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00:00 schestowitz; never ttust what a phama companies say about their OWN products
00:00 schestowitz; with patents that make lying alluring
00:00 schestowitz; and media manipulation affordable and seductive
00:00 activelow; a vaccine cannot be qualified with a simple percentage; this is complete nonsense, quackery.
00:00 activelow; it is like saying you could measure time with a thermometer
00:00 schestowitz; the vaccines were developed with our money
00:00 schestowitz; they should be be patented
00:00 schestowitz; but affortable
00:00 schestowitz; and tested by the state, not companies
00:01 schestowitz; *should not be patented
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00:01 schestowitz; the for-profit companies and their motiveds undermine the policy
00:01 schestowitz; because they have financial incentive to NOT solve the crisis
00:01 schestowitz; but to prolong it
00:01 schestowitz; sad, but true
00:02 activelow; what's the time? 23deg fahrenheit. it's colder outside than during the night. 95% blah blah blah.
00:02 activelow; i want to see Chancellor Olaf Scholz, live on TV prime time, receiving his vaccination.
00:03 activelow; 95% snake oil.
00:03 MinceR; then you'll say he received some other vaccine
00:04 MinceR; or saline
00:04 activelow; don't care, main thing, it must be effective, to cure hime once and for all.
00:04 immibis; schestowitz: it's almost like a company spent 20 years developing easily alterable vaccines starting from SARS 1.0
00:04 immibis; activelow: The numbers I'm hearing from antivax morons are that 90% of people are vaccinated but they still make up 50% of hospitalized people, would you roughly agree with that?
00:05 hyperreal; Jfc. I'm running Fedora Xfce and the power management isn't working right, so I'm extremely indecisive about what distro to use now
00:05 immibis; schestowitz: weekly ivermectin makes them even more money
00:05 MinceR; hyperreal: maybe try void
00:05 hyperreal; candidates are Void, NixOS
00:05 activelow; immibis: those who received their first injection of the miracle are accounted for as "unvaccinated" because they had not received their "booster" yet
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00:06 hyperreal; MinceR is Bedrock reasonably stable?
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00:06 immibis; activelow: and that is a problem because?
00:06 activelow; immibis: furthermore, eldery people were vaccinated first i heard rumors, and it is them being hospitalized more often on average.
00:06 immibis; if I install a quarter of Linux, and it doesn't boot, I can't call it a computer with Linux until I install the rest
00:07 MinceR; hyperreal: i haven't had any issues with it, but it isn't for the faint of heart
00:07 activelow; immibis: chances are they might have died from their first injection - IMPOSSIBLE to know. impossible to verify.
00:07 MinceR; hyperreal: bedrock lets you essentially merge multiple distros together
00:07 immibis; activelow: Golly gosh, I wonder why that is! I wonder why they would give priority vaccinations to the group that got severely sick the most!
00:07 MinceR; hyperreal: i don't recommend nixos because it's systemd-based
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00:07 immibis; activelow: People are probably dying from installing Linux as we speak
00:08 immibis; it's impossible to verify that installing linux is not killing people
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00:09 psydroid2; Linux kills people, let's make a group on Textbook about replacing it with Windows
00:12 schestowitz-TR; immibis: that's not about risk
00:12 activelow; a severe killer known is trombosis; eldery people often do NOT drink enough water, which may or may not be related.
00:12 schestowitz-TR; or safety
00:12 schestowitz-TR; we're talking about efficacy here
00:12 schestowitz-TR; among other angles
00:12 schestowitz-TR; (speaking for myself)
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00:12 schestowitz-TR; patent issues aren't a side issues
00:12 schestowitz-TR; ut a union of nurses called them "covid criminals"
00:13 schestowitz-TR; because it's wrong for them to be used to sell patent licences
00:13 activelow; reminds me, forcing elderies to eat and drink, even when doctors insist, is impossible, often. that's why some receive a probe into their stomach to provide them with nutrients and water.
00:13 schestowitz-TR; instead of treating people
00:14 activelow; immibis: now politicians boast about less excessive fatalities in germany, which makes me think how this could be related to enforced nutrient and water supply with a stomach probe.
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00:15 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2: clinical trials by "likes"
00:15 schestowitz-TR; "like" if you felt better
00:15 activelow; at least a stomach probe is relatively cheap. while a blood cleaning procedure (trombosis, which could be related to insufficient water intake, kidney malfunction, and blood containing toxins) is relatively expensive
00:15 schestowitz-TR; squint for double-blindn testing
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00:15 immibis; schestowitz-TR: well, efficacy is good enough that it makes a difference, and therefore at the very least, we should use it (all 4 shots) alongside other measures
00:16 immibis; There is some critical point, a critical amount of spread reduction, at which the pandemic simply goes away.
00:16 schestowitz-TR; we have not had that yet
00:16 schestowitz-TR; not in the UK
00:16 schestowitz-TR; barely in the US
00:16 immibis; we don't know what that is, but if we reduce spread more and more we are more likely to approach it. Unfortunately we are plagued by neo-fascists, plague rats, literal traitors to human civilization, who vote with their actions to NOT reach that point.
00:17 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/category/health/
00:17 TR Bot; Health
00:17 schestowitz; I use the official data only
00:17 activelow; in case of trombosis, oxygen supply was known to be ineffective occasionally due to lack of blood circulation, and dangerous even with intubation. not sure if elderies aged 80 or 90years should be intubated, or receive enforced nutrition.
00:19 activelow; the reason fatalities in saxony are high: aging population after millions of the young population left saxony after 1990.
00:19 activelow; in many regions more than 50% of the population reached retirement age.
00:22 immibis; don't know what you're talking about now. is it stupid anti-vax drivel or not?
00:23 immibis; get vaccinated, encourage everyone you know to get vaccinated, encourage vaccine mandates
00:23 immibis; wear masks, encourage everyone you know to wear masks, encourage mask mandates
00:23 immibis; work from home, encourage everyone you know to work from home, encourage wfh mandates
00:24 immibis; saying "vaccines are good but the government shouldn't mandate them" is a lot like saying "drunk driving is bad but the government shouldn't ban it"
00:24 activelow; none of this can prevent "excess hopsitalization", it didn't so far.
00:24 activelow; with regards to the corona spook.
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00:27 MinceR; no, saying "vaccines are good but the government shouldn't mandate them" is a lot like saying "i don't trust governments"
00:27 activelow; the uncontrolled distribution of vaccines from different vendors with dubious claims can pose a higher risk than none.
00:27 hyperreal; MinceR thanks
00:27 MinceR; np
00:27 hyperreal; MinceR I'm just curious, what are your main criticisms of systemd? (I
00:27 MinceR; though many governments would probably do a better job at it than the hungarian one
00:27 hyperreal; (I'm not trying to argue, just wondering)
00:28 activelow; i want to see Chancellor Olaf Scholz receiving his snake oil shot with 95% efficacy live on TV, . he is first.
00:28 TR News; #Microsoft Corporation is Still Protecting a Violent Criminal Who Assaults Women (Employing Him as Manager, Protecting Him From Arrest, Paying Him a Salary) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/protecting-graveley-at-microsoft/ #Techrights #github #deletegithub #gplviolations | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/protecting-graveley-at-microsoft/
00:28 TR Bot; Microsoft Corporation is Still Protecting a Violent Criminal Who Assaults Women (Employing Him as Manager, Protecting Him From Arrest, Paying Him a Salary) | Techrights
00:28 activelow; "mandatory vaccination", with corona in particular.
00:28 MinceR; hyperreal: it's being pushed on people who don't want it via microsoftesque tricks; it's designed to infringe on the users' freedoms; it's poorly designed, poorly implemented and very bloated, and isn't modular
00:29 MinceR; hyperreal: its development also churns the code in a way that makes forks impractical to maintain
00:29 MinceR; hyperreal: it's sold as an "init system", which it isn't; and it does the job of an init system very poorly
00:29 u-amarsh04; I gave up on systemd when it stopped allowing me to do remote reboots, exposing that it had not been tested in environments requiring remote restarts
00:29 MinceR; hyperreal: it can't boot reliably and it can't shutdown reliably
00:30 u-amarsh04; been on Devuan ever since
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00:30 XRevan86; u-amarsh04: What's a remote reboot? Via SSH?
00:31 u-amarsh04; like when you don't have physical access to the box, XRevan86 and need to do an init 6 to load a new kernel
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00:31 XRevan86; u-amarsh04: Sounds pretty standard. "systemctl reboot" and off ye go.
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00:32 MinceR; "systemctl reboot" and then ask someone to go to the server in the DC and hit reset when it gets stuck in "a stop job is running"
00:32 XRevan86; u-amarsh04: The systemd watchdog has a 2 minute timeout.
00:32 u-amarsh04; it may work now but it didn't before
00:32 MinceR; and then have them find the emergency prompt hidden on an inactive virtual console so that it can boot
00:32 MinceR; (the latter comes up _after_ the reboot, during the boot process)
00:32 immibis; activelow: You don't really want to see that. If you saw that, you'd just find another goalpost.
00:33 XRevan86; u-amarsh04: There's no real difference between remote and physical.
00:33 MinceR; and then hope it actually managed to start sshd so you can log back in
00:33 MinceR; sometimes it forgets to start stuff
00:33 immibis; you wouldn't get vaccinated no matter how many politicians you saw get vaccinated on TV. You'd demand proof it wasn't a placebo, for example
00:33 XRevan86; MinceR: I did get that issue, on OpenRC.
00:33 MinceR; sad
00:33 MinceR; does that repair systemd somehow?
00:33 hyperreal; MinceR I see
00:34 MinceR; i got the "a stop job is running" bullshit many times, and eventually the emergency bullshit came up with every boot
00:34 XRevan86; MinceR: WORKSFORME
00:35 psydroid2; "a botch job has been initiated"
00:35 MinceR; :>
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00:36 MinceR; XRevan86: maybe give runit or BSD init a try :>
00:36 TR News; Remarks on our publications from this morning and a call for more leakers and whistleblowers, who know #GitHub better than anybody else (including lots of fools who still outsource all of their hard labour to #Microsoft through GitHub) http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/microsoft-github-whistleblowers/
00:36 XRevan86; MinceR: Do they have a watchdog?
00:37 TR Bot; A Call for Sources and Whistleblowers From Microsofts GitHub | Techrights
00:37 XRevan86; Or will they freeze if an initscript freezes?
00:37 XRevan86; now that'd be a problem with a remote reboot :)
00:37 MinceR; XRevan86: dunno, never had an issue with that
00:37 MinceR; probably because those scripts aren't overcomplicated :>
00:38 MinceR; in the case of BSD-style rc, most of the rc scripts run the same code anyway
00:38 XRevan86; MinceR: systemd services are crazy-simple, and ye still complain.
00:38 TR News; #microsoft shilling site #BleepingComputer is helping Microsoft attack #gnu #linux this evening... by promoting #WSL
00:38 MinceR; XRevan86: systemd code is very far from "crazy-simple", it's more crazy-complex
00:39 MinceR; no wonder it's full of bugs
00:44 schestowitz; https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/xmgoat-open-source-pentesting-tool-for-azure/
00:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxtoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/xmgoat-open-source-pentesting-tool-for-azure/
00:44 TR Bot; XMGoat: Open-source Pentesting Tool for Azure | Linux Today
00:44 schestowitz; ???
00:44 schestowitz; azure at linuxtoday
00:45 schestowitz; who deemed that relevant???
00:45 psydroid2; azuretoday
00:45 psydroid2; vistatoday
00:45 schestowitz; disappointed
00:45 MinceR; it's about azure
00:45 psydroid2; wsltoday
00:45 schestowitz; maybe micro larabel is next
00:45 MinceR; azure is a MICROS~1 disservice
00:45 MinceR; MICROS~1 owns a big chunk of the Linux-Destroying Foundation
00:45 MinceR; therefore the LDF has a vested interest in advertising XMGoat :>
00:45 schestowitz-TR; growing chunk
00:46 psydroid2; githugtoday
00:46 psydroid2; for those who are more socially inclined
00:46 schestowitz-TR; [22:07] <techrights-news> Yet more of Microsoft inside the 'Linux' Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158828#comment-32015
00:46 TR Bot; 'Linux' Foundation Leftovers | Tux Machines
00:46 schestowitz-TR; LF: let's quote Microsoft employees
00:46 schestowitz-TR; for our press releases
00:46 schestowitz-TR; they do it all the time
00:46 schestowitz-TR; makes one wonder...
00:47 psydroid2; they've figured out the only way they can stay relevant is if they take over the entire software industry based on free software
00:48 psydroid2; so even when vista goes away they will have their pawns in everything and can monetise that
00:49 psydroid2; it's evil, but you have to be if you can come up with a plan like that
00:49 activelow; immibis: exactly. which should be possible too, easily, depending on wether it was 95% snake oil or not.
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00:50 activelow; let's make a TV series out of it: "cross vaccination series" part 1,2,3,4,5,6.... then they say they're ready; and get injected the real things to see if it protected them or not.
00:51 MinceR; you'd need a lot of people for that
00:51 MinceR; small samples aren't useful
00:52 immibis; activelow: You wouldn't be satisfied with seeing a politician get a somehow-provably-real vaccine (that is an impossible standard of proof by the way) on live TV.
00:52 immibis; activelow: You'd probably then just write it off as "well I'm younger and healthier than that politician so I don't need it"
00:52 activelow; immibis: such as this, once Chancellor Olaf Scholz was fully vaccinated according his *own* "recommendations"; then harvest some of the finest corona slime from some of the homeless who had benefit from the generous "social security" (olaf scholz was responsbile for)
00:53 activelow; immibis: i did NOT recommend either vaccination or none. i say it was and still is *impossible* to know or recommend anything.
00:53 immibis; oh, adding another 10-30% chance of failure to the proof standard, before resorting to the "well I don't need it anyway"
00:53 immibis; it's impossible to recommend linux, what if linus torvalds is secretly google?
00:54 MinceR; and i doubt that the reality TV format would work with such a large number of participants
00:55 immibis; activelow: available data shows vaccines are good. the exact level of good is up for debate. and it would be nice if they were even gooder. but you play the cards you are dealt
00:55 immibis; also you do not stop a pandemic by deliberately infecting people
00:56 immibis; that is like stopping climate change by burning all the oil so there's none left
00:56 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158897 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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00:56 immibis; because people wanted you to see the oil get burned on live TV to prove it wasn't being used to generate electricity or move cars
00:57 activelow; good point, so far NONE of the supposed "climate change" action had any relevant effect, except for cash grabbing of the exact same type of politicians
00:57 activelow; btw. lock-down won't have any either
00:59 immibis; In order to prove we aren't using petrol cars we have to burn all the petrol on live TV. true or false
00:59 activelow; your choice, not mine.
01:00 immibis; i think if you want to burn all the petrol on live TV to prove we aren't using petrol cars, you're a complete moron
01:01 immibis; and the same for coronavirus. if you want to infect as many people as possible on live TV in order to reduce infection
01:01 activelow; you said you wanted to.
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01:01 immibis; it's an analogy for your stupid idea
01:01 MinceR; there isn't a lot done about emissions from transportation of goods, industrial emissions or emissions from heating homes, afaict
01:01 MinceR; and those account for a lot more than what the talking heads usually target
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01:01 MinceR; oh, also, reduction of human population is also not promoted
01:02 MinceR; even though that would probably be the most effective means of reducing emissions
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01:04 immibis; activelow: why do you demand politicians specifically, why does it not matter that billions of people who aren't politicians are already vaccinated?
01:05 hyperreal; Going to install Void
01:05 hyperreal; Using the x86_64-musl image
01:06 schestowitz-TR; good luck
01:06 MinceR; +
01:07 activelow; immibis: it is their own recommendation to be injected with whatever this protect against
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01:15 immibis; activelow: they recommend injecting yourself with covid-19?
01:17 activelow; in germany? the current argument is "mandatory vaccination", otherwise working is not permitted anymore, and violating an testing or vaccination procedure is sanctioned with up to 25000Euros or 5years imprisonment.
01:18 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21120830
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01:19 immibis; activelow: good, they should've done it 3 months ago
01:20 activelow; maybe, however polticians had to be injected first, and then receive the real thing to verify the glorious 95% efficacy.
01:21 activelow; live on TV, in particular the real thing shouldn't be difficult to provide undeniable evidence for.
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01:25 MinceR; and yet it is
01:25 MinceR; how was that syringe filled?
01:25 MinceR; where are those bottles from?
01:26 MinceR; then you're looking at uncut footage of the vaccine being delivered to the vaccination point
01:26 MinceR; then of its manufacturing process
01:27 activelow; it's not yet clear how many seasons either... and how many injections are necessary to protect them and everyone else, to take responsibility and whatnot.
01:27 activelow; i mean, if Olaf Scholz wants 3 or more injections, to be certain he was protected, before receiving the real stuff.
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01:29 activelow; MinceR: another problem is this, because the Moderna stockpiles reached expiration date recently, 30 millions of this had to be injected before christmas.
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01:30 activelow; a tiny stash is required, to reliably supply those politicians and journalists; would be unfair if they missed any of their chance to be protected.
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01:30 MinceR; and then the question of what if it was someone else and the face was deepfaked comes up...
01:31 activelow; what have we: Moderna 2 shots, Pfizer 2 shots, AstraZenac1 1 shot, Johnson&Johnson 1 shot, Sputnik-V 2 shots.
01:32 TR News; #Kernel and Graphics: AMD and XWayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158903 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:34 MinceR; AstraZanac, eh?
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01:35 immibis; activelow: who says 95%? vaccinations are probably not 95% effective, probably not against omicron especially
01:35 immibis; activelow: and what is the problem with using stockpiles before they expire? are you worried that almost-expired vaccine is totally ineffective?
01:36 TR News; #PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.3.0 is now released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158904 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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01:38 immibis; it is like there is food available for the homeless and you are demanding politicians eat it on live TV before fasting for 30 days to prove it prevents starvation
01:39 immibis; also you want this test to happen despite the fact the food expires next week
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01:48 activelow; immibis: i am only worried it will not protect our new Chancellor, 95%.
01:49 activelow; the recent recommendation was omicron was covered by the schedule, and Olaf Scholz insisted to get it.
01:49 immibis; activelow: Why are you specifically worried that Olaf Scholz will fall into the 5%?
01:50 immibis; what has he done to you to make you worry about his health so much?
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01:52 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TR, Mom got a free washing machine from Amazon.
01:52 DaemonFC; They said "Used Like New" and she got it and it's very obvious a forklift hit it.
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01:53 DaemonFC; So she took pictures and they gave her the money back, but it works, and so they just said keep it.
01:55 activelow; immibis: he is not the only one
01:55 activelow; i could easily imagine a mass event, for all those journalists and politicians, to receive their vaccines to protect themselves, in a tent outside soccer stadiums, just as they had recommended to do themselves.
01:56 activelow; and, it is mandatory! otherwise no permission to work, sanctioned with 25000Euros and 5years imprisonment. it is their own "recommendations" to protect themselves, not mine.
