank.
02:02 DaemonFC; Just an Impala with no air conditioning that likes to go into a seizure for a few seconds in the winter when I hit a snow bank.
02:02 DaemonFC; For a few more days until I get my Buick back.
02:02 DaemonFC; For a few more days until I get my Buick back.
02:02 XRevan86; Many they were from the good half.
02:02 XRevan86; Many they were from the good half.
02:02 XRevan86; * Maybe
02:02 XRevan86; * Maybe
02:02 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Many they were from the good half.
02:02 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Many they were from the good half.
02:03 DaemonFC; They seemed to be good enough to hit the munitions store and set off secondary explosions.
02:03 DaemonFC; They seemed to be good enough to hit the munitions store and set off secondary explosions.
02:03 DaemonFC; I mean maybe by chance, but it's where you would aim.
02:03 DaemonFC; I mean maybe by chance, but it's where you would aim.
02:03 XRevan86; Accuracy is half the job.
02:03 XRevan86; Accuracy is half the job.
02:07 DaemonFC; The other half is a proprietary blend of luck and swagger.
02:07 DaemonFC; The other half is a proprietary blend of luck and swagger.
02:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: It's not hard to imagine, because the worldview alternative to the propaganda provides no hope. I try to go with the truth, and I have no hope.
02:08 XRevan86; schestowitz: It's not hard to imagine, because the worldview alternative to the propaganda provides no hope. I try to go with the truth, and I have no hope.
02:08 DaemonFC; I really hope we're giving Ukraine some more anti-ship missiles.
02:08 DaemonFC; I really hope we're giving Ukraine some more anti-ship missiles.
02:09 DaemonFC; They can just keep sinking the Russian ships and saying they had more "Neptune" missiles.
02:09 DaemonFC; They can just keep sinking the Russian ships and saying they had more "Neptune" missiles.
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02:09 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Did you see the Ukrainian "Captured Russian Tank Parade"?
02:09 DaemonFC; XRevan86, Did you see the Ukrainian "Captured Russian Tank Parade"?
02:10 DaemonFC; I think theirs was bigger.
02:10 DaemonFC; I think theirs was bigger.
02:10 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I saw it, yes.
02:10 XRevan86; DaemonFC: I saw it, yes.
02:10 DaemonFC; Posted on Twitter under "Shit we stole from Pootie Poot".
02:10 DaemonFC; Posted on Twitter under "Shit we stole from Pootie Poot".
02:10 DaemonFC; (No, not really, but close.)
02:10 DaemonFC; (No, not really, but close.)
02:11 XRevan86; I haven't really looked at the Moscow parade up close, only what the dictator uttered out of his mouth. And that there was no aviation.
02:11 XRevan86; I haven't really looked at the Moscow parade up close, only what the dictator uttered out of his mouth. And that there was no aviation.
02:11 DaemonFC; It must be humiliating that you're losing almost as many tanks to the crews being smart enough to get out and run as you are to being blown up
02:11 DaemonFC; It must be humiliating that you're losing almost as many tanks to the crews being smart enough to get out and run as you are to being blown up
02:12 XRevan86; There was going to be a flight in the form of a letter Z, but they cancelled it all.
02:12 XRevan86; There was going to be a flight in the form of a letter Z, but they cancelled it all.
02:12 DaemonFC; Too many aircraft lost to Stingers....I mean, no particular reason.
02:12 DaemonFC; Too many aircraft lost to Stingers....I mean, no particular reason.
02:12 DaemonFC; Scheduling conflicts.
02:12 DaemonFC; Scheduling conflicts.
02:12 XRevan86; in the formation that is
02:12 XRevan86; in the formation that is
02:13 schestowitz-TR; drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision
02:13 schestowitz-TR; drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision
02:13 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's probably not it.
02:13 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's probably not it.
02:14 XRevan86; Russia still has a shit tonne of aircraft, and they were there for the repetitions.
02:14 XRevan86; Russia still has a shit tonne of aircraft, and they were there for the repetitions.
02:15 XRevan86; One fun hypothesis is that everything was cancelled for the small chance that a plane could decide to go on a collision course with Putin.
02:15 XRevan86; One fun hypothesis is that everything was cancelled for the small chance that a plane could decide to go on a collision course with Putin.
02:15 TR News; The master IBM runs "election", with candidates prefiltered by the master https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f36-elections-nominations-now-open/
02:15 TR News; The master IBM runs "election", with candidates prefiltered by the master https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f36-elections-nominations-now-open/
02:15 TR Bot; F36 elections nominations now open Fedora Community Blog
02:15 TR Bot; F36 elections nominations now open Fedora Community Blog
02:16 TR News; https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/
02:16 TR News; https://mintcast.org/2022/05/11/381-mozilla-does-something-meta/
02:16 TR Bot; 381 Mozilla Does Something Meta mintCast
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02:17 XRevan86; Putin is pretty paranoid when it comes to his life (amongst other things), which is evident even simply by his bunker way of life.
02:17 XRevan86; Putin is pretty paranoid when it comes to his life (amongst other things), which is evident even simply by his bunker way of life.
02:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Big layoffs at Carvana.
02:17 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Big layoffs at Carvana.
02:17 DaemonFC; "Online automotive retailer Carvana Co. says its letting go about 2,500 workers, roughly 12% of its workforce, as it tries to bring staffing and expenses in line with sales."
02:17 DaemonFC; "Online automotive retailer Carvana Co. says its letting go about 2,500 workers, roughly 12% of its workforce, as it tries to bring staffing and expenses in line with sales."
02:17 XRevan86; And potentially aviation was seen as a non-zero threat.
02:17 XRevan86; And potentially aviation was seen as a non-zero threat.
02:18 schestowitz-TR; plane dives?
02:18 schestowitz-TR; plane dives?
02:18 schestowitz-TR; they can disarm the planes
02:18 schestowitz-TR; they can disarm the planes
02:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: yes, plane dives.
02:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: yes, plane dives.
02:20 XRevan86; The official reason was bad weather of all things.
02:20 XRevan86; The official reason was bad weather of all things.
02:20 XRevan86; It's rare to see a day as sunny as was May 9th in St. Petersburg and Moscow.
02:20 XRevan86; It's rare to see a day as sunny as was May 9th in St. Petersburg and Moscow.
02:22 XRevan86; Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces.
02:22 XRevan86; Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces.
02:22 XRevan86; I don't really see how, but I'm not a military expert.
02:22 XRevan86; I don't really see how, but I'm not a military expert.
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03:59 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces.
03:59 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> Another hypothesis is that there were fears of the planes being taken down by Ukrainian forces.
03:59 DaemonFC; It's hard to sneak across the border with Stingers isn't it?
03:59 DaemonFC; It's hard to sneak across the border with Stingers isn't it?
03:59 DaemonFC; As far as I know, Ukraine has only gone into Russia once and that was to blow up a fuel depot that was close to the border.
03:59 DaemonFC; As far as I know, Ukraine has only gone into Russia once and that was to blow up a fuel depot that was close to the border.
04:07 MinceR; was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces?
04:07 MinceR; was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces?
04:08 MinceR; 11 031305 < schestowitz-TR> drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision
04:08 MinceR; 11 031305 < schestowitz-TR> drawing swastikas in the sky is a high risk of collision
04:08 MinceR; yet another advantage to the zwastika!
04:08 MinceR; yet another advantage to the zwastika!
04:08 MinceR; 11 015943 < ADT> .net is the new c++
04:08 MinceR; 11 015943 < ADT> .net is the new c++
04:08 MinceR; no, it's a crappy java clone
04:08 MinceR; no, it's a crappy java clone
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05:23 DaemonFC; <MinceR> was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces?
05:23 DaemonFC; <MinceR> was that confirmed to be done by ukrainian forces?
05:24 DaemonFC; Unless Russia blew up their own fuel depot for whatever reason, I suppose.
05:24 DaemonFC; Unless Russia blew up their own fuel depot for whatever reason, I suppose.
05:24 DaemonFC; Don't know why they would.
05:24 DaemonFC; Don't know why they would.
05:24 DaemonFC; Maybe XRevan86 could speculate.
05:24 DaemonFC; Maybe XRevan86 could speculate.
05:25 DaemonFC; MinceR, Maybe Jussie Smollett gave the Russians advice on how to conduct the war.
05:25 DaemonFC; MinceR, Maybe Jussie Smollett gave the Russians advice on how to conduct the war.
05:26 DaemonFC; First you kick your own ass, then you get caught, then it's the end of your career, then you go to jail, then you get out of jail when you whine that they only sent you to jail for being black.
05:26 DaemonFC; First you kick your own ass, then you get caught, then it's the end of your career, then you go to jail, then you get out of jail when you whine that they only sent you to jail for being black.
05:26 DaemonFC; Profit.
05:26 DaemonFC; Profit.
05:28 DaemonFC; MinceR, So, the Buick dealer wants $60,000 for a Buick today.
05:28 DaemonFC; MinceR, So, the Buick dealer wants $60,000 for a Buick today.
05:28 DaemonFC; And there's no Buick on their lot that costs less than $53,250.
05:28 DaemonFC; And there's no Buick on their lot that costs less than $53,250.
05:28 DaemonFC; That's the base model.
05:28 DaemonFC; That's the base model.
05:29 DaemonFC; If you want to lease one of the $60,000 Buicks, you get a three year lease. You have to pay them $6,000 down and another $24,000 in installments over 36 months. Then if you turn it in with more than 10,000 miles on the odometer, you owe an additional 25 cents per mile when you go to turn it in.
05:29 DaemonFC; If you want to lease one of the $60,000 Buicks, you get a three year lease. You have to pay them $6,000 down and another $24,000 in installments over 36 months. Then if you turn it in with more than 10,000 miles on the odometer, you owe an additional 25 cents per mile when you go to turn it in.
05:30 DaemonFC; So it's half the cost of buying one, you never own it, they take it back in three years, and you're barely allowed to drive it.
05:30 DaemonFC; So it's half the cost of buying one, you never own it, they take it back in three years, and you're barely allowed to drive it.
05:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, That seems like one of the worst deals out there to me.
05:30 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, That seems like one of the worst deals out there to me.
05:31 DaemonFC; The average annual mileage a vehicle is driven is 9,250 in the United States, per year.
05:31 DaemonFC; The average annual mileage a vehicle is driven is 9,250 in the United States, per year.
05:32 DaemonFC; So if you just drive the average amount, you will owe them $4,437.50 in mileage when you go to turn it in.
05:32 DaemonFC; So if you just drive the average amount, you will owe them $4,437.50 in mileage when you go to turn it in.
05:32 DaemonFC; So at that point, you paid $34,437.50+tax to lease a $60,000 Buick for three years and then turn it back in.
05:32 DaemonFC; So at that point, you paid $34,437.50+tax to lease a $60,000 Buick for three years and then turn it back in.
05:32 DaemonFC; And if it's been scratched, scraped, dented, door dinged, etc. they want money for that too.
05:32 DaemonFC; And if it's been scratched, scraped, dented, door dinged, etc. they want money for that too.
05:34 DaemonFC; I remember mom telling me they were at a drive in movie with my dad and my aunt and uncle back in the 70s and some guy kept getting out and whacking my dad's Plymouth with their car door. So he got out (wearing steel toed boots) and kicked the side of their car and left a huge dent in it.
05:34 DaemonFC; I remember mom telling me they were at a drive in movie with my dad and my aunt and uncle back in the 70s and some guy kept getting out and whacking my dad's Plymouth with their car door. So he got out (wearing steel toed boots) and kicked the side of their car and left a huge dent in it.
05:36 DaemonFC; "Violent crime happens in Afghanistan during all times of day, so do not think that daylight makes you safe. You can expect muggings, burglaries, and carjacking since this country is shaken by war and in extremely bad condition. The risk increases after dark, so avoid going anywhere after nightfall."
05:36 DaemonFC; "Violent crime happens in Afghanistan during all times of day, so do not think that daylight makes you safe. You can expect muggings, burglaries, and carjacking since this country is shaken by war and in extremely bad condition. The risk increases after dark, so avoid going anywhere after nightfall."
05:36 DaemonFC; Just replace "Afghanistan" with "Chicago" and you get a good description of Chicago.
05:36 DaemonFC; Just replace "Afghanistan" with "Chicago" and you get a good description of Chicago.
05:40 DaemonFC; Nobody worries about damaging your car.
05:40 DaemonFC; Nobody worries about damaging your car.
05:40 DaemonFC; You're lucky if they don't just point a gun at you and say "That's my car now. Get out!".
05:40 DaemonFC; You're lucky if they don't just point a gun at you and say "That's my car now. Get out!".
05:41 DaemonFC; It's amazing how light Chicago gets off on the website about travel risk I'm reading.
05:41 DaemonFC; It's amazing how light Chicago gets off on the website about travel risk I'm reading.
05:41 DaemonFC; Carjackings in Chicago have gotten so bad that they even carjacked the state senate majority leader.
05:41 DaemonFC; Carjackings in Chicago have gotten so bad that they even carjacked the state senate majority leader.
05:42 DaemonFC; I'm sure that the police are working her case real hard after her defund the police bill.
05:42 DaemonFC; I'm sure that the police are working her case real hard after her defund the police bill.
05:42 DaemonFC; MinceR, Someone at the Catholic church was talking about Hell.
05:42 DaemonFC; MinceR, Someone at the Catholic church was talking about Hell.
05:43 DaemonFC; I said, "Actually, there is no Hell, but I hear Chicago's getting close.".
05:43 DaemonFC; I said, "Actually, there is no Hell, but I hear Chicago's getting close.".
05:44 DaemonFC; Christians are like Star Trek nerds.
05:44 DaemonFC; Christians are like Star Trek nerds.
05:44 DaemonFC; Huddling together, comparing the source material.
05:44 DaemonFC; Huddling together, comparing the source material.
05:44 DaemonFC; Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard.
05:44 DaemonFC; Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard.
05:49 DaemonFC; https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-states/
05:49 DaemonFC; https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-states/
05:49 TR Bot; How Safe Is United States for Travel? (2022 Updated) Travel Safe - Abroad
05:49 TR Bot; How Safe Is United States for Travel? (2022 Updated) Travel Safe - Abroad
05:49 DaemonFC; "This country is infamous for gun usage and the selling of guns, but the truth is that most violent crimes that do occur in the US, occur in suburbs or urban areas of some cities.
05:49 DaemonFC; It is by no means as widespread throughout the entire country as the media would have us believe."
05:49 DaemonFC; "This country is infamous for gun usage and the selling of guns, but the truth is that most violent crimes that do occur in the US, occur in suburbs or urban areas of some cities.
05:49 DaemonFC; It is by no means as widespread throughout the entire country as the media would have us believe."
05:50 DaemonFC; Yeah, because most of it is gang warfare in major cities which are unlivable cesspits anyway.
05:50 DaemonFC; Yeah, because most of it is gang warfare in major cities which are unlivable cesspits anyway.
05:50 DaemonFC; Even if you ignore the crime, the cost of living easily doubles (or more) so you wouldn't want to go there anyway if you were smart.
05:50 DaemonFC; Even if you ignore the crime, the cost of living easily doubles (or more) so you wouldn't want to go there anyway if you were smart.
05:50 DaemonFC; They don't mention that gun crime committed by people who were legally allowed to buy and sell guns is very uncommon.
05:50 DaemonFC; They don't mention that gun crime committed by people who were legally allowed to buy and sell guns is very uncommon.
05:51 DaemonFC; The areas of the country with the highest rates of legal gun ownership are also some of the safest area of the country to travel to.
05:51 DaemonFC; The areas of the country with the highest rates of legal gun ownership are also some of the safest area of the country to travel to.
05:51 DaemonFC; Usually, you'd be okay there even if you walk around at night or leave your car door unlocked.
05:51 DaemonFC; Usually, you'd be okay there even if you walk around at night or leave your car door unlocked.
05:52 DaemonFC; The criminal activity that tends to happen the most in rural areas where legal gun ownership is high tend to be someone smoking marijuana.
05:52 DaemonFC; The criminal activity that tends to happen the most in rural areas where legal gun ownership is high tend to be someone smoking marijuana.
05:53 DaemonFC; While I lived in a town in Indiana of about 37,000 where almost everyone had a gun in the house, there were 2 murders in 14 years.
05:53 DaemonFC; While I lived in a town in Indiana of about 37,000 where almost everyone had a gun in the house, there were 2 murders in 14 years.
05:54 DaemonFC; There was also a bank robbery, but amusingly enough he had a fake gun during the robbery.
05:54 DaemonFC; There was also a bank robbery, but amusingly enough he had a fake gun during the robbery.
05:55 DaemonFC; Of the two murders in the 14 years, neither of them happened involving a gun. One was a DEA agent who was burned to death and another was a guy who followed his cheating wife into a convenience store and stabbed her.
05:55 DaemonFC; Of the two murders in the 14 years, neither of them happened involving a gun. One was a DEA agent who was burned to death and another was a guy who followed his cheating wife into a convenience store and stabbed her.
05:55 DaemonFC; Quite frequently, I would walk around the entire town at night for something to do (exercise) with four or five thousand dollars cash in my pocket.
05:55 DaemonFC; Quite frequently, I would walk around the entire town at night for something to do (exercise) with four or five thousand dollars cash in my pocket.
05:56 DaemonFC; Nothing ever happened. Quite often I wouldn't even see one other person out, or sometimes just the sporadic traffic on US 30, which ran through the town.
05:56 DaemonFC; Nothing ever happened. Quite often I wouldn't even see one other person out, or sometimes just the sporadic traffic on US 30, which ran through the town.
05:57 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, in Chicago, three teenagers mugged me at gunpoint on month two and stole my phone.
05:57 DaemonFC; Meanwhile, in Chicago, three teenagers mugged me at gunpoint on month two and stole my phone.
05:57 DaemonFC; I didn't have any cash on me because I knew I was in a large city where a mugging was possible.
05:57 DaemonFC; I didn't have any cash on me because I knew I was in a large city where a mugging was possible.
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 426.13
05:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 25.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 426.13
05:59 DaemonFC; "Mass shootings" are just the new way of putting "the same gang violence that has always plagued shitholes like Chicago".
05:59 DaemonFC; "Mass shootings" are just the new way of putting "the same gang violence that has always plagued shitholes like Chicago".
05:59 DaemonFC; If you're literally anywhere else in Illinois, it's not very likely.
05:59 DaemonFC; If you're literally anywhere else in Illinois, it's not very likely.
06:00 DaemonFC; Liberals have to blame guns for the fact that criminal gangs are roaming the streets and it wouldn't be politically correct to jail them. Even though the state does pretty much fuck all about crime, Chicago is one of the most heavily surveiled cities in America, and even the world.
06:00 DaemonFC; Liberals have to blame guns for the fact that criminal gangs are roaming the streets and it wouldn't be politically correct to jail them. Even though the state does pretty much fuck all about crime, Chicago is one of the most heavily surveiled cities in America, and even the world.
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06:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 347.30
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07:52 matey; hooray for ibm, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers!
07:52 matey; hooray for ibm, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers, enterprisers!
07:52 matey; i read a cool article about enterprisers, and its red hats mcdonaldsland magic language that means "cio"
07:52 matey; i read a cool article about enterprisers, and its red hats mcdonaldsland magic language that means "cio"
07:53 matey; so theyre not cios anymore, theyre ENTERPRISERS now
07:53 matey; so theyre not cios anymore, theyre ENTERPRISERS now
07:53 matey; and i guess if youre an enterpriser, you do enterprising
07:53 matey; and i guess if youre an enterpriser, you do enterprising
07:53 matey; you know who else is an enterpriser? this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard
07:53 matey; you know who else is an enterpriser? this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Picard
07:53 TR Bot; Jean-Luc Picard - Wikipedia
07:53 TR Bot; Jean-Luc Picard - Wikipedia
07:54 matey; but hes not a cio, hes just a regular enterpriser
07:54 matey; but hes not a cio, hes just a regular enterpriser
07:54 matey; i wonder what ibm calls trekkies
07:54 matey; i wonder what ibm calls trekkies
07:55 matey; ibm should have a cool word for users too
07:55 matey; ibm should have a cool word for users too
07:55 matey; users do useops
07:55 matey; users do useops
07:55 SomeH4x0r; hi
07:55 SomeH4x0r; hi
07:55 matey; hi
07:55 matey; hi
07:55 matey; maybe theyre useoppers
07:55 matey; maybe theyre useoppers
07:56 matey; i dont know how ibms version of english works
07:56 matey; i dont know how ibms version of english works
07:56 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D228.jpg
07:56 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D228.jpg
07:56 matey; ibm is really laying it on thick
07:56 matey; ibm is really laying it on thick
07:57 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D585.jpg
07:57 TR News; [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D585.jpg
07:57 matey; theres a devops INSTITUTE
07:57 matey; theres a devops INSTITUTE
07:57 matey; mit is obsolete
07:57 matey; mit is obsolete
07:58 TR News; "I followed this blog as a teenager, and it made me fall in love with console applications. I discovered Linux around the age of 14 if I remember correctly, after I spent most of my childhood with DOS games from '93 or so" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/i-miss-kmandla.gmi
07:58 TR News; "I followed this blog as a teenager, and it made me fall in love with console applications. I discovered Linux around the age of 14 if I remember correctly, after I spent most of my childhood with DOS games from '93 or so" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/i-miss-kmandla.gmi
07:58 matey; theres no doctorate of devops at mit, just some old nonsense no one cares about anymore
07:58 matey; theres no doctorate of devops at mit, just some old nonsense no one cares about anymore
07:58 TR News; "I am tired so much because of allergy meds and just having hard time to sleep because general anxiety. What really annoys me about it is that I have drive to work on my own programming projects but no energy." gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/2022-05-10-Constantly-tired.gmi
07:58 TR News; "I am tired so much because of allergy meds and just having hard time to sleep because general anxiety. What really annoys me about it is that I have drive to work on my own programming projects but no energy." gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/2022-05-10-Constantly-tired.gmi
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 17.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 401.00
07:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 17.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 401.00
08:00 TR News; Superhighway84 on FreeBSD gemini://rawtext.club/~ecliptik/_posts/2022-01-17-Superhighway84-on-FreeBSD.gmi
08:00 TR News; Superhighway84 on FreeBSD gemini://rawtext.club/~ecliptik/_posts/2022-01-17-Superhighway84-on-FreeBSD.gmi
08:00 TR News; Gemini Radio - Episode 40 gemini://kwiecien.us/gemcast/20220511.gmi
08:00 TR News; Gemini Radio - Episode 40 gemini://kwiecien.us/gemcast/20220511.gmi
08:06 TR News; "Fedora Linux 36 is officially out now, after a number of delays as the Fedora team don't like to rush things out" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/fedora-linux-36-is-officially-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR News; "Fedora Linux 36 is officially out now, after a number of delays as the Fedora team don't like to rush things out" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/fedora-linux-36-is-officially-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR Bot; Linux 36 is officially out now | GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR Bot; Linux 36 is officially out now | GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR News; "AMD has today announced the expansion of the Radeon RX 6000 Series" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/amd-releases-the-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx-6750-xt-and-rx-6650-xt/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR News; "AMD has today announced the expansion of the Radeon RX 6000 Series" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/amd-releases-the-radeon-rx-6950-xt-rx-6750-xt-and-rx-6650-xt/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR Bot; releases the Radeon RX 6950 XT, RX 6750 XT and RX 6650 XT | GamingOnLinux
08:06 TR Bot; releases the Radeon RX 6950 XT, RX 6750 XT and RX 6650 XT | GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR News; "Intel are set to fully enter the dedicated GPU game soon with Intel Arc" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/intel-gives-an-unclear-update-on-when-to-expect-intel-arc-gpu-availability/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR News; "Intel are set to fully enter the dedicated GPU game soon with Intel Arc" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/intel-gives-an-unclear-update-on-when-to-expect-intel-arc-gpu-availability/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR Bot; gives an unclear update on when to expect Intel Arc GPU availability | GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR Bot; gives an unclear update on when to expect Intel Arc GPU availability | GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR News; "Do you have an iPad or an iPhone laying around or as one of your main devices? Now you can use them to interact with your Linux PC a little easier." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/manage-your-linux-pc-remotely-as-kde-connect-lands-on-iphone-and-ipad/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR News; "Do you have an iPad or an iPhone laying around or as one of your main devices? Now you can use them to interact with your Linux PC a little easier." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/manage-your-linux-pc-remotely-as-kde-connect-lands-on-iphone-and-ipad/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR Bot; your Linux PC remotely as KDE Connect lands on iPhone and iPad | GamingOnLinux
08:07 TR Bot; your Linux PC remotely as KDE Connect lands on iPhone and iPad | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; "Need some fresh games for your desktop or Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/
08:10 TR News; "Need some fresh games for your desktop or Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
↺ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/save-loads-on-tons-of-games-in-the-humble-store-spring-sale/
08:10 TR Bot; loads on tons of games in the Humble Store Spring Sale | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; loads on tons of games in the Humble Store Spring Sale | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; Urban Games and Good Shepherd Entertainment https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/transport-fever-2-patch-adds-more-control-new-options-and-extends-modding/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; Urban Games and Good Shepherd Entertainment https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/transport-fever-2-patch-adds-more-control-new-options-and-extends-modding/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; Fever 2 patch adds more control, new options and extends modding | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; Fever 2 patch adds more control, new options and extends modding | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; "Perhaps an answer to "Deck Neck" where your neck starts to hurt staring down at the Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/viture-one-xr-glasses-look-fun-paired-up-with-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; "Perhaps an answer to "Deck Neck" where your neck starts to hurt staring down at the Steam Deck?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/viture-one-xr-glasses-look-fun-paired-up-with-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; One XR glasses look fun paired up with a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; One XR glasses look fun paired up with a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; "Not exactly a big surprise given the price but the Steam Deck has managed to stay at number 1 of the Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers list." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/sorted-by-revenue-the-steam-deck-has-been-the-number-1-top-seller-for-4-weeks/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR News; "Not exactly a big surprise given the price but the Steam Deck has managed to stay at number 1 of the Steam Weekly Global Top Sellers list." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/sorted-by-revenue-the-steam-deck-has-been-the-number-1-top-seller-for-4-weeks/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; by revenue, the Steam Deck has been the number 1 top seller for 4 weeks | GamingOnLinux
08:10 TR Bot; by revenue, the Steam Deck has been the number 1 top seller for 4 weeks | GamingOnLinux
08:11 TR News; "Today I gave a keynote address at Red Hat Summit; the following is an excerpt from that talk" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-normal-it-starts-open-source | Source: Red Hat Official
08:11 TR News; "Today I gave a keynote address at Red Hat Summit; the following is an excerpt from that talk" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-normal-it-starts-open-source | Source: Red Hat Official
08:11 TR Bot; The new normal for IT starts with open source
08:11 TR Bot; The new normal for IT starts with open source
08:12 TR News; Red Hat chasing cars (they rarely run Red Hat) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-standard-red-hat-vehicle-operating-system-modern-and-future-vehicles | Source: Red Hat Official
08:12 TR News; Red Hat chasing cars (they rarely run Red Hat) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-standard-red-hat-vehicle-operating-system-modern-and-future-vehicles | Source: Red Hat Official
08:12 TR Bot; The new standard: Red Hat In-Vehicle Operating System in modern and future vehicles
08:12 TR Bot; The new standard: Red Hat In-Vehicle Operating System in modern and future vehicles
08:12 TR News; "Are your edge computing systems secure?" Red Hat upselling "security" (not a fair business model) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-edge | Source: Red Hat Official
08:12 TR News; "Are your edge computing systems secure?" Red Hat upselling "security" (not a fair business model) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-edge | Source: Red Hat Official
08:12 TR Bot; Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux at the edge
08:12 TR Bot; Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux at the edge
08:12 TR News; "It supports a vast choice of hardware architectures from x86 to Arm to Power and Z" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/fueling-spark-innovation | Source: Red Hat Official
08:12 TR News; "It supports a vast choice of hardware architectures from x86 to Arm to Power and Z" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/fueling-spark-innovation | Source: Red Hat Official
08:13 TR Bot; Fueling the spark of innovation
08:13 TR Bot; Fueling the spark of innovation
08:15 TR News; "The Canaan Kendryte K510 SoC is composed of two RISC-V64 processors (up to 800MHz) and a RISC-V DSP" https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
08:15 TR News; "The Canaan Kendryte K510 SoC is composed of two RISC-V64 processors (up to 800MHz) and a RISC-V DSP" https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
08:15 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ )
08:15 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/canaan-risc-v-based-development-board-targets-ai-applications/ )
08:15 TR News; eurobsdcon https://2022.eurobsdcon.org/the-call-for-talk-and-presentation-proposals-for-eurobsdcon-2022-is-now-open/
08:15 TR News; eurobsdcon https://2022.eurobsdcon.org/the-call-for-talk-and-presentation-proposals-for-eurobsdcon-2022-is-now-open/
08:15 TR Bot; Call for Proposals EuroBSDCon
08:15 TR Bot; Call for Proposals EuroBSDCon
08:16 TR News; iophk: police /are/ also civilians https://globalnews.ca/news/8821796/alabama-escaped-inmate-officer-caught/
08:16 TR Bot; Alabama prison officer dies after police capture escaped inmate in Indiana - National | Globalnews.ca
08:16 TR News; iophk: police /are/ also civilians https://globalnews.ca/news/8821796/alabama-escaped-inmate-officer-caught/
08:16 TR Bot; Alabama prison officer dies after police capture escaped inmate in Indiana - National | Globalnews.ca
08:16 TR News; thunderbird
08:16 TR News; thunderbird
08:16 TR News; thunderbird
08:16 TR News; thunderbird
08:20 TR News; Work with Us Thunderbird https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/careers/ Source: thunderbird
08:20 TR Bot; Work with Us Thunderbird
08:20 TR News; Work with Us Thunderbird https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/careers/ Source: thunderbird
08:20 TR Bot; Work with Us Thunderbird
08:20 TR News; Social control media harmful https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-brain-explained-why-some-kids-seem-hooked-on-social-video-feeds-11648866192 WSL paywall
08:20 TR News; Social control media harmful https://www.wsj.com/articles/tiktok-brain-explained-why-some-kids-seem-hooked-on-social-video-feeds-11648866192 WSL paywall
08:20 TR Bot; Brain Explained: Why Some Kids Seem Hooked on Social Video Feeds - WSJ
08:20 TR Bot; Brain Explained: Why Some Kids Seem Hooked on Social Video Feeds - WSJ
08:22 TR News; Ransomware is mostly a Windows issue; but securityboulevard won't tell you that https://securityboulevard.com/2022/05/blackcat-ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/
08:22 TR News; Ransomware is mostly a Windows issue; but securityboulevard won't tell you that https://securityboulevard.com/2022/05/blackcat-ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/
08:22 TR Bot; BlackCat Ransomware - Security Boulevard
08:22 TR Bot; BlackCat Ransomware - Security Boulevard
08:22 TR Bot; Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights
08:22 TR Bot; Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights
08:24 TR News; Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies (better to avoid these completely) https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/simstrategy:c Source: RobBraxmanTech
08:24 TR News; Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies (better to avoid these completely) https://odysee.com/@RobBraxmanTech:6/simstrategy:c Source: RobBraxmanTech
08:24 TR Bot; Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies
08:24 TR Bot; Phone SIM Card Use Privacy Strategies
08:25 TR News; China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/china-to-ditch-50-mil-windows-pcs-for:b Source: BrodieRobertson
08:25 TR News; China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/china-to-ditch-50-mil-windows-pcs-for:b Source: BrodieRobertson
08:25 TR Bot; China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux
08:25 TR Bot; China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux
08:25 TR News; Clownflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/08/1745203 Source: soylentnews
08:25 TR News; Clownflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/08/1745203 Source: soylentnews
08:25 TR Bot; Cloudflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews
08:25 TR Bot; Cloudflare Browser Integrity Check Blocking Many Non-Mainstream Browsers - SoylentNews
08:26 TR News; OpenPGP https://iacr.org/submit/files/slides/2022/rwc/rwc2022/76/slides.pdf
08:26 TR News; OpenPGP https://iacr.org/submit/files/slides/2022/rwc/rwc2022/76/slides.pdf
08:27 TR News; "Heads up! The OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming!!! After the difficult pandemic times" https://ubuntu.com//blog/openinfra-summit-berlin | Source: Ubuntu
08:27 TR News; "Heads up! The OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming!!! After the difficult pandemic times" https://ubuntu.com//blog/openinfra-summit-berlin | Source: Ubuntu
08:27 TR Bot; Summit Berlin is coming | Ubuntu
08:27 TR Bot; Summit Berlin is coming | Ubuntu
08:28 TR News; iophk: "something about Windoze workstations that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage" https://ubuntu.com//blog/hp-brings-ubuntu-wsl-data-science | Source: Ubuntu
08:28 TR News; iophk: "something about Windoze workstations that article is Canonical pushing WSL to (knowingly or unknowingly) destroy or at least hurt GNU/Linux adoption / usage" https://ubuntu.com//blog/hp-brings-ubuntu-wsl-data-science | Source: Ubuntu
08:28 TR Bot; brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu
08:28 TR Bot; brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu
08:29 TR News; Canonical is not a GNU/Linux company. Mark Shuttleworth quit caring. About "bug #1"... https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 | Source: Ubuntu
08:29 TR News; Canonical is not a GNU/Linux company. Mark Shuttleworth quit caring. About "bug #1"... https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-on-mac-with-multipass-1-9 | Source: Ubuntu
08:29 TR Bot; on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu
08:29 TR Bot; on Mac takes the next step with Multipass 1.9 | Ubuntu
08:29 TR News; Biden protects the patent monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/world/covid-vaccine-patents-biden/ | Source: The Nation
08:29 TR News; Biden protects the patent monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/world/covid-vaccine-patents-biden/ | Source: The Nation
08:29 TR Bot; Biden Must Not Allow Big Pharma to Hoard Vaccine Technology | The Nation
08:29 TR Bot; Biden Must Not Allow Big Pharma to Hoard Vaccine Technology | The Nation
08:31 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/
08:31 TR News; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/irc-log-100522/
08:31 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights
08:31 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 | Techrights
08:31 TR News; Clounflare is cancer on the Web. It needs to be ERADICATED, not "worked around".
08:31 TR News; Clounflare is cancer on the Web. It needs to be ERADICATED, not "worked around".
08:32 TR News; EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF
08:32 TR News; EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/what-companies-can-do-now-protect-digital-rights-post-roe-world | Source: EFF
08:32 TR Bot; What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:32 TR Bot; What Companies Can Do Now to Protect Digital Rights In A Post-Roe World | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:32 TR News; EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF
08:32 TR News; EFF and Roe (yes, EFF is run by women to focus on women's rights, more so than tech rights) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/reproductive-privacy-requires-data-privacy | Source: EFF
08:32 TR Bot; Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:32 TR Bot; Reproductive Privacy Requires Data Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation
08:34 TR News; "Weve been running the Gender Balance in Computing programme of research since 2019" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
↺ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/
08:34 TR News; "Weve been running the Gender Balance in Computing programme of research since 2019" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
↺ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/
08:34 TR Bot; A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi
08:34 TR Bot; A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi
08:34 SomeH4x0r; you mean they elected a woman *just for this*? Evil, if so.
08:34 SomeH4x0r; you mean they elected a woman *just for this*? Evil, if so.
08:35 schestowitz-TR; no, it's nothing like that
08:35 schestowitz-TR; no, it's nothing like that
08:35 schestowitz-TR; women's rights are important
08:35 schestowitz-TR; women's rights are important
08:35 schestowitz-TR; but EFF is not that
08:35 schestowitz-TR; but EFF is not that
08:35 schestowitz-TR; EFF was founded by 3 men to focus on cyberspace
08:35 schestowitz-TR; EFF was founded by 3 men to focus on cyberspace
08:35 schestowitz-TR; and EFF has this longstanding pattern of deviating away
08:35 schestowitz-TR; and EFF has this longstanding pattern of deviating away
08:36 schestowitz-TR; months ago they kicked out a cofounder
08:36 schestowitz-TR; months ago they kicked out a cofounder
08:36 SomeH4x0r; women's right are important, as long as it does not turn into SJW toxicity
08:36 SomeH4x0r; women's right are important, as long as it does not turn into SJW toxicity
08:36 schestowitz-TR; years after the chief one had died
08:36 schestowitz-TR; years after the chief one had died
08:36 schestowitz-TR; and now EFF seems to be used for personal projects
08:36 schestowitz-TR; and now EFF seems to be used for personal projects
08:36 schestowitz-TR; not the charter
08:36 schestowitz-TR; not the charter
08:36 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: abortion seems outside the scope of EFF
08:36 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: abortion seems outside the scope of EFF
08:36 schestowitz-TR; it's a loaded subject
08:36 schestowitz-TR; it's a loaded subject
08:36 schestowitz-TR; on many levels
08:36 schestowitz-TR; on many levels
08:36 schestowitz-TR; and not a tech issue
08:36 schestowitz-TR; and not a tech issue
08:37 schestowitz-TR; imagine techrights doing articles about abortion
08:37 schestowitz-TR; imagine techrights doing articles about abortion
08:37 schestowitz-TR; it would make no sense
08:37 schestowitz-TR; it would make no sense
08:37 schestowitz-TR; surreal
08:37 schestowitz-TR; surreal
08:37 schestowitz-TR; yesterday was their third of forth article about Roe
08:37 schestowitz-TR; yesterday was their third of forth article about Roe
08:37 schestowitz-TR; EFF posts maybe, on average, 2 posts per day
08:37 schestowitz-TR; EFF posts maybe, on average, 2 posts per day
08:38 Techrights-sec; not just women's rights but a subset; The EFF was founded to serve in everybody;s interests not justa subset of subset
08:38 Techrights-sec; not just women's rights but a subset; The EFF was founded to serve in everybody;s interests not justa subset of subset
08:39 schestowitz-TR; some women are pro-abortion
08:39 schestowitz-TR; some women are pro-abortion
08:39 matey; eff ha s no credibility
08:39 matey; eff ha s no credibility
08:39 schestowitz-TR; so the EFF splits members apart
08:39 schestowitz-TR; so the EFF splits members apart
08:39 schestowitz-TR; not along lines of tech
08:39 schestowitz-TR; not along lines of tech
08:39 schestowitz-TR; or risks splitting apart
08:39 schestowitz-TR; or risks splitting apart
08:39 matey; theyve taken everything they ALREADY stood for and flushed it
08:39 matey; theyve taken everything they ALREADY stood for and flushed it
08:39 schestowitz-TR; on issues of tech
08:39 schestowitz-TR; on issues of tech
08:39 schestowitz-TR; based on beliefs on morals of abortion
08:39 schestowitz-TR; based on beliefs on morals of abortion
08:39 matey; so what difference does it make when they stand for something else?
