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03:29 schestowitz; Following My Complaint, Protocols and Providers in the NHS Are Changed http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/08/yorkshire-health-solutions-changes/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/08/yorkshire-health-solutions-changes/

03:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com Blog Archive Following My Complaint, Protocols and Providers in the NHS Are Changed

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08:41 Techrights-sec; Good work!

08:41 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/

http://techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, December 07, 2021 | Techrights

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08:50 schestowitz-TR; 1. I was expecting bugs somewhere in the irc stuff, but have found no bugs so far, tested for 20 mins all in all

08:50 schestowitz-TR; since 2:30am

08:50 schestowitz-TR; 2/ nhs and epo complaints are good news

08:52 Techrights-sec; 2: yes very good progress

08:52 Techrights-sec; 1: the translation is still brittle, it'd be nice to do more upstream and then have scripts convert to HTML and

08:52 Techrights-sec; Gemini at the same time rather than

08:52 Techrights-sec; converting logs to html and from there to Gemini

08:52 schestowitz-TR; I reckon python3 might not be compatible, but we can always fall back onto 2.x

08:53 Techrights-sec; python2 is deprecated since long ago

08:53 schestowitz-TR; ack

08:53 schestowitz-TR; I will do some more testing later, I have a list

08:57 Techrights-sec; ack

08:57 schestowitz-TR; I got the police files on Graveley

08:57 schestowitz-TR; and some dirt on Friedman

08:57 Techrights-sec; Interesting, if they are authentic


9 AM, Dec 8

09:46 Techrights-sec; +1

09:46 Techrights-sec; page 2 of the warrant looks empty

09:46 Techrights-sec; then again it is marked "unofficial"

09:47 schestowitz-TR; wait, there is MOIRE


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10:35 Techrights-sec; back in a few hours

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11:16 schestowitz; partly to self: tomorrow's test 3:30am in irc, see notes below (check in morning, follow links to gmi in blog post); should we also include gmi link to bulletin? gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/index.gmi would inherit the link if it is included in the www post.

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/index.gmi

11:19 schestowitz; leah is looking into gemini again, I think it would help if posts like gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/index.gmi included a gemini link for the bulletin too, as at the very least it brings us closer to the point of saying, we have web/gemini parity

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/08/irc-log-071221/index.gmi

11:19 leah; i mean

11:19 leah; yeah

11:24 schestowitz; schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/

11:24 schestowitz; http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/

11:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People

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11:52 schestowitz-TR; I have today (8:44) push showing a bug fixed, so am copying to main file, we need to watch closely the next few

11:52 schestowitz-TR; days in case

11:52 schestowitz-TR; something breaks quietly

11:52 schestowitz-TR; better to catch bugs early than late

11:52 schestowitz-TR; I will now push some changes for the IRC bot


noon, Dec 8

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12:23 schestowitz; "Techrights deals with a variety of issues that affect our everyday computing. It works by addressing particular subjects that need to be better understood and thus resolved."

12:23 schestowitz; https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/techrights

↺ https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/techrights

12:23 Alternative link; Cloudflare: muckrack.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/techrights

↺ https://web.archive.org/web/https://muckrack.com/media-outlet/techrights

12:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-muckrack.com | Techrights.org: Contact Information, Journalists, and Overview | Muck Rack

12:23 schestowitz; "Trade/B2B, Consumer"???

12:44 schestowitz-TR; pushed to IRC the irc bot changes, which I dry-tested link by link to lower chances of bugs

12:45 Techrights-sec; back

12:45 Techrights-sec; yes, I've been checking the published Gemtext and looking for oddnesses and miakes

12:45 Techrights-sec; ack

12:55 schestowitz-TR; I was pleasantly surprised by how fewe bugs and defects in 'deploymemnt' we had

12:55 schestowitz-TR; because I had anticipated a lot more trouble, though it all worked rather smoothly

12:55 schestowitz-TR; and now it's all automated for yearsb to come

12:57 Techrights-sec; hopefully. too much of it relies on scraping and scraping is brittle. it

12:57 Techrights-sec; does not adapt to changes in the layout of the source, if they are outside

12:57 Techrights-sec; certain parameters

12:57 schestowitz-TR; if or when changes are introduced, the code can be tweaked a bit

12:57 schestowitz-TR; btw, meduza is still broken, this was discsused in main irc channel yesterday

12:59 schestowitz-TR; i keep getting tons of new info from github; sources and moles and friends of friends can do more damage than "CIEgate"

12:59 schestowitz-TR; *ICEgate


1 PM, Dec 8

13:01 Techrights-sec; yes, it's too bad they have not fixed their feeds

13:01 Techrights-sec; M$ did a lot of damage to FOSS with the GitHub acquisition, that was one of

13:01 Techrights-sec; their goals. Those close enough to the epicenter can get shocked out of the

13:01 Techrights-sec; foolish projection that M$ had improved or changed in any way for the better.