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02:41 TR News; Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-081221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-081221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-081221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-081221.txt
02:41 TR Bot; IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, December 08, 2021
02:44 TR News; Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-08.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-08.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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03:23 IPFS; Gemini requests since start of month: 195138 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38331 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 1 months 29 days ago
03:23 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/amazon-is-shutting-down-web-ranking-site-alexacom/
03:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/amazon-is-shutting-down-web-ranking-site-alexacom/
03:23 TR Bot; Amazon is shutting down web ranking site Alexa.com
03:24 AdmFubar; https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/tor-s-main-site-blocked-in-russia-as-censorship-widens/
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03:24 TR Bot; Tors main site blocked in Russia as censorship widens
03:24 IPFS; IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 1.2 GB TotalOut: 354 MB
03:24 IPFS; New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
03:32 AdmFubar; https://www.darktrace.com/en/blog/the-double-extortion-business-conti-ransomware-gang-finds-new-avenues-of-negotiation/
03:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: darktrace.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darktrace.com/en/blog/the-double-extortion-business-conti-ransomware-gang-finds-new-avenues-of-negotiation/
03:32 TR Bot; double extortion business: Conti Ransomware Gang finds new avenues of negotiation | Blog | Darktrace
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03:35 IPFS; New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
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07:03 AdmFubar; https://www.osnews.com/story/134313/apple-ceo-tim-cook-secretly-signed-275-billion-deal-with-china-in-2016/
07:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134313/apple-ceo-tim-cook-secretly-signed-275-billion-deal-with-china-in-2016/
07:03 TR Bot; CEO Tim Cook secretly signed $275 billion deal with China in 2016 OSnews
07:04 AdmFubar; https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-epic-app-payment-delay
07:04 TR Bot; won a court battle to delay changing the App Store - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
07:13 *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
07:13 *Now talking on #techrights
07:13 *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/
07:13 *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021
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07:27 schestowitz; Thu 07:11:16 AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/au-where-does-the-anti-trolling-bill-take-us-if-anywhere-at-all-bye-bye-voller/
07:27 Alternative link; Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/au-where-does-the-anti-trolling-bill-take-us-if-anywhere-at-all-bye-bye-voller/
07:27 schestowitz; Thu 07:11:44 AdmFubar https://www.pogowasright.org/the-popular-family-safety-app-life360-is-selling-precise-location-data-on-its-tens-of-millions-of-users/
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07:27 schestowitz; the logger was temporarily offline
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07:54 AdmFubar; https://www.darktrace.com/en/blog/how-one-email-took-down-a-logistics-company/
07:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: darktrace.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darktrace.com/en/blog/how-one-email-took-down-a-logistics-company/
07:54 TR Bot; one email took down a logistics company | Blog | Darktrace
07:54 AdmFubar; ;)
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08:57 TR News; #Servers : Containers, #Istio , and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158905 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:57 TR Bot; Servers: Containers, Istio, and More | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; #Debian and #Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158906 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
08:58 TR Bot; Debian and Ubuntu | Tux Machines
08:58 TR News; #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, December 08, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
08:58 TR Bot; Bulletin Archives
08:58 TR News; #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
08:58 TR Bot; Techrights Full IPFS Index
08:59 TR News; #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/irc-log-081221/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/09/irc-log-081221/
08:59 TR Bot; IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, December 08, 2021 | Techrights
09:01 TR News; Ahead of court and amid arrest warrant #Microsoft still deems this a good idea? Then again, this same company works for ICE, helping to kidnap babies from their mothers http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/protecting-graveley-at-microsoft/
09:01 TR Bot; Microsoft Corporation is Still Protecting a Violent Criminal Who Assaults Women (Employing Him as Manager, Protecting Him From Arrest, Paying Him a Salary) | Techrights
09:01 TR News; #Tails 4.25 launches new graphical backup tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158826#comment-32020 #gnu #linux #debian
09:01 TR Bot; Tails 4.25 Anonymous Linux OS Released with New Backup Tool for Persistent Storage | Tux Machines
09:01 TR News; #TechStoney is promoting a #microsoft PASSWORD STEALER and #ProprietarySoftware #spyware here! https://www.itsfoss.net/endeavoros-4mlinux-mx-21-elementary-os-vscode-vivaldi/ don't do this to #gnu #linux users, please... http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/
09:01 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/endeavoros-4mlinux-mx-21-elementary-os-vscode-vivaldi/
09:01 TR Bot; 4MLinux, MX-21, elementary OS, VSCode, Vivaldi - itsfoss.net
09:01 TR Bot; Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | Techrights
09:02 TR News; NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast # Industry Participants Discuss Security, Benefits of Internet-Connected Devices https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/12/industry-participants-discuss-security-benefit-of-internet-connected-devices/
09:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/12/industry-participants-discuss-security-benefit-of-internet-connected-devices/
09:02 TR Bot; Industry Participants Discuss Security, Benefits of Internet-Connected Devices : Broadband Breakfast
09:10 TR News; NEWS #TheHill #Health #fb #facebook #Instagram chief gets bipartisan grilling over harm to teens https://thehill.com/policy/technology/584985-instagram-chief-gets-bipartisan-grilling-over-harm-to-teens
09:10 TR Bot; chief gets bipartisan grilling over harm to teens | TheHill
09:12 TR News; #Apple debuts new 'Open' 'Source' website, will release projects on #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/12/08/apple-debuts-new-open-source-website-will-release-projects-on-github #Openwashing
09:12 Alternative link; Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/12/08/apple-debuts-new-open-source-website-will-release-projects-on-github
09:12 TR Bot; debuts new Open Source website, will release projects on GitHub | AppleInsider
09:13 TR News; NEWS #Tor #Privacy #Surveillance HAROI: Human Readable Authenticated Relay Operator Identifier https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2021-December/014688.html
09:13 TR Bot; [tor-dev] HAROI: Human Readable Authenticated Relay Operator Identifier
09:13 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance How to keep some of your #Twitter data away from advertisers https://www.theverge.com/22534733/twitter-ads-advertisers-privacy-safety-how-to-data-privacy
09:13 TR Bot; How to keep some of your Twitter data away from advertisers - The Verge
09:14 TR News; NEWS #RFERL #Privacy #Surveillance #Russia Blocks Privacy Service #Tor In Latest Move To Control Internet https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-blocks-tor-internet/31599622.html
09:14 TR Bot; Russia Blocks Privacy Service Tor In Latest Move To Control Internet
09:15 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Russia Blocks TorProject.org and Begins Blocking of Wider Tor Network https://torrentfreak.com/russia-blocks-torproject-org-and-begins-blocking-of-wider-tor-network-211208/
09:15 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/russia-blocks-torproject-org-and-begins-blocking-of-wider-tor-network-211208/
09:15 TR Bot; Blocks TorProject.org and Begins Blocking of Wider Tor Network * TorrentFreak
09:15 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance #Instagram head says its bringing back the chronological feed https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/8/22824609/instagram-chronological-feed-adam-mosseri
09:15 TR Bot; Instagram head says its bringing back the chronological feed - The Verge
09:15 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance How to create an NFT and why you may not want to https://www.theverge.com/22809090/nft-create-opensea-rarible-cryptocurrency-ethereum-collectibles-how-to
09:15 TR Bot; How to create an NFT and why you may not want to - The Verge
09:15 TR News; NEWS #PortSwigger #Confidentiality #uBlock , I exfiltrate: exploiting ad blockers with CSS https://portswigger.net/research/ublock-i-exfiltrate-exploiting-ad-blockers-with-css
09:15 TR Bot; uBlock, I exfiltrate: exploiting ad blockers with CSS | PortSwigger Research
09:22 TR News; NEWS #Neowin #freesw The #EuropeanCommission is making its software open source to benefit society https://www.neowin.net/news/the-european-commission-is-making-its-software-open-source-to-benefit-society/
09:22 TR Bot; The European Commission is making its software open source to benefit society - Neowin
09:23 TR News; NEWS #TheHill #Google files lawsuit against Russian [crackers] as part of disrupting botnet https://thehill.com/policy/technology/584704-google-files-lawsuit-against-russian-hackers-as-part-of-disrupting
09:23 TR Bot; files lawsuit against Russian hackers as part of disrupting botnet | TheHill
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09:29 TR News; NEWS #FrontpageMag #Censorship RaymondIbrahim.com Banned as a Pornographic Website https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/12/raymondibrahimcom-banned-pornographic-website-raymond-ibrahim/
09:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: frontpagemag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/12/raymondibrahimcom-banned-pornographic-website-raymond-ibrahim/
09:29 TR Bot; Banned as a Pornographic Website | Frontpagemag
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09:30 TR News; NEWS #TheTimesofIsrael #Censorship #israel Knesset advances bill censoring criminal #socialcontrolmedia posts https://www.timesofisrael.com/knesset-advances-bill-censoring-criminal-social-media-posts/
09:30 TR Bot; Knesset advances bill censoring 'criminal' social media posts | The Times of Israel
09:30 TR News; [Old] #TheLondonEconomic #Censorship English schools banned from using anti-capitalist material in #teaching https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/english-schools-banned-from-using-anti-capitalist-material-in-teaching-203307/
09:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thelondoneconomic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/english-schools-banned-from-using-anti-capitalist-material-in-teaching-203307/
09:30 TR Bot; English schools banned from using anti-capitalist material in teaching
09:33 TR News; NEWS #VOANews #PressFreedom Filipino, Russian Journalists to Receive Nobel Peace Prize in #Oslo https://www.voanews.com/a/philippine-russian-journalists-to-receive-nobel-peace-prize-in-oslo/6344800.html "The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it was honoring the pair for their efforts to safeguard press freedom."
09:33 TR Bot; Filipino, Russian Journalists to Receive Nobel Peace Prize in Oslo
09:33 TR News; NEWS #RTL #PressFreedom Nobel laureate Ressa urges journalists to defend their rights https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1829999.html "Currently on bail pending an appeal against a conviction last year in a cyber libel case"
09:33 TR Bot; RTL Today - Philippines: Nobel laureate Ressa urges journalists to defend their rights
09:33 TR News; NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #FreeSpeech Advocates Contemplate International Human Rights Obligations on Big Tech https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/12/free-speech-advocates-contemplate-international-human-rights-obligations-on-big-tech/ do not say "Big Tech": http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/
09:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/12/free-speech-advocates-contemplate-international-human-rights-obligations-on-big-tech/
09:33 TR Bot; Free Speech Advocates Contemplate International Human Rights Obligations on Big Tech : Broadband Breakfast
09:33 TR Bot; Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights
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09:34 TR News; NEWS #HollywoodReporter #DRM #FoxNews Ready to Go All-In On #Streaming If Pay-TV Decline Keeps Up https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/fox-news-streaming-fox-nation-1235059246/
↺ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/fox-news-streaming-fox-nation-1235059246/
09:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/fox-news-streaming-fox-nation-1235059246/
09:34 TR Bot; Fox Nation to Stream Fox News if Cable Bundle Continues Decline The Hollywood Reporter
09:34 TR News; NEWS #TheVerge #Copyrights #Copyright #Roku settles YouTube dispute and locks down apps in multi-year deal https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/8/22823949/roku-google-youtube-tv-deal-multiyear-extension
09:34 TR Bot; Roku settles YouTube dispute and locks down apps in multi-year deal - The Verge
09:34 TR News; NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Operation 'IPTV Special': 49 #IPTV Resellers Fined 10,000 Each https://torrentfreak.com/operation-iptv-special-49-pirate-iptv-resellers-fine-e10000-each-211208/
09:34 Alternative link; Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/operation-iptv-special-49-pirate-iptv-resellers-fine-e10000-each-211208/
09:34 TR Bot; 'IPTV Special': 49 Pirate IPTV Resellers Fined 10,000 Each * TorrentFreak
09:42 TR News; NEWS #DeSmog With Shell Abandoning the Cambo Project, the North Sea Urgently Needs a Serious Just Transition Plan https://www.desmog.com/2021/12/08/with-shell-abandoning-the-cambo-project-the-north-sea-urgently-needs-a-serious-just-transition-plan/ " #Cambo oilfield in the North Sea"
09:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: desmog.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.desmog.com/2021/12/08/with-shell-abandoning-the-cambo-project-the-north-sea-urgently-needs-a-serious-just-transition-plan/
09:42 TR Bot; Shell Abandoning the Cambo Project, the North Sea Urgently Needs a Serious Just Transition Plan - DeSmog
09:46 CParadoxum_; Is it just me or is it the case the with the latest patches to enable rust for linux the kernel has been fully co-opted?
09:47 CParadoxum_; This just opens the door for more sophisticated backdoors: How many contributers and maintainers even know rust at a glance? It's going to be very easy to insert unnoticable backdoors into the kernel.
09:48 CParadoxum_; Is it time to move to a BSD kernel or HURD?
09:48 schestowitz-TR; which patch?
09:48 schestowitz-TR; just rust?
09:48 schestowitz-TR; we wrote about the rust issue
09:48 schestowitz-TR; not so much a security issue, or not primarily that
09:50 schestowitz-TR; i think it would be unhelpful to paint it as an issue for these reasons
09:51 TR News; #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158907 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
09:51 TR Bot; Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
09:52 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #NSOGroup #Apple Notifies More Victims Of NSO Malware Hacking Attempts https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211206/14453748064/apple-notifies-more-victims-nso-malware-hacking-attempts.shtml did Apple notify them also of Apple and NSA spying? No. That's "GOOD" spying...
09:52 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211206/14453748064/apple-notifies-more-victims-nso-malware-hacking-attempts.shtml
09:52 TR Bot; Notifies More Victims Of NSO Malware Hacking Attempts | Techdirt
09:54 TR News; Links 9/12/2021: Pgpool-II 4.3.0 and #EuropeanCommission Releases Free Software Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/european-commission-releases-free-software/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/09/european-commission-releases-free-software/
09:54 TR Bot; Links 9/12/2021: Pgpool-II 4.3.0 and European Commission Releases Free Software | Techrights
09:55 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Clearview Controversial Facial Recognition Company Calls Out Clearview, Demands It Ditch Its Database Of 10 Billion Scraped Images https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211120/18413947978/controversial-facial-recognition-company-calls-out-clearview-demands-it-ditch-database-10-billion-scraped-images.shtml
09:55 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211120/18413947978/controversial-facial-recognition-company-calls-out-clearview-demands-it-ditch-database-10-billion-scraped-images.shtml
09:55 TR Bot; Facial Recognition Company Calls Out Clearview, Demands It Ditch Its Database Of 10 Billion Scraped Images | Techdirt
09:57 TR News; #geminiProtocl proving handy for #programming or software development with #git gemini://git.omarpolo.com context: https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007667.html
09:57 TR Bot; [users] Any live gmnigit capsules?
09:58 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #MariamBarghouti Content Moderation Case Study: #Twitter Briefly Restricts Account Of Writer Reporting From The #WestBank (2021) https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211208/15383348082/content-moderation-case-study-twitter-briefly-restricts-account-writer-reporting-west-bank-2021.shtml
09:58 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211208/15383348082/content-moderation-case-study-twitter-briefly-restricts-account-writer-reporting-west-bank-2021.shtml
09:59 TR Bot; Moderation Case Study: Twitter Briefly Restricts Account Of Writer Reporting From The West Bank (2021) | Techdirt
10:03 CParadoxum_; schestowitz-TR: Hyperbola predicted this though: https://www.hyperbola.info/news/announcing-hyperbolabsd-roadmap/
10:03 TR Bot; Hyperbola - News: Announcing HyperbolaBSD Roadmap
10:03 CParadoxum_; Rust is non-free and relies on a centralized repo
10:04 schestowitz-TR; yes
10:04 CParadoxum_; Additionally, I've been more involved lately in Parabola GNU/Linux
10:04 CParadoxum_; The most problematic packages are Rust-based
10:04 CParadoxum_; Besides, it is (C++)++ basically
10:04 CParadoxum_; Word vomit of a syntax
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10:10 schestowitz-TR; c++ is standard
10:10 schestowitz-TR; rust is rust
10:10 schestowitz-TR; and it's dominated by certain companies
10:11 schestowitz; x https://www.zdnet.com/article/rust-takes-a-major-step-forward-as-linuxs-second-official-language/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
10:11 TR Bot; takes a major step forward as Linux's second official language | ZDNet
10:11 schestowitz; shilled by the corporates
10:11 schestowitz; zdnet
10:16 TR News; NEWS #CreativeCommons Principles for License Enforcement published https://creativecommons.org/2021/12/08/principles-for-license-enforcement-published/
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10:16 TR Bot; Principles for License Enforcement published - Creative Commons
10:16 TR News; NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #assange #wikileaks #uk #au Assange Christmas Card https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/assange-christmas-card/
10:16 TR Bot; Assange Christmas Card - Don't Extradite Assange
10:17 TR News; Capturing and Correcting the Perfect Video Color Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158908 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:17 TR Bot; Capturing and Correcting the Perfect Video Color | Tux Machines
10:20 CParadoxum_; schestowitz-TR: I noticed that, I mean, a year ago I wanted to learn Rust
10:20 TR News; NEWS #Tor #torproject New Release: #TorBrowser 11.0.2 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1102/
10:21 TR Bot; New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.2 | The Tor Project
10:21 CParadoxum_; But after realizing that the word vomit that is called "Rust syntax" is worse then Java and C++ combined, I bailed out
10:21 schestowitz-TR; I used to be pro-rust
10:21 schestowitz-TR; maybe 3-4 years ago
10:21 CParadoxum_; I guess I'll move to Hyperbola from Parabola now, I don't think OpenBSD will get rusted soon
10:22 schestowitz-TR; when it was mozilla and young
10:22 schestowitz-TR; and mozilla was not yet a collapsing incubator of Gulag
10:22 schestowitz-TR; then rust also started banning/censoring microsoft critics
10:22 schestowitz-TR; a turning point
10:23 schestowitz-TR; and people stated complaining about suppressing of speech there
10:23 schestowitz-TR; I had already complained about shithub at this point
10:23 schestowitz-TR; esp. after Microsoft had taken over
10:23 CParadoxum_; schestowitz-TR: It's a hammer looking for a nail: We have static analysis tools, libraries (linked at compile time) to check for leaks and undefined behavior...etc
10:23 schestowitz-TR; yes
10:23 schestowitz-TR; you can detect security issues
10:23 schestowitz-TR; it does not need to be built into the language
10:24 schestowitz-TR; people can intentionally write bad coded
10:24 schestowitz-TR; coe
10:24 CParadoxum_; After writing a lot of C code in the last year
10:24 schestowitz-TR; or even commit it for the NSA, obfuscated
10:24 schestowitz-TR; the solution is tooling, audit, better programming skills
10:24 CParadoxum_; I'm convinced, rust is made for JS idiots to do "systems programming"
10:24 schestowitz-TR; not 10k files form Microsoft shithub
10:24 schestowitz-TR; *from
10:24 CParadoxum_; Or as you said, for backdoor insertion
10:25 CParadoxum_; BTW, did you see this: https://github.com/mTvare6/hello-world.rs
10:25 TR Bot; - mTvare6/hello-world.rs: Memory safe, blazing fast, configurable, minimal hello world written in rust() in a few lines of code with few(1092) dependencies
10:25 CParadoxum_; rust in a nutshell
10:26 schestowitz-TR; "Why rust() while its only 1 line and depends on 600 c bind crates?"
10:26 schestowitz-TR; rust itself has many seucirty issues
10:26 schestowitz-TR; as noted before
10:26 schestowitz-TR; so it might claim to make your code safer
10:26 schestowitz-TR; but is rust itself safe?