08:39 matey; so what difference does it make when they stand for something else?
08:39 Techrights-sec; *nowadays* they have a pattern of going off track, but for many years they
08:39 Techrights-sec; were focused
08:39 Techrights-sec; *nowadays* they have a pattern of going off track, but for many years they
08:39 Techrights-sec; were focused
08:39 Techrights-sec; yep, people using it for personal projects sums it up
08:39 Techrights-sec; yep, people using it for personal projects sums it up
08:39 matey; again, theyve shown they can walk away from anything they stand for
08:39 matey; again, theyve shown they can walk away from anything they stand for
08:39 matey; once you have no credibility, you stand for nothing at all
08:39 matey; once you have no credibility, you stand for nothing at all
08:40 matey; its just a show
08:40 matey; its just a show
08:40 matey; pure bullshit, doesnt matter what cause its for
08:40 matey; pure bullshit, doesnt matter what cause its for
08:40 matey; the eff stands for zero causes
08:40 matey; the eff stands for zero causes
08:40 matey; theyre a brand for hire
08:40 matey; theyre a brand for hire
08:40 matey; give them money, theyll say something
08:40 matey; give them money, theyll say something
08:40 schestowitz-TR; that's what mark cuban did
08:40 schestowitz-TR; that's what mark cuban did
08:40 schestowitz-TR; he paid them
08:40 schestowitz-TR; he paid them
08:40 schestowitz-TR; so they campaigned on patents
08:40 schestowitz-TR; so they campaigned on patents
08:41 schestowitz-TR; I said this was problematic
08:41 schestowitz-TR; I said this was problematic
08:41 schestowitz-TR; billionaires taking eff as lobby for hire
08:41 schestowitz-TR; billionaires taking eff as lobby for hire
08:41 schestowitz-TR; provided it roughly aligns with some goals
08:41 schestowitz-TR; provided it roughly aligns with some goals
08:41 schestowitz-TR; mark cuban also invested in some patent troll
08:41 schestowitz-TR; mark cuban also invested in some patent troll
08:41 schestowitz-TR; but the issue is
08:41 schestowitz-TR; but the issue is
08:41 schestowitz-TR; member pay due fees
08:41 schestowitz-TR; member pay due fees
08:41 schestowitz-TR; and then comes some billionaire
08:41 schestowitz-TR; and then comes some billionaire
08:41 schestowitz-TR; drop a million
08:41 schestowitz-TR; drop a million
08:41 schestowitz-TR; staff gets hired for his pet project
08:41 schestowitz-TR; staff gets hired for his pet project
08:41 schestowitz-TR; while mentioning his name
08:41 schestowitz-TR; while mentioning his name
08:41 schestowitz-TR; in the JOB TITLE
08:41 schestowitz-TR; in the JOB TITLE
08:41 schestowitz-TR; to praise him
08:41 schestowitz-TR; to praise him
08:42 matey; i wonder if mark cuban is an enterpriser
08:42 matey; i wonder if mark cuban is an enterpriser
08:42 schestowitz-TR; that was when Barlow was still in charge BTW
08:42 schestowitz-TR; that was when Barlow was still in charge BTW
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08:42 matey; im not an enterpriser, i just do useops
08:42 matey; im not an enterpriser, i just do useops
08:42 matey; useops are what users do, before they move up to devops and enterprising
08:42 matey; useops are what users do, before they move up to devops and enterprising
08:42 Techrights-sec; :( it seems to be getting that way
08:42 Techrights-sec; :( it seems to be getting that way
08:43 matey; useoppers and devoppers are like a totally different race (ibm is expert on this)
08:43 matey; useoppers and devoppers are like a totally different race (ibm is expert on this)
08:43 matey; enterprisers will set them straight
08:43 matey; enterprisers will set them straight
08:45 matey; enterprisers lead the devwaffen
08:45 matey; enterprisers lead the devwaffen
08:45 schestowitz-TR; waffen :-)
08:45 schestowitz-TR; waffen :-)
08:45 matey; ibms elite forces
08:45 matey; ibms elite forces
08:45 schestowitz-TR; the eneterprises waffen
08:45 schestowitz-TR; the eneterprises waffen
08:45 schestowitz-TR; hey hi smart clown
08:45 schestowitz-TR; hey hi smart clown
08:45 matey; clownwaffen
08:45 matey; clownwaffen
08:45 schestowitz-TR; "OBEY!!'
08:45 schestowitz-TR; "OBEY!!'
08:45 schestowitz-TR; "or STFU"
08:45 schestowitz-TR; "or STFU"
08:46 matey; /me pictures a swastika made out of opening square brackets
08:46 matey; /me pictures a swastika made out of opening square brackets
08:46 schestowitz-TR; anti-RMS opportunists called it founder complex
08:46 schestowitz-TR; anti-RMS opportunists called it founder complex
08:46 schestowitz-TR; as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing
08:46 schestowitz-TR; as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing
08:46 schestowitz-TR; when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true
08:46 schestowitz-TR; when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true
08:46 Techrights-sec; ack
08:46 Techrights-sec; ack
08:47 matey; well thats the thing, we had 20 years of torvalds worship
08:47 matey; well thats the thing, we had 20 years of torvalds worship
08:47 matey; then just short of the revelation that he invented 1s and 0s
08:47 matey; then just short of the revelation that he invented 1s and 0s
08:47 matey; they cancelled him, did stallman identically
08:47 matey; they cancelled him, did stallman identically
08:47 matey; and then had the audacity to imply that it was stallman, not torvalds who was sucking up hero worship
08:47 matey; and then had the audacity to imply that it was stallman, not torvalds who was sucking up hero worship
08:48 matey; thats the thing about marketing though
08:48 matey; thats the thing about marketing though
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08:48 matey; once you remove the bullshit ediface from everything used to build up torvalds, so it could be pivoted to a corporate brand
08:48 matey; once you remove the bullshit ediface from everything used to build up torvalds, so it could be pivoted to a corporate brand
08:48 matey; the linus foundation
08:48 matey; the linus foundation
08:48 matey; you poison the well and blame someone else
08:48 matey; you poison the well and blame someone else
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08:48 matey; open source: worshipped torvalds for two decades
08:48 matey; open source: worshipped torvalds for two decades
08:49 matey; also open source: people who defend stallman are hero worshippers
08:49 matey; also open source: people who defend stallman are hero worshippers
08:49 Techrights-sec; indeed
08:49 Techrights-sec; indeed
08:49 matey; people who defend stallman are standing against history being rewritten
08:49 matey; people who defend stallman are standing against history being rewritten
08:49 matey; but you cant defend history or its "hero worship"
08:49 matey; but you cant defend history or its "hero worship"
08:49 matey; fuck these people
08:49 matey; fuck these people
08:49 schestowitz-TR; people who oppose OSI lying are homophobic
08:49 schestowitz-TR; people who oppose OSI lying are homophobic
08:49 SomeH4x0r; I dislike hero worshipping, that's why I'm on the "evil" side
08:49 SomeH4x0r; I dislike hero worshipping, that's why I'm on the "evil" side
08:49 matey; youre an idiot sometimes. this is one of them.
08:49 matey; youre an idiot sometimes. this is one of them.
08:50 matey; hero worshipping is a red herring.
08:50 matey; hero worshipping is a red herring.
08:50 matey; its a straw man
08:50 matey; its a straw man
08:50 Techrights-sec; yes
08:50 Techrights-sec; yes
08:50 matey; its got fuck-all to do with hero worship
08:50 matey; its got fuck-all to do with hero worship
08:51 matey; to be fair, i fell for all this open source bullshit once too
08:51 matey; to be fair, i fell for all this open source bullshit once too
08:51 matey; many years ago
08:51 matey; many years ago
08:51 matey; but its so smarmy and contrived
08:51 matey; but its so smarmy and contrived
08:51 TR News; "A worsening shortage of baby formula in stores across the U.S. is highlighting the urgent need for antitrust regulations" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-iron-grip-market-monopolies-behind-baby-formula-shortage | Source: Common Dreams
08:51 TR News; "A worsening shortage of baby formula in stores across the U.S. is highlighting the urgent need for antitrust regulations" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-iron-grip-market-monopolies-behind-baby-formula-shortage | Source: Common Dreams
08:51 TR Bot; Critics Say 'Iron-Grip on Market' by Monopolies Behind Baby Formula Shortage
08:51 TR Bot; Critics Say 'Iron-Grip on Market' by Monopolies Behind Baby Formula Shortage
08:51 matey; at some point you either get wise to it
08:51 matey; at some point you either get wise to it
08:51 matey; or it changes you
08:51 matey; or it changes you
08:52 matey; then you end up spouting bullshit forever
08:52 matey; then you end up spouting bullshit forever
08:52 matey; good luck
08:52 matey; good luck
08:55 TR News; Josh Simmons' employer is enabling this surveillance; does OSI know? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/it-time-end-inhumane-ice-surveillance-immigrants-me | Source: Common Dreams
08:55 TR News; Josh Simmons' employer is enabling this surveillance; does OSI know? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/it-time-end-inhumane-ice-surveillance-immigrants-me | Source: Common Dreams
08:55 TR Bot; Opinion | It Is Time to End Inhumane ICE Surveillance of Immigrants Like Me | Berto Hernandez
08:55 TR Bot; Opinion | It Is Time to End Inhumane ICE Surveillance of Immigrants Like Me | Berto Hernandez
08:56 TR News; So-called "cryptomining" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/50-groups-challenge-biden-rein-climate-killing-cryptomining | Source: Common Dreams
08:56 TR News; So-called "cryptomining" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/50-groups-challenge-biden-rein-climate-killing-cryptomining | Source: Common Dreams
08:56 TR Bot; 50+ Groups Challenge Biden to Rein In 'Climate-Killing Cryptomining'
08:56 TR Bot; 50+ Groups Challenge Biden to Rein In 'Climate-Killing Cryptomining'
08:57 TR News; "Dont feel bad if you dont know what Cistercian numbers are. Unless youre a monk of the Order of Cistercia" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/number-like-its-1234-ad-with-this-cistercian-keypad/ | Source: Hackaday
08:57 TR News; "Dont feel bad if you dont know what Cistercian numbers are. Unless youre a monk of the Order of Cistercia" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/number-like-its-1234-ad-with-this-cistercian-keypad/ | Source: Hackaday
08:57 TR Bot; Like Its 1234 AD With This Cistercian Keypad | Hackaday
08:57 TR Bot; Like Its 1234 AD With This Cistercian Keypad | Hackaday
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 459.86
08:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 459.86
09:02 matey; <schestowitz-TR> as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing <schestowitz-TR> when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true <Techrights-sec> ack <- its a problem, theyre just not honest about it
09:02 matey; <schestowitz-TR> as if a founder staying onboard is a bad thing <schestowitz-TR> when in reality there's ampe evidence the opposite is true <Techrights-sec> ack <- its a problem, theyre just not honest about it
09:02 matey; theyre opportunistic
09:02 matey; theyre opportunistic
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09:03 matey; everyone knows the fsf is going to change. thats why like any unstable region gets manipulated by empires, open source and the tech industry in general is attacking with more of their bs than ever before
09:03 matey; everyone knows the fsf is going to change. thats why like any unstable region gets manipulated by empires, open source and the tech industry in general is attacking with more of their bs than ever before
09:03 matey; the power vacuum is already here
09:03 matey; the power vacuum is already here
09:03 matey; its even been evenly distributed
09:03 matey; its even been evenly distributed
09:04 matey; the fsf reminds me so much of iraq its unreal
09:04 matey; the fsf reminds me so much of iraq its unreal
09:04 matey; there are other (even more interesting) historical parallels
09:04 matey; there are other (even more interesting) historical parallels
09:04 matey; but people know what happened in iraq was bullshit
09:04 matey; but people know what happened in iraq was bullshit
09:04 schestowitz-TR; but iraq?
09:04 schestowitz-TR; but iraq?
09:04 schestowitz-TR; how so?
09:04 schestowitz-TR; how so?
09:05 schestowitz-TR; saddam?
09:05 schestowitz-TR; saddam?
09:05 schestowitz-TR; and what happened after?
09:05 schestowitz-TR; and what happened after?
09:05 matey; the connection to iraq only has a couple points, but theyre very big points
09:05 matey; the connection to iraq only has a couple points, but theyre very big points
09:05 matey; its only sort of about saddam, an unfortunate (unintended) side effect of this analogy is that rms is saddam of course
09:05 matey; its only sort of about saddam, an unfortunate (unintended) side effect of this analogy is that rms is saddam of course
09:05 matey; but its not about that, its about the situation (not the leader)
09:05 matey; but its not about that, its about the situation (not the leader)
09:05 TR News; Framework https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/framework-board-gets-this-round-display-pc-rolling/ | Source: Hackaday
09:05 TR News; Framework https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/framework-board-gets-this-round-display-pc-rolling/ | Source: Hackaday
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09:05 TR Bot; Board Gets This Round Display PC Rolling | Hackaday
09:06 matey; and about what the invasion was about, and how it worked
09:06 matey; and about what the invasion was about, and how it worked
09:06 TR News; "As with any other community, it takes all kinds to make the keyboard world go round." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/thinnest-keyboard-uses-cherry-diy-doubleshot-method/ | Source: Hackaday
09:06 TR News; "As with any other community, it takes all kinds to make the keyboard world go round." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/thinnest-keyboard-uses-cherry-diy-doubleshot-method/ | Source: Hackaday
09:06 TR Bot; Keyboard Uses Cherry DIY Doubleshot Method | Hackaday
09:06 TR Bot; Keyboard Uses Cherry DIY Doubleshot Method | Hackaday
09:06 matey; saddam was of course, a really shitty leader-- but it missed the point because no one had any intent of fixing that problem
09:06 matey; saddam was of course, a really shitty leader-- but it missed the point because no one had any intent of fixing that problem
09:07 matey; first, he was a secular leader, not a religious one
09:07 matey; first, he was a secular leader, not a religious one
09:07 matey; so even if he was shit, now the region is overrun with violent religious extremists
09:07 matey; so even if he was shit, now the region is overrun with violent religious extremists
09:07 matey; thats not really an improvement is it
09:07 matey; thats not really an improvement is it
09:07 schestowitz-TR; some benefit from this chaos
09:07 schestowitz-TR; some benefit from this chaos
09:07 schestowitz-TR; esp. rival countries
09:07 schestowitz-TR; esp. rival countries
09:07 matey; of course, and that IS the point
09:07 matey; of course, and that IS the point
09:07 matey; it was about stealing resources
09:07 matey; it was about stealing resources
09:07 matey; and the real enemy was in saudi arabia
09:07 matey; and the real enemy was in saudi arabia
09:08 matey; but you cant invade an ally.
09:08 matey; but you cant invade an ally.
09:08 matey; so lets go to iraq. AGAIN
09:08 matey; so lets go to iraq. AGAIN
09:08 matey; and lets pick on france (who i dont even like) because they wont sign onto this bullshit mass murder scam
09:08 matey; and lets pick on france (who i dont even like) because they wont sign onto this bullshit mass murder scam
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09:09 matey; say what you will about the french, they were spot on about the iraq invasion
09:09 matey; say what you will about the french, they were spot on about the iraq invasion
09:09 schestowitz-TR; don't know about the french
09:09 schestowitz-TR; don't know about the french
09:09 schestowitz-TR; jaques [spelling]
09:09 schestowitz-TR; jaques [spelling]
09:10 matey; the scam was that people would go in and replace saddam with a non-tyrant
09:10 matey; the scam was that people would go in and replace saddam with a non-tyrant
09:10 schestowitz-TR; he was the one obstructing it
09:10 schestowitz-TR; he was the one obstructing it
09:10 schestowitz-TR; we wrote a lot about him in 2019
09:10 schestowitz-TR; we wrote a lot about him in 2019
09:10 matey; as far as i know that was more recent
09:10 matey; as far as i know that was more recent
09:10 matey; the iraq invasion happened 19 years ago
09:10 matey; the iraq invasion happened 19 years ago
09:10 schestowitz-TR; us likes to leave countries in disarray
09:10 schestowitz-TR; us likes to leave countries in disarray
09:10 matey; and i remember the one under bush sr
09:10 matey; and i remember the one under bush sr
09:10 schestowitz-TR; the british invaded many places
09:10 schestowitz-TR; the british invaded many places
09:10 schestowitz-TR; but they often ended up better off than neighbours
09:10 schestowitz-TR; but they often ended up better off than neighbours
09:10 schestowitz-TR; nairobi, singapore etc.
09:10 schestowitz-TR; nairobi, singapore etc.
09:11 schestowitz-TR; us mostly bombs places
09:11 schestowitz-TR; us mostly bombs places
09:11 matey; usa foreign policy is to british foreign policy as microsoft tactics are to ibm probably
09:11 matey; usa foreign policy is to british foreign policy as microsoft tactics are to ibm probably
09:11 schestowitz-TR; because it cannot get its way
09:11 schestowitz-TR; because it cannot get its way
09:11 schestowitz-TR; so resorts to revenge destruction
09:11 schestowitz-TR; so resorts to revenge destruction
09:11 matey; and i mean british empire foreign policy
09:11 matey; and i mean british empire foreign policy
09:11 schestowitz-TR; ibm is older and is less known for destruciton
09:11 schestowitz-TR; ibm is older and is less known for destruciton
09:11 schestowitz-TR; rather than FUD etc.
09:11 schestowitz-TR; rather than FUD etc.
09:11 matey; when it had more empireisers (their relationship to enterprisers is yet to be fully established)
09:11 matey; when it had more empireisers (their relationship to enterprisers is yet to be fully established)
09:12 schestowitz-TR; you don't heard people say
09:12 schestowitz-TR; you don't heard people say
09:12 matey; microsoft learned MOST of its tactics from ibm
09:12 matey; microsoft learned MOST of its tactics from ibm
09:12 schestowitz-TR; "watch our for those IBMers... they have entered to kill us"
09:12 schestowitz-TR; "watch our for those IBMers... they have entered to kill us"
09:12 schestowitz-TR; that's a Microsoft thinmg
09:12 schestowitz-TR; that's a Microsoft thinmg
09:12 schestowitz-TR; a cult
09:12 schestowitz-TR; a cult
09:12 matey; though its sort of like the cult of scientology under miscaviage vs when it was a cult under l ron hubbard
09:12 matey; though its sort of like the cult of scientology under miscaviage vs when it was a cult under l ron hubbard
09:12 matey; its more ruthless (it was never nice to begin with)
09:12 matey; its more ruthless (it was never nice to begin with)
09:13 TR News; Slave lady meets Orban https://telex.hu/english/2022/05/10/von-der-leyen-after-her-meeting-with-orban-some-progress-was-made | Source: Hungary http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/
09:13 TR News; Slave lady meets Orban https://telex.hu/english/2022/05/10/von-der-leyen-after-her-meeting-with-orban-some-progress-was-made | Source: Hungary http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/
09:13 TR Bot; Telex: Von der Leyen after her meeting with Orbn: Some progress was made
09:13 TR Bot; Telex: Von der Leyen after her meeting with Orbn: Some progress was made
09:13 matey; microsoft is more ruthless (a cult) than ibm
09:13 matey; microsoft is more ruthless (a cult) than ibm
09:13 TR Bot; Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights
09:13 TR Bot; Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights
09:13 matey; ibm sends lawyers
09:13 matey; ibm sends lawyers
09:13 matey; microsoft sends thugs
09:13 matey; microsoft sends thugs
09:13 matey; and lawyers
09:13 matey; and lawyers
09:13 matey; and bullshit artists
09:13 matey; and bullshit artists
09:13 schestowitz; speaking of sending laywers http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
09:13 schestowitz; speaking of sending laywers http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
09:13 TR Bot; Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
09:13 TR Bot; Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
09:13 matey; heh
09:13 matey; heh
09:14 schestowitz; now the Gates-bribed media distracts again
09:14 schestowitz; now the Gates-bribed media distracts again
09:14 schestowitz; painting Gates as victim of COVID
09:14 schestowitz; painting Gates as victim of COVID
09:14 schestowitz; NPR
09:14 schestowitz; NPR
09:14 schestowitz; maybe more
09:14 schestowitz; maybe more
09:14 matey; mit is so dirty id be happy to see it fall
09:14 matey; mit is so dirty id be happy to see it fall
09:14 schestowitz; he's trying to break news cycles
09:14 schestowitz; he's trying to break news cycles
09:14 schestowitz; about his crimes
09:14 schestowitz; about his crimes
09:14 matey; it started when they killed aaron
09:14 matey; it started when they killed aaron
09:14 matey; now this
09:14 matey; now this
09:14 matey; fuck mit
09:14 matey; fuck mit
09:14 matey; they should turn it into a mail-order university
09:14 matey; they should turn it into a mail-order university
09:14 matey; i hope it does
09:14 matey; i hope it does
09:14 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking of mit hours ago
09:14 schestowitz-TR; I was thinking of mit hours ago
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and how they never received justice
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and how they never received justice
09:15 matey; but instead of installing a new leader who wasnt a tyrant
09:15 matey; but instead of installing a new leader who wasnt a tyrant
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and how, like bbc, each time they're mentioned we should bring up the gates scnadals
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and how, like bbc, each time they're mentioned we should bring up the gates scnadals
09:15 matey; which of course, people paint rms as a tyrant
09:15 matey; which of course, people paint rms as a tyrant
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and remind people what they are
09:15 schestowitz-TR; and remind people what they are
09:15 schestowitz-TR; mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email
09:15 schestowitz-TR; mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email
09:15 matey; all the war industry did was create a power vacuum
09:15 matey; all the war industry did was create a power vacuum
09:15 schestowitz-TR; that was worded not too well
09:15 schestowitz-TR; that was worded not too well
09:16 schestowitz-TR; matey: look at it likle thios
09:16 schestowitz-TR; matey: look at it likle thios
09:16 matey; 08:15 <schestowitz-TR> mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email 08:14 <matey> now this <- this is what i was referring to
09:16 matey; 08:15 <schestowitz-TR> mit threw rms under the bus for writing a public email 08:14 <matey> now this <- this is what i was referring to
09:16 schestowitz-TR; the positive slant:
09:16 schestowitz-TR; the positive slant:
09:16 schestowitz-TR; then they fight you
09:16 schestowitz-TR; then they fight you
09:16 matey; after they killed aaron
09:16 matey; after they killed aaron
09:16 schestowitz-TR; they ARE fighting
09:16 schestowitz-TR; they ARE fighting
09:16 matey; they worked to kill free software
09:16 matey; they worked to kill free software
09:16 schestowitz-TR; IBM is KILLING itself in the fighting
09:16 schestowitz-TR; IBM is KILLING itself in the fighting
09:16 schestowitz-TR; like Putin entering Ukraine
09:16 schestowitz-TR; like Putin entering Ukraine
09:16 matey; i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much)
09:16 matey; i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much)
09:16 schestowitz-TR; and then Ukraine is being armed by the West
09:16 schestowitz-TR; and then Ukraine is being armed by the West
09:16 matey; i REALLY suck at math. im way better at typing.
09:16 matey; i REALLY suck at math. im way better at typing.
09:16 schestowitz-TR; a proxy war to lower Russian military might
09:16 schestowitz-TR; a proxy war to lower Russian military might
09:16 matey; its ok, im just not an engineer.
09:16 matey; its ok, im just not an engineer.
09:16 schestowitz-TR; IBM will kill itself
09:16 schestowitz-TR; IBM will kill itself
09:17 matey; thats not fast enough
09:17 matey; thats not fast enough
09:17 schestowitz-TR; [09:16] <matey> i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much)
09:17 schestowitz-TR; [09:16] <matey> i wanted to go to mit when i was younger (and didnt know i would suck at math so much)
09:17 schestowitz-TR; my grandpa also
09:17 schestowitz-TR; my grandpa also
09:17 schestowitz-TR; but I decided never go study in the US
09:17 schestowitz-TR; but I decided never go study in the US
09:17 schestowitz-TR; that was JUST AFTER the dotcom bust
09:17 schestowitz-TR; that was JUST AFTER the dotcom bust
09:17 schestowitz-TR; post 2000
09:17 schestowitz-TR; post 2000
09:17 schestowitz-TR; I was 18
09:17 schestowitz-TR; I was 18
09:17 matey; one of the professors at mit worked on the manhattan project
09:17 matey; one of the professors at mit worked on the manhattan project
09:17 matey; i met him
09:17 matey; i met him
09:17 matey; when i was a kid
09:17 matey; when i was a kid
09:17 matey; at his office, at mit
09:17 matey; at his office, at mit
09:17 matey; it was an interesting place then
09:17 matey; it was an interesting place then
09:18 matey; its becoming a corporate dick-sucking contest like most universities these days
09:18 matey; its becoming a corporate dick-sucking contest like most universities these days
09:18 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure you two had a blast
09:18 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure you two had a blast
09:18 matey; woof
09:18 matey; woof
09:18 schestowitz-TR; error: missing argument
09:18 schestowitz-TR; error: missing argument
09:19 matey; at any rate, i dont love mit anymore
09:19 matey; at any rate, i dont love mit anymore
09:19 matey; but i did when i was younger
09:19 matey; but i did when i was younger
09:19 schestowitz-TR; dare I say it's not just MIT?
09:19 schestowitz-TR; dare I say it's not just MIT?
09:19 schestowitz-TR; and more of an image issue of a nation?
09:19 schestowitz-TR; and more of an image issue of a nation?
09:19 schestowitz-TR; after bush ii?
09:19 schestowitz-TR; after bush ii?
09:19 matey; as for not qualifying, im not sour about that. theres a lot of LESS prestigious universities i wouldnt be a good engineer at too
09:19 matey; as for not qualifying, im not sour about that. theres a lot of LESS prestigious universities i wouldnt be a good engineer at too
09:19 matey; i dont hate them
09:19 matey; i dont hate them
09:20 schestowitz-TR; USA had a bit of a better image worldwide before that
09:20 schestowitz-TR; USA had a bit of a better image worldwide before that
09:20 matey; <schestowitz-TR> dare I say it's not just MIT? <- i already did
09:20 matey; <schestowitz-TR> dare I say it's not just MIT? <- i already did
09:20 schestowitz-TR; arrogance notwithstanding
09:20 schestowitz-TR; arrogance notwithstanding
09:20 matey; usa only gets credit for the bad things
09:20 matey; usa only gets credit for the bad things
09:20 matey; to be fair, theres a fuckload of that.
09:20 matey; to be fair, theres a fuckload of that.
09:20 schestowitz-TR; many nationalists think the world envies them
09:20 schestowitz-TR; many nationalists think the world envies them
09:20 schestowitz-TR; while they live in tent cities and cars
09:20 schestowitz-TR; while they live in tent cities and cars
09:21 matey; but it becomes a scapegoat for everything the rest of the world does
09:21 matey; but it becomes a scapegoat for everything the rest of the world does
09:21 schestowitz-TR; "yeah... they just enjoy our walmart and stuff"
09:21 schestowitz-TR; "yeah... they just enjoy our walmart and stuff"
09:21 matey; now, when your m.o. is to have your hands in everything
09:21 matey; now, when your m.o. is to have your hands in everything
09:21 matey; and the result is similar...
09:21 matey; and the result is similar...
09:21 schestowitz-TR; "pagan losers" -Fox and Friends
09:21 schestowitz-TR; "pagan losers" -Fox and Friends
09:21 matey; its very difficult to use the word "scapegoat" without irony
09:21 matey; its very difficult to use the word "scapegoat" without irony
09:21 matey; but its like
09:21 matey; but its like
09:21 schestowitz-TR; I did not apply for MIT
09:21 schestowitz-TR; I did not apply for MIT
09:21 matey; imagine the deadliest serial killer getting framed for a murder, right?
09:21 matey; imagine the deadliest serial killer getting framed for a murder, right?
09:21 schestowitz-TR; but at 17 I did apply for another Boston-based university
09:21 schestowitz-TR; but at 17 I did apply for another Boston-based university
09:22 schestowitz-TR; they kept chasing me
09:22 schestowitz-TR; they kept chasing me
09:22 schestowitz-TR; then 2000 "happened"
09:22 schestowitz-TR; then 2000 "happened"
09:22 matey; his innocence isnt the point-- the point is that someone else is going free because the wrong person is getting the blame
09:22 matey; his innocence isnt the point-- the point is that someone else is going free because the wrong person is getting the blame
09:22 schestowitz-TR; tech has not improved since then BTW
09:22 schestowitz-TR; tech has not improved since then BTW
09:22 schestowitz-TR; look what we had in 2000
09:22 schestowitz-TR; look what we had in 2000
09:22 matey; usa isnt guilty of all the crimes in the world
09:22 matey; usa isnt guilty of all the crimes in the world
09:22 schestowitz-TR; and what we have now
09:22 schestowitz-TR; and what we have now
09:22 matey; just some of the bigger ones (and many of the smaller ones)
09:22 matey; just some of the bigger ones (and many of the smaller ones)
09:22 schestowitz-TR; in 2000 we already had CounterStrike and stuff
09:22 schestowitz-TR; in 2000 we already had CounterStrike and stuff
09:22 matey; theres no reason everyone else should be off the hook (for collaborating, if nothing else)
09:22 matey; theres no reason everyone else should be off the hook (for collaborating, if nothing else)
09:23 schestowitz-TR; now we just render more polygons and waste more power
09:23 schestowitz-TR; now we just render more polygons and waste more power
09:23 matey; i mean britain went to iraq with usa under false pretenses
09:23 matey; i mean britain went to iraq with usa under false pretenses
09:23 matey; a lot of countries did
09:23 matey; a lot of countries did
09:23 schestowitz-TR; Spain
09:23 schestowitz-TR; Spain
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09:23 matey; those civlians were murdered for industry
09:23 matey; those civlians were murdered for industry
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09:23 matey; for money, no other reason
09:23 matey; for money, no other reason
09:24 schestowitz-TR; also troops
09:24 schestowitz-TR; also troops
09:24 schestowitz-TR; poverty helps draft people
09:24 schestowitz-TR; poverty helps draft people
09:24 schestowitz-TR; not forcibly per se
09:24 schestowitz-TR; not forcibly per se
09:24 schestowitz-TR; just make them broke enough
09:24 schestowitz-TR; just make them broke enough
09:24 matey; yeah im against troops being deployed for bullshit, but its nothing new
09:24 matey; yeah im against troops being deployed for bullshit, but its nothing new
09:24 schestowitz-TR; war can be "necessary"
09:24 schestowitz-TR; war can be "necessary"
09:24 schestowitz-TR; counter-invasion for instance
09:24 schestowitz-TR; counter-invasion for instance
09:24 matey; it was nearly a century ago that butler exposed the corporate plot against the usa
09:24 matey; it was nearly a century ago that butler exposed the corporate plot against the usa
09:24 schestowitz-TR; but that's not what we see in recent decades
09:24 schestowitz-TR; but that's not what we see in recent decades
09:25 matey; hes the one who said "the flag follows the money and the troops follow the flag"
09:25 matey; hes the one who said "the flag follows the money and the troops follow the flag"
09:25 schestowitz-TR; yeah
09:25 schestowitz-TR; yeah
09:25 schestowitz-TR; it was a nice sentence
09:25 schestowitz-TR; it was a nice sentence
09:25 matey; and he was a general, and he won the congressional medal of honor
09:25 matey; and he was a general, and he won the congressional medal of honor
09:25 matey; theres no congressional medal of honour that i know of
09:25 matey; theres no congressional medal of honour that i know of
09:26 matey; but it does look a bit like one of the orders the queen gives out
09:26 matey; but it does look a bit like one of the orders the queen gives out
09:26 schestowitz-TR; they usually spill the beans only late
09:26 schestowitz-TR; they usually spill the beans only late
09:26 matey; but no sash, so they dangle it from a ribbon
09:26 matey; but no sash, so they dangle it from a ribbon
09:26 schestowitz-TR; when little is left to be lost
09:26 schestowitz-TR; when little is left to be lost
09:26 schestowitz-TR; unloading the guilt
09:26 schestowitz-TR; unloading the guilt
09:26 schestowitz-TR; I am sceptical
09:26 schestowitz-TR; I am sceptical
09:26 schestowitz-TR; it's like "changing from within"
09:26 schestowitz-TR; it's like "changing from within"
09:26 schestowitz-TR; work FOR the system for 40 years
09:26 schestowitz-TR; work FOR the system for 40 years
09:26 matey; i dunno, butler became aware of the plot because they trusted him to be a good old boy
09:26 matey; i dunno, butler became aware of the plot because they trusted him to be a good old boy
09:27 schestowitz-TR; then, afterwards, spent a month badmouthing it
09:27 schestowitz-TR; then, afterwards, spent a month badmouthing it
09:27 matey; and he turned on them
09:27 matey; and he turned on them
09:27 schestowitz-TR; BTW, if I decided to leave my job this week, I'll have many stories to tell
09:27 schestowitz-TR; BTW, if I decided to leave my job this week, I'll have many stories to tell
09:27 matey; i would say hes probably a geniune exception
09:27 matey; i would say hes probably a geniune exception
09:27 schestowitz-TR; Many NSA whistleblowers are old people
09:27 schestowitz-TR; Many NSA whistleblowers are old people
09:27 schestowitz-TR; like Binney
09:27 schestowitz-TR; like Binney
09:27 schestowitz-TR; they say, what's gonna happen?
09:27 schestowitz-TR; they say, what's gonna happen?
09:27 matey; i think theres another layer
09:27 matey; i think theres another layer
09:27 schestowitz-TR; on many levels
09:27 schestowitz-TR; on many levels
09:28 matey; im not saying it ISNT like you say
09:28 matey; im not saying it ISNT like you say
09:28 schestowitz-TR; inc. them being close to the end of life, not just career
09:28 schestowitz-TR; inc. them being close to the end of life, not just career
09:28 matey; but i think theres another part to it, sometimes
09:28 matey; but i think theres another part to it, sometimes
09:28 matey; institutions change
09:28 matey; institutions change
09:28 matey; people become increasingly aware of them getting worse
09:28 matey; people become increasingly aware of them getting worse
09:28 matey; like the stalin regime-- it was always bad
09:28 matey; like the stalin regime-- it was always bad
09:28 matey; but it became worse, to the point where he was going to kill his closest people
09:28 matey; but it became worse, to the point where he was going to kill his closest people
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09:28 TR Bot; NO TITLE
09:28 TR Bot; NO TITLE
09:28 matey; so they (probably) murdered him
09:28 matey; so they (probably) murdered him
09:29 matey; in russia you can never trust "natural causes"
09:29 matey; in russia you can never trust "natural causes"
09:29 matey; the timing was a hell of a coincidence
09:29 matey; the timing was a hell of a coincidence
09:29 TR News; Daniel Hale: hero, burned by oligarch Omidyar and his pack of wolves https://couragefound.org/2022/05/sign-petitions-calling-for-daniel-hales-freedom/ | Source: Courage Found
09:29 TR News; Daniel Hale: hero, burned by oligarch Omidyar and his pack of wolves https://couragefound.org/2022/05/sign-petitions-calling-for-daniel-hales-freedom/ | Source: Courage Found
09:29 TR Bot; Sign petitions calling for Daniel Hales freedom | Courage Foundation
09:29 TR Bot; Sign petitions calling for Daniel Hales freedom | Courage Foundation
09:29 schestowitz-TR; apropos ^
09:29 schestowitz-TR; apropos ^
09:29 matey; fingers crossed!
09:29 matey; fingers crossed!
09:29 schestowitz-TR; Hale is young
09:29 schestowitz-TR; Hale is young
09:29 matey; but the thing is, bad institutions get worse
09:29 matey; but the thing is, bad institutions get worse
09:29 matey; like the nsa
09:29 matey; like the nsa
09:29 schestowitz-TR; I made 3 friends online who are drone whistleblower
09:29 schestowitz-TR; I made 3 friends online who are drone whistleblower
09:30 schestowitz-TR; inc. Bryant, who killed over 1600 people with dronems
09:30 schestowitz-TR; inc. Bryant, who killed over 1600 people with dronems
09:30 schestowitz-TR; Bryant had to sort of vanish due to threats to his family
09:30 schestowitz-TR; Bryant had to sort of vanish due to threats to his family
09:30 schestowitz-TR; after he had ousted himself
09:30 schestowitz-TR; after he had ousted himself
09:30 matey; the thing is, many whistleblowers started out as people who believed in the good of the system
09:30 matey; the thing is, many whistleblowers started out as people who believed in the good of the system
09:30 matey; then once they realised it wasnt good
09:30 matey; then once they realised it wasnt good
09:30 schestowitz-TR; became a hero for a bit, then had to go undercover like Rushdie
09:30 schestowitz-TR; became a hero for a bit, then had to go undercover like Rushdie
09:30 matey; they take some time to doubt themselves
09:30 matey; they take some time to doubt themselves
09:30 matey; to second guess
09:30 matey; to second guess
09:30 schestowitz-TR; Bryant was young also
09:30 schestowitz-TR; Bryant was young also
09:30 schestowitz-TR; maybe about my age
09:30 schestowitz-TR; maybe about my age
09:31 matey; but eventually they turn against the corruption theyve become aware of
09:31 matey; but eventually they turn against the corruption theyve become aware of
09:31 matey; not all of them were aware of it all along
09:31 matey; not all of them were aware of it all along
09:31 matey; they believed they were working for good people
09:31 matey; they believed they were working for good people
09:31 matey; binney in particular, was never against surveillance, within constitutional limits
09:31 matey; binney in particular, was never against surveillance, within constitutional limits
09:31 TR News; "After 10 years of legal battles following the closure of Megaupload, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk have reached a deal with the authorities" https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-sign-deal-to-avoid-extradition-dotcom-vows-to-fight-on-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:31 TR News; "After 10 years of legal battles following the closure of Megaupload, Mathias Ortmann and Bram van der Kolk have reached a deal with the authorities" https://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-pair-sign-deal-to-avoid-extradition-dotcom-vows-to-fight-on-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:31 TR Bot; Pair Sign Deal to Avoid Extradition, Dotcom Vows to Fight On * TorrentFreak
09:31 TR Bot; Pair Sign Deal to Avoid Extradition, Dotcom Vows to Fight On * TorrentFreak
09:32 matey; you know why they decided to go with mass surveillance, which can be (arguably, even by binney) LESS effective?