13:02 Techrights-sec; nextcloud et al filed a complaint

13:02 Techrights-sec; backed even by some microsoft apologists

13:04 Techrights-sec; it'll be interesting if NextCloud gets enough traction to make a case. Many

13:04 Techrights-sec; judges seem to worship bill and or M$ and so might squash it before it starts.

13:04 Techrights-sec; See how the judges were angry at Schrems for daring to question Facebook.

13:04 Techrights-sec; M$ is far worse and far more established.

13:05 schestowitz-TR; same for epo which the eu is protecting

13:05 schestowitz-TR; and the dutch and german states too!!!

13:08 Techrights-sec; germany seems to be pushing epo the most, and that looks like mostly from

13:08 Techrights-sec; conflicrs of interest. how much money does the german government skim

13:08 Techrights-sec; off of the epo?

13:08 schestowitz-TR; law firms, court fees, 7000 high earners spending on homes etc.

13:11 Techrights-sec; I wonder if there is more direct profit from them.

13:11 schestowitz-TR; nations, through NPO 'cooperation', receive bribes

13:13 schestowitz-TR; call it a cartel if you must, or a CROSS-border class warfare thing, with liars/lawyers an d corporastions

13:13 Techrights-sec; corruption seems high in many EU countries, despite the ability to fill

13:13 Techrights-sec; out forms saying the opposite

13:13 schestowitz-TR; covering epo means we show the crimes spilling over to other institutions, e.g. wipo, euipo, and NPOs

13:14 Techrights-sec; yep, and the general graft that people witness or participate in but deny

13:15 schestowitz-TR; btw, re TM

13:15 schestowitz-TR; I was going to tell you yesterday

13:15 schestowitz-TR; the beat we found most effective is

13:15 schestowitz-TR; rianne takes the lead

13:15 schestowitz-TR; with key stories

13:15 schestowitz-TR; marius does very fast reporting and adds his stories asap

13:15 schestowitz-TR; I am just the pickup guy, assembling the leftovers and picking up missing bits here and there

13:16 schestowitz-TR; of course that generally changes and changed over time

13:16 schestowitz-TR; as we findn btter ways to run it thinly

13:16 schestowitz-TR; and if rianne works i take over TM, and vice versa, same for sleep cycles, so we're rarely behind. marius also covers for us when on holiday

13:17 schestowitz-TR; TMS is just as important as TR, but DIFFERENT

13:27 Techrights-sec; ack

13:27 Techrights-sec; Excellent coverage


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15:19 schestowitz-TR; I think we can do to microsoft sand github what we do to EPO

15:21 Techrights-sec; GitHub is damaged beyond redemption and would be better shut down. It was

15:21 Techrights-sec; always proprietary anyway. There are many other better options. The two

15:21 Techrights-sec; things it had going were heavy marketing and integration with a bug tracker.

15:21 Techrights-sec; It's more social control media then development software at this point.

15:21 Techrights-sec; Again, it comes down to a question of control.

15:21 Techrights-sec; ack

15:21 schestowitz-TR; it's like a big coke vending machine

15:21 schestowitz-TR; we just need to knock it back and forth a few times

15:21 schestowitz-TR; then it will fall over

15:23 schestowitz-TR; transcoding 30-min video, calling for more sources

15:32 Techrights-sec; there might be quite a few willing to speak, m$ burned a lot of people in

15:32 Techrights-sec; the buyout

15:32 Techrights-sec; not just through the result but also the process

15:34 schestowitz-TR; mumble can come in handy

15:35 schestowitz-TR; but i suppose when used as "app" on some OSes its privacy is at risk

15:36 Techrights-sec; that too

15:36 Techrights-sec; It gives M$ a complete overview of all project activity for projects still in

15:36 Techrights-sec; GitHUb

15:36 schestowitz-TR; 'BI'

15:37 Techrights-sec; Regular intel which they presumably use themselves to further their agenda

15:37 Techrights-sec; and which they also sell to various governments to know where and how to

15:37 Techrights-sec; sabotage FOSS with the least effort and resources.

15:38 schestowitz-TR; it is a lot more than just intel (visibility) as they can censor, ban, manipulate etc./

15:38 schestowitz-TR; --- a point we MUST regularly raise to remind people

15:38 schestowitz-TR; it happened before -- it's a power they abuse

15:40 Techrights-sec; yep, good point

15:40 Techrights-sec; A big problem there is that most people don't accept or observe facts, and

15:40 Techrights-sec; go with what they /wish/ was true instead.

15:40 schestowitz-TR; ok, so we persist and persist

15:40 schestowitz-TR; I'm still young enought to fight on and my temper is OK, so I don't mind a few concessions here and there

15:41 schestowitz-TR; zoobab seems to be taking it a lot harder and loses morale quickly


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