10:27 schestowitz-TR; very high footprint and attack surface
10:27 TR News; NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Canada Charges Its Most Prolific Cybercriminal https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/12/canada-charges-its-most-prolific-cybercriminal/
10:27 TR Bot; Canada Charges Its Most Prolific Cybercriminal Krebs on Security
10:27 TR News; Jolla: Congrats UK, were back! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158909 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:27 TR Bot; Jolla: Congrats UK, were back! | Tux Machines
10:28 TR News; 13 Best Free and Open Source Build Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158910 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:28 TR Bot; 13 Best Free and Open Source Build Systems | Tux Machines
10:28 TR News; A deep dive into Raspberry Pi Zero 2 Ws power consumption Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158911 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
10:28 TR Bot; A deep dive into Raspberry Pi Zero 2 Ws power consumption | Tux Machines
10:32 immibis; activelow: why are you so fake-concerned about the health of politicians and journalists that you intend to murder 0.1% (5% * 2%) of them?
10:33 CParadoxum_; schestowitz-TR: Especially this stupid use of static-linking everywhere
10:33 CParadoxum_; It's part of a bigger problem though
10:33 CParadoxum_; Look at Go
10:33 CParadoxum_; "containerization", flatpak, snaps...etc
10:34 CParadoxum_; Security theatre
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10:43 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Privacy #Life360 Scandal Once Again Shows Nobody In The U.S. Actually Wants To Fix Our Rampant Privacy Problems https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211207/06234848069/life360-scandal-once-again-shows-nobody-us-actually-wants-to-fix-our-rampant-privacy-problems.shtml
10:43 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211207/06234848069/life360-scandal-once-again-shows-nobody-us-actually-wants-to-fix-our-rampant-privacy-problems.shtml
10:43 TR Bot; Scandal Once Again Shows Nobody In The U.S. Actually Wants To Fix Our Rampant Privacy Problems | Techdirt
10:45 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Copyright #Copyrights GulagTube Copyright Transparency Report Shows The Absurd Volume Of Copyright Claims It Gets https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211207/14303048073/youtube-copyright-transparency-report-shows-absurd-volume-copyright-claims-it-gets.shtml do not outsource video hosting
10:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211207/14303048073/youtube-copyright-transparency-report-shows-absurd-volume-copyright-claims-it-gets.shtml
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10:53 TR News; #linux #kernel + #rustlang = more #monopolies https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.heise.de/news/Linux-Kernel-Rust-Entwicklung-schreitet-mit-neuer-Edition-voran-6287775.html see http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/
10:54 schestowitz-TR; CParadoxum_: yes, exactly!!
10:55 CParadoxum_; This isn't good at all
10:55 CParadoxum_; Apparently Linux-Libre scrubs rust out for now
10:55 CParadoxum_; But I wonder how long they'll manage to hold back
10:56 CParadoxum_; HURD is still 32bit (but at least they might get broad driver support from linux 2.6 soon)
10:56 CParadoxum_; Hyperbola devs were on spot when they started working on moving to a BSD kernel two years ago, it seems...
10:57 schestowitz-TR; iirc, at first rustlang is for drivers
10:57 CParadoxum_; It's always like this
10:57 schestowitz-TR; so don't expect core stuff to be rewritten for the cargo vult
10:57 schestowitz-TR; cult
10:57 CParadoxum_; "You're schizophrenic! we won't take over the project"
10:57 schestowitz-TR; maybe IBM and Gulag are unable to recruit people who can code C
10:57 CParadoxum_; I think so
10:57 schestowitz-TR; or git
10:57 CParadoxum_; Good C programmers are becoming exceedingly rare
10:58 schestowitz-TR; git push
10:58 schestowitz-TR; "TOO HARD"
10:58 schestowitz-TR; I need Microsoft
10:58 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/
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10:58 TechrightsBot-tr; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
10:58 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/
10:58 TR Bot; The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights
10:59 CParadoxum_; Ironically, a mailing-list workflow with git is so much easier
10:59 schestowitz; x https://www.pcworld.com/article/558191/windows-pirates-are-losing-their-bitcoin-booty.html
10:59 TR Bot; pirates are losing their Bitcoin booty | PCWorld
10:59 schestowitz; "Windows pirates "
10:59 schestowitz; -Microsoft-funded IDG
11:00 CParadoxum_; And I was the kind of zoomer dev that used git UI frontends with shithub exclusively
11:00 CParadoxum_; The canary in the coalmine for me was the invasion of CoCs and banning
11:01 schestowitz-TR; there's that too
11:02 schestowitz-TR; but a side issue
11:02 schestowitz-TR; mozilla used to have greater control
11:02 schestowitz-TR; not they have "governance"
11:02 schestowitz-TR; check who runs it
11:02 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft, Amazon etc.
11:02 schestowitz-TR; Google
11:02 schestowitz-TR; Google incubated this in Mozilla
11:02 schestowitz-TR; and made a fake "security" group to concern-troll Linux and Linus
11:02 schestowitz-TR; until they went like, "OK", we give up..
11:02 schestowitz-TR; the media egged on the fake security coup
11:03 schestowitz-TR; until Linus, who was already besieged, stepped aside
11:03 schestowitz-TR; so the project leadership is now GAFAM by proxy
11:03 schestowitz-TR; mostly but not only LF+GitHub
11:03 schestowitz-TR; which are becoming almost one of the same
11:12 immibis; welcome to capitalism, those who have money make the rules
11:14 TR News; NEWS #Techdirt #Missouri Governor Still Lying About Reporters Who Uncovered Ridiculous Bad State Computer Security; Still Insists They Were Crackers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211207/18160848074/missouri-governor-still-lying-about-reporters-who-uncovered-ridiculous-bad-state-computer-security-still-insists-they-were.shtml
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11:14 TR Bot; Governor Still Lying About Reporters Who Uncovered Ridiculous Bad State Computer Security; Still Insists They Were Hackers | Techdirt
11:15 schestowitz-TR; immibis: and the rules make them more money
11:15 schestowitz-TR; which is a cyclic issue and a racket
11:15 schestowitz-TR; Free software, GNU etc. responded to it
11:15 schestowitz-TR; created a culture of sharing and copyleft
11:15 schestowitz-TR; but LF is a coup against that
11:18 TR News; NEWS #ProPublica #finance #taxevasion When Youre a Billionaire, Your Hobbies Can Slash Your Tax Bill https://www.propublica.org/article/when-youre-a-billionaire-your-hobbies-can-slash-your-tax-bill https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722
11:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/when-youre-a-billionaire-your-hobbies-can-slash-your-tax-bill
11:18 TR Bot; When Youre a Billionaire, Your Hobbies Can Slash Your Tax Bill ProPublica
11:18 TR Bot; rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters
11:19 psydroid2; there isn't anything to pirate about Windows
11:20 schestowitz-TR; everybody wants it!!!
11:20 schestowitz-TR; "setal it!!"
11:20 psydroid2; if only there was one thing I'd like to see is for pirates to destroy its source code and the headquarters it's hosted at
11:20 schestowitz-TR; "dude, it comes with most PCs"
11:20 schestowitz-TR; "and people REMOVE it"
11:20 psydroid2; I don't think there is even a zero value attached to it, but rather a negative value
11:20 psydroid2; hugely negative value
11:21 TR News; 1975: "Let's build the Internet, a network that can survive a nuclear war!" 2021: "Let's host everything on the server of this one discount bookshop!" https://mastodon.social/@thomasfuchs/107406952556742877
11:21 TR Bot; Thomas, Computer Wrangler: "1975: "Let's build the Internet, a network that c" - Mastodon
11:23 TR News; #linux #kernel contaminated by #monopolies and their #censorship regime (cannot criticise crimes of corporations) https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/12/08/1758203 see http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ "just a hobby" -> "just monopolies"
11:23 TR Bot; Rust Takes A Major Step Forward As Linux's Second Official Language - SoylentNews
11:23 TR Bot; The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights
11:23 TR News; "User "@trackertrial" has been suspended" https://nitter.eu/@trackertrial
11:23 TR Bot; Error | nitter
11:24 schestowitz-TR; what was trackertrial in Twitter/nitter about?
11:24 schestowitz-TR; The account has just been suspended it seems
11:25 TR News; "If somebody told me this PBR material was made procedurally with free software, I would have a hard time believing them. But it's true!" https://mastodon.social/@unfa/107408610567899352
11:25 TR Bot; unfa: "If somebody told me this PBR material was made pr" - Mastodon
11:30 TR News; "I feel there is a huge amount of potential in using the web to have decentralised app installations while also maintaining a high level of security. We dont have to parrot what #Apple does" https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107411758377168193
11:30 TR Bot; Aral Balkan: " and maybe even thinking about building systems " - Arals Mastodon
11:30 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 135.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 253.75
11:30 kingoffrance; CParadoxum_, yes, "schizophrenic" is used when you resist "merging" with someone :/
11:31 kingoffrance; thats another one of those "left" "right" "hungarian politics" things
11:31 Techrights-sec; can't recall; if it were important it would have been posted in a blog
11:32 TR News; "Decentralisation is a post-capitalist concept. Capitalism cannot tolerate true decentralisation (although it will happily sell you the illusion of decentralisation) because true decentralisation cuts out the middleman. And capitalism is the religion of the middleman." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107410493858038982
11:32 TR Bot; Aral Balkan: "Decentralisation is a post-capitalist concept. Ca" - Arals Mastodon
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11:33 TR News; "I believe the tor ecosystem would benefit from an operator ID (FQDN) that can not be spoofed" https://mastodon.social/@nusenu/107408265179799083
11:33 TR Bot; nusenu: "I believe the tor ecosystem would benefit from an" - Mastodon
11:33 TR News; " #FreeBSD actually managed to import their crazy wrapper around the Linux intel wifi driver which was first hinted at during #EuroBSDcon in Norway..." https://bsd.network/@stsp/107407787886707590
11:33 TR Bot; Stefan Sperling: "Wow. FreeBSD actually managed to import their cra" - BSD Network
11:34 TR News; "TIL "/dev/full" to test/simulate no space left on device. awesome. didn't know that one." https://mastodon.social/@sushee/107402092102170508
11:34 TR Bot; Su-Shee: "TIL "/dev/full" to test/simulate no space left on" - Mastodon
11:35 TR News; #GAFAM helps zealots https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107405018391231124 no kidding: http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
11:35 TR Bot; Aral Balkan: "As of 2020, various countries have laws which cr" - Arals Mastodon
11:35 TR Bot; Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
11:36 TR News; "It seems @mobian runs just fine on the @PINE64 #pinephonepro :)" https://mastodon.online/@awai/107413373316697671
11:36 TR Bot; A-wai: "It seems @mobian@fosstodon.org runs just fine on " - Mastodon
11:36 TR News; #de #pirateparty on #encryption https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107411850965121368
11:36 TR Bot; Breyer: "At 16:50 I will be discussing #encryption at the " - chaos.social
11:40 TR News; #billbc in its rush to #marketing of #patents gave false sense of optimism; estimated death "by end" of 2020/2021/pandemci in general. Look it up. SO MANY FALSE PREDICTIONS.
11:42 TR News; #billbc 2020: a vaccine will solve this. BillBC 2021: THIS vaccine will solve this. BillBC now: a THIRD vaccine will solve this. BillBC next year: there are too many scary variants! Bear with us. #patent #patents #monopolies #greed https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
11:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
11:42 TR Bot; While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation
11:44 TR News; #polio vaccine took about 10 years from inception/invention until mass vaccination. Not 10 months. Not 10 weeks. There were mistakes along the way and #clinicalTrials ... which helped garner public confidence.
11:46 TR News; The #corporateMedia should know that RE-defining "unvaccinated" and "anti-vaxxer" won't convince anybody and instead alienate fence sitters (almost all of whom are already vaccinated and do not reject #vaccination in general). http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/
11:46 TR Bot; Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People
11:48 TR News; Maybe blame the #cia et al with their terrible #vaccination ploys and not whoever #corporateMedia tells you to hate/blame https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(14)60900-4/fulltext
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11:48 TR Bot; DEFINE_ME
11:49 TR News; The #billBC wants us to get riled up in #socialcontrolmedia over some party of #tories but the real scandal is far bigger, and nobody wants to talk about it? http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/
11:49 TR Bot; Blog Archive Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young
11:50 TR News; Mass infection strategies help sell PCR tests and more jabs by punishing those who choose to self-isolate, making their surroundings far more dangerous http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/
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13:22 MinceR; lol @ hello-world.rs
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13:44 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158912 #Linux #TuxMachines
13:44 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
13:44 TR News; #KDEGear 21.12 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158913 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:44 TR Bot; KDE Gear 21.12 | Tux Machines
13:44 TR News; #KDEGear 21.12 Software Suite Released as a Massive Update, Heres Whats New Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158914 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
13:44 TR Bot; KDE Gear 21.12 Software Suite Released as a Massive Update, Heres Whats New | Tux Machines
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13:49 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: technically rust might be sort of OK
13:49 schestowitz-TR; but there are other issues
13:49 schestowitz-TR; size, deps, complexity, censorship, stewardshipo
13:49 schestowitz-TR; you get a whole parcel of problems
13:49 schestowitz-TR; C is C
13:50 schestowitz-TR; which sounds dumb
13:50 schestowitz-TR; bash has many implementationsalso
13:50 schestowitz-TR; like dash
13:50 schestowitz-TR; and bash stays bash
13:50 schestowitz-TR; there is no "council of censorship" for bash
13:52 TR News; WTH is "gaming monitors"? Oh wait. It's a spam 'aritcle' "As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases." #www IS SPAMFARM. Too much junk like this!! https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-gaming-monitors-with-excellent-color-profiles-and-responsiveness/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/
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13:52 TR Bot; 10 Best Gaming Monitors with Excellent Color Profiles
13:52 TR Bot; The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights
13:53 TR News; #Fossbytes now tells #gnu #linux users to install NON-FOSS, #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft PASSWORD STEALER!! http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/
13:53 TR Bot; Bruce Schneier: Microsoft Edge is Apparently a Password Stealer Too, Even on GNU/Linux | Techrights
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14:01 MinceR; no, dash is not an implementation of bash
14:01 schestowitz-TR; what is it technically?
14:01 hyperreal; good morning
14:01 TR News; How we use Linux Test Project to test and improve Linux | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-test-project #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
14:01 TR Bot; How we use Linux Test Project to test and improve Linux | Enable Sysadmin
14:01 hyperreal; anyone here on Twitter or Fedi?
14:01 schestowitz-TR; hyperreal: gm
14:02 schestowitz-TR; Fedi? Fed up :-)
14:02 schestowitz-TR; not a stable platform
14:02 schestowitz-TR; unless you self-host
14:02 schestowitz-TR; and then for one microblogging user you need to maintain a whole 'CMS'
14:02 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158915 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
14:02 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
14:02 MinceR; bash is a reimplementation of the Bourne shell
14:03 MinceR; dash is a port of a clone of the Bourne shell
14:03 schestowitz-TR; I see
14:03 schestowitz-TR; thanks for correcting
14:03 MinceR; dash aims at being small and fast; bash aims at being copyleft and rich in features
14:04 TR News; DevSecOps jobs: 3 ways to get hired | The Enterprisers Project https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/12/devsecops-jobs-3-ways-get-hired #enterprisersproject / #ibm #rehat posting this whole laying off loads of workers http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/
14:04 TR Bot; DevSecOps jobs: 3 ways to get hired | The Enterprisers Project
14:04 TR Bot; Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights
14:05 TR News; "This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community Platform Engineering) Team." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-december-6th-10th/ #fedora #ibm #redhat
14:05 TR Bot; CPE Weekly Update - Week of December 6th - 10th Fedora Community Blog
14:05 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: does ubuntu still default to dash?
14:05 MinceR; dunno
14:06 schestowitz-TR; iis, ubuntu aliased them
14:06 schestowitz-TR; so when you ran bash it did dash
14:06 schestowitz-TR; which you could see igf you checked aliases
14:06 schestowitz-TR; or which bash
14:07 schestowitz-TR; but that was ages ago
14:07 MinceR; maybe the other way around
14:07 schestowitz-TR; no, surely not
14:07 schestowitz-TR; let me check
14:08 schestowitz; https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/442510/how-to-use-bash-for-sh-in-ubuntu
14:08 TR Bot; shell script - How to use Bash for sh in Ubuntu - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
14:08 schestowitz; "To switch sh to bash (instead of dash, the default), reconfigure dash (yes, its somewhat counter-intuitive):"
14:08 schestowitz-TR; ah, so maybe sh was aliased
14:09 MinceR; sh was already aliased to dash in debian, iirc
14:10 TR News; Go to linux dot com, first word... #MICROSOFT ... #linuxfoundation has killed the site, spamnil wipes what he can off it... to get some views to his failing, spammy videos
14:11 XRevan86; schestowitz: In Debian (and Ubuntu) /bin/sh is a symlink to dash.
14:11 XRevan86; The default shell for users is bash though.
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14:12 XRevan86; The idea is very simple: if one wants bash features, one should use bash (like #!/bin/bash), but /bin/sh should be for POSIX shell uses.
14:12 activelow; it's an annoyance with gentoo, the entire shell scripting of theirs depends on bash
14:13 activelow; bash knows POSIXLY_CORRECT=1 variable, which too did break some gentoo scripts
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14:25 schestowitz-TR; XRevan86: so it's 'downstream' from Debian
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14:33 TR News; #Linuxcom Has Become Microsoft Spam and Spamnil Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/linux-com-spamfarm/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/09/linux-com-spamfarm/
14:33 TR Bot; Linux.com Has Become Microsoft Spam and Spamnil | Techrights
14:41 MinceR; (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/NFN2yu8.mp4
14:41 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/NFN2yu8.mp4
14:42 TR News; #linuxfoundation knows the caste system and funnels money/traffic to fakers and charlatans, at the expense of the reputation of #linux -- both as project and brand
14:44 TR News; #cat https://i.imgur.com/NFN2yu8.mp4
14:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/NFN2yu8.mp4
14:45 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158916 #GNU #Linux
14:45 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
14:47 TR News; #microsoft media operative Jordan Novet: "Microsoft Office prices going up 20% for some business clients unless they move from monthly to annual subscriptions" (so #clowncomputing is just a SUBMARINE)
14:49 TR News; "A DS_STORE file was left open on a #Microsoft-owned web server" https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/microsoft-error-could-open-the-door-to-the-most-damaging-phishing-scam-to-date see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/
14:49 TR Bot; error could open the door to the most damaging phishing scam to date | TechRadar
14:49 TR Bot; Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights
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14:51 TR News; "Microsofts $19.7B Nuance buy hits a snag with #EU #antitrust probe" but where was #europe and its regulatory authorities when #microsoft bought #github h Listening to Judas (selling us to MicrosofT) Zemlin? http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/
14:51 TR Bot; Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights
14:53 TR News; #BetaNews is #openwashing #microsoft today and it's helping the #googlebombing of "LINUX". Link omitted.