09:32 matey; you know why they decided to go with mass surveillance, which can be (arguably, even by binney) LESS effective?
09:32 matey; it COSTS MORE
09:32 matey; it COSTS MORE
09:32 TR News; "A man who was wrongfully accused of pirating several adult films has finally recouped $108k in fees and costs" https://torrentfreak.com/wrongfully-accused-pirate-recoups-108k-from-copyright-troll-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:32 TR News; "A man who was wrongfully accused of pirating several adult films has finally recouped $108k in fees and costs" https://torrentfreak.com/wrongfully-accused-pirate-recoups-108k-from-copyright-troll-220510/ | Source: Torrent Freak
09:32 TR Bot; Accused Pirate Recoups $108k From 'Copyright Troll' * TorrentFreak
09:32 TR Bot; Accused Pirate Recoups $108k From 'Copyright Troll' * TorrentFreak
09:32 matey; and that means people will go to greater lengths to create a market for it as a solution
09:32 matey; and that means people will go to greater lengths to create a market for it as a solution
09:32 TR News; Pulitzer Prizes https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/10/pulitzer_prize_winning_podcast_suave_futuro | Source: Democracy Now
09:32 TR News; Pulitzer Prizes https://www.democracynow.org/2022/5/10/pulitzer_prize_winning_podcast_suave_futuro | Source: Democracy Now
09:32 TR Bot; Maria Hinojosa, Futuro Media & PRX Win Pulitzer for Suave Podcast on Prisoners Journey to Freedom | Democracy Now!
09:32 TR Bot; Maria Hinojosa, Futuro Media & PRX Win Pulitzer for Suave Podcast on Prisoners Journey to Freedom | Democracy Now!
09:32 matey; mass surveillance is like when youre trying to find a needle in a haystack
09:32 matey; mass surveillance is like when youre trying to find a needle in a haystack
09:33 matey; so you decided to take all the hay in the world, and add that to the hay you were already looking in
09:33 matey; so you decided to take all the hay in the world, and add that to the hay you were already looking in
09:33 matey; its not efficient. its PROFITABLE
09:33 matey; its not efficient. its PROFITABLE
09:33 matey; its also completely illegal
09:33 matey; its also completely illegal
09:33 matey; the nsa didnt care about that
09:33 matey; the nsa didnt care about that
09:33 schestowitz-TR; yes
09:33 schestowitz-TR; yes
09:33 matey; i mean the mission of the nsa wasnt all wrong
09:33 matey; i mean the mission of the nsa wasnt all wrong
09:33 schestowitz-TR; ThomasDrake1 called it fraud and waste
09:33 schestowitz-TR; ThomasDrake1 called it fraud and waste
09:33 schestowitz-TR; misuse of taxpayers money
09:33 schestowitz-TR; misuse of taxpayers money
09:34 schestowitz-TR; and fraudulent contracts
09:34 schestowitz-TR; and fraudulent contracts
09:34 matey; you look at communications for signals that indicate serious threats to the public
09:34 matey; you look at communications for signals that indicate serious threats to the public
09:34 schestowitz-TR; Some surveillance IS needed
09:34 schestowitz-TR; Some surveillance IS needed
09:34 matey; theyve been doing it for decades
09:34 matey; theyve been doing it for decades
09:34 schestowitz-TR; like OSS pre CIA/NSA
09:34 schestowitz-TR; like OSS pre CIA/NSA
09:34 matey; yes, some surveillance makes sense
09:34 matey; yes, some surveillance makes sense
09:34 schestowitz-TR; you might end up in a war
09:34 schestowitz-TR; you might end up in a war
09:34 schestowitz-TR; but it became an industry
09:34 schestowitz-TR; but it became an industry
09:34 schestowitz-TR; every person does some spying
09:34 schestowitz-TR; every person does some spying
09:34 matey; and you know what indsustry does
09:34 matey; and you know what indsustry does
09:34 schestowitz-TR; like checking what the neighbours do
09:34 schestowitz-TR; like checking what the neighbours do
09:34 matey; it turns everything up to 11 for profit
09:34 matey; it turns everything up to 11 for profit
09:34 schestowitz-TR; in case they burn the house down
09:34 schestowitz-TR; in case they burn the house down
09:35 matey; industry and stalin have a lot in common
09:35 matey; industry and stalin have a lot in common
09:35 schestowitz-TR; [tell me all about it meme]
09:35 schestowitz-TR; [tell me all about it meme]
09:35 matey; the more power they get
09:35 matey; the more power they get
09:35 matey; and they get a LOT
09:35 matey; and they get a LOT
09:35 matey; the more paranoid they are about protecting it
09:35 matey; the more paranoid they are about protecting it
09:35 matey; and the more paranoid they get
09:35 matey; and the more paranoid they get
09:36 matey; the more dangerous they become to the entire world
09:36 matey; the more dangerous they become to the entire world
09:36 matey; or at least everything they touch
09:36 matey; or at least everything they touch
09:36 matey; having so much power should put you at ease
09:36 matey; having so much power should put you at ease
09:36 matey; but thats not what it does
09:36 matey; but thats not what it does
09:36 TR News; MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog
09:36 TR News; MusKSA (oil money buying Twitter) spreads climate disinfo or turns a blind eye https://www.desmog.com/2022/05/10/twitters-new-ad-policy-ignores-a-subtler-form-of-climate-disinformation/ | Source: DeSmog
09:36 matey; its like if you had a trillion dollars
09:36 matey; its like if you had a trillion dollars
09:36 TR Bot; New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog
09:36 TR Bot; New Ad Policy Ignores a Subtler Form of Climate Disinformation - DeSmog
09:37 matey; youd care more about protecting it (and yourself) than it would ever make your life easier
09:37 matey; youd care more about protecting it (and yourself) than it would ever make your life easier
09:37 matey; it only takes $10,000 to damage a project like curl forever
09:37 matey; it only takes $10,000 to damage a project like curl forever
09:37 matey; im not saying thats what happened
09:37 matey; im not saying thats what happened
09:37 Techrights-sec; yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation
09:37 Techrights-sec; yep that's what it'll be used for -- spreading strife and disinformation
09:37 Techrights-sec; at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before
09:37 Techrights-sec; at a scale that will vastly overshadow what we saw before
09:37 matey; but money like that is a liability to small enough project
09:37 matey; but money like that is a liability to small enough project
09:38 schestowitz-TR; brb
09:38 schestowitz-TR; brb
09:39 TR News; EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF
09:39 TR News; EFF: We take money from billionaires and from Gulag. Can you top up their 'donations'? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/token-thanks-brighter-future | Source: EFF
09:39 TR Bot; A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:39 TR Bot; A Token of Thanks for a Brighter Future | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:39 TR News; "Mickens speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OBrien about some of the problems inherent in educating computer scientists" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-philosopher-king | Source: EFF
09:39 TR News; "Mickens speaks with EFF's Cindy Cohn and Danny OBrien about some of the problems inherent in educating computer scientists" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/podcast-episode-philosopher-king | Source: EFF
09:39 TR Bot; Podcast Episode: The Philosopher King | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:39 TR Bot; Podcast Episode: The Philosopher King | Electronic Frontier Foundation
09:40 TR News; Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut
09:40 TR News; Trump and MusKSA (yes, Saudis funded the sale) want to cause more strife https://truthout.org/articles/elon-musk-says-hell-let-trump-back-on-twitter-calling-ban-foolish/ | Source: TruthOut
09:40 TR Bot; Elon Musk Says Hell Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban Foolish
09:40 TR Bot; Elon Musk Says Hell Let Trump Back on Twitter, Calling Ban Foolish
09:40 matey; the way to kill a small simple project is to make it large enough for a corporation to steer it
09:40 matey; the way to kill a small simple project is to make it large enough for a corporation to steer it
09:40 matey; then its fucked
09:40 matey; then its fucked
09:41 TR News; Twitter itself is election meddling while foreign-owned
09:41 TR News; Twitter itself is election meddling while foreign-owned
09:42 matey; but as long as anyone and his mother can fork it
09:42 matey; but as long as anyone and his mother can fork it
09:42 matey; the goal is to undo that level of simplicity
09:42 matey; the goal is to undo that level of simplicity
09:43 matey; wget is developed partly on github
09:43 matey; wget is developed partly on github
09:43 matey; i can write a replacement in python, in one or two lines, but a lot of websites wont look favourably on it
09:43 matey; i can write a replacement in python, in one or two lines, but a lot of websites wont look favourably on it
09:43 matey; wget is more reliable
09:43 matey; wget is more reliable
09:44 matey; and yet the maintainers see fit to leverage microsofts efforts at monopoly to develop it
09:44 matey; and yet the maintainers see fit to leverage microsofts efforts at monopoly to develop it
09:45 matey; which really sends a mixed messge about what gnu stands for (except that it doesnt stand for anything anymore)
09:45 matey; which really sends a mixed messge about what gnu stands for (except that it doesnt stand for anything anymore)
09:45 matey; gnu is important because of what it DID stand for
09:45 matey; gnu is important because of what it DID stand for
09:45 matey; and it did more than any other project, ever.
09:45 matey; and it did more than any other project, ever.
09:45 matey; there was never a project that stood for more, and there may not be for some time
09:45 matey; there was never a project that stood for more, and there may not be for some time
09:45 matey; but that doesnt mean gnu isnt turning its back on its mission
09:45 matey; but that doesnt mean gnu isnt turning its back on its mission
09:46 TR News; Biden and the patents, doing nothing to dismantle the robbery https://truthout.org/articles/nobel-laureates-and-former-world-leaders-push-biden-to-fund-global-covid-fight/ | Source: TruthOut
09:46 TR News; Biden and the patents, doing nothing to dismantle the robbery https://truthout.org/articles/nobel-laureates-and-former-world-leaders-push-biden-to-fund-global-covid-fight/ | Source: TruthOut
09:46 TR Bot; Nobel Laureates and Former World Leaders Push Biden to Fund Global COVID Fight
09:46 TR Bot; Nobel Laureates and Former World Leaders Push Biden to Fund Global COVID Fight
09:46 matey; also the divide between gnu and fsf is completely artificial
09:46 matey; also the divide between gnu and fsf is completely artificial
09:47 matey; the fsf has the copyright, the trademark, the funding, the infrastructure, AND it holds the leader hostage
09:47 matey; the fsf has the copyright, the trademark, the funding, the infrastructure, AND it holds the leader hostage
09:48 matey; there was this effort to pretend that gnu is separate from the fsf
09:48 matey; there was this effort to pretend that gnu is separate from the fsf
09:48 matey; how is it separate? their fates are entirely linked
09:48 matey; how is it separate? their fates are entirely linked
09:49 matey; by all of the above and more
09:49 matey; by all of the above and more
09:49 matey; if the fsf falls, gnu falls
09:49 matey; if the fsf falls, gnu falls
09:49 matey; and without gnu, the fsf is a joke
09:49 matey; and without gnu, the fsf is a joke
09:49 matey; how can the fsf protect YOUR freedom when they cant even protect their own?
09:49 matey; how can the fsf protect YOUR freedom when they cant even protect their own?
09:50 mjg59_; If GNU made a clear argument that they were able and wanted to manage the copyright for GNU code, there's no political way the FSF could say no
09:50 mjg59_; If GNU made a clear argument that they were able and wanted to manage the copyright for GNU code, there's no political way the FSF could say no
09:50 mjg59_; And I'd be in favour of that if that's what GNU projects wanted
09:50 mjg59_; And I'd be in favour of that if that's what GNU projects wanted
09:50 matey; as far as i know, gnu is just a brand
09:50 matey; as far as i know, gnu is just a brand
09:50 matey; and a brand cant hold copyright
09:50 matey; and a brand cant hold copyright
09:51 mjg59_; There's no meaningful legal entity, but that's fixable
09:51 mjg59_; There's no meaningful legal entity, but that's fixable
09:51 matey; or breakable
09:51 matey; or breakable
09:51 matey; id say the latter is more likely
09:51 matey; id say the latter is more likely
09:51 mjg59_; There's obviously risks associated with taking over responsibilities from a relatively well-funded org
09:51 mjg59_; There's obviously risks associated with taking over responsibilities from a relatively well-funded org
09:51 mjg59_; But GNU *could* exist independently, if GNU so chose
09:51 mjg59_; But GNU *could* exist independently, if GNU so chose
09:52 matey; this is one of those things where
09:52 matey; this is one of those things where
09:52 matey; on the surface theres absolutely zero wrong with your argument
09:52 matey; on the surface theres absolutely zero wrong with your argument
09:52 mjg59_; If there's no existing mechanism for transfer of copyrights in the event of the FSF failing (and that's something I really should have investigated while I was there but didn't, that's on me), that should be fixed
09:52 mjg59_; If there's no existing mechanism for transfer of copyrights in the event of the FSF failing (and that's something I really should have investigated while I was there but didn't, that's on me), that should be fixed
09:53 matey; i think the reality is that if gnu became independent, it would die an even faster, messier death
09:53 matey; i think the reality is that if gnu became independent, it would die an even faster, messier death
09:53 matey; not because the fsf is protecting it
09:53 matey; not because the fsf is protecting it
09:53 matey; anymore than calculus acts as a barrier between sugary food and a tooth
09:53 matey; anymore than calculus acts as a barrier between sugary food and a tooth
09:54 matey; but is itself a product of decay
09:54 matey; but is itself a product of decay
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09:54 matey; with the fsf holding the umbrella, it will take longer for gnu to be sold off piece by piece
09:54 matey; with the fsf holding the umbrella, it will take longer for gnu to be sold off piece by piece
09:55 matey; without the fsf that will happen even faster
09:55 matey; without the fsf that will happen even faster
09:55 mjg59_; Mm yeah the standard assignment form doesn't discuss this case
09:55 mjg59_; Mm yeah the standard assignment form doesn't discuss this case
09:55 mjg59_; That might be worth digging into
09:55 mjg59_; That might be worth digging into
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09:55 matey; but with the fsf holding the umbrella, gnu will die anyway
09:55 matey; but with the fsf holding the umbrella, gnu will die anyway
09:55 TR News; "There is no such thing as good or bad fortune for the individual; we live in common." gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/05/10/seneca-letter-48.txt
09:55 TR News; "There is no such thing as good or bad fortune for the individual; we live in common." gopher://stevenf.com:70/0/journal/2022/05/10/seneca-letter-48.txt
09:55 matey; as the fate of the fsf is surely the same as the fate of the eff
09:55 matey; as the fate of the fsf is surely the same as the fate of the eff
09:56 mjg59_; Going to say, being here helped us almost win the EFF tech trivia contest because I remembered that gopher was on port 70
09:56 mjg59_; Going to say, being here helped us almost win the EFF tech trivia contest because I remembered that gopher was on port 70
09:56 matey; i used to know that, i ran a gopher server for a while
09:56 matey; i used to know that, i ran a gopher server for a while
09:56 matey; but its been many years
09:56 matey; but its been many years
09:57 matey; and the time that information was useful to me was brief
09:57 matey; and the time that information was useful to me was brief
09:58 TR News; "I think about Nietzsche almost every day. the purpose of capitalism is not even to serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful: even they still serve capital, which has its own irrational logic." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
09:58 TR News; "I think about Nietzsche almost every day. the purpose of capitalism is not even to serve the interests of the wealthy and powerful: even they still serve capital, which has its own irrational logic." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
09:58 matey; the fate of gnu will be an unhappy one
09:58 matey; the fate of gnu will be an unhappy one
09:58 matey; im in favour of salvage and forking
09:58 matey; im in favour of salvage and forking
09:58 matey; the problem is, few will bother
09:58 matey; the problem is, few will bother
09:59 matey; and for it to really be gnu, it takes more than numbers
09:59 matey; and for it to really be gnu, it takes more than numbers
09:59 matey; theres a quality that is more important than the quantity
09:59 matey; theres a quality that is more important than the quantity
09:59 matey; obviously i dont mean code quality
09:59 matey; obviously i dont mean code quality
09:59 TR News; Tech - Raspad - Early Speedbumps gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20220501-Tech-Raspad-Speedbumps.gmi "The bug in the LXDE (?) implemented for Raspberry Pi OS continues to thwart basic touchscreen usage."
09:59 TR News; Tech - Raspad - Early Speedbumps gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/shufei/phlog/20220501-Tech-Raspad-Speedbumps.gmi "The bug in the LXDE (?) implemented for Raspberry Pi OS continues to thwart basic touchscreen usage."
09:59 matey; though its not the worst either
09:59 matey; though its not the worst either
10:00 matey; the numbers that matter are the people who are interested in killing it outweigh the ones interested in salvaging
10:00 matey; the numbers that matter are the people who are interested in killing it outweigh the ones interested in salvaging
10:00 matey; there are countless people eager to destroy it
10:00 matey; there are countless people eager to destroy it
10:00 matey; there are few (by my count rougly zero) interested in saving it
10:00 matey; there are few (by my count rougly zero) interested in saving it
10:00 matey; thats the math that matters
10:00 matey; thats the math that matters
10:05 TR News; "a computers memory map looks pretty smooth and very much byte-addressable at first glance" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ | Source: Hackaday
↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
10:05 TR News; "a computers memory map looks pretty smooth and very much byte-addressable at first glance" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/ | Source: Hackaday
↺ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/data-alignment-across-architectures-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/
10:05 TR Bot; Alignment Across Architectures: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly | Hackaday
10:05 TR Bot; Alignment Across Architectures: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly | Hackaday
10:06 TR News; "The WIPO SCCR is a major normative forum, shaping laws and policies that influence access to and sharing of knowledge" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/10/creative-commons-condemns-rejection-of-wikimedia-chapters-as-observers-at-wipo-sccr/ | Source: Creative Commons http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO
10:06 TR News; "The WIPO SCCR is a major normative forum, shaping laws and policies that influence access to and sharing of knowledge" https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/10/creative-commons-condemns-rejection-of-wikimedia-chapters-as-observers-at-wipo-sccr/ | Source: Creative Commons http://techrights.org/wiki/WIPO
10:06 TR Bot; Creative Commons condemns rejection of Wikimedia chapters as observers at WIPO SCCR - Creative Commons
10:06 TR Bot; Creative Commons condemns rejection of Wikimedia chapters as observers at WIPO SCCR - Creative Commons
10:06 TR Bot; WIPO - Techrights
10:06 TR Bot; WIPO - Techrights
10:07 matey; if gnu is basically stallmans tardis
10:07 matey; if gnu is basically stallmans tardis
10:07 schestowitz-TR; correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing
10:07 schestowitz-TR; correct me if I missed something, but FSF said nothing
10:07 schestowitz-TR; in IRC
10:07 schestowitz-TR; in IRC
10:07 schestowitz-TR; in twitter
10:07 schestowitz-TR; in twitter
10:07 schestowitz-TR; in fsf.org
10:07 schestowitz-TR; in fsf.org
10:08 schestowitz-TR; about the Twitetr sale
10:08 schestowitz-TR; about the Twitetr sale
10:08 schestowitz-TR; took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side
10:08 schestowitz-TR; took them a year to point our Twitter REQUIRES proprietary software in the client side
10:08 schestowitz-TR; and they are STILL on there
10:08 schestowitz-TR; and they are STILL on there
10:08 matey; it will die with him, and if he regenerates, gnu will regenerate with him
10:08 matey; it will die with him, and if he regenerates, gnu will regenerate with him
10:08 matey; i realise how glib this sounds
10:08 matey; i realise how glib this sounds
10:09 matey; if we were take temporary refuge in a world where there were not obviously quite a few people and organisations trying to destroy stallman and his legacy
10:09 matey; if we were take temporary refuge in a world where there were not obviously quite a few people and organisations trying to destroy stallman and his legacy
10:10 matey; and enter a parallel universe where stallman is still mortal and the fsf still has integrity
10:10 matey; and enter a parallel universe where stallman is still mortal and the fsf still has integrity
10:10 TR News; MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams
10:10 TR News; MusKSA: let's buy Twitter to destabilise USA and distract from how badly people get f-ed by oligarchs and oil giants https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/critics-say-musk-lifting-trump-twitter-ban-would-assist-authoritarian-crusade | Source: Common Dreams
10:10 TR Bot; Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade'
10:10 TR Bot; Critics Say Musk Lifting Trump Twitter Ban Would Assist 'Authoritarian Crusade'
10:10 matey; you would have a similar (but less complicated version of) the problem we have now
10:10 matey; you would have a similar (but less complicated version of) the problem we have now
10:10 matey; of how to make free software LESS mortal than stallman himself
10:10 matey; of how to make free software LESS mortal than stallman himself
10:10 matey; AND
10:10 matey; AND
10:11 matey; how to make it more flawless (but not flawless, because nothing is)
10:11 matey; how to make it more flawless (but not flawless, because nothing is)
10:11 matey; this problem is made far worse by the number of opportunists at the door
10:11 matey; this problem is made far worse by the number of opportunists at the door
10:11 schestowitz-TR; the main issues were solved in 80s and 90s
10:11 schestowitz-TR; the main issues were solved in 80s and 90s
10:11 matey; i doubt it
10:11 matey; i doubt it
10:11 schestowitz-TR; like communications and information exchange
10:11 schestowitz-TR; like communications and information exchange
10:12 schestowitz-TR; we've improved it for tyranny
10:12 schestowitz-TR; we've improved it for tyranny
10:12 matey; oh i see what you mean
10:12 matey; oh i see what you mean
10:12 schestowitz-TR; by changing the topology
10:12 schestowitz-TR; by changing the topology
10:12 schestowitz-TR; all this clown computing BS
10:12 schestowitz-TR; all this clown computing BS
10:12 matey; indeed
10:12 matey; indeed
10:12 schestowitz-TR; I mean..
10:12 schestowitz-TR; I mean..
10:12 schestowitz-TR; we could self-host already
10:12 schestowitz-TR; we could self-host already
10:12 schestowitz-TR; why go BACK to mainframe??
10:12 schestowitz-TR; why go BACK to mainframe??
10:12 schestowitz-TR; because[buzzwords]
10:12 schestowitz-TR; because[buzzwords]
10:12 schestowitz-TR; THE ENTERPRISERS
10:12 schestowitz-TR; THE ENTERPRISERS
10:12 schestowitz-TR; BTW, CTO of LF just died
10:12 schestowitz-TR; BTW, CTO of LF just died
10:12 schestowitz-TR; he was young
10:12 schestowitz-TR; he was young
10:12 matey; /me plays star trek theme
10:12 matey; /me plays star trek theme
10:13 schestowitz-TR; two kids in age (looks like) ~10
10:13 schestowitz-TR; two kids in age (looks like) ~10
10:13 matey; cause of death known?
10:13 matey; cause of death known?
10:13 schestowitz-TR; these CTOs are overhyped, but still sad
10:13 schestowitz-TR; these CTOs are overhyped, but still sad
10:13 schestowitz-TR; the first LF CTO was Ian Murdock
10:13 schestowitz-TR; the first LF CTO was Ian Murdock
10:13 matey; wow
10:13 matey; wow
10:13 schestowitz-TR; then there was Rex from SUSE among many others
10:13 schestowitz-TR; then there was Rex from SUSE among many others
10:13 schestowitz-TR; matey: they spare the details
10:13 schestowitz-TR; matey: they spare the details
10:13 schestowitz-TR; understandable
10:13 schestowitz-TR; understandable
10:13 matey; sure
10:13 matey; sure
10:13 schestowitz-TR; seems very tragic
10:13 schestowitz-TR; seems very tragic
10:13 schestowitz-TR; like he died in the event itself
10:13 schestowitz-TR; like he died in the event itself
10:14 schestowitz-TR; among colleagues
10:14 schestowitz-TR; among colleagues
10:14 matey; im always curious but sometimes they opt for privacy, i dont blame them
10:14 matey; im always curious but sometimes they opt for privacy, i dont blame them
10:14 schestowitz-TR; based on the few words they did use
10:14 schestowitz-TR; based on the few words they did use
10:14 schestowitz-TR; I'd not ask
10:14 schestowitz-TR; I'd not ask
10:14 matey; often we find out a year or more later
10:14 matey; often we find out a year or more later
10:14 *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
10:14 *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
10:14 matey; except with murdock of course
10:14 matey; except with murdock of course
10:14 schestowitz-TR; Murdock hang himself on the stair case with the cord of the vacuum cleaner IIRC
10:14 schestowitz-TR; Murdock hang himself on the stair case with the cord of the vacuum cleaner IIRC
10:14 matey; i mean im not at all satisfied with what we got about that
10:14 matey; i mean im not at all satisfied with what we got about that
10:14 schestowitz-TR; with his shirt off
10:14 schestowitz-TR; with his shirt off
10:14 matey; with two self-inflicted bullet wounds in the back of his head
10:14 matey; with two self-inflicted bullet wounds in the back of his head
10:15 matey; etc etc
10:15 matey; etc etc
10:15 schestowitz-TR; huh?
10:15 schestowitz-TR; huh?
10:15 matey; tropes
10:15 matey; tropes
10:15 schestowitz-TR; unless it's ...
10:15 schestowitz-TR; unless it's ...
10:15 schestowitz-TR; ah, ok
10:15 schestowitz-TR; ah, ok
10:15 schestowitz-TR; tropes
10:15 schestowitz-TR; tropes
10:15 schestowitz-TR; no, hanging
10:15 schestowitz-TR; no, hanging
10:15 schestowitz-TR; he was already suicidal to begin with
10:15 schestowitz-TR; he was already suicidal to begin with
10:15 matey; i mean its impossible to hang someone else to look like a suicide, just ask epst-- oh, you cant
10:15 matey; i mean its impossible to hang someone else to look like a suicide, just ask epst-- oh, you cant
10:15 schestowitz-TR; the police drove him over the edge
10:15 schestowitz-TR; the police drove him over the edge
10:15 matey; why was he suicidal?
10:15 matey; why was he suicidal?
10:16 schestowitz-TR; "well, he's dead"
10:16 schestowitz-TR; "well, he's dead"
10:16 schestowitz-TR; "no more questions"
10:16 schestowitz-TR; "no more questions"
10:16 schestowitz-TR; "let's talk about COVID now"
10:16 schestowitz-TR; "let's talk about COVID now"
10:16 matey; usually death creates question, it doesnt answer them
10:16 matey; usually death creates question, it doesnt answer them
10:16 matey; but it depends who you ask
10:16 matey; but it depends who you ask
10:16 schestowitz-TR; matey: sometimes who knew Debbie told me he had been suicidal before
10:16 schestowitz-TR; matey: sometimes who knew Debbie told me he had been suicidal before
10:17 schestowitz-TR; and that it was prevented or something
10:17 schestowitz-TR; and that it was prevented or something
10:17 schestowitz-TR; I don't have reasons to doubt that
10:17 schestowitz-TR; I don't have reasons to doubt that
10:17 schestowitz-TR; and what he tweeted does contribute to that
10:17 schestowitz-TR; and what he tweeted does contribute to that
10:17 matey; hmm
10:17 matey; hmm
10:19 TR News; "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is operating a digital surveillance dragnet through which the agency" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/study-reveals-sweeping-extent-ices-secret-surveillance-dragnet | Source: Common Dreams
10:19 TR News; "U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is operating a digital surveillance dragnet through which the agency" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/10/study-reveals-sweeping-extent-ices-secret-surveillance-dragnet | Source: Common Dreams
10:19 TR Bot; Study Reveals Sweeping Extent of ICE's Secret Surveillance Dragnet
10:19 TR Bot; Study Reveals Sweeping Extent of ICE's Secret Surveillance Dragnet
10:20 TR News; Seattle Times also takes bribes from Famous Criminal, Bill Gates https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/heres-how-spot-wall-streets-increasingly-infuriating-greenwashing | Source: Common Dreams
10:20 TR News; Seattle Times also takes bribes from Famous Criminal, Bill Gates https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/10/heres-how-spot-wall-streets-increasingly-infuriating-greenwashing | Source: Common Dreams
10:20 TR Bot; Opinion | Here's How to Spot Wall Street's Increasingly Infuriating Greenwashing | Alec Connon
10:20 TR Bot; Opinion | Here's How to Spot Wall Street's Increasingly Infuriating Greenwashing | Alec Connon
10:22 psydruid; > [notice] HP brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu
10:22 psydruid; HP lost a lot of sales last quarter, so it needs to prop up Windoze. Canonical is complicit in this effort to try to salvage a market that isn't worth salvaging.
10:22 psydruid; > [notice] HP brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu
10:22 psydruid; HP lost a lot of sales last quarter, so it needs to prop up Windoze. Canonical is complicit in this effort to try to salvage a market that isn't worth salvaging.
10:22 matey; data surveillance
10:22 matey; data surveillance
10:22 matey; surveillance science
10:22 matey; surveillance science
10:23 matey; youre against science!
10:23 matey; youre against science!
10:23 matey; im against excess surveillance
10:23 matey; im against excess surveillance
10:23 TR News; "Under the blood-soaked stewardship of the Marcos regime, 70,000 warrantless arrests were made, and 4,000 people killed." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/bongbong-politics-rehabilitating-the-marcos-family/ now he's back. Junior uses dad's stolen money to buy power.
10:23 TR News; "Under the blood-soaked stewardship of the Marcos regime, 70,000 warrantless arrests were made, and 4,000 people killed." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/bongbong-politics-rehabilitating-the-marcos-family/ now he's back. Junior uses dad's stolen money to buy power.
10:23 TR Bot; Politics: Rehabilitating the Marcos Family - CounterPunch.org
10:23 TR Bot; Politics: Rehabilitating the Marcos Family - CounterPunch.org
10:23 matey; no, its science!
10:23 matey; no, its science!
10:23 matey; the new heathen
10:23 matey; the new heathen
10:23 schestowitz-TR; haha
10:23 schestowitz-TR; haha
10:23 schestowitz-TR; exactly
10:23 schestowitz-TR; exactly
10:23 matey; ceiling cat knows the terrible things you do
10:23 matey; ceiling cat knows the terrible things you do
10:23 schestowitz-TR; they have another term
10:23 schestowitz-TR; they have another term
10:23 schestowitz-TR; "big data"
10:23 schestowitz-TR; "big data"
10:24 schestowitz-TR; me: what data?
10:24 schestowitz-TR; me: what data?
10:24 matey; big data is watching you
10:24 matey; big data is watching you
10:24 schestowitz-TR; them: no more question
10:24 schestowitz-TR; them: no more question
10:24 schestowitz-TR; [them walking away] me: "but wait, is this EVEN LEGAL??"
10:24 schestowitz-TR; [them walking away] me: "but wait, is this EVEN LEGAL??"
10:24 schestowitz-TR; if I leave my job, I'll have some stories
10:24 schestowitz-TR; if I leave my job, I'll have some stories
10:24 schestowitz-TR; relating to this, too
10:24 schestowitz-TR; relating to this, too
10:25 schestowitz-TR; many firms holding and sharing data they cannot legally share
10:25 schestowitz-TR; many firms holding and sharing data they cannot legally share
10:25 matey; no one ever got fired for choosing google
10:25 matey; no one ever got fired for choosing google
10:25 schestowitz-TR; while using the "ISO" schtick
10:25 schestowitz-TR; while using the "ISO" schtick
10:25 schestowitz-TR; matey: you lose clients over it, though
10:25 schestowitz-TR; matey: you lose clients over it, though
10:25 schestowitz-TR; like gulag voice not working
10:25 schestowitz-TR; like gulag voice not working
10:25 matey; indeed
10:25 matey; indeed
10:25 schestowitz-TR; some idiots here tried to replace asterisk with gulag
10:25 schestowitz-TR; some idiots here tried to replace asterisk with gulag
10:25 schestowitz-TR; it went horribly wrong
10:25 schestowitz-TR; it went horribly wrong
10:25 schestowitz-TR; and they won't admit it
10:25 schestowitz-TR; and they won't admit it
10:25 matey; ive heard-- wait, poor choice of words
10:25 matey; ive heard-- wait, poor choice of words
10:26 matey; no ones heard
10:26 matey; no ones heard
10:26 matey; gulag voice: now with heard immunity
10:26 matey; gulag voice: now with heard immunity
10:26 TR News; Kakistocracy redefined: when the LEAST productive workers get paid the MOST https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/the-outrageous-gap-between-ceo-and-worker-pay/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:26 TR News; Kakistocracy redefined: when the LEAST productive workers get paid the MOST https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/the-outrageous-gap-between-ceo-and-worker-pay/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:26 TR Bot; Outrageous Gap Between CEO and Worker Pay - CounterPunch.org
10:26 TR Bot; Outrageous Gap Between CEO and Worker Pay - CounterPunch.org
10:27 schestowitz-TR; oops
10:27 schestowitz-TR; oops
10:27 schestowitz-TR; did we forgot to apply mute?
10:27 schestowitz-TR; did we forgot to apply mute?
10:27 schestowitz-TR; "lol, real sorry!"
10:27 schestowitz-TR; "lol, real sorry!"
10:27 schestowitz-TR; "we forgot to remove this from debug mode"
10:27 schestowitz-TR; "we forgot to remove this from debug mode"
10:27 schestowitz; https://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chromium-on-debian-is-listening-in-on-your-conversations-484914.shtml
10:27 schestowitz; https://news.softpedia.com/news/google-s-chromium-on-debian-is-listening-in-on-your-conversations-484914.shtml
10:27 TR Bot; Google's Chromium on Debian Is Listening In on Your Conversations
10:27 TR Bot; Google's Chromium on Debian Is Listening In on Your Conversations
10:28 TR News; Incel Inc. x86 ;-) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/is-alito-an-incel/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:28 TR News; Incel Inc. x86 ;-) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/10/is-alito-an-incel/ | Source: Counter Punch
10:28 TR Bot; Alito an Incel? - CounterPunch.org
10:28 TR Bot; Alito an Incel? - CounterPunch.org
10:29 matey; it wanted a pair of headphones that dont go in my ear
10:29 matey; it wanted a pair of headphones that dont go in my ear
10:29 matey; normally i use earbuds of course
10:29 matey; normally i use earbuds of course
10:29 matey; most had bluetooth
10:29 matey; most had bluetooth
10:30 matey; i got wired ones
10:30 matey; i got wired ones
10:30 matey; but they have a microphone
10:30 matey; but they have a microphone
10:30 TR News; "state of U.S. privacy and user security is arguably pathetic." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/report-most-mental-health-prayer-apps-have-abysmal-security-and-privacy-standards/ | Source: Techdirt
10:30 TR News; "state of U.S. privacy and user security is arguably pathetic." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/report-most-mental-health-prayer-apps-have-abysmal-security-and-privacy-standards/ | Source: Techdirt
10:30 TR Bot; Most Mental Health, Prayer Apps Have Abysmal Security And Privacy Standards | Techdirt
10:30 TR Bot; Most Mental Health, Prayer Apps Have Abysmal Security And Privacy Standards | Techdirt
10:30 matey; sadly, my laptop supports the mic connector
10:30 matey; sadly, my laptop supports the mic connector
10:30 TR News; CJEU https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/applying-artificial-intelligence-to-the-copyright-directives-stupid-idea-of-upload-filters/ | Source: Techdirt
10:30 TR News; CJEU https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/applying-artificial-intelligence-to-the-copyright-directives-stupid-idea-of-upload-filters/ | Source: Techdirt
10:30 TR Bot; (Artificial) Intelligence To The Copyright Directives Stupid Idea Of Upload Filters | Techdirt
10:30 TR Bot; (Artificial) Intelligence To The Copyright Directives Stupid Idea Of Upload Filters | Techdirt
10:30 matey; and its built into the plug
10:30 matey; and its built into the plug
10:30 matey; now i know what youre thinking, the laptop has a mic anyway
10:30 matey; now i know what youre thinking, the laptop has a mic anyway
10:31 matey; it doesnt though, because i removed it
10:31 matey; it doesnt though, because i removed it
10:31 matey; so i opened the headphones and removed the mic from those too
10:31 matey; so i opened the headphones and removed the mic from those too
10:31 matey; it was actually pretty easy
10:31 matey; it was actually pretty easy
10:31 matey; there was a separate tiny board to hold the mic
10:31 matey; there was a separate tiny board to hold the mic
10:31 matey; and two thin wires going to it
10:31 matey; and two thin wires going to it
10:32 matey; i twisted and pulled the wires off the solder connections
10:32 matey; i twisted and pulled the wires off the solder connections
10:32 matey; only tool used was a screwdriver
10:32 matey; only tool used was a screwdriver
10:32 matey; the hardest part was getting the foam covers slipped back on
10:32 matey; the hardest part was getting the foam covers slipped back on
10:32 matey; i knew that part would be a bitch and it was
10:32 matey; i knew that part would be a bitch and it was
10:32 schestowitz; LOL spamnil.. clown shortage
10:32 schestowitz; LOL spamnil.. clown shortage
10:32 schestowitz; https://www.tfir.io/how-companies-can-overcome-cloud-skills-shortage-rahul-pradhan-couchbas/
10:32 schestowitz; https://www.tfir.io/how-companies-can-overcome-cloud-skills-shortage-rahul-pradhan-couchbas/
10:32 TR Bot; How Companies Can Overcome Cloud Skills Shortage | Rahul Pradhan, Couchbase - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs
10:32 TR Bot; How Companies Can Overcome Cloud Skills Shortage | Rahul Pradhan, Couchbase - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs
10:32 schestowitz; "skills" LOLL
10:32 schestowitz; "skills" LOLL
10:32 schestowitz; yeah, we need more people to memorise proprioetary GUIs
10:32 schestowitz; yeah, we need more people to memorise proprioetary GUIs
10:33 schestowitz; and then join companies
10:33 schestowitz; and then join companies
10:33 schestowitz; and say
10:33 schestowitz; and say
10:33 schestowitz; "shit, I don't know how to manage this thing"
10:33 schestowitz; "shit, I don't know how to manage this thing"
10:33 schestowitz; "we need CLOWN migration"
10:33 schestowitz; "we need CLOWN migration"
10:33 schestowitz; "let's fork it all over to spying firms"
10:33 schestowitz; "let's fork it all over to spying firms"
10:33 schestowitz; "so I can use their proprietary controls"
10:33 schestowitz; "so I can use their proprietary controls"
10:33 matey; progress
10:33 matey; progress
10:33 schestowitz; back to the mainframe, folks
10:33 schestowitz; back to the mainframe, folks
10:33 schestowitz; we got it all wrong
10:33 schestowitz; we got it all wrong
10:34 schestowitz; businesses having servers is nazism
10:34 schestowitz; businesses having servers is nazism
10:34 matey; and sexist
10:34 matey; and sexist
10:34 matey; short term, its cheaper to move to the clown
10:34 matey; short term, its cheaper to move to the clown
10:34 matey; long term, having all your data hostage wont affect prices, it cant
10:34 matey; long term, having all your data hostage wont affect prices, it cant
10:35 matey; plus think of the convenience of random companies having unfettered access to all your sensitive data
10:35 matey; plus think of the convenience of random companies having unfettered access to all your sensitive data
10:35 TR News; Oh, shit, it looks like ubuntu loco council got cracked again. SPAM posted as articles in their front page again! Last week also: http://techrights.org/2022/05/05/ubuntu-loco-council-crack/
10:35 matey; it just makes sense to move to the clown
10:35 TR News; Oh, shit, it looks like ubuntu loco council got cracked again. SPAM posted as articles in their front page again! Last week also: http://techrights.org/2022/05/05/ubuntu-loco-council-crack/
10:35 matey; it just makes sense to move to the clown
10:35 TR Bot; Ubuntu LoCo Council Gone Loco or Just Cracked | Techrights
10:35 TR Bot; Ubuntu LoCo Council Gone Loco or Just Cracked | Techrights
10:35 TR News; 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164713
10:35 TR News; 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164713
10:35 TR Bot; 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] | Tux Machines
10:35 TR Bot; 10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 36 Workstation [With Bonus Tip] | Tux Machines
10:36 matey; if youre in marketing, listen to what bill hicks said to do
10:36 matey; if youre in marketing, listen to what bill hicks said to do
10:36 matey; then do it
10:36 matey; then do it
10:37 schestowitz-TR; "kill yourself"
10:37 schestowitz-TR; "kill yourself"
10:37 schestowitz-TR; (he killed himself with smoking)
10:37 schestowitz-TR; (he killed himself with smoking)
10:37 matey; he wasnt in marketing though
10:37 matey; he wasnt in marketing though
10:37 schestowitz-TR; I loved his skits
10:37 schestowitz-TR; I loved his skits
10:37 schestowitz-TR; but he died so young
10:37 schestowitz-TR; but he died so young
10:37 schestowitz-TR; Carlin at least did like 4 decades
10:37 schestowitz-TR; Carlin at least did like 4 decades
10:38 schestowitz-TR; and each decade he dealt with different thing
10:38 schestowitz-TR; and each decade he dealt with different thing
10:38 schestowitz-TR; from counterculture when he was young
10:38 schestowitz-TR; from counterculture when he was young
10:38 schestowitz-TR; to picking on words
10:38 schestowitz-TR; to picking on words
10:38 schestowitz-TR; and eventually more poltiics
10:38 schestowitz-TR; and eventually more poltiics
10:38 matey; carlin died when he stopped being funny
10:38 matey; carlin died when he stopped being funny
10:38 matey; dana carvey is still with us
10:38 matey; dana carvey is still with us
10:38 matey; i liked garth though
10:38 matey; i liked garth though
10:38 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164714
10:38 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164714
10:38 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:38 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
10:39 matey; dana carvey auditioned for snl with a song that made fun of reo speedwagon. or foreigner.
10:39 matey; dana carvey auditioned for snl with a song that made fun of reo speedwagon. or foreigner.
10:39 TR News; "Laura Loomer still thinks she can sue her way back onto Facebook and Twitter." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/alt-right-journalist-whos-lost-every-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts-files-another-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts/ | Source: Techdirt
10:39 TR News; "Laura Loomer still thinks she can sue her way back onto Facebook and Twitter." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/alt-right-journalist-whos-lost-every-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts-files-another-lawsuit-over-banned-accounts/ | Source: Techdirt
10:39 TR Bot; Right Journalist Whos Lost Every Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts Files Another Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts | Techdirt
10:39 TR Bot; Right Journalist Whos Lost Every Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts Files Another Lawsuit Over Banned Accounts | Techdirt
10:39 TR News; "News Bargaining Code" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/why-are-people-blaming-facebook-for-australias-terrible-news-linking-tax-law/ | Source: Techdirt
10:39 TR News; "News Bargaining Code" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/why-are-people-blaming-facebook-for-australias-terrible-news-linking-tax-law/ | Source: Techdirt
10:39 TR Bot; Are People Still Blaming Facebook For Australias Terrible News Linking Tax Law? | Techdirt
10:39 TR Bot; Are People Still Blaming Facebook For Australias Terrible News Linking Tax Law? | Techdirt
10:39 matey; it was a song literally about cutting up broccoli
10:39 matey; it was a song literally about cutting up broccoli
10:40 schestowitz-TR; heh
10:40 schestowitz-TR; heh
10:40 matey; but like so many comedians, he stopped being funny when he had kids
10:40 matey; but like so many comedians, he stopped being funny when he had kids
10:40 TR News; "resigned sob" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/cops-are-being-trained-by-consultants-who-have-publicly-outed-themselves-as-bigots-and-far-right-extremists/ | Source: Techdirt
10:40 TR News; "resigned sob" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/cops-are-being-trained-by-consultants-who-have-publicly-outed-themselves-as-bigots-and-far-right-extremists/ | Source: Techdirt
10:40 TR Bot; Are Being Trained By Consultants Who Have Publicly Outed Themselves As Bigots And Far Right Extremists | Techdirt
10:40 TR Bot; Are Being Trained By Consultants Who Have Publicly Outed Themselves As Bigots And Far Right Extremists | Techdirt
10:41 matey; which is why if i have kids im going to teach them the worst most offensive jokes i can think of
10:41 matey; which is why if i have kids im going to teach them the worst most offensive jokes i can think of
10:41 matey; and not do any g or pg rated movies
10:41 matey; and not do any g or pg rated movies
10:41 matey; not that im a great comedian
10:41 matey; not that im a great comedian
10:41 matey; but its just, kids ruin comedians
10:41 matey; but its just, kids ruin comedians
10:42 schestowitz-TR; stories about them being beaten up
10:42 schestowitz-TR; stories about them being beaten up
10:42 matey; no i mean they go full disney
10:42 matey; no i mean they go full disney
10:42 schestowitz-TR; being funny often requires some offense
10:42 schestowitz-TR; being funny often requires some offense
10:42 schestowitz-TR; if you understand what causes laughter and irony
10:42 schestowitz-TR; if you understand what causes laughter and irony
10:42 schestowitz-TR; like jokes about putin
10:42 schestowitz-TR; like jokes about putin
10:42 matey; robin williams did rv i think
10:42 matey; robin williams did rv i think
10:42 schestowitz-TR; would they insult people who support putin?
10:42 schestowitz-TR; would they insult people who support putin?
10:42 schestowitz-TR; "are you insulting my politics?"
10:42 schestowitz-TR; "are you insulting my politics?"
10:43 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
10:43 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU
10:43 matey; dana carvey did that one where he plays all these different people in disguise
10:43 matey; dana carvey did that one where he plays all these different people in disguise
10:43 TR Bot; In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious
10:43 TR Bot; In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious
10:43 schestowitz-TR; Atkinson: are you INSULT mute people???
10:43 schestowitz-TR; Atkinson: are you INSULT mute people???
10:43 matey; and dana carvey played george bush until he became sympathetic
10:43 matey; and dana carvey played george bush until he became sympathetic
10:43 matey; which is awful
10:43 matey; which is awful
10:43 matey; i mean mr bean wasnt mute, he just rarely spoke
10:43 matey; i mean mr bean wasnt mute, he just rarely spoke
10:44 matey; though selective mutism is a thing, so...
10:44 matey; though selective mutism is a thing, so...
10:44 matey; it gave him international appeal because you dont have to speak (anything) to get mr bean
10:44 matey; it gave him international appeal because you dont have to speak (anything) to get mr bean
10:44 TR News; (broadband=surveillance; you cannot EAT broadband, but wider broadband access enables control over YOU) "This week the Biden administration spent some time celebrating its accomplishments on broadband." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/team-biden-celebrates-broadband-accomplishments-yet-is-leaving-fcc-nominee-gigi-sohn-hanging-out-to-dry/ | Source: Techdirt
10:44 TR News; (broadband=surveillance; you cannot EAT broadband, but wider broadband access enables control over YOU) "This week the Biden administration spent some time celebrating its accomplishments on broadband." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/team-biden-celebrates-broadband-accomplishments-yet-is-leaving-fcc-nominee-gigi-sohn-hanging-out-to-dry/ | Source: Techdirt
10:44 TR Bot; Biden Celebrates Broadband Accomplishments, Yet Is Leaving FCC Nominee Gigi Sohn Hanging Out To Dry | Techdirt
10:44 TR Bot; Biden Celebrates Broadband Accomplishments, Yet Is Leaving FCC Nominee Gigi Sohn Hanging Out To Dry | Techdirt
10:45 matey; of course now he champions free speech
10:45 matey; of course now he champions free speech
10:45 TR News; MusKSA will turn Twitter to dust very fast. If you are STILL posting in Twitter, you are a FOOL. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/what-free-speech-elon-musk-endorses-eus-highly-censorial-approach-to-content-moderation-which-twitter-has-spent-years-fighting/ | Source: Techdirt
10:45 TR News; MusKSA will turn Twitter to dust very fast. If you are STILL posting in Twitter, you are a FOOL. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/10/what-free-speech-elon-musk-endorses-eus-highly-censorial-approach-to-content-moderation-which-twitter-has-spent-years-fighting/ | Source: Techdirt
10:45 TR Bot; Free Speech? Elon Musk Endorses EUs Highly Censorial Approach To Content Moderation; Which Twitter Has Spent Years Fighting | Techdirt
10:45 TR Bot; Free Speech? Elon Musk Endorses EUs Highly Censorial Approach To Content Moderation; Which Twitter Has Spent Years Fighting | Techdirt
10:45 matey; because he knows british law is a real threat to comedy
10:45 matey; because he knows british law is a real threat to comedy
10:45 matey; and cleese left britain i suppose
10:45 matey; and cleese left britain i suppose
10:45 schestowitz-TR; singapore
10:45 schestowitz-TR; singapore
10:45 schestowitz-TR; like many others
10:45 schestowitz-TR; like many others
10:46 schestowitz-TR; singapore is even worse
10:46 schestowitz-TR; singapore is even worse
10:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe they just wanted a funny place
10:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe they just wanted a funny place
10:46 matey; fsvo worse
10:46 matey; fsvo worse
10:46 schestowitz-TR; where the former british colonists are treated with special respect
10:46 schestowitz-TR; where the former british colonists are treated with special respect
10:46 schestowitz-TR; *sunny
10:46 schestowitz-TR; *sunny
10:46 schestowitz-TR; not funny
10:46 schestowitz-TR; not funny
10:46 matey; im only a fan of their coffee
10:46 matey; im only a fan of their coffee
10:46 schestowitz-TR; funny also
10:46 schestowitz-TR; funny also
10:46 schestowitz-TR; but don't get TOO FUNNY in Singapore
10:46 schestowitz-TR; but don't get TOO FUNNY in Singapore
10:46 matey; actually
10:46 matey; actually
10:46 schestowitz-TR; the British-inherited Death Penalty might catch up with you
10:46 schestowitz-TR; the British-inherited Death Penalty might catch up with you
10:47 matey; despite the fact that singapore kills people for various offenses like drug smuggling
10:47 matey; despite the fact that singapore kills people for various offenses like drug smuggling
10:47 schestowitz-TR; in singapore people barely get humour
10:47 schestowitz-TR; in singapore people barely get humour
10:47 matey; comedians there are not very pc, nor do they have to be
10:47 matey; comedians there are not very pc, nor do they have to be
10:47 schestowitz-TR; the ones I saw are obedient workers, with rather dry personality
10:47 schestowitz-TR; the ones I saw are obedient workers, with rather dry personality
10:47 schestowitz-TR; singapore has trh tourism area
10:47 schestowitz-TR; singapore has trh tourism area
10:47 matey; you didnt know where to look
10:47 matey; you didnt know where to look
10:47 schestowitz-TR; like some arab countries
10:47 schestowitz-TR; like some arab countries
10:47 schestowitz-TR; to maintain the facade of internationalist
10:47 schestowitz-TR; to maintain the facade of internationalist
10:48 schestowitz-TR; investments, banking, casinos
10:48 schestowitz-TR; investments, banking, casinos
10:48 matey; im no fan of singapore
10:48 matey; im no fan of singapore
10:48 matey; just the coffee
10:48 matey; just the coffee
10:48 matey; actually wait
10:48 matey; actually wait
10:48 schestowitz-TR; probably very expensive
10:48 schestowitz-TR; probably very expensive
10:48 matey; lol
10:48 matey; lol
10:48 schestowitz-TR; we could not find where to eat
10:48 schestowitz-TR; we could not find where to eat
10:48 matey; not even the coffee
10:48 matey; not even the coffee
10:48 schestowitz-TR; it's always expensive
10:48 schestowitz-TR; it's always expensive
10:48 schestowitz-TR; no matter where
10:48 schestowitz-TR; no matter where
10:48 matey; the best coffee in the world comes from vietnam
10:48 matey; the best coffee in the world comes from vietnam
10:48 schestowitz-TR; maybe Little India was a little cheaper... just a little
10:48 schestowitz-TR; maybe Little India was a little cheaper... just a little
10:49 schestowitz-TR; matey: Coffee fertilised by Dow Chemicals
10:49 schestowitz-TR; matey: Coffee fertilised by Dow Chemicals
10:49 schestowitz-TR; and Monsanto
10:49 schestowitz-TR; and Monsanto
10:49 matey; like most
10:49 matey; like most
10:49 schestowitz-TR; "fertilised"
10:49 schestowitz-TR; "fertilised"
10:49 schestowitz-TR; same process that makes bombs
10:49 schestowitz-TR; same process that makes bombs
10:49 schestowitz-TR; like nukes for energy and for bombs
10:49 schestowitz-TR; like nukes for energy and for bombs
10:49 schestowitz-TR; you just adjust the parameters a little
10:49 schestowitz-TR; you just adjust the parameters a little
10:49 matey; its a breath mint, its a candy mint
10:49 matey; its a breath mint, its a candy mint
10:49 matey; its chemical fertiliser, its a munition
10:49 matey; its chemical fertiliser, its a munition
10:50 TR News; "weird antitrust lore" https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/09/rest-in-piss-robert-bork/#harmful-dominance | Source: CoryDoctorow
10:50 TR News; "weird antitrust lore" https://pluralistic.net/2022/05/09/rest-in-piss-robert-bork/#harmful-dominance | Source: CoryDoctorow
10:50 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 09 May 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
10:50 TR Bot; Pluralistic: 09 May 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
10:50 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://doctorow.medium.com/about-those-kill-switched-ukrainian-tractors-bc93f471b9c8 |
10:50 TR News; Digital Restrictions (DRM) https://doctorow.medium.com/about-those-kill-switched-ukrainian-tractors-bc93f471b9c8 |
10:50 TR Bot; About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors | by Cory Doctorow | May, 2022 | Medium
10:50 TR Bot; About those kill-switched Ukrainian tractors | by Cory Doctorow | May, 2022 | Medium
10:50 matey; roundup the usual suspects
10:50 matey; roundup the usual suspects
10:50 TR News; "As has been the case recently, the Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-05-09_haiku_activity_contract_report_april_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS
10:50 TR News; "As has been the case recently, the Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-05-09_haiku_activity_contract_report_april_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS
10:50 TR Bot; Haiku Activity & Contract Report: April 2022 | Haiku Project
10:50 TR Bot; Haiku Activity & Contract Report: April 2022 | Haiku Project
10:51 TR News; "One major problem is that the AppArmor profiles used to "restrict" snaps make specific assumptions" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs | Source: uni Toronto
10:51 TR News; "One major problem is that the AppArmor profiles used to "restrict" snaps make specific assumptions" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs | Source: uni Toronto
10:51 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs
10:51 TR Bot; Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/SnapsVersusNFSHomedirs
10:51 TR News; "While replacing a Dell running Windows with a Lenovo running Linux sounds tempting for Chinese companies" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-orders-government-state-companies-to-scrap-foreign-pcs | Source: Tom's Hardware
10:51 TR News; "While replacing a Dell running Windows with a Lenovo running Linux sounds tempting for Chinese companies" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-orders-government-state-companies-to-scrap-foreign-pcs | Source: Tom's Hardware
10:51 TR Bot; China's Government, State-Backed Firms to Scrap Foreign PCs Within Two Years | Tom's Hardware
10:51 TR Bot; China's Government, State-Backed Firms to Scrap Foreign PCs Within Two Years | Tom's Hardware
10:55 TR News; "Heres a few links that have been solidifying this idea in my head as of late" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-web-beyond-browsers/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
10:55 TR News; "Heres a few links that have been solidifying this idea in my head as of late" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/the-web-beyond-browsers/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
10:55 TR Bot; The Web Beyond Browsers - Jim Nielsens Blog
10:55 TR Bot; The Web Beyond Browsers - Jim Nielsens Blog
10:55 TR News; "I know I'm painting a pretty bleak picture, but the reality is that the old web isn't lost." https://flower.codes/2022/05/08/rediscovering-discovery.html | Source: Zach Flower
10:55 TR News; "I know I'm painting a pretty bleak picture, but the reality is that the old web isn't lost." https://flower.codes/2022/05/08/rediscovering-discovery.html | Source: Zach Flower
10:55 TR Bot; Discovery on the Web | flower.codes
10:55 TR Bot; Discovery on the Web | flower.codes
11:00 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@th6czuhh2gauq.irc) has joined #techrights
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11:01 matey; heh
11:01 matey; heh
11:02 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> being funny often requires some offense
11:02 DaemonFC; <schestowitz-TR> being funny often requires some offense
11:02 matey; the amstrad 464 had the power supply in the monitor
11:02 matey; the amstrad 464 had the power supply in the monitor
11:02 matey; so you needed two cables from (/to) the monitor but you only needed one going to the wall
11:02 matey; so you needed two cables from (/to) the monitor but you only needed one going to the wall
11:02 DaemonFC; Because some of the humor involves taking idiots who want to be wrong with authority and ruining their day and getting them angry at you, and giving zero fucks.
11:02 DaemonFC; Because some of the humor involves taking idiots who want to be wrong with authority and ruining their day and getting them angry at you, and giving zero fucks.
11:03 DaemonFC; The hallmark of a guy who has lost his argument is that they should just be free of any criticism and that's the end of that.
11:03 DaemonFC; The hallmark of a guy who has lost his argument is that they should just be free of any criticism and that's the end of that.
11:03 matey; josh simmons
11:03 matey; josh simmons
11:03 DaemonFC; Like Clarence Thomas saying that disagreeing with the "court" means you are "bullying" him.
11:03 DaemonFC; Like Clarence Thomas saying that disagreeing with the "court" means you are "bullying" him.
11:04 matey; hiding behind the robe
11:04 matey; hiding behind the robe
11:04 DaemonFC; He uses the word "bullying" as if someone was in his high school beating him up, taking his lunch money and giving him a swirly in the boy's room toilet on the way out.
11:04 DaemonFC; He uses the word "bullying" as if someone was in his high school beating him up, taking his lunch money and giving him a swirly in the boy's room toilet on the way out.
11:05 DaemonFC; The guy is part of a 9 judge dictatorship that does whatever it wants to and hides behind fences and cops while they get free healthcare and a six figure salary (not counting the bribes).
11:05 DaemonFC; The guy is part of a 9 judge dictatorship that does whatever it wants to and hides behind fences and cops while they get free healthcare and a six figure salary (not counting the bribes).
11:05 TR News; "Game of Trees is a version control system which prioritizes ease of use and simplicity over flexibility." https://ports.macports.org/port/got/details/ |
11:05 TR News; "Game of Trees is a version control system which prioritizes ease of use and simplicity over flexibility." https://ports.macports.org/port/got/details/ |
11:05 TR Bot; got | MacPorts
11:05 TR Bot; got | MacPorts
11:05 DaemonFC; That's how the government works, and people think it's some sacred process established by Jesus Christ personally.
11:05 DaemonFC; That's how the government works, and people think it's some sacred process established by Jesus Christ personally.
11:05 matey; scotus and potus are more of a 10 person dictatorship timeshare
11:05 matey; scotus and potus are more of a 10 person dictatorship timeshare
11:06 DaemonFC; They take the government seriously, and that's their first offense.
11:06 DaemonFC; They take the government seriously, and that's their first offense.
11:06 matey; but its a puppet government installed by the corporations anyway
11:06 matey; but its a puppet government installed by the corporations anyway
11:06 matey; with 10 puppets
11:06 matey; with 10 puppets
11:06 DaemonFC; The only way anyone should take the government seriously is that it can hurt you and it won't feel bad about doing that.
11:06 DaemonFC; The only way anyone should take the government seriously is that it can hurt you and it won't feel bad about doing that.
11:07 DaemonFC; That's "respect" in the same way as "respecting" that a Mexican drug lord can give your family Colombian neck ties if you piss him off.
11:07 DaemonFC; That's "respect" in the same way as "respecting" that a Mexican drug lord can give your family Colombian neck ties if you piss him off.
11:07 TR News; "Ive been intrigued by the concept of using computers to generate audio for a long time." https://zach.se/generate-audio-with-python/ |
11:07 TR News; "Ive been intrigued by the concept of using computers to generate audio for a long time." https://zach.se/generate-audio-with-python/ |
11:07 TR Bot; Generate Audio with Python - Zach Denton
11:07 TR Bot; Generate Audio with Python - Zach Denton
11:07 matey; "thats the rules that i just made up, and im backing it up with this gun that i got from the national rifle association"-- eddie izzard
11:07 matey; "thats the rules that i just made up, and im backing it up with this gun that i got from the national rifle association"-- eddie izzard
11:07 DaemonFC; There's nothing wrong with gun ownership.
11:07 DaemonFC; There's nothing wrong with gun ownership.
11:08 matey; i agree
11:08 matey; i agree
11:08 matey; but hes entitled to have some fun with gun culture
11:08 matey; but hes entitled to have some fun with gun culture
11:08 TR News; "The declaration was signed on the 8th of December 2020 by all EU Member States" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/first-report-berlin-declaration-out | Source: Joinup
11:08 TR News; "The declaration was signed on the 8th of December 2020 by all EU Member States" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/interoperable-europe/news/first-report-berlin-declaration-out | Source: Joinup
11:08 TR Bot; The first report on the Berlin Declaration is out | Joinup
11:08 TR Bot; The first report on the Berlin Declaration is out | Joinup
11:08 matey; he was really making fun of colonialism
11:08 matey; he was really making fun of colonialism
11:08 DaemonFC; Everyone who isn't an inmate, a convicted felon, certifiably insane, or a sex criminal, should be required by law to have at least one, as well as training.
11:08 DaemonFC; Everyone who isn't an inmate, a convicted felon, certifiably insane, or a sex criminal, should be required by law to have at least one, as well as training.
11:08 matey; the nra was a deliberate anachronism
11:08 matey; the nra was a deliberate anachronism
11:09 DaemonFC; Illinois says you can't get a FOID card if you're one of those things, and that must surely explain why Chicago is happening.
11:09 DaemonFC; Illinois says you can't get a FOID card if you're one of those things, and that must surely explain why Chicago is happening.
11:10 DaemonFC; We have laws, criminals break laws, Dumbfuckcrat Communist Party hopes people aren't smart enough to realize that the crime happens because we're not executing or imprisoning those people, proposes replacing the cops with a social worker.
11:10 DaemonFC; We have laws, criminals break laws, Dumbfuckcrat Communist Party hopes people aren't smart enough to realize that the crime happens because we're not executing or imprisoning those people, proposes replacing the cops with a social worker.
11:11 matey; thats not why crime happens
11:11 matey; thats not why crime happens
11:11 DaemonFC; That IS why there is so much crime.
11:11 DaemonFC; That IS why there is so much crime.
11:11 matey; no it isnt
11:11 matey; no it isnt
11:11 DaemonFC; Hang 'em or put 'em in prison so long they forget their own name, and a lot of that goes away.
11:11 DaemonFC; Hang 'em or put 'em in prison so long they forget their own name, and a lot of that goes away.
11:12 matey; well, no
11:12 matey; well, no
11:12 DaemonFC; Well, actually, yeah.
11:12 DaemonFC; Well, actually, yeah.
11:12 matey; what theyre doing is nothing, and thats a problem
11:12 matey; what theyre doing is nothing, and thats a problem
11:12 matey; they do need to actually do something
11:12 matey; they do need to actually do something
11:12 DaemonFC; If it bothers people, then they should have behaved themselves.
11:12 DaemonFC; If it bothers people, then they should have behaved themselves.
11:12 matey; its not that
11:12 matey; its not that
11:13 DaemonFC; I'm not calling for, like, the Philippines where you spend 5 years in prison waiting for your trial, however that goes, if you ever get one.
11:13 DaemonFC; I'm not calling for, like, the Philippines where you spend 5 years in prison waiting for your trial, however that goes, if you ever get one.
11:13 DaemonFC; I'm not calling for summary execution by the police, like the Philippines has.
11:13 DaemonFC; I'm not calling for summary execution by the police, like the Philippines has.
11:13 DaemonFC; I'm saying arrest the bad guys and when you prove that they did whatever they did, give them what they have coming to them.
11:13 DaemonFC; I'm saying arrest the bad guys and when you prove that they did whatever they did, give them what they have coming to them.
11:14 matey; A 2017 DPIC analysis found that abolishing the death penalty had no measurable effect on murder rates in general or the rate at which police officers are killed, contradicting popular arguments that the death penalty is necessary for public safety and to protect law enforcement officials.
11:14 matey; A 2017 DPIC analysis found that abolishing the death penalty had no measurable effect on murder rates in general or the rate at which police officers are killed, contradicting popular arguments that the death penalty is necessary for public safety and to protect law enforcement officials.
11:14 matey; there are lower murder rates in places without the death penalty
11:14 matey; there are lower murder rates in places without the death penalty
11:14 matey; and as they abolish it, murder rates tend to go down
11:14 matey; and as they abolish it, murder rates tend to go down
11:14 matey; the problem with chicago isnt the lack of death penalty
11:14 matey; the problem with chicago isnt the lack of death penalty
11:15 matey; i mean thats the fact of it
11:15 matey; i mean thats the fact of it
11:15 matey; letting murderers roam from and doing nothing, thats a problem
11:15 matey; letting murderers roam from and doing nothing, thats a problem
11:15 matey; roam free
11:15 matey; roam free
11:15 matey; i mean if you do nothing to solve a problem, then the problem increases, who do you have to blame
11:15 matey; i mean if you do nothing to solve a problem, then the problem increases, who do you have to blame
11:16 DaemonFC; There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce.
11:16 DaemonFC; There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce.
11:16 matey; but if you think any solution is a good one, that explains why people still use windows
11:16 matey; but if you think any solution is a good one, that explains why people still use windows
11:17 matey; <DaemonFC> There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. <- dont be silly, you stated a casual relationship then when data doesnt support it you pull out post hoc?
11:17 matey; <DaemonFC> There's less margarine consumption per capita in states with less divorce. <- dont be silly, you stated a casual relationship then when data doesnt support it you pull out post hoc?
11:17 DaemonFC; Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. And that the death penalty isn't effective because they get to appeal it well past when their guilt has been proven.
11:17 DaemonFC; Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. And that the death penalty isn't effective because they get to appeal it well past when their guilt has been proven.
11:17 matey; Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. <- yes, that was covered too.
11:17 matey; Have you considered that the death penalty exists because those states are dealing with a crime problem and the public wants something done about it. <- yes, that was covered too.
11:17 DaemonFC; Well, you can determine that if we ban margarine, then nobody will get a divorce.
11:17 DaemonFC; Well, you can determine that if we ban margarine, then nobody will get a divorce.
11:17 DaemonFC; You'd be wrong, but if you prattle off statistics, that would be the way to solve a huge problem.
11:17 DaemonFC; You'd be wrong, but if you prattle off statistics, that would be the way to solve a huge problem.
11:17 matey; this isnt intellectually honest
11:17 matey; this isnt intellectually honest
11:18 matey; the death penalty is going down all over the world
11:18 matey; the death penalty is going down all over the world
11:18 matey; the murder rate should be increasing
11:18 matey; the murder rate should be increasing
11:18 matey; it isnt
11:18 matey; it isnt
11:18 DaemonFC; If you look at how stupid the average criminal is....right....
11:18 DaemonFC; If you look at how stupid the average criminal is....right....
11:18 DaemonFC; I mean, they try to punch a cop and run away and they think they'll get away.
11:18 DaemonFC; I mean, they try to punch a cop and run away and they think they'll get away.
11:19 matey; the criminal justice system is just like windows
11:19 matey; the criminal justice system is just like windows
11:19 matey; if it works properly, thats a bug, its not by design
11:19 matey; if it works properly, thats a bug, its not by design
11:19 matey; if it doesnt work properly, thats also a bug, and its by design
11:19 matey; if it doesnt work properly, thats also a bug, and its by design
11:19 matey; doing nothing isnt a solution
11:19 matey; doing nothing isnt a solution
11:19 matey; but neither is keeping whats broken and refusing to fix it
11:19 matey; but neither is keeping whats broken and refusing to fix it
11:19 matey; at best, the criminal justice system is windows xp.
11:19 matey; at best, the criminal justice system is windows xp.
11:19 DaemonFC; My mom's ex husband's son punched a cop.
11:19 DaemonFC; My mom's ex husband's son punched a cop.
11:20 DaemonFC; From jail, he said..."It's okay, dad, I did some drywall for him so I think I'll be okay.".
11:20 DaemonFC; From jail, he said..."It's okay, dad, I did some drywall for him so I think I'll be okay.".
11:21 DaemonFC; The whole cause/effect relationship doesn't exist in the mind of a habitual offender.
11:21 DaemonFC; The whole cause/effect relationship doesn't exist in the mind of a habitual offender.
11:22 matey; why would it
11:22 matey; why would it
11:22 matey; if youve been in the system youve seen that rules dont apply to anyone
11:22 matey; if youve been in the system youve seen that rules dont apply to anyone
11:22 matey; and the higher up you get, the less they apply
11:22 matey; and the higher up you get, the less they apply
11:22 DaemonFC; This is the same guy who, when mom found out his tooth was hurting, gave her dentist appointment to him offered to pay to get it filled because she felt bad for him, and he skipped the appointment and kept sticking tylenol pills in the hole in his tooth.
11:22 DaemonFC; This is the same guy who, when mom found out his tooth was hurting, gave her dentist appointment to him offered to pay to get it filled because she felt bad for him, and he skipped the appointment and kept sticking tylenol pills in the hole in his tooth.
11:23 matey; why didnt he go
11:23 matey; why didnt he go
11:23 DaemonFC; "It don't hurt....much..." Another tylenol.
11:23 DaemonFC; "It don't hurt....much..." Another tylenol.
11:24 TR News; "I believe that by feeding this unsustainable industry, for instance, replacing our laptops, cell phones" https://afhub.dev/2022/05/09/technology-is-evolving-too-fast/ | Source: Andre Franca
11:24 TR News; "I believe that by feeding this unsustainable industry, for instance, replacing our laptops, cell phones" https://afhub.dev/2022/05/09/technology-is-evolving-too-fast/ | Source: Andre Franca
11:24 TR Bot; Technology is evolving too fast
11:24 TR Bot; Technology is evolving too fast
11:24 TR News; [Old] "When I called IBM, the company declined to dispute or acknowledge Rolanders version" https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/12/18/cassidy-theres-more-to-the-story-of-software-pioneer-kildall/ | Source: Mercury News
11:24 TR News; [Old] "When I called IBM, the company declined to dispute or acknowledge Rolanders version" https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/12/18/cassidy-theres-more-to-the-story-of-software-pioneer-kildall/ | Source: Mercury News
11:24 TR Bot; Cassidy: Theres more to the story of software pioneer Kildall The Mercury News
11:24 TR Bot; Cassidy: Theres more to the story of software pioneer Kildall The Mercury News
11:24 TR News; "Remember when using The Internet was a chore? You had to wait for hours before the one family computer was free" https://flower.codes/2022/05/07/offline-first.html | Source: Zach Flower
11:24 TR News; "Remember when using The Internet was a chore? You had to wait for hours before the one family computer was free" https://flower.codes/2022/05/07/offline-first.html | Source: Zach Flower
11:24 TR Bot; Offline-First Technology | flower.codes
11:24 TR Bot; Offline-First Technology | flower.codes
11:25 DaemonFC; Stallman compared shedding COVID masks to not brushing your teeth and accepting that you'd lose most of them in a few years.
11:25 DaemonFC; Stallman compared shedding COVID masks to not brushing your teeth and accepting that you'd lose most of them in a few years.
11:25 DaemonFC; But people who are missing their teeth because they didn't brush aren't operating on that level, obviously.
11:25 DaemonFC; But people who are missing their teeth because they didn't brush aren't operating on that level, obviously.
11:25 DaemonFC; They're too dumb to sit down and say "If I do this, that will be the consequence, eventually.".
11:25 DaemonFC; They're too dumb to sit down and say "If I do this, that will be the consequence, eventually.".
11:26 matey; denial goes beyond mere ignorance
11:26 matey; denial goes beyond mere ignorance
11:26 matey; in the same way that rebar goes beyond just concrete
11:26 matey; in the same way that rebar goes beyond just concrete
11:26 DaemonFC; It's the same mentality with habitual criminals and most people who go deeply into debt who weren't buying food so they wouldn't starve. I'm talking max out the credit cards going to Star Wars land at Disney then go "Who knew the bill would come?".
11:26 DaemonFC; It's the same mentality with habitual criminals and most people who go deeply into debt who weren't buying food so they wouldn't starve. I'm talking max out the credit cards going to Star Wars land at Disney then go "Who knew the bill would come?".
11:28 matey; people learn
11:28 matey; people learn
11:28 DaemonFC; I mean, criminals aren't looking at law books and don't think anything will happen to them, so the punishment, whatever it is, loses some of its preventive effect.
11:28 DaemonFC; I mean, criminals aren't looking at law books and don't think anything will happen to them, so the punishment, whatever it is, loses some of its preventive effect.
11:28 matey; if you give them a world thats fucked up and broken
11:28 matey; if you give them a world thats fucked up and broken
11:28 matey; theyre either going to find a way to fix it, or theyll possibly become fucked up and broken
11:28 matey; theyre either going to find a way to fix it, or theyll possibly become fucked up and broken
11:28 DaemonFC; The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again.
11:28 DaemonFC; The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again.
11:28 matey; but dont expect them to follow the rules if they can see the rules are a liar
11:28 matey; but dont expect them to follow the rules if they can see the rules are a liar
11:28 matey; lie
11:28 matey; lie
11:28 DaemonFC; And then overall crime falls because the people doing it aren't there anymore.
11:28 DaemonFC; And then overall crime falls because the people doing it aren't there anymore.
11:29 matey; The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. <- you notice that im more in favour of an armed citizenry than the death penalty
11:29 matey; The preventive effect of harsh justice and allowing people to defend themselves with the use of deadly force is that there will be less folks around doing it over and over again. <- you notice that im more in favour of an armed citizenry than the death penalty
11:29 DaemonFC; You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable.
11:29 DaemonFC; You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable.
11:30 DaemonFC; To say nothing of the fact that the sooner they get what's coming to them, the less women they impregnate and the less broken homes and bad genes go on to create another crop.
11:30 DaemonFC; To say nothing of the fact that the sooner they get what's coming to them, the less women they impregnate and the less broken homes and bad genes go on to create another crop.
11:30 matey; You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. <- you could just kill everyone, then there would be no crime
11:30 matey; You get rid of 30-40% of the criminals somehow, crime falls. It's inevitable. <- you could just kill everyone, then there would be no crime
11:30 matey; but its a bit like amputating a limb when antibiotics are effective
11:30 matey; but its a bit like amputating a limb when antibiotics are effective
11:30 DaemonFC; Criminality is partly genetics, and it's partly environmental. It has a lot of causes.
11:30 DaemonFC; Criminality is partly genetics, and it's partly environmental. It has a lot of causes.
11:31 TR News; "Although most users appear to use TikTok in a non-problematic manner" https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-addiction-symptoms-study-users-b2072116.html | Source: The Independent UK
11:31 TR News; "Although most users appear to use TikTok in a non-problematic manner" https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/tiktok-addiction-symptoms-study-users-b2072116.html | Source: The Independent UK
11:31 TR Bot; New study identifies TikTok addiction and the symptoms that show when users have it | The Independent
11:31 TR Bot; New study identifies TikTok addiction and the symptoms that show when users have it | The Independent
11:31 matey; your take on it cuts enough corners to be made in the most backwater parts of china
11:31 matey; your take on it cuts enough corners to be made in the most backwater parts of china
11:31 TR News; "The TikTok algorithm is set up to track viewing habits" https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/6/23055481/tik-tok-addiction-social-media-mental-health-psychology | Source: Deseret News
11:31 TR News; "The TikTok algorithm is set up to track viewing habits" https://www.deseret.com/2022/5/6/23055481/tik-tok-addiction-social-media-mental-health-psychology | Source: Deseret News
11:31 TR Bot; are the signs of a TikTok addiction? - Deseret News
11:31 TR Bot; are the signs of a TikTok addiction? - Deseret News
11:31 DaemonFC; Just like drug abuse. You take a person with an impulse control disorder, and he never even meets his children because they go to a family that adopts them.