14:53 TR News; xkcd: The Last Molecule https://xkcd.com/2552 #xkcd
14:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2552
14:53 TR Bot; The Last Molecule
14:56 TR News; #letsencryption is #linuxfoundation is #monopolies ... same address, same accountant. See #irs site if you don't believe me. It's like when a business registers anew with the same address to proceed with bankruptcy and remain alive. LF is as dodgy as hell. Does IRS plan to revoke status? http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/linux-foundation-irs/
14:56 TR Bot; No Linux Foundation IRS Disclosures Since 2018 | Techrights
14:56 TR News; #letsencrypt is #linuxfoundation is #monopolies ... same address, same accountant. See #irs site if you don't believe me. It's like when a business registers anew with the same address to proceed with bankruptcy and remain alive. LF is as dodgy as hell. Does IRS plan to revoke status? http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/linux-foundation-irs/
14:58 TR News; Many strange things happened in #linuxfoundation this past week and it seems like they may be hiding something (mostly by creating lots of commotion and positive-sounding noise) http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
14:58 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
14:59 TR News; Social media giants have released their Compliance Reports for the month of September. Weve analysed them. https://internetfreedom.in/ssmis-compliance-reports-for-september/ #internetfreedom #internet #gafam #surveillance #espionage
14:59 Alternative link; Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/ssmis-compliance-reports-for-september/
14:59 TR Bot; Social media giants have released their Compliance Reports for the month of September. Weve analysed them.
15:00 TR News; Remember that #youtube and #twitter are "TAKEDOWN PLATFORMS" -- usually (mis)used by the rich and powerful to silence or deploatform their exposers, however factual they may be
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15:03 CrystalMath; MinceR: are you still lightbringer on freenode?
15:03 MinceR; yes
15:03 schestowitz-TR; seems like a zombienet
15:04 TR News; Blender 3 comes with great improvements and changes at the GPU level http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158680#comment-32021
15:04 TR Bot; Blender 3.0 Released as a Massive Update with Many New Features and Improvements | Tux Machines
15:04 MinceR; braaaaaaaaaaains
15:05 schestowitz-TR; not even that ;'-)
15:05 schestowitz-TR; led by pothead, root
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15:06 TR News; Soon enough #mozilla will have no "PEOPLE" left... rearranging the chair on this Titanic deck https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/kristen-trubey-mozillas-new-chief-people-officer/
15:06 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/kristen-trubey-mozillas-new-chief-people-officer/
15:06 TR Bot; Kristen Trubey, Mozillas New Chief People Officer
15:07 TR News; "Have received feedback that Balsa email client does not work in EasyOS 3.1.13. It's email filtering is pretty weak anyway, so reckon that I will go over to Claws Mail. Claws Mail is optionally able to view HTML emails by the 'litehtml' library. Very interesting, the developer of litehtml also has a little browser, named 'litebrowser'..." https://bkhome.org/news/202112/litehtml-compiled-in-openembedded.html
15:07 TR Bot; litehtml compiled in OpenEmbedded
15:08 TR News; Companies that work on #nsa #backdoors are lecturing us on #security ?? https://kubernetes.io/blog/2021/12/09/pod-security-admission-beta/
15:08 TR Bot; Pod Security Graduates to Beta | Kubernetes
15:09 activelow; ^ NSA does not require backdoors
15:09 schestowitz-TR; true
15:09 activelow; they got a front door wherever they require it
15:09 schestowitz-TR; bug doors are enough
15:10 schestowitz-TR; just make sure companies hire incompetent programmers
15:10 schestowitz-TR; or add moles who are
15:10 schestowitz-TR; activelow: the front doors, too
15:10 schestowitz-TR; we wrote about this in techrights
15:10 schestowitz-TR; but usually that's for (dis)services
15:11 activelow; still fighting with cross-compiler toolchain setup here
15:11 activelow; reminds me of ken-thompson hack ...
15:11 schestowitz-TR; when they produce some software you run 'natively' on your OS they need a link from Ethernet/wifi to your filesystem
15:11 schestowitz-TR; they want all computer users to be mere "tenants"
15:11 schestowitz-TR; and all people in the world to be computer users
15:11 activelow; i consider most of the tooling (compilers, linkers, make, autotools, package management) broken by design
15:11 schestowitz-TR; "inclusivity"
15:12 schestowitz-TR; so that the empire has them all as tenants, slaves
15:12 schestowitz-TR; no private, no secrets
15:12 schestowitz-TR; activelow: they've certainly become too complex
15:12 activelow; no offense, towards RMS, however i do disagree with him what free software was
15:12 schestowitz-TR; nobody can study them
15:12 schestowitz-TR; Linus does not read 500,000 lines of code of some AMD drivers
15:12 schestowitz-TR; he just signs that off based on trust
15:13 schestowitz-TR; code that only employees of AMD studied
15:13 schestowitz-TR; many eyes on the ball
15:13 schestowitz-TR; or the code
15:13 schestowitz-TR; but all from the same company
15:13 schestowitz-TR; that sells the same thing
15:13 activelow; i consider situation with kernel not as critical as it is with GCC/binutils/autotools/make (all GNU!)
15:13 schestowitz-TR; activelow: RMS is no clergy
15:13 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21120823
15:13 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6067399)
15:13 schestowitz-TR; you are free to not agree
15:13 schestowitz-TR; just don't insinuate orgs should kick out their own founders
15:14 activelow; because, with Linux kernel alot of the bloat can be removed; however it is impossible to remove GCC/binutils/autotools/make and the related chaos
15:14 schestowitz-TR; see LF, FSF (post-coup), and EFF (afteer Barlow died)
15:14 immibis_; does being a founder grant special permissions?
15:14 schestowitz-TR; yes
15:14 schestowitz-TR; more special than none
15:14 schestowitz-TR; because orgs can lose direction
15:14 schestowitz-TR; and founders, like tim b-l, have some special status
15:15 schestowitz-TR; tim b-l let us down
15:16 immibis_; so if RMS suddenly decides that free software is a cute name for puppies and kittens he should be allowed to convert the FSF into the puppies and kittens foundation?
15:16 activelow; the entire internet and tech chaos, it is so severe, i wouldn't want to depend on it anymore at all
15:16 immibis_; or are there limits?
15:16 activelow; for example, imagine, i keep my books, maths, electronics, physics, and some scientific calculator
15:16 immibis_; activelow: did you get vaccinated yet?
15:16 schestowitz-TR; immibis_: improbable
15:16 activelow; i can keep this for decades; without any update required
15:16 immibis_; schestowitz-TR: "if"
15:16 schestowitz-TR; on RMS
15:17 activelow; however, if I archived any GNU/linux system, and wanted to use it as a stable system a decade later
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15:17 activelow; almost none of the internet is readable anymore at all, most scientific publications accessible
15:17 activelow; software doesn't compile anymore (due to some c++ standard "improvement" and whatnot)
15:18 activelow; *most scientific publications in-accessible
15:18 activelow; get a raspi4 and boot it with linux-2.6? probably out of luck with this entirely.
15:19 activelow; it is simply insane what they did, and they're proud of it, with their "progress" and "innovation"
15:19 activelow; immibis_: vaccinated with what?
15:22 schestowitz-TR; 'the' vaccine(r)
15:22 schestowitz-TR; the bestSeller(TM)
15:22 schestowitz-TR; many patents
15:23 *psydroid2 is waiting for The Vaccinator movie
15:23 activelow; schestowitz-TR: are you sure? because argument from german government was "patents" weren't the most critical concern for health care in distant regions
15:24 schestowitz-TR; 104,000 NHS workers in the UK reject the covid-19 vaccines
15:24 immibis_; activelow: any coronavirus vaccine according to the recommendations of a real doctor
15:24 schestowitz-TR; the NHS even offered them any vaccination of their choice, IIRC
15:24 immibis_; schestowitz-TR: because of patents or because they are brainwashed?
15:24 immibis_; i think the latter
15:24 *immibis_ is now known as immibis
15:24 *immibis is now known as GetVaccinated
15:25 activelow; immibis_: there isn't any "corna vaccine" which was explicitely recommended by german "vaccination commission"
15:25 activelow; it is a propaganda lie of politics and their fake news apparatus any of this was "recommended"
15:25 MinceR; corn vaccine
15:26 activelow; however, check for yourself what "vaccination commission" "recommends"; and btw. this commission does NOT approve any vaccine such as EMA does, it verifies if a vaccine should be administiered and to whom
15:28 TR News; Don't let the #linuxfoundation TELL YOU WHAT IT IS. YOU NEED TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF; they won't help you. http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
15:28 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
15:28 activelow; and the "recommendation" is this: loose quote "it's approved and can be applied if specific medical indications exist"; it isn't recommend for children, and none of it was recommended to inject into the masses either.
15:29 *schestowitz-TR thinks activelow is being baited into making a political argument; it's a trap
15:30 MinceR; https://i.insider.com/5703cb0d9105842a008babcf?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp
15:30 Alternative link; Cloudflare: insider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.insider.com/5703cb0d9105842a008babcf?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp
15:30 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 150.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 253.67
15:30 TR News; This past hour #uk gov. released the weekly report, based on #nhs data, on excess deaths across England https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022 study the DATA, do not follow media (it has biases, agenda)
15:30 TR Bot; all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK
15:31 activelow; however, the vaccination commission too must be cautious, because it cannot verify if any *individual* of a person with specific medical indication existed to administer an EMA approved vaccine or not
15:32 TR News; This past week in #england excess death detected in children under 5 (page 2, top) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/gover
15:32 Alternative link; Cloudflare: service.gov.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/gover
15:32 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/gover )
15:32 activelow; it is medical doctors who had to decide upon this, which again contradicts the entire political propaganda scam to agitate for mass injections inside tents outside soccer stadiums
15:33 activelow; which isn't only not recommended, this is an illegal and *CRIMINAL* procedure; in particular if politicians and fake news agitate for any medical routine which could be harmful to public health
15:35 TR News; The way I'm reading the #nhs data (there's always a backlog of deaths not yet registered), this year in November-December #england excess mortality rate is same as or worse than analogous period a year ago (before vaccination). Sure, we have fewer restrictions now.
15:35 schestowitz-TR; isak: I study the dara
15:35 schestowitz-TR; *data
15:35 schestowitz-TR; my phd is in medical biophysics, with focus on statistical science
15:36 schestowitz-TR; like studying and modeling image data
15:36 schestowitz-TR; as it stands, we need better vacines
15:36 schestowitz-TR; no pointing pushing this to toddlers and schoolgoers
15:36 schestowitz-TR; it's just a box-ticking exercise
15:36 schestowitz-TR; which will accomplish nothing
15:36 schestowitz-TR; but the BBC's owner would profit from it
15:37 schestowitz-TR; if consenting adults want to take it, fine=
15:37 schestowitz-TR; makes sense
15:37 schestowitz-TR; hospitalisation rates have improves
15:37 schestowitz-TR; improved
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15:38 schestowitz-TR; right now we have HALF the number of covid-19 patients in hospital that we had Dec 8th last year
15:38 schestowitz-TR; I checked last night
15:38 activelow; "herd immunity"
15:39 schestowitz-TR; we can try to convince more people to take it
15:39 schestowitz-TR; based on information
15:39 schestowitz-TR; without insulting them
15:39 schestowitz-TR; it's counter-productive
15:39 schestowitz-TR; my stance:
15:39 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/
15:39 TR Bot; Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People
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15:41 TR News; #ZorinOS 16 Lite Review - Perfect Combination of Beauty, Performance and Simplicity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158917 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:41 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Lite Review - Perfect Combination of Beauty, Performance and Simplicity | Tux Machines
15:41 TR News; Mozilla/Web: litebrowser, Mozillas New Chief People Officer, and Tor Browser 11.0.2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158918 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:41 TR Bot; Mozilla/Web: litebrowser, Mozillas New Chief People Officer, and Tor Browser 11.0.2 | Tux Machines
15:43 TR News; Go to a site called #Linuxcom , first word is MICROSOFT and its just a #spamfarm promoting Spamnils videos; he wipes what he can off that site, which had taken decades to make (and build reputation for); The #LinuxFoundation has killed the news site, in spite of having no cash deficit http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/linux-com-spamfarm/
15:43 TR Bot; Linux.com Has Become Microsoft Spam and Spamnil | Techrights
15:43 MinceR; https://ircz.de/p/21120735
15:43 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6065209)
15:48 TR News; Zorin OS 16 Lite is the Windows 11 alternative youve been waiting for http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158878#comment-32024
15:48 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Celebrates More Than 1 Million Downloads with Lite Edition | Tux Machines
15:49 TR News; #BSDNow 432: Introducing OpenZFS 3.0 - Yeah https://www.bsdnow.tv/432 #bsd #unix
15:49 TR Bot; BSD Now 432: Introducing OpenZFS 3.0 - Yeah
15:55 activelow; schestowitz: your statement doesn't convince me either, in particular "as a fallback testing exists"
15:56 activelow; because, current situation is: no permission to work nor travel with public transportation
15:56 schestowitz-TR; i did not try to convince you ^_^
15:56 activelow; and the "testing" routine is a scam, they didn't at least measure fever!!!!!
15:56 schestowitz-TR; activelow: yes, and i oppose such policies
15:56 schestowitz-TR; I think for air travel mandatory testing is reasonable
15:56 activelow; otherwise i do not see any benefit of any employer to collect genetic samples of mine or keeping any medical record
15:56 schestowitz-TR; but I don't understand why crossing border is a thing
15:56 schestowitz-TR; I mean, two comtaminated countries
15:57 schestowitz-TR; if you pass from one to another
15:57 schestowitz-TR; what's the big deal?
15:57 schestowitz-TR; hardly diffferent from a bus rise
15:57 schestowitz-TR; *ride
15:57 schestowitz-TR; unless one country is very contaminated and the other almost eradicated the virus
15:57 TR News; Audiocasts/Shows: KDE News, BSDNow, the Linux Link Tech Show Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158919 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:57 TR Bot; Audiocasts/Shows: KDE News, BSDNow, the Linux Link Tech Show | Tux Machines
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15:58 schestowitz-TR; activelow: it normalises bad practices
15:58 schestowitz-TR; TSA was one
15:58 schestowitz-TR; subjecting us to groping
15:58 schestowitz-TR; to travel outside the country
15:58 schestowitz-TR; soon, saliva tests
15:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe soon anal probes too
15:58 schestowitz-TR; "show me your anal paper, please"
15:59 schestowitz-TR; "bitte pappier"
15:59 TR News; The #EuropeanCommission Will Make its Software Solutions Open Source for Public Benefit Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158920 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
15:59 TR Bot; The European Commission Will Make its Software Solutions Open Source for Public Benefit | Tux Machines
16:00 activelow; Lauterbach argued this: March 2022 *everyone* will be either vaccinated, recovered, or dead
16:01 schestowitz-TR; I'm vaccinated
16:01 SomeH4x0r; I prefer dead then
16:01 schestowitz-TR; you are too
16:01 schestowitz-TR; you can also be vaccinated and recovered at the same time
16:01 schestowitz-TR; you can also be vaccinated and dead
16:01 schestowitz-TR; so it's a dumb sound bite
16:01 SomeH4x0r; fuck this society, if there is no revolution, I kill myself and that's all
16:01 schestowitz-TR; sounds good on the surface
16:01 activelow; i do not accept the "vaccination status" as any legal basis currently
16:02 SomeH4x0r; I don't want to participate in this shit
16:02 activelow; schestowitz-TR: reminder, in east-germany the "vaccination passport" was rewritten twice already
16:02 schestowitz-TR; but it's not about vaccinated per se
16:02 schestowitz-TR; it's about other isuse
16:02 schestowitz-TR; like government control
16:02 schestowitz-TR; and obedience
16:02 schestowitz-TR; there are side issues
16:02 schestowitz-TR; like patent monopolies
16:02 schestowitz-TR; grifting
16:03 schestowitz-TR; the R&D scam (unis doing rsearch with tax money, then privatising it or passing it to patent trolls) is not new
16:03 activelow; and currently the "recovered" status requires a PCR test (one only)
16:03 schestowitz-TR; it just resurfaces now in the context of covid-19
16:03 schestowitz-TR; but the greater questions aren't to do with patents
16:03 schestowitz-TR; but also quality of clinical trials
16:03 activelow; and this test is expensive, and must be repeated if it didn't show some anti-body or whatever other spooky thing
16:03 schestowitz-TR; people trusted vaccination, except for FRINGE GROUPS, for many decades
16:04 schestowitz-TR; based on the strict regulations associated with careful double-blind tests
16:04 schestowitz-TR; now they want to toss all that away
16:04 schestowitz-TR; it also serves to distract from other crises
16:04 schestowitz-TR; media stopped talking as much asbout thje climate crisis
16:05 schestowitz-TR; as pointed out by environmentalist
16:05 schestowitz-TR; it was all just covid covid covid
16:05 activelow; the mandatory testing is at least as evil as vaccination, because it can be impossible to acquire the "recovered" status
16:05 activelow; and then, this test had to be repeated indefinitely
16:05 schestowitz-TR; and also debates about overpopulation are almost impermissible
16:05 activelow; schestowitz-TR: not overpopulation, illegal migration is the first and foremost one
16:05 schestowitz-TR; those are related
16:06 activelow; yes
16:06 schestowitz-TR; some escape a lack of food security
16:06 schestowitz-TR; but the media does not explain this
16:06 schestowitz-TR; in conga/dr conga (of today) there were genocides over this
16:06 schestowitz-TR; with zaire/rwanda/darfour examples
16:06 schestowitz-TR; but they don't have much oil
16:06 schestowitz-TR; so media never cared much
16:07 schestowitz-TR; "they're just primitive"
16:07 schestowitz-TR; there were waves of stavation there
16:07 schestowitz-TR; populations tripled
16:07 activelow; same occured in Europe for centuries
16:07 schestowitz-TR; and european went to america
16:07 schestowitz-TR; mostly
16:07 schestowitz-TR; also some african colonies
16:07 schestowitz-TR; south africa, argentina, brazil
16:08 schestowitz-TR; so the european population just added territories
16:09 schestowitz-TR; the chinese did this in southeast asia
16:09 activelow; "European" is misnomer too
16:09 schestowitz-TR; indians to a lesser extent
16:10 schestowitz-TR; looking for opportunities outside the country
16:10 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste
16:10 TR Bot; Caste - Wikipedia
16:11 activelow; the roman-catholic sphere is far less closely related to northern Europe then it was to south-east semitic religious and cultural spheres; in particular language
16:12 activelow; however, that's history, related to reformation era, radical reformation, and settlers migrating to north-america
16:13 activelow; schestowitz-TR: the vaccination campaign reminds me of "forced baptism" which radical reformers rejected 500years ago already
16:14 schestowitz; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemania
16:14 TR Bot; Alamannia - Wikipedia
16:14 activelow; in east germany infant baptism is rejected almost always by almost everyone
16:14 activelow; maybe, that's why, it is no coincidence saxony again rebels most pronounced
16:15 MinceR; https://thelanguagenerds.com/2020/the-worst-grammar-spelling-fails-caught-the-grammar-police/
16:15 TR Bot; The Worst Grammar And Spelling Fails Caught By The Grammar Police.
16:16 activelow; because, whowever controls "baptism" (vaccination), then controls the entire population
16:16 schestowitz-TR; bad analogy
16:16 schestowitz-TR; the vaccines are not a sect
16:16 activelow; schestowitz: maybe that's why EMA did NOT approve the russian Sputnik-V
16:17 activelow; schestowitz-TR: the recent vaccination campaign is a politically motivated propaganda scam by corrupt and murderous criminals who hijacked government in germany
16:17 activelow; and that's why it isn't any arbitrary analogy, forced baptism and vaccination are almost identical with their political practice and consequences
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16:18 schestowitz-TR; activelow: it has been politicised
16:19 schestowitz-TR; but the vaccines themselves are caputalism
16:19 schestowitz-TR; not politics
16:19 schestowitz-TR; I doubt their scientific merit too
16:19 schestowitz-TR; because they don't invent much
16:19 schestowitz-TR; Russia was first to market
16:19 schestowitz-TR; quality does not matter muc
16:19 activelow; i am referring to the recent fake news propaganda campaign specifically
16:19 schestowitz-TR; politicised
16:19 schestowitz-TR; bad
16:19 schestowitz-TR; and unhelpful
16:19 activelow; that's why discussing medical concerns doesn't help with udnerstanding, because it is politically motivated propaganda scam
16:20 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/
16:20 TR Bot; Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People
16:20 schestowitz; what's my point ^^
16:20 schestowitz; they only PUT OFF people
16:20 schestowitz; by making it about politics
16:20 activelow; same with the supposed "climate change" quackery, it isn't scientific nor motivated by ecologocial concerns
16:20 schestowitz-TR; the climate does change
16:20 schestowitz-TR; it's not quackery
16:20 schestowitz-TR; but that too got politicised
16:20 schestowitz-TR; for political gain
16:20 activelow; no schestowitz, the pandemic and vaccination campaign was politically motivated incitement to hatred from the beginning ("china virus")
16:21 MinceR; 09 171627 < activelow> schestowitz: maybe that's why EMA did NOT approve the russian Sputnik-V
16:21 MinceR; they did not approve sputnik v because the russians couldn't be arsed to submit documentation
16:21 schestowitz-TR; EMA is politicised
16:21 MinceR; probably because they know their crap will never pass scrutiny
16:21 schestowitz-TR; EU
16:21 schestowitz-TR; and Russia is "official enemy"
16:21 schestowitz-TR; US FDA is vendor-captures
16:21 schestowitz-TR; captured
16:21 MinceR; which vendor?
16:21 schestowitz-TR; which is a related problem
16:22 activelow; MinceR: you're sure about this? i remember the russians even offered support with construction of pharmaceutical production facilities.
16:22 MinceR; pretty sure
16:22 schestowitz-TR; in the US the corporations or their chief control the government compltely
16:22 CParadoxum_; If I may add to the discussion
16:23 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: re FDA, collective interest, shared interest, of lobbyists for patent cartel
16:23 schestowitz-TR; to keep the price of "health" and medication in the US laughably high
16:23 CParadoxum_; I have no doubt that China was working on a biological weapon or at the very least doing research on countering one
16:23 schestowitz-TR; so does the west
16:24 schestowitz-TR; probably russia too
16:24 schestowitz-TR; it's not illegal
16:24 CParadoxum_; And they did it irresponsibly (which is hardly surprising if you've ever worked with mainline Chinese)
16:24 CParadoxum_; The problem isn't legality or lack thereof
16:24 CParadoxum_; It's the handling
16:24 CParadoxum_; Scientists, especially well-funded ones, tend to get sloppy
16:25 schestowitz-TR; well, legality SHOULD be an issue
16:25 schestowitz-TR; like land mines are
16:25 schestowitz-TR; but trump made them legal again
16:25 schestowitz-TR; but ignoring the laws associated with it
16:25 CParadoxum_; Not long ago we had within two years two labs blowing up in *different* universities
16:25 schestowitz-TR; Geneva something. Accord? Convention?
16:25 schestowitz-TR; or some declaration
16:25 schestowitz-TR; Biden keeps it the same
16:25 schestowitz-TR; with biological weapons, it goes way bakc
16:25 schestowitz-TR; *back
16:26 CParadoxum_; The US is an oligarchy at this point
16:26 schestowitz-TR; unlike nukes you can lob it at the enemy without getting any back
16:26 MinceR; seems to me stalinists in general tend to be particularly sloppy
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16:26 schestowitz-TR; you can even genetically engineer it so that your race/nation/people are less susceptible to it
16:26 CParadoxum_; MinceR: get communist fast, basically
16:26 schestowitz-TR; talking of BIOLOGICAL WEAPON, not CHEMICAL
16:26 CParadoxum_; Yh
16:26 MinceR; CParadoxum_: move fast and break things?
16:27 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: the bio-Chernobyl?
16:27 MinceR; yeah
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16:27 schestowitz-TR; rianne's dead is a longtime chemist
16:27 schestowitz-TR; and he thinks china was sloppy handling this
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16:27 CParadoxum_; MinceR: fucking hell, are startups basically small Stalins? XD
16:27 schestowitz-TR; and the "market" (or "bat") story is gobbledegook
16:27 MinceR; also, red china expected to be better at restricting spread of disease via totalitarianism, and spreading totalitarianism is probably a win for them
16:27 MinceR; CParadoxum_: hopefully not
16:27 schestowitz-TR; *sloppily
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16:28 schestowitz-TR; btw, Spanish flu came from the US
16:28 schestowitz-TR; not intentionally
16:28 schestowitz-TR; some mutations from a farmland they suppose
16:28 schestowitz-TR; in the bible belt
16:29 schestowitz; https://www.history.com/pandemics
16:29 TR Bot; - HISTORY
16:29 schestowitz; https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/pandemics-timeline
16:29 TR Bot; That Changed History: Timeline - HISTORY
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16:29 CParadoxum_; schestowitz-TR: only an idiot would take that story at face-value, you want to tell me that the highest security biolab in China, the only place they'd work on biological weapons where they dealt with BAT CORONAVIRUSES was less than 1Km from the market - and that the world's largest pandemic since the Spanish Flu started in that market instead?
16:30 CParadoxum_; Yh, it was called the Spanish flu because Spain was the only country that didn't try to hide it
16:30 schestowitz-TR; neutral
16:30 schestowitz-TR; not hide
16:30 schestowitz-TR; it was neutral in the war, iirc
16:30 schestowitz-TR; and so many soldiers landed thee
16:30 schestowitz-TR; *there
16:30 schestowitz-TR; inc. from usland
16:31 activelow; just because a chinese lab discovered anything doesn't mean it's the country of origin
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16:31 TR Bot; Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
16:31 schestowitz-TR; activelow: I saw no claims disputing patient zero being in china
16:31 schestowitz-TR; I saw such claims re MEGATRON
16:31 activelow; they immediately jumped to this conclusion, which was the moment when i lost patience with Trump
16:31 schestowitz-TR; insinuating it may predate discovery in S Africa
16:32 schestowitz-TR; and maybe found first in Europe
16:32 MinceR; red china did everything they could to prevent figuring out where SARS-CoV-2 first infected humans
16:32 schestowitz-TR; it's easier to blame less hygienic countries in Africa or India
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16:32 MinceR; they're dishonest like the russian empire
16:32 MinceR; they're both a bunch of lying totalitarian assholes
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16:32 MinceR; and i'm supposed to trust their vaccines?
16:33 schestowitz-TR; Russia is being USSR
16:33 schestowitz-TR; with a new face
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16:33 schestowitz-TR; democratic putin
16:33 MinceR; indeed
16:33 schestowitz-TR; Federasheeen
16:33 MinceR; and a slightly different economical organization
16:33 activelow; iirc Russia/Putin weren't dishonest about their vaccine; however rarely anyting is reported about it, Sputnik-V
16:33 MinceR; hoping they don't crash their economy again
16:33 activelow; anyway, it is politically motivated propaganda, and incitement to hatred from the beginning
16:33 kingoffrance; its saving face
16:33 MinceR; yeah
16:34 MinceR; if someone doesn't like what i like, they must be HATERS!
16:34 schestowitz-TR; our economy collapsed at least 13 years ago
16:34 schestowitz-TR; at least
16:34 kingoffrance; us and republicans embraced perestroika. they decided to 180 and rewrite history
16:34 schestowitz-TR; too much financialisation
16:34 schestowitz-TR; loans given with no collaterals
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16:34 schestowitz-TR; except illusionary
16:34 activelow; similar to when Roman Catholic Church enforced infant baptism in germany 500years ago and before, which is nowadays vaccination of children
16:34 kingoffrance; "socialist democrats" "the left" ..it was the "left" that protested "globalism"
16:34 schestowitz-TR; it's a lot easier for government to blame "NATURE" and "the unvaccinated"
16:34 MinceR; what does baptism have to do with vaccination?
16:34 schestowitz-TR; even when the current vaccines have low efficacy
16:35 activelow; it is both a political utility to dictate and enslave the population, by whoever controls the holy water or miracle tinctures
16:35 MinceR; baptism is a formal introduction into a cult; vaccination is showing your immune system what a pathogen looks like so it can protect you
16:35 schestowitz-TR; I agree with MinceR
16:35 activelow; roman catholic church doesn't employ non-baptised either, they only enslave them
16:35 schestowitz-TR; bringing religious analogies in does not help
16:35 schestowitz-TR; like antivax religious sects
16:36 schestowitz-TR; the REAL "antivaxX"
16:36 activelow; it does help alot, because this is the only plausible explanation of what's happening
16:36 activelow; and it isn't me who granted german "order of merit" to Pfizer staff
16:36 schestowitz-TR; the false belief the vaccines change the mind and stuff... or allegiances to a god
16:37 activelow; btw. wasn't Biden Roman Catholic?
16:37 kingoffrance; believe so. and trump went to some jesuit school
16:37 MinceR; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
16:37 TR Bot; Sperm is Sacred - Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - YouTube
16:38 kingoffrance; lol MinceR
16:41 kingoffrance; so is billy gates supposedly
16:46 MinceR; (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21120817
16:46 TR Bot; IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6067270)
16:47 schestowitz-TR; [16:41] <kingoffrance> so is billy gates supposedly
16:47 schestowitz-TR; ask jennifer gates
16:48 schestowitz; https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jennifer-gates-vaccine-bill-covid-implant-b1801635.html
16:48 Alternative link; Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/jennifer-gates-vaccine-bill-covid-implant-b1801635.html
16:48 TR Bot; Bill Gatess daughter Jennifer gets first vaccine dose and jokes it did not implant my genius father into my brain | The Independent
16:48 schestowitz; MinceR: nice cat
16:49 schestowitz; incestuous jokes are not funny
16:49 schestowitz; https://www.businessinsider.com/stormy-daniels-trump-ivanka-daughter-2018-3?r=US&IR=T
16:49 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/stormy-daniels-trump-ivanka-daughter-2018-3?r=US&IR=T
16:49 TR Bot; Stormy Daniels Says Trump Told Her 'You Remind Me of My Daughter'
16:49 schestowitz; trump and gates
16:49 schestowitz; frequest flyers in lolita express
16:49 schestowitz; go figure
16:49 MinceR; the aristocrats!
16:49 schestowitz; the media only cares about one trial at the moment
16:50 schestowitz; gross link:
16:50 schestowitz; https://www.theregister.com/2007/07/04/gates_poll/
16:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2007/07/04/gates_poll/
16:50 TR Bot; Chinese women crave Bill Gates' sperm The Register
16:50 schestowitz; https://www.engadget.com/2007-07-03-bill-gates-sperm-second-most-wanted-in-china.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMTHv_XSjuN1aQSkpS9w2C7hqpFJqWF86rJP61tVVn2_8g-eIBsLl2YdED72FRv1W8seDWASa3oZxoMMPCtYrrWTZpBYNaXP4DagpSMgdkFCjh5Nj9ua0dBvozSBOoUufe_lfd59Bfw6OGM_hJiokXf4bRye3TFilbTTqimiEP1T
16:50 TR Bot; Gates' sperm: second most-wanted in China | Engadget
16:50 schestowitz; https://www.engadget.com/2007-07-03-bill-gates-sperm-second-most-wanted-in-china.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMTHv_XSjuN1aQSkpS9w2C7hqpFJqWF86rJP61tVVn2_8g-eIBsLl2YdED72FRv1W8seDWASa3oZxoMMPCtYrrWTZpBYNaXP4DagpSMgdkFCjh5Nj9ua0dBvozSBOoUufe_lfd59Bfw6OGM_hJiokXf4bRye3TFilbTTqimiEP1Thttps://foreignpolicy.com/2007/07/30/the-sperm-donors-chinese-women-want-most/
16:51 TR Bot; Gates' sperm: second most-wanted in China | Engadget
16:51 schestowitz; https://foreignpolicy.com/2007/07/30/the-sperm-donors-chinese-women-want-most/
16:51 TR Bot; The sperm donors Chinese women want most Foreign Policy
16:51 schestowitz; ^^ corporate media
16:51 schestowitz; sperm articles
16:51 schestowitz; go figure
16:51 schestowitz; idiots..
16:52 schestowitz; .maybe they think a spern has a "born to a Maxwell billionaire family" DNA in it
16:52 GetVaccinated; activelow: do you believe in free software? because that is equally political
16:52 schestowitz; or "mommy gets this sperm IBM contract" genetics
16:53 schestowitz; elon musk still treats him employees like his dad treat his slaves
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16:53 schestowitz; in the emeand mine in south africa
16:53 schestowitz; so-called 'success' stories who never became rich but were born rich
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16:53 schestowitz; the media helps change history for them
16:53 schestowitz; and then sells us their sperm
16:53 schestowitz; "sperm crave" journalism
16:54 schestowitz; "my genius father into my brain"
16:54 schestowitz; your 'genius' grandma
16:54 schestowitz; who was born to a banking baroin
16:54 schestowitz; and political class of Seattle
16:54 schestowitz; *baron
16:54 schestowitz; K&L gates aside
16:55 schestowitz; marrying without one's class
16:55 schestowitz; "love" being a side issue
16:55 schestowitz; "we can learn to have sex, eventually"
16:55 schestowitz; "first the bank"
16:56 schestowitz; activelow: the vaccines aren't politics or religion
16:56 schestowitz; some became nationalism
16:56 schestowitz; partly because of patents
16:56 schestowitz; the science there isn't too special
16:56 schestowitz; RNA hype aside
16:56 schestowitz; 1990s
16:56 schestowitz; or mRMA
16:56 schestowitz; which the taxpayers funded BTW
16:56 schestowitz; it ought to be in the commons
16:57 schestowitz; activelow: the politicians who use the pandemic to score political points (we have them here too) are usually not scientists
16:57 schestowitz; maybe science it, to them, something they last did in elementary school
16:57 schestowitz; maybe they even knew parts of the periodic table, but that was a long time ago
16:57 schestowitz; the lobbyists convince them of miracles
16:58 schestowitz; the media is on their side
16:58 schestowitz; corrupted in part by the funding/advertising partners
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17:00 TR News; #Ubuntu 22.04 minimum requirements https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-22-04-minimum-requirements#more-12332
17:00 TR Bot; ( status 403 @ https://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-22-04-minimum-requirements#more-12332 )
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17:02 TR News; #Canonical #GAFAM https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-joins-magma-foundation
17:02 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-joins-magma-foundation
17:02 TR Bot; joins Magma Foundation | Ubuntu
17:04 TR News; BattlEye Anti-Cheat Works on ARMA3 with Proton - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/battleye-anti-cheat-works-on-arma3-with-proton/ #boilingsteam | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
17:04 TR Bot; BattlEye Anti-Cheat Works on ARMA3 with Proton - Boiling Steam
17:04 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
17:05 TR News; Whats new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Container Tools? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158923 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:05 TR Bot; What's new in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Container Tools? | Tux Machines
17:05 MinceR; MAGMA foundation?
17:05 TR News; #KaliLinux 2021.4 Release Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158925 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:05 TR Bot; Kali Linux 2021.4 Release | Tux Machines
17:05 MinceR; does that stand for microsoft, apple, google, meta, amazon?
17:05 schestowitz-TR; yes
17:05 schestowitz-TR; I thought the same
17:05 schestowitz-TR; psydroid2 came up with iut
17:05 schestowitz-TR; GAFAM became MAGMA
17:05 MinceR; i didn't realize they unironically came up with that name for themselves
17:06 TR News; #Canonical/Ubuntu: Magma and Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158924 MAGMA foundation = microsoft, apple, google, meta, amazon ;-)
17:06 TR Bot; Canonical/Ubuntu: Magma and Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines
17:06 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: they try to nameshift
17:07 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft will rebrand EthicalSoft
17:07 schestowitz-TR; to signify the opposite of what it is
17:07 schestowitz-TR; fighting "Crime" and "Misinformation"
17:07 schestowitz-TR; and "Communism" (Freedom)
17:07 schestowitz-TR; G stays G
17:08 schestowitz-TR; no matter how you spell
17:08 schestowitz-TR; gulag, goulag, goolag
17:08 psydroid2; From Microsoft to Megatron
17:08 schestowitz-TR; there would be a trademark lawsuit
17:11 TR News; Moshe Bars Codenotary Votes for #AlmaLinux Becomes a Platinum Member https://fossforce.com/2021/12/moshe-bars-codenotary-votes-for-almalinux-becomes-a-platinum-member/
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17:11 TR Bot; Moshe Bar's Codenotary Votes for AlmaLinux - Becomes a Platinum Member - FOSS Force
17:12 TR News; Make #music on #GNU #Linux with #Ardour https://opensource.com/article/21/12/music-linux-ardour
17:12 TR Bot; music on Linux with Ardour | Opensource.com
17:12 TR News; Year in Review: How were curating the web with you and our top Pocket features Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158926 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:12 TR Bot; Year in Review: How were curating the web with you and our top Pocket features | Tux Machines
17:14 TR News; Many #microsoft operatives in the media are attacking #gnu #linux today, including #Neowin (another #windows booster). WSL is an ATTACK on #GNULinux ... do not forget that.
17:15 TR News; What FlutterFires announcement means for Desktop Developers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158927 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:15 TR Bot; What FlutterFires announcement means for Desktop Developers | Tux Machines
17:16 TR News; (Getting Rid Of) The Ghost In The #LED | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/08/getting-rid-of-the-ghost-in-the-led/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
17:16 TR Bot; Rid Of) The Ghost In The LED | Hackaday
17:16 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
17:20 TR News; "The Call For Participation is now open for the Distribution Devroom at the upcoming #FOSDEM 2022, to be hosted virtually on February 6th." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/distributions-devroom-at-fosdem-2022/
17:20 TR Bot; Distributions Devroom at FOSDEM 2022 Fedora Community Blog
17:21 TR News; No, #linuxfoundation is NOT "Open Source", it is a front group of #ProprietarySoftware vendors https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/open-source-japan-virtually.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
17:21 TR Bot; Open Source in Japan, virtually
17:21 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
17:22 TR News; #KDEneon 20211209 is out. https://neon.kde.org/ Congrats to that team, an important #uk -based project, #kde #gnu #linux
17:22 Alternative link; Cloudflare: kde.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://neon.kde.org/
17:22 TR Bot; KDE neon
17:25 TR News; "Heres our summary of updates, events and activities in the #LibreOffice project last month click the links to learn more!" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/12/09/libreoffice-project-and-community-recap-november-2021/
17:25 TR Bot; LibreOffice project and community recap: November 2021 - The Document Foundation Blog
17:26 TR News; #UK #privacy chief denies conflict of interest in new role https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252510653/UK-privacy-chief-denies-conflict-of-interest-in-new-role #computerweekly | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
17:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: computerweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252510653/UK-privacy-chief-denies-conflict-of-interest-in-new-role
17:26 TR Bot; UK privacy chief denies conflict of interest in new role
17:26 TR News; The #EU Digital Services Act wont work without strong enforcement - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/eu-dsa-enforcement/ #accessnow
17:26 Alternative link; Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/eu-dsa-enforcement/
17:26 TR Bot; The EU Digital Services Act won't work without strong enforcement - Access Now
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17:27 TR News; Raku Advent Calendar: Day 9: Raku code coverage https://raku-advent.blog/2021/12/09/raku-code-coverage/ #rakulang #programming
17:27 TR Bot; Day 9 Raku code coverage Raku Advent Calendar
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17:28 TR News; #suse of #germany outsourcing systems to #ProprietarySoftware companies based in the US https://www.suse.com/c/migrating-sap-workloads-to-google-cloud-power-of-many/ #espionage too: http://techrights.org/2021/03/13/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-4/
17:28 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/migrating-sap-workloads-to-google-cloud-power-of-many/
17:28 TR Bot; SAP workloads to Google Cloud requires 'the Power of Many' | SUSE Communities
17:28 TR Bot; EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part IV: The US CLOUD Act Passes Without Public Debate | Techrights
17:29 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 131.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 253.63
17:30 TR News; #suse started as a #gnu #linux companies and ended up an #openwashing #ProprietarySoftware reseller like the 'Linux' (-destroying) Foundation
17:30 TR News; #suse started as a #gnu #linux company and ended up an #openwashing #ProprietarySoftware reseller like the 'Linux' (-destroying) Foundation
17:31 TR News; #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158928 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:31 TR Bot; Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
17:31 TR News; #RaspberryPi Zero 2 W Benchmarks - Nice For $15 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158929 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:31 TR Bot; Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Benchmarks - Nice For $15 | Tux Machines
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17:34 TR News; The #Linuxfoundation ought not HAVE a "MAGMA Foundation" but BECOME the MAGMA Foundation, where MAGMA stands for Microsoft Amazon Gulag Meta Apple. The CURRENT "MAGMA Foundation" is already GAFAM-dominated (Facebook). It's NOT a "linux" foundation but a front group or incubator of #surveillance monopolies connected to and partly funded by the US Army/DoD.