11:31 DaemonFC; Just like drug abuse. You take a person with an impulse control disorder, and he never even meets his children because they go to a family that adopts them.
11:31 TR News; "It also suggests that the most definitive signs of addiction are that the user become nervous" https://www.psypost.org/2022/05/new-study-identifies-the-most-definitive-signs-of-tiktok-addiction-63071 |
11:31 TR News; "It also suggests that the most definitive signs of addiction are that the user become nervous" https://www.psypost.org/2022/05/new-study-identifies-the-most-definitive-signs-of-tiktok-addiction-63071 |
11:31 TR Bot; New study identifies the most definitive signs of "TikTok addiction"
11:31 TR Bot; New study identifies the most definitive signs of "TikTok addiction"
11:32 matey; until you understand the problem, youre nearly certain to come up with a pisspoor solution
11:32 matey; until you understand the problem, youre nearly certain to come up with a pisspoor solution
11:32 DaemonFC; A higher percentage of them than normal will end up with some sort of impulse control disorder even though they never met their parents.
11:32 DaemonFC; A higher percentage of them than normal will end up with some sort of impulse control disorder even though they never met their parents.
11:32 DaemonFC; Why? There's a genetic component to it.
11:32 DaemonFC; Why? There's a genetic component to it.
11:32 matey; thats retarded
11:32 matey; thats retarded
11:32 DaemonFC; There's definitely some truth to "criminal genes".
11:32 DaemonFC; There's definitely some truth to "criminal genes".
11:32 DaemonFC; Everyone knows a family like my mom's ex husband's.
11:32 DaemonFC; Everyone knows a family like my mom's ex husband's.
11:33 DaemonFC; Where it's like "Fuck. Everyone who is even SLIGHTLY related to that guy has been in trouble with the law over and over again.".
11:33 DaemonFC; Where it's like "Fuck. Everyone who is even SLIGHTLY related to that guy has been in trouble with the law over and over again.".
11:33 matey; neglect lends itself to personality disorders
11:33 matey; neglect lends itself to personality disorders
11:33 DaemonFC; Like even cousins, nephews, etc.
11:33 DaemonFC; Like even cousins, nephews, etc.
11:33 matey; you dont have to meet your parents to get fucked up by them
11:33 matey; you dont have to meet your parents to get fucked up by them
11:33 matey; you dont have to meet your parents to be neglected
11:33 matey; you dont have to meet your parents to be neglected
11:34 matey; so why the fuck would that prove a genetic link?
11:34 matey; so why the fuck would that prove a genetic link?
11:34 TR News; ""Apple announced Tuesday that it's discontinuing the iPod Touch https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-ends-production-iconic-ipod-rcna28190 | Source: NBC
11:34 TR News; ""Apple announced Tuesday that it's discontinuing the iPod Touch https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/apple/apple-ends-production-iconic-ipod-rcna28190 | Source: NBC
11:34 TR Bot; Apple ends production of its iconic iPod
11:34 TR Bot; Apple ends production of its iconic iPod
11:34 matey; keep going and youll prove lumiferous aether too
11:34 matey; keep going and youll prove lumiferous aether too
11:34 TR News; "The iPod Touch going away marks the end of an era." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/10/23065412/apple-ipod-touch-canceled-discontinued | Source: The Verge
11:34 TR News; "The iPod Touch going away marks the end of an era." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/10/23065412/apple-ipod-touch-canceled-discontinued | Source: The Verge
11:34 TR Bot; Apple says the iPod Touch is available while supplies last - The Verge
11:34 TR Bot; Apple says the iPod Touch is available while supplies last - The Verge
11:34 matey; luminiferous
11:34 matey; luminiferous
11:34 DaemonFC; Bad genes are like a curse. Not everyone gets cancer. Some people inherit personality flaws that lead to criminal behavior and serious mental disorders.
11:34 DaemonFC; Bad genes are like a curse. Not everyone gets cancer. Some people inherit personality flaws that lead to criminal behavior and serious mental disorders.
11:35 matey; well, science isnt on your side with this
11:35 matey; well, science isnt on your side with this
11:35 DaemonFC; It's a a lotto ticket. Some people get all the good genes in the family while their brother got all the bad ones and not a lot else.
11:35 DaemonFC; It's a a lotto ticket. Some people get all the good genes in the family while their brother got all the bad ones and not a lot else.
11:35 matey; but have fun progressing from casual racism to eugenics.
11:35 matey; but have fun progressing from casual racism to eugenics.
11:35 DaemonFC; Take Bill Clinton for example.
11:35 DaemonFC; Take Bill Clinton for example.
11:35 matey; ive got better shit to do dr mengele
11:35 matey; ive got better shit to do dr mengele
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11:36 DaemonFC; Successful two-term president Bill Clinton. Sky high approval rating, even now.
11:36 DaemonFC; Successful two-term president Bill Clinton. Sky high approval rating, even now.
11:36 DaemonFC; Then there's his brother Roger, who has a two mile long criminal record including possession of crack.
11:36 DaemonFC; Then there's his brother Roger, who has a two mile long criminal record including possession of crack.
11:37 TR News; Windows TCO: "The number of Russian cyber-operations has doubled every month since December, when 15 were reported." https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/10/russia-seems-to-be-co-ordinating-cyber-attacks-with-its-military-campaign | Source: The Economist
11:37 TR News; Windows TCO: "The number of Russian cyber-operations has doubled every month since December, when 15 were reported." https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/05/10/russia-seems-to-be-co-ordinating-cyber-attacks-with-its-military-campaign | Source: The Economist
11:37 TR Bot; seems to be co-ordinating cyber-attacks with its military campaign | The Economist
11:37 TR Bot; seems to be co-ordinating cyber-attacks with its military campaign | The Economist
11:37 TR News; Windows TCO https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html | Source: IT Wire
11:37 TR News; Windows TCO https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/no-kidding,-microsoft-now-charges-firms-to-tackle-windows-ransomware.html | Source: IT Wire
11:37 TR Bot; - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware
11:37 TR Bot; - No kidding, Microsoft now charges firms to tackle Windows ransomware
11:38 TR News; Windows TCO: "sharing publicly its assessment that Russia launched cyber attacks in late February against commercial satellite communications networks to disrupt Ukrainian command and control during the invasion, and those actions had spillover impacts into other European countries." https://www.state.gov/attribution-of-russias-malicious-cyber-activity-against-ukraine/ | Source: USDept Of State
11:38 TR News; Windows TCO: "sharing publicly its assessment that Russia launched cyber attacks in late February against commercial satellite communications networks to disrupt Ukrainian command and control during the invasion, and those actions had spillover impacts into other European countries." https://www.state.gov/attribution-of-russias-malicious-cyber-activity-against-ukraine/ | Source: USDept Of State
11:38 TR Bot; Attribution of Russias Malicious Cyber Activity Against Ukraine - United States Department of State
11:38 TR Bot; Attribution of Russias Malicious Cyber Activity Against Ukraine - United States Department of State
11:38 TR News; Windows TCO https://riskybiznews.substack.com/p/risky-biz-news-costa-rica-declares |
11:38 TR News; Windows TCO https://riskybiznews.substack.com/p/risky-biz-news-costa-rica-declares |
11:38 TR Bot; Risky Biz News: Costa Rica declares national emergency after ransomware attack
11:38 TR Bot; Risky Biz News: Costa Rica declares national emergency after ransomware attack
11:39 TR News; Windows TCO https://therecord.media/costa-ricas-new-president-declares-state-of-emergency-after-conti-ransomware-attack/ | Source: The Record
11:39 TR News; Windows TCO https://therecord.media/costa-ricas-new-president-declares-state-of-emergency-after-conti-ransomware-attack/ | Source: The Record
11:39 TR Bot; Costa Ricas new president declares state of emergency after Conti ransomware attack - The Record by Recorded Future
11:39 TR Bot; Costa Ricas new president declares state of emergency after Conti ransomware attack - The Record by Recorded Future
11:39 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/9/23064321/costa-rica-conti-ransomware-attack-state-of-emergency-reward | Source: The Verge
11:39 TR News; Windows TCO https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/9/23064321/costa-rica-conti-ransomware-attack-state-of-emergency-reward | Source: The Verge
11:39 TR Bot; US State Department announces $10 million bounty after Costa Rica ransomware attack - The Verge
11:39 TR Bot; US State Department announces $10 million bounty after Costa Rica ransomware attack - The Verge
11:40 TR News; THANK MICROSOFT! Windows TCO https://www.cyberscoop.com/conti-costa-rica-ransomware-peru-unc1756/ | Source: Scoop News Group
11:40 TR News; THANK MICROSOFT! Windows TCO https://www.cyberscoop.com/conti-costa-rica-ransomware-peru-unc1756/ | Source: Scoop News Group
11:40 TR Bot; Rican president begins tenure with ransomware national emergency declaration - CyberScoop
11:40 TR Bot; Rican president begins tenure with ransomware national emergency declaration - CyberScoop
11:41 TR News; [Old] "After its direct listing shares skyrocketed to nearly $40, and have now returned to sub-$12" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4487929-palantir-the-great-reset | Source: Seeking Alpha
11:41 TR News; [Old] "After its direct listing shares skyrocketed to nearly $40, and have now returned to sub-$12" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4487929-palantir-the-great-reset | Source: Seeking Alpha
11:41 TR Bot; Palantir Stock: The Great Reset (NYSE:PLTR) | Seeking Alpha
11:41 TR Bot; Palantir Stock: The Great Reset (NYSE:PLTR) | Seeking Alpha
11:41 TR News; "Without decisive regulations on what data should be considered private" https://staceyoniot.com/we-need-laws-and-regulations-on-data-use-and-privacy/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
11:41 TR News; "Without decisive regulations on what data should be considered private" https://staceyoniot.com/we-need-laws-and-regulations-on-data-use-and-privacy/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
11:41 TR Bot; We need laws and regulations on data use and privacy - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
11:41 TR Bot; We need laws and regulations on data use and privacy - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
11:41 TR News; "injunction against the so-called chat control against Facebooks parent company" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/destruction-of-digital-privacy-of-correspondence-lawsuit-filed-against-chat-control/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
11:41 TR News; "injunction against the so-called chat control against Facebooks parent company" https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/destruction-of-digital-privacy-of-correspondence-lawsuit-filed-against-chat-control/ | Source: Patrick Breyer
11:41 TR Bot; Destruction of digital privacy of correspondence: lawsuit filed against chat control Patrick Breyer
11:41 TR Bot; Destruction of digital privacy of correspondence: lawsuit filed against chat control Patrick Breyer
11:53 TR News; Modern New Generation Linux Apps Store Download Now https://linuxstoney.com/modern-new-generation-linux-apps-store-download-now/
11:53 TR News; Modern New Generation Linux Apps Store Download Now https://linuxstoney.com/modern-new-generation-linux-apps-store-download-now/
11:53 TR Bot; New Generation Linux Apps Store Download Now - LinuxStoney
11:53 TR Bot; New Generation Linux Apps Store Download Now - LinuxStoney
11:53 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164715
11:53 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164715
11:53 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
11:53 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
11:55 TR News; Shortwave 3.0 Internet Radio released - LinuxStoney http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164643#comment-33614
11:55 TR News; Shortwave 3.0 Internet Radio released - LinuxStoney http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164643#comment-33614
11:55 TR Bot; Shortwave 3.0 Free Radio Player Comes with Support for GNOME 42 | Tux Machines
11:55 TR Bot; Shortwave 3.0 Free Radio Player Comes with Support for GNOME 42 | Tux Machines
11:57 TR News; [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc5 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-May/225772.html
11:57 TR News; [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc5 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2022-May/225772.html
11:57 TR Bot; [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc5
11:57 TR Bot; [ANNOUNCE] mesa 22.1.0-rc5
12:03 TR News; "Panelists at a Heritage Foundation event on Thursday agreed that the government should not make changes to Section 230" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/05/leave-section-230-alone-panelists-urge-government/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
12:03 TR News; "Panelists at a Heritage Foundation event on Thursday agreed that the government should not make changes to Section 230" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/05/leave-section-230-alone-panelists-urge-government/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
12:03 TR Bot; Leave Section 230 Alone, Panelists Urge Government : Broadband Breakfast
12:03 TR Bot; Leave Section 230 Alone, Panelists Urge Government : Broadband Breakfast
12:03 TR News; [Old] "The report veers off course in some of its reform recommendations." https://reason.com/2022/02/10/the-heritage-foundation-wants-to-break-the-internet/ | Source: Reason
12:03 TR News; [Old] "The report veers off course in some of its reform recommendations." https://reason.com/2022/02/10/the-heritage-foundation-wants-to-break-the-internet/ | Source: Reason
12:03 TR Bot; The Heritage Foundation Wants To Break the Internet
12:03 TR Bot; The Heritage Foundation Wants To Break the Internet
12:03 TR News; Mr. Breton is deeply corrupt, so he's meeting a total fraud https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-05-09/eu-industry-chief-breton-to-meet-musk-on-free-speech-chips-batteries |
12:03 TR News; Mr. Breton is deeply corrupt, so he's meeting a total fraud https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-05-09/eu-industry-chief-breton-to-meet-musk-on-free-speech-chips-batteries |
12:04 TR News; "To celebrate Europe Day, join us to learn more about your privacy and data protection rights at our EDPS" https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications/events/eu-open-day-brussels-3_en | EDPS = a bunch of useless hypocrites http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/edps-farce/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/
12:04 TR News; "To celebrate Europe Day, join us to learn more about your privacy and data protection rights at our EDPS" https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications/events/eu-open-day-brussels-3_en | EDPS = a bunch of useless hypocrites http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/edps-farce/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/10/edps-gdpr-epo-impunity/
12:05 TR News; Breton is a crook, why does he claim to represent Europe??? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/09/tech/elon-musk-twitter-europe-breton-dsa/index.html | Source: CNN
12:05 TR News; Breton is a crook, why does he claim to represent Europe??? https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/09/tech/elon-musk-twitter-europe-breton-dsa/index.html | Source: CNN
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12:06 TR News; Thierry Breton does nor represent Europe though, he's just an agent of oligarchs (he also worked for the Rothschilds before, then hid that) https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-industry-chief-breton-meet-musk-free-speech-chips-batteries-2022-05-09/ | Source: Reuters
12:06 TR News; Thierry Breton does nor represent Europe though, he's just an agent of oligarchs (he also worked for the Rothschilds before, then hid that) https://www.reuters.com/technology/eu-industry-chief-breton-meet-musk-free-speech-chips-batteries-2022-05-09/ | Source: Reuters
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12:07 TR News; Two crooks in one room https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/eu-industry-head-thierry-breton-elon-musk-signal-agreement-on-digital-services-act-332913-2022-05-10 | Source: Business Today
12:07 TR News; Two crooks in one room https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/eu-industry-head-thierry-breton-elon-musk-signal-agreement-on-digital-services-act-332913-2022-05-10 | Source: Business Today
12:07 TR Bot; EU industry head Thierry Breton, Elon Musk signal agreement on Digital Services Act - BusinessToday
12:07 TR Bot; EU industry head Thierry Breton, Elon Musk signal agreement on Digital Services Act - BusinessToday
12:10 TR News; The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164716
12:10 TR News; The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164716
12:10 TR Bot; The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. | Tux Machines
12:10 TR Bot; The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. | Tux Machines
12:10 TR News; "A Turkish pop singer who on Mothers Day posted a tweet about the situation of pregnant and sick women" https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/05/09/p-singer-deletes-solidarity-tweet-for-jailed-women-after-being-targeted-by-oda-tv/ | Source: Turkish Minute
12:10 TR News; "A Turkish pop singer who on Mothers Day posted a tweet about the situation of pregnant and sick women" https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/05/09/p-singer-deletes-solidarity-tweet-for-jailed-women-after-being-targeted-by-oda-tv/ | Source: Turkish Minute
12:10 TR Bot; Pop singer deletes solidarity tweet for jailed women after being targeted by Oda TV - Turkish Minute
12:10 TR Bot; Pop singer deletes solidarity tweet for jailed women after being targeted by Oda TV - Turkish Minute
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12:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 480.55
12:10 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 480.55
12:11 TR News; PayPal supports militarism https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/paypal-independent-media-journalism-censorship-tech/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
12:11 TR News; PayPal supports militarism https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/paypal-independent-media-journalism-censorship-tech/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
12:11 TR Bot; PayPal Has Begun Quietly Shuttering Left-Wing Media Accounts
12:11 TR Bot; PayPal Has Begun Quietly Shuttering Left-Wing Media Accounts
12:11 TR News; "opponents of free speech never sought to disguise their efforts by portraying their goal as the preservation of the very ideals that they are suborning" https://www.jns.org/opinion/even-if-theyre-wrong-we-shouldnt-be-trying-to-silence-them/ | Source: JNS
12:11 TR News; "opponents of free speech never sought to disguise their efforts by portraying their goal as the preservation of the very ideals that they are suborning" https://www.jns.org/opinion/even-if-theyre-wrong-we-shouldnt-be-trying-to-silence-them/ | Source: JNS
12:11 TR Bot; Even if theyre wrong, we shouldnt be trying to silence them
12:11 TR Bot; Even if theyre wrong, we shouldnt be trying to silence them
12:11 TR News; "Over the past week, the online payments company PayPal has launched a censorship campaign against independent and left-wing publishers" https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/04/uofx-m04.html | Source: WSWS
12:11 TR News; "Over the past week, the online payments company PayPal has launched a censorship campaign against independent and left-wing publishers" https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/04/uofx-m04.html | Source: WSWS
12:11 TR Bot; PayPal shuts accounts of anti-war publications Consortium News and MintPress News - World Socialist Web Site
12:11 TR Bot; PayPal shuts accounts of anti-war publications Consortium News and MintPress News - World Socialist Web Site
12:18 TR News; "Mexico, which is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world for journalists" https://www.axios.com/2022/05/10/11-journalists-killed-mexico | Source: Axios
12:18 TR News; "Mexico, which is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world for journalists" https://www.axios.com/2022/05/10/11-journalists-killed-mexico | Source: Axios
12:18 TR Bot; 11 journalists killed in Mexico so far this year
12:18 TR Bot; 11 journalists killed in Mexico so far this year
12:18 TR News; "The attack took place on 3 June in Petit-Couronne, a small town near the city of Rouen." https://rsf.org/en/tv-cameraman-attacked-while-filming-outside-mosque-northern-france | Source: RSF
12:18 TR News; "The attack took place on 3 June in Petit-Couronne, a small town near the city of Rouen." https://rsf.org/en/tv-cameraman-attacked-while-filming-outside-mosque-northern-france | Source: RSF
12:18 TR Bot; TV cameraman attacked while filming outside mosque in northern France | RSF
12:18 TR Bot; TV cameraman attacked while filming outside mosque in northern France | RSF
12:21 TR News; "As the pandemic pushed our health care system to the brink of collapse" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/nurses-strikes-labor/ | Source: The Nation
12:21 TR News; "As the pandemic pushed our health care system to the brink of collapse" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/nurses-strikes-labor/ | Source: The Nation
12:21 TR Bot; Nurses Are Fighting Backbut the Nightmare Continues | The Nation
12:21 TR Bot; Nurses Are Fighting Backbut the Nightmare Continues | The Nation
12:21 TR News; "In effect, while Amazon was doubling down on its union busting" https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/amazon-biden-administration-union-pledge-sanders-bezos-subsidies/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
12:21 TR News; "In effect, while Amazon was doubling down on its union busting" https://jacobinmag.com/2022/05/amazon-biden-administration-union-pledge-sanders-bezos-subsidies/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
12:21 TR Bot; Amazon Is Busting Unions. Biden Is Giving Them Huge Federal Contracts Anyway.
12:21 TR Bot; Amazon Is Busting Unions. Biden Is Giving Them Huge Federal Contracts Anyway.
12:26 DaemonFC; PayPal cuts off payments to a lot of outfits.
12:26 DaemonFC; PayPal cuts off payments to a lot of outfits.
12:26 DaemonFC; If I get money in my PayPal account, I never leave it there for long.
12:26 DaemonFC; If I get money in my PayPal account, I never leave it there for long.
12:27 DaemonFC; When Elon Musk was there, they pretty much just stole money out of people's accounts and figured they wouldn't get sued as long as it never amounted to much from any one user.
12:27 DaemonFC; When Elon Musk was there, they pretty much just stole money out of people's accounts and figured they wouldn't get sued as long as it never amounted to much from any one user.
12:35 DaemonFC; Back to the Future II didn't do a great job with 2015.
12:35 DaemonFC; Back to the Future II didn't do a great job with 2015.
12:35 DaemonFC; We didn't get flying cars, just a lot more potholes.
12:35 DaemonFC; We didn't get flying cars, just a lot more potholes.
12:35 DaemonFC; Doc hands him $50 for a Pepsi. That's 2022.
12:35 DaemonFC; Doc hands him $50 for a Pepsi. That's 2022.
12:46 schestowitz-TR; :-)
12:46 schestowitz-TR; :-)
12:48 DaemonFC; Okay, I got a kick out of the Reagan Max Headroom thing.
12:48 DaemonFC; Okay, I got a kick out of the Reagan Max Headroom thing.
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12:57 TR News; Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717
12:57 TR Bot; Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines
12:57 TR News; Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717
12:57 TR Bot; Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 393.66
12:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 393.66
13:17 TR News; So many holes that even Jeffrey Epstein and his BFF, Microsoft's Bill Gates, would be envious. "Check the hole on THAT one..." https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-may-2022-patch-tuesday-seven-critical-vulnerabilities/
13:17 TR News; So many holes that even Jeffrey Epstein and his BFF, Microsoft's Bill Gates, would be envious. "Check the hole on THAT one..." https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-may-2022-patch-tuesday-seven-critical-vulnerabilities/
13:17 TR Bot; May 2022 Patch Tuesday fixes 7 critical vulnerabilities, 67 others | ZDNet
13:17 TR Bot; May 2022 Patch Tuesday fixes 7 critical vulnerabilities, 67 others | ZDNet
13:19 TR News; While MusKSA buy the world's communication platform, along with Zuck... and not a penny for people IN NEED https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2022-05-11-foster-home-founder-caring-for-27-children-in-desperate-need-of-help/
13:19 TR News; While MusKSA buy the world's communication platform, along with Zuck... and not a penny for people IN NEED https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/2022-05-11-foster-home-founder-caring-for-27-children-in-desperate-need-of-help/
13:19 TR Bot; Foster home founder caring for 27 children in desperate need of help
13:19 TR Bot; Foster home founder caring for 27 children in desperate need of help
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13:31 MinceR; 11 064455 < DaemonFC> Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard.
13:31 MinceR; 11 064455 < DaemonFC> Arguing whether they liked Kirk or Picard.
13:31 MinceR; have Star Trek geeks fought wars over which was better yet?
13:31 MinceR; have Star Trek geeks fought wars over which was better yet?
13:45 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/beware-children.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/03/may-not-be-old-enough-for-prison-but-still-dangerous/ )
13:45 MinceR; http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/beware-children.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/03/may-not-be-old-enough-for-prison-but-still-dangerous/ )
13:45 TR Bot; May not be old enough for prison but still dangerous
13:45 TR Bot; May not be old enough for prison but still dangerous
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14:16 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0
14:16 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0
14:16 MinceR; (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0
14:16 TR Bot; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ONNRBmvNps0
14:16 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Jimmy O. Yang Teaches Us Tai Chi - Invidious
14:16 TR Bot; yewtu.be | Jimmy O. Yang Teaches Us Tai Chi - Invidious
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14:22 TR News; Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164718
14:22 TR News; Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164718
14:22 TR Bot; Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:22 TR Bot; Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164719
14:23 TR News; Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164719
14:23 TR Bot; Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:23 TR Bot; Web Browsers and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; RISC-V and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164720
14:23 TR News; RISC-V and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164720
14:23 TR Bot; RISC-V and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
14:23 TR Bot; RISC-V and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
14:23 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164721
14:23 TR News; Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164721
14:23 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More | Tux Machines
14:23 TR Bot; Games: Steam Deck, Transport Fever 2, VITURE One XR, and More | Tux Machines
14:24 TR News; Modren and Snaps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164722
14:24 TR News; Modren and Snaps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164722
14:24 TR Bot; Modren and Snaps | Tux Machines
14:24 TR Bot; Modren and Snaps | Tux Machines
14:24 TR News; Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164723
14:24 TR News; Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164723
14:24 TR Bot; Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 | Tux Machines
14:24 TR Bot; Graphics: AMD, Intel, and Mesa 22.1.0 RC5 | Tux Machines
14:25 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164724
14:25 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164724
14:25 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
14:25 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
14:27 TR News; Springfield isn't the most popular city name in the US gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/10.1
14:27 TR News; Springfield isn't the most popular city name in the US gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/10.1
14:28 TR News; In praise of git-request-pull gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-11.gmi
14:28 TR News; In praise of git-request-pull gemini://alex.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-05-11.gmi
14:29 TR News; "I'm just about to merge the dev branch of Antenna into production. I'm hoping there won't be any downtime because I'll do it in two steps and it's only CGI scripts (no app server! Yay!)." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-11-upgrading-antenna-today.gmi
14:29 TR News; "I'm just about to merge the dev branch of Antenna into production. I'm hoping there won't be any downtime because I'll do it in two steps and it's only CGI scripts (no app server! Yay!)." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-11-upgrading-antenna-today.gmi
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14:32 TR News; "PC tech standards are constantly changing. What can we expect from the next generation of computer hardware?" gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/next-gen-pc.gmi
14:32 TR News; "PC tech standards are constantly changing. What can we expect from the next generation of computer hardware?" gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/next-gen-pc.gmi
14:35 TR News; Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/
14:35 TR News; Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ipfire-2-27-core-update-16/
14:35 TR Bot; Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights
14:35 TR Bot; Links 11/05/2022: Update for elementary OS 7 and IPFire 2.27 Core Update 16 | Techrights
14:45 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/09/gavin-the-grrey-tabby-cat-on-plane/
14:45 MinceR; (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/09/gavin-the-grrey-tabby-cat-on-plane/
14:45 TR Bot; Gavin The Talkative Grey Tabby Cat Joins His Human On A Flight A Twitter Thread
14:45 TR Bot; Gavin The Talkative Grey Tabby Cat Joins His Human On A Flight A Twitter Thread
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 34.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 348.15
14:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 34.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 348.15
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15:06 techrights_guest|44; Please help me activate my home the tech that was suppose to foot didn't and here I sit with a phone that I paid for and wasn't even the phone I thought I was paying for but even more there's no service can some one here help me?
15:06 techrights_guest|44; Please help me activate my home the tech that was suppose to foot didn't and here I sit with a phone that I paid for and wasn't even the phone I thought I was paying for but even more there's no service can some one here help me?
15:06 MinceR; what
15:06 MinceR; what
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15:25 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050558
15:25 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050558
15:25 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0x6c3qorcax81.jpg created on 2022-05-05 22:47:20.433590
15:25 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/0x6c3qorcax81.jpg created on 2022-05-05 22:47:20.433590
15:36 schestowitz-TR; maybe weak english, MinceR
15:36 schestowitz-TR; maybe weak english, MinceR
15:36 MinceR; too weak for me to understand
15:36 MinceR; too weak for me to understand
15:36 schestowitz-TR; yeah
15:36 schestowitz-TR; yeah
15:36 schestowitz-TR; incomprehensible almost
15:36 schestowitz-TR; incomprehensible almost
15:48 XRevan86; I'm not even going to try to guess.
15:48 XRevan86; I'm not even going to try to guess.
15:53 DaemonFC; I think the third Back to the Future is the best, but it made a big gaffe with the DeLorean.
15:53 DaemonFC; I think the third Back to the Future is the best, but it made a big gaffe with the DeLorean.
15:54 DaemonFC; No car that's been sitting for 70 years would work again with just "a new set of tires".
15:54 DaemonFC; No car that's been sitting for 70 years would work again with just "a new set of tires".
15:54 DaemonFC; But I thought it was funny that they put the DeLorean on whitewall tires.
15:54 DaemonFC; But I thought it was funny that they put the DeLorean on whitewall tires.
15:55 MinceR; :>
15:55 MinceR; :>
15:57 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050432
15:57 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050432
15:57 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/l7rqboluu2x81.jpg created on 2022-05-04 09:32:44.644046
15:57 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/l7rqboluu2x81.jpg created on 2022-05-04 09:32:44.644046
15:57 TR News; 5 surprising things I do with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164725
15:57 TR News; 5 surprising things I do with Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164725
15:57 TR Bot; 5 surprising things I do with Linux | Tux Machines
15:57 TR Bot; 5 surprising things I do with Linux | Tux Machines
15:57 TR News; Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164726
15:57 TR News; Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164726
15:57 TR Bot; Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough | Tux Machines
15:57 TR Bot; Kubuntu 22.04 Jammy Jellyfish review - Okay, not LTS-y enough | Tux Machines
15:57 TR News; Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164727
15:57 TR News; Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164727
15:58 TR Bot; Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage | Tux Machines
15:58 TR Bot; Peergos: An Open-Source Google Drive Alternative Cloud Storage | Tux Machines
15:58 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164728
15:58 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164728
15:58 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:58 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
15:58 DaemonFC; MinceR, Whitewalls might look okay on my Buick, but they cost a lot of money now.
15:58 DaemonFC; MinceR, Whitewalls might look okay on my Buick, but they cost a lot of money now.
15:58 DaemonFC; Not much demand for them. Nobody drives anything classy anymore.
15:58 DaemonFC; Not much demand for them. Nobody drives anything classy anymore.
15:59 DaemonFC; So the market is mostly for classic cars.
15:59 DaemonFC; So the market is mostly for classic cars.
15:59 DaemonFC; This country has gone full on "cheap shit made in Mexico" or China.
15:59 DaemonFC; This country has gone full on "cheap shit made in Mexico" or China.
15:59 DaemonFC; Even the cars.
15:59 DaemonFC; Even the cars.
16:01 DaemonFC; The funnier part than the DeLorean on whitewalls is Dr. Brown buying Marty a very flamboyant looking 1950s retro-futuristic cowboy costume to wear in 1885.
16:01 DaemonFC; The funnier part than the DeLorean on whitewalls is Dr. Brown buying Marty a very flamboyant looking 1950s retro-futuristic cowboy costume to wear in 1885.
16:02 DaemonFC; MinceR, Of course, they may have gotten time travel wrong. Marty McFly should have been safe in the past even though he was a relic from a deleted timeline, until he repaired it.
16:02 DaemonFC; MinceR, Of course, they may have gotten time travel wrong. Marty McFly should have been safe in the past even though he was a relic from a deleted timeline, until he repaired it.
16:02 DaemonFC; If he is a non-event in the 1955 timeline, then he can't change the past, thus his parents get together like they were meant to, and he exists again.
16:02 DaemonFC; If he is a non-event in the 1955 timeline, then he can't change the past, thus his parents get together like they were meant to, and he exists again.
16:02 MinceR; time travel in movies usually doesn't make sense
16:02 MinceR; time travel in movies usually doesn't make sense
16:03 DaemonFC; Since this creates a paradox where both can't be true, it would be easier to just say that he's created an alternate universe in which he is matter that is an event in the spacetime of that universe from the point that he emerged from the primary universe.
16:03 DaemonFC; Since this creates a paradox where both can't be true, it would be easier to just say that he's created an alternate universe in which he is matter that is an event in the spacetime of that universe from the point that he emerged from the primary universe.
16:03 DaemonFC; Thus, it doesn't matter if he's ever born or not because he'll still exist in the alternate 1955.
16:03 DaemonFC; Thus, it doesn't matter if he's ever born or not because he'll still exist in the alternate 1955.
16:05 DaemonFC; Worse yet, that means that the Hellish 1985 where Biff screwed up the timeline still exists, otherwise he could not have emerged from it. Which means that alternate 1985 Biff is still there beating and raping his mother, even though Marty no longer exists there.
16:05 DaemonFC; Worse yet, that means that the Hellish 1985 where Biff screwed up the timeline still exists, otherwise he could not have emerged from it. Which means that alternate 1985 Biff is still there beating and raping his mother, even though Marty no longer exists there.
16:06 TR News; IBM had the audacity to write this while laying off some of its most talented people (and most valuable in the world) because they became "expensive" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/it-hiring-cybersecurity-skills-shortage
16:06 TR News; IBM had the audacity to write this while laying off some of its most talented people (and most valuable in the world) because they became "expensive" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/it-hiring-cybersecurity-skills-shortage
16:06 TR Bot; IT hiring: Tackling the cybersecurity skills shortage | The Enterprisers Project
16:06 TR Bot; IT hiring: Tackling the cybersecurity skills shortage | The Enterprisers Project
16:07 TR News; Miseading, false headline https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-not-keeping-location-history/
16:07 TR News; Miseading, false headline https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-not-keeping-location-history/
16:07 TR Bot; Facebook Will No Longer Keep Track of Your Location History - Make Tech Easier
16:07 TR Bot; Facebook Will No Longer Keep Track of Your Location History - Make Tech Easier
16:07 TR News; ICBM gives virtual badge (like NFT) in exchange for slavery https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-36
16:07 TR News; ICBM gives virtual badge (like NFT) in exchange for slavery https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-36
16:07 TR Bot; Fedora Badges
16:07 TR Bot; Fedora Badges
16:07 DaemonFC; The only part of the timeline that would be canonical to all future timelines would be 1955, up until the point that the original Marty emerged from the primary 1985. Even then, the third movie screws that up because they change things again in 1885. So there are now alternate 1955s leading to alternate 1985s and alternate 2015s.
16:07 DaemonFC; The only part of the timeline that would be canonical to all future timelines would be 1955, up until the point that the original Marty emerged from the primary 1985. Even then, the third movie screws that up because they change things again in 1885. So there are now alternate 1955s leading to alternate 1985s and alternate 2015s.
16:08 DaemonFC; So Doc Brown is correct in the second movie that 1955 is a nexus that has cosmic significance, until it doesn't anymore, and the nexus point moves to 1885 in the third movie.
16:08 DaemonFC; So Doc Brown is correct in the second movie that 1955 is a nexus that has cosmic significance, until it doesn't anymore, and the nexus point moves to 1885 in the third movie.
16:08 TR News; ICBM promotes outsourcing (clown computing) instead of server ownership and control https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/cloud-strategy-cios-cloud-providers
16:08 TR News; ICBM promotes outsourcing (clown computing) instead of server ownership and control https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/cloud-strategy-cios-cloud-providers
16:08 TR Bot; Cloud strategy: What CIOs really want from cloud providers | The Enterprisers Project
16:08 TR Bot; Cloud strategy: What CIOs really want from cloud providers | The Enterprisers Project
16:09 DaemonFC; There are now at least 4 variants of 1985.
16:09 DaemonFC; There are now at least 4 variants of 1985.
16:10 TR News; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Announced as the Next-Gen Backbone of Enterprise IT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33616
16:10 TR News; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Announced as the Next-Gen Backbone of Enterprise IT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33616
16:10 TR Bot; Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines
16:10 TR Bot; Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines
16:10 DaemonFC; And the third movie ignores completely that Doc Brown in 1955 learning about everything that would happen in the future would inevitably change his decisions leading up to the accident that sent him to 1885 in the first place, thus negating the need to unbury the DeLorean and go back to 1885.
16:10 DaemonFC; And the third movie ignores completely that Doc Brown in 1955 learning about everything that would happen in the future would inevitably change his decisions leading up to the accident that sent him to 1885 in the first place, thus negating the need to unbury the DeLorean and go back to 1885.
16:10 DaemonFC; MinceR, Time travel does not make sense. No.
16:10 DaemonFC; MinceR, Time travel does not make sense. No.
16:11 DaemonFC; It may or may not be possible, but even if anyone ever figures it out, it will be too dangerous to consider using.
16:11 DaemonFC; It may or may not be possible, but even if anyone ever figures it out, it will be too dangerous to consider using.
16:11 MinceR; it can be made sensible, but that would probably not be good for drama
16:11 MinceR; it can be made sensible, but that would probably not be good for drama
16:11 TR News; Spamnil is openwashing for IBM. A lot of the Web is nowadays webspam. https://www.tfir.io/call-for-proposals-open-for-open-mainframe-summit-philadelphia-donna-hudi/
16:11 TR News; Spamnil is openwashing for IBM. A lot of the Web is nowadays webspam. https://www.tfir.io/call-for-proposals-open-for-open-mainframe-summit-philadelphia-donna-hudi/
16:11 TR Bot; Call For Proposals Open For Open Mainframe Summit, Philadelphia | Donna Hudi - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs
16:11 TR Bot; Call For Proposals Open For Open Mainframe Summit, Philadelphia | Donna Hudi - TFiR - For DevOps, Developers & SREs
16:11 MinceR; just start a new alternate universe for every time travel event
16:11 MinceR; just start a new alternate universe for every time travel event
16:11 DaemonFC; That's what Future Man does.
16:11 DaemonFC; That's what Future Man does.
16:11 TR News; "We dont need to talk about NFTs but on a serious note I think Blockchain is overhyped." https://www.idgconnect.com/article/3659889/cto-sessions-victor-palau-ebury.html
16:11 TR News; "We dont need to talk about NFTs but on a serious note I think Blockchain is overhyped." https://www.idgconnect.com/article/3659889/cto-sessions-victor-palau-ebury.html
16:11 TR Bot; CTO Sessions: Victor Palau, Ebury | IDG Connect
16:11 TR Bot; CTO Sessions: Victor Palau, Ebury | IDG Connect
16:12 DaemonFC; Fudderman accidentally creates thousands of tangent universes including one where Osama bin Laden gets his time machine.
16:12 DaemonFC; Fudderman accidentally creates thousands of tangent universes including one where Osama bin Laden gets his time machine.