17:39 activelow; schestowitz: the "corona" pandemic and vaccination campaign was politically motivated exclusively
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17:40 schestowitz-TR; no, not really
17:40 schestowitz-TR; unless...
17:40 activelow; if there had been public health concerns involved at least once, then they had measured fever among other issues
17:40 schestowitz-TR; you consider it a bioweapon
17:40 schestowitz-TR; in which case it could be politically motivated
17:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe china got fed up with trump
17:40 schestowitz-TR; "release the beast"
17:40 schestowitz-TR; before you know it US economy tanks
17:41 schestowitz-TR; trump voted out
17:41 schestowitz-TR; but it's more likely to be a lad accident
17:41 schestowitz-TR; too easy to lose control of such things
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17:41 activelow; certainly, the corona propaganda was weaponizde
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17:41 TR News; Open Hardware/Modding: TeleType and RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158930 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
17:41 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding: TeleType and RISC-V | Tux Machines
17:42 TR News; #HamRadio #SSB Transceiver Fits In Pocket | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/09/ham-radio-ssb-transceiver-fits-in-pocket/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
17:42 activelow; from the beginning, and public health was the least of the concerns of government and their corrupt fakes news cartell in germany
17:42 TR Bot; Radio SSB Transceiver Fits In Pocket | Hackaday
17:42 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
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17:43 TR News; "The drives have fallen out of favor with PC, but the drives are still highly prized amongst classic #Mac collectors, who use the #SCSI versions as boot disks for the vintage machines." https://hackaday.com/2021/12/08/mac-tip-diagnoses-your-old-zip-and-jaz-drives/
17:43 TR Bot; TIP Diagnoses Your Old Zip And Jaz Drives | Hackaday
17:43 activelow; GetVaccinated: i believe most of what is labeled "free software" isn't
17:44 schestowitz-TR; define free software
17:44 activelow; and, i consider free software one aspect of academic freedom
17:44 schestowitz-TR; as you do not agree with fsf's definition of it
17:44 SomeH4x0r; something related to the "four freedoms"
17:44 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: that's defined in terms like its conditions
17:44 schestowitz-TR; unless functional definition from peens/OSD/Debian
17:44 schestowitz-TR; *perens
17:45 schestowitz-TR; the 4 freedoms are considered outdated by some
17:45 schestowitz-TR; because of complexity
17:45 schestowitz-TR; and inability to remove some things
17:45 schestowitz-TR; the freedom NOT to use something
17:45 schestowitz-TR; e.gh. systemd
17:45 SomeH4x0r; yes, systemd, Linux, Firefox/Chromium, and other things
17:45 schestowitz-TR; or browsers like gulag-based rendering engines with different 'skins'
17:46 schestowitz-TR; just to access pages, banks
17:46 schestowitz-TR; there's alsoi privacy aspect
17:46 schestowitz-TR; the telemetry scandals aren't an infringement of 4 freedom
17:46 schestowitz-TR; e.g. in audacity
17:46 schestowitz-TR; bu they're unwelcomed
17:47 schestowitz-TR; and some people exercise the 4 Freedom to remove the unwanted (antiu)feature
17:47 SomeH4x0r; if something becomes too big (e.g. big corporations developing a "free" program), it is already risky
17:47 schestowitz-TR; yes
17:47 schestowitz-TR; chromium is vast
17:47 schestowitz-TR; also interdependent on tons of other things
17:47 schestowitz-TR; gigabytes of source code
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17:47 schestowitz-TR; even a gnu/linux distro is afaik smaller than this
17:48 schestowitz-TR; libreoffice is big, but afaik browsers became bigger
17:48 schestowitz-TR; gcc is vast
17:48 schestowitz-TR; systemd is around 2 LOCs
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17:48 schestowitz-TR; GCC maybe 7 million
17:48 activelow; more
17:48 schestowitz-TR; Linux getting thgere
17:48 schestowitz-TR; just for a kernel
17:48 schestowitz-TR; which is doing little but device handling and allocating h/w resources
17:48 activelow; wrong, the kernel itself is a few hundred thousand LOC with linux
17:49 schestowitz-TR; activelow: 16 million?
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17:49 activelow; everything else is extensions, modules, drivers, dozens of filesystems
17:49 schestowitz-TR; yes, you need these
17:49 activelow; schestowitz-TR: both GCC and Linux kernel surpossed 10Million LOC
17:49 schestowitz-TR; some graphics drivers are almost a million LOCs
17:49 activelow; utter crap
17:49 SomeH4x0r; > systemd is around 2 LOCs | wdym?
17:50 schestowitz; "Linux in 2020: 27.8 million lines of code in the kernel, 1.3 million in systemd"
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17:50 SomeH4x0r; doesn't LOC mean line of code?
17:50 schestowitz; From spamnil
17:50 MinceR; https://image.taiwannews.com.tw/photos/2021/12/09/1639034063-61b1accfceba6.jpg
17:50 schestowitz; or https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/06/linux_2020_kernel_systemd_code/
17:50 Alternative link; Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/06/linux_2020_kernel_systemd_code/
↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/06/linux_2020_kernel_systemd_code/
17:50 TR Bot; Linux in 2020: 27.8 million lines of code in the kernel, 1.3 million in systemd The Register
17:50 schestowitz; Microsoft Tim
17:51 schestowitz-TR; Linus just signs things off
17:51 schestowitz-TR; he barely reads the code
17:51 schestowitz-TR; he does communication and coordination
17:51 schestowitz-TR; so the quality control is done by corporations that are selfish
17:52 schestowitz-TR; LF is too busy shilling Microsoft
17:52 schestowitz-TR; they profit from selling us
17:52 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/linux-com-spamfarm/
17:52 TR Bot; Linux.com Has Become Microsoft Spam and Spamnil | Techrights
17:53 TR News; Interview on #buzzword https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20211209-01.en.html
17:53 TR Bot; 20 Years FSFE: Interview with Vincent Lequertier on AI - FSFE
17:54 TR News; #elastic as #ProprietarySoftware pusher https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211208006069/en/Elastic-Announces-New-Osquery-Manager-Integration-and-Memory-Threat-Protection-for-macOS-and-Linux
17:54 Alternative link; Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211208006069/en/Elastic-Announces-New-Osquery-Manager-Integration-and-Memory-Threat-Protection-for-macOS-and-Linux
17:54 TR Bot; Elastic Announces New Osquery Manager Integration and Memory Threat Protection for macOS and Linux | Business Wire
17:56 TR News; "covered by the Elastic license, so you can take your deployment global." https://www.elastic.co/blog/whats-new-elastic-security-7-16-0
17:56 Alternative link; Cloudflare: elastic.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.elastic.co/blog/whats-new-elastic-security-7-16-0
17:56 TR Bot; Whats new in Elastic Security 7.16: expanded visibility and streamlined workflows | Elastic Blog
17:57 TR News; #freesw isn't winning per se. YES, it's used MORE THAN EVER BEFORE. But it's being used as bait to sell #ProprietarySoftware more malicious than ever before (back doors, #Surveillance and so on)
17:58 TR News; #fsfe has meanwhile become Gulag Deutschland with #microsoft money on the side or the lap. They don't fight for your freedom but for corporate sponsors. If you still pay FSFE as a Fellow, then YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.
17:59 SomeH4x0r; I wonder if I should ever donate my money to anyone. At least, in software-related stuff.
18:00 TR News; ...The problem isn't #micosoft but the crimes of Microsoft and the general behaviour of Microsoft, which is nowadays shared among or across a number of other companies. So yes, Microsoft needs to be eradicated, but not only Microsoft. The problem isn't one that can be narrowed down to a mere brand but a concept and political, cult-like behaviour.
18:00 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: sometimes yes;
18:00 schestowitz-TR; like a very good developer or project
18:00 schestowitz-TR; in dire need of money
18:00 schestowitz-TR; for things like shelter and food
18:00 schestowitz-TR; example: sparkylinux in poland
18:00 schestowitz-TR; the developers just need food, server, roof
18:00 SomeH4x0r; but how can I be sure they don't become evil and I regret I gave them a cent?
18:01 schestowitz-TR; personal connection
18:01 schestowitz-TR; you can tell a-holes
18:01 schestowitz-TR; career climbers and social climbers
18:01 schestowitz-TR; fsf isn't corrupt at the core
18:01 schestowitz-TR; it got infiltrated
18:01 schestowitz-TR; the core people are ok
18:01 schestowitz-TR; the long timers
18:01 schestowitz-TR; they've chased away some of the infiltrators
18:02 schestowitz-TR; but only after a lot of damage had been done by them
18:02 schestowitz-TR; SomeH4x0r: if you have mnney to spare, support enimal lovers
18:02 schestowitz-TR; they cannot sell out
18:02 schestowitz-TR; they won't sell the animals for meat
18:03 SomeH4x0r; then I need to tell whether they actually love animals, or they are just fake entities behind scammers
18:03 schestowitz-TR; you can check
18:03 schestowitz-TR; some have built reputation for a century
18:04 schestowitz-TR; my birthday is next week
18:04 schestowitz-TR; we always give to animal charities on our birthdays
18:05 schestowitz-TR; btw
18:05 schestowitz-TR; sad story
18:05 schestowitz-TR; some people donated to zemlin
18:05 schestowitz-TR; LF
18:05 schestowitz-TR; or got their credit card
18:05 schestowitz-TR; paid a commission on purchases
18:05 schestowitz-TR; to subsidise this very malicious thing
18:05 schestowitz-TR; I feel bad for people who did this
18:06 schestowitz-TR; why not just donate directly to gates foundation?
18:06 schestowitz-TR; with a scented love letter?
18:06 schestowitz-TR; zemlin and his friends were always, all along, phonies and fakes
18:07 schestowitz-TR; with warnings about them going almost 15 eyars back
18:07 schestowitz-TR; we live in a world where drunksards and womanisers or people born ultra-rich can climb to the top
18:07 schestowitz-TR; and they based their career on lies
18:08 schestowitz-TR; to get a job
18:08 schestowitz-TR; and then use that job to get the next
18:08 schestowitz-TR; like fake claims of creating something
18:08 schestowitz-TR; shame on Torvalds for putting these people in charge of him
18:08 schestowitz-TR; now he can barely even respond to emails
18:09 schestowitz-TR; or he will get more bollocking from his bosses at Microsoft (Board of Directors, LF)
18:09 schestowitz-TR; same issue in EPO
18:09 schestowitz-TR; bright people as examiners
18:09 schestowitz-TR; liars, frauds, crims as Vice Presidents and Presidents
18:10 schestowitz-TR; with costumes and buzzwords
18:12 TR News; #Python identifiers, PEP 8, and consistency [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/877115/ #LWN #programming
18:12 TR Bot; identifiers, PEP 8, and consistency [LWN.net]
18:14 TR News; Will #fedora stop outsourcing almost everything to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware prison? https://lwn.net/Articles/877240/ it SHOULD: http://techrights.org/2021/11/24/fedora-slaves-at-microsoft/
18:14 TR Bot; revisits the Git-forge debate [LWN.net]
18:14 TR Bot; 3.5 Years Later the Master of Fedora is Still Microsoft and IBM Cannot Be Bothered to Alter Git Branch Names (Refuting or Ignoring Its Very Own Directive About Supposedly Racially-Insensitive Terms) | Techrights
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18:15 TR News; #GNOME 41.2 Is Here to Improve Software, Boxes, Orca, Calendar, and Other Apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158931 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
18:15 TR Bot; GNOME 41.2 Is Here to Improve Software, Boxes, Orca, Calendar, and Other Apps | Tux Machines
18:16 TR News; #Kernel : #LWN Articles and Bootlin Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158932 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
18:16 TR Bot; Kernel: LWN Articles and Bootlin | Tux Machines
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18:29 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/race.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1992/ )
18:29 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/race.png
18:29 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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19:05 MinceR; https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/gamble2.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/1999/ )
19:05 Alternative link; Cloudflare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/gamble2.png
19:05 TR Bot; & Happiness (Explosm.net)
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19:17 TR News; #KaliLinux 2021.4 Released with Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Support, GNOME 41, and New Hacking Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158933 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:17 TR Bot; Kali Linux 2021.4 Released with Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Support, GNOME 41, and New Hacking Tools | Tux Machines
19:29 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 118.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 253.59
19:32 TR News; An Eventful Instant: GNOME Shell 42 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158934 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
19:32 TR Bot; An Eventful Instant: GNOME Shell 42 | Tux Machines
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19:36 DaemonFC; schestowitz, Microsoft Larabel wrote a hit piece on Debian.
19:36 schestowitz-TR; I saw
19:36 schestowitz-TR; he blames Debian
19:36 schestowitz-TR; not the browser
19:36 schestowitz-TR; he misses the point
19:36 schestowitz-TR; browsers
19:36 schestowitz-TR; not just browser
19:37 schestowitz-TR; [19:47] <techrights-news> The problem is the browser and the #www rather than #debian #gnu #linux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian Debian should start packaging #geminiProtocol clients...
19:37 Alternative link; Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian
19:37 TR Bot; Sad State Of Web Browser Support Currently Within Debian - Phoronix
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19:45 DaemonFC; 4 more fillings, two extractions, and the temporary partial plate for Mandy.
19:45 DaemonFC; Now just two more fillings on Monday and we're done for the year.
19:48 TR News; For #git the word "master" has long been a convenient convention that made branch names predictable. Now that #ibm look to eradicate it some choose "dev" and "devel" instead (inconsistent), which is also confusing because "dev" typically means "test"
19:53 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/gdrTjlf.jpeg
19:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/gdrTjlf.jpeg
20:00 TR News; #canonical #ubuntu blog: let's install #ProprietarySoftware for #microsoft https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-gaming-tutorial-raspberry-pi-minecraft-server-on-ubuntu-desktop
20:00 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-gaming-tutorial-raspberry-pi-minecraft-server-on-ubuntu-desktop
20:00 TR Bot; Pi Tutorial: Host a Minecraft server on Ubuntu Desktop | Ubuntu
20:05 TR News; Sifive Essential 6-Series RISC-V processors target Linux, real-time applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158902#comment-32025
20:05 TR Bot; Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines
20:16 TR News; "A fresh month has arrived and so it brings with it a new Humble Choice, the curated monthly bundle along with a few other game bundles to go over. Here's a roundup of how they all work on #gnu #Linux either natively or with #SteamPlay Proton." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/new-humble-choice-and-multiple-humble-bundles-are-live
20:16 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/new-humble-choice-and-multiple-humble-bundles-are-live
20:16 TR Bot; Humble Choice and multiple Humble Bundles are live | GamingOnLinux
20:18 TR News; "Another developer is looking into native #GNU #Linux builds for their game, this time it's Tomas Sala for The Falconeer in preparation for the upcoming Steam Deck handheld." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/developer-of-the-falconeer-looking-at-linux-builds-for-the-steam-deck
20:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/developer-of-the-falconeer-looking-at-linux-builds-for-the-steam-deck
20:18 TR Bot; of The Falconeer looking at Linux builds for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
20:21 TR News; "SCS has upgraded both Euro Truck Simulator 2 & American Truck Simulator with some major improvements, and it seems they may work even better on the upcoming #SteamDeck now." #gnu #linux #archlinus https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/euro-truck-simulator-2-a-american-truck-simulator-get-big-upgrades/
20:21 Alternative link; Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/12/euro-truck-simulator-2-a-american-truck-simulator-get-big-upgrades/
20:21 TR Bot; Truck Simulator 2 & American Truck Simulator get big upgrades | GamingOnLinux
20:22 TR News; #intel #openwashing by #spamnil today... #linuxfoundation is beyond farcical at this point, and it HARMS the Linux BRAND and PROJECT
20:25 TR News; #spamnil and friends use the #OneAPI schtick to #openwash #intel but it is outsourced to #proprietarySoftware of Microsoft for reasons specified in Intel leaks http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
20:25 TR Bot; Intel leaks - Techrights
20:26 TR News; #Games: ARMA3, Humble Choice, and Lots More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158935 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
20:26 TR Bot; Games: ARMA3, Humble Choice, and Lots More | Tux Machines
20:28 TR News; omg! #proprietarySoftware "Appppps" https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/site-stuff-december-2021
20:28 TR Bot; Picking a masthead colour [Off Topic] - OMG! Ubuntu!
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20:40 XFaCE; MinceR: https://hackmd.io/@XAMPPRocky/r1HT-Z6_t
20:40 TR Bot; The Core Team Is Toxic - HackMD
20:40 XFaCE; "it should come as no surprise how the core team responded to members complaints about the continued involvement of Palantir employees in the Rust-lang organisation. The core team repeatedly dismissed and maligned several members concerns about the involvement of a company so heavily involved with producing spyware."
20:41 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: welcome back
20:41 XFaCE; Par for the course given NSA's number one partner IBM/Red Hat
20:41 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: No one's ever really gone
20:42 schestowitz-TR; good
20:42 schestowitz-TR; i just did a 43-min video on ibm/redhat
20:42 schestowitz-TR; it's uploading
20:42 XFaCE; They should have stuck to making Model M keyboards.
20:42 TR News; "it should come as no surprise how the core team responded to members complaints about the continued involvement of #Palantir employees in the #Rustlang organisation." https://hackmd.io/@XAMPPRocky/r1HT-Z6_t
20:45 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: Did you know that IBM charges for mainframe use by the CPU (or something akin) cycle?
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20:45 XFaCE; It's like saying you can only do some many revolutions in your car before it shuts off.