16:12 MinceR; :)
16:12 MinceR; :)
16:13 TR News; ICBM expanding proprietary software alliance https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-05-11-IBM-Transforms-Business-Operations-with-the-RISE-with-SAP-Solution-in-Expanded-Partnership-with-SAP
16:13 TR News; ICBM expanding proprietary software alliance https://newsroom.ibm.com/2022-05-11-IBM-Transforms-Business-Operations-with-the-RISE-with-SAP-Solution-in-Expanded-Partnership-with-SAP
16:13 TR Bot; IBM Transforms Business Operations with the RISE with SAP Solution in Expanded Partnership with SAP
16:13 TR Bot; IBM Transforms Business Operations with the RISE with SAP Solution in Expanded Partnership with SAP
16:13 DaemonFC; He then gets punished on a reality TV show by a man named Susan for doing all of this.
16:13 DaemonFC; He then gets punished on a reality TV show by a man named Susan for doing all of this.
16:13 DaemonFC; And then Osama bin Laden rescues him from Susan.
16:13 DaemonFC; And then Osama bin Laden rescues him from Susan.
16:15 TR News; Fedora 36 Woos Developers With Desktop Overhaul, but Will It Please Linus? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33617
16:15 TR News; Fedora 36 Woos Developers With Desktop Overhaul, but Will It Please Linus? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33617
16:15 TR Bot; Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines
16:15 TR Bot; Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines
16:15 MinceR; "a very bad Susan indeed."
16:15 MinceR; "a very bad Susan indeed."
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16:20 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was driving around in the Buick last week and saw a guy hauling a boat into the gas station.
16:20 DaemonFC; MinceR, I was driving around in the Buick last week and saw a guy hauling a boat into the gas station.
16:20 DaemonFC; So I shouted "THERE IT IS!!!! THAT'S MY BOAT!".
16:20 DaemonFC; So I shouted "THERE IT IS!!!! THAT'S MY BOAT!".
16:21 DaemonFC; (GTA V....Michael)
16:21 DaemonFC; (GTA V....Michael)
16:21 DaemonFC; I randomly quote him and Trevor Philips while I'm driving.
16:21 DaemonFC; I randomly quote him and Trevor Philips while I'm driving.
16:21 DaemonFC; "THIS IS A FINE AUTOMOBILE!"
16:21 DaemonFC; "THIS IS A FINE AUTOMOBILE!"
16:22 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc
16:22 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc
16:22 DaemonFC; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc
16:22 TR Bot; https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4ubQWiIfGNc
16:23 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | GTA 5 - The Best of Trevor - Invidious
16:23 TR Bot; invidious.snopyta.org | GTA 5 - The Best of Trevor - Invidious
16:23 DaemonFC; There is no best of Trevor. Everything is the best of Trevor.
16:23 DaemonFC; There is no best of Trevor. Everything is the best of Trevor.
16:24 MinceR; everyone loves Magical Trevor because the tricks that he does are ever so clever.
16:24 MinceR; everyone loves Magical Trevor because the tricks that he does are ever so clever.
16:25 TR News; 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It https://tedium.co/2022/05/11/ipod-failed-competitors-history/ "Some say it was overdue, some lament that it remains a missed opportunity, but the truth of the matter is, the iPod has left us, after years of neglect."
16:25 TR News; 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It https://tedium.co/2022/05/11/ipod-failed-competitors-history/ "Some say it was overdue, some lament that it remains a missed opportunity, but the truth of the matter is, the iPod has left us, after years of neglect."
16:25 TR Bot; 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It
16:25 TR Bot; 10 iPod Competitors That Didnt Make It
16:26 TR News; Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/top-new-features-red-hat-enterprise-linux-86
16:26 TR News; Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/top-new-features-red-hat-enterprise-linux-86
16:26 TR Bot; Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6
16:26 TR Bot; Top new features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6
16:28 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050328
16:28 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/22050328
16:28 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/2a5qz99hvhw81.jpg created on 2022-05-03 08:13:11.185002
16:28 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/2a5qz99hvhw81.jpg created on 2022-05-03 08:13:11.185002
16:29 TR News; Steam snap now available for Linux gamers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164287#comment-33618 Source: betanews
16:29 TR News; Steam snap now available for Linux gamers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164287#comment-33618 Source: betanews
16:29 TR Bot; Steam is Now on the Snap Store And You Can Help Test It | Tux Machines
16:29 TR Bot; Steam is Now on the Snap Store And You Can Help Test It | Tux Machines
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16:30 TR News; Rocky Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/11/rocky-linux-developer-ciq-raises-26m-to-recreate-centos-for-enterprises/ Source: venturebeat
16:30 TR News; Rocky Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/11/rocky-linux-developer-ciq-raises-26m-to-recreate-centos-for-enterprises/ Source: venturebeat
16:30 TR Bot; Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat
16:30 TR Bot; Linux developer CIQ raises $26M to recreate CentOS for enterprises | VentureBeat
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16:34 TR News; $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make Another CentOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164729
16:34 TR News; $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make Another CentOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164729
16:34 TR Bot; $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make 'Another' CentOS | Tux Machines
16:34 TR Bot; $26 Million for Gregory Kurtzer to Make 'Another' CentOS | Tux Machines
16:35 TR News; "Qt 5.15.4 release is a patch release made on the top of Qt 5.15.3. As a patch release, Qt 5.15.4 does not add any new functionality but provides bug fixes and other improvements." https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtreleasenotes.git/about/qt/5.15.4/release-note.md Qt as Free software
16:35 TR News; "Qt 5.15.4 release is a patch release made on the top of Qt 5.15.3. As a patch release, Qt 5.15.4 does not add any new functionality but provides bug fixes and other improvements." https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtreleasenotes.git/about/qt/5.15.4/release-note.md Qt as Free software
16:35 TR Bot; qt/qtreleasenotes.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
16:35 TR Bot; qt/qtreleasenotes.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
16:35 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164730
16:35 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164730
16:35 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:35 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
16:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164731
16:36 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164731
16:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:36 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
16:38 TR News; Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/05/11/debian-9-soon-out-of-free-security-support/
16:38 TR News; Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support https://raphaelhertzog.com/2022/05/11/debian-9-soon-out-of-free-security-support/
16:38 TR Bot; Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support
16:38 TR Bot; Debian 9 soon out of (free) security support
16:39 XRevan86; Apparently the weather actually was bad. Oh well.
16:39 XRevan86; Apparently the weather actually was bad. Oh well.
16:40 activelow; hitting 30C beginning of may.. in germany
16:40 activelow; hitting 30C beginning of may.. in germany
16:41 activelow; this is close to a 10C temperature anomaly; not 1.5C or similar the propaganda witches agitate for on TV
16:41 activelow; this is close to a 10C temperature anomaly; not 1.5C or similar the propaganda witches agitate for on TV
16:42 activelow; they imply, 1.5C anomaly weren't hit yet... when instead we are at 10C heatup already
16:42 activelow; they imply, 1.5C anomaly weren't hit yet... when instead we are at 10C heatup already
16:42 activelow; furthermore, it isn't a long-term effect, if economy cools down temperatures drop almost instantly (during corona)
16:42 activelow; furthermore, it isn't a long-term effect, if economy cools down temperatures drop almost instantly (during corona)
16:43 activelow; and since the "lockdown" ended, temperatures skyrocket again
16:43 activelow; and since the "lockdown" ended, temperatures skyrocket again
16:43 activelow; 10C above normal, not 1.5C
16:43 activelow; 10C above normal, not 1.5C
16:43 activelow; can't tell you, how much i hate them, those pseudo eco activists and their lies
16:43 activelow; can't tell you, how much i hate them, those pseudo eco activists and their lies
16:43 activelow; another lie of theirs is the implied argument, it was supposedly "germany" at fault
16:43 activelow; another lie of theirs is the implied argument, it was supposedly "germany" at fault
16:44 activelow; because, UN and similar institutions seek to re-distribute cash
16:44 activelow; because, UN and similar institutions seek to re-distribute cash
16:45 activelow; tied to carbon emission budgets, yet those budgets are not intended to cope with "climate change", it is both a cash grabbing taxation scam and redistribution-mechanism
16:45 activelow; tied to carbon emission budgets, yet those budgets are not intended to cope with "climate change", it is both a cash grabbing taxation scam and redistribution-mechanism
16:46 activelow; and within germany, it is mostly "west germany" and their demographics, which, whatever this is, isn't what i would recognize as german
16:46 activelow; and within germany, it is mostly "west germany" and their demographics, which, whatever this is, isn't what i would recognize as german
16:46 activelow; and it is them, the west, who cause 90% of emissions
16:46 activelow; and it is them, the west, who cause 90% of emissions
16:47 activelow; because east-germany already dismantled most of their industry after 1990, except for what could be looted and plundered by KPMG trust fund
16:47 activelow; because east-germany already dismantled most of their industry after 1990, except for what could be looted and plundered by KPMG trust fund
16:49 activelow; anyway, +10C temperature anomaly;
16:49 activelow; anyway, +10C temperature anomaly;
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.76
16:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 18.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.76
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17:24 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/uXLwPGj
17:24 MinceR; (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/uXLwPGj
17:24 TR Bot; cat - Album on Imgur
17:24 TR Bot; cat - Album on Imgur
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17:49 TR News; As long as they use software with NSA back doors (like Windows), they will never be safe https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-joins-partners-release-advisory-protecting-msps-and-their
17:49 TR News; As long as they use software with NSA back doors (like Windows), they will never be safe https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-joins-partners-release-advisory-protecting-msps-and-their
17:49 TR Bot; CISA Joins Partners to Release Advisory on Protecting MSPs and their Customers | CISA
17:49 TR Bot; CISA Joins Partners to Release Advisory on Protecting MSPs and their Customers | CISA
17:50 bnchs; lol "protecting"
17:50 bnchs; lol "protecting"
17:50 bnchs; that's like hiring security guards on a broken door
17:50 bnchs; that's like hiring security guards on a broken door
17:50 bnchs; fucking dumbasses
17:50 bnchs; fucking dumbasses
17:50 TR News; "MIPS is dead, right? Well, theres now very little done on the architecture itself, MIPS (the company) has decided to switch to RISC-V architecture, and unveiled the eVocore product lineup currently comprised of the eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/11/mips-unveils-risc-v-evocore-p8700-and-i8500-multiprocessor-ip-cores/
17:50 TR News; "MIPS is dead, right? Well, theres now very little done on the architecture itself, MIPS (the company) has decided to switch to RISC-V architecture, and unveiled the eVocore product lineup currently comprised of the eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/11/mips-unveils-risc-v-evocore-p8700-and-i8500-multiprocessor-ip-cores/
17:50 TR Bot; MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software
17:50 TR Bot; MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software
17:53 TR News; Sounds like proprietary snakeoil doing nonsense, protecting systems having already been breached, as they were outsourced to spy companies https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/11/zerto-product-updates/
17:53 TR News; Sounds like proprietary snakeoil doing nonsense, protecting systems having already been breached, as they were outsourced to spy companies https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/05/11/zerto-product-updates/
17:53 TR Bot; Zerto enhances ransomware recovery capabilities to address a wide range of data protection issues - Help Net Security
17:53 TR Bot; Zerto enhances ransomware recovery capabilities to address a wide range of data protection issues - Help Net Security
17:54 TR News; In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A https://internetfreedom.in/jua-sc-sedition/ Source: internetfreedom
17:54 TR News; In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A https://internetfreedom.in/jua-sc-sedition/ Source: internetfreedom
17:54 TR Bot; In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A
17:54 TR Bot; In a petition filed by the Journalist Union of Assam, Supreme Court directs governments to not use Section 124A
17:55 TR News; "After spending the night in the hostel in Narbonne, I checked my phone for connections to Barcelona. One suggestion was to go from Narbonne to Port-Bou which is just a few kilometers from the border, already in Spain and to continue from there" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-8-perpignan/
17:55 TR News; "After spending the night in the hostel in Narbonne, I checked my phone for connections to Barcelona. One suggestion was to go from Narbonne to Port-Bou which is just a few kilometers from the border, already in Spain and to continue from there" https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-8-perpignan/
17:55 TR Bot; Europe Trip Journal Entry 8: Perpignan vanitasvitae's blog
17:55 TR Bot; Europe Trip Journal Entry 8: Perpignan vanitasvitae's blog
17:56 TR News; [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220511022751.65540-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ Source: linux
17:56 TR News; [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220511022751.65540-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com/ Source: linux
17:56 TR Bot; [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov
17:56 TR Bot; [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling - Kirill A. Shutemov
17:57 TR News; Khadas VIM 4 SoC Linux Android mini PC first hands on look http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164578#comment-33620
17:57 TR News; Khadas VIM 4 SoC Linux Android mini PC first hands on look http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164578#comment-33620
17:57 TR Bot; Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks | Tux Machines
17:57 TR Bot; Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks | Tux Machines
18:03 TR News; "We decided to cut the release cycle short because of the several security vulnerabilities that were pointed out. See below for details. There are no new features added in this release." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/11/curl-7-83-1-it-burns/
18:03 TR News; "We decided to cut the release cycle short because of the several security vulnerabilities that were pointed out. See below for details. There are no new features added in this release." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/11/curl-7-83-1-it-burns/
18:03 TR Bot; 7.83.1 it burns | daniel.haxx.se
18:03 TR Bot; 7.83.1 it burns | daniel.haxx.se
18:04 TR News; "Pulseway recently revealed that they had improved functionality for endpoints using macOS and Linux to their RMM solution and deepened the integration to IT Glue. Enterprise Times had the opportunity to get more information about the update when it spoke to Andy Ellwood, VP of Product Marketing at Pulseway." https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/
18:04 TR News; "Pulseway recently revealed that they had improved functionality for endpoints using macOS and Linux to their RMM solution and deepened the integration to IT Glue. Enterprise Times had the opportunity to get more information about the update when it spoke to Andy Ellwood, VP of Product Marketing at Pulseway." https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/
18:04 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ )
18:04 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2022/05/11/pulseway-delivers-the-glue-for-mac-and-linux/ )
18:06 TR News; "Exir EMR is a new open-source EMR solution that aims to manage small clinics. [...]" but sadly a pile of Microsoft PROPRIETARY garbage at the back end, so it's not really "open" https://medevel.com/exir-emr/
18:06 TR News; "Exir EMR is a new open-source EMR solution that aims to manage small clinics. [...]" but sadly a pile of Microsoft PROPRIETARY garbage at the back end, so it's not really "open" https://medevel.com/exir-emr/
18:06 TR Bot; Exir EMR is an open-source clinical practice management system
18:06 TR Bot; Exir EMR is an open-source clinical practice management system
18:07 TR News; engine
18:07 TR News; engine
18:07 TR News; "qu3e is a compact, light-weight and fast 3D physics engine in C++. It is has been specifically created to be used in games." https://medevel.com/qu3e-engine/
18:07 TR News; "qu3e is a compact, light-weight and fast 3D physics engine in C++. It is has been specifically created to be used in games." https://medevel.com/qu3e-engine/
18:07 TR Bot; qu3e is an open-source 3D Physics engine
18:07 TR Bot; qu3e is an open-source 3D Physics engine
18:08 TR News; Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164732
18:08 TR News; Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164732
18:08 TR Bot; Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up | Tux Machines
18:08 TR Bot; Compact fanless firewall appliance offers 6x 2.5GbE ports for $230 and up | Tux Machines
18:09 TR News; "It is a self-hosted app which means you can download the code, and run it at your device or remote server." https://medevel.com/flow-habit-tracker/
18:09 TR News; "It is a self-hosted app which means you can download the code, and run it at your device or remote server." https://medevel.com/flow-habit-tracker/
18:09 TR Bot; Flow is an open-source task manager and habit tracker
18:09 TR Bot; Flow is an open-source task manager and habit tracker
18:10 TR News; "Macast application is released under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/macast/
18:10 TR News; "Macast application is released under the GPL-3.0 License." https://medevel.com/macast/
18:10 TR Bot; Macast is a mobile-ready DLNA media server
18:10 TR Bot; Macast is a mobile-ready DLNA media server
18:13 TR News; No, do not outsource your comms to Gulag. Doing it from the CLI does not make you a geek, you're still fooled and controlled by the US Empire https://opensource.com/article/22/5/gmailctl-linux-command-line-tool
18:13 TR News; No, do not outsource your comms to Gulag. Doing it from the CLI does not make you a geek, you're still fooled and controlled by the US Empire https://opensource.com/article/22/5/gmailctl-linux-command-line-tool
18:13 TR Bot; your Gmail filters from the Linux command line | Opensource.com
18:13 TR Bot; your Gmail filters from the Linux command line | Opensource.com
18:15 TR News; No, IBM is slavery, not freedom https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E6fYPpef19g
18:15 TR News; No, IBM is slavery, not freedom https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E6fYPpef19g
18:15 TR Bot; Fedora 36 overview | Welcome to Freedom. - Invidious
18:15 TR Bot; Fedora 36 overview | Welcome to Freedom. - Invidious
18:15 TR News; "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GuCLBzzmsoU Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
18:15 TR News; "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GuCLBzzmsoU Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
18:15 TR Bot; "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious
18:15 TR Bot; "Use case distros" mean Linux desktop needs more work! - Invidious
18:17 TR News; Clown computing = security breach, untrusted host. Intel, you get a zero or a one. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Project-Amber
18:17 TR News; Clown computing = security breach, untrusted host. Intel, you get a zero or a one. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Project-Amber
18:17 TR Bot; Announces "Project Amber" For Verifying The Trustworthiness Of Clouds - Phoronix
18:17 TR Bot; Announces "Project Amber" For Verifying The Trustworthiness Of Clouds - Phoronix
18:18 bnchs; lol
18:18 bnchs; lol
18:18 bnchs; "trustworthiness of clouds"
18:18 bnchs; "trustworthiness of clouds"
18:18 bnchs; as if you UNIRONICALLY PUT YOUR PRIVATE DATA IN A REMOTE SERVER
18:18 bnchs; as if you UNIRONICALLY PUT YOUR PRIVATE DATA IN A REMOTE SERVER
18:19 schestowitz-TR; trust intelk
18:19 schestowitz-TR; trust intelk
18:19 schestowitz-TR; the champion of security
18:19 schestowitz-TR; the champion of security
18:19 schestowitz-TR; totally not connected to the US regime!
18:19 schestowitz-TR; totally not connected to the US regime!
18:20 schestowitz-TR; The most deadly regime in human civilisation
18:20 schestowitz-TR; The most deadly regime in human civilisation
18:20 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164733
18:20 TR News; Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164733
18:20 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:20 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
18:20 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
18:20 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
18:20 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
18:20 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
18:26 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164734
18:26 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164734
18:26 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
18:26 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
18:26 psydruid; > [notice] www.cnx-software.com | MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software
18:26 psydruid; https://lwn.net/Articles/838807/
18:26 psydruid; > [notice] www.cnx-software.com | MIPS unveils RISC-V eVocore P8700 and I8500 multiprocessor IP cores - CNX Software
18:26 psydruid; https://lwn.net/Articles/838807/
18:26 TR Bot; future of 32-bit Linux [LWN.net]
18:26 TR Bot; future of 32-bit Linux [LWN.net]
18:27 TR News; Software: Hamza Musas Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164735
18:27 TR News; Software: Hamza Musas Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164735
18:27 TR Bot; Software: Hamza Musa's Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 | Tux Machines
18:27 TR Bot; Software: Hamza Musa's Glance at Some Projects and Rleease of curl 7.83.1 | Tux Machines
18:28 TR News; NSA et al would not simply advise people and businesses to abandon Microsoft software with NSA back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/microsoft-releases-may-2022-security-updates
18:28 TR News; NSA et al would not simply advise people and businesses to abandon Microsoft software with NSA back doors https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/microsoft-releases-may-2022-security-updates
18:28 TR Bot; Microsoft Releases May 2022 Security Updates | CISA
18:28 TR Bot; Microsoft Releases May 2022 Security Updates | CISA
18:29 TR News; About 70 Microsoft holes? So what... that's NOTHING. Love, CISA/NSA.
18:29 TR News; About 70 Microsoft holes? So what... that's NOTHING. Love, CISA/NSA.
18:33 TR News; Many groups are unrepresented in tech. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/
↺ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/
18:33 TR News; Many groups are unrepresented in tech. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/
↺ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-storytelling-approach-engaging-girls/
18:33 TR Bot; A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi
18:33 TR Bot; A storytelling approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Pilot study results - Raspberry Pi
18:34 TR News; Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164736
18:34 TR News; Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164736
18:34 TR Bot; Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree | Tux Machines
18:34 TR Bot; Videos/Shows: "Use Case Distros", Fedora 36 Overview, and Moree | Tux Machines
18:34 TR News; VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164737
18:34 TR News; VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164737
18:34 TR Bot; VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding | Tux Machines
18:34 TR Bot; VMWare GPL case: Linux Foundation reneged on Conservancy funding | Tux Machines
18:34 TR News; Proprietary F5 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-f5-big-ip-vulnerability-exploited-to-wipe-devices/
18:34 TR News; Proprietary F5 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/critical-f5-big-ip-vulnerability-exploited-to-wipe-devices/
18:34 TR Bot; Critical F5 BIG-IP vulnerability exploited to wipe devices
18:34 TR Bot; Critical F5 BIG-IP vulnerability exploited to wipe devices
18:36 TR News; A correct headline would have said CISA Adds Microsoft Windows Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog see http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_Windows
18:36 TR News; A correct headline would have said CISA Adds Microsoft Windows Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/11/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog see http://techrights.org/wiki/Call_Out_Windows
18:36 TR Bot; CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
18:36 TR Bot; CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
18:36 TR Bot; Call Out Windows - Techrights
18:36 TR Bot; Call Out Windows - Techrights
18:38 TR News; Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://access.redhat.com/announcements/6957288
18:38 TR News; Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 https://access.redhat.com/announcements/6957288
18:38 TR Bot; Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 - Red Hat Customer Portal
18:38 TR Bot; Announcing the GA release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 - Red Hat Customer Portal
18:39 TR News; Rust is not about security, it is about depending on Microsoft's proprietary malware delivery system, GitHub, controlled by the NSA https://lwn.net/Articles/894808/
18:39 TR News; Rust is not about security, it is about depending on Microsoft's proprietary malware delivery system, GitHub, controlled by the NSA https://lwn.net/Articles/894808/
18:39 TR Bot; malicious "rustdecimal" crate [LWN.net]
18:39 TR Bot; malicious "rustdecimal" crate [LWN.net]
18:40 TR News; RHEL 8.6: Whats new and #HowTo upgrade | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/11/rhel-86-whats-new-and-how-upgrade Source:< ICBM
18:40 TR News; RHEL 8.6: Whats new and #HowTo upgrade | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/11/rhel-86-whats-new-and-how-upgrade Source:< ICBM
18:40 TR Bot; RHEL 8.6: What's new and how to upgrade | Red Hat Developer
18:40 TR Bot; RHEL 8.6: What's new and how to upgrade | Red Hat Developer
18:41 TR News; IBM pushing "clown" instead of the real thing, server https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/catalyzing-ecosystem-co-creators-cloud
18:41 TR News; IBM pushing "clown" instead of the real thing, server https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/catalyzing-ecosystem-co-creators-cloud
18:41 TR Bot; Catalyzing an ecosystem of co-creators for the cloud
18:41 TR Bot; Catalyzing an ecosystem of co-creators for the cloud
18:41 TR News; Proprietary Debacles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164738
18:41 TR News; Proprietary Debacles Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164738
18:41 TR Bot; Proprietary Debacles | Tux Machines
18:41 TR Bot; Proprietary Debacles | Tux Machines
18:41 TR News; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164739
18:41 TR News; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164739
18:41 TR Bot; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements | Tux Machines
18:41 TR Bot; Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.6 Launches with New Features and Enhancements | Tux Machines
18:43 TR News; IBM targets suits to bypass geeks. Wright knows how to do that... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-cios-can-build-future-they-want-open-source
18:43 TR News; IBM targets suits to bypass geeks. Wright knows how to do that... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-cios-can-build-future-they-want-open-source
18:43 TR Bot; How CIOs can build the future they want with open source
18:43 TR Bot; How CIOs can build the future they want with open source
18:43 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, the "cloud" (like marketing term for a VPS) is good for only one thing, and that is hosting a website or a instance that is meant to be accessed publicly
18:43 bnchs; schestowitz-TR, the "cloud" (like marketing term for a VPS) is good for only one thing, and that is hosting a website or a instance that is meant to be accessed publicly
18:43 bnchs; anything else, you can invest in a physical machine
18:43 bnchs; anything else, you can invest in a physical machine
18:43 TR News; MusKSA seeking to destabilise USA Inc. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220510-elon-musk-says-he-would-lift-twitter-ban-on-trump
18:43 TR News; MusKSA seeking to destabilise USA Inc. https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220510-elon-musk-says-he-would-lift-twitter-ban-on-trump
18:43 TR Bot; Elon Musk says he would lift Twitter ban on Trump
18:43 TR Bot; Elon Musk says he would lift Twitter ban on Trump
18:44 TR News; VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/electronics/uncert-in-times-for-vpn-services-providers-in-india/articleshow/91454501.cms Source: economictimes
18:44 TR News; VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/electronics/uncert-in-times-for-vpn-services-providers-in-india/articleshow/91454501.cms Source: economictimes
18:44 TR Bot; VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times
18:44 TR Bot; VPN Services: UnCERT-in times for VPN services providers in India - The Economic Times
18:45 TR News; Microsoft Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/ice-is-a-domestic-surveillance-agency.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
18:45 TR News; Microsoft Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/05/ice-is-a-domestic-surveillance-agency.html see http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
18:45 TR Bot; Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency - Schneier on Security
18:45 TR Bot; Is a Domestic Surveillance Agency - Schneier on Security
18:45 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
18:45 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
18:47 TR News; If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter you are helping MusKSA (people who behead women and chop, then cook journalists). Coming next: releasing a criminal who incites other criminals to attack US government buildings.
18:47 TR News; If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter you are helping MusKSA (people who behead women and chop, then cook journalists). Coming next: releasing a criminal who incites other criminals to attack US government buildings.
18:49 TR News; CloudReady 86.4.86 18:12 from Neverware is out https://www.neverware.com/
18:49 TR News; CloudReady 86.4.86 18:12 from Neverware is out https://www.neverware.com/
18:49 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neverware
18:49 -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neverware
18:50 TR News; Twitter isn't a social network, it's a crime network. It helps Jeffrey Epstein's network. It's also foreign owner and serves to further destabilise the US and -- by extension -- the world. Twitter has NO SJWs because IF they STILL post in Twitter, they actively ATTACK social justice. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
18:50 TR News; Twitter isn't a social network, it's a crime network. It helps Jeffrey Epstein's network. It's also foreign owner and serves to further destabilise the US and -- by extension -- the world. Twitter has NO SJWs because IF they STILL post in Twitter, they actively ATTACK social justice. http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/
18:50 TR Bot; Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
18:50 TR Bot; Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights
18:51 TR News; If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter, you are part of the problem. Yes, you too, EFF and FSF (the FSF already admitted you need proprietary software to use Twitter; since 1.5 years ago).
18:51 TR News; If you are STILL posting ANYTHING in Twitter, you are part of the problem. Yes, you too, EFF and FSF (the FSF already admitted you need proprietary software to use Twitter; since 1.5 years ago).
18:54 TR News; Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors Ultifi vehicle operating system https://thestack.technology/red-hat-linux-vehicle-operating-system-general-motors/ Source: thestack
18:54 TR News; Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors Ultifi vehicle operating system https://thestack.technology/red-hat-linux-vehicle-operating-system-general-motors/ Source: thestack
18:54 TR Bot; Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors' Ultifi vehicle operating system
18:54 TR Bot; Red Hat Linux to drive General Motors' Ultifi vehicle operating system
18:56 TR News; iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740
18:56 TR News; iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164740
18:56 TR Bot; iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines
18:56 TR Bot; iXsystems releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Tux Machines
18:57 TR News; Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-restoring-ftcs-authority-to-return-money-to-ripped-off-consumers/ Source: publicknowledge
18:57 TR News; Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-restoring-ftcs-authority-to-return-money-to-ripped-off-consumers/ Source: publicknowledge
18:57 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge
18:57 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Restoring FTCs Authority To Return Money to Ripped Off Consumers - Public Knowledge
18:58 TR News; "The EEOC specifically outlines questions relating to an applicant's disability that cannot be asked before a job offer is made, such as: Do you have any mental or physical disabilities? Do you take prescription drugs? Have you ever filed a workers compensation claim?" https://www.fosslife.org/questions-job-interviewers-are-not-allowed-ask
18:58 TR News; "The EEOC specifically outlines questions relating to an applicant's disability that cannot be asked before a job offer is made, such as: Do you have any mental or physical disabilities? Do you take prescription drugs? Have you ever filed a workers compensation claim?" https://www.fosslife.org/questions-job-interviewers-are-not-allowed-ask
18:58 TR Bot; Questions Job Interviewers Are Not Allowed to Ask
18:58 TR Bot; Questions Job Interviewers Are Not Allowed to Ask
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 537.98
18:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 9.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 537.98
18:59 TR News; Simon Bisson is scattering Microsoft propaganda under headlines with the word "Linux" on them. IDG isn't a news site. It's a Microsoft operatives' network/hive.
18:59 TR News; Simon Bisson is scattering Microsoft propaganda under headlines with the word "Linux" on them. IDG isn't a news site. It's a Microsoft operatives' network/hive.
19:01 TR News; Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf/brian-behlendorf-testifies-open-source-software-security/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/
19:01 TR News; Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lf/brian-behlendorf-testifies-open-source-software-security/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/
19:01 TR Bot; Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology - Linux Foundation
19:01 TR Bot; Brian Behlendorf Testifies on Open Source Software Security to the US House Committee on Science and Technology - Linux Foundation
19:01 TR Bot; White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on Open Source Security | Techrights
19:01 TR Bot; White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on Open Source Security | Techrights
19:02 TR News; IDG redefines "backdoor"; it's not when Microsoft puts back doors there for US spy agencies but when a system gets breached for some reason and then the intruder installs something https://www.csoonline.com/article/3659802/stealthy-linux-implant-bpfdoor-compromised-organizations-globally-for-years.html
19:02 TR News; IDG redefines "backdoor"; it's not when Microsoft puts back doors there for US spy agencies but when a system gets breached for some reason and then the intruder installs something https://www.csoonline.com/article/3659802/stealthy-linux-implant-bpfdoor-compromised-organizations-globally-for-years.html
19:02 TR Bot; Stealthy Linux implant BPFdoor compromised organizations globally for years | CSO Online
19:02 TR Bot; Stealthy Linux implant BPFdoor compromised organizations globally for years | CSO Online
19:06 TR News; I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno https://peppe8o.com/i2c-based-oled-132x64-interfaced-with-arduino-uno/ Source: peppe8o
19:06 TR News; I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno https://peppe8o.com/i2c-based-oled-132x64-interfaced-with-arduino-uno/ Source: peppe8o
19:06 TR Bot; I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno
19:06 TR Bot; I2C based OLED (132X64) Interfaced with Arduino Uno
19:06 TR News; This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/11/this-special-front-door-controller-has-several-ways-to-unlock-it/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
19:06 TR News; This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/11/this-special-front-door-controller-has-several-ways-to-unlock-it/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
19:06 TR Bot; This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog
19:06 TR Bot; This special front door controller has several ways to unlock it | Arduino Blog
19:07 TR News; Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164741
19:07 TR News; Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164741
19:07 TR Bot; Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux | Tux Machines
19:07 TR Bot; Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt Against Linux | Tux Machines
19:08 TR News; Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164742
19:08 TR News; Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164742
19:08 TR Bot; Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller | Tux Machines
19:08 TR Bot; Arduino Uno and Arduino for Door Controller | Tux Machines
19:11 TR News; Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS!!! What on Earth is going on?
19:11 TR News; Canonical is ONCE again promoting WINDOWS!!! What on Earth is going on?
19:13 TR News; Years ago Steven Vaughan-Nichols became not a journalist but a stenographer fore sponsors
19:13 TR News; Years ago Steven Vaughan-Nichols became not a journalist but a stenographer fore sponsors
19:14 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164743
19:14 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164743
19:14 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:14 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:15 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164744
19:15 TR News; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164744
19:15 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
19:15 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
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19:32 TR News; Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/
19:32 TR News; Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/ixsystems-releases-truenas-13-0/
19:32 TR Bot; Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights
19:32 TR Bot; Links 11/05/2022: Rocky Linu Gets a Lot of Money and iXsystems Releases TrueNAS 13.0 | Techrights
19:34 TR News; It looks like SPAMnil is now buying youtube 'views', but it's hard to prove.
19:34 TR News; It looks like SPAMnil is now buying youtube 'views', but it's hard to prove.
19:34 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164745
19:34 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164745
19:34 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:34 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
19:34 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164746
19:34 TR News; Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164746
19:34 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
19:34 TR Bot; today's leftovers | Tux Machines
19:41 TR News; My Favorite Modules: Errno http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/05/my-favorite-modules-errno.html
19:41 TR News; My Favorite Modules: Errno http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/05/my-favorite-modules-errno.html
19:41 TR Bot; Favorite Modules: Errno | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
19:41 TR Bot; Favorite Modules: Errno | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
19:42 TR News; "Orange is a super lightweight open-source desktop search engine that allows you to search for and inside your local files and folders. Its compact tiny size because it is written using Tauri; a revolutionary Rust-based framework for building desktop using web technologies." https://medevel.com/orange-file-search/
19:42 TR News; "Orange is a super lightweight open-source desktop search engine that allows you to search for and inside your local files and folders. Its compact tiny size because it is written using Tauri; a revolutionary Rust-based framework for building desktop using web technologies." https://medevel.com/orange-file-search/
19:42 TR Bot; Orange is an open-source fast desktop search engine
19:42 TR Bot; Orange is an open-source fast desktop search engine
19:43 TR News; "Lios stands for "Linux-Intelligent-Ocr-Solution" which is an open-source, free OCR solution that converts any text in image, PDF into a readable text." https://medevel.com/lios-ocr/
19:43 TR News; "Lios stands for "Linux-Intelligent-Ocr-Solution" which is an open-source, free OCR solution that converts any text in image, PDF into a readable text." https://medevel.com/lios-ocr/
19:43 TR Bot; Lios is properly the best open-source Linux OCR
19:43 TR Bot; Lios is properly the best open-source Linux OCR
19:47 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/18120254
19:47 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/18120254
19:47 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wjjaqmzuk0021.jpg created on 2018-12-02 23:39:43.673242
19:47 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wjjaqmzuk0021.jpg created on 2018-12-02 23:39:43.673242
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20:17 MinceR; https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6
20:17 MinceR; https://blog.chriszacharias.com/a-conspiracy-to-kill-ie6
20:17 TR Bot; A Conspiracy To Kill IE6
20:17 TR Bot; A Conspiracy To Kill IE6
20:38 TR News; Docker Desktop for Linux Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717#comment-33624
20:38 TR News; Docker Desktop for Linux Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164717#comment-33624
20:38 TR Bot; Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines
20:38 TR Bot; Good News! Docker Desktop is Now Here for Linux Users | Tux Machines
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20:38 TR News; [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions https://reviews.llvm.org/D125319
20:38 TR News; [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions https://reviews.llvm.org/D125319
20:38 TR Bot; D125319 [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions
20:38 TR Bot; D125319 [AMDGPU] gfx11 BUF Instructions
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20:47 activelow; EU introduced legislation: all service providers (google, etc) _must_ scan _all_ user data for illegal material
20:47 activelow; EU introduced legislation: all service providers (google, etc) _must_ scan _all_ user data for illegal material
20:47 activelow; with the argument, to protect children... here we go again:
20:47 activelow; with the argument, to protect children... here we go again:
20:47 activelow; 1) child abuse almost always occurs among relatives, regardless of any internet activity
20:47 activelow; 1) child abuse almost always occurs among relatives, regardless of any internet activity
20:48 activelow; 2) if child abuse was the concern, then the social surroundings of children were subject to official intervention, regardless of any internet activity
20:48 activelow; 2) if child abuse was the concern, then the social surroundings of children were subject to official intervention, regardless of any internet activity
20:48 TR News; But KDB is 1) NOT a striker. 2) this is AWAY match. "24 - Kevin De Bruyne's hat-trick within 24 minutes is the third earliest scored from the start of a match in Premier League history, after Sadio Mane v Aston Villa in May 2015 (16 mins) and Dwight Yorke v Arsenal in February 2001 (22). Incredible."
20:48 TR News; But KDB is 1) NOT a striker. 2) this is AWAY match. "24 - Kevin De Bruyne's hat-trick within 24 minutes is the third earliest scored from the start of a match in Premier League history, after Sadio Mane v Aston Villa in May 2015 (16 mins) and Dwight Yorke v Arsenal in February 2001 (22). Incredible."
20:48 activelow; 3) spying on _all_ user data will probably be ineffective
20:48 activelow; 3) spying on _all_ user data will probably be ineffective
20:49 activelow; 4) spying on _all_ users including those who did not commit any crime is a most severe violation of constitutional rights
20:49 activelow; 4) spying on _all_ users including those who did not commit any crime is a most severe violation of constitutional rights
20:49 activelow; 5) spying for whatever cause is prone to abuse
20:49 activelow; 5) spying for whatever cause is prone to abuse
20:51 activelow; conclusion, the argument to justify spying is a invalid, if EU or any other bureaucratic entity intended to protect children, then first and foremost relatives and social surroundings of children must be taken care of, always
20:51 activelow; conclusion, the argument to justify spying is a invalid, if EU or any other bureaucratic entity intended to protect children, then first and foremost relatives and social surroundings of children must be taken care of, always
20:51 activelow; conclusion, the EU order google etc. must spy on _all_ user data probably shall serve other interests involved
20:51 activelow; conclusion, the EU order google etc. must spy on _all_ user data probably shall serve other interests involved
20:51 psydruid; maybe the EU wants to be forced to get dissolved
20:51 psydruid; maybe the EU wants to be forced to get dissolved
20:52 activelow; given the fact, EU is the most corrupt bureaucratic in history
20:52 activelow; given the fact, EU is the most corrupt bureaucratic in history
20:52 activelow; their lies and propaganda are excessive; and the recent EU order is a most severe violation of all constitutions of EU members
20:52 activelow; their lies and propaganda are excessive; and the recent EU order is a most severe violation of all constitutions of EU members
20:52 *activelow sharpens his knive
20:52 *activelow sharpens his knive
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20:53 activelow; baphometos will not spie on users
20:53 activelow; baphometos will not spie on users
20:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, A bullshitcoin "pegged to the dollar" fell to be worth less than 25 cents.
20:53 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, A bullshitcoin "pegged to the dollar" fell to be worth less than 25 cents.
20:53 DaemonFC; :)
20:53 DaemonFC; :)
20:53 schestowitz-TR; \what was it before?
20:53 schestowitz-TR; \what was it before?
20:54 schestowitz-TR; like peak?
20:54 schestowitz-TR; like peak?
20:54 DaemonFC; "Don't hold Dollars, HODL these!"
20:54 DaemonFC; "Don't hold Dollars, HODL these!"
20:54 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: no, it goes like this
20:54 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: no, it goes like this
20:54 DaemonFC; Well, if it's pegged 1:1 it can never be worth much more or less than $1 USD, however it's now 4 USTs to the Dollar.
20:54 DaemonFC; Well, if it's pegged 1:1 it can never be worth much more or less than $1 USD, however it's now 4 USTs to the Dollar.
20:54 schestowitz-TR; "DOLLARS SUCK!!"
20:54 schestowitz-TR; "DOLLARS SUCK!!"
20:54 schestowitz-TR; "GIVE ME DOLLARS!!!"
20:54 schestowitz-TR; "GIVE ME DOLLARS!!!"
20:54 bnchs; dollars suck
20:54 bnchs; dollars suck
20:54 schestowitz-TR; "I will give you THIS"
20:54 schestowitz-TR; "I will give you THIS"
20:54 DaemonFC; So really it's not pegged and people who thought it was just got pegged.
20:54 DaemonFC; So really it's not pegged and people who thought it was just got pegged.
20:54 bnchs; here's this fake coin
20:54 bnchs; here's this fake coin
20:55 schestowitz-TR; pay for IN DOLLARS for it
20:55 schestowitz-TR; pay for IN DOLLARS for it
20:55 DaemonFC; Yes, because you put $100 or whatever in and then the thing that's a "stablecoin" is only worth $25 now, so you lose $75 per $100 you "invested".
20:55 DaemonFC; Yes, because you put $100 or whatever in and then the thing that's a "stablecoin" is only worth $25 now, so you lose $75 per $100 you "invested".
20:55 DaemonFC; Be sure to report to the IRS what an idiot you are.
20:55 DaemonFC; Be sure to report to the IRS what an idiot you are.
20:57 DaemonFC; "Yeah, I bought 10,000 USTs on a cost basis of $10,000 and sold them for $2,500, lost $7,500, and would like to report one hell of a loss. I am also paying more so TurboTax will include one more form on my e-filing.".
20:57 DaemonFC; "Yeah, I bought 10,000 USTs on a cost basis of $10,000 and sold them for $2,500, lost $7,500, and would like to report one hell of a loss. I am also paying more so TurboTax will include one more form on my e-filing.".
20:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I sold some Treasuries and bought new ones.
20:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, I sold some Treasuries and bought new ones.
20:59 DaemonFC; The old ones weren't going to adjust to the now current rate for 6 more months, so it was more beneficial to sell them for 10 months worth of interest after holding them for 12 months and anticipate that inflation will continue to pick up and start racking up the 9.68% right away so they'll adjust when the inflation figure goes up again.
20:59 DaemonFC; The old ones weren't going to adjust to the now current rate for 6 more months, so it was more beneficial to sell them for 10 months worth of interest after holding them for 12 months and anticipate that inflation will continue to pick up and start racking up the 9.68% right away so they'll adjust when the inflation figure goes up again.
21:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 557.60
21:00 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 557.60
21:05 XRevan86; When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on.
21:05 XRevan86; When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on.
21:07 XRevan86; The outside-of-Russia perspective is going to be different as people outside won't have to live in the ruins that Putin will leave behind.
21:07 XRevan86; The outside-of-Russia perspective is going to be different as people outside won't have to live in the ruins that Putin will leave behind.
21:13 XRevan86; Ukraine has ruins left by Putin as well, and much more literal ones, but the future isn't as bleak for it.
21:13 XRevan86; Ukraine has ruins left by Putin as well, and much more literal ones, but the future isn't as bleak for it.
21:14 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on.
21:14 DaemonFC; <XRevan86> When I say that to me the future is bleak, I forget to mention one thing that the future holds: I really don't think that Putin is going to get away with it this time, Ukraine is the horse to bet on.
21:15 DaemonFC; Well, yeah. It costs the Russians $3-5 million per tank, and you can blow up the tank with a $200,000 missile. And we're GIVING them the missiles so we can sit back and go LULZ when they blow up all those $3-5 million Russian tanks.
21:15 DaemonFC; Well, yeah. It costs the Russians $3-5 million per tank, and you can blow up the tank with a $200,000 missile. And we're GIVING them the missiles so we can sit back and go LULZ when they blow up all those $3-5 million Russian tanks.
21:16 DaemonFC; Sometimes not even a $200,000 missile.
21:16 DaemonFC; Sometimes not even a $200,000 missile.
21:16 DaemonFC; Those switchblade drones don't cost much, but they can take out a tank, they can swoop down and blow up some Russian troops while they're sleeping, they can take out APCs...
21:16 DaemonFC; Those switchblade drones don't cost much, but they can take out a tank, they can swoop down and blow up some Russian troops while they're sleeping, they can take out APCs...
21:17 DaemonFC; If the Russians are stupid enough to dock one of their ships at port or be close to the shore, you can use suicide drones on those too.
21:17 DaemonFC; If the Russians are stupid enough to dock one of their ships at port or be close to the shore, you can use suicide drones on those too.
21:17 DaemonFC; You may not sink the ship, but you can do some damage.
21:17 DaemonFC; You may not sink the ship, but you can do some damage.
21:17 schestowitz-TR; ohoo
21:17 schestowitz-TR; ohoo
21:17 schestowitz-TR; stupid american[r]
21:17 schestowitz-TR; stupid american[r]
21:17 schestowitz-TR; until putin gets fed upo
21:17 schestowitz-TR; until putin gets fed upo
21:17 schestowitz-TR; and starts dropping nukes on nations
21:17 schestowitz-TR; and starts dropping nukes on nations
21:17 schestowitz-TR; and americans grab popcorn
21:17 schestowitz-TR; and americans grab popcorn
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and then nukes start falling on them too
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and then nukes start falling on them too
21:18 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's a very Usonian view on this, cost-effectiveness of the US investments :).
21:18 XRevan86; DaemonFC: That's a very Usonian view on this, cost-effectiveness of the US investments :).
21:18 schestowitz-TR; this us proxy war is insane
21:18 schestowitz-TR; this us proxy war is insane
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and biden feeds it
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and biden feeds it
21:18 DaemonFC; Yeah, the Russians are losing very badly.
21:18 DaemonFC; Yeah, the Russians are losing very badly.
21:18 schestowitz-TR; they have nukes
21:18 schestowitz-TR; they have nukes
21:18 DaemonFC; They haven't made any gains that are worth what they've lost.
21:18 DaemonFC; They haven't made any gains that are worth what they've lost.
21:18 schestowitz-TR; stop bragging
21:18 schestowitz-TR; stop bragging
21:18 DaemonFC; And they won't.
21:18 DaemonFC; And they won't.
21:18 schestowitz-TR; you just repeat propaganda lies
21:18 schestowitz-TR; you just repeat propaganda lies
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and corporate media jingoism
21:18 schestowitz-TR; and corporate media jingoism
21:19 schestowitz-TR; many ukraine citizens dioe
21:19 schestowitz-TR; many ukraine citizens dioe
21:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: Nuke-scaremongering is a Russian propaganda tactic.
21:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: Nuke-scaremongering is a Russian propaganda tactic.
21:19 schestowitz-TR; us uses them as cannon fodder
21:19 schestowitz-TR; us uses them as cannon fodder
21:19 schestowitz-TR; even leftists in ukraine say this
21:19 schestowitz-TR; even leftists in ukraine say this
21:19 schestowitz-TR; instead of working towards peace
21:19 schestowitz-TR; instead of working towards peace
21:19 schestowitz-TR; like lula (brazil) said
21:19 schestowitz-TR; like lula (brazil) said
21:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: But Putin didn't dare to mention nukes even once on May 9th.
21:19 XRevan86; schestowitz: But Putin didn't dare to mention nukes even once on May 9th.
21:19 schestowitz-TR; you need to end this war
21:19 schestowitz-TR; you need to end this war
21:19 schestowitz-TR; by all means possible
21:19 schestowitz-TR; by all means possible
21:19 DaemonFC; Propaganda? No. The Russians are so fucking dumb that they dig up a radioactive forest in Chernobyl that turns them inside out and then retreat back into Belarus to go to the hospital.
21:19 DaemonFC; Propaganda? No. The Russians are so fucking dumb that they dig up a radioactive forest in Chernobyl that turns them inside out and then retreat back into Belarus to go to the hospital.
21:19 DaemonFC; I mean talk about fucking DUMB.
21:19 DaemonFC; I mean talk about fucking DUMB.
21:19 schestowitz-TR; bbl
21:19 schestowitz-TR; bbl
21:19 schestowitz-TR; it's off topic anyway
21:19 schestowitz-TR; it's off topic anyway
21:20 DaemonFC; Let's dig a trench right next to the worst nuclear disaster in history that everyone knows about.
21:20 DaemonFC; Let's dig a trench right next to the worst nuclear disaster in history that everyone knows about.
21:20 XRevan86; schestowitz: "instead of working towards peace" <- I'm going to try to find you a response Putin gave to a proposition of peace negotiations.
21:20 XRevan86; schestowitz: "instead of working towards peace" <- I'm going to try to find you a response Putin gave to a proposition of peace negotiations.
21:20 DaemonFC; Herr derr
21:20 DaemonFC; Herr derr
21:21 DaemonFC; The Russians should not be allowed near anything that has the word "nuclear" in it.
21:21 DaemonFC; The Russians should not be allowed near anything that has the word "nuclear" in it.
21:21 DaemonFC; Every time they are, it ends badly.
21:21 DaemonFC; Every time they are, it ends badly.
21:21 schestowitz-TR; so what is the alternative, XRevan86?
21:21 schestowitz-TR; so what is the alternative, XRevan86?
21:21 schestowitz-TR; to "win" the war?
21:21 schestowitz-TR; to "win" the war?
21:21 schestowitz-TR; nobody wins awar
21:21 schestowitz-TR; nobody wins awar
21:21 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile tons of people die
21:21 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile tons of people die
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21:22 schestowitz-TR; with damages in the hundreds of billions to "p[roperty"
21:22 schestowitz-TR; with damages in the hundreds of billions to "p[roperty"
21:22 DaemonFC; There was almost a mutiny aboard the K-19 because so many of the crew were dying that they thought about defecting to a nearby American ship to be towed to port and offered medical assistance.
21:22 DaemonFC; There was almost a mutiny aboard the K-19 because so many of the crew were dying that they thought about defecting to a nearby American ship to be towed to port and offered medical assistance.
21:22 XRevan86; schestowitz: Putin's view on peace is surrender.
21:22 XRevan86; schestowitz: Putin's view on peace is surrender.
21:22 DaemonFC; And that wasn't even the only disaster on that particular ship.
21:22 DaemonFC; And that wasn't even the only disaster on that particular ship.
21:22 tux; K-19 ? is that covid in russian?
21:22 tux; K-19 ? is that covid in russian?
21:22 XRevan86; schestowitz: Unless Ukraine is willing to surrender, the war will continue.
21:22 XRevan86; schestowitz: Unless Ukraine is willing to surrender, the war will continue.
21:22 DaemonFC; It was a poorly-built Russian nuclear submarine.
21:22 DaemonFC; It was a poorly-built Russian nuclear submarine.
21:23 XRevan86; schestowitz: And they're not willing. Therefore
21:23 XRevan86; schestowitz: And they're not willing. Therefore
21:23 DaemonFC; The politicians sent it out without a shakedown to make a point to the United States that they had it.
21:23 DaemonFC; The politicians sent it out without a shakedown to make a point to the United States that they had it.
21:23 DaemonFC; And that was the first disaster in regards to that ship.
21:23 DaemonFC; And that was the first disaster in regards to that ship.
21:23 DaemonFC; It killed many people during its time in service and was said to be "cursed".
21:23 DaemonFC; It killed many people during its time in service and was said to be "cursed".
21:23 schestowitz-TR; US profits from it
21:23 schestowitz-TR; US profits from it
21:23 schestowitz-TR; no damage to itself
21:23 schestowitz-TR; no damage to itself
21:23 schestowitz-TR; just sales
21:23 schestowitz-TR; just sales
21:23 schestowitz-TR; and the us taxpayers gets poorer
21:23 schestowitz-TR; and the us taxpayers gets poorer
21:24 schestowitz-TR; and homeless
21:24 schestowitz-TR; and homeless
21:24 DaemonFC; The Russians always cut corners when it comes to nuclear safety and then they get a disaster, or multiple disasters.
21:24 DaemonFC; The Russians always cut corners when it comes to nuclear safety and then they get a disaster, or multiple disasters.
21:24 DaemonFC; They proved that they can't handle nuclear power because they're incompetent and cheap.
21:24 DaemonFC; They proved that they can't handle nuclear power because they're incompetent and cheap.
21:25 DaemonFC; And their government has a habit of simply classifying the design defects and punishing anyone who won't cooperate with the cover-up.
21:25 DaemonFC; And their government has a habit of simply classifying the design defects and punishing anyone who won't cooperate with the cover-up.
21:25 tux; its topdown incompetence
21:25 tux; its topdown incompetence
21:25 DaemonFC; The US nuclear incidents have tended to be mild because our stuff was designed to fail safe.
21:25 DaemonFC; The US nuclear incidents have tended to be mild because our stuff was designed to fail safe.
21:26 tux; i think the ukarainians mafe russia a favor killing off that many generals
21:26 tux; i think the ukarainians mafe russia a favor killing off that many generals
21:26 DaemonFC; If this happens, there are several reasons why it won't explode and spew out the core material.
21:26 DaemonFC; If this happens, there are several reasons why it won't explode and spew out the core material.
21:26 DaemonFC; That sort of thing.
21:26 DaemonFC; That sort of thing.
21:26 tux; then they had to get the only reall battel proven general from siria
21:26 tux; then they had to get the only reall battel proven general from siria
21:27 DaemonFC; The Russians were doing core dumps before it was cool.
21:27 DaemonFC; The Russians were doing core dumps before it was cool.
21:27 DaemonFC; (In fact, it was quite hot.)
21:27 DaemonFC; (In fact, it was quite hot.)
21:28 tux; russians are running linux mining rigs on their nuclear stations
21:28 tux; russians are running linux mining rigs on their nuclear stations
21:28 DaemonFC; People like Putin are good at hiding under their desks and getting a lot of other people killed.
21:28 DaemonFC; People like Putin are good at hiding under their desks and getting a lot of other people killed.
21:28 DaemonFC; Not much else.
21:28 DaemonFC; Not much else.
21:29 tux; donald trump learned alot from putin
21:29 tux; donald trump learned alot from putin
21:29 DaemonFC; The Iranians are resorting to Bitcoin Tulip Mania because of sanctions.
21:29 DaemonFC; The Iranians are resorting to Bitcoin Tulip Mania because of sanctions.
21:29 DaemonFC; As are the North Koreans.
21:29 DaemonFC; As are the North Koreans.
21:29 tux; putin is the best at fake news trump is only an apprentice
21:29 tux; putin is the best at fake news trump is only an apprentice
21:29 XRevan86; https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/lavrov-in-esclusiva-su-zona-bianca-russia-non-ha-mai-smesso-dialogo-per-evitare-guerra-mondiale_49548127-202202k.shtml Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergiey Lavrov: "Zelensky can bring peace if he stops giving criminal orders to his Nazi battalions and makes them stop fighting"
21:29 XRevan86; https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo/lavrov-in-esclusiva-su-zona-bianca-russia-non-ha-mai-smesso-dialogo-per-evitare-guerra-mondiale_49548127-202202k.shtml Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergiey Lavrov: "Zelensky can bring peace if he stops giving criminal orders to his Nazi battalions and makes them stop fighting"
21:29 TR Bot; Lavrov in esclusiva su "Zona Bianca": "Russia non ha mai smesso dialogo per evitare Guerra Mondiale"
21:29 TR Bot; Lavrov in esclusiva su "Zona Bianca": "Russia non ha mai smesso dialogo per evitare Guerra Mondiale"
21:30 DaemonFC; What's beginning to unfold in "stablecoins" which actually aren't stable at all, go figure, is the beginning of the end.
21:30 DaemonFC; What's beginning to unfold in "stablecoins" which actually aren't stable at all, go figure, is the beginning of the end.
21:30 XRevan86; That's from May 1st
21:30 XRevan86; That's from May 1st
21:30 DaemonFC; People lose confidence, they aren't backed by any sort of real economy.
21:30 DaemonFC; People lose confidence, they aren't backed by any sort of real economy.
21:30 XRevan86; schestowitz: Remove the fluff and read: "peace if they stop fighting".
21:30 XRevan86; schestowitz: Remove the fluff and read: "peace if they stop fighting".
21:30 DaemonFC; People realize that it's actually not so easy to hide from the Treasury and do illegal things with them, which is part of the "confidence" they had before.
21:30 DaemonFC; People realize that it's actually not so easy to hide from the Treasury and do illegal things with them, which is part of the "confidence" they had before.
21:30 tux; DaemonFC is another fake news believer
21:30 tux; DaemonFC is another fake news believer
21:30 DaemonFC; So they will lose all or most of their value.
21:30 DaemonFC; So they will lose all or most of their value.
21:31 XRevan86; https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules what
21:31 XRevan86; https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules what
21:31 TR Bot; - NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules: NVIDIA Linux open GPU kernel module source
21:31 TR Bot; - NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules: NVIDIA Linux open GPU kernel module source
21:31 tux; this war will end once ukarania takes over russia
21:31 tux; this war will end once ukarania takes over russia
21:31 DaemonFC; Bitcoins have lost well over half their peak value in less than 8 months.
21:31 DaemonFC; Bitcoins have lost well over half their peak value in less than 8 months.
21:31 DaemonFC; How does that happen? Well, I'll tell you, simply, how that happens.
21:31 DaemonFC; How does that happen? Well, I'll tell you, simply, how that happens.
21:32 DaemonFC; They were fake and the only value that had was whatever those idiots like my sister-in-law agreed they had.
21:32 DaemonFC; They were fake and the only value that had was whatever those idiots like my sister-in-law agreed they had.
21:32 tux; bitcoins are geting harder to mine
21:32 tux; bitcoins are geting harder to mine
21:32 tux; thats why
21:32 tux; thats why
21:33 DaemonFC; That's part of it too, but there's also a blood bath in other "stable" coins that are slightly inflationary in nature, not deflationary.
21:33 DaemonFC; That's part of it too, but there's also a blood bath in other "stable" coins that are slightly inflationary in nature, not deflationary.
21:33 tux; nvidea isnt making as much selling minig powerhouses
21:33 tux; nvidea isnt making as much selling minig powerhouses
21:33 tux; so bitcoin drops
21:33 tux; so bitcoin drops
21:33 DaemonFC; Good.
21:33 DaemonFC; Good.
21:34 tux; bitcoin has been being backed by GFX cards companies
21:34 tux; bitcoin has been being backed by GFX cards companies
21:34 XRevan86; schestowitz: There is thought that the PRC explained to Putin that nuclear threats are not their kind of jam.
21:34 XRevan86; schestowitz: There is thought that the PRC explained to Putin that nuclear threats are not their kind of jam.
21:34 DaemonFC; The only things that I have heard about that Bitcoin was thought to be really handy for was.....drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion.
21:34 DaemonFC; The only things that I have heard about that Bitcoin was thought to be really handy for was.....drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion.
21:34 DaemonFC; So MARISOL deserves to lose everything.
21:34 DaemonFC; So MARISOL deserves to lose everything.
21:34 tux; but thats a secret so dont tell it out loud
21:34 tux; but thats a secret so dont tell it out loud
21:34 tux; who is marisol?
21:34 tux; who is marisol?
21:35 tux; drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. looks like a CSI episode
21:35 tux; drugs, child pornography, and tax evasion. looks like a CSI episode
21:35 DaemonFC; My sister-in-law, but humorously misspelled and in all caps because some cancer patient at her hospital left a very long review calling her incompetent and with no bedside manner.
21:35 DaemonFC; My sister-in-law, but humorously misspelled and in all caps because some cancer patient at her hospital left a very long review calling her incompetent and with no bedside manner.
21:35 DaemonFC; "I am beloved by all my patients! A legend in my own mind!"
21:35 DaemonFC; "I am beloved by all my patients! A legend in my own mind!"
21:36 DaemonFC; "I am important! I drive terrible German car! Rahahaahahaha!!!!"
21:36 DaemonFC; "I am important! I drive terrible German car! Rahahaahahaha!!!!"
21:36 *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
21:37 tux; who gives a shit about your personal shit?
21:37 tux; who gives a shit about your personal shit?
21:37 tux; get a shrink and talk about it with him
21:37 tux; get a shrink and talk about it with him
21:38 tux; or a priest or bartender
21:38 tux; or a priest or bartender
21:38 DaemonFC; I told my mom I named the Impala "Muffy". She asked why I call it that. I said, "In the James Bond movie, Goldeneye, he meets a contact living in Saint Petersburg who drives an old Lada that barely works that he has to start with by tapping the starter motor, and he says "It's an ugly little bitch, but it gets me where I need to go.". Bond asks, "Muffy?" because he sees a tattoo on the guy's butt cheek while he's trying to get the Lada to work,
21:38 DaemonFC; I told my mom I named the Impala "Muffy". She asked why I call it that. I said, "In the James Bond movie, Goldeneye, he meets a contact living in Saint Petersburg who drives an old Lada that barely works that he has to start with by tapping the starter motor, and he says "It's an ugly little bitch, but it gets me where I need to go.". Bond asks, "Muffy?" because he sees a tattoo on the guy's butt cheek while he's trying to get the Lada to work,
21:38 DaemonFC; and he says "Third wife.".
21:38 DaemonFC; and he says "Third wife.".
21:39 tux; Ignoring DaemonFC
21:39 tux; Ignoring DaemonFC
21:39 DaemonFC; My Buick will be out of the body shop in a couple days, and I drop "Muffy" off again to get some electrical and air conditioning problems sorted out.
21:39 DaemonFC; My Buick will be out of the body shop in a couple days, and I drop "Muffy" off again to get some electrical and air conditioning problems sorted out.
21:39 tux; fuck you and your bs
21:39 tux; fuck you and your bs
21:39 tux; stop spamming crap
21:39 tux; stop spamming crap
21:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR gets a kick out of "MARISOL".
21:39 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR gets a kick out of "MARISOL".
21:40 tux; fucking trump chatbots
21:40 tux; fucking trump chatbots
21:40 DaemonFC; Because she's sort of a code word for a vicious psychopath who defines their value solely by the accumulation of things, and ends up racking up enormous debts trying to impress other people, who don't matter.
21:40 DaemonFC; Because she's sort of a code word for a vicious psychopath who defines their value solely by the accumulation of things, and ends up racking up enormous debts trying to impress other people, who don't matter.
21:41 schestowitz-TR; tux: many people mute him
21:41 schestowitz-TR; tux: many people mute him
21:41 schestowitz-TR; he doesn't care
21:41 schestowitz-TR; he doesn't care
21:41 DaemonFC; I'm trying to make MARISOL a thing. Like "Karen".
21:41 DaemonFC; I'm trying to make MARISOL a thing. Like "Karen".
21:42 tux; i dont think its a real person
21:42 tux; i dont think its a real person
21:42 DaemonFC; She is.
21:42 DaemonFC; She is.
21:42 tux; its a spambotr
21:42 tux; its a spambotr
21:42 DaemonFC; Oh, me.
21:42 DaemonFC; Oh, me.
21:43 TR News; Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/
21:43 TR News; Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/canonical-boosting-windows/
21:43 TR Bot; Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights
21:43 TR Bot; Ubuntu (Canonical) Will Not Help Us Get Rid of Windows (Microsoft) | Techrights
21:43 DaemonFC; I was just stunned at the sheer level of waste going on in that house. You could run 6 households on a normal budget on the amount of money these two waste.
21:43 DaemonFC; I was just stunned at the sheer level of waste going on in that house. You could run 6 households on a normal budget on the amount of money these two waste.
21:43 DaemonFC; And they're not rich, they just rack up debt, get sued, and have to work 70 hour weeks for debt service.
21:43 DaemonFC; And they're not rich, they just rack up debt, get sued, and have to work 70 hour weeks for debt service.
21:44 DaemonFC; Then they brag about how much and how hard they work, like that's anything to be PROUD of. Why the fuck should you want to work so you can pour the effort directly into the toilet and have no time?
21:44 DaemonFC; Then they brag about how much and how hard they work, like that's anything to be PROUD of. Why the fuck should you want to work so you can pour the effort directly into the toilet and have no time?
21:45 tux; putin is running out of conventional weapons
21:45 tux; putin is running out of conventional weapons
21:45 DaemonFC; It's a psychological decompensation method to help truly hopeless people cope. "I work hard! I have things! I work so hard I don't enjoy the things. But I have things so I can enjoy them so I can work so hard I can't enjoy them!".
21:45 DaemonFC; It's a psychological decompensation method to help truly hopeless people cope. "I work hard! I have things! I work so hard I don't enjoy the things. But I have things so I can enjoy them so I can work so hard I can't enjoy them!".
21:45 DaemonFC; It's not logical. It does not follow.
21:45 DaemonFC; It's not logical. It does not follow.
21:46 DaemonFC; I was talking about temporal paradoxes with MinceR earlier. These people are just as bad.
21:46 DaemonFC; I was talking about temporal paradoxes with MinceR earlier. These people are just as bad.
21:46 DaemonFC; Working and having things are irreconcilable at a certain point.
21:46 DaemonFC; Working and having things are irreconcilable at a certain point.
21:47 DaemonFC; You have a sports car that dry rots in your garage, because you work seven days a week, and have no time to drive it.
21:47 DaemonFC; You have a sports car that dry rots in your garage, because you work seven days a week, and have no time to drive it.
21:47 DaemonFC; The unexamined life.
21:47 DaemonFC; The unexamined life.
21:48 DaemonFC; But this is how the rich want people to think they should live.
21:48 DaemonFC; But this is how the rich want people to think they should live.
21:48 DaemonFC; The last thing they want is people going "If we can stretch our budget by cutting spending, then we can work less and do more things we want to do, free of debt!".
21:48 DaemonFC; The last thing they want is people going "If we can stretch our budget by cutting spending, then we can work less and do more things we want to do, free of debt!".
21:49 TR News; KDB already added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England
21:49 TR News; KDB already added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England
21:49 TR Bot; List of players with the most goals in an association football game - Wikipedia
21:49 TR Bot; List of players with the most goals in an association football game - Wikipedia
21:50 TR News; AFAIK, nobody ever scored 5 goals in one AWAY PL match https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England
21:50 TR News; AFAIK, nobody ever scored 5 goals in one AWAY PL match https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_players_with_the_most_goals_in_an_association_football_game#England
21:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Is the queen back from her light duties so she can cost you an enormous amount of money to wave?
21:50 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Is the queen back from her light duties so she can cost you an enormous amount of money to wave?
21:52 tux; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1879016/ > MinceR
21:52 tux; https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1879016/ > MinceR
21:52 TR Bot; Mincemeat (2021) - IMDb
21:52 TR Bot; Mincemeat (2021) - IMDb
21:53 tux; MinceRatMeat
21:53 tux; MinceRatMeat
21:54 XRevan86; https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-open-kernel&num=1
21:54 XRevan86; https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-open-kernel&num=1
21:54 TR Bot; Transitioning To Official, Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Driver - Phoronix
21:54 TR Bot; Transitioning To Official, Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Driver - Phoronix
21:56 tux; NVIDIA finally toke linus finger off its ass
21:56 tux; NVIDIA finally toke linus finger off its ass
21:57 tux; that was joke
21:57 tux; that was joke
21:57 DaemonFC; " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support.
21:57 DaemonFC; " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support.
21:57 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
21:57 DaemonFC; MinceR, ^
21:57 tux; XRevan86 is gona throu the book at me
21:57 tux; XRevan86 is gona throu the book at me
21:57 XRevan86; Which past two decades I wonder.
21:57 XRevan86; Which past two decades I wonder.
21:58 DaemonFC; " Their user-space software is remaining closed-source but as of today they have formally opened up their Linux GPU kernel modules and will be maintaining it moving forward."
21:58 DaemonFC; " Their user-space software is remaining closed-source but as of today they have formally opened up their Linux GPU kernel modules and will be maintaining it moving forward."
21:58 DaemonFC; So there is no end-to-end usable open source driver stack and Microsoft Larabel is just shitposting again.
21:58 DaemonFC; So there is no end-to-end usable open source driver stack and Microsoft Larabel is just shitposting again.
21:59 XRevan86; DaemonFC: This is a significant move even if yet incomplete.
21:59 XRevan86; DaemonFC: This is a significant move even if yet incomplete.
21:59 TR News; "In this video, we are looking at Fedora 36." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tfEbpBkqhjI
21:59 TR News; "In this video, we are looking at Fedora 36." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tfEbpBkqhjI
21:59 TR Bot; Fedora 36 Run Through - Invidious
21:59 TR Bot; Fedora 36 Run Through - Invidious
21:59 tux; https://i.redd.it/b8dnk9lu33631.jpg
21:59 tux; https://i.redd.it/b8dnk9lu33631.jpg
22:00 XRevan86; I guess it's up to the nouveau folk to figure out just how useful this is.
22:00 XRevan86; I guess it's up to the nouveau folk to figure out just how useful this is.
22:00 DaemonFC; It's less of the stack that other people have to figure out through reverse engineering and get wrong.
22:00 DaemonFC; It's less of the stack that other people have to figure out through reverse engineering and get wrong.
22:00 DaemonFC; But you won't be able to run games and stuff on it.
22:00 DaemonFC; But you won't be able to run games and stuff on it.
22:00 mjg59_; XRevan86: Oh, having redistributable firmware for Turing and later is already a huge win for nouveau
22:00 mjg59_; XRevan86: Oh, having redistributable firmware for Turing and later is already a huge win for nouveau
22:00 XRevan86; mjg59_: Of course.
22:00 XRevan86; mjg59_: Of course.
22:01 XRevan86; mjg59_: What I mean is just how comparable it is to amdgpu.
22:01 XRevan86; mjg59_: What I mean is just how comparable it is to amdgpu.
22:01 XRevan86; potentially
22:01 XRevan86; potentially
22:01 mjg59_; It doesn't have a stable userland ABI
22:01 mjg59_; It doesn't have a stable userland ABI
22:01 DaemonFC; The win for the user is ripping out the Nvidia card or not buying one to begin with.
22:01 DaemonFC; The win for the user is ripping out the Nvidia card or not buying one to begin with.
22:01 DaemonFC; And using a real solution instead.
22:01 DaemonFC; And using a real solution instead.
22:01 mjg59_; So nouveau can't really just target this kernel driver
22:01 mjg59_; So nouveau can't really just target this kernel driver
22:01 mjg59_; And nor can the nouveau driver be modified to work with the closed userland driver
22:01 mjg59_; And nor can the nouveau driver be modified to work with the closed userland driver
22:01 XRevan86; mjg59_: Not *yet*.
22:01 XRevan86; mjg59_: Not *yet*.
22:01 TR News; FLOSS Weekly 680: Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware - Hector Martin, Linux on Macs https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/680
22:01 TR News; FLOSS Weekly 680: Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware - Hector Martin, Linux on Macs https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/680
22:01 TR Bot; Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware
22:01 TR Bot; Asahi Linux on M1 Hardware
22:01 DaemonFC; Maybe mjg59_ is fine with fucking crap that crashes the kernel and causes the keyboard to randomly be forgotten by libinput.
22:01 DaemonFC; Maybe mjg59_ is fine with fucking crap that crashes the kernel and causes the keyboard to randomly be forgotten by libinput.
22:01 DaemonFC; Who knows?
22:01 DaemonFC; Who knows?
22:02 mjg59_; Well, not until nvidia commit to providing a stable ABI
22:02 mjg59_; Well, not until nvidia commit to providing a stable ABI
22:02 TR News; "Hello and welcome to the 466th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-466-hamanon-3/
22:02 TR News; "Hello and welcome to the 466th installment of Linux in the Ham Shack." https://lhspodcast.info/2022/05/lhs-episode-466-hamanon-3/
22:02 TR Bot; LHS Episode #466: HamAnon | Linux in the Ham Shack
22:02 TR Bot; LHS Episode #466: HamAnon | Linux in the Ham Shack
22:02 mjg59_; DaemonFC: I own precisely 0 nvidia GPUs for a good reason
22:02 mjg59_; DaemonFC: I own precisely 0 nvidia GPUs for a good reason
22:02 DaemonFC; mjg59_, They have done absolutely nothing so far that makes me think that they are able or willing to write stable production-quality code like AMD or Intel provide.
22:02 DaemonFC; mjg59_, They have done absolutely nothing so far that makes me think that they are able or willing to write stable production-quality code like AMD or Intel provide.
22:03 TR News; "NVIDIA has announced its plans for an open-source GPU driver." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148537/linux-action-news-240/
22:03 TR News; "NVIDIA has announced its plans for an open-source GPU driver." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148537/linux-action-news-240/
22:03 mjg59_; Can you point to the bit where I said I thought this was good code?
22:03 mjg59_; Can you point to the bit where I said I thought this was good code?
22:03 TR Bot; Linux Action News 240 | Jupiter Broadcasting
22:03 TR Bot; Linux Action News 240 | Jupiter Broadcasting
22:03 mjg59_; Or are you just making things up again?
22:03 mjg59_; Or are you just making things up again?
22:03 DaemonFC; Well, easing the pain of using crap is not great, no.
22:03 DaemonFC; Well, easing the pain of using crap is not great, no.
22:03 DaemonFC; So you actually did imply that.
22:03 DaemonFC; So you actually did imply that.
22:03 DaemonFC; That's like Dr. Frank-N-Furter saying he'll cure some of the symptoms, but not the disease.
22:03 DaemonFC; That's like Dr. Frank-N-Furter saying he'll cure some of the symptoms, but not the disease.
22:03 TR News; Christian Schaller: Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/
22:03 TR News; Christian Schaller: Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2022/05/11/why-is-the-open-source-driver-release-from-nvidia-so-important-for-linux/
22:04 TR Bot; Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? | Christian F.K. Schaller
22:04 TR Bot; Why is the open source driver release from NVidia so important for Linux? | Christian F.K. Schaller
22:04 XRevan86; One simple concern I have about this is that NVIDIA's GPU have (had?) a blob check, how is that issue going to be addressed?
22:04 XRevan86; One simple concern I have about this is that NVIDIA's GPU have (had?) a blob check, how is that issue going to be addressed?
22:05 CrystalMath; any chance of CUDA with fully open source systems?
22:05 CrystalMath; any chance of CUDA with fully open source systems?
22:06 DaemonFC; Oh mjg59_ is a big fan of being locked out of the computer unless you use blessed binaries that can disable features and run malware.
22:06 DaemonFC; Oh mjg59_ is a big fan of being locked out of the computer unless you use blessed binaries that can disable features and run malware.
22:06 XRevan86; "an out of tree source code kernel driver which has been tested to support CUDA usecases on datacenter GPUs"
22:06 XRevan86; "an out of tree source code kernel driver which has been tested to support CUDA usecases on datacenter GPUs"
22:06 DaemonFC; So I'm sure NoVideo's signed firmware check is something he likes.
22:06 DaemonFC; So I'm sure NoVideo's signed firmware check is something he likes.
22:07 XRevan86; Sounds extremely relevant to this conversation.
22:07 XRevan86; Sounds extremely relevant to this conversation.
22:07 mjg59_; XRevan86: They verify the firmware, not the driver
22:07 mjg59_; XRevan86: They verify the firmware, not the driver
22:07 TR News; NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164747
22:07 TR News; NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164747
22:07 TR Bot; NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines
22:07 TR Bot; NVIDIA Finally Releases Open-Source Linux GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines
22:07 mjg59_; XRevan86: Previously it was possible to extract the firmware from nvidia's closed driver, but nvidia refused permission to redistribute it
22:07 mjg59_; XRevan86: Previously it was possible to extract the firmware from nvidia's closed driver, but nvidia refused permission to redistribute it
22:07 DaemonFC; So it was something you could provide a script for and have the user do.
22:07 DaemonFC; So it was something you could provide a script for and have the user do.
22:08 DaemonFC; I've been there before, with another infamously crap company. Broadcom.
22:08 DaemonFC; I've been there before, with another infamously crap company. Broadcom.
22:08 DaemonFC; They were a bunch of fucking jerks too, like Nvidia.
22:08 DaemonFC; They were a bunch of fucking jerks too, like Nvidia.
22:08 DaemonFC; Again, avoid if possible.
22:08 DaemonFC; Again, avoid if possible.
22:09 DaemonFC; Unless a free laptop that just happened to have an Nvidia GPU in it landed in my lap from a contest or something, I would not even attempt to use it, or buy one.
22:09 DaemonFC; Unless a free laptop that just happened to have an Nvidia GPU in it landed in my lap from a contest or something, I would not even attempt to use it, or buy one.
22:09 XRevan86; mjg59_: Ah.
22:09 DaemonFC; The only reason I ever had an iPod was because I got one in a contest on the radio and libimobiledevice happened to send MP3 files to it.
22:09 XRevan86; mjg59_: Ah.
22:09 DaemonFC; The only reason I ever had an iPod was because I got one in a contest on the radio and libimobiledevice happened to send MP3 files to it.
22:11 TR News; NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748
22:11 TR News; NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164748
22:11 TR Bot; NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines
22:11 TR Bot; NVIDIA Releases Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules | Tux Machines
22:11 XRevan86; mjg59_: "the Nouveau specific firmware that NVidia currently releases" <- Does that mean that the problem has been already solved, and I simply never got the news?