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20:45 *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
20:46 *Now talking on #techrights
20:46 *Topic for #techrights is: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. For scrollback see http://techrights.org/irc-channel/
20:46 *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~roy@22e8m8t4gqjin.irc at Fri Jun 18 16:51:47 2021
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20:49 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: I like the username that uses cursive for Techrights
20:49 schestowitz; hang on..
20:49 schestowitz; let the network catch up
20:49 schestowitz; it's the datacentre (hiccup)
20:49 schestowitz; [20:45] <XFaCE> I see the new provider hasn't fixed netsplits
20:49 schestowitz; this was missed by the logger
20:50 schestowitz; to be fair, he network reliability of the site is phenominal
20:50 schestowitz; far better than H.E., which we had before 3 years ago
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20:51 schestowitz; test http://example.org
20:51 TR Bot; Example Domain
20:51 MinceR; :>
20:51 XFaCE; test https://techrights.org
20:51 TR Bot; Welcome to Techrights
20:51 schestowitz; I think we're all good now
20:51 XFaCE; test
20:51 XFaCE; smart command
20:51 XFaCE; test This is not a domain
20:51 XFaCE; very good
20:52 XFaCE; test MinceR
20:52 MinceR; failed
20:52 XFaCE; Maybe you don't really exist >.>
20:52 schestowitz; brb
20:52 schestowitz; need to bring back up a few things
20:53 schestowitz; also, my upload was interrupted misway, but I can rsync it
20:53 schestowitz; *midway
20:53 XFaCE; I'm not going to MinceR words with you
20:53 XFaCE; ba-dum-tsh
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20:54 XFaCE; ah leah, here we go again
20:54 schestowitz; leah is back in bizniz
20:54 schestowitz; doing coding
20:54 schestowitz; no more binge-ing ;-)
20:55 XFaCE; I was referencing a Donnie Iris song
20:55 schestowitz; I'm going to clean my rss feeds in a moment
20:57 schestowitz; [20:45] <XFaCE> It's like saying you can only do some many revolutions in your car before it shuts off.
20:57 schestowitz; Microsoft copied it from IBM, I think
20:57 schestowitz; now we have clown computing
20:57 XFaCE; Coloured me shock, Microsoft copying
20:57 schestowitz; you own nothing and get charged like x10 the cost of electricit
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20:57 XFaCE; Actually it's not the copying, it's the "we can do it but you can't" attitude
20:57 schestowitz; for ranting "space", RAM, and CPU
20:57 schestowitz; so it's another battlefront
20:58 schestowitz; aside from free software and Internet decentralisation
20:58 XFaCE; schestowitz: I assume you saw the old news about the SCO asset acquiring suing IBM/Red Hat
20:58 XFaCE; around May 2021
20:58 schestowitz; yes
20:58 schestowitz; it's not so interesting anymore
20:58 XFaCE; On the one hand, the case still sucks... on the other hand I have no love for IBM/Red Hat
20:59 leah; what
20:59 schestowitz; whoooooooh
20:59 leah; XFaCE: what goes again?
20:59 schestowitz; (lancashite accent)
20:59 schestowitz; *shire
20:59 schestowitz; bad typo
20:59 XFaCE; <XFaCE> I was referencing a Donnie Iris song
20:59 XFaCE; leah: That's a lyric from the song
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21:00 schestowitz; leah: we have temporary network issues, causing a 'netsplit' (not quite as we have only one server, no fallback except other networks)
21:01 XFaCE; leah: There's a Donnie Iris hit called "Ah Leah"
21:01 TR News; "The core team repeatedly dismissed and maligned several members concerns about the involvement of a company so heavily involved with producing spyware." #github #microsoft #surveillance #spyware #rustlang https://hackmd.io/@XAMPPRocky/r1HT-Z6_t
21:01 TR Bot; The Core Team Is Toxic - HackMD
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21:02 XFaCE; Must be my sense of humour, it causes netsplits
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21:02 XFaCE; Or maybe IBM doesn't like criticism of their mainframe business
21:02 TR News; More and more people manage #git over #geminiProtocol instead of #www https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007670.html
21:02 TR Bot; [users] Any live gmnigit capsules?
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21:04 *leah still waiting for an answer
21:04 leah; "here go we again"
21:04 leah; XFaCE: what were you referring to?
21:04 XFaCE; <XFaCE> <XFaCE> I was referencing a Donnie Iris song
21:04 XFaCE; <~schestowitz> bad typo
21:04 XFaCE; <XFaCE> leah: That's a lyric from the song
21:04 leah; ok, let me ask another way
21:05 leah; what relevance do i have to what was on your mind, when you said it
21:05 TR News; #Gulag "took steps to shut down the #Glupteba botnet, at least for now. (The botnet uses the bitcoin blockchain as a backup command-and-control mechanism, making it hard to get rid of it permanently.) So Google is also suing the botnets operators." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/12/google-shuts-down-glupteba-botnet-sues-operators.html
21:05 TR Bot; Shuts Down Glupteba Botnet, Sues Operators - Schneier on Security
21:05 XFaCE; you rejoined, your name reminded me of the song lyric
21:05 leah; ok
21:06 TR News; #proprietarySoftware = #fakeSecurity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-343-02
21:06 TR Bot; WECON LeviStudioU | CISA
21:06 psydroid2; it must be embarrassing to Microsoft that Google manages to shut down Vista botnets and they can't and won't do anything themselves
21:06 TR News; "Smaaaaaart"... do you want a "smart" cardiologist? "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an attacker to access privileged accounts." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsma-21-343-01
21:06 TR Bot; Hillrom Welch Allyn Cardio Products | CISA
21:07 XFaCE; psydroid2: that would require shame
21:07 XFaCE; Microsoft has none
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21:09 schestowitz-TR; Ed Bought
21:09 schestowitz-TR; Ed Bot
21:09 schestowitz-TR; Ed Bott
21:09 schestowitz-TR; Ad bot
21:09 schestowitz-TR; As bought
21:09 schestowitz-TR; from Ed Bott
21:09 schestowitz-TR; Welcome to ZDNet
21:09 schestowitz-TR; the PR botnet of Microsoft Corp.
21:09 schestowitz-TR; fake news
21:09 schestowitz-TR; no research
21:10 schestowitz-TR; no understanding of what they cover
21:12 XFaCE; Remember when Ziff Davis had credibility? Probably not since 1991
21:12 schestowitz-TR; they used to call it Zigg|gates
21:12 schestowitz-TR; *Ziff|Gates
21:13 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: Did it ever have credibility?
21:13 schestowitz-TR; I don't know
21:14 schestowitz-TR; I was young and didn't read news online back then
21:14 schestowitz-TR; and on paper
21:14 XFaCE; It was referenced on Computer Chronicles a lot
21:14 schestowitz-TR; zdnet is owned by an entertainment conglomerate now
21:14 XFaCE; "Ziff Davis Labs"
21:14 schestowitz-TR; focus on >>> entertainment
21:14 schestowitz-TR; not journalism
21:14 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: Not CBS correct? They sold them IIRC
21:14 schestowitz-TR; CBS collapsed
21:14 schestowitz-TR; sort of
21:14 XFaCE; is collapsing
21:15 schestowitz-TR; it's too complicated even for me to follow the chains of ownership with long history of it
21:15 schestowitz-TR; I researched and did an article about it yearsd ago
21:15 XFaCE; Viacom bought CBS, then they split, then they re-merged recentlly
21:15 schestowitz-TR; usually you find super-rich and weirdly low-profile families owning it all
21:15 XFaCE; and now their stock is in the toilet
21:15 schestowitz-TR; zdnet is collapsing
21:16 schestowitz-TR; not many articles anymore
21:16 schestowitz-TR; some writers left or got fired
21:16 schestowitz-TR; zdnet may be inactive in 5 years
21:16 schestowitz-TR; still online, but more like spamfarm "proper"
21:16 schestowitz-TR; not even pretence of journalism
21:16 schestowitz-TR; sjvn started writing in theregister
21:16 schestowitz-TR; but that too is becoming a spamfarm
21:16 schestowitz-TR; they even admit upfront
21:17 schestowitz-TR; that the articles are "PAID ARTICLE"
21:17 schestowitz-TR; or "sponsored by" at the bottom
21:17 schestowitz-TR; they cannot pay salaries
21:17 schestowitz-TR; not enough incomew
21:17 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: that's an epidemic across seemingly all media atm
21:17 schestowitz-TR; they too will die
21:17 schestowitz-TR; yes
21:17 schestowitz-TR; www= spamfarm
21:17 schestowitz-TR; use gemini
21:17 schestowitz-TR; it's getting worse
21:17 XFaCE; Lots of "prestigious" newspapers with paid crap
21:17 schestowitz-TR; the s/spam ratio
21:17 schestowitz-TR; or s/n
21:17 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: or use Yggdrasil
21:18 schestowitz-TR; sort of works in favour of techrights
21:18 schestowitz-TR; but not tuxmachines
21:18 schestowitz-TR; because TM relies on articles to link to
21:18 XFaCE; tuxmachines relies on input, so GIGO becomes a problem
21:18 schestowitz-TR; even "Reviews" are fake now
21:18 schestowitz-TR; paid-for amazon spam
21:18 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/
21:18 TR Bot; The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights
21:19 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: yes, exactly
21:19 schestowitz-TR; but there are still blogs
21:19 schestowitz-TR; social control media has not killed them all
21:19 schestowitz-TR; (yet)
21:19 schestowitz-TR; so gigo is a thing if you rely only on media of gulagnews
21:19 schestowitz-TR; which I don't
21:19 schestowitz-TR; I've subscribed to about 300 rss feeds
21:19 schestowitz-TR; in patents the blogs are much needed
21:19 schestowitz-TR; the patent reformers went silent
21:20 schestowitz-TR; their blogs
21:20 schestowitz-TR; even patentprogress (CCIA)
21:20 schestowitz-TR; so in the patent realm I'm almost on my own
21:20 schestowitz-TR; zoobab/ffii rarely do press releases
21:20 schestowitz-TR; zoobab thinks "tweeting" will fix things
21:20 schestowitz-TR; I told him to write more formal things
21:21 TR News; Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158936 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
21:21 TR Bot; today's howtos | Tux Machines
21:21 schestowitz-TR; also all howtos are blogs ^^
21:21 schestowitz-TR; I scour theweb very widely
21:21 schestowitz-TR; with rss feeds
21:21 schestowitz-TR; gulagnews won't cast its net wide enough
21:21 schestowitz-TR; it does pick up LOADS of SPAM sites
21:22 schestowitz-TR; plagiarism and hey hi-generated crap
21:22 schestowitz-TR; but not actual, legit blogs
21:22 schestowitz-TR; we have an information pandemic
21:22 schestowitz-TR; spam overtaking journalism
21:22 schestowitz-TR; and fake reviews in sites like cnn, daemonfc says
21:22 schestowitz-TR; a section of fake reviews
21:22 schestowitz-TR; for amazon sales
21:22 schestowitz-TR; with quotas for writers of the fake reviewsd
21:23 schestowitz-TR; then, gulagsearch directs people to amazon catalogues disguised as reviews
21:23 schestowitz-TR; so you search for a product
21:23 schestowitz-TR; and you don't get a single honest review, just marketing/pr/sales
21:25 TR News; The European Commission pledges to release more software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158920#comment-32027
21:25 TR Bot; The European Commission Will Make its Software Solutions Open Source for Public Benefit | Tux Machines
21:26 schestowitz-TR; speakingog gulagsearch
21:26 schestowitz-TR; googletroll thinks people will fols like origami is you throw lawyers at them
21:26 schestowitz-TR; this is the attitude one gets by working for these awful corporations
21:26 schestowitz-TR; a sense of self righteousness by money
21:27 schestowitz-TR; "I have more money than you"
21:27 schestowitz-TR; "so that means merit"
21:27 schestowitz-TR; "I am smarter than you"
21:27 schestowitz-TR; "so I am right, you are WRONG"
21:28 *schestowitz-TR doesn't hate on people so pathetic
21:28 *schestowitz-TR suggests professional mental assistance instead
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21:29 TR News; Zorin OS 16 Lite: Better Xfce with Much More Simplicity http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158878#comment-32028
21:29 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Celebrates More Than 1 Million Downloads with Lite Edition | Tux Machines
21:29 IPFS; IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 109.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 253.55
21:31 TR News; Corporate cults entering #linux #kernel after incubation by #gulag asset #mozilla for hosting and control by #microsoft with CoC #censorship https://www.itsfoss.net/rust-advances-to-become-the-second-language-of-the-linux-kernel/
21:31 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/rust-advances-to-become-the-second-language-of-the-linux-kernel/
21:31 TR Bot; advances to become the second language of the Linux kernel - itsfoss.net
21:32 TR News; Free #SoftwareFreedom is Not Linux Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/
21:32 TR Bot; Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | Techrights
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21:34 hyperreal; anyone here using void linux know of a way to get, like, Ubuntu-style or Fedora-style font rendering?
21:34 TR News; "Together, Tonteri and Salonen plan to create an application that works on REST interfaces on Red Hat OpenShift." So they've turned #education into TRAINING. To sell #ibm :/ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/first-students-jyvaskyla-university-applied-sciences-complete-courses-through-red-hat-academy
21:34 TR Bot; The first students from Jyvskyl University of Applied Sciences to complete courses through Red Hat Academy
21:36 TR News; www
21:37 TR News; Edge... "hybrid cloud computing" BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH #buzzword #buzzword #buzzword https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/edge-computing-benefits-and-use-cases #ibm #redhat
21:37 TR Bot; Edge computing benefits and use cases
21:40 TR News; Wow. The exodus at #ibm #redhat continues ... I've LOST TRACK of how many high-level people have jumped ship this year. It's a lot. Maybe 6 of C level and below. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/transitioning-red-hats-emea-leadership-team
21:40 TR Bot; Transitioning Red Hat's EMEA leadership team
21:40 TR News; #ibm is running #redhat like Watson's hero (Adolf) ran #germany
21:42 TR News; #ibm today: we save lives https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/brickthru-enables-firefighters-to-save-more-lives/ except when you make lots of money by killing millions: http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism
21:42 Alternative link; Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/brickthru-enables-firefighters-to-save-more-lives/
21:42 TR Bot; BrickThru enables firefighters to save more lives IBM Developer
21:42 TR Bot; IBM - Techrights
21:42 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/tips-open-source-mentorship
21:42 TR Bot; Tips for Open Source Mentorship
21:42 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/tips-open-source-mentorship
21:42 schestowitz; Mentorships can provide a valuable career boost and benefit both mentors and mentees when both parties are committed to the relationship's success, says Ashley Hardin. For example, mentors can develop leadership skills, while those being mentored can gain competency to prepare them for job success.
21:42 schestowitz; This article offers tips for effectively building a positive mentorship relationship in an open source world.
21:42 schestowitz; Red Hat fluff
21:43 schestowitz; Mentorship
21:43 schestowitz; Read as:
21:43 schestowitz; 1) unpaid work
21:43 schestowitz; 2) low-paid work
21:43 schestowitz; 3) s****** (the word IBM doesn't want us to say)
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21:44 TR News; "As familiar as we all are with the UNO, theres probably a lot you dont know about the iconic #Arduino microcontroller board. Put on your rose-tinted spectacles, and lets wax poetic about the origins of this beloved maker board." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/09/one-board-to-rule-them-all-history-of-the-arduino-uno/
21:44 Alternative link; Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/09/one-board-to-rule-them-all-history-of-the-arduino-uno/
21:44 TR Bot; One board to rule them all: History of the Arduino UNO | Arduino Blog
21:45 TR News; Digging deep for responsible #aluminum https://www.fairphone.com/en/2021/12/09/responsible-aluminum-asi/ #fairphone recycling
21:45 Alternative link; Cloudflare: fairphone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fairphone.com/en/2021/12/09/responsible-aluminum-asi/
21:45 TR Bot; deep for responsible aluminum - Fairphone
21:46 TR News; My Favorite Warnings: shadow http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2021/12/my-favorite-warnings-shadow.html #perl #programming
21:46 TR Bot; Favorite Warnings: shadow | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
21:46 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/796147.png
21:46 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/796147.png
21:47 TR News; #Mozilla #Security Blog: Improving the Quality of Publicly Trusted Intermediate CA Certificates with Enhanced Oversight and Automation https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/12/09/improved-quality-of-intermediate-certificates-with-enhanced-oversight-and-automation/
21:47 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2021/12/09/improved-quality-of-intermediate-certificates-with-enhanced-oversight-and-automation/
21:47 TR Bot; Improving the Quality of Publicly Trusted Intermediate CA Certificates with Enhanced Oversight and Automation - Mozilla Security Blog
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21:49 schestowitz-TR; he died
21:50 MinceR; breakthrough case?
21:50 schestowitz-TR; no
21:50 schestowitz-TR; just break
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21:52 schestowitz-TR; Mr. Olaf Scholtz himself
21:52 schestowitz-TR; chasing activelow into IRC 'underground'
21:53 schestowitz-TR; In Austria, dissenters hide in roof. In German, dissenters hide in IRC
21:54 schestowitz-TR; In Soviet Russia, dicktator shoots sputnik into dissenters
21:55 schestowitz-TR; like in North Korea
21:55 schestowitz-TR; 0 covid cases
21:55 *activelow isn't in the mood for trolling
21:56 activelow; interesting, next argument: the relatively expensive "Recovered" status which required a positive PCR anti-body test
21:57 activelow; will probably be invalid again with the omicron variant
21:58 activelow; which seems to be an incentive, to become infected (by a vaccine or however), and then an expensive PCR test verifies a "recovered" status again
21:59 activelow; the cheap variant would be receiving any arbitrary miracle tincture every few month, recent proposel was 3month cycle to receive various injections
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22:02 TR News; #IBM / #RedHat /Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158937 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:02 TR Bot; IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:02 schestowitz-TR; [21:55] * activelow isn't in the mood for trolling
22:02 schestowitz-TR; come on, humour is the best medicine... and comes in one dose
22:02 activelow; the recent medical procedure to inject tinctures in tents outside soccer stadiums was *CRIMINAL*; not at least fever was measured before and after any vaccination
22:04 TR News; #gulag + #microsoft #windows = back doors on several levels. #NSA GAFAM https://blog.chromium.org/2021/12/chrome-windows-performance-improvements-native-window-occlusion.html
22:04 TR Bot; Chromium Blog: Chrome on Windows performance improvements and the journey of Native Window Occlusion
22:06 TR News; #EndeavourOS Atlantis overview (video) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158687#comment-32030
22:06 TR Bot; Arch Linux-Based EndeavourOS Atlantis Is Out with Linux 5.15 LTS, PipeWire, and More | Tux Machines
22:07 TR News; All those processor choices have #nsa back doors, #ibase https://linuxgizmos.com/open-frame-panel-pcs-offer-a-choice-of-v1000-whiskey-lake-and-apollo-lake/
↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/open-frame-panel-pcs-offer-a-choice-of-v1000-whiskey-lake-and-apollo-lake/
22:07 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/open-frame-panel-pcs-offer-a-choice-of-v1000-whiskey-lake-and-apollo-lake/
22:07 TR Bot; ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/open-frame-panel-pcs-offer-a-choice-of-v1000-whiskey-lake-and-apollo-lake/ )
↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/open-frame-panel-pcs-offer-a-choice-of-v1000-whiskey-lake-and-apollo-lake/
22:09 TR News; With all that CA shilling in #mozilla #security [sic] blog earlier today, it's crystal clear #firefox isn't for the Open Web but for monopolisation by centralisation, helping the likes of Sugar Daddy Gulag Inc.