22:11 XRevan86; mjg59_: "the Nouveau specific firmware that NVidia currently releases" <- Does that mean that the problem has been already solved, and I simply never got the news?
22:13 DaemonFC; It's crazy to buy shit from Apple or Nvidia and expect that it's going to work when they've never been anything but antagonistic and hostile to their users, and especially to people trying to use it with Free Software.
22:13 DaemonFC; It's crazy to buy shit from Apple or Nvidia and expect that it's going to work when they've never been anything but antagonistic and hostile to their users, and especially to people trying to use it with Free Software.
22:14 TR News; IDG and ZDNet are infested with Microsoft moles disguised as "journalists". Is SPAM the new "news"?
22:14 TR News; IDG and ZDNet are infested with Microsoft moles disguised as "journalists". Is SPAM the new "news"?
22:14 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164749
22:14 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164749
22:14 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit | Tux Machines
22:14 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows/Videos: Linux Action News, Linux in the Ham Shack, FLOSS Weekly 680, Fedora 36, and Red Hat Summit | Tux Machines
22:14 DaemonFC; "I asked about FreeBSD support given NVIDIA's long-present BSD support with their proprietary driver and whether this open-sourced code was portable enough to work on any of the BSDs. I was simply told that for R515, it's Linux-only."
22:14 DaemonFC; "I asked about FreeBSD support given NVIDIA's long-present BSD support with their proprietary driver and whether this open-sourced code was portable enough to work on any of the BSDs. I was simply told that for R515, it's Linux-only."
22:14 DaemonFC; LOL
22:14 DaemonFC; LOL
22:15 DaemonFC; And of course they'll obfuscate the "open source" driver so to anyone without inside information it's incoherent, indecipherable, and gibberish.
22:15 DaemonFC; And of course they'll obfuscate the "open source" driver so to anyone without inside information it's incoherent, indecipherable, and gibberish.
22:15 DaemonFC; They don't even have to rip a page out of a playbook for that, because it's their playbook.
22:15 DaemonFC; They don't even have to rip a page out of a playbook for that, because it's their playbook.
22:15 mjg59_; It still references internal Jira tickets, I don't see any attempt to obfuscate it
22:15 mjg59_; It still references internal Jira tickets, I don't see any attempt to obfuscate it
22:16 DaemonFC; You'll be lucky if it's "only" undocumented and has no comments.
22:16 DaemonFC; You'll be lucky if it's "only" undocumented and has no comments.
22:16 DaemonFC; If you're really unlucky, they'll run it through a preprocessor too, and in hex.
22:16 DaemonFC; If you're really unlucky, they'll run it through a preprocessor too, and in hex.
22:16 DaemonFC; Like "NV",
22:16 DaemonFC; Like "NV",
22:16 mjg59_; It has comments
22:16 mjg59_; It has comments
22:16 DaemonFC; They just want a broken unusable stub that is only good for foisting their blob on you.
22:16 DaemonFC; They just want a broken unusable stub that is only good for foisting their blob on you.
22:17 mjg59_; It's really not hard to look at the code
22:17 mjg59_; It's really not hard to look at the code
22:17 DaemonFC; Until you do that, you have basic video so you can get around to installing the blob.
22:17 DaemonFC; Until you do that, you have basic video so you can get around to installing the blob.
22:17 mjg59_; XRevan86: My understanding is that that was only the firmware required for hardware init, not for stuff like reclocking (otherwise the GPU just runs at the slowest clock)
22:17 mjg59_; XRevan86: My understanding is that that was only the firmware required for hardware init, not for stuff like reclocking (otherwise the GPU just runs at the slowest clock)
22:17 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164750
22:17 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164750
22:17 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:17 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
22:18 DaemonFC; Running at the slowest clock speed is the safest choice if you figure that your hardware will be unsuitable for anything but basic video on the way to installing malware blobs.
22:18 DaemonFC; Running at the slowest clock speed is the safest choice if you figure that your hardware will be unsuitable for anything but basic video on the way to installing malware blobs.
22:18 DaemonFC; At least that way the complete piece of shit shouldn't overheat.
22:18 DaemonFC; At least that way the complete piece of shit shouldn't overheat.
22:18 XRevan86; mjg59_: Very helpful of them.
22:18 XRevan86; mjg59_: Very helpful of them.
22:20 DaemonFC; There's a reason why things are designed the way they are. BMW designs their coolant systems to fail after about 7 years so the engine blows up and is financially impossible to justify fixing because it's so warped.
22:20 DaemonFC; There's a reason why things are designed the way they are. BMW designs their coolant systems to fail after about 7 years so the engine blows up and is financially impossible to justify fixing because it's so warped.
22:20 DaemonFC; Nvidia designs their "open source" stuff to be completely sabotaged as a form of soft fascism to steer people towards the blob.
22:20 DaemonFC; Nvidia designs their "open source" stuff to be completely sabotaged as a form of soft fascism to steer people towards the blob.
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22:32 TR News; Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-2022-python-language-summit_01678898482.html Source: pyfound
22:32 TR News; Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-2022-python-language-summit_01678898482.html Source: pyfound
22:32 TR Bot; Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit
22:32 TR Bot; Python Software Foundation News: The 2022 Python Language Summit
22:33 MinceR; 11 225712 < DaemonFC> " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support.
22:33 MinceR; 11 225712 < DaemonFC> " Over the past two decades NVIDIA has offered great Linux driver support with their proprietary driver stack" < I must be in the parallel universe where kernel panics and the computer randomly forgetting you have a keyboard means good Linux support.
22:33 MinceR; it's in line with what you can generally expect from the IT industry
22:33 MinceR; it's in line with what you can generally expect from the IT industry
22:34 DaemonFC; A generous helping of Engrish.
22:34 DaemonFC; A generous helping of Engrish.
22:35 TR News; A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164751
22:35 TR News; A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164751
22:35 TR Bot; A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL | Tux Machines
22:35 TR Bot; A Federal Hearing about Rights under GPL | Tux Machines
22:36 TR News; 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164752
22:36 TR News; 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164752
22:36 TR Bot; 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines
22:36 TR Bot; 7 Great New Features Coming To Thunderbird 102 | Tux Machines
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22:38 TR News; Gulags Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/ https://9to5google.com/2022/05/11/flutter-3-linux-macos-apps-dynamic-theme-material-you/
↺ https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/
22:38 TR News; Gulags Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/ https://9to5google.com/2022/05/11/flutter-3-linux-macos-apps-dynamic-theme-material-you/
↺ https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/11/googles-flutter-3-adds-support-for-macos-and-linux-desktop-apps/
22:38 TR Bot; Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps TechCrunch
22:38 TR Bot; Flutter 3 adds support for macOS and Linux desktop apps TechCrunch
22:38 TR Bot; 3 brings Linux and macOS apps, Material You, more - 9to5Google
22:38 TR Bot; 3 brings Linux and macOS apps, Material You, more - 9to5Google
22:39 TR News; Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164754
22:39 TR News; Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164754
22:39 TR Bot; Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant | Tux Machines
22:39 TR Bot; Ubuntu Unity 22.04 is a Linux desktop distribution thats as productive as it is elegant | Tux Machines
22:39 bnchs; MinceR, i have never used their nvidia proprietary drivers, because i never had nvidia
22:39 bnchs; MinceR, i have never used their nvidia proprietary drivers, because i never had nvidia
22:39 bnchs; but i'm pretty sure all the stability issues nvidia users report with linux is the driver's fault
22:39 bnchs; but i'm pretty sure all the stability issues nvidia users report with linux is the driver's fault
22:39 bnchs; so distributions have to blacklist the module
22:39 bnchs; so distributions have to blacklist the module
22:40 XRevan86; schestowitz: https://nitter.net/nexta_tv/status/1523588963075690497
22:40 XRevan86; schestowitz: https://nitter.net/nexta_tv/status/1523588963075690497
22:40 TR Bot; NEXTA (@nexta_tv): "Vladimir #Medinsky was asked if he would congratulate the #Ukrainian negotiating delegation on Victory Day. He replied: "Only after we have defeated them"." | nitter
22:40 TR Bot; NEXTA (@nexta_tv): "Vladimir #Medinsky was asked if he would congratulate the #Ukrainian negotiating delegation on Victory Day. He replied: "Only after we have defeated them"." | nitter
22:41 XRevan86; Vladimir Medinsky is head of the Russian delegation in negotiations with Ukraine.
22:41 XRevan86; Vladimir Medinsky is head of the Russian delegation in negotiations with Ukraine.
22:41 DaemonFC; On paper, anyway.
22:41 DaemonFC; On paper, anyway.
22:42 DaemonFC; Short of surrendering their entire country, it's unclear what the Russians are willing to negotiate with Ukraine.
22:42 DaemonFC; Short of surrendering their entire country, it's unclear what the Russians are willing to negotiate with Ukraine.
22:42 TR News; Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164755
22:42 TR News; Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164755
22:42 TR Bot; Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 | Tux Machines
22:42 TR Bot; Best Arch-based Linux Distros Of 2022 | Tux Machines
22:42 MinceR; bnchs: depends on what the user wants
22:42 MinceR; bnchs: depends on what the user wants
22:43 MinceR; i.e. fast graphics with all the bells and whistles and instability or possibly slower and/or less featureful graphics with possibly more stability
22:43 MinceR; i.e. fast graphics with all the bells and whistles and instability or possibly slower and/or less featureful graphics with possibly more stability
22:43 TR News; Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-cheers-senate-confirmation-of-alvaro-bedoya-as-ftc-commissioner/ Source: publicknowledge
22:43 TR News; Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-cheers-senate-confirmation-of-alvaro-bedoya-as-ftc-commissioner/ Source: publicknowledge
22:43 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge
22:43 TR Bot; Public Knowledge Cheers Senate Confirmation of Alvaro Bedoya As FTC Commissioner - Public Knowledge
22:43 MinceR; things like this make me glad i can afford to keep multiple laptops and thus separate concerns
22:43 MinceR; things like this make me glad i can afford to keep multiple laptops and thus separate concerns
22:43 TR News; "It is closer to Apache Lucene than to Elasticsearch or Apache Solr in the sense it is not an off-the-shelf search engine server, but rather a crate that can be used to build such a search engine." https://medevel.com/tantivy-search/
22:43 TR News; "It is closer to Apache Lucene than to Elasticsearch or Apache Solr in the sense it is not an off-the-shelf search engine server, but rather a crate that can be used to build such a search engine." https://medevel.com/tantivy-search/
22:43 TR Bot; Tantivy is a lightweight full-text search engine
22:43 TR Bot; Tantivy is a lightweight full-text search engine
22:44 TR News; Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update https://puri.sm/posts/improved-delivery-time-for-librem-5-usa-may-2022-update/
22:44 TR News; Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update https://puri.sm/posts/improved-delivery-time-for-librem-5-usa-may-2022-update/
22:44 TR Bot; Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update Purism
22:44 TR Bot; Improved Delivery Time for Librem 5 USA: May 2022 Update Purism
22:46 XRevan86; "instead of working towards peace" <- So that's just it, it's not the kind of war where it's even possible to do that.
22:46 XRevan86; "instead of working towards peace" <- So that's just it, it's not the kind of war where it's even possible to do that.
22:48 TR News; Canonical is promoting Windows now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33625
22:48 TR News; Canonical is promoting Windows now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164704#comment-33625
22:48 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:48 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:48 XRevan86; Because Russia invaded with a goal, that goal being a take-over of Ukraine, and it's not going away until it can get as close to it as possible.
22:48 XRevan86; Because Russia invaded with a goal, that goal being a take-over of Ukraine, and it's not going away until it can get as close to it as possible.
22:48 XRevan86; Though I guess "going away" is not the right choice of words.
22:48 XRevan86; Though I guess "going away" is not the right choice of words.
22:48 TR News; "At the station, I asked for a reservation for the train to Barcelona and they actually had some available. The train was punctual and the next chapter of my journey began without any problems." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-9-cable-cars/
22:48 TR News; "At the station, I asked for a reservation for the train to Barcelona and they actually had some available. The train was punctual and the next chapter of my journey began without any problems." https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/11/europe-trip-journal-entry-9-cable-cars/
22:48 TR Bot; Europe Trip Journal Entry 9: Cable Cars vanitasvitae's blog
22:48 TR Bot; Europe Trip Journal Entry 9: Cable Cars vanitasvitae's blog
22:48 TR News; xkcd: Selection Bias https://xkcd.com/2618/ Source: xkcd
22:48 TR News; xkcd: Selection Bias https://xkcd.com/2618/ Source: xkcd
22:48 TR Bot; Selection Bias
22:48 TR Bot; Selection Bias
22:49 TR News; US Begins Massive Crackdown On Sharing Sites - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NCynZjB3Yo4 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
22:49 TR News; US Begins Massive Crackdown On Sharing Sites - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NCynZjB3Yo4 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
22:49 TR Bot; US Begins Massive Crackdown On Piracy Sites - Invidious
22:49 TR Bot; US Begins Massive Crackdown On Piracy Sites - Invidious
22:51 activelow; interesting, reviewing further packages, since options are limited without gtk/x11.. fbida remains for framebuffer console
22:51 activelow; interesting, reviewing further packages, since options are limited without gtk/x11.. fbida remains for framebuffer console
22:51 activelow; here we go... it links against libdrm for no obvious reason
22:51 activelow; here we go... it links against libdrm for no obvious reason
22:52 activelow; and fbida is the last remaining utility to view images (without converting them to sixels)
22:52 activelow; and fbida is the last remaining utility to view images (without converting them to sixels)
22:52 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164756
22:52 TR News; Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164756
22:52 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:52 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:52 activelow; access to /dev/fb0 does not require libdrm, at least it should be optional
22:52 activelow; access to /dev/fb0 does not require libdrm, at least it should be optional
22:53 activelow; fbida is the last remaining wrongdoer... either i patch it to remove libdrm dependency, or i will convert all images to sixels
22:53 activelow; fbida is the last remaining wrongdoer... either i patch it to remove libdrm dependency, or i will convert all images to sixels
22:53 XRevan86; schestowitz: So even though the intentions of some actors are not entirely clear, whether they want peace (what kind of peace) or to win the war to the max, it is not actually a discussion: peace-talks don't exist per-se.
22:53 XRevan86; schestowitz: So even though the intentions of some actors are not entirely clear, whether they want peace (what kind of peace) or to win the war to the max, it is not actually a discussion: peace-talks don't exist per-se.
22:55 XRevan86; Russia calls for peace. #define peace surrender
22:55 XRevan86; Russia calls for peace. #define peace surrender
22:55 activelow; i suspect there is a sidechannel hidden somewhere, within in image libraries down to kernel drm direct-rendering-manager
22:55 activelow; i suspect there is a sidechannel hidden somewhere, within in image libraries down to kernel drm direct-rendering-manager
22:56 activelow; too i did cleanup w3m browser dependencies, which got sixel support, it doesn't need to link against any libdrm/imglib or whatever... image data is converted into sixels and rasterized into virtual terminal tty
22:56 activelow; too i did cleanup w3m browser dependencies, which got sixel support, it doesn't need to link against any libdrm/imglib or whatever... image data is converted into sixels and rasterized into virtual terminal tty
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22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.95
22:59 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 381.95
22:59 TR News; Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/
22:59 TR News; Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/11/nvidia-down-yours/
22:59 TR Bot; Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights
22:59 TR Bot; Links 11/05/2022: NVIDIA Shifting a Bit to Software Freedom | Techrights
22:59 TR News; Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164757
22:59 TR News; Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164757
22:59 TR Bot; Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange | Tux Machines
22:59 TR Bot; Software: Lios, Tantivy, and Orange | Tux Machines
22:59 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164758
22:59 TR News; Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164758
22:59 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:59 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:59 activelow; ok, i'll wipe fbida too, and blacklist libdrm... and convert all images into sixels
22:59 activelow; ok, i'll wipe fbida too, and blacklist libdrm... and convert all images into sixels
23:00 XRevan86; schestowitz: "even leftists in ukraine say this" <- Unfortunately, it means that those "leftists" ye mentioned are hypocrites.
23:00 XRevan86; schestowitz: "even leftists in ukraine say this" <- Unfortunately, it means that those "leftists" ye mentioned are hypocrites.
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23:02 XRevan86; "us uses them as cannon fodder" <- When it comes to Ukrainian lives, civilian and military, the help the US gives is going to save lives.
23:02 XRevan86; "us uses them as cannon fodder" <- When it comes to Ukrainian lives, civilian and military, the help the US gives is going to save lives.
23:02 MinceR; https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-use-a-library-without-reading-its-documentation-3
23:02 MinceR; https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-use-a-library-without-reading-its-documentation-3
23:02 TR Bot; When I use a library without reading its documentation | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
23:02 TR Bot; When I use a library without reading its documentation | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes
23:02 XRevan86; When it comes to Russian military lives not so much of course.
23:02 XRevan86; When it comes to Russian military lives not so much of course.
23:05 XRevan86; The war would have continued regardless of whether the US had given Ukraine help.
23:05 XRevan86; The war would have continued regardless of whether the US had given Ukraine help.
23:09 XRevan86; schestowitz: Also I'd like to know the names of those "leftists" and hopefully they aren't "Shariy" or "Kyva".
23:09 XRevan86; schestowitz: Also I'd like to know the names of those "leftists" and hopefully they aren't "Shariy" or "Kyva".
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23:13 activelow; another troublemaker is mupdf which i hoped for can remain to view PDF on framebuffer console, already downgraded this one to a 10year old version to remove undesireable dependencies...
23:13 activelow; another troublemaker is mupdf which i hoped for can remain to view PDF on framebuffer console, already downgraded this one to a 10year old version to remove undesireable dependencies...
23:16 bnchs; activelow, mupdf has 2 versions though
23:16 bnchs; activelow, mupdf has 2 versions though
23:18 activelow; bnchs: which versions?
23:18 activelow; bnchs: which versions?
23:18 bnchs; opengl renderer one
23:18 bnchs; opengl renderer one
23:18 bnchs; and x11 (i think) one
23:18 bnchs; and x11 (i think) one
23:19 activelow; i see, i thought it used /dev/fb0 (fbcon)...
23:19 activelow; i see, i thought it used /dev/fb0 (fbcon)...
23:19 activelow; seems the dependencies of image viewers always, lock into APIs of proprietary/malicious components, such as the GPU crap inside kernel (DRM), X11 which is related
23:19 activelow; seems the dependencies of image viewers always, lock into APIs of proprietary/malicious components, such as the GPU crap inside kernel (DRM), X11 which is related
23:19 bnchs; but it can be written to render to anything
23:19 bnchs; but it can be written to render to anything
23:20 bnchs; and because of that, it got ported to consoles that don't support either of those APIs like the playstation portable and nintendo wii
23:20 bnchs; and because of that, it got ported to consoles that don't support either of those APIs like the playstation portable and nintendo wii
23:20 activelow; i can convert images into sixels, convert pdf into text (pdf sucks anyway), libsdl1 can use fbcon driver... so i won't need any opengl,x11 proprietary/malicious APIs anymore
23:20 activelow; i can convert images into sixels, convert pdf into text (pdf sucks anyway), libsdl1 can use fbcon driver... so i won't need any opengl,x11 proprietary/malicious APIs anymore
23:21 activelow; meaning i can keep the entire multimedia fun, audio/video/images _without_ any libdrm/opengl/x11
23:21 activelow; meaning i can keep the entire multimedia fun, audio/video/images _without_ any libdrm/opengl/x11
23:22 activelow; which is how it should be, on *nix
23:22 activelow; which is how it should be, on *nix
23:22 activelow; next on todo is vt-switchign with mplayer-1.4/libsdl1/fbcon... prboom/libsdl1/fbcon already works absolutely flawless
23:22 activelow; next on todo is vt-switchign with mplayer-1.4/libsdl1/fbcon... prboom/libsdl1/fbcon already works absolutely flawless
23:23 activelow; too i'll check if i can pick a 256color mode for /dev/fb0, because 256 color palette is sufficient, images look _very_ good, and reducing framebuffer to 8bit(16bit) color palette is _much_ faster
23:23 activelow; too i'll check if i can pick a 256color mode for /dev/fb0, because 256 color palette is sufficient, images look _very_ good, and reducing framebuffer to 8bit(16bit) color palette is _much_ faster
23:24 activelow; i'll render sixels into 256 colors only, no noticable difference compared to 16bit or 32bit truecolor
23:24 activelow; i'll render sixels into 256 colors only, no noticable difference compared to 16bit or 32bit truecolor
23:25 activelow; XRevan86: "ukraine vs russia" is a _propaganda_ narrative of a pseudo-intellectual self-proclaimed elite
23:25 activelow; XRevan86: "ukraine vs russia" is a _propaganda_ narrative of a pseudo-intellectual self-proclaimed elite
23:25 XRevan86; activelow: Maybe I'm imagining things.
23:25 XRevan86; activelow: Maybe I'm imagining things.
23:26 activelow; the real reasons are different ones, which is the oil/gas business among other minor details
23:26 activelow; the real reasons are different ones, which is the oil/gas business among other minor details
23:27 activelow; XRevan86: yes, although it is terrifying, the portrayal of this conflict on TV is a propaganda media spectacle
23:27 activelow; XRevan86: yes, although it is terrifying, the portrayal of this conflict on TV is a propaganda media spectacle
23:28 activelow; to indoctrinate the population, to believe any bullshit those pseudo-intellectuals on TV spout all day
23:28 activelow; to indoctrinate the population, to believe any bullshit those pseudo-intellectuals on TV spout all day
23:29 XRevan86; activelow: Ye keep forgetting that I live in a different country than you.
23:29 XRevan86; activelow: Ye keep forgetting that I live in a different country than you.
23:29 activelow; XRevan86: in Leipzig, tens of thousands of soviet soldiers lived in military bases, and your President studied a few kilometers away from my university
23:29 activelow; XRevan86: in Leipzig, tens of thousands of soviet soldiers lived in military bases, and your President studied a few kilometers away from my university
23:30 activelow; my mother studied in Charkiv, father travelled to Russia regularly (coal mining business)... russia and ukraine are not that far away
23:30 activelow; my mother studied in Charkiv, father travelled to Russia regularly (coal mining business)... russia and ukraine are not that far away
23:31 XRevan86; activelow: TV looks like this: https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1521324392197804032
23:31 XRevan86; activelow: TV looks like this: https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1521324392197804032
23:31 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Messaging on Russian state TV: they want the West to know that an average Russian person is even more bloodthirsty than Putin himself, that they want Russia's invasion of Ukraine to continue and are disappointed that world leaders visiting Zelensky weren't killed along with him." | nitter
23:31 TR Bot; Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Messaging on Russian state TV: they want the West to know that an average Russian person is even more bloodthirsty than Putin himself, that they want Russia's invasion of Ukraine to continue and are disappointed that world leaders visiting Zelensky weren't killed along with him." | nitter
23:31 activelow; Ukrainian students studied at Telecom university...
23:31 activelow; Ukrainian students studied at Telecom university...
23:31 XRevan86; I can't disagree with that it's a propaganda media spectacle.
23:31 XRevan86; I can't disagree with that it's a propaganda media spectacle.
23:32 MinceR; lol @ russians being bloodthirsty
23:32 MinceR; lol @ russians being bloodthirsty
23:32 MinceR; is that why they put protesters away?
23:32 MinceR; is that why they put protesters away?
23:32 activelow; meaning, if those propaganda prostitues on TV argue i should side with any of a war against Ukraine or Russia i rather aim elsewhere, certainly not some russian or ukrainian
23:32 activelow; meaning, if those propaganda prostitues on TV argue i should side with any of a war against Ukraine or Russia i rather aim elsewhere, certainly not some russian or ukrainian
23:33 XRevan86; MinceR: Cherry picking can make any narrative possible.
23:33 XRevan86; MinceR: Cherry picking can make any narrative possible.
23:33 activelow; they frame this into "Ukraine good" "Russia bad"... remember... London business involved with Oil/Gas in Ukraine?
23:33 activelow; they frame this into "Ukraine good" "Russia bad"... remember... London business involved with Oil/Gas in Ukraine?
23:34 activelow; Burisma Bidler, Westinghouse electric fiddling in Ukrainian nuclear plants... a long list of "minor" details to ask questions about.
23:34 activelow; Burisma Bidler, Westinghouse electric fiddling in Ukrainian nuclear plants... a long list of "minor" details to ask questions about.
23:34 XRevan86; activelow: There was nothing worse that happened to the transit of gas through Ukraine than this war.
23:34 XRevan86; activelow: There was nothing worse that happened to the transit of gas through Ukraine than this war.
23:35 activelow; i don't trust this comedian from Kiev at all
23:35 activelow; i don't trust this comedian from Kiev at all
23:35 XRevan86; Don't trust away, see if I care.
23:35 XRevan86; Don't trust away, see if I care.
23:36 activelow; furthermore, the eastern regions in Ukraine, suffered from industrial decline... while Kiev became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars
23:36 activelow; furthermore, the eastern regions in Ukraine, suffered from industrial decline... while Kiev became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars
23:36 XRevan86; Not going to change anything.
23:36 XRevan86; Not going to change anything.
23:36 XRevan86; furthermore, the eastern regions in Russia, suffered from industrial decline... while Moscow became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars
23:36 XRevan86; furthermore, the eastern regions in Russia, suffered from industrial decline... while Moscow became a boom town for hipsters... funded with dollars
23:37 activelow; if population in eastern-ukraine was angry, and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress, i understand this, and too the Minsk agreement insisted on free federal elections
23:37 activelow; if population in eastern-ukraine was angry, and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress, i understand this, and too the Minsk agreement insisted on free federal elections
23:37 activelow; XRevan86: remember "drain the swapm"?
23:37 activelow; XRevan86: remember "drain the swapm"?
23:37 *matey (~matey@xv9cfpnhn2ihe.irc) has joined #techrights
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23:37 activelow; swamp
23:37 activelow; swamp
23:38 XRevan86; activelow: Especially in 2022, where they seeked through Russia bombing them and then occupying.
23:38 XRevan86; activelow: Especially in 2022, where they seeked through Russia bombing them and then occupying.
23:38 activelow; and yes, occasionally some russian snobs and their luxury is shown on tv
23:38 activelow; and yes, occasionally some russian snobs and their luxury is shown on tv
23:39 activelow; anyway, most of those heavy tanks presented on tv, were considered useless by many military experts
23:39 activelow; anyway, most of those heavy tanks presented on tv, were considered useless by many military experts
23:39 XRevan86; That luxury has no relevance to the general prosperity of Russia.
23:39 XRevan86; That luxury has no relevance to the general prosperity of Russia.
23:40 XRevan86; only as a demonstration where all the hopes for prosperity went
23:40 XRevan86; only as a demonstration where all the hopes for prosperity went
23:40 activelow; XRevan86: i do not follow the argument the investment of billions into oil/gas business, mining, pipelines were some cash grabbing scam
23:40 activelow; XRevan86: i do not follow the argument the investment of billions into oil/gas business, mining, pipelines were some cash grabbing scam
23:41 activelow; the "renewable energy" of EU is a propaganda scam
23:41 activelow; the "renewable energy" of EU is a propaganda scam
23:41 matey; i hope putlin leaves pereyaslav alone, i think its my favourite place in europe now
23:41 matey; i hope putlin leaves pereyaslav alone, i think its my favourite place in europe now
23:41 activelow; whatever EU was supposed to be... currently energy prices explode in germany, not in Italy or France for example... sun is shining
23:41 activelow; whatever EU was supposed to be... currently energy prices explode in germany, not in Italy or France for example... sun is shining
23:41 activelow; no heating required there
23:41 activelow; no heating required there
23:42 XRevan86; activelow: "and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress" <- Get a closer look at Mariupol and Kherson. What they were, what they are now and what they are going to be.
23:42 XRevan86; activelow: "and seeked association with Russia hoping for economic progress" <- Get a closer look at Mariupol and Kherson. What they were, what they are now and what they are going to be.
23:42 activelow; XRevan86: whatever was hidden in Bunkers below Mariupol, i hope it will be gone forever
23:42 activelow; XRevan86: whatever was hidden in Bunkers below Mariupol, i hope it will be gone forever
23:43 XRevan86; Especially Mariupol, because it was a city founded around Azovstal', and if ye know anything about this war, ye know that it's being erased from the face of this Earth.
23:43 XRevan86; Especially Mariupol, because it was a city founded around Azovstal', and if ye know anything about this war, ye know that it's being erased from the face of this Earth.
23:43 activelow; Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power globally, and who knows what else this clown from kiev had access to
23:43 activelow; Ukraine was the third largest nuclear power globally, and who knows what else this clown from kiev had access to
23:43 XRevan86; activelow: Ye mean the refugees and the remains of the Azov battalion?
23:43 XRevan86; activelow: Ye mean the refugees and the remains of the Azov battalion?
23:43 activelow; some Reports from Sankt Petersburg, presented evidence, Ukraine ordered drones asking to equip those with dispensers for chemicals
23:43 activelow; some Reports from Sankt Petersburg, presented evidence, Ukraine ordered drones asking to equip those with dispensers for chemicals
23:43 matey; im not tracking the war closely, im more immediately concerned with broader implications
23:43 matey; im not tracking the war closely, im more immediately concerned with broader implications
23:44 XRevan86; Some of them escaped with the help of the Red Cross and the UN, so no, they won't be gone forever.
23:44 XRevan86; Some of them escaped with the help of the Red Cross and the UN, so no, they won't be gone forever.
23:44 matey; thats good, even if it sounds too much like marisol
23:44 matey; thats good, even if it sounds too much like marisol
23:44 activelow; ballistic missiles, who knows, i don't trust this clown from kiev
23:44 activelow; ballistic missiles, who knows, i don't trust this clown from kiev
23:44 activelow; and i trust EU/NATO/USA even less
23:44 activelow; and i trust EU/NATO/USA even less
23:44 XRevan86; I only entrust nuclear weaponry to Putin.
23:44 XRevan86; I only entrust nuclear weaponry to Putin.
23:45 XRevan86; He's a stable guy.
23:45 XRevan86; He's a stable guy.
23:45 XRevan86; He won't just start a war on a whim.
23:45 XRevan86; He won't just start a war on a whim.
23:45 matey; when does putlin outweigh trump on the absolute shit scale?
23:45 matey; when does putlin outweigh trump on the absolute shit scale?
23:45 activelow; Putin and his german friends, yes
23:45 activelow; Putin and his german friends, yes
23:46 matey; trump may be the worst president in the history of the usa. okay-- but the world? hes already outclassed by stalin by an order of magnitude
23:46 matey; trump may be the worst president in the history of the usa. okay-- but the world? hes already outclassed by stalin by an order of magnitude
23:46 XRevan86; matey: I haven't been Trump wield similiar power, so hard to tell.
23:46 XRevan86; matey: I haven't been Trump wield similiar power, so hard to tell.
23:46 matey; theres that
23:46 matey; theres that
23:46 XRevan86; * haven't seen
23:46 XRevan86; * haven't seen
23:46 XRevan86; All Trump's attempts to power-grab ended miserably.
23:46 XRevan86; All Trump's attempts to power-grab ended miserably.
23:46 matey; i mean its kompot and oranges
23:46 matey; i mean its kompot and oranges
23:47 XRevan86; Did someone mention Medvedev the Kompot?
23:47 XRevan86; Did someone mention Medvedev the Kompot?
23:47 matey; but when your going for worst leader ever, it has to be
23:47 matey; but when your going for worst leader ever, it has to be
23:47 activelow; it was Burisma Bidler who interfered with Ukraine... remember the impeachment proceeding against Trump?
23:47 activelow; it was Burisma Bidler who interfered with Ukraine... remember the impeachment proceeding against Trump?
23:47 matey; no i meant the juice
23:47 matey; no i meant the juice
23:47 activelow; of cause, this was nothing...
23:47 activelow; of cause, this was nothing...
23:47 matey; close enough if you wanted to segue
23:47 matey; close enough if you wanted to segue
23:47 XRevan86; matey: Just a reference to a 2017 story.
23:47 XRevan86; matey: Just a reference to a 2017 story.
23:48 matey; crazy people named after juice have rarely ended well
23:48 matey; crazy people named after juice have rarely ended well
23:48 matey; of course there was oj
23:48 matey; of course there was oj
23:48 matey; and some guy who got killed at an airport?
23:48 matey; and some guy who got killed at an airport?
23:48 XRevan86; matey: Remember "He Is Not Dimon to You" from the Navalny's team?
23:48 XRevan86; matey: Remember "He Is Not Dimon to You" from the Navalny's team?
23:49 matey; /me shows a chart of periods where hes paid attention to russian history, with only a few bands indicating some familiarity at all
23:49 matey; /me shows a chart of periods where hes paid attention to russian history, with only a few bands indicating some familiarity at all
23:49 matey; cant say i have
23:49 matey; cant say i have
23:49 XRevan86; matey: Medvedev responded to the allegations with "nonsense, froth and kompot"
23:49 XRevan86; matey: Medvedev responded to the allegations with "nonsense, froth and kompot"
23:49 XRevan86; it kinda stuck :)
23:49 XRevan86; it kinda stuck :)
23:49 matey; im focused on the immediate and the less recent historical, mostly the latter (which chronologically is the former)
23:49 matey; im focused on the immediate and the less recent historical, mostly the latter (which chronologically is the former)
23:50 matey; oh good nickname then
23:50 matey; oh good nickname then
23:50 XRevan86; matey: Sorry, sorry, it's just meme value that's relevant in this context.
23:50 XRevan86; matey: Sorry, sorry, it's just meme value that's relevant in this context.
23:50 matey; no apology necessary. if anything you help flesh out this spotty history im working (not very hard) on
23:50 matey; no apology necessary. if anything you help flesh out this spotty history im working (not very hard) on
23:50 matey; russia is a side interest for me
23:50 matey; russia is a side interest for me
23:51 matey; but ive spent a lot of time on it recently, so id be lying if i feigned complete disinterest
23:51 matey; but ive spent a lot of time on it recently, so id be lying if i feigned complete disinterest
23:51 XRevan86; It was one of the most resonant Navalny's investigations.
23:51 XRevan86; It was one of the most resonant Navalny's investigations.
23:51 XRevan86; Outgunned only by the Putin's Palace one.
23:51 XRevan86; Outgunned only by the Putin's Palace one.
23:51 matey; clearly most of whats happened recently is tragedy on tragedy with more than a hint of catastrophe and not only a sprinkling of fucking disaster
23:51 matey; clearly most of whats happened recently is tragedy on tragedy with more than a hint of catastrophe and not only a sprinkling of fucking disaster
23:52 matey; hopefully he will be dead before it gets too much worse
23:52 matey; hopefully he will be dead before it gets too much worse
23:52 matey; when the whole world wants someone dead, sometimes thats just enough
23:52 matey; when the whole world wants someone dead, sometimes thats just enough
23:52 XRevan86; It's sure fun to see that Russia's empty allegations that Ukraine intended to make nuclear weapons have worked on someone.
23:52 XRevan86; It's sure fun to see that Russia's empty allegations that Ukraine intended to make nuclear weapons have worked on someone.
23:53 XRevan86; Actually providing evidence is redundant at this point.
23:53 XRevan86; Actually providing evidence is redundant at this point.
23:53 matey; i realise there are some bizarre people who want the opposite
23:53 matey; i realise there are some bizarre people who want the opposite
23:53 matey; theres really no accounting for taste
23:53 matey; theres really no accounting for taste
23:53 matey; then again im a big fan of dissent in general, so im glad at least theyre not (all) being hauled off somewhere
23:53 matey; then again im a big fan of dissent in general, so im glad at least theyre not (all) being hauled off somewhere
23:53 XRevan86; Russian officials have put saying "we have proof" for actually giving any proof on a production line.
23:53 XRevan86; Russian officials have put saying "we have proof" for actually giving any proof on a production line.
23:53 matey; in russia im sure thats not entirely true
23:53 matey; in russia im sure thats not entirely true
23:54 matey; russian officials sound worse than marketers
23:54 matey; russian officials sound worse than marketers
23:54 matey; if thats possible
23:54 matey; if thats possible
23:54 matey; i dont hate russia in the slightest
23:54 matey; i dont hate russia in the slightest
23:54 XRevan86; Neither am I.
23:54 XRevan86; Neither am I.
23:55 matey; my impression is wonderful people, a smattering of former mobsters (surely a couple not so former ones) and a government straight out of hell itself
23:55 matey; my impression is wonderful people, a smattering of former mobsters (surely a couple not so former ones) and a government straight out of hell itself
23:55 XRevan86; I am disappointed however.
23:55 XRevan86; I am disappointed however.
23:55 MinceR; "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed"
23:55 MinceR; "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed"
23:55 matey; yes, disappointment sounds like a good british understatement for it-- whether or not youre british (fairly certainly youre not-- but they didnt invent irony, they only take most of the credit)
23:55 matey; yes, disappointment sounds like a good british understatement for it-- whether or not youre british (fairly certainly youre not-- but they didnt invent irony, they only take most of the credit)
23:56 matey; (to be fair theyve contributed substantially)
23:56 matey; (to be fair theyve contributed substantially)
23:56 XRevan86; I despise my government, I am disappointed in my people. Not an understatement.
23:56 XRevan86; I despise my government, I am disappointed in my people. Not an understatement.
23:56 matey; (almost as much as mincer)
23:56 matey; (almost as much as mincer)
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23:57 matey; XRevan86: somehow i can relate to this
23:57 matey; XRevan86: somehow i can relate to this
23:58 matey; many years ago (when i was quite young) i swore id never visit either the republic or northern ireland
23:58 matey; many years ago (when i was quite young) i swore id never visit either the republic or northern ireland
23:58 XRevan86; matey: Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government.
23:58 XRevan86; matey: Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government.
23:58 matey; because of all the fucking nonsense there
23:58 matey; because of all the fucking nonsense there
23:59 matey; however, both are among my favourite places on earth now, and beautiful as fuck
23:59 matey; however, both are among my favourite places on earth now, and beautiful as fuck
23:59 matey; Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. <- NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT!
23:59 matey; Certainly to a lesser extent, because there aren't many places in the world with a comparably despicable government. <- NOT FOR LACK OF EFFORT!
23:59 matey; also, i think youre taking too much credit for russia herself
23:59 matey; also, i think youre taking too much credit for russia herself
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