22:11 TR News; #censorship of Web sites at Web browser level won't be required anymore >by plugins< if the CAs control what sites you can and cannot enter, with browsers strictly enforcing the "naughty lists" and Pentagon-connected CAs making up lists. The notion of #security has been reduced to "national interest" (NatSec) and it's about control, mistrust, coercion.
22:13 TR News; The #www has become not just #spamfarm (very low signal to spam ratio) but also a mechanism of #socialcontrol and coercion. We need to get out and pull friends, family etc. out of it. And soon.
22:14 schestowitz-TR; activelow: on a positive note, we do get some ideas across
22:14 schestowitz-TR; and it seems like many germans fire back at the fake framing
22:14 schestowitz-TR; wherein it's all just "extremists" who confront the government
22:14 schestowitz-TR; it's not going to go well
22:17 TR News; Cross-compiling with icecream - Samuel Iglesias Gonslvez's blog https://blogs.igalia.com/siglesias/2021/12/09/Cross-compiling-with-icecream/ #igalia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
22:17 TR Bot; Cross-compiling with icecream - Samuel Iglesias Gonslvez's blog
22:17 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
22:18 TR News; #linuxfoundation #marketing its own products now, NOT Linux (the LF is good neither for the Linux brand nor for the project!) https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/facing-economic-challenges-open-source-opportunities-are-strong-during-times-of-crisis/ see http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/
22:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/facing-economic-challenges-open-source-opportunities-are-strong-during-times-of-crisis/
22:18 TR Bot; Facing Economic Challenges: Open Source Opportunities are Strong During Times of Crisis - Linux Foundation
22:18 TR Bot; The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | Techrights
22:18 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: you want to proofread the red hat article
22:18 schestowitz-TR; ?
22:19 TR News; #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158938 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:19 TR Bot; Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
22:19 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: upload over
22:19 MinceR; https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/awMq6nB_460swp.webp
22:19 Alternative link; Cloudflare: 9cache.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/awMq6nB_460swp.webp
22:22 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: that joke is like a child with cancer
22:22 MinceR; :)
22:23 TR News; Devices: Fairphone, x86 Devices, and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158939 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:23 TR Bot; Devices: Fairphone, x86 Devices, and Arduino | Tux Machines
22:24 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1468998383310360583#m
22:24 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1468998383310360583#m )
22:24 schestowitz-TR; https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1468998383310360583#m
22:24 TR Bot; Cloud Act: "Congress quietly slips cloud-spying powers into page 2,201 of emergency spending bill [...] On the othe https://t.co/BZIM9pdcil
22:24 TR Bot; Cloud Act: "Congress quietly slips cloud-spying powers into page 2,201 of emergency spending bill [...] On the othe https://t.co/BZIM9pdcil
22:24 schestowitz-TR; nitter.eu isn't reliable anymore
22:24 schestowitz-TR; rate-limited
22:24 schestowitz-TR; by twitter I assume
22:24 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1468998438637424650#m
22:25 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1468998438637424650#m )
22:26 TR News; Peter Czanik: Reducing the complexity of #logmanagement https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/reducing-the-complexity-of-log-management
22:26 TR Bot; the complexity of log management - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
22:28 TR News; APT for Advent of Code https://david.kalnischkies.de/blog/2021/apt-for-advent-of-code/ #programming #debian #freesw #gnu #linux
22:28 TR Bot; APT for Advent of Code
22:29 TR News; Dirk Eddelbuettel/Thinking inside the box: " #qlcal covers over sixty country / market calendars and can compute holiday lists, its complement (i.e. business day lists) and much more." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/12/09/
22:29 TR Bot; Thinking inside the box
22:33 TR News; #suse still a non-stop #sap #proprietarySoftware #shilling machine https://www.suse.com/c/project-trento-reaches-ramp-up-phase/ see also http://techrights.org/2011/09/16/linux-tax-at-sap/
22:33 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/project-trento-reaches-ramp-up-phase/
22:33 TR Bot; Trento reaches Ramp-Up phase | SUSE Communities
22:33 TR Bot; SAP Offers Lip Service to Red Hat But Continues to Pay Microsoft for GNU/Linux, Thanks to SUSE | Techrights
22:34 TR News; #Barry Kauler, #OpenEmbedded , and #ClawsMail Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158940 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
22:34 TR Bot; Barry Kauler, OpenEmbedded, and Claws Mail | Tux Machines
22:35 TR News; #suse as little but #microsoft and #sap reseller. When I started using SUSE (before #opensuse was a thing) almost 2 decades ago it wasn't like this https://www.suse.com/c/first-certified-simple-mount-cluster-ever/
22:35 Alternative link; Cloudflare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/first-certified-simple-mount-cluster-ever/
22:35 TR Bot; certified simple-mount cluster ever! | SUSE Communities
22:37 TR News; Support the #gnu #linux community. The C word they don't want you to utter; same for the F word (freedom)... the corporations that rob away the C and F for opportunistic monetary gain have their own front groups (like #zemlinPAC nowadays, OSDL before) advancing their interests at the expense of OURS'
22:39 TR News; #canonical does not want "Linux" to succeed. It wants Canonical to succeed. #redhat does not want "Linux" to succeed. It wants #IBM to profit. #novell did not want "SUSE" to succeed. It wanted #microsoft to be happy and throw a bone over.
22:40 TR News; Many strange things have happened this week in #linuxfoundation ... not sure if as a response to something we had said (and triggered them) http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
22:40 TR Bot; Linux Foundation - Techrights
22:41 XFaCE; schestowitz: sorry was afk
22:41 XFaCE; daily exercise time
22:41 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR:
22:41 TR News; Key point to internalise: #LINUXFOUNDATION is NOT good for the Linux BRAND (it PUTS OFF and GASLIGHTS the ACTUAL COMMUNITY) and it's also bad for the Linux PROJECT (e.g. pushing #rustlang cargo cult into it, for the LF's paying handlers)
22:42 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: can you read now?
22:42 schestowitz-TR; I fondly recall the times we worked through the wiki
22:42 schestowitz-TR; and you mentioned red hat earlier, so..
22:42 XFaCE; sure
22:43 schestowitz; XFaCE: http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/
22:43 TR Bot; Fedora (Re)Starts Discussing Plan to Delete GitHub (Quit Microsoft Dependence) | Techrights
22:43 schestowitz; just for you, 10 secs ago
22:44 XFaCE; so login to wordpress and edit it there?
22:45 schestowitz-TR; no need
22:45 schestowitz-TR; see article
22:45 schestowitz-TR; suggest things, spot typos etc.
22:46 XFaCE; gotcha
22:46 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: I wonder, what if we make the articles roff documents or something, that way we can commit to Git, and edits could be pull requests or issue reports
22:46 XFaCE; also I now tend to edit stuff in vim
22:52 schestowitz-TR; we can use git
22:52 schestowitz-TR; but we'd need to create an account for you
22:52 schestowitz-TR; with ssh keys
22:53 schestowitz-TR; I've just found some typos, which I corrected
22:53 XFaCE; ssh keys... very good
22:53 XFaCE; no half measures
22:53 schestowitz-TR; right
22:53 schestowitz-TR; no "enter password
22:53 XFaCE; you mean like that Intel MEI bug? ^_^
22:53 MinceR; https://hugelolcdn.com/i/752761.jpg
22:53 Alternative link; Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/752761.jpg
22:53 TR News; #Fedora (Re)Starts Discussing Plan to Delete GitHub (Quit Microsoft Dependence) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/09/fedora-delete-github/
22:54 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: Intel IS a bug
22:54 schestowitz-TR; it's even in the same
22:54 schestowitz-TR; intel agencies etc
22:54 XFaCE; *name
22:54 schestowitz-TR; yes
22:54 schestowitz-TR; *agencies
22:54 XFaCE; you spelled that right O_o
22:54 schestowitz-TR; oh, I did
22:54 schestowitz-TR; oops
22:55 schestowitz-TR; I must have been lucky
22:56 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=forbes&ns0=1&fulltext=Search
22:56 TR Bot; Search results - Techrights
22:56 schestowitz; all of those pages are in gemini:// now
22:56 schestowitz; as well
23:00 TR News; Piss off, #clownflare ... you obstruct me from accessing pages in a totally legit fashion. No, I DO NOT have #javascript in my client (even if I had it, I'd not run your malicious code) and the site I'm accessing does NOT use JavaScript. #www = #spamfarm #cloudflare
23:02 TR News; #FSF Fall Bulletin: package management, e-books, #AGPL , and more https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/fall-bulletin-package-management-e-books-agpl-and-more
23:02 TR Bot; Fall Bulletin: package management, e-books, AGPL, and more Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
23:03 TR News; #mozilla 2005: geeks! Web! Mozilla 2021: SHOPPING!!! https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/my-best-holiday-shopping-tip-mozilla/ see http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/
23:03 Alternative link; Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/my-best-holiday-shopping-tip-mozilla/
23:03 TR Bot; My best holiday shopping tip? Mozilla
23:03 TR Bot; Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights
23:04 TR News; #mozilla CEO earns a NICE new home every month of work. About a quarter million dollars a month, mostly from #pentagon contractor #gulag ... THAT'S SocialJustice(TM) for ya! http://techrights.org/wiki/Mozilla
23:04 TR Bot; Mozilla - Techrights
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23:05 TR News; #socialcontrolmedia reduced to little but #propaganda platform on sale https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/rohingya-refugees-file-150-billion-lawsuit-against-facebook-for-alleged-content-moderation-malpractices see for example http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
23:05 TR Bot;
23:05 TR Bot; Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
23:06 TR News; Use of Facial Recognition Technologies on a steep rise in #India https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/use-of-facial-recognition-technologies-on-a-steep-rise-in-india #lumendatabase | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
23:06 TR Bot;
23:06 TR Bot; Social Control Media Posts
23:07 TR News; When #india dicktator #modi issues a new bill it should be capitalised, Bill, because that's who he possibly passes it for. #patents #gmo #billgates
23:09 TR News; Don't say "social media"; it's antisocial and NOT media. Adding the word "control" as a sandwich helps clarify the true purpose: #socialControlMedia
23:09 TR News; #twitter keeps elucidating who its true bosses are. http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #socialControlMedia
23:10 TR News; Mozilla 2005: development. 2010: storytelling. 2015: marketing. 2020: spyware. #firefox #www #sellout
23:12 TR News; I hope #gulag Inc. pays you market value (for the skills and qualification) instead of just exploiting you (as if often does) https://ajadi-abiola.github.io/blog/Outreachy-Get-to-know-me! http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/ #deletegithub
23:12 TR Bot; ( status 404 @ https://ajadi-abiola.github.io/blog/Outreachy-Get-to-know-me )
23:12 TR Bot; Outreachy as Hush Money (Bribe) From Monopolies | Techrights
23:13 TR News; #google #bribes https://businessrecord.com/Content/Default/All-Latest-News/Article/Two-outreach-organizations-receive-50-000-career-certificates-from-Google/-3/248/96228 #gulag learned from #microsoft
23:13 TR Bot; Two outreach organizations receive $50,000, career certificates from Google - Business Record
23:14 TR News; #wayland 1.20.0 https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2021-December/042064.html #linux #graphics
23:14 TR Bot; [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.20.0
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23:18 TR News; ..."happy stories" instead of real news https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/breaking-father-carrying-daughter-school-transport-strike-ghana-viral-kenneth-awotwe-darko-ubuntu-new-car/
23:18 Alternative link; Cloudflare: thesouthafrican.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thesouthafrican.com/lifestyle/breaking-father-carrying-daughter-school-transport-strike-ghana-viral-kenneth-awotwe-darko-ubuntu-new-car/
23:18 TR Bot; Dad who carried daughter to school during transport strike, gets new car
23:20 TR News; New video of Zorin OS 16 Lite http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158878#comment-32031
23:20 TR Bot; Zorin OS 16 Celebrates More Than 1 Million Downloads with Lite Edition | Tux Machines
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23:22 TR News; #Graphics : #Wayland Release, Mesa, and Some Hacking Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158941 #Linux #TuxMachines
23:22 TR Bot; Graphics: Wayland Release, Mesa, and Some Hacking | Tux Machines
23:22 *Timur (~tdemin@q4ekxw9w3cfd2.irc) has joined #techrights
23:24 TR News; How much longer can #tor reconcile building its browsing tool on top of #gulag -funded #spyware called #firefox h https://www.itsfoss.net/tor-browser-11-0-2-released-tor-site-blocking-extension-possible-attacks-on-tor/
23:24 Alternative link; Cloudflare: itsfoss.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itsfoss.net/tor-browser-11-0-2-released-tor-site-blocking-extension-possible-attacks-on-tor/
23:24 TR Bot; Browser 11.0.2 released. Tor site blocking extension. Possible attacks on Tor - itsfoss.net
23:28 TR News; Could #India Be The Crucial Battleground For #OpenAccess To Scientific #Research h | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/09/could-india-be-the-crucial-battleground-for-open-access-to-scientific-research/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/09/#latest
23:28 TR Bot; India Be The Crucial Battleground For Open Access To Scientific Research? | Hackaday
23:29 XFaCE; schestowitz: where shall I plop the revised version?
23:29 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR:
23:29 TR News; More on Tor and Mozilla celebrating shopping culture http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158918#comment-32032
23:29 TR Bot; Mozilla/Web: litebrowser, Mozillas New Chief People Officer, and Tor Browser 11.0.2 | Tux Machines
23:29 schestowitz-TR; XFaCE: oh, you edited it?
23:30 schestowitz-TR; I thought you would point out typos and such
23:30 XFaCE; yeah, copied in vim
23:30 XFaCE; Did a bunch of rewording
23:30 schestowitz-TR; ah
23:30 XFaCE; like old times
23:30 schestowitz-TR; do you still have your wiki login?
23:31 XFaCE; at the moment no
23:31 XFaCE; I was going to put in an pastebin site or something
23:31 schestowitz-TR; that would work too
23:31 XFaCE; [LEGAL]: All my edits are licensed under the WTFPL 2.0
23:32 XFaCE; :)
23:32 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: do you have a recommendation for a site? I seem to recall ncrypt.it but it's either worse now or I'm going to the wrong URL
23:33 schestowitz-TR; I rarely use those, so not sure what to suggest
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23:35 XFaCE; Crap, where's prurigro when you need him
23:36 TR News; "Motorola, Apple, Samsung, and now even Fairphone 4: NO 3.5mm headphone jack!!!" The "smart" phones just participate in #PlannedObsolescence and soon more #DRM https://dwaves.de/2021/12/09/smart-phones-without-headphone-3-5mm-jack-why-this-sucks-and-wireless-headphones-with-tiny-batteries-make-no-sense-in-general-apples-lack-of-innovation-the-microsoft-recycling-catastrophe/
23:36 TR Bot; Smart Phones without headphone 3.5mm jack why this sucks and wireless headphones with tiny batteries make no sense (in general) Apples lack of innovation the Microsoft recycling catastrophe Corona shows: patents suck and kill people (part of the problem) | dwaves.de
23:36 MinceR; (cat) https://i.imgur.com/8P6Ta68.jpeg
23:36 Alternative link; Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/8P6Ta68.jpeg
23:42 XFaCE; schestowitz-TR: I dm'd your schestowitz account
23:43 TR News; My Recommendations for the Most Secure Librem 14 Configuration http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158859#comment-32033
23:43 TR Bot; Why The Librem 14 with QubesOS Exceeded My Expectations | Tux Machines
23:44 TR News; How much does a Linux desktop OS cost? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158942 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:44 TR Bot; How much does a Linux desktop OS cost? | Tux Machines
23:44 XFaCE; in RE: qubesos... insert Theo De Raadt quote about the fallacy of virutalization security
23:46 schestowitz; lovely!
23:46 XFaCE; in regards to which
23:46 XFaCE; it is a lovely quote
23:46 schestowitz; XFaCE: I had finalised my post earlier, mind if I add your version alongside it?
23:47 schestowitz; XFaCE: virt makes things worse
23:47 MinceR; also insert reminder that qubesos runs systemd
23:47 schestowitz; because there are more layers for interference
23:47 MinceR; in every VM
23:47 schestowitz; it's fedoira basd iirc
23:47 MinceR; because why run just one instance of a massive NSA backdoor when you can run several?
23:47 XFaCE; MinceR: but it's containerized, that makes it ok
23:47 XFaCE; qed
23:47 MinceR; and then call it "secure", because words don't have meaning anymore
23:48 TR News; #FSF Fall Bulletin and #FSFE Interview With Vincent Lequertier Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158943 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
23:48 TR Bot; FSF Fall Bulletin and FSFE Interview With Vincent Lequertier | Tux Machines
23:49 TR News; Hans de Goede: PSA: The #linux 5.17 #kernel will require some #initrd generator changes for kms drivers https://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/25948.html
23:49 TR Bot; PSA: The 5.17 kernel will require some initrd generator changes for kms drivers: hansdegoede LiveJournal
23:49 schestowitz; XFaCE: by which name should I refer to you?
23:49 schestowitz; MinceR: right
23:49 schestowitz; it's theatre
23:49 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/worthless-security-theater-boot/
23:49 XFaCE; <schestowitz> XFaCE: I had finalised my post earlier, mind if I add your version alongside it?
23:49 TR Bot; Wintel Secure uEFI Firmware Used to Store Persistent Malware, and Security Theater Boot is Worthless | Techrights
23:49 XFaCE; not sure what you mean
23:49 XFaCE; XFaCE is fine
23:49 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2021/10/04/matthew-garrett-security-theatre/
23:49 TR Bot; Matthew Garretts Twitter Log Shows Exactly Why We Need to Give Security Theater the Boot | Techrights
23:49 schestowitz; XFaCE: OK
23:49 schestowitz; hand on
23:49 schestowitz; *hang
23:50 XFaCE; schestowitz: I have Matthew Garrett's rebuttal
23:50 XFaCE; "Fart fart fart"
23:53 psydroid2; that's simply amazing
23:53 psydroid2; hang on, we're going to have a hands-on session very soon
23:54 XFaCE; what?
23:54 psydroid2; I thought we were going to see a reBUTTal?
23:55 XFaCE; ba-dum-tsh
23:56 schestowitz; XFaCE: I have added your full version
23:56 schestowitz; as we made conflicting edits
23:56 schestowitz; and sort of miscommunicated how we'd edit
23:57 schestowitz; XFaCE: your version is a lot better than mine
23:57 schestowitz; we needed better tools for collaborative editing which involves broad rephrasing
23:58 XFaCE; probably still could revise it a bit more... also have a bit of sinus pain so I'm not firing on all editing cylinders
23:58 schestowitz; thanks a lot for your effort, much appreciated
23:58 XFaCE; schestowitz: Why I think Git + Groff or whatever is more the Luke Smith approach... simpler tools, simpler diffs, etc.
23:58 schestowitz; I'll post Daily Links in a few mins
23:59 XFaCE; No excessive web editors and what not, and more clear edit history
23:59 schestowitz; etherpad was nice
23:59 schestowitz; it was killed off pretty much
23:59 schestowitz; it 'had' to be killed
23:59 schestowitz; too competitive
23:59 schestowitz; I last tried it a year or two ago
23:59 schestowitz; FFII used to use it
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